[0:00] So, I'll be doing roll call tonight. So,
uh Dennis can write them down and he can
[0:05] follow up for the next one. So,
uh
[0:08] or is that what you're doing?
No?
[0:12] Okay, I'll do it.
[0:15] Yep.
>> We can do that first thing if you like.
[0:19] » So,
>> All right.
[0:21] » Close enough to 5:30 for everybody?
>> All right, I'd like to call this meeting
[0:25] to order and you said you were going to
take care of the roll call.
[0:27] » Yep. I'll take care of the roll call.
So, uh Oscar?
[0:32] Douglas?
Dennis?
[0:35] » Yep.
>> Steven?
[0:36] » Present.
>> And
[0:39] Christian?
>> Christian Nunes, yes.
[0:41] » Present.
>> Okay. Um and before we start with the
[0:45] public hearing,
um Katie needs to swear in Oscar. So, if
[0:50] we can do that real quick.
[0:58] And yeah, I think you guys get it
tomorrow.
[1:00] » Okay.
[1:03] » Okay, raise your right hand.
You're going to repeat after me.
[1:08] I swear.
>> I Oscar swear.
[1:10] » Do you solemnly affirm?
>> Do you solemnly affirm?
[1:12] » That I will support the Constitution of
the United States.
[1:15] » That I will support the Constitution of
the United States.
[1:17] » The laws and Constitution of the state
of Washington.
[1:19] » The laws and Constitution of the
state of Washington.
[1:22] » And ordinances of the city of Sunny
Side.
[1:24] » And the ordinances of the city of Sunny
Side.
[1:26] » And that I will faithfully discharge
>> And that I will faithfully discharge
[1:30] » the duties of my official capacity
>> the duties of my official capacity
[1:33] » for the city of Sunny Side
>> for the city of Sunny Side
[1:36] » according to my
>> according to my ability.
[1:39] » I pledge this.
>> Thank you.
[1:49] » Welcome.
[1:51] » The floor is all yours, Mr. Chairman.
>> All right.
[1:55] Are we ready to start the public
hearing?
[1:58] All right.
I will now open the public hearing.
[2:04] This is an open record public hearing to
consider the plan unit development and
[2:08] preliminary plat for the Sugar Beet
Ranch. City file number PUD-26-1,
[2:16] PLP-26-2,
and SEPA 26-4.
[2:22] The pur- purpose of this hearing is for
the planning commission to consider the
[2:25] record, hear the staff recommendations
and testimony from the applicant
[2:30] and the public. At the close of this
hearing, the planning commission will
[2:34] make a recommendation to city council.
[2:38] In the appearance of fairness, this is a
quasi-judicial hearing.
[2:43] As for the appearance of fairness
doctrine controls, each commissioner
[2:46] must answer affirmatively or negatively
the following questions.
[2:52] Okay? We have four questions we need to
ask.
[2:56] Do you have an interest in the property
or application, or do you own property
[3:01] within 300 ft of the property subject to
the application?
[3:08] And answer yes or no.
>> Just asking if you have any interest in
[3:12] the property or application. Or do you
own any property?
[3:16] » I thought I was involved in that.
>> No, you don't have any
[3:18] » You own property
>> Oh, no.
[3:20] » No.
[3:23] » No.
>> My answer is also no.
[3:25] » No.
>> You can figure it out.
[3:27] » No.
>> All right. The second question. Do you
[3:31] stand or gain to lose any financial
benefit as a result from the outcome of
[3:36] this proposal?
[3:39] » No.
No.
[3:41] » My answer is also no.
>> No.
[3:44] No.
>> Okay.
[3:47] Can you hear and consider the
application in in fair objective manner
[3:51] without bias.
>> Yes. Yes.
[3:57] » Yeah.
>> My answer is also yes.
[3:59] » Yes.
>> Yes.
[4:01] » Okay.
Have you had any ex parte communication
[4:06] with the applicant or anyone else
regarding this application?
[4:13] » All right.
Um
[4:16] I'll put yes.
>> Yeah.
[4:18] » Yeah.
>> You mean communication with the
[4:21] applicant?
>> Um it was more of a
[4:26] kind of like a proposal to bylaws but
other than that, no.
[4:30] I don't know if that still stands on
that.
[4:35] » Can you elaborate a little bit more on
that?
[4:36] » Bylaws?
>> Um
[4:40] no, I kind of seen the
>> So, basically the layout.
[4:43] » So, basically since you don't
In other words,
[4:48] they didn't communicate with you
regarding the application itself, right?
[4:51] » Oh, no. No.
>> So, it's a no on that.
[4:56] » I agree.
>> I work with you.
[4:57] » Yeah, no.
>> Sorry, I just wanted to make sure he
[4:59] understood what I meant.
>> to say it right. Yeah.
[5:01] » No.
[5:04] » Okay, my answer is also no.
>> No.
[5:06] » No.
>> No.
[5:10] » All right, is there anyone who wishes to
challenge any council members
[5:14] participation in this hearing on
appearance of fairness or grounds?
[5:20] » No.
[5:25] » Didn't know if we had anybody online
that was listening or
[5:28] All right.
[5:33] All right.
[5:36] The open record public hearing will be
conducted as follows. First, the
[5:40] planning consultant will present a
summary of staff recommendation.
[5:49] And this will be followed by testimony
from the applicant or the applicant's
[5:53] representative.
Then anyone in favor of the proposal
[5:58] will testify.
Followed by anyone in opposition to the
[6:02] proposal.
And after all members of the public has
[6:05] had the opportunity to provide
testimony, the commission may ask for
[6:09] additional staff or consultant comments.
Then the applicant may provide rebuttal
[6:14] statements or provide additional
testimony including answering questions
[6:18] from the commissioners.
[6:22] After testimony is concluded, the public
hearing will be closed and the
[6:25] commission will deliberate.
Does everybody on the commission and the
[6:30] audience understand these rules?
>> Yes.
[6:34] » Okay. Perfect.
So to begin, Joseph Calhoun, planning
[6:39] consultant, will present a summary of
the staff recommendation.
[6:45] » All right. Good evening, commissioners.
As stated, I'll be providing a summary
[6:49] of the planned unit development and
preliminary plat of the Sugar Beet Ranch
[6:55] project. The property under application
in this planned unit development is
[6:59] approximately 18 acres in size and is
currently vacant in use with several
[7:05] existing buildings from the previous
sugar beet factory use.
[7:10] The proposed uses are contained within
two primary phases.
[7:14] Area one includes a gated 62-lot
residential development with 54 lots for
[7:19] single-family homes and eight lots for
zero lot line single-level townhomes.
[7:23] Area one is approximately nine and a
half acres and will contain lot size
[7:28] light lot sizes from approximately 4,499
to 13,346
[7:34] square feet.
Area two includes three commercial and
[7:38] mixed-use lots that will be located
outside of those residential areas in in
[7:42] area residential uses in area one.
Lot 100 includes an existing masonry
[7:47] building that will be retrofitted as a
mixed-use mercantile village with rental
[7:51] bays, a restaurant, brewery on the first
floor, and apartments and conference
[7:55] areas on the second floor.
Lot 101 will have one-story retail
[7:58] building with multiple lease spaces. Lot
102 will be developed as a three-story
[8:03] mixed-use building that includes small
12 small condo and flex spaces on the
[8:08] ground floor with an 18 two-story
residential condo units above.
[8:13] The full project includes 97 residential
units and commercial areas that will
[8:17] provide space for between
71 to 166 employees.
[8:22] A notice of application and
environmental review was sent to
[8:25] adjacent property owners, SEPA agencies,
and published in the newspaper on July
[8:29] 8th,
and the public comment period ended on
[8:32] July 22nd. The SEPA mitigated
determination of non-significance was
[8:36] issued on August 20th, which included
mitigation measures related to the
[8:41] submittal of civil plans,
traffic control and access, proportional
[8:45] share contributions, and stormwater
requirements.
[8:48] The notice of tonight's public hearing
was issued and published in the
[8:51] newspaper on August 19th.
For findings, the recommendation
[8:55] includes several pages of findings and
analysis documenting where the planned
[8:59] unit development and preliminary plat is
consistent with relevant codes.
[9:05] The proposed lots meet or exceed zoning
district standards for lot size, width,
[9:09] and density.
The project has existing frontage on
[9:12] East Lincoln Ave and proposes new
internal private streets and easements
[9:16] to provide access.
City of Sunnyside water and sewer
[9:20] utilities will be extended throughout
the plat to serve the new lots and
[9:23] development.
Comments received from agencies or
[9:27] adjacent property owners were responded
to in the mitigated determination of
[9:31] non-significance and in the staff
report, which included mitigation
[9:35] measures and conditions were warranted.
There are several comments from public
[9:39] works and engineering related to the
proposed street layout, fire code
[9:42] requirements, easements, access, water,
sewer, and storm water requirements.
[9:47] In the municipal code chapter 1632,
there are several
[9:51] subdivision design requirements that are
applicable to the proposal, and the
[9:56] preliminary plat meets these design
requirements,
[9:59] or there's conditions that
ensure satisfaction of those
[10:03] requirements via fire code, easements,
and civil plan submittal.
[10:09] Also, in the municipal code chapter 1636
are improvement requirements applicable
[10:14] to the proposed subdivision. As with the
design requirements, the project meets
[10:19] those improvement standards
um either as proposed or as conditioned.
[10:24] The planning commission findings are
outlined in municipal code 1628110 and
[10:28] the recommendation includes an analysis
of all those findings notice noting
[10:32] compliance with the applicable criteria.
For conclusions, the planning commission
[10:38] has the jurisdiction to make a
recommendation to council regarding a
[10:41] planned unit development and preliminary
plat.
[10:44] This project as conditioned complies
with the procedures for approval of
[10:48] planned unit developments municipal code
1752070,
[10:52] long sub long subdivision design
requirements municipal code 1632, and
[10:57] long subdivision improvement
requirements municipal code 1636.
[11:01] A mitigation determination of
non-significance was issued on August
[11:04] 20th and was not appealed.
The proposed planned unit development
[11:08] and preliminary plat will serve the
public use and interest and provide for
[11:11] the possibility of creating new housing
and mixed-use development within the
[11:15] city of Sunnyside.
For a recommendation, based on the
[11:19] finding and conclusion, planning
consultant recommends approval of the
[11:22] project and there are several conditions
related to consistency with the
[11:26] mitigated determination of
non-significance, civil plan
[11:29] requirements including for the private
street components, acknowledgement of
[11:33] previous frontage requirements from a
short plat that was conducted on the
[11:37] site last year.
Fire code requirements,
[11:40] uh stormwater, utility easement, water
and sewer connection,
[11:45] SVID requirements, construction and
bonding, and that the final plat
[11:49] information and timeline be submitted
within the 5-year window as mandated by
[11:54] code.
So, with that, I'd be happy to answer
[11:58] any questions you might have.
And our um
[12:02] uh
designated city engineer, Mike Hyde, is
[12:04] here as well if there's any
engineering-related questions.
[12:16] » Anybody have any questions?
[12:21] Anybody online have any questions?
[12:27] » We do have one online, but it's not have
a hand up, so.
[12:32] » Okay.
All right.
[12:37] Would the applicant or applicant's
representative like to provide comment
[12:41] or testimony?
[12:51] » I'm Ryan Purdy. I'm the owner of SPR
Investments LLC. I don't have any
[12:55] testimony to provide, but I'm happy to
answer any questions if the council has
[12:58] any for me.
[13:02] » Anybody have any questions?
>> It seems like they went through the
[13:07] geotech, environmental, traffic impact
pretty well.
[13:11] So, they covered everything.
>> Of course, this is exciting to do this
[13:15] for the city. This is going to be
awesome.
[13:18] » Yeah? How long you been working on this
project?
[13:20] » 2 years.
>> About 2 years? Okay.
[13:24] » How soon do Do guys plan to start when
you guys get an approval or to that
[13:28] stage?
>> So, yeah, immediately. We have contracts
[13:31] already ready to go. They're um
ready to to close and and start to build
[13:35] immediately.
>> Oh, so you guys have all those stamped
[13:38] civil plans already?
>> We do have a little bit We haven't
[13:41] turned anything in for permitting yet.
>> Oh, okay.
[13:44] Nice.
>> Something that's uh
[13:48] come up on Facebook here and there
is uh historical significance of certain
[13:54] properties in
in the city of Sunnyside.
[13:58] Uh I just wondered if there's any
historic uh
[14:01] uh significance of this property.
>> I can answer that. There There
[14:05] absolutely is.
Uh
[14:09] There absolutely is. When we uh
purchased the property, um we dug into
[14:14] the history of the sugar mill, of the
factory, how it came about, who built
[14:18] it, uh how long it was active, uh and
those type of things. It was important
[14:22] to us that we didn't demo the building,
that we found new purpose for it to keep
[14:26] it as a landmark for the city of
Sunnyside. So, that is why we're uh
[14:31] maintaining the sugar mill factory and
turning it into an indoor mercantile so
[14:36] that we can attract uh
tourists, you know, people to come in,
[14:40] have a really cool place to go, but keep
the history and significance there.
[14:44] Along with a couple of the grain towers,
we will be keeping those as well and
[14:47] incorporating those in with the brewery.
So, it's a comfortable
[14:50] uh recognizable feeling for the citizens
of the Sunnyside to to continue to drive
[14:55] by, see, and see it be fully repurposed
into something new and fun today.
[15:03] » And how old is that building?
>> 1909.
[15:06] » 1909. Now, when's the last time it was
used for anything?
[15:09] » Uh well, it was only used for 3 years,
and then uh U of I, which is uh
[15:16] uh Utah and Idaho Sugar Company, they
actually removed all the equipment,
[15:19] packed it up, put it on a train, and
shipped it to Canada.
[15:22] So, it sat empty from there.
>> Well, okay. Have you guys got it
[15:26] inspected?
>> We have. Yep. Yeah.
[15:29] No No issues at all. We had a structural
engineer from Spokane come out and check
[15:32] the building right off the bat. It's
actually remarkably well-built. I mean,
[15:36] it is It's pretty awesome.
>> Well, back then they built things to
[15:41] last, so I'm not
>> They They certainly did.
[15:45] » What about the sewer capacity
in that street?
[15:49] Since I know we have having an apartment
coming.
[15:52] » Yeah, that is correct. I I turn that
over to the engineer.
[16:00] » Yeah, there's We're just redid the 9th
and uh
[16:03] Lincoln lift station, but uh the
apartments actually go out the other
[16:07] direction. They are heading south. Um
so, only the front each units like the
[16:12] car wash does go there and the and the
storage units, but the storage units
[16:16] obviously don't have a have much. So, um
really very little uh additional
[16:22] capacity was used in that. But, with the
with the um redevelopment of the 9th and
[16:27] and Lincoln lift station, it the
capacity is fine all through that area.
[16:31] So.
>> That's a good thing.
[16:32] » Yeah.
>> What about the What are requirements as
[16:35] the city's going to require by the
railroad tracks?
[16:40] » So, we're still looking into that with
the traffic control
[16:43] um
analysis and making sure that the we are
[16:47] able to uh obviously work with sugar
beets and uh
[16:51] make sure that all the traffic is done
correctly.
[16:55] » I'm assuming they're going to require a
block a
[16:59] blocking fence.
>> Well, there's several options are
[17:03] available to make that. That they're
still their traffic consultant um has
[17:08] looked at that. And uh there is a couple
proposals, but they're that is is
[17:13] triggered by a future phase of the
commercial development when they hit a
[17:17] certain level it has to be in place. So,
that is part of the mitigation that that
[17:22] is in here, but they'll be working that
out because there are several
[17:28] I shouldn't say several. There are a
couple options that are available, but
[17:31] they also rely on, you know,
participation with Walmart and other
[17:38] places so that, you know, to work that
out as an agreement. But, yes, whether
[17:42] it's a turn restrictions or
roundabout or, you know,
[17:47] there there's several options available
to them.
[17:50] » Okay.
Now, what about the cuz I was reading a
[17:53] the package and it says they proposed a
gated community.
[17:58] » Yes, it internally it's a gated private
road community. So.
[18:02] » Okay. And what about the city
>> For the residential section.
[18:04] » access to it in case of an emergency and
stuff like that.
[18:08] » They'll have fire gates. There'll be
knock boxes that, you know, and then for
[18:12] the fire access and emergency vehicle
access well.
[18:16] » Okay.
>> So.
[18:17] » They're mainly going to be private roads
in there. So, the city will not you
[18:21] know, obviate any part partake in
um
[18:25] any repairs or maintenance that goes
along with in there.
[18:28] So, it'll being a private road, like I
said, we only take care of the public.
[18:33] » Okay.
>> We just got to make sure that those
[18:36] wells are well because of ground water
according to the reports at 5 ft. So,
[18:41] that's a problem in Sunnyside if they
don't do the proper wells. Houses will
[18:45] start getting flooded.
>> Yeah, one of the conditions of approval
[18:48] is that all the streets need to meet the
international fire code and city of
[18:53] Sunnyside requirements.
So, fire code will definitely dictate
[18:57] access.
>> And and all the storm water will meet
[19:00] the Eastern Washington storm water
manual requirements which, you know, if
[19:04] you meet that, you meet the clean water
act. That that is what it's written
[19:08] around. So.
>> It's going going a great project.
[19:12] » On your uh
>> And tell you too, we also uh
[19:20] We also uh changed around our gutter
system, so we're running a river uh
[19:24] ribbon curb uh so that it keeps all of
the storm water above ground. So that
[19:28] that way we're not uh having to worry
about the the uh being too close to the
[19:33] ground water.
>> Okay.
[19:34] » So yeah, we spent a lot of time looking
at how to handle the water flow for
[19:38] sure.
>> Being that you're there, I've just got a
[19:40] question for you.
Um have you looked into any grants that
[19:44] are available for uh
restoring the historic building?
[19:48] » We we have. We've looked at some of
those. We've also looked at tourism
[19:51] grants, you know, things like that uh to
help come in and do it. But as is right
[19:55] now, we're not pushing any of those or
or going after them. It may be something
[20:00] we look at doing in the future, but I
think we're the way that we have the
[20:05] construction process set up and the
phasing that we're doing, uh
[20:08] we can
we don't need to go down that road, per
[20:11] se.
>> If the city had had a uh historic uh
[20:15] significance zoning,
would that be of any benefit?
[20:20] » That I'm not sure. I'd have to probably
seek a little advice or find out a
[20:24] little more information on that.
But it is a it's a good question. One
[20:28] I'd definitely look into it.
>> Thank you.
[20:30] » Yeah. Thank you.
>> For the record, I don't I don't think
[20:32] there is that in the code as it stands
now, and
[20:37] during the public process for this, we
didn't get any comments from DAH the
[20:41] Department of Archaeology and Historic
Preservation, but given the significance
[20:45] of that structure, you know, as you
noted, there may be grant opportunities
[20:49] in the future. It's something that
you know, the city and applicant can
[20:52] work towards if if that's something
desirable.
[20:55] » Well, it's my understanding if we had
such such zoning, that there could be
[20:59] money available for such things as a
museum and uh
[21:03] um
restoration of Roscoe Shellers
[21:07] home and things that you know that uh
uh have significance to Sunnyside or I
[21:13] should say a great significance.
Um
[21:17] but um
but we don't have that.
[21:23] » Another question. I think I read in the
package regarding the traffic impact of
[21:28] costing over 3 million and the applicant
has to come up with a 7.something
[21:32] percentage.
[21:37] All right, just
>> Yeah, that that is part of that's a
[21:39] mitigation, but that that is um projects
that uh that is actually by the state of
[21:46] Washington State Department of
Transportation.
[21:49] Um
that uh they have known projects, two
[21:53] roundabouts that are being constructed,
and that's just their proportionate
[21:56] share. As well as the apartments had a
had a bigger proportionate share of that
[22:01] that mitigation, so it's just
that that is what that particular
[22:07] uh roundabout
will could cost roughly 3 million
[22:11] dollars.
>> Okay. So, the developer has to
[22:13] contribute
>> Yeah, just their proportionate share.
[22:16] » Okay. So, it's 7.something usually or
depending on their project.
[22:19] » Well, no, it's 7.percent they
contributed 7% of the of additional
[22:24] traffic to that intersection, so they
have to contribute 7% towards the cost
[22:29] of of
>> It makes sense.
[22:31] » Yes.
[22:36] » Yeah, any questions?
>> Sounds like a great project then.
[22:40] » Nice.
>> Very good.
[22:43] » All right, I think we've already covered
this, but would the applicant or
[22:45] applicant's representative like to
provide comment or testimony, which I
[22:48] think you've already taken care of, so.
All right, would anybody else associated
[22:53] with the applicant like to provide
comment or testimony?
[23:01] All right, hearing none.
Would any member of the public
[23:06] like to provide testimony in favor of
the application? If so, please come to
[23:11] the podium, state your name and address
for the record.
[23:19] » The public are you guys.
>> applicant
[23:21] » Or whoever's ever online. We got one
person online, correct then?
[23:25] » Yes, still no hand raised.
>> Okay.
[23:30] All right. Well,
moving right along, uh would any member
[23:34] of the public like to provide testimony
in opposition to the application? If so,
[23:38] please come to the podium, state your
name and address for the record.
[23:47] Okay.
Are there additional Are there any
[23:51] additional staff comments?
[23:55] » Madam Chair, it's time.
>> Okay.
[24:00] And are there any additional statements
or comments from the applicant or
[24:04] applicant's representative?
[24:10] Okay.
[24:13] Does the commission have any questions
of staff or the applicant?
[24:20] All right, hearing none.
[24:24] I will now close the public hearing and
open the floor for commission
[24:28] deliberation.
[24:35] I will now entertain a motion.
[24:39] » I second that.
>> I would like to
[24:41] » Look, on the back page of that, there's
some sample motions that you could use.
[24:46] » Oh.
Okay, thank you.
[24:57] Do you have a minute?
>> Yeah, I'm I'm just looking at the other
[25:01] the other one here real quick.
[25:05] » Back of this one?
>> Yeah.
[25:07] » Yeah, I said you have to switch this one
here. Um
[25:11] » Oh, I see.
>> Yeah, I would I would like to move to
[25:15] recommend approval of the planned unit
development and preliminary plat of
[25:18] Sugar Beet Ranch as presented including
adoption of the staff recommendation as
[25:23] the findings of the planning commission.
>> Second.
[25:31] » I.
>> Okay.
[25:33] Okay.
Okay, we have a second. Um
[25:38] All in favor say I.
>> I.
[25:40] » I.
Anybody oppose? Same sign.
[25:44] Okay. The motion's been approved.
Um Thank you for your time during this
[25:49] hearing. The planning commission's
recommendation will be forwarded to the
[25:52] city council who in accordance with the
Sunnyside municipal code set of date for
[25:56] closed record public hearing and take
final action on the proposed planned
[26:01] unit development and preliminary plat of
Sugar Beet Ranch.
[26:05] So, thank you for coming.
[26:39] » So, at this time uh we'll have the new
people new members introduce themselves
[26:44] to the count well to the
uh
[26:47] past members or present members also.
Um
[26:51] We'll start with Mr. Nunez over here.
So,
[26:55] uh please state your name and
uh a little of your background.
[26:59] » Okay.
Uh
[27:01] my name is Christian Nunez. Um we're
we're a local company here.
[27:06] Um we do construction and development.
So, this is that's the main reason why
[27:12] I kind of wanted to get more into the
city with you guys to start seeing what
[27:16] I can do to like help and kind of
improve Sunnyside.
[27:20] So, I've worked a lot with like um
I've done a bunch of homes in Sunnyside.
[27:26] I worked a lot with Corey and and Omar
and that kind of just kind of
[27:31] pushed me to work more with the city and
see what, you know, what level I can
[27:36] bring Sunnyside to.
>> Good. Thank you thank you for being
[27:40] here.
Uh Mr. Figueroa
[27:43] » So, Oscar, you know, lifelong resident
here.
[27:47] Lifelong resident here and uh yeah, uh I
I'm a realtor, so I've been taking
[27:52] people from Sunnyside to Grandview and
uh just got tired of that. I was just
[27:56] like everybody wants to stay in
Sunnyside. So, if I can be part of the
[27:59] growth and just, you know, kind of get
things going, um that's kind of the goal
[28:02] and name here so that, you know, we can
see this town keep growing and people
[28:06] can choose to stay here.
>> Did you hear? So, thank you thank you
[28:11] you two for
coming back and again thank you for Mr.
[28:15] Ruiz to uh come back on to our planning
committee.
[28:19] Uh thank you for Mr. Shannon, Mr.
Bloomer, you know, for you guys'
[28:23] commitment here with us and uh
let's see where where the world can take
[28:27] us and have some fun.
>> Yeah.
[28:29] » So,
uh again, thank you you two, the new
[28:32] members. Uh we will have one more.
>> Yes. So, you're going to be reappointed
[28:37] tomorrow night.
>> You're right.
[28:39] » Yes.
>> Um and then we'll have
[28:44] Uh and then we'll have one more
appointment tomorrow for the planning
[28:48] » Mr. Nunez should be also done tomorrow
or
[28:52] » No, he was appointed in June.
>> Oh, you were?
[28:56] » Yes.
>> No, I was not. No.
[28:59] » No.
Okay, I will look into that.
[29:02] » As I say, I don't remember. I know he
was appointed, but I don't think he was
[29:06] ever sworn in.
>> Oh, sworn in. Okay, we can do that next
[29:09] time then.
>> Okay.
[29:10] » So.
>> Sounds good.
[29:11] » So, does he have to be tomorrow or yes
or no?
[29:14] » No, we'll swear you in at the next
planning commission.
[29:17] » Okay.
>> Okay.
[29:19] » I have a question.
>> Yes, sir.
[29:21] » Since I just re-volunteered or read up
Uh
[29:24] » Well, yours I found out your term had
never even finished.
[29:28] So, when you came on, your term is still
uh active.
[29:33] » Okay.
>> Until So, I believe you have 3 more
[29:35] years.
>> Yeah, 2028.
[29:37] » 2028. So, 2 more years.
>> Okay.
[29:40] » So.
I found that out.
[29:42] » Oh, good.
>> Congratulations.
[29:46] So.
Okay.
[29:48] » It was nice meeting all you guys. This
is new to me, so
[29:52] um my my goal is just to
take this, see what we can do to
[29:57] Sunnyside, and make it even better.
>> Anytime you you have my name and number,
[30:02] you know how to get a hold of me. You
can stop by anytime you have any
[30:04] questions. Um myself or Corey, and and
then we can reach out to Joseph if you
[30:09] have any questions about
um anything else. He's a great person to
[30:13] work with, and uh we appreciate
everybody at HLA,
[30:17] and uh Joseph's very knowledgeable in
zoning. He's between the three of us,
[30:23] I pick him all time.
[30:27] » Uh thank you guys. I appreciate that. I
really do.
[30:31] » So.
>> Yes.
[30:35] » All righty.
Um
[30:37] floor is all yours again, Mr. Chairman.
>> All right. over. Oh, that's okay. Sounds
[30:41] good. Glad you did. So, um
And for the two new people, welcome. And
[30:46] thanks again for your commitment and
wanting to do this. It's great. So.
[30:50] But definitely we're moving forward in
making Sunnyside definitely a better
[30:54] place and the best we can do. Okay. Um
public comments for non-active agenda
[31:00] items.
We kind of lost our public, didn't we?
[31:05] That's okay.
All right.
[31:09] Do we have any items from commission
members?
[31:14] Any thoughts?
[31:17] » So,
I think I don't know if it's outside the
[31:20] scope or where does this start as far as
trying to get a
[31:25] historic land use zoning? Is that a
something that the
[31:30] city council would have to do or is that
something that we can start or
[31:34] » Let me do some research on that.
Um
[31:38] on historical land use.
>> Historical land use, yeah. Cuz it's my
[31:42] understanding if we have a historical
land use zoning, there is a one to two
[31:48] $1 for every $2 spent grant
for updating and um
[31:55] and preservation of historic buildings
in Sunnyside.
[31:59] » Okay. So, let me let me do some digging
on that and
[32:03] we can surely bring it up at the next
planning meeting
[32:07] um
and go from there.
[32:09] » Do we even have land historical in
Sunnyside?
[32:12] » The sugar beets.
They're historical. It was
[32:16] » The museum.
>> The museum itself is another place.
[32:19] » Roscoe Sheller's house, which is falling
down. It's right above the park.
[32:24] » I'm not sure of that one, but uh
I can definitely look into that and
[32:29] preserve it if we can or you know,
spruce it up.
[32:33] Uh need be, especially if it's falling
down. You may want to
[32:36] » Roscoe Sheller's I looked it up on
Zillow and it's valued at $250,000.
[32:42] » I think even the old Carnation
uh tower
[32:45] um might be historical cuz it's been
here for quite some time. I think back
[32:49] when you were a kid aren't they back
there? 19 1919?
[32:53] » So, um
I think from what I read, I think
[32:56] anything over 50 years old
>> Okay.
[32:58] » can be a historic.
>> So, yeah. We would I'll definitely look
[33:02] into that and see uh
see what I can find.
[33:05] » And also, um
[33:08] when I when I used to work for the city
of Tumwater,
[33:12] um they had historic trees as well. Any
tree over 100 years old was added to the
[33:17] historic registry.
Which uh so, there was actually a tree
[33:21] board
that would uh
[33:24] uh
approve
[33:27] or
you know, they would
[33:29] basically look uh you know, any tree
over 100 years old could be added to the
[33:33] historic registry.
>> And yeah, the uh I believe we would need
[33:37] the arborist for that one and at this
time I am in talks with people to become
[33:42] the arborist. Um there's a little
training that comes after it, but I need
[33:46] all my ducks in a row first, so.
>> I know there's some trees in this area
[33:49] that are
way older than the city of Seaside.
[33:54] » I'll definitely look into that.
>> I have a question, Joe, so if a land use
[33:58] is historical and we have like, let's
say the sugar
[34:03] and stuff, can it be renovated
differently for land for usages?
[34:07] » Yeah, it can. So, there's a process for
establishing what's called a circuit
[34:12] certified local government CLG that's
through the Department of Archaeology
[34:16] and Historic Preservation. So, there's
some
[34:19] uh
ordinance changes that the city would
[34:22] need to implement and then that would
um open up that grant process that that
[34:28] Mr. Shannon was talking about. There's a
lot of different grant opportunities
[34:31] through the state that that could be a
potential, but it would have to start
[34:35] with establishing
those ordinances and becoming a
[34:39] certified local government
for that purpose that involves like the
[34:44] establishment of a historic preservation
commission similar to the planning
[34:48] commission.
And then the designation of historic
[34:52] properties
it doesn't really
[34:56] it doesn't mean you can't ever change
them or or, you know, if if they need to
[35:00] be torn down for whatever reason, it
doesn't preclude that. It just the it
[35:04] encourages the preservation of those
structures, provides potential grant
[35:08] opportunity to assist in that
preservation, but it doesn't mean you
[35:13] you can't do anything. It's just
again, it it encourages, you know,
[35:18] similar types of materials and things of
that nature, but, you know, if a new
[35:23] roof needs to go on a historic building
or something like that, you know,
[35:26] there's there's nothing that would stop
uh stop that from happening. Now,
[35:32] depending on how the ordinance is
crafted, there might be additional
[35:35] process to get there.
Uh there's
[35:38] that would have to be, you know, part of
the discussion in establishing that
[35:41] ordinance.
>> That makes sense. So, in this case, they
[35:43] can't qualify for a grant since they're
going to do it totally different.
[35:47] They're not going to preserve it.
They're going to change it.
[35:49] » Well, it depends on what you're doing.
There's
[35:52] There's properties that I've been
involved with within Yakima that did
[35:56] major renovations that they have to be
done in a certain way,
[36:00] uh but they it makes them eligible for a
tax incentive. Basically, you you spend
[36:05] you have to document all your
expenditures for a I think it's a
[36:08] 24-month period, and then there's a tax
incentive that you could be eligible for
[36:14] based on those expenditures if you're
keeping the historic nature, you know,
[36:19] of the property. But, there's a lot of
again, it's falls back on that certified
[36:23] local government status, and so there's
there's a lot of hoops to jump through,
[36:26] but it's it's an achievable
>> Thank you for the explanation.
[36:30] » Yeah.
[36:34] » Yeah, that was a great job on that. Um,
do we have any items from staff members?
[36:42] » Not at this time.
>> All right.
[36:44] » I I do just want to provide a brief
update. So, as you know, we've been
[36:48] going through the periodic update the
comp plan process. So, I'm working with
[36:52] Hector and staff to get the SEPA
determination finalized. That'll
[36:57] hopefully be going out next week. Um,
and really what we're looking at is your
[37:02] next meeting will be a public hearing
for the
[37:07] periodic update the comp plan, the
development regulations that we've
[37:10] talked about over the last several
months.
[37:12] And then your recommendation, as with
the planned unit development we just
[37:16] did, uh, that recommendation from the
planning commission will be presented to
[37:19] council for the final action. So,
just summarize, you know, with the grant
[37:25] on that project, that's everything has
to be wrapped up by the end of the year.
[37:28] So, this timeline getting it to you in
October, and then council action
[37:34] November, early December, will keep us
on that timeline so the city can be
[37:38] reimbursed for all the work that's been
done on that project.
[37:42] » Do you know when they, uh, possibility
of breaking ground or
[37:46] » For the sugar beet?
>> Yeah.
[37:48] » Well, first it'll have to go, uh, you
know, with the action tonight, we'll
[37:52] finalize the planning commission's
recommendation. There's a a couple of
[37:57] steps that need to happen to schedule
the council date for their public
[38:01] hearings. They have to have their final
hearing to to do the the complete
[38:06] approval of the application.
Once that happens, then
[38:11] that opens the door for the applicant to
finalize their plans, get them submitted
[38:16] in so they can be reviewed. Once that
review happens and those plans are
[38:20] stamped off and signed, then they can
begin on the all the groundwork, you
[38:24] know, for the roadway, utility
extensions, all the things that have to
[38:28] be done before you can start actually
building.
[38:31] » So, maybe uh 2028?
>> Depends on how far along it sounded like
[38:35] they
you know, had already put some some
[38:38] plans together, but you know, those need
to be reviewed and and everything. And
[38:42] then there's
construction windows, which which Mike
[38:45] could talk about.
>> Yeah, I would I would expect and they
[38:48] have multiple phases, so I'm not sure
which they're attacking first. I I
[38:53] believe that they have some commercial
um components along the frontage there
[38:59] that they're pretty that they're pretty
interested in getting going as well as
[39:02] starting on the infrastructure for the
the housing. I would guess that this is
[39:07] probably a a spring
um time endeavor for them to get going
[39:14] with with the least the initial phases
of construction.
[39:18] » So, Catholic Charities is financing
this, correct?
[39:22] » Excuse me?
>> Is this Catholic Charities financing?
[39:25] » No.
>> I think the phase one and two was
[39:29] residential, if I read it correctly.
>> Yeah, in in that they have a separate
[39:35] um
>> There was already
[39:37] » There's another short plat.
>> Yeah, there's another short plat that
[39:40] yes, of those little frontage lots, I
think there's three of them that is
[39:44] commercial that I'm not sure whether
they're planning on doing that first or
[39:48] hitting the the residential. The sugar
beet part of the is their last phase of
[39:54] that of this commercial development cuz
it's it's a much bigger undertaking,
[39:58] which requires more um offsite
improvements. So,
[40:02] » Plus, we still have to look at the
traffic analysis.
[40:04] » Yes, and
>> There's a couple Like Mr. Hyatt said
[40:07] that that
we have to recommendations that we have
[40:11] to really look into. Um just obviously,
we all know that during the school time
[40:15] it's pretty packed there. So, we have to
make sure we were able to
[40:20] uh move forward with that first.
>> Okay.
[40:22] Seems this company it's has everything
on roll.
[40:27] » Yeah, they're on point.
>> Yeah.
[40:30] » So, any idea how many projects they've
already done?
[40:35] As far as
>> This group I'm I'm not sure. I think
[40:37] they're based out of Tri-Cities, so
primarily do work there.
[40:41] » Okay.
[40:49] » All right, we can move on to the next
meeting.
[40:53] Anybody have a calendar in front of
them?
[40:56] I'd have to turn my phone on to look it
up.
[41:03] » Yeah, October 13th.
[41:07] » Okay.
Same time?
[41:10] » Same time.
[41:13] » All right. Well, I'd like to make a
motion to adjourn.
[41:17] » Second.
[41:19] » All right.
>> All in favor.
[41:20] » All in favor.
>> Aye.
[41:21] » Aye.
>> All right.
[41:22] » Thank you very much.
>> Meeting's adjourned at 18:10. Thank you.
[41:27] » Okay.
[41:29] Okay.
[41:32] One moment.