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[5:01] My kids, my kids. My two mittels are as close as close can be, which leads to physical altercations, because they're that comfortable with each other.
[5:14] Well, as an only child, I would solve that with getting them a sweater that they've all kept it.
[5:19] I just let them go most of the time, my daughter went. She's a beast. She's a beast. She's not one of the best with me.
[5:25] Okay, well, just saying buy on sweaters how about magic sweaters and make them I'll make them wear them to the middle school
[5:36] One that says I'm I'm Wes's sister and I'm making his brother
[5:41] I like that,
[5:49] that's such a bad idea.
[5:51] Big pictures of each other.
[5:54] I don't know.
[6:32] I mean, I jumped on him, jumped off his coatails, but
[6:39] thank you.
[6:40] Thank you.
[10:02] No matter what you do, I'm not going to let you in, I'm going to let you in.
[10:08] Yeah, I can't make say a lot. And then we come to the loss. Good. I'm going to do the show, covering the wounded.
[10:13] Yeah, we're going to do the show.
[10:17] Right on. I don't want to say anything.
[10:21] Right on.
[10:23] I don't want to say anything.
[10:24] Okay. How you doing?
[10:26] No. I'm telling you that I'm fine.
[10:44] It's January 20th every year.
[10:58] I'll be around, just be in the other side.
[11:07] I'm just...
[11:08] I'm just using your two minutes under three.
[11:15] I'm calling you to the second.
[11:17] I'm calling you to the second.
[11:19] To the third.
[11:22] But for a couple of hours.
[11:24] I don't know.
[11:24] The North American is not.
[11:26] I just tell him, like, this is the beginning of the story.
[11:30] I don't know.
[11:32] I think it's five real.
[11:34] I think it's cool.
[11:36] I guess this step up the couch.
[11:39] The coaches got on it.
[12:10] I mean, the last thing I did is I was on an eight-ball.
[12:13] There's a lot of different things.
[12:14] She had me in a finger.
[12:15] There's always one year old that...
[12:18] Well, no.
[12:18] She's probably wouldn't be able to remember.
[12:21] She's literally crawls up and out of the door.
[12:23] Oh, oh, oh.
[12:24] And we still get her in, like, your dad goes out and helps you.
[12:27] Yeah.
[12:28] He'll lift her up and she gets the shrapnel.
[12:31] Oh, wow.
[12:31] There is super cute thing.
[12:32] Well, and you know it's all about that socialization.
[12:34] Yeah.
[12:34] Which is such a large part.
[12:35] It's so lovely.
[12:36] Oh, my God.
[12:37] It's just like...
[14:47] I don't want to talk about this.
[16:36] Hi, Brigitte, can you hear us? Yes, I can. Thank you.
[18:13] I think that we have to make it up a lot, right?
[18:18] If I'm so learned, and if you can't agree with one of that,
[18:22] but it's not always like anything else.
[18:25] You know, if you are, I think we'll have to,
[18:28] that's my own credit.
[18:31] So, no, anyway, we did not realize for a few minutes,
[18:35] but you know, back until next, we did not.
[21:57] Okay, good evening, everyone. It is 630. So I will call the Tuesday, January 20th meeting of the
[22:05] I
[22:09] did states of America, and you do the Republic for
[22:20] the role.
[22:20] Clerk, please call the roll.
[22:22] Councillor Lee Dean.
[22:23] Here.
[22:23] Councillor Anderson.
[22:25] Vice President Mothett.
[22:26] Councillor Sweeney.
[22:28] Councillor Elm.
[22:31] Councillor Ludwig.
[22:32] Here.
[22:32] Here.
[22:34] Councillor Johnson.
[22:35] President Grasky.
[22:36] We have a quarter.
[22:38] Item 4.1 is the approval of the January 6th,
[22:42] 2026 regular council meeting minutes.
[22:46] The motion is by Councilor Harris, second by Councilor Fennessey, is their discussion.
[22:50] Hearing none, all those in favor of policing, five by say and aye, those opposed say, no,
[22:54] motion carries.
[22:56] Item six, but one is report from Mayor Payne.
[22:59] Good evening again, Councilors.
[23:00] So obviously, the Superior Days is coming up very quickly now.
[23:04] Everything feels ready, everything feels done, and we've passed a number of critical deadlines,
[23:09] the most significant of which, probably for you, is the hotel block.
[23:13] Technically closed yesterday, so if you're planning to go and either haven't told us or haven't gotten a hotel room yet, even if you're not sure about that, double check with us after the meeting, it may not be too late to squeeze you in, but it's definitely time to solve that problem.
[23:30] Otherwise that is ready, and I look forward to seeing many of you there, it's looking like it's going to be a pretty exciting event after all.
[23:38] you're looking at maybe a slow year,
[23:40] but it's looking pretty interesting now.
[23:42] So that is all I have tonight,
[23:44] I have several other things on the agenda,
[23:45] though, so we'll get to those as they come up,
[23:47] including actually I'm very excited
[23:50] to announce the appointment of my appointment of dev Williams
[23:54] to the position of human resource director.
[23:55] I think most of you by this point know
[23:57] that our longtime human resource director,
[24:00] Kami Janigo, will be retiring on April, 2026,
[24:05] obviously making for a challenging recruitment position,
[24:08] their simply is nobody with cami Janako's qualifications and experiences.
[24:14] That said, I think she's done an outstanding job preparing our
[24:19] assistant human resource director, Deb Williams.
[24:22] For a long time, I've gotten the chance to work directly with Deb
[24:24] on another on a number of sensitive issues.
[24:27] So along with the items you see in the memo,
[24:29] I'm very pleased to recommend her for those reasons.
[24:33] So that's the clerk to read that.
[24:35] Item 6.2 is a recommendation to confirm.
[24:38] Doub Williams, the position of human resources director, effective April 6, 2026.
[24:45] Motion by Councilor Johnson, psych of my Councilor Grasky, is it a discussion of Councilor Herc?
[24:48] Yeah, let the record show I need to abstain from this vote.
[24:50] The record will reflect his Councilor Herc's abstention, any further discussion.
[24:57] Hearing none, all those in favor-placing the 5x.
[25:00] I say aye. Those are the polls say no. The motion carries. And congratulations to Deb Williams. She will not actually
[25:08] assume the role until the director, Janigo actually leaves. We will try to give her more recognition than just tonight.
[25:18] But until that time, I hope I can speak for all of you in congratulating her on a very successful career, and wish her the very best in retirement. And I hope you all get the chance to do that in person as well.
[25:32] Item 7.4 is the business of the licenses and fees committee with a meeting held on January
[25:37] 12. is there a report from the chair?
[25:42] I don't see license and fees.
[25:43] Oh sure.
[25:44] I'm sorry.
[25:45] They didn't have any business, but.
[25:51] Thank you.
[25:53] Item 7.5 is the business of the public safety committee with a meeting held on January 15.
[25:58] Is there a report from the chair?
[25:59] Just a quick report from last week's public safety meeting.
[26:04] Of course, we got updates from the police and fire departments.
[26:07] It's a
[26:12] little longer, Councilor Humpo.
[26:14] Okay, there was just some feedback, that's why I paused,
[26:17] but continue on the police department reported
[26:19] the strong progress towards full staffing
[26:21] and an almost entirely new command staff following
[26:24] recent promotions, emphasizing enhanced stability,
[26:28] headed and heading into this year.
[26:30] Updates also covered community engagement efforts
[26:32] and a new grid independent communication system
[26:35] we were discussing for backup to ensure operations
[26:38] can continue during emergencies.
[26:41] Crime data showed continued declines in property crimes, along with increased traffic enforcement
[26:46] to improve that roadway at safety.
[26:50] At the same time, domestic violence related calls had an uptick, prompting discussion about
[26:56] revisiting a victim support or prevention program for further review in the future.
[27:02] The fire department reported responding to more than 4,300 calls in 2025, along with
[27:07] training and community programs such as Toys for Tots, which served over 700 children in this holiday season,
[27:14] crews are preparing for our new electric fire engine.
[27:17] The train is going to begin in February as well as launching the advanced EMT program to strengthen the medical
[27:23] response capabilities.
[27:25] Updates were also provided on the North and Fire Station.
[27:29] There is also unsafe building enforcement with local business.
[27:34] Coordination with state agencies to improve firefighting for water access on the bridge as well.
[27:40] In new business, the committee also approved a two-way stop at Oaks Avenue in 19th Street.
[27:45] This is in response to citizens' concerns and accident history.
[27:50] The committee also discussed challenges with towing and disposing of large abandoned vehicles such as RVs and the junk that's included with it.
[28:00] I chose to hold that for further review and that's my report for the Public Safety Committee.
[28:07] What's your question for the chair?
[28:09] I will ask a clerk to read the ordinance.
[28:12] The recommendation is to approve an ordinance,
[28:14] I'm in the City Coach Chapter 112,
[28:16] Traffic Code, Schedule A, Stop, Section 3, 1, and 2 way stops to add two stop signs that
[28:21] Oaks Avenue in 19th Street.
[28:25] The motion is by Councilor Alms.
[28:26] Second by Councilor Anderson is their discussion.
[28:30] Hearing none, all those in favor please signify by saying aye.
[28:32] Those opposed say no, the motion carries.
[28:36] Item 8.1.1 is the business of the communications and information technology committee with the meeting held on January 15th.
[28:43] Is there a report from the chair?
[28:45] Yes.
[28:46] Busy meeting at the CIT this month.
[28:49] We focused on moving connects superior from the launch mode into a more growth phase orientation.
[28:57] And for the first time, the committee reviewed real operating data from the networks first
[29:02] months of service and used it to guide this future steps.
[29:06] The committee approved the 2020 six-connected period budget keeping residential prices stable
[29:11] while adding a new two-gay option, which is symmetrical.
[29:16] Commercial pricing was reduced to better match the market conditions and attract more business
[29:21] users with the gold increase in adoption and building density as in that work grows.
[29:27] The committee also recommended updates to wholesale agreements with the city's three internet
[29:32] providers.
[29:32] These changes allow the providers to offer new pricing and speed tiers without reopening the
[29:36] full contracts, keeping them competitive and aligned with the updated budget.
[29:41] Finally, the committee advanced phase two of the fiber build out recommending creamer
[29:45] service group as a construction contractor and continuing with my tech for the construction
[29:50] oversight phase two will nearly double the number of so locations served with a completion
[29:55] targeted for fall of 2026. So overall the meeting focused on real work.
[30:00] We'll build experience to refine pricing, update agreements, and move the next major expansion forward, position and
[30:06] connect superior for long term growth and sustainability. That's my update.
[30:12] That's the clerk to begin reading the recommendations.
[30:16] The first is to approve the updated, connect superior annual budget, including updating annual
[30:21] wholesale rates of existing services and heading the new services recommended.
[30:26] Motion's by council. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
[30:30] Hearing none, all those in favor of policing in the five by saying aye, those are pulsing
[30:34] no, the motion carries.
[30:36] Second item is to approve amendment 1 to the existing wholesale broadband service agreement
[30:40] for Jellousie Network LLCs to reflect rates and services available in 2020-26.
[30:48] The motions by Councilor Alms second by Councilor Ludwig, Councilor's Elm and Ludwig
[30:52] the three contracts are identical except for the ISP. Is that correct, Councilor L,
[31:03] right?
[31:03] The all three contracts are identical. Do you want to adopt these as a group? Yes.
[31:08] Okay, so your motion then is to approve item 8.1.2, 3 and 4. Councilor L, which is your
[31:17] second, the same. Okay, the motion then is by Councilor L, second by Councilor L, to approve
[31:21] all three amendments to those wholesale broadband service agreements.
[31:28] Discussion.
[31:30] Councillor Sweeney.
[31:33] Well, phase one is that from my, I know,
[31:37] which is geographic area, partially, right?
[31:41] So I think the geographic area is roughly
[31:44] if I indicated around the university, is that Thursday?
[31:48] Councillor Sweeney should probably direct your question to.
[31:50] I'll redirect them if you want to host a series of questions.
[31:53] Whatever, whatever the first phase is, the geographic area, how many potential customers are in that and how many have we,
[32:04] or has our wholesalers signed up to do business with? Do we know those two answers?
[32:11] If there's no objection, I'll call the broadband managers, definitely back and up to answer some of these.
[32:16] Put the questions.
[32:18] My understanding of the question is certainly the number of passings and phase one, then I assume also the upcoming phase two, and then existing take rates so far, or number of customers.
[32:34] You bet, so phase one, we passed about 860 passing, so that number has fluctuated a little bit as we discover more multi-drawing units in the area, right?
[32:45] that number has just expanded a little bit, right now we have 114 that are signed up in
[32:50] active. We have another about 10 that could be turned on at any time. So those were
[32:56] opportunities where we piped into a multi-dwelling unit. So those other folks can sign up
[33:01] at any time without us having to do another drop. And we have about 20 on our list right now for
[33:05] when it is not so stinking cold out.
[33:12] But if you can turn your mic on please close. My quick math
[33:15] thousand and it's around 15%. Correct. Okay, so you have faced, you don't know, you
[33:21] have an open up phase two yet, right? You're still working on that. That's right. So we were
[33:26] able to do a bit of an expansion right in the fall that added about another 200 and
[33:31] locations. So right now the network has about 1100 and end points. So we were able to
[33:39] do phase one in an extension. That is what is operational right now. So we are at about
[33:44] 10% take rate from July of 2025.
[33:48] So this was an afternoon.
[33:49] After an entire year, it was starting in July.
[33:52] Sure.
[33:53] Sure.
[33:53] Are you?
[33:54] Is that a good number?
[33:55] Disappointing number?
[33:56] A very ecstatic number.
[33:59] Super exciting number.
[34:01] Very, very exciting number.
[34:02] It is an excellent number in the amount of time that we've had the network open.
[34:06] The interest continues to grow, which is excellent as well and every reason to think
[34:12] that that number will continue to grow as the spring and summer come upon us.
[34:18] Come to Svini, I lost my ability to track a take rate as we have always understood it.
[34:24] Shortly after we did the extra ad on that she described partially because the take rates build over time.
[34:33] So you're going to the phase one has just been lit up and available for a longer period of time than that second phase.
[34:40] So at some point we're looking more at roll threats, but I haven't figured out how to calculate
[34:46] that.
[34:47] Okay, so phase two within this of a different geographic area, okay, you may, we don't have
[34:53] information on that, so phase one is flying geographic area, so around 10% yeah.
[35:05] Can you explain what you have a little bit more of what you just said there about how you lost the ability to track.
[35:11] Yeah, for the entire network, because the take rate for the initial neighborhood, the pilot
[35:20] neighborhood, is, as conscious we need to describe, it's higher than 10%, but that's, of course,
[35:25] been lit up for much longer than the whole network. It's been available, so there are 1100
[35:31] passings, 1100 people are potential customers in connect superior, of which you would say
[35:36] a hundred, a hundred, a hundred and a hundred, 20 depending on how you count. Well, for about
[35:42] 200 of those past scenes, they haven't had access to it until very recently. And so, you're
[35:49] going to have a higher take rate in your older parts of the network. The longer something
[35:54] has been available, the higher the take rate you're going to see. So, take rate for the
[35:58] whole network. I think it's better to look at the growth rate. Once we light up a network,
[36:04] how quickly are we acquiring customers in that neighborhood?
[36:08] Is it faster or slower than our other neighborhoods that we've lit up?
[36:13] And are we on pace to achieve an overall network take rate?
[36:19] Does that make sense? Does that make a little more sense?
[36:20] A little bit. I guess what doesn't make sense to me is we didn't lose the ability to track the
[36:28] take rate because it, I get what you're saying where it could be skewed where, you know,
[36:34] phase one is going to, is going to probably have a higher take rate than phase two, but
[36:39] that's, that's not always going to be the case. We could go into a neighborhood where it's
[36:43] phase three and it's got overwhelming support. So we, so we can't just say, well, we're going
[36:50] to ignore the take rates because we can't track it, but then if we have a super successful
[36:55] neighborhood, then all of a sudden that the take rate is, we can't track it, because the
[37:01] take rate, we can track it, you know, this is how many passons we have, this is so many people
[37:06] we have signed up and grant them, even if we want to just track it by the phase one, phase two,
[37:13] you know, all of that. I think the take rates, the biggest indication of success and
[37:20] and I think we absolutely have the ability to track it. So I mean, I don't think we lost the
[37:27] I think you've said 1100 passings, but Stephanie said 860, may I speak up at the club?
[37:37] Let's ask stuff I can first and then I'll come back to you.
[37:41] So the original phase one, right?
[37:43] That was year around 833-860, right?
[37:46] That's that one that has been adjusting.
[37:47] We were able to do an extension out to North End,
[37:49] and that added just over 200 passings, right?
[37:52] opened up this fall. Remember, we were having a hard time getting across the railroad. All of that. Yes. So once that lit, which again wasn't until November, that brought up
[38:02] brought us over about 1150. That's where we are. So when he describes that whole layering of take rates of the second those turned on right our base number went
[38:12] from 800 to over 1,000.
[38:14] So whoop, percentages changed really quickly.
[38:17] So if we were looking at just that,
[38:19] but we're all not looking at just that,
[38:21] we are taking into account that this is a layered approach.
[38:24] This is a neighborhood approach
[38:25] and that our numbers have to be looked at like that.
[38:28] And since we're able to do that,
[38:30] which we can, right, through our different tracking systems,
[38:32] we're very able to do that geographically.
[38:35] But there could be that moment of disheartening
[38:37] to go, golly, why did the take rate drop
[38:39] because we opened more opportunity
[38:41] and we have to give that time to then have those hookups come in as well.
[38:46] Yeah, and that's fair, because that would have been November of 25, is that correct?
[38:51] Yeah, just a few months ago.
[38:53] And at that point, even if somebody wanted to sign up with the ground,
[38:58] I don't know how long the ability to hook a home up has been,
[39:02] I assume we can hook any up right now, right?
[39:04] We certainly can, but it costs 40% more, and we run the risk of breaking things.
[39:10] Right? I am not in the mood to be near anybody's health with a drill in break anything in these sub-zero temperatures.
[39:18] However, two weeks ago we were talking, right? We were talking to the contractors like what happens if the weather holds.
[39:24] The weather holds, we can take more risks like that, but when it's like this, it's not conducive to be doing drops.
[39:31] It is conducive to making the list so we can get those drops done effectively when it's safe and economical to do so.
[39:38] So, even if we can't, so if we haven't been able to hook up any of that last, the last section yet, just because of the weather, it was just recently added on.
[39:46] Even if we take that out of the mix, the take rate then is probably about 15% or so from the 862 to the 114 that are signed up.
[39:58] Okay.
[40:00] What's the, I remember in the, in the, in the beginning when this was all conceptual, do you remember what the, the projected take rate was, I remember being like 30% for the first year and then 50, 60, 70% you know moving forward.
[40:15] Looking at a mature network. So I think that is one of those variables that maybe wasn't as presented as clearly as what is a mature network.
[40:25] So that can sometimes be a variable and it can be explained in different ways, but that is that is older than a year that is one that has has done multi expansions that has had time to get folks on when we have a mature network projections are looking at 40% 30 to 40 and then somewhere even as high as 80 which I look at with a cocked eyebrow, but the 30 to 40 extremely reasonable for our area and other places in municipal networks are getting those very high take rate.
[40:54] So I don't think we can look at them with, you know, complete
[40:57] skeptability, but really looking at 30 to 40 percent
[41:00] when we're more mature network.
[41:01] So that North End is not a mature network.
[41:04] Once North End has been built out for a couple of years.
[41:07] Yes, it's a mature network.
[41:08] We should expect a 40 percent take rate.
[41:11] That stays pretty stable.
[41:13] Even at like a 30, 40 percent take rate,
[41:17] this doesn't, that's not enough to cover the, the cost.
[41:22] Not at this spot.
[41:24] It was never going to be at this spot.
[41:26] It was always going to be after we had at least 4,000 passings.
[41:30] It was always going to be after more build-outs.
[41:34] That was in the feasibility study.
[41:35] This was to be built over 3 to 5 years.
[41:39] So there was some more to it than if you build it.
[41:43] It'll totally be done in, you know, it'll paper.
[41:45] That's not how it was going to be.
[41:47] It was very clearly the rest of the city built out in 3 to 5 years.
[41:51] Over that time we'd be looking at increased take rates over those as the as the network became mature and that is when those cost coverings would be coming
[42:02] And more really
[42:03] Okay, thank you
[42:06] Calstral
[42:07] No, I think manager you're back in and clear a fight a lot of those points. I just wanted to clarify
[42:13] Phase one was essentially 800 pass in phase one point five is the north end phase two which
[42:20] some are calling three perhaps, but is going to be done this fall, you know,
[42:25] essentially doubling. And so if you're looking at the percentages, you got to
[42:28] set off what people had access to signing up. And mind you, it was also new. There
[42:33] is maybe a few delays. You know, we did it. We were hoping to get people connected
[42:37] earlier. So we only really had a couple of months to get the take rate we did for
[42:41] the 800 passes. And I think it was really incredible what Stephanie has done
[42:46] Dan and her team. I think we should be proud of where we're at, but to look at it like we
[42:53] had this running for a full year that's just not the case. And when you add our winter conditions
[42:59] and trying to be economical about the installs, Stephanie said all this, I just wanted to make sure
[43:05] that phase one was university area, 800 roughly, and the additional 2,300 in the north end,
[43:14] And now we're doing the 1100 around this building, essentially.
[43:21] So expanding that and doubling the total that we have now.
[43:24] And so we're going to really be able to look at the sign-ups come this spring, I think,
[43:30] as well as when the fall comes, comes by.
[43:33] But Stephanie already said all that.
[43:34] I just wanted to bring further clarification.
[43:37] I was just wondering, and maybe this isn't the place to ask.
[43:41] but any worries about the impact of other
[43:44] fibrilines coming into the area?
[43:48] That's always a good question.
[43:50] And from the day that I started,
[43:52] which was that February of 2024,
[43:55] there have been many that have sent that email
[43:59] and connects the period,
[44:01] the only one that is digging.
[44:03] So there is always that
[44:07] on the horizon of what could be,
[44:09] I think that is very true and I think that what we can do is to continue moving forward,
[44:15] being efficient, getting the fiber to our citizens as quickly as we can because we're already
[44:21] pursuing it. So definitely we have some ISPs in town that are doing some other work,
[44:26] which is exciting. So the world continues to move as we are as well. But if you've noticed there
[44:32] are some around town that are working on different connections. So just because there's there's
[44:37] and fiber connections through superior for years.
[44:41] So that's not necessarily meaning that they are there to offer end user service.
[44:45] Sometimes it's just that connectivity piece of it.
[44:49] So those are things.
[44:50] Again, not ones that we can control what we can control and move forward with is getting
[44:55] actual residential and commercial services to the citizens.
[44:58] The competition is...
[45:00] Is inevitable. Every public network that I have ever looked at generally has a private fiber network
[45:07] alongside of it. It would be surprising to go many more years without another network competing with
[45:14] us. But to a certain degree, while that will always stress us out to a certain amount, it's
[45:21] still just better for the public. It's just more options than we just have to make sure we're
[45:25] best custody. My understanding is that the city's revenue is going to come from the whole
[45:32] sale. Okay, and I read in here where we reduce the whole sale price. Is that that
[45:38] fair to say yes? Okay. For commercial only, so for only a few of the package speeds,
[45:44] there is a reduction to meet more of a market rate that has been shown at the twin ports.
[45:49] So not all of them are reducing. It's just a few very specific ones.
[45:55] Okay, but you had a rate before whatever that rate was and you reduced it, right?
[46:01] Correct. So what was the percentage or what was the dollar value that you reduced it by?
[46:07] And that was because of the market conditions I assume, right?
[46:10] That is. Yes. So the original rates that we put for last year were based on that feasibility study.
[46:16] so Magellan provided a range that we could take a look at. So we decided to go with our first
[46:23] year. We had a 300 package for commercial enterprise that would be $50 wholesale, and we had one
[46:30] gig that was for 120. So our ISPs at the time did caution that they thought those were high.
[46:39] Okay. And that was, and we agreed that it might be, but it's where we're going to start,
[46:44] and we will be willing to adjust as we move forward.
[46:47] And that did prove true.
[46:48] They were a little bit higher than what the market was going to allow.
[46:51] So we've been working with local businesses that are looking at it.
[46:54] That end price was just a little bit more than they were able to manage.
[46:58] So the change that we I'm recommending is to have instead of a 300 package to a 500.
[47:04] And that will be 45, which is just slightly higher than what the residential 650 will be.
[47:11] So it's a little bit higher than a comparative number, right?
[47:14] So we always want it.
[47:15] We're always thinking that commercial sense is used for commercial.
[47:18] That we're keeping an eye on that it is a little bit more than a residential rate, right?
[47:23] And then we are looking at a gig package and that'll be 55.
[47:27] So for comparison, a residential gig is 45.
[47:30] So it's just a little bit higher.
[47:32] And then another exciting thing that when we're looking at both of the rates for residential
[47:38] and commercial is that we're adding two gigs.
[47:40] So we are adding a faster speed.
[47:43] So and that is kind of taking that higher price point.
[47:46] So we did add a package that is going to be
[47:48] at that higher price point, counselor, so we could not
[47:52] for it before we are now.
[47:54] And that one is $10 less than that original gig.
[48:00] So there is that another option for that higher speed
[48:03] at that higher price.
[48:05] So our businesses will still have that option.
[48:07] have a better option actually at that price point so it wasn't just that we adjusted the price we
[48:12] gave something better to backfill that and then we're also looking at bulk offerings which are
[48:18] in your five gig range which is really fast and then also some custom speeds as well so those
[48:23] are those higher higher speeds a little bit of a higher dollar potential there.
[48:29] last question and what of the eight hundred and six season number I wrote down and
[48:35] so and one if you would what percentage of that and is that going to hold to for
[48:39] the rest of them what percentage of the sixty is residential roughly just give me a
[48:44] rough roughly of the eight sixty I think we had something like fifty businesses that
[48:49] potential that are right there so that's not a percentage but that's the number
[48:52] that was in my head there's about fifty businesses in that area because it's an area on
[48:56] It's an area I'm Bell Nap.
[48:59] That's fine.
[49:00] 93% of residents.
[49:01] Thank you.
[49:05] On that particular point, that might influence a lot of grants.
[49:10] There's at least one grant that we are pursuing right now that would target business
[49:16] districts specifically.
[49:18] And we can design these however we want to be blends of commercial residents.
[49:22] But some grants could benefit more of a business economic development model.
[49:27] For the discussion, the question is actually on the Councilor Harris.
[49:31] Yeah, just one question. Is university hooked up to this yet?
[49:35] The University of Wisconsin specifically.
[49:39] So they are part of our can system.
[49:41] So that's a community area network. So they are not.
[49:44] So they are part of a different fiber system that was granted.
[49:47] It's actually the same one our city building is on.
[49:49] Thank you.
[49:52] You mentioned the grant fund, it's initially we were shooting for hoping for 50%
[49:57] grant funded for the total.
[50:00] Where are we at right now with grants? Total aside from the COVID relief? I mean, have we been successful in getting any grants specific for broadband?
[50:14] And we allocated some of the COVID relief money for that, but for like the, and we're targeting the bead. There was a couple others. How successful have we been in capturing some of those broadband grants?
[50:27] Well, we were a phone eligible for beat grants, but I don't know that anybody has actually really gotten any money that program is really struggle to get money out, so I don't think we've gotten any money there, but between CDBG and ARPA grants, it's still majority grant from it, I don't have that number of the percentage in front of me, but it's pretty significant, most of this is still coming from grants.
[50:49] Well, are you considering CDBG as a grant?
[50:56] Yes, okay, I mean, it's yes, that is federal grant funding for projects like this.
[51:05] Okay,
[51:07] further discussion.
[51:10] The question is on adopting the amendments to the three wholesale broadband service agreements.
[51:16] All those in favor of adopting all three amendments, please signify by saying aye.
[51:21] Those opposed say no, the motion carries.
[51:25] Item 8.1.1.5 is to approve the agreement between the City of Superior and Cramer
[51:30] Service Group for the phase two fiber construction project in the amount of $1,490,845
[51:37] and 49 sets.
[51:40] Motion by Councilor Alms, second by Councilor Ludwig, is a discussion.
[51:45] Hearing none, all those in favor, please sing five by saying aye.
[51:48] Those opposed say no, motion carries.
[51:51] Item six is to approve the bidding process.
[51:52] to be waived, and that the existing agreement with my tech services incorporated be amended
[51:58] to include construction management and inspection services for Fiber Phase II construction.
[52:06] Motion by Councilor Almside, my Councilor Ludwig is a discussion.
[52:10] Hearing none, all those in favor of policing, if I say aye, those opposed to say no, the
[52:14] motion carries.
[52:17] An item seven is to approve the no-cost change amendment to the service agreement with
[52:20] Lynn L. L. C.
[52:24] Solutions by Councilor Alps.
[52:25] Second by Councilor Ludwig.
[52:26] Sir discussion.
[52:29] Hearing none, all those in favour of the
[52:30] favor of the saying aye.
[52:32] Those opposed say no.
[52:34] The motion carries.
[52:37] Item 8.1.2 is the business of the plan
[52:40] commission with a meeting held on January 13.
[52:42] Does the report from the chair?
[52:44] Yes.
[52:45] Councilor's all of the business
[52:47] here relates to the small business grant
[52:51] program.
[52:51] So the first are updates and changes that the plan commission recommends to the program.
[52:59] There's a number of language changes that should help with the process.
[53:02] Most of these changes relate to the discernment of the grants.
[53:07] They're meant to help first the planning department and then the plan commission make recommendations about who is eligible
[53:13] and who is not to limit how much of that conversation you all need to have here.
[53:20] So I hope you've had a chance to read through that nothing too complicated there.
[53:25] The most significant change is in the maximum grant award and the percentages of the award.
[53:32] I would struggle to explain to you how those percentages were allocated in the existing program.
[53:36] In fact, I think most of us would.
[53:38] We had a lot of conversation about it.
[53:40] Plan Commission did a really good job trying to design a better system that would grant a little bit more money
[53:47] because the account is doing well and costs are increasing, so we all wanted to increase
[53:53] the maximum amount while still creating fair percentages. We tripped over ourselves a bunch
[53:59] of times on the math before Jason Sirken of Managrandlin from the Planning Department brought
[54:04] a change so simple that we were all kind of embarrassed we didn't think about it. We are recommending
[54:10] approving up to 50% of any small business grant project with a maximum of more award
[54:20] of $20,000. If you have a $10,000 project, we can recommend up to $5,000. If you have
[54:26] a $20,000 project, we can do up to $10,000, $30,000, $40,000, $20,000,000, $20,000.
[54:33] A million is $20,000. We won't be doing a million dollars. So it's a much simpler system,
[54:38] The most significant change, of course, though, being that it increased the maximum amount, which we then recommend for the next two awards.
[54:49] So what I'll do, I want to make sure that you've adopted that before I go into the actual grant awards, because technically, if you don't adopt it, those are not...
[55:00] Those next two words don't follow the policy. This is just a policy that we've adopted, so I just want to make sure you can answer any questions about that before we go into the grants.
[55:09] So, I'll ask that clerk to read, only 8.1.2.1.
[55:14] That is to approve updates to economic development fund, small business grant program.
[55:20] The motion is by Councilor Moff at the second by Councilor L.
[55:23] Discussion or question?
[55:24] Councilor Fettasy.
[55:25] The only thing I just want to make sure that we're,
[55:27] because I know we talked about this multiple times,
[55:30] different ways that the plank emission.
[55:33] If you look at the guidelines,
[55:36] under the eligible applicants must meet
[55:38] at least one of the criteria,
[55:41] and in any case,
[55:42] this has to be for brick and mortar.
[55:46] Yes.
[55:46] Because the way it's worded here is, I get what we're trying to do, but where it says,
[55:53] eligible applicants must meet at least one of the criteria.
[55:56] The first one is basically brick and mortar.
[55:59] Second one is a nonprofit with revenue generated activity and the third is a nonprofit art.
[56:04] By the way that that's worded, all they have to meet is one.
[56:08] But the one that they all of them have to meet is the brick and mortar.
[56:15] So, if there was just like a non-profit organization that doesn't have a brick-and-mortar,
[56:20] technically the way this is worded, they meet at least one of the criteria, but
[56:26] we almost have to like split that out where it's not one of the three because it has to be a brick-and-mortar.
[56:38] So, if you want to make sure that it says exactly that, I should say, counselors, I agree.
[56:47] If what counselor-fenency is saying is that the intent of this is that whoever gets the
[56:53] grant, it must be for a profit or not, for profit or not, for profit must be a brick and
[56:57] order facility.
[56:58] My understanding is that is the intent of the plan commission with this.
[57:01] So, I think I would certainly agree with an amendment to that effect, so if you'll allow me
[57:06] I would suggest because there are many differences
[57:10] other than Brecken Mortar in these criteria.
[57:15] The must meet at least one of the falling criteria.
[57:18] In the next section, it does say applicants must meet
[57:20] all of the following criteria and I would add a fourth point
[57:26] that says the business or non-profit must own rent or lease
[57:33] a commercial storefront or other brick and mortar location where it conducts regular activities.
[57:40] Yeah, I think that would clear that up to solidify that it's for a brick and mortar.
[57:48] That's what this program is designed for is for the brick and mortar, whether they own it rented or whatever.
[57:55] But yeah, I think that would certainly clean it up.
[57:57] Are you willing to make that amendment?
[57:58] Yeah, I will.
[57:59] Do you have any amendment?
[58:00] I'm
[58:04] going to add a fourth bullet point, two paragraph which you need to find, that's a
[58:09] business or nonprofit, must go on a brand or lease?
[58:12] No, no, no.
[58:12] Yeah.
[58:13] So it's all covered up here.
[58:14] So the first line of eligible app.
[58:16] So the amendment will read, under the, to create a fourth point, under the paragraph title,
[58:21] the applicants must meet all of the following criteria.
[58:24] It will add, after the fourth point, the business or nonprofit must own rent,
[58:32] or lease a storefront or other brick and mortar location where it conducts regular activities.
[58:43] Is there a second to that amendment? The motion is by Councillor Fenrisis,
[58:48] second by Councillor Sweeney, to amend. Discussion on that amendment. Specifically ensuring
[58:53] this is about physical locations. Councillor Johnson. Just to be clear with the second
[59:00] two bullet points in eligible applicants must meet if we had a non-profit organization that
[59:11] did not have a physical storefront but had a 501c3 board of directors but they just didn't
[59:20] have a storefront or a look could that location be somebody's house where their 501c3 is registered
[59:29] to.
[59:34] My understanding of that is no. The attorney just said the exact same thing to me.
[59:41] The intent and I believe a fact of the amendment is to make it so if any organization does
[59:48] not own or control a storefront or other brick and mortar location other than a home that
[59:58] it would not be helpful.
[1:00:00] Okay, I just wanted to make sure that that was clear for me on understanding that. Thank you.
[1:00:04] I said that right, you agree with that. Okay, thank you. Any further discussion on the amendment? Hearing none, all those in favour of adopting the amendment, please signify by saying aye.
[1:00:14] Those opposed say no. The motion carries. We are discussing the entirety of the small business grant fund program policies and guidelines. Any further discussion or questions on this?
[1:00:29] I notice in now there's a three-year waiting period, so I just need a little clarification on what that, I mean I know what three years are, is it the year that you get a grant in this three years beyond that, or is that one year you get the grant, does that count as one year?
[1:00:45] Three years beyond that, beyond it, yes. So, they're generally as you'd quarterly, well I think we went monthly actually, but the, yes, three years beyond that.
[1:00:54] OK, and so I understand the reason for that
[1:01:00] and the purpose to get more people involved in it,
[1:01:02] OK, more companies.
[1:01:04] But we haven't had, there have been some quarters
[1:01:08] that we haven't had very many people apply.
[1:01:12] And so was that to my question as it seemed to me,
[1:01:14] it may be too harsh.
[1:01:16] I agree with the waiting period.
[1:01:17] I don't want to apply in every quarter.
[1:01:20] But maybe three years as a little,
[1:01:23] if they're thinking about remodeling, adding on,
[1:01:27] improving their business,
[1:01:28] how three year waiting period,
[1:01:29] I'd realize there are other avenues to get money for them,
[1:01:31] but I just wanted to hold that three year,
[1:01:34] what was the thought process behind three years?
[1:01:37] The original thought process actually mostly
[1:01:41] to prevent any one or a small group of businesses,
[1:01:44] once they learn how to use this grant,
[1:01:47] they could be back every week,
[1:01:48] especially if they're doing a large remodel.
[1:01:50] That's an exaggeration,
[1:01:52] but a business that knows how to use this could come back and back, and we were mostly
[1:01:56] worried about any small group of people depleting the funds.
[1:02:01] But we did discuss reducing the three-year waiting period to help spend some of the money,
[1:02:07] but ultimately, if I can describe this fairly, the plan commission loosened a number of other
[1:02:14] requirements in these policies. So we felt before we revisit the three year waiting period.
[1:02:21] Let's just see if these changes actually increase submissions. But I believe there was an
[1:02:27] appetite to at least revisit it at some point, especially if applications remain slow and the fun
[1:02:31] continued to grow. Further discussion on this program.
[1:02:39] Hearing none, all those in favor of adopting
[1:02:43] these policies as amended as presented and amended tonight please signify by saying I. Those
[1:02:49] opposed say no, the motion carries. The second item is to approve the small business grant
[1:02:54] application and development agreement for superior isurina. Doing business at 1015 OX70 for
[1:03:00] expenses including replacing doors throughout the building in the amount of $20,000.
[1:03:07] Motion by Councilor Fancy, second by Councilor Moffett is their discussion.
[1:03:11] Hearing none, all those in favor please singify by say and aye.
[1:03:15] Those are Paul Say No, the motion carries.
[1:03:18] And the last is to approve this mom business grant application and development agreement
[1:03:22] for Winters Street LLC doing business at 1615 Winters Street for expenses including
[1:03:27] removing and replacing the parking lot in the amount of $20,000.
[1:03:32] The motions by Councillor Allen, the second by Councillor Grassey, is their discussion.
[1:03:36] Hearing none, all those in favor-pleasing five by saying aye, those opposed saying no, the motion carries.
[1:03:42] Moving on to reports without recommendations at this time, are there any further committee or commission reports to be made?
[1:03:52] Hearing none, we can move to new business.
[1:03:55] Item 10.1 is the provoked miscellaneous license is pending Department of Provost.
[1:04:02] Motion by Councillor Harris, I can by Councillor Moffett, has their discussion.
[1:04:06] Hearing none, all those in favor-pleasing five by saying aye.
[1:04:09] Those opposed say no, motion carries.
[1:04:12] 10.2 is a memorandum of understanding between the City of Superior and Northwest Wisconsin Community Services Agency Incorporated.
[1:04:21] Motion is by Councillor Muffett, second by Councillor Graskey, it's her discussion.
[1:04:25] Hearing none, all those in favor of policing by saying aye, those opposed say no, the motion carries.
[1:04:31] Item 10.3 is a resolution setting of public hearing on March 3rd,
[1:04:35] 2020-26 to request comments on community development needs and fair housing choice.
[1:04:41] Motion by Councilor Elm, second by Councilor Herrick, is their discussion.
[1:04:45] Hearing none, all those in favor please see in the five by saying aye, those of
[1:04:49] all say no, motion carries.
[1:04:51] And item 10.4 is a resolution I'm ending our 25-13-841 in its entirety and providing for the
[1:04:59] issuance and sale.
[1:05:00] Of general obligation and promissory notes, series 2026A, of the city of Superior, Wisconsin.
[1:05:09] Emotions by council from off at the second by council of Ludwig. So, discussion.
[1:05:14] Would you like to buy a fire hall?
[1:05:17] Hearing no discussion, all of those in favor, please signify by saying aye.
[1:05:22] Those opposed saying no. The motion carries.
[1:05:26] We have no business by public signed up. The only thing I would add,
[1:05:30] If you did not know, you just approved a $20,000 grant for Winters Street LLC, which is also the thirsty pagan whose kitchen closes at 8 p.m.
[1:05:40] If there's no further business for the council, we are adjourned.
[1:05:43] Thank you.