1 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,930 Worth 21st, 20, 26. And I am calling the Sun Prairie 2 00:00:13,970 --> 00:00:15,830 utilities commission meeting to order. 3 00:00:16,870 --> 00:00:17,970 Cody, can you call the roll? 4 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:20,670 Benedict here, Jacobs. 5 00:00:22,030 --> 00:00:23,670 Jacobs Andres here. 6 00:00:24,500 --> 00:00:25,770 Christenson here. Well, Vedvik 7 00:00:27,030 --> 00:00:27,600 Stocker 8 00:00:29,070 --> 00:00:31,030 what here 9 00:00:32,700 --> 00:00:34,300 and you do have quorum. Okay. 10 00:00:35,370 --> 00:00:37,270 And we will have a couple of others joining us 11 00:00:37,370 --> 00:00:39,030 online. So we're good to go there. 12 00:00:39,970 --> 00:00:43,670 Item two citizen appearances public comment. I believe we received 13 00:00:43,670 --> 00:00:45,000 no public comment. So. 14 00:00:46,030 --> 00:00:48,930 In the honor of my predecessor, the great tradition. What 15 00:00:48,930 --> 00:00:50,200 anyone here care to be a citizen? 16 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,230 Yes, Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a few comments. 17 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:55,030 First of all. 18 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,000 Andy had a very busy week last week on Wednesday. 19 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,270 I believe it was, he did a presentation. 20 00:01:03,170 --> 00:01:06,030 On behalf of Sun Prairie utilities down at the Wisconsin. 21 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,570 Association of American waterworks. 22 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,600 And then he followed that up by. 23 00:01:13,470 --> 00:01:17,300 Hustling up to Shaboygan for the w P P I 24 00:01:17,300 --> 00:01:20,230 annual meeting, where Andy was presented with a. 25 00:01:21,070 --> 00:01:24,500 Certificate of graduation from the w P P I leadership 26 00:01:24,500 --> 00:01:24,970 program. 27 00:01:26,570 --> 00:01:30,200 And not to be done out outdone our general manager. 28 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,930 Also did a presentation up at the w P P. 29 00:01:36,100 --> 00:01:39,470 On data centers and all the work that she and 30 00:01:39,470 --> 00:01:40,500 others have done on. 31 00:01:41,270 --> 00:01:44,270 Preparing Sun Prairie for that situation. 32 00:01:45,070 --> 00:01:49,030 And then also was elected to the executive committee of 33 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,830 w P P I a sec, a successful reelection. 34 00:01:53,470 --> 00:01:55,300 So congratulations to both of those. 35 00:01:56,300 --> 00:01:58,000 Members of our management team. 36 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,700 Well, excellent. Stankey John. 37 00:02:01,470 --> 00:02:06,230 Stankey for the report. Congratulations to you, Jill. Obviously congratulations 38 00:02:06,230 --> 00:02:08,970 to Andy for graduating and doing all that good work. 39 00:02:11,030 --> 00:02:11,570 Any other 40 00:02:12,300 --> 00:02:12,670 citizen appearances. 41 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:15,770 Is hearing none moving along. 42 00:02:16,870 --> 00:02:18,100 Item three consent agenda. 43 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,100 Do I hear a motion to approve the consent agenda? 44 00:02:24,930 --> 00:02:26,930 I'll make a motion to approve. I'm. 45 00:02:28,700 --> 00:02:33,430 Yeah, I'll second Stocker Benedict move. Stocker seconds. Do we 46 00:02:33,430 --> 00:02:34,970 hear, are there any comments? 47 00:02:35,930 --> 00:02:40,100 Comments hearing none. All those in favor, all those in 48 00:02:40,100 --> 00:02:41,830 favor, please indicate by saying aye. 49 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,200 Hi. Hi those, those opposed. 50 00:02:46,230 --> 00:02:49,030 The aye have it. And the consent agenda is approved. 51 00:02:50,100 --> 00:02:54,800 Moving along item four, a consideration discussion of possible action 52 00:02:54,830 --> 00:02:56,300 to repeal and recreate. 53 00:02:57,070 --> 00:02:59,830 City ordinance title 13 for public services. 54 00:03:01,070 --> 00:03:02,970 Services, Jill, what are we doing here? 55 00:03:03,970 --> 00:03:07,470 Okay. So at our last meeting, the section 13 was 56 00:03:07,700 --> 00:03:07,970 approved. 57 00:03:08,930 --> 00:03:13,800 However, since then we recognize that theft or interference with 58 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,000 our, our water meters and electric meters was not. 59 00:03:17,270 --> 00:03:18,300 As well detailed as we'd like. 60 00:03:20,100 --> 00:03:22,770 Also any kind of damage to our water meters or 61 00:03:22,770 --> 00:03:23,600 to our electric meters. 62 00:03:24,700 --> 00:03:26,970 Access to the electric meters in particular. 63 00:03:27,970 --> 00:03:29,830 Was not identified in the ordinance and then. 64 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:35,000 R PCs. So irks, excuse me. PRVs so. 65 00:03:35,970 --> 00:03:38,800 If there is pressure over 80 PSI. 66 00:03:39,770 --> 00:03:42,800 PSI they're required to have a PRV that is actually 67 00:03:42,930 --> 00:03:45,030 a requirement through the billing code, but both it was 68 00:03:45,030 --> 00:03:46,600 appropriate to include that with the. 69 00:03:48,030 --> 00:03:50,200 Ordinances. So I guess what I'm looking for is. 70 00:03:51,570 --> 00:03:54,100 To authorize moving forward. 71 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:55,570 To the council. 72 00:03:57,630 --> 00:03:58,930 Recommend Vista city council for. 73 00:04:00,030 --> 00:04:02,830 Repeal and recreation of section 13. 74 00:04:03,770 --> 00:04:05,570 After the city attorney reviews the ordinances. 75 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:07,970 Ordinances Christenson moves. 76 00:04:08,870 --> 00:04:11,430 Moves to repeal and replace. 77 00:04:12,970 --> 00:04:15,230 Title 13 after legal review. 78 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:17,800 As proposed by staff. 79 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,000 I'll second Jacobs will second. 80 00:04:22,830 --> 00:04:25,100 Nope. We're you're good. You can have it. Jacobs. . 81 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:27,300 Discussion. 82 00:04:30,570 --> 00:04:32,600 Jill, any questions for Jill about this? 83 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:37,930 Hearing none. 84 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,770 I will call the question. All those in favor, please 85 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:42,970 indicate by saying aye. 86 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,930 Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. 87 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:48,230 All those opposed. 88 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:50,700 The aye. Have it. 89 00:04:51,830 --> 00:04:55,470 Moving along item four B consideration discussion and possible action 90 00:04:55,470 --> 00:04:56,430 regarding SPU. 91 00:04:57,470 --> 00:04:58,930 U sale of utility assets policy. 92 00:04:59,770 --> 00:05:01,930 John. Did you have something you wanted to say about 93 00:05:01,930 --> 00:05:02,000 this? 94 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,500 Mr chairman, I would like to table this. 95 00:05:07,370 --> 00:05:09,470 Matter talked with 96 00:05:10,230 --> 00:05:12,830 management a little bit, and I think we can simplify. 97 00:05:13,830 --> 00:05:16,030 The document and policy a little bit. 98 00:05:17,070 --> 00:05:19,070 And so I'd like to table it until the next 99 00:05:19,070 --> 00:05:20,030 meeting. If we could. 100 00:05:21,070 --> 00:05:25,970 Okay. Any discussion about the motion to table? Actually, we 101 00:05:25,970 --> 00:05:26,570 need a second. 102 00:05:27,930 --> 00:05:30,930 I'll second, we have a motion and a second, any 103 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,600 discussion about the motion to table. 104 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:35,230 This until next month. 105 00:05:39,230 --> 00:05:42,000 I'm assuming from staff, no concerns, a tabling. It, no 106 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,670 concerns whatsoever. Actually I think that's the right. 107 00:05:45,070 --> 00:05:46,930 Approach. Okay. Okay. 108 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,670 All those in favor of tabling item four B, please 109 00:05:51,930 --> 00:05:52,700 indicate by saying aye. 110 00:05:53,870 --> 00:05:55,470 Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. 111 00:05:56,300 --> 00:05:56,930 Those opposed. 112 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,700 The eyes have it moving along. Item four C update 113 00:06:01,700 --> 00:06:04,000 on sale of S P U building on main street. 114 00:06:05,070 --> 00:06:06,070 Jill, what is going on? 115 00:06:07,170 --> 00:06:09,370 At 1 25, I just. 116 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,600 Wanted to share that this one to plan commission and 117 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,930 it also went to city council. It was unanimously approved 118 00:06:15,030 --> 00:06:17,800 for sale at both of those meetings that now starts 119 00:06:17,830 --> 00:06:18,200 the clock. 120 00:06:19,230 --> 00:06:20,000 So based on 121 00:06:21,070 --> 00:06:26,030 a, now it's really the due diligence and clearing contingencies 122 00:06:25,930 --> 00:06:26,600 by the buyer. 123 00:06:27,970 --> 00:06:29,930 If we were to go out to the actual end 124 00:06:29,930 --> 00:06:32,970 of the contingency period, that would be January 13. 125 00:06:34,070 --> 00:06:37,930 2027, hopeful that we're able to actually expedite that and, 126 00:06:37,930 --> 00:06:40,500 and clear those contingencies more quickly and close before that 127 00:06:41,070 --> 00:06:41,470 we're working. 128 00:06:42,030 --> 00:06:46,300 With the buyer's agent right now, and also wanted to 129 00:06:46,300 --> 00:06:47,000 share that. 130 00:06:47,970 --> 00:06:50,230 The boys and girls club may use the facility. 131 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,700 Temporarily too. They've received a sale, a semi trailer of 132 00:06:54,700 --> 00:06:57,970 donated goods. We're working with the city attorney and the 133 00:06:57,970 --> 00:06:58,770 broker's agent. 134 00:06:59,370 --> 00:07:00,800 To make sure that that's acceptable. 135 00:07:01,670 --> 00:07:03,270 But looking to do that and have them cleared out 136 00:07:04,170 --> 00:07:07,030 mid-October. So if we're able to pull that together, 137 00:07:09,230 --> 00:07:09,930 questions for Jill. 138 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:11,030 Or comments? 139 00:07:16,170 --> 00:07:19,800 Jill. Are you comfortable with the boys and girls club 140 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:20,430 using. 141 00:07:21,470 --> 00:07:22,570 Part of the building temporarily. 142 00:07:23,770 --> 00:07:26,830 I am. I was concerned initially, but worked with city 143 00:07:26,930 --> 00:07:29,070 attorney's office with a number of waivers. And as long 144 00:07:29,070 --> 00:07:31,470 as we hear back that the broker's agent through the, 145 00:07:31,470 --> 00:07:31,770 you know, 146 00:07:31,970 --> 00:07:35,030 the buyer's agent, I should say the buyer's okay with 147 00:07:35,030 --> 00:07:37,230 that we'll move forward in that direction, but wanted to 148 00:07:37,230 --> 00:07:39,100 make sure that there was good awareness and that everybody 149 00:07:39,100 --> 00:07:40,000 was comfortable with the. 150 00:07:40,300 --> 00:07:40,930 Idea. Okay. 151 00:07:42,630 --> 00:07:44,270 Any other questions from the commission? 152 00:07:50,070 --> 00:07:50,930 Okay. Moving along. 153 00:07:51,970 --> 00:07:54,000 Stankey yeah, I just wanna say, excuse me, excuse me, 154 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,270 chair. Jill. Yeah. I want to Stankey for doing that. 155 00:07:56,670 --> 00:07:58,100 I mean, they were in a, they were in a 156 00:07:58,100 --> 00:07:59,770 pinch where, you know, they. 157 00:08:00,100 --> 00:08:02,970 Had this generous offer, I believe from ACE hardware. 158 00:08:03,770 --> 00:08:05,030 Where an entire semi load of. 159 00:08:06,030 --> 00:08:08,230 Things that they could use and what they can't use. 160 00:08:08,230 --> 00:08:08,930 They're going to. 161 00:08:09,830 --> 00:08:12,200 Distribute to the community, but they had no place to 162 00:08:12,430 --> 00:08:14,030 unload it and stage it. So. 163 00:08:15,300 --> 00:08:16,670 Stankey very much for 164 00:08:17,470 --> 00:08:18,070 allowing them to do that. 165 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:21,570 Okay. Absolutely. 166 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,100 Stankey moving along. Item four D update on S P 167 00:08:26,100 --> 00:08:27,770 U billing review, Jill. 168 00:08:28,700 --> 00:08:30,100 Back to you. Okay. Stankey. 169 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,030 So, I guess the main thing that I would like 170 00:08:33,030 --> 00:08:35,500 to share is that the last two months we did 171 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,970 actually waive late penalties. Now this month, when we invoices 172 00:08:38,970 --> 00:08:39,200 went. 173 00:08:39,570 --> 00:08:41,970 Out. We were able to do that in a timely 174 00:08:41,970 --> 00:08:44,270 manner. The last two months we had some issues, one 175 00:08:44,300 --> 00:08:46,930 the first one for the first month. So two months 176 00:08:46,930 --> 00:08:47,200 ago, 177 00:08:47,970 --> 00:08:51,430 was actually related to file size and the timing we 178 00:08:51,430 --> 00:08:53,270 had with infos send. And that was kinda the first 179 00:08:53,270 --> 00:08:54,970 time we'd run through where we had the full. 180 00:08:55,970 --> 00:08:57,970 Entire one month billing cycle or one. 181 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,800 Effort of far as a billing cycle for all customers. 182 00:09:02,030 --> 00:09:03,670 Customers the next month we did run into a timing 183 00:09:03,770 --> 00:09:06,670 issue internally. So we've now backed ourselves back through that. 184 00:09:06,670 --> 00:09:09,430 You know, our meters are red on January one or 185 00:09:09,430 --> 00:09:09,930 not January. 186 00:09:10,230 --> 00:09:13,070 One, excuse me, on the first of each month. And 187 00:09:13,070 --> 00:09:15,570 then we Oneida have the bill, the invoices, basically out 188 00:09:15,570 --> 00:09:17,570 to our customers by the 10th, and then they get 189 00:09:17,570 --> 00:09:17,970 20 days. 190 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,100 To pay this month, we were very successful in that 191 00:09:21,100 --> 00:09:23,770 we were able to do that without any is issues, 192 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,670 but we are kind of working through to make sure 193 00:09:25,670 --> 00:09:26,500 that doesn't happen in the. 194 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,430 Future. We are continuing to work with w P P 195 00:09:29,430 --> 00:09:30,470 I on the billing review. 196 00:09:31,370 --> 00:09:33,200 And I would say that we're honing documents to be 197 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,100 able to have better transparency between us. 198 00:09:36,100 --> 00:09:37,930 And their efforts on that. So I think things are 199 00:09:37,930 --> 00:09:38,370 going well. 200 00:09:39,370 --> 00:09:41,230 And we're continuing to make improvements. 201 00:09:43,500 --> 00:09:45,370 Commission any questions or 202 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:47,000 concerns for Jill. 203 00:09:53,870 --> 00:09:55,700 Hearing none in the room and none. 204 00:09:56,700 --> 00:10:00,100 Online, moving along, item E update on. 205 00:10:01,070 --> 00:10:02,930 2026, B water and light. 206 00:10:03,930 --> 00:10:04,770 Utility revenue bonds. 207 00:10:06,230 --> 00:10:08,370 ROSE is that you, or is that Jill? I guess 208 00:10:08,370 --> 00:10:10,700 I'll leave it up to you. it's probably a 209 00:10:10,700 --> 00:10:12,300 little bit of both. I would say it's very much 210 00:10:12,470 --> 00:10:14,100 ROSE. I just included a. 211 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,970 Memo in there regarding our Moody's ratings and kind of 212 00:10:16,970 --> 00:10:18,200 what we learned through that process. 213 00:10:19,300 --> 00:10:20,970 I guess I'll just kind of kick it off and 214 00:10:20,970 --> 00:10:21,770 then turn it over. ROSE. 215 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,500 There's a real opportunity. I would say for us to 216 00:10:24,500 --> 00:10:27,030 be upgraded, we were not in the Moody's review, but 217 00:10:27,030 --> 00:10:28,970 they kind of walked us through a variety of different 218 00:10:28,970 --> 00:10:30,470 things as far as how they evaluat. 219 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,270 Evaluate us. We also recognize that in some calculations we 220 00:10:34,270 --> 00:10:37,270 calculate things. One way they calculate them very differently. 221 00:10:38,230 --> 00:10:40,070 There's an opportunity. I think there for us to actually 222 00:10:40,070 --> 00:10:42,500 do all the calculations. So it's consistent with the way 223 00:10:42,500 --> 00:10:45,000 in which they review it. And then also there's a 224 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:45,970 cash on hand kind of. 225 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,230 Aspect that I think we'll have to consider at another 226 00:10:48,230 --> 00:10:48,930 upcoming meeting. 227 00:10:50,170 --> 00:10:52,030 Now whether or not we want to go and. 228 00:10:53,070 --> 00:10:56,230 Really have routine cash on hand up to 250 days, 229 00:10:56,370 --> 00:10:58,100 but they basically said that if we chose to do 230 00:10:58,100 --> 00:10:59,100 that, we would be upgraded. 231 00:11:00,300 --> 00:11:02,100 Upgraded as we go through this and do our metrics 232 00:11:02,470 --> 00:11:05,230 to align with Moody's. I think we really Oneida understand 233 00:11:05,370 --> 00:11:07,100 more fully too, if we're upgraded. 234 00:11:08,300 --> 00:11:10,370 Upgraded truly does that trans you know, translate to. 235 00:11:11,170 --> 00:11:14,000 A a reduced interest rate. And if so, what kind 236 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,470 of, you know, dollars does that really look like? But 237 00:11:16,470 --> 00:11:19,070 I think there's some opportunities there and even. 238 00:11:19,570 --> 00:11:20,830 So much as like how we wanna do our C 239 00:11:20,930 --> 00:11:22,000 I P currently we have a 10. 240 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,230 Year, I desire to go to a 20 year. If 241 00:11:24,230 --> 00:11:26,370 we get go to a 20 year that does upgrade 242 00:11:26,370 --> 00:11:29,000 our Moody's ratings potentially as well. They look at all 243 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,800 of those things. So I think there's just some opportunities 244 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:31,030 as. 245 00:11:31,370 --> 00:11:34,000 We move forward now that we have a better understanding 246 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,600 of how Moody's is evaluating us to be able to 247 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,300 align those things and move those forward. 248 00:11:40,030 --> 00:11:42,370 I do think we Oneida look at our cash on 249 00:11:42,370 --> 00:11:45,270 hand, our, our liquidity policy that we have in place. 250 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,830 Because right now we have, when ROSE Les looked at 251 00:11:49,830 --> 00:11:51,270 it, we were at 155 days. 252 00:11:52,100 --> 00:11:54,370 But once we get these bond proceeds and then also 253 00:11:54,370 --> 00:11:55,370 with the sale of the building. 254 00:11:56,300 --> 00:11:58,500 Were likely going to be over 200 days. And our 255 00:11:58,500 --> 00:12:00,700 current policy said that we would have a 200 days. 256 00:12:00,870 --> 00:12:02,700 So I think we'll wanna look at that and evaluate 257 00:12:02,700 --> 00:12:03,270 that more closely. 258 00:12:04,300 --> 00:12:05,830 Decide how we wanna look at and what our goals 259 00:12:06,030 --> 00:12:06,070 are. 260 00:12:07,170 --> 00:12:09,200 Future state, but I think there's more information to, to 261 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,300 come related to that. So I just wanted to share 262 00:12:11,300 --> 00:12:12,000 that information. 263 00:12:14,070 --> 00:12:15,930 Questions or comments for Jill? 264 00:12:17,030 --> 00:12:20,430 John. I, I do appreciate that you put the. 265 00:12:21,270 --> 00:12:22,100 Documents in here too. 266 00:12:23,830 --> 00:12:26,000 To allow us to read and see what was there. 267 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,230 As I went through there. 268 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:30,500 Their criteria. 269 00:12:31,830 --> 00:12:34,000 Of course I'm a bit biased, but I think. 270 00:12:35,370 --> 00:12:37,670 As you do, as you indicated, I thought we would 271 00:12:37,670 --> 00:12:38,300 be double a. 272 00:12:39,170 --> 00:12:41,700 AA based on their grid and everything that's in there. 273 00:12:42,970 --> 00:12:45,370 I found it interesting that being a regulated. 274 00:12:46,230 --> 00:12:48,570 Utility downgrade you to a single a. 275 00:12:49,470 --> 00:12:50,000 Mm-hmm 276 00:12:51,770 --> 00:12:54,100 I understand that we're compared to every other. 277 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,670 Public power utility in the country. But. 278 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,830 When I looked at all the, the determinations. 279 00:13:01,630 --> 00:13:03,800 In my mind, I was a strong AA and. 280 00:13:04,870 --> 00:13:06,800 I guess whatever we can do to move towards that 281 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:07,230 in the future. 282 00:13:08,370 --> 00:13:09,770 Before your time, Jill. 283 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,930 ROSE has heard this before. Cody's heard this before. 284 00:13:13,830 --> 00:13:16,070 What could we do to upgrade to that? And so 285 00:13:16,470 --> 00:13:20,030 I'm glad to see where moving in that direction. Stankey 286 00:13:20,070 --> 00:13:21,930 yeah. And I would say that they were very clear. 287 00:13:22,030 --> 00:13:24,030 You know, they highlighted some different things, but they kept 288 00:13:24,030 --> 00:13:25,770 coming back to the 250 days. 289 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,000 If we had that kind of cash on hand, I 290 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,970 believe there'd be no question that we'd be upgraded. They 291 00:13:29,970 --> 00:13:31,930 had a lot of questions also on our regular, how 292 00:13:31,930 --> 00:13:34,570 we're regulated and how our ability or the city's ability. 293 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,470 To have, you know, excess funds to take monies from 294 00:13:37,470 --> 00:13:38,000 the utility. 295 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,930 And we were able to explain even shared the allocations 296 00:13:41,070 --> 00:13:42,670 document of, okay. It's a very, very clear. 297 00:13:43,570 --> 00:13:45,570 On, this is how we actually transfer dollars and only 298 00:13:45,570 --> 00:13:46,500 under these criteria. 299 00:13:47,370 --> 00:13:49,070 Would we ever be in a situation. So basically just 300 00:13:49,070 --> 00:13:53,030 talked through pilot and where their shared services, which I 301 00:13:53,030 --> 00:13:55,200 think also helped them kind of deal with the regulat. 302 00:13:55,770 --> 00:13:57,000 Regulated part of it. I think the big hangup that 303 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,000 they have, there is the fact that we can't just 304 00:13:59,030 --> 00:14:02,300 decide tomorrow or this board cannot decide to raise rates. 305 00:14:03,370 --> 00:14:04,800 They get very hung up and they, we did have 306 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,200 a little bit of a discussion on how long it 307 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,000 took to get our electric, GRAY case through. 308 00:14:08,930 --> 00:14:10,430 But also helped us kind of think to some degree, 309 00:14:10,430 --> 00:14:12,100 too, to be more mindful as we go to look 310 00:14:12,100 --> 00:14:15,270 to do electric or water rate case, we'll start that 311 00:14:15,270 --> 00:14:16,970 process as early as the. 312 00:14:17,070 --> 00:14:20,030 First indication of yep. We probably Oneida start thinking about 313 00:14:20,030 --> 00:14:21,570 this. Let's get that in, in front of them as 314 00:14:21,570 --> 00:14:22,430 quickly as possible. 315 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,470 You know, a few things that the Moody's rating. 316 00:14:30,230 --> 00:14:33,770 Analyst said also was that no, w P P I 317 00:14:33,770 --> 00:14:37,100 member utility has a higher rating than a one than 318 00:14:37,100 --> 00:14:38,000 what we were rated. 319 00:14:38,700 --> 00:14:39,930 At least not for electric. 320 00:14:43,030 --> 00:14:46,000 Just set. Our coverage is strong. It's common to be 321 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,300 two notches below the city. 322 00:14:48,100 --> 00:14:48,970 I don't know if they were trying to make us 323 00:14:48,970 --> 00:14:50,100 feel better. . 324 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,470 But, you know, the difficult thing is that. 325 00:14:55,930 --> 00:14:59,100 If you have that level of cash to then you 326 00:14:59,100 --> 00:15:01,430 almost don't Oneida borrow. And so that's the. 327 00:15:03,830 --> 00:15:05,970 You know, but with the sale of the building, 328 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,570 I think that will, would help us get to that, 329 00:15:09,930 --> 00:15:13,030 to that level. I know when we did set up 330 00:15:12,930 --> 00:15:13,200 our. 331 00:15:14,030 --> 00:15:17,370 Our or create our SPU cash reserve policy. 332 00:15:18,230 --> 00:15:19,970 It was discussed that 333 00:15:20,870 --> 00:15:24,100 you know, this, this level could, you know, help. 334 00:15:25,070 --> 00:15:26,300 Put you in a, in a higher. 335 00:15:28,030 --> 00:15:30,000 Category, but I think there was some. 336 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,930 Concern with some of the members of the commission of, 337 00:15:32,930 --> 00:15:33,670 of doing that. 338 00:15:34,830 --> 00:15:36,930 But, you know, we could always revisit that. 339 00:15:38,970 --> 00:15:41,030 I found it interesting as well that. 340 00:15:42,030 --> 00:15:43,670 When they talked about w P P I. 341 00:15:44,770 --> 00:15:48,100 When I looked at the FAC the facts at a 342 00:15:48,100 --> 00:15:48,500 glance. 343 00:15:49,270 --> 00:15:52,270 The diversification of the power generation. 344 00:15:53,070 --> 00:15:53,970 Seems to be 345 00:15:55,770 --> 00:15:56,700 strong. I mean, 346 00:15:58,630 --> 00:16:00,970 and, and when I looked at that, and then I 347 00:16:01,030 --> 00:16:01,270 saw. 348 00:16:02,070 --> 00:16:05,000 The kind of dinged us because they had w P 349 00:16:05,030 --> 00:16:06,800 P I, as more than 35%. 350 00:16:07,570 --> 00:16:08,370 Cold generation. 351 00:16:11,230 --> 00:16:12,700 You know, I, I guess. 352 00:16:13,630 --> 00:16:14,970 They're continuing to evolve and looking. 353 00:16:15,970 --> 00:16:19,830 At alternative generation, but having a baseline generation to me 354 00:16:19,870 --> 00:16:22,000 is a good thing and they seem to think. 355 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,000 Maybe not mm-hmm 356 00:16:25,230 --> 00:16:27,770 I agree. I, I think the diversity in having still 357 00:16:27,770 --> 00:16:31,370 KUHLE, I realize that that's not politically necessarily our environmentally. 358 00:16:32,100 --> 00:16:34,500 But it's a very sound from a power supply standpoint. 359 00:16:34,700 --> 00:16:37,000 So it's unfortunate that they looked at those things. I've 360 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:38,430 talked to w P P I quite a bit too, 361 00:16:38,430 --> 00:16:39,070 about their rating. 362 00:16:40,100 --> 00:16:42,030 And they've also got the feedback from Moody's that if 363 00:16:42,030 --> 00:16:44,700 they had more cash on hand, they wouldn't get their 364 00:16:44,700 --> 00:16:46,830 rating upgraded. And I think that's what we'll have to 365 00:16:46,830 --> 00:16:48,000 kind of contemplate is. 366 00:16:48,500 --> 00:16:50,700 What's that sweet spot. Where's that balance between. 367 00:16:51,770 --> 00:16:54,930 Taking on these dollars from our customers, having those in 368 00:16:54,930 --> 00:16:58,000 stash and then still doing borrowings and where that, you 369 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,570 know, we're because I'd really. 370 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,100 Wanna kind of hone in if we're upgraded. 371 00:17:02,230 --> 00:17:04,030 Upgraded how much really will that matter. 372 00:17:05,070 --> 00:17:08,030 And if that's financially gonna be significant, it's worth holding 373 00:17:08,070 --> 00:17:10,930 onto those dollars more, but w P Pittz I talked 374 00:17:11,070 --> 00:17:11,230 actually. 375 00:17:12,500 --> 00:17:15,970 Joe Dagget at our conference. And he kinda said, that's 376 00:17:15,970 --> 00:17:17,970 really where they've come to is they've decided it's not 377 00:17:17,970 --> 00:17:20,370 been worth it to actually take on customers. 378 00:17:20,870 --> 00:17:22,570 Customers, which would be our utility and all the other 379 00:17:22,570 --> 00:17:25,470 members dollars to make that threshold. 380 00:17:28,970 --> 00:17:31,700 You did mention one other thing in there about. 381 00:17:32,700 --> 00:17:36,970 Moving to a 20 year C I a P first. 382 00:17:37,030 --> 00:17:39,270 I just wanted to ask the members of city council. 383 00:17:39,370 --> 00:17:39,970 Mm-hmm . 384 00:17:40,700 --> 00:17:43,470 You would know as well. How long is the. 385 00:17:45,070 --> 00:17:47,070 Current city C I P. 386 00:17:47,930 --> 00:17:51,000 Mapped out tenure. It's 10 it's tenure. 387 00:17:51,970 --> 00:17:54,430 Okay. And then from a. 388 00:17:55,570 --> 00:17:56,930 Just a planning standpoint. 389 00:17:57,930 --> 00:18:00,800 Would that create any problems for the utility to create 390 00:18:00,930 --> 00:18:03,800 a 20 year roadmap or would there just be kind 391 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,600 of placeholders for, we expect. 392 00:18:06,230 --> 00:18:08,270 On an annual there's this much in construction. 393 00:18:09,070 --> 00:18:11,570 On roads and annually. You see where I'm going? 394 00:18:12,300 --> 00:18:14,200 Yes, and we just don't know you hit on 395 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:15,930 my, my strategy here. 396 00:18:17,070 --> 00:18:20,030 You know, I would, I would, if it was reasonable 397 00:18:20,030 --> 00:18:21,830 and made sense, I would do a 50 year C 398 00:18:21,830 --> 00:18:24,070 I P because, you know, it's nice to be able 399 00:18:24,070 --> 00:18:25,000 to look out and say, okay, 400 00:18:25,470 --> 00:18:26,930 we know that we've got this stuff coming. These are 401 00:18:26,930 --> 00:18:28,930 all the assets that we have. This is when we're 402 00:18:28,930 --> 00:18:31,230 gonna be looking at replacement. This is end of useful 403 00:18:31,270 --> 00:18:31,600 life. 404 00:18:32,500 --> 00:18:34,000 And be able to map all of that out. You 405 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,030 know, we would only send over to the city. 406 00:18:37,070 --> 00:18:38,970 The C I P that actually would be, you know, 407 00:18:38,970 --> 00:18:41,030 for the 10 years, each year. But to have that 408 00:18:41,030 --> 00:18:43,270 mapped out as far in, into the future, as we 409 00:18:43,270 --> 00:18:44,500 possibly can, is very helpful. 410 00:18:45,270 --> 00:18:47,230 It helps us also recognize, okay. If we know that 411 00:18:47,230 --> 00:18:48,300 we have all these opportunities. 412 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,030 And we're only we're spending say 1.5 million on our water 413 00:18:54,030 --> 00:18:57,100 infrastructure for water main replacements, but we see. 414 00:18:57,470 --> 00:18:59,930 That we have these opportunities and of useful. Life's going 415 00:18:59,930 --> 00:19:02,970 to be this much time we Oneida spend more. So 416 00:19:02,970 --> 00:19:05,430 that actually helps the financial side to start planning. 417 00:19:06,070 --> 00:19:07,770 And look at the idea that we needed to be 418 00:19:07,770 --> 00:19:08,470 spending more dollars. 419 00:19:09,270 --> 00:19:11,070 So I a 20 year CIP P from a utility 420 00:19:11,070 --> 00:19:15,000 standpoint, I absolutely want that just because again, it's, you're 421 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,030 gonna change things as you get closer to those years. 422 00:19:17,630 --> 00:19:19,470 But it gives you a good roadmap of how you're 423 00:19:19,470 --> 00:19:21,000 gonna get to the places that you need. 424 00:19:21,830 --> 00:19:22,830 For maintaining your infrastructure. 425 00:19:23,930 --> 00:19:25,570 Well, if I'm here for 20 more years, I do 426 00:19:25,570 --> 00:19:27,700 not want to build another building. . 427 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,970 Agree well in the electric and the water long range 428 00:19:33,030 --> 00:19:35,770 plan updates that are in the 2027 budget. 429 00:19:36,500 --> 00:19:37,970 Should help inform that plan. 430 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,970 I would think too. Absolutely. Because in our last one, 431 00:19:40,970 --> 00:19:43,270 we did that in our 8 54 study. 432 00:19:44,100 --> 00:19:45,770 The thinking at that point in time is that our 433 00:19:45,770 --> 00:19:47,070 next well was 15 years out. 434 00:19:47,930 --> 00:19:49,370 So, you know, it's something we can start then planning 435 00:19:49,370 --> 00:19:51,470 for and putting into our C I P and looking 436 00:19:51,470 --> 00:19:52,230 to all of those things. 437 00:19:53,470 --> 00:19:56,270 That makes perfect sense. Anyone on the phone have any 438 00:19:56,570 --> 00:19:56,700 questions? 439 00:19:57,630 --> 00:19:58,830 Questions anyone who's virtual. Will that be. 440 00:20:01,270 --> 00:20:01,930 Nope. No. 441 00:20:03,170 --> 00:20:05,100 Okay. Anyone else in the room? 442 00:20:07,070 --> 00:20:08,070 Stankey Stankey 443 00:20:09,230 --> 00:20:10,230 moving along item. 444 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,800 Four F this is where I get the glasses out. 445 00:20:14,930 --> 00:20:18,030 Adjourn into closed session in accordance with Wisconsin statute in 446 00:20:18,100 --> 00:20:22,600 19.85 sub one sub E deliberating or negotiating the. 447 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,270 Purchasing of public properties, the investing of public funds. 448 00:20:26,030 --> 00:20:29,700 Or conducting other specified public business whenever competitive or bargaining 449 00:20:29,700 --> 00:20:31,070 reasons require a closed session. 450 00:20:32,100 --> 00:20:34,830 To consider and discuss the following water TOWER lease agreements. 451 00:20:36,170 --> 00:20:38,030 One T-Mobile formerly us cellular. 452 00:20:39,170 --> 00:20:42,030 It TOWER and ground spa, the TOWER and ground space. 453 00:20:42,030 --> 00:20:43,770 Lease at the BIRD street TOWER. 454 00:20:44,700 --> 00:20:46,300 Two at and T mobility. 455 00:20:47,170 --> 00:20:49,930 Third amendment to lease the lease agreement for the Columbus 456 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:50,930 street TOWER. 457 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,070 3 18 2 mobility. 458 00:20:55,170 --> 00:20:58,230 Fourth amendment to lease agreement on the Lin Rupp drive 459 00:20:58,370 --> 00:20:58,770 TOWER. 460 00:20:59,770 --> 00:21:01,970 Do I hear a motion to go into closed session? 461 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:04,270 Andrews moves. 462 00:21:05,470 --> 00:21:06,670 Moves Jacob seconds. 463 00:21:09,470 --> 00:21:11,000 In Jacob seconds. Excellent. 464 00:21:11,970 --> 00:21:15,000 Excellent. Cody, could you call the role to go and 465 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:15,470 closed? 466 00:21:16,300 --> 00:21:17,570 Enclosed Benedict. Hi Jacobs. 467 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:23,600 Jacobs. Yep. Andres. Hi Christenson. Hi, Clet. 468 00:21:25,970 --> 00:21:26,030 Hi. 469 00:21:27,170 --> 00:21:27,500 Stocker 470 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:30,030 hi. 471 00:21:32,070 --> 00:21:34,700 Okay, the eyes have it. And we are going into 472 00:21:34,700 --> 00:21:35,100 closed session. 473 00:21:36,930 --> 00:21:39,000 Do we just stay on this link? 474 00:21:39,770 --> 00:21:40,030 Jeff chair. 475 00:21:42,030 --> 00:21:43,500 I am not sure if Kier sent me another link 476 00:21:43,500 --> 00:21:44,030 for the closed. 477 00:30:39,770 --> 00:30:40,370 Steve is 478 00:30:41,470 --> 00:30:41,500 commuting. 479 00:30:52,230 --> 00:30:53,200 You're good. Okay. 480 00:30:54,230 --> 00:30:57,230 And we are back in open session for the Monday, 481 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,030 September 21st Sun Prairie utilities meeting. 482 00:31:01,630 --> 00:31:03,230 I'm happy to report item G. 483 00:31:04,100 --> 00:31:08,430 Reconvened for possible action regarding the close session matters. 484 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,200 I would like to report the commission has been updated 485 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,500 and staff has been directed on how to proceed. 486 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,830 Moving along item five, a consideration discussion and possible action 487 00:31:21,830 --> 00:31:23,970 regarding S P U customer records. 488 00:31:24,700 --> 00:31:25,970 Retention policy Jill. 489 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,570 Stankey so in your packet, you'll find there's the records, 490 00:31:29,700 --> 00:31:33,030 the customer records retention policy. There's the city records retention 491 00:31:33,100 --> 00:31:33,600 policy. 492 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,770 There is the policy of the wastewater treatment utility and 493 00:31:37,930 --> 00:31:40,300 their policy related to records retention. 494 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,470 So instead of actually revamping a full policy, because the 495 00:31:45,470 --> 00:31:48,030 city's got a pretty robust policy, which touch touches on 496 00:31:47,930 --> 00:31:48,930 a variety of different things. 497 00:31:49,630 --> 00:31:51,670 We really wanted to hone in on the customer records, 498 00:31:51,670 --> 00:31:53,430 retention policy, and a lot of this driver. 499 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,000 Ultimately is because we're moving to north star seven. 500 00:31:57,470 --> 00:32:00,670 PSC requires that we hold customer records for six years. 501 00:32:01,470 --> 00:32:03,100 But wastewaters policy is seven. 502 00:32:03,930 --> 00:32:07,000 So we basically reflect seven throughout in the new ordinance 503 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,670 that you approved this evening in section 13. 504 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,030 As far as back billing and customer refunds, where there's 505 00:32:14,030 --> 00:32:16,930 billing errors that relates to two and six. 506 00:32:17,870 --> 00:32:19,930 So we've kind of got those things covered in those 507 00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:23,070 locations. And so we needed to basically purge as many 508 00:32:23,070 --> 00:32:24,670 records as we possibly could. 509 00:32:25,470 --> 00:32:28,100 With this conversion to north star seven, and that conversion's 510 00:32:28,300 --> 00:32:29,270 actually planned for. 511 00:32:30,230 --> 00:32:31,770 The last week, or I think the third week in 512 00:32:31,770 --> 00:32:32,030 October. 513 00:32:33,570 --> 00:32:35,830 So that basically that's what the policy before you has, 514 00:32:35,830 --> 00:32:36,930 is to really go through. 515 00:32:37,630 --> 00:32:41,770 And highlight what we're doing related to customer records and 516 00:32:41,770 --> 00:32:42,970 the retention, and then going forward. 517 00:32:43,930 --> 00:32:47,030 We'll be continuously purging so that we only keep seven 518 00:32:47,030 --> 00:32:47,800 years of records. 519 00:32:53,870 --> 00:32:55,070 Can we turn the questions for Jill? 520 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,030 And so as drafted in that policy, the fact that 521 00:33:00,030 --> 00:33:03,000 we are retaining the records for seven years does not 522 00:33:03,100 --> 00:33:03,470 mean. 523 00:33:04,500 --> 00:33:08,000 Does not determine how long back billing or refunds could 524 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:08,230 be. 525 00:33:09,500 --> 00:33:12,270 Done for it only says we will have the records 526 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,230 for seven years. That is correct. 527 00:33:26,770 --> 00:33:27,970 Jill, we need a motion. 528 00:33:29,470 --> 00:33:32,230 I do, please. Can I ask the, may I ask 529 00:33:32,270 --> 00:33:34,930 a question though, based on John's comments and I, I 530 00:33:34,930 --> 00:33:37,200 hate making comments when I'm not there versus. 531 00:33:37,830 --> 00:33:40,000 Being in person, but 532 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:42,230 John and your 533 00:33:43,170 --> 00:33:45,970 reference to back billing in those pieces. If we don't 534 00:33:45,970 --> 00:33:46,600 have the records. 535 00:33:47,370 --> 00:33:49,000 Anymore, how would we back bill? 536 00:33:51,700 --> 00:33:53,570 Emalyn what, what I was. 537 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:54,930 Driving at is 538 00:33:57,070 --> 00:33:59,700 arguably there is language in statute. 539 00:34:00,500 --> 00:34:03,470 And PSE administrative code that limits. 540 00:34:04,700 --> 00:34:05,970 Limits refunds to six years. 541 00:34:07,970 --> 00:34:09,830 And back billing to two years. 542 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,470 That's the general guidance that's out there. 543 00:34:14,230 --> 00:34:16,670 The fact that we have records for 70 years and 544 00:34:16,670 --> 00:34:17,200 that's why I was. 545 00:34:18,030 --> 00:34:21,000 Years. The fact that we have records for seven years. 546 00:34:22,030 --> 00:34:25,030 Doesn't mean that we will refund for seven years, we 547 00:34:25,030 --> 00:34:28,270 will follow. And it clearly states somewhere in the policy 548 00:34:28,500 --> 00:34:29,770 that we will follow. 549 00:34:30,230 --> 00:34:31,700 The existing P S C. 550 00:34:32,500 --> 00:34:35,000 And state statutory guidelines, which. 551 00:34:35,770 --> 00:34:37,300 I would interpret as six and two. 552 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,230 I would as well. And I think the interesting thing 553 00:34:40,230 --> 00:34:41,570 is, yep. Perfect. I just wanna check. 554 00:34:48,170 --> 00:34:49,830 Go ahead. No, go. 555 00:34:50,930 --> 00:34:56,500 Were were answering. Okay. Sorry. Emalyn so the PSC one 556 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,700 13, which is for electric and PS. 557 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:03,430 POC, 180 5 for water highlights, a lot of information about 558 00:35:03,470 --> 00:35:04,030 billing. 559 00:35:04,870 --> 00:35:07,830 Errors related to meters, they go into a deep dive 560 00:35:07,830 --> 00:35:09,800 about depending on what you had going on with the 561 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,100 meter. Exactly how we are to. 562 00:35:12,100 --> 00:35:14,600 Refund or back bill and those align. 563 00:35:15,370 --> 00:35:17,830 I would say pretty clearly with six years. So the 564 00:35:17,830 --> 00:35:18,300 six and two. 565 00:35:19,170 --> 00:35:21,030 However, they're silent related to. 566 00:35:22,030 --> 00:35:24,600 Say the account was set up incorrectly or other things. 567 00:35:25,670 --> 00:35:27,930 What we found is state statute 8 93. 568 00:35:28,930 --> 00:35:31,200 Which is a statute of limitations is six years as 569 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,500 well. So we've been utilizing that information because we have 570 00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:35,200 no other guidance. 571 00:35:36,100 --> 00:35:40,000 Related to this, our new ordinance, our ordinance section reflects 572 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:40,500 this as well. 573 00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:42,670 We did also get PSC guidance. 574 00:35:43,570 --> 00:35:45,030 Related to this finding. 575 00:35:46,030 --> 00:35:48,930 So to John's point into yours is that. 576 00:35:49,630 --> 00:35:51,230 We're maintaining these records because. 577 00:35:52,500 --> 00:35:56,030 Waste water's policy is based on financial record keeping. 578 00:35:57,070 --> 00:36:00,500 For cities and, and that's seven years. And I believe 579 00:36:00,500 --> 00:36:01,230 that state statute. 580 00:36:02,070 --> 00:36:05,470 19.21. And they that's how they arrived at the seven 581 00:36:05,470 --> 00:36:07,930 years. So basically we're maintaining those records. 582 00:36:09,030 --> 00:36:12,030 To be able to align with what wastewater needs to 583 00:36:12,370 --> 00:36:14,770 do related to their records retention. However, 584 00:36:15,570 --> 00:36:17,970 our back billing and credits will, will base be based 585 00:36:17,970 --> 00:36:19,000 on the situation. 586 00:36:19,770 --> 00:36:20,670 That we're presented with. 587 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,230 Okay. Did I hear a motion anywhere in the. 588 00:36:29,270 --> 00:36:30,930 Jury, I would move. We. 589 00:36:31,970 --> 00:36:35,070 Approve the Sun Prairie utility customer records retention. 590 00:36:35,930 --> 00:36:36,830 Policy as drafted. 591 00:36:38,230 --> 00:36:41,600 Benedict seconds. We have a motion and a second, any 592 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:42,500 further discussion. 593 00:36:45,630 --> 00:36:48,030 All those in favor, please indicate by saying aye. 594 00:36:48,870 --> 00:36:48,970 Aye. Aye. 595 00:36:51,300 --> 00:36:51,970 Hi. Hi. 596 00:36:53,870 --> 00:36:54,700 All is opposed. 597 00:36:56,370 --> 00:36:56,970 Say nay. 598 00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,030 The eyes have it. 599 00:37:00,300 --> 00:37:05,030 Stankey moving along. Item five B consideration discussion and possible 600 00:37:05,030 --> 00:37:06,100 action regarding the ATC. 601 00:37:07,770 --> 00:37:13,000 ATC voluntary, additional capital contribution due October 30th, 2026. 602 00:37:13,830 --> 00:37:15,930 ROSE. Hi. Hi there. . 603 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,100 This is our 604 00:37:20,100 --> 00:37:23,800 last capital call request for 2026. 605 00:37:24,700 --> 00:37:26,230 And there's a little 606 00:37:27,170 --> 00:37:29,500 mini table in there showing what we budgeted. 607 00:37:31,030 --> 00:37:31,970 For capital. 608 00:37:32,700 --> 00:37:36,030 Calls minus the cash dividends that we expected. 609 00:37:36,870 --> 00:37:39,470 To find the net cash outlay for the year. 610 00:37:40,570 --> 00:37:41,830 Compared to the 2026. 611 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,700 Projected and that's based on. 612 00:37:45,470 --> 00:37:48,270 What we've actually paid out what we've actually received. 613 00:37:49,270 --> 00:37:52,270 And the cash dividends for. 614 00:37:53,070 --> 00:37:55,930 What will get the end of October so that a 615 00:37:56,030 --> 00:37:57,000 TC cash dividends. 616 00:37:58,030 --> 00:38:00,070 Dividends for 2026 projected should be very close. 617 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:02,030 So 618 00:38:04,070 --> 00:38:05,570 knowing that we're exceeding budget. 619 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:07,970 For the capital calls. 620 00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:13,100 But getting more cash dividends, we would still be exceeding 621 00:38:13,100 --> 00:38:15,000 budget by 12,000 1 0 8. 622 00:38:15,970 --> 00:38:20,430 Estimated if the commission is okay with doing that. 623 00:38:21,270 --> 00:38:23,370 Then we would be asking for approval of the full. 624 00:38:24,930 --> 00:38:25,230 Amount 625 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:30,030 due October 30th of 630, 9,644. 626 00:38:32,630 --> 00:38:35,470 Okay. I will start the discussion by making a motion 627 00:38:35,870 --> 00:38:35,970 to. 628 00:38:37,070 --> 00:38:39,370 Approve contributing the fourth. 629 00:38:40,100 --> 00:38:42,430 2026 V a C call. 630 00:38:43,370 --> 00:38:45,030 In full to the amount of. 631 00:38:46,030 --> 00:38:48,230 6 39, 6 44. 632 00:38:49,070 --> 00:38:50,270 Do I hear a second? 633 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,600 Andrew seconds, Andrew. 634 00:38:55,570 --> 00:38:57,970 We have a motion and a second, any discussion. 635 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,070 About the capital call from ATC. 636 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,200 ATC Jill, when you attended the. 637 00:39:06,030 --> 00:39:08,230 Day of ATC day. 638 00:39:09,270 --> 00:39:13,270 They're still on track with the projects as they'd laid 639 00:39:13,300 --> 00:39:14,700 out in the long. 640 00:39:15,770 --> 00:39:19,970 Range plan. They, yes. However, the, I think the one 641 00:39:19,970 --> 00:39:22,000 thing that is still unclear to me at this point 642 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,070 in time is they had. 643 00:39:23,930 --> 00:39:27,100 Were working to procure some additional projects, which, you know, 644 00:39:27,170 --> 00:39:30,230 our capital calls, their projections have not changed. There was 645 00:39:30,230 --> 00:39:30,500 some. 646 00:39:31,930 --> 00:39:33,430 Work that they did not get though. They didn't were 647 00:39:33,430 --> 00:39:34,000 not the winning. 648 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,430 Entity for that transmission work. 649 00:39:37,470 --> 00:39:40,000 So I, it, it does appear that they're, you know, 650 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,270 there's no change. So I don't know if they didn't 651 00:39:42,270 --> 00:39:44,300 build in, I guess I don't have the great answer 652 00:39:44,300 --> 00:39:45,470 to that at this point in time. 653 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,000 There's still a lot of legal things that are being. 654 00:39:50,030 --> 00:39:51,700 Worked through right now. So I, I, what I believe 655 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,800 is occurring there is they're still envisioning that they're doing 656 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:55,270 that work. 657 00:39:56,300 --> 00:39:59,470 Until they know otherwise, but there's no change to their 658 00:39:59,470 --> 00:40:03,600 other than minor tweaks. Their projections have remained basically the 659 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:04,230 same, despite them. 660 00:40:04,700 --> 00:40:07,700 Not getting this additional work. My understanding has always been 661 00:40:07,700 --> 00:40:09,670 though that that was built into these estimates. 662 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,100 Estimates, but I can follow up and find out exactly 663 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,930 why there hasn't been a change despite them not receiving 664 00:40:14,930 --> 00:40:15,270 those. 665 00:40:16,100 --> 00:40:19,970 Bit awards. And I think part of the future. 666 00:40:20,700 --> 00:40:21,930 Is is you're alluding to. 667 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,300 What happens with Becky and how. 668 00:40:25,070 --> 00:40:27,830 Successful other providers of that. 669 00:40:28,700 --> 00:40:31,570 Construction will be, will definitely impact. 670 00:40:32,930 --> 00:40:36,030 All those things where we've seen in the long range 671 00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:37,100 information on. 672 00:40:38,230 --> 00:40:41,370 ATC will be in impacted by how successful this. 673 00:40:42,430 --> 00:40:44,700 Upcoming project being considered is. 674 00:40:45,630 --> 00:40:48,600 Absolutely. And if, even if everything stays on track as 675 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,230 it, we know it to be, you know, transmission costs, 676 00:40:51,300 --> 00:40:53,430 we know will be going up for everybody. 677 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:55,570 Now having another provider. 678 00:40:56,500 --> 00:40:57,830 With, you know, providing transmission. 679 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,000 We won't be as if we, we're not a shareholder 680 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,700 of them. So we won't be receiving dividends back from 681 00:41:02,700 --> 00:41:05,470 that additional work that's being done that ATC does not 682 00:41:05,470 --> 00:41:05,800 have. 683 00:41:06,930 --> 00:41:09,000 So in the end, we will be paying more. 684 00:41:10,030 --> 00:41:11,970 Based on having another provider in the state. 685 00:41:12,970 --> 00:41:16,200 So Warren buffet doesn't want us to invest in the, 686 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,370 his, his line. Yeah, he hasn't. He hasn't asked yet. 687 00:41:18,370 --> 00:41:19,270 Yeah. Okay. . 688 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,570 Any other questions or comments from the commission? Basically those. 689 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:26,600 Online. 690 00:41:34,300 --> 00:41:35,430 Hearing none. 691 00:41:36,570 --> 00:41:40,570 I will call the question. All those in favor of 692 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,930 the motion, please indicate by saying aye. 693 00:41:43,970 --> 00:41:47,570 Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. All those opposed. 694 00:41:49,030 --> 00:41:50,030 The eyes have it. 695 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,800 Moving along item five C consideration discussion. 696 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,470 And possible action regarding approval of bid for road patching 697 00:41:58,630 --> 00:42:01,470 and flat work and awarding of contract. 698 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,500 Jill bear with me for a second. I'm I'm struggling 699 00:42:06,570 --> 00:42:09,000 a little bit with my sharing this evening, Sarah. I'm 700 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:09,470 not sure. 701 00:42:10,630 --> 00:42:12,830 Huh. All right. Well, we may have that memo here 702 00:42:12,830 --> 00:42:13,100 for a second. 703 00:42:15,070 --> 00:42:17,000 But what I wanted to do is highlight. And what 704 00:42:17,030 --> 00:42:19,470 really do you wanna also share is Andy did a 705 00:42:19,470 --> 00:42:21,800 really nice job of going through and actually bidding out. 706 00:42:21,830 --> 00:42:22,930 So this is actually work. 707 00:42:23,170 --> 00:42:25,030 That we Oneida pay to deal with the pavement after 708 00:42:25,030 --> 00:42:25,930 water main breaks. 709 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,570 Breaks. So this is asphalt work. This is concrete work. 710 00:42:29,670 --> 00:42:32,000 In the past, we've kind of utilized a variety of 711 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,570 different people, but haven't had a real. 712 00:42:34,970 --> 00:42:36,430 Clear. Oh, Stankey 713 00:42:37,270 --> 00:42:39,500 all right. Stankey so much Cody I'll steal this. 714 00:42:40,500 --> 00:42:43,930 So anyway, we put together a, a actual packet that 715 00:42:43,930 --> 00:42:45,370 we provided to each of these vendors. 716 00:42:46,430 --> 00:42:48,300 We did get three quotes back. 717 00:42:49,430 --> 00:42:50,370 The lowest is 718 00:42:51,370 --> 00:42:54,000 Dr asphalt. And we would recommend moving forward with those. 719 00:42:54,030 --> 00:42:56,930 And there's a significant price savings between the three bids 720 00:42:56,930 --> 00:42:57,930 that we received. 721 00:42:59,100 --> 00:43:01,970 And so we wanna continue this process as we did 722 00:43:01,970 --> 00:43:03,770 this year to have this level of transparency. 723 00:43:04,500 --> 00:43:06,670 To procure quotes. We will be working to do this 724 00:43:06,670 --> 00:43:07,970 though earlier in the year. 725 00:43:08,700 --> 00:43:12,430 Because originally we were received guidance from the city that 726 00:43:12,430 --> 00:43:14,270 this actually had to be a formal bid would have 727 00:43:14,270 --> 00:43:16,070 to meet public bid law requirements. 728 00:43:17,070 --> 00:43:18,970 That took a lot of effort. We ultimately got legal 729 00:43:19,770 --> 00:43:21,000 after we actually, Andy. 730 00:43:22,030 --> 00:43:26,100 Andy completed all that work. We got legal insight that 731 00:43:26,170 --> 00:43:28,230 this is maintenance. And so we don't Oneida go through 732 00:43:28,230 --> 00:43:29,570 that level of public bidding. 733 00:43:30,430 --> 00:43:32,470 So before you, I guess I just request so that 734 00:43:32,470 --> 00:43:32,800 we can. 735 00:43:33,630 --> 00:43:38,300 Take care of our asphalt and concrete work that we 736 00:43:38,300 --> 00:43:40,930 move forward with the lowest bidder, which is Dr. Asphalt. 737 00:43:42,030 --> 00:43:45,230 Asphalt for a total of $36,307 and 73 cents. 738 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:47,370 Cents. Do I hear a motion? 739 00:43:49,830 --> 00:43:51,470 I'll make a motion to authorize this. 740 00:43:52,500 --> 00:43:54,100 Okay, Benedict moves. Do I hear a second? 741 00:43:56,930 --> 00:43:58,500 Anyone online wanna make a second? 742 00:44:02,170 --> 00:44:02,930 Well that seconds. 743 00:44:04,670 --> 00:44:05,800 We have a motion to second. 744 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,470 Any further discussion regarding 745 00:44:09,470 --> 00:44:11,070 the bid to Dr. Asphalt. 746 00:44:12,300 --> 00:44:14,230 Asphalt. Just a curiosity. If you guys have worked with 747 00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:15,370 this vendor before. 748 00:44:16,100 --> 00:44:18,270 Fender before I know that they've done work in our 749 00:44:18,270 --> 00:44:20,970 community before. I don't know that we've worked directly with 750 00:44:20,970 --> 00:44:23,000 them, but I believe the city has, oh, just curious. 751 00:44:24,230 --> 00:44:26,700 We have sparing Lee sparing Lee. So I know we 752 00:44:26,700 --> 00:44:28,670 have at least once or twice on a prior main 753 00:44:28,670 --> 00:44:29,270 break and. 754 00:44:30,230 --> 00:44:33,370 Have nothing negative to report. Okay. So thanks Cody. That's 755 00:44:33,370 --> 00:44:33,570 good. 756 00:44:34,470 --> 00:44:36,600 Any other questions for, for staff? 757 00:44:37,630 --> 00:44:41,970 Does does the city engineering staff have to oversee this. 758 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,030 To bless it, if you will, they will. Because ultimately 759 00:44:46,030 --> 00:44:49,030 we're the obligations that they've got per the contract is 760 00:44:49,030 --> 00:44:50,770 that they meet city standards and. 761 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,470 So they will ultimately they've actually marked out exactly what 762 00:44:53,470 --> 00:44:54,700 needs to be paved city. 763 00:44:56,030 --> 00:44:59,770 Engineers department basically goes through, says, okay, we have this, 764 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,770 you know, we have this hole in the ground, basically. 765 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,430 They'll mark off. We'll saw. Cut. 766 00:45:03,970 --> 00:45:05,970 That piece so that we they've, you know, they patched 767 00:45:05,970 --> 00:45:08,570 to the level in which they want the limits, the 768 00:45:08,570 --> 00:45:11,370 extends, and then they will oversee that paving to make 769 00:45:11,370 --> 00:45:11,930 sure that it's. 770 00:45:12,100 --> 00:45:13,700 It's done correctly. Okay. 771 00:45:14,970 --> 00:45:17,430 Any other questions or comments? 772 00:45:19,170 --> 00:45:21,770 Comments hearing none. All those in favor, please indicate by 773 00:45:21,770 --> 00:45:22,230 saying aye. 774 00:45:23,100 --> 00:45:23,830 Aye. Aye. 775 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:26,500 Hi. Hi. 776 00:45:27,570 --> 00:45:28,370 All those opposed. 777 00:45:29,970 --> 00:45:30,970 The eyes have it. 778 00:45:31,930 --> 00:45:35,000 Rupp long item five D discussion on public power month. 779 00:45:35,970 --> 00:45:39,200 Activities. Jill, tell me all about public power month and 780 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:40,570 the cool things we're gonna do. 781 00:45:41,630 --> 00:45:43,970 Well, I'm gonna describe up. Your core has been actually 782 00:45:43,970 --> 00:45:45,970 a very hard at work related to the public power 783 00:45:46,300 --> 00:45:48,230 is October 4th through the 10th. 784 00:45:49,270 --> 00:45:51,770 We have a color Koll coloring contest, a theme drink 785 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,970 at beans and cream. We have our sunshine supper, which 786 00:45:54,970 --> 00:45:56,000 will be October 5th. 787 00:45:56,930 --> 00:45:59,000 We have a library event, which will reread in a 788 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,000 book of if I were a lightning worker. 789 00:46:02,230 --> 00:46:03,930 And then we're hosting a chamber. 790 00:46:04,700 --> 00:46:05,970 Event. And then 791 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,270 Jim. We're all very excited about is October 15th. We will 792 00:46:10,270 --> 00:46:11,030 be providing. 793 00:46:12,300 --> 00:46:14,970 Basically central to flyer to our, our local businesses. 794 00:46:15,970 --> 00:46:17,930 Cause we do a lot of things for public power. 795 00:46:19,630 --> 00:46:22,370 Week usually, but for the month related to your residential 796 00:46:22,700 --> 00:46:25,200 customers, we typically highlight them in many ways. So this 797 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:26,970 year we thought we would reach out to our. 798 00:46:27,370 --> 00:46:29,670 Business customers and provide them an opportunity for us to 799 00:46:29,670 --> 00:46:30,270 really thank them. 800 00:46:31,170 --> 00:46:34,270 So the each business is given a flyer. 801 00:46:35,370 --> 00:46:38,030 They have a set amount of time for us to 802 00:46:38,030 --> 00:46:40,300 basically take their orders. They're allowed to take up to 803 00:46:40,300 --> 00:46:43,270 50 Brotts and we've got this whole thing planned. 804 00:46:43,770 --> 00:46:45,370 Out. It'll be the first time we're doing it. KA 805 00:46:45,370 --> 00:46:46,670 Conna had done this previously. 806 00:46:47,570 --> 00:46:50,500 One QBE will be actually doing it the week before 807 00:46:50,500 --> 00:46:50,770 us. 808 00:46:51,770 --> 00:46:53,830 And then we'll be doing on the 15th. So we're 809 00:46:53,830 --> 00:46:54,600 very excited about this. 810 00:46:55,570 --> 00:46:56,570 Okay. Questions for Jill. 811 00:46:58,470 --> 00:47:00,230 Do you know what the theme drink is that beans 812 00:47:00,230 --> 00:47:05,000 and cream is yet Ooh, mocha, right? Yes. That's the 813 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:05,200 name? 814 00:47:06,030 --> 00:47:09,370 What is it? Make moka, megawatt, moka. Okay. Sounds good. 815 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:12,230 available at both locations. 816 00:47:13,470 --> 00:47:14,800 Locations. Hi. 817 00:47:15,930 --> 00:47:17,430 I Cora would know that yeah. 818 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:19,000 I don't know. 819 00:47:22,230 --> 00:47:26,030 It doesn't matter. I'll hopefully . Yes. Hopefully. 820 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,300 So I have hoping now, since we just advertising 821 00:47:29,830 --> 00:47:29,970 . 822 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,030 So I have two highly important questions, a who will 823 00:47:33,030 --> 00:47:34,000 be cooking those Brotts. 824 00:47:35,170 --> 00:47:37,700 Brats. We are actually working with hive for that. And 825 00:47:37,700 --> 00:47:41,000 I, and it's because I have this personal paranoia that 826 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,000 we would cook something here and somebody. 827 00:47:43,570 --> 00:47:46,100 Would not have a good experience. Okay. So we felt 828 00:47:46,100 --> 00:47:49,000 that it was appropriate to have another, you know, someone 829 00:47:49,100 --> 00:47:51,370 who's, you know, were a utility. We don't. 830 00:47:51,970 --> 00:47:54,000 Don't Excel necessarily in cooking. We'll have somebody else that's 831 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,470 really good at cooking and take care of that. Part 832 00:47:55,470 --> 00:47:57,000 of it for us. I just wanted to see Cody 833 00:47:57,030 --> 00:47:59,270 in the big hat. big chef hat, STULL St. 834 00:47:59,270 --> 00:47:59,600 Make that happen. 835 00:48:00,100 --> 00:48:02,470 Okay. Okay, excellent. Excellent. You kind of packaging them up, 836 00:48:02,470 --> 00:48:04,370 but they're gonna come to us cooked and then we're 837 00:48:04,370 --> 00:48:06,430 gonna be wrapping them and, and sending them out too. 838 00:48:06,430 --> 00:48:07,930 Okay. All the businesses. 839 00:48:08,500 --> 00:48:10,800 And then the coloring contest. Is there an age limit 840 00:48:11,030 --> 00:48:15,000 on this there is. I believe there is, well, 841 00:48:15,100 --> 00:48:16,500 not an age limit, cuz usually. 842 00:48:16,870 --> 00:48:18,930 I guess, I, I, I'm gonna, I'm gonna say what 843 00:48:18,930 --> 00:48:20,600 I believe is true. I could be wrong about this, 844 00:48:20,630 --> 00:48:22,970 but typically we also have an adult. We, we do 845 00:48:22,970 --> 00:48:24,700 it by age groups, but usually we do. 846 00:48:25,070 --> 00:48:28,100 Have an adult submission ability, but I, I, I guess 847 00:48:28,230 --> 00:48:31,000 I, I Oneida confirm that ultimately with Cora. All right. 848 00:48:31,270 --> 00:48:33,070 Excellent. Excellent. Share. The commission is. 849 00:48:33,470 --> 00:48:34,230 Precluded from 850 00:48:36,430 --> 00:48:39,100 all right, fine. But you're welcome to color and I 851 00:48:39,100 --> 00:48:40,500 will put it up in my office if you want. 852 00:48:40,500 --> 00:48:43,970 Okay. Excellent. Excellent. What's the date of the suffer event? 853 00:48:44,700 --> 00:48:46,230 October 5th Stankey mm-hmm . 854 00:48:47,300 --> 00:48:49,030 Anyone online have questions for Jill. 855 00:48:53,030 --> 00:48:54,930 No, but I wanna see that artwork when you do 856 00:48:54,930 --> 00:48:56,070 a check . 857 00:48:59,430 --> 00:49:00,470 All right. Any 858 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,670 with that being said, let's move along. 859 00:49:04,570 --> 00:49:08,100 Item six, eight, by the way, Stankey Jill and especially. 860 00:49:09,070 --> 00:49:10,970 Give Cora our thanks for all of her work on 861 00:49:10,970 --> 00:49:11,200 this. 862 00:49:12,100 --> 00:49:14,000 She's usually listening online. So. 863 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,200 C.H Cora Stankey item six, a report of the general 864 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:19,200 manager, Jill. 865 00:49:20,100 --> 00:49:22,430 What is going on in your world besides all of 866 00:49:22,570 --> 00:49:22,930 the things. 867 00:49:23,930 --> 00:49:25,970 Oh, it's been busy, but you know, we've gotten through 868 00:49:25,970 --> 00:49:28,770 budget. I, I think most, all these things you're all 869 00:49:28,770 --> 00:49:31,970 pretty aware of. So I probably won't go through. 870 00:49:32,300 --> 00:49:34,600 All the items continue to work on the alignment plan. 871 00:49:36,830 --> 00:49:38,600 I think the things that I'm always kind of concerned 872 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,030 about is upcoming is the all requirements. 873 00:49:42,030 --> 00:49:45,200 Long range, power supply contract with WPPI. So looking to 874 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:46,470 bring that forward in October. 875 00:49:47,370 --> 00:49:50,700 That will be first come to the commission, then recommended 876 00:49:50,830 --> 00:49:51,600 to city council. 877 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,300 We have now a contract signed with Baker, Tilly for 878 00:49:55,370 --> 00:49:58,000 a strategic plan. So that should start moving, making some 879 00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:58,570 good progress. 880 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,230 Ongoing billing review information have been in contact recently again 881 00:50:03,230 --> 00:50:06,970 with Alliance, somewhat unrelated to our service territory. 882 00:50:07,970 --> 00:50:09,970 Things, but looking to get that moving forward again. 883 00:50:11,430 --> 00:50:13,970 And then we also have our EV charger out front. 884 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,830 Since we're a utility, we need a special rate tariff 885 00:50:16,870 --> 00:50:18,830 for that. So that's gonna be coming up here yet. 886 00:50:20,030 --> 00:50:22,930 So we do charge for that at this location. Yeah. 887 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,930 Are we current? We will be charging for it at 888 00:50:25,930 --> 00:50:27,700 this location. If we choose to give. 889 00:50:27,930 --> 00:50:30,100 It for free, then we wouldn't have a need a 890 00:50:30,100 --> 00:50:32,230 rate tariff, but we've always charged for it. And I 891 00:50:32,570 --> 00:50:34,200 I'll be very honest with you. I think we should 892 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:35,570 always charge for it because. 893 00:50:36,300 --> 00:50:38,000 We shouldn't necessarily be incentivizing. 894 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,570 You know, they're using that power, that person with that, 895 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,970 that has that EV should be paying for that power 896 00:50:44,970 --> 00:50:45,570 for the EV. 897 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,070 So, yeah, as our plan and right now, actually the 898 00:50:48,070 --> 00:50:51,230 charger is not operational because we would be charging and 899 00:50:51,230 --> 00:50:53,000 we don't have a rate tariff to be able to 900 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:53,230 charge. 901 00:50:55,970 --> 00:50:57,570 And then I would like to highlight it for August. 902 00:50:57,670 --> 00:51:00,800 We have Shane who is in maintenance. He's been here 903 00:51:01,070 --> 00:51:02,030 14 years and we have. 904 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,600 Ashley customer service and billing. And she's been here for 905 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:05,200 33 years. 906 00:51:10,030 --> 00:51:13,030 Ahead for the chargings station. I know for like other 907 00:51:13,030 --> 00:51:16,000 municipality buildings, like for those, we had to charge it 908 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,800 because of after a certain. 909 00:51:18,230 --> 00:51:20,230 Date was spelled, we were required to charge it. Is 910 00:51:20,230 --> 00:51:22,200 that the similar thing with the utilities or is there 911 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:23,470 something exempt from. 912 00:51:24,300 --> 00:51:26,600 That we, we had a possibility not to charge. We, 913 00:51:26,970 --> 00:51:29,100 I, I believe we have a ho opportunity not to 914 00:51:29,100 --> 00:51:31,500 charge. Okay. But what a number of the ones that 915 00:51:31,500 --> 00:51:32,200 were for free. 916 00:51:32,700 --> 00:51:34,970 What the running into is the costs are a lot 917 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:35,700 they're significant. 918 00:51:36,830 --> 00:51:39,670 I know of one free charger at a city facility, 919 00:51:39,830 --> 00:51:40,670 not in some Prairie. 920 00:51:41,670 --> 00:51:45,030 That is utilized by somebody who has this Uber rides. 921 00:51:46,030 --> 00:51:47,830 Rides. And so they're, they're, you know, they're making money 922 00:51:47,970 --> 00:51:50,100 on the use of the vehicle and then using a 923 00:51:50,100 --> 00:51:52,300 free charger to offset that. 924 00:51:53,070 --> 00:51:55,370 So I, you know, I feel that it's appropriate to 925 00:51:55,370 --> 00:51:55,700 charge. 926 00:51:57,370 --> 00:52:00,470 I don't know that we really want to disproportionately incentivize 927 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,230 one group of, you know, 928 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,100 travelers based on the, you know, vehicle that they choose 929 00:52:05,100 --> 00:52:05,800 to purchase. 930 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,700 Stankey mm-hmm any questions from. 931 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,030 Our virtual attendees. 932 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:17,030 None for me. 933 00:52:19,830 --> 00:52:20,000 Okay. 934 00:52:20,970 --> 00:52:23,800 Oh, I did wanna note the w P P I 935 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,300 board of directors meeting that has actually been canceled. So 936 00:52:26,300 --> 00:52:29,000 the October 23rd meeting, that's listed there that. 937 00:52:29,270 --> 00:52:30,230 Is no longer happening in WASA. 938 00:52:31,830 --> 00:52:33,930 and, and the October 22nd. 939 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,000 Executive committee is now here in Sun Prairie. 940 00:52:37,070 --> 00:52:40,070 Okay. All right. 941 00:52:41,070 --> 00:52:43,030 Sounds good. Stankey Stankey. 942 00:52:44,700 --> 00:52:48,100 Moving along item seven referrals. Do we hear any referrals? 943 00:52:49,070 --> 00:52:49,830 Referrals for staff. 944 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,300 Although, not a referral. I would like to thank. 945 00:52:57,300 --> 00:52:58,430 And recognize that. 946 00:52:59,370 --> 00:53:02,030 This month, the packet was out on Wednesday. 947 00:53:03,070 --> 00:53:07,300 Appreciated for those of us that have to read through 948 00:53:07,300 --> 00:53:09,430 243 pages. . 949 00:53:10,230 --> 00:53:14,000 I understand that that's not always going to be possible, 950 00:53:14,100 --> 00:53:16,030 but it was noted and appreciated. 951 00:53:17,630 --> 00:53:19,500 Stankey we're, we're gonna do our best. We really wanna 952 00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:20,600 try to meet that deadline. 953 00:53:21,770 --> 00:53:24,100 Excellent. Any other referrals or comments? 954 00:53:25,270 --> 00:53:28,030 Comments item eight, a set. The date of the next 955 00:53:28,030 --> 00:53:30,000 meeting is Emalyn still online. 956 00:53:32,700 --> 00:53:34,370 Oh, I'm here. I'm here. 957 00:53:35,630 --> 00:53:36,930 It is October 19th. 958 00:53:37,830 --> 00:53:42,100 2026. What time should we meet at 4 30, 4 30. Where should 959 00:53:42,100 --> 00:53:42,770 we meet? Oh, 960 00:53:43,570 --> 00:53:47,830 four 30, I think at the current location on Linero. 961 00:53:48,070 --> 00:53:51,300 Okay. Excellent. So we'll meet right Heron Lynwood drive in. 962 00:53:51,970 --> 00:53:54,100 Folks who cannot attend in person should do so online. 963 00:53:54,230 --> 00:53:54,970 Is that correct? 964 00:53:57,070 --> 00:53:58,570 Yes, please. Okay. 965 00:53:59,570 --> 00:54:02,700 along item nine, you might as well stay. Please stay 966 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:03,830 unmuted there. Emalyn. 967 00:54:04,970 --> 00:54:06,830 Would you like to make a motion to adjourn? 968 00:54:07,970 --> 00:54:11,430 Adjourn. I would love to make a, I make a 969 00:54:11,430 --> 00:54:12,470 motion to adjourn. 970 00:54:13,630 --> 00:54:14,800 Adjourn. Okay. Do I hear this from today's meeting? Do 971 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,230 I hear, is there a second? . 972 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:20,070 Do I hear a second? 973 00:54:21,070 --> 00:54:24,670 L second before we adjourn. Did I hear October, October 26th 974 00:54:24,670 --> 00:54:26,470 or October 19th? October 19th. 975 00:54:28,470 --> 00:54:29,000 I said 19. 976 00:54:30,030 --> 00:54:31,070 Stankey yep. 977 00:54:32,100 --> 00:54:32,270 Third Monday. 978 00:54:34,430 --> 00:54:37,830 I have motion to motion and a second to adjourn. 979 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,070 Adjourn with no further comment. 980 00:54:42,100 --> 00:54:44,800 All those in favor of adjournment, please indicate by saying 981 00:54:44,870 --> 00:54:45,700 aye. Aye. 982 00:54:47,570 --> 00:54:49,600 Aye those opposed. 983 00:54:50,700 --> 00:54:53,270 The aye. Have it in the are done.