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I will hereby call to order this

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regularly scheduled meeting of the

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Sunderland Select Board and Finance

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Committee. The time is 6:32 p.m. Would

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you like to call your board to order

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also?

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>> This is the um Monday meeting of July um

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February 20.

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>> What day is it? February 9th. Thank you.

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Of the Sunland Finance Committee.

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>> Does feel like February feel like you're

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not wrong.

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>> January 45th.

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>> All righty. Uh thank you very much. are

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we're going to skip over approving

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minutes um and go straight to new

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business. Our first order of new

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business is going to be to review the

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library budget. So, thank you very much

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for coming in um and go ahead and

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let us know what you got.

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>> Great. Thank you so much for having us.

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So, I'm Katherine. I'm the library

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director here. Um our request this year

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is fairly similar to past years. Um the

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main area where we're um requesting an

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increase is in our library expense line.

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um that is the line that we use to be um

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part of the CWM consortium and then um

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also is what we use to purchase library

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materials. Um and so we've kept the

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formula the same where we're asking for

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exactly what we need in order to meet

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the materials expenditure requirements

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set by the Massachusetts Board of

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Library Commissioners. Um and so the

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amount that we spend to be part of the

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CW Mars consortium um that the funds

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that are needed to make up the materials

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expenditure requirement the fund the

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Sunderland Public Library can provide

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for us. So um we're asking for an

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increase in that mostly just to to make

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sure that we can meet the materials

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expenditure requirement. Also materials

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are a lot more expensive these days than

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they used to be. um changing needs make

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it even more challenging. Um it's very

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difficult to get. Um ebooks are quite

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expensive. We were very lucky that we've

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got some folks at the state house who

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are working to ensure that equity for

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libraries and purchasing ebooks um goes

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through because right now we pay about

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three times the cost for an ebook as we

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do for a print book and the usage is

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limited to two years or 20 uses

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something like that. um whereas a

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library book can be in your collection

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for ever as long as it's you know

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wellmaintained. Um we're also

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experiencing huge issues with our

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suppliers. Um one of the main book

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suppliers that we used to purchase

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materials and that gave us wonderful

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discounts um went out of business. Um so

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everyone's been scrambling to find new

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sources to get their books and the

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sources that are already functioning are

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inundated with new customers. So, um,

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you know, we're waiting months to get

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new books where we used to have them

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well before the publication date. So,

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we're keeping up with it all. Um, we're

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certainly, you know, meeting the

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material expenditure requirement. It's

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just a lot more difficult. We're also

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spending more because we don't get those

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great discounts anymore. So, we're

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spending a lot more for less. Um, so

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anything the town can do to kind of

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supplement that, allow us to continue to

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um, offer materials that our patrons

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need, but also allow us to um, maintain

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our state certification is really

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crucial for us. The other main area

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where we're asking for um, an increase

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is in the library support wages. I know

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that the personnel committee will um,

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will be making their recommendations in

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terms of what cost of living increases

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and other wages increases should be. So,

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I did not include that, but we are

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asking for an additional $8,000

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um in that line to fund um our sensory

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friendly hours. And so, that funding is

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exclusively for a staff member, a

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non-bened staff member who would have

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seven hours of regular um time. And that

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allows us to open the library for an

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extra day for um every year on

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Thursdays. And so we received a grant

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last year um we're very lucky for is the

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libraries transforming communities grant

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um from the American Library Association

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and that has funded um our ability to

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open up on Thursdays and that um that

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grant goes through April 30th. Um and

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it's been a huge success opening for

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sensory friendly hours. Um we're seeing

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you know probably about 90 people per

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day. Our average on a day where we're

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also open seven hours is about 120. Um,

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and it's steadily increasing. Um, you

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know, besides dips here and there for

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the weather being cold. But, um, people

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love it. Um, I have had very, very few

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complaints about it. We've been doing a

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survey to the town. 100% of survey

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respondents say, "Yes, please keep these

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hours. They're so important to us." Um,

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sensory friendly hours. We we call it

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same library enhance accessibility. I

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mean, everything that you love about the

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library for the most part is the same.

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It's just the environment is slightly

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different. So, our lights are lowered.

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programs and other stuff to kind of

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limit activity. And we also have

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designated quiet areas as well as

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designated active areas. Um, so this

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really allows a lot of flexibility for

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folks. um does not matter what your

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neurotype is to to come in the library

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and just experience a slightly different

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environment than what we normally offer.

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active and noisy. It's, you know, one of

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the best things. You don't want to have

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a a quiet silent library anymore. But

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we're also finding that people are

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seeking the library as a space where

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they can have quiet time to study. Um, a

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lot of people are working from home and

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such and sometimes the home environment

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is not as calm and quiet as you need it

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to be. Um, we're seeing a lot of

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students who will come for a place to

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study. We see a lot of people who work

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from home or working, you know, remote,

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hybrid, however, um, are coming into the

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library for a space where they can get

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some work done. And we're finding a lot

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of them love coming on the Thursday

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hours just because it's slightly

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quieter. Um, and they're just happy to

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have an extra day. Um, anytime we do a

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survey to the community, what do you

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want to see from your library? Everyone

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says more hours. Um, more morning hours

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in particular. So, opening up on a

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Thursday really allows us to to meet

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those needs of providing more hours. Um,

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providing more morning hours, also

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providing after school, evening hours a

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little bit, um, for folks who, you know,

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do attend school or have work and things

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like that. Um, but really, um, it's just

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providing that flexibility for folks to

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be like, "Okay, I know I can go to the

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library on this day. It's going to be

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calmer. I'm going to be able to sit down

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and focus or I'm going to be able to go

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to the library on Thursday. I'm not

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going to have to worry about staff and

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patrons and other people not necessarily

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understanding my behaviors and why I may

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present in a way that is different from

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what folks expect." Um, I think that's

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really been the most meaningful thing is

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just hearing from patrons how important

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and meaningful it is to just to have

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these hours. Not necessarily being able

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to go to them, but just knowing that

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there is a place in Sunderland in our

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community where um, you know, neurode

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divergent people are recognized and are

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appreciated and are invited to be

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themselves and to grow just like

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everyone else is in the library. So very

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meaningful hours for me.

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Well, thank you very much and I hope you

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remember when you came in and talked to

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us last year. Um, we committed to try

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doing our best to maintain that once you

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guys's grant has has passed. So, um, I I

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also think it's a wonderful thing. I've

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gotten feedback myself from families in

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town who've used the hours. U, my own

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kids have gone there during those hours

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and and appreciated it. Um, my daughter

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wears know she's canceling headphones

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everywhere she goes for very obvious

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reasons. Um, and so I appreciate I

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appreciate what it means to the town and

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what it means to the patrons who

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patronize it. So, thank you very much.

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Um, now is this this is the these are

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the two line items here just for people

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who are in person or on Zoom. Um, thank

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you Becky for sharing the sharing the

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budget. Um, so we're talking about the

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support wages here for an increase of

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6,846 or a 5.46%

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increase. That's the line for the the

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Thursday hours. Um and this second one

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that's just the overall expenses

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increasing because of the cost of

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everything.

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Wonderful.

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>> Maintaining our certification is always

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the priority. We are required to spend a

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certain amount of money on materials.

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>> Crystal Dan, any questions on what we've

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seen so far?

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employees are there?

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employees. um this we and then we have

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the grant funded um additional so it

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would bring us up to five um which is

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really beneficial for us to have another

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part-time employee who's not necessarily

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benefited but gives us that flexibility

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to call someone else in when we need

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extra support when someone is out sick

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just having another set of hands is

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hugely important and beneficial for us

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so um it's just such a small cost for

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the town I know money is tight for

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everyone but it's really not it's you

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about $8,000, $6,000 that we're asking

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for here. And the benefits are huge. I

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mean, it's another 364 hours of library

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service that we're able to offer. It's

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um creating a reputation of

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accessibility in our community. I mean,

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there's so many benefits to it for

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$8,000.

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>> Nice. Wonderful. Uh finance committee,

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any questions on the budget estimate so

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>> sure can.

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>> Yeah. So, no, I love the library. Our

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kids love the library. I'm glad you're

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doing the Thursday um quiet hours. It's

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really a great program. Um just two

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quick questions. So, with Heather

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leaving and then we re we hired someone

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to replace her, was that is that equal

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salary or was that person less

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experienced? Do we make up any money

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money there. um just because this is a

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new person coming in um and Heather had

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worked with us for 5 years. So slightly

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less um in the terms of the salary but I

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kept it at a level where Heather would

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have started had she been starting this

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year. So in terms of inflation and

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things like that.

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>> Okay. Yeah. Keep it comp.

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And the second one was the grant runs

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out in March. So we're taking we're

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going to So this is this amount that

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you're ask for would cover um a 12 month

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or a 9 month

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a 12 month is what we're asking for. Um

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right now the grant is it was for um for

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the you know the one-year period but we

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weren't able to start the sensory

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friendly hours. um we needed to do some

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research and things until July 1st made

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the most sense or July 10th made the

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most sense for us

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>> um to be able to start it. Um but so our

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plan right now is if I have the money

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left over in my salaries budget, I would

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love to stay open, but we're we're

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saying that we're going to take a break

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um you know in May and June until we can

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restart them in July when the funding

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comes through from the town.

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>> Right. And that's too I wish we could do

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something cuz especially June when they

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get out of school, those kids might want

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that quiet space on Thursday. So,

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>> I know, knock on wood, right now we're

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okay. And so, I always build in enough

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um you know, wiggle room in terms of

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salaries to cover any sick time and

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vacations that our employees are

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entitled to. So, not everyone's going to

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take all of their sick hours. I

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recognize that and you know, extra money

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would go back to the town. I'm hoping

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that there is enough of that left over

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that we can continue to operate at least

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on a a small level even if it's

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abbreviated hours or something for those

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two months. But um but yeah, I'm not

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widely advertising it because I can't

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promise it right now.

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>> Okay. All right. Thank you. Keep up the

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great work. It's a great place.

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>> Thank you, Joe. Question.

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>> Yeah. So, um, sorry, just one one more

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thing is that if we do know that they're

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going to be funded for next year, we

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would certainly do everything in our

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power to make sure that the consistency

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in the hours is is maintained. Um, you

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know, we wouldn't want to take a break

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and then have to restart everything all

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over again and readvertise and, you

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know, add that kind of confusion to the

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hours. Um, but again, it just depends on

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if we have the funding in there. And

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>> I'm sorry, when did you say that the

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current funding ends?

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>> April 30th.

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Okay. Sorry. So May June is

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what we're looking at.

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>> Yeah.

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>> All right.

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Any other questions from plants?

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>> I mean, I would just say like, you know,

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thank you for the presentation of the

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materials. You know, the the expanded

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hours for taking over the grant, you

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know, for me, you know, will compete

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with other new things we want to do,

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right? It's not really level services,

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but it seems like it has been working. I

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guess what I would say is if we do find

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a way to make that work, I would very

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much like to not have there be a pause

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for two months and then go back on. So

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like very much supportive of that. Um I

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had a couple other questions not related

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to that. One was I know we're not here

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to discuss capital in detail, but I know

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HVAC has been a a focus every year and I

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just inevitably know there were some

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issues more recently. Is there any

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update that we should be thinking of as

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we consider both capital as a whole and

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just the budget as a whole and the

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library as a whole?

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>> Yeah, the HBAC system is having a lot of

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problems right now, especially keeping

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up with the cold. Um, I came in this

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morning and it's 54 degrees in the whole

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children's room. I've got to set up

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space heaters, flipping the circuit

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breakers. Um, we have our HVAC folks on

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it. Um, but it takes a long time to

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schedule things, to get the parts, to

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figure out what the problem is within

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our extremely complicated system. Um, so

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far this year, I've spent, I think about

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$9,000

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on HVAC repairs. That includes um a

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single um a single compressor

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replacement in one of the more difficult

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spaces. So, that was a large part of it.

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um it wasn't a whole unit, but it was

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the main component of it. Um plus all

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these little repairs too coming in and

385
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just kind of figuring out what the

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problem is as well as the maintenance.

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Then we have it's going to be based on

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repairing. We've got I think it's a fan

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or a tube broken in another unit in the

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young adult room that is going to be a

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little more than $3,000. So we're

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getting to $11,000 that we've spent so

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far this year. And that's not even a

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full replacement. So what I have asked

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for in the capital is the replacement

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cost of a full unit, the most expensive

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unit that we would have to completely

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replace. Um however,

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I know there's a little bit of question

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about how the capital money is is going

401
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to be carried over from year to year. Is

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it going to be carried over? How that

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works? Um, it's really important for the

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library to have flexibility within the

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HBAC system because you have bad years

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where you're spending 20,000 plus on it

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and you have good years where you're

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spending maybe you know a couple

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thousand. So, um, I I would really like

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there to be I mean ideally $30,000

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available for library HBAC at any given

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time in case we have a horrible

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emergency. Um, but right now I know we

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um we just went back we had the um I

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believe we got 30,000 last year to kind

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of give us a little bit of wiggle room

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this year um after many years of not

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being sure what was carried over. Um I

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would hope that this year's could be

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carried over but if not if we can have

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you know

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>> but that's in the capital budget.

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>> Yeah, in the capital budget. Yes. I'm

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also on capital because we do try to um

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>> we do try to kind of leave I mean it's

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just going to what do we have 16 air

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handlers?

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>> Yeah. 16

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>> you know it's just going to be it's a

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20some year old system. There's just

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constant

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>> one every year and then you start over.

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>> Yeah. Yeah. So it's not you know it's

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never going to be it's never going to be

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at 100%.

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>> Okay. Thanks. And sorry, I didn't mean

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to get too deep into capital, but I just

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I wanted to make sure I understood where

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we were. So, thank you for that. One

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last question, and this is I guess I'm

441
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just thinking about

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if and how do you anticipate um the

443
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Deerfield Library coming online

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impacting in any positive, negative,

445
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whatever usage of the Sun Library? You

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know, it's a big space coming online. I

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would expect there'd be some changes.

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So, if we're sitting here a year from

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now and we're looking at us in like what

450
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should we think about? What should we

451
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be? What should we

452
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>> Yeah, I mean um this past year was the

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busiest year in the library's history. A

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lot of that does have to do with Tilton

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being closed for a significant period of

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time as well as Ammerst being closed,

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moved to a secondary location. Um but I,

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you know, January after Tilton had

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reopened was our busiest January ever as

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well. Um, I don't see it necessarily

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slowing down in a significant way. It

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may not be quite as busy as, you know,

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this past year, but I think we are

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getting a lot of patrons coming to our

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library maybe for the first time and

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seeing, wow, there's something very

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different here than what we see in

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Tilton. And that I mean that's a good

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thing. What Tilton has is different from

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us in a wonderful way um necessarily.

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And that's the beauty of our library

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system is that there are 190 libraries

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in our consortium. Your library card

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works at any of them. you're entitled to

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library services at any of them. Um, and

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we do have a lot of library hoppers,

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which I think is fantastic. Um, but

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yeah, I think we've had a lot of

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comments from Tilted patrons who are

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being like, "I love this library. We're

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not going to stop coming here just

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because Tilton is open." So, um, I think

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it's been a good kind of marketing thing

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for us in a way. Um, and same thing when

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Hadley um, had their new building a

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several years ago. Um, it didn't take

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away many of our patrons. I we have a

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lot of patrons from Hadley who still

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come to Sunderland even though they have

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their beautiful new library there as

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well.

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>> Gota thank you.

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>> Any more questions from anyone on

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finance

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or

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>> I think I think I have a clarification

497
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question that that I just wanted to the

498
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way you said it and the way I understand

499
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it was slightly different. So I just

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want to make sure that

501
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>> everybody who's listening gets this. Um,

502
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when you talked about the expense

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category covering the MEA, you mean

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almost covering the ME. Okay.

505
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>> Yeah. Because it's we take our our CWMR

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construction payment out of that and

507
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then the friends of the library make up

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the remainder. Um, but being a part of

509
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CWRS is a huge part of our ability to be

510
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a a good successful library.

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>> But the CW Mars doesn't count as a play

512
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a little musical chair.

513
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>> So, it's just that Yeah, it's just um we

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have that money July 1st. that's when

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the CW Mars payment is due and it just

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makes the most sense for us um because

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we can fund raise for books and other

518
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things. We have more flexibility in

519
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terms of timing there, but the CW Mars

520
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payment we do need to pay right away in

521
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July first. We have the town money so

522
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you pay for it.

523
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>> I'm going to think two things that are

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one is that the ME is the state

525
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materials expenditure requirement. So

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there's a baseline number that we have

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to spend in order to maintain our

528
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certification. And the second is a call

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out a shout out to the friends of the

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library because we would not make that

531
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any the town is not the town budget does

532
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not provide the money to make that um

533
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for us to make that goal. So without the

534
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many of you get a letter in the in

535
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December um you know if without that

536
00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,520
honestly without that um the effort of

537
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,200
the friends of the library and that

538
00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,000
support um we would not be certified and

539
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,200
the board or the town would have to

540
00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:13,440
contribute more money. Absolutely. Yeah.

541
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,120
>> I have a question about any if if there

542
00:20:15,120 --> 00:20:16,640
were not a requirement and there was the

543
00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:17,919
same amount of money, would you still

544
00:20:17,919 --> 00:20:20,480
spend the same amount on materials or

545
00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,000
would you redirect that more towards

546
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,919
services or people or hours or anything

547
00:20:23,919 --> 00:20:26,880
else? Like how do you feel about how

548
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,679
your bud budget is aortioned due to the

549
00:20:29,679 --> 00:20:30,480
requirement?

550
00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,720
>> Yeah, I mean it's it's difficult to say.

551
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,039
Um, if I really had to sit down and

552
00:20:35,039 --> 00:20:37,039
think about how I would like to divvy it

553
00:20:37,039 --> 00:20:38,559
up, of course I would love to be able to

554
00:20:38,559 --> 00:20:41,120
offer sensory friendly hours and have,

555
00:20:41,120 --> 00:20:42,480
you know, full-time staff and all of

556
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,280
that. Um, however, we we always spend

557
00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,679
slightly more than the me. Um, and

558
00:20:47,679 --> 00:20:49,360
that's not necessarily because I'm like

559
00:20:49,360 --> 00:20:50,799
going up, oh, we got to meet the M, we

560
00:20:50,799 --> 00:20:52,400
got to meet the ME. It's because these

561
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,000
are the items that our patrons are

562
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,400
borrowing, are using, are requesting.

563
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,480
Um, and so I I think it would be about

564
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,039
the same no matter what. Um, one nice

565
00:21:01,039 --> 00:21:02,720
thing about the MER is that they do

566
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,840
allow us to use um, some of those um,

567
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,760
purchases of technology that is for

568
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,919
direct patrons to use can also be

569
00:21:09,919 --> 00:21:12,000
included in there. Um, which is

570
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,600
fantastic too. So if we need public

571
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,960
computers or something like that, we can spend that and that does count

572
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:18,400
towards the materials expenditure

573
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,240
requirement because that is seen as an

574
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:21,760
essential library service that we need

575
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,120
to be able to offer as well as

576
00:21:23,120 --> 00:21:25,120
technology. Do you want to ask that

577
00:21:25,120 --> 00:21:26,960
question to the probably five or six

578
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,360
library directors that I've worked with

579
00:21:29,360 --> 00:21:32,240
and they all would spend more if they

580
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:33,280
could

581
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:34,559
>> on materials? Yeah.

582
00:21:34,559 --> 00:21:35,600
>> Yeah. On materials.

583
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,520
>> Yeah. Yeah.

584
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,039
>> When the books are more expensive,

585
00:21:39,039 --> 00:21:39,520
right?

586
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,559
>> I know. I So, literally I I do an ebook

587
00:21:42,559 --> 00:21:45,520
order like once a month. I all I do is I

588
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,000
go through what items people have on

589
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,760
hold and if there's more than three I

590
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,520
purchase it and that's like and then I

591
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:52,880
still have to take some away because

592
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,320
it's like $900 $1,200 and I you know I

593
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,240
don't have that kind of money to spend

594
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,320
and it's just what people are requesting

595
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:01,919
to use.

596
00:22:01,919 --> 00:22:04,159
>> So the supplier the supply chain thing

597
00:22:04,159 --> 00:22:06,000
was for physical books though not

598
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:06,720
ebooks.

599
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,720
>> No, it's physical books, DVDs, audio

600
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,480
books, everything. So it's everything

601
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:18,230
physical. Yeah.

602
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:22,070
A lot of people are

603
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,360
we need to go back to books on tape

604
00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:24,720
because then they can't limit how often

605
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:25,919
you use them.

606
00:22:25,919 --> 00:22:29,679
>> Yeah. Well, that that's the benefit of checking out an actual book and

607
00:22:29,679 --> 00:22:30,880
>> Yeah. Then you have Yeah. You have to

608
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:31,760
know what a tape is.

609
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:32,159
>> Yeah.

610
00:22:32,159 --> 00:22:34,400
Or you have to have a CD player.

611
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,320
People don't have, you know, they don't

612
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:41,200
know. Well, that too, but like Yeah.

613
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,230
All

614
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:45,520
right.

615
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:45,840
>> Yeah.

616
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,280
>> I don't have a question, but I just like

617
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,840
to add a little bit on what Katherine

618
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,799
said in her very thorough presentation.

619
00:22:52,799 --> 00:22:55,360
As the person who's staffed the Century

620
00:22:55,360 --> 00:22:56,960
Friendly Hours on Thursday, I just want

621
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,880
to give you a little picture of what

622
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,320
it's like when people walk into the

623
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,320
library and experience this different

624
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,799
type of environment. We have a big sign

625
00:23:04,799 --> 00:23:06,880
by the front entrance explaining exactly

626
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,520
what sensory friendly hours mean. But

627
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,200
people tend to walk right by it. They

628
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,360
don't read it. They don't see it. They

629
00:23:13,360 --> 00:23:15,200
walk into the building and they say,

630
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,360
"Are you open? Are you having a power

631
00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:19,440
outage or something?" And then we

632
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,200
explain to them, "No, this is sensory

633
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,799
friendly. We're trying to make the

634
00:23:22,799 --> 00:23:24,880
library more welcoming to all sorts of

635
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,400
people, neurody divergent people, people

636
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,159
who have sensitivities to white and

637
00:23:28,159 --> 00:23:30,559
noise or whatever." And uh we want to

638
00:23:30,559 --> 00:23:32,720
make this space accessible to everybody.

639
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,880
And when they hear that, a big smile, a

640
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,960
big grin comes on their faces and they

641
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,320
say that's just wonderful. And that's

642
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,159
not because they themselves have these

643
00:23:44,159 --> 00:23:46,480
needs, but they just like the idea of

644
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,679
the library offering that experience.

645
00:23:49,679 --> 00:23:52,320
And uh that has been almost universal in

646
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,159
the reception that we've gotten during

647
00:23:54,159 --> 00:23:58,950
Thursday hours.

648
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,159
» Thank you for that feedback. I mean, and

649
00:24:00,159 --> 00:24:02,080
I I fully believe that when we make

650
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,320
spaces accessible to people with

651
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:05,440
disabilities, we make them more

652
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:06,880
accessible to everybody and we just

653
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,280
improve like for everybody in ways that

654
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,760
we may not even realize for extended

655
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,840
period of time. So, it's it's a

656
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,919
wonderful thing and and I'm fully in

657
00:24:15,919 --> 00:24:17,600
supportive of having those hours

658
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,400
available. Any last comments before we

659
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:21,200
move on?

660
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,520
>> I just wanted to just double down on

661
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,200
this. This will change because it

662
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,679
doesn't have the personnel committee

663
00:24:27,679 --> 00:24:31,679
recommended increases. Exactly. Yeah. Um

664
00:24:31,679 --> 00:24:33,360
>> which is typical that we

665
00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:34,559
>> that's what we asked for. So I just

666
00:24:34,559 --> 00:24:35,200
wanted to

667
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,960
>> Yeah, that was at at your request.

668
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,480
>> Y

669
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,640
>> So hopefully you'll have a raise.

670
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,240
>> We'll see.

671
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,760
And also just for for um

672
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,520
for clarification, the request this year

673
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,400
to the capital is for $37,000

674
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,480
for the for the ongoing maintenance of

675
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:52,880
the

676
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,440
>> um No, the capital request for the HBAC

677
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,799
is um $18,500 and that is for the cost

678
00:24:58,799 --> 00:25:02,400
of one unit. Um last year it was I think

679
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,480
about 35,000 was what we received

680
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,799
because we didn't have any funds carry

681
00:25:06,799 --> 00:25:08,559
over from previous years. there.

682
00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:11,440
>> So 8050 gets you up to that 30 30,000.

683
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:12,799
>> Exactly. That's where that's where we

684
00:25:12,799 --> 00:25:15,120
want to be in case of a horribly rainy

685
00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:15,440
day

686
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,360
>> and we are meeting on Thursday to

687
00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:19,679
discuss the capital budget. So we will

688
00:25:19,679 --> 00:25:19,840
have

689
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,760
>> more then. Okay. Perfect. Thank you for

690
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,600
that clarification.

691
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,200
>> All right. Uh Becky, anything from you

692
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,400
while we are on library?

693
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,549
Um,

694
00:25:32,559 --> 00:25:35,200
we did find some pockets of money last

695
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,279
year um that that were used for the

696
00:25:39,279 --> 00:25:43,600
capital item, the um mini splits. Um but

697
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,440
um like she said, I think I think this

698
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,760
is a good plan because it the different

699
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,240
pots have um there's still a couple

700
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:54,400
small pots left, but um for it to be a

701
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,200
comfort level, um I think her plan is

702
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:58,480
good.

703
00:25:58,480 --> 00:25:59,679
>> Okay, great.

704
00:25:59,679 --> 00:26:01,039
>> Yeah, I just don't want to have to call

705
00:26:01,039 --> 00:26:03,039
a special meeting because our heat is

706
00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:05,200
out, you know. No, I would I would love

707
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,240
to find a a way of making it just

708
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,799
simpler all around and more available to

709
00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:12,880
you without having to put like a whole

710
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,400
pile of money over there just in case.

711
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:15,840
You know, it'd be great if we had some

712
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,120
mechanism for that. But if I find one

713
00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:21,360
>> um Nathaniel,

714
00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:22,320
>> yes,

715
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,440
>> Nathaniel, um to follow up on that

716
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,960
suggestion, if that money was put in the

717
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,799
final instead, it would

718
00:26:32,799 --> 00:26:35,919
it doesn't matter. It doesn't it it

719
00:26:35,919 --> 00:26:39,760
would help but it doesn't give them the

720
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,840
carryover to the next year and it

721
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,720
doesn't give them the immediiacy to to

722
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,960
get the repairs done because they'd have

723
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,360
to wait for a meeting. But it could give

724
00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:52,400
it give them access without having to

725
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,000
budget as much.

726
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:54,400
>> Okay.

727
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,279
>> If the finance committee um were to

728
00:26:57,279 --> 00:26:58,559
consider that.

729
00:26:58,559 --> 00:27:00,159
>> Yeah. I mean, we're happy to do what

730
00:27:00,159 --> 00:27:02,400
whatever works for the town as long as

731
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,799
we can maintain our our HV.

732
00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:06,320
>> We we will discuss options and

733
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,520
>> otherwise we're going to meet in the

734
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,559
cold library to try to get heat. This is

735
00:27:10,559 --> 00:27:12,400
my uniform now.

736
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,919
>> If we come up with a better option, what

737
00:27:13,919 --> 00:27:16,000
we have does work, so we will we will

738
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,279
keep doing that if we don't come up with

739
00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:18,400
a better option. But cool, we'll

740
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,480
probably find possibly. All right. Um,

741
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:21,679
any last thing?

742
00:27:21,679 --> 00:27:23,679
>> Burn the used books.

743
00:27:23,679 --> 00:27:24,080
>> Well,

744
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,000
>> just kidding.

745
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,559
>> Well, couple connotations there. Um, We

746
00:27:28,559 --> 00:27:32,320
need an official licensed legal book

747
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:32,960
burner.

748
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,360
>> I mean, we do have the fire chief here.

749
00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:40,240
>> I don't think there's enough

750
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:40,960
to

751
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,320
>> do much.

752
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:43,840
>> All righty. Um, any last questions for

753
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,120
library while we're on the subject?

754
00:27:47,120 --> 00:27:48,559
>> Thank you so much for coming in. We

755
00:27:48,559 --> 00:27:49,760
appreciate everything you do. Our

756
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,679
library is an absolute gem and we love

757
00:27:51,679 --> 00:27:52,720
it. So, thank you.

758
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,880
>> Thank you.

759
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,960
All right,

760
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,760
moving on to our next guest and that

761
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,240
would be Chief Benjamin with our fire

762
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:02,960
department. Hey

763
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:03,360
>> everybody,

764
00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:05,039
>> thank you for being here.

765
00:28:05,039 --> 00:28:07,919
>> Happy to be here. Thanks for having me.

766
00:28:07,919 --> 00:28:08,559
>> Absolutely.

767
00:28:08,559 --> 00:28:10,559
>> I just realized I don't have the public

768
00:28:10,559 --> 00:28:13,679
safety complex spreadsheet in my packet.

769
00:28:13,679 --> 00:28:16,640
So, um, if we could put that up on the

770
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,960
board eventually, that would be helpful.

771
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,919
doesn't have to be right now, but um I

772
00:28:21,919 --> 00:28:24,399
don't have it to refer to and explain.

773
00:28:24,399 --> 00:28:27,279
Um but what I will do, we can certainly

774
00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:28,320
>> um

775
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:28,880
>> go ahead,

776
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,799
>> Steve. Could it be in what you submitted

777
00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:31,440
to me?

778
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,120
>> Oh, yes. It would be in there. I just

779
00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:35,679
don't have it printed.

780
00:28:35,679 --> 00:28:37,840
>> I can put it up on the screen though.

781
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:38,159
>> Okay,

782
00:28:38,159 --> 00:28:40,320
>> that'd be great. Thank you.

783
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:41,760
>> Yeah, if you'll just let me know when

784
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,200
you're in that section.

785
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,200
>> Okay, we can do that last.

786
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,799
>> And Becky, do we all have copies of

787
00:28:46,799 --> 00:28:48,480
this? It was in a different email than

788
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:48,880
the

789
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,840
>> It's there's tabs.

790
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,520
>> I did that for expediency.

791
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,440
>> You should know that it

792
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,200
>> there's tabs. Thank you.

793
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,640
>> No problem. Took me a minute.

794
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:03,200
>> Yeah.

795
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:03,520
>> Thank you.

796
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,360
>> It's in there. So, one thing.

797
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,720
>> One thing that I'll mention about the

798
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,159
fire department budget at the very

799
00:29:10,159 --> 00:29:12,240
bottom, it's got fire department expense

800
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,520
and then replacement equipment. Uh there

801
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,320
have always been two uh you might say

802
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,520
sub accounts for those two purposes. Um

803
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,279
we don't keep track of our spending that

804
00:29:23,279 --> 00:29:25,840
way. It's all in the total fire

805
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,200
department general expense line item.

806
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,520
>> So and it's funny over the years it's

807
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,520
sort of some years it's been broken out,

808
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:34,880
some years it hasn't been. So what I did

809
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,399
is I listed for the sake of um having it

810
00:29:38,399 --> 00:29:42,399
all there a small increase for uh fire

811
00:29:42,399 --> 00:29:44,880
department expense and then a larger

812
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,799
increase for replacement equipment which

813
00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:48,799
is really where most of our costs are.

814
00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:52,799
And at the bottom um that account is

815
00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:55,440
sort of the catchall for both. So it's

816
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:56,720
not three different accounts, it's

817
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,600
actually one broken out. Um everything

818
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,840
up above with the exception of fire

819
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,120
department wages um I did not put a

820
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,159
figure in so we could rely on uh

821
00:30:08,159 --> 00:30:10,559
personnel committee but I did want to

822
00:30:10,559 --> 00:30:12,320
put a request in for fire department

823
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,600
wages and that did um generate some good

824
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:16,799
conversation with the personnel

825
00:30:16,799 --> 00:30:19,600
committee about the hourly wages that

826
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,840
our firefighters are paid. And um right

827
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:28,480
now it sits at $17 an hour. And while

828
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,880
nobody's really in this for the money,

829
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,880
um it's been there for quite a while.

830
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,039
So, we're we're having conversations

831
00:30:35,039 --> 00:30:39,520
about a uh a larger, more graduated

832
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,880
increase for the firefighters. Um and

833
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,399
really over the last couple of years,

834
00:30:44,399 --> 00:30:46,480
the general increase in minimum wage and

835
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,840
some of the other um jobs in the area uh

836
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,360
has some of the firefighters saying,

837
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,559
"Hey, wait a minute. We're pretty well

838
00:30:54,559 --> 00:30:58,240
trained. got some some good skills yet,

839
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,399
you know, we've got a certain a certain

840
00:31:00,399 --> 00:31:03,039
wage. So, that's being handled. Um, not

841
00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:04,240
really much to talk about there.

842
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,600
Certainly, we'll entertain any questions

843
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,240
on that, but uh, principally the fire

844
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,880
department expense. We're finding uh,

845
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,720
like everybody else is more and more

846
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,159
costs when it comes to um, everything

847
00:31:16,159 --> 00:31:19,760
from fuel to batteries for the air packs

848
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,600
to our office supplies. And then for the

849
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,080
replacement equipment, I asked for that

850
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,559
larger figure um because over the years

851
00:31:28,559 --> 00:31:31,279
that has been uh has been bled out a

852
00:31:31,279 --> 00:31:34,559
little bit and what we're finding now

853
00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:38,080
with the uh the PAS free gear um the

854
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,440
poly floral alals are legislated to come

855
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,640
out of firefighting turnout gear and

856
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:45,919
that's a very good thing for

857
00:31:45,919 --> 00:31:48,480
firefighters uh because they are likely

858
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,960
a contributor to um uh occupational

859
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,679
related cancer. They're also a lot more

860
00:31:55,679 --> 00:31:58,799
expensive. Uh we we are trying a set of

861
00:31:58,799 --> 00:32:01,200
that gear with one of our lieutenants

862
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,080
who's notoriously hard on gear. Um he's

863
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,159
an instructor at the fire academy. Uh

864
00:32:06,159 --> 00:32:10,399
does not use our gear there, but um he's

865
00:32:10,399 --> 00:32:15,200
finding that it is uh acceptable. So,

866
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,080
um, talking with Deputy Zoli and my

867
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,480
officers now about switching all of our

868
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,320
gear over to PAS free gear. Um, it's

869
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,840
about another $1,500 a set. A set of

870
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,919
gear with boots, helmets, full ends,

871
00:32:29,919 --> 00:32:32,399
about $4,000. So, we're looking at about

872
00:32:32,399 --> 00:32:36,880
5,500 bucks. Um, in last year's money, I

873
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,799
haven't gotten a quote yet for 26. Um,

874
00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:43,120
and that combined with just about

875
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,600
everything else has gone up. Um, I went

876
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,360
and bought bar and chain oil and two

877
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,200
cycle oil for our small engines. It was

878
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,679
over 100 bucks. You know, could just

879
00:32:51,679 --> 00:32:54,080
carry that out with two hands uh from

880
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,360
the uh from the dealer. So, um, I've put

881
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,039
those requests up there and, uh, I guess

882
00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:03,279
we could go spreadsheet by spreadsheet.

883
00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:04,559
If there's any questions on this

884
00:33:04,559 --> 00:33:06,640
particular one, happy to entertain now.

885
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,240
>> A quick question. the the equipment line

886
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,880
one is increasing by the 5,000. Um the

887
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:11,840
replacement line.

888
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:12,240
>> Yes.

889
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,880
>> That's looks like that's been 21,000 for

890
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,080
the last couple years. Do you know if

891
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,559
it's been 21,000 for a bunch of years or

892
00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:20,159
did it change a couple years ago?

893
00:33:20,159 --> 00:33:22,080
>> It changed

894
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,840
I should know this. I should have the

895
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,679
paper with me. It changed about 3 years

896
00:33:25,679 --> 00:33:26,320
ago.

897
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:26,880
>> Okay.

898
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,159
>> It was reduced. Uh it was close to 30.

899
00:33:30,159 --> 00:33:31,679
>> Okay.

900
00:33:31,679 --> 00:33:34,240
>> For uh for a handful of years and then

901
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,519
>> that was that was my recollection is

902
00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:37,200
that we come down on that line.

903
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,480
So I just wanted that to be part of the

904
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:39,840
context we're talking about it because

905
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,600
this isn't so much an increase as it is

906
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,120
a rebalancing.

907
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,600
>> You might say that Nathaniel and what

908
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,799
happened was we certainly things have to

909
00:33:48,799 --> 00:33:51,760
balance and we used capital for turnout

910
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:52,799
here for a year.

911
00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:53,600
>> Mhm.

912
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,600
>> And that you know we're trying to

913
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,279
recover that position again.

914
00:33:57,279 --> 00:33:59,440
>> Okay.

915
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,279
Crystal you have any questions on that

916
00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:02,720
part?

917
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,399
>> Okay

918
00:34:04,399 --> 00:34:06,799
me. Is there a time when you need to

919
00:34:06,799 --> 00:34:09,200
have this one new PAS gear or is it as

920
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,280
you need new gear that you just have to

921
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,399
have this new kind?

922
00:34:12,399 --> 00:34:16,560
>> It's going to be um like all laws

923
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,280
there's a little bit of wiggle room, but

924
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,280
you know within three years we're going

925
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,040
to have to have PAS free gear. I I want

926
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,879
to switch over now.

927
00:34:26,879 --> 00:34:28,240
>> Yeah, I wouldn't be buying anything.

928
00:34:28,240 --> 00:34:31,280
>> And where do you want to go, Steve?

929
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,159
We're going to uh we're going to move to

930
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:38,480
uh PAS free turnout gear.

931
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,839
Um it's been legislated, but it's not

932
00:34:41,839 --> 00:34:44,079
something that we we have to do right

933
00:34:44,079 --> 00:34:46,800
now, but I'm choosing to provide the

934
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,119
officers want to go that route with the

935
00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:50,639
way that it fits. It's a the challenge

936
00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:53,440
is it's a different brand than the brand

937
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,599
that we have been using and everybody

938
00:34:55,599 --> 00:34:57,839
knows and is comfortable with. So,

939
00:34:57,839 --> 00:34:59,680
there's a little bit of a a curve to get

940
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:00,960
used to a different fit, different

941
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,800
pocket and clip locations, things like

942
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,920
that um to accommodate that that

943
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,320
technology. But,

944
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:09,520
>> and one of the things we want to also

945
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,839
avoid is waiting too long until we have

946
00:35:11,839 --> 00:35:14,720
to and then having to refit the entire

947
00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:16,800
>> well entire swaffle at once. I'd rather

948
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,720
start doing it now. And

949
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:22,720
>> and well, very true. and we're we are uh

950
00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:24,640
yolked into a scenario of 10-year

951
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,640
expiration for that turnout year. Um

952
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,320
that's

953
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,240
somewhat of an arbitrary number, but

954
00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:34,480
unfortunately that's in the NFPA

955
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,119
standard which is referenced in a lot of

956
00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:40,640
legislation. So, um, we do use older

957
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,520
gear for probationary members, members

958
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,960
that are not interior firefighters, but,

959
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,440
um, it's wise to keep everybody that

960
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,160
could be in harm's way in that that

961
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,599
current gear.

962
00:35:53,599 --> 00:35:55,839
>> Um, just so if anything, God forbid,

963
00:35:55,839 --> 00:35:58,480
does happen, we don't have that to uh to

964
00:35:58,480 --> 00:35:59,520
defend.

965
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,079
>> Y So, how many sets of gear will you be

966
00:36:02,079 --> 00:36:04,160
buying over how many years?

967
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,040
>> We try to buy two sets of gear a year.

968
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,359
>> Okay. And the the number of firefighters

969
00:36:09,359 --> 00:36:10,960
fluctuates. Right now we've got about

970
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,680
18. And I say about because we got one

971
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:14,880
that's on their way out and one that's

972
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,720
on their way in. But it works out kind

973
00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:18,400
of nice for the size of department that

974
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,640
we have. We got two sets of gear. Uh if

975
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,320
we have a little extra money, sometimes

976
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,240
we go for three. I'm trying to go for

977
00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:26,400
three this year. Uh just based on our

978
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,359
own allocations internally and um that

979
00:36:29,359 --> 00:36:31,040
usually works out really well.

980
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,359
>> Great. So let's say just throwing those

981
00:36:33,359 --> 00:36:35,280
out there that that legislation did give

982
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,760
us three years to be compliant. That

983
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:38,800
would mean that we'd be replacing

984
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,560
somewhere between six and nine of those

985
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,040
sets organically and then be looking at

986
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,119
the other half or so when that went into

987
00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:48,960
>> well and the the thing is it's it's

988
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,520
based on gear that you purchase. There's

989
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,320
no way that the entirety of the

990
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:55,839
Commonwealth could replace all of its

991
00:36:55,839 --> 00:36:56,560
gear

992
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,640
>> in a couple of years. But

993
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,359
>> we're trying to stay ahead of that. And

994
00:37:01,359 --> 00:37:05,119
it is specifically with uh with coats uh

995
00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:08,000
the hoods that we put on that seal

996
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,920
around the face piece. I mean that's

997
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,359
right up under your neck, your lymph

998
00:37:11,359 --> 00:37:14,000
nodes. Uh it's a very vulnerable spot.

999
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,440
So um we've for several years we've been

1000
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,960
toying with the non-past

1001
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,240
hoods. Um but now we're going to switch

1002
00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:26,480
the entire ensemble over. And just to be

1003
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,880
clear, all other conversation aside, if

1004
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,400
it's what's if it's if it's we shouldn't

1005
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:33,680
be talking about it, you don't mean like

1006
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:34,800
we should just be doing that because

1007
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,160
that's that's what's right for the for

1008
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:37,599
the male part of your community.

1009
00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:41,359
>> Absolutely. and the whole the whole um

1010
00:37:41,359 --> 00:37:42,960
firefighting

1011
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,000
um community business, however way you

1012
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,720
want to refer to it. Um it's always been

1013
00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:51,680
a little bit of a a a

1014
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,119
historically a cavalier organization

1015
00:37:55,119 --> 00:37:57,760
because you are actively seeking a

1016
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,839
hazardous environment.

1017
00:37:59,839 --> 00:38:02,240
But what what has

1018
00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:04,560
>> counterintuitive to run into a

1019
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,000
>> it's for for better for worse. But

1020
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,040
what's happened is um when we got our

1021
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,880
new fire truck several years back, right

1022
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,720
when CO broke out, we made the decision

1023
00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:16,960
that's going to be a clean cab truck.

1024
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,760
Meaning, if we go to a structure fire,

1025
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,079
everybody strips out of their turnout

1026
00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:24,160
gear, strips out of their street

1027
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,800
clothes, puts on spare clothes,

1028
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,560
sweatpants, scrubs that we have on the

1029
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,720
truck. All that gear goes either into

1030
00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:32,160
the back of my pickup truck or into our

1031
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,160
Humvey or something and is transported

1032
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,000
back to the station to be washed outside

1033
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,720
of the truck. So that truck when you're

1034
00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:41,440
in there um it still smells new which is

1035
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,520
great versus other departments trucks

1036
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:44,640
you go into and it smells like an

1037
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:45,920
ashtray

1038
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,760
>> because

1039
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,200
all of the gear and everything has the

1040
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,800
smoke in it. Those particulates are

1041
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:51,599
everywhere.

1042
00:38:51,599 --> 00:38:54,240
>> Um so we've really started to to ingrain

1043
00:38:54,240 --> 00:38:56,480
that into our culture

1044
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,160
and it's it seems to be working. There's

1045
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,640
a lot of um you know there's a lot of uh

1046
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,320
self-p policing with the other members

1047
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,000
and and it works really well.

1048
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,599
No, it's not it's not every day that you're given an opportunity to make

1049
00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:13,119
a good choice that 20 years from now

1050
00:39:13,119 --> 00:39:16,000
could be a bunch of sick

1051
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,200
>> firefighters, you know, like that.

1052
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,800
That's not something that there's so

1053
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,079
many times where we look back and go,

1054
00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:21,440
"Well, if only someone 20 years ago had

1055
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:22,720
made a different choice." Like, this is

1056
00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:24,800
one of those opportunities

1057
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:25,280
for a choice.

1058
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,440
>> It absolutely is. And you've got, you

1059
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,000
know, we've got a

1060
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,480
21-year-old firefighter. We've got

1061
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,000
another one that's um in the early 20s.

1062
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,359
You know, it's important to make sure

1063
00:39:37,359 --> 00:39:41,680
that we're um providing a good example.

1064
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,359
And it's not really a cliche. It is

1065
00:39:43,359 --> 00:39:45,119
true. The fires these days are a lot

1066
00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:46,800
dirtier than they used to be. You don't

1067
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,480
have just cotton and wood and everything

1068
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,040
else. Now you got plastic uh highly

1069
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,480
engineered materials that are also

1070
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,720
highly carcinogenic when they get

1071
00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:55,839
absorbed into your body.

1072
00:39:55,839 --> 00:39:58,160
>> Everything about every days.

1073
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,160
>> Let's not get started on that.

1074
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,440
>> That's a different meaning. Yeah, but

1075
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,320
it's a very good point. Um, the next one

1076
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,040
that I've got, so if if we're I don't

1077
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,280
want to jump if I

1078
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:12,800
>> question on this one. Just um there was

1079
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,400
a couple lines and I remember why we're

1080
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,040
running over in FY25. How are you

1081
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,320
looking on your budgets this year? You

1082
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:19,760
feeling good with where things are

1083
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,760
landing for FY26? I know there's still

1084
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:22,880
some time to go, but

1085
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,520
>> I I feel good about the expenditure

1086
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,119
side, the payroll side, it's a

1087
00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:30,160
crapshoot. It always is. Um, for better,

1088
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:31,839
for worse, we've had some fire watches

1089
00:40:31,839 --> 00:40:34,079
that we generate revenue from.

1090
00:40:34,079 --> 00:40:37,520
>> Um, the the payroll

1091
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,079
u firefighter pay is a wash that's a

1092
00:40:40,079 --> 00:40:42,240
pass through. However, we are able to

1093
00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:44,880
bill for the equipment that's used and

1094
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,800
that gives us a little bit of a cushion.

1095
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,800
So, um,

1096
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,480
>> can't really find any wood that's within

1097
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,240
reach, but as long as we have a normal

1098
00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:57,920
type year in terms of calls and, you

1099
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,880
know, going July to July, June, July,

1100
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:01,920
whatever is a little different than

1101
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,359
December to December, how well the

1102
00:41:03,359 --> 00:41:05,119
software calculates it, but we seem to

1103
00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:06,880
be in good shape now that we're halfway

1104
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,160
through a little bit more.

1105
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:08,880
>> Great. Thank you.

1106
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,800
>> Yeah.

1107
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,480
>> Any other questions from either board

1108
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,440
before we move on next part?

1109
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:16,240
All

1110
00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:16,720
right.

1111
00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:17,760
>> Okay.

1112
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:22,160
>> Um the uh the other protection tab

1113
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:28,480
that's down there um involves three specific line items. Two of the

1114
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,720
three are under my purview. Uh the civil

1115
00:41:30,720 --> 00:41:33,440
defense and the radio system.

1116
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,839
Um,

1117
00:41:35,839 --> 00:41:38,640
it's always hard to know what to ask for

1118
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,000
these uh because the civil defense is

1119
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,920
our reverse 911 system and they don't

1120
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:50,640
send us a new bill till like April. So,

1121
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,000
I have no idea what they're going to ask

1122
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,480
for this year. Um, and you ask them and

1123
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,119
they don't know. So, I asked for another

1124
00:41:57,119 --> 00:42:00,560
$200 um with that. And the same with the

1125
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,520
radio system. um the fees that covers

1126
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,319
both police and fire another $200.

1127
00:42:06,319 --> 00:42:09,040
Eventually, that expense is going to

1128
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:13,599
sunset. Um the radio system is a at the

1129
00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:15,280
chief's meetings, everybody groans when

1130
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:16,800
the radio system is brought up because

1131
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,880
it is uh it's a blessing that the

1132
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,599
Commonwealth brought us onto their uh

1133
00:42:21,599 --> 00:42:25,040
digital system, but it is um requiring

1134
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,440
an awful lot of finetuning specifically

1135
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,480
for paging. Um, the pagers that we wear

1136
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,079
now are absolutely horrendous. I mean,

1137
00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:35,200
this looks like something you'd see on

1138
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,079
the Dukes of Hazard in the 80s. Um, it's

1139
00:42:38,079 --> 00:42:40,079
really,

1140
00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:42,400
they work okay, but they're very bulky.

1141
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,079
We've had one get wrecked just cuz it

1142
00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:46,160
was so big, got slammed down the door.

1143
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:50,240
It's what happens. So, um,

1144
00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:52,720
the figure that's up there reflects the

1145
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:54,960
old analog system that's being

1146
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,280
maintained just because the new digital

1147
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:02,880
system is not completely covering the uh the county.

1148
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,880
So, those there isn't much wiggle room

1149
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,800
with those. Whatever the bill is, we'll

1150
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,599
submit, but fortunately, they're usually

1151
00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:12,720
not an awful lot larger. Uh, any

1152
00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:14,960
questions on that one from anybody? And

1153
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,480
just for you're saying that one of these

1154
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:17,839
line items is the old system and one of

1155
00:43:17,839 --> 00:43:18,880
them is the new system.

1156
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,359
>> The civil defense is our reverse 911

1157
00:43:21,359 --> 00:43:23,280
system. The code red the telephone

1158
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:23,680
system.

1159
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:24,240
>> Yeah. Yeah.

1160
00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:27,599
>> And the radio system is the old analog

1161
00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:28,560
radio system.

1162
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,760
>> Okay. Got you. Okay. Thank you.

1163
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,520
>> And then the animal control item. I'm

1164
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,440
sorry. Go ahead.

1165
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,240
>> I'm sorry. Question. Uh Steve. So you're

1166
00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:40,880
saying that the new radios that were the

1167
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,640
gift from the state, you have them, you

1168
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,359
use them, but you have to supplement

1169
00:43:47,359 --> 00:43:50,720
them with these old radios.

1170
00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:52,480
>> That's that's exactly right. The new

1171
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,520
radios have the ability to function

1172
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,000
between digital and analog, the two

1173
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,400
different u let's just say operating

1174
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,599
systems um for the radios. Yeah,

1175
00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:05,839
>> the new system is the digital, but it's

1176
00:44:05,839 --> 00:44:08,800
not reaching every place in the county.

1177
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,760
So, we have to toggle behind between

1178
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,880
digital and analog to get full coverage.

1179
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,440
For instance, at the Route 116 flats,

1180
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,040
really since they were built, we've

1181
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:23,520
never had um digital radio coverage. So,

1182
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,800
whenever we go over the bridge by the

1183
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,119
Hoverard Well and Plum Road, we're going

1184
00:44:29,119 --> 00:44:30,800
to switch over to analog so we can talk

1185
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:36,000
to people. um that so that as the

1186
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,160
Commonwealth plugs all the holes in the

1187
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,640
digital system, we should eventually be

1188
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,280
able to get rid of that analog system.

1189
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:48,880
Um but it's a very slow process. And

1190
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,400
10 years ago, they said we'd only be

1191
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,160
able to find parts for another five

1192
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:53,920
years for the radio system, but the

1193
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,400
thing's still kicking. So, um I don't

1194
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,000
think it's in good health, but it's it's

1195
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,599
functioning, and that's what the that's

1196
00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:04,319
what the money goes to support. there.

1197
00:45:04,319 --> 00:45:06,480
>> And then the

1198
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:07,920
>> Sorry. And then the animal control line

1199
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,960
item, that's the um what we used to have

1200
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,800
an animal control officer for and is now

1201
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,040
going to be handled by the Franklin

1202
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,040
Sheriff's Department.

1203
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,319
>> Okay.

1204
00:45:18,319 --> 00:45:18,880
>> Correct.

1205
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,640
>> And this number here is the number for

1206
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,800
them for this coming year.

1207
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:27,829
>> It's me.

1208
00:45:27,839 --> 00:45:28,560
» Got you.

1209
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:29,839
>> I'll take the money though if it's

1210
00:45:29,839 --> 00:45:31,520
available.

1211
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,359
Fair enough.

1212
00:45:33,359 --> 00:45:35,359
>> All right. Okay. Um, any other questions

1213
00:45:35,359 --> 00:45:37,599
from finest?

1214
00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:39,760
>> Dan, Crystal.

1215
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:40,160
>> All right.

1216
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:40,480
>> Okay.

1217
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:41,520
>> I think you're good.

1218
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,319
>> Uh, town park. This one will go quick.

1219
00:45:44,319 --> 00:45:45,920
Um,

1220
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,319
not asking for any changes for the town

1221
00:45:48,319 --> 00:45:51,440
park. the um

1222
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,400
the funds that we're able to to bring

1223
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,079
in, we more or less put back into um

1224
00:45:58,079 --> 00:45:59,760
either maintenance at the park that's

1225
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:04,079
over and above what's budgeted or um the

1226
00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:06,480
fireman's association collects it and we

1227
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,800
are before I end I I've got one thing to

1228
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,400
bring up with you about perhaps future

1229
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,920
capital but um the fireman's association

1230
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,359
does get a little bit of money every

1231
00:46:15,359 --> 00:46:17,440
year from the proceeds of renting the

1232
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,520
town park and maintaining

1233
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,240
that we're getting prepared um to make a

1234
00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:24,160
proposal for a purchase, not this year,

1235
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:25,680
but perhaps next year

1236
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:26,960
>> and ask for a little bit of help from

1237
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,680
the town, but all that money is it's

1238
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,960
accumulating.

1239
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,160
>> So, anything on the town park?

1240
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:37,440
>> Okay.

1241
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,079
>> And Becky, could you kindly bring up the

1242
00:46:40,079 --> 00:46:42,880
um public safety complex

1243
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,280
tab?

1244
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:50,790
>> I think it's Just give me a second.

1245
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,720
It's the PSC.

1246
00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:53,520
>> Yep.

1247
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:54,240
>> PSC.

1248
00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:56,800
>> He's under town buildings. And then

1249
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:01,190
buildings.

1250
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:02,400
» Huh.

1251
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:03,760
>> Can you scroll up? That look like the

1252
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,920
list is longer than just

1253
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,910
>> Yeah,

1254
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,319
» that's a good idea.

1255
00:47:12,319 --> 00:47:14,400
There we go. Town

1256
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,760
>> buildings. PSC PCs.

1257
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,839
bird.

1258
00:47:19,839 --> 00:47:26,309
>> Yes.

1259
00:47:26,319 --> 00:47:28,319
» Can everyone see it? Okay.

1260
00:47:28,319 --> 00:47:31,280
>> Yep.

1261
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:32,960
>> The energy. So, it's broken out a couple

1262
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,200
different ways. Could you slide over to

1263
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,880
the right, Becky?

1264
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,400
>> Oops. Too far. No.

1265
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,319
>> Do you want the reasons?

1266
00:47:44,319 --> 00:47:47,280
>> That's That's good right there.

1267
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:48,800
Okay.

1268
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,920
>> Primarily um looking for a little bit

1269
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,960
more money um for annual floor waxing

1270
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,119
and other maintenance. We found that

1271
00:47:57,119 --> 00:48:00,240
over the years the u

1272
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:02,000
the floors are holding up well, but

1273
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,760
especially years like this with a lot of

1274
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,160
sand and salt, they take a beating. It's

1275
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,160
nice to have them waxed every year and

1276
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:09,760
that figure there is about what we paid

1277
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,359
last year. So asked for um asked for

1278
00:48:13,359 --> 00:48:14,960
that to be rolled into the budget just

1279
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,760
so uh year like this I think we're okay

1280
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,640
with oil and our our spend as far as

1281
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:25,119
heating but um we'll find out if it

1282
00:48:25,119 --> 00:48:26,800
warms up like it's supposed to next week

1283
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,400
it won't be that bad. But if we keep

1284
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,200
getting nights around zero uh building

1285
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,079
uses a lot of energy to keep the trucks

1286
00:48:34,079 --> 00:48:38,230
at 50°.

1287
00:48:38,240 --> 00:48:39,920
So, it looks like we have an increase of

1288
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:45,359
a little under $1,400 for the floor um

1289
00:48:45,359 --> 00:48:46,800
>> floor maintenance.

1290
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:47,599
>> Yeah.

1291
00:48:47,599 --> 00:48:49,040
>> And that's the only increase you're

1292
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,079
looking at there.

1293
00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:53,359
>> Uh tough spend. I asked for a little bit

1294
00:48:53,359 --> 00:48:56,400
more money up top just for general um I

1295
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,559
want to say energy. Could you slide back

1296
00:48:58,559 --> 00:48:59,920
to the left, Becky?

1297
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:01,200
>> No, the first one's operation. The

1298
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:02,160
second one's energy.

1299
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,000
>> Operations and energy. All right.

1300
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,359
>> Yeah.

1301
00:49:05,359 --> 00:49:08,319
>> The operations. So that's okay. That's

1302
00:49:08,319 --> 00:49:10,640
why there's a total there as well. So

1303
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,119
similar as our our fire department

1304
00:49:13,119 --> 00:49:13,599
budget.

1305
00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:14,079
>> Y

1306
00:49:14,079 --> 00:49:18,720
>> yeah just that whatever that is 1300400

1307
00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:22,000
that was asked um is just for the floor

1308
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,000
waxing all the other operational

1309
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,640
expenses I anticipate to be flat for

1310
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:27,280
next year.

1311
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:28,720
>> Okay great.

1312
00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:30,640
>> So could you just clarify? So if I look

1313
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,119
at this so the using the total row so

1314
00:49:33,119 --> 00:49:37,520
FY24 budget was 33,000 FY sorry FY25

1315
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,920
budget was 34,000

1316
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,720
26 was 289 and now we're back to 328.

1317
00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:47,040
Okay, for FY25, it says 33,275

1318
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,440
total spend for FY25 over on the notes

1319
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:50,160
column,

1320
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,480
>> but then looking at the FY25 expendit

1321
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,240
25555 at least on the one I'm

1322
00:49:56,240 --> 00:49:58,240
>> Becky, could you artic is there a

1323
00:49:58,240 --> 00:50:04,069
>> I think missing in that 25

1324
00:50:04,079 --> 00:50:07,040
» the 33 would make more sense given the

1325
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,839
>> for FY25 on the total public safety

1326
00:50:09,839 --> 00:50:12,800
complex expense the budget was $34,000.

1327
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,720
just trying to verify what the expended

1328
00:50:14,720 --> 00:50:17,760
was. If it was the 25555 in there or

1329
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:22,000
over in cell L9 where it says 33275 was

1330
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:28,710
the spend.

1331
00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:31,200
» I'm sorry. I'm looking over at L. He's

1332
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:31,920
saying

1333
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,280
>> the top right

1334
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,359
>> up two from there. If you go up two,

1335
00:50:35,359 --> 00:50:36,960
you'll see it says 337.

1336
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,520
>> Okay. So, it says 33275

1337
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,160
in the up corner.

1338
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,480
2075.

1339
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,079
Yeah. So, that note would have been

1340
00:50:46,079 --> 00:50:48,160
written during the budget and I would

1341
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:52,400
have put um we put in the 25,000.

1342
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,480
>> Yeah. 25,000 seems more accurate given

1343
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,480
what time of we where we are in the time

1344
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:57,520
of year.

1345
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,599
>> I would

1346
00:50:59,599 --> 00:51:01,119
I wouldn't see you having spent the

1347
00:51:01,119 --> 00:51:03,920
whole budget at this point in the year.

1348
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,280
>> Right. But what they're saying is that

1349
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:09,680
>> 26 maybe get left over. Oh, right.

1350
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:10,079
>> Right.

1351
00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:13,359
>> Yeah. I do that all the time.

1352
00:51:13,359 --> 00:51:15,760
>> Why can't it all just be right here?

1353
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,520
>> All right.

1354
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:18,640
Okay.

1355
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,480
>> 3327.

1356
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,200
>> There.

1357
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,160
Any other questions from finance?

1358
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:30,000
>> Well, I guess if if it was 33275 in 25,

1359
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,400
then what are we not doing in 26 that we

1360
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,960
have a budget of 29,000 and we're going

1361
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,839
to meet it? Just less floor stripping.

1362
00:51:37,839 --> 00:51:39,119
Like I'm just trying to understand like

1363
00:51:39,119 --> 00:51:40,319
what got moved around.

1364
00:51:40,319 --> 00:51:42,400
>> Yeah. And again, I apologize. I don't

1365
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,960
have that one sheet that's got I added

1366
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,960
another column on mine over to the right

1367
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,240
to explain. I could check into that over

1368
00:51:50,240 --> 00:51:53,920
>> the year that the um exhaust

1369
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:54,559
stuff.

1370
00:51:54,559 --> 00:51:57,119
>> Uh we did that through a grant.

1371
00:51:57,119 --> 00:51:59,119
>> All of it though was through grants.

1372
00:51:59,119 --> 00:52:01,440
>> Yeah. Now there is also

1373
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,760
>> took care of a lot of it.

1374
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,720
>> Yeah. There's also uh spend that could

1375
00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:08,720
be included in that for just general

1376
00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:11,599
HVAC because there was the project, but

1377
00:52:11,599 --> 00:52:14,160
we've also had we still have um a

1378
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,720
handful of smaller projects to do. I

1379
00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:19,040
think we may still have a little bit of

1380
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:24,480
money left in some of the uh the accounts there.

1381
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:24,800
>> Okay.

1382
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,800
>> PSC um HVAC, what acronym?

1383
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,349
>> Yes.

1384
00:52:31,359 --> 00:52:34,559
and Chief Eric and I arm wrestle over

1385
00:52:34,559 --> 00:52:40,069
how we're going to spend that money. Um,

1386
00:52:40,079 --> 00:52:43,910
» sounds like

1387
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,319
» Yeah, you could raise money. It's a

1388
00:52:46,319 --> 00:52:49,119
different revenue generating.

1389
00:52:49,119 --> 00:52:56,390
>> Could have it at the town park.

1390
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:57,760
» All right. Anyone else have any

1391
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,720
questions before we

1392
00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:03,760
finish up with fire?

1393
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,079
All righty. Thank you very much. We

1394
00:53:06,079 --> 00:53:08,640
appreciate it.

1395
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:08,960
>> All right.

1396
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:10,480
>> Thank you, Steve.

1397
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:15,349
>> You're welcome, Becky. Thank you.

1398
00:53:15,359 --> 00:53:21,910
» Next up, we have building inspector.

1399
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:22,880
» Thank you for coming in.

1400
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,400
>> Short and sweet. You haven't changed

1401
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,079
anything.

1402
00:53:26,079 --> 00:53:27,520
the same just if there's a colo

1403
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,319
available asking you know like it so

1404
00:53:30,319 --> 00:53:30,720
>> yep

1405
00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:32,160
>> everything the same the only thing we

1406
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,079
brought up last time and this might not

1407
00:53:34,079 --> 00:53:37,119
be the board um I don't think finance

1408
00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:38,319
would have anything to do with it but we

1409
00:53:38,319 --> 00:53:40,079
had mentioned or I had mentioned and we

1410
00:53:40,079 --> 00:53:42,800
never followed up on it or I didn't um

1411
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,839
we went up the um percentage for the

1412
00:53:45,839 --> 00:53:48,800
online fee so we went from $10 permit to

1413
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:49,839
12

1414
00:53:49,839 --> 00:53:52,880
>> and any other community will add that to

1415
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,920
$2 permit just to cover our expenses,

1416
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,280
you know, of what it's costing us for

1417
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:58,880
the program. So, I didn't know if it has

1418
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,079
to be a different meeting or we could

1419
00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:02,000
get the okay on that since I forgot to

1420
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,599
come back last year or we just

1421
00:54:03,599 --> 00:54:07,359
overlooked it to get that $2 um how that

1422
00:54:07,359 --> 00:54:09,119
works

1423
00:54:09,119 --> 00:54:11,680
>> procedurally. I'm not sure, Becky. Do we

1424
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,079
have to have that be a line item on a

1425
00:54:14,079 --> 00:54:15,599
agenda in order to do that or is that

1426
00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:18,160
something we can approve?

1427
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,800
>> I think we should. I'm sorry, but well,

1428
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,280
let's discuss it and then you can make

1429
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,359
your decision at the next meeting after

1430
00:54:25,359 --> 00:54:26,960
you get all your information.

1431
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:28,640
>> Okay, great. So, yeah, we'll put that as

1432
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,200
a as a line item for a future meeting.

1433
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,280
>> So, it's all permits though, not just

1434
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,520
building. It would be wiring and

1435
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:36,880
plumbing and

1436
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:38,720
>> gas. Every permit,

1437
00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:39,119
>> yes,

1438
00:54:39,119 --> 00:54:43,200
>> would go up $2 to just

1439
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:47,920
>> basically break even on the cost of what

1440
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,760
that software cost us.

1441
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:50,240
>> Yes.

1442
00:54:50,240 --> 00:54:50,559
>> Okay.

1443
00:54:50,559 --> 00:54:51,200
>> Y

1444
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,520
>> how does it compare to other towns? It

1445
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:54,400
seems really low.

1446
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,200
>> It's the same um just did the same thing

1447
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,040
in Graanby, the same uh program and

1448
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,319
that's what they did. Added the $12.

1449
00:55:02,319 --> 00:55:02,800
Yep.

1450
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,880
>> Hadley, Southampton, all of them just,

1451
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,839
you know, break even with that. Okay.

1452
00:55:07,839 --> 00:55:09,359
It made total sense. So, we'll make sure

1453
00:55:09,359 --> 00:55:11,839
we put that one on discuss it.

1454
00:55:11,839 --> 00:55:14,640
>> And we didn't do it for a year, but it's

1455
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,480
still 12. It's not like it's 13 now.

1456
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:17,680
>> We haven't heard it. The bad thing was

1457
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:18,960
it went up in the middle of the year,

1458
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:20,720
you know, after the budget was all out

1459
00:55:20,720 --> 00:55:23,200
>> and um Beck Becky caught her payment and

1460
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:24,640
said, "What's going on here? Why is it,

1461
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,240
you know, the extra $800 or whatever."

1462
00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:29,359
So, we um you know, guess we should have

1463
00:55:29,359 --> 00:55:30,720
come sooner with it, but if we could get

1464
00:55:30,720 --> 00:55:32,559
that on sooner than later, it's not a

1465
00:55:32,559 --> 00:55:33,760
big deal, but it's every little bit

1466
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:34,559
helps. So,

1467
00:55:34,559 --> 00:55:37,280
>> yeah. I mean, it's it should be budget

1468
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:38,000
neutral. So,

1469
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:39,520
>> yep. Make sure it is.

1470
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,040
>> All right. And then other than that,

1471
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:45,520
your cola is aside, your your budget is

1472
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:46,640
flat from last year.

1473
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,480
>> Yes. Everything.

1474
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,359
>> Okay. Well, that's wonderful news on my

1475
00:55:51,359 --> 00:55:54,160
end. Any questions on that from

1476
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,359
>> any place you can cut it back?

1477
00:55:57,359 --> 00:55:58,640
>> Should be lower than zero.

1478
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,799
>> We got a wish list.

1479
00:56:00,799 --> 00:56:02,480
>> Any questions?

1480
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,880
>> She teaches early wise.

1481
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,799
Wonderful. Well, thank you very much and

1482
00:56:06,799 --> 00:56:09,280
we'll discuss the the improving the

1483
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:10,480
increase in the fees and get back to you

1484
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:11,520
on that SAP.

1485
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:12,079
>> Sounds good.

1486
00:56:12,079 --> 00:56:13,440
>> Wonderful. Thank you for coming in.

1487
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:14,079
>> Thank you.

1488
00:56:14,079 --> 00:56:14,880
>> Have yourself a great day.

1489
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,720
>> Yeah. I'm going to hang out just in case

1490
00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:19,440
anything discussed with the uh one of

1491
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,200
the things in the agenda earlier. So,

1492
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,640
>> sounds good. Um, all right. Up last for

1493
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,799
new business is discussing the Roy

1494
00:56:26,799 --> 00:56:30,880
Bishop contract with the assessors

1495
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,319
or more quickly.

1496
00:56:32,319 --> 00:56:35,760
>> Is this still funny? I believe.

1497
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,680
>> Yeah. I don't believe the assessors are

1498
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:38,960
there tonight.

1499
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,640
>> Um the what they're requesting is

1500
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,880
>> Did you want to complete with finance

1501
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:45,599
committee first?

1502
00:56:45,599 --> 00:56:47,280
>> Yeah, that that's a good point. I was

1503
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:48,720
>> in my head it was all part of the same

1504
00:56:48,720 --> 00:56:50,240
thing, but if you guys would like to

1505
00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:51,280
adjourn, please do.

1506
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:53,040
>> Before we complete and and sorry I

1507
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:54,400
missed the last meeting, is there any

1508
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,599
like 30,000 foot things about the budget

1509
00:56:57,599 --> 00:56:59,359
cycle this year that you have been

1510
00:56:59,359 --> 00:57:00,880
thinking about that we should talk

1511
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:04,240
about? any major concerns or positives

1512
00:57:04,240 --> 00:57:05,760
in any things that Becky's seeing and

1513
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,119
you guys are seeing

1514
00:57:07,119 --> 00:57:08,799
>> in so much as the presentations we've

1515
00:57:08,799 --> 00:57:10,880
had so far? Not so much.

1516
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:11,680
>> Right.

1517
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,000
>> Um the school budgets are going to be

1518
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,559
the big things those are coming up soon.

1519
00:57:16,559 --> 00:57:19,200
>> So before we um leave, there's two

1520
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:23,280
meetings coming up. Well, there will be finance committee, select board

1521
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:29,270
and other groups. So on um

1522
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:30,319
» March 23rd,

1523
00:57:30,319 --> 00:57:32,559
>> sorry, on March 23rd, February March

1524
00:57:32,559 --> 00:57:34,799
23rd, this group will also be meeting

1525
00:57:34,799 --> 00:57:36,880
with both the Frontier School Committee

1526
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,040
and the Sunland School Committee.

1527
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,440
>> Tenative tenative they're trying that.

1528
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,119
So that is our regular meeting time. So

1529
00:57:43,119 --> 00:57:45,200
easy enough for us. the other time it's

1530
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:46,720
a regular meeting time for us where

1531
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,160
we'll be meeting with the three towns to

1532
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:49,680
talk about South County

1533
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:53,599
>> Senior Center and South County um em

1534
00:57:53,599 --> 00:57:56,720
>> EMS thank you em something um is Monday

1535
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,040
March 30th again pretty late in our

1536
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,839
cycle but still in our cycle also one of

1537
00:58:01,839 --> 00:58:03,359
the regular meeting times that we meet

1538
00:58:03,359 --> 00:58:05,200
but we'll meet at Deerfield

1539
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:05,599
>> okay

1540
00:58:05,599 --> 00:58:08,079
>> at the conference room there or on Zoom

1541
00:58:08,079 --> 00:58:10,079
>> and we'll we'll revisit that two weeks

1542
00:58:10,079 --> 00:58:11,680
prior in the meeting

1543
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,200
>> just to announce those two things are

1544
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:14,880
coming up that We're still on our cycle,

1545
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:16,799
but kind of odd.

1546
00:58:16,799 --> 00:58:19,280
>> Yeah. And we will confirm the 23rd,

1547
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,119
which is 2 weeks from today.

1548
00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:22,799
>> Um, we'll confirm once we get

1549
00:58:22,799 --> 00:58:25,440
confirmation that Darius and at least

1550
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:26,960
some people from the school committees

1551
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:27,760
are

1552
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:31,440
>> you said March 23rd. February.

1553
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:32,960
>> That's February 23rd.

1554
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,520
>> And then March 30th is the South County.

1555
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:36,160
>> Y got.

1556
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,839
>> Um, so we'll confirm that one via email

1557
00:58:39,839 --> 00:58:41,680
because we're able to do that via open

1558
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:43,680
emails. Um and then we'll get that

1559
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,680
posted once we have a confirmation from

1560
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:47,040
all parties involved

1561
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:48,400
>> and that and we're thinking the same

1562
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:49,440
time too.

1563
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:50,400
>> Yeah.

1564
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,559
>> So unless somebody on the school board

1565
00:58:52,559 --> 00:58:53,839
>> unless Darius and the school committee

1566
00:58:53,839 --> 00:58:54,720
aren't available at that time in which

1567
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:55,839
case we'll look at another one of our

1568
00:58:55,839 --> 00:58:57,440
meeting times probably two weeks after

1569
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,200
that. Um and we'll we'll figure that out

1570
00:58:59,200 --> 00:58:59,599
from there.

1571
00:58:59,599 --> 00:59:01,520
>> Okay. Awesome. Thank you.

1572
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,200
>> And uh just one other topic from last

1573
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:04,000
year.

1574
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,880
>> I I have a question too. When you ask

1575
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,079
it, um,

1576
00:59:08,079 --> 00:59:09,280
>> I was just going to ask about health

1577
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:10,319
insurance because last year that was

1578
00:59:10,319 --> 00:59:11,760
another I didn't know if there was any

1579
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:12,559
visibility on.

1580
00:59:12,559 --> 00:59:15,040
>> I I have an answer on health insurance.

1581
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:15,359
>> Great.

1582
00:59:15,359 --> 00:59:17,680
>> All right.

1583
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,319
>> Go ahead, Becky.

1584
00:59:20,319 --> 00:59:25,280
Um, we heard from U. Maya this week and

1585
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,319
after the MMA conference where they

1586
00:59:28,319 --> 00:59:32,720
voted to uh eliminate their GPL1,

1587
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,119
um, our our rate for this year is going

1588
00:59:35,119 --> 00:59:37,680
to be 8.5.

1589
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:38,319
>> Okay.

1590
00:59:38,319 --> 00:59:40,640
>> 8.5% up from last year.

1591
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:41,760
>> Yeah.

1592
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:42,559
>> Which is still a little

1593
00:59:42,559 --> 00:59:44,559
>> up from last year, but we were facing

1594
00:59:44,559 --> 00:59:46,319
threats of 15%

1595
00:59:46,319 --> 00:59:48,880
>> and 18 and 14. I mean, yeah, 15 was like

1596
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,200
the good news after the even worse news.

1597
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:51,760
So that's

1598
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,280
>> single digits.

1599
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,440
>> Doesn't sound like great news, but they

1600
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,319
really managed expectations very

1601
00:59:58,319 --> 00:59:59,119
thrilled with

1602
00:59:59,119 --> 01:00:02,240
>> it was 100% and then it was 50%.

1603
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:03,760
Okay. All right.

1604
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,680
>> That GP1 shift is happening in a lot of

1605
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:06,160
places.

1606
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,359
>> Yes, that is a big issue um

1607
01:00:09,359 --> 01:00:11,040
industrywide.

1608
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:12,160
>> Okay. Thank you.

1609
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,319
>> Absolutely. Yeah. Any other questions

1610
01:00:14,319 --> 01:00:17,119
before you all dissolve for the day? All

1611
01:00:17,119 --> 01:00:19,040
right.

1612
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:20,400
Joe has one.

1613
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,799
>> Yep.

1614
01:00:22,799 --> 01:00:25,200
>> Hello.

1615
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:26,720
Oh, yeah. Okay. I'm good. Sorry.

1616
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,599
I lost. So, just I put it out last week

1617
01:00:29,599 --> 01:00:31,760
and then a lot of neighbors are asking

1618
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,880
me. So, I'm asking you all about the the

1619
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:36,720
increased

1620
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,280
uh taxes based on the reassessment. And

1621
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,440
it looks like because we didn't put the

1622
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,599
override in last year, there's a double

1623
01:00:43,599 --> 01:00:46,319
override. Is that why the increase looks

1624
01:00:46,319 --> 01:00:49,280
so high? And also in terms of the

1625
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,720
budget, are we using the accurate

1626
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:56,960
increase with those increases in taxes

1627
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,359
as our revenue? Are we still using the

1628
01:00:59,359 --> 01:01:01,280
ones for the increase?

1629
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:02,799
>> So, I can I think I can answer all your

1630
01:01:02,799 --> 01:01:04,240
questions. Um I'm going go backwards

1631
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,040
starting with so the the capital line

1632
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,920
item is a separate tax item than the

1633
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:11,599
budget line item that each of them

1634
01:01:11,599 --> 01:01:13,119
increase by 2 and a half% or up two and

1635
01:01:13,119 --> 01:01:14,880
a half%

1636
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,359
per approximate two and a half. Um but

1637
01:01:17,359 --> 01:01:18,640
the increase or decrease in one or the

1638
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:20,000
other doesn't affect the other one. So

1639
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:23,359
our budget is up 2 and a half% over what

1640
01:01:23,359 --> 01:01:24,880
it was last year or two and a half% of

1641
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,040
the year before that but unrelated to

1642
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,680
the capital expenditure. Um, in terms of

1643
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,079
people's tax bills, what happened is

1644
01:01:32,079 --> 01:01:33,680
last year their tax bill went down

1645
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:35,520
because we made a mistake and this year

1646
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:37,599
it's both going back up by the amount it

1647
01:01:37,599 --> 01:01:39,520
should have been last year and then also

1648
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,200
increasing by the normal 2 and a half%

1649
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,040
that it would increase this year.

1650
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,359
>> Um, and so

1651
01:01:45,359 --> 01:01:47,119
as much as it's not it's it's harder to

1652
01:01:47,119 --> 01:01:48,880
do that, what I would tell people is

1653
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,040
look at your tax bill two years ago,

1654
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:52,960
compare that to this year, don't compare

1655
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:54,240
last year's to this year because last

1656
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,000
year's was artificially substantially

1657
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:57,920
lower than it should have been. Um, and

1658
01:01:57,920 --> 01:01:59,680
so yes, it does look like it's a double

1659
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,079
increase, but really it's a it's a

1660
01:02:02,079 --> 01:02:04,880
recuperation and then an increase from

1661
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:06,720
previous years.

1662
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,160
>> Does that make sense?

1663
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,079
>> Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I've been

1664
01:02:10,079 --> 01:02:11,920
telling them go back to your 3 four

1665
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:15,520
years of tax, follow that trend and you

1666
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,000
know that's what they're advising them

1667
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:19,920
to do. But does that mean we have more

1668
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,240
income or is that income from the last

1669
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,359
one that didn't get on the back? So, in

1670
01:02:25,359 --> 01:02:26,880
terms of the operating budget, it has no

1671
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:28,240
effect. It didn't last year. It doesn't

1672
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:29,680
this year. In terms of our capital

1673
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,319
budget, man, last year was a real fun

1674
01:02:32,319 --> 01:02:33,680
year for capital because we didn't have

1675
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:37,040
any money. Um, and this year, and and

1676
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:38,559
>> to be clear, it's not that we're

1677
01:02:38,559 --> 01:02:40,400
collecting two years worth of capital

1678
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,319
money. We're still only getting this

1679
01:02:42,319 --> 01:02:43,680
year's how much we should have gotten

1680
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,599
all along. This year, had it increased

1681
01:02:45,599 --> 01:02:47,280
by 2 and a half% last year and had

1682
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:48,559
increased by 2 and 12% this year.

1683
01:02:48,559 --> 01:02:49,839
>> So, we still missed a year.

1684
01:02:49,839 --> 01:02:51,440
>> We missed an entire year. We never are

1685
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:52,640
making that money up. That money is just

1686
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:54,240
gone. It was a gift to the gift to the

1687
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,160
members of town who got to have a nice

1688
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,319
little tax break for a year. Um, what it

1689
01:02:58,319 --> 01:03:00,559
did for full visibility to everybody.

1690
01:03:00,559 --> 01:03:02,559
What it did is it it tightened a lot of

1691
01:03:02,559 --> 01:03:04,960
our belts for the capital side of things

1692
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,200
because we had to find this money here

1693
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:10,480
and this money there and this money here. And doing that was

1694
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:12,960
allowed us through but also closed all

1695
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:14,880
those doors for having that money be

1696
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,280
there to find two years from now or four

1697
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,839
years from now. Um, and we also spent

1698
01:03:19,839 --> 01:03:23,039
more free cash into the capital

1699
01:03:23,039 --> 01:03:25,039
stabilization fund than we would have

1700
01:03:25,039 --> 01:03:26,960
normally liked to had we not had that

1701
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:27,680
happen.

1702
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:32,319
>> Um, so yeah, there's no no impact on the operating budget, but the capital

1703
01:03:32,319 --> 01:03:34,400
stabilization budget is in a lot better

1704
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:38,160
shape this year than was last year.

1705
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:39,920
>> Okay, that's I appreciate that. Will

1706
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:41,760
make it easier for me to explain that

1707
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:43,359
some of the dangers. Thank you.

1708
01:03:43,359 --> 01:03:44,799
>> Oh, yes. I've heard quite a bit about it

1709
01:03:44,799 --> 01:03:47,440
myself for sure.

1710
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:48,559
All righty.

1711
01:03:48,559 --> 01:03:49,200
>> Yeah.

1712
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,599
>> I will turn it over to Val to

1713
01:03:51,599 --> 01:03:53,200
>> I'm accepting a motion to adjourn from

1714
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:54,160
the finance committee.

1715
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:57,119
>> So moved. Second.

1716
01:03:57,119 --> 01:03:59,280
>> All in favor?

1717
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:03,760
>> I Joe Elias.

1718
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:04,559
>> All righty.

1719
01:04:04,559 --> 01:04:06,240
>> All right. Approved.

1720
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:06,960
>> See you guys in two weeks.

1721
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:08,240
>> See you all later. Have a nice

1722
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,000
>> Yep. And we will be in touch via email

1723
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,640
about confirming two weeks from now. Um

1724
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,200
including the the schools.

1725
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:16,799
>> All righty. Come in.

1726
01:04:16,799 --> 01:04:20,160
>> Moving back on over to the Ward Bishop

1727
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:21,359
contract.

1728
01:04:21,359 --> 01:04:24,720
>> And Tom, just so you know that um I

1729
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:26,799
believe the agenda item you're probably

1730
01:04:26,799 --> 01:04:30,000
waiting here for is not going to happen.

1731
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:31,839
>> Not going to happen. Becky just said

1732
01:04:31,839 --> 01:04:34,960
that maybe I should um in case you had a

1733
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:35,359
question.

1734
01:04:35,359 --> 01:04:36,160
>> Okay, perfect.

1735
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:37,039
>> Perfect.

1736
01:04:37,039 --> 01:04:38,720
>> We'll be done that one momentarily.

1737
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:40,720
We're just

1738
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:42,079
>> I have nothing better to do, right?

1739
01:04:42,079 --> 01:04:43,200
>> There you go. Hang out.

1740
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,599
>> They're fun. Meetings are fun. So,

1741
01:04:45,599 --> 01:04:47,280
Becky, for the Roy Bishop contract, is

1742
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:48,400
that something we want to just push off

1743
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:49,839
until the sessions are here, or is that

1744
01:04:49,839 --> 01:04:51,520
something that we can look at now

1745
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,960
ourselves without them?

1746
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:56,880
>> I I believe we can look at it without

1747
01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:00,000
them. They um this is an annual

1748
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,839
contract. We've been contracting with

1749
01:05:01,839 --> 01:05:04,960
Roy Bishop. I know at least 10 years.

1750
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:06,559
I'm not sure

1751
01:05:06,559 --> 01:05:09,359
>> what the history is before that. Well,

1752
01:05:09,359 --> 01:05:11,599
about I'm assuming it's about 10 years.

1753
01:05:11,599 --> 01:05:15,280
He's been around for a long time. Um

1754
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:19,839
he does uh he's been very thorough. He's

1755
01:05:19,839 --> 01:05:23,119
gone through all the valuations for us.

1756
01:05:23,119 --> 01:05:26,640
Um and I believe his rate is quite

1757
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:30,880
reasonable um for you know having a

1758
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,200
skilled assessor

1759
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,119
um

1760
01:05:35,119 --> 01:05:38,240
to consult with your town in this day in

1761
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:43,599
this time period is a very one. It's a rare resource that we greatly

1762
01:05:43,599 --> 01:05:47,599
appreciate um having Roy to assist the

1763
01:05:47,599 --> 01:05:49,280
assessor's department.

1764
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:49,920
>> Okay.

1765
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:50,960
>> And I'm looking at the

1766
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:52,799
>> we wouldn't have gotten he's been

1767
01:05:52,799 --> 01:05:55,680
handling all the valuations and we need

1768
01:05:55,680 --> 01:06:01,359
to work with him more to make sure um

1769
01:06:01,359 --> 01:06:03,520
we're covering everything just because

1770
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:06,000
he's giving us very good deals. on, but

1771
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,240
it's he's

1772
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,720
came back when I asked for more

1773
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:13,680
questions. He's been very responsive and

1774
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:15,520
I very much appreciate his work.

1775
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:17,359
>> Okay. And I'm looking at the the um

1776
01:06:17,359 --> 01:06:20,799
agreement and it looks like it's $9,500

1777
01:06:20,799 --> 01:06:23,520
and then additional services for $25 per

1778
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:26,000
partial inspection.

1779
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:30,880
Is that the document I'm looking at?

1780
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:31,520
>> Yeah.

1781
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,440
>> Okay.

1782
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:34,960
Dan, Crystal, any questions on that?

1783
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:36,000
Just what was the last?

1784
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,799
>> I think we I'm sorry. I had misread the

1785
01:06:38,799 --> 01:06:40,160
amount.

1786
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:42,079
>> I did it quickly. I think we need to

1787
01:06:42,079 --> 01:06:43,920
hold off on that contract till we

1788
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:47,599
discuss it further. I'm sorry.

1789
01:06:47,599 --> 01:06:49,039
>> Do we know what it was last year or is

1790
01:06:49,039 --> 01:06:50,799
that that what we need to check on it?

1791
01:06:50,799 --> 01:06:52,880
>> I think it was 3500.

1792
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:54,559
>> Oh, okay. So, yeah, we we'll definitely

1793
01:06:54,559 --> 01:06:56,319
want to check into that and get back to

1794
01:06:56,319 --> 01:06:58,319
that one.

1795
01:06:58,319 --> 01:07:00,319
>> Yeah. And I just looked quickly at I

1796
01:07:00,319 --> 01:07:01,680
thought it was the same. So I got to

1797
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:03,760
review that very clearly.

1798
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:05,920
>> All right, we will next week when we're

1799
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:09,280
having a nonfincom meeting, we can re

1800
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:11,599
readress that item.

1801
01:07:11,599 --> 01:07:14,720
>> All right, which brings us to that's the

1802
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:16,160
last piece of new business brings us to

1803
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,400
old business. Um the first item of old

1804
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,319
business is a review of the greenhouse

1805
01:07:20,319 --> 01:07:21,920
concerns. As we have discussed in the

1806
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,880
past, we have a member of town who um

1807
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,200
abuts a farm who recently put in a

1808
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,440
greenhouse and that greenhouse moves

1809
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:31,119
quite a bit in the wind.

1810
01:07:31,119 --> 01:07:31,920
>> Three green houses.

1811
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:33,119
sorry. Three green

1812
01:07:33,119 --> 01:07:35,520
houses um that are made out of that

1813
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:38,240
flexible plastic material. Um and the

1814
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:40,000
wind apparently makes them move quite a

1815
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,960
bit which is um causing sound levels

1816
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:47,440
that are beyond minor nuisance. Um and

1817
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,640
the the a budding property owner has

1818
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:52,319
reached out to the select board to

1819
01:07:52,319 --> 01:07:57,280
request some kind of um relief to their concerns.

1820
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,520
>> Crystal, do you have any more details on

1821
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:00,000
that one?

1822
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:03,920
>> Uh Becky, were you able to get in touch

1823
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:07,359
with anyone today regarding Okay. So,

1824
01:08:07,359 --> 01:08:08,400
why don't you

1825
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,559
>> Yeah. Um

1826
01:08:10,559 --> 01:08:14,480
so a a a suggestion has come up um in uh

1827
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,440
regarding the green houses that it would

1828
01:08:17,440 --> 01:08:22,400
be beneficial if um I think it was Atlas

1829
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:27,040
Farm has called uh the homeowner and

1830
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:30,319
suggested that maybe a mediation

1831
01:08:30,319 --> 01:08:37,279
would be helpful. And um I have um so

1832
01:08:37,279 --> 01:08:39,759
the select board representative would be

1833
01:08:39,759 --> 01:08:43,600
Crystal and then Tom Quinnland, our

1834
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:46,319
building commissioner, and myself. I'm

1835
01:08:46,319 --> 01:08:49,679
proposing the three town officials sit

1836
01:08:49,679 --> 01:08:53,120
down with these two parties and listen

1837
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:57,279
and and help them come to an agreement

1838
01:08:57,279 --> 01:09:00,000
that could satisfy their the problem

1839
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,799
that is occurring. So I've checked with

1840
01:09:02,799 --> 01:09:05,199
town council. There was a concern that

1841
01:09:05,199 --> 01:09:07,359
we should not get involved. But I think

1842
01:09:07,359 --> 01:09:11,679
if we um make no promises, this group of

1843
01:09:11,679 --> 01:09:14,560
people has no authority to make promises

1844
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:19,440
to um engage the town. So we just be

1845
01:09:19,440 --> 01:09:25,040
clear with them at the outset that the the rules of the game are we're here

1846
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:27,520
to listen, support, and help you find a

1847
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:29,120
solution.

1848
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:32,640
We are not here in an official uh

1849
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:35,279
capacity with authority, but we are very

1850
01:09:35,279 --> 01:09:37,440
much interested in helping you resolve

1851
01:09:37,440 --> 01:09:40,080
this issue.

1852
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,239
>> And if the select board is agreeable to

1853
01:09:42,239 --> 01:09:45,669
that approach.

1854
01:09:45,679 --> 01:09:47,199
» Yeah. No, that that sounds good. I I

1855
01:09:47,199 --> 01:09:48,880
appreciate Crystal you having taken

1856
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:50,400
>> and that's the thing. I want to give

1857
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:52,560
both of you the opportunity if either

1858
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:55,520
one of you would prefer to

1859
01:09:55,520 --> 01:10:00,000
>> mediate on this. I am open to letting

1860
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,480
you do it. I do not mind doing it. I

1861
01:10:02,480 --> 01:10:03,520
just didn't know if

1862
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:05,760
>> No, I appreciate I I always appreciate

1863
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:07,360
>> I always want to be asked to dance. You

1864
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:08,640
know what I mean? I always want the

1865
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:10,400
invitation. I'm not always going to say

1866
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:11,760
yes, but I always want the invitation.

1867
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:13,199
Um, no. I I appreciate you taking care

1868
01:10:13,199 --> 01:10:14,400
of it. Um, I appreciated from the

1869
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:15,520
beginning that you had the interest in

1870
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:17,360
taking care of it and I would be happy

1871
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:20,560
to have you do so. Um, I agree with the

1872
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,719
concern of not having it be an official

1873
01:10:22,719 --> 01:10:24,800
duty of the town to not put ourselves in

1874
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:26,239
a position where we either make promises

1875
01:10:26,239 --> 01:10:28,719
that the town legally or otherwise can't

1876
01:10:28,719 --> 01:10:31,360
fulfill. Um, nor get ourselves sort of

1877
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:32,880
in the middle of something that is

1878
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:34,960
inherently a dispute between two

1879
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,280
property owners. Um, I guess my big

1880
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,040
question, and this is just for my own my

1881
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:43,040
own peace of mind or or my own brain, is

1882
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:48,000
what would the steps like if if if if

1883
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,400
there was a a good conversation and they

1884
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:51,679
met in the middle, what would that look

1885
01:10:51,679 --> 01:10:53,600
like? Is are there steps that being can

1886
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:57,040
be taken by Atlas farms to lessen the

1887
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:57,920
noise that they're

1888
01:10:57,920 --> 01:10:59,679
>> And so that's what we don't know.

1889
01:10:59,679 --> 01:11:01,280
Because that's part of my question is if

1890
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:03,440
there is nothing other than they stay up

1891
01:11:03,440 --> 01:11:05,199
and it's horrible, they tear them down

1892
01:11:05,199 --> 01:11:06,719
and they're no longer there. If there's

1893
01:11:06,719 --> 01:11:08,640
no middle ground, I guess my question is

1894
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:10,400
what what can be found, right?

1895
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,000
>> We'd have to know that there's some

1896
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:13,920
remediation efforts,

1897
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:15,440
>> windshields they can put up,

1898
01:11:15,440 --> 01:11:18,960
>> right? So, and that's again, this is a

1899
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,120
very different winter than other winters

1900
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,679
we've had, right? So,

1901
01:11:23,679 --> 01:11:26,640
>> again, I know nothing about greenhouse

1902
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:29,120
construction. Nothing. I'm not even

1903
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:32,480
going to try to pretend I do, but like

1904
01:11:32,480 --> 01:11:36,000
it appears right now the noise is

1905
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,800
lessened because of the snow buildup

1906
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:40,880
around them.

1907
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:42,480
>> So

1908
01:11:42,480 --> 01:11:46,640
again, us not knowing, you know, is

1909
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,520
there something they can do? You know,

1910
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:53,360
some type of barrier or padding around

1911
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:55,280
those in the wind. I don't know the

1912
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,120
answer to that. Hopefully the farmer

1913
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:58,239
does. Yep.

1914
01:11:58,239 --> 01:12:02,080
>> And if he doesn't know the answer,

1915
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:05,040
you know, we're there to

1916
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:09,040
>> just, you know, encourage him to look

1917
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:12,560
into it, encourage

1918
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:14,400
>> the homeowner, you know, I mean, we're

1919
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:17,120
just there to

1920
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:18,400
grease the process and

1921
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:20,000
>> to try to be the person who takes the

1922
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:21,920
deep breath and go, you know, because

1923
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:26,080
>> Yeah. No, I'm sure that both sides are passionate about the the the

1924
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,320
situation. It's livelihood versus, you

1925
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:30,080
know, being able to utilize one's home

1926
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:31,600
and, you know, peace of mind in one

1927
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:32,239
home, right?

1928
01:12:32,239 --> 01:12:34,000
>> So, yeah. No, I I think it it makes a

1929
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,960
lot of sense to have the town, as you

1930
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:38,800
said, just be the the cool, calm,

1931
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,920
collected, you know, voice of reason and whatnot,

1932
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:43,520
>> you know, and would like town there in

1933
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:47,360
case there's any um discussions, you

1934
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:49,760
know, because it's ARPA. I keep saying

1935
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,800
ARPA. It's APR,

1936
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:54,480
>> APR, APR.

1937
01:12:54,480 --> 01:12:56,640
>> So, there's different rules for

1938
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,120
permitting, you know, for farmland,

1939
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:04,080
things like that. So, you know, we need

1940
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:07,440
Tom's input, you know, also or, you

1941
01:13:07,440 --> 01:13:10,640
know, to be able to possibly take away

1942
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:12,480
and look into something.

1943
01:13:12,480 --> 01:13:13,040
>> Mhm.

1944
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:16,719
>> You know, cuz I cannot tell you anything

1945
01:13:16,719 --> 01:13:18,960
about a building regulation, nor would I

1946
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:21,840
even know who to suggest they go to

1947
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,880
other than call Tom. So instead of me

1948
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:27,679
sitting there and saying call Tom,

1949
01:13:27,679 --> 01:13:30,159
>> Tom is willing to, you know, sit down

1950
01:13:30,159 --> 01:13:32,640
and be part of this too.

1951
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:34,159
>> Obviously, it's going to be tricky

1952
01:13:34,159 --> 01:13:36,800
scheduling a time because

1953
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:39,679
>> many of us have day jobs, including the

1954
01:13:39,679 --> 01:13:40,640
homeowners.

1955
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:41,440
>> Y

1956
01:13:41,440 --> 01:13:47,590
>> um you know, so

1957
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:49,440
» Yes. So I deal with it all the time.

1958
01:13:49,440 --> 01:13:50,960
Chickens first time with a greenhouse

1959
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:54,080
but fences and property lines. So it you

1960
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:56,800
know to explain to people somehow it

1961
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:59,280
went to the boss the boss's level and

1962
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:00,719
I'm very appreciative that you know

1963
01:14:00,719 --> 01:14:02,480
you'll be there but I deal a lot of

1964
01:14:02,480 --> 01:14:04,239
times I'm deal with this and it's you

1965
01:14:04,239 --> 01:14:06,080
know I'm the mediator just trying to

1966
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:07,520
cool it off because otherwise it's going

1967
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,440
to get civil and you know two neighbors

1968
01:14:09,440 --> 01:14:11,600
like I said a lot of times it's a fence

1969
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:12,800
you know is it on the property where

1970
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:14,640
it's property line and I can't determine

1971
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:16,800
that. I can't, but to get them together

1972
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:18,400
and get them to cooperate at the end or

1973
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:21,679
get along is what I do dealing with, you

1974
01:14:21,679 --> 01:14:22,400
know,

1975
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:24,560
>> with whatever town it be. So, I'm just

1976
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:26,239
lucky that you're volunteering to help

1977
01:14:26,239 --> 01:14:28,880
too at a higher level and wish you

1978
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:30,800
didn't have to get involved because this

1979
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:32,560
usually I try not to get to this point.

1980
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:34,640
I'll just let the administrator know in

1981
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:36,400
case you hear about it that, you know,

1982
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:38,080
we're working on this and it gets taken

1983
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:40,159
care of. But, so I think it'll be fine.

1984
01:14:40,159 --> 01:14:40,880
It'll go well.

1985
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:42,560
>> Wonderful. I appreciate you being

1986
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:45,760
willing to to do that.

1987
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,080
Um, wonder do you have any questions on

1988
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:48,880
that one?

1989
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:50,320
>> I'm sure it's not the first time it's

1990
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:52,000
ever happened in the world. So, oh yeah,

1991
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:53,520
hopefully there'll be a solution.

1992
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:55,040
>> Yeah, I think it's the first time in

1993
01:14:55,040 --> 01:15:01,350
Sund.

1994
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:01,920
» Yeah, for sure.

1995
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:03,760
>> Well, thank you very much, Crystal, for

1996
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:04,480
being willing.

1997
01:15:04,480 --> 01:15:04,880
>> Yes.

1998
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:05,520
>> Yep.

1999
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:06,960
>> Appreciate it.

2000
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:09,120
>> Wonderful. And thank you, Tom.

2001
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:10,400
>> Yep. Thank you.

2002
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:10,960
>> All righty.

2003
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:12,080
>> Going over the pleasure.

2004
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:13,679
>> Absolutely. Thank you for making it easy

2005
01:15:13,679 --> 01:15:15,199
for us. We already mentioned that.

2006
01:15:15,199 --> 01:15:16,719
>> Have a great one.

2007
01:15:16,719 --> 01:15:18,640
>> All right. Uh, next up for old business

2008
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:21,280
board updates. Um, I, uh, don't have

2009
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:22,960
anything this week. Crystal, do you have

2010
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:23,280
anything?

2011
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:27,040
>> So, we had South County EMS. Um,

2012
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:29,840
obviously um, I think we're not doing

2013
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,159
this until the end of March. So, it's

2014
01:15:32,159 --> 01:15:34,480
still just working on the budget in

2015
01:15:34,480 --> 01:15:37,199
process. that new I knew that I know

2016
01:15:37,199 --> 01:15:39,679
last time I said as far as I knew the

2017
01:15:39,679 --> 01:15:42,080
new ambulance was here but it definitely

2018
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:48,719
is here. Um it's still in the process of

2019
01:15:48,719 --> 01:15:51,280
you know all the paperwork to actually

2020
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:53,040
get it on the road.

2021
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:55,920
>> Um but it's moving along.

2022
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:57,280
>> Did the I forget the name of them but

2023
01:15:57,280 --> 01:15:58,719
the the power lift systems that we

2024
01:15:58,719 --> 01:16:00,640
needed did those come in also or

2025
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:05,040
>> so that I I do not know. Um the update

2026
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:09,040
was that you know it's in the process of

2027
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:11,840
getting fully equipped to be ready for

2028
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:12,400
inspection.

2029
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:15,440
>> So essentially that would be part of the

2030
01:16:15,440 --> 01:16:17,199
>> of the equipment. I did not ask

2031
01:16:17,199 --> 01:16:18,400
specifically on the

2032
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:19,840
>> I'm just curious that's fine. Yeah.

2033
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:23,360
Okay. Anything else Crystal?

2034
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:24,320
>> Good.

2035
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:24,800
>> Wonderful.

2036
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:26,880
>> We met personnel committee tonight too.

2037
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:30,239
Um, but it was just, you know,

2038
01:16:30,239 --> 01:16:34,470
discussions on

2039
01:16:34,480 --> 01:16:36,000
we're not sure what to re start

2040
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:37,840
recommending for cola. So,

2041
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:39,040
>> of course not. You have to figure it

2042
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:40,000
out. That's the fun of it.

2043
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:40,640
>> Yep.

2044
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:42,080
>> All right. Uh, Dan, anything for us

2045
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:42,400
today?

2046
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:44,560
>> Just a reminder of the community forums

2047
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,640
for the South County Sheni Center. Yep.

2048
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:49,360
>> Tomorrow, 1:30 at the Sunderland Public

2049
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:53,280
Library and next Wednesday the 18th at 1

2050
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:55,600
p.m. at the Weightley Town Hall.

2051
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:57,600
Wonderful. looking forward to those.

2052
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:01,440
Thank you very much again. All right. Uh

2053
01:17:01,440 --> 01:17:03,760
Becky, town ministry updates. What do

2054
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:05,280
you got for us?

2055
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:08,480
>> Um I'm going to just leave you with one.

2056
01:17:08,480 --> 01:17:12,080
I am very excited. Um I will be seeing

2057
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:15,760
you all in person at our next meeting.

2058
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:17,920
And I just want to confirm with you that

2059
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:20,560
due to the holiday next Monday, we will

2060
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:23,199
be meeting on the 17th. instead of

2061
01:17:23,199 --> 01:17:25,520
Monday the 16th. We will be meeting on

2062
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:26,480
Tuesday.

2063
01:17:26,480 --> 01:17:26,880
>> Yep.

2064
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:28,480
>> Is that all right for everyone?

2065
01:17:28,480 --> 01:17:29,760
>> That was my understanding also. Crystal,

2066
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:31,199
Dan, you guys are good with that?

2067
01:17:31,199 --> 01:17:32,239
>> Yeah.

2068
01:17:32,239 --> 01:17:34,480
>> All righty. Indeed. We will see you on

2069
01:17:34,480 --> 01:17:36,480
Tuesday the 17th. Um and we're excited

2070
01:17:36,480 --> 01:17:37,360
about having you back. That's going to

2071
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:40,000
be wonderful to see you.

2072
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:43,040
>> Thank you so much. And you guys are all

2073
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:44,800
looking good on Zoom.

2074
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:48,560
>> Wonderful. All right. Um, in that case,

2075
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:51,040
at this time, there's no one waiting in

2076
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:53,040
Zoom or in person for public comment. We

2077
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:54,719
don't have any correspondents today. No

2078
01:17:54,719 --> 01:17:56,800
get session. So, I would entertain a

2079
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:58,080
motion to adjurnn.

2080
01:17:58,080 --> 01:17:59,040
>> Motion to adjurnn.

2081
01:17:59,040 --> 01:17:59,600
>> Second.

2082
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:00,880
>> All right, we have a motion made and

2083
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:02,560
seconded to adjurnn. All those in favor?

2084
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:06,560
>> I I three nothing. The time is 7:50.

2085
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:07,920
Thank you all. We will see you next

2086
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:10,480
Tuesday.