1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:08,960 Let me know when you're ready. Nico Marie. One, two, three, four, five, six, 2 00:00:06,560 --> 00:00:13,920 seven, eight, nine. And then, uh, 3 00:00:11,519 --> 00:00:17,480 » Regina's online. She makes 10. Uh, can you hear us online? 4 00:00:19,039 --> 00:00:27,439 » Yep. Loud and clear. >> Excellent. Thank you. All right. 5 00:00:25,359 --> 00:00:33,120 Uh, good evening. It's Tuesday, August 11th, 2026. This is the Stoden City 6 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:37,600 Council meeting and the first order of business will be the roll call which is 7 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:41,239 going to be done by Nicole Marie. >> Uh Alder Ael 8 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:46,640 » absent. Uh Alder Butler 9 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,440 » here. >> Alder Caravello 10 00:00:48,239 --> 00:00:52,480 » here. >> Alder Hirs 11 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,399 » here. >> Alder Jensen 12 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,399 » here. >> Alder Nino 13 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,600 » here. >> Alder Reeves 14 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,520 » here. Alder Sherlock >> here. 15 00:01:00,239 --> 00:01:03,280 » Alder Schumacher >> here. 16 00:01:02,239 --> 00:01:06,720 » Alder Tillison >> here. 17 00:01:04,159 --> 00:01:11,280 » Alder Vinn Bian new is absent and excused. Alder Wnjak Scanland 18 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:15,200 » here. >> We have 10 elders. 19 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:19,360 » All right. Thank you for that. Um clerk's out doing elections tonight. So 20 00:01:17,119 --> 00:01:24,560 if you haven't voted, uh you still have an hour. Um we are certified in 21 00:01:22,159 --> 00:01:28,720 compliance with open meeting laws. Uh so that would take us to public comment. I 22 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:33,759 think there's at least one person signed up to speak. Three. All right. Who would 23 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:36,759 like to go first? Come on up to the podium. 24 00:01:38,479 --> 00:01:44,400 » All right. You know the routine, right? >> Good evening. 25 00:01:42,799 --> 00:01:47,040 » Push the button there. >> There we go. 26 00:01:44,960 --> 00:01:52,000 » I should know by now. Okay. Good evening. Um, I want to thank the mayor 27 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:56,799 and the council for taking relatively swift action by ending the flock 28 00:01:54,079 --> 00:02:01,920 contract and ensuring that the cameras were disabled in short time. Alder 29 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:07,680 Jensen, I want to thank you. There you are. uh for making a motion uh at uh to 30 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:13,040 recommend a resolution in the public safety commission and Alder Tillison, if 31 00:02:11,039 --> 00:02:19,040 I'm pronouncing that right. Thank you for your amendment to cover the cameras 32 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:24,160 within 48 hours. Your comedic suggestion to set them on fire may not be recorded 33 00:02:20,879 --> 00:02:29,599 in the minutes, but will be remembered. Those of us publicly opposing Flock are 34 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:34,239 aware that making statements like that and taking any action against the 35 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:39,599 corporation actually comes with risk, especially with all due respect for 36 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:46,239 anyone who is not a white male in a position of power. And Flock's CEO 37 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:51,519 called anti-lack activists terrorists. And we live under an administration that 38 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:55,920 has redefined domestic terrorism to include anti- capitalists and people who 39 00:02:54,000 --> 00:03:01,920 disagree with the administration on issues related to immigration, race, and 40 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:07,280 gender. Knowing you will take a risk with us by making a remark like that is 41 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:11,040 no joke and it matters. You may or may not know that Flock 42 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:17,040 officials watched the city council meeting on June 23rd. We learned this 43 00:03:14,239 --> 00:03:21,760 through a public records request. In an email dated June 24th, a flock 44 00:03:19,920 --> 00:03:26,959 representative wrote to the police department and said that he and his 45 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:32,959 director had tuned in to the meet to watch the meeting. The email resulted in 46 00:03:30,159 --> 00:03:38,159 a scheduled call to discuss strategy for protecting the contract. 47 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:44,239 Chief Hill is not here, but I've heard him report staffing issues and that 48 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:50,720 these record requests have been taxing. And I know that he's hiring primarily 49 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:56,879 from activity on Facebook. In fact, just days after Corey Ruiz was murdered by a 50 00:03:54,000 --> 00:04:02,159 Madison police officer, Stoton Police Department announced its open 51 00:03:58,959 --> 00:04:09,599 application by posting a picture on Facebook that said, "Feel the love." And 52 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:15,200 below it, it said, "Are you an officer not feeling the love from the community 53 00:04:11,439 --> 00:04:22,479 you work for?" Stoen PD is hiring and welcomes welcomecommens you to apply as 54 00:04:18,959 --> 00:04:29,360 a lateral transfer. Use the link below to escape to Stoton. 55 00:04:27,199 --> 00:04:35,919 I wish he was here because I would ask him if that was sarcasm. 56 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:40,080 Was this part of some kind of blue code? Was this the true sentiment our police 57 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:45,600 department was willing to put out on public displays 58 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:54,320 after the world watched MPD respond to a call reporting nonviolent suspicious 59 00:04:49,520 --> 00:05:00,160 behavior of a black man on a bicycle with and they responded with dangerous 60 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:03,919 and deadly violence. As a friend said, they may as well have 61 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:09,039 just said catching some heat after shooting someone in the street. No 62 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:14,639 worries, we've got you. This post was removed from Facebook. We 63 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:20,320 have screenshots. I'm assuming it's because someone noted 64 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:23,919 just how offensive it was. The city of Stoton has some reckoning to 65 00:05:22,479 --> 00:05:28,960 do. The live feed camera pointing directly 66 00:05:25,919 --> 00:05:34,960 at Cascade Falls entrance and exit was plenty of evidence that our leadership 67 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:40,960 is not considering the history and impact of overpolicing on communities of 68 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:44,960 color since policing began in our country. 69 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:51,639 The content of this Facebook post was insensitive at best, horrifying at 70 00:05:48,639 --> 00:05:51,639 worst. 71 00:05:53,600 --> 00:06:00,120 Racial disparities in policing is documented everywhere. 72 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:11,600 Harmful culture, including white supremacy within police networks and 73 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:20,479 departments, is also highly documented. We can't assume we are the exception. 74 00:06:15,840 --> 00:06:26,720 I want to know that our city is going to address this to ask hard questions to 75 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:30,800 ensure proper oversight and begin building a culture of reconciliation. 76 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:37,080 Thank you. >> Thank you. 77 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:37,080 » All right. Who would like to go next? 78 00:06:41,919 --> 00:06:49,919 » Hello. Good evening. Uh, my name is Lori Fory Herkus. I live in District 3. Thank 79 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:54,479 you for ending the Flock contract. I'd like to address a few things that I've 80 00:06:51,759 --> 00:06:59,759 witnessed through this process. We've heard how overwhelming the emails, 81 00:06:57,039 --> 00:07:04,960 testimony, research, and open open records requests have become, but 82 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:09,520 there's no meaningful public engagement process for this issue. We're deeply 83 00:07:07,759 --> 00:07:12,959 concerned, and we have no other way to work through the critical things that 84 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:15,759 we've learned with you. >> [snorts] 85 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:19,919 » Three minutes at a microphone isn't meaningful engagement on an issue that's 86 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:24,080 connected to our privacy and our freedoms. 87 00:07:21,759 --> 00:07:29,039 I don't want residents blamed for taking your time. I want you to be curious 88 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:33,919 about what we've learned. I need you to make space to hear from us. Did you know 89 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:38,639 that while Chief Hill was researching options for the council, he told Flack 90 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:43,520 his goal was to keep the cameras? that Flack representatives monitored our 91 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:48,880 meetings and offered to help SPD win the vote and keep the contract. That Flack 92 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:54,400 provided talking points and a strategy to Chief Hill that included offering to 93 00:07:51,599 --> 00:07:59,759 contact older people directly to respond to residents concerns themselves and to 94 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:04,319 source advocates to influence your decision. 95 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:08,720 This isn't simply tech support. The police department and the vendors shared 96 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:14,160 an agenda while the council relied on them for information and recommending 97 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:19,840 things to the council. This is hugely problematic and exactly why independent 98 00:08:16,639 --> 00:08:24,720 information and oversight matter. The records also showed SPD was still 99 00:08:22,639 --> 00:08:30,160 learning fundamental things about this system after the cameras were installed 100 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:35,279 and went online May 18th. On June 2nd, while watching a training 101 00:08:32,479 --> 00:08:40,080 video, SPD discovered that the Jackson Street camera wasn't even the kind of 102 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:45,600 camera that they thought it was. Two days later and 17 days after that live 103 00:08:43,519 --> 00:08:52,720 feed camera went online, which is the same camera pointing at Cascade Falls, 104 00:08:49,839 --> 00:08:57,440 SPD asked Flock, "How do how do we stop outside agencies from viewing the live 105 00:08:55,360 --> 00:09:01,920 feed data?" These aren't minor details. Camera 106 00:08:59,519 --> 00:09:07,440 capabilities and external data access are fundamental things an agency should 107 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:12,720 understand before activating public surveillance. SPD put this technology 108 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:18,240 online before it fully understood either, putting residents privacy at 109 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:23,200 risk. And surveillance doesn't stand still. Once the infrastructure exists, 110 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:28,880 its capabilities and uses can expand faster than our understanding and our 111 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:33,040 oversight. We saw this happen here at essentially the same time SPD was 112 00:09:30,959 --> 00:09:37,600 figuring out who else could see what its cameras captured. It was also trying to 113 00:09:35,519 --> 00:09:41,680 expand what the camera itself could capture. 114 00:09:39,519 --> 00:09:46,880 SPD wrote that it had specifically chosen the Jackson Street location so a 115 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:52,959 PTZ camera could monitor parts of the school, Cascade Falls, and the roadway. 116 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:58,240 Was the school school board aware? were families were the residents at Cascade 117 00:09:55,200 --> 00:10:03,279 Falls. Who gets to make these decisions and what is the oversight? 118 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:07,760 Public trust isn't damaged because residents are asking questions. It's 119 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:11,360 damaged when residents have to investigate their own government to get 120 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:15,760 answers. If residents have uncovered information 121 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:20,399 that the council hasn't fully examined, you should want to hear from us. And 122 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:25,200 independent experts should be a part of this process. Police departments and 123 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:30,079 surveillance vendors cannot be the only voices informing decisions about PE 124 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:33,680 police surveillance. I'm also concerned about how often we're 125 00:10:32,079 --> 00:10:39,519 hearing, "Let's see what Dne County does." Stoen needs to decide for itself. 126 00:10:37,519 --> 00:10:44,240 Waiting to see which vendor the county chooses ignores what residents have been 127 00:10:41,680 --> 00:10:47,920 saying all along. We don't want mass surveillance. 128 00:10:45,839 --> 00:10:52,880 Flock itself told Chief Hill that competitors have federal contracts, 129 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:56,880 including with ICE and DHS. Are you independently investigating these 130 00:10:54,800 --> 00:11:02,240 relationships before even considering another system? Most importantly, I 131 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:06,720 really want you to remember this. Residents haven't just identified 132 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:11,920 problems. We've given you a framework to address them. The people's resolution 133 00:11:09,519 --> 00:11:16,640 was carefully crafted because of what we've learned. It addresses what went 134 00:11:14,399 --> 00:11:21,120 wrong, what should have happened, the lack of transparency and the lack of 135 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:25,279 public involvement, and the concentration and misuse of power that 136 00:11:23,680 --> 00:11:30,079 adequate oversight should have prevented. Every piece is intentional 137 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:33,680 and the p pieces were designed to work together. 138 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:38,480 This is what gets lost when the people's resolution becomes a punch list. 139 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:43,120 Breaking an integrated framework across multiple committees separates the 140 00:11:40,560 --> 00:11:48,240 interconnected checks and balances from the failures that they were designed to 141 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:52,240 address. It moves decisions into spaces where public has little or no 142 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:57,120 opportunity to participate. I'm almost done. Public comments aren't even 143 00:11:54,880 --> 00:12:00,640 allowed in all of these committees. Please don't dismantle the solution 144 00:11:58,959 --> 00:12:06,079 before you've fully understood the problems it was designed to solve. adopt 145 00:12:03,519 --> 00:12:10,240 the people's resolution as a whole and remember what it presents that the 146 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:15,040 original process never gave us. The ability to say no. If this community 147 00:12:13,279 --> 00:12:19,360 doesn't want to be watched, we shouldn't be watched. Listen to the community. 148 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:23,920 That's how you build trust as our elected officials. Thank you. 149 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:29,560 » Thank you. >> All right. We have one more yet? 150 00:12:26,560 --> 00:12:29,560 » Okay. 151 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:37,680 » My name is Katherine Foster. I live in Stoton. Last Friday morning, the gates 152 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:42,320 of the dam were all opened. This violated the order in the permits for 153 00:12:39,839 --> 00:12:48,160 phase one of the Whitewater Park to notify Riparian owners at least 14 days 154 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:52,560 in advance of dewatering the site. There has been no such notice. 155 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:57,200 This is just another example of the deliberate attempts to hide information 156 00:12:54,639 --> 00:13:02,320 and actions from the public by the city and the DNR. If this project had any 157 00:13:00,079 --> 00:13:06,560 redeeming qualities, you would have been upfront and transparent about 158 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:11,279 everything. But you have lied, misinformed, and hidden important facts 159 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:16,959 and serious issues to assure the certainty of this vanity project that 160 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:20,959 only a select few want. 3,500 people know better, signing a 161 00:13:19,279 --> 00:13:25,760 petition against this when they learned of the real consequences to the 162 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:30,959 waterway, the wildlife, and to current recreational uses that they enjoy. This 163 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:35,200 will not improve fishing, as the mayor has repeatedly said. In fact, it will 164 00:13:33,279 --> 00:13:41,200 damage the spawning grounds by lowering the water levels in Yahara Bay. The fish 165 00:13:38,399 --> 00:13:45,279 population is very diverse in this area where schools of bass have been seen in 166 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:50,800 the mill pond and generations of folks have fished with their friends and 167 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:56,240 families. I wonder if any of you have ever engaged with people fishing or 168 00:13:52,959 --> 00:13:59,839 otherwise enjoying the Mil Pond area. It will not clean up the water as you've 169 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:03,839 stated. If you have ever read the sediment test on the website, you would 170 00:14:02,079 --> 00:14:09,040 realize that there is a lot of contamination in this industrial site 171 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:13,360 that you plan to have children in inner tubes swimming in. You would also see 172 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:18,000 that there are further questions about the effects of construction and stirring 173 00:14:15,279 --> 00:14:23,040 up what would be better left undisturbed and further testing in more areas that 174 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:26,959 need to be done. If you had read the materials management plan for this 175 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:31,040 permit, you would see that the order of construction will be to dig up 176 00:14:28,639 --> 00:14:36,399 moderately contaminated sediment to reuse and build a whitewater feature. 177 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:42,320 This while diverting the entire flow past the most contaminated area prior to 178 00:14:39,199 --> 00:14:47,519 dredging and removing that sediment. Won't that just send more contam 179 00:14:44,399 --> 00:14:52,240 contamination downstream? Now, I understand that it is not about 180 00:14:49,839 --> 00:14:56,639 the safe handling of industrial waste, but it is about using your pet project 181 00:14:54,560 --> 00:15:01,680 to get taxpayers to clean up the industrial site where you want a housing 182 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:05,760 development to be built. If you had kept up with this project 183 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:09,680 costing over $10 million, you might have wondered why the the project 184 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:14,480 construction order was reversed to go upstream in phases rather than 185 00:15:11,839 --> 00:15:18,320 downstream as was originally planned. Then you might have asked, is it safe to 186 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:22,720 first complete the phase that starts from the tainter gates at the dam and 187 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:27,360 goes through a box culvert past a structure of rock and concrete into a 188 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:31,920 deep pool? Those of you who feign concern for the safety of kids fishing 189 00:15:29,519 --> 00:15:36,880 in the area don't seem to mind that there that you are creating a deadly 190 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:41,360 magnet for curious children to actually get in the water and try out the lower 191 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:45,120 half of a white water park. If you are unaware of these issues, 192 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:50,079 you've been irresponsible in your role as decision makers regarding public 193 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:54,800 resources and safety. If you know about this, you chose to promote a project the 194 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:58,240 3,500 people despise. You have been negligent, selfish, and completely 195 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:02,240 unconcerned with the health and safety of people and the protection of the 196 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:06,360 environment and natural beauty of this waterway that so many enjoy. 197 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:13,600 I cannot express how gut-wrenching and heartbreaking this is for me living near 198 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:19,360 the mill pond that will be eliminated and forever changed. I see great blue 199 00:16:16,639 --> 00:16:24,240 herand, white and green herand, ospreys and bald eagles, many different kinds of 200 00:16:21,759 --> 00:16:29,360 ducks in different seasons and the geese with their babies in the spring. 201 00:16:26,959 --> 00:16:34,240 I see turtles of all sizes sunning on a log and at night I hear the bullfrogs. 202 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:38,720 Lately, I've seen a baby muskrat that could fit in my hand, floating in the 203 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:43,519 green duckweed that you think is algae, shoveling it into his mouth with both 204 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:48,399 little paws. The birds will fly away because the water surface area will be 205 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:52,639 drastically reduced. But what happens to everything living under the water's 206 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:57,440 surface? You have sentenced so many creatures to death. 207 00:16:55,839 --> 00:17:02,639 All those who live on the river will smell that death. You have sentenced us 208 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:07,839 to heartbreak. One of you called me a nimi once. People 209 00:17:05,839 --> 00:17:12,480 who resort to name calling usually can't support their position with facts. I 210 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:17,679 wonder if you would have called 3,500 people nimbies to their faces because 211 00:17:15,120 --> 00:17:23,919 3,500 people call this waterway their backyard whether they are riparian 212 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:28,480 owners or not. And they say absolutely not in my backyard. 213 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:32,960 I truly hope that your consciences will prevail and you will give this thought 214 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:39,200 and do the right thing. Thank you. >> Thank you. 215 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:44,720 Anybody else wish to speak tonight? >> All right. Hearing none, um we'll go 216 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:52,200 into our agenda. Uh the next item is communications and presentations. Are 217 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:52,200 there any communications from alders? 218 00:17:53,200 --> 00:18:01,840 All right. I just have a couple uh followup. I did have a meeting with the 219 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:07,120 officials from Stoton Trailers uh regarding uh the conversation we had 220 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:12,720 with uh the land. Um they are open to the idea of having a conversation about 221 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:18,559 extending the trail down by the RDA site. So, the city attorney is is 222 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:23,600 working with staff to put together um some sort of a proposal to hopefully 223 00:18:21,039 --> 00:18:29,840 acquire that piece of property there. And then I also wanted to share that the 224 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:33,440 other land that we talked about um STI does have some interest, but they're 225 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:38,799 probably a couple years out from really wanting to pursue it. um which if we 226 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:43,280 chose will give us time to do some due diligence especially on the uh public 227 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:49,679 works garage site if that's something that you you chose to do. Um the other 228 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:54,400 update is um been having conversations uh city attorney and myself with other 229 00:18:52,000 --> 00:19:00,480 communities regarding the billboard. So, we're still gathering some facts. Um, 230 00:18:57,039 --> 00:19:05,520 but it seems like um whether it's the billboards or even the flock cameras, 231 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:11,360 not everybody is really doing things the same way as far as their process and 232 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:15,039 their approvals or the amounts that, you know, they're they're getting for their 233 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:18,480 signs or whether or not um their agreements are apples to apples. So, 234 00:19:16,799 --> 00:19:22,799 we'll give you full updates as we get the rest of the information and we get 235 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:29,440 to the point where uh we're going to have to make decisions. 236 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:34,799 Um that's all I had. Um and then we do have a presentation 237 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:39,840 tonight and that's going to be from John uh Lindert from Strand. I'm just going 238 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:42,840 to cue this up for him so we can uh begin. 239 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:58,400 I'm not John, by the way. Brett. >> Oh, Brett's going to start, huh? 240 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:01,520 » Throwing me a curve. All right, I'm ready when you guys are. 241 00:19:59,360 --> 00:20:05,440 » I'll just introduce uh John Lindard, as you you mentioned, from Strand 242 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:11,120 Associates. Uh so this is an update to our storm water quality management plan. 243 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:15,039 The last one was done in 2018. Uh so this just looks to assess our storm 244 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:20,720 water quality for compliance with our TMDL and John will go into much more 245 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:25,360 detail or as much as you want uh when it comes to our our storm water uh system 246 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:30,919 and our plan and our maintenance strategies. So with that I'll hand over 247 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,919 to to John. 248 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:41,679 All right. Go ahead. All right. Today, tonight I'm going to 249 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:45,600 talk about the stormwater quality management plan update for the city of 250 00:20:43,120 --> 00:20:51,200 Stoton. Uh we recently submitted this to the DNR in I think it was early August, 251 00:20:48,799 --> 00:20:55,919 might have been late July. So, uh next slide, please. 252 00:20:53,360 --> 00:20:59,600 So, from an agenda standpoint, uh going to give you a quick introduction. Uh 253 00:20:57,919 --> 00:21:04,000 we'll talk about some updated storm water programs uh that we're we're 254 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:07,360 doing. talk about storm water quality modeling update and alternatives 255 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:12,159 analysis and that includes BMPPS in the city and 256 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:17,120 participation in Yahara winds wershed adaptive management plan and some 257 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:23,679 recommendations. Next slide please. So I'll look at this one because it's a 258 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:29,360 little bit closer. Um the the city has a storm water permit, an MS4 permit it's 259 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:33,760 it's called it has expired. Um but we're operating underneath that permit uh 260 00:21:31,679 --> 00:21:37,760 until they issue a new one sometime this year is my understanding. You've got a 261 00:21:36,159 --> 00:21:42,720 long history of storm water quality management planning uh in trying to 262 00:21:40,799 --> 00:21:47,440 comply with the per the permit that started back in 2006 with the original 263 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:52,080 plan an update in 2010. We got involved in 2018 with the TMDL or total maximum 264 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:58,880 daily load with the Rock River. I'll talk about that a little bit more. And 265 00:21:54,240 --> 00:22:03,520 then the we did a uh analysis in 2020 to give you credit for your leaf management 266 00:22:00,559 --> 00:22:09,039 program and we did some things in 2021 to update some programs due to uh some 267 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:16,240 permit changes. Uh the big thing here is Rock River uh is a 303D listed impaired 268 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:22,080 water. You are in that that basin. So there was a TMDL or total maximum daily 269 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:26,880 load approved by EPA in 2011 which uh added more requirements Um the main 270 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:30,080 objective of this plan itself was to address compliance with this these TMDL 271 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:34,240 requirements which you can see in that table over there. Uh the reach on the 272 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:42,480 left there's four different reaches or watersheds uh that the EPA um 273 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:47,280 and the DNR has designated and you can see your MS4 requirement was 20% TSS 274 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:52,159 reduction. TSS being total suspended solids otherwise known as sediment. Um 275 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:56,559 that's in your permit. When this Rock River TMDL came out, you had added a 276 00:22:55,039 --> 00:23:02,240 total phosphorus reduction and you can see on the right um right two columns 277 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:06,720 the reductions there in terms of storm water quality requirements for runoff 278 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:11,200 coming off the city lands. Next slide please. 279 00:23:08,559 --> 00:23:18,559 In terms of progression uh over the years, we just go back to 2010 where the 280 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:24,080 city was at 29.6% 6% TSS and 20.3% TP reduction uh in compliance with that uh 281 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:28,720 requirement. Uh so you got to kind of sit pretty for a while um until you got 282 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:34,559 to 2018 which responded to the Rock River TMDL that came out. And you can 283 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:41,679 see in bold there the city for that plan was at 31.7% TSS and 27% TP reduction. 284 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:46,320 Um those requirements per reach for the TMDL were not met everywhere. So, we 285 00:23:44,159 --> 00:23:50,400 ended up having to do an alternatives analysis that had alternatives that 286 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:55,520 range from two to five million to get you in compliance um back in 2018. Since 287 00:23:53,760 --> 00:24:00,799 then, you've done a number of things, a number of projects um which brings us to 288 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:06,799 2026. And if we look at the bold again, city at 45.4% TSS and 41.5% TPU TP 289 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:13,120 reduction. This is for a number of reasons which I'll get into. Um 290 00:24:11,039 --> 00:24:17,440 the way that you end up getting in compliance is trading some pollutants 291 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:21,200 from one reach to another. Um and then you get in full TMDL compliance. And 292 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:26,320 we'll talk a little bit about more about that. Uh the uh the map on the right 293 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,799 shows those reaches in the purple are the the purple polygons are the 294 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:33,440 different ones. It's kind of hard to see, but those four reaches are are 295 00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:41,279 shown within there. Most of the city 67 and southeast is 68. Next slide, please. 296 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:46,559 um as you've done since we've been involved, you've tapped in with Rodney 297 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:50,640 and Brett, uh Brett's support and all of your support into getting grants for 298 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:55,760 doing a lot of this work. Okay, so this project cost 122,000. Half of it was 299 00:24:53,039 --> 00:25:01,120 paid for by the DNR, which is always a a good thing uh from a fiscal standpoint. 300 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:07,279 Next slide, please. Uh these bullets are really the 301 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:10,720 requirements from your permit. Um, we've done a lot of work on that in the past. 302 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:13,919 So, we were only focusing on a couple of these here, pollution prevention, where 303 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:18,799 we looked at some of the public storm water BMPs that were out there, uh, to 304 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:22,400 see if they were still operating as originally intended. We did the storm 305 00:25:20,559 --> 00:25:28,760 water quality management with the wind modeling update and then we updated the 306 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,760 storm system map. Next slide. 307 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaking of these existing public storm water BMPs, field reviews, uh we 308 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:41,279 reviewed eight BMPPS uh with the the text boxes there pointing to each of 309 00:25:37,919 --> 00:25:47,840 those. Um and we have some results of that. If go to the next slide. 310 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:54,240 Um well, I should back up. Each of those No, no, stay stay there. Sorry. Um 311 00:25:51,679 --> 00:25:59,600 the each of those BMPPS has a figure like this and an 312 00:25:57,039 --> 00:26:05,760 associated data from a field survey that we did to look at uh erosion, how much 313 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:09,760 um sediment is in the pond, uh infiltration rates of infiltration 314 00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:14,159 basins and bio attention basins. Uh so this is just an example of one of them 315 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:18,559 at Northview Heights. Next slide, please. 316 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:24,159 So this is a table from the report. It goes into detail about how much uh water 317 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:29,360 depth is left, how much sediment is in the pond. And what the DNR says is if 318 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:35,840 you have less than 3 ft of water, that's when you need to dredge. Okay. So the 319 00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:39,760 far right column um basically based on sediment accumulation rate, we're able 320 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:44,320 to estimate the number of years before you have that three feet of water depth. 321 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:51,039 And so you can see the they're the flesh colored the if it's becoming one two and 322 00:26:47,279 --> 00:26:56,400 a half 3.7 years you need to start really planning for dredging those ponds 323 00:26:53,039 --> 00:27:02,320 doing something with them. And so you can see that Northview Heights um Barbar 324 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:07,760 Fields Wet Pond and Franklin Street are all kind of in in that impending uh need 325 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:12,000 and the Sen Fire Station is on there as number five. um and that got uh 326 00:27:10,159 --> 00:27:16,799 converted to a buyer attention basin. So that that's all good. Um but really it 327 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:20,480 highlights the need to continue the program of field reviews of existing 328 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:24,559 stormwater BMPs that are out there and then initiate design and construction of 329 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:29,520 dredging or maintenance projects uh to address identified deficiencies. So next 330 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:34,799 slide please. Uh we did on a couple of them do uh some infiltration testing. 331 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:38,640 The the middle picture is this modified Philip Dune infiltrometer. It's some 332 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:43,520 newer technology. doesn't isn't as intensive to get some data. We also do 333 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:50,159 the double ring infiltrometer, but um that's a lot more work. Um so if you 334 00:27:47,919 --> 00:27:54,720 look at the table on the bottom right, the North View Heights uh infiltration 335 00:27:52,480 --> 00:28:00,159 basin, the DNR infiltration rate that you designed for is 3.6 in per hour. The 336 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:03,440 MPD measured infiltration rate is 73. What that indicates is something's not 337 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,960 working quite right in that in that infiltration base and something so 338 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:12,159 corrective action should be taken. Uh now the second one is Williams Drive bio 339 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:16,559 retention basin uh where 3.6 is the designed DNR infiltration rate and both 340 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:22,399 of the interestingly both of those infiltration tests came back with some 341 00:28:19,279 --> 00:28:27,039 pretty similar numbers of 13.63 well and it well higher than what it was really 342 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:32,000 designed for. So seems to be working quite well. 343 00:28:29,039 --> 00:28:36,559 Next slide. And this is really an action item summary of uh routine and non-Rine 344 00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:42,000 maintenance for each of those BMPPS. This is to help Brett and his staff um 345 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:47,039 potentially go out and and do some corrective action. Next slide. 346 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:52,320 The storm water quality modeling which is really the the um big part of this 347 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:58,640 project uh is kind of represented here in these two two graphics. on the left 348 00:28:54,559 --> 00:29:03,919 is baseline loading in um pounds per acre of TP. And what you'll see on the 349 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:08,399 legend on the right is the higher loadings are reds and oranges. And keep 350 00:29:06,799 --> 00:29:14,399 in mind on the left that would be as if you didn't have any um best management 351 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:18,880 practices uh or BMPs. On the right is what what you have today. Uh it's called 352 00:29:17,039 --> 00:29:23,039 existing condition with control. So what you want to see in this graphic is a 353 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:27,440 shift to those blues and greens. And you do see shift to blue and green a lot a 354 00:29:25,919 --> 00:29:30,399 lot of that is on the west side where a lot of the development has occurred but 355 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:34,240 you can see some other blues and greens is really uh either projects the city 356 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:38,720 has done or developments that have occurred to uh to help the cause. Next 357 00:29:36,799 --> 00:29:44,000 slide please. Uh this is 358 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:49,360 uh really the results of that modeling in detail. Uh on the left is the 359 00:29:46,159 --> 00:29:55,520 pollutant uh TSS or sediment TP or total phosphorus. On uh the next couple of 360 00:29:52,960 --> 00:30:00,320 columns you have the MS4 required 20% and then Rock River requirements per 361 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:06,960 reach. Uh and then we do what's called uh MS4 modeled existing conditions um 362 00:30:03,919 --> 00:30:10,320 percent reductions. And then on the far two right columns we have a TMDF 363 00:30:08,799 --> 00:30:13,120 pollutant reduction gap. Are you in compliance or you not? You're in 364 00:30:11,919 --> 00:30:18,159 compliance if you have a negative number. You're not in compliance if you 365 00:30:14,559 --> 00:30:23,520 have a positive number. So I s uh put a box around in red around reach 67 and 366 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:28,399 68. Uh you can see reach 68 has positive numbers meaning it's not in compliance. 367 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:34,240 But interestingly reach 67 is a is upstream of reach 68. The DNR allows you 368 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:40,080 to water quality trade. So you can kind of swap those pollutants out and 369 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:44,000 um get yourself into compliance uh without really doing anything. It's it's 370 00:30:42,559 --> 00:30:53,760 basically you're doing better in reach 67 to help 68. So um that is is a good 371 00:30:49,919 --> 00:30:58,480 thing. Uh next slide. Okay. So what have you done since 2018? 372 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:03,520 Why are we so much better? Why are we actually in compliance? Uh number one, 373 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:09,760 enhanced street sweeping program. uh a vacuum street sweeper was purchased and 374 00:31:06,399 --> 00:31:14,240 uh the things you do uh with that uh help help the bottom line. We did that 375 00:31:12,159 --> 00:31:20,480 TP leaf collection credit analysis in 2020 and again in 2025 well actually 376 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:24,480 2026 with the report. Um and then Paradise Pond which is out 377 00:31:23,039 --> 00:31:28,720 there which is an internally drained area. We were able to get better uh 378 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:32,399 percent reduction there due to some monitoring that the city was doing and 379 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:35,679 we'll talk about that in a bit. you did the next two or two projects you 380 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:41,440 actually built uh with the help of grants. Um you've had new development 381 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:45,200 that has helped um because you you have ordinances in place that require them to 382 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:50,320 get certain amount of TSS and TP reduction uh redevelopment has occurred 383 00:31:47,679 --> 00:31:54,720 and we've modeled we have some BMP modifications from a modeling standpoint 384 00:31:51,840 --> 00:32:00,320 that we're allowed to do uh with DNR. So next slide please. So I'll talk through 385 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:04,159 some of these um relatively quick quickly. You have an enhanced street 386 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:09,840 sweeping program. You got a $54,000 grant back in 2020 to get a new vacuum 387 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:14,480 street sweeper. This TP leaf collection credit analysis is in that table there. 388 00:32:12,159 --> 00:32:21,440 And those are the two analyses. And the total TP on the right. Uh and the 2025 389 00:32:18,159 --> 00:32:26,480 analysis got you another well actually a difference there. Another 44.6 pounds of 390 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:31,399 TP which is quite quite a bit for work that you're already doing. Next slide. 391 00:32:32,399 --> 00:32:40,159 Okay, this is Paradise Pond. The uh it's an internally drained wet pond with an 392 00:32:37,919 --> 00:32:45,919 11 acre surface area. You can see the waterershed on the bottom right graphic 393 00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:53,200 uh in blue, 166 acres. Uh discharge is only through that pump station uh that's 394 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:58,880 hand operated and the the table shows how we got an improvement. Uh so 2018 395 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:03,679 there were some assumed values. 2025 was based on actual monitoring that Brett 396 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:09,679 and his staff did uh every time they they pumped that out. Um so you got a 397 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:14,480 6.7% increase in TSS reduction and a 22.3% 398 00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:20,399 uh increase in TP reduction all to the benefit of of the bottom line here. 399 00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:24,480 Again, next slide, please. Uh the industrial park dry to wet pond 400 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:30,080 conversion was the highest priority project back in 2018 on that plan. The 401 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:34,000 uh project gets 30 pounds of TP reduction and and is in TMDL reach 68 402 00:33:32,559 --> 00:33:37,679 which is where there was a need identified at the time. Next slide 403 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:42,559 please. Uh 404 00:33:39,919 --> 00:33:48,480 here are some pictures of that uh after construction. Uh the table itself shows 405 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:53,679 the grants that uh that the city got for that. Uh so through Dne County urban 406 00:33:52,159 --> 00:33:58,720 water quality grant and the DNR urban non-point source grant. So only 38.2 2% 407 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:03,039 of that project had to be paid for through local funds by the city. Next 408 00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:07,360 slide. Uh next project was uh the second 409 00:34:05,519 --> 00:34:14,399 highest priority in 2018 storm water plan and uh this project as you can see 410 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:19,599 there is in that blue watershed. Uh you can also see it's located above the 411 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:24,320 Yahar River Dam and potential water whitewater park uh coming forward. So it 412 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:30,240 helps to treat some water where people are interacting with uh with the water 413 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:37,919 uh down down at River Park and and the area there. So next slide, please. This 414 00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:42,240 project even got more grant funds. Um in fact, only 13.8% of the project had to 415 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:46,960 be paid for by the city. There were grants through Dane County and DNR uh 416 00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:51,919 that paid for the rest. And that was basically a box um that treated Yeah, 417 00:34:50,399 --> 00:34:55,599 you can see it there. It's got some baffles and some other things that treat 418 00:34:54,159 --> 00:35:01,520 water before it gets to the Har River where before it just discharged directly 419 00:34:58,240 --> 00:35:07,920 uh to the river. Next slide, please. Uh new and redevelopment reduction. Uh 420 00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:12,240 as you know, a lot of that uh development has occurred on the west 421 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:17,599 side. Those big whatever color that is orange stars. Um and as you can see in 422 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:22,640 the bottom um table, 569 pounds of reduction from 423 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:27,599 new development, 13.8 through redevelopment. And so you've sort of 424 00:35:25,359 --> 00:35:31,440 helped you've sort of developed your way into compliance a little bit. It's 425 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:36,079 contributed to to helping with the bottom line again with compliance. Next 426 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:41,760 slide. And a lot of those developments on the 427 00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:48,079 west side were in kettles or internally drained areas. Um the DNR has a number 428 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:52,800 of requirements that you have to meet before being able to take credit for 429 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:58,160 those areas. And this is uh a lot of detail you probably don't need, but uh 430 00:35:54,720 --> 00:36:03,839 three of the areas uh qualified and we took advantage of that with the 431 00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:09,200 stormwater quality modeling. Next slide. Uh even though you are in compliance, we 432 00:36:07,839 --> 00:36:13,680 didn't know at the time if you would. So we did do a small alternatives analysis. 433 00:36:11,839 --> 00:36:19,440 This is just a flowchart showing what how we would go about doing that. And 434 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:23,839 really the uh middle bottom watershed adaptive management you had been 435 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:27,359 participating in and bottom right design and construction of BMPS you had been 436 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:36,760 participating in. Basically at this point you're done. So um that's a good 437 00:36:31,839 --> 00:36:36,760 thing um as well. Next slide. 438 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:44,240 So, we did look at uh four or five different BMPPS in the white text boxes 439 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:49,359 there. A bit hard to read, but the important thing is they are upstream of 440 00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:53,599 the Har River, uh your river park, everything happening down there. 441 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:58,960 Anything you might do discretionarily at this point would help water quality 442 00:36:56,240 --> 00:37:02,960 within uh the mill pond uh and downstream. 443 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:06,560 Next slide. So when it comes down to alternatives, 444 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:12,160 alternative number one was doing this water quality trading uh from reach 7 67 445 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:18,079 to 68. You can see that there. Uh alternative two was just these four five 446 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:24,560 uh six actually um BMPs that you could do in the future if you if you desired. 447 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:28,960 Um the Har River Park, is it called River Park? Just river park. 448 00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:33,359 » Yeah, just river park. um bio biobasin that was out to bid recently that's 449 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:36,640 going to be constructed. Um that's part of alternative 2 but it's it's something 450 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:41,040 you were going to be doing. You you'll get some credit for that. 451 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:44,320 Next slide. Uh watershed adaptive management. You 452 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:48,000 have been participating in this for quite some time. The only thing I want 453 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:53,680 to say on here is the original buyin to this was $11,000. And what you were 454 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:58,640 doing here was buying in so that MMSD and Yahara Winds can go out to the egg 455 00:37:55,280 --> 00:38:04,800 community and get um agricultural BMPs installed at a lower cost than you can 456 00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:11,280 do in the city. Um buy in after the 2018 modeling update was 8,76. 457 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:16,400 So we were able to save the city $2,900 a year. Um, at this point, since you are 458 00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:23,040 in compliance, that buyin gets reduced to zero, saving you another $8,76 459 00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:29,760 per year. Uh, again, uh, a positive. Next slide. 460 00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:34,800 This is just a table from the report and the uh, polygons there in red are 461 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:38,480 alternative number one, and it's that water quality trade. There's zero cost 462 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:43,119 to do that. It's already done. Alternative number two is adjacent to 463 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:47,440 that. And uh again, it's discretionary projects if you want to go ahead and 464 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:53,440 continue to work on on water quality or if requirements change someday, which we 465 00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:58,640 don't have any indication that they are at this point. Next slide. So, here's 466 00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:05,359 the obvious choice. Do you do alternative one or alternative two? Um 467 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:11,839 $0 versus, you know, 2.85 million. Um, and again, alternatives 2 is just there 468 00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:15,760 to give you opportunities and projects to work on in the future if you'd like. 469 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:20,720 Next slide. Uh, here we have uh DNR approval of the 470 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:25,839 modeling and internal water quality trade. If you zoom in there, it's a nice 471 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:31,040 little sentence um couple of sentences that uh confirms that the DNR agrees 472 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:35,839 with the report and you're good to go um moving forward. Next slide. 473 00:39:41,119 --> 00:39:47,040 Okay. So, we'll end up with some recommendations 474 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:51,119 for MS4 programs. The things that, uh, Brett and his staff are already doing, 475 00:39:49,359 --> 00:39:56,960 uh, continue to do that. Uh, that's defined in that 2018 plan and a 2021 MS4 476 00:39:54,720 --> 00:40:04,160 appendix. Uh, for each of those bullet items there that are conditions to the 477 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:08,000 permit, Yahara winds buyin. Um, you will need to follow up on calculations that 478 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:14,400 we submitted to Madison Met on July 23rd. Uh, that would reduce the city's 479 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:19,280 buy in to zero dollars in 2027. Um, so they're reviewing it right now. I'm 480 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:24,480 I'm sure they'll be approving it shortly, but Brett, we should just keep 481 00:40:21,839 --> 00:40:28,400 our eye on that. So, uh, future stormwater BMPs that I talked about 482 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:31,839 discretionarily pursue alternative number two, BMPs. This would provide 483 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:37,280 additional pollutant reduction to the Har River. And if you pursue those two 484 00:40:34,240 --> 00:40:43,920 grant programs, you can uh gain up to upwards of 80% um funding. Um and and 485 00:40:41,359 --> 00:40:47,359 that's a good thing. Uh pollution prevention program modifications. I 486 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:51,520 mentioned this before. Continue the program of the field review of the 487 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:54,800 existing storm water BMPs. Uh and then initiate the design and construction of 488 00:40:53,440 --> 00:41:00,000 dredging or maintenance projects to address address the identified 489 00:40:56,240 --> 00:41:05,520 deficiencies. And lastly, One more. There we go. 490 00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:09,680 So, are you are you truly done? Are you are you not? Um, I would say you should 491 00:41:08,319 --> 00:41:12,560 be tracking the storm water quality improvements because because of new and 492 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:17,680 redevelopments in the spreadsheet format, Brett, we um that's something 493 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:22,000 that just will help. Um, and then the sec third bullet there, um, the storm 494 00:41:20,079 --> 00:41:26,319 water quality modeling will likely still need to be updated every 8 to 10 years. 495 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:30,160 That's a ways out now. uh or if there are changes in the Rock River TMDL 496 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:34,240 wastist load allocations or substantial changes in the city boundary. And those 497 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:38,480 last two caveats were actually in that DNR letter that said, hey, uh if 498 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:42,800 something changes, you may have to do a little more. But at this point, you're 499 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:46,560 you're pretty much in the clear. Um but just keep track of what what 500 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:53,119 developments are doing and any projects you might do moving forward. With that, 501 00:41:49,119 --> 00:41:56,480 I open it up to questions and answers. >> All right. Thank you. older person 502 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:59,680 reefs. >> So, and I don't know if you know off the 503 00:41:58,240 --> 00:42:04,880 top of your head, but how many wet basins are there? And I'm curious who's 504 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:10,480 doing the water testing. Is it all of them? Is this sporadic? I'm I'm just 505 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:15,359 thinking that sounds overwhelming >> for staff or you know who's 506 00:42:13,359 --> 00:42:21,119 » as far as the number of basins, we can refer to our GIS system. 507 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:25,040 But yeah, we can get you those how many wet basins and infiltration basins we 508 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:31,040 have. We can get you those. >> Yeah, I'm just curious. And then is do 509 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:35,359 we subcontract on the on the testing for you know the the water quality? I'm not 510 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:42,440 100% sure how all this work. So >> you come on up to the mic, Brett. 511 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:42,440 » Yeah, just take that corner seat there. 512 00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:51,520 So through the the study they did um a snapshot of basically the basins and did 513 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:54,000 a basin aggregate. Correct. >> Yeah. 514 00:42:52,079 --> 00:43:00,000 » So then over time we do visual inspections and then we have dredged 515 00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:04,240 some um wet basins in the past as well. So we're actually looking at doing a few 516 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:10,480 um next year um some of our storm water swailes to regrade them for to improve 517 00:43:07,599 --> 00:43:15,200 storm water flow. So it's a we're never done. It's always a constant I I want to 518 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:19,200 say battle because it's really the you know it's a a great thing that we're 519 00:43:17,599 --> 00:43:24,240 doing to treat water before it gets to the Yahara. Um so it's it's a but 520 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:28,880 there's a lot of uh BMPPS out there. So there's as you in new development 521 00:43:26,319 --> 00:43:33,599 especially uh which obviously is a good thing. However, we need to staff up for 522 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:39,280 it and account for equipment as we move forward with these two. 523 00:43:36,319 --> 00:43:44,800 » Yeah. I just have a couple. So, Eastwood is one that you've dredged and I was 524 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:49,760 that on there? I don't know if I >> um I'm not I don't think it was in the 525 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:53,359 slides. That was back in 2019 or 2020 somewhere in there. 526 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:56,480 » And then um how about the man parking lot? 527 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,960 » Yep. So, those are infiltration or bio basins. So, that's all part of the the 528 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:03,760 new >> those we added recently. So, 529 00:44:01,359 --> 00:44:09,920 » so, so we during the study I believe we forecast or used some of the um newer 530 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:12,720 basins um as as part of the study. >> Yeah. Everything we knew about would 531 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:18,720 would have been modeled and you had gotten credit for anything from this 532 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:23,119 point forward keep track of with a spreadsheet and and we we help you guys 533 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:26,720 with all of developments anyway. So, we have a lot of information, but it's it's 534 00:44:25,359 --> 00:44:29,839 good to just kind of keep track of where you're at in the future to use that 535 00:44:28,319 --> 00:44:32,079 information when you do have to update the model. 536 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:35,680 » As you'll see, the the project in Highway 51, they're they're adding, I 537 00:44:33,839 --> 00:44:39,920 think, four new basins as well throughout that corridor. 538 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:44,000 » I think what I'm hearing is all the things that we've been doing is really 539 00:44:41,359 --> 00:44:48,560 helping the water quality in in the river downstream in the area where we're 540 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:52,079 talking about putting the park. Do you have any concerns about the water 541 00:44:50,319 --> 00:44:58,400 quality down there and people being in and out of there? 542 00:44:54,640 --> 00:45:05,119 » I all I can say is any storm water BMP put upstream will help it in some 543 00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:09,839 fashion. It's hard to like put a how much it's going to improve it. It 544 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:13,920 just it will incrementally improve improve the water quality. Less trash, 545 00:45:12,079 --> 00:45:20,240 less other things, you know, out there too. And part of our maintenance too is 546 00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:25,200 to um find um or or look at source pollution and then get on it. So um 547 00:45:23,599 --> 00:45:31,599 luckily we have, you know, Sue Eddie, she's on top of it and she she's uh she 548 00:45:28,319 --> 00:45:37,280 sees anything that's uh not normal, she will take action. Okay. 549 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:43,319 » Any questions from alders? Um anybody online? Regina, do you have 550 00:45:40,319 --> 00:45:43,319 anything? 551 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:50,000 Uh, [snorts] no, not tonight. Thanks. >> Yeah, I know there's a lot of 552 00:45:47,839 --> 00:45:55,599 information there. I don't know how best to digest all that. Um, if you have any 553 00:45:53,200 --> 00:46:01,920 suggestions on how we could do that. So, >> well, uh, we've been experimenting with 554 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:06,000 some AI opportunities. So, so showing John 555 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:13,040 » uh we we basically took uh his um report and the slides and and put it into an AI 556 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:18,240 system and it spit out basically Cliff's notes. So, what I can do is is have John 557 00:46:15,839 --> 00:46:22,880 review that and then we can send that out to the group. It it is helpful to 558 00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:29,359 read. It kind of boils it down into an easyto read uh couple pages versus a 559 00:46:26,079 --> 00:46:33,520 whole report or you know 34 slides. So, >> will it be accurate? Right. 560 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:36,079 » That's that's so it's a tool. AI is a tool. And so [laughter] 561 00:46:35,359 --> 00:46:39,680 disclaimer. >> Yeah. So we have to, you know, proofread 562 00:46:37,839 --> 00:46:44,880 and and do our due diligence that way. But um you know, it's interesting where 563 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:48,800 things are going. So I I showed that to John before. I'll send that to him 564 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,880 tonight. When he has time, maybe we can just review that for accuracy. 565 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:55,119 » Sure. >> Thanks for doing that. And I I would say 566 00:46:53,200 --> 00:47:00,640 the commitment you the city of Stoton has made to to storm water over 20 years 567 00:46:58,319 --> 00:47:05,599 is pretty remarkable. We do a lot of work for other communities and you're 568 00:47:03,119 --> 00:47:08,880 done in 20 years. Okay. And there's communities we work with that are 569 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:13,200 looking at 40 50 years before they're going to get into compliance. So the the 570 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:18,240 work and dedication you and Rodney and yourself and you know everyone here have 571 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:24,000 had is is really a success story. and we did present on uh your story at a 572 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:27,599 conference and it was wellreceived. So you're doing you you did a lot of the 573 00:47:25,359 --> 00:47:32,000 right things. So >> appreciate hearing that. And do you work 574 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:35,119 with some of the other groups like uh Renew the Blue or the Lakes and Water 575 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:39,760 Commission? >> Um 576 00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:44,480 I I don't personally, but I'm aware of all those initiatives. Yeah. 577 00:47:41,359 --> 00:47:47,760 » So we have like Brett, he's he's leading one of the teams on there. Adrian's been 578 00:47:46,319 --> 00:47:49,599 pretty involved as well. So, >> perfect. 579 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:55,760 » That's the other thing is we have really good commitment from our elders as well. 580 00:47:52,560 --> 00:48:00,000 » That's great. >> All right. Um, any questions from alders 581 00:47:58,240 --> 00:48:04,599 before we cut John loose? He's got to go all the way back to Oregon tonight. So, 582 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:09,400 » all right. Thank you for being here. >> Thank you guys. 583 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:17,280 » All right. and I'll get queued up here for the next item is the uh consent 584 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:21,920 agenda. So we have a number of items in the consent agenda. I would entertain a 585 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:26,640 motion to approve the consent agenda. >> So move second. 586 00:48:23,119 --> 00:48:32,839 » Motion by Jetson. Second by Tillerson. Would anybody like anything acted on 587 00:48:28,559 --> 00:48:32,839 separately on the consent agenda? 588 00:48:33,119 --> 00:48:39,760 Hearing none. All in favor say I. >> I. 589 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:44,160 » I. And uh any opposed? None oppose. That motion carries. Takes 590 00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:46,880 us to old business, right? >> Y. 591 00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:53,200 » Okay, we're going to old business, which is uh a second reading from the plan 592 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:59,440 commission on ordinance 14, older person caravllo. 593 00:48:55,440 --> 00:49:06,720 » And this is ordinance 14 of 2026 amending chapter 78 article 8 594 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:12,000 signage regulation. And I so move. >> Is there a second? 595 00:49:08,559 --> 00:49:16,160 » Second. Second by Wazak Scanland, other person Caribelloo. 596 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:22,160 » And I'm just gonna hand it over to Chris if anybody has any questions so she can 597 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:26,480 enlighten us about Reed versus Town of Gilbert fun facts. 598 00:49:24,319 --> 00:49:31,359 » I know you guys all listened to my spiel at the last meeting. Did you guys have 599 00:49:28,079 --> 00:49:36,354 any follow-up questions to any of it or want anything else explained? Don't want 600 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:40,240 to hear all about exciting signs? [laughter] 601 00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:42,880 Um, if you have any follow-up questions, let me know. Um, if you guys see 602 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:46,960 something in the ordinance you want changed later on, we can address it. But 603 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:51,920 for the most part, not a lot has changed. We brought it into compliance, 604 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:55,760 just made more robust definitions and um, tried to break out so it was a 605 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:59,680 little easier in a chart with those areas. So, 606 00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:03,960 » thank you for your work on that. Anything you want to add, Attorney 607 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,960 Manthy? 608 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:12,800 Uh nothing to add but happy to answer any questions if uh there are any on the 609 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:16,240 Supreme Court case law or anything like that. 610 00:50:14,079 --> 00:50:19,240 » All right. Any questions from alers or comments? 611 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:24,480 Hearing none. All in favor of the motion say I. 612 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:29,839 » I. >> And any opposed? 613 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:36,559 That motion carries. Um that'll take us to 614 00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:42,200 um ordinance 15 is a first reading and that's coming from public works all 615 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,200 person to listen. 616 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:59,280 Uh, yes. This is ordinance 15 of 2025 to amend ordinance section 50-5, offenses 617 00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:03,839 against public peace order and other public interest to replace section H 618 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:10,160 with construction activity within the public right ofway. Uh, move the former 619 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:12,400 section H to newly created section I and I so move. 620 00:51:11,119 --> 00:51:16,160 » It's a first reading, bud. >> Oh, well, first reading. 621 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:19,680 » Yeah. All right. Do you want to walk us through this or somebody? 622 00:51:17,839 --> 00:51:23,839 » Yeah. So I'm going to summarize so that it's just questions but uh this is 623 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:27,599 basically for the piece. Uh so when construction 624 00:51:26,079 --> 00:51:32,000 crews can work and when construction crews can't work uh during certain set 625 00:51:30,319 --> 00:51:36,000 hours so that there's no real noise pollution that we're not having uh major 626 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:40,640 issues because we don't want anyone to be like the person who runs their lawn 627 00:51:37,839 --> 00:51:46,480 mower at 9:00 a.m. on a Sunday. We're all been annoyed by that. So, this is 628 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:49,920 just directions or ordinances for those construction type crews to say, "Hey, we 629 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:53,040 don't want to have this." So, then I will let Brett take it away from there. 630 00:51:51,359 --> 00:51:58,640 » Right. Yeah. I'll just add to to that. That's a a great summary. So, um, so 631 00:51:56,319 --> 00:52:03,680 before it was more of a a policy that we had here that, um, construction the 632 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:09,520 right of way, uh, could not occur after 700 p.m. until, uh, 7 a.m. And so, we'd 633 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:13,040 like to make that ordinance and add some more language in there about the types 634 00:52:11,119 --> 00:52:20,400 of activities that would be allowed, emergency type services or or water main 635 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:25,040 breaks, for example. Um, so, um, this is in the the nuisance ordinance and it's 636 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:29,200 not to be confused with what's already in there when it comes to on private 637 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:34,319 property, um, and the noise ordinances that are already, uh, in there. Um, but 638 00:52:31,839 --> 00:52:39,920 it's just to add, um, an ordinance versus a policy so that we can, you 639 00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:46,960 know, enforce this and potentially issue citations. So, uh, we do, um, again, it 640 00:52:43,359 --> 00:52:53,599 it does not allow work, um, after 700 p.m. until 7 a.m. Monday through 641 00:52:50,319 --> 00:52:59,200 Saturday and no work on Sundays, uh, is allowed. Now, there is some some 642 00:52:55,359 --> 00:53:06,079 carveouts, um, emergency exemptions, um, section two. Uh so essentially if there 643 00:53:02,319 --> 00:53:12,800 is uh a reason to or a necessary to protect uh life, health, safety or 644 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:18,960 property u we can um allow crews to to work uh beyond those hours or even on 645 00:53:15,599 --> 00:53:25,200 Sundays. Um again the example is a water mane break. Um so essential public 646 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:30,400 services uh we we wanted to define that um as law enforcement, fire protection, 647 00:53:27,599 --> 00:53:34,720 public works operations, water, sanitary sewer and wastewater utility services, 648 00:53:33,119 --> 00:53:40,079 storm water management as we talked about today and flood control, emergency 649 00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:44,079 management, disaster response activities and any other governmental function 650 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:48,079 designated by the city as necessary to protect life, property, public 651 00:53:45,599 --> 00:53:53,440 infrastructure or the continuity of governmental operations. Um then beyond 652 00:53:50,960 --> 00:54:00,160 that, we do have special authorizations where um I could authorize some entity 653 00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:05,760 to work beyond those hours. Uh we wouldn't take that lightly, but let's 654 00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:10,880 say um a crew wanted to work past 7 till maybe 8 9:00 so they didn't have to come 655 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:17,200 back the next day to disrupt a business for example, we may allow that. Um, but 656 00:54:14,319 --> 00:54:20,880 we need to take those um, asks very seriously because we want to stick to 657 00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:24,640 the ordinance. Any questions? I know this is just a 658 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:29,119 first reading, but any any questions? >> How does this apply to the state highway 659 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:35,692 that we have running through our town? >> Yeah, so it's it's a connecting highway. 660 00:54:31,359 --> 00:54:39,920 So, we do have local control. Um, so [clears throat] within reason because 661 00:54:37,119 --> 00:54:45,280 there are some operations within the um the construction of the roadway. Uh, for 662 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:50,400 example, when they saw cut the concrete, a lot of times those may be after hours 663 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:56,960 um after these hours, which was again a policy um but um within the right area. 664 00:54:55,119 --> 00:55:02,079 So if it's on the northwest side of town, we may uh work with them to allow 665 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:06,160 them to do that so that doesn't disrupt um you know the flow of traffic like we 666 00:55:03,839 --> 00:55:10,000 have now. you know, we have traffic on these these roadways to keep it flowing 667 00:55:08,079 --> 00:55:16,160 and and it's not shut down like it was on East Maine last year. So, uh we do 668 00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:19,839 have local control up to Roi Road. So, beyond that, we don't have local 669 00:55:17,599 --> 00:55:23,440 control, but we do have local control when it comes to that. 670 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:29,200 So as a followup to that, is that something that would be in the the 671 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:34,880 contract with the >> So uh for us and our contracts, we 672 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:38,480 usually go over this during the uh pre construction meeting with the 673 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:44,800 contractors so that they understand what our or well policy was, but if you guys 674 00:55:41,839 --> 00:55:50,480 approve this, what the um ordinance is in the city of Stoen, uh we already go 675 00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:55,200 through this with them and we uh we harp on that because our citizens need a 676 00:55:52,720 --> 00:55:58,720 break in the evening um and on Sundays as well. 677 00:55:56,319 --> 00:56:03,760 » So, how about the DOT's agreement? Do we have any say in that? 678 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:09,200 » Again, it's a connecting highway. So, >> generally, they've been pretty good. Um 679 00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:13,200 you know, not working late. Uh the example I do have is the the saw cutting 680 00:56:11,359 --> 00:56:19,280 of of concrete, which I know they were doing well into the evening. And for 681 00:56:16,079 --> 00:56:22,480 some of that there was no there was uh there was no other alternative but 682 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:26,799 » and some of it's [clears throat] depends on where they are. If they're out by the 683 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:29,359 car dealership on 51 there's no residential out there. It's probably not 684 00:56:28,559 --> 00:56:32,480 an issue. Right. >> Right. And those are the types of you 685 00:56:30,799 --> 00:56:35,920 know situations that we would take into account when we would would allow them 686 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:40,960 to do that type of work. It's also about being efficient to get 687 00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:44,640 the job done. Like like I I mentioned the example is if they have another, you 688 00:56:42,799 --> 00:56:48,799 know, 7 o'clock and they're going to get finished in the next hour or two just to 689 00:56:46,559 --> 00:56:53,680 get it done so they can move out and not disrupt another day um of of business or 690 00:56:51,599 --> 00:56:58,720 or residents getting to their homes. We may allow them to do that. 691 00:56:55,200 --> 00:57:02,319 » Sure. Any questions or comments from alers? 692 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:06,400 Um otherwise, this one will be back at the next meeting. Um, if you have 693 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:12,319 anything that comes up, feel free to reach out to us and we'll we'll get you 694 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:20,880 some answers. Thank you. All right. Uh, next item is u R114 695 00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:27,200 um outdoor warnings sirens and it looks like that was at finance person Butler. 696 00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:33,200 » It was this is R114 of 2026 to amend the 2026 budget for outdoor warning siren at 697 00:57:30,319 --> 00:57:36,160 51 West. And I so move. >> And is there a second? 698 00:57:35,359 --> 00:57:39,280 » Second. >> Second by Alder person Reeves. Alder 699 00:57:38,079 --> 00:57:45,359 person Butler. >> Yeah, this was at uh finance tonight. It 700 00:57:41,839 --> 00:57:51,680 did pass unanimously. It's to um cover a little bit of an increased 701 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:57,680 cost for an outdoor siren um uh in the 51 West area. Is Chief Rip on? 702 00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:02,480 » Yeah, he's still on there. >> Okay. I saw pulse point went off. I 703 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:06,559 wasn't sure. Go ahead, Chief. 704 00:58:03,359 --> 00:58:11,119 » Yep. Um, so this is this is a siren that was approved as part of the capital 705 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:15,520 budget for 2026. Um, by the time we got to ordering uh 706 00:58:14,079 --> 00:58:22,960 the siren, there were some price increases that had come through uh that 707 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:28,160 raised it uh little over $4,000 more than we anticipated. So, I'm just 708 00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:34,720 looking for approval to finish the purchase and uh get this project moving. 709 00:58:32,319 --> 00:58:39,359 » All right. Thank you. Any questions or comments on this one? 710 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:43,200 » I'm supposed to remember I'll remember it now. I won't remember it next time 711 00:58:41,119 --> 00:58:48,160 this comes up that um this is something that we're looking at adding to um 712 00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:51,440 development agreements going forward so that the city doesn't have to shoulder 713 00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:55,520 um the burden on it. >> You remember through tonight. That's 714 00:58:52,799 --> 00:59:01,760 pretty good. Okay, thank you. Questions or comments? 715 00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:03,040 Hearing none. All in favor say I. >> I. 716 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:08,240 » I. >> And any opposed? 717 00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:14,559 That motion carries. The next one is R15. That one also came from finance. 718 00:59:11,599 --> 00:59:19,200 » This is R15 of 2026 to reduce the irrevocable standby letter of credit for 719 00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:24,000 SDI holdings. And I so move. >> Is there a second? 720 00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:28,880 » Second. Second by President Schumacher or person Butler. 721 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:33,440 » This also passed um almost unanimously. There's one abstension um 722 00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:42,720 uh to reduce the standby letter of credit due to finishing most of um phase 723 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:47,200 or yeah most of phase 2A's um uh improvements with the exception of some 724 00:59:45,119 --> 00:59:54,240 storm water stuff. And I will let either Nicole Marie or Chris speak to that. 725 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:57,040 Um, so we started bringing the letters of credit through finance committee and 726 00:59:55,680 --> 01:00:01,200 common council just so we've got tracking history of the paper trail of 727 00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:05,280 how the credit letters of credits get issued, reduced, released as they go 728 01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:09,680 through the various phases of construction. So this is the um original 729 01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:14,640 letter of credit from STI Holdings was $11 million. They rolled part of that 730 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:18,640 into phase 2A, which is what this letter of credit is for. So we're releasing um 731 01:00:16,799 --> 01:00:23,280 a portion of that except for the storm water part. So, at the end of the day, 732 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:28,559 we'll retain a $2.6 million letter of credit until the um remainder of the 733 01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:34,000 infrastructure is complete, and we hold that for a period of one year. 734 01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:38,920 » All right. Thank you. Anything you want to add, uh, Attorney Matthew? 735 01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:47,440 No, this is uh pretty standard um and in line with the development agreement to 736 01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:53,599 reduce the letter of credit as work is completed. And once it's accepted um so 737 01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:58,559 the public improvements haven't been accepted at that point, then that's when 738 01:00:55,760 --> 01:01:04,520 the one-year warranty would begin. >> Okay. Thank you. Questions or comments 739 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,520 from olders? 740 01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:11,359 » Hearing [snorts] none. All in favor say I. 741 01:01:08,319 --> 01:01:16,319 » I. And any opposed? None opposed. That motion carries. I 742 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:20,400 would entertain a motion to adjurnn. So vote. Motion by Jensen. Is there a 743 01:01:18,319 --> 01:01:22,559 second? >> Second. 744 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:26,240 » Who was that? >> I think it was Nino. 745 01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:28,559 » Uh second by all the person Nino. All in favor say I. 746 01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:36,359 » I. >> And any opposed? That motion carries. 747 01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:36,359 We're adjourned. Thank you. Yay.