1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:10,559 Everyone, it's 10:00. We have a quorum. I'll call Service Committee meeting of 2 00:00:06,879 --> 00:00:15,759 August the 12th, 2026 to order. The first uh thing is I will recognize that 3 00:00:14,559 --> 00:00:20,400 we are located in the traditional territory of the Lash people. Second 4 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:23,519 item here is the adoption of the public agenda. 5 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:28,000 » So moved. >> I've got an amendment to make to the 6 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:33,360 public agenda. I'd like to move the encampment first. 7 00:00:31,279 --> 00:00:36,399 like to move the in camera first. Thank you. 8 00:00:34,399 --> 00:00:41,840 » Oh, and I would like to add an item of new business. I'm just looking for a an 9 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:43,600 update on the quadrant shore accesses. >> All right. 10 00:00:42,239 --> 00:00:48,079 » Just a verbal update would be great. >> We need a motion as amended. 11 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:51,680 » I'll move as amended. >> Second. 12 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:59,480 » Thank you. All in favor is carried. Unanimous. 13 00:00:55,199 --> 00:00:59,480 So, let's go to in camera. 14 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,800 Have to clear the gallery here. 15 00:01:31,759 --> 00:01:38,640 We had best make those motions to move in camera, I guess, to do this properly. 16 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:42,720 » Uh, did you do that already? >> No, we didn't make those motions. 17 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:48,079 » That the close session report from the CEO be received. Before we do that, we 18 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:50,720 should make the proper motions to move in camera from the 19 00:01:49,439 --> 00:01:55,920 » Well, don't we have to receive the report from the CEO and then we move to 20 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:57,759 meet Yeah. move to close. Okay. So, >> you need a second. 21 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,759 » Yes. >> Second, 22 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:04,320 » director Rice. Thank you. All those in favor? 23 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:07,439 » It's unanimous and carried. And I will move that the meeting be closed to the 24 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:13,520 public to consider matters deemed to fall within the parameters of 25 00:02:08,640 --> 00:02:17,440 subsections 91, FI, JN, and O of the community charter. 26 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:24,480 » Second, please. >> Second rice. All those in favor. 27 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:29,200 Unanimous again carries. Okay. All right. Continuing with our agenda 28 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:33,840 that we have no position delegations. the adoption of the previous minutes of 29 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:36,239 July 15, 2026. >> Move adoption. 30 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:42,800 » Second. >> Thank you. All those in favor? 31 00:02:39,519 --> 00:02:47,319 Anonymous and carried. No business arising. Do we have any? 32 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:54,080 No public considerations. No motions. No chairs report. We're under K staff 33 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:59,920 reports. Number one, receial community plan project update for receipt. 34 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:05,400 » Move receipt. Second >> and I believe planning staff will speak 35 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,400 to this. Mr. Chair, 36 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:15,440 » thank you to the committee through the chair. Uh this report is to provide an 37 00:03:12,239 --> 00:03:20,800 update on the area C OCP review project. Um not a lot to report on this month. We 38 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:25,280 have sent out the workbook uh mail out uh and the online version is now live on 39 00:03:22,959 --> 00:03:30,000 the web page um which has now been updated. Um, we're also getting into 40 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:33,599 phase three now, which includes, um, consolidating everything that we've 41 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:38,799 gathered over the past few months, um, and organizing it into themes, um, and 42 00:03:36,319 --> 00:03:43,440 preparing to start drafting into policy language, and a draft will hopefully be 43 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:47,200 coming soon. Thank you, >> Dr. Muay. 44 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:50,400 » Thank you. Thank you for the report, and thank you for all the work. I did notice 45 00:03:48,799 --> 00:03:53,760 that the web page had been updated including all of the what we heard 46 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:58,720 reports which was really great to see all of those um online and really great 47 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:02,640 also that the remote residence workbook has been distributed during this uh 48 00:04:00,959 --> 00:04:05,760 summer season so that if there are seasonal residents out there they'll 49 00:04:04,239 --> 00:04:10,560 also be able to receive a copy. So I just really wanted to say thank you for 50 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:14,560 that. That's awesome. And I did have a couple of quick questions. Oh, I was 51 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:17,840 just curious what the coding is that is happening right now that's mentioned in 52 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:21,199 the report and it says there's data consolidation and coding and I wasn't 53 00:04:19,919 --> 00:04:24,960 sure what it meant and I wasn't sure if it meant you were using AI to extract 54 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:29,800 themes or draft objectives and I was just wondering if you could explain what 55 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,800 that actually meant. 56 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:37,520 Um, no AI, we're not that fancy, but just organizing the data into themes so 57 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:43,680 that we can have different policy sections organized accordingly. 58 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:46,880 » Okay, amazing. Thank you. And um I was curious about the next steps 59 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:51,680 specifically. It says in there that the sharing the key draft sections of the 60 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:55,120 OCP and mapping for community input is coming up next. And I was just curious 61 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:58,800 if those will be open houses which are kind of drop in h so that folks could 62 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:03,360 take a look and offer their comments. And I was wondering if you were 63 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:08,639 considering having uh offering that in Harriet Bay as well as in Quaeski Cove 64 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:14,919 just because I think it might be beneficial for that those neighborhoods 65 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,919 to have easier access. 66 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:21,039 » We can certainly explore uh multiple locations for that. 67 00:05:19,199 --> 00:05:25,039 » Okay. Amazing. Thank you. That's everything chair. 68 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:29,520 » Anything further? Call a question on receipt. All those in favor? unanimous 69 00:05:27,840 --> 00:05:34,080 again and carried. Number two, development fair permit application 70 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,919 Lewis Road for receipt. >> Move receipt. 71 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,440 » Second. >> Second. 72 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:41,600 » Thank you. >> Planning staff will speak to this. Mr. 73 00:05:39,039 --> 00:05:45,840 Chair, [snorts] >> thank you. Good morning everyone. 74 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:51,759 The development variance permit application DV 40D26 proposes to vary 75 00:05:49,039 --> 00:05:57,120 the front yard setback from 7.5 m to 4.55 m to allow construction of a 76 00:05:55,199 --> 00:06:02,320 covered recreational vehicle parking area. The property owner uh had provided 77 00:06:00,479 --> 00:06:07,199 a site plan and design from a home designer originally. however, has worked 78 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:11,840 with staff to achieve greater compliance with the zoning bylaw. And a rough 79 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:16,639 sketch of the site layout that includes a dwelling unit with attached shop and 80 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:21,520 garage with a suite above is included in the report. The suite is intended for a 81 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:28,800 family member and would allow multigenerational living on the site and 82 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:33,520 um also included uh is the covered RV parking structure shown encroaching into 83 00:06:31,039 --> 00:06:39,120 the front yard setback. The variance request is made in part to respond to an 84 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:45,199 environmentally sensitive area ESA located on the east side of the property 85 00:06:41,759 --> 00:06:49,280 and to allow a greater usable area as backyard. And the applicant has shown 86 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:54,960 this location [clears throat] as a septic field which will be reviewed 87 00:06:51,919 --> 00:06:59,919 by Island Health and the applicant has engaged a QEP to provide initial 88 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:05,120 calculation for the maximum development footprint. 89 00:07:01,599 --> 00:07:12,240 um that is uh permitted and uh is it also deter determines that 90 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:17,280 undue hardship is present on the site meaning that uh the restrictions of the 91 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:23,280 uh riparian area the stream protection and enhancement area um will be 92 00:07:20,319 --> 00:07:28,319 encroached minimally and this application will determine the amount of 93 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:33,360 encroachment that the QEP proposes to the province in a future development 94 00:07:30,639 --> 00:07:40,080 permit. application. Um the province has to accept that prior to DP issuance um 95 00:07:36,479 --> 00:07:43,599 by the regional district. So the owner uh initially brought forward an 96 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:51,599 application that requested a greater variance which was from 7.5 m to 3.05 05 97 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:55,680 m and statutory notification as required by the local government act was 98 00:07:53,199 --> 00:08:01,039 completed and the regional district received one letter in support. Two 99 00:07:58,319 --> 00:08:06,960 neutral responses and 21 with concerns and objections. 100 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:13,599 All confirmed uh responses were from neighboring addresses and the initial 101 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:18,960 proposal had a shop within the front yard setback and proposed a greater 102 00:08:16,639 --> 00:08:26,000 variance uh which was to the zero or sorry 3.05 m. Concerns from neighbors 103 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:31,919 included uh impact to the street and neighborhood character and setting a 104 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:36,399 precedent which specifically related to the proposed variance. And then uh the 105 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:42,320 mature neighborhood of course is established and has a strong street wall 106 00:08:39,039 --> 00:08:47,839 with homes located outside of the 7.5 m front yard setback and lined with trees 107 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:53,120 and vegetation. Um, other concerns were about the riparian area and drainage and 108 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:58,800 the landowner removing trees and vegetation without a permit to protect 109 00:08:55,839 --> 00:09:05,279 the water course and the quality of the applicant's site plan was also noted. 110 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:08,880 Um, pardon [clears throat] me and lack of details of the building. The 111 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:15,600 notification only included the revised site plan from 112 00:09:12,560 --> 00:09:22,959 the applicant, not the uh site plan and building design from the home builder as 113 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:27,279 they were saving some um um money in actually applying for the variance. Uh 114 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:35,279 they are working with the home designer though however um so this application uh 115 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:39,440 went to the area D advisory planning commission um but they did not have a 116 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:45,200 quorum so we don't have any recommendation from them. The applicant 117 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:49,920 was made aware of the concerns and as a consequent revised the application to 118 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:56,480 lessen that encroachment into the front yard to 40% from 60% originally. The 119 00:09:53,839 --> 00:10:04,959 variance application is to vary that setback from 7.5 meters to 4.5 meters, 120 00:10:00,560 --> 00:10:10,080 4.55 meters to allow the covered RV pad instead of the shop. The revision also 121 00:10:07,839 --> 00:10:13,839 removed the requirement to vary a second section of the bylaw and make an 122 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:20,560 application to the Ministry of Transportation and Transit for anything 123 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:25,200 located within five 4.5 m of the property line on a local road. Uh there 124 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:29,279 were two responses to the second notification provided in accordance with 125 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:34,399 the requirements of the local government act for the revised variance. The 126 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:39,839 letters uh received there were two of them by email note opposition and their 127 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:45,360 previous concerns. And in addition, one of the letters notes the proximity to a 128 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:49,920 well that exists on their property. Um and it should be noted that any septic 129 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:55,519 proposal will be at the discretion of Island Health for approval. 130 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:58,720 As noted in the report summary, if the variance is not approved, the owner 131 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:03,440 could reconsider their building plans and adapt to the constraints of the 132 00:11:00,560 --> 00:11:08,000 riparian area and zoning bylaw. Um, the QEP will then base the report to the 133 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:13,120 province and the variance that will be requested for encroachment into the SPIA 134 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:18,160 on the decision of this application. and the applicant has reduced to uh 135 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:24,320 worked with staff to reduce the front yard setback and SPIA encroachment 136 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:28,640 um and the resulting impacts. They will be required to follow through with the 137 00:11:26,399 --> 00:11:32,880 uh QEP recommendations and uh development permit application as well. 138 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:37,040 Thank you. Happy to answer any questions. 139 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:42,320 » Thank you chair [clears throat] and thank you staff for the report and the 140 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:46,480 update on that. Uh just uh I have a a lot of questions and this is actually a 141 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:51,440 little bit more complicated than it it looks like. Uh the uh biggest issue that 142 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:56,560 I had to grapple with is that this is actually a legal uh building lot. And 143 00:11:54,320 --> 00:12:02,800 when we take a look at a legal building lot, um all building lots provide a 144 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:07,519 certain uh footprint that is available to build, but this lot doesn't do that. 145 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:11,839 Is that correct? >> Thank you for the question through the 146 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:16,240 chair. Uh that is correct. It is um still a buildable footprint um 147 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:21,519 considered a buildable footprint um based on uh regional district by law. Um 148 00:12:19,279 --> 00:12:28,240 however the constraints of the riparian area are what is providing um less area 149 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:33,760 and the undue hardship is noted when AQEP recognizes that there is either 150 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:38,800 less than 30% or 40% based on calculations that they do um available 151 00:12:36,560 --> 00:12:42,639 for a building footprint and the province then assesses those 152 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:46,399 calculations and makes a determination on that. 153 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:52,720 » Right. And thank you for that. And the uh when I read the original submissions, 154 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:59,600 um the assumption from um the I'll call it a form document or a form letter, the 155 00:12:55,279 --> 00:13:05,200 assumption is that this is merely a um I guess a a nuisance and it's misguided in 156 00:13:02,639 --> 00:13:09,680 that the hardship isn't real. And yet if you take a look at the actual uh 157 00:13:07,279 --> 00:13:15,360 repairing act uh under British Columbia's uh repairing protection area, 158 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:19,839 a wrap hardship or undue hardship refers specifically to a legal and technical 159 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:24,959 provision for properties that are so severely constrained by environmental 160 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:29,040 buffers, specifically the stream protection and enhancement area. So is 161 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:35,200 that a correct statement? So this lot does fall under that 162 00:13:31,519 --> 00:13:41,120 um I guess uh that guideline. >> Thank you for that uh through the chair. 163 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:44,720 That is correct. The QEP is the uh professional that will provide that 164 00:13:42,560 --> 00:13:49,360 determination ultimately but that's correct under the act. Yes. 165 00:13:46,639 --> 00:13:53,600 » Just a follow-up question. I see that you know we have two options. One is 166 00:13:50,959 --> 00:13:59,839 either to to grant the variance. The other option is to not grant the 167 00:13:55,600 --> 00:14:05,680 variance. um when local government doesn't grant the variance in the case 168 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:11,600 of a rap hardship, uh what does that do then for the province in being able to 169 00:14:08,399 --> 00:14:17,600 evaluate uh um how they're going to proceed with that? 170 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:23,440 » Thank you again. Uh the province will assess the uh requested variance and 171 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:29,680 encroachment into the SPIA in the same way. um they recommend that the local 172 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:36,040 government is approached for a variance first so that that encroachment would be 173 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,040 less into the SPIA. 174 00:14:37,279 --> 00:14:46,720 » So in in this case you did mention that um if we don't grant the variance there 175 00:14:42,959 --> 00:14:52,399 is still um enough of a footprint so that they can build. Is that correct? 176 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:57,040 » Thank you for the question. Um, yes, they would be able to build on this 177 00:14:54,399 --> 00:15:02,160 site. They would have to alter their building plans and not be able to build 178 00:14:59,199 --> 00:15:04,959 to suit to what they have as needs of the site. 179 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:09,040 » Thank you. >> Anything further? 180 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:14,880 » No. Winning. >> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, chair. 181 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:18,720 Um, I I just uh had a I appreciate the the questions uh from Director Rice and 182 00:15:17,199 --> 00:15:23,199 they have helped me pro provide me with a little bit of clarity, but I'm I'm 183 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:27,920 just questioning something that is in some of the correspondence from the 184 00:15:25,519 --> 00:15:36,000 community members about the timeline of sending out notifications and um them 185 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:40,399 receiving less than 72 hours to respond. I think it had something to do with the 186 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:47,600 timing of I'm not sure board meetings and long long weekends and things like 187 00:15:42,399 --> 00:15:52,959 that and and so um you know they it was enough of a concern that they decided to 188 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:57,839 explain the timing that the letters were dated July 27th but the envelopes were 189 00:15:55,759 --> 00:16:04,160 postmarked July 29th and they received their letters August 4th and um they had 190 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:09,519 until the end of uh Friday or the Saturday the 7th or 8th to respond. And 191 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:16,000 I guess I'm just wondering like from like a logistical point of view, is 192 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:21,759 there something that we can be doing here to um 193 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:25,279 provide a little bit more timeline for people to respond because, you know, 194 00:16:23,519 --> 00:16:30,399 people don't check their mailboxes every single day. So I I have a concern that 195 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:36,000 there may not have even people may have received the letter after the deadline. 196 00:16:34,079 --> 00:16:40,079 And I know that there's a constraint of I think is it 10 or 14 days that it 197 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:44,639 can't be sent out too early, but I'm just wondering if if there would be 198 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:48,399 something that could be beneficial as far as like maybe like scheduling 199 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:52,079 meetings or something to provide a little bit more space for that to 200 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,959 happen. >> Um [clears throat] thank you for the 201 00:16:53,519 --> 00:17:01,040 question through the chair. Uh this is a question that has come up before and so 202 00:16:58,079 --> 00:17:06,799 um yes, the local government act does um regulate notification times. we already 203 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:11,760 extend that period. Um that's why uh that notification was sent out prior to 204 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:17,280 this meeting uh not the board where the decision is ratified. Um so ultimately 205 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:23,280 we have already extended the notification period to give um the 206 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:29,280 community an additional I guess two weeks prior to the decision making point 207 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:33,520 which is the board meeting. If I may have a follow-up, chair, I guess my 208 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:37,600 concern or or question is really that the letter according and I we I haven't 209 00:17:36,559 --> 00:17:40,400 seen the letter because it wasn't included the not you know the statutory 210 00:17:39,120 --> 00:17:45,440 notification letter wasn't included in the report but um there's comments from 211 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:52,320 from community members who are saying that it states a deadline of August 8th 212 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:55,360 at I think they said at noon. So while that I mean that that date is already 213 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:59,760 passed here and you're saying that it's still open until the board meeting. So 214 00:17:57,120 --> 00:18:05,840 is there a way that there the language in those letters could be modified in 215 00:18:02,799 --> 00:18:09,840 order to provide people uh a more holistic understanding of well if you 216 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:14,640 want the committee to consider your correspondence it needs to be received 217 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:18,880 by this date. However ultimately until it goes to the board we have time to 218 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:22,559 receive your correspondence. >> Um yep most of those letters do include 219 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,240 the board date. If if this one didn't, then that would have been an oversight, 220 00:18:23,679 --> 00:18:28,000 but that is >> I don't I didn't see the letter. 221 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:32,320 » That would be a standard feature of of our notification letters. 222 00:18:29,679 --> 00:18:38,000 » And if I could follow up on that, um in this case, uh the letters were sent out 223 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:44,880 15 days prior to uh the regional board making a resolution. Um the board um and 224 00:18:43,120 --> 00:18:51,280 corporate is always very good about late items received and the language in it is 225 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:57,200 around when uh the electoral area services committee reviews and makes a 226 00:18:54,799 --> 00:19:04,240 determination and when the board also provides a resolution. Um and I did 227 00:19:00,559 --> 00:19:08,320 respond to the uh public [clears throat] 228 00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:13,520 uh input around that and assured them that we had met the local government act 229 00:19:10,799 --> 00:19:21,240 requirements um and extended it by an additional 5 days. 230 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:21,240 » Okay, I thank you for that. 231 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:28,400 » All right, nothing further. Call the question on receipt. All those in favor? 232 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:31,120 You in favor? Director Winnie. Yeah, that's unanimous and carried. Now, we 233 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:34,559 have two items of correspondence to receive. 234 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:39,120 » Uh, I think there's a couple motions or all options, sir. 235 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:44,039 » Yeah. >> Do we want to receive the correspondence 236 00:19:40,559 --> 00:19:44,039 first or not? 237 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:55,160 » Have you not received the report? >> No, we did that. But item B has two 238 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:55,160 items of correspondence to receive. 239 00:19:57,120 --> 00:20:04,960 Okay, >> we just move some we do the motion. 240 00:20:01,679 --> 00:20:09,200 » Could a motion to that? Please move >> Yeah, I'll move receipt of the two 241 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:14,240 correspondents. >> Second, please. Second, director Vanesh. 242 00:20:11,679 --> 00:20:17,280 All those in favor. That's unanimous and carried. Director 243 00:20:15,919 --> 00:20:22,799 Rice, motion, please. >> Thank you, chair. I'd like to move 244 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:26,240 option B that the not recommend approval of the development variance permit 245 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:31,280 DV4D26 at 4774 Lewis Road and I'm happy to 246 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:35,280 speak to it after >> second by Director Vanesh. All right, 247 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:39,600 want to speak to it? >> Yeah. 248 00:20:37,360 --> 00:20:42,720 » Again, when I uh looked at this matter, this seemed like it was a pretty 249 00:20:41,039 --> 00:20:48,000 straightforward thing, but there is a lot of pieces. I think the part that uh 250 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:53,280 changed my mind on uh which option to choose was the fact that um the 251 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:58,960 applicants do have the option to build currently within the uh proposed 252 00:20:55,919 --> 00:21:04,559 setbacks and I think that is the option that uh the residents are looking for. 253 00:21:01,679 --> 00:21:10,320 Um my only concern with that and we'll have to see how the province makes their 254 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:15,600 evaluation but uh if the uh applicants can modify their footprint on terms of 255 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:19,679 what they want to build hopefully the repairing area won't be encroached too 256 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:24,559 much. So that's why I chose option B because that seemed to be the uh option 257 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:27,679 that residents are looking for. Thank you. 258 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:31,919 » Another question on the motion. All those in favor? 259 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:36,640 unanimous and carried. Number three, environmentally sensitive 260 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:38,880 area development permit application done for receipt. 261 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:42,080 » Move receipt. >> Second 262 00:21:40,159 --> 00:21:45,400 » and planning staff can speak to this, Mr. Chair. 263 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:58,159 » Thank you. Um DP 3D25. Uh the property owners of 3030 Jodi Linway and 4059 264 00:21:54,880 --> 00:22:04,400 Southern Road in electoral area D have made application DP3D25 265 00:22:01,360 --> 00:22:10,320 for an ESAD DP to support subdivision of the land from two to three lots. The 266 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:15,679 Stonefly Creek and an Eagle Nest Free Development permit area exist um and 267 00:22:13,360 --> 00:22:19,679 trigger the DP requirement and subdivision application is with the 268 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:25,520 Ministry of Transportation and Transit as shown in the proposed site plan. The 269 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:29,760 Riperian Area's protection regulation report related to subdivision has been 270 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:35,280 accepted by the province and the regional district may issue the DP based 271 00:22:32,159 --> 00:22:40,240 on the QEP recommendations. Any additional land alteration within the 272 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:46,720 DPAs may require a DP which will then be registered on the new lots and title of 273 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:52,000 new lots if approved. In addition, there is an exist existing covenant that 274 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:57,520 requires a 15 m buffer in the high water from the high water mark of the creek 275 00:22:54,320 --> 00:23:04,240 which is greater than the 10 m um setback setback that the QEP has applied 276 00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:10,880 and no further development is proposed within this 15 m setback as well. Um 277 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:15,280 same for the 100 meter buffer for the eagle nest tree. The flood plane 278 00:23:13,360 --> 00:23:20,000 management by bylaw setback requirement of 15 meters is also met and no activity 279 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:26,080 is proposed within the buffer. [snorts] The QEP report provides recommendations 280 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:31,679 to minimize impacts to the DPAs to support the issuance of the DP uh for 281 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:37,360 the purpose of subdivision. The property is compliant with regional district 282 00:23:33,919 --> 00:23:41,880 bylaws. And um if there are any questions at all, I'd be happy to 283 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,880 answer. 284 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:48,559 Dr. >> Thank you, chair. Um, there is a lot to 285 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:52,799 unpack in this application because there's wetlands and eagle trees and 286 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:57,600 statutory rights of way and access to SRD services. At least I wasn't sure, 287 00:23:55,120 --> 00:24:00,000 but maybe that is what is meant and that that's kind of my question. I'm 288 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:06,240 wondering if you could provide a little bit more context on that piece. Uh just 289 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:11,840 that I noticed that the report says that um it's talking about historical access 290 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:16,400 permits and um if the access locations are shifted, updated environmental 291 00:24:14,159 --> 00:24:22,320 reporting and a new development permit would have to be issued. So my question 292 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:25,840 is that considering that the shift for these access permits and I'm not sure if 293 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,720 that means for sewer and water or what exactly that means or maybe it's just a 294 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:33,600 driveway. I'm not totally clear. Maybe you could explain that. And then um it 295 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:38,240 seems that the best practices by SRD staff would look be looking for that 296 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:43,919 shift. I'm just curious if there are any allowances for reduced or waved 297 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:48,320 application fees to make the shifting uh of those accesses more palatable to 298 00:24:46,159 --> 00:24:51,760 the applicant pending of course understanding what the accesses are 299 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:55,360 because I that wasn't clear to me. Sorry. Thanks 300 00:24:54,240 --> 00:25:00,880 » through the chair. Thank you for the question. Um the access permits are 301 00:24:57,679 --> 00:25:07,440 historical uh issued in 1995. The ministry has in indicated that they will 302 00:25:03,919 --> 00:25:12,000 accept the same locations. Um staff did have conversation with the applicants 303 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:19,279 regarding the locations and the riparian areas associated and that um should any 304 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:24,799 land alteration take place in relation to those access points um that they 305 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:32,960 would be required to either update the wrapper report to the um acceptance of 306 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:37,679 the province or um if done after subdivision which I don't believe is 307 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:44,720 likely it will be prior to subdivision approval. Um they would need a DP um 308 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:51,880 issued that for the purpose of those access points which are driveways and 309 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:51,880 culverts and um within the DPA. 310 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:59,279 » Can I ask a backup question because so they're for driveways but you're saying 311 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:04,799 that regardless of whether they're historical or updated, they will need a 312 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:09,840 a development permit for them. Is that what I caught there? 313 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:15,840 » Thank you. Uh to clarify, um driveway access points typically um when there 314 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:21,279 are when there is a DPA are included in the riparian area reporting um 315 00:26:19,279 --> 00:26:24,960 initially. Um, in this case, they haven't been. Um, and it was only 316 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:31,039 through discussion around those driveway access points that uh and in hopes of 317 00:26:28,799 --> 00:26:34,159 relocating them um that it was determined by the applicants that they 318 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,640 would do that at a later date if necessary. 319 00:26:35,279 --> 00:26:40,159 » All right. Okay. Thank you for clarifying that. 320 00:26:38,559 --> 00:26:46,000 » All right. Question on receipt. All those in favor? 321 00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:48,799 Manimanous and carried a motion. I make a motion. 322 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:52,000 » Yes. >> Thank you, chair. I'd like to move that 323 00:26:50,159 --> 00:26:56,400 the committee recommend the approval of the environmentally sensitive area 324 00:26:53,919 --> 00:27:01,440 development permit for water course and bald eagle nest tree as attached in the 325 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:04,240 staff report and that the corporate officer be authorized to issue the 326 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,200 permit >> second 327 00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:12,400 » second by director any discussion all those in favor 328 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:17,600 director in favor that's unanimous and carried number four Walters Cove Walter 329 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:21,520 distribution system update study for receipt receipt 330 00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:26,679 Second it. >> Uh I think Wolf Fick will speak to this. 331 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:34,559 » Morning chair. Morning committee. The purpose of this report is to um 332 00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:40,240 present the findings and the recommendations of the study uh Walters 333 00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:46,080 Co. Water distribution system upgrade done by Kors. Uh so Cors and Associates 334 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:50,880 engineering completed a feasibility study for replacing and upgrading the 335 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:55,200 water distribution system that serves residents and businesses in the Walter 336 00:27:53,039 --> 00:28:01,520 Cove area. The study reviewed existing water used, 337 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:06,240 developed two conceptual system layouts, identified required approvals, prepared 338 00:28:03,919 --> 00:28:10,574 a preliminary cost estimate, and recommend its next steps for advancing 339 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:14,080 the project. >> [clears throat] 340 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:20,640 » Uh the study was fully funded by the provincial disaster resilience and 341 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:25,440 innovation fund also known as drift. Uh so the study response to a servicing 342 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:30,960 and licensing issue um identified by the province uh the ministry of forests in 343 00:28:28,559 --> 00:28:37,279 particular in 2022. The Ministry of Forest advised 344 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:41,679 that the Kauka First Nation um could obtain a water license for service on 345 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:46,480 treaty lands but did not have authority to continue supplying water uh to 346 00:28:44,399 --> 00:28:52,240 properties outside treaty lands without additional regulatory approval. Uh 347 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:58,000 however, it is understood at the time uh KCFN did not wish to uh initiate this 348 00:28:55,279 --> 00:29:02,640 process. uh the province suggested that the SRD 349 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:10,159 take responsibility for off treaty uh service area for for this um water 350 00:29:05,679 --> 00:29:14,720 distribution system. Um and that would be the most direct 351 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:18,240 licensing option and and advised. Um so there would also be a joint works 352 00:29:16,159 --> 00:29:23,919 agreement with the first nations and that would be a requirement uh to access 353 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:29,440 water under um [clears throat] a new structure. Uh the existing system 354 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:34,559 operated by the Hayuk community association includes approximately 5 km 355 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:38,880 of mostly underwater pipe that's submarine pipe and 28 metered 356 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:43,520 connections. It serves an estimated 60 permanent 357 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:48,640 residents increasing to approximately 200 people during the summer season. 358 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:54,720 The proposed system was designed for a peak service population of 305 people 359 00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:59,360 and [clears throat] also would also allow service to be considered for home 360 00:29:57,039 --> 00:30:06,120 site island [clears throat] district lot 16009 Okami Island and Amos Island. 361 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:16,880 Uh two layout options were evaluated. Is this working? [gasps] Uh the group 362 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:21,919 layout uh meter option [clears throat] uh we call that option A would place 363 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:26,720 meters on Walters, Escos and Kiki Islands. This configuration would see 364 00:30:24,399 --> 00:30:30,480 three distribution hubs with water lines extending from each hub to the 365 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:36,080 surrounding sites. Uh compared with the centralized meter layout, option A would 366 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:42,320 require approximately 1.6 kilometers less pipe. uh involve fewer crossings of 367 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:46,159 existing electrical and telecommunications cables and likely 368 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:50,559 result in lower construction and underwater maintenance costs. Um 369 00:30:49,086 --> 00:30:56,240 [clears throat] centralized meter layout, we call that option B. If you 370 00:30:52,480 --> 00:31:01,279 think about it like a um a bicycle tire, um Walters's Island would be the hub and 371 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:05,760 then all the spokes would be the water lines that go out to individual islands 372 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:09,679 um if if you want to picture it that way. So there would be no sharing of 373 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:14,480 lines. [clears throat] Each line would have its own dedicated meter. So that's 374 00:31:11,679 --> 00:31:19,919 where that extra uh length of pipe comes from and additional costs. 375 00:31:17,906 --> 00:31:24,559 [clears throat] Uh the consultant recommends that the 376 00:31:21,679 --> 00:31:29,600 group meter option A layout uh be identified as the preferred concept. Uh 377 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:32,480 subject to further consultation and design. 378 00:31:32,316 --> 00:31:37,120 » [clears throat] >> Uh the study identified a feasible 379 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:45,519 servicing solution with preliminary class D capital cost estimated at 3.53 380 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:50,799 $3.53 million excluding taxes. Uh the estimate includes a 50% contingency to 381 00:31:48,399 --> 00:31:57,559 account for the preliminary preliminary level of design and uncertainties 382 00:31:53,679 --> 00:31:57,559 related to site conditions. 383 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:07,120 Okay. Thanks. final pipelinements um environmental and archeological 384 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:14,240 requirements and regulatory approvals um would be captured in this. Uh the 385 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:18,640 project will require several uh regulatory approvals uh typical of 386 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:24,159 infrastructure projects as well as agreements with the KCFN 387 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:27,440 as the source provider of water. Uh many of these reviews can proceed 388 00:32:25,679 --> 00:32:31,919 concurrently. However, approval timelines range significantly depending 389 00:32:29,679 --> 00:32:36,799 on the agency and the final project alignment. Uh the next phase should 390 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:44,080 include consultation with all affected parties. Uh confirmation of the service 391 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:48,240 area if if one is made uh water demands selection of the preferred layout and 392 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:52,640 completion of the required assessments and approvals. Uh these steps would help 393 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:58,559 provide a clear path for advancing the project toward uh detailed design. Uh so 394 00:32:55,919 --> 00:33:02,320 we have two options. Uh one that the committee uh recommend 395 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:07,120 the regional district apply for additional funding to move Walters's 396 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:12,480 Island water system into detailed design and b uh that no additional time be 397 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:17,919 spent evaluating improvements to Walters Island water system. Thank you. 398 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:22,240 » So if I may, Mr. Chair, just add my my two cents in here. I think we have uh a 399 00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:28,640 project that has more financial challenges than CUCO sewer. So 400 00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:33,279 So, uh, two two big challenges. One, uh, the chair, myself and Wolf are scheduled 401 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:38,000 to go out to Kok here in the next couple weeks. And before that, I believe we 402 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:43,039 have meetings scheduled with the the nation to determine their uh and I'm 403 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:47,360 just going to kind of trying to high level characterize their interest in 404 00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:54,880 this licensing issue because I'm not 100% certain about that. But is there 405 00:33:50,799 --> 00:34:00,159 some willingness or requirement for the nation as a sole provider of the water 406 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:06,640 to engage in this licensing permit process? So I think we want to determine 407 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:11,200 that. Um and the the second of course is the the cost of the infrastructure 408 00:34:09,599 --> 00:34:17,040 obviously being in the millions of dollars and and very few homes to um pay 409 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:22,320 for that. We'll obviously need to find some other source. And uh C finally is 410 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:30,320 timelines associated with it. There's a current um uh agreement servicing that 411 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:35,919 goes on now and uh this this has loomed over us for a number of years and I I'd 412 00:34:32,879 --> 00:34:43,040 like to know if there's a deadline date to this like um and if not you know what 413 00:34:40,879 --> 00:34:48,560 is the willingness to just keep this going on um by both the province and the 414 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:52,960 nation. >> Got a one little question here. There's 415 00:34:50,720 --> 00:34:56,879 that little dotted line in page 10 that seems to be a water line to Okami and 416 00:34:55,040 --> 00:35:00,640 home site and also links over to a couple of properties on the mainland 417 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:04,800 there that isn't really part of the report and I'm wondering you know 418 00:35:03,359 --> 00:35:08,920 suppose eventually this thing all went ahead. Is that line going to be 419 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,920 eliminated? 420 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:17,599 I think funding may impact that certainly right like um there's a lot of 421 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:24,160 money that is required here like you know 99% of it so um I think what we 422 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:27,680 would start with you know we need a funding opportunity there's there's no 423 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:32,079 chance that we we waste our time going out to the people and saying you 424 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:39,040 borrowed or this that the other so I I think the details of what gets serviced 425 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:42,079 are going to be somehow linked to um access to funds. 426 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:46,839 » Yeah. Do you want to just take a look at page 10 there for a second if you would 427 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,839 and just 428 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,560 » Edith is going to get there quicker than you are. 429 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:04,680 » Yeah. >> You just scroll to page 10. 430 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:13,040 Thank you for the question, Mr. Sure. Yeah. So, [snorts] basically 431 00:36:11,119 --> 00:36:15,119 » that dotted line, right? >> Yeah. It's 432 00:36:13,599 --> 00:36:18,240 » not part of the report. It's not part of the new water line, but yet it surfaces 433 00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:23,200 quite a few spots there. >> It does. Yeah. And it's headed over to 434 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:26,560 Okami and Okami has um >> it's got water, but homesite doesn't. 435 00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:30,640 » Yeah. >> And the mainland, those three lots on 436 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:35,680 the mainland there are linked in. >> Yeah. So, a lot of it will come down to 437 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:39,680 a jurisdictional. Um, so if we did a service establishment bylaw, say we went 438 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:44,560 forward with this, um, we would have to determine who's in it and who wants to 439 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:50,880 be serviced. That'd be all part of it. So I did ask, um, Kors to initially the 440 00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:56,880 report was more about just Walters Island, but I've asked them to include 441 00:36:52,960 --> 00:37:03,359 the cove as an entire area. And I would anticipate that we would probably lay a 442 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:08,079 line to to that Oak Island if we were to do a service establishment and go ahead 443 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:11,119 with a major project. But that would be determined. 444 00:37:09,599 --> 00:37:15,680 » I [snorts] think another condition is how much water is available to be 445 00:37:13,839 --> 00:37:20,560 distributed from the nation. Right? That's I think there's a lot of 446 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:25,599 uncertainty about how much water they have to provide to others and uh we're 447 00:37:23,359 --> 00:37:31,359 finding that there's a lot of leaks in the system. So that's challenging to 448 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:35,280 find out um what's required and what's available. 449 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:41,119 » Yeah, those lots on the mainland they're not part of the treaty lands or 450 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:44,640 are they or do we know? >> Um 451 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:50,880 some of them are, some of them aren't. So the school is has been transferred to 452 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:58,240 treaty lands except there is still like a maintenance agreement that sits with 453 00:37:53,599 --> 00:38:01,040 the BC um lands and infrastructure I believe. 454 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:06,640 » Right. It looks like First Nations is running water from the Huspas home site 455 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:11,440 over to Homesite Island and up to their own property. 456 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:15,839 Yeah, there's um a little bit of ambiguity and and some uncertainty for 457 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:22,160 some of the properties, but anything that is not treaty and is being serviced 458 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:27,680 would have to be considered to be put into um our establishment service area 459 00:38:25,359 --> 00:38:31,839 if we if it went ahead with it. So, all those details would be hammered out. 460 00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:37,599 » Yeah, just curious. All right. >> Okay. So, on receipt then, Dr. Mooney. 461 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:43,920 » Uh thank you, chair. I I did have a just a question about it and really it kind 462 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:50,160 of follows along with what our CIO said about this is an extremely challenging 463 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:55,280 situation and and and Nick uh saying that we have 5 km of pipe already in the 464 00:38:52,640 --> 00:39:00,640 in the underwater submarine pipe and I'm just wondering 465 00:38:57,119 --> 00:39:05,680 what can we do as a committee like what if we if there's recommendations that we 466 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:11,280 can make to the board for advocacy on on 467 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:16,079 grandfathering in or some other way of having this service that's currently 468 00:39:13,839 --> 00:39:20,560 happening continue to be functional rather than facing the costs of over 469 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:25,520 three and a half million dollars for a service for 200 residents. And really, I 470 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:30,240 mean, we we hear a lot these days about how the province is facing their own 471 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:33,839 financial constraints and fiscal constraints. And I'm wondering if 472 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:39,839 perhaps they may be slightly more understanding um of the situation that 473 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:45,200 that this is right where we are looking at millions of dollars and and meanwhile 474 00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:49,040 there's a a fairly sophisticated system that already exists with all of these 475 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:53,520 submarine cables and water meters even to each individual property. So, I'm 476 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:57,440 just looking maybe to our CEO if he has any suggestions. Maybe it I don't know 477 00:39:55,119 --> 00:40:04,160 if it's too late to request uh meetings with ministry staff on this during uh 478 00:39:59,839 --> 00:40:07,920 the pre-UBCM week. Um just looking >> just saying this is what we mentioned to 479 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,960 the minister of state when she was here that 480 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:12,160 » we did >> they grandfathered it. I mean this would 481 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:16,800 solve the whole problem. But I'm just I think beyond me mentioning it to the 482 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:20,720 Minister of State, what is the our next advocacy on this? Yeah. And how can we 483 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,960 make sure that we're actually doing that work? 484 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:27,119 » Well, I think um there's a few things. This one's complicated in terms of we 485 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:31,119 don't own anything. We don't have the source water, all the infrastructure. We 486 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:36,880 don't own anything. We don't have uh a service area there. So, a lot of it 487 00:40:33,839 --> 00:40:43,599 relies on the nation and their willingness to because um we have 488 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:49,839 nothing to kind of grandfather in. Um I I don't even know who owns that line in 489 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:51,839 the middle of the water. Um >> I think we did. We had a long-term loan 490 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:56,000 and >> But who's we? Cuz we we don't have a 491 00:40:54,320 --> 00:41:00,880 service area, right? So the regional district doesn't Does the nation own 492 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:06,640 part of it? Is is the folks on Walter Cove? I mean that that's a tricky one. 493 00:41:03,599 --> 00:41:11,680 We certainly don't own the source water. We're not in control of the licensing. 494 00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:17,119 So, it's a complicated problem that um we we need to share with the ministry. 495 00:41:15,359 --> 00:41:22,800 Uh one of the motions is that we continue and pursue additional funding 496 00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:27,440 which will um continue that narrative of the challenges that are going on and 497 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:32,240 support because I I know we can alli figure this out without provincial 498 00:41:29,839 --> 00:41:38,720 funding. there's there's no chance anything can happen here. And yet these 499 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:44,720 people rely on this water. And yet they'll also need to rely on the 500 00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:51,520 willingness and the participation of the nation to deliver it, which is seeing um 501 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:56,480 direction from the province to engage in some licensing. There's liability issues 502 00:41:54,560 --> 00:42:02,319 there. There's do they even have the source water to provide it? they have, 503 00:41:59,599 --> 00:42:08,400 you know, they they train staff to operate and monitor it. There's just a 504 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:15,280 bucket of complications here. Um, so I I think the option A is to help to to 505 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:22,560 continue pursuing it and certainly it's an issue for conversation at UBCM to 506 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:25,839 identify this unique challenge. >> Man, 507 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:28,079 » uh, thank you, Chair. I'm wondering, you know, you mentioned that you're going to 508 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:31,909 go out there and visit and and sort of meet with the nation and um get on the 509 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:34,960 ground and and have a more [clears throat] detailed look at things 510 00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:40,880 there. I'm wondering if it's worthwhile deferring this until you've gone and had 511 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:45,359 this had this meeting and and um met with the folks involved and and looked 512 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:51,839 at things on the ground. >> Well, um uh the director and I have gone 513 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:57,200 out to um Walters Cove, I don't know, seven, eight years in a row. um items 514 00:42:55,119 --> 00:43:01,599 out there take years and years and years. Um so we've engaged the 515 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:07,200 conversation. We know that people out there are quite anxious. Um they're uh 516 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:13,359 they have likely read this and have a number of questions and and next steps. 517 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:18,720 So I don't know that deferring I mean that this will take years likely. Um I 518 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:23,359 don't know if deferring solves any of those issues other than we keep pursuing 519 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:28,880 the two things that are really challenging is one we need money for 520 00:43:25,839 --> 00:43:34,720 infrastructure that's for sure and then um the the willingness or the interest 521 00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:41,119 of the nation andor the province about what licensing they need to accomplish 522 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:45,680 because there's not a whole lot in for the nation in that they don't they don't 523 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:53,680 make any money off this. They're taking their water and they're delivering it to 524 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:59,440 non nation properties. So I don't want to speak for them, but if you look at 525 00:43:55,599 --> 00:44:06,400 it, this the effort that needs to happen from the nation comes with little 526 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:11,520 incentive other than to support their neighboring non-nation community. 527 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:17,440 Director, I'd like to move ahead with option A when it comes past receipt. 528 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:21,760 Okay. Thank you. Thank you. >> Thank you, chair. Just one comment that 529 00:44:19,359 --> 00:44:27,599 that I had is I wonder if the federal government has been queried on this and 530 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:33,040 if it would be worthwhile to have our uh MP involved. 531 00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:36,960 » Another possibility in that the interesting thing there is it would be 532 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:41,599 likely if it was federal government would be a partnership with the nation. 533 00:44:39,359 --> 00:44:46,000 And again, I don't want to speak on behalf of them or make any assumptions, 534 00:44:43,359 --> 00:44:51,440 but do they have an interest in that? Because their water service needs are 535 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:55,520 are being met by themselves. They've got their water. They've put millions into 536 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:59,359 the infrastructure, reservoir, generators, treatment, the whole nine 537 00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:04,079 yards. So, from their perspective, they may look at it and go, "Well, we're 538 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:09,760 good. We don't need to partner. And if we do, is that just incurring more 539 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:15,920 liability? Is that putting more stress on our water system and what is our 540 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:20,640 incentive other than to be a you know a good neighbor if you will 541 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:24,079 the question on receipt all those in favor 542 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:27,359 and carried director >> I'll move option A that the committee 543 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:30,960 recommend that the regional district apply for additional funding to move the 544 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:35,599 Walters Island water system study into detailed design 545 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:41,119 » second director all those in favor >> I I did have a comment I Just wanted to 546 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:47,280 say that I I would be interested to hear uh from from you chair if you had any 547 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:52,000 further thoughts on as well as moving option A as well as like working on more 548 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:55,680 advocacy with the province because it does sound really complex but at the end 549 00:45:53,839 --> 00:45:59,920 of the day like you're the director representing the interests of those 550 00:45:57,359 --> 00:46:03,760 constituents who are feeling highly anxious and and wondering about their 551 00:46:01,839 --> 00:46:09,680 water and I'm just wondering how else we can advocate for this. This whole thing 552 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:13,760 is contingent on the province and staff and myself will be in contact with them 553 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:16,400 and do what we can with them. >> Thanks. 554 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:19,920 » All right. Call the question and receipt. Did we do that already? 555 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:24,640 » Okay. So, and the motion question on the motion. All those in favor and 556 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:32,400 » that's unanimous and carried. >> All right. Down to bylaws number 557 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:35,440 664 electoral area D resoning Chantrell Way for receipt. 558 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:41,760 » Move receipt. Did uh if I can jump in. Are we at bas 559 00:46:39,359 --> 00:46:43,920 or do we have another report? >> We get a second. 560 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:48,119 » Okay. >> Do we have a second on that? 561 00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:48,119 » Second. 562 00:46:49,359 --> 00:46:53,319 » Okay. Forget I said anything. 563 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:05,760 » Not on the bylaw, though. >> All right. Director Maloney, 564 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:11,839 » I did have a question for staff. Um, just curious if staff anticipate that 565 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:15,280 this resoning may predicate a need for frontage variances or development 566 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:20,760 variance for permits in the future or if you were satisfied that the subdivision 567 00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:20,760 can be done without requiring variances 568 00:47:21,359 --> 00:47:28,640 through the chair. Thank you for that question. Um, we have analyzed the 569 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:32,079 frontage requirements. Um, and it's anticipated that it will be compliant 570 00:47:30,240 --> 00:47:34,319 with all of the Strathcom Regional District bylaws. 571 00:47:33,839 --> 00:47:37,520 » Thank you. >> Thank you. 572 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:41,760 » All right. Question on receipt. All those in favor carried and unanimous. 573 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:47,839 Dr. Ray's a motion >> like to move item B that notice be given 574 00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:52,160 in accordance with section 467 paragraph 1 of the local government act that the 575 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:57,200 committee recommend that bylaw number 664 be forwarded to the board for first 576 00:47:55,280 --> 00:48:00,200 three readings and adoption >> second 577 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:10,880 discussion there see none all in favor and carries item number two bylaw 666 578 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:15,680 and by 667 Seven official community plan zoning bylaw amendments 579 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:19,839 road and lagoon road for receipt. >> Uh move receipt. 580 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:23,200 » Second. >> Anything from staff? 581 00:48:20,720 --> 00:48:28,160 » Nothing from staff. Mr. Chair. >> All right. On receipt. Director Money. 582 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:32,160 » I had a question if if I may. I was just curious. Um you know it does seem it 583 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:35,599 really appears to be a thoughtful and grounded in place application. I was 584 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:39,839 curious if staff know and can share if any of this land is in the agricultural 585 00:48:37,359 --> 00:48:43,680 land reserve and if so if any of the proposed designations or zones and 586 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:48,720 business plan align with the ALR's requirements. 587 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:57,760 Thank you again for the question. Uh we had looked at the ALR designations and 588 00:48:53,119 --> 00:49:03,359 uh AL ALR uh land itself and to the south there's a property that is within 589 00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:08,079 the ALR. These two are not. Thank you. 590 00:49:06,559 --> 00:49:11,280 » All righty. On receipt. All those in favor? 591 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:14,880 » I got something. >> I I can I can comment after receipt. 592 00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:19,599 » All right. [snorts] And on the receipt, all those in favor 593 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:22,559 next unanimous and that's carried. Item B then. Director Nesh. 594 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:26,240 » I'll move the committee recommended that bylaw number 666 and by law number 667 595 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,480 be forged to the board for first and second readings. 596 00:49:27,599 --> 00:49:31,520 » Second. >> Second. And just a comment if I can, 597 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,480 chair. >> Yes, go ahead. 598 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:39,599 » I just want to thank staff for for really working um with the applicant on 599 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:43,119 this um and and finding a way forward. I think it's a really exciting project 600 00:49:41,119 --> 00:49:47,760 that brings economic opportunity to Cortez and and really fits in with the 601 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:51,359 with the with the culture here. Um also appreciate the Cortez Advisory Planning 602 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:55,760 Commission for for reviewing the application, provided their input that 603 00:49:53,119 --> 00:50:00,960 uh that staff took and and um revised into what we're seeing today. Other 604 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:05,040 question on the motion? All those in favor? 605 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:08,559 Unanimous and carried. Item C. Director Ves, I'll move the committee recommended 606 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:13,520 the board authorize a public hearing to consider bylaw number 666 and bylaw 607 00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:17,520 number 667 and that a public hearing be held at a date, place, date, and time to 608 00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:20,400 be determined. >> Second. 609 00:50:18,079 --> 00:50:26,240 » Second by Money. I just want to mention here that the staff normally uh we took 610 00:50:23,119 --> 00:50:30,960 a water taxi over to Cortez. Is that what you got planned this time? 611 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:35,280 » Um, thank you through the chair. Um, we have not uh estab potentially yes, we 612 00:50:33,839 --> 00:50:39,280 haven't established when and where this would take place. So, that would be 613 00:50:36,559 --> 00:50:43,280 » water taxi because myself is going to attend in person and I think Dr. Money 614 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,640 also will. Are you going to attend restoration? 615 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:49,599 » I could. >> Okay. So, that could be three of us. And 616 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:53,520 then the other little amenity is you bring a sandwich and a drink with you 617 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:57,920 because you usually leave early before supper and we eat on the boat and 618 00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:02,880 » Okay. Do they noted? Thank you. >> Thank you. All right. Call the question. 619 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:09,440 All those in favor. Oh, director say there can't hear you. 620 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:12,400 » Yeah. Just wondering if um staff could It sounds like you know everybody wants 621 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:16,880 to attend this um public hearing. wondering if staff can sort of float 622 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:20,400 some dates and times through to us um rather than just sort of picking a time 623 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:23,280 if that's possible >> um through the chair. That is our 624 00:51:21,599 --> 00:51:28,200 standard process. Yes. Thank you. >> Great. Thank you. 625 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:28,200 » Make it when when we're out in Ka. 626 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:37,400 » All right. Call a question on the motion. All in favor? 627 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:37,400 » Unanimous. Gary. Yeah, we could take 628 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:44,160 no correspondence. Director's report. Serge Arrow store Heritage Designation 629 00:51:42,720 --> 00:51:45,599 for receipt. >> Move receipt. 630 00:51:45,119 --> 00:51:50,960 » Second. >> Second by director Rice. Comments. 631 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:56,800 » Um, thank you, Chair. >> Um, a couple of weeks ago, I joined SRD 632 00:51:53,839 --> 00:52:02,160 staff at the Surgeon Bunk House for a community meeting about the Surgeon 633 00:51:59,119 --> 00:52:07,040 Arrows revitalization project. And I would say the biggest thing that was the 634 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:10,880 topic and what I heard was from and sort of staff was that there was a big 635 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:16,000 concern for preserving the historic store that this was the reason for the 636 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:19,200 original grant application and it felt like something has got lost along the 637 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:23,599 way that the store is now being considered for demolition and 638 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:27,359 consideration of heritage designation was discussed at the meeting as possibly 639 00:52:25,839 --> 00:52:31,119 being a path to the building's preservation and renewal and that 640 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:36,240 potentially Such a designation may help clear some 641 00:52:33,119 --> 00:52:40,800 of hurdles that may otherwise be in the way. Uh so it was definitely for 642 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:45,520 unanimous from all Reed Island residents that were in attendance that 643 00:52:43,839 --> 00:52:50,079 this is the gateway to their community and the history of the structure mustn't 644 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:54,319 be deleted in favor of something generic with no relationship to the community. 645 00:52:52,720 --> 00:52:58,240 In fact, someone actually stated that the SRD has done a marvelous thing in 646 00:52:56,319 --> 00:53:01,680 bringing the entire community together, which is a very challenging thing to do. 647 00:53:00,716 --> 00:53:05,920 [laughter] And since then, I have received uh this 648 00:53:04,079 --> 00:53:11,599 letter which is attached here from the surge revitalization committee on behalf 649 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:16,800 of many community members asking for the SRD to provide heritage designation to 650 00:53:14,319 --> 00:53:24,160 the building. So, what I was hoping for, and I have a a motion here, um, is that 651 00:53:20,319 --> 00:53:29,359 staff could report uh on like an outline to the path to achieve the designation 652 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:33,920 through the SRD and maybe like what the timeline that for that would look like. 653 00:53:31,839 --> 00:53:38,880 And also, I'm curious if the Heritage Conservation Service, which area CRD has 654 00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:47,359 in place, may have a role to play in this. And um I'm also curious about if 655 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:52,880 this heritage if or how this designation may impact the revitalization project 656 00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:56,480 itself. So I do have a motion uh pending. Any other comments? 657 00:53:54,640 --> 00:54:02,079 » I think I think Meredith has plenty to supply 658 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:07,040 » comments now. >> Uh thank you to the chair. Um uh yes 659 00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:11,520 certainly director Mooney I was at the same meeting of course um and so I'm 660 00:54:09,359 --> 00:54:16,800 familiar with what the ask is here just by way of background for uh those at the 661 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:21,359 table um this is a project that is grant funded and must be completed 662 00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:26,000 construction by November of next year so we are on a very tight timeline for 663 00:54:23,599 --> 00:54:31,680 completing this this project. Um we are also under a tight budgetary 664 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:38,400 restriction. So we are um cautiously proceeding with exploring the heritage 665 00:54:34,720 --> 00:54:42,480 component without derailing the the remainder of the project which 666 00:54:39,599 --> 00:54:47,440 ultimately um is the revitalization of this area and the the construction of a 667 00:54:44,720 --> 00:54:51,040 warf um which is the primary focus of this project. 668 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:56,400 The original plan uh or the original concept for the store was that it would 669 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:59,839 be revitalized or restored in situ. Um as this project progressed and 670 00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:03,839 assessments were actually carried out both on the um seabed and the the 671 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:08,960 environmental assessments as well as on the building itself um it did become 672 00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:13,040 clear that under three contractors we were told um that the building was not 673 00:55:11,119 --> 00:55:18,640 restorable um and that actually a replacement was needed. So our question 674 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:23,200 or the the project shifted then from a restoration of the artifact of the 675 00:55:20,559 --> 00:55:30,240 building to a demolition of the of the structure, a relocation to the foreshore 676 00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:35,359 and for that building to be um rebuilt in a heritage style. So that is what we 677 00:55:33,599 --> 00:55:41,119 were proceeding with. Um the question today is if the SRD were to pursue 678 00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:45,200 heritage designation for that building because that would be established by 679 00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:51,599 bylaw by the SRD board. Our question to the board would be um whether or not 680 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:55,200 this board is asking us to pull that store out of this project. Again, 681 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:59,040 because it's grant funded, we would need to speak to our funders and see if that 682 00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:05,920 imperils the entirety of the project or if it can be excised and the remaining 683 00:56:01,839 --> 00:56:11,280 warf uh left un untouched. Um again, because the whole thing needs to be 684 00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:16,880 constructed by November of next year, uh we would need some some swift direction 685 00:56:14,319 --> 00:56:23,200 on on what the intent is and and how much the board does wish us to pause on 686 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:29,280 the building itself. I think if I just want to ask them to is 687 00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:35,680 what the intent is. If the intent is to include it as a heritage building, um 688 00:56:32,559 --> 00:56:42,079 that's going to be a challenge because we have communication 689 00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:46,319 um from contractors and engineers that the existing building, I don't know if 690 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:52,480 anyone's seen it, it's very very old. Structurally, nothing is salvageable or 691 00:56:49,520 --> 00:57:02,079 restorable or reusable. So if the intent of this is to um reuse 692 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:10,559 um material there, it it's just not going to be possible. 693 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:17,680 So um I'm curious what the intent of the um the motion would be. What what what 694 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:25,119 does the community ultimately want out of this? because if 695 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:29,240 it's resto you salvaging that building that's just not going to be possible. 696 00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:41,599 » Thank you to uh CEO and and to Miss Starky for their comments. And um what I 697 00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:47,119 can say is that the community of uh Reed Island has been in communication with a 698 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:51,280 somebody who also does uh heritage restorations for a living. They have a 699 00:57:49,359 --> 00:57:55,680 company and they have done an examination. They did a survey of the 700 00:57:53,200 --> 00:58:00,799 building and they concluded in at least in 2023 that the store was structurally 701 00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:05,599 sound although the underpinnings were seriously compromised. And I believe 702 00:58:03,119 --> 00:58:08,960 possibly that um staff has been communicating with this uh individual. 703 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:15,520 There was talk about getting them connected at the meeting. Um and they 704 00:58:12,559 --> 00:58:20,240 that uh person who does specialize in heritage restorations of I guess like 705 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:25,520 waterfront and water adjacent buildings uh felt that it wouldn't be that 706 00:58:22,799 --> 00:58:31,440 complicated in fact to to do the work. So I guess there's a bit of a difference 707 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:35,200 of opinion. Um, and it would be nice to maybe just take a little bit of time to 708 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:39,520 explore that with somebody that does have the experience that is a 709 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:45,599 professional and and get a more of an a thought from them because uh 710 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:50,720 I think ultimately at the moment the community would really like to see the 711 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:58,720 building have some better piles underneath it and uh use it sort of as 712 00:58:54,720 --> 00:59:04,799 is where is. But they I obviously I've never even been in it. I've seen it from 713 00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:10,319 the outside, but it sounds like um it's all built with like old growth fur and 714 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:15,520 it's been dry and it's just really the uh pilings that it's sitting on which 715 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:22,559 are problematic from my understanding. >> So if I may, Mr. chair. I I don't want 716 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:28,880 the waters to be muddied about um this group or individual says it can easily 717 00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:36,799 be restored. Um I have been in the building for my humble opinion there. No 718 00:59:31,599 --> 00:59:43,839 engineer is going to provide a report that you're going to substantially maybe 719 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:48,480 we have that or not. But um I I don't think it's fair to represent one group. 720 00:59:46,319 --> 00:59:53,119 I I don't know if this person's a qualified professional. He has any 721 00:59:51,359 --> 00:59:58,880 professional um 722 00:59:54,880 --> 01:00:04,079 ability to um certify the structural integrity. I would be shocked if anyone 723 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:09,119 did. We have communicated with engineers, I'm sure Meredith will chime 724 01:00:06,319 --> 01:00:12,799 in, that do not support that opinion. So, I don't think it's fair to 725 01:00:10,799 --> 01:00:15,680 characterize say, "Oh, somebody says no problem." At the end of the year, this 726 01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:21,359 is a building. you're going to need to have an engineer certify this. And I 727 01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:25,920 think it's very, very unlikely you're going to get an engineer that's going to 728 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:28,960 assess the structural integrity of that building and say is fine. But Meredith 729 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:33,040 may have more. >> Uh, just for clarification there, um, 730 01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:38,400 yes, the community does have a a contractor um that has some connection 731 01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:42,880 to the island that has been speaking to them on on the idea of restoration of 732 01:00:41,119 --> 01:00:46,559 the building. We have reached out to them as we had committed to the 733 01:00:44,079 --> 01:00:51,359 community that we would do. Um they have not uh carried out an assessment of the 734 01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:57,520 site. Um they have offered a proposal to us to do that work um at a cost um an 735 01:00:54,960 --> 01:01:03,359 additional cost to the project and um potentially uh by the end of September. 736 01:01:00,079 --> 01:01:08,640 So not on an ideal timeline for us with this work, but something that we are uh 737 01:01:05,599 --> 01:01:13,680 willing to entertain uh as a matter of due diligence. But I I don't anticipate 738 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:16,240 that the outcome would be different. Thank you, 739 01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:20,640 » Director. >> Thank you, Chair. Um, I've also toured 740 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:24,319 the the building and been inside uh a number of times, and you know, from my 741 01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:29,520 non-professional perspective, the the building is sort of collapsing into the 742 01:01:25,839 --> 01:01:32,480 ocean. Um, however, I do think there are things from the building that could be 743 01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:36,240 put into a new building. You know, there's some really neat old signs 744 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:40,319 there. or there's perhaps some um you know some pieces and artifacts and and 745 01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:47,119 aspects of this old building that could be um could help make a new building, 746 01:01:43,359 --> 01:01:51,599 you know, have that connection. Um but yeah, I I'm quite shocked to say that to 747 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:55,920 hear that that someone is saying that they this could be rebuilt. Um you know, 748 01:01:54,000 --> 01:02:00,400 I've walked it was dangerous. It was really dangerous just to actually walk 749 01:01:57,359 --> 01:02:05,040 in there. Um, and at that time, this was a couple of years ago, there was an old 750 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:08,640 fellow living in that in that space. Um, and yeah, it was was really not 751 01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:12,160 adequate, but you know, it's a it's a really beautiful, you could you could 752 01:02:10,799 --> 01:02:17,359 see the history in the building. There's old there's still old things from the 753 01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:21,920 store on the shelves. Um, and you know, I think there's opportunity here to to 754 01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:27,920 not restore the building, but but use parts of the building to to to bring the 755 01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:32,799 spirit of the building into a new space. I would say that's a good 756 01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:38,799 characterization of how staff and the contractors 757 01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:43,760 uh have represented it. >> May I ask first of all 758 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:48,640 » can I ask a question? I just um is it so I just wanted to clarify that that there 759 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:53,839 is uh it sounds like there is a willingness to sort of um explore do 760 01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:59,760 your due diligence I think is the term that you use to explore this possible 761 01:02:57,359 --> 01:03:04,480 path and then will you be reporting back to us at the end of September? Is that 762 01:03:01,359 --> 01:03:08,400 kind of the idea? Um I suppose sorry through the chair. Um yes we have 763 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:14,400 committed to the community that we we would speak to the representative that 764 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:17,760 they've flagged for us. Um yes uh anticipating that we would probably need 765 01:03:16,079 --> 01:03:23,359 to come back to this board because depending on the outcome of of their 766 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:28,720 assessment it could potentially change what is being proposed for this project. 767 01:03:25,359 --> 01:03:34,720 Um the only limitation there is that uh what timing they might actually be able 768 01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:40,160 to return that um is is somewhat to be determined. Uh and also we do need to 769 01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:46,240 proceed with the project in in advance of that report being received. So we are 770 01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:49,920 we will be working to create a tender package. I mean the tender package has 771 01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:55,839 been created but um to amend that t tender package so that we can adjust uh 772 01:03:52,640 --> 01:04:00,160 further if we need to. Um, however, we do not wish to imperil the entirety of 773 01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:03,359 this project to pursue this line of inquiry. 774 01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:07,599 » I I really appreciate that and I don't want to imperil the project either. So, 775 01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:13,599 I think that's great. And just um I'm not sure in that case um I do have a 776 01:04:10,799 --> 01:04:17,200 motion prepared that was just to uh ask for a report on what the next steps and 777 01:04:15,359 --> 01:04:21,119 timeline for heritage designation would be and the impacts on the revitalization 778 01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:26,480 project. And I guess I'm just wondering from the CEO's perspective or or or the 779 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:31,839 chair or the staff perspective if it's necessary to make that motion or if 780 01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:35,359 there will be a report anyway. Sounds like there might be one anyway. 781 01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:41,920 » Um there I mean if the motion is fine if 782 01:04:39,359 --> 01:04:47,200 the understanding is this is not going to inhibit our current process and we 783 01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:51,200 can give you information on this. um what Meredith spoke to is is going to 784 01:04:49,359 --> 01:04:57,599 move forward and we'll bring something back um high level. I'm sure we could do 785 01:04:54,160 --> 01:05:02,240 that um in the next month um as long as it's understood that that that it's not 786 01:04:59,599 --> 01:05:07,119 contingent on um the progress where we're we're moving forward with. 787 01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:12,079 » Yeah, absolutely. And and I believe from the meeting that we had at Surgeon 788 01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:16,880 Arrows that it was kind of stated by staff that they would they were going to 789 01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:21,200 work on the warf part or the dock part first and so that there might be a 790 01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:23,839 little bit more space in there. So okay. Well then following receipt chair I will 791 01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:27,680 have a a motion to make. >> All right. Call a question on receipt. 792 01:05:25,119 --> 01:05:31,280 All those in favor that's unanimous and carried in your motion. 793 01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:36,240 » Thank you. I will move that the committee recommend that a report be 794 01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:42,559 prepared on the steps and timeline to achieving SRD heritage designation for 795 01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:45,680 the surge narrow store and include potential impacts to the revitalization 796 01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:49,680 project. >> Second 797 01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:53,599 favor and carried. 798 01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:59,520 » Any new business? I think we had an item. 799 01:05:56,160 --> 01:06:04,960 » We did. Thank you, chair. I was hoping that uh to get a verbal update on the 800 01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:09,039 Quadra Island shore access project. I know there's some paths that maybe 801 01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:15,720 needed to be cleared with a backhoe or something and I was just wondering where 802 01:06:10,559 --> 01:06:15,720 we were with that project. Thanks. 803 01:06:18,319 --> 01:06:29,680 » Uh thank you through the chair. Um yeah, so uh we continue sort of planning 804 01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:36,400 mainly on this project. Um we have I believe seven sites left from 805 01:06:33,119 --> 01:06:41,359 the original um list of sites that was compiled 806 01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:47,520 uh I believe in 2014. Um these are some of the remaining phase 2 or phase three 807 01:06:44,559 --> 01:06:53,760 sites. Um, so we have a couple slated for potential 808 01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:59,039 signage and minor minor trail improvements or trail development uh 809 01:06:56,720 --> 01:07:03,039 hopefully this year uh in conjunction with the uh Quadr Island Trails 810 01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:08,240 Committee. Um hoping to circle back with them when 811 01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:13,760 they're back in action in the fall. As I understand they usually take the summer 812 01:07:10,079 --> 01:07:19,520 off. Um, we do have a couple sites uh in the 813 01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:26,480 Gallon Harbor area that require uh more extensive work to create uh safe parking 814 01:07:23,039 --> 01:07:32,079 uh and turnaround areas for vehicles. Um so we still continue to work on planning 815 01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:37,440 for those sites um putting together more detailed cost estimates and working with 816 01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:42,000 Mott to determine our permitting requirements there. 817 01:07:39,839 --> 01:07:48,480 uh because they do require more extensive work. Uh we do anticipate our 818 01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:54,559 our preliminary discussions with Ma indicate um we likely need engineered 819 01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:59,680 designs for those structures. So that uh is an additional cost that um wasn't 820 01:07:57,839 --> 01:08:04,160 originally anticipated as part of the project. 821 01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:08,480 Um yes. And then we have a couple sites 822 01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:15,359 that uh are are sort of in a holding pattern. Um 823 01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:22,159 one um is in Q Cove where we have been having some ongoing conversations with 824 01:08:18,239 --> 01:08:26,359 uh the Wiiwakai First Nation as the site is adjacent to their property. 825 01:08:28,319 --> 01:08:35,199 » Go ahead. Thank you for that report and it's [snorts] great to hear that things 826 01:08:33,199 --> 01:08:40,080 are continuing uh at least in the planning phase. So do you anticipate 827 01:08:36,799 --> 01:08:46,560 that there would be a report coming back to this committee before uh budget 828 01:08:43,199 --> 01:08:51,600 season so that we director whoever it may be could uh look at that amount and 829 01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:55,839 determine if it was going to go into the parks budget for next year. Is that what 830 01:08:53,359 --> 01:08:59,199 the idea would be? I would think at the likely at the one-on- ons that would be 831 01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:05,040 something I don't think we'll have a separate report before that. Um 832 01:09:02,319 --> 01:09:09,679 obviously elections in October, the one-on- ones traditionally are in 833 01:09:07,279 --> 01:09:15,600 December. So I think we'll put all that together in an information package and 834 01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:20,400 kind of present that at the area C101 and then see what the director wants to 835 01:09:18,480 --> 01:09:23,520 move forward based on the information we provide. 836 01:09:21,359 --> 01:09:27,759 » Okay. And uh just one other quick question. You mentioned structures and 837 01:09:25,839 --> 01:09:33,040 engineered drawings, but are we not I thought we were talking about paths. 838 01:09:31,359 --> 01:09:41,040 » Um so through the chair um a couple of the 839 01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:46,080 sites uh don't have sufficient area for public parking. Uh so in terms of 840 01:09:43,759 --> 01:09:52,960 structures there we just need to build like a gra essentially widening of 841 01:09:48,239 --> 01:09:58,400 existing driveways creating um an area for public vehicles to turn around and 842 01:09:55,920 --> 01:10:02,560 park safely without impeding the existing private driveways that pass 843 01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:10,480 through the rightways. Um as well at at one site we due to the 844 01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:16,239 topography um and drainage at the site we will need to build uh like a 845 01:10:13,440 --> 01:10:19,120 staircase and some boardwalk. So those those are the kind of 846 01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:19,840 structures we're talking about. >> Okay. 847 01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:23,760 » Yeah. >> That's exciting. Okay. Thank you. 848 01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:25,760 » We have a motion to receive the verbal report. 849 01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:28,320 » We did. >> Second. 850 01:10:27,199 --> 01:10:34,080 » Second. >> Who moved it? 851 01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:38,159 You moved it. Okay. All those in favor? That's unanimous and carried. Motion to 852 01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:41,760 terminate. >> Second. 853 01:10:38,719 --> 01:10:44,560 » Thank you. All in favor? That's unanimous and carried. Thank you 854 01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:47,880 everybody. Thank you. >> Thanks everyone.