1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:10,840 The meeting to order for September 8, 2026, and he's already standing, so I'll ask Commissioner Tucker to ask him, in case he didn't play it. 2 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:21,760 That's right. The Russia's Heavenly Father, we want to thank you again for all the many mercies and miracles, the grace that he stood upon each and every one I was. 3 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:28,200 or you know our need before we even ask it and you know our struggles, you know our challenges. 4 00:00:29,740 --> 00:00:36,280 And we thank you, Lord, we can come to you with those issues and that you're already there even before we ask. 5 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:43,540 And always ask that you be with this meeting, this gathering tonight that all we do be in your honor and your will and your glory. 6 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:51,240 And that we take these things, these issues, seriously and we do the best we can, that the outcome would be. 7 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:59,250 Please and your people and in your will watch overslead God directives protect us, but with us and all we do and say 8 00:00:59,620 --> 00:01:04,240 And thank you for all your blessings again in Jesus name I pray. Amen. 9 00:01:08,320 --> 00:01:09,350 I'm glad to leave 10 00:01:09,350 --> 00:01:16,650 to the flag of the United States for America, and to the Republic for which it can be 11 00:01:16,650 --> 00:01:21,790 one nation, and there are individuals with liberty and justice. 12 00:01:27,430 --> 00:01:30,070 Look in for approval of this thing, Zagenda. 13 00:01:32,370 --> 00:01:33,290 Question to approve. 14 00:01:34,990 --> 00:01:40,730 Before we approve that agenda, can we add in under boards and committees, conversation 15 00:01:40,730 --> 00:01:42,650 about data center steering committee? 16 00:01:47,130 --> 00:01:54,270 Yes. I have a motion from Commissioner Harris, a second from Commissioner Marion. He 17 00:01:54,270 --> 00:01:54,790 discussion. 18 00:01:57,060 --> 00:02:01,260 I'll in favor please say aye. Aye. Aye. And I said it. Next is our 19 00:02:01,260 --> 00:02:04,980 consent agenda. I'll turn this portion over to Chris Konoffir County. Thank you, 20 00:02:05,100 --> 00:02:10,100 Mr. Chairman. First item is a professional services request for data network solutions to assist 21 00:02:10,100 --> 00:02:16,300 MIS to excuse me. MIS Department over a 10 day period. Next is the long distance service 22 00:02:16,300 --> 00:02:20,120 provider adjustment for three county to move from the state of North Carolina over the 23 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:25,620 story communications. Next item is health nutrition center purchase requests for a 24 00:02:25,620 --> 00:02:31,180 ultrasonic ceiling machine and specialty tips. Next is the Constitution Week 25 00:02:31,180 --> 00:02:36,600 Proclamation. Next item is budget amendment number two, which covers invest in 26 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:46,280 three, carry $4, the old chill removal and temporary chill are used at the 27 00:02:46,820 --> 00:02:52,520 veterans grant and ambulance purchase school capital project ordinance for elk and high school. 28 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,320 Next is the strap grant application and acceptance. 29 00:02:56,980 --> 00:02:59,180 Now this is an ordinance for elk and high school. 30 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:04,900 And finally, school capital project ordinances is one for elk and elementary, one for the E-story high school. 31 00:03:05,020 --> 00:03:10,120 Excuse me, the elk and high school auditorium lighting project elk and high school roof. 32 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,200 And these are all lottery funded. 33 00:03:12,260 --> 00:03:13,520 And that's all Mr. Chairman. 34 00:03:14,020 --> 00:03:15,060 Thank you. 35 00:03:15,060 --> 00:03:17,560 to have a motion for the Senate agenda. 36 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,180 I just need to have a prayer for the consent. 37 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,320 Motion by Commissioner Hype, do I have a second? 38 00:03:23,020 --> 00:03:23,420 Second. 39 00:03:23,640 --> 00:03:27,240 Second by Commissioner Tucker, any discussion on a favor please say aye. 40 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:28,260 Aye. 41 00:03:28,340 --> 00:03:30,160 And I said it. 42 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,140 Next is Amber Umberister, Deputy Kenny Manjo. 43 00:03:36,010 --> 00:03:36,750 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 44 00:03:37,130 --> 00:03:41,510 We prepared a resolution for the Board's consideration tonight, and I'd like to take a moment to read that. 45 00:03:41,530 --> 00:03:42,610 That's okay with the Board. 46 00:03:42,610 --> 00:03:49,730 A resolution to NCDOT regarding design alternatives for NC-89 modernization project, whereas 47 00:03:49,730 --> 00:03:54,730 in C-89 West Pond Street is a major thoroughfare that is heavily utilized by Suri County 48 00:03:54,730 --> 00:03:57,130 residents, schools, businesses, and tourists. 49 00:03:57,890 --> 00:04:02,250 And whereas the North Carolina Department of Transportation in CDOT maintains this highway 50 00:04:02,250 --> 00:04:06,390 and has authority over state-operated road projects, which includes project management, 51 00:04:06,390 --> 00:04:12,890 design and engineering, and whereas in CDOT is proposing modernization of NC89, West Palm Street 52 00:04:12,890 --> 00:04:20,130 from Toast Road, State Road, 1387 to Pine Road, Red Road, SR1396, and Improvement of the Pine 53 00:04:20,130 --> 00:04:25,230 Road intersection, and whereas in CDOT's proposal is part of the State Transportation Improvement 54 00:04:25,230 --> 00:04:33,360 Program, which is reference this project number R5905, and whereas project number R5905 is 55 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:39,480 for the purpose of improving mobility and safety through the NC-89 corridor for existing traffic demand 56 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:44,640 and future growth. And whereas a public input meeting was held by NCDOT at North 57 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:50,380 Surrey Haskell on July 16, 26, to share the project design and receive public feedback. 58 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:55,940 And whereas citizens conveyed project concerns directly to NCDOT at the public and put meeting 59 00:04:55,940 --> 00:05:01,380 and during the comment period through August 6, 26, and whereas the Surrey County Board 60 00:05:01,380 --> 00:05:05,520 commissioners, provides governing authority and representation for the people of the County 61 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,980 of Surrey in North Carolina, and we're as citizens have shared comments and expressed concerns 62 00:05:09,980 --> 00:05:14,820 to members of the Board of Commissioners through written and verbal communication and most recently 63 00:05:14,820 --> 00:05:17,860 during the August 17th, 2026 Board of Commissioners meeting. 64 00:05:18,780 --> 00:05:23,200 And we're as the Board of Commissioners appreciates the work of NCDOT and understands the necessity 65 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:28,160 of safety improvements and modernization for NCD-89, and we're as alternative approaches 66 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:33,420 could achieve similar safety in my ability goals with reduced cost and or fewer impacts. 67 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,700 And whereas it is in the best interest of all parties, public and private to ensure 68 00:05:37,700 --> 00:05:42,440 that the selected project design delivers the intended benefits while minimizing adverse 69 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,620 impacts on private property and local traffic. 70 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,580 Now therefore, be it resolved, the South County Board of Commissioners requests in CDAT, fully 71 00:05:49,580 --> 00:05:55,900 consider community feedback and consider review and evaluate all possible project designs 72 00:05:55,900 --> 00:05:58,540 to modernize and approve the safety of NC89, 73 00:05:59,140 --> 00:06:01,860 while minimizing negative impacts to effective citizens, 74 00:06:02,580 --> 00:06:05,520 adopted this the eight safe September 26th. 75 00:06:05,700 --> 00:06:07,840 Thank you for allowing me to read that, Mr. Chairman, 76 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,820 and I'll turn it back over to you for a really good discussion. 77 00:06:13,330 --> 00:06:15,290 Any discussion on this? 78 00:06:16,170 --> 00:06:20,990 I will say that I had a privilege of sitting with Dan Cocker, 79 00:06:21,150 --> 00:06:23,470 Saturday at a football game in Beijing, 80 00:06:23,470 --> 00:06:27,330 And your state representatives are listening as well. 81 00:06:27,870 --> 00:06:31,930 And so I feel really, really good about that. 82 00:06:32,130 --> 00:06:34,190 He had talked to several people in the DOT. 83 00:06:36,610 --> 00:06:39,270 And I'm sure that Senator Settle has been the same, 84 00:06:39,510 --> 00:06:41,530 but I do know that Dan Calger, you know, 85 00:06:41,530 --> 00:06:45,330 had a conversation about 89 sitting at a football game and being so. 86 00:06:45,530 --> 00:06:47,570 I feel like they are on it. 87 00:06:47,750 --> 00:06:52,330 And I feel like, you know, your concerns are being heard. 88 00:06:53,010 --> 00:06:58,510 by the folks at DOT. So that's what we're at right now. 89 00:06:59,390 --> 00:07:00,030 Any other comments? 90 00:07:00,730 --> 00:07:10,590 I'll also say that I've said all along that the DOT does what the DOT will do 91 00:07:10,590 --> 00:07:16,350 and to some extent I believe that's true. We don't have jurisdiction over some of the state agencies 92 00:07:16,350 --> 00:07:22,810 like the forester service or the state highway patrol or other things. We do have a seat at 93 00:07:22,810 --> 00:07:27,030 the table. We do hear kind of what's going on at times from time to time on this board. 94 00:07:27,870 --> 00:07:29,290 But with that said, we do not respond. 95 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:45,320 And we said we would hear what your concerns are. Look at the people that are going to suffer catastrophic in their opinion. If no one else is, and I believe it would be catastrophic if I live there. So I was going to move in the porch. 96 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:59,660 But we have heard you, and we have said we will pass that on. And I believe everybody on this board has done that. I know I have personally. I have spoken with our state representatives individually about this. 97 00:07:59,660 --> 00:08:09,700 We have passed your concerns along, and we said, look, we're not engineers, we didn't draw up this design, we never saw this design, do you presented it? 98 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:18,040 And we can't create a design, but give these people your best attention and give these people your best focus. 99 00:08:18,780 --> 00:08:25,280 And if we need to improve the plan and everybody, no one disagrees with that, I think everybody's sitting in this room and everybody we've heard from, 100 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:29,040 there needs to be appropriate brands on how we're 89 projects. 101 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,900 But we've asked them to do the very, come over the very best projects that can as little 102 00:08:33,900 --> 00:08:39,700 and truce of into the communities it can be. And I have also had that conversation with Michael 103 00:08:39,700 --> 00:08:47,280 Poe, our division, 11 director from the North Carolina DOT, and what we have done for you 104 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:52,140 is we've helped pass your message along to the people that we know to pass it along to. 105 00:08:52,140 --> 00:08:56,480 And my opinion is they will hear you. 106 00:08:57,020 --> 00:09:00,760 I'm not going to predict what kind of plan they'll come up with, but I believe it will 107 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,280 rest during their final outcome. 108 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:07,560 I would advise you people to continue to chime in with them. 109 00:09:07,740 --> 00:09:11,680 These numbers and contact information links you have. 110 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:17,040 I'm told, even though they gave a deadline, they still get your messages. 111 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:18,920 They still hear your concerns. 112 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:23,920 I would ask you continue to go and follow yourself in the meetings if they make them available. 113 00:09:24,220 --> 00:09:28,120 I do believe there will be other opportunities for you to express your concerns. 114 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:30,020 And we have passed that along. 115 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:36,380 So with that Mr. Chairman, I believe everybody on this board has done what we can do. 116 00:09:39,970 --> 00:09:41,170 Any other discussion? 117 00:09:42,590 --> 00:09:44,250 Motion to a pretty good resolution. 118 00:09:44,250 --> 00:09:50,790 Make a motion. We approve the resolution starting how we're 89. 119 00:09:51,310 --> 00:09:53,990 Have a motion by Commissioner Merin to have a second. 120 00:09:53,990 --> 00:09:59,870 Second by Commissioner High any discussion on favor please say aye. 121 00:10:05,580 --> 00:10:08,640 Andrew Wright, boards and committees. 122 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:10,680 Thank you, Mr Chairman. 123 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:17,780 We have five separate boards and committees with seats expiring or vacancies. 124 00:10:17,780 --> 00:10:19,360 So I'll just read through these. 125 00:10:19,620 --> 00:10:26,300 The first is the fire commission is a three year term with one seat set to expire, currently 126 00:10:26,300 --> 00:10:32,080 held by Pepper Gallion, we have new applications on file and continue to receive applications 127 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:32,600 there. 128 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:39,280 Next, we have the Northern Regional Hospital Board of Trustees with one seat set to expire. 129 00:10:39,300 --> 00:10:42,580 That's currently held by Ms. Ann Bond. 130 00:10:43,340 --> 00:10:49,540 Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee is a three-year term with one current vacancy, 131 00:10:50,660 --> 00:10:55,060 a man-aary district, previously held by Donny Johnson and we receive a new application 132 00:10:55,700 --> 00:11:00,420 from Mr. Daniel Poindester, a story-counting Board of Health. 133 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:05,680 We receive a memo that's included in your packet from the Health Director, Samantha Ange, 134 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:11,300 with a recommendation and for one vacancy there, and that's for a pharmacist member. 135 00:11:11,300 --> 00:11:18,920 received an application from Ruth Latamore, Ruth and Latamore. And then finally, as Commissioner 136 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:25,660 Hiamitch, and we have new appointments to make on the Data Center Steering Committee. 137 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,740 Yeah, I'll make a motion to re-appoint Pepper Gallion to the Fire Commission. 138 00:11:34,260 --> 00:11:38,820 Motion by Commissioner Hiot. I'll second that. Any discussion? 139 00:11:40,540 --> 00:11:41,880 I'm on a favor, please say aye. 140 00:11:45,890 --> 00:11:50,910 I'll make a motion that we appoint and bond to the Northern Regional Board of Trustees. 141 00:11:52,450 --> 00:11:53,370 Do I have a second? 142 00:11:53,770 --> 00:11:55,150 Second, back Commissioner Tucker. 143 00:11:55,730 --> 00:11:58,250 He'd a discussion on a favor, please say aye. 144 00:12:00,310 --> 00:12:02,250 Parks and Rec and Advisory Committee. 145 00:12:03,850 --> 00:12:05,290 And then your point actually is in silence. 146 00:12:05,770 --> 00:12:07,370 So he's, we kind of want that. 147 00:12:07,370 --> 00:12:14,470 Tony with Donna Johnson was a manager representative and Larry Johnson was representing 148 00:12:14,470 --> 00:12:21,810 East District and so we'll put Larry Johnson back in the manager district where he's 149 00:12:21,810 --> 00:12:26,650 supposed to be and then your Johnson will represent the East then your point to extra 150 00:12:26,650 --> 00:12:35,910 will represent the East District. Now I'll make that much have a motion back. Commissioner 151 00:12:35,910 --> 00:12:37,910 All in favour please say aye. 152 00:12:38,890 --> 00:12:38,990 Aye. 153 00:12:38,990 --> 00:12:39,030 Aye. 154 00:12:40,090 --> 00:12:41,610 Surrey County Board of Health. 155 00:12:42,150 --> 00:12:43,610 Mrs. Ruthie and Latable. 156 00:12:45,170 --> 00:12:46,370 I make that motion. 157 00:12:47,430 --> 00:12:50,410 Commissioner, I make some motion. I'll second that any discussion. 158 00:12:51,750 --> 00:12:53,850 All in favour please say aye. Aye. 159 00:12:53,990 --> 00:12:55,330 Aye. And I say that. 160 00:12:56,980 --> 00:12:58,600 Data Center steering committee. 161 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:00,820 All right, since we passed the moratorium, 162 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,560 we were to form a steering committee. 163 00:13:03,560 --> 00:13:15,660 Well, the data center and so I would like to, I'd like to read these names and y'all can agree or have any comments later. 164 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:24,580 Janet Ferris, Greg Casteavans, Kelly Cummins, Amber Armbrister, Adrian Gardner, 80 Harris and Melissa Hayat. 165 00:13:25,860 --> 00:13:30,680 I have mostly about commissioner Mary and do I have a second. Second, by commissioner Tucker, any discussion? 166 00:13:31,300 --> 00:13:35,000 on if all in favor please say hi. 167 00:13:38,820 --> 00:13:40,380 Now it's time for open for anyone 168 00:13:40,380 --> 00:13:42,500 wishing to come for to discuss county business. 169 00:13:42,660 --> 00:13:45,220 Please do so so that you'd aim and you tell a phone number. 170 00:13:48,380 --> 00:13:50,740 I have a little packet I'd like to give you guys first. 171 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,360 That's okay. 172 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:54,780 Very well, I'm a little raspy today. 173 00:14:15,700 --> 00:14:17,760 And you said name and phone number. 174 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:26,180 Okay, my name is Deborah Colour and my phone number is 336-71-0-0-0-0-0-0. 175 00:14:26,180 --> 00:14:37,060 I did not make that up. It is real. Most people will get me like you're crazy. Okay, so I'd like to take a few minutes to enlighten the community on the use of flop cameras in Surrey County. 176 00:14:38,060 --> 00:14:44,180 I truly believe that most people in this county are not aware that they're being continuously tracked. 177 00:14:45,500 --> 00:14:50,500 My decision to speak tonight is the result of what happened after my son who was with me tonight, 178 00:14:50,500 --> 00:14:55,640 Request the information on flop camera usage from the Sheriff's Department back in July. 179 00:14:57,100 --> 00:14:59,980 All of the commissioners, the county manager and the... 180 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:05,900 The matter in use were copied on everything, and there was complete silence. He got no response whatsoever. 181 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:15,220 He did receive information from the sheriff's department that part of it was inaccurate. I will elaborate on that. 182 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:20,760 We became more concerned when the matter in use published an article that stated, 183 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,100 Mount Ares does not use block cameras. 184 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,400 We contact the Mount Ares news several times 185 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:30,060 and ask them via phone and email multiple times 186 00:15:30,060 --> 00:15:34,140 to clarify that Siri County does indeed have those cameras. 187 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,580 We got no response from them either. 188 00:15:37,260 --> 00:15:39,760 Also contact the WXI as a matter of fact, 189 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,440 and I'm still waiting to hear back from them. 190 00:15:42,300 --> 00:15:43,820 So the silence is deafening. 191 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,560 I would also like to share that our current mayor of Mount Ares 192 00:15:49,220 --> 00:15:54,380 said that we should all be living our lives such that we wouldn't care if we were being monitored. 193 00:15:55,300 --> 00:15:57,600 I do not believe that that and that was in the paper. 194 00:15:58,300 --> 00:16:00,220 I do not have for verbatim. 195 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:06,900 I don't think that's any way to show support for the freedom that our country has worked so hard to protect. 196 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:13,120 So on July 29, my son opened a request for six items from the Sheriff's Department. 197 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:19,320 He asks for contracts, policies, operating procedures, and or training manuals, 198 00:16:20,300 --> 00:16:23,700 a list of outside agencies with whom we're sharing our data, 199 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:28,400 and audit reports on the searches being conducted by the sheriff's department 200 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,700 and by searches from outside agencies. 201 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,860 Three of those six requests were fulfilled, 202 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:39,720 but we were dumbfounded by the responses on the other three requests. 203 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:46,100 We were instructed to contact flock directly for data that is maintained internally by the 204 00:16:46,100 --> 00:16:48,900 Sheriff's Department per their own policy. 205 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,660 Request for audits on searches were flat out denied. 206 00:16:54,420 --> 00:16:59,920 The response on that was that that is protected data that is totally not correct. 207 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:05,900 We were asking for who is accessing the data and why not the data itself. 208 00:17:05,900 --> 00:17:13,040 That is not protected information and I have to say when he went back and explained all this and provided 209 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,580 statutes and everything regulations. 210 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,100 The data was eventually provided. 211 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:23,500 We received responses on August the 14th and August the 24th. 212 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,580 So it took about three and a half weeks to get all of the data. 213 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,160 I understand sometimes that's just the way the the wheels turn. 214 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,420 But here's what we know and what the data shows. 215 00:17:33,420 --> 00:17:41,400 We have two cameras, one facing each direction that are located at the I-74 connector with US-52. 216 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,900 We have one on Westville Road on the east side of the county, right at the border with Stokes. 217 00:17:47,660 --> 00:17:54,460 We have one on East Pine Street in front of flat rock elementary, and that we're unclear if that one's county owned or private. 218 00:17:55,400 --> 00:18:01,860 2 on West Pine Street, 1 close to Mount Mary and 1 where the western, near the western border 219 00:18:01,860 --> 00:18:08,700 of Surrey, 1-6-01 near the southern border of Surrey, 1-2-6-8 near the southern border of 220 00:18:08,700 --> 00:18:13,140 Surrey, and 1-9-74 at the northern border of Surrey. 221 00:18:13,340 --> 00:18:17,740 So, if you heard all that, you realize the cat's sheriff's office is purchased nine cameras. 222 00:18:18,180 --> 00:18:20,700 8 of them are standard ones fixed on a pole. 223 00:18:20,700 --> 00:18:28,420 One is flex, it can be moved around, but basically every major route out of this county has a camera. 224 00:18:29,180 --> 00:18:30,080 So we're being watched. 225 00:18:30,860 --> 00:18:36,260 As for the data, the sheriff's office owns their own record shown issues. 226 00:18:36,940 --> 00:18:40,180 There were searches for 102 traffic violations, 227 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:45,660 and two of those were even labeled as confirming driver's travel plans. 228 00:18:46,540 --> 00:18:55,960 North Carolina law expressly states that this data cannot be used to enforce traffic violations and doing so is a class one misdemeanor. 229 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:05,780 The packets we provided include the North Carolina statute on how this technology can and cannot be used to enforce these traffic violations. 230 00:19:05,780 --> 00:19:14,120 This data is supposed to be audited, so we're questioning why hasn't this activity been detected, stopped and explained. 231 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,680 This was a real eye opener. 232 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,520 Surrey is plugged into a much larger surveillance network. 233 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:27,060 That entire network has access to Surrey County data. 234 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:32,740 Countless law enforcement agencies can search our cameras anytime they want to. 235 00:19:32,740 --> 00:19:39,860 In five months, five months of data, there were over six million searches from other agencies. 236 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:47,000 And based on the sheriff's own audit report, less than 6,000 of those searches were done by them. 237 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:53,760 Also in that five months of data, nearly a half a million were labeled as traffic infraction. 238 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:55,740 It's not supposed to be used for that. 239 00:19:56,700 --> 00:20:00,800 I also want to point out that the sheriff's office policies need to be revised. 240 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:08,800 They revised this policy all this 24th of this year, but it still refers to cameras being 241 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,260 useful for criminal justice purposes. 242 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:16,460 North Carolina General statute 20-131 no longer uses that raw term. 243 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:22,640 So the shares policy actually allows has a broader scope than the law allows. 244 00:20:23,740 --> 00:20:28,340 That same policy also refers to a North Carolina statute that was repealed and replaced 245 00:20:28,340 --> 00:20:30,240 January 24th. 246 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,500 So that needs to be some attention given to that. 247 00:20:34,380 --> 00:20:39,320 We're all hearing about the media coverage with the privacy concerns, with 248 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,520 lock cameras throughout the U.S. all around us, of course. 249 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,680 And I believe we should all be concerned. 250 00:20:46,300 --> 00:20:51,200 Why should the citizens of Surrey County accept the warrantless routine 251 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,900 tracking of law abiding citizens? 252 00:20:54,500 --> 00:20:58,280 As I stated before, basically, every route out of this 253 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:07,600 County has a camera. There should not be a nationwide surveillance network capable of searching the movement of millions of innocent people. 254 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:17,700 Our request. So we're requesting that this board review the data and consider ending the sheriff's contract with the flood company. 255 00:21:17,700 --> 00:21:21,040 We spend about $30,000 a year on these cameras. 256 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:27,900 The county actually committed to roughly another $55,000 last month without any discussion 257 00:21:27,900 --> 00:21:28,920 as far as I know. 258 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,600 There was an automatic tune to your renewal that took effect. 259 00:21:33,860 --> 00:21:41,460 You guys were contacted prior to the 30-day period that we had to cancel the contract 260 00:21:41,460 --> 00:21:45,800 with Flock, but no action was taken unless I'm incorrect. 261 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,860 Please correct me if I'm wrong. 262 00:21:48,260 --> 00:21:54,440 At the very least, I'm asking that you stop any support, any additional support until the county 263 00:21:54,440 --> 00:22:02,580 attorney reviews the records and requires continuous audit on how the data is being used and who has access to it. 264 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:10,120 And most importantly, stop using the cameras until the public is told exactly how the data is being used and shared. 265 00:22:11,140 --> 00:22:12,340 Thank you. 266 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,560 He wanted us for open four. 267 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:28,520 Yeah, we're gonna get tired of me. 268 00:23:00,250 --> 00:23:10,690 Salih Adams, 336, 455, 0962. Good evening. I hope you remember me from last month. I came before you 269 00:23:10,690 --> 00:23:17,550 then because I'm concerned about the number of cats being euthanized at the County Animal Shelter. I told you 270 00:23:17,550 --> 00:23:27,450 about four perfectly adoptable kittens who spent nearly a month at Pet Sandsome Report were turned to the 271 00:23:27,450 --> 00:23:32,690 all four made it out through rescue. And last month I asked you to put our animal shelter on your 272 00:23:32,690 --> 00:23:39,910 radar and to consider whether that $200 option fee could be reduced. I hope you've had an opportunity 273 00:23:39,910 --> 00:23:45,090 since then to talk with shelter staff. And I asked some questions about the veterinary costs that 274 00:23:45,090 --> 00:23:52,220 drive the fee. Since then, I've done a little homework of my own and I just want to share with you 275 00:23:52,220 --> 00:23:58,460 adoption fees for our surrounding counties. To adopt the cat in Stokes County is $125. 276 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:08,740 Yet, can his $85, willks $75, Davey is $80, our Dale $65, 277 00:24:09,940 --> 00:24:15,740 Allegheny lists in the adoption fee of $50, and precise standard adoption rate is $125 or 278 00:24:15,740 --> 00:24:20,980 less, with the shelter also using promotional adoption pricing. And every bit of that is on 279 00:24:20,980 --> 00:24:24,820 online, you can double check it and I could be wrong, but that's what the websites are 280 00:24:24,820 --> 00:24:25,200 stating. 281 00:24:26,220 --> 00:24:28,600 Surrey County adoption rate is $200. 282 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:37,740 And I understand why I was told approximately $40 goes towards vaccines and $160 goes 283 00:24:37,740 --> 00:24:39,200 towards spay and neuter. 284 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,980 I absolutely support animals being spayed or neutered before adoption. 285 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,660 What I'm questioning is not the service, it's the price that we're paying for it. 286 00:24:47,660 --> 00:24:54,020 Our deal, for example, charge a $65, including vaccinations, rabies, deworming, 287 00:24:54,100 --> 00:24:59,940 fleet treatment, testing a microchip and spacer newter, Wilkes charge a 75 and works 288 00:24:59,940 --> 00:25:02,020 with multiple veterinary practices. 289 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,560 So other counties have found ways to provide these services without passing a $200 cost 290 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,300 onto the adopter, and that brings me to the pictures I've given you tonight. 291 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:22,840 Well, something has changed. 292 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,640 These are the three cats that are sitting at pets since right now, waiting for homes. 293 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,880 One is a kitten, and one is a teenager, and one is a senior. 294 00:25:31,180 --> 00:25:33,180 Each one calls $200 to adopt. 295 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,460 What's the realistic chance that someone walked into pet scents? 296 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,260 And it's prepared to spend $200 to take one home. 297 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,300 And more importantly, what happens when nobody does? 298 00:25:46,460 --> 00:25:47,920 These cats are running out of time. 299 00:25:48,420 --> 00:25:50,020 I'm not asking you to give the animals away. 300 00:25:50,060 --> 00:25:52,540 I'm asking you to find out what other counties are doing differently. 301 00:25:55,460 --> 00:25:56,380 Call them. 302 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:57,500 Ask them. 303 00:25:57,500 --> 00:26:01,940 How are they contracting veterinary services and could we do something similar here? 304 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,620 Lowering adoption fees won't solve our animal overpopulation problems, 305 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,440 spay and neuter is still the bigger battle. 306 00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:10,920 This is one piece of the problem that looks very fixable. 307 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,440 Last month, I asked you to look at numbers tonight. 308 00:26:13,500 --> 00:26:14,680 I'm asking you to look at faces. 309 00:26:27,860 --> 00:26:29,620 You want to look at numbers tonight? 310 00:26:39,580 --> 00:26:40,980 Tracy Hawks. 311 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:42,540 I'm going to keep this short tonight. 312 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,300 The last time I said before you, I asked you to listen to the concerns of the people 313 00:26:47,300 --> 00:26:51,400 along Highway 89 and then more than 1,800 people who have now signed our 314 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,100 petition tonight. 315 00:26:53,780 --> 00:26:56,400 I still feel want to say thank you for doing that and I'm so sorry that 316 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,300 I wasn't here to hear it or hear it. 317 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,680 Did hear the resolution and how we go. 318 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,380 We know that this resolution doesn't mean the work is finished and we still don't 319 00:27:06,380 --> 00:27:09,400 know exactly what the final plan for Highway 89 will look like. 320 00:27:09,820 --> 00:27:11,680 But it does mean that our community was heard. 321 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:12,720 That's important. 322 00:27:14,020 --> 00:27:18,220 We've been heard, the people who work there live there and own businesses and travel along 323 00:27:18,220 --> 00:27:21,160 this road also have a voice in what's next. 324 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,000 Thank you for listening to us. 325 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,980 Thank you for taking our concerns seriously and for standing with the people that you represent 326 00:27:26,980 --> 00:27:27,840 with the Labor Party. 327 00:27:28,180 --> 00:27:28,760 Thank you, Chris. 328 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:29,920 Thank you. 329 00:27:37,020 --> 00:27:47,020 This has, you want to come forward with the Constitutionary, and I'm going to take a, I'm 330 00:27:47,020 --> 00:27:51,720 solution or proclamation of my fault. 331 00:27:52,260 --> 00:27:57,380 Proclamation for Constitution Weeks, September 17, to the 23rd, 2026, commemorating the 332 00:27:57,380 --> 00:28:01,000 250th anniversary of the framing of the Constitution, the United States of America. 333 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:07,080 Whereas on September 17, 1787, the framers of the United States Constitution signed a revolutionary 334 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,920 framework and tended to form a more perfect union of established justice and secure the blessings 335 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:11,520 of liberty. 336 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,380 And we're as the enduring charter establish a government of the people, by the people, and 337 00:28:16,380 --> 00:28:21,220 for the people, grounded in the consent of the government, and protected by the system of shared 338 00:28:21,220 --> 00:28:22,560 powers and individual rights. 339 00:28:22,740 --> 00:28:27,320 And we're asked for 250 years of constitutional experiment, has got it our nation relying 340 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:32,240 on the active participation, vigilance, and civic responsibility of ordinary citizens, and 341 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,780 we're as local communities from the bedrock of American democracy, where the daily practice 342 00:28:36,780 --> 00:28:41,500 of liberty, local self-government, and mutual respect, bring our founding ideals to life, and 343 00:28:41,500 --> 00:28:47,640 as the historic milestone encourages residents of our country, of our county, to reflect upon 344 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,520 our shared constitutional history to embrace the principles of freedom and equality. 345 00:28:52,220 --> 00:28:55,240 Now, therefore, it will be resolved that I'll be able to go on chairman of the Siric County 346 00:28:55,240 --> 00:29:00,500 Water Commissioners do here here by proclaim the observance of the 250th Anniversary of the 347 00:29:00,500 --> 00:29:04,080 Frame in the United States Constitution, and call upon residents, schools, and community organizations 348 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:09,480 to celebrate this milestone of reflection, educational programs, and civic engagement. In witness 349 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:14,520 thereof. I have here on to set my hand and calls, the official seal, the County of Surrey 350 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:19,100 to be a fix. This is the eight-day of September, the year of our level of 2026. Dr. 351 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,160 This is the eight-day of September 2026 by the Surrey County Board of Commissioners, Bill 352 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,640 Goons Chairman, Eddie Harris, Vice Chairman, Melissa Hyatt, Mark Marin in the Han Tucker. 353 00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:33,740 Thank you. Thank you for having me again this year. The aims of the Constitution Week 354 00:29:33,740 --> 00:29:36,700 celebration are several, as you alluded to. 355 00:29:37,020 --> 00:29:39,280 One is to emphasize citizens' responsibilities 356 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,120 for protecting, defending the Constitution. 357 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,180 Another one is to inform citizens 358 00:29:45,180 --> 00:29:49,460 that the Constitution is the basis for America's great heritage 359 00:29:49,460 --> 00:29:51,660 and the foundation of our way of life. 360 00:29:51,900 --> 00:29:54,940 Third one is to encourage the study of historical events, 361 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,400 which led to the framing of the Constitution 362 00:29:58,060 --> 00:29:59,760 in September of 17. 363 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:09,000 It is 7. And to celebrate the freedom that the Constitution affords us, all of these years. Constitution 364 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:17,040 week again became law in 1956 and it mandates that any institution of higher learning that 365 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:24,160 receives any federal funding must hold an educational program. So sometime during the week of Constitution 366 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:31,000 week which is September 17th through the 23rd. This designated week is a good time for all of 367 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:36,720 us to reflect on the many people who have defended and promoted the freedoms that our Constitution 368 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:45,700 provides such as those who have sacrificed their lives and their livelihoods to excuse me to form 369 00:30:45,700 --> 00:30:52,500 the nation, all men and women who have fought and continue to fight to protect our country and the 370 00:30:52,500 --> 00:30:57,920 of citizens who try to uphold the values of this document on a daily basis. 371 00:30:58,620 --> 00:31:03,720 What are ways, my chapter, the Jonathan Hunt chapter, draws attention to the Constitution, 372 00:31:04,020 --> 00:31:22,480 you may ask, one is by requesting this proclamation from you and from several government areas in our, 373 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:30,100 year, 100 fifth graders in two different schools with a goody bag that includes the booklet that 374 00:31:30,100 --> 00:31:38,680 is the entire constitution, an American flag, and documents that they can have some fun, 375 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:46,120 where a slap bracelet that kids love to slap and make noise and other things that are fun 376 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:52,460 to do not just educational. We also give educational material to the teachers and 377 00:31:52,460 --> 00:31:58,960 needs to schools and the schools this year are Jonesville Elementary Fifth Griders and Flight 378 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:05,920 Rock Fifth Griders. And that total is 100 students for both schools. 379 00:32:08,260 --> 00:32:14,400 We request local radio stations to make community service announcements during daily during 380 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:20,820 this constitution week and we provide snippets of information so they don't have to go searching 381 00:32:20,820 --> 00:32:39,300 for information to share. We asked churches, community, and chapter members to ring a bell for two minutes at 4pm on September 17th, which is the time that the Declaration of Independence was signed on July 4th, 1776. 382 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:44,160 So we hope you will join us and ring in any kind of bell that you have. 383 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:51,120 And then on another note, to celebrate America 250, my chapter partnered with the Furris and 384 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:57,160 Department of Elkin, to dedicate a bronze marker to honor the over-mountain men who must 385 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:05,560 be close by to where the marker is planted before they went to fight in the Battle of Kings 386 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:11,880 Mountain. And they also followed another battle, but that was the primary one. So as a representative 387 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,880 of the Jonathan Hunt chapter, daughters of American Revolution. 388 00:33:15,620 --> 00:33:17,860 I thank you very much for this proclamation, 389 00:33:18,380 --> 00:33:20,960 but you provide for us every year. 390 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,080 It helps to educate the community, 391 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,820 and we ask that you help spread the word 392 00:33:25,820 --> 00:33:29,440 about this document in this week in order that we all 393 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,440 may celebrate and ring a bell at four o'clock, 394 00:33:33,220 --> 00:33:36,060 on September 17, or any time during that week. 395 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,800 So thank you very much. We appreciate it. 396 00:33:38,860 --> 00:33:40,500 Thank you for your day. 397 00:33:40,500 --> 00:33:44,000 any one else. 398 00:33:54,160 --> 00:34:00,460 General County business, I'll start with Vice Chairman Harris, as today. 399 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:10,300 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate the citizen input from all directions tonight. 400 00:34:10,380 --> 00:34:20,480 I think that's what it's all about in regards to the flat cameras, you know, I'll say that 401 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:26,860 had someone emailed me a couple weeks ago, maybe in three weeks, but I'm not sure. 402 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:32,980 I don't even remember the name, but anyway, I was totally unaware that there was 403 00:34:32,980 --> 00:34:40,700 flood cameras in Cere County, and I emailed those folks back, and gave their 404 00:34:41,820 --> 00:34:48,560 email to the Sheriff Department to get their questions answered. I do share the concerns about 405 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:53,740 personal freedom and individual liberty. I think that's something we should all take 406 00:34:53,740 --> 00:34:59,500 very serious. And I think it speaks to the United States Constitution as well that 407 00:34:59,500 --> 00:35:07,800 this house spoke about. I do understand why, you know, that there are some beneficial aspects, 408 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:13,100 you know, that it's major crimes that have solved due to flawed cameras. But nevertheless, 409 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:20,160 You know, giving up our civil liberties and civil rights as a slippery slope in this country, 410 00:35:20,220 --> 00:35:25,160 and I think there's probably a bit too much of that over the last couple of decades. 411 00:35:26,580 --> 00:35:28,260 So thank you folks for coming tonight. 412 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:41,740 The Highway 89, I appreciate you folks as well coming, and maybe the DOT can get some remediation with you folks 413 00:35:41,740 --> 00:35:51,620 and sit down and discuss this and everybody's opinions can be taken into account before 414 00:35:51,620 --> 00:36:01,160 a final design is approved for Highway 89. It is a major corridor into Mount Ayrie and so it 415 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:06,940 bears a lot of discernment and thought as this process goes along. 416 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:19,180 I want to thank Ms. Haas for coming tonight as well as the United States Constitution for 417 00:36:19,180 --> 00:36:23,920 Constitution Week and picklead its aspirations to 150th Anniversary. 418 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:31,400 And I think that is something that ought to be celebrated in this country, particularly 419 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,480 among our public schools. 420 00:36:34,300 --> 00:36:39,860 The calls, you know, I remember in 1976 what a big deal that was. 421 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:45,580 I don't know. I think maybe in the ninth or tenth grade or something like that. 422 00:36:46,260 --> 00:36:52,920 And we had stickers and all sorts of things that were given out and celebrating the 250th anniversary. 423 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,780 I mean the 200th anniversary of our nation at that time. 424 00:36:56,780 --> 00:37:01,800 And so I hope our public schools take note. 425 00:37:02,420 --> 00:37:09,900 I've actually had some conversations with school board members about what are you folks doing to 426 00:37:09,900 --> 00:37:20,860 celebrate our nation's 250th anniversary in the elementary and high schools in the three public schools. 427 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:26,320 And so I'm going to continue to have that conversation with our school board members. 428 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,240 and make sure that 429 00:37:30,050 --> 00:37:46,810 That our public schools participate in this and obviously as a county commissioner, that's not my area, but we work very closely with our public schools and I think it is so important. 430 00:37:46,810 --> 00:37:49,010 So thank you, Miss Hoffs, for coming tonight, 431 00:37:51,190 --> 00:37:54,010 and thank you for the marker down there in 432 00:37:54,010 --> 00:38:01,050 Elkin, as well, on the Oak Mountain Victory Trail. I was sick when that marker was dedicated, 433 00:38:02,370 --> 00:38:09,830 and could not at the end. And I want also publicly thank the Daniel Boone Heritage folks, 434 00:38:09,830 --> 00:38:19,210 very well and out of the for the highway, the Ben Trail markers and what they do getting 435 00:38:19,210 --> 00:38:28,970 public books and resources into our public schools regarding Daniel Ben. And I think we've 436 00:38:28,970 --> 00:38:36,270 lost a lot of our historical markers in our nation and I think our history ought to be preserved 437 00:38:36,270 --> 00:38:44,050 and protected, and route routes it up for me, Mr. Chairman. Thank you very much. 438 00:38:44,330 --> 00:38:45,070 Thank you. 439 00:38:45,290 --> 00:38:45,870 Mr. Marie? 440 00:38:46,890 --> 00:38:47,090 Yes. 441 00:38:47,390 --> 00:38:51,070 Mr. Chairman, I want to say one more thing too. 442 00:38:51,650 --> 00:39:00,390 I have received some correspondence in regards to our rural post offices and the preservation 443 00:39:00,390 --> 00:39:03,970 of our post offices in our rural communities. 444 00:39:03,970 --> 00:39:12,030 and I wanted to say too that I am a big proponent of protecting our rule post offices. 445 00:39:12,710 --> 00:39:18,730 I know the last, I think that if I'm not mistaken, the last big change in St. County 446 00:39:18,730 --> 00:39:24,390 maybe was in the 60s when a lot of them were closed and consolidated. I know mountain parks 447 00:39:24,390 --> 00:39:31,330 was shut down in 66. There was another big closure of post offices in the early 50s. 448 00:39:32,770 --> 00:39:38,930 And some of that I understand, but I think that a rule post office is a very important 449 00:39:38,930 --> 00:39:39,990 for a rule community. 450 00:39:40,190 --> 00:39:41,630 I think it's part of its identity. 451 00:39:42,430 --> 00:39:52,710 I know there's some folks about changing some boxes for the solemn post office and I want 452 00:39:52,710 --> 00:39:53,530 to make it publicly. 453 00:39:53,530 --> 00:40:04,370 and I would oppose the closure of any post office in Surrey County for any reason, but I just 454 00:40:04,370 --> 00:40:09,830 wanted to address that as well. And thank you very much. Sorry for the interjection there. 455 00:40:10,350 --> 00:40:15,230 So yeah. Thank you everyone for coming out tonight and everybody's input. 456 00:40:15,230 --> 00:40:24,050 But we said we do what we do, but eighty-nine we have, I talked to Dan Kager also, Tracy, 457 00:40:24,210 --> 00:40:34,190 I told you I would, I did and I would and so I believe everybody's been receptive and hopefully 458 00:40:34,190 --> 00:40:43,890 they will see that what you're proposing is not good for the community, but thank you all 459 00:40:43,890 --> 00:40:51,410 coming out and we'll look into the animal shelter as I don't know. I didn't know that much 460 00:40:51,410 --> 00:41:00,290 discrepancy between us and the counties. But thank you all. Have a good week. Mr. Tucker. 461 00:41:00,890 --> 00:41:05,190 I'll keep it real short. I know you, Mr. Chairman, you're out here on a short notice to 462 00:41:05,190 --> 00:41:09,970 another meeting and so I'm going to urge you. But thank you everyone for all you concerns and 463 00:41:09,970 --> 00:41:16,830 coming for involving yourself in county government. We take on a lot of issues here. Some of 464 00:41:16,830 --> 00:41:21,670 them we can help fix. Some of them we have to look into a little bit before we know if we even 465 00:41:21,670 --> 00:41:30,710 have a role in them. And some of them we can fix probably. Some of them maybe we can address our influence 466 00:41:30,710 --> 00:41:36,770 or at least let the citizens thought to be known to those people that can fix them. But anyway, 467 00:41:36,770 --> 00:41:44,570 We appreciate you coming. I'll always appreciate your attendance and those watching out in the video land. 468 00:41:45,150 --> 00:41:53,090 And we thank you for these folks that we appoint these committees week after month after month after month. 469 00:41:53,970 --> 00:41:59,510 You know, these people that are served and say yes to these things, I want to just say I'm a chopper. 470 00:41:59,510 --> 00:42:04,250 those folks that at the direction or encouragement of this board and we haven't 471 00:42:04,250 --> 00:42:08,510 knows we have a lot of committees that it's just made up of pure volunteer folks 472 00:42:08,510 --> 00:42:13,990 in the community. It takes a lot of their time to help us work through some of these 473 00:42:13,990 --> 00:42:18,530 issues that you see presented. But we appreciate those folks and sometimes maybe we don't 474 00:42:18,530 --> 00:42:21,870 even tell them that enough but I want to say thank you to those folks that are willing to 475 00:42:21,870 --> 00:42:26,950 serve in all of these capacities. Thank you for you folks and appreciate you coming. Thank you, Mr. Chair. 476 00:42:27,910 --> 00:42:35,810 I'll keep on short. There are a lot of things that land at our feet that are not necessarily hours to deal or make decisions about. 477 00:42:36,330 --> 00:42:49,130 But each one of us took a job and I oath to represent the citizens of this county and when you come and share your thoughts and concerns with us, we do the best that we can't listen to you and share those with those who do have that decision making power. 478 00:42:49,130 --> 00:42:54,010 so that they know that not only if you can sit a sense or a concern, but that we're concerned 479 00:42:54,010 --> 00:43:00,990 for you, that being said, Deborah, when you start speaking, I didn't recall we're saving 480 00:43:00,990 --> 00:43:06,670 an email from Adam, and I would have remembered that because I know you're children personally. 481 00:43:07,110 --> 00:43:12,030 I don't usually get my phone out during a meeting, but I got it to look, and I'm not sure why 482 00:43:12,030 --> 00:43:15,890 this happened, so I'm sure if it happened to me, it happened to these gentleman this out of me, 483 00:43:15,890 --> 00:43:23,050 It went to our junk folder. I just found it at search your name because I knew your first name so I apologize for the silence 484 00:43:23,050 --> 00:43:26,090 But I want you to know the reason is is because it went to our junk folder 485 00:43:26,090 --> 00:43:29,030 And it looks like there's more than one maybe two or three in there 486 00:43:29,030 --> 00:43:31,890 So I will read those to not get back in touch with you 487 00:43:32,430 --> 00:43:35,410 Sally I'd like to have conversation with you this week also 488 00:43:35,410 --> 00:43:43,150 But what I really wanted to say tonight is two weeks ago some of us got to attend the annual economic development 489 00:43:43,150 --> 00:43:49,030 annual Maine, that Maine is normally just a history of what has happened during that week, 490 00:43:49,350 --> 00:43:54,470 but this year, something very important happened. And that was a member of our staff here at 491 00:43:54,470 --> 00:43:58,630 Siri County received from the governor's office, the acknowledgement of the order of the long 492 00:43:58,630 --> 00:44:04,230 leaf pine, who has given a great deal of his life in multiple departments in this county. And it was 493 00:44:04,230 --> 00:44:09,750 Mr. Chris Knoff, our county manager. So I want to share that publicly so that not just those folks 494 00:44:09,750 --> 00:44:14,370 And again, that meeting, and then you how much he is appreciated in the work that he's done in 495 00:44:14,370 --> 00:44:19,650 Cere County has been appreciated, but that we appreciate you and all that you've given to Cere County. 496 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:31,040 I just, I just have one thing, and if we could check with animal control and have 497 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:37,280 them do a little research, a little bit of research, and maybe maybe call some clinics and 498 00:44:37,700 --> 00:44:44,920 see if we can get that calts down. So I do think it's a, and I understand it. I mean, it's 499 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:51,120 hard to get it appear into the vet. In a month's interrogation day, they close and all, 500 00:44:51,460 --> 00:44:56,360 they have never said, they're close and all, they're just so, it's getting harder and harder to 501 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,980 get into the vet's office. So if they check on that and... 502 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,800 And get back with us kind of with some members. 503 00:45:04,820 --> 00:45:07,000 If nothing else, I'm looking for a motion to adjourn. 504 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:14,840 I should go back to Mr. High, to have a second. Second, back to Mr. Mary, any discussion on if I ever please say aye.