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We'll call the meeting to order. This is a special meeting of the Board of County Commissioners of

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Santa County. It's 7 p.m. on February 16, 2021. We're meeting tonight at the Village

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of Santa County Service Center, 7375, Powell Road, Room 102, and Wildwood, Florida.

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The first item on our agenda tonight is a proclamation recognizing February 20, 2021 as

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is Florida Healthy Teen Relationship Month.

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And I think we have a group here to be a part of this.

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Okay, the proclamation reads as follows.

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Florida Healthy Teen Relationship Month.

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Whereas each year, approximately 1.5 million high school students nationwide

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experienced physical abuse from a dating partner.

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And whereas data from the 2017 Florida Youth Risk Behavior Survey report

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indicates that 8.4% of students experience physical dating violence and 9.6% of students reported being threatened, controlled or made to feel unsafe by someone they were dating.

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And whereas many teams do not report dating violence because they fear the abuse may escalate and that they will not be believed.

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And whereas, victims of dating violence are more likely to experience the symptoms of anxiety and depression and engage in unhealthy behaviors such as drinking and smoking.

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And whereas, dating violence can be prevented and teen dating violence prevention instruction is required through Florida statutes.

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And whereas, partnerships between state agencies, nonprofits and private organizations, law enforcement in the courts, health care,

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faith-based communities and educational institutions create a coordinated, efficient, and cost-effective system of support to prevent teen dating violence.

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And whereas Florida Healthy Teen Relationship Month is an opportunity to increase awareness, social support, and education on healthy dating relationships, and provides encouragement for all four readiness to work together to prevent teen dating violence.

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Now, therefore, the Board of County Commissioners of Subter County Florida hereby proclaims the month of February 2021 as Florida Healthy Teen Relationship Month, done and proclaimed this 16th day of February 2021 Subter County Florida by the Board of County Commissioners of Subter County.

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and I understand.

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Mr. Sattel still in here.

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Thank you for what you do.

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Thank you.

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I want to thank you for what you do.

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I want to thank you for calling me a few weeks ago

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and give me the opportunity to come down and see

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your wonderful facility.

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I was impressed beyond all the leaf.

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The kids and children and teenagers of Sumpra County

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are much better off for what you folks are doing to help them.

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So I thank you from the bottom of my heart.

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Okay,

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the next item on our agenda tonight is public forum.

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The Board of County Commissioners welcomes and encourages public input on all issues subject to the Board's jurisdiction, which affect the residents of Subtac County.

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However, in order to preserve decorum in these proceedings, the Board respectfully requests that an individual wishing to address the Board during public forum be mindful of the following provisions of Section 2-3-1 of the Subtac County Code, which has been in effect since 1982.

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Each person shall limit their one address to five minutes unless granted additional time by majority vote of the Board of County Commissioners.

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I'll remark she'll be to the Board of County Commissioners as a body and not to any individual member.

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Additionally, any person making in pertinent or slanderous remarks or who becomes the boisterous,

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she'll be instructed to remain silent by the presiding officer until permission to continue as granted.

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Thank you.

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So, we will open the public forum portion of the meeting instead of anyone that would like to address the board this evening under public forum.

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Please give us your name and address for the record please.

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My name is Bryant Fulton.

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I live at 121 West Central Avenue in Bushnell.

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I wrote this speech a year and a half ago when the old board was elected.

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Well, it was still in their positions and I dreaded giving it tonight.

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Before I begin my speech tonight, I must quickly quote when the most phenomenal and

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charismatic tell-of-place screenwriters of this century.

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The late Mr. Rod Serling, any state, any entity, any ideology which fails to recognize the worth,

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the dignity, the rights of man, that state is obsolete.

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The incompetence, the belligerence, and the audacity that you all have is incomprehensible and

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unreconcilable.

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The increase in the millage rate by a hideous 26% is the equivalent of Centennial, the big floor of the lie, growth does not pay for itself.

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What price must the people of this county pay for the expense of your own nefarious and

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diabolical self-loathing that you, yourselves, are not capable of accommodating, rectifying through your own means?

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You have plundered and looted this county for everything it is worth.

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You have given it to the despotism of the developers of the villages, and you should thoroughly, and you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself.

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You are not deserving of the title of County commissioners.

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You are barely deserving of the right to call yourselves figure heads.

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The people of this county have had great vigilance this past year in modern interactions rigorously.

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And the true notion that you men are not capable of holding public office in any capacity has stood faithful.

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The lies that you have strewn throughout this county over the past two decades, and

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the lies that you have conceived along with the developers of the villages now pour and

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through your careless actions and indecisive words that come out of your decisions.

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It is illogical and counterintuitive that you men stand and pray before the feet of God,

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asking him to usher you to do the will of the people when you fail to meet the basic

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outcries of your constituents. The same constituents who begged and pleaded with you not to increase

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their taxes. The same constituents who have been silenced and essentially gagged and tied when

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they questioned you. I remember that man who was on oxygen, who was taken out by the police

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under the old board. He was on oxygen. He is dead now. The tyrannical rule you hold over

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this county is something you men should have never been allowed to grasp power over. The

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egotism that you have built up in the minds of yourselves is only outmatched by that of your

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authoritarian fears, who regularly and manage their own personal paradise on earth, in which

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they conceal themselves from the monuments as hand of American law.

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However, there is one fatal error in their doctrine, their paradise, unlike that of which God promises on the good earth, for all men to inhabit, is not permanent.

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I saw conclude my address of the following, you men should be humiliated and conscious-stricken.

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You are not worthy of being in the offices you hold.

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You are not worthy of governing from the false lies and promises you use right in your campaigns.

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You have made a name for yourself in this county.

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You may very well be the most hated men in the county.

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As being the three men who can run their own personal Roman Empire, but I assure you

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men, your time, much like that of the Roman Empire will come.

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The people of this county shall reign judgment over you with the same provocative and tumultuous

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attitudes that you yourselves have.

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The turmoil and instability that you men have placed this county into will be undone by

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the will of the people and the people we place into office to make sure our true requirements

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and desires are met to the very end.

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And quite frankly, the marvelous people of this spectacular county,

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and it's true in an imaginative state, would like to see the resignations of all of you before the end of this meeting.

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And I don't know how you can sleep with your self-commissioner, E-Step.

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Anyone else who would like to address the board on any issue tonight?

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Please come forward and give us your name and address, please.

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Good evening.

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My name is Dan Warren, 3087 Bureau Path, the Village of Gilchrist.

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I'm here to speak with regard to the proposal in front of you tonight, with regard to road impact fees.

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I'm surprised I've got a parking spot tonight, compared to the last time I came really early, so

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the developer must be pretty confident on the outcome tonight.

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Anyways, editorial comment.

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The only spec of good news in the developer's office is his recognition of the almost 300 percent differential and disparity between the single-family age restricted fee of $972 and all other single-family in the county at $2,666.

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That's basically just shy of three times the difference.

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is that fair, not by any common sense measure.

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Now let's look at the developer's offer in front of you tonight and what it really represents.

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The developer wants to be seen as the economic savior of Sumter County by eliminating the threat of higher across the board road impact fees for three and a half years.

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All you have to do is read the letter in his proposal and read the description in his newspaper, and you can figure that out for yourself.

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The truth is this. It is not a contribution from the developer. It's not his money that he is agreeing to pay.

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These impact fees are paid by the new home buyers as it should be.

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Any amount of road impact fee will not affect jobs or the developer's marketability of homes.

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He is the market.

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Besides the impact fees are not included in the developer's home prices.

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They show up as a surprise in the closing statement as additional supplemental charges.

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Long after the buyers have signed the purchase contract.

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I think a lot of people miss that.

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They think he's got to build it into his pricing, not true.

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This proposal represents an insurance policy against this commission,

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not to touch any of the 71 impact fee categories for three and a half years.

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He's buying an insurance policy, not to touch them.

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Is this worth giving up the right, which you have always had, just for $400 additional in new units?

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Not even close in my judgment.

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I noticed a peculiar clause in paragraph 5A of the proposed agreement, that is the termination clause of the proposed agreement.

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And I'm just going to read it to you, it's real short.

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It says the agreement shall automatically terminate on October 22, 2024, or upon the

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earlier or current of any of the following, A, the companies, which means the developer.

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If the developer fails to timely pay, the voluntary agreed higher rate set forth in this agreement when due.

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So if he doesn't pay, which would be his choice, the agreement can terminate.

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So my read of that, literally, is he has the ability to terminate this agreement at any time simply by not paying.

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Is the developer really committed to this deal or not if it is true that he can terminate this agreement at any time by simply not paying the additional fee?

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So in summary, I would like to recommend the following for your consideration.

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Number one, don't give away your current right to evaluate and adjust road impact fees.

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You have always had that right, don't give it away.

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Number two, take your time by following through with this board's action about a month ago to analyze the benefits and impacts of raising the impact fees.

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That's what you wanted to do a month ago.

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Three, you can redo the current study to more

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equitably narrow the significant gap between single family age and

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non-age restricted categories permanently by redoing that study.

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And if for some reason you feel compelled to take this type of offer

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from the developer, don't touch it for anything less than $2,000 for an age-restricted fee,

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that would bring you up still only to 75% of non-age restricted and at least it narrows

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that gap. If you accept this proposal, as is tonight, there will be many disappointed and

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upset voters throughout Sumter County. Thank you for the time.

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Anyone else that would like to address the board? Yes, sir.

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Good evening. My name is Phil Montaldel. I'm a fairly newcomer to the religiousman here about a year and a half. Live at 1943, Raheli Road in Linden, the religious Linden. I was here at the last meeting spoke at that meeting also.

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I went over and I went through the documents that were available. I'm speaking in support

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the support of the agreement that's being proposed, and I'll tell you why.

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I wish I had the youth and passion of the young man that stood up here and spoke.

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Very passionate, but I think misdirected, kind of reminded me a little bit back in the days when

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Jim McCarthy was running for President and McCarthy's army was out there.

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you know, beating the ground and talking about good and evil and that type of thing.

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And then I grew up, and here I am, at the twilight of our years, living in the greatest place on Earth, barring none.

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I don't have a prepared speech, but I do have a sense of what I think is happening here.

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When I was doing the last meeting, the conversation was the economic development impact that it would have and

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having this across the board increase in impact fees, because it wasn't targeted, it was just overall.

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Then I read the opinion from legal counsel, and they concurred, you can't just pick and

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you can choose, you have to do it all or none.

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If you're going to raise the impact fees, you can't just buy your action, then you have to do it for the whole county.

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Which was exactly the problem that I spoke out against the last time, as you would be stymying economic development.

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And it would be hurting areas outside the developer's kingdom which doesn't bring me to my point.

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This thing's kind of morphed into a us against the developer type of a thing.

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And it seems like we're just saying, you're bad people.

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You got this developed and you're making a lot of money, God forbid.

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And we want more of it.

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We want, we don't, not the sense to put it in a pocket, but we don't want you to put it in your pocket.

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I think it's a wrong philosophy to begin with.

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The bottom line is when I walked out of the last meeting, I had a sense that it would be highly, highly inequitable and

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wrong to kill the goose just because you wanted one little golden egg.

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Okay, stop everything, hurt the county, because those that lived outside the kingdom would be hurt, but well, you know what, that's just a casualty of war.

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Well, it made ample sense to me that the two parties would come together, recognize that that was not a good thing and I have heard nothing said tonight, yet only a good speaker.

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that addresses a problem of the county white problem.

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In other words, you raise the impact fees, everybody gets hurt.

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The developer comes up and says, hey, look, I understand that, we'll absorb some of that.

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And put it on our development, leave the rest of it alone, which I think is fine.

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That's the way it should be.

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Our county, this is my county now, guys.

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I, this is my fifth final home, and I have, I told my wife, I'm living here at a feet first from the slab, and I love it here.

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But please don't ruin the county by doing that, well, guess what?

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We have a solution to this problem, a very reasonable solution.

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We're talking about nickel-dime stuff.

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Maybe some people said, well, you know, $100 here, $100 here, you know, it's up.

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Well, I come from Illinois, wherever Durscher once said, you know, a billion here and a billion there,

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pretty soon you're going to be talking some real money.

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Well, it's not the case here.

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This is a real, good, sound, equitable resolution to a problem that is facing us.

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I think we can put it into it.

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Just by doing this, the developer will be paying more, they came forth, put this proposal.

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And it's not about, oh, well, now they recognize that they were wrong.

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No, in a negotiation, this is a contract, guys.

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I see you need you to wrap up your comment.

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I'm sorry.

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I do need you to wrap up your comment.

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Okay, I'm sorry.

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I wouldn't keep it in terms of.

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Anyway, I advocate in favor of accepting the proposal.

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I think it's fair and equitable.

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I think we'll do a lot to heal the wounds and get us moving forward.

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Thank you very much.

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Anyone else ever wanted to address the board this evening?

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Yes, ma'am.

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Good

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evening, my name is Deborah Butterfield.

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I live at 2421, Littlestone Terrace in the villages.

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I actually had two items I wanted to speak to.

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One is the next item on the agenda about video streaming board meetings.

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I wanted to strongly encourage your serious consideration of video streaming.

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It has been very difficult for people to access public meetings in the past year of COVID.

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There are a lot of people who don't want to come out in public.

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There isn't as much room as evidenced by the sign out there says maximum occupancy 74.

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I didn't count how many of you there are, but there are 13 seats out here, nowhere near the maximum.

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So I feel like voters are, and residents are not having the kind of access to government as they need to have.

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And I'm actually encouraging the village's district government to consider video streaming as well.

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So I feel very strongly about that.

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Secondly, I think it's a good sign that the developer has offered a compromise.

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But here are my concerns.

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This was brought up at, I believe, your last meeting which was a week ago.

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Two days later you received the letter from the developer that's dated February the 11th.

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Now, we're here one week later and you're considering, as I read the agenda, taking action on this item tonight.

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While I think it's a good sign, I hope it's an opening negotiation, I hope it's not, as we've seen in some other offers, a take it or leave it, offer from the developer, I think it's a starting point.

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But with three new commissioners, and with the very complicated topic of impact fees, and how they relate to the overall tax system, and revenue stream for the county, I think it's too soon to make a decision tonight, I would ask you to listen to people, do more due diligence and then make a decision at a later meeting, thank you.

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Anyone else that would like to address the board on any issue tonight?

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Yes, ma'am.

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Hi, my name is Joan Pike.

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I reside at 3229 southeast 20th Lane Sumterville.

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I'm a native Floridian and my grandchildren are 7th generation Floridians and we love the state.

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However, I have come to a whore the politics in Sumter County.

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You are elected officials by the residents of Sumter County and

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And took a note to work on behalf of the residents, not the developers.

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We cannot stop the growth, however, we can have the growth paid for by the developer.

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I ask why we should all pay, foot the bill for the infrastructure of the villages, and

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the damage it is doing to our roads and environment.

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The impact fee needs to pay its fair share in the one time payment upfront.

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My husband and I, and we're both over 65, are considering building a new residence on land we own in Sumter County.

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Will we get the sweet deal impact fee that the developer is getting?

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No. I implore you to vote to raise the impact fee to a higher fee than the measly 40% they are offering.

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Please do not accept their offer.

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It is wrong and you need to raise it to what you know would be fair to all residents of Sumter County.

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The three new commissioners, you need to keep your promises to us and do what is right.

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Thank you.

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Anyone else who would like to?

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Yes, ma'am.

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I am Liz Roberts and I reside at 3164 Southeast 23rd Place in Sumterville.

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Thank you for this time tonight to speak.

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I have some numbers, I want to run by you and some things I want you to consider.

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It's according to me I learned that the recommendation originally for the impact fees was anywhere between 45% or so.

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So we were at 45, we came down to 40.

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Would that be unsaid, if the villages are offered in 56 to 57% that already gives their offering 12% more than we're at today?

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Would that be unsaid, there's something else.

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I hear so many times about the villages, the villages, the villages.

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I am not employed by the villages, none of my family is employed by the villages.

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I graduated from South Sumter, I am from South Sumter.

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I am for the development in this county, and I am for

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South Sumter County working with the developer.

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With that being said, I want to ask the board if they consider different phases.

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this phase one and phase two or phase three of implication of any kind of fees.

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And if you are familiar with the five to seven tier program as it is based on square footage and footage allowances.

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Since we're looking at new family starting out that want to build a home.

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The square footage would be different than someone that already owns a residence and wants to build a bigger home.

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If the developer is reaching out to you and trying to make some kind of mists with you so that they're going to be a balance within the county, I ask you to actually go in there with an open mind and listen to them.

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The other thing I want to say is the gentleman that brought up the termination on 5A, it clearly states if the developer does not pay, it terminates the agreement.

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If it terminates the agreement, then you can simply have another form and decide what you're going to do with your impact fees.

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Because I don't understand what the big problem is with that part of that termination clause.

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So as a resident that graduated from Sumter County, group in Sumter County, my dad graduated from Wildwood,

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my mom graduated from South Sumter Emotional, we have been million owners in here for over 75 years.

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First, I ask you to reconsider the agreement and also to listen to the developer as well as the county citizens outside.

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Thank you.

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Is there anyone else who would like to address the board tonight?

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Yes, ma'am.

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My name is Sherry DeBall.

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I live at 29.58 in Lurville and I'm here again tonight because as a taxpayer, our side of the story needs to be heard.

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I am asking you all of the following and there are a bunch of questions and I'm hoping that I will get some answers.

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Number one, why does the Morris family get a discount on impact fees?

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Number two, are you offering the same discount to other builders or developers?

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Number three, now that the Moore family has offered to pony up another $400 per unit for a limited time, May 1st, 2021 through October 22nd, 2024, and only with conditions that no other developer steps on their toes, or they will take their money and go back to paying approximately one third of what others are being charged.

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Are you really going to suck up to the Morris family and take this offer knowing that A, it has a short shelf life?

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B, no one else can develop more than 500 units in our county and

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C, at the end of a sweet deal with the Morris family.

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How much of a tax increase should we expect for the tax year?

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24, 2024, 2025, along with a soon to be proposed almost 300% increase in the fire assessment rate,

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which is an increase in tax payers yearly fees.

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We the tax payers have been picking up the lion's share right along and

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it had our taxes, assessments, and fees increased while the developer has not paid any increase or his fair share.

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Does this commissioners group represent the taxpayers for the developer?

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And finally, D, it's one more thing.

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It gets slapped in the face by the developer. But it hurts more to get slapped in the face by the people who are supposed to be representing us. Once again, I ask you for answers to my questions. Would you like me to repeat the questions, I will. We don't need you to. No. And when will I get answers?

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We're going to take all this into consideration in the process of making this decision.

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So I cannot hear from anyone tonight.

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No one will answer any of the things I brought up, is that correct?

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Yes or no, please?

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No, right, not right now.

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Not right now.

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And if I waited like half an hour, maybe?

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We're going to go through a decision-making process.

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I don't know what outcome of it will be, and a determination we've made on issue before tonight.

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So in other words, the public form is just something for us to get up here, get it off our chest, and then you're going to do what you're going to do without getting any answers.

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Once again, you have stuck it to us like you did. Remember the summer you stuck it to us, thank you.

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I will be back.

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Anyone

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else would like to address the board on any issue tonight?

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Yes, sir.

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Good evening.

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My name is Brian Lifsy.

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I live in the village of Elhamra in the villages.

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I'm a start tonight by apologizing to all the commissioners.

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Apparently, I miss the memo that announced that this commission was going to advocate their duties

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and responsibilities to the voters of Sumter County in favor of one individual developer.

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By giving up your authority to set and enforce impact fees, you move from the dog wagging its tail to the tail wagging the dog.

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I admit it is nice to know that the developer will not oppose an increase in impact fees from 972 to 1372.

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too. Of course, your very own 2019 impact study paid for by some of the county voters recommended

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an increase to 2430. And that would be an increase to everyone who pays an impact,

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not just the developer, and it would not be cancelable at the whim of the developer.

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Even better, that does not disregard the ordinance requiring that the impact fee apply across the board to all, not to just one.

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last November, voters in this county elected three new commissioners, based partly on the promise of more backbombing.

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Indications were our new commissioners, which show some grit when dealing with special interest, like the developer.

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Gentlemen, the fact that you are seriously considering this proposal by the developer

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One that makes you look like a lackeys of the developer, in the case there may be less backbone present than voters were led to believe.

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Let me close by offering you three short words of advice.

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Shame on you, thank you.

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Anyone

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else that would like to address, yes, sir?

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Good evening, my name is Andrew Bullardello, I live at 5562 Malachite Terrace in the villages, and I have to apologize.

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I wasn't prepared to speak tonight, I thought I was going to be saving my comments for the July meeting, but I felt compelled.

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I'll keep it short, because I didn't prepare any notes, and I really don't have exact numbers.

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We've heard people speak tonight about, people outside the villages.

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Why do our tax dollars support the villages?

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Why do my tax dollars going into the villages?

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Last week, I ran some numbers through the tax collector's office, and

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again, I apologize because I don't have them with me.

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So I can't give you the exact numbers that will provide it to me, the public records request.

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But the people inside the villages pay approximately $350 million a year into the Sanford County taxes.

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I've never heard one villager's resident complain that $55 million of their dollars are going to the Sanford County school system, and they don't have any children in school.

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So if it's okay for the villager's residents to support the school system, why are the people outside the villages complaining about some of their tax dollars coming back into the villages.

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Personally, I don't care about paying school tax.

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We're a community people.

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This cannot continue to be us versus them.

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I'm fortunate enough that I've been a Florida resident long enough,

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that I know what Sumter County was like before the villages got here.

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It was the poorest county in the state.

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Just about every piece of property had an ag exemption.

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People were paying minimum taxes, just like Jefferson County, Madison County.

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There was no taxes coming in.

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Heck, this building that we're in right now probably wouldn't be here if it wasn't for the Morse family building the villages.

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But yet it seems like people want to cut off the head of the goose that's been laying the golden eggs.

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We have to come together as a county, we are all Sumpter County residents.

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My belief is that this board should accept the villages offer, and then re-address it when that contract is up, and we'll move on from there.

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I'll see you all in July when I've prepared exactly what I want to say.

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Thank you.

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Yes, sir.

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Mr. Chairman, Board members.

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Thank you for the opportunity to speak today.

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My name is Don Wiley.

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I live at 3503, Vail Court in the Villages.

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I am also a small business owner here in Sumter County.

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I don't know.

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I'm not an economist if this is the right answer or not.

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But what I do know right now is that the indecision and delaying this decision,

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one way or the other is hurting this county.

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Businesses don't know which way things are going to go.

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That's going to be to the detriment of everyone in this community.

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And the last thing is the thought that the villages or

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any other business is going to be taxed is a misconception.

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I as a small business owner, just like every other business owner,

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We do not pay a dime in taxes.

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We pass those costs onto our customers.

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Until the point where we can't make a profit, in which case, we go out of business because we're taxed out of business.

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Make the decision whichever way you want, Dolan, but please just make a decision and don't keep delaying this.

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Thank you very much for your time.

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Yes, ma'am.

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My

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name is Marilyn Iskram, 815, Regal Manor Lane, the Villages, good evening commissioners.

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I would like to comment on a phrase that I have been hearing quite a bit lately.

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It goes like this, impact fees are once but property taxes are every year.

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Have you heard that one?

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Well, it's a bit misleading.

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What it fails to recognize is that once commercial and industrial businesses build or lease their facilities, they to become residents.

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As residents, they to pay property taxes on the buildings they own, or those taxes are baked into their lease agreements.

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And those taxes are paid every year.

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The majority of Sumter County is currently residential, and the largest category of land use is retirement homes.

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Individual homeowners, therefore, provide the majority of the county's annual property tax revenue.

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The long range of vision should be to shift the tax burden from homeowners to businesses.

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But first, you have to encourage businesses to make their home here.

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To become residents who contribute their share of property taxes, not just once, but every year.

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You have heard many opinions about the effect of impact fees on business growth.

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You have studied this issue more than anyone in this room.

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There is nothing new that any of us can tell you.

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You are in the best position to make an informed decision.

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But remember, we are now at a crossroad and this county's economy is dependent on your decision.

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The voluntary offer that is under consideration today provides you the opportunity to limit

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Let an impact fee increase only to new homes built in the villages.

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This will produce additional revenue while continuing to encourage business growth.

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The end game is to generate enough tax revenue from businesses every year.

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So that individual property taxes can be significantly lowered.

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That is the critical path in providing long-term tax relief to all property owners.

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But this is all dependent on your ability to motivate businesses to come to Sumter County.

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If you fail, residents of retirement homes will continue to be the county's major source

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of annual tax revenue.

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And I can't think of a single conservative government official in this country who would choose

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to remain in that position.

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Commissioners, I have no doubt that this decision weighs heavy on you.

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I pray that God gives you the strength, the courage, and the wisdom to choose the path that will lead this county towards future economic prosperity.

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Thank you, good luck, and God bless.

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Yes, ma'am.

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Good evening.

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My name is Susan Ridgeway, and I live at 3-7-7-5,

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with one palm away, and the village of Lake Dayton.

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And I come here to know as a concerned resident and taxpayer of Sumter County.

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Normally, I don't get involved in these issues, but I did after attending in 2019,

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the total arrogance and disrespect shown to the residents who came there asking why?

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Why? A 25% property tax increase was necessary.

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The decision had already been made by the board at that time.

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So I started to question why?

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Why not even listen to the residents?

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Why go forth with this 25% tax increase?

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When the following year, the commission at that time was allowing,

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oh, we just reduced property taxes.

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Well, no, you raise them 25% and then you reduce some 4% the next year.

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That's not reducing taxes.

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That meeting, and those meetings, excuse me, I think really opened a lot of people's eyes to the impact that the village's developer has and how they were running the county.

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I love living here, not going to change living here, but it seemed to me that anything that

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benefited the developer, the hell with the rest of us, they were going to get.

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So I started looking into it and I said, well, what do we get?

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There's always a quid pro quo here.

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Why was this tax necessary?

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So I came up on some documents which were made available to me by the county and one was a regionally significant road construction agreement that was approved by the board July 10 of 2018.

421
00:44:06,310 --> 00:44:15,530
In the agreement, it obligates some for county for the next 30 years or until 2038 to do three things.

422
00:44:15,530 --> 00:44:32,010
Reimbursed the villages, companies for the construction expenditures of future new regional roadway segments as noted in exhibits A and B, which is the majority of the roads I do have them here are in the southern village of South of 44.

423
00:44:32,010 --> 00:44:46,070
design permit and build future county roadway, regional redway sections as noted for county road 501 phase 3 and county road 525 E phases 2 and 3.

424
00:44:46,610 --> 00:44:59,750
And whole harmless, the villages company for future widening of US 301 from state route 44 to county road 470 and the future widening of county 470 from 301.

425
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,680
To the late county line. So, what during this 30 years is the villages obligated to provide? Number one, develop a fourth town center in Sumter County. Two, develop the villages of southern oaks as a mixed youth community, for established design standards for the villages of southern oaks, and for design permit and build future new regional roadways, noted in exhibits A and B.

426
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:37,700
Well, if you go back and you look at the villages, promotional materials, there's always going to be a fourth town center.

427
00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:48,500
All right, Southern Oaks area was always going to be developed, and they strictly control how they're going to design their homes.

428
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:56,180
So what did the villages developer give up, nothing that I can see.

429
00:45:56,740 --> 00:46:03,000
So then I started, I attended a meeting in September, last September.

430
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,840
And the reason I went to the meeting was I was reading the agenda.

431
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:12,460
And I saw that there were a lot of contracts that were up for approval.

432
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,480
I think there was about nine of them that day.

433
00:46:15,820 --> 00:46:17,660
And all of them had gone through a process.

434
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:25,500
It was all right on the agenda, and if you go through it, three bid process, they met with

435
00:46:25,500 --> 00:46:36,300
the proposals and the board, Mr. Arnold and his staff were recommending for approval or not approving.

436
00:46:37,500 --> 00:46:43,160
So one of the companies that I saw was there was the village's technology services group.

437
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:52,940
This was a $5.8 million contract that was approved by the board that was not sent out for bed.

438
00:46:52,940 --> 00:47:04,480
that, indeed, going back to 2009, the county's own internal selection committee removed

439
00:47:04,930 --> 00:47:11,260
the village's technology service group from consideration because they had too little

440
00:47:11,260 --> 00:47:13,880
experience and their bid was too high.

441
00:47:14,530 --> 00:47:22,260
In August of 2009, the RFP was canceled for the IT services and wasn't re-issued.

442
00:47:22,260 --> 00:47:36,240
However, in March of 2010, a contract for IT services was approved by the then board of commissioners for the village's technology services group for three years.

443
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:44,480
Following this, Sumter County has consolidated IT services in support by granting multi-year contracts without competitive bidding.

444
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:54,760
to TSG, most recently approving the 5.8 million three year contract extension in September of 2020.

445
00:47:55,720 --> 00:48:07,360
I posed the question to Mr. Arnold, the county administrator, who responded, my question was why wasn't the three-bed process carried out in this case?

446
00:48:08,580 --> 00:48:14,360
His response was, the Board of County Commissioners has the authority as a body to deviate from its established

447
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,620
policies as well as amended policies.

448
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:29,300
So the board of commissioners had set a sound and legal purchasing process in order to give preferences to the village's developer regardless of the quality or the cost of the work.

449
00:48:31,930 --> 00:48:42,700
That same day, the commission approved a contract that was for a one time contract for $22,000.

450
00:48:42,700 --> 00:48:44,800
went through the three-bed process.

451
00:48:45,900 --> 00:48:49,000
So you're going to forgive and you're going to deviate

452
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,840
from the county's own purchasing agreements.

453
00:48:54,500 --> 00:48:56,740
You look at this and you say, why?

454
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:03,520
Here is a company that didn't exist prior to 2009.

455
00:49:03,900 --> 00:49:06,720
It's an IT company that didn't exist, okay?

456
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,540
It is wholly owned by the village's companies developer,

457
00:49:11,540 --> 00:49:22,560
or whatever, and we gave you the board at the time, gave all of this business unbid to

458
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:23,060
the villages.

459
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:32,920
Not only does the villages now provide all of the IT support services and

460
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:38,020
computer servers, but also those of the county property appraisers, the board of elections

461
00:49:38,020 --> 00:49:43,240
and the county tax collector. I don't know about you, but I'm not comfortable with the

462
00:49:43,240 --> 00:49:49,120
the largest single land owner in Sumter County, having this much control over county records.

463
00:49:50,660 --> 00:49:52,320
What should the road impact fee be?

464
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:53,040
I don't know.

465
00:49:53,620 --> 00:49:57,700
I think that it should be more fair than what it is, I think it can be increased.

466
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,000
The villages itself is a juggernaut.

467
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:08,680
People are going to come here and even in their own, the paper just two days ago, the pandemic has not hurt home sales here.

468
00:50:09,180 --> 00:50:12,480
So what do home sales bring into Sumter County?

469
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:17,540
They bring customers like myself who need goods and services.

470
00:50:17,820 --> 00:50:21,200
It's going to continue, businesses are going to continue.

471
00:50:21,500 --> 00:50:32,200
I haven't found one study, and trust me I've been looking, that shows that raising of impact fees has a negative impact on bringing business into an area.

472
00:50:33,940 --> 00:50:36,540
It just doesn't do that, not when you see that.

473
00:50:36,540 --> 00:50:44,740
Okay. I think we have to look past the fair mongering that we're seeing in the daily sun.

474
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:58,280
And you were going to wait until July, I'm saying that in a month, you don't have the information if you didn't have it then that you need now to even consider a 40% on only one entity.

475
00:50:58,660 --> 00:50:59,740
So thanks for your time.

476
00:50:59,740 --> 00:51:00,600
Yes,

477
00:51:13,830 --> 00:51:13,890
sir.

478
00:51:15,740 --> 00:51:16,740
I know you all.

479
00:51:20,020 --> 00:51:20,660
Good evening.

480
00:51:20,900 --> 00:51:21,860
My name is Gilbert Windsor.

481
00:51:21,980 --> 00:51:26,080
I live in the villages, 2, 3, 5, 4, Bramble Terries.

482
00:51:27,340 --> 00:51:33,960
And I've listed, I want to make a statement, if the impact fee was $20,000, does anybody

483
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,700
think the most family is going to stop?

484
00:51:37,060 --> 00:51:37,860
Of course not.

485
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:44,160
The Sumpher County voters in the most recent election mandated that impact fees be increased.

486
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:49,880
As stated, prove in the impact study and also whiff sand a legal challenge.

487
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:59,680
I'm strongly against the proposal dated 211% by the Morris family slash Lester as emptying and

488
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,340
a deceptive charade.

489
00:52:01,620 --> 00:52:06,640
The impact fee should be 2400 hours at minimum for each new home permit issue.

490
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:18,120
This array, this array is an inadequate attempt to attain the equitable fee increase of impact fees.

491
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,020
The taxpayers see through this pretence indifference.

492
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:32,700
This proposal by the Moore's family and Gary Lester is self-importance and continues to fester a lack of trust by the taxpayers.

493
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:41,940
This latest array consists of existing flow of the latest array is consists of an existing

494
00:52:41,940 --> 00:52:49,820
flow of road agreement, which include reimburse impact fees, 25% property tax increase, and

495
00:52:49,820 --> 00:52:58,520
22.5 million dollars that provides an annoying that has been barred by some per county, all earmarked

496
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:02,400
toward cost of roads that should be more family's totally responsibility.

497
00:53:03,940 --> 00:53:14,020
All in money received from the 25% tax increase is dictating it to go to that agreement.

498
00:53:15,500 --> 00:53:16,200
Nothing else.

499
00:53:17,340 --> 00:53:25,340
The previous county commissioners committed tax payers to millions of debt even today cannot justify to the taxpayers.

500
00:53:25,340 --> 00:53:34,620
The previous county commissions were a body that advocated a great devotion to the Morse family slash the Lester's syndicate.

501
00:53:36,220 --> 00:53:46,980
Indeed, Morse family and Lester's candidates in the past election combined spent $214,000 between them to justify their actions.

502
00:53:48,060 --> 00:53:52,660
However, taxpayers saw through this array and removed from office their candidates.

503
00:53:52,660 --> 00:54:01,260
The President Board of Commission voted to table a public hearing to discuss reasoned

504
00:54:01,260 --> 00:54:02,380
existing impact fees.

505
00:54:02,860 --> 00:54:09,400
At that time, the Moore's family, Lester Syndicate, began a fear publicity campaign

506
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,760
to discourage reasoned impact fees.

507
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:19,500
The fear was the workers and their families would lose their jobs because the development

508
00:54:19,500 --> 00:54:20,880
would face competition.

509
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:37,150
To the contrary, on page 62 of the revenue bond of $90 million, the Morse family of CDD-13 assures the bond owners they do not have any competition.

510
00:54:38,430 --> 00:54:52,250
Now, Morse family slash the Lester proposes that they would voluntarily accept a higher impact fee, which is the complete opposite of their fear publicity campaign that was conveyed.

511
00:54:52,250 --> 00:54:54,130
We need 200 workers and her families.

512
00:54:54,550 --> 00:54:58,930
The poor workers believe they're going to lose their jobs, cry, and they've got kids.

513
00:54:59,910 --> 00:55:07,530
And they started a fear, fear, to the most family I asked following.

514
00:55:08,570 --> 00:55:14,750
Why you are obsessed to always question integrity of the taxpayers and

515
00:55:14,750 --> 00:55:17,570
hundreds of workers and their families of some recounting.

516
00:55:17,570 --> 00:55:29,510
The Moore's family lust proposal agreement includes stipulations that the board should reject 100% such, but not limited to the following.

517
00:55:30,430 --> 00:55:37,230
Page one of the agreement, last paragraph, county recognizes and

518
00:55:37,230 --> 00:55:42,110
hereby agrees gives appropriate economic development within Sanford County.

519
00:55:42,470 --> 00:55:45,030
What's appropriate, what is it?

520
00:55:45,030 --> 00:55:48,070
what's appropriate, economic development.

521
00:55:49,090 --> 00:55:54,110
This is the Morse talking, page two of six, first paragraph.

522
00:55:54,330 --> 00:55:58,070
County declared that it is in the public's best interest.

523
00:55:58,670 --> 00:55:59,630
Don't even make sense.

524
00:56:01,510 --> 00:56:06,150
Page three of six, item five C, planned development, project of 500.

525
00:56:06,950 --> 00:56:11,730
Asking the commission to be against development, accept the Morse family.

526
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:19,440
Why does Moore's family lester need agreement?

527
00:56:19,720 --> 00:56:20,460
Why you need agreement?

528
00:56:20,980 --> 00:56:23,700
If we can voluntarily pay, send the money to us.

529
00:56:23,780 --> 00:56:24,600
We'll put them into treasury.

530
00:56:25,540 --> 00:56:26,480
We'll need agreement.

531
00:56:26,820 --> 00:56:28,620
If you want to pay, send it into us.

532
00:56:30,020 --> 00:56:32,900
We'll put it in the county impact trust fund.

533
00:56:33,240 --> 00:56:34,660
We're gladly accept your money.

534
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,520
The board should set a public hearing as soon as possible

535
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,860
to increase the impact fees, it's $2,400.

536
00:56:41,860 --> 00:56:47,200
$100. And remember, it's never the wrong time to do the right thing.

537
00:56:59,700 --> 00:57:00,540
Is there anyone else

538
00:57:00,540 --> 00:57:04,080
that would like to address the board on any issue tonight?

539
00:57:07,570 --> 00:57:07,890
No one?

540
00:57:08,310 --> 00:57:10,190
Is this spring?

541
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:19,400
Okay. I've been getting that all long. He's been bringing people in.

542
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:28,780
So I assume there's no one out there either. Okay. Okay. There's no one else desiring to address

543
00:57:28,780 --> 00:57:32,200
the board tonight, we will close the public forum portion of the meeting.

544
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:39,860
Item three on our agenda tonight is the video streaming of the board meetings, and

545
00:57:40,380 --> 00:57:45,020
Stronger is asking for direction, I'll seem that Gloria.

546
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:49,400
She's not going to be here, she provided this document for that.

547
00:57:50,060 --> 00:57:55,580
I think what's in, and I've given it to the deputy clerk as well as to the commissioners.

548
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:04,480
The clerk at court is responsible for all of the meeting minutes, which also includes any type of video activity.

549
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,820
So she is responsible constitutional officer for that.

550
00:58:08,460 --> 00:58:16,120
Unlike a city where a city doesn't have a separate constitutional officer that handles that that's internal to the city.

551
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:17,980
We do have that as a constitutional county.

552
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:23,620
The concerns that Miss Hayward has raised are towards end of her letter.

553
00:58:23,620 --> 00:58:30,320
What she's looking for is for the county to actually have a county-owned facility where that infrastructure can be put in place.

554
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:39,760
As the board knows, we do use this room, but for regular meetings, we're actually using the regional recreation center.

555
00:58:40,820 --> 00:58:49,900
So that is her position is that the board needs to stick to a particular location so that infrastructure can be installed to be able to accommodate it.

556
00:58:49,900 --> 00:58:56,560
The second issue is, she points to staff to be able to manage that particular process

557
00:58:56,560 --> 00:59:02,800
on her side, to be able to accommodate the video streaming activities for the board.

558
00:59:03,460 --> 00:59:08,500
Obviously she references the ADA criteria, which is also part of the government's obligation

559
00:59:08,500 --> 00:59:14,200
when you're putting information out to the public from a minute standpoint, whether it's audio

560
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:14,940
or video.

561
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:40,040
So my request for direction was intended to have Ms. Hayward here to be able to answer questions that the board may have rather than the prepared statement because any of the direction that you might have on this would be based on the points that she's made a county facility for that permanent location for the meetings and what your direction is on that.

562
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:44,580
not. The other would be then a budgetary or an issue that if the board wants to move

563
00:59:44,580 --> 00:59:51,220
forward without having designated a facility to handle all your meetings then it would

564
00:59:51,220 --> 00:59:53,480
be a budgetary discussion and direction.

565
00:59:53,860 --> 00:59:58,520
Basically what I see from her comments is she's working only with her number hurdles to get

566
00:59:58,520 --> 00:59:59,960
it over to a car.

567
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:20,920
We can't accomplish what we've asked about. So we certainly don't have a county-owned facility that we're going to hold all of our meetings now. There would accommodate that. That would eliminate it right there. That's what the requirement is. We could go back to the county courthouse. Nobody wanted to do that. That was my suggestion.

568
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:29,800
If the board has the desire to move the meetings back to the county courthouse, we certainly can do that.

569
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:29,980
But

570
01:00:33,500 --> 01:00:40,100
with the ADA requirements, you'd also need a signer to stream, too.

571
01:00:41,660 --> 01:00:49,060
Again, that would be, because there are some capabilities within systems to where it

572
01:00:49,060 --> 01:00:50,260
can actually run that.

573
01:00:50,500 --> 01:00:50,780
Okay.

574
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:56,700
Typically, the signer is for people that are actually in-person or in attendance.

575
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:10,820
And so we handle that part from Board of County Commissioners as far as any signers that are needed for the interior audience, but on the live stream video, you're typically going to have something different than that.

576
01:01:11,740 --> 01:01:18,140
And close, simply apply and close captioning may not be enough to meet those requirements.

577
01:01:18,140 --> 01:01:23,700
Again, that's that would be up to the clerk of court in terms of a number of lawsuits

578
01:01:23,700 --> 01:01:28,860
across the state, across other states regarding ADA requirements and there are some

579
01:01:28,860 --> 01:01:36,320
loopholes that many counties and cities have paid substantially because of so that's

580
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,280
just another hurdle that will need to be crossed.

581
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:45,040
But if there's a desire to move the meetings to the county on the location, probably the

582
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:54,780
Not only building we have that would be reasonably accommodative to the size audiences we have would be the courthouse.

583
01:01:55,140 --> 01:01:56,180
Or the fairgrounds.

584
01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:06,420
Or the fairgrounds and the board in 2007, I believe, or six actually did have a meeting, large meeting that was at the fairgrounds.

585
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:11,640
Similar problem that would be associated with even moving to the courthouse has to do with sound.

586
01:02:12,740 --> 01:02:31,440
That's an issue within the courthouse courtroom itself, that's also can be an issue within the fairgrounds, but that's something that, again, if the board directs, that that's where we would head, and we would make sure that we go through the appropriate process, working with the clerk of court to have it set up for meeting all the requirements.

587
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:39,380
That would, again, be a potential issue with a clerk about, you know, scoring equipment

588
01:02:39,380 --> 01:02:40,420
there and so forth.

589
01:02:43,230 --> 01:02:45,270
Well questions and answers right now, I think.

590
01:02:46,770 --> 01:02:52,050
Yeah, I'd like to see some of those questions answered in terms of how we comply to all the

591
01:02:52,050 --> 01:02:58,030
ADA regulations, the costs affected with that and the availability of using one facility.

592
01:02:59,310 --> 01:03:00,310
Mr. Armani.

593
01:03:00,870 --> 01:03:01,310
Yes, ma'am.

594
01:03:01,310 --> 01:03:06,730
I think what Ms. Hayward is trying to accomplish in her letter is actually part of the answer

595
01:03:06,730 --> 01:03:07,430
to that question.

596
01:03:07,950 --> 01:03:13,410
In order to meet the ADA obligations for live streaming of video or audio, the video

597
01:03:13,410 --> 01:03:20,730
or audio caption if it's live, or if it's recorded, has to be of a certain production level

598
01:03:20,730 --> 01:03:27,530
quality in order for closed captioning services to work at the accuracy level that's required.

599
01:03:28,230 --> 01:03:35,010
And that's where the need for the production quality equipment comes in.

600
01:03:35,470 --> 01:03:38,130
So there may be a cost to that that she's not articulated.

601
01:03:38,370 --> 01:03:45,530
But the rationale behind that is rooted in having a quality audio and video capable of meeting the compliance

602
01:03:45,530 --> 01:03:53,370
standards if you're either going to live stream video and audio or even record video for later publication on the website.

603
01:03:53,370 --> 01:03:53,410
Right.

604
01:03:53,950 --> 01:04:01,570
So some of the questions are counting on site location, county staff, additional staff

605
01:04:01,570 --> 01:04:07,030
with production skills, they're just a number of hurdles to get across before we can get

606
01:04:07,030 --> 01:04:09,590
the point that I think we can accomplish this.

607
01:04:09,850 --> 01:04:15,450
I think every board member would like to see this accomplished, but we need to re-sort these

608
01:04:15,450 --> 01:04:18,090
issues and solve them before we get to that point.

609
01:04:18,090 --> 01:04:26,630
So we can take it up at a later workshop and continue working on it and let you all have any ideas tonight.

610
01:04:27,710 --> 01:04:31,930
We'll continue to work on it and provide additional information and options for the board to consider.

611
01:04:32,170 --> 01:04:32,350
Okay.

612
01:04:34,410 --> 01:04:38,830
Okay, the next item is public work department update, Mr. Arnold, I think that's yours.

613
01:04:39,350 --> 01:04:47,110
Yes, sir, and I'll be brief in regard to this, each year we sort of go through each of the different departments and share some of the things that have been taking place.

614
01:04:47,110 --> 01:04:49,190
and also direction where we're headed.

615
01:04:49,530 --> 01:04:53,210
This starts feeding into the budget preparation process.

616
01:04:54,070 --> 01:04:56,270
So under the design division functions,

617
01:04:56,270 --> 01:04:57,510
there's just a couple of highlights,

618
01:04:57,790 --> 01:04:59,030
not to go through all the bullet lines.

619
01:05:00,090 --> 01:05:02,110
But line-of-side reviews, for example,

620
01:05:02,210 --> 01:05:04,430
you've recently seen some communication related to

621
01:05:04,430 --> 01:05:06,630
looking at candidate vote in 14, 117.

622
01:05:07,070 --> 01:05:10,050
That's a line-of-side issue that we get from time to time.

623
01:05:10,650 --> 01:05:13,990
That is from our review or from customer requests.

624
01:05:15,210 --> 01:05:20,270
The utility permits, and there's something that this division does as well.

625
01:05:21,030 --> 01:05:25,530
And if you look at the graphic, you can see that there was not a whole lot of activity

626
01:05:25,530 --> 01:05:31,410
in 2012, 13 or 14, and that's because the village of this was coming to close at, say,

627
01:05:31,470 --> 01:05:37,370
you're out of 44, as they moved into acquiring what is now the village of Finney.

628
01:05:37,650 --> 01:05:41,150
You can see where some of the development started occurring.

629
01:05:41,350 --> 01:05:42,990
You can see the approved permits go up.

630
01:05:42,990 --> 01:05:49,230
And so this is this graph sort of follows and it's indicative of the volume of growth activities when you start seeing utility permits

631
01:05:49,230 --> 01:05:55,510
A road is constructed of the utilities need to be extended to be able to accommodate that and you can see the bit of the decline

632
01:05:56,790 --> 01:06:04,370
In 2020 and a lot of that had to do with COVID related issues where some of the development did slow up and related to utility permits coming in

633
01:06:04,370 --> 01:06:10,390
So one of the next steps which I simply do a review of any type of code updates related standards

634
01:06:10,390 --> 01:06:14,830
We'll also make sure that we're aligned with Landfellma code related to the engineering standards.

635
01:06:15,450 --> 01:06:19,450
So that's one of the next steps that that division is moving forward.

636
01:06:20,170 --> 01:06:23,010
The other is the advanced traffic management system.

637
01:06:23,810 --> 01:06:29,410
So this is a project that the board has already heard that we're looking at being able to have better flow.

638
01:06:29,870 --> 01:06:34,790
For example, on poor 66, through traffic signals, you wind up gaining capacity when you do that.

639
01:06:35,410 --> 01:06:41,410
There is one outstanding license agreement that we're waiting on to be able to move forward

640
01:06:41,410 --> 01:06:42,130
with that project.

641
01:06:42,610 --> 01:06:47,110
If we don't get that resolved in a timely fashion, we're going to drop that portion out of

642
01:06:47,110 --> 01:06:56,090
the entire project because it is grant funded with local match, and so DOT is becoming impatient

643
01:06:56,090 --> 01:06:59,450
because we've not started moving forward while we've been waiting on that.

644
01:06:59,450 --> 01:07:05,210
So that's something that we are considering perhaps moving off of that piece of that overall

645
01:07:05,210 --> 01:07:08,770
advanced traffic management project and moving forward of the balance of it.

646
01:07:10,190 --> 01:07:14,910
There are several construction division projects that have been completed.

647
01:07:16,050 --> 01:07:20,530
One of the most recent ones is the signalization at Preston Drive in 466.

648
01:07:21,670 --> 01:07:27,030
Some of the things that are moving forward right now that you see updates from me are on 478

649
01:07:27,030 --> 01:07:31,750
on the work activity from 301 all the way to the Southern Limits of City of

650
01:07:31,750 --> 01:07:32,250
Center Hill.

651
01:07:33,230 --> 01:07:37,390
Canner Road 525V, the board has recently approved that construction work activity

652
01:07:37,390 --> 01:07:41,310
to move forward other than the CSX crossing, CSX will be handling that.

653
01:07:42,350 --> 01:07:45,530
And you've also seen where our team's been working with the church.

654
01:07:45,950 --> 01:07:48,350
That's near the intersection of Morrison 466.

655
01:07:48,550 --> 01:07:52,150
That one actually got pushed off of that particular meeting with the church.

656
01:07:52,710 --> 01:07:55,990
Design division was working with the church during the design phase.

657
01:07:55,990 --> 01:08:01,250
and now we're into the construction phase and our construction team is working with them

658
01:08:01,250 --> 01:08:06,030
in regard to addressing any concerns that they have. This has to do with extending turn lanes and

659
01:08:06,030 --> 01:08:11,610
again it's be able to put additional capacity at that intersection and of course the board just

660
01:08:11,610 --> 01:08:17,950
recently approved the contract to move forward with the signalization at US 301 and 472. So this

661
01:08:17,950 --> 01:08:23,150
division as soon as it moves beyond the design and gets to the bid stage that's when the construction

662
01:08:23,150 --> 01:08:27,050
construction division picks it up and carries it through the end of construction.

663
01:08:27,910 --> 01:08:33,770
The facilities and parks division, there are several completed projects that the boards recently did some ribbon cuttings

664
01:08:33,770 --> 01:08:43,730
at the north public works annex addition, fire station number 33, and then we've got an upcoming ribbon cutting at the JL expansion.

665
01:08:44,630 --> 01:08:49,710
So those are large capital projects that are facility related that this division handles.

666
01:08:49,710 --> 01:08:52,310
But they also have a parks and recreation activity.

667
01:08:53,250 --> 01:08:58,270
And so those are some of the things where we've worked on a long time making sure that

668
01:08:58,270 --> 01:09:02,510
the different types of parks have the consistent level of service.

669
01:09:03,250 --> 01:09:07,590
So for example, one that's somewhat unique is Lake O'Homca, it's a large regional park.

670
01:09:08,110 --> 01:09:12,650
But when you start getting to the smaller parks that have just a boat ramp, making sure that

671
01:09:12,650 --> 01:09:15,110
there's bathroom facilities that are present, those type of things.

672
01:09:15,590 --> 01:09:22,190
some of the next steps, and actually on your agenda for next Tuesday, we receive proposals for

673
01:09:23,030 --> 01:09:28,110
facility condition assessment, and so that's where we have, for example, even this building

674
01:09:28,110 --> 01:09:34,790
we did a condition assessment, we wound up doing some improvement work on the stucco on the outside

675
01:09:34,790 --> 01:09:39,610
of the building and did some repainting, so it's looking at things that we may have missed in

676
01:09:39,610 --> 01:09:44,650
regard to our preventive maintenance activities, so this helps us line up for the next predictive

677
01:09:44,650 --> 01:09:47,370
and maintenance and also for budgeting processes.

678
01:09:47,850 --> 01:09:53,070
You see some other issues that are in here also looking at our energy star portfolio,

679
01:09:53,430 --> 01:09:58,530
where we're also looking at energy related reductions for our different facilities.

680
01:10:00,110 --> 01:10:07,090
Operations division. As we have the regional roads going through the board for acceptance,

681
01:10:07,090 --> 01:10:12,570
that adds additional paved miles that the county maintains. There's a lot of additional work

682
01:10:12,570 --> 01:10:19,790
that operation division gets into, but one of the next steps is we're still moving forward with the signage updates within the villages,

683
01:10:20,310 --> 01:10:28,910
making sure that we're having the appropriate wording, reflectivity on the signs as well as the stacked street signs, so that's still moving forward.

684
01:10:29,910 --> 01:10:40,290
We also handle the driveway permit activities, and that's not just for the county, but also for three of the five cities we handled the driveway permit reviews for them.

685
01:10:40,290 --> 01:10:44,340
They also handle solid waste.

686
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:51,360
So one of the things that after we had this cancellation of a household hazardous waste

687
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:53,560
because of COVID, but then we wound up having it.

688
01:10:54,080 --> 01:11:02,020
We had vehicles stacked all the way back to Powell Road, trying to get into Lake Humpka for

689
01:11:02,020 --> 01:11:02,240
that.

690
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:09,300
So that's certainly a call for budget consideration coming on to move to three collection

691
01:11:09,300 --> 01:11:10,220
events per year.

692
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:27,000
As we have a lot of development that is occurring, a lot of times homeowners when they take over the house there may be leftover paint and that becomes an issue to where some don't realize that you can actually get it dried and if you get it dried, you can actually dispose it normally with your other trash.

693
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:36,040
But there's other household hazardous waste that people do flock to this event because they're trying to do the right thing and we're trying to accommodate it.

694
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:42,640
But there's cost and going to three collection of events per year is going to increase the cost for that particular service to the customers.

695
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:49,600
We do have an obligation under Florida Statute to pursue a 75% recycling goal.

696
01:11:49,700 --> 01:11:54,340
There's no teeth other than you have to report and explain how well you're doing.

697
01:11:55,500 --> 01:12:03,680
And so we, for 2019, we were at 52%, we have been as high as 72% in 2017.

698
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:10,800
But 2017, we actually picked up two significant recycle activities that we don't necessarily want.

699
01:12:11,660 --> 01:12:18,880
So Irma, when it hit, all of the wood debris, we had it chipped and it was used as daily cover at the landfill.

700
01:12:19,260 --> 01:12:24,060
And so, therefore, it was reused and therefore it has a count for the recycling activity.

701
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:32,700
For I-75 DOT, did a full resurfacing and all the milling that came out of that was reused

702
01:12:32,700 --> 01:12:36,200
for other work activities, so that counts as recycling.

703
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:43,320
So it is not just what this organization does, but actually plot the curves throughout the county that we can actually capture in the reports.

704
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:46,820
The village is recently stopped doing recycling.

705
01:12:47,100 --> 01:12:49,540
How does that tie in?

706
01:12:49,780 --> 01:12:59,360
So that actually is still a recycled activity because rather than it going into a landfill, it's actually going to energy conversion.

707
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:03,180
And so you're actually reusing that material.

708
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:10,140
The issue in the recycling is if it's simply going to a dump, then it has ended its use.

709
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:14,640
If it's moving for some other purpose, that is where you're getting the recycled benefit.

710
01:13:15,300 --> 01:13:15,500
Thank you.

711
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:18,940
We also have the Stormwater Management Plan.

712
01:13:19,700 --> 01:13:21,980
Watershed Canal Maintenance and Piping Special Repair.

713
01:13:22,180 --> 01:13:26,760
Of course, Piping Special Repair is the big focus that we do have, where we have underground

714
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:28,660
systems versus rural ditch sections.

715
01:13:28,660 --> 01:13:34,020
And so we've done a really good job of staying up on what are the conditions and doing the repair

716
01:13:34,020 --> 01:13:36,900
But we're going to continue to do that as pipe does age

717
01:13:36,900 --> 01:13:41,540
We want to catch it before it gets to a catastrophic bubble and has an impact on the road

718
01:13:42,060 --> 01:13:48,560
So that is the very brief update in regard to what public works operation divisions are doing and some of the next steps

719
01:13:49,940 --> 01:13:53,580
Any questions from any commissioners from the start on all this

720
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:59,020
Okay, if not we'll accept that update and we'll move to item five

721
01:13:59,020 --> 01:14:04,120
which is some county-related FDOT projects and FDOT funding for county projects.

722
01:14:04,420 --> 01:14:16,140
Thank you. This was a request because we know that we have commissioners that are participating on the Lake Sumter Metropolitan Planning Organization, and this sort of brings it back, I'll call it home in regard to those work efforts.

723
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:24,520
So you can listed the list of priority projects because that's really what is called near term related to grant funding.

724
01:14:25,420 --> 01:14:33,120
The big news in here is the big push that we've had outside of the MPO activity is to get

725
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:38,820
DOT to refocus on a commitment for the widening of 301 from 44 to 470.

726
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:43,700
And so that is a big exciting news is they actually have funding allocated for the design

727
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:45,760
for that activity.

728
01:14:45,900 --> 01:14:47,960
And that's a first large step.

729
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:53,660
The next large step would be funding the right-of-acquisition and then the final large step would

730
01:14:53,660 --> 01:14:59,700
be funding the construction. You can also see where we have other roads that are in that

731
01:14:59,700 --> 01:14:59,980
I'm sorry.

732
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,940
There's a priority such as Marsh Bend. The reason why that's important is that's one of the obligations in the regional road agreement that the county has. So one of the benefits when that second amendment to the regional road agreement, rather than it being a required four lane facility, it gave flexibility to the board to choose whether it really need to be a four lane facility. So as we've been looking at the modeling at a state district level, we believe that it may be able to be

733
01:15:29,940 --> 01:15:35,720
a two-lane facility, maybe one roundabout south of Corbin, all the way down to the future

734
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:38,020
roundabout at Central Parkway in Marshbin.

735
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:42,800
So that reduces our original projected costs that were out of the preliminary engineering

736
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:49,820
study, and also gets us in a position to be able to target county incentive program grant,

737
01:15:50,420 --> 01:15:50,920
SIGP.

738
01:15:51,260 --> 01:15:57,220
So that's one of the ones that we are looking at budgeting for the design, moving forward

739
01:15:57,220 --> 01:16:02,260
with the design on our side so that we can pursue the grant funding for the construction.

740
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:07,300
But I was going to ask if anybody has any questions about the list of priority projects.

741
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:08,980
Any questions?

742
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:10,260
Commissioner of the staff.

743
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:11,900
Thank you.

744
01:16:12,020 --> 01:16:16,900
So there is a linkage from that, as I stated, Marsh Bend is a regional road.

745
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:23,620
So that will present to the village's company's regional road agreement and the first two amendments in regard to an update.

746
01:16:23,620 --> 01:16:30,880
I've given the board a narrative, sort of picking out each one of those rows and I just want to highlight a couple of narrative pieces in there.

747
01:16:31,900 --> 01:16:41,720
One is, you will have coming before you, probably targeting March, all of the Megas and phases will be coming to you from

748
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:52,180
State Route 44 all the way to Bexley Trail, and so those are gone through the punch list and we're doing the final review aspects of that.

749
01:16:52,180 --> 01:17:01,000
So we'll be bringing that to the board for the board to consider accepting and then the one-year warranty starts at that point in time on that all those phases.

750
01:17:01,540 --> 01:17:08,840
We'll also be bringing Warm Springs Avenue from the term pi to the more boulevard roundabout phase.

751
01:17:09,620 --> 01:17:14,220
And again, we'll take on that responsibility for the one-year warranty after that.

752
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:19,740
So some of these things are coming to completion in the regional road agreement process.

753
01:17:20,500 --> 01:17:26,200
Also, we did receive related to number 11 the bridge connecting back to the across the term pipe.

754
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:43,400
That's going to be through an agreement with the term pipe and the county because the term pipe is going to be looking for the county, obviously, as in the agreement to take the responsibility not only for the construction of the bridge, but also for the long term care maintenance of the bridge.

755
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:48,000
very similar to when the second bridge was added at Worms Springs of the

756
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:52,880
term pike then the county became responsible for the maintenance. The term

757
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:56,160
pike's doing that for all of the bridges along the term pike where they have

758
01:17:56,160 --> 01:18:00,480
been the responsible party for it as soon as there's a change even if they're

759
01:18:00,480 --> 01:18:03,660
doing the work they're requiring the local governments to take on the

760
01:18:03,660 --> 01:18:08,260
responsibility for the long-term care of the bridge. So that's a contract that

761
01:18:08,260 --> 01:18:12,580
the attorney is reviewing right now and we will be bringing that to the board

762
01:18:12,580 --> 01:18:16,260
forward in their future for consideration as part of that obligation of the regional

763
01:18:16,260 --> 01:18:17,760
road agreement to move forward with it.

764
01:18:20,550 --> 01:18:26,980
The last part of this update is those projects of the counties directly responsible

765
01:18:26,980 --> 01:18:30,320
for the design, the rideaway position, and the construction.

766
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:38,300
So when it is the boulevard from 44 down to the Megasin roundabout, that is a county's responsibility.

767
01:18:38,300 --> 01:18:48,560
We are at the point in time to where, but the parcels affected by the sovereign state's submerged lands issue.

768
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:56,720
We're going to have the engineer give us the final parcel data so that we can get our

769
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:59,500
prazer to work on the appraised calls.

770
01:19:00,060 --> 01:19:05,620
The county attorney's office will be working on the incentive offer agreement as well as preparing for

771
01:19:05,620 --> 01:19:09,900
for the imminent domain proceedings as they are required for that process.

772
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:11,840
So that is moving forward.

773
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:17,520
Very well, I've already talked about Canary Road 525V, and I've already talked about Marshbin Trail,

774
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:20,580
that next phase activity, that would be the county's responsibility.

775
01:19:21,260 --> 01:19:25,660
So I'm happy to answer any questions that the board has related to the update on the regional road agreement.

776
01:19:26,180 --> 01:19:27,340
We'll remember any questions.

777
01:19:28,180 --> 01:19:28,440
That's right.

778
01:19:29,820 --> 01:19:34,020
Okay, move to item 7, cash flow analysis and grab budget amendment.

779
01:19:34,020 --> 01:19:34,920
So thank you.

780
01:19:35,820 --> 01:19:39,380
This is one of the things that, when we're talking about the regional road agreement,

781
01:19:39,660 --> 01:19:46,760
and I believe the time of that contract, there are estimates that are associated with the cost for

782
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:52,160
the reimbursement to the villages for the construction of those roads that are listed in the regional

783
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:57,720
road agreement, as well as those specific obligations that the county has for the design,

784
01:19:57,840 --> 01:19:59,080
right, and position and construction.

785
01:20:00,580 --> 01:20:09,320
Over time, it obligates in the agreement gas taxes is the only obligation within the regional

786
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:09,840
road agreement.

787
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:16,280
But the gas taxes are not sufficient to be able to carry the weight of that agreement based

788
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:18,000
on the estimates over time.

789
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:24,800
So it does require road impact fees to also cover that difference.

790
01:20:25,460 --> 01:20:31,820
There's also, as we've already done, as an organization, contributed money from General

791
01:20:31,820 --> 01:20:37,380
Fund to help have the initial cash flow to be able to meet the five-year reimbursement

792
01:20:37,380 --> 01:20:44,080
at the point in time of the acceptance of a road phase, but also in the future, there

793
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:46,600
may be an obligation for that.

794
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:52,500
What I've proposed in this draft budget amendment is any of the additional cash flow, I'm sorry,

795
01:20:52,500 --> 01:20:58,260
cash carry forward from last fiscal year, not only from secondary trust, which is a gas tax

796
01:20:58,260 --> 01:21:07,200
fund, but also from the general fund, that that go into fund 106 to obligate towards that long-term

797
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:15,880
debt. By doing so, it pushes off any estimation of general fund having to come in to support the

798
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:20,200
difference between what gas tax and road impact fees is not picking up until

799
01:21:21,460 --> 01:21:26,060
2027. It also reduces that dollar figure for the balance of that agreement

800
01:21:26,060 --> 01:21:34,480
from 27 on. This is recalibrated every year fully and we just went through the

801
01:21:34,480 --> 01:21:42,700
full recalibration of this. We updated as we get a new project in that approved

802
01:21:42,700 --> 01:21:48,260
the budget under the regional road agreement, those have been coming under the estimates that I have.

803
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:50,040
So that's good news.

804
01:21:50,860 --> 01:21:55,760
The actual construction invoices that have been coming in for those approved budgets have been

805
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:57,760
coming under the approved budget.

806
01:21:58,120 --> 01:21:58,820
That's good news.

807
01:21:59,780 --> 01:22:06,100
So that is part of that calibration process is to refine the estimates to the budgets and

808
01:22:06,100 --> 01:22:13,320
the budgets of the actuals, so that we have the cash necessary to be able to meet that

809
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:14,640
obligation when it comes to.

810
01:22:15,480 --> 01:22:20,300
But calls we've been able to and this proposed draft budget amendment to push it off to

811
01:22:20,300 --> 01:22:28,540
27, you can see that have also allocated in that proposal additional funds for future grant

812
01:22:28,540 --> 01:22:33,960
matches for grants to move forward with some of the roads that are not only in the regional

813
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:36,360
road agreement but also outside of the regional road agreement.

814
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:38,920
So that's important.

815
01:22:39,060 --> 01:22:43,300
We don't want to miss the opportunities that DMT may have for grant funding but it does

816
01:22:43,300 --> 01:22:44,300
require a local match.

817
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:50,260
Also in there is a million dollars that's discretionary for the board to sign to those

818
01:22:50,260 --> 01:22:54,520
things that are not local match for road improvement projects.

819
01:22:55,340 --> 01:23:01,720
So it's not a lot but this is also a consistent activity that we've had in the past of bringing

820
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:08,000
forward having this consideration for the board to look at how we can address any additional

821
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:10,940
resurfacing road work activity that might be necessary.

822
01:23:11,780 --> 01:23:14,100
And so that's the reason why this is for direction.

823
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:20,380
This is what I have proposed to be able to meet long-term obligation under the regional

824
01:23:20,380 --> 01:23:25,160
road agreement also to set the stage for having money for local match, for grant projects

825
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:29,440
for roads, and then also a million dollars for current fiscal year to start moving forward

826
01:23:29,440 --> 01:23:32,680
with some resurfacing priorities under the Payment Management Program.

827
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:35,920
Any questions or comments?

828
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:38,920
I have a comment Mr. Chair.

829
01:23:40,620 --> 01:23:46,480
I like the foresight of going forward with it and projecting out what it's going to

830
01:23:46,480 --> 01:23:46,660
be.

831
01:23:47,060 --> 01:23:49,100
I do see some shortfalls in the graph here.

832
01:23:50,300 --> 01:23:57,620
But the other thing I like is the local resurfacing issue and I want to see us pay more attention

833
01:23:57,620 --> 01:24:06,940
to the local roads that need to be resurfaced budget capably being able to do it, so I think that's an important piece.

834
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:08,700
Thanks for bringing that up.

835
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:27,780
I agree. I think it's a good plan and the way you've took the additional funds and hopefully you can generate less impact on general fund revenue over the next several years as opposed to the impact fees.

836
01:24:27,780 --> 01:24:34,300
other road monies that are coming in so I think it's a good strategy and again

837
01:24:34,300 --> 01:24:40,740
like I say recalibrate every year but this one time it's good strategy I think

838
01:24:40,740 --> 01:24:48,000
to do it this way I agree see our 477 will be to top of one of the top of

839
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:52,580
the roads on top of my list for that million dollars discretionary money everybody

840
01:24:52,580 --> 01:24:54,920
I don't know how to have some, so we don't know.

841
01:24:55,460 --> 01:25:02,740
And to that point, we do have an objective criteria in regard to the pavement management program.

842
01:25:03,610 --> 01:25:05,720
I'll share that list.

843
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:11,880
But again, there are going to be other, I'll call it preferential issues that the board members may have.

844
01:25:12,260 --> 01:25:15,640
We're giving you the objective list of following the criteria.

845
01:25:16,100 --> 01:25:20,220
If you want to deviate from that, I just need the direction for that.

846
01:25:20,220 --> 01:25:26,380
just like Kenny Road 477 as an example, and so I didn't present that to you because the

847
01:25:26,380 --> 01:25:32,020
first step is, is the funding proposal appropriate, and if so, then I'll come back with a greater

848
01:25:32,020 --> 01:25:34,080
detail related to the million dollars for that.

849
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:41,340
If everybody's in agreement, I think I would entertain a motion for approval of the budget

850
01:25:41,340 --> 01:25:41,780
amendment.

851
01:25:42,220 --> 01:25:47,120
So, Chairman, that's going to be on your February 23rd.

852
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:56,180
You just gave me the direction, I just want to make sure that I've explained it, but this will be on your agenda for Tuesday to actually consider the budget a minimum.

853
01:25:56,340 --> 01:25:58,540
Okay, because we can do it in a special way.

854
01:25:59,540 --> 01:26:06,260
You can, but it was actually draft, I do want to finalize that before it goes on your agenda.

855
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:08,640
Finalize it, and we'll deal with it next week.

856
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:12,840
There's no desire to move forward, so we have a desire to move forward.

857
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:13,220
Right.

858
01:26:13,540 --> 01:26:14,580
Good place and only agenda.

859
01:26:14,980 --> 01:26:15,440
Thank you, sir.

860
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:16,960
Okay.

861
01:26:17,100 --> 01:26:21,340
Automate is a resolution to amend and correct an error in closing and vacating right away

862
01:26:21,340 --> 01:26:24,720
or Eastman upon the petition by Eugene and Charlene Cason.

863
01:26:25,260 --> 01:26:28,080
I think this is the case you discussed with me that-

864
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:31,160
Yes, so we're trying to accommodate a customer who's trying to close on the property.

865
01:26:31,460 --> 01:26:34,400
And there's a script that's related to the legal description from 1993.

866
01:26:35,260 --> 01:26:38,720
And so this is the fastest way to be able to correct that.

867
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:42,960
And it's acceptable to the customers trying to close and their legal representation.

868
01:26:45,460 --> 01:26:48,980
So it's no question to entertain a motion to approve the resolution.

869
01:26:49,420 --> 01:26:50,220
So moved.

870
01:26:51,340 --> 01:26:53,060
Second motion by commission search.

871
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:54,240
Second by commission from Miller.

872
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:55,320
All in favor say aye.

873
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:55,880
Aye.

874
01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:57,380
Motion.

875
01:26:58,160 --> 01:26:58,840
Any objection?

876
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:00,400
Motion passes unanimously.

877
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:09,560
The item eight is a voluntary road in fact fee increase agreement and we've heard most discussion tonight on that.

878
01:27:10,480 --> 01:27:17,520
I'll have the agreement before you tonight, so we'll move to board discussion on it.

879
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:23,800
Is there any, or I'll entertain the motion.

880
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:25,500
I have some discussion, Mr. Chair.

881
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:30,880
Mr. Estep, I would like to thank Mr. Arnold for bringing this alternative opportunity to the board.

882
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:36,160
Additionally, I would like to thank Dr. Gary Lester and the villagers for submitting this contract.

883
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:43,840
With that being said, I have concerns that the contract submitted by Mr. Lester on February 11th.

884
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:56,240
Two items specifically, I believe the amount of the increase is insufficient to show support to all of the Sumter County tax payers that are currently carrying additional costs that should be borne by new development.

885
01:27:57,580 --> 01:28:05,340
Secondarily, I believe the additional restrictions identified in item two of the executive summary places the BOCC in an untenable position.

886
01:28:05,980 --> 01:28:11,200
These restrictions may remove the flexibility of the board to be able to meet the needs of its constituents.

887
01:28:13,020 --> 01:28:16,860
Yeah, the comments on the Mr. Miller?

888
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:19,860
Thank you, Mr. Miller.

889
01:28:20,820 --> 01:28:31,100
I too, you know, at the workshop, we looked for alternatives and asked Mr. Arnold to look at possible ways of doing it.

890
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:38,740
So I want to thank you and the staff for the work that you've done and I just want to digress a little bit back to

891
01:28:38,740 --> 01:29:07,520
to comment that one of our people made and something that I've noticed for years while I was coming to commissioners meetings long before I ever decided to run, is when questions are asked in public forum, and they're never answered, it gives residents a sense of their questions don't mean anything, and I really think we need to look at a policy as a board,

892
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:16,980
that if there's questions listed, that we listen to them and provide as good an answer as we can provide at the time,

893
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:26,440
or say we'll get back to you with answers, because again, if you ask a question, you feel ignored if it's never answered.

894
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:30,200
So I'd like us to consider that as a board number one.

895
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:31,580
I don't disagree with that.

896
01:29:32,700 --> 01:29:33,220
Disagree?

897
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:34,580
I don't disagree with that.

898
01:29:34,580 --> 01:29:35,080
Okay.

899
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:37,040
I only heard the word disagree.

900
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:40,800
But I think we need to look at that for our residents,

901
01:29:41,100 --> 01:29:43,820
because if any of our residents had word meeting,

902
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:47,460
sometimes it's a simple question with a complex answer.

903
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:50,100
It is some that was asked here tonight or that,

904
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:55,200
or what I did at previous commission or meetings in another state.

905
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:57,520
I'd say, can we let everybody speak?

906
01:29:57,520 --> 01:29:59,380
will write your questions down.

907
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:29,360
May be there is duplicates and will answer them at the end of the public forum. And sometimes we can do that. Sometimes it's going to take more research and get back to them. But if that person knows we're getting back to them because their questions important, we can still we're getting back to them. Certainly, you want to kind of do a short, unofficial policy, but just as a point of order. That was number one.

908
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:40,760
And, you know, over the last couple days since the publication of this agreement came out, I stopped counting after 300 emails.

909
01:30:41,940 --> 01:30:47,220
I answered about 250 of them, and I apologize for the other 50, but I haven't gotten to them.

910
01:30:49,940 --> 01:30:56,200
There's a lot of, as I read this contract, and three things stuck up to me.

911
01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:59,080
the stipulations of termination.

912
01:31:00,980 --> 01:31:06,380
The one I really can't figure out is it's almost like if I don't pay my mortgage, I own the house.

913
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:17,220
So if I don't pay my bill, the contract's terminated, I could never agree to a contract like that.

914
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:23,500
I also agree with Commissioner Reston, but I think the rate proposed is way too low.

915
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:28,860
And I think it ties our legislative hands for three and a half years.

916
01:31:29,700 --> 01:31:34,340
And in that respect, I have a problem with the contract as proposed.

917
01:31:34,940 --> 01:31:37,060
Okay. Any other comments?

918
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:37,440
Yes.

919
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:38,540
Commissioner Miller?

920
01:31:38,940 --> 01:31:44,940
I agree with Commissioner S. Depp and awardee said, I did some simple math and

921
01:31:45,660 --> 01:31:48,340
understand I'm a simple person, so a simple math works for me.

922
01:31:48,340 --> 01:31:54,940
but there's 79,689 parcels in Suntra County that pay real estate taxes.

923
01:31:55,840 --> 01:32:05,120
If you divide the best case scenario here, the highest estimate range of revenue increase at $965,800,

924
01:32:06,260 --> 01:32:12,140
divided by at $79,689, that means we'd all get a benefit of about $12 and 12 cents a year

925
01:32:12,140 --> 01:32:15,960
in a real estate tax cost reduction, and that's just not enough.

926
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:23,740
And for the other reason they mentioned what's in the contract would tie our hands for three-and-a-half years, I would not be able to accept that either.

927
01:32:24,740 --> 01:32:25,720
Any other comments?

928
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:35,640
I'll entertain a motion on the voluntary road impact fee increase agreement by the villages.

929
01:32:36,900 --> 01:32:42,960
Mr. Chair, I'd like to make a motion to reject the offer by Mr. Gary Lester, Vice President of the villages for the community relations.

930
01:32:43,620 --> 01:32:52,000
I have a motion by the commissioner asked to have the reject is there a second then I have a second by commissioner Miller all in favor say aye aye aye

931
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:56,920
I put the same side no motion carries four to one

932
01:33:01,300 --> 01:33:04,200
Mr. Chair I have a little follow on with that if I may

933
01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:15,780
With Mr. Arnold I'd like to request that Mr. Arnold prepare an impact he compares some document similar to the one the board had previously provided us

934
01:33:15,780 --> 01:33:18,080
three economic development director.

935
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:24,840
And I think you're still working on that incremental document.

936
01:33:26,020 --> 01:33:29,940
I had Paul's for consideration of this, but yes, I'll be back on that.

937
01:33:30,300 --> 01:33:35,280
Yeah, and this document would contain but not be limited to 5% increments in the 10-day

938
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:40,820
allowable report from the current 40% mark, which has been mentioned in our meetings on

939
01:33:40,820 --> 01:33:43,240
page 23, that report to the 100% mark.

940
01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:47,300
And I'd like to have five percent increments that will delineately

941
01:33:47,300 --> 01:33:53,740
eat the market ability is highly competitive, competitive, comparable, and not comparable.

942
01:33:54,780 --> 01:33:59,100
These benchmarks will be compared against total impact fees for all contiguous counties.

943
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:05,020
Sumter County currently only utilizes the road impact fee on new development.

944
01:34:05,860 --> 01:34:09,800
Other counties may have multiple comprehensive impact fees for

945
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:16,060
fire law, recreation, et cetera, that will have to be rolled together and then considered

946
01:34:16,060 --> 01:34:21,080
as one since ours is only one with the road impact fee to make it comparable.

947
01:34:22,180 --> 01:34:28,440
And then secondarily upon delivery of the prepared impact fee comparison chart, the impact

948
01:34:28,440 --> 01:34:33,220
fee issue will be placed on the first workshop date for discussion after that's delivered

949
01:34:33,220 --> 01:34:34,060
to the commissioners.

950
01:34:34,060 --> 01:34:39,180
This workshop will also be utilized to set a future public hearing date at that time.

951
01:34:40,980 --> 01:34:46,760
Currently, impact fee question has been tabled under after July 1st at an early meeting.

952
01:34:47,480 --> 01:34:49,460
That's why in the first shot I'm requesting that.

953
01:34:50,480 --> 01:34:57,020
I'm going to bring it up on our shop last time, once you get this document finished and we can discuss it.

954
01:35:00,380 --> 01:35:03,080
I'd like to make a couple of comments.

955
01:35:05,440 --> 01:35:10,060
Really up to tonight and tonight we've heard a lot of misinformation.

956
01:35:11,220 --> 01:35:12,980
It's not been correct.

957
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:18,340
There was never any recommendation from any person or company.

958
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:22,560
It said we should charge 100% of what's legally possible.

959
01:35:23,140 --> 01:35:24,080
That is not true.

960
01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:26,060
We had a study.

961
01:35:26,060 --> 01:35:38,380
We asked the study what was legally possible, we asked them then what would they recommend to put us in a similar financial and economic development position as we were.

962
01:35:39,340 --> 01:35:52,480
They recommended 45% at a later time, we lowered that to 40% because we wanted to become economically competitive and remain that way.

963
01:35:53,220 --> 01:35:56,400
We did have a tax hike, no one likes a tax hike.

964
01:35:56,960 --> 01:36:04,860
Before the tax hike, we were the fourth lowest combined taxing unit out of 67 in the state of Florida.

965
01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:13,500
After the tax hike, we are now the ninth lowest out of 67 counties in the state of Florida.

966
01:36:14,740 --> 01:36:19,840
The fact is, is wherever people came from, they chose to come here.

967
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:25,520
and regardless of where they came from in very few circumstances have they come

968
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:32,500
here with a increased tax load. If you come from the north east or west your

969
01:36:32,500 --> 01:36:38,480
taxes were much higher than they are in Florida period. We are the ninth lowest out

970
01:36:38,480 --> 01:36:49,100
of 67 counties. Our current plan has no plan for any further tax increase for the

971
01:36:49,100 --> 01:36:56,400
That holds out, because we're already talking about taxing this and taxing that, and then combining all that.

972
01:36:56,740 --> 01:37:07,360
Well, taxes are taxes, and the one thing that people have not come to accept or realize or even think about.

973
01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:13,000
Sumter county is the oldest median age in the United States.

974
01:37:13,540 --> 01:37:17,060
The oldest county in the whole country is Sumter County.

975
01:37:17,060 --> 01:37:26,840
If you think we can play games with our taxing schedule, our fee schedules, and still draw in economic development.

976
01:37:27,220 --> 01:37:34,700
Still have companies come here when they see that we are the oldest county in the country, not just the state of Florida.

977
01:37:35,540 --> 01:37:36,940
So we have some challenges.

978
01:37:37,440 --> 01:37:43,320
There's 18,000 people that commute in and out of Sumter County every single day.

979
01:37:43,320 --> 01:37:50,380
Today, I would be much more comfortable if we were talking about how do we build housing for those people?

980
01:37:50,520 --> 01:38:00,840
How can they bring their families right here to Sumter County instead of this back and forth, back and forth with really no facts behind it.

981
01:38:00,980 --> 01:38:05,000
The misinformation has been absolutely horrible.

982
01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:13,820
And the cat calling continues time and time again from the same people who will come up and

983
01:38:13,820 --> 01:38:22,180
spew the same thing every meeting and then they like to think that's true, but what they're saying many times is not the truth.

984
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:23,780
Thank you.

985
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:25,980
Anyone else have any comments?

986
01:38:27,420 --> 01:38:31,720
If not, we'll move to item 10, which is the State of Emergency Decoration Extension.

987
01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:52,540
I've heard a couple of times now about the IT contracts.

988
01:38:53,140 --> 01:38:56,920
I'm going to ask if we can consider putting those out for bid.

989
01:38:56,920 --> 01:39:01,360
This board has a fiduciary responsibility to the assistance of Sumter County.

990
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:03,200
Are we getting the best price?

991
01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:04,820
Can we get a better price?

992
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:06,720
Can we get better service, et cetera, et cetera?

993
01:39:06,820 --> 01:39:10,460
All those questions be answered in the contracts just to review them.

994
01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:11,620
What's out there?

995
01:39:11,820 --> 01:39:12,420
What's available?

996
01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:17,440
Is there something available that's better, cheaper, or what?

997
01:39:17,980 --> 01:39:20,300
But I'd like to see those looked at.

998
01:39:20,300 --> 01:39:28,800
But number two, I'd like to see an animal advocacy group put together.

999
01:39:29,900 --> 01:39:37,140
We've got way too much animosity between animal services and the animal advocates in Sumpra County.

1000
01:39:37,960 --> 01:39:45,740
Too many things have been done in the past that do not help, both groups have a reason to be in existence.

1001
01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:54,940
I would like to see Steve Kennedy, Monica, my wife Angie came for it in Caron Tagler meet

1002
01:39:55,460 --> 01:39:59,340
to discuss what can be done to improve the conditions.

1003
01:39:59,820 --> 01:40:05,700
I would like to ask for Commissioner Search to mediate that group if he's willing.

1004
01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:09,080
This is news to him, I'm blind sighting him with this.

1005
01:40:10,260 --> 01:40:11,100
Yes, you are.

1006
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:14,940
But with your background, well, if you don't want to do it, I don't.

1007
01:40:16,020 --> 01:40:22,120
I'm okay. I'm saying he's got a background in mediation and negotiating and there's some

1008
01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:27,840
strong personalities in that group so that he can keep peace in the meeting, I would like him to

1009
01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:35,640
mediate that group. I can't use your number. I'm going to legal statutory route. Some of the things

1010
01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:42,880
you're talking about may not be legal. Okay, on the first item, the IT, we do have contracts with this

1011
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:50,880
organization, so I would need to ask if there's consensus of the board to do what Commissioner

1012
01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:52,600
Miller has requested or not.

1013
01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:53,580
No.

1014
01:40:54,160 --> 01:40:54,260
No.

1015
01:40:54,740 --> 01:40:55,020
Okay.

1016
01:40:55,260 --> 01:40:56,780
So there's not consensus here.

1017
01:40:58,490 --> 01:41:00,980
The contract of obligation is for how long.

1018
01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:08,680
I'll have to pull that out, but I believe it's 2022, if I'm not mistaken, for the current

1019
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:09,200
contract.

1020
01:41:09,200 --> 01:41:13,280
And it is our intention to put that out for request for qualifications.

1021
01:41:14,060 --> 01:41:18,500
And the reason for that, you're not talking about buying a tire for a truck, right?

1022
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:23,300
This actually has to do with our cybersecurity associated with part of our operations.

1023
01:41:24,300 --> 01:41:25,700
It is intricate.

1024
01:41:26,600 --> 01:41:33,720
So that's the process that I've already stated to the commissioners during the meeting when this was brought up.

1025
01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:44,580
when you know first came into office and that is the intent is to put that out for request for qualifications as we get towards the end of the current contract permit.

1026
01:41:45,080 --> 01:42:00,640
Mr. German, it should be noted that that company is doing an outstanding job and always have our tap not they have gotten a supervisor elections many kudos from the state.

1027
01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:06,520
We're in the electing process for detecting possible bad activities.

1028
01:42:09,160 --> 01:42:12,400
And every constitutional officer is happy with their service.

1029
01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:15,140
Commissioner Gilpin, I need to agree with you on that.

1030
01:42:15,540 --> 01:42:24,040
But I think for the public, it's always good to put it out for bid to see where they stand and who else is out there.

1031
01:42:24,360 --> 01:42:26,880
It's just good business.

1032
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:49,320
I think when we make a decision here in the contract, we need to honor that contract until there's been a breach of that contract or there's something that's been referred to us by the county attorney and where the county administrator is too many times.

1033
01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:55,520
Is that contract comes back up, your intent is to put it on the street?

1034
01:42:55,800 --> 01:43:08,760
Yes sir, we're planning to request for qualifications, we're planning to do that in advance of the termination contract because it takes time to go through a review, to qualify, to go through the development of a contract so that you're ready for a transition.

1035
01:43:09,780 --> 01:43:16,020
Again, this is, it is very complicated because of the level of service and the type of service that's being provided.

1036
01:43:16,020 --> 01:43:22,780
And the second item, Commissioner Miller brought up was an animal advocacy group with a number

1037
01:43:22,780 --> 01:43:26,500
of names that he would like to see on that, is there a consensus for that?

1038
01:43:31,390 --> 01:43:32,170
And I would say no.

1039
01:43:34,110 --> 01:43:38,130
So do you want to bring that to a meeting for a vote?

1040
01:43:38,630 --> 01:43:43,770
I would like to see that come up in another workshop, some place to talk about it, if we're

1041
01:43:43,770 --> 01:43:44,510
going to talk about it.

1042
01:43:44,510 --> 01:43:54,010
I'm not sure that doing anything more than that we've already done through resolution and

1043
01:43:54,010 --> 01:43:59,710
changes is warranted until we see how strong it would you get with Commissioner Miller

1044
01:43:59,710 --> 01:44:06,250
and y'all discuss and provide the board with some outline of what he's proposing as a group

1045
01:44:06,250 --> 01:44:14,590
and how they would work between our animal control operation, the advocacy groups, and

1046
01:44:15,190 --> 01:44:16,270
so we do have-

1047
01:44:16,270 --> 01:44:18,250
So everybody would understand what's being proposed.

1048
01:44:18,670 --> 01:44:19,250
I would-

1049
01:44:19,250 --> 01:44:21,410
There's a couple of things, first of all.

1050
01:44:22,470 --> 01:44:26,430
We do have a workshop that's planned for May 4th, I believe, as the day.

1051
01:44:27,030 --> 01:44:30,970
And that's when we will be talking about, again, just like we do with public works, we'll

1052
01:44:30,970 --> 01:44:34,610
be talking about mosquito control, animal services, a couple other operational issues.

1053
01:44:34,610 --> 01:44:46,570
to let you know where we're at, some of the next steps that we are ready for, and we've even gone through the best practices book that the commissioners had.

1054
01:44:47,150 --> 01:44:58,130
We've gone through a comparison and so we are going to be ready to be able to talk about one of the next steps that we think are viable that are also consistent with that checklist of what line.

1055
01:44:58,130 --> 01:44:59,890
the emphasis.

1056
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:29,360
Advocate group, component, and the names that Commissioner Miller has raised, there's a conflict that's associated with that. There's a conflict that's associated with Sunshine Law issues that we've already run into. The problem that we had was I had a meeting with Commissioner search and he relayed his conversation with Angie Foxx that was advocating for this very solution to be presented to the board.

1057
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:37,640
I then had a directive email from Commissioner Miller that said go and do this and use Commissioner

1058
01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:43,780
search for that specific purpose. That indicates clearly that Angie Fox is a conduit of communication

1059
01:45:43,780 --> 01:45:52,960
between two commissioners, which is violation of open meetings. So my concern is that where

1060
01:45:52,960 --> 01:46:00,500
you have something that, unfortunately, I became a witness to a violation that becomes

1061
01:46:00,500 --> 01:46:10,820
an ethics-related issue. If that is filed by someone and the investigation occurs, my

1062
01:46:10,820 --> 01:46:17,560
concern is that you may want to wait until that activity has happened and the investigation

1063
01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:24,740
has been concluded before you're involved, anything to do with Angie Fox, who's currently acting as a conduit.

1064
01:46:25,720 --> 01:46:30,800
So that's the first legal issue that I had to talk to the county attorney about.

1065
01:46:31,380 --> 01:46:34,460
And that's the advice was this had to be disclosed at tonight's meeting.

1066
01:46:34,860 --> 01:46:42,260
That's really the reason why the county attorney's here is for that disclosure purpose because we have an obligation to the board as a whole.

1067
01:46:42,260 --> 01:46:50,860
We support each individual commissioner, but that action puts the board and jeopardy related

1068
01:46:50,860 --> 01:46:55,320
to any vote that you may take that's associated with that violation of the open meeting small.

1069
01:46:56,320 --> 01:47:01,080
So that's reason why this particular issue that's been brought up is tied directly to that

1070
01:47:01,080 --> 01:47:05,900
open meeting violation, and therefore I would suggest that you do not take any action on

1071
01:47:05,900 --> 01:47:09,420
that until that issue of violation has been resolved.

1072
01:47:09,420 --> 01:47:12,780
In light of that information, no action will be taken tonight.

1073
01:47:13,660 --> 01:47:19,880
The next item on the agenda is to adjourn, so I'm going to declare this meeting adjourned.