1 00:00:51,860 --> 00:00:55,180 Mike Tess, council chambers, April 25th. 2 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,820 Mike Tess, council chambers, April 25th. 3 00:01:10,770 --> 00:01:13,110 Mike Tess, council chambers, April 25th. 4 00:13:02,010 --> 00:13:08,850 Hey, good morning. I'll call the council meeting, regular schedule council meeting for April 25th to order. 5 00:13:11,140 --> 00:13:23,080 You know, something in the, I'm going to rely on everybody's help here today. From the outside, calm, cool, collective. On the inside, I must whirl in traffic, so bear with me. 6 00:13:26,060 --> 00:13:30,940 I'm going to ask you out the get go in case of a tie we've got six of us up here, what happens today? 7 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,640 Thank you, through Deputy Mayor Gerwin, and the event of a tie, a motion is lost. 8 00:13:36,680 --> 00:13:38,280 In case of a tie it's passed, okay? 9 00:13:38,560 --> 00:13:39,320 No loss. 10 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:41,280 Oh, okay. 11 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,220 I'm turning up my volume, I already got technical difficulties here. 12 00:13:45,980 --> 00:13:46,400 Thank you. 13 00:13:47,420 --> 00:14:07,280 I know something before we start the meeting, I'm going to do the county land acknowledgement that Sturgeon County recognizes that we're meeting on Treaty 6 territory, their traditional homelands of the Alexander and First Michelle nations, as well as Matys nations of Alberta number 4. 14 00:14:08,150 --> 00:14:14,440 We're all treaty people and we love and cherish this place we call home and the land that provides for us. 15 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,620 a place where our families, friends, and other relatives live and grow. 16 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:25,100 We commit ourselves to becoming better, treaty people so that this place, 17 00:14:25,820 --> 00:14:31,640 and those we love continue to thrive as long as the sun shines, the grass grows, and the river flows. 18 00:14:33,380 --> 00:14:38,260 And Mr. Sopco, can we carry on with the first, no, no, no. 19 00:14:38,260 --> 00:14:42,100 Now before I'm looking, I'm looking for a motion 20 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:47,280 for the April 25th regular council meeting to 21 00:14:48,260 --> 00:14:51,580 Yeah, adoption of the agenda. Yeah, and 22 00:14:52,180 --> 00:14:54,760 Councillor Komo has accepted that and 23 00:14:56,020 --> 00:14:57,240 then we'll move on to the 24 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,140 You know, something, it'd be nice if all those in favor would vote. 25 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:33,640 Okay, thank you. And we'll move on to item 3.1, the April 11th, regular council meeting. I've already read the minutes, and thank you. Councilor Thoms is, and we're all going to vote on that now. All those in favor of accepting that. Thank you. Okay, further on, Mr. Sobko, we are still going to do items 26 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:38,880 Item 6.1. Yes, through you, Deputy Mayor Durwin, the first item is item 6.1. 27 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:44,960 The request for property tax cancellation due to fire loss for tax roll 3716005. 28 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,940 And Ms. Duquette will be presenting this item. 29 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:49,780 Thank you. 30 00:15:50,460 --> 00:15:55,920 Good morning, Deputy Mayor Durwin and Council and members of the public with me today is actually Ms. Valerie Lawson. 31 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:57,880 And she's going to take us through this request for decision. 32 00:16:05,950 --> 00:16:07,970 Good morning, Council and members of the public. 33 00:16:07,970 --> 00:16:12,230 My name is Valerie Lossin and I'm the Senior Program Lead for Treasury and Financial Planning. 34 00:16:12,570 --> 00:16:14,410 Valerie, you might want to get a little closer to the microphone. 35 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:30,140 We are bringing forward a request for decision to refund a portion of 2022 property taxes in the amount of $2,074 and $84 cents for tax roll 3716005. 36 00:16:30,860 --> 00:16:37,480 On June 30th, 2022, a fire incident occurred that destroyed the residents' primary dwelling and 37 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,680 for significantly reduce the assessment value of the property. 38 00:16:41,500 --> 00:16:47,680 On July 11th, upon being notified of the fire by protective services, assessment services investigated, 39 00:16:50,450 --> 00:16:53,330 investigated the damage and the property. 40 00:16:53,890 --> 00:17:01,970 This resulted in a reduction in assessment value from approximately $1 million down to a postfire assessment of 376,000. 41 00:17:02,750 --> 00:17:06,810 The property owner has submitted a request to have 2022 property taxes 42 00:17:06,810 --> 00:17:09,590 is adjusted based on the reduced value of the property. 43 00:17:10,410 --> 00:17:16,410 In accordance with Sturgeon County's municipal property tax cancellation, reduction, refund, and deferral policy, 44 00:17:16,830 --> 00:17:20,170 as well as past practices of considering similar situations. 45 00:17:20,770 --> 00:17:26,690 Administration is recommending that $2,074 and $84 be refunded to the property owner. 46 00:17:27,510 --> 00:17:32,970 This represents the pro-rated portion of the 2022 tax levy based on the revised property value. 47 00:17:33,670 --> 00:17:40,790 After today's meeting, administration will notify the property owner of Council's decision, and with that we'd be happy to take any questions. 48 00:17:44,360 --> 00:17:47,560 Thank you very much for the presentation. Any questions from Council? 49 00:17:50,540 --> 00:17:51,680 None at all, okay then. 50 00:17:52,540 --> 00:17:54,000 There we go. Councilor Stang. 51 00:17:55,220 --> 00:18:05,060 Thank you, through the chair. That Council refund the 2022 property taxes in the amount of $2,074.84 for tax rule 371, 6005. 52 00:18:05,060 --> 00:18:11,560 If I could speak to that, it's a truly unfortunate incident that we have to deal with that. 53 00:18:11,660 --> 00:18:13,960 But I will wholeheartedly support this. 54 00:18:17,670 --> 00:18:18,470 Councillor Thomms. 55 00:18:19,670 --> 00:18:20,850 Thanks, three, Mr. Chair. 56 00:18:20,990 --> 00:18:22,130 I'm definitely going to support this as well. 57 00:18:22,230 --> 00:18:25,790 I'm glad we have the opportunity to be able to readjust things on compassionate grounds when 58 00:18:25,790 --> 00:18:28,310 something is traumatizing as a fire occurs for somebody. 59 00:18:28,450 --> 00:18:33,290 So absolutely going to support this and glad that in the past, as well as hopefully going forward, 60 00:18:33,490 --> 00:18:36,550 we have the ability to contemplate these life circumstances. 61 00:18:37,550 --> 00:18:43,750 I'm seeing no other questions then, I'll call the question, all those in favor. 62 00:18:45,740 --> 00:18:48,840 And that looks like a unanimous decision, thank you very much. 63 00:18:51,460 --> 00:18:53,900 Okay, we'll move on to item 6.3, 64 00:18:56,380 --> 00:18:58,140 but that's okay with you, Mr. Southgo. 65 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:03,620 Yes, thank you, Deputy Mayor Durwin, and I believe Ms. McKinnis will be presenting this item. 66 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,840 Good morning, Deputy Mayor Durwin and members of Council. 67 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,880 For the record, I am Bonnie McGinnis, and I'm the manager of planning and development services. 68 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:27,460 Item 6.1 is in reference to an application to redistrict lands from A.G.A. 69 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:32,040 Agriculture to R.V.S. Recreation Vehicle Storage. 70 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,540 The recommendation is that council approve first reading and permit the application 71 00:19:36,540 --> 00:19:41,860 to proceed to public hearing to allow the applicant to present and receive feedback from 72 00:19:41,860 --> 00:19:43,920 the public and council on the proposal. 73 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:49,120 Jonathan Hems Kirk joins me here this morning and will present this item for council's 74 00:19:49,120 --> 00:19:51,400 consideration after which we are available 75 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,520 to answer any questions from Council. 76 00:19:56,460 --> 00:19:56,720 Perfect. 77 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:58,060 Thank you very much, Bonnie. 78 00:19:58,220 --> 00:20:00,700 I'm just gonna get my presentation shared up here 79 00:20:00,700 --> 00:20:01,660 on the screen for everyone. 80 00:20:07,100 --> 00:20:08,480 Okay, we should be good to go. 81 00:20:08,580 --> 00:20:09,480 Well, good morning, everyone. 82 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,100 For the record, my name is Jonathan, 83 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:12,920 he's planning and subdivision officer 84 00:20:16,170 --> 00:20:18,550 treating a bylaw 1627-23, 85 00:20:18,730 --> 00:20:21,070 which is an amendment to our land use bylaw. 86 00:20:23,500 --> 00:20:24,980 So the parcel we're looking at today 87 00:20:24,980 --> 00:20:26,580 is fairly southern in the county. 88 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,340 It's located directly south of Highway 37. 89 00:20:29,340 --> 00:20:32,780 and just a few kilometers to the east of Highway 2. 90 00:20:36,570 --> 00:20:38,670 Looking at some local context for this one, 91 00:20:38,770 --> 00:20:40,990 we can see our subject parcel that is highlighted 92 00:20:40,990 --> 00:20:44,750 in yellow that parcels within our agricultural district 93 00:20:44,750 --> 00:20:45,370 currently. 94 00:20:46,110 --> 00:20:48,210 Most of the parcels in the immediate vicinity 95 00:20:48,210 --> 00:20:49,890 that you can see here on your screen 96 00:20:49,890 --> 00:20:52,750 also share that same agricultural designation 97 00:20:53,140 --> 00:20:54,350 with a few exceptions. 98 00:20:54,730 --> 00:20:57,410 If we go a little bit north and east of Highway 37, 99 00:20:57,410 --> 00:21:01,450 there is a one small existing RV storage operation 100 00:21:01,450 --> 00:21:04,610 and a small general industrial parcel as well. 101 00:21:04,990 --> 00:21:06,910 But for the most part, everything we're seeing here 102 00:21:06,910 --> 00:21:08,290 in the area is egg. 103 00:21:11,180 --> 00:21:13,440 Looking at the parcel itself, size wise, 104 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,220 it's roughly 68 and a half acres. 105 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,300 It is the east half of this quarter section. 106 00:21:18,700 --> 00:21:21,240 There's been one existing parcel subdivided out there 107 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:22,780 in the northeast portion. 108 00:21:23,540 --> 00:21:26,500 There is a homestead, roughly halfway down the parcel. 109 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,840 It's accessed via a direct approach from Highway 37. 110 00:21:30,620 --> 00:21:31,840 Further to the south of that, 111 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:37,480 we have an existing agricultural operation, and in the far northwest corner we have a small 112 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:43,740 piece of land that's a little bit isolated from the remainder of the lot, which is the subject 113 00:21:43,740 --> 00:21:49,160 of this application. So the applicants have come forward and they are proposing, rather, 114 00:21:49,700 --> 00:21:55,540 to redistrict a portion of the lot, roughly nine and a half acres, from its current agricultural 115 00:21:55,540 --> 00:22:00,400 cultural district to our RVS recreational vehicle storage district. 116 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:05,500 This would create split zoning in the parcel, as the remainder would remain agricultural, 117 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,860 continue to be cultivated, but this portion would become RV storage. 118 00:22:10,260 --> 00:22:15,400 And the intent is to operate a business at that area, access from Highway 37. 119 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,620 And that would be a permitted use within this district. 120 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,840 In the application, it was outlined that in the opinion of our landowner, 121 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:33,160 that portion there highlighted in red that would be redistricted is isolated from the remainder of the parcel and would make a good position for Arby storage to take place. 122 00:22:36,110 --> 00:22:42,910 Moving on to some of the details of the application. The proposal we have here is for a smaller scale Arby storage operation. 123 00:22:43,250 --> 00:22:51,870 45 units is what they are applying for. They have outlined some of the grading changes in their plans that they would undertake if successfully redistricted. 124 00:22:51,870 --> 00:22:58,190 They've also highlighted a six foot perimeter fence around the area in addition to gated 125 00:22:58,190 --> 00:23:03,090 entries, solar lighting and security cameras to provide assurance to its users. 126 00:23:03,910 --> 00:23:08,270 And lastly, noting that drainage in the area would be going to the north and to the east 127 00:23:08,270 --> 00:23:12,110 through existing culverts and approaches towards the Highway 37 ditch. 128 00:23:13,670 --> 00:23:18,570 Alberta Transportation and Economic Corridors has issued a roadside development permit for 129 00:23:18,570 --> 00:23:21,850 this application for the 45-unit business. 130 00:23:23,870 --> 00:23:28,450 As normal practice, we refer it out to several members of administration and a few comments 131 00:23:28,450 --> 00:23:29,030 to share. 132 00:23:29,670 --> 00:23:34,390 With respect to the application, any future development permit may require some further 133 00:23:34,390 --> 00:23:38,230 details in accordance with general municipal servicing standards. 134 00:23:39,250 --> 00:23:44,130 And the second comment we received is that at a size of 9 and a half acres and a proposal 135 00:23:44,130 --> 00:23:51,730 of only 45 units, there is potential and capacity on these lands for more RB storage to occur, 136 00:23:52,250 --> 00:23:58,230 we could have upwards of 200 units or so that could be allowable in this area, of course, 137 00:23:58,230 --> 00:24:02,870 that would be subject to a new roadside development permit in the future and a new development permit 138 00:24:02,870 --> 00:24:06,530 with the county, but something for consideration given the parcel size. 139 00:24:12,170 --> 00:24:13,530 So lastly, for some relevant 140 00:24:13,530 --> 00:24:18,190 policy and legislation, there is no area structure plan for this portion of the county and so we turn 141 00:24:18,190 --> 00:24:22,490 into our municipal development plan to provide some policy direction and regulation. 142 00:24:23,370 --> 00:24:26,930 Starting first with the neighborhood, this parcel is right on the boundary of a few 143 00:24:26,930 --> 00:24:30,150 of our different neighborhoods in the county, but primarily is located within neighborhood 144 00:24:30,150 --> 00:24:34,630 C, which purpose is to position Sturgeon County as an agricultural leader. 145 00:24:35,410 --> 00:24:39,630 With respect to policy, there's a few here on the screen I'll just quickly touch on, starting 146 00:24:39,630 --> 00:24:45,870 with 5.2.4, which identifies that the county should collaborate with current and future business 147 00:24:45,870 --> 00:24:49,890 owners for opportunities for them to exist here in the county, which we are doing by taking 148 00:24:49,890 --> 00:24:51,770 them through this redistricting process. 149 00:24:52,650 --> 00:24:58,810 5.4.9 ensures that existing infrastructure and road corridors are able to accommodate 150 00:24:58,810 --> 00:25:01,530 the proposed use and potential proposed growth. 151 00:25:02,330 --> 00:25:07,050 In this regard, a roadside development permit has been issued, access would be done directly 152 00:25:07,050 --> 00:25:08,270 via Highway 37. 153 00:25:09,130 --> 00:25:17,130 And lastly, 5.5.14, notes that Council may consider this kind of development on a case-by-case 154 00:25:17,130 --> 00:25:22,250 basis given that several criteria are met. In this case for the application, we don't have any 155 00:25:22,250 --> 00:25:27,750 subdivision proposed. There are no service upgrades required. And lastly, we would need to show that 156 00:25:27,750 --> 00:25:32,250 there is a demonstrated support from the local community, which we would look to achieve through a 157 00:25:32,250 --> 00:25:33,310 future public hearing. 158 00:25:35,580 --> 00:25:38,720 So with that administration would recommend that Council give first reading to 159 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:44,700 by law 16, 27, 23, allowing it to proceed to that public hearing stage to hear feedback 160 00:25:44,700 --> 00:25:46,760 from any and all affected parties. 161 00:25:47,140 --> 00:25:50,620 That will conclude my presentation and myself and the rest of our GM are happy to answer 162 00:25:50,620 --> 00:25:51,060 any questions. 163 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:51,560 Thank you. 164 00:25:52,500 --> 00:25:53,640 Thank you for that report. 165 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,320 A lot more detailed than normally that come before us. 166 00:25:56,900 --> 00:26:00,240 I see the local councillor would like to ask a couple questions. 167 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,140 And thanks to you, Mr. Chair. 168 00:26:03,140 --> 00:26:08,720 So I have a couple of questions. Number one, how does this proposal align with ramp? 169 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:14,400 First of all, how have we looked at that? And secondly, can you tell me how many RV parks we currently have in the county? 170 00:26:14,900 --> 00:26:21,480 And how many specifically within Division 1 and 2 and maybe just off Highway 37 in that area, please? 171 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:30,060 Through Deputy Mayor Durwin to Councillor Tombs with regards to compliance with ramp. 172 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:38,620 The, these lands are primary agricultural lands, but, but ramp doesn't really speak to RV 173 00:26:38,620 --> 00:26:39,000 storage. 174 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:48,960 It speaks more to sort of the particular uses that, that would be appropriate and some 175 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,140 of these diversified uses are appropriate under, under ramp. 176 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:58,080 So I guess there would be some consideration that this might not be considered agriculture, 177 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,240 culture, so there may be some consideration in that regard. 178 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:02,200 Go 179 00:27:07,410 --> 00:27:07,910 ahead, Travis. 180 00:27:08,430 --> 00:27:09,230 I'm Mr. Peter. 181 00:27:09,770 --> 00:27:13,970 And thank you and through the chair, this is to you a supplement on that. 182 00:27:14,850 --> 00:27:21,790 Something that the county is pursuing in the months to come is we are looking at the primate and 183 00:27:22,390 --> 00:27:32,630 call them the marginal lands out in the county to come up with a policy that 184 00:27:32,630 --> 00:27:38,610 And that will accommodate these RV, these storage applications in the future. 185 00:27:39,370 --> 00:27:49,590 So as Council and the public consider these, there will be a model in a framework that will be able to accommodate it. 186 00:27:50,030 --> 00:27:56,510 That certainly will be consistent with ramp but to be made in a sturgeon approach. 187 00:27:58,170 --> 00:28:05,450 It's not clarification before I'm sorry just to further clarify also this is a redistricting 188 00:28:05,450 --> 00:28:10,990 application which has no that does not need to be circulated to the EMRB only statutory 189 00:28:10,990 --> 00:28:14,050 documents need to go to the EMRB for compliance. 190 00:28:16,070 --> 00:28:17,350 Just follow up. 191 00:28:18,270 --> 00:28:22,490 Sorry, and how many RV parks do we have in the vicinity or within the county as a whole 192 00:28:22,490 --> 00:28:25,070 right now, and then I do have one additional question after that. 193 00:28:26,710 --> 00:28:27,290 Thank you. 194 00:28:30,050 --> 00:28:34,210 To answer your question through your deputy mayor to Councillor Thomson, don't have an exact number. 195 00:28:34,930 --> 00:28:43,990 I know we did a bit of an analysis a while back, but perhaps something we can bring back for you for a definitive number as well as division specific as well. 196 00:28:44,570 --> 00:28:46,230 Thank you, Councillor Sting. 197 00:28:47,030 --> 00:28:48,170 Thank you, through the chair. 198 00:28:48,170 --> 00:28:54,790 I know in the past, we've had concerns on Highway 37 considering the traffic load on that. 199 00:28:55,370 --> 00:29:00,350 So having said that, what type of upgrades would be required if this rezoning would go through? 200 00:29:00,490 --> 00:29:02,510 Because that would be substantial in thinking. 201 00:29:03,850 --> 00:29:09,630 Through you, Deputy Mayor Durbin, to Councillor Stang, so with Alberta or, sorry, transportation, economic corridors, 202 00:29:10,270 --> 00:29:16,350 issuing a roadside development permit, inciting no required upgrades for intersection upgrades, or lane tapers, or anything like that, 203 00:29:16,350 --> 00:29:20,910 We can anticipate there's nothing needed in terms of road upgrades for this application. 204 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:24,120 Councillor Tombs. 205 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:26,900 Thanks, through you, Mr. Chair. 206 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,500 So my last question with respect to RV parks has there ever been any analysis done on 207 00:29:30,500 --> 00:29:32,260 what occurs to the soil after? 208 00:29:32,380 --> 00:29:36,720 I mean, we have a multitude of vehicles in there with a lot of fluids that could potentially 209 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,460 be leaking in and out of them. 210 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,800 We've talked about drainage, so we know that whatever is in there is likely going to be going 211 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,040 down into the drainage channel. 212 00:29:43,300 --> 00:29:47,380 So can you tell me whether there's any issues with soil contamination and sterilization of 213 00:29:52,770 --> 00:29:59,850 We don't really have any understanding with regards to, in terms of contamination with regards to what happens. 214 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:29,840 On, with regards to RV storage, most of the vehicles I would assume during the winter would have been winterized, so they would have, you know, most of the fluids would have been drained other than antifreeze. I'm not sure it would be any more significant than machinery in a farm yard or those types of things. I'm not sure it would be significantly different. Go ahead, Councillor Recomo. Thank you. Through the chair. 215 00:30:30,660 --> 00:30:59,580 You mentioned that there's room for, they're looking at 45 room for up to 200 and in light of Councillor Stang's comments about highway 37 and, and reservations with how busy that road is, you know, the, the triggering point where it goes from 45 up to 200, would that trigger an AT look at going, okay, now we may maybe need a side road, and if so, do they own the secondary piece property where they can get over to the next gravel road? 216 00:30:59,580 --> 00:31:01,140 on an access road. 217 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,800 Through you, Deputy Mayor Durbin, to Councilor Cuomo. 218 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,140 So to answer your first part of the question, applicants applying for 45 years, they have 219 00:31:09,140 --> 00:31:12,620 not indicated to anyone at the county that they're looking to do more than that, starting 220 00:31:12,620 --> 00:31:13,140 with a base. 221 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:14,920 There is potential room for growth. 222 00:31:15,460 --> 00:31:19,780 As soon as they look to exceed past that 45 units, the county issues a development permit 223 00:31:19,780 --> 00:31:24,820 for 45 units, even if they wanted to go up to 75 units, a marginal increase, it would 224 00:31:24,820 --> 00:31:29,460 still require one a new development permit with the county, but also a new roadside development 225 00:31:29,460 --> 00:31:34,700 permit with Alberta transportation. So Alberta transportation would look at the increased growth that's going to be in that area 226 00:31:34,700 --> 00:31:40,620 Is it going to affect the highway or the new approaches needed that we looked at any any increase that we have that'll be taken care of. 227 00:31:42,850 --> 00:31:44,410 Thank you any other questions 228 00:31:47,420 --> 00:31:49,680 That being said that we have the local council 229 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,500 Read in the motion please 230 00:31:56,220 --> 00:31:57,360 Three Mr. Chair 231 00:31:58,340 --> 00:32:03,880 That council give first reading on by law 1627 slash 23 and if I may speak to this 232 00:32:05,340 --> 00:32:13,880 I'm going to support this but I'm going to support this so that I can hear what the surrounding community has to say with respect to RV parks within the area. 233 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:25,800 I know there have been a number of applications over the last couple of years and like I say I'm curious to hear what the public has to say with respect to that type of business being brought into the area. 234 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:25,860 Yeah. 235 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:34,240 Anybody else? Just make one comment, like Councillor Tom was saying, you know, 236 00:32:34,340 --> 00:32:40,820 in the eastern part of Canada, they are required now to lay down a liner and five inches 237 00:32:40,820 --> 00:32:47,620 agrable and then reclaim that afterwards. So there's thoughts that maybe sometime in 238 00:32:47,620 --> 00:32:52,940 the future that would happen, Sturgeon County, with the amount of RV sites we have. 239 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:57,960 Seeing 240 00:32:58,860 --> 00:33:00,020 All those in favour? 241 00:33:02,850 --> 00:33:03,990 I'll pass unanimously. 242 00:33:04,370 --> 00:33:05,090 Thank you very much. 243 00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:08,360 Okay. 244 00:33:08,820 --> 00:33:10,320 So, 6.3 down. 245 00:33:10,860 --> 00:33:11,780 Mr. Sopco. 246 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:12,280 Okay. 247 00:33:12,780 --> 00:33:15,180 Thank you. 248 00:33:15,340 --> 00:33:16,080 Deputy Mayor Durwin. 249 00:33:16,620 --> 00:33:21,980 Administration recommends that Council moved item 7.1, which is a closed session item for 250 00:33:21,980 --> 00:33:31,000 the Assessment Complaints Update for Rolls 2820000 and 4940000, so there will be a closed session 251 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,660 motion coming up shortly for a member of council to read. 252 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:34,840 Okay. 253 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,060 Thank you. 254 00:33:36,980 --> 00:33:37,780 Councillor Thoms. 255 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,300 I can go ahead and put this in close session. 256 00:33:40,700 --> 00:33:40,900 Thank you. 257 00:33:41,260 --> 00:33:42,240 Thanks to you, Mr. Chair. 258 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,900 That council moved to a closed session at 9.22 a.m., pursuant to section 1972. 259 00:33:46,060 --> 00:33:48,920 The municipal government acted in accordance with section 24 by some officials. 260 00:33:49,420 --> 00:33:55,480 In section 25, disclosure harmful to economic and other interests of a public body of the freedom of information and protection of privacy act. 261 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:57,660 Thank you. 262 00:33:57,660 --> 00:34:00,280 So I guess we'll give you time to clear the galley, 263 00:34:00,500 --> 00:34:02,200 whoever can be here, all 264 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:05,920 these things. 265 00:34:06,740 --> 00:34:10,600 All those in favor of going to the closed session, thank you. 266 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:11,120 Thank you. 267 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:38,390 motion. I feel as though I may be shouldn't until we go for it. 268 00:55:55,420 --> 00:55:56,700 Gary, come 269 00:56:23,420 --> 00:56:23,680 on. 270 00:56:25,990 --> 00:56:26,610 Council Member, 271 00:56:26,790 --> 00:56:31,330 you're going to read in the motion? Sure, again, thanks, through the chair, that council 272 00:56:31,330 --> 00:56:36,750 direct administration to proceed as recommended by administration in the confidential request 273 00:56:36,750 --> 00:56:42,850 for decision of item 7.1 of the April 25, 2023 regular council meeting agenda. 274 00:56:45,210 --> 00:56:45,610 Thank you. 275 00:56:45,610 --> 00:56:47,710 All those in favour? 276 00:56:50,620 --> 00:56:57,980 We see a five to all those opposed? We have five to one decision there. And the next motion, please. 277 00:57:00,220 --> 00:57:16,920 That the council requests for decision of the item 7.1 of the April 25, 2023 regular council agenda remain confidential in accordance with Section 24 advice from officials of the freedom of information and protection of privacy act. 278 00:57:18,700 --> 00:57:19,760 All those in favor? 279 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:22,560 Fast unanimously. 280 00:57:28,980 --> 00:57:30,220 Recess, Mr. Southgo. 281 00:57:30,860 --> 00:57:32,360 Yes, thank you, Deputy Mayor Derwin. 282 00:57:32,700 --> 00:57:35,500 Administration recommends that Council recess the Council meeting. 283 00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:39,860 And if you can give just a couple of moments for us to transition to committee of the whole. 284 00:57:40,580 --> 00:57:41,960 Take a five-minute break. 285 00:57:42,180 --> 00:57:43,040 Thank you. 286 00:57:43,180 --> 00:57:43,940 Five-minute break, then. 287 00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:44,400 Thank you. 288 00:59:12,410 --> 00:59:13,030 Regular Council. 289 00:59:16,940 --> 00:59:18,300 Item 6.5. 290 00:59:19,740 --> 00:59:20,840 And we have a- 291 00:59:21,700 --> 00:59:22,300 Pardon me? 292 00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:22,800 Yeah. 293 00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,640 So any time you, ladies, are ready? 294 00:59:28,550 --> 00:59:29,710 Okay, thank you. 295 00:59:30,370 --> 00:59:36,490 So for the good afternoon, W.D. Mayor Durwin, Council and members of the public. 296 00:59:36,630 --> 00:59:40,630 For the record, my name is Sabrina Duquette, and I'm the manager of corporate finance and treasury. 297 00:59:41,450 --> 00:59:46,230 Today, we have two motions before Council, one to have the audited statements approved. 298 00:59:46,830 --> 00:59:51,830 And another one to transfer the annual surplus to the general operating reserve. 299 00:59:51,830 --> 00:59:53,030 So, 300 00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,940 as mentioned, I'm here to present the 2022 financial year and 301 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:12,740 Report, and joining me is Mr. Hayes, our chief financial officer, and our external auditors, Mr. Chris Chalak and Tanner from MNP-LLP, who will present the audited financial statement results to council. 302 01:00:15,660 --> 01:00:32,060 So in December of 2021, council approved the 2022 operating capital budgets, the sudden motion, the planned financial activities for 2022. In November of 2022, MNP-LLP presented the 2022 audit service 303 01:00:32,060 --> 01:00:35,340 plan to council and administration worked with the auditors to complete the 304 01:00:35,340 --> 01:00:39,740 interim audit. During January and February, financial accounting, 305 01:00:39,900 --> 01:00:43,400 reconcilations working paper development and audit preparation were well 306 01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:47,400 underway to be fully prepared for the audit which occurred in March of 2023. 307 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:53,620 This was the county's first year of audit with MNPLLP, so more effort was 308 01:00:53,620 --> 01:00:58,620 undertaken to ensure that certain requirements were met and understood. MNP was 309 01:00:58,620 --> 01:01:00,940 as clear in their expectations, timely and professional. 310 01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:11,440 So just to go over responsibilities pertaining to the financial statements, administrations 311 01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:16,520 responsible for the fair preparation and presentation of the statements, and results in accordance 312 01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:21,540 with the Canadian public sector accounting standards, we're also responsible for developing 313 01:01:21,540 --> 01:01:23,080 and monitoring the internal controls. 314 01:01:24,210 --> 01:01:29,000 Council's responsibilities include oversight of management, appointing an independent external 315 01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:34,900 auditor and to approve the audited financial statements. Auditors are required to provide reasonable 316 01:01:34,900 --> 01:01:39,160 assurance that the financial statements are free of material statements and provide an overall 317 01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:40,860 opinion on the statements. 318 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,800 So to go through the financial assets, overall, there was a decrease 319 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:54,400 of 18 million from 2021 to 2022 and I'll go through a few of the reasons. So during 2021, 320 01:01:54,760 --> 01:02:00,420 taking us a little bit back in time, the cash and cash equivalence balance was substantial because 321 01:02:00,420 --> 01:02:05,500 because at the time the bank rates were no different than the longer-term investment rates 322 01:02:05,500 --> 01:02:06,160 at that time. 323 01:02:06,700 --> 01:02:11,120 However, during 2022, you'll see a shift in the balances from cash and cash equivalence 324 01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:15,340 to investments due to favorable rates of return for longer-term investments. 325 01:02:16,660 --> 01:02:21,980 Rates at the time of investment in 2022 were higher than historical rates, and they continued 326 01:02:21,980 --> 01:02:23,000 to rise throughout the year. 327 01:02:23,500 --> 01:02:28,700 With the rising interest rates through 2022, the market value of investments exceeded the 328 01:02:28,700 --> 01:02:34,060 curing value, but market costs below costs are considered to be temporary, therefore no 329 01:02:34,060 --> 01:02:36,740 rate downs were recorded or have been recorded. 330 01:02:38,340 --> 01:02:43,620 The net difference from 2021 to 2022 between cash and cash equivalents and investments 331 01:02:43,620 --> 01:02:49,800 is 19.5 million and some of the contributing factors include the county front-ended 9 million 332 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:55,040 from cash on hand for debt funded capital projects due to several interest rates hikes from 333 01:02:55,040 --> 01:03:01,440 the Bank of Canada. This required administration to amend many borrowing by-laws to incorporate 334 01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:06,820 the new interest rates during 2022. However, cash positions were sufficient to cover and 335 01:03:06,820 --> 01:03:13,360 finance these projects front-ended. As well, capital spending in 2022 was 65 million compared 336 01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:21,200 to 37.5 in 2021. A $27.5 million increase in the capital to programming and relative expenditures, 337 01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:24,160 and that does have cash flow considerations. 338 01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,060 So a few key things to note here. 339 01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:30,740 10 million of the capital was in accounts payable. 340 01:03:30,860 --> 01:03:32,960 The trade accounts payable in accruals at your end. 341 01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:37,740 9 million of the funding was front-edited from cash for debts. 342 01:03:38,420 --> 01:03:41,400 And that leaves an additional 8.5 million cash outflow 343 01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,800 from spending from 2022 to 2021. 344 01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,860 So the financial liabilities reflect an overall decrease 345 01:03:51,860 --> 01:03:58,840 increase of 2.6 million from 2021 to 2022 and the overall decrease in these periods of 346 01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:03,680 time were more significant increase to accounts payable and trade liabilities. That amount 347 01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:08,800 was 7 million between these years. The majority of that increase is also relative to capital 348 01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:14,160 accounts payable and capital cruells at your end in the amount of 5.5 million. The remaining 349 01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:20,640 1.5 million variance relates to various operating expenses accrued and paid or to be paid within 350 01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:21,940 into 2023. 351 01:04:23,620 --> 01:04:30,320 The employee benefit obligations reflected a minimal increase of .14 million, and this 352 01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:34,280 is a combination of a decreased vacation liability and an increase to the retirement 353 01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:34,840 liability. 354 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:40,360 Retirement liabilities and accounting estimate, considering many variables to arrive at 355 01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:47,860 the final liability results, during 2022 auditors presented to management for consideration to 356 01:04:47,860 --> 01:04:52,580 adopt historical attrition rate modeling for calculation purposes. This was incorporated 357 01:04:52,580 --> 01:04:56,720 into an adjustment in the original estimate in our year in financial statements. Going 358 01:04:56,720 --> 01:05:02,140 forward, NMP-LLP has also recommended an actual variation be performed every three to five 359 01:05:02,140 --> 01:05:06,420 years to validate the reasonability of this estimate and administration increase with this 360 01:05:06,900 --> 01:05:07,940 advice and support set. 361 01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:16,040 Long-term debts decreased by 3.4 million from 2021 to 2022. Increases were anticipated, 362 01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:19,080 but as mentioned previously, debt draws were postponed. 363 01:05:20,300 --> 01:05:24,780 And deferred revenue does have, we recognize more deferred revenue this year 364 01:05:24,780 --> 01:05:28,520 than in 2021 and mostly, again, attributed to more capital spending. 365 01:05:33,770 --> 01:05:39,330 So our revenues were greater than overall than anticipated by $3.9 million. 366 01:05:40,530 --> 01:05:42,370 To start off, we'll talk about a decrease. 367 01:05:42,650 --> 01:05:46,770 We had a municipal tax decrease of 1.6 million due to some assessment changes. 368 01:05:47,850 --> 01:05:50,270 Sales and user charges were greater than anticipated. 369 01:05:50,270 --> 01:05:57,290 However, these are typically offset by a corresponding expense as the majority of these user fees are based on the cost recovery model. 370 01:05:58,510 --> 01:06:03,370 Investment income was greater than anticipated due to conservative budgeting practices. 371 01:06:04,090 --> 01:06:10,290 So the overall income consisted of 2.4 million and 1.7 was in excess of budget. 372 01:06:10,930 --> 01:06:18,990 1.4 million of this amount was actually derived from short-term GICs and just our general operating bank account balance earnings 373 01:06:18,990 --> 01:06:24,130 with the remaining million from long-term investments that did come, come due. 374 01:06:24,670 --> 01:06:29,990 Special levies and tax prepayments mainly due to the community aggregate payment 375 01:06:29,990 --> 01:06:33,070 levie known as cap levie revenue was greater than anticipated as well. 376 01:06:34,010 --> 01:06:36,770 And then just in summary, other revenue was greater than anticipated 377 01:06:36,770 --> 01:06:41,490 from a one-time foreign exchange gain insurance proceeds and an unbudgeted third-party 378 01:06:41,490 --> 01:06:47,210 contribution for work that was completed in 2022, again, which has corresponding cost to that. 379 01:06:51,580 --> 01:07:20,840 Okay, so municipal expenses, so the two largest variances here are salaries, wages and benefits and contracted in general services, salaries, wages and benefits were less than budgeted approximately by $900,000 and resulting mostly from staff vacancies and timing of onboarding the contracted in general service expense, net of purchases from other governments resulted in less than anticipated expenditures mainly resulting from operating projects that have been carried forward into 2020. 380 01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:25,080 So we see these expenditures occur, but in a future financial reporting period. 381 01:07:27,220 --> 01:07:31,840 And then the county did experience a loss and disposal resulting from assets transferred 382 01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:38,700 in annexation process, a couple losses on asset sales, whip write-offs for a studies that 383 01:07:38,700 --> 01:07:42,580 cannot be capitalized, and amount related to a terminated development agreement. 384 01:07:45,050 --> 01:07:45,270 Okay. 385 01:07:47,620 --> 01:07:53,360 So overall the annual excess of revenue over expenses amounts to $34.8 million for 2022. 386 01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:58,480 It's important to note that the presentation of the annual budget varies somewhat from 387 01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:00,520 the legislative financial reporting requirements. 388 01:08:01,100 --> 01:08:05,840 The annual budget presents the capital spend principal debt payments and reserve transfers, 389 01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:09,600 which do not within the financial statement per legislation. 390 01:08:09,900 --> 01:08:12,180 The appearance is different, however, the results are the same. 391 01:08:15,870 --> 01:08:22,270 So to reconcile this difference for council, you can refer to note 2022 titled budget figures. 392 01:08:22,270 --> 01:08:26,390 This represents the 2022 operating surplus total of $5 million. 393 01:08:26,890 --> 01:08:34,030 However for simplicity, I've included the $5 million surplus by division on the screen above you as well to represent it in a different way. 394 01:08:34,730 --> 01:08:37,150 And it's also found within your 2022 financial report. 395 01:08:42,870 --> 01:08:48,530 Okay, so our accumulated surplus, it's detailed in note 15 for council members of the public. 396 01:08:48,530 --> 01:08:53,630 It equates to $401 million, which includes unrestricted deficit of $13.8. 397 01:08:53,630 --> 01:08:59,630 municipal reserves of 71.5 and equating tangible capital assets of 343.9. 398 01:09:00,290 --> 01:09:11,630 Just to cover a couple of the items, the unrestricted deficit amount includes budgeted capital expenditures which were incurred in advance of boring and tax prepayment revenue, which is yet to be recognized. 399 01:09:12,290 --> 01:09:21,670 The reserves will be discussed a little further on within the presentation, however, we have the forming categories within tax stabilization, life cycle, and growth contingency and 400 01:09:21,670 --> 01:09:26,450 special purpose, and then the equity and tangible capital assets has been reconciled with 401 01:09:26,450 --> 01:09:27,270 a note 14. 402 01:09:30,580 --> 01:09:36,700 So moving on to capital, the combination of new projects and projects carried forward 403 01:09:36,700 --> 01:09:43,120 from 2022's consolidated budget for capital was $104.6 million for the year and it consisted 404 01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:46,860 of 165 programs, projects and programs. 405 01:09:46,860 --> 01:09:52,000 So during 2022, that financial activity was $65 million spending. 406 01:09:52,540 --> 01:09:56,440 33.9 was carried forward to complete in future years. 407 01:09:56,780 --> 01:10:01,880 2.4 of the money remaining is restricted funding 408 01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:05,120 that's released back to where it needed to be. 409 01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:09,080 So as an example, debentures, non-discussionary grants 410 01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:11,640 which you can be used for specific purposes into the future. 411 01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:28,300 Just not anything specific, anything not specific within the capital program and then a net amount of 3.2 million which we're recommending Council transfer back into their initiating reserves in a following Council item today. 412 01:10:28,300 --> 01:10:29,260 So 413 01:10:33,140 --> 01:10:39,640 the consolidated tangible capital asset balance amounts to $366 million and $50 million 414 01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:45,340 increase from 2021 to 2022 net of amortization and disposal so we can see a large increase 415 01:10:45,340 --> 01:10:45,580 there. 416 01:10:47,890 --> 01:10:55,310 Municipal reserves at December 31st, we net a front-edded off-site infrastructure amounted 417 01:10:55,310 --> 01:10:59,770 to $71.5 million and $39.8 million remained and committed. 418 01:10:59,770 --> 01:11:06,490 The first chart within here shows the reserve composition details of committed and committed 419 01:11:06,490 --> 01:11:12,690 balances and the second chart represents the uncommitted balances for future needs within 420 01:11:12,690 --> 01:11:15,730 the respective target values represented by the dotted lines. 421 01:11:16,330 --> 01:11:23,050 So tax stabilization has an uncommitted balance of 5.4 million and an uncommitted balance 422 01:11:23,050 --> 01:11:29,970 of $14 million in the target of 5.4 million, the contingency reserves have an 423 01:11:29,970 --> 01:11:34,990 uncommitted amount of $1.2 million with a target balance of $4.5 million, the 424 01:11:34,990 --> 01:11:41,030 lifecycle reserves have an uncommitted balance of $14.6 million and a target 425 01:11:41,030 --> 01:11:44,710 value that's currently under review of $15.6 million and finally the special 426 01:11:44,710 --> 01:11:46,770 purpose have an uncommitted balance of $10 million. 427 01:11:49,230 --> 01:11:51,810 Municipal debt, we had nine 428 01:11:51,810 --> 01:11:58,610 projects approved from 2021 to 2022. The available debt limit at the end of the year was 429 01:11:58,610 --> 01:12:04,150 133.8 million and debt servicing available was 23 million as prescribed by the Municipal 430 01:12:04,150 --> 01:12:09,030 Government Act. So in a good position there from available debt, after the removal of budget 431 01:12:09,030 --> 01:12:12,810 commitments and contingency amounts, the capacity totals a 3.9. 432 01:12:15,510 --> 01:12:16,990 So contingent liabilities, 433 01:12:17,930 --> 01:12:22,310 if applicable, we must disclose within the financial statement notes. 434 01:12:23,870 --> 01:12:26,930 anything that we know of as administration 435 01:12:26,930 --> 01:12:29,310 or based on advice from legal counsel 436 01:12:29,310 --> 01:12:31,710 and the final determination is that there's no litigations 437 01:12:31,710 --> 01:12:34,130 underway that would materially affect 438 01:12:34,130 --> 01:12:35,750 the county's financial position 439 01:12:35,750 --> 01:12:37,110 or results of its operations. 440 01:12:39,090 --> 01:12:41,170 And then future accounting standards, 441 01:12:41,170 --> 01:12:43,870 the asset retirement obligation is one that's coming up. 442 01:12:44,730 --> 01:12:47,410 Administrations currently undertaking efforts 443 01:12:47,410 --> 01:12:50,090 in accordance with the standard to ensure 444 01:12:50,090 --> 01:12:51,070 that we're in compliance. 445 01:12:51,530 --> 01:12:53,490 This one's a more significant change 446 01:12:53,490 --> 01:12:59,450 because it does involve various departments across the county's support to be able to adhere 447 01:12:59,450 --> 01:13:04,630 to the standard by the end of 2023, but we do have a really good start on it, and we're 448 01:13:04,630 --> 01:13:08,410 actually coming to the end of the first section of the first phase of the review for this. 449 01:13:09,070 --> 01:13:14,250 It includes decommissioning, providing estimates for decommissioning, dismantling tangible capital 450 01:13:14,250 --> 01:13:21,090 assets that were acquired, constructed or developed, if reliable to do so, remediation or clean 451 01:13:21,090 --> 01:13:25,970 up of contaminated or tangible capital assets created by its normal use. And as mentioned, 452 01:13:26,170 --> 01:13:31,830 this comes into effect 2023 financial reporting year end. We just need to be able to establish 453 01:13:31,830 --> 01:13:32,870 a liability for those. 454 01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:40,600 The next slide just shows a few other standards that are coming into effect 455 01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:45,720 next year or the year after. So we do have some work to adhere to these standards. So just wanted 456 01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:51,540 to make note of that. They're also within your financial statement notes. That's all I have for 457 01:13:51,540 --> 01:13:52,860 for my portion of the presentation. 458 01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,420 I'd like to end with a thank you to my team 459 01:13:55,420 --> 01:13:56,460 and corporate finance. 460 01:13:57,460 --> 01:14:00,440 Lots of hours achieving a successful audit, 461 01:14:00,660 --> 01:14:03,240 which I'm hoping that MNP will present to you shortly. 462 01:14:03,780 --> 01:14:05,840 And a special thanks to all the department staff 463 01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:07,220 across the county and management 464 01:14:07,220 --> 01:14:08,920 who supported in meeting timelines, 465 01:14:09,260 --> 01:14:12,180 inquiries from finance, inquiries from MNP. 466 01:14:12,740 --> 01:14:15,120 It's a collective effort to get us to this point 467 01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:16,700 of the county, so thank you to everybody. 468 01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:18,560 And with that, that concludes my 469 01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:19,860 I am portion of the presentation. 470 01:14:20,340 --> 01:14:24,340 I welcome comments from Mr. Hayes and also from MNP, 471 01:14:24,540 --> 01:14:25,420 following Mr. Hayes. 472 01:14:28,370 --> 01:14:29,210 I thank Council. 473 01:14:29,290 --> 01:14:31,370 I've nothing more to add other than to say in the year 474 01:14:31,370 --> 01:14:33,730 where you onboard a new auditor, it's a little more work 475 01:14:33,730 --> 01:14:36,130 and the audit process itself is somewhat harrowing 476 01:14:36,130 --> 01:14:39,290 to have all your work independently reviewed by experts. 477 01:14:39,490 --> 01:14:42,090 But I'm comforted that that is a good control 478 01:14:42,090 --> 01:14:45,630 again, flagging any risks or concerns with our finances, 479 01:14:45,630 --> 01:14:48,670 which is something we don't want to take for granted. 480 01:14:48,670 --> 01:14:52,210 And so with that, I'm just pleased with the work, and I look forward to the presentation. 481 01:14:54,390 --> 01:14:58,750 Thank you very much, are we going to have questions from council? 482 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,100 Any, anybody got any questions? 483 01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:19,180 Okay, that's, that's good. Thank you very much for here. I'll go ahead. Yes, thank you through the chair, and I would welcome Mr. Chris Scholeck from MNP to conduct his portion of the presentation. Now on the audited statements and their opinion. Thank you very much. 484 01:15:25,130 --> 01:15:37,710 Good afternoon, everybody. Sorry. You bet. Can you hear me clearly? Excellent. You know what? I'm going to have my colleague join me as well. We'll do some quick. I'll just jump into the next slide. 485 01:15:38,350 --> 01:15:40,750 So, nice to see everyone again. 486 01:15:40,890 --> 01:15:41,730 My name is Chris Chul. 487 01:15:41,870 --> 01:15:45,950 I come a partner with MNP's public service audit team and I'll let my colleague introduce 488 01:15:45,950 --> 01:15:46,350 himself. 489 01:15:46,970 --> 01:15:47,470 I'm Tanner Bowers. 490 01:15:47,590 --> 01:15:51,170 I'm a senior manager out of our Ladoo office and responsible for management of the audit. 491 01:15:52,430 --> 01:15:57,130 So today we're going to go through our audit findings, a recap of the audit process, things 492 01:15:57,130 --> 01:16:00,790 we've identified through the audit process and just other general comments to bring to 493 01:16:00,790 --> 01:16:03,250 your attention as we recap and conclude the audit. 494 01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:08,660 I'll jump right through that slide. 495 01:16:08,660 --> 01:16:13,600 So just from an agenda and administrative process, please, at any one time, if there's 496 01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,740 any questions whatsoever, don't wait to the end, shout them out as we go. 497 01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,900 It's a lot easier and makes it for a much more constructive conversation. 498 01:16:20,980 --> 01:16:25,220 And if I don't have a direct answer right in front of me, I will make sure to toss 499 01:16:25,220 --> 01:16:28,000 hand around to the bus and make sure he can get back to you. 500 01:16:29,780 --> 01:16:33,920 And so, next slide you're building off on Sabrina's comments. 501 01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:38,000 Really, the purpose of the audit fundamentally is simple. 502 01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:43,140 And it is to give our opinion on whether we agree with the financial information presented 503 01:16:43,140 --> 01:16:44,260 within the financial statements. 504 01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:48,580 As Sabrina mentioned, there are really three parties, management and administration 505 01:16:48,580 --> 01:16:52,320 and finance, who are responsible for the accumulation of their operations throughout the year, 506 01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:56,000 and preparing the financial statements and resulting in accounting records. 507 01:16:56,660 --> 01:17:02,040 Yourself's is counsel, who are responsible for the off-road oversight and review of the financial 508 01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:07,640 information, and then us at MNP, who are, as Andrew had mentioned, the third party that comes 509 01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:12,120 in and really gives an opinion on whether we agree with the financial information as presented. 510 01:17:15,410 --> 01:17:19,910 So, it was a bit of a recap from our audit service plan and audit strategy initially presented. 511 01:17:20,690 --> 01:17:23,310 We had no changes from our initial audit service plan. 512 01:17:23,830 --> 01:17:27,650 Our final materiality was consistent with what was originally presented at $4.5 million, 513 01:17:27,890 --> 01:17:31,230 which represents approximately 4% of your operating budget for the year. 514 01:17:31,950 --> 01:17:36,110 And we still have a comment regarding COVID because as an audit process, we always look backwards. 515 01:17:36,110 --> 01:17:45,770 And so over the prior year, COVID was still an effect for the most part in the beginning of 2022, but no impacts as a result of COVID within these financial statements. 516 01:17:49,420 --> 01:17:56,560 So areas of audit emphasis, as part of our audit process, our audit focuses on areas of higher or highest risk. 517 01:17:56,680 --> 01:18:07,900 Those areas, both that contain some estimation, maintain or require specific manual processes, changes, and other significant balances within your financial statements. 518 01:18:07,900 --> 01:18:11,360 So the next couple slides highlight some of those significant areas and components. 519 01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:15,560 It's not to say we all of our attention is spent on these areas, but 520 01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:20,980 more of our attention is spent on these areas based on our, well, based on history and 521 01:18:20,980 --> 01:18:26,420 based on our professional assessment of the counties overall operations. 522 01:18:27,140 --> 01:18:31,500 So the first section we have there's tangible capital assets, so buildings, 523 01:18:31,500 --> 01:18:37,260 roadways, sewers, all of the significant assets for continued use by the county. 524 01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:42,100 Being this most significant number in any municipal government's financial statements, 525 01:18:42,300 --> 01:18:48,620 there's always some significant estimation and there's always some objective review of these financial assets. 526 01:18:48,860 --> 01:18:53,960 So, we look to make sure, specifically, for those assets that are transferred to the county, 527 01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:57,940 through developers or otherwise, that they're transferred at the appropriate timing. 528 01:18:57,940 --> 01:19:08,340 So there's construction completion certificates or final acceptance certificates that have been received, really where the county has accepted liability and accepted those assets into their books from the devarious developers. 529 01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:15,840 We also look and do some sampling and tracing on purchases, disposals and other asset acquisitions and sales throughout the year. 530 01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:20,240 And no concerns or significant issues of any kind from our auto process. 531 01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:26,540 The next line here we have is, you know, I'm going to jump back, just to defer revenue and government transfers. 532 01:19:27,180 --> 01:19:33,180 Specifically, defer revenue and government transfers typically require and include some type of restriction or 533 01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:40,020 specific purpose as to what the funds are provided for. And anytime there's specific restrictions or purpose, 534 01:19:40,220 --> 01:19:46,980 we look to ensure that those funds are spent, expended on what was originally intended. Or if there if there wasn't originally intended, 535 01:19:46,980 --> 01:19:51,960 budget or amendments received from the original funders. 536 01:19:52,580 --> 01:19:57,200 So we test the outgoing expenditures as part of the process to ensure that they're compliant 537 01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:01,340 with the original agreements and regulations, and no concerns or issues from our side. 538 01:20:02,020 --> 01:20:06,600 And finally, salaries and wages by far the largest operating cost of any government. 539 01:20:07,140 --> 01:20:11,680 So we look to ensure that staff are being paid appropriately, not being paid under or overpaid. 540 01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:15,680 They're receiving the appropriate benefits that any remittances or deductions are being 541 01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:20,820 paid appropriately and within consistent timing, and again, no concerns from our perspective. 542 01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:23,380 You know, I'm just going to jump in there. 543 01:20:23,540 --> 01:20:25,140 Please, I'm talking about salaries and that. 544 01:20:25,420 --> 01:20:28,340 The retirement area was a little bit, they're working on it. 545 01:20:28,580 --> 01:20:29,640 How's that working on this? 546 01:20:30,020 --> 01:20:30,380 Absolutely. 547 01:20:30,900 --> 01:20:34,420 You know what, if you'll bear with me, I'll jump to the next slide, 548 01:20:34,480 --> 01:20:36,800 because it is one of our significant areas of emphasis. 549 01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:41,200 And I'll actually go into a little bit of depth on it, but I'll jump right into that one first. 550 01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:42,220 Post-retirement benefits. 551 01:20:42,220 --> 01:20:46,840 So the retirement benefits, along with the retirement liabilities, and 552 01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:51,300 along with the retirement benefits include some significant estimates. 553 01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:59,780 How many employees are going to last and get to their actually achieve the various outcomes where they'll be able to benefit or receive the payments? 554 01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:08,520 When we expect them to receive the payments, what their salaries are going to be, and proportionately, of those employees that haven't yet reached the thresholds. 555 01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:12,760 how many and what percentage you think are actually going to achieve and hit those thresholds. 556 01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:17,920 So as part of the audit process, we proposed to manage me a little bit of a, I guess, 557 01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:23,000 retro-spective review of attrition rates at employees at at various levels throughout the 558 01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:28,040 county going back, I believe it was five years, and looking at those employees over the last five 559 01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:35,620 years, how many have left, left the county at the various, various years of service and making sure 560 01:21:35,620 --> 01:21:42,020 that as employees kind of over time, incrementally, if they're moving up along their years of service, 561 01:21:42,020 --> 01:21:46,460 we should see if employees are leaving over time, which we would expect in any organization, 562 01:21:46,780 --> 01:21:50,900 there's always going to be some level of attrition, that attrition rate is being reflected in kind 563 01:21:50,900 --> 01:21:54,920 of the model for how much the county is going to have to pay. 564 01:21:55,300 --> 01:21:59,180 And so as part of that assessment, we came up with a little bit of an adjustment to the financial 565 01:21:59,180 --> 01:22:03,300 statements and a material adjustment, but not an adjustment nonetheless, but I think it reflects 566 01:22:03,300 --> 01:22:32,920 Alex, one of our suggestions that will come through as part of our control and process is the value add component of the audit as to really we've suggested and I think management and administration agrees that an actuarial assessment would be beneficial to the county really and it's not an annual actuarial assessment, but because of the complexity and number of estimates involved in coming up with that model how many employees are actually going to ultimately achieve and will 567 01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:38,420 be paid part of the retirement benefit, it provides a bit of a baseline to the 568 01:22:38,420 --> 01:22:42,540 county on an ongoing basis. And so our recommendation, I'm jumping ahead a 569 01:22:42,540 --> 01:22:48,060 couple slides, but is if an actual assessment is kind of obtained in quarter 570 01:22:48,060 --> 01:22:53,720 one of 2024, we can use that information retroactively for the 2023 audit, but 571 01:22:53,720 --> 01:23:00,000 also for 2024 and ongoing years as a stable baseline. So from a timing 572 01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:06,180 perspective, it provides a little bit more benefit and also allows the county, some cost 573 01:23:06,180 --> 01:23:10,980 savings so that you don't have to undertake that assessment on an ongoing or every year, 574 01:23:11,020 --> 01:23:11,780 multi-year basis. 575 01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:18,060 Really, once you've got a baseline from an actuary providing a standard kind of threshold 576 01:23:18,060 --> 01:23:23,200 liability, then it's easy enough to change the model for any significant changes at the 577 01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:29,440 county level, whether that's increases in staffing or changes to the liability account 578 01:23:29,440 --> 01:23:32,820 as deemed by council or administration or otherwise. 579 01:23:35,310 --> 01:23:36,870 Thank you, great question, Councillor. 580 01:23:38,590 --> 01:23:45,390 The other areas of significant audit focus estimates, as Sabrina had mentioned, the 581 01:23:45,390 --> 01:23:49,130 county has transferred a significant amount of the cash pool into estimates throughout the 582 01:23:49,130 --> 01:23:49,290 year. 583 01:23:50,210 --> 01:23:55,410 And as we all know, interest rates have fluctuated dramatically throughout 2022. 584 01:23:55,750 --> 01:24:01,090 So as part of the estimates process and investments and the audit of the investments process, we 585 01:24:01,090 --> 01:24:05,230 We look to ensure that estimates are being appropriately valued and presented in the financial 586 01:24:05,230 --> 01:24:09,730 statements that any non-temperary write downs that may be required. 587 01:24:10,490 --> 01:24:15,270 So, you know, if the investments are intended or will likely be held to maturity and some 588 01:24:15,270 --> 01:24:19,610 unrealized losses that may have occurred, are there that they're not being reflected or 589 01:24:19,610 --> 01:24:20,110 written down. 590 01:24:20,290 --> 01:24:26,870 But if, for an example, investments are held in an entity that has gone into receivership 591 01:24:26,870 --> 01:24:31,770 And you don't expect to ever recover those funds that we've, they've been written down accordingly. 592 01:24:32,330 --> 01:24:37,790 And so as part of our process, we review and agree all investment balances to the third party investment statements. 593 01:24:38,290 --> 01:24:43,130 Re-calculate bond values, especially bonds that are purchased not at initial acquisition. 594 01:24:43,130 --> 01:24:45,030 There's always a bit of an amortization period. 595 01:24:45,410 --> 01:24:48,990 And I'm sure that they're being accurately reflected in the financial statements. 596 01:24:49,470 --> 01:24:51,990 And no issues from our perspective whatsoever. 597 01:24:51,990 --> 01:24:57,710 However, and I guess while we're speaking to investments and building off Sabrina's previous 598 01:24:57,710 --> 01:25:03,570 comment about future accounting pronouncements, next year there's a new financial accounting 599 01:25:03,570 --> 01:25:07,490 pronouncement called Financial Instruments which may change the presentation of investment 600 01:25:07,490 --> 01:25:14,310 slightly to what has been historically, specifically unrealize gains and losses on publicly traded 601 01:25:14,310 --> 01:25:19,190 securities or publicly traded marketable securities, we'll now be presented on a separate statement 602 01:25:19,190 --> 01:25:20,910 and called the statement of re-measurement gains and losses. 603 01:25:21,610 --> 01:25:23,630 I would almost call it a separate income statement, 604 01:25:23,690 --> 01:25:25,290 a separate statement of operations. 605 01:25:25,830 --> 01:25:29,690 That way it peels out any unrealized gains and losses 606 01:25:29,690 --> 01:25:31,290 and unrealized foreign exchanges 607 01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:34,270 from your operational activities throughout the year. 608 01:25:38,060 --> 01:25:40,980 And the last one, sorry, the last one I had was gravel inventory, 609 01:25:42,500 --> 01:25:44,040 specifically while the county doesn't 610 01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:46,340 and I'll hold material balances of gravel, 611 01:25:46,940 --> 01:25:48,960 gravel is always a significant estimate 612 01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:51,580 it to any, I'll call Rome, municipality. 613 01:25:52,100 --> 01:25:55,740 Any time you're holding gravel, there's always significant estimates in assessing the 614 01:25:55,740 --> 01:25:58,460 volume of gravel held and the cost of the gravel. 615 01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:05,340 So the volume is assessed through third party, internal GPS surveys that do an assessment of 616 01:26:05,340 --> 01:26:10,100 gravel piles and costing is based on, you know, historical crushing costs as no crushing 617 01:26:10,100 --> 01:26:12,280 was done in the year, but no issues from my perspective. 618 01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:21,720 And finally, the last, I'll call significant area of focus is specifically journal entry 619 01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:25,120 testing, and when I see journal entry testing, this is manual accounting processes. 620 01:26:25,420 --> 01:26:30,460 Any time that is not a routine process that goes through the typical accounting cycle, 621 01:26:30,940 --> 01:26:34,360 any time that there is a manual adjustment throughout the financial statements. 622 01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:41,620 And so there's always a bit of a fraud risk in any time that there is a manual adjustment, 623 01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:45,680 because it takes away the kind of implicit IT review or 624 01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:49,840 typical process review within any accounting function. 625 01:26:49,840 --> 01:27:16,100 And with that we use an AI tool called Mindbridge that looks at the county's complete set of accounting records throughout the year and assesses every single transaction for areas of specific risk or other thresholds and uses hundreds of different models including numerical basis and key words and functions to spit out a list of high risk transactions that we specifically focus on and assess. 626 01:27:16,100 --> 01:27:22,160 And so there were six entries throughout the year that we assessed, and there were no issues with any of those entries identified. 627 01:27:26,130 --> 01:27:34,510 So onto the audit status, as of today, the audit is complete, depending approval by yourselves as counsel, and we've got an unqualified or a clean audit opinion. 628 01:27:37,630 --> 01:27:47,050 You know, before I jump on, I really would like to just take a minute to really express our appreciation and give kudos and thanks to Andrew Sirenet, the whole finance team. 629 01:27:47,050 --> 01:27:53,830 You know, as Reno mentioned, a new audit, coming in as new auditors, there's always a significant 630 01:27:53,830 --> 01:28:00,610 amount of transition time, effort, and a lot of initial discussions in assessing and understanding, 631 01:28:01,210 --> 01:28:06,430 working processes, controls, and even internal working papers. I really do want to give a kudos 632 01:28:06,430 --> 01:28:14,010 to the finance team. The audit went incredibly smoothly and it just tells to the kind of excellence 633 01:28:14,010 --> 01:28:15,590 and expertise of the team as a whole. 634 01:28:21,210 --> 01:28:27,010 Adjusted differences are those, any differences that we identify through discresors with management 635 01:28:27,010 --> 01:28:31,770 or through the audit process that are reflected in these financial statements already, whereas 636 01:28:31,770 --> 01:28:36,070 unadjusted differences are not reflected, and this would be applied in that materiality level. 637 01:28:36,210 --> 01:28:41,050 So we have no unadjusted differences, which is fantastic to see, and the only adjusted difference 638 01:28:41,050 --> 01:28:45,190 we have is specifically regarding the retirement liability through some of the attrition rate 639 01:28:45,190 --> 01:28:46,650 analysis that we had done with management. 640 01:28:47,730 --> 01:28:49,590 And those are already reflected in the financial statements. 641 01:28:51,900 --> 01:28:55,700 And now the last couple slides here are, I guess, again, when I build on the value added 642 01:28:55,700 --> 01:28:59,380 component of the audit, the internal control and just operational considerations for 643 01:28:59,380 --> 01:29:01,300 yourselves as council and administration. 644 01:29:01,740 --> 01:29:06,040 So the first one we have here is specific authorization of manual journal entries. 645 01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:09,240 And this ties into that mind-bridge AI testing. 646 01:29:10,660 --> 01:29:15,600 As part of the audit process, especially this year, there's a new audit standard, Canadian 647 01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:21,080 an audit standard that requires us to assess specifically more assessment of internal controls 648 01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:25,460 that would be required in years past, and there's a very explicit requirement for us to 649 01:29:25,460 --> 01:29:30,540 look at the manual journal entry and manual accounting process, and as part of that process 650 01:29:30,540 --> 01:29:35,380 to recommend or ensure that there's a review and recommendation process that there's not 651 01:29:35,380 --> 01:29:36,860 a specific review process in place. 652 01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:42,240 So as part of the current accounting process when there is a manual general journal 653 01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:47,240 entry post that there's not a direct review. So there's not necessarily a requirement or 654 01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:51,940 a direct requirement either through the existing accounting system which my understanding 655 01:29:51,940 --> 01:29:56,060 is doesn't exist in the current accounting system. So there's not a secondary process for 656 01:29:56,060 --> 01:29:59,880 review of journal entries. Our recommendation is 657 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:29,200 Specifically, is that there is a review process kind of put into place in the interim, and then ultimately when the county works through an assesses and identifies and works towards a new accounting system, that that new accounting system includes an automated process, or not automated process, of a review of all those manual general journal entries, which is quite consistent with some of the new larger accounting systems. They all have built in, I'll call them, internal automated internal controls. 658 01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:34,360 requirements requiring these control processes to be built into place, but it's a recommendation 659 01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:39,860 from our side as it eliminates, fundamentally eliminates some fraud risk that exists within 660 01:30:39,860 --> 01:30:46,160 the county. And from our discussions with management and finance, they agree with our recommendation 661 01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:53,320 and are implementing kind of a process in place while the current ERP assessment and process 662 01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:55,560 for new software is undertaken. 663 01:30:57,880 --> 01:31:00,160 And I spoke to this one earlier, specifically the retirement 664 01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:06,300 benefit liability. Oh, please. Sorry, thank you. Mr. Chair, thank you very much for that. 665 01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:10,480 Just curious, does our current software have the capacity to do that with add-ons or anything, 666 01:31:10,540 --> 01:31:14,320 or is this something that we would have to purchase if we want to eliminate that? So I'm just 667 01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:18,300 wondering what the price take for that little teeny recommendation might end up being. 668 01:31:22,740 --> 01:31:28,360 Please. Through the Chair, to Councillor Tom's full disclosure with the system coming to end of 669 01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:35,660 life in the next couple years. Any of the add-ons we have looked at bringing in are quite significant. 670 01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:42,680 Even the software providers do no longer have internal expertise in how to modify. 671 01:31:43,440 --> 01:31:48,640 They would be going through a learning curve as well so just be just as good as us having somebody 672 01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:56,680 within our own IT department, trying to build that add-on. What Chris is speaking to is we currently 673 01:31:56,680 --> 01:32:01,080 review and approve all journal entries outside of our financial system so there's a very 674 01:32:01,080 --> 01:32:06,820 manual process involved and it's work flow through folders and directories and then in 675 01:32:06,820 --> 01:32:12,000 the system people can post their own journal entries so that's the control that we're talking 676 01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:16,500 about there and through a new financial system there'd be a workflow in place where you could have 677 01:32:16,500 --> 01:32:20,800 all this important documentation in the entry itself there and you could kick it to the next person 678 01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:25,040 who needs to review it which is what we would like to see but currently not an option in our 679 01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:30,560 existing system. Great job setting that in motion. Sabrina has already prepared for a software 680 01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:32,740 ask for finance. Thank you. 681 01:32:36,210 --> 01:32:37,130 Thank you, Councillor. 682 01:32:39,150 --> 01:32:41,830 The last slide we hear we have here regarding 683 01:32:41,830 --> 01:32:45,570 internal control and operational considerations. I've spoken to, but specifically regarding 684 01:32:45,570 --> 01:32:53,170 the retirement benefit liabilities. As previously mentioned, because of the, I would say, the 685 01:32:53,170 --> 01:33:06,110 The scope, number of estimates, and the complexity in the estimates in determining what the actual liability is expected to be to the county at any one time for payment of those retirement liabilities to the various employees. 686 01:33:06,750 --> 01:33:18,890 Our recommendation is that you undertake a national aerial assessment ideally in quarter one of 2024, that way we can benefit from it for multiple audit years and into the ongoing future. 687 01:33:18,890 --> 01:33:24,730 to establish a bit of a baseline and ensure we have a baseline calculation and an actuarially 688 01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:30,310 kind of assessed baseline calculation because while we're, while we're accountants and I feel 689 01:33:30,310 --> 01:33:35,030 like our model is quite strong that we've built out, you know, technically we're not actuaries 690 01:33:35,030 --> 01:33:40,590 and I don't want to stand in front of you and make any, make any assertations that we stand 691 01:33:40,590 --> 01:33:45,710 by that from an actuarial perspective. There's just another level of certainty that comes 692 01:33:45,710 --> 01:33:47,550 was with an actuary providing that estimation. 693 01:33:51,630 --> 01:33:51,910 Please, Councillor. 694 01:33:53,860 --> 01:33:56,860 Anybody else on council have a question, Councillor Thomson? 695 01:33:57,040 --> 01:33:58,460 I'm just going to keep with my same theme. 696 01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:01,460 How much does an actuarial assessment about going to cost? 697 01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:03,600 Please. 698 01:34:05,380 --> 01:34:09,280 Through the chair to Councillor Thomson, I did investigate it a few years ago because it 699 01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:15,360 was actually a management point on our audit findings probably three years ago. 700 01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:19,540 So we did tighten up the liability calculation, we needed to get it off the letter. 701 01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:25,480 So at that time, when I was going over estimates, it seemed to be around $15,000. 702 01:34:26,460 --> 01:34:27,980 But that was a few years ago. 703 01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:41,340 Turn it on, just curious, cyber attack, how is our finance department when it comes to that kind of threat? 704 01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:43,160 Do you guys even handle that? 705 01:34:43,260 --> 01:34:44,180 Is that different department? 706 01:34:45,300 --> 01:34:46,780 Any concerns there at all? 707 01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:57,380 Through you, Deputy Mayor Durwin, I can respond from information services perspective and 708 01:34:57,380 --> 01:35:03,440 the auditors may have some additional findings, but certainly last year we completed a cyber security 709 01:35:03,440 --> 01:35:13,960 audit. We had actually the same firm, different area provide that services for us and came 710 01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:19,940 through the budget process and Council approved cyber security monitoring service as well as 711 01:35:19,940 --> 01:35:32,560 additional service enhancement smaller projects to address the findings of that cyber security audit, so we're implementing those now and certainly that's of top priority for administration. 712 01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:35,420 Okay, thank you for that, just clarification. 713 01:35:36,860 --> 01:35:39,300 Thanks. Okay, Mr. Hayes, go ahead. 714 01:35:39,860 --> 01:35:46,000 Mr. Chair, I just want to add to that that we're also have insurance coverage for an 715 01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:51,540 attack if it's not prevented and we're actually reviewing that coverage now just to make 716 01:35:51,540 --> 01:35:52,440 sure it's sufficient. 717 01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:54,300 And we look forward to getting back to Council. 718 01:35:56,560 --> 01:35:56,680 Good. 719 01:35:56,880 --> 01:35:57,160 Thank you. 720 01:35:57,260 --> 01:35:58,620 Any other questions from Council? 721 01:35:59,400 --> 01:35:59,560 Oh. 722 01:36:02,670 --> 01:36:03,570 Thank you very much, gentlemen. 723 01:36:04,470 --> 01:36:05,190 Thank you, Yelser. 724 01:36:06,170 --> 01:36:07,810 I will wrap this up very quickly. 725 01:36:09,190 --> 01:36:10,810 Just jumping through the next slide. 726 01:36:11,990 --> 01:36:16,750 And we're required as part of our audit process to ensure and confirm that we're independent 727 01:36:16,750 --> 01:36:17,310 as auditors. 728 01:36:17,490 --> 01:36:17,990 We feel that we are. 729 01:36:18,090 --> 01:36:19,570 We've got a secondary letter issued. 730 01:36:20,390 --> 01:36:24,950 And the last note I have on here, well, not on the screen, specifically is in regards to 731 01:36:24,950 --> 01:36:25,570 subsequent events. 732 01:36:25,790 --> 01:36:29,850 We're required as auditors to have a discussion on subsequent events up to the anticipated report 733 01:36:29,850 --> 01:36:30,150 date. 734 01:36:30,510 --> 01:36:34,310 We've discussed with management and the finance team, but just to quickly pass this over to 735 01:36:34,310 --> 01:36:40,650 you, folks on council, has anything major material significant come popped up that you're aware 736 01:36:40,650 --> 01:36:45,110 of that may impact these financial statements in any way that are not currently reflected 737 01:36:45,110 --> 01:36:45,470 in them. 738 01:36:50,020 --> 01:36:51,020 It looks like no. 739 01:36:52,180 --> 01:36:52,440 So. 740 01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:53,440 Wonderful. 741 01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:55,080 That's always the answer I hope to hear. 742 01:36:56,640 --> 01:36:57,980 Well, thank you, Chris. 743 01:36:58,180 --> 01:36:58,860 Are you done? 744 01:36:59,380 --> 01:36:59,900 That's everything. 745 01:36:59,940 --> 01:37:00,100 Okay. 746 01:37:00,380 --> 01:37:04,200 So thanks, Chris and Tanner, for coming out and Tanner, you're talked too much, but anyway. 747 01:37:04,980 --> 01:37:05,420 Yeah. 748 01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:09,120 Just to bring up the hair quote. 749 01:37:10,260 --> 01:37:10,600 Okay. 750 01:37:11,620 --> 01:37:12,420 Mr. Hayes, go ahead. 751 01:37:13,100 --> 01:37:14,340 Thank you, Mr. Chair. 752 01:37:14,340 --> 01:37:21,900 And I just want to offer a remind council that they have the opportunity to speak to the auditors and private should they desire to do so but with that 753 01:37:21,900 --> 01:37:27,160 Thank you very much to our still auditors for for the work done this year and thank you to council for 754 01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:28,720 Their feedback today 755 01:37:30,710 --> 01:37:35,650 Good show. We're so we have thanks. Thanks again guys. Thank you very much. We have two motions 756 01:37:36,610 --> 01:37:37,890 coming out of this and 757 01:37:37,890 --> 01:37:39,170 Council come on 758 01:37:40,130 --> 01:37:43,030 Thank you through the chair the council approve the trip 759 01:37:46,670 --> 01:37:52,070 Yes, sorry. The Council approved the transfer of the 2022 operating surplus in the amount 760 01:37:52,070 --> 01:37:58,270 of $5,303,593 to the general operating reserve. 761 01:37:59,470 --> 01:38:01,270 Any questions from Council? 762 01:38:04,690 --> 01:38:09,950 So no questions, no debate. All those in favor, it's 763 01:38:12,290 --> 01:38:12,630 passed 764 01:38:12,630 --> 01:38:15,110 unanimously and second part. 765 01:38:15,110 --> 01:38:23,550 Through the Chair, the Council will approve the 2022 audited financial statements as prepared by administration and audited by the accounting firm of Myers-Norris Penny. 766 01:38:24,370 --> 01:38:25,570 Any debate? Questions? 767 01:38:27,490 --> 01:38:29,690 I'll call the question. All those in favour? 768 01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:32,980 Okay, thank you. 769 01:38:37,440 --> 01:38:38,300 Mr. Southgoer. 770 01:38:39,140 --> 01:38:49,980 Thank you, Dr. Merger. When the recommendation is to go to item 6.2, we have a couple of items but we think that we can get through them pretty efficiently so we'd recommend to move to item 6.2. 771 01:38:50,580 --> 01:38:55,380 And I believe Mr. Kett would be presenting that item. 772 01:38:57,360 --> 01:39:05,710 Thank you, it's been a busy day here, so thanks Mr. Sofco for getting us arranged here. 773 01:39:06,290 --> 01:39:06,590 Thank you. 774 01:39:08,650 --> 01:39:10,690 So we will go on with 6.2. 775 01:39:17,810 --> 01:39:22,270 Okay, good afternoon, Deputy Mayor Durwin, Council and members of the public. 776 01:39:22,590 --> 01:39:26,470 For the record, my name is Sabrina Kett, and I'm the manager of corporate finance and treasury. 777 01:39:27,570 --> 01:39:30,510 So as recently approved, financial 778 01:39:32,980 --> 01:39:33,480 statements. 779 01:39:33,480 --> 01:39:45,400 We provided a consolidated overview of financial matters, and specifically, we're now here to talk to you about the 2022 capital program and expenditure activity. 780 01:39:46,100 --> 01:40:01,860 So just to recap, in 2022, the consolidated capital budget was 104.6 million, 65 million spent, 33.9 carried forward, 2.4 in restricted funding still available for specific purposes. 781 01:40:01,860 --> 01:40:16,680 and a net 3.2 reserve transfers back to their initial reserves that they came from, net of 9.9 in savings from capital to projects in 2022 and 6.7 in overages. 782 01:40:17,440 --> 01:40:24,640 So today we're seeking three approvals from Council and before I pass it off to our infrastructure services team, we'll just go through them. 783 01:40:25,140 --> 01:40:31,120 We're looking for Council to approve the reallocation of the 2022 capital project savings to overages. 784 01:40:31,120 --> 01:40:35,440 This is more a housekeeping amendment from the previously approved statements. 785 01:40:36,120 --> 01:40:39,180 So within attachment one, you'll find the capital funding summary. 786 01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:43,920 It's a holistic review of the capital funding outcomes post audit, 787 01:40:44,100 --> 01:40:46,280 including the funding remaining for reallocation. 788 01:40:46,980 --> 01:40:52,980 Attachment two, you'll find the reallocation itself towards the projects that required additional funding. 789 01:40:53,540 --> 01:40:58,060 Attachment three is the distributions back to the original reserves and 790 01:40:58,060 --> 01:41:03,900 portion that will be still available in MSI funding to be reallocated to other qualifying projects. 791 01:41:05,320 --> 01:41:12,360 Second, motion before you today is to approve a reallocation of $4.5 million approximately 792 01:41:12,360 --> 01:41:21,140 to fund a capital project that was anticipated in 2024 to 2023 for the range road to 20 township 793 01:41:21,140 --> 01:41:30,840 road 570 to red water in the amount of 4.2 and bridge file 00889 in the amount of 276,885. 794 01:41:30,980 --> 01:41:37,020 This amendment would not increase the overall funding within the 2023 Meltier capital budget. 795 01:41:37,460 --> 01:41:40,320 It's simply a reallocation of funding forward of capital projects. 796 01:41:41,320 --> 01:41:46,960 Finally, that council would uncommit funding in the green and inclusive community buildings 797 01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:52,120 program in the amount of $400,000 for 2023 and 2024 respectively. 798 01:41:52,800 --> 01:42:01,920 So at this time, I'll pass it over to go through some background on the capital program to Mr. Gary Mehu or Mr. Scott McDougall. 799 01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:03,860 Okay. 800 01:42:05,670 --> 01:42:06,720 Thank you, Mr. Duquette. 801 01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:14,500 And I just want to note that this housekeeping amendment and budget request is really a benefit of multi-rebudgeting. 802 01:42:14,500 --> 01:42:20,880 We're not looking at different years that were approved as projects are multi-year in nature all at the same time. 803 01:42:21,300 --> 01:42:24,000 We're combining them, we're creating a plan for this year. 804 01:42:24,640 --> 01:42:29,400 And I think that provides us a very clean starting point to assess our performance on at the end of the year. 805 01:42:30,020 --> 01:42:39,800 And I think that's a great and finance team, particularly is enthusiastic about this just to know and be able to report back to council on the financial matters related to these projects. 806 01:42:40,260 --> 01:42:42,420 I would say this is also a big benefit of teamwork. 807 01:42:42,420 --> 01:42:49,660 This was done working closely with our operational areas, and we were all aligned on this work, bringing this together today, and there was a lot of work that went on behind the scenes. 808 01:42:49,960 --> 01:43:05,420 So again, a big shout out and appreciation to the T&E team, certainly, and the other areas, utilities, community services areas that were contributing this fleet, protective services, we're all involved, and just thanks to all of them. 809 01:43:05,420 --> 01:43:23,500 And lastly, I think the other piece to this is that within our capital budgeting policy that we're working with in our budget here, we're still staying within our means, we're monitoring what we have available as things that just through this process, or there's overages where there's under savings, we're realigning those amounts and then reconsidering what the priorities are which are brought for you today. 810 01:43:23,720 --> 01:43:29,200 So again, very pleased that this has come forward for you today, and it really sets us up, I believe, for success for this year. 811 01:43:31,440 --> 01:43:33,780 Perfect, and thank you, Mr. Hayes, and through the chair. 812 01:43:34,280 --> 01:43:37,940 I just wanted to give a little bit more background information, and as included in the RFD, 813 01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:43,140 talk a little bit about the great work that was completed, and thank Council for the funding of these projects. 814 01:43:43,660 --> 01:43:48,400 We accomplished a lot of work here over the last several years, and specifically when we look at last year, 815 01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:53,100 we had a capital budget of over 104 million that consisted of over 165 projects. 816 01:43:53,840 --> 01:43:58,740 Of that work, we conducted over $65 million worth of expenditures and 817 01:43:58,740 --> 01:44:00,620 in close to 70 projects that were completed, 818 01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:02,160 several others substantially complete 819 01:44:02,160 --> 01:44:03,840 and several others that will be complete this year. 820 01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:06,380 So a tremendous amount of infrastructure work 821 01:44:06,380 --> 01:44:08,900 that has been undertaken within the county, 822 01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:11,200 we're very pleased that our funds 823 01:44:11,200 --> 01:44:12,740 that we're coming to chat with Council today 824 01:44:12,740 --> 01:44:14,360 still stay within the existing budget. 825 01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:16,460 So we're not asking for any additional funding, 826 01:44:16,460 --> 01:44:17,560 we're looking at reallocation. 827 01:44:17,800 --> 01:44:19,560 So several of the projects came in under budget. 828 01:44:20,020 --> 01:44:21,720 We had a few that did come in over budget, 829 01:44:21,900 --> 01:44:24,040 lots of factors last year that we've talked to Council about. 830 01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:27,160 So some inflationary factors, some supply chain issues, 831 01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:31,260 We did have contamination on a couple of other projects that we had to deal with. 832 01:44:31,780 --> 01:44:37,020 We had additional costs on geotech that we had to undertake with some additional soil conditions. 833 01:44:37,660 --> 01:44:40,500 And we've talked to council previously about a couple of these items. 834 01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:44,480 One of the things we did want to highlight is that we are still, as Mr. 835 01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:46,620 Hayes mentioned, still able to stay within our current budget. 836 01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:49,480 And that's one of the things that we're very proud of as a administration and 837 01:44:49,480 --> 01:44:51,820 council from our overall capital expenditure. 838 01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:56,080 So we did provide a list for you of the entire project scopes. 839 01:44:56,660 --> 01:44:59,980 And as mentioned, we're continuing to take learnings from those as 840 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:29,880 We go forward. So in increasing some of our geotech on future projects, increasing some of our potential contingencies when we look at certain projects with unknowns as we go forward, and budgeting accordingly as we move forward. So lots of remediation that we talked about as well. And some of these unknowns, we had doubled the dirt volumes on some of these projects due to soil issues that we had to take into account. So that means you have to take material back in to complete the project. We're continuing to strive for high quality projects 841 01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:34,000 when we get back, so improving our infrastructure that will last and we'll get good life cycle 842 01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:36,980 out of those projects as we continue to go forward. 843 01:45:37,180 --> 01:45:41,780 So a few of the projects, as we talked had, have overages, several had undergirds 844 01:45:41,780 --> 01:45:46,920 and that will be largely in relation to motion one and they will go on to talk about the next 845 01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:49,440 two and then can absolutely take any questions council has. 846 01:45:50,220 --> 01:45:54,240 The Range Road 220 project, one of the benefits of a multi-year budget is we are looking at 847 01:45:54,240 --> 01:45:56,480 taking efficiencies into consideration. 848 01:45:56,880 --> 01:46:06,100 So, when we look at that project originally, we had looked at doing gravel and some of the base work in year one, and then paving in year two, where we're able to now move forward and do the entire project in one year. 849 01:46:06,540 --> 01:46:08,400 So, we'll take efficiencies and gains with that. 850 01:46:08,520 --> 01:46:18,640 We had several community engagements as well, and we are recommending now two advance funds, so no new funds, but advancing funds from 2024 into 2023 so that we can complete that project. 851 01:46:19,260 --> 01:46:26,460 Part of the scope of that project, we are looking at a change of potentially paving juniper, and that will come as a result. 852 01:46:26,460 --> 01:46:30,520 of the tenders that we have out there so as long as pricing allows and there's no new funds, 853 01:46:31,060 --> 01:46:35,280 we believe we can do that within the scope that Council's pretty previously approved in 2023 854 01:46:35,280 --> 01:46:43,760 and 2024. So that's relation into number two. Also as we look at bridge files 00889, so we are 855 01:46:43,760 --> 01:46:49,260 undertaking work on Township Road 564's and approved project this year. Through detailed engineering, 856 01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:55,040 there is a bridge that was contemplated in 2024 and that's a culvert replacement. So because we're 857 01:46:55,040 --> 01:46:58,200 working on that road, at the same time, again, we can take efficiencies and we'll continue 858 01:46:58,200 --> 01:47:01,720 to look at our multi-year budget in that aspect and bring that project forward. 859 01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:06,400 So it's no new funds again, it's just moving approved funds from Council from 2024 into 860 01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:11,520 2023 to couple those two projects together, causing less disruption to residents and gaining 861 01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:13,280 efficiencies on a cost expenditure. 862 01:47:13,960 --> 01:47:18,820 So that largely relates to the two asks of acceleration of 2024 to 2023. 863 01:47:19,480 --> 01:47:24,880 And the third motion, as Mr. Kett mentioned, we're looking to uncommit funding from the 864 01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:27,200 green and inclusive community buildings program. 865 01:47:27,340 --> 01:47:31,040 So that was an item that we brought forward to Council two years ago actually when we 866 01:47:31,040 --> 01:47:33,240 started talking about some potential grant opportunities. 867 01:47:33,780 --> 01:47:39,220 It was earmarking funding, so it's a matching program with the feds and province on how 868 01:47:39,220 --> 01:47:44,000 you can move forward to ultimately construct new publicly accessible community buildings that 869 01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:46,420 serve underserved and high needs communities across Canada. 870 01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:51,400 It is a 40% funding commitment and at this time it's still going to be available in the future. 871 01:47:51,400 --> 01:47:55,740 And as we consider, our greater facilities needs and amenities will be coming back to council 872 01:47:55,740 --> 01:48:00,140 our future date with potential options and other grants, but we have no associated project 873 01:48:00,140 --> 01:48:05,320 for this at this time. So our recommendation is to release those funds and then we can use them 874 01:48:05,320 --> 01:48:10,420 for other items. So it's just releasing it back to reserve that then we can reallocate accordingly 875 01:48:10,420 --> 01:48:15,720 with council's discretion. So that's where we're looking at that third option. Again, very pleased 876 01:48:15,720 --> 01:48:19,900 with the work that's occurred between finance and transportation and the other groups. A lot of work 877 01:48:19,900 --> 01:48:24,260 went into looking at how we can clean up our budget so that we're all on the same page going forward and 878 01:48:24,260 --> 01:48:27,440 then we can track projects accordingly and move forward into 2023. 879 01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:31,760 So, quite excited, open for any questions and myself, Andrew, Sabrina, willing to take them. 880 01:48:31,880 --> 01:48:32,060 Thank you. 881 01:48:34,110 --> 01:48:35,310 Thank you very much for that. 882 01:48:35,730 --> 01:48:37,450 Council on any questions from anybody. 883 01:48:38,210 --> 01:48:38,910 There we go. 884 01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:42,600 Thank you, through the chair. 885 01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:47,660 I just wanted to make a comment by the transition to a multi-year budget. 886 01:48:47,660 --> 01:48:48,760 It's giving us flexibility. 887 01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:56,640 Not only are we doing cost savings as far as any interest that we're having to pay, it's definitely, we're starting to see the benefits. 888 01:48:57,380 --> 01:49:03,900 And by moving this money around, we're still seeing benefits and saving the taxpayers money, so I definitely support this, thank you. 889 01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:11,960 Okay, go ahead, ladies first, council comes. 890 01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:14,980 Thank you, I like this ladies first philosophy, it's beautiful. 891 01:49:15,960 --> 01:49:23,100 You know what, mine is just a comment as well, Diana has commended finance, and I guess everybody I'm working on the three year adventure of a budget here, which is great. 892 01:49:23,100 --> 01:49:51,460 Great. I just wanted to thank transportation. It's a huge testimonial to how accurate and prepared you guys are with all the crazy headwinds between the issues underneath soil, the inflationary rate, people unable to get labor, the fact that we're not over in any of these areas, we're just swapping the round from from project to project kind of thing so happy to see that we're ending up with like a level balance and think that's like I say a testimonial to great planning and great execution. So thank you for that. Thank you for that councilman plan. 893 01:49:56,220 --> 01:50:02,880 I'm wondering if there's any tax implication by moving this forward, by moving the project 894 01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:04,740 from 2024 to 2023. 895 01:50:07,550 --> 01:50:12,430 Through Deputy Mayor to Councilor McLean, directly no. 896 01:50:12,690 --> 01:50:13,810 We're working within our budget. 897 01:50:13,850 --> 01:50:17,570 We're not adding any extra funding or financing through this approval in addition to what was 898 01:50:17,570 --> 01:50:18,510 previously approved. 899 01:50:19,430 --> 01:50:26,990 very broadly our overall capital budget does require a tax input and has tax implications. 900 01:50:27,310 --> 01:50:32,390 So, very broadly, there's tax implications of all our decisions, but things we're not 901 01:50:32,390 --> 01:50:33,690 adding, I would say no. 902 01:50:39,540 --> 01:50:43,340 I see no more questions, so we need somebody to read this into motion. 903 01:50:43,660 --> 01:50:44,360 Go ahead, Councillor Thompson. 904 01:50:46,960 --> 01:50:51,900 Through you, Mr. Chair, that Council approve a reallocation of 2022 capital project savings 905 01:50:51,900 --> 01:51:01,320 It brings in the amount of $9,916,897 to the capital projects listed in Attachment 2 in the amount of $6,691,125. 906 01:51:02,020 --> 01:51:08,260 And the reserves listed in Attachment 3 in the amount of $3,225,772. 907 01:51:09,300 --> 01:51:11,420 Thank you for that, any debate? 908 01:51:14,650 --> 01:51:16,050 No, Councilor Coleman, go ahead. 909 01:51:16,890 --> 01:51:19,730 Thank you, I'm definitely going to support this. 910 01:51:19,730 --> 01:51:40,050 I think this shows that we're being prudent with the money that we have, I think that it also enables us to put it in reserves where if there is a project that comes that really we need to spend a little bit in the beginning to make that project get across the finish line, this is a way to make that occur. 911 01:51:40,410 --> 01:51:42,350 So I definitely will be supporting this. 912 01:51:43,790 --> 01:51:44,550 Thank you. 913 01:51:45,330 --> 01:51:47,190 Myself, I'll definitely be supporting this. 914 01:51:47,290 --> 01:51:51,290 Thank you again, gentlemen, ladies, for bringing this forward. 915 01:51:51,790 --> 01:52:00,430 I mean, 165 projects, overall, and above and below are boundaries. 916 01:52:02,190 --> 01:52:07,790 I mean, the residents of this county can be very proud of these departments working together to save money. 917 01:52:07,790 --> 01:52:14,790 So I think I found a way, though, to help Mr. McClennan with his capital cost. 918 01:52:14,970 --> 01:52:18,770 We can eliminate a bunch of his projects, they'll bring it down to zero. 919 01:52:20,350 --> 01:52:25,710 So just saying, we all work together as a team to make the county a better place. 920 01:52:26,170 --> 01:52:30,670 So as I'm saying, okay, so no more questions, we'll call for the vote. 921 01:52:31,310 --> 01:52:31,950 All those in favor? 922 01:52:33,550 --> 01:52:36,470 An anonymous decision, motion number two, please. 923 01:52:36,470 --> 01:52:44,170 Through you, Mr. Chair, that Council approve the reallocation of $4,476,885 funding from the 2024 capital budget 924 01:52:44,170 --> 01:52:59,410 to the 2023 capital budget for a range road to 20 township road 570 to Redwater in the amount of $4,200,000 and Bridgefile 0800889 township road 564 in the amount of $276,885. 925 01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:20,900 And through you again, Mr. Chair, that Council Uncommit funding for the green and inclusive community buildings program capital project in the amount of $400,000 for 2023 and $400,000 for 2024. 926 01:53:22,600 --> 01:53:29,840 any debate? In a case, all those in favor? Past unanimously. Thank you. 927 01:53:35,060 --> 01:53:35,480 And I think 928 01:53:35,480 --> 01:53:38,480 six point item 6.4 is the final. 929 01:53:43,820 --> 01:53:46,220 We're not giving Scott no break. No, no, no, no, 930 01:53:46,220 --> 01:53:47,440 he has to be able to. Yeah, I know. 931 01:53:52,130 --> 01:53:53,750 We'll have a five minute recess. 932 01:57:28,300 --> 01:57:29,360 Okay, don't maybe use 933 01:57:29,360 --> 01:57:34,040 a big gavel. Let's call the council meeting, regular council meeting, back to order. And 934 01:57:34,040 --> 01:57:37,400 and we'll deal with item, agenda 6.4, 935 01:57:39,490 --> 01:57:40,110 Mr. McDougall. 936 01:57:40,770 --> 01:57:52,290 Thank you, and through the chair, I'm really happy today to present a couple of motions for council considerations surrounding some upgrades to both the County Center Carter Forum as well as the front entrance. 937 01:57:52,910 --> 01:57:58,610 And I did want to walk through a little bit of the background on this file and just open it up for discussion with council. 938 01:57:58,610 --> 01:58:04,090 So, the Sturgeon County Center, we've continued to do minimal renovations through the years 939 01:58:04,090 --> 01:58:08,570 and that's LED lights and other areas through this, some minor painting and different areas 940 01:58:08,570 --> 01:58:09,070 like that. 941 01:58:09,610 --> 01:58:12,730 But we haven't undertaken any major upgrades at the facility. 942 01:58:13,510 --> 01:58:17,730 One of the things I did want you to highlight for a council is we are looking at kind of 943 01:58:17,730 --> 01:58:24,070 a longer term amenity consideration for our facilities and we are looking at some potentials at 944 01:58:24,070 --> 01:58:28,390 this facility, one would be HVAC, and it'd be a major upgrade to the HVAC system. 945 01:58:28,950 --> 01:58:29,850 The other would be the roof. 946 01:58:29,990 --> 01:58:32,890 Those are big items, those would be over a million dollars when we look at that. 947 01:58:32,970 --> 01:58:37,450 So we're looking at more of a longer term amenity, capital asset planning perspective, but 948 01:58:37,450 --> 01:58:41,870 just wanted to make that aware of for council consideration some of the bigger items that we're looking at. 949 01:58:42,550 --> 01:58:47,230 We did have approval back in 2021 under service enhancement firm improvements to the Carter Froom. 950 01:58:47,370 --> 01:58:51,590 And it's one of our main areas that we bring investors into the county and residents and 951 01:58:51,590 --> 01:58:57,050 other. So it's an area that really is one of the first things that those businesses see. 952 01:58:57,330 --> 01:59:00,390 When they come into the county, it's an area that I think everyone agrees we need to do some 953 01:59:00,390 --> 01:59:06,050 improvements to. We've taken a big look and did want to thank our manager of fleet facilities, 954 01:59:06,050 --> 01:59:12,030 Mike Filbrick, who's largely led this up. Taken quite a bit of a scan of some of the other 955 01:59:12,030 --> 01:59:16,030 municipal buildings in our region, so we've seen some of the other counties and some of the buildings 956 01:59:16,030 --> 01:59:20,930 that they have in some of their rooms and are using that to help guide what we could do in our space. 957 01:59:20,930 --> 01:59:23,590 We are limited in some of our space improvements, but there are some options. 958 01:59:24,450 --> 01:59:27,650 So not only have we looked at kind of our own internal needs, but we've looked from an external 959 01:59:27,650 --> 01:59:32,090 perspective, what other municipalities are doing, and have some ideas that we wanted to present 960 01:59:32,090 --> 01:59:32,810 to Council. 961 01:59:33,910 --> 01:59:37,410 There's no shortage, of course, of ideas when we look at options in the space as a limiting 962 01:59:37,410 --> 01:59:39,350 factor, but there are some things that we can do. 963 01:59:40,010 --> 01:59:43,590 And as we go forward, I did break it into kind of five areas for consideration. 964 01:59:44,230 --> 01:59:47,890 And we do have some renderings that we will show as we go through the presentation. 965 01:59:48,430 --> 01:59:53,070 The first area is Carter Froome, so that was the original one that we had looked at doing some improvements there. 966 01:59:53,590 --> 01:59:58,590 The second is the front reception, and the front reception is both looking at how we expand both of our P&D. 967 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:06,760 P&D area, how we improve kind of the front area, and what we can do from that aspect. The third is the 968 02:00:06,760 --> 02:00:10,860 service last-a-a-v room, so that's kind of the room that puts you to 969 02:00:13,130 --> 02:00:15,110 actually do there to open up 970 02:00:15,110 --> 02:00:20,590 some space and improve the access between both of these rooms as well as public access as well. 971 02:00:21,150 --> 02:00:26,010 The fourth is the public washroom space, so that's the largely outside of the main council chamber doors, 972 02:00:26,010 --> 02:00:30,650 and those are the washrooms largely for public use, and we want to make some improvements to those 973 02:00:30,650 --> 02:00:33,790 both barrier-free and some other areas to assist the public. 974 02:00:34,410 --> 02:00:35,530 The fifth is the screening room. 975 02:00:35,650 --> 02:00:39,370 So we did look at some options about potentially looking at additional screening in the area. 976 02:00:39,750 --> 02:00:43,850 We're not recommending that at this time, but did want to include that for Council consideration 977 02:00:43,850 --> 02:00:45,270 as we go forward. 978 02:00:46,290 --> 02:00:48,430 So each one of these areas has different costs. 979 02:00:48,890 --> 02:00:53,170 And just on the screen, you can see that there are a couple different renderings that we have 980 02:00:53,170 --> 02:00:54,130 included in the package. 981 02:00:54,770 --> 02:00:58,050 Carter Froome as a whole, we would be changing some of the wall structure. 982 02:00:58,050 --> 02:01:04,470 So we'd actually gain room. We're looking at gaining probably three feet on one side and and we have to do some additional electrical work 983 02:01:04,470 --> 02:01:08,470 So we have electrical issues that we need to deal with where we have cords and extensions and a bunch of different things 984 02:01:08,470 --> 02:01:12,550 So we will address that within this you want to have cords on the floors anymore and things like that 985 02:01:12,550 --> 02:01:16,070 We are looking at a frosted kind of open glass. So it's a switch 986 02:01:16,070 --> 02:01:24,550 So you have an open more of an open conceptual feel and it can be closed closed down for more closed-session kind of meetings and private confidential 987 02:01:25,250 --> 02:01:32,650 But it is an upgrade, the furniture will be upgraded, the flooring will be upgraded, the walls will be upgraded, and roof upgraded as we go forward. 988 02:01:32,910 --> 02:01:35,990 So that was one of the initial things we looked at. 989 02:01:36,270 --> 02:01:40,490 The front reception area, when we look at that, we are looking at a couple different things. 990 02:01:40,670 --> 02:01:42,470 So it'll extend into the P&D area. 991 02:01:42,470 --> 02:01:44,130 We're looking at more of a multi-phase thing. 992 02:01:44,210 --> 02:01:47,610 So we will future-proof the design, pending on costing that comes in. 993 02:01:48,110 --> 02:01:52,730 We do want to enhance the experience for residents that they come in as from a P&D perspective as well. 994 02:01:52,730 --> 02:01:56,210 also extending the counters moving into the P&D area, 995 02:01:56,870 --> 02:01:59,610 there'll be some more improvements as we go forward with this. 996 02:01:59,730 --> 02:02:01,650 So this is just a rendering, just a conceptual plan 997 02:02:01,650 --> 02:02:03,310 that we're looking at going over tender with. 998 02:02:03,910 --> 02:02:05,290 Obviously on tendering pricing, 999 02:02:05,490 --> 02:02:06,790 it may allow us to do different things, 1000 02:02:06,790 --> 02:02:09,050 expand that area as we go forward. 1001 02:02:09,150 --> 02:02:11,210 So just some initial renderings. 1002 02:02:11,710 --> 02:02:14,030 The public washrooms that I did mention at the front 1003 02:02:14,030 --> 02:02:15,370 and we can go through that in the schematic 1004 02:02:15,950 --> 02:02:19,450 was a different area that we looked at, 1005 02:02:19,450 --> 02:02:34,370 really looking at barrier-free opportunities, really updating it for handicap access and mobility issues as well as just improving an overall experience for residents in a very cramped spaces right now and want to look at how we improve the overall structure. 1006 02:02:35,010 --> 02:02:46,450 We did look at all of these to be undertaken pending council approvals to go inside with council break so to really look at at least disruption as possible. 1007 02:02:46,450 --> 02:02:53,810 not guaranteed they can all fit in there pending on Council availability and different scoping, but looking at some of those options as we go forward. 1008 02:02:54,050 --> 02:02:59,370 So on the renderings, you can't quite see it, but we would remove some of the curvature the wall would extend out. 1009 02:03:00,050 --> 02:03:05,570 The other thing we are looking at doing is improving security, and that's one of the things from different scans that we've had in our area. 1010 02:03:06,130 --> 02:03:09,110 That it is possible to move through different doors and things at the county. 1011 02:03:09,630 --> 02:03:15,570 So we would be putting swipe cards effectively on those main doors and ensuring that security 1012 02:03:15,570 --> 02:03:20,530 is at the forefront and I think very important when we look at society and resident needs 1013 02:03:20,530 --> 02:03:24,690 and public needs right now. So security is an absolutely a part of this study as well. 1014 02:03:25,290 --> 02:03:30,470 We are recommending a few different cost items for council consideration. We do have some 1015 02:03:30,470 --> 02:03:35,690 funding available when we looked at available budget for the upgrade. So we do have Carter 1016 02:03:35,690 --> 02:03:41,450 Freeman security improvements previously approved at 136,000. We do have our building accessibility 1017 02:03:41,450 --> 02:03:46,890 ability reserve at 200,000 and we do have 10,000 earmarked for security system upgrades. 1018 02:03:47,970 --> 02:03:52,530 So largely we have $346,000 associated to these kind of upgrades currently. 1019 02:03:52,950 --> 02:03:55,110 And we can proceed with that if that's council's direction. 1020 02:03:55,670 --> 02:03:59,290 Largely would be Carter Froome and some smaller areas and we'd phase over time. 1021 02:03:59,830 --> 02:04:02,850 The other option for consideration is to look at additional funding. 1022 02:04:03,830 --> 02:04:09,030 We do believe in what I've requested and this is an additional up to not take C300,000 and 1023 02:04:09,030 --> 02:04:13,770 And that would allow us to undertake the majority of this work, pending contractor availability 1024 02:04:13,770 --> 02:04:15,530 and pending tender results through this. 1025 02:04:15,950 --> 02:04:21,010 We would look at continuing to improve this and continuing to look at potential additional 1026 02:04:21,010 --> 02:04:25,450 improvements in future years for phased improvements for both the P&D area and others. 1027 02:04:25,730 --> 02:04:29,190 So it does give us a good base, it gives us a good start on what we can do. 1028 02:04:29,630 --> 02:04:33,590 Priorities obviously with the Carter-Froom and Front Reception would be where we would start, 1029 02:04:34,170 --> 02:04:37,790 but did want to give counsel the opportunity to look at some of the potential renderings and 1030 02:04:37,790 --> 02:04:40,510 and some of the potential options as we go for. 1031 02:04:40,650 --> 02:04:42,390 But largely gaining more space in Carterfruim 1032 02:04:42,390 --> 02:04:45,370 will be the focus and improving that access 1033 02:04:45,370 --> 02:04:46,810 as well as the front counters during 1034 02:04:46,810 --> 02:04:48,650 to work on some improvements there. 1035 02:04:49,230 --> 02:04:50,250 So maybe I'll stop there, Council, 1036 02:04:50,450 --> 02:04:52,990 and open to any questions you may have. 1037 02:04:53,310 --> 02:04:53,490 Thank you. 1038 02:04:56,280 --> 02:04:57,740 Okay, so we have a bunch of questions. 1039 02:04:58,140 --> 02:04:59,460 Councilor, I'll stay and go ahead. 1040 02:05:00,920 --> 02:05:01,980 Thank you, through the chair. 1041 02:05:02,400 --> 02:05:04,460 So you mentioned the age-vex system. 1042 02:05:05,540 --> 02:05:08,660 I know personally we've had more and more 1043 02:05:08,660 --> 02:05:14,380 Or crime watch meetings there, and we've been meeting after hours there, and the heat in that room is unbearable. 1044 02:05:14,880 --> 02:05:17,900 Like we had our protective services gentleman just literally dripping. 1045 02:05:18,440 --> 02:05:27,340 Is there some way within this budget that something can be a quick fix before the full HVAC system is replaced, or changed? 1046 02:05:27,860 --> 02:05:30,840 But is that accounted for in this funding request? 1047 02:05:31,240 --> 02:05:33,260 Thank you, and through the Chair to the Councillor staying. 1048 02:05:33,700 --> 02:05:36,940 Not specifically in this, but it is an item that we're looking at. 1049 02:05:36,940 --> 02:05:42,620 So there's different settings on different times of the night that we can adjust and there is inter settings that the team is looking at right now 1050 02:05:42,620 --> 02:05:47,940 We have actually installed monitors as well through our HVAC system to see where we can focus in on some of those improvements 1051 02:05:47,940 --> 02:05:56,200 Through our normal building operating plan. We do have some of those when I reference kind of that that bigger item is an HVAC system 1052 02:05:56,200 --> 02:06:01,840 At some point we would want to suggest to counsel major amenity changes if the overall decision was to 1053 02:06:01,840 --> 02:06:04,280 to continue to utilize the Sturgeon County Center. 1054 02:06:04,820 --> 02:06:13,560 Those would be future obviously to look at, but there are some internal things that we can do to address those concerns, and we've heard those from other areas as well in the building, so absolutely we'll take that away. 1055 02:06:15,710 --> 02:06:19,270 Thank you. Who else right here, okay? Go ahead, Councilor. 1056 02:06:19,370 --> 02:06:22,270 Thanks, through you, Mr. Chair, I just wanted to be originally looked at this. 1057 02:06:22,370 --> 02:06:32,410 I remember we were also looking at having potentially other venues around which was kind of in the back of my mind, I know when we were thinking about this, and I am terrible at spatial estimation. 1058 02:06:32,410 --> 02:06:35,130 Is there any other room, like, is there more than three feet? 1059 02:06:35,270 --> 02:06:38,530 We could put into the carter room because now we're not looking at having a board room 1060 02:06:38,530 --> 02:06:43,890 off-site and that room is way too small for everything from having visitors to some board 1061 02:06:43,890 --> 02:06:44,170 meetings. 1062 02:06:44,390 --> 02:06:48,590 So I'm not sure if there's any shifting we could do to make it even larger with the idea 1063 02:06:48,590 --> 02:06:51,790 that we may not have any more off-site facilities like that. 1064 02:06:52,870 --> 02:06:53,290 Thanks. 1065 02:06:53,370 --> 02:06:56,330 Through the Chair to Councillor Thompson, maybe I'll answer it in a couple different ways. 1066 02:06:57,230 --> 02:07:00,770 It's actually, when we look at the overall expenditure, it's more than three feet. 1067 02:07:00,770 --> 02:07:03,750 we're looking at potentially the front reception and shifting through there. 1068 02:07:03,990 --> 02:07:08,090 So we're moving some walls around that should give us, I believe it's about 150 square feet 1069 02:07:08,090 --> 02:07:12,270 addition in that area. So it'll, it'll, it sounds like a little, but it's actually going to be 1070 02:07:12,270 --> 02:07:17,190 quite a lot from what we're used to. Amenities as a whole is a item that we will be talking to counsel 1071 02:07:17,190 --> 02:07:22,510 at in future about other options. And as we continue to, to, to expand and look at those, we'll have to 1072 02:07:22,510 --> 02:07:26,870 have other considerations of space. We are limited, but it is an item that we'll be talking to counsel 1073 02:07:26,870 --> 02:07:31,030 about in the future for that, but there is some additional space within cartofil. 1074 02:07:32,410 --> 02:07:33,290 Councillor Cuomo. 1075 02:07:33,990 --> 02:07:39,650 Just to confirm that we're going to be looking through FCM Green Municipal Fund, low-flushtoilates, 1076 02:07:39,770 --> 02:07:44,090 the lighting, et cetera, looking at accessing funding from there as well as the possibility. 1077 02:07:44,950 --> 02:07:47,630 And through the Chair to Councillor Cuomo, 100%. 1078 02:07:47,630 --> 02:07:51,990 So Brennan-Sanmeyer or municipal energy specialist is absolutely focusing on that and we're in 1079 02:07:51,990 --> 02:07:54,750 and a combination with finance right now. 1080 02:07:54,890 --> 02:07:56,610 So hopefully we were able to get some of those grants 1081 02:07:56,610 --> 02:07:57,210 and move forward. 1082 02:07:57,410 --> 02:07:58,430 Lots of great potential. 1083 02:07:59,190 --> 02:08:00,970 We're moving forward on, like I mentioned, 1084 02:08:01,110 --> 02:08:02,690 some of the other ones with LED change outs 1085 02:08:02,690 --> 02:08:05,910 in different green energy topics that we can move forward, 1086 02:08:05,990 --> 02:08:07,430 but we will chase every one of those that we can. 1087 02:08:08,210 --> 02:08:12,890 And my next question is in regards to the drawing 1088 02:08:12,890 --> 02:08:14,770 that was up there, and you had TVs above 1089 02:08:15,330 --> 02:08:17,330 in the front lobby reception area. 1090 02:08:17,850 --> 02:08:20,510 Would we be looking at, and I look at it from the standpoint 1091 02:08:20,510 --> 02:08:23,790 that that's a way to advertise what we have coming up, whether it be County Bounty, 1092 02:08:24,630 --> 02:08:29,330 a meeting of sorts for just the general public that comes in, they can actually see on those TVs 1093 02:08:29,330 --> 02:08:33,450 what's coming up within the county. And through the Chair to Councillor Komo, 1094 02:08:33,870 --> 02:08:37,450 that was one of the ideas that came from kind of our environmental scan as well in the region, 1095 02:08:37,610 --> 02:08:41,150 several other municipalities do something very similar where they have TVs up and 1096 02:08:41,150 --> 02:08:44,670 something that we'd absolutely work with our IT group on going forward. So we did want to hear 1097 02:08:44,670 --> 02:08:49,050 mark that as as a potential item when we go for tender on how we can look at those opportunities, 1098 02:08:49,050 --> 02:08:53,230 but great opportunity to highlight the county and different things that are happening to residents. 1099 02:08:54,330 --> 02:08:55,250 Perfect, thank you. 1100 02:08:56,970 --> 02:09:00,600 Matthew, go ahead and clean that up. 1101 02:09:00,600 --> 02:09:01,720 Thank you, through the chair. 1102 02:09:02,820 --> 02:09:06,100 Can you tell me what year this building was built? 1103 02:09:10,800 --> 02:09:14,140 Through the chair of the councilman, and I had it, and I don't know if I still do it. 1104 02:09:15,120 --> 02:09:19,380 We're original, the county built the building originally, so we're original tenants of it. 1105 02:09:19,700 --> 02:09:20,500 We own the building. 1106 02:09:20,800 --> 02:09:23,280 I'd have to get the exact date for you, I can't remember off the top of my head. 1107 02:09:23,280 --> 02:09:24,660 I think it's 96. 1108 02:09:27,360 --> 02:09:30,940 It's on the plaque right on the front, I think it's 96. 1109 02:09:32,080 --> 02:09:42,900 Okay, and then my next question would be, is this to be done in conjunction with further expansion of our facilities? 1110 02:09:43,300 --> 02:09:50,700 And the directly kind of what I'm getting at is we've got the egg services department and we've got some things spread out. 1111 02:09:50,700 --> 02:09:56,020 Does it make more sense to build a new building than to renovate this one? 1112 02:09:58,810 --> 02:10:03,810 Thanks, and through the chair, I'll just confirm the first one was 1994, was the date. 1113 02:10:05,970 --> 02:10:22,790 Different amenity question, I think one of the items that administration is going to come back to council with is more of a generalized talk on amenities and when we look at expansion into different areas, whether it's the valley, the heartland and others, there's lots of opportunities to look at, whether it's public works yards, community asset buildings, rack facilities and others. 1114 02:10:22,790 --> 02:10:25,510 So we will be coming back to council with more discussions on that. 1115 02:10:26,010 --> 02:10:28,030 There's expansion opportunities at this facility. 1116 02:10:28,210 --> 02:10:35,150 There's different areas that we see from a siloed to a more of a brought together group. 1117 02:10:35,270 --> 02:10:37,650 So lots of opportunities for council decision in the future. 1118 02:10:37,870 --> 02:10:41,690 We're going to be coming back as I mentioned with more of a holistic presentation to council on that. 1119 02:10:42,230 --> 02:10:47,150 When we look at the Carter Froome and some of these initial upgrades, I think they're more of an immediate need. 1120 02:10:47,150 --> 02:10:51,210 When we look at that, there's the future state and the future discussions. 1121 02:10:51,210 --> 02:10:56,350 but as we continue to work through investors and bringing other key people into the county, 1122 02:10:56,390 --> 02:11:01,030 and this is one of the first areas they see, definitely something for consideration from a future 1123 02:11:01,030 --> 02:11:02,470 state as well, though, when we go forward. 1124 02:11:04,950 --> 02:11:07,230 Councillor Stang. Thank you, through the chair. 1125 02:11:07,490 --> 02:11:12,110 So I'm going to go back to the recommendation from Councillor Como in the sense of the grant money 1126 02:11:12,110 --> 02:11:18,250 through FCM or any of those opportunities. Would that change the scope of the project? Would it increase? 1127 02:11:18,570 --> 02:11:22,350 Would we add more to it? Can you just maybe talk about that one? 1128 02:11:22,350 --> 02:11:49,890 Sure, and through the Chair to Councillor Stang, one of the things that we continue to look at all grant opportunities, whether it's this kind of project or others, if we're successful in achieving some grant opportunities, there's two options, one would be to reduce the overall expenditure, one would be to look at advancing some of the scope though as well, and we've talked about improvements into the P&D area and other areas for expanding that resident experience as well as looking at upgrades to the building and other items, so we would bring that information back to council if we're successful on those type of items. 1129 02:11:50,450 --> 02:11:55,230 largely the scope on this is fairly small when we look at kind of what we're looking at and really just the 1130 02:11:55,230 --> 02:12:00,490 card of room and front reception so it could be a small scope extension but it wouldn't be something that would be a 1131 02:12:00,490 --> 02:12:01,670 significant or fundamental change. 1132 02:12:03,370 --> 02:12:05,410 Thank you. Any other questions? 1133 02:12:07,430 --> 02:12:12,110 Okay then that be in the case so we need somebody to read the motion and get into debate. 1134 02:12:14,250 --> 02:12:18,030 Thank you through the chair that council approve the proposed renovation design and 1135 02:12:18,030 --> 02:12:19,910 an associated budget for the Sturgeon County Center, 1136 02:12:20,350 --> 02:12:21,770 Cardiff Room and Front Reception. 1137 02:12:26,190 --> 02:12:27,330 Thank you, through Chair. 1138 02:12:28,050 --> 02:12:30,850 I'm gonna definitely be supporting this. 1139 02:12:31,250 --> 02:12:33,710 I look at this as the first phase 1140 02:12:33,710 --> 02:12:36,650 of a little bit of a facelift on the county building 1141 02:12:36,650 --> 02:12:38,470 from 1994 to now. 1142 02:12:39,590 --> 02:12:42,290 I think that there are other rooms we could look at. 1143 02:12:42,390 --> 02:12:44,130 I think the Coronado Room is another one. 1144 02:12:45,230 --> 02:12:48,590 If you talk about needing a bigger meeting room, 1145 02:12:49,350 --> 02:12:51,450 you can go out from the Coronado Room 1146 02:12:51,450 --> 02:12:54,130 And they create a bigger room back there. 1147 02:12:54,870 --> 02:12:58,870 There's other things that in my mind I could see, but definitely will support this moving forward. 1148 02:12:59,390 --> 02:13:05,070 And in regards to the front reception, making it brighter, 1149 02:13:05,470 --> 02:13:08,990 the blue color, the new logo, everything, I think it helps shape 1150 02:13:08,990 --> 02:13:14,170 our future moving forward to show what an outstanding organization we can be. 1151 02:13:14,590 --> 02:13:15,750 We are and can be. 1152 02:13:16,130 --> 02:13:16,670 Thank you for that. 1153 02:13:17,550 --> 02:13:18,530 Anybody else any questions? 1154 02:13:18,530 --> 02:13:20,950 times the bait, sorry, come on. 1155 02:13:21,850 --> 02:13:23,170 Thank you, through chair. 1156 02:13:24,010 --> 02:13:25,210 I won't support this one. 1157 02:13:25,490 --> 02:13:33,590 I do agree that there has to be some consideration into where we're going to build buildings, 1158 02:13:33,810 --> 02:13:39,850 where we're going to conduct our meetings or visit with investors. 1159 02:13:40,330 --> 02:13:45,690 I would be more in favor of the alternative too, which would be to delay the card of room and 1160 02:13:45,690 --> 02:13:47,770 and front reception renovations with consideration 1161 02:13:47,770 --> 02:13:49,430 of future facility requirements, 1162 02:13:49,930 --> 02:13:52,010 including but not limited to improvements 1163 02:13:52,010 --> 02:13:54,350 to council chambers, additional upgrades, 1164 02:13:54,530 --> 02:13:56,830 expansions and relocation considerations. 1165 02:13:57,230 --> 02:14:01,590 I just think that we need to actually go quite a bit bigger. 1166 02:14:02,170 --> 02:14:02,410 Thank you. 1167 02:14:05,120 --> 02:14:06,080 Thank you for that. 1168 02:14:06,300 --> 02:14:07,240 Just a comment myself. 1169 02:14:07,380 --> 02:14:08,420 I'm going to support this. 1170 02:14:09,140 --> 02:14:10,180 You know, something we just came out 1171 02:14:10,180 --> 02:14:12,540 when I was elected five, six years ago, 1172 02:14:17,240 --> 02:14:20,500 110 million dollar county campus 1173 02:14:20,500 --> 02:14:26,400 was going to be built. So we've advanced ahead and we're going to be spending approximately 1174 02:14:26,400 --> 02:14:33,460 300,000 here. So I'm going to support that. I mean, staffing, staffing is definitely 1175 02:14:33,460 --> 02:14:41,780 different. The world's changed as far as working at home and doing that. And you're just 1176 02:14:41,780 --> 02:14:46,620 seeing your time schedules and what I'm trying to say. So I'm going to support this. Thank 1177 02:14:46,620 --> 02:14:46,820 Thank you. 1178 02:14:48,200 --> 02:14:49,220 Any other comments? 1179 02:14:50,740 --> 02:14:53,000 If not, call for the vote. 1180 02:14:53,740 --> 02:14:54,480 All those in favor. 1181 02:14:56,580 --> 02:14:58,400 We've got five and all those opposed. 1182 02:14:59,260 --> 02:14:59,800 And one opposed. 1183 02:15:00,880 --> 02:15:26,180 Thank you. So that brings us to the next motion. Oh, there's one more. I'm trying to get out here. I'm trying to just eliminate this. No. Next motion, please. Thank you. Thank you. Through the chair, that Council will prove an increase to the Sturgeon County Center, Cardiff Room and Front Reception Renovation Budget in an amount of not to exceed 300,000 funded from the Community Building Priority Reserve. Any debate? 1184 02:15:28,600 --> 02:15:31,080 Council Como. So, yes, I'm definitely good. 1185 02:15:31,080 --> 02:15:43,740 Excuse me, I'm going to be supporting this, and I think Councillor Stang, this is where FCM Green Municipal Funding, et cetera, will come into play, instead of spending 300,000 if we get a grant, it might only be 200,000. 1186 02:15:43,940 --> 02:15:51,260 So, definitely we'll support this and look to the team to try and get every grant possible, if it all possible. 1187 02:15:54,340 --> 02:15:56,020 Thank you. Any other debate? 1188 02:15:57,780 --> 02:15:59,760 Call the question. All those in favour? 1189 02:16:02,780 --> 02:16:05,360 And all those opposed? One opposed, five in favour. 1190 02:16:05,800 --> 02:16:06,100 Thank you. 1191 02:16:08,290 --> 02:16:10,290 Now this takes us to the end of our meeting. 1192 02:16:11,990 --> 02:16:12,770 Councillor Como. 1193 02:16:13,610 --> 02:16:14,270 Do you have something to say? 1194 02:16:15,070 --> 02:16:15,750 Motion to a jet. 1195 02:16:16,090 --> 02:16:16,610 There we go. 1196 02:16:18,410 --> 02:16:19,630 We're not the vote man. Do we? 1197 02:16:19,770 --> 02:16:19,790 Yes. 1198 02:16:20,430 --> 02:16:21,670 All those in favour, please? 1199 02:16:21,930 --> 02:16:22,610 Maybe Jazz House. 1200 02:16:22,630 --> 02:16:23,030 There we go. 1201 02:16:23,850 --> 02:16:23,930 No. 1202 02:16:24,890 --> 02:16:25,870 Thank you very much. 1203 02:16:26,750 --> 02:16:28,190 Thanks for helping me today, guys.