[This transcript was generated automatically from audio using AI and hasn't been reviewed by a person -- it can contain mistakes, including plausible-sounding sentences that were never actually said. Treat it as a starting point, not a verbatim record.] [0:00] Good evening. [1:38] Good evening to all Russian abide members. [2:05] Good evening everyone. I'm going to give you a few minutes to settle in. We'll start in just a few minutes. [2:57] Before we begin, we're going to play an opening statement, but why don't you just take this opportunity to silence your phones, please? [4:12] Good evening. [4:15] Good evening everyone. Welcome to everyone. Thank you for coming. It is 632 and calling the meeting to order. [4:22] Thank you. [4:23] Commissioner Joseph. [4:25] Present. [4:26] Commissioner Lama. [4:28] Commissioner Stuyvesen. [4:29] Here. [4:30] Vice Mayor of this car. [4:31] Here. [4:31] Mayor's fashion. [4:32] Here. [4:32] All members present. [4:36] Thank you. [4:41] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands. [4:48] One nation, under God, invisible with liberty and justice for all. [4:54] Thank you. [4:54] We do not have an invocation today. [5:00] But I do want to welcome everyone before we start. Welcome to our regulars. I see former mayor Eddle Cuffin for a mayor. Golden in our here. Welcome and I see our Easter is back. So it's nice to see you somewhere. Okay. Marisa, first item. [5:17] First item on the agenda is three a approval of the minutes of the July 16th, 2026 meeting. [5:23] Okay. Do you have a motion? [5:25] Motion. [5:26] Second. [5:28] Favorite? [5:29] All right. [5:30] Marisa? [5:31] Okay. [5:31] Let's play your opening statement. [5:44] Meaning, ladies and gentlemen, we appreciate your attendance and thank you for joining us [5:49] tonight. [5:50] Before we begin, there are a few important reminders regarding conduct during our commission [5:56] meetings. 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[8:51] Okay, thank you. [8:52] I'm just gonna add to this like I normally do. [8:55] The acoustics in this room are great, [8:58] which means that we hear all your conversations. [9:01] If you need to speak to your neighbor, [9:02] please take it outside [9:03] because it's very distracting to us, [9:05] plus we hear your entire conversation. [9:09] So you may not want that. [9:10] The other thing is that for many of you, [9:12] this is your first time being here. [9:14] I'm going to repeatedly explain the rules because I want to be able to participate if you'd [9:19] like to. [9:20] In the back, there's public speaking cards. [9:22] If you choose to speak on an item, go ahead and do that now. [9:25] You can later on change your mind and say, I don't want to speak on it, but once public comment [9:29] is closed, you will not be able to speak. [9:33] So public comment comes before the commission speaks and then it's closed and then the commission [9:38] speaks. [9:40] So if anybody wants, go ahead and do that. [9:42] you give it to the clerk, but one public comment is closed. [9:45] It's closed. [9:46] Raise your hand. [9:48] OK. [9:48] The first item we'll be considering tonight [9:50] is exoning application 5A. [9:54] And it's an application requested by Sunny Smart Corp. [10:01] Reconitional use for a child care facility at the property located at 173-95-Cons Avenue. [10:09] Before we start, I need to read the zoning opening statement one second. [10:18] So every ladies and gentlemen, this evening's agenda has one zoning application, [10:22] and the city commission will be conducting public hearings review and consider these applications. [10:27] In these matters, the city commission sits in a quasi-judicial capacity, and will hear [10:32] testimony from city staff, the applicants and members of the public. [10:36] The materials attached to the agenda are considered part of the record, as well as any additional [10:40] documentary evidence that is introduced and accepted into the record during the hearing. [10:46] If you intend to speak or provide testimony on any zoning application, you must be sworn [10:50] in by the city clerk, and should also fill out a public speaker's card and give it to the [10:57] When you are called to speak, please state your name and the record on the record, your address, and whether you've been sworn in. [11:04] Please make your comments concisely. [11:06] As a matter of procedure, the city staff will present first. [11:10] After city staff has made their presentation, the applicant will make their presentation and support of their application. [11:17] Their after, the hearings will be open to members of the public to speak and support of or against the pending application. [11:23] The City Commission may set reasonable time limits for members of the public to speak. [11:28] After members of the public speak, both staff and the applicants may make additional statements [11:33] or rebuttal and the applicants have the right to cross-examine any witness. [11:37] Thereafter, the public hearing portion of the item will be closed and the commission [11:41] will commence deliberations and make a decision on the application. [11:45] Ultimately, the decision made by the City Commission at the conclusion of the hearing [11:49] must be based upon competence's substantial evidence, which has been presented during the course of the hearing, [11:55] and must adhere to the essential requirements of the law. [11:58] Competence's substantial evidence is defined as evidence that is sufficiently relevant and material [12:03] that a reasonable mind would accept as adequate to support the conclusion reached, and includes [12:09] the documentary evidence and the record, the city's staff report. [12:14] comments or opinions of professional staff, [12:17] fact-based comments of neighbors, residents, and laypersons. [12:21] And opinion testimony, but only witnesses were qualified as experts. [12:26] Competence of sexual evidence does not include [12:28] conjecture, speculation, or generalize opinions or statements in support, [12:33] or in opposition to the matter. [12:35] Attorney testimony is generally not competent [12:37] substantial evidence unless the attorney has some expertise in a relevant area. [12:44] And one second, so in accordance with the LDRs of the City of Sanialis Beach, all items to be heard today have been legally advertised, notices have been mailed and posted on the properties. [12:56] All persons wishing to speak at this hearing, please raise your right arm to be sworn in. [13:03] Anyone there will be? [13:03] Just for this item. [13:05] Just for this item. [13:05] Just for this item. [13:06] Do you use where the testimony you're about to give the truth, the whole truth, and not the but the truth's all up you got? [13:10] I do. [13:11] Thank you. [13:13] And before we continue with the assistant planning on the director, [13:18] are there any expert communications that the commission is disclosed? [13:22] No. [13:23] Not me. [13:26] Commissioner. [13:26] Lama. [13:33] Yeah, like I said, yes. [13:34] This. [13:35] Okay. [13:35] For the side of me. [13:36] Yes. [13:36] And what was the nature of the conversation? [13:40] I spoke with the, uh, with the owner, with the applicant. [13:43] About the application. [13:44] That's all. [13:45] Okay. [13:52] My name is Brittany Austin. I am the assistant planning and zoning director. I'm filling in for the director while she's on leave. [13:59] So, do we have the presentation? [14:02] Sorry. [14:05] This evening, we will be discussing zoning hearing PZ-26-07. [14:11] It is a conditional use application for Sunny's might day care. [14:16] And the applicant, Sunny's smart core, is requesting approval of a child day care facility [14:21] within Unit 103 of Winston-Towers Plasm. [14:25] The applicant has been in this location since 2022, as an activity center, however she was [14:31] recently required by the Department of Children and Families update her local [14:35] flight sensor to reflect a child daycare use. [14:39] So the Winston-Towers Plaza is located in the RMF 2 zoning district [14:43] where child daycare facilities are permitted upon the approval of a [14:47] conditional use application. And conditional uses are those which impact [14:51] its surrounding neighborhood and must be evaluated on a case by case basis. [14:56] So for example, in the case of a daycare you have [15:00] People coming and going two times a day for child pickup and drop off and you have noises created by outside play areas. [15:12] There are seven conditional use criteria, which must be met in order to grant approval. Each of these are evaluated in detail on pages 4 through 6 of the staff report provided to you in your agenda. [15:23] And we can go through these one by one at the end of the presentation if it is the pleasure of the commission to do so. [15:30] Let's staff us found that all these criteria have been satisfied. [15:35] So, once all of the conditional use criteria are met, the specific use standards in this city's land development regulations must be evaluated. [15:44] So, part of the conditions of approval are that the applicant to meet the standards for child-day care facilities, namely parking and stacking. [15:51] In 1996, a parking variance was granted for the shopping [15:55] Plaza requiring the property to maintain a minimum of 48 parking spaces, [16:01] and currently there are 51 spaces provided exceeding the minimum required amount [16:05] of parking for this plaza. [16:08] Five automobiles stacking spaces are required for day cares with more than 60 children. [16:13] So the stacking requirement for both day cares within the plaza, the one that's being proposed [16:19] in the existing one-on-one-one-one-one-two are satisfied with the reservation of these five spaces [16:24] for the daycares. So this agreement between the tenant and the landlord is to be recorded in [16:31] a dedication of restrictions, declaration of restrictions, sorry. [16:38] So Miami-Dade County establishes [16:40] the minimum standards for outdoor play area. Children up to five years old require 45 feet [16:47] each per child calculated in terms of half of the maximum number of children for attendance at [16:53] the school at any one time. So children between the ages of six and nine years old require [17:01] 500 square feet per child. With the total outdoor play area of 712 square feet, the application [17:08] is deficient in meeting the area needs of all children outside at one time to meet the space requirements [17:14] for child only 15 preschool children or one elementary age child are permitted in the play area [17:21] at one time. [17:25] So Miami-Dade County, let me just stop you for a second. But we get some interest, please. [17:30] You didn't. Okay, thank you. [17:33] Miami-Dade County also establishes the minimum standards for [17:36] classroom area, instructional area is calculated by subtracting out all kitchen areas, corridors, [17:43] bathrooms hallways, and any space that isn't used strictly for the instruction of children. [17:49] Children up to five years old require 35 square feet per student of instructional area, elementary school students require 30 square feet per student. [17:58] The total area required for all of the children proposed by the applicant is 2008 square feet. [18:05] The facility only has a total of 2007 square feet. [18:10] Therefore, the maximum number of children must be reduced to meet the required square footage per pupil. [18:14] a deficiency of 73-square feet means that there are either three too many preschool children [18:21] or three too many elementary school children. Therefore, if the total amount of children is reduced [18:26] by three, from either age group the instructional area requirement is meant. [18:36] So staff recommends [18:37] approval of this application with the following conditions that future permits and license [18:43] relations applications made to the city will be in substantial accordance with the plans [18:48] approved in this conditional use application that the applicant will obtain all necessary [18:54] permits and licenses from external agencies that the proposed daycare facility shall comply [19:00] with the specific use regulations that no more than 15 preschool children or one elementary school [19:06] child shall be permitted in the outdoor play area at one time no more than 60 children shall be enrolled [19:11] at anyone's time, and the five dedicated parking spaces [19:15] shall be maintained for the duration of the child care facilities, [19:20] and an amended declaration of restrictions shall be recorded with the Miami-Dade [19:24] Clerk of Court, the approved conditional U shall be valid for a period of 24 months, [19:31] and within that time, the applicant has to apply for the local business tax [19:35] receipt and the certificate of use is what that means. [19:38] The applicant complies with all local state and federal laws. [19:46] That's it. [19:47] Thank you. [19:48] Does the applicant want to say a few words? [19:50] You don't have to. [19:51] You'd like to? [19:52] Okay. [19:55] There's some extra seats in the front. [19:58] If you'd like to. [19:59] There's two. [19:59] At least. [20:15] I would like to say thank you for having me and giving me the opportunity to explain our program. We truly appreciate your time, attention and continue commitment to the children's and family of Sonia's speech. [20:31] So Nismar has proudly served these communities since 2018. [20:36] We originally open and has a gymnastics center for children and adults. [20:40] As we recognize the community needs for additional and educational activities, we approach [20:45] the city and receive approval to expand our program to include valid, art, martial art, [20:51] science and continue with the gymnastics classes. [20:54] Over the years, our program has continued to grow in response to the need of local families. [20:59] Many parents have asked for the children to remain with us for longer period of time, so they can participate in several instructor classes. [21:07] This is why, in order to keep children few hours per day, DCF, Department of Education, Families, recommends to change from instructional skills to childcare. [21:18] In order to change for the childcare, we need to approve of the series of Sonia's speech. [21:22] For this reason, we respectfully request a serious system in update in our certificate of use [21:28] to childcare in order for us to be in compliance with the Department of Children's [21:32] and Families. [21:33] We are fully committed to work transparently with every department and comply with all [21:37] applicable safety, licensing and operational requirements. [21:40] Thank you for your time, consideration and continuous support of Sonia Smart and the families [21:45] will proudly serve. [21:46] Thank you. [21:48] Thanks. [21:48] Thanks. [21:48] Thanks. [21:48] with a cute picture. [21:50] Maurice, do we have public speakers? [21:52] We do. [21:53] And just before I call up the first speaker, [21:55] I want to know for the record [21:56] that we did we see some correspondence. [21:59] One was from Richard Dewitt, from government law group. [22:03] And the other one is from Mrs. Stewart, [22:07] Greg's Gell, who will be speaking, [22:09] and happens to be the first one. [22:11] All right, if there's anyone that wants to speak on the item, [22:13] this is your opportunity before I close the public comment. [22:16] So you can go ahead and take out a public speaking card on this item. Please go ahead. [22:24] Thank you, Ms. Mayor. If you can start the clock after I give my customary hello. [22:28] We can, but I just want to remind everyone that all your comments are directed towards me the chair and we don't go back and forth. [22:35] So we don't answer questions. You have your three minutes. It's your time to stay almost anything you want. [22:41] Mayor Simon, first time at a podium. Thank you. [22:43] And they are, I'd like to thank you very much for being a great bear and hosting one of [22:47] the best cities in Miami-Dade County. [22:49] I'd like to thank all Councilmen. [22:50] I'd also like to point out our city manager and our city attorney's being great additions [22:55] to this city. [22:57] I think without would be a detriment to the city. [23:00] I have submitted more detailed letter for the official records. [23:03] I'll keep my comments pre-understand tonight's applications for conditional use of daycare. [23:08] It's not itself a rezoning of the property which would mean 70 units per one acre and a hundred and ninety feet approximately. [23:16] My comments are not intended to oppose the child care to be clear. [23:21] I understand that the larger concern is the future use of this property and it's not that current zoning as I mentioned. [23:29] Whether the future developer can use the existing developer rights to construct a more advanced high rise as resulted changing the zoning. [23:37] And instead utilize the capacity in any way to consider later, which would be too late. [23:44] And would ask the city council and its planner to maybe consider using the variant to the actual business that's there and not to the property, which is also not to option. [23:54] I ask the city attorney some simple questions. [23:57] If the property was sold to a developer tomorrow, what current prevents that developer from pursuing a high-rise residential building, [24:04] taking advantage of the additional allowances that have been given here, possibly tonight. [24:10] If the D care applications have proved, which I hope is, I ask the approval for specifically [24:15] state, a grant no additional height density, intensity floor area redevelopment rights [24:20] or the seatant for future development as a result of this acceptance. [24:26] Finally, I ask the commissioner to direct the city attorney and planning department to investigate [24:30] the lawful permanent way to protect that property at North Bay Road's neighborhood from inappropriate [24:36] high rise development beyond the current statute before a development application is filed. [24:42] Again, reminding everyone in the audience, it's already approved for 190 foot, [24:47] which is approximately 20 stories. I ask the commissioner as well. Thank you very much for [24:52] tonight. And again, I would like to direct a personal thank you for Winston Tower's [24:56] to our city attorney, our city manager, and our director. [25:04] Thank you. Thank you very much. Do we have any other speakers? [25:10] Okay. So I'm closing public comment. Going once. All right. Public comment is closed. I'll take comments or questions from the commission. [25:18] Mr. Jones, let's go ahead. [25:19] You have the floor? [25:20] Yes, thank you. [25:21] So I noticed there's a typo at Item 5A, [25:26] or CEO, it shows the address is 1, 7, 3, 9, 5, Collins Avenue. [25:34] That's incorrect. [25:38] One second. [25:40] Should be North Bay. [25:40] Brittany, could you confirm the address? [25:45] Yes. [25:46] The address is 1, 7, 3, 9, 5, North Bay Road, sweet one, North Bay Road. [25:50] So what are, what? [25:51] under what address was the publishing done? [25:55] I'm sorry. [25:56] Under what address was the publishing done? [25:58] No, the notice was published correctly. [26:02] Okay. [26:02] It's just listed on the title. [26:05] Okay. [26:05] That's right. [26:06] I wanted to make sure. [26:09] Thank you. [26:09] Is it? [26:10] Yes. [26:10] All right. [26:11] Vice Mayor? [26:19] Well, I don't have any questions per se. [26:22] but a city attorney did you have an opportunity to read the letters that were sent to us today, you know? [26:28] I did. [26:29] Did you have any comments on, I'll tell you my, I guess I do have a question. [26:39] The one from GLG government mentions, let me see, [26:51] that the conditional approval used solely authorizes [26:54] sunny smart court to operate the facility and any change of the lease or operate or requires [27:01] a submittal. That's probably addressed within our procedures but it's actually your code's [27:07] not written that way for the individual owner. It's actually for the, it's a zoning item, right? [27:12] So it's for the property itself and the unit. Certainly if there's a subsequent owner that comes [27:17] in and deviates from the operation or the use of the particular zoning conditional use, [27:23] They have to come back to the city even this operator if they deviate from what's approved or if approved this evening [27:33] They would have to come back to the city and approve that deviation through you or through the city manager [27:39] But it typically would be through you [27:43] But it wouldn't be appropriate to condition it on the one property owner [27:48] Only because your code really doesn't account for that [27:51] you really can't amend your code through a conditional, [27:54] a condition of one of your resolutions. [27:57] So I would say no to that. [27:58] OK. [27:59] Thank you. [28:00] And just briefly, Mr. Brace's little point. [28:04] What's being approved tonight would not impact [28:06] the availability of the particular project, [28:11] or that particular structure that would be guided [28:14] by your code, it's not impacted at all. [28:17] All right, thank you. [28:18] Commissioner Lam any questions? [28:19] No, no questions. All right. I'll take a motion. So moved. [28:23] Give me a second. [28:25] Where is your? [28:27] Commissioner Lama. Yes. [28:31] Commissioner Joseph. Yes. [28:33] Commissioner Stuyvesen. Yes. [28:35] Nice to meet you. Yes. [28:37] Yes. [28:37] Mayor Stuyvesen. Yes. [28:39] The application is approved by the zero. [28:41] Thank you. [28:43] No, no clapping. Please. No clapping. [28:47] Okay. Next item, please. [28:48] Next item is ordinances for second reading. [28:52] 8A is an ordinance of the City Commission of the City of Sonia, [28:55] I'll speech. [28:55] I'm ending ordinance number 2025-635. [28:59] Approving Budget Amendment number BA-25-03 to the City's [29:04] operating capital improvement budget for the 2025-2026 fiscal year. [29:09] Authorised in the City Manager to do all things as a [29:11] say to implement the terms and conditions of this ordinance. [29:14] I'm providing for an effective date. [29:15] Okay, ladies and gentlemen, there are a lot of use, even if you're whispering, and there's a few of you doing that, it sounds really loud up here. So please, okay, go ahead. [29:26] Who's it presenting? [29:28] Mayor Vice Mayor, members of the Commission, this is the second reading of our budget coordinates that transfers funds for a citywide security project that includes supporting public safety initiatives, including the drone program, CCTV cameras at bus stops and real time. [29:45] Rhymes Center Video Hype Wall System. [29:49] Thank you. Are there any public speakers? [29:53] Yes, ma'am. Steven Hersch. [29:58] Steven Hersch. [30:00] 211 Collins. Good evening. After the first rating of this proposal that obviously passed and will likely [30:12] be passed tonight, during the last month I've had several questions from people inquiring as to the [30:21] money that has been moved around for this appropriation and a lot of it was [30:30] directed to the need for its intended purpose which is to increase the [30:38] public safety of all of our residents in this city. The explanation is [30:45] is clearly that a police department [30:48] to be successful, and I say this just with my years of background, [30:54] not just that I have no knowledge of how police departments [30:57] should be operated. [31:01] But clearly, there's a few things that are required. [31:04] First, of course, professionally qualified personnel. [31:06] There's no question we have that. [31:09] And I believe if I'm not incorrect, [31:12] This is one of the first times in a while that we're fully funded of our staffing, which is excellent. [31:19] Second matter is proper training. There's no question our officers are very well trained in service training. [31:27] Third is the current public standards, policies and procedures being certified by the Commission for Law Enforcement and 2023 guarantees. [31:37] Our officers have that continued training. [31:40] But finally, the most important one in my opinion is that officers must have state-of-the-art [31:47] equipment and technology to protect our residents and to be able to protect property [31:55] identify or suspects as quickly as possible. [31:59] The allocated appropriation is to improve the various programs that our city manager just [32:07] and in particular it will integrate more than 10 different individual law enforcement systems that the police department already has right now. [32:18] It will integrate them into one particular system. [32:24] In particular is the real-time crime center. I'll talk about that when we get to that resolution item later. [32:30] But for every expenditure, the city should explain to our residents how this improves your quality of life. [32:38] The dollars transferred by the ordinance and the way that the money has been appropriated leaves no question of how residents will benefit from a safer sunny-house beach. [32:48] Thank you. [32:49] Thank you. [32:50] Do we have any much? [32:51] No, I'll just speak as well. [32:52] All right. [32:53] Public comment is closed. [32:54] I'll take questions or comments for the commission. [32:57] Mission Joseph, go ahead. [32:59] No, I'm good for that. [33:00] Okay, Commissioner Lama. [33:03] No, I'm good. Thanks, Mayor. [33:05] I'm okay, friend. [33:06] I'm sorry, excuse me. [33:07] Okay, I'll take a motion. [33:09] Motion. [33:11] Maricio. [33:14] Commissioner Joseph. [33:16] Yes. [33:17] Commissioner Stuyvesen. [33:20] Nice, Mayor Buscaro. [33:21] Commissioner Lama. [33:22] Yes, Mayor Stuyvesen. [33:24] Yes. [33:24] Your name's Patus Fights Zero. [33:26] Okay, next item. [33:28] Next item is in resolution sections and it's 9A resolution, approving a cell police agreement [33:37] with high center of sunny hours speech for a portion of personal number 7756 known as [33:44] Bellavista Bay parking lot for the development and maintenance of a public playground in [33:48] garden. [33:49] Okay, thank you. [33:51] What's with the manager? [33:52] Mayor Vice-marimum is the commission. [33:54] We have been in discussions with High Center of Sunniiles, who have expressed in interest [34:02] to build and operate a public recreation area in an unused open green space area that we [34:09] are the less source for from the Florida Department of Transportation. [34:15] There's no funding required for the approval of this sublease and F. dot will not charge rent and the full cost of the design construction and maintenance of the area will be the responsibility of high center as an affiliate of the Jewish community center. [34:34] Okay. Thank you. Do we have public speakers? [34:38] Yes, ma'am. [34:40] I'll examine the color. [34:53] Good evening. [34:54] Good evening. [34:54] Good night. [34:55] Good night. [34:56] I want to start tonight. [35:00] I thank the members of the community that are here to support us, that are here to support this issue. [35:07] And at the same time, it's somewhat bitter, sweet, isn't it ridiculous that so many people had to come out to support a playground and a community garden. [35:19] And the reason being, I'm sure you all know by now that after three years of us petitioning the Florida Department of Transportation, [35:29] to create additional public parking that will benefit everyone and creating the spark that will [35:34] benefit the children in our community. Unfortunately, there is some opposition or there was [35:41] some opposition against this and I don't say these words lightly but the reason for this opposition [35:48] is hatred, the oldest hatred of the mall that's called anti-Semitism. Last night when I sent a message [35:54] to the members of the community saying, please come out supporters because we may face some [35:59] opposition, a neighbor of the anti-Sammate sent me a message, I know who that is, that person [36:05] was not in the synagogue on Shabbat when I spoke about this and actually did not know [36:09] that today this issue was going to be discussed. [36:12] And the person says, I know it's probably her, because we have people praying in our building [36:17] and she tried fighting that also. [36:20] And every time this person is openly expressing her feeling towards the Jewish people. [36:25] So I would like to request from you, the Honorable Commission, to approve this, of course, [36:32] for the benefit of our community for the benefit of our children. [36:35] But I also think that this approval tonight, God willing, if we will receive it, [36:40] is going to be resounding no to the hatred and resounding yes to the unity and to the community [36:47] that we all live in this beautiful city. [36:50] It's the first time I think ever, correct me if I'm wrong, that public playground, or Park Garden, is being built with the charity money, with the community money, with the grant of a cartovelry family, who graciously supporting this endeavor, and we are here for the community, and we hope that you are elected officials, our fellow citizens and residents, going to see this project favorably, and to continue to support our community. [37:19] Thank you. Thank you Rabbi. [37:30] The next speaker is [37:33] Buelis. I'm sorry. It's a little difficult to read. Buelis, B. U. L. I. S. [37:40] Yeah, no. [37:41] Not Felix. [37:43] Buelis, dub, drinker, [37:45] Boris. [37:47] Okay. [37:48] Boris. [37:49] All right. [37:50] Ladies and gentlemen, I just want to please remind you, no, no, no clapping, please. [37:54] The Rabbi gets clapping, but that's it. [37:57] Good evening. [37:59] Hello, Boris. [38:00] If you could get a little bit closer, please. [38:02] Good evening. [38:03] Good evening. [38:03] Good evening, commissioners. [38:05] Let's say we are quickly introduced myself. [38:07] As I am Boris Dobryvka. [38:09] I am working for my day of contact public schools for almost 33 years, [38:14] with not English speaking students, [38:18] making a difference in any ways with them. [38:22] Today, I make only one question. [38:25] Children is my first priority and I believe that this ground supposed to be given to children [38:33] not to business. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Okay. [38:40] Dana Goldman. Okay. [38:49] Dana Goldman, 308, pointsy Anna Island Drive, sunny hours beach florida. [38:54] I've seen firsthand this school and the vibrancy and the wonderful energy that this [39:02] Senegal brings to our entire community and our city and I'm in complete support of the initiative [39:10] which is no cost to the city to bring playground and to serve the children and part of the community. [39:18] So, wholesale support for this initiative. [39:20] Thank you. [39:21] Next speaker. [39:24] Mike Weiss. [39:37] Mike, your name and I just for the record please. [39:39] Mike Weiss, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1. [39:44] Thank you. [39:45] My son goes to the school and the Chaban building and we've been in the community now for [39:54] three years and we've watched the school grow year after year. [40:00] And it's amazing to see these kids flourish in the environment and the environment of the community of the Khabad Center. [40:12] And what breaks my heart as a still a kid who grew up in Long Island in Suffolk County. [40:20] And we had a lot of playgrounds and woods and we had yards and football fields and tracks. [40:25] And I understand it's a little bit different in this scenario, but it breaks my heart to see them stuck under a bridge in a 25, 20 by 20 square of concrete going through shoes every two months from just running back and forth 20 feet this way 20 feet this way 20 feet this way and their kids and the unfortunate thing is that the grass is right there, but it's not really safe because it's kind of a little muddy and [40:55] And so we have something that's needed by the kids, which is an expanded area to play, which [41:04] is very important for the development and growth. [41:07] And I think now it's funded, and I think it would be a big bonus for the community and [41:13] for the city to be able to, you know, get the green light on this. [41:17] And it's not also just for the kids in that building, but it's also for the kids in the [41:25] in 163. And so it's not really possible for the kids in the Kabad Center and the schools that [41:33] it go down and cross because that is a beautiful park, whether big field and it's a great facility, [41:38] but it's dangerous to cross. So for the buildings on that side of 163 particularly up by [41:44] Kabad, I think it's going to benefit the entire community. Thank you. Thank you. [41:51] Felix Sukovovsky. [41:58] It looks like this scheme, 18625, Atlantic Boards, Sunny. [42:04] So we're here today to talk about a fearful subject, apparently, children's playground. [42:14] Who in the same mind would oppose children's playground? Anybody? [42:22] But I apologize to everybody. [42:25] I don't, I lack diplomatic skills of rabbi color, so I call things for the art, okay? [42:33] So what we're dealing with, and this is why there are so many people here today, [42:38] because they all feel the way I do, except they speak straight. [42:43] We have a very dirty and filthy disease, it's called antisemitism. [42:49] It's here, okay? [42:52] And let's be straight, we all know who that person is, Natalia Wilson, all in there of... [42:59] Sir. [43:00] We have rules of the quorum here. [43:02] We try very hard not to slander anyone, especially when they're non-godians. [43:05] You make, you make, you go best. [43:07] Thank you. [43:07] Sir, Mayor. [43:09] But we know who that is. [43:10] So, anyways, [43:14] we left USSR, not to deal with that. [43:18] And here we are. [43:19] We're dealing with that. [43:21] If, like any disease, this should be brought up to light, okay? [43:25] And what I'm here to ask the management of the city, [43:29] please do not become a tool of anti-Semi, [43:34] when you see anti-Semi, [43:36] blame for anti-Semi, see the word for what it is. [43:39] Okay, thank you. [43:40] Thank you, sir. [43:46] No, there's speakers. [43:47] No, there's speakers. [43:49] Okay. I'll take comments or questions in the commission. [43:54] Anyone? [43:58] I think the city's been cooperating with the, I mean, I feel like there's a disconnect here. [44:04] I'm not understanding the issue here to be honest with you. I think the city, we've been pro this playground from the beginning. [44:12] So, Mr. City. [44:13] I know that there's something negotiation. [44:15] No, no, I think that you're making a good point because if you can just give a little bit of backgrounds to give some context here and some of the opposition that [44:24] And there was about this project and then how that opposition changed, it would be helpful. [44:29] Sure, we've been working for a number of years with Rabbi Caller and an effort to try to assist [44:36] and work out some of the details with different things including the playground. [44:41] So at either the last meeting or the one before that, there was some opposition, [44:48] one resident regarding this moving forward. [44:51] So I created a little bit of controversy, but I think the city's position has always been clear and working to help the community. [45:00] So, the issue is that we as a city are not the owner of the property, but the Florida Department of Transportation. [45:08] So, the Florida Department of Transportation requires that any use of the property would have to be through us as the lease of the property. [45:19] So therefore we had to get F. Dodd's approval and in working with Rambike Haller that was done and now we're here before you today. [45:29] Okay, thank you. Is that clarified? [45:32] Yeah, yeah, I just wanted to get some context. I didn't understand some of the comments, so that's why. [45:37] Yes, there was no from the city. There was always a willingness to work with with the hubby. [45:42] There was an opposition that was sent to F.D. by neighbors, by a neighbor, and that's the reason for it. [45:49] Thank you. [45:50] Should Joseph any comments? [45:52] No. [45:52] I'm 100% comfortable with it. [45:55] I'm 100% for it. [45:57] I'm just looking forward to move forward. [45:59] Okay. [45:59] Thank you. [45:59] Commissioner Stoos and any comments? [46:01] Yeah, I have a few. [46:03] So I want to say with a time line. [46:06] This was brought to us as a discussion item back in January 2023. [46:11] three years ago, and in the coming, it didn't move forward because we were working in the [46:16] part of the application master plan. Am I right? Go ahead. That wasn't the reason why nothing [46:25] happened that I'm aware of. So, what was the reason back then, not to move forward with this [46:30] project three years ago? [46:33] Yeah, we have to look at the record. Okay, because then, this is a [46:38] that knowing that the community needed this, [46:42] we didn't do what we could do but them to make sure [46:46] that this playground this far was built. [46:49] It's been three years and I can say for myself [46:51] that I homeschooled my son for two years. [46:54] So I was an avid user of parts, playgrounds, [46:58] playgrounds, etc. [47:00] So I wish this was built before and now [47:03] so all the kids had the opportunity to use this for three years. [47:06] Now, this came as an item back in June of this year, and it would fall out at the last [47:15] moment that day of the meeting, and now it's coming back in August. [47:19] Can you please tell us a difference between the contract in June to this one, to the agreement? [47:26] Anybody? [47:28] Let me just imagine. [47:29] I think part of the history of this is there were some challenges with FDOT because they [47:34] did not want to enter into a sublease of their leaky. [47:41] So that was originally the hold-up and the challenge, [47:45] and that was able to be worked through. [47:47] And once that was cleared for us, [47:50] then we could now do an agreement [47:53] that they could sublease with us, [47:56] whereas originally, if Dodd was not amenable [48:00] to having someone other than the city, [48:03] by the property. If I can add also a part of the issue, if that has a lot of restrictions and [48:11] drafting this sub-lease, which I drafted along with have a lot of conditions, and part of it was [48:17] the back and forth in the responsibility and working with Rabbi Caller, who was going to be responsible [48:21] for certain things, and there was a non-restricted hour type of situation where it would be open all [48:27] time and every day. And that was a bit of a burden for how bad to take on. So there were [48:34] negotiations back and forth. So when it was scheduled last time, we pulled it back because [48:39] we were talking with the rabbi to try to mitigate some of those responsibilities that would [48:44] be laid solely on the how bad, because that was a concern that rabbi had. So we're going to go back [48:49] to F dot and in deal with F dot we had agreed with the rabbi that they would dictate the [48:57] hours although it would be open to the public they would dictate the hours in the days [49:01] and so on and so forth because our parts are not consistent in hours the different parts have [49:05] different and as the deputy city manager had alluded to it believe on Tuesday that area because [49:12] of the bridge in the lighting the hours have to be mitigated for that to the lighting is not always [49:18] perfect at the same time as other parts are. So F dot wanted to have specific hours and specific [49:25] So they had us put that back in. [49:29] So that's why now the difference between what was here in June [49:33] is there is a time from 8 a.m. to 1 hour before sunset [49:40] and it's Monday through Sunday. [49:42] And that was a requirement that F.D. wanted to put in there. [49:45] So there's been a lot about in fourth with F.D. [49:47] and that's part of the delay. [49:49] Okay, thank you. [49:51] So also, it's something the resolution says that it is allowed to be a playground, however, the country. [50:05] And we do need a playground or something like that, if it is a direct for the children. The resolution [50:14] a minimum playground equipment, but like I said, in the FDOT approved use, it doesn't mention [50:21] the playground, actually I think it was taken out. So, um, and what agreement are you referring [50:27] to the use, which is the, the, the, the resolutions as a playground, and the, in the FDOT [50:37] use agreements, doesn't mention. That's the, but that's why we have the, we're waiting on the [50:42] to be signed, and that's one of the contingencies of any approval tonight, is we're waiting [50:49] for the final signature from F.D. on the addendum that you all approve with regards to the use, [50:56] and the limitation in the actual sub-lisa agreement with, because it says limited, believe it says, [51:04] how can we approve it? We don't have the addendum already, if the O.T. approves. [51:09] Because it's content you're going to approve a contingent on F.D. doing that. [51:13] If F.D. signs it, you're good. [51:15] And if you have to don't, then we can sign this up. [51:18] So that's the contingency that he is on this evening. [51:21] And another thing here, it doesn't protect either the Chabad or the community [51:26] because it says specifically that for any reason they can terminate this counter within 30 days. [51:35] Absolutely. It's their property. [51:37] Correct. [51:37] So precisely, you know, so I do believe completely that we should be building this and that we do need the area and that we need the playground. [51:47] I just in this we are doing this in the wrong process. [51:51] It should be the responsibility of the city to build that maintain it open and close. [51:57] The rabbi and the community can do a much better use of the money that they're going to be putting to build something that then a different commission FEO to your whoever can come and say you had to vacate in 30 days. [52:11] So like I said at the very beginning is really it is very unfortunate that if we needed this for so long and we knew about it, why are we now making this one of the priorities? [52:26] right now we are building the budget. We're going to be talking about the budget and we're going to be [52:32] approving the budget in three weeks or so the first hearing is going to be September 8. [52:37] We should be including the actually today. We have here in the agenda. Bella is a part [52:43] some contract with the architect. We just need to expand this code and make sure that we put this as a priority in our budget. [52:52] We built it and then the whole community can use it according to the time set up with FDOT. [52:59] So this is the right thing with the wrong process. [53:03] You guys should not be paying for it. [53:05] It should be the city. [53:06] The city has around $100 million in reserve. [53:10] Why are we going to take the money out of the Habat to be a public part that is going to be used by everyone? [53:17] This instrument just doesn't make any sense. [53:22] So, again, we want to build that, we should be built and it should be part of an inventory of playgrounds. [53:31] So, we keep it, we maintain it, we have the liability and you guys are going to be using it whenever you want. [53:39] And then, if the bar goes to the bar, I'm going to ask you to play in that class. [53:45] So I haven't finished. [53:48] And if you're unfortunate that I think this commission, [53:52] especially our police department, [53:55] do a fantastic job to make sure that our Jewish community [53:58] feels safe everywhere, [54:01] from corner to corner of Sonia's. [54:03] And I really want to say, [54:06] sorry for whatever feeling you're having [54:08] of that you are hated or that is antisemitism [54:12] in the community. [54:13] I personally have experienced that and I hope that you guys don't feel is the common of our city because it is not. [54:23] Talking about the rumors that have been circulated about this specific issue, I was contacted by the lady that we were making reference to. [54:34] And I have one conversation with her in her restaurant and funny enough that they didn't [54:42] she wanted to talk to me about it, who has issues that she was having with the H.O.A. in [54:46] her restaurant. [54:48] That was mainly the conversation. [54:51] Also, they were feeling target by our current enforcement with the parking and I said, [54:57] me myself, I got in tickets when busy. [55:00] So, everybody is feeling target by the court enforcement. I only think the court enforcement is doing their job. So, I don't think anybody here is asking court enforcement to go specifically to any location. [55:13] And according with FEOT, I had never spoken to them even once about this specific issue. Nothing about parking that everyone wants for parking, nothing about the playground, nothing that has to do at all with this agreement. [55:27] I wish I had been part of this conversation three years ago, so I will push as much as I could to make sure that instead of building this right now, which will be building this three years prior. [55:42] So, like I said, actually, it should be finished a long time by now, so like I said, I wish my commission can be agreed to put this as a priority in our budget to make sure that it gets built. [55:57] As long as possible, and that the Russian highway doesn't have to put any money for it, it has to be by the city. [56:04] Thank you. [56:05] Okay. [56:08] Are there any other comments? [56:11] I just think for myself that by doing the construction, it will take a quarter of the time that it would take the city just like an entrance coastal park. [56:22] All right. [56:23] So, for clarification and for the record, there's space in the city that's owned by F. [56:28] Many of you have probably heard this before. [56:31] So, any plans that we have that anyone has to build anything on F.Land is risky. [56:40] Because at any point they can come in and say, we need the space to do whatever it is. [56:43] We need to do it to fix the bridge or just because they want it back. [56:48] That's why we have not built anything under the William Lehman because that's their land and likewise, this is the same thing. [56:58] Additionally, because we have a process and we talked about this actually earlier in the workshop about that process. [57:06] We are limited legally to how we choose our architects, contractors, all of those things. [57:13] we have to put out a bid. That's one of the reasons one. There are others that it takes longer for [57:19] the city to build something versus a private entity. And so if the city was to build anything, [57:27] especially on land we don't own, it would require an extensive conversation, especially since [57:33] we can't approve or even motion to approve something that doesn't have a price tag because that is [57:40] in the end, you are money and we can't just be approving a blank check. I thank the [57:47] Carter Valley family. Thank you. I know you're here to represent. You've always been so generous [57:54] with the shoe, with the school. I know you since you were a little boy. And it's really a testament [58:02] to this community, how you all came out and support, because especially looking around, many [58:10] of you, I'm sure your kids are not going to be using the playground, your grandkids maybe, [58:16] so it is really wonderful to see. And to comments made about anti-Semitism, anti-Semitism [58:25] is real. It's in this community. [58:30] Someone that's not Jewish, [58:31] Commissioners Jews, and you wouldn't feel it, and you wouldn't see it. [58:36] But those that do do, from what you would call potentially a minor [58:43] infraction, like a swastika and pencil somewhere, [58:48] to major things like very historical tropes [58:54] about Jews and money and how I would support Israel [58:58] because the Jews give me money. [59:00] Those are the kind of things that are, [59:02] that's anti-Semitism. [59:04] I urge everyone to look up the Irish definition [59:06] of anti-Semitism, which we have resolved here. [59:11] The state has resolved that the county has, [59:14] this is a big deal and we can't let any small thing go. [59:19] We, as a community, regardless of your Jewish, [59:21] because they first come for the Jews [59:23] and then they come for everyone else. [59:25] We have to work as a community to stamp it out. [59:29] But more so I also want to urge all of you. [59:31] You came here because the Rabbi urged you [59:33] and this is super important. [59:35] But I want you to come more often for things [59:38] that are important to you because it matters [59:40] and you're voice absolutely matters. [59:42] And you're not even saying anything being here [59:44] makes a huge difference of how the commission responds [59:47] to any item or votes on any item. [59:49] So thank you all for doing this. [59:56] If there's no other comments from the commission, I'll take a look. [1:00:00] I'll make a motion. I'll second. Okay. All in favour? [1:00:03] May adjust the clarify again. The contingency is you're approving contingent on F dot signing the [1:00:08] agenda. Correct. Correct. Okay. Do we need a new motion based on that? No. We have a motion on the table. [1:00:15] We have a second. All in favour? Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. And you want to post? No. And by clarification, we have also [1:00:24] We'll allow that under the costway. [1:00:26] What we're doing right now is that we're making the community pay for something that the [1:00:31] city should be paying for, and they should not be responsible or liable for this. [1:00:36] Okay, it's not a genuine statement because it's not something that we can agree to tonight. [1:00:39] All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to take a five minute break because I know some [1:00:43] of you want to leave. [1:00:44] I am not encouraging anyone to leave. [1:00:46] The item has been approved. [1:00:48] I would ask for you to stay because it's good to stay and check it out, but I want to give [1:00:52] one five minutes of that way it's not disruptive to the process. We will be back at 7.33. [1:06:03] Commissioner Joseph said a good example by coming back up. [1:06:14] All right, gentlemen in the back. If you're staying, please have a seat. [1:06:37] Okay. [1:06:40] Okay, very dramatic. All right, we are back on. Maricio, next item, please, nine B. [1:06:47] Nine B is a resolution approving an agreement with Millennium Products for the furnishing and installation of CCTV cameras at 22 bus applications throughout the city. [1:06:56] Okay, Mr. City Manager. Mayer Vice Mayor, members of the Commission, this continues our commitment to public safety, and it will include the installation of 22 cameras at bus stops throughout the city. [1:07:11] Okay. Do we have any public speakers? [1:07:15] We do. [1:07:16] Okay. [1:07:16] Carly, in a cruise control office. [1:07:19] Hi. [1:07:20] Your name and address for the director. [1:07:22] Good evening. [1:07:22] Catalina Cruz, Buenos Aires, 1715, North Bay Road. [1:07:27] So I'm here tonight to support this project, [1:07:30] calling seven years one of the busiest area in our city. [1:07:34] Every day, residents, students, seniors, workers, [1:07:37] and visitors use these bus stops and sidewalks. [1:07:40] This investment will help make those areas safer. [1:07:44] These cameras will help the truck crime [1:07:46] improve emergency response, support investigations, [1:07:49] and enhance traffic safety. [1:07:51] Most importantly, they will give residents greater peace of mind when you send our public spaces. [1:07:57] I respectfully encourage the Commission to approach this item. [1:07:59] Thank you. [1:08:01] Any other speakers? [1:08:02] Yes, ma'am. [1:08:03] David Virgil. [1:08:08] Good evening. [1:08:09] Mayer, Vice Mayor and Commission. [1:08:10] My name is David Virgil. [1:08:11] My address is 1750. [1:08:13] No. [1:08:13] I believe the addition of these new cameras will help police better identify suspects. [1:08:20] If there's ever a theft or some crime at a bus stop, [1:08:23] It would also help police investigate any accidents occur in a nearby vicinity of the bus stops. [1:08:31] So, I am full of support of this because this will enhance public safety in the city, [1:08:36] and it will continue to improve quality of life. [1:08:41] So, thank you. [1:08:42] Thank you, David. [1:08:43] No, there's speakers. [1:08:44] All right. [1:08:46] I'll take any questions or comments from the commission. [1:08:49] I'll take a motion then. [1:08:50] Well, I, I just, because I wasn't present at the agenda review, I had made a comment [1:08:57] over the phone actually regarding our, our police camera wall, our wall, and we have, [1:09:07] yeah, the tech wall. [1:09:09] So I had asked how many actual shots, camera shots can the wall see it one time and apparently [1:09:20] It's they're constantly changing is that correct? [1:09:24] So Mr. City manager if you want to clarify that and you were on the phone for the meeting. Yes [1:09:31] Yes, hello [1:09:35] Vice Mayor and commissioners. Yes to your point. We can see sixty four [1:09:40] Cameras at once, but what is unique about our system is we use analytics [1:09:44] So there are different alarms we can set where there's an anomaly in the camera to text that [1:09:50] it will preemptively set and alert. So we've had great success using that and it works well, honestly. [1:09:57] Yeah, so that's what I had asked at the... [1:10:00] Let's say at the elevator, at the crossover, at gate. [1:10:10] The other day, but I've been in a various event. [1:10:18] That immediately comes up on the camera or no? [1:10:20] Yes, so right now we have an alarm set specifically to those elevators. [1:10:24] I believe it's midnight to about 5am so anytime somebody were to use the elevators that will just pop up on the screen and we're watching them. [1:10:32] Yeah, so you don't have to have someone eyeing the screen constantly. [1:10:36] No, no, it's a force multiplier. [1:10:37] Right. [1:10:38] It works. [1:10:40] Okay. [1:10:41] Thank you. [1:10:42] Since you're up there. [1:10:44] At one time at how many actual people are looking at the hyperwall reviewing the footage. [1:10:51] So at the Hebrew all specifically, right now, as it's constructed, it's whoever's in communications, right? [1:10:57] So we've got an alpha and a bravo shift, so a day, night shift, there's an overlap. [1:11:03] So they would overlap six hours on each shift and then there's a supervisor. [1:11:07] There are people that run the software I run into my office all the time, Sergeant Cohnitz, and so there's eyes on it. [1:11:14] All those supervisors have access at their desktop, so a lot of them do run it when they're in the station. [1:11:20] So, it's monitored 24-7, right? [1:11:22] Because there are dispatches, but the users, [1:11:25] I mean, just depends on how many people are actually at the station. [1:11:28] And this was discussed during the agenda review, [1:11:30] but just for the purposes since we do have people in the audience. [1:11:33] How long do we keep the footage for? [1:11:35] 30 days. [1:11:36] 30 days. [1:11:37] Okay. [1:11:38] And the cameras will be able to capture, [1:11:40] not just the actual interior of the bus stop, [1:11:44] they'll also capture depending on where we position it, [1:11:47] parts of Collins Avenue. [1:11:48] Correct. Well, you know, the original intention was to set a lawyer in alarm. So leveraging those analytics [1:11:53] at the bus shelters. So if anybody were at the shelters not for purposes of using the bus [1:11:59] Right, it would generate an alert [1:12:01] And we can kind of get eyes on what that whatever that situation is in respond accordingly [1:12:05] It will see up and down the sidewalks and Collins Avenue [1:12:09] Which will help us with with the next item and give us perspective of the entire city right? [1:12:14] we have had in the past people that regrettably have gotten into some sort of either [1:12:20] vendors or car accidents that have assumed that we have a video of it, but now in many places we will. [1:12:26] We will. [1:12:27] Did you want to add something to my area of North Bay Road? [1:12:30] I have covered. [1:12:31] You do. [1:12:31] You do. [1:12:32] Getting in and out of Golden Shores every single location. [1:12:34] Thank you. [1:12:35] Anyone else have a comment? [1:12:37] Okay. [1:12:37] I'll take a motion. [1:12:38] Motion. [1:12:40] All right. [1:12:40] All in favor? [1:12:41] Hi. [1:12:42] Thank you. [1:12:43] Next item, please? [1:12:44] I see as a resolution of proving an agreement with Millennium Products for the expansion of the police department's real-time crime center. [1:12:53] Mayor Vice Mayor, Madam of the Commission, this is going to bring together all of our technology in a central hub to be located within the police department. [1:13:04] Okay. Do we have any public speakers? [1:13:08] Steven Hirsch. [1:13:09] Okay. [1:13:13] Steven Hirsch, 1721 Collins. [1:13:16] I support this resolution that greatly improves the public safety of our city, the successful [1:13:24] accomplishment of the police department's mission increasingly depends upon timely within [1:13:31] seconds notifications of incidents, not notifications after the incident is over. The real [1:13:38] time crime center brings together technologies that would otherwise operate separately. It integrates [1:13:45] the live and recorded camera feeds, licensed plate readers, detections, alerts, can set analytics [1:13:52] as the deputy chief mentioned, investigative information data from state and local enforcement [1:13:58] partners, and its analytical tools are trained, our personal are trained in utilizing the [1:14:06] analytical tools so they can connect information and communicate it to the officers in [1:14:12] field. Consider a reported burglary, stolen vehicle, our missing and danger resident. [1:14:19] While officers are responding, the crime center personnel can examine nearby cameras, [1:14:24] search for a vehicle or license plate to terminate its possible direction of travel, [1:14:29] display the information on the map, identify potential threats to residents or officers, [1:14:34] and check all connected law enforcement systems. Instead of officers arriving with only [1:14:40] limited information provided during the original 911 call. Officers can receive a description [1:14:47] of the person involved, vehicle descriptions, last-known locations, and any dangers they may encounter [1:14:53] on the arrival of the scene. This supports a faster, safer and better police. [1:15:00] After a crime investigators can use the same system for follow-up and investigative work. [1:15:10] My research to close through the company that this system provides shared video wall for live, visual and viewing of the scene monitored by up to four fully equipped work stations, mapping the software and the ability for officers to do their work. [1:15:27] The most important thing though to take from this is that this technology does not replace [1:15:34] police officers or a professional judgment. It makes them more effective. [1:15:40] Approving the real-time crime centers and investment and officer safety, timely responses, [1:15:46] stronger investigations, protection of property, and most importantly, the departments of [1:15:52] the late protect lives and every type of situation. Thank you. Thank you. Are there any other speakers? [1:15:58] David Virgil. [1:16:01] And if you're coming up a second time, you don't have to say your name and address for the record. [1:16:05] Good evening. My name is David Virgil. I believe this real-time crime sensor will continue to improve the safety of our police officers by allowing them to view [1:16:14] the locations where they were respond to ahead of time and that will enhance their safety and the safety of residents in the area. [1:16:21] So I'm in full support of this item and it's great to have this in our city. [1:16:27] So thank you. [1:16:27] Thank you. [1:16:29] Oh, there's speakers. [1:16:29] Okay. [1:16:30] I'll take a comment from the commission. [1:16:32] Commission just we've been going first a lot. [1:16:34] When else I'll go on this one. [1:16:36] I think what I think is on the previous item that one of our speakers said that [1:16:41] this is an investment and on our budget it looks like an expense. [1:16:45] But it really is an investment and obviously I support it. [1:16:50] Thank you. [1:16:52] I just want to express, you know, and give kudos to our police department, the staff that is making this possible. [1:17:01] Obviously we've implemented the drones in our police department got the accreditation when it comes to technology. [1:17:09] They've been implementing a lot of new technologies and this is the latest example of it. [1:17:15] And I think it's just for the good of the community. [1:17:19] And you see the results. [1:17:20] I mean, anytime something happens, we are quick to take action and to arrest whoever needs [1:17:28] to be arrested, et cetera, et cetera. [1:17:31] So, you know, I just want to express how happy I am that, you know, these things are just [1:17:36] working and you guys are doing a great job. [1:17:44] Yeah. [1:17:44] Yeah, this is great. [1:17:46] This is amazing. [1:17:47] I totally support it. [1:17:49] My only issue, continuing with now having the vendor present. [1:17:54] We are giving around $2 million in contract to one vendor. [1:17:58] We should be able to congratulate them here for the product. [1:18:02] Once again, the process is the problem. [1:18:05] Now, the result. [1:18:06] Not into you. [1:18:07] We should go ahead. [1:18:08] So you're going to do amazing. [1:18:10] So as a best practice, [1:18:12] we should be able to have the vendor here in case that we have even any questions about the [1:18:17] product that we are giving all this money for. So I am in support of these. I am not in support [1:18:24] of the lack of transparency when we are not having the vendor come to the meetings. [1:18:31] As if not a requirement or at least a request. So we can tell them thank you for what you're doing for us. [1:18:37] Yes. [1:18:39] So I would like to second that part of what Commissioner Fabiola said when I became a commissioner [1:18:45] in 2022 we had 54 officers and I said at that time we need to get the 75 and with [1:18:52] this great commission we've always supported our police department and we're at what 74 now [1:19:01] Yeah, so good. We're getting very close and that's what we need to have full [1:19:08] staff changing, right? Yeah, and with all the new equipment and all, we lead the state, [1:19:18] the city leads the state where number one, as far as bringing in new innovation, and that's what we intend to keep going. [1:19:25] Okay. [1:19:27] Thank you. [1:19:29] I'm not going to repeat what everyone else said. [1:19:31] We love our police department. [1:19:33] I would say we are the safest city in all of Florida, which says a lot. [1:19:38] And it's not by accident. [1:19:40] So these investments do make a huge difference. [1:19:42] They continue to make the city safe. [1:19:44] I am 100% trust your process. [1:19:49] How you do things? [1:19:50] If there's any questions, you are all available to answer them. [1:19:54] the vendor as well during the agenda review if we wanted to do it at that time and the [1:20:00] The results is always good and that is a testament to the work that you do, the processes that you have, obviously the accreditation is huge. [1:20:10] So thank you. Thank you very much. All right. I'll take a no-clap thing. I'll take a motion. [1:20:16] A second. [1:20:17] All in favour? [1:20:19] Aye. [1:20:19] Aye. All right. [1:20:19] Nineteep, please. [1:20:23] Nineteep, please. [1:20:24] Nineteep, please. [1:20:28] Nineteep, please. [1:20:28] Nineteep, please. [1:20:29] Nineteep, please. [1:20:30] Nineteep, please. [1:20:31] and waving the bidding requirements of chapter 62 of the city's court of ordinances, a [1:20:35] proven agreement with vetted security solutions to provide maintenance and as needed repairs, [1:20:40] the city security cameras hardware and software. [1:20:44] Is there any manager? [1:20:45] Mayor Vice-Mairman was the commission. [1:20:47] This company is the one that maintains the hardware and software for cameras. [1:20:52] So my discussions with the police department in order to avoid any disruption of our surveillance [1:20:58] system in continuing public safety. We want to prove a one-year agreement with the vetted [1:21:05] to wave the bidding requirements and participate in ongoing maintenance services for these cameras. [1:21:13] Thank you. Do we have public speakers? [1:21:16] No, ma. Okay. Public comment is closed. Comments are questions in the commission. [1:21:21] So, what are the warranties on these particular cameras? [1:21:27] That's another reason to be able to have the vendor here. [1:21:30] So, it's five years on hardware and one year on software. [1:21:34] So, have we had several that have been replaced? [1:21:39] Yes. [1:21:39] Yeah. [1:21:40] Right. [1:21:41] And do we have a vandalism problem in the city? [1:21:45] We do not have a vandalism problem. [1:21:46] I will say there was one site that could have been when I was certain, so on one occasion unfortunately maybe. [1:21:57] Okay. [1:21:57] Thank you. [1:21:58] Sure. [1:21:58] Thank you. [1:22:01] I, for what I understand here is a three year service agreement, not one year. [1:22:07] And because I was reading this once again here, I am not comfortable with a, [1:22:15] a lack of building process. So we start with this company in 2022, then 2024, [1:22:22] 2006. And now we are asking for a three-year agreement. There have been nine years [1:22:26] and no building. And one of the reasons that I was reading here for that is due to the [1:22:32] familiarity of this company with the software and the hardware, which by the way, that's not for you, [1:22:39] look, which is, by the way, is going to be only growing by year. [1:22:45] So we are navigating because we've been working with them. [1:22:51] So that means every year that we continue working and we're navigating the [1:22:55] familiarity is growing. [1:22:58] So it was going to become like a monopoly. [1:23:00] We're never going to be the anyway, because nobody's going to have [1:23:03] the familiarity. [1:23:04] So, here again, the process is what I am questioning, not the product. [1:23:12] We, not in says that there is no competition or it is in practical, it just says that [1:23:17] we should be continuing working with them because we've been working with them in the past. [1:23:23] And now it's a three years agreement, if it's one year, I will feel it may be better with [1:23:28] the condition that then is going to go to bed and maybe there's going to be the winners [1:23:33] because they're the best, probably. [1:23:35] The point is that we cannot continue [1:23:37] not being in this kind of contracts, [1:23:40] because in this case, specifically, like I said, [1:23:43] the justification to continue with the vendor [1:23:45] because we've been working with them for a long time. [1:23:49] So, is it one year, is it three years? [1:23:51] Because the whereas here in page 238 is an approved [1:23:56] a three year service agreement with a contract [1:23:58] to provide maintenance service to the city security environment. [1:24:02] I just want to have the clarification, and if that's the case that we're doing an agreement for extra three years without beating, then I can't support this. [1:24:15] Do you want to serve to that? [1:24:17] You're just... [1:24:18] No, no, no, no. [1:24:20] Yeah, but it's not for local. [1:24:22] I just want to know for the term that we are approving it, and that reason not to be beating this project. [1:24:30] If we're going to be, if we're being with the St. Company for six years. [1:24:33] Okay, I think Luke can answer because we have to go ahead. [1:24:38] So when we say familiarity, I mean, it's really more than just knowing the system, right? [1:24:42] Specifically with this real-time crime build out that we're doing, [1:24:46] you know, most agencies kind of just hang monitors all walls, right? [1:24:49] But what that it is going to do is they're going to come in with a team of engineers, [1:24:54] and they're looking at what software we use on a daily basis, [1:24:58] and it's going to be on this beautiful map. [1:25:00] And they're going to pull in all of this software into one interface. So they're building this specifically for us. [1:25:07] In addition to that, there's going to be automations. So say there's a robbery at 178th in Collins. [1:25:12] Rather than at present, we would have to go look at cameras on one software. We could launch a drone on another software. [1:25:20] We could look at license plate readers on another software. I mean, just that process could take 20 minutes, right? [1:25:26] We're all familiar with the city, so geographically we're small. [1:25:29] So what they're building for us is an automation [1:25:31] where as soon as that information is put into our computer [1:25:34] system, the information will automatically [1:25:36] be displayed to the operators. [1:25:38] So if there's a robbery, well, unfortunately, [1:25:40] 1178 in Collins, we hope by 1-A-O, the information [1:25:44] is right there, a drone is launched, the camera feeds [1:25:48] your live, we've got license plate readers. [1:25:50] So those automations in those builds are very particular. [1:25:53] right and they are coming out and they're really I mean really forward thinking company and [1:25:59] leveraging analytics and building the software I don't know how practical it would be not [1:26:05] impossible to bring somebody else in I think it would be an exceptional cost we did it we went from one [1:26:12] vendor who had been bought out several times ultimately to a huge company they were terrible honestly [1:26:18] And that happens often. [1:26:20] It does, right? [1:26:21] And every time they got bought out, it got worse and worse. [1:26:22] And they got bigger and bigger. [1:26:24] And unfortunately, it got to the point where the system wasn't working. [1:26:29] So we had to pay an exceptional amount of money to come in because now it's other people's [1:26:33] infrastructure that they've built, right, conduit that they've laid and connections they've [1:26:37] made. [1:26:38] And it was inadequate. [1:26:39] So we needed to spend a lot of money to get it up to par and get them to do agreements [1:26:45] with us like this. [1:26:45] because otherwise, we're paying a GSA labor rate, [1:26:48] which I believe is like $158 an hour. [1:26:52] So, you know, if you look at what it would truly cost, [1:26:54] it just makes a lot of sense in particular scenario. [1:26:57] So, wait, wait, wait, wait. [1:26:58] Let me see her, she's got the floor, and then we move on. [1:27:01] And I totally agree with the process. [1:27:03] And English is great. [1:27:04] That's what I said. [1:27:05] This is not about how they're going to be built in it. [1:27:08] I'm pretty sure that they're going to be great. [1:27:11] And if they're being working with us for so long, [1:27:14] It's a testament to how good the Mosby, anyway, we're talking about technology and it's changing by the second. [1:27:21] You know, so that's what I said that this was not a question for the product, it's more that for the process that we are doing to continue doing this. [1:27:32] And that's my point, you know, right now we are getting into this contract for three years with this company. [1:27:38] now knowing if tomorrow they get bought, but I'll be company and now we're going to be talking [1:27:43] about exactly what you're talking in right now. This can happen. So that scenario that you [1:27:48] just said that happened with a previous vendor, once again if we had the vendor here they will [1:27:54] be the ones asking those questions and one question that I'll be asking the vendor will be who's [1:28:00] your competition and they will tell us right here right now which are the other companies that they're [1:28:08] what we do only us do that. [1:28:10] Which is fine, you know, for my point is that we can [1:28:13] continue relying in a process where we are just [1:28:16] cutting our own procurement process. [1:28:19] So that's what it makes me feel uncomfortable. [1:28:21] And again, I want the clarification. [1:28:23] Is this agreement is going to be for one year or for three [1:28:25] years? [1:28:27] OK. [1:28:28] Right? [1:28:30] OK, not. [1:28:31] I said one year, one week, when we started. [1:28:34] So, initially, the initial one was one year. [1:28:37] It's this agreement, it's for 36 months, yes, correct, and that's the whole thing on my point. [1:28:44] I had no doubt that what they do is incredible and it's amazing, and yes, it's hard to ever say not to you guys, ever. [1:28:55] Okay, it's just it's almost impossible in this event, specifically, I do believe that best practice should be for us to do this agreement for one year. [1:29:07] And then if there is no other vendor that can procure the same kind of service, then we're going to continue with them anyway. [1:29:16] But if not that's not the case that the justification to continue with them is because they've been with us from the very beginning. [1:29:23] Then I do believe we should be doing invitation to bid to us as Commissioners Lama's point earlier today during our workshop. [1:29:35] May I? [1:29:36] Could you just let Vice-Mercy speak and then I'll give you the floor? [1:29:39] I think that given the scope of the work that we're talking about, I don't think one year is enough and I support it the way that it is. [1:29:51] Okay. Commissioner Joseph? [1:29:52] Yes. [1:29:53] So this company is applying the hardware and the software, all right? [1:29:57] So they're an integrator. So Motorola... [1:30:00] Ones, what's called a vigilance, like a subsidiary of Motorola, that's the cameras we use. Right. So they're the integrated of the installer. [1:30:06] Okay. So software creator in this instance. So over the three years, and you know how fast technology changes, are they? Do we have anything in the agreement that there are upgrades for the cameras involved or no? [1:30:20] So we buy the cameras, so we're buying them, so we own them. [1:30:24] We do. [1:30:26] So we're stuck. [1:30:26] So like to software will update, right? [1:30:28] So it's there's versions that they can push out for the cameras to no better until they're end of life. [1:30:34] Let me tell you because under the under the way technology is changing so fast and with cameras, you know, [1:30:44] bringing in AI technology every day. [1:30:47] I mean, they'd make more sense for us to lease the cameras and then have them be able to upgrade [1:30:55] as the new technology evolves. I think that [1:31:00] the only thing that we're stuck with these cameras in two years they could be outdated. [1:31:06] In two years I don't think they would because really it's you're looking at the video management system [1:31:11] right so the software that's powering these cameras. No, I'm still going to have the cameras are going to be working. [1:31:16] Right, but there's always going to be newer technology, but sure there'll be newer technology. They make enhancements though to make them [1:31:24] suit our needs [1:31:26] When they go through their life cycle, we have cameras that are ten years old that are operating right now, and they work pretty well [1:31:33] And it's just cost prohibitive to switch [1:31:36] You know, almost 500 cameras at once, but do you know what the difference would have been to [1:31:41] at least, and they wouldn't all be able to do it. [1:31:44] And fortunately, the only company that I've ever heard of, [1:31:47] that least is cameras is flock. [1:31:49] And if anybody's followed the media lately, [1:31:51] they don't have them for a reason, right? [1:31:54] So that would be the only opportunity that I've ever heard of [1:31:57] about listening unless you're getting to a, [1:31:59] there's like government financing programs and pay [1:32:02] 7% interest. [1:32:03] So I wouldn't recommend it. [1:32:06] So right now, these cameras are the newest. [1:32:09] They are technology. [1:32:12] I should at least be the newest technology for the next six months. [1:32:17] Correct. [1:32:18] Correct. [1:32:20] Okay. [1:32:21] Commission Lama. [1:32:22] Yeah. [1:32:22] So I think that when it comes to softer and systems, you know, it's a long-term commitment. [1:32:30] I mean, that's why you see companies and you see governments when they adopt some sort of softer [1:32:35] system on how to operate, it cannot be for a year or even two years. I think it's a long-term [1:32:42] commitment. Obviously it doesn't mean that 10 years down the road, you're revisiting everything [1:32:49] and you've got to see that system and the softer that you have in place is still doing the job [1:32:54] as intended. But yeah, when it comes to softer integrations and systems, it's something that, [1:33:02] you know, it's it's very involved and you cannot just, you know, bid it out all the time. [1:33:09] And also, if I may. Yeah. Because it's custom built. This is something being done just for us. [1:33:17] You don't want to get left hanging like in the middle of the project. It would be disruptive. [1:33:22] If I may. We've been with them for six years already. Six. This is a maintenance agreement for three more. [1:33:31] So everything is already done. It's gonna continue. They're gonna continue in degrading, but so to be accurate [1:33:40] We've been with the same company for six years now and now we are in three more [1:33:47] Without even going to the market to find out if there is anything better so I'm not saying to get into a contra with a company for one year [1:33:58] We've been six years with them [1:33:59] No, we just listen, we just listen, we just listen, we just listen, we just listen. [1:34:04] Commissioner Joseph, Commissioner. [1:34:06] Hello. [1:34:06] Hello. [1:34:07] Hello, everyone. [1:34:08] Can we remember that we have rules here? [1:34:10] Please. [1:34:11] One second. [1:34:12] Commissioner Lamar, did you have anything to add? [1:34:14] No, no. [1:34:14] I mean, Commissioner of Stuice had mentioned one year. [1:34:18] So that's why I brought that up when you're implementing systems and software. [1:34:22] I know we've been with them for six years and when it comes to software and systems, [1:34:28] I don't think this is anything extraordinary to be quite honest, yeah. [1:34:32] Commissioner Joseph, you have the floor. [1:34:34] No, I was just wondering. [1:34:35] So now the six-year issue came up. [1:34:38] So when did we actually purchase these cameras? [1:34:41] Just depends where, with site, we've been working at this since 2014. [1:34:46] So at some locations, we have six-year-old cameras. [1:34:50] And some other locations, we've got that we kind of older. [1:34:52] But if they're functioning in its, you know, an area that is in critical, [1:34:56] if it's like a server room somewhere, you know, where you just need to go. [1:35:04] So what is the newest cameras we have? Weeks old? Weeks old? Okay. Yeah. All right. So it runs the gamut. It does. [1:35:20] we in those now in six years ago. [1:35:23] Are there any other comments? [1:35:27] I have a question. [1:35:29] How long have we been in law enforcement? [1:35:30] 20 years in jail. [1:35:32] 20 years in jail. [1:35:32] But OK, and how long have you been with Sunny Asvich? [1:35:34] 20 years. [1:35:35] Amazing. [1:35:38] How confident and comfortable are you with this proposal [1:35:40] and what you are requesting? [1:35:43] Very. [1:35:43] I think that makes a lot of sense for a lot of reasons. [1:35:47] Okay, you as the expert, I'm going to, you know, go with what it is that you are asking [1:35:53] you for, and with that, I'll take a motion. [1:35:55] Thank you. [1:35:56] I'll make a motion. [1:35:57] I'll second. [1:35:58] All in favour? [1:35:58] Aye. [1:35:59] Any opposed? [1:36:01] No. [1:36:01] Thank you, sir. [1:36:02] Thank you very much. [1:36:03] Next item, please? [1:36:06] 9E is resolution approving a press amendment to the agreement with the Compass Group USAID's [1:36:11] Profit of Ending Machine Services. [1:36:13] Mr. City Manager? [1:36:15] Mayor Vice Mayor Members of the Commission. [1:36:16] this is for citywide vending services and two companies that submitted proposal to the solicitation [1:36:25] in the company that we ended up going with, we provide us 27% of gross sales for a five-year [1:36:33] contractor. Okay, do we have public speakers? No ma'am. Okay, public comment is closed. I'll take [1:36:45] these bending machine chains in the last few years. What specific data you asking about? [1:36:54] Any day, I don't have any data. It says here that, because this is a incomproducing, we don't [1:37:01] have anything that tells how much money we're making. So of course, we are going to continue [1:37:06] having the service and if that's the best company to do it, amazing. But I think we are lacking the [1:37:14] information, at least to compare how much money we're making, at least in the last three [1:37:18] years, four years, five years. We have zero data about it. [1:37:22] Mr. City Manager, I'd like some clarification, so the 27% is what we make off of the [1:37:29] the Venom machines. Correct. [1:37:32] And do you have it? [1:37:32] It was 21%. When we went out to bid, it's now 27%. [1:37:38] Okay, and do you have information as to what the industry standard is as far as percentage? [1:37:44] That was based on a piggyback agreement, so I would say that as industry standard for the most part. [1:37:53] And as far as how much money we make off these vending machines, isn't it really depend on what food is in there? [1:38:00] And how popular it is with the kids? [1:38:02] Do we have... [1:38:03] Off the top of your head because this wasn't requested before, do you know how much money we make? [1:38:07] Okay. [1:38:07] Because you did request it on Tuesday. [1:38:09] Oh, that's right. Thank you. [1:38:10] Yes, we have an idea. [1:38:13] How many machines there are? [1:38:15] Yes, we have two at City Hall. [1:38:19] There's a couple at Pelican. [1:38:20] Samson Ocean from Park. [1:38:22] Sounds on a park. [1:38:23] All right, so I did ask it. [1:38:24] Okay, good. [1:38:25] You did. [1:38:26] So, previous year, 10,256 dollars and 69 cents. [1:38:30] Current year. [1:38:32] Third. [1:38:32] That's something important. [1:38:33] That I don't know. [1:38:35] Current year is $13,980. [1:38:38] And 75 cents. [1:38:39] Okay. Thank you. Are there any questions or comments? No, well, I'll actually prove the [1:38:46] point of the benefits of having bidding process that we get better companies and better [1:38:54] terms. Any other comments? [1:38:59] I'll take a moment. Was this a bid or was it a piggyback? No? Was [1:39:02] not a bid? It was a piggyback from Pemberpines. Yeah. No, I'm sorry. Pemberpines did do a bit recently [1:39:09] and they only. We didn't pick it. No. So we did our own bid and we got a percentage rate of 21%. [1:39:19] Subsequently, I think was Parkland did a bid and they got 27%. We piggybacked that contract at 27%. [1:39:29] More recently, Hamburg Pines did go out to bid. They did go through the full process and they only got, [1:39:36] I think it's 20% or 21%. [1:39:39] Okay. [1:39:40] 20%. [1:39:40] Pember. [1:39:41] Pines just went out to bid and they're only getting 20% from the same vendor. [1:39:46] Okay. [1:39:46] Thank you. [1:39:46] It's agreed to hold our 27%. [1:39:49] Okay. [1:39:49] Thank you. [1:39:51] I'll take a motion. [1:39:52] I'll make a motion. [1:39:53] Need a second. [1:39:54] Second. [1:39:55] All in favor. [1:39:56] All right. [1:39:56] All right. [1:39:57] Next slide, please. [1:39:58] Nine F. [1:40:00] 9F is a resolution of proving the expenditure of budget funds with caresoft for the licensing of open-gov, a budgeting software. [1:40:09] Mayor Vice Mayor, Members of the Commission, this is a budgeting software that was proved in November of 2023. [1:40:16] We're asking for a one year renewal for the continued licensing of this platform from October 1st, [1:40:26] 2026 through September 30th, 2027. [1:40:30] The renewal cost is 64009.06. [1:40:36] Thank you. [1:40:36] Do we have public speakers? [1:40:38] We do. [1:40:39] We have Stephen Hirsch. [1:40:45] Take your name please. [1:40:49] Stephen Hirsch. [1:40:51] Our budget director reported that staff is very satisfied with this software and wishes to continue using it. [1:41:00] The software is used by many government-related agencies. [1:41:04] A review of the OpenGov-Budgeoning Software by KaraSoft discloses that the software has a built-in module that allows for established metrics that the city would create to be created for every program area. [1:41:20] However, as best as I can determine a full performance-based budget abilities are not being used. [1:41:28] Senayals Beach already performs a substantial amount of performance measurement and presents it unusually well in the FY 2020-627 tentative budget. [1:41:39] There are actual results, target projections, and future targets throughout each department listed as performance measures. [1:41:46] This is a strong foundation to move to the next level of full performance-based budgeting. [1:41:54] I don't see evidence in the proposed budget that performance measures are presently integrated [1:41:59] into open-skogs performance measurement facility or symptom ability and is not integrated [1:42:10] at various levels. [1:42:12] mentioned is made in the budget draft or the tentative budget to expel Excel spreadsheets for performance measures. [1:42:23] Therefore, I would describe Sunale's speech as having a performance measurement budget that is well positioned to become a true performance-based budget. [1:42:34] The next practical step would be to take the entire 2026-27 budget, and identify which of the cities existing measures are genuine KPIs, key performance indicators, which are merely workloads statistics, and establish what additional efficiency outcome metrics should be added, then establish green, yellow, and red thresholds, and budget consequences. [1:43:03] is for each. This software allows that to occur. The software then creates a dashboard that [1:43:11] this commission and the city manager can review to see exactly what is working and what is not. [1:43:19] This would not delay the completion of the 202627 budget as the metrics may be added after [1:43:26] the budget is completed and then begin to be measured as of the October 1st implementation. [1:43:34] We are paying for this software, why not utilize it to its full potential? [1:43:39] Performance-based budgeting gives elected officials, managers and residents a clear answer [1:43:46] to three fundamental questions. [1:43:48] What are we spending? [1:43:51] I got one minute. [1:43:52] 30 seconds. [1:43:53] What are we receiving? [1:43:54] And are there better ways to achieve the same improved results? [1:43:59] It gives decision makers the ability so that budget reductions, increases, and program changes [1:44:07] are based on evidence rather than habit, politics, or across the board cuts. [1:44:14] Thank you. [1:44:15] Any other speakers? [1:44:16] No, ma'am. [1:44:17] All right. [1:44:17] I'll take comments or questions from the commission. [1:44:19] I have a few quick commission students in the forest. [1:44:24] The highest quotation that we have is base on a budget between 200 and $300 million. [1:44:35] Today in our workshop we know that at ready 175 million were slag from our budget. [1:44:45] So, bringing us down to less than $200 million. [1:44:48] So I guess this quote needs to be re-evaluated or we had to ask for a new quote, considering that we are not going to be anymore. [1:45:14] We're paying for it, and I'm going to read a little bit about the vendors' own words. [1:45:22] Open GoF Market this platform on three things, budget, automation, reporting, and public transparency. [1:45:29] It includes the F, GFO, our winning online budget book that lets us stay hold and find [1:45:39] and drill into the numbers. [1:45:41] Plus, this is very important, capital planning and performance tracking models that map [1:45:48] allocations to outcomes. [1:45:51] So many of the questions that I asked in the summary for answers, I could have got [1:45:59] those myself, if we had the tools to get into the software, which, by the way, is part of the [1:46:08] things that they say that they do best and is giving silly officials or officials, they [1:46:13] put like that, the tools for the decision makers to access to all the information without [1:46:23] request because they have their own logging tools. [1:46:28] Also, it says here in our own memo when we got into this, with this software back in 2023, [1:46:36] it was said that between other things, the Pomp and Abyss reported that they run with [1:46:41] Open Gofinancial Transparency module since 2014 and Pomp and Biscard is sitting easy [1:46:48] of use for residents. [1:46:50] So they do have the capability we are using it and that's not a decision that this commission has made. [1:47:00] This software has to be open to the public and it has to be accessible to the commission. [1:47:08] When it comes to capital DECIP, the platform link, planning, funding, budget, execution, [1:47:18] a schedule and close-out comparing actual spending against estimates in real-time, per project. [1:47:27] In that includes total approved project costs, original budget versus current amended budget, [1:47:35] spending today and unspend balance for the source for each dollar, annual appropriation across [1:47:42] fiscal years, contract a war and change orders, [1:47:46] start targeting, militant date in a schedule various, [1:47:50] status between proposed on hold of Cancels, [1:47:53] a scope changes with who approved and ongoing operating costs. [1:47:58] This is a great software that we are paying for, [1:48:02] and we are now using, and right now, [1:48:05] we should make sure that it's going to start being used. [1:48:08] Another thing is with a phone balance. [1:48:10] It gives all the details of the phone balance. [1:48:15] During the workshop today, I said that I am with information I had got in so far. [1:48:23] Budget building phone went from almost $9 million to less than 100,000. [1:48:32] The answers we could get it from there. [1:48:35] If we had the access, we don't. [1:48:37] And I'm still waiting for the reconciliation that I requested. [1:48:40] If the court can move the public. [1:48:42] Yes. [1:48:43] So I am OK, clearly, to continue with an opening to the public and to the commission. [1:48:52] And if possible, to request a demo or a training from the vendor. [1:48:58] Just a video is good. [1:48:59] I see them, but I think more of people in this commission should see them. [1:49:03] Of the capabilities of the software. [1:49:06] Thank you, Commissioner Joseph, do you have anything to add? [1:49:09] No, I would like to also have access to the software in order to verify the numbers and see where funds are being moved from column to column. [1:49:25] Anyone else have any comments? [1:49:27] No, okay, I don't think that it would be a bad idea to get the video presentation, something from the company, Mr. City Manager. [1:49:39] But then you allow access as well. [1:49:41] We have to have it. [1:49:42] We have to have it. [1:49:43] We're paying for it. [1:49:45] Can I get a motion? [1:49:46] Motion. [1:49:47] Second. [1:49:48] On favor. [1:49:49] All right. [1:49:50] Next item, please. [1:49:52] Ninjee. [1:49:54] Ninjee is a resolution. [1:49:55] and improving your first amendment with all seasons and ports doing business as DICC. [1:50:00] This was Palace to saw holiday lights and decorations at various locations throughout the city. [1:50:05] We're going to put them up. [1:50:13] The picture. [1:50:14] We did not plan to do that. [1:50:16] It's in your agenda packet. [1:50:18] Okay. [1:50:18] All right, so please go ahead and we are. [1:50:22] Okay, so at the budget workshop, the first item was to discuss the new lighting plan based on the comments from the previous meeting. [1:50:31] only first to prove this item, and the conversation said consensus was to add red to the white lights on the trees, and so this new present end to [1:50:49] So this new packet that you have has the red lights on the trees and it has an [1:50:59] activity scene at Samson Ocean from Park and at Gateway Center on the stage or next [1:51:06] to the stage. [1:51:07] Do we have any public speakers? [1:51:09] David Virgil. [1:51:10] Okay. [1:51:12] Don't need to say your name David. [1:51:15] Hi. [1:51:15] Good evening. [1:51:15] name is David Virgil. I think the renderings of the holiday lights look great. [1:51:20] Um, my only thing, I really don't like is that they're right on top of the palm trees. [1:51:24] If you like it looks a little weird, but it looks okay. Um, but the coverage this year [1:51:29] looks much greater than previous year. So that's a plus. Also, the, um, snowflake [1:51:35] decorations, the light poles are made neutral and it gives this city like a win through [1:51:39] fuel so that way no one gets offended. So I think that's the great addition to city. Thank you. [1:51:45] any other public seeers? [1:51:46] No, man. [1:51:47] All right. [1:51:48] I'll take comments or questions from the commission. [1:51:51] Anyone? [1:51:52] And I will give the side of chance to speak. [1:51:56] Commissioner Lama. [1:51:58] No, I think it looks great. [1:51:59] We did receive a couple of emails stating that they see something [1:52:05] that I honestly don't see and they don't have symbols. [1:52:08] All right. [1:52:08] Let's just now, please, that's it. [1:52:10] So I just wanted to say that I did see it again and I don't see it. I think it looks great and, you know, I think the staff for [1:52:25] Who was interested in you? [1:52:28] Well, exactly. So anyhow. [1:52:31] So yeah, good job. Thank you. [1:52:34] Vice mayor. [1:52:34] I think it would look better with the green, but it's okay. [1:52:39] I know you guys, we took this word already and we went with the red. [1:52:43] Hey, this is just a rendering. We haven't done that. [1:52:45] I think it would look better with the palm trees with the green, [1:52:49] but at the end of the point. [1:52:51] And the labyrinths, I think, is pretty cool. [1:52:54] Hey, Mayor Joseph. [1:52:56] Yes, go ahead. [1:52:58] Just so you know, we are behind schedule technically with this. [1:53:02] We have to take it no changes. You have two choices today. You either approve this with the red and white or you go back to all white, which is what was originally presented. [1:53:11] We didn't want the all right. [1:53:13] Okay. Commissioner Joseph. [1:53:14] Yeah, I'm fine with it. I would have liked to see a little green in there, but I'm fine with it and everyone's entitled to their opinion as to what it looks like to them, you know. [1:53:26] Okay. [1:53:27] Can't get away from people having their own opinion? [1:53:31] Mr. Stoessent, any comments? [1:53:33] Okay. [1:53:34] I agree with David. [1:53:36] I don't like the red at all. [1:53:38] I love that the blue and white that we had before, because it was consistent with what the [1:53:42] buildings around us were doing, so it made it more holistic. [1:53:45] But I was outboded. [1:53:48] So we will go with the red and white. [1:53:51] I love the labyrinths. [1:53:52] It's going to be very, very cool. [1:53:54] So hopefully we can make sure that we get this despite us being behind schedule. [1:54:00] Can I get a motion please? [1:54:02] I'll make a motion. [1:54:04] Second. [1:54:05] All in favour? [1:54:06] All right. [1:54:07] Next item please? [1:54:10] 9H is resolution approving a second amendment to the project agreement with Keith and Associates [1:54:16] for Civil Engineering and Landscape Architectural Services for Bill of the Support. [1:54:20] Okay. [1:54:21] Mr. City Manager. [1:54:23] Mayor Vice Mayor, members of the Commission. [1:54:24] the surprises, the second amendment for the project for engineering and landscape architect [1:54:30] services at Bellavis to Park in an amount not to exceed 18,000, 900. [1:54:36] All right. [1:54:37] Do we have any public speakers? [1:54:39] No, ma'am. [1:54:40] Okay. [1:54:40] I'll take comments or questions from the commission. [1:54:42] I have on go ahead. [1:54:44] I'm a Jason question. [1:54:46] Not really about this, but I got an email about the bio walls. [1:54:51] And I know I asked you Susan a while back, but I haven't followed up, so you happen to. [1:55:00] All right, we're going to be able to do [1:55:07] the by-a-walls. We cannot do the by-a-walls with this project. [1:55:12] Okay, so that answers my question because that's what I thought. We have talked about, but I got an email and I figured I would just ask. [1:55:19] No, I was contact at all. Thank you. [1:55:21] Recording that. [1:55:24] Yes, I got the email as well. I actually thank you for reminding me about that. [1:55:29] That could be something interesting for us to do. [1:55:35] Any other questions? [1:55:36] I'll take a motion. [1:55:39] Any other seconds? [1:55:40] On favor. [1:55:42] Hi. [1:55:42] Okay. [1:55:42] Next item is nine. [1:55:48] Resolution of proving a third amendment to the agreement with the [1:55:50] Non-US construction for the installation of an emergency generator and building [1:55:54] Restoration at Gateway Community Center. [1:55:58] Okay. [1:55:58] Mr. City Manager. [1:55:59] Mayor Vice Mayor, Members of the Commission, this is a third amendment with Nunez for the installation of the emergency generator, and this is a time extension, not money, just time because the equipment was delayed and getting here. [1:56:14] Okay, so there's no financial implication here. [1:56:17] No. [1:56:18] All right, do we have public speakers? [1:56:19] No, ma'am. [1:56:20] Any comments for the Commission? [1:56:22] I just I had spoken with Susan earlier. [1:56:25] It said that this was already installed and I'm not for putting any additional money into [1:56:32] gateway. [1:56:33] I would like to see eventually gateway rebuilt, but um, okay. [1:56:40] Thank you, Commissioner Joseph, there's no money here. [1:56:43] I'll take a motion. [1:56:45] I need a second. [1:56:47] All in favor? [1:56:48] Hi. [1:56:48] Hi. [1:56:49] Okay. [1:56:49] Next item, please. [1:56:51] 9J is a resolution of proving a first amendment to the agreement with the virus services group for storm water management prevent of maintenance services. [1:57:01] Mayer by smear members of the commission. This is the company that we use to keep our storm water drains cleared. [1:57:10] And the original contract that we had the company went out of business. This is a secondary contract. [1:57:15] contract. Okay. Do we have public speakers? No, ma'am. Questions from the commission? No. No. [1:57:22] During the agenda review, I had asked some questions and I'm bringing them up now since we have people in the audience. [1:57:28] What sort of things that we can do to mitigate some of this so that we're not cleaning it as often and namely it's the leaf [1:57:36] floors that people use that then clog up the drains and it's it's new since it's a [1:57:44] big nuisance especially in I think golden shores and probably Atlantic Island where [1:57:48] there's a single family home certainly all over the city the city attorney went to the [1:57:52] restroom so I was advised that we cannot regulate the floors there's really nothing [1:58:01] we can do but we are going to look into potentially what we do have on the books to [1:58:06] enforce for greater enforcement because ultimately they'd cost us more money and we [1:58:12] have to clean it up more often. [1:58:14] The runny type of screens though we can install this over the grades. [1:58:20] We are not allowed to install the screens that we had discussed but I guess we can wait [1:58:25] for Alan to come back but that's really the issue. [1:58:29] So I had asked, is there a possibility to enforce it with a littering law, because technically [1:58:37] if you're moving the dead leaves to your neighbor's yard or your kind of throwing garbage [1:58:41] on their yard, but I don't know how realistic that is. [1:58:45] You have to catch someone actually doing it. [1:58:49] In any case, this is something that I'd like to look at further, because it's a expensive, [1:58:56] inexpensive. [1:58:57] The lowers that are actually vacuums, I have. [1:59:00] I apparently may feel very fast about what nobody uses them, but thank you for being the one person that uses it. [1:59:08] All right, I'll take a motion. [1:59:10] Motion moved. [1:59:12] All right, all right. [1:59:13] All right. [1:59:13] All right. [1:59:14] Next item. [1:59:18] 9K is a resolution of moving with amendment to the agreement with empty causally LCs who provide non-exclusive structural inspection and plans review services on an as needed basis. [1:59:29] Mr. City Manager? [1:59:31] Mayor Vice-Fair Member is a commission that's approved a fourth amendment with the empty [1:59:35] costly for the company that we're using for structural inspections and plan review on [1:59:42] as needed basis. [1:59:44] Do we have public speakers? [1:59:46] No, ma'am. [1:59:47] Okay. [1:59:47] Comments or questions, Mr. Commission? [1:59:49] Yes, I do have. [1:59:50] Go ahead. [1:59:51] So we start this contract in 2023. [1:59:54] for an initial net-to-exit-a-mown of 5th. [2:00:00] $30,000. This is bringing us to a net to exit amount of $810,000. A jump from $50 to $800,000. Once again, then I don't [2:00:19] know how anyone with any common sense can justify this. During the budget, only one workshop that we [2:00:28] They decided the staff to cut the four positions that also could help with this, the four inspection positions. [2:00:38] So we need to consider what is it that we are doing here. [2:00:41] If our sourcing is the answer, which will have those numbers in front of us. [2:00:46] Oh, probably which will be hiring. [2:00:48] Right now we are spending $6 million to build a state of the art building department in front of us. [2:00:56] And we are of sourcing almost a million dollars of inspections. [2:01:01] This doesn't add up. [2:01:03] So this makes no sense how we go from 50,000 to 810,000 from 2023 to now. [2:01:12] So I'm completely against this. [2:01:14] And this was to my point of how we are using our building restrictive fund. [2:01:20] Okay. Any other questions? [2:01:23] Mr. City Manager, could you clarify how these costs are covered and whether permit fees [2:01:31] cover this and answer the question of how do we get to that number from 2023? [2:01:38] This has been one of the most difficult positions to fill in the building department structural [2:01:42] inspector and structural plan review. [2:01:45] So we've tried various, well, we've hired different people and then they're here for [2:01:51] not very long time before they were recruited by other agencies. [2:01:55] So it's very difficult for us to retain and fill this position. [2:01:59] So the cost for the services are covered by the permit fees. [2:02:03] What percentage is covered by the permit fees? [2:02:05] All of it. [2:02:06] Bye, low. [2:02:07] All right. [2:02:08] Any questions? [2:02:10] I'll take a motion. [2:02:12] So move. [2:02:12] Second. [2:02:13] Second. [2:02:14] On favor. [2:02:15] And you post? [2:02:16] No. [2:02:16] Okay. [2:02:17] Next item. [2:02:20] 9L. [2:02:21] 9L is a resolution of proving an agreement. [2:02:25] Excuse me, approving a parking license agreement between the City of Sanialis Beach. [2:02:29] L apply a beta associates for the use of a portion of the parking lot under the Lehman Cosway. [2:02:36] May or vice mayor members the commission. [2:02:38] We were approached by the L apply a beach associates requesting parking under the Lehman. [2:02:43] So they can accommodate overflow parking for their projects and the rate that they would be paying is 11,200 per month for 28 spaces. [2:02:57] Okay, do we have any public speakers? [2:02:59] No, ma'am. [2:03:00] I will take questions or comments from commission. [2:03:04] Take a motion then. [2:03:05] Mayors, there's just one of them. There's like a scripteners errors in the license fee. [2:03:09] The numbers right, but the letters are wrong, so we'll fix that, but it's just a scripteners error. [2:03:14] Okay, thank you for that. [2:03:15] Thank you for that. [2:03:15] Thank you for that. [2:03:16] All right. [2:03:17] Motion. [2:03:18] I need a motion. [2:03:19] I'll make a motion. [2:03:20] Second. [2:03:20] Second. [2:03:21] On favor. [2:03:23] Okay. [2:03:23] Next item. [2:03:26] 9. [2:03:27] And as a resolution approving. [2:03:30] Excuse me. [2:03:31] As in Mary. [2:03:32] As a resolution approving. [2:03:33] The first amendment to the urban qualification. [2:03:36] Cooperation agreement. [2:03:37] Between the city of sunny out speech. [2:03:39] And my immediate county for participation in the community development block grant. [2:03:43] the Government Investment Partnerships and Emergency Solutions grant programs for [2:03:47] officially years, 2027 through 2029. [2:03:52] May our Vice Mayor members the commission. [2:03:54] This is necessary for us to have an agreement with Miami-Dade County. [2:04:00] If they get money, then we could get a portion of it. [2:04:04] If then scenario would be a pass through from the county to us if we qualify. [2:04:10] If we don't have the agreement in place, then we cannot, we will not be able to receive [2:04:16] any money from them. [2:04:19] Do we have public speakers? [2:04:20] No, ma'am. [2:04:21] Questions from the Commission? [2:04:23] And what is this agreement involving that we might have a grant? [2:04:33] The grant that we could possibly, well, it's community development block grants. [2:04:41] We're not sure if we would be able to access any of this, [2:04:46] but just in case we want to have the agreement in place. [2:04:50] So we don't have to do an order to qualify. [2:04:54] It's a contract. [2:04:56] It's based on your annual... [2:05:00] So your income. We probably do not, nobody in our city probably qualifies for this. However, as things change, we may potentially have people in the city that would qualify for the HUD grants. It's HUD. [2:05:15] Oh, HUD. [2:05:16] Yeah, I don't think we have too many. [2:05:19] Well, sadly, maybe growing, but Commissioner Lamon, did you want to add something? [2:05:23] No, no, I just wanted to say that. I think there's this percentage here within the city that may. [2:05:29] Yeah. Okay. So we just need to obviously consider that. Yeah, just have to be a part of in order to potentially benefit. [2:05:36] I'll take a motion. So I'll make a motion. [2:05:39] Take them. All right. All right. All right. All right. We're down to nine and nine. [2:05:44] Nine and as a resolution presents a section of 5.1 of the municipal charter calling for a general election to be held on Tuesday. [2:05:51] November 3rd, 2026 for the purpose of submitting to the electorate of the city of Sunni out speech. [2:05:56] The names of all qualified candidates for elections and positions of mayor, city commission too, and city commission [2:06:02] seat four, and providing for a run-off election if necessary, on December 1, 2026. [2:06:09] In commissioners, this is the annual, excuse me, the resolution that we propose every two years to call for a general election. [2:06:17] This is four November 3rd. [2:06:19] The list of duly qualified candidates, which was held between August 3rd and August 7th, [2:06:27] is listed in the memo. [2:06:30] If you're like I can read them very quickly, or position of mayor, we have Lerous Asfetion, [2:06:37] Dana Coleman and Robert Spence, Jr. [2:06:40] The 3rd for C2, we have Stephen Hirsch, David Virgil, Robert Valchunas, and Alexander [2:06:48] and for seat four, we have Kelly McCruz Gonzalez and Maggie Gordo. [2:06:57] So this calls for that election, and also in the event of Iran off, it will be held [2:07:02] on December 1st, 2026. [2:07:04] Do you have any public speakers? [2:07:06] No. [2:07:07] Mauricio, if you can, please, because there have been times in the past where there has been [2:07:12] confusion as to what portion of this city actually controls and us having a resolution implies [2:07:17] that we have a lot of control over this specifically, if you can mention, losing the church location as a polling place. [2:07:25] Yes, so we have very little control, especially me and my position as supervisor of election for the city [2:07:33] is limited to ministerial functions in terms of the selection of sites to serve as polling locations. [2:07:41] only the events of their being [2:07:45] a location that's unavailable if we're notified by the election's apartment. [2:07:50] We may be able to assist in finding an alternate site. [2:07:53] However, that is purely up to the election's apartment. [2:07:56] There are the ones that select the sites based on [2:08:00] population and location. [2:08:04] And the site agreeing to, [2:08:06] and the site, of course, agreeing to hold it as a polling location. [2:08:09] So, in this case, I'm excuse me, yeah, go ahead for these elections, the precinct at St. [2:08:19] St. Bygelin is moved to Gateway Center. It's temporary from what I'm told by the [2:08:25] elections department, but it will affect the general elections on November 3rd, as well as the possible [2:08:32] runoff elections on December 1st. We don't know yet. We don't know how long this will be at the very [2:08:39] will be for this election cycle. And to mitigate that inconvenience, I've spoken with this [2:08:45] city manager and we will be offering a shuttle service for all those that are affected [2:08:50] in that area to be able to be transported over to the KW Center. [2:08:55] Okay, and during this primary, I got some calls from residents that believe that they can [2:08:59] change their location based on how close it is to them. So again, since you have the opportunity [2:09:05] do you now and people are watching, can you clarify how control, which we don't have, what [2:09:10] decides where they vote. So, for instance, someone that lives in Central Pay wants to [2:09:17] vote a gateway, but that's the cut-off district. [2:09:20] Yes, so we've received several complaints and I would say almost every year we have at [2:09:25] least one or two complaints from residents of Central Pay where they complain and understand [2:09:31] reasonably slow of why they have to go to Arlin House to vote when they have a [2:09:36] person right across the street from them. Again, that's one of the things that we [2:09:40] don't have any control over. That's all determined by the elections [2:09:44] apartment. They're the ones that draw the boundaries. Again, based on population. [2:09:48] Okay. Thank you. All right. Any other questions or comments in the commission? [2:09:52] And adding to the confusion is that what we use as our boundaries for establishing [2:10:00] Our districts, it's slightly different from what the county does for where you vote. [2:10:07] And right, just like Sandra Pay also, we have the unnamed building that we couldn't think of earlier meeting. [2:10:14] It would make sense that they vote here. [2:10:16] Right, but they, they would have to church. [2:10:18] And now these people here are going to have to go to gateway. [2:10:21] Right, so even though it makes sense that they would come here, you know, but that's the county determinants. [2:10:26] So, when we have the buses, Mauricio, they're going to be on-site at the church. [2:10:30] I want to just make sure it's clear that we're not going to be driving around picking up people. [2:10:34] They're just going to be at the old piece station at the church and it'll be around trip, [2:10:41] but yeah, it's not on demand. [2:10:43] Okay, so we'll do our best to let people know, but I know that the supervisor of elections [2:10:48] already sent out many notices. [2:10:50] Yes, each person that's affected in that precinct or in that precinct, has received the temporary [2:10:56] appointing location change card that they can take to the [2:10:59] present to make sure that they are able to vote at that location. [2:11:03] In addition to that, we also sent out our own notices to let everyone know [2:11:12] all the residents of the city to know that that change has been made. [2:11:15] Okay, I'll take a motion then. Motion. [2:11:18] Need a second? Second. On favor. All right. All right. [2:11:26] speakers? We do have speakers as well. So the first person is Stephen Hirsch. [2:11:35] We've got three minutes. [2:11:38] Just a few comments from the workshop today. [2:11:47] The regarding the issue of parties and permits and our beach. [2:11:53] I would just hope, having listened to the entire conversation, that the commission would seek [2:12:02] input from residents on the west side of Collins, as well, as beachfront properties [2:12:08] to try to ascertain what if any is the real problem before we automatically say that there [2:12:18] a problem. It's clear that our ordinances do need some work, [2:12:23] irrespective of what that survey may find. And I would hope that the commission would be able to [2:12:34] get rid of the ambiguity and wording and the definitions that were described during the workshop today. [2:12:43] The Commission goal should be, I would hope, to balance the rights of all the stakeholders of every resident of this city and attempt to allow beach activities into a win-win situation for all residents, whether to the west side of Collins or whether they're on the ocean. [2:13:04] The last thing we need is animosity between geographic areas of our city. [2:13:13] There's plenty of beach to go around for everyone in our city. [2:13:18] One important comment that I would hope is that there is absolutely no commercial activity on the beach [2:13:27] as this commission discussed that would create a bad precedent. [2:13:36] I got to go fast. [2:13:38] So, as far as the inspector general comments, [2:13:42] I think it's important that if this is, [2:13:46] and I have no position on this other than to say, [2:13:49] the important thing is defining what if any rights or responsibility [2:13:54] this inspector general was going to have or her have. The one comment though I did [2:14:02] here mentioned about the police department that I think may present a problem [2:14:08] of course to further out the city attorney but I believe that civilian oversight [2:14:14] of law enforcement in the state of Florida is precluded and finally I would support [2:14:25] the exploration of the community center for our city. I think that would be if it's [2:14:34] thought out and found well that would be a good idea. Thank you for this evening and thank you [2:14:42] Good night. Thank you. Okay, any other speakers? [2:14:46] More in chat. [2:14:51] Good evening Mayor, Vice Mayor, members of the commission. [2:14:55] My name is Martin Shaddick. I live at 100 Kings Point Drive. [2:14:58] And the city has built a... [2:15:00] This is a beautiful park called Inner Coastal Sports Park, and I have a view from it from my patio. But I have an issue. They have a light that says in your coastal sports park that illuminates 24 hours pretty much throughout the night. And it's, it's an isor. And in addition to that, it also reflects on the water that the park sits on. And it's even more of an eyesight. So I just wanted to just bring that to your attention. Thank you very much. [2:15:29] Thank you. [2:15:29] That's appreciated. [2:15:31] Any other speakers? [2:15:32] Great. [2:15:37] Maybe May of Commission. [2:15:38] Great. [2:15:39] Capital. [2:15:39] Two five seven points in Island Drive. [2:15:41] Observing the workshop this afternoon was more like a commission meeting. [2:15:46] It was a lot of information that went on there. [2:15:48] Some of it was disturbing. [2:15:50] One part that was disturbing was sound like an allegation of missing money. [2:15:54] And within the budget related to the building department. [2:15:57] I hope that becomes transparent. [2:15:59] may be discussed in an open commission meeting that could be addressed openly because it [2:16:05] sounded disturbing to say the least. The other part that was somewhat disturbing was about [2:16:12] the city manager, a vote of no confidence. I found this manager which came through in a very [2:16:26] supportive, responsive, and I hope it doesn't go that way again. With that kind of [2:16:33] toxic transition that was alluded to in the next commission meeting as new [2:16:39] commissioners come on board. Thank you. Thank you. Any other speakers? [2:16:43] Your meds. [2:16:51] I agree. Thank you for waiting. I know you've been patient, so I'll give you a [2:16:55] little extra time. My name is Igor Meetz. My address is about seven, five, five, [2:17:01] in Zalinyu, a partner with 507. I have a small issue. We have a group of residents of Sanyals [2:17:09] who play in Sagar on the Pilekan Park field for about 15 years. We play in twice a week [2:17:18] Friday night and Sunday night from 7-9. We always applied for the permit and we don't have [2:17:27] any problem to get this permit from the American Park Management. [2:17:34] But starting September 2005, there is no reason to give us permit for playing Sunday night. [2:17:46] And without permit, they don't give us the goal, so we have to come and bring our small [2:17:54] goal is, which is designed basically for Kindergarten. [2:18:00] So, my question, if you help us somehow [2:18:06] to get Sunday to turn it back, we will really appreciate it. If any issues need to discuss, [2:18:14] we will open this, but we don't know the reason why that can't so much. Thank you so much. [2:18:18] Yes. [2:18:19] Do we have an answer? [2:18:20] No, we're not an answer. [2:18:22] Do we have any other speakers? [2:18:24] No other speakers. [2:18:25] Okay. [2:18:25] Sir, you're welcome to talk to Commissioner Joseph after the meeting adjourn. [2:18:28] Thank you, everyone, for for attending and your patients and your input meeting adjourn.