1 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:52,480 Hey Mark. >> Good evening. 2 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:39,400 » Good evening. Welcome to the Parks and Rec Committee meeting. Today is August 3 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:42,800 5th. It is 5:30 p.m. If I could get a roll call, please, 4 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,239 Mindy. >> Mrs. Cooper. 5 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,600 » Here. >> Mrs. Crawford. 6 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,239 » Here. >> Mr. Long. 7 00:03:46,519 --> 00:03:51,400 » Here. >> Three present, we have quorum. 8 00:03:49,959 --> 00:03:56,440 » Good evening. Welcome to the Parks and Rec Committee meeting. Today is August 9 00:03:53,040 --> 00:04:00,480 5th. It is 5:30 p.m. and I will call the names 10 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,640 Mrs. Mrs. 11 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,640 Here. 12 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:15,440 » I think so. I should check the audio. >> Okay. Okay, we'll try. 13 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:19,560 Yeah, it's recording and that's live. Um, technical difficulties. Moving on. 14 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:23,680 I'm looking for an approval of the minutes from the July 1st Parks meeting. 15 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:28,000 » I'll make a motion. >> I will second that motion. 16 00:04:25,840 --> 00:04:29,360 If you get a roll call, please. Mrs. Crawford. 17 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,520 » Yes. >> Mrs. Cooper. 18 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,240 » Yes. >> Mr. Long. 19 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:39,960 Three A's, motion approved. Thank you. Are there any visitors that would like 20 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:42,040 to speak to the Parks and Rec Committee this evening? 21 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:45,760 » Well, we're going to have Aaron come up and do a presentation. We don't have any 22 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:52,160 visitors, but we do have an announcement of a new employee. So, let's do that. 23 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:57,520 » Yes. So, in the audience, uh, we have Adam Teach. He is the engineering 24 00:04:54,720 --> 00:05:03,120 technician. Uh, his first day was on Monday. He comes to us from GSI, uh, 25 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:09,040 which is a a company that does, um, material testing, uh, but has a lot of 26 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:13,880 construction in his background. He's already been out to J.R. Smith Park. Um, 27 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:18,800 so he's aware of what's going on over at that, uh, $3.5 million project, um, as 28 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:23,640 well as a lot of the other construction that's going on. So, please, if you see 29 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:28,720 him out and about or if you have questions, his, uh, 30 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:32,480 email is No, I'm just kidding. Please feel free to reach out to him via 31 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:36,120 email. I'm happy to give his contact information. What's his title? 32 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:39,080 » Uh, engineering technician. >> Welcome to the family. 33 00:05:39,840 --> 00:05:43,680 » Great. >> And then, did you want to move to Mr. 34 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,440 Nobler after >> he's 35 00:05:43,919 --> 00:05:49,880 » Is he on the He's not on the agenda in a more specific He's going to do the 36 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:54,040 presentation on the Old Orchard Park. >> Oh, okay. Then we will just transition 37 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:59,760 right into unfinished business with Old Orchard Park. And then I would like to 38 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,760 invite Mr. Noblet up to the podium. 39 00:05:59,960 --> 00:06:07,480 » Hello everybody. Thanks for having me. Um Aaron Noblet, consulting arborist 40 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:12,040 with the city. Um talking about potential management strategies for Old 41 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:15,720 Orchard Park. Um Let's go ahead and go to the next slide. 42 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:21,919 Uh just a comparison. Rosecrans Park on the 43 00:06:19,919 --> 00:06:26,240 left here compared to Old Orchard. Rosecrans is my a my basically a mature 44 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:31,120 woods where you have, you know, just a mature 45 00:06:27,840 --> 00:06:34,200 stand of oak, hickory, beech, maple. And there isn't much you have to do to 46 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:38,520 make it beautiful other than keep out the invasives, which we've been doing 47 00:06:35,919 --> 00:06:42,440 over the last handful of years. Where Old Orchard is what 48 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:47,240 you would consider the early stages of forest succession where it was a Old 49 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:50,520 Orchard with some apple trees. Otherwise, I'm assuming it was just kind 50 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:54,240 of cleared land. And then it was just left unmanaged. So 51 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:58,320 what you get is this kind of explosion of growth that kind of just is real 52 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:03,320 thick and some people might say unsightly, but you 53 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:09,480 get a combination of beneficial native vegetation and exotic invasives that 54 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:14,680 don't belong there. Um so that's kind of a summary of just And And with time, 55 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:18,800 over decades and decades, with proper management, it will 56 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:22,160 eventually look more like Rosecrans and, you know, be more appealing and a 57 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:26,640 healthy forest. Um if that's the goal of the city. So I 58 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:30,080 guess go to the next slide. >> Can I ask a question on that slide 59 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:34,560 though? Is the majority of what I'm looking at at Old Orchard Park 60 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:37,919 trees or invasive other stuff? In those 61 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:42,040 » It's a combination. >> Okay. 62 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:46,320 » So you've got native trees and a and maybe some exotic invasives like calorie 63 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:50,040 pear. Luckily, not a lot of the flowering pear has moved in there. 64 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,920 More of the invasives being in the understory where you've got I'll get 65 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:57,080 into that a little bit. >> Okay. 66 00:07:53,600 --> 00:08:01,000 » Um want to go to the next slide. So, what can we do to help speed up the 67 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:04,920 recovery? Um you know, just the the most basic thing 68 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:08,920 we can do if we're to you know, say we don't have a lot of resources to put 69 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:11,520 into this park or we just want to do you know, just the bare minimum it would 70 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:15,800 be kind of a routine annual or maybe two 71 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:19,040 times a year invasive species removal project 72 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:23,919 where we're removing the honeysuckle, privet, multiflora rose, poison hemlock, 73 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:27,040 flowering pear, and Japanese barberry. And I'm there's probably some in there 74 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:31,200 that I'm missing. Um so, getting those invasives out of 75 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:35,560 there so that they're the beneficial native vegetation can thrive. Cuz it 76 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:39,960 kind of chokes it out and if you leave it too long, it can be just you know, 77 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:43,560 get even worse and be harder harder to manage. 78 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:48,400 And then if there's openings to plant Ohio natives, you know, help that 79 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:52,320 process along where we can plant trees and shrubs and you know, 80 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:54,240 pollinator-friendly flowering plants as well 81 00:08:53,360 --> 00:09:00,040 in the process. >> Is the removal of the invasive species 82 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:03,960 species something that our services team can do with your supervision? 83 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:06,960 » Yeah, I think so. Yeah, just identifying. 84 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,960 That's the biggest thing is making sure that we're not removing beneficial 85 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:14,240 plants. So, making sure that we're properly identifying it. 86 00:09:11,839 --> 00:09:17,720 And it's not huge stuff. So, you can you can cut it and then very carefully treat 87 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:21,440 it with an herbicide like basically paint it on the stump. If we're able to 88 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:24,920 totally uproot it, then we don't have to use herbicides at all. But sometimes 89 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,440 that's not feasible if there's you know, plants are just too big. 90 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,760 » So, you're not talking about big machinery or 91 00:09:28,560 --> 00:09:34,240 » Well, it depends. I'll get into that a little down the road if we it depends on 92 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:38,360 the the vision that the city has for it. But 93 00:09:36,680 --> 00:09:42,480 for the majority of the park, I would say and I was kind of 94 00:09:40,680 --> 00:09:45,760 I did quite a bit of investigating to figure out, okay, what's actually back 95 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:49,000 here? It may have looked like weeds, but there's a lot of 96 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:53,320 good stuff in there mixed in with stuff that we don't want in there. So, I think 97 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:56,720 for the majority of the park, I think kind of hand selectively removing the 98 00:09:54,960 --> 00:10:00,080 invasives and leaving it natural and letting it go through that cycle of 99 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:03,760 forest succession. It's going to take a while, but 100 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:08,680 but if there's an opening into it later where if we wanted to have a heavier 101 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:12,840 hand managing an area, I've got some ideas for that, too. So. 102 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:15,080 » But, for step one, likely our services team could do the work with your 103 00:10:14,560 --> 00:10:18,600 » Yeah. >> supervision and knowledge and 104 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:23,840 » Yeah. It'd be good to pick a I don't know. It'd be nice to do it 105 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:27,480 when the ticks aren't as active, you know, like early winter. 106 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:32,480 Um and just, you know, maybe 107 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:36,600 designate a few days to it and and just once a year go at it until we get it 108 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:39,560 under control. And unfortunately, you can't just say, 109 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:42,839 okay, we're done now. Then you have to be proactive. You just 110 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:47,000 got to you kind of get a feel for, okay, this likes to pop up here. But, once you 111 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:50,480 get the bulk of it done after those first several years, 112 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:53,440 » You can identify that stuff when it's cold out. 113 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:58,240 » Yeah. And then it's just kind of like proactive maintenance from there. 114 00:10:55,720 --> 00:11:01,839 Um if we if we designate it, you know, year after year and then it's just kind 115 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:08,200 of like we it pops up and you're you're being more proactive than reactive. 116 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,200 So, if you want to go to the next slide. 117 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:14,040 Grapevine is another it's basically that's an apple tree. The 118 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:18,960 stone age consumed with grape vine. So, from an aesthetic, grape vine is native, 119 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:22,839 it's beneficial to wildlife, but in this case, it's just, you know, it's choking 120 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:26,880 out trees that we would want. It's choking out some of the wild apple 121 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:32,360 trees, but it's choking out black walnuts and hackberries and other trees 122 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:36,160 that we would want to release and so, I would say grapevine control would 123 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:39,880 be important at this stage. Um carefully, you know, cutting and 124 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:44,720 carefully treating the the the fresh cut stump with an herbicide. 125 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:48,320 Um that alone, getting the grapevine under control of invasives is going to 126 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:51,920 really, you know, from the aesthetics of the park, it won't look like as much of 127 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:55,240 the stuff of a rat's nest. 128 00:11:53,960 --> 00:12:00,840 Um I'm going to go on to the next slide. 129 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:05,880 So like critical features in this park is Prairie Creek does run through it and 130 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:12,160 it also runs through Evening Street Park on the other side of Granville Street. 131 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:16,240 So like thinking of Prairie Creek uh as we want to preserve riparian 132 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:20,960 buffers on both sides of the creek, which would be a vegetated area that 133 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:24,680 acts as a filter. Uh so contamination, you know, 134 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:29,000 contaminants, pollutants that might be coming down into the creek can be up 135 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:33,440 taken up by the trees and you know, it it basically just acts like filtration 136 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:36,200 to protect the water quality of the creek. 137 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:39,560 So if you were to ask like Delaware County Soil and Water Conservation 138 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:45,040 District, they're going to say anywhere that you can have a riparian buffer, a 139 00:12:41,680 --> 00:12:49,680 healthy riparian buffer along the creek is good, you know, because this creek 140 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:54,160 spills into Hoover Reservoir, which is the drinking water for 141 00:12:51,839 --> 00:12:56,839 a bunch of municipalities south of us, so 142 00:12:55,240 --> 00:13:00,040 just kind of being good stewards of the creek. Uh 143 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:03,720 so I would say within the park, definitely preserving 144 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:07,680 the forest with is adjacent to the creek as much as 145 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:11,560 possible and just focus on on on basics there. 146 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:14,560 Uh again, Delaware County Soil and Water is 147 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:18,880 that's kind of their bread and butter, what their goals are for protecting 148 00:13:16,680 --> 00:13:23,000 water quality and their, you know, soil erosion, so they're really 149 00:13:20,839 --> 00:13:27,600 up to speed on that. Um if you want to go to the next slide. 150 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:30,520 Um on the other side of Granville Street 151 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:35,000 where the library side, you know, I would like 152 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:39,800 to get there and Delaware County so on the water where you can see the grass 153 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:44,160 goes all the way up to the creek. We did plant a row of bald cypress and 154 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:47,880 some swamp white oaks there, but I know that they like to talk about creating no 155 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:51,640 mow zones where you allow vegetation to grow up of 156 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:55,320 course trying to get natives to take over and then they kind 157 00:13:53,680 --> 00:13:59,560 of have it on a mowing rotation which creates a buffer 158 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:04,080 and then planting trees to create shade which will cool the water which the 159 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:07,120 hotter the water is and the water is more you're going to get a bacterial 160 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:11,400 growth and so considering maybe seeing what they would 161 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:14,120 say for maybe managing that side of the creek a little better so we're not 162 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:18,000 because I'm assuming they're maybe putting lawn chemicals straight up to 163 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,880 the edge there. Um 164 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:24,480 so that would be something to consider. We do have some really good trees 165 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:28,680 growing though so that's that's a good start but I know that they might be big 166 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:33,920 on no mow zones where you kind of create a meadow along the creek and then 167 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:40,560 allow trees or plant trees uh in combination. 168 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:45,600 Um and that could go in the NPDES report as being proactive. It could go under 169 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:49,040 the Tree City USA report that we're you know, we're creating right earning 170 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:52,320 buffers along Brandywine Creek. And basically any tree the city is 171 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:56,640 responsible for that's that's a good idea or frankly so on the water or 172 00:14:54,960 --> 00:15:01,120 they'd be the ones to help out with that. Um 173 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:03,720 do you want to go to the next slide? Um 174 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:09,320 at the back of the park there's kind of a grassy meadow area. It's got a lot of 175 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:13,880 golden rod and wing stem and some other good stuff 176 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:19,560 but it also has poison hemlock which is a pretty nasty plant. Um 177 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:22,760 Jake last year did some the the service department did some 178 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:26,560 management of that but it pops up every year. So, within the meadow area at the 179 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:29,960 back of the park, we're really going after that poison hemlock. That's a 180 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:33,080 critical. The time to hit that is in March when it's about that high off the 181 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:37,360 ground and just spray it when it's when it's 182 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:41,720 low because it needs to be 8 to 10 ft tall and makes, you know, spraying 183 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:45,360 you're spraying everything else around. So, 184 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:51,040 and just a word on that, the property behind Old Orchard where the meadow is 185 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:55,000 that the HOA owns is just covered in poison hemlock. So, it'd be good to 186 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:58,000 maybe work in combination with them and see if they'd be interested in helping 187 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:02,880 manage it. Otherwise, the seeds are just going to keep falling over. 188 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:08,040 And then, um it is a pretty neat little meadow area though that'd be beneficial 189 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:12,000 for pollinators and wildlife. Um so, maybe figuring out 190 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:16,920 what's the best way to manage that. Is it should be mowed every 3 years? Could 191 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:20,640 we sprinkle other seeds in there to get, you know, more flowering plants going 192 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:25,240 that are native? Control invasives, you know, you can put 193 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:30,120 up bluebird boxes. So, there's a lot of things that could go on on the meadow 194 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:34,520 side at the back of the park. That's the massive pile of massive plant back 195 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:39,520 behind there for reference. So, it's it's kind of neat to have it 196 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:42,960 there. Um you know, cuz it is different than the 197 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:48,040 forested section of the park. Uh if you want to go to the next slide. 198 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:50,920 So, the old apple trees, you know, they're just 199 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:55,600 they're in rough shape. You know, they've they've a lot of them are half 200 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:59,040 dead or covered in grapevine. So, the idea of reviving them, I mean, I 201 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:03,480 would say the ones that are healthy enough to keep around, keep them around, 202 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:07,199 kind of prune out the dead. But, the idea that it will ever be a 203 00:17:05,319 --> 00:17:10,839 functional orchard again, I mean, to grow apple trees is major maintenance 204 00:17:09,839 --> 00:17:14,240 with pruning and treatments. They're really 205 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:18,079 susceptible to all kinds of fungal diseases. So, 206 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:22,160 you know, these places that are drawing quality apples, either whether they're 207 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:25,920 using an organic program or they're using synthetics, they're they're really 208 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:31,240 spraying and and controlling disease. So, 209 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:35,480 the I I would say it's nice to keep the old health apple trees that still have 210 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:42,120 some life life left to them, but in general, they're pretty dilapidated. 211 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:46,360 So, I think eventually just letting the the Ohio native forest trees take over 212 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:49,480 would be the ultimate goal in the long run. 213 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:53,000 And um >> So, that definitely wouldn't be your 214 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:56,680 recommendation to plant apple trees. >> Well, maybe in one section I'll get I'll 215 00:17:55,360 --> 00:17:59,040 go to the next slide. >> Yeah, that's where I was going with 216 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:03,000 that. >> like 217 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:06,520 just to kind of honor the history of the park, 218 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:09,880 you know, around Johnny Appleseed, maybe some dwarf 219 00:18:08,120 --> 00:18:14,880 disease-resistant apple trees would be cool. That I think that'd be a way to 220 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:17,480 kind of commemorate the history of the park, 221 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:21,240 but keeping it simple, you know, and and 222 00:18:19,360 --> 00:18:25,200 that would be something manageable where they could be pruned and 223 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:27,720 and kept nice. Um 224 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:31,640 Apple trees in general are they're they're wild, you know, like it 225 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:36,080 you should see like Lenz's orchard. They're pruning those like constantly 226 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:39,480 even the way they look. So, that would be an idea. 227 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:44,480 Um do you want to go to the next slide? 228 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:48,080 And then something I'm almost finished here, but just 229 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:52,880 something to consider if we if we did want to have a more heavily managed area 230 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:58,400 of the park while it's going through that those stages of forest succession, 231 00:18:55,920 --> 00:19:04,800 I thought it might be an idea to create like a natural play area where we would 232 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:07,360 be more aggressive with mowing down the overgrowth 233 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:10,200 um and 234 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:15,320 if there would be more like a focal point of the park and it could be a 235 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:18,040 place for, you know, benches for sitting or 236 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:23,240 um a big thing now that parks are doing is they're using like rocks and tree 237 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:26,160 stumps to create play spaces for kids. >> Mhm. 238 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:30,200 » So, boulders I would say only plant Ohio natives 239 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:33,920 except for the apple trees around Johnny. Um 240 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:38,720 you know, it could look really pretty and um I don't know if when I worked at 241 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:42,520 New Albany the developers would as they were digging they would stash 242 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:44,080 the boulders up on the side and the city would come pick them up and put them in 243 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:48,560 the park. >> Sure. That's a good idea. 244 00:19:45,360 --> 00:19:53,400 » Which was and we and if I really want to go to the next slide. 245 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:57,560 So, this is in Rose Run Park in New Albany 246 00:19:54,760 --> 00:20:03,400 an example of a play area like that. Uh and it's kind of this park Rose Run 247 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:07,960 was right along Rose Run Creek over by like between Market Street and 248 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:10,680 62. Um 249 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:13,880 back behind the library and mellow mushroom and all that. 250 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:17,920 And it was just it looked like old orchard when they started 15 years ago. 251 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:21,560 And if you walk through it now, I mean they heavily managed it. 252 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:25,520 But um 253 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:30,720 it it's just kind of shows what it can look like with time and patience and 254 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:37,400 kind of controlling the invasives. But that, you know, it's it's just a 255 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:42,000 simple rocks, benches, logs and Ohio native planting landscape. 256 00:20:40,360 --> 00:20:45,440 Uh but if you're ever in the area there it it it's really 257 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:49,920 that'd be a good representation of kind of what it can be. 258 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:54,200 » And on the picture that you superimposed that onto ours you had it sort of in 259 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:58,080 front like along Granville. >> Yeah, it wouldn't have to be. I mean it 260 00:20:55,880 --> 00:21:02,720 could be wherever makes sense. And what what my concern that I would have is 261 00:21:00,360 --> 00:21:05,480 like how high is the flooding? >> Mhm. 262 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:10,120 » That because we wouldn't want to like put mulch and plants there and then it 263 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:14,320 floods away so yeah so up higher maybe up it makes sense and figure out how 264 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:18,960 high the water comes you know when we get extreme rainfall 265 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:23,000 but I don't know if I was just thinking maybe visible from Granville just 266 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:26,760 because it's kind of pretty focal point but just an idea if we wanted to do 267 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:32,040 something a little more heavy-handed with management 268 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:36,960 and you know a lot of that what would be removed in the process you 269 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:41,560 probably have to like use a forestry grinder 270 00:21:38,360 --> 00:21:45,560 and preserve whatever trees are you know want to keep in the process but for the 271 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:50,080 most part a lot of it will go and I don't think we'd be cutting down 272 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:54,840 anything special you know so what's that material on the ground then 273 00:21:52,360 --> 00:22:01,560 is that just I think just mulch 274 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,560 just mulch and boulders and benches 275 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:09,520 but they definitely like they definitely plant only Ohio native landscaping plant 276 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:13,080 which is most which is common in most parts these days 277 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,760 so I'm going to go to the next slide I 278 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:20,880 think that's all I have I have a question do you think there's 279 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:25,680 enough room to do something like this and still have some of the dwarf 280 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:28,640 apple trees I mean I didn't 281 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:33,200 measure it out or anything I was just trying to come up with 282 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:38,360 I walked through the park with reservation parks their their resource 283 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:42,560 manager and they were talking about how they like to do these natural play areas 284 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:45,400 any opportunity they get so I just and charm our park if you've ever been back 285 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,560 there at the Granville little thing along the side of the creek 286 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:54,680 but yeah I think there'd be room and you know depending on how big we would want 287 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:58,320 this space to be but I think it could be like a good focal 288 00:22:56,360 --> 00:23:01,160 point or as the rest of the park is going through 289 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:05,120 the kind of the ugly stage where you would 290 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:08,960 have a pretty spot, you know. And it's walking distance from downtown. 291 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:14,000 People can walk down to the coffee and whatever else. So, just an idea. 292 00:23:12,360 --> 00:23:17,760 » It's a great idea. I like it. >> It's right 293 00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:21,040 It's just within walking distance of the apartments, of the communities. 294 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:25,720 » Yeah, there's people back there quite a bit. There's a the connectivity. 295 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:33,440 You have the trail, so it could potentially get a lot of traffic. 296 00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:33,440 So, that's that's basically all I have. 297 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:40,160 » Love it, Daryl. >> I think I do, too. 298 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,960 Appreciate it. Yeah, thanks for having us. 299 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:45,520 » Yeah. So, um yeah, Aaron Aaron, thank you so much. 300 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:48,920 We appreciate that. So, yeah. I mean, yeah, obviously we've talked to Johnny. 301 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:55,120 We've talked about trying to do something with that park. This would be 302 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:59,400 a relatively low-cost option, at least to get started. As you've already 303 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:03,200 checked out, I mean, sounds like our service team could do some of it, not 304 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:06,360 all of it, but uh maybe to get ourselves started or something. So, 305 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:09,520 Yeah, I think what we're really looking for is 306 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:13,840 » potential collaboration with Delaware, with Franklin County, 307 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:16,920 with their soil and everything he said. >> Yeah, I definitely jotted down some of 308 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:20,240 those notes as well. I think we'll we've got a relationship with soil and water. 309 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,760 We'll follow up with them up regarding the the creek. 310 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:27,400 » said, with the tree city you know, it's just a lot of good It's all good. I 311 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:30,760 think what I'm hearing is it's not terribly We're not talking about a $4 312 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:35,240 million project here, but we are talking about things that will are beneficial to 313 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:38,600 the city and to our residents and potentially our younger residents as 314 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,760 well, if we go that route. So, >> Yeah. 315 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:44,600 All right. Well, we'll keep uh >> It makes our passive park a little bit 316 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,160 more enjoyable. >> Yeah. 317 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,480 » Yeah. For sure. 318 00:24:48,360 --> 00:24:52,240 Yeah. Yeah, so we'll 319 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:57,480 uh we'll have the team. So, we have our tree team. 320 00:24:53,800 --> 00:25:00,520 That's Alyssa, Jake, uh Aaron. Um you know, kind of keep digging a little 321 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:06,240 deeper, figure out what we could maybe do later this year, dig into next year, 322 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:08,480 etc., etc. So. Yeah, I love that. Like it. 323 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:12,240 » Thanks. Appreciate it. 324 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,680 » Anything else to add, Mark? >> I was, uh, 325 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:17,360 » Yes. >> I'm supportive of cleaning up that area. 326 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:21,280 I know I've been through there a couple times with my kids. I know with the 327 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:24,840 future development of that space, I know a lot of residents are already down 328 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:30,920 there. I think that'd be a really great investment, long-term and short-term as 329 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:35,520 we continue forward. I like the I'll say 330 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:40,800 less developed part of a park, right? So, the idea of just walking through the 331 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:42,680 woods than to have a huge development or expense of upkeep. 332 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,480 » Right. >> And we're doing that at the Arsenal. So, 333 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:50,560 we're looking for that. We have it there, and then there's so many 334 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:53,120 health benefits to kids just being in nature and playing on natural 335 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,600 » Absolutely. >> Is that each and everyone can 336 00:25:55,080 --> 00:26:00,040 » Yeah. >> I'm supportive to just short walks, too, 337 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:02,480 and with your coffee in the morning, whatever you 338 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:06,000 » Yeah. And as that area over there with Mr. Genovese's property gets developed, 339 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,320 it's just a good spot. >> Yeah. 340 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:15,040 » Thank you. >> Okay. Do we have a J.R. Smith Park Grant 341 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,640 update? >> Yes. 342 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:55,240 » So, not as big of an update I was I was hoping for this month. Um, we got a 343 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:59,160 quote on some additional items and I didn't receive it until 344 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:04,680 an hour before the meeting. So, I'll have more to share on that next month, 345 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:07,520 but on packet page 19 slide. 346 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:13,160 So, these are some items that were removed from the bid documents that we 347 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:18,240 reached out to our um playground supplier. So, we can get all 348 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:21,760 of these back with the ODNR funding. Um >> We removed these for financial reasons. 349 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:27,400 » Okay. >> now with the extra funds from ODNR, we 350 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:30,960 can bring all of them back >> Okay. 351 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:35,920 » and add to it as well. So, the drinking fountain with the 352 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:42,840 refillable water bottle, um the grill, about six benches, and a bike rack. 353 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:47,120 » I remember years ago um too and the bench that you're showing here has them, 354 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:52,160 but I remember years ago having somebody from I think it was Source Point maybe 355 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:57,320 out and recommended when we put benches in that we have those side handles on 356 00:27:55,640 --> 00:28:00,480 them like it's showing in that picture. So, I just want to make sure we do that. 357 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,560 It um It helps with getting in and out of 358 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:06,600 benches, I remember. >> And those are also the same ones we have 359 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,240 at the reservoirs, too. So, >> Yeah, perfect. 360 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,960 » keeping it consistent. >> Yeah. 361 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:14,560 » Um I don't have pricing on all of it yet. Well, I have to dive into it, but 362 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:19,040 that's what's included in with the quote. Um go to the next slide. 363 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:24,640 So, additional items that we asked him to get pricing for was some shade 364 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:27,120 covered benches, um some swings especially. 365 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:30,800 » We don't have We don't have any swings. >> We don't have swings and we were looking 366 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,040 um Sorry, do you want to go back to space 367 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:39,240 two? So, oops. 368 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:42,800 Right over in this area would be where the swings would go. 369 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:47,400 There's enough space because you have to have that Essentially, I believe it was 370 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:52,240 20 ft on each side for the swings, for the safety zone. So, 371 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,240 that's essentially where they would go. Um 372 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:59,000 » And so, I'm going to go down two more. Yeah. 373 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:04,240 » And we would do a three-bay, so six swings total, and we would do two of the 374 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,680 ADA, two regular, and then one toddler, and then one 375 00:29:05,595 --> 00:29:11,000 » [clears throat] >> tandem swing as well. 376 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:15,800 Um it can be covered or cannot be covered, either or. Um 377 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:20,920 but we were looking at the benches with the shade covering at the splash pad and 378 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:24,400 the playground. >> Okay, if you want to go to the next one. 379 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:29,960 » So, these are just some of the shade structures that we received quotes for. 380 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:35,280 Um these would be at the splash pad, so maybe two or three, 381 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:39,400 probably one on each side, just so to offer, you know, cuz right now there's 382 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:45,640 no shade, and since we have this extra funding, we can now get the more more 383 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:52,240 extra amenities, essentially. So. >> No shade other than trees that will be a 384 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,240 a little bit small at first. 385 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:59,800 » So, at a quick glance of the quotes, 386 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:07,640 all of that plus these shade structures, we only hit maybe 135,000 max. So, we 387 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:11,320 still have a lot more. So, we can do more if you guys like the direction of 388 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:14,920 this, and we are looking into the security cameras. We are going to 389 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,480 coordinate with PD about that as well. >> So. 390 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:21,560 » I was just going to ask him about that. I know money came from a couple 391 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:25,320 different places, um but so with security or cameras, yeah. I thought 392 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:29,320 there was something else. Not signs, cuz you guys are working on 393 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:33,920 signs. >> Uh lighting. I think the lighting was 394 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:39,360 the other thing as well. Um >> Or maybe like an entrance feature was 395 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,360 something we talked about, too. 396 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,640 » The entrance feature? Just like a separate one. Like so we 397 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,640 have the >> It's just something we 398 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,200 » drew up. >> Yeah. 399 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,920 » It was something that was pulled from the original plan since we were looking 400 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,960 at signage. >> Yeah, was it? 401 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:57,720 » Mhm. >> We could get quotes if that's something 402 00:30:55,680 --> 00:31:00,560 that committee would like to see. >> Yes, I would. 403 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:05,360 » I think it's important to keep in mind that we don't have to spend the money 404 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:09,280 right now. We have time. >> So we can look at adding items. We can 405 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,080 evaluate the park. >> And we can add 406 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:15,680 » See what we're missing. >> Yeah, I I think the key thing that we 407 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:20,600 need to keep a lookout for now is anything that would be important to 408 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:22,400 consider while it's under construction. >> Mhm. 409 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:26,840 » Um that's certainly something we're looking at with some of the other funds 410 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:31,280 such as that pavement replacement around the Lions building, uh full depth uh 411 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:35,240 replacement of the pavement that's below the Lions building. It was in um 412 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:40,720 disrepair. Um so we have some additional funding 413 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:44,720 outside of the ODNR uh that we'll be able to utilize that for. But if we can 414 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:49,800 put it as a change order into the existing contract, we'll save money on 415 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:55,360 certain items. Other items may need to be designed at a later point in time and 416 00:31:52,920 --> 00:32:01,440 installed um when we have a little bit more information such as the park um or 417 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:05,120 the trail extensions that we discussed. >> And this still includes like what you 418 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:08,240 were telling us about with the sidewalk. Like that was all still in there. 419 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:11,560 » Yes, we So >> So that was a different 420 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:16,120 » Yes, so Alyssa was talking about the ODNR funding and some of the items we 421 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:21,080 evaluated and shared and pulled out. We are we have very specific items that uh 422 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:26,440 we need to utilize the earmarked $375,000 423 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:32,520 for uh parking improvements, sidewalk, uh trail extension, possibly some road 424 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:39,520 and other um improvements uh in the city street just 425 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:45,080 outside of um the Lions building. We're actually not touching that segment 426 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:50,160 between the 37 widening project and um when we do the mountable curb at Cherry 427 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:54,960 Street. So, that's the location we may be able to look at doing some 428 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:58,960 improvements to maybe um not have a gap in the the brand new area and then some 429 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:02,120 landscape improvements, as well. >> That sounds good. 430 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:08,920 » These items you're getting for a bid, is it a It sounds like it's a matter of 431 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,760 these We probably have funding to do all of 432 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:15,160 these. It's a matter of picking which ones we want. 433 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:19,400 » Yeah, so these were initially included in the bid, but we removed them for cost 434 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:24,800 reasons. Um but now with [clears throat] that additional funding from ODNR, we 435 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:27,640 can now add all that stuff back in. >> Okay. 436 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:32,960 » Yeah, we had originally talked about potentially looking at donations um to 437 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:37,320 try and add some of this back, but now that we have funding, um I think that's 438 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:40,080 the avenue we're going to go, but if you do know someone who wants to sponsor a 439 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:46,120 bench, so something that would be available. 440 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:52,400 » Melissa, do you know um at other parks if these grills are 441 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:56,320 utilized, if folks use these at parks? >> I think they do. I um 442 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:59,680 I personally never grilled out on them, but I think I've seen other people do. I 443 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:03,600 know So, my parents live across from Hanna 444 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:08,399 Park, so I grew up there in um Gahanna and that they always use that 445 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,919 grill. That grill's used all the time. If you look at it, it's all charred and 446 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:15,360 everything, so. >> And I we would place them, I would 447 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:18,159 suppose, near the pavilion. 448 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:22,360 » Yeah, near the shelter house, but at a safe distance for fire. 449 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:25,280 » Is it just one grill or is >> Yeah, we just have one. 450 00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:29,560 » two or >> We could do two. I don't know how I 451 00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:31,520 think one would probably be plenty, but if we want to do two, we can definitely 452 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,960 do two. >> It says grill on here, is that what you 453 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:39,360 added? Yeah, we had had it originally. Yeah, I 454 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,480 think it was one of the grills up on the shelter. 455 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:46,840 » Mhm. >> Yeah, I think we just had one initially 456 00:34:43,720 --> 00:34:46,840 that was removed. 457 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:57,160 » I know Berkshire Township just installed a newer facility by the Township 458 00:34:54,520 --> 00:35:01,880 administrative building. Mhm. And I saw their grill and it's already 459 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:05,200 been utilized, so >> Okay, I was just curious. I wasn't 460 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:10,240 saying anything. No, I was just curious if folks do that. 461 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,880 » As far as the shade structures go, what's the maintenance on that or 462 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:17,640 durability? >> So, the maintenance actually 463 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:21,760 see here. >> Definitely a question I asked as well 464 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:26,840 when we were talking about them. >> Yeah, so the service life with proper 465 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:34,080 maintenance is 20 years with them. They're relatively low maintenance and 466 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:38,720 these like the actual shade pieces, those detach, so they can just remove 467 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:43,000 those, store them for the winter, and then reinstall them when in spring. 468 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,360 » So, somebody has to take them down every year and put them back up. 469 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:49,200 » And remember where we put them, right Daryl? 470 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:53,800 And remember where we put them. >> You're saying they don't easily tear or 471 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:57,120 » No, I don't think they are that >> You're saying they have probably about 472 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:59,240 20-year lifespan and by then maybe the trees are grown in. 473 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:03,720 » Yeah, and they're they're a mesh material, so air is able to get through 474 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:08,000 them. Um, but certainly we'll have to look at 475 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:12,360 what the manufacturer's recommendations are as far as wind is concerned and be 476 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:17,200 aware if there is maintenance or we need to 477 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:21,200 maybe unhook and one of the sides during storms. Those all be considerations that 478 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:25,920 we'll have to look at because it definitely will have some upkeep if we 479 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:29,360 don't maintain it, 20 years is um not going to be their service life. 480 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:35,720 » I like the the idea of the shade structures, especially as the trees are 481 00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:39,360 growing in. I just remember multiple times being at 482 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:42,800 a playground being like, especially the new ones, and the trees just are not big 483 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:46,520 enough. But to that question, do we have enough 484 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:51,000 trees where maybe in the future the trees are providing the shades instead 485 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:56,240 of the structures? But I'm thinking splash pad, it doesn't look big with any 486 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,240 trees over there. 487 00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:02,760 » Yeah, I mean it's definitely something from a landscaping perspective that we 488 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:07,840 can we can add to the site. I I would think once we get the trees installed, 489 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:11,360 we should reevaluate, you know, whether or not we want to bring in some 490 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:14,880 additional. I might know Oh, he's not here anymore. But I might know someone 491 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:19,520 who who could take a look at it to see if if that would be a benefit. 492 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:23,680 » Yeah, so so my recollection when we were going through the design process, mostly 493 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:27,040 we were trying to get I think trees for screening and 494 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:30,360 more so than shade, and the idea was then we would do shade structures to 495 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:34,000 support that. I think there was some concern about getting trees too close to 496 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:37,000 the splash pad because they can be dirty, believe. 497 00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:39,880 » Yeah, that that creates a problem in term Yeah, so. 498 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:43,400 » Yeah, I I would agree with that as well. >> I was just I was saying that the I'm 499 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:49,520 just roots can get wildy. >> Okay, good call. Yeah, all right. 500 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:54,720 » Yeah, if we want to do shade structures for playgrounds, they 501 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,720 have a million to choose from. 502 00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:01,120 So that's kind of where we're at and 503 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,080 so far with the grant funding, but yeah. 504 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:12,360 » Something that we mentioned before that I'd be interested in learning more about 505 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:18,720 financially is if it would be possible to put in seating like they have at the 506 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:23,800 dinosaur park, the dinosaur splash pad in Delaware. They have like permanent 507 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:26,240 seats and tables. And if we're going to have shade, it 508 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:29,080 would be nice to have somewhere for the adults to sit. 509 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:32,960 » Yeah, because in addition we were talking about like adding They're not 510 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:37,960 permanent, but more benches and maybe some picnic tables over there. But we 511 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:42,240 can look into the permanent. >> I'm just curious since since Delaware 512 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:46,240 did it, let's let's see what they did and what it would cost and is it 513 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:52,920 possible with their engineering people with their 514 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,920 spacing and stuff. 515 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:03,120 » So maybe just a a quick point on the status of the JR Smith Park. So we 516 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:06,720 talked about grant funding, but where are we on the construction piece? And 517 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:10,160 that is one of the things Adam's getting very familiar with at 518 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,600 the park. For better or worse. 519 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:15,480 » Do you have anything? That's in our monthly report. 520 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:20,160 » we do have that later. Sorry. >> Oh, okay. I'm happy to give it now 521 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,160 though if you would like. 522 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,280 » No. >> No, okay. 523 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:34,120 Okay, so we're we're good with the grant update. The update was what we're 524 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:38,920 thinking about at. Okay. Moving on to Sunbury Sizzlin' Sounds, which if you've 525 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:42,720 looked at your agenda, they are coming tonight. So probably not a ton we need 526 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:46,800 to get into because they're going to talk at council, but it's just probably 527 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,800 like a 528 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:52,240 It's on our matrix, I suppose. This is just to bring it to the 529 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:55,680 » parks meeting, but we'll hear more from Civic themselves this evening. 530 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,760 » And you can ask your questions then if you have any. 531 00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:03,920 » Yep. >> Okay, we have a monthly park update. 532 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:06,800 And so that your sizzle stuff is in here as well. 533 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:10,200 But then it looks like the park update starts on page 37. 534 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:17,920 Melissa, is this you? >> Yes, I will get the slides pulled up. 535 00:40:55,000 --> 00:41:02,160 Okay, so Freedom Park. So, I was out there earlier back in July and I noticed 536 00:40:59,720 --> 00:41:07,200 there were new bridges. Not sure if you put them out there 537 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:12,120 or where they came from, but there's yeah, a nice new bridge and new walking 538 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:17,000 path type thing, so that is all up Freedom Park. You can go 539 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,000 to the next one. 540 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:22,400 Now we have the J.R. Smith Park updates. >> Those bridges you're you're referring to 541 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:27,800 the disc golf or >> Yes. Yeah, the disc golf course. 542 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:36,120 Okay, so J.R. Smith Park is moving along. If you were along um State Route 543 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:38,680 uh 37 last week, uh they were moving fill 544 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:45,600 um offsite. We ended up with just over 100 545 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:50,120 truck loads. About 12 cubic yards per per truck uh coming in, so it was 546 00:41:49,333 --> 00:41:55,240 » [gasps] >> it was quite the race, but we also had 547 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:59,080 our public works team um moved dirt from the wastewater treatment 548 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:05,920 plant uh because we are removing um 549 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:11,240 a lot of excavation material for the clarifier installation down there. 550 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:15,920 Um it's a 70-ft diameter um 551 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:21,000 clarifier that's about 20 ft deep. So, it's a massive hole. We have a lot of 552 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:24,640 excess dirt that the plan is to just mound it between the wastewater 553 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:29,760 treatment plant and the middle school. Um, so, our our team moved 40 truck 554 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:33,960 loads. Um, they're slightly smaller trucks than some of the offsite loads, 555 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:40,880 but we were happy that, um, that they were able to contribute and and help 556 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:46,160 with this process. Um, about half of the 100 came from our wastewater treatment 557 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:51,040 plant as well. So, we were able to, uh, negotiate a a a 558 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:55,800 lower fee because they were able to get dirt at a much closer location. But, 559 00:42:53,920 --> 00:43:02,000 they still had to pay the hauling company and, uh, load, uh, the material 560 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:05,960 themselves. So, really happy that our contractor, Simonsen, and of course, um, 561 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:10,760 our members of the wastewater treatment plant were very welcoming, uh, so that 562 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:15,720 we could coordinate, um, and benefit the city and save a little bit of money. 563 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:21,480 Um, status of the park. Um, with all that 564 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:26,960 dirt, we are able to, uh, really start to look for some vertical, uh, 565 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:30,960 components. If you go out there today, you will see, um, pipes that are coming 566 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:38,160 up from the ground where the splash pad is going to be. Splash pad, um, provider 567 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:42,920 has been out, um, getting ready to, um, get that installed. I don't know if it's 568 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:45,960 being poured later this week or next, uh, but I'm going to try and, uh, find 569 00:43:44,720 --> 00:43:49,760 out and uh, hopefully bring some pictures for 570 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:54,360 that component. Uh, same with the shelter house as well. They've worked on 571 00:43:51,720 --> 00:43:59,200 the underground connections, uh, so we should be seeing some some vertical 572 00:43:56,720 --> 00:44:00,800 movement there as well. And 573 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:06,920 » substantial completion >> Uh, and, uh, timeline for the park is 574 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:10,120 still looking at October, uh, with the caveat that they'll have some internal 575 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,760 components at the shelter house to complete. 576 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,320 Some 577 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:22,200 Reservoir Park, um the sign will be installed tomorrow. 578 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:25,000 So, we'll get pictures of that once it's completed. 579 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:30,480 Uh Sunbury Memorial Park >> a question about the Reservoir Park. Is 580 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:36,280 there I assume no. Any easy way to maintain 581 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:41,240 the paths that are around the reservoirs, the 582 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:44,400 walking paths, because some of them are They're just so cracked. 583 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:49,040 » Okay. >> And we haven't had them for that long, 584 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:53,080 but I don't know if that material just cracks easily. 585 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:58,080 If there would be any point in repairing them, would they just crack again? 586 00:44:55,480 --> 00:45:03,080 They're close to water. There's lots of animals up there, birds, so I don't 587 00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:07,560 know, but some of them are They're It's pretty unsightly. So, how pretty the 588 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:11,200 area is to walk on it is. >> Yeah, I I know we discussed whether or 589 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:16,240 not we could put some rejuvenator down on some of the paths in the city. 590 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:23,720 Um it's something that I can have um the manufacturer for that um that fill, that 591 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:27,680 uh black surface resurfacing agent, uh come and give a quote and also assess 592 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:34,920 whether or not it makes sense. Um often times you uh use a rejuvenator on um 593 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:39,560 you know, a surface that's maybe 2 >> 3 years old? 594 00:45:36,240 --> 00:45:44,640 » Yeah. Um but it it's certainly something that with a surface that isn't being um 595 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:48,880 as heavily traveled as a road, we may be able to uh utilize that as a a way to 596 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:52,120 » Yeah, I'm just saying some of the areas they look brand new, 597 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:57,200 and then some of So, I don't know if people are walking on one side I mean, 598 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:59,720 you have to get around. I don't know. I don't know what it is, but some of the 599 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:03,360 areas are pretty bad. >> Okay. 600 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,360 » Some are beautiful. 601 00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:08,640 Okay, thank you. >> That's worth doing. I will say I know 602 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:12,320 last year when I talked to Jake a little bit about this, we 603 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:17,320 this and the other trails, I think we did go out and do some crack repair work 604 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:21,560 on the other trails, but we didn't do it on this particular one and I don't 605 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:25,240 really know why. So, we'll we'll follow up with Jake to see if maybe he thought 606 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:29,560 it maybe he just didn't get to it and we'll try to get to it this year, but I 607 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:32,120 do like the idea of some kind of a um 608 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:35,240 you know, rejuvenator or something to help preserve the asset. 609 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:37,560 » Yeah. That looks pretty good. And I don't know if you guys have been down 610 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:42,240 there during the day or in the evening, but that 611 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:46,240 floating dock is getting a lot of use. Our my kids, their friends, 612 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:49,320 sometimes they don't like going down there cuz there's too many people on it. 613 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:51,520 So, it's definitely getting >> That's good. 614 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:56,640 » It's used, yeah. And I was walking, obviously, on the 615 00:46:53,480 --> 00:47:00,160 path and I saw a kid, I don't know, 16, 17 years old and he pulled out a fish 616 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:03,440 and it was it was like I mean, I could see it from 617 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:06,960 up where I was and it was really impressive. They're having a lot of fun 618 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:09,760 down there. Yeah. 619 00:47:11,240 --> 00:47:18,920 » Okay, Sunbury Memorial Park, at the Events Committee, we discussed 620 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:22,280 the Unmarked and Unforgotten Memorial being moved into the cemetery. 621 00:47:21,240 --> 00:47:25,240 » I think we're talking about Are we talking about that tonight, too? 622 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,560 » Yeah, it's on the agenda. Yep. 623 00:47:27,720 --> 00:47:31,960 » And then we also talked about 624 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:35,480 » Have you talked any more about that little building? 625 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,680 » I don't remember which committee we were in when we talked about that. 626 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,480 But this was >> This one. Yeah, it's probably going to 627 00:47:39,240 --> 00:47:42,880 be this committee. Um 628 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:48,240 we haven't talked a lot more about it. I I think other than again, I 629 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:51,160 I don't think that the recommendation is to save the building. I think the 630 00:47:49,720 --> 00:47:55,560 recommendation is to take the building down, preserve the marble, you know, for 631 00:47:53,920 --> 00:48:00,480 maybe some other use in the future. We just haven't I think executed on that. 632 00:47:58,240 --> 00:48:03,600 » Okay, I was just curious. Now I see the building every time we go by. I never 633 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,560 noticed it before, but >> Yeah. 634 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,760 » Okay. >> So, we probably I just we needed have 635 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,320 Jake prioritize that a little bit more. I 636 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:14,280 think he would like to get that building down. I mean, it's 637 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:17,360 it's a little bit of a risk. I mean, there's some risk 638 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:21,120 associated with it cuz the when we had the structural 639 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:23,640 » I I had a question. Yeah, the structural evaluation team. 640 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:27,640 » Last year, they were they were saying that the the marble is starting to pull 641 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:32,080 away from the brick a little bit. That's so again, we want to try to not only And 642 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:36,400 we don't keep anything in the building. Yeah, so we've got that back building. 643 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:39,720 We did originally. It used to be where they would store the mowers and any any 644 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,880 equipment they had to maintain the cemetery. 645 00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:44,600 » Okay. >> But, yeah, whatever they've got now, 646 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:47,320 they've moved to that back building. >> Okay, thank you. 647 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:57,200 Um we also had uh three burials for this month. 648 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:57,200 Um for Town Square, 649 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:07,800 uh Town Square, we had the second Saturday market, the Young Makers and 650 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:11,480 Family Market. Although it rained, they did have a great turnout, so it was 651 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:15,600 great to see all those people come out and support them. 652 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:22,720 Um on our historical marker sign, there is a crack on it. Um so, Jake is working 653 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:26,680 on getting that fixed. And then the 4th of July parade, um 654 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:30,200 well, it wasn't actually on the square, just figured I'd include that. It was a 655 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:35,160 great turnout. I actually believe it was the largest parade that we've had so 656 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:37,680 far. So, Um 657 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,840 » These are participants, or >> Yeah, like 658 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,880 » Cool. >> Number of 659 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,840 floats, or entries? >> Floats, floats. 660 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:52,480 And then we know that said, so Uh we had a couple of service days in 661 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:59,760 July. Um the first one is City North Church. 662 00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:04,160 They were on Sunday, July 12th, and they cleaned the waterway at the cemetery. Um 663 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:10,440 they also cleaned some headstones, and then they also painted the bridges at 664 00:50:07,720 --> 00:50:15,280 the Fallen Heroes Memorial and the bridge that the Eagle Scout built at the 665 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:20,080 Kessel Disc Golf Course. And then we had Bright City Church on 666 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:24,280 Saturday, July 18th. They did the mall trains around the um around the square, 667 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,760 so. I didn't have any pictures for the 668 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:31,160 service day, so >> You put a picture of yourself in there. 669 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:33,760 » And some more. 4th of July. >> Who is 670 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,600 » And the mayor's son. >> Who is 671 00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:39,360 that? Leland? >> Yeah, so. 672 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:42,800 » I'm going to fill in the blank space. >> Yeah, so we appreciate that the service 673 00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:45,640 team was able to increase the size of the tree rings. I know that has been a 674 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,440 topic for some time. >> Yeah, and Aaron said he wanted to know 675 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:51,800 that. >> Yeah, Aaron said before he left uh how 676 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:55,200 much he liked seeing the tree rings out there. The other thing I would note 677 00:50:53,320 --> 00:51:00,920 that's not on here, Bright City Church was going to begin to paint some of the 678 00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:05,040 bases of the uh poles. You probably They've They've gotten beat up over time 679 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:09,280 with just mowing, trimming, you know, whatever kind of happens around it. I am 680 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:14,920 pleased to say that the service team started painting some of the bases. And 681 00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:20,480 if you look up here on the Cherry Street um going toward the the 90° turn there 682 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:23,360 on the right-hand side, they started to paint those. They look 683 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:26,280 » You mean that like the curb? >> Oh no, no, not the curb. So they did 684 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:30,320 some curb painting, but but I'm talking about the the light poles and the 685 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:34,800 decorative light poles. Uh actually, some of them even I guess have the They 686 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:38,520 also are the signal poles as well. Just the lower level of the lower portion of 687 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:43,440 it. You'll note that there's kind of this I don't know. 688 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:46,680 What am I trying to say? It's like a I don't know. 689 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:49,440 It's a cover over the base of the >> And they're painting them. 690 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:52,240 » They are painting them and they they've been beat up and looked pretty bad for 691 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:55,040 some time. So, they're going to work their way all the 692 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:58,200 way up Cherry Street. They'll get to some of those that are out, you know, 693 00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:00,640 further to the west, but but they've started out down here. So, you need to 694 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,640 look at those. >> too, so. 695 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,640 » Yeah. 696 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,640 I like 697 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:13,960 » Um for our monthly tree update, so for tree pruning, 698 00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:17,840 they pruned 65 littleleaf linden trees along Woodchuck and Fairland. 699 00:52:16,240 --> 00:52:21,640 So, there's some nice before and after pictures. 700 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:27,560 And then our our streets department I don't know if Aaron did. 701 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:31,640 Aaron and streets. I think it was Aaron. Um 702 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:35,600 and then some other forestry updates, they did mulch 703 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:40,360 some tree rings around the trees at Evening Street and along West Granville 704 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:43,720 Street. They also planted six new arborvitaes at the Columbus Street 705 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:48,920 parking lot. Um we have some potential tree removals 706 00:52:47,240 --> 00:52:53,240 on Saffron, in North Vernon Street, and then also 707 00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:58,040 over at Old Church Park. So, those will be evaluated soon. 708 00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:01,960 And then Jake is also reviewing the nursery for the large caliper trees for 709 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:05,960 the square. So, we're hoping to get something for 710 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:08,600 planting in the fall. So. 711 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:12,240 And that >> Okay, so you remember that dates back to 712 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:17,280 when we took the tree down earlier this year, commitment to put larger trees in. 713 00:53:14,240 --> 00:53:20,160 So, they are yeah, looking for as large as trees as they can get to get in the 714 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:25,800 space. I think they've identified the species, they're just trying to find the 715 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,800 trees themselves. So. 716 00:53:26,261 --> 00:53:30,280 » [laughter] >> Anything else from staff? 717 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:34,480 » That is all the updates I had. >> Anything from the committee? 718 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:37,200 I'm looking for a motion to adjourn. >> I'll motion. 719 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:39,160 » Thank you. >> I'll second. 720 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,800 » Thank you. Roll call, please. 721 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,400 Uh Mr. Long? >> Yes. 722 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,720 » Mrs. Crawford? >> Yes. 723 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:48,360 » Mrs. Cooper? >> Yes. 724 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:51,080 » Three years meeting adjourned.