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Good afternoon.
Okay.

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» Good afternoon. Today is Monday, August
17th, 2026, and the time is 12 p.m. and

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I call this meeting to order.
>> Will you take the role, please, Mary?

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» Mrs. Pabal
>> here.

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» Miss Pabar, I apologize. Mr. Kramer,
>> here.

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» Mrs. Dan,
>> here. Everyone, um, please stand. And we

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have today with us um Pastor Larry
Strobble who is from Hope Church who

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will offer us a prayer. And if you'll go
to the podium please sir. Thank you.

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[clears throat]
>> Lord we invite your presence to come and

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be in the midst of our meeting. As we
deliberate we pray that you would give

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us wisdom.
Your wisdom helps us to know not only

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what to do, but how
and most of all when to do things.

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Lord, I thank you for our officers today
that will be promoted and honored. And I

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pray that you would give them prolonged
and safe careers. In fact, I pray for

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all of our officers who serve our
community that you would give them a

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hedge of protection as they protect us.
And so we commit this meeting into your

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hands. In his name we pray.
>> Amen.

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» Amen.
>> Thank you, sir. And please remain

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standing for the pledge of allegiance.
>> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands, one nation

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under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all.

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on the property.
>> I wouldn't publicly.

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» So, thank you everyone for being here
today. We always love when we get a

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crowd in here and it's our great honor
today to uh be here for the um the

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promotion for Detective Tyler Mantina to
Sergeant and we have a proclamation that

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Fred will read for us.

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Sher Creek Township resolution number
2026.08.17.01

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promotion of full-time police sergeant
Tyler Mantia.

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Whereas the continuing need exists to
maintain proper staffing within Sugar

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Creek Township Police Department and
whereas a vacancy exists with the

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classification of full-time police
sergeant. And whereas a vacancy was

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posted internally for applications in
accordance with township policy and

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current labor contract. Whereas an asset
center was conducted with these

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applications including testing for basic
exercise and review board. And whereas

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all applicants tested reviewed scored
well during the process and Chief Mike

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Brown recommended the nomination for the
appointment of this candidate. And

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whereas Detective Mantia was employed a
full-time officer with Sugar Creek

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Township on May 10th, 20 2020. And
whereas Detective Mantia has shown

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himself to be a dedicated employee and
whereas Detective Mantia meets all

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requirements for his promotion and
accepts full responsibility for the

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position. Now, therefore, be it resolved
that full-time detective Tyler Mantia

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shall be promoted to full-time police
sergeant for the department effective

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August 18, 2026 at the rate of $5063
per hour, payable by weekly on a

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bi-weekly basis, and subject to one-year
probationary period ending August 18,

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2027.
>> I'll make that motion.

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» I second.

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Good. Miss Pterball.
>> Yes. Mr. Kramer.

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» Yes. Mrs. Deception.
>> Yes. Chief Brown, if you'll come up.

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» We'll get out of the way.

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[clears throat]

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» Sarah, Henry, and Miles. Come up.

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» Stay right here.

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All right. No, not yet. On this date,
you are hereby appointed to serve as a

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police sergeant for Sher Creek Township
Police Department pursuant to Ohio

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Revised Code 405.49.
As such, you shall affirm or swear to

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the following. Raise your right hand. I
state your name.

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» I, Tyler Mio.
>> Having been appointed to the office of

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sergeant
>> Having been appointed by the position of

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sergeant,
>> do solemnly swear. do solemnly swear

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» that I will support the Constitution
>> that I will support the Constitution

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» and laws of the United States of America
>> and the laws of the United States of

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America
>> constitution

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» the Constitution
>> and the laws of the state of Ohio

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» and the laws of the state of Ohio
>> and the laws and ordinances

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» and the laws and ordinances
>> of Sugar Creek Township

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» Sugar Creek Township
>> and will faithfully discharge

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» and faithfully discharge
>> the duties of said office

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» duties of said office
>> to the best of my ability

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» to the best of my ability.
>> All right. Congratulations.

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» Thank you.

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» [applause]

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» not

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good.
>> Good job.

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» Good job.
>> Nice work.

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» So, if you'll stay up, we'd like to get
photos of the family with the chief and

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then if you don't mind taking one with
us and then any other extended family,

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whoever you have here, then
>> before. Thank you. always with a little

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bit.
>> First, I just want to say thank you to

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uh especially my family, especially my
wife. Uh all my friends in law

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enforcement, Estus, Sergeant Culver,
everyone here, Clark, uh the trustees,

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thank you for giving me this
opportunity. I missed you. Even Uncle

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Ronnie, thank you. [laughter]

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[snorts]
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Yeah.
>> You know, if you were if you only worked

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somewhere in the township, too.
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» You know,
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» Thank you guys.
>> You got a picture of my parents in

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there.
>> Absolutely.

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» Absolutely.
One more.

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» Okay.
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» Hey, the last time I saw you was out of
baseball.

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» [laughter]

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» Stand up straight. [laughter]
>> Stand up straight.

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» Ready?

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» Beautiful. Beautiful.
>> And would you like a photo with all the

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first responders in it?
>> Okay. Every first responder, anyone that

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come on up [laughter]
>> or soon to be Yeah.

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» in our department. Yeah. Well,
you'll be all right.

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» Is this your chance

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when
you're

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» Come on over here, boy.

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» [laughter]

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» in the middle.
[clears throat]

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» The new fig

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come up here.

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» [laughter]
>> like a shirt.

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[laughter]

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» Anyone else? No.

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[snorts]

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» Next, we have the appointment of
full-time officer Austin Reed. And Jody

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will read that proclamation.
>> Sure. Um, Sugar Creek Township

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resolution number 2026.08.17. 08.17.02

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appointment of full-time police officer
Austin Maria. Whereas the continuing

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need exists to maintain proper staffing
within Sugar Creek Township Police

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Department and whereas a vacancy exists
within the classification of full-time

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police officer and whereas the vacancy
has been posted for application in

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accordance with township policy and
contract or current labor contract and

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whereas an assessment center was
conducted which included testing and

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basic exercises, review board and
personal interviews with the chief of

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police and whereas after re a review of
all candidates, police chief Michael A.

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Brown recommends this appointment and
confirms that there are funds available

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for this position in the 2026 operating
budget. Now, therefore, it is reserved

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that Austin Reed is here hereby
appointed full-time police officer

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effective August 18, 2026 at the pay
rate of $3512

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per hour, payable on bi-weekly basis,
and subject to a one-year probationary

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period ending August 18, 2027.
>> I'll make that motion.

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» I second that.
>> Mr. Kramer,

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» yes.
>> Mrs. But

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» yes,
>> I'm going to get that right eventually.

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I apologize, Mrs. Dan.
>> Yes. All right, Chief.

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[clears throat]

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» Anybody up here? You're good.

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» Don't want to put this.
>> Hey, I appreciate it.

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» All right, hang on just a second. On
this date, you are hereby appointed to

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serve as a full-time police officer for
Sher Creek Township Police Department

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pursuant to the Ohio Revised Code
section number 505.49. 49. As such, you

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shall firm or swear to the following.
Raise your right hand. I state your

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name.
>> I, Austin Lee Reed,

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» do solemnly swear
>> do solemnly swear

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» that I will support the Constitution
>> that I will support the Constitution

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» and laws of the United States of America
>> and laws of the United States of America

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» the Constitution and laws
>> the Constitution and the laws

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» of the state of Ohio
>> of the state of Ohio

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» and the laws and ordinances
>> and the laws and ordinances

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» of Sugar Creek Township
>> of Sugar Creek Township

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» to the best of my ability. to the best
of my ability

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» will discharge the duties
>> will discharge the duties

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» of the office of police officer
>> of the office of police officer.

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» All right. Congratulations.
>> Thank you sir.

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[applause]

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[applause]
>> My son Alexander as you can tell he's a

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big fan of police office as well. So you
might see him here in uh 15 20 years

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something like that. He's ready to
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my mom Cindy, my brother Tim is also
nominated as well. Um, first and

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foremost, I just want to say thank you
to the trustees and the chief Brown. You

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know, this is a big opportunity for me.
I'm very nervous as you can tell, so I

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apologize for that. Um, but like I said,
I'm going to do my absolute best to, you

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know, pull up the duties and walls that
the township has. And, uh, if you see me

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at the battle, don't feel afraid to come
up and say hi. Again, I promise I'll be

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more nervous than you guys will. So, but
thank you all for being here. I

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appreciate it. And God bless.

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[applause]
Just listen slowly.

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Did you want to take that as your
pocket? Why don't you take a picture

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with your phone and then you

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We've never had a young a man like this.
[clears throat and laughter] This is so

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cool.

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Okay, over here. One, two, three.

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This is just the cutest dog picture
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[clears throat]

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» Okay. We had the white brothers come up
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» all right

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» we suffered Yes,

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» picture was awesome.

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» [laughter]

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» Joe, do you want to get on the side or
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» Oh, I guess. Sure.
>> You got more experience than I do with

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this one. [laughter]

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Congratulations.

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» We are excited.
>> I appreciate it.

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» And we thank all the family and friends
for being here. You do not have to stay

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for the rest of our meeting, but you're
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So, thank you all for being here.
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» You want to take a five minute recess?
Sure. We'll take a five minute recess so

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we can say hi and

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is now um 12:26 and we'll be back in
session here and our five minutes turned

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into more like 10 or 15 but it was a
good break. So thank you.

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All right with that we will start with
our um reports. So start with the

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administrator.

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Well, I was excited to see that
apparently we're going to widen

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Wilmington Pike.

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» Well, that's always been part of the
plan.

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» It was always part of the plan. Is that
>> now phase two or three?

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» No, that's down the road.
>> Still down the road.

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» Yeah,
>> that'll be part of the interchange

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project.
>> But it looks like that's going to

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happen.
>> Yes,

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» eventually.
>> Yep. still some funds to be raised.

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» I hear
>> the I think the biggest

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what came out of that meeting is
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it they're taking at least 24 to 28
spaces off the front of Cracker Barrel.

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On the other side of the street, they'll
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uh the parking in Freddy's and
>> Bob Evans

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» Bob Evans
>> and the entrance to that plaza u down

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near Tropical Smoothie.
>> So they're big changes that are going to

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affect those businesses definitely.

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» Is Cracker Barrel thinking about moving
then? I know there was some discussion

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at one point.
>> I can't speak for Cracker Barrel. I

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don't know. I I in the in the meeting
they felt that it would be a complete

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take of the parcel
which will put them out of business.

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» Would this reopen the options
for fixing the 675 Willington

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interchange?
>> That's part of the plan is to No, the

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options aren't going to change. It's
done.

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» Okay.
>> Yeah. It'll be a divergent diamond

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» whether we want it or not. Yeah, it is
going to be a

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major learning experience for the public
when that road is done because you're

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going to be as you head north when you
get at Miami Valley South,

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» you're going to move to the left side of
the road completely

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under the overpass and then uh up near
the plazas, move back to the right side,

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» which is like Austin Landing, but it's
>> very similar, but You're going to

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continuously move.
>> Yeah, it's closer to

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um Union Center Boulevard would be the
closest one in design.

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» Okay.
Has Stephanie Golf and and Brandon

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Huddleston have they arranged a meeting?
>> They have not.

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» Okay.
And since you got it in your report and

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I'm thinking about it, so is 2 o'clock
Thursday at pro it's it's confirmed. And

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um can we go to prosecutor Hayes? Can we
go to their office? Sure.

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» Okay. All right. I will confirm that
then.

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» Is that referring to the baby box?
>> The baby box. Yes. So, uh um the the

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contract came back and they changed
things without telling us they were

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going to change things again. So, uh
actually the prosecutor's office Yeah. I

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don't know if you want to go into a lot
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» it feels like we're very close. We're
within six to 10 miles.

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» Um [laughter]

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he's changing
>> compared from where we started. We're

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very close.
>> We are very close. We're hoping a final

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meeting virtual with them will we'll
finalize the deal.

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» So we're hoping we walk away with with
signatures or agreement for signatures

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and able to move on.
>> Okay.

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» So fingers crossed for Thursday. We we
need it.

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» I feel like every time you've submitted
something it's they've it changed. It's

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the frustrating part is they they we
came to an understanding on certain

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items that were removed
>> and with the latest latest round they

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put them right back in.
>> So it's like they think we're not re

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rereading the uh the latest greatest
>> cont. We don't know and that's why we

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want to have that conversation.
>> So we don't know if it's just their

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their legal counsel that's doing it. We
don't we don't know quite what's uh what

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the holdup is. But we're we're getting
all the indulge parties together on the

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phone at the same time for them.
>> In talking with other communities that

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have come to an agreement with them,
they've undergone very similar

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problems.
>> And we know of two other townships that

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had the uh um identification language
removed saying that we are not held

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responsible. So those are
non-negotiables as they're required by

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Ohio Revised Code and they they keep
trying to sneak it back in. So that's

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that's the biggest thing.
>> The the only way we could agree to their

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indemnification is if we took a million
dollars

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uh cash out of our funding and placed it
in an account dedicated just for

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protecting them with indemnity indemnity
>> for and just leave it there for like 10

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years.
>> Leave it there in perpetuity. In

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» perpetuity as long as we had the box, we
would have to leave it there.

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» So
>> and that's not an option. I wasn't

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planning to come back to you too and
say, "Can we take a tenth of our our

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operating budget?" And I'm sure the
chiefs would love that, too. So, I

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[laughter]
>> You're wise not to bring that to us.

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» That is a non-negotiable.
>> Okay.

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» So, we car's report. Cara is out today.
Um,

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she should be back tomorrow.
>> Okay.

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What about [snorts] Rich's report? which
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» the reszoning of the Rumbl property has
been withdrawn.

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» It's been resubmitted.
>> They withdrew.

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» So, we our concern was it had been
almost a year that that they had

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submitted and been tabled
>> and there's been a lot of changes with

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the traffic impact study and all that.
So, we asked them to withdraw that. They

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did that and now they have resubmitted a
new application.

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» Okay. We should have it to the zoning
commission. I want to say October,

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November, somewhere in there.
>> I thought it was dead when I saw that

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was.
>> Yeah, it says it's been withdrawn. I was

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going to ask about that.

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» Okay.
>> Okay.

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» Uh, anything on with the fiscal officer
then?

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» No, Rich is traveling. He was hoping to
be back in town by now, but he's not. He

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didn't make it back.
>> Okay.

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Fire.

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So, one one more time, and I'm probably
sure that you've done this. How long is

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our ladder truck going to be out of
commission?

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» Uh, initially state it could be three
months or more. I reached out to him

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today via email. I haven't heard that to
get try to specific time frame, but soon

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as I know something, I'll make a phone
call to them after this meeting.

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» And in that period of time, we're going
to rely on mutual aid. Is that correct?

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» Station 72 has a backup engine. We will
not have a ladder truck service. So,

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[snorts] we'll rely on mutual aid,
Washington,

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but it'll be an automatic response.
>> Okay. If needed. Um, I did get we did

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receive the check from the insurance
company for the repairs. Um, I wanted

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them to wait until after the repairs
were complete to make the payment.

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» Sure.
>> To directly to uh Heritage.

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They wanted to go ahead and get the
check cut and it's still made out to

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Heritage, but they sent it to us to
hold. It's valid for 60 days. I told him

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it's going to be a stale check at that
point. She said, "That's fine. We have

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to do it this way. If it's not done
within the 60 days, we'll reissue a

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second check. So, that's where we're at.
>> Want to know why insurance costs so

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much?
>> Yeah.

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» Okay.
>> Any questions? Thank you, Chief.

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» All right. Police.
>> I have nothing.

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Well, I'll make you come up to the
podium.

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[laughter]
So, just curious what kind of time

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frame. Um, so, so now you have two
vacancies coming up in your detective

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department. So, what does the process
look like? Because we're losing Mantia's

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moving up and Gro is leaving. So, uh,
will Leslie be in there by herself?

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Like, what's what's kind of your vision?
What's going to happen? Okay.

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[clears throat]
>> So, Paul's got two more weeks.

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» I've already posted. So the two
detectives and the detective sergeant

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position three spots are specialized
just like the school resource officer.

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So I've advertised it all in house,
right? So we've posted it. Um so far

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none of the sergeants have put in for it
um for the sergeants position. So we'll

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fill that rather quickly. Um and then
whoever goes in the detective section um

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Sergeant Black has the opportunity to go
into one of the two vacancies and then

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Antia, it's all about Senori, right?
Antia will get what's left. Um, so I'll

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probably later this week post the
detective position that's now vacant

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because of Antia's promotion. So, it's
all it's all and then we'll see who puts

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in for that interview process.
Everything's done in house though.

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» Okay, that's great. Thank you.
>> So, where do we stand on um how many

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open positions?
>> So, total right, our authorized strength

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is 19. This brings us to 18 for two
weeks and then we'll

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» Oh, then Paul we'll be back to 17. Yeah.
>> So, I personally want to thank you for

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sending the text saying the parade was
cancelled since I was there and there

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was nobody else there [laughter]
and I was feeling a little

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» like really early.
>> I did because I was picking I wanted to

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make sure you were there and all that
stuff. So anyway, I didn't want you to

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get there without me being there. So
that text was very nice and I appreciate

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it immensely.

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» All right. Thank you, Chief.
>> Thank you.

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» All right. Roads and services.
[clears throat]

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» Oh no. Oh no.
Uh Justin, I have a question.

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[clears throat]
When I talked to to Chief Brown about

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washing the nines, I have one concept of
what it is. What is it when you wash the

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nines?
>> It's an aggregate limestone. It's just

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» so size.
>> Oh, I thought it was guns.

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» No, it's just
>> Okay,

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» that's it. Please use it for our third.
>> Oh, okay.

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» Um, I got a comment uh [snorts]
Sunday Sunday morning from a gentleman

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who really appreciated you repaving the
road there in Riveridge, too. So, I had

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got got approached and they said that
it's you did a great job and they love

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it.
>> You painted painted paint.

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» Yes. So, another compliment on your job.
>> And I'd like to add another compliment.

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I mentioned it to Justin before the
meeting, but uh if you haven't noticed

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on the bike hike paths in front of the
high school and um like every every road

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break, there are now um stop signs like
their little miniature um stop signs for

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the um pedestrians and the bike
bicyclist, scooter people. Uh so that

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just to increase safety. That was
something that came out of the school

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safety board. So, thank you for doing
that. and he had to work with Stephanie

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Golf to find out where all the lines
were. [laughter]

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» It's always harder than it should be. I
think

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» Yeah. So, thank you.

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» All right. I think

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All right, trustees.

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Um, I was just going to say I was
disappointed that the parade was

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cancelled, but at least they ended up
having a nice festival. I guess it was

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hot and muggy and I don't know if it was
as busy as it normally is, but they

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still had a pretty good crowd, so that
was nice. Um, I did get to go to the

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Green County Fair and watch some of the
cow um, shows, so that was that's always

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interesting and fun. Um, [clears throat]
I put my glasses on so I can see. Has

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anybody has there been any more
information from Nathan with the Boy

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Scouts and the little ceremony?
>> They were going to have their first

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planning meeting, but we haven't
followed. Well, they said the the junior

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ROTC is doing something at the school,
so they deferred to them was the last

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that I
>> responding. And what they've always what

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they've done, what the school's done in
the past is just something at the flag

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pole in front of the high school. So, I
believe that's probably what they're

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anticipating, but I don't know if
they've reached out to the Boy Scouts,

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» but certainly not to any community
leaders that I know of.

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» Okay. Yeah, I I know he had sent an
email and then I hadn't heard anything,

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so just to make sure that I wasn't
missing anything. Um, and then

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I [clears throat] mean school already
started. I I can't believe it's already

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almost the end of August, but the um the
Friday night football game 911 is at

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home. So, it's the military appreciation
night. So, here soon there'll be a

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Google sheet going out for the data
collection of any police or fire that's

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former military that wants to
participate um as a hometown hero.

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Typically in the past it's been one
person in our community, but this year

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the football club decided to do all
that. So I spoke about it a few months

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back, but that'll be coming out soon.
Um, and then I was just wondering after

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when we met on August 7th at our
meeting, um, did we put the public

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notice out of all of that for when the
meeting's going to be about that? on the

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be on the website and then during the
meeting giving notice gives public

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notice at the same time.
>> Okay. Yeah. Um I just want to make sure

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that we were following it because it
says newspaper, social media or website.

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So make sure that we were with that. Um
and then let's see. Oh, I was going to

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ask Cara, but when you guys were talking
about the signs at Kroger, did anybody

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ever reach out to anybody about all the
trash that's up there in that pond at

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Kroger? kind of remember we talked about
it a while ago.

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» Which pond?
>> Um the the Kroger. It's kind of like

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between
>> pond

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» between that and the Dunkin Donuts. They
actually went in and cleaned it out

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close to a month ago now.
>> Did our guys clean it out?

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» No. No. Broers did.
>> Yeah.

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» They mowed everything down and cleaned
it all out.

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» Yep.
>> Still looks kind of

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I I caught my eye the other day. So, um
but yeah, that's it. Not much. That's it

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for now. Unless anybody has any
questions.

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» Uh
we had the uh Belbrook Sugar Creek

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Chamber of Commerce golf outing.
It was uh 32 teams. It was the most

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teams ever held there. It went off uh
absolutely like clockwork. Um and uh the

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new athletic director from Wright State
who's moved to Sugar Creek Township

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participated. So we're getting uh people
to play in the event that never would

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have played before. So uh good time was
had by all. Uh two, I would like to

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nominate Cara Tilford
for a

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» one of our customer service award. Okay.
Uh Dan Deval, a builder here in uh the

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community, uh approached me and told me
that he deals with zoning in Warren

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County and Montgomery County and said,
"Of all the people that he deals with in

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zoning, she is the most diligent and
helps him find a solution faster than

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anyone else." And I said, "Seriously?"
And he said, "It's night and day. She is

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so far ahead of everybody else." So, uh,
I thought an unsolicited person comes up

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and tells you somebody's doing a good
job. I think they should get an award

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for that.
>> I'll second that.

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» Do you want to take a vote? Do we
>> for customer appreciation?

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» Uh, we don't typically if we get
>> Okay. All right.

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» And again, thank you, uh, Chief Brown
for notifying me why the parade wasn't

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there, but I was had a good spot. Thank
you.

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» [laughter]
>> Can I hear the bell hops closing?

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» It is.
>> That is really sad.

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» Heather is such a a
>> She is

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» staple to the community.
>> Uh and that's the end of this month.

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» The end of the month. Yes.
>> Is there any celebration?

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» Is there a kind of a at the end or?
>> I do not know.

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» Okay.
>> All right.

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» It's not known for parties.

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They they did used to have a lot of
lunchons, a lot back in the day.

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» Celebrations.
>> Chief, if you if you'll look on your end

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and I'll look on my end and see if we
find if there's going to be anything. If

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not, maybe maybe we suggest that she has
a little open house.

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» Okay.
>> Yeah, I'd love that.

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» I did notice all the art inside is 50%
off now, so they must be trying to like

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get rid of everything.
>> Yeah,

432
00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:11,040
» it is.
I attended the Dayton Development

433
00:35:08,079 --> 00:35:15,680
Coalition had a base tour um option the
same day they were off playing golf. So

434
00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:19,599
I I I spent the whole day uh looking at
the base, but I was able to meet the new

435
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:26,320
88th Air Base Wing Commander and the
445th new Air Base Wing or 445th uh

436
00:35:23,119 --> 00:35:30,640
commander also. So it was um a very good
tour and everyone's very enthusiastic.

437
00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:34,320
They've all been there less than um a
month and a half, so they're all brand

438
00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:38,000
new to their position. So there's a lot
of enthusiasm on base right now, but

439
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:43,760
they are all saying that they would like
to step up um community relationships

440
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:49,280
and having events that they bring in uh
local local jurisdictions with uh um

441
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:52,880
with base and have um sometimes they'll
have events at the club, that sort of

442
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:56,880
thing. So I'll keep you posted if I hear
of those sort of things, but that's

443
00:35:54,560 --> 00:36:02,000
always great. And I was also there at
the Grand County Fair, participated in

444
00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:06,240
that and we met about the baby box. Uh,
and the we had our our legal council

445
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:10,400
came actually to the township and we had
a meeting last week and that prompted

446
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:15,599
the tea meeting that we're going to have
this week. So that should be good. the

447
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:21,359
uh marijuana dispensary discussion, just
as a reminder, that will now be on

448
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:25,599
October 19th, and that's normally a 12
noon uh meeting, but that one's going to

449
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:30,000
be moved to 7 p.m. so that we can get
more um since we had the other meeting

450
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:34,079
in during the day, we wanted to have one
during the evening to get more

451
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:39,119
participation from the public. So, make
sure that's on your calendars because

452
00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:45,040
that is a change from our usual.
And uh is uh Sergeant Guerrero still

453
00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:45,839
Friday at 11:30 to and that will that be
here?

454
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:51,760
» Yes.
>> Okay. Gotcha. All right. So I got that.

455
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:56,240
» So the meeting on 17th is at night.
>> At night. 700 p.m. at night.

456
00:36:53,680 --> 00:37:00,720
» Oh, I saw him and his little girl at
meet the team for football. She is so

457
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:04,320
cute. She was in her little cheerleader
uniform. So I got a picture of her and

458
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:09,119
Kay. It was really cute.
>> Okay, that's awesome.

459
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:13,359
And then uh I wanted to bring up for
just consideration. So u when I was at

460
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:19,200
the Dayton Development Coalition, the
the base tour, I met a lady that

461
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:23,839
specializes her business, she was a
prior military and her business is doing

462
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:27,440
strategic planning, that sort of thing.
And Barry and I were talking. I was

463
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:31,040
like, well, we could reach out and find
out what her price point is and what we

464
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:37,839
want to do. But we were kind of
discussing the the pros and cons if we

465
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:44,480
should do that because uh traditionally
we are a open space green community is

466
00:37:41,599 --> 00:37:50,240
sort of what the the traditional Sugar
Creek Township like our our main uh

467
00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:54,560
focus would be on and we were just
talking about what how would we

468
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,560
what would we make that process look
like? So we're still

469
00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:00,640
» strategic planning.
>> Yeah. For strategic planning.

470
00:37:57,839 --> 00:38:05,920
» So interesting. I went to um I've been
looking at other communities to see if

471
00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:10,800
they have posted on their website and
even the larger communities uh

472
00:38:07,839 --> 00:38:14,560
Westchester Township has one for their
fire department

473
00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:21,200
but not for any other aspect of the
community which was surprising to me. Um

474
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:27,440
I forwarded it to to the chief to have
him look at it and see what he thought.

475
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:30,800
Um
it's

476
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:37,040
It it's an interesting process. Is that
fair? What they went through uh to to to

477
00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:44,000
develop this plan and I don't know that
it says a whole lot in the end. Um

478
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:48,320
there's a lot of words, but I don't know
that it says a whole lot. So, it was

479
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:54,400
interesting. So, we're looking at it in
other communities to to see what they

480
00:38:51,280 --> 00:39:02,400
look like, uh,
what they what they put together and and

481
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:04,880
if if there is an actual plan.
Um,

482
00:39:03,119 --> 00:39:09,280
» one one of ours, I don't know if it's
police or fire, has a vision, I think.

483
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:12,000
» Yeah, they have mission statements or
vision plans.

484
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:16,800
» Yeah. All I was saying is it just needs
to be consistent like like every

485
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:20,160
department should at least I mean I'm
not saying at least but if one

486
00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:23,359
department already has a vision then we
all should or it should be removed. You

487
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:26,960
know what I'm saying? Like it's just
inconsistent across the board.

488
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:31,680
» I I think
>> I I guess the question would be do you

489
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:37,520
want it to be a vision statement or a
mission statement? and they may be the

490
00:39:33,839 --> 00:39:42,800
same or similar, but I think a mission
statement speaks to the the mindset of

491
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,680
the department.
>> Yeah, I think if you were just picking

492
00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:48,480
one, I would think it would be the
mission.

493
00:39:46,240 --> 00:39:51,680
» I would agree.
>> The mission is kind of like what you're

494
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:54,480
doing, but the vision is kind of like
what you seek to do. You know what I

495
00:39:53,520 --> 00:40:00,240
mean?
>> But I just Yeah. I either we we all have

496
00:39:57,599 --> 00:40:02,640
it or we don't have it at all or just
very inconsistent when you go through

497
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:06,720
the web page.
>> They can work toward that. Absolutely.

498
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,920
» So I don't know. Do you want to reach
out and get a price point what that

499
00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:12,079
would even look like or you just want to
continue?

500
00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:13,680
» I don't know that we need to go outside.
I think

501
00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:19,119
» just do it internally.
>> We can we can look at other communities

502
00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:25,200
and borrow their processes to get to
where we need to be. I think the the

503
00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:30,359
both departments have a good mindset,
mission,

504
00:40:27,359 --> 00:40:30,359
uh

505
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:37,599
where what they how they want to provide
services, but to to journalize it in

506
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:41,359
words would be good.
>> I have templates also that I could

507
00:40:39,903 --> 00:40:43,680
[snorts] provide and then people could
look at them and see if something

508
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:48,000
» great
>> work towards, you know, if it fit with

509
00:40:45,839 --> 00:40:52,800
what they thought they had.
>> Yeah, I think it's

510
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:58,079
I I don't I I
personally, again, this is personal, I

511
00:40:55,520 --> 00:41:02,560
think sometimes they're just superfluous
and just a lot of words put out that are

512
00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:07,440
a bunch of catchphrases and and they're
not actually implementing those things.

513
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:10,319
So, whatever we put, I think it it needs
to be carried through to to the

514
00:41:09,599 --> 00:41:16,240
day-to-day
>> or it could be a reflection of like you

515
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:20,560
had a fire levy what year two years ago.
It could be a reflection of whatever you

516
00:41:18,079 --> 00:41:24,240
promoted, not you, but like the
organization promoted when they were

517
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:28,560
trying to pass the levy. Y and it could
reflect like this is what we did did or

518
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:32,319
you know what I mean? Like it it should
all tie in.

519
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:36,800
» So give me an example.
>> So I know what the fire issues were.

520
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,400
» So you want that as our
>> strategic?

521
00:41:37,839 --> 00:41:41,520
» No.
>> Oh, I'm sorry.

522
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:44,560
» No, we we're not talking strategic plan
at all. We're just talking about a

523
00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:50,720
mission. Barry's just saying that it
should be relevant. And so I'm agreeing

524
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:55,359
saying if we said we're going to do X Y
and Z then if we're going to make it

525
00:41:52,880 --> 00:42:00,560
relevant let's mesh that like if we said
we're going to go buy a ladder truck or

526
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:04,800
whatever mesh it together so it's
relevant and we're actually doing

527
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:08,160
» in the mission what we said we
>> it's not a strategic but a mission

528
00:42:07,359 --> 00:42:12,560
» I think that's what we're
>> and I I don't think it needs to be three

529
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:16,800
pages it can be very short very brief
you guys have got a saying miss uh

530
00:42:14,319 --> 00:42:21,484
caring professionals
Clearly, it's engraved in your brain.

531
00:42:19,464 --> 00:42:21,484
[laughter]

532
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,440
» Yes.
>> I mean, typically it's the five W's,

533
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,440
like who we are, what we're going to do,
why, like, whatever.

534
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:32,640
» Yep.
>> It could be very simple.

535
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:37,440
» Y
one thing that I think is important for

536
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:42,319
our community is community connectivity
and uh um collaboration. And what I mean

537
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:47,359
by that is like our bike hike path
initiative trying to connect to the

538
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:51,520
communities around us. Our um our first
like our mutual responding with with our

539
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:56,560
surrounding communities, that sort of
thing. So I I would say that probably

540
00:42:53,680 --> 00:43:00,720
would be a core value of the township.
So So those kind of things it probably

541
00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:04,240
wouldn't be bad to Yes.
>> I mean those are obvious, but but if

542
00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:09,359
it's stated that now we have a new
employee. We just had a new fire fire

543
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:13,200
person and if you saw what those core
values were of where we're trying to go,

544
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:18,960
I think you feel more of a
>> sense of connected to the organization.

545
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:22,240
» And then I guess too, do you just want I
mean when I say you I don't mean just

546
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:26,400
you, but I mean like all of us. Is it
just going to be a mission that supports

547
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,920
all of us or do we want like each
department? It

548
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:31,599
» should be each department,
>> right? But I'm just saying those are

549
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:35,920
things that should be put so we just
have a clear understanding of where

550
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,920
we're going with it. Yep.

551
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,760
Yeah, I wasn't here for the previous
meeting, so I wasn't sure what

552
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,880
» Okay.
>> where we were going.

553
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:48,000
» I just wanted to follow up figure out
>> what what the direction is. And and um I

554
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:52,400
I don't know. Even if we don't hire out,
it would still maybe be good to have a

555
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:55,680
work session where we specifically focus
on that and have somebody facilitate

556
00:43:54,640 --> 00:44:00,720
that probably.
>> Sure.

557
00:43:57,359 --> 00:44:04,720
» Okay, let's proceed with that.
All right. Next, we'll move to Oh,

558
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:08,560
anything else before we go on? Did you
have anything, Barry? Okay. All right.

559
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:12,960
Public comments limited to five minutes
per person. Agenda related business

560
00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:19,200
only.
>> All right. Old business

561
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:24,480
now that the school's back in session.
>> So, interesting. I got a I got an email

562
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:27,920
from
Doug Ked

563
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:33,359
the end of last week wanted to know if
we were meeting today with it. I said,

564
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:37,119
"No, you guys didn't give me a
confirmation for anything ever." So,

565
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,800
we're circulating it again, trying to
get something on the books.

566
00:44:38,319 --> 00:44:45,400
» Okay.
>> Talking to the city manager, he sees no

567
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,400
value in it.

568
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:53,280
» So, we'll see what happens.
>> Guess it won't be a brook.

569
00:44:51,119 --> 00:44:58,079
» Yeah. I just think that we put it out
there and who comes comes, right? Like,

570
00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:02,720
at least it looks like we're trying to
work collaboratively. that worked come

571
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:08,480
out very smoothly, but because there are
some city folks that would meet with us.

572
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:11,920
So,
>> yeah, Bel Brook uh they held it the last

573
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,560
time.
>> Yeah.

574
00:45:12,319 --> 00:45:20,000
» Was that at their place?
>> So, yeah, but I mean they they sponsored

575
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:24,240
it. I thought they were all in. Uh and I
think it's it's always good for us to

576
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:27,680
hear those things, understand what's
going on in those areas, specifically if

577
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,880
there's something going to be on the
ballot.

578
00:45:29,119 --> 00:45:34,160
so that we're aware that something may
be on the ballot before we decide that

579
00:45:33,119 --> 00:45:38,800
we're going to put something on the
ballot. I think that's I think there's

580
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:44,040
great value to that. It brings us
together more as a community, too. We're

581
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,040
like working together.

582
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:51,079
» All right.
>> I'm disappointed to hear that about

583
00:45:48,079 --> 00:45:51,079
city.

584
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:58,319
» All right. Next, we'll move to consent
agenda items, which includes the payment

585
00:45:55,280 --> 00:46:02,800
of bills, last meeting minutes, and the
appointment of fire department staff

586
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:05,440
Zachary Yoast. And I don't believe
there's anything we need to pull out for

587
00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:09,359
that.
>> Any discussion? Okay. Well, I'll make a

588
00:46:07,599 --> 00:46:13,680
motion that we accept the consent agenda
items as presented.

589
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,960
» I second that.
>> Mr. Kramer, yes. Miss Pablo,

590
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:20,640
» yes.
>> Mrs. Denn,

591
00:46:18,079 --> 00:46:24,079
» yes.
All right. Is there any other

592
00:46:21,839 --> 00:46:28,160
discussion? I do know we'll have an
executive session at the end, so we will

593
00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:32,640
do that. But next, we'll move to public
comments limited to five minutes per

594
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:38,520
person, township related business.
Denise,

595
00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:38,520
» otherwise known as lefty.

596
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:45,440
» And thank you, Chief, because I'm not
sure she could get this.

597
00:46:44,319 --> 00:46:49,359
» I don't know if you're talking about
composting. I was going to mention that.

598
00:46:47,119 --> 00:46:52,160
So is that well we'll just keep that in
your mind too because I I I did mention

599
00:46:51,119 --> 00:47:01,440
that at the last meeting.
>> So Denise Moore Valley Drive my question

600
00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:09,359
is about the school the old school and
I'm a little fuzzy on the situation

601
00:47:04,720 --> 00:47:14,880
there. It seems kind of I don't know. It
just seems odd the way that whole thing

602
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:18,800
is taking place. So, I didn't know if we
were involved in in that at all.

603
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:24,240
» Not at all. It's insane.
>> As a taxpayer

604
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:29,520
who supported [snorts] the school, I
understand that the school has expended

605
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:35,040
a bunch of money on this,
but I also am a taxpayer that's

606
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:40,560
contributed to that in some fashion, I
think. And I'm curious how that whole

607
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:45,200
deal was taking place. It just seems
kind of phony. They did try to reach out

608
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:48,560
to the community. I know there were
multiple schoolboard meetings where they

609
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:53,119
they brought people in and they did ask
for input. Uh what I I know initially

610
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:56,720
they were asking what uh what
potentially the old Sugar Creek school

611
00:47:54,880 --> 00:48:00,240
building could be used for. Um because
it was not ADA compliant. It was old.

612
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:04,160
There were a lot of issues with the
building itself. And they they did reach

613
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:08,000
out to Sugar Creek at one point and
asked did we have any interest in

614
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:11,760
participating in that whole discussion.
And we we already knew that the Lions

615
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:16,560
Club had quite a bit of interest in in
the land personally. And uh at at the

616
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:21,680
time the trustees we all discussed it
and said that there was no um no action

617
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:24,480
like nothing that we wanted to to do
with that with that piece of property.

618
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:29,520
» Okay.
>> So we were involved that way. But yes, I

619
00:48:27,359 --> 00:48:33,359
um after that we were sort of hands off
and like you do your thing and they

620
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:37,280
coordinated with the city on what they
wanted to do with the building that way.

621
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:44,079
» But you're right, there was no vote. the
way the whole thing was going down

622
00:48:40,079 --> 00:48:48,880
» the way buying it for a dollar here and
this person

623
00:48:45,119 --> 00:48:53,920
» a little bit and I might have it a but
if they would have put it for public

624
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:58,880
auction
then it would have gone to whomever

625
00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:01,920
possibly and I think they were trying to
they didn't want it to be a residential

626
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:06,720
area
>> because that's what the citizens

627
00:49:04,720 --> 00:49:13,440
they were very against that becoming
like apartments or whatever.

628
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:17,599
» And if you sell it that way, you can't
control who might buy it and what they

629
00:49:15,359 --> 00:49:19,040
might come back and want to zone it for
and build there.

630
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:24,000
» Okay.
>> So, they

631
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:26,880
it it's a hard process to follow, but
they have been very open about it and

632
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:33,760
they've been meeting about it for
probably almost three years.

633
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:37,119
» Yeah. Yeah. And um the way that it and
this is how I understand it, the way

634
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:42,880
that it's happened is that they have a
little bit of control over what can be

635
00:49:39,839 --> 00:49:47,599
built there now and they want to make it
community centered for the community.

636
00:49:45,839 --> 00:49:51,280
And if it would have sold outside of
that, they could not have control that

637
00:49:50,240 --> 00:49:53,440
sense to me.
>> Yeah. So,

638
00:49:52,079 --> 00:49:59,680
» okay. Well, I didn't know if we were
involved at all. So, I just was curious

639
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:02,960
and what you thought of the situations.
>> Well, I'm very passionate about that

640
00:50:01,119 --> 00:50:06,480
building because I went to school there
>> and I think it's a staple in our

641
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:08,400
community and I wanted like whatever I
just wanted it to stay,

642
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:12,800
» right?
>> But um so I went to a lot of those

643
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:18,720
meetings like
>> a few years back and just to hear and

644
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:22,880
understand and I mean I I know it's out
of compliance like there it would cost a

645
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:27,119
gazillion dollars to
>> I appreciate that. Okay, I appreciate

646
00:50:25,359 --> 00:50:30,079
it. I feel a little bit better now about
it. I I just was picking up hearsay

647
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:35,440
stuff.
>> I know it's it is a sad situation just

648
00:50:33,359 --> 00:50:39,760
because it I feel like our downtown
doesn't have a lot of a historical of

649
00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:43,119
what it once was.
>> Yeah.

650
00:50:40,319 --> 00:50:44,400
» But it takes money and
>> um

651
00:50:43,839 --> 00:50:47,440
» Yeah,
>> that's just not

652
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:52,079
» and and and the building has served a
very good strong purpose for the

653
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:56,880
community for years and years.
>> So it wasn't like it was not being used

654
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,599
appropriately because it
>> right

655
00:50:57,359 --> 00:51:03,525
» it had a really good
>> mission.

656
00:51:01,505 --> 00:51:03,525
[clears throat]

657
00:51:04,559 --> 00:51:13,440
» When you do a mission, I think it's
important that you also do some quality

658
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:17,599
steps that you do as you move through
like let's say you wanted to do a

659
00:51:15,599 --> 00:51:22,000
strategic plan for about a fiveyear
period. So then when you do that, you

660
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:26,400
have different things that you're
measuring your quality about like your

661
00:51:24,319 --> 00:51:32,880
levy. The levy you mentioned that's
that's a quality statement for the

662
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:36,400
mission of the fire department or um
what you mentioned something else. A

663
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:42,319
couple of things you guys mentioned
would be stuff that you would say, okay,

664
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:48,400
this is how we're fulfilling our mission
and our strategic plan. And you're

665
00:51:45,119 --> 00:51:52,960
measuring those things along the way.
And so you can say, well, did we do what

666
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:58,079
we should have done? No. Maybe we need
to do something different this coming

667
00:51:55,760 --> 00:52:01,760
year to make sure that we pick up what
we didn't do. So I think that's an

668
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:05,760
important piece
>> if you do that. I think it's smart.

669
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:10,079
» Thank you.
>> So I'm going to bring out my teacher and

670
00:52:07,359 --> 00:52:13,280
you that's why I said the five W's
because it's the who, what, when, where,

671
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:17,359
why, or how. Like we're going to get
there. So it all ties in. That last one

672
00:52:16,079 --> 00:52:22,319
was an H by the way.
>> I know. But uh but but like that was the

673
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:26,720
who, what, when, where, why.
>> Sometimes how

674
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:30,000
anyways. Yeah. But [clears throat] it it
covers that. Yeah.

675
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:32,480
» And then it all connects and it's great
talking points so everybody's on the

676
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:36,400
same page.
>> Y

677
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:40,400
» and Barry, have you talked to Denise or
will Okay. So maybe before we go into

678
00:52:38,319 --> 00:52:45,119
executive session, you two or do you
want to just address it now? So Okay.

679
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:49,359
Gotcha. But we did discuss it at the
last meeting which I believe you were

680
00:52:46,319 --> 00:52:53,319
not at. So Okay.
All right. Anyone else?

681
00:52:54,640 --> 00:53:00,400
» Okay. Uh we'll move to trustee and staff
discussions.

682
00:52:58,319 --> 00:53:06,240
» Nothing else. Just the need for the
executive session 121 22 G1.

683
00:53:04,720 --> 00:53:09,040
» Okay. Hold that thought. Hold that
thought just in case. Is there anything

684
00:53:07,359 --> 00:53:13,839
else? Okay. All right. We'll go ahead
and though

685
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:18,000
» 12122 G1 to discuss personnel matters.
>> Okay, I'll make that motion.

686
00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:20,640
» I second that.
>> Mr. Kramer.

687
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,559
» Yes, Miss Pterbo.
>> Yes.

688
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:27,680
» Mrs. D.
>> Yes. And the time is 103. And we are not

689
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:30,640
anticipating anyction. We may have
action. Okay. So, you're welcome to stay

690
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:35,599
if you'd like to.
>> Not not anything of any consequence.

691
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:39,200
» Yes. Yes. And I would like uh Justin
Winder to join us.

692
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:44,400
Okay.
>> I mean, I would think college more than

693
00:53:42,559 --> 00:53:49,200
$22 an hour.
>> She can quickly go up pretty quick if

694
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:54,240
she gets those other accommodations.
Like this is first day of the drop. It's

695
00:53:52,240 --> 00:54:00,280
It's a start.
>> You're recording again.

696
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,280
» Yeah, we're good.

697
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:10,319
» Okay. The time is 1:25 and we are out of
executive session.

698
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,520
And you want me to wait in case she's
coming in?

699
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:18,040
» No, go ahead.
>> Okay. We have a resolution number

700
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,040
2026.08.17.06

701
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:28,720
reclassification of roads and services
department car uh personnel for Caroline

702
00:54:25,599 --> 00:54:32,640
» Frolic Frolic. Whereas the continuing
need exists to maintain proper staffing

703
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:37,200
within the Sugar Creek Township roads
and services department and whereas

704
00:54:34,720 --> 00:54:41,760
township admir administrator Barry P.
Tiffany is requesting the

705
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:46,240
reclassification of Caroline Frolic from
part-time service worker one to

706
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:51,520
full-time service worker one and whereas
Mr. Barry P. Tiffany states that the

707
00:54:48,319 --> 00:54:55,839
2026 budget has sufficient funds allowed
for this reclassification.

708
00:54:53,920 --> 00:55:00,960
Now therefore, be it resolved that
Caroline Frolic shall be reclassified to

709
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:06,480
a position of full-time at the pay rate
of $21.50

710
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:10,319
per hour payable on a bi-weekly basis.
It is further resolved this

711
00:55:08,079 --> 00:55:15,760
reclassification shall have an effective
date of December 14th, 2026 and is

712
00:55:13,839 --> 00:55:20,400
subject to a one-year probationary
period ending December 14th, 2026. I

713
00:55:19,599 --> 00:55:24,160
will make that motion.
>> Should be 2027.

714
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:27,920
2027.
>> I'll correct that.

715
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:31,240
» All right. So, I will make that motion
as corrected.

716
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:35,119
» I second that.
>> Mr. Kramer.

717
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:37,280
» Yes.
>> Miss Pitterbone.

718
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:39,839
» Yes.
>> Mrs. Dan.

719
00:55:38,319 --> 00:55:43,440
» Yes.
>> That's all we have. Thank you.

720
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:48,480
» Motion carried. All right. The time is
126 and the meeting is adjourned.

721
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:53,119
» Oh gosh.
>> There we go. [laughter] So first I was

722
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,119
going to give