[0:00] what oh well good morning and Welcome to our summer coffee with Council session I [0:07] want to thank you all for coming to those people who are at home watching [0:11] online we appreciate you for being here um I know there have [0:16] been there have been some uh it's in the way of my coffee now um [0:25] [Music] [0:34] okay this isot he just wandered in some guy who [0:40] just wandered in so this is your opportunity to [0:45] provide feedback to council we're hoping that we can have an open discussion a a [0:49] cordial discussion and you can be able to ask your questions that you have and [0:54] we have staff available here to help answer any of your questions specific [0:58] ones you might have and if you uh don't get an answer to your question or or we [1:04] cannot answer your question today we will get your contact information and we [1:09] will get an answer to you as soon as possible so just a reminder that this [1:13] coffee with council is live live streamed and 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up [2:13] and then we'll talk about the questions that have been submitted we have a [2:17] question over here from [2:24] Linda uh I have a question about um mowing uh [2:30] I realized mowing may have been cut down and that's fine but uh I live in [2:36] Glennwood the Forgotten area of Strathmore which has been there since [2:41] 1955 and when they come to Mo they always send a team afterward to [2:48] do the trim around the trees Etc so the first time they mowed this year it was [2:53] done promptly the second time it was 3 days later and today it is day eight [2:58] from when they mowed the lawn in Glenwood and there's been no trim done [3:03] so I was hoping that Donna McCallum would be here or somebody that anyway if [3:08] somebody can answer my question at some point thank you um I'll turn to one of [3:12] the staff members Jamie who is our director of infrastructure and [3:19] operations uh good morning my name is Jamie dugdale director of uh [3:23] infrastructure operations and development services so I'll share that [3:25] with Donna um I think uh we'd like to have a better standard than that so I do [3:30] apologize so I'll share that with Donna mcallum and make sure that we do a [3:33] little better job at kind of returning to do that trimming so I'll definitely [3:36] share that with her yeah I'll share that with [3:43] her thank you are there other questions oh we have a question from Clara and the [3:48] gentleman in yellow or lime green thank you good morning good [3:54] morning uh I have um been over to the new [4:00] at the uh garbage disposal site and I was uh recycling sorry yeah and I was uh [4:09] quite surprised because I haven't been there for quite some time and I uh I'm [4:15] so used to go to the hwad one and I was quite shocked coming to uh [4:23] what now has apparently been what town is utilizing [4:29] uh first of all I don't or we don't use uh the bin [4:34] system because uh I find it inconvenient for me because I have six boxes or seven [4:40] or more you know with one with soft plastic one with h plastic and so on and [4:47] so on so I used to go to hwad and just within few minutes have it all dumped in [4:52] from my blue boxes into the various ones and now I came to what [5:00] at the present is what the town is running and I'm kind of questioning uh [5:07] why are we now having that one compared to what seemed to work very very well uh [5:13] with the hits uh because first of all I'm a short person and I cannot get up [5:21] to those uh little rectangle places and dump in my uh [5:29] garbage no matter what it is the only thing that [5:32] was available was just a dumb inin was the soft plastic one all the other ones [5:36] was impossible for me to do especially if it was a windy day you know it would [5:40] be blowing all over the place and I can't reside so my question is uh why [5:47] have we gone from the hawed service or to what apparently now is what the town [5:55] provides on the south side of our okay thank you and you're not the first first [5:59] person who's asked us that as far as the height of the bins I know our coo and I [6:04] have talked and U one of the one of the options that would help maybe and I can [6:09] ask you if it would help is if if there were stairs at those new Bins with that [6:13] well there is a little step stools or whatever it is you need a l but yeah but [6:18] also I cannot take my containers and dump them in you know as we were able to [6:26] do previously okay because you have to stand and take one item out at a time [6:31] and reach up into those little slots okay um is there someone on staff I can [6:37] turn to as far as uh the change from hookstead to Blue Planet as far as [6:42] Recycling and then what we can do as far as the bin Heights and uh seniors who [6:48] need to get up to the uh bins to get rid of their [6:52] recyclables uh good morning again so the reason we we switch recycling locations [6:58] uh was we switched to Blue Planet they're a different contractor that's [7:01] collecting garbage uh for us and running the recycle yard so uh like the mayor [7:07] said we can certainly look at how that's working for people or not working for [7:11] people and perhaps make some changes so we did we went from Waste Management to [7:16] Blue Planet as the provider so that required us to change the location of [7:19] the recycle Depot but if uh residents are having problems getting their [7:23] recycles put there then we can certainly look at better solutions to allow people [7:27] to do that more easy easily [7:35] okay [7:44] so sure and and I mean Our intention is to improve service so that's why we'll [7:48] look at that but every every certain amount of years when a contract is over [7:51] we do a what we call an RFP so we go out to Market and then private companies [7:56] will respond to that RFP and we'll look at all the submissions and we make a [7:59] decision based on who gives us the best submission so that's kind of why that [8:03] changed um obviously our desire is that service will remain the same or get [8:08] better so that's why I'll take that away and and we'll look at how we can make [8:11] the recycle Depot look better for [8:20] you [8:24] uh yeah yeah sure if you give me a few weeks a couple of months uh and I know I [8:30] have to talk with my manager of infrastructure first and talk about [8:33] Solutions and we have to look at what that might cost and how to Source them [8:36] but uh we can definitely take that away and hopefully in a month or two you'll [8:39] see a [8:46] difference attention thank you now we uh live over on Lakeside views and we have [8:55] our little uh Garden here your p in front of us uh a couple of years ago I [9:03] think it is now we had um some tree pruning service that the town hired [9:11] apparently to take down dead trees and and so on now at the moment and it has [9:18] been there for all the time we have been here in town uh a big poer tree on the [9:24] south end of the the Garden area and uh I just took a walk to the [9:31] Garden area this morning and I'm quite disappointed [9:36] really of what a beautiful area we have in there and [9:41] how it seems to be not being able to to be be [9:46] kept all the dead branches from that tree because so many many of the [9:52] branches is dead and they are laying all over the the ground and of course that [9:58] doesn't make it any better but also we [10:03] have quite a few Park staff young people that comes to work and they come in now [10:10] we were not around in the early spring as they start to to do the maintenance [10:16] work but I've been kind of watching it over the years that we've been here and [10:22] uh who is in charge of educating those young ones and supervising them and [10:29] guiding to to what to do because nowadays they seem to kind of come in a [10:34] group with a truck park the truck and then four or five or six of them comes [10:41] out and I think they need some guidance and supervision to be able to be [10:47] utilizing the time and the effort the town put into to try to keep a a parks [10:53] and they is be beautified because I think the resources [10:59] is there but I'm just kind of questioning are anybody going out and [11:04] and giving the instruction on and why to do because you can't expect the young [11:09] ones to be able to just kind of come and know everything [11:14] so quite often they kind of sit there and uh having a good time and of course [11:19] they're picking some here and there but uh when you have to get to the bottom of [11:24] weed you just don't pull you get in and and get to the main CLA I can tell you [11:32] that I I had an informal talk with Donna mallum who's in charge of the U the park [11:38] staff Ground St and uh she's um she's got in her mind some things to do she [11:43] wants to spend more time mentoring and working with the young people so it's on [11:47] our radar and uh I'm sure Donna mallum will uh will be a positive force with [11:53] those with those workers well they are wonderful bunch of young ones it's just [11:57] that I feel that they are not educated enough to be able to to really [12:03] yeah I just want to assure you that that Don is aware and she's she's uh going to [12:08] spend time working with her staff and M we appreciate that I think it was be [12:12] beneficial for everything and everybody thank you very much thank you Claire if [12:17] I can just follow up on that too you know one of the things that uh that's [12:21] really useful for Donna because you know she she now our town is growing and this [12:26] has been a really bad year for for um um winter kill there was a lot of winter [12:32] kill and um and one of the things that really helps is if uh if people [12:38] communicate through the communication form it's not always convenient for for [12:42] people you know if you if you don't like uh using computers you don't you don't [12:47] necessarily uh think that's your best thing but one of the things that you can [12:52] do you can you can always just you can phone any one of the counselors our our [12:56] numbers are are public or uh and ask us to do it too and and if you give us a [13:01] date like Lakeside Muse and we know in the corner and now on the town property [13:05] there's Deadfall and if she knows that she she's very very more likely don't [13:11] don't except in the case of Linda who just took eight days to get mowing done [13:15] um and uh and there's and Donna probably has a rational reason it's probably due [13:19] to the freaking Water Crisis that she's been dealing with but but it's good for [13:23] them to know because then it's recorded then they know they have your statement [13:28] and it's now expectation that that there is a followup and that something happens [13:32] so that citizen communication for is is really useful I know councelor langmaid [13:37] is really good she she um guides lots and lots of people through it too to uh [13:43] to get to where it needs to do it so we'll definitely do that we' be happy to [13:46] do that and I know that Donna would be grateful to know because it really helps [13:51] her [13:55] yeah and and you know that and you're you're not alone you know that that it's [13:58] not not it's not um the easiest to navigate for sure [14:08] so this is informal and this is really good [14:14] yeah no you've made no mistake but but if it happens again if it happens again [14:19] you know [14:22] yeah yeah no this you've made no mistake no this is exactly the place to bring it [14:28] and and uh and if we can make that process easier for you when it happens [14:31] or should it happen again [14:35] yeah y well that's [14:42] important it is beautiful [14:47] yeah yeah no no it's good to [14:53] know thank you Clara and thank you councelor Peterson uh question from the [14:57] gentleman back there we have a microphone coming to you right [15:01] now good morning I have a few questions actually it's regarding Park Lane Drive [15:07] uh obviously um Anthem United is doing some development back there and uh it's [15:13] been surveyed everything else number one uh none of the residents have received a [15:18] plot plan or anything else about what's going on back [15:21] there uh with the new one I mean that development's been going on for 18 years [15:26] now uh they're finally doing some something with it there's been many many [15:30] changes made and we really haven't got any answers to what's going on uh I have [15:36] a call into uh Anthem United I'm waiting for a return on it to be quite honest um [15:44] however in the original proposal there was supposed to be I believe it was [15:47] about 86 houses back there and all of a sudden it went up to about 186 [15:55] houses um part of that obvious obviously was land costs uh because when um [16:03] stantech was the engineer on record they obviously made a mistake because the [16:07] fillet was moved from the ranch over to uh the commercial area raised the [16:14] elevation over there substantially and lowered the elevation behind us so there [16:18] was additional costs involved and I can understand um the lot costs everything [16:24] else to go with it however in saying that um [16:29] with the added residential units that have gone in there um Council and it [16:36] wasn't this Cil it was a previous one or the one before had passed a narrow lot [16:42] bylaw uh the original understanding was all the perimeter Lots were supposed to [16:47] be 50 ft um that back on the Park Lane [16:53] Drive uh my understanding now they're all 35 [16:57] ft uh and second ly there was supposed to be a buffer zone of 10 m between [17:02] property line to property line and that was derived actually when uh I believe [17:09] Mr grac was mayor and that Council and then the previous Council went down to [17:16] the narrower lot sizes so there is a concern with the residents along Park [17:22] Lane Drive whether that buffer is still in place or not or whether we're going [17:26] to have a 35t property backing right onto our [17:30] uh our property line and there's other things that go with it um uh [17:36] the I guess the uh Road um that was proposed that was going [17:42] to join parkline from klyber Trail uh that was taken out of the original plan [17:48] because Park Lane Drive is not a commuter [17:51] Road um you're making it a commuter road now uh actually you look at I think if [17:58] you look at a lot of um um information that's I've researched [18:04] on the web on that the minimum width of a commuter road is um 44 ft Park Lan [18:12] drives 42 ft also they have driveways backing onto the road all the way [18:17] along so in saying that I guess um you have to look at snow [18:23] clearing which has always been an issue in Park C it's a bus route everything [18:27] else your plows come down they windro the stuff in front of uh all the [18:33] residents and that um maybe some of you know now I'm sure you do cars with all [18:39] their safety features my wife's car won't even back over one the car shuts [18:45] down so uh there have been calls made to um the people responsible for snow [18:53] clearing and that I'm sorry I can't remember the name of your your [18:56] department and that and the respons once has been we were allowed to uh wind Ros [19:03] snow to the height of 1 meter that was it so they block people in there's a lot [19:08] of elderly people on that street I don't put myself into that category but I'll [19:14] be quite honest I have blown out people's driveways with my snow [19:18] blower uh I've had the BW officer come and tell me I can't do anything on the [19:23] street um how do people get out of their driveways so what are your plans if that [19:29] is going to be a commuter Road or a collector Road I guess what are your [19:35] plans for the intersection on Freeman Trail and [19:39] that there's not enough room for a right turn in there you're going to have to [19:43] take a house out you know on the other side uh you've [19:49] put a right turn exit in and a threeway and that but on the other side there's [19:54] nothing there so you have one lane that's going to take that traffic [19:59] how are you going to deal with that you know and I mean we could go on [20:04] and on I could take all morning going over this but I guess the big thing is [20:08] the development there's no information out [20:12] there from no one we don't know what's going on okay thank you um I think I can [20:18] turn to our staff as far as how we can get more information to you as far as [20:23] what Anthem has planned um as far as that road from r going on to Park Lane [20:30] Drive that's proposed as long as I've been on Council it's always been a thing [20:36] that's supposed to be coming that Connector Road over to Park Lane Drive I [20:40] am not aware of any Council that has said it'll never be a connector to [20:45] Parklane drive as far as Parklane Drive um I believe it is a connector Road and [20:50] like you said it does have school buses on it so um we can definitely look at [20:56] getting more information to I can explain the R1 the r1n uh this the [21:02] narrower Lots what Strathmore has tried to do is find a way to have more people [21:08] be able to get into housing because as I think as you all know uh we're in a [21:13] housing crisis in Strathmore and there's young people who have very difficult [21:17] times affording the inflation is really high the interest rates are are still [21:21] very reasonable but to get into a home you need a lot of money and the other [21:26] thing that the C that I was on did that that brought about or helped bring about [21:33] the uh the narrower Lots is that Strathmore is a is a rural town and [21:39] we're trying to avoid urban sprawl into Farmland so we've increased the density [21:44] in our town and I understand that some of you who have big properties with with [21:49] Big Lots may have some reservations about a narrower lot 35 instead of a 50 [21:55] Frontage I don't think it necessarily means that you're going to have a bad [22:00] situation behind you but we do need to be uh cognizant or aware of reducing our [22:08] spread into into agricultural land as much as we can and to also try to make [22:13] housing at least attainable for younger families and so we did go ahead with [22:18] some narrower Lots I know that may not sit well with [22:22] the people who are on Park Lane Drive but I think our staff um maybe our CAO [22:27] or Jamie we can talk about uh getting you information as to what's planned in [22:33] that Anthem area and you're right it's been sitting for a long time and they [22:37] are staking out and getting ready to go um and I'm I'm just wondering is that is [22:44] that road that's going to connect to Park Lane from Ranch is that where the [22:47] empty lot is is there an empty lot like a park kind of a space a small green [22:54] space yeah and that's right where the road is going to come to Park Lane [23:04] y [23:55] behind [23:59] the [24:47] [Music] [24:57] respon [25:26] thank thank you um I understand your your concerns on parking Drive um the [25:32] traffic part or the speeding part that's something that we can look into as well [25:37] uh you also had a a comment about Windrose and I don't think there's I I [25:42] don't think there's an easy fix to not having wind RS because when you plow a [25:47] street it's got to go to one side or the other and so it does create wind RS I [25:52] get them on my street as well they're all through Strathmore but the only way [25:56] to get rid of a windro is if is if if you were lifting your blade at every [26:00] driveway and not plowing it onto driveways which would be incredibly [26:05] slow pardon me in angling it [26:10] towards the middle of the street [26:21] [Music] [26:36] the new development over there it used to go under the highway into cber land [26:41] and that that's been shut off so it just uh creates uh a storm Pond for lack of a [26:49] better work in the ranch development so you know there's places [26:53] to dump that snow and there's places to to uh get rid of it off the Road and I [26:59] can go back in stratmore before um where they wind rode the snow [27:05] into the middle of the road and the complaint was oh gosh I got to drive [27:09] around the block to get into my driveway well you know what you can still get [27:12] into your driveway well we can we can actually I [27:17] can turn to staff to explain why we don't create a pile in the middle of the [27:21] streets they'll they'll probably be able to address that um as far as dumping [27:28] snow into those areas again I don't have the operational experience I can turn to [27:34] our staff for that um but again as far as my knowledge as a counselor I have [27:40] always thought that that Ranch Road was going to connect [27:45] to uh Park Lane Drive now I'm I'm not sure about the Ballard system but again [27:51] we can address your questions as far as seeing the plan and finding out about [27:56] the buffer zone as far as what you folks were told and what the new design looks [28:01] like um can I turn to J sure so I guess I'll answer the question or try to [28:06] answer the question first on the on the planning items um Ranch the ranch [28:11] development one of the challenges we have with that is um it was I guess [28:16] conceptualized before we required what's called an area structure plan which is a [28:21] process through Council uh it's a plan that's adopted through Council by a [28:26] bylaw um the Ranch again was approved before we used those as a tool in [28:31] Strathmore so um way back when probably around 2000 I'm not sure when that was [28:37] done but the the public wouldn't have got the same kind of input as they would [28:40] if we got a new ASP today um the reason that that [28:46] development has the through Road uh is and you mentioned it when you were [28:50] asking questions was with relation to emergency access the number of homes in [28:55] there we did bring a report to council in I believe July of 2021 kind of [29:00] summarizing both the the engineering rationale as well as the fire and EMS [29:05] rationale for that through road so that would have went to Council in July of [29:08] 2021 just to ensure that they were again on on side with why staff made that [29:14] decision to approve the subdivision in that way um but as the mayor said we can [29:18] get you that most recent subdivision approval so you're aware of it um and [29:24] the rezoning as well would have gone through a public hearing I think there [29:27] was two rezonings in that phase that changeed like you suggested from larger [29:31] lots to smaller Lots um on the snow removal um yeah we hear about wind rows [29:36] every every year um it's a challenge um unfortunately we can't just dump snow [29:43] anywhere um environmental regulations from The Province are quite stringent [29:49] these days um that's why we have a snow dump and we actually improved our snow [29:53] dump in the last couple years to make sure it was compliant um that being said [29:58] this fall we every fall we come to council with an update on snow removal [30:01] and our practices and to find out if Council feels the public would would s [30:08] support any changes again with increased resources um we did I think a couple of [30:12] years ago consider wind rows in the middle of the street like you suggested [30:17] um while yourself and some people might be happy with that some other people [30:20] like you said might not be uh doesn't mean we can't do that and we'll look at [30:24] it again um but again in September we'll be coming to council with an update uh [30:28] so I would suggest you um share your feedback with Council before then as you [30:32] did today and we can look at that and what it would what it would mean [30:35] operationally to [30:47] do okay I've gotone my rear end three times trying to get over the wind rows [30:51] into my traffic it is a safety issue that snow [30:56] is plowed right underneath V Les it's plowed up over the running rails [31:01] everything else so I mean it's a huge concern so I'd like you to consider that [31:06] as well because someone goes on their rear end and ends up in the hospital you [31:12] know what's going to happen I know what's going to happen there'll be a [31:17] lawsuit so I'm wondering if I could just interject Jonathan do you have the date [31:23] is it in September when the U snow clearing is coming coming up to us is [31:29] that might be a meeting you'd like to come to because we have a public meeting [31:33] and a discussion Tammy September 11th okay it's September 11th September 11th [31:40] so if if you're free on September 11th Mark that in your C uh calendar we start [31:45] at 6: p.m and if uh there's an item on the agenda the public I will I can turn [31:51] to the public and say if you have any questions or concerns or comments you'll [31:55] be allowed to speak on it since it's on the agenda that night [31:58] you're welcome Pat can I say one thing about that can the graders at least lift [32:03] their blade when they go past the mailboxes there can't be that many [32:07] mailboxes that that would be a problem I can't get over a drift this high from my [32:12] car to my mailbox okay um maybe we can make a note of that and it can be part [32:17] of our discussion on September 11th Canada Post Yeah Canada Post lets [32:24] us know when there's issues believe me uh sure and then they we talk to them [32:29] regularly through the winter so uh we'll we'll make sure we pay attention to that [32:34] we need a better solution for for Post Office boxes it it causes seniors [32:39] especially tremendous grief I I want to go back that's this one works thanks I [32:45] want to go back to your point about about the danger of wind RS when they're [32:50] when they're plowing in your streets and and I I would be really interested to [32:54] find out from from our infrastructure or from people with lived EXP experience [32:58] whether it's worse on some streets than others like it like does it does it make [33:03] a difference and so I live in the old area of downtown um the mayor has a name [33:09] for the area I do L you're the one who named it so um I live on a street across [33:15] from a school and so you know we're uh as old as we are we're plowing out those [33:20] 4ot wind rows uh in front in front of our our driveway as well and um and I'm [33:26] wondering if there is isn't you know some plan in the in the offing where [33:31] where this Park Lane Drive Park Lane like you're talking about is a different [33:36] context than than area say where I live in the downtown that is a a bus pickup [33:41] route or a place where hundreds of parents pick up their children every day [33:45] and and I think that that would be a really good a useful exercise to [33:48] undertake to do we have to apply the same standard in every neighborhood all [33:53] the time and um and and uh Linda Ferguson's pointed about the mailboxes I [33:58] think is something that's becoming you know as our Winters are are more [34:02] mercurical and there's more ice and you know it's just becoming more and more [34:05] treacherous especially for a senior in a community with 25% of our population [34:10] being seniors it's really not a good thing the other thing that I wanted to [34:14] address is the speeding on Parklane drive and that is something that came to [34:18] council um slightly less than two years ago and we did we did undertake a study [34:23] on on Parklane drive and they did find some some excessive speeds but not um [34:31] not enough to to do more than the take take more than the action they did take [34:36] which was to put that flashing light in on the pathway by the canal and they put [34:40] that in there because of all the young people that are walking from the um Holy [34:45] Cross Collegiate and Sacred Heart across that pathway and um the people who live [34:51] on that on the uh south side of the street at in that area have said it has [34:55] made a difference but uh we know that it's a a Speedway I've seen it myself [35:01] difference however if you go further east yeah on Park Lane uh by the lift [35:06] station yeah and that as soon as people come along uh come off Freeman Trail [35:13] they just Hammer their gas ped it is a Speedway I I've seen it yeah at the [35:17] curve you know they start slowing down a bit and then conversely when they're [35:21] going east at the curve they Hammer the gas we've had people come down there at [35:25] 120 clicks and and that was and you turn around and yes you know you have had [35:31] your B out there occasionally and I'll use the term [35:34] occasionally however try it at 6:00 in the morning so do you do you think that [35:39] it would be useful so so you you you said that the flashing light has helped [35:43] on the one end that it has made a difference we also now have a school [35:47] zone just on the other side on on George Freeman Trail where we have lots of [35:51] other kids walking to school as well on on George Freeman Trail we have another [35:55] school now yes and so you know having a Raceway in between where you have [36:00] literally hundreds upon hundreds of children walking every day yeah do you [36:05] think there is some use in doing a test to see if we could put another flashing [36:09] light in on the curve on the other side of the of the um well I don't think it's [36:13] NE on the curve I think probably and you've put a uh a pedestrian light in [36:19] now across from uh well right at your lift station I believe the address is [36:23] about 1 I don't know 57 something like that there's a pedestrian light that's [36:28] gone in because of numerous complaints by a person and that um it does no [36:34] good they just the way they go so we need to alert bylaw pardon me [36:40] so it's a bylaw situation well I personally I think it is but you know [36:45] somewhere along the line I mean people work so at 10:00 in the morning you're [36:49] going to get people ripping down there occasionally yes is 6:00 in the morning [36:54] then try it at 7 8 and 9:00 at night because Park Lane Drive is an escape [36:59] exit out of the city or out of the Town it always has been since it's been [37:03] developed so you know um younger generation now they've been a lot better [37:09] about drinking and driving than when I was young because that was a thing to do [37:14] it isn't anymore you know and I give them credit for that but it's still an [37:19] Escape Route so you get the guys in their trucks that go bombing down there [37:23] you get the guys in their cars everything else there's noise I I mean [37:28] I've got pictures of vehicles license plate and the [37:31] driver that is a constant Menace on that road you know you turn around and it's [37:40] it's ridiculous it really is and it just seems like something that's been totally [37:45] ignored and this this has been going on well [37:49] before um this council's time and it has been brought up um when [37:57] [Music] um can't remember his name but I mean [38:02] it's been brought up when Steve graic was around everything [38:06] else you know and it just seems like that area is a lost area because I'll [38:12] I'll excuse me for a minute I'll even bring the development again when that [38:16] area was first stripped Strathmore had a development [38:20] officer I don't know whether they do anymore but I approached them at one [38:24] time because of the Dust when they were stripping that [38:28] we had to have our floors replaced cost us [38:32] $7,000 and that we provided pictures you couldn't see the back of your property [38:38] line you couldn't see 10 ft off your deck we approached the development [38:42] officer and he said what do you want me to do about it well my backgrounds in [38:46] the construction industry is a site superintendent and then [38:51] beyond what do you want what I want you to do about it shut them down [38:58] they have to live by their development permit and do and do what they say or [39:02] and they're not doing it and you know that's one of the concerns again and I'm [39:06] digressing here but it's it's so frustrating that that whole area seems [39:11] to be ignored if if I can jump in for a second [39:15] when it comes time to develop this new phase that Anthem is doing if if you're [39:20] finding again that dust is becoming a real issue we all have our numbers [39:25] posted on the town website you can call call us and we will talk to our [39:29] infrastructure team and our CAO as far as oh as far as improving that goes um [39:36] yes yes our CAO did look into it on the west side of town um the other thing I [39:41] can say is uh we have we have the staff sergeant of the RCMP coming in quarterly [39:47] to do reports if you keep an eye on um our meeting agendas maybe you can come [39:52] on the night of Staff Sergeant there we can also bring this forward to our staff [39:56] sergeant as far as the speed on Parklane drive for sure now that we're all aware [40:01] of the concerns again we can we can talk to our CAO and talk to the staff [40:06] sergeant regarding some possible plans for Park Lane [40:10] Drive um I have questions from the from the people have submitted some so I [40:15] thought we could maybe do one or two questions that have been submitted [40:18] beforehand and then I can go back to the audience if that's okay so if you can [40:22] remember your questions will come to you uh we had a question about water resp [40:28] restrictions and uh there we've had re we've received many questions and is [40:32] there an update on restrictions and when can we expect to be back to normal so I [40:36] want to thank all the residents for obviously helping to reduce our water [40:40] usage uh as as much as we did I'm really proud of Strathmore residents you [40:45] reduced your our Target was 25% reduction daily and uh we were very very [40:51] close to that we exceeded it on on several times um and so I was really [40:56] happy with that and like Calgary we're going to be we can ease our indoor water [41:01] restrictions we still need to continue as we ease back into normal water use [41:06] obviously you guys have done some of these things to space out your laundry [41:10] your showers if you can reduce shower time your dishwasher runs but indoor [41:15] usage is is back to to normal and um stage four outdoor water restrictions [41:21] are still currently in effect so I know a lot of people have been sharing on [41:25] Facebook different ways they've been using to collect rainwater I know my [41:30] wife and I have this is the first year in our 40 years here that we've been [41:34] putting bins under our e trough uh drain pipe and so I know that's spread [41:39] throughout the town this is the first time my wife and I have talked about [41:43] getting a rain barrel too as far as handw watering outdoor plants so very [41:47] proud and very pleased with Strathmore residents thank you for all your efforts [41:51] that you did and we're excited to announce that the lp pool in the town [41:55] aquatic center is open residents are welcome to enjoy the lap [41:59] pool and while the pool is reopening the hot tub water slide and kitty pool [42:05] remain closed and U over the last week the town [42:09] has been finishing some much needed repairs to the water slide Kitty pool [42:13] and hot tub and once these have all been completed and the two and the pool staff [42:18] receives satisfactory pool chemistry results from AHS the hot tub and kitty [42:24] pool will be open as well uh last night we had a a session in our public council [42:31] meeting on garage and Garden suites and the question is I've heard that there is [42:35] a possibility of putting an income Suite on my property is this permitted in [42:40] Strathmore and I can tell you this that last night council approved the town's [42:45] first garage and garden Suite bylaw now this is not a blanket zoning change or [42:51] anything like that it's just to allow people if they want to try to spend the [42:56] money to convert a garage or put a a unit above a garage there are strict [43:02] rules that must be followed it's not necessarily an easy process to get to [43:06] get to have one of these but again it's a way we thought that could help with [43:11] the housing crisis in this town it also could be a way for both young people who [43:16] have maybe bought a home with a detach garage on an alley that they could uh [43:22] help pay their mortgage down and also it could be a way to help seniors stay in [43:27] their property longer if they have the money to develop a garage Suite then [43:32] they can stay on their property longer if their health permits and they have [43:36] income coming in so I I just want to assure you that it's it's not going to [43:40] be a blanket thing where people are developing them right and left there are [43:44] very many rules and controls that have to be [43:47] followed um applications for guards garage and garden Suite permits will be [43:53] available through the town office and online in the coming weeks and the [43:57] difference between oh there was a question about the difference between [44:00] tiny homes and garage and garden Suite a garage Suite means a second accessory [44:06] dwelling unit on a parcel located above or adjacent to a garage structure so [44:13] that's a separate living space that's a garage Suite a garden Suite is a second [44:18] accessory dwelling unit on a parcel to be used as a separate accommodation that [44:23] is accessory to the principal building tiny home does not require another [44:29] primary building on the property and can and can stand alone we don't have any uh [44:34] tiny homes at this time we had a session a workshop last night on tiny homes [44:39] where we learned about it but I again I just want to reassure you that this [44:42] isn't going to be happening all over town it's not like Calgary did with [44:46] their their zoning change this is just something where if someone decides they [44:50] they want to invest some money in their garage and create a living unit that [44:55] there are steps and regulation ations and permitting would have to be followed [44:59] to do that so it allows for people to have income coming in on their property [45:04] but it also puts controls and and checkpoints as far as that goes wish I [45:10] jump in on this just a couple more points could also be a great way to get [45:13] your uh 25-year-old son out of the basement and into the backyard as a [45:17] young person I can say that um but one other one other concern I've heard [45:22] raised about uh garage and Garden suites is concerns around parking especially [45:27] street parking and I want to reassure people that uh within the bylaw that was [45:30] approved last the bylaw amendment that was approved last night there is a [45:34] requirement that for each Garden or garage Suite that is constructed an [45:38] additional parking space must be included so we are adding parking on top [45:43] of what is existing at that residence to hopefully try and mitigate Street you [45:48] know Street congestion and uh and Tra and traffic control issues so I want [45:53] want to just reassure people that we have heard about the concerns around [45:57] parking and we did we did include some measures within the bylaw amendment to [46:01] to address that thank you counselor uh Lang made so I can turn to the audience [46:08] if there's a question again and then we'll go back to the online questions I [46:11] think um Lloyd you had your hand up at one point as far as Parklane Drive [46:19] discussion I have a lot of discussion on Park LA sure I understand [46:27] Lloyd Penner I live right 98 Park Lane Drive and uh see all this activity [46:35] started up there a couple of days ago across from my house not a word [46:40] mentioned not a letter sent or a phone call from one of the counselors that was [46:48] expected I expected that because I have come to realize that Strathmore is no [46:54] longer the counil that it used to be the used to have a council where you could [46:59] contact the administrator and have a little chat [47:03] with him in the during the day or whatever it's all in the past and now [47:08] it's all just uh hush hush hush I I hate to be that negative sorry Lloyd I just [47:15] want to interject when you make a strong statement like that we all have our cell [47:20] numbers posted on the town of Strathmore website nobody's called me uh as far as [47:25] some of these strong concerns you have and as a council we're a governance body [47:30] we set rules regulations policies bylaws we don't necessarily know when a [47:36] subdivision is going to start construction until we see driving around [47:40] we see the you know the the pegs put that's fair thank you carry [47:45] on that's fair I just [47:51] uh not very long ago in fact I did have a letter in in in in my possession I [47:58] don't know whether I still have or not but I had a letter in my possession that [48:03] told me from years back that there would never be an [48:07] intersection coming on to Parkland Drive in front of my house all I can tell you [48:13] on that is um I don't think I don't think if it was a counselor that that [48:19] person should have given you that kind of strong statement and and promised [48:25] anything into the far future because there are things that change and [48:30] obviously developers change I think sorry I forgot your first name Pardon Me [48:35] Cam so like cam was saying the change went from 50 foot lots to 35 foot [48:42] [Music] um you know it sounds cliche but times [48:48] change and there are adjustments to things so I don't think one Council can [48:53] handcuff a next Council and say that'll never happen [48:57] because things can change we're a bigger Community now and as far as that [49:01] Connector Road all I can say as far as my knowledge is it was always going to [49:06] be a connector Road that's what I had been told that's what I had seen uh Mr [49:12] Mayor would could you tell me uh what what exactly is the plan there is there [49:18] light right turns and left turns coming entering on Park Lan well I can what's [49:24] the plan I can turn to our infrastructure people and they can tell [49:27] you a little more about what they know again because we're not involved in [49:32] everything going on as far as development we see we we're involved at [49:37] a higher level approving things but but we can definitely get that hopefully get [49:41] you some answers for that Jamie thank you no wor thank [49:52] you it will be a full intersection there so not just right in right out there be [49:56] a full intersection [50:03] there I assume there'll be a stop sign on the East West [50:11] Road and if the stop sign is on Park Lane Drive going east west that would [50:16] also help with speed reduction I would think [50:20] too coming out of the ranch well we can definitely look into that and see if it [50:25] might even be a threeway stop as far as traffic control and mediation we can [50:31] definitely look into [50:41] that well we'll definitely uh we'll definitely get an answer for you as far [50:45] as how that Connector Road is going to be linking and traffic movement onto [50:51] Park Lane Drive and the other concern is and [50:55] excuse me for interrupting um on the East End of Park Lane you have [51:01] a daycare right in the corner or a day home they're what're not anymore well [51:08] then did they finally sell their house no but they they dissolve their dayare [51:13] over a year ago no they didn't because cars were still parking out front right [51:17] on the corner it wasn't over a year ago secondly you got a taxi cab company [51:23] across the street with five vehicles park there his [51:28] employees park down the street and the entry uh into um on the right hand turn [51:35] where the park is that's where employees Park and you could have even cabs park [51:40] there for 3 4 weeks but you have another business [51:45] there as well so what do people do about that how are you going to provide access [51:50] and egis that goes [51:54] easily that's definitely a good question and um we can look into that as well our [52:00] staff will take note of that and we can see what we can come up with that and I [52:05] I know we have the taxi company uh coming as a delegation as we get closer [52:10] to passing uh an amended taxi bylaw and that could be something they're coming [52:15] as a delegation to a September meeting we could ask some questions of them [52:19] regarding that parking situation too and even that I'll go to the to the West End [52:24] I'm sorry again I I don't think going on but I'll go to the West End you had a [52:30] paint company there and a hairdressing company there I don't know whether the [52:33] hairdresser is still there or not but that's where the road Narrows by The [52:37] Pump Station the HS what are you going to do there if somebody parks on the [52:42] north side of the road you can't get by if there's a vehicle on the North side [52:46] and last night there's a truck and a trailer there you can't get [52:51] by so what are you going to do you're going to take somebody's house out or [52:55] take two or three [52:58] my my thought on this whole thing is is that the whole plan of Parklane Drive [53:05] was the concept originally I talked to people that have since passed away that [53:12] were in the business developing B houses in town and they said that it was a [53:19] there was a good plan and it was a it was [53:23] a it was not a thorough fair and never was planned for that and the council [53:29] came in later on and decided that they or councel or whatever I mean I don't [53:35] know how the workings go but they decided to go ahead and start building [53:40] and they built and with no plan in advance right now we don't have a plan [53:44] in advance but anyway I'll leave it at that [53:48] I'm quite disappointed in the way the plans took place here there's there's no [53:55] communication you can't can't see your concert you can phone them you can get [53:59] them on YouTube or something like that if you're you're a techie but if you're [54:03] a and if you don't have all those facilities at your disposal but Lloyd [54:08] you can phone me anytime and set up a meeting with me I'll I'll meet with you [54:12] anytime you want I I just haven't gotten calls from people to meet with me [54:16] privately so I'll definitely meet with I think everybody's frustrated that's my [54:20] thought great um I will offer something as far as Parklane Drive [54:27] being a a connector Road and a busy road I lived on Cambridge Glenn Drive for 16 [54:33] years I don't know if you know that street that's the one with the trees up [54:37] the middle it's near um it's near Sagewood it's the street that goes north [54:42] south and I I remember being at my staff room at Strathmore High where I taught [54:48] and I was complaining about the speed and the traffic on Cambridge Glenn Drive [54:53] and one of my teachers turned to me and he said you bought a house house on a [54:57] road that ends with drive it's not it's going to be a connector a Memorial Drive [55:03] in Calgary Centennial Drive is east west and it's a connector Park Lane [55:11] Drive Thomas Drive they're all connector roads that have a lot of traffic I don't [55:16] want the speed I totally agree that we have to watch the Speed but to me those [55:21] are connector roads they get you to George Freeman Trail or with Thomas [55:25] Drive they get you to Brent Boulevard and [55:30] 8817 but I again I I think in the early days if uh you know if people are saying [55:35] if if someone was saying that Park Lane Drive would never be a connector they [55:41] were wrong because it's it's an East West uh road and it it has the word [55:47] drive in it I don't mean to belittle this or or make fun of it it's just it [55:52] has the word drive in it and it is a connector it is a connector road to [55:56] George Freeman Trail councelor [56:01] Mitzner here I'll give you [56:05] mine the additional intersection may be your Saving Grace because people will go [56:11] directly past the ranch for direct access rather than go park Lan Drive if [56:16] there's another intersection to stop at that may help your how do you mean go [56:21] past the rench well at the four-way stop on Center Street you can go Direct [56:27] to the highway versus going out to the [56:32] east because as I've lived here my entire life we have enough four-way [56:36] stops and people try to eliminate stop stop stop so it it might help your [56:42] traffic situation right but you're also putting [56:45] 200 new residents in there and most residents now have a [56:50] minimum of two cars that's 400 Vehicles we can definitely get you information on [56:57] what's planned in that latest phase of ranch and that will include that [57:01] Connector Road to Park Lane and hopefully the buffer space that you're [57:05] looking for if that's of a help um Jamie how do you see that information coming [57:11] out to these [57:17] folks well if we can get everyone's name number contact information today I know [57:22] we've got a couple of inquiries through email already to our planning staff and [57:25] infrastru structure we can certainly uh get some responses to them we've already [57:29] sent I think a response to one individual um but I would like to [57:32] clarify that the subdivision design piece is not a council decision uh [57:38] subdivision design is approved by staff uh so between our planning staff [57:43] infrastructure staff obviously using operations group as well as Fire EMS [57:48] that's who approv subdivision so it's not a council decision uh Council [57:51] approves land use uh but that's kind of where their involvement in so I just [57:54] wanted to clarify that but we will take everyone's contact information that's [57:58] concerned about the future plans for ranch Phase 5 and and get some responses [58:01] to them and and Jamie uh cam had a question about the pathway system would [58:06] that be would that be shown in this same thing that is given to them as [58:10] information would it show the pathway system yes I can't recall I don't have [58:14] the plan in front of me I can't recall if there's a pathway planned or not or [58:16] what it looks like but typically the pathway would be shown as Mr uh through [58:20] through that subdivision approval so councelor Peterson thank you worship [58:26] and and I I think too if that um if that that pathway plan that you referenced if [58:30] you have an input into that that would be really useful as well well joining up [58:35] yeah for people to walk you have a pathway coming along the WID on the Park [58:40] Lane and it goes across the street but doesn't go anywhere else you know most [58:44] of the people that designed all this don't live in [58:48] strathore you know they haven't even walked or rode the pathways they have no [58:53] idea you know people don't know there is not a walkway [58:58] between the first house on Park Lane or right by the pum Pump Station to join up [59:06] with the uh with the path it's just gravel and weeds it's nothing else they [59:12] don't even know there's not a place to walk down there that you have to go on [59:16] the road in the winter it's it's an excellent point [59:19] because we we work really hard nobody's worked harder than our mayor to connect [59:23] all the Pathways in the community and that that isn't uh a place that really [59:27] needs to U attention coming up it definitely does I mean I invite anyone [59:32] out any one of you out to 153 Park Lane and I'll take you out back I mean we've [59:37] turned around and since day one actually my next door neighbor his name was [59:42] Trevor Spence and his father serving this Council years and years and years [59:45] ago yeah he and I we purchased saw we sawed back I told you United Paul Davis [59:52] who was a project manager that time we're going to squat in your land [59:55] because you're doing nothing to upkeep it so we [59:59] sorted so it's nice it's attractive you know aesthetically everything else but [1:00:05] it's usable so our next door neighbor they did it now if you you take a drive [1:00:10] down parking and look down there you'll see it's all nice and green that's cut [1:00:14] down people use it to play botche ball they use it to play volleyball [1:00:19] everything else because there's an area there there's nothing else around you [1:00:24] know we talk about and I'm digress and we talk about you know the speeding and [1:00:28] now there's a uh pedestrian crosswalk in by the lift [1:00:35] station B Stanford years ago we approached him because of it either put [1:00:40] speed bumps in or put a playground sign up because that Park is used by the [1:00:47] schools when it's in and Mr Mayor you might know that but the new school they [1:00:53] come walking down they go into the forest behind mind to use the whole [1:00:58] works but what's there like we've gone on 20 years trying to do this and [1:01:04] nothing's been done pardon me put a playground sign [1:01:09] pretty easy pardon me for interjecting this is [1:01:13] a seemed to be almost a plan like to keep delaying it and delaying it you [1:01:19] know so people forget but they don't forget and it just gets worse just like [1:01:25] suggesting that maybe and I and I appreciate your comment Mr Mrs [1:01:32] counselor I appreciate your your comment about you know uh if you uh if you make [1:01:40] it so awkward then they'll go a different direction that seems to be the [1:01:44] way the Strathmore is being designed it just falling over itself in the parking [1:01:51] lots and in the developments that's not just my [1:01:56] thoughts those are thoughts I gather from other people thank you well we'll [1:02:00] uh we'll try to get information to you if you leave contact information we will [1:02:04] get uh we will get word to you and and get a a plan so you can see what's [1:02:09] coming for that ranch area uh hopefully we can look at the buffer zone and see [1:02:13] what the pathway system is maybe there'll be I know there are other areas [1:02:17] where areas in the Strathmore Lakes area where we had a buffer zone created and a [1:02:23] green space and a pathway was put in connecting to the Strathmore Lake [1:02:26] pathway system so we can look at getting you all that information uh again I want [1:02:31] to encourage you my phone number is is on the town website you can call me you [1:02:35] can email me I I try to respond even if I'm watching TV in the evening and [1:02:41] someone sends me an email I try to respond as quickly as I can via return [1:02:46] email and I'll try to get you the information so we're not hiding we're [1:02:49] not running from you we we want to get you the information I just feel badly [1:02:54] that you might have been told some information many years ago that isn't [1:02:59] accurate or or couldn't be held up many years later because obviously the town [1:03:06] changes and you you can't necessarily speak that something will never happen [1:03:10] 20 years from now that's what concerns me as someone was giving that kind of [1:03:14] information out when they probably shouldn't have shouldn't have Mr M [1:03:18] excuse me but that's going on for 20 years CU all the people that back [1:03:22] onto uh uh card's Old Land yeah every one of them was told that [1:03:28] that land was owned by the WID and then Grant came well I'm sorry [1:03:34] I'm not disagreeing you I'm just by all the builders Realtors everything else no [1:03:38] I wasn't disagreeing with you I just feel badly that information landine was [1:03:42] owned by Grant klyber and his family okay right up to our property line okay [1:03:46] yeah I'm sorry about what information you got in the past um this Anthem [1:03:50] development is is uh we had lunch my CA our Cao had lunch with the owner last [1:03:58] year and then another meeting with them this spring and he was telling us their [1:04:01] next phase is ready to go anytime and that's what you're seeing now so I don't [1:04:06] know what the land was and I wasn't trying to disagree with you I just I [1:04:09] just feel badly that someone was telling this kind of stuff and again maybe the [1:04:13] land was sold to Anthem or to this company but we will try to get you all [1:04:19] that information as far as what you can what you can see that's coming for that [1:04:23] ranch phase right okay may I say one thing in closing and then I'll be quiet [1:04:29] sure when this development the new development when they wanted to add the [1:04:35] additional uh units by the soccer field okay and I spoke to that that was [1:04:44] defeated thank you very much for that but I also made a comment you have signs [1:04:49] on the out search of the city where quality of life is a way of life and in [1:04:54] that meeting uh where the proposal was put in front [1:04:57] of you all I heard was and I said that at that time all I heard was well we [1:05:03] have to do this for these people and we have to do this for these people and my [1:05:07] response to that is what are you going to do for the current residents of [1:05:10] Strathmore that help build this community everything else they have [1:05:15] property they looked after it they're proud of it everything else and it [1:05:20] doesn't matter whether it's Strathmore Calgary or whatever they walk into it [1:05:24] and they poop all over them for lack of a [1:05:28] better word excuse me but you know that just happens there's no consideration [1:05:34] for the present and current and past people new development comes in let's [1:05:40] give them the world to heck with them we already got them they're already paying [1:05:44] taxes well my hope is that when this when this plan comes out that you can [1:05:49] see you'll see that there are things that are being done to give you a buffer [1:05:54] zone or to have a pathway system or to give you answers on that Connector Road [1:05:59] and how you get on and off Park Lane Drive that's my hope so we're not [1:06:04] forgetting about you we're going to get you that information and then um and [1:06:09] then you can always come uh you can contact our town office and come as a [1:06:13] delegation if you'd like to speak more at a at another council meeting we'll [1:06:17] definitely hear you out and I know you you mentioned the fact that we defeated [1:06:22] things when we make decisions we're trying to make decision Visions based on [1:06:26] what we think is good for the the overall community so it it could be said [1:06:31] that quality of life is also we need to consider how do we get people into Home [1:06:36] Ownership how do we get young people into Families how do we get older people [1:06:40] who need to downsize and have a smaller home and property available that they [1:06:45] can afford so there's we have to wear all sorts of hats as far as how we tried [1:06:49] to U try to help people in in a variety of ways so quality of life also be [1:06:56] helping people attain home ownership too I I understand that and I don't dispute [1:07:00] that whatsoever um however the the attractive [1:07:04] point of Strathmore to a lot of people was a 50ft lots MH you get a larger lot [1:07:10] and you're not paying the prices in Calgary and everything else now you've [1:07:14] downsized it okay they're going to be cheaper okay but they're still going to [1:07:19] be Out Of Reach For A lot of people you know no matter what you do and what is [1:07:24] going to I mean I think you've done and we have a realtor here I think you've [1:07:29] done this town of the service by turning around and [1:07:34] approving uh 35- ft Lots in there you know I'm and and I'm going to talk [1:07:39] basically I mean we talked about okay do the [1:07:42] perimeter in 50ft lots and then the inside part doing your 35 ft Lots but [1:07:48] why are you affecting every house along on the north side of uh Park [1:07:53] L by because you go to the the other side you go to the South Side they're [1:07:58] all 50ft Lots they're not 35 I don't understand that and nobody [1:08:05] has been able to explain it to me as I said I'm not trying to digress or or [1:08:10] lengthen this this uh sit down out but there's a lot of questions that haven't [1:08:17] been answered and just ignored well I think that red us us as residents we to [1:08:23] have no idea what's going on none again I think that that rant plan [1:08:29] if we can get that to you you'll be able to see what's planned and I don't know [1:08:34] exactly what's going there I don't know if there are 50ft lots or if there are [1:08:38] lots for tow houses and then and then smaller ones off the top of my head I [1:08:43] haven't seen the latest plan in the last little while last one I saw they're all [1:08:47] approved for 35t Lots okay well we'll be able to get you some information [1:08:52] concerning that pleas okay um I'm wondering if we could go on to some of [1:08:57] the online questions that have also come in about other things in town can I just [1:09:01] follow up sure so I just want to say too that that I understand what you're [1:09:05] saying in terms of feeling um um pushed out pushed on I I live in an area of [1:09:13] Strathmore which was designated for density to build density and uh in the [1:09:18] downtown and it was a really really difficult transition and I and I we've [1:09:24] lived we've lived here for 40 years and so in that environment we watched uhu [1:09:28] all the old homes in our community be bulldozed and go into in um uh small [1:09:34] homes condominiums apartment buildings all around us and so one of the things I [1:09:39] guess that that I have had to come to um a piece with and I have is that it was [1:09:45] um it was a good decision by the council it wasn't one that I particularly liked [1:09:50] but what I have seen now in the last 15 years in in my UHA area is hordes of [1:09:57] young families that have moved in um who uh have affordable living in in um [1:10:04] apartment buildings and and uh side by sides and four plexes and six plexes [1:10:09] that are all around us and that uh the street is filled with parking now but [1:10:14] the other side of that is is that our downtown has been [1:10:17] revitalized and I can't deny that you know when I when I came on to councel [1:10:22] the downtown was a ghost town and that that's not the same today and that [1:10:27] downtown has been revitalized because of the actions of councils that predated me [1:10:31] and U and currently and so I didn't like it but I have come to make peace with it [1:10:38] and I I see the wisdom in it but it didn't benefit us at all I also think [1:10:45] that it benefited the schools in the area and and that in turn benefited the [1:10:50] rest of the community from a from a tax base and and Mr Panner is absolutely [1:10:54] correct this is not the same Community my husband was on Council when we had [1:10:59] 1,800 people and it was a time when you could call up the CAO or you could call [1:11:03] up the mayor and you could do what you needed to do in the time that you had to [1:11:06] do it and it was a much easier time and a much more um there was much more [1:11:11] capacity to be responsive but we're we have 15,000 people today and and the [1:11:18] rules around how councils are allowed to perform and how we're allowed to act are [1:11:23] different as well so want to say that from the perspective of council and the [1:11:29] and the five terms that my husband served on Council and the 10 years that [1:11:32] I've been here this Council has been one of the most um proactive councils that [1:11:38] I've seen in terms of trying to reach out to Residents and trying to do this [1:11:42] and and the mayor is absolutely correct you know because we have a strong [1:11:47] leadership team and because of the way the governance and operations are [1:11:50] structured we don't always know I didn't know about the um about the garbage [1:11:56] situation until Linda Ferguson called me at at and I was at a at a housing [1:12:01] meeting and called me at 10:00 at night to say that this had happened and that's [1:12:05] when I found out so we depend on you so Lloyd Panner has said you know it's [1:12:10] difficult to get a hold of people but Lloyd has my phone number and I don't [1:12:13] know that we've ever agreed on a single thing but we've had some pretty good [1:12:16] scraps over the years and I have certainly respected the information that [1:12:20] you've brought because I know that you represent a group of people in this [1:12:24] community that are really important and I don't want you to think that you're [1:12:27] not because you are you're you've been integral to the community you continue [1:12:31] to be integral to the community and you are heard and and I think that there [1:12:36] will be proof in that in the next over the next few days that you have been [1:12:39] heard and I just also while while we were waiting I texted my husband to say [1:12:45] where do we bring our waste because he had exactly the same issues as you he [1:12:49] didn't want a Teeter on a box to to dump the garbage and um one of the options is [1:12:54] and and may not be a satisfactory one but uh Waste Management still does take [1:12:59] garbage and um he said that uh we have a contract with them and he takes his his [1:13:04] uh recycling to waste management thank you thank you and even [1:13:10] though we're a town of 15,000 you can call me uh at any time and I'll I'll all [1:13:15] of us but for those of you who are at home if you have a pen or a paper I'll [1:13:19] give you my phone number It's Pat Fuel and if you want to jot it down here [1:13:23] that's great I'm not giving it to you Brandon because you're you're media [1:13:27] you're not to be truth no uh my number Pat fuel my number is [1:13:32] 403 324 [1:13:36] 3314 and you can call or text me and I'll try to get you [1:13:40] answers I think we have cards out in the front and we have a brochure of who's [1:13:45] who in the zoo yeah all right I do have some questions uh that are coming in for [1:13:52] other things that are important to Strathmore residents uh the the next one [1:13:56] is I've seen some groups getting sponsorship money from the town how is [1:14:00] that decided we have a community delegation night and it's scheduled for [1:14:05] October 23rd 2024 at 6:30 p.m. it's an opportunity for nonprofit Community [1:14:12] groups to come and request funding from the town having all requests come in [1:14:17] during one meeting allows for all Community groups interested in [1:14:21] requesting funding for the upcoming year an equal opportunity to speak and [1:14:26] present before Council and for Council to get all relevant information to make [1:14:31] informed decisions during our budget talks so that's October 23rd 6:30 p.m. [1:14:38] Council will hear the requests from the community and allocate funds that will [1:14:43] fit within the town of strathmore's budget and align with our strategic [1:14:48] priorities non for-profit groups can register for this uh Community Night by [1:14:54] filling out a delegation request form online by October 2nd [1:15:00] 2024 we also have many budget discussions that take place in the PA in [1:15:05] the fall as we prepare to approve the 2025 budget we have uh four meetings set [1:15:11] up for budget deliberations for the 2025 budget being scheduled and then the [1:15:17] approval is scheduled for December 4th of this year another important question [1:15:22] that's come online is dealing with doctors in town and I know this is a [1:15:27] problem all across Canada the question is it's so hard to find a doctor taking [1:15:33] patients in town when will we get new doctors and I can tell you this that in [1:15:38] May of this year Town Council approved a new grant program to help in bringing in [1:15:44] new doctors to town it's a pilot program for local medical offices with the hopes [1:15:51] of encouraging the practices to sponsor new Physicians so in other words it for [1:15:58] for a um a clinic to try to bring in a doctor from out of Canada or to bring in [1:16:04] an overseas doctor it's very costly to go through all the steps the paperwork [1:16:09] the different things to do so in may we approved the grant uh format where [1:16:15] different clinics could apply and then we help with the funding so that they [1:16:19] can try to attract and train and Mentor new doctors the town of Strathmore is [1:16:26] offering three grants up to $30,000 each to eligible Clinic [1:16:32] applicants on a first come first served basis to be eligible for the B Grant [1:16:39] applicants must have signed a sponsorship contract with cpsa before [1:16:45] applying agreeing to commit to sponsoring the internationally trained [1:16:49] doctor for up to six years including financially supporting the sponsored [1:16:55] physician throughout the registration process practice Readiness assessment [1:17:01] and agree to pay the grant back to the town should the doctor practice in the [1:17:07] town for less than five years so in other words we're ponying up some money [1:17:12] quite a bit of money three grants to help clinics attract International [1:17:17] doctors train them Mentor them sponsor them get them through all the [1:17:21] documentation and red tape processes and we hope that that will bring in three [1:17:27] we've got two already applications coming to us so we're hoping that this [1:17:32] financial help to a clinic will help us bring in three new doctors over the next [1:17:36] three years I have a question about our solar farm in town I would like an [1:17:42] update on the solar panel project costs and benefits to the town uh I just want [1:17:48] to tell you that the solar farm is owned and operated by a company called Capital [1:17:52] power the town of Strath more invested no money into bringing in the solar farm [1:17:58] here what we do is we lease the land we have a long-term lease with capital [1:18:04] power that brings in $180,000 a year and then on top of those [1:18:10] lease payments we also receive property taxes so the town benefits financially [1:18:16] about $400,000 a year for that land that is on [1:18:20] the south side of the Trans Canada there were no costs to the town um and as part [1:18:26] of being good stewards of the land Capital power has an agreement with the [1:18:30] ranching uh a ranch to bring in sheep to graze the land they have dogs that that [1:18:37] stay with the sheep and herd them and I believe they've also brought in pigs [1:18:41] recently too so that's helping to control the weeds the Clover the grasses [1:18:46] and U it's been a really good thing for our town because we never had to put any [1:18:53] investment in and uh I have a question on Utility [1:18:58] Billing we are seeing a charge on our electric and gas bill showing a payment [1:19:03] to the town of Strathmore I believe that this is the same charge that is in [1:19:08] dispute with the provincial government and it should be returned to homeowners [1:19:12] can you update on this and I can turn to our CAO Kevin scoel for [1:19:19] this so on your bill you'll see franchise fees and it's not related to [1:19:25] what's being done in Calgary and Edmonton the provincial government is [1:19:28] regulating it differently for those Metro areas so nothing has changed in in [1:19:35] Strath more so franchise fees um basically you know the gas and [1:19:43] the electric runs on Town land so the town when you put all those right of [1:19:49] ways together that's a big loss in taxation Revenue to a town or a city so [1:19:55] basically the utility companies are charged a lease uh which uh the [1:20:00] municipalities are permitted to do under provincial [1:20:02] legislation so the utility companies turn that into a a franchise fee so [1:20:08] basically it is a flow through cost um but the franchise fees are actually [1:20:15] cheaper than if the franchise fees were removed and then they become property [1:20:19] tax uh and the reason that works is everybody that has an electrical account [1:20:24] pays a franchise fee there's there's more utility customers than there is [1:20:29] taxable property so things like the courthouse the fish and wildlife office [1:20:33] they aren't taxed uh they're Exempted from tax but they have to pay the [1:20:37] franchise fee so if we're to reduce franchise fees the property taxes will [1:20:43] actually go up more so it's actually a bit of a a method of tax relief to [1:20:50] Residents thank you CAO scoel um I I have a question here about [1:20:56] uh this just came in could the town or CAO or staff please explain how the [1:21:04] decision to change garbage pickup was made and how any action has any action [1:21:11] been undertaken to assure ensure this doesn't happen again so can we just get [1:21:17] a little basic background on on how this first came about and I I just want to [1:21:22] point out it wasn't a decision like it wasn't it wasn't something written in [1:21:26] stone that had happened it was uh it was the early process of things um CAO [1:21:34] scoble so Lanes need maintaining over time um You probably all notice the [1:21:41] garbage trucks keep getting bigger uh as well when when you switch to automated [1:21:46] collection as we have the weight of the trucks increases even more because [1:21:49] you've got that lifting arm and all the equipment on it so it is harder on the [1:21:53] lanes um and the lanes need to be maintained [1:21:57] if they're not maintained they'll get to a point of failure where we have to come [1:22:00] in and rebuild them uh which is significantly more expensive so [1:22:05] administration had the best intent in mind to keep costs down um unfortunately [1:22:12] there wasn't the best consideration given to the impact on the residents so [1:22:18] we're not pursuing that but we still do need to maintain the lanes or we're [1:22:22] going to get into Lane rebuilds um which will be significantly more expensive and [1:22:26] you won't be able to use your lane for a long period of time so there are other [1:22:30] methods um that I've used in other communities we're going to look at those [1:22:35] we don't have final details yet but the way to think about it would be more like [1:22:38] a street sweeping of your Front Street we're going to have to come through from [1:22:42] time to time uh to maintain the lanes and that means grading them and putting [1:22:46] more gravel down so that the lanes don't keep failing um and so from time to time [1:22:52] you know probably you know once a year every two years we're going to have to [1:22:56] work out the details we're going to have to ask you to treat it like a sweet [1:22:58] streping so um you're going to we'll ask you to do things like get anything [1:23:03] that's stored or any vehicles in the lane out of there uh they're not [1:23:07] permitted to be there in the first place and it should be relatively not [1:23:12] impactful on most residents I drove most of the Lanes on Monday and and generally [1:23:16] residents are doing a very good job of of mean you know their part in the lanes [1:23:21] the biggest impact to most residents will be you know what whatever the [1:23:24] frequency is once a year or once every couple years We'll be asking you to put [1:23:28] your garbage cans back on your property inside your fence or whatever for a week [1:23:33] while we get in there with the graders to fix them up but we do need to do [1:23:37] something there uh or we'll all be paying a a significant amount of money [1:23:42] to rebuild those Lanes by maintaining them we can avoid the rebuilds so um we [1:23:47] do apologize um like I said the the best intent was there to provide the most [1:23:52] value to the taxpayers but I I don't think we gave due consideration to the [1:23:57] impacts of moving to front so there are other ways to do it but we're going to [1:24:00] need your help to do that thank you CAO scho uh the next [1:24:06] question has to do with Park maintenance I'm just wondering if Grace's Park is [1:24:10] going to get weeded this year you guys have a serious Ragweed Invasion underway [1:24:16] leaving the park not looking so great it's even growing in the middle of some [1:24:20] of the gravel paths now and someone is going to get someone is going to hurt [1:24:24] themselves in a gopher hole on the trail at some point as it's a safety hazard [1:24:30] any qu any comments we can have as far as Park maintenance uh in regards to [1:24:35] Gray's Park [1:24:39] Jamie bless you so I did pose this question to our operations manager and [1:24:44] um Park staff um they've just weeded it actually just yesterday um and they'll [1:24:50] do an inspection on the pathway to make sure it's it is safe for residents um um [1:24:55] broadly speaking residents should also know that Grace Park is is an [1:24:59] environmental Reserve so it's meant to be mostly natural uh of course with [1:25:03] pathways through there we have to maintain those as well but um our Park [1:25:07] staff is on top of it so thank [1:25:12] you thank you Jamie uh we have a question about the Wheatland housing [1:25:17] management board and the hospice I can tell you that last night we approved a [1:25:22] letter of support for the project so uh we have still uh council is still behind [1:25:29] the project we've had different initiatives voted on and approved we've [1:25:33] uh earmarked land on the east side of of kinsman Park it's not it's never really [1:25:39] been Park land but it's uh it's on the eastern border we have uh committed to [1:25:47] providing that land as part of the town's contribution to the project and [1:25:52] we're waiting to see how the hous management body uh will do with their [1:25:56] next round of uh negotiations and approvals with the province but last [1:26:01] night we did approve a letter of support I have a question about waste uh [1:26:06] oh sorry yeah question about waste collection and recycling uh person has [1:26:11] asked why why wasn't my garbage collected and these are some of the [1:26:15] reasons that a person's garbage may not be collected carts were not carts may [1:26:21] not have been put out on time collection of carts happens between 7:00 [1:26:27] a.m. and 1: p.m. as per our bylaw but it's typically completed by 5: PM if [1:26:33] your garbage was missed at the fault of our waste collection Services the truck [1:26:38] can return the next operating day sometimes a cart may not been may not [1:26:43] have been collected because there's unsuitable material in the cart and if [1:26:47] that happens a tag is left to inform the resident and sometimes the uh the the [1:26:54] carts are placed too close to an object to another object and again tags are [1:26:59] left to educate and to advise the resident as far as why that cart was not [1:27:04] picked up there's a question about why is there not a consistent time for [1:27:09] garbage collection collection times can vary for multiple reasons driver and [1:27:15] Equipment issues route changes even weather can affect that cart collection [1:27:20] again occurs between 7:00 a.m. and 1: p.m. again it's typically collected by [1:27:25] 5:00 p.m. if your carts are out by 7:00 a.m. on your collection day they should [1:27:31] be collected uh flipping to the end of my [1:27:36] questions online when will the town move to [1:27:40] blueart curbside collection and for those people who aren't in the know or [1:27:46] don't don't know that blue cart is recyclables with the new epr which is [1:27:52] extended producer respons ability in the final stages with provin with the [1:27:57] province the town is working with the Alberta recycling Management Authority [1:28:02] on what would be acceptable in blue carts versus what would be considered to [1:28:07] go to landfill we are expecting a roll out of some version in [1:28:13] 2025 so we're hoping that we will be moving to some blue cart recycle pickups [1:28:20] in 2025 but it'll come down to the discussions we have to find out exactly [1:28:25] what's acceptable in the carts and we're close to the end but if [1:28:31] anybody has a question sure and if you could just state your name for the [1:28:35] people watching at home hi I'm Bev Bell we are new residents to Strathmore uh [1:28:42] and we love it we're very happy to be here um one of the the interesting [1:28:47] things that have happened from people coming to visit us we moved in from [1:28:51] Calgary was that they couldn't see the street signs [1:28:54] because they're so faint um Centennial and Thomas is a good [1:29:00] example of that I did uh question that I did send in through the the website and [1:29:06] I was told that that's on the you know it's regularly handled through um you [1:29:11] know an ongoing plan to replace street signs when they need it but I I I'm [1:29:16] wondering when do they need it you know when's the point where you go oh I I put [1:29:21] my light on I I looked at it so people have had a hard time finding their way [1:29:26] in to our place and I guess the other part is I love the comment about um the [1:29:32] revitalization of the downtown because I think that's really important to a [1:29:36] community like Strathmore uh and I'd love to see signage that indicates the [1:29:41] points of interest in town um you know and I the example I would give was uh [1:29:47] would be High River even has a little sign going in that says here's where the [1:29:52] Heartland stage or Heartland and settis uh here's where the campsite is there's [1:29:57] you know we could have where is the rodeo um and where can people go because [1:30:01] if they're coming in uh for any reason or if they're they're going to the you [1:30:06] know to see the Chucks or lots of tournaments going on baseball [1:30:10] tournaments it'd be great if they had some points of interest that would draw [1:30:13] them into the town as well thank you uh councelor Mitzner has been a real push [1:30:20] on wayfaring signs so it's on our radar and hopefully we can get some of those [1:30:25] done councelor M did you want to speak on [1:30:36] that if I can answer that we do have new maps front counter that would just [1:30:40] produce they're perfect for visitors they're great idea Cheryl meets check [1:30:44] with Cheryl from counter we've got great new maps thank you [1:30:48] last they came probably l so we'll be we'll be looking into to [1:30:54] uh Wayfair sign wayfaring signage as far as uh getting people around and as far [1:30:59] as street signs Jamie could you speak to how we replace and how maybe if if you [1:31:06] uh you've already mentioned Centennial and Thomas as being two signs that could [1:31:11] be looked at we can make note of that yeah so if you submitted uh you said you [1:31:15] submitted a CCF online C sorry I think that's what it that's what we call it [1:31:21] but okay great yeah citizen in communication form sorry about the [1:31:25] acronyms but uh so if you've submitted that um uh like like you would have [1:31:30] heard we do have a kind of a program that looks at that but I'll I'll have [1:31:33] staff have a closer look at those signs spe specifically if they're uh not [1:31:37] legible then then we'll we'll kind of prioritize those ones [1:31:42] so and just before I go on how how long have you lived in strore [1:31:47] now when when was it that you moved we moved here in the fall oh well welcome [1:31:51] to Strathmore again you can get me on my cell phone and if you want to get me on [1:31:56] email that's on the town website or it's pat. fuel [1:32:01] store.ca so uh feel free to reach out anytime um we had a question that just [1:32:07] came in online that wants to know how much will my property taxes be impacted [1:32:15] by a potential new Senior Lodge and I'll turn to Deputy sorry you're not a deputy [1:32:23] counselor Peterson you were Deputy a long time [1:32:27] ago so this is um this is actually a a complex question [1:32:33] but it's it's a pretty um straightforward one as well so first of [1:32:39] all I want to say that the latest numbers from the consultants for the [1:32:43] Wheatland housing management body and the Wheatland and area Hospice Society [1:32:48] um planning that has been ongoing for for the last three years intensively [1:32:53] uh has just come out on April the 18th they came out with the last um the last [1:32:58] set of numbers so uh and even those are still uh being adjusted in real time for [1:33:05] for a variety of reasons costs of of equipment maintenance uh construction [1:33:09] costs of all of those things the best way that I can explain this is to [1:33:15] explain it through through what it through what it [1:33:18] will look like on your 2024 um tax bill and and I can do that [1:33:27] by talking about my tax bill and so when we get our tax Assessments in the mail [1:33:32] or online there are two lines for requisitions on that I think just two [1:33:37] right two there's one for schools and there's one for seniors housing and so [1:33:43] on on my and I always look at mine and I I figure it out according to how much I [1:33:49] pay uh per year per $100,000 of of uh tax value on on the land that where we [1:33:55] live or the the house where we live actually and um and then how I just [1:34:01] break it down how much I pay uh per month and So currently I pay [1:34:09] $921 cents per year per $100,000 of value on the property where we live [1:34:15] which is a below average property in the downtown South and so um if I break that [1:34:22] down I I pay uh approximately round it up to $20 a year for for for um for the [1:34:30] current my current requisition on the lodge and and uh $2 a month so if we [1:34:38] were to build a new Lodge and keep our existing Lodge [1:34:42] open and we would effectively double that cost so the mortgage on the new [1:34:49] building will be $700,000 the approximate cost to R the [1:34:54] existing Lodge is about $700,000 and so that would double that [1:34:59] cost so I'd be paying $8 a month on on my tax bill I don't I don't uh um the [1:35:07] track the importance of that and how much it is but I believe in it so [1:35:11] passionately that it's money that that uh that I am prepared to pay and um and [1:35:17] uh certainly seniors in this community and people who have seniors in their [1:35:21] lives have have echoed that uh clearly um so uh compared to so I so like I said [1:35:29] I I pay I pay I would pay currently um about double the amount I [1:35:36] currently pay so about $20 per $100,000 of of value on the home where I live now [1:35:42] for senior housing but I pay about $280 for school taxes and I I value them [1:35:51] both the same but I just want you know looking after seniors has not been [1:35:56] extraordinary when you think about the contribution that they brought to the [1:35:59] community and the terrible need so I just want to also say two more things [1:36:05] first of all most people know that there is a private for-profit company coming [1:36:09] into town that's going to build a lodge they're called Shasta they're building [1:36:13] on the existing lands by the hospital and they are not a lodge like Wheatland [1:36:18] Lodge they are a um health-based if you like uh facility for seniors they'll [1:36:25] have capacity for sl3 and SL 4D which comprises dementia care they will also [1:36:33] have six hospice beds um like the Alberta healthc Care [1:36:38] Hospice beds and they'll be run under that ospice that part of that building [1:36:43] the the dementia care and the hospice will be run under the parameters of [1:36:47] Alberta Healthcare which means that those beds can be accessed by anyone um [1:36:52] Alberta Healthcare has a very defin way how they determine who gets what bed [1:36:56] where and when and so it's very much needed it's very much needed in our [1:37:01] community we've estimated that in the next 20 years we need 400 beds um just [1:37:06] on the affordable scale for our senior population so so that means that we need [1:37:14] Sagewood age care we need this new Shasta private for-profit that's coming [1:37:19] in we need the existing Lodge and we need the lodge we're building and we'll [1:37:23] still will be short beds so we need them all the last thing I want to say is that [1:37:27] not built into that equation uh Wheatland and area Hospice Society have [1:37:32] raised 8.1 or sorry $4.1 million do in eight years a local community group has [1:37:39] raised $4.1 million it takes my breath away people sitting in the front row [1:37:44] here have been instrumental in in building that that hospice they now have [1:37:49] enough money they've made enough money to build the capital side of that [1:37:53] project they want to join the hospice to the lodge to be able to do wraparound [1:37:57] care and to make sure that they can maximize operation costs by having the [1:38:02] buildings together at this point in time we don't know how the operations of that [1:38:07] building will be funded if we do fund it ourselves which is one of the [1:38:14] possibilities we estimate that it'll cost about $42 per per rate payer per [1:38:19] taxpayer a year uh or 42 to 48 I believe is the maximum end of that Dr mcney Who [1:38:26] has um uh LED this project for several several years since it's Inception has [1:38:32] always used the term uh for the cost of a of an extra-large Pizza uh we can [1:38:37] operationalize our own hospice she talks about the difference between the hospice [1:38:41] and the new Shasta facility the new Shasta facility she said is a is like [1:38:45] the room at the end of a hall in a hospital it's not the wraparound [1:38:49] Services it is the dream of Wheatland and area Hospice Society that has been [1:38:54] embraced by this entire Community the entire community of the county of [1:38:57] Wheatland so when I talk to you about uh um that increase on that times two [1:39:04] increase at 100% on my tax bill going from from uh from the um $10 or 9921 per [1:39:12] 100,000 to to 20 um to the hospice would again double that but um it is a a [1:39:21] pretty straightforward number there is another option and AHS has started to [1:39:26] fund other uh agencies like Wheatland and Area Hospital society and funding [1:39:31] them um anywhere from 50 to 75% uh of their operations and that is a [1:39:38] a great hope going forward but we're unsure of it at this time so we hope in [1:39:43] the very near future by this fall in fact that um that the Wheatland housing [1:39:48] management body will have a document that will be uh widely uh uh published [1:39:54] in newspapers and online and and uh and in handouts and and media Outlets that [1:40:00] will give you all the uh most updated numbers and it'll also give you that tax [1:40:05] calculator so you'll be able to go in there and just plug in the numbers and [1:40:10] and it will be able to tell you exactly how much you'll pay per year per month [1:40:15] on those current numbers and so I don't know mayor [1:40:20] there's any other thing I can add no I would just add that strathore Town [1:40:27] Council has approved various um various initiatives and and various [1:40:34] resolutions to support the lodge so uh my qu I guess my question or my [1:40:40] statement is if not now when and if if we put it off we all know what inflation [1:40:47] does the cost of that new Lodge will be incredibly high so we know there's [1:40:53] a waiting list on the current Lodge and we know that we have a large number I [1:40:58] think I'm at the tail end of the baby boom generation but we know that there's [1:41:02] a baby boom population that's going to be large and they they definitely could [1:41:08] need uh group senior care and if we don't if we don't start moving to [1:41:13] planning for that and we're going to be left looking at something far more [1:41:18] expensive so I'm fully behind this I want to support our seniors as well and [1:41:22] I'm based Bally one of the seniors now so I don't mean to be uh biased but I've [1:41:28] always felt we have to look after our seniors in stth one and I think that [1:41:33] brings us to a conclusion unless someone has another question in our [1:41:38] audience um I want to thank you all for being here our staff who are here our [1:41:43] CAO senior leadership team thank you for being a part of it our residents here [1:41:48] and if you're at home hopefully you got some questions answered as well and [1:41:53] again you have our contact information that could be found on the town website [1:41:57] and you can reach out at any time that's convenient for you we'll try to get [1:42:02] answers to you as soon as we can thank you again for being part of this and uh [1:42:06] I won't see you maybe some of you so have a great summer