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Hopefully, everything works out. It's not, I can upload it.

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What's that?

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Does that make you happy or do it? You don't miss being the guy in charge saying you've seen your sit down back there.

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Yeah?

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What do you do with the heat and the cold controls when two people want something different?

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It's too hot in here. No, it's too cold.

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It's always something, right?

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They make them everybody happy. All right, I would welcome to the June 17,

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2026 Summer County Council meeting. I'd like to invite everybody who is able to please stand

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and join us for the Pledge of Allegiance.

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and to the Republic, the richest in one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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All right, the first matter before us is, I got to look at my schedule which got updated about long ago. Let's see.

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So, these are our interviews for two vacancies on the Eastern Summit County Planning Commission.

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At first up, we have our good friend, Gail Pace. Please come forward, Gail.

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Or is there,

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you know how, you know how this, right in the center, right in the, there are three buttons on the front, the center one.

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look for the green light.

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Why don't you see the very light? We're good to go. There you go. Thank you.

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How are you? I'm great today. Yeah. This place is treating you well. Is still paradise? Yes. Still happy? Yes. I'm glad.

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That's because it's on you. You know that, right? I know it. This is her district. She takes care. Great care of it. Yeah.

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I'm going to you've been through this process. So I'm going to turn to my colleague, Megan McKenna, and she's gonna

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asking some questions and you're getting answer them and we'll move on.

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Good afternoon, Gail, and thank you for your interest in serving on the Eastern

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Summit County Planning Commission. I would love to know your interest and

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maybe for folks that don't know you as well and your services community if you

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could just describe your interest in serving at this point on the planning

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Commission. Okay, I am president of the Utah Public Employees Association. I'm

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representing over 7,000 people in the state of Utah and I am up on the

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legislature hill meeting with the senators and the house representative quite

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often. And I am up on what they're proposing. The reason I would like to be on the planning

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commission is because I would like to make sure, if I was, I would represent the people

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on the east side. And I would like to make sure that the applicants cross their teas and

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dotted their eyes and had everything legal and asked questions pertinent to my interest is

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where are you going to get the water for the subdivision and the sewer, those type of questions

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representing the citizens on the east side.

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Great. Thank you. Could you tell us a little bit more about yourself and your

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background here in in Summit County and why you think you would be a great

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representative for Eastern Summit County. I had my birthday yesterday. Happy birthday.

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I turned 80. Wow. I have lived here in Summit County on the east side for 80 years. I was born and raised here.

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I've raised my family here.

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I have attempted to represent the county on the fair board as fair as I could.

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I am on the East Side Planning Commission, excuse me, not the East Side Planning Commission.

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and the, I

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forgot what it is, is that?

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Yeah, and for open space.

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And I feel I've represented the people

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and keeping open space going.

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I'm on the Hoistfeld Cemetery or board at this time.

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But as I understand it, they have four other applicants applying.

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My term is up.

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So I probably won't apply for that.

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I worked for Summit County for 27 years.

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I started in the jail here when it was here.

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and moved over to the new one at Silver Creek and KC,

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Sheriff KC now just got hired when we moved over there

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and I was her field training officer.

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So I have worked for 27 years and we used to walk the towels

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both say hand.

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I believe that old Ike Potter walked by me several times. When I was walking along, I heard doors

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slamming ahead of me, and I worked in the jail. I started in 1966 on the fire department

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and was on the fire department for 54 years. I worked on the ambulance for Colville for 30 years.

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And I was vice commander of the search and rescue for about 10 years. I was in the search and

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you for about 35 years. I'm oriented on being on the east side and the west side. Our

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ranch is over for the Justice Center as we own on both sides of the promontory. So that's all right.

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Well, thank you so much, Gail. I really appreciate your willingness to serve and all that you've done for

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for the county in your 80 years.

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And happy birthday.

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I'll go ahead and pass it to my colleague.

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Cause we're ever answered.

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That's an impressive resume, Gail.

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Thank you for all of the work that you've done.

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What is it about the planning commission?

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Besides maybe you could talk to legislatures about some things.

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What is it that really motivates you about the planning commission?

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As I understand, there is a subdivision going in Brown's Canyon and I want to make

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sure that that particular subdivision is created to adjust to rural life.

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You put a subdivision in and all of a sudden you have animals going through their fields

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and there's a lot right next to their house. I want people to understand that they are going to be in the

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wilderness, basically. There's going to be animals there. And like I said before, I want to make

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sure that they're properly getting water and sewer whatever it takes on that. That's just one big

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subdivision. The smaller subdivisions, I want to make sure, again, that they are crossing

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their teeth and dotting their eyes, I want to make sure that they're legal and I want

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to help them if they're not, you know, if they're, if I can. And I want them, I've seen

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them get up in their meetings and be nervous and shaken, and I want to represent them by

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making them feel comfortable and not be nervous so they can present a subdivision to small

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subdivision too.

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Okay. Well, so right now you're the chair of the Norsema seniors. You're on that other committee

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that you mentioned, I forget the name of it, what else are you involved in anything else

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right now? Just the eSAP and the cemetery board and the...

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Oh right, the cemetery board. We need to talk about the Hoistle Cemetery, but we'll do that

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offline. Yeah. Anyway, thank you very much for everything that you have done and that you

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continue to do. Really appreciate it. We need more people like you being willing to step

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up and donate time and be involved. Thank you.

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Do we have Chris Robinson online, Brian?

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Neither he nor canis have joined at this point.

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Deal looking around it, especially in North Summit, you've got Colville and Colville's

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got some development going on, Colville's having to wrestle with what Wauholy I guess is

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going to be at this point. I don't know, Wauholy's wrestling with the same thing. The Red

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Hill development, I assume, that's still moving forward in some regard.

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Yes, I saw the day they had begged for home basements and that ford the cement and a truck

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come in with lumber to start building a house, the first house, and then there's three

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that's there and they've got the roads, the inner space, all in there, the roads are paved,

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the government.

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And so it's, it's, it's coming along, yes. And I think that's a hundred or 150 units. Is that, do you know what it is? I remember. Yeah. 300. Is it? So I mean, blow us is the more expansive ivory homes up up this to the south of red hills. And that was part of the cedar crest conversation. No, it's, I don't believe it. It's a different one. It's additional. So.

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So as you look around, what do you think the community, both in North and South Summit,

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if you had to list the priorities of the kind of development that you would like to see

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come into these areas, what would you be looking for if you had your magic wand

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and said, build this for me, it would make our community better?

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I would say affordable housing.

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And you put a subdivision, a bit large subdivision in.

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You've got to have expensive houses built for to make their money, but they also should

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have the affordable housing and attract people to come in here to spend their money in

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some in county by offering affordable housing.

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I want to make sure that they have the lofts

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to make their money with,

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and for the subdivision,

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they need to have affordable housing.

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Who would you build that housing for in?

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One of the reasons I'm asking the question is,

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are from an Ag standpoint,

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are the next generation,

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or even the generation, the current generation,

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the grandkids of the original farmers

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and the great grandkids of the real original farmers

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and ranchers here.

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Are they coming back?

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Are they coming?

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Are they in other parts of the country coming back

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to live here, but maybe work outside of this?

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How many are coming back for ag purposes, do you know?

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That's what I would like to see.

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They would work elsewhere and still spend their money

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in Summit County. And if they had affordable housing and apartments, maybe that's a possibility,

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you know, that instead of houses, apartment buildings might be something to attract people

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to come in and buy a house and reside here in Summit County. Sure, we've been hearing that for a

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time. Why can't I build a house on my own ranch for my kids? That's one of the first questions.

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I think I got a still long time ago. Okay. Well, we know you. We appreciate you and everything

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you've done will be making a decision today. Okay. And we'll let you know. Thanks. As always,

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you show up when we need something and need somebody and you're there ready willing all the time

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to give a night and really appreciate it very much and to have the council in the county.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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And happy birthday.

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Surround number.

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It's a good number.

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Okay.

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Do we have John Oliver?

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John?

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Is John online?

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Uh, no, Mr. J.

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Oh.

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Okay.

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I mean, my computer decided to restart, so, hey,

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I must have known.

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We

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can't be penalized for our incredible efficiency,

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right, boiling expectations all the time.

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Chair, maybe for the sake of the public, you could explain why this schedule has changed from what was posted online.

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Sure. Yeah, we had two people Rebecca and I don't recall Rebecca's last name.

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On the top of my head, I'm not working at that sheet. And Michelle Eastman, we're also applicants for these positions. And we are only allowed to have two people on each of the planning commissions that reside in municipalities. So have we already have two municipal residents on the eastern southern county planning commission. So the only people there can occupy.

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by the two vacancies are people that live in unincorporated

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some of county.

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So we let them know that, hello, speak, look it's you, yeah.

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They're all dressed up.

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Nice.

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So we had conversations with them and let them know this morning

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that we work together to accommodate them.

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So they will, I believe, reapply

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when and if those positions open,

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I think they were good candidates

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And we hate to foil their candidates, but it's just the way it worked out this time.

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So, trying anything yet, we're however still five minutes for anything.

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And not at this time, Mr. Chair.

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We'll wait a second.

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Actually, Terry.

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Terry here?

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My Terry.

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Once you come on up, let's go ahead and get you going and hopefully John will be tolerant

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of that decision.

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How are you?

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Yeah,

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of course. Tell me a little bit about you. Tell me where you're from, what you do.

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There we go.

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Harry Distan, B-I-S-T-O-N.

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So, I am a life-long Southern County resident. I had a business in Wyoming for about 17 years,

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which we were the largest contractor for the North American Oil and Gas for BP, and then move back.

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we've always had ground here and always resided in the county.

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Move back.

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I am now doing real estate here throughout the county and doing some entitlement on property.

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I sit on the three boards for conservation.

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I got back and wanted to understand more of that.

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So on the ESAP OSAC and then the summer land conservancy.

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Summer land conservancy.

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I just recently stepped off.

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We are now putting our land into a conservation, isn't it a part of that anyway.

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So I guess the biggest thing for me in Summit County, I want to be a

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Stuart to the land and land owners that part of that come from understanding the

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conservation and the easement but also in the development side. There's there's a

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big need for that that we've talked about over the years and different

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things like that. So that has a little bit about me. That's all very impressive. Thank

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you very much. I appreciate it.

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Thank you.

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Terry, thanks for being here today.

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Why are you interested in being on the planning commission?

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As I was in here when you talked to Gell about that,

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I wanted to be involved in it for some time.

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The conservation was the first site I got onto,

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but I want to help out not only landowners for the current landowners

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to do exactly that.

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be able to build or divide or subdivide in at least a manner that's good and give the property rights or at least the property owners rights their property or title one but at the same time we need to do it to where we can have that housing.

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As Gail I got asked about housing here, we went up with Blake Moore, our senator to the monastery.

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And we did a study up there for him and we haven't sold a house in two years and I would have been two years prior to this to an in state resident.

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So some of some of not being able to entitle property and that has led us to where we're at now.

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We are getting a lot of outside residents, which is not a bad thing. But at the same time, we need to at least provide a chance for land or so.

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So I will always wanted to chance to be on this board to at least be a good

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steward to the county. We're getting limited on water. We need to do things

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right as far as that goes. But at the same time being advocate for property owner

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and property rights for them. So that is why I want to be here. It is to be a good

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steward to not only the water but the property owners just like myself to have

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that opportunity if that presents itself or if they are so entitled.

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So you live in unincorporated cement county and where do you live?

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Out in Hennifer, Franklin Canyon is where we're out, which is the water source for Hennifer

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Town.

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So we do a lot with Hennifer Town on the water source there, so we just live at the base

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of Franklin Canyon in Hennifer.

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Okay, very good.

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So, you've been on other boards, so you understand.

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And the dynamics of working with other boards, what do you feel, what characteristics do you feel you bring to the table?

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Hopefully the understanding of the hard decisions that it will be based on both sides. Sometimes just like yourself on the board, there's hard yeses in this hard knows. And hopefully having the dynamics and understanding those boards that we went along to help out where we can, but at the same time we have policies and procedures to also watch out for the county and the board.

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I think hopefully that's a dynamic I bring to even if there's a no to present enough

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interformation a communication to whoever it is to say this is why we're doing this it's not a

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personal thing is anything else I I hope that's the biggest I hope that's the biggest thing I

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would bring to the board is at least an understanding of why those decisions are being made.

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Okay and you have a background in construction a little bit. I do I do we did an entitlement

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construction all through the out the oil field we did most all of that for BP and

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five or six other major oil and gas companies out there. So a pretty good career throughout

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in oil field and construction as well as that. Great. Thank you again for applying.

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That's all I have. Thank you.

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Guys, remember Robinson?

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Yeah, I see you've been in Warm Sutter. I was through there yesterday.

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very pleasant.

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And so which of these, I mean, I saw your list of different skills and

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things, but which ones would you highlight as being valuable to the Planning Commission?

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I think some of those we talked about earlier, but adding in there the emphasis on water

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infrastructure, and then also the zoning in which the council is laid forward. As we've

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move just like we had to in the oil field, there are some of our communities that have

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moved from part-time communities, summer communities to full-time communities, and those

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are presented their own problems with septic or different things like that that we had

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to do with.

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I think the council has done a great job at mitigating future for that.

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Hey, we've got to do this for a watch out for water.

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So of the skills laid forward, I hope a good understanding of the progress that has to happen

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versus the process that wants to happen through landowners.

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There's not, and I think there's a good interface right now of things people want to do versus things we can do and that comes with even paper water versus versus liquid water water sources.

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So at all the skills, hopefully the understanding of that change in dynamics.

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You said you were born and raised in some of county five years in central Wyoming, but other than that, you've pretty much been in this far the world working at wholesome.

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I guess you is easy commute from anaphyr.

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very easy. You have time to do this job. I believe so. Most of my time has been trying

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to look at and do real estate. Real estate has always been the number one there as I was

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to transfer back here. I didn't think I would ever work for someone again under a company.

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But real estate is the full time and truly the passion there. So I truly believe that

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and I talked along with my wife about making sure I had time. And as I'm making transfer

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from some land conservancy, which is a big part of my life to this. There's time, and

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I think the passion there to make sure there's enough time to do.

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You do real estate after hours from your wholesome, or you've on 4-10, or something at wholesome.

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We work about half a month, about 15 days. Basically, we were there for taking care of the

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explosives, and we were part time. Now, it's full time, but we're only about 15 days a month.

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So, it's really only half the month and it's not a 4-10, but it's an alternating scheduled

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where you're really off 15 days a month.

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Right.

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Thank you.

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Thanks, Teri.

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I think I can beat you up with some more questions, but I think they covered everything.

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I appreciate you flying.

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I'm sorry, Megan.

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I thought I just started with you.

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My apologies.

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No, I lost track.

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That's all right.

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I started the last one.

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And thank you, Terry, really appreciate your willingness and interest to serve.

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As Roger mentioned, I think my colleagues hit some of the big questions.

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I guess what I would ask and as someone who knows the area well and as followed the current

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issues, what would you say from a planning perspective would be the greatest challenges that

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that eastern summit county is faced with and what do you hope to, in serving, hope to

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contribute?

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Probably the largest, both in the municipality and the county right now is water and water

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sources, transferring of water.

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or the bundle of...

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I think most places are pushing back and making you have water, water shares, and if not, an actual liquid source. So I think making some of those places able to develop that would have an actual water source versus the paper water to have a transfer that. I think that's going to be probably our largest. This year, this year alone probably will probably be the largest.

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probably see some of those faces where most all of the water sources are spring fed in

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somewhere or another. We don't we don't catch a lot of water most of our spring sources.

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I think that's going to be our largest one is is making people even if they have the right

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we've got to have that water right or liquid water there and then in a drainage to where

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that back can be feasible. I think that's probably one of the biggest things we've faced is

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making sure that there's a liquid water to go along with the development no matter how

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that is, no matter if they're zoned or we make an exception for an AG 120 or an 80 or

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whatever else, making sure that we can facilitate that within the county.

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Whether that be wells, the weaver or just spring source water.

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Okay, and with your service, what do you hope to contribute to the planning commission or

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what legacy maybe would you hope to leave behind in your service?

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I think the legacy I would hope to leave behind is exactly that, that the advocate for the

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property rights of the current landowners, but at the same side, that foresight for the

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future of the conservation side of it, we have to have those houses like Yellowstone.

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We have to be not so scared of doing some consolidate housing, some developments with actual affordable

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income housing, whether that be apartments or anything else, but at the same time looking

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for the future. I really think that we want to get back to having property owners feel like they're

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they have an advocate but at the same time still following the procedures that we've set forth

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for all the water. We've had our issues and that like say that the council has done a great job at

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mitigating that in the future but but that's the legacy I'd like to leave behind as there is an

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advocate for for the current landowners whether that be an actual developer or if that's just a farmer

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that says hey I want to do five or six houses because I have that many kids in the responsible at least

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There's still a responsible way for however we do that.

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Well, thank you.

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Again, Terry, really appreciate your interest to serve.

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We'll be making a decision this afternoon.

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And we'll let you know.

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Perfect.

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Thank you.

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Thank you for your time and consideration.

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Really appreciate it.

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Andy, if for any reason this doesn't happen, we have three positions or three applicants for two positions.

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So, you know, I think you got a shot.

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But if not, we're going to draft this up myself.

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Charles, thank you.

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Do we have John? Brian? Did I come in light and you already interviewed

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a couple of the candidates? Wait, Gail. And Michelle and Rebecca are not eligible because

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they are municipal residents when we already... I saw it. I didn't know. We'll be

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affect to that. What was Gail? Yes, it's not online. On my list it says he's supposed

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to be in person. Yeah no I agree but that was a few minutes ago anyway so we'll give

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him a few minutes. We're gonna have a big gap of time anyway so we didn't get the time adjusted

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when we adjusted. And Nat are you listening?

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Did you give Jonathan? She can't talk because she's

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in the attendee's side.

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It's going to be a given call.

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And that client, I hope we heard,

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is wondering if you could hear Johnicle nod to yourself

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if so.

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We're trying to move back into a house.

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It is filled with drywall dust.

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It's still a construction site.

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They're not punished.

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It's all moved.

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Is that Harley Davidson Sanderson?

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We're going to close, and Brian, I think, I've been going to Brian, I think you can contact him, but, uh, if we were to make a decision for this little part of the slide, for the first few of the slides, I mean, if that's the case, I'm going to speak, but I am asking you, you know, my job, if that's the case, we're trying to do what it will feel like. Maybe we're going to have an effect, you do not.

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I'm sorry.

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I have to do that for a while.

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I see, but I was in that area over there at the end.

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It's really funny.

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So I'm going to throw a smoothie call.

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Brian, you get back on?

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Brian, are we back on?

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Yes, Mr. Chair.

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Let's move on to the next item.

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Well, maybe too early to do that.

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When is Lori's not here until 415?

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So we've just got a lot of time to kill.

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So why don't we just hang around close? We'll stand in recess. I don't see anything

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we can pop forward. We'll stand in recess until our next segment, 415, unless we hear

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from the candidate. And if we hear from the candidate, everybody stick fairly close and

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And I think his last line in the movie is, now what will we do?

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What about what I want to do?

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What about the nomination?

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Okay, so we'll stand in recess until 415 with the proviso that if we're able to locate Mr. Olive

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and he's available for an interview we will have his interview at some point before 415

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or potentially after depending on his availability.

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And that, if you're listening,

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put a private investigator down on the man, find him,

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drag him before the council so the week in interview.

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Talk to you soon.

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. . . . . . . .

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Well,

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how many people are eligible to vote? You need to district 10, 12, 15, depending on who you had as a guest at

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dinner last night.

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Yeah, he's the one that told me that he's coming in.

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See him. Mr. Chair, he joined and I tried to promote him and now he's disappeared.

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Okay. I'll watch for him to come back and get him in there for you.

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Be nice to him. You know me. I know you. That's why I said be nice to him.

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Be nice.

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Thanks for watching.

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Good night.

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Yes, a good guy.

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Hello, is the zoo working now?

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Can you hear me?

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I should be unmuted.

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Hi, Janet.

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Oh, hi. Can you hear me okay?

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We can hear you just perfectly.

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Oh, thank you.

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Yeah, sorry about the misunderstanding.

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Yes, how do you want to start?

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Well, I'd like to start by saying thank you for applying.

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I'd like you to turn your camera on if you would please.

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Yeah, sure. Let me see how I do that. We need to see you because in these days of AI, your voice could go away.

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Okay. Let's see. How do I turn my camera on?

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It's a minute. Sorry. I'm not an expert on the zoom.

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You see a little icon usually on the bottom left. It looks like a camera.

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Mr. White, you may actually be a little lime fluid if there is, if you touch step on Mr.

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Chair.

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If I may explain, he is on a phone and so I've just allowed him to talk because the

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last two times I tried to promote him, it bounced him off.

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Well, I can assure you, I'm not AI, I'm a real person.

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I can probably text you a photo if that helps, if you want to see what I look like.

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Well, I don't think we need to do that.

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Okay.

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We'll go ahead and take a chance.

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So John, tell me a little bit about yourself in your own words and let us know why you think you want to join this particular commission.

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Okay, so as you can probably tell from my accent I grew up in the UK.

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But I came to the U.S. to do a master's degree at UCLA, and basically I stayed. That was in the 90s.

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And I bought a house, became a U.S. citizen, and I bought a house in Browns Canyon in 2021,

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just before the union picks. So, and I lived there for about four years, and I had it as a vacation

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house and then I move back to the house in Browns Canyon when COVID happened. I'm a financial

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analyst for an insurance company. I'm still working. I'm not retired yet. I guess I've

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gradually become aware of the importance of planning both through sort of indirect things

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and direct things. The direct things are various plans for development in Browns Canyon,

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which you're probably aware of, the Rodgers Ranch Supply for Resoning. That's one thing that

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made me aware of the importance of it. Then the other thing is I've been concerned about things

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like climate change for a while, and I think it's important that our communities are planned

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in a way that they can adapt to that. So those are the sort of, I guess, principal motivations

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for me.

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What else can I say? I've obviously been an executive in an insurance company,

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so I'm sort of fairly aware of the sort of corporate world and how it works. I'm less

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aware of the sort of not-profit world and the world of the councils, but you know, I'm

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enthusiastic to learn.

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I guess those are sort of in a nutshell my, you know, a bit about

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me and my motivations. Yeah, I live permanently in, in Summit County and in Browse Canyon. And

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I guess like a lot of the people here, my main sort of hobby is outdoor things, fishing,

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skiing and hiking and mountain biking. Either my wife's coach at Deer Valley and tennis coach at

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Mark and I have a daughter who's at the U studying pre-made.

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Yeah, that's sort of a brief summary of kind of who I am.

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Good summary. Thank you very much. I'm going to now turn you over to my fellow council

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members and we have got some questions for you as well. So first I'll ask council member McKenna.

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Thank you. Thank you, John, for your interest in serving on the Eastern Summit County Planning

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Commission. I guess my question for you would be, have you attended planning commission

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meetings? Are you familiar with the role of the planning commission and what skills specifically

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do you think with your background and experience would you bring to that body?

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Okay, yes, I have attended planning committee meetings, so the first one I went to with

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a number of years ago and was when the promontory, the plan, they wanted to change their development

445
01:28:54,450 --> 01:29:01,250
plan, and instead of having a couple of hundred houses, the top of Brown's Canyon, they wanted

446
01:29:01,250 --> 01:29:12,390
to have more, several maybe I think about a thousand. I've attended a number in Zoom where we weren't

447
01:29:12,390 --> 01:29:21,950
allowed to, you know, it was just listening, concerning the Rogers and Ivory Holmes development,

448
01:29:21,950 --> 01:29:32,650
and I've attended some in for Snyderville Basin because I was interested in what was going on

449
01:29:32,650 --> 01:29:38,890
of the junction. So those are the ones I've attended. So I have some idea about how the planning

450
01:29:38,890 --> 01:29:49,090
commission works. I think the main thing that I could bring is compared with other people is

451
01:29:49,090 --> 01:29:54,270
You know, I have pretty good analytical skills from my job.

452
01:29:54,510 --> 01:29:59,190
You know, I understand finance and I understand.

453
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:09,380
I understand numbers, and I have had some training in things like climate change. I did some courses

454
01:30:09,380 --> 01:30:14,060
at UCLA on those. So I think that's what I will bring Council Member.

455
01:30:17,490 --> 01:30:21,530
Great. Thank you. I'll go ahead and pass it along to my colleagues. Appreciate your interest.

456
01:30:22,210 --> 01:30:22,650
Thank you.

457
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:30,440
Thank you so much for applying and being willing to be involved in our community.

458
01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:39,140
Are you on—have you been on any other boards or committees anywhere in the city area

459
01:30:39,140 --> 01:30:40,660
or anywhere for that matter?

460
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:41,740
Yes.

461
01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:50,600
I'm on the board of Temple Harshalam, the Jewish synagogue, and I'm on the investment

462
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:58,100
committee as well as Temple Harshalam, but I've never had a political role.

463
01:30:59,900 --> 01:31:07,900
Okay. That's fine. Is your neighbor Zé Fad in Brown's Canyon? Yes. He lives about

464
01:31:08,480 --> 01:31:14,700
half a mile from me. A bit higher up. But yeah, I know Zé Fad and his wife Lola well.

465
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:20,160
Okay. Yeah. I was just trying to get a gauge of his galley where you were. I have a pretty good idea now.

466
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:29,700
Now, it sounds like the planning commission meetings you have attended are worth for some

467
01:31:29,700 --> 01:31:36,000
controversial subdivisions going on in your name and around.

468
01:31:37,820 --> 01:31:45,860
So what about other items besides controversial developments?

469
01:31:45,860 --> 01:31:50,240
Have you been involved in anything else, specifically planning?

470
01:31:51,540 --> 01:32:01,540
No, I haven't directly, it's not directly with you, but I've had some involvement

471
01:32:01,540 --> 01:32:13,640
with development of trails in the Park City area, but I haven't and I've followed at some

472
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:19,460
of the meetings that have either tended where they discuss controversial things. They've

473
01:32:19,460 --> 01:32:26,200
also discussed things like people building a horse barns and having riding centres and

474
01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:33,000
things like that. So my own interest I'm afraid has tended to be on things that concern

475
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:35,760
me directly up to now or that I'm interested in.

476
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:42,240
Okay, that's fair. What have you learned from attending those meetings? What do you take

477
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:42,620
takeaways.

478
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:54,780
Well, my takeaways are really this sort of need to have balanced the various,

479
01:32:56,280 --> 01:33:04,300
the sort of local and controversial things. It seems a lot of it is the need to balance

480
01:33:04,300 --> 01:33:12,080
the concerns of neighbours and the concerns of the person who wants to do some form of development

481
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:18,940
on their property or change their property. So it's a kind of balance of, I guess,

482
01:33:19,060 --> 01:33:26,560
individuals' property rights against the concerns of neighbours. And I appreciate that.

483
01:33:26,860 --> 01:33:30,080
I can understand why it's important.

484
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:34,960
Okay, thank you very much. I appreciate your time.

485
01:33:35,900 --> 01:33:36,580
No worries.

486
01:33:41,370 --> 01:33:44,170
Thank you for applying.

487
01:33:45,350 --> 01:33:57,250
I think that you have a very interesting background and skill set, and I do not think

488
01:33:57,250 --> 01:33:59,630
I have any questions for you.

489
01:33:59,630 --> 01:34:06,230
I think you're impressed with your willingness to serve and with what you bring.

490
01:34:08,710 --> 01:34:10,690
Okay, yeah, well, thank you, sir.

491
01:34:12,940 --> 01:34:16,240
So John is Roger again, man, let me just check.

492
01:34:16,460 --> 01:34:18,180
Canis, how are you back with us?

493
01:34:20,230 --> 01:34:21,530
No, canis, just checking.

494
01:34:23,190 --> 01:34:25,070
John, do you have time to do this?

495
01:34:26,430 --> 01:34:29,270
Sure, I can stay, I've got time.

496
01:34:30,110 --> 01:34:32,490
No, do you have time to serve on the commission?

497
01:34:32,870 --> 01:34:35,350
Oh, sorry, yes, yeah.

498
01:34:40,550 --> 01:34:50,210
My work schedule is very flexible, and so I spoke, I think it was Amy about the time

499
01:34:50,210 --> 01:34:53,770
requirements, and I don't think there would be any difficulty for me.

500
01:34:53,770 --> 01:34:59,950
The only problem I have is when, you know, I need to attend.

501
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:23,580
So, the commission meets about every two weeks, and the, depending on what their goal is, it can be a fair amount of packet material, you know, for things that are complicated. It could be hundreds of pages of.

502
01:35:23,580 --> 01:35:31,320
to have to read before a meeting, you know, you kind of go from there and then the meetings

503
01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:37,980
can be, you know, fairly involved. The Eastern Summit County Planning Commission is not

504
01:35:37,980 --> 01:35:45,060
just processing applications at this point, but it's also going through a rewrite of the

505
01:35:45,060 --> 01:35:52,140
Eastern Summit County General Plan as well because both planning commissions are undertaking

506
01:35:52,140 --> 01:36:02,660
those efforts right now. So I anticipate that over the next couple of years it will be a pretty

507
01:36:02,660 --> 01:36:11,400
demanding requirement in terms of just the amount of time that it will take to kind of establish be.

508
01:36:12,540 --> 01:36:19,900
So that's really the only consideration if you've got the time. I just want you to consider that.

509
01:36:20,660 --> 01:36:22,520
Yes. Well, thank you for that.

510
01:36:23,640 --> 01:36:27,720
As I say, I don't think the time to say is an issue.

511
01:36:28,100 --> 01:36:38,960
It's more that because I'm still working, you know, I kind of need notice the things in

512
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:42,380
working hours so that I can rearrange my schedule around meetings.

513
01:36:43,480 --> 01:36:47,900
I think that's right. I don't know that there's going to be a lot of time during the day

514
01:36:47,900 --> 01:36:54,340
that you would have to do. But, you know, as well as if they could come up. But I think it's

515
01:36:54,340 --> 01:37:02,680
generally a pretty set schedule. An exception may be, for example, that the council had a meeting with

516
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:09,000
each of the planning commissions over the last couple of months and that's rather than meeting on

517
01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:15,680
the regular meeting day for the commissions. They had an extra meeting or an alternative meeting

518
01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:17,640
with the county council on a Wednesday.

519
01:37:18,200 --> 01:37:22,160
So that doesn't happen, we'd like to happen more frequently

520
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:26,220
than it has been, but it's not something

521
01:37:26,220 --> 01:37:27,760
that comes up several times a year.

522
01:37:28,180 --> 01:37:33,540
So I think the cadence of the meetings

523
01:37:33,540 --> 01:37:36,160
are what they are and probably won't surprise you.

524
01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:39,680
So I think that sounds like it's manageable for you.

525
01:37:40,580 --> 01:37:42,900
Yeah, yeah, that should be okay.

526
01:37:43,660 --> 01:37:44,180
All right.

527
01:37:44,180 --> 01:37:44,300
All right.

528
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:46,220
Well, I want to thank you for applying.

529
01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:47,780
We will make a decision today.

530
01:37:48,140 --> 01:37:50,540
We have three applicants for two positions.

531
01:37:50,940 --> 01:37:57,320
So you've got a pretty good chance, and somebody will be in touch with you ideally before the

532
01:37:57,320 --> 01:37:58,900
end of the day and let you know a decision.

533
01:37:59,700 --> 01:38:00,080
Okay.

534
01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:05,540
Well, thank you very much, sir, and I apologize for you not being able to see me in person.

535
01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:07,840
No worries.

536
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:10,880
You're going to have to show up here in person one day and introduce yourself.

537
01:38:11,260 --> 01:38:11,620
Yeah.

538
01:38:11,620 --> 01:38:14,360
Okay, right. Well, thank you very much.

539
01:38:14,700 --> 01:38:15,840
Thank you, John. Thank you.

540
01:38:16,240 --> 01:38:16,800
Bye-bye.

541
01:38:21,370 --> 01:38:27,550
And I think our next is, um, do you guys want to go to close now?

542
01:38:27,730 --> 01:38:32,830
And you want to wait and do it after, after we're going to have a break at something?

543
01:38:35,430 --> 01:38:36,370
You want to keep going?

544
01:38:38,770 --> 01:38:39,170
Okay.

545
01:38:41,410 --> 01:38:42,490
I love you, ma'am.

546
01:38:42,610 --> 01:38:46,390
More than any fellow horses ever loved you, I gotcha.

547
01:38:47,310 --> 01:38:50,050
Okay, Brian, we're going to stand in recess until 415.

548
01:38:50,930 --> 01:38:52,030
Okay, thank you, Mr. Chairman.

549
01:38:53,770 --> 01:38:54,090
Okay.

550
01:38:55,890 --> 01:38:57,810
I'm going to go finish up the phone call then, too.

551
01:50:58,790 --> 01:51:06,470
Okay, Ryan, the Summit County Council is back in session. And next up, we have presentation of the charity

552
01:51:06,470 --> 01:51:12,410
plan report by Intermountain Park City Hospital with Amy Tuddenham and Laurie Weston.

553
01:51:20,710 --> 01:51:21,390
Are they on

554
01:51:23,190 --> 01:51:32,350
Yes. Are you? Doing okay. Doing okay. I believe I sent my presentation in.

555
01:51:33,830 --> 01:51:41,830
Is Lori coming issue on? Yes. She's coming. She just texted and said she was parking. So I don't know. Okay. We're going to wait a minute. No worries. It's been that kind of day.

556
01:51:43,230 --> 01:51:44,790
We've been starting and stopping.

557
01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:50,660
some people are trying to catch soccer scores while we're

558
01:51:50,660 --> 01:51:53,680
running. Apparently, there's some soccer game being played.

559
01:51:59,300 --> 01:52:01,980
I don't know if Kansas is going to join us in person,

560
01:52:02,160 --> 01:52:03,200
or do we know him?

561
01:52:08,390 --> 01:52:08,910
Get my phone.

562
01:52:11,240 --> 01:52:11,440
Can you see that?

563
01:52:25,000 --> 01:52:30,960
Can you see that?

564
01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:37,340
Can you see that?

565
01:52:37,800 --> 01:52:38,480
Can you see that?

566
01:52:38,480 --> 01:52:42,440
of all issues. I just heard about the message, sometimes the message is back home.

567
01:52:44,880 --> 01:52:51,960
Hi Laurie. Hi, how are you? I'm no see. I know. I'm meeting your husband. Thank you.

568
01:52:53,740 --> 01:53:00,000
Everybody likes me and I bring him along. Very entertaining. I'm very close. Yes.

569
01:53:03,660 --> 01:53:06,260
I'm doing well. I just got in from a

570
01:53:06,260 --> 01:53:09,300
provocation, so I'm feeling like, can I switch from

571
01:53:09,300 --> 01:53:11,820
vacation mode the word home? I've had lunch with

572
01:53:11,820 --> 01:53:17,180
child science in the day. Oh he did! How's he doing? I haven't heard from him since he

573
01:53:17,180 --> 01:53:17,200
I'm sorry.

574
01:53:17,940 --> 01:53:19,000
Right, right.

575
01:53:19,240 --> 01:53:21,420
The body felt great.

576
01:53:22,900 --> 01:53:23,640
Dr. 12.

577
01:53:23,860 --> 01:53:24,380
Exactly.

578
01:53:25,760 --> 01:53:26,320
Yeah.

579
01:53:27,400 --> 01:53:27,960
Yeah.

580
01:53:28,140 --> 01:53:28,740
We missed him.

581
01:53:30,020 --> 01:53:32,720
Yeah, I guess it's a little bit of success.

582
01:53:33,020 --> 01:53:34,280
You've got to come in.

583
01:53:35,080 --> 01:53:35,900
You can see, too.

584
01:53:39,440 --> 01:53:40,880
You're in a good spot.

585
01:53:50,420 --> 01:53:51,200
No worries.

586
01:53:52,240 --> 01:53:53,800
Not in a hurry at all.

587
01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:57,900
Well, I'll just take them in and introduce the, my colleague,

588
01:53:58,040 --> 01:53:59,720
the swathman, this is Laura Claremont.

589
01:54:00,060 --> 01:54:04,520
She is based out of Salt Lake and she is over community

590
01:54:05,140 --> 01:54:05,580
relations.

591
01:54:06,300 --> 01:54:08,420
So she's a colleague that was working with me.

592
01:54:09,080 --> 01:54:09,420
She's a fellow.

593
01:54:09,560 --> 01:54:10,680
I heard that I could see it up here.

594
01:54:11,060 --> 01:54:11,980
Laura, look at the background.

595
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:13,180
Join us.

596
01:54:13,280 --> 01:54:13,780
Thank you.

597
01:54:20,170 --> 01:54:22,530
Claremont, KL, AR, and I need help.

598
01:54:23,010 --> 01:54:23,310
Thank you.

599
01:54:27,310 --> 01:54:31,350
She is community relations manager.

600
01:54:34,110 --> 01:54:36,210
That's what I want my job to be next.

601
01:54:36,730 --> 01:54:38,530
Community relations manager.

602
01:54:38,790 --> 01:54:39,230
I like that.

603
01:54:40,330 --> 01:54:40,850
Congratulations.

604
01:54:48,450 --> 01:54:48,970
Hello.

605
01:54:49,470 --> 01:54:50,050
How are you?

606
01:54:50,450 --> 01:54:50,710
Good.

607
01:54:50,970 --> 01:54:51,670
Welcome to Colville.

608
01:54:52,170 --> 01:54:52,570
Thank you.

609
01:54:52,730 --> 01:54:53,850
It's a pretty dry, isn't it?

610
01:54:53,990 --> 01:54:54,490
Yes, it is.

611
01:54:54,490 --> 01:54:59,690
It's there's not a bad place on the more such, but that's true very lucky.

612
01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:30,220
Let's kick this thing off. Tell us about your charity plan. Let's do it. Okay. Are you advancing this slide? All right. Well, why are we here? We just wanted to let you know that we are regulated to come and meet with you each year. So we want to demonstrate our compliance with IRS nonprofit hospital requirements, demonstrate compliance with the state of Utah.

613
01:55:30,220 --> 01:55:47,360
the non-profit hospital standards meet some county board of equalization reporting expectations and confirm that our total gift, the community exceeds our property tax liability and provide a quick update on the hospital and related services for the community.

614
01:55:47,360 --> 01:55:54,700
Excellent, dive right into that. So if you go to the next slide, you can see, I know these

615
01:55:54,700 --> 01:55:59,300
went out in advance, so I won't read them all to you, but we need or exceed all required

616
01:55:59,300 --> 01:56:04,520
non-profit hospital standards for charitable property tax exemption in the state of Utah.

617
01:56:05,500 --> 01:56:13,400
Go to the next slide. We are a non-profit and we meet the diverse health care needs and

618
01:56:13,400 --> 01:56:18,280
provide excellent care at the lowest appropriate cost and for those that don't have an ability

619
01:56:18,280 --> 01:56:18,760
to pay.

620
01:56:19,140 --> 01:56:21,300
Make sure we're taking care of the whole community.

621
01:56:22,600 --> 01:56:23,360
Next slide.

622
01:56:24,340 --> 01:56:29,120
Being a nonprofit hospital, we strive to show a return and wealth to our shirt.

623
01:56:29,760 --> 01:56:34,780
Being a nonprofit health system, we don't have shareholders.

624
01:56:35,180 --> 01:56:38,960
We have community stakeholders who we are responsible for.

625
01:56:38,960 --> 01:56:42,660
we don't, we don't share profits with shareholders.

626
01:56:43,600 --> 01:56:45,160
Well, for profit system.

627
01:56:45,220 --> 01:56:46,200
Hey guys, hold on.

628
01:56:48,880 --> 01:56:51,690
It happens.

629
01:56:52,050 --> 01:56:52,450
We all know.

630
01:56:53,310 --> 01:56:55,070
It's been interesting to the people that we have.

631
01:56:55,490 --> 01:56:56,930
Thank you.

632
01:56:58,090 --> 01:57:01,270
We prioritize offerings to meet the community need.

633
01:57:01,670 --> 01:57:05,550
Sometimes at a loss, things like behavioral health services,

634
01:57:06,050 --> 01:57:08,970
OB services, we're bringing on cancer services.

635
01:57:08,970 --> 01:57:15,790
And so, although those are at a loss, we invest in the future of these services and provide

636
01:57:15,790 --> 01:57:16,250
the care.

637
01:57:16,510 --> 01:57:19,850
We depend heavily on philanthropy to help us deliver those services.

638
01:57:21,010 --> 01:57:24,450
And we focus on the long-term first-ability and strength.

639
01:57:25,970 --> 01:57:30,290
If you look at these buckets that we've got on the screen, this is our total gift to the

640
01:57:30,290 --> 01:57:30,790
community.

641
01:57:31,210 --> 01:57:38,770
And so, as part of the numbers that I'll show you, the total includes charity care, our education

642
01:57:38,770 --> 01:57:44,550
and services to our staff and the community, medical discounts, donations of our time,

643
01:57:45,490 --> 01:57:51,370
charitable contributions, and also community health improvement, are the things that we look

644
01:57:51,370 --> 01:57:53,630
at to meet the needs of the community.

645
01:57:56,900 --> 01:57:58,280
Go to the next slide.

646
01:58:02,840 --> 01:58:06,760
So if you look at what we would owe in

647
01:58:06,760 --> 01:58:11,780
property tax. It's a little over 600,000. I feel so bad. Sorry.

648
01:58:14,100 --> 01:58:16,700
A little over 600,000. Just charity

649
01:58:16,700 --> 01:58:24,980
care alone that we do for some at county is over 5 million. So just that one thing is enough

650
01:58:24,980 --> 01:58:31,280
to meet that and exceed that requirement. We do a lot more than that for the community if you go

651
01:58:31,280 --> 01:58:37,380
to the next slide. You can see that our charity cares five million. Our total,

652
01:58:37,620 --> 01:58:45,600
our community benefit is over 52 million. We've got capital investments. Last year was 10 million.

653
01:58:45,860 --> 01:58:50,980
By the end of this year, it'll be 50 million with the expansion of cancer services and also the ER

654
01:58:50,980 --> 01:58:58,200
and surgical services that we are adding on to the hospital currently. And then we have bad debt

655
01:58:58,200 --> 01:59:03,460
of over 7 million where we don't collect and those accounts need to be written off.

656
01:59:06,710 --> 01:59:15,410
If you look at the additional gifts to the community, we have over 28 nonprofit partners

657
01:59:15,410 --> 01:59:20,950
in Summit County that we contribute over $500,000 to.

658
01:59:22,970 --> 01:59:26,530
Our largest contribution is to the people's health clinic.

659
01:59:27,370 --> 01:59:33,510
That clinic is not funded, it is not federally funded, it is funded by private donations,

660
01:59:34,110 --> 01:59:38,990
some state grants that the people's health contributes to.

661
01:59:39,850 --> 01:59:45,550
We provide over $2 million in vouchers for the people's health clinic for their patients

662
01:59:45,550 --> 01:59:52,490
to have access to imaging, labs, lifestyle medicine services, things that they normally count

663
01:59:52,490 --> 01:59:59,890
on the board. This year alone, just through the first quarter, we've seen a

664
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:12,260
Over 500,561,000 in imaging and lab visits that equates to about 663 patients. That's a 9% increase

665
02:00:12,260 --> 02:00:18,440
from what we saw last year and the year before it had grown even more. So the people's health clinic

666
02:00:18,440 --> 02:00:27,300
is growing with the community and our support for that clinic will continue to grow. People's

667
02:00:27,300 --> 02:00:30,520
The health clinic is the largest safety net for our patients in the community.

668
02:00:30,940 --> 02:00:37,840
If we did not have that there, it would cost in our mountain a lot more to be able to provide care in this community.

669
02:00:38,540 --> 02:00:43,680
Those patients normally would not access care because they're uninsured or they're undocumented.

670
02:00:44,760 --> 02:00:51,780
And they would come into our emergency rooms in critical condition, which is a huge cost of care.

671
02:00:51,780 --> 02:01:03,700
So, by providing the support that people's health clinic needs, it helps in our mountain maintain its mission to take care of everyone that cannot pay.

672
02:01:04,440 --> 02:01:14,460
But also, we wouldn't be able to deliver all the services and meet the needs of the community if we were using those dollars to go towards charity care and bad debt.

673
02:01:14,800 --> 02:01:19,020
So, it helps us tremendously to have that organization in our community.

674
02:01:21,200 --> 02:01:40,520
Next slide is, these are the other ones that we do support in our community when I talked about the $500,000 additional dollars that we do for nonprofits. Again, these are all safety nets, like the people's health clinic, but the health people's health is our largest.

675
02:01:41,500 --> 02:01:46,340
We also focus on alignment on the community priorities and contribute to those.

676
02:01:46,740 --> 02:01:54,000
We sponsor the bike share, getting people off the roads and on bikes, and also we've got

677
02:01:54,000 --> 02:01:58,220
a bus stop there at the hospital making it convenient for people to access us.

678
02:01:59,080 --> 02:02:03,740
And we've got a bus route that goes between Park City and Heber Valley as well for people

679
02:02:03,740 --> 02:02:06,240
that are working in those communities to go back and forth.

680
02:02:06,240 --> 02:02:22,320
And then our latest is trying to impact affordable housing in the community, how are we making a difference there and how are we contributing with the two developments for a studio crossing and engine house.

681
02:02:22,540 --> 02:02:30,360
We've master least some units there in order to have those available for our caregivers. We just rolled that out this week.

682
02:02:30,360 --> 02:02:38,200
and so we're excited to be able to provide housing for our lowest income caregivers to let them

683
02:02:38,200 --> 02:02:46,460
live and play and work at home. So excited for that. That's our pilot. We're really piloting

684
02:02:46,460 --> 02:02:52,020
this for the Intermountain System to see how this goes and how we really want to do a longer term

685
02:02:52,020 --> 02:03:00,340
solution for housing. We do plan to try to make an investment in the future, but what does

686
02:03:00,340 --> 02:03:08,360
that look like and what is the need. So, excited to do that. Our numbers, our stats, we've

687
02:03:08,360 --> 02:03:16,320
got almost 500 caregivers, 37 licensed beds. We've donated 133 blood units. We've got

688
02:03:16,320 --> 02:03:25,300
18 medical specialties with a few coming on and 196 local providers. We deliver close

689
02:03:25,300 --> 02:03:35,300
most 371 babies per year, almost 4,500 surgeries, and over 14,000 emergency room visits.

690
02:03:38,060 --> 02:03:44,460
We also, as part of our goal is for meeting our community needs analysis.

691
02:03:45,540 --> 02:03:51,980
We focus on improving, having services to improve mental health, improve chronic disease,

692
02:03:52,660 --> 02:04:00,440
and address the in-invest in the social determinants of health increase and also increase our access to care on the washatch back.

693
02:04:01,200 --> 02:04:08,460
This is just a picture of our board. This is our community board. This is the washatch back board that governs both hospitals.

694
02:04:09,060 --> 02:04:16,200
We've had a few changes, but this was the board that was in place last year. We have a new board chair that's Claire Provost.

695
02:04:16,840 --> 02:04:23,620
And then we, as we select members for our board, we look for the diversity also where people are living.

696
02:04:24,000 --> 02:04:26,960
Make sure all voices are represented here in our community.

697
02:04:27,620 --> 02:04:31,180
This is a really pretty bird board member up there that he said it's our first.

698
02:04:32,220 --> 02:04:34,620
Yeah, that's why I put her right in the center.

699
02:04:34,960 --> 02:04:37,500
I'm wondering about the fellow in the lower right.

700
02:04:37,700 --> 02:04:39,740
You kicked him out of the live well center.

701
02:04:40,480 --> 02:04:48,080
And you know what he was he still around which is I would like he tried to retire and he's still working for me

702
02:04:48,080 --> 02:04:56,300
So he is well, why aren't I singing anymore? He's working in concierge and he does do and he does also work in lifetime medicine

703
02:04:56,300 --> 02:04:59,640
So he really is he'll go cover for different physicians

704
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:29,760
All right. I miss him. What's that? I miss him. I know you want to special of where he's covering on certain days and you can get into him. I'm going to text him. Okay. You text him. Sounds good. I wanted to just bring to your attention. And hopefully you'll all mark your calendars. I would love to have the County Council present. We will be opening and celebrating the Council Center on August 20. I will also send you a special invite for a

705
02:05:29,760 --> 02:05:33,820
a four o'clock perception if you can attend that and private tour.

706
02:05:34,180 --> 02:05:38,860
So we'd love to have you join us and be representing in the community.

707
02:05:39,640 --> 02:05:42,000
We're super proud of this expansion.

708
02:05:42,200 --> 02:05:46,800
We do have the ER and surgery imaging expansion coming on in December.

709
02:05:47,020 --> 02:05:48,680
So we'll have another big celebration.

710
02:05:48,920 --> 02:05:52,720
I want to have two parties, not just one, but this is the biggest expansion

711
02:05:52,720 --> 02:05:55,320
since we opened the hospital, since we built the hospital.

712
02:05:55,580 --> 02:05:56,840
And so we're pretty proud of this.

713
02:05:56,840 --> 02:06:01,680
and I don't think any of us when we built the hospital thought we'd be building a cancer

714
02:06:01,680 --> 02:06:07,820
center here and so we've responded to the needs of the community and what the community

715
02:06:07,820 --> 02:06:13,960
is asking for. So this will save people a lot of time and be able to take care of 90% of their

716
02:06:13,960 --> 02:06:16,000
needs for cancer care on the Wasatch Back.

717
02:06:18,390 --> 02:06:22,070
Next slide. I just want to brag a little bit if I haven't

718
02:06:22,070 --> 02:06:28,370
enough, but Park City Hospital ranks top in the nation with quality safety and patient

719
02:06:28,370 --> 02:06:33,930
experience. We've received multiple awards. These are not paid-of-play. These are those

720
02:06:33,930 --> 02:06:40,710
that are sent to us. These get reported out by Medicare, our Medicare scores, and then

721
02:06:41,830 --> 02:06:46,770
these organizations will pick it up and say, hey, you've won our award for quality safety,

722
02:06:46,770 --> 02:06:53,750
patient care, women's services as well. So super proud to have that and be in this community

723
02:06:53,750 --> 02:07:02,150
and let people know they've got great care here. Next slide. Our mission is helping people

724
02:07:02,150 --> 02:07:03,770
live healthiest lives possible.

725
02:07:07,560 --> 02:07:11,960
So these are the government requirements that these were

726
02:07:11,960 --> 02:07:14,940
just more in there. So is that the appendix? Okay. All right.

727
02:07:15,220 --> 02:07:17,940
The appendix. If you want to know what you have to do to both the fire,

728
02:07:18,140 --> 02:07:21,780
you have to make the slides at the end just kind of walk through that.

729
02:07:22,500 --> 02:07:26,080
So I'll leave it at the award slide. Any questions for us concerns?

730
02:07:29,220 --> 02:07:35,600
Thank you. Could you rehearse? Oh, Megan, I didn't see you over there. No, I hear you.

731
02:07:35,640 --> 02:07:40,280
I'll go ahead and kind of. Thank you so much.

732
02:07:42,820 --> 02:07:43,220
And,

733
02:07:43,220 --> 02:07:48,540
city tour with you. That was really fun. And yeah, glad we had that time together.

734
02:07:48,840 --> 02:07:54,480
Thanks for all you do for the community. It's really tremendous and thanks for sharing this today.

735
02:07:55,620 --> 02:08:02,640
My question is more about, you know, your master leasing and this kind of exciting new area you're

736
02:08:02,640 --> 02:08:09,520
looking at. And in terms of employment, have you had challenges keeping or recruiting

737
02:08:09,520 --> 02:08:16,380
employing employment and just kind of wondering where that is right now and if this is one of the strategies to address that.

738
02:08:16,780 --> 02:08:18,160
This is one of the strategies.

739
02:08:19,060 --> 02:08:25,640
The really targeting our techs and below, we have a hard time keeping those positions.

740
02:08:25,640 --> 02:08:33,680
They can go work at Walmart and some of these other places in town and get paid more than what they will as a medical professional.

741
02:08:33,680 --> 02:08:47,420
So looking at those, even at what the rents are listed at and those developments, they're still too high, a $20 an hour caregiver cannot afford, you know, a studio apartment.

742
02:08:48,060 --> 02:09:00,420
So Intermountain is going to subsidize part of that. So for those that are 50% or below AMI, we are going to offer a subsidy to help them bring down what that rent payment is each month.

743
02:09:00,420 --> 02:09:11,800
Well, thank you for that, and the Cancer Center, what a great addition to the community.

744
02:09:12,580 --> 02:09:13,680
So thank you for that.

745
02:09:13,760 --> 02:09:14,960
I look forward to the grand opening.

746
02:09:15,300 --> 02:09:15,780
Thank you.

747
02:09:16,740 --> 02:09:17,440
Go on in.

748
02:09:18,740 --> 02:09:21,020
Ladies, thank you for being here today.

749
02:09:21,640 --> 02:09:21,960
Thank you.

750
02:09:22,140 --> 02:09:27,780
Thank you for all the work that I see does in our community and throughout the state for

751
02:09:27,780 --> 02:09:28,240
that matter.

752
02:09:28,240 --> 02:09:33,800
I'm really excited about the cancer wing that's going on.

753
02:09:33,920 --> 02:09:38,540
That is so needed on the law's edge back that everyone has to drive to Salt Lake.

754
02:09:38,820 --> 02:09:44,700
And when you're going through those situations, that's a drag to have to make that commute.

755
02:09:44,860 --> 02:09:46,320
So this is very, very exciting.

756
02:09:46,820 --> 02:09:48,520
Thank you very much for what you do.

757
02:09:49,000 --> 02:09:49,840
Thank you.

758
02:09:49,840 --> 02:09:50,760
Christian.

759
02:09:52,100 --> 02:09:53,580
Gloria Nehmi and Laura.

760
02:09:54,380 --> 02:09:58,120
I was wondering back to the Heak People's Health Clinic.

761
02:09:58,880 --> 02:09:59,960
A little...

762
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:28,840
About, I think you said you get two million in a few ponds or vouchers. How does that work? They get a voucher of people's health. They bring it up to the hospital for whatever imaging services ordered. And so we, we process that the hospital pays for it. It's mainly just for imaging services. Imaging labs, there's some lip well services that, like, diabetic, if they, if they need diabetic support, those things will,

763
02:10:28,840 --> 02:10:40,320
is that $2 million number? Did you stipulate that that's all you would do or you provide those kind of services to all

764
02:10:40,320 --> 02:10:45,980
comers and that just happens to be in the year that we're talking about the amount?

765
02:10:46,380 --> 02:10:57,380
No, it's a year. It's an amount that's grown. We look at the contract each year to say what's the need and if they need us to, they need more help in that area, we'll increase it.

766
02:10:57,380 --> 02:11:05,220
It's based on the need not on saying you get $2 million of imaging and labs and when you

767
02:11:05,220 --> 02:11:06,600
exceed that you're on your own.

768
02:11:07,080 --> 02:11:10,460
Yeah, but they'll usually call us and say we're getting close to our limit.

769
02:11:10,840 --> 02:11:14,340
You do set at least a penciled in limit.

770
02:11:14,660 --> 02:11:15,280
Yeah, we do.

771
02:11:15,660 --> 02:11:19,580
What other perks do you give the people's health clinic?

772
02:11:19,720 --> 02:11:22,200
I don't know if it's perks but support.

773
02:11:22,200 --> 02:11:30,940
We have, we staff midwives in the clinic there that see the OB and gynecology patients,

774
02:11:31,900 --> 02:11:38,000
especially the OBs, that's until they deliver and then they'll decide where they want to

775
02:11:38,000 --> 02:11:42,000
deliver their baby, but we staff and make sure that they've got women's care there.

776
02:11:44,980 --> 02:11:46,140
Okay, thank you.

777
02:11:47,580 --> 02:11:53,680
You know, I get to say you don't have to go that far back to remember when we didn't have a hospital

778
02:11:53,680 --> 02:11:58,740
in this community at all. We have to get any fever or down to Salt Lake Valley to get treatments.

779
02:11:59,420 --> 02:12:06,780
And now we have one. And the leadership from the Gecko boat administratively and from the

780
02:12:06,780 --> 02:12:12,660
topic, Intermountain down to your local leadership, you've been there since birth, I think it feels

781
02:12:12,660 --> 02:12:21,720
like at this point. And, you know, whether it's Rob Allen or Mark beforehand, the innovations that

782
02:12:21,720 --> 02:12:27,980
this hospital in the additions for a community of this size to have the quality of care,

783
02:12:28,160 --> 02:12:31,220
the scope of care that this hospital provides.

784
02:12:31,620 --> 02:12:38,720
And now a cancer center is kind of mind-boggling and it takes a remarkable team to make of

785
02:12:38,720 --> 02:12:39,240
that happen.

786
02:12:39,860 --> 02:12:47,800
Well, on the answer side, is it only certain kinds of cancers, certain kinds of treatments?

787
02:12:48,200 --> 02:12:51,700
Is it remedied in some way or how would it compare to something like that?

788
02:12:52,280 --> 02:12:58,520
It's not limited. We've got we'll have a medical oncologist on site and it's general medical

789
02:12:58,520 --> 02:13:04,280
medical oncology so they'll be able to see all patients and also radiation oncology will

790
02:13:04,280 --> 02:13:09,500
be on site so you can get your radiation and see your radiation oncologist. What will

791
02:13:09,500 --> 02:13:16,520
differ is we're not going to do brain cancers. We're not going to do lung cancers but we are

792
02:13:16,520 --> 02:13:23,720
able to do the majority. So we do prostate cancer, breast cancer, dermatology, most cancer,

793
02:13:23,900 --> 02:13:30,260
we're already doing. Those are the most prevalent on the Wasatch back, also thyroid cancers.

794
02:13:30,940 --> 02:13:35,280
So the majority of it, as long as we have the surgeon there on site, we can do it.

795
02:13:36,100 --> 02:13:42,180
So those other specialty surgeries will need to go down to one of our other facilities for, you know,

796
02:13:42,180 --> 02:13:49,600
brain, also transfusion, things like that. We'll need to go down to the valley. But the

797
02:13:49,600 --> 02:13:54,260
majority of everything else, like their radiation, their chemo, infusions, that all can be done

798
02:13:54,260 --> 02:13:55,020
on the washach.

799
02:13:55,120 --> 02:14:02,480
I'm nice to not have to make the trip down in these things that really are burdened on patients

800
02:14:02,480 --> 02:14:03,660
is to do that right.

801
02:14:04,100 --> 02:14:09,820
Amazing. So that, the new extension that's going on the hospital, it's a cancer center, is

802
02:14:09,820 --> 02:14:13,240
Is it also a circuitry center or what else is going on in there?

803
02:14:13,280 --> 02:14:15,360
It's a main entrance on the back of the hospital.

804
02:14:15,360 --> 02:14:18,700
What's being built on the back of the hospital is the linear accelerator.

805
02:14:18,960 --> 02:14:25,280
So that's the radiation center, but there'll be an entrance into the hospital on that backside

806
02:14:25,280 --> 02:14:25,740
now.

807
02:14:27,020 --> 02:14:27,760
Really amazing.

808
02:14:28,160 --> 02:14:33,940
And the work that you're doing on the housing is also noteworthy and something that I hope

809
02:14:33,940 --> 02:14:35,460
other employers take a look at.

810
02:14:35,460 --> 02:14:49,800
There's one of our lobbyists actually approached me about a client that he's got in Walshedge County and the Walshedge Heber Hospital may also be taking advantage of it, but that developer, I think as I've mentioned before in Council meetings, the Internet or agreements.

811
02:14:50,400 --> 02:14:58,940
I think with the fire district, the police will share it for both and maybe the hospital school districts for sure.

812
02:14:58,940 --> 02:14:59,340
Thank you very much.

813
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:21,200
The last release is in the same kind of way. So it gave the developer a guaranteed stream of income. And I think there were five or 10 year deals. What he thought they were doing so that it was a longer term and something they didn't have to worry too much about. So thanks for that. No, thank you. It's going to take all of us to solve it. Amen.

814
02:15:23,740 --> 02:15:26,640
What have you done lately, Miss Amy?

815
02:15:27,580 --> 02:15:39,840
Well, I actually put a lot of time and effort into that caregiver housing, affordable housing thing because it's a complex message to communicate the caregivers when they're wondering where am I going to live.

816
02:15:40,400 --> 02:15:49,200
We are doing it as a workforce retention, but we're also finding that our caregivers want to live locally.

817
02:15:49,200 --> 02:15:55,140
And so it's just been interesting and they've come to us with questions about how can I afford to live here? What's a AMI?

818
02:15:55,800 --> 02:15:58,640
And so that's been a really good message to get to our community.

819
02:15:59,240 --> 02:16:07,340
And then the one thing that I want to add that Laurie addressed with the other with the expansion is we really focused on the cancer services.

820
02:16:07,820 --> 02:16:11,820
But we're also expanding the ER and the surgery suite.

821
02:16:11,820 --> 02:16:16,660
and so when you get completely to the west side of the hospital by the parking garage and where the

822
02:16:16,660 --> 02:16:22,720
helipad is, you'll see that we're expanding both the lower, the first level and the second level

823
02:16:22,720 --> 02:16:34,960
and natural health ER and surgery and endoscopy. The ER is mainly trauma-based. Right now we just have

824
02:16:34,960 --> 02:16:41,020
a trauma room with curtains and so we do a lot of trauma here and so we're adding four trauma-based

825
02:16:41,020 --> 02:16:44,900
which will help with the capacity and the art.

826
02:16:45,600 --> 02:16:51,080
And then the last thing that I want to add is Lori spoke to our community, our community

827
02:16:51,080 --> 02:16:52,060
help lead assessment.

828
02:16:52,720 --> 02:16:58,960
So if you attended the park city leadership symposium back in March, I brought up Lisa Nichols

829
02:16:58,960 --> 02:17:02,940
a colleague of ours who is lead community help and we're really trying to figure out what

830
02:17:02,940 --> 02:17:05,540
are those social drivers of health that we can make the most impact.

831
02:17:05,540 --> 02:17:19,540
So a large part of my job this year will be roundly visiting with superintendents and principals and Christian Center of Park City and finding out what are you guys working on and where can we show up and partner.

832
02:17:19,880 --> 02:17:35,200
Not all the time do I have dollars to bring the table but I have a lot of resources so that's a big part of what I'm trying to accomplish this year is sitting down, understanding what our communities are working on and then how we can best show up.

833
02:17:35,200 --> 02:17:43,040
because we know that we can address those social drivers of health, we can eventually get upstream, and we can start on illness,

834
02:17:43,600 --> 02:17:48,500
or send fools, people out of coming to the hospital at the most expensive point of the year.

835
02:17:49,680 --> 02:17:52,300
So those are some things that I'm excited about this year.

836
02:17:52,860 --> 02:18:03,100
It's really amazing because again, in a community of this size, in a place like Los Angeles trying to address those social determinants,

837
02:18:03,100 --> 02:18:09,340
It kind of gets washed out just because size limits the impact, but here by undertaking

838
02:18:09,340 --> 02:18:14,600
those kinds of activities and going directly to the nonprofits and others to the schools

839
02:18:14,600 --> 02:18:19,740
and other places to try and deliver that message and figure out where that intersection is,

840
02:18:20,840 --> 02:18:28,120
you're bringing any level healthcare and solutions to a local problem that makes the impact even

841
02:18:28,120 --> 02:18:29,880
greater, I think, which is awesome.

842
02:18:30,460 --> 02:18:30,740
Thank you.

843
02:18:32,200 --> 02:18:33,680
Larry, anything you'd like to add?

844
02:18:34,040 --> 02:18:34,340
Oh,

845
02:18:42,900 --> 02:18:43,840
I'm so sorry.

846
02:18:44,200 --> 02:18:45,520
I'm just going to go up from here.

847
02:18:46,340 --> 02:18:46,740
There's that.

848
02:18:50,120 --> 02:18:50,920
Thank you.

849
02:18:51,600 --> 02:18:51,840
Of course.

850
02:18:52,520 --> 02:18:53,600
Castle, anything else?

851
02:18:55,020 --> 02:18:55,580
Thanks, Larry.

852
02:18:55,780 --> 02:18:56,660
Amy and Laura, thank you.

853
02:18:56,760 --> 02:18:57,260
Thank you.

854
02:18:57,420 --> 02:18:57,660
Take care.

855
02:18:59,240 --> 02:18:59,640
Okay.

856
02:18:59,640 --> 02:19:04,340
Next up, I think we're going to talk about recreation, which is one of the social determinants

857
02:19:04,340 --> 02:19:05,860
of health, if you'd like to stick around.

858
02:19:19,920 --> 02:19:22,920
Did you take advantage of the surgical center over the hospital?

859
02:19:27,120 --> 02:19:27,920
Welcome back.

860
02:19:28,240 --> 02:19:28,780
How are you?

861
02:19:29,240 --> 02:19:29,520
I'm good.

862
02:19:29,700 --> 02:19:29,900
How are you?

863
02:19:30,200 --> 02:19:30,760
I'm doing okay.

864
02:19:33,100 --> 02:19:34,280
Turn your mic on.

865
02:19:34,360 --> 02:19:35,560
Look for the little green light.

866
02:19:36,160 --> 02:19:36,560
Middle button.

867
02:19:36,800 --> 02:19:37,040
We're good.

868
02:19:37,300 --> 02:19:37,760
It's all good.

869
02:19:38,360 --> 02:19:39,940
So who is running the slideshow for?

870
02:19:40,340 --> 02:19:48,040
So today Rob is going to tell us about the potential geo-bond for new facilities first night of our basement rack.

871
02:19:48,860 --> 02:19:48,940
Yep.

872
02:19:50,540 --> 02:19:51,820
Okay, so we'll start with one.

873
02:19:52,340 --> 02:19:55,820
So you just start off thank you for allowing me to come on to your agenda.

874
02:19:56,120 --> 02:19:59,520
Really tonight's not really going to be, we're not looking for decisions more informational.

875
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:29,940
Just to kind of get you up to speed so that as we do come towards the end of July, August, and we're ready to present our bond package. A lot of the questions already been answered. And you guys have already been up to speed. So, you know, what I'm going to share is really what we heard in May. You're aware that we had kind of an open house public forum and a survey back in May of our residents. And what, you know, mainly what I'm looking for also is just some direction from you knowing that we have a couple properties that are in play. There's been some conversations about recreation.

876
02:20:29,940 --> 02:20:33,720
and facilities with many developers and other things that are coming to the community.

877
02:20:33,920 --> 02:20:35,920
Just making sure we're kind of on track with what you guys are thinking.

878
02:20:36,540 --> 02:20:42,820
And then I will be back in July on the 15th to kind of update with where we are with our second phase of public outreach.

879
02:20:43,420 --> 02:20:46,580
We're going to synthesize some of the data that we gathered in May.

880
02:20:46,820 --> 02:20:49,120
We'll have some renderings and some other information.

881
02:20:49,460 --> 02:20:52,560
And at that point in time, we'll really be able to start talking about bond cost.

882
02:20:53,200 --> 02:20:55,940
So they're really not as much to talk about as far as bond costs tonight.

883
02:20:55,940 --> 02:20:58,260
So next slide, please.

884
02:20:58,460 --> 02:21:00,620
So we're on, nope, go back one, I'm sorry.

885
02:21:02,890 --> 02:21:04,490
Yep, all right, so what we didn't phase one.

886
02:21:04,970 --> 02:21:06,850
So we had three open houses in May.

887
02:21:07,470 --> 02:21:09,810
We did a full morning session from open

888
02:21:09,810 --> 02:21:12,670
till about 12.30 at the field house on a Tuesday.

889
02:21:12,950 --> 02:21:16,230
We did a Wednesday evening session at our trail site office.

890
02:21:16,230 --> 02:21:19,070
And then we did a Thursday afternoon back at the field house

891
02:21:19,630 --> 02:21:20,570
where we had some boards.

892
02:21:20,570 --> 02:21:23,670
We presented site maps, programmatic bubble diagrams

893
02:21:23,670 --> 02:21:31,450
of some options of what we were thinking based on the 2023 survey which went into our 2024 strategic plan.

894
02:21:31,870 --> 02:21:35,990
So there's already been some input from the public as far as what recreation activities programs

895
02:21:36,670 --> 02:21:39,670
and what facilities would be needed to support those programs.

896
02:21:40,870 --> 02:21:42,350
We did a public survey.

897
02:21:42,850 --> 02:21:53,050
We had 1414 responses to the survey along with over 200 in-person contact with people at the field as of the various different times.

898
02:21:53,050 --> 02:21:59,390
And then, you know, looking at both of those, the unofficial survey from May, and then

899
02:21:59,390 --> 02:22:05,290
our 2023 Statistically Valid Voter Survey, we're going to use that survey at the 2023

900
02:22:05,290 --> 02:22:08,610
is kind of our driving force because it was statistically valid.

901
02:22:09,010 --> 02:22:16,450
It was a directional survey, so it was based on a demographic of voters, whereas the one

902
02:22:16,450 --> 02:22:18,950
we just did last month was really just open to anybody.

903
02:22:18,950 --> 02:22:21,690
So, next slide, please.

904
02:22:23,390 --> 02:22:29,130
What we asked residents about, we talked about funding in taxes, really, you know, our

905
02:22:29,130 --> 02:22:32,290
voters are pretty keen, they recognize they were probably going to have to bond for

906
02:22:32,290 --> 02:22:32,430
this.

907
02:22:32,630 --> 02:22:36,350
So that was, you know, the question I got a lot was, well, how much the bond is going to be?

908
02:22:36,470 --> 02:22:38,670
And it's like, well, it depends on what you want in the facility.

909
02:22:39,350 --> 02:22:41,130
So, you know, we'll figure that out.

910
02:22:41,490 --> 02:22:46,690
There was some concern over our fees, over resident versus non-resident, and we have a lot

911
02:22:46,690 --> 02:22:48,290
a lot of things in play to kind of help address that.

912
02:22:48,890 --> 02:22:51,970
A couple of big things that they did ask about were aquatics.

913
02:22:52,330 --> 02:22:55,110
There definitely has been a strong demand for more swim lanes,

914
02:22:55,690 --> 02:22:56,890
a family-style wreck pool,

915
02:22:56,910 --> 02:22:58,230
similar to what they have in campus,

916
02:22:58,870 --> 02:23:01,430
along with, we got confirmation that really,

917
02:23:02,050 --> 02:23:04,590
people are preferring the Silver Creek village area

918
02:23:04,590 --> 02:23:06,110
for the aquatics when we went out in May,

919
02:23:06,270 --> 02:23:10,190
our program bubble diagram showed the aquatic center

920
02:23:10,190 --> 02:23:12,690
at what we're calling our East Canyon complex

921
02:23:12,690 --> 02:23:14,270
on the Clindalli property,

922
02:23:14,270 --> 02:23:19,750
by overwhelming. Most people wanted that at Silver Creek and then it was also

923
02:23:19,750 --> 02:23:24,730
a desire for a full-spec climbing facility. Really something that's 40 feet tall,

924
02:23:24,870 --> 02:23:30,070
top rope, some bouldering, really something that would fill the need from what

925
02:23:30,070 --> 02:23:33,790
was the mine when it closed years ago. There really isn't anything up here for

926
02:23:33,790 --> 02:23:39,410
that so meeting that need for the public as well. Sports and courts, there's more

927
02:23:39,410 --> 02:23:42,910
need for more indoor courts even with the field house that we have here. There's a

928
02:23:42,910 --> 02:23:48,090
need for some indoor or volleyball, basketball, winter type programs.

929
02:23:48,830 --> 02:23:53,730
And then we also talked about outdoor sports, but I've had some conversations with Park

930
02:23:53,730 --> 02:23:57,150
City Pickleball and a few others, and they're really wanting us to focus on some outdoor

931
02:23:57,150 --> 02:23:57,950
courts for them.

932
02:23:58,390 --> 02:24:02,810
So we'll focus that on phase two, fitness and wellness as a driver.

933
02:24:02,970 --> 02:24:07,350
You'll see here in a little bit about what is the need for fitness and wellness, larger

934
02:24:07,350 --> 02:24:07,890
weight rooms.

935
02:24:08,310 --> 02:24:09,970
Really, it's not even larger, it's just more.

936
02:24:09,970 --> 02:24:24,230
And having two facilities in these other two new neighborhoods will really give us three facilities within the district where residents can choose some places closer to their home for their lifestyle fitness and wellness and really not have to fight off crowds.

937
02:24:24,790 --> 02:24:36,450
And we'll also be able to take the two new facilities and really focus them on various different types of cardio weightlifting, whether it be heavy weights, Olympic style weightlifting, more of a pilates or other type of fitness activities.

938
02:24:37,150 --> 02:24:41,730
And then the site in the process, obviously we know Silver Creek has some traffic constraints

939
02:24:41,730 --> 02:24:42,370
right now.

940
02:24:42,670 --> 02:24:46,750
So I have to work with you, the county as well as you dot to figure out traffic that's

941
02:24:46,750 --> 02:24:48,910
there as we as we look at our development plan.

942
02:24:49,530 --> 02:24:55,730
And then there was also some skepticism about prior plan versions, obviously part of me getting

943
02:24:55,730 --> 02:24:55,970
here.

944
02:24:55,970 --> 02:24:56,870
There was talk.

945
02:24:56,870 --> 02:24:59,590
I mean, Silver Creek Village had been in the work since 2015.

946
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:29,820
If not before. So, you know, there's been iterations of things that have come out to the public where we're asking about things. But I think, hopefully, what we can let them know right now is that we're at the point where we're making a decision. We're moving forward. We're taking a little bit more public information, some input from our residences to what they want. And, hopefully, by having this bond initiative on the ballot come November, we'll show that we're serious. We're really going to move forward with it this time. And then, really, what they also wanted to solve was capacity without cutting key amenities.

947
02:25:29,820 --> 02:25:33,400
and really be transparent about the cost, which I have no problem with.

948
02:25:35,120 --> 02:25:37,200
Slide four, next slide, please.

949
02:25:38,160 --> 02:25:42,580
All right, so really what we found in the survey is that there is suppressed demand.

950
02:25:43,220 --> 02:25:47,800
So out of the 1,400 people we surveyed 61% of avoided the field house due to crowding.

951
02:25:48,380 --> 02:25:53,860
It's a pretty, pretty big number, 51% of non-user-so-people who responded to the survey that said

952
02:25:53,860 --> 02:25:56,900
they haven't used the field house, say they don't come because they know it's crowded.

953
02:25:56,900 --> 02:26:03,860
And then 25, 29% use the facility less than they want, and then another 25% go elsewhere

954
02:26:03,860 --> 02:26:04,200
instead.

955
02:26:04,420 --> 02:26:07,920
So they're meeting their fitness and recreation needs somewhere else because of the

956
02:26:07,920 --> 02:26:08,900
capacity in the field house.

957
02:26:09,380 --> 02:26:10,480
I'm one and four.

958
02:26:10,960 --> 02:26:15,900
I used to go to, I did, I went to the field house every week and now I go to the

959
02:26:15,900 --> 02:26:20,600
mark because it's just, it's easier to rotate and anecdotally you'll see.

960
02:26:20,800 --> 02:26:24,780
So, you know, as an aside, next month I'll be bringing, we're in the process of updating

961
02:26:24,780 --> 02:26:29,660
our impact fee facility plan. I'll bring that before you next month, and it'll show that

962
02:26:29,660 --> 02:26:35,220
the field house will be at capacity as of next year. So, you know, they're really, and it's showing.

963
02:26:35,400 --> 02:26:39,700
So our residents are recognizing it, that the facility is recognizing it in the use,

964
02:26:40,040 --> 02:26:44,220
and we really need to know with what growth is coming, we need to increase capacity.

965
02:26:45,520 --> 02:26:50,820
And then really politically, 51% of non-users really reframe the case. They say the need is

966
02:26:50,820 --> 02:26:53,520
community, why not just recreation users are driven.

967
02:26:53,800 --> 02:26:54,900
So there's other things out there.

968
02:26:54,960 --> 02:26:57,660
So the people that are fitness minded recognize it.

969
02:26:57,660 --> 02:26:59,700
Hey, there's other things that our facilities provide

970
02:26:59,700 --> 02:27:00,980
to the community that are benefit.

971
02:27:01,420 --> 02:27:03,020
So we really need to address these two committees.

972
02:27:03,160 --> 02:27:05,700
And by having two facilities kind of be different,

973
02:27:05,740 --> 02:27:07,240
but yet the same and offer the same,

974
02:27:07,300 --> 02:27:09,540
we'll be able to diversify our offering.

975
02:27:10,040 --> 02:27:12,020
And that's really important because we don't have

976
02:27:12,020 --> 02:27:14,960
a single user group in the basin that is the majority.

977
02:27:15,360 --> 02:27:17,080
I can't say that, you know, pickle wallers

978
02:27:17,080 --> 02:27:18,840
are 51% of our users.

979
02:27:18,840 --> 02:27:25,100
youth soccer, they're not 51%. We really do have a lot of majority. We have a wide variety of

980
02:27:25,100 --> 02:27:29,680
interests and tastes and sports and recreation in Basin, which is a good thing, and we just need to

981
02:27:29,680 --> 02:27:35,820
be able to broaden our program offerings to meet the needs of more people. Next slide, please.

982
02:27:37,020 --> 02:27:43,870
So we're looking at the four amenity pillars. From 2023 and most recently, really we're going to

983
02:27:43,870 --> 02:27:52,590
around four strong demand drivers. Again, strengthen fitness being the number one, provide more, provide a little bit more diversity in that category.

984
02:27:53,150 --> 02:28:04,210
Indoor turf, it's been apparent that a lot of additional indoor turf is needed. But some of the response we got is that the current field is too small, which it's really not sized for anything.

985
02:28:04,810 --> 02:28:11,590
And we'll talk about that a little later, but we were looking now at making the side the field bigger so that we can actually have two teams practicing at the same time.

986
02:28:12,230 --> 02:28:18,850
In-door courts, basketball, volleyball, racket sports is a big request along with climbing.

987
02:28:19,230 --> 02:28:24,090
And that would include bouldering, top rope, and then major cross-generational appeal.

988
02:28:24,310 --> 02:28:27,990
So there's a lot of youth there involved in climbing, there's a lot of older generation.

989
02:28:28,490 --> 02:28:30,270
And really that's kind of what we're also seeing.

990
02:28:30,690 --> 02:28:37,270
And we saw that, particularly with our wheel sports complex project that we did some open

991
02:28:37,270 --> 02:28:39,370
and public house for is that, you know, with the wheel sports,

992
02:28:39,590 --> 02:28:43,370
skateboarders, and others, that there really is multi-generational.

993
02:28:43,530 --> 02:28:48,650
So having facilities that speak to not only the established adults that are practicing

994
02:28:48,650 --> 02:28:52,870
in a sport of recreation activity, older adults that are continuing and enjoy it,

995
02:28:53,110 --> 02:28:57,450
but then also having facilities then that allow for the development of our youth

996
02:28:57,450 --> 02:29:01,070
to enjoy those things as well, really allows all generations to come in

997
02:29:01,070 --> 02:29:05,430
and really celebrate and enjoy recreation for specific activity and participate.

998
02:29:05,430 --> 02:29:09,490
Okay, pools are of an interest indoor track.

999
02:29:09,970 --> 02:29:14,590
We initially showed we would have probably four lap lanes, request was, go six or eight.

1000
02:29:15,690 --> 02:29:18,850
Again, the community shows that, you know, don't go small.

1001
02:29:19,370 --> 02:29:21,550
Make it, you know, don't make it too small from the beginning.

1002
02:29:21,930 --> 02:29:23,010
Go to the right size.

1003
02:29:23,550 --> 02:29:30,530
And then, really, what we're hearing is that any bond that emits any one of these four core areas probably wouldn't succeed.

1004
02:29:30,530 --> 02:29:35,710
So we have to build a coalition of residents based on offering all four of these and if we were to drop one

1005
02:29:35,710 --> 02:29:40,850
We'd probably lose the significant part of the population and we wouldn't pass the bond. So we're really trying to

1006
02:29:41,410 --> 02:29:46,790
Not be everything to everyone, but broadener horizons offer new offerings that would then

1007
02:29:47,330 --> 02:29:53,750
Appeal to those people who have avoided basin or avoided the fieldhouse because of overpopulation of our grouting or just the lack of program

1008
02:29:54,610 --> 02:29:55,750
Next slide, please

1009
02:29:58,510 --> 02:29:59,890
For the site preference, overall,

1010
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:28,540
All people preferred silver creek. It led at 61%, but a good chunk of those people said that they would support a facility in a non-preferred site. And then we, in our survey from May, we asked people to identify where they live. So zone C was the area around Silver Creek Village. Zone E was the Kimble and Trailside and Old Ranch Road area. Zone B was Glen Wilde, and this year States and AMD was that area, Jeremy Ranch and Pinebrook.

1011
02:30:28,540 --> 02:30:43,500
And for the most part, you know, it was clear residents would prefer having a facility near them, but they also recognize the fact that we need a new facility and for the most part they would say if you built something, you know, we're going to come to it, but we prefer one closer to us.

1012
02:30:44,020 --> 02:30:57,900
But I think that we have the opportunity with two good sites that if we develop them appropriately and program them appropriately, we're going to be able to provide those core elements, fitness and wellness to everybody close to home.

1013
02:30:57,900 --> 02:31:08,140
And then provide that new thing to basin that people would mind driving to across the district to go for climate or across the district to go for slimming as only do that.

1014
02:31:09,120 --> 02:31:09,880
Next slide, please.

1015
02:31:11,440 --> 02:31:16,320
So in the design direction, we originally showed about a 76,000 square foot facility.

1016
02:31:16,720 --> 02:31:17,260
Silver Creek Village.

1017
02:31:17,520 --> 02:31:24,080
Most people said it was too small, particularly with the addition of wanting the field to be bigger than the one we have now.

1018
02:31:24,080 --> 02:31:32,800
So currently working with a program size of about 120,000 square feet, which in for comparison the current field house is about 84,000.

1019
02:31:33,240 --> 02:31:34,900
So even bigger than the current field house.

1020
02:31:35,940 --> 02:31:42,540
And then 66% of people said that the facilities were the right size in in combination or even at the stand alone.

1021
02:31:43,940 --> 02:31:49,560
Key design directives, we want people wanted us to concentrate the aquatics, both the lap lines in the right pool.

1022
02:31:50,200 --> 02:31:53,260
and they want to fully plan from the start at Silver Creek Village.

1023
02:31:53,560 --> 02:31:57,400
They wanted a larger field and want to say that in an extended track.

1024
02:31:57,680 --> 02:32:02,580
So our current field really doesn't measure by any sports management program standard.

1025
02:32:02,580 --> 02:32:03,540
It was just built.

1026
02:32:04,540 --> 02:32:06,520
And then so what we're planning on is a 9v9,

1027
02:32:06,520 --> 02:32:10,760
which is really having nine players versus nine players on a full on that size field.

1028
02:32:11,060 --> 02:32:15,500
But what it gives us the ability is to divide it into and really have two teams practicing at the same time,

1029
02:32:15,500 --> 02:32:19,860
which seems to be one of the community's complaints is that if one team is using the field,

1030
02:32:19,940 --> 02:32:23,820
another team can't, and we only have the one field. So by going with a little bit of a bigger

1031
02:32:23,820 --> 02:32:28,360
field, it's over a great village. We would technically be able to have three teams practicing indoor

1032
02:32:28,360 --> 02:32:33,020
at the same time. And then having the indoor field would also take the pressure off of us to try

1033
02:32:33,020 --> 02:32:37,540
and maintain some of our outdoor fields, allowing them in February. So lacrosse and soccer teams can

1034
02:32:37,540 --> 02:32:43,440
get on and start practicing early in the spring. We'll have an indoor facility. Major fitness floors

1035
02:32:43,440 --> 02:32:48,880
were also wanted, allocate more space with courts, and they wanted that move to the East

1036
02:32:48,880 --> 02:32:53,640
Canyon. So we're going to build the, we're planning for three additional basketball courts

1037
02:32:53,640 --> 02:32:58,480
at East Canyon, and that would also allow us for some multi-use programming, whether that be indoor

1038
02:32:58,480 --> 02:33:02,160
fitness, along with the traditional sports that would use a court, basketball, volleyball,

1039
02:33:02,620 --> 02:33:08,380
racket sports. And of course, locker rooms and circulation was one of the things that, you know,

1040
02:33:08,600 --> 02:33:12,660
with what we had to do with the locker room at the field house, that was a big concern, of course,

1041
02:33:12,660 --> 02:33:18,420
being able to design from scratch will be able to meet Utah legal requirements for, you know,

1042
02:33:18,580 --> 02:33:23,040
separation, privacy and all that. And we are planning for bigger locker rooms and with a flow

1043
02:33:23,040 --> 02:33:26,880
that makes more sense to the restroom side of it would be separated from the locker room side,

1044
02:33:27,020 --> 02:33:31,840
closer to where they're going to be used with a wet and dry separation, which is also a big

1045
02:33:31,840 --> 02:33:35,180
complaint that we're hearing now is that the locker rooms are right near the showers and we just

1046
02:33:35,180 --> 02:33:40,060
just water all over the place. So we can address that. And then of course, one of the things that I'm

1047
02:33:40,060 --> 02:33:43,760
I'm stressing the residences, what we're trying to do is plan this in a phased approach,

1048
02:33:44,340 --> 02:33:47,440
knowing that we would use the bond to build the core facilities.

1049
02:33:47,600 --> 02:33:51,820
I need the facility and we could use additional funding, whether it be impact fees, grants,

1050
02:33:51,860 --> 02:33:56,900
or other funds to then build out additional phases, what I'm calling phase two, the groundwork.

1051
02:33:57,040 --> 02:33:59,740
Whether we put in the baseball field, whether we put in another pickleball,

1052
02:34:00,240 --> 02:34:02,540
an outdoor pickleball facility, that would be phase two.

1053
02:34:03,020 --> 02:34:05,160
Get us the building and get us going there.

1054
02:34:05,360 --> 02:34:07,520
That would take the pressure on the field house and provide the indoor.

1055
02:34:07,520 --> 02:34:16,740
And then we can continue to plan with the next five to ten years to continue our growth where it's appropriate as the residents come to provide additional outdoor recreation at these two facilities.

1056
02:34:18,080 --> 02:34:19,100
Next slide please.

1057
02:34:20,400 --> 02:34:27,380
For East Canyon, we proposed a 42,000 square foot facility and this is one where most people said it's just too small.

1058
02:34:28,100 --> 02:34:32,460
Even though we have some site constraints with the property, we can't go too big because

1059
02:34:32,460 --> 02:34:37,720
of some wetlands and some other things there, but we can, I think, comfortably grow it with

1060
02:34:37,720 --> 02:34:43,020
the addition of the three indoor basketball indoor courts to about 64,000 square feet.

1061
02:34:43,520 --> 02:34:45,980
There's a little bit smaller in the current field house, but bigger than what we showed.

1062
02:34:46,540 --> 02:34:50,980
And that would also allow us to give us, basically, an award class, but it would be able to give

1063
02:34:50,980 --> 02:34:55,860
us a very good climbing facility in there that our climbing community and others who have

1064
02:34:55,860 --> 02:34:59,620
not introduced to plumbing would really take advantage of that facility.

1065
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:22,200
And it would be worthwhile. And it's another thing we heard from the climate facility. Don't just do it halfway. If you're going to do something, do us give us 40 foot, give us top rope, give us some bouldering, give us some some variety, something that can be scaled and changed and modified. If you had somebody there that could modify the layout. So it's not just static and it's once they come and climb it. Climb it once and I'm done. So we'll be able to change the programming there.

1066
02:35:27,380 --> 02:35:33,480
And then some of the core directives that came from East Canyon, they definitely want us to right side the building.

1067
02:35:34,620 --> 02:35:38,860
They wanted the full spec climbing and moved the courts from Silver Creek, wellness identity.

1068
02:35:39,400 --> 02:35:44,360
This is also where they said, hey, a sauna, cold plunge, something like that to go along

1069
02:35:44,360 --> 02:35:49,080
with the regular fitness to give us some differentiation because there's people that recognize

1070
02:35:49,080 --> 02:35:55,220
that sauna, cold plunge, different types of recovery and warm up along with exercise go to the total wellness.

1071
02:35:55,760 --> 02:35:58,780
So they wanted to consider that in that facility, which we absolutely are.

1072
02:35:59,440 --> 02:36:28,640
And then the only other thing here is that we did get questions from our residents, you know, the land ownership issue, and I've had conversations with Shane that's one of the things that will probably have to come, you know, before we go out of the bonds really get some type of agreement or something out there for the public understands the yes, that that parcel will be become based in wreck and it will be dedicated for a wreck center so they don't feel like they're going to vote for something and all of a sudden the parcel disappears and we're scrambling trying to figure out what we're going to do with that. So I think that'll be key to us giving voter confidence.

1073
02:36:28,640 --> 02:36:32,180
that that facility and that location will move forward. So I'll be looking for

1074
02:36:32,180 --> 02:36:36,340
you for help on that in the next in the coming weeks. Next slide please.

1075
02:36:38,700 --> 02:36:40,240
So trust

1076
02:36:40,240 --> 02:36:45,520
and costs were making that came up basically within the 2023 baseline 30% of

1077
02:36:45,520 --> 02:36:49,900
our supporters and 24 and a half percent of the movable middle all really said

1078
02:36:49,900 --> 02:36:54,540
that we do well. Initial support for a bond was about 48.7 which was slightly

1079
02:36:54,540 --> 02:36:59,900
below the passage threshold. So, you know, in looking at where we were two or three years ago,

1080
02:37:00,420 --> 02:37:06,060
you know, we know we have some gaps to overcome. And I think by having that multi-use programming

1081
02:37:06,620 --> 02:37:11,120
and being able to program some of those activities that the special interests, the climbers,

1082
02:37:11,380 --> 02:37:14,440
or some of the pickleball people, other things we recognize, they recognize that, hey,

1083
02:37:14,840 --> 02:37:20,080
we have to invest in this facility and there will be something for me there. If not right away,

1084
02:37:20,080 --> 02:37:23,920
say, at least in additional phases, we will have something that will better represent

1085
02:37:23,920 --> 02:37:27,300
the community as a whole and all of our recreation and fitness interests.

1086
02:37:28,680 --> 02:37:35,160
On the trust gap, 57 and a half, 57 people say the district performs well, but only 23.8

1087
02:37:35,160 --> 02:37:40,800
percent, which, you know, having been here for, you know, eight months now, I don't see

1088
02:37:40,800 --> 02:37:41,140
anything.

1089
02:37:41,300 --> 02:37:45,740
I mean, we just, we're going to be presenting our audit next week to our board.

1090
02:37:46,060 --> 02:37:47,160
We have a clean audit.

1091
02:37:47,520 --> 02:37:49,200
So we didn't have any incoming back from the others.

1092
02:37:49,200 --> 02:37:53,060
we have good internal control practices. I think a lot of it's just public perception,

1093
02:37:53,520 --> 02:37:57,280
and a lot of it's just coming from either the information isn't getting out there appropriately

1094
02:37:57,280 --> 02:38:02,460
or we're not representing it, so we'll be making a better effort, particularly this coming year

1095
02:38:02,460 --> 02:38:06,500
as we come to you with our budget. I'm really letting people know where we're budgeting, how we're

1096
02:38:06,500 --> 02:38:10,500
spending the money, where it's coming from, and where it's going, and being more transparent.

1097
02:38:10,800 --> 02:38:14,940
Not that they weren't in the past, but I think there's probably just a method of communication

1098
02:38:16,240 --> 02:38:21,880
So we'll look at increasing that so that our residents understand that we are spending the tax dollars wisely.

1099
02:38:22,340 --> 02:38:26,620
We are looking for other funding as an example of that with the wheel sports.

1100
02:38:27,140 --> 02:38:28,920
The wheels park at trailside.

1101
02:38:29,020 --> 02:38:35,860
We applied for and received a $500,000 grant, which is going to offset the tax portion of our capital improvement fund for that.

1102
02:38:35,880 --> 02:38:40,100
So we are out there seeking additional funds, which I think is goes back to our stewardship work,

1103
02:38:40,100 --> 02:38:43,840
taking it very seriously, if we can spend a different source of money other than tax

1104
02:38:43,840 --> 02:38:46,860
fees, we absolutely will, and we'll continue that communication.

1105
02:38:49,540 --> 02:38:56,080
And the bottom line is, is that really, it's behavioral proof that is going to demonstrate

1106
02:38:56,080 --> 02:38:56,500
a lot of this.

1107
02:38:56,600 --> 02:39:00,160
And as I've mentioned in previous meetings, we're in the process of, you know, bringing

1108
02:39:00,160 --> 02:39:05,560
on new accounting software, asset management software, I am, we're going to complete our impact

1109
02:39:05,560 --> 02:39:12,440
facility plan, impact the facility plan and a new IFA, we're also in the process of we've hired a third-party

1110
02:39:12,440 --> 02:39:17,860
auditor to really look at our fee structure. So we'll be coming back now to the public also before

1111
02:39:17,860 --> 02:39:22,880
this next budget cycle with a new fee structure, which will be very clear about what a resident pays

1112
02:39:22,880 --> 02:39:28,280
versus what a non-resident pays. And we all heard that back in November and December at our truth

1113
02:39:28,280 --> 02:39:32,800
and taxation hearings, there really was some concern from a resident. So what are the non-residents paying?

1114
02:39:32,800 --> 02:39:36,640
And we'll make that much more clear, and our fee structure is going to become much more simple.

1115
02:39:37,080 --> 02:39:41,000
And I think what's also going to help with this is that a lot of the questions I had on our fees,

1116
02:39:41,340 --> 02:39:43,960
where a lot of people were asking, well, if I pay for the field now,

1117
02:39:44,000 --> 02:39:45,600
so I'm going to be able to give it into the aquatic center.

1118
02:39:46,100 --> 02:39:50,400
And that's basically a family member or resident of Basin.

1119
02:39:50,800 --> 02:39:53,660
When they buy their membership, they're going to be able to use either of the three facilities,

1120
02:39:53,660 --> 02:39:55,420
and they'll just be able to go back and forth.

1121
02:39:55,420 --> 02:39:57,960
it's not a matter of while you're a member over here.

1122
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:29,400
But not over here. So we're going to try and simplify our fees as well to make it easier. And that also goes along with our programming fees, too, to really provide some definition to what those are. And I think that'll go a long way to showing a residence that we are, you know, charging them appropriately. But the non-residents that are coming in, they're going to be charged completely different rate. And it'll be visible and viable and really drive home the point that non-residents are paying more than what residents are paying, which then those fees come right back into the programs.

1123
02:40:29,400 --> 02:40:32,180
and help support the facilities.

1124
02:40:35,540 --> 02:40:40,700
And then the other thing being is that what we heard is we're talking about the existing bonds that we have.

1125
02:40:41,180 --> 02:40:42,960
So I've already had conversations with Zion's.

1126
02:40:43,360 --> 02:40:47,280
We're going to, with this new bond, we're going to restructure our current bond debt.

1127
02:40:47,660 --> 02:40:53,580
So that the total impact would not be a cumulative impact of a new bond going on top of the existing bonds that we have.

1128
02:40:53,580 --> 02:41:00,800
We work with Zion such that we basically would pay off the current bonds sooner and that so instead of stacking a new bond on top of this

1129
02:41:00,800 --> 02:41:03,800
We would take a smaller increase pay off the old bonds

1130
02:41:03,800 --> 02:41:08,140
Get clear them and then begin paying on the new one once the older ones are cleared

1131
02:41:08,140 --> 02:41:15,560
So we'll have a clear path forward for voters before November or showing you know how we're going to clear the debt of the existing bonds and move forward with that

1132
02:41:15,560 --> 02:41:17,260
With a minimal increase

1133
02:41:17,680 --> 02:41:23,440
There will be an increase, but it would not be a duplicative or you know doubling of what they're paying on the property taxes for bonds

1134
02:41:23,440 --> 02:41:26,160
Next slide, please.

1135
02:41:28,680 --> 02:41:33,360
So through this month, we're going to continue to look at the, our fee schedule, we're looking

1136
02:41:33,360 --> 02:41:37,680
to bond structuring, working on setting and meeting with Zion's next week, our impact

1137
02:41:37,680 --> 02:41:38,320
fee planning.

1138
02:41:38,500 --> 02:41:42,640
As I said, we'll be on the agenda next month for impact fees, we'll show the growth that's

1139
02:41:42,640 --> 02:41:49,120
coming into basin, and I think that's important for us to communicate to voters, is regardless

1140
02:41:49,120 --> 02:41:51,640
Well, as of where someone stands on growth

1141
02:41:51,640 --> 02:41:55,380
or development within some account here within Basin,

1142
02:41:55,580 --> 02:41:56,200
it is happening.

1143
02:41:56,520 --> 02:41:58,000
There are developments that are out there.

1144
02:41:58,260 --> 02:41:59,760
So of the known developments,

1145
02:41:59,760 --> 02:42:01,980
we're gonna have over 4,600 demand units

1146
02:42:01,980 --> 02:42:03,460
coming in in the next 10 years.

1147
02:42:04,060 --> 02:42:06,660
And a good chunk of those, a third to a half of those

1148
02:42:06,660 --> 02:42:08,180
will be within the next three to four years.

1149
02:42:08,820 --> 02:42:10,720
So over the, you know, with the field house

1150
02:42:10,720 --> 02:42:12,520
being a capacity starting next year,

1151
02:42:12,880 --> 02:42:14,740
we're gonna start to see a large amount of growth

1152
02:42:14,740 --> 02:42:17,780
coming into Basin very soon.

1153
02:42:17,780 --> 02:42:19,460
And we need to be able to account for that.

1154
02:42:19,840 --> 02:42:24,720
Part of the messaging is going to be with redoing and updating our impact fee facility plan.

1155
02:42:24,900 --> 02:42:28,280
The new development they will be paying their fair share for things.

1156
02:42:28,280 --> 02:42:32,920
We can use impact fees for some of these other phase two and other amenities that go within the district.

1157
02:42:33,500 --> 02:42:37,320
So the new development is going to be paying their fair share along with the taxes that go with that.

1158
02:42:37,860 --> 02:42:43,340
And I think part of the message is too is in looking at what folks would see as an increase to their property tax because of a new bond.

1159
02:42:44,000 --> 02:42:47,900
Once these new properties start coming online, they're shared that's going to start to become

1160
02:42:47,900 --> 02:42:52,040
deluded and they'll actually see that go down because there's now more property taxes and new

1161
02:42:52,040 --> 02:42:56,720
development that's paying into the pool that's paying off the bond. So hopefully we can message it

1162
02:42:56,720 --> 02:43:01,220
that as well as that yes, the first initial year price tag might be a little higher but you're going

1163
02:43:01,220 --> 02:43:08,480
to start to see it slowly come down. Hopefully. In July, we're going to have some architectural concepts.

1164
02:43:08,940 --> 02:43:12,500
So absent building renderings, I'll be able to share with you. We'll know what our bond cost is

1165
02:43:12,500 --> 02:43:17,140
going to be, I'll be able to present that to you. And then we also on July 8th plan on hosting a

1166
02:43:17,140 --> 02:43:22,600
second round of public sessions to bring the new programmatic bubble diagrams to show people

1167
02:43:22,600 --> 02:43:26,420
that hey, we listen to you. Here's how we're thinking about the facilities now. It's not quite a floor

1168
02:43:26,420 --> 02:43:30,480
plan, but it at least shows what the programming is. We'll have some orders to renderings of what the

1169
02:43:30,480 --> 02:43:34,200
buildings are going to look like. And we'll really be able to talk to the public about, you know,

1170
02:43:34,320 --> 02:43:39,680
what the bond cost is going to be. And what I'm hoping to do is really get folks to focus, not so much

1171
02:43:39,680 --> 02:43:44,520
focus on the big picture, what the bond costs because it's not what the individual is

1172
02:43:44,520 --> 02:43:44,840
going to be paying.

1173
02:43:44,980 --> 02:43:48,980
It really addressed the individual homeowner, the individual property, and what their share

1174
02:43:48,980 --> 02:43:49,680
of this is.

1175
02:43:50,220 --> 02:43:54,920
And it's really compared to when we did our survey, we asked them about whether they would

1176
02:43:54,920 --> 02:44:01,580
see, you know, a $75 to $150 a year increase as reasonable or $150 to $202 to $300.

1177
02:44:01,940 --> 02:44:05,740
There were quite a few respondents that would say that there was a value if we could do both

1178
02:44:05,740 --> 02:44:11,420
these facilities there's value in that higher range and if we can package it correctly in the form

1179
02:44:11,420 --> 02:44:16,900
our voters effectively on what we're going to be doing at the bond what we are going to build what

1180
02:44:16,900 --> 02:44:21,680
we're not going to build and I think we heard that a lot about previous bond efforts is that you

1181
02:44:21,680 --> 02:44:25,840
know people were surprised that they said hey we thought you were going to do xyz with this bond

1182
02:44:25,840 --> 02:44:31,200
and you didn't so we need to make sure what this bond will do and also be very explicit about what it

1183
02:44:31,200 --> 02:44:35,620
will not do and really we're looking at the two facilities we'll have a plan for additional

1184
02:44:35,620 --> 02:44:40,580
facilities and grounds and other things later on. We just need to get these anchor facilities built.

1185
02:44:42,080 --> 02:44:46,020
And then once we get to that point, we Dave's advised us that probably by the end of July,

1186
02:44:46,020 --> 02:44:51,180
we should have our bond package ready for you guys to review, to potentially vote on to put

1187
02:44:51,180 --> 02:44:56,140
on the ballot sometime late July, early August. So I will be back here in a couple weeks and the

1188
02:44:56,140 --> 02:44:57,900
15th with our updates on our costs.

1189
02:44:58,220 --> 02:44:59,860
I'll have some rendering to show with you.

1190
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:14,920
And probably share some additional public input based on where we went from our public surveys in May. Listening to the public, redesigning and reconfiguring the program to meet those needs and those demands and see what the public reaction is. And I'll bring that back to you next month.

1191
02:45:31,290 --> 02:45:45,630
Questions. Are you ready for some questions? Oh, absolutely. I'm sorry. Okay. All right, Mr. Chair. Please. So, um, the bottom of your penultimate slide, you had a question.

1192
02:45:45,630 --> 02:45:51,750
for the county, whether we like the two-site strategy before you start spending design dollars.

1193
02:45:53,190 --> 02:46:01,750
And you've also outlined in your time, and whether we like the timeline, in your timeline,

1194
02:46:02,130 --> 02:46:12,930
you, I think, are rightfully sensitive about the public sensitivity to additional taxation,

1195
02:46:12,930 --> 02:46:16,470
even if self-imposed, property taxation.

1196
02:46:18,090 --> 02:46:24,930
And so to me it's a little hard to give a lot of concrete feedback.

1197
02:46:26,650 --> 02:46:28,990
Would you be building the two?

1198
02:46:29,690 --> 02:46:34,230
Would you be issuing a bond in the near future to build both facilities?

1199
02:46:35,110 --> 02:46:37,770
Yes, I think in particularly in talking with Zion,

1200
02:46:37,770 --> 02:46:44,170
They're looking at where we are with our bond rating and what the current interest rate is for municipal bonds for a general obligation.

1201
02:46:44,450 --> 02:46:46,130
What did they get? What rate did they get?

1202
02:46:46,150 --> 02:46:53,290
I think we're at 3%, between 3 and 4%. So we have a very good bond rating. We're at the one AA rating yet.

1203
02:46:53,410 --> 02:46:58,670
We share the same rating as the county. So thank you for having a good Moody's credit score.

1204
02:46:59,370 --> 02:47:04,410
But I think also in looking at this is that in looking at what the public salmon has been,

1205
02:47:04,410 --> 02:47:07,170
And then, hey, we've been talking about a lot of these things for 10 years.

1206
02:47:07,790 --> 02:47:09,550
And that, you know, there really hasn't been much action.

1207
02:47:10,410 --> 02:47:13,830
And then there's also, quite frankly, the thing is that you don't know what the future

1208
02:47:13,830 --> 02:47:14,330
is going to hold.

1209
02:47:14,910 --> 02:47:17,950
We could roll the dice and say, hey, we could come out for another bond in five years for

1210
02:47:17,950 --> 02:47:18,730
the second facility.

1211
02:47:19,490 --> 02:47:20,990
But there is a need now.

1212
02:47:21,730 --> 02:47:24,110
There is, we have a very good credit.

1213
02:47:24,250 --> 02:47:26,150
We have the opportunity now.

1214
02:47:26,390 --> 02:47:30,810
And I think that some of the sentiment we got from the residents, we met them at the field

1215
02:47:30,810 --> 02:47:34,630
of house, it's like either just do this, do it right, or don't do it at all.

1216
02:47:35,170 --> 02:47:40,230
And most of them are not necessarily go big or go home, but do it right and do it now.

1217
02:47:40,690 --> 02:47:44,770
And this is really going to set basin up really for the next 30 years and beyond, because

1218
02:47:44,770 --> 02:47:49,470
in looking at what the growth is coming with these two facilities, we'll be able to maintain

1219
02:47:49,470 --> 02:47:54,750
the growth, we'll be able to expand our offerings with new programming, but then also expand the

1220
02:47:54,750 --> 02:47:58,850
current offerings that they have that the residents are feeling the pressure on, the health

1221
02:47:58,850 --> 02:48:06,350
of wellness and fitness. You're not at a point where you are spit-balling what the range

1222
02:48:06,350 --> 02:48:11,090
of the bond offering might be. I have an idea but I'm not quite ready to share it yet.

1223
02:48:11,230 --> 02:48:15,430
We have cost estimators that are currently working on it based on the current programmatic

1224
02:48:15,430 --> 02:48:20,850
square feet. I should have that by this week and then so come July 8th. I'll be able to share it

1225
02:48:20,850 --> 02:48:24,570
not only with our voters but they want to come back in the 15th. They'll be able to share that with

1226
02:48:24,570 --> 02:48:30,250
you and so we're having a professional third party estimator give us what today's construction

1227
02:48:30,250 --> 02:48:36,290
costs would be and as you're well aware construction costs never go down so we run the risk that if

1228
02:48:36,290 --> 02:48:41,390
we choose to separate these two into two separate programs and maybe you want a bond you know let's

1229
02:48:41,390 --> 02:48:46,390
just say hypothetically that it would be a 30 or 40 man dollar bond for the east canyon client

1230
02:48:46,390 --> 02:48:51,530
dolly property we delayed five years that could be a 69 dollar project very easily just because of

1231
02:48:51,530 --> 02:48:57,630
cost. Speaking of the latter, when you refer to ease can and you're really talking

1232
02:48:57,630 --> 02:49:04,590
client-dollar. Correct. And in your slide, it said 40,000 feet. But then you

1233
02:49:04,590 --> 02:49:12,170
mentioned 42,000 feet as being inadequate. And then the slide said 60,000 feet.

1234
02:49:12,170 --> 02:49:18,890
But you said that 64,000 feet was needed and that there may not be room enough to

1235
02:49:18,890 --> 02:49:23,090
do that and you might face it. Could you explain what you meant by all of that?

1236
02:49:23,170 --> 02:49:28,950
And maybe I heard wrong. So the program, the diagram, the diagram bubbles that we showed to

1237
02:49:28,950 --> 02:49:34,550
our residents in May showed square footage and the total best square footage based on a footprint

1238
02:49:34,550 --> 02:49:40,130
was 42,000 square feet. That's where they came back and they said that's too small. They also said

1239
02:49:40,130 --> 02:49:44,670
we'd prefer you putting the aquatics at Silver Creek and we would like to see some courts at the

1240
02:49:44,670 --> 02:49:49,330
So we have now changed our program analysis with our architects.

1241
02:49:49,690 --> 02:49:53,710
We have three courts in at that facility at Klein Dolly,

1242
02:49:53,810 --> 02:49:55,710
which also includes now a climbing facility,

1243
02:49:55,710 --> 02:49:59,230
which is a little bit bigger than we originally planned at the Silver Creek Village.

1244
02:49:59,230 --> 02:49:59,850
So.

1245
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:29,980
The new square footage for that facility is the 62,000. So we've added about 20,000 square foot of programming at the clientele. It will fit on that side. It will fit on that side. You'd built that as a campaign not in phases. Correct. So the idea, and we know that there are some site amenities that we wanted to put there. I've already had conversations with Tony. It doesn't make sense for us to put a lot of the site amenities in place because he's going to be out there building when that, if that project goes forward. So our main focus is going to be getting the building built and getting it

1246
02:50:29,980 --> 02:50:34,700
open, and then I can use other funds whether it be impact fees, grants, or other things

1247
02:50:34,700 --> 02:50:37,480
that then build out the additional site and menus outside the building.

1248
02:50:38,060 --> 02:50:44,520
So speaking of impact fees, you mentioned that you want to do a capital facilities plan

1249
02:50:44,520 --> 02:50:53,440
and then a new impact fee study and you have mentioned some 4,600 new on the books residences.

1250
02:50:53,440 --> 02:50:55,160
is how do you come up with that number?

1251
02:50:55,440 --> 02:50:59,720
And would if you hadn't a revised impact fee,

1252
02:51:00,020 --> 02:51:02,880
do you know by what amount that would reduce,

1253
02:51:03,440 --> 02:51:05,660
the amount you'd need dispensed of money?

1254
02:51:08,680 --> 02:51:11,200
The demand units were total by Zion.

1255
02:51:11,420 --> 02:51:15,680
So Eric, with Zion's and I met with Peter.

1256
02:51:16,180 --> 02:51:18,160
And we went through everything that's currently

1257
02:51:18,160 --> 02:51:20,040
on the books with county planning.

1258
02:51:20,480 --> 02:51:21,540
And that includes the Dakota PC.

1259
02:51:21,680 --> 02:51:22,420
Peter is Peter Barnes.

1260
02:51:22,820 --> 02:51:22,960
Correct.

1261
02:51:22,960 --> 02:51:29,160
So Dakota Pacific, this is Tony's development, the clone specific, Klein Dolly, we know we have the developments going in it.

1262
02:51:29,220 --> 02:51:32,700
What was the teninger balls, the elephant, whatever you want to call them, the balls that are there.

1263
02:51:33,060 --> 02:51:37,260
There are several developments that are going in or thought of in and around the home depot area.

1264
02:51:37,460 --> 02:51:43,840
So I'm looking at everything that basically Peter knew about, that could potentially come in, that either was going and

1265
02:51:43,840 --> 02:51:48,220
going through the perming and planning phase, or things that people have kind of talked about.

1266
02:51:48,220 --> 02:51:53,000
What we came up with is in looking at those, those are 4,600 demand units that are coming

1267
02:51:53,000 --> 02:51:54,740
from those developments alone.

1268
02:51:55,260 --> 02:52:04,260
How would you, and as to if you had a revised impact fee, would that have a big bearing

1269
02:52:04,260 --> 02:52:10,620
in reducing the amount you need to bond for, or would it not be that material?

1270
02:52:11,020 --> 02:52:13,480
Well, the problem is with impact fees, those are collected over time.

1271
02:52:13,780 --> 02:52:13,960
Right.

1272
02:52:13,960 --> 02:52:17,960
So I would not and they are time limited.

1273
02:52:18,180 --> 02:52:20,680
I have to spend an impact fee within six years of collecting it.

1274
02:52:20,800 --> 02:52:24,760
So I wouldn't be able to save up enough of the impact fees that cover the cost of the facility.

1275
02:52:25,320 --> 02:52:29,740
Within the impact fee program itself, those new developments are given a credit.

1276
02:52:29,880 --> 02:52:33,420
So because of the bond debt that we have, they are given a credit.

1277
02:52:33,460 --> 02:52:41,960
So they're given a discount on their impact fees because as soon as they convert from being a proposed building to then going into paying the tax base,

1278
02:52:41,960 --> 02:52:48,320
become an actual developed area that make that conversion so our impact fee plan does give the

1279
02:52:48,320 --> 02:52:53,820
developers a credit for the bond debt on their impact fees. There will be an increase in our

1280
02:52:53,820 --> 02:52:59,140
impact fees. Just in looking at the demand load, everything that we have across our system has had

1281
02:52:59,140 --> 02:53:03,820
a service level decrease because of the growth that we've seen already plus the growth that we have

1282
02:53:03,820 --> 02:53:08,720
coming over the next 10 years. How much is your current residential impact fee roughly?

1283
02:53:08,720 --> 02:53:17,840
I want to say it's like 20 it's mid 2000 like 2500 to 3000 and it'll probably be going up to just over 3000 okay

1284
02:53:17,840 --> 02:53:27,860
So it's not a huge show. We're not doubling our fees. So years ago when we the county were trying to get voter approval for some transportation sales taxes

1285
02:53:28,660 --> 02:53:30,540
We tried to approach it

1286
02:53:31,460 --> 02:53:34,620
judiciously with the public in trying to make our case

1287
02:53:35,340 --> 02:53:38,100
making sure that we would have success

1288
02:53:39,060 --> 02:53:44,280
and wondering how you intend, you've had an open house,

1289
02:53:44,280 --> 02:53:48,100
but how would you intend to bring the public

1290
02:53:48,100 --> 02:53:49,180
more into the fold?

1291
02:53:49,720 --> 02:53:53,840
I saw in your slide that you intend to send out

1292
02:53:53,840 --> 02:53:56,000
like financial statements or something.

1293
02:53:56,200 --> 02:53:58,800
So people, you may be more transparent with where

1294
02:53:58,800 --> 02:54:00,560
the money's going and how you're doing,

1295
02:54:00,560 --> 02:54:03,280
but can you put more color to that?

1296
02:54:03,860 --> 02:54:04,520
How you would...

1297
02:54:05,200 --> 02:54:12,860
I think some of it is really be careful how we talk about this, but I know that I live

1298
02:54:12,860 --> 02:54:13,300
in the basement.

1299
02:54:13,560 --> 02:54:14,100
I'm a homeowner.

1300
02:54:14,400 --> 02:54:15,420
I know what I pay for taxes.

1301
02:54:16,080 --> 02:54:17,580
I know what I pay for federal taxes.

1302
02:54:17,880 --> 02:54:20,900
And I know that when I pay my property tax, the federal government doesn't take as much

1303
02:54:20,900 --> 02:54:21,980
as my personal income tax.

1304
02:54:22,220 --> 02:54:25,860
So I think it's also about really telling folks, it's not a new tax.

1305
02:54:25,980 --> 02:54:28,760
We're just helping you redistribute your taxes that you already pay.

1306
02:54:28,980 --> 02:54:32,260
So you'd end up being paying less of the federal government on your personal income tax,

1307
02:54:32,260 --> 02:54:38,600
property tax, and then talking with signs and others and other financial advisors, despite

1308
02:54:38,600 --> 02:54:43,820
the perception, we really do have a very low tax rate here in Summit County, and I'm

1309
02:54:43,820 --> 02:54:50,440
not trying to speak to any one individual's specific situation, but I think the other

1310
02:54:50,440 --> 02:54:54,420
part of this is that in a realizing that when people pay their taxes, there's a lot of frustration

1311
02:54:54,420 --> 02:54:57,640
because their taxes just go wherever they don't know what they're going to.

1312
02:54:57,940 --> 02:54:59,960
I think one of the things we can say is that this-

1313
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:09,780
This tax or the bond would absolutely go to something that not only would they be able to see, they'd be able to touch it, to feel it, use it, and understand it, and really have a benefit from it for a long period of time.

1314
02:55:11,940 --> 02:55:29,820
We do have a low tax rate, but we also have high assess value, so the total bill being paid is a lot of dollars, and would maybe spoiled it by not really carrying what the tax rate is. If you would have compared the other 28 counties,

1315
02:55:29,820 --> 02:55:36,440
you'd see we're probably in the bottom five for tax rate, but that's a hard

1316
02:55:36,440 --> 02:55:41,100
argument to make, because especially when they're used to paying whatever amount

1317
02:55:41,100 --> 02:55:45,920
now, and there's been all these additive taxes, but you mentioned in your

1318
02:55:45,920 --> 02:55:52,880
presentation about there, you met with ions and you have some bonds that are

1319
02:55:52,880 --> 02:55:58,320
rolling off, could you, or that where you've got, you know, it's not all new, there's

1320
02:55:58,320 --> 02:56:01,180
that would be retired, could you explain that a little more carefully?

1321
02:56:03,020 --> 02:56:07,000
I will be more prepared to present that to you in July because I've started the conversation.

1322
02:56:07,440 --> 02:56:11,900
You know, we've had the preliminary conversation because it really depends on what the amount of the bond we're going to go for.

1323
02:56:12,420 --> 02:56:15,800
And I actually have a meeting set up with Brian from Zion's next week.

1324
02:56:15,980 --> 02:56:22,020
So that's one of the things I want to talk to him about because we need to get that messaging clear so that I can explain it to our residents and our voters.

1325
02:56:22,020 --> 02:56:28,100
What that means when we basically refinance or reconfigure our current bond debt and how that's going to work.

1326
02:56:28,100 --> 02:56:46,960
So I'm not a financial guru. He's mentioned to it in passing and he's given me some preliminary numbers that basically show that say we would go for a bond that would cost right now without restructuring would be in a $200 a year additional tax that we if we restructural current bond that we would actually bring that down to like 150 to 100.

1327
02:56:46,960 --> 02:56:54,740
So it's it's it's not that you have that that's retiring, but you were in a call period where you could

1328
02:56:55,360 --> 02:57:03,280
be to extend extend maturities out. You're not you're not going to get a lower right probably than what you have now, but you might be able to

1329
02:57:03,880 --> 02:57:07,020
extend current debt out such that the annual

1330
02:57:07,020 --> 02:57:15,640
No, I believe the idea basically what we end up doing is with the addition new tax we would delay paying on the new bond for several years and we would take that additional money

1331
02:57:15,640 --> 02:57:19,620
we'd pay off the old bonds quicker. So we're just going to be paying on the principal

1332
02:57:19,620 --> 02:57:24,720
a lot quicker and we would get them cleared within three to four years. Okay. Thank you. Those are all

1333
02:57:24,720 --> 02:57:33,470
my questions. I don't really have any questions today because I know we'll be seeing you again soon.

1334
02:57:34,070 --> 02:57:41,530
But I really appreciate this information found it very useful. I like all the data to support what

1335
02:57:41,530 --> 02:57:46,870
you're trying to do to move forward. So thank you for doing that. And that's all I have to say for

1336
02:57:46,870 --> 02:57:53,370
today. Thanks. Thank you. Thank you. I know we're running a little bit behind you, so I'll keep

1337
02:57:53,370 --> 02:58:01,130
us brief, but I'll echo what Tanya said. I really appreciate the presentation tonight. I did want

1338
02:58:01,130 --> 02:58:09,110
to say I saw several of your employees last weekend at the trails Trash and Tune and even and just

1339
02:58:09,110 --> 02:58:15,650
really appreciate the work and we talked a lot about this actually. And so this is really exciting.

1340
02:58:15,650 --> 02:58:18,410
I think I do, I like the two-building approach.

1341
02:58:18,910 --> 02:58:20,770
I think it makes a lot of sense.

1342
02:58:20,810 --> 02:58:25,730
I think a rec pool in this overcreek area is really exciting

1343
02:58:25,730 --> 02:58:29,650
to, you know, especially the affordable housing

1344
02:58:29,650 --> 02:58:33,210
and families that I think can really utilize that out there.

1345
02:58:33,370 --> 02:58:36,190
I think in terms of traffic and kind of, you know,

1346
02:58:36,330 --> 02:58:38,930
spreading it out, I think it makes a lot of sense.

1347
02:58:39,650 --> 02:58:44,670
I liked the leading with the annual household cost.

1348
02:58:44,670 --> 02:58:47,590
I think that that makes a lot of sense and is helpful for people.

1349
02:58:47,710 --> 02:58:58,370
I think when we see these big bond numbers, it can be, you know, it can sound like a lot more than, you know, when it's actually how much are we really paying additionally each year?

1350
02:58:59,510 --> 02:59:06,450
And so, and it sounds like a majority of people do support, you know, around the 70 year.

1351
02:59:07,670 --> 02:59:12,290
So I'm interested to learn more in July when that happens.

1352
02:59:12,890 --> 02:59:14,990
I appreciate the simplified fee.

1353
02:59:15,110 --> 02:59:17,730
That was actually my question was if you were going to have different

1354
02:59:18,330 --> 02:59:20,050
memberships for the different buildings.

1355
02:59:20,050 --> 02:59:22,910
And I think that's a really smart way to do it.

1356
02:59:23,690 --> 02:59:26,790
So thank you for that.

1357
02:59:27,150 --> 02:59:32,070
I was curious about that you said you won't reach capacity until next year.

1358
02:59:32,150 --> 02:59:35,750
But that's already seems to be the perception that it's already

1359
02:59:36,470 --> 02:59:41,370
overcrowded or is it, but we're not actually at capacity yet?

1360
02:59:41,870 --> 02:59:42,590
We are.

1361
02:59:42,730 --> 02:59:46,650
I mean, on paper, you know, if you're, basically if you're running the numbers it's

1362
02:59:46,650 --> 02:59:51,210
signed as it basically says, for X amount of units of residents, we're supposed to provide

1363
02:59:51,210 --> 02:59:58,730
X square feet of recreation that, you know, on paper if you do the math for the number

1364
02:59:58,730 --> 02:59:59,810
for a reasonable number of demand.

1365
03:00:00,960 --> 03:00:27,900
The next year will be out, but in reality, even though we have fewer, we may have the fewer demand units that aren't filled right now, people are coming. And so we do have people that are saying, hey, I'm avoiding the field house because it's crowded. I can't get in the time when I want to, or when I want to go. Granted, you can go to the field house a lot of time during any part of the day, and it wouldn't be as crowded. But, you know, a lot of us have jobs. And so it's, you know, going at 11 o'clock in the morning, you can't do, and that's one of our least busiest.

1366
03:00:27,900 --> 03:00:33,440
But by having additional facilities, that's what I am stressing to a lot of them.

1367
03:00:33,960 --> 03:00:37,960
Like with our senior fit classes, there's a lot of demand there.

1368
03:00:38,160 --> 03:00:40,740
We have to cap it at 50 participants and there's a wait list.

1369
03:00:41,280 --> 03:00:45,840
But by having, you know, and that's one of the things, if I had additional facilities somewhere, I could run two of those classes

1370
03:00:45,840 --> 03:00:47,800
and you wouldn't have to be wait listed.

1371
03:00:48,220 --> 03:00:50,700
And that's really what it comes down to looking at the capacity.

1372
03:00:50,920 --> 03:00:54,480
So from a capacity of use, we're over capacity right now.

1373
03:00:54,480 --> 03:00:59,560
If you're looking at capacity of numbers of just basic households to square footage of

1374
03:00:59,560 --> 03:01:01,680
wreck facility, we'll hit that number next year.

1375
03:01:02,040 --> 03:01:07,420
Got to. Okay. Well, thank you again. It's been a busy eight months. It sounds like.

1376
03:01:08,100 --> 03:01:16,740
So I really appreciate this and your staff to David who I talked to last week. I used to babysit

1377
03:01:16,740 --> 03:01:24,160
when he was a newborn actually. So I just, yeah, much gratitude to you and this last eight

1378
03:01:24,160 --> 03:01:26,960
and look forward to learning more in July.

1379
03:01:27,800 --> 03:01:28,420
Thank you.

1380
03:01:28,420 --> 03:01:31,280
Hi, Brian. He is Council Member Hart online.

1381
03:01:31,920 --> 03:01:33,300
One moment, let me check.

1382
03:01:35,310 --> 03:01:36,410
No, he is not.

1383
03:01:37,210 --> 03:01:37,470
Okay.

1384
03:01:38,410 --> 03:01:40,890
Bob, I've got to say it's a great presentation.

1385
03:01:41,130 --> 03:01:46,530
Listening to you talk about it reminds me of the first interview that we had

1386
03:01:46,530 --> 03:01:48,490
when you were applied for the job.

1387
03:01:48,930 --> 03:01:53,650
And it's knowing what was coming in terms of facilities

1388
03:01:53,650 --> 03:01:59,730
facilities and seeing your background in logistics and facilities, this is kind of what I hope

1389
03:01:59,730 --> 03:02:08,530
from my seat. So thanks for the work that you've done. You read the board as well. I agree

1390
03:02:08,530 --> 03:02:13,670
to facilities that want to might as well bite the bullet if you're going to do it. I'm getting

1391
03:02:13,670 --> 03:02:21,590
back to one of the questions that Chris asked. I think whenever we go for this kind of bonding,

1392
03:02:21,590 --> 03:02:27,690
It's really important to come up with a message that explains what you want to do, what

1393
03:02:27,690 --> 03:02:33,370
you want to do it, which you've already started crafting, and to explain the financial

1394
03:02:33,370 --> 03:02:39,910
part of it clearly so that people understand it, and so it doesn't create more angst than

1395
03:02:39,910 --> 03:02:44,430
it answers, and then to start doing the outreach.

1396
03:02:44,430 --> 03:02:51,930
and I think by seeing the information and that information approach, you know, when we did

1397
03:02:51,930 --> 03:02:58,170
out of the transportation sales tax, we went to the chamber. We went so that we had all the

1398
03:02:58,170 --> 03:03:05,270
businesses aware of it. You might want to consider going to each of ways, right? Just try and get to

1399
03:03:05,270 --> 03:03:12,490
people where they live, where they can sit and have, not just open houses, because those seem to be

1400
03:03:12,490 --> 03:03:18,970
kind of catches catch can and you know true believers will show up and others may not

1401
03:03:18,970 --> 03:03:24,750
and you may not be speaking to the people that you really need to convince as much as people

1402
03:03:24,750 --> 03:03:30,590
there on board with anything you would propose. And I think there's a lot of positive messaging here.

1403
03:03:30,810 --> 03:03:36,990
Facility life, facilities like this are part of the health wellness of the community. It's not just

1404
03:03:37,830 --> 03:03:40,450
or a recreation and amenity to go have fun.

1405
03:03:40,730 --> 03:03:46,090
It's a means for seniors to stay in shape and to stay healthy

1406
03:03:46,090 --> 03:03:48,510
and be able to get a decent workout in,

1407
03:03:49,050 --> 03:03:55,330
particularly in an environment where half the year we can't get out on trails,

1408
03:03:55,530 --> 03:03:59,950
we can't get out to do some of the other stuff that would help contribute to fitness.

1409
03:04:00,330 --> 03:04:02,990
So those indoor facilities might not be important.

1410
03:04:02,990 --> 03:04:11,270
And it may be that our community economics are such that this is a different entry point

1411
03:04:11,270 --> 03:04:13,830
for private facilities to do this.

1412
03:04:14,010 --> 03:04:20,990
One we think that, again, given what seems to be a desire for these kinds of fitness

1413
03:04:20,990 --> 03:04:26,150
facilities, we don't see a lot of private organizations stepping up to provide that.

1414
03:04:26,150 --> 03:04:34,010
And I suspect for land costs, plus the margins that those facilities operate under, it's

1415
03:04:34,010 --> 03:04:38,790
probably a tough bet for them to make a run of it in a place like this, unless your fees

1416
03:04:38,790 --> 03:04:44,450
are so high that it's really only catering to a group that can afford it, not everybody

1417
03:04:44,450 --> 03:04:51,490
and not across the board, so my advice is get the messaging down and start taking it out

1418
03:04:51,490 --> 03:04:52,010
to the people.

1419
03:04:52,010 --> 03:04:56,210
also is not a surprise one month before the election that there's a bond that's going

1420
03:04:56,210 --> 03:04:59,970
to land and people don't know what to do it July will be our kind of

1421
03:05:00,740 --> 03:05:29,240
So I mentioned July 8th. You know, we're have a couple events. We are already planning on basically what I'm, instead of Ted Talks, we're doing Ted Talks. We, you know, being based on, we know all the different activities are going on out there. We plan on going to these activities, events that private people are coming in hosting on our property. We know where our communities are. We've got our summer camps. We've got our summer soccer leagues. We plan on going to where the parents and our users are and presenting this information to them to the entire month of July. Thank you. Great presentation.

1422
03:05:31,760 --> 03:05:43,240
That's it. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, how to abuse stringers on gockers that came in. Who are they? It looks like some board members kind of.

1423
03:05:51,910 --> 03:05:57,430
Thank you. All right. Folks, moving on. Next up, let me see. I lost this.

1424
03:06:03,300 --> 03:06:06,640
Sorry. I'm computer illiterate right now.

1425
03:06:07,780 --> 03:06:18,460
We are going to revisit the restaurant tax denial for North Summit special, a recreation

1426
03:06:18,460 --> 03:06:24,260
special, service district we have got, Katie Mason, he, Katie, tells us what we're talking

1427
03:06:24,260 --> 03:06:24,680
about here.

1428
03:06:24,820 --> 03:06:29,700
There was an application for a grant and I think you have part of it, if not all of it, you

1429
03:06:29,700 --> 03:06:35,440
have all lighting and there was some notion that maybe the board was not struggled a bit

1430
03:06:35,440 --> 03:06:42,800
with whether that lighting plan was complete and complete enough to just fly awarding a grant

1431
03:06:42,800 --> 03:06:50,420
to it and ultimately decided not to. And I think Councilmember Hanson on behalf of her district,

1432
03:06:50,660 --> 03:06:58,880
which is where North Summit Basin and Northart Records was concerned that perhaps this grant request

1433
03:06:58,880 --> 03:07:03,960
looked a lot like the last one that we had last year that was granted and I think wanted to understand

1434
03:07:03,960 --> 03:07:07,220
and better the distinction that was made

1435
03:07:07,220 --> 03:07:10,080
and whether that distinction was the right one.

1436
03:07:10,400 --> 03:07:10,780
Is that good?

1437
03:07:11,640 --> 03:07:11,740
Okay.

1438
03:07:13,260 --> 03:07:15,360
I can go over a little bit

1439
03:07:15,360 --> 03:07:17,700
what the advisory board why they made,

1440
03:07:18,080 --> 03:07:19,520
you know, why they chose not to fund.

1441
03:07:20,240 --> 03:07:22,960
In the rationale that they had in the packet,

1442
03:07:23,940 --> 03:07:26,700
their wording is the advisory board was unable

1443
03:07:26,700 --> 03:07:28,780
to allocate the entire amount needed

1444
03:07:28,780 --> 03:07:29,880
to complete the project,

1445
03:07:30,320 --> 03:07:32,840
advises to reapply with additional sources

1446
03:07:32,840 --> 03:07:37,080
funding and intent to complete the entire project in a timely manner.

1447
03:07:38,040 --> 03:07:42,880
So a little bit of the issue here is they did receive funding last year for the project.

1448
03:07:43,580 --> 03:07:48,740
They weren't able to complete the project in the 18-month time period that they have.

1449
03:07:49,580 --> 03:07:54,280
And they reapplied just based on the application.

1450
03:07:55,080 --> 03:08:00,820
Some of the questions in here and how they grade and score the application.

1451
03:08:00,820 --> 03:08:22,120
One of the questions is if the applicant has other funding sources to help complete the project and they didn't have any other funding sources and so that really plays into their reasoning there of, you know, the entire project is going to cost $427,000.

1452
03:08:22,120 --> 03:08:25,580
They've received $100,000 from the county grants.

1453
03:08:26,300 --> 03:08:31,420
They still have $3,000, $27,000 that they have to raise to complete the project.

1454
03:08:32,460 --> 03:08:37,500
And so the advisory board just felt like without other sources of funding, they're not able

1455
03:08:37,500 --> 03:08:39,400
to complete it in the 18-month time period.

1456
03:08:39,900 --> 03:08:42,480
So it's just going to kind of drag on year after year.

1457
03:08:43,340 --> 03:08:49,360
So they really wanted to see North Summit find other sources of funding.

1458
03:08:50,600 --> 03:08:58,320
Is that 18 month time period a statutory requirement or is it part of our ordinance that created?

1459
03:08:59,060 --> 03:09:00,360
I mean, it's part of our ordinance.

1460
03:09:01,000 --> 03:09:06,560
So if they can't complete the entire project in 18 months, we shouldn't be giving them the money. Is that the idea?

1461
03:09:06,860 --> 03:09:10,300
Yeah, that's the policy at least.

1462
03:09:10,500 --> 03:09:15,860
Is that a prohibition or is it a shouldn't or do you know?

1463
03:09:15,860 --> 03:09:17,560
Yeah, let me check. Okay.

1464
03:09:20,180 --> 03:09:25,840
So we know if we can or not. Well, I do know historically,

1465
03:09:27,640 --> 03:09:33,140
because I was on restaurant tax, committee for many, many years, and that's been many years ago,

1466
03:09:33,160 --> 03:09:38,900
but I have to tell you, every time this comes up, there's so many of the same applications of when I was

1467
03:09:38,900 --> 03:09:47,100
on so many years ago, it's just like, okay, that's how that's getting paid for. But there's been many

1468
03:09:47,100 --> 03:09:53,780
Many times, I feel that projects have come forward and haven't had enough money to complete

1469
03:09:53,780 --> 03:09:56,580
that project, and they've been funded again.

1470
03:09:58,320 --> 03:09:59,480
And you're new.

1471
03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:11,100
So, you maybe don't recall those instances, but I can recall a Oakley ball field, for example,

1472
03:10:11,320 --> 03:10:16,160
funded numerous years to complete that project. That's just one off the top of my head.

1473
03:10:17,590 --> 03:10:25,940
Also, when I look at this scoring in this, sustainable tourism is worth 20 points.

1474
03:10:29,280 --> 03:10:29,980
Cultural

1475
03:10:29,980 --> 03:10:32,240
which would be additional funding, 15 points.

1476
03:10:33,380 --> 03:10:36,200
Increase 1% tax is 20 points.

1477
03:10:36,860 --> 03:10:40,100
New or developing, this would be developing, right?

1478
03:10:41,680 --> 03:10:46,020
In my opinion, 10 points and an asset, 25 points.

1479
03:10:47,280 --> 03:10:50,380
So this applicant application

1480
03:10:50,380 --> 03:10:52,000
should not have been scored of a zero.

1481
03:10:52,560 --> 03:10:55,700
So if you look at it just from a points system,

1482
03:10:56,720 --> 03:10:58,160
an asset's 25 points,

1483
03:10:58,160 --> 03:11:00,840
It's not should have given them something, in my opinion.

1484
03:11:01,020 --> 03:11:03,400
Now this is my opinion, and this is up for debate

1485
03:11:03,400 --> 03:11:05,020
with the rest of the council as well.

1486
03:11:05,860 --> 03:11:08,620
But what I read, what was also said

1487
03:11:08,620 --> 03:11:11,160
when this was presented a few weeks ago,

1488
03:11:11,360 --> 03:11:13,760
and we asked specifically why wasn't this funded,

1489
03:11:14,320 --> 03:11:18,420
the response was the application was not specific enough.

1490
03:11:19,520 --> 03:11:21,000
But then I looked at the application

1491
03:11:21,000 --> 03:11:22,520
and it's pretty darn specific.

1492
03:11:23,480 --> 03:11:27,100
So these are the things that are coming up in my mind

1493
03:11:27,100 --> 03:11:31,960
of why they shouldn't get, should have gotten something if you just looked at the scoring

1494
03:11:31,960 --> 03:11:32,320
along.

1495
03:11:33,220 --> 03:11:33,400
Yeah.

1496
03:11:33,660 --> 03:11:39,840
And I think that the advisory board was thinking, you know, because I don't think they scored

1497
03:11:39,840 --> 03:11:43,340
a zero with everybody, you know, they were getting points.

1498
03:11:44,060 --> 03:11:50,720
I think it was more if we can't fund the entire 327,000, they're not going to be able to complete

1499
03:11:50,720 --> 03:11:54,100
this project and they're just going to keep coming back year after year.

1500
03:11:54,100 --> 03:11:58,740
So I think that's that's what that was going did they apply or asked to

1501
03:11:58,740 --> 03:12:04,060
applicant that during the interview if we can't only give you a portion what

1502
03:12:04,060 --> 03:12:07,380
what will this look like in the future? Well it's one of the questions in

1503
03:12:07,380 --> 03:12:10,560
the application and they they just looked at blank they didn't put that they could

1504
03:12:10,560 --> 03:12:15,460
get funding from from any other source. I understand but a lot of times in that

1505
03:12:15,460 --> 03:12:20,160
interview process you'll say hey you left this blank can you explain that and I

1506
03:12:21,660 --> 03:12:24,000
I'm not sure if that happened in the interview.

1507
03:12:24,280 --> 03:12:29,100
I think with, you know, they got the 100,000 last year

1508
03:12:29,100 --> 03:12:32,140
and they also didn't go out and get any other funding

1509
03:12:32,580 --> 03:12:35,300
during that whole time period last year.

1510
03:12:36,820 --> 03:12:40,940
So, so, JC is here, if you want to ask if they have

1511
03:12:40,940 --> 03:12:45,720
other sources of funding, that could help move it along.

1512
03:12:51,620 --> 03:12:56,860
So, yes, we did play for the restaurant tax grant last year, received the $100,000.

1513
03:12:57,680 --> 03:13:03,120
During the interview, we did speak about how doing it in phases because my budget is small.

1514
03:13:03,460 --> 03:13:10,640
I mean, my total budget is $200,000 for the year, and they ask, you know, what would you

1515
03:13:10,640 --> 03:13:10,980
do first?

1516
03:13:11,160 --> 03:13:14,500
Would you do pickleball or basketball courts or the field?

1517
03:13:14,500 --> 03:13:19,220
And in my interview, I stated that I, how do you choose that?

1518
03:13:19,660 --> 03:13:23,420
So and it's easier to do all it wants is more cost effective.

1519
03:13:23,420 --> 03:13:25,020
You don't have to dig up the lines.

1520
03:13:25,200 --> 03:13:26,900
You don't have to do it again, re-landscape.

1521
03:13:27,480 --> 03:13:29,520
And so we were going to do it in phases.

1522
03:13:30,240 --> 03:13:34,520
And so with this $100,000 that I got last year, we were hoping to get more funding this year

1523
03:13:34,520 --> 03:13:37,600
from restaurant and RAP to do the phase one.

1524
03:13:37,600 --> 03:13:40,000
It's going to cost me $154,000.

1525
03:13:40,000 --> 03:13:46,720
that includes to do install the conduits, the electrical lines, circuit wipers and keep them covered,

1526
03:13:46,720 --> 03:13:51,960
so no one gets injured, they stay safe, and then the next phase would be to install

1527
03:13:52,510 --> 03:13:58,480
put the LED lights, the poles, timer system, and a scoreboard for the remainder 267,000.

1528
03:13:59,100 --> 03:14:04,720
That was explained in my interview. The remark I got was to go get funding from Big Canyon,

1529
03:14:04,720 --> 03:14:08,820
and go ask that from which Flair Construction has donated.

1530
03:14:09,260 --> 03:14:11,080
I applied for Rocky Mountain Power Foundation.

1531
03:14:12,040 --> 03:14:14,320
Hopefully we'll receive $15,000 from that.

1532
03:14:14,700 --> 03:14:16,360
I'm also applying for team mobile.

1533
03:14:16,820 --> 03:14:21,380
They've offered 26 million to use program foundation.

1534
03:14:21,840 --> 03:14:23,880
So yes, we are actively looking,

1535
03:14:24,120 --> 03:14:28,980
but $500 from Flair Construction doesn't go far.

1536
03:14:29,440 --> 03:14:32,100
So that's, right now we're stuck.

1537
03:14:32,100 --> 03:14:39,780
We're in a standpoint of I would like to move forward I the community wants lights. They will but was a hundred thousand. I can't

1538
03:14:40,720 --> 03:14:43,080
Do much so that's why a

1539
03:14:44,120 --> 03:14:47,800
Three marks you got last week or whatever it was was incorrect

1540
03:14:47,800 --> 03:14:53,600
I did give a very descriptive application. I can tell you exactly how many lights and polls and

1541
03:14:54,400 --> 03:14:58,620
So that was my frustration is what you guys were told was incorrect

1542
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:03,140
Thank you. Megan, any questions?

1543
03:15:05,700 --> 03:15:30,760
No, I guess more generally and this would be a question for Katie. And I'm so glad that we have you here now. I know you weren't here for this last round and you just started this year. And so I'm really excited to have your expertise, you know, in in this role and going forward. What would you tell applicants?

1544
03:15:30,760 --> 03:15:39,800
And in order to move forward, because we hear from applicants that either didn't get

1545
03:15:39,800 --> 03:15:45,660
as much as they wanted or didn't get funded, what kind of support does the county offer

1546
03:15:45,660 --> 03:15:51,120
so that in the next go around, people are more prepared or get the feedback they need

1547
03:15:51,120 --> 03:15:54,780
to get the funding that they're looking for?

1548
03:15:55,500 --> 03:15:56,680
Yeah, I think that's a great question.

1549
03:15:56,680 --> 03:16:09,420
I think with these applications, I think that this application could have had more information in it and that it actually could have been a better application.

1550
03:16:09,700 --> 03:16:19,960
So always before applying anyone can reach out and I can go over the application with them and make sure that they understand everything that needs to be in the application.

1551
03:16:21,460 --> 03:16:27,700
I've also rebamped our website to just make sure that a lot of, you know, the requirements

1552
03:16:27,700 --> 03:16:31,020
for the application are just an ordinance where someone has to go find it, but they're

1553
03:16:31,020 --> 03:16:31,900
right there on the page.

1554
03:16:33,180 --> 03:16:37,440
With this one, it is a little tricky when you are doing really big projects that are

1555
03:16:37,440 --> 03:16:38,300
multi-year projects.

1556
03:16:38,680 --> 03:16:42,640
It just really is hard with these grants because they really are meant to be an annual

1557
03:16:42,640 --> 03:16:45,640
grant where the project is done in an 18-month time period.

1558
03:16:45,640 --> 03:16:53,420
So, that is very tricky with the advisory board when they know that's a requirement of the grant but there's these multi-year projects.

1559
03:16:54,380 --> 03:17:02,560
And so, I don't know the best answer for that other than if you really are going to take on a project that requires this much funding.

1560
03:17:03,140 --> 03:17:14,360
You really do kind of need to show that you have other sources that are going to help you complete the project and not have to come back to the county for four years in a row to complete the project.

1561
03:17:14,360 --> 03:17:31,160
So that's I think that's tricky in this, you know, because I think that this project does fall under this grant, you know, if once it's completed, more tourists will come if they can have tournaments and other things like that, it will bring more tourists to to the east side.

1562
03:17:31,560 --> 03:17:37,800
But it would be really helpful if, you know, they could find some other sources of funding to help move it along a little bit faster.

1563
03:17:38,540 --> 03:17:44,740
Yeah. Thank you. And I think that is a challenge, you know, in thinking of it, you know, across

1564
03:17:44,740 --> 03:17:52,580
the county, like we, you know, want to support all, you know, whether it's governmental or

1565
03:17:52,580 --> 03:17:58,300
non-profits applying for these grants. And some of our non-profits do have a lot more

1566
03:17:58,300 --> 03:18:04,780
funding sources and donor bases, you know, than others. And so just, I guess, trying to

1567
03:18:04,780 --> 03:18:12,440
balance that figure out how we can better support, you know, or, yeah, I don't know how we address that in.

1568
03:18:12,780 --> 03:18:17,300
And I mean, there are organizations that give out multi-year grants, parks that he does it.

1569
03:18:17,740 --> 03:18:23,480
They have three year multi-year grants that you can apply for and receive funding for multiple years.

1570
03:18:23,480 --> 03:18:32,840
So if that's something that the county wanted to do to change the ordinances and have more multi-year grants, we could move, you know, we could do that as well.

1571
03:18:32,840 --> 03:18:42,500
Is that something that that you would recommend or that you're looking into in this role going forward or it's not something I have thought about much.

1572
03:18:43,120 --> 03:18:52,720
So, you know, we could we could think about it more and maybe I would talk to Park City and see if they think it's gone well or it's been tricky to do those multi-year grants.

1573
03:18:53,580 --> 03:18:58,920
But but I think it's it's an option if you wanted to fund some of these larger projects.

1574
03:18:58,920 --> 03:19:06,100
Okay. Thank you. And again, I'm so glad that you're here and I'm part of the county now and in this role.

1575
03:19:07,440 --> 03:19:07,660
Chris.

1576
03:19:13,030 --> 03:19:21,990
Well, I'm generally grateful that we're reconsidering this and just want to better understand.

1577
03:19:21,990 --> 03:19:28,330
And if we were to award some grant,

1578
03:19:29,230 --> 03:19:31,990
what it would look like to North Summit Recreation,

1579
03:19:31,990 --> 03:19:33,390
special service district,

1580
03:19:34,070 --> 03:19:35,410
where the money would come from

1581
03:19:35,410 --> 03:19:36,470
and what it would look like.

1582
03:19:37,350 --> 03:19:39,690
And I asked for $327,000.

1583
03:19:41,050 --> 03:19:41,970
And right.

1584
03:19:42,810 --> 03:19:43,090
Yeah, but.

1585
03:19:43,870 --> 03:19:48,510
And so what are we thinking?

1586
03:19:49,270 --> 03:19:50,930
Let me ask a couple of questions.

1587
03:19:50,930 --> 03:19:59,830
Let me go back to Dave Thomas first, is there a prohibition on granting money for a project we can't be completed in 18?

1588
03:20:00,740 --> 03:20:10,420
There is an prohibition in the ordinance. I think you said policy. It's a policy decision. So we can always wave policy if we want to do that. Correct. Okay.

1589
03:20:13,080 --> 03:20:21,720
I'm just wondering if the structure of the request, I'm trying to get creative here to

1590
03:20:21,720 --> 03:20:23,040
get just some place down the road.

1591
03:20:25,100 --> 03:20:33,440
If the money that was granted would just have been used to put in infrastructure, so

1592
03:20:33,440 --> 03:20:38,340
no project was, there's not a pickleball court that's going to be lit, that somebody can

1593
03:20:38,340 --> 03:20:38,660
get on.

1594
03:20:38,660 --> 03:20:45,240
you're just laying your groundwork so that the next year you start building facilities that match

1595
03:20:45,240 --> 03:20:49,120
up with where you want to put the lighting poles. You're not going to put the lighting poles in

1596
03:20:49,120 --> 03:20:55,940
initially. You're just going to run underground conduit. Is that right? Okay. So I'm wondering if the

1597
03:20:55,940 --> 03:21:07,060
phasing could be different to trigger the funding. In other words, get infrastructure in plus a pickle

1598
03:21:07,060 --> 03:21:13,840
ball court. That's a project. That's one we can tie it to tourism. That's one we can

1599
03:21:13,840 --> 03:21:21,020
tie it to some of the other things that receive points. Whereas just laying lines doesn't

1600
03:21:21,020 --> 03:21:24,620
note. We're not going to attract one tourist to come in and look at your infrastructure.

1601
03:21:24,620 --> 03:21:33,720
They don't care. And it doesn't meet the other needs. If revisiting the purpose of the

1602
03:21:33,720 --> 03:21:41,340
grant that gets the infrastructure in plus something that has utility that matches the

1603
03:21:41,340 --> 03:21:47,160
rest of it. Does that make sense? I'm following you. I'm following you. I just don't know

1604
03:21:47,160 --> 03:21:54,540
if that's. Yeah. I don't need a project. Not ready for that yet. No, because we had to

1605
03:21:54,540 --> 03:22:00,040
cut back on. When I first got started, we had to cut the lights out to complete the project.

1606
03:22:00,040 --> 03:22:05,360
So now we need lights to continue building this complex.

1607
03:22:05,680 --> 03:22:07,360
What's in place now on the complex?

1608
03:22:07,580 --> 03:22:08,700
What exists now?

1609
03:22:09,200 --> 03:22:12,420
A multi-purpose field, those softball, soccer fields.

1610
03:22:12,620 --> 03:22:12,920
Been there.

1611
03:22:13,120 --> 03:22:13,740
It's a great field.

1612
03:22:14,400 --> 03:22:14,460
Yep.

1613
03:22:14,800 --> 03:22:16,320
Or a keyboard and a basketball court.

1614
03:22:16,920 --> 03:22:18,220
So the courts are in.

1615
03:22:18,460 --> 03:22:19,620
They think in but the lighting.

1616
03:22:20,640 --> 03:22:21,540
That's where we're stuck.

1617
03:22:21,860 --> 03:22:23,880
Like next Saturday we have a softball tournament.

1618
03:22:24,780 --> 03:22:28,800
They would rather come at night, have, you know, the games at night, food trucks, but we

1619
03:22:30,420 --> 03:22:34,900
So what if phase one of the project is lights for the softball field period?

1620
03:22:35,500 --> 03:22:37,380
Well, that's when we lumped it all together.

1621
03:22:37,740 --> 03:22:42,800
So if we do this all together just to put in the conduits, it's 154,000.

1622
03:22:44,740 --> 03:22:46,380
And you have 100,000 right now.

1623
03:22:46,420 --> 03:22:47,820
Yeah, I have 100,000 right now.

1624
03:22:48,480 --> 03:22:50,320
We had additional 54,000.

1625
03:22:50,400 --> 03:22:55,040
We can do the conduits and the concrete structure.

1626
03:22:55,040 --> 03:22:59,900
and then come back and face two and put in the polls and LED lights and the

1627
03:22:59,900 --> 03:23:04,360
scoreboard. I'm doing a new application. And that's just the softball field. No

1628
03:23:04,360 --> 03:23:09,860
that's the whole structure. The whole facility is going to cost 427,000. What

1629
03:23:09,860 --> 03:23:14,280
happens if we take that back a bit and just do with the softball field? We're just

1630
03:23:14,280 --> 03:23:20,240
put lights in on the pickleball court just to get something going. Get you down

1631
03:23:20,240 --> 03:23:25,500
on the road. Yeah, I get something, something that has utility that meets the statute or

1632
03:23:25,500 --> 03:23:30,340
meets the requirements of the ordinance. Is there a way to make that work?

1633
03:23:30,780 --> 03:23:38,520
Yeah, we could. But I would like, yes, but we would just have to dig line for the clickable

1634
03:23:38,520 --> 03:23:40,140
on the back of the court later, then.

1635
03:23:44,440 --> 03:23:55,080
So as I understand this is about to say he has a backup you know we do have some of us and some track

1636
03:23:55,080 --> 03:24:03,520
lighting ones but the I'm sure we get wholesome to come in and put it in no problem need a trench.

1637
03:24:03,520 --> 03:24:11,580
So when I read, when I read the packet, you had this $427,000 project for the lighting.

1638
03:24:12,240 --> 03:24:15,220
You asked for $327,000.

1639
03:24:15,320 --> 03:24:22,540
The committee turned you down because they couldn't give you the $327, and that, therefore,

1640
03:24:22,620 --> 03:24:25,360
they didn't want to piece me in it, okay.

1641
03:24:25,800 --> 03:24:31,180
And the reason they couldn't give the $327 was competing against that project.

1642
03:24:32,200 --> 03:24:39,960
But do we have, I mean, in the in the crazy world, let's say we just say great, we want

1643
03:24:39,960 --> 03:24:43,620
to we want you to have enough money to finish this is North Summit.

1644
03:24:43,620 --> 03:24:45,980
REC is an important part of our community.

1645
03:24:47,140 --> 03:24:49,280
Do we have 327,000?

1646
03:24:51,530 --> 03:24:57,590
We don't have that in the annual allotment that we, that the restaurant taxes was allocating.

1647
03:24:58,070 --> 03:24:58,350
right?

1648
03:24:58,850 --> 03:24:59,830
Part of the rest of the text.

1649
03:24:59,830 --> 03:24:59,850
Bye.

1650
03:25:00,000 --> 03:25:29,980
Let's see, we have an annual amount, not how much is how much should they not allocate this year? Well, Chris, the county holds back 10%. I know, I know, I know, I'm not. So that's what you're trying to. Okay. Well, I know without that thing, dipping into the 10%. We allocate all the 90%. Yes. So there's about 70,000 that you could allocate out of the 90% and then out of the 10% there's there's much more. If my understanding is if you allocate out of the 90%

1651
03:25:29,980 --> 03:25:37,920
90%, we have to go back and open up the grant again and have the advisory board make a recommendation.

1652
03:25:38,780 --> 03:25:44,160
If you use the 10%, then you don't have to go through that, is that correct?

1653
03:25:45,640 --> 03:25:49,160
And then what would become of the 70,000 that's left over?

1654
03:25:49,560 --> 03:25:53,760
It would just go into the allocations for the next funding cycle next year.

1655
03:25:53,880 --> 03:25:54,420
The next funding cycle.

1656
03:25:55,840 --> 03:25:58,680
So how much do you have in the 10% fund?

1657
03:25:58,680 --> 03:26:08,760
Just over two million, okay, four million sorry for four million. Well, he always rounds up when he's he rounds down actually

1658
03:26:08,760 --> 03:26:14,180
So there's like five in one he's selling he rounds up so you know

1659
03:26:14,180 --> 03:26:27,900
Of course being the spend trip that I am and big spender I would be in favor of giving him the 327,000 again the damn thing built out of the 10 percent

1660
03:26:30,250 --> 03:26:32,490
Not this is a damn thing. That's a figure of speech.

1661
03:26:32,930 --> 03:26:35,350
Have I ever told you how much I love you, Chris Robinson?

1662
03:26:35,910 --> 03:26:36,950
Not this week.

1663
03:26:41,100 --> 03:26:48,420
You know, Nois Summit as a seat of the government here doesn't, you know,

1664
03:26:48,500 --> 03:26:52,840
a lot of this money gets spread all over the county and I know it's generated in other places,

1665
03:26:53,360 --> 03:26:56,680
but Nois Summit doesn't get much and it doesn't have much to ask for.

1666
03:26:58,040 --> 03:27:00,600
I think if they need lights here, we ought to give them the lights.

1667
03:27:08,470 --> 03:27:09,670
You're going to make me cry.

1668
03:27:12,310 --> 03:27:13,430
I don't have any time.

1669
03:27:13,670 --> 03:27:14,630
Yes, I've been online.

1670
03:27:15,630 --> 03:27:16,090
Okay.

1671
03:27:17,490 --> 03:27:19,230
Not the last three times I checked.

1672
03:27:19,670 --> 03:27:19,850
We're cleared.

1673
03:27:20,970 --> 03:27:22,350
I've been online for this topic.

1674
03:27:23,370 --> 03:27:23,670
Okay.

1675
03:27:24,010 --> 03:27:24,570
Do you have any thoughts?

1676
03:27:27,200 --> 03:27:27,900
I'm torn.

1677
03:27:28,080 --> 03:27:31,660
I mean, I get this sympathy of Chris's idea of the entire lights,

1678
03:27:31,660 --> 03:27:34,640
but you talk about the mother of all special exceptions.

1679
03:27:35,680 --> 03:27:41,200
Like, I think you're setting a precedent that you're now going to have to answer for

1680
03:27:41,200 --> 03:27:46,380
we get the next year. So I mean I love the idea of supporting North Summit that part's easy but

1681
03:27:47,120 --> 03:27:50,780
like every time you do this kind of stuff you're just hoping to do it for another person.

1682
03:27:50,840 --> 03:27:52,880
It's just shows favoritism so you got to be careful.

1683
03:27:55,100 --> 03:27:58,500
I guess I have the luxury of not having to live with that constantly.

1684
03:27:59,340 --> 03:28:04,840
Yeah exactly like you won't be here. Well who knows if I'm here but you know I'm all for supporting

1685
03:28:04,840 --> 03:28:08,560
North Summit. I just I just really worry about the president you're setting just

1686
03:28:08,560 --> 03:28:12,940
because we have a propensity for loving this organization.

1687
03:28:14,320 --> 03:28:17,640
Yeah, you can blame that crazy guy that stepped off finally.

1688
03:28:22,980 --> 03:28:23,940
Do you want me to make a motion?

1689
03:28:25,320 --> 03:28:26,200
I don't want to.

1690
03:28:26,300 --> 03:28:26,540
It's not.

1691
03:28:31,400 --> 03:28:36,780
We could let stand the committee's decision.

1692
03:28:37,520 --> 03:28:41,800
We could run it back through the committee and they might allocate 70,000

1693
03:28:41,800 --> 03:28:45,740
unless they were to take money away from other applicants.

1694
03:28:46,840 --> 03:28:49,880
or this thing just gets kicked down the road another year.

1695
03:28:51,280 --> 03:28:58,760
So in absolute terms we should not kick it back to the committee because now you're affecting all of the organizations.

1696
03:28:59,800 --> 03:29:02,580
And we should not force the committee to do something.

1697
03:29:03,240 --> 03:29:08,940
I mean, unless we thought this back when we approved it, we shouldn't be going back on the committee on something like this.

1698
03:29:09,120 --> 03:29:14,780
So in my mind, if you're going to do something, you have to do it out of the 10% and then that way you don't affect the other organizations.

1699
03:29:15,340 --> 03:29:20,580
they're all fully funded as that was you know that chosen and then you're just

1700
03:29:20,580 --> 03:29:24,380
deciding to pull but then I wonder is this even the process for funding

1701
03:29:24,380 --> 03:29:30,260
something like this but you got to pull out the 10% if you do it. I agree with

1702
03:29:30,260 --> 03:29:33,660
you can't us I don't want to disrupt all of the other applicants I don't think

1703
03:29:33,660 --> 03:29:41,720
best fair we need to look at the 10% I agree with that as well do

1704
03:29:44,120 --> 03:29:45,540
we

1705
03:29:48,550 --> 03:29:49,170
want do we

1706
03:29:49,170 --> 03:29:55,550
I want the whoever makes this agenda to bring it back next time for the next meeting.

1707
03:29:56,290 --> 03:29:59,190
It's in one week, we got one on the 24th.

1708
03:30:01,610 --> 03:30:27,370
Well, I think we've done a lot, the fair line share of the conversation today, so I think we would make it a let's bring it back for a quick item. Okay. We'll do that. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Good luck. All right. I'll entertain a motion to go to close for personnel. So moved. Second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Someone sent me a link. We have a moment. Okay.

1709
03:30:31,250 --> 03:30:31,630
Listen.

1710
03:30:33,430 --> 03:30:39,750
move by Chris seconded by time you're going to close for personnel. Everybody said okay.

1711
03:30:39,750 --> 03:30:39,950
I don't know.

1712
03:30:40,970 --> 03:30:41,410
Um.

1713
03:30:44,020 --> 03:30:44,940
You just pick it up.

1714
03:30:45,020 --> 03:30:45,160
Yeah.

1715
03:30:45,500 --> 03:30:45,740
Two.

1716
03:30:46,180 --> 03:30:47,300
Seven minutes to get that.

1717
03:30:47,480 --> 03:30:47,600
12.

1718
03:30:47,740 --> 03:30:47,880
Two.

1719
03:30:49,040 --> 03:30:49,940
We can do it.

1720
03:31:04,950 --> 03:31:05,770
Thanks for the long.

1721
03:31:06,050 --> 03:31:06,570
What kind of.

1722
03:31:06,770 --> 03:31:07,390
The letter.

1723
03:31:08,590 --> 03:31:09,350
How do you think?

1724
03:31:09,910 --> 03:31:10,890
It's pretty awful.

1725
03:31:11,070 --> 03:31:11,850
We're just going to.

1726
03:31:37,380 --> 03:31:38,320
So we're going to.

1727
03:31:39,600 --> 03:31:40,040
Yeah.

1728
03:31:40,940 --> 03:31:41,440
Any color.

1729
03:31:41,680 --> 03:31:41,720
Yeah.

1730
03:31:41,720 --> 03:31:41,920
Yeah.

1731
03:31:45,320 --> 03:31:45,760
Yeah.

1732
03:31:46,340 --> 03:31:46,500
Yeah.

1733
03:33:19,100 --> 03:33:19,180
Watch out.

1734
03:34:37,220 --> 03:34:37,960
That way?

1735
03:34:40,130 --> 03:34:40,410
No.

1736
03:34:42,010 --> 03:34:43,490
That way, watch.

1737
03:34:44,710 --> 03:34:45,230
That's right.

1738
03:34:45,230 --> 03:34:46,090
I just heard Mr. Chair.

1739
03:34:47,610 --> 03:34:47,790
Ah.

1740
03:37:48,300 --> 03:38:01,920
Moving along, I will entertain a motion to appoint John Olive to serve the unexpired term of

1741
03:38:01,920 --> 03:38:11,220
done sergeant with the inter-appointment expiring February 28, 2027.

1742
03:38:13,250 --> 03:38:16,570
I'll make that motion, Mr. Chair.

1743
03:38:18,650 --> 03:38:18,950
Second.

1744
03:38:19,690 --> 03:38:22,790
Moved by Chris, seconded by Megan, all those in favor say aye.

1745
03:38:23,210 --> 03:38:23,410
Aye.

1746
03:38:23,650 --> 03:38:23,690
Aye.

1747
03:38:25,050 --> 03:38:25,910
Any opposed?

1748
03:38:26,970 --> 03:38:28,030
And do we have an abstention?

1749
03:38:28,950 --> 03:38:29,890
I will abstain.

1750
03:38:31,210 --> 03:38:36,270
That would be Council Member Hart abstain, he was not able to be present during the interviews.

1751
03:38:37,130 --> 03:38:48,460
And next I will entertain a motion to appoint Terry Dixon to serve on the Eastern Summit

1752
03:38:48,460 --> 03:38:56,360
County Planning Commission with his term expiring February 28, 2029.

1753
03:38:56,360 --> 03:39:11,540
I'm going to move by time you're second by Chris all those in favor say aye aye any opposed motion carries any abstentions I abstain.

1754
03:39:12,800 --> 03:39:22,120
Councillor Bajart abstains on this matter as well. All right I'll entertain a motion to approve the minutes of May 6 and May 20.

1755
03:39:37,570 --> 03:39:39,370
It's called, isn't it? Not CDBG.

1756
03:39:43,100 --> 03:39:44,520
Really? Okay.

1757
03:39:46,260 --> 03:39:51,960
We had a meeting a couple of weeks ago where we had to split into two meetings because the CDBG has to be its own meeting.

1758
03:39:52,180 --> 03:39:56,320
So it was, I think, a two-minute meeting, but those minutes have to be separately approved.

1759
03:39:56,320 --> 03:39:59,600
or so if we could have for the next time.

1760
03:40:01,720 --> 03:40:09,200
I see that now. I misread it discount because I can't read. Okay. So, Tanya, you were absent on the 20th.

1761
03:40:11,520 --> 03:40:17,360
So, I'll entertain a motion to approve the minutes from May 6, 2026.

1762
03:40:21,160 --> 03:40:25,180
Any six is just general. It was a county meeting. Council meeting.

1763
03:40:25,860 --> 03:40:28,160
It's been moved by Canada. I'll second it.

1764
03:40:28,560 --> 03:40:31,240
Move by Canada. Seconded by Chris. All those in diversity. I.

1765
03:40:31,900 --> 03:40:33,880
I. I. Okay.

1766
03:40:35,180 --> 03:40:41,120
Then no, you were there for that one. That was May 6th. Now we're looking at May 20th.

1767
03:40:41,860 --> 03:40:48,020
No, since I was here on this one, too, says absent in the work session on your hands.

1768
03:40:48,960 --> 03:40:51,120
Yeah, but then it says, I made it.

1769
03:40:51,120 --> 03:40:51,840
Did you come back?

1770
03:40:52,220 --> 03:40:53,560
I made emotionally closed.

1771
03:40:56,560 --> 03:40:59,180
Well, I think I was absent, though, because I couldn't.

1772
03:40:59,660 --> 03:41:01,400
Maybe he just came here for closed and left.

1773
03:41:02,320 --> 03:41:03,780
Oh, yeah, that's right.

1774
03:41:04,920 --> 03:41:06,140
Yeah, that's what happened.

1775
03:41:06,140 --> 03:41:12,780
So, entertain a motion to approve the minutes of the council minutes of May 20, 20, 20, 26.

1776
03:41:15,780 --> 03:41:16,340
Second.

1777
03:41:17,720 --> 03:41:19,700
Moved by Chris. Do I have a second?

1778
03:41:21,300 --> 03:41:21,660
Second.

1779
03:41:22,100 --> 03:41:24,300
Seconded by Megan. All those in favor say aye.

1780
03:41:26,240 --> 03:41:28,000
Motion carries unanimously.

1781
03:41:29,300 --> 03:41:34,060
I'll entertain a motion to approve the minutes for the CDBG

1782
03:41:35,000 --> 03:41:37,980
minutes of May 22, 2026.

1783
03:41:38,240 --> 03:41:38,860
So moved.

1784
03:41:39,580 --> 03:41:40,140
Second.

1785
03:41:40,680 --> 03:41:41,500
Move by time.

1786
03:41:41,620 --> 03:41:42,380
Seconded by Megan.

1787
03:41:42,380 --> 03:41:43,640
All those in favor say aye.

1788
03:41:44,900 --> 03:41:45,180
Aye.

1789
03:41:45,720 --> 03:41:46,080
Any opposed?

1790
03:41:47,240 --> 03:41:47,800
Absolutely.

1791
03:41:47,980 --> 03:41:49,140
Tiny, you can't make that motion.

1792
03:41:49,140 --> 03:41:49,800
You're right there.

1793
03:41:49,980 --> 03:41:51,120
Oh, I can't make that motion.

1794
03:41:51,300 --> 03:41:51,540
Okay.

1795
03:41:51,860 --> 03:41:52,600
It's all entertained.

1796
03:41:52,600 --> 03:41:53,340
Let's revisit.

1797
03:41:53,660 --> 03:41:57,040
All entertain a motion to approve the CDBG public hearing

1798
03:41:57,040 --> 03:42:01,960
minutes as a kind of counsel from May 22, 2026.

1799
03:42:21,780 --> 03:42:31,940
I'm sorry I was the moment in our meeting where we'll entertain public input so if we have any

1800
03:42:31,940 --> 03:42:37,460
anybody that would like to address the council on any matter that is not something that

1801
03:42:37,460 --> 03:42:42,240
is on the agenda today or a land use item that is either before the Planning Commission

1802
03:42:42,240 --> 03:42:46,820
possibly coming to the council for appeal or currently before the Senate County Council.

1803
03:42:46,820 --> 03:42:49,920
We'd like to hear from you. Please tell us your name.

1804
03:42:51,020 --> 03:42:53,860
Hi. My name is Craig Weakley.

1805
03:42:54,060 --> 03:42:54,400
Weakley.

1806
03:42:55,600 --> 03:43:01,340
I just as reminded all of you, I am a board member of the Park City, the nonprofit Park

1807
03:43:01,340 --> 03:43:09,420
City Senior Citizens Inc. associated with the Senior Center in Park City. I come today with words

1808
03:43:09,420 --> 03:43:20,980
of appreciation, specifically for Dr. Phil Banderam. He last week was on KPCW, you may have heard him,

1809
03:43:21,160 --> 03:43:28,420
interview with Leslie, and in the most recent edition of the Summit County Health newsletter,

1810
03:43:28,420 --> 03:43:38,360
better. He called attention to this being in June, men's mental health month. And he

1811
03:43:38,360 --> 03:43:45,020
noted that we have something of a crisis with respect to men's mental health, hearing

1812
03:43:45,020 --> 03:43:57,220
Utah and hearing some accounting. He cited issues of isolation, loneliness, depression, despair,

1813
03:43:57,220 --> 03:44:02,580
and even suicide. In fact, he noted that in some account the suicide rate is three times

1814
03:44:02,580 --> 03:44:13,300
the national average with this population. So, and he said, and I quote from his newsletter,

1815
03:44:13,480 --> 03:44:24,100
these numbers are staggering to me. They are to me too, and I'm sure to you as well. And I thank

1816
03:44:24,100 --> 03:44:30,320
feel for bringing this to everybody's attention, I think it's a critical issue.

1817
03:44:31,280 --> 03:44:32,740
And we need to do something about it.

1818
03:44:33,500 --> 03:44:38,120
We also need to make doing something about it a priority.

1819
03:44:39,540 --> 03:44:45,200
One of the solutions to a problem like this is senior centers.

1820
03:44:47,700 --> 03:44:53,720
like the ones here in Colville, in Camus, and of course in Park City.

1821
03:44:54,960 --> 03:44:58,340
senior centers draw people out of isolation.

1822
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:29,740
Engage them with their peers, through congregate meals, through communal activities and programming. They build community, which is exactly what these folks need. And I want to thank the council and the staff, particularly Janna Young, for embarking on a strategic review of senior services here in some accounting. You all put money in the budget. For this year to hire

1823
03:45:29,740 --> 03:45:38,140
consultant to lead this project. It is underway. It kicked off in May. And in fact, the consultant

1824
03:45:38,140 --> 03:45:44,660
that was hired is in town tonight. In fact, they're here the rest of the week. And they're

1825
03:45:44,660 --> 03:45:49,920
doing community engagement. They're striving to understand the needs and aspirations of our seniors.

1826
03:45:51,200 --> 03:45:59,000
And tonight, in fact, as we speak, there's an event at ledges. And it's an open house for the

1827
03:45:59,000 --> 03:46:05,140
community for seniors across Summit County and others to come and share their thoughts.

1828
03:46:06,580 --> 03:46:12,980
And I hope you'll join me when this Council session concludes and head over to Ledges

1829
03:46:13,780 --> 03:46:21,040
and participate in that event because we do need to make this a priority in Summit County

1830
03:46:21,560 --> 03:46:27,600
and address the issues like the one that Phil Dr. Bonda has identified.

1831
03:46:27,600 --> 03:46:28,960
Thank you.

1832
03:46:29,500 --> 03:46:30,340
Thanks Craig.

1833
03:46:30,980 --> 03:46:33,480
Thanks for all you do in this space.

1834
03:46:33,940 --> 03:46:34,360
Thank you.

1835
03:46:35,740 --> 03:46:36,820
Anybody else?

1836
03:46:38,560 --> 03:46:39,980
Ryan, how are we looking online?

1837
03:46:42,140 --> 03:46:44,400
There are no hands raised online, Mr. Chair.

1838
03:46:45,200 --> 03:46:45,740
Thank you.

1839
03:46:46,100 --> 03:46:46,320
Okay.

1840
03:46:46,480 --> 03:46:49,100
Then I'm going to close public input for today.

1841
03:46:49,620 --> 03:46:50,780
Making council comments.

1842
03:46:51,460 --> 03:46:52,000
Sure.

1843
03:46:52,460 --> 03:46:53,860
No, I'll keep this brief.

1844
03:46:54,060 --> 03:46:58,780
I just wanted to say thanks to our Arts Council.

1845
03:46:58,780 --> 03:47:02,440
for another great Latino arts fest last weekend.

1846
03:47:02,820 --> 03:47:06,180
It was great to catch up with Jocelyn and see

1847
03:47:06,780 --> 03:47:08,580
that every year that grow.

1848
03:47:08,980 --> 03:47:11,700
I got to go for the Brazil watch party,

1849
03:47:12,020 --> 03:47:13,040
which was really fun.

1850
03:47:13,880 --> 03:47:15,600
And I also got to ride the Bob.

1851
03:47:16,060 --> 03:47:18,940
So High Valley Transit rolled out the Bob

1852
03:47:18,940 --> 03:47:20,700
for their, what were they calling it?

1853
03:47:20,720 --> 03:47:23,420
The Tiny Bus Concert, which was really cool.

1854
03:47:23,500 --> 03:47:25,040
So thanks to High Valley for that as well.

1855
03:47:26,060 --> 03:47:29,440
Last weekend was the first annual, they're calling it,

1856
03:47:29,540 --> 03:47:30,640
Canvas Bike Rodeo.

1857
03:47:31,520 --> 03:47:33,000
Canvas and I were both there.

1858
03:47:33,080 --> 03:47:34,600
I didn't realize the search and rescue

1859
03:47:34,600 --> 03:47:36,420
was going to have a tent there as well.

1860
03:47:36,580 --> 03:47:39,160
This is at the Canvas branch of the library.

1861
03:47:40,220 --> 03:47:40,660
Really great.

1862
03:47:40,940 --> 03:47:45,380
Just shout out to Katie Stelplug and her team there

1863
03:47:45,380 --> 03:47:48,980
at Canvas for putting on a really great community event.

1864
03:47:49,500 --> 03:47:53,280
That was really well attended and lots

1865
03:47:53,280 --> 03:47:57,160
of great participation from the search and rescue volunteers as well.

1866
03:47:58,340 --> 03:48:02,920
I just wanted to say one more time the housing authority is the second

1867
03:48:02,920 --> 03:48:07,180
speaker series is on Monday and it'd be really great if anyone that's able to

1868
03:48:07,180 --> 03:48:12,340
can attend that's up mountain regional water the topic this time is open space

1869
03:48:12,340 --> 03:48:20,120
and housing that's 530 to 730 at their new facility on Monday and then lastly I

1870
03:48:20,120 --> 03:48:41,980
I just wanted to recognize, I had the opportunity to attend Park City Municipal, provided a celebration for staff member Rhoda Stoffer and her retirement today, and I really just wanted to highlight what she has done for the community, for across the county in terms of affordable housing.

1871
03:48:41,980 --> 03:48:48,760
She is someone who has dedicated her career 40 years in affordable housing, half of which

1872
03:48:48,760 --> 03:48:51,540
at Park City Municipal.

1873
03:48:52,060 --> 03:48:58,100
And so from a professional level, she's been wonderful to work with in a tremendous

1874
03:48:58,100 --> 03:49:01,240
resource for the community, but also on a personal level.

1875
03:49:01,460 --> 03:49:06,980
I would not be in my housing that I'm in today if it weren't for her and her dedication.

1876
03:49:07,620 --> 03:49:16,540
and so I just wanted to acknowledge her work and her service to the community is much

1877
03:49:16,540 --> 03:49:17,020
appreciated.

1878
03:49:20,980 --> 03:49:25,500
I just wanted to share with you that I had the opportunity yesterday to attend the

1879
03:49:25,500 --> 03:49:31,140
planning department's meeting and it is such a great meeting.

1880
03:49:31,320 --> 03:49:32,460
I cannot stress enough.

1881
03:49:32,560 --> 03:49:35,940
If you really want to know what's going on in Summit County, that's the meeting to go to.

1882
03:49:35,940 --> 03:49:40,660
All the planning staff is there, engineering is there, the inspectors are there,

1883
03:49:41,140 --> 03:49:42,020
legal is there.

1884
03:49:43,840 --> 03:49:49,280
I'm going to forget someone, but all these people are there talking about all the projects going on in the county.

1885
03:49:49,940 --> 03:49:54,680
Peter, thank you for allowing me to come in and participate in that.

1886
03:49:55,040 --> 03:49:57,100
It was very enlightening, so thanks.

1887
03:50:00,820 --> 03:50:02,940
I don't have any. Canvas.

1888
03:50:05,410 --> 03:50:10,030
I just wanted to call out that the host communities, the Utah,

1889
03:50:10,170 --> 03:50:16,830
2034, Coast communities, we had a meeting on Monday. We're still really doing, formulating

1890
03:50:17,410 --> 03:50:21,970
kind of strategy and plans. We're quite early still in the process. And the next meeting

1891
03:50:21,970 --> 03:50:27,390
will be in August. And Megan was great seeing you out there that event as well. Really

1892
03:50:27,390 --> 03:50:32,190
I think you'd see the kiddos on their bikes getting free helmets and running this cool

1893
03:50:32,190 --> 03:50:36,290
obstacle course that I found basically confusing that they were able to figure out.

1894
03:50:36,490 --> 03:50:38,450
So, great community then out there in Canvas.

1895
03:50:41,030 --> 03:50:41,770
Thank you.

1896
03:50:42,550 --> 03:50:42,850
Okay.

1897
03:50:43,870 --> 03:50:44,430
Thanks.

1898
03:50:44,630 --> 03:50:45,790
Council, happy to report.

1899
03:50:45,950 --> 03:50:51,650
We had a very successful meeting yesterday, public meeting around the proposal to accommodate

1900
03:50:51,650 --> 03:51:00,310
up to 50,000 square feet of additional density in the public-private partnership with six

1901
03:51:00,310 --> 03:51:08,630
rich partners that would accommodate three separate buildings that would be for maybe

1902
03:51:08,630 --> 03:51:15,590
to be determined public spaces, but either quasi-governmental, non-profit, some kind of community

1903
03:51:15,590 --> 03:51:16,070
benefit.

1904
03:51:18,330 --> 03:51:23,330
I'm intending to sign that agreement next week, so I want you to know that.

1905
03:51:24,150 --> 03:51:30,330
This Friday is Juneteenth. It's a holiday for the county to celebrate that important

1906
03:51:30,330 --> 03:51:35,010
day. We also have a ribbon cutting that day for the art project along the rail trail.

1907
03:51:37,210 --> 03:51:44,630
Quilted ribbon. Quilted. It's just called quilted. I'm getting, it did not. It's still taking

1908
03:51:44,630 --> 03:51:50,350
in place at 11 a.m. on on on Friday and I will be there. I would love it if any of you could make it.

1909
03:51:51,310 --> 03:51:55,250
We're going to need RSVPs for the Oakley rodeo soon but we can leave that for another day but

1910
03:51:55,250 --> 03:51:59,670
please put that on your radar and if you have, if you know how many tickets you need please let me

1911
03:51:59,670 --> 03:52:04,590
Jan or Nat know as soon as possible. That's on Wednesday the first. Wednesday the first of July correct

1912
03:52:05,250 --> 03:52:11,970
and that's enough tonight. Thank you. So when I quiz him on something I can't. When you said

1913
03:52:11,970 --> 03:52:21,170
three separate buildings like the the my understanding is that the the two

1914
03:52:21,170 --> 03:52:27,430
ten up to ten thousand square foot spaces that the county would own it could

1915
03:52:27,430 --> 03:52:33,410
be used by the likes of nonprofits or the chamber would be part of larger

1916
03:52:33,410 --> 03:52:38,530
buildings on the podium not separate building. That's a good clarification face in

1917
03:52:38,530 --> 03:52:44,010
building. Yes, I know I know one of them is incorporated another 10,000 into an

1918
03:52:44,010 --> 03:52:48,450
already existing 60,000 square foot building. So that's these are spaces is

1919
03:52:48,450 --> 03:52:52,950
probably better termination. Right. Thank you for that. The one that would be

1920
03:52:52,950 --> 03:52:56,730
stand alone would be the one for the Kimberlite. Right. Just west of the peak

1921
03:52:56,730 --> 03:53:00,270
center up to 30,000 square feet. Thank you. Thank you.

1922
03:53:01,210 --> 03:53:02,790
Inheriting the motion to adjourn.

1923
03:53:02,850 --> 03:53:03,430
So moved.

1924
03:53:04,870 --> 03:53:07,410
Move by Chris, seconded by Tony, all those in favor say aye.

1925
03:53:07,550 --> 03:53:07,890
Aye.

1926
03:53:08,290 --> 03:53:08,790
We adjourned.