1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:05,520 Good afternoon everybody. Welcome to the Swany County Board of County 2 00:00:03,679 --> 00:00:09,120 Commissioner meeting for September 1st, 2026. This time I'd like to get 3 00:00:07,919 --> 00:00:13,759 Commissioner Fleming to do the invocation. Commissioner Molly to do the 4 00:00:10,719 --> 00:00:18,240 pledge if you'll stand. Thank you. >> Let's pray. Father, we come once again 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:21,600 in your name. Thank you for many blessings you bestowed upon us. Thank 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:25,519 you for making a way for us. Thank you for how you watched over and protect us. 7 00:00:23,279 --> 00:00:30,080 You kept us safe. We pray God that you be with the Brie families. Oh God, 8 00:00:27,039 --> 00:00:33,520 somebody had tra tragedy, but have mercy if we pray. We pray God that [snorts] 9 00:00:31,679 --> 00:00:37,360 you lift us up. Be with us this day. Watch over and protect us. Keep us safe 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:40,960 from all hurt, harm, and danger. For we call in your name because we need you 11 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:44,480 this afternoon and we can't get along without you. Father, we ask these and 12 00:00:42,399 --> 00:00:48,800 all blessings in Jesus name we pray. Amen. 13 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:54,559 » Amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 14 00:00:51,440 --> 00:01:01,239 republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 15 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,239 justice for all. 16 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:15,680 Moving on to item number one, approval of minutes for the August 18th, 2026 17 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:19,040 regular meeting. Do I hear any corrections, deletions, or a motion to 18 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,200 approve? >> So move. 19 00:01:19,759 --> 00:01:23,360 » Motion by Commissioner Hail. >> Second. 20 00:01:21,759 --> 00:01:29,200 » Second by Commissioner Fleming. All in favor? I. I. All oppose. Same sign. 21 00:01:26,159 --> 00:01:35,400 Motion carries five to zero. Public concerns and comments. 22 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,400 Uh Mr. Broers 23 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:50,320 and just announce everything but that one. So that way the record's clear. 24 00:01:45,439 --> 00:01:54,079 Hey Jason, can you get a recusal phone? You want me to say 25 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:57,520 » good evening and how are you? >> I'm doing okay. Getting older every day. 26 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:02,159 » I [laughter] hear you. >> Keith Broers, 970 Southwest Pine 27 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:05,840 Mountain Road in Lake City. What I want to talk tonight a little bit about is 28 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:10,959 something called the original intent of our founding fathers. If you understand 29 00:02:09,039 --> 00:02:15,760 that the original intent basically means is that the the constitution means today 30 00:02:14,239 --> 00:02:19,520 what it meant on the day that it was written by the founding fathers. Uh 31 00:02:18,239 --> 00:02:22,879 there is a way to change the constitution and it's through an 32 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:27,599 amendment. But what we have done over the years is we've amended the 33 00:02:24,319 --> 00:02:31,440 constitution by misinterpreting it. And that is a lot easier to misinterpret 34 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:35,519 than it is to go through the amendment process. The amendment in particular 35 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:38,560 that I want to mention is the 14th amendment. 36 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:42,000 I don't know if you know the reason that the 14th amendment was passed. I 37 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:45,840 encourage all of you to go to your AI and ask the question, why did the 38 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:50,160 founding fathers propose the 14th amendment? And it made it very clear. 39 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:54,959 The purpose was to create a situation where the black Americans would be 40 00:02:52,239 --> 00:02:58,879 treated with equality and justice. That was the purpose of the amendment. It 41 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:07,920 wasn't to try to increase the number of immigrants. it was to basically improve 42 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:14,159 the the quality of of the immigrants and um frankly um one of the one of the 43 00:03:12,239 --> 00:03:18,080 things that comes up and I'm in very much along I go along with Donald Trump 44 00:03:16,239 --> 00:03:22,640 on this idea of the birthright citizenship there's two types of 45 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:27,840 citizenships there's the citizenship that is be conferred upon you by your by 46 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:32,080 the land upon which you were born and the second form of citizenship ship is 47 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:38,319 the type of citizenship that is based upon your lineage. You inherit the in 48 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:43,360 you inherit the citizenship of your parents. Well, in in our country 49 00:03:41,599 --> 00:03:48,319 initially the founding fathers believed that they wanted both. They wanted 50 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:54,799 people to be born on US soil but they also wanted the people who were uh to 51 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:59,280 run for president to be to owe their complete and total allegiance to America 52 00:03:56,799 --> 00:04:05,680 and not to a foreign power. And if you go to AI and ask the question, uh, why 53 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:11,120 did the founding fathers insist on a clause 54 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:14,480 for the birthright citizenship? Check it out and you'll see that what 55 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:19,280 they what the founding fathers believed was was written by a guy by the name of 56 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:24,000 Vatell who wrote a book called the well the law of nations. And in that he said 57 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:28,240 that a natural-born citizen is a child who was born in a country to parents 58 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:33,840 that were citizens of that country at the time of the birth. And frankly uh 59 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:39,919 obviously there's there's one guy who did who uh well anyway this is important 60 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:44,400 because if you elect people who have a divided loyalty, how do you know whose 61 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:47,919 interests are going to be looked after? I find that a lot of times our 62 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:51,680 presidents make decisions that benefit other countries more than our own. 63 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:57,040 Anyway, check it out on AI. Ask the question, why was the 14th amendment 64 00:04:54,240 --> 00:05:01,520 written and why did the founding fathers insist on the clause for birthright 65 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:07,000 citizenship? Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Broers. 66 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,000 Miss Martin. 67 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:22,639 Greetings, Wendy Martin, 15850 141st Road, Macalpin. A quick response. 68 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:26,080 AI is replete with a lot of incorrect information because it's dependent on 69 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:30,880 the people that are answering the questions initially. 70 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:35,919 Um the 14th amendment was also started after reconstruction, not by the 71 00:05:33,280 --> 00:05:40,400 founding fathers. And in regards to elections, I want to complement the 72 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:45,039 Swany County Division of Elections for the saving us and some of the security 73 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:48,880 they've enacted because now instead of having to pre-order a bunch of ballots, 74 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:53,039 they're not printing the ballots up till we need them, which saved us on paper 75 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:57,520 and ink, we don't have to do the accounting to account for why did you 76 00:05:55,759 --> 00:06:03,440 destroy these ballots that were not used. So again, that's money and time. 77 00:06:01,199 --> 00:06:08,720 It also mitigates any of the claim, you know, election security about who got 78 00:06:06,319 --> 00:06:12,319 what ballot when it came out. We don't have to worry about whatever the lies 79 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:18,960 they were promoting that led to some of the revolt in 2020. But Miss Kinsey did 80 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:23,039 Jennifer did a very good I think she conducted a very good election and the 81 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:28,319 improvements that she's made with the technology. 82 00:06:25,039 --> 00:06:33,039 kudos other than I suck at that woodscribe or whatever for the auto 83 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:35,199 signature, but it is what it is. Thank you. 84 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:39,800 » Thank you. Appreciate it. >> Anybody else public concerns and 85 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,800 comments 86 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:59,840 Clipper? Uh on the uh on this item six on the consent. Y'all y'all gonna 87 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:04,960 u y'all got plans on doing terminating whatever? We still let 88 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:12,080 I requested quite a while back for the outcome of that last uh 12 $15,000 we 89 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:18,479 spent and it hadn't been published that I guess I got to go through for you. Um 90 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:24,800 I don't know why that has to be it's a disconnect. govern and and and so I'm 91 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:29,919 requesting again for y'all to publish right now uh what what happened with 92 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:36,960 that last cherry bracket money what they come up with on that last one incomplete 93 00:07:33,199 --> 00:07:43,280 u and I request y'all to u you know defund again uh sheriff's department 94 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:47,039 with the flock cameras the axon that's coming up behind them that they're if 95 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:51,759 y'all are reading I'm reading they're putting dum spy 96 00:07:49,039 --> 00:07:57,440 stuff on top of the light poles now, you know. So, they're just trying to surveil 97 00:07:55,039 --> 00:08:03,840 us and you know, y'all could y'all could put a stop to some of it. Um, yeah, Axon 98 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:08,160 Axo N. And then y'all not going to chairman not going to let me speak to 99 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:13,120 general business number nine on the North Florida Water Utility Authority. 100 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:19,280 Y'all were misinformed by legal counsel about the interlocal agreement. Uh 101 00:08:17,199 --> 00:08:24,160 Columbia County's got 180 days to back out of that deal with North Florida 102 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:29,919 Water Utility Authority. It it it plainly states that the second 103 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:35,120 interlocal does not uh eliminate the terms and conditions of the first. So, 104 00:08:32,560 --> 00:08:38,719 you know, we're in a mess with that. And if it's ego that's going to get us there 105 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:43,760 and I don't like the fact that we're just spending money hand over fist. 106 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:48,480 We're paying uh the lawyer. We got over $400 an hour. Uh, you know, it's just 107 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:54,800 money, money, money. We can do it more efficiently here. Um, I'm certain with 108 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:58,959 inter local. So, we just need to be more efficient because amendment three is 109 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:04,240 coming through, folks. So, we y'all going to be short about $6 million out 110 00:09:01,279 --> 00:09:10,480 of the out of the operating budget. So, uh, y'all need to start being more 111 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:16,160 efficient with spending our money and finding creative [clears throat] ways 112 00:09:12,959 --> 00:09:23,839 to, uh, be more efficient, you know, and transparency. Actually, you utilizing 113 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:27,920 I've watched, uh, for a long time u, you know, people come up this podium and 114 00:09:25,519 --> 00:09:32,880 offer services over at the coliseum. There's a lady that her husband was in 115 00:09:29,839 --> 00:09:37,839 trucking. they offered to uh assist with assistance and y'all never y'all never 116 00:09:35,839 --> 00:09:42,720 utilize that. There's many things that y'all could do for free. People want to 117 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:47,120 help and instead NDAs and all that stuff, y'all try to hide stuff from us 118 00:09:44,560 --> 00:09:50,320 instead of letting us help. So anyway, we need to get better. 119 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:54,399 » Thank you, sir. Anybody else? Public concerns and 120 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:58,160 comments. >> Moving on to the consent agenda. Is any 121 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,560 any commissioners want to pull any item for discussion? 122 00:09:58,959 --> 00:10:04,360 » Mr. Chair, I pull number two. >> Number two for discussion. 123 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,800 Any others? 124 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:15,839 » Seeing that, we will be voting on items 3 through eight of the consent agenda. 125 00:10:13,839 --> 00:10:18,399 Do I have a motion to approve? >> Motion. 126 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,880 » Motion by Commissioner Fleming. >> Second. 127 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:26,320 » Second by Commissioner Lan. All in favor? I. I. All oppose, same sign. 128 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:29,760 Motion carries five to zero. Item number two, approval of payment of process 129 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:33,839 invoice. Mr. Bland. >> Yes, sir. In there um in inside of 130 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:38,880 number two on that on the payment vouchers, there is a $700 check to Harry 131 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:42,240 T. Reed Funeral Home. I need to abstain um from voting on that due to a 132 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:45,200 conflict. My wife and I are owners of Harry T Reed Funeral Home. We 133 00:10:43,680 --> 00:10:48,000 transported a deceased person to the medical examiner's office at the 134 00:10:46,560 --> 00:10:53,040 county's request. >> Well, thank you for letting us know that 135 00:10:49,519 --> 00:10:58,240 and appreciate that. Uh seeing that uh Commissioner Lan will recuse itself from 136 00:10:54,880 --> 00:11:03,279 voting on item number two. Do I have a motion to approve? Beside that payment 137 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,959 of pro processed invoice. Motion by Commissioner Mobly. 138 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:09,519 » Second. >> Second by Commissioner Hail. 139 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:15,880 » All in favor? I I all oppose saying sign. Motion carries four to zero with 140 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,880 Commissioner Land of Stanley. 141 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:22,360 No time specific constitutional officers. 142 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,720 » Staff, 143 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:32,720 » any commissioner items? >> County attorney. 144 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:39,680 » Uh yes, Mr. Chairman. I got three things real quick. Uh the first is there's 145 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:45,360 going to be a meeting of the uh Live Oak Community Redevelopment Authority on 146 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:48,320 September the 29th. uh as your >> 22 147 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:53,519 » 22nd I'm sorry um yeah the fourth Tuesday I apologize 148 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:59,040 uh so on September 22nd um as you're aware Mr. Chairman uh the 149 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:03,200 CRA recently was voting to expand the county and the city and the CRA had some 150 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:06,720 very constructive conversations about some of the county's concerns. Uh 151 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:11,040 they've invited me to come speak at that 22nd meeting regarding those concerns. 152 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:15,200 Uh I've discussed this individually with each member of the board just so they're 153 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:20,480 aware as to what's been going on. So I would just uh due to uh our position in 154 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:24,000 that matter and me going and speaking on behalf of the county, I'd like to be 155 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:27,519 able to say I'm doing so uh with the author with speaking with the voice of 156 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:31,760 the county uh of the board of county commissioners. So Mr. Mr. Chairman, I'd 157 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:35,920 like a motion uh and approval by the board to authorize me to speak on behalf 158 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:41,279 of the board at that September 22nd meeting of the SW of the Live Oak CRA. 159 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:44,399 » Any questions of Mr. Morrison on that before we move to Do I have a motion to 160 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,800 approve that? >> So move. 161 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:50,240 » Motion by Commissioner Lamb. >> Second. 162 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:55,200 » Second by Commissioner Fleming. >> All in favor? I. I. All oppose. Same 163 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:58,800 sign. Motion carries 5 to zero. >> Uh next, Mr. Chairman, speaking of 164 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:03,440 something that came up before, I'd been asked about uh flock cameras here in 165 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:07,200 Swany County because yesterday the Department of Transportation through an 166 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:13,200 order from Governor DeSantis ordered that all flock cameras be taken off of 167 00:13:09,680 --> 00:13:17,360 the um roads maintained by the Florida Department of Transportation. So, the 168 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:21,680 Florida the Florida Highway System. Since I knew that the next question was 169 00:13:18,959 --> 00:13:25,680 going to be, what about the roads maintained by the county or county 170 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:29,920 roads? I had a conversation with dep uh chief deputy Williams this afternoon. Uh 171 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:35,279 he's authorized me to represent to the board and to the public that effective 172 00:13:32,399 --> 00:13:40,079 today uh all flock cameras have been turned off in Swany County. So there are 173 00:13:38,079 --> 00:13:43,200 no more flock c uh and it's not just that the board that they're not 174 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:47,600 searching it. They're not using their license. The they've been turned off at 175 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:50,480 least as to the cameras they control. Certainly if some other law enforcement 176 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:53,760 agency has put some up somewhere that we're not aware of, they can't control 177 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:59,680 that. any uh flock camera put up by the uh 178 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:04,160 that's permanently installed by the Swany County Sheriff's Office is turned 179 00:14:01,519 --> 00:14:08,639 off uh immediately and permanently effective today per Deputy Sheriff 180 00:14:06,399 --> 00:14:11,040 Williams and uh the >> Did they say they were going to remove 181 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:14,320 them or >> they're going I the anticipation is 182 00:14:12,959 --> 00:14:18,959 they're going to be removed. they're off, but since they're not the property 183 00:14:15,839 --> 00:14:21,440 of the sheriff, then he can't take them down, and he certainly doesn't want to 184 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:26,240 be the one removing them and then be found liable for screwing them up. So, 185 00:14:24,639 --> 00:14:29,600 » uh, but he wanted to make sure that I communicated to the board and the 186 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:33,120 citizenry that they are off. So, it's not just that they are not being 187 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:35,440 searched, it's that the actual cameras are off. 188 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,000 » Mr. Chairman, >> Commissioner Hail, 189 00:14:36,399 --> 00:14:41,680 » just just a question of that, Mr. Attorney, does the board need to make 190 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:44,560 any kind of motion on that to >> No, sir. because it's all within the 191 00:14:43,279 --> 00:14:48,160 purview of the sheriff. I was just letting this because I know that the 192 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:51,360 questions have come to you guys as me you guys as commissioners as well as the 193 00:14:50,079 --> 00:14:52,480 public. So, I'm just letting you all know. 194 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,800 » Gotcha. >> So, yeah, no board actions necessary. 195 00:14:54,079 --> 00:14:57,680 » Approve them. So, >> yeah, the board didn't approve. It was 196 00:14:56,079 --> 00:14:59,279 how he spent his own budget, but just FYI. 197 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:04,160 » Yep. >> Uh and then lastly, Mr. Chairman, uh Mr. 198 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:08,639 Furry and I had excellent conversations uh last week regarding bonding and 199 00:15:07,279 --> 00:15:14,560 moving forward with that matter with the wastewater treatment plant. Um the good 200 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:19,120 news uh is that there are several sources of revenue that are pledgeable. 201 00:15:16,639 --> 00:15:22,800 So we should be okay for purposes of being able to secure a bond and moving 202 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:25,920 forward with that process. For clarification though, the question that 203 00:15:24,399 --> 00:15:30,240 was asked is what about the interest rate? Because that was originally the 204 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:33,839 appeal of it. Um and when I had originally spoken to Mr. Sprattling my 205 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:39,199 friend from 20 years ago. He apparently quoted me a rate from 20 years ago 206 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:42,639 because uh the rate that was thrown around by the people who remember we're 207 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:47,360 dealing with municipal advocates. So these are people who work for us uh is 208 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:53,519 going to be in the 4 point I you know on the low end in the 4.6 to 4.8 range. Um 209 00:15:51,759 --> 00:15:57,759 and the reason for that is if you look at what a 10-year T-note is going for 210 00:15:55,279 --> 00:16:01,199 right now is 4.8%. That's lending to the federal government. So, it's just a 211 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:05,680 matter of poor timing as to when we're having to go out for the loan. If it 212 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:10,160 were 3 years ago, it would be a significantly lower interest rate, but 213 00:16:07,279 --> 00:16:12,880 that just the timing is what it is. So, just wanted to make you board members 214 00:16:11,519 --> 00:16:16,160 aware of what kind of interest rate we're looking at. I'm not we don't need 215 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:20,320 any board action right now to say stop or move forward. I wanted to inform the 216 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:24,240 board and that way if you guys want to think about it individually, if that 217 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:28,320 changes anybody's feelings about moving forward with the bonding process, then 218 00:16:26,959 --> 00:16:30,880 we need to let them know sooner than later. But I wanted to share that 219 00:16:29,519 --> 00:16:34,720 information as soon as we had it. >> What What kind of term are we looking at 220 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:40,240 as far as length of term on that? >> It can be whatever we want. Now, we can 221 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:44,480 have 15 years easily within that range. If you get past 20 or if you get to 20, 222 00:16:42,959 --> 00:16:49,040 then it gets you may have to pay a higher interest rate to get that 223 00:16:45,839 --> 00:16:52,800 » fixed. Yes. Yes. And the actually the the real issue 224 00:16:51,199 --> 00:16:57,680 uh and we're going to want to include something is a prohibition on a 225 00:16:54,959 --> 00:17:03,360 prepayment penalty clause. So because it's anticipated again not to put carts 226 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:06,799 before the horse about the North Florida Water Utility Authority, but ultimately 227 00:17:05,439 --> 00:17:11,679 if that treatment plant were to be moved into the utility authority, the utility 228 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:15,360 authority would need to uh and we're already having that conversation now 229 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:19,199 would basically need to buy out would need to reissue bonds in order to secure 230 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:24,240 that debt for the utility authority and pay off ours. So we need to make sure 231 00:17:21,360 --> 00:17:27,679 that we can do that. Um and remember the way they're making money is interest. 232 00:17:25,839 --> 00:17:31,520 So, you know, you can get a lower interest rate, but you would have to put 233 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:34,960 a you would have to agree to not be allowed to prepay. And I just don't 234 00:17:33,360 --> 00:17:39,039 think that's a clause that we can be okay with given that circumstance, which 235 00:17:37,360 --> 00:17:43,200 is foreseeable right now. So, we're still in that, like I said, 4.6 to 4.8 236 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:46,480 4. We don't have a number yet, but that's kind of the range that we're 237 00:17:44,799 --> 00:17:50,320 looking at. It can be amvertised over 10, 15 years at that rate without a 238 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:53,520 problem. 20 again, we're going to have you can do it. You're just going to have 239 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:57,200 to pay for it. So, and again, I don't need nobody needs 240 00:17:55,520 --> 00:18:00,160 to do anything right now. Just Mr. Furry and I discussed that we wanted to let 241 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:04,080 the board know and if that interest rate gives anybody 242 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:07,039 feelings about not wanting to pursue it, that's fine. We just need to know so we 243 00:18:05,679 --> 00:18:11,840 can communicate that to our partners who are working on our behalf. 244 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:16,960 » Also, I would like to know is I you know I don't know much about bonds. I know 245 00:18:13,360 --> 00:18:22,880 about mortgages but not bonds. So, we get this bond that's at 4.8% interest 246 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:25,120 rates drops. Can we borrow money from the bank at a lower interest, pay this 247 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:30,320 off? Do >> we'd have to rebond? So, the short 248 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:33,679 answer is yes. So, the the problem is is >> we're not allowed to mortgage our own 249 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:36,880 property, as weird as that is, right? So, we have to pledge revenue, which we 250 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:40,640 have. >> Um, and we have to be able and you can 251 00:18:39,360 --> 00:18:46,559 also just pledge that you're going to be able to pay for the bond. Uh, which is 252 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:51,600 not a problem. Um, so yes, you can. And because we're going 253 00:18:49,120 --> 00:18:55,120 to negotiate for a prepay an allowable prepayment. So let's say there is a 254 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:58,559 massive dropping in interest rates. If at that point in time, kind of like with 255 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:02,799 a mortgage, it becomes worth it to pay the closing costs if the interest rate 256 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:05,520 is at a certain lower rate. Yes, we could do that. But we would have to go 257 00:19:03,919 --> 00:19:09,520 through the bond process again because it's only through the bond process that 258 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:13,679 we're allowed to take to take on debt as a government. 259 00:19:11,039 --> 00:19:15,679 » Understood. Any other questions? >> So did I say anything incorrect? 260 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,120 » No, that's correct. >> All right. I don't have anything 261 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:22,919 further, Mr. Chair. >> That's it. Yes, sir. 262 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,919 » Any consultants? 263 00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:29,360 General business. Item number nine, discuss with possible board action 264 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:33,360 approving North Florida Water Utility Association recommended water and 265 00:19:31,039 --> 00:19:37,048 wastewater rates for Swany County utility customers. Mr. Furry. 266 00:19:35,679 --> 00:19:39,840 » Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So, [clears throat] we've been talking about 267 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:44,880 this a couple different times in budget workshops as well. Um, 268 00:19:42,799 --> 00:19:48,400 so the utility is is looking, we own the assets, so we get to set the rates for 269 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:52,640 for our county assets. So they're looking for us to set the rates in order 270 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:56,880 for them to adopt their final budget, which will be later this month. I 271 00:19:55,280 --> 00:20:00,480 believe Columbia County will be setting their rates this Thursday at their 272 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:04,559 meeting as well. Um, our thought process initially, I 273 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:08,320 think Mr. Roberts had brought a had brought a figure to the utility board 274 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:12,240 and you correct me if I'm wrong um Commissioner Mauy and and White cuz you 275 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:16,559 guys were there those meetings but um had brought a rate um which decreased 276 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:21,679 the county's contribution down below 500,000 and then um I think brought 277 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:26,880 another rate back to the board to the utility board um which lowered the 278 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:31,360 customers rates because they were it was a pretty drastic increase and it and it 279 00:20:29,679 --> 00:20:35,840 went back to our original contribution of just over $500. 00,000 520,000 I 280 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:39,760 think is is what the county has been contributing to the authority. So that's 281 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:43,840 kind of the trade-off we talked in the past. The more the board contributes the 282 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:47,679 less the rates can be. Um if we were running our own utility and we were for 283 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:51,760 a while we didn't raise the rates ever is my understanding. I wasn't 284 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:54,799 necessarily involved in that. Um but that's my understanding. We would have 285 00:20:53,120 --> 00:20:58,480 had to raise the rates if if we take it over tomorrow. We're probably going to 286 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:02,320 increase the rates regardless. So uh I don't think it's a matter of you know do 287 00:21:00,799 --> 00:21:06,679 we raise the rates. It's just a matter of of how much do you want to go? 288 00:21:07,039 --> 00:21:14,880 » Well, let me just jump in there a minute since I sit on that board and le 289 00:21:11,919 --> 00:21:20,480 Commissioner Mobly does as well. We had a rate study done for these rates. So, 290 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:25,840 we're not just picking this out of thin air. And the rates because we don't have 291 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:32,240 a lot of customers. We have the the ability to have customers. We just don't 292 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:37,120 have a lot of them yet. And so they were looking at a study to replace 293 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:42,480 everything the countyy's having to pay to run the utility. Well, when you done 294 00:21:39,360 --> 00:21:47,840 that, it just hit all your customers between the eyes with almost a doubling 295 00:21:45,039 --> 00:21:52,000 of their rates. So, we went back and looked at 296 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:58,720 moving some money around inside the utility authority. the counties matching 297 00:21:54,720 --> 00:22:03,679 what they paid last year to lessen the burden some on those people that's got 298 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:09,440 those utilities. So that's how we got to where we are and that's where we're at 299 00:22:05,360 --> 00:22:15,280 on it. So these rates that are here was not I guess the 300 00:22:12,559 --> 00:22:19,120 the top one was the original rates that was proposed and the second one was what 301 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:22,320 we came up with after making >> the second page the two tables. That's 302 00:22:20,799 --> 00:22:24,640 correct. The top one is the original rate. Mr. Roberts brought and then the 303 00:22:23,919 --> 00:22:30,640 revised >> and Mr. Roberts is here if we need to 304 00:22:27,679 --> 00:22:36,159 ask him anything. But as I know it, that's what we [laughter] what we did. 305 00:22:34,559 --> 00:22:40,880 » And I think that's what we we'll be looking at it for discussion starting 306 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:45,760 point is is the rates on the 716. Um and and you can you can go on down if 307 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:51,840 you want. The next page shows you the wastewater and and the water rates um 308 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:55,679 based on the on the size lines. But I would I would recommend that we we look 309 00:22:53,679 --> 00:23:01,120 at the same amount of contribution that that we have been giving. We can do that 310 00:22:57,360 --> 00:23:05,200 in the budget. No problem. Um and we we'll just have to communicate 311 00:23:03,039 --> 00:23:09,679 with those customers, which I believe the utility will be doing that as far as 312 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:12,880 notifying them. But um I think they understand where we're at in in the 313 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:17,200 process. >> We just tried to hit a happy medium here 314 00:23:14,799 --> 00:23:23,039 between the customers and and and the county taxpayers. 315 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:28,960 to to fund this utility authority and and and not kill our businesses that are 316 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:34,000 on those services. So, that's where we're at. And if you got any questions, 317 00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:36,960 I'll try my best to answer. Like I said, Shannon's in the audience and he can 318 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:41,280 answer, too. >> Yes, sir. I'm good. 319 00:23:38,559 --> 00:23:45,480 » Anybody any public comment on this? 320 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:51,120 Seeing none, can I get a motion to approve? 321 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:54,640 » So move. >> I guess I need Do I need to clarify 322 00:23:53,120 --> 00:23:58,480 which one on this table or >> I would think so. Yes. The 323 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:01,360 » the bottom. >> Yeah, the alternate rate increase. 324 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,880 » Alternate rate increase would be correct. 325 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,760 » July 16th. >> Correct. 326 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,600 » Can I get a motion to approve? >> So moved. 327 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,000 » Motion by Commissioner Lamb. >> Second. 328 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:15,520 » Second by Commissioner Mobly. Any further discussion? All in favor? I. I. 329 00:24:13,039 --> 00:24:20,159 All oppose. Same sign. Motion carries. 5. 330 00:24:18,159 --> 00:24:25,279 Item number 10, approval of task order 10 with Miller Leg Pers [clears throat] 331 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:29,120 Swania County agreement 2025-91 for the design of the regional emergency 332 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:34,080 shelter for the phase one on-site roadway and infrastructure design. 333 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:39,840 Budget impact $497,000 to be paid with great fun grant funds. 334 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:44,320 Great funds grant funds, Mr. Pur, >> excuse me. Those grant funds are great 335 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:47,440 funds. So, um yes, sir. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So, this is just the next 336 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:51,120 phase. We've been bringing task orders to you. Um, as you'll see in the next 337 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:54,640 two items, they're they're going to start to get rather large. We're to the 338 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:57,840 point where we've done the the programming and the planning and the and 339 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:02,080 the master planning. And so, now we're getting into the design and and putting 340 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:07,279 the details down to get to construction plans. So this particular one is for the 341 00:25:04,799 --> 00:25:14,480 on-site infrastructure um you know utilities, water, sewer, 342 00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:18,720 natural gas, um reuse and then of course the roadways. It's the internal roads on 343 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:23,919 our property and this will be to design that. Um it's the same it's Miller Lake, 344 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:30,000 our our engineers that we were that we hired through the RFQ process when we 345 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:36,080 originally went out for this project. >> Any questions of Mr. Furry? Any public 346 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:39,760 comment? Seeing none, do I have a motion to 347 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:42,880 approve item number 10? >> So move. 348 00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:48,320 » Motion by Commissioner Hail, second by Commissioner Mobly. All in favor? I. I. 349 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:53,039 All oppose, same sign. Motion carries five to zero. Item number 11, approval 350 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:58,640 of task order 11 with Miller Lake per Swany County agreement 2025-91 351 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:02,960 for project summit regional emergency shelter for site schematic design and 352 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:06,600 design development services budget impact 3.546,250 353 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:18,400 I mean just do that again $3,546,250 to be paid with grant funds. Mr. Furry 354 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:22,559 my computer froze up on me. Yes, sir. So again, um just another task order. This 355 00:26:20,559 --> 00:26:29,279 is the $3.5 million. So this will get us to about 60% um design plans, the 356 00:26:26,559 --> 00:26:33,200 schematic and design development uh to go into the next step. 357 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:36,400 It won't get us to full construction set of plans. There'll be an additional task 358 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:40,640 order for that. But you got to remember this is a uh quite a large expensive 359 00:26:38,559 --> 00:26:44,880 building that we're doing. So this will get us going in the in that direction 360 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:48,159 and get things started to get to the state once we start showing some of this 361 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:53,200 progress here. I think the state's going to be a lot more willing to get us some 362 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:58,159 more money um through the appropriation process and and try to get this thing 363 00:26:55,840 --> 00:27:03,520 closed out and across the finish line as they say. 364 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:08,320 Any questions of Mr. Furry on that one? >> Any public comment on that? 365 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:11,200 Seeing none, do I have a motion to approve item number 11? 366 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,279 » Motion, Mr. Chairman. >> Is that a motion by you, Commissioner 367 00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:17,360 Land? >> Mayor Fleman. One doesn't matter. 368 00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:21,919 » Motion by Commissioner Lan. Second by Commissioner Fleming. Any further 369 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:27,840 discussion? All in favor? I. I. All oppose. Same sign. Motion carries 5 to 370 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:32,400 zero. Item number 12, approval of Blackwater change order number seven for 371 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:36,240 the discovery of unsuitable soils at the Jefferson [cough] Smith Civic Center. 372 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:39,760 Mr. Furry. >> Okay. So, I've been kind of laying the 373 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,799 groundwork for this, telling you this is coming. That if you've been by that 374 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:46,159 building at all during the last few months, there's it sits up on a clay 375 00:27:44,799 --> 00:27:53,279 hill on that corner. That's why it's the highest spot. So, we uh Yeah, I know. I 376 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:56,320 know. The um So, they they sent us a change order. There's a lot of clay 377 00:27:54,399 --> 00:28:00,080 there they had to remove. I did approve them to remove that at their cost with 378 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:03,200 their trucks and their contractors. I didn't want to tie up Miss Flanigan and 379 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:06,640 our trucks and our staff to try to do that. I didn't want to dump it on our 380 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:11,840 county land right there next to it because it'll just stay there for 5 381 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:15,600 years before it goes anywhere. So, we um we did negotiate. Our engineers have 382 00:28:13,679 --> 00:28:20,399 have went to bat for us on this. They initially submitted is about $135,000 383 00:28:18,159 --> 00:28:24,799 change order and the for the the cubic yards of material. 384 00:28:23,039 --> 00:28:28,399 They're the engineers. They've got all this software and they're smarter than I 385 00:28:26,559 --> 00:28:32,799 am. But they had a 3D model and they were able to go in there and show no you 386 00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:37,760 you only needed to go down X number 24 in and remove that. Anything else was 387 00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:42,080 excess on your that was yours um to eat. So, we did get it down under 100,000. Of 388 00:28:39,919 --> 00:28:45,520 course, right at 100,000 and then their overhead and profit brought it up to the 389 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:50,320 105, but you can see some pictures in there if you want if if you drove by 390 00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:55,919 there. Um, it was it was a mess. So, and now we've got that paid parking lot and 391 00:28:53,679 --> 00:28:59,440 and good to go. But this is uh so as it says, there is no more grant funds. All 392 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:03,919 our other change orders we were able to do with the grant funding. Um, so this 393 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:07,120 one's going to be it's going to be on the county. I can cover it in our budget 394 00:29:05,919 --> 00:29:11,679 here as we're winding down. and I've talked to finance to Mr. Gentry and and 395 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:15,440 Miss Nina and and we've got the money in the budget as we wind down the year, but 396 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:18,480 u it won't have to come out of reserves or contingency or any like anything like 397 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:25,399 that. We'll just we'll be able to cover it out of the board's budget, but it is 398 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:25,399 $100,000 and so that stings. 399 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:31,795 Any questions? >> No, sir. 400 00:29:30,159 --> 00:29:34,880 » Any questions from the public? [clears throat] 401 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,520 » Seeing none, do I have a motion to approve item number 12? 402 00:29:36,799 --> 00:29:41,039 So move. >> Motion by Commissioner Lan. 403 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:46,720 » Second by Commissioner Mobly. Any further discussion? All in favor? I. I. 404 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:52,279 All oppose. Same sign. Motion carries 5 to zero. Are there any additional agenda 405 00:29:49,279 --> 00:29:52,279 items? 406 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,399 Oh yeah. 407 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:03,520 Sorry, Mandy just reminded me on the um on that change order. And I don't 408 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:07,360 hopefully it's not too late if we can amend this. I was supposed to ask you if 409 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:11,360 we could authorize the clerk to go ahead and release the payment to that after 410 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:14,399 tonight's meeting. We're winding down. We've only got a couple weeks left in 411 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:18,640 the grant and the in the project the contract deadline and to close out the 412 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:23,440 grant with commerce. So, we're trying to get those invoices turned in as quick as 413 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:27,840 we as we process them instead of waiting till after the 15th meeting is when we 414 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:31,679 would authorize that next that change order payment typically. But if you've 415 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:35,360 approved it and we can authorize the clerk to release that check, we can go 416 00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:38,880 ahead and get that and pay them and turn that into commerce for reimbursement. 417 00:30:37,039 --> 00:30:41,600 » Mr. Morrison, can he just restate his motion or amend his motion? 418 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:45,279 » We can just add a new motion authorization to release payment 419 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:48,640 pursuant to the task order. >> Can I get a motion in that order? 420 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,520 » So move. >> Motion by Commissioner Hail. 421 00:30:51,039 --> 00:30:57,200 » Second. >> Second by Commissioner Lan. All in 422 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:59,520 favor? I. I. All oppose. Same sign. There you go. 423 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,720 » Thank you. That was the additional agenda item. I guess we don't have any 424 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:08,960 others. >> Thank you, sir. 425 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:13,360 We're down to administrator's comments. >> Okay. Um, first, 426 00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:16,080 » did I miss anything? I'm not running through some stuff, so if I missed 427 00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:18,720 anything, now's your chance. >> I'm not going to slow you down now. 428 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:22,080 » All right. Go ahead. >> Uh, similar to to Mr. Morrison 429 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:26,960 requesting to speak on behalf of the board at the CRA meeting at the end of 430 00:31:24,159 --> 00:31:31,120 September. Um through our discussions with the shelter design as well. Uh I 431 00:31:29,279 --> 00:31:35,120 would like to go to the city next week at their regular city council meeting 432 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:39,440 and start discussions with them about utilities out at the shelter. So the 433 00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:43,840 task order we just did was for onsite. We need to get the utilities to to the 434 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:46,640 site. And so you know we would like to work with the city. We'd like to be 435 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:49,519 partners of theirs. Obviously, we're going to be a customer of theirs if if 436 00:31:48,159 --> 00:31:53,519 this works out and and they'll get the revenue from that. But, uh, just like to 437 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:57,760 go to them and request to be a customer, request them to, uh, make an investment 438 00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:01,360 to bring those utilities from the interstate. I think they're around BusyB 439 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:05,279 right now. So, if they could make the investment to bring those utilities to 440 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:07,679 us at the site for that development. It won't just be the shelter. Obviously, 441 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:11,519 there's going to be a master plan for that whole 400 acres. So down the road, 442 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:15,919 there's going to be plenty of businesses out there and and but this will at least 443 00:32:13,919 --> 00:32:18,720 start the discussion with the city to to how we move forward. 444 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:22,159 » Do you just need consensus or >> I think so. Just it just make me feel 445 00:32:20,399 --> 00:32:24,080 better if if I knew you guys were allowing me to go speak to the city on 446 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,200 our behalf. >> I'm good with it. 447 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,559 » Is that good enough, Mr. Morrison? >> Yep. 448 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:32,640 » Everybody good? >> All right. 449 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:36,880 Thank you for that. Um just a couple little reminders. Nothing nothing really 450 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:40,559 to report. Um budget hearing this Thursday evening. Don't forget about 451 00:32:38,159 --> 00:32:44,720 that. I think it's 505. Um, obviously, and I know you guys will 452 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:49,039 speak to it, but just um, county employee Dennis Nixon and his family 453 00:32:46,399 --> 00:32:53,679 were just had that funeral last week and just continue to lift that family up and 454 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:56,679 over the next little bit of time here. Um, 455 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:01,760 talk about the city also. There's been some some reach out a little bit and 456 00:33:00,159 --> 00:33:06,159 some some discussion offline about Helston Street. I think there, you know, 457 00:33:04,559 --> 00:33:09,679 we went through that about county roads and city roads and that sort of thing. I 458 00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:13,679 think it is a county road. They're talking about making an investment to 459 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:17,200 repair the utilities underneath there. So, if they do do that, it was always my 460 00:33:15,919 --> 00:33:20,399 understanding. I'm not sure. I'm not speaking for you all, but I'd kind of 461 00:33:18,399 --> 00:33:23,360 heard over the years that the county would pave that if they ever fixed it. 462 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:27,279 We weren't going to we would never pave it until the utilities were fixed and 463 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:31,440 had to be torn up. So, I guess I just say that that the city may officially be 464 00:33:29,279 --> 00:33:36,640 reaching out at some point to see if we could plan on budget for and and and 465 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:41,279 pave that road if they are to make all those repairs underneath the street. 466 00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:44,720 Don't need any action. Just want to mention that out there that there'll be 467 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:48,880 some more conversations regarding that and and some official action at some 468 00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:51,360 point. So, >> and if there's a different 469 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:55,039 understanding, let me know so that I can share that with the city. But that was 470 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:58,600 always my kind of general understanding of the project. 471 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:06,640 Did meet with Cat Camics staff yesterday was in town and um just had a brief 472 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:10,800 conversation with them. Um she's up in DC getting ready to to get 473 00:34:08,720 --> 00:34:14,560 to work. So just asking again if if there's anything we need, anything we 474 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:18,800 can do to let her know and and reach out. We'll be going back up there I 475 00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:23,440 think in November, December to DC. So we'll uh we'll see them up there then. 476 00:34:23,919 --> 00:34:30,399 That's really Oh, I was going to mention 250 County Road 250. They have started. 477 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:34,079 I think they're doing some cings and and some stuff that they're not really 478 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:37,119 milling up in what you'd see heavy equipment out there in construction, but 479 00:34:35,359 --> 00:34:41,119 they have started out there and they will be doing that. Uh I think he's been 480 00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:44,079 out of town. Anderson Columbia has been out of town for a little while on 481 00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:47,599 vacation or or out of the office. But tomorrow, I think we're supposed to get 482 00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:53,679 an update on an actual start date. We see some some equipment 483 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:57,599 out there and moving things. So, and I think that's it. We We went to the 484 00:34:55,440 --> 00:35:01,760 co building. Sorry. The Jefferson Smith Civic Center. Apologize. Uh today had a 485 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:06,000 had a walk through with the engineers and the contractor. Kind of a a 486 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:09,040 pre-close out punch list. And um it's looking good. If y'all get a chance and 487 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:13,359 you're through town, stop in there and and um and walk in. But I even think Mr. 488 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:19,440 Norris is going to going to appreciate it and and be surprised by the by the 489 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:22,800 quality of that building. >> That's all I had. Commissioner, unless 490 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:27,359 y'all have any questions for me. >> Any questions? 491 00:35:25,359 --> 00:35:32,320 » I do not. >> Moving on. Uh, which end did we start on 492 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,960 last time? Did you start, Mr. PL? I think we'll start Commissioner Land this 493 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,640 tonight. >> Man, you caught me off guard. 494 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:41,839 » Well, we can start with Commissioner. >> Go ahead. 495 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:45,520 » I don't know what to say, but >> I don't either. That's why I'm kicking 496 00:35:43,359 --> 00:35:49,280 it to you. Well, 497 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:53,200 » you can just do the mobly thing and say, "Thank you for coming." 498 00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:58,400 » Yeah. Thank y'all for coming. [laughter] Thank you for coming. But got to say 499 00:35:55,040 --> 00:36:05,454 this. It is so good to be here. 500 00:36:01,839 --> 00:36:09,760 Um I say congratulation to uh [clears throat] Mr. Blue. 501 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:15,760 Congratulations to you for the primary. Um, 502 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:19,920 I know that um that we 503 00:36:17,900 --> 00:36:19,920 [snorts] 504 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:28,079 have, you know, we voice our opinions and and and uh you know, we have our 505 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:36,240 thoughts, we have our our minds and our understanding. 506 00:36:29,839 --> 00:36:40,800 Uh but we've been have having a rash of death 507 00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:46,400 and it's kind of troubling. We can't change anything. We can't do anything 508 00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:53,520 about it. But um I lost some um classmates, man. Uh last Monday, 509 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:59,839 JT Hinson. I was not able to attend his services 510 00:36:55,839 --> 00:37:05,680 but uh cuz one of my deacons at the church at my [clears throat] home church 511 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:10,960 at the same time he's 52 years old heart attack massive heart attack 512 00:37:08,079 --> 00:37:16,880 it it it it scared you but it kind of prepared you 513 00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:22,560 and u my thought is that I want to tell my wife I either let me 514 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:27,359 go to sleep first but I wouldn't know it or she she wouldn't know if anything 515 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:34,480 happened to her. But we we we got to we have to continue praying. 516 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:40,160 That's the only thing that that we have to keep us keep us in check. We're not 517 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:45,200 perfect, but we have we have a God that's able 518 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:52,640 to keep us in these times. And it's sad. It's so sad when a younger man than me 519 00:37:50,960 --> 00:38:00,880 that I actually looked up to because he was he meant so much to the community to 520 00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:08,000 our a home church and everything and uh uh Commissioner uh Lynn I know he have 521 00:38:04,079 --> 00:38:15,520 to face this with his business but it's hard to see loved ones crying and it 522 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:21,359 make you uh give you cuz I've attended I think 523 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:26,720 three services last week homegoing services and they weren't so pleasant. 524 00:38:24,079 --> 00:38:32,240 It was sad to see how people how they miss their loved ones. 525 00:38:29,119 --> 00:38:37,680 Uh I and I and I just tried to uh put myself in their shoes 526 00:38:35,359 --> 00:38:43,839 and I was sitting there and you tried to comfort these individuals and 527 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:51,680 still don't make it easy. So, I I'm just going to get off of that, 528 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:58,560 but it's tough and it's tough times and I know we got hard roads ahead of us and 529 00:38:54,560 --> 00:39:04,240 maybe I shouldn't have said it, but uh just just on my mind. 530 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:09,280 » Well, thank you, sir. >> Mr. Hail, Commissioner Hail. 531 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:12,640 » Yep. No, I just uh on the heels of that, a lot of loved ones, a lot of friends 532 00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:16,240 have passed in the recent days and weeks, and we just want to lift them up, 533 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:20,640 lift their families up, and like you say, Mr. Fleman, continue to pray for 534 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:24,000 them and be good to one another, be good to our neighbors. You know, it's been a 535 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:28,480 while since I said that, but I think we take things for granted, take life for 536 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:33,520 granted, and uh this is just a short period of time on this earth, folks. 537 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,280 So, pray for those families, please. >> Amen. 538 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,680 » Yeah. Commissioner Lyn. 539 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:42,320 » Yes, sir. I'll disagree with the rest of them. You know, a lot of lot of loss in 540 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:47,280 the community the last couple weeks. Mr. Fleming's Deacon, 52 years old, Mr. JT 541 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:52,880 Henson, Mr. Avery Davis, Miss Batty Nixon, um Mr. Billy Jackson. I was 542 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:59,920 really hoping County Road 250 would get asphalt so he could see it. I mean, Mr. 543 00:39:55,760 --> 00:40:03,520 Mr. Billy was 86, I think, born and raised in Swany County. I believe he 544 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:08,880 lived on County Road 250 probably his whole life. if it was it was he was a 545 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:12,960 small child if he if he wasn't living there but I was really hoping he'd have 546 00:40:11,359 --> 00:40:20,000 been here to see that asphalt because I promised him it was going to happen. Um 547 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:23,599 so I'm glad to hear the the Anderson's about ready to roll. But uh anyway, just 548 00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:27,440 pray for those families as Commissioner Hail and Commissioner Flemings have been 549 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:30,320 saying and a lot of loss and you know pray for your own families and I'm sure 550 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,720 there's others. I always hate calling names up here because there's folks out 551 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:36,320 there that are hurting and suffering that that I don't know or that don't 552 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:40,160 know that they're hurting and suffering and or none of us do. So, just continue 553 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:43,680 to pray for your neighbor. >> Thank you, sir. Commissioner Mley, 554 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:47,440 » I really ain't got nothing. Y'all about said it all. 555 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:53,520 » I'm the same. I just pray >> Cindy Cindy Romero too added that list. 556 00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:57,920 She passed away. >> Yeah. 557 00:40:55,520 --> 00:41:03,040 » All righty. Well, we just pray for all of them and everybody that's that's 558 00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:08,480 having issues and deaths in the family and sickness and uh I know it's a tough 559 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:14,160 time, but I think I'm going to end on on a little good note. I'm excited about 560 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:20,160 Swany County. I'm excited about what we got going on, you know, from Project 561 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:24,079 Summit to well, just all the things. And also, I want to say thank you, Jean, to 562 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:29,760 you and your crew. I actually got a phone call [clears throat] thanking me 563 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:34,000 today for uh for the road y'all paved down in O'Brien Fletcher Road. And uh 564 00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:38,640 that's always nice to hear when you're a commissioner a lot of times is hey we 565 00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:44,800 appreciate that. So hats off to you guys. You did a good job on it. Looks 566 00:41:40,319 --> 00:41:49,920 nice. I appreciate it. Uh, but really excited about Swanny County and what we 567 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:55,119 got going on and and uh I think I don't think everybody realizes kind of what's 568 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:59,839 what's happening, but you will hear pretty soon and uh I think you're going 569 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:03,839 to be excited as I am when you see it. So, with that, I just need a motion to 570 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:07,280 adjurnn. So, move >> motion by Commissioner Lan. Second, 571 00:42:05,599 --> 00:42:13,920 » second by Commissioner Hail. >> 45 minutes 572 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:13,920 » almost record, I think. A for