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All right, then. With that, it being 731, we will open the Planning Board meeting, the town of Sudbury, for Wednesday, September 23rd, 2026, pursuant to chapter 2 of the Acts of 2025. This meeting will be conducted via remote means, members of the public who wish to access the meeting may do so in the following manner by clicking on the link, located on the agenda, on the Planning Board website, or for audio only by calling in.

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and to the number and meeting ID listed on the agenda.

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No, in person attendance of members of the public will be permitted

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and public participation in any public hearing conducted during this meeting

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should be by remote means only.

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And we will take a roll call of planning board members, participants.

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I need to shut off, President.

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Julie Pralman, President.

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Kirsten, Repending and President.

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And John Sugar, President.

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Okay, our first item, 730, continued public hearing for a scenic road, tree removal from

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ever-sourced along Congress Road, Clinton Road, Candy Hill Road and Water Road, who is here

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for the applicant.

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That would be me, can you hear me?

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Yes.

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Excellent.

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Just give your address for the records, Lou.

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Yep.

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Matthew Mitchell, Arborist with EverSourced.

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address would be 247 station drive westwood for my office.

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We'll do a little

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bit.

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Close up the PowerPoint.

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All right.

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Do you all see a map?

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Yes.

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Perfect.

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And so just as a quick recap.

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I'm following up with my storm resiliency project, which is meant to reduce outages and road

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blockages during major storm events, the difference between our regular clearance and this storm

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clearance is the regular clearance is 10 feet to the sides and below the primary wires, which are

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limbs of significant size, or then that overhead, tend to be grandfathered in.

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The resilient C-tree work or the storm, resilient C-clearance is 15 feet to the sides

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and below the wires, and 25 feet overhead, generally limbs of significant size are not grandfathered

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in, unless removing those with brake standard, or bore a cultural, breeding practices.

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At the last meeting, we approved a phase one of the projects, which was to prune a set

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the prune a section of Concord and Water Row, as well as getting approval for 23, potentially

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hazardous trees. And just as a note, the paperwork says that it's on one of the roads

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Candy Hill and leaves out pantry, but the road, this project does not include Candy Hill and runs

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from Petri where it comes off a Concord up to Route 117.

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And I have some photos for you guys

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of the work. So we're going to start with the Rotterrow. Waterrow is complete. Concord Street

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is around halfway done.

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On the left I'm going to have photos of

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of my before pictures and on the right.

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I'm going to have photos of what it looks like now.

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So on the left you can see there's an overhang over here

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and on the right we've cleared some of it out.

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I think this looks pretty good.

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Not a lot of work going on in this one.

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And we're starting at the bottom of the bottom row, the south part, where it comes off of, I think we're 27, and heading northwards.

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So this is another photo.

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So the main work done was this bit of overhanging growth over here.

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On the right, you can see we've pruned it out, getting all the overhead.

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and the storm clearance is 15 by 15 by 25. Generally we're emphasizing that overhead clearance.

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We're not necessarily getting that 15 feet to the sides all the time, but we are trying to get the 25 feet where we can.

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Continuing to head northwards, you can see on the left, these lower limbs that have been there since before.

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And we pruned off some of the lower ones to increase that overhead clearance,

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jumping up a bit or now facing northwards, and the main work that happened here is these limbs coming in from across the street that had not been pruned back in previous cycles over here, you can see we pruned it back to the main stem.

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And one thing I want to showcase for you guys is that we are getting sort of that lower layer of tree limbs,

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but we are still maintaining canopy over the road.

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So I think that we are hitting a sweet spot between the aesthetic value of the road,

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and getting that additional clearance for reliability and general public safety.

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So here on the left is this is a little confusing because the photo on the left is facing south and the photo on the right is facing north.

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The photo on the left you can see this is dead tree.

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I did not ask for permission to remove it because I thought we could prune it in a way where we can just

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sort of get the top off and the way that this guy's leaning he's just going to fall off into the woods.

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standing. Dead trees are a very valuable ecological resource. And the other thing to point out for this one is these lower limbs.

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Got pruned back to this main stem here. It's kind of hard to see with the background foliage.

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But on my next slide.

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It's kind of hard to see what we did get these lower limbs and the clearance here.

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I think it's fairly good.

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There's a photo coming up that will show it.

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But the next photo is the Undergrowth,

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which is the other part of this project

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that we talked about.

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So on the left is what it looked like

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before my contractor went through

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and then on the right is post-flat cutting.

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You can see that the stone wall is now visible.

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It was not visible earlier.

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And we did get, we did increase this over edge clearance. But again, that overhanging canopy for the road in general is still there.

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And this is the one. So this is a photo of the same work, but facing the other direction. This is that tree I was talking about two slides ago where we got that overhang.

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And another thing that is useful, I think, is that we have increased the visibility around this road bend.

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Not huge amount, because a lot of it is from the slope, but I think looking here, you can see through pretty well.

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And it is a pretty sharp curve.

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Now, these cut undergrowth, they are going to sprout back in the future.

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But now that we've established this clearance,

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I think it's something that we can maintain every four years

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before they grow up in the big trees.

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And sort of we can be cutting back to this.

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Every time we go through this circuit now,

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if you guys are okay with that.

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And I think that is for water row.

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We did not get any complaints calling into ever source about the work.

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Um, the person immediately to the right of where the picture was, uh, did come out to the cruise and asked for, uh, not increased clearance, uh, which we were fine doing.

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Um, but overall, um, for water row, uh, we have not had, uh, that I'm aware of anyone calling in, um,

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disapproving of the work.

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Now, off to Concord, this is just north of that parking lot.

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This is a private maple on the left.

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And on the right you can see that we got that side clearance and the clearance below,

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as well as the clearance above.

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And I think that this looks pretty good.

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Continuing to head north on the left is a photo of me almost getting runover.

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But we see that this the wire is coming in through here pretty close to the lines and then we got this good side clearance over here. We got some good overhang and again it's not really in my opinion impacting the overall aesthetic of the road.

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This is where the flat cutting section for conquered road began not a lot was going on here.

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A lot of the stuff coming out of here was smaller woody stuff, very young trees, but we got what we could.

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I think it looks a bit better.

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And the other thing worth noting for this one is this declining tree over here.

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We did get the overhang out of it, so there's no longer any of it leaning over the sidewalk in the road.

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And here is my before photo of the Lincoln Subbury Regional High School,

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which is one of the places that we stopped at to take a look during our field visit.

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These are both before photos, just take in a few pole spans apart from each other.

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So you can see there's some growth coming in from the side on both sides.

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We got this undergrowth over here, and this is what it looks like now.

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On the left you can see we got that side clearance, we got a lot of clearance over here.

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We had a lot of buy-in from the school, they were very supportive of this project.

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a lot of this clearance came from trees that were not within the road layout, but I think

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it's still worth looking at. And then on the right, for those of us who were out at the

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field visit, remember how overgrown this section was, it was really getting into like the

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head, like it was really growing in like the head height of the walkway. This is now very

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open and much more visible.

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So that's the work that's been done so far.

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Concord Road is about halfway done.

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What is left to do is the remainder of Concord,

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Hanch, and Hanchry, and Plimpton.

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I don't think there's much heavy work going on in Pantry

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and the rest of Concord beyond the tree

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and movesals that were already approved,

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where the work is going to be heaviest would be plugged in.

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And I think somebody at the last meeting asked me some questions

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about the overhang on Plumton that I didn't have very good answers for.

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So I went through into a few photos to show you guys what it looks like currently.

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So these are just kind of randomly taken along Plumton in areas I thought

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showed the very different things going on.

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I would say that the majority of the overhang is between is under 10 inches, a lot of it's going to be between like 4 to 8, 4 to 10 inches.

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There's only a few instances where we're starting to look at limbs that are larger.

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So for those three on the left, we'd probably cut back to here where there's a lateral limb growing up.

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That's a healthy cut that the tree can heal quickly and effectively with.

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But here on the right, I mean, it's just going to be a lot of pruning back smaller growth.

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It's just going to be pruning back to a larger clearance than what we've gotten,

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but a lot of the limbs aren't necessarily going to be that big.

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And some more photos, again, this sky over here.

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We just be taking out these lower limbs and none of them are particularly large.

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Same thing with these oaks over here.

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So there are, I think Plimpton can be described as there's a lot of overhang, but not a lot of it is large diameter.

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It's a lot of volume of leaves and branches, but I don't think there will be that many big cuts.

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But one thing I wanted to point out is this oak on the right.

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So I did not include this oak in my initial list of proposed tree removal because it's a really big oak.

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I didn't think it would be successful in getting it taken down, although I think there are definitely some health concerns going on with it.

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But another reason I didn't include is that if you look at the way the stem is going that the canopy is going, this guy is leaning out into the woods.

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He's also got some health defects, so there's a big cavity at the base, some out damage from

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winter months, and then there's a cavity in the midstem, which on the main tree photo would

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be right here.

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What I would like to do with this oak is to prune out all the overhang, so that would be this

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big stem here, all the stuff coming off of this stem that's curving back over, and what this

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going to do is take out all of the canopy that would be leaning out under the road so that this

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tree can do whatever nature wants it to, if slash when it does fail it's going to go off into the

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woods and by not removing it outright like I mentioned earlier, standing decomposing trees are

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valuable wildlife resource.

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So this is not one that I really wanted to remove that right, but

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the wood has significant work going on with it. If we bring it to the way that I'm thinking,

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that's about it.

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So we will go to staff and then the board and then after that, if anyone from the public wants to speak, it's like it's Adam.

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Yeah, no, thank you for all this information. I think it's helpful. I'll correct the approval. I don't know why I put candy hell instead of pantry. I must have had my map upside down when I was thinking about it.

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I went out and visited both sites and I had reached out to Matthew to make sure that the

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work had been done and he assured me that they at least don't want to row and I went

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out there and I had a really hard time telling when I drove down the road.

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So I think seeing the side by side pictures was really helpful.

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It was a little more evident because I drove by while they had half the road block today

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conquered road, but you could also see the guardrail wasn't being eaten by plants, but I don't

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from my perspective, it didn't appear that there was a significant change to the road or the

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quality of vegetation or amount of vegetation visible from the road. I don't have any technical

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information. I mean, trees are green. That's about as much as I can give you. So I'll all end it there.

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Right, we'll go through them board a new.

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Thank you, John.

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Thank you, John.

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Yeah.

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Thank you to Matthew for the photos and the explanation.

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I think this was very conscientiously done.

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It looks like regular kind of landscape maintenance, which I think some of these areas desperately needed.

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And it doesn't necessarily look like a power power line.

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I dictated maintenance, so I think it looks great and I'm flying with Mr.

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Mitchell's

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I'm blanking on words.

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What do we want to do on that large oak?

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And that's all, I think it looks great.

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But see you Julie,

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one question for Adam, no comments where we see from neighbors or anything.

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I'm assuming.

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No, we did receive a public records request for the submission and the approval that was issued.

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I think that went out either yesterday afternoon or early this morning, probably within 48 or 72 hours of us getting it.

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but no one's reached out to the office to make any comment questions or otherwise.

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Okay. I mean, I agree. I think that it looks really good. I think that proposal, you know,

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seems like more of the same.

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And as long as in the neighbors are,

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of an arm, say, seen or reason why not to proceed and appreciate the step by step approach.

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All right, all right, it's person.

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I'm Nancy, thank you for the detail.

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I can see the improvements and I cannot see the improvements, so that's a good thing.

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The only question I actually had was on 96 Plinton with the oak.

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If you're doing the removal of the one or two branches that you see that are overhanging,

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do you think that that's going to make it a greater danger of falling sooner rather than later?

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I know that you say that it's going to fall in the woods in the way it looks like it's going to.

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Are you very confident that that's what would happen?

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because it's a pretty big tree and it looks like it's pretty empty inside. I'm just concerned

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with things like big winds and all that. This tree would come down sooner rather than later

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should you remove the bigger branches, but I'm going with what you say and I just mostly clear

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our curiosity. That's it. Thank you. Absolutely. So there's a few things. One is that

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Once you remove this overhang, let me get my little pen.

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Once you remove this overhang, all the way to the canopy is going to be going out into the road.

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Now, this tree is a good example of one that is technically biologically healthy, but structurally unhealthy.

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And by that I mean it's got a full canopy.

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I'm not seeing any fungal infection.

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But there are, so, biologically, it's a healthy tree, structurally, they're serious concerns.

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We got this big cavity in the middle of the stem, and then we got this large cavity at the base.

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So, I think that by pruning, when I want to prune on this tree, it will kill the tree long-term.

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But one of my four sheep professors was very fond of saying there's no such thing as a slow death for a tree that the client could take years.

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And with all the weight of the tree that is over the road getting removed, this tree is almost certainly going to fall into the road.

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And even ignoring the canopy weight, nine times out of ten trees fail the opposite direction of where the cavities are facing and both of these cavities are facing towards the road.

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So if we get all the overhang out of the street, I would say that there's almost no weight that it could go back into the road.

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Thank you.

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Great. Okay and I agree with the new and Julie and everyone on I don't have any additional

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comments I think the work has been done really well and I think it has proven out that it

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makes sense to continue it to the remaining streets identified. This being a public

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meeting we can also first see if anyone in the audience would like to comment if you

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see none.

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All right. I guess with that we can have a motion to prove the correct

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spoundaries based on the map. Maybe if you pull them out rather than the agenda

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wording.

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Okay. So I move that the planning board approved the scenic road tree, the continuation of the scenic

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road tree removal ever source along Concord Road, Plimpton Road, Pantry Road, and Water

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Road as presented.

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Second.

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All those in favor?

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Can I ask a clarification question?

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Yes.

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At the last meeting, you approved the level 2 and level 3 hazard trees and didn't approve the level 1 trees, as a measure to see what the clearing or the cutting looked like.

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I understand tonight we talked primarily about the storm resilience. Does that motion include those trees that are a hazard level 1 or is it just for the remainder storm resilience?

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Why don't we vote on this for the remainder of storm resilience and then go back and have a second

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motion on those just since we've already gotten through it. Does that work?

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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All right. All those in favor of the storm removal motion that has been made.

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Oh, shy yes.

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Oh, many yes.

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Who pennied in yes.

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Interior yes.

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Okay.

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Yes.

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So we can have his second motion on the removal and I don't have the wording of that in front of me.

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If there was about 15 trees that were considered level one,

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okay.

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Okay. So the motion to allow removal of those.

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Okay. Yeah, and you can reference the application.

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Okay.

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I move that the planning board approve the removal of the level one,

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one trees listed on the application for the scenic road

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tree removal ever source project.

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Second.

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All those in favor?

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Shall I yes?

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For all many yes, Rupany and yes.

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To grew I.

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All right.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Next up on the agenda.

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I know it's like in two.

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Okay.

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Being passed 730.

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It's continued public hearings, scenic roads, stone wall removal for zero,

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Mosspen Road, assessors map E08-0802.

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Who is here for that project?

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You don't call on it with cornerstone engineering.

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Yes.

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There's a shadow screen quick, so you can get the plan up.

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Okay, so this is continued hearing.

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Um, we have a proposed single family house

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around the corner of Mossman and Malborrods.

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Both those are scenic roads.

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Um, and they are proposing a,

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a new curb cut driveway.

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Um, right, essentially in the center of the lot, and it would require 12 feet of,

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uh, I mean, it would provide 18 feet of stone wall removal.

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Uh, essentially a small driveway would be 12 feet and then three feet on either side.

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just for a working space and that's basically the limits that are set within the

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scenic road by law. We did go out there and kind of we went with the applicant

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who walked the entire perimeter of both roads trying to select the best spot we

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thought in this spot in particular I can bring up a picture. This is the spot essentially

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where that would come through, and it's a spot where the, I don't know if you've been out there,

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some spots, the sidewalk and the wall raise up. So it's a few feet above the road and it's

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in much better condition. This one was essentially level with the road in a spot where the wall was

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essentially broken down already. To the left here, it gets a little bit more substantial

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into the right it also does. So we just kind of felt, that was the ideal spot. It didn't

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interview any street trees. They were actually four street trees on the property as one in the

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fire corner and then two down on Maulfro. So it seemed at least impactful way to access the site.

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So I guess that's all we generally have. I'll hand it back over.

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All right, great. Thank you.

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We'll go to staff, Adam.

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No, I mean, you saw the picture of the wall.

302
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It's kind of just some rocks laying on the side of the road.

303
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The properties currently going through the stormwater permitting process.

304
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I don't see any significant issue with this.

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I believe they've already contacted the DBW about a driveway permit.

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So they've had the conversations about sight distance and those sorts of things.

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So this is, in my opinion, a non-issue.

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Very good.

309
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All right, well, look quickly, go to the board, Ben,

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and see if anyone had a new.

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Thank you, John.

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Yeah, no, I think this was a thoughtful location

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for the driveway this, under everything.

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Everything that applicant said, I appreciate the applicant's

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stuck to the bylaw dimensions of no issues.

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Very good, Julie.

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I agree with the new, no comments.

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You can go ahead and curse them.

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I'm fine with that.

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I know they're working with DPW for line-of-sight issues and that's down the road.

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So I'm fine with this.

322
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Great.

323
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Yep.

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Me too agree.

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It's a long, that stretch seems like the best, pretty much the best location.

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So I also agree.

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I don't have any issues, but this also is a public hearing so quickly, if anyone from the public would like to speak raise your virtual hand,

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seeing no one again, I think we can have a motion to approve these in a group.

329
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Great. I move that the planning board approved the scenic road stone wall removal for zero Mossman Road. It says there's map E 0 8 dash 0 8 0 2 as presented.

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Second. All those in favor?

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Shias.

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From an eye.

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From Penny and I.

334
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Shoulder yes.

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Thank you.

336
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Thank you.

337
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Thank you.

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Right. Next up.

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Oh, shoot to close by.

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Okay. On time items.

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First up is eight made in way stormwater management

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If permit modification and someone here, I see someone indeed is good at the applicant.

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Are you able to hear me?

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Yes.

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My name is Jacob.

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I'm the new with Hancock Associate.

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It's a 315 Elm Street Mall Bromès representing Octavian development.

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I could just share my screen.

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Can you see that plan?

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Yes.

351
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We can.

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So as the board knows there's been a long history with this project, it's gone through multiple revisions and it's pretty much at the end of its development here.

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Everything on site is essentially stabilized except the berm around the infiltration basin here.

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The way that the flow is now is all of the one I'm from the swell coming down the side

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Directly over that embankment is causing erosion issues in the embankment especially

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It's been difficult to stabilize that. So in order to protect against that in the future, we want

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to install a couple of area drains to capture that flow and send it directly into the base and

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to a rip rap apron rather than having it flow over the embankment.

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Yeah, so that's basically it.

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We have the rest of the site is constructed.

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We once we finalize this, we'll be doing an asbo plan to be submitted to the board and

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we'll do the final site walk with Horsesley Whitten and then we can close the book on these

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bartricks.

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So, yeah, that's it.

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I'd open it up to any questions.

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Great.

367
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Pretty much.

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Pretty short.

369
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But we'll go through first Adam, is there anything from staff or Horsesley?

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No, I mean, this has been something I know the developer has been struggling with.

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He and I have had several conversations about it and the project did come in.

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We did have Horses, we didn't review the proposal.

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They went back to Hancock with a couple of questions about pipe sizing and pitch and got those

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all sorted out.

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So they said that the design is acceptable in their opinion and they don't have any significant

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issues, you know, I think there's two things the board should consider if they feel this is a

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minor modification or not and whether it needs a full public hearing and then whether or not they

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want to approve the project. It's not a substantial change to anything it's just an adjustment

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to have a water enters the basin if that helps the board with their decision.

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All right. Thank you. That seems pretty minor in my opinion, but we'll go through the board.

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Mr. Howard, Julie, you have popped up to the front somehow.

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Go to the head of the class. Any chance that our fearless chairman provided any feedback on this one?

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I did chat, I chat with Steve before every meeting and we did discuss this and he said he

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didn't, but if I recall correctly he didn't see any significant issue and as long as Horsely

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Witton had reviewed it and felt that it was acceptable he, you know, he wasn't seeing anything

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that he thought was wrong with it.

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Yeah, I heard basically saying message from Steve so before once he reminded me he wasn't going to be here.

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Perfect. Okay. Yeah. I very much defer to his expertise.

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So I think I'm fine with this and I'm fine with it counting as a minor modification not requiring additional

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Thank you, John. Yeah, it seems minor to me and my non-expert opinion, it seems fine and the experts agree on totally fine. Very good. First of.

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Hi, so yeah, and definitely not an expert on this stuff, but I do have a question.

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Was this when we when when it was being and I came in very late to this to this site?

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With what are these kinds of things foreseeable that this could have happened and it was?

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The talking was entertained or is it just something that happens and it's sort of

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Organic you don't really know that it's gonna happen until it happens. I'm just curious. I think it's more the latter

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The progress of these basins

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done the same way and this one for whatever reason is just being given us a lot of trouble.

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So I think it's just a site-specific situation.

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Okay, thanks.

400
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Okay, I also don't have any issue with it. We're basically just catching the water a little sooner and

401
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don't get into the same basis. So I don't have any issues and I certainly also think this is a minor

402
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modification. So I think we can have a motion to do we need to do we need to

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one to find a minor and then one to the change.

404
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Yeah. I move to the planning board.

405
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Determine. Determine the eight main and

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waste or water management. Permit modification of K-212 prads. Mill Road,

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So there's map G08-0922 is a minor modification.

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Second.

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Follows in favor.

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shyness.

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Brom and I.

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Repent any an I.

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Chagrius.

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With an I move that the planning board approved the eight made in waste or water management permit minor modification.

415
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Again, FK-212 Prats, Mills, Rodus as a map, G-05-09-22 as presented.

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Second.

417
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All those in favour?

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shyness.

419
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From an eye, repeat any an eye.

420
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Sugar eye.

421
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All right.

422
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Thank you.

423
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Thank you very much.

424
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Good luck, wrapping it up.

425
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Thank you.

426
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All right.

427
00:35:37,070 --> 00:35:42,050
Next up on the agenda is the Mahoney Farm's lease of unit.

428
00:35:44,310 --> 00:35:56,040
So let me hear for that, or I don't, I hope you're muted and it's unmute and then just we can't hear you, you're on mute.

429
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:57,980
Sorry.

430
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Yep, there you go.

431
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Good evening.

432
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I think horn 30, knob Scott Road Unit 2.

433
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My husband and I own and we are intending to rent it and when going through with the HOA for that,

434
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learned in the deed that it said no unit shall be rented released without the written permission

435
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of the town of February planning board. So if we had to come before the planning board.

436
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So you're here, all right. Take permission. Okay Adam, I will let you if you have any comment.

437
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This seems out of our normal realm, but it is well, well, you're doing the realm wrong, wrong share.

438
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I just want to give you the background on what it is because I think what's the meeting

439
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if it's not 15 minutes long? No.

440
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So within within the declaration of trust and the master

441
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deed, the town of Sudbury Planning Board is specifically called out as an approver of an owner

442
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renting or leasing the unit. So thus Ms. Moran is here in front of the board.

443
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This is an early in early 21st century development when I believe the plan

444
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Planning board didn't have as many development plans that they were reviewing for site plan, and certainly not for storm water, because that really wasn't quite a thing yet.

445
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So I think in order to keep themselves busy, there may have been certain things installed in approvals that kept folks coming back.

446
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So, I don't think there's something that comes up terribly often, I think, in general, these were built as ownership units, but as with everything, people's lives change, and I think Ms. Horne is here for that, if I'm not mistaken, she has had the association already blessed the lease, and that would be probably the bigger hurdle than this body.

447
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So other than that, I think it's it's simply a check-in balance.

448
00:38:26,300 --> 00:38:27,280
All right, it's very good.

449
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:27,960
It's three.

450
00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:29,660
It's not our normal world.

451
00:38:30,260 --> 00:38:33,420
It's not something we would likely put in any project ever again.

452
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,180
The curve may come to this board, but we are happy to do what we had to do here.

453
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,540
So does anyone from the board actually have any questions or comments?

454
00:38:40,860 --> 00:38:43,780
Well, in the spirit of that agreement, should I just extend this a little bit?

455
00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:44,540
No.

456
00:38:46,300 --> 00:38:55,420
I do like talking, everyone question is there, are there like any specific, obviously besides

457
00:38:55,420 --> 00:39:01,840
this stipulation like, is it, doesn't seem like it's in a affordable project, like, is

458
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:07,860
there anything sort of with the, when or with the deed that would, it is a senior development.

459
00:39:08,100 --> 00:39:12,760
So it was done under one of the two senior bylaws, we have, I don't believe it's a senior incentive

460
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:20,120
development, which would be something like Grouse Hill where they have the growth cap on the

461
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:27,400
value of the home. So I believe what it is is there was there was the ability to build

462
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:32,560
a more dense development. Correct. Correct. Yeah.

463
00:39:33,020 --> 00:39:39,900
It was part of a special permit is essentially really down to and

464
00:39:39,900 --> 00:39:45,880
everybody in love with a special permit and we're going to call it a board with membership that differs in the opinion of the current board

465
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:50,860
environment, but in the groupals, um, okay, if there's no other

466
00:39:51,660 --> 00:39:58,780
comments, I think we can have a motion to approve. Yeah, we'll have to do.

467
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:06,860
And I'm just approved like what's written on the agenda, Mahoney Farms, Lisa of Unit or is there a unit number?

468
00:40:06,860 --> 00:40:11,460
It would be the unit number, which is, I don't have the week.

469
00:40:12,500 --> 00:40:13,600
I unit number two.

470
00:40:14,740 --> 00:40:15,020
All right.

471
00:40:15,820 --> 00:40:23,020
I move at the planning board approve the Mahoney Farm's lease of unit number two as presented to

472
00:40:23,020 --> 00:40:23,960
light.

473
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:24,680
Second.

474
00:40:25,580 --> 00:40:26,240
All in favour?

475
00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:27,880
Shahai.

476
00:40:28,180 --> 00:40:28,880
For a minute.

477
00:40:31,100 --> 00:40:32,640
I'm planning a night.

478
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:34,060
Trigger yes.

479
00:40:34,900 --> 00:40:35,180
All right.

480
00:40:35,620 --> 00:40:36,240
Thank you.

481
00:40:37,020 --> 00:40:43,280
Thank you. Good luck with your red. Thank you. Thank you. And just a quick question.

482
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,900
Can I somehow get that in writing to present to the age of eight?

483
00:40:47,240 --> 00:40:48,920
Yeah, I'll also do that tomorrow.

484
00:40:50,740 --> 00:40:51,160
Okay.

485
00:40:51,900 --> 00:40:52,180
Yes.

486
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,820
Okay. Great. Thank you so much. Have a good evening.

487
00:40:55,420 --> 00:40:56,920
You too. Thank you.

488
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,100
All right. Next up.

489
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:01,420
Let's see here.

490
00:41:01,420 --> 00:41:06,720
Okay. 1115 Brimstone Lane, Stormwater Management, Bond release request.

491
00:41:08,300 --> 00:41:14,040
That's me. Yes. So 1115 Brimstone Lane is a single family home on Brimstone Lane.

492
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:19,960
It was a major stormwater permit by product of it being built on a cliff.

493
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:31,320
And it well exceeded the slow requirements. They came. I want to say last fall or maybe late

494
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:43,880
in the spring. In order to get an occupancy permit, they placed a bond. I believe within two or three weeks of them having placed the bond, they had already laid sod on the property.

495
00:41:45,180 --> 00:41:56,520
So we've done final inspections. They had all of the stormwater inspected the sod has taken beautifully and they are just looking for their release of their funds.

496
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:04,480
When it's pretty straightforward, you're then the inspection done, any comments from anyone?

497
00:42:05,500 --> 00:42:05,790
Nope.

498
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:08,500
All right.

499
00:42:09,380 --> 00:42:12,400
Let me have a motion to raise the remaining bond, I guess.

500
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:13,400
Yep.

501
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:14,980
I move that the planning board.

502
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,400
We're going to put on moving.

503
00:42:18,220 --> 00:42:25,040
I move that the planning board approve the 115 brimstone lane storm water management bond release request.

504
00:42:25,580 --> 00:42:27,040
I did it.

505
00:42:27,900 --> 00:42:28,620
All of us in different?

506
00:42:29,060 --> 00:42:29,580
Shias.

507
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:31,640
Romanias.

508
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,340
Rupini and I.

509
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:34,760
And screw yes.

510
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:36,920
Right.

511
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,240
Uh, let's see.

512
00:42:40,340 --> 00:42:41,000
Next up.

513
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,280
I don't think we had anything on battery storage.

514
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:45,040
That's just on there.

515
00:42:45,220 --> 00:42:45,800
But any Adam.

516
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,920
We don't have anything on battery energy storage.

517
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:49,380
Uh.

518
00:42:50,820 --> 00:42:52,540
I'll just, I'll slide right into master.

519
00:42:52,740 --> 00:42:53,380
All these limitations.

520
00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:54,460
Uh.

521
00:42:55,420 --> 00:43:00,560
So, um, the open space plan is progressing.

522
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:09,580
We will be having an input session on the 15th of October to present the goals, objectives,

523
00:43:10,500 --> 00:43:16,120
and action plan about a week ahead of time or so, we should have a draft plan up.

524
00:43:16,900 --> 00:43:21,660
If anybody has feedback, you can send it directly to me, or if none of you have anything

525
00:43:21,660 --> 00:43:27,020
to do on a Thursday, come on out to the Fairbank and have your stuff heard.

526
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:35,640
I think, so also the week before the liberal-led Suitaro Advisory Committee is holding their

527
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:41,740
second input session to present their draft recommendations in advance of the submission

528
00:43:41,740 --> 00:43:42,680
of their report.

529
00:43:43,820 --> 00:43:48,000
That's not a specific master plan, I don't but it's tied back to a few different things

530
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:55,740
in the master plan. We're still waiting to hear if we get the money from the economic bond bill

531
00:43:55,740 --> 00:44:03,620
for the root 20 zoning work that would be about $150,000 and we would use that to hire a consultant

532
00:44:03,620 --> 00:44:06,500
to start doing some visiting and public engagement.

533
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,020
And then this is sort of tied to the master plan

534
00:44:12,020 --> 00:44:19,580
at the next meeting, I will be bringing forward some language to put on the spring town meeting

535
00:44:19,580 --> 00:44:28,120
warrant to sort of massage the construction hours that are in our zoning bylaw. The this

536
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:35,600
board and the zoning board have been approving hours that are not necessarily in alignment

537
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:44,440
with what's in the bylaw, specifically Saturday hours. And I think that the existing hours

538
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:52,720
in the bylaw are something that probably go back many years. And we don't get a lot of Saturday

539
00:44:52,720 --> 00:44:59,640
work, but there are a few folks who do do some. So we just want to kind of get things into alignment

540
00:44:59,640 --> 00:44:59,960
with me.

541
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:15,600
Been putting forward and make that sort of all line up at something the building inspector and I have talked about a little bit. So, that will be not hopefully it won't be a surprise now. So, there's my administrative update and master plan rolled into one.

542
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,600
All right. Fantastic. You're cruising along with me in general.

543
00:45:21,820 --> 00:45:29,460
All right. Citizens comments and on resumed. We had minutes from last meeting for

544
00:45:29,460 --> 00:45:35,510
top of their minutes. Any comments from anyone in those? One small type of.

545
00:45:37,580 --> 00:45:43,740
All right. Some of us are self. So we don't notice the type of stuff.

546
00:45:43,740 --> 00:45:50,460
And of course, I wrote it down and I don't know what I did with where I wrote it down.

547
00:45:51,260 --> 00:45:55,680
It's supposed to be the word two and it's T, just T. Sorry.

548
00:45:57,260 --> 00:45:58,800
All sent it to you.

549
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,640
I think it wasn't too spelled in a different word.

550
00:46:00,820 --> 00:46:03,100
No, it was just, it should have been two or just.

551
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,680
Yeah, that's fine. Just, I'm sure we can find it.

552
00:46:06,900 --> 00:46:11,040
It's right. I just, yeah, I wrote it down now. I don't know what I did with it. So sorry.

553
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,040
All right, the problem, we have a motion too.

554
00:46:14,820 --> 00:46:19,720
I move at the planning board approve the meeting minister from September 9th, 2020, as amended.

555
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:20,980
Second.

556
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:22,760
Hold in favor.

557
00:46:23,240 --> 00:46:24,480
shy yes.

558
00:46:24,700 --> 00:46:25,020
I'm in.

559
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,420
Rupany and yes.

560
00:46:27,660 --> 00:46:28,780
Shoulder eyes.

561
00:46:30,340 --> 00:46:30,640
Okay.

562
00:46:31,720 --> 00:46:33,800
Any committee member updates?

563
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:35,600
I have no.

564
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:40,280
We do have, we'll do have the first meeting of the CPC.

565
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:49,120
And I think that's probably right in the same timeframe as all this open space and Suotaro.

566
00:46:49,940 --> 00:46:50,760
Seven October.

567
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,340
Seven October, yes.

568
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:53,340
So it's the week before.

569
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,580
We've got quite a few requests this year.

570
00:46:57,980 --> 00:47:02,280
And then also I just wanted to mention I went to a seminar hosted by MACC on the BESS.

571
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:10,200
a very interesting division of who controls what relative to energy

572
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:15,420
sighting board and the department of energy. So at some point, you know, I'll be

573
00:47:15,420 --> 00:47:21,020
interested to see what you have to say about all this atom. It was very

574
00:47:21,020 --> 00:47:28,740
interesting anyways, just on it. It'll be a challenge if we ever, if we ever

575
00:47:28,740 --> 00:47:33,420
have to deal with it. And I don't see it happening here. Just my opinion.

576
00:47:36,380 --> 00:47:37,920
And I said I had none,

577
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:44,660
but actually there is rail trail maintenance going on this week. Based on posting from the rail

578
00:47:44,660 --> 00:47:48,540
trail committee, the last committee meeting was during our last meeting. So actually I wasn't there,

579
00:47:49,020 --> 00:47:54,320
but I know that's been up on the website. She don't know where it's on the trail. But anyway,

580
00:47:54,320 --> 00:48:02,140
it is on the WPW maintaining the whole trip. Is it? They're they're going from doing

581
00:48:02,140 --> 00:48:07,260
a start from the conqueror. Yeah from the conqueror. Oh, Bruce Freeman you're talking about.

582
00:48:07,580 --> 00:48:12,440
Yes, I see. Okay, great. They're they're mowing back the edges and they're cleaning off

583
00:48:13,020 --> 00:48:17,420
the pine needles and and other things to make it a little bit safer.

584
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:26,120
All right we already had the

585
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:33,960
our future agenda items. I think that is it. Our next meeting is the 14th in the 28th.

586
00:48:36,700 --> 00:48:43,830
Anyone knows her outfit? I will not be available on the 28th. Are we doing costumes in the 28th?

587
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:53,160
I don't want to be the only one. I'll make sure.

588
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:53,720
virtual.

589
00:48:54,060 --> 00:48:55,940
You can dress up as a virtual human.

590
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:58,720
We need to check with you.

591
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,460
How to dress up as a same thing.

592
00:49:03,720 --> 00:49:04,680
All right.

593
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,920
Do you need to all switch the art behind you?

594
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:08,640
All right.

595
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:09,160
All right.

596
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:14,960
So before we get ourselves in trouble with costumes, we will come up on Wednesday.

597
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,620
Sudbury planning, more meeting for Wednesday, September 23rd.

598
00:49:19,620 --> 00:49:20,240
Thanks, everyone.

599
00:49:20,460 --> 00:49:21,260
See you in October.

600
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:22,440
Thank you.

601
00:49:22,460 --> 00:49:22,940
Thank you.

602
00:49:22,940 --> 00:49:23,360
Thank you.