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[0:11] All right, then. With that, it being 731. We will open the planning board meeting of the town of Sudbury for Wednesday, September 23rd, 2026.
[0:24] Pursuant to chapter 2 of the acts of 2025, this meeting will be conducted via remote means, members of the public who wish to access the meeting may do so in the following manner by clicking on the link located on the agenda on the planning board website, or for audio only by calling in.
[0:41] and to the number and meeting ID listed on the agenda.
[0:45] No in-person attendance of members of the public
[0:47] will be permitted and public participation
[0:48] in any public hearing conducted during this meeting
[0:50] shall be by remote means only.
[0:53] And we will take a roll call of planning board members
[0:56] participating.
[0:58] I knew you shut up, President.
[1:01] Julie, for all my in-present.
[1:03] Kirsten, repenting, and present.
[1:05] And John should be present.
[1:07] Okay, our first item, 730, continued public hearing for scenic road tree removal from ever
[1:15] source along Concord Road, Pumpton Road, Candy Hill Road, and Water Road, who is here for
[1:21] the applicant.
[1:22] That would be me.
[1:24] Can you hear me?
[1:24] Yes.
[1:26] Excellent.
[1:27] I'll just give you your address for the records, Leo.
[1:30] Yep.
[1:31] Matthew Mitchell, Arborist with Ever Source.
[1:33] address would be two, four, seven station drive westwood for my office.
[1:39] Great.
[1:47] We'll just pull up the PowerPoint.
[1:52] All right. Do you all see a map?
[1:55] Yes. Yes. Perfect.
[2:02] There we go.
[2:06] And so just as a quick recap,
[2:10] map.
[2:13] I am following up with my storm resiliency project, which is meant to reduce outages
[2:21] and road blockages during major storm events. The difference between our regular clearance
[2:28] and this storm clearance is the regular clearance is 10 feet to the sides and below the primary
[2:34] Wires, which are located at the very top of the pole and 15 feet overhead and generally
[2:40] limbs of significant size within that overhead tend to be grandfathered in.
[2:46] The resiliency tree work or the storm resiliency clearance is 15 feet to the sides and below
[2:52] the wires and 25 feet overhead and generally limbs of significant size are not grandfathered
[2:58] in less pruning to, unless removing those would break standard or bore a cultural pruning practices.
[3:09] At the last meeting, we approved a phase one of the projects, which was to prune a section of Concord and Water Row,
[3:20] as well as getting approval for 20, I think 23 potentially hazardous trees.
[3:28] And just as a note, the paperwork says that it's on one of the roads is Candy Hill and leaves out pantry, but this project does not include Candy Hill and runs from pantry or comes off a conquer it up to 117.
[3:51] And I have some photos for you guys of the work.
[3:55] So we're going to start with the Rotter Row.
[3:57] Water Row is complete.
[4:00] Concord Street is around halfway done on the left.
[4:06] I'm going to have photos of my before pictures.
[4:12] And on the right, I'm going to have photos of what it looks like now.
[4:15] So on the left, you can see there's some overhang over here.
[4:19] And on the right, we've cleared some of it out.
[4:22] I think this looks pretty good.
[4:24] Not a lot of work going on in this one.
[4:28] And we're starting at the bottom of the bottom row,
[4:30] the south part, where it comes off of, I think,
[4:35] Route 27, and heading northwards.
[4:39] So this is another photo.
[4:41] So the main work done was this bit of overhanging growth
[4:45] over here.
[4:46] On the right, you can see we've pruned it out.
[4:49] getting all the overhead and the storm clearance is 15 by 15 by 25. Generally, we're
[4:59] emphasizing that overhead clearance. We're not necessarily getting that 15 feet to the
[5:04] sides all the time, but we are trying to get the 25 feet where we can.
[5:11] Continuing to head
[5:12] northwards, you can see on the left, these lower limbs that have been there since before. The
[5:19] Last time you pruned the circuit four to five years ago, and we pruned off some of the
[5:25] lower ones to increase that overhead clearance,
[5:30] jumping up a bit, or now facing northwards.
[5:37] And the main work that happened here is these limbs coming in from across the street that
[5:44] had not been pruned back in previous cycles.
[5:47] over here, you can see we pruned it back to the main stem and one thing I want to showcase for you guys is that like we are getting sort of that lower layer of tree limbs, but we are still maintaining can appeal over the road.
[6:04] So I think that we are, I think we are hitting a sweet spot between the aesthetic value of the road and getting that additional clearance for reliability and general public safety.
[6:18] So here on the left is this is a little confusing because the the photo on the left is facing south and the photo on the right is facing north.
[6:26] The photo on the left you can see this is dead tree. I did not ask for permission to remove it because I thought we could prune it in a way where we can just sort of get the top off and the way that this guy's leaning.
[6:37] he's just going to fall off into the woods. Standing dead trees are a very valuable ecological resource.
[6:46] And the other thing to point out for this one is these lower limbs got pruned back to this main
[6:52] stem here. It's kind of hard to see with the background foliage. But on my next slide,
[6:58] oh never mind.
[7:01] It's kind of hard to see, but we did get these lower limbs and the clearance here,
[7:05] I think it's fairly good. There's a photo coming up that will show it, but the next photo is the undergrowth which is the other part of this project that we talked about.
[7:15] So on the left is what it looked like before my contractor went through and then on the right is post flat cutting.
[7:25] you can see that the stone wall is now visible. It was not visible earlier.
[7:31] And we did increase this overhead clearance.
[7:35] But again, that overhanging canopy for the road in general is still there.
[7:41] And this is the one. So this is a photo of the same work but facing the other direction.
[7:47] This is that tree I was talking about two slides ago where we got that overhang.
[7:52] And another thing that is useful, I think, is that we have increased the visibility around
[7:59] this road bend, not a huge amount because a lot of it is from the slope, but I think
[8:04] looking here you can still see through pretty well and is a pretty sharp curve.
[8:10] Now these cut undergrowth, they are going to sprout back in the future.
[8:16] here.
[8:19] But now that we've established this clearance, I think it's something that we can
[8:23] maintain every four years before they grow up in the big trees and sort of we can be
[8:28] cutting back to this every time you go through this circuit now if you guys are okay with
[8:33] that. And I think that is it for Water Row. We did not get any complaints calling into
[8:42] ever source about the work. The person immediately to the right of where this picture was did come
[8:49] out to the crews and asked for not increased clearance, which we were fine doing. But overall,
[8:57] for Water Row, we have not had that I'm aware of anyone calling in this approving of the work.
[9:07] Now, off to Concord. This is just north of that parking lot. This is a private maple on the left.
[9:17] And on the right, you can see that we got that side clearance and the clearance below, as well as the clearance above.
[9:23] And I think that this looks pretty good.
[9:28] Continuing to head north on the left is a photo of me almost getting run over.
[9:34] but we see that this, the wire is coming in through here.
[9:38] Pretty close to the lines.
[9:40] And then we got this good side clearance over here.
[9:42] We got some good overhang.
[9:44] And again, it's not really, in my opinion,
[9:45] impacting the overall aesthetic of the road.
[9:49] This is where the flat-cutting section for Concord Road began.
[9:54] Not a lot was going on here.
[9:58] A lot of the stuff coming out of here was smaller, woody stuff, very young trees.
[10:02] But we got what we could. I think it looks a bit better.
[10:05] And the other thing worth noting for this one is this declining tree over here.
[10:11] We did get the overhang out of it, so there's no longer any of it leaning over the sidewalk in the road.
[10:19] And here is my before photo of the Lincoln Sudbury Regional High School,
[10:24] which is one of the places that we stopped at to take a look during our field visit.
[10:29] These are both before photos.
[10:31] just take in a few poll spans apart from each other.
[10:35] So you can see there's some growth coming in from the side on both sides.
[10:39] We got this undergrowth over here.
[10:41] This is what it looks like now.
[10:44] On the left you can see we got that side clearance.
[10:46] We got a lot of clearance over here.
[10:48] We had a lot of buy-in from the school.
[10:52] They were very supportive of this project.
[10:54] A lot of this clearance came from trees that were not within the road layout.
[10:58] out, but I think it's still worth looking at. And on the right, and for those of us who
[11:05] were out at the field visit, remember how overgrown this section was. It was really getting
[11:11] into like the head like it was really growing into like the head height of the walkway.
[11:15] This is now very open and much more visible.
[11:24] So if that's the work that's been done so
[11:26] far, a conquered road is about halfway done. What is left to do is the remainder of conquered,
[11:33] punch and pantry and plimpton. I don't think there's much heavy work going on in pantry
[11:41] and the rest of conquered beyond the tree removals that were already approved
[11:47] where the work is going to be heaviest would be plimpton. I think somebody at the last meeting
[11:53] asking me some questions about the overhang on Plimpton that didn't have very good answers for,
[11:59] so I went through and took a few photos to show you guys what it looks like currently.
[12:05] So these are just kind of randomly taken along Plimpton in areas I thought showed the very different
[12:12] things going on. I would say that the majority of the overhang is under 10 inches. A lot of it's
[12:21] be between four to eight, four to 10 inches.
[12:24] There's only a few instances where we're
[12:26] starting to look at limbs that are larger.
[12:28] So for the tree on the left, we'd probably
[12:30] cut back to here, where there's a lateral limb growing up.
[12:36] That's a healthy cut that the tree can heal quickly
[12:39] and effectively with.
[12:41] But here, on the right, I mean, it's just
[12:43] going to be a lot of pruning back, smaller growth.
[12:45] It's just going to be pruning back to a larger clearance
[12:48] than what we've gotten.
[12:49] but a lot of the limbs aren't necessarily going to be that big.
[12:55] And some more photos, again, this guy over here, we just be taking out these lower limbs,
[13:01] and none of them are particularly large. Same thing with these oaks over here.
[13:06] So there are, I think, Plumpton can be described as, there's a lot of overhang, but not a lot of it
[13:13] is large diameter, so it's a lot of volume of leaves and branches, but I don't think there will be that many big cuts.
[13:24] But one thing I wanted to point out is this oak on the right, so I did not include this oak.
[13:30] In my initial list of proposed tree removals because it's a really big oak.
[13:36] I didn't think it would be successful in getting it taken down, although I think there are definitely some health concerns going on with it.
[13:43] But another reason I didn't include is that if you look at the way the stem is going,
[13:47] that the canopy is going, this guy is leaning out into the woods.
[13:52] He's also got some health defects.
[13:54] There's a big cavity at the base, some mild damage from winter months, and then there's
[14:00] a cavity in the mid stem, which on the main tree photo would be right here.
[14:05] But what I would like to do with this oak is to prune out all the overhang.
[14:09] So that would be this big stem here, all the stuff coming off of this stem that's curving back over and what this is going to do is take out all of the canopy that would be leaning out into the road so that this tree can do whatever nature wants it to wants it to if slash when it does fail.
[14:31] It's going to go off into the woods and by not removing it outright like I mentioned earlier.
[14:36] Here, standing decomposing trees are a very valuable wildlife resource.
[14:43] So this is not one that I really wanted to remove that right, but it would have significant
[14:48] work going on with it, if we prune it to the way that I'm thinking.
[14:55] That's about it.
[14:58] Great.
[14:59] It won't.
[15:00] So we will go to staff and then the board and then after that, if anyone from the public wants to speak. So I guess Adam. Yeah, no, thank you for all this information. I think it's helpful. I'll correct the approval. I don't know why I put candyhill instead of pantry. I must have had my map upside down when I was thinking about it. I.
[15:29] I went out and visited both sites and I had reached out to Matthew to make sure that the work had
[15:36] been done and he assured me that they had at least done water row and I went out there and I had
[15:41] a really hard time telling when I drove down the road. So I think seeing the side by side pictures
[15:46] was really helpful. It was a little more evident because I drove by while they had half the road
[15:53] block today on Concord Road but you could also see the guardrail wasn't being eaten by plants
[16:00] but I don't from from my perspective it didn't appear that there was a significant change to
[16:07] the road or the quality of vegetation or amount of vegetation visible from the road.
[16:13] I don't have any technical information I mean trees are green that's about as much as I can
[16:19] give you. So I'll end it there. All right. We'll go through the board. A new. Thank you, Johnny.
[16:27] Great. Thank you, John. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you to Matthew for the photos and the explanation.
[16:35] I think this was very conscientiously done. It looks like regular kind of landscape maintenance,
[16:43] which I think some of these areas desperately needed. And it doesn't necessarily look like a power
[16:47] or power line dictated maintenance.
[16:52] So I think it looks great and I'm fine with Mr. Mitchell's
[17:04] blanket on words.
[17:06] Whatever he wants to do on that large oak.
[17:10] And that's all.
[17:11] I think it looks great.
[17:14] See you, Julie.
[17:15] one question for Adam. No comments were received from neighbors or anything. I'm assuming no we did
[17:28] receive a public records request for the submission and the approval that was issued. I think that
[17:35] went out either yesterday afternoon or early this morning probably within 48 or 72 hours of us getting
[17:43] it but no one's reached out to the office to make any any comment questions or otherwise.
[17:50] Okay um I mean I agree I think that it looks really good I think the proposal you know it seems
[18:01] like more of the same um and as long as none of the neighbors are up in our arms say it's
[18:09] I've seen a reason why not to proceed.
[18:12] I appreciate the step-by-step approach.
[18:20] Great.
[18:20] All right.
[18:21] Person.
[18:23] Hi, Matthew.
[18:24] Thank you for the detail.
[18:27] I can see the improvements and I cannot see the improvements so that's a good thing.
[18:35] The only question I actually had was on 96 Plintin with the oak.
[18:39] if you're doing the removal of the one or two branches that you see that are
[18:45] overhanging, do you think that that's going to make it a greater danger of
[18:53] falling sooner rather than later? I know that you say that it's going to fall in
[18:57] the woods in the way it slants, it looks like it's going to. Are you very confident that
[19:03] that's what would happen? Because it's a pretty big tree and it looks like it's
[19:08] pretty empty inside. I'm just concerned with things like big wins and all that.
[19:14] This tree would come down sooner rather than later should you remove the bigger branches,
[19:19] but I'm going with what you say and I just mostly curiosity. That's it. Thank you.
[19:27] Absolutely. So there's a few things. One is that once you remove this overhang
[19:37] Oh, I mean, get my little pen, yeah there you go.
[19:42] Once you remove this overhang, all of the weight of the canopy is going to be going out
[19:45] into the road.
[19:47] Now this tree is a good example of one that is technically biologically healthy, but structurally
[19:54] unhealthy, and by that I mean it's got a full canopy, I'm not seeing any fungal infection,
[20:01] but there are, so biologically it's a healthy tree.
[20:04] structurally they're serious concerns we got this big cavity in the middle of
[20:08] the stem and then we got this large cavity at the base so I think that by
[20:14] pruning when I want to prune on this tree it will kill the tree long-term but one
[20:20] of my four sheet professors was very fond of saying there's no such thing as a
[20:23] slow death for a tree that the client could take years and with all of the
[20:29] weight of the tree that is over the road getting removed, this tree is almost certainly going
[20:35] to fall into the road. And even ignoring the canopy weight, 9 times out of 10 trees fail the
[20:42] opposite direction of where the cavities are facing and both of these cavities are facing towards the
[20:46] road. So if we get all the overhang out of this tree, I would say that there's almost no way that
[20:52] It could go back into the road.
[20:56] Thank you.
[20:59] Great.
[21:00] Okay.
[21:00] And I agree with a new and julie and everyone.
[21:04] I don't have any additional comments.
[21:07] I think the work has been done really well.
[21:09] And I think it has proven out that it makes sense to continue it to the remaining streets identified.
[21:17] But this being a public meeting.
[21:20] We can also first see if anyone in the audience would like to comment.
[21:24] that's who would raise your virtual home in Google.
[21:35] I see none.
[21:39] All right.
[21:40] I guess with that, we can have a motion
[21:42] to prove the correct spoundaries based on the map.
[21:47] Maybe if you pull them out, rather than the agenda wording.
[21:58] Okay, so I move that the planning board
[22:03] approved the scenic road tree, the continuation of the scenic road tree removal ever-sourced along
[22:11] Concord, Road, Plimpton, Road, Pantry Road, and Water Road as presented.
[22:22] Second.
[22:24] All those in favor? Can I ask a clarification question? Yes, of course. At the last meeting you
[22:30] approved the level 2 and level 3 hazard trees and didn't approve the level 1 trees as a measure to
[22:40] see what the clearing or the cutting looked like. I understand tonight we talked
[22:46] primarily about the storm resilience. Does that motion include those trees that are hazard level 1
[22:52] or is it just for the remainder storm resilience?
[22:57] Why don't we vote on this for the remainder
[22:59] your storm resilience and then come back and have a second motion on those just since
[23:03] we've already gotten through. Does that work?
[23:05] I just get the time.
[23:07] Okay.
[23:07] All right. All those in favor of the storm removal motion that has been made?
[23:13] Shia Yes.
[23:14] Pearl Minyes.
[23:15] RuPenny and Yes.
[23:17] And Sugar Yes.
[23:19] Okay.
[23:20] Yes.
[23:21] So we can have a second motion on the removal and I don't have the wording of that in front
[23:26] of me.
[23:27] There was about 15 trees that were considered level one.
[23:32] Okay.
[23:33] So we did a motion to allow removal of those.
[23:37] Okay. Yeah.
[23:38] And you can reference the application.
[23:40] Okay.
[23:42] I move that the planning board approve the removal of the level one.
[23:47] One trees listed on the application for the scenic road.
[23:52] tree removal, ever-sourced project.
[23:57] Second.
[23:58] All those in favor?
[24:00] Shy, yes.
[24:02] Rolling, yes.
[24:03] Rupani, and yes.
[24:05] Chagru, aye.
[24:08] All right.
[24:09] Thank you very much.
[24:10] Thank you.
[24:14] Next up on the agenda.
[24:17] Again, one second.
[24:18] Okay.
[24:20] Being passed 730.
[24:22] Continued public hearings.
[24:23] Scenic Roads Stonewall removal for zero Mossman Road Assessor's Map E08-0802, who is here for that project.
[24:34] You know, Colonna with Colonna Stone Engineering.
[24:37] Let me just share this screen quick to get the plan up.
[24:45] Okay, so this is continued hearing.
[24:48] We have a proposed single family house brand, the corner of Mossman and Marble Roads, both
[24:55] those are scenic roads, and they are proposing a new curb cut driveway right, essentially
[25:05] in the center of the lot, and it would require 12 feet of, I mean, 18 feet of stone wall removal.
[25:12] Essentially a small driveway would be 12 feet and then three feet on either side just
[25:18] for our working space.
[25:20] And that's basically the limits that are set within the scenic road by-law.
[25:25] We did go out there and kind of, we went with the applicant and walked the entire perimeter
[25:31] or both roads trying to select the best spot we thought.
[25:35] In this spot in particular, I'm going to bring a picture.
[25:40] This is the spot essentially where that would come through.
[25:44] It's a spot where the, I don't know if you've been out there,
[25:47] some spots that the sidewalk and the wall raise up.
[25:50] So it's a few feet above the road,
[25:52] and it's in much better condition.
[25:53] This one was essentially level with the road in a spot
[25:56] where the wall was essentially broken down already.
[26:01] To the left here, it gets a little bit more substantial
[26:04] and to the right it also does.
[26:07] So we just kind of felt that was the ideal spot.
[26:10] It didn't interview up any street trees.
[26:12] They're actually four street trees on the property.
[26:16] I was one in the far corner, and then two down on Monbro.
[26:19] So it seemed the least impactful way to access the site.
[26:24] So I guess that's all we generally have.
[26:27] We'll hand it back over.
[26:30] All right, great.
[26:31] Thank you.
[26:33] We'll go to the staff, Adam.
[26:34] any? No, I mean, you saw the picture of the wall. It's kind of just some rocks laying
[26:40] on the side of the road. The property is currently going through their stormwater permitting
[26:45] process. I don't see any significant issue with this. I believe they've already contacted
[26:51] the DBW about a driveway permit. So they've had the conversations about site distance and those sorts
[26:58] things so this is in my opinion a non-issue. Very good all right well we'll quickly go to the board
[27:07] then and see if anyone got on new. Thank you John yeah no I think this is a thoughtful location
[27:12] for the for the driveway this and everything everything applicant said I appreciate
[27:17] appreciate that the applicant stuck to the the bylaw dimensions I've no issues.
[27:24] a good Julie. I agree with the new, no, no comments.
[27:33] Go ahead and Kristen.
[27:36] I'm fine with it. I know they're working with DPW for line of sight issues and that's down the road. So I'm fine with this.
[27:44] Great. Yep. Me too. Agreed. It's a long that stretch seems like the best, pretty much the best location.
[27:50] so I also agree. I don't have any issues. This also is a public hearing, so quickly if anyone
[27:58] from the public would like to speak, raise your virtual hand.
[28:07] Seeing no one again, I think we can
[28:11] have a motion to approve the scenic road. Great. I move that the planning board approve the scenic
[28:18] road stone wall removal for zero Mossman road assessors MAB E08-0802 as presented.
[28:27] Second. All those in favor?
[28:30] Shia's. From and I.
[28:33] Rupeni and I.
[28:35] Shagurius. Where? Thank you.
[28:38] Thank you.
[28:40] All right. Next up, I don't know if I should close my gender here.
[28:45] Okay, on time items. First up is eight made in a way, storm water management permit modification.
[28:53] And is someone here? I see someone indeed is here at the applicant.
[28:59] Are you able to hear me?
[29:00] Yes. My name is Jacob Lemue with Hank Act Associates, 315 Elm Street, Marbrow Mass.
[29:07] Representing Octavian Development. I could just share my screen.
[29:19] Can you see that plan?
[29:23] So as the board knows, there's been a long history with this project, it's gone through multiple revisions and it's pretty much at the end of its development here.
[29:36] Everything on site is essentially stabilized except the berm around the infiltration basin here.
[29:44] The way that the flow is now is all of the one off from this swale coming down the side directly over that embankment is causing erosion issues and the embankment, especially...
[30:00] It's been difficult to stabilize that. So in order to protect against that in the future, we want to install a couple of area drains to capture that flow and and send it directly into the basin to riprap apron rather than having it flow over the embankment.
[30:21] Yeah, so that's, that's basically it. We have the rest of the site is constructed. We, once we finalize
[30:29] this we'll be doing an as bill planned to be submitted to the board and we'll do the final
[30:35] site walk with Horsley Whitten and and then we can close the book on these projects. So yeah,
[30:43] that's it. I'd open it up to any questions. Great. Pretty straightforward, but we'll go through
[30:50] first Adam. Is there anything from staff or Horsley? No, I mean, this has been something I know the
[30:55] developer has been struggling with. He and I have had several conversations about it and
[31:01] the project did come in. We did have Horsley Whitten review, the proposal. They went back to
[31:07] Hancock with a couple of questions about pipe sizing and pitch and got those all sorted out.
[31:13] So they've said that the design is acceptable in their opinion and they don't have any significant
[31:20] issues. I think there's two things the board should consider. If they feel this is a minor modification
[31:27] or not and whether it needs a full public hearing and then whether or not they want to approve
[31:33] the project, it's not a substantial change to anything. It's just an adjustment to how the water
[31:41] enters the base and if that helps the board with their decision. All right. Thank you.
[31:48] Oh, yeah, that seems pretty minor in my opinion, but we'll go through the board.
[31:55] Let's start with Julie.
[31:57] You have popped up to the front somehow.
[32:00] Board of the head of the class.
[32:04] Any chance that our fearless German provided any feedback on this one?
[32:12] I did chat with Steve before every meeting, and we did discuss this, and he said he didn't,
[32:20] if I recall correctly, he didn't see any significant issue, and as long as
[32:24] Horsley Witten had reviewed it and felt that it was acceptable, he, you know, he wasn't seeing
[32:30] anything that he thought was wrong with it. Yeah, I heard basically the same message from Steve,
[32:37] So before once he reminded me, he wasn't going to be here perfect.
[32:43] Okay, yeah, I very much defer to his expertise.
[32:48] So I think I'm fine with this and I'm fine with it counting as a minor modification,
[32:56] not requiring additional look hearing.
[33:00] All right, the new thank you, John.
[33:03] Yeah, it seems minor to me and my non-expert opinion seems fine and the expert's agree on
[33:10] totally fine. Very good, first of all. Hi, so yeah, I'm definitely not an expert on this stuff,
[33:17] but I do have a question. Was this when we when when it was being and I came in very late to this to this
[33:24] site? Are these kinds of things foreseeable that this could have happened and that was
[33:31] the talking was entertained, or is it just something that happens, and it's sort of organic,
[33:37] you don't really know that it's going to happen until it happens. I'm just curious.
[33:41] I think it's more the latter. The hundreds of these basins
[33:47] done the same way, and this one for whatever reason is just
[33:51] being given us a lot of trouble. So I think it's just a site-specific situation.
[33:59] Okay. Thanks.
[34:02] Okay. I also don't have any issue with it. We're basically just catching
[34:07] the water a little sooner and dumping it into the same basin. So I don't have any issues
[34:13] and I certainly also think this is a minor modification. So I think we can have a motion to do we need
[34:25] We need two, one to find a minor and then one to accept the change.
[34:32] Yeah.
[34:32] I move to the planning board, determine the eight main waste or water management permit modification
[34:40] of K-212 PREDS.
[34:43] Mill Road, as such, is MavG-08-0922, is a minor modification.
[34:50] Second.
[34:51] Ball those in favor?
[34:53] Shia Yes.
[34:54] Perum and I.
[34:56] Repenny and I.
[34:57] Chagurius.
[35:00] We then I move that the planning board approved the eight made-in waste or water management
[35:07] permit minor modification, FK-212-Pratz mills road associated map, G-05-0922 as presented.
[35:18] Second.
[35:19] All right.
[35:20] All those in favor?
[35:21] Shias.
[35:23] Perum and I.
[35:24] Repenny and I.
[35:26] Sugar-I.
[35:28] All right.
[35:29] Thank you.
[35:29] Thank you very much.
[35:30] Good luck wrapping it up.
[35:32] Thank you.
[35:35] All right.
[35:36] Next up on the agenda is the Mahoney Farms lease of units.
[35:44] Somebody here for that or is Adam.
[35:47] Hope you're muted.
[35:49] It's unmuted and then just we can't hear you.
[35:54] You're unmuted.
[35:57] Sorry.
[35:57] Yep, there you go. Good evening.
[36:00] There are Ivan Horn, 30, Nobscott Road Unit 2.
[36:05] My husband and I own, and we are intending to rent it.
[36:12] And when going through with the HOA for that, we learned in the deed that it said, no unit
[36:18] shall be rented or leased without the written permission of the town of Sudbury Planning
[36:21] Board.
[36:22] So we get to come before the planning board.
[36:25] So you're here.
[36:29] Okay, Adam. I will let you if you have any comment. This seems out of our normal realm, but I understand it is well around wrong wrong share.
[36:43] I just want to give you the background on what it is because I think what's the meeting if it's not 15 minutes long.
[36:54] No.
[36:57] So within the declaration of trust and the master deed, the town of Sudbury Planning Board
[37:06] is specifically called out as an approver of an owner renting or leasing the unit.
[37:15] So thus Ms. Horn is here in front of the board. This is an early, an early 21st century development
[37:25] when I believe the planning board didn't have as many development plans that they were
[37:32] reviewing for site plan, and certainly not for stormwater because that really wasn't
[37:37] quite a thing yet. So I think in order to keep themselves busy, there may have been certain
[37:42] things installed in approvals that kept folks coming back. So I don't think this is something
[37:51] that comes up terribly often, I think, in general, these were built as ownership units.
[37:57] But as with everything, people's lives change, and I think Ms. Horn is here for that.
[38:05] If I'm not mistaken, she has had the Association already blessed the lease, and that would be
[38:13] probably the bigger hurdle than this body.
[38:16] So other than that, I think it's, it's simply a check and balance.
[38:23] All right, very good. I agree. There's not our normal world and not something we would likely put in any project ever again
[38:31] at the current makeup of this board, but we are happy to do what we have to do here.
[38:35] So does anyone from the board actually have any questions or comments?
[38:38] Well, in the spirit of that agreement, should I just extend this a little bit?
[38:42] No.
[38:44] I just want to talk to everyone.
[38:47] Question is there are there like any specific obviously besides this stipulation like?
[38:55] Is it doesn't seem like it's an affordable project like is there anything sort of with
[39:01] the manner with the deed that would?
[39:04] It is a senior development so it was done under one of the two senior bylaws we have I don't
[39:09] I believe it's a senior incentive development,
[39:12] which would be something like Grouse Hill,
[39:14] where they have the growth cap on the value of the home.
[39:20] So I believe what it is is there were,
[39:23] there was the ability to build a more dense development.
[39:29] Correct, yeah.
[39:30] How do I address her?
[39:31] Just curious why?
[39:33] It was part of a special permit,
[39:34] it's essentially really easy to get down to.
[39:36] and everybody loves a special permit and can I call it a board with membership that differs
[39:42] in opinion from the current board.
[39:46] Okay, if there's no other comments, I think we can have
[39:51] a motion to approve. Yeah, we have to do. And just approve like what's written on the agenda?
[40:00] Mahoney Farms lease of unit or is there a unit number? It would be the unit number.
[40:06] which is, I don't have the lead.
[40:09] Two.
[40:10] Unit number two.
[40:11] Okay.
[40:12] All right.
[40:13] I move that the planning board approve
[40:15] the Mahoney Farm's lease of unit number two
[40:20] as presented tonight.
[40:22] Second.
[40:23] All in favor?
[40:24] Shai.
[40:25] Roman, yes.
[40:28] And Prenny and I.
[40:31] Sugar, yes.
[40:32] All right.
[40:33] Thank you.
[40:35] Thank you.
[40:36] Good luck with your right.
[40:38] Thank you.
[40:39] Thank you.
[40:40] And just a quick question.
[40:41] Can I somehow get that in writing
[40:43] to present the age away for it?
[40:45] I'll follow you tomorrow, Adam.
[40:48] Okay.
[40:49] Yes.
[40:50] Okay. Great.
[40:51] Thank you so much.
[40:52] Have a good evening.
[40:53] You too.
[40:54] Thank you.
[40:54] All right.
[40:55] Next up.
[40:58] Let's see here.
[40:59] Okay.
[41:00] 115 Brimstone Lane Stormwater Management
[41:03] it on release request.
[41:05] That's a special item.
[41:07] Yeah, so 115 Brimstone Lane is a single family home on Brimstone Lane.
[41:11] It was a major stormwater permit by product of it being built on a cliff
[41:18] and it well exceeded the slope requirements.
[41:22] They came, I want to say last fall or maybe late in the spring
[41:30] in order to get an occupancy permit, they placed a bond. I believe within two or three weeks of them having placed a bond, they had already laid sod on the property.
[41:42] So we've done final inspections, they had all of the stormwater inspected, the sod has taken beautifully, and they are just looking for the release of their funds.
[42:03] All right, let me have a motion to raise the remaining bond, I guess.
[42:10] Yep, I move that the planning board, what I'm moving.
[42:16] I move that the planning board approve the 115 Brimstone Lane stormwater management bond release request.
[42:23] Thank you. All those in favor?
[42:27] Shias.
[42:28] Promenius.
[42:29] Rupinion.
[42:31] And Shkurius.
[42:34] Right.
[42:37] Let's see.
[42:38] Next up.
[42:39] I don't think we had anything on battery storage.
[42:42] I think that's just on there, but any elements.
[42:44] We don't have anything on battery energy storage.
[42:48] Well, just I'll slide right into master.
[42:53] So the open space plan is progressing. We will be having an input session on the 15th of October to present the goals, objectives and action plan about a week ahead of time or so we should have a draft plan up.
[43:13] If anybody has feedback, you can send it directly to me, or if none of you have anything to do on a Thursday,
[43:20] come on out to the Fairbank and have your stuff heard.
[43:26] I think, so also the week before the Liberty Lage Suitaro Advisory Committee is holding their second input session
[43:35] to present their draft recommendations in advance of the submission of their report.
[43:41] That's not a specific master plan item, but it's tied back to a few different things in the master plan.
[43:48] We're still waiting to hear if we get the money from the economic bond bill for the Route 20 zoning work.
[43:57] That would be about $150,000 and we would use that to hire a consultant to start doing some visioning and public engagement.
[44:04] and then this is sort of tied to the master plan at the next meeting I will be bringing forward some language to put on the springtown meeting warrant to sort of massage the construction hours that are in our zoning bylaw.
[44:24] The board and the zoning board have been approving hours that are not necessarily in alignment
[44:33] with what's in the by-law, specifically Saturday hours, and I think that though the existing
[44:42] hours in the by-law are something that probably go back many years, and we don't get a lot
[44:50] of Saturday work, but there are a few folks who do do some, so we just want to kind of
[44:56] get things into alignment with them.
[45:00] I've been putting forward and make that sort of all line up. It's something the building inspector and I have talked about a little bit so. That will be not hopefully it won't be a surprise now. So there's my administrative update and master plan rolled into one. All right, fantastic. You're cruising along me, agenda.
[45:20] All right. Citizens comments none received. We had minutes from last meeting.
[45:28] or in the top of their minutes. Any comments from anyone on those?
[45:33] One small typo.
[45:37] All right.
[45:39] Some of us here sell, so we don't notice the typos.
[45:43] And of course I wrote it down, and I don't know what I did with where I wrote it down.
[45:50] It's supposed to be the word two, and it's T, just T. Sorry.
[46:00] No, it was just it should have been two and it's just yeah, that's fine. Just I'm sure we can mind it. It's right. I just yeah, I wrote it down now. I don't know what I did with it. So sorry.
[46:11] All right.
[46:12] Problem.
[46:12] You have a motion to move.
[46:14] I move that the planning board approve the meeting minutes from September 9, 2026, as amended.
[46:20] Second.
[46:21] All in favor.
[46:23] Shia, yes.
[46:24] Roman, aye.
[46:25] Rupeni and yes.
[46:27] Sugar, aye.
[46:30] Okay.
[46:31] Any committee member updates?
[46:34] I have none.
[46:36] We do have the first meeting of the CPC, and I think that's probably right.
[46:44] in the same time frame as all this open space and Suitaro.
[46:49] 7 October.
[46:51] 7 October, yes.
[46:52] It's the week before.
[46:54] We've got quite a few requests this year, and then also I just wanted to mention I went
[46:59] to a seminar hosted by MACC on the BESS, a very interesting division of who controls what
[47:08] relative to energy sighting board and the department of energy. So at some point, you know,
[47:15] I'll be interested to see what you have to say about all this, um, Adam. It was very interesting,
[47:21] anyways. Just throw that out there. It'll be, it'll be a challenge if we ever, if we ever have
[47:28] to deal with it. And I don't see it happening here. Just my opinion.
[47:36] Um, and I said I hadn't
[47:37] on, but actually there is rail trail maintenance going on this week based on postings from
[47:44] the rail trail.
[47:45] Can maybe the last committee meeting was during our last meeting, so actually it wasn't
[47:48] there, but I know that's been up on the website.
[47:51] Actually, don't know where it's on the trail, but anyway, it is on the way to the GPW is maintaining
[47:56] the whole trail.
[47:57] Is it?
[47:58] Yeah.
[47:59] They're they're going from.
[48:01] They're doing.
[48:02] They started from the concrete.
[48:03] They heard Tuesday.
[48:04] Yeah.
[48:05] From the concrete.
[48:05] Bruce Freeman, you're talking about I see okay great. They're they're mowing back the edges and they're cleaning off the pine pine needles and and other things to make it a little bit safer.
[48:20] All right, we already had the Ministry of Report. We have well you also told us our future agenda items.
[48:28] I think that is it. Our next meeting is the 14th and the 28th.
[48:36] Anyone knows their output. I will not be available on the 20.
[48:42] Are we doing costumes in the 20s?
[48:47] I don't want to be the only one.
[48:51] Make sure you can dress up with real dreaming.
[48:57] We need to check with each other.
[48:58] You have to dress up with the same thing.
[49:03] All right, you can just switch the art behind you.
[49:06] All right.
[49:10] Well, before we get ourselves in trouble with costumes, we will go on with the sub-replaining
[49:17] more meeting for Wednesday, September 23rd.
[49:19] Thanks everyone.
[49:20] See you in October.
[49:21] Thank you.
[49:22] Thank you.
[49:23] Thank you.
[49:23] G'day.