1 00:00:00,033 --> 00:00:00,834 Here today. 2 00:00:00,834 --> 00:00:03,837 Our mayor, city council and officials 3 00:00:04,637 --> 00:00:06,940 grant them clarity of mind. 4 00:00:06,940 --> 00:00:09,709 Patience of spirit and a deep commitment 5 00:00:09,709 --> 00:00:12,712 to the common good of all people. 6 00:00:14,047 --> 00:00:16,049 Make each of us instruments 7 00:00:16,049 --> 00:00:19,019 of peace and goodwill. 8 00:00:19,219 --> 00:00:19,819 Bless. 9 00:00:19,819 --> 00:00:22,822 We pray this city of surprise 10 00:00:22,889 --> 00:00:25,859 hits neighborhoods and homes. 11 00:00:26,359 --> 00:00:29,362 May we each be reminded this evening 12 00:00:29,729 --> 00:00:32,699 of the responsibility which is ours to bear, 13 00:00:33,500 --> 00:00:37,003 that this city be a place where goodness is nurtured 14 00:00:37,671 --> 00:00:41,074 and love is made visible in all that we do. 15 00:00:42,776 --> 00:00:44,110 Amen. 16 00:00:44,110 --> 00:00:45,945 And thank you, Reverend. 17 00:00:45,945 --> 00:00:48,548 Madam clerk, please call the roll. 18 00:00:48,548 --> 00:00:49,949 Mayor Sartor present. 19 00:00:49,949 --> 00:00:52,318 Vice mayor Greenburg here. 20 00:00:52,318 --> 00:00:53,787 Councilman Haney here. 21 00:00:53,787 --> 00:00:55,355 Councilman Duffy here. 22 00:00:55,355 --> 00:00:56,356 Councilman Melton. 23 00:00:56,356 --> 00:00:58,858 Present. Councilman Hastings here. Councilman. 24 00:00:58,858 --> 00:01:01,094 Jet here. Thank you. Mayor. We have quorum. 25 00:01:01,094 --> 00:01:01,327 All right. 26 00:01:01,327 --> 00:01:01,961 Thank you. 27 00:01:01,961 --> 00:01:03,563 So tonight, we have a special group 28 00:01:03,563 --> 00:01:04,731 to lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance. 29 00:01:04,731 --> 00:01:05,432 We have the Dysart 30 00:01:05,432 --> 00:01:09,202 High School Skills USA and broadcasting team. 31 00:01:09,202 --> 00:01:12,639 Here is, is was Mr. 32 00:01:12,639 --> 00:01:14,507 Yoder at stand here? 33 00:01:14,507 --> 00:01:16,009 Oh, in the back. Okay. 34 00:01:16,009 --> 00:01:17,010 So if you could help 35 00:01:17,010 --> 00:01:18,411 lead us in the pledge, I would appreciate it. 36 00:01:25,518 --> 00:01:28,521 I cannot. 37 00:01:29,289 --> 00:01:29,989 I pledge 38 00:01:29,989 --> 00:01:33,827 allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. 39 00:01:34,227 --> 00:01:37,230 And to the Republic for which it stands. 40 00:01:37,230 --> 00:01:40,533 One nation under God, indivisible, 41 00:01:40,700 --> 00:01:43,703 with liberty and justice for all. 42 00:01:44,838 --> 00:01:45,672 Thank. 43 00:01:45,672 --> 00:01:48,641 Right. 44 00:01:48,641 --> 00:01:50,276 So, did you have something you wanted to say? 45 00:01:50,276 --> 00:01:51,444 So we have a proclamation to. 46 00:01:51,444 --> 00:01:54,447 So you go ahead and we'll do the proclamation. 47 00:01:58,118 --> 00:02:00,186 Good evening, Mayor and Council. 48 00:02:00,186 --> 00:02:00,987 My name is Grace 49 00:02:00,987 --> 00:02:03,323 Brennan, and I am a senior at Desert High School 50 00:02:03,323 --> 00:02:05,959 and the president of our skills USA chapter. 51 00:02:05,959 --> 00:02:08,361 Skills USA is a career and technical student 52 00:02:08,361 --> 00:02:11,364 organization that empowers its members to become world 53 00:02:11,364 --> 00:02:14,434 class leaders, workers, and responsible citizens. 54 00:02:15,168 --> 00:02:17,837 We are also a part of the Desert Student Broadcasting Program, 55 00:02:17,837 --> 00:02:18,304 a program 56 00:02:18,304 --> 00:02:21,307 that is student led and student driven and student produced. 57 00:02:21,574 --> 00:02:23,209 We broadcast academic and sporting 58 00:02:23,209 --> 00:02:25,578 events live to our school's YouTube channel for any and all 59 00:02:25,578 --> 00:02:28,715 to join us throughout the 2025 2026 school year. 60 00:02:29,015 --> 00:02:29,849 Our in film, 61 00:02:29,849 --> 00:02:30,817 desert, film and TV 62 00:02:30,817 --> 00:02:32,419 gave back to our community in ways 63 00:02:32,419 --> 00:02:34,954 I could have never imagined we'd achieve 64 00:02:34,954 --> 00:02:36,589 as a two time, hopefully going on 65 00:02:36,589 --> 00:02:38,324 three goal chapter distinction. 66 00:02:38,324 --> 00:02:39,225 We are proud to share 67 00:02:39,225 --> 00:02:41,928 some of our accomplishments over the last year 68 00:02:41,928 --> 00:02:43,596 working in Desert Student Broadcasting. 69 00:02:43,596 --> 00:02:45,398 We have worked closely with surprise TV 70 00:02:45,398 --> 00:02:47,667 to cover events such as the Veterans Day Parade, 71 00:02:47,667 --> 00:02:49,269 the SciTech Festival, 72 00:02:49,269 --> 00:02:52,005 and with other events like Partnership Day coming up. 73 00:02:52,005 --> 00:02:53,973 We have participated in multiple street 74 00:02:53,973 --> 00:02:55,942 cleanups for a street in Glendale 75 00:02:55,942 --> 00:02:56,810 and have collected 76 00:02:56,810 --> 00:02:59,979 over 160 pounds of trash, and we are still counting. 77 00:03:00,747 --> 00:03:03,183 Additionally, we held our second annual toys for tots 78 00:03:03,183 --> 00:03:06,386 drive raising nearly 240 toys for children in need. 79 00:03:07,087 --> 00:03:09,823 In just a few weeks, 38 of our members will be headed 80 00:03:09,823 --> 00:03:11,424 to the Glendale Community College 81 00:03:11,424 --> 00:03:13,093 to compete in the annual region 82 00:03:13,093 --> 00:03:15,395 five Leadership in Skills Conference. 83 00:03:15,395 --> 00:03:17,330 Thank you for giving us the opportunity to share 84 00:03:17,330 --> 00:03:19,432 more about our accomplishments and contributions 85 00:03:19,432 --> 00:03:22,435 to the City of El Mirage, Glendale and surprise! 86 00:03:22,469 --> 00:03:22,769 Thank you. 87 00:03:41,488 --> 00:03:43,656 All right, so we got a two for tonight. 88 00:03:43,656 --> 00:03:47,093 We have the pledge, which is led by, skills USA. 89 00:03:47,093 --> 00:03:48,828 And we get a proclamation about skills USA. 90 00:03:48,828 --> 00:03:51,598 So let me do this. 91 00:03:51,598 --> 00:03:51,898 All right. 92 00:03:51,898 --> 00:03:54,134 So proclamation from the office of the mayor. 93 00:03:54,134 --> 00:03:57,137 Whereas February 2nd through February 6th, 2026 94 00:03:57,370 --> 00:04:00,674 has been designated by the skills USA, National Association 95 00:04:00,907 --> 00:04:02,842 as Skills USA week. 96 00:04:02,842 --> 00:04:05,845 And Whereas Career and Technical Education provide students 97 00:04:05,845 --> 00:04:08,715 with a school to career connection 98 00:04:08,715 --> 00:04:11,785 and is the backbone of a strong and educated workforce 99 00:04:11,785 --> 00:04:14,788 that fosters productivity in business and industry 100 00:04:14,921 --> 00:04:16,656 and contributes to leadership 101 00:04:16,656 --> 00:04:19,025 in the national and global economies. 102 00:04:19,025 --> 00:04:20,060 And Whereas, 103 00:04:20,060 --> 00:04:23,596 Career and Technical Education and Skills USA gives high school 104 00:04:23,596 --> 00:04:26,599 students empowering experiences and the meaningful 105 00:04:26,599 --> 00:04:28,435 application of skills such as reading, 106 00:04:28,435 --> 00:04:29,936 writing and mathematics, 107 00:04:29,936 --> 00:04:32,672 as well as the development of skill USA framework skills, 108 00:04:32,672 --> 00:04:34,107 including personal skills, 109 00:04:34,107 --> 00:04:37,577 workplace skills and technical skills grounded in academics, 110 00:04:37,911 --> 00:04:40,213 thus improving the quality of their education, 111 00:04:40,213 --> 00:04:42,048 providing increased motivation to learn, 112 00:04:42,048 --> 00:04:44,517 and giving all students leadership opportunities 113 00:04:44,517 --> 00:04:46,686 and their career fields, schools and communities. 114 00:04:47,854 --> 00:04:50,457 And Whereas, career and technical education 115 00:04:50,457 --> 00:04:52,592 offer students opportunities to learn skills 116 00:04:52,592 --> 00:04:56,029 and have career experiences that may lead to further education 117 00:04:56,162 --> 00:04:57,597 or meaningful employment. 118 00:04:57,597 --> 00:05:00,033 And Whereas, the cooperative efforts 119 00:05:00,033 --> 00:05:01,935 of career and technical educators 120 00:05:01,935 --> 00:05:03,703 working with business and industry 121 00:05:03,703 --> 00:05:06,439 stimulates the vitality of our nation's economy 122 00:05:06,439 --> 00:05:09,509 by preparing graduates for careers, forecast 123 00:05:09,509 --> 00:05:12,712 to experience the large, largest growth within the next decade. 124 00:05:13,113 --> 00:05:16,349 And Whereas skills USA is the number one workforce 125 00:05:16,349 --> 00:05:19,352 development organization for students preparing 126 00:05:20,053 --> 00:05:22,622 middle school, high school and college post-secondary 127 00:05:22,622 --> 00:05:24,891 students, and technical skills 128 00:05:24,891 --> 00:05:27,894 and career programs to be high performing workers. 129 00:05:28,461 --> 00:05:31,464 Now, therefore, I, Kevin Sartor, mayor of the City of Surprise, 130 00:05:31,498 --> 00:05:33,867 to hereby proclaim February 6th 131 00:05:33,867 --> 00:05:37,570 and February 2nd through February 6th, 2026 as skills 132 00:05:37,570 --> 00:05:39,639 USA week and urge all citizens 133 00:05:39,639 --> 00:05:42,642 to acquaint themselves with the mission of skills USA 134 00:05:42,676 --> 00:05:44,978 and to give support to the members who are working hard 135 00:05:44,978 --> 00:05:47,480 to achieve the goals that will make them outstanding, 136 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,182 skilled workers in our community. 137 00:05:54,988 --> 00:05:55,889 You mind if we get a picture? 138 00:05:55,889 --> 00:05:57,857 I can I can give this to you, counselor. 139 00:05:57,857 --> 00:06:00,860 You want to join us for that? 140 00:06:03,129 --> 00:06:03,930 Thank you. 141 00:06:03,930 --> 00:06:06,933 Are you taking anything here? 142 00:06:07,300 --> 00:06:09,269 I'm just going 143 00:06:09,269 --> 00:06:12,272 to here. 144 00:06:12,872 --> 00:06:14,407 Yeah. 145 00:06:14,407 --> 00:06:16,142 Jonathan. You could. 146 00:06:16,142 --> 00:06:18,211 You knew that was which 147 00:06:18,211 --> 00:06:19,612 we looked at. 148 00:06:19,612 --> 00:06:21,681 And so I don't, you know, like. 149 00:06:21,681 --> 00:06:24,684 Oh, I know. 150 00:06:28,188 --> 00:06:29,089 All right. 151 00:06:29,089 --> 00:06:30,056 Thank you. 152 00:06:30,056 --> 00:06:33,059 Did you come? 153 00:06:35,762 --> 00:06:38,098 With you one. 154 00:06:38,098 --> 00:06:39,766 Hey, way to represent skills, you guys. 155 00:06:39,766 --> 00:06:40,533 Good job. 156 00:06:40,533 --> 00:06:42,002 Good job guys. Thank you. 157 00:06:42,002 --> 00:06:45,005 Appreciate it. Now 158 00:06:45,205 --> 00:06:46,172 thanks a bunch. 159 00:06:46,172 --> 00:06:49,175 Yeah. 160 00:06:50,310 --> 00:06:51,611 Absolutely. Yes. 161 00:06:51,611 --> 00:06:54,614 You got it. You. 162 00:06:55,548 --> 00:06:55,915 Here. 163 00:06:55,915 --> 00:06:58,151 Just sharing a few words. 164 00:06:58,151 --> 00:07:00,787 Perfect. 165 00:07:00,787 --> 00:07:03,123 It is with great honor to accept this on behalf 166 00:07:03,123 --> 00:07:06,126 of my personal chapter, as well as skills USA as a whole. 167 00:07:06,159 --> 00:07:07,827 As a student leader, I always question 168 00:07:07,827 --> 00:07:10,163 how can I empower my fellow peers? 169 00:07:10,163 --> 00:07:12,932 How can I convince them that they too can be a leader? 170 00:07:12,932 --> 00:07:15,502 I'm sure many of you are curious as to what skills USA is, 171 00:07:15,502 --> 00:07:17,370 and I'm here to explain how this program alone 172 00:07:17,370 --> 00:07:20,173 is the answer to my two previous questions. 173 00:07:20,173 --> 00:07:22,509 Skills USA is the number one youth workforce development 174 00:07:22,509 --> 00:07:26,813 organization with over 444,000 members nationally. 175 00:07:27,447 --> 00:07:29,516 As mentioned, the purpose of this organization 176 00:07:29,516 --> 00:07:30,850 is to ensure students are prepared 177 00:07:30,850 --> 00:07:33,853 for careers in trade, technical and skills service operations. 178 00:07:33,953 --> 00:07:35,855 Their mission is to, quote, 179 00:07:35,855 --> 00:07:38,324 empower students to become skilled professionals, 180 00:07:38,324 --> 00:07:40,026 career ready leaders, and responsible 181 00:07:40,026 --> 00:07:41,795 community members, unquote. 182 00:07:41,795 --> 00:07:44,097 If I told you that a year ago, I refuse to use my voice 183 00:07:44,097 --> 00:07:46,332 and I wouldn't dare speak up for the good of my school, 184 00:07:46,332 --> 00:07:48,201 would it be hard to believe me? 185 00:07:48,201 --> 00:07:49,269 To help you all understand, 186 00:07:49,269 --> 00:07:51,137 I'd like to begin by recognizing the previously 187 00:07:51,137 --> 00:07:52,305 mentioned achievements of my film 188 00:07:52,305 --> 00:07:54,541 and TV program within this past year. 189 00:07:54,541 --> 00:07:56,876 Personally, I understood what my sole purpose was. 190 00:07:56,876 --> 00:07:58,311 A senior chapter president, 191 00:07:58,311 --> 00:07:58,978 I knew I needed 192 00:07:58,978 --> 00:08:00,213 to give back to my computer 193 00:08:00,213 --> 00:08:03,216 community that has invested so much into us. 194 00:08:03,450 --> 00:08:04,851 And I knew I was going to utilize 195 00:08:04,851 --> 00:08:06,653 every opportunity that came across me, 196 00:08:06,653 --> 00:08:08,855 not just for me, but for my advisor, 197 00:08:08,855 --> 00:08:11,858 my beloved peers, and the school in which I spent more time out 198 00:08:11,858 --> 00:08:13,159 than my own home. 199 00:08:13,159 --> 00:08:15,028 Now I stand here before you, overwhelmed 200 00:08:15,028 --> 00:08:16,930 with pride for what we have accomplished. 201 00:08:16,930 --> 00:08:17,997 I would like to ask again, 202 00:08:17,997 --> 00:08:20,166 would you believe me if I told you that I would dare 203 00:08:20,166 --> 00:08:22,202 not speak up for the good of my school? 204 00:08:22,202 --> 00:08:24,137 A year prior to now? 205 00:08:24,137 --> 00:08:25,472 I'm sure at this moment, most, 206 00:08:25,472 --> 00:08:27,007 if not all of you are asking yourself 207 00:08:27,007 --> 00:08:29,009 what was my turning point? 208 00:08:29,009 --> 00:08:31,978 My change only truly began once I took part in skills USA. 209 00:08:32,445 --> 00:08:35,115 This organization has taught me that I too can be a leader 210 00:08:35,115 --> 00:08:36,483 and take that next step 211 00:08:36,483 --> 00:08:40,053 and that any voice, no matter how proudly spoken or nervously 212 00:08:40,053 --> 00:08:43,056 whispered, is a voice that is deserved to be heard. 213 00:08:43,289 --> 00:08:45,658 Finally, as I end here, I would like to express 214 00:08:45,658 --> 00:08:49,462 the importance of teamwork, diversity and involvement with a 215 00:08:49,496 --> 00:08:51,931 not only a career and technical education program 216 00:08:51,931 --> 00:08:52,799 such as ours, 217 00:08:52,799 --> 00:08:54,868 but within everything practice in our lives, 218 00:08:54,868 --> 00:08:57,537 within our schools, cities and communities. 219 00:08:57,537 --> 00:08:59,639 Skills USA in CTE allows every student 220 00:08:59,639 --> 00:09:01,841 from any background to become a leader. Thank you. 221 00:09:05,712 --> 00:09:08,648 Thank. 222 00:09:08,648 --> 00:09:10,183 You. Well, young 223 00:09:10,183 --> 00:09:11,785 lady, I was going to give you one of my coins 224 00:09:11,785 --> 00:09:14,354 because you did such a great job. I owe you one. 225 00:09:14,354 --> 00:09:17,390 I don't have one of my my coins, but great job presenting. 226 00:09:17,957 --> 00:09:20,193 Oh, wait. Karina has one. You got to. 227 00:09:20,193 --> 00:09:21,695 You got to appreciate that. Okay. 228 00:09:21,695 --> 00:09:24,698 One sack. 229 00:09:29,169 --> 00:09:32,172 Is going down. 230 00:09:33,073 --> 00:09:34,374 16. That's kind of Mr. 231 00:09:34,374 --> 00:09:35,942 Omar. 232 00:09:35,942 --> 00:09:38,945 He put a bunch of us. 233 00:09:43,850 --> 00:09:45,885 I wanted that, but that's okay. 234 00:09:45,885 --> 00:09:47,320 Here we go. 235 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,457 So you need a visor in the, 236 00:09:50,990 --> 00:09:53,827 You can't find it on the challenge coin, 237 00:09:53,827 --> 00:09:56,129 and I don't give them up for various reasons, 238 00:09:56,129 --> 00:09:58,164 so you have to wait for them 239 00:09:58,164 --> 00:10:01,167 right in front of the council for all these people. 240 00:10:01,468 --> 00:10:02,769 Amazing. Yes, certainly. 241 00:10:02,769 --> 00:10:05,238 For us on here says these not words. 242 00:10:05,238 --> 00:10:06,006 It's something that I love. 243 00:10:06,006 --> 00:10:08,074 I said talking about it could be anybody. 244 00:10:08,074 --> 00:10:10,076 That's how you are in school. That's leadership. 245 00:10:10,076 --> 00:10:12,512 Congratulations. And Cheering okay 246 00:10:14,180 --> 00:10:33,099 I. Mrs. 247 00:10:33,099 --> 00:10:36,102 Davis do you have a city manager report. 248 00:10:36,703 --> 00:10:39,706 Thank you mayor Council members no reports tonight. 249 00:10:39,739 --> 00:10:42,609 The item that is Agendize will be rescheduled 250 00:10:42,609 --> 00:10:45,178 for the February 17th meeting. Okay. Thank you. 251 00:10:45,178 --> 00:10:46,046 Thank you. 252 00:10:46,046 --> 00:10:47,947 There are three items on the consent agenda. 253 00:10:47,947 --> 00:10:49,382 Would any of the council members 254 00:10:49,382 --> 00:10:52,385 like to pull in for clarification? 255 00:10:53,353 --> 00:10:54,220 Hearing none. 256 00:10:54,220 --> 00:10:57,657 I will entertain a motion to approve the consent agenda. 257 00:10:58,692 --> 00:11:00,493 Motion to approve consent agenda. 258 00:11:00,493 --> 00:11:01,194 I can't. 259 00:11:01,194 --> 00:11:02,128 It's been moved and seconded. 260 00:11:02,128 --> 00:11:05,098 Please cast your vote. 261 00:11:09,235 --> 00:11:11,037 That's a unanimous vote, mayor. 262 00:11:11,037 --> 00:11:11,338 Thank you. 263 00:11:11,338 --> 00:11:14,341 Please read. Item four. 264 00:11:14,674 --> 00:11:17,110 Item four Arizona Corporation 265 00:11:17,110 --> 00:11:20,747 Commission update. Is. 266 00:11:25,352 --> 00:11:27,320 Good evening, mayor and Council. 267 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,957 Today I have with me Arizona Corporation Commissioner 268 00:11:31,324 --> 00:11:34,327 Kevin Thompson, who's going to provide an update 269 00:11:34,494 --> 00:11:38,098 of what the SEC does, how they approach rate cases, 270 00:11:38,098 --> 00:11:40,467 some of their recent wins over the last year 271 00:11:40,467 --> 00:11:42,369 because they've had several 272 00:11:42,369 --> 00:11:43,636 they're a lot of people don't know about. 273 00:11:43,636 --> 00:11:44,137 So I'm going to pull up 274 00:11:44,137 --> 00:11:46,172 his presentation and call him down. And. 275 00:11:48,742 --> 00:11:51,711 Have him share the good news with all of you. 276 00:11:51,711 --> 00:11:53,279 And Judy, thank you for coordinating this. 277 00:11:53,279 --> 00:11:55,915 Yeah. You're welcome. 278 00:11:55,915 --> 00:11:57,717 This is something that we haven't done in the past, 279 00:11:57,717 --> 00:12:00,687 but thanks to you, 280 00:12:00,854 --> 00:12:03,857 everyone will have the same update now. 281 00:12:04,324 --> 00:12:05,558 Thank you. 282 00:12:05,558 --> 00:12:07,060 Just a little spread. 283 00:12:07,060 --> 00:12:09,429 Yeah. 284 00:12:09,429 --> 00:12:09,796 Good evening. 285 00:12:09,796 --> 00:12:12,432 Sir. How are you? 286 00:12:12,432 --> 00:12:13,366 We broke it. 287 00:12:13,366 --> 00:12:15,368 Oh. Oh, you got this better a moment ago. 288 00:12:15,368 --> 00:12:18,371 You got to wing it, but I think it's. 289 00:12:19,572 --> 00:12:20,306 Okay. 290 00:12:20,306 --> 00:12:22,909 Okay. 291 00:12:22,909 --> 00:12:24,577 Good evening, mayor and council. 292 00:12:24,577 --> 00:12:27,313 Thank you for inviting me to come 293 00:12:27,313 --> 00:12:30,316 and speak about the Arizona Corporation Commission. 294 00:12:30,417 --> 00:12:31,918 The Arizona Corporation Commission 295 00:12:31,918 --> 00:12:34,921 is one of those entities that was founded. 296 00:12:34,954 --> 00:12:37,524 It was founded at statehood. 297 00:12:37,524 --> 00:12:41,594 Constitutionally, so we don't report to the governor. We 298 00:12:41,594 --> 00:12:45,398 don't report to the legislature or the attorney general. 299 00:12:45,398 --> 00:12:48,401 We report to the citizens that elected us, 300 00:12:48,702 --> 00:12:51,204 statewide to represent them. 301 00:12:51,204 --> 00:12:55,342 The main, focus of the Arizona Corporation Commission is, 302 00:12:56,009 --> 00:13:00,180 really to regulate the non munic 303 00:13:01,214 --> 00:13:04,517 Our primary function is, is that that's about 98% 304 00:13:04,517 --> 00:13:08,488 of what we do appears to be, you know, Source Energy, 305 00:13:08,488 --> 00:13:11,691 Southwest Gas, and about 220 or so private water 306 00:13:11,691 --> 00:13:14,694 wastewater, companies across Arizona. 307 00:13:15,028 --> 00:13:16,963 We also have a securities department 308 00:13:16,963 --> 00:13:19,833 where we investigate securities fraud. 309 00:13:19,833 --> 00:13:22,569 We also have pipeline and railroad safety. 310 00:13:22,569 --> 00:13:23,136 Division. 311 00:13:23,136 --> 00:13:25,872 So we inspect every inch of rail line, 312 00:13:25,872 --> 00:13:27,507 across the entire state of Arizona. 313 00:13:27,507 --> 00:13:31,378 We're responsible for all of the crossings at grade crossings 314 00:13:31,378 --> 00:13:32,579 to make sure 315 00:13:32,579 --> 00:13:35,181 that the lights are flashing, that the arms come down 316 00:13:35,181 --> 00:13:36,783 when the train's coming, and so forth. 317 00:13:36,783 --> 00:13:40,453 And then we also have a incorporations division. 318 00:13:40,453 --> 00:13:41,788 So if you're an entrepreneur 319 00:13:41,788 --> 00:13:43,456 and you want to start your business, 320 00:13:43,456 --> 00:13:47,594 we will help, you, fill out your paperwork to become an LLC. 321 00:13:47,927 --> 00:13:49,996 We don't regulate business. 322 00:13:49,996 --> 00:13:53,099 We're only the filing, agency for that. 323 00:13:53,366 --> 00:13:56,736 So the corporation commission, our mission is to power 324 00:13:56,736 --> 00:13:58,004 Arizona's future. 325 00:13:58,004 --> 00:13:59,806 As simple as that. 326 00:13:59,806 --> 00:14:03,710 We we try to protect, ratepayers, during rate, 327 00:14:04,611 --> 00:14:07,380 when when the utilities come in for a rate cases. 328 00:14:07,380 --> 00:14:10,984 That's our primary responsibility is to ensure 329 00:14:11,217 --> 00:14:14,954 that we have a reliable grid and the grid is both water, gas 330 00:14:14,954 --> 00:14:17,991 and electric at the lowest possible price. 331 00:14:17,991 --> 00:14:21,027 And we do, we take our job very, very seriously 332 00:14:21,428 --> 00:14:23,963 at the commission to ensure that we're keeping our, 333 00:14:23,963 --> 00:14:25,598 prices as low as possible. 334 00:14:28,134 --> 00:14:29,869 Arizona right now is ranked 335 00:14:29,869 --> 00:14:33,873 nationally seventh in reliability in the U.S. 336 00:14:33,873 --> 00:14:36,309 compared to other states. 337 00:14:36,309 --> 00:14:39,312 The, the Energy 338 00:14:39,312 --> 00:14:43,083 Information administration.gov is the one that they're a big, 339 00:14:43,817 --> 00:14:47,787 government entity in DC that, is kind of like the watchdog 340 00:14:47,787 --> 00:14:50,990 and they, look at all the states and compare states. 341 00:14:51,524 --> 00:14:55,261 And Arizona, as I said, was, ranked seventh nationally. 342 00:14:56,196 --> 00:14:59,132 Over the last three years, we have had, no 343 00:14:59,132 --> 00:15:02,435 major outages other than, well, we've had six major outages, 344 00:15:03,103 --> 00:15:06,172 which is well below the, national average. 345 00:15:06,506 --> 00:15:09,442 California, for example, had 145 346 00:15:09,442 --> 00:15:14,080 major outages, Texas had 210, and Nevada had six. 347 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,183 And so, nationally, we're doing very, very good. 348 00:15:21,488 --> 00:15:24,357 The nationwide average 349 00:15:24,357 --> 00:15:28,762 for retail residential prices rose, nationally from, 350 00:15:29,062 --> 00:15:34,034 roughly six points, or increased by 6.5% nationally. 351 00:15:34,768 --> 00:15:35,969 In Arizona, 352 00:15:35,969 --> 00:15:39,906 our rates over that same period only increased by 1.7%. 353 00:15:40,306 --> 00:15:42,809 So we're doing our job to put the utilities 354 00:15:42,809 --> 00:15:45,779 back in their lane, ensuring that, 355 00:15:45,812 --> 00:15:48,481 that, we're holding our utilities accountable 356 00:15:48,481 --> 00:15:52,952 and we're not letting them, spend frivolously on projects. 357 00:15:54,020 --> 00:15:56,056 Their job is to produce power, 358 00:15:56,056 --> 00:15:56,990 but the power in the, 359 00:15:56,990 --> 00:15:59,626 in the transmission and distribution lines 360 00:15:59,626 --> 00:16:01,261 and serve the ratepayers. 361 00:16:01,261 --> 00:16:02,095 And that's what 362 00:16:02,095 --> 00:16:05,098 we're trying to get the utilities back to doing. 363 00:16:06,132 --> 00:16:08,601 Arizona ranked seventh for population growth 364 00:16:08,601 --> 00:16:11,738 from from prior years, and the state's population 365 00:16:11,738 --> 00:16:16,743 is projected to increase by 102% between 2000 and 2030. 366 00:16:17,577 --> 00:16:19,579 Our infrastructure is aging. 367 00:16:19,579 --> 00:16:20,714 And so, 368 00:16:20,714 --> 00:16:23,950 with a aging infrastructure, as you know, with your water 369 00:16:23,950 --> 00:16:24,718 and sewer lines, 370 00:16:24,718 --> 00:16:27,721 you have to start replacing aging infrastructure. 371 00:16:28,288 --> 00:16:30,223 Our rates, 372 00:16:30,223 --> 00:16:32,025 previously were outdated. 373 00:16:32,025 --> 00:16:34,794 They didn't really reflect the actual cost 374 00:16:34,794 --> 00:16:36,196 of providing service. 375 00:16:36,196 --> 00:16:37,163 And so, 376 00:16:37,163 --> 00:16:39,265 we're working with our utilities to make sure 377 00:16:39,265 --> 00:16:41,968 that they're updating their utility grid. 378 00:16:41,968 --> 00:16:43,737 They're updating water, lines. 379 00:16:43,737 --> 00:16:46,206 We have private water companies in Arizona, 380 00:16:46,206 --> 00:16:49,809 some that have never been in for a rate for rate case, 381 00:16:49,809 --> 00:16:53,013 which tells us that they're not investing in their utility. 382 00:16:53,279 --> 00:16:55,181 We have some water companies that haven't 383 00:16:55,181 --> 00:16:57,851 been in for a rate case in over 30 years. 384 00:16:57,851 --> 00:17:01,554 So they're not really investing in their in their utility 385 00:17:01,588 --> 00:17:04,424 to provide potable, safe drinking water. 386 00:17:09,696 --> 00:17:10,263 Arizona's 387 00:17:10,263 --> 00:17:14,701 generation is a diverse mix, primarily natural gas, 388 00:17:14,701 --> 00:17:15,301 that fuels 389 00:17:15,301 --> 00:17:19,305 most of our electricity across Arizona, with a roughly 46% 390 00:17:20,006 --> 00:17:22,909 nuclear power is, out at Palo Verde. 391 00:17:22,909 --> 00:17:24,644 That's about 27%. 392 00:17:24,644 --> 00:17:28,515 Solar is about 10 to 13%, along with coal, 393 00:17:28,515 --> 00:17:33,987 which is 7 to 8%, and renewable hydro wind, which is around 5%. 394 00:17:34,621 --> 00:17:38,024 It's worth noting that both SRP and Tucson 395 00:17:38,024 --> 00:17:38,858 Electric Power, 396 00:17:38,858 --> 00:17:41,861 as well as APS, plan on converting some of their 397 00:17:41,861 --> 00:17:43,029 existing coal plants. 398 00:17:43,029 --> 00:17:45,598 There's three left in the in Arizona. 399 00:17:45,598 --> 00:17:48,601 They're looking to convert those coal plants to natural gas, 400 00:17:49,069 --> 00:17:51,538 so that we can keep those plants open and functional 401 00:17:51,538 --> 00:17:54,541 for another 25 years. 402 00:17:56,443 --> 00:17:56,676 We're 403 00:17:56,676 --> 00:17:59,779 also, supportive of all of the above. 404 00:17:59,813 --> 00:18:03,383 We believe that every electron that we can put into the grid 405 00:18:03,383 --> 00:18:06,386 is what's going to help us keep the lights on in Arizona 406 00:18:06,619 --> 00:18:07,587 during our summers. 407 00:18:07,587 --> 00:18:10,557 And very few people know this last summer, 408 00:18:10,924 --> 00:18:13,193 in Arizona, all of our utilities, 409 00:18:13,193 --> 00:18:16,429 all three of our utilities SRP, DPI, and APS 410 00:18:16,863 --> 00:18:20,367 hit back to back to back record days with the heat. 411 00:18:20,734 --> 00:18:21,534 So they, 412 00:18:22,769 --> 00:18:25,572 when it was 120 degrees here in the Valley, 413 00:18:25,572 --> 00:18:28,675 every single day, the utility was breaking new records 414 00:18:29,142 --> 00:18:32,479 and our lights never flickered, our power never went out, 415 00:18:32,479 --> 00:18:33,580 and we were able to keep the air 416 00:18:33,580 --> 00:18:36,583 conditioning on across Arizona. 417 00:18:37,717 --> 00:18:39,019 This past year, 418 00:18:39,019 --> 00:18:42,022 we did repeal the rest rules. 419 00:18:42,555 --> 00:18:45,558 Those are the renewable energy standards and tariffs. 420 00:18:45,759 --> 00:18:48,294 Those are rules that were put in place, 421 00:18:48,294 --> 00:18:51,898 around 15 years ago that have cost our ratepayers, 422 00:18:52,198 --> 00:18:55,201 to this point in time, over $3.2 billion. 423 00:18:55,535 --> 00:18:56,770 Those were the mandates 424 00:18:56,770 --> 00:18:59,139 that said the utilities had to produce a certain 425 00:18:59,139 --> 00:19:02,142 percentage of their power using renewables. 426 00:19:02,909 --> 00:19:05,745 What's happened over time is that our commission 427 00:19:05,745 --> 00:19:06,613 has forgotten 428 00:19:06,613 --> 00:19:09,616 about baseload generation and relied on renewables, 429 00:19:09,916 --> 00:19:12,919 and the renewables have not, kept up, 430 00:19:13,019 --> 00:19:15,055 with that baseload generation. 431 00:19:15,055 --> 00:19:16,322 And so you're seeing our 432 00:19:16,322 --> 00:19:19,492 utilities now to back, back off a lot of their commitments 433 00:19:19,492 --> 00:19:20,627 on renewables. 434 00:19:20,627 --> 00:19:23,763 And they're starting to reinvest in natural gas generation 435 00:19:24,097 --> 00:19:26,099 to help keep the lights on. 436 00:19:26,099 --> 00:19:29,102 We also are supporting our, 437 00:19:29,469 --> 00:19:31,738 supporting consolidation of the water companies. 438 00:19:31,738 --> 00:19:33,273 As I said, we have some companies 439 00:19:33,273 --> 00:19:35,709 that haven't been in for 30 years, 440 00:19:35,709 --> 00:19:37,711 to renew their or for a rate case, 441 00:19:38,745 --> 00:19:41,047 which means they aren't investing in their utility. 442 00:19:41,047 --> 00:19:44,751 Their, their leakage is is 30 plus percent leakage. 443 00:19:45,051 --> 00:19:47,921 And that's water that the that the ratepayers 444 00:19:47,921 --> 00:19:50,924 have paid for that's going right back into the ground. 445 00:19:50,957 --> 00:19:54,961 And so, we're very supportive of supportive of consolidation 446 00:19:54,961 --> 00:19:57,964 where you have a larger utility that will come in and purchase 447 00:19:58,131 --> 00:19:59,399 the smaller utilities, 448 00:19:59,399 --> 00:20:01,701 and they're reinvesting in those utilities, 449 00:20:01,701 --> 00:20:04,704 bringing them up to, the standard for the day. 450 00:20:06,239 --> 00:20:08,775 We've also eliminated a lot of the special interest 451 00:20:08,775 --> 00:20:10,877 incentives and ratepayer subsidies. 452 00:20:10,877 --> 00:20:14,180 Again, we believe that ratepayers that if you want 453 00:20:14,314 --> 00:20:17,183 rooftop solar, you can have rooftop solar. 454 00:20:17,183 --> 00:20:20,053 Don't make me pay for your rooftop solar. 455 00:20:20,053 --> 00:20:22,922 And so, so we're eliminating a lot of the mandates 456 00:20:22,922 --> 00:20:25,925 and a lot of the subsidies that have cost our ratepayers 457 00:20:26,026 --> 00:20:28,828 hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars. 458 00:20:28,828 --> 00:20:32,665 And, letting those utilities down on the on their own merits. 459 00:20:36,136 --> 00:20:38,371 Data centers and large load customers 460 00:20:38,371 --> 00:20:40,774 have become the topic of the day, 461 00:20:40,774 --> 00:20:43,610 and it's no different for us at the commission. 462 00:20:43,610 --> 00:20:45,278 We strive every day 463 00:20:45,278 --> 00:20:49,349 to make sure that our lights stay on amongst all of this 464 00:20:49,349 --> 00:20:52,352 high load, factors that are coming in. 465 00:20:53,787 --> 00:20:56,189 We don't discriminate against projects. 466 00:20:56,189 --> 00:20:57,691 So whenever we're looking 467 00:20:57,691 --> 00:21:01,761 at, contracts, for example, we approved the Project 468 00:21:01,761 --> 00:21:05,131 Blue, which was down in, Tucson in the Marana area. 469 00:21:05,699 --> 00:21:08,301 We approved that project not too long ago. 470 00:21:08,301 --> 00:21:10,437 That project was a data center. 471 00:21:10,437 --> 00:21:13,239 We did not look at the data center. 472 00:21:13,239 --> 00:21:14,674 The project itself. 473 00:21:14,674 --> 00:21:17,010 That's your job as the local government 474 00:21:17,010 --> 00:21:19,979 to deal with the ordinances and the land use issues. 475 00:21:19,979 --> 00:21:22,082 All we look at is the electric piece, 476 00:21:22,082 --> 00:21:25,585 whether it's a generation tie or whether it's a contract. 477 00:21:25,585 --> 00:21:30,590 And, what we do is we verify and make sure that the contracts 478 00:21:30,590 --> 00:21:32,158 that the utilities are putting in place 479 00:21:32,158 --> 00:21:34,994 aren't going to impact our residential consumers. 480 00:21:34,994 --> 00:21:37,797 And so we take that job very, very seriously. 481 00:21:37,797 --> 00:21:41,534 We don't want to interfere with what your job is as 482 00:21:41,568 --> 00:21:43,737 local government, because you are the government 483 00:21:43,737 --> 00:21:45,305 that's closest to the people. 484 00:21:45,305 --> 00:21:48,775 And our job is to really manage the power grid, 485 00:21:49,109 --> 00:21:50,043 to keep an eye on that. 486 00:21:53,179 --> 00:21:54,414 Renewables. 487 00:21:54,414 --> 00:21:56,383 The commission, 488 00:21:56,383 --> 00:21:59,252 it's something to note that a lot of people think 489 00:21:59,252 --> 00:22:02,255 that the commission has authority over renewables. 490 00:22:02,689 --> 00:22:05,525 The only authority that we have is on the generation 491 00:22:05,525 --> 00:22:06,860 tie itself. 492 00:22:06,860 --> 00:22:10,797 The, Arizona revised statute, title 40, gives us authority 493 00:22:10,797 --> 00:22:14,467 and authority, as well as title or, Arizona Constitution. 494 00:22:15,235 --> 00:22:19,706 Section 15, our authority, stops at thermal and hydro. 495 00:22:20,373 --> 00:22:24,477 We do not have any, authority over, over non thermal. 496 00:22:24,477 --> 00:22:26,846 So all of renewables, wind, solar. 497 00:22:26,846 --> 00:22:30,150 We have zero authority over that other than the generation 498 00:22:30,150 --> 00:22:31,918 tie itself where it ties 499 00:22:31,918 --> 00:22:34,921 into the transmission lines coming into the valley. 500 00:22:34,954 --> 00:22:37,257 A lot of people feel that or think that we have 501 00:22:37,257 --> 00:22:40,260 that authority, that we can stop projects and we simply cannot. 502 00:22:40,593 --> 00:22:41,428 That's again, 503 00:22:41,428 --> 00:22:44,597 it goes back to local jurisdictions and your ability, 504 00:22:45,165 --> 00:22:48,168 to to manage your projects and, 505 00:22:48,301 --> 00:22:51,237 manage your ordinances and your city. 506 00:22:51,237 --> 00:22:53,506 So with that, if you have any questions, I'll 507 00:22:53,506 --> 00:22:54,374 be happy to answer. 508 00:22:56,609 --> 00:22:57,877 Thank you. 509 00:22:57,877 --> 00:22:59,813 Council. Any questions? 510 00:22:59,813 --> 00:23:02,749 Councilman Hastings. 511 00:23:02,749 --> 00:23:03,983 Thank you. Mayor. 512 00:23:03,983 --> 00:23:05,819 Well, thanks for coming out and appreciate you. 513 00:23:05,819 --> 00:23:07,053 I mean, you got your start on it. Was it? 514 00:23:07,053 --> 00:23:08,688 The Mesa City Council 515 00:23:08,688 --> 00:23:10,557 spent eight years on the Mesa City Council. 516 00:23:10,557 --> 00:23:13,059 I've never heard a statewide elected official say that. 517 00:23:13,059 --> 00:23:14,594 You know, you guys are a local government, 518 00:23:14,594 --> 00:23:15,662 and you should be making decisions. 519 00:23:15,662 --> 00:23:16,496 I think that's the first time. 520 00:23:16,496 --> 00:23:17,797 But thank you for all you're doing. 521 00:23:17,797 --> 00:23:20,533 I think that, sometimes, like, we overlook, 522 00:23:20,533 --> 00:23:22,102 you know, the utilities and supposedly 523 00:23:22,102 --> 00:23:23,336 the offensive lineman in a sense, 524 00:23:23,336 --> 00:23:24,204 like you ever notice 525 00:23:24,204 --> 00:23:25,705 when they're doing a good job, you only kind of 526 00:23:25,705 --> 00:23:27,207 see them on the news if something happens. 527 00:23:27,207 --> 00:23:29,342 And maybe that's kind of like it for all officials. 528 00:23:29,342 --> 00:23:30,677 But I appreciate your work 529 00:23:30,677 --> 00:23:31,945 and thanks so much for coming out here 530 00:23:31,945 --> 00:23:33,780 and especially talking about the data center piece, 531 00:23:33,780 --> 00:23:34,948 because I think that is new. 532 00:23:34,948 --> 00:23:39,052 So is that considered is data considered a utility now 533 00:23:39,052 --> 00:23:42,055 like in your umbrella that like what she regulator or 534 00:23:42,088 --> 00:23:42,856 where where's that at. 535 00:23:42,856 --> 00:23:44,758 It's not mayor council 536 00:23:45,759 --> 00:23:46,793 council member Hastings. 537 00:23:46,793 --> 00:23:47,894 It's not. 538 00:23:47,894 --> 00:23:50,897 Again we we don't look at the project itself. 539 00:23:51,731 --> 00:23:54,734 We try to do our best to manage. 540 00:23:55,168 --> 00:23:56,136 You know, we've said 541 00:23:56,136 --> 00:23:59,706 from the dais that development has to pay for itself. 542 00:24:00,073 --> 00:24:03,843 So we're not going to put, the cost to serve a data center 543 00:24:03,843 --> 00:24:06,846 onto the backs of our residential, ratepayers. 544 00:24:06,980 --> 00:24:08,248 We've made that commitment, 545 00:24:08,248 --> 00:24:10,950 and we're working hard to to live up to that. 546 00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:12,719 But we don't manage. 547 00:24:12,719 --> 00:24:15,689 I we don't manage data centers. 548 00:24:16,589 --> 00:24:16,890 I know 549 00:24:16,890 --> 00:24:20,060 there's a lot of legislation that's being ran this, this, 550 00:24:20,694 --> 00:24:22,862 this cycle, 551 00:24:22,862 --> 00:24:25,198 or this session where they are trying 552 00:24:25,198 --> 00:24:28,201 to put regulations in place to manage AI. 553 00:24:28,868 --> 00:24:31,137 Somebody out there needs to, 554 00:24:31,137 --> 00:24:33,406 but it's not the corporation commission. Absolutely. 555 00:24:33,406 --> 00:24:36,676 Well, you sure know how to go to draw a crowd to as well. 556 00:24:37,410 --> 00:24:39,312 So I say you have a good night. 557 00:24:39,312 --> 00:24:40,780 Thank you. Sir. Yeah. Thank you. 558 00:24:40,780 --> 00:24:42,382 Yeah. Jokester over there. 559 00:24:42,382 --> 00:24:44,384 And vice mayor. You were serious now? 560 00:24:44,384 --> 00:24:46,419 Councilman. Free Ramos. 561 00:24:46,419 --> 00:24:48,054 Vice. Councilman Milton. 562 00:24:50,290 --> 00:24:51,291 Thank you. 563 00:24:51,291 --> 00:24:52,058 Mayor. 564 00:24:52,058 --> 00:24:53,093 Commissioner Thompson, thanks for 565 00:24:53,093 --> 00:24:55,495 thanks for coming out to see us. 566 00:24:55,495 --> 00:24:57,797 You're obviously your job is 567 00:24:57,797 --> 00:25:00,633 the commission has a has a tough has a tough role. 568 00:25:00,633 --> 00:25:02,969 As you as you pointed out, Arizona is doing 569 00:25:02,969 --> 00:25:05,972 everything we can to keep up with our demand curves. 570 00:25:06,206 --> 00:25:09,576 And it's, and you have to balance all of these things. 571 00:25:09,576 --> 00:25:10,977 And I will tell you that 572 00:25:10,977 --> 00:25:13,213 having, being observer of the ACC 573 00:25:13,213 --> 00:25:15,548 all these years, I'm very impressed 574 00:25:15,548 --> 00:25:16,616 with what you guys are doing. 575 00:25:16,616 --> 00:25:19,619 I know that you're doing every tool you have, 576 00:25:20,854 --> 00:25:22,889 to keep up that demand curve to be respectful 577 00:25:22,889 --> 00:25:23,757 to the ratepayers. 578 00:25:23,757 --> 00:25:28,061 But, having watching you, you know, promoting securitization, 579 00:25:28,361 --> 00:25:31,364 promoting permitting reform, repealing these, 580 00:25:32,165 --> 00:25:35,168 mandates, with the rules, the rest rules, 581 00:25:35,268 --> 00:25:38,371 you know, doing what you can for energy conversion. 582 00:25:39,673 --> 00:25:41,207 I really appreciate 583 00:25:41,207 --> 00:25:41,775 I know what it's, 584 00:25:41,775 --> 00:25:43,543 you know, on city council, we're doing everything 585 00:25:43,543 --> 00:25:45,679 we can just to keep up with infrastructure. 586 00:25:45,679 --> 00:25:49,049 Every tool we have, we are trying to we're trying to use. 587 00:25:49,049 --> 00:25:50,917 And you guys are kind of similar 588 00:25:50,917 --> 00:25:53,853 to every tool you have, how you're supposed to, 589 00:25:53,853 --> 00:25:55,155 to keep up with our demand curves. 590 00:25:55,155 --> 00:25:56,523 And I really appreciate it. 591 00:25:56,523 --> 00:25:58,825 Everything you guys do at DCC, and I really appreciate 592 00:25:58,825 --> 00:26:01,261 you guys coming down and and briefing on the committee. 593 00:26:01,261 --> 00:26:02,162 So thank you. 594 00:26:02,162 --> 00:26:04,798 Thank you. Mayor and council. Thank you. 595 00:26:04,798 --> 00:26:06,066 Council member Melton. 596 00:26:06,066 --> 00:26:08,601 It hasn't been easy. 597 00:26:08,601 --> 00:26:12,706 It, it was, you know, when we first got into office 598 00:26:12,706 --> 00:26:16,676 in January 23rd, the commission was in disarray, and, 599 00:26:17,043 --> 00:26:20,647 we were dead last in the nation for regulatory stability. 600 00:26:21,081 --> 00:26:24,918 That showed up in our rates because our utilities, 601 00:26:25,518 --> 00:26:26,953 if you think about, 602 00:26:26,953 --> 00:26:30,523 regulatory stability and the ability for our utilities to, 603 00:26:31,157 --> 00:26:34,494 to go out and get capital for these capital intensive 604 00:26:34,494 --> 00:26:35,929 programs, replacing poles, 605 00:26:35,929 --> 00:26:38,531 replacing wires and so forth, and equipment, 606 00:26:38,531 --> 00:26:42,068 transformers, pipelines, all of that takes capital. 607 00:26:42,068 --> 00:26:46,006 And because our credit ratings were in the gutters, 608 00:26:46,906 --> 00:26:51,311 our utilities were paying, higher interest rates. 609 00:26:51,344 --> 00:26:53,013 It's no different than a consumer. 610 00:26:53,013 --> 00:26:53,913 If you have bad credit, 611 00:26:53,913 --> 00:26:55,682 you're going to pay a higher interest rate. 612 00:26:55,682 --> 00:26:58,651 Our utilities were paying higher interest rates 613 00:26:58,651 --> 00:27:00,320 a lot of people say so what? 614 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,522 Well, that interest rate is a pass through cost 615 00:27:02,522 --> 00:27:03,957 onto our consumers. 616 00:27:03,957 --> 00:27:08,428 And so, while you're paying 7% interest on, on several 617 00:27:08,695 --> 00:27:12,866 hundreds of millions of dollars, that interest is compounding. 618 00:27:13,199 --> 00:27:16,169 And our utilities, our ratepayers are paying that 619 00:27:16,236 --> 00:27:19,372 by stabilizing our regulatory environment in Arizona, 620 00:27:19,606 --> 00:27:22,409 we've actually opened up access to capital. 621 00:27:22,409 --> 00:27:25,512 So now our utilities have access to cheaper capital 622 00:27:25,512 --> 00:27:26,613 where they're only paying 2 623 00:27:26,613 --> 00:27:27,647 to 3% 624 00:27:27,647 --> 00:27:29,883 interest on, on the on those hundreds 625 00:27:29,883 --> 00:27:31,718 of millions of dollars of capital, 626 00:27:31,718 --> 00:27:35,155 which means it helps reduce our cost as ratepayers. 627 00:27:35,488 --> 00:27:36,456 And at the end of the day, I'm 628 00:27:36,456 --> 00:27:38,124 a ratepayer just like you're a ratepayer. 629 00:27:38,124 --> 00:27:39,492 So I don't want my rates to go up. 630 00:27:39,492 --> 00:27:42,495 My wife don't want my rates, our rates to go up. 631 00:27:42,529 --> 00:27:45,265 She makes sure she reminds me of that all the time. 632 00:27:45,265 --> 00:27:47,600 And so, again, we're working hard. 633 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,838 We've cut, since we were sworn into office in January 23. 634 00:27:51,838 --> 00:27:54,841 We've got over $1 billion of waste out of our utilities. 635 00:27:55,141 --> 00:27:56,609 That's a big deal. 636 00:27:56,609 --> 00:27:58,545 That a lot of people don't talk about. 637 00:27:58,545 --> 00:28:03,149 But $1 billion in waste that our utilities have been spending. 638 00:28:03,883 --> 00:28:04,751 We've cut that out. 639 00:28:04,751 --> 00:28:08,421 And hopefully that's going to show up as our, in our rates, 640 00:28:08,788 --> 00:28:09,689 in the future. 641 00:28:09,689 --> 00:28:12,859 Again, we use a test here in Arizona. 642 00:28:12,892 --> 00:28:16,129 So the money that we're the rates that are set today 643 00:28:16,463 --> 00:28:19,299 is money that the utility spent two years ago, 644 00:28:19,299 --> 00:28:21,601 and they're just now starting to recover, that 645 00:28:21,601 --> 00:28:23,236 hopefully we can minimize 646 00:28:23,236 --> 00:28:25,338 these stranded assets that might be possible. 647 00:28:25,338 --> 00:28:27,040 So yeah. Yeah. Exactly. 648 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,877 So, so again, thank you all for allowing me to be here tonight. 649 00:28:30,910 --> 00:28:31,344 Thank you. 650 00:28:32,579 --> 00:28:33,446 I'm going to thank you. 651 00:28:33,446 --> 00:28:36,449 Thank you. 652 00:28:37,217 --> 00:28:39,386 Madam clerk, please read item number five. 653 00:28:39,386 --> 00:28:39,686 Thank you. 654 00:28:39,686 --> 00:28:41,721 Item five presentation and discussion 655 00:28:41,721 --> 00:28:44,824 pertaining to the f y 2027 budget kickoff. 656 00:28:50,397 --> 00:28:52,265 Good evening, Mayor and Council. 657 00:28:52,265 --> 00:28:52,966 Good evening, Mayor Simmons. 658 00:28:52,966 --> 00:28:55,969 How are you doing? 659 00:29:02,876 --> 00:29:04,244 You guys are stuck with me 660 00:29:04,244 --> 00:29:07,580 for three presentations, I apologize. 661 00:29:08,415 --> 00:29:08,915 All right. 662 00:29:08,915 --> 00:29:10,617 It's important stuff for the budget. 663 00:29:10,617 --> 00:29:12,419 We're looking forward to. Okay. 664 00:29:12,419 --> 00:29:14,320 All right. 665 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,557 So we are here for our annual budget kickoff. 666 00:29:18,058 --> 00:29:19,859 So what is the city budget? 667 00:29:19,859 --> 00:29:20,760 This is where we take 668 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,763 limited resources and allocate them to maintain 669 00:29:24,064 --> 00:29:25,732 our service levels. 670 00:29:25,732 --> 00:29:29,302 We consider the budget to be all four of these items 671 00:29:29,336 --> 00:29:30,904 financial plan, communications 672 00:29:30,904 --> 00:29:33,907 device operating guide, and a policy document. 673 00:29:35,041 --> 00:29:37,277 Everyone here at the city participates 674 00:29:37,277 --> 00:29:40,280 in the budget process, and one way or another, 675 00:29:40,947 --> 00:29:43,683 through the strategic plan that you guys help initiate 676 00:29:43,683 --> 00:29:45,251 all the way through our staff. 677 00:29:48,188 --> 00:29:48,922 Asking for their 678 00:29:48,922 --> 00:29:51,925 needs and expressing those needs 679 00:29:53,026 --> 00:29:54,127 and developing the budget. 680 00:29:54,127 --> 00:29:57,764 We utilize council's strategic plan to ensure 681 00:29:57,764 --> 00:30:00,967 we are maintaining service levels, but also 682 00:30:02,202 --> 00:30:04,037 to ensure that we are able to expand or 683 00:30:04,037 --> 00:30:07,040 create new programs and services as needed. 684 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,276 We are constantly evaluating operational demands 685 00:30:10,677 --> 00:30:14,814 and reviewing and prioritizing needs versus wants to ensure 686 00:30:14,814 --> 00:30:17,817 that we are in line with council goals and meeting 687 00:30:17,817 --> 00:30:20,787 safety, compliance and contractual obligations 688 00:30:22,655 --> 00:30:23,990 while prioritizing. 689 00:30:23,990 --> 00:30:26,993 We recognize that everything we want to do is important, 690 00:30:27,127 --> 00:30:30,430 while accepting that we have to allocate limited resources 691 00:30:30,430 --> 00:30:33,433 to those needs and wants. 692 00:30:34,401 --> 00:30:37,504 Something that we must be able to do is keep up with growth. 693 00:30:37,971 --> 00:30:39,773 But what does that mean? 694 00:30:39,773 --> 00:30:42,809 Increased population doesn't just equate to increased 695 00:30:42,809 --> 00:30:43,743 revenue. 696 00:30:43,743 --> 00:30:47,080 It also equates to an increase in demand on services, 697 00:30:47,447 --> 00:30:50,450 which in turn means an increase to our expenses, 698 00:30:50,517 --> 00:30:52,018 which isn't always 1 to 1. 699 00:30:52,986 --> 00:30:55,021 Our top priority is to maintain 700 00:30:55,021 --> 00:30:58,024 our current service levels. 701 00:30:58,925 --> 00:31:00,260 So everything I just told you 702 00:31:00,260 --> 00:31:03,263 has to fit in within our state requirements. 703 00:31:04,130 --> 00:31:06,599 We have to follow Arizona Revised Statute title 704 00:31:06,599 --> 00:31:10,470 42 to ensure that we meet specific deadlines by posting 705 00:31:10,470 --> 00:31:13,473 forms and publishing documents accordingly. 706 00:31:14,641 --> 00:31:17,277 The state forum is one of the most important forms 707 00:31:17,277 --> 00:31:19,412 that is utilized in communicating 708 00:31:19,412 --> 00:31:22,415 and publishing our tentative and final budget. 709 00:31:22,682 --> 00:31:26,019 And here, this is just a quick outline of, 710 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,723 some of the rules we have to follow. 711 00:31:30,757 --> 00:31:32,225 We also have very strict rules 712 00:31:32,225 --> 00:31:33,727 when it comes to publishing the truth 713 00:31:33,727 --> 00:31:36,029 and taxation notice for property tax. 714 00:31:36,029 --> 00:31:39,866 This is a quick picture of what that posting looks like. 715 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,004 Again, with some rules that we have to adhere to. 716 00:31:45,705 --> 00:31:47,140 Following state requirements, 717 00:31:47,140 --> 00:31:49,776 we have to ensure that we are creating a balanced budget 718 00:31:51,244 --> 00:31:52,579 that is structurally balanced 719 00:31:52,579 --> 00:31:55,582 with our sources and our uses. 720 00:31:56,750 --> 00:31:59,486 We do this by identifying what are one time versus 721 00:31:59,486 --> 00:32:03,023 ongoing or in other words, consistent versus inconsistent. 722 00:32:03,656 --> 00:32:05,392 For example, we know we will always have 723 00:32:05,392 --> 00:32:08,395 personnel costs and local sales tax to pay for them. 724 00:32:08,928 --> 00:32:11,931 While construction sales tax can be volatile. 725 00:32:12,032 --> 00:32:15,035 Our capital projects are considered one time in nature. 726 00:32:16,936 --> 00:32:17,837 Here is a high level 727 00:32:17,837 --> 00:32:21,074 look at how we start and proceed through our budget process. 728 00:32:21,808 --> 00:32:22,542 We do. 729 00:32:22,542 --> 00:32:24,744 We start with continuous monitoring 730 00:32:24,744 --> 00:32:27,947 our budget versus actuals, and we continue that through 731 00:32:27,947 --> 00:32:30,950 every cycle of the process. 732 00:32:31,618 --> 00:32:34,387 So now that I have explained the what the why in the how, 733 00:32:34,387 --> 00:32:37,824 I want to remind everyone how the FY 26 budget is laid out. 734 00:32:40,126 --> 00:32:43,129 Here is a summary of what is in our budget book. 735 00:32:43,563 --> 00:32:46,332 Pages 26 through 29. 736 00:32:46,332 --> 00:32:49,235 Our total 986 million and uses. 737 00:32:50,737 --> 00:32:52,205 For the purpose of this slide, 738 00:32:52,205 --> 00:32:55,408 we focus on the operating of 395 million. 739 00:32:56,142 --> 00:32:58,311 And you can see those can be broken out 740 00:32:58,311 --> 00:33:01,314 by category and fund type accordingly. 741 00:33:01,348 --> 00:33:04,617 We also have capital debt contingency and transfers 742 00:33:04,617 --> 00:33:08,355 out that we, monitor and maintain. 743 00:33:10,090 --> 00:33:12,092 Taking the numbers a step further 744 00:33:12,092 --> 00:33:14,894 to include capital and funding types. 745 00:33:14,894 --> 00:33:18,498 This is how each set of funds are budgeted for a total of 788 746 00:33:18,498 --> 00:33:21,835 million, not including contingency and transfers. 747 00:33:24,004 --> 00:33:27,007 You can see that our enterprise funds 748 00:33:27,507 --> 00:33:29,776 are 160.5 million. 749 00:33:29,776 --> 00:33:31,344 Those include our water, 750 00:33:31,344 --> 00:33:34,347 our wastewater, our stormwater, and our sanitation. 751 00:33:34,914 --> 00:33:37,951 Our special revenue funds, grants, municipal court, 752 00:33:37,951 --> 00:33:39,552 streetlight improvement districts, 753 00:33:39,552 --> 00:33:42,389 highway user revenue funds, donations, 754 00:33:42,389 --> 00:33:44,290 sports, entertainment and culture. 755 00:33:44,290 --> 00:33:48,328 Those all are in our special Revenue fund, among others. 756 00:33:49,229 --> 00:33:51,931 Our internal service funds are our employee health care, 757 00:33:51,931 --> 00:33:55,602 work comp and risk management and our capital project funds. 758 00:33:56,369 --> 00:33:59,839 Include transportation, public safety and asset replacement 759 00:33:59,839 --> 00:34:00,440 to name a few. 760 00:34:03,443 --> 00:34:05,178 Of that 788 million. 761 00:34:05,178 --> 00:34:07,981 This is how we are investing into our functional areas. 762 00:34:07,981 --> 00:34:09,749 Again, this is citywide. 763 00:34:09,749 --> 00:34:12,752 This includes incorporating the support service functions 764 00:34:12,752 --> 00:34:16,489 of HR, finance, I.T., communications, etc. 765 00:34:16,890 --> 00:34:19,526 and to each one of these functional areas, 766 00:34:19,526 --> 00:34:23,530 they're pretty well evenly spaced out with community 767 00:34:23,530 --> 00:34:26,533 and economic development at 7% 768 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,836 and community services at 15%, 769 00:34:29,836 --> 00:34:32,839 and so forth, so on. 770 00:34:33,173 --> 00:34:35,642 What revenues support our citywide functions? 771 00:34:35,642 --> 00:34:36,643 Almost 300 772 00:34:36,643 --> 00:34:40,647 million are from taxes, local, state and property, and almost 773 00:34:40,647 --> 00:34:44,084 200 million are from licenses, fees and charges for services. 774 00:34:44,751 --> 00:34:48,088 The citywide charges for services category does 775 00:34:48,088 --> 00:34:51,057 include our enterprise funds 776 00:34:51,858 --> 00:34:53,827 along with our permitting, 777 00:34:53,827 --> 00:34:56,830 engineering, parks, programs, etc.. 778 00:34:56,930 --> 00:34:58,264 Our next set of slides will break down 779 00:34:58,264 --> 00:35:01,267 the general fund revenue and expenses. 780 00:35:02,102 --> 00:35:05,338 The general fund makes up 29% of our total budget, 781 00:35:05,638 --> 00:35:06,973 but it is within this area 782 00:35:06,973 --> 00:35:09,576 that the majority of the city operates. 783 00:35:09,576 --> 00:35:11,277 That is, since all the other funds 784 00:35:11,277 --> 00:35:14,247 are restricted for a specific use. 785 00:35:14,447 --> 00:35:17,984 Of the 231 million of general fund expenditures. 786 00:35:18,018 --> 00:35:21,021 We are investing almost 60% into public safety, 787 00:35:21,287 --> 00:35:24,524 and the remaining 40% is divided pretty equally across our 788 00:35:24,557 --> 00:35:25,959 other functional areas. 789 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:28,228 Again, this 790 00:35:28,228 --> 00:35:33,066 depicts, our internal support services of H.R.. 791 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,403 IT, communications, finance, etc.. 792 00:35:37,537 --> 00:35:40,306 Again, how are the general fund items funded? 793 00:35:40,306 --> 00:35:42,776 The majority of them are funded by taxes. 794 00:35:42,776 --> 00:35:45,779 And in order for us to offer many of our community services, 795 00:35:45,945 --> 00:35:48,014 we also have charges for services. 796 00:35:48,014 --> 00:35:51,017 So you can see our local sales tax, 797 00:35:51,251 --> 00:35:53,553 our state shared sales tax, income tax 798 00:35:53,553 --> 00:35:56,990 and other intergovernmental and our property tax. 799 00:35:56,990 --> 00:35:59,592 Those are the taxes. And then our charges 800 00:35:59,592 --> 00:36:02,595 for services make up a good chunk of that. 801 00:36:03,697 --> 00:36:05,365 The charges for services category 802 00:36:05,365 --> 00:36:08,368 help offset a lot of the costs to have those programs, 803 00:36:08,535 --> 00:36:11,538 the fees charged and the number of customers, participants 804 00:36:12,205 --> 00:36:15,208 are the main drivers for this revenue category. 805 00:36:17,644 --> 00:36:19,312 And economic outlook. 806 00:36:19,312 --> 00:36:20,914 Where do we go from here? 807 00:36:20,914 --> 00:36:22,949 What are we looking at for FY 27? 808 00:36:22,949 --> 00:36:25,552 At this time it is still too early to tell. 809 00:36:25,552 --> 00:36:27,253 There are approximately 500 bills 810 00:36:27,253 --> 00:36:28,188 that may have an impact 811 00:36:28,188 --> 00:36:31,191 to cities that are actively being looked at by our staff. 812 00:36:31,624 --> 00:36:33,927 We are patiently waiting for further updates 813 00:36:33,927 --> 00:36:36,129 from the state and legislation at this time. 814 00:36:39,099 --> 00:36:42,102 Our budget calendar. 815 00:36:42,635 --> 00:36:46,272 We have tonight our budget kickoff on April 7th. 816 00:36:46,272 --> 00:36:48,475 We will be back. 817 00:36:48,475 --> 00:36:51,478 For our department and operating capital overview, 818 00:36:51,511 --> 00:36:54,314 kind of our recommended budget and May 819 00:36:54,314 --> 00:36:57,317 5th will be our tentative adopted budget. 820 00:36:58,218 --> 00:37:00,120 Any questions or comments? 821 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:00,453 All right. 822 00:37:00,453 --> 00:37:01,588 Thank you for your presentation. 823 00:37:01,588 --> 00:37:04,491 Council. 824 00:37:04,491 --> 00:37:06,259 Councilman Haney. 825 00:37:06,259 --> 00:37:07,260 Thank you. Mayor. 826 00:37:07,260 --> 00:37:08,495 Any thank you for your presentation. 827 00:37:08,495 --> 00:37:09,996 I, I know we're going to have you out 828 00:37:09,996 --> 00:37:12,365 in some of my community meetings just because 829 00:37:12,365 --> 00:37:14,334 I think, especially in northwest 830 00:37:14,334 --> 00:37:16,369 surprise, we deal with a lot with roads. 831 00:37:16,369 --> 00:37:21,241 And, we severely underestimate just how much it costs 832 00:37:21,274 --> 00:37:22,409 for certain things. 833 00:37:22,409 --> 00:37:24,110 And I and I was one of those folks 834 00:37:24,110 --> 00:37:26,079 where I thought a road was a lot 835 00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:27,747 cheaper than it was the traffic signal. 836 00:37:27,747 --> 00:37:28,748 Everything has a cost. 837 00:37:28,748 --> 00:37:32,152 And so having, the opportunity to break down the budget 838 00:37:32,152 --> 00:37:34,888 for folks to see where, where is the city spending your money? 839 00:37:34,888 --> 00:37:37,824 I believe that we exist as a service organization, 840 00:37:37,824 --> 00:37:39,092 but those services cost money. 841 00:37:39,092 --> 00:37:40,627 And I really appreciated you. 842 00:37:42,195 --> 00:37:43,329 Kind of making the point. 843 00:37:43,329 --> 00:37:44,531 A lot of folks say, hey, 844 00:37:44,531 --> 00:37:46,599 we we're growing at a rapid rate, 845 00:37:46,599 --> 00:37:49,169 which if you go in my district, you can see that. 846 00:37:49,169 --> 00:37:52,372 But that doesn't necessarily mean that all of that growth 847 00:37:52,372 --> 00:37:54,641 is just paying for itself, service wise. 848 00:37:54,641 --> 00:37:58,812 And so I always tell folks that although we are growing 849 00:37:58,812 --> 00:38:00,513 and you think, you know, the city's just, 850 00:38:00,513 --> 00:38:02,048 hey, let's have the growth. 851 00:38:02,048 --> 00:38:05,552 We are responsible providing services for those residents. 852 00:38:05,552 --> 00:38:06,986 And those services cost money. 853 00:38:06,986 --> 00:38:10,256 Public safety is very expensive, but it's critical 854 00:38:10,256 --> 00:38:12,525 to keeping our community safe and so, 855 00:38:12,525 --> 00:38:13,159 I appreciate 856 00:38:13,159 --> 00:38:15,095 I know we're just starting this whole kickoff, 857 00:38:15,095 --> 00:38:17,797 but my hope is that we continue to have presentations like this 858 00:38:17,797 --> 00:38:19,599 that will give easily digestible 859 00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:22,135 information for our folks so they can see exactly 860 00:38:22,135 --> 00:38:23,269 where their money is going. 861 00:38:23,269 --> 00:38:25,038 What are we prioritizing as a city 862 00:38:25,038 --> 00:38:26,406 and how does our budget reflect that? 863 00:38:26,406 --> 00:38:28,008 So I know it's a lot of information. 864 00:38:28,008 --> 00:38:29,109 So I appreciate you, 865 00:38:29,109 --> 00:38:31,678 condensing it down in a way that that folks can understand it. 866 00:38:31,678 --> 00:38:34,080 And I look forward to our future conversations. 867 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,048 Thanks, mayor. 868 00:38:35,048 --> 00:38:36,850 Well said. Thank you. 869 00:38:36,850 --> 00:38:38,685 Seeing no other comments or questions. 870 00:38:38,685 --> 00:38:39,519 Thank you. Okay, 871 00:38:40,687 --> 00:38:43,690 so, Madam Clerk, please read item number six. 872 00:38:44,157 --> 00:38:46,326 Item six presentation and discussion 873 00:38:46,326 --> 00:38:47,827 pertaining to proposed updates 874 00:38:47,827 --> 00:38:50,830 to the comprehensive citywide fee schedule. 875 00:38:52,098 --> 00:38:54,267 All right. 876 00:38:54,267 --> 00:38:57,270 Moving on to the next pack. 877 00:39:01,641 --> 00:39:03,777 Okay. 878 00:39:03,777 --> 00:39:04,377 Our citywide 879 00:39:04,377 --> 00:39:07,347 fee schedule is something that we look at annually. 880 00:39:07,547 --> 00:39:10,050 The purpose of our fee schedule is to recover the costs 881 00:39:10,050 --> 00:39:13,053 associated with city programs and services. 882 00:39:13,653 --> 00:39:16,122 We need these fees to help offset operating costs 883 00:39:16,122 --> 00:39:19,125 with a balance of affordability versus sustainability. 884 00:39:19,592 --> 00:39:22,228 They are examined and updated annually. 885 00:39:22,228 --> 00:39:25,198 We adhere to statutes and policies to get us there. 886 00:39:25,498 --> 00:39:28,201 I want to mention that our fees cover the entire city, 887 00:39:28,201 --> 00:39:29,369 and that the majority of them 888 00:39:29,369 --> 00:39:32,372 are cost recovery for our time and services. 889 00:39:32,639 --> 00:39:34,708 For example, charges for services 890 00:39:34,708 --> 00:39:37,677 are based on community versus individual benefit. 891 00:39:37,811 --> 00:39:40,447 High individual benefit equals low general fund 892 00:39:40,447 --> 00:39:43,450 subsidy to offset programs. 893 00:39:43,616 --> 00:39:44,517 Parks and rec. 894 00:39:44,517 --> 00:39:47,487 But not all Parks and Rec is supported by fees. 895 00:39:47,554 --> 00:39:50,557 It is also subsidized by our taxes. 896 00:39:50,924 --> 00:39:53,893 Not all programs are 100% cost recovery. 897 00:39:53,893 --> 00:39:55,729 And Holly will be up here joining me 898 00:39:55,729 --> 00:39:58,732 for our next presentation to go over our park programs 899 00:39:58,932 --> 00:40:01,568 development services growth pays for growth. 900 00:40:01,568 --> 00:40:04,237 Fees are a direct correlation of our costs for service 901 00:40:06,006 --> 00:40:07,974 in compliance with state statute. 902 00:40:07,974 --> 00:40:11,277 We have to issue a public notice for any new or increase fees. 903 00:40:11,811 --> 00:40:14,714 A public notice is not required for lowering or eliminating 904 00:40:14,714 --> 00:40:17,717 a fee or any text changes to that fee. 905 00:40:17,817 --> 00:40:19,152 There are fees that are exempt 906 00:40:19,152 --> 00:40:22,122 that won't be on our fee schedule. 907 00:40:22,122 --> 00:40:24,891 Tonight, I am here to go over some of the updates that we will 908 00:40:24,891 --> 00:40:28,194 be issuing the public notice for tomorrow, actually. 909 00:40:29,829 --> 00:40:32,098 CDD has three new fees and amending 910 00:40:32,098 --> 00:40:35,101 seven biomedical amending two 911 00:40:35,902 --> 00:40:36,770 human services. 912 00:40:36,770 --> 00:40:41,574 Community vitality has 16 new and amending for parks, 913 00:40:41,574 --> 00:40:44,611 12 new, 12 removed amending two 914 00:40:45,178 --> 00:40:48,181 and our water resource management 915 00:40:48,948 --> 00:40:50,050 are removing ten. 916 00:40:50,050 --> 00:40:53,053 But they're just going to the the rate schedule, 917 00:40:53,620 --> 00:40:56,089 which is posted on their website. 918 00:40:56,089 --> 00:40:57,924 I'm going to highlight what some of these updates 919 00:40:57,924 --> 00:40:59,192 are on the next few slides. 920 00:41:01,061 --> 00:41:02,962 One of the new fees for community 921 00:41:02,962 --> 00:41:04,664 development is to allow applicants 922 00:41:04,664 --> 00:41:07,000 to request an expedited plan review, 923 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,135 if they have a history of compliance. 924 00:41:09,135 --> 00:41:11,004 This fees to recover administrative 925 00:41:11,004 --> 00:41:12,138 and operational costs 926 00:41:12,138 --> 00:41:15,475 that are associated with that expedited review. 927 00:41:15,875 --> 00:41:18,478 This fee is being brought forth to align with Arizona 928 00:41:18,478 --> 00:41:21,448 House Bill 2447. 929 00:41:22,615 --> 00:41:25,852 Human Services and Community Vitality is implementing 930 00:41:25,852 --> 00:41:28,221 a new program fee for the planned outings 931 00:41:28,221 --> 00:41:31,224 and trips for senior center members and nonmembers. 932 00:41:32,926 --> 00:41:36,029 One of park's updates to their fees is increasing tennis 933 00:41:36,029 --> 00:41:38,998 court rentals to both residents and nonresidents. 934 00:41:41,267 --> 00:41:41,735 Parks 935 00:41:41,735 --> 00:41:44,771 is removing fees associated with group tennis 936 00:41:44,771 --> 00:41:48,008 court rentals after 4 p.m., sticking with a single rate 937 00:41:48,008 --> 00:41:51,011 per court regardless of time of day. 938 00:41:52,112 --> 00:41:54,147 And community development is also making 939 00:41:54,147 --> 00:41:56,116 updates to the name of two of their fees 940 00:41:56,116 --> 00:41:58,051 to better align with their operations. 941 00:42:00,687 --> 00:42:01,721 With that, the timeline. 942 00:42:01,721 --> 00:42:03,656 Tomorrow we will post a public notice 943 00:42:03,656 --> 00:42:05,258 with the new and updated fees, 944 00:42:05,258 --> 00:42:06,993 and I will be back on April 7th for 945 00:42:06,993 --> 00:42:09,996 you guys to take action on the updates of the fee schedule. 946 00:42:11,231 --> 00:42:13,767 Any questions or comments? 947 00:42:13,767 --> 00:42:15,769 Council 948 00:42:15,769 --> 00:42:18,772 Councilman Hastings. 949 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:20,240 Thank you. 950 00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:20,907 Mayor. 951 00:42:20,907 --> 00:42:23,209 Could you go back to the side with the, chart on it? 952 00:42:23,209 --> 00:42:26,046 I think it was towards the beginning. 953 00:42:26,046 --> 00:42:26,746 Awesome. Thank you. 954 00:42:26,746 --> 00:42:30,150 So I know, like, when I first start in this role, 955 00:42:30,150 --> 00:42:31,584 you know, we would do this kind of every year 956 00:42:31,584 --> 00:42:33,286 and you know, obviously fees, 957 00:42:33,286 --> 00:42:35,455 you know, go up and it's not exciting. 958 00:42:35,455 --> 00:42:38,291 But at the end of the day someone has to pay for it. 959 00:42:38,291 --> 00:42:38,458 Right? 960 00:42:38,458 --> 00:42:39,959 So if the person isn't paying 961 00:42:39,959 --> 00:42:41,761 for the service, right, then we're subsidizing it. 962 00:42:41,761 --> 00:42:44,297 And so especially when someone's paying for something 963 00:42:44,297 --> 00:42:45,265 like club Swim, 964 00:42:45,265 --> 00:42:47,067 which is beyond the recreation 965 00:42:47,067 --> 00:42:50,036 swim or beyond swim lessons, it's just different program. 966 00:42:50,270 --> 00:42:53,573 But you know, I, you know, a few years ago, I know last year 967 00:42:53,606 --> 00:42:54,708 we took a look, I was like, okay, 968 00:42:54,708 --> 00:42:56,009 if we're going to raise some, can we at least, 969 00:42:56,009 --> 00:42:58,611 you know, go through and eliminate some too. 970 00:42:58,611 --> 00:42:59,679 And so I think we eliminated 971 00:42:59,679 --> 00:43:03,450 nine last year and this year's is 22. 972 00:43:03,450 --> 00:43:04,050 And that's awesome 973 00:43:04,050 --> 00:43:05,919 because even though on here you see 974 00:43:05,919 --> 00:43:09,556 three for community development those are fees for developers. 975 00:43:09,989 --> 00:43:11,057 And then as far as you know eight 976 00:43:11,057 --> 00:43:12,659 if you're wondering what HSC, 977 00:43:12,659 --> 00:43:15,128 the it's human services community vitality department, 978 00:43:15,128 --> 00:43:16,463 we have a new resource center. 979 00:43:16,463 --> 00:43:17,097 So that's just a 980 00:43:17,097 --> 00:43:21,000 brand new building that doesn't have any fee schedule at all. 981 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,903 So we're kind of implementing that for the first time. 982 00:43:23,903 --> 00:43:26,006 And then yeah, you know Parks and Rec is has 12 983 00:43:26,006 --> 00:43:27,207 but they're getting rid of 12. 984 00:43:27,207 --> 00:43:28,842 And then you know is you know a little different. 985 00:43:28,842 --> 00:43:32,278 So I'm really glad the city is, you know, trying to work. 986 00:43:32,278 --> 00:43:33,413 And so we're trying to, 987 00:43:33,413 --> 00:43:35,281 you know, make life more affordable for residents. 988 00:43:35,281 --> 00:43:36,716 Obviously we've been going on. 989 00:43:36,716 --> 00:43:38,718 And so thank you for your guys's work on this. 990 00:43:38,718 --> 00:43:39,152 I know I've, 991 00:43:39,152 --> 00:43:40,020 you know, with fees I've, 992 00:43:40,020 --> 00:43:42,022 I make a few calls and ask questions, 993 00:43:42,022 --> 00:43:44,024 but it really seems like you guys have 994 00:43:44,024 --> 00:43:45,725 you guys have done your due diligence and 995 00:43:46,893 --> 00:43:48,795 and people are kind of getting what they're paying for. 996 00:43:48,795 --> 00:43:51,731 So thank you. Thank you. 997 00:43:51,731 --> 00:43:52,432 All right. 998 00:43:52,432 --> 00:43:55,435 Thank you all said 999 00:43:55,602 --> 00:43:56,169 thanks. 1000 00:43:56,169 --> 00:43:59,172 Okay. 1001 00:43:59,339 --> 00:44:02,208 Madam clerk, please read item number seven. 1002 00:44:02,208 --> 00:44:04,310 Item seven presentation and discussion 1003 00:44:04,310 --> 00:44:06,780 pertaining to Parks and recreation programs. 1004 00:44:06,780 --> 00:44:09,616 Do you want to spend 1005 00:44:09,616 --> 00:44:12,052 all you want to do? 1006 00:44:12,052 --> 00:44:13,219 You need to stand the whole time. 1007 00:44:13,219 --> 00:44:16,222 Okay. 1008 00:44:16,289 --> 00:44:17,924 I'm going to sit. 1009 00:44:17,924 --> 00:44:18,558 Please do. 1010 00:44:18,558 --> 00:44:21,461 Sandy has a brief 45 slide 1011 00:44:21,461 --> 00:44:24,464 presentation on Parks and Rec. 1012 00:44:24,931 --> 00:44:25,231 Sorry. 1013 00:44:25,231 --> 00:44:26,900 Good evening, Mayor and Council. 1014 00:44:26,900 --> 00:44:28,935 Good evening, Mrs. Osborne. How are you? 1015 00:44:28,935 --> 00:44:30,837 I'm wonderful. Good, good. 1016 00:44:30,837 --> 00:44:33,640 And so, just before you start, what one of the things I talked 1017 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,543 to the city manager about, Miss Davis, is that, 1018 00:44:36,543 --> 00:44:39,479 you know, we have these programs and and we implement things. 1019 00:44:39,479 --> 00:44:40,947 And I don't think there was ever. 1020 00:44:40,947 --> 00:44:41,614 And I know the staff 1021 00:44:41,614 --> 00:44:42,248 does the review, 1022 00:44:42,248 --> 00:44:44,351 but it never really came to council as far as 1023 00:44:44,351 --> 00:44:45,885 is this program effective? 1024 00:44:45,885 --> 00:44:49,289 Are we gonna continue it I think for me or. 1025 00:44:49,289 --> 00:44:51,057 But I'm not gonna speak for the council. 1026 00:44:51,057 --> 00:44:52,592 But it's important that we review these programs 1027 00:44:52,592 --> 00:44:52,992 to make sure 1028 00:44:52,992 --> 00:44:55,128 that we're putting the money where, 1029 00:44:55,128 --> 00:44:55,528 you know, 1030 00:44:55,528 --> 00:44:57,430 where the residents want us to put money 1031 00:44:57,430 --> 00:44:58,631 and where the programs that they need 1032 00:44:58,631 --> 00:45:00,500 based on usage, all those different things. So, 1033 00:45:01,501 --> 00:45:02,402 Miss Osborne, I appreciate 1034 00:45:02,402 --> 00:45:03,503 you being the first one 1035 00:45:03,503 --> 00:45:04,137 to present, 1036 00:45:04,137 --> 00:45:06,172 but it's important that we do our residents 1037 00:45:06,172 --> 00:45:08,375 so that we do review all of our programs every year 1038 00:45:08,375 --> 00:45:11,378 through the budget process and, and, 1039 00:45:11,678 --> 00:45:14,080 make cuts where we have to. 1040 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:14,481 Yes. Well, 1041 00:45:14,481 --> 00:45:15,015 that doesn't mean I'm 1042 00:45:15,015 --> 00:45:16,583 the first department to get cut it 1043 00:45:16,583 --> 00:45:18,952 just all right in the first department. 1044 00:45:18,952 --> 00:45:21,888 So wanted to make sure that was clear. 1045 00:45:21,888 --> 00:45:24,958 But we're going to go in just to talk about our budget 1046 00:45:24,958 --> 00:45:27,127 and go over our revenues, our expenses 1047 00:45:27,127 --> 00:45:29,763 and what we allocate those expenses for. 1048 00:45:29,763 --> 00:45:31,698 And, to council. 1049 00:45:31,698 --> 00:45:32,732 And Hastings Point is, 1050 00:45:32,732 --> 00:45:35,201 how do we come up with our fees and what is our balance. 1051 00:45:35,201 --> 00:45:36,503 So we'll go through that. 1052 00:45:36,503 --> 00:45:39,439 I'll be as fast as possible. 1053 00:45:39,439 --> 00:45:40,774 But also get my point across. 1054 00:45:40,774 --> 00:45:42,175 Okay. Here we go. 1055 00:45:42,175 --> 00:45:44,544 I'm going to start off with the budget. 1056 00:45:44,544 --> 00:45:47,247 So a FY 26 general fund expense 1057 00:45:47,247 --> 00:45:51,117 budget for Parks and Recreation is $17 million. 1058 00:45:51,985 --> 00:45:54,521 That budget is, broken out. 1059 00:45:54,521 --> 00:45:59,793 As you can see, park maintenance is our biggest portion, 32%. 1060 00:46:00,060 --> 00:46:03,763 There is very little cost recovery there, if at all. 1061 00:46:05,131 --> 00:46:05,832 And then we have our 1062 00:46:05,832 --> 00:46:08,835 aquatics and our recreation programs as such. 1063 00:46:09,002 --> 00:46:09,569 And Holly 1064 00:46:09,569 --> 00:46:12,539 will go into more detail on each one of these programs. 1065 00:46:14,307 --> 00:46:15,608 But this is 1066 00:46:15,608 --> 00:46:18,611 how the budget is broken out 1067 00:46:18,778 --> 00:46:20,647 and then charges for services. 1068 00:46:20,647 --> 00:46:22,215 Budget is 3.5 million. 1069 00:46:22,215 --> 00:46:25,118 So going back you see 17 million. 1070 00:46:25,118 --> 00:46:29,656 And we budgeted for 3.5 million cost recovery for them 1071 00:46:29,656 --> 00:46:30,557 this year. 1072 00:46:30,557 --> 00:46:35,462 And of that 3.5 million, 60% of that is within 1073 00:46:35,862 --> 00:46:37,464 their recreation programs. 1074 00:46:37,464 --> 00:46:39,933 And with that, I'm going to pass it over to Holly. 1075 00:46:39,933 --> 00:46:42,168 So what does that mean for Parks and Recreation? 1076 00:46:42,168 --> 00:46:44,904 We will never be able to move out of our parents basement. 1077 00:46:44,904 --> 00:46:48,608 We will always rely on the general fund for funding, 1078 00:46:49,142 --> 00:46:50,877 unless we start charging for each 1079 00:46:50,877 --> 00:46:53,580 one of these different amenities and we'll go through 1080 00:46:53,580 --> 00:46:54,681 and kind of talk about that, 1081 00:46:54,681 --> 00:46:57,717 but how we end up doing our charges for services, 1082 00:46:57,717 --> 00:46:58,418 we notice them 1083 00:46:58,418 --> 00:47:00,854 because if we're charging a service and city government 1084 00:47:00,854 --> 00:47:02,822 is charging, it's essentially a tax, right. 1085 00:47:04,024 --> 00:47:06,059 So we try to use our general 1086 00:47:06,059 --> 00:47:09,629 fund subsidies to benefit the greatest amount of people. 1087 00:47:10,063 --> 00:47:13,233 But then as we shrink into more of those special interests, 1088 00:47:13,233 --> 00:47:16,369 like we had talked about clubs swimming, then we go into, 1089 00:47:16,369 --> 00:47:19,673 okay, now you have to pay for 100% of those direct cost. 1090 00:47:20,006 --> 00:47:22,442 So case in point, a city park. 1091 00:47:22,442 --> 00:47:26,513 We get 0% recovery on the scale of the 3.5. 1092 00:47:26,646 --> 00:47:29,983 But adult sports you don't have to play adult sports. 1093 00:47:29,983 --> 00:47:31,551 It is a niche. 1094 00:47:31,551 --> 00:47:33,453 So they pay 100%. 1095 00:47:33,453 --> 00:47:36,189 And I do say direct costs so they don't pay the indirect 1096 00:47:36,189 --> 00:47:38,758 as far as like that staffing in that. 1097 00:47:38,758 --> 00:47:40,293 But they do pay all of the direct costs. 1098 00:47:40,293 --> 00:47:44,164 And we do go through our budgets every year and we try them up. 1099 00:47:44,531 --> 00:47:45,398 We try to bring 1100 00:47:45,398 --> 00:47:47,367 if we can bring in more money, that's good for us 1101 00:47:47,367 --> 00:47:49,736 because then we can expend more money. 1102 00:47:49,736 --> 00:47:52,505 We try to be as self-sufficient as possible, but again, 1103 00:47:52,505 --> 00:47:53,440 we never will. 1104 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:57,077 Aquatics is another one where we we do bring in some money 1105 00:47:57,077 --> 00:47:59,012 more than our park services. 1106 00:47:59,012 --> 00:48:01,047 But open swim is something 1107 00:48:01,047 --> 00:48:02,782 that with especially with our new pool, 1108 00:48:02,782 --> 00:48:06,119 our numbers are 85,000 people go to our pools, 1109 00:48:06,419 --> 00:48:10,123 but our swim teams, we have like 400 our swim lessons. 1110 00:48:10,323 --> 00:48:12,158 We just try to cover our staff costs. 1111 00:48:12,158 --> 00:48:14,427 We'll try to get 30 to 50%. 1112 00:48:14,427 --> 00:48:17,030 So we do have a cost recovery model based on that. 1113 00:48:17,030 --> 00:48:18,698 So parks is 0%. 1114 00:48:18,698 --> 00:48:20,834 Then you have the greater good. Like our adaptive. 1115 00:48:20,834 --> 00:48:21,534 We try to make 1116 00:48:21,534 --> 00:48:24,571 some our swim lessons just to cover a little bit. 1117 00:48:25,271 --> 00:48:27,640 But it's never going to be 100% recoverable. 1118 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:28,708 And we could make it that. 1119 00:48:28,708 --> 00:48:31,011 But your fees are going to be a lot. 1120 00:48:31,011 --> 00:48:32,278 But then you go into youth sports, 1121 00:48:32,278 --> 00:48:35,181 which is 50 to 75%, but then you go into adults 1122 00:48:35,181 --> 00:48:37,584 and rentals and that's 100% recoverable. 1123 00:48:37,584 --> 00:48:39,986 So that makes sense. 1124 00:48:39,986 --> 00:48:42,722 I will always look a quick while we're on this slide. 1125 00:48:42,722 --> 00:48:45,458 The park maintenance of 5% revenue here, 1126 00:48:45,458 --> 00:48:48,461 that is, for the maintenance of Marley Park. 1127 00:48:48,628 --> 00:48:51,598 So it is just it's like 1128 00:48:51,598 --> 00:48:55,168 less than $300,000, $211,000. 1129 00:48:55,168 --> 00:48:57,971 And it's the owner for the Marley Park CFDs. 1130 00:48:57,971 --> 00:48:59,639 So we can only spend on maintenance 1131 00:48:59,639 --> 00:49:01,241 and we can't spend it on staff. 1132 00:49:01,241 --> 00:49:02,909 So it's only for supplies and services. 1133 00:49:04,577 --> 00:49:05,879 Very fun facts. 1134 00:49:05,879 --> 00:49:08,882 So speaking of park maintenance, 1135 00:49:09,149 --> 00:49:12,152 we support over 700 field rentals a year. 1136 00:49:12,152 --> 00:49:13,286 These are just little fun facts. 1137 00:49:13,286 --> 00:49:15,355 You know how I love fun facts? 1138 00:49:15,355 --> 00:49:18,658 Our parks do playground maintenance remodels. 1139 00:49:18,658 --> 00:49:20,560 We to our lake quality. 1140 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,831 We take care of, fish, animals, stock the lake with fish. 1141 00:49:24,831 --> 00:49:28,268 We have dog park maintenance, all of the turf maintenance, 1142 00:49:28,268 --> 00:49:32,138 the mowing, field repairs of all sorts. So, 1143 00:49:33,340 --> 00:49:37,077 of our parks, these are a snippet of all of them. 1144 00:49:37,077 --> 00:49:38,812 Our newest baby is McMeekin. 1145 00:49:38,812 --> 00:49:42,449 It used to be Oasis, but, we we gave you this one. 1146 00:49:43,817 --> 00:49:46,152 But kind of going into how we allocate these 1147 00:49:46,152 --> 00:49:47,053 and what this looks like. 1148 00:49:47,053 --> 00:49:50,056 This may be my favorite slide that I put in here. 1149 00:49:50,523 --> 00:49:53,560 We wouldn't have been able to get this data without our place 1150 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,663 or AI software, so we're pretty new into this. 1151 00:49:56,663 --> 00:49:59,599 But you can see that surprise community Park 1152 00:49:59,599 --> 00:50:01,468 gets over a million visitors a year. 1153 00:50:01,468 --> 00:50:02,402 Like I said, it's 1154 00:50:02,402 --> 00:50:05,505 one of the top ten most popular parks in Arizona, 1155 00:50:05,505 --> 00:50:07,407 and that is up there with the Grand Canyon. 1156 00:50:07,407 --> 00:50:10,076 So we're doing something right there. 1157 00:50:10,076 --> 00:50:13,513 So 40% pretty close to the Grand Canyon. 1158 00:50:14,848 --> 00:50:17,817 Marley Park Heritage Park is, 1159 00:50:18,385 --> 00:50:18,852 second. 1160 00:50:18,852 --> 00:50:21,788 Then we have Dick McComb, then fields at countryside. 1161 00:50:21,788 --> 00:50:22,922 That's our newest one. 1162 00:50:22,922 --> 00:50:24,758 And then a sante. 1163 00:50:24,758 --> 00:50:27,827 It's very popular park and then Oasis Swim Center, 1164 00:50:27,827 --> 00:50:33,333 our newest one, and this is based on 25 data from placer. 1165 00:50:33,333 --> 00:50:35,301 There's some things that, 1166 00:50:35,301 --> 00:50:37,737 two Councilman's Judd's looking at me. 1167 00:50:37,737 --> 00:50:40,707 I wanted to talk about mCMC, and just for a nanosecond, 1168 00:50:41,374 --> 00:50:43,109 with getting the placer I. 1169 00:50:43,109 --> 00:50:46,312 Because the area mass is so big, because you did 1170 00:50:46,312 --> 00:50:47,313 such a wonderful job 1171 00:50:47,313 --> 00:50:50,517 of securing 3500 acres for the city and its residents, 1172 00:50:50,884 --> 00:50:54,487 we haven't narrowed down those parameters of the heat maps. 1173 00:50:55,155 --> 00:50:56,389 So we're getting permission from those. 1174 00:50:56,389 --> 00:50:59,492 So I do have an asterisk just to know that it is low, 1175 00:50:59,492 --> 00:51:00,527 but it's not that low. 1176 00:51:00,527 --> 00:51:01,928 That's just a certain percentage 1177 00:51:01,928 --> 00:51:04,164 that we could get the geo fencing around. 1178 00:51:04,164 --> 00:51:05,465 But that should increase. 1179 00:51:05,465 --> 00:51:07,534 So we'll we'll get that one. 1180 00:51:07,534 --> 00:51:08,168 But I did want to 1181 00:51:08,168 --> 00:51:11,171 put it on there because it is one of our newest facilities. 1182 00:51:11,304 --> 00:51:14,074 But this kind of goes to show of all of this 1183 00:51:14,074 --> 00:51:16,443 to almost 3 million visitors a year. 1184 00:51:16,443 --> 00:51:17,677 They're not unique. 1185 00:51:17,677 --> 00:51:18,645 These could be 1186 00:51:18,645 --> 00:51:20,847 they go to the pool and then they go to the park, 1187 00:51:20,847 --> 00:51:22,482 and then they go to the tennis center. 1188 00:51:22,482 --> 00:51:23,817 But this is just total 1189 00:51:23,817 --> 00:51:25,919 based on our placer I and our heat map. 1190 00:51:25,919 --> 00:51:28,388 So, just kind of give you a snippet 1191 00:51:28,388 --> 00:51:32,025 of our 165,000 residents that we have here. 1192 00:51:32,392 --> 00:51:34,094 They do enjoy our parks. 1193 00:51:34,094 --> 00:51:39,432 And it's evident in this, that we don't charge money for. So, 1194 00:51:40,667 --> 00:51:42,535 another thing that we have very low to 1195 00:51:42,535 --> 00:51:44,270 minimal cost is our special events 1196 00:51:44,270 --> 00:51:46,606 that are also very highly attended. 1197 00:51:46,606 --> 00:51:48,908 Backyard Bash is our newest one 1198 00:51:48,908 --> 00:51:51,911 that is our 90s throwback this Friday. 1199 00:51:52,846 --> 00:51:54,981 It's going to be 80 degrees and we're going to add 1200 00:51:54,981 --> 00:51:57,984 the other ten degrees and coolness. 1201 00:51:58,084 --> 00:52:00,120 That's a weather joke for you. 1202 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,089 Because I have a tendency to rain out events. 1203 00:52:03,089 --> 00:52:06,359 That was just shameless, I know, oh, I have just one. 1204 00:52:06,559 --> 00:52:08,728 I have a debate in my house is a 90s, like, 1205 00:52:08,728 --> 00:52:10,997 fluorescent 90s or 90s like alternative 90s. 1206 00:52:10,997 --> 00:52:12,032 We're trying to figure out which. 1207 00:52:12,032 --> 00:52:13,967 And it could be 90s hip hop. 1208 00:52:13,967 --> 00:52:17,337 Like it depends on or grunge, like, who were you in the 90s? 1209 00:52:17,337 --> 00:52:19,739 There's no we're not 90s country. 1210 00:52:19,739 --> 00:52:22,075 Probably the best era of country ever. 1211 00:52:22,075 --> 00:52:24,911 I think people agree with me back here. 1212 00:52:24,911 --> 00:52:26,713 So we're it's it's a variety. 1213 00:52:26,713 --> 00:52:29,616 We're going to that's why we did a DJ instead of a band. 1214 00:52:29,616 --> 00:52:32,919 So we can get four non blonds and Tim McGraw playing 1215 00:52:32,919 --> 00:52:36,556 in the same four hours, but you can't get that in a band. 1216 00:52:36,990 --> 00:52:39,826 So saying you an interesting. 1217 00:52:39,826 --> 00:52:41,861 Okay. Back to 4th of July. 1218 00:52:41,861 --> 00:52:44,130 America's 250th birthday. 1219 00:52:44,130 --> 00:52:46,833 4th of July is one of our heavily attended events. 1220 00:52:46,833 --> 00:52:47,300 This year. 1221 00:52:47,300 --> 00:52:50,103 We have bigger, better fireworks. 1222 00:52:50,103 --> 00:52:52,539 Something really special if I can pull it off. 1223 00:52:54,074 --> 00:52:55,842 Which I hope I can, I might lose my job. 1224 00:52:55,842 --> 00:53:00,080 But Fiesta Grande is our fall fest with about 9000 1225 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,083 Veterans Day, 8000 prize party, 1226 00:53:03,850 --> 00:53:07,520 14,000 per day, which is Friday Saturday. 1227 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,690 So almost 30,000 collectively over that two day weekend. 1228 00:53:10,690 --> 00:53:13,893 And then sparkling surprise the month of December, 1229 00:53:13,893 --> 00:53:16,062 not including the surprise party weekend. 1230 00:53:16,062 --> 00:53:19,566 We had over 32,000 visitors at the community park. 1231 00:53:20,066 --> 00:53:24,137 So again, we don't charge a lot of revenue for those, 1232 00:53:24,137 --> 00:53:27,240 but those would things that would be easily cut 1233 00:53:28,008 --> 00:53:30,210 should you look at a budget. 1234 00:53:30,210 --> 00:53:33,213 But looking at the numbers, that's how we tried to 1235 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:34,914 the cost benefit. 1236 00:53:34,914 --> 00:53:37,317 So it's Osborne? Yes, sir. 1237 00:53:37,317 --> 00:53:39,019 Hastings. Other question. Yes, sir. 1238 00:53:39,019 --> 00:53:39,486 No. I'm sorry. 1239 00:53:39,486 --> 00:53:41,488 I remember when Donna came up here. 1240 00:53:41,488 --> 00:53:42,655 I think when I first got on the council, 1241 00:53:42,655 --> 00:53:44,157 I think she might have showed us that, 1242 00:53:44,157 --> 00:53:46,359 you know, how do you measure recovery? 1243 00:53:46,359 --> 00:53:46,960 And we all say like. 1244 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,695 Like we like to run government like a business. 1245 00:53:48,695 --> 00:53:50,830 But there are certain things that are a service, right? 1246 00:53:50,830 --> 00:53:53,833 We're not in the, you know, trash business to, to, 1247 00:53:53,867 --> 00:53:55,769 to make money or to take money from residents. 1248 00:53:55,769 --> 00:53:57,203 We're trying to offer that service. 1249 00:53:57,203 --> 00:53:58,338 And so the way it was described 1250 00:53:58,338 --> 00:54:00,807 me then, and I think what you're saying is, 1251 00:54:00,807 --> 00:54:03,443 you know, obviously there's certain things like, 1252 00:54:03,443 --> 00:54:06,579 Councilman, he's done a great job with helping kids 1253 00:54:06,579 --> 00:54:08,348 get some lessons. Right. 1254 00:54:08,348 --> 00:54:10,316 It's a huge benefit to the community 1255 00:54:10,316 --> 00:54:12,686 that we do try to, you know, I guess you could say subsidized 1256 00:54:12,686 --> 00:54:15,555 may cheaper because it's a it's a safety thing, you know, or, 1257 00:54:16,890 --> 00:54:18,458 you know, surprise party sparkling 1258 00:54:18,458 --> 00:54:21,127 surprise that the benefit there is just so much to me 1259 00:54:21,127 --> 00:54:22,228 that this kind of where it's measured. 1260 00:54:22,228 --> 00:54:23,797 Now, obviously, if you get back on the other side, 1261 00:54:23,797 --> 00:54:25,598 we talked about Club Swim 1262 00:54:25,598 --> 00:54:29,402 or this is sports and tourism, but VIP seats at the concert 1263 00:54:29,402 --> 00:54:31,137 versus like, you know, regular ones, 1264 00:54:31,137 --> 00:54:33,239 that is less benefit to the community, 1265 00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,375 less benefits to any member of the individual. 1266 00:54:35,375 --> 00:54:38,745 And so you would require for that a higher cost recovery. 1267 00:54:38,745 --> 00:54:40,847 And so I know I've, I've seen that in the past. 1268 00:54:40,847 --> 00:54:43,917 And so, we we appreciate the work you do. 1269 00:54:43,917 --> 00:54:44,651 And, you know, 1270 00:54:44,651 --> 00:54:47,454 if we were making money at the public pool, 1271 00:54:47,454 --> 00:54:49,189 we'd probably be charging a lot more. 1272 00:54:49,189 --> 00:54:50,590 So definitely. 1273 00:54:50,590 --> 00:54:50,890 But, yeah, 1274 00:54:50,890 --> 00:54:52,158 people can use the pool, but, you know, 1275 00:54:52,158 --> 00:54:53,727 you want to rent a room for, 1276 00:54:53,727 --> 00:54:55,495 you know, a birthday rental, something like that. 1277 00:54:55,495 --> 00:54:56,830 That's a little bit different, right? Right. 1278 00:54:56,830 --> 00:54:57,764 Absolutely awesome. 1279 00:54:57,764 --> 00:55:00,300 And for those of you guys who haven't been to a 1280 00:55:00,300 --> 00:55:03,570 sparkling surprise or surprise party next holiday season, 1281 00:55:03,570 --> 00:55:05,271 you guys should definitely come check it out. 1282 00:55:05,271 --> 00:55:06,940 You know, as I always say, my favorite title, 1283 00:55:06,940 --> 00:55:08,708 but I say that about so many things 1284 00:55:08,708 --> 00:55:10,477 that my team laughs at me all the time. 1285 00:55:10,477 --> 00:55:12,445 But that was my favorite. But the pools are my favorite. 1286 00:55:12,445 --> 00:55:14,280 But the Christmas is my favorite. 1287 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:15,982 Puppies are my favorite. 1288 00:55:15,982 --> 00:55:16,783 I could go on. 1289 00:55:16,783 --> 00:55:18,818 I have lots of favorites. 1290 00:55:18,818 --> 00:55:21,788 So speaking of favorites, youth and adult sports, 1291 00:55:21,788 --> 00:55:24,057 I would say that this is a community favorite. 1292 00:55:24,057 --> 00:55:27,260 We have 16 different youth sports programs 1293 00:55:27,260 --> 00:55:28,294 which go into that's 1294 00:55:28,294 --> 00:55:30,030 two seasons, a baseball, two seasons, 1295 00:55:30,030 --> 00:55:32,198 a softball, two seasons, a basketball. 1296 00:55:32,198 --> 00:55:34,634 But in all those seasons combined, we have over 1297 00:55:34,634 --> 00:55:38,004 15,000 kids that are in our youth sports program, 1298 00:55:39,172 --> 00:55:39,906 where we talk 1299 00:55:39,906 --> 00:55:42,942 about trying to maximize our facilities. 1300 00:55:42,942 --> 00:55:46,946 We our team does an amazing job of trying to make sure 1301 00:55:46,946 --> 00:55:51,518 we can get as many kids in for as little fees as possible. 1302 00:55:51,518 --> 00:55:54,788 So to, Councilman's Hastings Point, 1303 00:55:54,788 --> 00:55:56,456 when you get into the club level, 1304 00:55:56,456 --> 00:55:58,658 you're spending a lot of money now. 1305 00:55:58,658 --> 00:56:01,995 So our volleyball program is $80 for eight weeks. 1306 00:56:01,995 --> 00:56:02,896 I'm not going to tell you 1307 00:56:02,896 --> 00:56:04,197 what I spend on my kids club 1308 00:56:04,197 --> 00:56:05,065 volleyball and mayor, I'm 1309 00:56:05,065 --> 00:56:06,566 not going to ask you what you spend on 1310 00:56:06,566 --> 00:56:09,135 your daughter's club volleyball, but it's a lot more than that. 1311 00:56:09,135 --> 00:56:10,804 But when you're paying for the coaches 1312 00:56:10,804 --> 00:56:13,440 and you're paying for the fields and you're paying for that, 1313 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,842 the travel, that's where your fees go in. 1314 00:56:15,842 --> 00:56:19,012 Our job in recreation is the city is exposure 1315 00:56:19,279 --> 00:56:22,549 to give kids the ability to learn new skills, 1316 00:56:22,549 --> 00:56:25,618 to make new friends, to learn teamwork, to get along. 1317 00:56:26,219 --> 00:56:27,420 Those are social skills 1318 00:56:27,420 --> 00:56:28,822 that they don't always get in school 1319 00:56:28,822 --> 00:56:31,191 and to find their niche and find their sport. 1320 00:56:31,191 --> 00:56:34,894 So, our youth sports is huge and our staff does amazing. 1321 00:56:34,894 --> 00:56:36,596 We used to have, council member 1322 00:56:36,596 --> 00:56:39,599 that was a wonderful red shirt is what we call them. 1323 00:56:39,766 --> 00:56:40,567 Back in the day. 1324 00:56:40,567 --> 00:56:44,504 So, our youth camps and clinics are growing in popularity. 1325 00:56:44,504 --> 00:56:45,872 So summertime is good. 1326 00:56:45,872 --> 00:56:49,242 We have clinics on getting ready for school sports or tryouts, 1327 00:56:49,843 --> 00:56:52,312 refreshers, skills developments. 1328 00:56:52,312 --> 00:56:54,547 Then we have teen tournaments which are growing. 1329 00:56:54,547 --> 00:56:56,149 We have a wiffle ball tournament coming up. 1330 00:56:56,149 --> 00:56:57,183 We started doing a beach 1331 00:56:57,183 --> 00:57:00,186 volleyball tournament for teens, which is sold out. 1332 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:01,421 And then our adult sports. 1333 00:57:01,421 --> 00:57:02,022 So you can see 1334 00:57:02,022 --> 00:57:06,259 we have 5000, 5000 people compared to 15,000 people. 1335 00:57:06,259 --> 00:57:08,128 You can see the difference of, 1336 00:57:08,128 --> 00:57:09,696 where we're putting our finances. 1337 00:57:09,696 --> 00:57:12,032 So we subsidize more for the youth, but not for the adults. 1338 00:57:13,233 --> 00:57:15,535 I'll just try to go faster. 1339 00:57:15,535 --> 00:57:16,503 Racket sports. 1340 00:57:16,503 --> 00:57:20,106 We have over 800 total programs of our tennis and classes, 1341 00:57:20,106 --> 00:57:23,309 so we racket ball is pickleball racket. 1342 00:57:23,309 --> 00:57:24,778 And then we also have pickleball 1343 00:57:24,778 --> 00:57:27,747 tournaments and tennis tournaments. So, 1344 00:57:28,648 --> 00:57:31,651 it's a little bit interesting because sports and tourism 1345 00:57:31,651 --> 00:57:32,852 does some of the tournaments. 1346 00:57:32,852 --> 00:57:35,321 And then we do the classes. 1347 00:57:35,321 --> 00:57:37,023 We're probably going to change that model. 1348 00:57:37,023 --> 00:57:39,559 If I haven't talked to you, we can talk after class 1349 00:57:39,559 --> 00:57:41,394 or maybe tomorrow. 1350 00:57:41,394 --> 00:57:43,697 But we have 17 pickleball tournaments 1351 00:57:43,697 --> 00:57:47,067 a year at our tennis facility where we have 25 courts. 1352 00:57:47,067 --> 00:57:49,069 So pickleball is all the rage. 1353 00:57:49,069 --> 00:57:51,171 It's huge, but tennis is still thriving. 1354 00:57:51,171 --> 00:57:54,374 And racket ball, those courts are full all the time, too. 1355 00:57:55,675 --> 00:57:57,777 Then our other side is youth, teen and adaptive. 1356 00:57:57,777 --> 00:57:59,679 So we have our summer camp break camp. 1357 00:57:59,679 --> 00:58:03,683 Those programs are 100% recoverable preschool program, 1358 00:58:03,683 --> 00:58:06,820 100% recoverable special, and two classes the same. 1359 00:58:07,287 --> 00:58:09,489 Special programs or not teen programs. 1360 00:58:09,489 --> 00:58:11,424 We subsidize and adaptive programs. 1361 00:58:11,424 --> 00:58:13,393 We subsidize. So, 1362 00:58:14,427 --> 00:58:15,261 going into that 1363 00:58:15,261 --> 00:58:18,264 aquatics and then that's another one of my favorite children, 1364 00:58:19,399 --> 00:58:19,833 swim. 1365 00:58:19,833 --> 00:58:21,101 I was a lifeguard when I was 16, 1366 00:58:21,101 --> 00:58:23,970 so I have to caveat it's my home, my right. 1367 00:58:23,970 --> 00:58:24,838 We have this. 1368 00:58:24,838 --> 00:58:25,839 So swim lessons. 1369 00:58:25,839 --> 00:58:26,639 We have almost 1370 00:58:26,639 --> 00:58:30,777 4000 kids in our swim lessons, which is a very big deal. 1371 00:58:30,777 --> 00:58:33,179 And thank you to mayor and council for making that happen. 1372 00:58:33,179 --> 00:58:36,149 We were at 1500 with almost 3000 on the waitlist 1373 00:58:36,149 --> 00:58:37,917 before we opened our new pool. 1374 00:58:37,917 --> 00:58:41,221 So, we definitely have made an impact on that. 1375 00:58:41,621 --> 00:58:46,793 We have over 500 participants in swim team, 8500 people 1376 00:58:46,793 --> 00:58:49,929 coming to our pools, our three pools that we have, 1377 00:58:50,764 --> 00:58:53,366 and then our special interest classes, 350. 1378 00:58:53,366 --> 00:58:54,701 So special interest classes, something 1379 00:58:54,701 --> 00:58:56,436 that's 100% recoverable. 1380 00:58:56,436 --> 00:58:58,004 Open swim is subsidized. 1381 00:58:58,004 --> 00:58:59,439 You can see the difference. 1382 00:58:59,439 --> 00:59:02,442 5085 what did I say? Million. 1383 00:59:02,709 --> 00:59:03,476 And I said 85. 1384 00:59:03,476 --> 00:59:05,578 I meant 85 million thousand to 1385 00:59:06,746 --> 00:59:08,848 get that one okay. 1386 00:59:08,848 --> 00:59:10,650 Questions I was fast I talked fast. 1387 00:59:10,650 --> 00:59:12,385 Did I do okay? 1388 00:59:12,385 --> 00:59:16,556 85,000,085 million people are here in surprise every day. 1389 00:59:17,290 --> 00:59:19,659 Or thousand. Which zeros are hard? 1390 00:59:19,659 --> 00:59:20,260 Oh, I almost 1391 00:59:20,260 --> 00:59:23,363 I just want to say thank you to you, your entire team. 1392 00:59:23,697 --> 00:59:24,764 What you provide for the city 1393 00:59:24,764 --> 00:59:26,633 is just an incredible thing for our residents. 1394 00:59:26,633 --> 00:59:30,070 I hear nothing but good things from all the events. 1395 00:59:30,270 --> 00:59:30,670 All of it. 1396 00:59:30,670 --> 00:59:33,073 And it's just, it's a treat to have it here in the city. 1397 00:59:33,073 --> 00:59:34,407 It's because of your effort 1398 00:59:34,407 --> 00:59:37,577 and your team's effort, and I am grateful for that. 1399 00:59:37,577 --> 00:59:38,478 So thank you. 1400 00:59:38,478 --> 00:59:39,179 Thank you. 1401 00:59:39,179 --> 00:59:41,047 Councilman, any 1402 00:59:41,047 --> 00:59:41,247 thank you. 1403 00:59:41,247 --> 00:59:42,182 Mayor Holley, 1404 00:59:42,182 --> 00:59:43,550 I do have a question and I have a comment. 1405 00:59:43,550 --> 00:59:46,486 So my question is and I apologize if I missed it. 1406 00:59:47,754 --> 00:59:48,855 Are we still getting a pretty 1407 00:59:48,855 --> 00:59:50,623 decent amount of attendance in those special 1408 00:59:50,623 --> 00:59:52,625 interest classes that we used to offer? 1409 00:59:52,625 --> 00:59:53,426 Are we still offering? 1410 00:59:53,426 --> 00:59:56,296 We're holding steady. Yeah, those ones are 100% recoverable. 1411 00:59:56,296 --> 00:59:58,298 Mine for the direct costs. Yeah. And yeah. 1412 00:59:58,298 --> 00:59:58,798 Look at it. 1413 00:59:58,798 --> 00:59:59,566 What? Where are we at? 1414 00:59:59,566 --> 01:00:01,668 It's on there somewhere. I skimmed past it. 1415 01:00:01,668 --> 01:00:04,537 Oh, there it is. 700 programs and 5000. 1416 01:00:04,537 --> 01:00:05,939 So it was similar to adult sports, 1417 01:00:05,939 --> 01:00:08,875 but we have more classes, so we'll have like a dance class 1418 01:00:08,875 --> 01:00:11,611 that only has like 12 kids, because you can only handle 1419 01:00:11,611 --> 01:00:13,913 so many three and four year olds at it to get it. 1420 01:00:13,913 --> 01:00:17,250 So and can you give us like a just a few examples of, 1421 01:00:17,517 --> 01:00:18,485 special interest classes? 1422 01:00:18,485 --> 01:00:21,488 I know you said dance, but there's a wide variety, right? 1423 01:00:21,588 --> 01:00:23,656 Anything you could think of that's not 1424 01:00:23,656 --> 01:00:25,425 involving a ball, really? 1425 01:00:25,425 --> 01:00:26,393 We have skateboards, 1426 01:00:26,393 --> 01:00:30,263 we have dance classes, we have tumbling is a huge one. 1427 01:00:30,697 --> 01:00:31,398 Cheer 1428 01:00:33,299 --> 01:00:35,035 martial arts. 1429 01:00:35,035 --> 01:00:35,902 Keep going. 1430 01:00:35,902 --> 01:00:37,771 Aqua aerobics. There's going to throw. 1431 01:00:37,771 --> 01:00:39,472 There's something for everybody. 1432 01:00:39,472 --> 01:00:40,540 Zumba dance. 1433 01:00:40,540 --> 01:00:40,840 We have a 1434 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:42,709 I think we have a 90s or some new, 1435 01:00:42,709 --> 01:00:46,880 like 40 year old women that are awesome dance class 1436 01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:47,180 that like, 1437 01:00:47,180 --> 01:00:49,315 we can go back into the 90s hip hop 1438 01:00:49,315 --> 01:00:51,651 and without our kids around making fun of us 1439 01:00:51,651 --> 01:00:53,620 and like really jam out like we used to 1440 01:00:53,620 --> 01:00:56,623 so that skating in popularity to the 90s are back. 1441 01:00:56,790 --> 01:00:57,791 I would have been good to know 1442 01:00:57,791 --> 01:01:00,794 a few weeks ago I would have taken that 1443 01:01:00,994 --> 01:01:02,829 weekend. Yeah. 1444 01:01:02,829 --> 01:01:03,963 Thank you. Thank you for your presentation. 1445 01:01:03,963 --> 01:01:06,232 I, you know, we're a multigenerational city, 1446 01:01:06,232 --> 01:01:10,303 and I think it's so important that we're investing in these 1447 01:01:10,303 --> 01:01:12,172 programs, obviously, aquatics. 1448 01:01:12,172 --> 01:01:12,706 You know, Jack 1449 01:01:12,706 --> 01:01:14,574 and I got our start in aquatics, as you did. 1450 01:01:14,574 --> 01:01:17,310 And, but it's something that's super, super important. 1451 01:01:17,310 --> 01:01:19,512 We talk public safety, but we also have to talk about 1452 01:01:19,512 --> 01:01:21,314 making sure that we're keeping our kids safe. 1453 01:01:21,314 --> 01:01:22,749 And I don't want to get on my 1454 01:01:22,749 --> 01:01:24,584 soapbox about drowning and drowning prevention, 1455 01:01:24,584 --> 01:01:27,120 but a lot of the work that you guys do helps, helps with that. 1456 01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:28,421 And I'm so appreciative. 1457 01:01:28,421 --> 01:01:28,922 I mean, just 1458 01:01:28,922 --> 01:01:30,423 every time I hear that number, I just 1459 01:01:30,423 --> 01:01:31,391 I watched the video over 1460 01:01:31,391 --> 01:01:32,926 and over and over again because I still can't 1461 01:01:32,926 --> 01:01:35,261 believe you guys were able to accomplish that. 1462 01:01:35,261 --> 01:01:35,795 And I did have to 1463 01:01:35,795 --> 01:01:36,162 I had to 1464 01:01:36,162 --> 01:01:40,133 if I had to cast someone for a Parks and Recreation director, 1465 01:01:40,133 --> 01:01:42,602 I don't think you could find any better than Holly Osborne 1466 01:01:42,602 --> 01:01:43,169 here. So, 1467 01:01:44,270 --> 01:01:45,005 thank you for your part. 1468 01:01:45,005 --> 01:01:47,240 I mean, it's it's reflective on 1469 01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:47,707 not only 1470 01:01:47,707 --> 01:01:49,976 how hard your team works to put on all these events, 1471 01:01:49,976 --> 01:01:51,711 but we're really kind of the tip of the spear 1472 01:01:51,711 --> 01:01:53,313 on some of these major events 1473 01:01:53,313 --> 01:01:55,915 where we're getting folks from all across the state 1474 01:01:55,915 --> 01:01:58,551 to come to our city and experience, 1475 01:01:58,551 --> 01:02:00,086 just what, what we all love about it. 1476 01:02:00,086 --> 01:02:01,821 It's a reason why so many of us call it home. 1477 01:02:01,821 --> 01:02:03,256 And so thank you for your work. 1478 01:02:03,256 --> 01:02:04,657 Thank you for your passion that you inject 1479 01:02:04,657 --> 01:02:06,659 into these programs, because it wouldn't 1480 01:02:06,659 --> 01:02:07,660 be the same without you. 1481 01:02:07,660 --> 01:02:10,296 So we appreciate you. 1482 01:02:10,296 --> 01:02:12,232 And she was my old boss, so I had to get that in there. 1483 01:02:12,232 --> 01:02:15,201 So I'm not anymore though. But he did have to say that. 1484 01:02:15,201 --> 01:02:17,137 And Vice Mayor Greenberg. 1485 01:02:17,137 --> 01:02:19,039 Oh, thank you, mayor. I only have one thing. 1486 01:02:19,039 --> 01:02:22,475 Thank you for taking advantage of AI to give us better data, 1487 01:02:23,243 --> 01:02:25,578 because just better data we have, the better decisions 1488 01:02:25,578 --> 01:02:26,813 we can make. And that's 1489 01:02:28,248 --> 01:02:29,082 all I got to say. 1490 01:02:29,082 --> 01:02:30,350 Thank you. 1491 01:02:30,350 --> 01:02:32,519 Councilman Joe. 1492 01:02:32,519 --> 01:02:33,620 Thank you mayor. 1493 01:02:33,620 --> 01:02:34,888 Thank you. Holly, this is great. 1494 01:02:34,888 --> 01:02:36,790 So I love the parties. 1495 01:02:36,790 --> 01:02:38,358 I love the events that you put on. 1496 01:02:38,358 --> 01:02:40,393 And I love that we have nearly 3 million 1497 01:02:40,393 --> 01:02:41,695 people visiting our parks. 1498 01:02:41,695 --> 01:02:44,631 I mean, this really is this is all about quality of life. 1499 01:02:44,631 --> 01:02:45,298 And I think you're doing 1500 01:02:45,298 --> 01:02:48,001 a great job of subsidizing the ones that need subsidize 1501 01:02:48,001 --> 01:02:49,669 for the little guys running around 1502 01:02:49,669 --> 01:02:50,970 and then making the adults that still want 1503 01:02:50,970 --> 01:02:53,973 to throw a ball around, you know, pay their way. 1504 01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,410 As this is a budget meeting and we're working towards 1505 01:02:57,777 --> 01:03:00,780 what we're going to do next year with our budget money. 1506 01:03:00,947 --> 01:03:03,350 What do you have planned for McMeekin? 1507 01:03:03,350 --> 01:03:05,018 Do you have budget money in there? 1508 01:03:05,018 --> 01:03:06,686 What kind of things can we look? 1509 01:03:06,686 --> 01:03:08,621 I mean, one of the reasons the number is so small 1510 01:03:08,621 --> 01:03:10,523 is it's a space that needs to be activated. 1511 01:03:10,523 --> 01:03:13,126 So what's our plan? That. That's a hard. 1512 01:03:13,126 --> 01:03:14,728 Thank you, Councilman Judd. 1513 01:03:14,728 --> 01:03:16,329 I'm stalling to give Sandy 1514 01:03:16,329 --> 01:03:18,331 some time to think of a better answer. 1515 01:03:18,331 --> 01:03:19,666 I mean, not to throw under the bus. 1516 01:03:19,666 --> 01:03:21,134 We have a lot of things planned, 1517 01:03:21,134 --> 01:03:24,304 but it depends on how financially we end up. 1518 01:03:24,304 --> 01:03:27,707 So we have we have money to start the design process. 1519 01:03:27,741 --> 01:03:29,075 As you know, we're going through our Parks 1520 01:03:29,075 --> 01:03:31,478 and Recreation master plan right now. 1521 01:03:31,478 --> 01:03:33,279 That does encompass make and dam. 1522 01:03:33,279 --> 01:03:34,214 Once we figure out 1523 01:03:34,214 --> 01:03:36,182 we have a couple of geographical locations 1524 01:03:36,182 --> 01:03:39,219 where we're looking at budget permitting, we want to start 1525 01:03:39,219 --> 01:03:43,156 at least a 30% design to get us to the point, where 1526 01:03:43,156 --> 01:03:47,727 we could do a programable park and then also know the, the geo. 1527 01:03:47,927 --> 01:03:49,963 What is the type of topography? 1528 01:03:49,963 --> 01:03:50,764 Is that the word, 1529 01:03:50,764 --> 01:03:52,065 the topography of the land, 1530 01:03:52,065 --> 01:03:53,199 while we're doing our master plan 1531 01:03:53,199 --> 01:03:54,901 to figure out the most advantageous 1532 01:03:54,901 --> 01:03:59,005 and where we can actually do programable parks within that. 1533 01:03:59,239 --> 01:04:01,741 So that would be the design phase. 1534 01:04:01,741 --> 01:04:04,044 With McMeekin dam, we have a lot of it. 1535 01:04:04,044 --> 01:04:05,945 Is our park rangers coming up. 1536 01:04:05,945 --> 01:04:07,947 We would like to eventually start 1537 01:04:07,947 --> 01:04:09,516 more of an outdoor program, 1538 01:04:09,516 --> 01:04:12,519 but right now we currently are in the enforcement 1539 01:04:12,519 --> 01:04:16,690 and education as opposed to the luxury side of things. 1540 01:04:16,856 --> 01:04:17,157 Yeah. 1541 01:04:17,157 --> 01:04:20,460 And I think the idea I mean, we, I expect it to be a long time 1542 01:04:20,460 --> 01:04:21,928 before we can actually afford to build 1543 01:04:21,928 --> 01:04:24,330 a, build a proper programable park out there. 1544 01:04:24,330 --> 01:04:26,199 They're not cheap, they're hard to do. 1545 01:04:26,199 --> 01:04:26,833 And we're going to want 1546 01:04:26,833 --> 01:04:29,436 a lot of community input before we do that. 1547 01:04:29,436 --> 01:04:31,404 But it is a nice conservation area. 1548 01:04:31,404 --> 01:04:31,705 We'd like 1549 01:04:31,705 --> 01:04:35,175 to see some great outdoor, skills type things out there, 1550 01:04:35,442 --> 01:04:36,810 hopefully an archery range 1551 01:04:36,810 --> 01:04:38,111 on the outside of town over there, 1552 01:04:38,111 --> 01:04:39,045 so we don't have to go all the way 1553 01:04:39,045 --> 01:04:40,847 to Ben Avery for that stuff. 1554 01:04:40,847 --> 01:04:42,148 But really just some outdoor 1555 01:04:42,148 --> 01:04:43,917 focused nature type things would be great. 1556 01:04:43,917 --> 01:04:45,185 And again, it's 1557 01:04:45,185 --> 01:04:49,589 the the main goal of this is, is a conservation area. 1558 01:04:49,589 --> 01:04:51,558 So just giving people a chance 1559 01:04:51,558 --> 01:04:53,893 to get outdoors right next to the white tanks 1560 01:04:53,893 --> 01:04:55,895 and maybe even join up for the white thanks there 1561 01:04:55,895 --> 01:04:57,430 through Andy's property. 1562 01:04:57,430 --> 01:04:59,065 Yes, that is our plan. 1563 01:04:59,065 --> 01:05:00,533 Thank you. Timing and money. 1564 01:05:02,202 --> 01:05:04,204 Any other council members hearing? 1565 01:05:04,204 --> 01:05:07,407 None I appreciate thank you very much. 1566 01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,643 And thanks everyone for showing up for our parks presentation. 1567 01:05:16,883 --> 01:05:17,584 So we're going to move on 1568 01:05:17,584 --> 01:05:20,687 to the call to the public, portion of this meeting. 1569 01:05:20,687 --> 01:05:23,690 I have a brief statement I want to read. 1570 01:05:25,225 --> 01:05:27,594 I to here we go. 1571 01:05:27,594 --> 01:05:29,329 So before I open the call, the public, 1572 01:05:29,329 --> 01:05:32,065 I just want to thank everyone for being here. 1573 01:05:32,065 --> 01:05:34,034 I know many of you signed up to speak, 1574 01:05:34,034 --> 01:05:35,001 and I want you to know 1575 01:05:35,001 --> 01:05:37,504 that this council is here to listen to you. 1576 01:05:37,504 --> 01:05:42,075 So, hearing from residents is what really our our job is. 1577 01:05:42,108 --> 01:05:44,377 Listen here you 1578 01:05:44,377 --> 01:05:47,380 it's what makes our community incredibly strong. It. 1579 01:05:47,981 --> 01:05:48,515 If you haven't 1580 01:05:48,515 --> 01:05:51,518 filled out a request to speak, there's one in the back. 1581 01:05:51,618 --> 01:05:52,619 I encourage you to do so. 1582 01:05:52,619 --> 01:05:54,387 And then you just give that to our city clerk. 1583 01:05:54,387 --> 01:05:56,756 That way you can put you on the list to speak. 1584 01:05:59,359 --> 01:05:59,759 We want 1585 01:05:59,759 --> 01:06:02,729 everybody to feel heard and respected 1586 01:06:02,729 --> 01:06:05,732 and ask to remain kind and courteous to everybody 1587 01:06:06,866 --> 01:06:09,602 and follow the rules of decorum in this chamber 1588 01:06:09,602 --> 01:06:11,371 and throughout the entire process. 1589 01:06:11,371 --> 01:06:12,639 I understand that many of you are here 1590 01:06:12,639 --> 01:06:13,707 this evening to talk about 1591 01:06:13,707 --> 01:06:16,242 the recent purchase of the building and surprise 1592 01:06:16,242 --> 01:06:17,977 by the Department of Homeland Security, 1593 01:06:17,977 --> 01:06:18,878 and because there are 1594 01:06:18,878 --> 01:06:21,881 limitations on the council's ability to respond. 1595 01:06:21,948 --> 01:06:24,751 During the public comment, I want to share some information 1596 01:06:24,751 --> 01:06:27,253 just to have some clarity on on our stance 1597 01:06:27,253 --> 01:06:30,256 for the city was not aware of the 1598 01:06:30,490 --> 01:06:33,059 that the efforts were under way to purchase a building 1599 01:06:33,059 --> 01:06:35,628 that was secured by the Department of Homeland Security, 1600 01:06:35,628 --> 01:06:36,629 was not notified 1601 01:06:36,629 --> 01:06:39,599 of the transaction by any of the parties involved. 1602 01:06:40,100 --> 01:06:41,601 It's important to note that federal projects 1603 01:06:41,601 --> 01:06:44,604 are not subject to local regulation, such as zoning, 1604 01:06:45,138 --> 01:06:45,772 and although the 1605 01:06:45,772 --> 01:06:49,142 city cannot regulate the Homeland Security's purchase 1606 01:06:49,576 --> 01:06:51,478 or the use of the building, the council is 1607 01:06:51,478 --> 01:06:54,714 genuinely committed to hearing your thoughts and your concerns. 1608 01:06:55,548 --> 01:06:58,618 And so we're going to hear from people on both sides of this. 1609 01:06:58,618 --> 01:07:00,787 And I ask that you respect one another. 1610 01:07:01,755 --> 01:07:04,224 I don't want to hear cheering or clapping. 1611 01:07:04,224 --> 01:07:05,358 I know we're passionate about it, 1612 01:07:05,358 --> 01:07:06,659 but I don't want one person 1613 01:07:06,659 --> 01:07:07,827 to feel intimidated 1614 01:07:07,827 --> 01:07:08,962 regardless of what side of the aisle 1615 01:07:08,962 --> 01:07:11,031 you're on, we're going to listen to you. 1616 01:07:11,031 --> 01:07:13,066 And I think we just need to lower the temperature 1617 01:07:13,066 --> 01:07:14,834 and respect each other in this chamber. 1618 01:07:14,834 --> 01:07:17,137 And I appreciate that of you. 1619 01:07:17,137 --> 01:07:20,306 And we're here to listen and and I appreciate you, 1620 01:07:21,908 --> 01:07:24,744 Madam Clerk. 1621 01:07:24,744 --> 01:07:25,078 Thank you. 1622 01:07:25,078 --> 01:07:26,946 Mayor. 1623 01:07:26,946 --> 01:07:29,582 To make this go as smoothly as possible, 1624 01:07:29,582 --> 01:07:32,585 I am going to read out five names at a time. 1625 01:07:32,619 --> 01:07:34,888 So if I call your name and you're in this room, 1626 01:07:34,888 --> 01:07:36,790 if you would make your way to the center 1627 01:07:36,790 --> 01:07:38,825 aisle in the order that I call you, 1628 01:07:38,825 --> 01:07:40,994 and the same for the other room, 1629 01:07:40,994 --> 01:07:43,797 they will send those speakers forward, 1630 01:07:43,797 --> 01:07:45,699 and we'll just have to be a little bit patient. 1631 01:07:47,067 --> 01:07:50,036 The first five are Brant Peak, 1632 01:07:50,704 --> 01:07:53,039 Sarah Helgeson, 1633 01:07:53,039 --> 01:07:56,009 Catherine Faber, Hagen, 1634 01:07:56,209 --> 01:07:58,745 Alex, Chris 1635 01:07:58,745 --> 01:08:01,748 and Stephen Quebec. 1636 01:08:02,315 --> 01:08:04,217 If you could make your way to the center 1637 01:08:04,217 --> 01:08:06,286 when you get to the podium, please 1638 01:08:06,286 --> 01:08:09,289 state your name and cross streets for the record 1639 01:08:09,622 --> 01:08:10,390 window. 1640 01:08:10,390 --> 01:08:13,393 Good evening sir. 1641 01:08:14,928 --> 01:08:16,529 Mayor and Council members, thank you 1642 01:08:16,529 --> 01:08:17,897 for the opportunity to speak. 1643 01:08:17,897 --> 01:08:19,599 My name is Brant Peak. 1644 01:08:19,599 --> 01:08:22,035 I'm co-chair of Northwest Valley Indivisible. 1645 01:08:22,035 --> 01:08:24,904 I am not a resident of surprise, 1646 01:08:24,904 --> 01:08:27,907 but our organization includes many surprise residents. 1647 01:08:27,907 --> 01:08:29,609 And over the past year, 1648 01:08:29,609 --> 01:08:30,010 we have 1649 01:08:30,010 --> 01:08:33,013 held many peaceful protests and other events here in town. 1650 01:08:33,947 --> 01:08:36,916 Tonight, I want to be very clear about who we are 1651 01:08:36,916 --> 01:08:38,952 and how we show up. 1652 01:08:38,952 --> 01:08:41,488 Northwest Valley indivisible is made up entirely 1653 01:08:41,488 --> 01:08:44,457 of unpaid volunteers, including myself. 1654 01:08:44,724 --> 01:08:46,092 No one is paid to attend our 1655 01:08:46,092 --> 01:08:49,229 events, organize our actions, or speak on our behalf. 1656 01:08:50,063 --> 01:08:52,499 We show up on our own time at our own expense, 1657 01:08:52,499 --> 01:08:54,667 because we care about the Northwest Valley 1658 01:08:54,667 --> 01:08:56,069 and the issues that affect it. 1659 01:08:57,070 --> 01:08:59,439 I share this paraphrased sentiment 1660 01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,142 with one Minnesota protester, who recently said, 1661 01:09:02,142 --> 01:09:04,444 I got to get up in the morning just like everybody else. 1662 01:09:04,444 --> 01:09:07,347 I'm just here to stand up for community. 1663 01:09:07,347 --> 01:09:10,350 Northwest Valley Indivisible is firmly committed to peaceful, 1664 01:09:10,583 --> 01:09:13,453 nonviolent, weapons free protest. 1665 01:09:13,453 --> 01:09:14,654 That commitment is rooted 1666 01:09:14,654 --> 01:09:16,356 in the National Indivisible Movement's 1667 01:09:16,356 --> 01:09:19,859 nonviolence policy, and it is non-negotiable for us. 1668 01:09:20,660 --> 01:09:22,562 We plan with de-escalation in mind. 1669 01:09:22,562 --> 01:09:25,465 We set clear expectations for participants, 1670 01:09:25,465 --> 01:09:27,567 and we do not tolerate intimidation, threats 1671 01:09:27,567 --> 01:09:30,570 or weapons from our participants at our events. 1672 01:09:31,104 --> 01:09:33,440 Tonight, I want to clarify why we oppose 1673 01:09:33,440 --> 01:09:36,443 the proposed Ice facility here in surprise. 1674 01:09:36,509 --> 01:09:38,812 We support holding people accountable for their crimes, 1675 01:09:38,812 --> 01:09:40,680 whether they are citizens or immigrants. 1676 01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,683 We do not want to excuse or allow criminal behavior. 1677 01:09:43,983 --> 01:09:46,286 Our concern is that Ice cannot be trusted 1678 01:09:46,286 --> 01:09:48,788 to exercise their authority responsibly, 1679 01:09:48,788 --> 01:09:51,791 whether on the streets or in a detention center. 1680 01:09:51,958 --> 01:09:54,527 We do not trust Ice to distinguish between criminals 1681 01:09:54,527 --> 01:09:55,829 and non criminals, 1682 01:09:55,829 --> 01:09:58,131 between a violent offense or a misdemeanor. 1683 01:09:58,131 --> 01:10:00,100 We do not trust them to reliably uphold 1684 01:10:00,100 --> 01:10:02,235 the constitutional rights of citizens, 1685 01:10:02,235 --> 01:10:05,071 much less immigrants, documented or not. 1686 01:10:05,071 --> 01:10:07,707 And we do not trust Ice to respond to peaceful protests 1687 01:10:07,707 --> 01:10:08,742 like ours 1688 01:10:08,742 --> 01:10:10,543 with the professionalism and respect 1689 01:10:10,543 --> 01:10:12,812 that we have consistently experienced 1690 01:10:12,812 --> 01:10:15,148 from the surprise police department. 1691 01:10:15,148 --> 01:10:17,217 Based on ICE's recent conduct, we believe that 1692 01:10:17,217 --> 01:10:20,520 allowing this facility in surprise risks introducing 1693 01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,590 chaos and cruelty into a community that has worked 1694 01:10:23,590 --> 01:10:26,659 hard to maintain peace and safety for its residents. 1695 01:10:27,460 --> 01:10:28,528 But please know this 1696 01:10:29,496 --> 01:10:32,365 as Northwest Valley Indivisible responds to this situation, 1697 01:10:32,365 --> 01:10:34,100 we will continue to hold 1698 01:10:34,100 --> 01:10:38,271 to our standards of peaceful, nonviolent, weapons free protest 1699 01:10:39,005 --> 01:10:41,508 interest in this facility is tremendous, 1700 01:10:41,508 --> 01:10:44,277 and outside groups are already here to take action 1701 01:10:44,277 --> 01:10:45,712 if any plan to do so. 1702 01:10:45,712 --> 01:10:48,381 If any of those planned to do so in coordination with us, 1703 01:10:48,381 --> 01:10:50,583 they will be expected to follow the same principles 1704 01:10:50,583 --> 01:10:53,820 we do peaceful protest, nonviolence, no weapons. 1705 01:10:53,820 --> 01:10:55,522 And if they are unwilling to do that, 1706 01:10:55,522 --> 01:10:57,323 we will not partner with them. 1707 01:10:57,323 --> 01:10:59,793 We value our relationship with the city of Surprise 1708 01:10:59,793 --> 01:11:01,528 and the surprise police department. 1709 01:11:01,528 --> 01:11:04,330 We will continue to coordinate the surprise with surprise 1710 01:11:04,330 --> 01:11:05,398 PD in advance. 1711 01:11:05,398 --> 01:11:07,133 We will communicate clearly, 1712 01:11:07,133 --> 01:11:08,802 and we will express our appreciation 1713 01:11:08,802 --> 01:11:09,502 for the department's 1714 01:11:09,502 --> 01:11:12,839 consistent focus on safety and professionalism 1715 01:11:13,006 --> 01:11:16,009 as residents exercise their First Amendment rights. 1716 01:11:16,443 --> 01:11:18,511 We will continue being the kind of civic partner 1717 01:11:18,511 --> 01:11:21,214 this city has come to expect from us. Thank you sir. 1718 01:11:25,585 --> 01:11:28,588 Thank you Mayor. 1719 01:11:28,788 --> 01:11:30,657 Thank you mayor. 1720 01:11:30,657 --> 01:11:33,626 Vice mayor, Council members, thank you so much 1721 01:11:34,227 --> 01:11:36,830 for allowing us to come here. 1722 01:11:36,830 --> 01:11:38,898 I appreciate this council 1723 01:11:38,898 --> 01:11:43,002 of how you guys always hear what we have to say. 1724 01:11:43,002 --> 01:11:45,939 And I appreciate my fellow surprise. 1725 01:11:45,939 --> 01:11:48,942 The ants and those from, neighboring, 1726 01:11:50,310 --> 01:11:52,479 communities as well, that have come out 1727 01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:55,482 taking their time to come out here and express 1728 01:11:56,750 --> 01:11:59,352 our passion to you as well. 1729 01:11:59,352 --> 01:12:03,757 Mayor, I'm here to support our fellow law enforcement 1730 01:12:04,524 --> 01:12:08,128 who daily put on the uniform, 1731 01:12:08,628 --> 01:12:12,565 whether it's our police, our medical, our fire, 1732 01:12:13,133 --> 01:12:16,269 our nurses, our doctors, and yes, 1733 01:12:16,603 --> 01:12:20,273 even Customs and Immigration force, I support them. 1734 01:12:20,807 --> 01:12:26,479 They do a hard job and I am not going to impede on their job. 1735 01:12:27,781 --> 01:12:30,784 A well funded, a 1736 01:12:30,784 --> 01:12:35,422 well trained and a well supported law enforcement 1737 01:12:35,789 --> 01:12:38,758 is an essential part of our republic. 1738 01:12:39,025 --> 01:12:42,662 Whether it's our nation, our state, 1739 01:12:43,630 --> 01:12:46,366 or even right here in surprise. 1740 01:12:46,366 --> 01:12:49,369 And I've gotten to know the chiefs of both. 1741 01:12:49,736 --> 01:12:52,739 And they are professional and they are great. 1742 01:12:53,473 --> 01:12:56,476 And I appreciate the hard work that these men and women 1743 01:12:56,943 --> 01:12:59,946 who wake up every day, take up these shifts 1744 01:13:00,380 --> 01:13:03,083 and say, I will protect you. 1745 01:13:03,083 --> 01:13:07,053 And my prayer for them is that they go safely and return 1746 01:13:07,053 --> 01:13:11,324 safely back to their families, that I can support them as well. 1747 01:13:12,392 --> 01:13:15,395 I want to thank everyone that has come out here. 1748 01:13:15,462 --> 01:13:18,465 From what we've seen on YouTube and different, 1749 01:13:19,065 --> 01:13:22,068 news media, this isn't anything like that. 1750 01:13:22,969 --> 01:13:25,972 They have been very respectful from both sides. 1751 01:13:26,773 --> 01:13:30,410 They have been here and saying, I will support 1752 01:13:30,410 --> 01:13:35,148 whether this cause or that cause in a very respectful manner, 1753 01:13:36,016 --> 01:13:38,685 and I hope that this is going to be 1754 01:13:38,685 --> 01:13:41,454 the way it should be for all communities. 1755 01:13:42,622 --> 01:13:43,056 Mayor, 1756 01:13:43,056 --> 01:13:46,059 vice mayor, council members. 1757 01:13:46,159 --> 01:13:48,528 This is a great republic, and I hope 1758 01:13:48,528 --> 01:13:51,965 that we can continue another 250 years. 1759 01:13:52,432 --> 01:13:53,800 Thank you very much. 1760 01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:56,703 Thank you sir. 1761 01:13:56,703 --> 01:13:59,706 Before you start, I'm going to read the next five. 1762 01:14:00,407 --> 01:14:03,076 The next five are Lisa Everett, 1763 01:14:03,076 --> 01:14:06,046 Michael Chester, Kelly. 1764 01:14:06,046 --> 01:14:08,848 Vote. 1765 01:14:08,848 --> 01:14:10,617 Bhavani I 1766 01:14:10,617 --> 01:14:13,253 I Connie, I hope I said that right. 1767 01:14:13,253 --> 01:14:15,388 Ricky. Hi, Tara. 1768 01:14:15,388 --> 01:14:16,656 Okay, you can begin. 1769 01:14:16,656 --> 01:14:18,391 Thank you. 1770 01:14:18,391 --> 01:14:20,326 Good evening, Mr. Mayor. 1771 01:14:20,326 --> 01:14:22,829 Men and women of the council 1772 01:14:22,829 --> 01:14:25,799 and any distinguished guests who have left out. 1773 01:14:26,433 --> 01:14:29,836 Thank you for the time to talk about this controversial topic. 1774 01:14:29,836 --> 01:14:32,238 The ice warehouse. 1775 01:14:32,238 --> 01:14:35,241 I support the police and ice. 1776 01:14:35,375 --> 01:14:39,279 These men and women have a job to do to protect us. 1777 01:14:39,979 --> 01:14:42,282 They, like all of us, 1778 01:14:42,282 --> 01:14:44,651 want to go home and see their families after work 1779 01:14:46,119 --> 01:14:47,520 in the last four months. 1780 01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:50,256 Here is an example of a few states 1781 01:14:50,256 --> 01:14:53,159 and the number of illegal aliens who were deported. 1782 01:14:53,159 --> 01:14:55,628 Texas 17,000. 1783 01:14:55,628 --> 01:14:57,831 Louisiana 7000. 1784 01:14:57,831 --> 01:15:00,033 California 6000. 1785 01:15:00,033 --> 01:15:03,536 Florida 4000, Georgia 4000. 1786 01:15:03,536 --> 01:15:05,305 West Virginia 650. 1787 01:15:05,305 --> 01:15:07,474 And Maine 200. 1788 01:15:07,474 --> 01:15:10,944 I bring these numbers up because while they are 1789 01:15:10,944 --> 01:15:15,215 all substantial, all are without incident 1790 01:15:16,049 --> 01:15:19,953 because people living there and the local police 1791 01:15:20,653 --> 01:15:23,656 worked with ice and ice, went in, 1792 01:15:24,090 --> 01:15:27,093 arrested them and left. 1793 01:15:27,927 --> 01:15:29,896 My hope is 1794 01:15:29,896 --> 01:15:33,933 we are all neighbors here in surprise, and 1795 01:15:33,933 --> 01:15:37,937 I hope we would work with Ice and with our local police. 1796 01:15:38,304 --> 01:15:41,141 So they can do their job. 1797 01:15:41,141 --> 01:15:44,277 To my knowledge, we do not know yet 1798 01:15:44,711 --> 01:15:47,714 if this facility is to store their equipment 1799 01:15:48,248 --> 01:15:51,151 or to temporarily house 1800 01:15:51,151 --> 01:15:53,787 or to temporarily house illegals 1801 01:15:53,787 --> 01:15:56,289 before deportation. 1802 01:15:56,289 --> 01:15:57,123 But either way, 1803 01:15:58,191 --> 01:16:00,694 why are some people against it? 1804 01:16:00,694 --> 01:16:02,529 I can't answer that question. 1805 01:16:02,529 --> 01:16:04,631 We can. 1806 01:16:04,631 --> 01:16:05,999 One second, sir. 1807 01:16:05,999 --> 01:16:07,267 I asked at the beginning of this. 1808 01:16:07,267 --> 01:16:08,268 We're going to respect each other. 1809 01:16:08,268 --> 01:16:11,004 I know that we have we have passion about it. 1810 01:16:11,004 --> 01:16:13,807 I know we got some claps, but we need to really respect it. 1811 01:16:13,807 --> 01:16:14,908 Give this man his time. 1812 01:16:14,908 --> 01:16:16,943 Like we're going to get you your time 1813 01:16:16,943 --> 01:16:18,745 and we're going to respect each other 1814 01:16:18,745 --> 01:16:19,779 and the way that we approach this. 1815 01:16:19,779 --> 01:16:21,648 So I appreciate your candor 1816 01:16:21,648 --> 01:16:22,415 and letting everybody 1817 01:16:22,415 --> 01:16:25,585 speak their piece and and letting everybody say 1818 01:16:25,585 --> 01:16:26,152 what they need to say. 1819 01:16:26,152 --> 01:16:28,888 So so I'm going to give you we'll go ahead and continue. 1820 01:16:28,888 --> 01:16:29,489 We pass the time. 1821 01:16:29,489 --> 01:16:29,956 Thank you, Mr. 1822 01:16:29,956 --> 01:16:32,959 Mayor. But. 1823 01:16:36,029 --> 01:16:38,231 It's actually a great location. 1824 01:16:38,231 --> 01:16:40,467 It's not interrupting our daily lives. 1825 01:16:40,467 --> 01:16:42,102 It's not in the middle of our city. 1826 01:16:43,336 --> 01:16:46,339 I fear that the reason for this anti-choice sentiment 1827 01:16:46,773 --> 01:16:49,776 is because many protesters have the attitude. 1828 01:16:50,110 --> 01:16:53,413 These people are our neighbors, but are they? 1829 01:16:54,447 --> 01:16:56,516 The minute they come across the border 1830 01:16:56,516 --> 01:16:59,519 and step foot in our country, they're illegal. 1831 01:17:00,553 --> 01:17:02,789 In fact, the current administration 1832 01:17:02,789 --> 01:17:05,792 has offered them to leave now voluntarily, 1833 01:17:06,593 --> 01:17:09,362 and they have a chance to return. 1834 01:17:09,362 --> 01:17:11,364 In closing, 1835 01:17:11,364 --> 01:17:13,733 I am a God fearing man. 1836 01:17:13,733 --> 01:17:15,902 I will pray for the mayor 1837 01:17:15,902 --> 01:17:18,204 and for the council members 1838 01:17:18,204 --> 01:17:20,907 to do the right thing for our community. 1839 01:17:20,907 --> 01:17:24,210 I will also pray for Ice to get their job done 1840 01:17:24,210 --> 01:17:25,945 and go home safely, 1841 01:17:25,945 --> 01:17:28,948 so we can all go back to our lives here in Arizona. 1842 01:17:29,482 --> 01:17:32,485 God bless you all again. 1843 01:17:38,992 --> 01:17:40,694 Good evening mayor. 1844 01:17:40,694 --> 01:17:41,728 Council, 1845 01:17:41,728 --> 01:17:44,731 thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak tonight. 1846 01:17:44,964 --> 01:17:46,132 I appreciate the time 1847 01:17:46,132 --> 01:17:49,536 you've set aside for residents to voice their concerns 1848 01:17:50,303 --> 01:17:53,907 about the proposed 1500 bed Ice detention 1849 01:17:53,907 --> 01:17:57,544 facility, planned near nine schools. 1850 01:17:58,178 --> 01:18:01,181 I understand and want to acknowledge 1851 01:18:01,181 --> 01:18:04,050 this project is not under your jurisdiction, 1852 01:18:05,685 --> 01:18:08,688 but this is still something. 1853 01:18:09,689 --> 01:18:12,559 Is this is an appropriate place for us? 1854 01:18:12,559 --> 01:18:13,360 For it? 1855 01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:17,364 Is it a place that we want to put a detention center? 1856 01:18:18,098 --> 01:18:21,101 This is not a Democrat or Republican issue. 1857 01:18:21,568 --> 01:18:24,804 It is an issue about human dignity. 1858 01:18:25,839 --> 01:18:28,408 I stand for the dignity of life 1859 01:18:28,408 --> 01:18:33,013 in all of its forms the unborn victims of crime, 1860 01:18:33,413 --> 01:18:36,416 those on death row and immigrants. 1861 01:18:36,649 --> 01:18:40,286 Dignity does not depend on someone's legal status, 1862 01:18:40,887 --> 01:18:43,857 political affiliation or where they were born. 1863 01:18:44,324 --> 01:18:47,727 It is either value that we hold consistently 1864 01:18:48,628 --> 01:18:51,264 or it is not a value at all. 1865 01:18:51,264 --> 01:18:53,767 Immigration and Ice enforcement 1866 01:18:53,767 --> 01:18:56,770 have become deeply polarizing topics. 1867 01:18:57,437 --> 01:18:59,806 The media often pushes people towards 1868 01:18:59,806 --> 01:19:04,344 the most extreme positions as if there are only two sides. 1869 01:19:04,611 --> 01:19:08,415 But most Americans do not reside in the extremes. 1870 01:19:08,948 --> 01:19:11,484 Most people are in the middle. 1871 01:19:11,484 --> 01:19:17,157 I believe in borders and laws and they believe, 1872 01:19:17,157 --> 01:19:20,460 and I believe in basic humanity and decency. 1873 01:19:21,161 --> 01:19:24,497 I respect the First Amendment right of all of those 1874 01:19:24,497 --> 01:19:28,435 who protest and I also recognize that Ice agents are doing 1875 01:19:28,435 --> 01:19:32,639 the job that they signed up to do under federal law. 1876 01:19:33,006 --> 01:19:36,309 Two things can be true at the same time. 1877 01:19:39,412 --> 01:19:41,514 I have legitimate concerns 1878 01:19:41,514 --> 01:19:44,818 about this building being in surprise. 1879 01:19:46,953 --> 01:19:49,122 It's going to have a negative effect 1880 01:19:49,122 --> 01:19:52,258 on our community, as it already has this evening. 1881 01:19:52,258 --> 01:19:54,194 I have heard there are 1882 01:19:54,194 --> 01:19:57,197 hundreds and hundreds of people outside of this room. 1883 01:19:58,198 --> 01:20:00,500 It concerns me that undue 1884 01:20:00,500 --> 01:20:03,503 attention is being brought to our city. 1885 01:20:04,037 --> 01:20:08,008 My prayer is simple that people take their concerns to those 1886 01:20:08,008 --> 01:20:11,778 who actually have the power to make a change, right? 1887 01:20:11,778 --> 01:20:16,316 Your members of Congress, right where US Congress, Senator, 1888 01:20:16,883 --> 01:20:20,253 let them know that you are not okay with this. 1889 01:20:21,287 --> 01:20:25,859 But more importantly, we need to pass the Dignity Act. 1890 01:20:26,426 --> 01:20:29,429 The Dignity Act is in committee right now, 1891 01:20:30,196 --> 01:20:34,067 and if that were to be passed, this would be a moot point. 1892 01:20:34,768 --> 01:20:38,004 We want our country to return to being that shining 1893 01:20:38,004 --> 01:20:39,305 city on the hill. 1894 01:20:39,305 --> 01:20:42,475 One that enforces laws, protects communities, 1895 01:20:42,475 --> 01:20:45,845 and never forgets the dignity of every human life. 1896 01:20:46,079 --> 01:20:47,514 Thank you ma'am, thank you. 1897 01:20:51,051 --> 01:20:52,686 The next five speakers 1898 01:20:52,686 --> 01:20:56,222 Samantha Hooley, Shannon Rayburn, 1899 01:20:57,657 --> 01:21:00,660 Sonia Ramirez. 1900 01:21:02,429 --> 01:21:04,731 Lynn Peters, 1901 01:21:04,731 --> 01:21:07,734 Christopher Grams. 1902 01:21:10,537 --> 01:21:12,772 Do we know if they're coming from the overflow room? 1903 01:21:12,772 --> 01:21:15,542 I'm checking. 1904 01:21:15,542 --> 01:21:16,743 I'll read the next five. 1905 01:21:16,743 --> 01:21:18,511 And if they come in, we'll know. 1906 01:21:18,511 --> 01:21:19,879 There. 1907 01:21:19,879 --> 01:21:22,882 Colleen Pullman, 1908 01:21:22,982 --> 01:21:25,985 Diane Eden Giordano, 1909 01:21:26,986 --> 01:21:29,989 Alexandria in. 1910 01:21:30,757 --> 01:21:33,760 Stephanie Boehm. 1911 01:21:36,262 --> 01:21:38,465 Anybody? 1912 01:21:38,465 --> 01:21:40,967 Okay, we might have two coming. 1913 01:21:40,967 --> 01:21:42,769 Okay. 1914 01:21:42,769 --> 01:21:44,838 And if you have somebody sitting next to you that stepped out 1915 01:21:44,838 --> 01:21:46,272 for whatever reason and they come back, 1916 01:21:46,272 --> 01:21:48,408 we can put them in line as well. 1917 01:21:48,408 --> 01:21:51,411 If they call their name. 1918 01:21:51,978 --> 01:21:52,712 Can we keep reading? 1919 01:21:52,712 --> 01:21:55,548 So I'm going to continue. 1920 01:21:55,548 --> 01:21:56,883 Carrie. 1921 01:21:56,883 --> 01:21:59,886 I'm sorry, is there someone, 1922 01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:02,188 please state your name when you get to the podium. 1923 01:22:02,188 --> 01:22:03,757 Okay? 1924 01:22:03,757 --> 01:22:06,393 Okay. Hey. 1925 01:22:06,393 --> 01:22:08,762 Christopher Grams. 1926 01:22:08,762 --> 01:22:10,163 Good evening sir. 1927 01:22:10,163 --> 01:22:12,899 There. Councilwoman. Mayor. 1928 01:22:12,899 --> 01:22:13,400 Good. Here. 1929 01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:14,434 Tonight 1930 01:22:14,434 --> 01:22:15,869 I come to you to speak 1931 01:22:15,869 --> 01:22:18,605 about the current and concerning situation regarding the $70 1932 01:22:18,605 --> 01:22:21,675 million purchase of a facility down by DHS and Ice 1933 01:22:22,709 --> 01:22:24,010 as American citizens, 1934 01:22:24,010 --> 01:22:27,013 whether you were born here or come here, does that matter? 1935 01:22:27,180 --> 01:22:29,749 As citizens of the USA, we have to demand 1936 01:22:29,749 --> 01:22:32,752 expect complete transparency from our elected officials. 1937 01:22:33,019 --> 01:22:36,456 We deserve to know what plans are for this facility, 1938 01:22:36,790 --> 01:22:39,959 how it will affect not just the price, but all of Arizona. 1939 01:22:40,994 --> 01:22:44,364 I urge you to work in the best interest of everyone 1940 01:22:45,098 --> 01:22:48,268 and not just here, but also the rest of you in those states. 1941 01:22:48,568 --> 01:22:50,937 Our neighbors, queens and friends who come here 1942 01:22:50,937 --> 01:22:55,375 and hope to come and deserve a better life in the United States 1943 01:22:55,742 --> 01:22:58,778 that's welcoming to all and for everyone. 1944 01:22:59,279 --> 01:23:02,382 I would like to end with this quote from the Constitution. 1945 01:23:02,916 --> 01:23:05,985 We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men 1946 01:23:06,119 --> 01:23:07,120 are created equal. 1947 01:23:14,394 --> 01:23:16,363 Thank you sir. 1948 01:23:16,363 --> 01:23:17,630 Next, next. 1949 01:23:17,630 --> 01:23:22,202 I have names Erin Jones, Alexandra Sullivan, 1950 01:23:23,703 --> 01:23:26,706 Lawrence, Julian, 1951 01:23:26,906 --> 01:23:29,409 Christina Dunham, 1952 01:23:29,409 --> 01:23:32,212 Alexa Poulter. 1953 01:23:32,212 --> 01:23:34,647 Please state your name when you get to the podium. 1954 01:23:34,647 --> 01:23:37,617 Good evening. 1955 01:23:38,651 --> 01:23:39,786 Good evening. 1956 01:23:39,786 --> 01:23:42,689 My name is Alexandria mullin, and I'm here to speak about 1957 01:23:42,689 --> 01:23:45,658 the new Ice detention center on Desert in Sweetwater, 1958 01:23:45,792 --> 01:23:47,260 purchased from the Rockefeller Group 1959 01:23:47,260 --> 01:23:50,430 for $70 million in cash on January 23rd. 1960 01:23:51,064 --> 01:23:52,699 The new center is a warehouse facility 1961 01:23:52,699 --> 01:23:55,702 being turned into a center with 1500 beds. 1962 01:23:55,869 --> 01:23:59,906 Just a second drive from Dysart High School, my alma mater, 1963 01:24:00,707 --> 01:24:03,376 and a minutes drive from right here. 1964 01:24:03,376 --> 01:24:05,278 The City of Surprise said they were unaware 1965 01:24:05,278 --> 01:24:07,781 of a new facility being built in our city. 1966 01:24:07,781 --> 01:24:10,417 And meanwhile, DHS says they expect it to be up 1967 01:24:10,417 --> 01:24:14,654 and running by April 2nd months to convert a warehouse 1968 01:24:15,021 --> 01:24:17,924 with no infrastructure to a death camp 1969 01:24:17,924 --> 01:24:21,828 a camp I believe will have at least double the 1500 beds 1970 01:24:21,828 --> 01:24:23,063 we were informed of 1971 01:24:23,063 --> 01:24:26,066 based on the pictures of facilities across the nation. 1972 01:24:26,132 --> 01:24:28,101 How will they manage to convert a building meant 1973 01:24:28,101 --> 01:24:31,104 for laborers to a building housing over a thousand? 1974 01:24:31,571 --> 01:24:33,907 That is a major difference in sewage lighting 1975 01:24:33,907 --> 01:24:35,442 and especially air conditioning 1976 01:24:35,442 --> 01:24:37,510 in these upcoming summer months. 1977 01:24:37,510 --> 01:24:40,113 Not only does this new facility pose a moral dilemma 1978 01:24:40,113 --> 01:24:42,615 for some of the citizens here who have watched our brothers, 1979 01:24:42,615 --> 01:24:45,585 sisters, friends and neighbors be stolen away, 1980 01:24:45,585 --> 01:24:48,588 but it causes a multitude of issues for those who live close, 1981 01:24:49,022 --> 01:24:49,956 one resident said. 1982 01:24:49,956 --> 01:24:51,858 When interviewed by 12 news. 1983 01:24:51,858 --> 01:24:54,127 They dread the crowds of protesters. 1984 01:24:54,127 --> 01:24:57,197 I imagine they would also dread the sounds of trucks in and out 1985 01:24:57,297 --> 01:24:59,032 day and night, and the sounds of detainees 1986 01:24:59,032 --> 01:25:01,234 screaming for help like we've seen in 1987 01:25:01,234 --> 01:25:05,038 so many detention centers, including in Eloy, Arizona. 1988 01:25:05,872 --> 01:25:07,574 I'm terrified that the detention center 1989 01:25:07,574 --> 01:25:08,441 will begin to target 1990 01:25:08,441 --> 01:25:11,444 the 60% Hispanic population at Dysart High School. 1991 01:25:11,611 --> 01:25:12,879 Once again, my alma mater, 1992 01:25:13,947 --> 01:25:15,849 and the children are terrified as well. 1993 01:25:15,849 --> 01:25:16,483 Last week, 1994 01:25:16,483 --> 01:25:17,817 over 40 schools in the valley 1995 01:25:17,817 --> 01:25:19,285 stood up to show their solidarity 1996 01:25:19,285 --> 01:25:21,321 for those abused and kidnaped by Ice, 1997 01:25:21,321 --> 01:25:23,456 not only here but across the nation. 1998 01:25:23,456 --> 01:25:26,893 These children are smart, fiery and our duty to protect. 1999 01:25:27,827 --> 01:25:31,231 We can protect them from increased profiling, 2000 01:25:31,231 --> 01:25:32,966 increased police presence 2001 01:25:32,966 --> 01:25:36,269 and heartache by stopping this when we have the chance. 2002 01:25:36,870 --> 01:25:39,272 Does the council not wish to have known of this camp 2003 01:25:39,272 --> 01:25:42,208 before it was purchased? Does the council not wish 2004 01:25:42,208 --> 01:25:44,644 to know of the plans for their land? 2005 01:25:44,644 --> 01:25:48,181 Please show the community your strength and solidarity 2006 01:25:48,181 --> 01:25:49,749 and stop this. 2007 01:25:49,749 --> 01:25:52,752 Thank you. 2008 01:25:57,857 --> 01:26:00,026 Thank you again. 2009 01:26:00,026 --> 01:26:01,861 I need to ask you to not 2010 01:26:01,861 --> 01:26:04,564 clap or cheer or boo or whatever it may be. 2011 01:26:04,564 --> 01:26:06,066 I know that you want to, 2012 01:26:06,066 --> 01:26:08,368 but I don't want anybody to feel intimidated, regardless 2013 01:26:08,368 --> 01:26:09,869 of the side of the issue that you're on. 2014 01:26:09,869 --> 01:26:12,205 Everybody needs a chance to be heard 2015 01:26:12,205 --> 01:26:13,506 without fear of intimidation. 2016 01:26:14,574 --> 01:26:15,108 Ma'am. 2017 01:26:15,108 --> 01:26:16,576 Good evening. 2018 01:26:16,576 --> 01:26:18,144 Good evening, mayor and council members. 2019 01:26:18,144 --> 01:26:20,213 My name is Alexa Colter, and I've been a resident 2020 01:26:20,213 --> 01:26:22,349 of surprise for the past 26 years. 2021 01:26:22,349 --> 01:26:24,651 I currently live near Grand Avenue and Rheims Road. 2022 01:26:24,651 --> 01:26:26,553 I'm here tonight to speak about my grave concern 2023 01:26:26,553 --> 01:26:27,287 for our community, 2024 01:26:27,287 --> 01:26:29,656 as Immigration and Customs Enforcement recently purchased 2025 01:26:29,656 --> 01:26:31,558 their massive warehouse space last week 2026 01:26:31,558 --> 01:26:33,993 near the intersection of Dysart and Cactus Roads. 2027 01:26:33,993 --> 01:26:35,261 According to its recent statement, 2028 01:26:35,261 --> 01:26:36,863 the City of Surprise was not aware 2029 01:26:36,863 --> 01:26:39,265 that there were efforts underway to purchase this building 2030 01:26:39,265 --> 01:26:40,600 and given the current context 2031 01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:42,369 of other cities such as Portland, LA, 2032 01:26:42,369 --> 01:26:45,572 Chicago or Minneapolis, it is wildly irresponsible 2033 01:26:45,572 --> 01:26:46,606 that the city failed to work 2034 01:26:46,606 --> 01:26:48,541 either on its own or in coordination 2035 01:26:48,541 --> 01:26:50,643 with other nearby governmental agencies, 2036 01:26:50,643 --> 01:26:52,812 to strategically plan for our community's needs. 2037 01:26:52,812 --> 01:26:55,815 Given the current agenda of this presidential administration, 2038 01:26:56,182 --> 01:26:58,151 Ice is above the rule of law. 2039 01:26:58,151 --> 01:26:59,853 Vice President Vance has publicly stated 2040 01:26:59,853 --> 01:27:01,855 that Ice agents have federal immunity, 2041 01:27:01,855 --> 01:27:03,857 meaning their actions go without consequence. 2042 01:27:03,857 --> 01:27:05,291 There is documentation of Ice 2043 01:27:05,291 --> 01:27:06,993 aggressively and violently approaching 2044 01:27:06,993 --> 01:27:09,262 people in every area of their communities 2045 01:27:09,262 --> 01:27:11,398 cars, homes, schools and businesses. 2046 01:27:11,398 --> 01:27:13,500 There is also documented evidence of retaliatory 2047 01:27:13,500 --> 01:27:16,503 violence against Americans who are peacefully protesting 2048 01:27:16,736 --> 01:27:18,038 and organizing in their communities 2049 01:27:18,038 --> 01:27:19,873 to protect vulnerable populations, 2050 01:27:19,873 --> 01:27:22,275 and this is not political conjecture, 2051 01:27:22,275 --> 01:27:24,978 inflammatory platforming, or alarmist rhetoric. 2052 01:27:24,978 --> 01:27:27,113 There is qualitative data from the federal government 2053 01:27:27,113 --> 01:27:28,748 that affirm these realities. 2054 01:27:28,748 --> 01:27:29,382 Federal judge 2055 01:27:29,382 --> 01:27:31,584 Judge Patrick Schultz wrote in a January ruling 2056 01:27:31,584 --> 01:27:32,686 that Ice had violated 2057 01:27:32,686 --> 01:27:35,822 conservatively 96 court orders in January alone 2058 01:27:36,056 --> 01:27:38,124 regarding the release of detainees, 2059 01:27:38,124 --> 01:27:40,126 federal Judge Fred Bieri wrote in a January order 2060 01:27:40,126 --> 01:27:43,229 that in his specific case, observing human behavior confirm 2061 01:27:43,229 --> 01:27:46,633 that for some of us, perfidious lust for unbridled power 2062 01:27:46,633 --> 01:27:49,969 and the imposition of cruelty in this quest knew no bounds 2063 01:27:50,136 --> 01:27:53,306 and are bereft of human decency and the rule of law be damned. 2064 01:27:54,140 --> 01:27:54,574 And yet, 2065 01:27:54,574 --> 01:27:56,343 despite this evidence of authoritarian power, 2066 01:27:56,343 --> 01:27:58,712 it is possible for even the most local forms of government 2067 01:27:58,712 --> 01:28:00,547 to take a stand in the name of the people. 2068 01:28:00,547 --> 01:28:03,350 In January, the Kansas City City Council passed an ordinance 2069 01:28:03,350 --> 01:28:05,985 banning non municipal detention centers for five years 2070 01:28:05,985 --> 01:28:08,788 to protect their city from this exact situation, 2071 01:28:08,788 --> 01:28:10,557 our city found its best course of action 2072 01:28:10,557 --> 01:28:12,158 was to have no course at all 2073 01:28:12,158 --> 01:28:14,961 to simply folded hands and say, how could we have known? 2074 01:28:14,961 --> 01:28:17,964 But it was your job to know and it was your job to plan. 2075 01:28:18,531 --> 01:28:20,700 Our community will forever be altered by this course. 2076 01:28:20,700 --> 01:28:22,469 I currently have no call to action or 2077 01:28:22,469 --> 01:28:24,003 recommendation of the council. 2078 01:28:24,003 --> 01:28:24,537 It did feel 2079 01:28:24,537 --> 01:28:27,540 vitally important though, and in America, and a surprise 2080 01:28:27,540 --> 01:28:28,942 that are very clearly for some 2081 01:28:28,942 --> 01:28:30,577 and not all, that I use my privilege 2082 01:28:30,577 --> 01:28:32,912 to hold this Council accountable for this failure. 2083 01:28:32,912 --> 01:28:34,347 Each of you ran for public office 2084 01:28:34,347 --> 01:28:36,950 to serve every human being in your jurisdiction. 2085 01:28:36,950 --> 01:28:39,953 As public servants, you do not get to selectively choose 2086 01:28:39,986 --> 01:28:40,587 who to serve. 2087 01:28:40,587 --> 01:28:43,056 Depending on your personal politics or platforms, 2088 01:28:43,056 --> 01:28:44,958 you have a moral and ethical obligation 2089 01:28:44,958 --> 01:28:47,093 to defend every life in our city. 2090 01:28:47,093 --> 01:28:49,229 And the reality is that people under your care 2091 01:28:49,229 --> 01:28:51,998 are now incredibly scared and incredibly unsafe. 2092 01:28:51,998 --> 01:28:52,499 For people 2093 01:28:52,499 --> 01:28:53,266 who are most vulnerable 2094 01:28:53,266 --> 01:28:54,701 to the actions of Ice, 2095 01:28:54,701 --> 01:28:56,069 I want to be sure they know there are people 2096 01:28:56,069 --> 01:28:56,770 in their community 2097 01:28:56,770 --> 01:28:58,972 who will use their privileges to advocate for their lives 2098 01:28:58,972 --> 01:29:01,975 and the dignity and compassion they deserve as human beings, 2099 01:29:02,008 --> 01:29:03,977 as a group of people with a great amount of power 2100 01:29:03,977 --> 01:29:06,012 and privilege as leaders of this city, 2101 01:29:06,012 --> 01:29:08,248 I implore you to catch up and do the same. 2102 01:29:08,248 --> 01:29:09,549 The lives of people in our city 2103 01:29:09,549 --> 01:29:12,285 will literally now depend upon it. Thank you. 2104 01:29:12,285 --> 01:29:12,686 Thank you. 2105 01:29:20,393 --> 01:29:21,361 So do 2106 01:29:21,361 --> 01:29:24,364 you state your name when you get to the podium? 2107 01:29:25,165 --> 01:29:25,565 Good evening. 2108 01:29:25,565 --> 01:29:28,935 My name is Samantha Cooley and I do not live in surprise, 2109 01:29:28,935 --> 01:29:33,506 but I am a resident of Phoenix and I am a rapid responder. 2110 01:29:33,807 --> 01:29:37,610 When the community reports that they've seen Ice activity, 2111 01:29:37,610 --> 01:29:42,415 I go out and I try and videotape and record and report 2112 01:29:42,415 --> 01:29:44,851 what's happening. It's upsetting. 2113 01:29:44,851 --> 01:29:45,885 It's awful. 2114 01:29:45,885 --> 01:29:47,787 They treat people horribly. 2115 01:29:47,787 --> 01:29:50,757 One of my own family members was detained by Ice. 2116 01:29:50,757 --> 01:29:52,826 He was here on a visa 2117 01:29:52,826 --> 01:29:56,830 and also had a permit to travel anywhere in the United States. 2118 01:29:57,197 --> 01:30:00,200 I took him and detained him for three days. 2119 01:30:00,266 --> 01:30:02,202 He was taken to the field office. 2120 01:30:02,202 --> 01:30:04,738 It was supposed to be a 12 hour hold, 2121 01:30:04,738 --> 01:30:06,373 and instead of using the field 2122 01:30:06,373 --> 01:30:09,843 office as that 12 hour hold, they kept him for three days. 2123 01:30:10,210 --> 01:30:11,978 They knew he had a visa. 2124 01:30:11,978 --> 01:30:16,383 They fed him occasionally a bean burrito, 2125 01:30:17,017 --> 01:30:19,719 maybe twice, sometimes three times a day. 2126 01:30:19,719 --> 01:30:21,688 They are deplorable conditions 2127 01:30:21,688 --> 01:30:23,556 that no one should have to live in. 2128 01:30:23,556 --> 01:30:27,527 They're keeping people in these temporary holding facilities 2129 01:30:27,527 --> 01:30:30,096 for up to 43 days with no showers, 2130 01:30:30,096 --> 01:30:33,400 no brushing their teeth, no beds, and the fact 2131 01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:36,803 that they want to build a 1500 bed 2132 01:30:37,370 --> 01:30:40,373 property here, it's disgusting. 2133 01:30:40,674 --> 01:30:43,109 I am helping a family right now. Who? 2134 01:30:43,109 --> 01:30:45,345 The father is taken on Christmas Day. 2135 01:30:45,345 --> 01:30:47,347 I met the daughter at the field office 2136 01:30:47,347 --> 01:30:49,349 when she was looking for her father. 2137 01:30:49,349 --> 01:30:51,084 She's 16 years old. 2138 01:30:51,084 --> 01:30:52,686 He's HIV positive, 2139 01:30:52,686 --> 01:30:55,689 and he takes medication that he has to take every day. 2140 01:30:55,822 --> 01:31:00,060 ISIS would held his medication for seven day periods, 2141 01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:03,830 and when we finally are able to get him his medication, 2142 01:31:03,830 --> 01:31:04,531 they'll give it to him 2143 01:31:04,531 --> 01:31:07,534 for 30 days and then they withhold it again. 2144 01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:11,071 This man has no signs of HIV yet. 2145 01:31:11,104 --> 01:31:15,108 When they don't let him take his medication, he gets signs of 2146 01:31:15,742 --> 01:31:18,545 he can get the symptoms. I also am 2147 01:31:18,545 --> 01:31:21,548 working with the family of Yori who has leukemia. 2148 01:31:21,881 --> 01:31:26,286 Ice has given her Advil instead of giving her 2149 01:31:26,286 --> 01:31:28,455 the chemotherapy treatment she needs. 2150 01:31:29,856 --> 01:31:30,256 I have a 2151 01:31:30,256 --> 01:31:33,660 list here of 50 people that have died in Ice custody, 2152 01:31:34,027 --> 01:31:37,030 most of which is because of the lack of care. 2153 01:31:37,297 --> 01:31:38,164 And I would hope 2154 01:31:38,164 --> 01:31:40,133 the city is surprised, does not want to have 2155 01:31:40,133 --> 01:31:42,102 this kind of blood on their hands, 2156 01:31:42,102 --> 01:31:45,538 and would actually say no to this and figure out a way 2157 01:31:46,206 --> 01:31:49,209 to stop this facility from being built. 2158 01:31:50,477 --> 01:31:51,511 Thank you. 2159 01:31:51,511 --> 01:31:54,514 Thank you. 2160 01:31:57,717 --> 01:31:59,586 Madam clerk, can you call a few more names, please? 2161 01:31:59,586 --> 01:32:03,723 Yes, I'm going to call five more Kendall Strobel, 2162 01:32:04,391 --> 01:32:07,494 Vince, Manjula, Jennifer Woods, 2163 01:32:08,194 --> 01:32:10,830 Donna Bruns e John. 2164 01:32:10,830 --> 01:32:12,966 Manila. 2165 01:32:12,966 --> 01:32:14,200 Weiser. State your name, please. 2166 01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:15,902 I'm John Manila. 2167 01:32:15,902 --> 01:32:18,772 I live 15 minutes south of here, right down Dicer. 2168 01:32:18,772 --> 01:32:20,206 Mayor and city council, thank you for 2169 01:32:20,206 --> 01:32:21,374 having public comment tonight. 2170 01:32:21,374 --> 01:32:23,243 I appreciate that. 2171 01:32:23,243 --> 01:32:27,447 DHS says that Ice is going after the worst of the worst. 2172 01:32:27,447 --> 01:32:29,249 This is their words, right? 2173 01:32:29,249 --> 01:32:30,183 The worst of the worst. 2174 01:32:30,183 --> 01:32:33,353 Pedophiles, murderers, gang bangers, psychopaths. 2175 01:32:33,586 --> 01:32:35,555 The absolute worst of the worst. 2176 01:32:35,555 --> 01:32:38,224 So I ask you, why are you allowing them to houses? 2177 01:32:38,224 --> 01:32:40,827 Worst of the worst. Right next to Dysart High School. 2178 01:32:40,827 --> 01:32:44,330 There's a building, right, bordering this facility 2179 01:32:44,330 --> 01:32:48,301 that has, cheerleading studio where little girls go to learn 2180 01:32:48,301 --> 01:32:50,336 how to do cheerleading and tumbling. 2181 01:32:50,336 --> 01:32:53,239 You're allowing the so-called worst of the worst to be housed 2182 01:32:53,239 --> 01:32:53,973 right there. 2183 01:32:53,973 --> 01:32:55,975 I do say allow, because other cities 2184 01:32:55,975 --> 01:32:58,678 are successfully fighting back against these facilities. 2185 01:32:58,678 --> 01:33:01,514 So I ask you, either 2186 01:33:01,514 --> 01:33:03,316 they really are the worst of the worst, 2187 01:33:03,316 --> 01:33:06,686 and you're doing a disservice to the children of surprise 2188 01:33:06,686 --> 01:33:09,022 by allowing them to be right next to them. 2189 01:33:09,022 --> 01:33:11,758 Or DHS is lying. 2190 01:33:11,758 --> 01:33:14,761 And either way, we shouldn't have a jail right here. 2191 01:33:14,794 --> 01:33:15,929 Not in my backyard. 2192 01:33:15,929 --> 01:33:17,797 And I would certainly not. 2193 01:33:17,797 --> 01:33:19,199 I think you need to do something. 2194 01:33:19,199 --> 01:33:21,067 There's plenty of things that you can try, 2195 01:33:21,067 --> 01:33:23,336 such as getting an environmental review. 2196 01:33:23,336 --> 01:33:25,805 You can petition our representative. 2197 01:33:25,805 --> 01:33:28,808 You can go to our senators, ask them for an inquiry. 2198 01:33:29,042 --> 01:33:30,910 You can fight back. 2199 01:33:30,910 --> 01:33:33,446 You can do something instead of just sitting here and saying, 2200 01:33:33,446 --> 01:33:36,449 no, I imagine if this was a homeless shelter 2201 01:33:36,449 --> 01:33:39,586 or a mental health center, you would find a way to stop it. 2202 01:33:39,986 --> 01:33:41,755 He would pull out all the stops. 2203 01:33:41,755 --> 01:33:46,259 He would go to the tomes of English common law, 2204 01:33:46,259 --> 01:33:48,028 dust them off and try to find 2205 01:33:48,028 --> 01:33:50,830 some appendix in there to make sure that you didn't 2206 01:33:50,830 --> 01:33:51,931 have to build this building. 2207 01:33:51,931 --> 01:33:54,934 Well, just pretend that it's that and put a stop to it. 2208 01:33:55,168 --> 01:33:56,002 Thank you very much. 2209 01:33:57,871 --> 01:34:04,511 Hey. Good evening ma'am. 2210 01:34:05,445 --> 01:34:07,247 Good evening, mayor and council members. 2211 01:34:07,247 --> 01:34:09,315 My name is Jackie Salas. 2212 01:34:09,315 --> 01:34:12,419 I'm a proud Latina American, a parent, and a long time 2213 01:34:12,419 --> 01:34:14,521 resident of surprise, Arizona. 2214 01:34:14,521 --> 01:34:15,922 I believe in our community, 2215 01:34:15,922 --> 01:34:17,991 and I'm here tonight to respectfully ask 2216 01:34:17,991 --> 01:34:20,994 that the City of Surprise not allow an Ice detention 2217 01:34:20,994 --> 01:34:23,997 center to be built or operated in our community. 2218 01:34:24,497 --> 01:34:27,067 My family and I choose surprise because it's a place 2219 01:34:27,067 --> 01:34:31,137 that values safety, family, and opportunity. 2220 01:34:31,137 --> 01:34:33,306 It's where we're raising our children, 2221 01:34:33,306 --> 01:34:36,309 building our lives, and investing in our future. 2222 01:34:36,309 --> 01:34:38,478 As a parent, I think deeply about the kind 2223 01:34:38,478 --> 01:34:40,080 of community my kids are growing up 2224 01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:41,581 and, and one of the main reasons 2225 01:34:41,581 --> 01:34:44,584 we live in this city and chose it, 2226 01:34:44,751 --> 01:34:47,721 not just what it looks like today, but what it stands for. 2227 01:34:47,721 --> 01:34:49,856 An Ice detention center does not reflect 2228 01:34:49,856 --> 01:34:51,925 the values that brought many of us here. 2229 01:34:53,259 --> 01:34:56,129 These facilities are not just buildings, they are. 2230 01:34:56,129 --> 01:34:59,099 They impact real people and real families. 2231 01:34:59,499 --> 01:35:00,500 Across the country, 2232 01:35:00,500 --> 01:35:02,602 detention centers have raised serious concerns 2233 01:35:02,602 --> 01:35:04,804 about conditions, medical care, prolonged 2234 01:35:04,804 --> 01:35:07,941 detention of individuals without clear timelines, 2235 01:35:09,542 --> 01:35:11,144 regardless of political views. 2236 01:35:11,144 --> 01:35:14,147 Because this is not about politics. 2237 01:35:17,951 --> 01:35:19,986 Human dignity should always come first. 2238 01:35:19,986 --> 01:35:23,390 As a Latino American, immigration is personal for me, 2239 01:35:23,490 --> 01:35:26,493 but as a parent and a resident, this affects everyone. 2240 01:35:27,527 --> 01:35:29,229 Facilities like these create fear 2241 01:35:29,229 --> 01:35:30,997 and communities fear that keeps parents 2242 01:35:30,997 --> 01:35:34,000 from attending school events, neighbors from reporting crimes, 2243 01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:37,137 and families from fully participating in civic life. 2244 01:35:37,437 --> 01:35:40,607 That park and surprise that we spent so much money 2245 01:35:40,607 --> 01:35:42,008 and that you guys just talked about 2246 01:35:42,008 --> 01:35:45,011 how much money is spent there will no longer be full. 2247 01:35:45,311 --> 01:35:47,013 None of us will feel safe. 2248 01:35:47,013 --> 01:35:49,082 None of our children feel safe here. 2249 01:35:50,216 --> 01:35:52,686 That fear does not make surprise safer. 2250 01:35:52,686 --> 01:35:55,655 It weakens the trust that strong communities depend on. 2251 01:35:55,655 --> 01:35:57,424 And many of us choose surprise 2252 01:35:57,424 --> 01:35:59,225 because of the sense of community 2253 01:35:59,225 --> 01:36:01,795 that we feel as we walk through the streets 2254 01:36:01,795 --> 01:36:04,798 with our children and play in the playgrounds. 2255 01:36:05,598 --> 01:36:07,367 I am also concerned about the message, 2256 01:36:07,367 --> 01:36:08,868 the sense to our children. 2257 01:36:08,868 --> 01:36:10,003 What are we teaching them? 2258 01:36:10,003 --> 01:36:12,238 If we normalize the detention of families 2259 01:36:12,238 --> 01:36:14,841 as an acceptable form of development? 2260 01:36:14,841 --> 01:36:17,544 Surprise should be a city that invest in projects 2261 01:36:17,544 --> 01:36:19,279 that bring people together, strengthen 2262 01:36:19,279 --> 01:36:22,282 our economy, and reflect compassion and responsibility. 2263 01:36:22,649 --> 01:36:25,285 I urge you to not only listen to me tonight, 2264 01:36:25,285 --> 01:36:27,954 but everybody that has signed up to speak 2265 01:36:27,954 --> 01:36:30,957 and all the people that are peacefully protesting outside. 2266 01:36:31,758 --> 01:36:33,860 I urge you not only to listen to that, 2267 01:36:33,860 --> 01:36:37,130 but also you need to deeply care about the generations 2268 01:36:37,130 --> 01:36:38,732 to come in this city. 2269 01:36:38,732 --> 01:36:40,700 Please choose development that aligns 2270 01:36:40,700 --> 01:36:43,803 with our shared values, our safety, our unity 2271 01:36:43,803 --> 01:36:46,806 and respect for all families who call surprise home. 2272 01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:48,641 I want to thank you for your time 2273 01:36:48,641 --> 01:36:49,776 and thank you for listening. 2274 01:36:49,776 --> 01:36:53,279 But most of all, we are begging you to hear us 2275 01:36:54,180 --> 01:36:57,017 to not allow this to happen to the city 2276 01:36:57,017 --> 01:36:59,919 that we are also proud to live in. Thank you. Thank you. 2277 01:37:03,890 --> 01:37:04,824 Just one moment, ma'am. 2278 01:37:04,824 --> 01:37:07,260 Before you start, I'm going to call a couple more names. Okay? 2279 01:37:07,260 --> 01:37:08,795 Just one moment. 2280 01:37:08,795 --> 01:37:10,930 Randy Carnet, 2281 01:37:10,930 --> 01:37:14,667 Olivia Lozano, Lisa Brinkman, 2282 01:37:15,235 --> 01:37:19,205 Nancy Stevens, Matthew royster. 2283 01:37:20,340 --> 01:37:21,975 Okay. Please state your name. 2284 01:37:21,975 --> 01:37:23,977 Good evening, mayor and council. 2285 01:37:23,977 --> 01:37:24,878 Jennifer Woods. 2286 01:37:24,878 --> 01:37:27,881 I live at, resident Cactus and Rams. 2287 01:37:27,881 --> 01:37:29,249 I want to be very clear. 2288 01:37:29,249 --> 01:37:30,884 I'm not a paid protester. 2289 01:37:30,884 --> 01:37:32,218 I'm not a shell. 2290 01:37:32,218 --> 01:37:35,321 I'm a daughter, mother, wife, a neighbor, a small business 2291 01:37:35,321 --> 01:37:38,324 owner here in surprise and a disabled veteran. 2292 01:37:38,758 --> 01:37:41,594 My family and I first moved to surprise in 2005. 2293 01:37:41,594 --> 01:37:42,929 We followed my sister, 2294 01:37:42,929 --> 01:37:45,665 who moved here in 2000 because it was a beautiful city. 2295 01:37:45,665 --> 01:37:48,168 City had a lot to offer. It was up and coming. 2296 01:37:48,168 --> 01:37:49,703 They entice us with families. 2297 01:37:49,703 --> 01:37:51,237 Families move here. 2298 01:37:51,237 --> 01:37:52,605 It was booming, full of promise. 2299 01:37:52,605 --> 01:37:55,709 Spring training tickets were still $5 for grass seats 2300 01:37:56,109 --> 01:37:58,678 and like many of us, we were sold on the vision of prasada. 2301 01:37:58,678 --> 01:38:00,146 Even back then. 2302 01:38:00,146 --> 01:38:01,614 The vision faded for a while, 2303 01:38:01,614 --> 01:38:04,317 but we stayed and we stayed and stayed. 2304 01:38:04,317 --> 01:38:05,585 We built a life here. 2305 01:38:05,585 --> 01:38:08,588 Multiple Goodwill's, Burger Kings and finally Prasada. 2306 01:38:08,722 --> 01:38:10,790 And I do have a bone to pick eventually with somebody 2307 01:38:10,790 --> 01:38:13,259 who planned the parking lot that isn't there. 2308 01:38:15,061 --> 01:38:15,695 Mayor, I 2309 01:38:15,695 --> 01:38:19,099 met you and your wife at Home Goods right before the election. 2310 01:38:19,532 --> 01:38:22,168 We even had a sign in our yard for you. 2311 01:38:22,168 --> 01:38:23,903 You looked me in the eye at that time, 2312 01:38:23,903 --> 01:38:26,039 and you said you would listen to all sides. 2313 01:38:26,039 --> 01:38:27,040 Both sides. 2314 01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:30,043 Didn't matter which side anybody came from, 2315 01:38:30,477 --> 01:38:32,712 that you would make informed decisions and you would do 2316 01:38:32,712 --> 01:38:35,582 what's right. You would do what's right for the city. 2317 01:38:35,582 --> 01:38:38,284 You said you would be out and about in the community, 2318 01:38:38,284 --> 01:38:40,053 talking to people and hearing everything 2319 01:38:40,053 --> 01:38:43,056 that we had to say, regardless of what side we were on. 2320 01:38:43,056 --> 01:38:44,190 And here we all are. 2321 01:38:44,190 --> 01:38:46,893 We are here coming to you. 2322 01:38:46,893 --> 01:38:48,495 The building of cactus and desert. 2323 01:38:48,495 --> 01:38:51,131 It's a inhumane operation. 2324 01:38:51,131 --> 01:38:51,564 It's about 2325 01:38:51,564 --> 01:38:54,567 to put surprise on the map and not for spring training, 2326 01:38:55,035 --> 01:38:57,771 not for the beautiful year round the weather, 2327 01:38:57,771 --> 01:38:59,939 for this, for this blemish on our city. 2328 01:39:01,841 --> 01:39:03,677 And who's standing up here for desert? 2329 01:39:03,677 --> 01:39:05,679 I'm sorry for El Mirage, 2330 01:39:05,679 --> 01:39:07,313 because this is just as much 2331 01:39:07,313 --> 01:39:09,849 in their backyard as it is, and ours. 2332 01:39:09,849 --> 01:39:12,652 Our kids are scared, our neighbors are scared, 2333 01:39:12,652 --> 01:39:15,655 and our community is divided even more now than before. 2334 01:39:16,990 --> 01:39:19,426 This will be the history that our grandchildren learn. 2335 01:39:19,426 --> 01:39:21,828 Your names will be attached to it. 2336 01:39:21,828 --> 01:39:25,198 Mayor Schaefer, she would be absolutely appalled. 2337 01:39:26,466 --> 01:39:30,303 She worked tirelessly so families will feel safe here 2338 01:39:30,770 --> 01:39:33,940 through community projects, diversity, inclusion 2339 01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:38,044 and connection, not fear and not division. 2340 01:39:39,179 --> 01:39:42,182 You may think this moment will pass quietly, but it won't. 2341 01:39:43,283 --> 01:39:45,952 Mayor Schaefer has been gone for many years, 2342 01:39:45,952 --> 01:39:47,520 and I still stand here 2343 01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:51,057 speaking on behalf of her name with absolute respect, 2344 01:39:51,057 --> 01:39:53,259 because she was a true community leader. 2345 01:39:53,259 --> 01:39:56,396 People remember her and they will always remember this. 2346 01:39:57,130 --> 01:39:59,099 We have fallen as a nation when we allowed this 2347 01:39:59,099 --> 01:40:02,068 to happen in our cities, in our own backyards, 2348 01:40:02,068 --> 01:40:04,504 we have neighbors who complain about the HOA fees, 2349 01:40:04,504 --> 01:40:07,507 but yet they are welcoming ice with open arms. 2350 01:40:07,707 --> 01:40:08,274 Not me. 2351 01:40:08,274 --> 01:40:11,444 And I refuse to look away with the rest of my time. 2352 01:40:11,444 --> 01:40:13,113 I would like to honor the men and women 2353 01:40:13,113 --> 01:40:14,881 who have lost their life, 2354 01:40:14,881 --> 01:40:17,417 their lives to Ice, people killed over power trips, 2355 01:40:17,417 --> 01:40:19,219 rage and unchecked authority. 2356 01:40:19,219 --> 01:40:21,788 I will be watching and I like to think surprised 2357 01:40:21,788 --> 01:40:25,058 is a pretty good place to raise families and live. 2358 01:40:25,225 --> 01:40:26,693 Thank you. Thank you. 2359 01:40:30,463 --> 01:40:33,466 Can I ask? 2360 01:40:33,633 --> 01:40:34,200 Good evening. 2361 01:40:34,200 --> 01:40:36,169 Council members, city staff and neighbors. 2362 01:40:36,169 --> 01:40:37,470 My name is Kendall Strobel. 2363 01:40:37,470 --> 01:40:39,439 I'm in the fourth district. 2364 01:40:39,439 --> 01:40:40,206 Before I begin, 2365 01:40:40,206 --> 01:40:41,608 I want to be honest about something 2366 01:40:41,608 --> 01:40:44,144 I am terrified of public speaking. 2367 01:40:44,144 --> 01:40:47,614 I don't seek out microphones or podiums, but standing here 2368 01:40:47,614 --> 01:40:50,617 tonight is far outside my comfort zone. 2369 01:40:50,817 --> 01:40:53,219 This issue is too important, too 2370 01:40:53,219 --> 01:40:56,222 urgent for me to let my own discomfort get in the way. 2371 01:40:56,322 --> 01:40:59,626 I am here because this proposal is not just another line item, 2372 01:40:59,626 --> 01:41:01,327 it is a direct threat to the well-being 2373 01:41:01,327 --> 01:41:04,330 of our families, our neighbors, and the future of surprise. 2374 01:41:04,731 --> 01:41:07,200 The plan to build an Ice detention center on West 2375 01:41:07,200 --> 01:41:08,968 Sweetwater is something I cannot 2376 01:41:08,968 --> 01:41:10,937 and will not stay silent about. 2377 01:41:10,937 --> 01:41:11,938 Not as a resident, 2378 01:41:11,938 --> 01:41:12,739 not as a mother, 2379 01:41:12,739 --> 01:41:13,440 and not as someone 2380 01:41:13,440 --> 01:41:16,509 who has seen firsthand the cost of human detention centers. 2381 01:41:17,811 --> 01:41:19,379 I do not want to raise my children 2382 01:41:19,379 --> 01:41:22,415 ten minutes away from a facility that brings trauma, fear, 2383 01:41:22,415 --> 01:41:25,318 and heartbreak into the communities around it. 2384 01:41:25,318 --> 01:41:28,321 I refuse to normalize the idea that suffering is something 2385 01:41:28,321 --> 01:41:31,324 our kids should grow up watching from their backyards. 2386 01:41:32,025 --> 01:41:34,060 That is not the world I want for my family, 2387 01:41:34,060 --> 01:41:37,063 and that is not the world this city should be building. 2388 01:41:37,964 --> 01:41:40,033 And the concerns here are not hypothetical. 2389 01:41:40,033 --> 01:41:41,000 They are documented, 2390 01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:42,969 they are measurable, and they are real. 2391 01:41:42,969 --> 01:41:46,406 National data shows detention centers bring increased traffic, 2392 01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:49,409 increased enforcement activity, an increased strain 2393 01:41:49,409 --> 01:41:52,445 on emergency services, often without compensation, 2394 01:41:52,445 --> 01:41:55,415 that matches the burden placed on the local systems. 2395 01:41:55,415 --> 01:41:58,385 Studies also have shown that property values within a one 2396 01:41:58,385 --> 01:42:02,355 mile radius between have dropped between 6 and 10%. 2397 01:42:02,622 --> 01:42:03,590 That affects 2398 01:42:03,590 --> 01:42:05,291 our local homeowners, families 2399 01:42:05,291 --> 01:42:08,294 and the long term economic health of our city. 2400 01:42:08,695 --> 01:42:11,097 Detention centers do not make communities safer. 2401 01:42:11,097 --> 01:42:13,199 There is no evidence that placing a detention 2402 01:42:13,199 --> 01:42:16,036 facility near neighborhoods reduces crime 2403 01:42:16,036 --> 01:42:18,838 because the people detained are not local offenders, 2404 01:42:18,838 --> 01:42:22,275 many are asylum seekers or individuals awaiting hearings. 2405 01:42:22,609 --> 01:42:26,279 So the question becomes why should surprise absorb the risk, 2406 01:42:26,513 --> 01:42:28,148 the cost and the consequences 2407 01:42:28,148 --> 01:42:30,684 of a facility that offers us nothing in return? 2408 01:42:31,751 --> 01:42:32,352 I grew up in a 2409 01:42:32,352 --> 01:42:35,355 diverse community shaped by incredible immigrant families. 2410 01:42:35,622 --> 01:42:36,656 When we moved to 2411 01:42:36,656 --> 01:42:39,659 from a small town in Washington to surprise Arizona, 2412 01:42:39,859 --> 01:42:41,294 it was because I wanted my children 2413 01:42:41,294 --> 01:42:43,163 to grow up with the same richness, 2414 01:42:43,163 --> 01:42:44,230 surrounded by people 2415 01:42:44,230 --> 01:42:47,233 from different backgrounds, cultures, and stories. 2416 01:42:47,267 --> 01:42:50,270 And I know the human reality behind these centers. 2417 01:42:50,303 --> 01:42:52,172 My uncle is an immigration lawyer. 2418 01:42:52,172 --> 01:42:54,574 I watched him spent years fighting for people seeking 2419 01:42:54,574 --> 01:42:55,809 asylum, 2420 01:42:55,809 --> 01:42:59,179 people working tirelessly for a better life for their children. 2421 01:42:59,346 --> 01:43:00,413 These were not criminals. 2422 01:43:00,413 --> 01:43:01,581 These were family 2423 01:43:01,581 --> 01:43:04,784 parents who would give anything to protect their children. 2424 01:43:05,785 --> 01:43:07,620 So when I hear that a detention center 2425 01:43:07,620 --> 01:43:10,757 is being proposed in the heart of our community, near homes, 2426 01:43:10,857 --> 01:43:13,526 schools, small businesses, I can't accept it. 2427 01:43:13,526 --> 01:43:15,328 And I know I'm not alone. 2428 01:43:15,328 --> 01:43:17,630 Look around this room. We are here because we care. 2429 01:43:17,630 --> 01:43:20,066 We are here because we see what's at stake. 2430 01:43:20,066 --> 01:43:21,901 We are here because this is our city. 2431 01:43:21,901 --> 01:43:23,103 And we will not let the federal 2432 01:43:23,103 --> 01:43:25,438 detention facility redefine who we are. 2433 01:43:26,706 --> 01:43:29,175 If this proposal moves forward in any form, 2434 01:43:29,175 --> 01:43:32,645 the Council has a responsibility to use every tool available 2435 01:43:32,645 --> 01:43:34,080 to protect its residents. 2436 01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:37,017 That means refusing to partner with or fund private 2437 01:43:37,017 --> 01:43:40,353 detention operations operators through the city contracts. 2438 01:43:42,355 --> 01:43:43,356 Can I finish my little. 2439 01:43:43,356 --> 01:43:43,957 Thank you, ma'am? 2440 01:43:43,957 --> 01:43:46,960 Okay. 2441 01:43:51,598 --> 01:43:53,066 Good evening. 2442 01:43:53,066 --> 01:43:54,334 Good evening, Mayor and Council. 2443 01:43:54,334 --> 01:43:57,771 My name is Donna Brodsky and I live near the intersection 2444 01:43:57,771 --> 01:44:00,774 of Bell and Rhames. 2445 01:44:00,940 --> 01:44:02,909 First, I want to thank you for accommodating 2446 01:44:02,909 --> 01:44:04,778 on the speakers tonight. 2447 01:44:04,778 --> 01:44:07,113 It's a long night for everyone, but 2448 01:44:07,113 --> 01:44:10,116 everybody needs a chance to be able to be heard 2449 01:44:10,650 --> 01:44:11,117 tonight. 2450 01:44:11,117 --> 01:44:14,120 I'm here because I'd like to. 2451 01:44:14,688 --> 01:44:18,058 I'd like to urge you to oppose the proposed facility. 2452 01:44:18,425 --> 01:44:21,428 And because I believe we share the same goal 2453 01:44:21,594 --> 01:44:24,364 to protect the character and safety of surprise. 2454 01:44:25,498 --> 01:44:29,135 This facility is planned within two miles of at least six 2455 01:44:29,135 --> 01:44:32,272 public and private schools, and maybe more, because you 2456 01:44:32,872 --> 01:44:35,875 you get different information when you Google it. 2457 01:44:36,142 --> 01:44:39,145 This isn't just a federal policy issue. 2458 01:44:39,212 --> 01:44:42,615 It's a land use and public safety issue that directly 2459 01:44:42,615 --> 01:44:45,618 impacts our students and our neighborhoods. 2460 01:44:46,686 --> 01:44:48,021 Well, I understand 2461 01:44:48,021 --> 01:44:51,024 the federal Supremacy Clause issue exists. 2462 01:44:51,124 --> 01:44:53,827 I believe this council can be 2463 01:44:53,827 --> 01:44:57,130 our strongest advocate, and I'm asking you to stand 2464 01:44:57,130 --> 01:45:01,034 with us by exploring every tool in the municipal toolbox. 2465 01:45:01,634 --> 01:45:04,237 For example, a few possible tools 2466 01:45:04,237 --> 01:45:07,240 might be lead with transparency. 2467 01:45:07,340 --> 01:45:11,277 Use your platform to demand that the Ice provides full 2468 01:45:11,578 --> 01:45:14,547 operational plans for residents, aren't left in the dark 2469 01:45:15,415 --> 01:45:18,251 to strict oversight. 2470 01:45:18,251 --> 01:45:18,718 Require 2471 01:45:18,718 --> 01:45:22,455 rigorous environmental traffic infrastructure impact reviews 2472 01:45:22,655 --> 01:45:26,192 anything that would help us know what they're going to do. 2473 01:45:26,693 --> 01:45:29,996 That's a that was designed as a warehouse, not as a 2474 01:45:29,996 --> 01:45:31,164 housing facility. 2475 01:45:32,298 --> 01:45:34,167 A roads and public safety resources 2476 01:45:34,167 --> 01:45:36,269 belong to this community, and we must know how 2477 01:45:36,269 --> 01:45:39,272 this facility will train them, will strain them 2478 01:45:40,040 --> 01:45:43,043 and principal partnership, 2479 01:45:43,543 --> 01:45:46,212 commit to not using any city contracts 2480 01:45:46,212 --> 01:45:49,249 or local tax dollars to subsidize the facility 2481 01:45:49,649 --> 01:45:52,619 and the operation of this detention center. 2482 01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:56,856 Lastly, we are not alone in this. 2483 01:45:56,856 --> 01:45:59,325 Other jurisdictions around the country 2484 01:45:59,325 --> 01:46:00,860 country are investigating ways 2485 01:46:00,860 --> 01:46:03,963 to reject the Ice facilities in their jurisdictions. 2486 01:46:04,631 --> 01:46:08,501 According to the El Paso Herald Post, on February 2nd, 2487 01:46:09,402 --> 01:46:11,705 the City of Orlando, the State of New Mexico, 2488 01:46:11,705 --> 01:46:15,108 Kansas City and Oklahoma City are all researching and 2489 01:46:15,108 --> 01:46:18,478 or attempting various actions to bypass the Supremacy Clause 2490 01:46:18,778 --> 01:46:21,781 and to stop potential Ice detention facilities. 2491 01:46:22,148 --> 01:46:24,684 Perhaps surprise could collaborate with 2492 01:46:24,684 --> 01:46:27,687 some of these jurisdictions. 2493 01:46:28,688 --> 01:46:31,224 We know you weren't given a seat at the table 2494 01:46:31,224 --> 01:46:34,694 when this project was planned, but you have the power 2495 01:46:35,695 --> 01:46:37,764 to pull up a chair right now. 2496 01:46:37,764 --> 01:46:40,767 Let's work together to ensure 2497 01:46:40,834 --> 01:46:44,304 that the safety of our schools and the integrity 2498 01:46:44,304 --> 01:46:47,307 of our neighborhoods remain your top priority. 2499 01:46:47,440 --> 01:46:48,308 Thank you. 2500 01:46:48,308 --> 01:46:51,311 Thank you for. 2501 01:46:53,146 --> 01:46:54,381 Where you begin, I'm going to call for. 2502 01:46:54,381 --> 01:46:54,981 Hold on one state. 2503 01:46:54,981 --> 01:46:58,151 Ma'am, can you get Karina in the back? 2504 01:46:58,151 --> 01:46:59,219 I'd like to meet with you, please. 2505 01:46:59,219 --> 01:47:01,554 After an a day or two. I've got it. 2506 01:47:01,554 --> 01:47:03,023 Okay, okay, okay. 2507 01:47:03,023 --> 01:47:03,556 Thank you. 2508 01:47:03,556 --> 01:47:04,858 Thank you 2509 01:47:04,858 --> 01:47:07,394 for the next five. 2510 01:47:07,394 --> 01:47:10,897 Names are Linda Landry, Gail 2511 01:47:10,897 --> 01:47:13,900 Manahan, Natalie artista, 2512 01:47:14,334 --> 01:47:17,404 Cassandra Harbin, Stacy Jones. 2513 01:47:18,238 --> 01:47:20,974 Thank you. Please state your name. 2514 01:47:20,974 --> 01:47:23,009 My name is Yolanda Rose. 2515 01:47:23,009 --> 01:47:26,279 I'm from Buckeye, but I show up here and surprise me. 2516 01:47:26,279 --> 01:47:29,315 Ma'am, please don't normalize by hate 2517 01:47:29,315 --> 01:47:32,318 and violence against innocent human beings. 2518 01:47:32,452 --> 01:47:35,488 Don't put detention centers in our community. 2519 01:47:36,189 --> 01:47:39,192 What we are witnessing today is not law and order. 2520 01:47:39,526 --> 01:47:41,861 It is a violation of it. 2521 01:47:41,861 --> 01:47:44,531 Over 40 innocent people have been killed 2522 01:47:44,531 --> 01:47:47,534 by Ice agents across our nation, 2523 01:47:47,834 --> 01:47:50,503 kidnaping and detaining innocent human beings 2524 01:47:50,503 --> 01:47:54,240 from their homes, cars, cars, schools and workplaces 2525 01:47:54,607 --> 01:47:57,610 based solely on how they look is illegal. 2526 01:47:57,911 --> 01:48:01,047 It violates existing federal and state laws, 2527 01:48:01,448 --> 01:48:04,451 and it violates the United States Constitution. 2528 01:48:04,751 --> 01:48:05,919 Racial profiling 2529 01:48:05,919 --> 01:48:09,622 has no place in a nation that claims to value justice. 2530 01:48:10,190 --> 01:48:11,891 Immigration laws were created 2531 01:48:11,891 --> 01:48:14,194 during the era of chattel slavery, 2532 01:48:14,194 --> 01:48:17,797 when only free white persons were allowed to become U.S. 2533 01:48:17,797 --> 01:48:18,865 citizens. 2534 01:48:18,865 --> 01:48:22,168 For more than 200 years, immigration policy 2535 01:48:22,502 --> 01:48:27,107 has been shaped by racism designed to endanger, exploited, 2536 01:48:27,107 --> 01:48:31,311 criminalized, and exclude nonwhite innocent human beings. 2537 01:48:31,745 --> 01:48:33,847 The Constitution is clear. 2538 01:48:33,847 --> 01:48:35,248 The 14th Amendment, 2539 01:48:35,248 --> 01:48:38,618 section one, guarantees equal protection under the law. 2540 01:48:39,185 --> 01:48:43,556 The Supreme Court affirms this in equal versus Hopkins 2541 01:48:43,556 --> 01:48:47,327 ruling that any person, whether present 2542 01:48:47,327 --> 01:48:51,297 any person, lawful or unlawful, temporary or permanent, 2543 01:48:51,564 --> 01:48:54,667 is entitled to constitutional protection. 2544 01:48:55,168 --> 01:48:58,705 Marginalized communities are labeled as criminals 2545 01:48:59,005 --> 01:49:02,909 when the true worst of the worst are rarely held accountable. 2546 01:49:03,443 --> 01:49:06,079 The worst of the worst are the masked men and women 2547 01:49:06,079 --> 01:49:09,949 roaming the streets shooting innocent people, doing the mall 2548 01:49:09,949 --> 01:49:13,687 time, billionaires dirty work, mass deportation. 2549 01:49:13,687 --> 01:49:15,422 It's not about safety. 2550 01:49:15,422 --> 01:49:18,591 It's about racism, ethnic cleansing, 2551 01:49:18,892 --> 01:49:22,629 profit for the greedy investors in Geo group and core civic. 2552 01:49:23,029 --> 01:49:26,132 The most dangerous criminals in our society 2553 01:49:26,399 --> 01:49:29,302 are the extreme wealthy and powerful 2554 01:49:29,302 --> 01:49:32,205 that Epstein class of multi billionaires 2555 01:49:32,205 --> 01:49:35,642 who exploit people with near-total impunity. 2556 01:49:36,242 --> 01:49:39,145 Their power allow them to influence 2557 01:49:39,145 --> 01:49:42,716 legislation, manipulate the judicial system 2558 01:49:43,049 --> 01:49:45,985 and dominate the news media and social media. 2559 01:49:45,985 --> 01:49:48,922 They shape public narratives while avoiding 2560 01:49:48,922 --> 01:49:51,925 responsibility for immense harm. 2561 01:49:51,925 --> 01:49:55,462 Justice cannot exist when the Epstein class 2562 01:49:55,462 --> 01:49:58,698 of the most powerful billionaires are in control. 2563 01:49:58,998 --> 01:50:01,167 Some laws are unjust 2564 01:50:01,167 --> 01:50:04,738 and just as the man's not blind obedience to them, 2565 01:50:05,004 --> 01:50:09,376 but the courage to change them in pursuit of a better future. 2566 01:50:09,676 --> 01:50:10,777 Abolish Ice. 2567 01:50:11,811 --> 01:50:14,814 Thank you very. 2568 01:50:17,751 --> 01:50:19,619 Touched him. 2569 01:50:19,619 --> 01:50:21,588 He says. Interesting stuff. 2570 01:50:21,588 --> 01:50:21,921 Yeah. 2571 01:50:21,921 --> 01:50:23,823 Madam clerk, we're going to take a recess 2572 01:50:23,823 --> 01:50:25,825 now for the last time and for about ten minutes. 2573 01:50:25,825 --> 01:50:27,927 Okay. 2574 01:50:27,927 --> 01:50:30,930 Before you call more names, you got it. 2575 01:50:31,398 --> 01:50:33,433 Please state good, sir. Yes, sir. 2576 01:50:33,433 --> 01:50:35,702 Good evening. My name is Matthew Reisner. 2577 01:50:35,702 --> 01:50:38,004 I appreciate your time here tonight. 2578 01:50:38,004 --> 01:50:41,007 We're not talking about normal law enforcement. 2579 01:50:41,007 --> 01:50:44,577 Normal law enforcement follows the rules of the United States, 2580 01:50:44,577 --> 01:50:47,580 the Constitution, and is accountable. 2581 01:50:47,614 --> 01:50:50,884 We're talking about the creation of a police force 2582 01:50:51,117 --> 01:50:54,854 similar to what Nazi Germany had in the 1930s, 2583 01:50:55,155 --> 01:50:58,792 with its total disregard to the citizens of the country 2584 01:50:59,159 --> 01:51:02,128 that they're supposedly protecting. 2585 01:51:06,733 --> 01:51:09,669 Surprise is about to become an experience, 2586 01:51:09,669 --> 01:51:12,672 the biggest public safety crisis in its history. 2587 01:51:13,106 --> 01:51:15,375 You're going to become the epicenter 2588 01:51:15,375 --> 01:51:18,712 across the southwest and further of huge protests, 2589 01:51:19,279 --> 01:51:21,581 thousands of people opposed to the violence 2590 01:51:21,581 --> 01:51:24,718 that Ice is using against people and the disregard 2591 01:51:24,718 --> 01:51:27,587 for the constitutional rights of all people 2592 01:51:27,587 --> 01:51:32,158 living in this country, both citizens and non citizens. 2593 01:51:32,892 --> 01:51:35,462 It will likely spark violent clashes. 2594 01:51:36,896 --> 01:51:39,766 Anon citizens, I'm sorry, I apologize. 2595 01:51:39,766 --> 01:51:44,104 It will likely spark violent clashes and more potential 2596 01:51:44,104 --> 01:51:48,208 killings, murders and detentions of innocent people 2597 01:51:49,042 --> 01:51:52,679 trying just to exercise their constitutional rights. 2598 01:51:54,447 --> 01:51:58,685 While it may be the case, possibly that there is nothing 2599 01:51:58,685 --> 01:52:01,688 that you can do to hold off 2600 01:52:01,755 --> 01:52:04,557 federal. 2601 01:52:04,557 --> 01:52:06,926 Agency wanting to come in, 2602 01:52:06,926 --> 01:52:09,329 what you can do, and there must be something 2603 01:52:09,329 --> 01:52:11,831 you can do to slow down the process 2604 01:52:11,831 --> 01:52:14,868 and put some impediments in that pathway. 2605 01:52:16,002 --> 01:52:19,272 At the very least, what you can also do 2606 01:52:19,305 --> 01:52:23,343 is to pass a resolution stating on record 2607 01:52:23,343 --> 01:52:26,346 that you all oppose this facility 2608 01:52:26,846 --> 01:52:29,849 that is proposed for the town of surprise. 2609 01:52:31,051 --> 01:52:33,720 What I lastly do want to say though, 2610 01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:38,058 this detention prison center does not belong in 2611 01:52:38,291 --> 01:52:42,395 anybody's backyard, any place in the United States. 2612 01:52:42,729 --> 01:52:44,397 I should be disbanded. 2613 01:52:44,397 --> 01:52:48,334 And anything this board does in support of this, 2614 01:52:48,334 --> 01:52:51,337 or not doing anything to impede Ice 2615 01:52:51,538 --> 01:52:54,808 is supporting them by your silence. 2616 01:52:55,241 --> 01:52:56,810 Thank you. Thank you sir. 2617 01:53:01,114 --> 01:53:01,981 Okay, 2618 01:53:01,981 --> 01:53:04,984 mayor and members of the council, I'm Eugene Hunt. 2619 01:53:05,385 --> 01:53:08,355 I'm a resident of surprise. 2620 01:53:08,355 --> 01:53:10,857 I live in a son village. 2621 01:53:10,857 --> 01:53:13,426 Bell and son village. 2622 01:53:13,426 --> 01:53:16,062 I'm an architect and a planner. 2623 01:53:16,062 --> 01:53:19,065 I have an active practice, and I have a past experience 2624 01:53:19,399 --> 01:53:22,402 in correctional facilities, and my, 2625 01:53:22,869 --> 01:53:25,338 want to address you tonight because I think this is an 2626 01:53:25,338 --> 01:53:28,575 inappropriate location for this type facility. 2627 01:53:29,409 --> 01:53:30,510 They're talking about 2628 01:53:30,510 --> 01:53:32,712 one of the busiest intersections in the city. 2629 01:53:32,712 --> 01:53:34,214 A surprise. 2630 01:53:34,214 --> 01:53:37,217 It it's also a building that wasn't designed for this 2631 01:53:37,217 --> 01:53:38,451 purpose. 2632 01:53:38,451 --> 01:53:41,154 It's an industrial warehouse building. 2633 01:53:41,154 --> 01:53:42,589 I think 2634 01:53:42,589 --> 01:53:44,090 if they were going to locate here, 2635 01:53:44,090 --> 01:53:45,792 they should have done some planning rather 2636 01:53:45,792 --> 01:53:48,328 than just buy a first building on the street. 2637 01:53:48,328 --> 01:53:50,463 It's an inappropriate location. 2638 01:53:50,463 --> 01:53:52,265 I think it's going to be a disaster for 2639 01:53:52,265 --> 01:53:54,567 those that are going to be incarcerated there. 2640 01:53:54,567 --> 01:53:58,738 So I would ask your favor in not approving this location. 2641 01:53:58,738 --> 01:54:00,373 Thank you. Thank you sir. 2642 01:54:04,978 --> 01:54:05,311 Good evening. 2643 01:54:05,311 --> 01:54:06,579 Good evening mayor, Council. 2644 01:54:06,579 --> 01:54:08,982 Missus Davis, my name is William Cunningham. 2645 01:54:08,982 --> 01:54:11,951 I have lived near Litchfield Waddell for 17 years. 2646 01:54:11,951 --> 01:54:12,485 I'm here today 2647 01:54:12,485 --> 01:54:14,554 to voice my strong opposition to the federal purchase 2648 01:54:14,554 --> 01:54:16,322 of the warehouse on Sweetwater Avenue, 2649 01:54:16,322 --> 01:54:16,790 but approached 2650 01:54:16,790 --> 01:54:17,957 from a slightly different approach 2651 01:54:17,957 --> 01:54:20,460 than in many others here, but similar to, 2652 01:54:20,460 --> 01:54:22,228 the gentleman architect. 2653 01:54:22,228 --> 01:54:23,863 While I understand the legal complexities 2654 01:54:23,863 --> 01:54:25,198 regarding federal authority, 2655 01:54:25,198 --> 01:54:26,499 it's deeply disappointing 2656 01:54:26,499 --> 01:54:27,567 to see the federal government 2657 01:54:27,567 --> 01:54:29,169 abandon the good neighbor policies 2658 01:54:29,169 --> 01:54:31,337 that have traditionally defined these relations. 2659 01:54:31,337 --> 01:54:33,273 Historically, even when federal agencies 2660 01:54:33,273 --> 01:54:35,675 had the legal right to bypass local zoning, 2661 01:54:35,675 --> 01:54:37,277 they work closely with cities to ensure 2662 01:54:37,277 --> 01:54:40,246 project wouldn't overwhelm local infrastructure. 2663 01:54:40,246 --> 01:54:41,781 This property was marketed as a class 2664 01:54:41,781 --> 01:54:44,884 A distribution facility, premium asset designed to attract 2665 01:54:44,884 --> 01:54:47,887 high quality corporate tenants and jobs to surprise. 2666 01:54:47,987 --> 01:54:50,657 Its original design included less than 20 500ft² of office 2667 01:54:50,657 --> 01:54:53,660 space with plumbing intended for a standard warehouse staff 2668 01:54:53,827 --> 01:54:55,428 retrofitting the same shell to house 2669 01:54:55,428 --> 01:54:57,197 1500 people creates an immediate, 2670 01:54:57,197 --> 01:55:00,200 unplanned for load on our city's water and sewer lines. 2671 01:55:00,300 --> 01:55:02,035 By bypassing our planning department, 2672 01:55:02,035 --> 01:55:04,137 the federal government is forcing a massive utility 2673 01:55:04,137 --> 01:55:05,572 burden onto our local system 2674 01:55:05,572 --> 01:55:07,207 without a single public impact study. 2675 01:55:08,208 --> 01:55:10,677 Furthermore, we must consider the long term scars 2676 01:55:10,677 --> 01:55:12,812 this leaves on our industrial corridor 2677 01:55:12,812 --> 01:55:14,381 by installing specialized plumbing 2678 01:55:14,381 --> 01:55:15,715 and high security reinforcements. 2679 01:55:15,715 --> 01:55:18,418 They're effectively ruining the buildings for resale value. 2680 01:55:18,418 --> 01:55:21,187 No CEO is going to move their company into a facility 2681 01:55:21,187 --> 01:55:23,556 that requires millions of dollars to remediate. 2682 01:55:23,556 --> 01:55:26,393 Just a strip of detention cells and hundreds of floor drains. 2683 01:55:26,393 --> 01:55:27,460 They will simply move those jobs 2684 01:55:27,460 --> 01:55:29,963 to a clean site in a neighboring city. 2685 01:55:29,963 --> 01:55:32,232 Finally, we must look at the exit strategy 2686 01:55:32,232 --> 01:55:34,768 when this site is eventually vacated 2687 01:55:34,768 --> 01:55:37,737 federal law under title five of the Mckinney-vento act. 2688 01:55:38,071 --> 01:55:39,506 But you guys writing this down 2689 01:55:39,506 --> 01:55:42,175 requires that surplus federal property be offered to 2690 01:55:42,175 --> 01:55:45,178 regional homeless shelter providers at no cost 2691 01:55:45,178 --> 01:55:48,148 before it can be sold to a private developer, 2692 01:55:48,615 --> 01:55:51,017 because this building will have already 2693 01:55:51,017 --> 01:55:52,285 will already have the massive plumbing 2694 01:55:52,285 --> 01:55:54,521 and bed capacity for 1500 people. 2695 01:55:54,521 --> 01:55:57,524 It will be flagged as a perfect candidate for a permanent 2696 01:55:57,757 --> 01:56:00,427 large scale regional homeless shelter. 2697 01:56:01,995 --> 01:56:03,129 By allowing this build out 2698 01:56:03,129 --> 01:56:05,231 now, we are essentially letting the federal government 2699 01:56:05,231 --> 01:56:08,234 repackage a prime industrial site into a permanent 2700 01:56:08,435 --> 01:56:11,438 non-tax generating shelter hub. 2701 01:56:11,604 --> 01:56:14,207 I urge this council to use every utility 2702 01:56:14,207 --> 01:56:17,210 and legal lever available to protect our city's vision. 2703 01:56:17,277 --> 01:56:20,480 Surprise deserves a future built on economic growth, 2704 01:56:21,147 --> 01:56:22,415 not a permanent zombie building 2705 01:56:22,415 --> 01:56:24,884 forced on us by federal overreach. 2706 01:56:24,884 --> 01:56:26,386 We deserve development that contributes 2707 01:56:26,386 --> 01:56:27,587 to our local economy 2708 01:56:27,587 --> 01:56:28,922 and aligns with the long term vision 2709 01:56:28,922 --> 01:56:31,825 of the people who actually live here. Thank you. 2710 01:56:31,825 --> 01:56:34,828 Thank you. 2711 01:56:36,262 --> 01:56:38,098 Mr. Murray, 2712 01:56:38,098 --> 01:56:41,067 Mr. Murray, can you, sir, 2713 01:56:41,334 --> 01:56:43,269 you're speaking out of turn. 2714 01:56:43,269 --> 01:56:45,238 Thank you, 2715 01:56:45,238 --> 01:56:45,739 Mr. Murray. 2716 01:56:45,739 --> 01:56:48,842 Can you do research on the Mckinney-vento act, 2717 01:56:48,842 --> 01:56:51,845 please, and brief us? 2718 01:56:52,012 --> 01:56:55,015 Ma'am, I. 2719 01:56:56,549 --> 01:56:57,984 Hi, my name is Lisa 2720 01:56:57,984 --> 01:57:01,021 Brinkman and I live over at Cotton Lane and Waddell Road. 2721 01:57:01,021 --> 01:57:03,189 And I've lived in surprise for about ten years now. 2722 01:57:04,391 --> 01:57:07,260 I'm also not a professional public speaker. 2723 01:57:07,260 --> 01:57:10,897 My interest, is in the humane treatment of people 2724 01:57:10,897 --> 01:57:13,099 that would potentially be at this facility, 2725 01:57:13,099 --> 01:57:15,068 because we all know that that facility 2726 01:57:15,068 --> 01:57:17,570 is going to be targeted as a detention center. 2727 01:57:17,570 --> 01:57:19,239 It's a very personal to me. 2728 01:57:19,239 --> 01:57:22,642 My husband is from Guatemala and he works for the US, 2729 01:57:23,309 --> 01:57:26,413 United States Postal Service, and he's in our neighborhoods 2730 01:57:26,413 --> 01:57:27,647 all the time. 2731 01:57:27,647 --> 01:57:30,650 I make him carry his U.S passport card with him 2732 01:57:30,717 --> 01:57:31,851 because I'm scared to death 2733 01:57:31,851 --> 01:57:33,687 they're going to grab him off the street, 2734 01:57:33,687 --> 01:57:36,690 and I'm not going to know when or where he's going. 2735 01:57:37,524 --> 01:57:38,958 But what I'd like to talk to you about, 2736 01:57:38,958 --> 01:57:40,827 which I think that it would be more interesting 2737 01:57:40,827 --> 01:57:42,529 for you, is how you can fight back. 2738 01:57:44,330 --> 01:57:46,966 Leavenworth, Kansas. 2739 01:57:46,966 --> 01:57:49,369 There are situation is a little bit different. 2740 01:57:49,369 --> 01:57:52,372 They have a private, 2741 01:57:53,206 --> 01:57:55,709 profit prison system that's coming in to try 2742 01:57:55,709 --> 01:57:57,644 to reactivate a shut down prison 2743 01:57:57,644 --> 01:58:00,113 in their community as a detention center. 2744 01:58:00,113 --> 01:58:05,685 And so they are using land use rights to fight back against Ice 2745 01:58:05,685 --> 01:58:08,488 taking over that facility for that purpose. 2746 01:58:08,488 --> 01:58:11,491 And the way they're doing that is they're, 2747 01:58:11,958 --> 01:58:13,660 pushing for. 2748 01:58:13,660 --> 01:58:14,361 Let's see. 2749 01:58:14,361 --> 01:58:17,364 Sorry, I wrote it down. 2750 01:58:21,034 --> 01:58:21,935 Oh, they're, 2751 01:58:21,935 --> 01:58:24,938 requiring a public review process. 2752 01:58:25,138 --> 01:58:28,008 Which is 2753 01:58:28,008 --> 01:58:30,710 required for a special use permit. 2754 01:58:30,710 --> 01:58:34,547 So because that facility wasn't intended for that purpose, 2755 01:58:35,548 --> 01:58:38,318 and their jurisdiction, it requires a special 2756 01:58:38,318 --> 01:58:41,821 use permit, which then opens up that process for public review. 2757 01:58:42,088 --> 01:58:44,524 So it's put forward in front of the residents. 2758 01:58:44,524 --> 01:58:46,726 That way the residents get to decide 2759 01:58:46,726 --> 01:58:49,262 whether or not that facility is going forward. 2760 01:58:49,262 --> 01:58:51,464 And it's currently in, 2761 01:58:51,464 --> 01:58:54,067 a legal process with the US Department of Justice 2762 01:58:54,067 --> 01:58:56,436 who is trying to back that private prison 2763 01:58:56,436 --> 01:58:59,739 and the use of that prison as a detention center. 2764 01:59:01,174 --> 01:59:04,644 So, that's also an avenue for us. 2765 01:59:04,644 --> 01:59:08,048 The ACLU is supporting their efforts in that, 2766 01:59:08,348 --> 01:59:11,317 legal process with the Department of Justice, 2767 01:59:11,317 --> 01:59:13,253 providing support with documentation 2768 01:59:13,253 --> 01:59:15,288 of the inhumane treatment of people, 2769 01:59:15,288 --> 01:59:17,657 the safety issues, understaffing, 2770 01:59:17,657 --> 01:59:19,926 management problems in these facilities 2771 01:59:19,926 --> 01:59:20,760 and the fact that the 2772 01:59:20,760 --> 01:59:24,364 warehouse here is also not zoned for residential use. 2773 01:59:24,631 --> 01:59:28,535 You can use that to stop them from taking over that facility. 2774 01:59:28,968 --> 01:59:32,439 So as the woman before me said, we do have options available 2775 01:59:32,439 --> 01:59:35,575 for us to fight back against the federal government. 2776 01:59:35,575 --> 01:59:39,179 And I implore you to please use every means you can to do so 2777 01:59:39,779 --> 01:59:41,548 for our community, for our residents. 2778 01:59:41,548 --> 01:59:45,251 Anybody that's affected in our community affects everyone. 2779 01:59:45,585 --> 01:59:48,588 And I please, please urge you to take care of all of us. 2780 01:59:48,822 --> 01:59:50,256 Thank you so much. Thank you. 2781 01:59:55,428 --> 01:59:56,129 Good evening. 2782 01:59:56,129 --> 01:59:59,032 Good evening, mayor and council members. 2783 01:59:59,032 --> 02:00:01,034 My name is Natalie Batiste. 2784 02:00:01,034 --> 02:00:02,435 I'm a registered nurse. 2785 02:00:02,435 --> 02:00:05,438 I'm a volunteer community outreach specialist, 2786 02:00:05,538 --> 02:00:08,375 and for over a decade, I've been a resident of the City 2787 02:00:08,375 --> 02:00:11,978 of Surprise, specifically Greenway Road and Cotton Lane. 2788 02:00:13,079 --> 02:00:14,614 I'm here to speak about this 2789 02:00:14,614 --> 02:00:16,716 building purchased last month by Ice, 2790 02:00:16,716 --> 02:00:18,752 and why the City of Surprise should not allow them 2791 02:00:18,752 --> 02:00:21,755 to set up operations in our community. 2792 02:00:21,821 --> 02:00:24,090 I've heard the argument that this facility would make 2793 02:00:24,090 --> 02:00:27,093 our community safer from an immigration standpoint. 2794 02:00:27,527 --> 02:00:30,530 I want to respectfully but firmly challenge that claim 2795 02:00:30,797 --> 02:00:32,098 because it does not reflect 2796 02:00:32,098 --> 02:00:35,068 what actually ends up happening on the ground. 2797 02:00:35,702 --> 02:00:38,171 I've seen with my own eyes what it looks like 2798 02:00:38,171 --> 02:00:41,274 when Ice expands its operations into a community 2799 02:00:41,608 --> 02:00:45,045 such as in Portland, where I've been doing what I can to help. 2800 02:00:46,646 --> 02:00:49,049 What follows is not increased safety. 2801 02:00:49,049 --> 02:00:50,483 It is fear. 2802 02:00:50,483 --> 02:00:52,686 Families, both immigrant and U.S. 2803 02:00:52,686 --> 02:00:55,689 citizens, become afraid to leave their homes. 2804 02:00:56,156 --> 02:00:59,426 Parents stop taking children to school, stop taking them 2805 02:00:59,426 --> 02:01:02,429 to their activities, and even to doctor appointments. 2806 02:01:02,829 --> 02:01:06,032 Victims stop calling the police because trust is lost 2807 02:01:06,032 --> 02:01:09,035 when they witness local law enforcement working with Ice 2808 02:01:10,370 --> 02:01:14,274 communities go into hiding, local businesses suffer. 2809 02:01:14,908 --> 02:01:16,910 That is not public safety. 2810 02:01:16,910 --> 02:01:19,913 That is destabilization. 2811 02:01:19,913 --> 02:01:22,949 Facilities like this bring increased surveillance, 2812 02:01:22,949 --> 02:01:26,653 militarized activity and trauma into surrounding neighborhoods. 2813 02:01:27,253 --> 02:01:30,957 They disproportionately impact people of color, mixed status 2814 02:01:30,957 --> 02:01:32,359 families and U.S. 2815 02:01:32,359 --> 02:01:35,095 citizens who are mistakenly detained. 2816 02:01:35,095 --> 02:01:36,329 The ripple effects harm 2817 02:01:36,329 --> 02:01:39,332 the entire community, not just immigrants. 2818 02:01:40,266 --> 02:01:42,902 Surprise is a city that prides itself on being 2819 02:01:42,902 --> 02:01:47,607 family oriented, welcoming, and safe to approving. 2820 02:01:47,607 --> 02:01:50,577 This facility will move us in the opposite direction. 2821 02:01:51,077 --> 02:01:54,614 It would tie our city's name and resources to, 2822 02:01:55,348 --> 02:01:57,484 system agencies that have documented 2823 02:01:57,484 --> 02:02:00,487 history of constitutional rights violations, 2824 02:02:00,620 --> 02:02:02,322 a lack of accountability 2825 02:02:02,322 --> 02:02:05,225 and violence towards both immigrants and U.S. 2826 02:02:05,225 --> 02:02:05,925 citizens. 2827 02:02:08,294 --> 02:02:09,896 I ask you to please, 2828 02:02:09,896 --> 02:02:13,199 look at and listen to the lived experiences of the communities 2829 02:02:13,199 --> 02:02:16,202 that have already been through this, such as Portland, 2830 02:02:16,236 --> 02:02:20,006 Los Angeles, Chicago, Minneapolis, and so many more. 2831 02:02:20,807 --> 02:02:21,441 Look at 2832 02:02:21,441 --> 02:02:25,245 inviting ice into the community has done to those communities. 2833 02:02:26,279 --> 02:02:29,215 Do not allow Ice or any of these federal agencies 2834 02:02:29,215 --> 02:02:32,218 to set up operations in our beautiful city of surprise. 2835 02:02:32,419 --> 02:02:35,422 Thank you. 2836 02:02:39,893 --> 02:02:42,896 Mayor and Congress or 2837 02:02:42,996 --> 02:02:45,999 the members of the board here. 2838 02:02:46,900 --> 02:02:48,234 My name is Linda Landry. 2839 02:02:48,234 --> 02:02:51,237 I've been in surprise for 25 years. 2840 02:02:51,571 --> 02:02:54,574 Homeowner I worked at Palo Verde for 25 years. 2841 02:02:55,041 --> 02:02:59,346 And, that came to surprise because it's a nice community. 2842 02:02:59,813 --> 02:03:02,816 Lots of changes have occurred in this community, 2843 02:03:03,283 --> 02:03:04,217 a lot of growth. 2844 02:03:04,217 --> 02:03:06,052 And I've seen a lot of it. 2845 02:03:06,052 --> 02:03:07,887 And I like surprise. 2846 02:03:07,887 --> 02:03:08,922 And I don't want it to be, 2847 02:03:10,423 --> 02:03:11,758 place that has 2848 02:03:11,758 --> 02:03:15,562 a, some facility that is not appropriate. 2849 02:03:15,962 --> 02:03:19,265 I object to the DHS and Ice creating 2850 02:03:19,499 --> 02:03:22,469 1500 bed detention facilities. 2851 02:03:22,502 --> 02:03:25,672 Few things I want you to, consider. 2852 02:03:25,805 --> 02:03:28,608 And then I have some background in utility. 2853 02:03:28,608 --> 02:03:31,978 So one of the things is where is the power coming from? 2854 02:03:32,445 --> 02:03:34,280 We have a limited amount of power. 2855 02:03:34,280 --> 02:03:36,549 It's not, unlimited. 2856 02:03:36,549 --> 02:03:38,018 And we have to create it. 2857 02:03:38,018 --> 02:03:39,986 It has to be created somewhere. 2858 02:03:39,986 --> 02:03:42,689 And Palo Verde produces quite a bit of power, 2859 02:03:42,689 --> 02:03:44,557 but not all of it. 2860 02:03:44,557 --> 02:03:47,193 Another thing is huge water requirements. 2861 02:03:47,193 --> 02:03:49,429 Where's our water coming from? 2862 02:03:49,429 --> 02:03:50,597 You know I do. 2863 02:03:50,597 --> 02:03:53,533 You you are responsible for making sure 2864 02:03:53,533 --> 02:03:55,935 that your residents have plenty of water. 2865 02:03:55,935 --> 02:04:00,306 There's drinking water, cooking showers, toilets, sewage. 2866 02:04:00,440 --> 02:04:02,142 Another thing, sewage increase. 2867 02:04:02,142 --> 02:04:04,044 We have a limited capacity. 2868 02:04:04,044 --> 02:04:08,982 Buckeye has a huge facility for sewer, but it's not unlimited. 2869 02:04:10,517 --> 02:04:11,017 These are 2870 02:04:11,017 --> 02:04:14,020 impacts that I hope that you consider. 2871 02:04:14,120 --> 02:04:17,123 And these impacts are important because, 2872 02:04:17,290 --> 02:04:17,857 you know, 2873 02:04:17,857 --> 02:04:20,960 we don't want to run out of water or power or sewage 2874 02:04:21,327 --> 02:04:23,830 and fire and rescue is another thing. 2875 02:04:23,830 --> 02:04:25,865 Do we have a plan and, 2876 02:04:25,865 --> 02:04:28,201 evacuation plans for getting these people out? 2877 02:04:28,201 --> 02:04:31,204 An event in an event of the, huge fire. 2878 02:04:31,671 --> 02:04:32,038 If they're 2879 02:04:32,038 --> 02:04:36,409 detained and locked up, we could have a huge disaster. 2880 02:04:36,409 --> 02:04:38,044 Do we want that in our community? 2881 02:04:38,044 --> 02:04:39,446 I don't think so. 2882 02:04:39,446 --> 02:04:40,513 Medical impacts. 2883 02:04:40,513 --> 02:04:43,249 What about, fire? 2884 02:04:43,249 --> 02:04:45,819 People rescue in hospitals. 2885 02:04:45,819 --> 02:04:48,888 If that's 1500 people, they have to go somewhere. 2886 02:04:48,888 --> 02:04:52,492 If in the event that there's an outbreak of disease, 2887 02:04:53,727 --> 02:04:56,730 medical impact, summer heat, 2888 02:04:56,930 --> 02:04:59,933 a warehouse is not designed for summer heat. 2889 02:05:00,200 --> 02:05:02,569 It is. Insulation is not adequate. 2890 02:05:02,569 --> 02:05:05,939 And its air conditioning, facilities are not adequate. 2891 02:05:06,239 --> 02:05:07,607 So they the 2892 02:05:07,607 --> 02:05:10,543 they can't take care of people, create a lot of heat. 2893 02:05:10,543 --> 02:05:12,946 And you have a lot of people in a small area, 2894 02:05:12,946 --> 02:05:15,048 and then all of a sudden you have too much heat. 2895 02:05:15,048 --> 02:05:16,850 Deaths could occur. 2896 02:05:16,850 --> 02:05:19,219 Do we want that to happen? And surprise. 2897 02:05:19,219 --> 02:05:21,121 I don't think so. 2898 02:05:21,121 --> 02:05:23,957 I just want to make sure that you, 2899 02:05:23,957 --> 02:05:27,360 consider these impacts on the city of Surprise. 2900 02:05:27,827 --> 02:05:31,097 And they're not alone in that, in that detention center. 2901 02:05:31,398 --> 02:05:33,633 They're not they're not an island. 2902 02:05:33,633 --> 02:05:37,237 They have to have all of these infrastructures in place. 2903 02:05:37,237 --> 02:05:40,774 And you are all responsible for them 2904 02:05:40,774 --> 02:05:43,977 having those, facilities available to them. 2905 02:05:43,977 --> 02:05:46,446 Thank you for your your considerations. Thank you. 2906 02:05:51,418 --> 02:05:54,721 Sir. Honorable mayor and will. 2907 02:05:54,721 --> 02:05:55,288 Deputy mayor 2908 02:05:55,288 --> 02:05:57,223 and honorable members of the City Council, 2909 02:05:57,223 --> 02:06:00,060 thank you for the opportunity to come and speak about the Ice 2910 02:06:00,060 --> 02:06:01,494 detention facility. 2911 02:06:01,494 --> 02:06:03,029 My name is Casey Jones. 2912 02:06:03,029 --> 02:06:04,731 I live in district one. 2913 02:06:04,731 --> 02:06:06,966 In Arizona. Traditions. 2914 02:06:06,966 --> 02:06:10,236 I'd like to make four points about the Ice detention 2915 02:06:10,236 --> 02:06:11,638 facility. 2916 02:06:11,638 --> 02:06:14,307 First, Ice is recklessly 2917 02:06:14,307 --> 02:06:17,277 and incompetently pursuing its mission. 2918 02:06:17,711 --> 02:06:19,779 One example you may not know about, but 2919 02:06:19,779 --> 02:06:24,751 you'll recall from the news this last spring, 252 2920 02:06:25,318 --> 02:06:29,689 Venezuelans were forcibly deported to San Salvador, 2921 02:06:30,623 --> 02:06:32,892 El Salvador, and they were incarcerated, 2922 02:06:32,892 --> 02:06:35,895 going to the secret detention center. 2923 02:06:36,896 --> 02:06:39,899 Now there's a group called Human Rights Watch, 2924 02:06:40,200 --> 02:06:40,667 a private 2925 02:06:40,667 --> 02:06:44,204 nonprofit organization, and they had access to Ice data. 2926 02:06:44,604 --> 02:06:47,207 And they found the following 2927 02:06:47,207 --> 02:06:50,310 half of those people that were deported had no record 2928 02:06:50,310 --> 02:06:53,313 whatsoever in the United States for a criminal conviction 2929 02:06:53,847 --> 02:06:55,949 or a conviction of any kind. 2930 02:06:55,949 --> 02:06:58,918 There were another one fourth of those people 2931 02:06:59,419 --> 02:07:02,222 who had pending charges 2932 02:07:02,222 --> 02:07:04,457 but undecided charges. 2933 02:07:04,457 --> 02:07:06,793 So there were no convictions among those people. 2934 02:07:06,793 --> 02:07:08,762 They were in the process of being adjudicated. 2935 02:07:10,530 --> 02:07:11,831 There were only 2936 02:07:11,831 --> 02:07:14,834 a third and, pardon me, a 3%, 2937 02:07:15,969 --> 02:07:18,838 of the people had been convicted of a previous 2938 02:07:18,838 --> 02:07:21,841 violent crime or a crime that could be violent, 2939 02:07:22,142 --> 02:07:26,279 and the rest of the people had minor convictions for 2940 02:07:26,279 --> 02:07:30,083 really misdemeanor type things, very minor kinds of things. 2941 02:07:30,583 --> 02:07:33,620 So a great proportion of those people, contrary 2942 02:07:33,620 --> 02:07:36,623 to what was publicized, we're not criminals. 2943 02:07:36,790 --> 02:07:38,525 We're not the worst. 2944 02:07:38,525 --> 02:07:41,061 So it counterpoints 2945 02:07:41,061 --> 02:07:43,730 the argument that ice is going 2946 02:07:43,730 --> 02:07:46,733 after the most serious criminals. 2947 02:07:46,900 --> 02:07:48,468 The other thing is Minneapolis. 2948 02:07:48,468 --> 02:07:49,669 And that speaks for itself. 2949 02:07:49,669 --> 02:07:52,672 I'm not going to repeat all the horror we've seen there. 2950 02:07:52,839 --> 02:07:56,076 My second main point is that that warehouse 2951 02:07:56,876 --> 02:07:59,779 where this is intended to be 2952 02:07:59,779 --> 02:08:02,749 was never designed to be a housing, 2953 02:08:02,749 --> 02:08:05,752 for and for human beings. 2954 02:08:06,119 --> 02:08:09,155 And I do know this there was a 2955 02:08:09,155 --> 02:08:13,126 permit issued by the City of Surprise on December 23rd 2956 02:08:14,294 --> 02:08:18,264 to construct some tenant improvements. 2957 02:08:18,264 --> 02:08:20,767 This was issued to Rockefeller Group, 2958 02:08:20,767 --> 02:08:23,770 the group that sold this property to Ice. 2959 02:08:23,937 --> 02:08:26,473 So that was put into place before anybody knew 2960 02:08:26,473 --> 02:08:29,476 that Ice was coming. 2961 02:08:30,110 --> 02:08:32,579 Better hurry and wrap this up. 2962 02:08:32,579 --> 02:08:34,414 I would commend you to have your permit, 2963 02:08:34,414 --> 02:08:37,617 and your inspectors inspect that facility to make sure 2964 02:08:37,617 --> 02:08:40,754 that it is decently habitable for human beings. 2965 02:08:41,388 --> 02:08:42,122 Another point 2966 02:08:42,122 --> 02:08:45,992 is that's very close to schools, as people have mentioned, 2967 02:08:45,992 --> 02:08:48,862 but also to the Dysart Community Center. 2968 02:08:48,862 --> 02:08:51,598 Urge ice to leave that community alone. 2969 02:08:51,598 --> 02:08:54,167 It serves a large Hispanic community. 2970 02:08:54,167 --> 02:08:55,168 And finally, 2971 02:08:55,168 --> 02:08:55,869 I would commend you 2972 02:08:55,869 --> 02:08:59,406 to pass a five year moratorium like the city of Saint Louis. 2973 02:08:59,406 --> 02:09:01,441 Did I have a copy of the ordinance right here? 2974 02:09:01,441 --> 02:09:03,777 And it was attached to my request to speak. 2975 02:09:03,777 --> 02:09:04,377 Thank you sir. 2976 02:09:11,718 --> 02:09:13,553 Good evening. 2977 02:09:13,553 --> 02:09:14,087 Good evening. 2978 02:09:14,087 --> 02:09:16,523 My name is Claudia Nolasco. 2979 02:09:16,523 --> 02:09:19,259 I'm an American citizen, born and raised in Arizona. 2980 02:09:19,259 --> 02:09:22,662 And I stand before you tonight asking that respectfully 2981 02:09:22,662 --> 02:09:25,665 and urgently, that you listen to the voices of our community. 2982 02:09:25,765 --> 02:09:27,901 For many of us, having Mexican heritage 2983 02:09:27,901 --> 02:09:30,437 in this moment feels incredibly heavy. 2984 02:09:30,437 --> 02:09:33,573 The constant weigh of fear, fear of leaving our homes, 2985 02:09:33,773 --> 02:09:36,843 taking our children to school, or fear of going to work, 2986 02:09:37,977 --> 02:09:40,947 and fear of carrying out the most basic task. 2987 02:09:42,148 --> 02:09:43,683 This is not a way. 2988 02:09:43,683 --> 02:09:46,619 This is not any way a family should have to live. 2989 02:09:46,619 --> 02:09:47,587 I am a United States 2990 02:09:47,587 --> 02:09:51,458 citizen, an American with Hispanic heritage and I. 2991 02:09:51,458 --> 02:09:54,361 And yet I live in fear every day. 2992 02:09:54,361 --> 02:09:57,197 If this is my reality, I cannot express the pain 2993 02:09:57,197 --> 02:09:58,498 and anxiety experienced 2994 02:09:58,498 --> 02:10:02,769 by those who are here and who are here legally under DACA, 2995 02:10:04,437 --> 02:10:07,307 permanent residency, or any kind of work visa. 2996 02:10:07,307 --> 02:10:09,843 The issue is far greater than political differences. 2997 02:10:09,843 --> 02:10:13,213 It's about humanity, compassion, and it's about dignity. 2998 02:10:13,713 --> 02:10:16,816 Our Mexican and Latino communities are not outsiders. 2999 02:10:17,083 --> 02:10:18,551 They're they are essentials. 3000 02:10:18,551 --> 02:10:20,186 They're workers, parents, 3001 02:10:20,186 --> 02:10:23,189 caregivers, business owners, and our neighbors. 3002 02:10:24,224 --> 02:10:27,460 They're a vital part of what truly makes this country strong. 3003 02:10:27,927 --> 02:10:30,597 I ask you this tonight, what steps do you plan 3004 02:10:30,597 --> 02:10:33,566 to ensure the safety of our Latino community members? 3005 02:10:34,534 --> 02:10:37,504 My children are still very young, 3006 02:10:37,504 --> 02:10:40,507 yet they're already live in fear 3007 02:10:40,507 --> 02:10:43,376 that they may come home one day and not find their parents, 3008 02:10:43,376 --> 02:10:44,577 their 3009 02:10:44,577 --> 02:10:47,981 no child should ever have to carry that fear at their age. 3010 02:10:48,348 --> 02:10:51,718 They should be focused on learning, dreaming and growing, 3011 02:10:52,185 --> 02:10:55,188 not worried about family separation. 3012 02:10:57,057 --> 02:10:57,724 Our children 3013 02:10:57,724 --> 02:11:00,894 should be happy and proud to be Hispanic. 3014 02:11:02,996 --> 02:11:05,465 Not taught to fear it. 3015 02:11:05,465 --> 02:11:08,134 With that in mind, I respectfully urge you 3016 02:11:08,134 --> 02:11:11,404 to reconsider the establishment of the Ice facility. 3017 02:11:12,806 --> 02:11:15,575 Its presence does not bring any safety to our community. 3018 02:11:15,575 --> 02:11:18,378 It brings fear, trauma, and division. 3019 02:11:18,378 --> 02:11:21,448 We should not allow policies that that place the families 3020 02:11:21,448 --> 02:11:22,949 at risk and undermine 3021 02:11:22,949 --> 02:11:25,652 the sense of security every resident deserves. 3022 02:11:25,652 --> 02:11:27,987 No person should ever be detained, 3023 02:11:27,987 --> 02:11:30,957 targeted or locked away simply for being Hispanic. 3024 02:11:30,957 --> 02:11:32,592 Our identities are not a crime. 3025 02:11:32,592 --> 02:11:34,761 Our culture is not a threat 3026 02:11:34,761 --> 02:11:37,230 and our existence deserves dignity and protection, 3027 02:11:37,230 --> 02:11:38,565 not punishment. 3028 02:11:38,565 --> 02:11:41,201 Thank you for your time and I ask you to use compassion, 3029 02:11:41,201 --> 02:11:44,204 courage and humanity in your decision. 3030 02:11:50,043 --> 02:11:50,443 Okay. 3031 02:11:50,443 --> 02:11:51,177 Thank you. 3032 02:11:51,177 --> 02:11:53,013 The time is now 812. 3033 02:11:53,013 --> 02:11:55,648 We'll take a ten minute recess and reconvene at 822. 3034 02:12:06,793 --> 02:19:47,554 The. Opening. 3035 02:20:11,811 --> 02:20:13,713 Oh. Oh. 3036 02:20:13,713 --> 02:20:15,949 Oh, yeah. 3037 02:20:15,949 --> 02:20:18,084 Oh, yeah. 3038 02:20:18,084 --> 02:20:21,087 Oh, yeah. I. 3039 02:20:33,867 --> 02:20:36,202 Oh oh, yeah. 3040 02:20:36,202 --> 02:20:39,205 Oh oh. 3041 02:20:44,044 --> 02:21:01,761 I I. I. 3042 02:21:09,135 --> 02:21:11,237 Oh, yeah, 3043 02:21:11,237 --> 02:21:13,506 oh yeah. 3044 02:21:13,506 --> 02:21:16,509 Oh yeah I. 3045 02:21:29,089 --> 02:21:32,058 Oh oh yeah. Oh. 3046 02:21:52,412 --> 02:21:56,049 I 000 yeah. 3047 02:21:56,783 --> 02:21:59,886 Oh oh yeah oh oh 3048 02:22:00,120 --> 02:22:03,123 yeah I. 3049 02:23:06,252 --> 02:23:07,487 City council meeting. 3050 02:23:07,487 --> 02:23:09,989 Madam clerk, can you please call 3051 02:23:09,989 --> 02:23:12,092 additional public speakers? 3052 02:23:12,092 --> 02:23:13,093 Yes, sir. 3053 02:23:13,093 --> 02:23:17,731 Next five is Maureen Miller, Greg Bearman, 3054 02:23:18,365 --> 02:23:21,401 Ian Henderson, Christy Nielsen, 3055 02:23:21,868 --> 02:23:24,838 Marney Caldwell. 3056 02:23:26,806 --> 02:23:29,809 Ellen. 3057 02:23:30,477 --> 02:23:32,145 I'm going to go ahead and call five more. 3058 02:23:32,145 --> 02:23:33,313 You just come on up. 3059 02:23:33,313 --> 02:23:34,581 Sir, if you could state your name 3060 02:23:34,581 --> 02:23:37,584 and cross roads for the record, please. 3061 02:23:37,617 --> 02:23:39,119 My name is Greg Ehrmann. 3062 02:23:39,119 --> 02:23:42,722 I live in Vermont area, so yes, I'm a resident of district, 3063 02:23:42,956 --> 02:23:45,091 where you see, he's he's he's not here right now. 3064 02:23:45,091 --> 02:23:47,327 We're six. No, it's district six. 3065 02:23:47,327 --> 02:23:49,562 Switch to somewhere else. Okay. 3066 02:23:49,562 --> 02:23:52,565 I'm, have been here for five and a half years. 3067 02:23:52,665 --> 02:23:56,302 I'm a, was a former science instructor for 45 years. 3068 02:23:56,569 --> 02:24:00,106 So I'm used to, doing practice on hands on research. 3069 02:24:00,106 --> 02:24:02,442 So I deal with facts. 3070 02:24:02,442 --> 02:24:03,943 So that's my. 3071 02:24:03,943 --> 02:24:06,613 My lines are things like you. 3072 02:24:06,613 --> 02:24:09,883 If from the research, it says that if you're going to increase 3073 02:24:10,917 --> 02:24:13,920 ice presence at all, you're going to increase the number of, 3074 02:24:14,621 --> 02:24:18,892 convicted felons and criminals in this neighborhood. 3075 02:24:18,892 --> 02:24:20,460 So that's what we're inviting. 3076 02:24:20,460 --> 02:24:23,463 If you're if you're inviting ice at all, 3077 02:24:23,630 --> 02:24:25,699 fact to there's already been mentioned 3078 02:24:25,699 --> 02:24:27,100 property values you're going to drop. 3079 02:24:27,100 --> 02:24:27,567 I heard 3080 02:24:27,567 --> 02:24:30,503 someone said something before, but I've come anywhere from 1 3081 02:24:30,503 --> 02:24:31,905 to 20%. 3082 02:24:31,905 --> 02:24:34,307 So here our property values are going to go down. 3083 02:24:34,307 --> 02:24:36,609 Chris. There goes taxes. 3084 02:24:36,609 --> 02:24:38,878 The safety of schools already been mentioned. 3085 02:24:38,878 --> 02:24:43,650 We already know that, Ice has been known to use, pick up kids 3086 02:24:43,983 --> 02:24:46,986 and use them as bait to bring people out, 3087 02:24:47,520 --> 02:24:49,255 which, again, 3088 02:24:49,255 --> 02:24:52,292 the safety of this community is going into the dumpster. 3089 02:24:52,292 --> 02:24:54,127 In that particular case, 3090 02:24:54,127 --> 02:24:57,130 another fact, you're going to have more people carrying guns. 3091 02:24:57,731 --> 02:24:59,632 And the more guns that are carried, 3092 02:24:59,632 --> 02:25:00,800 the more likelihood that someone's 3093 02:25:00,800 --> 02:25:02,702 going to have an accident. 3094 02:25:02,702 --> 02:25:05,138 So there's, you know, the fear factors of that 3095 02:25:05,138 --> 02:25:05,972 all the way around. 3096 02:25:09,275 --> 02:25:12,145 The economy is going to be suffering. 3097 02:25:12,145 --> 02:25:14,147 Therefore the tax is going to be going up. 3098 02:25:14,147 --> 02:25:16,383 You may some people think it's a great idea 3099 02:25:16,383 --> 02:25:18,151 to have more people come in. 3100 02:25:18,151 --> 02:25:21,154 Well, the Calgary, the quality of the types of people 3101 02:25:21,154 --> 02:25:24,157 that you're going to be attracting are different story. 3102 02:25:24,491 --> 02:25:26,826 Having 1500, 3103 02:25:26,826 --> 02:25:28,762 a 1500 bed facility means you're 3104 02:25:28,762 --> 02:25:31,765 probably going to have somewhere between fact, 1500 3105 02:25:31,765 --> 02:25:37,037 to 3000 Ice agents coming into the facility area. 3106 02:25:37,037 --> 02:25:38,872 Besides, 3107 02:25:38,872 --> 02:25:40,707 can we 3108 02:25:40,707 --> 02:25:41,975 take care of that many people? 3109 02:25:41,975 --> 02:25:44,978 As far as transportation is concerned, 3110 02:25:44,978 --> 02:25:47,647 all the, utilities that you're talking about, 3111 02:25:47,647 --> 02:25:48,815 you just look through your budget 3112 02:25:48,815 --> 02:25:50,850 and said something to the effect of, well, 3113 02:25:50,850 --> 02:25:53,019 we need to work on our roads. Noise. 3114 02:25:53,019 --> 02:25:55,155 Roads are costing more than before. 3115 02:25:55,155 --> 02:25:57,257 How are you going to be able to support the facility with that? 3116 02:25:57,257 --> 02:26:00,193 With the the lack of road, the infrastructure area? 3117 02:26:01,227 --> 02:26:02,429 Sad fact 3118 02:26:02,429 --> 02:26:05,432 that I think you should all realize is that 3119 02:26:05,598 --> 02:26:10,136 the United States has more people in detention facilities 3120 02:26:10,503 --> 02:26:12,238 and in criminal facilities 3121 02:26:12,238 --> 02:26:16,109 than any other percentage than any other country in the world. 3122 02:26:16,643 --> 02:26:18,378 When is that going to turn around? 3123 02:26:18,378 --> 02:26:21,815 When we stop spending money on criminal facilities 3124 02:26:22,215 --> 02:26:25,118 and put it towards more social activities, 3125 02:26:25,118 --> 02:26:28,121 social events, which you would you were, you know, 3126 02:26:28,154 --> 02:26:31,591 presenting early on that I good luck. 3127 02:26:32,258 --> 02:26:35,261 Thank you sir. 3128 02:26:39,132 --> 02:26:41,401 Good evening ma'am. 3129 02:26:41,401 --> 02:26:44,904 Mayor, city council I'm Christy Nielsen. 3130 02:26:44,904 --> 02:26:48,975 I live in district two and I've lived in surprise 3131 02:26:48,975 --> 02:26:52,679 for 28 years and love my community. 3132 02:26:52,679 --> 02:26:55,882 But we do not want an Ice detention center. 3133 02:26:55,882 --> 02:26:58,885 And surprise, there are neighborhoods, 3134 02:26:59,085 --> 02:27:02,088 schools, shops and businesses. 3135 02:27:02,789 --> 02:27:05,492 It is a warehouse 3136 02:27:05,492 --> 02:27:08,495 meant to be for merchandise, not humans. 3137 02:27:09,129 --> 02:27:12,232 Ice does not follow due process 3138 02:27:12,699 --> 02:27:16,703 and that's something under the Constitution we're all 3139 02:27:16,903 --> 02:27:19,272 supposed to be granted. 3140 02:27:19,272 --> 02:27:22,042 And so they're arrested. 3141 02:27:22,042 --> 02:27:23,777 They don't have to, 3142 02:27:25,378 --> 02:27:28,481 have a warrant to go into people's houses 3143 02:27:28,481 --> 02:27:31,484 and take parents away from their children. 3144 02:27:33,086 --> 02:27:34,521 I did not seek out 3145 02:27:34,521 --> 02:27:37,524 the proper permits from our city for this. 3146 02:27:37,524 --> 02:27:41,161 We especially do not want masked Ice agents 3147 02:27:41,628 --> 02:27:45,298 having rounded up victims in and out of our city, 3148 02:27:45,298 --> 02:27:49,369 frightening our residents and especially our children. 3149 02:27:49,736 --> 02:27:52,072 And that's all I have to say. 3150 02:27:52,072 --> 02:27:53,873 Thank you. 3151 02:27:53,873 --> 02:27:56,142 Thank you ma'am. 3152 02:27:56,142 --> 02:27:57,877 Thank you, Madam clerk, 3153 02:27:57,877 --> 02:28:00,880 can you call a few more speakers, please? 3154 02:28:01,014 --> 02:28:01,581 Yes, mayor. 3155 02:28:01,581 --> 02:28:05,952 The next five, Janet Amini's David Kwan Smith? 3156 02:28:06,586 --> 02:28:09,622 Nicholas asked, making up a list. 3157 02:28:09,622 --> 02:28:13,326 I'm sorry if I butchered that Cynthia fuck and more. 3158 02:28:13,493 --> 02:28:16,196 Angelina Torres. 3159 02:28:16,196 --> 02:28:17,464 Good evening ma'am. 3160 02:28:17,464 --> 02:28:20,166 Hello, my name is Maureen Miller 3161 02:28:20,166 --> 02:28:23,169 and I live in Desert Oasis. 3162 02:28:23,937 --> 02:28:25,138 Boy, I have a lot to say. 3163 02:28:25,138 --> 02:28:29,376 As I was leading up to this, event, I was thinking to myself, 3164 02:28:29,909 --> 02:28:33,113 I have so much that I want to say, so much that I need to say, 3165 02:28:33,480 --> 02:28:35,181 and three minutes isn't enough time. 3166 02:28:36,182 --> 02:28:38,518 The other thing I'd like to say, so many of my friends here 3167 02:28:38,518 --> 02:28:40,920 tonight have been so eloquent on what they want to say, 3168 02:28:40,920 --> 02:28:43,923 and I can't possibly compete with them, but I, in good 3169 02:28:43,923 --> 02:28:46,926 faith, cannot sit back and not say my $0.02. 3170 02:28:47,894 --> 02:28:49,029 First thing I want to let you know 3171 02:28:49,029 --> 02:28:50,597 is that I've recently retired, 3172 02:28:50,597 --> 02:28:52,432 and I did not expect that I would need to spend 3173 02:28:52,432 --> 02:28:55,435 so much time standing up for common decency. 3174 02:28:55,668 --> 02:28:57,237 I am fortunate to have extra time 3175 02:28:57,237 --> 02:29:00,273 moving forward, to continue to do so against hateful policies. 3176 02:29:01,141 --> 02:29:03,610 I was so disappointed when I learned about the recent 3177 02:29:03,610 --> 02:29:06,413 DHS building purchase and surprise. 3178 02:29:06,413 --> 02:29:08,948 Over the last couple of days, I learned of other communities 3179 02:29:08,948 --> 02:29:10,250 who are pushing back 3180 02:29:10,250 --> 02:29:13,586 and passing ordinances in order to reject Ice facilities. 3181 02:29:14,120 --> 02:29:15,689 I expected to learn that surprise 3182 02:29:15,689 --> 02:29:18,692 would be mentioned as a resistor to an Ice prison, 3183 02:29:18,825 --> 02:29:20,794 but that has not been the case. 3184 02:29:20,794 --> 02:29:21,394 Not yet. 3185 02:29:22,829 --> 02:29:24,798 We must show that we have learned from our country's 3186 02:29:24,798 --> 02:29:26,099 history. 3187 02:29:26,099 --> 02:29:29,169 Portions of our history are ugly, and we cannot rewrite it. 3188 02:29:29,669 --> 02:29:32,672 But we can show that we learn from it and continue to learn. 3189 02:29:32,772 --> 02:29:35,642 We must pay attention. 3190 02:29:35,642 --> 02:29:37,711 Building an Ice concentration camp is in 3191 02:29:37,711 --> 02:29:41,548 no way, in no way, will protect us. 3192 02:29:41,781 --> 02:29:45,085 Our friends, neighbors, and fellow humans. 3193 02:29:45,552 --> 02:29:48,555 No ice and no ice camps. 3194 02:29:48,922 --> 02:29:51,925 If we do not stand up, we lose bragging rights. 3195 02:29:51,925 --> 02:29:54,327 And what a great city this is. 3196 02:29:54,327 --> 02:29:55,328 The last thing that I wanted 3197 02:29:55,328 --> 02:29:57,163 to point out that I found kind of ironic 3198 02:29:57,163 --> 02:29:59,399 is the name of this building in question 3199 02:29:59,399 --> 02:30:02,369 is the Surprise Point Commerce Center. 3200 02:30:02,402 --> 02:30:03,570 If we take this on, 3201 02:30:03,570 --> 02:30:07,307 we are in the commerce of having illegal facilities. 3202 02:30:07,841 --> 02:30:08,341 Thank you. 3203 02:30:12,445 --> 02:30:14,814 Thank you ma'am. 3204 02:30:14,814 --> 02:30:17,817 Any sir. 3205 02:30:19,319 --> 02:30:21,021 Hello, my name is Ian Henderson. 3206 02:30:21,021 --> 02:30:21,254 I'm here 3207 02:30:21,254 --> 02:30:22,422 to speak about the warehouse recently 3208 02:30:22,422 --> 02:30:25,425 purchased by DHS to be turned into a concentration camp. 3209 02:30:25,458 --> 02:30:28,194 As far as I understood prior to this evening, which you. 3210 02:30:28,194 --> 02:30:29,729 One of you confirmed? 3211 02:30:29,729 --> 02:30:31,164 The city has no ability to stop 3212 02:30:31,164 --> 02:30:33,233 such a purchase by the federal government. 3213 02:30:33,233 --> 02:30:34,634 And even if you did have the ability, 3214 02:30:34,634 --> 02:30:36,936 and I don't believe you would do anything if you could. 3215 02:30:36,936 --> 02:30:38,905 So I'm here to tell people what they can do. 3216 02:30:38,905 --> 02:30:41,908 And I'm sure everybody who's listening and would agree, 3217 02:30:42,042 --> 02:30:45,045 you guys all love jury duty, right? 3218 02:30:45,412 --> 02:30:48,248 But did you know that as a member of a trial jury, 3219 02:30:48,248 --> 02:30:50,617 you are not required to give a guilty verdict? 3220 02:30:50,617 --> 02:30:53,253 Even if prosecutors have proven without a reason 3221 02:30:53,253 --> 02:30:55,889 within reasonable doubt that a person is guilty. 3222 02:30:55,889 --> 02:30:57,991 This is called a jury nullification. 3223 02:30:57,991 --> 02:31:01,461 We have the power to render a not guilty verdict in defiance. 3224 02:31:01,961 --> 02:31:04,264 Here's a hypothetical to help everybody understand 3225 02:31:04,264 --> 02:31:07,100 if a hypothetical warehouse were to be hypothetically 3226 02:31:07,100 --> 02:31:11,037 burned down in order to stop a hypothetical concentration 3227 02:31:11,037 --> 02:31:12,939 camp from being built, hypothetically, 3228 02:31:14,274 --> 02:31:14,708 and the 3229 02:31:14,708 --> 02:31:18,044 alleged person was hypothetically caught. 3230 02:31:18,044 --> 02:31:20,647 The arson is a journey edification. 3231 02:31:20,647 --> 02:31:23,850 We as that we, as a jury in a criminal trial 3232 02:31:23,850 --> 02:31:27,253 can declare the hypothetical as arson is innocent 3233 02:31:27,654 --> 02:31:30,657 regardless of evidence that would be sent free. 3234 02:31:31,124 --> 02:31:34,060 Nobody could be recharged again due to deputy laws. 3235 02:31:34,060 --> 02:31:35,862 And jurors cannot be punished for this. 3236 02:31:35,862 --> 02:31:37,697 We have a responsibility to defend 3237 02:31:37,697 --> 02:31:40,266 any hypothetical person in this way, 3238 02:31:40,266 --> 02:31:41,534 because why would anybody allow 3239 02:31:41,534 --> 02:31:43,269 a concentration camp to be built? 3240 02:31:43,269 --> 02:31:44,137 And why would anybody 3241 02:31:44,137 --> 02:31:47,140 allow a hypothetical hero to be punished for this? 3242 02:31:47,374 --> 02:31:49,275 People are being violated 3243 02:31:49,275 --> 02:31:52,145 with their first, fourth and Fifth Amendment rights. 3244 02:31:52,145 --> 02:31:53,780 Ice guards are murdering detainees. 3245 02:31:53,780 --> 02:31:56,282 There have been tens of thousands of reported rapes 3246 02:31:56,282 --> 02:31:58,918 at the hands of Ice guards, let alone the unreported. 3247 02:31:58,918 --> 02:32:01,121 And the concentration camp in Pennsylvania 3248 02:32:01,121 --> 02:32:03,189 just recently argued in court last month 3249 02:32:03,189 --> 02:32:06,659 that their guards are not liable for the rapes they commit. 3250 02:32:06,926 --> 02:32:08,762 This cannot be allowed. 3251 02:32:08,762 --> 02:32:10,830 I do have some time left. 3252 02:32:10,830 --> 02:32:13,800 I want to use this remaining time to say that the same 3253 02:32:13,800 --> 02:32:17,637 tactics and methods of terror and eye tracking 3254 02:32:17,637 --> 02:32:21,007 that Ice and DHS are using were all perfected in Palestine. 3255 02:32:21,508 --> 02:32:22,742 Elise. Ice. 3256 02:32:22,742 --> 02:32:25,745 They were all trained with the terrorist, genocidal 3257 02:32:25,745 --> 02:32:27,480 ethno colony known as Israel. 3258 02:32:27,480 --> 02:32:29,249 And all of these tactics and technologies 3259 02:32:29,249 --> 02:32:30,884 are coming back to be used on us 3260 02:32:30,884 --> 02:32:33,053 and what is called the Imperial boomerang. 3261 02:32:33,053 --> 02:32:35,889 This is why a free Palestine is intrinsically linked 3262 02:32:35,889 --> 02:32:37,557 to our struggles here today. 3263 02:32:37,557 --> 02:32:39,359 Because unless we stop the atrocities 3264 02:32:39,359 --> 02:32:42,362 the US empire is committing in Palestine, we, 3265 02:32:43,163 --> 02:32:46,733 Well, well, we also need to end the U.S. 3266 02:32:46,733 --> 02:32:50,036 bipartisan policy of not a violent colonial imperialism. 3267 02:32:51,571 --> 02:32:54,240 Because no one will be set free until Palestine is free, 3268 02:32:54,240 --> 02:32:57,243 until the Congo is free, until Sudan is free. 3269 02:32:57,243 --> 02:32:59,479 Power to the working class. 3270 02:32:59,479 --> 02:33:02,482 Fuck ice and fuck fuck Israel. 3271 02:33:07,587 --> 02:33:07,954 Before 3272 02:33:07,954 --> 02:33:10,957 you start me, I'm going to call five more names, please. 3273 02:33:11,324 --> 02:33:12,792 Good evening councilmembers. 3274 02:33:12,792 --> 02:33:14,494 My name is Janet Jimenez. 3275 02:33:14,494 --> 02:33:15,395 I speak today 3276 02:33:15,395 --> 02:33:17,664 as a proud daughter of hard working immigrants 3277 02:33:17,664 --> 02:33:20,233 and as an esteemed member of this community, 3278 02:33:20,233 --> 02:33:22,402 it is disheartening that the first time 3279 02:33:22,402 --> 02:33:24,237 our small town makes national news, 3280 02:33:24,237 --> 02:33:25,772 it is not for who we are, 3281 02:33:25,772 --> 02:33:26,473 but for something 3282 02:33:26,473 --> 02:33:29,476 that threatens the dignity and safety of our own people. 3283 02:33:29,743 --> 02:33:31,678 Immigrants are not numbers to tally. 3284 02:33:31,678 --> 02:33:34,647 We are human beings with histories, families and dreams. 3285 02:33:34,714 --> 02:33:35,582 We contribute, 3286 02:33:35,582 --> 02:33:38,985 we work relentlessly and we belong with the approval 3287 02:33:38,985 --> 02:33:41,421 for a new Ice detention center in surprise, 3288 02:33:41,421 --> 02:33:43,957 what we have seen unfold across the country, 3289 02:33:43,957 --> 02:33:47,227 what once felt distant, has now knocked on the door of the city 3290 02:33:47,227 --> 02:33:48,361 I call home. 3291 02:33:48,361 --> 02:33:51,097 The dehumanizing treatment of immigrants, detention 3292 02:33:51,097 --> 02:33:52,565 without due process. 3293 02:33:52,565 --> 02:33:55,068 Discrimination based solely on the color of one's 3294 02:33:55,068 --> 02:33:57,771 skin is coming to a neighborhood near you. 3295 02:33:57,771 --> 02:33:59,205 Surprise is the only home 3296 02:33:59,205 --> 02:34:01,207 I have ever known it is where I learned 3297 02:34:01,207 --> 02:34:04,477 the meaning of community, of peace, of belonging. 3298 02:34:04,678 --> 02:34:07,914 It is where my family planted roots and now families 3299 02:34:07,914 --> 02:34:11,685 are being asked to wonder, will this city still feel safe? 3300 02:34:11,685 --> 02:34:13,887 For people who look like me? 3301 02:34:13,887 --> 02:34:16,322 A detention center does not just change a building, 3302 02:34:16,322 --> 02:34:18,058 it changes the soul of a city. 3303 02:34:18,058 --> 02:34:20,360 It alters the rhythm of neighborhoods, 3304 02:34:20,360 --> 02:34:23,663 the laughter in playgrounds, the confidence of children 3305 02:34:24,264 --> 02:34:25,532 walking to school. 3306 02:34:25,532 --> 02:34:28,568 It turns familiarity into fear, neighbors 3307 02:34:28,568 --> 02:34:31,571 into strangers, safety into uncertainty. 3308 02:34:31,738 --> 02:34:33,840 Our community deserves more than statements 3309 02:34:33,840 --> 02:34:35,608 that protect the city's liability. 3310 02:34:35,608 --> 02:34:37,010 We deserve action. 3311 02:34:37,010 --> 02:34:38,645 We deserve accountability. 3312 02:34:38,645 --> 02:34:39,879 What concrete steps 3313 02:34:39,879 --> 02:34:42,882 will be taken to ensure that residents are not profiled, 3314 02:34:43,016 --> 02:34:46,019 targeted, or made to feel unsafe in their own homes? 3315 02:34:46,186 --> 02:34:48,888 Transparency after the fact is not enough. 3316 02:34:48,888 --> 02:34:50,557 Silence is not enough. 3317 02:34:50,557 --> 02:34:52,559 We need real commitments, commitments 3318 02:34:52,559 --> 02:34:53,660 that protect the dignity 3319 02:34:53,660 --> 02:34:56,496 and safety of the people who call surprise home. 3320 02:34:56,496 --> 02:34:58,898 Our neighbors, our friends, our families. 3321 02:34:58,898 --> 02:35:01,167 The heart of this city is in its people. 3322 02:35:01,167 --> 02:35:04,504 We cannot let silence and blind compliance decide who belongs. 3323 02:35:04,738 --> 02:35:06,072 Thank you. Thank you. 3324 02:35:09,943 --> 02:35:11,878 Ma'am, before you start, I'm going to call a few more names. 3325 02:35:11,878 --> 02:35:13,713 Okay. 3326 02:35:13,713 --> 02:35:16,349 Next I have Tina mollica, 3327 02:35:16,349 --> 02:35:19,652 Milton Moreau, Christina Unter, 3328 02:35:20,186 --> 02:35:22,822 Rosalind Melling, Dorota, 3329 02:35:22,822 --> 02:35:25,825 Alyssa Eastview. 3330 02:35:26,159 --> 02:35:27,994 Good evening ma'am. 3331 02:35:27,994 --> 02:35:30,997 Good evening, mayor and council members. 3332 02:35:31,398 --> 02:35:34,768 I don't have my glasses, so I'm going to have to hold this one. 3333 02:35:35,201 --> 02:35:38,071 I can alone you. So. Yeah, yeah. 3334 02:35:38,071 --> 02:35:38,972 Thank you. 3335 02:35:38,972 --> 02:35:42,575 My name is Cynthia Fox and I'm a resident of surprise. 3336 02:35:43,143 --> 02:35:47,547 I stand here tonight speaking from a place of deep 3337 02:35:47,814 --> 02:35:50,150 moral alarm. 3338 02:35:50,150 --> 02:35:53,486 We understand that this council cannot overrule ISIS 3339 02:35:53,486 --> 02:35:54,688 federal authority. 3340 02:35:54,688 --> 02:35:57,691 We're not asking you to do what you legally cannot do. 3341 02:35:58,291 --> 02:36:02,495 But what you can do and what you must do is refuse 3342 02:36:02,495 --> 02:36:06,733 silence, refuse complicity, and refuse to look away. 3343 02:36:07,801 --> 02:36:11,337 The Department of Homeland Security quiet, quietly 3344 02:36:11,538 --> 02:36:16,343 purchased property in our city to build the 1500 person 3345 02:36:16,343 --> 02:36:17,310 detention center. 3346 02:36:17,310 --> 02:36:20,013 And neither the council nor the people who live here 3347 02:36:20,013 --> 02:36:21,581 knew about it. 3348 02:36:21,581 --> 02:36:23,583 Just over a week ago. 3349 02:36:23,583 --> 02:36:27,854 That should stop every one of us cold. 3350 02:36:29,122 --> 02:36:29,789 Because this 3351 02:36:29,789 --> 02:36:32,792 is not just another development project. 3352 02:36:32,926 --> 02:36:34,828 This is not a warehouse. 3353 02:36:34,828 --> 02:36:36,730 This is not housing. 3354 02:36:36,730 --> 02:36:39,866 This is a place where human beings will be confined. 3355 02:36:40,467 --> 02:36:43,002 We've all seen reports coming out of Florida. 3356 02:36:43,002 --> 02:36:46,806 People held in overcrowded, degrading conditions, 3357 02:36:47,307 --> 02:36:50,076 people denied basic medical care, 3358 02:36:50,076 --> 02:36:54,714 including the current outbreak of measles. 3359 02:36:55,348 --> 02:36:57,917 Families torn apart. Arrests 3360 02:36:57,917 --> 02:37:00,954 carried out with brutality that shocks the conscience. 3361 02:37:01,721 --> 02:37:04,457 These are not abstract policy debates. 3362 02:37:04,457 --> 02:37:05,759 These are real 3363 02:37:05,759 --> 02:37:09,229 human experiences, and they're happening right now. 3364 02:37:09,796 --> 02:37:14,134 And now our community is being asked without warning, 3365 02:37:14,401 --> 02:37:17,137 without consent, to host 3366 02:37:17,137 --> 02:37:20,140 the next chapter of that story. 3367 02:37:20,407 --> 02:37:23,810 Whether someone supports strict immigration enforcement or not, 3368 02:37:23,843 --> 02:37:25,378 there must be a line. 3369 02:37:25,378 --> 02:37:28,581 There must be a point where we say this 3370 02:37:28,748 --> 02:37:31,751 violates our shared humanity. 3371 02:37:32,218 --> 02:37:34,621 Human dignity is not partizan. 3372 02:37:34,621 --> 02:37:38,591 Decency is not radical, and morality does not stop 3373 02:37:38,591 --> 02:37:41,695 at jurisdictional boundaries. 3374 02:37:42,529 --> 02:37:46,132 If our city becomes home to a facility like this, then 3375 02:37:46,132 --> 02:37:49,669 our city's name becomes attached to what happens inside it. 3376 02:37:49,969 --> 02:37:53,606 We cannot say it's not our responsibility. 3377 02:37:54,507 --> 02:37:57,344 You may not control Ice, but you do control 3378 02:37:57,344 --> 02:37:59,979 whether this city stands up and says. 3379 02:37:59,979 --> 02:38:03,683 It says not without scrutiny, not without accountability. 3380 02:38:05,385 --> 02:38:06,019 Said it. 3381 02:38:06,019 --> 02:38:09,022 Oh, not without 3382 02:38:09,055 --> 02:38:10,590 our voices being heard. 3383 02:38:10,590 --> 02:38:13,760 We are asking you to speak publicly 3384 02:38:13,760 --> 02:38:17,597 and clearly against inhumane detention practices. 3385 02:38:17,630 --> 02:38:21,568 I demand transparency from Ice and federal partners, 3386 02:38:21,768 --> 02:38:26,539 use every lawful tool available to slow, review 3387 02:38:26,539 --> 02:38:29,843 and challenge this project, and most importantly, 3388 02:38:30,377 --> 02:38:33,546 to stand on the side of human dignity. 3389 02:38:39,119 --> 02:38:41,788 Thank you ma'am. 3390 02:38:41,788 --> 02:38:44,791 Good evening. 3391 02:38:46,659 --> 02:38:46,926 Hello. 3392 02:38:46,926 --> 02:38:49,195 My name is David Klingon Smith. 3393 02:38:49,195 --> 02:38:53,233 I've lived here in surprise for, five years now, 3394 02:38:53,800 --> 02:38:57,871 and I'm here to express my serious concerns as well 3395 02:38:58,171 --> 02:39:02,375 about the this Department of Homeland Security occupying a 3396 02:39:02,675 --> 02:39:05,679 this massive warehouse facility down on Sweetwater Avenue. 3397 02:39:06,379 --> 02:39:09,749 Surprise prides itself on being a desirable 3398 02:39:09,749 --> 02:39:10,884 residential community 3399 02:39:10,884 --> 02:39:14,120 built around families and schools and churches 3400 02:39:14,120 --> 02:39:17,424 and small businesses and long term neighborhood investment 3401 02:39:17,924 --> 02:39:21,061 and a large DHS operational presence, 3402 02:39:21,561 --> 02:39:24,898 especially one housed in a warehouse like this, is 3403 02:39:24,898 --> 02:39:27,867 fundamentally incompatible with the character, 3404 02:39:27,901 --> 02:39:29,069 the planning priorities, 3405 02:39:29,069 --> 02:39:31,004 and the expectations of this community. 3406 02:39:32,272 --> 02:39:34,874 I share many of the other speakers concerns 3407 02:39:34,874 --> 02:39:37,877 about the the total lack of transparency. 3408 02:39:38,945 --> 02:39:40,847 From DHS 3409 02:39:40,847 --> 02:39:43,850 in the whole purchase of this building. 3410 02:39:43,950 --> 02:39:47,153 And, I agree with the other speakers that, 3411 02:39:47,687 --> 02:39:50,390 I would encourage you to do everything 3412 02:39:50,390 --> 02:39:53,693 possible to to have as much oversight 3413 02:39:53,727 --> 02:39:56,730 of this facility as this is possible. 3414 02:39:56,930 --> 02:39:59,299 I share the concerns about, 3415 02:39:59,299 --> 02:40:01,968 safety and traffic and infrastructure issues 3416 02:40:01,968 --> 02:40:04,971 that many other folks have mentioned. 3417 02:40:05,071 --> 02:40:07,874 I think that Ice has proved in many ways 3418 02:40:07,874 --> 02:40:10,877 that it is an out of control organization. 3419 02:40:11,244 --> 02:40:14,180 And I think a DHS facility of this scale, 3420 02:40:14,180 --> 02:40:17,183 in addition to bringing things like vehicle traffic, 3421 02:40:17,917 --> 02:40:20,920 has also concerns of things like, 3422 02:40:21,354 --> 02:40:24,357 security, perimeter surveillance activity, 3423 02:40:24,657 --> 02:40:26,826 and all kinds of other operational risks 3424 02:40:26,826 --> 02:40:31,664 that were never meant to be part of a zoning, 3425 02:40:32,399 --> 02:40:35,235 intent for that particular area. 3426 02:40:35,235 --> 02:40:36,169 And I think that, 3427 02:40:36,169 --> 02:40:37,003 as other speakers 3428 02:40:37,003 --> 02:40:40,240 have mentioned, that our roads and utilities and emergency 3429 02:40:40,240 --> 02:40:44,878 services were not designed to support a facility like this. 3430 02:40:48,448 --> 02:40:49,215 So I'm going to 3431 02:40:49,215 --> 02:40:53,153 kind of just say that I agree with many of the other speakers. 3432 02:40:53,153 --> 02:40:57,323 And I want to add, though, at the end here, that, I'm also a, 3433 02:40:58,191 --> 02:41:00,527 Christian clergy person, 3434 02:41:00,527 --> 02:41:03,430 minister in the United Church of Christ denomination. 3435 02:41:03,430 --> 02:41:07,834 And I would remind all who claim to be followers of Jesus 3436 02:41:07,834 --> 02:41:12,138 that the actions taken by Ice are incompatible 3437 02:41:12,138 --> 02:41:14,040 with Jesus teachings, 3438 02:41:14,040 --> 02:41:15,909 that we are to love our neighbor 3439 02:41:15,909 --> 02:41:18,511 and the immigrant is our neighbor. 3440 02:41:18,511 --> 02:41:19,112 And Scripture 3441 02:41:19,112 --> 02:41:22,749 tells us to treat the immigrant as one of our own. And, 3442 02:41:23,917 --> 02:41:26,920 I'm one of those people that also believes that that, 3443 02:41:27,487 --> 02:41:30,423 unless you're a Native American here, 3444 02:41:30,423 --> 02:41:32,425 we're all immigrants. 3445 02:41:32,425 --> 02:41:34,094 So I will just end with that. 3446 02:41:34,094 --> 02:41:37,097 Thank you. 3447 02:41:40,066 --> 02:41:40,800 Thank you. Sir. 3448 02:41:40,800 --> 02:41:42,135 I'm going to call a few more names. 3449 02:41:43,336 --> 02:41:45,338 Elaine Burke. 3450 02:41:45,338 --> 02:41:48,174 Zach m Nolan, 3451 02:41:48,174 --> 02:41:52,946 Christian Gutierrez, Zane Gordon, Sophie borowski. 3452 02:41:53,646 --> 02:41:54,814 Thank you. 3453 02:41:54,814 --> 02:41:55,548 Good evening, ma'am. 3454 02:41:55,548 --> 02:41:57,117 Good evening. Mayor, councilmen. 3455 02:41:57,117 --> 02:41:58,451 My name is Tina mollica. 3456 02:41:58,451 --> 02:42:01,087 I'm a 25 year resident of surprise. 3457 02:42:01,087 --> 02:42:04,257 My husband and I have raised two children in this city. 3458 02:42:05,025 --> 02:42:08,028 One a district graduate, one still in school. 3459 02:42:08,128 --> 02:42:10,797 I live in Marley Park. I've lived there for nine years. 3460 02:42:10,797 --> 02:42:13,066 Mr. judge, you are my councilman. Hello. 3461 02:42:13,066 --> 02:42:17,437 My home is 2.8 miles from this warehouse. 3462 02:42:18,138 --> 02:42:21,107 There are many parks where children live 3463 02:42:21,107 --> 02:42:25,245 and nine schools within three miles of this warehouse. 3464 02:42:25,812 --> 02:42:28,948 A high school, a middle school, and five elementary schools. 3465 02:42:29,549 --> 02:42:32,519 All of them are title one schools 3466 02:42:32,919 --> 02:42:36,489 who serve our minority and low income communities. 3467 02:42:36,890 --> 02:42:39,893 This location is not a coincidence. 3468 02:42:41,127 --> 02:42:43,496 Ice agents have been kidnaping children, 3469 02:42:43,496 --> 02:42:46,499 families, even off duty police officers. 3470 02:42:46,666 --> 02:42:49,035 I'm holding one of them in front of you right now. 3471 02:42:49,035 --> 02:42:50,970 A five year old boy, Liam Ramos. 3472 02:42:52,105 --> 02:42:52,906 This facility 3473 02:42:52,906 --> 02:42:55,909 puts our citizens, our children, at risk of violence. 3474 02:42:55,942 --> 02:42:57,977 It will put a strain on our police department 3475 02:42:57,977 --> 02:43:00,080 and our emergency response teams. 3476 02:43:00,080 --> 02:43:01,948 Lower our property values 3477 02:43:01,948 --> 02:43:04,951 and strain our water and sewage systems. 3478 02:43:05,185 --> 02:43:08,822 Experience shows that they are not arresting violent criminals. 3479 02:43:09,155 --> 02:43:10,690 But as someone else mentioned, 3480 02:43:10,690 --> 02:43:13,693 even if they were, why would we want that here? 3481 02:43:14,160 --> 02:43:17,530 This community deserves transparency and action. 3482 02:43:17,997 --> 02:43:21,801 Other communities like Salt Lake City, Oklahoma City, San 3483 02:43:21,801 --> 02:43:26,139 Antonio, Kansas City were able to stop such sales to DHS. 3484 02:43:27,273 --> 02:43:30,076 Somehow, no one in this city knew 3485 02:43:30,076 --> 02:43:33,079 anything was happening. 3486 02:43:33,213 --> 02:43:34,814 What is the plan 3487 02:43:34,814 --> 02:43:37,917 now to protect our neighborhoods and our schools? 3488 02:43:37,917 --> 02:43:39,719 When I come, because they're coming 3489 02:43:39,719 --> 02:43:42,689 and we've seen what they do. 3490 02:43:43,857 --> 02:43:46,793 We've seen them take children and parents from pick up lines. 3491 02:43:46,793 --> 02:43:48,695 I've already signed up to get training 3492 02:43:48,695 --> 02:43:50,397 so that I can watch and record 3493 02:43:50,397 --> 02:43:50,663 when they 3494 02:43:50,663 --> 02:43:53,666 start taking our children, because that's my sign 3495 02:43:53,666 --> 02:43:56,936 says without due process, it's kidnaping. 3496 02:43:59,272 --> 02:44:00,573 Councilman Judd, I'm going to 3497 02:44:00,573 --> 02:44:03,610 implore you that leaders do not say our hands are tied. 3498 02:44:04,611 --> 02:44:07,614 I'm asking all of you to untie your hands. 3499 02:44:07,681 --> 02:44:09,983 Leaders work with their community members. 3500 02:44:09,983 --> 02:44:12,419 The businesses, their police, 3501 02:44:12,419 --> 02:44:15,689 their school districts, the people in this room. 3502 02:44:16,156 --> 02:44:19,125 We work together, and we find something to do 3503 02:44:19,125 --> 02:44:22,128 to protect our children and our community members. 3504 02:44:22,662 --> 02:44:26,966 The government cannot force municipalities, municipalities. 3505 02:44:26,966 --> 02:44:27,801 Excuse me. 3506 02:44:27,801 --> 02:44:29,436 To build roads and utilities. 3507 02:44:29,436 --> 02:44:30,537 Construction permits 3508 02:44:30,537 --> 02:44:33,973 will be required for toilets, showers, dining facilities. 3509 02:44:34,541 --> 02:44:37,777 So what you can do is refuse to partner with or fund private 3510 02:44:37,777 --> 02:44:40,046 detention operators through city contracts. 3511 02:44:40,046 --> 02:44:42,816 You can demand environmental traffic, public safety 3512 02:44:42,816 --> 02:44:45,185 and infrastructure impact reviews. 3513 02:44:45,185 --> 02:44:48,121 You can require transparency about how this facility 3514 02:44:48,121 --> 02:44:50,590 will operate and affect our community. 3515 02:44:50,590 --> 02:44:51,524 To ever occur to you 3516 02:44:51,524 --> 02:44:53,393 and to everyone in the room, I ask that 3517 02:44:53,393 --> 02:44:55,595 we do not let this end tonight. 3518 02:44:55,595 --> 02:44:57,964 I ask that we work together, 3519 02:44:57,964 --> 02:45:00,567 contact our senators, our representatives, 3520 02:45:00,567 --> 02:45:04,237 our attorney general, whoever we need, and we are asking 3521 02:45:04,237 --> 02:45:05,605 for you to do it with us. 3522 02:45:12,479 --> 02:45:15,248 Thank you ma'am. 3523 02:45:15,248 --> 02:45:18,251 Good evening. 3524 02:45:19,786 --> 02:45:22,789 This is. 3525 02:45:22,922 --> 02:45:25,725 Good evening mayor Council. 3526 02:45:25,725 --> 02:45:27,160 Good evening, mayor and council. 3527 02:45:27,160 --> 02:45:28,661 My name is Alyssa Maria 3528 02:45:28,661 --> 02:45:31,664 and I was born here in Arizona and raised in surprise. 3529 02:45:31,765 --> 02:45:33,566 I grew up in the original town site. 3530 02:45:33,566 --> 02:45:37,137 I've been here for 36 years, and my family has deep roots 3531 02:45:37,137 --> 02:45:39,939 here, not only in surprise, but also in Mirage, 3532 02:45:39,939 --> 02:45:40,907 where my grandparents 3533 02:45:40,907 --> 02:45:43,710 have lived in both cities for over 60 years. 3534 02:45:43,710 --> 02:45:46,413 I am a true local I, and I'm proud 3535 02:45:46,413 --> 02:45:48,515 to say I'm a native of surprise from before. 3536 02:45:48,515 --> 02:45:50,684 Surprise even became a city. 3537 02:45:50,684 --> 02:45:53,987 I am a third generation resident whose family has grown 3538 02:45:53,987 --> 02:45:56,990 here, worked here, and invested in this community for decades. 3539 02:45:57,424 --> 02:46:00,026 Both my father and my stepmother, Christy, who 3540 02:46:00,026 --> 02:46:01,494 some of you know well, 3541 02:46:01,494 --> 02:46:04,698 dedicated over 20 years of service to the City of Surprise 3542 02:46:05,098 --> 02:46:08,268 and retired after a lifetime of public service. 3543 02:46:08,635 --> 02:46:10,570 I also work for the City of Surprise 3544 02:46:10,570 --> 02:46:12,138 as a resource specialist 3545 02:46:12,138 --> 02:46:14,541 and a case manager, supporting vulnerable 3546 02:46:14,541 --> 02:46:17,277 individuals and families within our community. 3547 02:46:17,277 --> 02:46:19,479 I know well what the city stands for, 3548 02:46:19,479 --> 02:46:22,349 and this city is known for its diversity. 3549 02:46:22,349 --> 02:46:24,851 Growing up, I remember surprise when it was full of fields, 3550 02:46:24,851 --> 02:46:26,453 orchards and farmland. 3551 02:46:26,453 --> 02:46:29,055 I remember driving by and seeing Hispanic families 3552 02:46:29,055 --> 02:46:31,057 and immigrants working hard in those fields, 3553 02:46:31,057 --> 02:46:32,959 helping put food on our tables, 3554 02:46:32,959 --> 02:46:35,862 supporting the economy and contributing to the culture 3555 02:46:35,862 --> 02:46:36,896 of this area. 3556 02:46:36,896 --> 02:46:38,631 The Hispanic community has always 3557 02:46:38,631 --> 02:46:40,433 been a huge part of surprise in our marriage, 3558 02:46:40,433 --> 02:46:41,668 and it is impossible 3559 02:46:41,668 --> 02:46:44,003 to separate the success of this region 3560 02:46:44,003 --> 02:46:46,272 from the contributions of immigrants. 3561 02:46:46,272 --> 02:46:47,941 This is where we went to school. 3562 02:46:47,941 --> 02:46:49,576 This is where we played sports. 3563 02:46:49,576 --> 02:46:51,177 This is where we were raised 3564 02:46:51,177 --> 02:46:53,780 and where we are now raising our children. 3565 02:46:53,780 --> 02:46:56,149 Today, surprise is no longer a small town. 3566 02:46:56,149 --> 02:46:57,851 It's a growing city. 3567 02:46:57,851 --> 02:47:00,253 But with the decision to bring a detention center 3568 02:47:00,253 --> 02:47:02,856 into our community right in our backyard 3569 02:47:02,856 --> 02:47:04,924 on the borderline of El Mirage, 3570 02:47:04,924 --> 02:47:07,761 many families who live here are now living in fear. 3571 02:47:07,761 --> 02:47:09,095 There are children who go to school 3572 02:47:09,095 --> 02:47:11,698 with my children, who are scared to attend class 3573 02:47:11,698 --> 02:47:13,133 because they don't know if their parents 3574 02:47:13,133 --> 02:47:15,602 will still be home at the end of the day. 3575 02:47:15,602 --> 02:47:17,337 Parents are afraid to go to work. 3576 02:47:17,337 --> 02:47:20,340 Families are afraid to shop for groceries, attend church, 3577 02:47:20,473 --> 02:47:23,209 or even take their kids to sports and city parks. 3578 02:47:23,209 --> 02:47:26,212 This is not what a safe community looks like. 3579 02:47:26,379 --> 02:47:27,180 I truly believe 3580 02:47:27,180 --> 02:47:29,049 bringing a detention center into our city 3581 02:47:29,049 --> 02:47:30,717 will not bring peace or stability. 3582 02:47:30,717 --> 02:47:33,453 It will bring chaos, fear, division and trauma. 3583 02:47:33,453 --> 02:47:35,221 It increases the risk of harassment, 3584 02:47:35,221 --> 02:47:37,257 discrimination and racial profiling. 3585 02:47:37,257 --> 02:47:38,925 It will create tension in neighborhoods 3586 02:47:38,925 --> 02:47:41,227 and could impact public safety, not improve it. 3587 02:47:41,227 --> 02:47:43,530 I do not want to live in a city where residents are forced 3588 02:47:43,530 --> 02:47:45,265 to watch ice activity near our homes, 3589 02:47:45,265 --> 02:47:47,634 schools, parks or everyday public spaces. 3590 02:47:47,634 --> 02:47:49,602 I don't want families to be afraid to exist 3591 02:47:49,602 --> 02:47:51,438 in the same place they call home for years. 3592 02:47:51,438 --> 02:47:53,807 That is not the city of surprise I grew up in, 3593 02:47:53,807 --> 02:47:56,109 and it is not the future I want for my children. 3594 02:47:56,109 --> 02:47:58,278 Citizens and immigrants in this community 3595 02:47:58,278 --> 02:47:59,813 are not a political stunt. 3596 02:47:59,813 --> 02:48:02,148 These are real human beings mothers, fathers, workers, 3597 02:48:02,148 --> 02:48:04,484 grandparents and children who are here to build 3598 02:48:04,484 --> 02:48:05,885 better lives and raise families 3599 02:48:05,885 --> 02:48:07,954 who will grow up and contribute to this community. 3600 02:48:07,954 --> 02:48:10,457 Right now, this center is already causing 3601 02:48:10,457 --> 02:48:12,759 harm, not just do feel, but online as well. 3602 02:48:12,759 --> 02:48:14,728 There are hundreds, if not thousands of people 3603 02:48:14,728 --> 02:48:16,129 discussing this facility 3604 02:48:16,129 --> 02:48:19,132 and the comments are filled with hate, ignorance and cruelty. 3605 02:48:19,132 --> 02:48:21,134 That should be deeply concerning to all of us, 3606 02:48:21,134 --> 02:48:23,103 because the tone of a community matters. 3607 02:48:23,103 --> 02:48:25,171 The message we send matters and bringing 3608 02:48:25,171 --> 02:48:26,740 a detention facility here 3609 02:48:26,740 --> 02:48:28,174 sends a message that surprises 3610 02:48:28,174 --> 02:48:30,276 becoming a national political stage 3611 02:48:30,276 --> 02:48:33,179 instead of the family centered community we claim to be. 3612 02:48:33,179 --> 02:48:36,149 I am asking our city leaders to make the right decision 3613 02:48:36,349 --> 02:48:39,119 and take action immediately to stop the detention center 3614 02:48:39,119 --> 02:48:40,620 from operating in surprise. 3615 02:48:40,620 --> 02:48:42,188 This is not what residents want. 3616 02:48:42,188 --> 02:48:44,524 It does not represent the value of our city. 3617 02:48:44,524 --> 02:48:45,658 We should be a community 3618 02:48:45,658 --> 02:48:48,928 built on safety, dignity and humanity, not fear. 3619 02:48:49,462 --> 02:48:51,498 Thank you for your time. Hey. 3620 02:48:54,801 --> 02:48:57,203 You. I'm going 3621 02:48:57,203 --> 02:49:00,206 to call a few more names before you start, ma'am. 3622 02:49:00,407 --> 02:49:01,074 Yeah. Hello. 3623 02:49:01,074 --> 02:49:03,243 Okay, I'm going to click up. Yep. 3624 02:49:03,243 --> 02:49:04,411 Okay. Five more names. 3625 02:49:04,411 --> 02:49:09,149 Michael O'Shea, Candice Dietsch, Stephen Cramer, 3626 02:49:10,083 --> 02:49:13,086 Daniel Quigley, Alan klein. 3627 02:49:13,687 --> 02:49:14,954 Thank you. Thanks. 3628 02:49:14,954 --> 02:49:16,423 Good evening. Ma'am. Hi. 3629 02:49:16,423 --> 02:49:18,792 My name is Rosalyn Melling Derosier. 3630 02:49:18,792 --> 02:49:22,429 I've lived at Cactus and Rams in Rancho Gabriela for 22 years. 3631 02:49:23,296 --> 02:49:25,498 My home is three miles from both the proposed 3632 02:49:25,498 --> 02:49:28,501 Ice detention center and a data center power plant. 3633 02:49:29,335 --> 02:49:32,338 My kids are now 21, 16 and 15. 3634 02:49:32,639 --> 02:49:33,373 When they were little, 3635 02:49:33,373 --> 02:49:34,974 we rode our bikes through the fields 3636 02:49:34,974 --> 02:49:37,610 where these facilities are being proposed. 3637 02:49:37,610 --> 02:49:40,714 Beautiful flowers and cotton grew all around here. 3638 02:49:41,548 --> 02:49:41,981 I've loved 3639 02:49:41,981 --> 02:49:45,018 being a tiny part of the growth and progress in this town. 3640 02:49:46,252 --> 02:49:48,388 I've been involved but never felt compelled 3641 02:49:48,388 --> 02:49:51,391 to speak in front of the council until now. 3642 02:49:51,424 --> 02:49:53,159 Normally I'm good with background organizing 3643 02:49:53,159 --> 02:49:54,594 and holding signs. 3644 02:49:54,594 --> 02:49:55,362 I've stood on street 3645 02:49:55,362 --> 02:49:59,065 corners to get school bonds and overrides passed. 3646 02:49:59,399 --> 02:50:01,167 I volunteered as the vice president 3647 02:50:01,167 --> 02:50:03,103 for the Marlay Park PTA for many years, 3648 02:50:03,103 --> 02:50:05,538 before my kids moved up to high school. 3649 02:50:05,538 --> 02:50:08,007 I have a small community pantry at my house, 3650 02:50:08,007 --> 02:50:09,275 where friends can drop off 3651 02:50:09,275 --> 02:50:12,278 and pick up food to reduce waste and grocery costs. 3652 02:50:12,712 --> 02:50:15,515 I do little things because I feel a responsibility 3653 02:50:15,515 --> 02:50:17,650 to my community and my neighbors. 3654 02:50:17,650 --> 02:50:19,052 I don't know what to do now. 3655 02:50:20,453 --> 02:50:21,154 Mayor. 3656 02:50:21,154 --> 02:50:23,289 Council members, neighbors. 3657 02:50:23,289 --> 02:50:25,058 I need your help. 3658 02:50:25,058 --> 02:50:27,093 These proposed facilities cannot be 3659 02:50:27,093 --> 02:50:30,096 allowed to operate in our community. 3660 02:50:30,263 --> 02:50:33,066 The drain on our resources, the additional congestion 3661 02:50:33,066 --> 02:50:34,067 on our streets. 3662 02:50:34,067 --> 02:50:36,002 The negative press about our town. 3663 02:50:36,002 --> 02:50:37,937 I mean, do you want to buy a house 3664 02:50:37,937 --> 02:50:40,473 next door to alligator Alcatraz right now? 3665 02:50:40,473 --> 02:50:43,109 Nobody will want to live in surprise. 3666 02:50:43,109 --> 02:50:45,645 Those are selfish reasons for surprise residents 3667 02:50:45,645 --> 02:50:48,648 to oppose these facilities, but they are valid. 3668 02:50:49,049 --> 02:50:52,485 There are also more important reasons to oppose as well. 3669 02:50:53,486 --> 02:50:55,288 The data center is not good for the environment 3670 02:50:55,288 --> 02:50:58,058 as far as power and water consumption. 3671 02:50:58,058 --> 02:51:00,627 Sound pollution in residential neighborhoods. 3672 02:51:00,627 --> 02:51:03,596 Interference with Luke air Force Base and more. 3673 02:51:03,596 --> 02:51:06,166 The ice facilities 3674 02:51:06,166 --> 02:51:07,967 that were documented on 3675 02:51:07,967 --> 02:51:11,271 60 minutes showed that laws are being broken. 3676 02:51:11,304 --> 02:51:12,739 Human rights trampled, 3677 02:51:12,739 --> 02:51:15,742 and people are getting hurt and killed in these places. 3678 02:51:15,909 --> 02:51:18,545 We cannot live next door to that. 3679 02:51:18,545 --> 02:51:21,047 The people of surprise, this community, 3680 02:51:21,047 --> 02:51:24,918 and specifically this suburban mom, need you to represent us 3681 02:51:25,118 --> 02:51:27,921 and do whatever you can do to stop the data center 3682 02:51:27,921 --> 02:51:30,290 and detention center from moving forward. 3683 02:51:30,290 --> 02:51:34,060 Please refuse to partner with or fund 3684 02:51:34,060 --> 02:51:37,497 detention center operations through any city contracts. 3685 02:51:38,064 --> 02:51:41,534 Also, we need you to demand environmental 3686 02:51:41,534 --> 02:51:44,771 traffic and public safety impact reviews immediately. 3687 02:51:45,705 --> 02:51:48,708 These proposed facilities are within two miles of each other. 3688 02:51:49,109 --> 02:51:52,479 Slow them down before there is irreversible damage done here. 3689 02:51:52,979 --> 02:51:53,380 Thank you. 3690 02:51:59,619 --> 02:51:59,886 Thank you. 3691 02:51:59,886 --> 02:52:01,888 Ma'am. Good evening. Good evening. 3692 02:52:01,888 --> 02:52:03,156 Thank you for your time. 3693 02:52:03,156 --> 02:52:04,157 My name is Zach Miller. 3694 02:52:04,157 --> 02:52:06,426 I just recently moved to surprise. 3695 02:52:06,426 --> 02:52:09,462 But we need to call this Ice facility out for what it truly 3696 02:52:09,462 --> 02:52:13,033 is going to be a for profit concentration warehouse. 3697 02:52:14,100 --> 02:52:14,968 Well, surprise. 3698 02:52:14,968 --> 02:52:17,270 Local officials have access to make sure 3699 02:52:17,270 --> 02:52:20,273 the conditions of the facility are humane and sanitary. 3700 02:52:21,307 --> 02:52:24,210 Will you all have DHS provide a full environmental 3701 02:52:24,210 --> 02:52:26,413 impact statement? 3702 02:52:26,413 --> 02:52:28,181 We have seen with our very own eyes 3703 02:52:28,181 --> 02:52:29,349 what these Call of Duty 3704 02:52:29,349 --> 02:52:33,420 cosplaying white supremacists, ice terrorists will do in broad 3705 02:52:33,420 --> 02:52:37,891 daylight with cameras filming them, such as executing U.S. 3706 02:52:37,891 --> 02:52:39,959 citizens. 3707 02:52:39,959 --> 02:52:41,728 So what do we think they are going to do 3708 02:52:41,728 --> 02:52:42,929 in that concentration 3709 02:52:42,929 --> 02:52:46,733 warehouse behind brick walls, with the public not watching? 3710 02:52:48,268 --> 02:52:49,369 Some of these 3711 02:52:49,369 --> 02:52:52,372 terrorists have been trained by the IDF. 3712 02:52:52,739 --> 02:52:55,875 We see what kind of morals they put on display 3713 02:52:56,676 --> 02:53:00,347 and Ice have pedophile enablers and puppy killers 3714 02:53:00,714 --> 02:53:03,783 as some of their leaders, such as Kristi Noem, 3715 02:53:04,250 --> 02:53:07,253 who is staying at the Arizona Grand Resort right now. 3716 02:53:09,522 --> 02:53:12,359 Even if they were getting the so-called worst of the worst. 3717 02:53:12,359 --> 02:53:13,526 Do we, as a surprise, 3718 02:53:13,526 --> 02:53:16,529 really want that to be a part of our backyard? 3719 02:53:17,263 --> 02:53:21,201 Will these so-called ice agents be held accountable 3720 02:53:21,234 --> 02:53:25,205 and arrested if they violate the laws of surprise? 3721 02:53:26,840 --> 02:53:29,843 I love that the city talks about being proactive, 3722 02:53:30,510 --> 02:53:32,979 but this is truly the time to walk the walk 3723 02:53:32,979 --> 02:53:36,649 and to decide if you will stand on the side of the people, 3724 02:53:36,983 --> 02:53:40,653 and if you will stand with the good and stand up to the evil 3725 02:53:41,821 --> 02:53:44,524 and and come up with a proactive plan 3726 02:53:44,524 --> 02:53:46,459 to keep the people in the community safe 3727 02:53:46,459 --> 02:53:49,462 from these federal domestic terrorists. 3728 02:53:49,796 --> 02:53:51,998 Immigration enforcement is important, 3729 02:53:51,998 --> 02:53:53,366 but the way this current form of 3730 02:53:53,366 --> 02:53:57,737 Ice is going about, it is pure evil and needs to be abolished. 3731 02:53:58,772 --> 02:54:01,508 This concentration warehouse most certainly will leave a 3732 02:54:01,508 --> 02:54:02,809 blood stain 3733 02:54:02,809 --> 02:54:06,112 on the city of Surprise forever if something is not done 3734 02:54:06,212 --> 02:54:07,313 about it. 3735 02:54:07,313 --> 02:54:10,316 Thank you. 3736 02:54:14,187 --> 02:54:15,321 Thank you sir. 3737 02:54:15,321 --> 02:54:16,456 Go ahead. 3738 02:54:16,456 --> 02:54:17,490 No one said. 3739 02:54:17,490 --> 02:54:20,493 Madam clerk, can you call for more names, please? 3740 02:54:20,694 --> 02:54:21,928 Yes, sir. Five more. 3741 02:54:21,928 --> 02:54:27,133 Carol Gondo, Jerry Perez, Timothy Woolard, 3742 02:54:27,767 --> 02:54:30,937 Claudio Carillo, Nancy Martin. 3743 02:54:32,305 --> 02:54:33,673 Good evening. 3744 02:54:33,673 --> 02:54:35,075 I'm doctor Stephen Kramer. 3745 02:54:35,075 --> 02:54:38,078 I'm a resident of Sun Village for 14 years. 3746 02:54:38,244 --> 02:54:41,247 And I thank, in Johnny's district. 3747 02:54:41,448 --> 02:54:44,884 And I thank the, mayor and city council for my. 3748 02:54:44,884 --> 02:54:47,887 Allow me the opportunity to raise the issue 3749 02:54:47,954 --> 02:54:51,624 of grave concern about the DHS decision 3750 02:54:51,658 --> 02:54:55,261 to site a detention center here in the City of surprise, 3751 02:54:55,662 --> 02:54:59,466 but especially at the Sweetwater Avenue location. 3752 02:54:59,933 --> 02:55:03,436 That location is less than a mile from Desert High School, 3753 02:55:03,737 --> 02:55:07,507 and less than 2000ft from the nearest children's playground. 3754 02:55:08,241 --> 02:55:09,008 This poses 3755 02:55:09,008 --> 02:55:10,243 the greatest threat 3756 02:55:10,243 --> 02:55:13,480 to the children and residents of Desert Cactus community. 3757 02:55:13,947 --> 02:55:16,916 Based on the planned detention of the worst of the worst 3758 02:55:17,217 --> 02:55:19,986 brutal criminals and rapists, they plan to housed 3759 02:55:19,986 --> 02:55:23,023 in an insecure warehouse there. 3760 02:55:23,790 --> 02:55:27,560 I thank the city for making us aware that federal 3761 02:55:27,560 --> 02:55:31,364 jurisdiction takes precedence over local regulations. 3762 02:55:31,798 --> 02:55:36,302 However, states rights do take precedence over federal, 3763 02:55:37,437 --> 02:55:40,407 federal federal unless 3764 02:55:40,407 --> 02:55:43,576 expressly permitted by law. 3765 02:55:44,244 --> 02:55:47,914 It is a state's rights right and obligation 3766 02:55:47,914 --> 02:55:51,384 to ensure the safety and security of its citizens. 3767 02:55:51,384 --> 02:55:52,585 Citizens. 3768 02:55:52,585 --> 02:55:56,356 Therefore, Your Honors, I ask, what has the Council 3769 02:55:56,356 --> 02:55:59,993 and the mayor done to take steps to to? 3770 02:56:00,326 --> 02:56:04,230 What steps have you taken to make Governor Hobbs and A.G. 3771 02:56:04,264 --> 02:56:08,835 Hayes, aware of this critical safety and security risk? 3772 02:56:09,102 --> 02:56:11,971 This detention center poses to our community 3773 02:56:11,971 --> 02:56:15,275 and the need to prevent the potential disaster, 3774 02:56:15,975 --> 02:56:18,511 for our community. 3775 02:56:18,511 --> 02:56:22,649 Finally, what will be the impact of the unplanned, major 3776 02:56:22,649 --> 02:56:26,486 increase in demand for potable water and sewers and the 3777 02:56:26,486 --> 02:56:30,590 detention center on surprise and its planned expansion 3778 02:56:30,757 --> 02:56:33,927 of working and taxpaying families? 3779 02:56:34,761 --> 02:56:37,497 Housing that can be. 3780 02:56:37,497 --> 02:56:40,033 And that you can refuse to grant 3781 02:56:40,033 --> 02:56:43,636 this request to increase for that facility. 3782 02:56:43,937 --> 02:56:47,440 I thank you for your time and look forward to your response. 3783 02:56:52,245 --> 02:56:54,080 Thank you sir. 3784 02:56:54,080 --> 02:56:57,083 Good evening. 3785 02:56:57,817 --> 02:56:59,352 Good evening, Mayor Sartor. 3786 02:56:59,352 --> 02:57:01,921 Members of the city council and city attorney. 3787 02:57:01,921 --> 02:57:04,924 Larry. My name is Alan Klein. 3788 02:57:05,258 --> 02:57:09,295 I've been a resident of surprise for well over 20 years. 3789 02:57:10,597 --> 02:57:12,699 I've called surprise home. 3790 02:57:12,699 --> 02:57:15,101 I've got this prepared speech, 3791 02:57:15,101 --> 02:57:17,537 and I'm going to go through that because a few other 3792 02:57:17,537 --> 02:57:20,540 things came up while I was in the audience. 3793 02:57:21,107 --> 02:57:22,375 So, yeah, we've 3794 02:57:22,375 --> 02:57:25,245 we've gone through all the buying the warehouse 3795 02:57:25,245 --> 02:57:28,181 and the federal agency and breakdown 3796 02:57:28,181 --> 02:57:31,351 in intergovernmental transparency and all that 3797 02:57:31,918 --> 02:57:35,288 in the warehouse of people, the concentration camp, 3798 02:57:36,256 --> 02:57:38,291 the lousy location, 3799 02:57:38,291 --> 02:57:41,261 the tax to our infrastructure. 3800 02:57:41,261 --> 02:57:44,264 And I hope, I implore you, I hope you'll study all that 3801 02:57:44,297 --> 02:57:46,966 and slow this thing down as much as you can 3802 02:57:46,966 --> 02:57:49,002 and do what you can. 3803 02:57:49,002 --> 02:57:50,904 All the studies and all that. 3804 02:57:50,904 --> 02:57:51,638 And, you know, 3805 02:57:52,839 --> 02:57:55,308 I'm going to go off my prepared speech 3806 02:57:55,308 --> 02:57:57,944 because I'm speaking from the heart, 3807 02:57:57,944 --> 02:57:59,779 because I spoke with 3808 02:57:59,779 --> 02:58:00,680 some of the people 3809 02:58:00,680 --> 02:58:01,514 in the audience, 3810 02:58:01,514 --> 02:58:04,517 and they told me they have to carry their passport 3811 02:58:04,517 --> 02:58:07,854 because they're in fear and they're American citizens. 3812 02:58:08,021 --> 02:58:11,124 This is not America. And. 3813 02:58:11,591 --> 02:58:13,560 And I saw what happened to Rene. 3814 02:58:13,560 --> 02:58:14,160 Good. 3815 02:58:14,160 --> 02:58:17,163 I have family and friends in Minneapolis, 3816 02:58:17,664 --> 02:58:21,434 and we hear it's worse than what you see in the news. 3817 02:58:22,168 --> 02:58:25,472 And I woke up one morning, and I'm an avid cyclist 3818 02:58:25,472 --> 02:58:27,173 to go mountain biking. 3819 02:58:27,173 --> 02:58:31,277 And I saw Alex Prentiss picture on a mountain bike. 3820 02:58:31,811 --> 02:58:33,613 And I went to a protest this week, 3821 02:58:33,613 --> 02:58:35,415 and I've gone to multiple protests, 3822 02:58:35,415 --> 02:58:37,851 and I did a memorial bike ride for Alex. 3823 02:58:37,851 --> 02:58:40,954 Pretty nice. This is not America. 3824 02:58:41,921 --> 02:58:42,722 Surprise. 3825 02:58:42,722 --> 02:58:45,358 Arizona, all of you. 3826 02:58:45,358 --> 02:58:50,463 You have an opportunity to show the rest of the country 3827 02:58:50,463 --> 02:58:53,466 and the rest of the world how to stand up 3828 02:58:53,533 --> 02:58:55,468 to the federal government. 3829 02:58:55,468 --> 02:58:57,837 And I'm going to ask you a question. 3830 02:58:57,837 --> 02:59:00,840 I want to know what are you going to do? 3831 02:59:01,474 --> 02:59:02,642 And I want to see it. 3832 02:59:02,642 --> 02:59:07,380 I want there was no transparency in what the federal government 3833 02:59:07,380 --> 02:59:10,383 did when they acquired that property. 3834 02:59:10,383 --> 02:59:13,386 I want I'm asking you for transparency. 3835 02:59:13,453 --> 02:59:15,822 I want to know what you're going to do. 3836 02:59:15,822 --> 02:59:18,625 And I want to hear what you going to do publicly. 3837 02:59:18,625 --> 02:59:20,193 I want to see it. 3838 02:59:20,193 --> 02:59:22,929 So I implore you, I hope you will do that. 3839 02:59:22,929 --> 02:59:26,833 And don't let this facility ruin surprise. 3840 02:59:26,833 --> 02:59:27,767 Arizona. 3841 02:59:27,767 --> 02:59:30,770 Thank you. 3842 02:59:35,041 --> 02:59:35,608 Good evening. 3843 02:59:35,608 --> 02:59:37,644 Carol Goncalo. Grand and reams. 3844 02:59:37,644 --> 02:59:39,713 I was deeply disappointed by the statement 3845 02:59:39,713 --> 02:59:41,581 of the City of Surprise released on January 3846 02:59:41,581 --> 02:59:43,917 30th. It essentially told residents 3847 02:59:43,917 --> 02:59:45,352 that there is nothing you can do. 3848 02:59:45,352 --> 02:59:48,355 And from where we sit, you're not even going to try. 3849 02:59:48,488 --> 02:59:50,123 That's unacceptable. 3850 02:59:50,123 --> 02:59:52,025 If you truly don't know how to push back, 3851 02:59:52,025 --> 02:59:53,593 then look to those cities 3852 02:59:53,593 --> 02:59:55,895 whose leaders are standing up for the residents 3853 02:59:55,895 --> 02:59:57,764 and pushing back and stopping it. 3854 02:59:57,764 --> 02:59:59,432 Hanover City, Virginia. 3855 02:59:59,432 --> 03:00:00,900 Durant, Oklahoma. 3856 03:00:00,900 --> 03:00:04,337 San Antonio, Texas, Merrimack, New Hampshire. 3857 03:00:04,704 --> 03:00:07,707 Social circle, Georgia, Roxbury, new Jersey, 3858 03:00:07,807 --> 03:00:10,210 Kansas City, Missouri, to name a few. 3859 03:00:10,210 --> 03:00:13,013 These communities don't hide behind federal language. 3860 03:00:13,013 --> 03:00:15,148 They use every tool available to make it clear 3861 03:00:15,148 --> 03:00:17,650 that detention centers are not welcome here. 3862 03:00:17,650 --> 03:00:20,653 Right now, surprise is doing the opposite by staying quiet. 3863 03:00:20,653 --> 03:00:21,988 If you allow this to move forward 3864 03:00:21,988 --> 03:00:24,124 without resistance, our city will be remembered 3865 03:00:24,124 --> 03:00:25,392 for one thing. 3866 03:00:25,392 --> 03:00:28,395 Standing by while detention center was ushered in, 3867 03:00:28,528 --> 03:00:31,264 we will be known as a city that is complicit. 3868 03:00:31,264 --> 03:00:34,167 A city that signaled it was friendly to a system 3869 03:00:34,167 --> 03:00:37,137 that harms children, tears families apart 3870 03:00:37,404 --> 03:00:39,973 and detains people who are here illegally. 3871 03:00:39,973 --> 03:00:43,043 We expect you to act and we expect you to fight. 3872 03:00:43,543 --> 03:00:45,545 We expect you to show the same courage 3873 03:00:45,545 --> 03:00:48,148 that other leaders and other cities have shown. Thank you. 3874 03:00:55,689 --> 03:00:56,322 Hello. 3875 03:00:56,322 --> 03:00:57,791 My name is Claudio Cirillo. 3876 03:00:57,791 --> 03:01:00,460 I live in Tempe, but I grew up right here 3877 03:01:00,460 --> 03:01:03,463 and went to school in surprise and El Mirage. 3878 03:01:03,797 --> 03:01:06,866 My family lives on Dishearten Cactus, just a stone's 3879 03:01:06,866 --> 03:01:09,869 throw from where this facility is. 3880 03:01:10,503 --> 03:01:12,572 And where it was sold under the people's noses. 3881 03:01:12,572 --> 03:01:13,640 Here. 3882 03:01:13,640 --> 03:01:16,810 Since the news broke, I've truly never felt 3883 03:01:17,110 --> 03:01:20,113 more ashamed to call this place home. 3884 03:01:20,413 --> 03:01:23,316 I really I can't accept 3885 03:01:23,316 --> 03:01:25,118 the fact that if this goes through 3886 03:01:25,118 --> 03:01:27,087 while we shop, while we go to school, 3887 03:01:27,087 --> 03:01:30,490 while we spend time with our family, less than a mile away, 3888 03:01:30,490 --> 03:01:33,493 there will be men, women, children kept in cages. 3889 03:01:34,694 --> 03:01:37,063 It's a it will be a failing of the city 3890 03:01:37,063 --> 03:01:40,066 to allow this kind of violence to take root here. 3891 03:01:41,701 --> 03:01:44,404 We all, we know all about the similar facilities 3892 03:01:44,404 --> 03:01:45,739 across the United States. 3893 03:01:46,773 --> 03:01:48,208 Like alligator Alcatraz. 3894 03:01:48,208 --> 03:01:50,677 We know so little of what is actually going on in there, 3895 03:01:50,677 --> 03:01:53,680 but what does come out is truly horrifying. 3896 03:01:54,481 --> 03:01:57,350 We see daily violations of human rights, 3897 03:01:57,350 --> 03:02:00,787 including disappearances of way too many. 3898 03:02:01,755 --> 03:02:03,089 That's the future that awaits. 3899 03:02:03,089 --> 03:02:04,491 Surprise. 3900 03:02:04,491 --> 03:02:07,494 Unless this is fully halted in its tracks. 3901 03:02:07,494 --> 03:02:10,497 This facility will be a stain on this that will never fade. 3902 03:02:11,998 --> 03:02:13,967 I want to be clear that what's needed in this moment 3903 03:02:13,967 --> 03:02:16,736 is not a push for more oversight of the facility, 3904 03:02:16,736 --> 03:02:19,739 or more training for those that will staff it. 3905 03:02:20,140 --> 03:02:21,508 This building cannot be allowed 3906 03:02:21,508 --> 03:02:24,511 to be operational in any capacity. 3907 03:02:24,611 --> 03:02:26,279 To the council members, 3908 03:02:26,279 --> 03:02:29,249 it is up to you to do the utmost to prevent this. 3909 03:02:29,582 --> 03:02:32,585 This building will require municipal utilities. 3910 03:02:32,786 --> 03:02:36,189 It will require frequent contact with public safety workers. 3911 03:02:36,690 --> 03:02:38,792 Police. All of this. 3912 03:02:38,792 --> 03:02:42,362 If it's allowed to happen, it's nothing more than collaboration 3913 03:02:42,362 --> 03:02:44,564 with what is a fascist enterprise. 3914 03:02:46,066 --> 03:02:47,567 So use your imagination. 3915 03:02:47,567 --> 03:02:51,037 If if that fails, I'm sure the people of surprise can vote 3916 03:02:51,037 --> 03:02:55,709 in someone with more creativity and backbone to the people. 3917 03:02:55,709 --> 03:02:57,977 We cannot let the results of this room 3918 03:02:57,977 --> 03:03:00,480 dictate the course of action going forward. 3919 03:03:00,480 --> 03:03:02,349 Our collective imagination 3920 03:03:02,349 --> 03:03:05,352 needs to stretch beyond the four walls of this room. 3921 03:03:06,386 --> 03:03:08,788 This facility cannot become operational. 3922 03:03:08,788 --> 03:03:10,156 There is a moral imperative 3923 03:03:10,156 --> 03:03:12,325 to prevent this by any means necessary. 3924 03:03:12,325 --> 03:03:13,360 Thank you. 3925 03:03:13,360 --> 03:03:16,363 Okay. 3926 03:03:17,630 --> 03:03:19,799 I'm going to call a few more names before you start. 3927 03:03:19,799 --> 03:03:20,734 Hello, sir. 3928 03:03:20,734 --> 03:03:21,568 Sir. One second. 3929 03:03:21,568 --> 03:03:24,237 I'm going to call a few more names before you start. 3930 03:03:24,237 --> 03:03:27,207 Mary Bank, Stephanie Medrano, 3931 03:03:27,374 --> 03:03:31,678 Alexis Young, Sarah Hartman, Susan Anderson. 3932 03:03:32,278 --> 03:03:34,080 Thank you, sir. 3933 03:03:34,080 --> 03:03:35,482 Thank you. Good evening sir. 3934 03:03:35,482 --> 03:03:40,286 My name is Tim Willard, and I live at, Rheims in Tacoma area. 3935 03:03:41,588 --> 03:03:42,989 69 years old. 3936 03:03:42,989 --> 03:03:44,657 Never spoke before. 3937 03:03:44,657 --> 03:03:48,128 More than about ten people in one place at any time. 3938 03:03:49,129 --> 03:03:50,330 Never been an activist. 3939 03:03:50,330 --> 03:03:53,333 And until about ten months ago, I was never a protester. 3940 03:03:54,267 --> 03:03:57,237 So kind of nervous. 3941 03:03:58,138 --> 03:04:00,507 I just want you to know that I object 3942 03:04:00,507 --> 03:04:03,476 to the lack of transparency that, 3943 03:04:03,476 --> 03:04:06,479 our current federal government. 3944 03:04:06,513 --> 03:04:09,783 They gave us no prior notice. 3945 03:04:09,816 --> 03:04:12,819 They gave you no prior notice, as I understand it. 3946 03:04:15,288 --> 03:04:16,856 This deal was made 3947 03:04:16,856 --> 03:04:19,859 and closed in total secrecy. 3948 03:04:21,061 --> 03:04:23,830 I object to the inhumane 3949 03:04:23,830 --> 03:04:26,833 separation of families, 3950 03:04:27,434 --> 03:04:31,137 often without due process, without reason. 3951 03:04:31,137 --> 03:04:33,807 Other than what? 3952 03:04:33,807 --> 03:04:35,542 Color of skin. 3953 03:04:35,542 --> 03:04:37,577 They don't look American. 3954 03:04:37,577 --> 03:04:40,046 They don't speak American. 3955 03:04:40,046 --> 03:04:42,882 They don't sound American. 3956 03:04:42,882 --> 03:04:44,684 Suspected 3957 03:04:44,684 --> 03:04:46,753 of possible fraud. 3958 03:04:46,753 --> 03:04:49,756 So the fraudster in chief. 3959 03:04:51,591 --> 03:04:55,195 Even Native Americans have been caught up in this. 3960 03:04:57,030 --> 03:04:58,198 I object 3961 03:04:58,198 --> 03:05:01,067 on the grounds that our community infrastructure, 3962 03:05:01,067 --> 03:05:02,669 our water, our sewer, 3963 03:05:02,669 --> 03:05:05,672 our emergency services will likely be strained. 3964 03:05:06,806 --> 03:05:09,809 Let's for a moment imagine 3965 03:05:10,877 --> 03:05:13,880 that, what the so-called president 3966 03:05:13,880 --> 03:05:17,784 and the so-called officials and and cabinet people and 3967 03:05:18,218 --> 03:05:21,221 and his other bureaucrats, 3968 03:05:21,621 --> 03:05:24,057 are telling us is true. 3969 03:05:24,057 --> 03:05:27,027 That the worst of the worst is going to be 3970 03:05:27,761 --> 03:05:30,764 put in this facility. 3971 03:05:32,999 --> 03:05:37,037 This doesn't make any sense to house them, right? 3972 03:05:37,037 --> 03:05:40,673 In a highly populated neighborhood in our community. 3973 03:05:41,708 --> 03:05:44,711 I think not, and I object, and I hope 3974 03:05:44,911 --> 03:05:48,214 and pray that you all object also. 3975 03:05:49,849 --> 03:05:52,852 I urge you, each and individually 3976 03:05:53,086 --> 03:05:56,790 to make your views known on this matter, 3977 03:05:57,791 --> 03:06:00,794 because it's important to know what side of history 3978 03:06:01,194 --> 03:06:03,596 you are on. 3979 03:06:03,596 --> 03:06:06,766 I also urge and demand the each 3980 03:06:08,368 --> 03:06:11,271 and together. 3981 03:06:11,271 --> 03:06:13,406 You move, 3982 03:06:13,406 --> 03:06:17,544 to take any action possible to slow down, 3983 03:06:17,544 --> 03:06:21,281 impede this facility from opening in our community. 3984 03:06:24,584 --> 03:06:26,219 I love surprise. 3985 03:06:26,219 --> 03:06:27,754 I love Arizona. 3986 03:06:27,754 --> 03:06:30,623 I love the USA. 3987 03:06:30,623 --> 03:06:32,092 And in closing. 3988 03:06:32,092 --> 03:06:34,694 No kings, no tyrants, no fascist USA. 3989 03:06:34,694 --> 03:06:37,697 Thank you very much. 3990 03:06:41,434 --> 03:06:42,435 Good evening ma'am. 3991 03:06:42,435 --> 03:06:45,438 Hi, mayor. Council. 3992 03:06:45,605 --> 03:06:47,207 I'm going to just keep this very simple. 3993 03:06:47,207 --> 03:06:51,177 I been a resident of, surprise since 2009. 3994 03:06:51,177 --> 03:06:53,346 Live in Sun City Grand. 3995 03:06:53,346 --> 03:06:54,381 And I just. 3996 03:06:54,381 --> 03:06:57,384 I beg you to try to do something to stop this, 3997 03:06:57,717 --> 03:07:00,720 you know, DHS detention, center. 3998 03:07:01,521 --> 03:07:03,823 The plan to create a concentration camp, 3999 03:07:03,823 --> 03:07:04,791 as far as I'm concerned, 4000 03:07:04,791 --> 03:07:07,794 would would disrupt learning at the dice schools, 4001 03:07:08,128 --> 03:07:12,499 and and it would terrorize the neighborhoods nearby and even 4002 03:07:13,066 --> 03:07:16,870 either beyond and surprise and put fear in surprise. 4003 03:07:16,870 --> 03:07:19,072 We should not have to live in fear. 4004 03:07:19,072 --> 03:07:22,409 I heard I sat through this whole meeting and heard 4005 03:07:22,409 --> 03:07:25,378 that your biggest budget is, 4006 03:07:25,412 --> 03:07:27,781 is safety in this community? 4007 03:07:27,781 --> 03:07:30,116 Please show that that is the case. 4008 03:07:30,116 --> 03:07:34,187 And please try to do something to stop this detention center. 4009 03:07:34,187 --> 03:07:35,321 Thank you. 4010 03:07:35,321 --> 03:07:35,722 Thank you. 4011 03:07:35,722 --> 03:07:38,725 Ma'am, can I have your name, please, ma'am? 4012 03:07:38,758 --> 03:07:40,126 Yeah. Can I have your name, please? 4013 03:07:40,126 --> 03:07:42,629 For the record, it's Nancy Martin. 4014 03:07:42,629 --> 03:07:44,397 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. 4015 03:07:45,699 --> 03:07:46,032 Good evening. 4016 03:07:46,032 --> 03:07:47,801 Ma'am. Hello. 4017 03:07:47,801 --> 03:07:49,135 Hear me. 4018 03:07:49,135 --> 03:07:49,803 Okay. 4019 03:07:49,803 --> 03:07:52,272 Good evening, mayor and council members. 4020 03:07:52,272 --> 03:07:54,541 My name is Stephanie Medrano. 4021 03:07:54,541 --> 03:07:57,510 I am a lifelong Arizona resident. 4022 03:07:57,510 --> 03:08:00,880 A former elementary school teacher and the daughter 4023 03:08:00,880 --> 03:08:03,883 of a first generation migrant farm worker. 4024 03:08:04,050 --> 03:08:06,252 I'm here tonight because this decision 4025 03:08:06,252 --> 03:08:08,421 is not just about a warehouse. 4026 03:08:08,421 --> 03:08:12,158 It's about who we choose to be as a city and as human beings. 4027 03:08:13,226 --> 03:08:13,860 My father 4028 03:08:13,860 --> 03:08:16,896 worked in the fields of Arizona so that others could eat. 4029 03:08:17,731 --> 03:08:20,667 As a child, he attended a school in Tolleson 4030 03:08:20,667 --> 03:08:24,037 that was legally segregated until the federal court 4031 03:08:24,037 --> 03:08:27,807 ruling of Gonzalez racially forced Arizona to confront 4032 03:08:28,108 --> 03:08:31,144 its discrimination against Mexican-American children. 4033 03:08:32,545 --> 03:08:34,814 He grew up in a system that taught him through law and 4034 03:08:34,814 --> 03:08:35,415 policy. 4035 03:08:35,415 --> 03:08:38,418 His life and his future would be of less significance, 4036 03:08:38,685 --> 03:08:41,688 but he proved them wrong by becoming an educator. 4037 03:08:42,956 --> 03:08:44,758 That history matters today 4038 03:08:44,758 --> 03:08:47,761 because what's being proposed here is not new. 4039 03:08:47,927 --> 03:08:51,765 It's the same injustice repackaged today. 4040 03:08:51,765 --> 03:08:53,767 Instead of segregated schools, they're building 4041 03:08:53,767 --> 03:08:57,504 detention centers instead of open discriminatory laws. 4042 03:08:57,737 --> 03:09:00,640 They hide behind dehumanizing terms like illegal 4043 03:09:00,640 --> 03:09:03,810 aliens and domestic terrorists, which are saturated. 4044 03:09:03,810 --> 03:09:06,613 The media, by this current administration. 4045 03:09:06,613 --> 03:09:08,415 But the outcome is the same. 4046 03:09:08,415 --> 03:09:10,917 The communities of color are criminalized. 4047 03:09:10,917 --> 03:09:14,754 Families are separated, and suffering is turned into profit. 4048 03:09:16,222 --> 03:09:20,293 The Rockefeller group made $70 million in taxpayers 4049 03:09:20,293 --> 03:09:24,064 money are money by facilitating immigrant detention. 4050 03:09:24,397 --> 03:09:26,733 This isn't economic development. 4051 03:09:26,733 --> 03:09:29,669 It's profiting from human pain. 4052 03:09:29,669 --> 03:09:32,405 Any corporation that profits from Ice detention 4053 03:09:32,405 --> 03:09:34,340 is complicit in the harm. 4054 03:09:34,340 --> 03:09:37,777 And any city that allows it shares that responsibility. 4055 03:09:38,945 --> 03:09:41,181 As a former elementary school teacher, I'm 4056 03:09:41,181 --> 03:09:42,248 especially disturbed 4057 03:09:42,248 --> 03:09:45,418 that this facility is so close to the nearby schools. 4058 03:09:46,152 --> 03:09:49,155 As a teacher who has experienced lockdown situations, 4059 03:09:49,155 --> 03:09:51,691 you're giving a set of keys to keep your children safe. 4060 03:09:53,426 --> 03:09:53,860 Children 4061 03:09:53,860 --> 03:09:56,896 deserve safety, stability and freedom to learn, 4062 03:09:56,896 --> 03:10:00,300 not a constant 24 hour ice presence in the neighborhoods. 4063 03:10:00,867 --> 03:10:03,970 No child should fear carry fear into the classroom. 4064 03:10:06,706 --> 03:10:07,607 We know what is. 4065 03:10:07,607 --> 03:10:08,575 Attention brings 4066 03:10:08,575 --> 03:10:10,343 wrongful arrest, abuse, death, 4067 03:10:10,343 --> 03:10:12,479 and total lack of accountability. 4068 03:10:12,479 --> 03:10:15,782 A permanent Ice presence does not make our community safer. 4069 03:10:16,082 --> 03:10:17,817 And no one is safe with this ice. 4070 03:10:17,817 --> 03:10:20,387 And surprise. 4071 03:10:20,387 --> 03:10:22,455 If this facility does move forward, 4072 03:10:22,455 --> 03:10:24,891 it will place an unfair and dangerous burden 4073 03:10:24,891 --> 03:10:27,894 on our local fire, police and EMS departments. 4074 03:10:28,028 --> 03:10:32,332 These are civil servants who chose to serve this community. 4075 03:10:32,699 --> 03:10:35,668 Our neighbors, children and elders not to support 4076 03:10:35,668 --> 03:10:38,671 a federal detention operation designed for profit. 4077 03:10:39,539 --> 03:10:42,042 A 24 over seven detention center will require 4078 03:10:42,042 --> 03:10:45,045 emergency responses that pull resources away 4079 03:10:45,145 --> 03:10:48,648 from surprise residents in crisis and put lives at risk. 4080 03:10:49,883 --> 03:10:50,450 It also 4081 03:10:50,450 --> 03:10:53,453 places civil servants in a compromising position, 4082 03:10:53,687 --> 03:10:55,588 forcing them to choose between their duty 4083 03:10:55,588 --> 03:10:57,524 to their community and involvement 4084 03:10:57,524 --> 03:10:59,459 in a system that causes harm. 4085 03:10:59,459 --> 03:11:02,429 Thank you ma'am. 4086 03:11:05,065 --> 03:11:07,901 I'm going to call a few more names before you begin. 4087 03:11:07,901 --> 03:11:10,904 Collier, Baca, Jonathan, 4088 03:11:11,204 --> 03:11:11,871 Sarah. 4089 03:11:11,871 --> 03:11:13,540 Hartman, Walter. 4090 03:11:13,540 --> 03:11:16,543 Thorndyke, Rich. Manolis. 4091 03:11:16,843 --> 03:11:18,478 Thank you. 4092 03:11:18,478 --> 03:11:18,778 Hello. 4093 03:11:18,778 --> 03:11:20,547 My name is Alexis Courtney Greenway. 4094 03:11:20,547 --> 03:11:22,482 Let's talk to you guys a couple weeks ago. 4095 03:11:22,482 --> 03:11:24,984 I'm here to state clearly, and for the public record, 4096 03:11:24,984 --> 03:11:26,519 this community does not consent 4097 03:11:26,519 --> 03:11:29,489 to an ice concentration camp in the City of Surprise. 4098 03:11:29,789 --> 03:11:32,325 We've all seen the atrocities being carried out by ice. 4099 03:11:32,325 --> 03:11:34,227 The senseless violent violence, 4100 03:11:34,227 --> 03:11:37,564 inhumane practices, and complete disregard for due process. 4101 03:11:38,398 --> 03:11:41,101 These preventable tragedies are happening before our eyes, 4102 03:11:41,101 --> 03:11:42,936 and many more are doubtlessly 4103 03:11:42,936 --> 03:11:45,772 being carried out behind fences and locked doors. 4104 03:11:46,706 --> 03:11:47,807 Federal funding does 4105 03:11:47,807 --> 03:11:50,810 not erase local responsibility. 4106 03:11:51,745 --> 03:11:53,079 The city Council cannot shift 4107 03:11:53,079 --> 03:11:56,082 the consequences of this project on to the federal government. 4108 03:11:56,149 --> 03:11:58,651 The impacts will be felt on a local level. 4109 03:11:58,651 --> 03:12:00,653 We will see increased traffic, 4110 03:12:00,653 --> 03:12:03,056 emergency services and water use. 4111 03:12:03,056 --> 03:12:06,059 The trust broken will be immediate and lasting. 4112 03:12:06,626 --> 03:12:09,796 Residents will be fearful to call for help, report crimes, 4113 03:12:09,796 --> 03:12:12,799 attend schools and participate in local events. 4114 03:12:13,666 --> 03:12:15,969 That fear undermines public safety for everyone. 4115 03:12:15,969 --> 03:12:18,538 But let's be very clear who this harms. 4116 03:12:18,538 --> 03:12:21,241 Most people of color and immigrants 4117 03:12:21,241 --> 03:12:22,108 and migrant families 4118 03:12:22,108 --> 03:12:25,111 are a beautiful and essential part of our community. 4119 03:12:25,345 --> 03:12:28,281 They are our friends, our neighbors, our classmates, 4120 03:12:28,281 --> 03:12:31,017 our coworkers, our small business owners, 4121 03:12:31,017 --> 03:12:33,520 our caregivers, our faith leaders. 4122 03:12:33,520 --> 03:12:34,721 They bring resilience, 4123 03:12:34,721 --> 03:12:38,324 culture, food, music, labor, and love to surprise. 4124 03:12:38,558 --> 03:12:41,094 They strengthen our schools, our economy, 4125 03:12:41,094 --> 03:12:43,496 and our everyday lives. 4126 03:12:43,496 --> 03:12:46,366 A concentration camp sends a message 4127 03:12:46,366 --> 03:12:49,369 that these families are a threat instead of a gift. 4128 03:12:49,636 --> 03:12:52,639 And that message is both false and deeply damaging. 4129 03:12:53,239 --> 03:12:56,009 A city that claims to value families cannot knowingly 4130 03:12:56,009 --> 03:12:56,810 introduce 4131 03:12:56,810 --> 03:12:59,879 a facility that makes families feel unsafe in their own homes. 4132 03:13:01,214 --> 03:13:03,683 We are demanding that this council uses its authority 4133 03:13:03,683 --> 03:13:06,686 to block this project by any means at your disposal, 4134 03:13:06,686 --> 03:13:08,988 and place the opposition of residents clearly 4135 03:13:08,988 --> 03:13:11,991 and unmistakably on the public record. 4136 03:13:12,092 --> 03:13:15,095 No Ice concentration camps in surprise. 4137 03:13:16,529 --> 03:13:17,397 Let me be clear 4138 03:13:17,397 --> 03:13:20,834 this council will not outlast the community on this issue. 4139 03:13:21,201 --> 03:13:22,502 We are organizing. 4140 03:13:22,502 --> 03:13:23,903 We are paying attention. 4141 03:13:23,903 --> 03:13:28,375 We are documenting every vote, every statement, every decision, 4142 03:13:28,375 --> 03:13:31,378 and every attempt to quietly move this forward. 4143 03:13:32,579 --> 03:13:35,548 You answer to us, the people of surprise. 4144 03:13:35,982 --> 03:13:36,783 We are here. 4145 03:13:36,783 --> 03:13:39,319 We are watching. We will continue to show up. 4146 03:13:39,319 --> 03:13:41,287 We will continue to apply pressure 4147 03:13:41,287 --> 03:13:44,090 not only for surprise, but for all of Arizona. 4148 03:13:44,090 --> 03:13:44,891 Do your duty. 4149 03:13:44,891 --> 03:13:46,026 Use your authority. 4150 03:13:46,026 --> 03:13:48,161 Stop this Ice concentration camp. 4151 03:13:48,161 --> 03:13:50,230 All power to the people. Abolish Ice. 4152 03:13:57,170 --> 03:13:58,171 Burning, sir. 4153 03:13:58,171 --> 03:14:00,373 Hey. My name is Jonathan Cook. 4154 03:14:00,373 --> 03:14:03,376 I live off of Grand in Deer Valley. 4155 03:14:03,510 --> 03:14:05,779 Just recently purchased my home. 4156 03:14:05,779 --> 03:14:07,814 Not next to a nice warehouse. 4157 03:14:07,814 --> 03:14:10,350 And it's very disappointing to find that 4158 03:14:10,350 --> 03:14:13,353 that is the future plans for surprise. 4159 03:14:13,586 --> 03:14:16,156 And, my neighborhood is a new. 4160 03:14:16,156 --> 03:14:18,591 The up and coming neighborhood they're building. 4161 03:14:18,591 --> 03:14:21,594 And, I often wake up in the morning to see 4162 03:14:22,362 --> 03:14:24,030 people building houses next to me. 4163 03:14:24,030 --> 03:14:27,133 And, you know, they're not, like, most of us 4164 03:14:27,133 --> 03:14:30,170 here are up there sitting on their, on the chairs. 4165 03:14:31,104 --> 03:14:32,639 We're 4166 03:14:32,639 --> 03:14:34,174 white skinned. 4167 03:14:34,174 --> 03:14:35,942 We don't have to worry about 4168 03:14:35,942 --> 03:14:38,478 getting picked up just because we look a little bit different. 4169 03:14:38,478 --> 03:14:39,479 But, you know, 4170 03:14:39,479 --> 03:14:43,717 when I look outside, my window every morning and seven days 4171 03:14:43,717 --> 03:14:47,120 a week and see who's building my community, 4172 03:14:48,021 --> 03:14:51,558 it's often people who have different color skin. 4173 03:14:52,559 --> 03:14:56,229 And to think that our city is going to be 4174 03:14:56,763 --> 03:15:01,368 the hot spot for a warehouse to store them all 4175 03:15:01,368 --> 03:15:04,371 in, or whatever the plan is for it. 4176 03:15:05,071 --> 03:15:08,608 It's very upsetting to know that that is the future 4177 03:15:08,608 --> 03:15:11,578 of my community. 4178 03:15:12,846 --> 03:15:14,848 The street I live on 4179 03:15:14,848 --> 03:15:17,484 has all families of all 4180 03:15:17,484 --> 03:15:21,321 colors, all backgrounds, and we all get along 4181 03:15:21,321 --> 03:15:24,324 just fine. 4182 03:15:27,293 --> 03:15:30,296 I am very, against 4183 03:15:31,164 --> 03:15:33,366 the the warehouse being used for that. 4184 03:15:33,366 --> 03:15:35,468 And I hope that 4185 03:15:35,468 --> 03:15:40,407 all of you that have a voice that can use it to speak up, 4186 03:15:40,407 --> 03:15:41,374 just like the community 4187 03:15:41,374 --> 03:15:44,677 that is coming here tonight to tell you their concerns 4188 03:15:45,178 --> 03:15:48,148 that you can take your voices to, 4189 03:15:49,382 --> 03:15:53,386 voice your concerns and make something happen, 4190 03:15:53,386 --> 03:15:56,389 whether it slows it down. 4191 03:15:57,657 --> 03:15:58,625 We we need to think about 4192 03:15:58,625 --> 03:16:01,628 the future of surprise and where we're going ahead. 4193 03:16:01,661 --> 03:16:03,229 What's our what's the goal? 4194 03:16:06,032 --> 03:16:09,035 Thank you for your time. 4195 03:16:11,971 --> 03:16:14,174 I'd like to call a few more names. 4196 03:16:14,174 --> 03:16:16,376 Adriana Garcia, 4197 03:16:16,376 --> 03:16:20,046 Andrea Cervantes, Rebecca Murray, 4198 03:16:20,647 --> 03:16:23,650 Connie Adams, William Murphy. 4199 03:16:23,983 --> 03:16:26,986 Thank you, sir. 4200 03:16:27,654 --> 03:16:30,357 Evening, Walter Thorndyke. 4201 03:16:30,357 --> 03:16:33,026 Mister mayor Council. 4202 03:16:33,026 --> 03:16:34,227 I'm a resident of Phoenix. 4203 03:16:34,227 --> 03:16:37,230 And as your neighbor, I'd like to share a story, 4204 03:16:37,797 --> 03:16:40,667 from a local paper in cold water, Michigan, 4205 03:16:40,667 --> 03:16:44,204 dated to the 9th of April, 1945. 4206 03:16:45,372 --> 03:16:47,006 It tells how the U.S. 4207 03:16:47,006 --> 03:16:49,075 Army, under General Patton, the U.S. 4208 03:16:49,075 --> 03:16:51,745 Third Army, came on to what you might call 4209 03:16:51,745 --> 03:16:53,013 a detention center 4210 03:16:53,013 --> 03:16:56,016 just outside the village of Order of Germany. 4211 03:16:57,083 --> 03:16:57,584 The U.S. 4212 03:16:57,584 --> 03:17:00,387 Army brought the leading citizens of order 4213 03:17:00,387 --> 03:17:01,821 to tour the facility, 4214 03:17:01,821 --> 03:17:03,289 which turned out to be part of the book 4215 03:17:03,289 --> 03:17:06,292 and world network of concentration camps. 4216 03:17:07,060 --> 03:17:07,494 A U.S. 4217 03:17:07,494 --> 03:17:11,865 Army colonel told the German civilians, who viewed the scenes 4218 03:17:11,865 --> 03:17:15,001 without muttering a word that they were to blame. 4219 03:17:16,836 --> 03:17:20,106 One of the Germans replied that what happened in the camp was, 4220 03:17:20,106 --> 03:17:24,544 quote, done by a few people, and you cannot blame us all. 4221 03:17:25,945 --> 03:17:26,746 And the American, 4222 03:17:26,746 --> 03:17:30,116 who could have been any one of our grandfathers, said 4223 03:17:30,750 --> 03:17:34,020 this was done by those that the German people chose 4224 03:17:34,020 --> 03:17:37,023 to lead them, and all are responsible. 4225 03:17:39,659 --> 03:17:41,561 The morning after the tour, 4226 03:17:41,561 --> 03:17:44,564 the mayor of Order of killed himself, 4227 03:17:45,298 --> 03:17:47,300 and maybe he did not know 4228 03:17:47,300 --> 03:17:49,402 the full extent of the outrages 4229 03:17:49,402 --> 03:17:53,406 that were committed in his community, but he knew enough. 4230 03:17:55,108 --> 03:17:58,978 And we don't know exactly how Ice will use this warehouse. 4231 03:17:59,579 --> 03:18:02,582 But we know enough. 4232 03:18:03,616 --> 03:18:04,918 I ask you to consider 4233 03:18:04,918 --> 03:18:07,954 what the mayor of Order of might have thought before he died. 4234 03:18:09,689 --> 03:18:12,659 Maybe he felt like a victim. 4235 03:18:12,659 --> 03:18:13,426 He might have thought. 4236 03:18:13,426 --> 03:18:16,162 How is this my fault? I had no jurisdiction over this site. 4237 03:18:17,764 --> 03:18:18,198 Maybe he 4238 03:18:18,198 --> 03:18:21,267 would have said this site was not subject to local zoning. 4239 03:18:21,267 --> 03:18:23,837 What could I do? 4240 03:18:23,837 --> 03:18:26,840 But I think when he reflected 4241 03:18:26,906 --> 03:18:29,476 on the suffering that occurred at this camp 4242 03:18:29,476 --> 03:18:32,512 just outside of town, that those words would have sounded 4243 03:18:32,512 --> 03:18:35,515 hollow even to him, 4244 03:18:35,548 --> 03:18:38,051 because in his heart he knew as we do, 4245 03:18:38,051 --> 03:18:41,121 that we are all responsible for what happens in our community. 4246 03:18:42,155 --> 03:18:45,158 And I urge the council to take action, to stop 4247 03:18:45,425 --> 03:18:48,194 or stall, or at the barest minimum, 4248 03:18:48,194 --> 03:18:49,763 to think creatively 4249 03:18:49,763 --> 03:18:51,798 about how to exercise oversight over 4250 03:18:51,798 --> 03:18:53,666 this proposed Ice facility. 4251 03:18:53,666 --> 03:19:02,509 Thank you. Sir. 4252 03:19:03,843 --> 03:19:05,545 Good evening. 4253 03:19:05,545 --> 03:19:07,714 Mayor and council members. 4254 03:19:07,714 --> 03:19:09,149 My name is Richmond Ellis. 4255 03:19:09,149 --> 03:19:12,485 I live near the intersection of Grand and Sunrise, 4256 03:19:13,319 --> 03:19:16,056 and I'm here to talk briefly about my concerns 4257 03:19:16,056 --> 03:19:19,559 about this Ice facility and to do my best 4258 03:19:19,959 --> 03:19:23,596 to increase your motivation to do whatever is necessary. 4259 03:19:23,763 --> 03:19:28,034 As me, my previous speakers have said to find a way 4260 03:19:28,168 --> 03:19:29,235 to get rid of this, 4261 03:19:30,236 --> 03:19:31,137 construction. 4262 03:19:31,137 --> 03:19:33,406 It's an immoral, 4263 03:19:33,406 --> 03:19:35,341 unAmerican. 4264 03:19:35,341 --> 03:19:38,945 I see, Trump two as focused. 4265 03:19:39,245 --> 03:19:41,681 It's it's methods. 4266 03:19:41,681 --> 03:19:44,684 By disrespecting the rule of law 4267 03:19:44,818 --> 03:19:48,088 and, which is terrible and even more terrible. 4268 03:19:48,121 --> 03:19:51,324 Big treat humans, with no compassion. 4269 03:19:51,624 --> 03:19:54,894 No, no humanity, even if they're no matter if they're 4270 03:19:55,528 --> 03:19:59,265 members of of, of our of our citizenry or immigrants. 4271 03:19:59,766 --> 03:20:03,436 This is this is unacceptable because it's un-American. 4272 03:20:03,837 --> 03:20:05,638 And so, 4273 03:20:05,638 --> 03:20:08,942 you know, all I can say to you is that do your best. 4274 03:20:08,975 --> 03:20:11,111 Go beyond what you think you could do. 4275 03:20:11,111 --> 03:20:14,014 Find a way to to, 4276 03:20:14,014 --> 03:20:17,017 decrease the probability or eliminate 4277 03:20:17,484 --> 03:20:20,487 the building of this institution. 4278 03:20:20,687 --> 03:20:23,890 You know, a comment I learned later on in early life 4279 03:20:24,324 --> 03:20:27,027 where there's a will, there's a way. 4280 03:20:27,027 --> 03:20:29,996 I hope you have the will find a way. 4281 03:20:30,063 --> 03:20:33,933 And even citizens could help you form committees if necessary. 4282 03:20:34,267 --> 03:20:37,103 Gather evidence. We gotta. 4283 03:20:37,103 --> 03:20:39,572 We gotta get rid of this. 4284 03:20:39,572 --> 03:20:40,740 Thank you very much for your time. 4285 03:20:47,113 --> 03:20:49,749 I'd like to call a few more names before we start again. 4286 03:20:49,749 --> 03:20:51,618 Tammy Hall, 4287 03:20:51,618 --> 03:20:54,387 Dana Strickland, 4288 03:20:54,387 --> 03:20:57,490 Mary Hendrick, Sarah Cleveland. 4289 03:20:57,991 --> 03:20:59,225 Jason went. 4290 03:20:59,225 --> 03:21:01,528 Thank you. 4291 03:21:01,528 --> 03:21:01,928 Hello. 4292 03:21:01,928 --> 03:21:04,898 Mayor, council and city staff. 4293 03:21:04,898 --> 03:21:06,266 My name is Adriana Garcia, 4294 03:21:06,266 --> 03:21:08,601 and I'm a longtime resident of the West Valley 4295 03:21:08,601 --> 03:21:11,371 and a member of Organized Power in Numbers. 4296 03:21:11,371 --> 03:21:14,374 I watched in horror, like many of us. 4297 03:21:15,141 --> 03:21:18,211 The constant violence that Ice has inflicted on communities 4298 03:21:18,211 --> 03:21:21,214 and on people, regardless of their immigration status. 4299 03:21:21,247 --> 03:21:24,417 The recent murder of Alex Brady, an ICU nurse, 4300 03:21:25,151 --> 03:21:28,154 is a clear result of escalating violence. 4301 03:21:28,621 --> 03:21:30,156 Let's be clear 4302 03:21:30,156 --> 03:21:32,759 the only ones who win by having this concentration 4303 03:21:32,759 --> 03:21:35,729 camp in our community are mega-corporations 4304 03:21:35,762 --> 03:21:38,498 that the administration has given sweetheart deals to. 4305 03:21:38,498 --> 03:21:43,169 Like the Rockefeller Group, they received 70,000,070 million 4306 03:21:43,169 --> 03:21:46,206 of our taxpayer dollars with no transparency. 4307 03:21:46,940 --> 03:21:48,508 The federal government is telling 4308 03:21:48,508 --> 03:21:51,511 the residents a surprise and this governing body 4309 03:21:51,678 --> 03:21:54,614 that they don't care what this community actually needs. 4310 03:21:54,614 --> 03:21:55,515 The federal government 4311 03:21:55,515 --> 03:21:58,918 then not consult with you nor give you notice of its plans. 4312 03:21:59,519 --> 03:22:00,987 The mayor and council should know 4313 03:22:00,987 --> 03:22:03,456 and have a say on what happens in the city. 4314 03:22:03,456 --> 03:22:05,091 That is what you were elected to do. 4315 03:22:06,326 --> 03:22:07,794 You know better than Washington 4316 03:22:07,794 --> 03:22:10,797 what's happening here and what's good for your city. 4317 03:22:11,698 --> 03:22:14,200 Bringing that attention to the detention center, 4318 03:22:14,200 --> 03:22:14,968 to the doorstep 4319 03:22:14,968 --> 03:22:17,037 doorstep of students and residents 4320 03:22:17,037 --> 03:22:19,539 is a danger to this community. 4321 03:22:19,539 --> 03:22:21,074 I doubt that the young people, 4322 03:22:21,074 --> 03:22:23,510 like the ones who presented today, 4323 03:22:23,510 --> 03:22:26,146 in the nearby high schools, want a detention center 4324 03:22:26,146 --> 03:22:29,149 that might hold their friends or family members in it. 4325 03:22:29,683 --> 03:22:31,618 Mayor, council and city manager. 4326 03:22:31,618 --> 03:22:33,820 You all have a moral responsibility 4327 03:22:33,820 --> 03:22:35,555 and a fiduciary duty 4328 03:22:35,555 --> 03:22:38,458 to not allow this detention center in your city. 4329 03:22:38,458 --> 03:22:41,461 The federal government's property will be tax exempt, 4330 03:22:41,461 --> 03:22:42,896 will be costly to your city 4331 03:22:42,896 --> 03:22:45,065 through the infrastructure changes needed, 4332 03:22:45,065 --> 03:22:46,800 and will be a drain on resources, 4333 03:22:46,800 --> 03:22:50,637 including fire and police cities across the country. 4334 03:22:50,704 --> 03:22:53,406 Both Republican and Democrat led 4335 03:22:53,406 --> 03:22:56,209 are recognizing the danger of these detention facilities 4336 03:22:56,209 --> 03:22:59,579 and barring them from opening up and denying, permitting 4337 03:22:59,579 --> 03:23:02,949 and utilities surprised can take action to, 4338 03:23:02,982 --> 03:23:06,686 like other folks here have said, a thousand people, 4339 03:23:07,320 --> 03:23:08,888 not just the folks in the chambers, 4340 03:23:08,888 --> 03:23:10,423 but the people who are in overflow. 4341 03:23:10,423 --> 03:23:11,991 And all the people protesting 4342 03:23:11,991 --> 03:23:15,628 outside came out against this on very short notice. 4343 03:23:16,196 --> 03:23:19,399 We aren't going anywhere, and we will continue to demand 4344 03:23:19,399 --> 03:23:22,168 that you shut down this plan. Thank you for your time. 4345 03:23:28,475 --> 03:23:30,744 Good evening or good evening. 4346 03:23:30,744 --> 03:23:33,179 Hello, mayor, Council and city staff. 4347 03:23:33,179 --> 03:23:33,880 My name is Andrea 4348 03:23:33,880 --> 03:23:36,883 Luna and I'm a member with organized power in numbers. 4349 03:23:37,183 --> 03:23:38,985 I'm here tonight with working 4350 03:23:38,985 --> 03:23:40,920 people who keep our cities running. 4351 03:23:40,920 --> 03:23:42,689 People from different backgrounds are gathered 4352 03:23:42,689 --> 03:23:46,226 here in the City of Surprise to deliver one clear message. 4353 03:23:46,459 --> 03:23:49,829 This facility must never be used as a detention center. 4354 03:23:50,663 --> 03:23:53,967 The Rockefeller group is cashing in $70 million, 4355 03:23:54,267 --> 03:23:57,270 leaving our community to deal with the consequences. 4356 03:23:57,270 --> 03:23:59,472 This isn't just another real estate deal. 4357 03:23:59,472 --> 03:24:01,141 It's a deliberate choice 4358 03:24:01,141 --> 03:24:02,075 to bring a permanent 4359 03:24:02,075 --> 03:24:05,078 federal detention center into our backyard. 4360 03:24:05,378 --> 03:24:06,946 And to add insult to injury. 4361 03:24:06,946 --> 03:24:08,948 It's our own taxpayer 4362 03:24:08,948 --> 03:24:11,951 funds that are funding this human suffering. 4363 03:24:12,419 --> 03:24:15,321 If this detention center is built, that would mean 4364 03:24:15,321 --> 03:24:18,324 1500 people who live, work, worship 4365 03:24:18,658 --> 03:24:22,662 and raise families in Arizona could be held here out of sight, 4366 03:24:22,662 --> 03:24:25,799 behind walls, under an agency with a record of abuse, 4367 03:24:26,199 --> 03:24:29,202 neglect and wrongful detention. 4368 03:24:29,302 --> 03:24:32,038 When corporations profit from ISIS violence, 4369 03:24:32,038 --> 03:24:34,674 they are complicit in what follows. 4370 03:24:34,674 --> 03:24:35,909 Shame on you, 4371 03:24:35,909 --> 03:24:38,111 Rockefeller Group, for putting people in danger 4372 03:24:38,111 --> 03:24:40,647 just to make money off our backs. 4373 03:24:40,647 --> 03:24:43,083 And let's talk about what happens for supplies. 4374 03:24:43,083 --> 03:24:44,617 What does this mean for us? 4375 03:24:44,617 --> 03:24:45,485 This warehouse 4376 03:24:45,485 --> 03:24:49,155 is close to our high school and nearby elementary schools. 4377 03:24:49,389 --> 03:24:52,058 Having ice presence will create fear and disrupt living. 4378 03:24:52,058 --> 03:24:53,259 And really drawback, 4379 03:24:53,259 --> 03:24:54,060 you know, the usage 4380 03:24:54,060 --> 03:24:57,063 of those parks and events you all just shared. 4381 03:24:57,230 --> 03:24:59,099 It will also strain city resources 4382 03:24:59,099 --> 03:25:01,735 when we should be investing in our community. 4383 03:25:01,735 --> 03:25:03,269 No one is safer 4384 03:25:03,269 --> 03:25:06,172 because the detention center moves next door. 4385 03:25:06,172 --> 03:25:08,708 And this is a question of local governance. 4386 03:25:08,708 --> 03:25:11,277 If the federal government can override surprise laws, 4387 03:25:11,277 --> 03:25:13,413 what does that mean for local control? 4388 03:25:13,413 --> 03:25:15,448 You're going to let the federal government just do that to you. 4389 03:25:16,716 --> 03:25:17,017 It is 4390 03:25:17,017 --> 03:25:20,020 not enough for you to say that this is out of your control. 4391 03:25:20,153 --> 03:25:23,156 Your residents deserve a clear position from this council. 4392 03:25:23,690 --> 03:25:26,693 Your responsibility is to the people of surprise. 4393 03:25:26,960 --> 03:25:28,261 You must publicly denounce 4394 03:25:28,261 --> 03:25:31,264 the use of this facility for immigrant detention. 4395 03:25:31,931 --> 03:25:34,701 Maryland just passed a bill to prohibit using structure 4396 03:25:34,701 --> 03:25:37,404 from operating as an immigration detention facility. 4397 03:25:37,404 --> 03:25:39,072 If it was not meant for people. 4398 03:25:39,072 --> 03:25:41,107 Let's follow in their footsteps. 4399 03:25:41,107 --> 03:25:44,110 Working people built this city. 4400 03:25:44,144 --> 03:25:46,746 We won't allow it to become a site of detention 4401 03:25:46,746 --> 03:25:49,749 and trauma for someone else's profit. 4402 03:25:49,783 --> 03:25:52,786 We must put people over profit 4403 03:25:52,919 --> 03:25:55,689 workers over billionaires. 4404 03:25:55,689 --> 03:25:58,692 Thank you. 4405 03:26:02,896 --> 03:26:03,530 Thank you. 4406 03:26:03,530 --> 03:26:05,398 Good evening sir. Good evening mayor. 4407 03:26:05,398 --> 03:26:10,003 City Council may begin by saying my name is William Murphree. 4408 03:26:10,503 --> 03:26:15,809 I reside with my wife at 15626 North 159th Lane. 4409 03:26:15,809 --> 03:26:17,610 Surprised. Arizona. 4410 03:26:17,610 --> 03:26:20,347 That is in Congressional District nine. 4411 03:26:21,481 --> 03:26:24,284 Legislative district 29. 4412 03:26:24,284 --> 03:26:25,552 City of surprised. 4413 03:26:25,552 --> 03:26:27,354 District Council five. 4414 03:26:27,354 --> 03:26:28,888 Not the biggest, just the best. 4415 03:26:28,888 --> 03:26:31,891 Jack. So, 4416 03:26:32,192 --> 03:26:34,227 your staff 4417 03:26:34,227 --> 03:26:36,796 came here tonight to say. 4418 03:26:36,796 --> 03:26:40,567 Mayor like you, I took an oath of office many, many years ago. 4419 03:26:42,235 --> 03:26:45,238 You see about this globe and anchor that I have on my hat. 4420 03:26:45,438 --> 03:26:47,707 Nobody has 4421 03:26:47,707 --> 03:26:50,710 removed me from that oath of office. 4422 03:26:51,745 --> 03:26:54,748 In my lifetime, I have dealt with most. 4423 03:26:54,914 --> 03:26:58,318 I've been around and introduced to most police agencies 4424 03:26:58,318 --> 03:27:01,321 across the country, including Secret Service. 4425 03:27:02,389 --> 03:27:05,392 What I have never had to deal with. 4426 03:27:05,759 --> 03:27:07,060 Well, let me just pause for a moment 4427 03:27:07,060 --> 03:27:10,063 and say, when I came to the City Hall tonight, 4428 03:27:10,196 --> 03:27:12,399 surprise police department was on the front door. 4429 03:27:12,399 --> 03:27:14,367 How did I know that 4430 03:27:14,367 --> 03:27:15,769 they had their badges? 4431 03:27:15,769 --> 03:27:17,637 Big smiles. Blue uniforms. 4432 03:27:17,637 --> 03:27:18,872 Come on in. 4433 03:27:18,872 --> 03:27:21,875 Welcome to Democracy in Action. 4434 03:27:22,575 --> 03:27:25,478 But what I have never had to deal with 4435 03:27:25,478 --> 03:27:28,481 was a black SUV pulling up beside me. 4436 03:27:28,648 --> 03:27:29,249 Somebody. 4437 03:27:29,249 --> 03:27:32,552 And something that looked like that was a Halloween outfit. 4438 03:27:33,019 --> 03:27:36,723 Jump out and say I'm a law enforcement officer. 4439 03:27:37,257 --> 03:27:39,225 I say, oh yeah, where's your badge? 4440 03:27:40,460 --> 03:27:42,228 He doesn't have one. 4441 03:27:42,228 --> 03:27:44,664 So the city of Surprised does not need 4442 03:27:44,664 --> 03:27:47,667 nor want. 4443 03:27:47,701 --> 03:27:49,436 Ice in this community. 4444 03:27:49,436 --> 03:27:50,437 We don't need them. 4445 03:27:50,437 --> 03:27:52,839 We have a fine police department. 4446 03:27:52,839 --> 03:27:55,108 We have federal partners. 4447 03:27:55,108 --> 03:27:57,844 I'm really disappointed at the 4448 03:27:57,844 --> 03:28:00,880 lack of transparency from our federal partners. 4449 03:28:01,481 --> 03:28:04,617 And I live in, as I told you, condensed Congressional District 4450 03:28:04,617 --> 03:28:07,754 nine, I have contacted my representative 4451 03:28:08,021 --> 03:28:10,557 and got no answer. 4452 03:28:10,557 --> 03:28:13,560 Frustration, frustration, frustration. 4453 03:28:13,660 --> 03:28:15,095 And it 4454 03:28:15,095 --> 03:28:18,031 just appalling to have. 4455 03:28:18,031 --> 03:28:21,034 Honorable Purple Heart 4456 03:28:21,401 --> 03:28:24,604 discharge veterans, purple Heart recipients. 4457 03:28:25,438 --> 03:28:26,272 Honorable D.D. 4458 03:28:26,272 --> 03:28:29,275 2014 snatched up and deported. 4459 03:28:29,976 --> 03:28:31,077 Now that don't bother me. 4460 03:28:31,077 --> 03:28:31,678 You know I'm mad. 4461 03:28:31,678 --> 03:28:34,180 They won't do that to me. 4462 03:28:34,180 --> 03:28:37,517 But this last answer that happened in Minnesota. 4463 03:28:37,517 --> 03:28:40,520 And I'll be brief, Mr., mayor, 4464 03:28:41,755 --> 03:28:44,491 caused me to pause and say, 4465 03:28:44,491 --> 03:28:47,227 what would I do if I saw something like that happen? 4466 03:28:47,227 --> 03:28:50,764 I've been known to get involved when I get involved again. 4467 03:28:51,197 --> 03:28:53,099 So I have a quick question and I'll sit down. 4468 03:28:54,467 --> 03:28:56,436 You guys, are you folks on that panel? 4469 03:28:56,436 --> 03:28:57,837 And city staff know your job? 4470 03:28:57,837 --> 03:28:59,072 I don't have to tell you what it is. 4471 03:28:59,072 --> 03:29:01,875 My question to you is, what can we do to help? 4472 03:29:01,875 --> 03:29:04,577 What can we do to help you make sure 4473 03:29:04,577 --> 03:29:07,580 the word goes out of this place tonight? 4474 03:29:07,681 --> 03:29:11,785 Not here, not now, not ever. Ice. 4475 03:29:11,785 --> 03:29:14,487 No ice. Detention. No Gestapo. 4476 03:29:14,487 --> 03:29:16,623 None of that B.S. 4477 03:29:16,623 --> 03:29:19,626 in the city is the price. 4478 03:29:21,327 --> 03:29:24,330 Because. 4479 03:29:25,131 --> 03:29:27,300 I'd like to call a few more names before you start. 4480 03:29:27,300 --> 03:29:28,268 Hold on one second. Chris, you. 4481 03:29:28,268 --> 03:29:31,271 Thank you for your service, sir. 4482 03:29:34,374 --> 03:29:37,377 Sir, thank you for your service. 4483 03:29:37,377 --> 03:29:38,178 Thank you. Mayor. 4484 03:29:38,178 --> 03:29:39,846 Thank each and everyone who served. 4485 03:29:39,846 --> 03:29:42,849 Thank you. 4486 03:29:45,552 --> 03:29:47,787 Little Rudolph, a couple names, please. 4487 03:29:47,787 --> 03:29:48,655 She's already some names. 4488 03:29:48,655 --> 03:29:50,357 Go ahead. 4489 03:29:50,357 --> 03:29:50,990 Ronald. 4490 03:29:50,990 --> 03:29:55,895 Feltner, Tony Rosenberger, Shelley Smith, 4491 03:29:56,763 --> 03:30:00,300 Sebastian de Portillo, Evelyn Castillo. 4492 03:30:00,600 --> 03:30:01,901 Thank you. Thank you. 4493 03:30:04,104 --> 03:30:04,637 Good evening. 4494 03:30:04,637 --> 03:30:06,773 Mayor. And council members. 4495 03:30:06,773 --> 03:30:08,274 My name is Rebecca Murray. 4496 03:30:08,274 --> 03:30:09,709 I do not live in surprise, 4497 03:30:09,709 --> 03:30:11,311 but I am very close to the water, 4498 03:30:11,311 --> 03:30:14,180 so I feel that this directly impacts me as well. 4499 03:30:14,180 --> 03:30:17,550 Additionally, I am a Arizona local. 4500 03:30:17,550 --> 03:30:19,753 I've lived here for all 41 years of my life 4501 03:30:19,753 --> 03:30:22,756 in the Phoenix metro area, and I take great pride in that. 4502 03:30:23,757 --> 03:30:27,927 I am here to urge you to do everything that you possibly can 4503 03:30:27,927 --> 03:30:31,064 in your power to stop ice from setting up and operating. 4504 03:30:31,131 --> 03:30:34,934 There are 1500 bed prison camp in our communities. 4505 03:30:35,201 --> 03:30:36,636 Not only will it disrupt 4506 03:30:36,636 --> 03:30:38,972 the safety and unity of our neighborhoods. 4507 03:30:38,972 --> 03:30:40,373 It will also send the message 4508 03:30:40,373 --> 03:30:43,376 that the city supports the separation of families 4509 03:30:43,576 --> 03:30:47,380 and the unlawful detention of our communities. 4510 03:30:48,114 --> 03:30:50,850 As I've watched the horror unfold in Minnesota, I think 4511 03:30:50,850 --> 03:30:54,654 I'm in good company stating we are all horror struck by. 4512 03:30:55,789 --> 03:30:57,657 Excuse me, I'm so sorry. 4513 03:30:57,657 --> 03:31:01,594 By the large loss of life that we're seeing at ISIS hands. 4514 03:31:01,761 --> 03:31:04,197 I also feel confident that if we do nothing to stop 4515 03:31:04,197 --> 03:31:05,432 this detention center 4516 03:31:05,432 --> 03:31:06,232 being created 4517 03:31:06,232 --> 03:31:09,235 and stop the increased presence of officers in our communities, 4518 03:31:09,402 --> 03:31:12,338 we will soon mirror the chaos, terror 4519 03:31:12,338 --> 03:31:15,341 and danger that is ever present in our citizens lives. 4520 03:31:15,709 --> 03:31:17,577 Now is a perfect time to take a stand 4521 03:31:17,577 --> 03:31:19,479 and show communities you support, 4522 03:31:19,479 --> 03:31:22,816 that you truly support their best interest and safety, 4523 03:31:23,016 --> 03:31:23,917 that you won't idly 4524 03:31:23,917 --> 03:31:27,620 stand by as fascism digs its claws deeper into our society, 4525 03:31:27,821 --> 03:31:29,422 and that you will do everything in your power 4526 03:31:29,422 --> 03:31:32,525 to protect the people who have entrusted you with this power. 4527 03:31:33,626 --> 03:31:36,830 If nothing else moves you, remember the economic hit 4528 03:31:36,896 --> 03:31:39,899 Arizona took after ten b SB 1070. 4529 03:31:39,899 --> 03:31:41,634 This will be much worse. 4530 03:31:41,634 --> 03:31:44,671 Yeah, I respectfully ask that you consider the long term 4531 03:31:44,671 --> 03:31:48,375 consequences and how history will undoubtedly view you 4532 03:31:48,541 --> 03:31:51,311 when everyone is against this. Thank you for your time. 4533 03:31:56,816 --> 03:31:59,819 Good evening ma'am. 4534 03:32:01,287 --> 03:32:02,355 Good evening, 4535 03:32:02,355 --> 03:32:05,358 mayor, council members and fellow residents. 4536 03:32:06,526 --> 03:32:09,963 My name is Cammy Hall, and my cross streets are grand 4537 03:32:09,963 --> 03:32:11,364 and Remes. 4538 03:32:11,364 --> 03:32:14,601 I have lived in our community for about seven years. 4539 03:32:15,035 --> 03:32:16,970 I'm here tonight because I care deeply 4540 03:32:16,970 --> 03:32:18,671 about the future of our city 4541 03:32:18,671 --> 03:32:21,674 and the quality of life for everyone who calls it home. 4542 03:32:22,308 --> 03:32:25,612 I'm here to address the proposed Ice detention center. 4543 03:32:25,979 --> 03:32:28,982 My family and I do not want a detention facility. 4544 03:32:28,982 --> 03:32:30,417 And surprise. 4545 03:32:30,417 --> 03:32:33,420 Every day, families and children navigate these areas. 4546 03:32:34,287 --> 03:32:35,255 And without proper 4547 03:32:35,255 --> 03:32:38,458 safety measures, we're putting them at unnecessary risk. 4548 03:32:39,325 --> 03:32:42,796 I am concerned about the lack of water and sewer capacity 4549 03:32:42,796 --> 03:32:46,066 to transform a warehouse into a detention site. 4550 03:32:46,666 --> 03:32:49,602 We need to require transparency about how this facility 4551 03:32:49,602 --> 03:32:51,538 will operate and affect our community. 4552 03:32:52,505 --> 03:32:54,207 I demand that we 4553 03:32:54,207 --> 03:32:58,078 have impact reviews for the environment, traffic, 4554 03:32:58,211 --> 03:33:01,214 public safety and infrastructure. 4555 03:33:02,182 --> 03:33:04,617 This city has been growing beautifully. 4556 03:33:04,617 --> 03:33:06,186 I have been proud to live here 4557 03:33:06,186 --> 03:33:09,489 and proud to invite others to enjoy and experience 4558 03:33:09,689 --> 03:33:12,659 what this community has to offer. 4559 03:33:12,659 --> 03:33:15,295 I a detention center is not a business 4560 03:33:15,295 --> 03:33:17,564 that will stay and help our community. 4561 03:33:17,564 --> 03:33:21,067 It is not a business that will respect our rights as citizens. 4562 03:33:21,568 --> 03:33:22,736 It will not bring people 4563 03:33:22,736 --> 03:33:25,739 to help our community grow and better itself. 4564 03:33:25,872 --> 03:33:28,708 This type of business will only bring us down 4565 03:33:28,708 --> 03:33:30,176 with negative views 4566 03:33:30,176 --> 03:33:33,513 and policies that breed violence and tear families apart. 4567 03:33:34,180 --> 03:33:37,150 This is not a business with a positive future. 4568 03:33:37,150 --> 03:33:38,251 The type of business, 4569 03:33:38,251 --> 03:33:41,254 this type of business has a terrible track record. 4570 03:33:41,421 --> 03:33:45,158 The ACLU American Civil Liberties Union 4571 03:33:45,692 --> 03:33:49,262 report that detained immigrants, detailed physical abuse, 4572 03:33:49,262 --> 03:33:53,867 sexual abuse, medical neglect and intimidation to self-deport. 4573 03:33:54,634 --> 03:33:56,903 Deaths are reported at these facilities. 4574 03:33:57,937 --> 03:33:59,606 Can we support a business? 4575 03:33:59,606 --> 03:34:02,108 And yes, it is a big business. 4576 03:34:02,108 --> 03:34:04,477 $70 million business. 4577 03:34:04,477 --> 03:34:05,945 Where were people? 4578 03:34:05,945 --> 03:34:07,480 Where people are caged. 4579 03:34:07,480 --> 03:34:12,385 Literally caged in our backyard cages. 4580 03:34:13,920 --> 03:34:17,257 Surprise can refuse to fund or partner 4581 03:34:17,257 --> 03:34:20,326 with private detention operators for city contracts. 4582 03:34:20,694 --> 03:34:23,630 We can deter this facility from going forward with building 4583 03:34:23,630 --> 03:34:26,633 permits and regulations. 4584 03:34:26,866 --> 03:34:29,169 Can we require, 4585 03:34:29,169 --> 03:34:31,938 adequate, adequate food, adequate water, 4586 03:34:31,938 --> 03:34:34,941 adequate medical care, mental health care? 4587 03:34:35,742 --> 03:34:37,544 They should. 4588 03:34:37,544 --> 03:34:39,746 They should be allowed religious counsel. 4589 03:34:39,746 --> 03:34:42,549 We should require citizen representatives to have access 4590 03:34:42,549 --> 03:34:46,252 to the detainees to assure their needs are met as humans. 4591 03:34:48,054 --> 03:34:51,057 Detainees should be allowed access to lawyers and family. 4592 03:34:51,191 --> 03:34:52,692 They should be allowed phone calls 4593 03:34:52,692 --> 03:34:54,928 at the time of detention and of release. 4594 03:34:54,928 --> 03:34:56,996 They just dump people out on the street. 4595 03:34:56,996 --> 03:34:58,198 Could be 120. 4596 03:35:00,233 --> 03:35:02,068 They should be allowed phone calls. 4597 03:35:02,068 --> 03:35:03,803 They should be allowed work release 4598 03:35:03,803 --> 03:35:05,839 if they're in for more than 72 hours. 4599 03:35:05,839 --> 03:35:07,507 No call, no show. 4600 03:35:07,507 --> 03:35:08,608 You get fired. 4601 03:35:08,608 --> 03:35:11,411 Your family doesn't have an income. 4602 03:35:11,411 --> 03:35:13,079 They need to be accounted for. 4603 03:35:13,079 --> 03:35:15,682 No disappearances. 4604 03:35:15,682 --> 03:35:18,485 I believe the federal government is putting our community 4605 03:35:18,485 --> 03:35:21,488 at risk of physical, emotional, and financial harm. 4606 03:35:21,588 --> 03:35:22,989 I believe our local government 4607 03:35:22,989 --> 03:35:25,992 has a responsibility to act in every way. 4608 03:35:26,393 --> 03:35:29,396 They have available authority. 4609 03:35:29,729 --> 03:35:32,532 According to the national news reports, members of communities 4610 03:35:32,532 --> 03:35:34,300 are being erroneously detained. 4611 03:35:34,300 --> 03:35:35,568 People with citizenship. 4612 03:35:35,568 --> 03:35:37,504 And thank you very much. 4613 03:35:37,504 --> 03:35:39,172 I believe we can do better. 4614 03:35:39,172 --> 03:35:42,008 Ma'am, can I have your name, please, ma'am? 4615 03:35:42,008 --> 03:35:43,877 Can I have your name, please? Cammy Hall. 4616 03:35:43,877 --> 03:35:45,545 Thank you. 4617 03:35:45,545 --> 03:35:47,113 Thank 4618 03:35:47,113 --> 03:35:48,114 Christ. 4619 03:35:48,114 --> 03:35:50,216 Good evening, ma'am. Evening. 4620 03:35:50,216 --> 03:35:50,784 Good name. 4621 03:35:50,784 --> 03:35:53,787 Good evening, mayor and council members. 4622 03:35:53,787 --> 03:35:55,055 My name is Mary Hendricks. 4623 03:35:55,055 --> 03:35:57,957 I've lived in surprise for eight years. 4624 03:36:01,394 --> 03:36:04,397 This is hard. 4625 03:36:05,632 --> 03:36:08,134 And I don't know what to do with this. 4626 03:36:08,134 --> 03:36:10,303 This makes me terrified every day. 4627 03:36:10,303 --> 03:36:13,306 And I. 4628 03:36:13,707 --> 03:36:14,908 Listening to everybody else 4629 03:36:14,908 --> 03:36:17,911 speak so eloquently. 4630 03:36:18,778 --> 03:36:21,748 It's been very, very good point. 4631 03:36:21,948 --> 03:36:24,784 And please listen to them. 4632 03:36:24,784 --> 03:36:27,854 Do anything and everything you can to not bring this 4633 03:36:27,854 --> 03:36:30,857 to our community. 4634 03:36:37,063 --> 03:36:37,397 Sorry. 4635 03:36:37,397 --> 03:36:38,398 Excuse me. 4636 03:36:38,398 --> 03:36:41,401 It is absolutely terrifying. 4637 03:36:43,770 --> 03:36:45,105 Even going to work. 4638 03:36:45,105 --> 03:36:47,941 Seen a dark vehicle 4639 03:36:47,941 --> 03:36:50,543 blacked out. 4640 03:36:50,543 --> 03:36:52,379 I work in 4641 03:36:52,379 --> 03:36:55,382 areas where there's high 4642 03:36:55,615 --> 03:36:58,585 populations of 4643 03:36:58,585 --> 03:37:00,320 all kinds of immigrants. 4644 03:37:00,320 --> 03:37:03,323 They all make this country beautiful. 4645 03:37:08,495 --> 03:37:09,562 I'm just terrified. 4646 03:37:09,562 --> 03:37:11,931 And I don't know what to do anymore. 4647 03:37:11,931 --> 03:37:14,467 Please do anything and everything you can 4648 03:37:14,467 --> 03:37:15,969 to not bring this to our community. 4649 03:37:15,969 --> 03:37:18,405 We won't survive it. 4650 03:37:18,405 --> 03:37:21,241 It's not good for us. 4651 03:37:21,241 --> 03:37:22,709 Thank you. 4652 03:37:22,709 --> 03:37:25,678 Thank you. 4653 03:37:27,681 --> 03:37:29,315 I'd like to call a few more names. 4654 03:37:29,315 --> 03:37:29,749 Okay. 4655 03:37:31,618 --> 03:37:32,919 I'm Clara with 4656 03:37:32,919 --> 03:37:35,922 Gary Allison, Anthony Robinson, 4657 03:37:36,322 --> 03:37:39,459 Nancy blazing came Jacqueline Jimenez. 4658 03:37:39,826 --> 03:37:41,061 Thank you. 4659 03:37:41,061 --> 03:37:42,595 Good evening, ma'am. Thank you, Mr. 4660 03:37:42,595 --> 03:37:44,931 Mayor and council members. Thank you for your time. 4661 03:37:44,931 --> 03:37:46,266 My name is Shelley Smith. 4662 03:37:46,266 --> 03:37:49,536 I'm a ten year resident of Grand near Sunrise and Bell. 4663 03:37:50,136 --> 03:37:52,772 I'm here tonight due to the recent purchase, 4664 03:37:52,772 --> 03:37:54,507 by DHS of the where? Warehouse on die. 4665 03:37:54,507 --> 03:37:55,375 Of course, 4666 03:37:55,375 --> 03:37:57,777 while I understand that our corrupt federal government 4667 03:37:57,777 --> 03:37:59,045 chose not to communicate 4668 03:37:59,045 --> 03:38:01,047 with local government about this purchase, 4669 03:38:01,047 --> 03:38:04,017 and that the Supremacy Clause in the Constitution may apply. 4670 03:38:04,150 --> 03:38:05,218 I also believe that 4671 03:38:05,218 --> 03:38:08,421 now is not the time to rapidly raise our hands in the air 4672 03:38:08,421 --> 03:38:09,689 and surrender. 4673 03:38:09,689 --> 03:38:11,391 And that's kind of how I took your statement 4674 03:38:11,391 --> 03:38:13,793 from the city as a big surrender. 4675 03:38:13,793 --> 03:38:17,230 We can't stand by and let the ice thuggery into our community. 4676 03:38:17,731 --> 03:38:20,834 So the city must take all action 4677 03:38:21,835 --> 03:38:23,536 The city has full control 4678 03:38:23,536 --> 03:38:26,639 over providing sewer services and can withhold those services. 4679 03:38:27,507 --> 03:38:29,843 They can't operate a facility without sewer. 4680 03:38:29,843 --> 03:38:31,678 What about environmental impacts? 4681 03:38:31,678 --> 03:38:33,747 Has a study been completed? 4682 03:38:33,747 --> 03:38:36,750 It's time to be creative and to be leaders. 4683 03:38:36,983 --> 03:38:39,652 Does the city have leverage over vendor contracts 4684 03:38:39,652 --> 03:38:40,754 for private agencies 4685 03:38:40,754 --> 03:38:43,556 that may be contracted to run the facility? 4686 03:38:43,556 --> 03:38:45,091 You all know better than I do. 4687 03:38:45,091 --> 03:38:47,060 What your areas of leverage are. 4688 03:38:47,060 --> 03:38:49,029 And I ask you to use those. 4689 03:38:49,029 --> 03:38:52,032 The bottom line, please stand behind your citizens. 4690 03:38:52,032 --> 03:38:54,334 We don't want this in our community. 4691 03:38:54,334 --> 03:38:56,770 And as a city council, if you don't do everything 4692 03:38:56,770 --> 03:38:59,339 in your power to stop it, you're all complicit 4693 03:38:59,339 --> 03:39:02,809 in supporting the Trump regime's violent deportation processes. 4694 03:39:03,743 --> 03:39:06,780 They are not just detaining violent criminals. 4695 03:39:07,113 --> 03:39:10,450 They are detaining many hard citizens who live and work 4696 03:39:10,450 --> 03:39:13,453 amongst us and have no criminal records. 4697 03:39:13,586 --> 03:39:17,290 A felon president is behind the violence and murder of U.S. 4698 03:39:17,290 --> 03:39:19,259 citizens by Ice agents. 4699 03:39:19,259 --> 03:39:21,995 And this facility puts us all in danger, 4700 03:39:21,995 --> 03:39:24,397 including the students in the nearby schools. 4701 03:39:25,665 --> 03:39:27,834 So I have just a moment more, 4702 03:39:27,834 --> 03:39:29,836 and I just want to thank the local, 4703 03:39:29,836 --> 03:39:31,738 surprise police department for helping us 4704 03:39:31,738 --> 03:39:33,707 stay safe during the protests on Saturday. 4705 03:39:33,707 --> 03:39:36,710 Thank you very much. 4706 03:39:40,580 --> 03:39:42,349 Good evening, sir. 4707 03:39:42,349 --> 03:39:45,352 Good evening, Mayor and council. 4708 03:39:45,552 --> 03:39:48,321 Thank you for allowing this space to happen on hearing 4709 03:39:48,321 --> 03:39:49,222 from your constituents. 4710 03:39:49,222 --> 03:39:52,192 My name is, Sarah Sanders Portillo. 4711 03:39:52,192 --> 03:39:54,661 An organizer with organized power and numbers. 4712 03:39:54,661 --> 03:39:56,363 We have members all over the valley, 4713 03:39:56,363 --> 03:39:59,866 including a lot of members here in surprise, members 4714 03:39:59,866 --> 03:40:04,104 who are appalled that this this warehouse will be used as, 4715 03:40:04,804 --> 03:40:07,774 an actual concentration camp for working families who are 4716 03:40:07,774 --> 03:40:11,077 being scapegoated and targeted by this fascist administration. 4717 03:40:12,479 --> 03:40:14,614 This council right here has the responsibility 4718 03:40:14,614 --> 03:40:17,617 to do everything in its power, 4719 03:40:17,650 --> 03:40:20,653 so that this concentration camp does not open. 4720 03:40:20,954 --> 03:40:21,688 Working class 4721 03:40:21,688 --> 03:40:22,422 immigrant families 4722 03:40:22,422 --> 03:40:25,792 are being kidnaped, brutalized, and they're being killed. 4723 03:40:26,326 --> 03:40:29,329 Also that companies can profit from the system. 4724 03:40:29,763 --> 03:40:32,899 The billionaire class is the real beneficiary 4725 03:40:33,133 --> 03:40:36,236 from these state sanctioned killings, these abductions, 4726 03:40:37,370 --> 03:40:39,839 these assaults all over the country. 4727 03:40:39,839 --> 03:40:40,840 That's why there were over 4728 03:40:40,840 --> 03:40:43,843 a thousand people here today protesting outside. 4729 03:40:44,511 --> 03:40:45,912 Really enraged. 4730 03:40:45,912 --> 03:40:47,247 And they're speaking to you, 4731 03:40:47,247 --> 03:40:49,716 and they're speaking out right now. 4732 03:40:49,716 --> 03:40:52,719 The seller of this warehouse, Rockefeller Group, 4733 03:40:52,886 --> 03:40:55,889 sold it for a whopping $70 million. 4734 03:40:55,989 --> 03:40:59,159 They got a cash payment from DHS. 4735 03:40:59,859 --> 03:41:01,628 That was our money. 4736 03:41:01,628 --> 03:41:03,463 Our money is being used. 4737 03:41:03,463 --> 03:41:04,497 Let's really think about this. 4738 03:41:04,497 --> 03:41:06,900 To imprison innocent working people. 4739 03:41:06,900 --> 03:41:07,667 Not to mention 4740 03:41:07,667 --> 03:41:08,868 all the tens of millions of dollars 4741 03:41:08,868 --> 03:41:10,603 that are going to go to the contractors 4742 03:41:10,603 --> 03:41:13,506 to run this, this concentration camp. 4743 03:41:13,506 --> 03:41:16,509 There is no public process, no public input, 4744 03:41:16,676 --> 03:41:18,411 no consideration with the residents. 4745 03:41:18,411 --> 03:41:21,414 Obviously, on this project. 4746 03:41:21,881 --> 03:41:24,718 It's going to be a huge cost to the city and its resources, 4747 03:41:24,718 --> 03:41:28,154 and it's going to allow and allowing this to move forward 4748 03:41:28,154 --> 03:41:31,424 will just put residents at risk, not only because it's going to 4749 03:41:32,992 --> 03:41:34,627 suck up resources, 4750 03:41:34,627 --> 03:41:37,464 increase wait times for first first responders 4751 03:41:37,464 --> 03:41:41,368 and emergencies, but also all the shit that Ice 4752 03:41:41,401 --> 03:41:43,536 is going to create in the community. 4753 03:41:43,536 --> 03:41:46,106 It's only a matter of time until Ice residents 4754 03:41:46,106 --> 03:41:49,109 here are brutalized by ice. 4755 03:41:49,175 --> 03:41:52,812 All of us here have had to bear witness to all of the murders 4756 03:41:53,179 --> 03:41:56,249 online, which have been horrible for all of us to watch. 4757 03:41:56,950 --> 03:41:59,953 This agency should be nowhere near communities. 4758 03:42:00,053 --> 03:42:02,155 Nowhere near our youth and our children. 4759 03:42:02,155 --> 03:42:05,158 And in fact, that shouldn't exist at all. 4760 03:42:05,392 --> 03:42:08,328 So the demands are pretty clear. 4761 03:42:08,328 --> 03:42:10,030 You need to publicly denounce 4762 03:42:10,030 --> 03:42:13,033 the use of this concentration camp. 4763 03:42:13,733 --> 03:42:15,668 The City of surprise, 4764 03:42:15,668 --> 03:42:17,570 and its attorney must outline their position 4765 03:42:17,570 --> 03:42:19,305 regarding whether the federal government 4766 03:42:19,305 --> 03:42:22,275 has the authority to override city zoning laws. 4767 03:42:22,275 --> 03:42:25,311 And while you may not have all been involved in the purchase, 4768 03:42:25,612 --> 03:42:29,516 not doing anything about this will make you complicit in sets 4769 03:42:29,516 --> 03:42:30,684 and facilitating this 4770 03:42:30,684 --> 03:42:33,386 unimaginable cruelty that's going to go on there. 4771 03:42:33,386 --> 03:42:34,954 So in the most literal way right 4772 03:42:34,954 --> 03:42:38,658 now, doing something to stop that, to stop this is up to you. 4773 03:42:38,858 --> 03:42:39,292 Thank you. 4774 03:42:44,998 --> 03:42:45,965 Good evening. 4775 03:42:45,965 --> 03:42:48,234 Good evening, mayor and city council members. 4776 03:42:48,234 --> 03:42:49,469 My name is Evelyn Castillo. 4777 03:42:49,469 --> 03:42:52,472 I'm also an organizer with organized power numbers. 4778 03:42:53,273 --> 03:42:55,975 We have many members who are rooted in this community. 4779 03:42:55,975 --> 03:42:56,476 And they, 4780 03:42:56,476 --> 03:42:59,479 along with their neighbors, are deeply alarmed and outraged 4781 03:42:59,546 --> 03:43:00,380 by what is happening here. 4782 03:43:00,380 --> 03:43:01,848 And surprise, 4783 03:43:01,848 --> 03:43:04,918 the sale of this warehouse to Ice for immigrant detention 4784 03:43:04,918 --> 03:43:07,020 is not a neutral business decision. 4785 03:43:07,020 --> 03:43:10,490 It is an immoral one, and it sends a clear message 4786 03:43:10,657 --> 03:43:13,660 that profit is being placed above human dignity 4787 03:43:13,793 --> 03:43:16,563 and above the well-being of this community. 4788 03:43:16,563 --> 03:43:18,598 Like you've heard numerous times, 4789 03:43:18,598 --> 03:43:20,400 this facility is dangerously close 4790 03:43:20,400 --> 03:43:23,403 to a local high school and nearby elementary schools. 4791 03:43:23,837 --> 03:43:26,840 Children should be thinking about their dreams and future, 4792 03:43:26,906 --> 03:43:29,909 not growing up in the shadow of a detention center. 4793 03:43:30,310 --> 03:43:33,446 A permanent Ice presence threatens students safety and 4794 03:43:33,446 --> 03:43:36,449 disrupts learning, and exposes children to the traumatic 4795 03:43:36,549 --> 03:43:39,319 a potentially violent ice encounters. 4796 03:43:39,319 --> 03:43:42,055 That alone should make this development unacceptable. 4797 03:43:43,156 --> 03:43:45,692 Community members are already struggling. 4798 03:43:45,692 --> 03:43:47,694 They are worried about the lack of housing, 4799 03:43:47,694 --> 03:43:50,630 rising rents, inaccessible health care 4800 03:43:50,630 --> 03:43:53,633 and the daily reality of economic hardship. 4801 03:43:53,633 --> 03:43:56,636 Adding an Ice detention center does nothing to address 4802 03:43:57,003 --> 03:43:58,705 these needs and problems. 4803 03:43:58,705 --> 03:44:00,440 It deepens them. 4804 03:44:00,440 --> 03:44:04,744 It diverts public attention and resources towards incarceration 4805 03:44:05,111 --> 03:44:08,114 while our community's real needs go unmet. 4806 03:44:08,882 --> 03:44:11,885 If you allow this to proceed, you are choosing complicity. 4807 03:44:12,318 --> 03:44:13,586 We demand that this council 4808 03:44:13,586 --> 03:44:16,523 publicly denounce immigrant detention 4809 03:44:16,523 --> 03:44:17,290 and that you stand 4810 03:44:17,290 --> 03:44:20,727 with the people of surprise, not corporations, not Ice. 4811 03:44:21,728 --> 03:44:23,963 I'm sure we're all exhausted and tired, 4812 03:44:23,963 --> 03:44:26,966 but it doesn't matter, because if nothing is done, 4813 03:44:27,634 --> 03:44:30,236 we will be back and we will continue to show up. 4814 03:44:30,236 --> 03:44:33,239 So choose people over profit and the billionaires. 4815 03:44:39,045 --> 03:44:40,680 Good evening sir. 4816 03:44:40,680 --> 03:44:44,517 Thank you for this opportunity and your attention. 4817 03:44:46,419 --> 03:44:49,189 My name is Tony Rosenberger. 4818 03:44:49,189 --> 03:44:50,657 I've enjoyed retiring. 4819 03:44:50,657 --> 03:44:52,459 And. Surprise. 4820 03:44:52,459 --> 03:44:54,794 Close to the cross streets, North Stadium 4821 03:44:54,794 --> 03:44:57,797 way and Bell. 4822 03:44:57,897 --> 03:45:00,900 What Putin does with despotism. 4823 03:45:01,267 --> 03:45:04,270 Trump does with corruption. 4824 03:45:04,704 --> 03:45:07,707 We don't want his corrupt ice. 4825 03:45:07,841 --> 03:45:09,809 We don't want his detention. 4826 03:45:09,809 --> 03:45:12,412 Gulag. 4827 03:45:12,412 --> 03:45:14,447 Surprise! 4828 03:45:14,447 --> 03:45:17,450 I retire to pickleball courts, 4829 03:45:17,951 --> 03:45:21,621 swimming pools and a gulag next. 4830 03:45:27,627 --> 03:45:28,795 Good evening ma'am. 4831 03:45:28,795 --> 03:45:30,363 Good evening. 4832 03:45:30,363 --> 03:45:31,598 My name is Dana Strickland. 4833 03:45:31,598 --> 03:45:33,967 I've lived in surprise since 2009. 4834 03:45:33,967 --> 03:45:35,635 I'm a disabled veteran, a mental health 4835 03:45:35,635 --> 03:45:38,638 professional, and a two small businesses. 4836 03:45:39,406 --> 03:45:42,409 I'm speaking today with an urgency and conviction 4837 03:45:42,509 --> 03:45:45,478 that all of you oppose the proposed. 4838 03:45:46,279 --> 03:45:49,282 I concentration camp because that's what it is, 4839 03:45:50,250 --> 03:45:52,786 not just because of the proximity to schools, 4840 03:45:52,786 --> 03:45:55,188 parks, children's activities 4841 03:45:55,188 --> 03:45:58,458 and all of the things that defin 4842 03:45:59,459 --> 03:46:01,227 with our families, 4843 03:46:01,227 --> 03:46:04,230 because across the country is facilities, 4844 03:46:04,364 --> 03:46:06,700 very loose air, quotes and enforcement actions 4845 03:46:06,700 --> 03:46:09,703 have not been isolated policy decisions. 4846 03:46:10,236 --> 03:46:12,706 They've produced documented deaths, 4847 03:46:12,706 --> 03:46:15,675 egregious human rights violations and trauma 4848 03:46:15,675 --> 03:46:16,910 to the people in custody 4849 03:46:16,910 --> 03:46:19,913 and the families that they're being torn away from 4850 03:46:20,647 --> 03:46:24,117 in 2025, more than 30 people that we know of. 4851 03:46:24,117 --> 03:46:26,119 And I attached a PDF with their names 4852 03:46:26,119 --> 03:46:27,854 and the circumstances of their deaths 4853 03:46:27,854 --> 03:46:29,589 and my request to speak. 4854 03:46:29,589 --> 03:46:31,725 So you have it. 4855 03:46:31,725 --> 03:46:34,160 So more than 30 people that we know of 4856 03:46:34,160 --> 03:46:38,431 died in these camps, and that doesn't include 4857 03:46:38,798 --> 03:46:42,335 the people who were kidnaped and taken to Alligator Alcatraz 4858 03:46:42,335 --> 03:46:45,338 because we don't have that information. 4859 03:46:46,072 --> 03:46:47,006 So these are the known deaths. 4860 03:46:47,006 --> 03:46:50,577 Just in 2025, it was the deadliest year for ice on record 4861 03:46:51,978 --> 03:46:54,414 in at least a decade. 4862 03:46:54,414 --> 03:46:57,150 These deaths are tied to systemic racism, 4863 03:46:57,150 --> 03:47:00,153 abuse and neglect, inadequate medical care, poor 4864 03:47:00,553 --> 03:47:03,189 inhumane conditions, and lack of transparency. 4865 03:47:03,189 --> 03:47:05,992 These are not accidents 4866 03:47:05,992 --> 03:47:09,396 in any way, shape or form in multiple cities. 4867 03:47:09,629 --> 03:47:12,932 Ice operations, including horizon raids and enforcement 4868 03:47:13,833 --> 03:47:16,002 near schools and homes, have fractured. 4869 03:47:16,002 --> 03:47:17,404 The sense of safety 4870 03:47:17,404 --> 03:47:20,407 that education play in communities should provide. 4871 03:47:20,807 --> 03:47:23,810 Schools are supposed to be safe havens. 4872 03:47:24,077 --> 03:47:27,080 These policies 4873 03:47:27,580 --> 03:47:31,885 and just the outright fascist actions 4874 03:47:32,385 --> 03:47:35,388 of the government. 4875 03:47:35,855 --> 03:47:38,858 Are upending our communities. 4876 03:47:39,759 --> 03:47:42,028 People are fearful of going to school, 4877 03:47:42,028 --> 03:47:45,031 of going to work, of going to school 4878 03:47:45,298 --> 03:47:47,467 just in the community and living their lives 4879 03:47:47,467 --> 03:47:49,602 and they shouldn't have to be. 4880 03:47:49,602 --> 03:47:52,605 Educators and mental health professionals have reported 4881 03:47:53,606 --> 03:47:56,609 that immigration enforcement centers near the schools creates 4882 03:47:56,843 --> 03:47:59,679 anxiety, depression, disrupted learning for students 4883 03:47:59,679 --> 03:48:02,682 whose families live in fear of detention and separation. 4884 03:48:03,083 --> 03:48:05,385 Communities that have lived in detention centers nearby 4885 03:48:05,385 --> 03:48:07,220 describe a chilling psychological effect, 4886 03:48:07,220 --> 03:48:10,423 with constant reminders of families being ripped apart. 4887 03:48:11,491 --> 03:48:14,160 Fears of being killed in the streets. 4888 03:48:14,160 --> 03:48:17,163 And it should not happen. 4889 03:48:18,131 --> 03:48:19,733 I have more, but what I will say 4890 03:48:19,733 --> 03:48:21,568 is that not just for the sake of our children, 4891 03:48:21,568 --> 03:48:23,636 our communities and our families, 4892 03:48:23,636 --> 03:48:26,806 but for the moral integrity of this city in this state. 4893 03:48:27,107 --> 03:48:30,577 I am strongly urging you to outright reject this proposal, 4894 03:48:31,177 --> 03:48:32,979 to stop it from happening, and to use 4895 03:48:32,979 --> 03:48:34,848 every bit of your power and privilege to do it. 4896 03:48:34,848 --> 03:48:36,950 I know that we're paying attention, 4897 03:48:36,950 --> 03:48:39,119 and that ultimately, you will all be held accountable 4898 03:48:39,119 --> 03:48:42,088 for what side of history you choose to be on. 4899 03:48:46,726 --> 03:48:49,229 Before you start, ma'am, I'm going to cost more names, okay. 4900 03:48:49,229 --> 03:48:51,898 Thank you for your service as well, ma'am. 4901 03:48:51,898 --> 03:48:54,067 Elaina Thomas, Jeffrey. 4902 03:48:54,067 --> 03:48:56,603 Smith. Brittany Burback. 4903 03:48:56,603 --> 03:48:59,606 Jemison. Holley. Roxanna Catlett. 4904 03:48:59,739 --> 03:49:00,240 Thank you. 4905 03:49:01,908 --> 03:49:03,443 Good evening. 4906 03:49:03,443 --> 03:49:06,780 I know you must be tired, and I appreciate you listening 4907 03:49:07,514 --> 03:49:11,885 to the mayor, the vice mayor and the city council members. 4908 03:49:13,420 --> 03:49:16,456 I just recently retired from teaching, 4909 03:49:16,890 --> 03:49:20,093 and my husband and I, he taught high school 4910 03:49:20,093 --> 03:49:23,096 English and speech and debate, and I taught kindergarten. 4911 03:49:23,530 --> 03:49:26,666 And in June, we moved away from Bullhead City 4912 03:49:26,666 --> 03:49:29,669 in the Mojave Desert to live where we believed 4913 03:49:29,936 --> 03:49:32,939 we could experience a beautiful garden city. 4914 03:49:34,007 --> 03:49:37,010 We crawled out of the dust in the scorching wind, 4915 03:49:37,010 --> 03:49:40,380 hot moon to live in Paradise. 4916 03:49:41,681 --> 03:49:44,584 And now we have this Trump Army 4917 03:49:44,584 --> 03:49:48,455 concentration camp built in our Paradise. 4918 03:49:49,189 --> 03:49:52,292 It reminds me of a cattle slaughterhouse 4919 03:49:52,559 --> 03:49:54,260 that was being considered 4920 03:49:54,260 --> 03:49:57,430 in Junction City, Kansas, another beautiful garden city, 4921 03:49:57,997 --> 03:49:59,632 and the people fought against it 4922 03:49:59,632 --> 03:50:02,202 because they knew if they didn't, they would reek 4923 03:50:02,202 --> 03:50:05,238 like the cattle yards of Fort Worth and Dodge City. 4924 03:50:06,072 --> 03:50:08,708 And it reminds me of Auschwitz, quite frankly. 4925 03:50:10,777 --> 03:50:12,579 We are all very kind people. 4926 03:50:12,579 --> 03:50:14,514 We're all very considerate. 4927 03:50:14,514 --> 03:50:17,150 We help our communities. We love each other. 4928 03:50:17,150 --> 03:50:20,453 We've been listening to people after people express 4929 03:50:20,453 --> 03:50:23,456 their love for each other and for this community 4930 03:50:23,523 --> 03:50:26,760 and the people of this tiny Polish city called, 4931 03:50:26,760 --> 03:50:28,528 I can't pronounce it. 4932 03:50:28,528 --> 03:50:31,498 Oh, why yes I am. 4933 03:50:32,399 --> 03:50:35,368 They loved their parks and recreation, too. 4934 03:50:35,468 --> 03:50:38,671 And in 1939 it was annexed by the Nazi Germany 4935 03:50:38,671 --> 03:50:41,674 and its name was changed to Auschwitz. 4936 03:50:43,143 --> 03:50:45,111 Those people, although they were aware 4937 03:50:45,111 --> 03:50:47,247 of the network of concentration camps 4938 03:50:47,247 --> 03:50:49,582 being built close by and in their town, 4939 03:50:49,582 --> 03:50:50,950 and they saw the smoke 4940 03:50:50,950 --> 03:50:53,653 every single day they choose to look away. 4941 03:50:53,653 --> 03:50:57,457 And after 7 million Jews and others deemed unwanted 4942 03:50:58,024 --> 03:51:02,996 and marginalized and different were confined and disappeared, 4943 03:51:03,663 --> 03:51:06,266 the people of that beautiful garden city were forced 4944 03:51:06,266 --> 03:51:09,269 to look at what they had ignored. 4945 03:51:09,502 --> 03:51:12,038 I had a very good friend named Eva Schloss, 4946 03:51:12,038 --> 03:51:15,842 who's survived Birkenau, and she was the stepsister 4947 03:51:16,109 --> 03:51:18,678 of Anne Frank, and she spent her life 4948 03:51:18,678 --> 03:51:21,081 warning the world that this could happen again. 4949 03:51:21,081 --> 03:51:23,183 And it's happening again. 4950 03:51:23,183 --> 03:51:26,686 I will not ignore this detention center and this camp 4951 03:51:26,686 --> 03:51:30,423 that is going to sit in our garden city and kill it. 4952 03:51:31,358 --> 03:51:34,561 The city Council gave doesn't have to give them water. 4953 03:51:34,594 --> 03:51:36,529 You don't have to give them electricity 4954 03:51:36,529 --> 03:51:38,565 or air conditioning or sewage. 4955 03:51:38,565 --> 03:51:41,534 Just make it a hot box that no one can work in 4956 03:51:41,534 --> 03:51:43,403 and they'll go away. 4957 03:51:43,403 --> 03:51:46,239 If the current Adminis Space Station administration, 4958 03:51:46,239 --> 03:51:47,040 excuse me, 4959 03:51:47,040 --> 03:51:49,109 needs a large building to contain people 4960 03:51:49,109 --> 03:51:50,877 and separate them from their loved ones. 4961 03:51:50,877 --> 03:51:54,080 They've got a huge $400 million ball room to put them in. 4962 03:51:59,519 --> 03:52:00,954 They bought 4963 03:52:00,954 --> 03:52:04,190 they bought this trench Trump concentration camp, 4964 03:52:04,190 --> 03:52:07,694 not for $70 million, but for 30 pieces of silver. 4965 03:52:08,161 --> 03:52:09,095 Thank you ma'am. 4966 03:52:09,095 --> 03:52:12,832 Thank you ma'am, can I have your name, please, ma'am? 4967 03:52:13,400 --> 03:52:15,769 Ma'am, can I have your name, please? 4968 03:52:15,769 --> 03:52:17,237 Clara woods. Okay. Thank you. 4969 03:52:17,237 --> 03:52:18,171 Sure. Can. 4970 03:52:18,171 --> 03:52:22,509 Claro w I fell Rome and, 4971 03:52:22,776 --> 03:52:25,678 my stadium went all right. 4972 03:52:25,678 --> 03:52:28,481 And she. 4973 03:52:28,481 --> 03:52:29,482 Good evening, sir. 4974 03:52:29,482 --> 03:52:30,684 Good evening. 4975 03:52:30,684 --> 03:52:33,687 Mayor and and, city council members. 4976 03:52:36,289 --> 03:52:39,159 I've been watching, 4977 03:52:39,159 --> 03:52:42,162 these speakers and, so far, I've noticed 4978 03:52:42,162 --> 03:52:44,964 there were only two that 4979 03:52:44,964 --> 03:52:47,967 that were for this facility. 4980 03:52:48,401 --> 03:52:51,404 So that should tell you something. 4981 03:52:53,239 --> 03:52:55,408 This warehouse was purchased by the Department 4982 03:52:55,408 --> 03:52:58,745 of Homeland Security on January 23rd 4983 03:52:59,245 --> 03:53:03,850 for $1,770 million, at the expense of taxpayers, 4984 03:53:04,250 --> 03:53:07,253 without informing the city of this transaction. 4985 03:53:07,721 --> 03:53:11,524 This lawless federal government made this purchase in secret 4986 03:53:11,991 --> 03:53:14,994 in order to avoid public scrutiny. 4987 03:53:15,328 --> 03:53:19,599 This is a prison like processing center with schools and parks 4988 03:53:20,367 --> 03:53:23,370 nearby placed in residential area. 4989 03:53:23,903 --> 03:53:26,239 No public hearing until now 4990 03:53:26,239 --> 03:53:29,175 after the purchase has already been made. 4991 03:53:29,175 --> 03:53:32,245 If this goes through, it will reduce property values. 4992 03:53:32,278 --> 03:53:34,414 Local businesses will suffer 4993 03:53:34,414 --> 03:53:37,450 and children will stay home from school for fear of them 4994 03:53:37,917 --> 03:53:41,287 and their parents being arrested and separated and detained 4995 03:53:41,287 --> 03:53:42,088 or deported. 4996 03:53:43,156 --> 03:53:43,623 We have 4997 03:53:43,623 --> 03:53:47,727 all been seeing the lawlessness and arrests with no due process 4998 03:53:47,727 --> 03:53:51,164 in other states by these masked, wearing thugs 4999 03:53:52,132 --> 03:53:55,935 smashing windows and pulling innocent American civilians 5000 03:53:55,935 --> 03:53:59,639 out of their cars with impunity, terrorizing cities 5001 03:53:59,639 --> 03:54:03,777 with rubber bullets and tear gas if not already. 5002 03:54:03,777 --> 03:54:08,815 We are becoming a county under siege and authoritarian rule, 5003 03:54:09,749 --> 03:54:12,585 especially right now in Minnesota for the past 5004 03:54:12,585 --> 03:54:13,420 three months. 5005 03:54:13,420 --> 03:54:16,623 My heart goes out to the families and friends of Rene. 5006 03:54:16,623 --> 03:54:17,457 Good. And Alex. 5007 03:54:17,457 --> 03:54:20,760 Pretty, who are gunned down by Ice agents 5008 03:54:20,760 --> 03:54:23,763 who somehow think they have special immunity. 5009 03:54:24,164 --> 03:54:27,167 This is what we're up against this year. 5010 03:54:28,501 --> 03:54:31,304 This year, through 3800 children 5011 03:54:31,304 --> 03:54:34,574 have been abducted across the country and detained. 5012 03:54:35,575 --> 03:54:38,978 No more funds for DHS has impeached 5013 03:54:38,978 --> 03:54:41,981 Christie. No. 5014 03:54:44,951 --> 03:54:47,087 These are excerpts from a speech 5015 03:54:47,087 --> 03:54:50,724 by Chase ionize, an attorney of the Lakota tribe. 5016 03:54:50,724 --> 03:54:53,727 Speaking during a hearing. 5017 03:54:53,927 --> 03:54:56,930 The impact that the impact of ice on Minnesota, 5018 03:54:57,664 --> 03:55:00,633 what was described by Senator Dibble was, I declare 5019 03:55:00,633 --> 03:55:05,205 declaration of war on American people, American families. 5020 03:55:05,538 --> 03:55:06,539 What we are facing 5021 03:55:06,539 --> 03:55:09,509 is an attempt to overthrow of constitutional order. 5022 03:55:09,676 --> 03:55:11,111 The integrity and sanctity 5023 03:55:11,111 --> 03:55:14,114 of the United States Constitution is being overrun 5024 03:55:14,147 --> 03:55:17,317 outside the scope of the law, outside the scope of 5025 03:55:17,851 --> 03:55:19,886 constitutional authority. 5026 03:55:19,886 --> 03:55:22,355 The good people of Minnesota and the whole country 5027 03:55:22,355 --> 03:55:23,690 deserve better. 5028 03:55:23,690 --> 03:55:26,626 This is this is the gravity of the weight 5029 03:55:26,626 --> 03:55:29,629 and the magnitude of a very live controversy, 5030 03:55:30,263 --> 03:55:31,831 a constitutional crisis 5031 03:55:31,831 --> 03:55:34,834 that is disturbing the peace of all Minnesotans. 5032 03:55:35,068 --> 03:55:37,303 Right now, this is no small matter. 5033 03:55:37,303 --> 03:55:37,670 Thank you. 5034 03:55:37,670 --> 03:55:40,673 This is a seizure of constitutional order. 5035 03:55:41,174 --> 03:55:42,342 Where can I have your name, please? 5036 03:55:43,543 --> 03:55:44,411 Thank you. 5037 03:55:44,411 --> 03:55:45,512 So you have your name, please. 5038 03:55:45,512 --> 03:55:46,946 Can you say your name, please? 5039 03:55:46,946 --> 03:55:47,347 I'm sorry. 5040 03:55:47,347 --> 03:55:49,549 Have your name, please. Gary. Allison. Okay. 5041 03:55:49,549 --> 03:55:50,350 Thank you. 5042 03:55:50,350 --> 03:55:53,353 Thank you. 5043 03:55:54,788 --> 03:55:55,822 Good evening. 5044 03:55:55,822 --> 03:55:56,556 Good evening. 5045 03:55:56,556 --> 03:55:58,224 My name is Jacqueline Jimenez. 5046 03:55:58,224 --> 03:56:00,794 I live in district five. 5047 03:56:00,794 --> 03:56:01,227 First of all, 5048 03:56:01,227 --> 03:56:02,762 I want to thank you all for your time 5049 03:56:02,762 --> 03:56:05,031 and your attentiveness and engagement. 5050 03:56:05,031 --> 03:56:07,667 This issue is critical for my community. 5051 03:56:07,667 --> 03:56:09,569 My statement will echo 5052 03:56:09,569 --> 03:56:12,539 the sentiments of the room, but I need to add my voice. 5053 03:56:13,440 --> 03:56:16,443 My parents moved us to surprise over 20 years ago, 5054 03:56:17,210 --> 03:56:19,612 because they believed that this was the best place 5055 03:56:19,612 --> 03:56:20,680 to raise a family. 5056 03:56:20,680 --> 03:56:23,817 Since then, my siblings and I have started our own families 5057 03:56:23,817 --> 03:56:26,820 here to. 5058 03:56:28,221 --> 03:56:31,191 Whom we own property 5059 03:56:31,191 --> 03:56:34,260 and we're small business owners where we work as a family. 5060 03:56:36,596 --> 03:56:39,599 Proudly serving our communities for the past 15 years. 5061 03:56:39,866 --> 03:56:42,635 We have deep roots here, 5062 03:56:42,635 --> 03:56:45,638 and surprise has changed so much in the last 20 years, 5063 03:56:46,039 --> 03:56:48,708 with expansion of retail and housing replacing 5064 03:56:48,708 --> 03:56:51,878 so many of the crop yields which immigrants picked, which 5065 03:56:51,878 --> 03:56:54,881 if you still drive by, you can still see them today. 5066 03:56:55,782 --> 03:56:58,151 Today, our small city has the spotlight 5067 03:56:58,151 --> 03:57:01,154 for wrong reasons and all the eyes are on you. 5068 03:57:02,088 --> 03:57:03,957 You can tell us you weren't consulted 5069 03:57:03,957 --> 03:57:07,160 or notified about the Ice facility, but now you know. 5070 03:57:07,193 --> 03:57:10,196 Now we all know and it's time for action. 5071 03:57:10,196 --> 03:57:13,199 You can't just say that there is nothing you can do. 5072 03:57:13,199 --> 03:57:16,336 It's your duty to protect our community and use 5073 03:57:16,336 --> 03:57:19,506 any and all means necessary, available to you to fight 5074 03:57:20,240 --> 03:57:23,243 for our rights and for the peace of our community. 5075 03:57:23,343 --> 03:57:26,079 Many great suggestions were offered tonight. 5076 03:57:26,079 --> 03:57:28,682 The impact this will have will be devastating 5077 03:57:28,682 --> 03:57:31,584 and our community will forever be changed. 5078 03:57:31,584 --> 03:57:33,386 No federal agency should be allowed 5079 03:57:33,386 --> 03:57:36,456 to operate in secrecy, especially not in our backyards. 5080 03:57:37,057 --> 03:57:40,060 You can't just say that there is nothing you can do. 5081 03:57:40,226 --> 03:57:44,064 We will all be looking to you for deeds, not words 5082 03:57:45,198 --> 03:57:48,201 from everyone. 5083 03:57:50,036 --> 03:57:53,039 What I do take comfort is 5084 03:57:53,306 --> 03:57:56,309 seeing the turnout today. 5085 03:57:58,211 --> 03:58:03,783 Unanimous vote. Oh! 5086 03:58:12,225 --> 03:58:14,394 And. And all the support of my neighbors 5087 03:58:14,394 --> 03:58:16,129 opposing this facility and. 5088 03:58:16,129 --> 03:58:19,132 And backing people who look like me. 5089 03:58:21,668 --> 03:58:22,936 Thank you. 5090 03:58:22,936 --> 03:58:25,939 Thank you. 5091 03:58:30,777 --> 03:58:33,747 Madam clerk, are there any more names to read? 5092 03:58:34,247 --> 03:58:36,249 Yes. Let me read a few more, please. 5093 03:58:36,249 --> 03:58:39,152 Alexia. Isaiah's. 5094 03:58:39,152 --> 03:58:41,187 Danya Duran. 5095 03:58:41,187 --> 03:58:41,654 Thomas. 5096 03:58:41,654 --> 03:58:44,657 Skipper Vince Mendez, 5097 03:58:44,758 --> 03:58:48,294 Amanda Kaminski is Yvette Servin. 5098 03:58:48,561 --> 03:58:51,297 Thank you. 5099 03:58:51,297 --> 03:58:52,532 Good evening ma'am. Go ahead. 5100 03:58:52,532 --> 03:58:54,534 Good evening. Hello, mayor and council. 5101 03:58:54,534 --> 03:58:55,602 My name is Brittany Burback. 5102 03:58:55,602 --> 03:58:58,638 I'm a lifelong Arizonan, West Valley resident. 5103 03:58:59,039 --> 03:59:01,341 I'm live in Peoria. 5104 03:59:01,341 --> 03:59:04,778 But my children attend Woodlands Elite Cheer gym. 5105 03:59:04,778 --> 03:59:09,883 That's directly within 500ft of this concentration camp. 5106 03:59:10,583 --> 03:59:13,586 And I am here with a lot of other moms, 5107 03:59:14,220 --> 03:59:18,158 to not only voice my opposition for this facility in general, 5108 03:59:18,391 --> 03:59:22,529 but to also bring your attention to the severe and foreseeable 5109 03:59:22,529 --> 03:59:25,665 risk that this facility poses to our children. 5110 03:59:26,299 --> 03:59:29,302 Not to mention the schools that are all directly around there. 5111 03:59:29,369 --> 03:59:32,038 But again, we are within 500ft. 5112 03:59:32,038 --> 03:59:35,508 We walk out our door and there's the building right there. 5113 03:59:35,709 --> 03:59:39,779 And we know that that base on the rest of the 5114 03:59:41,147 --> 03:59:43,650 nation, ISIS tactics. 5115 03:59:43,650 --> 03:59:47,053 We know that they deploy tear gas and pepper spray 5116 03:59:47,220 --> 03:59:50,957 and long range acoustic devices that can permanently damage 5117 03:59:50,957 --> 03:59:51,825 hearing. 5118 03:59:51,825 --> 03:59:54,627 Though our children are directly within, 5119 03:59:54,627 --> 03:59:55,762 we are not in a safe zone. 5120 03:59:55,762 --> 04:00:00,166 So if Ice gets into a scrap with some, with a protester, 5121 04:00:00,166 --> 04:00:03,169 with whomever they deem unsafe, 5122 04:00:03,169 --> 04:00:05,505 our children are directly. 5123 04:00:05,505 --> 04:00:06,239 This is a direct 5124 04:00:06,239 --> 04:00:09,209 and foreseeable risk that the city has an obligation 5125 04:00:09,342 --> 04:00:10,844 to protect against. 5126 04:00:10,844 --> 04:00:13,646 You should be ashamed of yourselves 5127 04:00:13,646 --> 04:00:16,649 to not be able to provide answers to us today, 5128 04:00:16,916 --> 04:00:18,318 to your constituents, 5129 04:00:18,318 --> 04:00:21,121 as to what this facility is being used for, 5130 04:00:21,121 --> 04:00:24,024 that we don't know what it's going to be used for 5131 04:00:24,024 --> 04:00:25,358 is unacceptable. 5132 04:00:25,358 --> 04:00:27,027 Tell me that the mayor of the price 5133 04:00:27,027 --> 04:00:29,429 cannot get someone from DHS on the phone 5134 04:00:29,429 --> 04:00:31,831 to say what this facility is going to be used for, 5135 04:00:31,831 --> 04:00:34,000 and to issue an appropriate statement. 5136 04:00:34,000 --> 04:00:36,703 I'm calling on this council 5137 04:00:36,703 --> 04:00:40,840 to do everything in your power, including zoning and land use 5138 04:00:41,041 --> 04:00:42,909 authority, emergency police 5139 04:00:42,909 --> 04:00:46,379 powers, emergency city ordinance ordinances, 5140 04:00:47,113 --> 04:00:50,517 any kind of risk mitigation, anything that you can do 5141 04:00:50,517 --> 04:00:53,019 to prevent this facility from moving forward. 5142 04:00:53,019 --> 04:00:56,189 There's our entire community is at risk, 5143 04:00:56,790 --> 04:00:58,825 citizens, immigrants alike. 5144 04:00:58,825 --> 04:01:01,828 And this is unacceptable and despicable. 5145 04:01:01,895 --> 04:01:03,530 And history will remember 5146 04:01:03,530 --> 04:01:06,966 where you stood, what you did and what you didn't do. 5147 04:01:07,400 --> 04:01:09,135 This isn't about politics. 5148 04:01:09,135 --> 04:01:12,138 This isn't about this is about basic human 5149 04:01:12,472 --> 04:01:16,576 decency, morals, and especially we listen to a prayer 5150 04:01:16,576 --> 04:01:18,611 at the beginning of this council meeting 5151 04:01:18,611 --> 04:01:21,915 that to me, to sit up here and say that, 5152 04:01:22,048 --> 04:01:22,382 you know, 5153 04:01:22,382 --> 04:01:23,249 you're going to follow 5154 04:01:23,249 --> 04:01:25,518 Christ's teachings or you're a Christian, 5155 04:01:25,518 --> 04:01:27,487 and this is how we're going to treat people. 5156 04:01:27,487 --> 04:01:28,855 I don't care where you're from. 5157 04:01:28,855 --> 04:01:31,191 I don't care how you came here. 5158 04:01:31,191 --> 04:01:34,461 I don't care any of that is deplorable. 5159 04:01:34,828 --> 04:01:36,629 And it is your duty. 5160 04:01:36,629 --> 04:01:39,199 You swore an oath when you took office 5161 04:01:39,199 --> 04:01:42,035 to the Constitution, to uphold the Constitution. 5162 04:01:42,035 --> 04:01:45,638 And we know that ice is actively violating the Constitution. 5163 04:01:45,739 --> 04:01:48,208 They said the constitution, the Fourth Amendment doesn't 5164 04:01:48,208 --> 04:01:49,809 apply. So 5165 04:01:50,777 --> 04:01:52,345 in Arizona, in general, 5166 04:01:52,345 --> 04:01:55,048 the Fourth Amendment wouldn't apply to 5167 04:01:55,048 --> 04:01:58,485 over half of the citizens here because they look like 5168 04:01:58,485 --> 04:01:59,953 they might be here illegally. 5169 04:01:59,953 --> 04:02:02,956 I'm asking you to take a stand and take. 5170 04:02:07,627 --> 04:02:08,628 Thank you. 5171 04:02:08,628 --> 04:02:09,496 Good evening ma'am. 5172 04:02:09,496 --> 04:02:11,931 Good evening, mayor and members of the city Council. 5173 04:02:11,931 --> 04:02:13,933 My name is Janessa Holley Roebuck. 5174 04:02:13,933 --> 04:02:16,636 I'm here as an indigenous American from Minnesota 5175 04:02:16,636 --> 04:02:19,506 and a proud member of the white Earth nation of Ojibwe. 5176 04:02:19,506 --> 04:02:21,941 I'm a parent, a new resident of surprise, 5177 04:02:21,941 --> 04:02:24,944 and someone who chose this city very intentionally. 5178 04:02:25,445 --> 04:02:28,448 As an Indigenous American, I do have to say I find it rich 5179 04:02:28,782 --> 04:02:29,582 that we just sat 5180 04:02:29,582 --> 04:02:31,885 and listened to budget and the AC telling us 5181 04:02:31,885 --> 04:02:34,187 about our aging energy infrastructure. 5182 04:02:34,187 --> 04:02:37,490 For a city that is now set to allow a facility to operate 5183 04:02:37,490 --> 04:02:40,927 here, where we treat people without human dignity 5184 04:02:41,194 --> 04:02:44,197 and further strain that infrastructure in the process. 5185 04:02:44,798 --> 04:02:47,133 My mother still lives in Saint Paul, Minnesota, 5186 04:02:47,133 --> 04:02:50,136 and she's now staying with me indefinitely because her home 5187 04:02:50,170 --> 04:02:53,339 now feels too unsafe thanks to Ice agents. 5188 04:02:54,307 --> 04:02:56,876 My family recently moved here because surprise has a 5189 04:02:56,876 --> 04:03:01,481 reputation for being safe, family focused, and transparent. 5190 04:03:02,082 --> 04:03:04,351 We chose this community specifically 5191 04:03:04,351 --> 04:03:06,586 because it felt like a place where children can grow up 5192 04:03:06,586 --> 04:03:07,787 without fear, 5193 04:03:07,787 --> 04:03:08,955 where parents feel confident 5194 04:03:08,955 --> 04:03:11,591 dropping their kids off at a school and sports 5195 04:03:11,591 --> 04:03:14,594 like my child's chair gym right next door, Woodlands Elite. 5196 04:03:15,161 --> 04:03:16,363 That's why the recent purchase 5197 04:03:16,363 --> 04:03:19,366 by ice of this large warehouse is so alarming. 5198 04:03:19,399 --> 04:03:20,600 This facility is located 5199 04:03:20,600 --> 04:03:23,603 close to homes, schools and youth spaces, 5200 04:03:23,636 --> 04:03:26,473 and yet residents were not informed, consulted 5201 04:03:26,473 --> 04:03:28,274 or given the opportunity before this 5202 04:03:28,274 --> 04:03:31,277 to voice our concerns for the purchase was made. 5203 04:03:31,277 --> 04:03:32,679 A decision of this magnitude 5204 04:03:32,679 --> 04:03:35,648 should never happen without community input. 5205 04:03:35,648 --> 04:03:38,218 For families like mine, this isn't an abstract. 5206 04:03:38,218 --> 04:03:40,286 This is about the daily sense of safety 5207 04:03:40,286 --> 04:03:42,455 we feel driving our kids to practice 5208 04:03:42,455 --> 04:03:45,458 walking our neighborhoods and putting down our roots here. 5209 04:03:45,492 --> 04:03:46,393 Introducing a large 5210 04:03:46,393 --> 04:03:49,429 federal detention operation so close to children's spaces 5211 04:03:49,729 --> 04:03:53,500 fundamentally changes how the area feels, and that matters. 5212 04:03:53,833 --> 04:03:56,069 So tonight I'm asking for action. 5213 04:03:56,069 --> 04:03:59,572 I respectfully urge this council to formally request full 5214 04:03:59,572 --> 04:04:01,074 transparency from Ice 5215 04:04:01,074 --> 04:04:03,877 regarding the intended use of this facility. 5216 04:04:03,877 --> 04:04:06,579 Further, immediately stop the implementation 5217 04:04:06,579 --> 04:04:08,515 of whatever it is that they have planned. 5218 04:04:08,515 --> 04:04:10,216 Because I can tell you right now, 5219 04:04:10,216 --> 04:04:13,119 our community does not have room for the fear, hate 5220 04:04:13,119 --> 04:04:13,753 and division 5221 04:04:13,753 --> 04:04:16,856 that this concentration camp will undoubtably bring. 5222 04:04:17,390 --> 04:04:18,591 Leadership means standing up 5223 04:04:18,591 --> 04:04:20,560 for the families who trusted this city 5224 04:04:20,560 --> 04:04:22,662 to protect their quality of life. 5225 04:04:22,662 --> 04:04:24,230 I moved here because I believe. 5226 04:04:24,230 --> 04:04:26,399 Surprise! Put safety first. 5227 04:04:26,399 --> 04:04:29,369 I'm asking you tonight to prove that trust was well placed 5228 04:04:29,669 --> 04:04:31,738 by standing with residents, with parents, 5229 04:04:31,738 --> 04:04:33,073 and with our children. 5230 04:04:33,073 --> 04:04:35,308 Please stand on the right side of history. 5231 04:04:35,308 --> 04:04:35,842 Thank you. 5232 04:04:40,814 --> 04:04:43,817 I'd like to call a few more names before you start. 5233 04:04:43,950 --> 04:04:47,287 Michael Roe, Diane Bernick 5234 04:04:48,688 --> 04:04:50,457 or Ben. Rick I apologize. 5235 04:04:50,457 --> 04:04:53,426 Natalie. Mendez. Hernandez. 5236 04:04:53,727 --> 04:04:56,463 Mark. Come on. Come. Irina. 5237 04:04:56,463 --> 04:04:58,198 William. Earlier. 5238 04:04:58,198 --> 04:04:59,933 Thank you. 5239 04:04:59,933 --> 04:05:01,167 Good evening. 5240 04:05:01,167 --> 04:05:03,436 Hello. My name is Alexia. Jesus. 5241 04:05:03,436 --> 04:05:05,338 I am a history teacher, 5242 04:05:05,338 --> 04:05:06,806 a proud Mexican-American 5243 04:05:06,806 --> 04:05:09,743 and a member of the party for Socialism Liberation. 5244 04:05:09,743 --> 04:05:12,145 I'm standing here today in pride and, 5245 04:05:12,145 --> 04:05:14,481 in my identity in the face of concentration 5246 04:05:14,481 --> 04:05:17,083 camps being built in our backyards. 5247 04:05:17,083 --> 04:05:19,619 And I want to point out something that this meeting 5248 04:05:19,619 --> 04:05:22,589 for the first hour was run as business as usual. 5249 04:05:22,622 --> 04:05:25,792 And this is not a business as usual kind of meeting. 5250 04:05:26,126 --> 04:05:29,629 So it was not not the right thing to do. 5251 04:05:31,097 --> 04:05:33,933 We were joking about music and hanging out at the pool 5252 04:05:33,933 --> 04:05:36,102 and other items for about an hour. 5253 04:05:36,102 --> 04:05:36,536 It's like what 5254 04:05:36,536 --> 04:05:40,540 I tell my students time and place or read the room 5255 04:05:41,574 --> 04:05:42,208 as we speak. 5256 04:05:42,208 --> 04:05:45,345 More than 400 protesters were outside of these chambers 5257 04:05:45,345 --> 04:05:48,048 chanting against ice in the proposed facility. 5258 04:05:48,048 --> 04:05:49,282 And we already know by now 5259 04:05:49,282 --> 04:05:52,318 how many millions were spent on this facility. 5260 04:05:52,452 --> 04:05:55,455 And to make it run is going to cost even more. 5261 04:05:55,488 --> 04:05:56,890 What about building schools? 5262 04:05:56,890 --> 04:06:00,393 What about making sure that my students have pens and pencils, 5263 04:06:00,593 --> 04:06:01,127 and the things 5264 04:06:01,127 --> 04:06:04,330 that they need to be able to actually go about their day? 5265 04:06:04,397 --> 04:06:06,032 They don't have those things. 5266 04:06:06,032 --> 04:06:08,201 Why was my last school shut down? 5267 04:06:08,201 --> 04:06:10,804 Why are we trying to build ice facilities in the face 5268 04:06:10,804 --> 04:06:12,572 of our crumbling infrastructure, 5269 04:06:12,572 --> 04:06:14,574 in the face of crumbling education 5270 04:06:14,574 --> 04:06:16,409 and every other thing that we have 5271 04:06:16,409 --> 04:06:19,379 that people need to survive in this community? 5272 04:06:19,512 --> 04:06:22,282 This body should be concerned with those types of things. 5273 04:06:22,282 --> 04:06:24,384 It should be standing with its constituents, 5274 04:06:24,384 --> 04:06:25,018 fighting back 5275 04:06:25,018 --> 04:06:28,021 against this parasitic regime that is violating our rights, 5276 04:06:28,321 --> 04:06:30,690 and against billionaires who are dividing us with lies 5277 04:06:30,690 --> 04:06:33,393 that immigrants are why grocery prices are high, 5278 04:06:33,393 --> 04:06:36,329 why hospitals are shutting down, why schools are shutting down 5279 04:06:36,329 --> 04:06:37,697 when that's not the case. 5280 04:06:37,697 --> 04:06:39,999 It's these rich people who are making those decisions. 5281 04:06:42,869 --> 04:06:43,837 These are our neighbors. 5282 04:06:43,837 --> 04:06:46,840 Some of my own family fears going to grocery stores. 5283 04:06:47,307 --> 04:06:49,809 And if we get any say in it, the mothers, the fathers, 5284 04:06:49,809 --> 04:06:52,545 the students, the stakeholders of this community in this room, 5285 04:06:52,545 --> 04:06:55,281 we will not allow our community or any community 5286 04:06:55,281 --> 04:06:57,117 to be turned into this warped reality 5287 04:06:57,117 --> 04:07:00,420 of terror, death, destruction and chaos in our streets. 5288 04:07:00,987 --> 04:07:02,455 We have to fight back 5289 04:07:02,455 --> 04:07:05,392 against Ice and the Trump administration. 5290 04:07:05,392 --> 04:07:05,859 There shouldn't 5291 04:07:05,859 --> 04:07:08,128 even be consideration to allow people to be dragged 5292 04:07:08,128 --> 04:07:10,163 through the streets, shot in the face, 5293 04:07:10,163 --> 04:07:13,166 not on our dime and not without a fight. 5294 04:07:13,166 --> 04:07:14,167 Just a few days ago, 5295 04:07:14,167 --> 04:07:16,102 tens of thousands of Phoenix residents marched 5296 04:07:16,102 --> 04:07:18,805 through the streets of the Arizona State Capitol. 5297 04:07:18,805 --> 04:07:21,207 There were so many people, it was hard to keep 5298 04:07:21,207 --> 04:07:23,610 track of just how many were coming through. 5299 04:07:23,610 --> 04:07:26,112 We chanted ice off our streets. 5300 04:07:26,112 --> 04:07:28,782 We chanted on and on and on. 5301 04:07:28,782 --> 04:07:30,283 There was a diversity of people. 5302 04:07:30,283 --> 04:07:33,153 I've seen a diversity of people here today, young, 5303 04:07:33,153 --> 04:07:36,156 old people who are teachers, people who have different, 5304 04:07:36,489 --> 04:07:37,957 you know, who are in different professions. 5305 04:07:39,092 --> 04:07:42,328 That is something that is that I look at 5306 04:07:42,328 --> 04:07:45,532 as a as hope and optimistic as an optimistic point. 5307 04:07:46,166 --> 04:07:48,635 And if you imagine a facility built here, 5308 04:07:48,635 --> 04:07:50,503 expect the chance of those tens of thousands 5309 04:07:50,503 --> 04:07:51,971 to be echoing through the walls of these 5310 04:07:51,971 --> 04:07:55,408 very council chambers, to be hundreds, to be thousands. 5311 04:07:55,775 --> 04:07:58,778 Because if you don't stand up to ice, we will. 5312 04:07:58,945 --> 04:08:01,948 The energy is here and is one that I fear, 5313 04:08:02,816 --> 04:08:05,919 has to be talked about and has to be, expressed. 5314 04:08:06,786 --> 04:08:09,489 So before I go, I just want to chant real quick 5315 04:08:09,489 --> 04:08:10,657 with the rest of the audience. 5316 04:08:10,657 --> 04:08:12,525 Thank you ma'am. We want justice. 5317 04:08:12,525 --> 04:08:13,760 We want peace. 5318 04:08:13,760 --> 04:08:16,429 We want prosperity. 5319 04:08:16,429 --> 04:08:18,398 We want ice off our streets. 5320 04:08:18,398 --> 04:08:21,401 Thank you. Ma'am. Hi. Oh, I. 5321 04:08:21,534 --> 04:08:24,537 Whoa! 5322 04:08:26,706 --> 04:08:27,674 Breathing. 5323 04:08:27,674 --> 04:08:28,575 Hello, everyone. 5324 04:08:28,575 --> 04:08:29,542 My name is Dania. 5325 04:08:29,542 --> 04:08:32,545 I'm also a member of the party for Socialism and Liberation. 5326 04:08:32,746 --> 04:08:34,414 I hiki forgot what I was going to say, 5327 04:08:34,414 --> 04:08:35,648 so I'm just going to speak from the heart. 5328 04:08:36,950 --> 04:08:37,550 I was out 5329 04:08:37,550 --> 04:08:40,553 here with the 500 people that were outside 5330 04:08:40,887 --> 04:08:44,090 and chanting over and over and over and over again. 5331 04:08:44,357 --> 04:08:45,692 Ice off our streets. 5332 04:08:45,692 --> 04:08:47,560 Ice out of Arizona. 5333 04:08:47,560 --> 04:08:50,630 The people here today are here for one reason alone. 5334 04:08:50,930 --> 04:08:55,568 To say this surprise will not be bought and sold. 5335 04:08:56,069 --> 04:08:59,639 Surprise is not going to let this detention center happen 5336 04:08:59,639 --> 04:09:00,273 here. 5337 04:09:00,273 --> 04:09:02,942 Surprise is not going to allow the data centers, 5338 04:09:02,942 --> 04:09:05,278 the project Makara, that is also, 5339 04:09:05,278 --> 04:09:06,346 threatening to be built here 5340 04:09:06,346 --> 04:09:07,180 as well. 5341 04:09:07,180 --> 04:09:09,282 The workers here of surprise are not going 5342 04:09:09,282 --> 04:09:10,517 to let this happen. 5343 04:09:10,517 --> 04:09:11,751 We as a community 5344 04:09:11,751 --> 04:09:14,754 are going to stand up and rise up and fight back. 5345 04:09:14,754 --> 04:09:16,690 And we are not going to let this happen. 5346 04:09:16,690 --> 04:09:20,293 We are turning to you guys to be in defense of our community. 5347 04:09:20,427 --> 04:09:23,930 We're all looking at you guys here to be a part of history. 5348 04:09:23,963 --> 04:09:27,333 To be on the right side to prevent this concentration 5349 04:09:27,333 --> 04:09:30,336 camp from being built here in surprise. 5350 04:09:30,837 --> 04:09:34,774 The fact that $70 million were spent here is a 5351 04:09:34,774 --> 04:09:38,678 waste of our taxpayer dollars, and a waste of our labor. 5352 04:09:39,713 --> 04:09:41,014 Alex, you just mentioned 5353 04:09:41,014 --> 04:09:42,482 on the West Side all over, 5354 04:09:42,482 --> 04:09:44,818 we've been seeing schools being shut down. 5355 04:09:44,818 --> 04:09:47,020 The Isaac School District just shut down 5356 04:09:47,020 --> 04:09:49,789 because it was in a $30 million deficit. 5357 04:09:49,789 --> 04:09:52,926 That's a little bit under half of what this, 5358 04:09:53,727 --> 04:09:56,696 what was spent to build this detention center. 5359 04:09:57,764 --> 04:10:01,401 And so we can imagine all the benefit that $70 million 5360 04:10:01,401 --> 04:10:03,536 could be able to do to actually uplift 5361 04:10:03,536 --> 04:10:04,771 the residents of surprise 5362 04:10:04,771 --> 04:10:07,407 instead of threaten them with kidnapings, 5363 04:10:07,407 --> 04:10:09,376 instead of threatening with murders, 5364 04:10:09,376 --> 04:10:12,679 instead of threatening with this state sanctioned violence. 5365 04:10:13,012 --> 04:10:15,181 Surprise deserves better than this. 5366 04:10:15,181 --> 04:10:18,818 And the surprise community here is saying no today. 5367 04:10:19,119 --> 04:10:22,122 Thank you. 5368 04:10:24,124 --> 04:10:26,559 I call a few more names. 5369 04:10:26,559 --> 04:10:29,162 Cordy dead. Decker. 5370 04:10:29,162 --> 04:10:31,664 Brianna. Adams, Taylor. 5371 04:10:31,664 --> 04:10:33,500 Warren one. 5372 04:10:33,500 --> 04:10:36,970 Makiya and Kayla Walsham. 5373 04:10:37,437 --> 04:10:39,706 Thank you. Good evening sir. 5374 04:10:40,840 --> 04:10:42,909 Good evening, Council mayor. 5375 04:10:42,909 --> 04:10:43,877 I'm sure you're very tired, 5376 04:10:43,877 --> 04:10:45,111 so I'd like to give your eyes a break 5377 04:10:45,111 --> 04:10:46,679 as I'm going to turn and face audience. 5378 04:10:46,679 --> 04:10:49,683 I'd like to speak to the people, if you don't mind. 5379 04:10:51,151 --> 04:10:53,620 Good evening, everybody, and thank you so much for being here 5380 04:10:53,620 --> 04:10:56,623 and taking the time to really stand for what's right. 5381 04:10:57,290 --> 04:10:58,591 My name is Thomas. 5382 04:10:58,591 --> 04:11:00,760 My last name is skipper. 5383 04:11:00,760 --> 04:11:04,230 In Spanish, that roughly translates to Thomas El Capitan, 5384 04:11:04,230 --> 04:11:07,233 which is ironic since I'm afraid of the ocean. 5385 04:11:08,835 --> 04:11:10,503 I digress. 5386 04:11:10,503 --> 04:11:13,306 My family has been here so long 5387 04:11:13,306 --> 04:11:16,376 that my mom, who just celebrated her 73rd 5388 04:11:16,376 --> 04:11:19,713 birthday, was a graduate from Dysart High School. 5389 04:11:21,681 --> 04:11:23,416 To be clear, 5390 04:11:23,416 --> 04:11:26,419 I stand with all of you here tonight. 5391 04:11:26,486 --> 04:11:28,888 I have a different opinion of immigrants and who they 5392 04:11:28,888 --> 04:11:29,589 are as people. 5393 04:11:31,458 --> 04:11:32,425 When I was without a home 5394 04:11:32,425 --> 04:11:35,695 in my 20s, it was an immigrant who invited me into theirs 5395 04:11:36,162 --> 04:11:39,165 and provided me with clothing, housing and food. 5396 04:11:39,999 --> 04:11:43,002 Something we should be doing for them. 5397 04:11:43,370 --> 04:11:44,604 The purpose of the government 5398 04:11:44,604 --> 04:11:47,607 and councils like this is to 5399 04:11:47,607 --> 04:11:50,377 serve the people and promote prosperity, 5400 04:11:50,377 --> 04:11:53,380 not cages them in a warehouse. 5401 04:11:54,013 --> 04:11:56,816 The voice of the people is their vote. 5402 04:11:56,816 --> 04:11:59,185 I didn't vote for this. 5403 04:11:59,185 --> 04:12:02,188 I know you didn't. 5404 04:12:02,188 --> 04:12:03,923 To allow $7 million 5405 04:12:03,923 --> 04:12:07,894 spent without public support strips us of the choice 5406 04:12:08,862 --> 04:12:10,997 and sets a much different tone 5407 04:12:10,997 --> 04:12:14,000 for our country, for our cities. 5408 04:12:14,634 --> 04:12:17,203 We must reject that 5409 04:12:17,203 --> 04:12:18,872 council respectfully. 5410 04:12:18,872 --> 04:12:20,473 We don't want to hear that you can't do anything. 5411 04:12:20,473 --> 04:12:24,611 Because if you don't, we will see whether in 5412 04:12:26,146 --> 04:12:27,814 Phoenix is not just our capital. 5413 04:12:27,814 --> 04:12:30,684 It's a bird of fire, a symbol of resurrection and renewal. 5414 04:12:31,885 --> 04:12:34,454 Residents, the surprise and Arizona 5415 04:12:34,454 --> 04:12:37,257 were no stranger to traffic here. 5416 04:12:37,257 --> 04:12:38,191 I can barely get to work 5417 04:12:38,191 --> 04:12:40,293 the morning, and I live maybe six miles away. 5418 04:12:40,293 --> 04:12:42,662 It takes me an hour. 5419 04:12:42,662 --> 04:12:44,964 If and when Ice detention starts up, 5420 04:12:44,964 --> 04:12:48,868 may I suggest a Sunday drive around that block, a Monday 5421 04:12:48,868 --> 04:12:51,871 drive, a Tuesday drive or an everyday drive? 5422 04:12:53,139 --> 04:12:53,940 The time has come. 5423 04:12:53,940 --> 04:12:55,375 Regardless of your imaginary 5424 04:12:55,375 --> 04:12:58,378 city lines to rise like the Phoenix. 5425 04:12:58,545 --> 04:13:01,548 Have passion and fire in your heart, not ice. 5426 04:13:08,121 --> 04:13:11,124 What do you mean, sir? 5427 04:13:12,525 --> 04:13:15,128 Good evening, mayor, city council and city staff. 5428 04:13:15,128 --> 04:13:17,230 My name is Mark Camarena. 5429 04:13:17,230 --> 04:13:20,233 I'm a a neighbor from the city of Phoenix. 5430 04:13:20,266 --> 04:13:22,502 I'm also a son of immigrants. 5431 04:13:22,502 --> 04:13:25,505 So this issue is quite personal to me. 5432 04:13:26,506 --> 04:13:29,509 I think everyone has really shared 5433 04:13:30,076 --> 04:13:33,079 how they truly feel about this detention center. 5434 04:13:33,313 --> 04:13:36,316 And, you know, most of the folks here 5435 04:13:37,017 --> 04:13:39,252 clearly care so much about their community here. 5436 04:13:39,252 --> 04:13:40,987 Surprise. They don't want to see 5437 04:13:40,987 --> 04:13:42,989 a detention center being built here. 5438 04:13:42,989 --> 04:13:43,790 A detention center 5439 04:13:43,790 --> 04:13:46,926 that will only bring chaos, will only bring suffering here 5440 04:13:47,494 --> 04:13:50,397 to a community that has shown their pride 5441 04:13:50,397 --> 04:13:53,066 and has shown how beautiful their parks are. 5442 04:13:53,066 --> 04:13:54,300 You guys should be proud 5443 04:13:54,300 --> 04:13:55,668 of what you've been able to accomplish 5444 04:13:55,668 --> 04:13:57,637 in building in this city a surprise. 5445 04:13:57,637 --> 04:13:58,238 You don't 5446 04:13:58,238 --> 04:14:01,908 want to tarnish your legacy by putting a detention center 5447 04:14:02,008 --> 04:14:05,011 that threatens our community, that threatens 5448 04:14:05,078 --> 04:14:07,013 Dysart High School. 5449 04:14:07,013 --> 04:14:10,350 Many, many mothers are enrolling their kids 5450 04:14:10,350 --> 04:14:13,253 into these recreational programs at your parks. 5451 04:14:13,253 --> 04:14:14,688 The last thing you guys would want 5452 04:14:14,688 --> 04:14:15,689 is for mothers 5453 04:14:15,689 --> 04:14:18,458 to pull their kids out, because they don't feel safe 5454 04:14:18,458 --> 04:14:19,626 sending their kids to the park, 5455 04:14:19,626 --> 04:14:22,595 because ice is roaming around, because these ice thugs 5456 04:14:22,595 --> 04:14:24,164 are roaming around in the streets. 5457 04:14:25,298 --> 04:14:27,967 You know, Council member Jack Hastings spoke about 5458 04:14:27,967 --> 04:14:32,338 he lauded the Arizona Corporate Commission for not overstepping 5459 04:14:32,639 --> 04:14:35,642 and, letting local government do their job. 5460 04:14:35,742 --> 04:14:38,845 Well, I implore you, sir, and everyone here to do your job 5461 04:14:39,112 --> 04:14:41,948 and to actually fight back, to take a stand. 5462 04:14:41,948 --> 04:14:44,818 To riddle the Department of Homeland Security 5463 04:14:44,818 --> 04:14:46,319 with as much paperwork as possible. 5464 04:14:46,319 --> 04:14:50,023 And to really take a, a, a line, a hard stance, 5465 04:14:50,557 --> 04:14:53,093 because history has already drawn the lines. 5466 04:14:53,093 --> 04:14:56,029 You guys had the choice of where you want to stand in that, 5467 04:14:56,029 --> 04:14:58,465 and you have you are responsible for your own legacy 5468 04:14:58,465 --> 04:15:01,167 that you are leaving here in surprise. 5469 04:15:01,167 --> 04:15:04,204 Arizona remembers very clearly the stain 5470 04:15:04,437 --> 04:15:07,407 that was left by the Japanese internment camps 5471 04:15:07,407 --> 04:15:09,476 in the Gila River and passed on. 5472 04:15:09,476 --> 04:15:12,479 We don't want to repeat that history here in Arizona anymore. 5473 04:15:12,712 --> 04:15:13,947 We are better than that. 5474 04:15:15,081 --> 04:15:17,684 And I know the people here understand that. 5475 04:15:17,684 --> 04:15:20,687 In fact, how many of you raise your hands, 5476 04:15:21,121 --> 04:15:24,157 are in favor of ice being out of surprise, 5477 04:15:25,959 --> 04:15:26,426 folks. 5478 04:15:26,426 --> 04:15:28,128 That is people power right there. 5479 04:15:28,128 --> 04:15:29,763 That is the power of your constituents. 5480 04:15:29,763 --> 04:15:31,664 And more people are coming to that realization 5481 04:15:31,664 --> 04:15:32,966 that they do have power 5482 04:15:32,966 --> 04:15:34,868 if they come together and bend together. 5483 04:15:34,868 --> 04:15:36,870 Whether y'all choose to recognize it or not, 5484 04:15:36,870 --> 04:15:39,239 it's up to you. But it's happening. 5485 04:15:39,239 --> 04:15:43,143 And the people of surprise have the power to shut it down 5486 04:15:43,576 --> 04:15:45,945 and to start the city back up, because it's the workers, 5487 04:15:45,945 --> 04:15:48,481 it's the people, the city that actually make this run. 5488 04:15:48,481 --> 04:15:51,484 Thank you so much. 5489 04:15:53,787 --> 04:15:56,756 You. I'd like to call a few more names, please. 5490 04:15:56,923 --> 04:15:59,926 Sean McKeever. 5491 04:16:00,093 --> 04:16:01,995 Oh, what a what? 5492 04:16:01,995 --> 04:16:03,329 Blanch Brampton. 5493 04:16:05,098 --> 04:16:07,167 Joanne Miller. 5494 04:16:07,167 --> 04:16:09,669 Joshua. Oh. 5495 04:16:09,669 --> 04:16:12,072 Thank you. Good evening. 5496 04:16:12,072 --> 04:16:13,006 Okay. Hello. 5497 04:16:13,006 --> 04:16:15,442 My name is Juan here, and I'm from Phoenix. 5498 04:16:15,442 --> 04:16:16,910 It is very concerning 5499 04:16:16,910 --> 04:16:19,612 that such a detention center is being built near me. 5500 04:16:19,612 --> 04:16:21,881 So let me speak about my opinions on it. 5501 04:16:21,881 --> 04:16:23,249 So the City of Surprised said 5502 04:16:23,249 --> 04:16:25,285 that they put out a statement saying that federal projects 5503 04:16:25,285 --> 04:16:27,153 do not have to abide by local zoning laws. 5504 04:16:27,153 --> 04:16:27,487 To me, 5505 04:16:27,487 --> 04:16:30,223 it sounds like the City of Surprise is not willing 5506 04:16:30,223 --> 04:16:32,759 to protect its residents when the federal government 5507 04:16:32,759 --> 04:16:34,728 does something that violates human rights. 5508 04:16:34,728 --> 04:16:37,230 We have seen the deaths of Alex Prairie. 5509 04:16:37,230 --> 04:16:38,131 Rene. Good. 5510 04:16:38,131 --> 04:16:39,866 We have seen a five year old girl. 5511 04:16:39,866 --> 04:16:40,834 Even though she's a citizen, 5512 04:16:40,834 --> 04:16:43,470 be deported to Honduras at the hands of ice. 5513 04:16:43,470 --> 04:16:45,171 Ice may be a federal agency. 5514 04:16:45,171 --> 04:16:47,374 But is it okay to allow them to do whatever they want 5515 04:16:47,374 --> 04:16:49,743 just because they're a federal agency? 5516 04:16:49,743 --> 04:16:53,446 The ACLU that is American civil, like a Civil Liberties 5517 04:16:53,446 --> 04:16:56,549 Union, has documented various human rights violations. 5518 04:16:56,816 --> 04:16:59,819 I can't I camp East Montana Ice detention center 5519 04:17:00,020 --> 04:17:02,989 near Fort Bliss in El Paso, Texas. 5520 04:17:02,989 --> 04:17:05,458 They interviewed 45 people who gave their testimonies. 5521 04:17:05,458 --> 04:17:07,427 You've heard similar testimonies today 5522 04:17:09,329 --> 04:17:12,432 about people who are live in cramped, squalid pods. 5523 04:17:12,465 --> 04:17:15,035 They're not given adequate nutrition or medical care. 5524 04:17:15,035 --> 04:17:18,038 They've been physically and sexually abused by Ice agents 5525 04:17:18,171 --> 04:17:19,172 in the last six weeks. 5526 04:17:19,172 --> 04:17:22,108 Three people have died at Fort Bliss. 5527 04:17:22,108 --> 04:17:24,577 Is this what you want? Surprise! 5528 04:17:24,577 --> 04:17:27,580 This warehouse is near Dysart and some other schools. 5529 04:17:27,981 --> 04:17:31,518 And you are putting children at risk for local ice terror. 5530 04:17:31,685 --> 04:17:34,521 I implore the City Council to investigate what can be done. 5531 04:17:34,521 --> 04:17:37,857 And as we've heard many times tonight, Kansas City, many 5532 04:17:37,857 --> 04:17:40,827 other places are trying their best to deter them. 5533 04:17:40,927 --> 04:17:44,397 So even if we can't legally deter them, 5534 04:17:44,397 --> 04:17:48,902 I implore you to speak your voice, denounce ice evil, 5535 04:17:48,902 --> 04:17:51,404 and show the show what the moral character 5536 04:17:51,404 --> 04:17:53,339 and type of surprise is all about. Thank you. 5537 04:17:58,611 --> 04:18:00,413 Good evening. 5538 04:18:00,413 --> 04:18:01,948 Good evening. 5539 04:18:01,948 --> 04:18:03,416 My name is Kayla Basham. 5540 04:18:03,416 --> 04:18:04,551 I've lived in Surprise 5541 04:18:04,551 --> 04:18:06,319 Farms community since I was the age of 5542 04:18:06,319 --> 04:18:09,122 eight years old, so almost 22 years ago. 5543 04:18:09,122 --> 04:18:10,423 I love surprises so much. 5544 04:18:10,423 --> 04:18:11,858 I am deciding to raise my daughter 5545 04:18:11,858 --> 04:18:14,127 and surprise with my husband, who has also been 5546 04:18:14,127 --> 04:18:16,930 a resident of surprise for 15 years. 5547 04:18:16,930 --> 04:18:18,465 We have roots in this community. 5548 04:18:18,465 --> 04:18:20,200 We were raised in this community. 5549 04:18:20,200 --> 04:18:22,235 We did not decide to raise our daughter here 5550 04:18:22,235 --> 04:18:23,903 with the anticipation that there would be 5551 04:18:23,903 --> 04:18:26,906 a detention center right around the corner from us. 5552 04:18:27,006 --> 04:18:29,609 This is not the place to introduce the violence 5553 04:18:29,609 --> 04:18:33,713 and vengeance that follows Ice and DHS agents surprises 5554 04:18:33,713 --> 04:18:35,215 a multitude of communities 5555 04:18:35,215 --> 04:18:38,585 blended together with families from all walks of life. 5556 04:18:39,019 --> 04:18:40,553 This will disrupt our community 5557 04:18:40,553 --> 04:18:42,989 and turn our community into something that it's not. 5558 04:18:42,989 --> 04:18:45,025 We need to prioritize 5559 04:18:45,025 --> 04:18:47,560 making surprise and surrounding areas sanctuary 5560 04:18:47,560 --> 04:18:50,497 sanctuary cities so that we can keep surprise 5561 04:18:50,497 --> 04:18:53,500 family oriented, not fear oriented. 5562 04:18:53,967 --> 04:18:56,102 As a school based therapies to five years, 5563 04:18:56,102 --> 04:18:57,303 I am seeing the impact 5564 04:18:57,303 --> 04:19:00,473 of the current administration, including Ice and DHS, 5565 04:19:00,940 --> 04:19:03,543 has had on children and adolescents, 5566 04:19:03,543 --> 04:19:05,345 including anxiety and depression. 5567 04:19:05,345 --> 04:19:08,048 From the immense fear and hopelessness 5568 04:19:08,048 --> 04:19:09,783 for themselves, their families, 5569 04:19:09,783 --> 04:19:11,685 and their respective communities. 5570 04:19:11,685 --> 04:19:13,787 Even as citizens of the United States. 5571 04:19:15,955 --> 04:19:19,025 Intense fear and hopelessness regarding being detained, 5572 04:19:19,025 --> 04:19:20,994 harassed or deported 5573 04:19:20,994 --> 04:19:23,997 based solely on how they and their families look or talk. 5574 04:19:24,631 --> 04:19:27,534 These detention facilities do not belong in surprise 5575 04:19:27,534 --> 04:19:30,570 or anywhere, especially their elementary and high schools. 5576 04:19:31,905 --> 04:19:34,441 We have seen firsthand that the protests can become 5577 04:19:34,441 --> 04:19:36,242 violent and lives can be lost. 5578 04:19:36,242 --> 04:19:39,612 We can expect protests outside of these detention facilities, 5579 04:19:40,046 --> 04:19:43,083 and if there were to be gun violence that transpires, 5580 04:19:43,083 --> 04:19:46,019 as we have seen in Minnesota by agents, 5581 04:19:46,019 --> 04:19:48,822 we will see a disruption of a school day 5582 04:19:48,822 --> 04:19:50,623 when schools go into lockdown. 5583 04:19:50,623 --> 04:19:51,758 We will see children 5584 04:19:51,758 --> 04:19:53,593 who are already afraid to go to school, 5585 04:19:53,593 --> 04:19:56,029 not knowing if there will be gun violence. 5586 04:19:56,029 --> 04:19:59,032 And now, sorry. 5587 04:19:59,032 --> 04:20:01,835 Gun violence and now being detained 5588 04:20:01,835 --> 04:20:03,370 declined going to school. 5589 04:20:03,370 --> 04:20:04,738 And when we don't have students 5590 04:20:04,738 --> 04:20:06,673 in our schools, what happens to those schools? 5591 04:20:06,673 --> 04:20:08,875 There is a long list of not what ifs, 5592 04:20:08,875 --> 04:20:12,445 but went to consider as a result of this detention center. 5593 04:20:13,246 --> 04:20:15,982 I am also asking, in addition to making surprise, 5594 04:20:15,982 --> 04:20:18,284 a sanctuary city, that if we are not able 5595 04:20:18,284 --> 04:20:21,287 to stop these warehouses from becoming detention centers, 5596 04:20:21,454 --> 04:20:23,156 that surprise takes extra care 5597 04:20:23,156 --> 04:20:24,758 to make sure that these facilities 5598 04:20:24,758 --> 04:20:27,227 are meeting requirements for regulation. 5599 04:20:27,227 --> 04:20:29,029 As there have been several media reports 5600 04:20:29,029 --> 04:20:29,529 stating that 5601 04:20:29,529 --> 04:20:32,799 some detention facilities do not have running water 5602 04:20:32,799 --> 04:20:35,635 and are not properly conditioned or heated, 5603 04:20:35,635 --> 04:20:37,003 among other concerns. 5604 04:20:37,003 --> 04:20:39,005 I am asking you to hold DHS 5605 04:20:39,005 --> 04:20:41,007 and Ice accountable to treat those detained 5606 04:20:41,007 --> 04:20:44,010 with dignity and respect as the humans that they are. 5607 04:20:44,177 --> 04:20:47,981 Just like you, me, people that lean right and lean left. 5608 04:20:48,214 --> 04:20:50,517 Doctor Martin Luther King Jr said it best. 5609 04:20:50,517 --> 04:20:53,520 Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. 5610 04:20:53,987 --> 04:20:56,656 I am asking you whom we have voted for in the best 5611 04:20:56,656 --> 04:20:57,691 interest of surprise. 5612 04:20:57,691 --> 04:20:59,359 Please do what you can to prevent 5613 04:20:59,359 --> 04:21:02,829 this detention facility being placed in our backyards. 5614 04:21:03,229 --> 04:21:06,399 Thank you for letting me take the time to do to speak. 5615 04:21:06,599 --> 04:21:08,101 Immigrants make America great. 5616 04:21:13,573 --> 04:21:14,708 Good evening. 5617 04:21:14,708 --> 04:21:17,711 Good evening, and thank you for greeting us all. 5618 04:21:17,844 --> 04:21:19,979 Dozens of us. Almost 200. 5619 04:21:19,979 --> 04:21:20,747 There's a lot of us. 5620 04:21:20,747 --> 04:21:22,816 And I hope you've heard us. 5621 04:21:22,816 --> 04:21:24,117 And continue to hear us. 5622 04:21:24,117 --> 04:21:26,186 Thank you for being here this late. 5623 04:21:26,186 --> 04:21:29,189 Almost tomorrow. 5624 04:21:29,789 --> 04:21:31,591 My name is Taylor Warren. 5625 04:21:31,591 --> 04:21:34,094 I'm a constituent of district one. 5626 04:21:34,094 --> 04:21:37,097 My cross streets are 1/47 and Happy Valley. 5627 04:21:37,230 --> 04:21:39,065 I'm a small business owner. 5628 04:21:39,065 --> 04:21:42,068 I am born and raised in Arizona. 5629 04:21:43,937 --> 04:21:45,171 And I'm a homeowner. 5630 04:21:45,171 --> 04:21:48,174 I think those are my relevant qualifications. 5631 04:21:52,278 --> 04:21:53,380 I thank you for listening, 5632 04:21:53,380 --> 04:21:55,615 but I want to do it again because I really appreciate it. 5633 04:21:55,615 --> 04:21:58,351 You've made eye contact. 5634 04:21:58,351 --> 04:21:59,953 I haven't seen 5635 04:21:59,953 --> 04:22:03,056 you shaking your head at certain people or thumbs up. 5636 04:22:03,056 --> 04:22:05,458 And others like you've really given us a chance to speak. 5637 04:22:05,458 --> 04:22:05,959 Thank you. 5638 04:22:09,195 --> 04:22:12,132 And I don't envy your position. 5639 04:22:12,132 --> 04:22:15,201 You've had a lot to listen to, and I'm grateful that 5640 04:22:16,403 --> 04:22:18,671 what I would consider to be the most important points 5641 04:22:18,671 --> 04:22:22,108 or points that you have heard again and again and again. 5642 04:22:22,242 --> 04:22:27,547 And what I ask you to do is to remember them and remember us. 5643 04:22:28,448 --> 04:22:31,051 Because if you're like me, you'll go home and get on line 5644 04:22:31,051 --> 04:22:32,986 before you go to bed and scroll through your phone, 5645 04:22:32,986 --> 04:22:35,989 and you might see the post from the City of Surprise 5646 04:22:36,189 --> 04:22:37,557 that I saw before I came here, 5647 04:22:37,557 --> 04:22:39,826 and the post that launched me here, 5648 04:22:39,826 --> 04:22:40,593 because I saw 5649 04:22:40,593 --> 04:22:44,431 a long list of people saying, yeah, let's have this facility. 5650 04:22:44,464 --> 04:22:47,067 This is great, this is awesome, let's do this. 5651 04:22:47,067 --> 04:22:48,868 But that's not what I'm hearing here 5652 04:22:48,868 --> 04:22:50,670 from the people who are showing up 5653 04:22:51,671 --> 04:22:53,740 and the people who are present, 5654 04:22:53,740 --> 04:22:56,743 and the people who will continue to be present and show up. 5655 04:23:04,651 --> 04:23:06,886 I hope 5656 04:23:06,886 --> 04:23:09,989 that you will carry the words tonight with you moving forward. 5657 04:23:11,124 --> 04:23:14,060 Because this is just the beginning, 5658 04:23:14,060 --> 04:23:17,063 and I. 5659 04:23:17,497 --> 04:23:20,500 Again, don't envy the pressure that you're under. 5660 04:23:20,767 --> 04:23:24,437 And I want you to hear not only the true words from 5661 04:23:24,437 --> 04:23:27,440 the people that have spoken before me and will speak after, 5662 04:23:28,108 --> 04:23:31,077 but also here that we're here for you. 5663 04:23:31,244 --> 04:23:32,779 We're here to help. 5664 04:23:32,779 --> 04:23:34,948 We're here to stop this together. 5665 04:23:34,948 --> 04:23:37,917 This facility that is being proposed. And, 5666 04:23:38,818 --> 04:23:42,155 in, building that is completely inappropriate 5667 04:23:42,155 --> 04:23:45,158 for that. 5668 04:23:46,126 --> 04:23:47,127 I wrote something down 5669 04:23:47,127 --> 04:23:49,029 that has already been said a bunch of times. 5670 04:23:49,029 --> 04:23:51,564 So here's what I will say. 5671 04:23:51,564 --> 04:23:53,967 Some of the things that you have or your background 5672 04:23:53,967 --> 04:23:55,535 in public safety. 5673 04:23:55,535 --> 04:23:57,470 You know, we can do better than this. 5674 04:23:57,470 --> 04:24:00,807 And, there are lots of experts who are ready to speak up 5675 04:24:00,807 --> 04:24:03,777 and help you come up with ideas. 5676 04:24:03,777 --> 04:24:05,278 You have media platforms. 5677 04:24:05,278 --> 04:24:06,913 You have your positions within government 5678 04:24:06,913 --> 04:24:10,817 that we don't have to talk to people and to make change. 5679 04:24:10,917 --> 04:24:13,887 You have that power, whether you recognize it or not. 5680 04:24:14,154 --> 04:24:20,460 And so we are very happy to hear our people in leadership 5681 04:24:20,727 --> 04:24:24,297 ask for help from the people who put you in office, 5682 04:24:24,297 --> 04:24:27,267 because we want to help make surprise safe. 5683 04:24:27,434 --> 04:24:27,834 Thank you. 5684 04:24:33,406 --> 04:24:35,975 I'd like to call a couple more names. 5685 04:24:35,975 --> 04:24:37,744 Kelly. Great. 5686 04:24:37,744 --> 04:24:40,480 Donna horn, Sean. 5687 04:24:40,480 --> 04:24:43,016 Salazar. 5688 04:24:43,016 --> 04:24:44,651 That one doesn't have a name for coming. 5689 04:24:44,651 --> 04:24:47,320 More names to a hill. 5690 04:24:47,320 --> 04:24:49,756 Have about 20. 5691 04:24:49,756 --> 04:24:51,658 Can you just read them all, please? 5692 04:24:51,658 --> 04:24:53,226 Sure. 5693 04:24:53,226 --> 04:24:56,029 Stephanie Rios, 5694 04:24:56,029 --> 04:24:58,498 Erin Flores, you can sit down as we move. 5695 04:24:58,498 --> 04:25:01,334 For as deadline gets shorter, you can move up. 5696 04:25:01,334 --> 04:25:02,702 You have to stand up right now. 5697 04:25:02,702 --> 04:25:05,705 Jeffrey Haller or Holland, possibly 5698 04:25:07,107 --> 04:25:09,776 Caleb Brown, 5699 04:25:09,776 --> 04:25:12,512 Eva Osuna, 5700 04:25:12,512 --> 04:25:15,415 Vince Mendez, 5701 04:25:15,415 --> 04:25:18,418 Richard McFarlane. 5702 04:25:19,219 --> 04:25:20,220 We just. Oh, funny. 5703 04:25:20,220 --> 04:25:23,189 Connie Adams. 5704 04:25:23,189 --> 04:25:24,357 Sylvia Asta 5705 04:25:24,357 --> 04:25:27,861 Rico or our senator Lorraine. 5706 04:25:28,061 --> 04:25:29,929 Luke. 5707 04:25:29,929 --> 04:25:32,932 John Bachman. 5708 04:25:34,601 --> 04:25:37,604 In, without a last name. 5709 04:25:38,038 --> 04:25:39,806 Mark Graham. 5710 04:25:39,806 --> 04:25:42,809 Sharon Rodriguez. 5711 04:25:42,809 --> 04:25:44,878 Cameron Klein. 5712 04:25:44,878 --> 04:25:49,015 Josiah's last initial f Mary Elena. 5713 04:25:49,516 --> 04:25:51,151 Aguirre, 5714 04:25:51,151 --> 04:25:53,153 Sofia Rios, 5715 04:25:53,153 --> 04:25:53,653 Isaac. 5716 04:25:53,653 --> 04:25:56,189 Barrio and Jean. 5717 04:25:56,189 --> 04:25:57,957 I think it's a roll list. 5718 04:25:57,957 --> 04:25:59,793 And I have one that doesn't have a name on it. 5719 04:25:59,793 --> 04:26:01,628 Or if I didn't call your name. 5720 04:26:01,628 --> 04:26:03,096 When we get towards the end, please raise your hand. 5721 04:26:04,831 --> 04:26:07,200 Thank you. 5722 04:26:07,200 --> 04:26:09,869 Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. 5723 04:26:09,869 --> 04:26:14,140 I am I am here to represent myself and my deceased husband 5724 04:26:14,140 --> 04:26:17,143 who served 30 years in the United States Air Force 5725 04:26:17,377 --> 04:26:20,080 and, taught me and my children more about 5726 04:26:20,080 --> 04:26:23,083 patriotism and community, 5727 04:26:23,383 --> 04:26:24,551 than anybody else. 5728 04:26:24,551 --> 04:26:28,221 He taught us there was no color or religion in a foxhole. 5729 04:26:28,221 --> 04:26:31,491 That was his favorite, saying. 5730 04:26:31,725 --> 04:26:33,960 Anyway, if he had seen what was going on 5731 04:26:33,960 --> 04:26:37,163 in this country right now, he would be beside himself. 5732 04:26:37,163 --> 04:26:39,466 So I'm here to speak for him as well. 5733 04:26:39,466 --> 04:26:41,768 His last deployment was at Luke Air Force Base, 5734 04:26:41,768 --> 04:26:45,238 and that's what made us choose surprise as a place to retire. 5735 04:26:45,638 --> 04:26:48,575 We thought this was a safe, beautiful community, 5736 04:26:48,575 --> 04:26:50,043 and he loved to play golf 5737 04:26:50,043 --> 04:26:51,044 and everything was here 5738 04:26:51,044 --> 04:26:52,779 that we were going to need in retirement. 5739 04:26:52,779 --> 04:26:55,048 We loved it so much that we convinced our children 5740 04:26:55,048 --> 04:26:56,983 and our grandchildren to move here, 5741 04:26:56,983 --> 04:26:59,652 because this was going to be a safe place to raise children. 5742 04:27:00,687 --> 04:27:01,955 That's changed, and it's all 5743 04:27:01,955 --> 04:27:04,958 changed in a very, very short time. 5744 04:27:05,125 --> 04:27:07,594 I watched and followed a lot of these detention 5745 04:27:07,594 --> 04:27:09,496 camp places that were trying to be built in 5746 04:27:09,496 --> 04:27:12,832 Oklahoma and Maryland and Virginia and San Antonio, 5747 04:27:13,366 --> 04:27:15,969 and those communities knew that they were coming in 5748 04:27:15,969 --> 04:27:18,338 to buy these properties before they were bought. 5749 04:27:18,338 --> 04:27:20,006 They put pressure on the realtors. 5750 04:27:20,006 --> 04:27:22,342 They put pressure on the development companies. 5751 04:27:22,342 --> 04:27:24,544 I find it strange that nobody here knew 5752 04:27:24,544 --> 04:27:26,079 this was going to happen. 5753 04:27:26,079 --> 04:27:28,782 We just wake up one day and find out they've spent 5754 04:27:28,782 --> 04:27:31,918 $78 million on a facility in surprise. 5755 04:27:33,053 --> 04:27:34,287 That's shocking. 5756 04:27:34,287 --> 04:27:37,123 And then there's a letter from the City of Surprise saying, 5757 04:27:37,123 --> 04:27:38,792 we really can't do anything about it. 5758 04:27:38,792 --> 04:27:41,061 It's federal, like your police force is there. 5759 04:27:41,061 --> 04:27:42,629 Well, our police force has always been here. 5760 04:27:42,629 --> 04:27:44,631 Our police force has been great. 5761 04:27:44,631 --> 04:27:48,234 We've had great, great public servants in this city. 5762 04:27:48,568 --> 04:27:50,937 It's been a wonderful place to live. 5763 04:27:50,937 --> 04:27:53,506 It's not going to be that anywhere if that continues 5764 04:27:53,506 --> 04:27:54,607 to happen. 5765 04:27:54,607 --> 04:27:57,610 I'm not a politician and I'm not an attorney, 5766 04:27:57,911 --> 04:28:01,347 but you guys are all connected one way or another. 5767 04:28:01,548 --> 04:28:03,083 There's got to be a loophole. 5768 04:28:03,083 --> 04:28:05,018 There's got to be a zoning ordinance. 5769 04:28:05,018 --> 04:28:07,520 There's got to be a contract that can be withheld. 5770 04:28:07,520 --> 04:28:09,389 There's got to be something that can be done 5771 04:28:09,389 --> 04:28:11,624 to stop this from happening in this community. 5772 04:28:13,193 --> 04:28:13,693 It's up to 5773 04:28:13,693 --> 04:28:17,697 you, but we're all behind you, and we'll all support you. 5774 04:28:17,697 --> 04:28:20,266 And we'll all do anything we can to help. 5775 04:28:20,266 --> 04:28:21,801 But you've got to lead the way, 5776 04:28:21,801 --> 04:28:24,804 and I'm going to leave it at your doorstep to lead the way. 5777 04:28:25,038 --> 04:28:26,873 Thank you for your time. Thank you. 5778 04:28:26,873 --> 04:28:28,942 Ma'am, can I have your name, please, ma'am? 5779 04:28:28,942 --> 04:28:30,343 Ma'am? Ma'am. 5780 04:28:30,343 --> 04:28:31,845 Your name, please, Blanch Branton. 5781 04:28:31,845 --> 04:28:34,848 Okay. Thank you. Ma'am. 5782 04:28:34,881 --> 04:28:35,715 One. One second. 5783 04:28:35,715 --> 04:28:36,983 Sir, I know we call a lot of names. 5784 04:28:36,983 --> 04:28:37,817 If you wanted to sit down. 5785 04:28:37,817 --> 04:28:39,719 And then as the line is shorter, you can move up. 5786 04:28:39,719 --> 04:28:42,689 I don't want to have you stand for the next 30 minutes. 5787 04:28:43,089 --> 04:28:43,890 Good evening, sir. Yep. 5788 04:28:43,890 --> 04:28:45,692 Good evening. 5789 04:28:45,692 --> 04:28:48,361 Thanks for giving me the time to speak tonight. 5790 04:28:48,361 --> 04:28:49,496 I wanted to say all of your names 5791 04:28:49,496 --> 04:28:51,531 because I want to call all of you to action. 5792 04:28:53,967 --> 04:28:55,335 Andrea Davis, 5793 04:28:55,335 --> 04:28:59,973 Jeff Murray, Jack Hastings, Nick Haney, Earl Greenburg, 5794 04:29:00,473 --> 04:29:04,677 Kevin Sartor, Chris Judge, Patrick Duffy, Johnny Melton. 5795 04:29:05,145 --> 04:29:07,680 You've heard everybody say that we need action, 5796 04:29:07,680 --> 04:29:10,684 and it's great that you're here to listen to our words, 5797 04:29:10,684 --> 04:29:12,519 and we truly appreciate that. 5798 04:29:12,519 --> 04:29:15,522 But we must have action. 5799 04:29:16,122 --> 04:29:17,691 Just like a lot of people said. 5800 04:29:17,691 --> 04:29:21,227 I read what was put out as a press release from my city, 5801 04:29:21,961 --> 04:29:24,297 and it was very disheartening. 5802 04:29:24,297 --> 04:29:27,100 So action is the key. 5803 04:29:27,100 --> 04:29:29,469 My name is Sean McKeever and I am angry 5804 04:29:29,469 --> 04:29:30,637 you might be able to tell that. 5805 04:29:30,637 --> 04:29:33,673 And some of that anger is actually now directed to you, 5806 04:29:34,541 --> 04:29:38,378 but it's a positive anger is an anger meant to make change. 5807 04:29:38,645 --> 04:29:40,847 That's what we need. 5808 04:29:40,847 --> 04:29:44,184 Our family has lived in surprise for over 20 years. 5809 04:29:44,184 --> 04:29:45,919 We're close to Cactus in Litchfield. 5810 04:29:47,187 --> 04:29:49,255 We raised two amazing children here. 5811 04:29:49,255 --> 04:29:51,858 They went to all desert public schools. 5812 04:29:51,858 --> 04:29:53,460 They were amazing. 5813 04:29:53,460 --> 04:29:55,762 They're amazing adults. 5814 04:29:55,762 --> 04:29:58,365 During that time, those 20 years surprise population 5815 04:29:58,365 --> 04:30:01,267 went from 80,000 humans to 160,000. 5816 04:30:01,267 --> 04:30:04,671 Humans doubled and that's awesome, right? 5817 04:30:04,671 --> 04:30:08,074 And I will say that overall, we feel like the surprise 5818 04:30:08,074 --> 04:30:10,076 leaders have done a really good job. 5819 04:30:10,076 --> 04:30:13,046 You've done a good job providing great services, 5820 04:30:13,046 --> 04:30:16,049 to all the surprise humans, good education, 5821 04:30:16,049 --> 04:30:19,019 many things are moving in amazing directions. 5822 04:30:19,886 --> 04:30:21,755 So the past has been good. 5823 04:30:21,755 --> 04:30:24,824 But right now you all the names that I read, 5824 04:30:25,058 --> 04:30:26,326 you are the leaders of surprise. 5825 04:30:26,326 --> 04:30:28,661 You have the biggest challenge in front of you right now. 5826 04:30:28,661 --> 04:30:30,897 This is the biggest challenge I can remember the whole time 5827 04:30:30,897 --> 04:30:31,798 I've been here, 5828 04:30:31,798 --> 04:30:34,768 and it's up to you to decide how to deal with it. 5829 04:30:34,801 --> 04:30:37,137 How will you respond to our federal government 5830 04:30:37,137 --> 04:30:40,106 opening the Trump ice prison in our city? 5831 04:30:40,106 --> 04:30:42,008 Because that's what it is. 5832 04:30:42,008 --> 04:30:44,177 How will you respond to the federal government 5833 04:30:44,177 --> 04:30:46,813 opening the Trump Ice prison in our city? 5834 04:30:49,149 --> 04:30:52,152 Mr. mayor, I disagree with the statement you read. 5835 04:30:52,419 --> 04:30:56,089 That's the city of surprises, powerless because of the rules 5836 04:30:56,322 --> 04:30:59,759 that the federal government can override the local zoning laws. 5837 04:31:00,026 --> 04:31:02,529 As many people have said, other cities have done this. 5838 04:31:02,529 --> 04:31:03,530 We can do it too. 5839 04:31:03,530 --> 04:31:04,431 We can do it as well. 5840 04:31:04,431 --> 04:31:07,200 Together, we are here to work with you. 5841 04:31:07,200 --> 04:31:08,935 All these people want to support your efforts. 5842 04:31:08,935 --> 04:31:10,737 That's what we want. 5843 04:31:10,737 --> 04:31:13,173 But we need you to take a stand. 5844 04:31:13,173 --> 04:31:15,375 We need all of you to take a stand. 5845 04:31:15,375 --> 04:31:16,242 Please. 5846 04:31:16,242 --> 04:31:18,845 Obviously, the building is not meant for this. 5847 04:31:18,845 --> 04:31:20,146 The zoning isn't meant for that. 5848 04:31:20,146 --> 04:31:24,551 We know that we will not accept this Trump Ice prison. 5849 04:31:24,551 --> 04:31:26,419 We will not accept it. 5850 04:31:26,419 --> 04:31:30,056 So I think what you have before you is a chance to take action. 5851 04:31:30,056 --> 04:31:31,091 Positive action, 5852 04:31:32,826 --> 04:31:35,495 you know, to support us and we are here for you. 5853 04:31:35,495 --> 04:31:38,498 But we need that action and we need it now. 5854 04:31:38,798 --> 04:31:40,767 I'll just end with a quote from Margaret 5855 04:31:40,767 --> 04:31:42,435 Mead, one of my favorite people. 5856 04:31:42,435 --> 04:31:44,437 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, 5857 04:31:44,437 --> 04:31:46,806 committed individuals can change the world. 5858 04:31:46,806 --> 04:31:50,243 Indeed, they are the only ones that ever do. 5859 04:31:56,182 --> 04:31:58,018 If we could please pause for one second. 5860 04:31:58,018 --> 04:31:59,386 I missed called Catherine's 5861 04:31:59,386 --> 04:32:01,788 name a little while ago, and I would like to 5862 04:32:01,788 --> 04:32:03,356 get her a chance to come. 5863 04:32:03,356 --> 04:32:04,824 Oh, Katherine, if you want to come up. 5864 04:32:04,824 --> 04:32:07,827 Because I missed called your name, you can go now. 5865 04:32:08,561 --> 04:32:08,828 Okay? 5866 04:32:08,828 --> 04:32:11,831 Okay. 5867 04:32:12,599 --> 04:32:13,767 Good evening. 5868 04:32:13,767 --> 04:32:15,902 Hello. Hi, my name is Catherine Saber again. 5869 04:32:15,902 --> 04:32:17,604 I'm a resident of Phoenix. 5870 04:32:17,604 --> 04:32:19,873 I've been here for nearly 50 years. 5871 04:32:21,875 --> 04:32:23,309 I have been, 5872 04:32:23,309 --> 04:32:26,546 I watched the Trump administration turn into, 5873 04:32:27,881 --> 04:32:31,117 a despicable regime, an authoritarian regime. 5874 04:32:31,117 --> 04:32:35,522 And they are poisoning this country with their behavior. 5875 04:32:36,423 --> 04:32:37,824 The process 5876 04:32:37,824 --> 04:32:41,194 of creating detention centers in the state of Arizona. 5877 04:32:41,561 --> 04:32:44,564 And now, one in surprise, Arizona 5878 04:32:44,831 --> 04:32:47,834 disgusts me. 5879 04:32:48,201 --> 04:32:50,336 I could not be more angry, 5880 04:32:50,336 --> 04:32:53,339 more disgusted, or more, 5881 04:32:54,240 --> 04:32:55,775 fed up 5882 04:32:55,775 --> 04:32:59,512 with the United States government treating its people 5883 04:32:59,879 --> 04:33:02,882 like they are chattel. 5884 04:33:05,285 --> 04:33:07,253 I urge you, 5885 04:33:07,253 --> 04:33:11,291 all of you, to do your utmost to stop this. 5886 04:33:12,158 --> 04:33:15,161 We need to stand up to this government 5887 04:33:15,695 --> 04:33:18,698 and allowing them to create 5888 04:33:20,367 --> 04:33:23,336 the kind of detention facility 5889 04:33:23,603 --> 04:33:26,606 which is more like. 5890 04:33:28,775 --> 04:33:31,344 It's not even a detention facility. 5891 04:33:31,344 --> 04:33:36,850 It's a disgusting way to house people for no good reason. 5892 04:33:37,617 --> 04:33:40,553 And we should not allow it. 5893 04:33:40,553 --> 04:33:44,124 It is nowhere in Arizona. 5894 04:33:44,424 --> 04:33:48,028 The the Eloy Detention facility houses. 5895 04:33:48,028 --> 04:33:49,529 I don't know how many thousand people 5896 04:33:49,529 --> 04:33:53,266 they have a measles outbreak now because they don't provide 5897 04:33:53,400 --> 04:33:54,901 health care. 5898 04:33:54,901 --> 04:33:57,971 They don't provide any kind of reasonable health care. 5899 04:33:58,438 --> 04:34:00,240 They had peop for people, 5900 04:34:00,240 --> 04:34:02,609 got measles, and now the entire place 5901 04:34:02,609 --> 04:34:04,978 is shut down because it's an epidemic. 5902 04:34:04,978 --> 04:34:08,848 How much longer is it going to be before that spreads out? 5903 04:34:09,482 --> 04:34:11,351 You shouldn't allow this in your city. 5904 04:34:11,351 --> 04:34:12,385 I apologize, 5905 04:34:13,420 --> 04:34:16,189 for my anger. 5906 04:34:16,189 --> 04:34:18,324 And I hope that you will take every effort 5907 04:34:18,324 --> 04:34:20,326 you can to stop this. 5908 04:34:20,326 --> 04:34:21,661 Stand up for yourselves. 5909 04:34:21,661 --> 04:34:24,364 Stand up for your state and for your city. 5910 04:34:24,364 --> 04:34:26,800 Stand up for your constituents. 5911 04:34:26,800 --> 04:34:30,670 We all have to stand up and oppose this nonsense, 5912 04:34:30,870 --> 04:34:33,773 because if we do not, it will spread 5913 04:34:33,773 --> 04:34:36,776 like wildfire throughout the rest of the country. 5914 04:34:36,876 --> 04:34:41,247 We need to be active and and forceful 5915 04:34:41,548 --> 04:34:44,484 in our opposition to what's going on 5916 04:34:44,484 --> 04:34:48,221 in the federal government and it starts at our local level. 5917 04:34:49,022 --> 04:34:51,991 And I appreciate your time, and I appreciate everything 5918 04:34:51,991 --> 04:34:54,994 you're going to do, because I know you will do something. 5919 04:35:00,433 --> 04:35:01,768 Good evening. 5920 04:35:01,768 --> 04:35:03,870 Good evening, and thank you, mayor, vice 5921 04:35:03,870 --> 04:35:07,073 mayor, mayor and council members. 5922 04:35:07,073 --> 04:35:08,675 My name is Donna Horne. 5923 04:35:08,675 --> 04:35:09,809 And when you look in that picture, 5924 04:35:09,809 --> 04:35:10,744 you're going to see where I live. 5925 04:35:10,744 --> 04:35:12,679 Right there on the other side of the university. 5926 04:35:16,816 --> 04:35:19,319 We are a nation of immigrants. 5927 04:35:19,319 --> 04:35:22,322 Many came here to find a better way of life, 5928 04:35:22,489 --> 04:35:25,492 many to pursue the American dream. 5929 04:35:25,592 --> 04:35:28,995 Some may have come after hearing her invitation. 5930 04:35:29,729 --> 04:35:32,465 Give me your tired, your poor, 5931 04:35:32,465 --> 04:35:35,969 your huddled masses yearning to breathe free. 5932 04:35:37,404 --> 04:35:40,874 73 years ago, my dad was in the military, 5933 04:35:41,508 --> 04:35:44,878 stationed just down the road at Luke Air Force Base. 5934 04:35:45,545 --> 04:35:49,349 My sister and I were born there, and we spent most of our youth 5935 04:35:49,349 --> 04:35:52,352 and teenage years in this valley of the sun. 5936 04:35:53,153 --> 04:35:55,588 Back then, I remember this 5937 04:35:55,588 --> 04:36:00,727 area was mostly farmland with acres of citrus 5938 04:36:00,727 --> 04:36:03,730 trees, vegetables and cotton fields. 5939 04:36:04,798 --> 04:36:08,268 An internet search of the history of surprise reads. 5940 04:36:09,002 --> 04:36:13,707 The cotton industry relied heavily on migrant workers, 5941 04:36:14,240 --> 04:36:18,078 especially from Mexico, who lived in labor camps 5942 04:36:18,478 --> 04:36:21,614 during the 1920s to 1940s. 5943 04:36:22,415 --> 04:36:23,149 Think about it. 5944 04:36:24,250 --> 04:36:26,019 Isn't it possible some of 5945 04:36:26,019 --> 04:36:29,389 those migrants from Mexico were undocumented? 5946 04:36:30,657 --> 04:36:33,259 At any rate, those workers 5947 04:36:33,259 --> 04:36:36,696 contributed to the economic growth and success 5948 04:36:37,230 --> 04:36:40,233 of our City of Surprise that we love 5949 04:36:40,433 --> 04:36:43,436 and enjoy today. 5950 04:36:45,372 --> 04:36:48,375 This planned Ice detention facility, 5951 04:36:49,109 --> 04:36:52,312 which, by the way, is located in a neighborhood with family 5952 04:36:52,312 --> 04:36:55,682 homes, small businesses and a high school. 5953 04:36:57,450 --> 04:37:00,453 And ironically. 5954 04:37:01,721 --> 04:37:04,724 Within earshot of passing trains 5955 04:37:06,126 --> 04:37:09,129 is to me a hard no. 5956 04:37:10,797 --> 04:37:13,800 I urge our elected officials to instead 5957 04:37:13,933 --> 04:37:17,370 spend money on legal and administrative policies 5958 04:37:18,104 --> 04:37:20,707 that will lead immigration, immigrants 5959 04:37:20,707 --> 04:37:24,144 on a path to America, American citizenship. 5960 04:37:25,745 --> 04:37:28,348 I believe history will not be kind 5961 04:37:28,348 --> 04:37:31,317 to this administration's immigration policies. 5962 04:37:32,185 --> 04:37:36,990 If we allow this Ice detention facility to operate in surprise, 5963 04:37:37,691 --> 04:37:41,528 the shame of these policies will become a stain 5964 04:37:42,362 --> 04:37:45,065 on our great city's history. 5965 04:37:45,065 --> 04:37:46,199 Thank you. Thank you. 5966 04:37:54,240 --> 04:37:55,875 Good evening, good evening, good night. 5967 04:37:55,875 --> 04:37:58,978 Actually, my name is Estefany Rios. 5968 04:37:58,978 --> 04:38:01,614 My cross streets are Litchfield and Greenway. 5969 04:38:01,614 --> 04:38:03,917 I'm district four. 5970 04:38:03,917 --> 04:38:07,554 And I'm here today as a proud, daughter of immigrants 5971 04:38:08,221 --> 04:38:12,225 who came to this country, worked hard and chose surprise 5972 04:38:12,225 --> 04:38:15,228 as their city to live, and raised me and my sister 5973 04:38:15,295 --> 04:38:16,062 because they felt 5974 04:38:16,062 --> 04:38:18,598 like it was going to be a place where we would be safe. 5975 04:38:18,598 --> 04:38:20,900 And I personally have also chosen 5976 04:38:20,900 --> 04:38:23,970 to stay in the City of Surprise because I too believe 5977 04:38:24,371 --> 04:38:26,606 that this is going to be a place of lots of growth. 5978 04:38:26,606 --> 04:38:29,743 As you know, it's continued to grow recently, 5979 04:38:31,244 --> 04:38:32,779 and continue to provide safety 5980 04:38:32,779 --> 04:38:35,782 for me and my future family. 5981 04:38:36,383 --> 04:38:39,119 But recently, with the news of this warehouse, 5982 04:38:39,119 --> 04:38:42,122 being purchased here, right between 5983 04:38:42,756 --> 04:38:45,959 Desert and Sweetwater Drive, 5984 04:38:46,893 --> 04:38:48,661 it's unfortunate that our city 5985 04:38:48,661 --> 04:38:51,664 has been getting negative media. 5986 04:38:52,599 --> 04:38:54,968 That outshines all the good work that you guys have 5987 04:38:54,968 --> 04:38:57,971 all put together in those before you. 5988 04:38:58,004 --> 04:39:00,907 I will be brief, as many of my constituents 5989 04:39:00,907 --> 04:39:04,544 have been voicing the stats and all the facts 5990 04:39:04,544 --> 04:39:07,647 and all the great information that you all also have 5991 04:39:07,647 --> 04:39:10,617 at the touch of your fingertips on the phone. 5992 04:39:10,617 --> 04:39:11,818 Via Google. 5993 04:39:11,818 --> 04:39:14,487 Don't use I, 5994 04:39:14,487 --> 04:39:16,890 I would like to just say that 5995 04:39:16,890 --> 04:39:20,760 if you are to uphold what surprises for 5996 04:39:21,027 --> 04:39:25,465 I ask of you to please continue to not just stand 5997 04:39:25,465 --> 04:39:28,468 by and say, well, we can't do anything about it. 5998 04:39:28,468 --> 04:39:30,970 Sorry, it's not in our jurisdiction. 5999 04:39:30,970 --> 04:39:32,839 And actually be proactive 6000 04:39:32,839 --> 04:39:35,608 the way that my constituents have been today. 6001 04:39:35,608 --> 04:39:36,743 And I'm so proud of. 6002 04:39:44,617 --> 04:39:46,720 That I would hate 6003 04:39:46,720 --> 04:39:49,723 for surprised to pick up a place. 6004 04:39:51,324 --> 04:39:53,460 You got this. 6005 04:39:53,460 --> 04:39:55,495 I would hate for surprises 6006 04:39:55,495 --> 04:39:58,498 to be a place where, 6007 04:39:59,232 --> 04:40:02,736 The stain of of 6008 04:40:04,070 --> 04:40:06,072 what's going on in Minneapolis 6009 04:40:06,072 --> 04:40:08,641 would play out here as well, 6010 04:40:08,641 --> 04:40:11,644 because that would mean 6011 04:40:12,245 --> 04:40:15,248 the number one. 6012 04:40:15,315 --> 04:40:18,351 This current administration is continuing to win. 6013 04:40:18,351 --> 04:40:20,820 And their agenda and number two, 6014 04:40:20,820 --> 04:40:24,024 that you guys have technically failed us as citizens. 6015 04:40:24,391 --> 04:40:27,394 Thank you for your time. 6016 04:40:33,900 --> 04:40:35,335 Good evening. 6017 04:40:35,335 --> 04:40:35,668 All right. 6018 04:40:35,668 --> 04:40:37,437 Good evening, mayor and city council members. 6019 04:40:37,437 --> 04:40:38,805 Thank you for your time. 6020 04:40:38,805 --> 04:40:40,640 First off, I want to thank all of you for being here. 6021 04:40:40,640 --> 04:40:42,208 This is amazing. So many of you showed up. 6022 04:40:42,208 --> 04:40:45,178 So we'll give you guys a round of applause. 6023 04:40:45,445 --> 04:40:45,979 Okay. 6024 04:40:45,979 --> 04:40:47,247 My name is ironic if I didn't know this. 6025 04:40:47,247 --> 04:40:48,848 Flores, I am a resident 6026 04:40:48,848 --> 04:40:51,184 of the City of Surprise and live off of Happy Valley 6027 04:40:51,184 --> 04:40:52,352 and the 303. 6028 04:40:52,352 --> 04:40:55,155 I am also a member and organizer for the Phoenix Metro DSA 6029 04:40:55,155 --> 04:40:57,157 or Democratic Socialists of America. 6030 04:40:57,157 --> 04:40:59,526 I am here to make demands and speak against ISIS. 6031 04:40:59,526 --> 04:41:01,461 Plan to use the warehouse located here in surprise 6032 04:41:01,461 --> 04:41:02,862 as a concentration, 6033 04:41:02,862 --> 04:41:05,298 concentration camp, because that's what it is. 6034 04:41:05,298 --> 04:41:06,933 My demands are that one, 6035 04:41:06,933 --> 04:41:09,169 the city of Surprise, and the City Council stops 6036 04:41:09,169 --> 04:41:10,270 this warehouse from being used 6037 04:41:10,270 --> 04:41:12,005 and developed into a concentration camp. 6038 04:41:12,005 --> 04:41:14,941 Two that the City of Surprise attorney outlines their position 6039 04:41:14,941 --> 04:41:16,142 on whether the federal government 6040 04:41:16,142 --> 04:41:19,145 has the authority to override city zoning laws, 6041 04:41:19,279 --> 04:41:20,213 and lastly, 6042 04:41:20,213 --> 04:41:22,749 that city officials denounce the use of this facility 6043 04:41:22,749 --> 04:41:25,552 to illegally detain and hold any and all persons, 6044 04:41:25,552 --> 04:41:28,054 especially those who are vulnerable, such as immigrants. 6045 04:41:29,589 --> 04:41:30,957 I said, this administration are not here 6046 04:41:30,957 --> 04:41:32,525 to detain criminals as they claim. 6047 04:41:32,525 --> 04:41:34,694 They are here to silence those who oppose their fascist 6048 04:41:34,694 --> 04:41:36,796 regime and target the most vulnerable people 6049 04:41:36,796 --> 04:41:37,530 in our communities. 6050 04:41:37,530 --> 04:41:39,299 Across Arizona, 6051 04:41:39,299 --> 04:41:42,302 we all saw with our own ears and eyes the murder of Alex Brady. 6052 04:41:42,635 --> 04:41:44,437 If the Trump administration and Ice are willing 6053 04:41:44,437 --> 04:41:45,271 to murder a white man, 6054 04:41:45,271 --> 04:41:46,706 then they have absolutely no problem 6055 04:41:46,706 --> 04:41:48,808 murdering the rest of us, including those in city council. 6056 04:41:48,808 --> 04:41:51,811 That's right. None of us are safe. 6057 04:41:52,379 --> 04:41:53,780 It's shameful that this city council 6058 04:41:53,780 --> 04:41:54,447 officially stated 6059 04:41:54,447 --> 04:41:56,516 that they were not aware of the efforts being made by Ice 6060 04:41:56,516 --> 04:41:58,451 to purchase a warehouse in our backyard, 6061 04:41:58,451 --> 04:42:00,153 as well as stating that local police are unable 6062 04:42:00,153 --> 04:42:01,654 to protect their own taxpayers 6063 04:42:01,654 --> 04:42:03,356 from being kidnaped and trafficked by Ice. 6064 04:42:04,391 --> 04:42:06,326 This was reminiscent of the Nuremberg trials, 6065 04:42:06,326 --> 04:42:08,595 where they excuse use by Nazis trying to rinse their bloody 6066 04:42:08,595 --> 04:42:11,598 and guilty hands was I was just following orders. 6067 04:42:12,298 --> 04:42:14,367 If this city council decides to continue to be complicit 6068 04:42:14,367 --> 04:42:15,835 and does not take actionable steps 6069 04:42:15,835 --> 04:42:18,838 to stop these unidentified, unaccountable mass thugs 6070 04:42:18,972 --> 04:42:20,340 from terrorizing our communities, 6071 04:42:20,340 --> 04:42:23,476 then we the people will hold you all completely accountable 6072 04:42:23,710 --> 04:42:25,345 for the human atrocities, 6073 04:42:25,345 --> 04:42:27,847 the human rights atrocities that Ice will commit 6074 04:42:27,847 --> 04:42:30,984 under your watch, inside the $7 million concentration camp. 6075 04:42:32,752 --> 04:42:34,287 I was going to say something to you earlier, mayor, 6076 04:42:34,287 --> 04:42:35,422 because you seemed uncomfortable with us 6077 04:42:35,422 --> 04:42:37,157 clapping for us, standing up for what's right. 6078 04:42:37,157 --> 04:42:38,058 But I'll let it go this time 6079 04:42:38,058 --> 04:42:39,325 because you've been giving this time. 6080 04:42:39,325 --> 04:42:41,661 So that's all I have to say. And I really appreciate 6081 04:42:41,661 --> 04:42:42,829 everyone's time and for being here. 6082 04:42:49,436 --> 04:42:50,036 Good evening. 6083 04:42:50,036 --> 04:42:51,971 Good night. 6084 04:42:51,971 --> 04:42:53,606 My name is Sharon Rodriguez. 6085 04:42:53,606 --> 04:42:56,142 I'm a Goodyear resident, so I'm in 44th. 6086 04:42:56,142 --> 04:42:59,813 I've an Indian school, but I'm always here, 6087 04:43:00,714 --> 04:43:02,849 because you have the best parks. 6088 04:43:02,849 --> 04:43:04,851 You have such great libraries. 6089 04:43:04,851 --> 04:43:07,153 I love the Goodyear library, too. 6090 04:43:07,153 --> 04:43:13,426 And I have my baby girl, and I see the effort and I see 6091 04:43:14,127 --> 04:43:16,796 all that you've accomplished in your beautiful city. 6092 04:43:16,796 --> 04:43:18,131 But what happens in surprise? 6093 04:43:18,131 --> 04:43:20,166 Well, for Goodyear, Waddell 6094 04:43:20,166 --> 04:43:23,370 affects everybody in Litchfield as well and beyond. 6095 04:43:23,903 --> 04:43:26,539 And I've seen Parks and Rec. 6096 04:43:26,539 --> 04:43:30,610 I know your jobs are really hard, but I do. 6097 04:43:31,311 --> 04:43:34,381 I do recognize that our 6098 04:43:34,848 --> 04:43:37,851 our federal government has collapsed essentially, 6099 04:43:37,917 --> 04:43:40,153 especially with the Epstein files that just drop. 6100 04:43:40,153 --> 04:43:43,156 We just see that the federal government 6101 04:43:43,456 --> 04:43:47,394 has no regard for the people and just uses us for money. 6102 04:43:47,794 --> 04:43:50,797 So really, your government and we're all here 6103 04:43:50,797 --> 04:43:53,767 with our hands and our hearts asking you to 6104 04:43:54,801 --> 04:43:57,604 be the government that we need you to be 6105 04:43:57,604 --> 04:43:58,905 because the federal government 6106 04:43:58,905 --> 04:44:01,908 no longer has laws, they're no longer 6107 04:44:02,475 --> 04:44:05,278 accountable to anyone, Democrat or Republican, 6108 04:44:05,278 --> 04:44:06,646 white House or Supreme Court. 6109 04:44:06,646 --> 04:44:08,348 Everybody has failed us. 6110 04:44:08,348 --> 04:44:10,550 You're the only one standing in the way. 6111 04:44:10,550 --> 04:44:14,387 And if you don't assist us in assisting you 6112 04:44:14,387 --> 04:44:16,723 in getting rid of this or stopping this 6113 04:44:16,723 --> 04:44:19,359 or preventing this Ice facility, 6114 04:44:19,359 --> 04:44:20,927 things are going to get really violent. 6115 04:44:20,927 --> 04:44:23,563 Just like in L.A., just like in Minnesota, 6116 04:44:23,563 --> 04:44:27,534 just like in Gaza, just like in every single place 6117 04:44:27,801 --> 04:44:31,137 where once the government fails, it's up to us. 6118 04:44:31,137 --> 04:44:32,238 Just like Governor 6119 04:44:32,238 --> 04:44:36,209 Tim Walz shrugged his hands and said, just use mutual aid. 6120 04:44:36,209 --> 04:44:38,278 Just reach out to your neighbors. 6121 04:44:38,278 --> 04:44:39,612 We can do that. 6122 04:44:39,612 --> 04:44:42,115 But we elected you guys 6123 04:44:43,349 --> 04:44:45,051 to represent us, 6124 04:44:45,051 --> 04:44:47,020 and I really appreciate all that you've done, 6125 04:44:47,020 --> 04:44:47,721 and I appreciate 6126 04:44:47,721 --> 04:44:49,289 that you've been here so late, 6127 04:44:49,289 --> 04:44:51,591 and I appreciate you listening to us. 6128 04:44:51,591 --> 04:44:55,061 And I hope and I pray that when you go to sleep tonight, 6129 04:44:55,995 --> 04:44:58,498 wake up tomorrow with the new fire under your feet. 6130 04:44:58,498 --> 04:45:04,771 Thank you and God bless. You. 6131 04:45:05,505 --> 04:45:06,072 Good evening. 6132 04:45:06,072 --> 04:45:09,075 Good evening. 6133 04:45:12,379 --> 04:45:14,147 Mr. mayor, 6134 04:45:14,147 --> 04:45:16,483 city council. 6135 04:45:16,483 --> 04:45:18,018 To my fellow friends 6136 04:45:18,018 --> 04:45:21,021 and Americans. 6137 04:45:21,154 --> 04:45:24,090 And if there's anybody freezing their butts off outside. 6138 04:45:24,090 --> 04:45:27,060 God bless you. 6139 04:45:27,060 --> 04:45:29,529 My name is Mark Graham. 6140 04:45:29,529 --> 04:45:32,532 I'm a resident of Sun City. 6141 04:45:33,066 --> 04:45:34,334 I'm a mechanic. 6142 04:45:34,334 --> 04:45:36,903 An aircraft mechanic. 6143 04:45:36,903 --> 04:45:40,507 I'm the Democratic candidate for LD 28. 6144 04:45:40,774 --> 04:45:43,877 The district for this state right next door. 6145 04:45:43,877 --> 04:45:46,880 And my people have concerns. 6146 04:45:47,847 --> 04:45:50,817 I'd like to state a few truths, and I'd like to ask 6147 04:45:50,817 --> 04:45:54,387 a few questions that you may or may not answer in the future. 6148 04:45:55,622 --> 04:45:57,057 Here's the truth. 6149 04:45:57,057 --> 04:45:58,324 Nobody. 6150 04:45:58,324 --> 04:46:01,327 Nobody is illegal in stolen land. 6151 04:46:01,594 --> 04:46:03,897 Nobody. 6152 04:46:03,897 --> 04:46:05,398 Here's the truth. 6153 04:46:05,398 --> 04:46:09,269 Every single person that's a living, breathing human 6154 04:46:09,269 --> 04:46:10,236 being on the earth 6155 04:46:10,236 --> 04:46:11,071 has the same 6156 04:46:11,071 --> 04:46:14,474 constitutional rights as the president of the United States. 6157 04:46:15,041 --> 04:46:18,044 Every person that's going to be living in this facility, 6158 04:46:18,578 --> 04:46:22,682 you are their representatives, whether you like it or not. 6159 04:46:23,016 --> 04:46:25,218 They are your constituents. 6160 04:46:25,218 --> 04:46:27,721 If they are only there for one night, 6161 04:46:27,721 --> 04:46:30,724 you have personal responsibility for the 6162 04:46:32,492 --> 04:46:34,394 a few questions, 6163 04:46:34,394 --> 04:46:37,397 because I think this is a time for questions. 6164 04:46:37,931 --> 04:46:41,434 Madam City Manager, I don't know your schedule, 6165 04:46:41,668 --> 04:46:42,635 but I'll bet tomorrow 6166 04:46:42,635 --> 04:46:44,037 you're going to have a big discussion 6167 04:46:44,037 --> 04:46:45,905 of how much money you need to claw back 6168 04:46:45,905 --> 04:46:49,409 from all these great programs for special police operations 6169 04:46:49,843 --> 04:46:52,779 because of a because of the ice plant, 6170 04:46:52,779 --> 04:46:55,782 the ice plant, the concentration camp. 6171 04:46:56,583 --> 04:46:58,852 Mr. City attorney, I sure hope 6172 04:46:58,852 --> 04:47:02,022 you have a huge civil rights division in your office 6173 04:47:02,355 --> 04:47:05,625 because you are going to be filing or fighting lawsuits, 6174 04:47:05,959 --> 04:47:08,895 both legitimate 6175 04:47:08,895 --> 04:47:11,631 and trivial, for the next several years. 6176 04:47:13,166 --> 04:47:14,667 I don't have much more to say here 6177 04:47:14,667 --> 04:47:18,405 than anybody else has to say, but I'll tell you this I am 6178 04:47:18,405 --> 04:47:21,641 completely and unequivocally opposed to this. 6179 04:47:22,842 --> 04:47:25,378 More questions for you right now. 6180 04:47:25,378 --> 04:47:28,181 Are you cooperating with Ice? 6181 04:47:28,181 --> 04:47:31,451 Are you allowing the ice to use our police facilities? 6182 04:47:31,818 --> 04:47:34,821 Are you allowing them to use our video cameras? 6183 04:47:35,121 --> 04:47:38,058 Are you working with them right now? 6184 04:47:38,058 --> 04:47:41,928 I don't expect an answer, but I just like people to know 6185 04:47:42,362 --> 04:47:45,331 that we should really be looking at 6186 04:47:45,331 --> 04:47:48,334 practical, real solutions for this. 6187 04:47:48,768 --> 04:47:51,771 And we will be looking for those solutions from you. 6188 04:47:52,405 --> 04:47:53,673 Thank you so much for your time. 6189 04:47:53,673 --> 04:47:54,207 And, Mr. 6190 04:47:54,207 --> 04:47:54,941 Mayor, 6191 04:47:54,941 --> 04:47:57,944 you could have sent us out of here at any time this night. 6192 04:47:57,977 --> 04:48:01,214 Nobody expected you to let us talk for 4 or 5 hours. 6193 04:48:01,381 --> 04:48:04,217 I thank you so much for your grace and patience. 6194 04:48:06,486 --> 04:48:09,489 Thank you. 6195 04:48:15,095 --> 04:48:17,197 Good evening. 6196 04:48:17,197 --> 04:48:18,598 Good evening to everyone. 6197 04:48:18,598 --> 04:48:21,468 Mr. mayor, the city council, 6198 04:48:21,468 --> 04:48:24,571 the clerks, the officers, the cameramen. 6199 04:48:25,271 --> 04:48:27,707 Thank you for your time. 6200 04:48:27,707 --> 04:48:29,142 And the people here with me. 6201 04:48:29,142 --> 04:48:31,678 Thank you for your time as well. 6202 04:48:31,678 --> 04:48:34,514 I have come, unfortunately, not to talk about ice. 6203 04:48:34,514 --> 04:48:37,684 I have a different matter that I think is just as important. 6204 04:48:38,818 --> 04:48:41,488 I hope you guys know by name. 6205 04:48:41,488 --> 04:48:44,090 Flock. Safety flock, incorporated. 6206 04:48:44,090 --> 04:48:47,093 Flock. Whatever. Camera. 6207 04:48:47,694 --> 04:48:50,263 Personally, I well, 6208 04:48:50,263 --> 04:48:53,266 like, before I go on a tangent and lose time. 6209 04:48:54,034 --> 04:48:56,302 I Jeffrey holler. 6210 04:48:56,302 --> 04:48:59,906 Do not consent to the installation of flock cameras. 6211 04:49:00,106 --> 04:49:03,343 Flock programs flock software flock. 6212 04:49:03,343 --> 04:49:07,180 Anything in the state or in the state of Arizona, 6213 04:49:07,447 --> 04:49:10,150 in the United States, or in surprise. 6214 04:49:10,150 --> 04:49:11,818 I do not want it. 6215 04:49:11,818 --> 04:49:14,788 I understand that there is a greater good, 6216 04:49:14,854 --> 04:49:16,956 and I can play devil's advocate. 6217 04:49:16,956 --> 04:49:21,027 I have talked to police officers in Tempe 6218 04:49:21,428 --> 04:49:25,498 and Peoria and Scottsdale and now here 6219 04:49:25,498 --> 04:49:29,369 today, and I have had a few say that with it. 6220 04:49:29,369 --> 04:49:33,506 They have definitely gone through cases a lot faster, a 6221 04:49:33,506 --> 04:49:37,343 lot more completely, a lot more certainly because of flock. 6222 04:49:37,811 --> 04:49:40,880 However, I fully believe that they 6223 04:49:40,947 --> 04:49:44,484 are a price that we as citizens cannot pay. 6224 04:49:44,951 --> 04:49:50,357 And I hope that the issue is that you guys have been 6225 04:49:50,523 --> 04:49:54,627 almost lied to by flock because flock, the CEO, 6226 04:49:55,595 --> 04:49:58,064 is mostly just a liar 6227 04:49:58,064 --> 04:50:01,067 and I don't want to just throw around the word. 6228 04:50:01,067 --> 04:50:05,238 But he has committed multiple felonies among privacy 6229 04:50:05,638 --> 04:50:08,575 and among for these guys. 6230 04:50:08,575 --> 04:50:11,644 He his company has helped out Ice despite it 6231 04:50:11,644 --> 04:50:14,647 being a felony for, 6232 04:50:14,748 --> 04:50:18,151 deportation services to use flock services. 6233 04:50:19,452 --> 04:50:21,988 So really, 6234 04:50:21,988 --> 04:50:24,958 all I can say is that I do not want them here. 6235 04:50:25,458 --> 04:50:28,995 And I have been scrambled from all of my thoughts, 6236 04:50:28,995 --> 04:50:31,998 from listening to 132 people talk. 6237 04:50:32,298 --> 04:50:35,301 And I'm sure it's hard for everyone else too. 6238 04:50:35,702 --> 04:50:38,705 And I would be happy to come back with 6239 04:50:39,172 --> 04:50:42,175 some more sleep, really, and 6240 04:50:42,509 --> 04:50:46,079 and come back and more clearly state my opinions, facts, 6241 04:50:46,513 --> 04:50:50,216 and properly discuss what I could hope to be a discussion. 6242 04:50:50,884 --> 04:50:53,319 I appreciate everyone's time here, 6243 04:50:53,319 --> 04:50:55,121 especially you, camera guy. 6244 04:50:55,121 --> 04:50:57,023 I know how tough it is. 6245 04:50:57,023 --> 04:50:57,857 Have a good night. 6246 04:51:01,761 --> 04:51:03,196 Sir. We have a meeting on the 6247 04:51:03,196 --> 04:51:05,732 first and third Tuesday of every month, 6248 04:51:05,732 --> 04:51:07,934 and we have a call to the public every meeting. 6249 04:51:07,934 --> 04:51:09,436 So you're more than welcome to come back. 6250 04:51:09,436 --> 04:51:10,370 Thank you. Mayor. 6251 04:51:10,370 --> 04:51:12,205 I have two additional speakers. 6252 04:51:12,205 --> 04:51:16,242 Add, Gary Nixon and Kelly Overs. 6253 04:51:16,409 --> 04:51:18,478 You want to go ahead and wrap? 6254 04:51:18,478 --> 04:51:19,979 Thank you. 6255 04:51:19,979 --> 04:51:20,680 Good evening. 6256 04:51:20,680 --> 04:51:21,548 Good evening. 6257 04:51:21,548 --> 04:51:23,683 Hello, mayor and council. 6258 04:51:23,683 --> 04:51:27,520 My name is Sophia Rios, and I fall under Mr. 6259 04:51:27,520 --> 04:51:28,722 Melton's district. 6260 04:51:28,722 --> 04:51:31,858 And I was a student at Vista while Mr. 6261 04:51:31,858 --> 04:51:34,861 Hazy as an educator. 6262 04:51:34,928 --> 04:51:36,830 I am an American citizen 6263 04:51:36,830 --> 04:51:39,833 and also a proud daughter of immigrants. 6264 04:51:41,000 --> 04:51:44,003 My husband, proud United States 6265 04:51:44,037 --> 04:51:48,441 Navy servicemember, is also a son of immigrants. 6266 04:51:49,776 --> 04:51:53,113 Our parents were fortunate enough to get citizenship 6267 04:51:53,480 --> 04:51:54,547 through amnesty. 6268 04:51:54,547 --> 04:51:56,983 And I share this with you. So you understand 6269 04:51:56,983 --> 04:52:00,253 just how deeply personal this issue is to me. 6270 04:52:02,322 --> 04:52:04,157 Just this past week, 6271 04:52:04,157 --> 04:52:08,094 my husband returned home from a larger wave. 6272 04:52:09,095 --> 04:52:13,566 My first phone call to him was to tell him 6273 04:52:14,501 --> 04:52:17,370 that less than two miles away 6274 04:52:17,370 --> 04:52:20,373 from my childhood homes, 6275 04:52:21,207 --> 04:52:24,177 an ice warehouse was being built. 6276 04:52:26,446 --> 04:52:27,013 News like 6277 04:52:27,013 --> 04:52:30,050 this does not land quietly 6278 04:52:30,050 --> 04:52:33,053 in a household like ours. 6279 04:52:33,186 --> 04:52:35,188 He was deeply disturbed. 6280 04:52:35,188 --> 04:52:38,758 And now, in addition to serving his country, 6281 04:52:39,225 --> 04:52:42,462 he carries the weight of worry about the safety 6282 04:52:42,462 --> 04:52:45,465 and well-being of our family. 6283 04:52:46,666 --> 04:52:48,902 Even though we hold 6284 04:52:48,902 --> 04:52:51,571 citizenship and permanent residency, 6285 04:52:51,571 --> 04:52:53,473 that fear is not unfounded. 6286 04:52:53,473 --> 04:52:55,308 History 6287 04:52:55,308 --> 04:52:58,678 and lived experience have taught us our communities 6288 04:52:58,978 --> 04:53:02,248 that proximity to detention centers brings harm, 6289 04:53:02,515 --> 04:53:06,119 trauma, and instability, not safety. 6290 04:53:06,786 --> 04:53:09,889 I am standing you and I am standing here today 6291 04:53:10,156 --> 04:53:11,758 and sharing my story 6292 04:53:11,758 --> 04:53:15,962 so that no one in this room can say they did not know 6293 04:53:15,962 --> 04:53:19,065 so, but personally affected by this decision. 6294 04:53:20,734 --> 04:53:22,335 I am your constituent. 6295 04:53:22,335 --> 04:53:25,939 I am your neighbor and I am part of this community. 6296 04:53:26,339 --> 04:53:29,342 Thank you. 6297 04:53:29,909 --> 04:53:36,015 It. Is. 6298 04:53:44,190 --> 04:53:45,992 Good evening everyone. 6299 04:53:45,992 --> 04:53:46,459 First of all, 6300 04:53:46,459 --> 04:53:46,826 I would like to 6301 04:53:46,826 --> 04:53:48,661 thank all of the community members 6302 04:53:48,661 --> 04:53:49,796 and that have come to both 6303 04:53:49,796 --> 04:53:51,598 to speak in here and to stand outside 6304 04:53:51,598 --> 04:53:53,700 to make their voices heard tonight. 6305 04:53:53,700 --> 04:53:54,868 My name is Cam Klein, 6306 04:53:54,868 --> 04:53:57,871 and I'm a long time resident of surprise, Arizona. 6307 04:53:58,071 --> 04:53:59,939 I attended every year of my 6308 04:53:59,939 --> 04:54:02,909 first through 12th grade education here in surprise. 6309 04:54:02,976 --> 04:54:05,412 I resided in surprise while I attended my alma mater, 6310 04:54:05,412 --> 04:54:07,680 Arizona State University. 6311 04:54:07,680 --> 04:54:10,617 So, I would say that I have a pretty good grasp on 6312 04:54:10,617 --> 04:54:13,753 both the character of this state and the character of the city. 6313 04:54:14,387 --> 04:54:16,222 And, a word on my own character. 6314 04:54:16,222 --> 04:54:18,458 Anyone who would know me in real life would say that 6315 04:54:18,458 --> 04:54:21,461 I am pretty even tempered and not quick to get upset. 6316 04:54:21,961 --> 04:54:25,265 So I do not take it lightly when I say 6317 04:54:25,265 --> 04:54:27,167 that the presence of ice in our community 6318 04:54:27,167 --> 04:54:30,170 is nothing short of an attack and an insult. 6319 04:54:30,170 --> 04:54:31,705 This agency has shown time 6320 04:54:31,705 --> 04:54:34,007 and time again, both since its inception 6321 04:54:34,007 --> 04:54:36,376 and especially in the last few weeks and months, 6322 04:54:36,376 --> 04:54:38,678 that it does not have respect for our community, 6323 04:54:38,678 --> 04:54:41,614 its members, or general human dignity 6324 04:54:41,614 --> 04:54:44,517 to stand by and allow this facility to be unimpeded 6325 04:54:44,517 --> 04:54:46,186 would be nothing short of cowardice. 6326 04:54:47,320 --> 04:54:49,589 To wring our hands and say there is nothing that can be 6327 04:54:49,589 --> 04:54:52,459 done is not just an abdication of our responsibility 6328 04:54:52,459 --> 04:54:55,462 as citizens, but also our own human morality. 6329 04:54:55,995 --> 04:54:57,130 My fellow community members 6330 04:54:57,130 --> 04:54:59,799 have spoken at length about the multitude of ways 6331 04:54:59,799 --> 04:55:02,102 that the council can oppose this facility, 6332 04:55:02,102 --> 04:55:03,770 and anything less than a complete 6333 04:55:03,770 --> 04:55:06,706 and total opposition to this project is, in my eyes, 6334 04:55:06,706 --> 04:55:09,709 a failure of the biggest magnitude. 6335 04:55:09,909 --> 04:55:11,978 I am a proud descendant of Jewish immigrants 6336 04:55:11,978 --> 04:55:13,346 to this country. 6337 04:55:13,346 --> 04:55:14,748 Through my life I have heard these 6338 04:55:14,748 --> 04:55:16,483 words stated so many times. 6339 04:55:16,483 --> 04:55:18,518 Never again. 6340 04:55:18,518 --> 04:55:21,521 And when I look at the state of this country as it is right 6341 04:55:21,521 --> 04:55:25,625 now, those were all those words feel a bit hollow, which is why 6342 04:55:25,625 --> 04:55:29,429 we demand that they be respected and upheld for all peoples. 6343 04:55:29,729 --> 04:55:32,399 Never again means to keep ice out. 6344 04:55:33,867 --> 04:55:34,267 When? 6345 04:55:34,267 --> 04:55:35,802 When all 6346 04:55:35,802 --> 04:55:38,471 when all of this is said and done, I hope that all of you 6347 04:55:38,471 --> 04:55:40,740 city council members do the right thing. 6348 04:55:40,740 --> 04:55:43,910 And, take actions that allow you to sleep at night 6349 04:55:43,910 --> 04:55:45,278 with a clear conscience. 6350 04:55:45,278 --> 04:55:48,281 Thank you. 6351 04:55:51,718 --> 04:55:54,287 Good evening. 6352 04:55:54,287 --> 04:55:56,556 Hi, my name is Josias Michelle Flores. 6353 04:55:56,556 --> 04:55:57,824 You can call me Josiah. 6354 04:55:57,824 --> 04:55:59,492 Joe Jojo, I don't know. 6355 04:55:59,492 --> 04:56:01,795 You're probably never going to see me again after today. 6356 04:56:01,795 --> 04:56:02,962 I'm not from around here. 6357 04:56:02,962 --> 04:56:05,265 I'm from Mesa, Arizona, 21 years. 6358 04:56:05,265 --> 04:56:06,866 Born and raised. 6359 04:56:06,866 --> 04:56:08,401 I am first generation. 6360 04:56:08,401 --> 04:56:10,503 My parents are both from Mexico. 6361 04:56:10,503 --> 04:56:11,938 They are immigrants. 6362 04:56:11,938 --> 04:56:14,908 My family, they are all Hispanic. 6363 04:56:15,375 --> 04:56:19,212 We live every day with fear of being stomped 6364 04:56:19,212 --> 04:56:22,215 and being ridiculed by your officers. 6365 04:56:22,315 --> 04:56:25,285 And you're making a detention facility or a warehouse. 6366 04:56:25,285 --> 04:56:26,686 I don't know what it is, 6367 04:56:26,686 --> 04:56:29,689 but I don't want it anywhere near this state. 6368 04:56:29,889 --> 04:56:33,026 I want that to be clear, I hate this. 6369 04:56:33,293 --> 04:56:36,963 I see that flag and I don't see freedom. 6370 04:56:37,197 --> 04:56:39,399 I see a swastika. 6371 04:56:39,399 --> 04:56:42,202 I see prejudice. 6372 04:56:42,202 --> 04:56:44,637 I see an excuse for hatred. 6373 04:56:44,637 --> 04:56:46,473 I can never respect that flag. 6374 04:56:46,473 --> 04:56:48,074 I am a dual citizen. 6375 04:56:48,074 --> 04:56:49,476 I am a citizen of America. 6376 04:56:49,476 --> 04:56:51,211 But I'm also a citizen of Mexico. 6377 04:56:51,211 --> 04:56:51,678 And I would be 6378 04:56:51,678 --> 04:56:55,515 more than happy to leave here if this place becomes like 6379 04:56:55,515 --> 04:56:57,117 World War two. Nazi Germany. 6380 04:56:58,318 --> 04:57:00,153 It's crazy that we are 6381 04:57:00,153 --> 04:57:02,255 always talking about these kinds of things. 6382 04:57:02,255 --> 04:57:03,923 Concentration camps. 6383 04:57:03,923 --> 04:57:06,860 Why are we so obsessed with them? 6384 04:57:06,860 --> 04:57:09,329 All of us can agree that they don't do anything. 6385 04:57:09,329 --> 04:57:10,764 Where are these people going? 6386 04:57:10,764 --> 04:57:12,699 You know how many people are missing 6387 04:57:12,699 --> 04:57:14,334 from these detention facilities? 6388 04:57:14,334 --> 04:57:16,002 We don't know where they go. 6389 04:57:16,002 --> 04:57:18,238 The people that have died in their care. 6390 04:57:18,238 --> 04:57:21,041 That's blood on your hands. 6391 04:57:21,041 --> 04:57:24,144 If you pass this, you are on my radar. 6392 04:57:24,411 --> 04:57:27,180 I will never forget your names or faces. 6393 04:57:27,180 --> 04:57:30,083 And I will make sure you will never forget mine. 6394 04:57:30,083 --> 04:57:32,952 Sorry if this makes me a little bit emotional. 6395 04:57:32,952 --> 04:57:36,056 It keeps me up at night, and it kind of makes me mad 6396 04:57:36,089 --> 04:57:39,959 that you guys are being thanked for doing your jobs. 6397 04:57:40,026 --> 04:57:41,895 You guys are sitting there just listening. 6398 04:57:41,895 --> 04:57:43,563 I would love to do that. 6399 04:57:43,563 --> 04:57:44,698 I would love to get paid 6400 04:57:44,698 --> 04:57:47,267 to just stare at random people all day 6401 04:57:47,267 --> 04:57:48,902 and just listen to what they have to say. 6402 04:57:48,902 --> 04:57:51,137 I'm sure some of you guys are good people, 6403 04:57:51,137 --> 04:57:53,673 but I've been watching every single one of you 6404 04:57:53,673 --> 04:57:56,609 and the amount of care that you are even putting into 6405 04:57:56,609 --> 04:57:59,579 just listening is pathetic. 6406 04:57:59,679 --> 04:58:02,215 I have no respect for any of you. 6407 04:58:02,215 --> 04:58:05,151 I have no respect for authority or government. 6408 04:58:05,151 --> 04:58:06,653 I respect democracy. 6409 04:58:06,653 --> 04:58:08,521 I believe in democracy. 6410 04:58:08,521 --> 04:58:12,492 I don't believe in America's system because it is corrupt. 6411 04:58:12,926 --> 04:58:14,928 It is awful and is evil. 6412 04:58:14,928 --> 04:58:17,097 If you want an example, look at our president 6413 04:58:17,097 --> 04:58:18,465 and his friends. 6414 04:58:18,465 --> 04:58:19,799 Look at Bill gates. 6415 04:58:19,799 --> 04:58:22,469 Look at Jeffrey Epstein. Look at. 6416 04:58:23,603 --> 04:58:25,472 Oh, there's so many Mark 6417 04:58:25,472 --> 04:58:29,075 Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos all in cahoots. 6418 04:58:29,075 --> 04:58:31,010 The billionaires are all together. 6419 04:58:31,010 --> 04:58:33,513 And that should scare you, because the amount of power 6420 04:58:33,513 --> 04:58:35,949 they hold right now, the wealth disparity 6421 04:58:35,949 --> 04:58:37,450 should be affecting you, 6422 04:58:37,450 --> 04:58:40,453 and you should be seeing it in your everyday life. 6423 04:58:41,221 --> 04:58:45,091 You need to be taking this more seriously because I'm young. 6424 04:58:45,158 --> 04:58:47,627 This is my future. How old are all of you? 6425 04:58:47,627 --> 04:58:49,629 What is the average age on this board? 6426 04:58:49,629 --> 04:58:52,699 If it's above 30, then that's kind of disappointing. 6427 04:58:56,836 --> 04:58:58,638 I think I'm good. 6428 04:58:58,638 --> 04:59:01,641 Thank you. 6429 04:59:07,247 --> 04:59:09,816 Good evening sir. 6430 04:59:09,816 --> 04:59:11,785 Good evening. 6431 04:59:11,785 --> 04:59:12,819 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 6432 04:59:12,819 --> 04:59:15,422 And the City Council and all the city staff 6433 04:59:15,422 --> 04:59:16,856 that have stuck around. 6434 04:59:16,856 --> 04:59:18,558 I do appreciate you keeping the floor 6435 04:59:18,558 --> 04:59:20,727 open to let everybody speak. 6436 04:59:20,727 --> 04:59:23,730 I attended today just to be a silent partner 6437 04:59:23,963 --> 04:59:26,299 in supporting my community. 6438 04:59:26,299 --> 04:59:29,302 And I feel like I just have to put my name on the record. 6439 04:59:29,569 --> 04:59:32,572 My name is Jean rolls, and I'm a retired military officer. 6440 04:59:32,639 --> 04:59:36,309 I've lived in the Phoenix area since 2001. 6441 04:59:36,576 --> 04:59:38,845 We chose to retire in the Grand. 6442 04:59:38,845 --> 04:59:40,547 Our cross streets are bell and cotton. 6443 04:59:43,917 --> 04:59:46,920 And it is so unfortunate how this has played out. 6444 04:59:47,020 --> 04:59:50,423 And I think it's going to tarnish what what many people 6445 04:59:50,423 --> 04:59:52,892 have. 6446 04:59:52,892 --> 04:59:55,995 Tried to say surprised is good about I think surprise. 6447 04:59:56,196 --> 04:59:59,199 I remember as a small town when the target was built 6448 04:59:59,399 --> 05:00:00,867 at Bell and Grand. 6449 05:00:00,867 --> 05:00:02,469 That was a big deal. 6450 05:00:02,469 --> 05:00:04,237 We are 60,000 people. 6451 05:00:04,237 --> 05:00:07,140 We're going to get an Applebee's in town. 6452 05:00:07,140 --> 05:00:12,178 So the growth that the city has managed over these 25 years 6453 05:00:12,278 --> 05:00:13,646 has been remarkable. 6454 05:00:13,646 --> 05:00:17,150 We chose to retire here because it is a great place to live. 6455 05:00:17,717 --> 05:00:21,287 You know, I didn't think as a retiree 6456 05:00:21,287 --> 05:00:24,691 I would attend so many protests in the last year 6457 05:00:25,558 --> 05:00:28,561 that I've attended more than in my entire life. 6458 05:00:28,895 --> 05:00:30,630 I'd like to give a shout out to this. 6459 05:00:30,630 --> 05:00:32,232 The police department here. 6460 05:00:32,232 --> 05:00:34,167 I think they do a wonderful job 6461 05:00:34,167 --> 05:00:37,737 managing the protests that are happening. 6462 05:00:38,671 --> 05:00:41,007 Every Saturday they're world class. 6463 05:00:41,007 --> 05:00:44,944 If this Ice detention facility comes into our community, 6464 05:00:45,211 --> 05:00:46,880 they're going to be overstressed 6465 05:00:46,880 --> 05:00:49,049 and their reputation is going to be tarnished 6466 05:00:49,049 --> 05:00:51,918 because it won't be peaceful like it is 6467 05:00:51,918 --> 05:00:54,921 every day on Saturday. Okay. 6468 05:00:55,121 --> 05:00:58,124 This Ice detention facility and 6469 05:00:58,558 --> 05:01:01,828 the policies and executive actions of our 6470 05:01:01,828 --> 05:01:05,098 leadership are very divisive for our community 6471 05:01:05,331 --> 05:01:06,633 and for our nation. 6472 05:01:06,633 --> 05:01:08,201 And as a result of that, 6473 05:01:08,201 --> 05:01:11,604 violence will percolate to the surface. 6474 05:01:11,938 --> 05:01:14,607 And we won't have these conversations 6475 05:01:14,607 --> 05:01:17,610 like we're having now. 6476 05:01:17,610 --> 05:01:20,180 I know the city council can stand up, 6477 05:01:20,180 --> 05:01:23,883 because in October, you passed a resolution saying you were not 6478 05:01:23,883 --> 05:01:27,487 in support of the Burlington Northern Santa Fe Railroad. 6479 05:01:27,821 --> 05:01:31,324 Head up and Waddell at a minimum. 6480 05:01:31,324 --> 05:01:33,760 I think that should come out of the city council 6481 05:01:34,828 --> 05:01:35,995 in the next week or 6482 05:01:35,995 --> 05:01:39,766 two to say that we do not want this facility here. 6483 05:01:40,066 --> 05:01:43,069 If we have no legal 6484 05:01:43,169 --> 05:01:46,139 avenues to go against the federal government, 6485 05:01:46,139 --> 05:01:48,508 we have to, as a local community, 6486 05:01:48,508 --> 05:01:51,711 try to stop this overreach of the federal government 6487 05:01:52,379 --> 05:01:55,048 skirting the issue of localities 6488 05:01:55,048 --> 05:01:58,017 and running much of the federal 6489 05:01:58,485 --> 05:02:02,722 purse based off executive orders coming out of the white House. 6490 05:02:03,556 --> 05:02:06,159 We may disagree on politics, but that's not 6491 05:02:06,159 --> 05:02:09,162 how democracy is supposed to work in America. 6492 05:02:09,596 --> 05:02:11,564 We have three branches of government. 6493 05:02:11,564 --> 05:02:13,967 Congress controls the purse. 6494 05:02:13,967 --> 05:02:17,070 The executive branch executes the law. 6495 05:02:17,170 --> 05:02:17,937 Thank you sir. 6496 05:02:17,937 --> 05:02:20,940 Thank you. 6497 05:02:24,177 --> 05:02:27,180 Good evening. 6498 05:02:28,448 --> 05:02:31,451 Good evening, Mayor Sartor and council members. 6499 05:02:31,684 --> 05:02:33,720 My name is Maria Leonardi Foster 6500 05:02:33,720 --> 05:02:36,723 and I am a resident of surprise, living near Peoria and raised. 6501 05:02:37,624 --> 05:02:40,026 I am a full time behavioral health professional 6502 05:02:40,026 --> 05:02:42,629 and a full time addiction study and public policy student. 6503 05:02:43,697 --> 05:02:46,666 I do not come here with new data, innovative talking points, 6504 05:02:46,666 --> 05:02:48,702 or unique legal arguments regarding 6505 05:02:48,702 --> 05:02:51,705 the new confirmed Ice facility now planned in our city. 6506 05:02:52,639 --> 05:02:55,775 Having done my research on each of your policies, public 6507 05:02:55,775 --> 05:02:57,877 comments, and initiatives, 6508 05:02:57,877 --> 05:03:00,280 I am confident that reminding you of the emotional weight 6509 05:03:00,280 --> 05:03:02,182 and the mental toll that this news has on 6510 05:03:02,182 --> 05:03:05,185 our community members will not sway your position 6511 05:03:06,019 --> 05:03:06,920 even worse. 6512 05:03:06,920 --> 05:03:08,388 As incredible as the messages 6513 05:03:08,388 --> 05:03:11,391 have been this evening, I fear many of you do not care 6514 05:03:12,459 --> 05:03:14,194 regardless of where you stand. 6515 05:03:14,194 --> 05:03:16,763 For being here and listening to the members of the community. 6516 05:03:16,763 --> 05:03:19,332 You have my respect. 6517 05:03:19,332 --> 05:03:20,533 Mayor. Our tour. 6518 05:03:20,533 --> 05:03:21,935 You said at the start that you wish 6519 05:03:21,935 --> 05:03:24,070 to remind the people about the lack of power 6520 05:03:24,070 --> 05:03:27,073 that surprised City Council has on this issue. 6521 05:03:27,173 --> 05:03:30,009 I, and every person inside and outside of this building, 6522 05:03:30,009 --> 05:03:32,178 are here to remind you of what power looks like. 6523 05:03:33,246 --> 05:03:34,681 Yes, the federal government 6524 05:03:34,681 --> 05:03:37,684 has authority over immigration law and federal facilities. 6525 05:03:37,684 --> 05:03:39,119 And as you have said, 6526 05:03:39,119 --> 05:03:40,587 the city does not have the power 6527 05:03:40,587 --> 05:03:43,590 to interrupt or prevent Ice operations directly 6528 05:03:43,857 --> 05:03:45,925 under the Immigration and Nationality Act. 6529 05:03:45,925 --> 05:03:48,628 Federal projects are not subject to local zoning laws, 6530 05:03:48,628 --> 05:03:49,195 and the city 6531 05:03:49,195 --> 05:03:52,198 was not even notified prior to the proper purchase. 6532 05:03:52,966 --> 05:03:55,635 You, the surprise City Council, do have real 6533 05:03:55,635 --> 05:03:58,438 and meaningful power when it comes to demanding 6534 05:03:58,438 --> 05:04:01,441 transparency from federal agencies. 6535 05:04:01,641 --> 05:04:04,044 The community deserves clear public information 6536 05:04:04,044 --> 05:04:06,046 about the intended information 6537 05:04:06,046 --> 05:04:08,181 about the intended use of the facility, 6538 05:04:08,181 --> 05:04:08,982 the number of people 6539 05:04:08,982 --> 05:04:11,017 it will hold, protocols for oversight, 6540 05:04:11,017 --> 05:04:14,020 and how the city will be informed about changes. 6541 05:04:14,087 --> 05:04:16,589 It is these policies that ensure safe and humane 6542 05:04:16,589 --> 05:04:18,224 treatment of human beings 6543 05:04:18,224 --> 05:04:20,794 when transparency ceases to exist, 6544 05:04:20,794 --> 05:04:23,630 when overreach of power takes place, lives are lost. 6545 05:04:23,630 --> 05:04:24,297 We have seen it. 6546 05:04:25,432 --> 05:04:27,767 I formally request that the City of Surprise pass 6547 05:04:27,767 --> 05:04:30,837 a resolution demanding DHS and Ice publicly disclose 6548 05:04:30,837 --> 05:04:34,574 operating operational plans, community impact assessments, 6549 05:04:34,741 --> 05:04:37,744 and clear points of contact for ongoing communication. 6550 05:04:37,911 --> 05:04:39,713 While you cannot stop federal enforcement. 6551 05:04:39,713 --> 05:04:42,415 You can act to protect municipal resources. 6552 05:04:42,415 --> 05:04:44,417 That includes insisting on assurances 6553 05:04:44,417 --> 05:04:47,620 that federal operations will not drain city emergency services, 6554 05:04:47,987 --> 05:04:51,324 create jobs and public safety, or endanger any persons life. 6555 05:04:52,225 --> 05:04:54,194 You do have the power to limit cooperation 6556 05:04:54,194 --> 05:04:54,861 between city 6557 05:04:54,861 --> 05:04:56,730 law enforcement and federal immigration 6558 05:04:56,730 --> 05:04:59,099 enforcement beyond what the law requires, 6559 05:04:59,099 --> 05:05:00,567 such as implementing policies 6560 05:05:00,567 --> 05:05:03,570 restricting local involvement in immigration, arrests 6561 05:05:03,570 --> 05:05:06,573 detainees, or information shared unless required by law. 6562 05:05:06,940 --> 05:05:08,241 Many cities have done this. 6563 05:05:08,241 --> 05:05:11,878 Now it is your turn as a third generation Hispanic immigrant. 6564 05:05:11,911 --> 05:05:14,881 I've seen how these practices affect my family, our neighbors, 6565 05:05:14,881 --> 05:05:16,983 and our sense of safety and equity. 6566 05:05:16,983 --> 05:05:19,919 I stand here asking you, as the elected officials charged 6567 05:05:19,919 --> 05:05:21,021 with providing safety 6568 05:05:21,021 --> 05:05:22,822 and equitable care for all residents, 6569 05:05:22,822 --> 05:05:24,924 to listen to the voices of your constituents, 6570 05:05:26,159 --> 05:05:27,861 to use the power you do have, 6571 05:05:27,861 --> 05:05:30,063 and to act in ways that protect our community, 6572 05:05:30,063 --> 05:05:32,465 uphold human rights and demand accountability. 6573 05:05:32,465 --> 05:05:35,468 Thank you. 6574 05:05:39,539 --> 05:05:40,340 Good evening. 6575 05:05:40,340 --> 05:05:42,375 Good evening to you, mayor and the council. 6576 05:05:42,375 --> 05:05:43,743 My name is Kelly Oubre. 6577 05:05:43,743 --> 05:05:45,245 I live on Bullard and Cactus. 6578 05:05:45,245 --> 05:05:46,679 And I can see this detention center 6579 05:05:46,679 --> 05:05:48,348 from points in my neighborhood. 6580 05:05:48,348 --> 05:05:50,917 I can see this building from my school. 6581 05:05:50,917 --> 05:05:52,585 That being said, I'm a current student 6582 05:05:52,585 --> 05:05:54,421 at Desert High School in the student body. 6583 05:05:54,421 --> 05:05:55,455 Vice president. 6584 05:05:55,455 --> 05:05:59,259 The GPA of GPA of 4.3 before anyone passes me off 6585 05:05:59,259 --> 05:06:00,794 as young and dumb. 6586 05:06:00,794 --> 05:06:02,962 I would like to speak on behalf of my school 6587 05:06:02,962 --> 05:06:05,699 and represent it like my position calls me to. 6588 05:06:05,699 --> 05:06:06,633 In this past week, 6589 05:06:06,633 --> 05:06:09,736 we have had students organize three anti ice protest. 6590 05:06:10,070 --> 05:06:12,972 We have gotten online threats and comments for these protest. 6591 05:06:12,972 --> 05:06:16,409 One asking if they're allowed to run us over children 6592 05:06:16,943 --> 05:06:19,112 ice in this administration has created 6593 05:06:19,112 --> 05:06:20,680 hatred within their supporters 6594 05:06:20,680 --> 05:06:21,681 that is now affecting 6595 05:06:21,681 --> 05:06:24,117 our community as students at this school. 6596 05:06:24,117 --> 05:06:26,152 This detention center is a scary reality 6597 05:06:26,152 --> 05:06:27,387 we all had to deal with, 6598 05:06:27,387 --> 05:06:29,689 but we will not stay silent about it. 6599 05:06:29,689 --> 05:06:31,424 At my school, it is well known that we have 6600 05:06:31,424 --> 05:06:33,626 a predominantly Hispanic population. 6601 05:06:33,626 --> 05:06:35,995 Our minority is a majority there. 6602 05:06:35,995 --> 05:06:38,531 We as students are going to be heavily affected 6603 05:06:38,531 --> 05:06:40,967 as this detention center is right down our road. 6604 05:06:40,967 --> 05:06:42,302 These children and their families 6605 05:06:42,302 --> 05:06:45,105 are not the violent criminals the government says they are. 6606 05:06:45,105 --> 05:06:46,306 I get a pit in my stomach 6607 05:06:46,306 --> 05:06:47,841 when I think about how in a few months 6608 05:06:47,841 --> 05:06:50,610 I have to go to school, knowing humans are screaming for help 6609 05:06:50,610 --> 05:06:52,612 and not getting the rights they are. 6610 05:06:52,612 --> 05:06:54,147 It hurts me to know that my peers 6611 05:06:54,147 --> 05:06:56,049 are undoubtably going to be hurt. 6612 05:06:56,049 --> 05:06:58,618 The immigrant families that I've first handedly seen 6613 05:06:58,618 --> 05:07:01,621 build these students up to be hardworking and successful 6614 05:07:01,621 --> 05:07:03,723 may not be able to celebrate with them as they walk 6615 05:07:03,723 --> 05:07:04,791 the stage. 6616 05:07:04,791 --> 05:07:07,227 Students are at risk to come home with no family, 6617 05:07:07,227 --> 05:07:09,396 and have to take care of themselves who are dealing with 6618 05:07:09,396 --> 05:07:10,497 not knowing what is happening 6619 05:07:10,497 --> 05:07:12,766 to their families in this detention center. 6620 05:07:12,766 --> 05:07:14,334 If we can all agree on one thing, 6621 05:07:14,334 --> 05:07:15,635 no child should have to live 6622 05:07:15,635 --> 05:07:17,404 through these traumatic experiences 6623 05:07:17,404 --> 05:07:19,639 and be ripped away from their family. 6624 05:07:19,639 --> 05:07:22,142 We have all seen the damage and physical harm Ice 6625 05:07:22,142 --> 05:07:25,145 has done on peaceful protesters, citizens and immigrants. 6626 05:07:25,278 --> 05:07:25,879 Who's to say 6627 05:07:25,879 --> 05:07:28,882 they won't harm the students of Surprise and El Mirage? 6628 05:07:29,082 --> 05:07:31,117 Who's to say that they won't come after my school? 6629 05:07:31,117 --> 05:07:33,219 That's supposed to be a safe place for all. 6630 05:07:33,219 --> 05:07:34,587 If any of you care to protect 6631 05:07:34,587 --> 05:07:37,357 the students and children who are the future of the city, 6632 05:07:37,357 --> 05:07:39,359 then you will find a way to either contain this. 6633 05:07:39,359 --> 05:07:42,529 Ensure everyone is safe, or get this out of our city 6634 05:07:42,529 --> 05:07:45,065 by working with our Senators and Representatives. 6635 05:07:45,065 --> 05:07:45,598 Do not let 6636 05:07:45,598 --> 05:07:48,568 what happened in Germany during the 40s come back to us. 6637 05:07:48,735 --> 05:07:50,470 I pray to God that everybody will listen 6638 05:07:50,470 --> 05:07:53,106 to the voice of the children and future. And one last thing. 6639 05:07:53,106 --> 05:07:55,809 No one will ever be illegal on stolen land. 6640 05:07:55,809 --> 05:07:56,276 Thank you. 6641 05:08:05,118 --> 05:08:05,552 Good evening. 6642 05:08:05,552 --> 05:08:08,555 As you're still awake. 6643 05:08:08,688 --> 05:08:09,989 Hello. My name is Iverson. 6644 05:08:09,989 --> 05:08:12,992 I live in Peoria, just a few miles away from here. 6645 05:08:13,393 --> 05:08:15,628 I'm speaking because the proposed 1500 bed 6646 05:08:15,628 --> 05:08:18,898 detention facility will have impacts that extend the region. 6647 05:08:19,499 --> 05:08:21,801 The north side of the facility is less than three quarters 6648 05:08:21,801 --> 05:08:24,537 of a mile from Primrose School of Surprise. 6649 05:08:24,537 --> 05:08:26,973 And its proximity to other nearby schools 6650 05:08:26,973 --> 05:08:29,709 raises concerns for children and families. 6651 05:08:29,709 --> 05:08:31,611 Large detention centers also placed 6652 05:08:31,611 --> 05:08:33,313 demands on shared infrastructure. 6653 05:08:33,313 --> 05:08:36,549 It's been it's been spoken about all through this meeting, 6654 05:08:37,317 --> 05:08:39,719 including water, sewer, emergency services 6655 05:08:39,719 --> 05:08:41,287 and major roads used by commuters 6656 05:08:41,287 --> 05:08:44,290 throughout Peoria, Glendale, Elmira, Johnson City 6657 05:08:44,424 --> 05:08:47,761 traffic, emergency response and neighborhood safety concerns 6658 05:08:47,761 --> 05:08:49,829 do not stop at surprised city limits, 6659 05:08:49,829 --> 05:08:52,832 making regional oversight critical. 6660 05:08:52,966 --> 05:08:55,869 That means it's going to reach my city. 6661 05:08:56,936 --> 05:08:59,005 While the city cannot prevent Ice from operating 6662 05:08:59,005 --> 05:09:01,341 as a federal agency, it has established 6663 05:09:01,341 --> 05:09:03,476 legal and ethical processes to ensure that 6664 05:09:03,476 --> 05:09:06,813 any facility operates in a way that protects the community 6665 05:09:07,380 --> 05:09:10,050 through zoning and building fire and life safety codes. 6666 05:09:10,050 --> 05:09:12,018 The city can guide and coordinate compliance 6667 05:09:12,018 --> 05:09:14,554 to ensure that infrastructure, safety 6668 05:09:14,554 --> 05:09:16,923 and neighborhood concerns are fully addressed 6669 05:09:16,923 --> 05:09:20,293 under the National Environmental Policy Act, or Nepa, 6670 05:09:20,660 --> 05:09:24,030 Ice is required to evaluate the environmental impacts 6671 05:09:24,030 --> 05:09:25,799 of converting the warehouse. 6672 05:09:25,799 --> 05:09:29,035 This includes traffic safety, land use, and effects 6673 05:09:29,035 --> 05:09:30,570 on surrounding neighborhoods and school 6674 05:09:30,570 --> 05:09:32,806 before final decisions are made. 6675 05:09:32,806 --> 05:09:36,509 Nepa also mandates meaningful public participation, 6676 05:09:36,776 --> 05:09:40,547 which ensures comments like ours are considerate in the review. 6677 05:09:41,047 --> 05:09:43,650 This shows the importance of public oversight 6678 05:09:43,650 --> 05:09:44,918 and local review. 6679 05:09:44,918 --> 05:09:48,088 While Nepa does not guarantee a specific outcome, it requires 6680 05:09:48,088 --> 05:09:51,725 the potential impacts or that potential impacts 6681 05:09:52,392 --> 05:09:56,129 are assessed and alternatives eternities are evaluated. 6682 05:09:56,563 --> 05:10:01,368 I urge you, council, mayor and council to stay focused, strong. 6683 05:10:01,401 --> 05:10:04,304 Exercise all the available local authority 6684 05:10:04,304 --> 05:10:05,338 authority that you have. 6685 05:10:05,338 --> 05:10:08,341 Ensure Nepa processes are fully followed, 6686 05:10:08,341 --> 05:10:10,677 and give our community a real voice in decisions 6687 05:10:10,677 --> 05:10:13,680 that will affect both surprise and the surrounding West Valley. 6688 05:10:13,980 --> 05:10:16,716 This is not just about surprise, it is about protecting 6689 05:10:16,716 --> 05:10:19,719 children, families and shared resources across the region. 6690 05:10:19,919 --> 05:10:20,920 And what I want to say 6691 05:10:20,920 --> 05:10:25,091 is that I hope you recognize in your constituency the power, 6692 05:10:25,091 --> 05:10:28,828 the courage and the wisdom that you have in your city. 6693 05:10:29,763 --> 05:10:30,563 In the city of 6694 05:10:30,563 --> 05:10:33,566 Peoria, we had a group of, 6695 05:10:33,733 --> 05:10:36,136 citizens that stood up for something 6696 05:10:36,136 --> 05:10:39,139 that they did not want in Peoria, and they won. 6697 05:10:39,506 --> 05:10:42,742 So constituents know that you can stand up 6698 05:10:42,742 --> 05:10:45,745 and you can fight for stuff. 6699 05:10:48,681 --> 05:10:50,316 Okay. 6700 05:10:50,316 --> 05:10:51,951 Good evening. Good evening. 6701 05:10:51,951 --> 05:10:53,086 Excuse me. My voice is raspy. 6702 05:10:53,086 --> 05:10:56,056 I was among the thousand others protesting outside. 6703 05:10:56,056 --> 05:10:59,059 My name is Isaac Barrio and I live on Greenway in the 303. 6704 05:10:59,592 --> 05:11:01,061 I'm here to urge you, like the many others, 6705 05:11:01,061 --> 05:11:02,629 to do everything in your power 6706 05:11:02,629 --> 05:11:04,597 to stop this facility. And that includes 6707 05:11:04,597 --> 05:11:07,167 ending the contract with Fox safety cameras. 6708 05:11:07,167 --> 05:11:09,502 These systems don't just capture license plates, 6709 05:11:09,502 --> 05:11:12,205 they enable mass warrantless surveillance. 6710 05:11:12,205 --> 05:11:15,408 People going to work, school, church, doctor's appointments 6711 05:11:16,076 --> 05:11:19,979 all tracked without their consent and or suspicion. 6712 05:11:20,780 --> 05:11:22,282 That's not what public safety looks like 6713 05:11:23,483 --> 05:11:25,018 in a free society. 6714 05:11:25,018 --> 05:11:26,553 What makes what makes this 6715 05:11:26,553 --> 05:11:28,888 especially dangerous is how the data is used. 6716 05:11:28,888 --> 05:11:29,622 Multiple independent 6717 05:11:29,622 --> 05:11:32,625 studies have found that these cameras are unencrypted, 6718 05:11:32,792 --> 05:11:36,129 easy to hack, and use by federal agencies like Ice and DHS, 6719 05:11:36,463 --> 05:11:37,931 which have documented history 6720 05:11:37,931 --> 05:11:41,000 of using surveillance tools to target, track and intimidate 6721 05:11:41,000 --> 05:11:44,003 immigrant communities and political dissent. 6722 05:11:44,137 --> 05:11:46,072 This turns our city infrastructure into a pipeline 6723 05:11:46,072 --> 05:11:49,075 for surveillance and abuse, often without transparency, 6724 05:11:49,376 --> 05:11:52,112 oversight, or meaningful accountability. 6725 05:11:52,112 --> 05:11:55,115 Privacy is not a luxury is a constitutional right 6726 05:11:55,348 --> 05:11:58,251 with the government, the surprise government, 6727 05:11:58,251 --> 05:12:00,553 collecting and sharing this data on innocent people, 6728 05:12:00,553 --> 05:12:03,656 it chills free movement, free association and free speech 6729 05:12:04,190 --> 05:12:06,259 can mean these become afraid, not safer. 6730 05:12:06,259 --> 05:12:07,994 Surprise to invest in safety measures 6731 05:12:07,994 --> 05:12:09,462 that respect civil liberties 6732 05:12:09,462 --> 05:12:10,997 not technologies that normalize 6733 05:12:10,997 --> 05:12:13,233 constant monitoring and federal overreach. 6734 05:12:13,233 --> 05:12:16,169 Ending this kind of contract with is a clear statement 6735 05:12:16,169 --> 05:12:19,672 that the city values our rights, dignity, trust over fear, 6736 05:12:19,939 --> 05:12:21,708 and it stands up to this concentration camp 6737 05:12:21,708 --> 05:12:23,143 and the technocracy. 6738 05:12:23,143 --> 05:12:25,879 This is something you can act upon now. 6739 05:12:25,879 --> 05:12:26,513 Will you act? 6740 05:12:28,014 --> 05:12:31,017 Thank you. 6741 05:12:34,788 --> 05:12:37,390 Good evening. 6742 05:12:37,390 --> 05:12:38,324 Good evening. Oh. 6743 05:12:38,324 --> 05:12:39,025 Oh, there you go. 6744 05:12:39,025 --> 05:12:41,428 Good evening. My name is Scotty Nixon. 6745 05:12:41,428 --> 05:12:44,364 25. I've lived in surprise my entire life. 6746 05:12:44,364 --> 05:12:45,265 I've had the privilege 6747 05:12:45,265 --> 05:12:48,268 of really seeing the change in this city. 6748 05:12:48,301 --> 05:12:50,937 I saw a lot of people grow through these changes. 6749 05:12:50,937 --> 05:12:53,606 And instead of separating, we all came together. 6750 05:12:53,606 --> 05:12:56,543 And I especially got to see that in 2020. 6751 05:12:56,543 --> 05:12:59,045 I led one of the first protests out here. 6752 05:12:59,045 --> 05:13:01,281 I don't know if we remember BLM surprise. 6753 05:13:01,281 --> 05:13:04,284 We fought a lot of perspectives, negative ones. 6754 05:13:05,151 --> 05:13:07,854 I had a lot of uncomfortable conversations with people 6755 05:13:07,854 --> 05:13:09,723 throwing slurs my way. 6756 05:13:09,723 --> 05:13:14,694 A lot of people who lacked, true idea of a bigger perspective. 6757 05:13:14,694 --> 05:13:16,529 And that's one thing we did back 6758 05:13:16,529 --> 05:13:18,198 then was spread a lot of good perspective. 6759 05:13:18,198 --> 05:13:20,867 We brought people together and showed 6760 05:13:20,867 --> 05:13:22,736 what a city really looks like, that cares 6761 05:13:22,736 --> 05:13:24,637 about their community, that cares about one another. 6762 05:13:24,637 --> 05:13:28,174 In all your neighbors, especially tonight, it's 1114. 6763 05:13:29,075 --> 05:13:31,010 When did this start? At six? 6764 05:13:31,010 --> 05:13:31,478 I don't know if there's 6765 05:13:31,478 --> 05:13:34,481 still people out of sight, but I hope you guys understand. 6766 05:13:34,681 --> 05:13:37,851 I know the power that the people have. 6767 05:13:38,118 --> 05:13:41,988 I know the power that one person has to make big change. 6768 05:13:42,322 --> 05:13:45,325 And if you guys don't do that, we will. 6769 05:13:45,325 --> 05:13:48,328 And I hope you have our back in that process as well. 6770 05:13:48,428 --> 05:13:50,830 I really believe Jack Hastings. 6771 05:13:52,632 --> 05:13:53,099 Awesome. 6772 05:13:53,099 --> 05:13:53,833 I believe for you. 6773 05:13:53,833 --> 05:13:56,436 I saw you fall asleep laughing over there with Mr. 6774 05:13:56,436 --> 05:13:57,637 City Attorney. 6775 05:13:57,637 --> 05:13:59,906 I don't know what's so funny right now. 6776 05:13:59,906 --> 05:14:01,841 This is not a laughing matter. 6777 05:14:01,841 --> 05:14:04,144 I understand. It's been a long day. 6778 05:14:04,144 --> 05:14:06,679 I've seen you since 2020. 6779 05:14:06,679 --> 05:14:09,182 I haven't seen shown one more ounce of care 6780 05:14:09,182 --> 05:14:12,185 for anything. 6781 05:14:12,619 --> 05:14:14,387 Come on. 6782 05:14:14,387 --> 05:14:17,390 I know you're up for reelection this year to 6783 05:14:18,124 --> 05:14:19,626 Nick Haney. You as well. 6784 05:14:19,626 --> 05:14:22,629 You guys are the youngest members on this council. 6785 05:14:22,896 --> 05:14:25,365 Speak up, speak out. 6786 05:14:25,365 --> 05:14:26,733 Do something. 6787 05:14:26,733 --> 05:14:29,002 I know you guys don't have a lot of power 6788 05:14:29,002 --> 05:14:32,005 against the federal government, but you have a voice as well. 6789 05:14:32,138 --> 05:14:33,206 You are a party of the people. 6790 05:14:33,206 --> 05:14:34,774 You know that, right? 6791 05:14:34,774 --> 05:14:37,310 Help us or we will help ourselves. 6792 05:14:37,310 --> 05:14:38,445 And that's not a threat. 6793 05:14:38,445 --> 05:14:40,980 We just want to feel safe and we will keep ourselves safe. 6794 05:14:42,048 --> 05:14:45,051 Thank you. 6795 05:14:49,289 --> 05:14:51,791 I just came to you. 6796 05:14:51,791 --> 05:14:54,160 I want to thank every. That's that's everybody. Correct. 6797 05:14:54,160 --> 05:14:56,129 I just want to make sure that there's 6798 05:14:56,129 --> 05:14:59,132 not anyone else whose name that I didn't call. 6799 05:14:59,432 --> 05:15:00,400 Okay? 6800 05:15:00,400 --> 05:15:02,135 So I want to thank everybody for coming in here. 6801 05:15:02,135 --> 05:15:03,670 We hear you. 6802 05:15:03,670 --> 05:15:05,705 I want to consider 6803 05:15:05,705 --> 05:15:08,708 your voice as impactful and as powerful. 6804 05:15:10,009 --> 05:15:11,811 As our other future agenda items 6805 05:15:11,811 --> 05:15:14,814 or business the council members want to bring forward. 6806 05:15:15,081 --> 05:15:17,117 No council reports. 6807 05:15:17,117 --> 05:15:18,418 No, no. 6808 05:15:18,418 --> 05:15:20,020 Okay, 6809 05:15:20,020 --> 05:15:22,355 I'll entertain a motion to adjourn. 6810 05:15:22,355 --> 05:15:23,757 Moved to adjourn. Second. 6811 05:15:23,757 --> 05:15:26,292 All in favor, say aye. Opposed or adjourned.