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be too clueless.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I think everything else is

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» She just has like this.
I finally sink the clock.

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» Oh, yeah. Good.
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» Yeah, it is.
>> There we go.

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» Well, that one's We're still a little
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more seconds.

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» Okay.
Good evening everyone.

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Thank you for joining us. I'd like to
call this regular council meeting today,

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Wednesday, September 23rd, 2026 to order
at 6 p.m.

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First item is a call to order. Um,
madame city clerk, would you initiate

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roll call? Councelor Chavez,
>> here.

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» Councelor Zeti here.
>> Councelor Vasquez has asked for an

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excused absence. Is there any
>> any opposed?

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» No objection.
>> Objection.

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» Uh, councelor Dolan
>> here.

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» Councelor Govan
>> here.

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» Deputy mayor
>> here.

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» Mayor
>> here. There is a quorum.

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Thank you, Katie.
Moving on to agenda approval. Could I

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entertain a motion to approve the agenda
for the September 23rd, 2026 regular

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meeting
as presented?

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I motion to approve the agenda for
September 23rd, 2026 regular meeting.

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» I'll second.
>> Motion by councelor Zati, seconded by

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councelor Chavez. Is there discussion?

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» Hearing none.
>> Councelor Chavez,

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» yes.
>> Councelor Zeti,

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» yes.
>> Councelor Dolan,

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» yes.
>> Councelor Gavan,

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» yes.
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» yes. Mayor,
>> yes.

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» Motion carries.
>> Okay. Next item on the agenda is

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invocation. Do we have anybody here to
do okay please approach the podium? Um

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whoever is able to please remain
standing after invocation for the pledge

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of allegiance.
>> Our heavenly father we thank you for uh

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the opportunity to be able to be here
this evening. We thank you for your

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grace and your mercy. We thank you for
the fall and the wonderful harvest that

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we're enjoying and all of the bountiful
benefits that you've given us. Father,

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we pray for our town. We just ask that
you would touch it in a special way. We

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think of all of the our first uh
responders that they would be safe and

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all of their uh goings on. We pray for
the city manager that you'd grant them

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wisdom and strength. We think of all of
the city staff and whatever job they

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happen to be at. We just pray that you'd
be with them and help them and grant

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them safety. Father, we think of all of
the city council members and we thank

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you for them. We just ask that you'd
grant them wisdom and safety in all the

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things that they do. And then, Father,
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children and the teachers and all of the
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district. We just ask for each of them
and their for their safety. And then we

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think of the local businesses. Father,
we just ask that uh the new ones would

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grow and the existing ones would get
even better. And we just thank you for

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all of the things that are available
here. And then we just thank you for the

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blessings that you've given us on our
town. And we just thank you most of all

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for your son Jesus Christ who died on
the cross for us. In Jesus' name we

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pray. Amen.
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» To the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for which it

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stands. One nation under God indivisible
with liberty and justice for all.

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Okay, [clears throat]
up next on the agenda, we do have a

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proclamation that was presented.
Um, it was submitted to our city clerk

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and that is around suicide prevention
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Um
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someone the individual who submitted the
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invited um some members of community. Uh
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I'd like to present this to the council
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um proclaim uh suicide prevention
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proclamation.
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» Um I do see the the Ramos family here
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if maybe we or if they want to say any
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» maybe
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» after we voted. Yeah. Okay.
>> That'd be great. Yeah.

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» With that, I move to approve.
>> I'll second.

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» Okay. Got a motion by councelor Galvan,
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Is there a further discussion from the
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Okay. Hearing none. Would you initiate a
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» Uh, councelor Zeti?
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» Councelor Dolan?
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» Councelor Gavan?
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» Councelor Chavez,
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» Deputy Mayor,
>> yes.

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» Mayor, yes. Motion carries.
>> Thank you.

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Okay, as uh councelor Galvan mentioned
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and we do have the individual who
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moment I um would like to invite anyone
who u may have a comment before we read

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in um the proclamation into the record
and you may approach the podium.

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Good afternoon, council. My name is
Diana Gutierrez, lifelong Sunnyside

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resident and chair of the arts
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the individual who submitted the
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was invited to attend the Walk for Hope.
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speech just by gathering all the um
community all the resources that they

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provided and I felt it necessary to
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um we've lost so much um people to this
in our city and just worldwide but you

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know specifically in our hometown and I
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to just bring this recognition and
wanted to give um flowers where they are

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due because thanks to the Ramos and
Garcia family, we do have this wonderful

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event that happens um every year now for
5 years to bring awareness to this and

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um yeah, that's all I have to say. I did
write my name on the public comment for

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this part, so maybe we can just cross
that off when you guys get to it. Um and

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I will invite anyone else in the family
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» [clears throat]
>> Thank you so much, Diana.

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» Hello. It's my first time here, so
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I'm going to use this opportunity to
just talk a little bit about our Walk

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for Hope uh event that Deian is talking
about. So, um I lost my son to suicide

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about four and a half years ago. He was
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School, a captain of a soccer team, had
just signed to a college and planned to

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pay the play there. Um,
I want to thank Tom Dolan who went that

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day to to my house and George Galvan who
supports the event also by providing

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transportation from us for us after we
walk um from the Centennial Square to

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the Sunnyside High School and um both
Leticia and Ramon have been there to the

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event. So, thank you guys for all your
continued support. Um, and I I know you

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guys got a really tough job. So, I just
want to say thank you to everyone here

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and also thank you to supporting uh this
proclamation. It's it's important. Um

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since I've lost my son, we started the
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And in researching ways to prevent
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just to my own. Um I learned that
community walks and events like the Walk

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for Hope can be very beneficial. And so
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was pretty big family here. And we
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it's been growing and we've even
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nearby towns that want to contribute and
collaborate. So I just want to say um

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it's important work. we've lost more
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unfortunately,
I've spoken to too many people that have

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um shared [clears throat] that if they
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even talk about it cuz there's too much
stigma surrounded around a loss of

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suicide. I know it's difficult to talk
about um and if it's difficult for

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adults and if you're feeling uneasiness,
I can't even imagine what it's like to

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be a kid, a young person. So, by us
having these tough conversations, it

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opens the doors and brings down some of
those walls and stigmas, challenges that

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young people face to say those things,
to reach out for help. And that's our

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goal is to make connections with our
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also so that we can
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and um and work on the prevention, but
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challenges. So, thank you for listening.
>> Thank you so much for being here.

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Anybody else feel comfortable making a
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Okay, that's okay. Anybody from council
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read this into the record?
>> You know, um I've been attending this

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event, being part of this event. Um this
is this year was my first year not being

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able to attend. You know, I apologize to
the family. I wasn't able to attend this

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year. I was out of outhead of town. But,
you know, um it it it is I'm glad that

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we're bringing it to light. I deal with
this on a daily basis where I uh through

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part of my work. So bringing it to light
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people need to see that there's still
hope and there's many resources that are

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available for the people that are
struggling with it. And um you know I'm

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I'm still with you guys and u we'll be
doing it again next year.

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I just want to thank you guys for for
coming and um Elizabeth for for speaking

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on behalf of of the the great work you
guys are doing. Um you know having you

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hear about these things happening and um
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you don't think about how close to home
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myself um that was a big wakeup call.
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and I wasn't going to say anything
because I cry all the time, but um, you

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know, when my daughter came to me about
having some mental health issues, like I

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was on it, you know, and I think this
was this helps to open up the doors, you

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know. I I feel like I've always been
pretty um open with my my children, but

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sometimes it's probably not easy for
them to come to us. So, I appreciate all

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the work you guys are putting into this
event and I'm sure you guys are working

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year round with different things. So,
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» Um, yeah, just just thank you guys for
for being there and and for sharing

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those resources. Um, I know the first
[clears throat] year that I helped it

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was with one bus and it's now gone to
two buses, so it's it's growing. The

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event is growing. So, um, you know,
share with the community as soon as you

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guys know the next year's uh dates. So,
so they could plan on being there. I

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wasn't able to be there this past uh
event. I just had surgeries, but I'm

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glad that everything uh turned out okay.
Thank you guys.

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» Anybody else? No,
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Thank you, Councelor Chavez. Um,
I I didn't have anything prepared. Um

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this was very very quick. So thank you
Diana for for submitting this and

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reaching out to the families and other
members of community that have impact

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been impacted by um by by these types of
tragedies. Um, I know that a

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proclamation
um isn't, you know, everything that

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could possibly bring about all the
healing that our community needs and

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those who have been impacted um by
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um, mental health. Um, and you know, as
as a council, um, I know that our

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efforts go beyond, um, just a a a
proclamation and a recognition. It it is

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definitely our job and it will continue
to be our job to make sure that we are

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putting safety in the forefront and in
the center of all of the work that we

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carry through. Um, [clears throat] and
um, making sure that there are support

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systems in place. And um I I know we
have a member from from the school board

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here with us today and um you know
working in collaboration um with our

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school district is also very very
important to us. Um and making sure that

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we stay connected with the families um
all the time as much as we can. Um so I

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know some of for some of you it's your
first time here. I hope it's not your

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last time here. Um, and um, I I hope
that every single council member on

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here, we're missing one, but could be of
service to you. Um, whenever you have a

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question or whenever you need to be
connected to any resource, um, we are

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here to serve you. Um, and I am very
appreciative. We're all very

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appreciative that you all would show up
with us and be here today. And um we're

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going to go ahead and read this now into
the record. Um but we all wish you all a

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lot of healing, a lot of unity. We wish
that amongst our own community. Um and

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you know again we are here to serve you
all to continue serving the community.

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So I encourage us all and you all to
continue staying connected with us. Um,

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so
whereas every life in Sunnyside has

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value and suicide affects individuals,
families, friends, and neighbors

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throughout our community. And whereas we
remember those whose lives have been

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lost to suicide and stand with the
people who love and miss them. And

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whereas people experiencing emotional
distress deserve to be heard and treated

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with compassion, dignity, and care. And
whereas honest conversations about

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mental health, meaningful connections,
and access to support can help people

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through difficult moments. And whereas
the 98 988 suicide and crisis lifeline

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is available to anyone seeking support
by calling or texting 988 or chatting at

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988 lifeline.org
with services available in English and

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Spanish.
Now therefore, I, Vicky Ferrosto, mayor

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of the city of Sunnyside, Washington, by
virtue of the authority vested in the

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laws of the state of Washington, and on
behalf of the city council, do hereby

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proclaim September 2026 as suicide
prevention awareness month in the city

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of Sunnyside.
I encourage residents to check in on one

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another, listen without judgment, share
available resources, and help make

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Sunnyside a community where no one must
face a crisis alone.

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In testimony whereof, I have here on to
set my hand and cause the seal of the

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city of Sunnyside to be affixed done at
the city of Sunnyside this 23rd day of

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September in the year 2026.

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Thank you so much for being here. I do
have this up here for for um for for

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someone to take with you. If any of you
would like a copy, please let me know.

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Um Katie works very diligently to make
sure that she gets these out to us and

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we can go ahead and sign for anybody who
needs an extra one for yours to keep. Um

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on behalf of the city with a lot of love
and with the utmost respect um to every

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single one of you. Um we usually invite
folks to come up and and and take a

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picture. I will leave that completely up
to you all if you would like to do that.

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If not, um I would love for this to fall
into the hands of the person who is

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going to take it take this home with
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I don't know. We're just going to get to

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[clears throat]

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Thank you so much again.
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Now, moving on with our agenda, we're
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six. I'm sorry, I thought you were
trying to grab my attention. Public

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comments for active agenda items.
Hector, would you mind passing over the

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signup sheet for the active agenda
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I assume that Elizabeth Garcia, you want
to remove your your name from the list?

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Okay. And then I'll go ahead and remove
yours. We have um then Juan Alvarez on

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our signup sheet. And just to reiterate,
citizens are advised that they must

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limit their remarks to the city council
to 3 minutes. Council may refer items to

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staff to review under research for the
presentation at a future council

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meeting. Uh recorded comments in meeting
signing sheets are public record subject

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to disclosure under RCW42.56
and the names of the speakers are

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» Okay.
>> Good evening. Uh Juan Alvarez. Uh I

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reside here in Sunnyside. Um I was
actually a little bit confused. I was

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going to talk about well six but that's
not part of the agenda item here. Do you

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guys mind if I talk about well six now
instead of well 9?

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Is there any objection?
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So,
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So, um at the last meeting, we talked
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the issues and the grant that was
available for um what was originally

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supposed to be uh well rehabilitation
and that kind of shifted over. Um, I

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just wanted to uh let the council know
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some of the things that are being
brought forward is in the name of

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safety, which I totally a agree with. Um
I urge the city to if they can afford it

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to still continue with this grant,
change the direction of what is going to

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be repaired. Um, one of the items
brought up for this uh the renovation or

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rehabilitation of the facilities was for
safety.

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The most dangerous thing at that well is
the chlorine gas. So, I would like to

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see the city eliminate that hazard from
being around the school and around the

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students around the sporting events. Um,
boring gas at a high concentration is

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toxic. Um

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the fix is to move over to a sodium
hypocchlorite solution, otherwise known

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as hypo. Uh which is a 10 or 15%
solution. Um you have to change

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different pumps. Um
it's purchased here locally through

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Oxark just like the chlorine gases. Um
so it's the same vendor. Um and then if

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there is what with whatever money is
left over then do some of the electrical

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upgrades. Um, so, uh, as well as the
SCADA, because if you can't monitor the

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well in real time, you don't know when
something is failing, especially if no

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one's acknowledging alarms that are
coming on. And I believe they said that

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the SCADA currently isn't working. Um so
um for those that don't know what SCADA

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is, it's the it's the uh supervisory
control and data acquisition part of the

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system which means it tracks uh numbers
data turns them into real time numbers

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and then the SCADA systems
all that. So you know when you can go

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back and you know flows, chlorine
residuals, how long the well was

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running, how many gallons, and over time
you can track that and you can start

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determining where your failure of a well
started. Um and thank you very much.

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» Thank you for your public comments.

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Okay, moving into number seven, consent
agenda.

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A, minutes of the September 9, 2026
meeting. B, payroll vouchers. Approved

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payroll vouchers numbers1200049
through1200059

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and wire transfers as listed for
$698,9846

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for the period ending August 31st, 2026.
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Claim vouchers. Approve claim voucher
numbers 114795,

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1114912
through 115001

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and wire transfers as listed for
$634,35812

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for the period September 10th 2026
through September 18th, 2026.

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Council, any initial comments or pulling
of any of these items for further

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discussion? Go ahead, councelor Goodwin.
>> I do have a question. Um, given that I

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wasn't able to attend the the previous
finance uh subcommittee meetings, I

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allowed u Mr. Councelor Dolan to attend
for me. Um, there's an item here 11711.

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It has to do with the commen condemning
of hotel fencing. I believe uh councelor

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Chavez asked that question as to who was
picking up that tab. Are we eventually

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going to have uh the owner pay for that?
>> Correct. We actually were working with

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uh Landmark who's out there uh helping
us getting this uh secured. Uh we did uh

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Corey did give him a invoice to notify
the bank and we will follow up once uh

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everything's done and we get the the
whole invoice uh that we will be sending

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it to them.
>> Okay. Thank you.

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» Can you keep council in the loop in
regards to how all that's coming out?

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Yes, that's part of my uh uh update.
Okay.

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» Yeah. So, I I will be speaking on part
about that.

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» Don't see any additional comments. Um
could I entertain a motion?

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Um, Madame Mayor, I [clears throat] will
um make a a motion to approve the

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minutes, payroll vouchers, and claim
vouchers presented on the consent

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agenda.
>> I'll second.

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» Motion by Deputy Mayor Hart, seconded by
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discussion?
Hearing none. Oh,

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» there you go. Go ahead, Councelor Dolan.
Um, as uh

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council galvan said, I attended a
meeting for him and I have some issues

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with process uh thanks to
the finance director there. I was a lot

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of my questions have already been
answered, but I think the process we

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need to look at that possibly at a
workshop or possibly at the next

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meeting. Um,
I just have a real problem with the way

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we're doing this. I had a problem when
we started it and now I'd done some

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research on my own and found out that
starting around 2011

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all of these things started to come
about and before that we never had any

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um committees like this and I feel that
we as a council need to look at every

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dime that goes through this building
together as seven and uh adopt the uh

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the responsibility of helping our
finance director and her helpers get

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this back on track. We've been told
probably six or seven times now that

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it's time to tighten the belt and get
out of this mess we've been put in. And

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if we stick with some of the same things
that we've had for the last 10 years or

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well since 2011,
then several of these people I spoke

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with feel that you're not going to get
out. You're just going to be treading

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water for a long time to come. So seeing
hearing that and seeing that I I think

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we it's time for us to use a workshop or
whatever to actually look into this and

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say is this working
because I feel that uh all of us need to

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be uh responsible for the finance
committee meeting and I don't know how

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you work that to where all seven of us
can be there without an open public

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meeting but I think it needs to happen.
>> [clears throat]

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» um that's the way it used to be and as
of 2011 it's changed dramatically

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and uh

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that's that's pretty much it in a
nutshell for tonight.

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So, just to clarify, councelor Dolan,
you're saying that we should um

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eradicate the the the finance
subcommittee

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» as it exists and it's a it's a u
what's it called? Um it has to be done

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by the city manager. I think he knows
the process real well to change make

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those changes. And we I think we need to
discuss how to do this so that all seven

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of us are involved with reviewing the
money coming in, the money going out,

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and who's getting paid and why. Uh there
was a lot of things I didn't understand.

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Thanks to Jessica, we a lot of that was
taken care of. Um I just had a real

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problem with it. I I still have a bit of
a problem with it. I think we need to

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look at other ways of doing this. this
was done by other people and other

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councils and other mayors and other city
managers and uh instead of being on the

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receiving end of how to do something, I
think we need to make our own and and uh

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basically make it work so that we're all
covering

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we're all ex accepting the
responsibility of being on this council

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instead of just that one's ready to go.
Thank you. I I uh

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Thank you, councelor Dolan. Does anybody
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» Go ahead, Councelor Chavis. No, I
>> I I have to agree with councelor Dolan.

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I sat in um I think once or twice into
the the the meetings. Um I sat in for

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councelor Sissathi and I even had a lot
of questions and you know um I don't get

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a full clarification because I don't sit
on them the whole time but I I have to

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agree. So my question is to our city
manager. Is that even possible?

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Well, typically you have a committee
that reviews things before they go to

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council and every city has a finance
committee and it's usually the most

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challenging of all the committees
because it has enormous responsibilities

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and um because uh the finance of the
city is complicated and takes time to

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learn it. uh it's usually uh maybe a
year or two before existing comm uh

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council members who are on there kind of
understand what's going on. So, somebody

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new coming in, it's like, oh my
goodness, what what's it just takes a

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lot of time and in other cities they
won't they won't transition new council

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members beyond uh one because it takes
two who are knows what's going on to

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help the the new one
be able to kind of come up to speed over

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time and it might as I said it might
take a year to really understand the

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city finances. So uh to get all seven uh
uh on that kind of knowledge level, it

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would be better to have a rotation
and then so that every year or so you

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have a new council member and they come
up to speed and so the other three are

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being trusted as a part of the council
group that's reviewing those things and

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then another person gets to come and
then they become informed and over over

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the council's uh uh term uh everybody's
had a chance to partic participate on

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the council meeting. So, it it's not a
one session and you got it all figured

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out. It takes multiple sessions to
figure it all out.

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» Well, I remember sitting in on it. I I
kind of felt a little guilty cuz I was

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asking for some questions and some
clarifications and, you know, the

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finance committee was able to provide me
that, but you know, I I I I felt that I

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kind of pushed a little bit in regards
to asking for some of those things. I

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appreciate that you guys were able to
give me all of that, but there is

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questions that are sometimes need to be
answered and being at those comm

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committees is is very useful and I think
a lot of us need to be part of that,

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» right? We have, you know, a staff that
are able to access answers to those

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questions that we can't [clears throat]
bring to a council meeting here. We just

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don't have the personnel to do that
because they got to go to their files

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and pull out the vouchers and then
answer the question and explain what

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that issue is. It's much easier to do
that at a at the committee level.

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» And so, uh, Jessica, I don't know if you
have any more you want to add to that.

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» I can provide the check register that's
provided to the finance committee. I can

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send it to all the council members and
you guys can review it and then you guys

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are more than welcome to reach out with
any questions, concerns, [clears throat]

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copies of the invoices. um it it doesn't
because of how things work and quorum

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and and all of that. I I suggest that
could be an appropriate

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um solution to to your concerns.
>> Go ahead, councelor Sati.

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» I mean that's that's a that's a good
idea also, but I think like Pat was

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saying also, you know, it takes time to
start understanding. I literally

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probably last month started feeling a
little bit more of a flow like okay this

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is something that's there regularly and
stuff. So like when Ramon's filled in

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once or twice or Dolan's filled in you
know two to three times because you're

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you miss that flow of every week
reviewing you know then you do have you

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know a lot of questions and stuff and
and I understand some of the questions

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that he did ask with like the process
and so forth. So that can probably be

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revisited and so forth. But I mean it
would be nice that we would all get

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together so that we can all try to kind
of understand and because yeah if if if

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Tom doesn't show up for or fill in for 2
3 months then at the next time you look

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at it you're a little lost again. It's
almost like starting over. Um but yeah

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they do come in with stacks about this
high of you know invoices and so forth.

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So, and they're available for any one
that needs to be pulled and and are

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pretty good to I mean, I guess have the
answers on what it's for and what what

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you know. So, I mean, I I think even if
you did send that over when you're not

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used to sitting there and looking at it
every week, you're going to have

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probably a thousand1 questions and that
can probably be I know you guys are

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super busy and I appreciate the work you
do. So, that can open up probably a

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whole new kind of worms, but it's up to
you guys.

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» Councelor Gwin.
>> So, it it has been one of my main

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concerns since we started doing this.
Um, just because I feel that the whole

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seven of us need to actually look at
what we're approving. We just can't,

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like Dolan says, rubber stamp
everything. So, my question, uh, it

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might be a legal question, maybe you
help us with, is can we start recording

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these meetings? Um, and that way if
council members um feel like me, oh, let

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me catch up on what's going on, they
could get jump on those uh recordings,

412
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,040
» Madam Counsel,

413
00:35:46,079 --> 00:35:57,520
» I in my experience, I've not seen
subcommittee meetings um recorded and

414
00:35:55,200 --> 00:36:03,359
the minute you record something like
that then you've you've developed a

415
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:08,960
public record, right? That is subject to
the public records act. And I don't know

416
00:36:05,839 --> 00:36:13,280
if decision-m and what what is going on
in there if that's something that you

417
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:21,760
want to be available in the public
domain. Those uh it it it could chill

418
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:27,680
um candid conversation amongst the folks
that are in that room. Um so I don't

419
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:33,680
know. I I' I'd have to think about that
a little bit more. I think that's a

420
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:40,079
concern. Um I also think the
um trying to expand uh the number of

421
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:47,280
folks there, you're going to run into
issues about a quorum um and then you're

422
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:51,839
talking about doing public notice and um
and I'm not sure you want to go down

423
00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:54,640
that road either. Um but I'm I'm happy
to look at that more [clears throat] in

424
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:59,440
depth. I just it's not something I've
seen before. I think it's something you

425
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:05,560
certainly could do, but there are going
to be consequences

426
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,560
uh from going down that road.

427
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:17,200
» Oh, I I have a maybe question for for
the interm city manager. Um

428
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:18,480
um when we were talking to was it Mike
Bailey?

429
00:37:18,079 --> 00:37:23,359
» Right.
>> Right. So, I remember that Friday we

430
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:30,079
were we were talking about standardizing
meetings um that had to do with budget

431
00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:35,280
and finance and um and like
standardizing them like it fits either

432
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:38,960
quarterly um to come together and look
at our budget. Um it's something that

433
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:43,200
hasn't been done. I don't know. I'm only
throwing this out there as maybe another

434
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:48,800
alternative that we could do if the
finance subcommittee wants to continue

435
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:54,880
or we want to continue.
um or there's no way to break away from

436
00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:59,839
it, which I'm sure if it was if we
didn't have it before 2011,

437
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:05,280
um we might have to revisit the co um
the municipal code. Um but as an

438
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:11,040
alternative
um which I believe is needed regardless

439
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:19,960
if we have this or not is standardizing
um more frequent budget uh me review

440
00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:19,960
meetings with the entire council,

441
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:26,720
» right? I you know that that would
probably relate more specifically to

442
00:38:25,119 --> 00:38:29,839
where we are budget-wise, you know, and
so you have a quarterly report and

443
00:38:28,079 --> 00:38:33,359
update and how our expenses are doing,
how we're tracking in in in categories,

444
00:38:31,839 --> 00:38:37,359
you know, like the police department and
public works and what percentage of

445
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:42,000
progress we're making in revenue
received and all that. I think what Mr.

446
00:38:39,359 --> 00:38:45,839
Dolan is addressing is specific invoices
and having eyes on specific invoices. Is

447
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:50,960
that right, Tom?
>> Correct.

448
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:54,000
So the process for doing that uh is
certainly welcome to anyone and I think

449
00:38:52,720 --> 00:39:00,720
that's what Jessica is saying. If you
have a question we can jump with on it

450
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:04,800
with an answer. Um I'm saying that it it
typically takes a lot of time for people

451
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:08,400
to understand the process
and for every council member to

452
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:12,960
understand it all at the same time is is
a challenge. So one of the methods of

453
00:39:11,119 --> 00:39:17,280
doing that is rotating council members
through that committee so that

454
00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:21,599
eventually everybody's got an eye on it
but not necessarily collectively

455
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:25,040
together because uh my invitation to the
council member has been why don't you

456
00:39:23,359 --> 00:39:29,280
trust your other three council members
to to make a judgment on it because if

457
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:34,400
you need to see it that means you don't
trust their judgment.

458
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:38,960
» Go ahead councelor Dolan. Um, I talked
about a little bit of research earlier

459
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:46,560
and that it's uh talking with a former
city manager told me was the one that

460
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:51,040
came up with uh trust but verify and you
know I I told Jessica that it's not a

461
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:56,320
matter of trust for me. I want to verify
cuz I'm a visual learner and I'm looking

462
00:39:53,520 --> 00:40:03,680
at some of these and I'm you know how do
you justify $11,000 to this?

463
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:09,520
To me, it's like, wait a minute.
I would see a bill come across my desk

464
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:14,240
in Hawaii and it choked me because I I
thought, what where did that come from?

465
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:21,920
And then you find out that that came
from someone making a decision for you

466
00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:28,400
and then not verifying that we needed
that to be done. And so, we end up

467
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:33,920
paying the bill and sorry for it. I
mean, uh, it feels like when you're in

468
00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:40,000
the water and, you know, at this level
right here, if you don't start doing

469
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:44,960
something, that's going to go.
I just think uh, this this the process

470
00:40:43,119 --> 00:40:49,839
that I've been experiencing in the in
the finance committee, I don't think

471
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:55,200
it's enough. I think it needs to be a
lot clearer. and uh

472
00:40:53,680 --> 00:41:01,040
and I don't know if I'm saying that
right, but maybe uh

473
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:06,880
um the process outlining the process of
how it happens and especially

474
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:13,680
looking at those invoices and saying,
"Well,

475
00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:19,200
how do you justify $96,000 for
design and engineering?" For me, that's

476
00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:26,160
a big slap in the face. It's like we
just did a tour of all these welds

477
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:32,240
just the other day and to me if they're
not doing new switch gear, why is it so

478
00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:38,000
much and it's not even started? The work
hasn't even started yet. You've got a

479
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:44,720
little 20 by 20 area to cover and it's
$96,000 to do it. I understand some of

480
00:41:41,359 --> 00:41:49,760
the equipment is expensive and we've
talked about that at length sometimes

481
00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:54,000
because um having the experience of
having to get new motors across the

482
00:41:51,599 --> 00:41:57,599
ocean to me so that I'm not shut down
for too long. It's a it's something like

483
00:41:55,839 --> 00:42:01,599
these guys have to really plan ahead
for.

484
00:41:59,119 --> 00:42:08,880
But at the same time, when you have a
project, how about an itemized

485
00:42:05,359 --> 00:42:12,000
planning and design and engineering? You
know, if you have it itemized and like I

486
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,640
said, I'm a visual learner. So, I look
at that and I say, "Well, yeah, that's

487
00:42:13,359 --> 00:42:19,680
going to cost, that's going to cost, and
your guys are 38 bucks an hour to 60

488
00:42:18,240 --> 00:42:25,920
bucks an hour. Your operators are
higher. All that adds up. But, do we

489
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:28,880
really need this? Do we really need to
go in there? Can't we just plug it in

490
00:42:27,359 --> 00:42:33,599
for another two years and tighten our
belt a little bit? Or do we need to

491
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:37,760
hardwire it because of what it is?" I
agree with Juan 100%.

492
00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:43,920
something needs to be looked at for the
chlorine evacuation,

493
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:48,319
but you know, at what cost?
I mean, have we gotten three bids for

494
00:42:45,839 --> 00:42:54,560
all these projects? Don't you go out and
get three bids? Um, isn't that a state

495
00:42:50,720 --> 00:43:01,440
law somewhere? Or is it just me? I know
that whenever I was dealing with the

496
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:05,520
investors or the the owners, um, and
they would say, "Well, how many bids do

497
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:08,800
you have?" And let me look at those.
So, I'm just curious. I I mean, I'm just

498
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:12,720
rattling the cage a little bit because
it seems like, okay, let's just go do

499
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:17,839
this and let's go do this and let's go
do this. And nobody's looking back and

500
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:23,920
going, oh, this is going to cost $36,000
out of all of your pockets. They're not

501
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:29,040
going to be happy about that. So, that's
just my thinking on the situations.

502
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:32,960
» Those those are all good points. Um, one
second, Councelor Chavis, we have Deputy

503
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:37,839
Mayor with her hand up. I just for the
the the sake of of the consent agenda,

504
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:41,839
I'm sure that we can continue
workshopping an alternative and we can

505
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:46,880
get to something that we can all agree
to. Um, I'm going to have us just kind

506
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:52,319
of wrap this up and then figure out with
Katie and and and Mr. Haley when we can

507
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:56,800
continue this discussion because I do
believe that you all have very valid

508
00:43:53,680 --> 00:44:00,000
points. Um, but go ahead, uh, Deputy
Mayor.

509
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:05,200
» I'd like to call for the motion, please.
>> Okay. Um, is there are you motioning?

510
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,119
» It's already been motioned. I'm calling
for

511
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:12,240
» Has it has it already been motioned? Oh,
yes. Seconded. Okay. So, is there

512
00:44:09,839 --> 00:44:15,920
» It's already been seconded. It's already
been The motion has been made. The

513
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:19,839
comments that have been going on should
be probably called into some other kind

514
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:25,520
of meeting. They were good. But the
motion on the floor is to approve the

515
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:29,280
consent agenda.
>> Okay.

516
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:31,520
Mr. Chavez, is was there anything
pressing? No, we can go ahead and move

517
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,960
forward.
>> Okay. So, go ahead and initiate a roll

518
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,400
call.
>> Excuse me.

519
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:42,560
» Yes. Go ahead. Councelor Dolan.
>> Discussion after the second is a process

520
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:46,400
also and that needs to take place.
>> Understood.

521
00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:51,440
» Yeah. So, councelor Chavez had his hand
up. He says he can he'll forgo his

522
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:55,520
comment. Is there any other comments
discussion?

523
00:44:53,839 --> 00:44:57,520
Okay.
Go ahead.

524
00:44:56,079 --> 00:45:00,640
» Councelor Dolan.
>> Yes. Councelor Gaban,

525
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:02,480
» yes.
>> Councelor Chavez,

526
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,079
» yes.
>> Councelor Zeti,

527
00:45:03,599 --> 00:45:05,680
» yes.
>> Deputy mayor,

528
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,040
» yes.
>> Mayor,

529
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:12,480
» yes.
>> Motion carries.

530
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:19,920
» Okay,
moving forward with the active agenda.

531
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:25,000
We have do I have the right one with the
right order that we included the motor.

532
00:45:26,319 --> 00:45:35,119
So that's okay. Just making sure.
Okay. A

533
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:40,800
council set date sugarbeat ranch plant
unit development and preliminary plot.

534
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:44,880
» Mr. Mahia.
>> Good evening, council mayor. Thank you.

535
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:50,240
Uh the planning commission had had an
open record public hearing on September

536
00:45:47,119 --> 00:45:57,240
8th, 2006 to consider the proposed plan
unit development and preliminary plat of

537
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:57,240
the Sugar B ranch uh PUD-26-1.

538
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,160
uh PLP-26-2

539
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,599
and SEPA-26-4

540
00:46:05,119 --> 00:46:13,800
and issued a recommendation for approval
subject to conditions in accordance to

541
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,800
the SMC 16.28.120

542
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,400
and 17.52.040.

543
00:46:18,319 --> 00:46:25,280
Uh
upon recipient the recommendation of the

544
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:30,960
planning commission, the council shall
set the date for a closed record hearing

545
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:35,280
where it may adopt or reject the
recommendation of the planning

546
00:46:32,319 --> 00:46:41,640
commission.
>> Okay. Thank you. Any initial questions

547
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,640
from the council?

548
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,880
» Go ahead.
>> We're just setting a date. Nothing

549
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,640
nothing to review, right?
>> No, sir.

550
00:46:47,359 --> 00:46:53,280
» Okay. Okay. With that, I move the city
council set October 14th, 2026 as the

551
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:57,920
date for public hearing to consider the
planning commission's recommendation on

552
00:46:55,680 --> 00:47:01,520
the Sugar B ranch plan unit development
and preliminary plan.

553
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:06,319
» Is there a second?
>> I second. Motion by councelor Galvan,

554
00:47:04,079 --> 00:47:11,200
seconded by councelor Sasati. Is there
further discussion on this item?

555
00:47:09,839 --> 00:47:17,119
» Go ahead, councelor Dolan and then
councelor Chavez.

556
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:25,440
Is this a um is this a situation where
they're allowed without changing the

557
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:31,359
without changing the uh
trying to think

558
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:35,359
» zoning? Okay. So, if it's zoned for
industrial, you're going to put up

559
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:38,960
housing there. Is that the plan?
>> Um I can let Joseph Kagun, who's on

560
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:42,240
Zoom, uh speak.
>> Hello, Joseph. Can you explain that to

561
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:46,240
me?
Yes, that's part of the planned unit

562
00:47:44,079 --> 00:47:51,200
development process. Sorry, Joseph
Calhoun, HLA for the record. The plan

563
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:55,760
unit development process
goes through the public comment period

564
00:47:54,240 --> 00:48:01,839
through planning commission and then to
council. The allowed uses in a PUD zone

565
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:07,920
are
unlimited essentially is the way the

566
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:12,560
code reads. So the the total packet all
the information in the record as

567
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:18,280
considered by the planning commission
will be presented at your public

568
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,280
hearing.

569
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:28,800
» That's where we change the zoning
or recommend that just zoning change.

570
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:35,079
» Yeah. Essentially the the plan unit
development or PUD process is

571
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:35,079
effectively a zone change.

572
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:43,040
That's all I had.
>> Thank you. Uh, councelor Chavis,

573
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:46,559
» you know, I just wanted to there I'm
kind of glad you clarified a little bit

574
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:50,559
more about it cuz we have an audience
that sometimes don't understand these

575
00:48:48,319 --> 00:48:54,160
things and when we use this lingo right
here, a lot of them get lost in what's

576
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:57,520
going on. So, it's important that we
kind of share and we're open uh and be

577
00:48:55,839 --> 00:49:01,040
transparent with where what we have. So,
I'm glad that you were able to bring

578
00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:07,720
that up.
>> Yeah, you're welcome.

579
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,720
Any other comments?

580
00:49:09,359 --> 00:49:15,520
Hearing none and seeing no hands up, go
ahead, Katie.

581
00:49:14,079 --> 00:49:17,040
» Uh, councelor Gavan,
>> yes.

582
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,720
» Council Chavez,
>> yes.

583
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,400
» Councelor Zeti,
>> yes.

584
00:49:19,119 --> 00:49:22,160
» Councelor Dolan,
>> yes.

585
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,440
» Deputy mayor,
>> yes.

586
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:27,319
» Mayor,
>> yes.

587
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,319
» Motion carries.

588
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:36,240
» Thank you, Kitty. Um,
moving on to the next agenda item that

589
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:41,839
was added today.
Um, it's the emergency purchase of a

590
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:47,440
motor for well number nine. So again,
this is Mr. Mahia's item.

591
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:52,079
» Yes. Again, good afternoon, council and
mayor. So

592
00:49:49,839 --> 00:49:56,480
the motor at well 9 has failed and is no
longer oper operational. As a result,

593
00:49:54,480 --> 00:50:01,440
well 9 has been taken offline and is
currently unavailable provide water to

594
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:06,240
the city's water system. Uh well 9 is an
important part of our water system

595
00:50:03,599 --> 00:50:10,720
supply infrastructure uh due to being
our biggest producing water well. Uh

596
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:16,079
keeping the well out of service for an
extended period could reduce the city's

597
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:18,400
available water production and cap cap
capsicity. Sorry, it's a big word for

598
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,680
me.
>> Capacity.

599
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:25,520
» Yeah, capacity. Sorry.
um and place additional demand on the

600
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:29,280
remaining operation wells. Because of
the unexpected motor failure and the

601
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:33,920
need to restore well 9 to service as
quickly as possible, uh public works

602
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:38,400
request authorization to proceed with an
emergency purchase of a replacement of

603
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:43,200
the motor.
>> Okay. Questions? Uh councelor Dolan?

604
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:47,839
Then I'll go to you councelor Chavis. Go
ahead.

605
00:50:45,119 --> 00:50:53,599
So, uh, just for clarification, well
9ine, we we we visited the wells, uh,

606
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,480
um, the one over by the airport.
Correct.

607
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:58,400
» Correct.
>> Just so our, um, our committee knows

608
00:50:56,720 --> 00:51:02,319
which one we're talking about. And I did
see that they were working on it. So,

609
00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:03,920
the result end came where the motor's no
good.

610
00:51:02,559 --> 00:51:08,960
» Yes, sir. We thought it was the lead
line. Um, and it ended up being once we

611
00:51:06,559 --> 00:51:13,599
got it pulled out, they took it down to
their shop and it ended up being the

612
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:16,559
motor. The pump itself is good. It was
just the mortar. It was bad.

613
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:20,680
» And Picotti bros are the ones that are
going to be working on it.

614
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,680
» Correct.

615
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:27,200
» Go ahead, Councelor Dolan.
>> I'd move the city council authorize the

616
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:31,280
interimm city manager to sign a purchase
agreement with the Picotti Brothers

617
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:36,720
Incorporated to replace the motor at
wells number nine for a cost not to

618
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:40,720
exceed $35,000.
>> I'll second.

619
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:45,200
» Motion by councelor Dolan, seconded by
councelor Chavez. Is there further

620
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:48,559
discussion on this item? Go ahead,
councelor Galan

621
00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:52,640
» Hector. Um, based on this invoice here,
ORS estimate

622
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:56,319
based on the amount that you're
requesting, you're requesting the

623
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:59,920
Franklin uh 175HP.
>> Yes, sir. So, the one that we had in

624
00:51:58,079 --> 00:52:05,060
there was ame
um and it only lasted us uh three years.

625
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:09,599
It's about a three-year-old motor, two
[clears throat] and a half. Um, I've had

626
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:15,040
other Franklin motors um that I've
worked with um and they seem to held up

627
00:52:13,119 --> 00:52:18,720
his durability.
>> Like about how many years? Because you

628
00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:23,440
do you do realize that that Franklin
motor is two weeks out?

629
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:27,760
» Correct. And then talking to Joe Mford
who I've been working with Picotti. Um

630
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:33,040
we are going to see if we can expedite
it because it is in Indiana.

631
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:36,800
» Okay. All right.
>> Go ahead. Councelor Dolan,

632
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:40,480
» will you be rewinding the one that's
there or are we looking for a second to

633
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:46,319
back it up next time?
>> Um, I will talk to Mr. Morford and see

634
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:50,880
if we are able to rewind it. If not, um,
we can look and see if we can uh get a

635
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:58,160
second one and start putting money aside
here in the fiscal year 2027 for um,

636
00:52:55,119 --> 00:53:03,440
purposes like this.
>> Why I'm curious why they would think of

637
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:08,079
being wouldn't be able to rewind it. I I
don't know the whole detail out of it.

638
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:12,480
Um soon as I get more information. Um I
will be able to give you a better

639
00:53:09,359 --> 00:53:15,839
update. Um if you would like um we can
stop by tomorrow and we can both call

640
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:19,520
Mr. Morford in the morning and see if he
can give us a detailed of what's what is

641
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,800
wrong with the mortar.
>> That'd be great.

642
00:53:20,319 --> 00:53:24,880
» Okay.
>> I'll see you in the morning.

643
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:31,200
» Yes, sir.
>> Um so I have a question. Um is the

644
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:34,640
35,000 including the installation of the
motor? So, taking the old one out and

645
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,480
putting the new one in. That was
>> Yeah, that's that's just the purchase of

646
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,559
the pump.
>> That's just a purchase.

647
00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:41,680
» Yes.
>> How much more are we looking at for

648
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:47,200
installation?
>> Uh I can get that cost and uh let

649
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:50,160
everybody know. I should be able to get
that tomorrow.

650
00:53:48,319 --> 00:53:53,200
» Garza could do it, couldn't he?
>> I believe he could. Um [laughter] if he

651
00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:55,920
had time
>> on nights and weekends if you want.

652
00:53:55,440 --> 00:54:00,000
» I'll come.
>> No, but I I'll definitely uh get that in

653
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:07,520
the morning once uh Mr. Dolan and I can
talk to Mr. Morford and then uh I can

654
00:54:03,599 --> 00:54:10,520
shoot you shoot the council an email.
>> Okay.

655
00:54:12,319 --> 00:54:15,880
» Any other questions?

656
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:22,319
» Go ahead. Councelor Zati.
>> Just a comment. I think like for next

657
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:26,319
time we should probably have the full
amount so we have an idea of what the

658
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:29,920
full expenditure is going to be.
>> Yes ma'am. I will make sure I do that.

659
00:54:28,240 --> 00:54:34,000
» Thank you. Mhm.
>> Go ahead, council go.

660
00:54:31,119 --> 00:54:40,640
» One more. Um, since well 9 is the the
the well that produces the most for

661
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:44,400
Sunnyside, are we in danger to running
at a critical

662
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:50,079
low level? I guess
>> right now with the wells we have,

663
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:54,760
no. If if we do have another well go
down, yes.

664
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,760
» Okay.

665
00:54:54,800 --> 00:55:02,000
» So, and it it will be coming out of the
water enterprise. Um, so that's that's

666
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:05,599
where we'll be getting the funding from.
>> Lorenzo, what uh what well are we using

667
00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:11,040
instead?
>> We are actually using well six the

668
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:16,400
backup. So well 72 is actually having
some problems. So we were not able to

669
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:19,599
use well 7. Like I had I think I told
some of you on the tour that well 7 was

670
00:55:18,079 --> 00:55:23,680
giving us some problems. We're not able
to get any chlorine injected into the

671
00:55:21,599 --> 00:55:31,280
water distributing
system right now. So, well six came in

672
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:34,079
to rescue us once again. Um, I know the
pricing and everything, it was kind of

673
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:38,319
pretty quick. Picotti Brothers actually
was there the next day. Hector's has a

674
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:42,240
really good relationship with them. All
the other places were telling us we had

675
00:55:39,839 --> 00:55:47,119
to wait a couple weeks. Um, he made a
call, guy was here the next day, got the

676
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:50,880
crew out, I think a day after, and they
actually started pulling the pump that

677
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:55,680
following Monday. So, they're actually
helping us out a lot on this one. I know

678
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:59,040
the pricing. We were trying to get that,
but it's just everything's going to

679
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:02,359
happen so quick. We weren't able to get
that for you.

680
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:11,680
» Okay. So, there's a motion. There's a
second. Is there any further discussion?

681
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:13,520
» Hearing none.
>> Council Chavez,

682
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,680
» yes.
>> Council Deti,

683
00:56:14,720 --> 00:56:17,520
» yes.
>> Councelor Dolan,

684
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,040
» yes.
>> Councelor Govan,

685
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,480
» yes.
>> Deputy mayor,

686
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:24,319
» yes.
>> Mayor,

687
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:29,280
» yes. Motion carries.
>> Thank you so much.

688
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:35,680
» Thank you, Katie. Moving on to item C,
approval of task order number 26163 with

689
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:42,720
HLA Engineering and Land Serveying.
This is again uh your item, Mr. May.

690
00:56:39,359 --> 00:56:50,079
» Yes. Thank you so much. Um I have uh
Mara Mensah from HLA to uh be able to

691
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:55,760
discuss what we need at um for this task
quarter. uh she works with HLA who's our

692
00:56:53,280 --> 00:57:00,240
project engineer. So,
>> right. Thank you, Hector. Good evening,

693
00:56:57,599 --> 00:57:03,920
council mayor. Um so, this is a really
exciting project for the city. Um the

694
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:10,559
city received grant funding in the
amount of $880,000 from the Washington

695
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:14,319
Department uh from WASHDOT, the
Department of Transportation through

696
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:19,359
their pedestrian and bicycle program. Um
and this is for evaluation of Yakma

697
00:57:16,799 --> 00:57:23,680
Valley Highway um between 1st Street and
16th Street. Um so the purpose of the

698
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:26,559
project is to evaluate the entire
corridor to look at the existing

699
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:31,040
conditions and then identify any
potential pedestrian, bicycle,

700
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:35,920
intersection and safety improvements
along this um corridor.

701
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:42,160
Um so this is only for planning and
designing. Um there is no construction

702
00:57:38,559 --> 00:57:46,960
funding currently. Um, but this is for
preparation for future funding. So, HLA

703
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:50,640
will manage the overall project. Um, and
we're going to be leading the

704
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:55,920
engineering efforts. Um, but we will be
working with a team to help us with the

705
00:57:53,040 --> 00:58:00,400
outreach portion and some of the traffic
analysis throughout here. Um, so

706
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:05,280
community community engagement is going
to be a big effort through this project.

707
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:08,880
Um, we're going to include four focus
group meetings. Um, we're going to have

708
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:12,160
three open houses. Um, we're going to
have an online survey and we're going to

709
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:15,520
do direct outreach to all the
businesses, the property owners, and

710
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:19,520
then any other community member that is
along the corridor. Um, we're going to

711
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:23,359
be providing materials in Spanish and
English. Um, and then at the events

712
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:27,440
there will be Spanish interpretation
provided. [clears throat] And then

713
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:33,599
there's going to be a technical
analysis, a traffic analysis throughout

714
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:38,240
here that's going to um help aid and
with the community feedback to develop

715
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:44,079
um and evaluate up to three corridor um
alternatives. Um and so with that, we

716
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:49,680
will present to council and council will
choose a preferred alternative of what

717
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:54,160
this corridor could look like. Um and
then from that um there will be a threeb

718
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:59,359
block segment that will be selected to
do a full design for for this. So for

719
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:04,400
the overall project we will be doing 30%
design plans and estimates just prel

720
00:59:02,319 --> 00:59:08,799
preliminary estimates for the whole
corridor but only three blocks are going

721
00:59:06,559 --> 00:59:14,000
to be full design.
Um and so the task order for you is

722
00:59:11,359 --> 00:59:18,799
before you tonight is for HLA um in the
amount of 879,000.

723
00:59:16,079 --> 00:59:23,359
Um and then we have money allocated for
wash state services as well. And I'm

724
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:28,480
happy to answer any questions.
>> Thank you, Mara. Any um initial

725
00:59:26,079 --> 00:59:31,920
questions for HLA?
Go ahead, councelor Dolan.

726
00:59:29,839 --> 00:59:35,119
» This is just design and engineering.
Again,

727
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:39,280
» um and there's a significant planning
effort to this. So, this is all the

728
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:44,240
public outreach, which is about half of
the analysis. Um and then the traffic

729
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:48,160
analysis for that. Can you give us the
total amount of turkey on this project?

730
00:59:46,559 --> 00:59:52,880
How much it's going to cost?
>> Yes. So, it's the 879,000.

731
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:55,599
» Not just for planning and develop and
design for the total project to be

732
00:59:55,280 --> 01:00:01,680
finished.
>> Oh, I we don't know yet. So, that's part

733
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:05,760
of what this is going to inform because
we don't know what three blocks are

734
01:00:03,359 --> 01:00:08,160
going to be. Sorry, am I not am I not
loud enough?

735
01:00:06,559 --> 01:00:11,040
» No, it's really cold in here, so I'm
just motioning to him to turn up the

736
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:16,319
Sorry. Sorry.
>> So, sorry. No. So, um, so we don't know

737
01:00:14,319 --> 01:00:21,839
what the final project is going to be
and so this is all for that planning to

738
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:25,280
see because this could be so a big part
of this is trying to include the

739
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:30,799
complete streets policy trying to make
this corridor more safe. Um, a lot of

740
01:00:28,079 --> 01:00:34,559
the corridor is just lacks control
access so anyone can go in and out of

741
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:38,079
the properties and so part of this is
going to be looking at adding curb and

742
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:44,160
gutter um adding [clears throat]
specific driveways throughout there. Um,

743
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:47,359
and then so we don't have the three
blocks that are going to be designed and

744
01:00:46,079 --> 01:00:52,720
so I couldn't tell you right now what
the total project because we don't we

745
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:59,119
don't quite know the exact project.
>> Okay. Go ahead, Councelor Chavez.

746
01:00:54,720 --> 01:01:03,200
» So I'm I'm just I'm hesitant on signing
up for 879,000 and not having the full

747
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:07,680
amount of what we're going to end up
paying. That's that's where where where

748
01:01:05,359 --> 01:01:11,280
I'm at right now. And I can see that um
councelor Dolan is also looking at the

749
01:01:09,359 --> 01:01:15,040
same thing. I think we really need to
look at what it's going to cost, what

750
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:18,880
the city's going to be looking for um
because I don't I I don't feel

751
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:22,799
comfortable doing $8879,000 and not
knowing what it's going to cost in total

752
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:27,599
» for sure. So this is a 100% grant. There
is no city match associated to this. So

753
01:01:26,079 --> 01:01:31,760
a little bit of background on this, too.
So this money was actually awarded back

754
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:36,880
in 2024.
Um and so the city was actually at risk

755
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:41,440
of losing this funding. Um that was the
original timeline to actually have this

756
01:01:38,319 --> 01:01:46,000
done around this time this year. Um but
we worked with Wash with the city to

757
01:01:43,599 --> 01:01:52,240
come up with a new schedule and wash
that allowed the city to continue with

758
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:57,599
this funding. So um right now so this is
all this is all grant right now. Um and

759
01:01:55,760 --> 01:02:01,680
then for future funding that's part of
this process too like we're going to

760
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:06,960
look out for potential funding sources
for what could fund this for

761
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:10,880
construction. Um,
>> so I want to add to my question here.

762
01:02:09,119 --> 01:02:18,000
» So if we're going to go ahead and put I
know that this is a grant for 879,000.

763
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:21,359
» So does that also connect us to being
able to follow through with the

764
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:28,079
construction of it now?
>> Yes. So this is essentially setting us

765
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:30,799
up for construction funding
>> without us knowing what the total

766
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:34,720
amount's going to be.
>> Well, we're we're sorry. As part of this

767
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:39,599
project, we are developing the cost
estimate and we're developing the

768
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:45,119
project. And so you will have a full
plan specifications and estimate for a

769
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:49,599
proposed project. And then from there,
it'll be it's essentially what we call

770
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:53,280
like a shovel ready project. It's going
to be fully designed. It's going to be

771
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:59,880
three blocks that are fully designed and
ready to pursue funding

772
01:02:55,839 --> 01:02:59,880
if funding becomes available.

773
01:02:59,920 --> 01:03:06,799
So there's no commitment of on the
commitment after [clears throat] you've

774
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:10,400
you know you're there. So now let's go
pursue funding and what are the options

775
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:15,440
for that. So there's no commitment on
the city's part once they finish this

776
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:20,160
but they do have something in place
that'll tell some funding agency exactly

777
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:24,240
what we want done. Right now we're
speculating what needs to be done. We're

778
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:30,079
kind of researching, thinking about it,
asking questions, public forums, staker,

779
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:33,760
stakeholder input, get all that done.
And then and then from that, they'll

780
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:39,200
have a 30% design, which is where you
you are when you know pretty close to

781
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:42,240
what it's going to cost. And um and then
we can decide where where to go from

782
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:47,039
there. And a lot of the applications
that we do try to go out for grants,

783
01:03:45,119 --> 01:03:54,480
they like to know how much applica how
much of the uh design is done um prior

784
01:03:51,280 --> 01:04:00,640
to them actually looking at us and
allowing us to apply for the grant. Uh

785
01:03:57,599 --> 01:04:08,240
so that's that's a lot of it also that
is one of the big questions that get

786
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:11,839
asked by uh wash uh YB COG um Fed the
other state money that we look at. You

787
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:16,640
know they want to make sure that we have
a plan and we're not just going to sit

788
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:22,400
on this money before uh and then try to
have a get everything um planned out and

789
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:27,520
hurry up and basically shoot from the
hip.

790
01:04:24,559 --> 01:04:34,640
» Go ahead Deputy Mayor. Um so actually we
have the money so all we're asking for

791
01:04:31,599 --> 01:04:40,640
is the uh city manager to execute the
task uh number so that we can go forward

792
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:46,319
with the design and development services
most of which you've already described

793
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:52,480
as quite a bit of community outreach. We
have the money. The money is 100% we

794
01:04:50,079 --> 01:04:58,799
have the money is none of this is coming
out of our pocket. It might be at a

795
01:04:55,359 --> 01:05:03,839
further at a further opportunity, but it
gives us, as Hector has suggested, a

796
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:09,119
picture of what we want to do. So, we
could be ready to just see that money

797
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:12,240
and go. Is that not close?
>> Exactly.

798
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:16,559
» So, it's actually a good deal. I mean,
we we're not going to be spending any of

799
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:21,520
our own money to get a picture of what
three blocks improvement could look

800
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:25,440
like. Have you picked the three blocks?
>> No. So, that's going to be part of what

801
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:28,480
we're presenting to council. Um, after
the whole public outreach, once we have

802
01:05:27,039 --> 01:05:32,319
feedback from the community of what
they'd like to see through there, this

803
01:05:30,079 --> 01:05:36,000
include a new pathway, how's sidewalk
going to look, the widths for for that?

804
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:39,920
Are we going, you know, there there's so
much potential through here? Because it

805
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:43,359
is such a wide corridor. I believe
there's about 100 ft of rightway. And

806
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:46,720
so, that's part of what we're anal or
looking into as well is what is the

807
01:05:45,119 --> 01:05:50,720
existing rightway? Are there going to be
rightaway needs that do we need to

808
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:53,119
purchase right away for future projects?
Um, so that's all part of that's we're

809
01:05:52,559 --> 01:05:55,520
looking at.
>> Can I have a quick follow?

810
01:05:54,079 --> 01:05:59,920
» Yes. And then we have a couple more.
>> Okay. So, the quick followup to that is

811
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:06,799
because we've been doing a lot with uh
um storm storm water. Will that be

812
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:09,440
included in this design because
obviously we have to deal with runoff,

813
01:06:08,559 --> 01:06:12,240
water runoff.
>> Correct.

814
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:15,520
» So, um that'll be part of that design.
Thank you.

815
01:06:13,599 --> 01:06:21,200
» Go ahead, council.
So just for the record, the corridor

816
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:25,599
that you're speaking of is Highway 12
from First Street to 16th Street.

817
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:27,839
Correct.
>> Sorry. Is Yakama Valley Highway highway

818
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:30,720
12?
>> Yes. No. And I'm sorry.

819
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:35,760
» I apologize. I don't know the
>> And actually, council, we we do have a

820
01:06:33,839 --> 01:06:41,119
an estimate, right? Because we voted on
the six-year transportation uh

821
01:06:37,599 --> 01:06:47,599
improvement plan. And in their total
funds, it's and granted it's estimates

822
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:54,480
they have it listed as $16 million.
Uh federal funds $9.6 million. State

823
01:06:51,119 --> 01:07:02,079
funds 4.8 million. Local funds meaning
us we need to come up with $1.9 million

824
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:05,680
for this project. Um
the only thing I liked about this

825
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:10,079
project is that it was in the in the
transportation um improvement plan,

826
01:07:07,839 --> 01:07:13,119
right? But,
you know, I I just drove down that

827
01:07:11,599 --> 01:07:18,640
highway right now and and I was looking
at the different possibilities for for

828
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:23,520
for improving um the highway and I don't
know, it just seems

829
01:07:21,599 --> 01:07:27,839
it just seems far off. I mean, I don't
see how it could improve. Maybe

830
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:33,119
sidewalks on on on one side of the
highway. Um but then you're talking

831
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:37,920
about just doing three blocks of it. So,
you know, it does list the $882,000

832
01:07:36,559 --> 01:07:43,359
uh state fund right here with the
pedestrian bike program. [snorts] So,

833
01:07:41,039 --> 01:07:46,799
shouldn't that also cover the whole
corridor, not just the three the three

834
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:51,599
blocks?
>> Um, the way that So, unfortunately, I

835
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:55,359
wasn't part of the initial scoping or
any of the conversations because this

836
01:07:53,200 --> 01:08:01,839
was the final scope for this was
determined with the state of like what

837
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:06,720
we would like to see. Um, so
the three quarters is what or the three

838
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:13,200
blocks it's is what was determined was
reasonable for this amount.

839
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:16,239
» But you have that amount listed um
for the whole project. Not not just

840
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:22,159
three blocks on the on the six-year
plan. And just so council knows there

841
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:27,679
there is going to be some some um cost
to the city. Maybe not money but staff

842
01:08:24,719 --> 01:08:33,040
cost, right? Because on page eight of
the contract items to be furnished and

843
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:37,359
responsibility of the city, you know, it
goes on to list I believe nine different

844
01:08:35,199 --> 01:08:43,440
items um that the city is responsible
for. U one of which one of which um you

845
01:08:41,679 --> 01:08:48,239
know gather up I think it was gather up
the the public comments and engagement

846
01:08:46,159 --> 01:08:53,839
material, review public engagement
material and provide comments within

847
01:08:50,239 --> 01:09:02,000
five working days. But then you go down
to the breakup um and

848
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:07,679
they are wanting
okay page 10 item 5.0 community

849
01:09:05,679 --> 01:09:12,400
engagement work for community engagement
shall be performed for the lumpsum of

850
01:09:10,319 --> 01:09:17,120
$189,000.
I think $189,000

851
01:09:14,799 --> 01:09:21,359
that HLA is going to be building. I
think that's enough money for you guys

852
01:09:18,799 --> 01:09:26,799
to have somebody at these events writing
down comments and and not necessarily

853
01:09:23,359 --> 01:09:31,440
using city staff.
Let's see here. So, there is going to be

854
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:37,279
cost to the city. So, just want to make
it make sure that it's out there. There

855
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:41,839
is cost associated to the city before um
we even get to the next step.

856
01:09:38,799 --> 01:09:46,719
» Thank you, council. um the comments uh
that would be coming back um usually we

857
01:09:44,480 --> 01:09:53,359
get them emailed to myself and then I
would email them to um HLA or they would

858
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:58,159
bring them in and then I would f um scan
them and send them by email to HLA. We

859
01:09:56,560 --> 01:10:03,280
just have we when the comments are
coming back we have a central place so

860
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:08,880
they're not going up to Yak Mall or
going to the city it's just one central

861
01:10:05,199 --> 01:10:13,280
place. So that's that's where uh this I
believe staff would come into play.

862
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:19,120
» Uh councelor Dolan,
>> can you tell me how long a block is?

863
01:10:17,440 --> 01:10:22,880
» I cannot off the top of my head like
through this specific corridor. I

864
01:10:21,199 --> 01:10:29,199
» this project
>> um so I believe the project is just over

865
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:30,640
a mile on on this specific one. I
>> total project.

866
01:10:30,239 --> 01:10:34,000
» Yes.
>> But you keep saying three blocks that

867
01:10:32,480 --> 01:10:39,679
says a 30%
>> for the entire corridor.

868
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:44,800
We're doing 30% plans and cost estimate
for the entire project limits. And then

869
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:49,080
there's going to be three blocks that
we're doing a full design for.

870
01:10:55,040 --> 01:11:02,480
» Thank you.
>> So I I I believe when I came on and I

871
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:07,679
had
talked to Mr. bridges um and Stephanie

872
01:11:06,159 --> 01:11:14,320
um
when I was coming on uh they were trying

873
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:18,159
to get this all combined with our um
roundabout.

874
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:24,880
So it'll be starting on First Street and
working our way down to 16th or uh all

875
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:32,159
the way to Edison or yeah I believe
Edison. So um

876
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:37,440
so there is a lot there. Um, like I
said, we've, like, uh, more or less

877
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:44,239
said, this was, this project was
supposed to get started in 23 24. Um, I

878
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:51,840
don't know where it it got dropped. Um
but now I mean obviously you know we we

879
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:59,360
are picking it up and um we did ask wash
out to not take the money away from us

880
01:11:54,320 --> 01:12:05,360
cuz it once we have money taken away it
is very hard to go back and said hey can

881
01:12:02,239 --> 01:12:08,640
we go for another grant or funding
>> um

882
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:12,000
I'll go to councelor
>> I got a quick question so I know where

883
01:12:10,480 --> 01:12:14,560
we also have the other project on the
roundabout

884
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:20,640
Okay. So, are these two projects going
to be doing sign at the same time or are

885
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:23,920
we looking at doing one a different
time?

886
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:28,080
» No, I'll we'll be coordinating
internally because we are designing the

887
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:32,000
roundabout and so looking at what the
tie-in's going to be like. So, just to

888
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:35,840
continue. So, like with the roundabout
where the sidewalk is going, where is

889
01:12:34,159 --> 01:12:40,480
future sidewalk for the rest of the
corridor going to go? So like that kind

890
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:47,040
of planning level planning level plans
we're going to develop.

891
01:12:43,440 --> 01:12:51,760
» Um council we do do we do have the the
the option of tableabling this if you

892
01:12:49,199 --> 01:12:56,000
all need more information from from HLA.
I was going to refer to uh Mr. Haley to

893
01:12:54,400 --> 01:13:01,199
see if you had any other input around
the project um being in conversation

894
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:08,159
with HLA and then I'll go to you and we
can figure this out.

895
01:13:04,480 --> 01:13:13,679
Uh Marlo, on the section that uh uh
George is referring to regarding the fee

896
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:18,320
for services and the amounts to be paid
by the city,

897
01:13:15,679 --> 01:13:20,640
is that us being reimbursed by this
grant as well?

898
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:24,800
» Yes. So
>> So we're not actually paying this. We're

899
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:30,719
we're getting money back. This is a part
of the grant.

900
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:35,520
We don't have any city expenditure
that isn't covered under

901
01:13:33,441 --> 01:13:41,280
[clears throat] this task order. So like
you mentioned like staff time that's not

902
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:47,440
included in here. This is um the task
order is for HLA and then all the

903
01:13:44,480 --> 01:13:51,719
subconsultant work and other services um
that are going to be part of this.

904
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:58,480
» Right. So, you know, as we go down, uh,
project management, funding

905
01:13:56,719 --> 01:14:03,040
administration, environmental culture
review, corridor planning, analysis,

906
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:07,199
community engagement, design
engineering, and there's fees associated

907
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:12,320
with all those
that are a part of the city's payment to

908
01:14:10,719 --> 01:14:16,080
HLA.
We are being reimbursed by this grant

909
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:20,080
for those costs.
>> Yes.

910
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:24,719
» Did you understand that everybody?
>> Can you repeat that again? Because my

911
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:31,679
question was because going off what
Galvan, George Galvan um said about the

912
01:14:28,719 --> 01:14:36,159
um staff time and stuff and then you
came back Hector with it's just emails.

913
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:41,760
So my question was so just if it's just
emails then we're not being charged the

914
01:14:38,159 --> 01:14:43,920
189 or so that's why Pat if you can kind
of

915
01:14:42,480 --> 01:14:47,520
» well I'm asking the question because
there's fee for services if you go

916
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:50,960
through this agreement and it says here
for the services furnished by HLA as

917
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:57,600
described in the task for the city
agrees to pay HLA the fees set forth

918
01:14:53,679 --> 01:15:01,280
herein. So those are listed 1 2 3 4 5
and each of those have a dollar amount

919
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:07,679
associated with that. And my question
back to Mara is yes, we'll pay HLA for

920
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:11,600
these services that you'll do and then
we ask the grant to pay us back for what

921
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:17,280
we paid you.
>> Correct. Everything is reimbursed.

922
01:15:14,719 --> 01:15:22,640
» So that's not an expense to the city in
the in the true fashion. And there's

923
01:15:20,239 --> 01:15:25,679
nothing hidden here that says, "Oh, by
the way, under the table, there's some

924
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:31,280
extra money that you're going to owe
us." It's all all all grant.

925
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:36,880
» I I do want to add to that a grant like
this is it is uncommon for it to not

926
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:40,320
have any match
as you seen like a lot of the projects

927
01:15:38,159 --> 01:15:47,600
that I've come to have a city associated
match to it. Um, and so this is this is

928
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:54,560
a neat opportunity for the city
to have everything paid for.

929
01:15:51,679 --> 01:16:00,400
» Okay. Um, I'll go to councelor Dolan.
>> I uh

930
01:15:56,560 --> 01:16:05,600
you said curbs, storm drains, all that
plumbing, asphalt getting torn up, and

931
01:16:03,199 --> 01:16:10,719
businesses being cut off like what
happened on Sixth Street. That's what

932
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:16,159
I'm picturing in my head right now. And
I don't know that we've got enough

933
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:19,600
information
because we keep going back to different

934
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:23,120
things. I mean, bouncing around here.
Well, this is 100%. But then those

935
01:16:21,778 --> 01:16:27,760
[clears throat] costs aren't included.
You you stated several items that well,

936
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:35,120
those those things won't be included in
this. That'll be extra that we pay. What

937
01:16:32,159 --> 01:16:39,199
he brought up right here was the costs
that are going to be incurred later. I

938
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:44,159
mean, once we get into this, it's like,
well, we could table it then

939
01:16:42,159 --> 01:16:48,159
and decide whether we want to use all
this. What's the what's the time frame

940
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:51,840
on this grant?
Friday.

941
01:16:49,943 --> 01:16:57,600
[laughter]
Um, so right now we have proposed a

942
01:16:55,040 --> 01:17:04,000
schedule to wash that we're going to do
it within the next bianium. So the 2027

943
01:17:02,159 --> 01:17:10,320
or part of it will be part of this
bianium um which was the 25 to 27 and

944
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:15,360
then the rest of it through 27 and 29.
>> Um and so right now we're anticipating

945
01:17:12,480 --> 01:17:19,040
six months of public outreach and then
about 10 months of the design after

946
01:17:18,480 --> 01:17:22,480
that.
>> Mhm.

947
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:29,280
» So
we're looking at 6 months from now for

948
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:34,640
acceptance of this.
six months from now for council to

949
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:38,000
decide um what this corridor should look
like.

950
01:17:36,239 --> 01:17:44,400
» At this time, I'd like to motion that we
table this until we have a bigger,

951
01:17:40,239 --> 01:17:47,679
brighter, clearer presentation from HLA.
>> I second.

952
01:17:45,679 --> 01:17:52,400
» Okay, we got a motion on the table by
councelor Dolan, seconded by councelor

953
01:17:50,159 --> 01:17:56,600
Chavez. Is there any further discussion
on this item for tableabling?

954
01:17:57,440 --> 01:18:00,239
Hearing none.

955
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:05,840
Uh, councelor Zeti,
>> yes.

956
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:07,679
» Councelor Dolan,
>> yes.

957
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:09,760
» Councelor Gavan,
>> yes.

958
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:12,159
» Councelor Chavez,
>> yes.

959
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:14,080
» Deputy mayor,
>> no.

960
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:16,320
» Mayor,
>> yes.

961
01:18:14,719 --> 01:18:21,640
» Motion carries.
>> All right. Thank you, council.

962
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:21,640
» Thank you.

963
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:34,880
Okay. So, moving on to item D, ordinance
amending chapter 9.4. 40 entitled public

964
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:39,199
camping. Uh Rob Loose. We have our
attorney with us here today.

965
01:18:37,440 --> 01:18:44,000
» Good evening, Madame Mayor. Uh members
of the city council. Um for the record,

966
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:49,600
my name is Robert Loose. I'm the city
attorney, as you know. Um it's my

967
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:56,080
absolute pleasure to be with you again
tonight um to present on an extremely

968
01:18:53,199 --> 01:19:01,440
important um ordinance.
Um it's my opport uh my pleasure to be

969
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:05,679
here with Hector and the chief as we'll
probably have a a little bit of a joint

970
01:19:03,440 --> 01:19:10,640
presentation um if there are some
questions. This ordinance updates and

971
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:16,159
clarifies the city's camping code
pursuant to the recent uh US Supreme

972
01:19:13,440 --> 01:19:20,400
Court decision in City of Grants Pass
versus Johnson. That was a 2024

973
01:19:18,719 --> 01:19:24,320
decision.
As you know, Grant's pass clarified that

974
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:29,600
the enforcement of ordinances that
criminalize public camping do not

975
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:34,159
violate the eth amendment constitutional
protection against cruel and unusual

976
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:38,719
punishment, overruling the Ninth
Circuit's decision in Martin versus City

977
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:43,920
of Boisey, which I handled part of that
for uh four years.

978
01:19:41,679 --> 01:19:49,679
The recommended red lines and deletions
follow similar changes adopted by

979
01:19:46,239 --> 01:19:54,719
Richland, Burian, Spokane, and most
other municipalities in the state of

980
01:19:51,760 --> 01:20:00,080
Washington. Richland's ordinance was the
template for what for what Sunnyside

981
01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:04,239
originally enacted. My point being the
city is not leading the pack or an

982
01:20:02,719 --> 01:20:08,239
outlier when it comes to these
recommendations based upon codes that

983
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:12,880
have been enacted by other
municipalities in Washington state.

984
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:20,640
to explain the ordinance, which can be
found at pages 34 to 40 of your packet.

985
01:20:17,199 --> 01:20:25,040
We start with 9.40.20
definitions. And we're recommending

986
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:28,880
changes to several definitions to better
clarify the distinction between merely

987
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:34,719
sleeping
and camping or storing personal property

988
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:39,760
on public property. And we added a new
term public property to streamline the

989
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:44,239
code. The definition of unlawful camping
was clarified and simplified.

990
01:20:43,125 --> 01:20:49,840
[snorts]
9.4.30

991
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:55,199
and 40 make it clear that we're
addressing unlawful camping and unlawful

992
01:20:52,719 --> 01:21:00,159
storage of personal property on public
property.

993
01:20:57,120 --> 01:21:04,480
050 removal of unlawful encamp
encampments or unlawful storage of

994
01:21:02,480 --> 01:21:11,280
property establishes [clears throat] two
tracks. one for emergency situations and

995
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:16,159
one for non-emergencies.
70 incorporates the new standard under

996
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:20,880
grants pass. There's no requirement that
beds, housing, shelter, or treatment be

997
01:21:18,480 --> 01:21:25,760
available, offered, or sought before
enforcement of this chapter.

998
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:30,080
Lastly,
9.40.100 40.100

999
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:37,760
clarifies that we're not creating an
affirmative public duty and the city is

1000
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:44,000
not assuming any li liability for
removing encampments or personal

1001
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:48,800
property on public property. The
recommended action for this evening is

1002
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:52,880
to adopt the resol the ordinance. Um
that concludes my presentation for this

1003
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:58,880
evening. I don't know if Hector or the
chief may have something to add.

1004
01:21:56,080 --> 01:22:03,760
But I would stand for questions.
>> Thank you, Mr. Loose. Um, Chief, do you

1005
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:07,280
have anything to add?
>> This doesn't prevent somebody from

1006
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:12,080
camping in their vehicle. Um, they can
camp in their vehicle for up to 72

1007
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:15,520
hours. What this does prevent is them
taking over eight parking spots with

1008
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:18,719
shopping carts full of stuff, and that's
what we're getting the police calls on

1009
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:21,360
regularly. So, if they keep their stuff
contained in their vehicle, they're able

1010
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:24,400
to sleep in their vehicle for up to 72
hours. At that point, they need to move

1011
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:29,040
to another location, but they're able to
sleep in their vehicle at that new

1012
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:31,520
location. It's the um taking over of
parking lots that we're getting the

1013
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:35,600
complaints on, and that's what this
addressed.

1014
01:22:34,480 --> 01:22:41,920
» Go ahead, council.
>> I have a question. So, when you say

1015
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:46,239
camping, I I picture the park. Okay. I
picture our city our city park right

1016
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:53,199
here downtown. Um, the reason I say that
is because we have an event that happens

1017
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:56,560
every year for our swim team that they
actually camp out there. That's why I

1018
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:59,440
want to make sure that we're clear on
this and how that's going to be

1019
01:22:58,239 --> 01:23:04,159
addressed.
>> So, the or Madame Mayor um, and

1020
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:07,920
counselor, the ordinance provides that
there are exceptions to this where

1021
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:13,120
there's permission that's been granted
by the city. And so, I I think that

1022
01:23:10,239 --> 01:23:18,960
would fall under that piece. And uh
that's why we have the swim team get us

1023
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:23,520
uh an event uh permit uh and that allows
them to be able to camp out at those uh

1024
01:23:22,639 --> 01:23:27,679
at those parks.
>> Yeah. I just wanted to make that clear

1025
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:33,840
cuz Yeah.
>> Go ahead, Councelor Dol. 72 hours. Is

1026
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:40,159
that um the time they can be there with
their vehicle or and right now is it set

1027
01:23:36,480 --> 01:23:45,920
up for 24 hours notice once it's posted
by law enforce um code enforcement or

1028
01:23:43,199 --> 01:23:50,639
law enforcement? I I didn't quite
understand the situation. and it just

1029
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:55,440
took place and and they came back and
said, "Well, state law says

1030
01:23:53,600 --> 01:24:02,159
you have to give them notice and post it
and then you have 24 hours after that

1031
01:23:59,920 --> 01:24:07,840
before you pick up their vehicle and
drive it away." Madam, madame mayor and

1032
01:24:04,480 --> 01:24:14,719
counselor. So, the way we we set this up
is that if if there is an emergency

1033
01:24:11,679 --> 01:24:20,719
emergent type of situation where the
public safety's at issue because uh

1034
01:24:18,239 --> 01:24:27,520
streets being blocked or uh the
sidewalks being blocked, then that piece

1035
01:24:24,639 --> 01:24:33,440
of the code allows for immediate
removal. M

1036
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:38,239
» if it's simply a situation like the the
chief

1037
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:41,760
uh described where you've got folks
they've they're they're in their RV,

1038
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:47,679
they're in their car and then they've
got stuff, you know, the shopping carts

1039
01:24:44,719 --> 01:24:55,440
and and whatever and there's not an
immediate risk. Uh then that goes

1040
01:24:51,280 --> 01:25:02,480
through a notice process and it's it's
set up to be uh a notice that you need

1041
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:08,400
to remove this this personal property.
You have 48 hours to do so. If you don't

1042
01:25:04,639 --> 01:25:13,199
do it, um then we're going to remove it.
So that's the piece of the camping code.

1043
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:19,920
The next ordinance that you're going to
see addresses the 72-hour

1044
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:26,080
parking piece. So, there's there's two
different things going on tonight. One

1045
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:31,120
in the parking and uh model motor
vehicle code and then this one that

1046
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:36,239
specifically addresses camping and
trying to update your current code to

1047
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:40,400
match with the US Supreme Court
decision.

1048
01:25:37,440 --> 01:25:46,480
» So, two separate two separate things.
Is there is there a piece in there about

1049
01:25:42,719 --> 01:25:52,159
using your camping area, your camping
area as a a urinal and a an outhouse

1050
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:58,000
because they
we just finished cleaning up after

1051
01:25:55,440 --> 01:26:03,040
um
>> it was an open air outouse, but it still

1052
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:06,960
had to be cleaned up. My madame mayor uh
and councelor my recollection is that's

1053
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:11,440
not addressed specifically in this
camping code but that would be addressed

1054
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:15,600
in like the public nuisance and
disorderly conduct that

1055
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:19,840
» I'm sorry uh and we're working on that
one in the nuisance part um we're we're

1056
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:26,560
trying to gather all our information
because as it states as I stated before

1057
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:29,280
our nuisance doesn't give us the bite it
>> emergency status

1058
01:26:27,679 --> 01:26:35,040
» it gives us the bark but it doesn't give
us the bite and we're working on it so

1059
01:26:32,239 --> 01:26:42,880
we can have everything under a nuisance
ordinance um and use that one as our

1060
01:26:39,679 --> 01:26:48,159
premature for code will be our biblical
um and then that way we can make sure

1061
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:54,239
that we are uh following that nuisance
and everything that we refer to will be

1062
01:26:50,560 --> 01:27:00,880
under one nuisance and be much clarified
and and and much user friendly.

1063
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:09,360
Um I I have a question actually. I I
know that uh we there's um um a certain

1064
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:18,719
section in this ordinance um that
says there there will be no requirement

1065
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:26,159
to provide any um resources
uh to those who are going to be who have

1066
01:27:21,440 --> 01:27:34,000
been noticed to move. Um, I think this
is more um along the lines of um

1067
01:27:30,639 --> 01:27:37,679
process, but have we been doing that and
would we continue doing that even though

1068
01:27:36,239 --> 01:27:41,920
it's not a requirement?
>> We do. I think the requirement is when

1069
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:44,960
this federal law passed there was a
requirement that you if there was no

1070
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:49,199
shelter, you had to allow them to camp.
That's what that's addressing. We do

1071
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:52,080
offer them um Camp Hope will come get
somebody if they need a place to stay.

1072
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:54,880
They'll they'll drive down here. The
last two days I've seen the Camp Hope

1073
01:27:53,440 --> 01:27:58,080
car driving around Sunnyside. Actually,
the it's a a little SUV. It's pretty

1074
01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:02,800
clearly marked. The whole thing's
wrapped. So, I know that they're down

1075
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:08,000
here um working on the uh unhoused. And
so, um we do offer that. Um some people

1076
01:28:06,480 --> 01:28:10,480
say, "Hey, my kids go to school here.
I'm trying to find a job down here or

1077
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:14,719
whatever the reason is. I don't want to
leave Sunnyside." And and and there's no

1078
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:19,520
shelter here, unfortunately. So, it's 30
minutes away. Uh the other option, I

1079
01:28:16,719 --> 01:28:24,400
think it's just for adult males. I'm not
100% sure, but is Noah's Arc and Watau

1080
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:27,360
is the other closest option.
>> Okay, go ahead, Councelor Chavis. I'll

1081
01:28:26,239 --> 01:28:31,600
go to councelor Galan.
>> You know, um we're going to be signing

1082
01:28:29,199 --> 01:28:35,040
this. The only thing I ask is I know
that um the individuals that we're

1083
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:40,080
pretty much talking about is a lot of
the homeless, you know. All I ask is

1084
01:28:37,199 --> 01:28:45,280
that we show empathy to them. Um provide
them some resources. So, um you know,

1085
01:28:42,719 --> 01:28:49,199
cuz they're humans, you know, and I I
work with a lot of them and I serve a

1086
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:52,719
lot of them. And so I just ask this from
our police that um we show some empathy

1087
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:57,360
to them.
>> Yeah, it this is something that code

1088
01:28:55,040 --> 01:29:03,760
enforcement handles mo mostly in the
city.

1089
01:28:58,480 --> 01:29:08,480
» So and obviously we have uh offered um
services to them. Um a lot of them have

1090
01:29:06,239 --> 01:29:14,480
denied me personally. I've I've offered
to give them a ride. Um and then

1091
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:18,800
obviously they state can I take my
recreational stuff with me? And

1092
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:25,440
obviously we know camp is a dry dry camp
and we can't and then they said no then

1093
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:30,480
I don't want to go. So um we we we do
show empathy to them and

1094
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:36,639
we do our best to provide them with
information to to let them know that you

1095
01:29:33,199 --> 01:29:42,960
know um whatever we can do to get them
to a safer place and give them the help

1096
01:29:40,159 --> 01:29:48,320
um we're willing to do that but it's got
to be accepted by them also. Um, as the

1097
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:50,719
old saying says, you can lead a horse to
water, but you can't make you can't

1098
01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:51,840
force it to drink.
>> Yeah.

1099
01:29:51,199 --> 01:29:56,320
» So,
>> thank you, Hector. I think what

1100
01:29:53,920 --> 01:30:01,360
councelor Chavez is saying is
nevertheless any everyone should be

1101
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:05,679
treated um with human dignity regardless
if this is on paper and if we've it's

1102
01:30:03,440 --> 01:30:07,920
already been in practice, we continue
doing so.

1103
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:12,159
» Yeah. No, that is our practice.
>> Go ahead, councelor. So,

1104
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:19,760
» section 9.40.050
050 subsection B subsection one.

1105
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:23,520
It says the city shall post at least a
48 hour advanced notice which shall

1106
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:29,760
include the following. It goes on to
list a couple of the of the items. So if

1107
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:35,520
I'm reading this correctly, if somebody
is is violating this, we need to provide

1108
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:40,960
a 48 hour notice. Where where do we post
that? And what prevents that individual

1109
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:44,239
from just going to a park down the road?
We have 10 parks or

1110
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:46,159
» different properties.
>> Oh, the mayor left. But

1111
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:51,280
» that's okay.
>> The the um so the answer to that is that

1112
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:56,639
I mean that can happen with a traffic
ticket where where where it's left on a

1113
01:30:54,400 --> 01:31:01,452
car and then somebody just you know
rolls it up and then pitches it and

1114
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:04,960
doesn't respond to it. Um, but you
[clears throat] would what typically

1115
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:08,960
happens and the chief can correct me if
I'm wrong, is that that that notice is

1116
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:13,280
going to get posted on if it's a
vehicle, it's going to get posted on a

1117
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:17,760
vehicle. If it's a shopping cart, and
it's only a shopping cart on the

1118
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:22,800
shopping cart. Um, and you're going to
retain a copy of it and it's going to

1119
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:26,880
have the location and and if you if you
know who the person is, it'll have the

1120
01:31:24,480 --> 01:31:30,560
person's name and whatnot.
I I'd add that our code enforcement

1121
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:35,120
takes a picture of where they put it and
when they put it there immediately and

1122
01:31:32,719 --> 01:31:38,560
so that's recorded usually on the
windshield if it is a vehicle like

1123
01:31:36,719 --> 01:31:43,360
» correct and we we and we have a
documentation on open gov we we put it

1124
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:49,840
all we post it all on open gov um so we
do follow up um it gets us open gov

1125
01:31:46,159 --> 01:31:55,600
gives us a reminder so um and then u we
have all our records on open gov

1126
01:31:52,480 --> 01:31:59,199
» and we do ask I mean myself I've asked
several times. Can can we get you a

1127
01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:05,520
place?
>> And uh they re refuse to. No, I want to

1128
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:07,679
stay here.
>> Okay.

1129
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:11,840
» So, as a
>> So, was my second question to that was,

1130
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:15,280
you know, what prevents them from going
to a different park? Do we still we

1131
01:32:13,679 --> 01:32:20,320
would need to give them another 48 hour
notice?

1132
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:26,880
» Potent. The answer is potentially yes.
Um, and I mean the this is somewhat

1133
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:33,280
intertwined with that 72-hour piece that
we're going to talk about next. Um, so

1134
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:37,840
they're they're parking in one spot.
They got their sharp shop shopping cart

1135
01:32:35,440 --> 01:32:42,719
out. Um, it's not all contained inside
their vehicle. We post it and then they

1136
01:32:40,639 --> 01:32:49,440
move down the road. Um, and I mean
that's that is certainly a possibility

1137
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:56,639
and there really the Washington law is
such that um there really there really

1138
01:32:53,360 --> 01:33:03,040
aren't good tools for municipalities
because the court the court has said

1139
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:10,960
that that you a vehicle can be your home
um in Washington state. Um and so your

1140
01:33:07,440 --> 01:33:17,199
you're the the your normal tool would be
to impound that vehicle um if if they're

1141
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:22,080
exceeding 72 hours or whatever the
parking rules are. But because of that

1142
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:28,960
ruling by the courts here, that impound
piece isn't an option. Um and so you're

1143
01:33:26,239 --> 01:33:34,320
left with posting and then they move and
then they move and then they move. Um

1144
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:39,360
and it I I'm sorry. I just I don't have
any tools for you because of of the way

1145
01:33:36,239 --> 01:33:45,199
the courts have have set this up.
>> Go, Madam Mayor. Um, Mr. Bruce, the the

1146
01:33:43,199 --> 01:33:51,600
uh question I have is and you know we
have our truck route which runs kind of

1147
01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:58,719
and I've seen people parking on the
truck route just behind Sunnyside uh

1148
01:33:54,400 --> 01:34:03,280
Safeway and parking close to the
building which is you know and then the

1149
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:09,040
other side on the other side there's you
know parking places. Um,

1150
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:12,960
I'm thinking that that is a pretty
dangerous place to be parking on the on

1151
01:34:11,199 --> 01:34:17,520
the truck route. We talk about
semi-truckss, delivery trucks, you

1152
01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:23,199
coming into town and using that that
that truck route. Is there any special

1153
01:34:21,199 --> 01:34:30,560
um
comp, you know, regulation towards that?

1154
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:37,040
So once we get like she said, if it if
it becomes where they're spread out all

1155
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:43,280
over, um that's when we uh give them a
give them a notice and we let them know

1156
01:34:39,440 --> 01:34:50,800
they have 72 hours, 48 hours to either
get cleaned up and vacate and um move to

1157
01:34:46,719 --> 01:34:56,560
the next spot. Um like Mr. Chavez was
saying, we did have that one when we had

1158
01:34:53,360 --> 01:35:02,080
to swim meet. Um, we had somebody in the
park that was staying there for the last

1159
01:34:58,719 --> 01:35:09,120
3 weeks. Um, I stopped, gave her a
notice. Um, was very, you know, working

1160
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:12,960
with her, let her know, hey, we need you
to move along. I let her know that we're

1161
01:35:10,639 --> 01:35:17,760
going to have a swim meet. It wasn't
until I told her, "Hey, we can no longer

1162
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:24,000
leave leave you here. You need to move
or we're going to tow it." Um, she she

1163
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:30,080
did get some help. They moved it over to
Safeway where you are speaking about.

1164
01:35:26,719 --> 01:35:35,120
Um, Safeway called us and we gave her
another notice. Then she moved them

1165
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:40,159
there. She moved to the top of the hill.
Um, we had people calling because stuff

1166
01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:43,679
was getting left out again. We gave her
another notice. She moved over to the

1167
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:48,800
church.
Uh, she was leaving stuff all over the

1168
01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:53,120
place again. Gave her a notice. So,
basically, we we just follow them. Um

1169
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:59,360
there's nothing else that we can do. I
mean, we've offered help uh to the the

1170
01:35:57,199 --> 01:36:03,360
resident of the vehicle. She does not
want it. So,

1171
01:36:02,639 --> 01:36:06,080
» thank you.
>> Thank you.

1172
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:11,199
» I move to motion to adopt an ordinance
amending chapter 9.40 entitled public

1173
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:14,080
camping in the Sunnyside Municipal Code.
>> I'll second.

1174
01:36:12,239 --> 01:36:18,840
» Motion by councelor Chavez, seconded by
councelor Dolan. Is there further

1175
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:18,840
discussion?

1176
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:24,960
No. Hands up. Councelor Dolan,
>> yes.

1177
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:26,719
» Councelor Gavan,
>> yes.

1178
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:28,320
» Councelor Chavez,
>> yes.

1179
01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:30,159
» Mr. Zeti,
>> yes.

1180
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:31,440
» Deputy mayor,
>> yes.

1181
01:36:30,639 --> 01:36:36,800
» Mayor,
>> yes. Motion carries.

1182
01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:44,400
Moving on to E. Ordinance amending
chapters 10.08 entitled parking and

1183
01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:50,480
10.04 entitled model traffic ordinance.
Mr. Loose. Madame Mayor, uh, this

1184
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:54,880
ordinance updates, um, and members of
the council, uh, this ordinance updates

1185
01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:57,520
and clarifies the process and
procedures.

1186
01:36:55,679 --> 01:37:03,360
» Rob, could you turn your mic on?
>> Uh, applicable to parking infractions,

1187
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:08,639
including the issuance, processing,
response, and enforcement of notices of

1188
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:12,560
parking infraction. It also provides for
coordinated enforcement of the city's

1189
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:17,440
parking regulations by the Sunnyside
Police Department and code enforcement.

1190
01:37:15,679 --> 01:37:25,360
To explain the ordinance, which can be
found at pages 42 to 60 of your packet,

1191
01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:32,480
uh, chapter 108.20
establishes a 72-hour parking limit

1192
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:36,960
except where another shorter limit is
established in the city.

1193
01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:41,119
This is a very common regulation across
the United States and I believe it's

1194
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:46,600
certainly a welcome tool for code
enforcement and the Sunnyside Police

1195
01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:46,600
Department.

1196
01:37:47,199 --> 01:37:55,199
060 clarifies and simplifies the
continuous parking regulations.

1197
01:37:53,119 --> 01:38:00,800
130 clarifies that code enforcement
officers have the authority to issue

1198
01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:05,679
notices of parking violations. We also
clarified the process under state law

1199
01:38:03,199 --> 01:38:11,320
and deleted procedures and processes
that were not being used by uh Sunnyside

1200
01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:18,960
deleted the public nuisance provisions
and replaced them with a straightforward

1201
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:24,000
notice and empoundment process that
follows be best practice in state law.

1202
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:30,320
And as Hector mentioned, we're we are
going to be working on the uh public

1203
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:35,199
nuisance ordinance, making that clear
and simplifying that process, and

1204
01:38:32,719 --> 01:38:41,920
that'll be coming before you um sometime
in the future here.

1205
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:46,560
» Uh finally, uh
title 10.04

1206
01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:52,880
was revised to clarify who has authority
to impound with other suggested red

1207
01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:58,320
lines that follow. um state law and best
practice. The recommended action for

1208
01:38:55,119 --> 01:39:03,760
this evening is to adopt this ordinance.
Uh that concludes my presentation. I'

1209
01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:08,159
defer to Hector and the chief if they
would like to add anything, but I'm

1210
01:39:05,119 --> 01:39:13,440
happy to stand for questions.
>> Go ahead, councelor.

1211
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:19,199
» So, couple of questions, I guess. Um why
are we changing this? And I would have

1212
01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:23,679
loved the public works uh subcommittee
take a look at it before I reached

1213
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:27,920
council just because some of the some of
the things I've mentioned here before is

1214
01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:33,760
is you know the semi-trucks that park in
in residential zones, right? I clearly

1215
01:39:31,199 --> 01:39:37,440
know what the dangers are of semi trucks
and and children. We just had an

1216
01:39:35,440 --> 01:39:43,440
incident with, you know, thankfully it
wasn't a bad incident, but just imagine

1217
01:39:40,239 --> 01:39:49,440
a semi-truck uh running over a kid. They
have much more blind spots. They have no

1218
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:53,119
business being parked in city residents.
I tell my guys, I don't want to see you

1219
01:39:51,440 --> 01:39:58,960
go park there. They have places they can
park. So, I I feel that this doesn't go

1220
01:39:57,440 --> 01:40:05,199
far enough, right? And it doesn't
address the dangers that that our kids

1221
01:40:02,480 --> 01:40:09,280
have in the community. So, um, you know,
I once again I would have loved to see

1222
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:13,360
this in the public works subcommittee
and I would have let you guys know then

1223
01:40:11,280 --> 01:40:19,119
they we need to change this and my
apologies. We we were working on this um

1224
01:40:16,239 --> 01:40:24,239
I know you know with the whole uh
Silverstoneone

1225
01:40:20,719 --> 01:40:30,960
uh coming to play uh we were trying to
figure out a way how to make sure that

1226
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:36,560
we were going to be moving forward. Um,
if you would like, uh,

1227
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:41,040
uh, you may table this and I can take it
to the subcommittee. You guys, uh, the

1228
01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:45,760
subcommittee can review it. Um, if
there's any suggestions that, um, want

1229
01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:51,199
to be made, we can definitely look into
it and then we can return to Mr. Loose

1230
01:40:48,159 --> 01:40:54,560
and bring it back to, uh, council
>> for the time.

1231
01:40:52,960 --> 01:40:57,840
» Okay. Uh, go ahead and then I'm going to
refer to Chief. Well, with that, I move

1232
01:40:56,400 --> 01:41:02,880
to table this item, send it to the
public works subcommittee for review.

1233
01:41:00,159 --> 01:41:07,840
» A second.
>> Um, further discussion?

1234
01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:12,560
» I I had a comment for for Chief Chief.
Is there anything else that you would

1235
01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:18,159
want to add for clarification?
>> No, I don't believe so, but

1236
01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:20,719
I'm not sure if some of the what you're
talking about is covered under the truck

1237
01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:25,760
route. So, I'm trying to look real quick
on the municipal code. So,

1238
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:30,880
» Okay. Well, there's been a motion and
there's a second.

1239
01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:36,080
» Um, is there any further discussion?
No. Okay. Hearing none.

1240
01:41:34,880 --> 01:41:38,800
Councelor Gan,
>> yes.

1241
01:41:37,679 --> 01:41:40,800
» Councilor Chavez,
>> yes.

1242
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:42,400
» Councelor Zati,
>> yes.

1243
01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:43,840
» Councelor Dolan,
>> yes.

1244
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:45,760
» Deputy Mayor,
>> yes.

1245
01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:53,280
» Mayor,
>> yes. Motion carries.

1246
01:41:49,679 --> 01:41:57,119
» If you would like, uh, when Mr. Dolan
comes into my office so we make the

1247
01:41:54,639 --> 01:42:01,600
phone call for Mr. Morford. Um, if you
like, you may stop by and we can sit

1248
01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:06,320
down and uh get a date going so we can
uh have the the public works committee

1249
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:09,520
uh get together and we can look to uh
revive or review it.

1250
01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:14,400
» Yeah. Set it up and I'll be there.
>> Yes, sir.

1251
01:42:10,639 --> 01:42:19,440
» Yes. So, I believe it's councelor Dolan,
>> councelor Chavez, and councelor Buscus

1252
01:42:18,159 --> 01:42:23,119
were part of the
>> No, it's public works. Sorry, I'm

1253
01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:29,199
thinking public safety and
>> yes, Mr. Mr. Dolan and Mr. Chavez.

1254
01:42:26,159 --> 01:42:32,159
» So, I will u I'll set up a date and uh
send you guys an invite.

1255
01:42:30,719 --> 01:42:35,760
» I think we're about due anyway, aren't
we, Chief? I

1256
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:41,119
» I I believe so, but the parking in the
It is covered under the um truck route

1257
01:42:38,719 --> 01:42:44,080
section. It says um a vehicle
restriction except as provided in

1258
01:42:42,480 --> 01:42:48,000
subsection B of this section. No person
shall operate or park at any time upon

1259
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:53,280
any of the streets, parts of streets or
rightaway not described in SMC 102040,

1260
01:42:51,119 --> 01:42:56,320
which is the truck route. Uh any vehicle
consisting of a tractor, trailer,

1261
01:42:54,480 --> 01:42:59,920
semi-tractor or truck, logging truck,
pull trailer, or any uh vehicle

1262
01:42:58,719 --> 01:43:02,560
exceeding the weight limitations
described below. So, it's it's in a

1263
01:43:01,440 --> 01:43:06,159
different section.
>> Is it enforceable? And why aren't we

1264
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:09,679
enforcing it? [snorts]
>> We have we have [laughter]

1265
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:13,360
it's been enforced. Yeah, they've
they've been they've been addressing it.

1266
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:18,159
We I I was part of actually part of one
of that. So they have enforced it.

1267
01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:24,800
» This has Jim Stevens.
>> Okay. All right. Well, I never argue

1268
01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:29,520
against uh versus another set of eyes
and another round of revisions and then

1269
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:34,400
we can definitely bring it back to
council when you all feel like it's

1270
01:43:31,199 --> 01:43:38,080
ready for us to deliberate on it again.
>> Yes. Thank you.

1271
01:43:36,480 --> 01:43:44,719
» All right. Thank you. Thank you, Mr.
Liz. Thank you, Chief. Uh, moving on to

1272
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:48,199
nine, public comment for non-active
agenda items.

1273
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:59,880
Okay. Anyone else wishing to sign up to
do public comment, please do so now.

1274
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:06,080
Madame Mayor, we do have somebody online
as well, so we'll have to make sure she

1275
01:44:05,280 --> 01:44:09,239
goes last.
>> Thank you.

1276
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:17,400
Thank you, Hector.

1277
01:44:18,560 --> 01:44:25,600
» Okay. Public comment for non-aggenda
items. Uh, citizens are advised that

1278
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:29,040
they must limit their remarks to the
city council to three minutes. Council

1279
01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:33,440
may refer items to staff to review under
research for presentation at a future

1280
01:44:31,199 --> 01:44:36,159
council meeting. Uh recorded comments
and meeting signing sheets are public

1281
01:44:34,719 --> 01:44:39,920
records subject to disclosure under
RCW42.56

1282
01:44:38,239 --> 01:44:45,960
and the names of speakers are recorded
in the meeting minutes. First on the

1283
01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:45,960
list is Monica Neim.

1284
01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:57,840
Um yes, good evening. Monica Neyer, City
of Sunnyside. Um, I actually just had

1285
01:44:56,560 --> 01:45:01,280
one question, but then when you guys
were talking about the finance

1286
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:07,199
committee, so I'll get to that um,
question. On July 17th, there was the

1287
01:45:04,480 --> 01:45:13,679
meeting for uh, the check to go out for
Davis Consulting for 10,500 and he was

1288
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:18,000
supposed to in response to paying that
even though the contract was cancelled

1289
01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:22,800
and we paid it. Um, he was supposed to
be giving us some documentation.

1290
01:45:20,320 --> 01:45:27,280
um that part was talked about in public,
but the follow-up was talked about in

1291
01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:31,840
public. So, can we get some feedback
since that's what was open to us and

1292
01:45:29,679 --> 01:45:35,679
that was a contract that was closed and
we did pay on it and it also was a

1293
01:45:34,080 --> 01:45:41,679
contract that was not approved before
council and had no resolution attached.

1294
01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:47,360
So, I think uh public comment on that is
is warranted and quite fair. Um, in

1295
01:45:45,199 --> 01:45:53,119
regards to the finance committee, um,
listening to you guys, um, talk, so I

1296
01:45:50,960 --> 01:45:56,960
understand how complicated, actually I
lie. I probably don't even know how

1297
01:45:54,480 --> 01:46:02,159
complicated it can be. Uh, maybe as a
council, um, and I've said this before,

1298
01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:05,760
you know, do your actions develop
healthy habits

1299
01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:09,600
and how does that work? How do you
develop those healthy habits? And I'm

1300
01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:18,000
sorry, I wrote notes and put them in
order. So for me to develop healthy

1301
01:46:12,639 --> 01:46:23,040
habits and and um uh city manager um you
talk about you know they have to trust

1302
01:46:19,679 --> 01:46:28,639
their judgment but honestly for me trust
is a flow. It works one way and it goes

1303
01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:33,520
the other way. That's how trust works.
So if you do have members on your

1304
01:46:30,480 --> 01:46:39,679
council wanting to ask questions then
shouldn't that trust be reciprocated? It

1305
01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:44,400
should be acknowledged to both sides.
um why not trust what their questions

1306
01:46:42,159 --> 01:46:49,360
are if there's a reason especially as
you guys are talking about you know

1307
01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:54,320
everything is um so complicated you know
you guys are facing the issue of trust

1308
01:46:52,239 --> 01:46:59,360
not only amongst yourselves apparently
but with the public and as it sounds

1309
01:46:56,960 --> 01:47:03,360
like there's also un there's this um gap
of understanding with council on what

1310
01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:10,560
you guys are looking at it sounds
challenging um to learn so with that you

1311
01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:15,920
know here's my Not when you take the
responsibilities away from council

1312
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:21,040
members, looking at the budget as a
responsibility and an obligation to each

1313
01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:25,679
one of those council members. When you
take that power away from or that power

1314
01:47:23,119 --> 01:47:31,280
of decision away from them, are you
perhaps allowing um a smaller pool of

1315
01:47:28,880 --> 01:47:36,159
them to make a decision that they all
should be included in and it be done

1316
01:47:33,280 --> 01:47:40,800
privately? So then you have three people
making decisions or giving guidance for

1317
01:47:37,920 --> 01:47:45,679
all. Not only is that not fair to the
council members, there's your trust, but

1318
01:47:43,199 --> 01:47:50,560
is it fair to the public and is there
our trust? You you guys have a big

1319
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:55,760
hurdle, a big m a hill to climb building
trust. So maybe taking those steps now

1320
01:47:53,679 --> 01:48:01,679
and looking at the bigger picture of
okay, this is more work for us, but what

1321
01:47:59,199 --> 01:48:06,400
are your goals? Your goals are to have
healthy habits or to have a better

1322
01:48:03,679 --> 01:48:11,520
understanding. And you know, rotating in
a year at a time. I I understand why

1323
01:48:08,639 --> 01:48:16,560
it's needed. I I'm sure it makes sense.
But maybe letting everyone learn all at

1324
01:48:13,760 --> 01:48:21,679
once is a healthy thing. And perhaps
doing it in front of the public would

1325
01:48:18,639 --> 01:48:26,000
help with that with that issue of trust.
And it would help educate us as well. So

1326
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:30,159
we don't come to speculation and worry
and concern. We're learning while you're

1327
01:48:28,480 --> 01:48:34,880
learning because remember some of us
will be council members. So, let's learn

1328
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:40,880
together. Um, where am I at? Oh, and
that's about it. So, thank you so much.

1329
01:48:37,520 --> 01:48:49,280
» Thank you for your comment.
Moving on to Danna Gutierrez.

1330
01:48:45,440 --> 01:48:57,360
She's online. Hold on. Oh, okay. Hello.
Um, again, I'm so sorry I had to step

1331
01:48:52,480 --> 01:49:02,960
out, but I was just wanting to
um address the council um as my capacity

1332
01:49:01,280 --> 01:49:07,520
as chair of the arts commission. Um,
just a quick little update on what we've

1333
01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:12,639
been up to. So, we were at Sunshine
Days. That was um a success despite the

1334
01:49:10,000 --> 01:49:16,880
rainy weather. Uh, we did have a few
actually quite a bit of people stop by

1335
01:49:14,639 --> 01:49:20,560
our booth throughout the day on Sunday.
Um, and like I mentioned earlier, we

1336
01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:24,639
were at the Walk for Hope. Um, and that
was really wonderful. And I just wanted

1337
01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:30,960
to extend another thank you to all the
council members for um, allowing us to

1338
01:49:28,960 --> 01:49:36,080
have a budget
um, and then allowing us to fundra as

1339
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:39,679
well because thanks to your guys's
support for the arts commission, we have

1340
01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:45,440
been able to provide these these uh,
free arts uh, services to the community

1341
01:49:42,320 --> 01:49:51,600
in um, small but meaningful ways. So, I
just want to give everybody a big shout

1342
01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:57,760
out and a thank you and um and yeah, and
then additionally, I do want to invite

1343
01:49:53,760 --> 01:50:05,199
uh the council members to our next event
October 17. It will be a car meet um

1344
01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:10,639
along with an art exhibit at Trulita's
parking lot and then I believe the

1345
01:50:07,520 --> 01:50:15,040
Edison lot will be having a market as
well with some vendors. Um, I will be

1346
01:50:13,679 --> 01:50:19,679
working with the commission to get more
of the details in line so that we can

1347
01:50:17,199 --> 01:50:22,880
send you guys all of that um that stuff
and we'll be working on a flyer as well

1348
01:50:21,199 --> 01:50:27,760
so that it could be shared out with the
public. But yeah, that's pretty much it.

1349
01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:31,199
I just kind of wanted to give you guys a
quick little update and if you guys ever

1350
01:50:29,440 --> 01:50:35,360
have any questions, I encourage you guys
to attend our arts commission meetings.

1351
01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:40,119
We actually will be having another one
um next Monday, I believe.

1352
01:50:40,159 --> 01:50:49,280
» Where would that be? Uh we will be
meeting over Zoom and Katie uh postes

1353
01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:52,960
those meetings online on the agendas
website.

1354
01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:58,400
» Did you say the time for the October
17th? Did you say times on it?

1355
01:50:55,199 --> 01:51:04,239
» We are still in the midst of planning
it, but I believe um the event we're

1356
01:51:02,239 --> 01:51:13,280
we're workshopping it still. I think
it's around um

1357
01:51:07,600 --> 01:51:16,480
I think we said like 300 p.m. to 7.
>> Thank you, Diana.

1358
01:51:14,639 --> 01:51:21,440
» Appreciate the information on behalf of
the arts commission and thanks to

1359
01:51:18,800 --> 01:51:27,600
everybody uh who is a member of the arts
commission and all the work that you all

1360
01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:35,040
continue to do on behalf of the city. Um
up next on the list

1361
01:51:30,400 --> 01:51:35,040
is Raquel Iso Lopez.

1362
01:51:39,280 --> 01:51:45,440
Good evening
Lopez side resident. I wrote some notes

1363
01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:49,119
down so I wouldn't forget everything I
wanted to say. Um I'm here tonight

1364
01:51:47,280 --> 01:51:52,480
because I want to address something that
I believe deserves more than a reaction

1365
01:51:50,639 --> 01:51:56,719
after someone gets hurt. It deserves
proactive action. On September 11th, the

1366
01:51:54,960 --> 01:51:59,119
mayor sent an email to the city manager
regarding the condition of the

1367
01:51:57,760 --> 01:52:03,440
crosswalks at the Sunny State School
District. The markings are extremely

1368
01:52:01,360 --> 01:52:07,679
faint and the concern was specifically
raised that this created a safety hazard

1369
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:12,000
for our students. That concern was
brought to your attention. You had

1370
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:15,119
noticed and yet almost 10 days later on
Monday morning, a student from our high

1371
01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:18,880
school was struck by a vehicle while
using that crosswalk. Thankfully, we are

1372
01:52:17,599 --> 01:52:22,560
talking about an injured student and not
a tragedy. It could have been a much

1373
01:52:20,400 --> 01:52:27,119
worse tragedy. What I have a real
problem with is the fact that action

1374
01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:31,119
wasn't taken until almost a week later.
I really feel that this incident could

1375
01:52:28,800 --> 01:52:34,159
have been prevented. I was particularly
troubled by the response that these are

1376
01:52:32,560 --> 01:52:37,440
these are high school students and they
should know better. Yes, they are high

1377
01:52:36,239 --> 01:52:41,360
school students. You're right. But they
are teenagers. And if there are

1378
01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:45,119
crosswalk lines there, how are the
students supposed to know not to use

1379
01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:48,960
them? Students walk into these
crosswalks every morning. I know because

1380
01:52:47,119 --> 01:52:53,119
I do drop off and pickup for my daughter
and I see them crossing all the time.

1381
01:52:51,280 --> 01:52:56,159
Our responsibility as adults and
community leaders is to anticipate

1382
01:52:54,639 --> 01:53:00,159
mistakes and create an environment that
helps prevent them from becoming

1383
01:52:57,599 --> 01:53:03,679
injuries. I think Horge Alvan said it
great a little bit ago. Our

1384
01:53:01,280 --> 01:53:07,599
responsibility is safety.
Pat, I want to say this directly to you.

1385
01:53:05,920 --> 01:53:10,880
I know that you that you're the interim
city manager. You told me that in a

1386
01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:15,119
conversation we had out in the lobby
that you're just here manning a seat

1387
01:53:12,639 --> 01:53:19,199
until the next one arrives. But interim
does not mean inactive.

1388
01:53:17,199 --> 01:53:22,400
You are still the city manager. you
still have the responsibility to act

1389
01:53:20,719 --> 01:53:26,400
when a safety concern is brought to your
attention. And as schoolboard president,

1390
01:53:24,560 --> 01:53:31,679
when that safety concern involves our
student at Sunnyside School District, I

1391
01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:35,520
expect swift action, not action after
someone gets hurt. Again, it could have

1392
01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:38,880
been a worse tragedy. I'm not here
tonight to attack anyone personally. I'm

1393
01:53:37,599 --> 01:53:43,199
here because I expect our city
leadership to work proactively with our

1394
01:53:40,880 --> 01:53:46,880
school district to protect our kids. We
should not be working in silos. We

1395
01:53:45,280 --> 01:53:51,040
should not have to wait for a student to
be injured before a clearly identified

1396
01:53:48,880 --> 01:53:54,719
safety concern gets addressed. I'm
asking the council to take a hard look

1397
01:53:52,880 --> 01:53:58,880
at what happened between September 11th,
at the time that that email was sent,

1398
01:53:56,800 --> 01:54:02,719
after the city manager was notified, and
Monday morning when the incident

1399
01:54:00,239 --> 01:54:06,320
occurred, and why action wasn't taken
sooner, and what procedures need to

1400
01:54:04,719 --> 01:54:10,320
change so that when legitimate safety
concerns are brought up to any one of

1401
01:54:07,920 --> 01:54:14,400
us, it's addressed before someone gets
hurt, not afterwards. I also wanted to

1402
01:54:12,639 --> 01:54:19,440
read some of the comments made on that
email that I referenced to reinforce my

1403
01:54:17,199 --> 01:54:24,159
comment regarding the true lack of
urgency. Um, I asked the mayor Frosto

1404
01:54:22,639 --> 01:54:28,320
for a followup on this because on
September 10th she had called me to

1405
01:54:25,840 --> 01:54:31,520
address this also and she told me that
she would be contacting the city manager

1406
01:54:30,239 --> 01:54:35,920
about it and I asked her to please
follow up with me if there was anything

1407
01:54:33,280 --> 01:54:40,480
the school needed to do. Um, I had a
call. Um, so Vicky Thrasto went ahead

1408
01:54:38,639 --> 01:54:44,560
and forwarded these to me and on
September 11th, it looks like she

1409
01:54:41,760 --> 01:54:47,840
emailed you at 5:17 p.m. Um, she talked
about the two crosswalks that they are

1410
01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:52,239
faint in color. She told you exactly
where both were at. Um, and she also

1411
01:54:50,320 --> 01:54:57,520
said, "Pat, can you direct streets crew
to look into it ASAP?" Um, then after

1412
01:54:55,599 --> 01:55:00,320
» we're overtime.
>> Okay, I will send this in an email.

1413
01:54:59,920 --> 01:55:04,080
Thank you.
>> Thank you so much for your comment.

1414
01:55:01,520 --> 01:55:09,840
Sorry, I lost track of time. Usually I'm
looking for the music. um or waiting for

1415
01:55:06,719 --> 01:55:15,360
the music. Um thank you for your comment
and I'm going to follow up on that

1416
01:55:11,840 --> 01:55:18,920
during my council report. Um moving on
to Juan Alvarez.

1417
01:55:25,360 --> 01:55:33,119
Good evening again, Juan Alvarez. Uh
reside here in Sunnyside. Um I was going

1418
01:55:30,480 --> 01:55:37,199
to continue the topic of the wells. Um
this one with well number six. I mean,

1419
01:55:34,960 --> 01:55:40,480
sorry. Well, number nine. And I know it
was already on the agenda, but it was

1420
01:55:38,800 --> 01:55:46,960
just based on some of the the comments
that were made. Um, I find it uh

1421
01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:52,560
concerning that the motor for that well
and on the submersible pump only lasted

1422
01:55:49,280 --> 01:55:58,639
3 years. Um,
when a few city council meetings back,

1423
01:55:56,239 --> 01:56:02,239
um, it was said that the reason the well
was inoperable was due to the SCADA

1424
01:56:00,800 --> 01:56:10,800
system.
Um, so now, um, it was explained that it

1425
01:56:06,719 --> 01:56:14,480
unex unexpectedly stopped working. Um,
wells don't work that way. They just

1426
01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:20,639
don't stop working from one day to the
next. There has to be an underlying

1427
01:56:16,400 --> 01:56:26,080
issue. Um, so I caution
just getting the wellhead and not trying

1428
01:56:22,960 --> 01:56:33,599
to do any type of diagnostics to the
motor control center. um was was the

1429
01:56:30,480 --> 01:56:39,760
well pumped too long too often that the
that the motor overheated um especially

1430
01:56:37,760 --> 01:56:44,639
if it only lasted 3 years. I believe the
sodium hypocchlorite system went down

1431
01:56:42,080 --> 01:56:50,639
about 3 or 4 years ago. So that took
well 11 12 and 13 I believe the wells at

1432
01:56:47,840 --> 01:56:56,480
the Mson's. So that would mean that well
9 was probably running the entire time

1433
01:56:54,480 --> 01:57:05,440
um because there was no way to make
sodium hypocchlorite the hypo. Um

1434
01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:10,800
my question um and Lorenzo or um Hector
you guys can answer is how long the has

1435
01:57:07,520 --> 01:57:14,800
a well been offline
because they don't they don't have to

1436
01:57:12,480 --> 01:57:19,199
answer. I'm saying they could um the
reason being is once they open up that

1437
01:57:16,719 --> 01:57:24,719
wellhead there will have to be a full
wellhead disinfection um to get the well

1438
01:57:22,159 --> 01:57:29,440
back online. Is that something that the
city is going to do with its operators

1439
01:57:26,800 --> 01:57:34,800
or is that something that the well
company is going to do? Um after that

1440
01:57:32,960 --> 01:57:39,840
you still have to flush. You have to
wait f between five and 10 days and then

1441
01:57:37,920 --> 01:57:45,520
take a back tea sample to make sure
there is no collar form or anything any

1442
01:57:42,880 --> 01:57:49,280
other bacteria in the well. So once it's
installed the well is not going to be

1443
01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:52,000
running immediately. Um it it's going to
probably be about another week, week and

1444
01:57:50,560 --> 01:57:58,800
a half by the time you get the those
results. Um, and

1445
01:57:56,239 --> 01:58:04,400
when the well was taken offline, was the
state notified to make sure that we

1446
01:58:01,280 --> 01:58:10,320
don't become non-compliant with any of
the well quarterly or annual tests that

1447
01:58:08,159 --> 01:58:14,800
that are being done or that are
required. I'm not saying any any of them

1448
01:58:12,719 --> 01:58:17,840
have been missed. It's if the state was
notified that the well was out of

1449
01:58:16,239 --> 01:58:24,320
commission.
Um,

1450
01:58:19,520 --> 01:58:24,320
and that is all I had. Thank you.

1451
01:58:26,719 --> 01:58:35,480
Thank you for your comment.
Um,

1452
01:58:31,280 --> 01:58:35,480
next on the list is Monty Johnson.

1453
01:58:39,520 --> 01:58:47,280
» Hello, Monty Johnson. Um, longtime
resident of Sunnyside and a teacher

1454
01:58:44,159 --> 01:58:51,199
here. Um, I'd like to just reiterate my
concerns about the flock system. I know

1455
01:58:49,119 --> 01:58:56,719
the council is still considering that.
Um, I have grave concerns about it and

1456
01:58:54,239 --> 01:59:02,800
the the potential for it to violate our
rights to personal privacy. Um, it is a

1457
01:58:59,920 --> 01:59:07,760
powerful technology and I know it can be
used by the police to to stop crime or

1458
01:59:05,040 --> 01:59:12,080
to identify criminals. But if you want
to live in an authoritarian society

1459
01:59:09,760 --> 01:59:17,199
where everybody's monitored all the
time, we could eliminate almost all

1460
01:59:14,239 --> 01:59:22,960
crime. Most people would say that the,
you know, means the ends don't justify

1461
01:59:20,000 --> 01:59:27,119
the means. You know, um, flock is not
that extreme, but I think it could

1462
01:59:25,199 --> 01:59:33,520
possibly be a step towards something
like that. Um, there are clear examples

1463
01:59:30,159 --> 01:59:38,320
of where the system has been abused by
local police across the country and our

1464
01:59:36,239 --> 01:59:42,480
own federal government. I would remind
the council that the University of

1465
01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:46,560
Washington in their report stated that
there were a number of communities in

1466
01:59:44,080 --> 01:59:53,280
our own state where their systems had
been uh accessed basically by uh ICE or

1467
01:59:50,800 --> 01:59:58,960
Border Patrol without their you know
basic permission. Um I'm sure that if

1468
01:59:56,239 --> 02:00:02,960
that is true that ICE or Border Patrol
are aware that that's a violation of our

1469
02:00:01,040 --> 02:00:06,320
state law yet they chose to do it
anyhow.

1470
02:00:04,480 --> 02:00:09,280
Um, you know, and you might be somebody,
well, they're just doing it for

1471
02:00:07,520 --> 02:00:14,639
immigration purposes, but if they can do
it for immigration purposes, they can do

1472
02:00:11,199 --> 02:00:19,760
it for other things as well. Um, you
know, our founding fathers uh included a

1473
02:00:17,440 --> 02:00:25,119
bill of rights in our constitution. They
thought that was necessary basically to

1474
02:00:22,239 --> 02:00:30,320
spell out our basic rights to protect
them from our own government. Our

1475
02:00:28,000 --> 02:00:34,560
government's basic purpose is to protect
our rights. But our founding fathers

1476
02:00:32,560 --> 02:00:38,639
also understood that one of the gravest
threats to our rights is our own

1477
02:00:36,080 --> 02:00:43,520
government. It's up to us as citizens to
make sure that our rights are preserved

1478
02:00:40,239 --> 02:00:47,119
and protected. And if we don't do that,
obviously it's easy to lose them. And

1479
02:00:45,119 --> 02:00:51,119
once rights are lost, they're very
difficult, if not impossible to get

1480
02:00:48,719 --> 02:00:56,080
back. There are examples in history
where society has lost their rights. And

1481
02:00:54,400 --> 02:00:59,280
in most cases, it, you know, if you look
at it, it looks like, well, it's some

1482
02:00:57,440 --> 02:01:03,280
catastrophic event that, you know,
suddenly happened. But if you look at

1483
02:01:01,520 --> 02:01:09,440
things a little closer, usually there's
a long, you know, trail of evidence

1484
02:01:05,679 --> 02:01:14,000
where rights have been gradually eroded.
The government usually comes out and

1485
02:01:11,040 --> 02:01:19,040
says it's necessary for people's
protection that we need to give up or

1486
02:01:16,719 --> 02:01:23,599
weaken certain rights. And usually
there's a few people that will sound the

1487
02:01:21,040 --> 02:01:28,080
alarm, but in general, people will
accept the new normal. And once that new

1488
02:01:26,080 --> 02:01:33,679
normal is established, then the
government can take a further step until

1489
02:01:30,320 --> 02:01:37,280
eventually all rights are lost. I I
don't want to be a crazy conspiracy

1490
02:01:35,199 --> 02:01:42,400
theorist and start wearing tinfoil hats,
but I am concerned about this system and

1491
02:01:40,400 --> 02:01:46,159
I would ask that the council please, you
know, consider that as well.

1492
02:01:44,239 --> 02:01:51,199
» Thank you, Mr. Johnson. Thank you for
your comment.

1493
02:01:48,880 --> 02:01:54,880
Is there anybody else online?
Sorry, we have one more online, so you

1494
02:01:53,040 --> 02:02:02,480
can go ahead and unmute. And could you
state your name for the record, please?

1495
02:01:58,000 --> 02:02:06,800
» Was my name Eskea. I am a resident of
Sunnyside and have lived here for 27

1496
02:02:04,560 --> 02:02:11,199
years. Thank you for the proclamation on
suicide awareness. This month is also

1497
02:02:08,560 --> 02:02:14,880
Hispanic Heritage Month, and our
Hispanic community is facing a mental

1498
02:02:12,880 --> 02:02:19,199
health crisis. Stricter immigration
enforcement policies and rising

1499
02:02:16,639 --> 02:02:23,199
anti-immigrant sentiment worsen mental
health and increased suicide risk in the

1500
02:02:21,040 --> 02:02:26,639
Latino community. Latino youth
experience high rates of emotional

1501
02:02:24,800 --> 02:02:31,760
distress. According to a national youth
survey, 17% of Hispanic high school

1502
02:02:28,880 --> 02:02:37,119
students seriously consider suicide and
9% attempted it in the prior year. Mixed

1503
02:02:35,040 --> 02:02:42,159
status families live with constant fear
of detention or deportation. Hispanic

1504
02:02:39,840 --> 02:02:46,239
men experience up to 24% increase in
suicide rates under this intensified

1505
02:02:44,159 --> 02:02:49,920
enforcement climate. So, I thank you
again for the proclamation.

1506
02:02:48,400 --> 02:02:54,159
Thank you for listening to the community
at our August meeting and not renewing

1507
02:02:52,159 --> 02:02:58,239
the contract for the mobile flock camera
trailer. I'm here today to present

1508
02:02:56,480 --> 02:03:04,560
comments on the flock camera contract
that is active through 2028, costing us

1509
02:03:01,599 --> 02:03:09,440
102,000 annually and covering 39 fixed
automated license plate reading cameras

1510
02:03:06,480 --> 02:03:14,480
across the city. I urge you to continue
to listen to the community and address

1511
02:03:12,159 --> 02:03:20,400
our concerns over the second flock
camera contract. I believe as a council

1512
02:03:17,440 --> 02:03:25,679
and community, our hands are not tied
and urge you to consider our options. I

1513
02:03:24,080 --> 02:03:30,320
would like to see us immediately
deactivate our city's flock cameras.

1514
02:03:28,400 --> 02:03:35,199
Waiting for the contract to expire
exposes our city and its residents to

1515
02:03:32,480 --> 02:03:40,239
ongoing legal, privacy, and financial
liabilities that demand swift

1516
02:03:37,599 --> 02:03:43,360
administrative intervention. Cities
right here in Washington State have

1517
02:03:41,679 --> 02:03:47,360
proven that we do not need to wait out
these contracts to protect our

1518
02:03:45,040 --> 02:03:52,800
communities. Olympia took immediate
action by passing contract timelines to

1519
02:03:49,679 --> 02:03:57,840
order a rapid 24-hour shutdown, manually
hooding every active lens to safeguard

1520
02:03:55,440 --> 02:04:01,840
community trust. Closer to home, the
city of Proser decided to deactivate and

1521
02:03:59,920 --> 02:04:06,320
shut off all 20 of its flock cameras
while under contract. The urgency for

1522
02:04:04,480 --> 02:04:11,760
immediate deactivation while the
contract is active comes down to these

1523
02:04:08,239 --> 02:04:15,599
critical factors. Protecting data. I
left our August city council meeting

1524
02:04:13,440 --> 02:04:20,960
without full confidence that we have
explicit city oversight over these

1525
02:04:17,840 --> 02:04:27,119
cameras and our data. To mitigate
financial and legal liability, Flock's

1526
02:04:24,320 --> 02:04:32,400
updated standards terms shift the legal
and financial burden of data breaches

1527
02:04:29,920 --> 02:04:37,440
and algorithmic flaws directly onto
municipalities

1528
02:04:34,080 --> 02:04:43,040
and its taxpayers. If an error triggers
a false ID or high-risisk traffic stop

1529
02:04:40,239 --> 02:04:47,520
tomorrow, the city of Sunnyside, not
Flock, faces immense legal and financial

1530
02:04:46,000 --> 02:04:52,960
liability.
It is a viable option. Ordering an

1531
02:04:50,239 --> 02:04:58,480
immediate operational halt or putting
protective bags over the lenses is a

1532
02:04:55,280 --> 02:05:02,000
fully viable administrative step.
Protecting civil liberties and

1533
02:05:00,080 --> 02:05:06,480
safeguarding city finances cannot wait
for a 2028 expiration date. I ask this

1534
02:05:04,800 --> 02:05:10,159
council to instruct law enforcement to
deactivate these cameras immediately

1535
02:05:08,480 --> 02:05:14,080
while our legal council reviews the
quickest path for permanent contract

1536
02:05:12,239 --> 02:05:16,960
termination. Thank you for your time,
your leadership, and your urgent

1537
02:05:15,520 --> 02:05:20,960
attention to this matter.
>> Thank you, Mrs. Ga. Thank you for your

1538
02:05:18,960 --> 02:05:24,800
comment.
Is there anybody else online?

1539
02:05:23,920 --> 02:05:29,679
» No, there's no.
>> Okay. So, that that concludes our list

1540
02:05:27,199 --> 02:05:36,119
for public comment
for non-aggenda items and I'll go ahead

1541
02:05:32,560 --> 02:05:36,119
and pass this over.

1542
02:05:36,800 --> 02:05:43,840
Okay.
Moving on from public.

1543
02:05:40,880 --> 02:05:49,280
» I got something to say. Um
if you can give me some time. So, I do I

1544
02:05:46,480 --> 02:05:53,119
do recall back in June when me and Hugo
decided to take over and Pat, correct me

1545
02:05:50,960 --> 02:05:56,880
if I'm wrong, we did a pre-assessment of
the system. Again, this was back in

1546
02:05:55,760 --> 02:06:02,320
June.
>> We did let all of you guys know,

1547
02:05:58,719 --> 02:06:07,119
everyone sitting there that we are
running every single well because we had

1548
02:06:04,480 --> 02:06:11,520
wells down. Um, well 9 was not taking a
break. It was running. I do remember

1549
02:06:09,440 --> 02:06:16,000
telling everybody that and we did say
that those wells are not meant to run

1550
02:06:14,159 --> 02:06:20,639
24/7.
>> So that's why we started the process of

1551
02:06:18,560 --> 02:06:27,679
taking care of all the wells that are
messing up. Um yes 9 messed up. It did

1552
02:06:25,520 --> 02:06:33,199
not mess it messed up when it was
turning on. Uh again, that's why we are

1553
02:06:30,800 --> 02:06:36,960
asking for the SCADA panel upgrade,
which you guys all had seen the new one

1554
02:06:34,800 --> 02:06:41,280
at 12 and 13, and it has that amp draw
and all that other good stuff on there.

1555
02:06:38,400 --> 02:06:47,440
So, there's no way of us able to tell if
there's high amperage on that motor.

1556
02:06:43,599 --> 02:06:51,840
That that ska system is outdated. Um
Picotti Brothers, they're they've been

1557
02:06:49,920 --> 02:06:57,280
doing this for a very long time. They
know what they're doing. And uh we hired

1558
02:06:54,800 --> 02:07:00,159
them for a job to do. So I'm sure they
know what they need to do. They did

1559
02:06:58,560 --> 02:07:04,239
mention that they just had pulled a pump
for CILA and they had just came down

1560
02:07:02,560 --> 02:07:07,679
here to come help us out. So they know
what they're doing. They're the

1561
02:07:05,119 --> 02:07:13,760
professionals. Uh
I've came here knowing that there was a

1562
02:07:10,960 --> 02:07:19,760
lot of problems and I have been I let
all you guys know um the system isn't

1563
02:07:16,800 --> 02:07:24,880
perfect. It's old. It's an aging system.
The system has been aging for a very

1564
02:07:22,079 --> 02:07:28,880
long time, but it's this pushing off and
pushing off. It ended up catching up

1565
02:07:26,719 --> 02:07:33,840
with this. The unfortunate thing is that
it's catching up with me as a lead

1566
02:07:31,040 --> 02:07:38,239
operator here for the city of Sunnyside.
Uh again, I did ask everybody if they

1567
02:07:36,239 --> 02:07:44,239
had any questions to come to me and I
would answer them for them. Uh you will

1568
02:07:42,000 --> 02:07:48,560
see me make mistakes, but you will never
see me quit. I will not quit.

1569
02:07:46,800 --> 02:07:54,079
um the situations are going to get
addressed accordingly. Again, uh we did

1570
02:07:51,920 --> 02:07:58,079
let everybody know that every well was
running and they're not meant to be ran

1571
02:07:55,760 --> 02:08:03,040
like that. So, I just wanted to throw
that comment out there and again that

1572
02:08:00,079 --> 02:08:07,119
this is not going to be the last problem
with the well that you're going to see.

1573
02:08:04,960 --> 02:08:09,679
I don't know why it's been so private.
I'm going to be open and let you guys

1574
02:08:08,480 --> 02:08:13,760
know all the problems that are happening
at the well systems. That's why we did

1575
02:08:12,159 --> 02:08:16,159
the tours. I know Mr. Galvan, I'm
waiting to take you to all of them. If

1576
02:08:15,199 --> 02:08:23,199
you guys want to go to all the other
ones, we can do that. But all I ask from

1577
02:08:19,440 --> 02:08:29,520
you as city council is support. That's
all I ask for. And like it was said

1578
02:08:26,560 --> 02:08:35,520
earlier, it's a two-way street. Trust is
both ways. So that's all I ask. Thank

1579
02:08:33,280 --> 02:08:38,960
you.
>> And Lorenzo, may I double check with

1580
02:08:37,280 --> 02:08:42,320
you? You have a level three
certification and is that the highest

1581
02:08:41,119 --> 02:08:45,920
level?
>> Uh, no. Oh, you can go up to level four,

1582
02:08:44,159 --> 02:08:49,920
which I'm working on, but I do have a
level three in water and I do have a

1583
02:08:48,320 --> 02:08:53,800
level two in sewer. And I'm working on
my level three here in January.

1584
02:08:53,920 --> 02:09:01,360
» And we are we are working diligently on
uh making sure that the city does not

1585
02:08:59,040 --> 02:09:07,040
run out of water. Uh Lorenzo and I are
always looking at the our app that has

1586
02:09:03,920 --> 02:09:11,280
log me in, which tells us um how much
water is in our tower, which pump is

1587
02:09:08,719 --> 02:09:14,880
running. I'm on it at 1 in the morning
sending him a text, waking him up,

1588
02:09:13,280 --> 02:09:20,159
letting him know this is where our water
tower is at. Um when I'm at, you know,

1589
02:09:18,400 --> 02:09:24,000
getting ready for work, check it right
before we go, letting him know again,

1590
02:09:21,920 --> 02:09:29,520
hey, have we checked on it? So, we're in
communications. We worked hard and uh

1591
02:09:27,199 --> 02:09:33,840
we're doing our best. Like I said, we're
human. We are going to make mistakes. Um

1592
02:09:31,920 --> 02:09:39,679
we will do the best that we can with the
system that we have. Um we're here to

1593
02:09:36,480 --> 02:09:45,040
improve it. Um, and also with my other,
you know, supervisors. We're here to

1594
02:09:41,199 --> 02:09:50,960
improve Sunnyside as much as we can. Um,
we would just like the trust and the

1595
02:09:47,599 --> 02:09:55,840
support. That's all we ask for. Um,
we're here to help you guys and support

1596
02:09:52,639 --> 02:10:00,239
you guys as in turn. We hope and I've
and I've said it in my memos before, I

1597
02:09:57,760 --> 02:10:03,679
appreciate your guys' support
and I truly do.

1598
02:10:02,560 --> 02:10:08,480
So,
>> and just another thing too is well 9

1599
02:10:05,679 --> 02:10:12,480
when when well 9 went down um we did
call SCADA. They checked all the SCADA

1600
02:10:10,480 --> 02:10:15,599
stuff. Again, they're going to tell us
your guys' SKA stuff is outdated. We let

1601
02:10:14,480 --> 02:10:20,880
you know that's why you guys have the
bid. We did call electricians to go out

1602
02:10:19,040 --> 02:10:26,320
there and check the soft start. Soft
start was fine. So, we did it backwards.

1603
02:10:24,320 --> 02:10:32,280
We did all the cheaper stuff first and
then unfortunately the more expensive

1604
02:10:28,239 --> 02:10:32,280
thing came out being the motor.

1605
02:10:34,159 --> 02:10:41,040
I'll add to that during my council
report. Um, but for now, I'm going to go

1606
02:10:37,599 --> 02:10:46,079
ahead and start with um actually, hold
on one second. It's mayor's appointments

1607
02:10:43,280 --> 02:10:52,960
and boards and uh boards and commissions
next. I did um notice that we um didn't

1608
02:10:50,480 --> 02:10:58,880
add Sandra Benez for a reappointment. I
believe she had reapplied. Um, so if we

1609
02:10:56,000 --> 02:11:06,400
can add her the next time around and she
can come in and do the swearing. And um,

1610
02:11:01,599 --> 02:11:10,480
there was a vacancy for um, the housing
uh, the Sunnyside housing authority and

1611
02:11:08,400 --> 02:11:15,040
we had an individual who already sits on
the board submit an application. You all

1612
02:11:13,040 --> 02:11:19,599
should have received that um, to your
inboxes as as soon as they anyone

1613
02:11:17,360 --> 02:11:24,880
applies, we all get it to our inboxes
around the same time.

1614
02:11:22,320 --> 02:11:27,440
» Did Mrs. Dolan uh retract her
application. She put it in a long time

1615
02:11:27,040 --> 02:11:30,960
ago.
>> A long time. She retracted it a long

1616
02:11:28,880 --> 02:11:37,040
time ago. At least from my recollection.
>> Never talks to me. So

1617
02:11:32,159 --> 02:11:42,400
» Oh, okay. Sorry about that. Um
and now we will move into because I did

1618
02:11:40,000 --> 02:11:46,880
not see any other applications come in.
We'll go ahead and move to B other

1619
02:11:44,320 --> 02:11:51,239
reports announcements under questions by
council. Councelor Chavez.

1620
02:11:51,360 --> 02:12:00,239
Um, you know, this weekend I had a lot
of reflection and, you know, and I I I

1621
02:11:58,480 --> 02:12:03,679
want to, you know, kind of put myself on
that and I want to kind of hold myself

1622
02:12:02,159 --> 02:12:10,079
accountable as the same time holding
other people accountable. And

1623
02:12:07,040 --> 02:12:18,800
you know when when I when I I'm looking
at this uh project going on at the park

1624
02:12:13,280 --> 02:12:22,560
in um over at up uh Upland Park and I
just don't see I think we're trading

1625
02:12:20,239 --> 02:12:28,480
water there. We're trading water. This
project has been going on forever and we

1626
02:12:26,320 --> 02:12:33,040
I just it's and I'm putting that on me
too because I'm part of that um the

1627
02:12:30,719 --> 02:12:38,320
parks commission. So, I'm going to uh
put my stuff available this weekend to

1628
02:12:35,920 --> 02:12:42,880
get it going because we can't keep we
can't continue doing this. We we've been

1629
02:12:40,480 --> 02:12:46,639
waiting I think 2 3 months. We already
have I believe we have all the stuff and

1630
02:12:44,960 --> 02:12:50,079
I just think we're just not pushing fast
enough on that. And so, I'm kind of

1631
02:12:48,320 --> 02:12:54,079
holding myself accountable for this too
because I'm part of that.

1632
02:12:51,760 --> 02:12:58,480
» I'm going to give you a um rundown on
everything.

1633
02:12:54,719 --> 02:13:03,440
» Yeah. Perfect. And so, you know, um you
know, I it's that's kind of where I'm at

1634
02:13:00,639 --> 02:13:11,119
with the with the parks commission. I
with the our um parks and in regards to

1635
02:13:07,280 --> 02:13:16,239
um to our public safety one, I want to
make sure that we meet again. So, let's

1636
02:13:13,599 --> 02:13:20,800
schedule a meeting. Um I think there's a
lot of things that we need to address

1637
02:13:18,079 --> 02:13:26,000
and um so I'm hoping that uh I get an
email from from Rob and uh we can get

1638
02:13:23,760 --> 02:13:31,920
together for that, too.
because I think we're overdoing it. We

1639
02:13:27,840 --> 02:13:36,560
haven't had one in what, two months.
So, I'm I'm like I said, I I really this

1640
02:13:34,719 --> 02:13:40,159
weekend I really reflected on a lot of
things and I'm and I got to, you know,

1641
02:13:38,800 --> 02:13:43,360
I'm have to hold myself accountable for
it. I'm actually dropping the ball on

1642
02:13:41,599 --> 02:13:46,159
and I can't do that. I got to continue,
you know, and I ask my my peers here,

1643
02:13:45,040 --> 02:13:49,840
you know, if you guys see, you know,
hold me accountable for it, too. You

1644
02:13:47,760 --> 02:13:54,719
know, don't be afraid to say, "Hey, we
what's going on with this? I don't see

1645
02:13:51,520 --> 02:13:58,719
it moving." you know, and um I need that
too.

1646
02:13:57,280 --> 02:14:03,239
» Thank you, Councelor Chavis. Councelor
Sati,

1647
02:14:00,239 --> 02:14:03,239
» um

1648
02:14:03,360 --> 02:14:08,639
touching on the the safety issue with
the with the incident at the school, the

1649
02:14:06,560 --> 02:14:15,520
the crosswalk and stuff, I I think, you
know, we do need to get together. Um

1650
02:14:13,040 --> 02:14:21,119
I think the ball was dropped and I feel
like um it was fingerpointing. We did

1651
02:14:19,440 --> 02:14:26,719
this, no, they didn't. Blah blah blah.
So, I I just think in order to avoid

1652
02:14:24,000 --> 02:14:30,320
something else, um you know, I even
spoke to staff who actually have been

1653
02:14:28,239 --> 02:14:34,000
working at the school who all said
that's always been a crosswalk. So, it

1654
02:14:32,000 --> 02:14:37,119
just seems like
something that should have been

1655
02:14:35,040 --> 02:14:42,480
notified, updated probably every school
year, every 6 months, whatever. We don't

1656
02:14:39,040 --> 02:14:46,560
use this. But anyway, I think we that
could have been avoided like Raquel

1657
02:14:44,000 --> 02:14:50,159
said. And I I think we need to um
continue that conversation for the

1658
02:14:48,560 --> 02:14:57,040
safety of not only our children, the
community. Um I also do want to say that

1659
02:14:53,040 --> 02:15:01,760
um I am proud of the arts commission who
was out there in the cold uh the Sunday

1660
02:14:59,520 --> 02:15:06,560
of Sunshine Days. I did volunteer a few
hours and even though it was cold and

1661
02:15:03,840 --> 02:15:11,520
rainy, we probably at least the about
four hours that I was there, I would say

1662
02:15:08,800 --> 02:15:15,440
there was about close to 20 kids. So,
and some parents were involved too. And

1663
02:15:13,840 --> 02:15:20,960
so that was that was cool to see the
kids just excited painting um canvases

1664
02:15:18,079 --> 02:15:28,159
and I think most of them did canvases
and also um the

1665
02:15:24,880 --> 02:15:29,679
arcade. What's the name? Infinity. I um
well a few of us.

1666
02:15:28,800 --> 02:15:34,320
» Infinity World.
>> Infinity World. It's amazing. If you

1667
02:15:32,320 --> 02:15:38,480
guys haven't checked it out, I'm I was
going to say if you have kids, even even

1668
02:15:36,480 --> 02:15:43,840
adults would have a blast there. It it's
amazing. So go support. And I'm excited

1669
02:15:41,360 --> 02:15:50,320
to see what the Edison parking lot has
um is going to have. I did see a a post

1670
02:15:46,400 --> 02:15:54,800
or a Tik Tok about um inviting
others for a barbecue competition or

1671
02:15:52,400 --> 02:16:00,239
something. So hopefully that gets going
and I can't wait to go try out some

1672
02:15:57,360 --> 02:16:05,840
barbecue or whatever it was. But yeah,
other than that, that's it. Thank you,

1673
02:16:03,360 --> 02:16:12,159
council. Is that the councelor Dolan?
>> Oh yeah, I got a few things here. um

1674
02:16:08,400 --> 02:16:17,169
questions and statements and uh you need
to work on your bumper cars a little bit

1675
02:16:13,760 --> 02:16:17,169
there, mayor. [laughter]

1676
02:16:18,239 --> 02:16:22,880
Oh, that was a lot of fun. I really
enjoyed that.

1677
02:16:21,360 --> 02:16:28,320
» Took a couple of you out.
>> Kind of targeted, you know,

1678
02:16:26,320 --> 02:16:31,679
but that was a lot of fun. And uh I
think that place was set up awesome

1679
02:16:30,159 --> 02:16:35,760
because you walk in the door and here's
a security guard and then it's kind of a

1680
02:16:34,080 --> 02:16:39,359
long trick for a kid to get down there
where all the games are and start

1681
02:16:37,920 --> 02:16:44,559
playing games, but once they're there,
you can just kind of smile and head in

1682
02:16:42,000 --> 02:16:49,439
there and get a turkey leg. And so it
was they have a food court. He he had

1683
02:16:46,960 --> 02:16:53,920
the machine set up. There's a lot of old
school machines that I really enjoyed. I

1684
02:16:51,920 --> 02:17:00,399
didn't see any pinball, you know, at
that blind guy I play with. So, um, it's

1685
02:16:58,479 --> 02:17:05,359
it [laughter]
was a lot of fun. I I encourage

1686
02:17:02,719 --> 02:17:10,080
everybody to go try it out at least once
because it's all electronic now. You use

1687
02:17:07,280 --> 02:17:14,080
a you pick up a card, you tap it on
there, you play your game, you can get

1688
02:17:12,080 --> 02:17:18,319
more points and build up on your card
again and play some more. The kids were

1689
02:17:16,000 --> 02:17:27,760
just way past me on how to run those
things. So, it was a lot of fun. Okay.

1690
02:17:21,359 --> 02:17:34,000
So, to address your mental health, um,
this is, and I'll get you all copies of

1691
02:17:31,599 --> 02:17:39,519
this. This is a,
um, engineered

1692
02:17:36,559 --> 02:17:44,240
project pretty close to what we're doing
up at Upland Park. It's very close. And

1693
02:17:42,479 --> 02:17:48,240
I went to an engineer that owed me a
favor. He said, "I'd be happy to do that

1694
02:17:45,920 --> 02:17:53,359
for you." He's working on it now for our
project. So, if it does come about in

1695
02:17:49,840 --> 02:17:59,200
the future, it's there. But I went and
talked to the parks supervisor, uh,

1696
02:17:56,160 --> 02:18:02,800
Mitch, and he said he's not touching it
because, um, it has to be engineered

1697
02:18:01,280 --> 02:18:07,760
first. So, I went and got it
engineering. This would explain to you

1698
02:18:05,599 --> 02:18:13,120
why I haven't, and I apologize for not
communicating sooner. I I meant to come

1699
02:18:10,160 --> 02:18:17,200
by and see you and uh call everybody in
and say um we're going to put this uh I

1700
02:18:15,519 --> 02:18:22,399
know Julia was chomping at a bit to
paint all these poles and stuff. So I

1701
02:18:19,519 --> 02:18:26,719
was kind of I was kind of falling down
on my communication uh things with

1702
02:18:24,960 --> 02:18:31,679
everyone, but I did pick this up from
him. It kind of explains that we put be

1703
02:18:29,599 --> 02:18:42,399
under each pool we'd be putting a yard
and a half of concrete which is a 4x4

1704
02:18:37,120 --> 02:18:47,040
six no four by Yeah. 4x4 by 4 foot3
block of concrete

1705
02:18:44,479 --> 02:18:52,559
to be able to withstand
100 mph winds. Um I said, "Well, they're

1706
02:18:50,719 --> 02:18:58,080
going to be taken off every year and put
away for the winter." And he laughed and

1707
02:18:54,399 --> 02:19:03,280
said, "And if it doesn't happen, then
somebody might very easily get hurt." He

1708
02:19:00,639 --> 02:19:09,679
did the calculations for that. This is
for a sign.

1709
02:19:06,559 --> 02:19:13,679
uh Granger Chamber of Commerce sign and
uh it's basically the same thing we're

1710
02:19:11,679 --> 02:19:21,120
doing at the top of ours would have a
little tilt to it to throw a shadow on

1711
02:19:16,240 --> 02:19:24,479
the slides. Um he said the poles were
barely

1712
02:19:22,719 --> 02:19:28,960
uh big enough and heavy enough for what
we're doing, but because it's fabric and

1713
02:19:26,960 --> 02:19:32,559
not a solid sign like these, he said you
might be able to get away with it. He

1714
02:19:30,719 --> 02:19:37,439
has to finish all the calculations for
us, but we cannot really even go up

1715
02:19:34,880 --> 02:19:42,639
there. you're going to be digging with a
backhoe and putting in a 4x4 hole a

1716
02:19:41,040 --> 02:19:48,960
little bigger than that to be able to
drop that much concrete in there. He did

1717
02:19:46,080 --> 02:19:54,080
say that the the posts if you do it this
way, then they all have to be drilled

1718
02:19:51,840 --> 02:19:58,080
and the rebar inserted in the bottom of
them. If you do with another plate

1719
02:19:56,000 --> 02:20:02,720
welded to the bottom of those plates,
that gives you your 16 ft. But you

1720
02:20:00,160 --> 02:20:09,200
needed a bigger plate to withstand the
moment, what they call the moment on

1721
02:20:06,000 --> 02:20:14,880
that thing. And that would that would uh
hopefully eliminate the pole going over

1722
02:20:11,439 --> 02:20:20,000
and hitting a kid on the slide. It they
try to plan these guys try to plan for

1723
02:20:17,520 --> 02:20:27,520
and he's a good engineer. I think they
plan for what can happen because when it

1724
02:20:23,680 --> 02:20:32,000
does happen, you Oh, kind of messed up
on that one, didn't we? But if you like

1725
02:20:29,760 --> 02:20:35,439
to, I can get you copies of this. This
gives you an idea of what we're looking

1726
02:20:33,280 --> 02:20:40,080
at to do that. I thought it'd be a great
project for all of us to get involved

1727
02:20:36,960 --> 02:20:44,319
in. Um, it it would be a fun little
project, but it's turned into a very

1728
02:20:42,479 --> 02:20:48,880
large
project that we would have to have the

1729
02:20:45,920 --> 02:20:52,560
cities help with. Maybe some of the guys
in streets could come up and dig the

1730
02:20:50,560 --> 02:20:56,880
holes or I mean, trying to do that with
a vac

1731
02:20:55,280 --> 02:21:00,640
» and we'd be willing to help out. like
it's always stated, I'm I'm willing to

1732
02:20:58,399 --> 02:21:04,080
do what I can and uh I believe my team
is willing to help out also

1733
02:21:02,080 --> 02:21:08,560
» and they they that's exactly what they
said and they help me get things set up

1734
02:21:05,840 --> 02:21:12,880
down there. But the problem is that you
know we're getting into where uh this is

1735
02:21:11,439 --> 02:21:18,000
the time of year where if you can get
some of it ready and done, protect it

1736
02:21:15,200 --> 02:21:21,280
for the spring, get on it again in the
spring and see how we can work this out

1737
02:21:19,520 --> 02:21:26,960
because that excavation is going to be a
big deal. Those are 10 foot apart. These

1738
02:21:23,840 --> 02:21:31,520
are only 4T apart. So, there's a lot of
fabric to stretch out there, but like

1739
02:21:30,000 --> 02:21:37,120
you say, we have just about everything
we need except the manpower and

1740
02:21:35,439 --> 02:21:43,920
some of the materials to put this
together. So, um it's not forgotten. I I

1741
02:21:42,240 --> 02:21:50,240
want you to know I'm still working. I
put about a a good four days in on it,

1742
02:21:46,800 --> 02:21:56,800
the leg work and whatnot. And uh
I think it's a very viable thing. I I

1743
02:21:52,800 --> 02:22:02,160
question how often we would need those
put up because you have we have what

1744
02:21:59,359 --> 02:22:08,560
maybe maybe as much as a month of hot
weather. The direct sunlight was putting

1745
02:22:06,000 --> 02:22:11,920
quite a bit of heat on the slides. I
went up and measured or put my hands on

1746
02:22:10,720 --> 02:22:17,920
everything when I checked it in the
hottest part of the day with the direct

1747
02:22:13,280 --> 02:22:22,720
sunlight. The uh um
Mr. Gary had taken a heat gun up there

1748
02:22:20,240 --> 02:22:27,280
and actually put it on the slides during
the hot part of the day and it did come

1749
02:22:24,240 --> 02:22:32,720
out to 146°.
I believe 140 is the threshold for

1750
02:22:30,080 --> 02:22:36,640
second degree burns. Um, at first I was
real skeptical about that because

1751
02:22:34,800 --> 02:22:40,800
they're plastic and it's a special
plastic, but these slides are actually

1752
02:22:38,880 --> 02:22:45,600
made with something different than the
poles are coated with. So, it did turn

1753
02:22:43,680 --> 02:22:50,880
out to be a pretty hot thing. Uh we had
a testimony from uh Jill Patterson and

1754
02:22:48,560 --> 02:22:55,120
her daughters were there in the meeting
and they said she said they won't go to

1755
02:22:53,439 --> 02:22:58,640
the park without long pants on and they
don't want to go with long pants on so

1756
02:22:56,399 --> 02:23:05,120
they don't go to the park anymore.
So we just uh made it a requirement for

1757
02:23:01,359 --> 02:23:11,840
long pants. No, I'm just kidding. Um
if you go up there and look at it, the

1758
02:23:08,080 --> 02:23:16,479
the the play area is bordered with
like 4x4s or 6x sixes I believe. And

1759
02:23:14,479 --> 02:23:23,359
then it has
bark chips um in the in there for the

1760
02:23:20,640 --> 02:23:28,800
cushion falls and whatever. And an idea
that was suggested said uh they said,

1761
02:23:26,720 --> 02:23:32,880
"Well, why don't we put a 4ft fence
around it and lock it when it's too

1762
02:23:31,359 --> 02:23:37,200
hot?"
I mean, it's if it's a a safety issue,

1763
02:23:35,280 --> 02:23:41,840
then it's kind of like the pool. We
don't leave the pool wide open every

1764
02:23:38,720 --> 02:23:46,399
night during the summer because kids
will drown in there. So, if we had like

1765
02:23:44,319 --> 02:23:50,960
a 4ft fence and we have signage, the
correct signage up there, because we

1766
02:23:47,920 --> 02:23:55,439
have some signage, but it's not enough.
But a 4ft fence and locking the gates

1767
02:23:53,680 --> 02:24:00,319
and then going up and opening them in
the mornings,

1768
02:23:57,120 --> 02:24:04,720
I I can see that that might be maybe the
total expense we'd have to worry about

1769
02:24:02,640 --> 02:24:08,240
if it's too hot for their kids. A good
parent is going to be there and say,

1770
02:24:05,760 --> 02:24:14,319
"No, you can't. Let's go over here and
go on the swings or something." I have I

1771
02:24:10,800 --> 02:24:17,840
have very few places that I've been and
I did check around a lot to see if

1772
02:24:16,080 --> 02:24:26,080
there's shades on anything else. I there
was one at the child care over there on

1773
02:24:20,560 --> 02:24:30,240
um 16th and and Sheller I believe
uh right on the corner there by the

1774
02:24:27,680 --> 02:24:33,600
Chris Christian school property. But
that's the only place I saw a shade

1775
02:24:32,080 --> 02:24:39,840
anywhere
um over playground equipment. So, it's

1776
02:24:37,920 --> 02:24:44,560
something to discuss further. I believe
if we did looked at it again at the

1777
02:24:42,479 --> 02:24:51,120
workshop, take our time, do this right,
because you don't have engineered

1778
02:24:48,000 --> 02:24:55,920
drawings and and an engineered plan.
when they told Pat um he called the

1779
02:24:54,160 --> 02:25:01,840
insurance company, they said, "Well, you
have a low, it's kind of a low liability

1780
02:24:58,560 --> 02:25:06,240
for this, but I think I'm pretty sure
that the assumption was you're going to

1781
02:25:03,600 --> 02:25:11,280
have a contractor, professionals do it.
We were going to do it as a council."

1782
02:25:08,080 --> 02:25:15,920
And uh it can be done. I mean, I like I
said, I know Julie just wants to grab a

1783
02:25:13,280 --> 02:25:21,040
paintbrush right now and get all those
bulls painted up because they I think

1784
02:25:18,080 --> 02:25:27,439
they'll work pretty good. And uh
questions. I had one for Pat. Um did we

1785
02:25:25,359 --> 02:25:34,280
get our
grand uh what's it called? The master

1786
02:25:29,840 --> 02:25:34,280
plan, soccer master plan yet.

1787
02:25:34,720 --> 02:25:40,240
» We have received it.
>> We have it.

1788
02:25:36,880 --> 02:25:47,359
» So, right. So, I could u present that to
a parks committee and have it reviewed.

1789
02:25:43,520 --> 02:25:53,920
Um but I uh I haven't had access to it.
I've reviewed it. Um, I'm not sure what

1790
02:25:50,720 --> 02:25:56,160
we want to um
learn from that, but uh I have a copy of

1791
02:25:55,840 --> 02:26:01,520
it.
>> Well, I was I was thinking about um

1792
02:25:59,439 --> 02:26:05,840
along these lines, goal placement. Um
are are we going to create these goals?

1793
02:26:03,840 --> 02:26:11,359
I mean, they're really super expensive.
And I know uh several places that have

1794
02:26:08,800 --> 02:26:14,720
this steel that can be fabricated into
soccer goals depending on what age

1795
02:26:13,439 --> 02:26:19,680
group. Are they going to use the fulls
size goals here? There's a lot of ways

1796
02:26:17,040 --> 02:26:24,319
to go with it. And so the fact that he
has gotten lived up to his

1797
02:26:22,399 --> 02:26:27,600
responsibility and got us that back,
it's like a go-ahhead for us to go ahead

1798
02:26:26,000 --> 02:26:34,359
and start looking at ways to make that
happen.

1799
02:26:30,000 --> 02:26:34,359
» And I think that's about all I got.

1800
02:26:34,960 --> 02:26:37,760
» Oh,
>> he does. He just want doesn't want to

1801
02:26:37,280 --> 02:26:39,760
talk about it.
>> Are you sure?

1802
02:26:38,399 --> 02:26:42,720
» All this time.
>> Yeah.

1803
02:26:40,240 --> 02:26:47,439
» Okay. Um uh Deputy Mayor,
>> nothing.

1804
02:26:45,359 --> 02:26:53,200
» Okay. So, I'm going to be I'm going to
try to be quick and and just just just

1805
02:26:49,680 --> 02:26:58,640
very direct here. Um, we had a a school
board um member um approach the mic and

1806
02:26:56,479 --> 02:27:04,479
talk about the incident that happened on
Edison. So, um

1807
02:27:02,479 --> 02:27:10,560
I
on around September 11th, I did send an

1808
02:27:07,040 --> 02:27:14,080
initial email because I uh to to Mr.
Haley and I copied members of the public

1809
02:27:12,319 --> 02:27:19,600
safety committee. I I I clearly remember
copying Tom Dolan um on this email to

1810
02:27:17,120 --> 02:27:28,000
Pat um expressing the urgency of
addressing the hazard that this faint

1811
02:27:22,960 --> 02:27:33,040
crosswalk um creates to students
um uh over at the high school that are

1812
02:27:31,200 --> 02:27:38,880
attempting to continue to try to use
that crosswalk even though it's no

1813
02:27:34,479 --> 02:27:44,240
longer a crosswalk. Um, and I had a
parent actually call me a week before

1814
02:27:40,640 --> 02:27:49,520
that um, concerned that she like
actually saw an an accident that almost

1815
02:27:47,359 --> 02:27:53,840
happened because of actually what
happened on Monday. There was a car

1816
02:27:51,200 --> 02:27:57,359
coming out of the parking lot and in
their blind spot there was a student

1817
02:27:55,600 --> 02:28:01,600
that was actually not trying to cross
the crosswalk I believe but was

1818
02:27:59,600 --> 02:28:07,280
according to Mr. Haley was going onto
the sidewalk. Nevertheless, that area

1819
02:28:03,920 --> 02:28:11,600
there is very problematic. Um, I went
out on September 11th. No, September

1820
02:28:10,000 --> 02:28:15,040
11th, I sent that initial email. I
copied some of you who are part of the

1821
02:28:13,359 --> 02:28:19,920
public safety. I'm usually always
copying the deputy mayor on these. Um, I

1822
02:28:18,000 --> 02:28:24,720
tried to interchange whoever I'm copying
just so I keep most of you in the loop.

1823
02:28:22,080 --> 02:28:32,720
Um, I didn't get a response until around
Monday from U. Mr. Haley and um, from my

1824
02:28:29,680 --> 02:28:37,680
um, very obscure recollection. And I I
remember um the email saying something

1825
02:28:34,800 --> 02:28:42,960
like um I' I've driven around and it
seems like the city is in compliance. Um

1826
02:28:40,800 --> 02:28:47,680
and you know that email told me, well
there's nothing else to do. So then I

1827
02:28:44,640 --> 02:28:51,600
pushed back on that email and I said um
something along the lines of um at this

1828
02:28:50,000 --> 02:28:56,240
point I actually take it upon myself to
go take pictures of the crosswalks that

1829
02:28:53,680 --> 02:29:01,040
I was referring to um around 8 in the
morning. and I sent an another email

1830
02:28:58,479 --> 02:29:06,000
this time and I believe I switch and I
maybe copy you Mr. Chavez um because

1831
02:29:04,560 --> 02:29:12,240
you're also part of the public safety
committee um subcommittee and um I say

1832
02:29:09,520 --> 02:29:16,800
actually um you know many times laws do
not equate to protection just as

1833
02:29:14,640 --> 02:29:21,439
compliance doesn't equate to safety. So,
we should look into this a lot further

1834
02:29:19,120 --> 02:29:26,880
and a lot thorough. And if we have to,
let's pull in the school district um

1835
02:29:24,319 --> 02:29:31,280
because we need to stop working in silos
and we need to come together

1836
02:29:28,399 --> 02:29:35,760
collaboratively to uh make sure that we
have a safety plan in place. What are

1837
02:29:33,680 --> 02:29:40,319
our streets crews doing knowing that
that's not a crosswalk there? Um to make

1838
02:29:38,080 --> 02:29:46,319
sure that we're painting over it um as
frequently as we need to, especially

1839
02:29:41,920 --> 02:29:50,319
when school's about to commence. Um, and
what's our communication with the school

1840
02:29:48,000 --> 02:29:55,359
district to make sure that if there are
problem areas um that we receive maybe

1841
02:29:53,760 --> 02:29:58,800
as council members because usually we
are the first to be tapped in from the

1842
02:29:57,120 --> 02:30:04,000
community comes to us and then it might
go to the the city manager usually is

1843
02:30:01,120 --> 02:30:07,120
how it happens. And if we're tapped in,
um, how do we make sure that through the

1844
02:30:05,520 --> 02:30:13,439
city manager, we're conveying that to
the school district or, um, we're trying

1845
02:30:11,120 --> 02:30:21,120
to come together, uh, to have a
conversation. Um, after that, I I

1846
02:30:16,800 --> 02:30:26,479
believe um um, somebody maybe it was
you, Councelor Sati, that inserted

1847
02:30:23,200 --> 02:30:31,600
yourself and you asked a question. Um,
nevertheless, I I didn't receive any

1848
02:30:28,560 --> 02:30:35,680
other um feedback if things were getting
taken care of, if they were not taken

1849
02:30:33,120 --> 02:30:40,479
care of. Um, and then I might have sent
out another email along the way. Um, all

1850
02:30:38,560 --> 02:30:44,160
that to say is that by Tuesday last
week, I have no idea what's going on.

1851
02:30:42,319 --> 02:30:48,160
Um, I don't know if it's getting taken
care of. Um, I know that maybe you,

1852
02:30:46,640 --> 02:30:51,200
Hector, had reached out and said, "We're
going to take care of the situation.

1853
02:30:49,439 --> 02:30:58,880
However, there's no there's no timeline.
There's no deadline. There's no when,

1854
02:30:53,359 --> 02:31:03,200
how, who." Um, and so, um, I'm, uh, out
of town. Maybe Monday morning. I

1855
02:31:01,359 --> 02:31:09,520
actually end up losing connection to my
email. Thank you, Jafet, for helping

1856
02:31:04,880 --> 02:31:17,280
restore my password. um on Tuesday and
um Monday I get this um I actually uh

1857
02:31:13,439 --> 02:31:21,680
get a screenshot to uh sent to me about
um this the PD um informing the

1858
02:31:20,399 --> 02:31:25,760
community that there has been an
accident on Edison and then a

1859
02:31:23,439 --> 02:31:32,160
50-year-old high school student is at
the hospital with leg injuries. So

1860
02:31:28,640 --> 02:31:37,840
imagine from the 11th through the day
that the accident happens in between we

1861
02:31:35,120 --> 02:31:42,399
talk about uh trust in between there
being no clear and concise communication

1862
02:31:40,160 --> 02:31:48,800
from the interim city manager from
public works um from the school board

1863
02:31:46,640 --> 02:31:53,920
for the school district letting us know
how this issue was going to be handled.

1864
02:31:51,680 --> 02:32:00,399
And then on Monday, I wake up to someone
being injured, a child being injured and

1865
02:31:56,880 --> 02:32:04,880
at in and now at the Sunnyside Hospital.
That literally was a hit to the gut

1866
02:32:02,800 --> 02:32:09,520
because at that moment I thought, what
could I have done as a council member

1867
02:32:07,280 --> 02:32:16,000
who was actually approached by a parent?
Um what how could my colleagues um help

1868
02:32:14,080 --> 02:32:19,680
how could they have helped reinforce the
situation and the urgency of the

1869
02:32:17,439 --> 02:32:23,600
situation? how could this the interim
city manager have stepped in um to make

1870
02:32:22,160 --> 02:32:28,399
sure that things were moving a lot
quicker? And you know, at at that point

1871
02:32:26,000 --> 02:32:33,040
in time, all I thought was it could have
been worse. Thank god it was not worse.

1872
02:32:31,439 --> 02:32:40,240
And
um then I think yesterday, no maybe the

1873
02:32:37,359 --> 02:32:46,960
day before, um councelor Chavez
mentioned that he was out with public

1874
02:32:42,479 --> 02:32:54,640
works and there was a second uh uh
layout of the tar um uh actively being

1875
02:32:50,800 --> 02:32:59,120
sto um laid out um that morning with now
cones around it. And so now I'm

1876
02:32:56,479 --> 02:33:04,560
thinking, well, why are we why do we
move after something happens instead of

1877
02:33:02,399 --> 02:33:11,120
being proactive? Again, I'm going to
take the schoolboard members word. We're

1878
02:33:06,880 --> 02:33:14,880
being reactive. And so, um, I'm just
going to reiterate to all of you right

1879
02:33:12,800 --> 02:33:20,240
now is when I'm copying you all on an
email, it's not just for just out of the

1880
02:33:18,160 --> 02:33:23,280
blue. I'm copying you all on an email.
When I'm bringing things to the interm

1881
02:33:21,760 --> 02:33:27,920
city manager, I'm not bringing a
honeydew list just to bring a honeydew

1882
02:33:25,280 --> 02:33:31,760
list to the NRM city manager. Usually
with things when I am approaching

1883
02:33:29,760 --> 02:33:36,960
situations, when I'm trying to contact
any of you, it's because I believe it is

1884
02:33:34,960 --> 02:33:42,560
urgent and because I believe it is
something that we need to take care of.

1885
02:33:38,800 --> 02:33:48,960
Um, and so that leads me to to just kind
of a side note here is if I am copying

1886
02:33:46,000 --> 02:33:53,840
you all, if I am calling you all, um, if
I am maybe texting you all, um, out of

1887
02:33:52,000 --> 02:33:58,720
common courtesy, and we can put this in
in the rules and procedures, and we can

1888
02:33:55,680 --> 02:34:02,240
amend this, is that we should be acting
to respond to each other. Sometimes

1889
02:34:00,640 --> 02:34:06,640
we're not responding as quickly as we
can because I understand that we all

1890
02:34:04,000 --> 02:34:10,000
have lives and we all have to take care
of our jobs and we're in the middle of

1891
02:34:08,479 --> 02:34:15,040
maybe with family and you know
emergencies come up. But I I do request

1892
02:34:12,880 --> 02:34:20,160
that we are being as responsive to one
another as possible. Um, you know,

1893
02:34:17,920 --> 02:34:24,800
Deputy Mayor Hart, um, because I haven't
been getting responses from you via

1894
02:34:22,080 --> 02:34:28,479
email, via phone, I am now going to do
this publicly and I am going to say

1895
02:34:26,800 --> 02:34:32,560
that, you know, it's becoming quite an
inconvenience when I'm trying to reach

1896
02:34:30,319 --> 02:34:38,319
out to my deputy mayor, the deputy
mayor, um, when I'm trying to obtain

1897
02:34:35,520 --> 02:34:42,800
reinforcement, support, backing, when
things like these are happening and they

1898
02:34:40,560 --> 02:34:47,760
are urgent and when we are trying to
work to fix something and they are

1899
02:34:44,800 --> 02:34:52,560
urgent and I am not getting responses.
It is frustrating and it is becoming a

1900
02:34:50,560 --> 02:34:57,120
barrier to the progress to the work for
the city and this is across the board

1901
02:34:55,359 --> 02:35:00,640
because I hope that you are also going
back to councelor Chavez you are also

1902
02:34:58,640 --> 02:35:06,080
holding me accountable if I'm not being
responsive to you all. I do not agree

1903
02:35:03,040 --> 02:35:11,040
with many of you on many thing many many
things you know some some things morally

1904
02:35:08,000 --> 02:35:15,520
ethically um you know you know I'm not
here to you know to to your point

1905
02:35:13,840 --> 02:35:19,200
interim city manager you know you did
ask me a little bit ago are we friends

1906
02:35:17,520 --> 02:35:22,720
I'm not here to make friends and I want
to make that very clear and I'm not sure

1907
02:35:21,120 --> 02:35:27,280
how that's going to land too many of you
but I'm not here to make friends I am

1908
02:35:24,160 --> 02:35:30,319
here to collaborate to get jobs done I
am make sure I am here to collaborate

1909
02:35:28,800 --> 02:35:41,200
with every single one of you whether we
agree um uh or on on on personal issues,

1910
02:35:35,359 --> 02:35:44,080
on um uh moral issues, on value issues,
whether we agree or not, if it's

1911
02:35:42,640 --> 02:35:48,960
something that's going to improve and
help the city and support our community,

1912
02:35:46,800 --> 02:35:54,560
I will work with every single one of
you. So, I want for you all to continue

1913
02:35:53,040 --> 02:35:59,600
holding me accountable. If I'm not being
as responsive, if you all would need me

1914
02:35:56,240 --> 02:36:05,040
to be responsive, I ask the same of of
you, you know, vice versa here, you

1915
02:36:03,040 --> 02:36:09,359
know, I if if it's something that
pertains to the city and the improvement

1916
02:36:07,439 --> 02:36:15,120
and the rehabilitation and public
safety, I will move mountains to make

1917
02:36:12,880 --> 02:36:19,439
sure that I am sitting across from you
to make sure that we are having

1918
02:36:16,319 --> 02:36:24,160
conversations to create action plans to
make sure that we are addressing dire

1919
02:36:22,080 --> 02:36:29,280
urgent situations when they arise. and
we are not having to wake up one morning

1920
02:36:26,720 --> 02:36:33,040
knowing that we could have done more to
prevent somebody

1921
02:36:31,280 --> 02:36:39,760
being sent to the hospital with leg
injuries. Now,

1922
02:36:36,000 --> 02:36:43,439
um what I'm I'm going to add here is is
is lastly kind of lastly because I'm

1923
02:36:41,840 --> 02:36:48,720
going to try to summarize this up is
that uh the the um the um I did go down

1924
02:36:47,439 --> 02:36:52,560
to the workshop session for the
schoolboard because I did want to

1925
02:36:49,760 --> 02:36:58,800
directly talk to the superintendent and
um I did ask for um the the interim city

1926
02:36:55,840 --> 02:37:03,920
manager uh the PD um for folks from
public works uh from for the for the

1927
02:37:01,359 --> 02:37:09,600
school board to come together and have a
meeting where we address a safety plan

1928
02:37:07,120 --> 02:37:13,520
between the school and between the city
to make sure that we are on the same

1929
02:37:11,280 --> 02:37:21,439
page about how we are going to move
forward to make sure that we aspire to

1930
02:37:17,359 --> 02:37:27,200
having zero zero casualties
uh zero injuries on our streets, zero

1931
02:37:24,560 --> 02:37:32,560
injuries and zero harm um in our
community uh because it's really

1932
02:37:29,760 --> 02:37:37,920
important. I know that we can't um it
can't be more than than than three of us

1933
02:37:35,280 --> 02:37:41,280
before it becomes quorum, but if more of
you want to come, there's a way to go

1934
02:37:39,840 --> 02:37:45,520
about it and all we have to do is
announce it. We can take action, but we

1935
02:37:44,000 --> 02:37:51,439
can bring it back to council to take
action. Um and it is an initial meeting

1936
02:37:48,479 --> 02:37:57,600
that um I sent out trying to bring us
together and if um uh I was going to ask

1937
02:37:54,399 --> 02:38:03,760
Mr. Haley to send you all that email. Um
it it has been um I think we identified

1938
02:38:00,399 --> 02:38:08,880
a date for Tuesday at 400 pm. If there's
more of you that than three that want to

1939
02:38:05,760 --> 02:38:12,960
attend um I think that's amazing. We'll
just have to go through proper protocol

1940
02:38:11,520 --> 02:38:17,359
to make sure that we are not violating
OPMA. Um but we need to come together

1941
02:38:15,760 --> 02:38:21,359
and we need to stop working in silos to
address these issues. Um just going to

1942
02:38:19,520 --> 02:38:27,600
address one comment that she said there
about um my um conversation with the

1943
02:38:25,040 --> 02:38:31,359
interim city manager about um you know
what I I had an agenda meeting

1944
02:38:29,680 --> 02:38:35,040
yesterday. Usually we have agenda
meetings, deputy mayor and I before the

1945
02:38:33,520 --> 02:38:39,200
council meeting to address what's going
to be on the agenda. Um and to make sure

1946
02:38:37,600 --> 02:38:44,560
that anything that maybe some of you all
want to bring to the agenda is on the

1947
02:38:40,560 --> 02:38:48,319
agenda. Um and you know what I I left
pretty frustrated because you know one

1948
02:38:46,479 --> 02:38:52,000
of the comments u Mr. Mr. Haley that you
made was that um you know these these

1949
02:38:50,640 --> 02:38:55,600
aren't children these are high schoolers
and they should know better. I go to the

1950
02:38:53,760 --> 02:38:58,880
work session and actually hear from the
school board members one one school

1951
02:38:57,600 --> 02:39:02,800
board member saying well they are high
schoolers they continue wanting to use

1952
02:39:00,800 --> 02:39:06,160
the sidewalk. Let me remind you all that
these are minors. You know they continue

1953
02:39:04,640 --> 02:39:10,960
being minors and they continue being the
children that we were elected to serve

1954
02:39:08,319 --> 02:39:15,600
and minors means vulnerable population.
So we should be acting as swiftly and as

1955
02:39:14,000 --> 02:39:23,280
urgent as such when something is
impacting vulnerable populations in

1956
02:39:18,560 --> 02:39:28,319
community. And so um this is this type
of perspective these are just you know

1957
02:39:25,840 --> 02:39:33,840
they're they're not children um children
do what they want is what leads to

1958
02:39:30,800 --> 02:39:37,840
mental health crisises. You saw families
here in the audience earlier. Well, if

1959
02:39:36,160 --> 02:39:43,120
we can actually establish better
mentorship, resourcing our families,

1960
02:39:40,560 --> 02:39:48,399
resourcing our students, I hope that we
can also prevent more mental cris more

1961
02:39:46,560 --> 02:39:53,280
mental crisises, injuries that are
landing us at the hospital and and

1962
02:39:51,040 --> 02:39:59,600
hopefully hopefully
completely eradicate

1963
02:39:56,640 --> 02:40:03,520
children dying by suicide. So I I
challenge every single one of us to not

1964
02:40:01,600 --> 02:40:07,040
just say they are ch they you know
they're they're whatever children will

1965
02:40:04,960 --> 02:40:13,359
do what they do do. We are adults that
were tasked with protecting youth and we

1966
02:40:11,120 --> 02:40:17,040
should all be expected to act
accordingly because that's what we were

1967
02:40:15,439 --> 02:40:22,399
elected to serve. So what happens at the
Sunnyside School District is very much

1968
02:40:19,200 --> 02:40:28,640
my problem because those families were
who elected me to be here on this DAS

1969
02:40:25,600 --> 02:40:37,120
and and to continue advocating for them.
Now um I'm going to um ask for y'all's

1970
02:40:35,040 --> 02:40:41,120
backing because we go back to trust and
I believe that trust um uh the

1971
02:40:39,680 --> 02:40:44,640
foundation of trust is is open
communication. Open communication

1972
02:40:43,040 --> 02:40:50,800
two-way street. I think that's not what
we're getting enough of. So, um, uh,

1973
02:40:48,240 --> 02:40:54,080
Elizabeth Alba was doing this. Uh, Mike
Gonzalez was doing this. He was

1974
02:40:52,319 --> 02:40:59,040
reporting out, they were all reporting
out every week, um, this as city

1975
02:40:56,319 --> 02:41:02,720
managers what was happening throughout
the week. Um, we haven't been getting

1976
02:41:00,720 --> 02:41:06,720
that from the interim city manager. So I
I would like and I hope that maybe

1977
02:41:04,640 --> 02:41:10,160
there's a consensus here for the interim
city manager to provide a report just

1978
02:41:08,479 --> 02:41:14,240
like department has provided a report to
us of what's going on um throughout the

1979
02:41:12,720 --> 02:41:18,399
city, what projects are being worked on,
what's not being worked on, what's

1980
02:41:15,920 --> 02:41:22,560
troubling, what we need to work on as a
council to make sure that we're we're

1981
02:41:20,319 --> 02:41:26,880
taking care of it. So, um I would like
to direct the city manager to make sure

1982
02:41:24,800 --> 02:41:30,479
that he is doing a report out every week
just like department heads are reporting

1983
02:41:28,560 --> 02:41:35,840
out every week. So, we are all in the
know of what's happening. Um so, I can

1984
02:41:33,840 --> 02:41:39,000
put a motion on the table or this can be
a consensus.

1985
02:41:40,319 --> 02:41:43,479
I agree.

1986
02:41:44,800 --> 02:41:51,080
Anybody else?
I agree.

1987
02:41:51,120 --> 02:41:54,359
I agree.

1988
02:41:54,479 --> 02:42:01,840
» Yep.
Any

1989
02:41:59,120 --> 02:42:08,720
» I uh would like to tell you a little bit
about what I witnessed. Um as we talked

1990
02:42:05,920 --> 02:42:14,240
several times uh earlier about flashing
lights, a crossing thing there. Um when

1991
02:42:11,520 --> 02:42:21,920
this happened, I went directly to his
office. He was on the phone

1992
02:42:17,680 --> 02:42:28,160
already talking to the state about what
is required so we could figure out how

1993
02:42:24,880 --> 02:42:33,600
to get through this. I went to public
works and talked to a couple of them

1994
02:42:31,359 --> 02:42:38,640
down there and that both of those
crosswalks that are not on the corner

1995
02:42:36,319 --> 02:42:42,720
from 16th over the next two crosswalks
were abandoned.

1996
02:42:40,800 --> 02:42:47,920
They took the paint off, they tarred
over it and that's worn down. And so now

1997
02:42:44,720 --> 02:42:54,160
you have a faint view of a crosswalk. I
have 20 plus years in almost 25. I'm

1998
02:42:51,920 --> 02:43:01,520
sure that uh my friend over there number
11 would back me up on saying that they

1999
02:42:57,760 --> 02:43:06,319
don't obey when you tell them you cannot
walk across the tracks and go to

2000
02:43:03,120 --> 02:43:12,399
McDonald's. They don't obey. You're just
a teacher. I'll go do what I want. I

2001
02:43:09,920 --> 02:43:18,880
appreciate the urgency of it. you took
two days to get back to me. And I just

2002
02:43:16,399 --> 02:43:23,920
thought,
well, what do we do now? I mean, it's

2003
02:43:20,880 --> 02:43:27,920
like we I don't think that we have a
responsibility

2004
02:43:25,680 --> 02:43:32,080
to educate people's children on how to
cross the street. When I was a little

2005
02:43:30,160 --> 02:43:35,520
kid, my dad grabbed my hand and said,
"I'm going to show you how you cross a

2006
02:43:33,840 --> 02:43:40,720
street."
>> So, there's a lot of people involved in

2007
02:43:38,240 --> 02:43:45,040
this and a lot of situations involved in
this. And [clears throat] I don't think

2008
02:43:42,479 --> 02:43:49,040
the light should be shed on the city.
And I don't think the light should be

2009
02:43:46,399 --> 02:43:53,200
shi shed on the school district other
than, hey, here's an idea. Let's all

2010
02:43:51,120 --> 02:43:57,120
work together and see if we can make the
environment a little better so they

2011
02:43:54,800 --> 02:44:01,760
understand you can't you can't jump the
fence right there and then go running

2012
02:43:59,040 --> 02:44:08,160
across the street without looking.
Things like that happened all the time.

2013
02:44:05,200 --> 02:44:15,359
and losing kids to suicide
that really hurts because I lost a few

2014
02:44:10,880 --> 02:44:21,279
in 20ome years and it really hurts. So
there is the drive to to fix this but at

2015
02:44:18,800 --> 02:44:26,080
the same time I don't think we can
really point the finger at anybody that

2016
02:44:23,439 --> 02:44:31,040
that this happened because accidents
happen. Somebody didn't see this,

2017
02:44:28,399 --> 02:44:35,600
somebody looked that way and I was sorry
to hear it. Go ahead, counselor uh

2018
02:44:33,520 --> 02:44:39,200
Chavez, and then we'll wrap this up.
>> You know, I'm not I'm not here to either

2019
02:44:37,279 --> 02:44:43,840
point fingers, but you know, as a
parent, last year I was taking my

2020
02:44:40,960 --> 02:44:49,520
daughter to school. I would drop off in
front of that paint, in front of that

2021
02:44:47,120 --> 02:44:54,399
crosswalk because I never knew it was
not a crosswalk. It had paint. It was a

2022
02:44:52,160 --> 02:44:57,680
crosswalk. That's what I saw. And every
year you every time I would take my

2023
02:44:55,680 --> 02:45:01,600
daughter, I would park right there, give
her a hug, give her a kiss, have a good

2024
02:44:59,200 --> 02:45:07,040
day. We will see you. To this day, after
this happened, I found out that that was

2025
02:45:03,600 --> 02:45:10,080
not a crosswalk. You walk over there. I
went with that gentleman yesterday on

2026
02:45:08,720 --> 02:45:16,640
Monday. He goes, "That looks like a
crosswalk to me, too." So, it's not that

2027
02:45:14,240 --> 02:45:20,240
we're pointing fingers, but a lot of us
are I didn't know about it.

2028
02:45:18,479 --> 02:45:24,080
» Was a crosswalk for many years and then
>> Exactly. And so that's what we're that's

2029
02:45:22,399 --> 02:45:28,479
the thing about the school needs to at
least educate or remove it to make it

2030
02:45:26,640 --> 02:45:33,840
for people to know that it's not a
crosswalk.

2031
02:45:30,560 --> 02:45:39,040
That's just my take on it.
>> I uh gave you the uh timetable of events

2032
02:45:37,040 --> 02:45:41,439
that happened that uh that are being
addressed.

2033
02:45:39,760 --> 02:45:44,720
» Yeah. And I think you know going back to
your point, he was on the phone. How

2034
02:45:42,960 --> 02:45:48,800
come we all don't didn't know about it?
>> Oh, I could defend that. You know,

2035
02:45:47,200 --> 02:45:53,439
whenever Mr. Haley is being brought up.
I can say, you know what, this he was on

2036
02:45:50,640 --> 02:45:57,279
the phone with X Y Z person and it's
getting taken care of. We're doing the

2037
02:45:55,040 --> 02:46:01,680
most that we can. I can't say that we're
saving everybody, but we can aspire to

2038
02:45:59,760 --> 02:46:04,720
that. We can aspire to that. And the
responsibility does fall on the adults.

2039
02:46:03,279 --> 02:46:09,040
So, I would challenge that. It does fall
on the adults. Um, that's why we need

2040
02:46:07,200 --> 02:46:12,399
the school district at the table. That's
why we're going to come together and

2041
02:46:10,080 --> 02:46:16,800
have a conversation because it it will
take both entities and actually more

2042
02:46:14,399 --> 02:46:21,520
entities to make sure that we figure out
what's best moving forward so they can

2043
02:46:20,319 --> 02:46:24,560
take care of what they need to take care
of. We take care of what need we need to

2044
02:46:23,120 --> 02:46:29,680
take care of and then we come together
and figure out where you know the those

2045
02:46:26,720 --> 02:46:35,120
intersections lie within our scope of
work.

2046
02:46:32,080 --> 02:46:40,720
» Okay. I'd like to give you my timetable
since I've been part of this discussion.

2047
02:46:38,240 --> 02:46:46,560
Uh September 11th is a Friday and I
don't work Fridays. So on September 14th

2048
02:46:44,319 --> 02:46:51,279
is the first I heard about it. I went
out there and did a visual inspection of

2049
02:46:48,319 --> 02:46:55,600
every crosswalk in the city of Sunnyside
around all the schools. Saw that they

2050
02:46:53,520 --> 02:47:01,760
were all marked,
all located. Uh, not only is there an

2051
02:46:59,279 --> 02:47:07,120
alert sign that says a crosswalk ahead,
but there's also a a pointer to the

2052
02:47:04,319 --> 02:47:14,399
actual crosswalk
on um uh so then my response back was

2053
02:47:12,560 --> 02:47:18,080
under compliance with our existing
crosswalks.

2054
02:47:15,920 --> 02:47:23,120
Uh then it was identified that this is a
faded location. And just walking out

2055
02:47:20,800 --> 02:47:29,600
there, I could tell that there was a
movement of this because

2056
02:47:26,080 --> 02:47:35,680
there the the crosswalks that were
previously pointing at the driveway for

2057
02:47:31,840 --> 02:47:40,000
the parking lot clearly were abandoned
and one was moved one direction and the

2058
02:47:37,920 --> 02:47:46,319
other was moved another direction. And
again, signs pointing to those

2059
02:47:43,120 --> 02:47:51,840
locations. So then I called Ryan Maxwell
and said, "This used to be a sidewalk

2060
02:47:49,439 --> 02:47:57,840
here. What's the status?" and he said,
"Well, in 2010 when we opened up this

2061
02:47:55,040 --> 02:48:01,359
school, uh, we realized that the
congestion at that location with people

2062
02:47:59,760 --> 02:48:07,439
coming and going in and out of the
parking lot

2063
02:48:03,920 --> 02:48:12,800
and people driving up and down Edison
and then somebody trying to use that

2064
02:48:09,600 --> 02:48:19,920
crosswalk into at the location of the
parking lot was unsafe. So, we abandoned

2065
02:48:16,800 --> 02:48:24,319
and moved it." And I said, "Okay." Okay.
So, I sent an email saying this is a

2066
02:48:22,080 --> 02:48:29,920
school district problem
and instructed Hector, so this is on a

2067
02:48:27,920 --> 02:48:35,439
Wednesday
the 16th.

2068
02:48:32,000 --> 02:48:41,279
So, two days after I heard about it, I
instructed Hector to send our crews out

2069
02:48:38,240 --> 02:48:45,120
there to cover up the sidewalk because
at least we could do that because we we

2070
02:48:43,600 --> 02:48:49,520
couldn't put a sidewalk there because
we'd have to put signage. And again,

2071
02:48:46,880 --> 02:48:54,240
that was already identified as a traffic
location.

2072
02:48:51,120 --> 02:48:59,120
And I said it was a schoolboard problem.
The crews were out there Thursday

2073
02:48:56,000 --> 02:49:04,960
morning covering up the sidewalk. Their
machine broke down Thursday morning and

2074
02:49:02,640 --> 02:49:08,960
they said, "Well, we're going to have to
get it fixed." So they fixed it on

2075
02:49:06,640 --> 02:49:14,560
Friday with the full intention of being
there Monday morning

2076
02:49:11,760 --> 02:49:18,479
to finish the job, which is what they
were out there first thing Monday

2077
02:49:16,240 --> 02:49:22,240
morning without any instructions. They
were planning on covering it up, not

2078
02:49:20,160 --> 02:49:29,279
even knowing that previously earlier
that morning an accident had happened.

2079
02:49:24,880 --> 02:49:34,960
And so every action was taken on my part
in a timely fashion. To say that I did

2080
02:49:32,000 --> 02:49:41,680
nothing is really inaccurate because I
was communicating with staff that

2081
02:49:38,960 --> 02:49:45,840
this is a previous crosswalk location
clearly has been abandoned. Maxwell, why

2082
02:49:44,080 --> 02:49:50,240
has it been abandoned? Because it's a
traffic hazard. Okay, let's get it

2083
02:49:48,000 --> 02:49:54,319
covered up. Let the school board decide
what they want to do with labeling their

2084
02:49:52,399 --> 02:49:59,439
sidewalks. Cuz you couldn't put a
crosswalk at the entrance to the school

2085
02:49:56,960 --> 02:50:04,399
parking lot. You couldn't put it there.
So they had moved it previously and this

2086
02:50:02,479 --> 02:50:09,600
is a schoolboard problem and that was my
last communications with the council

2087
02:50:06,080 --> 02:50:13,040
members. It's a schoolboard problem and
Leticia I told you we had street crews

2088
02:50:11,840 --> 02:50:17,279
that were going to take care of the
issue and they were out there Thursday

2089
02:50:15,200 --> 02:50:22,319
morning taking care of the issue.
Unfortunately their equipment broke down

2090
02:50:20,479 --> 02:50:24,800
and they couldn't get back to it till
Monday.

2091
02:50:23,279 --> 02:50:30,319
» What were you guys using for equipment
to fix that?

2092
02:50:27,120 --> 02:50:35,520
We're using tar uh to uh get that
cleaned up. Obviously, it's a a seal

2093
02:50:33,680 --> 02:50:38,399
coat that we have that we use for uh
seal coating.

2094
02:50:36,560 --> 02:50:41,920
» Was it covering up all the white sp the
the white um the crosswalk? Was it

2095
02:50:41,200 --> 02:50:45,520
covering it
>> as what I could tell? Yes, it was.

2096
02:50:44,160 --> 02:50:48,800
» I went out there Thursday, took a
picture and it wasn't done.

2097
02:50:47,040 --> 02:50:52,479
» Well, on Thursday, it wasn't completed.
There was a portion that was completed

2098
02:50:50,560 --> 02:50:56,240
and I have a picture showing that it was
completed. a portion was and that is at

2099
02:50:54,800 --> 02:51:00,880
the point where their equipment broke
down. I can even bring it up here on the

2100
02:50:59,200 --> 02:51:04,880
computer to show you that a half of it
was done and the equipment broke down

2101
02:51:03,279 --> 02:51:07,880
and so they couldn't finish the other
half.

2102
02:51:10,080 --> 02:51:16,000
» Now, the second thing I'd like to
address is there anybody that thinks I'm

2103
02:51:14,319 --> 02:51:20,960
sitting on my hands here and not doing
anything regarding city activities? I

2104
02:51:19,359 --> 02:51:24,479
mean, I brought a whole list of things
I'm working on. If you want me to just

2105
02:51:22,399 --> 02:51:30,080
keep on reinforcing that list, I'd be
happy to do that. But there's a lot of

2106
02:51:26,240 --> 02:51:33,840
things I have been working on and
responding to. And I personally go out

2107
02:51:32,240 --> 02:51:40,240
when I hear something, I personally go
out and check on it to to validate how

2108
02:51:37,760 --> 02:51:44,880
accurate it is. And that's why I brought
back, hey, we're in compliance with

2109
02:51:42,160 --> 02:51:48,560
crosswalk locations. And Maxwell told me
that they moved it because it was

2110
02:51:46,640 --> 02:51:51,920
unsafe. I don't know what more I could
have done. Yeah, I know what you could

2111
02:51:51,520 --> 02:51:56,560
go ahead.
>> I I do appreciate you you you doing what

2112
02:51:54,240 --> 02:52:00,720
you can, but I've also heard the
comments out there in the community

2113
02:51:57,920 --> 02:52:05,040
where you say, "I'm just a a temporary
guy. I'm my time is here. You know, it's

2114
02:52:03,439 --> 02:52:07,520
I'm gone in October. I'm gone in
November." I don't think that should be

2115
02:52:07,040 --> 02:52:12,000
the message.
>> No. Uh George, I want to challenge that.

2116
02:52:09,439 --> 02:52:14,080
I have never said I've said I'm in
>> Well,

2117
02:52:12,640 --> 02:52:18,479
» I've never said that. I'm just sitting
in a chair. I've never said that. those

2118
02:52:16,800 --> 02:52:22,479
and and and there was just just one
person. It was a few people that said,

2119
02:52:20,319 --> 02:52:27,040
you know, when when the comments that we
get from the interim city manager is

2120
02:52:24,720 --> 02:52:32,479
just that that he's just an inrum and
that he's leaving it up to the new guy.

2121
02:52:30,160 --> 02:52:35,200
» There is nothing I'm leaving up to the
new guy.

2122
02:52:33,200 --> 02:52:38,880
» I I have heard that from
>> Yeah. But see, but but you see, have you

2123
02:52:37,520 --> 02:52:41,920
heard [clears throat] it from any staff?
Staff, do you think that I'm sitting in

2124
02:52:40,720 --> 02:52:45,359
my hands?
>> I'm not always I don't have all the

2125
02:52:44,160 --> 02:52:47,600
» But that's where who you should hear
from. That's you who you should hear it

2126
02:52:46,960 --> 02:52:51,439
from.
>> He's the first one in the office. He's

2127
02:52:49,359 --> 02:52:55,439
the last one to leave. He's addressed
everything up and down within the

2128
02:52:53,359 --> 02:53:00,800
office. He goes he talks to each one of
us. He makes sure he gets the correct

2129
02:52:57,520 --> 02:53:05,920
updates. I
Yeah. Yeah. Good. Well, it is important

2130
02:53:03,120 --> 02:53:10,160
and I I I I um I'm I'm going to second
counselor Galvan on this one because it

2131
02:53:07,920 --> 02:53:15,200
is important that you know the community
pays y your checks. The community

2132
02:53:12,880 --> 02:53:20,399
elected us to be here. Um, so it is
important to hear first from community.

2133
02:53:17,279 --> 02:53:23,760
Um, the community pays your salary. Um,
so it is important to hear from

2134
02:53:21,760 --> 02:53:28,319
community and I'm glad that he's working
out for you all. Um, but I I have to

2135
02:53:26,720 --> 02:53:32,399
second what councelor Gvans said because
I have heard from many many people. Um,

2136
02:53:30,399 --> 02:53:34,479
» how many is many many people? I mean I
don't

2137
02:53:33,120 --> 02:53:37,439
» probably a good five.
>> I don't engage.

2138
02:53:35,520 --> 02:53:40,000
» We need to maintain the quorum. I think
it's

2139
02:53:37,840 --> 02:53:45,200
» I don't engage with five me people in
the commission. Well, um I have I'm I'm

2140
02:53:41,600 --> 02:53:48,720
I'm speaking. So, you know, it I was I
you know, a council member brought up a

2141
02:53:46,880 --> 02:53:53,760
a concern about these comments being
brought up and I think um you know, I

2142
02:53:51,279 --> 02:53:57,439
have also heard that myself and I don't
know if councelor Galwan and I speak to

2143
02:53:55,680 --> 02:54:01,600
the same people, but I have heard it
myself um as well. And um you know, I

2144
02:54:00,080 --> 02:54:07,439
think it's important that while you're
here um you you [clears throat] are

2145
02:54:04,000 --> 02:54:11,200
investing the time and um into making
sure that we understand what it is

2146
02:54:09,520 --> 02:54:15,760
you're doing. I'm glad staff understands
because they are your employees so they

2147
02:54:13,359 --> 02:54:20,479
should understand what you're doing. Um
I didn't know that you were out there

2148
02:54:17,840 --> 02:54:24,000
calling whoever Tom Dolan witnessed you
calling. I I don't have all the time to

2149
02:54:22,000 --> 02:54:28,640
be at city hall as a council member. I
also try to refrain from going into city

2150
02:54:26,800 --> 02:54:34,399
hall because it is not within my job
scope. It is not within the RCW for me

2151
02:54:30,399 --> 02:54:39,279
to be um in engaging too much with with
staff members. Um so so I don't find

2152
02:54:37,120 --> 02:54:44,399
myself as often. So I might not know as
much as Tom Dolan does, but um but but I

2153
02:54:42,319 --> 02:54:48,640
do ask that you do report out. We think
we had a consensus of from council

2154
02:54:46,319 --> 02:54:52,800
members that you do report out. So we
all understand what is happening and you

2155
02:54:50,800 --> 02:54:56,640
are taking care of. So if somebody ever
approaches us and says this isn't

2156
02:54:54,479 --> 02:55:01,840
getting done, we can say, you know what,
he's getting people to it. I couldn't

2157
02:54:59,120 --> 02:55:06,160
have said that because I had no idea.
The the email shut off at one time and

2158
02:55:04,399 --> 02:55:10,399
then I had no idea what was going on.
Um, I'm I'm going to go ahead and move

2159
02:55:08,399 --> 02:55:14,800
us um because we can be here and we're
going to hit the third hour and we still

2160
02:55:12,560 --> 02:55:19,680
have to go into executive session. Um,
thank you for reminding us to to to keep

2161
02:55:17,359 --> 02:55:22,479
the quorum. Um, but you know, if if I'm
being challenged, I'm going to challenge

2162
02:55:21,200 --> 02:55:27,279
challenge back and
>> we we do have um one only employee and

2163
02:55:24,880 --> 02:55:29,359
that is the interim city manager. Um,
I'm going to go ahead and just move us

2164
02:55:28,880 --> 02:55:36,000
along. I'd
>> like to have one quick uh response very

2165
02:55:32,960 --> 02:55:41,439
quick. I'm You keep talking about staff
and I'm I can remember sitting here and

2166
02:55:38,880 --> 02:55:45,520
not seeing all these new faces. I mean,
I went down to city hall and I didn't

2167
02:55:43,040 --> 02:55:52,080
see anybody in there and now we have a
staff to actually talk to and I think

2168
02:55:48,479 --> 02:55:56,479
that uh that's been done by him. So, we
got to give him a little credit. Um, I'm

2169
02:55:54,880 --> 02:56:02,080
surprised
with this response because I I get down

2170
02:56:00,160 --> 02:56:06,560
there and I see all these new faces in
the building and none of them there's a

2171
02:56:04,560 --> 02:56:11,520
lot of them not here tonight, but
there's uh people in place and

2172
02:56:09,120 --> 02:56:15,359
assistance to help them. And that didn't
just happen. That happened because his

2173
02:56:13,920 --> 02:56:19,600
whole desk is covered with these
thousand papers and I walk in there and

2174
02:56:17,680 --> 02:56:23,200
talk to him anyway because he didn't
close his door. if he doesn't close the

2175
02:56:22,160 --> 02:56:27,439
door, I'm going to walk in there and
take his time for a little bit because I

2176
02:56:24,720 --> 02:56:31,920
need to know things. And so, yeah, I do
go down and talk to him. If I'm out of

2177
02:56:29,200 --> 02:56:37,200
my lane, just let me know because I keep
seeing that and I think that, wow, I'm

2178
02:56:34,240 --> 02:56:42,000
not the only one out of my lane.
That's all I have. I got something to

2179
02:56:39,840 --> 02:56:47,600
say real quick and I'd like to apologize
to you on my behalf, on me, but not

2180
02:56:45,680 --> 02:56:52,000
answering you correctly and not
answering getting back to you as soon as

2181
02:56:48,880 --> 02:56:58,000
I can. So, I apologize to you. I will do
better to make sure. The import that you

2182
02:56:54,800 --> 02:57:05,680
have is my import also. Uh, Mr. Haley's
been really great. He's been a good

2183
02:57:00,800 --> 02:57:10,960
leader to us. Um, I can't say much more,
but I appreciate him as I appreciated

2184
02:57:08,479 --> 02:57:17,359
all appreciate all everybody here. I
appreciated Jim Bridges when he was

2185
02:57:12,960 --> 02:57:20,640
here. So, I thank you and I apologize to
you, mayor. No,

2186
02:57:18,479 --> 02:57:26,319
» no, no, no, no. Allow me to apologize
because you did reach out. I did get

2187
02:57:23,840 --> 02:57:31,040
back to you. I did not give you a a
time. I will make sure that I will be

2188
02:57:28,399 --> 02:57:35,840
doing better and I will make sure that I
give you a time and date, a drop dead

2189
02:57:33,439 --> 02:57:40,080
time and date when I will be making sure
stuff get done. So, please accept my

2190
02:57:38,240 --> 02:57:43,680
apologies. Again, I apologize to you. I
want to put on the record you did come

2191
02:57:41,840 --> 02:57:46,800
out and reach out to us.
>> Yeah. No, thank you, Hector. Thank you.

2192
02:57:45,439 --> 02:57:51,200
And then, you know, at the end of the
day, it all follows funnels through

2193
02:57:48,319 --> 02:57:55,760
through this way as well. So, I think we
were all on the same page with how we

2194
02:57:52,800 --> 02:57:58,800
move along. But I appreciate that. Um,
I'm going to move us along to upcoming

2195
02:57:57,359 --> 02:58:03,200
council meetings. The next one's going
to be on Wednesday, October 7th, which

2196
02:58:01,040 --> 02:58:06,560
is a study session, and then followed by
Wednesday, October 14th, was which is a

2197
02:58:05,120 --> 02:58:10,960
regular meeting. Wednesday, October
28th, which is a regular meeting. Um,

2198
02:58:09,040 --> 02:58:15,600
and then that concludes the month of
October. Um, I'm going to go ahead and

2199
02:58:13,680 --> 02:58:20,760
toss this over to you for city manager
reports and then before we move into

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executive session,

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» I'm happy to uh give an update on
anything. Uh, Jafet, how are we doing?

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All I have to say is that Pat's created
the best work environment I've had since

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02:58:40,399 --> 02:58:47,680
I've been in Sunny's head. And to watch
him bered like that, I I don't

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02:58:44,560 --> 02:58:51,399
appreciate it. I'm I have stuff I'm
working on, but

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02:58:51,600 --> 02:58:58,560
I I don't appreciate seeing him take
that. And that's all I can see right

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02:58:57,040 --> 02:59:02,800
now.
>> I'm going to challenge that. There's not

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02:59:00,319 --> 02:59:09,760
a berating. It's it's accountability
because he is our only employee and I we

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02:59:06,000 --> 02:59:14,479
do expect communication and when we're
asking for communication

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02:59:11,840 --> 02:59:20,240
um it's it's pretty clear what we're
asking for. Um our you know the last

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city manager was also really berated and
but I'm not going to go there. Um

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» any more uh Hector that you have?
>> Uh just wanted to give you guys an

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02:59:33,040 --> 02:59:42,399
update on the Silver Dollar Motel. Um I
know Mr. Chavez wanted the pictures. I

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02:59:38,880 --> 02:59:47,040
will see if if I can share them somehow
someway. Um don't want to take up more

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02:59:45,359 --> 02:59:51,760
time. I know we're I only got two
minutes and I don't I can talk but uh so

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we do have a fence around it. It is
boarded up. Uh we are talking with

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landmark uh land landmark um who's
working with us about the uh

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Silverstone. Uh it is now secured. Um we
do have a fence on it. Um there is no

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trespassing signs on it and um we will
continue to work with them uh to make

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that a cleaner place. So um
>> quick question, Hector.

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» Yes, sir.
>> So the people that were there, they're

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no longer there,
>> correct? Were they offered anything to

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be able to move around? Uh, so maybe
going up to Yakma for Camp Hope or any

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03:00:27,920 --> 03:00:32,080
other services?
>> I I believe they was prior to prior to

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03:00:31,200 --> 03:00:35,439
us. They
>> they've been offered that for 6 months

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repeatedly. That's what Yakima County
Human Services did down here for 6

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03:00:37,040 --> 03:00:41,840
months was try to work with them and I
think they got almost every family

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03:00:39,760 --> 03:00:44,399
placed except two or three that wouldn't
uh accept help and that was the two or

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03:00:44,080 --> 03:00:47,040
three.
>> If you see any of them and they send

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03:00:45,680 --> 03:00:50,240
them send them through comprehensive,
we'll we got some some resources for

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03:00:48,960 --> 03:00:54,560
them to be able to house them. my
understanding that uh the one family

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03:00:52,640 --> 03:00:56,560
DSHS maybe found a place for him. Okay.
Or or helped him with an apartment or

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03:00:55,920 --> 03:01:00,319
something to that.
>> I'm putting all these notes of all the

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03:00:58,399 --> 03:01:03,520
meetings that I got coming up. Um I know
that you just emailed me and Hector

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03:01:02,000 --> 03:01:09,439
emailed me. So, I'm adding everything
over to my calendar. So, I have that cuz

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03:01:06,720 --> 03:01:11,840
I, you know, like I said, I'm trying to
hold myself accountable to making sure

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03:01:10,800 --> 03:01:16,080
that I'm attending some of these
meetings, making sure that we we follow

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03:01:13,680 --> 03:01:20,399
through with the meetings. And so, but
thank you for the for that. I appreciate

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03:01:18,640 --> 03:01:25,040
um we're getting that. Hopefully the
city is

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03:01:22,319 --> 03:01:27,760
um Oh, but document let's document.
Remember we talked about this. Let's

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document everything that we do when we
send over to the to the

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03:01:31,760 --> 03:01:38,160
um to the bank. So if it ever comes
back, we have some documentation that

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03:01:36,080 --> 03:01:43,720
we've asked them what to do. Um I think
our city attorney can agree with me in

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03:01:40,319 --> 03:01:43,720
regards to that.

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03:01:43,920 --> 03:01:52,000
Madame Mayor and councelor, we're
working directly with Hector and the

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03:01:49,040 --> 03:01:55,439
chief on the forms and the documentation
and all of that. So, yes.

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03:01:54,000 --> 03:01:58,720
» Thank you guys. Appreciate it. I do
appreciate you guys working on that cuz

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03:01:56,960 --> 03:02:02,800
that's something that's been an isore
for our community and I think that

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03:02:00,960 --> 03:02:07,120
hopefully we can get get that put behind
us.

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03:02:03,279 --> 03:02:10,880
» Yes. Now, you will see some uh
uh material not materials, personal

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03:02:09,439 --> 03:02:15,840
items out there in front and the
U-shape. Um that is for them to come

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03:02:13,120 --> 03:02:17,760
back and pick it up. Um we did say I
think a week

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03:02:17,120 --> 03:02:20,720
» I wasn't there.
>> I believe it's a week. He wasn't it

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03:02:19,359 --> 03:02:24,399
wasn't there. I think Cory and I were
talking about it and we and with the

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03:02:22,319 --> 03:02:28,560
sheriffs and we're giving them a week to
come back get their personal items and

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03:02:26,479 --> 03:02:32,640
then Landmark is going to be taking it
all away. They're they're they took the

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03:02:30,479 --> 03:02:36,560
lead on it. Um we're we let them know
that we're here to help them at anyway.

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03:02:34,800 --> 03:02:40,479
Um but like I said right now we do have
the fencing up. Um they did board up

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03:02:38,800 --> 03:02:46,960
today. They'll be back tomorrow to board
up um on the east side.

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03:02:42,240 --> 03:02:50,720
» Are you doing a like a special uh um in
kind of special invoices to know how

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03:02:48,560 --> 03:02:54,800
much we're spending as a city into what
we're putting into that that hotel? So

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03:02:52,640 --> 03:02:56,800
when we later do bill, we have all that.
>> Yes, sir.

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03:02:55,279 --> 03:02:59,760
» Okay.
>> Council, I just want to remind you that

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03:02:58,160 --> 03:03:03,439
we've hit the third hour. So if we can
just allow them to and if we have any

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03:03:01,600 --> 03:03:07,600
other f No, you're fine. Any follow-up
questions, we can direct those through

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03:03:04,880 --> 03:03:11,920
the city manager.
Jessica,

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03:03:10,479 --> 03:03:15,279
» um, real quick, I sent out the public
safety committee email, so if we can get

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03:03:13,279 --> 03:03:18,160
that set up, so if we can respond. And
then third, Tuesday, the meeting at 4.

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03:03:16,960 --> 03:03:20,960
Do you have a location for that? I
believe on Tuesdays, they have court in

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03:03:19,680 --> 03:03:23,439
this room, so this room will not be
available.

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03:03:21,680 --> 03:03:30,880
» Believe the superintendent u mentioned
that um the exec um the admin building.

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03:03:28,160 --> 03:03:33,760
» Okay. All right. And then October 29th,
trunk or treats coming up, but we can

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03:03:32,240 --> 03:03:37,319
hit there's meetings between now and
then. So, thank you.

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03:03:39,359 --> 03:03:44,680
Nothing for me at this time.
>> Dang.

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03:03:45,040 --> 03:03:50,720
» Okay. So, do you all want to recess for
a couple m minutes before we move into

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03:03:49,520 --> 03:03:54,000
executive session?
>> Just Just move. It's already 9:03.

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03:03:53,040 --> 03:03:58,560
» Yeah. Let's move.
>> Let's move. Okay. Uh so now we will be

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03:03:56,399 --> 03:04:02,439
moving into executive session for 30
minutes pursuant to RCW4230.110

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03:04:02,800 --> 03:04:07,120
subsection G to evaluate the
qualifications of an applicant for

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03:04:05,680 --> 03:04:11,680
public employment or to review the
performance of a public employee. Also

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03:04:09,279 --> 03:04:14,800
RCW4230.110
subsection I to discuss with legal

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03:04:13,279 --> 03:04:18,319
counsel representing the agency matters
relating to agency enforcement actions

2282
03:04:16,880 --> 03:04:22,240
or to discuss with legal counsel
representing the agency litigation or

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03:04:19,920 --> 03:04:26,000
potential litigation to which the agency
the governing body or a member acting in

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03:04:23,920 --> 03:04:28,880
an official capacity is or likely to
become a party when public knowledge

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03:04:27,439 --> 03:04:33,760
regarding the discussion is likely to
result in an adverse legal or financial

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03:04:31,040 --> 03:04:37,880
consequence to the agency. We are now
asking for everybody to ex

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03:04:42,479 --> 03:04:49,359
Okay, we are back in session in regular
session. Um we have concluded our

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03:04:47,439 --> 03:04:55,439
executive session. There will be no
action to be taken tonight. Now, without

2289
03:04:52,960 --> 03:04:59,680
um any objection,
seeing none, hearing none, I will go

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03:04:57,520 --> 03:05:03,960
ahead and conclude our regular meeting
at 9:45 p.m.

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03:05:07,439 --> 03:05:10,640
Thank you guys.