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Just wait to hear. We're recording.

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» You're good, Mr. Chair.
>> Thank you, sir.

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» Mr. Chairman, you ready to rock and
roll?

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» Yeah, really is.
>> Commissioner Gilman, you good to go?

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[clears throat]
>> All right, Austin.

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» Yeah.
>> Brian, do you have any audio issues or

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are you good?
>> I have no audio issues. Just issues

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today so I can hear and see and and
we're able to proceed.

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» All right. Thank you. Good [snorts]
morning everyone.

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Today is September 1st somehow 2026.
We have a quorum present. Commissioner

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Gilman's on Zoom today and uh we're
going to go and call this meeting to

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order. It is 10:05 a.m. Sorry for the
late start. On to item number two on

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today's agenda is to convene as a story
county board of county commissioners

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bringing us item number three which is
the pledge of allegiance. If you can all

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stand and join me.

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» I pledge algiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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On to item number four on today's agenda
is public comment. Public comment is

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welcomed at the beginning and end of
each meeting. These comments should be

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limited to matters not on today's
calendar agenda. Uh public comment is

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again welcomed after each item on the
agenda and those comments should be

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limited to the agenda's topic. As a
reminder, public comment is limited to

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three minutes per individual. With that
said, is there any public comment in the

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courtroom today?

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» Good morning. Sarah starts for the
record. Um Tim Kiniorski. Perfect. Uh at

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the county's request has come in to get
come in to give an update on the

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lighting the V project that was awarded
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fiscal year 2425. And as this is at the
county's request, I also request that

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the commission to please use their
discretion as allowed if Tim goes over

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on his allotted time. Thank you.
>> Thank you.

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» Good morning everyone. My name is Tim
Kjorski and I have been uh working on

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the project uh to light the V uh light
the V back up from from where it was uh

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years ago. I don't even know when it was
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I want to give you a status update on uh
what is going on up there. In July, we

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had a team of eight individuals and
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we were able to get the new lights
spread out. Uh we're also stringing new

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uh cable electrical basically flexible
conduit up there. What was up there

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before was extension cords and they had
weathered uh very poorly. they're

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actually quite the fire risk and quite
honestly being in the the power industry

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myself uh I am very concerned about the
issues surrounding uh power and

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possibility of wildfire and stuff like
that. So the work that we're doing up

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there to to get new electricity spread
out up there um is such that it won't

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start a fire. The flexible conduit
should be able to contain the wiring and

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keep it uh from the sun and keep it from
degrading. Excuse [clears throat] me.

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So, as the status is right now, the
perimeter lights around the edge of the

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V all the way around about 420 ft of uh
lighting has been installed. It is

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suspended above the the ground level by
about a foot. So, we should be able to

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see that light uh once the uh once power
is restored up there uh whether there's

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snow or not. A second round of uh work
that is going to occur and and it's

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pretty much the heavier push is a a
bunch of uh fill lighting that's going

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to be suspended about 4t above the
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where it comes down and around
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over the top of that where I'm at right
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installed as I had said and uh that is
ready to go. What issue I discovered

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after all of that and and totally
anticipated having the lights lit up by

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now. Uh but uh even though I was doing a
lot of uh testing of the main cable that

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runs from the service transformer down
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the base of the V u I tested that cable
with inferial method methods. In other

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words, I was not testing the cable
energized because I didn't want to

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energize it until I had a good feeling
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I have repaired a couple of brakes on it
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Um, but when we went to power the lights
on that next weekend, there was no power

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at the top at all. And so I had to go
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actually at the base of the pole.
Everything is good down there. And so

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what I'm finding right now is that
somewhere along that 1,200 ft run of of

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wire, there is at least one or more
breaks uh in the wire. So I still have

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to find those. Once I find them, uh I
can repair them and then I will be able

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to get uh the power actually turned on
up at the top and safely. So and safety

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is really my biggest con
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don't want to have any issues going up
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» All right. Thank you. Do you have a time
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think?
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have thought that the first half of it
would have been complete and we would

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have been starting the second half
already. Um it it's quite the physical

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challenge to get up to the to the top of
the hill. I mean, not just for me. I'm

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I'm 61 years old. I'm somewhat fit. I'm
not an athlete. And so it takes me a

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good hour and 15 to 20 minutes just to
get up to the the base of the V. My

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anticipation is I would like to have
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winter weather sets in. I'd like to have
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frame. Uh issues for me. I am
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myself. There isn't a lot of people who
can can do this in town unless we have,

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you know, electricians who are willing
to help. Um, I haven't reached out for

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anything like that, but my goal would be
now sometime in the November time frame

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before the winters get there, we can get
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lighting installed. F first row of
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that outline is on, then we're we're in
the golden zone. the the second batch of

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of lighting is going to be physically
challenging to carry all of the the tea

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stakes, tea stake pounder, couple of
boxes of of the additional lights and

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and some other parts and pieces up to
the top of the hill. Uh for that

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particular effort, I'll be doing another
community call to get uh volunteers to

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head back up the hill. Um, and we will
be pounding in I I think we have in the

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neighborhood of of 20 plus tea stakes
that have to be pounded somehow in into

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that rocky surface area. So, it's going
to be a challenge to get it up there,

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but once it's done, I think it's going
to look really good. And and my vision

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for it is one day when I'm coming back
from a business meeting on a night

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flight and I'm coming into Reno to land,
I want to see that V from, you know, 50

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miles away lit up in all its glory.
>> Sounds good. Thank you. Um, this is a

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little out of context, but do you have
any questions for him?

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» No, I don't. Do Commissioner, do you
want to let him borrow your helicopter

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for that move when
>> Still waiting for delivery?

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» Okay.
>> That shows up, you can have access.

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» Thank you, sir.
>> Thanks a lot. Appreciate you coming in.

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Is there any other public comment today?
All right. Uh, let's move right along to

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item number five, discussion for
possible action, consideration and

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possible approval of the agenda for the
September 1st, 2026 meeting. County

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manager, are there any changes to the
agenda today?

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» Uh, we have two we're going to
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uh consent item 73
to the 9:15 meeting. That is a stipen

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policy. So it's step seven Roman numeral
three to the 9:15 meeting. And the

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second one is that number 26 which is
our BDR that we move it up to follow

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number 15.
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» that's it.
>> Uh sorry, what was the BDR last one?

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» Number 26. Yeah, to have it follow
number 15. I think it'll land right

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before the highway board.
>> All right.

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» Okay. Commissioner Gilman, do you have
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» No, thank you.
>> Vice Chairman Uh, no. I'm fine with

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those changes.
>> Okay. Uh, is there any public comment

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regarding the agenda today?
Not seeing any. Vice chairman, you

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prepare to make a motion?
>> Yeah. I move to approve today's agenda

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with the noted changes.
>> Second.

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» All right. There's a motion and a
second. All those in favor signify by

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saying I.
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» I.
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» Motion passes unanimously.
>> Moving right along to item number six,

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which is discussion for possible action.
consideration and possible approval of

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the minutes from the July 21st, 2026
meeting. Uh, Commissioner Gilman, do you

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have any questions or comments on those
minutes?

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» No.
>> Vice Chairman?

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» No. Thanks.
>> How about public comment?

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» Not seeing any. Vice Chairman, you
prepare to make a motion?

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» Yeah. I move to approve the minutes from
our July 21st, 2026 meeting as

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presented.
>> Second.

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» All right. There's a motion and a
second. All those in favor signify by

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saying I. I.
>> I. Hi.

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» Motion passes unanimously. On to item
number seven is today's consent agenda.

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Commissioner Gilman, do you have any
questions or comments about the consent

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agenda?
>> None. Thank you.

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» Vice Chairman?
>> Uh, no. Thanks.

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» How about public comment on the consent
agenda?

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» Not seeing any. Vice Chairman, you
prepared to make a motion?

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» I am. I move to approve today's consent
agenda as presented. And just for

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clarity on the record, we continue to
item 73 to a future meeting.

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Second.
>> All right, there's a motion and a

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second. All those in favor signify by
saying I.

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» I.
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» Motion passes unanimously.
On to item number eight. This is

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discussion for possible action
consideration and possible approval of

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resolution number 26-838
recognizing and commending a Story

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County employee who served 15 years of
service to the county.

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Good morning, commissioners.
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» Brandy Lopez. For the record, this
recognition is especially meaningful as

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we honor an employee who has reached an
outstanding milestone in 15 years of

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dedicated service to Story County. 15
years of public service is a remarkable

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accomplishment and reflects his
sustained commitment to serving our

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community [snorts] with professionalism,
integrity, and dedication. Over the

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years, this employee has made lasting
contributions to the county through his

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hard work, experience, and unwavering
commitment to excellence. I would like

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to express our sincere appreciation for
15 years of faithful service, and the

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positive impact you have made on our
colleagues, our organization, and the

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citizens we serve. It's my honor to
present this resolution of appreciation

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recognizing Tim Shotchshire for 15 years
of dedicated service to Story County.

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Congratulations and thank you for your
continued commitment to public service.

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» Thank you, Tim. Is he getting a
>> All right. Uh, Commissioner Gilman, do

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you have any questions or comments?
>> Thank you for your service to the

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county,
>> Vice Chairman.

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» Yeah, I was saying thank you. Yeah, to
sound like an echo chamber in here.

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Thank you very much. Um, you know, uh,
it's it's amazing to see folks stick

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around that long with Story County. I
think that speaks to the the culture

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that we have here. I hope. Um, but
appreciate you and and everybody else

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that's put in their time. So, thank you.
Um, is there any public comment today?

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All right. Not seeing any public
comment. Brandy, do you want to read the

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resolution?
Did you?

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» I never do.
>> You never do.

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» Okay. Yeah. Vice Chairman, you want to
read it?

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» Yeah. A resolution honoring 15 years of
service to Story County. Whereas the

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aforementioned member of the Story
County team has provided 15 years of

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service to the community of Story
County. Whereas the aforementioned is

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dedicated to his job and duties to the
community of Story County. And whereas

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the aforementioned is gracious and
giving of his time and expertise.

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Therefore, let it be known to all that
the board of county commissioners of

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Story County do hereby commend and honor
the aforementioned member of the Story

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County team for dedication and service
to the people of Story County, Nevada,

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this first day of September, 2026.
And that's for Mr. Timothy Shropshire.

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» Fantastic. Do you want to do the motion
now?

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» Sure. Um I, Commissioner Mitchell, move
to approve resolution number 26-838

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recognizing and commending a Story
County employee who has served 15 years

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of service to the county.
Second.

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» There's a motion and a second. All those
in favor signify by saying I.

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» I.
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» Motion passes unanimously. Thank you.
TIM, [applause]

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» you going to come on up?

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Sorry, it feels like this is the first
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» You can just
>> You can take a picture up here if you

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want.

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You're good.

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» Thank you.
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» All right.
Um, moving right along to item number

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nine. this discussion only. No action,
no public comment will be taken. These

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are committee and staff reports. And as
we always do, we'll kick things off at

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the sheriff's office today.

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» Good morning, Lieutenant Brook for the
record. Uh quick update. Uh, Sheriff

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Colona is currently attending a traffic
meeting with Sheriff Balum of Wash

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County, Chief Crawford of Sparks Police
regarding the traffic issues on IED, uh,

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which is why he is not here today. A
quick update on posted the stats from

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August on our social media today. Um, it
surpassed our June stats as our highest

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arrest we've ever had in a month at 82.
We had 45 misdemeanor arrests, 37 felony

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arrests, 957 calls for service, 963
traffic stops with 311 citations. So

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very busy. And then just a quick note,
um, Burning Man is going on and we have

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had a lot of drug arrests related to
that coming through the TRRI area. In

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the last three days alone, we've had
nine just the drug related arrests come

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out of TRRI. uh most of them being
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So very busy week for us. Um and that's
all I have for you today.

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» Thank you for the update.
>> Thank you.

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» Commissioner Gilman, do you have any
questions or comments?

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» Keep up the great work. Thank you.
>> Thank you,

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» Vice Chairman. Yeah, I appreciate that.
And um have something going on tonight,

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don't we?
>> Yeah, there is sheriff's night out

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tonight 5 to 8:00 p.m. Miners Park. So
hopefully you guys are all there.

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» Absolutely. Good.
>> It'll be a little cold, so bring a

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jacket.
>> All right. Thank you again for the

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update.
>> You're welcome.

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» All right. Uh moving right along to the
fire protection district.

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» Thank you, Chief. Public works.
>> All right.

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I only see one project manager in today.
Kevin, you have anything for us?

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» I have a short one for you all.
>> All right.

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Kevin Salstrom for the record. Uh Travis
Osterhout, our newest project manager,

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was going to join us this morning. He
got called away at the last minute to

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take some tours with our emergency
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his, which is basically just a list of
things he's working on in case there's

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any questions. Uh he's been doing quite
a bit of work with Kathy on the TRRI

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Center drainage study. I've been working
with them on Mark Twain's drainage

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master plan as well as Gold Hill
drainage master plan and Virginia City

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drainage master plans trying to help
coordinate and keep those wheels

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greased. Uh he's also been working on
the Long Valley Creek flood master flood

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hazard mitigation plan which of course
was put together by Jub about two years

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ago and after recent events they've done
some re-evaluation and he's been trying

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to help coordinate with her how to make
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things out there. He's also been working
with Dowel on our Silver City water

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line, our siphon lines. Those are kind
of moving slowly through the really

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slowly through the permitting processes.
Uh and the more pressing one is the Gold

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Hill sewer collection system that is
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trying to move through those various
permits. We're hoping to get those to

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bid this winter and be able to start
next spring after whatever the uh spring

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weather or winter weather brings us, but
that one's still in process.

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As far as my own reports, we are still
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substation and we actually have a
meeting this afternoon with sheriff's

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department to go through a third
revision of plans for that. We're still

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planning to get that bid this winter and
get that built out uh for occupancy next

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summer. Pipers, uh by the time you guys
get out of here, hopefully you'll see

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new sets of windows in there. They're
working on them right now, replacing

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those and get the last few of them done
over the next few weeks and hoping to

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have that whole window and door
replacement project done uh by the end

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of September if uh mother nature
cooperates. And that of course is the

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southside and east side doors or
southside windows and all of the

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front-facing doors. We have another
project that Sarah's been working on

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that will hopefully fund more of those
in the spring, but we're still working

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through that with the shipo. And of
course, the last part, the the big

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elephant in here is the justice center.
We do have a contract that we are

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working through. Uh trying to get our
last few bits of staff review done and

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hopefully have it to you guys beginning
of October. If all goes well, we can get

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that kicked off. They are um Hayer AE
architectural engineering is anxious to

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get started and looking to be here a few
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we're good to go.
>> All right. Thank you for that update.

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Commissioner Gilman, do you have any
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» No.
>> All right. Vice Chairman,

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» no. Appreciate the update. Thank you.
>> All right. Appreciate it. Thank you.

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» Uh, how about business development?

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» Good morning, Laura Mather for the
record. So, I wanted to give an update

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today on my zip code endeavors.
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recently staff from Senator Cortez
Masto's office in Washington DC met with

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the United States Postal Service in
Washington DC on our behalf, gave them

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an a summary of what Story County is
looking for, what our goal is through

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this process. Um, and then they came
back and gave me some further direction

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on how to proceed. So, the United States
Postal Service has a a format in which

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they request um submissions to to be in.
So, I basically took my two-page report

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that I wrote a couple months ago for
Congressman Amday's office and I turned

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it into a 10-page report. So, [laughter]
I have the report. It's ready to go. Um

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with the approval of this board, I've
reached out to the surrounding counties

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and cities for letters of of support.
I've caught a great response. Wo county

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sparks, the city of Fernley, um, Lion
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responded and provided letters of
support. So, as I gather additional

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letters, I will then submit all of that
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them to then formally submit that
request for us. And again, that's to

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expand our zip codes so that we get
surrounding county zip codes out of

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Story County.
Um, recently somebody asked me what my

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goal is when county staff goes to
Washington DC. My response to them was

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my goal when I go there is that they
know who we are, what we do, and why we

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are important. And I think over the past
five years that we've been going, we

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have accomplished that because we now
have a senator's key staff person in

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Washington DC go to the United States
Postal Service for us there on our

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behalf. And I think that really shows
the amazing relationship that we've been

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able to develop with both of the
senators and the congressmen. And we

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will continue to work on that. And
that's the end of my report.

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» All right. Thank you for that report,
Laura.

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Commissioner Gilman, do you have any
questions or comments?

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» None.
>> Vice Chairman,

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» no. Thank you.
>> All right. Thank you again.

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» Uh, how about our grants manager?
>> Okay. Uh, admin officer.

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Emergency management.

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» Morning. Adam Wilson, director of
emergency management. For the record,

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I'll try and be quick because we also
have an agenda item later. Uh, as Kevin

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alluded to, we have some staff with
emergency management right now. We have

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FEMA's earthquake survey team in town
from they're from all across the

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country. They're going to be evaluating
10 facilities in Virginia City that are

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critical infrastructure schools and
buildings for government use for

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earthquake mitigation and then we'll get
that final report from them in a few

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months once it goes through the
engineering and FEMA review. So, we're

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very excited to get that done. Uh, in
regards to earthquakes, our exercise

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plan is complete as of yesterday for the
Virginia City Goldill exercise. Again,

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that is a no notice one. So, that's
about all the information we're going to

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give out until the emergency alert comes
out. It will be in October. Uh, and

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that's going to be a full-scale exercise
where we actually evacuate residents and

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have county staff participate in an
exercise for earthquakes. Our evacuation

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plan update is in progress. We have all
the data and maps now from our vendor

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for the evacuation study. We're waiting
on two new software components that we

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were approved for in this year's budget
to get through the onboarding process.

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Once we get that software on, we'll run
all this data and maps through that and

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then have a finalized product ready by
the end of the year. Uh we're supporting

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Lion County September 19th and 20th with
our road safety barricades for their

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special event. Uh we don't have a
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So we were able to take those down there
and we'll be able to help them out with

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their event. The 2627 integrated
preparedness plan. That's one that uh

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state EM requires us to complete. That
one is done and has been submitted to

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the state. that goes over what plans
we're updating, what exercises we have

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planned, what trainings we have planned
within EM for that fiscal season. And

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then finally, our mobile EOC, we took it
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That's a local Virginia or Story County,
couple of gents run that company. So, we

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were very happy that their big came in,
Lois, and we were able to support local

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and got the decals put on the trailer
and it looks amazing. If you want to see

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it, it's written out by the jail. And
then we're just waiting on the grant

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from FEMA to finish out the interior
with all the tech stuff. And that is all

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I have.
>> All right. Thank you for that update,

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Adam. Commissioner Gman, do you have any
questions or comments?

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» All right. Vice Chairman.
>> No. Thanks.

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» All right. Appreciate it.
>> Um, don't see the ACTC here.

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» Controllers office.
>> Nothing at this time. Thank you.

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Planning Department.
>> Nothing right now.

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» All right. Health and Community
Services.

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» Good morning. Stacy Gilbert for the
record. Um, as Lieutenant Bmont said,

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Sheriff's Night Out is tonight in Miners
Park, Virginia City, 5 to 8. Um, we'll

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have hot dogs and we plan popsicles, but
it might be a little chilly for that.

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Um, this past Saturday I attended NAMI's
unmasked gala with the sheriff and we

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had uh CCI's CEO Eric Shown. He was
recognized with the leadership of the

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year award from them. We also had Deputy
Hernandez and Sergeant Kerr from the

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Story County Sheriff's Office. Uh they
won CIT officer of the year. So huge

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recognition for Story County there.
Really appreciated it. And that is all.

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» All right. Thank you for that update.
Commissioner Gilman, do you have any

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questions or comments?
>> No, thank you.

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» Vice Chairman,
>> no. Thank you.

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» All right. Thanks again for that news.
>> How about the recorder's office?

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» All right. It

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comes James De County IT director. Uh,
two quick updates. We have the outdoor

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camera project completed at the north
bathrooms. So, uh, those have been up

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and running about a week now. Jason,
where's Vicki at? Public works has

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control over those. So, we had a little
problem with vandalism and people

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leaving trash. So, that hopefully that
helps clean that up.

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» Outside the bathrooms.
>> Outside the bathrooms. Wanted to make

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sure outside cameras. Um,
second uh update is the storage rays are

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in and uh Tim and Riley are already
doing the 25 gig upgrades in the uh

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dispatch data center. So, that's all I
got.

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» All right. Thank you for that update.
Commissioner Gilman, do you have any

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questions or comments?
>> Vice Chairman.

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» No, thanks.
>> All right. Appreciate the updates.

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» How about human resources?
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Good morning, commissioners. Joseph
Starns for the record. Um, I haven't

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given an update in a while on our
department activities. So, I figured I'd

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share some uh highlights with you today.
So, our department continues to maintain

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strong workload and and a high level of
activity despite our current staffing.

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And uh with that being said, I want to
recognize our staff uh for their efforts

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and flexibility. Everyone has been
stepping up to assist where when when

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and where needed. Their dedication and
teamwork is greatly appreciated. I just

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want to share that at at group level. Um
something I have noticed with our

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resident residential activity, there
appears to be a little increase with our

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plotwalks
and that's usually an indicator that we

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have a um an increase in residential
permitting and that includes projects uh

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including generators, accessory
structures, and new new houses, SFRs.

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So that's kind of exciting. I've been
watching over the last couple months and

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uh overall um you know we've had a uh
another strong month in both permit and

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uh plan review permit issuance and plan
review. So I'll continue to monitor

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those as uh as they progress. But I
thought I'd like to share that it's kind

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of exciting to see u residential um you
know increase because we know mo the

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majority of our permitting and plan view
activity and inspections is commercial

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related. So as we go through August and
September we're entering um what is

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typically our most busiest months of the
year August and September. Historically

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activity I usually see a little taper
off in October due to weather conditions

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with a potential gradual decrease um
past the first of the year. So I'll also

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continue to monitor those trends
closely. Um the last five years or so we

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used to see a significant slowdown in
winter but um last five years with

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commercial it not so much but a little
bit. I want to congratulate one of our

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inspectors, Dan Horton, for recently uh
obtaining his reclassification to

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building Inspector 2. Dan has earned
this achievement through his continued

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work and commitment to the department,
and uh we're fortunate to have him on as

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part of our team. He worked real hard to
uh um progress from an inspector one to

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a two.
So staffing, we're making progress

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there. We have relief positions have
been posted and now the posting periods

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have closed for two out of the three
positions which is an admin assistant to

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help with our um office uh downstairs
department workload as well as our

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building official
position which will provide support to

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our inspection permitting and plan
review functions and uh a senior

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inspector position is also being
considered. So two of the three have

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been posted and closed and uh interviews
pending.

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So, I have been uh working with that
being said with we have one more

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position that we're working with HR on
um developing a job description for a

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plans examiner which Sor County has
never really had. It's always been a

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dual role with inspector/plan review or
plans examiner. So, we're working with

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HR on that. And um with that being said,
and to assist with a little bit of

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workload, I've been working towards
establishing a relationship with a

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third-party uh plan review firm. This
will provide the department with

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additional plan review capacity when
needed and help us manage the workload

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functions while we work through the
process developing this new position.

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So overall, our dep department
department continues to perform well

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under uh pressure, demanding workload,
and uh you know, we we're we're

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committed to keeping services moving
forward um for the county and the

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community. Thank you.
>> All right, great update, Joe. Thank you,

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» Commissioner Gilman. Do you have any
questions or comments?

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» Vice Chairman?
>> No. Thank you.

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» All right. Appreciate the update.
>> Thank you.

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Uh, how about the assessor's office?
>> Nothing today. Thank you.

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» All right. Uh,
Deputy DA Brown, do you have anything

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for us today?

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» Take that as a no.
>> County manager.

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I'm Austin Osborne for the record. Just
a couple things to let you know. uh not

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to steal Commissioner Carmona's thunder
hopefully uh but he myself and public

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00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:50,960
works director Jason W went to meet with
uh Tracy Larkin from INDOT and her team

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00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:55,200
yesterday for almost two hours uh
talking about actually not just general

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00:32:52,960 --> 00:33:00,480
things but specific issues uh that we're
both facing together on USA Parkway I 80

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and the 50 corridor talked a little bit
about the master plan and where Story

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County is going with commercial
residential um employment

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things like that out at the north end of
the county. And I'd say very useful. Uh

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we're looking at coordinating some
efforts along the USA Parkway and some

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00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:22,480
other development even on the 50
corridor to try to get their master

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plans and planning lined up with ours.
Um I will say that the people and I

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mentioned this that she had at the
meeting. I won't mention their names

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00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:34,720
because I'll miss somebody. But these
are people what I call the new end dot

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00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:40,960
have been just extraordinary to work
with. They work with us to try to get

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00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:46,480
things around issues and challenges and
bureaucracy and um they're wonderful to

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00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:51,039
work with and uh and so is Tracy. Uh the
next thing is on another note um the

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00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:55,600
conversations of the Nevada Highway
Patrol are still ongoing about

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00:33:52,720 --> 00:34:02,480
potentially Story County contributing to
a patrol um on I80 between Vista and USA

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00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:07,039
Parkway with NHP agents. uh the folks
have been working with and uh before

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00:34:04,399 --> 00:34:11,280
were eager and excited. I did get some
news back that right now they're running

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00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:14,960
into some short resources. They have to
do this with overtime folks and they

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00:34:13,359 --> 00:34:19,040
don't have enough people working
overtime in the region. U but we're

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00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:24,240
going to continue that conversation. I'm
not going to let that go. Uh the Patrick

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00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:30,480
interchange as you see photos that are
here and there, it's um on par and on

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00:34:27,359 --> 00:34:35,200
schedule and on budget. Uh, and I am
understanding that they are regularly

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00:34:33,119 --> 00:34:40,000
keeping it open at certain times during
the day. I drove it myself one day and

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00:34:37,839 --> 00:34:44,240
was able to get on and through it. Uh,
that new on-ramp should be ready in

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00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:49,200
about a week and a half to two weeks and
and it'll be ready and done. So, very

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00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:53,200
excited about that. Uh, lastly, I'll
just mention that Alex Tanek was not

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00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:57,680
able to make the meeting today. He's
working on our BDR that we'll talk about

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00:34:55,119 --> 00:35:01,200
later. He's been working on updating our
county codes, especially title 2

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00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:05,839
administration. He's going through that
right now and he's going through all of

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00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:09,040
our nonHR administrative policies. We
think maybe December, January, we'll

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00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:13,280
have a lot of this stuff ready and
updated. So, he's been a great addition

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00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,599
to the office. That's all I have.
>> All right. Thank you, Austin.

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Commissioner [clears throat] Gilman, do
you have any questions or comments for

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Austin?
>> No, thank you.

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» Vice Chairman.
>> Uh, no. Thank you.

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00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:28,829
» All right. Thanks for the update,
Austin.

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00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,829
Uh, clerk treasurer's office. [snorts]

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00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:37,760
» Thank you, Mr. Chair, commissioners. Jim
Hindle, clerk and treasurer. Uh, I just

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wanted to bring up a couple things.
First of, we put out or actually uh,

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Deputy Clerk and Treasurer Dory Fate put
out a memo via email to most of the

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00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:54,000
departments last week redefining and
resetting our deposit procedure. Our

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00:35:51,359 --> 00:35:59,359
objectives with that are twofold. One is
to help us manage the rate at which

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00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:04,960
deposits are being brought in so we have
time to process them uh efficiently and

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00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:09,280
the other side is to try and reduce the
amount of time that funds are being held

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00:36:07,359 --> 00:36:13,440
at various offices around the county so
we can get those deposits in and get

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00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:17,599
those funds into the bank. Uh it's a
little different. We're trying to set

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times for each and dates for each uh
department to come in and make deposits.

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Uh if there are questions on that, uh
talk to Dory or I. We're just trying to

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00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:30,960
make the process a little more
efficient, manage time and accuracy and

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00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:36,800
safety of our funds.
Uh DMV continues to be busy. In the last

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00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:42,240
month, we did over 220. Uh that's a
little lower than where we've been, but

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00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:47,920
it continues to be uh strong and in
demand. And we're also seeing a lot more

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00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:51,440
uh questions coming in from other
counties because I guess other counties

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00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:55,920
and some of the other DMV offices are
both putting their lead times out for

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00:36:53,680 --> 00:37:00,560
appointments as well as some of the
contract DMVs in other counties are

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00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:04,800
taking our lead and only servicing their
constituents. And so if you hear, let us

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00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:08,800
hear if you get any feedback on that.
But we want to make sure Story County

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00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:16,240
residents are getting through and aren't
experiencing problems. And then uh last

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00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:21,119
but not least, we are 48 days today from
early voting and we're just a little

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00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:25,359
over 60 days until election day. So,
we're feverishly getting things set up

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00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:29,280
there and working to make sure we're
preparing, getting the election set up,

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00:37:27,119 --> 00:37:34,960
mail ballots. I know there's been a lot
of uh issues in the news about mail

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00:37:31,839 --> 00:37:39,119
ballots, but we will continue to go with
statutes

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00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:43,920
uh and by law. And at this point, we are
on schedule to issue our mail ballots uh

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00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:48,880
going out in the middle of September. Of
course, if anything changes as the court

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00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:52,880
uh as the issues make their way through
the courts, we'll let you know. But

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00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:57,440
everything should be business as usual
on that standpoint. However, I would

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00:37:55,200 --> 00:38:01,760
emphasize that if people don't want to
get a mail ballot, please contact us.

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00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:04,960
There's an opt out form and we can make
it so that you don't get a ballot. You

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00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:09,280
don't have to worry about that being in
your mailbox. Uh, with that being said,

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00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:13,119
we also encourage everybody to check
your registration to make sure nothing

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00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:17,680
has changed, especially if you have
traveled to the DMV. Uh, but if there

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00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:22,000
are any questions about registration,
please contact us. And with that, we're

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00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:27,040
ready to have some fun.
>> All right, Commissioner Gman, do you

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00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:28,800
have any questions or comments for Jim?
>> No. Thank you,

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00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,040
» Vice Chairman.
>> No, thank you.

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00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,040
» Jim, I have a question.
>> Oh, sure.

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00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:37,760
» Did you say mail and ballots are going
out September 15th? They're they're

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00:38:35,359 --> 00:38:42,079
going out around they'll start going out
by middle of September maybe uh in there

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00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:47,040
because we I mean some of that's
starting with our overseas and out of

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00:38:43,839 --> 00:38:52,480
state and then mail ballots will go out
yeah around September 15th around

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00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:55,440
September 18th uh for instate they'll
start processing.

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00:38:53,599 --> 00:38:58,320
» All right. Thank you. Just wanted a
clarification there.

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00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,400
» Yeah. If uh we get an update on that and
something is a little bit different

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00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:03,760
we'll let you know.
>> All right. Thank you very much. Uh, is

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00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:07,520
there anybody in the courtroom that has
an update for us that I forgot to call

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00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:11,920
on today?
All right, thank you everybody for those

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00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:16,160
updates. Much appreciated. Lots of good
things going on in Story County all the

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00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:19,680
time. Um, we're going to move right
along to item number 10, which is board

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00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:23,160
comment. We'll start off with
Commissioner Gilman

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00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:28,800
» today. Thank you.
>> All right, [clears throat] Vice

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00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:31,680
Chairman. Um, I just want to acknowledge
the work of the sheriff's office and

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00:39:30,079 --> 00:39:36,000
everyone else for the sheriff's night
out in Lockwood last week. Pretty good

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00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:42,560
attendance and turnout and a great time
as had by all. So, agreed. Thank you.

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00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:46,079
Um, we talked about National Night Out.
Um, you know, again, solid attendance

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00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:50,720
out there. I think it was the biggest
one I've been to. Um, one of the

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00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:54,640
helicopter landings was a bit squirly,
but uh, we'll talk about that one later.

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00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:59,440
Um, the only other thing I wanted to
talk about was uh uh we had a Story

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00:39:57,359 --> 00:40:04,400
County resident pass away a little bit
few weeks ago. If we can have a moment

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00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:08,240
of silence for Don Air. Uh, you know,
um, a lot of folks know him around town.

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00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:12,240
I know he worked at the Delta and did uh
quite a few other things. Uh, been a

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00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:16,160
staple in Virginia City for quite a long
time. Uh, so if we can have a moment of

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00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:19,880
silence for Don uh and his family, I'd
greatly appreciate it.

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00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:28,079
» All right. Thank you.
Uh, moving right along to item number

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11. This is a discussion for possible
action. Consideration and possible

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approval of resolution number 26-834
to lease a portion of uh 800 C Street,

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00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:42,960
Virginia City, Nevada, occupied by
Divide Fitness, Inc. at below market uh

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00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:46,640
monthly rental amount with utility costs
to be determined by the Story County

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00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:51,520
Board of County Commissioners declaring
such least uh in the best interest of

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00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:57,280
the community. Uh Lisa,
>> good morning. Lisa missile for the

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00:40:52,960 --> 00:41:03,599
record. Um so this is uh for resolution
26834 for divide fitness. This is an

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00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:08,800
opportunity for the commissioners to
have a discussion and to determine a

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00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:15,040
updated lease amount if any and
utilities. Um the the owner of the

539
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:21,119
business is here, Jesse Fain. Um, so
this, um, recent appraisal came in that

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00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:26,560
was completed by Mark Stafford
at 3,280

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00:41:24,319 --> 00:41:33,119
for the estimated market rent. The last
one, which there is a date correction,

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00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:39,359
it was April 24th of 2024, not 2026, was
estimated at $2,798

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00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:47,119
a month. Divide Fitness is currently
occupying about 39% of the building or

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00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:53,359
3,720 square feet. And going back, I did
a review of what the utilities were over

545
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:59,359
the past year for this area for
electrical would be at this portion um

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00:41:56,079 --> 00:42:03,880
for the square footage $366.11
and water service at $67.86.

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00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:12,079
Um, and I'm happy to read the resolution
if you like or answer any questions

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00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:17,800
beforehand.
>> All right. Uh, Commissioner Gilman, do

549
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,800
you have any questions or comments?

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00:42:18,319 --> 00:42:23,920
» Not at this time.
>> Vice Chairman.

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00:42:21,839 --> 00:42:29,280
» Um,
yeah. I'm sorry. I just I'd just like to

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00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:35,200
um take a look at the resolution in a
little more detail. Um, it's kind of a

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00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:39,119
lengthy pattern. So may So maybe Lisa
can either read it or hit the highlights

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00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,640
for us or or what have you.
>> Sound good?

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00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:44,319
» I can go ahead and read it.
>> Let's do it.

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00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:48,599
» Resolution number 26-834,
a resolution pursuant to NRS244.2833

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00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:55,359
authorizing Story County to lease county
owned property to Divide Fitness, Inc.

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00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:58,880
for below market rent, declaring such
lease in the best interest of the

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00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:02,880
community and directing the board of
county commissioners to set rent and

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00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:08,160
utility cost based on prior year
actuals. Whereas Story County owns the

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00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:13,079
premises located at 800 South Sea
Street, Virginia City, Nevada,

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00:43:10,079 --> 00:43:13,079
APN00001-042-15,

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00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:24,160
a portion of which is currently leased
and occupied by Divide Fitness, Inc.

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00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:28,079
Whereas Story County, oop, I skipped a
different one. Whereas Divide Fitness

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00:43:26,319 --> 00:43:31,680
provides valuable public health and
wellness services as a 24-hour

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00:43:29,839 --> 00:43:37,359
membership-based fitness facility
contributing positively to community

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00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:41,200
well-being. Whereas on July 8th, 2026, a
fair market rent appraisal was completed

568
00:43:39,359 --> 00:43:45,359
by Mark Stafford, certified general
appraiser, who determined the market

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00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:50,400
rental value of the Divide Fitness
premises to be $3,280

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00:43:48,240 --> 00:43:54,480
per month. Whereas the board
acknowledges this professional appraisal

571
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:58,400
and finds that the appraised amount
represents current fair market rental

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00:43:56,720 --> 00:44:03,359
value for the leased portion of the
building.

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00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:08,079
Whereas NRS244.2833
authorizes Story County to lease county

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00:44:05,359 --> 00:44:11,680
owned real property to a private entity
at less than fair market value when the

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00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:18,720
board determines such a lease to be in
the best interest of the community.

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00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:23,119
Whereas priory year utility cost records
demonstrate proportional usage between

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00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:27,599
justice court and divide fitness based
on square footage with divide fitness

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00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:32,240
historically accounting for 39% of
shared utility consumption. Whereas the

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00:44:30,319 --> 00:44:36,480
board finds it equitable to determine
utility charges for the new lease term

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00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:42,319
using prior year data and the square
footage formula applied at the attached

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00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:47,359
in the attached utility documents with
an annual review and adjustment of

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00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:51,599
utility charges as needed. Whereas the
board further finds that continued

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00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:56,160
occupancy by Divide Fitness ensures
stable utilization of the county-owned

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00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:59,359
building prevents vacancy and maintains
a community serving business that

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00:44:57,839 --> 00:45:03,760
contributes to health, safety, and
public access. Whereas the board finds

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00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:08,640
it appropriate to allow review and
potential adjustment of the monthly

587
00:45:05,839 --> 00:45:12,160
rental rate on an annual basis. Whereas
Story County will maintain fire

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00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:16,079
extinguishers within the lease premises
to protect the county-owned building and

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00:45:13,839 --> 00:45:20,880
ensure safety for staff, tenants, and
visitors.

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00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:24,319
Whereas the current lease and draft
replacement lease have been reviewed for

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00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:29,200
reference and will guide preparation of
the final lease agreement. Now,

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00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:32,960
therefore, it be resolved by the Story
County Board of County Commissioners

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00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:36,880
that lease authorization. Story County
is authorized to enter into a new lease

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00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:41,440
agreement with Divide Fitness, Inc. for
the premises located at 800 South Sea

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00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:46,560
Street, Virginia City, Nevada. Lease
term. The new lease shall commence on

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00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:50,880
September 1st, 2026 for a period of
three years with an option for a

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00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:56,000
two-year extension below market lease
approval based on the July 8th, 2026

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00:45:53,920 --> 00:46:01,520
appraisal establishing fair market rent
at 3,280 per month. The board formally

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00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:05,200
finds that leasing the premises to
Divide Fitness at below market value is

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00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:08,760
in the best interest of Story County
pursuant to NRS244.2833

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00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:16,000
due to the public benefits and community
services provided by the LESI. No

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00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:20,240
competitive bid required. The board
determines that issuing a competitive

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00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:24,400
bid is not necessary as retaining the
current tenant is in the community's

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00:46:22,319 --> 00:46:28,960
best interest and supports consistent
safe operation of the building. Rent

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00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:34,240
determination. The board shall establish
a below market rent rate taking into

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00:46:32,079 --> 00:46:38,400
account community benefit, historical
rent, building use, and the completed

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00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:41,520
fair market appraisal with annual review
and potential adjustments as

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00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:46,240
appropriate.
Utility cost determination. Utility

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00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:51,599
charges will be calculated using prior
year utility totals and the established

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00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:55,200
61% 39% square footage allocation
between the justice court and divide

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00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:59,680
fitness with an annual review and
adjustment of utility charges for

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00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:02,640
accuracy fire extinguishers. Story
county shall maintain the fire

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00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:07,599
extinguishers within the lease premises
as part of the standard building safety

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00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:11,839
practices lease documents. The draft
lease and current lease are incorporated

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00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:14,880
as guiding documents for preparation of
the final lease.

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00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:22,560
passed adopted maybe this day.
>> Can you just cover uh on the record what

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the current lease is right now? The
current rent is

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00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:31,599
» The current rent is $1,500 a month.
>> And uh you mentioned that there's going

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00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:36,640
to be
two other additional charges now. Power

620
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:40,880
» if the board determines.
>> Correct. And that dollar amount again,

621
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:46,400
» uh, electrical service was estimated at
$366.11

622
00:47:43,359 --> 00:47:50,920
a month and water service at $67.86
per month.

623
00:47:47,119 --> 00:47:50,920
» All right. Thank you.

624
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:59,319
» Uh, Commissioner Gilman, do you have any
questions or comments at this time?

625
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:10,599
» Well, as I see in the best interest of
the community, you keep this

626
00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:10,599
going.

627
00:48:15,119 --> 00:48:19,680
» Uh, thank you, Commissioner. Vice
Chairman, do you have any questions or

628
00:48:18,079 --> 00:48:23,520
comments at this time?
>> Um, I don't I don't I have some

629
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:27,280
comments, but I'd be happy to hear from
the Blessie if if she'd like to speak as

630
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:33,040
well as the public.
>> Yep.

631
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:38,520
» Um, all right. So, uh, is there anything
you'd like to come up and say as a

632
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,520
business owner?

633
00:48:42,319 --> 00:48:50,960
» Jesse Fain, um, owner of Divide Fitness.
I'm just curious. I understand, uh, you

634
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:57,119
guys are more comfortable with the lease
format that does include the utilities.

635
00:48:54,079 --> 00:49:00,640
Just waiting to hear what the base rent
would be.

636
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:05,839
» Okay. So, as it sits right now, if
everything stayed the same, you'd go

637
00:49:02,079 --> 00:49:10,319
from 1,500 to roughly 1920,
assuming the base rent was not adjusted.

638
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:14,160
That's what the new rent would be.
>> Okay.

639
00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:15,440
» Um, anything else you'd like to state at
this time?

640
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:20,280
» No.
>> Okay. Is there any public comment

641
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,280
regarding this item?

642
00:49:25,599 --> 00:49:33,599
» Jennifer McCain, Story County
Controller. Um, I am up here as the

643
00:49:30,559 --> 00:49:38,079
controller and it's um, my job to make
sure that the fiscal impact is fully

644
00:49:35,839 --> 00:49:42,160
reviewed and acknowledged. I'm not here
to say that divide fitness does not

645
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:47,599
provide a benefit to our community. We
all, I think, understand that it does.

646
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:52,319
However, we also need to acknowledge
that there are other businesses in our

647
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:57,119
very small community that provide their
own benefits. Whether this is a

648
00:49:54,720 --> 00:50:05,599
restaurant, a bar, a gift shop, an
athome daycare, an outome um masseuse or

649
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:10,640
therapist, um we need to acknowledge
that the subsidy that we are providing

650
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:15,440
this business is solely because they are
in a county owned building. It's not

651
00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:20,960
something that we can give every other
business owner in our community. Um and

652
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:26,800
I'm not saying that we should, but we do
need to take that into account. Um, we

653
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:33,040
also need to pay attention that this is
actually our taxpayers giving this

654
00:50:29,359 --> 00:50:39,040
subsidy and we need to put a dollar
amount as to what the benefit is to

655
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:46,559
them. Um, these same taxpayers have the
option to have membership to this

656
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:50,960
business and they are paying full price.
I've never heard that they are getting a

657
00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:55,920
cut rate discount because of a below
market value or the subsidy that they're

658
00:50:53,520 --> 00:51:02,640
providing. As well, there is a segment
of our population that cannot afford to

659
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:07,119
join this gym and their tax dollars are
still subsidizing this business. So, I

660
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:11,800
think those things are very important
that we look at. Um,

661
00:51:14,240 --> 00:51:22,079
I think that acknowledging that this
business is

662
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:26,559
um a benefit to our community, we also
need to keep in the forefront of our

663
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:31,520
minds that we're setting a precedence um
second time around for this and is this

664
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:37,440
the route that we want to go. If you
remember last time when we fell um the

665
00:51:34,720 --> 00:51:41,760
commission decided that the board should
um that the county should give a below

666
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:48,240
market rent. We then were turned around
with our other

667
00:51:44,079 --> 00:51:54,160
um tenant came back to us and said me
too. I want to be treated the same. I'm

668
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:58,559
very concerned that if we're doing this
subsidy that our businesses that don't

669
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:04,800
have the luxury of being in county
buildings could also come to us and say

670
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:10,000
what are you going to do for me? Um so
again while I think the divide fitnesses

671
00:52:07,599 --> 00:52:14,800
provides a benefit to our community it
is to a small segment of our community

672
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:21,680
and we need to keep an open mind that
our taxpayers go far beyond that.

673
00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:26,119
That's all I have to say. Thank you. Is
there any other public comment at this

674
00:52:23,119 --> 00:52:26,119
time?

675
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:32,079
All right. Not seeing any. Um,
Commissioner Gilman, I'll ask one more

676
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:35,079
time. Do you have any questions or
comments?

677
00:52:37,599 --> 00:52:42,000
» All right. Vice Chairman, do you have
anything?

678
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:46,800
» Um, yeah, I do. Anyway, um you know,
I've heard from constituents both, you

679
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:50,480
know, reinforcing the value that the
Divide Fitness brings to the community

680
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:54,880
and and I I think there's no question
about that. Uh and I've also heard

681
00:52:52,480 --> 00:53:00,880
others that that have expressed concerns
sim similar what the controller um has

682
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:04,559
has expressed and um concerns about
equity in providing below market

683
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:09,760
consideration for one company but not
for others. And um I think I think for

684
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:14,000
me that's that's still a sticking point.
So, we we work pretty hard to do things

685
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:17,280
the right way, to do things properly, to
make sure that we're above board,

686
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:22,800
transparent, following the law, doing
things properly. And the law does give

687
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:27,359
us the flexibility or the discretion to
make a finding through a resolution that

688
00:53:25,119 --> 00:53:34,160
it's in the best interest of the county
to uh to not charge market rent. And so,

689
00:53:31,599 --> 00:53:39,920
that's what's being proposed to us here.
I think for me, this the sticking point

690
00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:46,800
is still that I have a hard time
facing taxpayers of the county and

691
00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:54,079
telling them that uh I'm I'm having
integrity by saying that um in this case

692
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:57,920
we can charge less than market rent when
we just went through a process with

693
00:53:55,680 --> 00:54:03,440
another county owned building where we
insisted on the full process. Now I'm

694
00:54:00,559 --> 00:54:07,200
certainly not in favor of um of a
competitive bidding process. We have a

695
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:11,200
business that's already established that
wants to continue. I don't we shouldn't

696
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:18,319
bring anyone else into that
conversation. Um but I I I have I have a

697
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:21,839
really hard time making that finding
that it's in the best interest of the

698
00:54:20,079 --> 00:54:26,720
county to do so in this case and not
necessarily in others. Um as with the

699
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:32,319
last time we considered this the
flexibility that we have outside of that

700
00:54:29,839 --> 00:54:36,000
uh I'm I'm totally on board for and what
I mean by that is we have two

701
00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:40,480
appraisals. One came in significantly
lower than the other. I'm happy to go to

702
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:45,040
the bottom of what market rent is. I I
think that we have flexibility on

703
00:54:42,559 --> 00:54:48,720
utilities as well without passing a
resolution that it's in the best

704
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:55,160
interest of the county to take this
alternative path. And so I'd be willing

705
00:54:51,839 --> 00:54:55,160
to look at

706
00:54:55,280 --> 00:55:02,160
not capturing those separately, rolling
that in, whatever. U but it's still it

707
00:55:00,319 --> 00:55:06,720
still comes in quite a bit higher than
if we were to leave it where it is and

708
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:10,240
add the utility component. So th those
are my thoughts on it. That's what I'm

709
00:55:08,079 --> 00:55:13,920
struggling with as far as process goes
and and the right way to proceed

710
00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:16,960
forward. Um but I am just one member of
the board.

711
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:21,440
» Do you have a do you have a dollar
amount that you're

712
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:27,440
that [snorts] you're set in on?
>> No. Um so so to me to me it's not a

713
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:30,559
dimmer switch. It's a light switch on
the main amount. And the main amount is

714
00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:33,760
either we charge market rent or we
don't. Okay. if we don't charge market

715
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:38,319
if we charge anything less than market
rent we have to find it's in the best

716
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:41,920
interest of the county to do so. Um and
that's the finding that I'm having a

717
00:55:39,599 --> 00:55:46,079
tough time making. So for me I look at
it and I go well the latest appraisal

718
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:50,640
said 3280 but we have a previous one
that's at 2798.

719
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:56,480
That to me is as much market rent as
3280 and so easy for me to go down to

720
00:55:54,240 --> 00:56:01,920
that level. I don't believe we have to
make the same finding u about utilities

721
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:05,359
and so I'd be willing to wave utilities
if that's helpful. County should handle

722
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:08,960
the fire extinguishers. I think that's a
no-brainer. Um anything else kind of

723
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:13,920
around the periphery that we can be
flexible on. I'm totally on board with

724
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:18,000
that. Um I just have a really hard time
making the finding and potentially

725
00:56:15,839 --> 00:56:22,240
setting a precedent that we that we
treat one business differently than

726
00:56:19,839 --> 00:56:31,040
another.
>> Thank you. Um you know I uh to to jump

727
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:37,040
in here um you know the the
understand the logic uh you know for me

728
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:42,400
it's um
I guess slightly different in the sense

729
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:46,799
that there isn't a competing business. U
I don't necessarily disagree with you.

730
00:56:44,319 --> 00:56:52,240
Um I mean the point has been made that
you know um

731
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:56,240
there's benefit to the gym. Um, you
know, I was a private business owner

732
00:56:53,680 --> 00:57:01,280
myself. I get it. Um, this is definitely
a unique circumstance. I mean, I've made

733
00:56:58,559 --> 00:57:07,839
my views pretty clear. I think the
rental business in general for Story

734
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:13,359
County is a tough call. Um, but uh, you
know, if um,

735
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:17,839
you know, again, I I see it both ways as
well. So, I mean, where where it sits

736
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:23,200
right now, uh, is that if we kept the
base rent the same, charge utilities,

737
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:30,880
we'd be at $1,920. Uh, your suggestion
is that we wrap everything up, um, and

738
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:35,200
basically sit at the $2,700 mark.
>> I that would be acceptable to me. I'm

739
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:38,000
not necessarily I'm not necessarily
suggesting it, but that's that's

740
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:41,920
something that I could support.
>> Okay. Uh, Commissioner Gilman, while

741
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:44,799
this discussion is happening, what are
your thoughts?

742
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:53,839
Well, again, you know, I see this
business as a benefit to the community

743
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:58,720
and like you pointed out, it's not like
there's no competing business. We don't

744
00:57:56,559 --> 00:58:06,240
have anything like this I'm aware of in
your city like YMCA type thing or

745
00:58:04,079 --> 00:58:10,000
excuse me.
Um,

746
00:58:08,319 --> 00:58:16,240
for me,
just looking at this, you know, the

747
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:21,119
country utilities,
you know, I think is

748
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:25,200
something that we can handle as a
community. I understand there's other

749
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:34,799
taxpayers out there that may not use the
gym, but there's also taxpayers that

750
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:40,559
can't get themselves down the hill and
not easy for them to move around. I was

751
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:45,280
happy with something like this.
Excuse me.

752
00:58:42,319 --> 00:58:49,359
» Okay. So, um I'm just trying to pin you
down here a little bit. Sorry. Um so,

753
00:58:47,359 --> 00:58:54,720
you're comfortable with with the base
rent staying the same and charging

754
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:57,760
utilities, which puts us at 1920.
>> I apologize.

755
00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:01,000
Yes.
>> No problem.

756
00:59:02,319 --> 00:59:05,319
» Okay.

757
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:10,760
Um, as a business owner, do you mind if
I call you up?

758
00:59:11,599 --> 00:59:19,040
» So, uh, you've expressed in the past
that there isn't much flexibility

759
00:59:16,799 --> 00:59:24,640
on your end as far as being able to
absorb an increase.

760
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:29,119
» Yes. So, we just hit our 10-year
anniversary in April, and over those 10

761
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:32,799
years, I have absorbed all the other
increases.

762
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:38,640
So, I will have to raise my membership
rates. Okay. Um, have you done any

763
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:42,400
calculations on what that's going to put
the membership rates at? If

764
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:45,760
» you know, because even now there's a
there's a I'm not going to say

765
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:51,040
substantial increase, but
>> yeah, it's a bit of a guess because

766
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:55,680
we hope some people won't want to
stomach that and then I'll lose members.

767
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:59,599
So, it's it's
>> Where has your membership has your

768
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:02,880
membership stayed the same? Has it
increased, decreased? It's dropped a

769
01:00:01,359 --> 01:00:06,799
little bit, especially over the last
several months with people nervous about

770
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:09,839
what's going to happen. A lot of my
people like to do I only have two

771
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:14,240
options. You either pay by the month or
if you pay a year in advance, you get

772
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:17,680
two months free. Um and so a lot of
those had to go away because I couldn't

773
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:19,119
I didn't know if I'd be around.
>> Okay.

774
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:25,280
» So,
>> all right. So, are you still um I mean

775
01:00:22,079 --> 01:00:31,920
if if if we end up approving something
uh at the minimum 1920, do you

776
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:34,640
anticipate that being an issue?
>> I think they could handle a little bit

777
01:00:33,359 --> 01:00:36,480
of an increase to cover that.
>> I mean, you still have roughly 100

778
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,280
members.
>> Mhm.

779
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:41,520
» Okay. So, if my math's right, it's
basically about, you know, four bucks a

780
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:50,240
member.
>> Yeah. Um if if uh

781
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:53,920
we went up higher than that um at 2700,
you don't think that's going to work for

782
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:57,119
anybody? It's just too much of an
increase to absorb.

783
01:00:55,200 --> 01:01:01,280
» I think so. And unfortunately, a lot of
the people that I would lose would be

784
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:04,880
our older folks.
>> Okay.

785
01:01:03,119 --> 01:01:07,440
All right. Thank you. I don't I don't
have any more questions at this time.

786
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:12,359
I'm going to ask again. I know there's
not a whole bunch of public in there,

787
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:12,359
but is there any other public comment?

788
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:19,359
Okay. Um, are you prepared to make a
motion at this point?

789
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:24,160
» You know, if it's all right, I' I'd like
to respond to a couple of the the points

790
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:29,520
that Commissioner Gilman brought up. Um,
>> you know, I um

791
01:01:27,119 --> 01:01:33,359
c certainly there there is a benefit to
having a gym in town and those I don't

792
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:40,240
want to reitigate litigate everything
that we talked about two years ago. Um,

793
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:47,920
but there are uh other what I would call
health related businesses

794
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:53,920
um or or uh organizations that could or
would benefit from a subsidy of some

795
01:01:50,079 --> 01:01:56,960
kind. Um and um I'll just use one
example. My wife and I teach swing

796
01:01:55,440 --> 01:02:00,640
dancing. We do as a fundraiser at the
Fourth Ward School. If that was

797
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:06,079
subsidized, we do it a lot more often.
It's a healthy activity. It's a it's a

798
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:08,880
social activity. uh it brings a benefit
to the community. Now, I'm not trying to

799
01:02:07,359 --> 01:02:14,000
make a living off of it. It's not I'm
I'm not advocating for a subsidy, but my

800
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:17,599
point is to point out that um it's it's
a bit of a slippery slope when we start

801
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:21,680
down saying, "Well, this is a benefit
more of a b is it more of a benefit than

802
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:26,400
this other business." Uh that's a that's
a picking winners and losers that's

803
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:32,040
that's really tough for me to um to to
stomach.

804
01:02:28,079 --> 01:02:32,040
Um, I

805
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:38,720
we don't know what the market would be,
and I'm not really uh advocating that we

806
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:43,119
go out and see who else is out there.
But I'll tell you, if if I if I could

807
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:47,760
have access to a 5,500 square foot
building for undermarket rent with

808
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:51,839
utilities capped, um, I'd do it in a
heartbeat because I'd plug in a bunch of

809
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:56,720
Bitcoin miners and use a ton of util a
ton of electricity and make all that

810
01:02:53,359 --> 01:03:01,680
money back. And so so again, not that
I'm proposing that, but I don't think

811
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:05,920
that it's absolutely unique. I think the
biggest issue

812
01:03:03,599 --> 01:03:11,680
when I consider the argument that this
provides a benefit is that what is the

813
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:15,599
proper way for us as a government, an
entity that has the ability to take

814
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:19,280
people's money through taxes? What is
the proper way for us to provide a

815
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:23,280
benefit to the community? And the proper
way for us to provide a benefit to the

816
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:29,200
community is to provide a public a
public facility. That that's how we do

817
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:33,920
it. And we're allowed to provide
subsidies for nonprofit organizations

818
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:38,160
because there's a clear benefit to the
community there.

819
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:44,160
But as a general rule, we're not allowed
to provide a benefit through a private

820
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:48,960
company um and and through a private
organization. And so there was some talk

821
01:03:46,319 --> 01:03:52,799
about this last time, but if the goal is
to provide a benefit to the community,

822
01:03:50,799 --> 01:03:56,240
then it should be open to the entire
community. And I don't want to change. I

823
01:03:54,799 --> 01:04:01,680
don't want to force a private business
to change. I don't want to force them to

824
01:03:59,119 --> 01:04:05,280
open up to whomever. But as a
government, that's kind of what we have

825
01:04:03,039 --> 01:04:08,720
to do. And so those are those are my big
stumbling blocks when we when we make

826
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:13,200
the argument that this is the proper way
to provide a community benefit. Um, that

827
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:18,640
being said, if it's the will of the
board to go ahead, I'm I'm not going to

828
01:04:14,799 --> 01:04:22,720
stand in the way. Um, I I just I I just
can't make those dots connect for me.

829
01:04:21,119 --> 01:04:27,119
» Okay. I mean, I don't want to read in
between the lines here, but um, is there

830
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:32,160
is there some sort of desire that this
becomes a county facility like the

831
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:36,079
swimming pool?
>> U, you know, I thought a lot about that

832
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:40,799
because that was a topic of conversation
previously and I have a hard time seeing

833
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:45,039
as a standalone county facility. Uh, I
mean, do you have someone sitting at the

834
01:04:42,079 --> 01:04:49,520
front desk? Um, I if you have to be open
to the public, then a a cardlock system,

835
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:55,440
I don't know if that really works. I
think staffing it and I don't I don't

836
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:58,720
see us staffing a community gym, if you
will,

837
01:04:56,480 --> 01:05:02,559
» um, by itself. Now, down the road, if
there's some way to roll it in with

838
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:05,920
other recreational activities and have
someone staffing a combined recreation

839
01:05:04,559 --> 01:05:09,920
facility of some kind, I think that
makes a ton of sense and totally willing

840
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:13,839
to look into that. But that's not that's
kind of outside the scope of what we're

841
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:16,000
considering here. That's that's not part
of the discussion.

842
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:20,960
» Yeah. No, I know. I just don't want to
leave that option out if that's

843
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:24,079
» a direction that we want to look at. So,
>> um

844
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:27,119
Okay.
At this point, are you prepared to make

845
01:05:25,359 --> 01:05:30,440
a motion?
>> I'm sorry.

846
01:05:31,039 --> 01:05:38,640
» Oh, yeah. So, go ahead, Commissioner.
>> Appreciate everything you said. totally

847
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:43,280
understand where you're coming from
and and if we you know decide later on

848
01:05:41,119 --> 01:05:48,559
in the future do something like you all
just discuss about the community center

849
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:52,960
that would be great to do something
but I don't think we're ready today to

850
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:58,000
have those discussions so trying to keep
something for the community

851
01:05:55,440 --> 01:06:02,400
at least for the next few years or
whatever that might be I think my

852
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:09,119
sticking point is just having something
up there for our community

853
01:06:05,119 --> 01:06:14,960
and yes, we would have to subsidize it,
but I just think it's a it's a benefit

854
01:06:12,799 --> 01:06:20,319
that's not
a bar or something of that nature. So

855
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:23,319
like recreational
or

856
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:31,440
people working out, being out there away
from their homes, away from their

857
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:36,240
computers, just being out, meeting
people at the gym, wait for them to

858
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:40,319
connect with others.
At this point, what we have, I see it as

859
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:44,799
a benefit. Is there something else we
can do in the future? Sure. I'd be

860
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:50,079
willing to discuss that. I'm just
looking at as what we have today.

861
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:53,440
That's all I wanted to say.
>> All right. Thank you, Commissioner.

862
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:57,816
» Yeah, M Mr. Chairman, if I may. And
yeah, thank you, Commissioner Gilman. I

863
01:06:55,039 --> 01:07:04,000
appreciate the those thoughts and and
[snorts] I know it it was I think just a

864
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:07,920
bit before your time, but um it was kind
of my understanding that the two years

865
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:12,319
that we continued on the last one was to
be the time for us to discuss all the

866
01:07:10,079 --> 01:07:16,240
different ideas and what have you. And
so I'm I I I do want a resolution. I

867
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:21,760
don't think there's any point in holding
out uh for something that we have not

868
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:26,000
discussed or planned. Um but you know, a
little a little bit of frustration that

869
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:30,319
we didn't take the time that we had in
the interim to fully vet out those

870
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:33,680
ideas. Um because it was my
understanding that's kind of the whole

871
01:07:31,599 --> 01:07:37,520
point of why we continued it last time
and I I don't love kicking the can down

872
01:07:35,359 --> 01:07:40,720
the road, but um but we need to deal
with the issue that's at hand, of

873
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:45,920
course.
>> Okay,

874
01:07:43,039 --> 01:07:45,920
you're absolutely

875
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:50,960
you come up. Is there something you want
to say?

876
01:07:50,079 --> 01:07:52,480
» Yes, please.
>> Yeah.

877
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:57,520
» Jennifer McCain,
>> Story County Comproller. Again, while I

878
01:07:54,400 --> 01:08:01,520
understand everyone's points and I can
have agreements with all of them, I

879
01:07:59,839 --> 01:08:07,680
think some of Commissioner Gilman's
exact reasons for the benefit of this

880
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:11,039
particular establishment,
um getting them away from their

881
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:15,039
computers, getting our residents
outside, having them socialized that can

882
01:08:13,119 --> 01:08:21,199
be attached to any other business in our
community. I we all understand the

883
01:08:18,159 --> 01:08:24,719
benefit of fitness. We have many areas
for people to get outside and walk. We

884
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:31,440
have a pool that the county already
provides and um senior center activities

885
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:36,640
that utilize the park. I think it is
very important that why we understand

886
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:44,159
all of these non-financial benefits. We
need to be able to represent some

887
01:08:40,159 --> 01:08:49,359
measures of um some measurable benefit
that we can pass on to our residents as

888
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:54,239
to why this one business
is getting a below market value rent

889
01:08:51,759 --> 01:09:00,000
when this is not an option for any other
business in our community, not just

890
01:08:57,679 --> 01:09:06,120
Virginia City, but the entire story
county.

891
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:06,120
» Thank you.

892
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:14,159
Did you have something, Lisa?
>> Okay.

893
01:09:12,747 --> 01:09:17,920
[snorts]
>> So, Commissioner Gil, uh, Commissioner

894
01:09:15,839 --> 01:09:23,000
Gilman,
Vice Sherman, are you prepared to make a

895
01:09:19,440 --> 01:09:23,000
motion at this time?

896
01:09:28,319 --> 01:09:33,759
Um, I don't I don't I have a feeling the
motion I made would not be supported by

897
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:36,719
the board, so it probably doesn't move
us forward.

898
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:42,279
» Okay.
>> All right. Uh, Commissioner Gilman,

899
01:09:38,319 --> 01:09:42,279
would you like to make a motion?

900
01:09:46,319 --> 01:09:52,960
» I don't have this time. I apologize.
>> Okay.

901
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:57,120
» It seems like this is a
very

902
01:09:55,199 --> 01:10:01,199
interesting issue here. Everybody kind
of has their feelings on it. Maybe I

903
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:05,440
need to understand something a little
bit more. I don't think I'm ready to

904
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:10,960
make a motion.
>> Okay. Um

905
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:12,000
are we month by month, monthto month
right now?

906
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:14,400
» Yes. Where?
>> And it's going to be month to month

907
01:10:13,199 --> 01:10:17,199
until this is decided.
>> Yes.

908
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:22,239
» So, um I know you don't like kicking the
can down the road. um if we got to kick

909
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:28,719
it for a month. Um I've just done some
basic math here. Um I believe it's going

910
01:10:24,719 --> 01:10:33,760
to be a $12 increase based on a 100
members. It's going to be a $12 increase

911
01:10:30,719 --> 01:10:39,920
if I'm not mistaken if we went to 2700
as opposed to 1500. Maybe my math's off.

912
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:45,440
Um but it's an additional 12 onto your
monthly fee of $50. Is that correct?

913
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:49,199
Has your membership fee gone up or
anything?

914
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:52,800
» No, it hasn't. But it this it'll depend
on what goes on here today. But I'd like

915
01:10:51,199 --> 01:10:54,800
to throw a couple things out there.
>> Sure.

916
01:10:53,120 --> 01:11:01,199
» Um
>> how many people bid on the other county

917
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:03,120
building when that went out to bid
>> old corner bar?

918
01:11:02,159 --> 01:11:06,560
» Mhm.
>> Uh

919
01:11:04,719 --> 01:11:12,000
believe one person.
>> There was interest from multiple parties

920
01:11:08,719 --> 01:11:18,719
but nobody followed through. Okay.
>> Um

921
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:18,719
and just kind of talking about

922
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:26,159
keeping people like I realize that the
gym isn't for everybody. It's not for a

923
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:30,560
majority of people want it, but there's
a significant batch of people that do

924
01:11:28,480 --> 01:11:34,960
use that. And that's that many people
that aren't going down the hill for that

925
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:38,480
resource. So, they're not going up and
down the grade. They're not going down

926
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:41,600
there and like, well, I'm already down
here going to the gym, so I'll just fill

927
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:44,719
my gas tank up down here at Maverick
instead of up here at our gas station.

928
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:49,440
So, there's other little things that go
along with it, too. keeping people up on

929
01:11:46,480 --> 01:11:54,239
the hill. Um,
you know, using this resource. So, just

930
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:57,199
like to
hopefully you can go back to your

931
01:11:55,520 --> 01:12:03,199
original thoughts of just adding in the
utilities, start there. Um,

932
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:11,600
comproller mentioned the pool. The pool
is open for 47 days.

933
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:15,840
This is open 365 days a year. Um, I know
it's kind of gets pushed off a little

934
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:20,239
bit, but rebuilding our pool and maybe
making it a full rec center, you know,

935
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:24,239
it's it's out there. It'll happen soon.
Maybe we can try to just keep this

936
01:12:21,679 --> 01:12:27,199
option alive until you get there. That's
all.

937
01:12:24,719 --> 01:12:29,840
» All right. Thank you.
So, Commissioner Gilman, am I

938
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:35,280
understanding you correctly? Would you
like a little bit of time to

939
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:38,280
digest this more or is that not what you
said?

940
01:12:39,199 --> 01:12:45,679
Please.
>> Okay. So then

941
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:49,239
» can I ask a question? Go ahead. We're
going to go that direction.

942
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:58,320
» Austin Husband for the record county
manager.

943
01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:01,600
Um,
what I'm going to ask you is just

944
01:12:59,679 --> 01:13:05,120
whatever the board decides to do, if
there's a continuence or you want to do

945
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:09,199
something else, can you give some
direction to staff, please, on what you

946
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:14,560
want us to do? Do you want us to
continue interfacing with the tenant? Do

947
01:13:12,159 --> 01:13:19,120
you want us to come back with multiple
options for this board to consider based

948
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:23,840
on a discussion happened today? I would
just ask that that's articulated um so

949
01:13:21,679 --> 01:13:27,840
we don't just bring it back to here in
October or whenever the next day is just

950
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:32,400
unless that's what you want just to
continue thinking about it and then the

951
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:36,000
same motion brought back that's fine too
we just want to be clear on that so we

952
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:41,120
kind of know what to do uh during the
interim that's all thank you

953
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:46,000
» thank you I think um I mean we we
basically have two options in front of

954
01:13:42,719 --> 01:13:51,120
us two two possible options right one
would be vice chairman's suggestion have

955
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:56,640
the the lower end of the original
appraisal, which was $2,700.

956
01:13:53,840 --> 01:14:01,280
Um, and then the other option
uh would be the keep the base around at

957
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:09,040
$1,500 and tack on essentially another
$420 in utilities. So, I think that

958
01:14:07,440 --> 01:14:13,600
uh
if there's any direction, I would say to

959
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:19,520
the business owner,
if this item is indeed postponed, I

960
01:14:16,480 --> 01:14:25,040
would probably work on running some
calculations based on that 2700 and see

961
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:29,360
what that's going to do to your monthly
membership fees. Um, so that at least

962
01:14:27,679 --> 01:14:33,280
there's an answer there to make sure my
math is correct. Um, I know you've

963
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:37,920
stated that your members don't really
have the pallet for an increase. Um,

964
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:41,920
nobody likes that increase, but I think
it would make everybody feel comfortable

965
01:14:40,906 --> 01:14:46,000
[snorts]
at least working on those two numbers.

966
01:14:43,679 --> 01:14:51,360
Obviously, keeping things the same, you
know, um, and and adding the utilities.

967
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:58,480
I assume that's easily dealt with on
your end. Um, if there is a if we do end

968
01:14:55,679 --> 01:15:05,199
up increasing the rent to $2,700,
utilities all wrapped up, um, I mean,

969
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:11,280
it's basically, you know, $780 more is
is the difference between, I think,

970
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:15,360
where we are all sitting right now. So,
you know, I would say for you at least,

971
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:20,800
those are probably two very realistic
options at this point. Um,

972
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:25,600
you know, and then as far as staff goes,
as far as a motion, I don't think

973
01:15:24,239 --> 01:15:30,400
» I'm speaking for myself. I don't think
anything needs to change with the motion

974
01:15:27,679 --> 01:15:33,600
other than
>> to roll this out.

975
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:37,600
» Yeah. I mean, I I don't want to
complicate things, but can I throw out

976
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:47,360
potentially something else for staff to
look at and Yep. And uh you know what if

977
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:53,440
um in instead of subsidizing in this way
um we looked at providing a benefit

978
01:15:51,040 --> 01:16:00,080
which is a subsidy on the membership to
anyone who's a resident of the county so

979
01:15:56,480 --> 01:16:03,840
that to to join the gym and so that it's
available to anyone. And I understand

980
01:16:02,159 --> 01:16:10,159
that would change the character, right?
you'd get people who aren't as um

981
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:18,159
devoted to fitness or kind of um
socially kind of in that space. But um

982
01:16:15,440 --> 01:16:22,960
for me it would alleviate the idea that
we are charging undermarket rent. We

983
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:27,920
could charge full market rent but then
provide what we would have subsidized

984
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:32,480
and I'm assuming much more because I
wouldn't want to limit it. it' be for

985
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:37,360
any u any residents of the county that
wanted a membership, we provide a

986
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:41,760
subsidy for that. I don't know if
there's legality in doing it that way.

987
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:45,920
Um
but if if the determination is that the

988
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:52,000
benefit is so great that we can't let
the business close. Mhm.

989
01:16:48,719 --> 01:16:58,960
» I would rather see the benefit provided
to all taxpayers as opposed to

990
01:16:56,640 --> 01:17:01,760
scrunching down the costs as much as we
can to benefit a smaller group of

991
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:04,480
people,
>> right?

992
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:07,280
» Maybe that's wild. Maybe maybe that's
not not practical.

993
01:17:05,679 --> 01:17:10,880
» No, I mean, honestly, it was it was
thrown around the last time we dealt

994
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:15,679
with this was a way a way to offer to
the community, you know. Um I I don't

995
01:17:13,679 --> 01:17:19,760
recall that conversation in full. It
didn't sound like it was maybe more

996
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:22,400
complicated
and and [snorts] I'm looking to you, the

997
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:28,080
owner, because I I believe that was
discussed last time. Um I don't remember

998
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:32,480
there being a
That's an awesome idea.

999
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:37,679
» Are you specifically suggesting the
county buy the gym and operate it like

1000
01:17:36,239 --> 01:17:41,440
such as the swimming pool? Is that what
you're suggesting? No, I'm I'm

1001
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:46,800
suggesting kind of like the dump voucher
system where residents would be able to

1002
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:48,719
access some sort of uh credit that they
could then use towards membership at the

1003
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:52,880
gym.
>> Oh, gotcha. I'm open to whatever ideas

1004
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:57,199
you have.
>> Okay. Okay. Now, I'm I just want to be

1005
01:17:55,760 --> 01:18:03,600
clear here because the last time that
was brought up, I think the issue was um

1006
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:09,040
can't absorb the increase. Don't know
how many people are going to join. Yep.

1007
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:12,960
» Um, is that is the appetite changed? Are
you willing to look at something like

1008
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:17,600
that? If I remember the discussion last
time, it was uncertainty of who would

1009
01:18:15,679 --> 01:18:23,320
join, who would take advantage because
if the rent goes up and people don't

1010
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:23,320
take advantage of the vouchers,

1011
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:30,320
and you haven't increased any revenue to
cover that increase in rent,

1012
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:35,679
» I guess.
>> No. So when we talked about this last

1013
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:42,400
time, the idea was thrown around. Um the
feedback I thought I got was that it was

1014
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:46,320
too there were no certainties as to an
increase in membership and therefore you

1015
01:18:44,719 --> 01:18:52,480
would not be able to absorb the increase
in rent without knowing you had x amount

1016
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:56,719
of people paying a membership fee.
Because if based on what vice chairman's

1017
01:18:54,560 --> 01:19:01,120
talking about, you know, if we offer,
hey, you want to join the gym, it's 25

1018
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:04,800
bucks off your monthly rental. you know,
your monthly membership, there's still

1019
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:11,040
no guarantee people are going to do it.
So then now your rent is raised,

1020
01:19:07,440 --> 01:19:14,080
assuming we're on vice chairman's track,
you're now paying 2,700 bucks a month.

1021
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:17,520
You don't have an increase in
membership.

1022
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:21,199
Who's going to absorb that that
>> right? But like what are you doing for

1023
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:23,840
all the existing members giving them a
$25 voucher?

1024
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:26,480
» Yep.
>> Because that's fair.

1025
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:31,360
» It' be a county res every county
resident would have the option.

1026
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:35,360
» Yeah, Mr. Chairman, I'm not sure if it's
fair to to ask for an opinion from Jesse

1027
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:39,199
at this point because I think we need to
do some projections, right, and see,

1028
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:41,679
well, what if this if if this happens,
is this what do those numbers look like?

1029
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:44,640
And so, it's
>> I just want to make sure the appetite's

1030
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:46,080
even there because last time it didn't
seem like it,

1031
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:49,520
» right?
>> I just don't want to waste time if

1032
01:19:47,440 --> 01:19:56,560
there's no desire to look at
>> Well, my desire is to keep a gym in some

1033
01:19:53,520 --> 01:20:01,000
shape or form up here for the community.
Okay.

1034
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:01,000
» Thank you.

1035
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:07,600
So, are you prepared to make a motion?
Would you like Commissioner Dylan to

1036
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:12,800
make a motion?
>> Um, well, if you're comfortable with us

1037
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:15,440
uh instructing staff to explore that as
an idea,

1038
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:17,120
» I'm happy to make a motion to continue.
That's easy enough.

1039
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:19,199
» Okay.
>> We do need to give directions.

1040
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:23,280
» Sure.
>> Okay. Y

1041
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:25,760
» do we want to acknowledge the
controller?

1042
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:29,920
» Oh, did you have others?
>> I have one more thing. I'm sorry.

1043
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:34,880
Please. Um, while I understand that we
are [snorts] talking about what the

1044
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:39,679
owner of this business can afford, um,
to keep the gym open, that there are no

1045
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:44,480
guarantees that if she backs out of
owning the gym that no one else will

1046
01:20:41,440 --> 01:20:47,520
take it over, um, I do think while
unconventional

1047
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:52,239
that
having her open her books to prove that

1048
01:20:49,440 --> 01:20:56,320
this is not a for-profit business might
be something that we need to look into

1049
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:59,760
to ensure that we are not just
supplementing ing a business that's

1050
01:20:58,239 --> 01:21:04,960
already making money.
>> It's interesting you mentioned that. I

1051
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:12,239
had asked earlier this morning um if
that was something that maybe staff

1052
01:21:07,199 --> 01:21:16,719
could could look at to exactly basically
what you're saying. You know, staff can

1053
01:21:14,159 --> 01:21:21,920
confirm, hey, this is a, you know, an
ongoing

1054
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:27,840
uh not really profiting business. Um if
that would, you know, maybe appease some

1055
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:34,600
folks. Um, but I I would ask the deputy
DA if that's um are we able to make that

1056
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:34,600
request.

1057
01:21:35,679 --> 01:21:42,480
» Can you can you rephrase the request?
>> So, one of the

1058
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:47,679
one [clears throat] of the issues was
that um there isn't a lot of profit in

1059
01:21:45,199 --> 01:21:53,040
this business. And I know that I have
been asked [snorts] um is it really not

1060
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:56,320
profitable? Um and I think that's
basically the same thing you're saying.

1061
01:21:54,400 --> 01:22:03,280
If we're subsidizing this business, is
it really not a profitable business?

1062
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:07,199
» I don't know how else to phrase that.
>> If it's not a profitable business, and

1063
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:11,840
that's what we're basing the rent on,
can we see the books? This is something

1064
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:13,840
we do regularly with our nonprofits that
we do subsidize,

1065
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:18,080
» right?
>> They have to show us, you know, what

1066
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:22,719
they spent the previous years and their
various, not their tax forms. I can't

1067
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:27,440
think of the name of the tax form, but
if this is truly a nonprofit business

1068
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:31,280
after 10 years,
it's not up to us to tell them to shut

1069
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:34,800
down or to keep moving. But if we're
going to subsidize it, I think our

1070
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:39,400
taxpayers have a right to know that this
is actually not a profitable business.

1071
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:46,000
» At no point have I ever said I was a
nonprofit. For the record,

1072
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:49,840
» not nonprofit. In the previous
discussion, it was stated that there

1073
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:53,679
isn't, you know, I I'm not going to say
breaking even, but that was the

1074
01:22:51,440 --> 01:22:58,480
impression that we all were under.
>> Okay. So, maybe that's that my

1075
01:22:55,920 --> 01:23:02,639
understanding that you want to find what
that point is to make sure I'm not

1076
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:05,679
making any money and that's where you're
going to set the rent.

1077
01:23:04,239 --> 01:23:10,560
» I don't I don't know that it has to do
with where to set the rent. I mean, um,

1078
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:15,280
the again to to bring this back three
years ago, um, the discussion was that

1079
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:20,880
we can't increase the rent because there
isn't much margin of profit in this

1080
01:23:18,480 --> 01:23:26,400
business. And so I think what the
comproller is trying to say is, you

1081
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:34,800
know, if there really isn't
money being made from the business, it

1082
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:38,040
may be easier to justify the the subsidy
of rent.

1083
01:23:38,480 --> 01:23:47,199
My whole thought here is any increase in
the rent, I have to increase my dues,

1084
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:51,520
which is
the county taking more money from the

1085
01:23:49,679 --> 01:23:58,560
residents, your constituents, your
taxpayers, and putting it back into the

1086
01:23:54,159 --> 01:24:01,560
county. That's all this is doing.
>> Okay,

1087
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:09,880
Brian, didn't mean to cut you off. Was
there something you wanted to add?

1088
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:19,840
» All right. So, at this point,
>> yeah, Brian, you're still on.

1089
01:24:17,199 --> 01:24:22,840
» I do want to hear.
>> Yes.

1090
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:29,639
» Yes. But we can hear some other
background noise. Brian.

1091
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:42,080
Can you hear me now? Is this better?
>> Yes.

1092
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:49,040
» All right. Um, it's certainly within the
board's discretion to to request access

1093
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:53,679
to the um financial information of the
business in order to make this decision.

1094
01:24:51,440 --> 01:24:59,440
Um, that would be done through staff and
we would make appropriate considerations

1095
01:24:57,040 --> 01:25:05,280
um to make sure that information that
would be confident remain confidential

1096
01:25:02,239 --> 01:25:09,520
but be
a decision on financial issues.

1097
01:25:07,679 --> 01:25:11,440
» All right. Thank you, Brian. County
manager, did you have something you

1098
01:25:10,719 --> 01:25:16,639
wanted to say?
>> My question was related to something if

1099
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:20,320
Brian was not able to join in and he
did. So, I am good.

1100
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:25,840
» Great. Anybody else want to say
something before you?

1101
01:25:23,199 --> 01:25:30,480
» Okay. Are you prepared to make a motion?
>> Um, yeah. I'm I'm I'm happy to I

1102
01:25:28,719 --> 01:25:32,960
certainly don't I want everyone to I
want everyone to have as much time as

1103
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:36,719
they need to make the decision. So I
don't I don't want to rush it.

1104
01:25:34,639 --> 01:25:41,280
» Um
>> and if it's all right, I'd like to as

1105
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:45,600
part of that motion instruct staff to
look at some alternative arrangements

1106
01:25:44,159 --> 01:25:50,239
and interface with the owner of the
business on what might be acceptable and

1107
01:25:48,239 --> 01:25:53,760
what's not. If it looks like there's
some pathways that are open,

1108
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:57,360
» then we can bring those back for
consideration. Um I don't certainly

1109
01:25:56,320 --> 01:26:01,920
don't want to leave the business in
limbo. I understand that that

1110
01:25:58,639 --> 01:26:06,400
uncertainty is not helpful and um and so
I don't I don't want to prolong that,

1111
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:09,920
but if there are paths that seem like a
win-win, I I think it's it's worth

1112
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:12,320
taking a little bit of time to consider
those.

1113
01:26:10,719 --> 01:26:16,480
» I agree.
>> So, so if that's all right, that's

1114
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:23,040
» that works for me.
>> Yeah. So,

1115
01:26:19,199 --> 01:26:30,639
um, I, Commissioner Mitchell, move to
continue this item, item number 11, to

1116
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:34,239
our next regularly scheduled meeting on
uh, September 15th here at the

1117
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:40,320
courthouse and in the interim to
instruct staff to uh, to discuss with

1118
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:46,719
the business owner and internally
potential alternative structures to uh,

1119
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:49,679
look at viability for the business as
discussed on the record.

1120
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:53,600
» Do you mind if I ask, Mr. Chairman, that
the items that were discussed during

1121
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:57,120
this meeting and proposed be part of
those so we at least have some guard

1122
01:26:55,280 --> 01:27:00,320
rails and some structure in our
conversations?

1123
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:05,280
» That works for me.
>> Yeah, I I think using the discussion

1124
01:27:03,199 --> 01:27:09,440
that we've had today as guidance for for
those discussions.

1125
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:13,960
» Thank you, Austin.
>> Okay, there's a motion on the floor.

1126
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:18,960
There's a motion and a second. All those
in favor signify by saying I.

1127
01:27:18,480 --> 01:27:21,440
» I.
>> I.

1128
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:25,360
» I.
>> Motion passes unanimously.

1129
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:28,600
» Thank you, Jesse. Thank you, Jennifer.
Thank you, Lisa.

1130
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:34,719
» Moving on to item number 12 is
discussion for possible action. Uh,

1131
01:27:32,639 --> 01:27:38,480
consideration and possible action on the
business impact statement for a change

1132
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:44,480
story county code ordinance repealing
and replacing portions of Story County

1133
01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:48,960
Code, chapter 5.04, 04 5.12
8.28

1134
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:52,960
uh to modernize and reorganize county
business and liquor licensing

1135
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:56,800
regulations, clarify definitions,
application requirements, enforcement

1136
01:27:55,440 --> 01:28:01,199
authority, and administrative
procedures. Laura,

1137
01:27:58,639 --> 01:28:07,920
» thank you. Laura Mather for the record.
Um so this business impact statement is

1138
01:28:04,639 --> 01:28:11,840
um here for your review and approval.
So, anytime we make changes to a story

1139
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:15,360
county code that would affect a
business, whether positive or negative,

1140
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:20,239
we are required to do a business impact
statement. Um,

1141
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:24,719
so this one was done done a little bit
differently because um for our first

1142
01:28:22,159 --> 01:28:30,480
reading of these sections, we had some
changes. The business impact statement

1143
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:36,639
um as it is today reflects those changes
that were recommended by this board

1144
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:41,120
during first reading. So, um section
5.04 04.100's

1145
01:28:38,719 --> 01:28:44,719
temporary sellers permit. Um we
clarified the language so that people

1146
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:47,920
know that if they have an existing
business license and they're going to

1147
01:28:46,239 --> 01:28:55,199
sell the same item, they don't need to
get a temporary sellers permit. Um it

1148
01:28:51,920 --> 01:29:00,800
also added um in section 5.04.130,
4.130.

1149
01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:06,159
It added that um vacation rentals or
short-term rentals um the owner has

1150
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:10,639
discretion to require um a minimum age
of 25.

1151
01:29:08,159 --> 01:29:14,719
Section 5.04.240
changed professional partnerships from

1152
01:29:12,719 --> 01:29:19,360
each partner requiring a business
license to that business requiring a

1153
01:29:17,440 --> 01:29:25,199
business license.
Um section 5.12.100

1154
01:29:22,239 --> 01:29:32,960
liquor license fees and regulations.
Um I added the fees that were listed in

1155
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:38,239
the general fees down to that specific
section. Those fees that have to do with

1156
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:44,639
liquor licensing.
Um section 5.12.100

1157
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:48,800
we added that um all alcoholic beverages
for off-sale consumption must be sold in

1158
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:54,159
the original manufactured sealed
container.

1159
01:29:50,800 --> 01:30:00,639
Um section 5.12.170
beer and wine licensing we added um

1160
01:29:57,679 --> 01:30:07,679
cider to that.
to that same section. Um, we added the

1161
01:30:03,679 --> 01:30:11,840
the notification process to um the
neighboring

1162
01:30:09,199 --> 01:30:18,080
um community based on the full business,
the full liquor licensing.

1163
01:30:15,199 --> 01:30:24,080
Um, under the definitions for that
section, cider was added as defined in

1164
01:30:21,440 --> 01:30:30,320
NRS 597.240
240 subsection 6 and then added the word

1165
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:35,440
cider throughout the document where it
was appropriate.

1166
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:41,280
Section 8.28.025
alcoholic beverages for offsale premises

1167
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:46,800
that was expanded to include
um so it was originally only in it was

1168
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:51,679
originally that outdoor was not allowed.
So that was changed to off- premises

1169
01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:55,600
sales involving alcoholic beverages may
be conducted outdoors within a

1170
01:30:53,440 --> 01:31:01,040
specifically designated area approved
for the event provided that such sales

1171
01:30:58,239 --> 01:31:06,239
are limited to um attendees of the
event. So, I just want to make sure so

1172
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:09,600
these obviously the board will will be
able to review when I do the second

1173
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:13,920
reading of those chapters. That will be
done the first meeting of October. But I

1174
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:18,000
wanted to make sure that you knew that
um all of your recommendations were

1175
01:31:15,679 --> 01:31:22,480
added to that and they are now in that
business impact statement.

1176
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:27,040
So, if approved, the county manager will
sign it. Um it will be available on our

1177
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:35,280
website. It will be available in the
clerk treasur's office. We have five um

1178
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:39,679
vacation short-term rental entities with
business licenses.

1179
01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:44,239
Um I will mail each one of them um a
copy as along with our chamber of

1180
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:49,280
commerce.
While I'm talking about that, I do want

1181
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:53,520
to take kind of a little side note and
remind

1182
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:59,600
property owners in Story County that if
they have their property listed on um a

1183
01:31:56,880 --> 01:32:04,639
website such as Airbnb, that does
require a business license and not all

1184
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:08,719
areas of Story County is that zoned. So,
I think it's important that um our

1185
01:32:07,199 --> 01:32:13,440
property owners know that and they can
obviously reach out to community

1186
01:32:11,440 --> 01:32:18,960
development to to clarify whether or not
they need a business license.

1187
01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:22,000
I'm happy to answer any questions.
>> All right. Thank you, Commissioner

1188
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:25,000
Gilman. Do you have any questions or
comments?

1189
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:30,320
» No. Thank you,
>> Vice Chairman.

1190
01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:33,440
» Um, no. Thank you. Thanks. Thanks for
getting those updates made.

1191
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:36,639
» Yeah, that was I was going to say the
same thing. Thank you for getting those

1192
01:32:34,719 --> 01:32:40,560
changes made. Um, is there any public
comment at this time regarding this

1193
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:43,440
item?
Not seeing any. Vice Chairman, you

1194
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:46,719
prepare to make a motion?
>> Yeah. I, Commissioner Mitchell, move to

1195
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:50,880
continue consideration of the business
impact statement for a change to Story

1196
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:56,000
County Code ordinance repealing and
replacing portions of Story County Code

1197
01:32:52,639 --> 01:33:01,120
Chapters 5.04 business licenses, 5.12
sale of alcoholic beverages, and 8.28 28

1198
01:32:58,239 --> 01:33:05,040
special events to modernize and
reorganize county business and liquor

1199
01:33:03,199 --> 01:33:08,800
licensing regulations. Clarify
definitions, application requirements,

1200
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:13,040
enforcement authority, and
administrative procedures. Establish

1201
01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:16,719
updated provisions for temporary
licenses, temporary seller permits,

1202
01:33:15,199 --> 01:33:21,440
recordkeeping, compliance, and
revocation standards. Revise special

1203
01:33:19,440 --> 01:33:25,840
event and alcoholrelated permitting
requirements. Authorize the owner or

1204
01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:31,199
operator of a short-term vacation rental
to establish a minimum renter age of 25

1205
01:33:28,639 --> 01:33:35,040
years at the owner's discretion subject
to applicable identification and notice

1206
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:40,560
requirements and provide for other
matters properly relating there too.

1207
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:42,560
» May I interrupt before you proceed?
>> Sure.

1208
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:46,239
» Lara Mather for the record. So I just
wanted to clarify um in case there's any

1209
01:33:44,639 --> 01:33:50,719
question the language is a little bit
different in this recommended motion and

1210
01:33:48,480 --> 01:33:54,320
that's because hopefully it's a very
slim chance but there is a chance that

1211
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:57,120
when we do second reading there might be
some recommended changes and that's why

1212
01:33:55,840 --> 01:34:00,800
the language is a little bit different
in the motion.

1213
01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:04,159
» Okay,
clear with that.

1214
01:34:02,239 --> 01:34:10,040
» Yeah. Well, I mean properly related
there too related there too. [laughter]

1215
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:10,040
» All right.

1216
01:34:10,719 --> 01:34:16,000
There was a motion.
>> I'll second.

1217
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:18,159
» There's a motion and a second. All those
in favor signify by saying I.

1218
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:20,560
» I.
>> I.

1219
01:34:20,239 --> 01:34:22,719
» I.
>> Motion passes unanimously. Thank you,

1220
01:34:22,239 --> 01:34:25,040
Laura.
>> Thank you.

1221
01:34:23,440 --> 01:34:28,239
» Moving on to item number 13. This
discussion for possible action.

1222
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:32,639
discussion and possible action on
submission of a letter of support to the

1223
01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:37,040
Nevada Board of Museum and History for
the nomination of Miners Union Hall

1224
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:42,000
located at 34 North B, Virginia City,
Nevada to be placed on the Nevada State

1225
01:34:39,199 --> 01:34:47,120
Register of Historic Places. Sarah,
>> uh Sarah starts for the record, just a

1226
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:51,520
quick note, the address is uh 36 North B
Street. So, the staff summary in the

1227
01:34:49,199 --> 01:34:54,480
packet is correct, but I believe what
you just read was incorrect. And then

1228
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:59,920
the motion is incorrect. So if you can
just make a note of that.

1229
01:34:56,639 --> 01:35:03,280
» So the Comtock area 523, the Fraternal
Order of the Eagles have been working

1230
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:06,880
hard to get their property miners union
hall located at 36 North Bay Street

1231
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:10,639
nominated to the state register of
historic places. The nomination will be

1232
01:35:09,199 --> 01:35:14,480
reviewed by the Nevada Board of Museums
and History during their September 11th

1233
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:17,920
meeting at the Nevada State Museum in
Carson City. I believe the uh the

1234
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:21,360
meeting is going to start at 9:00, but
the agenda hasn't been posted yet. Um so

1235
01:35:20,239 --> 01:35:25,600
please keep your eyes out for that just
in case that time is not correct. Um,

1236
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:28,719
and so Audi Robinson, he is an ARY
member and he wrote a nice piece on the

1237
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:33,600
hall that was published in the Comot
Chronicle on January 26th this year and

1238
01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:37,520
it's available online to read for free.
So I'm just going to give a brief

1239
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:41,199
overview of his article. So Miners Union
Hall was built in 1876 after the

1240
01:35:39,840 --> 01:35:46,000
original was burned down in the great
fire of 1875. And the hall became an

1241
01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:49,760
important civic and social space. The
ground floor served as an assembly hall

1242
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:53,600
for meetings, lectures, and events,
while the upper floors housed the Miners

1243
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:57,440
Union Library that was established in
1877.

1244
01:35:55,280 --> 01:36:02,080
By the early 1880s, the library held
2200 volumes and was right widely

1245
01:35:59,920 --> 01:36:06,320
regarded as Virginia City's only public
library with reading and chess rooms,

1246
01:36:04,159 --> 01:36:11,199
further supporting the hall's role in
community um and education. The

1247
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:14,480
Comtock's mining industry declined in
the late 1870s, as I'm sure we're all

1248
01:36:12,719 --> 01:36:19,760
aware, but the Miners Union Hall
remained an active gathering place. In

1249
01:36:17,199 --> 01:36:24,320
1926, ownership passed to Comtock area
523, Fraternal Order of Eagles,

1250
01:36:22,239 --> 01:36:28,239
continuing the building's institutional
and social role. Today, the area meets

1251
01:36:26,639 --> 01:36:31,280
Weekly, maintaining the hall's long
tradition as a community gathering

1252
01:36:29,440 --> 01:36:34,480
place. So, I'm not good at math, but
they've been operating it since 1926, so

1253
01:36:33,199 --> 01:36:38,480
that's 100 years, so that's pretty
amazing. So, Minor's Union Hall is an

1254
01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:41,760
important historic resource, and this is
well-deserved recognition for the

1255
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:46,320
property's historic significance and
contribution to Nevada's history. The

1256
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:49,920
listing of Miners Union Hall on the
state register of historic places will

1257
01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:53,760
not place limitations on private
property. The state will not attach

1258
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:58,080
restrictive covenants nor seek to
acquire properties as a condition or

1259
01:36:55,920 --> 01:37:01,679
result of the listing. And the property
owners are not required to open their

1260
01:36:59,840 --> 01:37:05,280
property to the public. So, for these
reasons, I believe it is appropriate to

1261
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:08,639
request that the commissioner support
the nomination and listing of this

1262
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:13,360
important building by submitting a
letter of support. Thank you.

1263
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:17,239
» Thank you, Sarah. Commissioner Gilman,
do you have any questions or comments?

1264
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:22,239
» Vice Chairman,
>> I do not either. Thank you.

1265
01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:24,719
» Is there any public comment?
Not seeing any. Vice Sherman, you

1266
01:37:23,679 --> 01:37:27,840
prepared to make a motion?
>> Yeah. I, Commissioner Mitchell, move to

1267
01:37:26,239 --> 01:37:31,040
approve the submission of a letter of
support to the Nevada Board of Museums

1268
01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:36,560
and History for the nomination of the
Miners Union Hall located at 36B Street,

1269
01:37:34,480 --> 01:37:41,159
Virginia City, Nevada, to be placed on
the Nevada State Register of Historic

1270
01:37:38,159 --> 01:37:41,159
Places.

1271
01:37:41,679 --> 01:37:45,679
» Second.
>> There's a motion and a second. All those

1272
01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:48,880
in favor signify by saying I.
>> I.

1273
01:37:46,159 --> 01:37:53,679
» I.
>> Motion passes unanimously. Thank you,

1274
01:37:50,639 --> 01:37:57,119
Sarah. On item number 14, this is
discussion for possible action.

1275
01:37:55,520 --> 01:38:01,480
Consideration of possible approval of
grant of easement file 2026-038

1276
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:08,320
from Story County to Envy Energy for
utility facilities within the Sam Clemen

1277
01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:12,960
Street right ofway in Mark Twain, Story
County, Nevada to uh facilitate a home

1278
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:17,600
build. Kathy,
>> uh yes, thank you. So um we've been

1279
01:38:15,440 --> 01:38:21,920
reached out by MB Energy and the
property owner that's wanting to develop

1280
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:25,119
their property. Um the electric
electricity is across the street. So

1281
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:30,719
they're needing an easement to bring
that electricity across San Clemens. So

1282
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:33,520
public works has also reviewed this and
county staff and we don't have any

1283
01:38:32,239 --> 01:38:36,560
concerns.
>> All right. Thank you Kathy. Commissioner

1284
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:39,560
Gilman, do you have any questions or
comments?

1285
01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:44,239
» Vice Chairman?
>> No. Thanks.

1286
01:38:41,119 --> 01:38:47,520
» Is there [snorts] any public comment?
>> Not seeing any. Vice Chairman, you

1287
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:50,480
prepare to make a motion?
>> I am. Uh, in accordance with the

1288
01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:55,360
recommendation by staff, I, Commissioner
Mitchell, move to approve the grant of

1289
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:58,719
easement filed 2026-038
from Story County to Envy Energy for

1290
01:38:57,280 --> 01:39:02,320
utility facilities within the Sam
Clement Street Ride ofway in Mark Lane

1291
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:05,560
Story County, Nevada to facilitate a
home building.

1292
01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:09,920
» Second.
>> There's a motion and a second. All those

1293
01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:12,400
in favor signify by saying I.
>> I.

1294
01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:14,719
» I.
I.

1295
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:20,480
» Motion passes unanimously. Thank you,
Kathy. On to item number 15. discussion

1296
01:39:18,159 --> 01:39:23,440
for possible action.
Consideration and approval of

1297
01:39:21,760 --> 01:39:29,280
modification to the planning department
2627 budget for professional services to

1298
01:39:26,639 --> 01:39:34,080
add a study for alternative uh
alternatives update to the Long Valley

1299
01:39:32,159 --> 01:39:38,560
Creek flood hazard mitigation plan
assigned budget funds for professional

1300
01:39:36,639 --> 01:39:42,400
services will be altered but no increase
in the professional services portion of

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01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:46,000
the planning department budget is
proposed. Kathy

1302
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:51,440
» uh thank you. So Kathy Campfield for the
record. Um, so staff is requesting that

1303
01:39:49,199 --> 01:39:57,679
we modify the professional services
portion of the planning department

1304
01:39:53,199 --> 01:40:01,600
budget to um adjust some of the assigned
dollar amounts to some of the different

1305
01:39:59,119 --> 01:40:06,320
projects so that we can add in a Long
Valley Creek alternatives update. Um

1306
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:11,520
what's been happening is we've been
working on uh trying to implement the

1307
01:40:09,440 --> 01:40:16,960
Long Valley Creek project that came up
and as we're implementing some of these

1308
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:23,520
we're finding there's some legal pro not
problems but legal

1309
01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:27,199
items to work through. There's um uh
real estate items to work through.

1310
01:40:25,679 --> 01:40:31,199
There's a lot of different things that
when we've when we've the engineers when

1311
01:40:29,440 --> 01:40:35,600
they're designing something weren't
really taking into consideration. Um, as

1312
01:40:34,159 --> 01:40:39,840
we've worked through more and more with
some of the different property owners,

1313
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:45,119
um, we've met with Jub Engineering who
authored that original um, document and

1314
01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:49,600
we've come up with even some more ideas
of some things based on all these other

1315
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:53,679
discussions that we've had. Um, at the
time um, when we were planning doing our

1316
01:40:51,920 --> 01:40:58,800
budgeting process that was back in
February [snorts] time period um, this

1317
01:40:56,560 --> 01:41:03,760
is coming out this was like May and
June. Um, so we're finding that this was

1318
01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:06,639
something that wasn't necessarily
overlooked, but it wasn't something that

1319
01:41:05,199 --> 01:41:11,679
was on our radar that we were going to
need to be doing. Um, so staff is

1320
01:41:09,440 --> 01:41:17,159
requesting that we adjust um the
planning department budget as it's shown

1321
01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:21,199
on page two of the um staff report
[clears throat]

1322
01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:25,679
and um also then we'll move forward with
with doing this alternative study with

1323
01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:29,840
JUB. So I'm happy to answer any
questions. We've worked with or talked

1324
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:34,320
with the comp to comp controller, um,
public works, emergency management, um,

1325
01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:37,520
the county commissioner's office.
There's a lot of different departments

1326
01:41:35,679 --> 01:41:41,840
and pieces that are kind of moving with
this, but ultimately we're trying to get

1327
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:46,159
something that we could truly implement
and make the community safer.

1328
01:41:44,480 --> 01:41:50,679
» All right. Thank you, Kathy.
Commissioner Gilman, do you have any

1329
01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:50,679
questions or comments?

1330
01:41:50,719 --> 01:41:55,360
» Vice Chairman.
>> Um, no. Well, land issues are

1331
01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:58,480
complicated. I'm shocked. I tell you
shocked. [laughter]

1332
01:41:57,040 --> 01:42:02,159
» Is there any public comment on this
item?

1333
01:42:00,719 --> 01:42:04,400
» Not seeing any vice chairman, are you
prepared to make a motion?

1334
01:42:03,280 --> 01:42:08,400
» I am. In accordance with the
recommendation by staff, I Commissioner

1335
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:10,880
Mitchell hereby move to modify the
planning department professional

1336
01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:14,719
services budget to include the Long
Valley Creek alternative update and to

1337
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:18,239
modify the budgeted dollar amounts
associated with the accessory dwelling

1338
01:42:16,639 --> 01:42:22,159
unit study in the easement acquisition
for Long Valley Creek.

1339
01:42:21,679 --> 01:42:25,520
» Second.
>> There's a motion and a second. All those

1340
01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:28,239
in favor signify by saying I.
>> I.

1341
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:30,560
» I.
>> I.

1342
01:42:28,719 --> 01:42:31,840
» Motion passes unanimously. Thank you,
Kathy.

1343
01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:35,679
» Thank you.
>> Uh we're going to revisit agenda item

1344
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:39,679
number 26 at this point. This is
discussion for possible action. uh

1345
01:42:38,239 --> 01:42:43,280
updates, discussion, and possible
direction to county staff and lobbyists

1346
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:47,040
regarding Story County's draft bill,
regarding economic development and tax

1347
01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:51,199
abatements for the 2027 Nevada
Legislature, as well as upcoming bills,

1348
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:54,560
legislation, and other legislative
matters potentially affecting Story

1349
01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:58,960
County.
>> All right. Thank you, Chairman Austin

1350
01:42:56,320 --> 01:43:03,440
Oburn, for the record. Also with me is
Will Adler for the record, and he'll be

1351
01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:07,440
discussing some things today with regard
to what you have in front of you. Uh in

1352
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:12,480
August the board had looked at our draft
BDR and made comments and suggestions.

1353
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:16,719
Since then our team has gotten together
to make those changes. Also had uh

1354
01:43:15,280 --> 01:43:21,600
several meetings with some folks
including the department of taxation and

1355
01:43:19,040 --> 01:43:25,679
I know others at the GOAD office and
others that might be involved in this to

1356
01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:30,080
try to coordinate and align ourselves
and make sure that what we ultimately

1357
01:43:27,360 --> 01:43:38,239
submit uh does have a chance for success
in the session. Uh at that time a draft

1358
01:43:34,320 --> 01:43:43,040
has been edited and amended up until
last night. Uh so right in front of you

1359
01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:47,920
you have a paper document and so does
the public in the back of the room. That

1360
01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:52,719
paper document still has wet ink and it
is going to have some of the edits that

1361
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:56,159
have been made since uh very recently.
Mr. Adler is going to come up and walk

1362
01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:59,920
you through all those. And I understand
there might be some deliberation that

1363
01:43:57,679 --> 01:44:04,159
might occur at this point to iron this
out, get it to what the board is

1364
01:44:01,600 --> 01:44:08,880
satisfied with. And then today is the
deadline for submitt to the legislative

1365
01:44:06,719 --> 01:44:13,600
council bureau with which we're quite
excited. So I'm going to pass the torch

1366
01:44:11,040 --> 01:44:17,679
over here to Will and be of assistance
otherwise. Thank you, Will.

1367
01:44:15,360 --> 01:44:21,600
» Thank you, Austin. Uh Will Adler for the
record with Silver State Government

1368
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:26,239
Relations. I'm your lobbyist, guys. Uh
today we're coming back for the third or

1369
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:30,880
fourth time. uh in this county
commission room discussing this

1370
01:44:27,679 --> 01:44:34,639
particular BDR looking towards the 2027
legislature. As Austin said, we actually

1371
01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:39,040
have to submit this today, September
1st. So, per usual, Story County is

1372
01:44:37,199 --> 01:44:42,560
bringing it down the wire up in the
drama, right? We can't just do things

1373
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:47,119
normal. We have to to do it here and
now. This is it, guys. But uh really the

1374
01:44:45,119 --> 01:44:50,960
the premise of the bill started as as a
pretty pretty broad one and a good one,

1375
01:44:48,719 --> 01:44:55,600
which is we are the receivers of and
maybe the beneficiaries of the Nevada

1376
01:44:53,199 --> 01:44:58,639
State Abatement Program more so than
anyone else in the the state. We

1377
01:44:57,199 --> 01:45:03,119
understand it better. We've had more of
them and we've completed the biggest of

1378
01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:07,840
them. We have Tesla 1, 2, and Redwood
nowadays. So it is one where we've had

1379
01:45:05,199 --> 01:45:12,880
success last year with SB69 and we sort
of labeled ourselves as the experts in

1380
01:45:10,400 --> 01:45:16,880
this space because not a lot of other
people have this knowledge or have to go

1381
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:21,280
through this. But to summarize this, the
bill itself is one where we called it

1382
01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:25,360
the omniabatement bill because we cover
all of chapter 360 which is known as the

1383
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:29,119
abatement bill and then the the tax
provisions around that. Uh but to

1384
01:45:27,280 --> 01:45:32,800
explain the draft in front of you, maybe
the the the funniest part is the side

1385
01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:37,199
note or something that we've brought up
secondarily of, you know, we shouldn't

1386
01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:41,040
actually look at having tax abatements
where data centers are located on

1387
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:44,400
federal land. Today, now they'll have a
quicker change process. It actually gets

1388
01:45:42,719 --> 01:45:48,080
around the special use permit for most
local governments and they they're the

1389
01:45:46,159 --> 01:45:51,679
beneficiary of the the federal policy to
build them there. Why would Nevada abate

1390
01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:55,840
them there? Right? So I think that's
actually has become a big premise of the

1391
01:45:54,000 --> 01:46:00,560
bill is where do we actually want to
abate and where do we not see benefits

1392
01:45:57,840 --> 01:46:04,159
abating as neatans. Uh and as such
section one of the bill does prevent the

1393
01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:09,440
abatements or granting of abatements in
all federal land but as such we actually

1394
01:46:07,119 --> 01:46:13,600
have to cite that section or that change
throughout the entirety of the language.

1395
01:46:11,199 --> 01:46:17,520
So you'll see sort of this reference to
banning of federal land or reference

1396
01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:20,880
section one brought up for almost the
entirety of this bill. So a lot a lot of

1397
01:46:19,440 --> 01:46:24,239
sections and chunks are kind of
secondary. I would say the major

1398
01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:29,600
sections are section four where we
actually look at data centers today what

1399
01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:33,600
those abatements are and kind of use our
own history and the the words on the

1400
01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:37,840
page today and say is that reflect data
centers we see today. Uh to date uh

1401
01:46:36,239 --> 01:46:42,239
we're not seeing data centers coming in
at $25 million anymore. In fact probably

1402
01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:46,800
the lightest dollar amount we see is
about $50 million or more. So we're

1403
01:46:44,719 --> 01:46:51,760
actually upping the total dollar amounts
25 to 50, 100 to 200 million. That theme

1404
01:46:50,159 --> 01:46:56,080
continues throughout this bill kind of
it in its entirety. So in in most

1405
01:46:54,239 --> 01:47:01,679
provisions and sections we we also said
the same thing. We have a good program

1406
01:46:59,040 --> 01:47:06,400
but is it sort of the right length andor
the right you know volume of program. So

1407
01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:10,239
we we kind of assessed the whole thing
where we have 10 years we kind of said

1408
01:47:08,480 --> 01:47:14,080
10 years is a long time let's cut it
down to five. Where we have 20 years

1409
01:47:12,159 --> 01:47:18,480
let's put it at 10. This actually puts
it within the realm of one elected

1410
01:47:16,159 --> 01:47:22,480
officials jurisdiction or timeline with
a county. Even your term limited 12

1411
01:47:20,639 --> 01:47:26,560
years, you might not even see the end of
an abatement that you approve or you

1412
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:30,639
won't literally today because they are
10 and 20 years out. This kind of is is

1413
01:47:28,960 --> 01:47:34,960
our own reflections and updates, but it
actually gives the the abatement bill a

1414
01:47:32,639 --> 01:47:38,320
lot of teeth and saying do not throw
that baby out with the bathwater. Look

1415
01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:41,600
at that baby and assess it and say,
"Hey, you know, maybe it's more

1416
01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:44,960
vegetables. This baby will be fine."
Right? that that's where we're at with

1417
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:49,920
the abatement program as a whole story
county looking at it but to to color

1418
01:47:47,440 --> 01:47:52,560
this uh data centers are reflected
differently in other people's bill

1419
01:47:51,040 --> 01:47:56,320
drafts to date we've heard that the
revenue committee is bringing forward so

1420
01:47:54,639 --> 01:48:00,080
as we know that the interim committees
of Nevada the Senate and the Assembly

1421
01:47:58,480 --> 01:48:03,760
has signed sort of the same committees
in the interim the interim revenue

1422
01:48:01,600 --> 01:48:07,520
committee of assembly and senators have
declared one of their bills will to

1423
01:48:05,199 --> 01:48:10,560
bring forth a moratorum on data center
abatements the continuation of data

1424
01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:16,560
center abatements that are kind of in
the pipeline and just moratorium on data

1425
01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:20,080
centers in one bill. We want to reflect
that there is abatements, yes, but

1426
01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:25,600
there's benefits to them and
modifications really are what this

1427
01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:29,679
program needs, not a full cut. To
continue that, uh, we do want to say, is

1428
01:48:28,159 --> 01:48:33,360
there more we could do to assess the
abments we have? Section five is

1429
01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:37,760
actually the section I would think is
most optional andor something that we

1430
01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:41,760
want to assess most closely. That's
where we actually are looking at the

1431
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:46,000
auditing of or sort of the timelines we
audit you know abatements today to date

1432
01:48:44,480 --> 01:48:49,920
they they check in kind of at their
two-year mark and they say we've begun

1433
01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:53,520
we now have to have healthcare going
that's sort of when they have to have

1434
01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:57,600
healthc care assigned by and then the
department of taxation actually audits

1435
01:48:55,040 --> 01:49:01,360
them for compliance health care jobs and
sort of general numbers that they put

1436
01:48:59,440 --> 01:49:04,880
forward in their abatement category and
they they conclude that at five years

1437
01:49:03,280 --> 01:49:08,239
and they say two years fiveyear
assessment we we kind of looked at the

1438
01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:12,719
whole of this and we said if we're
upping our abatements from 5 to 10 years

1439
01:49:10,560 --> 01:49:16,000
should the the audit also be 5 to 10
years? Th this is one where we actually

1440
01:49:14,719 --> 01:49:20,320
talked to the department of taxation and
they they said they're they're actually

1441
01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:24,400
auditing people today when they find a a
you know person not in compliance they

1442
01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:27,199
actually pull the abatements to date. If
somebody doesn't pay for health care,

1443
01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:30,320
somebody doesn't have the right jobs
numbers, they they they actually say

1444
01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:33,840
they have a pretty good track record of
addressing that. As such this might be

1445
01:49:32,480 --> 01:49:38,639
something that I feel is you know
secondary or optional because it's done

1446
01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:42,239
today. But we do have this idea of data
centers use too much power and they use

1447
01:49:40,480 --> 01:49:46,239
too much water. But is that something
that you know we want to audit in this

1448
01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:51,119
bill and that's where I I kind of say
maybe not because to date uh I think

1449
01:49:48,719 --> 01:49:55,440
people are kind of wholly unaware of how
government works. But you can't actually

1450
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:59,760
start most buildings without an air
permit and a wastewater permit here in

1451
01:49:57,440 --> 01:50:03,679
Nevada. if it's new, if they're building
it, DCNR,

1452
01:50:02,320 --> 01:50:08,480
Department of Conservation, Natural
Resources, actually is the the regulator

1453
01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:13,440
of basically what's wet and what's
shocking in Nevada. So, I I do think if

1454
01:50:11,199 --> 01:50:17,600
we did include this, it might actually
string us into grabbing more chapters of

1455
01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:21,040
law, more NRS, and weighing down the
bill a little. And secondarily, it it

1456
01:50:19,679 --> 01:50:24,320
will cause a fiscal note. If you're
doing something new, if you have new

1457
01:50:22,159 --> 01:50:28,480
audits, things like that, it it will
cause a cost and some weight to it. So I

1458
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:32,480
think it has great value to sort of say
we want to update the audits or look at

1459
01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:36,080
those with what we're also doing. But I
also think today and now that might be

1460
01:50:34,400 --> 01:50:39,760
for someone else to bring forward. The
governor himself has said he wants to

1461
01:50:37,520 --> 01:50:43,760
assess the power in the water. If it has
a fiscal note attached to it, the number

1462
01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:47,360
one way to pass that bill is have the
governor's name on it. I've learned

1463
01:50:45,600 --> 01:50:50,080
that. So that that's where I think that
that's maybe the riskiest section. But

1464
01:50:49,040 --> 01:50:54,560
the rest of it actually is
all-encompassing goes well. Noticing is

1465
01:50:52,639 --> 01:50:58,560
it's kind of simple in section six.
Section seven. We we we sort of just

1466
01:50:56,800 --> 01:51:02,400
again click click click through all the
federal land provisions but the

1467
01:51:00,400 --> 01:51:07,760
timelines are updated again. We do want
it for you know personal property taxes.

1468
01:51:05,040 --> 01:51:12,960
Same thing reasonable 10 years goes to
five 20 goes to 10. So and then the

1469
01:51:11,040 --> 01:51:17,679
final one that's really kind of more
encompassing or something that is there

1470
01:51:14,960 --> 01:51:22,960
for what we've seen as a county on the
ground working but not wholly applied is

1471
01:51:21,040 --> 01:51:27,040
section 12 is where you actually have
sales and use tax abatements. how

1472
01:51:25,119 --> 01:51:32,080
contractors are able to apply those and
use those has blended well with a larger

1473
01:51:29,679 --> 01:51:35,920
operation like Tesla and Panasonic you
can colllocate you can have at different

1474
01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:39,520
operations and continual growth but with
some data centers and other contractors

1475
01:51:37,520 --> 01:51:42,800
they're using they're buying things on
the front end because they have to

1476
01:51:41,280 --> 01:51:46,239
honestly if you're going to power
something you had to buy your

1477
01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:49,920
transformers about four years ago some
contractors are able to to bring this

1478
01:51:48,080 --> 01:51:53,920
forward but not actually be under the
same tax abatement it's very very sort

1479
01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:57,119
of niche tax policy but hearing from
those in the park and others. This would

1480
01:51:55,840 --> 01:52:01,199
be a great provision to bring forward,
but it would be one we we'd have to say

1481
01:51:59,440 --> 01:52:06,000
this is for others to explain, right? If
that that collocation is going to be the

1482
01:52:03,920 --> 01:52:09,280
benefit of the contractor and the
abatement holder, we need them to

1483
01:52:08,080 --> 01:52:12,400
actually come to the table and defend
it. It's us to bring it forward and say

1484
01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:17,040
this is an update that would work, but
we think that'll bring out a lot of the

1485
01:52:13,679 --> 01:52:20,320
abatementes. Goed,
>> what's Edon called now?

1486
01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:25,440
» Northern
>> that disrupted my whole speech. Ed on

1487
01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:29,040
and NNDA. So I I think that's where
we'll get the the co coalition of folks

1488
01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:32,400
who actually know abatements and talk
about what they're hearing on the ground

1489
01:52:30,719 --> 01:52:37,199
to to come forward is things like
section 12. So overall I've talked too

1490
01:52:34,960 --> 01:52:41,119
much. This is a big bill. It has a a
multicompassing omnibatement features to

1491
01:52:39,280 --> 01:52:44,880
it. But really I think there's there's
sort of a question of you know we want

1492
01:52:43,199 --> 01:52:49,520
to touch abatements and and educate
everyone and make them look at each

1493
01:52:46,239 --> 01:52:53,520
section but maybe we don't uh need the
audit section. I'll point out just

1494
01:52:50,960 --> 01:52:58,719
because I I do fear a fiscal note and I
I do want to make sure we're we're doing

1495
01:52:55,840 --> 01:53:03,599
something that's as unimpeachably,
you know, neutral and and talk about the

1496
01:53:01,360 --> 01:53:06,480
subject as a whole and not, you know,
leaning on something where someone might

1497
01:53:04,960 --> 01:53:11,119
say, "I already got audited at year
five. If this passes, do I get audited

1498
01:53:08,880 --> 01:53:14,880
again in year 10?" And then we just, you
know, have to explain the niches. That

1499
01:53:13,119 --> 01:53:19,360
really isn't the point is we just want
the whole being updated. That's my

1500
01:53:17,199 --> 01:53:23,360
speech. Thank you very much. Uh any
questions or conversation? I'd love to

1501
01:53:21,840 --> 01:53:27,119
continue
right here. Thank you.

1502
01:53:25,040 --> 01:53:31,840
» All right. Thanks, Will. Commissioner
Gilman, do you have any questions or

1503
01:53:28,239 --> 01:53:35,280
comments at this time?
>> Not at this time.

1504
01:53:33,040 --> 01:53:42,080
» Vice Chairman,
>> um I I I do want to really uh compliment

1505
01:53:39,599 --> 01:53:47,040
the team on, you know, pounding through
this, really thinking it through. Um, I

1506
01:53:45,119 --> 01:53:52,400
think there is, you know, Will makes a
great point. There is a a decision to be

1507
01:53:49,520 --> 01:53:56,880
made about this this audit function. The
thinking the thinking and including it

1508
01:53:54,400 --> 01:54:02,000
originally was that one of the
complaints is that there's not um the

1509
01:53:59,760 --> 01:54:07,920
level of transparency
around compliance, resource usage,

1510
01:54:05,280 --> 01:54:13,599
economic benefits, and those kind of
things from those that avail themselves

1511
01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:17,520
of the of the component of the program.
And so that was our thinking in

1512
01:54:15,280 --> 01:54:22,000
including this audit component. That
being said, you got to get a bill across

1513
01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:28,159
the finish line. And so the the question
is, does that introduce an element that

1514
01:54:24,800 --> 01:54:33,679
will create push back? Um
or is it valuable enough on the flip

1515
01:54:30,560 --> 01:54:36,880
side in creating that transparency that
other people are going to say, "Yeah,

1516
01:54:35,360 --> 01:54:41,119
that's the direction we should be moving
and enthusiastically back it." And uh

1517
01:54:39,679 --> 01:54:46,560
and as will mentioned, there are
potentially other sources of bills that

1518
01:54:43,360 --> 01:54:53,840
may be able to address that piece. Uh we
did also in the latest revision of that

1519
01:54:48,719 --> 01:54:59,760
audit piece, we did give permission
>> for the um the office of economic

1520
01:54:57,280 --> 01:55:04,960
development who is kind of being tasked
with this to

1521
01:55:01,840 --> 01:55:10,880
hire a third party, qualified accounting
firm or someone to come in and do that

1522
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:16,560
as opposed to putting that directly on
the backs of state employees. And so a

1523
01:55:14,159 --> 01:55:21,520
fiscal note represents a direct cost to
an agency typically. And that's that's

1524
01:55:19,119 --> 01:55:26,159
what can often cause some headwinds for
a bill. And so that was an effort to

1525
01:55:24,159 --> 01:55:30,800
mitigate that to say, "Hey, we're not
going to put a a big new burden on the

1526
01:55:28,080 --> 01:55:35,280
Department of Taxation or some other
state agency, but that they could use

1527
01:55:33,520 --> 01:55:38,000
third parties and and potentially I
don't I don't remember if we put this in

1528
01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:44,400
here or not, but potentially it's paid
for by the abated company um that to

1529
01:55:41,840 --> 01:55:48,800
gather that information." And one of the
other things that surfaced as we talked

1530
01:55:45,679 --> 01:55:55,119
to different agencies was the potential
that the perceived lack of transparency

1531
01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:58,960
or the lack of reporting may not be that
it that auditing is not being done. It

1532
01:55:57,440 --> 01:56:04,480
may just be that it's not being well
communicated back to the public. And so

1533
01:56:02,639 --> 01:56:09,280
we were assured that compliance is is
being assured by Department of Taxation.

1534
01:56:07,199 --> 01:56:14,920
And then eventually the results of that
shows up in a byian annual report of

1535
01:56:11,920 --> 01:56:14,920
goad.

1536
01:56:27,679 --> 01:56:32,560
» Thank you for that moment of not
silence. Please continue.

1537
01:56:31,040 --> 01:56:34,639
» Yeah.
Go ahead.

1538
01:56:33,440 --> 01:56:37,920
» Hopefully it's not a moment of silence
for

1539
01:56:36,790 --> 01:56:42,880
» [laughter]
>> Um so so there was a thought that

1540
01:56:40,880 --> 01:56:46,639
potentially we could achieve greater
transparency or greater disclosure

1541
01:56:45,199 --> 01:56:50,239
simply by some administrative
adjustments internally within the the

1542
01:56:48,639 --> 01:56:54,800
the
groups that deal with this information

1543
01:56:52,320 --> 01:56:58,880
as opposed to creating a statutory
requirement for an audit of five years

1544
01:56:57,280 --> 01:57:01,920
an audit of 10 years which doesn't
currently exist.

1545
01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:06,719
» So that's that's kind of one of the
decisions that we need to make. Um, I

1546
01:57:05,040 --> 01:57:11,360
feel very confident with the other parts
of the bill. There may be continued

1547
01:57:08,719 --> 01:57:15,760
conversation between us submitting and
getting to the beginning of session or

1548
01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:19,520
we may need to massage things. Uh, but
that's that's the big decision I would

1549
01:57:17,360 --> 01:57:22,719
say that needs needs to be made today is
do we yank that piece? Do we leave it in

1550
01:57:21,440 --> 01:57:25,719
there?
>> Okay.

1551
01:57:26,400 --> 01:57:32,800
» Austin, do you have anything to add?
>> I think it's our team pretty well.

1552
01:57:30,880 --> 01:57:36,679
» All right. Yep. Uh, Commissioner Gman,
do you have any questions or comments?

1553
01:57:38,560 --> 01:57:46,320
» Appreciate the explanation
from that

1554
01:57:44,560 --> 01:57:51,360
understand.
>> Yep.

1555
01:57:47,920 --> 01:57:55,520
Um, is there any public comment?
All right. Um, I'm in agreement. I mean,

1556
01:57:53,520 --> 01:57:59,360
I I understand the logic, but I think
it'll be easier to, you know, probably

1557
01:57:57,679 --> 01:58:05,520
get across the finish line without those
additional requirements.

1558
01:58:02,320 --> 01:58:08,719
So, um, what other direction do you guys
need?

1559
01:58:06,480 --> 01:58:13,440
» Well, I I will add there for the record.
I'm not sure if you do that every time

1560
01:58:10,159 --> 01:58:17,040
here, but, um, I I think I'll color the
the commentary a little bit. So, we have

1561
01:58:14,880 --> 01:58:22,000
to submit the bill today to LCB. the
Legislative Council Bureau will draft

1562
01:58:18,639 --> 01:58:27,520
this out and they might even tell us by
the way guys that this is in not in

1563
01:58:25,760 --> 01:58:30,800
compliance with the single subject bill.
So that that's where audit might be that

1564
01:58:29,520 --> 01:58:34,719
second tier of it where we're saying
abatements abatements and then you know

1565
01:58:32,800 --> 01:58:38,560
physical auditing of abatements actually
is like a subtopic, right? Because it

1566
01:58:36,560 --> 01:58:42,239
does hit another tax chapter. So
technically we don't know. So we're

1567
01:58:40,320 --> 01:58:47,840
we're going to submit this draft as we
see it. it comes back and then as it's

1568
01:58:44,320 --> 01:58:52,239
written by them matters to me frankly
more than how I wrote it to them. So

1569
01:58:50,159 --> 01:58:56,719
when we we see the impact or what
happens, there will probably be 10 more

1570
01:58:54,320 --> 01:59:01,679
sections or subsections or pages to this
bill where we will have a downstream

1571
01:58:59,199 --> 01:59:05,119
impact. And truly then as a as a
commission and as as a team, we'll

1572
01:59:03,119 --> 01:59:08,880
assess what's there, what's not, and we
can actually say at that point, this

1573
01:59:07,199 --> 01:59:12,560
looks good, this doesn't, or this this
really hit what we wanted to hit. Ask

1574
01:59:10,960 --> 01:59:16,000
for a reddraft. But when we get that
reddraft back, that's where we can say

1575
01:59:14,719 --> 01:59:19,679
actually we want to take this part out
of the bill. We do do not like it. So

1576
01:59:18,400 --> 01:59:23,520
really at this moment there isn't a lot
of harm saying we want to go forward and

1577
01:59:21,360 --> 01:59:27,360
look what this you know how's this look
what's this audit language you know come

1578
01:59:25,199 --> 01:59:30,560
together like and we can even talk to
you know department of taxation and

1579
01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:34,080
others and say what do you think this
would cost to actually implement right

1580
01:59:32,159 --> 01:59:38,080
and then at that time we can make a more
educated informed decision uh and then

1581
01:59:36,639 --> 01:59:42,239
we could actually you know take it out
of the bill prior to its introduction uh

1582
01:59:40,080 --> 01:59:46,719
to the legislature because it really
gets introduced when the legislature

1583
01:59:43,679 --> 01:59:51,760
goes live come January next year it sort
of comes alive in 2027. So, this is not

1584
01:59:49,920 --> 01:59:56,880
the end of the conversation, just maybe
the furtherance of, you know, where

1585
01:59:54,080 --> 02:00:00,719
where this bill ends up. We we we will
give I will give you your transparent

1586
01:59:58,480 --> 02:00:05,119
advice uh when we get it back from LCB
whether I think something would be an

1587
02:00:02,239 --> 02:00:08,639
anchor and hold it down or whether it it
looks like it'll it'll come out fine.

1588
02:00:06,719 --> 02:00:12,080
So, I think, you know, let's put it
forward as it is today. It looks like

1589
02:00:10,239 --> 02:00:15,520
good guidance. It looks wholly
encompassing where we're not just asking

1590
02:00:13,920 --> 02:00:19,040
for babies to get a little modified. we
actually want to make sure that there's

1591
02:00:17,119 --> 02:00:23,920
some some transparency on them as a
whole. Be that something that ends up in

1592
02:00:21,920 --> 02:00:26,639
say a governor's bill or something else.
We might take it out of our bill

1593
02:00:25,119 --> 02:00:30,719
anyways, right? But we still have some
flexibility. This isn't uh you know a

1594
02:00:29,040 --> 02:00:33,840
handcuff, but I I think it's a very well
positioned bill and we've had a great

1595
02:00:32,080 --> 02:00:36,800
discussion on it so people know why
we're doing it and where we're coming

1596
02:00:34,960 --> 02:00:39,440
from. So I feel comfortable kind of
going forward.

1597
02:00:37,599 --> 02:00:42,639
» So Mr. Chairman, if I can suggest maybe
that we put on the record that we have

1598
02:00:41,440 --> 02:00:46,080
some flexibility
>> Yeah. on on that that maybe we'll submit

1599
02:00:45,040 --> 02:00:48,960
it as is.
>> Okay.

1600
02:00:46,480 --> 02:00:52,719
» That we're not absolutely tied to having
it in there that we'll consult and see

1601
02:00:50,880 --> 02:00:56,880
what we get back from LCB. Okay.
>> And then if it feels like the right move

1602
02:00:54,320 --> 02:00:58,400
that we can modify, soft and remove at a
future date.

1603
02:00:57,440 --> 02:01:02,800
» Okay, that works.
>> Is that comfortable enough? We see if uh

1604
02:01:01,199 --> 02:01:04,880
Commissioner Gilman has thoughts on that
approach.

1605
02:01:04,080 --> 02:01:09,920
» Commissioner Gilman, do you have
anything at this time?

1606
02:01:06,560 --> 02:01:14,560
» There might be one point of order too.
>> I'm 100%.

1607
02:01:12,400 --> 02:01:18,000
Okay,
>> I'm Austin Husband for the record. So, I

1608
02:01:16,639 --> 02:01:22,960
just want to make sure I'm understanding
this correctly. So, we came to the

1609
02:01:21,040 --> 02:01:26,560
proposal to go ahead and move forward
with a bill as it's proposed in front of

1610
02:01:24,800 --> 02:01:31,440
you with the removal of section five,
the auditing elements. I think Mr. Adler

1611
02:01:29,520 --> 02:01:35,440
articulated it quite well the reasons
why and Commissioner Mitchell also

1612
02:01:33,920 --> 02:01:40,000
articulated the reasons why it
ultimately ended up in there and why we

1613
02:01:37,520 --> 02:01:43,760
consider removing but I'm not quite sure
I understand the motion at this point

1614
02:01:41,599 --> 02:01:46,320
after the last statement.
>> Okay, good. I'm glad I'm not the only

1615
02:01:45,199 --> 02:01:50,639
one.
>> So, are we leaving the bill as is with

1616
02:01:48,560 --> 02:01:54,880
the
with the the checks in there or are we

1617
02:01:52,639 --> 02:01:58,800
taking it out now?
It is my recommendation, Austin Osbbor,

1618
02:01:57,199 --> 02:02:02,800
for the record, uh, with the
conversations we've had. I think there's

1619
02:02:00,480 --> 02:02:07,679
good arguments on both sides of that,
um, that we don't go in with section

1620
02:02:05,280 --> 02:02:10,560
five or element five with the audit.
Everything else and the bill move

1621
02:02:09,040 --> 02:02:14,719
forward as it is. It's just my
recommendation. I believe that was

1622
02:02:12,639 --> 02:02:19,679
articulated at most of the discussion
prior to what I'm saying now, but it is

1623
02:02:17,599 --> 02:02:24,159
ultimately up to the board. It does
sound like to me in this conversation,

1624
02:02:21,440 --> 02:02:27,679
if I'm right, uh that some auditing
elements are being looked at by the

1625
02:02:25,840 --> 02:02:31,199
governor's office, governor's office of
economic development, others at the

1626
02:02:29,760 --> 02:02:35,840
state that are putting together their
own bills and that auditing might be

1627
02:02:33,520 --> 02:02:40,320
addressed. It also looks like, if I'm
correct, and please correct me if I'm

1628
02:02:37,280 --> 02:02:44,639
wrong, uh that uh Commissioner Mitchell
mentioned that there is an element in

1629
02:02:41,920 --> 02:02:48,480
our bill that allows GOED to have a
third party review, go through those

1630
02:02:46,960 --> 02:02:52,880
things and make sure everything's where
they want it, and it gives them some

1631
02:02:50,239 --> 02:02:57,119
discretion without this bill going into
LCB with something that may be overly

1632
02:02:55,440 --> 02:02:59,199
complex.
I appreciate you at least hearing me on

1633
02:02:58,960 --> 02:03:03,360
that.
>> Sure. Yeah, I I think if I can clarify

1634
02:03:01,760 --> 02:03:07,920
my comments, I'm I'm quite sure that
that's in the auditing section. Um,

1635
02:03:05,840 --> 02:03:13,280
which was meant to soften the auditing
section. So, if we take it out, that no

1636
02:03:10,880 --> 02:03:17,920
longer is even proposed that that there
could be a third party or or another way

1637
02:03:15,520 --> 02:03:23,360
to look at this. So, I I I'll state very
clearly where I'm at. I I believe if we

1638
02:03:20,239 --> 02:03:28,159
get rid of the auditing section, we um
we don't bring up a subject that we may

1639
02:03:26,239 --> 02:03:36,480
have the ability to get rid of later.
>> Okay? If we take it out now then then uh

1640
02:03:32,800 --> 02:03:41,679
I believe there is risk on the flip side
which is those who say I might be okay

1641
02:03:40,320 --> 02:03:46,000
with this if there was better
accountability right we're trying to

1642
02:03:43,520 --> 02:03:51,679
build consensus behind the idea and if
we take out the auditing section

1643
02:03:47,679 --> 02:03:55,679
completely um and we may not and maybe
the governor brings that maybe he

1644
02:03:53,040 --> 02:04:00,880
doesn't but uh we're our bill is silent
on that and so my recommendation would

1645
02:03:58,480 --> 02:04:06,239
be to leave it in but with the
understanding that we are not

1646
02:04:02,639 --> 02:04:11,760
necessarily tied to it. So then we we
say this is the goal is to to LCB what

1647
02:04:09,679 --> 02:04:16,400
we're trying to accomplish is greater
transparency and accountability and they

1648
02:04:13,920 --> 02:04:21,840
may say sorry you can't do that in this
bill single subject or you can't do or

1649
02:04:19,920 --> 02:04:25,040
whatever it is we talked to we talked to
the other stakeholders as well they say

1650
02:04:23,599 --> 02:04:29,520
we're going to put a massive fiscal note
on that so then we can drop that before

1651
02:04:27,199 --> 02:04:33,360
we get to the legislature. So that's
that's my recommendation is

1652
02:04:31,520 --> 02:04:35,760
» okay. So leave it intact and we can take
it out if necessary later.

1653
02:04:35,199 --> 02:04:40,400
» That's my feel
>> and and LCB can can at least analyze

1654
02:04:38,880 --> 02:04:44,400
everything and tell us like you said
there's a potential fiscal note or there

1655
02:04:41,920 --> 02:04:46,639
is a fiscal note or
>> Okay.

1656
02:04:44,880 --> 02:04:48,480
» Yeah. Which is which is the opposite of
county manager's recommendation just to

1657
02:04:48,239 --> 02:04:53,040
be
>> correct. Correct. Okay. All right.

1658
02:04:51,599 --> 02:04:56,040
Commissioner Gilman, are you clear on
that?

1659
02:04:56,480 --> 02:05:03,119
» Yes.
>> All right. Is there any public comment?

1660
02:05:01,280 --> 02:05:06,960
» Are you prepared to make a motion?
>> I am. There's there's one other thing

1661
02:05:04,639 --> 02:05:10,960
that I'd like to give the flexibility to
look at. Uh not a direction to do for

1662
02:05:09,520 --> 02:05:16,800
sure, but there's one section of the
bill where we act pretty eloquent and it

1663
02:05:13,599 --> 02:05:22,320
has to do with if someone needs a waiver
to the requirement that 50% of the

1664
02:05:18,960 --> 02:05:27,679
construction workers are Neadans.
And it's it's pretty long and detailed

1665
02:05:24,560 --> 02:05:32,400
and it creates kind of a big process and
I'm wondering if uh we may not have the

1666
02:05:30,480 --> 02:05:36,400
time between now and submission later
today. But I'd like to, if it's all

1667
02:05:34,719 --> 02:05:40,400
right, get the board's permission to
look at that and if there's an efficient

1668
02:05:38,239 --> 02:05:44,239
way to maybe streamline that down and
make it just a little more clear because

1669
02:05:42,719 --> 02:05:47,760
as I was reading through it, it's like
there's all sorts of well, you have to

1670
02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:50,719
show proof and you have to do this and
you have to say you've done that and

1671
02:05:49,040 --> 02:05:55,920
then you can get a waiver and you can
employ fewer Neadans. And there's

1672
02:05:53,040 --> 02:05:59,280
already that element in the law. We just
created a much more kind of

1673
02:05:57,280 --> 02:06:02,960
comprehensive way to do it which may
have pros and cons. And I think that if

1674
02:06:01,199 --> 02:06:09,119
that if it's okay to have a final check
on that and authorize uh our team to to

1675
02:06:06,960 --> 02:06:13,440
just either shrink it down to something
more concise or leave it the way it is

1676
02:06:11,599 --> 02:06:16,080
based on if we feel we can do it justice
in the next couple hours.

1677
02:06:14,880 --> 02:06:20,880
» Okay.
>> Is that something that works? I'm

1678
02:06:18,000 --> 02:06:26,639
comfortable. Y
>> and I believe for reference uh I believe

1679
02:06:23,760 --> 02:06:31,040
that is in section
four.

1680
02:06:28,639 --> 02:06:35,520
um
subsection 12 I believe is where it

1681
02:06:33,360 --> 02:06:39,440
starts, but we'll take a look at that.
So, other other than that, I I think

1682
02:06:37,679 --> 02:06:44,159
we're pretty pretty darn close to prime
time ready for prime time on this.

1683
02:06:41,520 --> 02:06:46,800
» All right. Um are you prepared to make a
motion?

1684
02:06:45,840 --> 02:06:51,599
» I can.
>> Okay.

1685
02:06:48,480 --> 02:06:55,800
Except I am out of order
because we did it out of order.

1686
02:06:55,840 --> 02:07:03,880
62.
>> Thank you.

1687
02:07:00,079 --> 02:07:03,880
» 628 maybe.

1688
02:07:06,320 --> 02:07:13,119
» 628.
>> Thank you.

1689
02:07:10,239 --> 02:07:17,520
» All right. Um
I Commissioner Mitchell move to direct.

1690
02:07:15,840 --> 02:07:18,560
Did we take public comment?
>> Yep.

1691
02:07:18,079 --> 02:07:21,440
» Did
>> I did?

1692
02:07:19,599 --> 02:07:24,960
» Um I, Commissioner Mitchell, move to
direct county staff and lobbyists to

1693
02:07:23,040 --> 02:07:30,079
represent Story County on known BDRs,
bills, and other potential legislation

1694
02:07:27,679 --> 02:07:35,199
affecting Story County as follows. to
submit by the filing deadline our final

1695
02:07:32,719 --> 02:07:43,599
draft of the uh what we affectionately
refer to as the omni baitment BDR to um

1696
02:07:40,560 --> 02:07:49,440
retain the section about
um audits with the understanding that it

1697
02:07:47,040 --> 02:07:54,159
may be removed at a later time [snorts]
and uh to authorize staff to massage

1698
02:07:51,760 --> 02:07:58,400
wording on that section as well as on
the section about waiverss for the

1699
02:07:56,320 --> 02:08:00,639
Nevada employee requirements before
submitt

1700
02:08:02,320 --> 02:08:06,520
There's a motion. Do we have a second?

1701
02:08:07,920 --> 02:08:12,320
» Second.
>> There's a motion and a second. All those

1702
02:08:10,320 --> 02:08:15,679
in favor signify by saying I.
>> I.

1703
02:08:12,800 --> 02:08:20,159
» I.
>> Motion passes unanimously. Thank you,

1704
02:08:18,159 --> 02:08:23,440
Will. Thank you, Austin.
>> Uh, Mr. Mr. Chair, Before we close this

1705
02:08:21,840 --> 02:08:29,840
item, I just wanted to make the
commission aware the uh state historic

1706
02:08:27,199 --> 02:08:34,079
preservation office has informed us that
they submitted a bill uh and we've asked

1707
02:08:32,159 --> 02:08:36,960
them for a copy of it that may have some
some sort of impact around the historic

1708
02:08:36,159 --> 02:08:40,079
district.
>> So, we don't know we don't yet know what

1709
02:08:38,480 --> 02:08:44,000
it is. We've asked them for a copy so we
can see what uh what what that may say

1710
02:08:42,480 --> 02:08:47,119
and we'll we'll bring it back under this
item in the future.

1711
02:08:45,040 --> 02:08:51,520
» All right. Great. Um, I'm going to ask
we just take a short break before moving

1712
02:08:48,639 --> 02:08:55,280
on to item number 16.
>> Public lobbyist comment. We'll add for

1713
02:08:53,840 --> 02:08:58,480
the record. There are several bills that
have actually been announced or sort of

1714
02:08:56,800 --> 02:09:03,119
have their titles out and I have a good
tracker of them going uh post this we

1715
02:09:01,520 --> 02:09:07,760
could actually do sort of a you know
looking at the field uh legislative

1716
02:09:05,840 --> 02:09:12,159
bills and BDRs what's what's coming to
the legislature and that that is one of

1717
02:09:10,079 --> 02:09:16,960
them on the list. So, I that reminds me
uh if needed, I'd be glad to present

1718
02:09:15,199 --> 02:09:20,719
that to you all. Thank you very much.
>> Thank you. All right, we're going to

1719
02:09:18,800 --> 02:09:23,880
recess. It's 12:13. We'll be back in a
couple minutes.

1720
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:02,239
I

1721
02:10:04,719 --> 02:10:09,320
Democrat Latino Central.

1722
02:10:52,159 --> 02:10:56,360
Yeah, that's what I really want.

1723
02:11:10,320 --> 02:11:13,400
All right.

1724
02:11:17,679 --> 02:11:20,679
Perfect.

1725
02:12:00,639 --> 02:12:03,639
Yeah.

1726
02:12:11,280 --> 02:12:15,639
» Yes.
No.

1727
02:12:30,400 --> 02:12:33,480
All right.

1728
02:13:01,599 --> 02:13:04,920
I can't Speech. Speech. Speech.

1729
02:14:26,560 --> 02:14:28,719
That's

1730
02:14:36,239 --> 02:14:39,639
What's your idea?

1731
02:14:59,920 --> 02:15:02,920
forward

1732
02:15:41,920 --> 02:15:45,639
Let's think about that.

1733
02:15:58,480 --> 02:16:02,360
That's really hot, you know.

1734
02:16:26,400 --> 02:16:29,400
very

1735
02:17:13,920 --> 02:17:17,160
That's right.

1736
02:17:48,399 --> 02:17:51,399
Sorry.

1737
02:18:34,880 --> 02:18:37,920
I order this

1738
02:18:49,200 --> 02:18:52,840
What if we did?

1739
02:19:03,439 --> 02:19:06,679
Last time

1740
02:19:26,559 --> 02:19:28,880
we'll

1741
02:19:37,679 --> 02:19:41,960
It's awkward.

1742
02:20:12,240 --> 02:20:15,479
That's right.

1743
02:20:22,160 --> 02:20:25,160
Any

1744
02:20:26,160 --> 02:20:29,160
questions?

1745
02:20:57,920 --> 02:21:00,920
forunately.

1746
02:21:13,040 --> 02:21:16,040
Apple

1747
02:21:45,760 --> 02:21:49,200
Stick around. Yeah.

1748
02:21:50,720 --> 02:21:53,720
Yeah.

1749
02:21:56,479 --> 02:22:01,800
» All right. It's 12:26. We're going to go
ahead and reconvene.

1750
02:22:04,960 --> 02:22:10,040
» Yeah. I'm waiting for the Commissioner
Gilman. You ready to go?

1751
02:22:10,640 --> 02:22:17,200
» Thank you.
All right. All right, we're on to item

1752
02:22:14,720 --> 02:22:21,840
number 16, which is to recess to convene
as Story County Highway Board. Bringing

1753
02:22:18,800 --> 02:22:24,960
us item number 17. Discussion only uh
report of public works department

1754
02:22:23,600 --> 02:22:28,359
regarding roads and highways throughout
Story County.

1755
02:22:32,560 --> 02:22:39,520
» Good afternoon, chairman, commissioners.
Jason Warsiki for the record. Just a

1756
02:22:36,640 --> 02:22:44,160
couple quick updates. Um, I met with the
LCC

1757
02:22:41,200 --> 02:22:47,680
uh yesterday morning to go over some uh
drainage

1758
02:22:45,840 --> 02:22:52,800
uh questions before I meet with the
engineer uh tomorrow morning at 9:30 to

1759
02:22:50,773 --> 02:22:57,520
[snorts] address some drainage and uh
hopefully figure out how we can

1760
02:22:54,880 --> 02:23:04,240
remediate uh Lockwood Lake at the bottom
of Canyon Way and in Perry Ranch and uh

1761
02:23:01,760 --> 02:23:08,080
take care of some upper drainage as well
and uh get all that wrapped up so we can

1762
02:23:06,880 --> 02:23:11,280
pave
So, I want to address all the drainage

1763
02:23:09,600 --> 02:23:13,920
issues before we pave so we're not
throwing money away.

1764
02:23:13,120 --> 02:23:15,760
» A lake.
>> What's that?

1765
02:23:14,479 --> 02:23:17,359
» There's a lake.
>> Uh, there can be.

1766
02:23:16,960 --> 02:23:22,479
» Okay.
>> At certain certain storms. [laughter]

1767
02:23:20,800 --> 02:23:26,560
» Does Endown know? They'll want to throw
some trout in there.

1768
02:23:24,880 --> 02:23:31,359
» Yeah, that's what the the residents have
nicknamed that uh Lockwood Lake. So,

1769
02:23:29,280 --> 02:23:36,800
during during different thunderstorms.
>> All right. Uh another note uh we were uh

1770
02:23:34,720 --> 02:23:42,880
successfully worked with SNC on the
railroad crossing at Walam by Wild

1771
02:23:40,399 --> 02:23:49,520
Horse. We were able to remove that
failed slot drain u and repave

1772
02:23:47,040 --> 02:23:53,280
everything and that transition's really
really nice at this point in time and

1773
02:23:51,520 --> 02:23:57,040
not hammering the railroad crossing
anymore from the way to the trucks

1774
02:23:55,600 --> 02:24:01,520
bouncing and
>> smooth as the horse guards on 341. Uh

1775
02:24:01,120 --> 02:24:03,120
it's
>> pretty close.

1776
02:24:02,240 --> 02:24:04,160
» Yeah, pretty close.
>> All right.

1777
02:24:03,760 --> 02:24:05,600
» Yeah, we'll
>> check it out.

1778
02:24:04,880 --> 02:24:11,520
» Yeah, thank you.
>> And uh we're well underway on the uh

1779
02:24:08,640 --> 02:24:16,479
road rehab project down in Mark Twain.
Uh we've uh ran into a couple armchair

1780
02:24:14,960 --> 02:24:21,680
quarterbacks
uh their opposition yesterday and that

1781
02:24:19,840 --> 02:24:27,120
was kind of interesting. But uh we're
full steam ahead on uh some drainage

1782
02:24:24,640 --> 02:24:29,200
improvements and get ready to start
chewing up some road to lay some new

1783
02:24:28,640 --> 02:24:32,080
ones.
>> All right. You know, you guys aren't

1784
02:24:30,319 --> 02:24:33,840
having any hostility problems down
there.

1785
02:24:32,560 --> 02:24:36,720
» That was yesterday.
>> Okay. Sheriff's office notified or

1786
02:24:35,920 --> 02:24:41,359
» uh not yet.
>> Okay. You guys safe out there?

1787
02:24:38,880 --> 02:24:43,200
» Yeah. So, that's all I have at this
point in time.

1788
02:24:42,080 --> 02:24:47,080
» All right. Thank you, Commissioner
Gilman. Do you have any questions?

1789
02:24:48,319 --> 02:24:52,560
» All right. Vice Chairman.
>> Uh, no. Thanks for the report, please.

1790
02:24:51,120 --> 02:24:56,560
» Yeah. Thank you. Thanks for your work
out there. Mhm.

1791
02:24:54,640 --> 02:25:00,080
» On item number 18 is to recess to
convene the story county uh fire

1792
02:24:58,640 --> 02:25:04,880
protection district board. Bringing us
to item number 19, which is discussion

1793
02:25:03,040 --> 02:25:09,040
for possible action, consideration, and
possible approval of an unbudgeted

1794
02:25:06,479 --> 02:25:12,040
capital fund expense in the amount of uh
$1,241,885

1795
02:25:12,080 --> 02:25:20,399
to purchase a all-wheel drive type 1
fire engine for station 71. Chief

1796
02:25:18,000 --> 02:25:26,399
Bob Riser, fire chief. For the record,
back in 2024, we uh determined that we

1797
02:25:24,240 --> 02:25:32,720
were long past due to purchase a new
type 1 fire engine for here in Virginia

1798
02:25:29,200 --> 02:25:38,319
City. The original determination was to
get a four-wheel drive engine. Um so we

1799
02:25:36,000 --> 02:25:43,439
put that on order. The challenge of the
fire service is that's 48 months minimum

1800
02:25:40,960 --> 02:25:49,280
to get that piece of apparatus. So
sometime by the end of 2028, we would

1801
02:25:46,399 --> 02:25:56,080
have that engine.
In speaking to the Pierce sales rep um

1802
02:25:53,280 --> 02:26:00,160
about two months ago, he gave us an
alternative option which was an

1803
02:25:57,760 --> 02:26:04,880
all-wheel drive engine which would match
the two that we recently ordered that

1804
02:26:01,760 --> 02:26:08,160
you approved uh last month. Um, it would
be matching in nearly every function

1805
02:26:06,880 --> 02:26:14,080
except for the fact that it would be an
all-wheel drive and it would come in at

1806
02:26:10,800 --> 02:26:19,200
about 12 to 14 months sooner than the
four-wheel drive engine. Um, the

1807
02:26:16,800 --> 02:26:24,880
difference in price would be the
$41,885.

1808
02:26:22,160 --> 02:26:28,240
So, for the the rate at which they've
been increasing in cost and the fact

1809
02:26:26,640 --> 02:26:32,000
that they don't even have a VIN for the
one that we were going to get at the end

1810
02:26:30,160 --> 02:26:36,160
of 2028,
um made the determination that I think

1811
02:26:34,479 --> 02:26:41,680
it's in the district's best interest and
the community's best interest to modify

1812
02:26:39,359 --> 02:26:48,120
from the 4x4 to the all-wheel drive and
get it sooner and just um incur the

1813
02:26:44,720 --> 02:26:48,120
additional 41,885

1814
02:26:48,479 --> 02:26:55,680
with not expecting to have that
apparatus. uh come in until 2028. We

1815
02:26:53,520 --> 02:26:59,840
didn't put it on this year's budget as a
funded expense. The money was already

1816
02:26:57,520 --> 02:27:05,040
set aside. However, we didn't do that.
So, they're requesting to

1817
02:27:02,479 --> 02:27:10,000
transition that original 1.2 plus the
additional 41,885

1818
02:27:07,120 --> 02:27:14,640
into this year's budget for the expense
and sign the contract for the purchase

1819
02:27:11,600 --> 02:27:19,200
of that all-wheel drive type one.
>> Okay.

1820
02:27:16,560 --> 02:27:22,800
Uh thank you, Fire Commissioner Gilman.
Do you have any questions or comments?

1821
02:27:24,080 --> 02:27:29,760
Fire Commissioner Mitchell.
>> Uh Chief, can you just briefly talk

1822
02:27:27,920 --> 02:27:32,800
about any sort of implications of the
difference between four-wheel drive,

1823
02:27:30,880 --> 02:27:38,080
all-wheel drive units?
>> Um the the biggest difference that we

1824
02:27:35,280 --> 02:27:42,880
see is the all-wheel drive unit sits
lower at almost a normal two- wheelel

1825
02:27:40,240 --> 02:27:46,960
drive engine height, which decreases the
safety issues that we see with personnel

1826
02:27:44,720 --> 02:27:51,359
trying to climb in and out of them. Um
so from a workcom standpoint, I'm

1827
02:27:48,880 --> 02:27:56,880
excited about that. uh pulling hose, the
hose beds sit lower as well. So that

1828
02:27:54,160 --> 02:28:00,640
increases the the safety factor. The
all-wheel drive, when we started doing

1829
02:27:58,800 --> 02:28:04,960
some comparison studies with neighbors
that are using them in high elevation

1830
02:28:02,960 --> 02:28:08,319
climates as well, like Veil, Colorado,
they don't have any four-wheel drive.

1831
02:28:06,160 --> 02:28:12,960
They only have all-wheel drive and they
operate in a significantly heavier snow

1832
02:28:10,479 --> 02:28:20,080
load than we consistently do, give or
take, you know, 2023 and other various

1833
02:28:16,000 --> 02:28:25,920
years. Um, so overall they tend to
operate better. The all-wheel drive

1834
02:28:22,800 --> 02:28:29,840
kicks out at 17 miles an hour and goes
back into a two- wheelel drive, rear

1835
02:28:27,600 --> 02:28:35,439
wheel drive mode.
The expectation and recommendation from

1836
02:28:32,960 --> 02:28:39,040
Pierce is still to put chains on the
rear drive wheels to make sure that

1837
02:28:37,439 --> 02:28:43,760
we're not having any traction or
stability issues with that. But overall,

1838
02:28:42,000 --> 02:28:49,680
the amount of time that we would have to
put chains on or not um is relatively

1839
02:28:48,080 --> 02:28:54,399
insignificant.
So the the operational standpoint, the

1840
02:28:52,640 --> 02:28:58,880
mechanic has also said he'd prefer it to
be an all-wheel drive because they're

1841
02:28:55,920 --> 02:29:03,120
easier to maintain.
>> Thank you.

1842
02:29:00,880 --> 02:29:06,319
» Uh I was going to ask a similar
question, but you touched on something

1843
02:29:04,399 --> 02:29:09,840
with your answer. So, you're telling me
after 17 miles an hour, it automatically

1844
02:29:08,479 --> 02:29:15,359
goes back to two wheel drive?
>> Kicks back out to two wheel drive.

1845
02:29:12,880 --> 02:29:19,520
» That That feels dangerous for some
reason.

1846
02:29:17,040 --> 02:29:22,960
» Well, my concern is if the firefighters
during conditions when they need to be

1847
02:29:22,479 --> 02:29:28,399
» right
>> in that uh should not be operating at

1848
02:29:26,399 --> 02:29:30,800
speeds really exceeding that.
>> Okay.

1849
02:29:28,880 --> 02:29:34,399
» In general, and it will still have the
chains on it.

1850
02:29:31,840 --> 02:29:37,840
» Gotcha. if the need arises for that. But
there are multiple opportunities where

1851
02:29:36,000 --> 02:29:42,560
the all-wheel drive will be sufficient
to move around, whether it's Virginia

1852
02:29:40,240 --> 02:29:46,880
City, Gold Hill, driving down Six Mile
Canyon, especially in inclement

1853
02:29:45,040 --> 02:29:50,800
conditions. We're trying to get them to
slow down, not give them a vehicle that

1854
02:29:48,960 --> 02:29:54,399
makes them feel confident to drive even
faster.

1855
02:29:52,000 --> 02:29:57,840
» Yeah. Okay. Uh and there's no auto chain
setup for those firet trucks or they

1856
02:29:55,920 --> 02:30:01,439
don't work well with that. Um, auto
chains work really well if you don't

1857
02:29:59,680 --> 02:30:05,200
have any snow on the ground and you only
have icy conditions

1858
02:30:02,960 --> 02:30:07,359
» because they tend to to hang up.
>> Got

1859
02:30:05,600 --> 02:30:11,120
» and if the wheel isn't already spinning
to get the chain to go under the wheel,

1860
02:30:09,840 --> 02:30:13,680
» they're not very effective.
>> Nice. Okay. Just curious.

1861
02:30:12,880 --> 02:30:18,399
» Yeah.
>> All right. Uh, thank you. Is there any

1862
02:30:15,439 --> 02:30:21,040
public comment on this item?
>> Not seeing any. Vice Chairman, you

1863
02:30:19,840 --> 02:30:25,520
prepare to make a motion?
>> Yeah. I fire Commissioner Mitchell move

1864
02:30:22,800 --> 02:30:32,319
to approve the unbudgeted capital fund
expense in the amount of 1,241,885

1865
02:30:30,160 --> 02:30:36,200
for the purchase of a type one fire
engine for station 71.

1866
02:30:37,520 --> 02:30:41,359
» There's a motion and a second. All those
in favor signify by saying I.

1867
02:30:40,960 --> 02:30:43,359
» I.
>> I.

1868
02:30:42,800 --> 02:30:46,880
» I.
>> Motion passes unanimously. On to item

1869
02:30:45,439 --> 02:30:50,399
number 20, which is discussion for
possible action. Consideration and

1870
02:30:48,880 --> 02:30:54,800
possible approval of an unbudgeted
capital expense, capital fund expense

1871
02:30:52,800 --> 02:30:57,600
not to exceed 25,000 for the purchase
and outfitting of a passenger van

1872
02:30:56,134 --> 02:31:03,439
[clears throat] for the fire district.
Chief, uh Bob Razer, fire chief. Again,

1873
02:31:00,560 --> 02:31:08,000
for the record, um the district at one
point owned two different

1874
02:31:05,200 --> 02:31:11,840
multi-passenger vans and we didn't have
a lot of utilization of them. they ended

1875
02:31:10,160 --> 02:31:16,720
up being
sent to different departments within the

1876
02:31:14,399 --> 02:31:24,080
county. And now one of the things that
we're finding is we have our our new six

1877
02:31:19,600 --> 02:31:30,479
cadet academy which is phenomenal for us
which also necessitates two uh training

1878
02:31:27,439 --> 02:31:34,319
officers to get them around to the
locations we need. is currently taking

1879
02:31:32,399 --> 02:31:39,760
three vehicles
um between their gear and everything

1880
02:31:36,640 --> 02:31:46,560
else that uh they take around with them.
So, we're asking for authorization to

1881
02:31:43,439 --> 02:31:50,640
purchase uh a passenger van again. We
see obviously the academy utilization of

1882
02:31:48,880 --> 02:31:55,439
it, but we're sending enough people to
classes where they're taking their gear

1883
02:31:52,720 --> 02:31:59,520
with them, and it's a lesser expense to
put them in an agency-owned vehicle to

1884
02:31:57,439 --> 02:32:05,120
send them out than to to put them on an
airplane. and if we're sending them with

1885
02:32:02,160 --> 02:32:11,200
their structure gear and their airpacks.
Uh air packs are considered a hazmat

1886
02:32:07,680 --> 02:32:14,960
when sent on an airplane. So it uh
creates some real challenges for us when

1887
02:32:12,960 --> 02:32:17,840
we're sending personnel out. But if we
have the ability to put them in a

1888
02:32:16,319 --> 02:32:23,600
vehicle, it makes it a little easier for
us to do that. The mechanic has uh

1889
02:32:21,439 --> 02:32:30,080
already found one that he really likes
and is comfortable with at the GMC

1890
02:32:26,560 --> 02:32:35,040
dealer down in Reno and they actually
came in at under

1891
02:32:33,040 --> 02:32:39,520
under price of what they had originally
listed to go to the fire district. So I

1892
02:32:38,000 --> 02:32:44,240
am confident that we can find an
appropriate vehicle under that $25,000

1893
02:32:42,000 --> 02:32:49,680
expense.
>> All right. Uh fire commissioner Gilman,

1894
02:32:47,200 --> 02:32:52,240
do you have any questions or comments?
No, thank you.

1895
02:32:51,359 --> 02:32:57,479
» Commissioner Mitchell,
>> no. Thank you.

1896
02:32:54,160 --> 02:32:57,479
» Public comment.

1897
02:32:57,920 --> 02:33:01,760
» Fire Commissioner Mitchell, you prepare
to make a motion?

1898
02:33:00,080 --> 02:33:07,200
» Yeah. I, Fire Commissioner Mitchell,
move to approve the unbudgeted capital

1899
02:33:03,840 --> 02:33:12,800
fund expense not to exceed $25,000 for
the purchase and outfitting of a

1900
02:33:08,560 --> 02:33:16,399
passenger van for the fire district.
>> There's a motion and a second. All those

1901
02:33:14,479 --> 02:33:18,399
in favor signify by saying I.
>> I.

1902
02:33:16,880 --> 02:33:21,439
» I.
I

1903
02:33:19,200 --> 02:33:23,280
» motion passes unanimously.
Thanks, Chief.

1904
02:33:22,479 --> 02:33:26,720
» Thank you.
>> On item number 21, discussion for

1905
02:33:25,120 --> 02:33:30,080
possible action, consideration and
possible approval of the annual review

1906
02:33:28,240 --> 02:33:37,359
and evaluation of the performance of Bob
Riser, fire chief for the time period of

1907
02:33:32,479 --> 02:33:40,880
August 25, 2025 through August 24, 2026.
Brandy,

1908
02:33:39,120 --> 02:33:44,240
» good afternoon, commissioners. Brandy
Lopez for the record. Today, the board

1909
02:33:42,800 --> 02:33:48,720
will conduct the annual performance
evaluation of Chief Bob Riser. As part

1910
02:33:46,880 --> 02:33:52,800
of the board's evaluation process, the
board may discuss Chief Riser's

1911
02:33:50,960 --> 02:33:56,880
character, professional competence,
overall performance, and the duties and

1912
02:33:55,040 --> 02:34:01,520
responsibilities associated with his
position. In conducting the evaluation,

1913
02:33:59,520 --> 02:34:06,160
the board may consider the chief's job
description, assigned responsibilities,

1914
02:34:04,240 --> 02:34:10,399
his self-evaluation, and any other
matters relevant to this agenda item.

1915
02:34:08,960 --> 02:34:15,600
Chief Riser has completed a
self-evaluation, which is included in

1916
02:34:13,120 --> 02:34:19,680
your agenda packet. He is present today
and will have the opportunity to provide

1917
02:34:17,680 --> 02:34:23,840
any additional information or respond to
any matters relating to his character,

1918
02:34:21,600 --> 02:34:28,479
alleged misconduct, professional
competence, or physical or mental

1919
02:34:25,920 --> 02:34:32,399
health. Following the performance of the
evaluation, the board may at its

1920
02:34:30,319 --> 02:34:36,800
discretion modify Chief Riser's goals
and objectives, determine whether to

1921
02:34:34,560 --> 02:34:41,280
approve a merit increase, bonus, or
other compensation adjustment, take

1922
02:34:39,040 --> 02:34:46,319
adverse administrative action up into
including termination, or take any other

1923
02:34:43,760 --> 02:34:50,800
action the board deems appropriate. If
the board determines the Chief Riser's

1924
02:34:48,640 --> 02:34:54,720
performance is satisfactory, he will be
eligible for a step increase consistent

1925
02:34:52,720 --> 02:34:59,359
with the compensation provided to
non-represented fire district personnel.

1926
02:34:57,359 --> 02:35:06,439
So, at this time, I will turn it over to
you guys to perform the evaluation.

1927
02:35:02,640 --> 02:35:06,439
» All right. Thank you, Brandy.

1928
02:35:07,920 --> 02:35:14,160
» Um, Commissioner Gilman, do you have any
questions or comments at this time?

1929
02:35:12,800 --> 02:35:18,160
» Not at this time.
>> Vice Chairman Um, I have I have a few.

1930
02:35:17,600 --> 02:35:20,479
» Okay.
>> If that's all right.

1931
02:35:19,200 --> 02:35:26,560
» Absolutely.
>> Um, so I don't, you know, I I prefer the

1932
02:35:24,560 --> 02:35:31,640
floggings happen quickly as opposed to
drawn out like they're laid out in the

1933
02:35:28,640 --> 02:35:31,640
evaluation.

1934
02:35:32,000 --> 02:35:37,680
Uh you know the the first thing that I
wanted to say uh Chief Riser is that I I

1935
02:35:36,240 --> 02:35:42,960
really appreciate your thoughtful
approach and your deliberate structuring

1936
02:35:40,240 --> 02:35:47,680
of the organization and particularly
your focus on uh morale and and the way

1937
02:35:45,840 --> 02:35:55,760
that the organization is built. I think
that's uh been really really valuable to

1938
02:35:50,960 --> 02:36:01,120
the fire district. Um I have two um two
focus areas that I think would um you

1939
02:35:59,120 --> 02:36:08,080
know maybe to point out to work on in
the upcoming year. And um the first one

1940
02:36:04,800 --> 02:36:13,120
is that often we end up as fire and
county commissioners end up as the de

1941
02:36:09,680 --> 02:36:18,640
facto help desk or customer service uh
for uh for the county and for the fire

1942
02:36:16,160 --> 02:36:23,920
district. And and what that means is
often when there are major incidents, uh

1943
02:36:22,240 --> 02:36:29,280
especially if there are potential
impacts to people's day-to-day lives, um

1944
02:36:27,280 --> 02:36:34,160
you know, a quick call to just just let
us know when something's going on. You

1945
02:36:31,840 --> 02:36:38,399
know, it's not it's a little bit of a
distraction from the operational command

1946
02:36:36,000 --> 02:36:42,640
and and that side of things. That really
helps us out, helps us with community

1947
02:36:40,000 --> 02:36:47,120
relations. And I, you know, I think uh
our meetings like this are a great place

1948
02:36:45,200 --> 02:36:51,920
for kind of an afteraction summary of
those things. U but it it would really

1949
02:36:49,840 --> 02:36:57,600
help us with that community relations
side of things to uh to be looped in as

1950
02:36:55,359 --> 02:37:01,520
as there are bigger incidents. And if
there's nothing really if there's real

1951
02:36:59,680 --> 02:37:04,560
no really no impact, then that's great
to let us know, hey, we don't anticipate

1952
02:37:03,040 --> 02:37:08,560
any impact for residents or something
like that, then we can calm people down

1953
02:37:06,800 --> 02:37:12,640
and and let them know that they they
don't need to be worried. Um the second

1954
02:37:11,120 --> 02:37:16,240
one that that's been on my mind a little
bit has to do with you know the the role

1955
02:37:14,319 --> 02:37:22,319
that we have kind of an oversight and
strategic planning role and um when when

1956
02:37:19,760 --> 02:37:26,800
there are proposals around structure or
structural changes major projects maybe

1957
02:37:25,280 --> 02:37:30,800
prioritization changing the
prioritization

1958
02:37:28,319 --> 02:37:36,240
uh and planning I think it would be
really helpful for us as we're trying to

1959
02:37:33,200 --> 02:37:41,600
take that big picture structural view um
for me personally it'd be helpful to

1960
02:37:38,960 --> 02:37:46,640
maybe opportunities to discuss those to
to float those ideas before we bake them

1961
02:37:44,479 --> 02:37:51,760
fully and bring them here so that that
can be a little more of a collaborative

1962
02:37:48,080 --> 02:37:57,520
process um in the in the creation of the
strategy. Um, and I know typically I

1963
02:37:55,760 --> 02:38:00,960
don't have a ton to say about it, but
sometimes it'll trigger something and

1964
02:37:59,120 --> 02:38:04,880
go, "Hey, we might want to consider that
or let's think about that as we do it."

1965
02:38:03,280 --> 02:38:10,080
And and then when we get here to the
meetings to to to deliberate publicly

1966
02:38:07,359 --> 02:38:14,640
and to make those final decisions, um,
we've had a a good stretch to really

1967
02:38:12,080 --> 02:38:18,880
digest what the impacts will be for the
organization. So, those are the two

1968
02:38:16,399 --> 02:38:24,080
things that were on my mind um as as
maybe things to focus on for the next

1969
02:38:20,399 --> 02:38:29,680
year. Uh much appreciate that. Uh Fire
Commissioner Mitchell, um you know, uh

1970
02:38:27,840 --> 02:38:33,760
I'll take this opportunity to say I
think you know uh I I feel like the fire

1971
02:38:32,399 --> 02:38:38,479
district is in a pretty strong place
right now. Um, you know, if if I were to

1972
02:38:36,399 --> 02:38:43,200
pick on any negatives, um, and I'm going
to take some ownership to that because,

1973
02:38:41,120 --> 02:38:49,200
um, in the transition from the previous
fire chief, um, you know, I don't know

1974
02:38:46,399 --> 02:38:52,720
that I did the right,
um, I I I I

1975
02:38:51,280 --> 02:38:57,120
did you a disservice because I didn't
bring it to your attention sooner as far

1976
02:38:54,240 --> 02:39:00,800
as the um, the information that I feel I
needed. Um, so I'm not blaming you for

1977
02:38:59,600 --> 02:39:05,040
that. Something I could have brought to
your attention a lot sooner. Um but uh I

1978
02:39:03,520 --> 02:39:09,920
do want to take this opportunity to
compliment you on [snorts] I think the

1979
02:39:07,760 --> 02:39:14,800
overall organization as a whole. We
talked about um you know the turnover

1980
02:39:12,960 --> 02:39:20,399
that pretty much doesn't exist these
days. Um and I think that that speaks

1981
02:39:17,200 --> 02:39:23,920
volumes to the leadership um of the fire
district and you know in other

1982
02:39:22,455 --> 02:39:27,439
[clears throat] aspects of my life I'm
dealing with you know getting folks

1983
02:39:25,760 --> 02:39:32,240
trained and then they bail and that was
a big issue for the fire district at one

1984
02:39:29,600 --> 02:39:37,600
point in time during my tenure here. um
and the fact that we don't have that um

1985
02:39:34,640 --> 02:39:42,560
employee morale. Uh I can tell you in
the last 12 months I've been approached

1986
02:39:39,359 --> 02:39:48,560
by more fire district employees that
have come up to thank me and the board

1987
02:39:46,160 --> 02:39:52,960
to talk about how happy they are with
the organization. Um and so you know I

1988
02:39:51,760 --> 02:39:58,000
just want to point that out on the
record that um I think you know you

1989
02:39:55,439 --> 02:40:02,080
should take pride in that because um you
know it's not easy uh you know playing

1990
02:40:00,479 --> 02:40:08,479
both sides. you've got to deal with the
board and you've got to be uh the right

1991
02:40:04,800 --> 02:40:12,399
kind of boss to your staff. Um and so I
definitely want to tip my hat to you for

1992
02:40:09,840 --> 02:40:17,760
that because that is not easy to manage.
But um you know continue on that path.

1993
02:40:14,800 --> 02:40:22,880
Um you know I'm I'm very happy with
where I see things overall at the fire

1994
02:40:19,439 --> 02:40:29,319
district. Um you know and so I'll I'll
leave it at that. Um is there any public

1995
02:40:25,600 --> 02:40:29,319
comment at this time?

1996
02:40:29,680 --> 02:40:36,080
Not seeing any. Um, vice chairman,
excuse me, you're a fire commissioner

1997
02:40:34,720 --> 02:40:39,040
today. Are you prepared to make a
motion?

1998
02:40:37,200 --> 02:40:44,000
» I am. I I don't know if we wanted to
talk a little bit about because, you

1999
02:40:40,640 --> 02:40:49,120
know, we we recently changed changed a
structure on on the compensation and

2000
02:40:46,720 --> 02:40:54,160
kind of aligned it and and dialed it in.
And I still haven't kind of wrapped my

2001
02:40:51,359 --> 02:41:00,920
brain around that. And maybe Chief, you
can help us out. you know, typically um

2002
02:41:04,880 --> 02:41:10,720
you know, t typically I think, you know,
a step increase is pretty automatic. I

2003
02:41:09,280 --> 02:41:17,359
just don't really have a a good
understanding of the full impact of that

2004
02:41:13,520 --> 02:41:22,160
change we made and what that does. Um,
and we we want to be fair. We want to

2005
02:41:20,080 --> 02:41:26,319
acknowledge the work that you do and and
appreciate that. At the same time, it

2006
02:41:24,960 --> 02:41:30,240
hasn't really been our tradition to do
bonuses or to do, you know, extra. We

2007
02:41:28,720 --> 02:41:34,560
try we try to match up and make sure
that we're we're fair, but but we're

2008
02:41:32,479 --> 02:41:39,600
we're not excessive in how we're
approaching that. And especially with

2009
02:41:36,560 --> 02:41:45,520
the way that the the CBA structured with
an 8% coal in the first year, it just

2010
02:41:42,319 --> 02:41:50,560
that and and then indexing things off of
other compensation. I don't have a good

2011
02:41:47,760 --> 02:41:54,800
handle on where we are and try trying to
make sure I understand that a little bit

2012
02:41:52,000 --> 02:41:54,800
better. So,

2013
02:41:54,880 --> 02:42:03,600
I'm looking at who's going to be the
best one to handle this. That be HR,

2014
02:42:01,280 --> 02:42:06,920
controller,
fire chief,

2015
02:42:07,120 --> 02:42:10,920
» a a group effort.

2016
02:42:16,000 --> 02:42:23,600
» I'm not sure I understand your question.
>> Well,

2017
02:42:21,280 --> 02:42:27,680
so AB absent kind of the way we just
restructured the compensation for the

2018
02:42:25,280 --> 02:42:34,880
leadership, the non-represented
um pretty cut and dry as far as um as

2019
02:42:32,160 --> 02:42:38,240
far as a step increases
whatever it is three and a half% or

2020
02:42:36,479 --> 02:42:41,680
whatever it is. And so then that's
that's pretty clear what's happening.

2021
02:42:40,240 --> 02:42:46,960
But because of the way we restructure
things, I don't have a good handle on

2022
02:42:44,479 --> 02:42:52,880
when we did the restructuring
and chief is a whatever 35% above a

2023
02:42:51,200 --> 02:42:57,120
captain's payer, an assistant chief's
payer, whatever that is.

2024
02:42:55,600 --> 02:43:02,319
» Um,
if I I think I remember that that was

2025
02:42:59,359 --> 02:43:09,120
meant to reflect the relationship as it
was or as it should be. It wasn't

2026
02:43:04,640 --> 02:43:18,960
necessarily a tool to move compensation,
but In in the same time period, we also

2027
02:43:12,240 --> 02:43:25,280
have a a a new agreement that involved a
significant cola. And I'm trying to wrap

2028
02:43:21,200 --> 02:43:29,520
my brain around uh was there a move with
the indexing of things to what a captain

2029
02:43:27,439 --> 02:43:34,479
gets paid
and what a paramedic gets paid on the

2030
02:43:31,439 --> 02:43:39,680
two different levels and and did that
represent a change in compensation? And

2031
02:43:36,800 --> 02:43:46,880
then did that in essence stack with an
8% cola? Was that worked in before or

2032
02:43:43,040 --> 02:43:51,920
after? Or is it independent? And is it
appropriate for us to consider a step

2033
02:43:49,359 --> 02:43:57,279
change in addition or does that kind of
blow us out where we just went up and up

2034
02:43:54,800 --> 02:44:04,800
and now we're going up again?
>> So I can answer the first part. Jennifer

2035
02:43:59,279 --> 02:44:09,349
McCain, fire district controller. um the
restructuring of the current where the

2036
02:44:07,200 --> 02:44:14,000
pay schedule is now versus excuse
[clears throat] me where it was we went

2037
02:44:10,640 --> 02:44:21,439
from step seven steps to five steps. The
way we took the non-represented into

2038
02:44:17,279 --> 02:44:26,240
that structure is we followed a keystone
approach that we used within the union

2039
02:44:24,000 --> 02:44:30,640
and we pulled that down through all of
the non-represented

2040
02:44:27,920 --> 02:44:36,080
and that was based on the highest step.
So the step seven was adjusted to a step

2041
02:44:33,760 --> 02:44:41,279
five and then worked its way down to a
step one.

2042
02:44:38,000 --> 02:44:46,479
We then took where um the
non-represented employees what they were

2043
02:44:43,600 --> 02:44:52,399
currently getting paid on the sevenstep
plan and moved them to the closest and I

2044
02:44:50,080 --> 02:44:58,640
always say this wrong to the closest
step without taking away their pay on

2045
02:44:56,000 --> 02:45:06,080
the new schedule. So that that whole
process was not intended to give people

2046
02:45:03,040 --> 02:45:10,720
increases while some did see significant
especially if they were step one or

2047
02:45:07,760 --> 02:45:16,399
steps two we deleted those steps in
essence. Um then after everyone was

2048
02:45:13,680 --> 02:45:22,560
placed on the new schedule, then the
agreed upon um

2049
02:45:19,840 --> 02:45:25,439
I believe it was 8% that the union got
that was moved over to the

2050
02:45:23,840 --> 02:45:30,880
non-represented
which also does include the fire chief

2051
02:45:27,760 --> 02:45:36,479
as a non-represented employee. Um and
then the fivestep scale was adjusted by

2052
02:45:34,720 --> 02:45:44,160
8%.
At no way did was anything ever taken

2053
02:45:39,520 --> 02:45:50,720
into discussions about this new pay
schedule would eliminate anyone's merit

2054
02:45:46,720 --> 02:45:55,760
increase. So as far as that decision
goes, I can't speak to that. I can just

2055
02:45:53,359 --> 02:46:02,000
tell you that we did not discuss that.
Um, it was effective July 13th and

2056
02:45:59,840 --> 02:46:06,399
anyone who received they received a
merit increase on July 14th with that

2057
02:46:04,880 --> 02:46:10,640
never came to the board. It was
processed with their evaluations and

2058
02:46:08,640 --> 02:46:12,960
moved forward. Got it.
>> Okay.

2059
02:46:11,120 --> 02:46:18,479
» Thank you. Let me jump in real quick if
you don't mind. So, uh, I spoke with the

2060
02:46:16,319 --> 02:46:23,040
chief about my desire to postpone this
item. Um, it wasn't for any other reason

2061
02:46:21,200 --> 02:46:30,399
than I think exactly what you're talking
about. Um and and I think as I

2062
02:46:27,520 --> 02:46:35,200
rationalize it in my brain, um it's a
timing issue. In reality, this all is

2063
02:46:33,600 --> 02:46:40,960
happening at the same time.
>> Um as I expressed to the chief, you

2064
02:46:37,600 --> 02:46:48,319
know, um I just I thought that the
decision warranted a few minutes of of

2065
02:46:44,479 --> 02:46:51,760
reflection, right? Because we obviously
don't want to send the wrong message out

2066
02:46:49,760 --> 02:46:56,720
to the constituents. And as I explained
to the chief, the reality is right, if

2067
02:46:54,479 --> 02:47:01,760
something does happen to go sideways, we
are the ones that have to ask

2068
02:46:59,200 --> 02:47:08,600
or initiate an increase in tax to cover
the costs. And so in the conversation,

2069
02:47:05,120 --> 02:47:08,600
um I think

2070
02:47:09,120 --> 02:47:17,439
uh my my concern was that uh
you know, it's good now, but it's not

2071
02:47:15,359 --> 02:47:23,040
going to be okay in a year or two. and
and I believe that with the changes

2072
02:47:19,520 --> 02:47:26,000
we've made um
you know can't speak for the

2073
02:47:24,240 --> 02:47:30,800
organization but I think I think we're
in a good place financially as far as

2074
02:47:27,840 --> 02:47:35,439
salaries go and so um you know I'm
speaking of the department as a whole

2075
02:47:32,399 --> 02:47:41,120
not just the chief um you know my
understanding um I don't know that there

2076
02:47:37,600 --> 02:47:46,240
is an option if there was a desire um to
not give that merit increase which comes

2077
02:47:43,439 --> 02:47:51,920
with that 3%
am stating that correctly.

2078
02:47:48,880 --> 02:47:56,479
» Yeah. So, even if there was a desire,
let's say, to say, "Hey, we're not

2079
02:47:54,000 --> 02:48:00,160
comfortable with this type of increase."
Um, I don't know that we have that

2080
02:47:58,640 --> 02:48:03,760
option.
>> Oh, we have the option to behead him if

2081
02:48:01,920 --> 02:48:06,000
we want. That's what the thing said.
>> I mean, it's like

2082
02:48:04,720 --> 02:48:07,920
» I said mine shaft.
>> I know. I know. Yeah. [laughter]

2083
02:48:07,439 --> 02:48:12,880
» Um,
>> can I interject to your comments?

2084
02:48:10,479 --> 02:48:17,520
» Yeah. Um, historically,
given the fire chief or any other

2085
02:48:15,359 --> 02:48:24,319
employee within the fire district or the
county to not give a merit increase

2086
02:48:20,960 --> 02:48:27,120
would come down to having a below
average,

2087
02:48:25,040 --> 02:48:30,560
» right?
>> A finding of Thank you for

2088
02:48:29,040 --> 02:48:36,080
clarification. Yes.
>> Yeah, understood.

2089
02:48:33,279 --> 02:48:39,680
» Okay, great. Well, that that does help.
Okay. Thank you for bringing that up

2090
02:48:38,000 --> 02:48:42,880
because I obviously didn't verbalize my
private conversation.

2091
02:48:41,439 --> 02:48:45,520
» Probably would have been helpful.
>> No, it's quite all right. I'm glad you

2092
02:48:44,240 --> 02:48:47,279
didn't. That would have violated open
meeting.

2093
02:48:45,840 --> 02:48:49,600
» I would have brought it up sooner during
the meeting.

2094
02:48:47,840 --> 02:48:54,080
» And since you dragged me up here during
his review, I'll say during his first

2095
02:48:51,840 --> 02:49:00,720
year, financially speaking, it's been
really nice working with him. He's taken

2096
02:48:56,800 --> 02:49:04,399
a lot of um my comments and things to
heart and we've worked really well

2097
02:49:02,319 --> 02:49:09,600
together to bring the fire district
where he said it is. Thank you.

2098
02:49:07,120 --> 02:49:14,240
» Am I done?
>> All right. Uh, then with that, I will um

2099
02:49:12,560 --> 02:49:17,439
I will make a motion if it's all right.
>> Yeah. I think our deputy DA is still

2100
02:49:16,080 --> 02:49:22,240
laughing about the beheading thing.
>> Oh, I I meant it metaphorically on the

2101
02:49:19,760 --> 02:49:25,760
record, please. Metaphorically.
Uh, [laughter]

2102
02:49:24,160 --> 02:49:29,279
» we have insurance.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Do you want should we give

2103
02:49:27,520 --> 02:49:32,800
the chief a chance to
>> I'm sorry.

2104
02:49:31,200 --> 02:49:38,000
» Absolutely. Did you want to add
anything, chief, after we just

2105
02:49:35,600 --> 02:49:41,920
Bob riser for the record. Uh nice to
know my neck will still be intact and it

2106
02:49:39,840 --> 02:49:47,760
was metaphorical.
>> U [clears throat] it's been a very

2107
02:49:44,880 --> 02:49:53,359
challenging and rewarding year. Um
coming into it timing wise. I don't know

2108
02:49:50,800 --> 02:49:58,960
if it is worse this year or was worse
coming in in the middle of budget prep

2109
02:49:56,399 --> 02:50:05,359
should have already started. and a bunch
of those things that uh you find out

2110
02:50:02,080 --> 02:50:10,000
when you move from a spot one extra step
below

2111
02:50:07,359 --> 02:50:15,040
going from shift to 40 is a is a
significant transition.

2112
02:50:12,080 --> 02:50:19,439
I feel blessed that uh the relationship
with the department heads here uh

2113
02:50:17,439 --> 02:50:25,680
throughout the county is as good as it
is and to be able to reach out to any of

2114
02:50:21,920 --> 02:50:30,160
them at any point for help. And uh hey,
I don't know what I'm doing. Jennifer

2115
02:50:27,600 --> 02:50:35,840
and Brandy in particular
because I deal with them so frequently.

2116
02:50:33,120 --> 02:50:39,359
Um to be able to reach out to them and
say, "Hey, I don't know what I'm doing.

2117
02:50:37,840 --> 02:50:44,080
Um
where am I headed with this? give me

2118
02:50:40,880 --> 02:50:49,840
some grace um all the way through the
negotiations process and being able to

2119
02:50:47,840 --> 02:50:56,000
get that done. That's something that I
had done previously but never on this

2120
02:50:53,200 --> 02:51:02,160
scale. uh it was being a member of the
the negotiating team as opposed to being

2121
02:50:58,960 --> 02:51:07,760
particularly the lead of that
being able to reach out to you as the

2122
02:51:05,040 --> 02:51:11,520
commissioners. Um understanding the
shared responsibility for maintaining

2123
02:51:09,600 --> 02:51:16,640
the long term of the district because at
some point um the patch doesn't belong

2124
02:51:14,319 --> 02:51:21,520
to any of us. uh the fire district
belongs to the community and to make

2125
02:51:18,000 --> 02:51:27,439
sure that we're maintaining that. Um as
we talked about in last meeting, our our

2126
02:51:24,000 --> 02:51:30,800
very shared fiduciary responsibility to
make sure that we're doing the best by

2127
02:51:29,040 --> 02:51:35,520
our taxpayers
and I think that's been an important

2128
02:51:32,399 --> 02:51:41,600
aspect for me and always always should
be. So I'm very appreciative of the

2129
02:51:38,640 --> 02:51:47,200
opportunity. Um Commissioner Mitchell, I
take your your two areas of improvement

2130
02:51:44,080 --> 02:51:53,200
to heart. Um definitely one of them. You
know, calling sooner uh is something

2131
02:51:50,399 --> 02:51:57,680
that has been on my mind with uh the
events that we've had throughout the

2132
02:51:54,479 --> 02:52:00,880
year. It's also recognizing that the
things that sometimes I think are an

2133
02:51:59,279 --> 02:52:06,080
emergency
versus what normal, you know, healthy

2134
02:52:03,760 --> 02:52:09,680
functioning non-emergency responder
adults think are emergencies are not the

2135
02:52:08,080 --> 02:52:16,960
same thing.
Um, so I think that's something just as

2136
02:52:13,040 --> 02:52:22,000
a a big picture piece for me. Um, and
then engaging in the strategic CIP and

2137
02:52:20,319 --> 02:52:26,880
the development of the organization as a
whole, I think is is something that I

2138
02:52:24,479 --> 02:52:31,920
will also definitely be working on over
the next 12 months. Um, I feel more

2139
02:52:29,600 --> 02:52:36,880
comfortable in the position. Never too
comfortable. learn stuff every day and

2140
02:52:34,319 --> 02:52:42,479
firefighters and other community members
will challenge you consistently.

2141
02:52:40,720 --> 02:52:46,880
But I am I'm thankful for the
opportunity to continue in the position

2142
02:52:44,319 --> 02:52:51,640
if that's how you see fit.
>> Thank you. Appreciate those words.

2143
02:52:48,640 --> 02:52:51,640
Chief,

2144
02:52:53,040 --> 02:52:55,840
» are you ready?
>> All right, we'll let you slide one more

2145
02:52:55,439 --> 02:52:59,304
year.
>> One more year. [laughter]

2146
02:52:59,520 --> 02:53:05,680
Um
I fire Commissioner Mitchell move to

2147
02:53:04,000 --> 02:53:11,520
find
um

2148
02:53:07,520 --> 02:53:17,840
the performance of Fire Chief Riser for
this annual evaluation to be exemplary

2149
02:53:15,279 --> 02:53:23,160
or above average in all areas and to
award him the step increase as is

2150
02:53:20,160 --> 02:53:23,160
custom.

2151
02:53:24,000 --> 02:53:28,399
I
>> have a motion. Is there a second?

2152
02:53:26,560 --> 02:53:31,520
» Second.
All those in favor signify by saying I.

2153
02:53:31,040 --> 02:53:33,359
» I.
>> I.

2154
02:53:32,880 --> 02:53:38,640
» I.
>> Motion passes unanimously. I'm also told

2155
02:53:35,680 --> 02:53:42,880
by your next one, this physical, mental
health, professional competence might be

2156
02:53:40,640 --> 02:53:48,240
removed by the legislature. So, we'll
see. It won't sound as harsh next year.

2157
02:53:46,080 --> 02:53:49,359
Thank you, chief. All jokes aside, thank
you.

2158
02:53:48,560 --> 02:53:54,080
» Thank you very much.
>> Yep. On to item number 22, recess to

2159
02:53:52,479 --> 02:53:57,920
reconvene as the story county board of
county commissioners. Bring us to item

2160
02:53:55,520 --> 02:54:01,120
number 23. which is discussion for
possible action, consideration, and

2161
02:53:59,439 --> 02:54:06,720
possible approval of resolution number
26-837

2162
02:54:02,960 --> 02:54:09,760
amending resolution number 26-836
setting salaries for appointed

2163
02:54:08,080 --> 02:54:14,160
officials, non-represented employees,
and elected officials. Brandy,

2164
02:54:13,040 --> 02:54:20,160
» good afternoon once again,
commissioners. Brandy Lopez for the

2165
02:54:15,840 --> 02:54:25,120
record. Before today's resolution 26837,
which amends resolution 26836, the

2166
02:54:23,359 --> 02:54:30,960
proposed amendments includes the
addition of the geographic information

2167
02:54:28,080 --> 02:54:36,000
systems officer classification at a
grade 140. Um, an adjustment to the

2168
02:54:33,439 --> 02:54:41,200
undersher classification from grade 148
to a grade 150, a corresponding update

2169
02:54:39,439 --> 02:54:45,760
to the sheriff's salary as required by
NRS245.043.

2170
02:54:44,160 --> 02:54:49,680
The board will also need to determine
the effective date of the undersher

2171
02:54:47,680 --> 02:54:55,359
salary adjustment.
Staff has identified three options for

2172
02:54:51,760 --> 02:54:59,040
the board's consideration. Um July 13th,
which is the effective date previously

2173
02:54:57,040 --> 02:55:04,800
approved by the board for fiscal year
2627 salary adjustments for elected

2174
02:55:02,160 --> 02:55:08,720
officials, non-represented employees,
ASME and the sheriff's employees

2175
02:55:06,720 --> 02:55:14,080
association and the sheriff's
supervisory association. Um the second

2176
02:55:11,600 --> 02:55:18,319
would be July 1st which is retroactive
to the be to the beginning of the fiscal

2177
02:55:16,240 --> 02:55:22,960
year of 2627
and the third option is September 1st

2178
02:55:21,120 --> 02:55:29,120
effective the date of the board's
approval of this resolution for the

2179
02:55:25,520 --> 02:55:34,479
board's information 245.043 043
establishes the salaries of effect

2180
02:55:31,520 --> 02:55:38,960
elected officials other than other than
county commissioners in accordance with

2181
02:55:36,399 --> 02:55:43,359
the applicable provisions of the statute
for those elected offices whose salary

2182
02:55:41,279 --> 02:55:48,720
is tied to the highest paid employee
within the office. The annual salary is

2183
02:55:45,920 --> 02:55:52,040
established each July 1st in accordance
with NRS245.043.

2184
02:55:52,240 --> 02:56:00,640
As a result, if the employee salary used
in the that annual calculation changes,

2185
02:55:58,399 --> 02:56:04,080
the elected official salary must also be
adjusted accordingly. The proposed

2186
02:56:02,399 --> 02:56:10,160
amendment to the sheriff's salary
reflects the statutory requirement.

2187
02:56:08,080 --> 02:56:14,560
Um staff is requesting the board's
discussion and direction regarding the

2188
02:56:12,000 --> 02:56:19,120
effective date if appropriate approval
of the resolution 26837.

2189
02:56:17,717 --> 02:56:23,040
[snorts]
>> Thank you, Randy.

2190
02:56:21,840 --> 02:56:27,920
Commissioner Gilman, do you have any
questions or comments at this time?

2191
02:56:25,439 --> 02:56:32,240
» None. The vice chairman.
>> Um Brandy, just just to be clear, the

2192
02:56:30,000 --> 02:56:35,520
the the GIS officer is a new position
that we're creating that is not

2193
02:56:33,359 --> 02:56:38,319
currently filled. Uh whereas the other
changes for a position that already

2194
02:56:37,279 --> 02:56:42,007
exists. Is that correct?
>> Exactly. Yes.

2195
02:56:39,600 --> 02:56:42,007
» Thank you. [snorts]

2196
02:56:42,160 --> 02:56:45,399
Thank you.

2197
02:56:45,840 --> 02:56:52,000
Um I I have a question or two for the
sheriff if if you're comfortable coming

2198
02:56:49,920 --> 02:56:57,920
up and uh and and just giving a little
bit of context. You know, over the over

2199
02:56:53,359 --> 02:57:01,359
the last few years, we've um we've we've
there have been a a few changes,

2200
02:56:59,600 --> 02:57:04,160
multiple changes in roles, command
structure, some of those things. Would

2201
02:57:02,880 --> 02:57:09,279
you mind just giving a little bit of
context around what that progression has

2202
02:57:06,880 --> 02:57:13,920
been, where you think we're headed, if
you feel comfortable with where we are

2203
02:57:10,800 --> 02:57:18,080
now? uh lots of different titles trying
to understand just what you know what's

2204
02:57:16,160 --> 02:57:20,560
what the future holds for us as far as
that goes in within your your your

2205
02:57:20,080 --> 02:57:25,040
group.
>> Sure. Uh Sheriff Cullen for the record.

2206
02:57:22,800 --> 02:57:29,439
Thank you uh for the question actually.
Um yes, we have been up and down quite a

2207
02:57:27,279 --> 02:57:33,439
bit in the last few years trying to get
started with this agency and the change

2208
02:57:31,680 --> 02:57:38,640
in the county has caused a lot of that
also. um just recouping from the past

2209
02:57:36,880 --> 02:57:47,720
administration and trying to get things
in place, hiring uh deputies and

2210
02:57:42,160 --> 02:57:47,720
administrative staff and such. So um

2211
02:57:47,760 --> 02:57:54,640
some of the things that I I kind of
battle with is at one point we'll hire a

2212
02:57:53,040 --> 02:57:57,920
few deputies, too many deputies, we
don't have enough supervision, and then

2213
02:57:56,160 --> 02:58:01,359
we hire too much supervision or we
promote people without enough deputies

2214
02:57:59,279 --> 02:58:05,760
to supervise. And we're slowly going
through that grow growing pains, I

2215
02:58:03,439 --> 02:58:08,880
guess. Um
my vision for the future for the

2216
02:58:07,279 --> 02:58:12,479
sheriff's office because of the growth
and the size of the county and where

2217
02:58:10,160 --> 02:58:15,439
we're headed is to yes continue growing.
I think we're there with this last

2218
02:58:13,840 --> 02:58:20,319
fiscal year with the the number of
deputies. However, we need people to

2219
02:58:17,840 --> 02:58:24,960
supervise those folks and having our
lieutenant in charge of the jail and the

2220
02:58:22,720 --> 02:58:28,560
dispatch center overseeing that and
having our lieutenant in charge of the

2221
02:58:26,560 --> 02:58:34,240
patrol and the uh investigations
division that has pretty much set that

2222
02:58:31,600 --> 02:58:37,439
uh command staff in place and then we
would have our obviously our under

2223
02:58:35,600 --> 02:58:44,240
sheriff that is in charge of those two
lieutenants. Um those lieutenants each

2224
02:58:40,399 --> 02:58:49,040
right now uh one lieutenant supervises
uh six sergeants I'm sorry yeah four

2225
02:58:47,279 --> 02:58:54,240
sergeants and two detectives on the
patrol uh investigative side and the

2226
02:58:52,080 --> 02:58:58,800
other uh lieutenant supervises the
dispatch center and the jail as well and

2227
02:58:56,720 --> 02:59:03,040
in the jail we have two sergeants. So I
think the um the the ratio there for

2228
02:59:01,359 --> 02:59:09,359
command staff to deputy is just about
right. Um growthwise what I see in the

2229
02:59:06,160 --> 02:59:15,760
future is I do see some point uh in the
future where we're using the tri

2230
02:59:11,120 --> 02:59:19,439
substation as a mini north command that
may actually have a lieutenant in charge

2231
02:59:17,600 --> 02:59:23,920
out there at some point depending on the
growth. Um at this point we're not there

2232
02:59:21,600 --> 02:59:27,680
just yet but we are developing and
remodeling out there because of the

2233
02:59:26,160 --> 02:59:30,960
growth and the things that we're seeing
out there. And I think um Lieutenant

2234
02:59:29,120 --> 02:59:35,359
Bowmont gave you guys some information
this morning on just some of the things

2235
02:59:33,120 --> 02:59:38,560
we've been seeing and the the stats how
things are growing. So I think at this

2236
02:59:36,960 --> 02:59:42,399
point uh now that our command structure
is finally set with the sheriff and

2237
02:59:40,160 --> 02:59:46,240
under sheriff two lieutenants and then
the sergeants down the line I think

2238
02:59:43,680 --> 02:59:50,080
we're set in that upper echelon area.
Other than that um unless there's

2239
02:59:48,240 --> 02:59:54,240
something else that's
>> No, thank you. That's that's helpful.

2240
02:59:51,920 --> 02:59:58,080
» Okay. Um,
you know, the the other thing that's

2241
02:59:55,520 --> 03:00:03,600
been on my mind is is kind of a a
broader conversation and this is uh

2242
03:00:01,600 --> 03:00:07,279
coming up now because it's relevant to
you, Sheriff, but I think it's a broader

2243
03:00:05,040 --> 03:00:13,760
conversation because of a change that
was made at the legislature in elected

2244
03:00:10,479 --> 03:00:20,640
officials and compensation and and the
idea of there's some equity in indexing

2245
03:00:18,160 --> 03:00:25,600
uh a certain amount above the highest
paid supervised employee and I don't I

2246
03:00:24,000 --> 03:00:31,840
don't know and I think it should include
all all of our elected officials uh in

2247
03:00:30,080 --> 03:00:36,319
the interest of doing things properly,
ethically, transparently

2248
03:00:33,920 --> 03:00:39,920
um you know what what has happened with
that and I don't know if it was an

2249
03:00:37,680 --> 03:00:44,640
unintended consequence or is it was
intended but what has happened in

2250
03:00:42,240 --> 03:00:51,600
essence is elected officials have been
empowered to determine their own

2251
03:00:47,439 --> 03:00:56,080
compensation indirectly right And I
don't necessarily see that bad as a as a

2252
03:00:54,160 --> 03:01:02,560
whole. I think it's probably proper to
have some sort of uh indexing there. But

2253
03:01:00,160 --> 03:01:06,479
good governance in my mind is being
transparent about how we make sure that

2254
03:01:05,040 --> 03:01:11,040
we're being ethical, that we're not
taking advantage of that. And I want to

2255
03:01:08,960 --> 03:01:15,439
again state I'm not I'm not making any
sort of allegations. I just as we go

2256
03:01:13,439 --> 03:01:21,120
forward, I have a feeling that this will
come up in other elected officials

2257
03:01:18,000 --> 03:01:25,200
offices. And so I don't I don't know
what the proper discussion is to have. I

2258
03:01:23,680 --> 03:01:31,600
don't think it's necessarily right for
us to set a um a policy for the other

2259
03:01:29,680 --> 03:01:38,640
elected officials in how they deal with
that. But I think that coming up with

2260
03:01:34,640 --> 03:01:44,560
some sort of uh statement understanding
of um h how we make sure that that we

2261
03:01:43,040 --> 03:01:48,479
are holding ourselves to a high standard
and not taking advantage of that. I know

2262
03:01:46,720 --> 03:01:53,920
one of the things we do from a
perspective of trying to make sure that

2263
03:01:51,439 --> 03:01:59,439
we are fair and equitable with
non-represented positions is we comp

2264
03:01:57,200 --> 03:02:04,560
internally and externally. And so we
take a look at

2265
03:02:01,840 --> 03:02:08,240
within the or the county organization
h how does the the level of

2266
03:02:06,319 --> 03:02:12,560
responsibility and the duties compare to
those in other departments and how do we

2267
03:02:10,640 --> 03:02:16,479
make sure that we're in the ballpark of
of being equitable in that. And then we

2268
03:02:14,880 --> 03:02:20,880
do look outside the organization as well
to make sure we're competitive, that we

2269
03:02:17,920 --> 03:02:24,479
can attract and we can retain people.
Anyway, I just thought I thought it's

2270
03:02:22,880 --> 03:02:28,479
it's worth bringing up because I think
it's something that we will have happen

2271
03:02:26,479 --> 03:02:32,720
more. It'll it'll come to us for these
decisions and um and I'm I'm not

2272
03:02:31,040 --> 03:02:36,560
necessarily opposed to making sure that
people are properly compensated. I want

2273
03:02:34,160 --> 03:02:39,680
to make sure that that's the case. I
don't I just don't think we've ever had

2274
03:02:37,920 --> 03:02:44,319
this before and it it's happened on the
fire side because we just indexed

2275
03:02:41,600 --> 03:02:49,439
everything off of certain positions and
so now they're if you will indirect or

2276
03:02:46,640 --> 03:02:53,120
unintended consequences and with this
provision in law now there's the

2277
03:02:51,520 --> 03:02:57,200
potential for the same and that's not
necessarily you're welcome to to you

2278
03:02:55,680 --> 03:03:01,680
know give a response I'm not I'm not
necessarily

2279
03:02:58,000 --> 03:03:04,960
» I think my response is one
>> no

2280
03:03:03,520 --> 03:03:07,600
items on the agenda
>> one

2281
03:03:05,920 --> 03:03:12,240
Um, you bring up a pretty good point and
it was brought up at the legislature

2282
03:03:09,040 --> 03:03:16,399
that there is potential for this to to
happen. And I mean, you know, like we

2283
03:03:14,000 --> 03:03:21,120
talked with the fire district, you know,
the the creation of this lieutenant

2284
03:03:18,960 --> 03:03:26,000
structure
immediately increases the pay of the

2285
03:03:23,200 --> 03:03:29,680
assistant sheriff, which then
increases the pay of the sheriff, you

2286
03:03:28,080 --> 03:03:33,920
know, and I think it's a very valid
question. Um, and I think that's where

2287
03:03:31,920 --> 03:03:39,040
the question came about structure in the
sheriff's office is, you know, what are

2288
03:03:36,000 --> 03:03:44,880
we going to do? Because, you know, um, I
thought that the assistant sheriff was

2289
03:03:41,680 --> 03:03:48,240
fairly well compensated as is,
and now because of this new lieutenant

2290
03:03:46,720 --> 03:03:52,880
structure,
the assistant sheriff's getting a pay

2291
03:03:50,160 --> 03:03:56,240
increase, as is the sheriff. So, thank
you for bringing it up because I think

2292
03:03:54,319 --> 03:03:59,760
it's on other people's minds as well
outside the county. I know I've talked

2293
03:03:57,600 --> 03:04:03,760
to some folks that were concerned about
this salary uh with the way that they

2294
03:04:01,920 --> 03:04:08,000
had laid out the salary structure being
3% higher than the higher highest paid

2295
03:04:06,000 --> 03:04:12,160
person in your office. And so it's
something we've got to think of because

2296
03:04:10,080 --> 03:04:16,640
as I spoke with the fire chief, you
know, we're on an upward trajectory and

2297
03:04:14,720 --> 03:04:21,760
and
that upward trajectory doesn't continue

2298
03:04:19,439 --> 03:04:26,640
forever. At some point things are going
to play, you know, level out at the

2299
03:04:23,279 --> 03:04:30,080
park. construction is going to basically
taper off at some point um because

2300
03:04:28,800 --> 03:04:34,720
they're going to run out of land or
projects and then that puts us in a

2301
03:04:31,920 --> 03:04:38,560
situation where you know are we now so
employeeheavy that we got to start

2302
03:04:36,560 --> 03:04:42,240
laying people off um and hopefully
that's not the case but it's something

2303
03:04:40,000 --> 03:04:46,000
that I I think we're all paying
attention to. I again have spoke

2304
03:04:44,160 --> 03:04:50,399
directly to the chief about this. I have
not spoken to the sheriff about this,

2305
03:04:47,520 --> 03:04:54,800
but you know, we're we're ramping up.
Um, as was stated at the last event I

2306
03:04:52,640 --> 03:05:00,880
went to, there's 3,600 electricians out
there right now. And, you know, I'm sure

2307
03:04:57,760 --> 03:05:05,359
they're not all stellar citizens, you
know, that cause problems for the

2308
03:05:02,160 --> 03:05:08,960
sheriff's office. But, you know, I think
it's definitely something to keep in

2309
03:05:06,800 --> 03:05:12,880
mind as we continue this growth that at
some point it's going to level out. If

2310
03:05:11,439 --> 03:05:16,000
these data centers are all built out
there, they're going to have 20, 30

2311
03:05:14,160 --> 03:05:20,880
people working there, you know, and a
lot of the workforce is going to go

2312
03:05:17,600 --> 03:05:24,319
away, which is going to reduce our need
to be out there. But anyway, didn't mean

2313
03:05:22,960 --> 03:05:25,920
to cut you off. Just wanted to make sure
I said

2314
03:05:24,640 --> 03:05:28,479
» Sorry, I think I cut you off.
>> That's okay. I didn't want to point it

2315
03:05:26,880 --> 03:05:33,439
out, but I was trying to be nice.
>> I won't either. Um, Jennifer McCain,

2316
03:05:31,120 --> 03:05:36,800
Story County controller. Um, I just want
to alleviate some of your worries

2317
03:05:35,040 --> 03:05:41,120
because I can't speak for other
counties, but within Story County, we do

2318
03:05:39,200 --> 03:05:49,279
have checks and balances for these kind
of situations between my office and HR

2319
03:05:44,560 --> 03:05:54,720
and the county manager. And um, for this
under sheriff position specifically, HR

2320
03:05:52,399 --> 03:06:00,640
did an external compensation study and
then we all met and we did an internal

2321
03:05:57,359 --> 03:06:06,960
compensation study. So, we do have
avenues to keep those second in command

2322
03:06:04,800 --> 03:06:13,200
or highest paid employees within a
department in check. And um I can verify

2323
03:06:11,200 --> 03:06:19,680
that and I think Brandy can speak to
this too, that that underpay uh under

2324
03:06:16,240 --> 03:06:24,080
sheriff new schedule was not necessarily
what the sheriff's office was looking

2325
03:06:21,439 --> 03:06:29,520
at. But when we combine the external
internal compensations, that's where it

2326
03:06:26,240 --> 03:06:34,399
fell and that's where um we stood our
ground on that. So I think that I hope

2327
03:06:32,399 --> 03:06:37,279
that eases your mind a little bit on
those kinds of things.

2328
03:06:35,520 --> 03:06:40,720
» It does. Thank you. You know, I mean,
because obviously like we've said with

2329
03:06:38,880 --> 03:06:44,240
the fire district, at the end of the
day, we're the ones that hear it. I'm

2330
03:06:42,399 --> 03:06:47,680
sure you guys do, too. But,
>> you know, it's, oh my god, there's new

2331
03:06:46,240 --> 03:06:51,920
everything everywhere. You know, what's
going on? It's like,

2332
03:06:49,600 --> 03:06:55,279
» you know, how how can I try to, you
know, drill this down so that you

2333
03:06:53,520 --> 03:07:00,160
understand and it doesn't look like
we're just, you know, living fat on the

2334
03:06:58,319 --> 03:07:03,439
county side.
>> That's very true. And I think when you

2335
03:07:01,840 --> 03:07:07,920
do get those questions, either
forwarding those people to one of our

2336
03:07:05,359 --> 03:07:13,279
offices or calling us like both of you
have done, all three of you have done,

2337
03:07:10,080 --> 03:07:17,359
um, is really important. I think we can
share those compensation studies with

2338
03:07:15,520 --> 03:07:21,680
you and show you how we come to those
numbers.

2339
03:07:19,120 --> 03:07:24,800
» Appreciate it.
>> Um, after some discussion, Commissioner

2340
03:07:23,520 --> 03:07:27,880
Gilman, do you have anything to add at
this point?

2341
03:07:29,840 --> 03:07:35,600
» Probably nothing of relevance at this
point. You know, I just know that things

2342
03:07:33,520 --> 03:07:41,319
are going to get worse before they get
better. So, you know, I understand

2343
03:07:37,520 --> 03:07:41,319
having to different

2344
03:07:41,920 --> 03:07:44,920
understand

2345
03:07:46,160 --> 03:07:54,479
you know where does it end and whatnot
as far as I know the park is maybe sold

2346
03:07:52,319 --> 03:08:00,880
out but it's not built out and so I
think there's many many years

2347
03:07:57,840 --> 03:08:07,920
building out here and having
construction workers in electrician far

2348
03:08:05,920 --> 03:08:14,160
so I don't think at this point that
concerns me as much but I do understand

2349
03:08:12,640 --> 03:08:16,880
Thank you,
>> Vice Chairman.

2350
03:08:16,000 --> 03:08:21,920
» Questions, comments?
>> No, no. I I I would just say I agree.

2351
03:08:18,800 --> 03:08:26,880
You know, I'm I I think our I think my
my main concern is is less about the

2352
03:08:24,240 --> 03:08:31,040
availability of funds and more about
making sure that we're doing this right

2353
03:08:28,880 --> 03:08:34,640
and that we are responsible and that
we're ethical and that we do things

2354
03:08:32,640 --> 03:08:40,000
properly. I think to me that's the
standard that we hold ourselves to and

2355
03:08:37,200 --> 03:08:44,640
um and as new elements are introduced
it's worth a good 360 look at them to go

2356
03:08:42,960 --> 03:08:48,720
hey are we making sure that we're doing
this properly and that we have the

2357
03:08:46,720 --> 03:08:56,560
proper checks and balances and controls
in place so that um so that we're

2358
03:08:52,560 --> 03:09:00,279
operating beyond our reproach.
>> Is there any public comment?

2359
03:09:00,479 --> 03:09:05,040
All right. Not seeing any. Vice
Chairman, you prepare to make a motion?

2360
03:09:03,439 --> 03:09:09,439
» Yeah. Uh, I, Commissioner Mitchell, move
to approve resolution number 26-833,

2361
03:09:07,840 --> 03:09:15,279
establishing salaries for appointed
officials, non-represented employees,

2362
03:09:11,439 --> 03:09:18,279
and elected officials effective July 13,
2026.

2363
03:09:19,359 --> 03:09:25,760
» And Mr. Chairman, since we didn't
discuss that, may maybe we want to open

2364
03:09:22,640 --> 03:09:30,800
it up for discussion. Um,
>> maybe should have mentioned it.

2365
03:09:27,279 --> 03:09:36,880
» Thank you. Um,
so I uh don't have a problem making it

2366
03:09:34,479 --> 03:09:40,720
effective today.
You know, I mean, we made the decision

2367
03:09:38,240 --> 03:09:45,120
today. I know we postpone this, but that
in my opinion, that doesn't necessarily

2368
03:09:42,720 --> 03:09:47,439
just immediately warrant, you know, that
we backdated it because we postponed it.

2369
03:09:47,120 --> 03:09:52,960
» Sure.
>> That that's, you know, that's my only

2370
03:09:50,240 --> 03:09:56,960
change I would say to that. But
>> yeah, I'm I'm comfortable with that as

2371
03:09:54,640 --> 03:10:01,040
well. Um, I I think my my natural
inclination was to lean towards July

2372
03:09:58,479 --> 03:10:05,040
13th because that is the date that we
made adjustments for everyone else in

2373
03:10:02,720 --> 03:10:09,040
the county and so that's that seemed
equitable to me and and so that that was

2374
03:10:07,680 --> 03:10:11,920
kind of where my thought process was,
but I'm flexible.

2375
03:10:10,160 --> 03:10:15,359
» I'm It's not a sword I'm going to die on
either. So,

2376
03:10:13,680 --> 03:10:18,240
» does Johnny have any
>> I'm sorry, Commissioner Gilman, do you

2377
03:10:16,720 --> 03:10:23,880
have any input on that? Do you want to
make it effective July 13th or do you

2378
03:10:20,000 --> 03:10:23,880
want to make it effective today?

2379
03:10:25,359 --> 03:10:31,479
So
I second it.

2380
03:10:33,439 --> 03:10:38,319
» Sounds good. So we got a motion and a
second. All those in favor signify by

2381
03:10:37,200 --> 03:10:41,120
saying I.
>> I.

2382
03:10:39,040 --> 03:10:44,319
» I.
>> Motion passes unanimously. Is that a

2383
03:10:43,200 --> 03:10:47,040
problem?
>> We good.

2384
03:10:45,520 --> 03:10:49,120
» Did he?
>> July 13th.

2385
03:10:48,240 --> 03:10:51,680
» July 13th.
>> That's what was said in the motion.

2386
03:10:50,160 --> 03:10:59,760
» Um it looks like in the motion, did you
say 833?

2387
03:10:54,479 --> 03:11:02,800
26833. It should be 23 26837.
>> Oh, yeah. My apologies. On the

2388
03:11:01,200 --> 03:11:04,399
recommended motion, it looks like
there's a typo.

2389
03:11:03,760 --> 03:11:08,000
» Yeah.
>> Because you made a motion. Do you need

2390
03:11:05,920 --> 03:11:13,520
to reopen? Should we ask Brian?
>> Brian, what would you like us to do?

2391
03:11:10,880 --> 03:11:17,439
» Yeah, you should reopen and make another
motion

2392
03:11:15,120 --> 03:11:23,520
that is more clear.
>> Okay.

2393
03:11:20,319 --> 03:11:27,120
So, we're going to deal with item number
23,

2394
03:11:25,040 --> 03:11:31,800
discussion for possible action uh
regarding resolution number 26-836.

2395
03:11:31,920 --> 03:11:35,840
» 837 837.
>> I know there are three different numbers

2396
03:11:35,120 --> 03:11:39,680
in here.
>> Yeah. Mr. Chairman, I'll make a motion.

2397
03:11:37,520 --> 03:11:43,560
I Commissioner Mitchell move to approve
resolution number 26-837

2398
03:11:44,160 --> 03:11:50,240
establishing salaries for appointed
officials, non-represented employees,

2399
03:11:47,840 --> 03:11:54,800
and elected officials effective July 13,
2026. Mr. Chair, before you make a

2400
03:11:52,960 --> 03:11:59,120
second, I just want to ask does Brian
need to pine need to do public comment

2401
03:11:57,040 --> 03:12:05,920
again? I know it's technical, but I want
to write. Thank you.

2402
03:12:03,040 --> 03:12:11,160
» At this point, we don't need to redo
public comment. the reopen.

2403
03:12:12,800 --> 03:12:17,359
» So, there's a motion. Do we have a
second?

2404
03:12:15,840 --> 03:12:20,240
» Second.
>> All those in favor signify by saying I.

2405
03:12:19,680 --> 03:12:22,240
» I.
>> I.

2406
03:12:21,760 --> 03:12:26,000
» I.
>> Motion passes unanimously. Thank you,

2407
03:12:24,640 --> 03:12:28,000
Sheriff. Thank you, Brandy. Thank you,
Jennifer.

2408
03:12:27,520 --> 03:12:33,279
» Sorry.
>> July, July.

2409
03:12:31,760 --> 03:12:36,240
» All right. On to item number 24.
Discussion for possible action.

2410
03:12:34,560 --> 03:12:41,600
Consideration and possible approval of a
letter of support from Story County to

2411
03:12:38,640 --> 03:12:44,479
the FK regarding the Great Basin
Transmission Company 2028 expansion

2412
03:12:43,680 --> 03:12:47,680
project.
>> Good morning, Lisa Mel for the record.

2413
03:12:46,479 --> 03:12:52,399
» Good afternoon, [clears throat] Lisa.
>> Hello again. Uh Great Basin Gas

2414
03:12:50,800 --> 03:12:57,120
Transmission Company reached out
requesting a letter of support for their

2415
03:12:54,880 --> 03:13:03,920
expansion and the replacement project
that they're doing out in the Tri area.

2416
03:12:59,840 --> 03:13:08,479
Um this expansion line will help um for
in infrastructure

2417
03:13:06,160 --> 03:13:12,399
and the continued industrial growth
that's going on out there at Great

2418
03:13:09,760 --> 03:13:16,800
Basin. Um they've Great Basin Gas has
been very helpful in the fact that they

2419
03:13:14,960 --> 03:13:21,520
have been calling and requesting
permission before they go out onto any

2420
03:13:18,640 --> 03:13:25,359
county properties and doing their due
diligence requesting any information

2421
03:13:23,200 --> 03:13:30,319
that they need on property owners. So
they've been pretty pretty nice to be in

2422
03:13:27,520 --> 03:13:33,520
communications with. Um, additionally,
Churchill County and some other

2423
03:13:31,680 --> 03:13:37,920
departments have already submitted or
other counties have already submitted a

2424
03:13:35,040 --> 03:13:42,239
letter of support to Great Basin as
well.

2425
03:13:40,399 --> 03:13:46,399
» Thank you, Commissioner Gman. Do you
have any questions or comments?

2426
03:13:45,040 --> 03:13:50,239
» None. Thank you,
>> Vice Chairman.

2427
03:13:48,080 --> 03:13:55,359
» Um, thank you, Lisa. Did I did I see a
discussion in here somewhere that um of

2428
03:13:52,399 --> 03:13:59,279
the possibility to
uh express a preference for a preferred

2429
03:13:57,680 --> 03:14:02,160
alternative or at this point is the
story county connection baked into the

2430
03:14:00,960 --> 03:14:06,479
project?
>> So, this is kind of it that I'm aware

2431
03:14:04,800 --> 03:14:10,720
of. I think they've already been going
through it. Um we've come to

2432
03:14:09,040 --> 03:14:17,200
commissioners for approval for them to
access our property, but no alternative

2433
03:14:14,640 --> 03:14:21,120
alternatives have been presented to us
from from there. But I know that it

2434
03:14:19,359 --> 03:14:24,560
started initially with communication
that I had with them was to replace the

2435
03:14:23,040 --> 03:14:29,120
aging infrastructure that they had out
there for the gas lines.

2436
03:14:26,080 --> 03:14:31,359
» Got it. Okay. Thank you. Yeah, as I as I
look through some of the dates and

2437
03:14:30,000 --> 03:14:35,439
things, I think they they started the
environmental several months ago and so

2438
03:14:33,840 --> 03:14:40,560
they're they're probably down that path
a bit. Um yeah, I you know I I think

2439
03:14:37,920 --> 03:14:48,560
that in the future availability of
energy uh is is going to be a big uh

2440
03:14:45,359 --> 03:14:52,880
deal for us. And what I mean by that is
prosperity is tied to the availability

2441
03:14:50,319 --> 03:14:57,439
of energy and we can wish that we had
alternative ways to produce it. Um but

2442
03:14:56,160 --> 03:15:02,560
those a lot of those have not
materialized yet and so I think an

2443
03:14:59,200 --> 03:15:10,080
expansion of of a gas line gives us that
flexibility and stability in the future.

2444
03:15:07,120 --> 03:15:15,680
» All right.
Um any public comment?

2445
03:15:14,160 --> 03:15:18,080
Not seeing any by Sherman. Are you
prepared to make a motion?

2446
03:15:16,720 --> 03:15:22,239
» Yeah. I, Commissioner Mitchell, move to
approve a letter of support from Story

2447
03:15:20,239 --> 03:15:28,000
County to the Federal Energy Regulatory
Commission or FK regarding the Great

2448
03:15:24,800 --> 03:15:32,680
Basin Gas Transmission Company's 2028
expansion project docket number

2449
03:15:29,680 --> 03:15:32,680
PF26-5-0000.

2450
03:15:36,160 --> 03:15:39,920
» There's a motion and a second. All those
in favor signify by saying I.

2451
03:15:39,439 --> 03:15:44,720
» I.
>> I.

2452
03:15:41,680 --> 03:15:48,479
» Motion passes unanimously. Thanks, Lisa.
On item number 25, which is discussion

2453
03:15:47,040 --> 03:15:52,960
of possible action, discussion and
possible consideration adopting the

2454
03:15:50,000 --> 03:15:57,760
story county hazard mitigation plan
update as prepared by emergency

2455
03:15:55,200 --> 03:16:00,960
management staff approved by Nevada's
office of emer management and FEMA.

2456
03:16:00,160 --> 03:16:05,040
Adam.
>> Okay. So, this plan has been two years

2457
03:16:02,560 --> 03:16:09,760
in the works. It took us about 14 months
to rewrite and update the plan and then

2458
03:16:07,520 --> 03:16:15,120
it went to state office of emergency
management for review. They took a year

2459
03:16:12,560 --> 03:16:21,200
to complete that, which was just
absolutely unprecedented.

2460
03:16:19,040 --> 03:16:25,840
It went to FEMA. They had some
modifications they want to make because

2461
03:16:23,279 --> 03:16:32,800
of the 2-year period. A lot had changed.
We got those completed and were notified

2462
03:16:29,279 --> 03:16:37,279
by FEMA that they have approved the plan
pending adoption by the county. They

2463
03:16:35,520 --> 03:16:41,760
have to have that before they issue
their final approval. So they need your

2464
03:16:40,000 --> 03:16:47,760
signature as the county commission
adopting the hazard mitigation plan.

2465
03:16:44,640 --> 03:16:54,560
Once we get that and then FEMA approves
it, we become eligible again for the uh

2466
03:16:51,439 --> 03:16:58,560
hazard mitigation assistance grants.
Until the plan is approved in that

2467
03:16:56,560 --> 03:17:03,520
window, we are no longer eligible for
those grants. If our plan expires, which

2468
03:17:01,680 --> 03:17:08,479
our plan did expire because of the
state's uh delay in getting it sent to

2469
03:17:06,560 --> 03:17:14,800
FEMA. So, as of right now, we are not
eligible for hazard mitigation grants

2470
03:17:10,479 --> 03:17:20,239
until FEMA formally adopts this one.
Uh, this was a mutual input from all

2471
03:17:18,080 --> 03:17:25,279
county departments. We did public
surveys,

2472
03:17:22,080 --> 03:17:30,560
outside agency input, best practices on
this plan, and we're comfortable with

2473
03:17:27,439 --> 03:17:35,520
the county adopting this.
>> All right. Thank you, Adam. Appreciate

2474
03:17:32,319 --> 03:17:38,800
your work and your team's work on this.
Commissioner Gilman, do you have any

2475
03:17:36,560 --> 03:17:41,439
questions or comments?
>> No, thank you.

2476
03:17:39,600 --> 03:17:45,200
» Vice Chairman.
>> Um, no. I just want to congratulate

2477
03:17:43,359 --> 03:17:49,520
congratulate you, Adam, on probably
single-handedly making this one of, if

2478
03:17:47,040 --> 03:17:53,840
not the biggest packets we've ever had.
>> Uh, it's not only his fault. It was the

2479
03:17:51,680 --> 03:17:58,239
50 emails to Sunny Hills.
>> Oh, that's right. There was Yes. So,

2480
03:17:55,760 --> 03:18:02,319
» this is the uh redacted version as well.
The confidential version is much longer.

2481
03:18:00,560 --> 03:18:06,880
It has a lot of maps and critical
infrastructure aspects to it. Very good.

2482
03:18:05,600 --> 03:18:10,319
I can't imagine what we've done these
past few years without mitigating our

2483
03:18:08,319 --> 03:18:14,080
hazards. Uh but somehow we've muddled
through and I'll be glad to have a plan

2484
03:18:12,239 --> 03:18:20,319
in place going forward. Thank you.
>> Amen. Is there any public comment?

2485
03:18:18,720 --> 03:18:24,880
Not seeing any public comment. Vice
Chairman, you prepared to make a motion?

2486
03:18:22,160 --> 03:18:27,760
» I am.
>> Sorry, my phone thought you were talking

2487
03:18:26,239 --> 03:18:31,520
to it.
Um, I, Commissioner Mitchell, move to

2488
03:18:29,600 --> 03:18:37,479
proceed with approval and adoption of
the 2025 Story County Hazard Mitigation

2489
03:18:34,479 --> 03:18:37,479
Plan.

2490
03:18:38,640 --> 03:18:42,560
» Second.
>> There's a motion and a second. All those

2491
03:18:40,720 --> 03:18:44,640
in favor signify by saying I.
>> I.

2492
03:18:43,040 --> 03:18:46,800
» I.
>> I.

2493
03:18:45,040 --> 03:18:50,080
» Motion passes unanimously. Thank you
again, Adam, to you and Tristan.

2494
03:18:48,239 --> 03:18:53,760
» Just as a reminder, Mr. Chair, they'll
be sending a docu sign to you for that

2495
03:18:53,279 --> 03:18:57,439
on it
>> for the adoption. Thank you.

2496
03:18:55,520 --> 03:19:01,040
» Thank you.
On item number 27, discussion for

2497
03:18:59,439 --> 03:19:05,680
possible action, consideration and
approval of second reading of business

2498
03:19:02,560 --> 03:19:09,760
licenses A through M.
Commissioner Gilman, you have any

2499
03:19:06,800 --> 03:19:11,920
questions or comments?
>> Vice Chairman?

2500
03:19:10,800 --> 03:19:17,439
» I think we're good.
>> All right. Is there any public comment?

2501
03:19:15,920 --> 03:19:20,239
Not seeing any. Vice Chairman, you
prepared to make a motion?

2502
03:19:18,720 --> 03:19:25,359
» Yeah. I move to approve the second
reading of business licenses listed

2503
03:19:21,920 --> 03:19:29,600
under item 27 as A through M.
>> Second. There's a motion and a second.

2504
03:19:27,520 --> 03:19:31,600
All those in favor signify by saying I.
>> I.

2505
03:19:30,080 --> 03:19:34,560
» I.
>> I.

2506
03:19:32,000 --> 03:19:39,120
» Motion passes unanimously. On to item
number 28. This the second and final

2507
03:19:36,239 --> 03:19:43,239
time for public comment. Is there any
public comment in the courtroom today?

2508
03:19:43,279 --> 03:19:49,120
Not seeing any. Brings us to item number
29, which is adjournment of all active

2509
03:19:47,359 --> 03:19:56,800
and recess boards on the agenda. It's
1:24 p.m. We will see you all in a

2510
03:19:51,840 --> 03:19:56,800
couple weeks. Have a great day.

2511
03:19:58,319 --> 03:20:04,359
Oh, we have close session.
>> No, [laughter] I was like

2512
03:20:04,800 --> 03:20:13,439
sign of support and then I'll send Dr. I
guess.

2513
03:20:10,560 --> 03:20:18,000
» Okay.
>> Thank you.

2514
03:20:16,000 --> 03:20:20,753
» Carrying a pen chairman.
>> Awesome. Thank you. [snorts]

2515
03:20:34,800 --> 03:20:39,200
No, there's a couple things that you say
together

2516
03:20:37,760 --> 03:20:44,399
» and I appreciate you saying it because I
don't think I could.

2517
03:20:41,680 --> 03:20:44,399
» Thank you.

2518
03:20:51,520 --> 03:20:54,520
Jack.

2519
03:20:59,359 --> 03:21:06,040
» Thank you.
>> Start getting that out to

2520
03:21:06,080 --> 03:21:09,239
» the space

2521
03:21:10,080 --> 03:21:18,279
install until
Five or seven people working in that

2522
03:21:15,279 --> 03:21:18,279
office.

2523
03:21:18,479 --> 03:21:26,800
» Anyway,
>> you going tonight?

2524
03:21:24,239 --> 03:21:29,920
» A sign around my neck that says, "Ask me
about flock cameras and data centers."

2525
03:21:28,399 --> 03:21:32,479
Just kidding. Ask me about industrial
development data centers. Ask me

2526
03:21:31,840 --> 03:21:36,640
anything.
>> Don't joke around. [laughter]

2527
03:21:35,520 --> 03:21:38,880
» Sure.
>> What do you need them for?

2528
03:21:37,680 --> 03:21:42,319
» Thank you, guys. I'm going to need to
wear that outside. Yes. And