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Welcome, and good afternoon to the regular council meeting in the Mayor and the city council of the city of some valley, and call the meeting to order at 4 p.m. on September 3, 2026, the roll call, council President Griffith, council member of the dearest.

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Here.

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Come to the back, here.

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Come to the bridge.

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Come on, here.

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Pleasure to lead you.

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I'd like to call on Sergeant Sean O'Brien,

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who is visiting us from the Corvus case course,

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and light in the occasion that we will just have after this.

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Sergeant, could you lead us in the plate, please?

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Yes, sir.

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in the state of America, and in the state of the Republic for which it stands,

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the formation of your God in this world, with every and in this world.

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Thank you.

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In light of our great attendance,

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I'm going to move things up a little bit in the agenda.

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Chief Orchard would you come forward please and talk to us.

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Thank you, Mayor and Council.

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First off, we'll start with some promotions.

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within the Police Department. We've had some officers work very hard and one of those officers

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has achieved the rank of Corporal, which we know entails over a thousand hours of training,

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including the Emergency Medical Responders course, which has been very beneficial to the

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as we move forward. To start off with, I would like to call up Kyle Bryan.

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I could recognize him as one of our newest corpus and his brother, who was a sergeant

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with Clovis PD and he is going to go ahead and pin him as a new corpus.

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I

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think she's taking with her, but as usual, I'm standing up there.

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I'm marching in there.

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Don't take the, you know, not below the base.

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I believe it's all.

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Come on, one.

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Oh, this is another one.

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Hi, Mom.

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She should be in the room.

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How about one with just the brushes in Mom?

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Yeah, can I have Kyle's leather or rather come up?

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I'm sure.

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Yeah, the leather is so strong and I'm retired.

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I'm going to tell him when you hired a patrol.

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Wow.

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Thank you all.

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Okay.

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Now I would like to recognize.

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So within the department, once you promoted to Corkhole,

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you have the opportunity when we have those openings

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to promote the sergeant.

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Since we had our Lieutenant's retire after 29 and 32 years,

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We did promote. We had a rigorous testing process and an interview process where we did end up promoting

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two over our officers, two sergeants, and I would like to have Austin Hafer, and Brian Davis come up with their wives,

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because they are going to pin them as the Arneus sergeants.

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Okay,

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I'll say I have one more award issue.

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As I said, part of the EMR program has been very beneficial to this city.

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As a result of that, I would like to recognize Corporal O'Brien to come up.

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Again,

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so on July 17th, 2026, Corporal O'Brien responded out to Trial Creek Caton, where

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The medical emergency had occurred where an individual had sustained a substantial hemorrhage

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and arterial bleed.

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Kyle was able to keep a level head, apply a turnicate, and direct pressure as a result

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of his trainings, and as a result of that, the physicians were able to do some corrective surgery

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and make the statements that, because of his quick action, he was able to keep the individual

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from extanguation and preserve his life.

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So, I would like to present Kyle with a life-saving award.

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Thank you.

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Going through the mundane things.

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Let's start with council comment.

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Michelle?

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Nothing.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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Congratulations.

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Thank you all for your service.

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Thank you.

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Nothing for me?

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Keith?

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Yes.

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I just wanted to reiterate something I brought up.

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As of October we were considering the Oklahoma Secularists and that is the field of the very beneficial to the city, both from the cross-saving standpoint and from the north, from the safety standpoint.

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To consider at the next council meeting a discussion only on banning through every choice on the board road.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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Look.

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Look on it.

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City of Minnesota, Connet.

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No comment, Mr. Mayer.

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Thank you.

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Then it's my turn.

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I do have an announcement to make.

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Just a while ago, a very valuable and long standing employee.

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Or the City of Sun Valley, a retired man.

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I'm going to talk to you about Karen Stavich from the Street Department.

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And he served in the city for 37 outstanding years of service.

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The plaque that we have presented to him, or we'll give him, says your dedication has made

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a lasting impact on the city, enjoy your well-deserved retirement, to the State Department

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in 1889 to 2026, so a little note, thank you, Terrence, for your service and please enjoy

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your retirement.

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Thank you.

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Okay, let's go right into the agenda then.

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Item number one, and this is the public hearing, recommendation to hold the public hearing

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and approved resolution 20, 20, 26, ZF-Z.

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Order 9, a resolution of the city of Sun Valley, Idaho, reserve in the foregone amount for fiscal year 2027 for potential use in subsequent years as described in Idaho Code 63-802 at all. Mr. Keating.

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Thank you Mr. Mayor Jim Keating City Administrator, City of Sun Valley. You will recall, council from our 2427 budget process.

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Council approved a budget to property tax that did not take the full 3% increase allowed under

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Idaho code. That difference between what we could take versus what we did take quates

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to about 87,651 dollars, which can be considered for, quote, reservation under the same code as

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forgong revenue. A final resolution and a public hearing is required by Idaho code to make

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that reservation of dollars in any given budget year.

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That resolution for consideration is before you

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as resolution 2026-09.

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Our staff recommendation is to hold the public hearing

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and approve resolution, pending that hearing,

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approve resolution 2026-09,

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preserving the stated four-gun amount

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for fiscal year 2027.

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Thank you, comments or questions by Council before I open up the public hearing.

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Okay, I will open up for that for public comment on this agenda item number one if you would like to say anything.

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Please approach the podium, tell us who you are, and try to keep your remarks to each three minutes or less.

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We have anybody online for me that has indicated interest.

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We do have fellow people online, if somebody would like to comment on this item, the resolution

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of reserving the floor on a map, please raise your hand.

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I do see one person with their hand raised, so I will unmute you.

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Never mind, they have taken their hand down.

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Okay.

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I will close the public comment section of this agenda item.

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Council, deliberation, comments.

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Question or motion.

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I move through a proof resolution 2026-1989, the resolution of the City of Somnalia.

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I don't know what you're referring to for no one in the night.

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On the first of the year, 2027, from potential use in the subsequent years,

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as described in the night of a COVID-19,

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second and 63-8 or two without.

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Second and second.

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You have a second?

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I have a discussion.

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Well, yes, Michelle.

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Yes.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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If you'd like to begin, I have a number two.

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Recommendation to hold a public hearing, hold the first reading by Title Loli, and in fact

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ordinance number five, nine, zero, an ordinance of the City of Sun Valley, Idaho, amending

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the Sun Valley, Official Zoning Map by changing the Zoning District designation of T.L.

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eight six six nine zone four are one two RES one and assigning an R S one zoning to the current

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that comes on the parcel TL eight six seven zero and TL eight six seven one associated

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with ZMA 2026 dash zero one.

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Thank you mayor for the introduction I will try to project my voice towards the owl as well

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for the people on Zoom, but I know that that is not a strength of mine.

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So as noted, this first application is the rezoning application.

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There are actually two items on the agenda tonight,

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both related to the same parcels of land.

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This is the rezoning application following this is the application,

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as a preliminary plot application for a subdivision

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to reconfigure the parcels that you can see up there

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on the screen as well as long as soon.

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So, first and foremost, I want to note that our own zoning code here in Sun Valley,

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we require land that is zoned OR1 in old like a seasoning district to be re-zoned prior

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to or concurrent with any other land use application effect being land.

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So, that is one of the reasons why this application is before the council.

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The other reason is that the land or the parcels you can see on the map on the screen that

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shaded in yellow, the majority of that consists of, if not all, consists of old, right of

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way, so public right of way.

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In the city of Sun Valley, we do not assign zoning to rights of way. When this land was vacated through two different city council actions in the 2010s, zoning was not applied to this land at that time.

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And so, because these parcels, these tax lots are part of the application and under the same ownership that is associated with the preliminary plot, it is necessary to apply zoning at this time.

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So, Zaland that's in yellow is currently in zone, Zaland that's in red, that I would say

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a small portion of the entirety of the subject parcels is currently zoned OR1, and then

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everything shown on the screen and green is already zoned RS1, which is for single family.

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So, as these two applications are related, I'll kind of touch on the everyone as well,

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But, essentially, the largest parcel you can see there in green currently has a single

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family home on that piece of land and the two kind of irregular shape larger parcels

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behind that, those are actually two plated lots of record that were plated by the city.

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I believe in 1972 as part of the prospector subdivision number two.

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So those already have the RS1 zoning on them and those three parcels are eligible for single-family home development.

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So with all of that, from the staff standpoint and from the Planning and Zoning Commission standpoint,

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because they did review these applications previously and recommend approval unanimously.

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are S1 zoning is the appropriate zoning district to assign to both the vacated right of

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way as well as that smaller section in red that's currently zoned OR1. Ration off for

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that is part because it really isn't a best practice to split zone parcels and by that

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I mean it's not a best practice to apply multiple different zoning districts to the same parcel

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land. Two, all of the other development in this area, aside from the golf course. So all of

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the residential development in this area is residential single family. So again, it makes sense

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to stay consistent with that. As the proposed subdivision action is to have that action

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result in two loss eligible for one single family has each. I do know there has been some public

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comment related to perhaps other zoning districts that could fit here.

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I do want to note that the OR-1 zoned parcel that kind of surrounds the outer boundaries

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of these parcels.

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That's one large contiguous parcel that is owned by Sun Valley Company.

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Part of it is developed as a golf course.

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And part of it is the steeper hillside that rises up to the east.

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They've never as a property owner come in and subdivided that and parcel that out.

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It's Zoned O R1, which is the legacy zoning district we no longer have on the books here in Sun Valley,

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and it stood for open recreation.

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So essentially it was one zoning district that combined both open spaces uses and recreation.

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We as the city did away with that zoning designation I believe in 2006,

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and we now have one zoning district for open space, one for recreation.

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at some point in time in the future that property may need to get

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rezoned to something different but at this point in time the subject

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applications are requesting RS1 zoning and through the staff analysis that

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is found to be the appropriate zoning designation for this land. So since it's

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concurrent applications I know that we can cover both together and open the

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public hearing and have comments address both so I can move to this

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subdivision application next and I will go change the image on the screen

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really quickly.

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I'll start with this one although the other I think really

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pertinent images the topography map below this but to talk specifically about

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the proposed subdivision. As you can see on this screen there are kind of two

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large black outline parcels. Those are the two proposed new parcels that would

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become the big well subdivision.

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Lots one would contain the existence.

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Sting home, and that is the parcel where you can see the outline of the footprint of a structure within the pink box, which is the proposed building envelope.

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Lot 2 would be at the rear, and that lot would have its access come from the dead end of the existing prospector road right away.

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And as you can see on the screen, in kind of the shaded darker gray color, that is where the proposed new private driveway,

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and fire apparatus turn around or proposed to be constructed.

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That would serve that lot in the back and ready it for future development, perhaps at some point time in the future.

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So, in going through both the subdivision and the preliminary plot process with planning and zoning commission.

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As the council saw, we did receive quite a bit of public comment.

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And I also want to note that we've received two new public comments in the past 24 hours related to these applications.

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which have been transmitted to council.

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So as noted in the staff report, it's really the subdivision application that has more,

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I would say, analysis and special conditions recommended for consideration by council,

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so we'll cover those now.

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So first and foremost, the planning and zoning commission did recommend two special

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conditions that were approval.

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They're noted in the staff report.

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One was in response to public comment, and it was a recommended condition from the commission

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that the driveway access and fire apparatus turn around that will be installed as part of

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this subdivision option that those have an asphalt surface at this time.

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The applicant is currently proposing to have that surface and gravel.

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So it's a discretion of the council to require that to be paved now or not impose that

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mission or perhaps the place, some other, some other alternatives such as a plot note

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stating that shall be paid in the future at the time that building permit, or design

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review rather, or design review, building permit or saw.

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So I just want to note that the recommendation of P and Z was to have a condition that

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required it to be asphalt, correct?

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And how did the asphalt now?

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So it's part of the subdivision application that the driveway in the dark proportion,

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as well as the spur for the fire apparatus turnaround. Those will be constructed. They've then

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designed to withstand the weight of fire apparatus and because it's a private driveway,

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not a private street, it's a private driveway, it can be a gravel surface with no need for a special

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condition. So some of the public comment brought up the potential for kind of like dust and impacts and

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things like that with future residents using that driveway, delivery, trucks, etc.

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So, paving it would mitigate that impact and that is especially, that's why the commission

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recommended that.

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But again, I just want to note it is discretionary and it's up to the council to decide

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whether to impose that now or at some future point or to let that be discussed at some

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point in time in the future if a design review application comes forward.

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So those are the options there.

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The second recommendation from the planning and zoning commission, which staff also supports and discusses in the staff report,

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is that we utilize the existing topography to establish record grade for the property.

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We are our scope specifically allows for that.

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Our definition of record grade states that through a plotting exercise or plot action,

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record grade can be reestablished.

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So, due to limitations with the 1964 survey, both with how that survey was conducted, plus land

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alteration that's occurred over time.

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On the staff side, I don't recommend using that as record-grade going forward.

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I think there's too much room for uncertainty there, but we have current topography, and I

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think it's appropriate to use that now because we have a very granular one-foot contour interval,

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So it makes it a lot more objective to establish where the contours are and use those going forward as a baseline.

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So the Commission recommended did that as well.

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And so that is also the staff recommendation and that's included in the draft by news effect.

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So those were the two main recommendations that came out of the planning and zoning commission process.

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Other things I'd like to touch on are

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Disturbance of 25% or disturbance of slopes, record grades, slopes,

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greater than 25%. So our code definitely speaks to this. We are all very aware of our

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hillside ordinance and the intent behind that to protect our hillside from disturbance and

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to just generally protect our lands from development and sensitive areas. So again, one of the

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challenges was trying to rely on the 1964 survey is kind of dispute over record grade,

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wasn't altered before 1964, you know, how much can we rely on those

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topography lines to show 25% slopes, etc.

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So, staff's recommendation, when we use the current topo, then we can clearly see where 25% slope is, and then we can evaluate that against our code.

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So, due to a tax amendment, a couple of years back, we now have specific allowances, where disturbances to record grade 25% slope can be permitted.

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There are two that I find to be applicable here, one allows for the disturbance of slope that are the toe of a slope.

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So if you're familiar with the typography of Fairway Road and this general vicinity, the hillside rises at behind.

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And so I would characterize this area where the road, not roadside.

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Driveways proposed to be the toe of a slope.

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So our code specifically allows for some minor encroachments into that area, provided doing so doesn't push development further up the hill.

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So when you look at this proposal here, the just the way the land is in the ownership where that land, the lot at the back isn't up hill from where the road is, up hill rises this direction.

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So I find that to be an applicable allowance for that disturbance.

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The other applicable allowance is specifically to construct access that needs to meet

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fire code standards.

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So we are aware from earlier after Title VII that drive ways cannot exceed a 7% slope unless

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there is special approval from the fire chief and that it cannot exceed 10% at all under any

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circumstance.

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So, again, this is already a previously disturbed flat earth section of the land that is subject

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to this application.

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So, using that existing flatter road bend and grading it appropriately to truly attribute those

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slopes and the necessary widths and then install retainage and things like that.

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So, the hillside state stable does require some encroachment into some 25% slope as indicated

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of the applicant's plan. But again, it's for access. What will point out as well is that

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any subdivision application, any time you establish a building envelope, the building envelope must

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contain no greater than 50 percent or no greater than 50 percent of the square footage in the

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envelope can be above 15 percent. 50 percent of the square footage has to be between 0 percent

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low and 15, no percentage of the building on below can contain 25% slope.

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So neither of these building envelopes contain 25% slope, and they both exceed that requirement

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that at least half of the building on below has slopes 15% or less.

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So these subdivision application is not proposing to facilitate in any way a home being constructed

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on a steeply sloped area.

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furthermore in the staff report, I characterize as areas as mid-slope, fairly wrote as further

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downslope, back payway in established plated subdivision area is upslope above this and

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then the hillside goes beyond that.

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So in terms of other aspects of our hillside ordinance, visibility, homes being located on hillside,

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ridge lines, ridge tops, summits, et cetera, these neither of these two lots meet those characteristics.

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So I just wanted to note that because that was heavily brought up in public comment.

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The other couple of things I'd like to point out are a special condition recommended by the

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commission as well as staff that, and this is kind of what goes without saying, but sometimes it's

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to include these for redundancy. But part of the grading plan as proposed currently includes

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some grading within the right of way, the prospective road right of way, some grading on

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some valley company property. We as a city don't issue permits for people to do work on land they

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don't know. So we included a special condition of approval at the PNZ level that permission from

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on Valley Company needs to be obtained prior to disturbing land that they own, and then through

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the city's process, prior to issuing a grading permit for that construction and encroachment

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permit would also be necessary.

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I had kind of an old holdover stating that perhaps getting that permission from Sun Valley Company

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to do the grading permit prior to Council's review of this application should occur at the

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This is a holdover in the staff report, so I just wanted to note that really what's appropriate is to have permissions from the landowner prior to the actual work occurring.

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It's also possible that the applicant team could kind of send us some of the alignment and not need to make those encroachments.

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The civil plans have been reviewed by the city.

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And our found to be achievable, meet all code standards, et cetera, but they aren't the final construction plans, so that would come at the time of a grading permit application.

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So the other thing you want to touch on is, again, kind of a need for a retaining wall or an easement. This one's a lot more minor, because all of the land is controlled by the property owner, but it is a recommended special condition of approval that,

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But, either, again, the grading kind of gets the nest so that the fire apparatus turnaround

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does not need potential future maintenance as access from lot one, or that there is a

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spring easement put in place so that at such time lot two would be sold and easement would

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go into effect that would allow future maintenance of the retaining walls that are necessary

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adjacent to the fire apparatus turnaround.

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So this one's kind of a detail, but I think as we've learned recently with other applications,

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it's really important to have those easements in place, because although there's one owner

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of all this land today that may not be the case in the future, and since the fire apparatus

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turnaround is necessary, from the fire code standpoint, being able to maintain that in the future

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is also necessary. So the last thing I'll point out because this is also come up in public comment.

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I didn't touch on it in the staff report, but in terms of access, this is the preferred

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recommended access from the fire department in the city engineer.

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Because it's the flatest access to that rear lot.

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We actually on the staff side even suggested to the applicant early on to explore coming off

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of the back payway up above.

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We thought perhaps there would be gentler grades or just a shorter distance.

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We also asked them to explore trying to work with some valley company to come through.

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Look, of course, those were suggestions that we cannot require people to go out and obtain land they do not own.

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So this applicant owns this land here and because of the relative less steep nature of it,

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this is the access that staff recommends.

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The other piece to know about, gosh, I'd one more thought on Access, but I just lost it.

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But essentially, that was a really important piece.

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The other thing, which I just remembered the point, was that when city council

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vacated the lower section of Prospector Road, within our warehouse clause and that ordinance,

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we acknowledged that the public right of way was being vacated

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So, that in the future, whoever owned those two lots could install a private driveway through that land to access them.

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So, we, the city, did that in the memorialized that back in 2013 through the action that turned the public land into private land.

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So, it's been known for decades from 1972 when the two rear loss were plated, that that's where access would come from.

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and it was reaffirmed in 2013 that that be where a driveway goes.

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Now, granted, applicants can always find a explore better solution.

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We're happy to entertain it, but from the staff side, we feel the applicants did that,

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and that this is the best point of access.

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So, with that, I think I've covered all of the pertinent points of the staff report.

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I hope I'm not missing anything, but we do have the applicant team here who will present as well,

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And then I'm happy to see them for any questions.

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Nice to have a question now.

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So the back two lots were contemplated

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to be accessed off of the vacated public right of once.

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What was the contemplated access for the other parcels?

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So the other parcels are, I would call them

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remnant lots.

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They're essentially land-locked tax-lot parcels

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that over the course of time, the subject property owners acquired, I think I believe largely

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from Sun Valley Company because that's what surrounds them.

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Those tax lots never went through a plotting process with the city.

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So aside from the larger tax lot that has the home on it that obviously the city reviewed

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and approved and allowed that home to be built, the other smaller pieces have never been

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put forward to the city to be developed and there would be a different process, should

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someone want to or try to, let's say,

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bill it on that, 4500 square foot,

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part that's owned over one.

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Cities generally go through a process

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of determining how did that tax law come to be,

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was it through a legal purpose,

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or was it parceled off by deed?

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Sometimes cities will make a ruling that,

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that tax law was created in a way that isn't valid,

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and so you can't put a home on it.

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Other times, and the softened comes into play

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with like mining claims,

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It existed as its own parcel for a very, very long time.

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On time, hundred years, and so the city recognizes, okay, you can build something on it.

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And the large parcel with the house that's shown there was always contemplated to come off of the, yeah, off of the Colta Sack.

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Okay, thank you very much.

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I'd like them to take in a motion, have their antenna motion, to respond any action on these two items for a reasonable amount of time not to exceed 60 days.

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The reason for that is I believe there are a lot of loose energy here.

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This morning, we received a very detailed objection from one of the neighbors, which is not a subject of being adjudicated at this point.

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We've got letters from attorneys to deal with.

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I don't feel comfortable and making a decision on this until I had an opportunity to consult with our city attorney to guide us on what the proper course of action is.

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to many of this seems like a very complicated issue, and if we should do it right, not to

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conclusions, what they swayed by the volume of the letters in opposition. I think we have

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to reasonably take any opposition into account. And at the same time, we shouldn't be swayed

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letters or comments in favor of, I think we need to have the opportunity, as I said, to consult

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with our attorney and give this reasonable amount of time to adjust everything that's before

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us now, rather than just jumping in and making a decision now, they don't need to not be

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such that you can change it.

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Is there any counsel support for key stocks for you to postpone this?

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We're not asking for the form of information.

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I don't hear any support for that, so can I conclude then we're able to proceed with these

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Matt or what we're stepping on a year, it keeps us making much of our eyes a second to do.

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We'll be going all the time of later to you, you're still in the midst of your public hearing.

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So, Brittany, what are you looking at?

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Yes.

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Other gravel roads in the sort of fairway area?

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Gosh, I did not do an analysis, but I'll just mention again, I know, road driveway.

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Sorry.

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Yes, I did not do in analysis of that, but yes, strike way, not right.

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No trouble.

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Other questions with us for ripping?

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Yeah.

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I have a couple of it, but I understand this correctly.

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You said that way back when there were two parties?

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Yes.

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Two parties lost.

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So, they could have been built on.

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Correct.

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So, this is, if I understand this, you're actually taking a bunch and you're just

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making too bad.

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But so, you're almost lessening the density.

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That's correct.

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And that's how staff looks at it.

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I look at it as three existing, I'd say, buyable development parcels.

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And that's a, and then consolidating those three down to just two

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through the subdivision action.

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Okay.

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10 to the second. I guess I, what is this black stuff here? What is that?

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Yeah, so the black indicates where the private driveway will be constructed more or less.

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Then what is this?

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Yep, so then the black, the spur, is the fire apparatus turnaround, which is required due to the length of that driveway.

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And then kind of the little offsets, those represent the proposed retaining wall.

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And then beyond that, there's kind of a hash mark that gets closer to the building on

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below.

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That is not proposed to be constructed at that time at this time, remember?

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It was drawn in there to show it's viable to reach that proposed building on

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below, and also that there's adequate space to build a second fire apparatus

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turnaround, which would be necessary at the time of construction of a home, again, due to

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the length of that road.

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It's driving, driving, driving, sorry.

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I also read a number of the letters that we received regarding this issue mentioned open space.

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And I remember way back when we talked.

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What about O.R.1? O.R.1 is not open space. O.R.1 is open recreational. And I think we went through this when we talked about this, everybody said, well, don't be noticed. It's not, and it was a little meant to be open, recreation and with certain nuances and certain requirements and certain restrictions.

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But the fact that it was too flat a lot back there for an awfully long time, it shouldn't

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ever have been considered or recognized as a built-in space.

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I think they're talking about the pink one, but even on our one has allowable uses among them

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a campground.

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You could do a lot on that lot.

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The other thing on the RS1 zoning district, the minimum lot size is 20,000 square feet.

446
00:40:53,860 --> 00:41:03,040
So even if there was a strong feeling that the 4,000 square foot plus minus section should be zoneed open space or recreation going forward,

447
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,920
that would not preclude want one or lot to from being constructed.

448
00:41:07,580 --> 00:41:12,200
There's about, and again, rough numbers, about 200,000 square feet here.

449
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,340
So if zoning was the way the city wanted to go, that could happen.

450
00:41:17,340 --> 00:41:25,180
The home sites, as you can see, the building on the looks, would be outside of that OR1 slash potentially other zone at the end.

451
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:31,620
And then the former vacated, right of way, currently has no zoning on it.

452
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,000
So, it's not a matter of going from OR1 to something else, it's a matter of applying zoning.

453
00:41:37,580 --> 00:41:42,080
That could have been done back in 2010 and 2013. It didn't happen at that time.

454
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:50,440
So this would be establishing zoning for that area, at this point in time, and since it's proposed to be a driveway to serve a single family house lot,

455
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,240
RS1 zoning is the most logical appropriate zoning district for that.

456
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:02,020
Matt, can I open up the public comment?

457
00:42:02,020 --> 00:42:12,080
On agenda item number two and three together or do we need to open them separately, you can allow people to comment on this.

458
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,660
Okay, so we would, I'll say thank you very much.

459
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:25,100
We'll say we will open public comment regarding agenda item number two and three.

460
00:42:25,720 --> 00:42:30,120
And take note of that and then we will come back to council for the deliberation.

461
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,160
You want to do that before the applicant?

462
00:42:32,820 --> 00:42:32,940
Yes.

463
00:42:32,940 --> 00:42:34,820
Oh, would the applicant like to?

464
00:42:34,820 --> 00:42:35,540
We was.

465
00:42:36,500 --> 00:42:37,580
Please step forward.

466
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:38,300
I apologize.

467
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:39,120
Thank you.

468
00:43:00,910 --> 00:43:01,570
Good afternoon.

469
00:43:01,810 --> 00:43:02,970
Mayor and city council.

470
00:43:03,390 --> 00:43:04,930
I'm Elizabeth Kécritz.

471
00:43:04,930 --> 00:43:06,190
I'm land use council.

472
00:43:06,850 --> 00:43:07,910
On behalf of the applicant,

473
00:43:08,170 --> 00:43:09,110
my dress is 601.

474
00:43:09,970 --> 00:43:11,430
Banic drive, voice the Idaho.

475
00:43:11,610 --> 00:43:12,890
I'm with given's personally.

476
00:43:14,130 --> 00:43:17,410
I'm also with me today is Tom Pregustus.

477
00:43:17,410 --> 00:43:20,830
He is representing the owners of this group.

478
00:43:20,830 --> 00:43:27,050
of these properties, as well as Dave Patrie, our land use planner, they will be able to answer

479
00:43:27,050 --> 00:43:32,190
the questions I cannot, including if you have any specific questions on how these

480
00:43:32,190 --> 00:43:37,810
parcels came to be all under one ownership, what that history is, and then maybe some of

481
00:43:37,810 --> 00:43:45,230
the more specific details about setbacks, that sort of thing. It's been a while since I've been

482
00:43:45,230 --> 00:43:51,930
So I'm really happy to be back here in front of you guys. I do want to start by saying thank you to Brittney

483
00:43:51,930 --> 00:43:59,890
She has been a really helpful to this whole process. It's so nice to come here and have land use planners that call you back

484
00:43:59,890 --> 00:44:05,390
He may be back the really help walk you through this and so you guys are really lucky to have her here

485
00:44:06,790 --> 00:44:11,250
What we believe we are here is on a fairly simple

486
00:44:11,250 --> 00:44:13,830
Resown and preliminary platt.

487
00:44:14,490 --> 00:44:18,050
We're taking essentially three, as the mayor just noted,

488
00:44:18,530 --> 00:44:23,250
three buildable locks and reducing them to two buildable locks.

489
00:44:23,470 --> 00:44:25,270
One of them already has a lot on it.

490
00:44:25,710 --> 00:44:28,810
With that, there are in total eight different

491
00:44:28,810 --> 00:44:31,390
remnant parcels that came about through

492
00:44:31,390 --> 00:44:33,830
a long confusing history,

493
00:44:34,790 --> 00:44:39,010
but they are all now and have been since 2014 under the ownership

494
00:44:39,010 --> 00:44:43,810
of the dump key family or their company, ECD.

495
00:44:44,790 --> 00:44:46,930
And so at this time, we are in agreement

496
00:44:46,930 --> 00:44:50,790
with all of the recommended conditions of approval,

497
00:44:50,870 --> 00:44:53,570
except for the one about paving, which we'll discuss.

498
00:44:54,790 --> 00:44:56,750
And let's go on with this.

499
00:44:57,130 --> 00:44:58,790
So here is the rezone.

500
00:44:58,910 --> 00:44:59,970
Brittany already covered this.

501
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:11,760
This in really good detail. The family's underlats since 2014. There's 10 parcels in total. It's hard to tell, but just even that drive is three separate parcels.

502
00:45:13,260 --> 00:45:20,120
And so now they really want to just clean up these lotlines and turn it into the parcel where the house currently exists.

503
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:27,240
And then one second parcel instead of having 10 separate lots floating around out there.

504
00:45:27,240 --> 00:45:33,820
There has been recently the argument when it was made previously, too, that the property needs to be

505
00:45:33,820 --> 00:45:39,420
zoned to recreation because that is what conforms to the future land use map.

506
00:45:40,380 --> 00:45:49,300
I would submit that is absolutely not correct. The code simply requires that the zoning

507
00:45:49,300 --> 00:45:56,060
be consistent with the future land use map, not identical, and that Idaho courts have also

508
00:45:56,060 --> 00:46:00,420
recognize the consistency with the future land use map and with the

509
00:46:00,420 --> 00:46:05,620
comp plan is all that's required. It also just from a practical standpoint

510
00:46:05,620 --> 00:46:10,460
does not make sense to have some sort of recreational split zones

511
00:46:10,460 --> 00:46:15,380
property here. Here by zoning the property the whole property

512
00:46:15,380 --> 00:46:21,580
everything RS1 it doesn't change that specific little corners properties

513
00:46:21,580 --> 00:46:29,520
recreational and open space character. It creates no additional density. It has no traffic.

514
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:35,580
There's no utilities. There's no grading. There's no environmental impacts. And the building permit,

515
00:46:35,660 --> 00:46:44,020
the building envelopes just don't go into this small triangle of red OR property. The property,

516
00:46:44,020 --> 00:46:50,740
It's not developable, and so the RS zone is consistent with the recreational designation

517
00:46:50,740 --> 00:46:56,300
in this place, this case, as applied to this particular development.

518
00:46:57,240 --> 00:47:00,900
And then, throughout with the rest of the comp plan, one of the big things of resounds

519
00:47:00,900 --> 00:47:10,880
is compliance with the comp plan, and there is ample support throughout the rest of the

520
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:16,680
really just less development equals less impact on the environment. There's less grading,

521
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:22,120
there's less materials use, there's just all of the things that come along with going from

522
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:29,440
three lots to two lots. It absolutely fine support in the comp plan. Then the preliminary

523
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:35,920
plat, Brittany also did a really nice job of covering this. We are asking for a straight up preliminary

524
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:44,600
We are not asking for any special waivers, we've not requested any variances, we're not requesting any sort of special exceptions.

525
00:47:45,780 --> 00:47:50,920
Fire has looked at this and engineering has looked at this and they have approved these plats.

526
00:47:52,380 --> 00:47:56,260
Everything is absolutely totally just a city code.

527
00:47:56,260 --> 00:47:57,100
Um,

528
00:48:00,500 --> 00:48:05,160
yeah, the hydrants will go in at the time of building permit, this, the fire access

529
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:05,380
road.

530
00:48:05,620 --> 00:48:06,520
It's only being paved.

531
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,520
I think Brittany did touch on this a little bit.

532
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:15,140
It's only being constructed to the end of the darkest shaded area, which then allows

533
00:48:15,140 --> 00:48:21,500
if and when this property is sold, it allows whoever purchases it to decide how that's

534
00:48:21,500 --> 00:48:26,700
going to look going in at the last little bit, but it doesn't make sense to put in a drive

535
00:48:26,700 --> 00:48:31,900
it may not be in the final location of the people who would ultimately potentially own this

536
00:48:31,900 --> 00:48:32,460
property.

537
00:48:34,540 --> 00:48:41,620
One of the questions that has come up throughout is access in slopes and there's been

538
00:48:41,620 --> 00:48:44,940
a lot of talk about this 25-foot slope.

539
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:52,900
The approximate limits of disturbance for the driveway, it's currently about 22,000 square feet

540
00:48:52,900 --> 00:48:59,760
And the disturbance above that 25% slope that's shown there in the yellow, and that only comes

541
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:07,080
to about 1,000 square feet, which is only 4.7% of the total area above the slope line,

542
00:49:07,460 --> 00:49:12,620
which really does fit in with those code provisions that Brittany was talking about.

543
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:22,380
We do agree with all of the conditions of approval, which she did mention that one change

544
00:49:22,380 --> 00:49:29,660
to condition of approval 1B, where we have to, of course, show that Sun Valley has provided

545
00:49:29,660 --> 00:49:36,160
their approval for us to go on to their property if we have to for grading, except for

546
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:44,640
the Paving Condition. There's no immediate plans to sell this property at any time, any time

547
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:51,360
soon, and it will be held in common ownership, potentially now and for some length of time.

548
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,920
We don't want to have to pave and then repave in the future.

549
00:49:55,720 --> 00:49:58,300
This sort of the pavement on these driveways.

550
00:49:58,400 --> 00:49:59,340
I mean they're not getting used.

551
00:49:59,520 --> 00:49:59,980
It's just a tear.

552
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:10,100
We're reading out in the open air. And there are also, at this point in time, gravel makes sense, because

553
00:50:10,100 --> 00:50:15,640
there isn't going to be, there's no, there's not going to be any dust, because there's not going to be any traffic.

554
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:27,240
We are proposing that it get paved at such time as someone by, you know, purchase the property, comes before you for a designer view, goes to get their building permit.

555
00:50:27,240 --> 00:50:33,160
that's when you would do it and then they can do the whole thing all at once and to us,

556
00:50:33,500 --> 00:50:41,060
if no one's building, it's a private drive. There should be absolutely no traffic on this road,

557
00:50:41,180 --> 00:50:47,540
so it shouldn't be an issue until such time as it does go to that get developed at some point in the

558
00:50:47,540 --> 00:50:53,740
future. And with that, we would request approval of the Big Well's

559
00:50:53,740 --> 00:50:59,380
Reson and the preliminary class. Can you go back to the

560
00:50:59,380 --> 00:51:03,680
diagrams so this one? I know the one that shows the proposed

561
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,900
second lot. So the expectation is that the private

562
00:51:07,900 --> 00:51:13,760
drive is part of the newly developed or the newly created

563
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,720
Yeah, it's a great question.

564
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,660
It's a really long flag lot that includes that whole drive.

565
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,120
It's all part of that one lot.

566
00:51:24,580 --> 00:51:25,580
It's a really long flag.

567
00:51:25,580 --> 00:51:29,880
So really long flagged with the currently unveiled proposed new parcel.

568
00:51:30,500 --> 00:51:30,700
Yes.

569
00:51:30,940 --> 00:51:31,640
Thank you.

570
00:51:31,740 --> 00:51:34,600
Okay, I have a question for you on that shaded area.

571
00:51:34,980 --> 00:51:41,500
What is the current condition of the roadway?

572
00:51:42,900 --> 00:51:46,620
It's a private, it's a dirt, what is it like that?

573
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:53,400
It appears to be speed, and the owner can speak more to this, just sort of unused, it's

574
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:57,840
been used in the past, it's disturbed sort of too track, like what you have going on through

575
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:03,260
the woods, that occasionally someone drives down, but not very often, it's relatively flat,

576
00:52:03,420 --> 00:52:08,820
and it just sort of goes along the hillside there, but with lots of grass and flowers and things.

577
00:52:08,820 --> 00:52:14,120
It doesn't have any improvement in the underlying surface, is that right?

578
00:52:14,620 --> 00:52:16,140
So there was, if it was a dirt road to the...

579
00:52:16,140 --> 00:52:17,120
There has been.

580
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:18,400
This is still a dirt road.

581
00:52:18,860 --> 00:52:21,820
I'd ask Mr. Pichita to respond to that.

582
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,080
I haven't been in up there in a long time,

583
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:26,840
but one night I was up there.

584
00:52:27,300 --> 00:52:28,520
You're used to being told that.

585
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,200
Actually, I don't know.

586
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:30,940
I don't know.

587
00:52:30,940 --> 00:52:31,200
I don't know.

588
00:52:31,220 --> 00:52:31,400
I don't know.

589
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:32,320
I don't know.

590
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:33,320
I'd like to.

591
00:52:36,060 --> 00:52:38,540
David Pageary with Glean to Benchmark Engineering.

592
00:52:39,740 --> 00:52:48,420
The answer is for there's some very degraded pavement there for a portion of it and then

593
00:52:48,420 --> 00:52:50,360
it does become more of a two track.

594
00:52:51,140 --> 00:53:01,450
So it's a mix of possibly have been improved at some distant point in the past and really

595
00:53:01,450 --> 00:53:08,170
just kind of have been driven over and a new to track roadway has been made.

596
00:53:09,130 --> 00:53:18,690
Would you define to track or I think that it would be repeated traffic from vehicles that

597
00:53:18,690 --> 00:53:24,050
are able to navigate non-improved roads.

598
00:53:24,570 --> 00:53:28,970
Repeated use of that to access the area.

599
00:53:28,970 --> 00:53:30,030
Okay, thank you.

600
00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:39,600
Any other questions or comments for the panel?

601
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,780
Now, I can open up to the public comment section

602
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,420
for agenda item number two and number three.

603
00:53:54,460 --> 00:53:56,340
Setting rules of five, please.

604
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,380
If you're from the podium, tell us who you are.

605
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:04,760
And please give me three minutes or less.

606
00:54:05,500 --> 00:54:08,180
And written in your field review, online people

607
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:18,420
I'd like to comment on this item or these two applications, raise your hand above

608
00:54:18,420 --> 00:54:18,780
due.

609
00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:25,720
Thank you.

610
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,160
Good afternoon, Mr. Mayor and Council.

611
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:34,020
My name is John Lee, Mr. Stewart, and I live at 205, Prospector Row.

612
00:54:34,020 --> 00:54:41,220
So you will see it just to the west of the yellow line there.

613
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:46,900
Would you mind bringing up the next, the previous screen, that one?

614
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:55,920
I would like to even start here because the planning and zoning changed the surface of

615
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,360
that proposed road from gravel.

616
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:11,200
And polarized walk to a solid surface on my comments, because as you see, we're talking my properties here, the world is right here.

617
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,540
Which property is yours, man?

618
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,380
The red one.

619
00:55:17,460 --> 00:55:18,200
Thank you.

620
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:19,320
Thank you.

621
00:55:19,380 --> 00:55:20,000
You're welcome.

622
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:22,300
And yeah, if you can bring that down.

623
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:26,420
Okay, so you can see that the edge of my property is right there.

624
00:55:27,180 --> 00:55:29,160
Now, as you go down,

625
00:55:29,900 --> 00:55:34,060
where the upgrade for Prospector Road,

626
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:39,500
that rises up to a point just about even with my property.

627
00:55:39,500 --> 00:55:47,820
the north east line of my property and so that rises the proposal initially was a gravel, dirt,

628
00:55:48,060 --> 00:55:56,060
or a gradual up row. I had great concern about that. I lived right there, it's going to be right here over my head,

629
00:55:56,700 --> 00:56:02,960
and they're going to build it up. And so I requested that it become a solid surface.

630
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:08,280
This would be the only way that I could live there. Otherwise I would have sell my property.

631
00:56:09,500 --> 00:56:12,140
And I don't want to have to do that.

632
00:56:12,940 --> 00:56:14,220
It's not to be a solid surface.

633
00:56:15,660 --> 00:56:18,360
I've heard that it's discretionary,

634
00:56:19,060 --> 00:56:20,740
but the planning and zoning recommended

635
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,160
after listening to my remarks.

636
00:56:23,900 --> 00:56:27,300
They requested that it be solid surface.

637
00:56:28,060 --> 00:56:31,180
And I asked them also to carry that solid surface

638
00:56:31,180 --> 00:56:36,040
beyond my property line so that I don't have dust and gravel,

639
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,420
which is at first to my health.

640
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,040
It's adverse to my enjoyment of my property.

641
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:49,180
I paid millions of dollars, I've been invested millions of dollars, and I want to live there in peace.

642
00:56:50,580 --> 00:56:58,980
I'm opposed to the entire road, because I believe that it disturbs an enormous amount of hillside.

643
00:57:00,020 --> 00:57:04,200
I know that they are going to bring in bulldozers and excavators.

644
00:57:04,700 --> 00:57:08,620
They are going to move time, after time, after time.

645
00:57:08,620 --> 00:57:18,560
of soil off the earth. Now that foothill is very steep. It is alluvial soil. It's not compacted.

646
00:57:18,780 --> 00:57:25,780
It's not firm. It's alluvial soil. And when they come in there excavated to get this

647
00:57:25,780 --> 00:57:39,480
road in there where it really doesn't fit to begin with is to me absolutely astounding. I would think that this

648
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:45,480
would be in violation of your city ordinance regarding hillside disturbance.

649
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:57,220
We're talking about about 600 to 600, the defeat of drive and 600 to 650 feet of excavation

650
00:57:57,220 --> 00:58:05,220
of that material. This seems impractical, geological to me.

651
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:19,520
Thank you. And so I believe that the applicants could easily access and get access to their proposed

652
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:30,560
lot, by going through 204 big wells rub. They already have the drive in place. Initially

653
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:38,800
they said they didn't want to disturb their spring, they could build a bridge across

654
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:48,340
that spring. And then beyond the house to the proposed property is a short distance, not

655
00:58:48,340 --> 00:58:50,340
Thank you.

656
00:58:55,820 --> 00:58:57,140
Anyone else in the room?

657
00:58:58,780 --> 00:58:59,720
Let's take a comment.

658
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:00,900
Online if we can.

659
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:01,900
Okay.

660
00:59:02,380 --> 00:59:06,160
I think Stephen Coying your hand is raised and won't let me in you.

661
00:59:19,470 --> 00:59:20,270
We can hear you.

662
00:59:21,470 --> 00:59:21,610
Okay.

663
00:59:21,690 --> 00:59:22,090
Thank you.

664
00:59:22,090 --> 00:59:24,470
I want to continue to reiterate that there are

665
00:59:24,470 --> 00:59:28,310
other alternatives for this Broadway extension,

666
00:59:28,690 --> 00:59:31,730
which you may consider just trying to sleep with.

667
00:59:31,910 --> 00:59:32,350
Hold on.

668
00:59:32,690 --> 00:59:33,370
Second please.

669
00:59:33,610 --> 00:59:34,990
Could you identify yourself?

670
00:59:34,990 --> 00:59:43,090
I apologize, Stephen Coyne, resigned at 204 Prospector Root and send that up.

671
00:59:43,350 --> 00:59:44,110
Thank you.

672
00:59:49,900 --> 00:59:50,460
Thank you.

673
00:59:50,900 --> 00:59:55,340
Council Member Satch for attempting to postpone this until you all agree with me.

674
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:59,980
I hope you've solved the more with some of the what we consider to be incomplete information with you.

675
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:00,880
On occasion,

676
01:00:02,950 --> 01:00:31,590
on occasion, on occasion to accessing this law, and there's been a lot of discussion about zoning and open space and disturbance, ratios, and I disagree with a lot of them because I've taken my own measurements on this road. And the applicant who got up and said that the disturbance was only going to be so large is not telling the full story, because the new bit of this driveway requirements, especially with

677
01:00:31,590 --> 01:00:33,050
the higher the permanent crew was,

678
01:00:33,230 --> 01:00:35,150
and it'd be much larger than the existing

679
01:00:35,150 --> 01:00:37,270
but slightly more than 10 feet

680
01:00:37,270 --> 01:00:39,870
that the asphalt dilapidated asphalt

681
01:00:39,870 --> 01:00:41,910
and dirt fits with it.

682
01:00:42,190 --> 01:00:44,770
So we have that, we have the alternative studies

683
01:00:44,770 --> 01:00:48,570
for accessing this lock through the big levels,

684
01:00:48,950 --> 01:00:52,950
property of lock ones, and then we also have the impact

685
01:00:52,950 --> 01:00:55,650
and the public sentiment that was put in

686
01:00:55,650 --> 01:00:58,810
the letter that you received, where we have,

687
01:00:58,990 --> 01:01:01,570
not one person being supported with this,

688
01:01:01,570 --> 01:01:07,670
yet there's, you know, one applicant that benefits in this to all of our detriment.

689
01:01:09,510 --> 01:01:14,310
And I'm showing the sewer basically at the name on the head, with there will be so many trucks

690
01:01:15,230 --> 01:01:23,050
for excavation, for installation on the grid, grading, and under land and base work.

691
01:01:23,190 --> 01:01:29,570
And asphalt work and concrete work, it's going to be an absolute war zone for the duration

692
01:01:32,330 --> 01:01:39,570
And I just don't think that it's appropriate to approve this on the application because

693
01:01:40,130 --> 01:01:47,830
there are two of the dates that are more environmentally friendly and less impactful to the neighborhood.

694
01:01:48,550 --> 01:01:51,530
And I don't think that it has been very well caught out.

695
01:01:51,530 --> 01:01:54,170
I can come down to a little bit for a month and break it as well.

696
01:01:54,690 --> 01:01:56,170
So with that, I'll read a review.

697
01:01:56,530 --> 01:01:58,810
I'm going to start to read the first issue.

698
01:01:59,010 --> 01:02:01,150
Do you deny this or at least postpone it?

699
01:02:01,370 --> 01:02:03,650
Do you get more acquainted with the facts that can.

700
01:02:04,990 --> 01:02:05,950
Thank you.

701
01:02:06,030 --> 01:02:07,590
Thank you.

702
01:02:18,580 --> 01:02:19,140
Good afternoon.

703
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:20,360
Good afternoon.

704
01:02:20,740 --> 01:02:20,820
Good afternoon.

705
01:02:21,660 --> 01:02:22,840
My name is David Stride.

706
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:27,180
I'm with the Back Payway, Homer's Home Owners Association.

707
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,680
And I reside at 12 Back Payway.

708
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:39,680
This project, this development is directly in front of my home, I know I only have three minutes, I'm going to keep to it.

709
01:02:40,260 --> 01:02:41,140
Yes, you're welcome.

710
01:02:42,580 --> 01:02:45,360
It seems like there are three issues here.

711
01:02:45,620 --> 01:02:49,820
One is the legality of this application under the hillside ordinance.

712
01:02:50,420 --> 01:02:57,360
The second is the impact on the neighborhood and then the third is the precedent you're going to set for public policy going forward.

713
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:03,320
I want to speak primarily to the second issue, which is the impact on the neighborhood.

714
01:03:04,380 --> 01:03:10,140
But first, just quickly on the outside ordinance, it's clear me when I read that document.

715
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:16,580
That number one, there must be a regional, a regional topography map that is used.

716
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:18,660
In this case, we have that.

717
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,220
And there's no reason to dismiss it.

718
01:03:21,220 --> 01:03:28,040
And second, that there shouldn't be a majority of construction on a slope that exceeds 25%.

719
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:32,120
In this instance, we had an analysis done by the IDOL survey group.

720
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:35,300
You'll probably hear something in verbal about this.

721
01:03:35,620 --> 01:03:43,860
They conclude that 80% of this area of the new driveway would be on topography that exceeds a 25% slope.

722
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:48,780
That's an clear violation of the letter and the intent of the hillside ordinance.

723
01:03:50,140 --> 01:03:55,480
So this is not a diminimous impact on the hillside and it's not a diminimous impact to the neighbors.

724
01:03:56,680 --> 01:04:02,840
Let's be clear. This is a 600-foot long road that's going to be way over 20 feet wide.

725
01:04:03,020 --> 01:04:07,780
And after all the construction is done, the disturbance will exceed 20,000 square feet.

726
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:11,120
So the visual impact will be 20,000 square feet.

727
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:16,080
The alternative going through big wells would be less than 10 percent of that.

728
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:24,100
Secondly, all the folks in the homeowner association at BackPayway are going to be negatively

729
01:04:24,100 --> 01:04:28,640
impacted, because we're going to be looking down the barrel of a road.

730
01:04:28,740 --> 01:04:34,260
This is right between us and Valdi, and currently it's a hillside, and we will have

731
01:04:34,260 --> 01:04:39,780
headlights beaming into our living rooms that diminishes our quality of life, and it impacts

732
01:04:39,780 --> 01:04:41,720
our copy values in a negative way.

733
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:46,740
Third, you will hear from other folks that the construction of this road is going to destroy

734
01:04:46,740 --> 01:04:51,140
public access to a hiking trail, which is right on the border of this road.

735
01:04:52,100 --> 01:04:56,580
There's been no solution to the public safety issues associated with that.

736
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:59,640
There's going to be drop offs fire truck turn around.

737
01:05:00,370 --> 01:05:16,770
Not great. And there's a simple alternative that does not harm the applicant. It's simply accessing this property through another route, through their own land, through their own existing lot by extending this driveway on either side of the existing house.

738
01:05:18,110 --> 01:05:24,570
So I'll wrap it up there, thank you, I appreciate your work on this and your attention to it

739
01:05:24,570 --> 01:05:27,690
and your reading of all the public comments.

740
01:05:28,330 --> 01:05:34,530
But if you balance, if you're doing a balancing test here, on the one hand you have 26 public

741
01:05:34,530 --> 01:05:38,190
comments opposed to this, who are going to be harmed by this.

742
01:05:39,730 --> 01:05:54,530
You have 20,000 plus square foot visual impact, and three million pounds of earth, if you do the math, that's going to be removed from this hillside, which is in excess of 36,000 cubic feet.

743
01:05:54,650 --> 01:06:02,030
That's extraordinary, so this is not just some little drive way, but there's an alternative that would not be harmful to the applicant.

744
01:06:02,030 --> 01:06:08,890
And I hope that you take that into consideration and deny this application.

745
01:06:09,770 --> 01:06:10,390
Thank you.

746
01:06:10,530 --> 01:06:10,770
Thank you.

747
01:06:20,330 --> 01:06:21,250
Eric Council member.

748
01:06:21,490 --> 01:06:22,990
My name is Matt Moriarty.

749
01:06:23,070 --> 01:06:27,330
I'm an attorney for the adjacent homeowners and neighbors here.

750
01:06:27,390 --> 01:06:28,610
My address is 675.

751
01:06:28,770 --> 01:06:29,690
So I'm about to road.

752
01:06:30,550 --> 01:06:33,990
First, I just want to have you acknowledge,

753
01:06:34,050 --> 01:06:36,850
kind of on the front end that the way applicants are discussing.

754
01:06:36,850 --> 01:06:43,410
talking, there's not a rush here. Their plan is to eventually sell this law and for someone else to buy this

755
01:06:43,410 --> 01:06:50,270
lot, so there's time. Second, on the rezoning issue, I want to be clear what Sun Valley code says,

756
01:06:50,890 --> 01:07:06,710
you're looking at it, Sun Valley code 9-bb-9, and what that requires is consistency with the future of the

757
01:07:07,630 --> 01:07:12,870
section of land that is the old right away is not soaked. What is immediately next to it

758
01:07:12,870 --> 01:07:18,630
on the right is the open space designation. So you should be looking at that and I

759
01:07:18,630 --> 01:07:24,950
will acknowledge to the left is the residential. That is there but if you look at this

760
01:07:24,950 --> 01:07:32,650
as a whole what you're really looking at is how that will enable the construction of

761
01:07:35,010 --> 01:07:43,890
I would also say that the tax law up to the North that is and the flume considered for recreational use.

762
01:07:44,510 --> 01:07:48,350
Quickly, because we are short on time.

763
01:07:48,650 --> 01:07:52,970
I do want to say that historical facts previously have been considered by the Commission.

764
01:07:53,670 --> 01:07:55,670
Apparently we are bringing them up here now.

765
01:07:55,670 --> 01:08:02,410
I will note that this is part of a subdivision where it requires approval by the design committee of the

766
01:08:02,410 --> 01:08:10,350
Somalia Elcorne Association. We would add a minimum asset requirement be a special condition that they get

767
01:08:10,350 --> 01:08:18,950
that before they can start. I would also say that the alternate route here that's been discussed at large is a huge issue

768
01:08:18,950 --> 01:08:22,450
could especially considering everything that's going on.

769
01:08:23,070 --> 01:08:27,090
So the topographical map that staff is asking you to consider is brand new.

770
01:08:27,930 --> 01:08:32,710
And they're saying in acknowledging that it is based off of manipulated land.

771
01:08:33,350 --> 01:08:40,650
The 1964 map has been able to, they've been able to pull the topographical map from that,

772
01:08:40,650 --> 01:08:45,870
that is page 48 in your packet that exhibit as part of the letter.

773
01:08:45,870 --> 01:08:48,990
And it shows where the 25% grade would be.

774
01:08:49,210 --> 01:08:53,250
It makes way more sense to consider the hillside ordinance

775
01:08:53,710 --> 01:08:56,230
and the importance of this 25% slope

776
01:08:56,790 --> 01:09:00,230
that's supposed to protect the natural environment and views.

777
01:09:01,630 --> 01:09:06,690
I don't know why you would assume that a topographical map

778
01:09:06,690 --> 01:09:08,110
that was created a few months ago

779
01:09:08,110 --> 01:09:10,310
was better than one that you can be based off

780
01:09:10,310 --> 01:09:15,210
of a 1964 survey that is able to be used

781
01:09:15,210 --> 01:09:21,490
and shows that this plan, this private driveway that 600 feet is not in conformance with

782
01:09:21,490 --> 01:09:27,890
the hillside plan, with the 25% slope, at a minimum, there's a number of things that are required

783
01:09:27,890 --> 01:09:33,130
in the preliminary plaid soil studies, hydrology studies, a number of things they haven't

784
01:09:33,130 --> 01:09:34,650
been done, they're required.

785
01:09:35,390 --> 01:09:39,270
We should be requiring some of that, you should require some of that so you can know without

786
01:09:39,270 --> 01:09:43,850
it doubt that if this is the only option you know without it doubt.

787
01:09:45,370 --> 01:09:52,730
I would say for those reasons, Adam Minimum, the alternative route should be explored.

788
01:09:53,090 --> 01:09:59,970
The only evidence on the record about fire approval says that he approves the plan that is in front of you.

789
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:10,400
Today, not that there is no viable alternative. That is the only thing on the record. So when they say otherwise, I don't know what that's based on. Thank you.

790
01:10:40,500 --> 01:10:42,640
I'm going to see you working on a lot.

791
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:44,940
I believe we are some value companies.

792
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:48,300
Seconds are just customer behind Alan and company

793
01:10:48,300 --> 01:10:51,280
and bring over 800 people a year to some value.

794
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:55,260
I have lived in 200 prospector roads since 2014,

795
01:10:56,480 --> 01:11:00,780
and I've been coming to some values since the 19th week.

796
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,400
I would like to comment on a couple things.

797
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:07,660
First, the attorney for the dumb keys

798
01:11:07,660 --> 01:11:09,820
mentioned that this is a day straight forward proposal.

799
01:11:10,660 --> 01:11:12,680
This is in no way a straight forward proposal.

800
01:11:13,540 --> 01:11:15,400
The attorney for the Duncan's mentioned,

801
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:19,360
they are asking for the change in zoning

802
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:21,840
to try to limit the environmental impact.

803
01:11:22,660 --> 01:11:26,060
There is nothing they are doing as far as this post-road

804
01:11:26,060 --> 01:11:28,440
to limit the environmental impact.

805
01:11:30,230 --> 01:11:33,310
Brittany mentioned that the Sun Valley Fire Department

806
01:11:33,310 --> 01:11:34,950
approved this road.

807
01:11:35,330 --> 01:11:38,030
If you look at the amount of environmental impact

808
01:11:38,030 --> 01:11:42,130
to bring the equipment up prospector road,

809
01:11:42,790 --> 01:11:45,770
past houses and many people who have spoken today,

810
01:11:46,270 --> 01:11:49,230
and to build a retaining wall up on top.

811
01:11:49,450 --> 01:11:50,890
Versus A and Down low,

812
01:11:51,050 --> 01:11:52,450
and they're going through big wells,

813
01:11:53,050 --> 01:11:55,050
or going to the back of the heat party,

814
01:11:55,370 --> 01:11:56,470
to access this property,

815
01:11:57,130 --> 01:11:59,130
neither of those accesses changes elevation,

816
01:11:59,930 --> 01:12:01,230
or back of the envelope,

817
01:12:01,910 --> 01:12:04,150
numbers on building this road,

818
01:12:04,730 --> 01:12:06,410
and across the bridge of the vehicles

819
01:12:06,410 --> 01:12:14,950
of that elevation to where my house sits is somewhere in the room of 103 or 105 extra tons

820
01:12:14,950 --> 01:12:21,270
of carbon emission. The final thing is the white week of the road. There was talk about previously

821
01:12:21,270 --> 01:12:27,510
of what the road looked like today. I loved my dog on that road and it is impossible for me

822
01:12:27,510 --> 01:12:33,830
and my dog with a pair of boots on. There is no road there today. It pears out and turns into

823
01:12:33,830 --> 01:12:52,390
So the concept that this is just, let's come through and just lightly upgrade the road that is not that they're proposing that's not that they're asking for and so for all of those reasons as well as the widening of the existing road and the environmental impact, I would ask the council to deny this application.

824
01:12:54,740 --> 01:12:56,280
Thank you.

825
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:02,320
Anybody in the room?

826
01:13:06,590 --> 01:13:07,150
Anybody on the line?

827
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:33,880
Elizabeth Kekkerett, six-on-one Banic, Boise Idaho, for the applicant.

828
01:13:35,060 --> 01:13:38,260
This is a simple application.

829
01:13:40,180 --> 01:13:48,420
This subdivision was originally plated in 1972, all of the people that live on prospector

830
01:13:48,420 --> 01:13:54,740
drive, purchased their homes, built their homes, and moved into their homes, while this

831
01:13:54,740 --> 01:13:58,660
is what the plot showed with this access,

832
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:02,340
with an additional lot, with two extra lots.

833
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:07,340
Here, we are simply trying to reduce this

834
01:14:07,340 --> 01:14:09,820
and get rid of one of those two lots.

835
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:14,140
So we're left with just one additional building lot.

836
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:20,300
Going through here, this lot, it does have public,

837
01:14:21,480 --> 01:14:24,520
this is the access that makes the most sense.

838
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:29,180
It has direct access to a current public right of way.

839
01:14:29,260 --> 01:14:31,520
It doesn't require going up the hill,

840
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:34,540
it doesn't require going through other directions.

841
01:14:35,700 --> 01:14:41,380
It was looked at originally to, let's see,

842
01:14:41,420 --> 01:14:43,840
there's no Bible-artornative access

843
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:46,560
through the current house that exists there.

844
01:14:46,900 --> 01:14:51,560
Those accesses were looked at by Commissioner Daniel Hollis,

845
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:59,340
And by with fire and it is simply too steep, there's just no way to do it through there, to get an access through there.

846
01:14:59,660 --> 01:14:59,980
And so that...

847
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:10,120
That's why this is the most viable access, and it has direct access to a public right of way, which is something you're really looking at when you are plating these lots.

848
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:25,080
There's also within your papers. Towards the back of the application, there are some visual impact analyses that were done.

849
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:32,960
specifically was one done for 12 back payway as well as others and if you go to those,

850
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:39,120
if you're looking at this one of back payway, you see the house marked there with the yellow right there,

851
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:46,760
and then looking sort of off to the right, those are the two lots that we're talking about today.

852
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:53,860
The green is what you can see from back payway, the brown that it hasn't been colored,

853
01:15:53,860 --> 01:16:00,240
is what you cannot see. And so if you go through each of these, you can see that there really

854
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:10,940
is very, very little impact on these homes from back payway. And once again, it's only one

855
01:16:10,940 --> 01:16:11,360
lot.

856
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:28,060
A couple of other things. If we could go back to my slideshow, perfect. We have a slide here

857
01:16:28,060 --> 01:16:30,380
Where we talk about the record grade.

858
01:16:31,660 --> 01:16:37,000
One of the questions was, why don't we use that Janskorp.

859
01:16:37,900 --> 01:16:41,780
Use this old survey.

860
01:16:42,300 --> 01:16:47,800
Well, if you look at the survey, they had a more recent surveyer look at it,

861
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:51,880
and he specifically, before he would stamp this as a survey,

862
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:56,420
wrote, this map certifies only the results

863
01:16:56,420 --> 01:17:02,260
of a digitized historic map and does not certify the precise location of any feature boundary

864
01:17:02,260 --> 01:17:07,220
coordinate or elevation, all locations and dimensions depicted are approximate.

865
01:17:07,940 --> 01:17:12,840
This map is provided for planning purposes only and shall not be relied upon for design

866
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:17,000
and engineering surveying legal boundary determination or construction purposes.

867
01:17:17,860 --> 01:17:21,740
That is why we are not looking at this map.

868
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:32,620
It's old, there was a lot of difficulty when they were looking at it and when working with staff is determined that the new survey is what makes sense.

869
01:17:33,140 --> 01:17:49,320
With new technology, being able to, I don't even know how they do service anymore, I assume drones and walking around and with all the new, with all the new technology that the new survey does now make the most sense and in working with staff, that's what was decided.

870
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:56,920
And further, this survey does not show that 80% of the road is going to be onsloafed

871
01:17:56,920 --> 01:18:00,620
hillsides, even assuming that you're using this survey.

872
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:07,640
One other thing that's been brought up is about talking about the Covenants.

873
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:13,360
This property originally was burdened by Covenants from Sun Valley Company.

874
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:20,040
We recently went out, talked to Sun Valley Company, and they have at this point in time terminated

875
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:26,900
any of the real property covenants across this property, and so that is no longer an issue with this.

876
01:18:29,330 --> 01:18:37,230
And with that, we do believe this is a pretty straightforward, essentially, like a lot

877
01:18:37,230 --> 01:18:41,830
consolidation and a resound, and we do ask for your approval for this tonight.

878
01:18:44,410 --> 01:18:47,650
Yeah, I'm not sure to whom it should be addressed.

879
01:18:48,870 --> 01:18:51,310
So Mac mentioned Sun Valley Elcorn Association.

880
01:18:51,610 --> 01:18:52,770
Did you mean the Sun Valley Company?

881
01:18:53,290 --> 01:18:54,890
And it was this that you were talking about?

882
01:18:54,890 --> 01:18:59,430
It's the Sun Valley residential area association.

883
01:19:00,830 --> 01:19:04,930
And Sun Valley Jans Company, but really sorry for this,

884
01:19:05,130 --> 01:19:06,850
it was designed to set SD code.

885
01:19:07,150 --> 01:19:10,110
But it is still running with the land as far as I know.

886
01:19:10,990 --> 01:19:13,110
except for this agreement perhaps.

887
01:19:14,010 --> 01:19:15,110
I haven't seen it.

888
01:19:15,950 --> 01:19:19,230
I was just trying to make sure that I was like kind of to be a gift the whole way over there.

889
01:19:19,690 --> 01:19:19,710
Okay.

890
01:19:20,050 --> 01:19:21,110
Thank you.

891
01:19:24,310 --> 01:19:26,170
Do you have any questions?

892
01:19:26,230 --> 01:19:26,710
What's that?

893
01:19:26,710 --> 01:19:28,070
Can you disclose the public hearing?

894
01:19:28,370 --> 01:19:28,650
Yeah.

895
01:19:29,030 --> 01:19:30,270
You have any questions?

896
01:19:35,750 --> 01:19:38,730
You're representing the office where you had to terminate as a couple.

897
01:19:39,230 --> 01:19:39,710
Yes.

898
01:19:40,110 --> 01:19:41,290
Because it's not a little familiar.

899
01:19:41,610 --> 01:19:41,910
Right.

900
01:19:42,110 --> 01:19:42,670
I think that.

901
01:19:43,330 --> 01:19:43,610
Okay.

902
01:19:44,670 --> 01:19:45,270
Thank you.

903
01:19:45,730 --> 01:19:46,250
Thank you.

904
01:19:46,250 --> 01:19:54,570
At this time, I will close the public comment section of the agenda items number 2 and 3.

905
01:19:55,330 --> 01:19:59,990
Turn out to Council for questions, deliberations, or more.

906
01:20:02,060 --> 01:20:16,400
Well, I would like to renew my motion to postpone any kind of action on this on these two agenda items to a future date based on the reasons I expressed previously.

907
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:18,660
We have a motion, we have a second.

908
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:25,020
I'm coming around to that, but with time of delay, are you thinking a month, two months?

909
01:20:25,020 --> 01:20:30,260
And at least a month, perhaps 60 days, because it is a complicated thing.

910
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:34,780
I don't feel comfortable voting on this until I can consult with my intern.

911
01:20:35,260 --> 01:20:39,240
Our attorney, one-on-one, and be comfortable with that.

912
01:20:39,340 --> 01:20:42,260
What I'm doing, pro-okan, is the correct thing.

913
01:20:42,740 --> 01:20:46,080
Keith, would you be okay with that holding in the second and third meetings?

914
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:47,360
And that way in?

915
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:49,780
Well, that has a chance to go through the information.

916
01:20:49,820 --> 01:20:51,400
No, no, I would not.

917
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:55,400
Okay, we have a motion. Do we have a second?

918
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:57,980
What's the time that we're continuing to?

919
01:20:58,500 --> 01:21:01,020
I would say sixty days.

920
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:05,020
Then November meeting?

921
01:21:05,540 --> 01:21:07,480
Whatever it comes out to.

922
01:21:09,850 --> 01:21:10,230
This is...

923
01:21:10,230 --> 01:21:11,450
Say it's an November meeting.

924
01:21:13,250 --> 01:21:14,370
November fifth?

925
01:21:18,410 --> 01:21:21,190
I'm asking if you'd make the motion to...

926
01:21:21,190 --> 01:21:28,450
Continue this discussion, and then my motion to specify 16 days possible.

927
01:21:28,810 --> 01:21:30,090
Better will you with this?

928
01:21:30,250 --> 01:21:37,890
You will be in the most kind to continue the matter to the certain number of death of two thousand six.

929
01:21:38,290 --> 01:21:39,650
Yes. That's your motion?

930
01:21:40,090 --> 01:21:41,070
I had doubt that.

931
01:21:41,170 --> 01:21:41,990
Do we have a second?

932
01:21:42,330 --> 01:21:43,230
I will second that.

933
01:21:43,870 --> 01:21:46,210
We have a motion in a second for the discussion.

934
01:21:47,690 --> 01:21:49,070
Let's vote then.

935
01:21:49,070 --> 01:21:52,110
Do you? Yes, Michelle? No.

936
01:21:52,650 --> 01:21:54,970
Right? Yes. Yes.

937
01:21:56,150 --> 01:21:57,490
Three, yes or the one, no.

938
01:21:58,070 --> 01:22:01,450
We will continue this until November.

939
01:22:02,790 --> 01:22:03,090
Okay.

940
01:22:03,210 --> 01:22:03,490
Second.

941
01:22:04,490 --> 01:22:05,110
Oh, okay.

942
01:22:05,870 --> 01:22:06,190
Okay.

943
01:22:07,190 --> 01:22:08,190
What do I have to do, Matt?

944
01:22:08,390 --> 01:22:10,930
Well, Mayor, if I could, just since it's continued,

945
01:22:11,270 --> 01:22:11,910
it's about time.

946
01:22:12,690 --> 01:22:14,950
I understand you constantly know your thoughts about your thoughts,

947
01:22:14,990 --> 01:22:17,200
about your thoughts, about your thoughts, about your thoughts, about your thoughts, about your thoughts.

948
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:22,380
of the new major, but is there any particular information that the council wants to direct

949
01:22:22,380 --> 01:22:25,940
to your staff where they will not be able to have a mail over your information?

950
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:36,500
Yeah, the degree or not to which the lawsuit over Lane Ranch North and the access to private property might

951
01:22:36,500 --> 01:22:40,720
or may or may not influence this decision.

952
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:41,200
I

953
01:22:45,710 --> 01:22:52,530
would like to comment that should be any other council member, or the mayor, desire to

954
01:22:52,530 --> 01:22:57,630
consult with that, perhaps perfectly fine, and I think it's advisable.

955
01:22:58,810 --> 01:23:00,270
Thank you for letting me teach you.

956
01:23:01,290 --> 01:23:07,230
I'd have a question for Brittany to get our view of a grade between the two lots.

957
01:23:08,670 --> 01:23:12,750
I'd like to know the grade between personal one and personal two.

958
01:23:12,750 --> 01:23:16,490
Like great, great change, like elevations change.

959
01:23:17,630 --> 01:23:17,790
Okay.

960
01:23:18,550 --> 01:23:21,710
I would suggest if we do have further questions of staff

961
01:23:21,710 --> 01:23:24,130
or our attorney, we submit them,

962
01:23:24,390 --> 01:23:29,690
and we move this over for the deliberation,

963
01:23:29,950 --> 01:23:31,050
and then we'll call you in the session.

964
01:23:31,310 --> 01:23:31,810
I'm November.

965
01:23:32,890 --> 01:23:33,550
Good for that.

966
01:23:34,090 --> 01:23:34,170
Okay.

967
01:23:35,410 --> 01:23:35,670
Okay.

968
01:23:37,030 --> 01:23:40,430
Moving on to agenda item number five,

969
01:23:40,430 --> 01:23:44,150
because, again, the item number four has been built.

970
01:23:44,690 --> 01:23:47,610
The agenda item number five is the discussion and

971
01:23:47,610 --> 01:23:50,970
possible action on link, can't wait for emergency communication

972
01:23:50,970 --> 01:23:51,730
center.

973
01:23:52,570 --> 01:23:56,270
This will year 2027 funding request.

974
01:23:57,410 --> 01:23:59,050
Clerk, let it in.

975
01:23:59,790 --> 01:24:01,490
County administrator,

976
01:24:04,970 --> 01:24:06,570
I should ask, is anybody

977
01:24:06,570 --> 01:24:08,110
need to take a break right now?

978
01:24:08,870 --> 01:24:15,090
One person on my team just took a break, four minutes ago we had to do a bio break.

979
01:24:19,590 --> 01:24:20,070
We'll

980
01:24:22,470 --> 01:24:26,450
be rolling, I think we're fine, hopefully I'll join you guys this second.

981
01:24:46,570 --> 01:24:50,670
Okay, all right, you want to wait for us, either?

982
01:24:51,210 --> 01:24:52,350
He'll catch up.

983
01:24:52,550 --> 01:24:54,150
I'm sure I'd certainly hope.

984
01:24:55,830 --> 01:24:59,440
So thank you, Mr. Mayor and Council, for...

985
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:10,940
Having us back, I am Kurt Flanagan, County Administrator for Blank County, and I want to start with some introductions of our team and Kathy, you want to introduce yourself.

986
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:17,360
Hi, I'm Catherine Thomas, and I'm the Director at Blank County Emergency Communications.

987
01:25:20,020 --> 01:25:26,980
So about two weeks ago, we can have to go. I shared three documents with Mayor and the Council and the City Administrator.

988
01:25:26,980 --> 01:25:33,680
And about a four or five days after that, I shared another document to provide a little more context to the information.

989
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:41,940
So I would like to with Kathy and with Ozzy walk through calls for service.

990
01:25:43,260 --> 01:25:48,820
Speak to some financials. We sent some actual from 2014 to 2025.

991
01:25:48,820 --> 01:26:12,300
And then I want to speak to real costs, changes that we're seeing from fiscal year 26 to 27 speak very briefly to the funding matrix that determines the percentage of what jurisdictions and fire districts put in and then very quickly with next steps and we will go through this at a good pace

992
01:26:12,300 --> 01:26:18,200
So we won't be talking too long and I'd like to turn it over to Kathy to talk about the calls for service.

993
01:26:21,930 --> 01:26:39,930
Okay, so I ran some statistics from our CAD and RMS software that we use for dispatching and logging calls for all of the emergency response departments in Blankham.

994
01:26:39,930 --> 01:26:50,450
Then, I filtered these calls by calls that occurred within the city limits of Sun Valley.

995
01:26:53,110 --> 01:27:05,290
And I also filtered out a few call types that were test, fire test, and duplicates,

996
01:27:05,290 --> 01:27:13,230
because those do not reflect actual calls from citizens for service.

997
01:27:15,390 --> 01:27:24,110
So in 2022, calls occurring within City Limits of Sun Valley were 2,133.

998
01:27:24,110 --> 01:27:40,030
In 23, they were 3,591, 2024, 3,637, and 2025, 2,766.

999
01:27:41,630 --> 01:27:52,050
I did run a total calls for service with those call-co filters, but removing the Sun Valley

1000
01:27:52,050 --> 01:27:59,310
city limit filter so all of the calls that came in for all county and that was

1001
01:27:59,310 --> 01:28:14,950
3,000 I'm sorry 38,888 that was 2,000 yeah and that was 38,888 for which you 225.

1002
01:28:24,500 --> 01:28:30,240
Okay Brittany if you could get it over to that PDF spreadsheet we're not going to do the

1003
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:32,300
graph, and I know that's really hard to read.

1004
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:35,000
Ozzie, are you available? Can you hear me?

1005
01:28:43,060 --> 01:28:45,660
Yeah, Ozzie, if you would interview yourself and then briefly

1006
01:28:45,660 --> 01:28:48,860
describe what this spreadsheet speaks to.

1007
01:28:49,900 --> 01:28:50,680
So, what do you

1008
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:18,920
see are the revenues on top? Those are all of this

1009
01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:21,240
empty space in the big building. It's the economy.

1010
01:29:21,980 --> 01:29:25,180
You'll spend in there some refunds of reimbursements.

1011
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:27,860
I don't want to talk

1012
01:29:30,480 --> 01:29:30,920
about it.

1013
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:32,320
This is a real property taxes.

1014
01:29:33,140 --> 01:29:33,880
That is the funding.

1015
01:32:29,030 --> 01:32:33,510
Okay, thank you, and I'll wrap it up, and I think this relevant, this phrase, she's relevant,

1016
01:32:33,510 --> 01:32:41,490
want to show you the picture, but the 2027 contract and the bill, so to speak, that we have

1017
01:32:41,490 --> 01:32:52,510
sent out to Sun Valley, is based on the 2025 Actuals plus 6%. So I also want to mention it was,

1018
01:32:52,510 --> 01:32:59,310
I can have, obviously, speak to that when I'm done. So it was asked of me last time that I was here

1019
01:32:59,310 --> 01:33:05,170
of Kathy was kind of changed between fiscal year 26 they were earning going into 27 and I

1020
01:33:05,170 --> 01:33:11,010
shared this in the letter that I sent. It's just that with the employee fluctuation. I said in the

1021
01:33:11,010 --> 01:33:17,470
letter we had four vacancies Kathy reminded and we have five. So we have two permanent full time

1022
01:33:17,470 --> 01:33:24,250
that can sit at the consoles without any supervision or guidance or fully trained. Those are vacant

1023
01:33:24,250 --> 01:33:27,310
and then we have three trainees that we've lost

1024
01:33:27,310 --> 01:33:29,350
unfortunately since the first of June.

1025
01:33:29,770 --> 01:33:32,330
It takes about eight months from when a trainee walks

1026
01:33:32,330 --> 01:33:35,850
in the door before he or she can be left alone,

1027
01:33:36,770 --> 01:33:38,850
answering the console, so to speak,

1028
01:33:38,930 --> 01:33:40,050
but the call is coming in.

1029
01:33:40,510 --> 01:33:42,970
So that's a real call that we're gonna see

1030
01:33:42,970 --> 01:33:46,690
when we try to fill those positions in 2027.

1031
01:33:47,330 --> 01:33:51,530
In addition to that, we do have a 3% market rating crease

1032
01:33:51,530 --> 01:33:54,650
at the board approved when they passed the budget.

1033
01:33:54,810 --> 01:33:57,010
So that is a real cost that we want to see

1034
01:33:57,010 --> 01:33:58,930
with the additional personnel cost.

1035
01:34:00,530 --> 01:34:02,470
Transitioning to the next topic,

1036
01:34:03,010 --> 01:34:05,990
we talked briefly the last time I was here about,

1037
01:34:06,070 --> 01:34:07,510
what's that funding model?

1038
01:34:07,510 --> 01:34:09,470
What makes up the percentages?

1039
01:34:09,790 --> 01:34:11,850
How is it determined back in 2012?

1040
01:34:12,650 --> 01:34:14,590
What each jurisdiction and fire district

1041
01:34:14,590 --> 01:34:15,450
can trip you?

1042
01:34:15,510 --> 01:34:18,870
So I did a lot of digging, working with Kathy

1043
01:34:18,870 --> 01:34:27,230
in the former director Robin and I pulled up what we believe is that funding matrix and it

1044
01:34:27,230 --> 01:34:36,550
is made of addresses that are within our parcel data system, hotel units, fire, EMS, and

1045
01:34:36,550 --> 01:34:41,750
law enforcement units and then it was determined that blank county on its own would fund the

1046
01:34:41,750 --> 01:34:47,750
first six dispatchers and then the other agencies and jurisdictions would fund the remaining

1047
01:34:47,750 --> 01:34:54,430
six dispatchers. And then lastly, we know this model is dated. We are committed.

1048
01:34:54,730 --> 01:34:59,990
We are meeting internally next Wednesday or Thursday to kick off how.

1049
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:13,100
We bring in some valley, the other cities, the fire districts, and reevaluate the model going forward so we can update this and do we turn it over to calls for service, do we keep it as it is.

1050
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:25,700
So I talked about that last time I was here and we are committed to do that so it would be on Jan. A. McLeary myself, Kathy and Aussie that will be on that committee and then we'll bring everybody else in.

1051
01:35:25,700 --> 01:35:30,100
So, that's what I have, and we are here for questions.

1052
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:31,540
What is your ask?

1053
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:40,560
The ask was what we submitted back on April 15th, and I have that number right here.

1054
01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:44,680
It is 146-934-83.

1055
01:35:47,660 --> 01:35:51,340
And you were going to explain why it was 6% or more?

1056
01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:55,420
Yes, so, as you can speak to this, I'll start it.

1057
01:35:55,420 --> 01:36:00,360
So if you look at, it's in your fiscal year 26 contract, it's already executed and signed.

1058
01:36:00,480 --> 01:36:04,340
It is in the document that I sent over on April 15.

1059
01:36:05,900 --> 01:36:14,400
So we use the actuals from 2 years prior plus 6% when we send out the billing contract.

1060
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:18,860
So as you can you speak to this, think you can do it much clearer than I can.

1061
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:24,640
The actuals of what we were billed plus 6% you're basically taking the 3% that a county

1062
01:36:24,640 --> 01:36:26,420
could take to increase taxes.

1063
01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:28,640
How is you going to speak to it?

1064
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:39,200
I'm sorry, I'm

1065
01:38:50,750 --> 01:38:50,750
sorry.

1066
01:38:50,750 --> 01:38:51,330
Thank you, I see.

1067
01:38:57,940 --> 01:38:58,200
How is it?

1068
01:38:58,260 --> 01:39:00,220
Can you speak to that off the top of your head?

1069
01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:02,140
What?

1070
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:03,760
How is it?

1071
01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:06,980
Your organizational reserves at the moment are how much?

1072
01:39:08,970 --> 01:39:10,890
25% but I don't know what.

1073
01:39:10,970 --> 01:39:12,130
Will a city or a bungalow?

1074
01:39:12,950 --> 01:39:13,310
Yeah.

1075
01:39:13,850 --> 01:39:14,370
Yes, please.

1076
01:39:15,530 --> 01:39:15,770
Yeah.

1077
01:39:17,670 --> 01:39:19,030
I'll tell you where I'm going with this.

1078
01:39:19,030 --> 01:39:31,630
I'm trying to get to whether or not you have enough money to pay for next year without the

1079
01:39:31,630 --> 01:39:38,350
increase and giving everyone time to do what Kurt suggested will happen, which is everybody

1080
01:39:38,350 --> 01:39:45,070
sits down and agrees a reasonable way forward with respect to the allocation of costs.

1081
01:39:45,950 --> 01:39:59,830
I'll let Aussie speak to that, but I remind Council on the Mayor we firmly believe when this was agreed to and granted it was years ago, there were percentages that were agreed to in some dollars.

1082
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:10,000
9.93%, that number has stayed static. I believe since 2013. So we're trying to get closer to that number.

1083
01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:20,820
We were going slowly. We were going to reach that number in 2030. We're stepping back. And we're going to reevaluate, like I just said, starting next week internally. So do we want to share that?

1084
01:40:20,820 --> 01:40:26,900
I get it, but if you have enough money to get through a year, I would rather keep things

1085
01:40:26,900 --> 01:40:33,060
as they are, not pay for an increase and come up with a more reasonable allocation, because

1086
01:40:33,060 --> 01:40:39,880
right now, based on the numbers that you've presented, it looks as though the calls, you

1087
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:48,180
know, this is this page that you gave us here, are 7% of total calls, we're paying 8% of total

1088
01:40:48,180 --> 01:40:58,340
costs, and when you base things on property value, rather than population, it particularly negatively

1089
01:40:58,340 --> 01:41:06,660
impacts the high property value jurisdictions, which actually also have lower individuals

1090
01:41:06,660 --> 01:41:16,840
so quite possibly fewer calls and then there was something else and then also remember

1091
01:41:16,840 --> 01:41:25,820
that property valuations and property valuations also lag. So if you're going on property

1092
01:41:25,820 --> 01:41:33,040
valuations the reason that you're having that gap quite possibly be that while your costs are

1093
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:40,180
going up for your employees, right, those costs increase quicker than the property valuations

1094
01:41:40,180 --> 01:41:40,840
go up.

1095
01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:45,080
I will say I understand that.

1096
01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:50,000
Blank County is already carrying almost 62 percent of this already.

1097
01:41:51,660 --> 01:41:54,020
Our agreed to rate was 56.93.

1098
01:41:55,380 --> 01:42:00,320
How we calculate these formulas is, again, parcels in the data system.

1099
01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:02,600
I don't know if they're looking at the ASS value.

1100
01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:10,440
associated with that. So, and I've been told so many times, a call with someone tripping and

1101
01:42:10,440 --> 01:42:14,840
falling over the toilet is one thing, a call going to the fourth floor of the line like

1102
01:42:14,840 --> 01:42:20,680
hotel is a totally different thing. So, it's not just apples to apples. Last week when we had

1103
01:42:20,680 --> 01:42:26,720
the fire down in Carrey, one call for service was almost eight hours. So, it's not apples for apples.

1104
01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:28,980
And we assisted with that.

1105
01:42:29,300 --> 01:42:30,840
And we so much appreciate it.

1106
01:42:31,160 --> 01:42:32,740
Not like you were all on your own.

1107
01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:35,000
No, I just found out this batch as far as circle.

1108
01:42:36,120 --> 01:42:43,000
And I would also point out that Blaine County's revenue is derived by property taxes.

1109
01:42:43,120 --> 01:42:48,440
So we're already paying the Blaine County percentage or fair share if you will.

1110
01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:51,640
Already includes taxes from this jurisdiction.

1111
01:42:54,660 --> 01:42:55,420
What

1112
01:43:00,190 --> 01:43:03,850
we have put in our budget on a 30-something.

1113
01:43:05,010 --> 01:43:12,870
Until we get a better feeling as to how this allocation looks now, whether it be property taxes,

1114
01:43:14,030 --> 01:43:22,910
or new things bringing it up to date from 2013 to 2016, with those figures in line

1115
01:43:22,910 --> 01:43:30,150
and using your reserves to fund the difference between 26 and 27.

1116
01:43:31,350 --> 01:43:36,010
And then justifying, if in fact, it is all justified

1117
01:43:36,750 --> 01:43:41,290
that we do pay more, or other people pay more, or whatever

1118
01:43:41,290 --> 01:43:43,090
did, it's more up to date.

1119
01:43:45,050 --> 01:43:47,610
I think we should consider that.

1120
01:43:47,610 --> 01:43:54,890
and wait for further information as to how the allocation of cost should be.

1121
01:43:54,990 --> 01:43:57,390
That's the new school, right?

1122
01:43:57,870 --> 01:44:03,590
Can you scroll down on this post, we bet, did we get, I'm sorry, I wanted the other one

1123
01:44:03,590 --> 01:44:07,730
where it showed whatever jurisdiction was paying, maybe it's wait the top, right?

1124
01:44:07,870 --> 01:44:08,490
Point 20 chart?

1125
01:44:09,030 --> 01:44:13,550
Yeah, so you're saying go, no, right there, you're saying going from 1, 23, 3,

1126
01:44:13,550 --> 01:44:14,690
I want to 1, 30.

1127
01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:20,860
What did we pay last year?

1128
01:44:20,860 --> 01:44:22,620
1,2,3, 0,1.

1129
01:44:22,780 --> 01:44:24,900
Hold up, I have a contract with Stan Ly.

1130
01:44:26,360 --> 01:44:29,960
This year, Jim Keating, sitting in those chair,

1131
01:44:30,700 --> 01:44:35,600
the actual number in our existing contract is 133,811.

1132
01:44:36,920 --> 01:44:38,700
And do you want to be here with one of that correct?

1133
01:44:38,980 --> 01:44:39,280
Yes, yes.

1134
01:44:39,460 --> 01:44:41,020
Will be here before, is that right there?

1135
01:44:41,220 --> 01:44:42,220
It should be that right there.

1136
01:44:42,280 --> 01:44:43,760
1,2,3,3,0,1.

1137
01:44:43,900 --> 01:44:45,100
Yes, that is correct.

1138
01:44:48,660 --> 01:44:58,060
And tell me again who's going to be in the working group to determine a more current approach to financing this?

1139
01:44:58,420 --> 01:44:59,980
Yeah, and my understanding was of working.

1140
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:07,040
Groups, so to speak, back in 2013, 2012, took about two years in mediation. So, how quickly we can get through

1141
01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:13,760
this and come back as questionable. My advice to Commissioner McLeary would be to start it. This is right

1142
01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:17,960
shared with her early this week. Like we did the aim of the District of Levy. We bring in the

1143
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:23,180
elected, the mayors, and then we bring in the fire commissioners. And we have this conversation

1144
01:45:23,180 --> 01:45:29,740
about how we want to move forward. And then we bring in staff and start this working group, so that would

1145
01:45:29,740 --> 01:45:34,840
city of catch-em, Sun Valley, Hayley Bellevue Carey, and the Fire Districts.

1146
01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:37,800
So it would be an inclusive. You envision an inclusive.

1147
01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:39,940
It has to be because they're going to be build.

1148
01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:41,380
Or yeah.

1149
01:45:41,800 --> 01:45:54,260
I would encourage, instead of staying flat, going up to 3% because we do have that real market rate increase for all of our employees.

1150
01:45:54,260 --> 01:46:15,060
I would encourage the full amount, but to meet in the middle, going up that 3%, and how do you how do we justify having been good stewards of our citizens money when we're already paying 1% more than the calls?

1151
01:46:15,060 --> 01:46:18,400
Again, it's not based our allocation model, it's not based on calls from the other.

1152
01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:20,420
I'm sure the allocation model is wrong.

1153
01:46:20,540 --> 01:46:22,300
I think you should start from that, right?

1154
01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:24,780
I get it, you have a model, but it's clearly broken.

1155
01:46:25,420 --> 01:46:28,440
And you, by the fact that you're willing to look at it again,

1156
01:46:29,120 --> 01:46:30,280
are probably accept that.

1157
01:46:30,620 --> 01:46:36,480
So, irrespective of the allocation model, we're already paying 1% more than...

1158
01:46:36,480 --> 01:46:36,760
We're...

1159
01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:37,580
You want to speak to it.

1160
01:46:37,620 --> 01:46:38,500
Drawing on the system.

1161
01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:42,500
And we also pay in, again, it's based on property taxes.

1162
01:46:42,500 --> 01:46:49,660
We also pay in a substantial proportional amount to the county through our valuation of our properties.

1163
01:46:51,240 --> 01:47:11,020
I can't speak to the property tax value piece of it, but you should be careful in making a direct correlation in number of calls for service to impact and needs from the dispatch center.

1164
01:47:12,160 --> 01:47:17,060
Because a call for service is a very, very, very, very,

1165
01:47:17,060 --> 01:47:21,240
a bold thing, a structure fire versus a traffic stop.

1166
01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:26,580
You know, a paper service versus a multi-vehicle traffic accident.

1167
01:47:27,140 --> 01:47:34,120
It is one measure, but I wouldn't say it should be a primary measure.

1168
01:47:34,120 --> 01:47:42,400
So, just because Sun Valley is has 7% of the calls for service doesn't mean.

1169
01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:44,580
What will you say the right measure is?

1170
01:47:44,980 --> 01:47:47,260
I don't know that it's a very good question.

1171
01:47:48,260 --> 01:47:50,440
Do you have time?

1172
01:47:51,420 --> 01:47:52,020
Do you have time?

1173
01:47:52,020 --> 01:47:52,280
Do you have time?

1174
01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:54,100
Do you have time associated with those calls?

1175
01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:55,460
So, could you do...

1176
01:47:55,460 --> 01:47:57,220
I don't expect it right this in a second.

1177
01:47:57,860 --> 01:48:03,480
But, could you do an analysis that showed how much time was associated

1178
01:48:03,480 --> 01:48:06,080
with the numbers of calls that you've already done?

1179
01:48:08,180 --> 01:48:10,760
You mean how much time from when the call

1180
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:12,040
open to when it closed?

1181
01:48:13,540 --> 01:48:15,680
If that's the right measure.

1182
01:48:15,940 --> 01:48:17,640
Like if you're saying that there's a difference

1183
01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:21,360
between a call, I'm not going to use the line like

1184
01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:22,740
because that's not our problem.

1185
01:48:23,200 --> 01:48:24,780
Yeah, I'm going to say the large.

1186
01:48:25,480 --> 01:48:27,400
There's a difference between the top floor

1187
01:48:27,400 --> 01:48:33,200
of the lodge behind a locked door versus somebody just saying,

1188
01:48:33,200 --> 01:48:35,860
I saw a guy speeding behind me, you know,

1189
01:48:36,020 --> 01:48:38,820
there's a different amount of time associated with that.

1190
01:48:39,120 --> 01:48:44,460
Are you able to associate the amount of time spent

1191
01:48:44,460 --> 01:48:51,040
on the calls on these 25 calls of 2,766?

1192
01:48:52,140 --> 01:48:55,800
Can you tell us how much time it was versus the time

1193
01:48:55,800 --> 01:49:00,280
for the total number of calls, which was 41,654?

1194
01:49:02,480 --> 01:49:05,840
I could try, and that would take a little bit of time.

1195
01:49:06,180 --> 01:49:12,040
I don't know that even that would be completely reflective of the impact on dispatch.

1196
01:49:12,680 --> 01:49:19,640
Because some calls take a lot of traffic, a lot of radio traffic, a lot of phone traffic,

1197
01:49:20,020 --> 01:49:27,300
a lot of coordination, and some calls might take a long time, but don't necessarily take

1198
01:49:27,300 --> 01:49:30,640
as much of a dispatcher's focus.

1199
01:49:32,280 --> 01:49:33,460
One thing that you should know,

1200
01:49:33,580 --> 01:49:34,780
I know this is a little off topic,

1201
01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:38,260
but our dispatchers are certified

1202
01:49:38,260 --> 01:49:43,100
and do apply emergency medical dispatch protocol

1203
01:49:43,100 --> 01:49:45,940
and emergency fire dispatch protocol.

1204
01:49:46,460 --> 01:49:50,880
And so that is a series of internationally approved questions

1205
01:49:50,880 --> 01:49:54,140
that they ask the caller in an effort

1206
01:49:54,140 --> 01:49:56,940
to gather information for the first responders

1207
01:49:56,940 --> 01:49:59,380
also to code the call properly.

1208
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:07,920
And to occasionally offer CPR, um, second party CPR, or just tell me where there's it on the line.

1209
01:50:08,460 --> 01:50:16,340
Yeah, yeah. So, um, certain calls take a dispatch, a hundred percent of a dispatch.

1210
01:50:16,340 --> 01:50:18,900
They're right there with the, yeah, I've been talking to them about that.

1211
01:50:18,920 --> 01:50:26,760
Yeah, and they can't really be pulled off of that to take this next call and take this other, and I'm on call and deal with the radio traffic.

1212
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:33,780
So it's very complex about what the impact is on dispatch per call.

1213
01:50:34,060 --> 01:50:41,040
But I certainly, I believe there is already coding in place that tells me

1214
01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:47,000
length of time spent from when a call opened to when it closed.

1215
01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:48,260
And I could pull that.

1216
01:50:48,680 --> 01:50:52,800
I think our ask is, we are more than happy to pay our fair share.

1217
01:50:52,940 --> 01:50:55,260
We're just looking for the best way to figure out.

1218
01:50:55,260 --> 01:50:59,280
Yeah, and that is a really, really good question.

1219
01:50:59,560 --> 01:51:06,260
I was part of, I've been in somewhat in this role for quite a while, and this ever since

1220
01:51:06,260 --> 01:51:07,100
we consolidated.

1221
01:51:07,540 --> 01:51:12,100
It's been a question, and it's very, it's difficult.

1222
01:51:12,280 --> 01:51:18,560
Because partially, I think, it's very difficult for cities, because ambulance districts

1223
01:51:18,560 --> 01:51:25,920
are don't coincide with city boundaries and even fire districts often don't.

1224
01:51:26,520 --> 01:51:32,620
There's also a lot of auto aid agreements that go outside of your city limits, but your

1225
01:51:32,620 --> 01:51:35,940
first responders are participating in those.

1226
01:51:37,260 --> 01:51:38,140
So it's hard.

1227
01:51:38,140 --> 01:51:38,360
It was hard.

1228
01:51:38,360 --> 01:51:38,420
It was hard.

1229
01:51:38,420 --> 01:51:41,700
How fast to make it easy for us to see.

1230
01:51:41,900 --> 01:51:42,220
Yeah.

1231
01:51:43,180 --> 01:51:43,440
Yeah.

1232
01:51:43,860 --> 01:51:49,900
How, you know, if you're trying, I think that you have to look at it a little bit from

1233
01:51:49,900 --> 01:51:55,580
beyond your city borders and go, how do we, how do we as a consolidated, where this

1234
01:51:55,580 --> 01:52:04,780
is my perspective? It's a consolidated dispatch center. Our first responders go between

1235
01:52:04,780 --> 01:52:11,500
boundaries. Your citizens move between boundaries. You know, your citizens may go to the hospital,

1236
01:52:11,500 --> 01:52:17,620
They make over Goline a pass, drive to Boise, and they have an emergency outside of you.

1237
01:52:17,880 --> 01:52:24,180
Yeah, and Hayley, and vice versa, and your workers who don't live here, but commute here every day to work,

1238
01:52:24,480 --> 01:52:27,440
may have an incident while they're in some valley.

1239
01:52:27,720 --> 01:52:38,000
So it's, you can try to quantify what some valley citizens should pay for, but it'll never really be perfect.

1240
01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:47,840
But I do think you have to do it. You have to, I mean, one, I think that I don't, I really don't know how you divide it. I almost think.

1241
01:52:47,980 --> 01:52:53,660
I think that's probably what we're looking for from Curtin the future to say, how do you do this?

1242
01:52:54,180 --> 01:53:06,860
We understand it's not going to be perfect, but we need to have a better confidence level that is fair and it's reason and it's defensible.

1243
01:53:06,860 --> 01:53:07,440
Well, yeah.

1244
01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:11,300
Right now, I don't think our council has that feeling.

1245
01:53:12,300 --> 01:53:22,300
So in light of the fact that we have allocated $133,000 towards the Dispatch Center, perhaps

1246
01:53:22,300 --> 01:53:32,060
the question is, do we consider Kerch's informal request of a plus 3% on that or do we

1247
01:53:32,060 --> 01:53:43,440
hold at this level and look over to what really sounds like a robust advisory committee which is

1248
01:53:43,440 --> 01:53:51,660
a relatively new concept in the county. To look at how everybody would be cooperative

1249
01:53:51,660 --> 01:53:59,540
into coming up with some sort of funding for a consolidated dispatch center.

1250
01:53:59,540 --> 01:54:08,760
My way of looking at is the key is to come up with a formula that can be applied to determine

1251
01:54:08,760 --> 01:54:15,820
what the share of each municipality will be. Once you have that formula, which certainly

1252
01:54:16,500 --> 01:54:24,640
I couldn't construct that, but I hope to count again. Then we just apply that across the

1253
01:54:24,640 --> 01:54:29,660
Can you answer the question about the flunged balance?

1254
01:54:29,840 --> 01:54:31,920
I don't, basically, the reserves.

1255
01:54:32,120 --> 01:54:34,840
What do you have available as a reserve at the moment?

1256
01:54:35,320 --> 01:54:37,220
Aussie, can you speak to that amount?

1257
01:54:39,660 --> 01:54:40,880
Well, remember the systems.

1258
01:55:38,040 --> 01:55:39,400
How much

1259
01:55:48,810 --> 01:55:51,750
cash do you have in the bank?

1260
01:55:51,750 --> 01:55:52,050
Can

1261
01:56:05,880 --> 01:56:09,900
I talk about the staffing expenses, so it looks like you guys are paying now a lot

1262
01:56:09,900 --> 01:56:16,500
and over time in 2025, and it sounds like you're missing a few people in the current year,

1263
01:56:16,840 --> 01:56:19,300
so I'm guessing that there will be a lot of other times as well.

1264
01:56:19,700 --> 01:56:22,480
It's what steps are you all taking to make sure that you have a high effect,

1265
01:56:22,800 --> 01:56:24,560
that's what we're doing, so that we're going to reduce that over time.

1266
01:56:25,160 --> 01:56:31,120
Sure, I'll start with that. Kathy can fix what I mess up, but what we're doing right now,

1267
01:56:32,540 --> 01:56:35,560
what we're doing right now is we're doing exit interviews with the three training

1268
01:56:36,640 --> 01:56:42,100
And determine why they left because we've heard health reasons from, I think, a couple of them.

1269
01:56:42,260 --> 01:56:44,620
So we want to know what's going on.

1270
01:56:44,780 --> 01:56:48,740
Is there something within the center that is causing folks to leave?

1271
01:56:49,180 --> 01:57:02,260
And then just last week, this week, we got approval from the board to hire a firm to help us on board applicants and help us get them through the training and the background checks.

1272
01:57:02,260 --> 01:57:08,920
So, that will help add capacity for you, Kathy, and the Deputy Director Melissa, that.

1273
01:57:09,520 --> 01:57:09,840
Yeah.

1274
01:57:10,720 --> 01:57:25,000
And we did just sign an agreement with a hiring skills testing network that is specifically designed for first responders and emergency communications officers.

1275
01:57:25,700 --> 01:57:32,860
and so that will help us get a better quality applicant through and also help.

1276
01:57:33,080 --> 01:57:35,300
Actually, do you have them currently?

1277
01:57:36,020 --> 01:57:39,980
We have nine dispatchers and the deputy director.

1278
01:57:41,160 --> 01:57:44,960
She is a qualified dispatcher and so she has been covering.

1279
01:57:45,680 --> 01:57:46,280
So we have ten.

1280
01:57:46,580 --> 01:57:50,100
Do you have shifts like our fire department has?

1281
01:57:50,220 --> 01:57:51,760
Do you always have somebody on duty?

1282
01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:53,100
We always have two.

1283
01:57:53,440 --> 01:57:54,980
We always have two.

1284
01:57:54,980 --> 01:58:03,260
and they were at 36 hour a week, 12 hours today shifts. So...

1285
01:58:03,260 --> 01:58:04,740
And what's optimal?

1286
01:58:05,320 --> 01:58:05,620
12.

1287
01:58:07,060 --> 01:58:09,740
Would be good to come or pay time off at a certain time.

1288
01:58:10,280 --> 01:58:12,460
And so you are doing the optimal with 12.

1289
01:58:12,840 --> 01:58:14,140
Where do you...

1290
01:58:14,140 --> 01:58:19,920
Where is the likely place that you would be able to hire people from?

1291
01:58:19,920 --> 01:58:22,500
Are you trying to recruit people to the county?

1292
01:58:22,500 --> 01:58:27,180
or are you trying to find people who are already here and can be trained or?

1293
01:58:27,860 --> 01:58:36,520
We are doing both this new hiring skills agreement that we have part of their service

1294
01:58:36,520 --> 01:58:44,420
is recruiting so they post on college boards and you know like digital college boards and

1295
01:58:44,420 --> 01:58:48,880
LinkedIn and Hamshake, I think.

1296
01:58:49,580 --> 01:58:58,540
And so we are hoping that we, that will reach, say, CSI, the one that's over in Idaho

1297
01:58:58,540 --> 01:59:03,120
Falls or Pocatello, Boise, even up north and Moscow.

1298
01:59:05,300 --> 01:59:11,920
So we are increasing our recruiting on really, I'm really anticipating that that will help

1299
01:59:11,920 --> 01:59:12,220
us.

1300
01:59:12,220 --> 01:59:19,260
also we do word of mouth, which is actually surprisingly we've gotten quite a few candidates

1301
01:59:19,260 --> 01:59:26,240
that way. What's the starting salary? It's about. It's about, it's about, it's about,

1302
01:59:26,640 --> 01:59:36,420
so 3% above $28 an hour. So it's good and then they do have an opportunity they increase

1303
01:59:36,420 --> 01:59:41,840
fairly quickly when they go to being a fully trained dispatcher. I don't

1304
01:59:41,840 --> 01:59:45,920
think it's a take to get turned. Almost nine months. There's a lot of

1305
01:59:45,920 --> 01:59:50,200
certifications. They have to achieve. Let's see if we can wrap this up. I'm

1306
01:59:50,200 --> 01:59:54,980
certainly willing to consider the 3% increase. It's a $4,000 increase. That's

1307
01:59:54,980 --> 01:59:58,940
reasonable. This is not going to solve the gap that's going on.

1308
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:14,140
I agree on time. If there is, in fact, it's 440,000 in savings or in the 444,000, 444 in the piggy bank, that's not

1309
02:00:14,140 --> 02:00:24,660
helpful. And so I would also be in favor of looking at that number that we said, 133 percent. And

1310
02:00:25,960 --> 02:00:33,540
actively, actively, encourage us and other entities to get involved in this thing.

1311
02:00:33,680 --> 02:00:40,440
This is obviously, Kathy, as you said, with down three, we have three trainees, and

1312
02:00:40,440 --> 02:00:46,160
they only have something wrong, and we need to address that, and we need to do that.

1313
02:00:46,540 --> 02:00:52,860
So let's take a little bit off then we're going to take one, say 133 plus 3%, and we want

1314
02:00:52,860 --> 02:00:56,600
get involved and we'll love to hear back from you.

1315
02:00:56,660 --> 02:00:58,180
We go with that, can we need?

1316
02:00:58,640 --> 02:00:58,780
OK.

1317
02:00:59,200 --> 02:01:01,660
I just have a more question about your applicants.

1318
02:01:02,480 --> 02:01:08,120
Do you have more applicants that you could actually hire?

1319
02:01:09,260 --> 02:01:12,140
Yes, we have several applicants that

1320
02:01:12,140 --> 02:01:15,400
are awaiting taking the hiring skills test.

1321
02:01:15,580 --> 02:01:16,660
OK, thank you.

1322
02:01:17,500 --> 02:01:18,980
We need a lot to do that.

1323
02:01:19,260 --> 02:01:21,920
You do not formally need a motion if there's

1324
02:01:21,920 --> 02:01:30,020
consensus, at least from 3 of you, that the 3% increase on top of the 133 at 11 makes sense.

1325
02:01:30,080 --> 02:01:35,200
I will take that guidance, work with our friends at the county, and bring back a contract

1326
02:01:35,200 --> 02:01:40,520
that is prepared also for consideration by the commissioners, and that will come at the

1327
02:01:40,520 --> 02:01:40,980
next meeting.

1328
02:01:42,920 --> 02:01:43,040
Good.

1329
02:01:43,780 --> 02:01:43,800
Good.

1330
02:01:43,800 --> 02:01:43,980
Good.

1331
02:01:44,200 --> 02:01:44,760
Thank you.

1332
02:01:45,100 --> 02:01:45,380
Thanks.

1333
02:01:45,720 --> 02:01:46,120
Thank you.

1334
02:01:46,640 --> 02:01:49,400
Thank you.

1335
02:01:53,520 --> 02:01:54,340
We

1336
02:02:03,200 --> 02:02:13,650
are back in session. We are looking at now again item number 6 update and recommendation to approve one of the option presented by

1337
02:02:13,650 --> 02:02:15,630
and see associated with Saddles,

1338
02:02:15,730 --> 02:02:18,490
for our sunbellies, and we did intersection.

1339
02:02:19,330 --> 02:02:21,190
Just to keep you on our start off.

1340
02:02:21,450 --> 02:02:24,490
Absolutely, thank you for the opportunity, Mr. Merrick,

1341
02:02:24,710 --> 02:02:28,050
to introduce, show no one from S&C Associates,

1342
02:02:28,050 --> 02:02:31,290
but I just want to do a quick recap for Council.

1343
02:02:31,670 --> 02:02:35,530
You'll recall Council will approve a contract with S&C Associates

1344
02:02:35,530 --> 02:02:38,430
earlier in the year to develop the engineering plans

1345
02:02:39,010 --> 02:02:41,410
for a four-way intersection.

1346
02:02:43,290 --> 02:02:48,670
with significant improvements in throughput and bike-ped infrastructure being primary targets.

1347
02:02:49,310 --> 02:02:55,210
Happy to report, sharing, and our team been hard at work since that time, and they're

1348
02:02:55,210 --> 02:03:00,610
here today to largely present the first milestone in that process, which is concept designs

1349
02:03:00,610 --> 02:03:02,610
for your guidance and input.

1350
02:03:03,850 --> 02:03:10,530
Share is here, but next steps, pending kind of your input today, would be to continue to develop

1351
02:03:10,530 --> 02:03:14,570
one of those concepts for final design over the next six months.

1352
02:03:14,810 --> 02:03:16,890
And where does this all go as the final question?

1353
02:03:17,590 --> 02:03:23,250
And that is still our overall schedule for 20, 28 construction going forward.

1354
02:03:23,590 --> 02:03:25,670
Utilizing these grant dollars.

1355
02:03:25,910 --> 02:03:30,630
So with your approval, Mr. Mayor, I will bring up Sherry from Essency.

1356
02:03:31,150 --> 02:03:31,950
Thank you.

1357
02:03:38,820 --> 02:03:40,160
Mayor, council members.

1358
02:03:40,740 --> 02:03:41,500
Nice to see you.

1359
02:03:41,560 --> 02:03:43,520
Thanks for having me.

1360
02:03:43,520 --> 02:03:46,220
I'm sorry, new ones, I'm here.

1361
02:03:47,540 --> 02:03:47,940
All right,

1362
02:03:51,350 --> 02:03:54,050
I know, this is the real exciting stuff.

1363
02:03:54,330 --> 02:03:55,050
As a picture.

1364
02:03:58,410 --> 02:04:02,930
They say a thousand words, so hopefully we can limit what I have to say.

1365
02:04:03,730 --> 02:04:06,190
All right, as we know, as you all have been part of this journey,

1366
02:04:06,370 --> 02:04:09,730
we're going on almost four years here with this project.

1367
02:04:09,730 --> 02:04:19,310
And as Jim mentioned, in January, the direction was to move forward with a four-way stop and

1368
02:04:19,310 --> 02:04:21,110
always stop improvements.

1369
02:04:23,510 --> 02:04:30,130
So we, what you have in front of you are four options, and they're concept design.

1370
02:04:30,170 --> 02:04:35,450
So concept design is like 10%, you know, it's just, it's really just getting some things

1371
02:04:35,450 --> 02:04:38,270
on paper looking at some grades, but no detail design.

1372
02:04:39,810 --> 02:04:46,210
And I figured I'll just walk, we'll talk about each one, and hopefully spend a minute or two.

1373
02:04:46,510 --> 02:04:49,830
And then there's feel free to interrupt and ask questions at any time.

1374
02:04:50,270 --> 02:04:51,730
I did have Nancy.

1375
02:04:52,070 --> 02:04:59,690
You'll see there's an updated one-pager-ish that Nancy put on in front of you before the meeting.

1376
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:21,040
And that just updated the cost. At the time when we submitted this, we didn't have, we took a guess at the pavement section, and in talking with the design engineer and team, we decided to increase the cost, which hence there's about a 30% increase in cost to compensate for a full pavement section, reconstruction.

1377
02:05:22,020 --> 02:05:28,860
And again, these are all just really preliminary, and it also comes in significant, not significantly,

1378
02:05:30,780 --> 02:05:34,160
but under what the grant had allotted.

1379
02:05:35,360 --> 02:05:38,000
All right, option A, if you want to move.

1380
02:05:38,520 --> 02:05:40,700
Yeah, just suggest that the options are very clear.

1381
02:05:40,940 --> 02:05:45,140
There are the options that we want to focus on to just get the ones that we like.

1382
02:05:45,140 --> 02:05:50,460
I'd like to focus on C and D.

1383
02:05:50,680 --> 02:05:51,340
What are you talking about?

1384
02:05:52,680 --> 02:05:53,980
If that's D.

1385
02:05:55,540 --> 02:05:55,600
D.

1386
02:05:55,600 --> 02:05:57,000
I'm the number sky high.

1387
02:05:57,740 --> 02:05:58,220
Interbus.

1388
02:05:58,300 --> 02:05:58,820
Interbus.

1389
02:05:59,140 --> 02:06:00,760
You took your whole body into numbers.

1390
02:06:01,760 --> 02:06:03,820
You put your body into code.

1391
02:06:05,920 --> 02:06:07,100
C and D.

1392
02:06:08,320 --> 02:06:08,820
C and D.

1393
02:06:08,900 --> 02:06:09,900
C and D.

1394
02:06:11,020 --> 02:06:11,740
Fantastic.

1395
02:06:11,740 --> 02:06:22,880
So let's move to options C, so it should be the third one in there, okay, this option is always

1396
02:06:22,880 --> 02:06:29,160
stopped and we've added right turns at all of the approaches. Northbound, southbound, eastbound, westbound.

1397
02:06:30,740 --> 02:06:37,600
And one of the things that I brought up in this was this maximum queue length. So what that means is

1398
02:06:37,600 --> 02:06:41,860
how deep are your car is going to, to wait.

1399
02:06:42,460 --> 02:06:48,420
And it's 135 feet, and it's on, the worst case is going to be on that West Bell

1400
02:06:48,420 --> 02:06:52,780
dark turning movement, so coming from community school, and trying to make the last

1401
02:06:52,780 --> 02:06:54,300
onto your seat, right?

1402
02:06:54,400 --> 02:06:55,060
Yep, that one.

1403
02:06:55,440 --> 02:06:55,720
Yep.

1404
02:06:56,240 --> 02:06:56,520
Just kidding.

1405
02:06:56,700 --> 02:06:57,440
I have the right one.

1406
02:06:57,640 --> 02:06:57,800
Okay.

1407
02:06:58,660 --> 02:06:59,560
And it should be.

1408
02:07:00,940 --> 02:07:02,680
So that's the queue length.

1409
02:07:03,000 --> 02:07:03,940
So still acceptable.

1410
02:07:03,940 --> 02:07:11,020
Well, this is a level of service C, so very acceptable in design standards.

1411
02:07:11,860 --> 02:07:12,640
How many feet again?

1412
02:07:12,880 --> 02:07:13,380
135.

1413
02:07:14,260 --> 02:07:16,300
So about 13 cars?

1414
02:07:16,460 --> 02:07:18,160
10 to 13 cars, is it?

1415
02:07:18,160 --> 02:07:18,700
I love it.

1416
02:07:18,700 --> 02:07:20,760
It's a trailer with a...

1417
02:07:20,760 --> 02:07:21,100
Yeah.

1418
02:07:22,160 --> 02:07:22,400
Yep.

1419
02:07:23,340 --> 02:07:23,380
Yep.

1420
02:07:23,380 --> 02:07:24,420
That's a fairer.

1421
02:07:25,820 --> 02:07:27,380
A couple of the...

1422
02:07:27,380 --> 02:07:30,460
There's definitely some pedestrian improvements we're showing here.

1423
02:07:30,460 --> 02:07:43,660
You'll notice that the crosswalks have been more aligned to be straight and pulled closer to the intersection as well as on the westbound side.

1424
02:07:44,200 --> 02:07:50,760
You can see we did provide a little bit of separation between the roadway and the path and made it directional.

1425
02:07:51,300 --> 02:07:51,820
Again,

1426
02:07:54,540 --> 02:08:00,200
this, this provides a little bit more of comfort for pedestrian, and the turning

1427
02:08:00,200 --> 02:08:02,980
radius also has been adjusted.

1428
02:08:03,500 --> 02:08:07,280
You're coming to a stop, but the turning radiuses are a little larger to slow down vehicles

1429
02:08:07,280 --> 02:08:08,380
as they go around.

1430
02:08:08,800 --> 02:08:08,820
Yes.

1431
02:08:09,000 --> 02:08:09,600
Thank you.

1432
02:08:10,220 --> 02:08:10,660
Thank you.

1433
02:08:10,920 --> 02:08:17,180
I went out and took a look at the intersection, so I can see it in real time, so I speak.

1434
02:08:17,180 --> 02:08:26,080
And it looked in me that currently we have right-turned-a-lings at all of the intersections

1435
02:08:26,080 --> 02:08:32,160
except the solid road intersection going, I guess it's a east.

1436
02:08:33,160 --> 02:08:39,960
Now, is there going to be any particular change in the existing turn-lings on the other intersections?

1437
02:08:40,380 --> 02:08:41,260
That will happen.

1438
02:08:44,500 --> 02:08:51,100
And I think it option D, and I'm just, and you were trying to A, B, and you're just

1439
02:08:51,100 --> 02:08:52,760
the partnerly C and D.

1440
02:08:52,960 --> 02:09:01,060
No option C, and option C, the way I look at it, the principle difference is putting it

1441
02:09:01,060 --> 02:09:07,180
or I can turn the lighting from sound row going, I guess, on sound.

1442
02:09:08,100 --> 02:09:08,240
Yeah.

1443
02:09:08,240 --> 02:09:09,400
Towards the protection.

1444
02:09:10,020 --> 02:09:12,140
Yeah, you're currently at the end.

1445
02:09:12,440 --> 02:09:12,800
Yes, yep.

1446
02:09:13,620 --> 02:09:19,420
If you look at sound row, soundly going east of sound.

1447
02:09:19,420 --> 02:09:22,500
I hear a snow turning light at the present time.

1448
02:09:23,580 --> 02:09:26,200
And it's just, it looks like it contemplates.

1449
02:09:26,200 --> 02:09:36,540
This is contemplating that a right-try lane heading toward, yes, there will be right-turn lanes on all four lanes.

1450
02:09:37,080 --> 02:09:47,000
Right, but the key point is the difference in this one is we're adding a right-turn lane on that east-bound movement from south or road.

1451
02:09:47,220 --> 02:09:48,380
Yes, absolutely.

1452
02:09:48,380 --> 02:09:51,440
Looks like it exists already in the way of turning lanes.

1453
02:09:51,920 --> 02:09:53,440
Exactly, exactly.

1454
02:09:53,440 --> 02:09:53,800
Okay,

1455
02:09:57,480 --> 02:09:59,980
is there anything that...

1456
02:10:01,000 --> 02:10:04,040
What's a luminary at transit stop?

1457
02:10:04,300 --> 02:10:10,940
Oh, just a light, a light, an actual street lamp, kind of thing.

1458
02:10:11,140 --> 02:10:11,340
Exactly.

1459
02:10:12,380 --> 02:10:16,060
Well, I think we might, we probably have some flexibility, what to choose,

1460
02:10:16,440 --> 02:10:20,440
a need me dark sky compliant, but definitely lighting that bus stop.

1461
02:10:21,060 --> 02:10:36,240
And then what possibilities exist to really move the pedestrians to the portions of the intersection

1462
02:10:36,240 --> 02:10:42,000
where they're safe crossing, as opposed to having someone stranded over here at the corner

1463
02:10:42,000 --> 02:10:48,040
of Sun Valley Road and Dollar Road, where we appears at, you know what I mean?

1464
02:10:48,040 --> 02:10:52,520
Well, I would say we definitely made these directional, right?

1465
02:10:52,560 --> 02:10:54,160
We only have the two crossings.

1466
02:10:54,540 --> 02:10:57,800
So on that Southeast corner, is that what you're talking about?

1467
02:10:59,620 --> 02:11:05,320
Because we have a nice new wide road, a pretty big space here.

1468
02:11:05,560 --> 02:11:09,940
You wind up with people stranded here, trying to go places.

1469
02:11:10,080 --> 02:11:11,040
There shouldn't be there.

1470
02:11:11,080 --> 02:11:13,920
I know that, but what can we do to discourage them out of that?

1471
02:11:19,160 --> 02:11:31,260
I mean, the only thing I think that's a good point, Michelle, I think the only thing we could do is there's going to be, we're showing curbing gutter there, so there are some improvement, there are improvements there.

1472
02:11:31,260 --> 02:11:39,640
We can take some obstructions.

1473
02:11:41,220 --> 02:11:45,020
We can take, we can look something minor.

1474
02:11:46,900 --> 02:11:49,760
We can take a crosswalk.

1475
02:11:50,020 --> 02:11:53,680
Those crosswalks to my recollection exist of the wreck.

1476
02:11:54,280 --> 02:11:55,620
We have people across now.

1477
02:11:56,560 --> 02:11:56,840
Correct.

1478
02:11:57,900 --> 02:12:00,660
What we took away is on the southeast corner.

1479
02:12:00,660 --> 02:12:07,560
There is no other that existing ADA ramp there to know where it just fits there.

1480
02:12:07,880 --> 02:12:13,980
So that's gone and it's designed for a WB67 truck to make that right-hand turn movement.

1481
02:12:14,440 --> 02:12:17,960
So that's kind of what that's why you see that round. It's a ruled curve.

1482
02:12:18,420 --> 02:12:23,040
So there's big trucks going for Allen and Company Air to Sun Valley Company.

1483
02:12:23,540 --> 02:12:27,120
Yep, exactly. The WB67's make that turn.

1484
02:12:27,120 --> 02:12:30,520
And that's where that ADA crossing is.

1485
02:12:30,700 --> 02:12:31,460
It's gone.

1486
02:12:31,580 --> 02:12:33,860
Yeah, but what are the reasons that people stay there?

1487
02:12:34,040 --> 02:12:35,260
Yes, yeah, it's a random.

1488
02:12:35,360 --> 02:12:36,860
So that is completely removed.

1489
02:12:37,720 --> 02:12:42,620
One of the things I would caution about C.

1490
02:12:43,020 --> 02:12:48,460
If you'll notice, because of the right turn lane on the west found,

1491
02:12:51,410 --> 02:12:54,750
right turn lane on the westbound movement, yep, that right turn lane.

1492
02:12:55,130 --> 02:12:59,170
It pushes the bike the bike path into some valley property.

1493
02:13:00,510 --> 02:13:15,310
It impacts an irrigation, a historic irrigation feature, and that will greatly impact the project.

1494
02:13:16,010 --> 02:13:16,090
Scheduled.

1495
02:13:16,230 --> 02:13:18,910
Is that also the case on D?

1496
02:13:19,110 --> 02:13:20,990
No, that is not the case on D.

1497
02:13:21,830 --> 02:13:28,550
So, that is one of schedule schedule-wise because of the environmental impact,

1498
02:13:28,550 --> 02:13:31,130
which we understood, I know it seems very minimal,

1499
02:13:31,470 --> 02:13:34,390
but when we get into federal funding,

1500
02:13:35,550 --> 02:13:37,250
it can be very lengthy.

1501
02:13:37,590 --> 02:13:39,350
So between C and D,

1502
02:13:40,030 --> 02:13:43,290
the big difference is that I know that instead of having

1503
02:13:43,290 --> 02:13:46,730
a more core than having a right-turn lane,

1504
02:13:47,590 --> 02:13:48,910
sorry, two of those would be eliminated,

1505
02:13:49,650 --> 02:13:52,590
and we would have a left-turn lane

1506
02:13:52,590 --> 02:13:54,230
from south of the world going,

1507
02:13:54,330 --> 02:13:55,630
because it's no way,

1508
02:13:55,630 --> 02:14:15,870
So we would also put in a left turn lane, so we would lose, I think, two right turn lanes and gain two left turn lanes.

1509
02:14:16,430 --> 02:14:25,270
Yes, yes, and one of the things too, and with that change, the maximum QV call.

1510
02:14:25,270 --> 02:14:29,890
So it's just traffic-wise, it drops down to 85 feet, so it's a couple.

1511
02:14:30,310 --> 02:14:34,950
Now we're down to, you know, eight copies of these, that's it, exactly.

1512
02:14:36,250 --> 02:14:41,450
So, and it becomes the northbound buff term movement.

1513
02:14:41,630 --> 02:14:42,810
Turning left that.

1514
02:14:42,990 --> 02:14:49,410
It's going to keep the CND, make substantial improvements to the pedestrian access and safety.

1515
02:14:49,750 --> 02:14:51,390
The bus stop has moved.

1516
02:14:51,390 --> 02:14:56,650
D is the more efficient for what traffic, and the biggest reduction in that maximum.

1517
02:14:57,590 --> 02:14:59,970
Exactly, and does not have.

1518
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:07,320
Environmental impacts. So does that have the environmental impacts and costs 80 grand more than C?

1519
02:15:08,440 --> 02:15:08,760
Yes.

1520
02:15:09,940 --> 02:15:24,320
So, is it best practice to have symmetry in terms of whether you have, is that why you did with the crossings to align those?

1521
02:15:24,320 --> 02:15:34,320
Yeah, no, to have either right turn lanes across from each other or left turn lanes across from each other because you don't get that.

1522
02:15:35,520 --> 02:15:41,660
It seems like you get more traffic going from saddle road toward catch them.

1523
02:15:42,900 --> 02:15:52,020
So let's look at the saddle road going to catch them and make that right in turn.

1524
02:15:52,020 --> 02:16:01,920
Okay, let's put a right hand turn lane in there. You don't put a left hand turn lane in and on the other side of the street on the

1525
02:16:01,920 --> 02:16:08,280
The resource side of the street you keep that left hand turn lane because everybody does that everybody goes to capture

1526
02:16:08,280 --> 02:16:12,240
Yeah, I don't tell people anywhere else where there's a backup

1527
02:16:12,240 --> 02:16:21,900
So let us be putting right hand turn lane in on that one and a luck. Yeah, that's why I was asking is it best practice to have them

1528
02:16:22,020 --> 02:16:23,460
That trickle or could you do it?

1529
02:16:23,660 --> 02:16:30,080
Because that's what I think what you want to do is to try and go then, is the sea?

1530
02:16:31,300 --> 02:16:31,580
Yes.

1531
02:16:31,580 --> 02:16:32,280
Can you go to the sea?

1532
02:16:32,680 --> 02:16:34,320
I think what you want is what?

1533
02:16:34,880 --> 02:16:35,100
Yes.

1534
02:16:36,200 --> 02:16:38,040
It is not this.

1535
02:16:38,120 --> 02:16:39,480
Leave this the same.

1536
02:16:39,780 --> 02:16:42,320
If that's like an allowable thing to do.

1537
02:16:42,660 --> 02:16:43,060
Why not?

1538
02:16:43,320 --> 02:16:44,580
I think that makes sense.

1539
02:16:45,040 --> 02:16:50,920
Well, being a simple man, being a traffic down the most.

1540
02:16:50,920 --> 02:16:53,860
But it will, I didn't have it down even more.

1541
02:16:54,200 --> 02:16:59,380
But I think what will happen again now is a hybrid between a C&D.

1542
02:17:00,760 --> 02:17:00,980
Okay.

1543
02:17:01,740 --> 02:17:01,960
Yes.

1544
02:17:02,220 --> 02:17:03,680
But I want to ask that.

1545
02:17:03,800 --> 02:17:05,240
As it relates to this.

1546
02:17:05,720 --> 02:17:07,400
To eliminate that.

1547
02:17:07,760 --> 02:17:08,560
Turn way in.

1548
02:17:08,560 --> 02:17:09,300
And make it a right.

1549
02:17:09,780 --> 02:17:13,140
To keep it as a right.

1550
02:17:13,960 --> 02:17:14,560
Turn way in.

1551
02:17:14,680 --> 02:17:15,260
To work.

1552
02:17:15,980 --> 02:17:18,060
I'm certainly immunable to the options.

1553
02:17:18,060 --> 02:17:25,090
But the question to share is, is D optimized to get the lower traffic, is that why the way out is, wouldn't it?

1554
02:17:25,860 --> 02:17:26,300
Exactly.

1555
02:17:27,520 --> 02:17:28,460
Even, exactly.

1556
02:17:28,880 --> 02:17:34,640
Even though most, so you still do things more efficiently by doing this.

1557
02:17:34,960 --> 02:17:39,600
I don't know hardly any cars that turn left from Saddle Road.

1558
02:17:39,780 --> 02:17:42,180
And they have their own links to everybody go straight and turn right.

1559
02:17:44,470 --> 02:17:45,470
What I'm saying is...

1560
02:17:46,250 --> 02:17:48,390
I think people would say this.

1561
02:17:48,390 --> 02:17:54,910
I think they're stopping so what they're going through or turning right, they're still stopping.

1562
02:17:55,530 --> 02:17:59,310
Right, they're still that movement of stopping and turning right.

1563
02:18:02,550 --> 02:18:11,630
I think that what you end up with because of the left-term line there is a whole lot of empty space where you could have cars.

1564
02:18:12,330 --> 02:18:13,410
Did you look at this option?

1565
02:18:13,410 --> 02:18:21,930
is you look at the option of keeping everything on option D exactly the same except for making

1566
02:18:21,930 --> 02:18:27,710
it a left turn from saddle road going forward catch them as opposed to a right turn line.

1567
02:18:28,850 --> 02:18:34,710
We did not, I would say we did not and we can look into that and report that but we can

1568
02:18:34,710 --> 02:18:44,170
So with the most optumized, yeah, my instinct is it is, but I don't know, so if that proves

1569
02:18:44,170 --> 02:18:51,430
to be more efficient than that would be my choice, otherwise D, as presented.

1570
02:18:52,210 --> 02:18:59,890
Okay, so just to summarize what I think I tried to express before on D, I'm suggesting

1571
02:18:59,890 --> 02:19:07,990
we eliminate the left or the left leg and the saddle going north, and the place it will

1572
02:19:07,990 --> 02:19:20,970
break, yeah, replace it with a life-term leg going against itself. I think that's a good suggestion.

1573
02:19:21,310 --> 02:19:27,050
And so as we look at it, it would be in a very, it would be in a, we'd have to look at that we might have to offset

1574
02:19:27,050 --> 02:19:32,470
some things because right now if we left it in the same configuration as we are, right, we're

1575
02:19:32,470 --> 02:19:39,730
going to have to go across. You're going to have a judge. Yes. So we just have to look at that way,

1576
02:19:40,250 --> 02:19:46,770
lay out so that it could just be striking. Yeah, I'm not looking at angles. I'm looking at number

1577
02:19:53,110 --> 02:19:59,930
I was going to suggest I'm just drafting it in my head but a motion to support option D to approve.

1578
02:20:00,240 --> 02:20:05,080
Looking at how to best optimize for overall traffic, as well.

1579
02:20:05,260 --> 02:20:07,300
Can you consider that?

1580
02:20:07,400 --> 02:20:08,780
I'm just excited.

1581
02:20:09,100 --> 02:20:16,400
It's kind of a way where we have it depicted clearly in front of us that if that right sort of

1582
02:20:16,400 --> 02:20:22,400
I mean, sadly, heading east could be subject to,

1583
02:20:23,200 --> 02:20:26,240
do I say right away, I mean, the left are like,

1584
02:20:26,500 --> 02:20:29,360
could be substituted with the right sort of way.

1585
02:20:30,040 --> 02:20:32,300
We hopefully approve that that way.

1586
02:20:32,900 --> 02:20:36,300
And if that doesn't work, that sure we can come back to us and say,

1587
02:20:36,500 --> 02:20:37,040
it doesn't work.

1588
02:20:37,800 --> 02:20:38,860
But this will work.

1589
02:20:39,540 --> 02:20:46,520
And I think that's totally worth the ball.

1590
02:20:46,520 --> 02:20:53,640
I think if your motion includes preference for option D, with a request of staff to work

1591
02:20:53,640 --> 02:20:59,900
with you to investigate that option, the very one you mentioned, Keith, we will take

1592
02:20:59,900 --> 02:21:02,120
that based on your motion and move forward.

1593
02:21:04,060 --> 02:21:05,540
Does it need to be even even motion?

1594
02:21:05,940 --> 02:21:07,500
You don't formally need a motion.

1595
02:21:09,060 --> 02:21:12,540
So if there was discord at this moment, I would say, give me a motion.

1596
02:21:12,540 --> 02:21:15,240
But I think I at least, and I believe you

1597
02:21:15,240 --> 02:21:17,900
think as well, have enough guidance and counsel that

1598
02:21:17,900 --> 02:21:20,400
we're anchored around option D, and that we are

1599
02:21:20,400 --> 02:21:23,720
going to take the action to go and test the very

1600
02:21:23,720 --> 02:21:25,960
scenario that you just posted.

1601
02:21:26,960 --> 02:21:27,180
Great.

1602
02:21:27,180 --> 02:21:27,880
Thank you.

1603
02:21:27,980 --> 02:21:31,920
Yeah, I'm sure you talk about safety for pedestrians.

1604
02:21:32,320 --> 02:21:36,800
If you have to, lanes going one direction at the same time.

1605
02:21:36,960 --> 02:21:40,260
You bet that if you're first making a left or going straight,

1606
02:21:40,260 --> 02:21:43,880
and two cars and how to sort of coordinate with the other

1607
02:21:43,880 --> 02:21:45,480
around the full way.

1608
02:21:47,160 --> 02:21:51,660
You, but one of that's a great question.

1609
02:21:52,540 --> 02:21:56,640
And one of the rules of the road or the rules of the right way

1610
02:21:56,640 --> 02:22:00,300
would apply right, whoever gets their first goes first.

1611
02:22:00,540 --> 02:22:03,660
If there's somebody who gets their, they get at the same time,

1612
02:22:03,660 --> 02:22:06,080
they arrive at the same time, then I had to look this up.

1613
02:22:06,700 --> 02:22:07,140
It's good.

1614
02:22:07,340 --> 02:22:09,300
The person to the right gets the right away.

1615
02:22:09,300 --> 02:22:14,740
with two people to the right, yeah, to the right gets the right away.

1616
02:22:15,240 --> 02:22:26,500
So, two people are there at the same time with the safety of the crosswalks being at the intersection.

1617
02:22:27,540 --> 02:22:30,720
People are visible now, and then it stopped the position.

1618
02:22:31,320 --> 02:22:38,300
So, we don't have flashing, it's just going to be, we looked at adding in a rectangular,

1619
02:22:38,300 --> 02:22:43,280
or we did evaluate adding a rectangular rapid flashing beacon, but per

1620
02:22:43,280 --> 02:22:49,660
muds it or a METCD, you cannot put those at a always stop intersection. We

1621
02:22:49,660 --> 02:22:54,460
also looked at pulling those away and maybe having them for their way from

1622
02:22:54,460 --> 02:23:01,820
the intersection, we have a hill on one side, and then environment where

1623
02:23:03,000 --> 02:23:13,000
Sun Valley is this did historically, so there's environmental things with fashion lights, which, again, would flow or skin tone.

1624
02:23:13,640 --> 02:23:14,280
It's kind of the mean.

1625
02:23:14,780 --> 02:23:16,080
Yeah, so yeah.

1626
02:23:16,660 --> 02:23:21,740
But, according to the engineering standards, it's safe and out.

1627
02:23:21,880 --> 02:23:26,160
Exactly, and one of the things too, we are going to look at as we proceed into the design.

1628
02:23:27,500 --> 02:23:32,280
We talked about lighting and looking at the cross we can look at the crosswalk lighting,

1629
02:23:32,280 --> 02:23:39,100
something in the crosswalk to provide better lighting for the pedestrians to call it front lighting.

1630
02:23:40,360 --> 02:23:46,860
There is lighting out there, there's lighting on the big, those big mass arms, but it'd be crosswalk lighting

1631
02:23:46,860 --> 02:23:50,000
too, it's something that an inviting you as we proceed to, it's just like that.

1632
02:23:50,660 --> 02:23:54,280
Okay. Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

1633
02:23:54,280 --> 02:23:55,480
Good job, Sherry.

1634
02:23:56,800 --> 02:23:59,420
I didn't have the same discussion for right now.

1635
02:23:59,640 --> 02:24:01,480
My organization has left me.

1636
02:24:02,120 --> 02:24:03,480
Is this all cool?

1637
02:24:03,800 --> 02:24:04,160
Is it me?

1638
02:24:08,440 --> 02:24:11,140
I will do this discussion from here.

1639
02:24:11,240 --> 02:24:12,580
That's okay with the council.

1640
02:24:12,960 --> 02:24:15,960
Let me open up the priority matrix.

1641
02:24:17,380 --> 02:24:18,660
I can't remember the old one.

1642
02:24:18,860 --> 02:24:19,320
It's been so long.

1643
02:24:21,520 --> 02:24:21,920
Let's see.

1644
02:24:23,820 --> 02:24:24,140
So,

1645
02:24:29,880 --> 02:24:35,880
Let's say three items of priority, and then we'll get through those in one of three

1646
02:24:35,880 --> 02:24:37,980
items that we get through them.

1647
02:24:38,720 --> 02:24:41,200
What would be the top three you go ahead for me?

1648
02:24:41,940 --> 02:24:46,380
So I didn't include the original one from 2025 through reference.

1649
02:24:46,680 --> 02:24:49,280
Visually it looks very similar in green and blue blocks.

1650
02:24:49,280 --> 02:24:55,920
And it's in your packet and on the screen and then the updated version was the second attachment to the staff report.

1651
02:24:56,300 --> 02:24:59,980
So I'll focus on that and as we can see we did complete.

1652
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:08,060
Eight items, one, two, and three from our last prioritization. So it's great for making progress. And then we did jump

1653
02:25:08,060 --> 02:25:16,960
down and do some partial updates to Title 7. So originally Title 7 had been our 7th priority.

1654
02:25:17,980 --> 02:25:21,900
Circumstances kicked that a little bit up the chain. So that has been completed.

1655
02:25:23,420 --> 02:25:31,740
The main things I want to express are that previously, we had code penalties and nucences

1656
02:25:31,740 --> 02:25:38,260
as numbers four and five together, and I do recommend we tackle that topic next.

1657
02:25:39,580 --> 02:25:45,300
J2V, just because occurrence in the amount of time it currently takes for staff to work

1658
02:25:45,300 --> 02:25:50,240
through code violations, both on the land use side, as well as things that are not

1659
02:25:50,240 --> 02:25:51,860
found in the land use code.

1660
02:25:52,600 --> 02:25:55,580
So what I've done, so this one,

1661
02:25:55,620 --> 02:25:57,180
so that they look very visually similar.

1662
02:25:57,480 --> 02:26:00,640
But one, yeah, but one with the yellow bar,

1663
02:26:00,640 --> 02:26:02,200
that'll probably help it stand out.

1664
02:26:02,540 --> 02:26:04,560
This is my recommended version going forward.

1665
02:26:04,920 --> 02:26:08,300
So I now have, you can see here, a larger block of number four,

1666
02:26:08,460 --> 02:26:10,900
where I've grouped three ordinances together,

1667
02:26:11,200 --> 02:26:13,940
due to similarities and overlapping content.

1668
02:26:14,400 --> 02:26:18,480
But essentially, I recommend tackling the procedural,

1669
02:26:18,480 --> 02:26:25,600
So how do we process code enforcement violations, which is found in Title 1 in applies to

1670
02:26:25,600 --> 02:26:30,600
then every other chapter in code, I recommend tackling that concurrently with the discussion

1671
02:26:30,600 --> 02:26:36,600
about nucenses, as well as, and this is more of a minor detail part of a chapter, but

1672
02:26:36,600 --> 02:26:41,120
it's noisy construction equipment and construction hours, because they all kind of relate.

1673
02:26:41,200 --> 02:26:45,180
The only time people call us to talk about construction hours is if it is somebody violating

1674
02:26:45,180 --> 02:26:45,780
them.

1675
02:26:45,780 --> 02:26:53,620
So I recommend doing those four together from there, number five, I didn't quite put it together because it tracks a little bit differently.

1676
02:26:53,940 --> 02:27:00,600
But that would be folding into the land use code, updated references to this general penalty section.

1677
02:27:01,300 --> 02:27:11,880
So I recommend be tackled how we're going to classify new senses, how we are going to administer penalties and that kind of thing first

1678
02:27:11,880 --> 02:27:13,860
and then folded into the land use code,

1679
02:27:13,960 --> 02:27:17,340
since the land use code section requires going to P&Z

1680
02:27:17,340 --> 02:27:18,580
in that hearing process.

1681
02:27:18,740 --> 02:27:20,880
So it doesn't track as smoothly with Council.

1682
02:27:22,080 --> 02:27:24,620
So that's my number one item to tackle as that topic.

1683
02:27:25,400 --> 02:27:29,140
After that, this is a new topic that's come up recently.

1684
02:27:29,700 --> 02:27:33,000
I think it's indicative of essentially

1685
02:27:33,000 --> 02:27:35,820
property owners working with what they have in Sun Valley.

1686
02:27:36,340 --> 02:27:40,200
So we're seeing an increase in condominium owners wanting

1687
02:27:40,200 --> 02:27:42,840
to expand their condominium units.

1688
02:27:43,900 --> 02:27:46,200
Historically, a couple of condo associations

1689
02:27:46,200 --> 02:27:50,500
have allowed these kitchen bumpouts and window bumpouts

1690
02:27:52,080 --> 02:27:55,340
through, I would say, less formal procedural means.

1691
02:27:56,100 --> 02:27:58,980
But really, when someone is expanding a condominium unit,

1692
02:27:59,220 --> 02:28:01,080
when you own a condo, you own the airspace.

1693
02:28:01,260 --> 02:28:02,520
It's different than owning a townhouse

1694
02:28:02,520 --> 02:28:04,960
where you own the structure in the land.

1695
02:28:05,600 --> 02:28:07,700
So when somebody wants to bump out their kitchen,

1696
02:28:07,700 --> 02:28:13,520
or they want to expand a ground floor on to and existing deck, they are going out of the

1697
02:28:13,520 --> 02:28:20,140
bounds of what they own into the HOA common area. And that alone is its own kind of sticky

1698
02:28:20,140 --> 02:28:26,320
procedure. We've been working with Matt on how to process these applications in a way where we

1699
02:28:26,320 --> 02:28:33,560
have shorty that the homeowners have the permissions from the HOA to do that. A letter from the HOA

1700
02:28:33,560 --> 02:28:38,620
not sufficient, we want an easement and then as a follow up to the easement we want a

1701
02:28:38,620 --> 02:28:43,100
plat amendment. We are getting significant pushback from condo owners and associations

1702
02:28:43,100 --> 02:28:50,580
and everyone. So we really just want to on the staff side tackle that quickly because of the

1703
02:28:50,580 --> 02:28:54,260
prevalence there. The other thing on note there and I have been communicating this out to the larger

1704
02:28:54,260 --> 02:29:02,320
associations is that it is also possible that when Idaho does eventually adopt updated building codes

1705
02:29:02,320 --> 02:29:08,280
that some of these condo associations do to their age and lack of things like virus sprinklers.

1706
02:29:08,300 --> 02:29:10,340
We may not be able to expand.

1707
02:29:11,220 --> 02:29:14,120
So there's also kind of a question of, as from a policy standpoint,

1708
02:29:14,280 --> 02:29:19,460
does the city even want to create a formal route for these condo units to do this?

1709
02:29:19,660 --> 02:29:22,240
Some of these condo buildings do not need snow load.

1710
02:29:22,260 --> 02:29:23,580
They do not have virus sprinklers.

1711
02:29:23,760 --> 02:29:25,000
We know they have access issues.

1712
02:29:25,780 --> 02:29:29,260
So coupled with, you know, how do we help homeowners improve what they have?

1713
02:29:29,260 --> 02:29:35,220
There is also this larger discussion of, do we, is that in the best interest of public health safety and welfare?

1714
02:29:35,640 --> 02:29:39,660
But we are getting, I would say, a bit of pressure from, from condo unit owners,

1715
02:29:40,160 --> 02:29:46,360
one because the neighbor across the way did it in 1989 or 1996 and so now they want to do it.

1716
02:29:47,780 --> 02:29:54,040
And so for us on the planning side, it's one that we had to muddle through three or four of these this summer.

1717
02:29:54,040 --> 02:29:59,760
and if we could adhere to this schedule more or less.

1718
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:19,100
In my perfect world, we'd have something like next March that I could ship out to all of the condo associations in the big property management companies that they could disseminate to the ownership and then everybody would be on the same page and it wouldn't be staff spending 40 hours on an 80 sort of what edition.

1719
02:30:19,100 --> 02:30:25,220
like it has been the summer where are the condo associations themselves on this issue because I feel like they

1720
02:30:25,220 --> 02:30:31,060
yeah governments even then we do they are a bit all over the map some associations have like kind of a

1721
02:30:31,060 --> 02:30:36,180
standard template where everyone's allowed to bump out their unit this much some associations have

1722
02:30:36,180 --> 02:30:41,360
attorneys that understand all of these issues when I explain the city's vantage point and they they are

1723
02:30:41,360 --> 02:30:48,460
100% on board of what the cities trying to do other associations are looking at the city and me as a

1724
02:30:48,460 --> 02:30:53,220
roadblocks, you homeowners, improving things, and, you know, so it's kind of all over the map.

1725
02:30:54,780 --> 02:31:12,040
Well, one thing perhaps to consider in terms of not wasting city time, staff time, might be to require before we entertain any such application.

1726
02:31:12,700 --> 02:31:18,140
First, they have to have the approval of their particular condo association and secondly

1727
02:31:18,140 --> 02:31:25,760
of SBEA if the condo is within SBEA before we tackle anything.

1728
02:31:26,660 --> 02:31:32,260
And largely the applications come to us with that because they are needing some level of approval

1729
02:31:32,260 --> 02:31:39,100
from the HOA to build on the common area land. And so another issue we've encountered is the applicant,

1730
02:31:39,100 --> 02:31:41,400
the architect, the homeowner, they say,

1731
02:31:41,460 --> 02:31:44,040
I have my HOA's approval, they're allowing me to do this,

1732
02:31:44,040 --> 02:31:46,980
and then we say, yes, but do you have an easement?

1733
02:31:47,840 --> 02:31:49,340
Like, okay, so, yeah, sure.

1734
02:31:49,340 --> 02:31:52,120
So when you have the race, I agree with your top three.

1735
02:31:52,620 --> 02:31:55,520
Okay, so those are the top three from there.

1736
02:31:56,320 --> 02:31:58,100
I don't believe I reordered this too too much,

1737
02:31:58,540 --> 02:32:00,740
but we have signs that would range everything

1738
02:32:00,740 --> 02:32:04,660
from construction signs, not regulated by content necessarily,

1739
02:32:05,320 --> 02:32:06,860
but what signs of signs are appropriate

1740
02:32:06,860 --> 02:32:08,000
and where can they go?

1741
02:32:08,000 --> 02:32:21,000
We do know that construction sites largely don't adhere to these and the signs we see during elections and for real estate agents often don't either so it just needs a refresh in a way that is on board with

1742
02:32:23,700 --> 02:32:26,160
We're going to go for you to talk to you.

1743
02:32:26,360 --> 02:32:27,740
Okay, one, thank you.

1744
02:32:27,860 --> 02:32:30,600
Moving on.

1745
02:32:34,550 --> 02:32:36,090
Discussion, number eight.

1746
02:32:36,370 --> 02:32:39,790
Discussion and approval of resolution 2026.

1747
02:32:40,370 --> 02:32:43,210
10 authorizing in America to actually keep contractors

1748
02:32:43,210 --> 02:32:45,050
versus the outside contractor.

1749
02:32:45,710 --> 02:32:47,670
Of course, fiscal year 2027.

1750
02:32:48,670 --> 02:32:49,910
Thank you, Mayor.

1751
02:32:50,350 --> 02:32:52,870
I wish before you today outlines your crew's funding

1752
02:32:52,870 --> 02:32:55,810
services with the contractors that are listed in the resolution.

1753
02:32:56,590 --> 02:33:01,890
Yes, today at a mountain that's listed in the day at the speed of proof in the

1754
02:33:01,890 --> 02:33:01,990
proof.

1755
02:33:03,010 --> 02:33:03,370
It's good.

1756
02:33:03,550 --> 02:33:08,210
Contract are largely the same that been in our curriculum at a speed of 20 and 30 and

1757
02:33:08,210 --> 02:33:08,350
30 and 30 pass.

1758
02:33:08,550 --> 02:33:09,430
Send to the cliff down.

1759
02:33:10,090 --> 02:33:13,370
So unless you have any questions, I recommend a motion to prove the resolution.

1760
02:33:14,010 --> 02:33:14,730
So, move.

1761
02:33:15,690 --> 02:33:16,030
Second.

1762
02:33:17,830 --> 02:33:19,590
Uh, vote point.

1763
02:33:19,810 --> 02:33:20,070
Yes.

1764
02:33:20,230 --> 02:33:20,430
Yes.

1765
02:33:20,730 --> 02:33:20,930
Yes.

1766
02:33:21,150 --> 02:33:21,270
Yes.

1767
02:33:21,270 --> 02:33:22,210
Thank you.

1768
02:33:22,450 --> 02:33:24,590
Thank you.

1769
02:33:25,100 --> 02:33:27,790
General, item number nine important.

1770
02:33:27,950 --> 02:33:28,770
I'm going to the Chancellor Council.

1771
02:33:28,810 --> 02:33:33,290
Make sure that the City Assembly makes a future member to Assembly Economic Development

1772
02:33:33,290 --> 02:33:40,330
Board continuing in efforts to involve City Council members more directly with outside

1773
02:33:40,330 --> 02:33:41,890
boards and commissions.

1774
02:33:42,710 --> 02:33:44,970
I'm nominating City Council member.

1775
02:33:45,290 --> 02:33:50,030
My much more to be the City of Assembly's ex officio member of the Assembly Economic

1776
02:33:51,210 --> 02:33:53,290
he's replacing Jim Keating.

1777
02:33:53,510 --> 02:33:55,470
Our city has ministering in this position.

1778
02:33:56,150 --> 02:33:58,290
Like a motion to confirm my appointment

1779
02:33:58,290 --> 02:34:01,850
on my approach more to the Sunder Economic Development Board.

1780
02:34:02,290 --> 02:34:03,010
Second.

1781
02:34:03,930 --> 02:34:04,710
Boone 2nd?

1782
02:34:05,610 --> 02:34:05,870
Boone?

1783
02:34:06,350 --> 02:34:06,750
Yes?

1784
02:34:08,030 --> 02:34:08,790
More at the stage.

1785
02:34:09,270 --> 02:34:09,910
Yeah, I see.

1786
02:34:11,110 --> 02:34:11,690
Yes.

1787
02:34:13,430 --> 02:34:13,870
Forgell?

1788
02:34:14,350 --> 02:34:15,050
Yes, yes.

1789
02:34:15,690 --> 02:34:18,630
Good. Thank you. Consent agenda.

1790
02:34:20,130 --> 02:34:28,090
Okay. The Finance Committee of Met has passed Monday. The committee puts it in myself.

1791
02:34:28,790 --> 02:34:34,970
And Council President Puppet. We went through everything in the packet.

1792
02:34:35,950 --> 02:34:39,610
And we were satisfied with whatever the questions we had.

1793
02:34:39,610 --> 02:34:49,190
And we would recommend the approval of the all packet of payables to the city council.

1794
02:34:50,290 --> 02:34:51,690
Can you send it in Tokyo?

1795
02:34:51,890 --> 02:34:52,310
In Tokyo?

1796
02:34:52,990 --> 02:34:53,150
In Tokyo?

1797
02:34:53,150 --> 02:34:53,470
In second?

1798
02:34:53,950 --> 02:34:54,710
In second?

1799
02:34:55,750 --> 02:34:56,430
Wait?

1800
02:34:56,950 --> 02:34:57,070
Yes.

1801
02:34:57,990 --> 02:34:58,010
Yes?

1802
02:34:58,010 --> 02:34:58,590
Yes.

1803
02:35:05,360 --> 02:35:08,300
We do have two people online.

1804
02:35:10,840 --> 02:35:14,580
If you'd like to comment, you can raise your hand and I will let you.

1805
02:35:21,440 --> 02:35:29,880
Public comment, I will close the public comment section on the meeting agenda and look for a motion. Second.

1806
02:35:33,580 --> 02:35:38,980
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, thank you, thank you, thank you very much