1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,120 So, we are calling to order. Uh, it is 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:07,839 5:05 p.m. on January 13, 2026. This is a 3 00:00:07,839 --> 00:00:09,440 meeting of the Central Elementary School 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:11,280 Committee. Uh, this meeting is being 5 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,240 recorded. Um, the first order on the the 6 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:15,759 first item on the agenda is to review 7 00:00:15,759 --> 00:00:17,920 and approve the minutes of October 21st, 8 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,830 2025. 9 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,080 We have a motion to approve. 10 00:00:24,080 --> 00:00:25,840 >> I'll make a motion to approve the 11 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,800 minutes. I will second the motion as the 12 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,920 note taker takes the notes. 13 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,200 >> Thank you. Is there any discussion of 14 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,840 those minutes? 15 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:37,920 >> Yeah. Uh so we need to do a roll call 16 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,239 vote because our committee members are 17 00:00:40,239 --> 00:00:42,960 um both online and in person. Um do you 18 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,160 want to call it off Amanda? Um for the 19 00:00:46,160 --> 00:00:47,680 notes Megan? 20 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:48,719 >> Yes. 21 00:00:48,719 --> 00:00:49,440 >> Joe? 22 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:50,079 >> Yes. 23 00:00:50,079 --> 00:00:51,840 >> Loi? 24 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,280 >> Yes. 25 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:53,920 >> Jessica? 26 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:54,559 >> Yes. 27 00:00:54,559 --> 00:00:57,520 >> Amanda? Yes. Okay, they are approved by 28 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,640 zero. Uh on to financial statements. 29 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,559 >> All right. Um 32 warrants were signed 30 00:01:04,559 --> 00:01:06,880 since the last meeting uh digitally 31 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:12,070 totaling $225,9461. 32 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,840 Um I sent you out the general fund 33 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,520 expense report. If you looked at that 34 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,600 and saw the teacher line has an overage, 35 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,759 it's about $121,000 36 00:01:19,759 --> 00:01:21,600 listed as an overage on that expense 37 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,159 report. I have my payroll staff looking 38 00:01:24,159 --> 00:01:26,000 into that. My hunch is that someone's on 39 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,920 the wrong funding source, which just 40 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,680 means that we need to move it internally 41 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,000 and then I have the town reallocate it 42 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,640 appropriately. Um, we definitely don't 43 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,840 have not even one extra teacher and that 44 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,840 would indicate possibly one and a half 45 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,000 extra teachers. There is some overage 46 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,560 that I've talked about already from our 47 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,240 placeholder and then the contract 48 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:47,600 settlement was a little bit high, but 49 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,079 it's certainly not to that degree. So, I 50 00:01:50,079 --> 00:01:51,759 am looking in that looking at that 51 00:01:51,759 --> 00:01:55,680 further on my end. Um, central office 52 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,439 benefits still need to be fully 53 00:01:57,439 --> 00:02:00,079 encumbered for the year. We've talked 54 00:02:00,079 --> 00:02:02,159 about the impact of health insurance 55 00:02:02,159 --> 00:02:04,159 primarily on our other towns and 56 00:02:04,159 --> 00:02:06,719 Frontier because Sunderland is with Maya 57 00:02:06,719 --> 00:02:09,200 and they did not have that October 1st 58 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,599 mid-year increase on insurance, but 59 00:02:11,599 --> 00:02:14,080 Sunderland does pay a portion of central 60 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,640 office benefits um based on the cost 61 00:02:16,640 --> 00:02:19,599 share agreement. So, we're going to 62 00:02:19,599 --> 00:02:21,520 exceed that budgeted amount. So, if you 63 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:22,959 look at that line right now, I believe 64 00:02:22,959 --> 00:02:25,280 it shows about 20,000 available. That's 65 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,200 going to go over this year. Um, I'm 66 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:28,800 working with my team on what the amount 67 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,959 to be encumbered is. So, hopefully we'll 68 00:02:30,959 --> 00:02:32,800 get that updated for next month. So, the 69 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,160 reason I'm sort of talking about those 70 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,080 two things is the bottom line budget 71 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,040 shows 110,000 available. That's not 72 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,120 really a true amount for us right now 73 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:42,720 because of those two changes that need 74 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,400 to be made. So, um, 75 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,280 110,000 is a little bit low for this 76 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,680 time of year. We still have a good 5 and 77 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,080 1/2 months to get through of purchases. 78 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,720 On the positive side, salaries and wages 79 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,480 are fully encumbered and with those 80 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,120 adjustments will recoup some of that. 81 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,040 Um, the primary reason I'm telling you 82 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,319 this is there's two pieces. One, we may 83 00:03:06,319 --> 00:03:08,080 be talking about the impact of this 84 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:09,760 year's budget on next year and whether 85 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,360 or not we need to look to capture any 86 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,360 savings. Um, once you see next year's 87 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:14,720 budget, you'll understand that a little 88 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,720 bit better. And then two, we have had um 89 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,120 one new student enroll at the school. 90 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,040 They're currently enrolled that does 91 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,599 have uh some higher needs. We thought we 92 00:03:25,599 --> 00:03:27,280 were going to have to hire a onetoone 93 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,840 IIA. Turns out that student is able to 94 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,159 bring the BCBA that it is a BCBA, right, 95 00:03:32,159 --> 00:03:34,000 that was working with them um a 96 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,560 contracted service provider externally 97 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,480 and we won't have to cover those costs. 98 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,640 The students insurance is going to cover 99 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,480 the cost of that BCBA. So there's no 100 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,400 additional cost for us there. Um, but 101 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,959 Bed did also learn recently that there 102 00:03:46,959 --> 00:03:49,599 may be siblings moving into district 103 00:03:49,599 --> 00:03:51,840 from a neighboring town that will have 104 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,760 an impact on our finances potentially 105 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:55,680 and the number of IAS that we need. 106 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,120 We're still talking about what that 107 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:58,959 looks like if they're really coming 108 00:03:58,959 --> 00:04:00,239 because they're not officially enrolled 109 00:04:00,239 --> 00:04:01,599 yet. Correct. 110 00:04:01,599 --> 00:04:05,360 >> Uh, paperwork has been collected. So 111 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,519 >> um and then you know talking with Darius 112 00:04:07,519 --> 00:04:09,760 closely between Ben and Darius and and 113 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,080 other staff on the ground here of can we 114 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,400 cover those needs with exist existing 115 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,320 staff. Are we going to need one new IIA 116 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,560 versus two and what does that look like? 117 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,160 So that has an impact in the current 118 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,960 year and next year assuming that those 119 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,600 students stay in district. So there's a 120 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,080 lot going on in Sunderland as usual. Um, 121 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:29,680 not as pretty of a picture as some of 122 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,720 the other schools, but you know, we're 123 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:37,280 not negative funds in the general 124 00:04:37,280 --> 00:04:39,840 fund yet. So, we'll we'll keep 125 00:04:39,840 --> 00:04:43,440 monitoring it closely 126 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,040 as we go through the next few months. 127 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,479 So, 128 00:04:46,479 --> 00:04:47,840 >> can you tell us a little bit about what 129 00:04:47,840 --> 00:04:49,600 circuit breaker reimbursement might look 130 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:50,320 like? 131 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,639 >> Um, regarding ones, 132 00:04:52,639 --> 00:04:55,360 >> I don't know. 133 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:56,479 I don't want to give you wrong 134 00:04:56,479 --> 00:04:59,040 information, but sorry, I have a little 135 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,240 bit of a cough from a lingering cold. 136 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:07,280 Um, I just sent an email about this. So, 137 00:05:07,280 --> 00:05:10,960 we will see about $55,000 for circuit 138 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,720 breaker in the current year. Um, I don't 139 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,039 think there's going to be 140 00:05:17,039 --> 00:05:19,520 any extraordinary relief, which we did 141 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,919 see last year. If your expenses go up 142 00:05:21,919 --> 00:05:23,600 suddenly, even though we have these 143 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,199 changes in student enrollment and their 144 00:05:25,199 --> 00:05:26,880 needs, I don't think we're going to hit 145 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,360 the threshold. We have to cover like the 146 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:33,520 first, say it's $45,000 of expenses. Um, 147 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,919 so we can potentially tap into circuit 148 00:05:35,919 --> 00:05:38,800 breaker to cover some of these needs uh 149 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,039 in the current year or talk about using 150 00:05:41,039 --> 00:05:43,440 that to help supplement next year 151 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,120 because we can roll it over to the next 152 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:50,710 year. So, 153 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:59,990 Are there other questions for Shelley? 154 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,909 » Thank you, Shelly. 155 00:06:03,919 --> 00:06:05,520 » Uh, principal's reports. 156 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,840 >> Great. So, we have a um, you know, I'm 157 00:06:07,840 --> 00:06:09,840 going back a couple months here since 158 00:06:09,840 --> 00:06:11,919 our last uh, school committee, 159 00:06:11,919 --> 00:06:13,120 Sunderland school committee was in 160 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,440 October. Then there was the joint one in 161 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,240 November and no meeting in December. So 162 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,080 again, going back a couple of months, on 163 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,800 Friday, November 7th, we held our annual 164 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,520 Veterans Day observance ceremony. Once 165 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,680 again, we had participation from the 166 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,319 local BFW, Post 3295 out of South 167 00:06:30,319 --> 00:06:31,840 Deerfield, and the color guard from 168 00:06:31,840 --> 00:06:35,199 UMass. Um, the guest speaker this year 169 00:06:35,199 --> 00:06:39,199 uh was Sunderland resident um and former 170 00:06:39,199 --> 00:06:41,360 Sunderland Elementary School parent uh 171 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,080 Lieutenant Colonel Steven Burgess. He's 172 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,720 with the Ma Massachusetts Air National 173 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,319 Guard at the 104th Fighter Wing um based 174 00:06:50,319 --> 00:06:52,639 at Barnes Air National Guard Base in 175 00:06:52,639 --> 00:06:55,440 Westfield. Um he's had uh quite the 176 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,000 distinguished career. Um multiple 177 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,680 deployments in support of different 178 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,840 operations. Uh he also served our 179 00:07:01,840 --> 00:07:04,240 community as a state police officer for 180 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,639 23 years. Part of his career he worked 181 00:07:06,639 --> 00:07:09,680 in the K9 unit and um brought his dog 182 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,240 here a few times to um interact with the 183 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:13,520 students. 184 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,680 Um, winter concert was held in December, 185 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,599 uh, the highlight year of celebrating 186 00:07:19,599 --> 00:07:22,479 our growth and successes. Um, it's 187 00:07:22,479 --> 00:07:24,960 really, um, incredible seeing the growth 188 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,479 of our musicians from that first, uh, 189 00:07:28,479 --> 00:07:30,880 lesson up until the concert in December, 190 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,840 then even more so in the spring. Um, our 191 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,680 music department is super dedicated and 192 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,440 um, it's just it's noticed and felt 193 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,440 every day. Led by a general music 194 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,919 teacher, Sue Matsui, band teacher Megan 195 00:07:43,919 --> 00:07:46,400 Carr, and strings teacher Mia 196 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:47,840 Freriedman. So, they put on a wonderful 197 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,800 winter concert for our families. Um, as 198 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,360 we've talked about in the past, um, we 199 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,479 hold monthly meetings, uh, all school 200 00:07:56,479 --> 00:07:59,120 meetings as a way to build community. Um 201 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:00,879 the December meeting was held on 202 00:08:00,879 --> 00:08:03,759 December 18th. That that was a Thursday 203 00:08:03,759 --> 00:08:06,639 hosted by grades three and four. So they 204 00:08:06,639 --> 00:08:10,160 co-led the meeting. Um they their focus 205 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,479 was on bravery. We also introduced a 206 00:08:12,479 --> 00:08:14,160 different character trait of the month. 207 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,240 Um December's character trait was 208 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:21,599 bravery. And um they highlighted youth 209 00:08:21,599 --> 00:08:24,160 uh throughout the world who um have 210 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,000 demonstrated bravery by making 211 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,280 significant impacts on um their own 212 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,039 surrounding communities and extended 213 00:08:33,039 --> 00:08:35,279 um upcoming events. We have our 214 00:08:35,279 --> 00:08:36,959 international night celebration 215 00:08:36,959 --> 00:08:40,320 scheduled for Thursday, January 22nd. 216 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,120 This longstanding Sunderland tradition 217 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,680 um is going from 5 to 7. starts off with 218 00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:49,040 a potluck meal, potluck dinner. Um, 219 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,320 families bring um food in that are 220 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,560 important to their own cultural 221 00:08:54,560 --> 00:08:57,920 heritage. Um, the group performing this 222 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,800 year is Pioneer Valley Performing Arts 223 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,720 Schools, um, African and Drum, African 224 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,839 drum and dance troop, WOFA. Um, so they 225 00:09:07,839 --> 00:09:09,839 are going to perform a, uh, do a 226 00:09:09,839 --> 00:09:11,760 presentation on International Night and 227 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,360 actually this Thursday they're coming to 228 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,200 the school as well. 229 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,560 and providing both um dance and drum 230 00:09:18,560 --> 00:09:21,279 workshops for students across all grade 231 00:09:21,279 --> 00:09:24,959 levels, pre-K through six, and then a 232 00:09:24,959 --> 00:09:27,120 having an all school assembly at the end 233 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,920 of the day on Thursday as well. We're 234 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:34,160 also using this um the SOPA uh was 235 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,600 created by um teacher and artist Alfa 236 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,800 Kabiscoco Cabba um also known as Bisco. 237 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,519 He's a a teacher at PVPA. 238 00:09:43,519 --> 00:09:45,120 And so we're using this as an 239 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,040 opportunity for extended learning 240 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,160 opportunities um uh of West African 241 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,800 culture and uh doing that a few 242 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:57,680 different ways. So say our cafeteria is 243 00:09:57,680 --> 00:10:01,519 actually um making a coconut rice 244 00:10:01,519 --> 00:10:04,399 pudding dish which is a popular dessert 245 00:10:04,399 --> 00:10:06,160 throughout the world um in many 246 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,720 different cultures but um in West 247 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,279 African uh countries as well. And then 248 00:10:11,279 --> 00:10:14,320 our specials teachers are providing 249 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,079 extended learning activities whether 250 00:10:16,079 --> 00:10:20,079 it's through stories, um art, music, 251 00:10:20,079 --> 00:10:23,040 games. Um earlier this week, our PE 252 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,480 teacher, uh Christa Merrill was playing 253 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,920 Mamba Tag, um so snake tag and um she 254 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:31,920 needed to make it clear that although 255 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,320 the snake is poisonous, the tag game is 256 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,680 not um for the kids. So, uh, yeah. So, 257 00:10:37,680 --> 00:10:40,640 lots of great things happening and, um, 258 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,079 we're excited for the upcoming events. 259 00:10:44,079 --> 00:10:48,710 >> Yeah. Any questions? 260 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,480 » Thanks, Ben. Do we have anybody for 261 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,320 public comment? There is nobody in 262 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,480 person, only members of the public 263 00:10:54,480 --> 00:11:01,030 online. 264 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:02,880 Like a no. Uh, we have no unfinished 265 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,720 business. We do have new business. um a 266 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:12,949 budget uh preview. 267 00:11:12,959 --> 00:11:15,760 » Darius is going to share a screen. I'll 268 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,240 send you out the slide deck tomorrow. 269 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,640 That way you have it for your records. 270 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:25,990 >> I sent it to Joe so that you have it 271 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,200 » just a minute ago. So it's probably in 272 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:27,760 your inbox. 273 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:28,800 >> All right. Thank you. 274 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:34,069 >> Yep. Sorry. Present. 275 00:11:34,079 --> 00:11:36,480 All right. So, first draft of our 276 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,440 budget. Um, town meeting for Sunderland 277 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,680 is in April. So, the timeline for 278 00:11:41,680 --> 00:11:43,519 Sunderland is a little bit more crunch 279 00:11:43,519 --> 00:11:46,000 than some of the other towns. But, um, 280 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,240 we'll take a deep dive at the first 281 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,480 draft. Usually, this is sort of a quick 282 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,000 little preview and then we get much more 283 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,519 into it in February. But, there's a lot 284 00:11:53,519 --> 00:11:55,600 to talk about tonight. Um, so the first 285 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:56,560 thing we're going to talk about is what 286 00:11:56,560 --> 00:11:58,640 the level service budget presents as. 287 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,560 So, just as a reminder, and especially 288 00:12:00,560 --> 00:12:01,920 because we have so many folks online 289 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:03,200 that may not have heard the budget 290 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,680 presentation before, uh, level service 291 00:12:05,680 --> 00:12:08,000 budget takes the existing staffing and 292 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,720 existing programs from the current year, 293 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,639 plops them into the new year, and then 294 00:12:12,639 --> 00:12:14,639 we develop the budget from there, 295 00:12:14,639 --> 00:12:16,639 including cost of living adjustments for 296 00:12:16,639 --> 00:12:19,760 the contract and any other um non-wage 297 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,519 expenditures that we know are going to 298 00:12:21,519 --> 00:12:24,320 have an increase. So the first pass at 299 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,399 the budget considering all of those 300 00:12:26,399 --> 00:12:28,399 factors brings us in with level service 301 00:12:28,399 --> 00:12:31,040 at 7.67% 302 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,720 just shy of $300,000 gross. The 303 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,560 categories on the screen are the 304 00:12:36,560 --> 00:12:38,720 categories that you see in your monthly 305 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,800 expense reports. So those are set by 306 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,079 DESIE and they dictate where um staff 307 00:12:44,079 --> 00:12:46,480 and expenditures fall within the budget. 308 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,800 So instruction is primarily related to 309 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,440 anyone exactly what it sounds like on 310 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,160 the ground in the building teachers IAS 311 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:55,920 um principal 312 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,800 any other school-based staff secretaries 313 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,279 those kind of positions uh so there is a 314 00:13:01,279 --> 00:13:03,200 significant level of growth here that is 315 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,079 primarily related or or solely related I 316 00:13:06,079 --> 00:13:08,720 should say to cost of living adjustments 317 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,120 whether it's for our contracted staff or 318 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,320 non-contracted staff. Student services 319 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,800 uh is your health office. So any nursing 320 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,279 staff as well as transportation. There's 321 00:13:19,279 --> 00:13:21,360 some other minor expenses in there, but 322 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,920 those are the two big drivers. Uh 323 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,000 operations and maintenance is exactly 324 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,240 what it sounds like. Building and IT 325 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,760 related. Administration is school 326 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,760 committee, business office, and 327 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,399 superintendent's office. Benefits and 328 00:13:36,399 --> 00:13:38,560 insurance is also self-explanatory, but 329 00:13:38,560 --> 00:13:40,160 I want to point out here and make clear 330 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,240 for everyone is that benefits only 331 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,480 pertains to central office when it comes 332 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,040 to Sunderland's budget. The town covers 333 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,760 benefits for all school-based employees. 334 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:51,279 So, when we're talking about benefits 335 00:13:51,279 --> 00:13:53,360 and insurance, we're only talking about 336 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,279 Sunderland's portion of central office 337 00:13:55,279 --> 00:13:57,760 costs for healthcare. Out of district 338 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,480 placement, also self-explanatory. 339 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:01,920 So, we're going to break this down in 340 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:03,839 the next few slides of where that growth 341 00:14:03,839 --> 00:14:06,720 is coming from in the 7.67%. 342 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,320 First piece we're going to talk about is 343 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:13,600 our wage obligation. So, of the 7.67%, 344 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,800 5.02 is related to wage obligations, 345 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,199 about $180,000. 346 00:14:19,199 --> 00:14:22,399 The left side of the screen outlines 347 00:14:22,399 --> 00:14:24,320 what we have in as placeholders for 348 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,000 anyone who's non-union. Uh principal, uh 349 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,760 assistant principal, secretary, 350 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,480 custodian, cafeteria, any other 351 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,199 contracted staff for central office that 352 00:14:35,199 --> 00:14:37,040 Sunderland pays a portion of. That's all 353 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:38,800 been taken into consideration in the 354 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,199 level service budget. On the right hand 355 00:14:41,199 --> 00:14:44,079 side of the slide, 356 00:14:44,079 --> 00:14:47,920 you can see um the growth from the unit 357 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,959 A and the unit C contract. For unit A, 358 00:14:50,959 --> 00:14:54,320 the top step is receiving a 4% COLA. If 359 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:55,839 you are stepping, you're going to 360 00:14:55,839 --> 00:14:58,880 receive 3% COLA plus the step averages 361 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,120 about 3.22%. 362 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,120 And then we do have four faculty who are 363 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:04,959 advancing column. So they've furthered 364 00:15:04,959 --> 00:15:06,880 their degree. They're moving up on the 365 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,639 salary schedule as far as column 366 00:15:08,639 --> 00:15:11,360 placement. those staff depending on the 367 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,160 column movement and the step they're in 368 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,560 the total increase varies whether it's 369 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,199 6% or 9% there's some range in there 370 00:15:19,199 --> 00:15:22,240 some around 7% so it really just depends 371 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,120 on where you are in the salary schedule 372 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,600 and then um there's minimal growth on 373 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,880 unit C and 374 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,120 it's not that unit C is not receiving 375 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,839 wage increases all of our unit C 376 00:15:35,839 --> 00:15:38,480 employees will receive a 5 and a half% 377 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,720 because there's a 2 and a half% cola 378 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,680 plus a 3% step. We added a new step. So, 379 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,079 everyone is moving up. It really just 380 00:15:46,079 --> 00:15:48,160 depends on how those positions are 381 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,240 funded and where we may have funded them 382 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,320 from the prior year. It's always a 383 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,040 moving target in this category. 384 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,839 And then we did increase summer stipens 385 00:15:57,839 --> 00:16:01,519 um by about $9,000 based on actual wages 386 00:16:01,519 --> 00:16:03,199 for the current year and the structure 387 00:16:03,199 --> 00:16:05,360 that we had in summer programs. were 388 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,360 over budget slightly in that line item 389 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:08,880 currently and the structure is going to 390 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,360 remain the same moving forward. So of 391 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,279 the 7.67% 392 00:16:13,279 --> 00:16:15,199 the most significant component for 393 00:16:15,199 --> 00:16:18,720 Sunderland is wages. Um part of that I 394 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,480 didn't mention this already in talking 395 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,959 about uh primarily the unit pay wages. 396 00:16:24,959 --> 00:16:26,480 Part of that is in the current year like 397 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,800 I just mentioned we had a placeholder in 398 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,880 for FY26 when we were doing our 399 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,440 negotiations. We settled our contract 400 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,680 after the budget was already set. So, 401 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,839 we're making up for some portion of that 402 00:16:37,839 --> 00:16:40,000 in the new year because it wasn't 403 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,120 budgeted. So, um all it's a little bit 404 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,800 deceiving of what those numbers look 405 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,639 like, but it is an actual increase to 406 00:16:46,639 --> 00:16:49,920 cost. The next slide shows our non-wage 407 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,720 obligations. There's two factors being 408 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,160 attributed here. One is transportation 409 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,839 which other than a minimal increase for 410 00:16:59,839 --> 00:17:02,560 cola based on the contract the the 411 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,640 growth in student services for 412 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,480 transportation costs is primarily 413 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,720 related to a funding source change. So 414 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,799 in the current year we use rural aid to 415 00:17:10,799 --> 00:17:12,959 supplement the budget. 416 00:17:12,959 --> 00:17:15,600 Um I always back that out so that we can 417 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,520 have the conversation about how to use 418 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,160 rural aid particularly this year. it 419 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:21,919 could come into play if we actually do 420 00:17:21,919 --> 00:17:24,000 need multiple IAS where we have to use 421 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,520 that to help fund the current year 422 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,480 budget. Um I anticipate that at a 423 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,039 minimum some portion even if it's 424 00:17:31,039 --> 00:17:34,000 $20,000 of our rural aid allocation will 425 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,400 go to help supplement the budget. So 426 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,720 that growth will drop down slightly, but 427 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,240 I want you to see what that funding 428 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:41,919 source looks like should we not have 429 00:17:41,919 --> 00:17:44,240 those funds available. It is not a 430 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,200 consistent guaranteed streamlined. We 431 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,440 saw that this year in where we were 432 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,080 promised consistent growth and there was 433 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,840 a reduction at the state level. So I 434 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,640 just want us to be aware of that 435 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,720 there is real growth under benefits and 436 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,559 insurance for the central office portion 437 00:18:00,559 --> 00:18:02,400 of the health insurance that Sunderland 438 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:06,400 covers. Um similar theme we had a 101 439 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,400 increase of central office insurance 440 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:09,919 benefits because they fall under 441 00:18:09,919 --> 00:18:11,760 Frontiers insurance plan which is 442 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:13,760 through Hampshire County Group Insurance 443 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,720 Trust. That 20% growth that came in on 444 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,600 101 is unbudgeted, so we're having to 445 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,760 cover that in our new budget. Plus, 446 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,679 we're projecting a growth for central 447 00:18:23,679 --> 00:18:25,520 office health insurance benefits again 448 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:29,360 in the new year of 20%. Um, I will say 449 00:18:29,360 --> 00:18:32,240 this that it again it does not cover 450 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,080 school employees. I know I mentioned 451 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,480 that already, but I just want to hone in 452 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,880 on that point because 453 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:40,960 we're hearing rumors that Maya is going 454 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,400 to have an increase of somewhere 15 20% 455 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,559 as well, which means that the town costs 456 00:18:46,559 --> 00:18:48,720 are going to go up. Um, so it's a 457 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,880 minimal hit here, but a larger hit to 458 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,840 the town's overall budget. 459 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,480 Um, next couple slides, uh, we are going 460 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,240 to look at grants and revolving funds 461 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,120 and then total budget. So, grant and 462 00:19:01,120 --> 00:19:03,440 revolving funds, uh, there's a slight 463 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,840 dip here. I didn't put in any circuit 464 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,559 breaker allocation. Um, we can talk 465 00:19:08,559 --> 00:19:10,160 about what that looks like. As Jessica 466 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,200 asked, we have about $54,000 available, 467 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:14,960 whether we have to use some of that in 468 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,240 26. We use it all in 27 or we carry over 469 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,520 some of it to um the next year. We can 470 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,360 add that fund those funds back in and 471 00:19:23,360 --> 00:19:25,280 then we can apply some rural aid should 472 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:26,960 we choose to do that as well. So, we'll 473 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,120 continue that conversation as we go 474 00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:30,320 through the process, but that's 475 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:31,919 primarily why there's a dip because I 476 00:19:31,919 --> 00:19:34,720 did not allocate for any rural aid. Um, 477 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,960 expenditures otherwise are remaining 478 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:41,120 relatively steady for revolving funds. 479 00:19:41,120 --> 00:19:43,520 Next slide shows the total budget uh 480 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,760 which comes in at about 4 and a half 481 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,720 $4.4 million. Uh, you can see the total 482 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,559 general fund plus the revolving funds 483 00:19:50,559 --> 00:19:52,880 there which is a growth um of a couple 484 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,720 hundred thousand from the prior year. 485 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,960 level service budget per student costs. 486 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,919 We're coming in at 175 students, almost 487 00:20:01,919 --> 00:20:03,760 the same as the prior year. This is 488 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,640 based on 101 enrollment. So, when when 489 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,400 Ben and Darius and I looked over the 490 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,160 projections, those numbers have already 491 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,000 changed since 101, whether we've had 492 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,480 students come or go. Um, but the way 493 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,039 that the state handles uh chapter 70 494 00:20:17,039 --> 00:20:18,640 reimbursement and any other kind of 495 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,240 reimbursement, it's based on that 496 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:24,559 October 1 deadline. Uh, so just shy of 497 00:20:24,559 --> 00:20:28,480 25,500 per pupil per student. 498 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,039 >> What's that? 499 00:20:31,039 --> 00:20:32,960 >> Why do I Can I ask a quick question? So 500 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,200 it's 25,000 center elementary school. 501 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,159 What is it at Frontier per It's a lot 502 00:20:38,159 --> 00:20:39,360 lower, right? 503 00:20:39,360 --> 00:20:40,320 >> Um, no, it's not. 504 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,760 >> It's about the same. It's still 25 27. 505 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,640 >> Okay. 506 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,080 >> Secondary is usually higher. 507 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,600 >> Okay. 508 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:50,720 >> State funding is higher. 509 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:51,919 >> Yeah. I didn't know it kind of is a 510 00:20:51,919 --> 00:20:52,720 scale like I 511 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:58,789 >> thought 512 00:20:58,799 --> 00:21:01,120 I'm just making programs for secondary 513 00:21:01,120 --> 00:21:03,760 students. 514 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,280 >> Okay. 515 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,440 Next piece of our puzzle is going to be 516 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,360 to talk about principal's requests. And 517 00:21:09,360 --> 00:21:11,840 when I say principal's requests, um the 518 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,240 next slide demonstrates it's principal's 519 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,720 needs, not necessarily requests. uh 520 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,000 because we are going to talk about the 521 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,799 impact of those three students that are 522 00:21:20,799 --> 00:21:23,840 coming in uh potentially this year. Uh 523 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,000 so the next slide grows our budget by an 524 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,000 additional $120,000 525 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:32,320 of which $105,000 is projected for um 526 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,000 possible three new instructional 527 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,720 assistants and that is based on IEP and 528 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,080 student needs for new students uh that 529 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,720 are residents of Sunderland. The other 530 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,600 requests are minimal, about $15,000, 531 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,919 which is about half a percentage point. 532 00:21:47,919 --> 00:21:49,679 So, it does make a difference in the 533 00:21:49,679 --> 00:21:52,080 budget. Uh, but you can see it's minor 534 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,080 to each of those lines. And this is 535 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,440 really just based on cost of services, 536 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,320 our cost of goods. Um, building general 537 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:01,840 repairs, I don't have to tell any of 538 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,960 you, we have deferred maintenance on our 539 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,720 building for years and years and years. 540 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,799 We have grown that budget slightly over 541 00:22:08,799 --> 00:22:10,960 time. I don't think we did last year, 542 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,679 but the year before. So, we're trying to 543 00:22:13,679 --> 00:22:15,520 ease a little bit more money in there 544 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,600 and the cost of repairs is going up. 545 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,320 Contractors are costing more. Um, same 546 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,000 with general supplies, contracted 547 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,720 services, and then curriculum. We are 548 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,640 talking with uh Laura Ramsey, our 549 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,559 curriculum director, about uh the 550 00:22:28,559 --> 00:22:30,640 possibility of covering the curriculum 551 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,559 supplies or general supply increases 552 00:22:32,559 --> 00:22:34,960 with um a grant or another funding 553 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,720 source. So, we can pull that money off 554 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,679 of here. But if we could really have all 555 00:22:39,679 --> 00:22:41,600 of the needs, this would be what the 556 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,960 true cost is. So, our level service uh 557 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,640 plus principal request, which I'll give 558 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,039 that caveat again, it's not really 559 00:22:49,039 --> 00:22:50,880 request, it's me, because we're talking 560 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,320 about meeting the needs of our students. 561 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,320 We have an obligation to provide special 562 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,120 education services where required per 563 00:22:57,120 --> 00:22:59,600 IEP. So, this is a little bit different 564 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,840 than us saying, "We don't have a math 565 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,520 interventionist in Sunderland. We would 566 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,679 really like a math interventionist." uh 567 00:23:05,679 --> 00:23:07,280 it's a different conversation when we're 568 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:08,960 talking about our requirements for 569 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,159 special education. So, we are looking at 570 00:23:12,159 --> 00:23:16,400 just shy of $400,000 or just over 11% 571 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,000 with the level service plus the 572 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,549 principal's budget. 573 00:23:22,559 --> 00:23:24,880 Next slide shows uh general fund 574 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,360 historical information. I did put some 575 00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:29,440 notes on here just as reminders, not 576 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,600 even for myself but for all of us of why 577 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,320 we had these couple of years that were 578 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,400 um a little bit higher than the 3 three 579 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,000 and a half%. So in 2024 580 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,720 um we adjusted facilities expenditures 581 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,360 some based on actuals but also to grow 582 00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:47,600 that maintenance budget a little bit and 583 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,600 then we added a school adjustment 584 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,600 counselor position at $60,000 which am I 585 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,320 remembering right that that position no 586 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,000 that was the educational team lead that 587 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,520 became your vice principal position so 588 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,480 you still have this position um in the 589 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,240 building and then uh last year we had or 590 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,480 2025 I'm Sorry, last year, not last 591 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,480 year, 2025, we had an increase in the 592 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,720 transportation contract. That was due to 593 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,799 our bid and our contract renewal. It was 594 00:24:14,799 --> 00:24:16,480 not actually increased services for 595 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,480 transportation, just the growth in the 596 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,080 contract. 597 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,799 Last year, we did add one new IIA 598 00:24:22,799 --> 00:24:28,480 position. Um, what I will say here is, 599 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,480 nope, I'm going to speak and I'm going 600 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:31,760 to be wrong. So, I'm going to take that 601 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,000 back. I didn't say anything. I was 602 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,799 thinking about the 22 that we didn't end 603 00:24:36,799 --> 00:24:39,840 up filming this year. Um, so we did add 604 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,000 the one new IIA position last year. So 605 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,440 we have 21 IAS in the budget. So you can 606 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,200 see historically Sunderland has 607 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,960 fluctuated I think a little bit more 608 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,640 than some of the other elementary 609 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,120 schools, but we have advocated for some 610 00:24:53,120 --> 00:24:54,720 needs. If you remember with the school 611 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,159 adjustment counselor, that was a 612 00:24:56,159 --> 00:24:58,880 multi-year conversation um where we 613 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,720 really fought to add that position to 614 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,960 the building. Um, and then 2026, you 615 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,200 know, even at 3.71 without adding a new 616 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,360 position, that's not a terrible 617 00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:11,360 increase. 618 00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:14,480 Uh, projected enrollment is on the next 619 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,279 slide. We're looking to be roughly the 620 00:25:17,279 --> 00:25:20,000 same next year. Uh, kindergarten is 621 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,159 always a point of conversation for us 622 00:25:22,159 --> 00:25:24,000 based on the census and what we know 623 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,559 right now. We're looking at about 19 624 00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:28,799 students in kindergarten. We don't 625 00:25:28,799 --> 00:25:31,039 expect that'll stay the same. It rarely 626 00:25:31,039 --> 00:25:33,360 does in Sunderland and there could be 627 00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:35,520 conversation about needing a second 628 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,919 classroom. So let's talk about that a 629 00:25:37,919 --> 00:25:40,960 little bit further. The current budget 630 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,679 has 12 grade level teachers in it 631 00:25:43,679 --> 00:25:45,600 because we have two sections of 632 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,320 kindergarten currently. In this model of 633 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,720 projection, you can see under K, there 634 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,279 is only one section of kindergarten. The 635 00:25:53,279 --> 00:25:55,440 odds of us staying there are really low. 636 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,159 we're going to need that um additional 637 00:25:58,159 --> 00:26:00,159 grade level teacher for kindergarten. 638 00:26:00,159 --> 00:26:01,919 However, I wanted to demonstrate based 639 00:26:01,919 --> 00:26:04,000 on the data that we have right now. So, 640 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,520 that could change by our February 641 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,039 meeting where we're sliding that 642 00:26:07,039 --> 00:26:08,320 additional teacher back into 643 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,360 kindergarten. Um, alternatively, you 644 00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:14,000 know, if nothing comes to fruition, we 645 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,919 could essentially drop a teaching 646 00:26:15,919 --> 00:26:18,080 position. Um, which is always a little 647 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,520 bit of a risk here in Sunderland and 648 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,200 part of our conversation because we have 649 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,120 such a fluid community compared to some 650 00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:25,360 of the other elementary schools. So, at 651 00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:28,799 this point, the second K teacher is 652 00:26:28,799 --> 00:26:31,279 still in the budget. Um, I just wanted 653 00:26:31,279 --> 00:26:32,799 you to see enrollment wise what the 654 00:26:32,799 --> 00:26:36,470 numbers look like. 655 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,880 And finally, on the last slide, uh, just 656 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,039 ongoing topics of conversation, thing 657 00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:43,039 that things that we're talking about 658 00:26:43,039 --> 00:26:45,520 internally as an administration and 659 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,520 things that we will need your input on. 660 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,600 We're not necessarily 661 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,360 um looking for advice or decisions or or 662 00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:55,520 um movement moving from this meeting, 663 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,520 but next month there will be some more 664 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,039 conversations for us to make some 665 00:26:59,039 --> 00:27:01,760 decisions. So, we're at about 11% 666 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,760 increase for level service and principal 667 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,480 budget. 1% budget growth is almost 668 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,919 $36,000. So, to put that in perspective, 669 00:27:09,919 --> 00:27:13,840 it's about an IIA position at 1%. Uh we 670 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,880 have 27.5 unit A members in the 671 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,480 building, 21 IAS at level service or 24 672 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,960 with the new request which is the 11% 673 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,080 increase. I am concerned about early 674 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,640 childhood revenues. Uh if you remember, 675 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,559 I think in September I shared that we 676 00:27:30,559 --> 00:27:32,320 ended the year with a negative balance 677 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,559 in early childhood. We had to balance 678 00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:35,919 that out with school choice money 679 00:27:35,919 --> 00:27:38,480 because it's our only option for quote 680 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,559 unquote free cash. 681 00:27:40,559 --> 00:27:42,559 Um I am expecting that we're going to 682 00:27:42,559 --> 00:27:45,120 have to do some of that again this year. 683 00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:47,360 How much is still being determined and 684 00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:50,480 some of that uh comes to fruition if we 685 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,360 have midyear you know students that turn 686 00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:55,919 age three that might be getting special 687 00:27:55,919 --> 00:27:58,480 education services through reach and are 688 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,320 now eligible to come into the building. 689 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,240 So some of that is still a moving target 690 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,240 for us. Um school choice revolving funds 691 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,279 expenses are exceeding revenues. This is 692 00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:11,440 typical conversation in Sunderland. We 693 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,120 talk a lot about school choice in the 694 00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:16,080 budget process. However, 695 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,000 with the school shrinking and some of 696 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,679 the changes we've made, if you go back 697 00:28:19,679 --> 00:28:22,480 to the enrollment slide, not all of our 698 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,640 enrollment has two sections anymore. 699 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,960 It's very limited, which means our 700 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,640 opportunities for growth in school 701 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,799 choice enrollments is minimal, which 702 00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:33,919 means our revenue growth is minimal. So, 703 00:28:33,919 --> 00:28:36,480 um, when we have outgoing sixth graders, 704 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,640 that really creates our opportunity to 705 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,679 bring in new students, um, potentially 706 00:28:41,679 --> 00:28:44,480 with the new class moving up. But if you 707 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,200 look even one year from now, the fifth 708 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,760 grade will be at 21 with the existing or 709 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,200 the sixth grade, I'm sorry, will be at 710 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,440 21 with the existing three school 711 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,360 choice. There's not a lot of opportunity 712 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,679 for growth there once those four current 713 00:28:57,679 --> 00:29:01,520 sixth graders go out. So, um, it really 714 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,360 is it it's a positive thing to right 715 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,279 side our budget as our community 716 00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:09,840 changes, but it also limits the amount 717 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,679 of school choice students that we can 718 00:29:11,679 --> 00:29:13,840 capture, which has an impact on us 719 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,000 because then it means that we may not 720 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,919 necessarily be able to cut the staffing 721 00:29:17,919 --> 00:29:20,159 that's being paid from school choice. 722 00:29:20,159 --> 00:29:21,679 So, that's where the hardship comes in 723 00:29:21,679 --> 00:29:23,039 if we have to roll something onto 724 00:29:23,039 --> 00:29:24,000 budget. 725 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,200 >> Well, it's really interesting. I need to 726 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,960 go 14 217 19 27 727 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,919 >> switch that one. 728 00:29:31,919 --> 00:29:36,720 >> Yeah. So there's fiveyear plan it's up 729 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,000 and down. Up and down. 730 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,640 >> Yeah. 731 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,960 >> And those class those one classrooms for 732 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,240 next year tight. You get 18 19 21. 733 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,200 >> Yeah. 734 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,159 >> Aside from our current fifth grade group 735 00:29:50,159 --> 00:29:53,440 tight. And then in a few years, you 736 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,279 know, when those cur when those fourth 737 00:29:55,279 --> 00:29:58,880 graders for 27 and 29 become sixth 738 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,760 graders, we could have the conversation, 739 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,159 do we do reduce the next grade level 740 00:30:04,159 --> 00:30:06,480 down to one, but then you have a larger 741 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,039 class coming up for second grade. So, it 742 00:30:09,039 --> 00:30:11,520 is a moving target. I think eventually 743 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,000 we will end up with one section at each 744 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,840 grade level, which really impacts the 745 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,679 school choice further. So, we're going 746 00:30:17,679 --> 00:30:20,960 to have to look closely at 747 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,919 staffing compared to enrollment and and 748 00:30:23,919 --> 00:30:26,720 see what the impact is um to make some 749 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:27,919 decisions moving forward. 750 00:30:27,919 --> 00:30:31,760 >> 3K, early educate, early childhood 27, 751 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,840 but that's third and fourth the three 752 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,320 and four, right? Third, four. So, it's 753 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,159 hard to know what the breakdown probably 754 00:30:38,159 --> 00:30:40,720 three. And what's our retention using 755 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,480 prek? Do we keep mostly the ones that 756 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,360 come to prek? They stay here. 757 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:46,799 We usually keep the Sunderland 758 00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:49,039 residents, but our prek will bring in 759 00:30:49,039 --> 00:30:51,120 others from other towns. Yeah. 760 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:56,080 >> Yeah. And of the current um anticipated 761 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,240 19 kindergarters, 762 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,679 um it's looking like one is would be 763 00:31:01,679 --> 00:31:05,039 school choice uh sibling 764 00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:06,000 at this point. 765 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,600 >> When does this committee vote on school 766 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,600 choice for next year? 767 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:10,880 >> Um next month. 768 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:15,190 >> Okay. 769 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,440 let's flip back to the um info and 770 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,440 ongoing topics. The last slide, please. 771 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,679 serious. 772 00:31:21,679 --> 00:31:22,880 I think you know the only thing I want 773 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,159 to say about school choice before we 774 00:31:24,159 --> 00:31:26,960 move that is some people one would 775 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,960 question like why do we end up having 776 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,600 numbers like 27 when we could have 777 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,399 reduced at that time and just there's 778 00:31:34,399 --> 00:31:38,159 these numbers change so much because of 779 00:31:38,159 --> 00:31:40,640 you know of the 780 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,320 people coming and going from Sunderland 781 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,720 and so there's a lot more um movement at 782 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,480 Sunderland than you know other 783 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,480 elementary schools and so I just want to 784 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:49,919 state that that that's not the number 785 00:31:49,919 --> 00:31:52,000 that started in first grade as for 786 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,919 resident stuff. That's I know you folks 787 00:31:53,919 --> 00:31:55,600 probably know this, but for anybody 788 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:56,240 listening like 789 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,919 >> well this is next year's um 790 00:31:59,919 --> 00:32:02,880 >> class and this that next year's um 791 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,880 second grade started off as one class in 792 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,799 kindergarten and we had you know a bunch 793 00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:08,320 of families move into town. 794 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:08,799 >> Right. 795 00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:09,360 >> So, 796 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,200 >> right. Yeah. There's a story behind 797 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,960 those numbers because if you looked at 798 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,480 it and say, well, why didn't you just, 799 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,080 you know, why don't you just get rid of 800 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,600 seven and you could have one teacher 801 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,760 here, right? It would make sense. But 802 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,440 that's not how it evolved. There's a 803 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,679 story behind those things because if 804 00:32:23,679 --> 00:32:25,200 someone looks at this alone, they would 805 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,159 say this is proper poor management, you 806 00:32:28,159 --> 00:32:30,480 know, because you have two sections when 807 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:31,760 you only have, you know, you shouldn't 808 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,039 have taken school choice. But it didn't 809 00:32:33,039 --> 00:32:34,960 evolve that way. I just want to say 810 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,960 there's a story there because when I 811 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,080 look at those numbers like what are we 812 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,519 doing, you know, but then you remember 813 00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:43,509 that how we got there. 814 00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:46,159 » Okay. Um rural aid, I did mention this 815 00:32:46,159 --> 00:32:48,640 already. uh we may have the potential to 816 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,640 use this 57,000 or 47,000. That is a 817 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,159 drop. In the current year, we're using 818 00:32:54,159 --> 00:32:57,279 about 65,000. So, this is a decrease in 819 00:32:57,279 --> 00:33:00,159 rural aid for us. However, it would be 820 00:33:00,159 --> 00:33:03,360 1.3% which makes a big difference. So, 821 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,279 um we'll have to make that decision at 822 00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:07,279 some point. I would I would like to sit 823 00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:09,039 on that and give us a little bit more 824 00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:12,960 time looking at um you know these 825 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,480 potential new enrollments and what the 826 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,440 impact for the current year is. Um but I 827 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,039 would expect that we can use at least 828 00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:21,200 some of that money to help supplement 829 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,679 next year. Um sick buyback is minimal. 830 00:33:25,679 --> 00:33:28,720 Um and the retirement is happening 831 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,919 midyear next year. So while we were 832 00:33:31,919 --> 00:33:33,519 notified 833 00:33:33,519 --> 00:33:36,000 and we have to pay it in fiscal year 27, 834 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,120 it's not being paid in July and it's a 835 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,200 insignificant amount compared to what it 836 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,799 has been in prior years when we've been 837 00:33:42,799 --> 00:33:45,679 paying out two or three teachers. So I 838 00:33:45,679 --> 00:33:47,679 wouldn't recommend right now that we put 839 00:33:47,679 --> 00:33:49,840 this anywhere in our budget. I would 840 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,399 recommend that it's on our radar and we 841 00:33:52,399 --> 00:33:54,960 talk about it as we go through the next 842 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,519 school year. We could use next year's 843 00:33:57,519 --> 00:34:00,960 relay allocation even at 47,000 if we 844 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,399 had to take 10 out of it for sick 845 00:34:02,399 --> 00:34:03,840 buyback. We would still have one 846 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,480 percentage point to apply to the budget. 847 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,079 We could also look at other funding 848 00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:10,240 sources. Um there may also be budget 849 00:34:10,240 --> 00:34:12,960 savings next year from vacancies or 850 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,879 personnel changes that we can capture 851 00:34:14,879 --> 00:34:18,240 that money from. Um, and we're fortunate 852 00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:19,760 this year that we're not having to go to 853 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,159 the town to ask for an additional 854 00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:23,839 warrant article, which is what we have 855 00:34:23,839 --> 00:34:25,839 done in prior years to cover sick 856 00:34:25,839 --> 00:34:28,320 buyback. So maybe that's beneficial for 857 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,480 us because all in all, the school's 858 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,480 portion of the town's budget, even if 859 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,159 we're asking on a separate warrant, it's 860 00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:37,679 still for school funding. So maybe 861 00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:40,159 that'll help us fund this budget at a 862 00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:42,720 little bit higher percentage point. So 863 00:34:42,720 --> 00:34:44,800 retire, someone's going to retire midway 864 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,960 next year or we pay them midway. 865 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,159 >> Um, they're retired mid year. 866 00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:49,839 >> So does that mean we have to replace 867 00:34:49,839 --> 00:34:50,399 midy year? 868 00:34:50,399 --> 00:34:51,679 >> Yes, that's already accounted for. 869 00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:54,720 >> Oh, that is accounted for. Okay, good. 870 00:34:54,720 --> 00:34:57,119 >> Um, and I threw this on here today. We 871 00:34:57,119 --> 00:34:59,280 don't have to talk about it immediately 872 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,599 unless we're feeling like we really have 873 00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:03,760 to make some decisions. But what would 874 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,320 the midyear Darius is referring to it as 875 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,720 a budget frost instead of a budget 876 00:35:08,720 --> 00:35:11,440 freeze? um meaning that we're not 877 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,760 restricting all dollars of the current 878 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,320 budget. If there really is a need, 879 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,000 someone would be able to go to Ben for 880 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,240 approval of those things. However, we 881 00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:23,520 are looking at items um particularly 882 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,720 instructional hardware. There may be 883 00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:29,200 $20,000 that we could recoup from that 884 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,680 line. So, uh Darius is in conversation 885 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,160 with Scott Hall about what that would 886 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,400 look like if we didn't buy the 887 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,839 Chromebooks this year that we would 888 00:35:37,839 --> 00:35:40,800 normally buy. um what is that multi-year 889 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,960 impact if we don't replace the existing 890 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,040 lot. So, we're having those 891 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,280 conversations internally as well to see 892 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:48,880 if there's anything that we can save 893 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,000 from the current year to put into um 894 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,640 school choice as our free cash and use 895 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,280 to help supplement next year. Having 896 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,359 said all of that, at 11% to get us 897 00:36:01,359 --> 00:36:04,720 anywhere near even say five, it's a 898 00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:07,440 significant amount of money. So, if we 899 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,680 could come up with, you know, 1% from 900 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,800 the current budget, 1% from rural aid, 901 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,079 um, if we use the circuit breaker money, 902 00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:18,480 you know, we're really looking at maybe 903 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,680 we're down around 7%. 904 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,119 Which still is going to require some 905 00:36:23,119 --> 00:36:25,599 conversation, I think, of us and and how 906 00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:27,760 we proceed moving forward 907 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,320 >> because last year we were 3.8, right? 908 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,760 >> Uh, yeah. 3.7, I think. And that's after 909 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,520 you went through the budget three times, 910 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:36,800 right? three different drops. 911 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:37,359 >> Yeah, 912 00:36:37,359 --> 00:36:39,040 >> but it started not this high. It started 913 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,119 more like at six down, right? 914 00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:43,040 >> It's pretty high this year compared to 915 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:43,839 prior years. 916 00:36:43,839 --> 00:36:46,800 >> Why wouldn't we use the whole rule 1.3 917 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,800 and why just try to use some of it? 918 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,000 >> So, I think we're going to have to 919 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,680 continue to talk about the impact on 920 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,280 this year a little bit from having 921 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,599 students come in. I mean, Darius and Ben 922 00:36:55,599 --> 00:36:57,280 had a conversation in our budget meeting 923 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,440 the other day about how this really is 924 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,000 an anomaly. Um, there was a student in 925 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,920 the fall that came in. So, this makes it 926 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,720 four students that became residents of 927 00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:10,720 Sunderland in one school year that had 928 00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:12,320 special education needs that we were 929 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,520 required to meet. So, um, those are 930 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,119 challenges that we just have to work 931 00:37:17,119 --> 00:37:18,079 through. 932 00:37:18,079 --> 00:37:19,599 >> And have we looked at anywhere where the 933 00:37:19,599 --> 00:37:24,160 CES can help with any of that? like 934 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,599 >> I don't know what 935 00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:30,240 >> the things could be one onone's written 936 00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:31,680 into their IEPs. 937 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,520 >> So here in this building 938 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:34,880 >> well they come to us with that in their 939 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,040 IP and we have to honor the IEP until 940 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,920 they can be written in. It's hard to 941 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,680 remove those kind of supports once 942 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,200 they're in there. 943 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,760 Um 944 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,000 the other side to understand is that 945 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,240 when you get up to the 11% the actual 946 00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:54,800 growth of the town of Sunderland 947 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,160 I don't know the exact number but they 948 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,560 were some somewhere under between 949 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,400 $400,000 and a half million dollars of 950 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,440 growth as a town. 951 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,680 If Sunderland's budget is 300,000, 952 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,839 Sunderland will also be, you know, 953 00:38:09,839 --> 00:38:11,520 Frontier, we're working on what their 954 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,599 assessment's going to be. Sunderland has 955 00:38:13,599 --> 00:38:15,119 a growth in student population at 956 00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:16,400 Frontier, so I think they're going to 957 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,680 get hit with a higher assessment. 958 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:20,480 We're going to have to have 959 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,079 conversations with the town about how 960 00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:23,680 much money does the town have, 961 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,520 >> right? Let alone you know what portion 962 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,960 do they does the town and this is this 963 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,040 is your your work ahead of you as well 964 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,960 in the sense of what portion of the town 965 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,680 wants to put of their increase in growth 966 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,280 goes to education versus the other 967 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,599 competitors you know all the other needs 968 00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:43,200 of the town so I'm just kind of saying 969 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,950 the sense of 970 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,800 their big growths and I don't know 971 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,119 you know as between now and our next 972 00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:56,480 meeting. We have to find out, you know, 973 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,160 in conversations and we probably have to 974 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,280 do a meeting earlier with do a joint 975 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,960 select board finance committee once we 976 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,119 understand Frontier's 977 00:39:05,119 --> 00:39:07,839 um general ask and that's been arranged. 978 00:39:07,839 --> 00:39:10,240 frontier, you know, their committee 979 00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:11,920 right now is is waiting, you know, 980 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,079 waiting for the assessments to come out 981 00:39:14,079 --> 00:39:16,960 and looking at red reductions to that 982 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,440 budget, but how far do they have to go 983 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,280 has to be determined, right, in 984 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,560 reductions um and other ways of 985 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,000 supporting, you know, moving them 986 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,200 different kind of money, using rural 987 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,960 aid, looking at school choice money, you 988 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,400 know, that kind of stuff. That all has 989 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,680 to be played out. But my concern is the 990 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,359 total dollar sign coming from education 991 00:39:35,359 --> 00:39:37,760 this year is going to be a tough for the 992 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,760 town 993 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,200 and it's going to require conversations 994 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,200 and maybe it's either town picks it up 995 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,440 and says the other groups are going to 996 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,920 get less within the town. Maybe you know 997 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,920 all the other things you know that could 998 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,599 apply to that. Um and I don't know what 999 00:39:53,599 --> 00:39:55,119 they have in reserves. I don't know what 1000 00:39:55,119 --> 00:39:56,480 they have for free cash. Those are kind 1001 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:57,680 of things that we'd have to go to the 1002 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,440 select board and finance committee to 1003 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,400 have a conversation about. Um 1004 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,680 there's also the concern that you know 1005 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,320 this the insurance thing is also hitting 1006 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:12,160 the town. So 1007 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,400 if we we did some quick math in 1008 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:15,920 Deerfield 1009 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,760 that if we were to pick up the growth of 1010 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,440 the 1011 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,079 um insurance alone on teachers and staff 1012 00:40:24,079 --> 00:40:27,520 there it was over two and a half%. 1013 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,880 So that means they're if they're if 1014 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,640 they're going to budget similarly hold 1015 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,400 doing you know 20% holder that's with a 1016 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,720 20% holder you know with the my 1017 00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:38,560 insurance 1018 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,480 you know that's going to be several 1019 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,160 percentiles of our budget as well. So 1020 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,320 you can add that kind of on. So it's 1021 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,000 probably going to be I'm doing some kind 1022 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,920 of rough numbers and percentage and you 1023 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:48,960 know shoot me down if you think I'm 1024 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,480 getting a little too crazy but you know 1025 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,079 they're going to have you know $80,000 1026 00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:54,320 increase on insurance alone from their 1027 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,839 budget. So if you add that to this, the 1028 00:40:57,839 --> 00:40:59,440 growth of last year's town is going to 1029 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,680 be 1030 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,520 pretty much absorbed just by the 1031 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:04,880 elementary school alone. We haven't even 1032 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,520 talked about where the other schools are 1033 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:08,720 coming in, where police and fire are 1034 00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:11,119 coming in and so forth. And so is it 1035 00:41:11,119 --> 00:41:12,400 screaming that they may have to do an 1036 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,079 override? You know, that's going to let 1037 00:41:14,079 --> 00:41:16,079 them have that conversation. But there's 1038 00:41:16,079 --> 00:41:18,560 a lot of um 1039 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:19,920 conversations that you we're going to 1040 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,000 have with them because I don't know how 1041 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,800 this gets funded straight up. I agree. I 1042 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,200 think we started finance last night and 1043 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,560 we had the police and the highway. They 1044 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,800 were talking about 18% 1045 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,359 estimated insurance impact. They were 1046 00:41:35,359 --> 00:41:39,040 talking about colas. They all had some 1047 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:40,319 pretty important things they to take 1048 00:41:40,319 --> 00:41:41,920 care and they're working as hard to keep 1049 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,720 their budget as low as possible. They 1050 00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:47,040 understand, but we still got a lot of 1051 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,040 budgets to go over and I think as soon 1052 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,480 the school gets in there and just says, 1053 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,599 "Listen, this is where we're at." um is 1054 00:41:53,599 --> 00:41:56,000 really important. We we talked I talked 1055 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,280 last night about how well you guys did 1056 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,599 last year, you know, cutting it down, 1057 00:41:59,599 --> 00:42:00,800 cutting them down, but I didn't see 1058 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,000 these numbers yet. So, 1059 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:02,480 >> sure. 1060 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,680 >> Um I I agree you should. We're having 1061 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,240 we're actually having a South County 1062 00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:11,359 meeting. So, Weightley, Deerfield, and 1063 00:42:11,359 --> 00:42:12,960 Sunderland, 1064 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,960 but not Conway because it's about South 1065 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:15,839 County 1066 00:42:15,839 --> 00:42:16,480 >> EMS. 1067 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,079 and um in the senior center. Uh we 1068 00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:21,839 talked about maybe trying to have all 1069 00:42:21,839 --> 00:42:24,880 four towns come together financing to 1070 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:29,599 hear Frontier and also hear um the text. 1071 00:42:29,599 --> 00:42:31,760 So that may be an opportunity. So all 1072 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,119 those things we haven't done before, but 1073 00:42:33,119 --> 00:42:34,480 we were talking about trying to it 1074 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:35,680 actually borrows something that we've 1075 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,359 been doing with joint meetings with 1076 00:42:39,359 --> 00:42:41,760 our our smaller towns like the Deerfield 1077 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,000 Sunderland joint meetings. So um to be 1078 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,280 more efficient but also to get 1079 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,040 everything out on the table. So yeah, I 1080 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,760 agree. you probably should give contact 1081 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,960 them. Yeah, I I think the we we're kind 1082 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,520 of I've had you know because I've been 1083 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:56,800 talking with the town administrators 1084 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,800 like alluding to doing this but it 1085 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,560 really is until we have the assessment 1086 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,960 numbers it's a lot of spitballing and 1087 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,119 you know we can we know it's going to be 1088 00:43:05,119 --> 00:43:08,079 we can guess where it's going to be 1089 00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:11,040 um higher than others you know um but I 1090 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,640 just don't just don't I don't know the 1091 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,599 numbers as we said we can 1092 00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:16,720 I think a lot of it's going to get 1093 00:43:16,720 --> 00:43:19,520 really busy after the 23rd 1094 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:24,480 And so we can figure out, you know, um 1095 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:25,920 I think there will be outreach to figure 1096 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,440 out do we do a joint meeting, we 1097 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:28,880 certainly have to. There's going to be a 1098 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,680 lot of more meetings in the sense of um 1099 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,760 communicating with those those bodies 1100 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,480 about this is what it means, right? And 1101 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,720 so if we say we have to reduce budget, 1102 00:43:38,720 --> 00:43:40,079 they have to understand what it means to 1103 00:43:40,079 --> 00:43:41,599 do our with our programming and that 1104 00:43:41,599 --> 00:43:45,359 kind of stuff. And I don't know um what 1105 00:43:45,359 --> 00:43:47,280 the you know semolin just has a the 1106 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:48,720 price per student as you brought up 1107 00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:51,520 earlier is the highest but the needs are 1108 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,520 higher here um and it's just based on um 1109 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:56,880 the different populations that were 1110 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,960 we're serving here that isn't as high in 1111 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,720 some of the some of the other schools 1112 00:44:00,720 --> 00:44:02,640 and so 1113 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:10,710 um yeah it's that's the road ahead 1114 00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:13,200 » in terms of state funding. This is just 1115 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:19,190 assuming hold harmless. 1116 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:20,880 Yeah, I don't think there's definitely 1117 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,760 not been enough growth in resident 1118 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:30,309 um enrollment to impact where 1119 00:44:30,319 --> 00:44:32,960 » I saw on the division of local services 1120 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,160 website that allegedly Sunderland's um 1121 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,160 per capita income made a huge jump this 1122 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,319 year, but we'll just 1123 00:44:40,319 --> 00:44:41,839 >> that'll impact Frontier. 1124 00:44:41,839 --> 00:44:43,040 >> Okay, that was kind of what I was 1125 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,079 wondering. I was realizing that's not 1126 00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:46,079 for this meeting. Yeah, it won't impact 1127 00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:48,319 the elementary school, but it will 1128 00:44:48,319 --> 00:44:50,400 impact how much the state says 1129 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,480 Sunderland can afford to pay for 1130 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:53,280 Frontier. 1131 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:53,680 >> Okay. 1132 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,599 >> Which is always the moving target. 1133 00:44:55,599 --> 00:44:58,319 >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. 1134 00:44:58,319 --> 00:45:00,160 >> Um, it's always the moving target in the 1135 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,000 assessment. I mean, I could calculate 1136 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,319 what the rest of the local contribution 1137 00:45:04,319 --> 00:45:06,880 is right now, but we don't know what the 1138 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,200 state says that each town can afford. 1139 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,640 >> Okay. 1140 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,560 And if it's a double hit where 1141 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,040 enrollment went up for Frontier in 1142 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,359 Sunderland for for Sunderland residents 1143 00:45:17,359 --> 00:45:20,720 that go to Frontier and the income grew 1144 00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:23,280 and house values went up, like it could 1145 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,000 be 1146 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,200 multi- impact, 1147 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,520 >> right? But Sunderland for Frontier has 1148 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:32,880 and I know Jessica knows because she's 1149 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,880 there, but has an enrollment increase in 1150 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,119 percentage where the other towns have 1151 00:45:37,119 --> 00:45:38,400 come down even though it's only up a 1152 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:39,920 few. It's going to because the others 1153 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,680 went down as well. It's going to be a 1154 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,319 double hit on the assessment. 1155 00:45:44,319 --> 00:45:46,000 >> Now, 1156 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,880 what about again, we'll shift to the 1157 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,880 frontier, but I heard there's between 20 1158 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,920 and 30 kids applying out. Is that 1159 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:54,800 accurate? 1160 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:55,599 >> Out to where? 1161 00:45:55,599 --> 00:45:58,400 >> Out to private schools. And would that 1162 00:45:58,400 --> 00:45:59,599 change? But you won't know that. 1163 00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:01,200 >> Well, it it's not money going out. If 1164 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,119 they go to private schools, we don't 1165 00:46:03,119 --> 00:46:04,480 obviously there's no funding that 1166 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,800 follows them. Um but 1167 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,119 >> but the foundation enrollment would come 1168 00:46:09,119 --> 00:46:11,040 down from those towns. 1169 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,200 >> But when do they calculate the following 1170 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,079 year, right? 1171 00:46:14,079 --> 00:46:15,839 >> The following October one report. 1172 00:46:15,839 --> 00:46:19,190 >> Oh, they do. Okay. 1173 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,839 So we wouldn't there would be into the 1174 00:46:21,839 --> 00:46:24,079 next year that would if that was the 1175 00:46:24,079 --> 00:46:24,800 case 1176 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,160 >> and you know um 1177 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,800 we lose we can range for that many 1178 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,440 students you know that that do that go 1179 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:38,079 to private um between five and 13 1180 00:46:38,079 --> 00:46:39,599 depending on 1181 00:46:39,599 --> 00:46:42,319 >> depending on the class depending on um 1182 00:46:42,319 --> 00:46:43,599 >> 20 seems high though 1183 00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:45,359 >> 22 seems high 1184 00:46:45,359 --> 00:46:46,800 >> um and then als Also, some of those 1185 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,240 students may be choice students, 1186 00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:48,720 >> right? 1187 00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:50,640 >> Sometimes we you know, you know, they've 1188 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:51,680 been part of our community forever, 1189 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:52,880 though. We don't look at it that way. 1190 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:53,520 But, 1191 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,040 >> you know, the same thing kind of happens 1192 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,520 when um 1193 00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,319 you know the leaks you drop with tech 1194 00:47:00,319 --> 00:47:02,480 students. Not many students who choice 1195 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:03,839 to us then go to tech. They usually 1196 00:47:03,839 --> 00:47:05,520 choice to us and stay with us. 1197 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,280 >> Um but there are a few that you know 1198 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,880 sometimes do lose numbers that way. But 1199 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,440 >> and the tech the students leave in our 1200 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,040 system and go to tech. Is that deter 1201 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,599 when is that determining? 1202 00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:19,839 That's junior high kids, right? Mostly, 1203 00:47:19,839 --> 00:47:20,240 right? 1204 00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:22,560 >> Yeah. So, 8th grade, they start the 1205 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:27,200 application process now. Um, 1206 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,839 we usually know in April. 1207 00:47:29,839 --> 00:47:31,599 >> Okay. And how does that affect our 1208 00:47:31,599 --> 00:47:32,960 funding? Just 1209 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,680 >> it doesn't affect Well, if we lose 1210 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,319 students on the overall, 1211 00:47:38,319 --> 00:47:43,040 again, a foundation numbers go down. Um 1212 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,040 but then you know then the bill comes 1213 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,440 from the new students going to tech and 1214 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,160 tech is is tough to regulate and we had 1215 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,079 this conversation today in another 1216 00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:54,079 meeting because 1217 00:47:54,079 --> 00:47:56,319 >> you know they have 13 or 18 communities 1218 00:47:56,319 --> 00:47:58,400 I mean they serve it's it's a crazy 1219 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,640 number and 1220 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,040 you know your cost goes up by a student 1221 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,359 or drops by a student one or two in most 1222 00:48:05,359 --> 00:48:07,280 of our small towns 1223 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,440 >> um of not one or two students more but 1224 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,359 one or two whatever the average is like 1225 00:48:11,359 --> 00:48:12,720 you have 10 going out, then you have 1226 00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:14,079 nine going out, then you have 12 going 1227 00:48:14,079 --> 00:48:16,319 out. And the statement that they say at 1228 00:48:16,319 --> 00:48:18,240 town meeting is, yeah, their budget 1229 00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:19,520 keeps going up. They never talk about 1230 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,599 that. They just say, oh, you're you're 1231 00:48:21,599 --> 00:48:23,119 thinking up is up this year due to 1232 00:48:23,119 --> 00:48:24,559 increased enrollment. 1233 00:48:24,559 --> 00:48:26,240 >> And there's never really a collective 1234 00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:28,319 conversation about what the overall cost 1235 00:48:28,319 --> 00:48:33,760 of the budget is. And so, um, there's a little bit less accountability 1236 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,680 there. Um I would say within that I 1237 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,119 don't think that they've gone crazy with 1238 00:48:39,119 --> 00:48:42,559 their increases but um it's just that's 1239 00:48:42,559 --> 00:48:44,319 how it comes through and so I don't have 1240 00:48:44,319 --> 00:48:46,960 no idea what the tech budget is or the 1241 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:47,760 VO budget. 1242 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,280 >> Yeah. When we look I mean just maybe I 1243 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:50,880 should get back to something but when we 1244 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,160 look at it it's it's such a small amount 1245 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,240 compared to our budget for Frontier that 1246 00:48:56,240 --> 00:48:57,920 it's kind of like just a rubber stamp 1247 00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,200 like yeah that's doesn't seem like that 1248 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:00,400 much seems like a deal. All right, here 1249 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,880 we go. And he's going to the tech is 1250 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,880 going to 18 19 different town meetings 1251 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,480 and and the ones that are the biggest 1252 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,400 are Falls and Greenfield. You know, they 1253 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,400 have they're the ones that have the big 1254 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,880 expenses, but not really us. So, we're 1255 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,200 really focused on Frontier and 1256 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:27,109 Sunderland. 1257 00:49:27,119 --> 00:49:29,440 » Any further questions or discussion? I 1258 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:34,160 had um All right. So, what was it? Um 1259 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,720 the 20% placeholder that's just we're 1260 00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:39,920 just assuming, right? That's based on 1261 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,559 what happened with the other insurance 1262 00:49:42,559 --> 00:49:45,280 company for the other towns and because 1263 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,599 we did 18 for our MI for MIA. 1264 00:49:49,599 --> 00:49:50,160 >> Um 1265 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,520 >> so, the town may have some info from 1266 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,319 Maya already about the range that 1267 00:49:56,319 --> 00:49:57,839 they're looking at. Yeah, 1268 00:49:57,839 --> 00:49:59,760 >> we don't have that yet for Hampshire 1269 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:01,200 County Group Insurance Trust for 1270 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:02,800 Frontier, which is where the central 1271 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,079 office benefits come from. 1272 00:50:04,079 --> 00:50:05,040 >> Okay, that's why. 1273 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,240 >> Um, and I'm trying to be 1274 00:50:08,240 --> 00:50:11,200 as most prepared as possible. So, the 1275 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,079 20% could be a little bit high by a 1276 00:50:14,079 --> 00:50:16,480 couple of percentage points, but I 1277 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,079 certainly don't want to be on the other 1278 00:50:18,079 --> 00:50:20,960 end where I only budgeted 15 and it 1279 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:21,839 comes in at 20. 1280 00:50:21,839 --> 00:50:23,119 >> No, it's better to budget that one 1281 00:50:23,119 --> 00:50:24,319 especially because you can, you know, if 1282 00:50:24,319 --> 00:50:25,839 you don't make it, you can borrow, but 1283 00:50:25,839 --> 00:50:26,720 you don't, you're right. you don't want 1284 00:50:26,720 --> 00:50:28,559 to be under. And then the question for 1285 00:50:28,559 --> 00:50:32,960 Ben, any any turnover anticipation 1286 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:34,559 except for that person retiring next 1287 00:50:34,559 --> 00:50:36,559 year 1288 00:50:36,559 --> 00:50:37,520 >> of staffing. 1289 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:38,400 >> Yeah, 1290 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,680 >> we well we have our wonderful longtime 1291 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,599 English learner teacher Matthew Hell. 1292 00:50:43,599 --> 00:50:47,760 He's um retiring in at the end of March 1293 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:48,480 of of this year. 1294 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:52,800 >> Okay. Um we our plan is we've posted for 1295 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,599 a long-term sub uh to carry us through 1296 00:50:55,599 --> 00:50:58,640 the end of the year but we will be um 1297 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,520 you know opening up a search position 1298 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,599 >> and that's not a position that could be 1299 00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:05,760 built internally like an IIA moving out 1300 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,559 no one is anyone qualified internally. 1301 00:51:08,559 --> 00:51:10,720 >> Yeah we we definitely have some folks uh 1302 00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:13,040 qualified internally for that position. 1303 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,040 Um you know there's just a lot of 1304 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,000 different moving parts. 1305 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:18,319 Yeah, 1306 00:51:18,319 --> 00:51:20,000 >> but that's not going to be a reduction, 1307 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,280 >> right? Well, reduction higher on the 1308 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:24,559 scale versus lower on scale 1309 00:51:24,559 --> 00:51:26,480 >> which is already incorporated into the 1310 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,880 budget. So any retirements that I know 1311 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,280 of or anyone leaving for any reason that 1312 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,079 I know of at this point, I've already 1313 00:51:34,079 --> 00:51:35,760 accounted for a reduction in where 1314 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:36,400 they've gone. 1315 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,000 >> And how do you do it? You account for 1316 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,000 You don't go the lowest step. You count 1317 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,640 >> No, we go middle range. And actually, I 1318 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,040 go a little bit higher because our 1319 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,839 applicant pools have been so small. 1320 00:51:47,839 --> 00:51:51,599 districtwide for any position, 1321 00:51:51,599 --> 00:51:53,839 >> you know, and you know, right now we're 1322 00:51:53,839 --> 00:51:56,640 not anticipating any other faculty 1323 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,040 member changes um for instructional 1324 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,040 assistance. That, you know, historically 1325 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,200 has been a position that there is some 1326 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:09,990 fluctuation each year. 1327 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,520 » Last week, you had the Frontier School 1328 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,119 Committee vote on a soft freeze. Do you 1329 00:52:13,119 --> 00:52:18,150 want any action from us this evening? 1330 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:25,270 Um 1331 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,359 we 1332 00:52:27,359 --> 00:52:30,160 some of the biggest areas uh uh soft 1333 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,520 freeze is technology. 1334 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,960 Um and we reached out and I reached out 1335 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,720 we had meetings with you know um Scott 1336 00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:40,960 Paul our technology director to talk 1337 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:42,480 about what the impact of that is and 1338 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,359 what the musthaves he has. Um he kind of 1339 00:52:45,359 --> 00:52:46,960 reported back that he absolutely needs 1340 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,520 about 10 rounding up slightly but at 1341 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,319 around $10,000 to redo the server. 1342 00:52:52,319 --> 00:52:54,160 Without it, we won't be protected going 1343 00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,040 into the next year because it's it's uh 1344 00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:58,240 falling out of warranty or something 1345 00:52:58,240 --> 00:53:00,480 like whatever the story is. Is it the 1346 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,000 must? 1347 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,079 He talked about 1348 00:53:04,079 --> 00:53:05,760 the Chromebook buys from this year being 1349 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,280 pushed to another year, but then they 1350 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,160 would be musts next year. Um he kind of 1351 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,000 gave us a rundown of that. So when we do 1352 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,000 a frost, that would be one area where we 1353 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,160 would see the most gain. Um the 1354 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,400 daytoday, I don't know what you there's 1355 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,880 not a lot of day-to-day 1356 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,160 um needs 1357 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,720 that 1358 00:53:26,720 --> 00:53:28,319 they're coming across as wants. 1359 00:53:28,319 --> 00:53:30,800 >> No, there's really not. Um, so the other 1360 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,440 piece at times is just our our general 1361 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,280 repairs, but like 1362 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,000 >> you know, we sometimes look forward to 1363 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,839 extra money at the end of the school 1364 00:53:39,839 --> 00:53:42,400 year for just the deferred maintenance. 1365 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,880 Um, but you know, a lot can happen 1366 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,240 between now and the end of the school 1367 00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:49,200 year. So, but I guess by I guess I guess 1368 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:50,720 it would be good to do a vote on that 1369 00:53:50,720 --> 00:53:52,079 because what you're saying is that you 1370 00:53:52,079 --> 00:53:54,319 want the administration to prioritize 1371 00:53:54,319 --> 00:53:56,880 saving money, not saving money for the 1372 00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,559 end of year to do some painting and do 1373 00:53:58,559 --> 00:54:00,480 some whatever. But we are saving to 1374 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,000 offset next year's budget. And if we're 1375 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:05,680 going to start doing that, I think it 1376 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,760 should come from the top. And that 1377 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,520 that's what we want to do here. But I I 1378 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,359 want people to know when I say frosting 1379 00:54:11,359 --> 00:54:12,480 the budget, we're going to stop we're 1380 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,119 going to slow teacher spending 1381 00:54:15,119 --> 00:54:16,559 and you know teach all the teachers 1382 00:54:16,559 --> 00:54:18,079 online can say we're not spending a 1383 00:54:18,079 --> 00:54:19,200 whole lot. You know what I mean? It's 1384 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,200 not like it's not like you know you know 1385 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:22,800 it's especially at this point of the 1386 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:23,839 year you've already got the basic 1387 00:54:23,839 --> 00:54:25,839 classroom supplies but as I you know I 1388 00:54:25,839 --> 00:54:27,280 explained I had a meeting with frontier 1389 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,520 teachers today to talk with them about 1390 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,440 the frontier budget and and one of my 1391 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,119 definitions well sometimes you go and 1392 00:54:33,119 --> 00:54:35,599 buy posters right you don't need to buy 1393 00:54:35,599 --> 00:54:37,680 posters sure you know I mean it's a 1394 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,480 that's a that's a want not a need um if 1395 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,000 you need you know there are needs in 1396 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,000 your classroom where you have to get the 1397 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,319 manipulatives for the certain unit that 1398 00:54:46,319 --> 00:54:47,760 you're working on in order for it to be 1399 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,599 successful and and Ben becomes the 1400 00:54:49,599 --> 00:54:53,839 gatekeeper of that and so um you know 1401 00:54:53,839 --> 00:54:55,440 and it's also about cost and impact and 1402 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:56,880 number of students you know it's that 1403 00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:58,800 kind of stuff that he can you know we we 1404 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,920 normally do but with a little bit more 1405 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,079 um fidelity I guess and then 1406 00:55:04,079 --> 00:55:05,920 >> and I I think there's plenty of lines 1407 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,559 where we can capture 1% of the budget 1408 00:55:08,559 --> 00:55:10,640 without impacting 1409 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,760 um student you know needs and and 1410 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,920 teacher needs. You know, I I think 1411 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:17,920 people should be mindful of what they're 1412 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,839 purchasing and make sure that you're 1413 00:55:19,839 --> 00:55:22,480 getting it from a preferred vendor and 1414 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,200 at the cheapest price possible. And you 1415 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,760 know, when you would normally buy five 1416 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,920 dozen of a folder so you have some for 1417 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,000 next year, just buy what you need right 1418 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,440 now. But between the tech line, which 1419 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,760 does have an impact in the long run, but 1420 00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,240 if we can put it off for one year, 1421 00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:42,400 that's a good position for us to look at 1422 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,880 or or account for us to look at. other 1423 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,000 things like superintendent's office. If 1424 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,240 Darius and I don't do our PD this year, 1425 00:55:50,240 --> 00:55:52,400 that money automatically gets recouped. 1426 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,319 You know, our association memberships 1427 00:55:54,319 --> 00:55:56,799 are already paid for, but I don't have 1428 00:55:56,799 --> 00:55:58,799 to go to the conference for my 1429 00:55:58,799 --> 00:56:01,280 association in May this year. You know, 1430 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,440 those kind of things. Um, you didn't 1431 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,000 make it to MASC, so there's savings in 1432 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,960 those lines. Um, you know, the little 1433 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,760 bits and pieces I think will help us add 1434 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,680 up. Um, while we can't, uh, freeze PD 1435 00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,680 without negotiating as part of the 1436 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,200 contract, they're typically in 1437 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,799 Sunderland is some money left there. Um, 1438 00:56:22,799 --> 00:56:24,319 normally I would say the substitute 1439 00:56:24,319 --> 00:56:26,400 line, but that's you've you've had quite 1440 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,400 a few subs in. So, I don't think that'll 1441 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,319 be an option, but I do think there's 1442 00:56:30,319 --> 00:56:32,400 other places besides classroom supplies 1443 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,079 and materials and general supplies and 1444 00:56:34,079 --> 00:56:35,839 materials. But just having that 1445 00:56:35,839 --> 00:56:37,440 awareness, you know, I don't know if 1446 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:38,960 this happens here, but I know at 1447 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,920 Frontier if the custodian has the 1448 00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,720 opportunity to stock the closet in May 1449 00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:46,559 of toilet paper and paper towels, he 1450 00:56:46,559 --> 00:56:47,920 will do that if he has budget money 1451 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,079 available. But don't do that. Wait till 1452 00:56:50,079 --> 00:56:53,040 July one and restock your closet. So 1453 00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,760 just those sort of conscious um 1454 00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,839 purchasing decisions I think will help 1455 00:56:57,839 --> 00:56:59,839 us save. And it is unfortunate because 1456 00:56:59,839 --> 00:57:02,480 we we have benefited from several years 1457 00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,880 now of being able to do some deferred 1458 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:06,240 maintenance. We painted the building 1459 00:57:06,240 --> 00:57:08,960 last year um internally a bunch of of 1460 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:10,880 spaces and I just don't think those are 1461 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:12,640 going to be an option for us. But what 1462 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,200 are our priorities? You know, repainting 1463 00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,520 the classroom or saving a position that 1464 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,520 we need in the budget to meet the needs 1465 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,319 of our students. So, we're just sort of 1466 00:57:22,319 --> 00:57:25,119 talking about prioritizing how we spend 1467 00:57:25,119 --> 00:57:27,040 our money in a different way than we 1468 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:28,880 usually do. 1469 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:33,589 If that ice 1470 00:57:33,599 --> 00:57:37,040 » now with PD you the cloud offers a lot 1471 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,200 of PD 1472 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,559 have we and we're paying for members pay 1473 00:57:42,559 --> 00:57:46,160 four four bucks a person I think or 450 1474 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,440 in looking ahead to next year can the 1475 00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,799 schedule utilize the collaborives PDS at 1476 00:57:52,799 --> 00:57:55,040 a lower cost than will it outside be 1477 00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,119 better without 1478 00:57:57,119 --> 00:57:58,000 changing 1479 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,480 the value of the PD. You know, I despise 1480 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:01,920 something you and Laura have to work on. 1481 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:03,760 But that's just a thought. I know we, 1482 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:04,720 you know, I've just been getting more 1483 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:05,839 and more involved with this 1484 00:58:05,839 --> 00:58:07,119 collaborative. I'm just wondering where 1485 00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:09,200 we can use it for Frontier and for 1486 00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:13,599 Sunland. Um because it offers a lot um 1487 00:58:13,599 --> 00:58:16,400 but a lot of it's special ed, but there 1488 00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:20,160 are a lot of PD that they have. So, just 1489 00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,079 a thought I can I'll dig deep into and 1490 00:58:22,079 --> 00:58:23,440 I'll talk to you more about what you 1491 00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,839 mean. Great. I hope you get a lot of 1492 00:58:25,839 --> 00:58:28,079 notes. I mean grants. 1493 00:58:28,079 --> 00:58:30,319 >> Yeah. And when you talk about also about 1494 00:58:30,319 --> 00:58:33,040 PD, so anything that's in a teacher's 1495 00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,559 contract is contractually driven. So if 1496 00:58:36,559 --> 00:58:39,839 teachers are I forget I should know on 1497 00:58:39,839 --> 00:58:41,839 top of my head and I don't but um what 1498 00:58:41,839 --> 00:58:43,359 the proportion they get through the 1499 00:58:43,359 --> 00:58:45,280 contract that for professional 1500 00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,359 development isn't frozen. 1501 00:58:47,359 --> 00:58:51,839 >> So we are contractually obligated. Um, 1502 00:58:51,839 --> 00:58:54,000 the way around that is you you could 1503 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,920 technically meet with the association 1504 00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:57,760 and see if they would agree to freeze 1505 00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,079 their professional development, but I 1506 00:59:00,079 --> 00:59:01,839 don't think that's that's necessary that 1507 00:59:01,839 --> 00:59:05,040 they could agree to you can always alter 1508 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:06,799 within the with within an 1509 00:59:06,799 --> 00:59:09,200 >> tuition reimbursement. 1510 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:10,799 >> For example, tuition reimbursement, 1511 00:59:10,799 --> 00:59:12,559 whatever. I'm just talking about like 1512 00:59:12,559 --> 00:59:13,920 you're not allowed to touch anything 1513 00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,400 that's in the contract. So if we have 1514 00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,559 tuition reimbursement or you know for 1515 00:59:18,559 --> 00:59:20,559 their own personal PD and that kind of 1516 00:59:20,559 --> 00:59:22,799 thing that's not affected by the freeze. 1517 00:59:22,799 --> 00:59:25,680 However um if you ever if it was 1518 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:26,960 something was 1519 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:28,960 >> more even more catastrophic you could 1520 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:30,640 meet negotiate with the association 1521 00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,559 about limiting something within their 1522 00:59:32,559 --> 00:59:33,680 contract. We're just talking about how 1523 00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:34,400 it works 1524 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,480 >> and those listening we're not there yet 1525 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:37,599 but I just want it's important to 1526 00:59:37,599 --> 00:59:38,960 understand when people say well I heard 1527 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:40,240 another district said they did that. 1528 00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,240 Well, this is what you can do. Meaning 1529 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:43,920 in the contract can be discussed, right? 1530 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:45,920 It's just we can't unilaterally do 1531 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:59,030 something without them. 1532 00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:00,240 Thank you all for your hard and 1533 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:04,309 thoughtful work on this 1534 01:00:04,319 --> 01:00:07,200 » a difficult thing 1535 01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:07,440 I 1536 01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,520 >> say and articulation. I appreciate all 1537 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,440 that you do to explain that for us. 1538 01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:12,400 >> Yeah. 1539 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,079 >> That was very informative. 1540 01:00:14,079 --> 01:00:17,119 >> When is our next meeting? Let me know. I 1541 01:00:17,119 --> 01:00:20,400 thought I found it. Um 1542 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:26,549 is the February 11th. 1543 01:00:26,559 --> 01:00:28,400 his vacations the following week. 1544 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:29,040 >> Yeah. 1545 01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,160 >> I was just trying to think like 1546 01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:37,190 >> as soon as we have the frontier 1547 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,119 numbers and such, we really do need to 1548 01:00:39,119 --> 01:00:40,720 start reaching out and talking with town 1549 01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,799 about what kind of conversation they 1550 01:00:42,799 --> 01:00:44,880 want to have with us in February. 1551 01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,799 >> And so I'm just saying that to kind of 1552 01:00:46,799 --> 01:00:48,559 close this conversation for next steps. 1553 01:00:48,559 --> 01:00:50,480 one is that you know we're going to you 1554 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:55,119 know is opening of that conversation. So 1555 01:00:55,119 --> 01:00:57,359 um 1556 01:00:57,359 --> 01:00:58,799 I'm just looking at for thoughts on 1557 01:00:58,799 --> 01:00:59,280 that. 1558 01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,000 >> So we finance select board is talking 1559 01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:03,920 budget on the 9th. 1560 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:04,400 >> Okay. 1561 01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,280 >> Now that possibly could be moved to 10th 1562 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,680 or the 11th if they're off or we can 1563 01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,480 move ours but that's our next so we 1564 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:13,920 we're basically doing every two weeks 1565 01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:19,200 from now until the end of time. But um 1566 01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,040 And I could I could look ahead to see 1567 01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:22,799 what budget 1568 01:01:22,799 --> 01:01:25,680 I can I can tell you. 1569 01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:26,799 I mean, keep doing what you're doing, 1570 01:01:26,799 --> 01:01:28,079 but I'll tell you what is actually 1571 01:01:28,079 --> 01:01:31,040 scheduled for that budget. Right now, 1572 01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:35,349 >> it might be the tech school. 1573 01:01:35,359 --> 01:01:37,520 » All right. I guess so. We'll we'll we 1574 01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,280 can talk more about that's you know, 1575 01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:40,640 that's scheduling a meeting so that can 1576 01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:41,920 actually talked about away from the 1577 01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:43,040 meeting. We don't actually have to do 1578 01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:44,480 that. We don't have to do that now. And 1579 01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:45,599 that's something that can be discussed 1580 01:01:45,599 --> 01:01:47,760 via email. scheduling of meetings can 1581 01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,160 be. So, I just wanted that to be on 1582 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:51,680 people's radar that we really aren't 1583 01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:52,880 going to put the whole thing on hold 1584 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:54,640 until we see you again in February. We 1585 01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,160 really once we get this information, we 1586 01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:57,839 got to start reaching out, start talking 1587 01:01:57,839 --> 01:02:00,319 to people so that um everybody knows 1588 01:02:00,319 --> 01:02:01,599 what's going on and then we can have 1589 01:02:01,599 --> 01:02:03,920 more constructive conversations. 1590 01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:05,920 >> Great. Thank you. 1591 01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:07,280 >> Moving on to the school improvement 1592 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:08,880 plan. 1593 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:14,799 >> Great. Um our school council has um met 1594 01:02:14,799 --> 01:02:19,280 a couple times so far this year. We have 1595 01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,280 a couple staff members as part of our 1596 01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,480 team. We have two caregivers and have 1597 01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,079 been struggling to line up a community 1598 01:02:26,079 --> 01:02:28,640 member up until last week I met with 1599 01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,480 someone who was going to be joining our 1600 01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,200 group. So um good news on that front. 1601 01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:36,559 Our school improvement plan uh flows 1602 01:02:36,559 --> 01:02:39,760 down from the district's strategic plan. 1603 01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:41,839 This year we have three overarching 1604 01:02:41,839 --> 01:02:44,720 goals with a lot of action steps under 1605 01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,440 each of those goals. Uh the goals are 1606 01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:51,119 ensuring a positive school climate. Um 1607 01:02:51,119 --> 01:02:54,000 then goal two is based on curriculum and 1608 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:55,839 instruction where we're ensuring 1609 01:02:55,839 --> 01:02:57,599 rigorous, accessible, and inclusive 1610 01:02:57,599 --> 01:02:59,200 educational experiences for all 1611 01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,920 students. And then finally, goal three, 1612 01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,160 school culture and community, where 1613 01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,880 we're ensuring uh sustaining high 1614 01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:07,920 community involvement through 1615 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:09,760 accessible, frequent, inclusive events 1616 01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:13,119 and initiatives. Um the community 1617 01:03:13,119 --> 01:03:16,319 includes caregivers, students, staff, 1618 01:03:16,319 --> 01:03:20,240 and uh community organizations. 1619 01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,720 So we restructured the plan a little bit 1620 01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,920 from previous years. Um one example is 1621 01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,799 that we had previously had um 1622 01:03:28,799 --> 01:03:30,880 implementing responsive classroom 1623 01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:32,480 protocols 1624 01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,440 um and a responsive classroom as it as 1625 01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,839 an individual goal that has since been 1626 01:03:37,839 --> 01:03:41,440 moved to um an action step under goal 1627 01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,680 one um ensuring a positive school 1628 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:47,760 climate and um yeah so overall we're 1629 01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,000 making really good progress at at this 1630 01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:53,280 point. Um, one of the, you know, I guess 1631 01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,880 somewhat exciting components of this, 1632 01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,280 um, when it, uh, specifically involves 1633 01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:02,880 the school extended school community has 1634 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:07,200 been our farm-to-school initiative. Um, 1635 01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,640 uh, Megan is on the committee for the 1636 01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,039 district and we've already connected 1637 01:04:13,039 --> 01:04:16,400 with local farms, um, at times this 1638 01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,359 school year and we've had a couple 1639 01:04:19,359 --> 01:04:21,520 different field trips taking place. Um, 1640 01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,599 our fifth and sixth graders went to 1641 01:04:23,599 --> 01:04:26,319 Warner Farm. Um, we had students in 1642 01:04:26,319 --> 01:04:28,480 grades one, 1643 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:33,359 uh, grade three, four, and grade six go 1644 01:04:33,359 --> 01:04:37,039 to Thomas Farm. Um, and then we've had 1645 01:04:37,039 --> 01:04:40,160 donations from both Warner Farm and 1646 01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:44,720 Smaroski Farm as as well. So, you know, 1647 01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:48,000 I I sent this out. Um, we you'd received 1648 01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:49,280 this in advance. Do you have any 1649 01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,760 specific questions about the school 1650 01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:56,160 improvement plan at this point? 1651 01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,880 >> I don't 1652 01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:00,960 speak to everyone, but 1653 01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,920 >> Well, yeah. Are you gonna say something? 1654 01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:05,520 The only thing we talked about in the 1655 01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:07,520 council, similar to sharing the well, 1656 01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,240 because we talked about our school 1657 01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:13,119 council interacting with the other town 1658 01:05:13,119 --> 01:05:14,880 school council, see what their their 1659 01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,119 plans look like too, to see are they 1660 01:05:17,119 --> 01:05:18,559 very similar, are they very different? 1661 01:05:18,559 --> 01:05:20,160 And so we've been that's something that 1662 01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:20,960 came up. 1663 01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,839 >> Correct. And and um we are waiting for 1664 01:05:23,839 --> 01:05:26,319 those plans and I've already been in 1665 01:05:26,319 --> 01:05:27,760 touch with the other principles. So, 1666 01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:29,119 we're waiting for those plans to be 1667 01:05:29,119 --> 01:05:31,280 finalized and then I'll bring them to 1668 01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,119 our next our next meeting 1669 01:05:33,119 --> 01:05:34,640 >> and also the work that you're doing with 1670 01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,520 the other principles in your 1671 01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:39,440 >> learn your 1672 01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:40,640 studies, right? 1673 01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:44,000 >> Y um uh also for the past couple years 1674 01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,559 we've used uh the school council as an 1675 01:05:46,559 --> 01:05:48,720 opportunity to do a book study and we're 1676 01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:51,440 once again uh doing that this year. We 1677 01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:54,079 are reading What Happened to You um 1678 01:05:54,079 --> 01:05:56,240 which is a book co-written by Oprah 1679 01:05:56,240 --> 01:06:01,039 Winfrey and Dr. Bruce Perry. Um the book 1680 01:06:01,039 --> 01:06:04,480 uh focuses on how child one's childhood 1681 01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:07,760 experiences whether from uh being in 1682 01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,319 utero to the first few weeks, months um 1683 01:06:10,319 --> 01:06:15,839 of life uh then shape behavior later on. 1684 01:06:15,839 --> 01:06:17,839 So, it's been a really interesting read 1685 01:06:17,839 --> 01:06:22,319 up to this point. And um yeah, I think 1686 01:06:22,319 --> 01:06:25,280 we're pretty pretty decent shape. 1687 01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,640 >> And yeah, the key point is the common 1688 01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:30,880 question I've done it coaching teaching 1689 01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,039 before like what's wrong with you, 1690 01:06:33,039 --> 01:06:33,280 right? 1691 01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,839 >> And not that comment and like you know 1692 01:06:35,839 --> 01:06:37,200 what's happening you put me in this 1693 01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:39,039 place. So, it's it's been really 1694 01:06:39,039 --> 01:06:43,589 informative. 1695 01:06:43,599 --> 01:06:45,200 I appreciated the book study when I was 1696 01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:46,799 on Yes. school council. It was a really 1697 01:06:46,799 --> 01:06:49,760 good experience. 1698 01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:52,160 >> I appreciate the uh school improvement 1699 01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,400 plan that it's very clear and concrete. 1700 01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:55,119 Familiar? 1701 01:06:55,119 --> 01:06:56,559 >> Yes. 1702 01:06:56,559 --> 01:06:59,039 >> Any more questions or discussion about 1703 01:06:59,039 --> 01:07:00,400 the school improvement plan before we 1704 01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,960 vote on it? 1705 01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:04,480 Right. We need a motion to approve the 1706 01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,240 school improvement. 1707 01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:06,400 A 1708 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:09,839 >> motion to approve. A second. 1709 01:07:09,839 --> 01:07:13,440 Thank you. Any further discussion? 1710 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:15,280 And then do we do the roll call? 1711 01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:16,160 >> Megan, 1712 01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,880 >> yes. Blue eye. 1713 01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:20,160 >> Yes. 1714 01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:20,880 >> Joe, 1715 01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:22,480 >> yes. 1716 01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:24,079 >> Amanda, yes. 1717 01:07:24,079 --> 01:07:25,680 >> All right. The school improvement plan 1718 01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,480 has been approved. 5-0. Moving on to 1719 01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:29,440 appointing a member to the 1720 01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:31,359 superintendent agreement subcommittee. 1721 01:07:31,359 --> 01:07:32,880 Do you want to explain this? 1722 01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,920 >> Sure. the a few years back we created a 1723 01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,000 superintendent agreement to kind of 1724 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,319 supplement the fact that we don't have a 1725 01:07:40,319 --> 01:07:44,160 strong or 38 agreement. Um 1726 01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:45,920 >> I'm just going all the town archives 1727 01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:47,119 that 1728 01:07:47,119 --> 01:07:48,400 >> no one's found it. If someone finds 1729 01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:52,160 their attic, please bring it forward. Um 1730 01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,799 and part of that so in that plan 1731 01:07:54,799 --> 01:07:56,559 basically um you know it gave some 1732 01:07:56,559 --> 01:08:00,319 guidance on how to um hire dismiss the 1733 01:08:00,319 --> 01:08:01,839 superintendent 1734 01:08:01,839 --> 01:08:04,960 um and gave some some language in there. 1735 01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:06,400 it says that we will review it 1736 01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:09,039 every two years um and so we're due to 1737 01:08:09,039 --> 01:08:10,400 review it. At the same time, there's 1738 01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:12,960 also talk about um should we start 1739 01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,039 adding to it and adding some of the 1740 01:08:15,039 --> 01:08:16,880 other things that we do collectively as 1741 01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:19,199 a joint committee to just formalize it 1742 01:08:19,199 --> 01:08:21,920 in language and structure so that the 1743 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:23,679 good practices that we're doing can 1744 01:08:23,679 --> 01:08:26,400 carry on and be formalized. And an 1745 01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:29,440 example of that would be um let's say we 1746 01:08:29,440 --> 01:08:32,719 went to approve the school calendar and 1747 01:08:32,719 --> 01:08:35,120 um this committee was just diehard 1748 01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:36,640 summer people and like we're not coming 1749 01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,359 back to school till after Labor Day and 1750 01:08:39,359 --> 01:08:40,960 you know and the rest of the committee 1751 01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:42,239 is like well we usually go back before 1752 01:08:42,239 --> 01:08:43,600 Labor Day and they said nope we're 1753 01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:45,839 voting to you know what that would have 1754 01:08:45,839 --> 01:08:48,319 consequences if one group went road 1755 01:08:48,319 --> 01:08:50,319 without having you know some sort of 1756 01:08:50,319 --> 01:08:52,080 structure about how do we vote the 1757 01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:53,440 school calendar but there's a lot of 1758 01:08:53,440 --> 01:08:55,120 other things in there as too there we 1759 01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:57,839 can talk about but from how to evaluate 1760 01:08:57,839 --> 01:09:00,159 the superintendent um how to you know 1761 01:09:00,159 --> 01:09:01,920 some of the other kind of ins and out 1762 01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:04,319 workings that we do um just so that we 1763 01:09:04,319 --> 01:09:07,759 have a process that can outlive the the 1764 01:09:07,759 --> 01:09:09,040 people in the room who have done it for 1765 01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:10,080 so long you know what I mean because 1766 01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,480 that's a lot of our and I think I had 1767 01:09:12,480 --> 01:09:14,400 this conversation 1768 01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:17,600 maybe it was at it was at Frontier but 1769 01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,759 there's no UN38 agreement but one did 1770 01:09:19,759 --> 01:09:21,839 exist and the reason why I know that is 1771 01:09:21,839 --> 01:09:24,319 that a lot of our practices look just 1772 01:09:24,319 --> 01:09:28,640 like um Lake Silver Lake Regional 1773 01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:29,520 District 1774 01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,159 >> which is was also is down in kind of 1775 01:09:32,159 --> 01:09:34,719 southeastern Massachusetts. Um when you 1776 01:09:34,719 --> 01:09:35,920 look at some of the practice they had 1777 01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,400 they looked very similar to what we did 1778 01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:40,400 as a regional group in how decisions 1779 01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:42,080 were made and that kind of stuff. So 1780 01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:43,759 there was institutional knowledge that 1781 01:09:43,759 --> 01:09:45,120 started from something. So there had to 1782 01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:46,960 be a regional agreement somewhere. I 1783 01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:48,799 don't think people say they can't find I 1784 01:09:48,799 --> 01:09:51,679 really do think it existed. So, um I I 1785 01:09:51,679 --> 01:09:54,560 think we slowly want to rebuild that. If 1786 01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,400 we try to do it all, I think what 1787 01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:59,760 happens is um there's a lot of like 1788 01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:01,360 really touchy subject about funding and 1789 01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:03,520 that kind of stuff that we have set that 1790 01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:05,040 you try to open that can of worms, 1791 01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:06,480 you're not going to get be able to get 1792 01:10:06,480 --> 01:10:08,640 the operations done. So, this is kind of 1793 01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:12,000 like a kind of a sideway of doing um 1794 01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,600 getting some of the stuff that we're 1795 01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:15,600 already doing kind of functional and 1796 01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,280 then eventually if we ever have a 1797 01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,520 regional discussion, it can be folded in 1798 01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,520 easily and and like this works, you 1799 01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:23,360 know, that kind of thing. That's the 1800 01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,360 idea anyway. So, we want to get so all 1801 01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:27,199 that to say, we want to get the 1802 01:10:27,199 --> 01:10:28,719 subcommittee together and we need 1803 01:10:28,719 --> 01:10:30,239 someone um appointed from this 1804 01:10:30,239 --> 01:10:33,040 committee. 1805 01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:34,960 >> Amanda, you said you would be willing to 1806 01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:35,760 serve on this committee. 1807 01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:37,199 >> I'm happy to. Yeah. Thank you. 1808 01:10:37,199 --> 01:10:40,080 >> I'm also interested because I helped 1809 01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,640 write the original the document two 1810 01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,040 years ago. So was on that committee. So 1811 01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,280 I'm okay either way. I mean new blood is 1812 01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,760 good but knowing the history. 1813 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,080 >> Um I know Amanda's interested and I'm 1814 01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:53,360 interested in spreading around the 1815 01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,040 opportunities. 1816 01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:56,880 So I I will appoint Amanda. 1817 01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:58,880 >> Oh not voted on. Okay. 1818 01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,199 >> Yeah. Yeah. 1819 01:11:01,199 --> 01:11:04,480 All right. Uh reports any committee 1820 01:11:04,480 --> 01:11:07,590 reports? 1821 01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,480 I'm still working on rural aid. Um we 1822 01:11:10,480 --> 01:11:12,480 might get a restoration of the cut for 1823 01:11:12,480 --> 01:11:14,719 FY26. There is going to be a fair share 1824 01:11:14,719 --> 01:11:16,560 supplemental budget. So there might 1825 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:20,239 still be some money coming there. And um 1826 01:11:20,239 --> 01:11:21,600 uh the rural schools committee is trying 1827 01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:23,040 to meet with a member of the governor's 1828 01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:25,920 team to try to get more in rural aid in 1829 01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:30,800 the governor's budget very very soon. 1830 01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:37,360 Any other committee updates? Capital committee hasn't met, 1831 01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:39,679 >> Okay. Uh collaborative update, Joe. 1832 01:11:39,679 --> 01:11:42,320 >> Yep. Tomorrow's a big day. We have three 1833 01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,880 finalists. I can tell you there. They 1834 01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:46,239 came out public yesterday. Some of you 1835 01:11:46,239 --> 01:11:47,679 might have seen them 1836 01:11:47,679 --> 01:11:48,960 >> for executive director. 1837 01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,360 we started with 1838 01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:53,760 40 something applications nationwide. We 1839 01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:57,199 hired a company from uh Texas who's been 1840 01:11:57,199 --> 01:12:00,080 excellent um 1841 01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,640 really knowledgeable and worked well 1842 01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:04,719 with a really diverse team. We have 10 1843 01:12:04,719 --> 01:12:07,360 people on the executive uh search 1844 01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:10,400 committee. Three staff the staff at the 1845 01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,880 collaborative have felt they needed more 1846 01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,040 voice over the last two searches. So 1847 01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:18,480 they add it this time uh the the we went 1848 01:12:18,480 --> 01:12:21,679 from the 42 he narrowed it down to 19 1849 01:12:21,679 --> 01:12:23,679 and then we took the 19 and narrowed it 1850 01:12:23,679 --> 01:12:26,480 down to five semi- finalists and now we 1851 01:12:26,480 --> 01:12:28,640 have three finalists. 1852 01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,520 one five just in alphabetical order is 1853 01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:35,840 um Porsche Bonner who's a superintendent 1854 01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:40,800 Northampton right now and then we have 1855 01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:42,560 um 1856 01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:45,920 uh Thomas Deni who's actually 1857 01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:49,040 chair the exec director is retiring of a 1858 01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:53,199 Connecticut ACES program uh very big 1859 01:12:53,199 --> 01:12:57,840 $150 million budget there uh so about 1860 01:12:57,840 --> 01:12:59,360 three times times the size of what we 1861 01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:05,600 do. Uh but so he's uh second um uh 1862 01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:07,760 member of this finalist group. And then 1863 01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:12,239 the third one is Andre Morgan who's 1864 01:13:12,239 --> 01:13:14,400 actually he's done a bunch of different 1865 01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:15,920 things. He's actually head of school at 1866 01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,080 a school in Texas at one point. He's 1867 01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:20,480 from this area, not this area, but from 1868 01:13:20,480 --> 01:13:22,960 New England. currently is the HR in 1869 01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:24,960 Beverly for their school district which 1870 01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:27,600 has had some interesting 1871 01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:30,719 notary in the news. So those are the 1872 01:13:30,719 --> 01:13:34,000 three. Uh it was interesting. 1873 01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:37,760 We we voted with a um point system 1874 01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:41,040 54321. We had won those finals and these 1875 01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:44,640 three were 37 35 and 35. So it's going 1876 01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:47,120 to be interesting when we sit down 1877 01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:49,600 tomorrow. starts at five o'clock, you 1878 01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,159 know, so turn it on TV if you want. It's 1879 01:13:52,159 --> 01:13:53,520 public hearing. 1880 01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,480 >> Uh, but I think it's going to be a long 1881 01:13:56,480 --> 01:13:58,560 each candidate will interview for 70 1882 01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,320 minutes and then we'll start 1883 01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,560 deliberating around 8:30 or 9. 1884 01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:04,000 >> Wow. 1885 01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:06,080 >> And is the deliberation public? 1886 01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,800 >> Uh, the deliberation goes into um 1887 01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:10,320 >> executive session. Yes. Okay. 1888 01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:13,280 >> Yeah. So, all the interview questions. 1889 01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:16,400 So there's we we created a set questions 1890 01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:18,400 that the chair is going to read just for 1891 01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:19,600 efficiency. 1892 01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:21,600 >> Uh Kathy Inglehart will read each one 1893 01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:24,560 and then there is a brief moment or time 1894 01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:27,199 for uh the rest of the board because the 1895 01:14:27,199 --> 01:14:30,960 board's 37 people uh to ask questions 1896 01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:32,960 but it's limited time limited. So those 1897 01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:34,320 are already asked questions. We're not 1898 01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:36,960 asking it. if other people have um extra 1899 01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:38,800 and then there's time for the candidate 1900 01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,440 to say their piece at the beginning and 1901 01:14:41,440 --> 01:14:44,159 at the end, but it will be it's going to 1902 01:14:44,159 --> 01:14:46,080 be a long night I think. So, we'll see. 1903 01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:49,120 But I'll let you all know when we after 1904 01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,040 that the the chair and the vice chair 1905 01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:56,790 will negotiate the rest of the contract. 1906 01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:58,640 » Yeah, I've learned I mean I've learned a 1907 01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:01,520 lot. Um one of the candidates that 1908 01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:04,159 didn't quite make it was the CFO. You 1909 01:15:04,159 --> 01:15:06,560 probably know her from um the Pioneer 1910 01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,040 Valley, lower valley. Pioneer Valley. 1911 01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:13,679 She helped she's been there 25 years and 1912 01:15:13,679 --> 01:15:15,679 she helped negotiate the the lower 1913 01:15:15,679 --> 01:15:20,800 valley's transportation system for SEIS. 1914 01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:25,199 So they have 250 vehicles that they help 1915 01:15:25,199 --> 01:15:26,880 their all their member schools get 1916 01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:29,040 supports. I mean started small. I asked 1917 01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:30,640 her I said how do you do that like but 1918 01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:32,480 what wouldn't that be great if we had it 1919 01:15:32,480 --> 01:15:35,840 with the collaborative here? So, um, 1920 01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:39,679 it's just economy scale. I mean, they'll pick up kids that are coming 1921 01:15:39,679 --> 01:15:42,719 from, you know, they could go to Conway, 1922 01:15:42,719 --> 01:15:44,239 Weightley, Sunderland, and then take 1923 01:15:44,239 --> 01:15:45,760 them to Hec Academy or wherever you're 1924 01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:47,920 going to take them. And it was pretty 1925 01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:49,440 interesting to hear something we might 1926 01:15:49,440 --> 01:15:51,840 want to tap later down, you know, down 1927 01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:54,640 the road is like, okay, how do we do 1928 01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,120 that? You know, slow and build. You 1929 01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:59,440 know, they talked about economy of scale 1930 01:15:59,440 --> 01:16:00,800 and bidding with transportation 1931 01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:02,239 companies that you're so much more 1932 01:16:02,239 --> 01:16:04,880 powerful when you have more people to 1933 01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:06,719 bid, you know, to offer the bid to. So, 1934 01:16:06,719 --> 01:16:09,280 you know, we know we we have just not a 1935 01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:10,719 lot of people to ask the bid for, but 1936 01:16:10,719 --> 01:16:13,280 that's some ideas that come out. Learned 1937 01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:14,960 a lot about PD that the collaborative 1938 01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:18,080 has. So, you know, in upcoming months, 1939 01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:19,760 maybe I'll bring some more stuff that 1940 01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:22,239 the collaborative could help us with, 1941 01:16:22,239 --> 01:16:26,550 especially with our budget issues. 1942 01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:27,920 Thank you for serving on that committee. 1943 01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:28,960 That sounds like that was a really big 1944 01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:31,199 commitment. 1945 01:16:31,199 --> 01:16:33,840 >> Last week it was uh we l luckily an ice 1946 01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:35,760 storm so it went from instead of from 9 1947 01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:37,120 it went from 11:00 to 5:00 and then 1948 01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:41,280 Thursday was 9 to5. So there's a lot 1949 01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:43,440 >> but it's interesting because all those 1950 01:16:43,440 --> 01:16:46,320 it's just western Massachusetts and all 1951 01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:47,760 the different 1952 01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:49,440 >> um schools and the different needs and 1953 01:16:49,440 --> 01:16:51,440 the different focus points and 1954 01:16:51,440 --> 01:16:53,440 perspectives. 1955 01:16:53,440 --> 01:16:56,320 I I I watched the movie Angry Men from 1956 01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:58,000 1957 1957 01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:00,000 with Henry Bond just because it's feels 1958 01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:01,199 a little like that sometimes you're in 1959 01:17:01,199 --> 01:17:02,560 this room and you're deliberating. You 1960 01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:04,560 start a little bit on one side and by 1961 01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:07,840 the end it's changed um because people 1962 01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,000 have voiced 1963 01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:14,310 worthwhile opinions. 1964 01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:15,360 » Thank you. 1965 01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:17,679 >> Thanks for the update and a 1966 01:17:17,679 --> 01:17:20,239 superintendent report. Um yeah, should 1967 01:17:20,239 --> 01:17:23,440 be part of your packet. I included the 1968 01:17:23,440 --> 01:17:26,719 statewide graduation council update. Um 1969 01:17:26,719 --> 01:17:29,120 and it's in the handout with that. Um 1970 01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:30,400 just just so you know what's going it 1971 01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:31,520 doesn't really affect the elementary, 1972 01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:36,960 but you know what's happening at the at the in the end zone of of 1973 01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:39,600 secondary and what's going on there. And 1974 01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:43,440 I just give the outline to this that the budget timeline for the state budget 1975 01:17:43,440 --> 01:17:45,199 for a reminder about how that process 1976 01:17:45,199 --> 01:17:46,960 works because I kind of have to review 1977 01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:48,480 it every year too because I forget how 1978 01:17:48,480 --> 01:17:51,760 the timeline. It's a long one and it's a 1979 01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:52,960 lot of back and forth and a lot of 1980 01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:57,030 discussions along the way. 1981 01:17:57,040 --> 01:17:59,360 » Well, thank you. There's no further 1982 01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:00,719 business. We could take a motion to 1983 01:18:00,719 --> 01:18:02,640 adjurnn. 1984 01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:06,960 >> A motion to adjourn. A second. 1985 01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,440 >> All right. All in favor of adjournment, 1986 01:18:09,440 --> 01:18:10,640 can you do a roll call? 1987 01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:11,440 >> Megan, 1988 01:18:11,440 --> 01:18:13,360 >> yes. Live, 1989 01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:14,560 >> yes. 1990 01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:15,040 >> Joe, 1991 01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:15,440 >> yes. 1992 01:18:15,440 --> 01:18:16,000 >> Jessica, 1993 01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:16,400 >> yes. 1994 01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:18,320 >> Amanda, yes. All right. And we are 1995 01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:21,199 adjourned at 6:23 p.m. Thank you 1996 01:18:21,199 --> 01:18:24,199 everybody.