[0:04] Good afternoon.
Okay.
[0:08] » Good afternoon. Today is Monday, August
17th, 2026, and the time is 12 p.m. and
[0:14] I call this meeting to order.
>> Will you take the role, please, Mary?
[0:18] » Mrs. Pabal
>> here.
[0:19] » Miss Pabar, I apologize. Mr. Kramer,
>> here.
[0:22] » Mrs. Dan,
>> here. Everyone, um, please stand. And we
[0:26] have today with us um Pastor Larry
Strobble who is from Hope Church who
[0:29] will offer us a prayer. And if you'll go
to the podium please sir. Thank you.
[0:36] [clears throat]
>> Lord we invite your presence to come and
[0:41] be in the midst of our meeting. As we
deliberate we pray that you would give
[0:46] us wisdom.
Your wisdom helps us to know not only
[0:50] what to do, but how
and most of all when to do things.
[0:57] Lord, I thank you for our officers today
that will be promoted and honored. And I
[1:04] pray that you would give them prolonged
and safe careers. In fact, I pray for
[1:09] all of our officers who serve our
community that you would give them a
[1:13] hedge of protection as they protect us.
And so we commit this meeting into your
[1:20] hands. In his name we pray.
>> Amen.
[1:23] » Amen.
>> Thank you, sir. And please remain
[1:25] standing for the pledge of allegiance.
>> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
[1:32] United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands, one nation
[1:38] under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all.
[1:52] on the property.
>> I wouldn't publicly.
[1:59] » So, thank you everyone for being here
today. We always love when we get a
[2:02] crowd in here and it's our great honor
today to uh be here for the um the
[2:07] promotion for Detective Tyler Mantina to
Sergeant and we have a proclamation that
[2:13] Fred will read for us.
[2:16] Sher Creek Township resolution number
2026.08.17.01
[2:23] promotion of full-time police sergeant
Tyler Mantia.
[2:27] Whereas the continuing need exists to
maintain proper staffing within Sugar
[2:31] Creek Township Police Department and
whereas a vacancy exists with the
[2:36] classification of full-time police
sergeant. And whereas a vacancy was
[2:42] posted internally for applications in
accordance with township policy and
[2:46] current labor contract. Whereas an asset
center was conducted with these
[2:52] applications including testing for basic
exercise and review board. And whereas
[2:57] all applicants tested reviewed scored
well during the process and Chief Mike
[3:02] Brown recommended the nomination for the
appointment of this candidate. And
[3:07] whereas Detective Mantia was employed a
full-time officer with Sugar Creek
[3:11] Township on May 10th, 20 2020. And
whereas Detective Mantia has shown
[3:18] himself to be a dedicated employee and
whereas Detective Mantia meets all
[3:23] requirements for his promotion and
accepts full responsibility for the
[3:26] position. Now, therefore, be it resolved
that full-time detective Tyler Mantia
[3:33] shall be promoted to full-time police
sergeant for the department effective
[3:38] August 18, 2026 at the rate of $5063
per hour, payable by weekly on a
[3:46] bi-weekly basis, and subject to one-year
probationary period ending August 18,
[3:52] 2027.
>> I'll make that motion.
[3:55] » I second.
[3:59] Good. Miss Pterball.
>> Yes. Mr. Kramer.
[4:03] » Yes. Mrs. Deception.
>> Yes. Chief Brown, if you'll come up.
[4:08] » We'll get out of the way.
[4:12] [clears throat]
[4:20] » Sarah, Henry, and Miles. Come up.
[4:25] » Stay right here.
[4:32] All right. No, not yet. On this date,
you are hereby appointed to serve as a
[4:36] police sergeant for Sher Creek Township
Police Department pursuant to Ohio
[4:40] Revised Code 405.49.
As such, you shall affirm or swear to
[4:45] the following. Raise your right hand. I
state your name.
[4:48] » I, Tyler Mio.
>> Having been appointed to the office of
[4:50] sergeant
>> Having been appointed by the position of
[4:53] sergeant,
>> do solemnly swear. do solemnly swear
[4:56] » that I will support the Constitution
>> that I will support the Constitution
[4:59] » and laws of the United States of America
>> and the laws of the United States of
[5:02] America
>> constitution
[5:04] » the Constitution
>> and the laws of the state of Ohio
[5:06] » and the laws of the state of Ohio
>> and the laws and ordinances
[5:09] » and the laws and ordinances
>> of Sugar Creek Township
[5:11] » Sugar Creek Township
>> and will faithfully discharge
[5:14] » and faithfully discharge
>> the duties of said office
[5:16] » duties of said office
>> to the best of my ability
[5:18] » to the best of my ability.
>> All right. Congratulations.
[5:20] » Thank you.
[5:26] » [applause]
[5:31] » not
[5:36] good.
>> Good job.
[5:36] » Good job.
>> Nice work.
[5:40] » So, if you'll stay up, we'd like to get
photos of the family with the chief and
[5:43] then if you don't mind taking one with
us and then any other extended family,
[5:47] whoever you have here, then
>> before. Thank you. always with a little
[5:51] bit.
>> First, I just want to say thank you to
[5:53] uh especially my family, especially my
wife. Uh all my friends in law
[5:58] enforcement, Estus, Sergeant Culver,
everyone here, Clark, uh the trustees,
[6:06] thank you for giving me this
opportunity. I missed you. Even Uncle
[6:10] Ronnie, thank you. [laughter]
[6:15] [snorts]
>> All right.
[6:30] Yeah.
>> You know, if you were if you only worked
[6:34] somewhere in the township, too.
[laughter]
[6:37] » You know,
>> maybe.
[6:41] » Thank you guys.
>> You got a picture of my parents in
[6:44] there.
>> Absolutely.
[6:45] » Absolutely.
One more.
[7:04] » Okay.
[laughter]
[7:13] » Hey, the last time I saw you was out of
baseball.
[7:15] » [laughter]
[7:22] » Stand up straight. [laughter]
>> Stand up straight.
[7:25] » Ready?
[7:30] » Beautiful. Beautiful.
>> And would you like a photo with all the
[7:32] first responders in it?
>> Okay. Every first responder, anyone that
[7:37] come on up [laughter]
>> or soon to be Yeah.
[7:42] » in our department. Yeah. Well,
you'll be all right.
[7:50] » Is this your chance
[7:54] when
you're
[8:11] » Come on over here, boy.
[8:15] » [laughter]
[8:18] » in the middle.
[clears throat]
[8:23] » The new fig
[8:40] come up here.
[8:51] » [laughter]
>> like a shirt.
[9:06] [laughter]
[9:10] » Anyone else? No.
[9:21] [snorts]
[9:29] » Next, we have the appointment of
full-time officer Austin Reed. And Jody
[9:33] will read that proclamation.
>> Sure. Um, Sugar Creek Township
[9:37] resolution number 2026.08.17. 08.17.02
[9:44] appointment of full-time police officer
Austin Maria. Whereas the continuing
[9:49] need exists to maintain proper staffing
within Sugar Creek Township Police
[9:53] Department and whereas a vacancy exists
within the classification of full-time
[9:59] police officer and whereas the vacancy
has been posted for application in
[10:05] accordance with township policy and
contract or current labor contract and
[10:12] whereas an assessment center was
conducted which included testing and
[10:17] basic exercises, review board and
personal interviews with the chief of
[10:22] police and whereas after re a review of
all candidates, police chief Michael A.
[10:29] Brown recommends this appointment and
confirms that there are funds available
[10:33] for this position in the 2026 operating
budget. Now, therefore, it is reserved
[10:40] that Austin Reed is here hereby
appointed full-time police officer
[10:44] effective August 18, 2026 at the pay
rate of $3512
[10:51] per hour, payable on bi-weekly basis,
and subject to a one-year probationary
[10:57] period ending August 18, 2027.
>> I'll make that motion.
[11:02] » I second that.
>> Mr. Kramer,
[11:05] » yes.
>> Mrs. But
[11:07] » yes,
>> I'm going to get that right eventually.
[11:09] I apologize, Mrs. Dan.
>> Yes. All right, Chief.
[11:19] [clears throat]
[11:23] » Anybody up here? You're good.
[11:36] » Don't want to put this.
>> Hey, I appreciate it.
[11:42] » All right, hang on just a second. On
this date, you are hereby appointed to
[11:45] serve as a full-time police officer for
Sher Creek Township Police Department
[11:49] pursuant to the Ohio Revised Code
section number 505.49. 49. As such, you
[11:54] shall firm or swear to the following.
Raise your right hand. I state your
[11:58] name.
>> I, Austin Lee Reed,
[12:00] » do solemnly swear
>> do solemnly swear
[12:02] » that I will support the Constitution
>> that I will support the Constitution
[12:06] » and laws of the United States of America
>> and laws of the United States of America
[12:09] » the Constitution and laws
>> the Constitution and the laws
[12:13] » of the state of Ohio
>> of the state of Ohio
[12:15] » and the laws and ordinances
>> and the laws and ordinances
[12:18] » of Sugar Creek Township
>> of Sugar Creek Township
[12:20] » to the best of my ability. to the best
of my ability
[12:23] » will discharge the duties
>> will discharge the duties
[12:26] » of the office of police officer
>> of the office of police officer.
[12:28] » All right. Congratulations.
>> Thank you sir.
[12:31] [applause]
[12:37] [applause]
>> My son Alexander as you can tell he's a
[12:41] big fan of police office as well. So you
might see him here in uh 15 20 years
[12:45] something like that. He's ready to
start. So,
[12:49] my mom Cindy, my brother Tim is also
nominated as well. Um, first and
[12:53] foremost, I just want to say thank you
to the trustees and the chief Brown. You
[12:56] know, this is a big opportunity for me.
I'm very nervous as you can tell, so I
[13:00] apologize for that. Um, but like I said,
I'm going to do my absolute best to, you
[13:04] know, pull up the duties and walls that
the township has. And, uh, if you see me
[13:08] at the battle, don't feel afraid to come
up and say hi. Again, I promise I'll be
[13:11] more nervous than you guys will. So, but
thank you all for being here. I
[13:15] appreciate it. And God bless.
[13:23] [applause]
Just listen slowly.
[13:56] Did you want to take that as your
pocket? Why don't you take a picture
[14:01] with your phone and then you
[14:08] We've never had a young a man like this.
[clears throat and laughter] This is so
[14:14] cool.
[14:21] Okay, over here. One, two, three.
[14:38] This is just the cutest dog picture
we've ever had. This is too cool.
[14:45] [clears throat]
[14:57] » Okay. We had the white brothers come up
[laughter] and
[15:01] » all right
[15:06] » we suffered Yes,
[15:36] » picture was awesome.
[15:41] » [laughter]
[15:46] » Joe, do you want to get on the side or
whatever side? Whatever.
[15:50] » Oh, I guess. Sure.
>> You got more experience than I do with
[15:52] this one. [laughter]
[16:05] Congratulations.
[16:09] » We are excited.
>> I appreciate it.
[16:23] » And we thank all the family and friends
for being here. You do not have to stay
[16:26] for the rest of our meeting, but you're
welcome to stay if you would like to.
[16:30] So, thank you all for being here.
[laughter]
[16:32] » You want to take a five minute recess?
Sure. We'll take a five minute recess so
[16:35] we can say hi and
[16:41] is now um 12:26 and we'll be back in
session here and our five minutes turned
[16:46] into more like 10 or 15 but it was a
good break. So thank you.
[16:51] All right with that we will start with
our um reports. So start with the
[16:56] administrator.
[17:04] Well, I was excited to see that
apparently we're going to widen
[17:08] Wilmington Pike.
[17:12] » Well, that's always been part of the
plan.
[17:13] » It was always part of the plan. Is that
>> now phase two or three?
[17:18] » No, that's down the road.
>> Still down the road.
[17:20] » Yeah,
>> that'll be part of the interchange
[17:22] project.
>> But it looks like that's going to
[17:24] happen.
>> Yes,
[17:29] » eventually.
>> Yep. still some funds to be raised.
[17:32] » I hear
>> the I think the biggest
[17:36] what came out of that meeting is
um
[17:42] it they're taking at least 24 to 28
spaces off the front of Cracker Barrel.
[17:50] On the other side of the street, they'll
be affecting the entrance to Freddy's.
[17:55] uh the parking in Freddy's and
>> Bob Evans
[17:58] » Bob Evans
>> and the entrance to that plaza u down
[18:04] near Tropical Smoothie.
>> So they're big changes that are going to
[18:08] affect those businesses definitely.
[18:12] » Is Cracker Barrel thinking about moving
then? I know there was some discussion
[18:15] at one point.
>> I can't speak for Cracker Barrel. I
[18:18] don't know. I I in the in the meeting
they felt that it would be a complete
[18:23] take of the parcel
which will put them out of business.
[18:29] » Would this reopen the options
for fixing the 675 Willington
[18:37] interchange?
>> That's part of the plan is to No, the
[18:40] options aren't going to change. It's
done.
[18:42] » Okay.
>> Yeah. It'll be a divergent diamond
[18:44] » whether we want it or not. Yeah, it is
going to be a
[18:52] major learning experience for the public
when that road is done because you're
[18:57] going to be as you head north when you
get at Miami Valley South,
[19:02] » you're going to move to the left side of
the road completely
[19:06] under the overpass and then uh up near
the plazas, move back to the right side,
[19:12] » which is like Austin Landing, but it's
>> very similar, but You're going to
[19:16] continuously move.
>> Yeah, it's closer to
[19:21] um Union Center Boulevard would be the
closest one in design.
[19:26] » Okay.
Has Stephanie Golf and and Brandon
[19:30] Huddleston have they arranged a meeting?
>> They have not.
[19:33] » Okay.
And since you got it in your report and
[19:36] I'm thinking about it, so is 2 o'clock
Thursday at pro it's it's confirmed. And
[19:41] um can we go to prosecutor Hayes? Can we
go to their office? Sure.
[19:45] » Okay. All right. I will confirm that
then.
[19:47] » Is that referring to the baby box?
>> The baby box. Yes. So, uh um the the
[19:52] contract came back and they changed
things without telling us they were
[19:56] going to change things again. So, uh
actually the prosecutor's office Yeah. I
[20:01] don't know if you want to go into a lot
of details, but
[20:03] » it feels like we're very close. We're
within six to 10 miles.
[20:07] » Um [laughter]
[20:10] he's changing
>> compared from where we started. We're
[20:12] very close.
>> We are very close. We're hoping a final
[20:14] meeting virtual with them will we'll
finalize the deal.
[20:17] » So we're hoping we walk away with with
signatures or agreement for signatures
[20:22] and able to move on.
>> Okay.
[20:24] » So fingers crossed for Thursday. We we
need it.
[20:29] » I feel like every time you've submitted
something it's they've it changed. It's
[20:35] the frustrating part is they they we
came to an understanding on certain
[20:40] items that were removed
>> and with the latest latest round they
[20:44] put them right back in.
>> So it's like they think we're not re
[20:48] rereading the uh the latest greatest
>> cont. We don't know and that's why we
[20:52] want to have that conversation.
>> So we don't know if it's just their
[20:56] their legal counsel that's doing it. We
don't we don't know quite what's uh what
[20:59] the holdup is. But we're we're getting
all the indulge parties together on the
[21:03] phone at the same time for them.
>> In talking with other communities that
[21:07] have come to an agreement with them,
they've undergone very similar
[21:12] problems.
>> And we know of two other townships that
[21:15] had the uh um identification language
removed saying that we are not held
[21:20] responsible. So those are
non-negotiables as they're required by
[21:24] Ohio Revised Code and they they keep
trying to sneak it back in. So that's
[21:28] that's the biggest thing.
>> The the only way we could agree to their
[21:33] indemnification is if we took a million
dollars
[21:38] uh cash out of our funding and placed it
in an account dedicated just for
[21:44] protecting them with indemnity indemnity
>> for and just leave it there for like 10
[21:49] years.
>> Leave it there in perpetuity. In
[21:50] » perpetuity as long as we had the box, we
would have to leave it there.
[21:53] » So
>> and that's not an option. I wasn't
[21:56] planning to come back to you too and
say, "Can we take a tenth of our our
[21:59] operating budget?" And I'm sure the
chiefs would love that, too. So, I
[22:03] [laughter]
>> You're wise not to bring that to us.
[22:06] » That is a non-negotiable.
>> Okay.
[22:10] » So, we car's report. Cara is out today.
Um,
[22:16] she should be back tomorrow.
>> Okay.
[22:21] What about [snorts] Rich's report? which
is
[22:25] » the reszoning of the Rumbl property has
been withdrawn.
[22:29] » It's been resubmitted.
>> They withdrew.
[22:33] » So, we our concern was it had been
almost a year that that they had
[22:36] submitted and been tabled
>> and there's been a lot of changes with
[22:40] the traffic impact study and all that.
So, we asked them to withdraw that. They
[22:44] did that and now they have resubmitted a
new application.
[22:47] » Okay. We should have it to the zoning
commission. I want to say October,
[22:52] November, somewhere in there.
>> I thought it was dead when I saw that
[22:55] was.
>> Yeah, it says it's been withdrawn. I was
[22:59] going to ask about that.
[23:04] » Okay.
>> Okay.
[23:04] » Uh, anything on with the fiscal officer
then?
[23:07] » No, Rich is traveling. He was hoping to
be back in town by now, but he's not. He
[23:12] didn't make it back.
>> Okay.
[23:16] Fire.
[23:22] So, one one more time, and I'm probably
sure that you've done this. How long is
[23:26] our ladder truck going to be out of
commission?
[23:33] » Uh, initially state it could be three
months or more. I reached out to him
[23:39] today via email. I haven't heard that to
get try to specific time frame, but soon
[23:48] as I know something, I'll make a phone
call to them after this meeting.
[23:53] » And in that period of time, we're going
to rely on mutual aid. Is that correct?
[23:58] » Station 72 has a backup engine. We will
not have a ladder truck service. So,
[24:02] [snorts] we'll rely on mutual aid,
Washington,
[24:09] but it'll be an automatic response.
>> Okay. If needed. Um, I did get we did
[24:14] receive the check from the insurance
company for the repairs. Um, I wanted
[24:21] them to wait until after the repairs
were complete to make the payment.
[24:25] » Sure.
>> To directly to uh Heritage.
[24:29] They wanted to go ahead and get the
check cut and it's still made out to
[24:34] Heritage, but they sent it to us to
hold. It's valid for 60 days. I told him
[24:39] it's going to be a stale check at that
point. She said, "That's fine. We have
[24:42] to do it this way. If it's not done
within the 60 days, we'll reissue a
[24:47] second check. So, that's where we're at.
>> Want to know why insurance costs so
[24:54] much?
>> Yeah.
[24:59] » Okay.
>> Any questions? Thank you, Chief.
[25:04] » All right. Police.
>> I have nothing.
[25:11] Well, I'll make you come up to the
podium.
[25:14] [laughter]
So, just curious what kind of time
[25:16] frame. Um, so, so now you have two
vacancies coming up in your detective
[25:22] department. So, what does the process
look like? Because we're losing Mantia's
[25:26] moving up and Gro is leaving. So, uh,
will Leslie be in there by herself?
[25:31] Like, what's what's kind of your vision?
What's going to happen? Okay.
[25:34] [clears throat]
>> So, Paul's got two more weeks.
[25:36] » I've already posted. So the two
detectives and the detective sergeant
[25:41] position three spots are specialized
just like the school resource officer.
[25:46] So I've advertised it all in house,
right? So we've posted it. Um so far
[25:51] none of the sergeants have put in for it
um for the sergeants position. So we'll
[25:56] fill that rather quickly. Um and then
whoever goes in the detective section um
[26:03] Sergeant Black has the opportunity to go
into one of the two vacancies and then
[26:07] Antia, it's all about Senori, right?
Antia will get what's left. Um, so I'll
[26:12] probably later this week post the
detective position that's now vacant
[26:17] because of Antia's promotion. So, it's
all it's all and then we'll see who puts
[26:22] in for that interview process.
Everything's done in house though.
[26:25] » Okay, that's great. Thank you.
>> So, where do we stand on um how many
[26:31] open positions?
>> So, total right, our authorized strength
[26:34] is 19. This brings us to 18 for two
weeks and then we'll
[26:40] » Oh, then Paul we'll be back to 17. Yeah.
>> So, I personally want to thank you for
[26:48] sending the text saying the parade was
cancelled since I was there and there
[26:52] was nobody else there [laughter]
and I was feeling a little
[26:56] » like really early.
>> I did because I was picking I wanted to
[27:00] make sure you were there and all that
stuff. So anyway, I didn't want you to
[27:04] get there without me being there. So
that text was very nice and I appreciate
[27:09] it immensely.
[27:13] » All right. Thank you, Chief.
>> Thank you.
[27:17] » All right. Roads and services.
[clears throat]
[27:20] » Oh no. Oh no.
Uh Justin, I have a question.
[27:26] [clears throat]
When I talked to to Chief Brown about
[27:29] washing the nines, I have one concept of
what it is. What is it when you wash the
[27:34] nines?
>> It's an aggregate limestone. It's just
[27:38] » so size.
>> Oh, I thought it was guns.
[27:44] » No, it's just
>> Okay,
[27:47] » that's it. Please use it for our third.
>> Oh, okay.
[27:54] » Um, I got a comment uh [snorts]
Sunday Sunday morning from a gentleman
[28:00] who really appreciated you repaving the
road there in Riveridge, too. So, I had
[28:07] got got approached and they said that
it's you did a great job and they love
[28:11] it.
>> You painted painted paint.
[28:17] » Yes. So, another compliment on your job.
>> And I'd like to add another compliment.
[28:23] I mentioned it to Justin before the
meeting, but uh if you haven't noticed
[28:27] on the bike hike paths in front of the
high school and um like every every road
[28:32] break, there are now um stop signs like
their little miniature um stop signs for
[28:37] the um pedestrians and the bike
bicyclist, scooter people. Uh so that
[28:42] just to increase safety. That was
something that came out of the school
[28:45] safety board. So, thank you for doing
that. and he had to work with Stephanie
[28:48] Golf to find out where all the lines
were. [laughter]
[28:52] » It's always harder than it should be. I
think
[28:56] » Yeah. So, thank you.
[29:01] » All right. I think
[29:07] All right, trustees.
[29:13] Um, I was just going to say I was
disappointed that the parade was
[29:17] cancelled, but at least they ended up
having a nice festival. I guess it was
[29:23] hot and muggy and I don't know if it was
as busy as it normally is, but they
[29:28] still had a pretty good crowd, so that
was nice. Um, I did get to go to the
[29:33] Green County Fair and watch some of the
cow um, shows, so that was that's always
[29:39] interesting and fun. Um, [clears throat]
I put my glasses on so I can see. Has
[29:46] anybody has there been any more
information from Nathan with the Boy
[29:50] Scouts and the little ceremony?
>> They were going to have their first
[29:54] planning meeting, but we haven't
followed. Well, they said the the junior
[29:57] ROTC is doing something at the school,
so they deferred to them was the last
[30:02] that I
>> responding. And what they've always what
[30:05] they've done, what the school's done in
the past is just something at the flag
[30:08] pole in front of the high school. So, I
believe that's probably what they're
[30:12] anticipating, but I don't know if
they've reached out to the Boy Scouts,
[30:15] » but certainly not to any community
leaders that I know of.
[30:18] » Okay. Yeah, I I know he had sent an
email and then I hadn't heard anything,
[30:21] so just to make sure that I wasn't
missing anything. Um, and then
[30:27] I [clears throat] mean school already
started. I I can't believe it's already
[30:31] almost the end of August, but the um the
Friday night football game 911 is at
[30:38] home. So, it's the military appreciation
night. So, here soon there'll be a
[30:44] Google sheet going out for the data
collection of any police or fire that's
[30:49] former military that wants to
participate um as a hometown hero.
[30:54] Typically in the past it's been one
person in our community, but this year
[30:58] the football club decided to do all
that. So I spoke about it a few months
[31:02] back, but that'll be coming out soon.
Um, and then I was just wondering after
[31:08] when we met on August 7th at our
meeting, um, did we put the public
[31:14] notice out of all of that for when the
meeting's going to be about that? on the
[31:19] be on the website and then during the
meeting giving notice gives public
[31:22] notice at the same time.
>> Okay. Yeah. Um I just want to make sure
[31:25] that we were following it because it
says newspaper, social media or website.
[31:29] So make sure that we were with that. Um
and then let's see. Oh, I was going to
[31:37] ask Cara, but when you guys were talking
about the signs at Kroger, did anybody
[31:42] ever reach out to anybody about all the
trash that's up there in that pond at
[31:45] Kroger? kind of remember we talked about
it a while ago.
[31:49] » Which pond?
>> Um the the Kroger. It's kind of like
[31:53] between
>> pond
[31:55] » between that and the Dunkin Donuts. They
actually went in and cleaned it out
[32:00] close to a month ago now.
>> Did our guys clean it out?
[32:03] » No. No. Broers did.
>> Yeah.
[32:04] » They mowed everything down and cleaned
it all out.
[32:07] » Yep.
>> Still looks kind of
[32:10] I I caught my eye the other day. So, um
but yeah, that's it. Not much. That's it
[32:16] for now. Unless anybody has any
questions.
[32:24] » Uh
we had the uh Belbrook Sugar Creek
[32:30] Chamber of Commerce golf outing.
It was uh 32 teams. It was the most
[32:35] teams ever held there. It went off uh
absolutely like clockwork. Um and uh the
[32:44] new athletic director from Wright State
who's moved to Sugar Creek Township
[32:48] participated. So we're getting uh people
to play in the event that never would
[32:53] have played before. So uh good time was
had by all. Uh two, I would like to
[33:01] nominate Cara Tilford
for a
[33:08] » one of our customer service award. Okay.
Uh Dan Deval, a builder here in uh the
[33:14] community, uh approached me and told me
that he deals with zoning in Warren
[33:20] County and Montgomery County and said,
"Of all the people that he deals with in
[33:24] zoning, she is the most diligent and
helps him find a solution faster than
[33:32] anyone else." And I said, "Seriously?"
And he said, "It's night and day. She is
[33:37] so far ahead of everybody else." So, uh,
I thought an unsolicited person comes up
[33:43] and tells you somebody's doing a good
job. I think they should get an award
[33:46] for that.
>> I'll second that.
[33:51] » Do you want to take a vote? Do we
>> for customer appreciation?
[33:55] » Uh, we don't typically if we get
>> Okay. All right.
[34:00] » And again, thank you, uh, Chief Brown
for notifying me why the parade wasn't
[34:04] there, but I was had a good spot. Thank
you.
[34:10] » [laughter]
>> Can I hear the bell hops closing?
[34:12] » It is.
>> That is really sad.
[34:16] » Heather is such a a
>> She is
[34:18] » staple to the community.
>> Uh and that's the end of this month.
[34:23] » The end of the month. Yes.
>> Is there any celebration?
[34:26] » Is there a kind of a at the end or?
>> I do not know.
[34:29] » Okay.
>> All right.
[34:33] » It's not known for parties.
[34:37] They they did used to have a lot of
lunchons, a lot back in the day.
[34:41] » Celebrations.
>> Chief, if you if you'll look on your end
[34:43] and I'll look on my end and see if we
find if there's going to be anything. If
[34:47] not, maybe maybe we suggest that she has
a little open house.
[34:52] » Okay.
>> Yeah, I'd love that.
[34:54] » I did notice all the art inside is 50%
off now, so they must be trying to like
[34:58] get rid of everything.
>> Yeah,
[35:02] » it is.
I attended the Dayton Development
[35:08] Coalition had a base tour um option the
same day they were off playing golf. So
[35:13] I I I spent the whole day uh looking at
the base, but I was able to meet the new
[35:17] 88th Air Base Wing Commander and the
445th new Air Base Wing or 445th uh
[35:23] commander also. So it was um a very good
tour and everyone's very enthusiastic.
[35:28] They've all been there less than um a
month and a half, so they're all brand
[35:32] new to their position. So there's a lot
of enthusiasm on base right now, but
[35:36] they are all saying that they would like
to step up um community relationships
[35:40] and having events that they bring in uh
local local jurisdictions with uh um
[35:46] with base and have um sometimes they'll
have events at the club, that sort of
[35:50] thing. So I'll keep you posted if I hear
of those sort of things, but that's
[35:54] always great. And I was also there at
the Grand County Fair, participated in
[35:58] that and we met about the baby box. Uh,
and the we had our our legal council
[36:04] came actually to the township and we had
a meeting last week and that prompted
[36:08] the tea meeting that we're going to have
this week. So that should be good. the
[36:13] uh marijuana dispensary discussion, just
as a reminder, that will now be on
[36:18] October 19th, and that's normally a 12
noon uh meeting, but that one's going to
[36:23] be moved to 7 p.m. so that we can get
more um since we had the other meeting
[36:28] in during the day, we wanted to have one
during the evening to get more
[36:31] participation from the public. So, make
sure that's on your calendars because
[36:35] that is a change from our usual.
And uh is uh Sergeant Guerrero still
[36:42] Friday at 11:30 to and that will that be
here?
[36:45] » Yes.
>> Okay. Gotcha. All right. So I got that.
[36:49] » So the meeting on 17th is at night.
>> At night. 700 p.m. at night.
[36:53] » Oh, I saw him and his little girl at
meet the team for football. She is so
[36:58] cute. She was in her little cheerleader
uniform. So I got a picture of her and
[37:02] Kay. It was really cute.
>> Okay, that's awesome.
[37:06] And then uh I wanted to bring up for
just consideration. So u when I was at
[37:11] the Dayton Development Coalition, the
the base tour, I met a lady that
[37:16] specializes her business, she was a
prior military and her business is doing
[37:21] strategic planning, that sort of thing.
And Barry and I were talking. I was
[37:25] like, well, we could reach out and find
out what her price point is and what we
[37:29] want to do. But we were kind of
discussing the the pros and cons if we
[37:33] should do that because uh traditionally
we are a open space green community is
[37:41] sort of what the the traditional Sugar
Creek Township like our our main uh
[37:47] focus would be on and we were just
talking about what how would we
[37:53] what would we make that process look
like? So we're still
[37:55] » strategic planning.
>> Yeah. For strategic planning.
[37:57] » So interesting. I went to um I've been
looking at other communities to see if
[38:02] they have posted on their website and
even the larger communities uh
[38:07] Westchester Township has one for their
fire department
[38:12] but not for any other aspect of the
community which was surprising to me. Um
[38:19] I forwarded it to to the chief to have
him look at it and see what he thought.
[38:24] Um
it's
[38:28] It it's an interesting process. Is that
fair? What they went through uh to to to
[38:34] develop this plan and I don't know that
it says a whole lot in the end. Um
[38:41] there's a lot of words, but I don't know
that it says a whole lot. So, it was
[38:46] interesting. So, we're looking at it in
other communities to to see what they
[38:51] look like, uh,
what they what they put together and and
[38:58] if if there is an actual plan.
Um,
[39:03] » one one of ours, I don't know if it's
police or fire, has a vision, I think.
[39:07] » Yeah, they have mission statements or
vision plans.
[39:10] » Yeah. All I was saying is it just needs
to be consistent like like every
[39:15] department should at least I mean I'm
not saying at least but if one
[39:18] department already has a vision then we
all should or it should be removed. You
[39:21] know what I'm saying? Like it's just
inconsistent across the board.
[39:25] » I I think
>> I I guess the question would be do you
[39:29] want it to be a vision statement or a
mission statement? and they may be the
[39:33] same or similar, but I think a mission
statement speaks to the the mindset of
[39:41] the department.
>> Yeah, I think if you were just picking
[39:44] one, I would think it would be the
mission.
[39:46] » I would agree.
>> The mission is kind of like what you're
[39:50] doing, but the vision is kind of like
what you seek to do. You know what I
[39:53] mean?
>> But I just Yeah. I either we we all have
[39:57] it or we don't have it at all or just
very inconsistent when you go through
[40:01] the web page.
>> They can work toward that. Absolutely.
[40:05] » So I don't know. Do you want to reach
out and get a price point what that
[40:08] would even look like or you just want to
continue?
[40:10] » I don't know that we need to go outside.
I think
[40:12] » just do it internally.
>> We can we can look at other communities
[40:16] and borrow their processes to get to
where we need to be. I think the the
[40:22] both departments have a good mindset,
mission,
[40:27] uh
[40:30] where what they how they want to provide
services, but to to journalize it in
[40:36] words would be good.
>> I have templates also that I could
[40:39] [snorts] provide and then people could
look at them and see if something
[40:43] » great
>> work towards, you know, if it fit with
[40:45] what they thought they had.
>> Yeah, I think it's
[40:50] I I don't I I
personally, again, this is personal, I
[40:55] think sometimes they're just superfluous
and just a lot of words put out that are
[41:00] a bunch of catchphrases and and they're
not actually implementing those things.
[41:04] So, whatever we put, I think it it needs
to be carried through to to the
[41:09] day-to-day
>> or it could be a reflection of like you
[41:13] had a fire levy what year two years ago.
It could be a reflection of whatever you
[41:18] promoted, not you, but like the
organization promoted when they were
[41:22] trying to pass the levy. Y and it could
reflect like this is what we did did or
[41:27] you know what I mean? Like it it should
all tie in.
[41:29] » So give me an example.
>> So I know what the fire issues were.
[41:35] » So you want that as our
>> strategic?
[41:37] » No.
>> Oh, I'm sorry.
[41:39] » No, we we're not talking strategic plan
at all. We're just talking about a
[41:42] mission. Barry's just saying that it
should be relevant. And so I'm agreeing
[41:48] saying if we said we're going to do X Y
and Z then if we're going to make it
[41:52] relevant let's mesh that like if we said
we're going to go buy a ladder truck or
[41:57] whatever mesh it together so it's
relevant and we're actually doing
[42:03] » in the mission what we said we
>> it's not a strategic but a mission
[42:07] » I think that's what we're
>> and I I don't think it needs to be three
[42:09] pages it can be very short very brief
you guys have got a saying miss uh
[42:14] caring professionals
Clearly, it's engraved in your brain.
[42:19] [laughter]
[42:23] » Yes.
>> I mean, typically it's the five W's,
[42:26] like who we are, what we're going to do,
why, like, whatever.
[42:28] » Yep.
>> It could be very simple.
[42:30] » Y
one thing that I think is important for
[42:34] our community is community connectivity
and uh um collaboration. And what I mean
[42:39] by that is like our bike hike path
initiative trying to connect to the
[42:44] communities around us. Our um our first
like our mutual responding with with our
[42:50] surrounding communities, that sort of
thing. So I I would say that probably
[42:53] would be a core value of the township.
So So those kind of things it probably
[42:58] wouldn't be bad to Yes.
>> I mean those are obvious, but but if
[43:02] it's stated that now we have a new
employee. We just had a new fire fire
[43:07] person and if you saw what those core
values were of where we're trying to go,
[43:10] I think you feel more of a
>> sense of connected to the organization.
[43:16] » And then I guess too, do you just want I
mean when I say you I don't mean just
[43:20] you, but I mean like all of us. Is it
just going to be a mission that supports
[43:24] all of us or do we want like each
department? It
[43:26] » should be each department,
>> right? But I'm just saying those are
[43:29] things that should be put so we just
have a clear understanding of where
[43:32] we're going with it. Yep.
[43:36] Yeah, I wasn't here for the previous
meeting, so I wasn't sure what
[43:39] » Okay.
>> where we were going.
[43:40] » I just wanted to follow up figure out
>> what what the direction is. And and um I
[43:46] I don't know. Even if we don't hire out,
it would still maybe be good to have a
[43:50] work session where we specifically focus
on that and have somebody facilitate
[43:54] that probably.
>> Sure.
[43:57] » Okay, let's proceed with that.
All right. Next, we'll move to Oh,
[44:02] anything else before we go on? Did you
have anything, Barry? Okay. All right.
[44:06] Public comments limited to five minutes
per person. Agenda related business
[44:10] only.
>> All right. Old business
[44:17] now that the school's back in session.
>> So, interesting. I got a I got an email
[44:22] from
Doug Ked
[44:26] the end of last week wanted to know if
we were meeting today with it. I said,
[44:30] "No, you guys didn't give me a
confirmation for anything ever." So,
[44:35] we're circulating it again, trying to
get something on the books.
[44:38] » Okay.
>> Talking to the city manager, he sees no
[44:42] value in it.
[44:47] » So, we'll see what happens.
>> Guess it won't be a brook.
[44:51] » Yeah. I just think that we put it out
there and who comes comes, right? Like,
[44:55] at least it looks like we're trying to
work collaboratively. that worked come
[45:00] out very smoothly, but because there are
some city folks that would meet with us.
[45:06] So,
>> yeah, Bel Brook uh they held it the last
[45:11] time.
>> Yeah.
[45:12] » Was that at their place?
>> So, yeah, but I mean they they sponsored
[45:17] it. I thought they were all in. Uh and I
think it's it's always good for us to
[45:22] hear those things, understand what's
going on in those areas, specifically if
[45:26] there's something going to be on the
ballot.
[45:29] so that we're aware that something may
be on the ballot before we decide that
[45:33] we're going to put something on the
ballot. I think that's I think there's
[45:37] great value to that. It brings us
together more as a community, too. We're
[45:40] like working together.
[45:44] » All right.
>> I'm disappointed to hear that about
[45:48] city.
[45:51] » All right. Next, we'll move to consent
agenda items, which includes the payment
[45:55] of bills, last meeting minutes, and the
appointment of fire department staff
[46:00] Zachary Yoast. And I don't believe
there's anything we need to pull out for
[46:04] that.
>> Any discussion? Okay. Well, I'll make a
[46:07] motion that we accept the consent agenda
items as presented.
[46:12] » I second that.
>> Mr. Kramer, yes. Miss Pablo,
[46:16] » yes.
>> Mrs. Denn,
[46:18] » yes.
All right. Is there any other
[46:21] discussion? I do know we'll have an
executive session at the end, so we will
[46:26] do that. But next, we'll move to public
comments limited to five minutes per
[46:30] person, township related business.
Denise,
[46:34] » otherwise known as lefty.
[46:38] » And thank you, Chief, because I'm not
sure she could get this.
[46:44] » I don't know if you're talking about
composting. I was going to mention that.
[46:47] So is that well we'll just keep that in
your mind too because I I I did mention
[46:51] that at the last meeting.
>> So Denise Moore Valley Drive my question
[46:56] is about the school the old school and
I'm a little fuzzy on the situation
[47:04] there. It seems kind of I don't know. It
just seems odd the way that whole thing
[47:11] is taking place. So, I didn't know if we
were involved in in that at all.
[47:16] » Not at all. It's insane.
>> As a taxpayer
[47:20] who supported [snorts] the school, I
understand that the school has expended
[47:26] a bunch of money on this,
but I also am a taxpayer that's
[47:32] contributed to that in some fashion, I
think. And I'm curious how that whole
[47:38] deal was taking place. It just seems
kind of phony. They did try to reach out
[47:43] to the community. I know there were
multiple schoolboard meetings where they
[47:46] they brought people in and they did ask
for input. Uh what I I know initially
[47:51] they were asking what uh what
potentially the old Sugar Creek school
[47:54] building could be used for. Um because
it was not ADA compliant. It was old.
[47:58] There were a lot of issues with the
building itself. And they they did reach
[48:02] out to Sugar Creek at one point and
asked did we have any interest in
[48:05] participating in that whole discussion.
And we we already knew that the Lions
[48:09] Club had quite a bit of interest in in
the land personally. And uh at at the
[48:14] time the trustees we all discussed it
and said that there was no um no action
[48:18] like nothing that we wanted to to do
with that with that piece of property.
[48:23] » Okay.
>> So we were involved that way. But yes, I
[48:27] um after that we were sort of hands off
and like you do your thing and they
[48:31] coordinated with the city on what they
wanted to do with the building that way.
[48:35] » But you're right, there was no vote. the
way the whole thing was going down
[48:40] » the way buying it for a dollar here and
this person
[48:45] » a little bit and I might have it a but
if they would have put it for public
[48:51] auction
then it would have gone to whomever
[48:56] possibly and I think they were trying to
they didn't want it to be a residential
[49:00] area
>> because that's what the citizens
[49:04] they were very against that becoming
like apartments or whatever.
[49:09] » And if you sell it that way, you can't
control who might buy it and what they
[49:15] might come back and want to zone it for
and build there.
[49:18] » Okay.
>> So, they
[49:20] it it's a hard process to follow, but
they have been very open about it and
[49:25] they've been meeting about it for
probably almost three years.
[49:28] » Yeah. Yeah. And um the way that it and
this is how I understand it, the way
[49:35] that it's happened is that they have a
little bit of control over what can be
[49:39] built there now and they want to make it
community centered for the community.
[49:45] And if it would have sold outside of
that, they could not have control that
[49:50] sense to me.
>> Yeah. So,
[49:52] » okay. Well, I didn't know if we were
involved at all. So, I just was curious
[49:57] and what you thought of the situations.
>> Well, I'm very passionate about that
[50:01] building because I went to school there
>> and I think it's a staple in our
[50:04] community and I wanted like whatever I
just wanted it to stay,
[50:07] » right?
>> But um so I went to a lot of those
[50:11] meetings like
>> a few years back and just to hear and
[50:15] understand and I mean I I know it's out
of compliance like there it would cost a
[50:21] gazillion dollars to
>> I appreciate that. Okay, I appreciate
[50:25] it. I feel a little bit better now about
it. I I just was picking up hearsay
[50:29] stuff.
>> I know it's it is a sad situation just
[50:33] because it I feel like our downtown
doesn't have a lot of a historical of
[50:38] what it once was.
>> Yeah.
[50:40] » But it takes money and
>> um
[50:43] » Yeah,
>> that's just not
[50:45] » and and and the building has served a
very good strong purpose for the
[50:50] community for years and years.
>> So it wasn't like it was not being used
[50:55] appropriately because it
>> right
[50:57] » it had a really good
>> mission.
[51:01] [clears throat]
[51:04] » When you do a mission, I think it's
important that you also do some quality
[51:10] steps that you do as you move through
like let's say you wanted to do a
[51:15] strategic plan for about a fiveyear
period. So then when you do that, you
[51:20] have different things that you're
measuring your quality about like your
[51:24] levy. The levy you mentioned that's
that's a quality statement for the
[51:29] mission of the fire department or um
what you mentioned something else. A
[51:34] couple of things you guys mentioned
would be stuff that you would say, okay,
[51:39] this is how we're fulfilling our mission
and our strategic plan. And you're
[51:45] measuring those things along the way.
And so you can say, well, did we do what
[51:51] we should have done? No. Maybe we need
to do something different this coming
[51:55] year to make sure that we pick up what
we didn't do. So I think that's an
[52:00] important piece
>> if you do that. I think it's smart.
[52:05] » Thank you.
>> So I'm going to bring out my teacher and
[52:07] you that's why I said the five W's
because it's the who, what, when, where,
[52:11] why, or how. Like we're going to get
there. So it all ties in. That last one
[52:16] was an H by the way.
>> I know. But uh but but like that was the
[52:20] who, what, when, where, why.
>> Sometimes how
[52:24] anyways. Yeah. But [clears throat] it it
covers that. Yeah.
[52:27] » And then it all connects and it's great
talking points so everybody's on the
[52:31] same page.
>> Y
[52:34] » and Barry, have you talked to Denise or
will Okay. So maybe before we go into
[52:38] executive session, you two or do you
want to just address it now? So Okay.
[52:43] Gotcha. But we did discuss it at the
last meeting which I believe you were
[52:46] not at. So Okay.
All right. Anyone else?
[52:54] » Okay. Uh we'll move to trustee and staff
discussions.
[52:58] » Nothing else. Just the need for the
executive session 121 22 G1.
[53:04] » Okay. Hold that thought. Hold that
thought just in case. Is there anything
[53:07] else? Okay. All right. We'll go ahead
and though
[53:10] » 12122 G1 to discuss personnel matters.
>> Okay, I'll make that motion.
[53:16] » I second that.
>> Mr. Kramer.
[53:18] » Yes, Miss Pterbo.
>> Yes.
[53:21] » Mrs. D.
>> Yes. And the time is 103. And we are not
[53:25] anticipating anyction. We may have
action. Okay. So, you're welcome to stay
[53:29] if you'd like to.
>> Not not anything of any consequence.
[53:32] » Yes. Yes. And I would like uh Justin
Winder to join us.
[53:37] Okay.
>> I mean, I would think college more than
[53:42] $22 an hour.
>> She can quickly go up pretty quick if
[53:47] she gets those other accommodations.
Like this is first day of the drop. It's
[53:52] It's a start.
>> You're recording again.
[53:56] » Yeah, we're good.
[54:01] » Okay. The time is 1:25 and we are out of
executive session.
[54:08] And you want me to wait in case she's
coming in?
[54:10] » No, go ahead.
>> Okay. We have a resolution number
[54:15] 2026.08.17.06
[54:18] reclassification of roads and services
department car uh personnel for Caroline
[54:25] » Frolic Frolic. Whereas the continuing
need exists to maintain proper staffing
[54:30] within the Sugar Creek Township roads
and services department and whereas
[54:34] township admir administrator Barry P.
Tiffany is requesting the
[54:38] reclassification of Caroline Frolic from
part-time service worker one to
[54:43] full-time service worker one and whereas
Mr. Barry P. Tiffany states that the
[54:48] 2026 budget has sufficient funds allowed
for this reclassification.
[54:53] Now therefore, be it resolved that
Caroline Frolic shall be reclassified to
[54:58] a position of full-time at the pay rate
of $21.50
[55:03] per hour payable on a bi-weekly basis.
It is further resolved this
[55:08] reclassification shall have an effective
date of December 14th, 2026 and is
[55:13] subject to a one-year probationary
period ending December 14th, 2026. I
[55:19] will make that motion.
>> Should be 2027.
[55:22] 2027.
>> I'll correct that.
[55:25] » All right. So, I will make that motion
as corrected.
[55:31] » I second that.
>> Mr. Kramer.
[55:33] » Yes.
>> Miss Pitterbone.
[55:36] » Yes.
>> Mrs. Dan.
[55:38] » Yes.
>> That's all we have. Thank you.
[55:40] » Motion carried. All right. The time is
126 and the meeting is adjourned.
[55:47] » Oh gosh.
>> There we go. [laughter] So first I was
[55:50] going to give