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How you doing? How are you? Well, I mean, I'm just

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I'm supposed to do uh too much more. I just got 
my blood results back and my phone's been blowing  

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up. The doctor's like, "This number's not right. 
This number is not right." So, I'm waiting for him  

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to tell me what to do. Something after a while, 
the cancer not all the incident stuff. Anyway,  

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thanks for asking. just right now and I we've gone 
through a lot. There's a there's a list and you're  

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on the list. Thank you so much. I appreciate 
you. I can feel it. I can feel it. Okay.

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Hey, how are you? Good. Okay. What you got? 
Miss Wing is going on vacation tomorrow. How  

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you doing? We are signing stuff tonight. 
Oh, I got you. So, we got new stamps with  

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new names on. Hey, mayor. Hey. Hey. How you 
doing? I'm doing well. How you This is way

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hot this time. Kind of hot.

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and I'm going to send an email to 
that lady and I'll copy you on it,  

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confirm that audit letter and all 
that. She sent it to me and I said,  

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"Are we in a hurry?" She said, "I 
don't know about a couple more days."

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So, I'll send I'll send her a response to you. See  

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if I think it's okay. I actually had 
the language about it's got to say

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today. Hey, I just got in trouble cuz you 
didn't tell me who we forgot. I forgot.  

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All right. I was going to see if 
he was going to acknowledge it.

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Opioid. Yes. I have four clients who sent 
it to me to review. Okay. cuz I represent  

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the uh I represent the treatment facility. 
I represent So you see us. I'll look at it.  

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Yeah. Cuz I think you're going to 
be turned by September 1st. Okay.

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It's a

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don't don't hesitate to text me two or three 
days before I say, "Hey bro, check everything.  

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Every document that you sign that's binding 
has to go through the council. Okay. So,  

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we probably wouldn't be able to do that. No, 
it's going to have to be on September. final  

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action on October cuz the application 
would have to be submitted due diligent

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on council approval which is feel 
like we make I'll make a change  

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you know that says contingent on 
just ice cream we'll work around  

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all that there's ways I've done this 
30 years That's why I was actually I  

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do. It's not working around it. It's just 
allowing it to happen without Yeah. Without

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Yes, ma'am. Aren't they cute?

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You see me wearing crew something that feels.  

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There you go. If you see 
me wearing crew glasses on

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you

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can see over

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prescription from her.

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1 2 3

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one is the

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I just want to make sure I was in the correct

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sticky.

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So these will be at the

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That's right. everything

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cuz it's going to be an ordinance. So,  

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it's got to be two your approvals or 
resolutions. They don't have to first

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actual last time. This is this is the second 
meeting for this. No, I'm saying the second

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voice

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have a

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Hey, I got a I got a bullet. I should 
have brought her bought for her.

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We don't have the motor. back.

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He has a right to

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Good.

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You got

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Let's

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bring this meeting to order, please.

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I'll rise, please. Invitation.

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Lord, we just come to you tonight and ask you for 
your guidance and your mercy over our decisions.  

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Lord, may we uh have you in our 
vision and have you guiding our  

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steps and we may make the best decisions 
for the city to move forward, Lord, and  

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uh the best decisions for the citizens of Sula. 
We ask these things in Jesus name. Amen. Amen.  

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Amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the 
United States of America and to the republic  

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for which it stands. One nation under God, 
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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Mr. Loo here, Mr. Dory here, M here, Mr. B 
here, Mr. here. Here. Um, due to public opinion,  

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we're going to have a couple things just kind 
of straightened out tonight. The the first three  

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chairs over there in the first row, if it starts 
getting a little crowded or if we have meetings,  

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it's going to be a little crowded. We're going to 
leave those people who may have mobility issues.  

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At the last meeting, uh, Miss Cindy was was forced 
to kind of go back and forth and back and forth. I  

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called her to let her know that I felt bad about 
it. Um, I'll let her tell you what happened after  

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that. But, um, I I think that's a good idea for 
people who can't get around very well. Crutches,  

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wheelchairs, whatever the case may be, or 
just any type of mobility issue is going  

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to go there. And by public opinion, we're asking 
that everybody in here, please take your hats off.  

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Uh this is what out of respect for the office 
and out of respect for the uh city council  

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and the city of Sulur. Thank you all everybody. 
Appreciate it. First iting item today is public  

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hearing on ordinance amending chapter 2 article 2 
section 216 of the code of ordinance of the city  

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of sulfur Louisiana and repeal any conflicting 
ordinances to establish council meeting dates  

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times and locations of meetings ordinance 
4826 myself I have a motion I'll have a motion  

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Have a motion. Have a motion. Have a second. I'll 
second. Have a second. Mr. Leoo, second by Mr. B.

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I'm going to go ahead and read the rest of 
the ordinance. Ordinance amending chapter 2,  

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article 2, section 216 of the code of ordinances 
of the city of Sulford, Louisiana, and repeal any  

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conflicting ordinances. Be it ordained by the 
city of city council of the city of Sulford,  

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Louisiana, the governing authority thereof, 
that they do hereby amend chapter 2, article 2,  

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section 1216 of the code of ordinances of the 
city of Sulford, Louisiana be and it it is hereby  

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amended to read as follows to wit section 216 
council meeting date, time, location, and agenda.  

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A. The city council shall hold all meetings on 
the second Monday of each month at 5:30 p.m.  

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Excuse me. Or for Monday falls on legal holiday, 
then the following business day of 5:30 p.m. If a  

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meeting does not finish, the council may recess 
or continue it to a specific date and time. B.  

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All meetings shall be held in the council chambers 
at 501 Willow Avenue. If the chairman determines  

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at any time that the council chambers will be 
inadequate to handle expected audience attendance,  

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the chairman may relocate the meeting to the 
West Calcue Community Center at 401 Arena Road,  

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Sulford, Louisiana, if available. The notice 
shall comply with applicable state law.

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Do we have any uh comments from the council?

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No comments. This of course was done at the uh 
request of Mr. Billy Laughlin Loftton in order  

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for us to be able to move these uh meetings 
if they should get to a point where it should  

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overload this location. Uh, Miss Wendy, it says 
number one on meeting number three. Sure. There's  

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three number ones. So, I'm the third. Okay. Not 
till later. Okay. Not the third item. Okay. Third.  

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Sorry. Being no comments, um, just for the record, 
members of the council, the charter does require  

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that this be designated by ordinance. And so 
with all the potential changes in location,  

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I wanted to make sure and it turns out that 
historically we haven't probably been doing  

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this right, but I figured that doesn't make an 
exception or doesn't make it right to not move  

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forward doing it right. So that's why I've 
suggested that we get this adopted. Thank  

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you. May I speak? Thank you. Thank you. And 
please fill out the card at the end. Sure.

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My name is Sheila Brussard and I have a quick 
question. Um I understand that according to Billy  

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has said according to the um the charter that we 
have to have a location in the ordinance. Is that  

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correct? That's correct. Would it be possible 
if if we're going to say that the chairman can  

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uh relocate? Is it necessary that we give an 
address where he will relocate to? Couldn't  

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that be just be an option just in case that 
one's not available? We could do WW Lewis or  

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some place. Then we would go to a second option 
after that. We talked about that. We didn't feel  

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like we had a sure place to put in there. Also, 
I feel like we're already potentially stretching  

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it because it says you shall designate the 
place and I felt like it was reasonable in  

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light of potential overcrowding to have 
uh you know a backup. Uh so that was my  

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recommendation to them that we So if we can't 
get into West Cow, what will happen then?  

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If we can't get into Westcow, then we would 
either, you know, either delay the meeting or  

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uh or or try to work change the date. Maybe we 
could uh we could change the date of the meeting.  

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There's different things that we can do to get 
around and change venue possible change. Well,  

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and we could Yeah, we we wouldn't want to go 
through all that. We might just say start the  

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meeting and say we're going to adjourn and 
pick the meeting back up on Thursday at the  

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West Cal Center. Okay. Other question is the 
uh charter says 7 days advanced notice for the  

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regular meeting. So if the regular meeting is 
going to be postponed then it does it follow  

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then it falls under the state. We only have to 
do 24-hour notice of the next location if it's  

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going to be a different day. Correct. You don't 
have to do if you've already noticed that meeting  

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and you start it and adjourn it, then you've 
satisfied that requirement. Good. Thank you.

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Yes, sir. If I may, Miss Sheila. Yes, sir. We 
talked about WW Lewis. We're in unprecedented  

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times in Sulfur. We're in a temporary building. 
So, we're trying to accommodate everybody  

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we can. We want to be fair, transparent, have 
everybody there that wants to be here. Hopefully,  

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we don't need it. It's going to be a lot 
of trouble to get people there and set up,  

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but we're trying to accommodate the 
people is the whole goal here. So,  

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that's all I wanted to put in. Thank you. Thank 
you. All right. Comments. Uh, roll call vote,  

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please. Mr. Leoo, yes. Mr. Garvey, yes. Miss 
Monzo, yes. Mr. B, yes. Mr. Capetta, yes.

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Have a motion to adjourn this meeting. 
Motion to adjurnn. Do I have a second?  

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I'll second. Second by Miss Monso. 
Motion by uh Mr. Troy. Mr. Chairman,  

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we don't need a motion. We don't need a motion. 
Okay. We'll be back in five minutes. Thank you.

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No, if anybody wants to do 
anything everybody good. All right.

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Bring this special meeting to order number two.

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Invocation we leave.

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You ready?

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You ready or

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you keep these? And Mr. Chairman, we can 
go back to back when we get to the third  

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one. Okay. Thank you. Are you ready? 
Okay. Um, please have the uh invocation

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James.

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Dear heavenly father, we come to you to to make 
these decisions for our city to be able to move  

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forward. Please help us make the right decisions 
through everything that we do in Jesus name.  

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Amen. Amen. Amen. I pledge algiance to the flag of 
the United States of America and to the republic  

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for which it stands. One nation under God, 
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Two  

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items on this. Roll call, please. Mr. Leoo, here. 
Mr. Derby here. Miss Monzo here. Mr. Bagel here.  

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Mr. Capetta here. Um, we have two resolutions I'll 
be going over. Resolution number one approving  

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the recommendation of Mayor Stouts for the 
appointment of Reed Ellander as interim director  

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for information technology. Resolution 3326. 
Resolution number two, resolution approving the  

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recommendation of Mayor Stouts for the appointment 
of Lindsey Luch as am I pronouncing that  

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correctly? Yes. Thank you. as interim director 
of finance. Resolution 3426. Mayor students,

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can you hear me? So Reed Ellander um has 
over 30 years of experience. Um of course  

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you know the past uh IT director has retired 
I think with 20 plus years experience. So,  

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I am going to appoint uh or 
have him serve interim director  

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uh for the IT department at this time 
until we find I find someone long term.

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Are we actively searching right now, Mayor? We'll 
be. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Um this this appointment will  

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carry us through the first of the year. Okay. 
My concern was with uh Mr. Ellen during his  

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retirement. Not to affect that was the only 
question I'd heard. So I wanted to just make  

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sure we wasn't putting him on a long term. No, 
we we've taken care time frame. Yep. For that.  

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So we we've covered that base and I agree with 
your Reed's been here forever. So it's a great  

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choice I believe and you as well. So congrats. 
Any other comments? Just like to make this quick  

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comment. you know that you know as a council we're 
not here to question is whether the individual is  

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a good good employee or not. The council wants 
to determine whether the appointment meets the  

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charter or whether the city's personnel 
procedures have been followed. Uh before  

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we vote on either one of these resolutions, I 
would like to ask the administration and human  

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resources to confirm for the record that both 
nominees have been reviewed for compliance with  

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the applicable home rule charter qualifications 
and the city's personnel policies and to have  

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identify any personal requirements 
that remain outstandings or were waved.

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Mayor, they are currently employed with the 
city. So that's that's my reason for appointing  

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them. Okay. But do they meet all the the items 
within the charter? And do they meet all the  

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requirements for each one of those positions 
that you're as it stands? Yes. As it stands,  

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yes. Yes. Okay. Because you're asking us to vote 
and and this is determined by the charter. So,  

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I just want to clarify that what we're 
voting for in a positive manner is in is in  

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uh both candidates are qualified. Yep. Both 
candidates are qualified. Compliance with the  

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charter. Yep. Yes. Thank you. Both qualified. 
Thank you. All right. Any other questions? I  

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do have one other question now. I thought about 
it. So, Billy, um I guess does this normally come  

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to the council before they appoint these people 
and then they're appointed or we members of the  

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council? I really don't think that for an interim 
appointment that charter really requires this. We  

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wanted to do it in an abundance of caution to 
make sure that nobody felt like we were just  

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making decisions without coming to you guys for 
approval. So, I think that that the both of these  

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resolutions and approval by the council are being 
done by the mayor to make sure that y'all agree  

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with the decisions he's made and not really for 
compliance with the that was my if the permanent  

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appointments come up or should he make these 
either one of these guys permanent, you'll need to  

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approve it again. Okay. and that that is required 
and this is more of an abundance of caution and  

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out of respect to the council to make sure that 
we're doing uh the right thing and giving you  

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all the opportunity for input. Okay, that's what 
I was curious. Okay, thank you. I'd like to say  

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I appreciate the the actually the interaction 
trying to get these guys in here to fill a void  

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being that we have an absence and in the presence 
of having these people's position and um I think  

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the interim appointments are are all right. 
I'm in approval of both of them actually. So,

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thank you. Any more comments from the council? 
We have no comments from the motion from the  

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audience. We have to do them separately, Mr. 
Dep. What? We have to do them separately,  

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right? Uh we have a motion. A motion. Motion by 
Mr. Batty. Second. Second. Second by me. Okay. Is  

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this on Reed Ellener? On Reed Ellander. The first 
one. Okay. Roll call vote. Mr. Leoo. Yes. Mr.  

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Derby? Yes. Mr. Monzo? Yes. Mr. B? Yes. Mr. Dea? 
Yes. Okay. Uh, Lindsay. Uh, number two, resolution  

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approving the recommendation mayor students 
for the appointment of Lindseay Douch. So move.  

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Interim director of finance. Do we have a second? 
Second. Second by Mansono. Roll call vote. Mr.  

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Leoo. Yes. Mr. Derby. Yes. Miss Monzo. Yes. Mr. B. 
Yes. Mr. Dep. Yes. Okay. Going on to number three.

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Call to order the third part of our 
special meeting. Invocation. Sure.

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Okay. Go ahead. Dear Lord, as we gather here 
tonight, I ask that you take and lead each and  

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every one of our hearts, dear Lord, and guide us 
in the right direction. Let us be open-minded,  

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dear Lord, to the things that we're actually 
in search of, dear Lord. is not of destruction,  

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but is it's for clarity and to shine a light 
on the things that we need to correct to better  

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ourselves. God, I ask each and every one of us 
that sits up here on this board to have a clear  

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conscience and a clear mind as we move forward 
through this entire process. Jesus name I pray.  

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Amen. Amen. Amen. I pledge algiance to the flag of 
the United States of America and to the republic  

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for which it stands. One nation under God, 
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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Roll call, please. Mr. Loo here, Mr. Dy 
here. Mr. B here. Mr. Dea here. Okay. Uh,  

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this is a resolution requesting an opinion 
from the attorney general related to potential  

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violations of public bid law by the city of 
Sulford, Louisiana. Resolution 3526, Josh B.

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Read it. Yeah, it's to you now. So, I am asking 
for a resolution uh tonight be voted upon uh  

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requesting an opinion from the attorney general 
uh related to potential violations of public bid  

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law by the city of Sulfur. Uh, be it resolved 
by the city council of the city of sulfur,  

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Louisiana, the governing authority thereof, 
that they do hereby request attorney general's  

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opinion related to the potential violations 
of public bid law by the city of sulfur.

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Uh this is requesting for attorney general's  

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opinion on suspected violations of 
public bid law concerning real estate  

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uh lease and real uh related improvements 
at 501 Willa Avenue sulfur Louisiana 70663.

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Dear Mrs. Merl, as a member of the sulfur city 
council, I respectfully request an opinion from  

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your office regarding whether there are 
violations of the Louisiana public bid  

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law in connection with the acquisition, 
lease, and related improvements of the  

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uh building located at 511 Willow Avenue, Sulford, 
Louisiana 70663. the property. Specifically,  

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I seek guidance on whether the actions 
described below, comply with the applicable  

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uh public bid and procurement requirements, 
including the mandatory fair market analysis,  

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bid solicitations, and competitive bid 
procedures. Statement of facts and concerns  

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as I understand them. The property, which is 
currently under FEMA reimbursement funding,  

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was acquired and leased under a 2-year 
agreement with a monthly rent of $20,853.

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The lease was signed on a contingency basis before 
the purchase of the building closed. A private  

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contractor owner of 10X Services LLC is alleged 
uh to be involved. And this contractor alleged has  

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uh family connections to the city marshal Brand 
Endeavors by marriage. The city marshall publicly  

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indicated in council meeting minutes that he had 
worked for approximately 4 years to lock this  

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building down to enable the project. There is no 
public record of a formal fair market analysis or  

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an appraisal comparing the rent or the building's 
value against comparable properties. No documented  

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comparables or written verification of fair market 
price have been disclosed by the city of sulfur.  

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The lease provides that all buildouts are to be 
funded by the city of sulfur. It alleged that  

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the buildout work estimated at $50 to $60,000 
performed by 10x services. The building's owner  

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without a public bid or advertised competitive 
bidding process for the work related improvements  

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project. A separate $325,000 improvements project 
was awarded to 10X Services LLC with no public  

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bid advertisement or required by the city of 
Sulfur. According to the public records, public  

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records indicate a request for $100,000 additional 
from the city uh court judge to be donated from  

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the building fund towards this project. This 
donation raises concern about bid integrity,  

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potential bid splitting or malfeasants involving 
the judge, the city marshall, the city clerk,  

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mayor, and the uh council members who approved 
the imp uh the improved projects. The project  

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was reszoned from residential to business nearly a 
year after the building purchase and nearly before  

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the completion of uh internal finish work 
uh with alleged inadequate or non-compliant  

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uh inspections. During a council meeting, it 
was observed that a drinking fountain was not  

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installed, potentially violating municipal and 
plumbing codes, yet inspectors allowed occupancy.  

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These matters have been eroded public trust in 
city government and compliance with applicable  

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uh procurement and permitting proc uh procedures. 
Requesting uh conclusions and questions for the  

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attorney general's opinion. Do the facts described 
raise material questions about compliance with  

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Louisiana's public bid law and related procurement 
status in relation to A the lease arrangement for  

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the property and its rent. B the lack of formal 
fair market analysis or appraisals, the decisions  

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uh to fund perform building improvements without 
publicly advertised bids, any potential bid  

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splitting or bid ridding concerns, and the related 
conflicts of interest involving public officials.

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What uh procedural steps, if any, should the city 
undertake uh to cure possible non-compliance,  

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including further uh bidding, rebid adjustments 
to the lease terms, or any requirement disclosures  

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regarding related uh party interest? If 
deficiencies are found, what enforcement  

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remedies or correction actions would the attorney 
general's opinion recommend that will ensure  

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compliances with the public bid law and related 
procurement requirements? Are there any additional  

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factors under the federal FEMA guidelines or 
state building zone zoning or building uh code  

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requirements that could affect the legality or 
the funding of the project? Supporting materials,  

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public meeting minutes, and transcripts uh 
mentions four years of efforts by the city  

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marshall to secure the building. Lease agreement 
documents including the contingency language and  

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the stated monthly rent. any available public 
records uh related to the uh the buildout costs  

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and payments to 10X services. Uh public records 
indicating the $325,000 improvements project  

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and the lack of advertised bids, the zoning, 
reszoning, inspection and occupancy records for  

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the for the property. Any communication or records 
suggested a potential conflict of interest related  

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party involvement and a conclusion. I request 
the attorney general's opinion to determine  

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whether the city sulfur's actions concerning the 
property's acquisition, lease, and improvements  

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were consistent with the Louisiana public bid 
law and related procurement requirements and to  

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identify any corrective measures that may be 
warranted to restore compliance and public trust.  

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I certify that I have have reason to believe 
these matters may involve violations of public  

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procurement and related laws and that 
a timely opinion from your office is  

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sought to clarify applicable law and 
potential remedies. Other concerns are  

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federal violations of FEMA guidelines and 
laws. Respectfully submitted Joshua Batten.

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Any comments from the city council?

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I have a few.

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Uh um yeah, I'm going I'm going I'll go ahead 
and start if that's okay. Um you know, I I don't  

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think we should only be getting an opinion from 
the attorney general. I really think that there  

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needs an be an investigation first. Um, I think 
the letter uh the information in this letter is  

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incomplete and it's one-sided opinion in order 
to influence the AG to make an opinion in his  

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favor. You know, and one question is where's the 
intent? I would like to add that Mr. Brandon De is  

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purely a tenant in this building. Make a motion to 
challenge I'm going to make a motion to I want to  

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challenge you on what you just said. Point of 
order. Point of order. The challenge of chair  

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goes across a point of order. Go ahead. But I'm 
going to fix You're incorrect in what you just  

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said and I want to correct you because you say 
it's inaccuracy. I have a whole stack of proven  

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documents right here if you'd like to go into 
them. We can do it now if you'd like. We can do it  

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when you want. Are you done? Order, guys. Order, 
please. Order. Are you done? Order. Are you done?  

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as long as you don't get me involved. Okay. Why 
don't we just let everybody speak? Okay. Uh and  

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had no involvement in the purchasing process 
of this building. Get your card. He wanted a  

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safe and secure building for his team and a and 
a sulfur city court. Any mention of him in this  

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investigation is no more than a grandstanding 
and part of a personal campaign against him.  

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And I'd also like to point out a letter and an 
email that you received as a part of your public  

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uh request where it pointed out all of 
the different options that were given  

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to us and how all of these options 
were proved to be wrong by different  

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uh means of uh real estate investigation. 
The Goodwill building was one of them.  

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47 47 The building on Napoleon Street where 10X 
Services is located across from the current DMV  

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building where warehouse own the building 
across from Missy's grocery store. The  

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building in the property recently purchased on 
Rof Street and it goes on and on and on. Well,  

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that's funny that you had those cuz they weren't 
privy to me whenever I did public records request.  

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Okay. This lease was signed on a contingency 
basis for $20,000. 90% of that was paid by FEMA.  

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This familiar uh association that you put in there 
happens to be the fourth cousin of the Marshall's  

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wife. Okay. The Marshall and his team had been 
in the in at least four different buildings that  

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were moldinfested and people were falling through 
the floors. Of course, he wanted a safe and secure  

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building. You forgot to mention that. Okay. You 
can't do it by awarding illegal contracts. One  

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more one more outburst and you'll be removed. 
Okay. One more outburst and you'll be order  

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citizen. That's inappropriate. I'm sorry. Yeah. 
So, so to challenge So, to challenge the chair,  

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it doesn't matter whenever you're wrong and 
stating in improper facts. I didn't you're you're  

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stating improper stuff and if you if you would 
like me to to to speak on that. This is an email  

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from Jennifer Thorne and Brandon Devers. Do you 
remember the conversation that Babino was going  

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to fund a portion of the parking lot? I pulled 
the clear check and we paid the total of $325,000.

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This contradicts completely what we've been saying 
to folks. Wow. Wow. $325,000 on a public bid. And  

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whenever I asked for public records, folks, public 
records came back on letter six of my question.  

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Was any public bids put out on this building? 
No. So, you can't go and exceed $250,000 on any  

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capital improvements project without putting it 
up for public bid. It was never put up for public  

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bid. It was disclosed by the city that they 
didn't put it up for public bid. And then we  

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go to the city judge and we get $100,000 to take 
and reduce the amount of that to bring it below  

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the public bid requirements. That's bid rigging 
in order to award a job. And not one time has  

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anyone decided that they wanted to ask me to look 
at any of these documents. You just want to take  

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an avoid it. It's a violation of public bid law. 
And and to to go into it a little bit further,  

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I'm not really sure that you're aware that we 
haven't received not one receipt of reimbursement  

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on this particular building because you know 
why? Because the contract agreed that it had to  

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be a movable building and so no one's actually 
engaged into a contract agreement from FEMA to  

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reimburse it. So it's kind of a interesting 
topic that maybe we need to really look at.

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Members of the council, for the record, 
this matter has been submitted by the  

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administration to the legislative auditor. 
That was another question. Yeah. At this time,  

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it's has it been to the DA's office as 
well? The DA can't really do anything.  

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He doesn't he has to accept charges or or 
reject charges after an investigation. But  

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the legislative auditor, how 
long has it been, mayor? So,

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I don't know the exact date, but it's already been 
sent over. There was a three-prongong process.  

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I sent everything over to the legislative 
auditor's office. The DA's office is only  

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put on notice until there are findings from 
that investigative authority. And by speaking  

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with the two attorneys there, they have to calm 
through that. Then the auditor of which who was  

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doing the auditing at that time had to be put 
on notice. And let me tell you, I'm going for  

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another auditing session with another auditor. We 
will not the city of Sulford be using that same  

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person. We're going to use state resources 
that is investigating it. once they form an  

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opinion that will be given to attorney general. 
However, but I'm I'll be here to tell you it's  

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been submitted from a nonbiased outlook weeks 
ago just because it's at the DA's office. They  

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do not investigate things once. Hang on. Once the 
findings of what the legislative auditor finds,  

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then it comes back here. So that's as far as what 
the administration side has done. Um at that time  

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possibly. I don't want to answer for it, but 
maybe. Does it go to the attorney general? I don't  

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know. So you've got two investigations going. Do 
I understand that right? One. one two parts. Well,  

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the DA's office is just put on notice, but they 
can't accept or reject charges that don't exist.  

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There's no conclusion. So, we've got one request 
for the DA. We've got your request for the Let me  

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finish your request for a legislative auditor. 
And then on September 14th, we've got another  

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resolution or an ordinance that's going to be 
a third investigation. Is that correct? Let  

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me just correct you. You said DA. I think you 
meant attorney general. Ag. That's correct. So,  

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we've got three possible investigations are going 
to be going on in less than a month on the same  

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item. Is that correct? Technically, if they 
all occur. Okay. Are they from three different  

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agencies? The only one that I've submitted 
everything to has been uh the legislative  

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auditor's office only. Okay. So, if we ask for 
an attorney general's opinion can then we can ask  

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for attorney general's opinion to slim down the 
amount of money that our taxpayers spend for an  

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investigation to help move this thing forward 
and save ourselves the taxpayers money. Also,  

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I think we need to attack attach an ethics 
review to the e Louisiana ethics board to  

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assist them in that. There's absolutely nothing 
wrong with that. If there's ethics violations,  

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let's put it all on the table and move forward and 
that'll slim down our investigative process. Yeah,  

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that from what I've been told speaking with the 
legislative auditors, um I would definitely let  

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them go through with that process and if there's 
another process, that's fine. um and not have  

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from an attorney standpoint of pulling that on a 
on a whole another investigation. It's where it  

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definitely needs to be at this point. I can tell 
you that by speaking with them. They they are the  

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first point of contact. I was told that as well. 
And once it goes to them, it comes back to us.  

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If we're going to do an investigation oursself, 
it's got to be sent to them at the end anyway.  

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So, if we go ahead and give it to them, 
it reduces the amount of taxpayers money  

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we're spending in legal fees to fight something 
that they're going to go through and review it.

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I got a question with the Go ahead. You want 
to send it to the state to let them look at it,  

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right? Yeah, that's what you're 
saying. So, what if he comes back  

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and says nothing's wrong? We're going to 
then we're going to move forward. Are we?  

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We should. Absolutely. That's all I want 
to know. Thanks. Yeah, absolutely. I mean,  

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but what what took so long to get to this point is 
my question. I don't know what that took so long.

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Do you think I could finish what I had to say? 
Yes, please do. Can I? Thank you. You know

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I in my opinion you know because the ex execution 
of this agreement was approved by then city  

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attorney Mr. Kate Cole then by Mr. Billy Loftton 
and then by Patrick Vega Vega of the legislators  

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auditor's office. I just want to make that very 
clear and that's and that's correct is it not? I  

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don't know that I approved that. I was under the 
understanding that was a Kade Cole project, but  

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if I did, I did. So, but then, okay, we take you 
out of that. There's still a legislative audit,  

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right? I just don't remember being involved in 
it. I'm not saying that I did. Well, you know,  

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I'm I'm going to make this very brief. I'm not 
put my name on this. I'm not putting my name on  

373
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this at all. I'm not putting my name on a document 
that is is seriously making uh accusations against  

374
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an elected official. an elected official has 
just recently been re uh re-uped. No. Uh so and  

375
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:58,240
I'm not gonna I am not going to be I'm not going 
to be a part of this and I don't want any legal  

376
00:44:58,240 --> 00:45:05,520
ramifications that would come out of it for me. 
Thank you. It's a sad indictment. Well, Danny,  

377
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:11,840
only one of these statements had anything to do 
with him. There's a whole lot of other things that  

378
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sit on here. Well, I think what Mr. Danny says 
is for three years he got up and spoke in favor  

379
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:20,560
of everything that they did. So, he's not going 
to get up there and go against it. I don't think  

380
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:27,680
you're not in a position to to think what I You 
cannot have me removed. I'll be willing to walk  

381
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:32,320
out of here, but I'm going to say what I have to 
say. Danny Deetta, you are on a political move to  

382
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:39,360
attack Jacob Stoops as a turned into a political 
stunt. Order. Order. Order for sure. Let's talk  

383
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:47,520
about what we're on the items, guys. And let's 
quit quit that. Danny, order both of you. Order.  

384
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:53,920
Really? Order, guys. Once again, stay on point to 
what we're talking about. This isn't a vindictive  

385
00:45:53,920 --> 00:46:00,400
to beat each other up. I'm trying. No, it's going 
to be done. Okay, that's enough. Really, let's  

386
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:08,080
talk about the item at hand. Any more comments? 
I have more. I got a question for the mayor and  

387
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:18,720
Billy. Hey, chair. I got a question for Billy and 
uh the mayor. So, if we approved this, do you feel  

388
00:46:18,720 --> 00:46:23,520
that we're putting a card before the horse? 
Since you're already at the auditor's uh it's  

389
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:29,920
already at the legislative auditor. You want me 
to answer? What? And well, go ahead and I may shed  

390
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:40,080
some light. Yeah. Um, I I personally think I'm not 
opposed to what Mr. Ben's trying to do, right? Uh,  

391
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:46,720
and I'm not saying that this that there would be 
anything wrong with having a multi-prong attack,  

392
00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:54,880
but I also agree with Mr. Depeta that an elected 
official's name with those accusations should not  

393
00:46:54,880 --> 00:47:00,640
be in the letter. Maybe the answer is to amend the 
letter. We can all get along. I mean, this is not  

394
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:08,320
about we want the result. We don't have to make a 
specific allegation against a specific person. If  

395
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,080
they're looking into it, they'll figure it out. 
I just put the names of the people who's in the  

396
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:16,400
emails and all the transactions or the public 
records that was handed to him by the city. Once  

397
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:23,040
again, I'm not disagreeing with you about your 
purpose. I just agree with Mr. Depeta about the  

398
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:28,400
public official. That's it. It's all I got to say. 
The mayor may have something else. So, real quick,  

399
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:36,880
you had referenced Patrick Bergado. Um, he had not 
had all of this information, by the way, of which  

400
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:45,920
you're speaking of, but he did approve it. Okay. 
Upon speaking with the legislative auditor, we'll  

401
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:52,080
we'll wait to see what what comes out of that. And 
and I hope that after everything comes back that  

402
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:56,960
the people that have been at the forefront of this 
will wipe their hands of it so we can do business  

403
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:02,240
in the city itself and not have to carry on this 
type of thing over and over and over again. Yeah.  

404
00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:14,720
Bid law procedure needs to be followed. 
I agree 100%. Miss Wendy, you want to go?

405
00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:19,520
Yeah. I'm I'm Bill Leblon live at 17 Roberto 
Drive. I don't have much to say other than the  

406
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:24,960
fact that we cannot continue with this city with 
the shame that's going on. We're the laughing  

407
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:30,400
stock of this area, you know, with you guys up 
there arguing like kids. I mean, I got kids that  

408
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:36,400
don't argue like y'all do. And and you know, 
follow the guidelines that are set down by the  

409
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:41,760
charter and do whatever it takes to find out if 
somebody made a mistake. If somebody did something  

410
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:47,360
intentionally, let's find out about it, you 
know. But it doesn't have to be a war. You know,  

411
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:51,360
there there's a war going on and everybody 
feels it. That's why we go into a bigger,  

412
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:56,160
you know, people like to see a fight. I know 
I've been involved in a lot of them, you know,  

413
00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:01,760
and and and you got to stop some of this stuff. 
Quit being childish about everything. And I'm  

414
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,840
talking to everybody. I mean, you know, we got 
this deal with the mayor going on, you know,  

415
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:11,760
and his lady friend, you know, we got Josh is mad 
at everybody. You know, you guys need to settle  

416
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:17,600
down. I mean, we had a council here at one time 
that got a lot done and I never heard the kind of  

417
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:26,320
discussions that you guys going through. Thank you 
for your time. Thank you, Miss Wendy. Thank you.  

418
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:33,600
Um Wendy Wingate, uh 256 Madison Crossing. I feel 
like that uh discussion was a perfect reason as  

419
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:40,160
to why the council should not be in charge of an 
investigation to this magnitude. Um, just a couple  

420
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:44,800
of points that were brought up just a second ago 
before I even go into my spill. Um, you know, if  

421
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,400
you looked into the Goodwill building and the roof 
street building, then you would have seen in those  

422
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:54,240
meeting notes from a foyer request that they did 
mention that they had to follow public bid law and  

423
00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:59,200
how long it actually takes to um, get that process 
started. Um, if you didn't see the minutes,  

424
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:05,280
then you probably wouldn't see that. Um, that was 
nothing but personal attacks. And if we're here to  

425
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:11,200
um save our friends, then I'm not interested and I 
will call it out every single time. I feel like I  

426
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:17,680
hope uh everybody can keep the same energy about 
not accusing our elected officials of wrongdoing  

427
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:23,520
in a personal and public uh setting in the next 
couple of meetings that we have because clearly  

428
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:28,560
there's some ulterior motives and the colors 
were just shown pretty clear for me as to what  

429
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:34,400
what side people stand on. Are we here to actually 
call out problems and fix them or are we here to  

430
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:40,080
protect our friends? I feel like that conversation 
was proof that we all got the answer that we  

431
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:46,960
needed. So, back to the actual problem which was 
a clear violation of public bid law. Just to be  

432
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:53,280
very clear with everybody, this goes all the way 
back to 2024 um when the city back in that time  

433
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:58,560
was actually just buying buildings like we were 
playing Monopoly. um including a building that was  

434
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:04,080
over $300,000 for one of the previous council's 
brother. A building that we couldn't do anything  

435
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:09,200
for with like we still to this day don't have any 
purpose for that building. So we were just blowing  

436
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:14,480
money left and right. That's the only reason why 
I had my attention on this project in itself. They  

437
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:20,720
called a special meeting in 2024. They showed up 
to the special meeting with one agenda item that  

438
00:51:20,720 --> 00:51:25,760
they had to amend because they didn't even bring 
the right dates on the contract. So, we can't sit  

439
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:31,040
here and act like this just started yesterday when 
Josh started making his videos. This started years  

440
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:37,040
ago. These are years of problems that have been 
covered up and y'all are scared of exposing them.  

441
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:44,240
Period. With the public bid law, um there are 
some emails from Jennifer Thorne to the council.  

442
00:51:44,240 --> 00:51:49,600
They were first notified in August of 2024. At 
that time, she said it was in the best interest  

443
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:55,040
of leasing this building instead of purchasing 
the building so we could get reimbursement for  

444
00:51:55,040 --> 00:52:00,400
FEMA. Um, come to find out, we still don't have 
any information on if we've ever even received  

445
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:06,320
FEMA funding or not, which if you actually did 
do some investigation and foyer requests, then  

446
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:12,000
you would have probably seen that an investigative 
journalist did request information regarding FEMA.  

447
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:17,840
Uh, Miss Natalie Lindon did a great job with her 
foyer request and Jennifer Thorne very clearly  

448
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:24,800
stated that none of this change of venue uh from 
the modular buildings which were approved for 90%  

449
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:31,760
reimbursement. There was never any notification 
to FEMA that we moved buildings. As far as I can  

450
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:37,600
read, the only FEMA coverage is for modular 
buildings. So, do we even know if this place  

451
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:42,480
is being funded by FEMA right now? I don't 
think there's a person in this building that  

452
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:48,880
can answer that question if we're truly getting 
90% reimburseed of that $20,000 a month rate.  

453
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:55,280
Maybe she can, but I am not about to put her on 
a spot in a meeting such this magnitude. But that  

454
00:52:55,280 --> 00:53:00,000
is one of the biggest questions I would have in 
this entire thing is no one can actually say if  

455
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:06,320
we are getting any reimbursement for the monthly 
rate that we're paying. If we want to bring Kade  

456
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:11,280
Cole into it, then yeah, let's bring Cade Cole 
from the meeting back in 2024 when he clearly  

457
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:18,880
said that they upcharge essentially to um make it 
easier for contractors to invest because it's so  

458
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:23,520
difficult to deal with FEMA. So, if we really 
were truly investigating and not just believe  

459
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:28,160
in everything we're told right off the bat, then 
you would have found that information out as the  

460
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:34,720
the chair of the council who's quick to call 
inaccuracy of another council member. You're  

461
00:53:34,720 --> 00:53:38,720
you're passing 3 minutes, Mr. I would like you 
to vote and give me three more minutes, please,  

462
00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:49,600
cuz I have a lot more to say. So move second. 
I second it. Vote. Mr. Leoo, yes. Mr. Darby,  

463
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:59,040
yes. Miss Monzo, yes. Mr. Baden, yes. Mr. Yes. So, 
the council was notified in 2024 um that there was  

464
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:05,280
movement. The council to their defense at the time 
did have uh quite a few um problems with the uh  

465
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,600
building in itself. They were concerned about the 
cost that it was going to um take in order to get  

466
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:15,600
this building up to par. Um and they were gas lit 
at that time and told lies. I'll get into that in  

467
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:23,680
just a second as I do have actual documents to 
support it. Um so the total cost, yes, was the  

468
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:31,280
$232,000. What they did was they said that they 
took away the $100,000 that was given by the city  

469
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:38,640
core. Um, but what they don't tell you is is once 
a donation is made public to public fund, it is  

470
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:45,280
public money. So once they donated that money from 
the city court fund, it becomes public funds. That  

471
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:51,520
is our money. So it doesn't matter how you split 
this project, which if you pulled up the law,  

472
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:57,360
it states pretty clear that under no circumstances 
shall there be a division or separation of any  

473
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:02,480
public work project into smaller projects. Which 
division or separation would have the effect of  

474
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:08,640
avoiding a requirement that public law public work 
be advertised and let by contract to the lowest  

475
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:15,120
responsible and responsive bidder. Clearly that 
says under no circumstances can you split this  

476
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:21,840
project to get what you want out of it. Not only 
did they bring the $100,000 when we buffed that,  

477
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:27,520
they still called me a liar. All right. So 
then they started sending out emails that  

478
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:33,040
the contractor actually took on some of the cost. 
Nowhere in the contract that the council approved  

479
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:39,200
states that it was okay for the contractor to take 
on cost. But if we want to go ahead and say that  

480
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:44,880
that's not against the law, the same ordinance 
or the same resolution that Miss Thorne put in  

481
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:53,760
the email to Mayor Stouts before he even was 
um in the job, she flat out lied to him. Okay,  

482
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:58,880
so that's what she said. And in the law, it 
actually says again, under no circumstances  

483
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:05,360
shall the agreement of a contractor to finance a 
public works project be used in any way to avoid  

484
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:10,160
the requirement that public work be advised and 
led by the contract to the lowest responsible  

485
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:17,280
and responsive bidder. So whether the contractor 
paid for it, whether the city court put money in  

486
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:24,720
for it, it doesn't matter how you split it or 
who you ask, that is still bid rigging. Period.  

487
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:32,720
So all he is asking is that hey if the AG finds a 
loophole in all of this then fine but you cannot  

488
00:56:32,720 --> 00:56:38,000
sit here and gaslight the public into believing 
that the previous council and mayor followed  

489
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:45,200
the law. That is obvious if you actually pulled 
any record. If we want to talk about total cost,  

490
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:52,000
then we have to talk about the additional cost 
outside of the parking lot where um the $6,100 was  

491
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:57,520
paid for a canopy right outside on the southeast 
end that wasn't included in the project. Remember,  

492
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:04,320
we can't split at all under no circumstances. They 
also paid $800 extra dollars to 10X services for  

493
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:11,520
a handicap stencil. Wendy, we're past our time 
and I I'll I want more time. I would like a vote.  

494
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:19,760
I'll make a motion to do it. I'll sell you. 
How much time? Three. Yes. Three minutes.

495
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:30,240
So, five. Mr. Leoo. Yes. Mr. Derby? Yes. Miss 
Monzo? Yes. Mr. Baden? Yes. Mr. Deet? Yes. So,  

496
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:35,840
on top of the $6,100 extra dollars and the $800 
extra dollars, we're going to now we're going to  

497
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:42,400
say that the contractor spent $30,000 outside 
of what we um agreed to in a contract. So,  

498
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:47,840
now we're agreeing to violating a contract, 
which would ultimately make it null and void. So,  

499
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:54,640
that's stupid in itself. Not only did we do that, 
she is still essentially lying by saying the next  

500
00:57:54,640 --> 00:58:01,440
excuse from Jennifer Thorne uh was that the she 
told the mayor, let me read it so I don't screw  

501
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:07,040
it up. The property lease, which was approved 
by the council, stated that the parking lot  

502
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:12,400
was to be completed by the property owner. 
Did y'all read that in the contract? Because  

503
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:18,400
I didn't. What the contract actually says is 
that the tenant, that's not the contractor, the  

504
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:23,920
tenant is to pay for all of the exterior parking 
construction costs. That includes the parking lot,  

505
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:29,360
handicap parking, and removal of poles, soil, 
rocks, and hard surfaces, architectural drawings,  

506
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:36,000
and permittings. That clearly does not say that 
the construction person is responsible for that.  

507
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:41,440
So again, if we did our research and didn't 
just flat out want to call people a liar because  

508
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:48,240
you don't want to have to agree that they are 
correct, you would have seen that information.  

509
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:54,080
The biggest problem that I have is that this has 
been created personal by such defensive strategy.  

510
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:59,360
when I started looking at all of this, the the 
one person that we are talking about today,  

511
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:06,160
which is the marshall, honestly, is gonna not even 
be part of the um process when it comes down to  

512
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:12,000
who's actually in charge here cuz he can't sign 
that. And so, you're sitting here defending him  

513
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:17,360
when he doesn't even need to be defended. And on 
his end, I don't know why his panties are in such  

514
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:23,760
a wad because he it's not going to be on him. But 
we can't sit here and say that he wasn't involved.  

515
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:28,400
he was very clearly involved. We can't sit 
here and say that the council wasn't aware.  

516
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:34,400
They knew what was going on and if they didn't, 
they just didn't ask any questions. So, again,  

517
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:39,200
I had a feeling that this meeting was going 
to go this way and I'm very disappointed,  

518
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:47,200
but I I'm not shocked one bit. Um the I have a 
lot more to say, but the way that just went down,  

519
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:51,840
I I'm going to hold off and I I genuinely want 
to see how this plays out. And I just want to  

520
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:58,480
end with the simple fact that let's hold that 
same energy about accusing elected officials  

521
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:05,760
when we don't have anything to actually produce 
um on that topic. Especially since there's an  

522
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:12,560
agenda item today that is very vague and no one 
has even bothered to even talk about it. It's a  

523
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:18,880
secret. But y'all let the entire city stir up 
drama instead of addressing the real problem.  

524
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:24,480
Here we are trying to address a real problem and 
you turn into this defensive personal mode and try  

525
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:30,640
and shut it down. If if Jennifer Thorne talked to 
the legislative auditor's office, which she says  

526
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:37,600
in her email and several foyer requests, including 
Natalie McClendon, she sent it to KPLC. Mr. John  

527
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:45,280
McCartney, who had a 45minute video right before 
the election, she sent the same wrong lies to him.  

528
01:00:45,280 --> 01:01:08,560
Time. Thank you, Sheila. For the record, it was 
10 minutes total. 10 minutes. So, Miss Sheila,

529
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:21,280
Sheila Brousard. Um, I am happy that discussions 
take place in the chambers instead of outside of  

530
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:31,360
the chambers. Of course, it is um disheartening 
um that the chair would and I made notes. It was  

531
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:38,320
the first time somebody got personal uh that 
the chair would ascribe intent to somebody's  

532
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:48,160
um request for uh for information. Requests 
for information, investigations are what  

533
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:58,240
uh give us transparency. Um, if and I love 
what Billy had said, a multi-prong approach, a  

534
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:05,200
multi-prong approach cannot be a bad thing. I have 
dealt with the attorney general's office. Um, they  

535
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:10,800
they gave me lots of information at one point and 
a few months later I asked for more information  

536
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:17,360
and it's been a year and they have not contacted 
me back in spite of me trying to get information  

537
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:25,200
from them continually. So for information to be 
requested from the attorney general, from uh the  

538
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:32,160
legislative order, from the ethics board, it needs 
to be requested everywhere it can be requested. Um  

539
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:38,480
I do have a question for Mr. Ben. He had said 
and I think uh Wendy referred to it also. Will  

540
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:47,760
you adjust me with a question and I'll pass on Mr. 
B. Okay. May I ask Mr. Ben a question? Mr. chair.  

541
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:51,600
That's also another way I can do that. Address 
the chair, please. I'm addressing you and asking  

542
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:57,120
you permission to ask Mr. Ben a question. You can 
ask me the question. Go ahead. You do understand  

543
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:01,040
it can be done. I'm not holding you back. I'm 
asking you a question first. You do understand  

544
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:05,280
it can be both ways and it's appropriate. You 
do know that, right? However you want to do  

545
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:11,920
it. Okay. I'm asking permission to address uh the 
district for representative. May I do that? Sure.  

546
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:17,840
Thank you. Mr. Bane, you said in a telephone, a 
very short conversation, so I didn't get to ask  

547
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:26,240
you on the phone. You had stated on the phone and 
here that uh it would be saving us money to give  

548
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:31,040
to give this request to the AG's office. Could 
you please expound on that? How would that work?  

549
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:36,000
So, if we're sending our information to the 
attorney general's office, they're a state paid  

550
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:40,560
agency for them to review the documents that we're 
sending over to them to give us a finding, whether  

551
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:45,280
it's a prosecutable finding or just some advice 
how to correct it to where we don't make the  

552
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:50,880
same mistake again. And so, that's what I've been 
asking for all along. But, being that I've been an  

553
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:55,680
outside citizen and not an elected official, it 
was harder to get an attorney general's opinion  

554
01:03:55,680 --> 01:04:01,760
on that issue. I was also hitting a block wall 
with other people interfering on state levels  

555
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:07,360
and trying to stop it, which is also a sad 
indictment. But if we go through the process,  

556
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:12,960
whether we go through three separate agencies or 
if we go through one, I mean, you know, where one  

557
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:17,840
might be completely slammed and dragging their 
feet and we ask for one through ethics board,  

558
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:22,400
we have one through attorney general's office and 
one through Louisiana legislative order. Each one  

559
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:28,560
of these offices do something totally different. 
Mhm. And so I think it's a very important thing  

560
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:36,080
that we address all three. And then we're supposed 
to be holding a hearing, an investigative process,  

561
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:41,280
which is something that no city council 
in sulfur has ever done before. So we're  

562
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:47,840
going to sit here and try to act like we're a a 
judge and and and attorneys and by questioning  

563
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:53,680
people and doing what? Look, I'm just asking for 
guidance. Mhm. and head us in the right direction  

564
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:59,360
by people that are skilled and trained. I 
mean, and and here's the whole question.  

565
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:06,720
The past administration constantly alleged of 
transparency. If there was complete transparency,  

566
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:11,440
look, then move forward with the dog on 
investigation. Let's get it over with. If  

567
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:16,080
you said there's nothing to hide, then there's 
nothing to hide. Move forward with it. Get get  

568
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:21,360
it over with. Get it behind us and let's move 
forward. I'm not trying to attack one person,  

569
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:26,720
but let me tell you something. Whenever I bring up 
issues in every single email that I come across,  

570
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:33,600
certain people's names are mentioned in every 
single one of them. Then that's an indication that  

571
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:38,960
those people are directly involved in that thing 
that needs to be looked at in the investigation. I  

572
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:44,640
don't care if I named them. I named who was in in 
in the in the paperwork that was given to me. So,  

573
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:49,440
I mean, I'm sure there's a whole lot that I missed 
in here that I probably go in and name. I probably  

574
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:55,840
wouldn't have enough paper to put them on, but I 
do believe it would drastically I mean, Mr. Billy,  

575
01:05:55,840 --> 01:06:03,760
what what does an attorney charge an hour? I 
charge $450 except for public work. Okay. So,  

576
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:11,840
$450 an hour, we're looking at saving the city. 
So, on something that could go on for months.  

577
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:18,560
So you figure how much money that would actually 
save the taxpayers. And not to mention Mr. Depetta  

578
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:24,240
would actually be allowed to get an attorney to 
represent resolution one that he's passing for  

579
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:29,520
the investigation. He's asking for Mr. Stouts. 
And then I would also I'd like to make a point  

580
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:38,800
of clarification if I could. The investigation is 
for the hiring and firing practices of the city.  

581
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:45,120
Never in that document of any document that 
I put out there is Mayor Stouts or any of the  

582
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:51,520
other employees in the city council in the city 
of Sul excuse me? Never. That's what you've been  

583
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:56,400
doing and that's what other people been doing. 
And I'd like to make this perfectly clear. We're  

584
01:06:56,400 --> 01:07:01,920
investigating the process. We're not investigating 
the people. And let's make this perfectly clear.  

585
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:07,360
I am I'm clear on individuals names again 
and that's a problem. If you're pointing  

586
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:12,880
fingers at individuals, like Mr. Billy said, 
that's a problem. Okay. Well, I guess I'm not  

587
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:16,640
pointing fingers. I'm stating a fact that I 
received in your email and you said, "Please  

588
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:23,120
give me all investigative documents involving 
Jacob Stews." So, that clarifies that. And so,  

589
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:27,440
being we got that on the table, we verified who he 
Can we get some order and go back to the point of  

590
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:32,640
what we're talking about? Not not the biting. Once 
again, guys, we're back. We are back off point.  

591
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:37,840
I want to correct it like he said that he wasn't 
talking about one specific person but his email in  

592
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:42,080
correspondence to me iterate something completely 
different. I don't I don't believe that. But to  

593
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:49,440
bring it to bring it back to the to bring it back 
to the topic um if if someone's name is brought  

594
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:54,880
up in a in an investigation, it's not going to 
sway the attorney general one way or the other.  

595
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:59,920
If your name is in a document and your name is 
brought up, that's not going to sway the attorney  

596
01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:07,920
general at all. Um, so whether the mayor's name or 
Dubra's name, whoever's name is an investigation,  

597
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:15,200
I don't think that's important. I am disheartened 
that any member of this council would say before  

598
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:20,240
the discussions took place, before the council 
has spoken about it, before the citizens have  

599
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:28,560
had a chance to speak that you would say, "I'm not 
going to put my name on this." That's a sad thing  

600
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:34,400
that your mind is made up before you've heard from 
people from people who've read it certainly more  

601
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:41,200
than I have read the investigative papers more 
than I have. I don't think for anybody to come  

602
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:47,200
in here with their mind made up on something as 
detailed as this is a shame. I do have a quick  

603
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:52,160
question for the mayor. You had said that you 
sent everything to the attorney general. Was it  

604
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:57,680
everything that Mr. uh that the representative 
from district 4 had sent you in that correction  

605
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:02,880
she legislative order. Thank you very much. Have 
you sent the legislative auditor everything that  

606
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:08,400
the representative from district 4 gave you in 
regards to the will of street building and deeper?  

607
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:15,360
So the total lease agreement, total contract 
price um is what they are looking at because  

608
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:23,680
that scope of work um goes by that um no other 
information has been submitted as far as from  

609
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:30,320
Mr. Ben. Um so so it is not redundant for him 
to put forth something because much of that is  

610
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:35,200
not in yours to the legislative. Is that 
correct? Would is that a fair statement?  

611
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:40,320
if he had other information that is beyond the 
scope of the lease agreement and the total scope  

612
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:47,200
of work is is what they're interested in because 
it's new construction they wanted a final amount  

613
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:53,840
it doesn't matter if I paid for it you paid for it 
goes by the total scope of work being that it was  

614
01:09:53,840 --> 01:10:01,120
new construction with public funds I I gave them 
that and the lease agreement no other information  

615
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:08,400
was given by me to them only what they've asked 
for they wrote back to me what they needed to  

616
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:13,840
go with that scope of work in an investigation. 
Now, if there is other information that I need to  

617
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:20,480
include in that, I'd be more than happy to pass 
that along. However, they need to come through.  

618
01:10:20,480 --> 01:10:27,840
But they wanted to know procurement process and 
total scope of the work job related. Mhm. They're  

619
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:34,240
only looking at the process legally of what you 
would have had to do with those two things. So,  

620
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:39,280
it would be very beneficial to have what you are 
getting from the state legislative auditor. And  

621
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:47,600
do we need to take a vote for me to be able to 
continue to speak? Do I hear a motion? So, move

622
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:58,320
second. Okay. Mr. Leoo. Yes. Mr. Dory. Yes. Miss 
Monzo. Yes. Mr. Ben. Yes. Mr. Deet. Yes. Thank  

623
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:05,520
you. Um, so, so it's not a redundant request, but 
even if it were, if if everyone in this room sent  

624
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:10,640
a letter to the attorney general stating 
their concerns on this particular matter,  

625
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:17,280
it would lend more credence to uh the the fact 
that an investigation needs to take place.  

626
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:21,840
I don't think we can have too many requests 
on anything. I think they're smart enough to  

627
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:27,600
sort out the duplication and to sort through 
what information that they need from every  

628
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:34,640
uh person that submits information. Um see 
I want to go to a couple of things that Miss  

629
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:41,680
Winggate brought up because uh I was listening 
to um uh Ben Shapiro today speaking on the  

630
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:47,920
uh PBD pro broadcast a podcast uh that 
deals with politics and and much much more.  

631
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:56,400
But uh Ben Shapiro said it doesn't make uh a 
difference to him and I don't think it should  

632
01:11:56,400 --> 01:12:02,640
to me and I don't think it should to anyone in 
this room. If someone has done something that is  

633
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:12,640
illegal, immoral, unethical, has harmed this 
city, it should not matter. Your friends,

634
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:28,320
thank you for your time. 
Sheila, anybody? Yeah, this Amy

635
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:36,960
Amy Feliz 2329 Augustine and Mr. Chair, I don't 
know if this is the last public comment or period  

636
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:44,240
or is there one after this? This is it. Okay. 
So, just a couple of questions based on some  

637
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:50,320
observations and I did not intend to speak. Um, 
so I may fumble on my thoughts a little bit,  

638
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:54,240
but my first question based on an 
observation is do we have a deputy  

639
01:12:54,240 --> 01:13:01,280
clerk? Miss Blanchard is phenomenal. And um I 
don't know if she ever gets any time off. So,  

640
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:05,680
I don't know what happens if she, you know, 
bless her heart gets sick or something. So,  

641
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:16,560
that was one question that I had. And 
another question that I have is there a way

642
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:27,680
that that the chair uh positions can be changed. 
Um I know that it was voted on every year. Every  

643
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:33,920
year. Okay. Um I just I I've noticed how Mr. 
Darby um does a good job trying to keep order  

644
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:47,600
and stay on task. And I hear some um phrases in 
other municipalities like point of order um um

645
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:53,760
well uh anyway that's all huh request for 
information. Yes. Uh you can't speak to  

646
01:13:53,760 --> 01:14:02,240
motives um things like that. So 
uh that that's all. Thank you.

647
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:19,520
Mike Granger, 521 Oakland Drive, software. 
Uh, a couple things. I really think that  

648
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:26,160
we shouldn't be using anyone's name, whether 
it be the finance director, the past mayor,  

649
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:32,320
whoever in investigation and make accusations 
on. you can say the position, but I don't think  

650
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:38,160
any of us needs to get up here. I think it's why 
it's become so personal is we using names. So,  

651
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:42,560
I don't think it's fair to those individuals 
that we whoever is calling whatever individual  

652
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:50,560
out about whatever they did or didn't do before we 
know because once you now that you said the name,  

653
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:55,600
you can't go back and retract what you said. 
The mouth is a very powerful thing. Once you  

654
01:14:55,600 --> 01:15:02,320
say something, it's done. I want to reiterate 
on bills too. This is not just there's people  

655
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:07,360
calling from Cal. They calling from all over 
the country about the city of software. What's  

656
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:15,200
going on right now? I've been all my life. So 
we got to do something to quit. I'm talking  

657
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:22,800
about radio stations all over. Okay. So another 
thing, so I want to address the money issue. Is  

658
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:30,320
the ethics board being paid? Are they a state 
agency? Are they being paid? What about the  

659
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:36,400
attorney general? Are they being paid? And then 
the legislative order is being paid. So there's  

660
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:41,360
no way you can save money if you got three 
different agencies. Go ahead. By the state,  

661
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:47,920
sir. They get paid by That's what I'm saying. But 
they who our taxes, huh? Is it our taxes? Okay.  

662
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:54,000
So you got three investigations going on. There's 
no way you can save a public any kind of funds by  

663
01:15:54,000 --> 01:16:00,000
having three investigations. State funds. It's not 
state funds. Please let him talk. But correct him  

664
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:05,200
then. Please let him talk. There's a difference. 
I think we want to give the investigation to you.  

665
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:11,200
Well, I think you got So anyway, I'm getting just 
like you. I apologize. I I apologize. Excuse me.  

666
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:16,480
Strike that. Can we strike that comment? 
Wendy, if you want I'm not saying names.  

667
01:16:16,480 --> 01:16:24,480
Okay. Strike that comment. So my part being 
where the funds coming from state, the city,  

668
01:16:24,480 --> 01:16:30,320
there's no way you can tell me we saving money by 
getting three different groups involved. So let  

669
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:35,200
the let the mayor send let them do that. If they 
come back with some a finding, then we send it  

670
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:40,640
to attorney general. Attorney general comes back 
with finding then we send it to the ethsics board.  

671
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:45,280
I think it's a little overkill for going 
three different but it would be going  

672
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:50,640
the same direction by saying that could still be 
doing the same thing. Yeah. So I mean you already  

673
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:54,160
got one going. So I just don't see where it's 
saving us any money. Well three they're three  

674
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:59,440
totally separate agencies. Not saving us any 
money. Is it saving us any money having three?  

675
01:16:59,440 --> 01:17:08,960
Well well no there's there's no discussion. 
There's no discussion on this. Miss Lena.

676
01:17:16,480 --> 01:17:21,360
I didn't really come here to speak tonight, but 
my name is Lena MacArthur. I live at 5514 Clark  

677
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:29,600
Drive, Sulford 70665. My question is, where is 
the integrity of this city? I've lived here for  

678
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:35,920
65 years and never seen a hornets nest to this. 
Not fussing with any of y'all, but my question is,  

679
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:40,800
Mayor Stouts has an investigation going 
on. Why another one? At the end of the day,  

680
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:48,400
doesn't the DA get to make the decision whether 
they accept charges or reject charges if there  

681
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:54,960
was something done wrong? As I've sat here 
tonight, there keep saying there is something,  

682
01:17:54,960 --> 01:18:01,120
but you got to get the answer to get to 
the DA to find out what really happened.  

683
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:06,720
And I'm in agreement. Don't call people's 
name out. We all have families. I've been  

684
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:10,400
one of the people that's been in the 
videos. I really don't appreciate it.  

685
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:23,840
And I don't appreciate the attack we have on 
our citizens of software. Thank you. Thank you.

686
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:33,360
Have a motion. So move. Second for the 
vote. Second. Second by Miss Danielle.  

687
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:49,120
Roll call vote. Mr. Loo. Yes. Mr. Derby. Yes. 
Miss Monica. Yes. Mr. B. Yes. Mr. Teta. No.

688
01:18:49,120 --> 01:19:24,640
Motion to adjourn. Mr. No motion. Meetings 
adjourned. You get free. And you get free.

689
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:43,200
Heat. Heat.

690
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:59,040
Heat. Heat.

691
01:20:00,480 --> 01:20:30,480
has change into

692
01:20:30,480 --> 01:20:39,360
Oh,

693
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:56,240
heat,

694
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:58,160
heat.

695
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:23,680
I take

696
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:35,200
Heat. Heat.

697
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:46,640
Heat. Heat.

698
01:21:54,880 --> 01:22:04,800
Oh yeah.

699
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:32,000
Wow.

700
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:33,600
Yes, ma'am.

701
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:52,160
Be careful.

702
01:22:54,080 --> 01:23:10,560
That is appropriate. You heard 
me call your representative.

703
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:26,560
I mean,

704
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:31,520
how do we turn off?

705
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:39,280
How do we turn off?

706
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:42,560
Yeah, that is Oh, yeah.