1 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:43,759 everyone and welcome to this meeting of 2 00:04:43,759 --> 00:04:46,240 the Syracuse Planning Commission. With a 3 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:47,919 quorum present, we will call this 4 00:04:47,919 --> 00:04:50,720 meeting to order. Shortly, we will begin 5 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,360 our public hearings for this evening. 6 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:54,960 However, ahead of that, we do have 7 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,080 minutes from our first meeting of this 8 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,919 month. Those have been circulated in 9 00:04:59,919 --> 00:05:02,479 advance to the commission members and it 10 00:05:02,479 --> 00:05:04,160 would be appropriate at this time for a 11 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,479 motion for action on those minutes of 12 00:05:06,479 --> 00:05:09,840 our May 5th meeting. Is there such a 13 00:05:09,840 --> 00:05:12,160 motion? Oh yeah. I make a motion to 14 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,280 approve the minutes as presented. 15 00:05:15,280 --> 00:05:17,880 Thank you. Discussion on the 16 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,560 motion. There's no discussion. All in 17 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,199 favor, please indicate by saying I. I. 18 00:05:23,199 --> 00:05:26,600 Those opposed, please say nay. Any 19 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,600 abstensions? Our minutes are approved 20 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,520 and we will move into our public hearing 21 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,360 schedule for this evening. Just by way 22 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,360 of introduction for those unfamiliar 23 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,639 with our process. As each application is 24 00:05:38,639 --> 00:05:41,199 announced uh by a member of the staff, 25 00:05:41,199 --> 00:05:43,280 we ask that the applicant come forward 26 00:05:43,280 --> 00:05:44,720 to the podium in the center of the room 27 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,320 using the microphone, provide your name 28 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,400 and address for the record and then a 29 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,039 brief summary of your application. 30 00:05:51,039 --> 00:05:53,120 Following questions from the commission 31 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,520 members, we will then invite members of 32 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,360 the public who wish to speak in favor of 33 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,479 the application to do so. And similarly, 34 00:06:00,479 --> 00:06:02,080 we will invite members of the public who 35 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:03,520 wish to speak in opposition to the 36 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,400 application to do that. Where comments 37 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,160 are offered in opposition, the applicant 38 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:11,919 will be encouraged to return to address 39 00:06:11,919 --> 00:06:14,240 comments made in opposition. And we ask 40 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,759 that all speakers for or against um keep 41 00:06:17,759 --> 00:06:20,080 their minutes to a concise three 42 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,800 minutes. so we can uh accommodate as 43 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,680 many speakers as 44 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,120 possible. With that, I think we are 45 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,680 ready for our first 46 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,280 um application for this 47 00:06:32,280 --> 00:06:36,000 evening. Um so the first agenda items on 48 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,639 the agenda is the resubdivision 49 00:06:38,639 --> 00:06:41,319 application 50 00:06:41,319 --> 00:06:43,919 R-25-9. It's a resubdivision application 51 00:06:43,919 --> 00:06:48,000 to combine 134 and 140 Lafia Road Rear 52 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,440 into one lot. The uh owner and applicant 53 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:56,880 is Paula um and James Carlos uh Sirios. 54 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,840 I'm sorry about the names. It's in the 55 00:06:59,840 --> 00:07:06,510 R4 zone 56 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,680 district. Uh James Kalisino's 134 and a 57 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,280 half Lapia Road, Syracuse, New York. Um 58 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:14,960 I want to do this. Well, first of all, 59 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:19,280 20 years ago I went through this. the property has been deed together for 60 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,599 20 years and had a survey done at the 61 00:07:21,599 --> 00:07:23,199 same time. I hired an attorney to do 62 00:07:23,199 --> 00:07:25,360 everything and we thought it was done. 63 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,280 We bought a shed, put it on the 64 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,199 property, and they said, "You can't put 65 00:07:29,199 --> 00:07:30,639 a shed on a vacant lot." And I said, 66 00:07:30,639 --> 00:07:33,759 "Well, it's not. It's one property." And 67 00:07:33,759 --> 00:07:36,720 so this I have to go through this to to, 68 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:37,880 you 69 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,599 know, make it 70 00:07:40,599 --> 00:07:43,759 right. I guess that's it. Okay. That 71 00:07:43,759 --> 00:07:46,319 simple, huh? It's that simple. Okay. 72 00:07:46,319 --> 00:07:47,840 Thank you. Let's see if there are any 73 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:49,520 questions from the commission members. 74 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,759 Are there any questions for the 75 00:07:51,759 --> 00:07:53,520 applicant? Everything seems in order. 76 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:54,800 It'd be nice to know what went wrong in 77 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,720 1995, but I doubt that we're going to be 78 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,160 able to do that. The attorney's not 79 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,160 around anymore, right? I am curious 80 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:05,440 about the the front property though at uh that address. Uh what's the 81 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:06,919 disposition of that 82 00:08:06,919 --> 00:08:09,440 property? The 134 front because we have 83 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,840 the Yeah, I own that too and I own 128 84 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:18,309 and I own 124. I Okay. 85 00:08:18,319 --> 00:08:22,390 Yeah. Okay. Right. 86 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,960 It's the subject of, right? 140 is our 87 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,039 subject, right? So the 134, you own that 88 00:08:27,039 --> 00:08:33,029 one as well? Yes. Okay. Cool. 89 00:08:33,039 --> 00:08:37,519 Great. Thanks. Thank you. 90 00:08:37,519 --> 00:08:40,000 That it for me? Good. I think we're 91 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,159 good. Thank you. 92 00:08:42,159 --> 00:08:43,919 Are there individuals who would like to 93 00:08:43,919 --> 00:08:45,760 speak in favor of this application? If 94 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,389 so, please come 95 00:08:49,399 --> 00:08:51,519 forward. Anyone wishing to speak in 96 00:08:51,519 --> 00:08:53,040 opposition to the application, please 97 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,030 come to the 98 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,800 podium. We have no speakers for or 99 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,720 against. So, we'll close public comment 100 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,519 on this application and we will turn to 101 00:09:03,519 --> 00:09:07,279 our secret review. Has everyone had a 102 00:09:07,279 --> 00:09:09,360 chance to review the EF part one 103 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,120 prepared by the applicant and contained 104 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,480 in your packet? Yes. Has everyone had a 105 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,240 chance to review the EF part two 106 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:17,920 prepared by staff and contained in your 107 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,120 packet? Yes. Does anyone believe that 108 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,360 the pro proposed action will have a 109 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,760 moderate to large impact under seeker? 110 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,240 No. Having determined there will be no 111 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,240 moderate to large impacts, I recommend 112 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:31,839 that the commission make a negative 113 00:09:31,839 --> 00:09:33,680 declaration and prepare the part three 114 00:09:33,680 --> 00:09:36,240 EF accordingly. 115 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,720 Thank you. Is there such a motion? 116 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,360 Uh yes. I make a motion to uh issue a 117 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,600 negative seeker declaration. 118 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,760 Thank you. 119 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,519 Discussion on this seeker 120 00:09:49,519 --> 00:09:52,590 motion before 121 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,120 us. There's no discussion. All in favor 122 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:56,880 of the seeker motion, please indicate by 123 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,399 saying I. I. I. Those opposed, please 124 00:10:00,399 --> 00:10:02,760 say nay. Any 125 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,399 abstensions? That seeker motion is 126 00:10:05,399 --> 00:10:07,760 approved. We can now proceed to the 127 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:12,670 resubdion itself. This is 128 00:10:12,680 --> 00:10:15,360 R25-9. Is there a motion for action on 129 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:19,200 this? I make a motion to approve uh 130 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:23,030 application R-25-9 131 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:24,880 uh with two conditions beyond the 132 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,279 general conditions. One condition is the 133 00:10:27,279 --> 00:10:31,760 uh filing of the reubocate reubdivision 134 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,600 uh approval with the county clerk's 135 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,640 office within 62 days. And a second uh 136 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,519 condition is uh issuing of the permit 137 00:10:39,519 --> 00:10:41,720 for demolition or for 138 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,560 the acceler accessory building to make 139 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:49,600 it appropriate shed. Okay. Thank you. 140 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:54,069 Is there a second? Second. 141 00:10:54,079 --> 00:10:58,910 Is there discussion on the 142 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,440 motion? If not, all in favor of this 143 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,320 motion for R219, please indicate by 144 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:09,640 saying I. I. Those opposed, please say 145 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,360 nay. Any 146 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,959 abstensions. Every subdivision for 147 00:11:15,959 --> 00:11:20,399 R219 is approved. Thank you. 148 00:11:20,399 --> 00:11:22,680 project completed after 20 149 00:11:22,680 --> 00:11:25,680 years and we move on to our next uh 150 00:11:25,680 --> 00:11:27,519 application. 151 00:11:27,519 --> 00:11:29,680 The next items on the agenda is a 152 00:11:29,680 --> 00:11:33,800 resubdivision application also. It's 153 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,959 R-25-20. Um it's a application to 154 00:11:36,959 --> 00:11:40,519 combine three lots at 155 00:11:40,519 --> 00:11:44,320 1062 and 2016 Bernardet Avenue into one 156 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,200 new lot. Killing Wright, Greater 157 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:48,720 Syracuse Property Development 158 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,760 Corporation is the owner of 106 Bernett 159 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:56,760 Avenue and applicant Mike Kersy uh 160 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,160 1012-1016 Bernard Avenue LLC is the 161 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,200 owner of the 1012 and 1016 Bernard 162 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:07,760 Avenue. It's in the MX3 zone district. 163 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,399 Thank you. Good evening. I'm Terry 164 00:12:10,399 --> 00:12:12,959 Luckett with Syracuse Land Bank, 1941 165 00:12:12,959 --> 00:12:17,519 South Salina Street. Um 106 Bernett A 166 00:12:17,519 --> 00:12:20,320 has been in our inventory since 2018 and 167 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,320 we just demolished a single family house 168 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:27,440 there um just this past April. Uh 1012 169 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,639 and 1016 is owned by Mike Corsy. His 170 00:12:30,639 --> 00:12:33,040 plumbing business is there. he would 171 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,440 like to purchase the lot and um just 172 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,360 keep it green space and try to take care 173 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:41,040 of it so that the street looks good. Um 174 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:42,959 in the short term and in the long term 175 00:12:42,959 --> 00:12:44,800 he might expand his parking for the 176 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,839 plumbing business. Um the lot is is 177 00:12:47,839 --> 00:12:51,920 buildable. It's in MX3. It's 43x 125, 178 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,639 but it's unlikely that any new 179 00:12:54,639 --> 00:12:58,079 construction will happen there on a very 180 00:12:58,079 --> 00:13:00,560 busy commercial corridor backing up to 181 00:13:00,560 --> 00:13:03,160 690. Um 182 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:07,880 it's, you know, relatively small for for 183 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,560 um single family construction or even 184 00:13:10,560 --> 00:13:14,000 multifamily construction. Um three sub 185 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,600 one won't alter the character. There's 186 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,200 other lots that are um 200 feet wide 187 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,910 just across the street. 188 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,519 Thank you. Questions for the applicant. 189 00:13:27,519 --> 00:13:28,800 Yeah. I'm sorry. Could you explain again 190 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:35,440 the demolition that occurred there? Was on 106 or 106 or which property was 191 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:40,430 it? One Z6 land bank house. Okay. 192 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:47,629 Right. Further questions for the 193 00:13:47,639 --> 00:13:49,720 applicant. Thank you, 194 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,480 Terry. Are there individuals who would 195 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:53,760 like to speak in favor of this 196 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,760 application? If so, please come forward, 197 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,360 provide your name, address, and 198 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,079 comments. 199 00:14:01,079 --> 00:14:03,440 Anyone wishing to speak in opposition to 200 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,230 the application, please come 201 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,440 forward. We don't appear to have any 202 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,360 additional speakers in this application. 203 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,480 So, we will close public comment and 204 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:25,949 turn our attention to our seeker 205 00:14:25,959 --> 00:14:28,920 review. 206 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,279 Has everyone had a chance to review the 207 00:14:31,279 --> 00:14:33,839 EAF part one contained in your packet? 208 00:14:33,839 --> 00:14:36,160 Yes. Yes. Has everyone had a chance to 209 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,760 review the EAF part two in your packet? 210 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,839 Yes. Yes. Does anyone believe the 211 00:14:41,839 --> 00:14:43,680 proposed action will have a moderate to 212 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,880 large impact under Seeker? No. No. 213 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,160 Having determined there will be no 214 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:49,839 moderate to large impacts, I recommend 215 00:14:49,839 --> 00:14:52,000 that the commission make a negative 216 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:53,760 declaration and prepare the part three 217 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,920 EAF accordingly. 218 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,279 Thank you. Is there such a seeker 219 00:14:59,279 --> 00:15:00,959 motion? 220 00:15:00,959 --> 00:15:02,800 I make a motion to issue a negative 221 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,440 seeker declaration. 222 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,600 Thank you both. Discussion on this 223 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,480 seeker 224 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,240 motion. If there's no need for 225 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,079 discussion, then all in favor of the 226 00:15:14,079 --> 00:15:18,160 motion, please indicate by saying I. I. 227 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,440 Those opposed, please say 228 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:24,399 nay. Any abstensions? 229 00:15:24,399 --> 00:15:27,600 The seeker motion is approved and we may 230 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:32,509 now consider the reubdivision itself 231 00:15:32,519 --> 00:15:35,120 R25-20. Uh before forming a motion on 232 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:36,560 this, I just have a clarifying question 233 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,079 I want to make sure because in our staff 234 00:15:38,079 --> 00:15:40,240 recommendations, we have two conditions. 235 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,199 A suggested one is the customary filing 236 00:15:43,199 --> 00:15:44,560 of the resubdivision with the county 237 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,800 clerk. But the second was a comment 238 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,360 about the uh a permit for demolition of 239 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,720 106 Bernett Avenue. But it's my 240 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,320 understanding as a question that's taken 241 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,959 care of. It's already been taken down. 242 00:15:56,959 --> 00:16:00,399 Okay. Right. Um so I make a motion to 243 00:16:00,399 --> 00:16:04,230 approve R-25-20 244 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,000 uh with one condition beyond general 245 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,680 conditions that being the customary 246 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,560 filing of the reub uh with the county 247 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,480 clerk's office within 62 days of 248 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,720 approval. 249 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,920 Thank you. Thank you. Discussion on this 250 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:23,030 motion. 251 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,040 And if there's no discussion, all in 252 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,920 favor of this motion for 253 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,759 R25-20, please indicate by saying I. 254 00:16:30,759 --> 00:16:36,199 Those opposed, please say nay. Any 255 00:16:36,199 --> 00:16:39,880 abstensions. This reubdivision is also 256 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,480 approved. We move to yet another 257 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,360 reubdivision this evening. 258 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,160 The next uh application in on the agenda 259 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,120 is 260 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:54,160 R-25-21. Um it's a resubision to combine 261 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:58,800 the lot at 105 and 106 Hatch Street into 262 00:16:58,800 --> 00:16:59,560 one 263 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:04,000 lot. The uh 105 Hashry was owned by is 264 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,919 owned by Kaling Wright, Greater Syracuse 265 00:17:05,919 --> 00:17:08,720 Property Development Corporation, and 266 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,400 the 107 Hashry is owned by Greg Prouty. 267 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,600 Uh the two of the uh lots are both in 268 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,480 the R3 zone district. 269 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,559 Thank you. 270 00:17:20,559 --> 00:17:23,439 Terry Luck at Syracuse Land Bank, 1941 271 00:17:23,439 --> 00:17:27,120 South Salena Street, uh 105 Hatch. This 272 00:17:27,120 --> 00:17:30,960 one was demolished back in 2020. Greg 273 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,080 Prrowy is um a recent purchaser of the 274 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,960 adjacent house. He would like to uh 275 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:38,799 fence the property in for additional 276 00:17:38,799 --> 00:17:40,400 yard space. 277 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,120 He already has a shared driveway on the 278 00:17:43,120 --> 00:17:45,600 with the property next door at 111. So, 279 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:46,960 he doesn't need a driveway. He just 280 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,120 wants additional lot space at this time. 281 00:17:50,120 --> 00:17:53,039 Um, the lot's not going to change the 282 00:17:53,039 --> 00:17:55,360 character of the neighborhood. Uh, it'll 283 00:17:55,360 --> 00:17:58,960 create a lot measuring 60 ft 68 ft by 284 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,000 165. And that's consistent with other 285 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:06,640 sites in the area. Um, 112 114 has 66, 286 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,400 126 has 60, 133 has 70. There's lots of 287 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,120 examples of wider houses. I'm assuming 288 00:18:13,120 --> 00:18:15,160 there's been other demolitions on that 289 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:19,280 street. Um, that's it. 290 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,760 Thank you. Are there questions for the 291 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:28,230 applicant for this subdivision? 292 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:29,720 Okay. Thank 293 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,160 you. Are there individuals who would 294 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:33,840 like to speak in favor of this 295 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,760 application? If so, please come to the 296 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,590 podium. 297 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,679 Anyone wishing to speak in opposition to 298 00:18:41,679 --> 00:18:46,510 the application, please come 299 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,760 forward. We have no additional speakers. 300 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,480 So, we will close, excuse me, we will 301 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,720 close public comment for this 302 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,840 application and consider our seeker 303 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,160 review next. 304 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:01,840 Have all the commissioners had a chance 305 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,080 to review the EF part one prepared by 306 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,360 the applicant and contained in your 307 00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:08,000 packet? Yes. Has everyone had a chance 308 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,160 to review the EAF part two prepared by 309 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,720 staff and contained in your packet? Yes. 310 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,640 Does anyone believe the proposed action 311 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,160 will have a moderate to large impact 312 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,120 under seeker? No. Having determined 313 00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:20,480 there will be no moderate to larger 314 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,960 impacts, I recommend that the commission 315 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,039 make a negative declaration and prepare 316 00:19:25,039 --> 00:19:28,320 the part three EAF accordingly. 317 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,840 Thank you. Is there such a motion? 318 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,600 Uh, yes. Yes. I make a motion to issue a 319 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,520 negative declaration, a negative seeker 320 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,520 declaration. 321 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:43,070 Thank you both. Discussion on this 322 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,440 motion. There's no discussion. All in 323 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,360 favor, please indicate by saying I. I. 324 00:19:49,360 --> 00:19:51,640 Those opposed, please say 325 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,679 nay. Any 326 00:19:54,679 --> 00:19:57,950 abstensions? 327 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:03,200 Resubd 21 is approved. Thank you. 328 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,880 We move to our 329 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:17,669 next application. 330 00:20:17,679 --> 00:20:22,870 Just did the secret. 331 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:29,830 Just did seek and resub. 332 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:37,029 We just did the secret. We did. 333 00:20:37,039 --> 00:20:39,520 In that case, um, now that our secret 334 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,559 review is completed, my apologies. 335 00:20:42,559 --> 00:20:44,480 Um, we will turn our attention to the 336 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,400 reubdivision for 337 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,200 R2521. And is there a motion for 338 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,799 action for this reubdivision 339 00:20:52,799 --> 00:20:55,280 application? Sure. I make a motion to 340 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,320 approve 341 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,159 R-25-21 as presented with two conditions 342 00:21:00,159 --> 00:21:02,000 beyond a general condition. One is the 343 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,559 customary condition for filing the 344 00:21:04,559 --> 00:21:06,559 resubdivision map with the county clerk 345 00:21:06,559 --> 00:21:09,200 office within 62 days. And the second 346 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,200 condition is with respect to the 347 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,919 necessity for a permit if the fence is 348 00:21:13,919 --> 00:21:16,159 to be installed on the adjacent 349 00:21:16,159 --> 00:21:18,720 property. 350 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,440 Thank you both. 351 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,320 Discussion all that there. We all had a 352 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,520 little discussion here. Um but if 353 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,360 there's no discussion, all in favor of 354 00:21:27,360 --> 00:21:31,960 the motion, please indicate by saying I. 355 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,400 Those opposed, please say 356 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,240 nay. Any 357 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,760 abstensions? Now the reubdivision, she's 358 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,720 left already for R 359 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,559 2521 is 360 00:21:43,559 --> 00:21:46,440 approved. And we move to 361 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:52,070 another item on our agenda this evening. 362 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:56,830 The following items on the agenda is 363 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,280 MISPER-25-44. This is a minor site plan 364 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,760 review application that was referred by 365 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,520 the zoning administrator to the city 366 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,240 planning commission. Uh this project was 367 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,679 located is located at 294 Jefferson 368 00:22:09,679 --> 00:22:12,240 Street West to Warden Street. The 369 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,320 property owner and applicant is Adward 370 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:20,000 Godlip Pacific Properties in INC. Uh, 371 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,480 this property is located in MX5 home 372 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,120 district. 373 00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:26,760 Thank 374 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,280 you. If the applicant is here, please 375 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,400 come forward. 376 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:33,760 Provide your name and address and the 377 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,000 summary of the application, please. Yes, 378 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,799 I'm Joe Gilagno. I am the registered 379 00:22:38,799 --> 00:22:41,919 agent for Ed Gotautle at 294 West 380 00:22:41,919 --> 00:22:44,640 Jefferson to Walton. Sorry, could you 381 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,720 speak into the Oh, microphone. First 382 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,919 time, right? Uh, so yes, I'm Joe Gil 383 00:22:49,919 --> 00:22:52,640 Vagno. I'm the agent for Edward Gotautle 384 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,840 at 294 West Jefferson Street to Walton. 385 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,000 Um, here for a change of use from a 386 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,750 restaurant to a bar. 387 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,720 Any other details or information that 388 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,480 would be appropriate to share for this 389 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,440 application? 390 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,720 None. None that I can think of. 391 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,080 Are there any questions from the 392 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,630 commission members for the applicant? 393 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:23,510 You want to go first? 394 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,280 Okay. So, uh this is a minor site plan 395 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,919 review which customarily does not come 396 00:23:29,919 --> 00:23:32,440 before the planning commission 397 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,600 not get 398 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,760 uh kicked up to you. So, it's 399 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,440 automatically a major because it started 400 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,840 out as a minor. I'm sorry in our 401 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,600 documentation it's listed as a major. So 402 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,760 the reason why it got kicked up is 403 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,039 because we have a very long history of 404 00:23:48,039 --> 00:23:51,159 violations uh with this particular uh 405 00:23:51,159 --> 00:23:53,919 property and therefore we need to take 406 00:23:53,919 --> 00:23:56,799 care to make sure that since there is a 407 00:23:56,799 --> 00:23:58,960 provisional certificate of use in place, 408 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,640 we need to make sure that if this 409 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,240 business is to continue operating in 410 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,640 this location uh that it's operating 411 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,840 safely legally within the environmental 412 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,760 context. And so we have a long history 413 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,480 of complaints uh with respect to this 414 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,000 property and that's why it's here before 415 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,960 us right right now. So in dealing with 416 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,360 those kinds of situations what we at the 417 00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:20,720 planning commission try to do because 418 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,640 it's not our business to try and deny 419 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,159 people the opportunity to operate a 420 00:24:24,159 --> 00:24:25,760 business. We just want to make sure the 421 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,840 business can operate safely legally and 422 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,360 within the appropriate context within 423 00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:30,559 the neighborhood. And so we have to 424 00:24:30,559 --> 00:24:32,400 address these issues. So that's why this 425 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,559 particular application is before us 426 00:24:34,559 --> 00:24:36,159 kicked up from a minor site plan review 427 00:24:36,159 --> 00:24:40,679 to a major site plan review and our uh 428 00:24:40,679 --> 00:24:43,200 orientation in trying to deal with these 429 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,520 kinds of situations is to use various 430 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,600 tools that we have our at our disposal. 431 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,120 In this particular case, there's a me 432 00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:51,840 memorandum of of understanding that was 433 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,279 formed between the city and the 434 00:24:54,279 --> 00:24:57,200 proprietor of the business and also I 435 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,919 would emphasize uh the owner of the 436 00:24:59,919 --> 00:25:02,320 property as well. Uh because with a 437 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,799 special use permit that runs with the 438 00:25:04,799 --> 00:25:08,200 land, not just the proprietor, the the 439 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,480 business specifically. So we have to 440 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,000 address that issue with respect to the 441 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,840 landlord as well. And so we're in a 442 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,200 situation where we have to establish 443 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,440 those conditions to make sure that this 444 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,480 prop this this uh uh property operates 445 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,400 this business operates within the 446 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,279 boundaries of the code law and the 447 00:25:25,279 --> 00:25:27,039 expectations for the neighborhood. So in 448 00:25:27,039 --> 00:25:30,320 this case we have recommendation for 449 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,200 nine conditions uh that have to be met 450 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,440 in order for this business to continue 451 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,600 operating. I think that given the 452 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,520 circumstances, it's important to read 453 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,760 those specific conditions so that 454 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,919 they're absolutely clear and and and 455 00:25:43,919 --> 00:25:46,400 understood because again it's important 456 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,039 to understand that in cases like this 457 00:25:49,039 --> 00:25:51,760 the planning commission is only making a 458 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,679 recommendation to the common council and 459 00:25:53,679 --> 00:25:55,840 so in order to make that recommendation 460 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,480 we need to make sure that the 461 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,919 application is addressing all the issues 462 00:25:59,919 --> 00:26:01,760 that need to be addressed. So I would 463 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,640 like to uh go through those nine special 464 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,400 conditions in this particular case 465 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,559 because it's it's important. Uh the 466 00:26:08,559 --> 00:26:10,400 first special condition would be that 467 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,320 the business mustain compliance with the 468 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:13,760 maintenance the memorandum of 469 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,520 understanding signed on 470 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,760 32825. Uh and then the next five 471 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,120 conditions are specifically related to 472 00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:25,679 that memorandum of un understanding. The 473 00:26:25,679 --> 00:26:27,279 second condition is that business shall 474 00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:29,440 control noise levels to a reasonable 475 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,919 degree so as not to violate the city's 476 00:26:31,919 --> 00:26:34,640 uh local noise ordinance located in 477 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,240 chapter uh 40 section 4016 of the 478 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,679 revised general ordinance for the city 479 00:26:39,679 --> 00:26:42,320 of Syracuse. The third item is that the 480 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,080 business does not have an entertainment 481 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,559 license and may not have live 482 00:26:46,559 --> 00:26:48,799 entertainment. No live entertainment is 483 00:26:48,799 --> 00:26:50,400 permitted without an entertainment 484 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,960 license, including but not limited to a 485 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,159 dance floor, live music, DJs, dancers, 486 00:26:56,159 --> 00:26:58,320 and karaoke. Uh the the fourth 487 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,159 stipulation is a business may not use 488 00:27:00,159 --> 00:27:02,559 amplified speakers to project music 489 00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:04,720 outside and will control any speaker 490 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,720 volumes inside so as not to violate the 491 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,919 city's local noise ordinance located at 492 00:27:09,919 --> 00:27:12,720 chapter 40, section 40-16 of the rise 493 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,880 general ordinance. Five is a business 494 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,480 shall not sell alcohol past the legally 495 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,279 permitted hour of 2 am and shall close 496 00:27:21,279 --> 00:27:23,760 operation by 2:30 a.m. The business 497 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,480 shall not shall make sure no patrons 498 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,480 will be permitted to enter the premises 499 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,960 outside of operating hours and all 500 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,360 patrons must vacate the premises within 501 00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:36,000 30 minutes of closing time. Six 502 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,080 designated security staff shall monitor 503 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,080 the exterior premises during operating 504 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,440 hours after 10 p.m. and 4:30 minutes 505 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,919 after closing time uh to prevent loing 506 00:27:45,919 --> 00:27:48,799 and disturbances. Seven, the business 507 00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:50,960 must strictly adhere to operational 508 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,039 hours which are determined appropriate 509 00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:54,720 and approved by the city planning 510 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,559 commission. And the hours that we have 511 00:27:56,559 --> 00:27:59,760 in our application are 4:00 p.m. to 512 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,480 12:00 a.m. for Monday through Wednesday. 513 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,960 uh Thursday through Saturday at 11:00 am 514 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,320 to 2 am and on Sunday from 12:00 pm to 515 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,120 900 pm. Item eight is the owner 516 00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:13,200 applicant shall work with the Syracuse 517 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,679 Police Department to conduct a crime 518 00:28:15,679 --> 00:28:18,279 prevention through environmental design 519 00:28:18,279 --> 00:28:21,760 review of the subject tenant space and 520 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,760 implement all of the recommendations in 521 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,200 the SET. Um and then item nine is any 522 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,320 violations of the conditions above will 523 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,840 result in revocation of the land use 524 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,000 approval. Uh so those are our uh 525 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,480 recommended conditions if this project 526 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:47,789 is 527 00:28:47,799 --> 00:28:53,440 approved comments or do you want to 528 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,919 react to that? Okay. Can I ask a 529 00:28:55,919 --> 00:28:57,600 question? Yeah, please. Are you the 530 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,919 property manager? I am. You are? Okay. 531 00:28:59,919 --> 00:29:01,600 Of the whole property? Yeah. Of the 532 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,559 person, not just the Not just the bar. I 533 00:29:04,559 --> 00:29:06,559 do have uh I do have the tenant with me. 534 00:29:06,559 --> 00:29:10,159 Okay, great. Um so, you're representing 535 00:29:10,159 --> 00:29:12,480 God. Yes. 536 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,240 I think that one of the things that 537 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,520 everybody wants to make clear here is 538 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,000 that the owner of a property as well as 539 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,080 the tenant of a property has equal 540 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,320 responsibility to adhere all of the 541 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,360 rules and regulations ordinances that 542 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,480 the 543 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,520 municipality presents to the 544 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,279 operation. So it's not just a tenant 545 00:29:38,279 --> 00:29:44,190 obligation, it's as well an owner 546 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,960 public sure that everybody's hearing 547 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:51,679 that. Understood. Okay. 548 00:29:51,679 --> 00:29:54,840 Okay. Additional 549 00:29:54,840 --> 00:30:00,950 comments, questions for the applicant. 550 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,320 Okay. Thank you. Thank you. We'll pause 551 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,799 now and ask if there are any individuals 552 00:30:06,799 --> 00:30:09,159 who would like to speak in favor of this 553 00:30:09,159 --> 00:30:11,919 application. If so, please come forward, 554 00:30:11,919 --> 00:30:13,679 provide your name, address, and your 555 00:30:13,679 --> 00:30:15,360 comments. 556 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,440 Uh, my name is Randall Han. I am the 557 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,760 minority owner at Top House on Walton. 558 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,159 Uh, for the conditional of the space, 559 00:30:22,159 --> 00:30:24,159 uh, I'm located at 120 East Washington 560 00:30:24,159 --> 00:30:27,240 is where my office is here in downtown 561 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,679 Syracuse. Um, I'd like to actually talk 562 00:30:29,679 --> 00:30:32,080 about some of these things is I think, 563 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,760 uh, the level of proof in some of these 564 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,320 accusations, as I call them, is uh, very 565 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:39,880 minimal. 566 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:44,240 Uh I have had calls since August to the 567 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,480 state liquor authority. Um we were 568 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,039 cleared back in October. I do have that 569 00:30:49,039 --> 00:30:52,720 here stated. Um I do see that the pro 570 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,039 page that you guys provided of all the 571 00:30:55,039 --> 00:30:56,840 property checks 572 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:01,440 between September 28th and March 8th 573 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,159 that is provided in your zoning shows on 574 00:31:04,159 --> 00:31:05,840 the far when you see final action it 575 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,559 says 41 and 06. that is clearing, making 576 00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:09,840 sure that nothing is going on at the 577 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,320 property and in appropriate hours when 578 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,240 those 44 calls at the bottom of the 579 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,720 violation say that they were stated. Um, 580 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,559 there was never any proof of any after 581 00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:20,960 hours. We've uh been able to debunk 582 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,799 that. I think it's a a big following 583 00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:24,080 from the people upstairs. I understand 584 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,399 that the blue tusk was a a huge thing in 585 00:31:26,399 --> 00:31:29,360 downtown Syracuse. We are a bar below 586 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,520 residential. Um, the ticket that was 587 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,520 issued was thrown out in court for the 588 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,679 noise ordinance. Uh, that was that was 589 00:31:35,679 --> 00:31:39,039 thrown out. Um, I I have cameras inside 590 00:31:39,039 --> 00:31:41,039 the facility that actually record the 591 00:31:41,039 --> 00:31:43,840 audio. I also submitted to Amir Gathers. 592 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,600 The city council requested all of the 593 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,159 video showing for six weekends that we 594 00:31:48,159 --> 00:31:49,360 were out the door and out of the 595 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,919 building by 2:30 a.m. I think a lot of 596 00:31:51,919 --> 00:31:53,840 this, and we're having this now, is due 597 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,320 to the escalation of the exaggeration of 598 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,240 stories. Um, and I understand that the 599 00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,840 tenants are upset. I understand that the 600 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,279 former owner of the Blue Tusk was a 601 00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:04,320 resident up there. Um, we do, my 602 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:05,760 business partner has started to buy 603 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,519 properties up there, so I'm well aware 604 00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:09,519 of all the emails. I saw the one go out 605 00:32:09,519 --> 00:32:11,720 on Friday where they encourage people to 606 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,399 come stand against us not to be open or 607 00:32:14,399 --> 00:32:16,080 be able to have live entertainment. 608 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,760 We've lost employees on Friday and 609 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:18,799 Saturday because we're not allowed to 610 00:32:18,799 --> 00:32:21,600 have a DJ, live entertainment, music, 611 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,919 bands. We've had your own Joe Driscoll 612 00:32:23,919 --> 00:32:26,000 down there playing. So, we do a variety 613 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,559 of things. As you see in your emails, 614 00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:30,480 they're starting to come through to Zong 615 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,640 here. uh level of support from my peers 616 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,720 in the area. The owner of Margaritas is 617 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,000 wrote the owner of Touché and Nobodyies. 618 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,159 Um Tom and Nelli from Next Door is 619 00:32:40,159 --> 00:32:42,080 sending an email right now from his 620 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,320 office. So, we support everyone in the 621 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:45,840 area. We provide a lot of jobs and we're 622 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,440 just a bar just like everybody else. 623 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,919 We've had no complaints except f except 624 00:32:49,919 --> 00:32:53,440 the Saturday from 10 to 2 a.m. The 625 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:54,799 neighbors upstairs will just call and 626 00:32:54,799 --> 00:32:57,039 make noise complaints. Uh I don't think 627 00:32:57,039 --> 00:32:59,840 that's fair. is they've all been cleared 628 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,760 as you see here in in the paper that you 629 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,919 provided. Um, and I've been working with 630 00:33:05,919 --> 00:33:07,840 the police. We got together in November. 631 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,840 I didn't, however, in the summertime the 632 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,679 guys provided a base speaker that was 633 00:33:11,679 --> 00:33:14,320 removed back in November. Um, let me 634 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,880 just say this. The last six weeks or 635 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,320 eight weeks since this all occurred and 636 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,399 we signed that paper uh under distress 637 00:33:20,399 --> 00:33:21,840 because you guys would not let us 638 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,399 operate if we didn't sign it. that we've 639 00:33:24,399 --> 00:33:26,399 ran the same type of music just off of 640 00:33:26,399 --> 00:33:28,399 an iPad and there hasn't been one police 641 00:33:28,399 --> 00:33:30,559 call for a noise ordinance during this 642 00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:32,880 time and I have video of this. So, I 643 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,240 just want to be clear that nothing's 644 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,320 changed and how I understand that 645 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:37,679 there's a level of support for the place 646 00:33:37,679 --> 00:33:39,039 and there's a lot of people like, "Hey, 647 00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:40,159 I'm not going to go down there because 648 00:33:40,159 --> 00:33:41,760 it's not the blue tusk." I understand 649 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,360 that and I respect everybody's point of 650 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,120 view. I just don't think it's fair that 651 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,559 some of these restrictions are in place 652 00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:48,480 to to hinder us from being able to 653 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,960 operate normally like everybody else. as 654 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,480 long as we adhere to having all of the 655 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,799 proper permits and uh everything else 656 00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:58,950 that's required of us. 657 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,200 So what specifically are you objecting 658 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,840 to if anything? So when it says the 659 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,279 businesses cannot have an entertainment 660 00:34:05,279 --> 00:34:07,440 license, we do want to be able We don't 661 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,040 use amplified speakers. Um I can't see 662 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,679 all of that. Okay, let me stop you then. 663 00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:15,839 Doesn't say can't. It says does not. It 664 00:34:15,839 --> 00:34:19,359 says that you don't have one currently. 665 00:34:19,359 --> 00:34:22,520 And I believe the condition is intended 666 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,879 to make sure that if you intend to have 667 00:34:25,879 --> 00:34:28,079 entertainment, you apply for the 668 00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:29,919 license. Yes. And we will we will do 669 00:34:29,919 --> 00:34:31,359 that. I just wanted to clarify that 670 00:34:31,359 --> 00:34:32,879 because when I talked to Eric, I was a 671 00:34:32,879 --> 00:34:34,480 little confused today. Eric, it doesn't 672 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,359 say you can't get one. It just says you 673 00:34:37,359 --> 00:34:40,159 have to get one if you want to do it. 674 00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:42,000 Outside of our business hours. Okay. I 675 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,679 just want to make that very clear. Okay. 676 00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:45,119 What was the last part? We've never 677 00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:46,960 operated outside of our business hours. 678 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,800 Good. I even have you even have an email 679 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,320 from an SPD officer that works the 680 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,480 detail downtown. He sent an email in 681 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,800 today, right, of support for us, right? 682 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,200 We did receive that. Yep. So, there are 683 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,280 noise ordinances in the city for 684 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,560 everybody. Just for But what I'm saying 685 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,240 is we're not exceeding the normal noise 686 00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:05,839 ordinance of what a bar would be. That's 687 00:35:05,839 --> 00:35:07,839 the goal. Yep. 688 00:35:07,839 --> 00:35:09,640 But the same speakers that I was using 689 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,160 prior between November when that bass 690 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,760 speaker was removed between prior and 691 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,160 March um those same speakers have been 692 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,760 used the last eight weeks and there's 693 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,320 not been one 694 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:25,000 call. Um and just like attribute that to 695 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,040 um to be honest with you I don't know 696 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,240 because it's the same music. There's 697 00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:29,920 just no there's not somebody standing 698 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,560 there with a guitar or a DJ packet, you 699 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,359 know? It's just that's the 700 00:35:34,359 --> 00:35:36,480 difference. But that's what draws. So, 701 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:37,839 we do, as you see, there's an email 702 00:35:37,839 --> 00:35:40,079 there from the president of uh Upstate 703 00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:42,240 Medical. We do two events a month that 704 00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:44,640 fundra for their program at Upstate. 705 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,680 They are uh a blackowned kind of 706 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,359 business type thing. They do an Afrouse 707 00:35:49,359 --> 00:35:52,320 Beads. Um they come in twice a month and 708 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,079 I allow them to charge at the door. They 709 00:35:54,079 --> 00:35:55,359 take that money and they put it towards 710 00:35:55,359 --> 00:35:57,680 Upstate Medical Program and he details 711 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,320 that in his email to you guys. Um they 712 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,240 do provide a DJ on their own. did used 713 00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:04,400 to use a bass speaker which I could see 714 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,400 when I met with the city and the 715 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,000 neighbors upstairs where that could be a 716 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,320 problem. So we debunked all that but 717 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,000 still after that I see that there was 718 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,079 still 44 calls of noise complaints put 719 00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:16,079 in. But even if you see on some of them, 720 00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:18,240 even in the the police ledger, they were 721 00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:20,000 all cleared on the noise complaints, 722 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,720 meaning that there wasn't a there was no 723 00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:31,190 noise ordinance. 724 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,800 Well, I guess so just to clarify, I 725 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,680 mean, your objection is to the issue of 726 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,599 being able to have live entertainment 727 00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:39,680 and all the other stipulations. If 728 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,079 everything is happening uh the way it's 729 00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:43,119 supposed to happen, there shouldn't be 730 00:36:43,119 --> 00:36:44,720 any problems moving forward. 731 00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:46,000 Unfortunately, we're not in a position 732 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,160 where we we can determine which 733 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:49,599 complaints in the past have been valid 734 00:36:49,599 --> 00:36:50,800 and which complaints have not been 735 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,800 valid. We can only address what what we 736 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,800 have before. So, moving forward, if 737 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,079 there are no more complaints, it's not a 738 00:36:56,079 --> 00:36:57,480 problem. So, the issue is the 739 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,359 entertainment and if you want to have 740 00:36:59,359 --> 00:37:00,560 entertainment, then you just have to 741 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,280 apply for an entertainment license. 742 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,359 Yes, that's fine. Maybe I missed just to 743 00:37:05,359 --> 00:37:06,960 make sure. Well, maybe I didn't read it 744 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,880 correctly, but the point is correct. You 745 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,320 don't have a license right now, so there 746 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,000 can be no live entertainment. Now, if 747 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,280 you want to have live entertainment, you 748 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:14,640 have to apply for a live entertainment 749 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,119 license. Yes, sir. And we do have 750 00:37:17,119 --> 00:37:18,880 security. Uh the the actual director of 751 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,480 our security is the director of the mall 752 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,760 security. Uh he should be 753 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,800 here any minute now. He got the mall. Um 754 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,640 but I'm sure he'll speak. And again, 755 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,200 like I said, we hire him. So, he handles 756 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,599 all of our security Friday and Saturday. 757 00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:35,040 Yes, ma'am. And actually, one of his 758 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:41,150 security guards is here as well. So, 759 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:47,630 Other questions for the 760 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,760 applicant? Okay, great. We're good for 761 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,560 now. Thank you. Are there individuals 762 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,640 who would like to speak in favor of this 763 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,400 application? If so, please come to the 764 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,040 podium, provide your name, address, and 765 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:08,950 comments. 766 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,680 Hello. Hello. My name is Daniel Anger. I 767 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,520 am one of the security guards at Tap 768 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,920 House on Walton. I just wanted to take 769 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,359 time out to say um we've made sure that 770 00:38:19,359 --> 00:38:21,359 Tap House is a fun and safe environment 771 00:38:21,359 --> 00:38:24,320 for everybody. That includes everybody. 772 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,280 And in this time, I understand that some 773 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:31,280 people have issues with uh alleged noise 774 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,440 from downstairs. 775 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:34,880 respect and understand people's 776 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,240 boundaries and what they'd like. Same 777 00:38:37,240 --> 00:38:39,839 time, in the last couple weeks, we 778 00:38:39,839 --> 00:38:42,320 haven't had any issues as far as noise 779 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,400 because we don't have any live 780 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,240 entertainment. As he said earlier, we 781 00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:51,960 play music off of a iPhone or iPad 782 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,960 uh so that people enjoy themselves while 783 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,280 they're having their drinks. Um any 784 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,680 events that we've ever had as of recent 785 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,599 especially are to raise money for 786 00:39:02,599 --> 00:39:06,000 Upstate. Um any issues that we have had 787 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,000 aren't our issues. Anything outside of 788 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,880 the walls of TAP House, it's outside of 789 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,000 our jurisdiction. And we have great 790 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,440 relationships with SPD to take care of 791 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,000 and stop any 792 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,960 uh issues from starting before they even 793 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,119 start. 794 00:39:24,119 --> 00:39:26,720 So, I just wanted to take time out to 795 00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:30,240 say um we've followed and complied with 796 00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:31,839 any rules or regulations that have been 797 00:39:31,839 --> 00:39:34,240 put in place and we'll continue to do so 798 00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:37,200 going forward. 799 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,200 Thank you. 800 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,800 There are other individuals who wish to 801 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,640 speak in favor of the application. 802 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,440 Please come to the 803 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,880 podium, provide your name, address, and 804 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,920 your comments. 805 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,160 Hello. Good evening. Uh my name is 806 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,640 Shantel Powell. I am the owner of 807 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,200 East Coast Bandits. We are a vinyl shop 808 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,720 downtown. We're also an event planning 809 00:39:59,720 --> 00:40:02,640 business. Um I have worked closely with 810 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,200 the venue to host brunches, uh baby 811 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,599 showers, various community centered 812 00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:11,400 events, um such as Syracuse's CBT Alumni 813 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,960 Weekend. Um I can attest to their 814 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,880 commitment to creating an atmosphere 815 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,200 that supports small businesses and 816 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,119 enhances the cultural atmosphere of 817 00:40:21,119 --> 00:40:24,480 downtown Syracuse. Um, uh, Tap House has 818 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,040 partnered with us and many other local 819 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,119 creators and organizations that reflect 820 00:40:29,119 --> 00:40:32,839 positively in our community. 821 00:40:32,839 --> 00:40:35,920 Um, allowing them what they need would 822 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,920 allow them to continue what is already a 823 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,160 space for music and creativity, which is 824 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,640 important, and it also opens up more 825 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,359 opportunities for responsible night life 826 00:40:45,359 --> 00:40:47,480 um, and economic growth in the 827 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,920 neighborhood. Thank you. Thank you very 828 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,200 much. 829 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:52,960 Are there other individuals who wish to 830 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,400 speak in favor of the application? 831 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,240 Please come forward, provide your name 832 00:40:56,240 --> 00:40:58,079 and address for the record and your 833 00:40:58,079 --> 00:41:00,800 comments. 834 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,680 How's it going? My name is Nike Evans. I 835 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,920 actually run security uh for Tap House 836 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,319 under Evans Security Services. Uh one of 837 00:41:08,319 --> 00:41:11,280 my guys actually just spoke um a moment 838 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:15,920 ago. Yes. So I I think that the it 839 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,440 should be approved. Um, I've been 840 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,160 working for Tap House for 841 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,760 probably maybe two years, uh, a little 842 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,599 bit more. Um, I've actually known the 843 00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:25,920 owner as a personal friend for probably 844 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,240 about seven years. Uh, I've been doing 845 00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:30,560 security for bars downtown. In my 846 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,480 personal opinion, I would have to say 847 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,720 his bar has been the safest I've ever 848 00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:36,800 worked at. Um, I've worked at, like I 849 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,240 said, other bars, uh, ranged from CSP to 850 00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:42,000 margaritas, uh, different things like 851 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:47,680 that. and uh my team put on the the most 852 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,280 phenomenal 853 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,920 uh staffing they can u when it comes to 854 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,920 safety protocols, different things like 855 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,119 that. Uh there has never been an issue 856 00:41:57,119 --> 00:41:59,760 uh with inside the bar. Um typically 857 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,240 when things you know go outside the that 858 00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:04,400 bar, uh we handle it the best way we can 859 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,720 even with the help of Syracuse police uh 860 00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:09,040 which also they do a phenomenal job with 861 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,200 assisting me. Um, but I will say from a 862 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,680 personal uh standpoint, we have never 863 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,400 had any issue inside. Um, ever since 864 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,480 November, uh, the loud music hasn't been 865 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,359 an issue. Um, which is also good. I know 866 00:42:21,359 --> 00:42:23,040 sometimes, you know, people complain 867 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,240 about that and, you know, living 868 00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:26,560 downtown and I understand. Um, but there 869 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,359 has never been any issues, um, even from 870 00:42:29,359 --> 00:42:30,280 music 871 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,200 standpoint. So, 872 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,640 I, like I said, in my opinion, I would 873 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,240 like it to be granted. Um, I've been 874 00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:38,640 doing work there for over two years at 875 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,200 least, and I'd like to continue that. 876 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,880 Um, the the owner has been exceptional. 877 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,200 Uh, he he's done great things for this 878 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,839 community, for this city. Uh, and and to 879 00:42:49,839 --> 00:42:53,200 see it to go opposite, it would I would 880 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,599 be uh kind of upset, a little 881 00:42:55,599 --> 00:42:58,160 disappointed, but uh, like I said, my 882 00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,920 name is Nike from Evans Security 883 00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:02,520 Services. I do the security for Randy. 884 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,280 Um, and that's all I have. Okay, thank 885 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:06,119 you very 886 00:43:06,119 --> 00:43:08,560 much. Are there other individuals who 887 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,000 wish to speak in favor of this 888 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:15,710 application? If so, please come 889 00:43:15,720 --> 00:43:18,480 forward. So, next I will ask, is there 890 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,319 anyone wishing to speak in opposition to 891 00:43:20,319 --> 00:43:22,560 the application? If so, please come to 892 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,200 the podium, provide your name, address, 893 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,750 and your comments. 894 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,720 Hi, my name is Reagan Cuddi. I am a 895 00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:35,760 resident and owner uh in the uh center 896 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,119 armory condominiums right above this 897 00:43:38,119 --> 00:43:40,880 establishment. Um and I have been one of 898 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,079 the people who has been directly 899 00:43:42,079 --> 00:43:44,480 affected uh historically by some of 900 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,560 these noise uh and vibration issues. Um 901 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,119 I will I would like to acknowledge that 902 00:43:51,119 --> 00:43:53,520 yes we did have discussions uh in 903 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,359 November of this past year and that the 904 00:43:57,359 --> 00:44:00,000 reduction in use of the DJ speakers did 905 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,599 reduce the vibrational noise. So 906 00:44:01,599 --> 00:44:04,079 appreciated that change. I think my 907 00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:06,240 concern and why I wanted to make sure I 908 00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:07,960 was here tonight is just 909 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,800 that this change and I appreciate there 910 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,720 are the conditions currently there feels 911 00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:16,880 as though um the change from land use of 912 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,720 a bar restaurant to bar with the 913 00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:20,720 accessory use for entertainment opens 914 00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:24,119 the door for um going back to live 915 00:44:24,119 --> 00:44:26,000 entertainment which is where we 916 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,960 previously experienced these issues. Um, 917 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,640 when I moved back to Syracuse 5 years 918 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,720 ago and and bought downtown, it's 919 00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:34,079 because I care about and I want to 920 00:44:34,079 --> 00:44:36,480 invest in the city. And I would love to 921 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,400 see these establishments succeed. And 922 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:39,640 so, I'm not here 923 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,400 to try and and squash this and squash 924 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,079 progress. I just want to make sure that 925 00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:47,240 as residents, our investment and in our 926 00:44:47,240 --> 00:44:50,960 homes are still places that we can live 927 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,119 and work and do all of those things and 928 00:44:53,119 --> 00:44:55,760 that it's it can be done in a way that 929 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,400 we can coexist. 930 00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,079 Um, some things that came to mind for me 931 00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:01,920 in in addition to some of the staff 932 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,040 recommendations were, you know, if this 933 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,480 live music and live entertainment had 934 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,000 not happened before, are there things 935 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,480 that have been done in terms of either 936 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,720 acoustical studies or soundproofing or 937 00:45:12,720 --> 00:45:14,079 other measures that could be taken? 938 00:45:14,079 --> 00:45:16,720 Because it feels like there there could 939 00:45:16,720 --> 00:45:19,760 be other options to explore. And at the 940 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,520 end of the day, I think it's I don't 941 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,359 want it to be an us against them. I 942 00:45:23,359 --> 00:45:29,680 think we all have a vested interest in this area being uh inhabited by 943 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,480 responsible and collaborative owners and 944 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,119 tenants. And that's I think why I'm here 945 00:45:35,119 --> 00:45:37,280 today to just say that as it was 946 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:38,720 currently submitted, I felt like I 947 00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:40,720 needed to say something in opposition, 948 00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:43,760 but it's not in opposition to the change 949 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,000 happening. 950 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,280 So, thank you. Thank you. 951 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,440 Are there other individuals who wish to 952 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,359 speak in opposition to the application? 953 00:45:53,359 --> 00:45:56,599 If so, if so, please come to the 954 00:45:56,599 --> 00:45:58,800 podium. Provide your name and address 955 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:06,430 and then your comments. 956 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,200 Hi, Reynolds. I'm also a resident in 957 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,079 Center Armory. Um, I want to echo a lot 958 00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:13,760 of what Reagan said and just saying that 959 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,359 like this is by no means a complaint 960 00:46:15,359 --> 00:46:17,680 about progress and activity downtown. 961 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,599 Living downtown for the last few years 962 00:46:19,599 --> 00:46:21,680 has been a joy. I love being down there. 963 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,760 I work downtown. I live downtown. I like 964 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,440 to spend my money and be an active 965 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,079 participant downtown. It's really hard 966 00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:30,960 to do so though when you can't get sleep 967 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,480 on the weekends because your house is 968 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,560 shaking. And I think that that's just 969 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,040 one of the things that I it has tapered 970 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:38,640 certainly, but I think it's one of those 971 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,839 things where the structure 972 00:46:40,839 --> 00:46:44,240 just maybe isn't built for that kind of 973 00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:46,960 m that kind of activity. And it's hard 974 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,520 to acknowledge that there are still 38 975 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,119 units upstairs who care and want to be 976 00:46:53,119 --> 00:46:55,520 downtown and they want to support. It's 977 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,760 just that it's hard when you know you 978 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,160 have a family and you're up all night on 979 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,200 Friday, Saturday, Thursday sometimes. Um 980 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,200 because it's just not it's literally 981 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:06,880 shaking your home. I think that's the 982 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,480 hardest part. The noise is something 983 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,319 that's very common in downtown. You're 984 00:47:10,319 --> 00:47:12,240 used to it. The the people, the music 985 00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:15,119 outside, it's very obvious and you kind 986 00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:17,280 of expect that. It's just when it's 987 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,520 literally below you that is really 988 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,280 difficult to get past. And I think sort 989 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,440 of I have a similar concern of like if 990 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:24,359 these 991 00:47:24,359 --> 00:47:26,880 things aren't held to or if there isn't 992 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,720 that acknowledgement that that kind of 993 00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:30,319 level of base and that shaking will 994 00:47:30,319 --> 00:47:31,760 continue. And that's just it's just 995 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,359 incredibly disruptive to all of us 996 00:47:33,359 --> 00:47:36,390 upstairs. 997 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,280 Thank you. Can I just ask a question? 998 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,079 Have you noticed an improvement? I have. 999 00:47:42,079 --> 00:47:43,760 We've noticed an improvement uh 1000 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,440 specifically in the last eight weeks. 1001 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,480 Okay. Um I think that the core maybe of 1002 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,480 what the issue is is the live music and 1003 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,079 the or the kind of it. It's hard to 1004 00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:55,680 tell, but I think that like when the the 1005 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,119 iPad music that they're talking about 1006 00:47:57,119 --> 00:47:59,200 that's not bothersome. A touch tunes is 1007 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,119 not bothersome. I think it is just 1008 00:48:01,119 --> 00:48:02,960 dependent on the sound and speakers and 1009 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,040 the system. Yeah. And and it's hard to 1010 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:06,480 tell. It's and it's certainly not 1011 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,000 constant, right? You know, to their 1012 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,839 credit, like they've made some changes 1013 00:48:09,839 --> 00:48:11,359 and that's really helpful, but I think 1014 00:48:11,359 --> 00:48:13,920 that it just is dependent on what's 1015 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,560 playing and who's in there and how late. 1016 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:21,440 Has there been a adherence to the hours 1017 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,079 uh to close it too? As far as we know, 1018 00:48:24,079 --> 00:48:26,720 yes, the the quiet it gets really quiet 1019 00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:30,000 after that. Yeah. Thanks, 1020 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,680 Thank you. 1021 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,680 Are there other individuals who wish to 1022 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,920 speak in opposition to the application? 1023 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,440 If so, please come to the podium, 1024 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,200 provide your name and address for the 1025 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,440 record, and then share your comments 1026 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:48,870 with us. 1027 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,359 Uh, good evening. My name is PJ Nolan. I 1028 00:48:51,359 --> 00:48:53,920 am the owner of the Limick Pub located 1029 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,000 at 134 Walton Street. 1030 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,680 Um, I've had the privilege of running 1031 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,839 that business for about 20 years and we 1032 00:49:01,839 --> 00:49:05,720 have been in business for 30. 1033 00:49:05,720 --> 00:49:09,680 Um, I felt compelled to speak today 1034 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,559 because I am very committed to Armory 1035 00:49:12,559 --> 00:49:14,440 Square. I also happen to live above 1036 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,359 margaritas. 1037 00:49:16,359 --> 00:49:21,359 And the outcome the outcomes for Walton 1038 00:49:21,359 --> 00:49:25,119 and Armory affect more than just the 1039 00:49:25,119 --> 00:49:26,640 people upstairs, the people across the 1040 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,720 street like myself. It affects the 1041 00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:30,200 surrounding neighborhood in its 1042 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,240 entirety. And that's what I want to 1043 00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:34,040 speak to. 1044 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:38,160 Um, since the last maybe five years, 1045 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,960 Armory has been recovering from a 1046 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,200 reputation that is not a safe place to 1047 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:44,680 go. There have 1048 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,599 been there have been um some violence. 1049 00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:49,119 There have been stabbings. There have 1050 00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:51,599 been people have been killed. This has 1051 00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:54,880 been an ongoing process where I have 1052 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,359 been to probably 20 different meetings 1053 00:49:57,359 --> 00:49:59,599 with the Armory Square Association and 1054 00:49:59,599 --> 00:50:02,920 we talk about security at every single 1055 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,240 one. So for 1056 00:50:05,240 --> 00:50:08,720 me, I have live music twice a week. I 1057 00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:10,160 understand the permitting. I understand 1058 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:11,760 the timing of that. I understand it is 1059 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,440 good for business. I also want to s see 1060 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,880 businesses around me succeed. I I don't 1061 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,040 think that anyone is here is coming and 1062 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,000 doing it out of spite or out of um 1063 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,200 dislike for successful 1064 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,920 businesses. I do worry about my staff. 1065 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,079 Uh I worry about them walking to their 1066 00:50:34,079 --> 00:50:37,040 car at night when proper security 1067 00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,520 measures are not being taken. We are 1068 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,119 very grateful for the police um in at 1069 00:50:43,119 --> 00:50:45,520 the intersection of Walton. They do a 1070 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,160 wonderful job of making sure that we are 1071 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,559 safe while they are there. We understand 1072 00:50:50,559 --> 00:50:51,760 that there has been a lot of 1073 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,280 conversation about when they are and and 1074 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,760 when they are not. But um that being 1075 00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,920 aside, that is my number one issue. That 1076 00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,800 is my number one concern. Um I 1077 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,559 appreciate these conditions being added 1078 00:51:04,559 --> 00:51:08,440 as I hadn't seen them before. 1079 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,760 Um again, it's just about, you know, 1080 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:15,359 walking three blocks to your car. uh at 1081 00:51:15,359 --> 00:51:16,880 2:30 in the morning when you're closing 1082 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,119 up and making sure that it's not just 1083 00:51:19,119 --> 00:51:20,559 inside your space that you're taking 1084 00:51:20,559 --> 00:51:22,559 care of, but it's the surrounding area 1085 00:51:22,559 --> 00:51:24,240 as well because we all walk those 1086 00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:26,520 sidewalks and we all live in this 1087 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,480 neighborhood. So, thank you for your 1088 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,359 time. Thank 1089 00:51:30,359 --> 00:51:33,040 you. Are there other individuals who 1090 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:34,960 wish to speak in opposition to the 1091 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,480 application? If so, please come to the 1092 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,480 podium, provide your name, address, and 1093 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:46,549 your comments. 1094 00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:49,520 I don't see anyone additionally stepping 1095 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:53,839 up to speak on this application. So we 1096 00:51:53,839 --> 00:51:56,400 will close public comment but as noted 1097 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,240 earlier at the outset of the meeting 1098 00:51:58,240 --> 00:51:59,720 where comments are offered in 1099 00:51:59,720 --> 00:52:02,000 opposition. The applicant has an 1100 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,079 opportunity to address comments made in 1101 00:52:04,079 --> 00:52:07,119 opposition. So if you wish to do so 1102 00:52:07,119 --> 00:52:18,710 um now would be the time to do that. 1103 00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:22,510 It's 1104 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:26,240 optional touch on the noise level. Um 1105 00:52:26,240 --> 00:52:27,760 the noise complaints that we have been 1106 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,800 getting. Um it's very consistent with 1107 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,040 Armory Square. I manage a significant 1108 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,280 amount of properties in Armory Square. 1109 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,079 Um and every weekend there is noise 1110 00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:40,800 complaints. There's a lot of movement on 1111 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,480 the streets outside of these bars. Um, 1112 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,079 just coming from the homeowners 1113 00:52:46,079 --> 00:52:48,880 association upstairs. I have multiple 1114 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,599 complaints on tenants here and there. 1115 00:52:51,599 --> 00:52:53,920 One being the Crooked Cattle, one being 1116 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,839 LM Social. Um, I I think it's part of 1117 00:52:57,839 --> 00:53:00,079 being an Armory Square. Um, our 1118 00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:01,599 buildings are built pretty well. We have 1119 00:53:01,599 --> 00:53:03,280 acoustical drop ceiling. We have 1120 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,520 insulation above them. We do everything 1121 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,559 in our power to keep the noise and 1122 00:53:08,559 --> 00:53:12,319 vibration from going upstairs. Um, and 1123 00:53:12,319 --> 00:53:13,839 that's really all I have. We're trying 1124 00:53:13,839 --> 00:53:16,960 our best here. So, thank you guys for 1125 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,440 your time today. Thank you. Thank you. 1126 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:23,119 So, we'll close um or already did close 1127 00:53:23,119 --> 00:53:25,040 public comment on this, but we will now 1128 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:30,400 turn our attention to our seeker review. 1129 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,240 Um, has everyone had a chance to review 1130 00:53:32,240 --> 00:53:34,319 the EAF part one prepared by the 1131 00:53:34,319 --> 00:53:36,400 applicant and contained in your packet? 1132 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:40,079 Yes. Has everyone reviewed the EAF part 1133 00:53:40,079 --> 00:53:43,200 two contained in your packet? Yes. Yes. 1134 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,040 Does anyone believe the proposed action 1135 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:46,800 will have a moderate to large impact 1136 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,640 under Seeker? 1137 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,960 No. 1138 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,319 Having determined there will be no 1139 00:53:52,319 --> 00:53:54,720 moderate to large impacts, I recommend 1140 00:53:54,720 --> 00:53:56,480 that the commission make a negative 1141 00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,319 declaration and prepare the part three 1142 00:53:58,319 --> 00:54:01,440 EAF accordingly. 1143 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,800 Thank you. Is there such a motion? 1144 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,400 Sure. Make a motion to issue a negative 1145 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,200 seeker declaration. 1146 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:10,960 Second. 1147 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,119 Discussion on the seeker motion before 1148 00:54:13,119 --> 00:54:16,549 us. 1149 00:54:16,559 --> 00:54:18,319 There's no discussion. Then all in favor 1150 00:54:18,319 --> 00:54:20,599 of the motion, please indicate by saying 1151 00:54:20,599 --> 00:54:26,599 I. I. Those opposed, please say nay. Any 1152 00:54:26,599 --> 00:54:29,720 abstensions? The seeker motion 1153 00:54:29,720 --> 00:54:32,880 carries. And we turn our attention to 1154 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:40,670 the major site plan review MISPR 1155 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,920 2544. Uh so question I guess before we 1156 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:48,839 form a motion I just make sure does this continue as 1157 00:54:48,839 --> 00:54:51,200 MISPR-25-44 or should this be renumbered 1158 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,319 as a major site plan review? Just wanted 1159 00:54:54,319 --> 00:54:55,839 to clarify that because we had some 1160 00:54:55,839 --> 00:54:57,520 concession and to clarify for the 1161 00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,359 audience that as a major site plan 1162 00:54:59,359 --> 00:55:01,359 review the planning commission is the 1163 00:55:01,359 --> 00:55:04,880 final decision on the application. So is 1164 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,640 that correct or do we need to change the we wouldn't change it just for our 1165 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:13,670 own recordeping. Okay. 1166 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:17,359 Yeah. Great. Okay. Thank you. 1167 00:55:17,359 --> 00:55:19,599 I also have one quick question on the 1168 00:55:19,599 --> 00:55:22,160 security piece. Part of the conditions 1169 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,920 or one of the condition discussions 1170 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:29,119 is your security, your inside security 1171 00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:31,000 partaking in 1172 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:35,280 outside observing the security at from 2 1173 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:39,599 to 2:30. Is that something that you see 1174 00:55:39,599 --> 00:55:54,950 possible? 1175 00:55:54,960 --> 00:56:05,549 I understand that. Right. 1176 00:56:05,559 --> 00:56:23,150 Right. 1177 00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:35,069 also 1178 00:56:35,079 --> 00:56:47,630 buddies. These 1179 00:56:47,640 --> 00:57:01,309 guys, but it's just 1180 00:57:01,319 --> 00:57:22,789 speaker. As far as the structure, 1181 00:57:22,799 --> 00:57:25,359 That'd be great. I think to the woman 1182 00:57:25,359 --> 00:57:27,359 from Limmerick's point, you know, if 1183 00:57:27,359 --> 00:57:29,040 everybody's doing the same thing in the 1184 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,680 neighborhood, it's only going to help 1185 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:42,390 protect the neighborhood. 1186 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,960 I I have one more question. Have you 1187 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:49,040 applied for an entertainment permit 1188 00:57:49,040 --> 00:58:02,349 until this? Until this. 1189 00:58:02,359 --> 00:58:43,589 Okay. Obviously, 1190 00:58:43,599 --> 00:58:45,839 Okay, there's a lot of lines in play 1191 00:58:45,839 --> 00:58:47,920 here. There's a lot of stuff in one. 1192 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:53,990 Yeah, 1193 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,000 that's good. 1194 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,240 Okay. Sorry. 1195 00:58:58,240 --> 00:58:59,920 So, I guess we're set for motion. We 1196 00:58:59,920 --> 00:59:01,280 are. I mean, I just want to say I 1197 00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,760 appreciate the comments both for and 1198 00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:05,280 against the project because hopefully 1199 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:06,960 this is how we sort out these things and 1200 00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,040 come up with an outcome that's suitable 1201 00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,599 for everybody and it seems like things 1202 00:59:11,599 --> 00:59:12,960 are moving in the right direction. So, 1203 00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:14,880 the only issue now is if you get the 1204 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,559 entertainment license and can operate 1205 00:59:16,559 --> 00:59:18,079 according to the guidelines, then 1206 00:59:18,079 --> 00:59:21,000 everything will be hunky dory moving 1207 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:42,710 forward. Okay. 1208 00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,000 Is there then 1209 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:50,000 a motion? So I I make a motion uh to uh 1210 00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,630 approve uh 1211 00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,160 MISPR-24-44 with the nine conditions 1212 00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,480 that were read into the record earlier 1213 00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,599 in the uh the meeting. 1214 01:00:01,599 --> 01:00:03,920 And those conditions include the SEPTAD. 1215 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,280 Yes, they do. Recommendation for study 1216 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:08,799 as well as the general conditions. As 1217 01:00:08,799 --> 01:00:15,109 well as general conditions. Correct. 1218 01:00:15,119 --> 01:00:17,839 Thank you. Discussion now on this motion 1219 01:00:17,839 --> 01:00:25,630 before us with the conditions enumerated 1220 01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,799 earlier. If not then all in favor of the 1221 01:00:28,799 --> 01:00:31,040 motion as proposed please indicate by 1222 01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:35,720 saying I. I. I. Those opposed please say 1223 01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:39,309 nay. Any 1224 01:00:39,319 --> 01:00:41,920 abstensions? The major site plan review 1225 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,680 is approved with the conditions noted. 1226 01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,520 Thanks to everyone who spoke on this 1227 01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,200 application. Uh we move to our next 1228 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:56,470 project. 1229 01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,040 Okay. The next item on the agenda is the 1230 01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:02,400 SU Syracuse University hotel projects. 1231 01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:06,559 Um it it includes two companion 1232 01:01:06,559 --> 01:01:08,799 application. One is the resubdivision 1233 01:01:08,799 --> 01:01:12,319 application R-25-22. 1234 01:01:12,319 --> 01:01:16,520 Another one is the project plan review 1235 01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:21,480 Z-2A98. It's located at the 600 1236 01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:25,839 602602.5 604 and 606 University Avenue. 1237 01:01:25,839 --> 01:01:28,400 The Syracuse University is the owner and 1238 01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,839 Jennifer C. Byby is the uh applicant. 1239 01:01:31,839 --> 01:01:34,480 It's all the districts are in all the 1240 01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:38,480 properties are in the P zone district. 1241 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:40,480 Good evening. My name is Joe Elf Fury, 1242 01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,000 executive director of campus planning, 1243 01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:43,200 design, and construction at Syracuse 1244 01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,119 University. Jennifer could not be here 1245 01:01:45,119 --> 01:01:47,520 tonight. We're here tonight to present a 1246 01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,599 new hotel to be constructed. It's 1247 01:01:49,599 --> 01:01:51,760 proposed on the university campus within 1248 01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,520 the main campus PI subdist 12. The site 1249 01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:57,839 is on the west side of University A, 1250 01:01:57,839 --> 01:01:59,359 north of Adam Street and south of 1251 01:01:59,359 --> 01:02:01,520 Harrison Street. The university owned 1252 01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,240 and operated University Aar is directly 1253 01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:06,960 across University Avenue to the east. 1254 01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,200 new hotel will fulfill a vital need for 1255 01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,359 both the university comm community and 1256 01:02:11,359 --> 01:02:13,839 the larger Syracuse community as well. 1257 01:02:13,839 --> 01:02:16,000 The hotel is designed to comply with all 1258 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,559 zoning requirements. The university has 1259 01:02:18,559 --> 01:02:20,480 applied for both project plan review and 1260 01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,119 a resubdivision applications. Please 1261 01:02:23,119 --> 01:02:24,319 note the university is not seeking 1262 01:02:24,319 --> 01:02:25,760 approval of zoning applications at 1263 01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:27,599 tonight's hearing. Rather requesting 1264 01:02:27,599 --> 01:02:30,319 that the planning commission equalist 1265 01:02:30,319 --> 01:02:32,319 issue a seeker negative declaration 1266 01:02:32,319 --> 01:02:35,040 tonight. As your packets show, we have 1267 01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:36,960 submitted extensive analysis of 1268 01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:38,559 potential environmental impacts, 1269 01:02:38,559 --> 01:02:41,359 included third-party consultant analysis 1270 01:02:41,359 --> 01:02:42,640 and have proposed measures were 1271 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,640 appropriate to ensure there are no 1272 01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,559 resulting significant adverse 1273 01:02:46,559 --> 01:02:49,040 environmental impacts. 1274 01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,280 Additionally, uh despite the late 1275 01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,480 breaking art news article, um Syracuse 1276 01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,119 the univers Syracuse University has uh 1277 01:02:57,119 --> 01:02:59,599 obtained capacity to serve letters from 1278 01:02:59,599 --> 01:03:02,880 city water, uh Anadaga County, Aquep and 1279 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,119 National Grid like we would do with all 1280 01:03:05,119 --> 01:03:07,520 of our normal projects, the preceding 1281 01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,640 three you've seen uh 1282 01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:11,760 recently. So, thank you for having us on 1283 01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:13,839 the agenda for tonight. Um, with us 1284 01:03:13,839 --> 01:03:17,200 tonight are Brian Merch, associate uh, 1285 01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,000 architect and principal at 1286 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,079 DLR group architects, Sarah Sturz, 1287 01:03:22,079 --> 01:03:23,520 associate principal at King and King 1288 01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:25,280 Architects, and Greg Fuchche, partner 1289 01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:27,920 from Whiteitman Osterman Hannah outside 1290 01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:29,680 council for the project. I'll now turn 1291 01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,079 over the presentation to Brian Merch to 1292 01:03:32,079 --> 01:03:34,000 present the design of the proto proposed 1293 01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:38,150 hotel. Thank you. 1294 01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,079 Thanks, Joe. Good afternoon or good 1295 01:03:40,079 --> 01:03:42,079 evening, everybody. My name is Brian 1296 01:03:42,079 --> 01:03:44,720 Merch. I represent DLR Group. We're a 1297 01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,799 national architecture firm and I'm one 1298 01:03:46,799 --> 01:03:48,839 of the design architects working on the 1299 01:03:48,839 --> 01:03:51,359 hotel. I've got a handful of slides to 1300 01:03:51,359 --> 01:03:53,119 share tonight just to cover a couple 1301 01:03:53,119 --> 01:03:56,559 bases for where we're at with things. Um 1302 01:03:56,559 --> 01:03:58,799 first, a little context. Those five 1303 01:03:58,799 --> 01:04:01,440 parcels being combined um currently 1304 01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:04,079 parking lots in their existence and the 1305 01:04:04,079 --> 01:04:06,240 thought here is to convert that into our 1306 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:10,230 new hotel. 1307 01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:11,640 Next 1308 01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:13,920 slide. Maybe a little more technical 1309 01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,480 data just showing the site boundaries, 1310 01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:22,829 the setbacks as well as some of the 1311 01:04:22,839 --> 01:04:26,520 utilities. This is a jigsaw 1312 01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,880 puzzle. Um, maybe a little too high res 1313 01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:33,720 for Yeah, maybe a little 1314 01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:36,079 refresh. Essentially, we tried to create 1315 01:04:36,079 --> 01:04:38,480 a context map for the hotel just to show 1316 01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,640 it in relation not only to the 1317 01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:42,559 neighborhood but also its relationship 1318 01:04:42,559 --> 01:04:45,230 back to the 1319 01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:47,760 campus. We also indicated some of those 1320 01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:50,160 roof heights just trying to capture the 1321 01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,559 scope and scale of the new hotel in in 1322 01:04:52,559 --> 01:04:55,280 relation to the buildings around us. Oh 1323 01:04:55,280 --> 01:05:01,510 boy, 1324 01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:05,750 this is going to make my job harder. 1325 01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,599 We have it. 1326 01:05:08,599 --> 01:05:11,960 Okay. Um, let's see where. Okay. So, 1327 01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:15,280 then the site plan. Oh, here we go. 1328 01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:16,760 Okay, 1329 01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,480 cool. Context 1330 01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:22,160 map. So, you can see the orange dot that 1331 01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:23,480 represents the 1332 01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,400 hotel again just in its conformance and 1333 01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:27,760 just the bigger composition of the 1334 01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,640 neighborhood around us. 1335 01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:32,559 The next slide I think really highlights 1336 01:05:32,559 --> 01:05:35,440 where we're at with the design currently 1337 01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,160 in site 1338 01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:40,079 plan. The middle section probably the 1339 01:05:40,079 --> 01:05:42,599 most significant part is the hotel 1340 01:05:42,599 --> 01:05:45,200 tower. Programmatically we have about 1341 01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:49,039 200 guest rooms in total. Um to go with 1342 01:05:49,039 --> 01:05:51,440 that we have an extension of that lobby 1343 01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,280 space which is the podium building or 1344 01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:54,799 what we call our event space. We've got 1345 01:05:54,799 --> 01:05:57,720 about a 4200 foot ballroom in 1346 01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:01,200 preunction. Um, and then lastly, at the 1347 01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,960 bottom of that sheet, there is 1348 01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:08,280 a parking garage, an elevated parking 1349 01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,720 structure. Um, a couple other points to 1350 01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:14,240 make on this slide is the access points. 1351 01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,160 So, just thinking about guest arrival 1352 01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:19,200 and some of those peak times. Um, the 1353 01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:20,720 black arrow there represents kind of 1354 01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:22,640 that entry courtyard. We've created an 1355 01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,480 autoc court for cars to be able to 1356 01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:28,240 access uh from university and allow um 1357 01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:30,400 ingress and egress to our to our lobby 1358 01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,599 from there. There's a access point along 1359 01:06:33,599 --> 01:06:35,359 University along the sidewalk just to 1360 01:06:35,359 --> 01:06:37,559 invite people in from that 1361 01:06:37,559 --> 01:06:40,640 point. And then lastly, the other u 1362 01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:42,400 point of contention here would be our 1363 01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:44,720 three bay truck birth in the back of the 1364 01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:46,160 building. You can see it there on the 1365 01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,640 left in between the Skyler Commons 1366 01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:51,119 building and the new hotel. 1367 01:06:51,119 --> 01:06:55,870 It would be accessed off of Harrison. 1368 01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:58,079 Obviously, the last slide we have to 1369 01:06:58,079 --> 01:07:00,160 share just tries to capture the scope 1370 01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:01,799 and scale of the 1371 01:07:01,799 --> 01:07:03,839 elevations. It's going through a lot of 1372 01:07:03,839 --> 01:07:06,720 detail currently. But more importantly, 1373 01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,640 I think the architectural inspiration 1374 01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:10,799 was based on, you know, the campus 1375 01:07:10,799 --> 01:07:12,240 buildings, what we're trying to do to 1376 01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,559 marry that material pallet as well as 1377 01:07:14,559 --> 01:07:16,319 just thinking about our context and some 1378 01:07:16,319 --> 01:07:17,760 of the buildings around us and how we 1379 01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:19,280 merge that all together as a 1380 01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,119 composition. 1381 01:07:21,119 --> 01:07:22,960 Lots of glazing and glass as you can 1382 01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,039 imagine the views from the upper guest 1383 01:07:25,039 --> 01:07:27,200 rooms as well as at the street frontage 1384 01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,000 along University and Harrison our 1385 01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:31,440 frontages. Just thinking about how that 1386 01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,520 activity of the lobby space spills out 1387 01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:35,359 onto the sidewalk and really creates an 1388 01:07:35,359 --> 01:07:38,240 inviting environment for guests um and 1389 01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:44,270 students and and everybody in Syracuse 1390 01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:56,349 alike. That concludes the design slides. 1391 01:07:56,359 --> 01:08:00,240 Is is that completes your presentation 1392 01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:01,920 there? You're an additional speaker. I 1393 01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:03,599 don't want to interrupt anyone with or 1394 01:08:03,599 --> 01:08:05,200 with our questions. I'll turn it back 1395 01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:08,160 over to you. So, but if you're finished, 1396 01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:09,839 we'll open it up to questions from the 1397 01:08:09,839 --> 01:08:14,390 commission members now. 1398 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,640 So, there's a grade on University Avenue 1399 01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:21,960 that goes uphill. from Jennese. 1400 01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:25,520 Um, this is being proposed called 13 1401 01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:30,600 stories. Is it 13 stories at all grade 1402 01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:38,799 math? Um, or are we So, we we used the zoning guidelines that talked about 1403 01:08:38,799 --> 01:08:41,040 average grade plane. So you take the 1404 01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:44,080 long elevation, divide it in half, hit 1405 01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:45,920 that spot elevation, whatever that grade 1406 01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:47,120 is there, and then that's where you 1407 01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:52,749 measure everything from. In terms of 1408 01:08:52,759 --> 01:08:54,799 stories, I would say it's fairly 1409 01:08:54,799 --> 01:08:57,440 accurate. I know the lobby level with it 1410 01:08:57,440 --> 01:08:59,839 being the same elevation across, it was 1411 01:08:59,839 --> 01:09:01,359 going to provide challenges at the 1412 01:09:01,359 --> 01:09:03,279 Harrison intersection just with people 1413 01:09:03,279 --> 01:09:05,279 being up a little higher versus maybe a 1414 01:09:05,279 --> 01:09:07,359 little lower. So I think the thought 1415 01:09:07,359 --> 01:09:09,120 would be is that we step the floor 1416 01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,120 inside. so that it follows that grade 1417 01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:12,520 change down 1418 01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:15,199 university. So the story levels would be 1419 01:09:15,199 --> 01:09:17,440 equal. It would just be that that lowest 1420 01:09:17,440 --> 01:09:19,199 level along university that would be 1421 01:09:19,199 --> 01:09:21,359 stepped that will go down up and down. 1422 01:09:21,359 --> 01:09:23,279 Exactly. 1423 01:09:23,279 --> 01:09:28,080 Okay. Okay. Yeah. Go ahead, Joe. Can or 1424 01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:30,120 maybe this is better for Joe. Can you 1425 01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:39,590 identify what's the nearest 13 story? 1426 01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:41,920 I think the Sheridan was 10 if I 1427 01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:59,910 remember right. 1428 01:09:59,920 --> 01:10:01,760 So that Oh, that was the biggest one, 1429 01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,880 right? So that's 12 1430 01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:14,950 Okay. Okay. Right. 1431 01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:16,960 Which again is because of parade going 1432 01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:20,400 to present as a much higher 1433 01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:23,040 uh yeah uh I I can also add one point to 1434 01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:26,560 that. So um I know based on that there's 1435 01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:29,120 um historic resource assessment report 1436 01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:31,360 prepared by the king and king architect. 1437 01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:35,600 I noticed that um you designed the 1438 01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:38,320 parking garage like you have the parking 1439 01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:40,560 garage and the restaurant sections as a 1440 01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:47,149 like stepping down designs to uh to 1441 01:10:47,159 --> 01:10:51,520 accommod uh Skyler in the back and also 1442 01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:53,199 that's why probably that's the reason 1443 01:10:53,199 --> 01:10:56,400 why you have that to preserve the view 1444 01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:58,400 plan for these hotel in the back the 1445 01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:01,120 historic uh eligible buildings in the 1446 01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:04,480 back and als Yeah. And also that's why 1447 01:11:04,480 --> 01:11:07,840 maybe you have like a certain story uh 1448 01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:13,270 hotel in the middle. 1449 01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:18,239 Good for him. Thank you. 1450 01:11:18,239 --> 01:11:20,960 So tonight we're we're just doing uh the 1451 01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:23,440 seeker review. So I'm just wondering I 1452 01:11:23,440 --> 01:11:24,640 mean is there a reason why we're just 1453 01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:26,159 doing secret review tonight? We still I 1454 01:11:26,159 --> 01:11:27,760 I'm guessing you still have details that 1455 01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:28,880 you're trying to work out before you do 1456 01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:41,950 the full plan review. 1457 01:11:41,960 --> 01:12:03,750 Interesting. Great. 1458 01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:05,440 Fine. Just wanted to clarify that and I 1459 01:12:05,440 --> 01:12:08,159 know given the comment uh by the Andog 1460 01:12:08,159 --> 01:12:09,280 County Planning Board and the 1461 01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,920 unfortunate article in post standard 1462 01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:13,920 today about that, but you have addressed 1463 01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:17,360 all the the issues and uh it does go 1464 01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,760 through department review. So that just 1465 01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:21,600 for people in the audience and who may 1466 01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:25,280 be watching online that the uh process 1467 01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:27,199 does include all of the departments 1468 01:12:27,199 --> 01:12:28,960 weighing on which is essentially what 1469 01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:30,640 the county planning department said 1470 01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:32,159 should happen. So that does in fact 1471 01:12:32,159 --> 01:12:33,440 happen and is happening with this 1472 01:12:33,440 --> 01:12:53,590 process. 1473 01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,320 Thank you. Yeah. And also I can add on 1474 01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:59,199 that. So uh this project will have a 1475 01:12:59,199 --> 01:13:01,520 pre-development meeting on this Thursday 1476 01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:04,400 with all city departments. So it's just 1477 01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:07,920 like the uh common projects in the city. 1478 01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:10,159 They will have um all the departments to 1479 01:13:10,159 --> 01:13:12,800 review it, send the comments to them and 1480 01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:14,239 making sure there are compliance with 1481 01:13:14,239 --> 01:13:18,480 the city code. Thank you. 1482 01:13:18,480 --> 01:13:20,000 Who wants to talk about the traffic 1483 01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:25,310 study? 1484 01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:29,280 Great. Um, I know that you did one. 1485 01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:33,520 I'm not either, so that's okay. Um, do 1486 01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:36,480 you have any comments on what the 1487 01:13:36,480 --> 01:13:40,159 expectation is in terms of, if any, 1488 01:13:40,159 --> 01:13:44,159 additional stress on the traffic side? 1489 01:13:44,159 --> 01:13:46,960 We we hired a traffic engineer, Paso 1490 01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,520 Associates. That documentation was 1491 01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:52,320 submitted with our original application. 1492 01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:55,600 Um they came out, they did a study, they 1493 01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:58,480 examined how things work today, how much 1494 01:13:58,480 --> 01:14:00,560 traffic was generated today from the 1495 01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,920 parking lots. Um then and they looked at 1496 01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:06,960 that at peak hour. Then they did what 1497 01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:09,520 you normally would do with an analysis. 1498 01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:11,440 Went to the I Institute of Traffic 1499 01:14:11,440 --> 01:14:13,520 Engineers. what do you expect to be 1500 01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,840 generated from a full service hotel, 1501 01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:17,920 which is what we're going to have, which 1502 01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:19,920 doesn't typically operate at peak hour. 1503 01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:21,360 You know, their peak hours will be 1504 01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:25,360 different. And and um what she concluded 1505 01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:29,600 was that there would be no more than 66 1506 01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:32,000 vehicle trips during the peak either 1507 01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:35,840 peak hour, morning or afternoon. Um and 1508 01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:39,440 that applying general traffic analysis 1509 01:14:39,440 --> 01:14:41,600 criteria which is what the state and the 1510 01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,239 city and the county all use since there 1511 01:14:44,239 --> 01:14:46,760 would be less than 100 vehicle trips 1512 01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:50,080 generated at the nearest intersection 1513 01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:53,040 that you there won't be it's just 1514 01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:54,560 industry standard that's not a 1515 01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:56,159 significant impact. You don't need to go 1516 01:14:56,159 --> 01:14:59,199 into any more detailed analysis which 1517 01:14:59,199 --> 01:15:01,520 she referred to as a traffic impact. 1518 01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:11,189 Right. Okay. Thank you. 1519 01:15:11,199 --> 01:15:13,840 very much. Are there 1520 01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:15,760 individuals who would like to speak in 1521 01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:20,400 favor of either of these applications? 1522 01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:21,960 Just as to the 1523 01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:27,960 seeker, I wanted to point out that um um 1524 01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:30,560 this action that you're taking tonight, 1525 01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:32,080 the vote you're taking tonight is for 1526 01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:35,199 seeker only. And so as you well know, 1527 01:15:35,199 --> 01:15:36,480 but I want to make sure it's on the 1528 01:15:36,480 --> 01:15:40,000 record that the vote is does not conote 1529 01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,640 approval of the substantive act 1530 01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:46,880 applications in any way. So people also 1531 01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:48,400 can comment on the substantive 1532 01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:50,480 application, but I presume we'll leave 1533 01:15:50,480 --> 01:15:54,400 the hearing open so that um further 1534 01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,239 comments can be made at the time that 1535 01:15:56,239 --> 01:15:59,679 the council takes up the substantive um 1536 01:15:59,679 --> 01:16:03,760 application. Yes. Agreed. 1537 01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:07,120 Uh, sir, you wish to speak? Good 1538 01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:09,280 evening. My name is Troy Wner. I'm the 1539 01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:11,159 director of the Anadoga County Planning 1540 01:16:11,159 --> 01:16:14,400 Department. Um, 335 Montgomery Street. 1541 01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:15,760 I, you know, I felt the need to come 1542 01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:17,040 today in part because I read the same 1543 01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:18,480 article everybody else did in 1544 01:16:18,480 --> 01:16:20,400 Syracuse.com and I think it needs a 1545 01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:23,280 little bit of context. Thank you. 1546 01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:27,280 Because, you know, this came before the the planning board, which I'm a 1547 01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:30,560 staff member, and you know, it's we 1548 01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:32,239 provide comment. We provide comment on 1549 01:16:32,239 --> 01:16:34,239 every single pro referral that comes 1550 01:16:34,239 --> 01:16:35,760 before us. And oftentimes, not to 1551 01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:37,679 downplay the comments, but there's 1552 01:16:37,679 --> 01:16:40,000 certainly a a context to those comments 1553 01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:41,760 that if the reporter writing it didn't 1554 01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:43,199 understand our process, he wouldn't 1555 01:16:43,199 --> 01:16:45,040 necessarily under the understand the 1556 01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:47,360 context in which we make those comments. 1557 01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:49,520 in some cases are almost 1558 01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:51,760 boilerplate comments. We ask we tell 1559 01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:53,760 every almost every single referral that 1560 01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:55,760 comes before us that they have to go to 1561 01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:59,040 weapon do sewer uh flow and capacity 1562 01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:01,120 asurances to to make sure that the 1563 01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:03,120 system can handle it. We tell almost 1564 01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:04,960 every referral that comes before us to 1565 01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:07,760 look at transportation options, parking 1566 01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:09,840 options and similar matters which are 1567 01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:11,440 just part of the natural planning 1568 01:17:11,440 --> 01:17:13,520 process that any project really 1569 01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:15,280 undertakes. I mean, Syracuse University 1570 01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:17,760 is certainly well ahead of the game in 1571 01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:19,520 many ways in terms of providing the 1572 01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:21,120 planning that's needed for this hotel, 1573 01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:22,400 looking at the traffic, looking at the 1574 01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:24,159 sewer control, looking at the sewer 1575 01:17:24,159 --> 01:17:25,920 flow, all that. That's really what those 1576 01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:27,840 comments are there for. We put them in 1577 01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:29,040 everything. So, they're a little bit of 1578 01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:30,719 boilerplate and I think they got taken a 1579 01:17:30,719 --> 01:17:32,320 little bit out of context in terms of 1580 01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:34,880 our process and how we handle it. I just 1581 01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:36,400 wanted to clear that up to a certain 1582 01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:38,080 extent. The other part of this I would 1583 01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:40,320 say is I mean the the planning the 1584 01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:42,080 county planning department I would dare 1585 01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:43,840 say the county executive fully supports 1586 01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:46,080 this this this hotel project. It is a 1587 01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:47,920 needed project in the city. You know 1588 01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:49,600 we've lost some hotel rooms over the 1589 01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:54,400 last couple of years. This will replace some of those hotel rooms. And 1590 01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:56,159 as the community grows and it's growing 1591 01:17:56,159 --> 01:17:58,000 as we continue to grow and Micron comes 1592 01:17:58,000 --> 01:17:59,360 in, we're going to need more and more of 1593 01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:01,520 these hotel rooms to make up for it. And 1594 01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:02,960 yeah, I think you know, the county has 1595 01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:04,960 certainly invested the time and money 1596 01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:08,239 into into putting money investment forth 1597 01:18:08,239 --> 01:18:10,320 into these hotels. This is a great 1598 01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:11,679 example of the dividends and it's a 1599 01:18:11,679 --> 01:18:13,360 great example of Syracuse University 1600 01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:15,679 having the foresight to give us more 1601 01:18:15,679 --> 01:18:18,159 hotel rooms, more hotel options. You 1602 01:18:18,159 --> 01:18:20,239 know, 200 rooms on University Hill with 1603 01:18:20,239 --> 01:18:22,080 dining and event space is just what we 1604 01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:23,600 need in this county. And like I said, I 1605 01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:25,520 came here really to clear up some of the 1606 01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:26,880 context in which we provide those 1607 01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:28,480 comments as well as just to express our 1608 01:18:28,480 --> 01:18:30,719 support for the project. Thank you. 1609 01:18:30,719 --> 01:18:31,880 very 1610 01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:34,880 much. Are there other individuals who 1611 01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:36,560 wish to speak in favor? Please come 1612 01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:46,630 forward. 1613 01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:50,239 Rex Jardine, 112 Circle Road. Thank you 1614 01:18:50,239 --> 01:18:52,719 for the opportunity to provide input. As 1615 01:18:52,719 --> 01:18:55,320 an architect and resident of zip code 1616 01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:58,320 13210, more specifically University Hill 1617 01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,239 since moving here, I'd like to provide 1618 01:19:00,239 --> 01:19:02,640 some comments of support. The 1619 01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:04,880 prominently located Sherin from my 1620 01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:07,360 recollection was opened in early 1986 1621 01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:10,239 and is nearing 40 years old. As I knew 1622 01:19:10,239 --> 01:19:12,080 and actually worked for the designer, 1623 01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:15,360 investor, developer, I can guarantee it 1624 01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:16,960 was done on a cheap and shoestring 1625 01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:19,920 budget. I reviewed the application and 1626 01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:21,440 find the sighting and massing of the 1627 01:19:21,440 --> 01:19:24,800 proposed 13story 200 bed hotel far more 1628 01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:27,280 responsible use of the open land and the 1629 01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:29,760 existing surface parking lots. The 1630 01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:31,360 state-of-the-art hotel and meeting 1631 01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:33,679 complex is overdue and welcome 1632 01:19:33,679 --> 01:19:35,600 intervention. The hotel appears to be 1633 01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:37,679 well positioned in what will be a more 1634 01:19:37,679 --> 01:19:40,080 walkable core area for out of town 1635 01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,320 visitors whether here for events, 1636 01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:45,280 commencements, faculty job interviews 1637 01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,760 for Syracuse University, Sunni SF or 1638 01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:50,480 Upstate Medical University. Equally 1639 01:19:50,480 --> 01:19:52,400 important to have a walkable place for 1640 01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:54,400 family and visitors of patients at any 1641 01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:56,320 one of the three fine hospitals that 1642 01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:58,800 share our zip code. I like to see this 1643 01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:00,400 sort of bold investment and hope the 1644 01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:03,520 city itself somehow finds ways to 1645 01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:06,080 complement the investments of others 1646 01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:07,920 with similarly bold and visionary 1647 01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:10,120 municipal projects that actually attract 1648 01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:13,840 long-term and invested residents. Sadly, 1649 01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:15,920 other than some sidewalks and curbs, the 1650 01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:18,000 only tangible city investment I've seen 1651 01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:24,189 was now 10 years ago in a mere 1652 01:20:24,199 --> 01:20:28,080 689,74143, the pitiful 3% local share of 1653 01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:30,320 the half renovation of my children's 1654 01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:34,520 elementary school, the now 107year-old 1655 01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:38,400 woodframed prek grade school at the 1656 01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:40,960 center of zip code 13210 in the shadow 1657 01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:43,320 of three fine colleges and three fine 1658 01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:46,239 hospitals. Maybe if the 53rd mayor had 1659 01:20:46,239 --> 01:20:47,760 children in the schools, things would 1660 01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,000 have been different. Imagine after 1661 01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,320 seeing developers and institution com 1662 01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:55,040 institutions commit billions, how 1663 01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:56,800 exciting it would be to be at a planning 1664 01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:58,800 commission meeting where some of that 1665 01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:01,280 tax or deferred tax revenue from over 1666 01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:04,239 10,000 beds was being invested in a 1667 01:21:04,239 --> 01:21:06,320 state-of-the-art elementary school 1668 01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,960 proposed by this city. A school so 1669 01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:11,840 fabulous Fagatville would be jealous. To 1670 01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:13,760 close, I fully support what Syracuse 1671 01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:16,480 University has proposed. Thank you. 1672 01:21:16,480 --> 01:21:17,560 Thank 1673 01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:20,000 you. Are there other individuals who 1674 01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:21,440 wish to speak in favor of this 1675 01:21:21,440 --> 01:21:26,990 application? If so, please come to the 1676 01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,440 podium. Is there anyone wishing to speak 1677 01:21:29,440 --> 01:21:31,360 in opposition to the application? Please 1678 01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:35,229 come 1679 01:21:35,239 --> 01:21:38,000 forward. I don't see anyone else rising 1680 01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:42,320 to speak. Another question please. Joe, 1681 01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:45,600 can you just confirm um for the seeker 1682 01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:49,120 the number of parking spaces 1683 01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:56,709 for somebody? 1684 01:21:56,719 --> 01:21:58,719 Three to four floors on the garage. Did 1685 01:21:58,719 --> 01:22:03,790 I read that 1686 01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:10,310 right? Thanks. 1687 01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:11,600 I'd just like to express my appreciation 1688 01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:13,280 for the comments from the planning board 1689 01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:15,040 clarifying the situation because we 1690 01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:16,239 wouldn't have had to discuss it if it 1691 01:22:16,239 --> 01:22:17,679 hadn't been the unfortunate out of 1692 01:22:17,679 --> 01:22:21,229 context article 1693 01:22:21,239 --> 01:22:23,679 that so we'll leave public comment open 1694 01:22:23,679 --> 01:22:26,800 for the reason noted earlier and we will 1695 01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:28,480 turn our attention to our seeker review 1696 01:22:28,480 --> 01:22:47,030 first with the reubdivision. 1697 01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:49,520 Yes. So the secret review is actually 1698 01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:51,920 cover both the resubdivision and the 1699 01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:55,440 project plan review. Um yeah so the full 1700 01:22:55,440 --> 01:22:58,080 environmental assessment form part two 1701 01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:00,360 on the page two 1702 01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:03,120 267 has been prefilled with suggestions 1703 01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:05,280 from the staff. I'm going to go through 1704 01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:07,280 the part two of the EF to see if you 1705 01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:09,199 agree with these suggestions. 1706 01:23:09,199 --> 01:23:11,120 Additionally, here is a proposed 1707 01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:13,159 attachment for the part three 1708 01:23:13,159 --> 01:23:16,080 determination of significance 1709 01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:18,159 um and a draft resolution provided by 1710 01:23:18,159 --> 01:23:19,920 the staff that you could use if you 1711 01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:22,719 decide to act on secret tonight. Part 1712 01:23:22,719 --> 01:23:25,159 two of the FEAF is a issue spotting 1713 01:23:25,159 --> 01:23:27,920 exercise where the board will discuss if 1714 01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:29,840 there are any potential impacts that 1715 01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:32,320 need to be analyzed in more detail in 1716 01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:33,880 part three of the 1717 01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:37,360 FEAF. So the first question involves the 1718 01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:40,400 impacts to land because this is a 1719 01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:42,480 project that does involve construction 1720 01:23:42,480 --> 01:23:45,199 and physical alteration of the land. We 1721 01:23:45,199 --> 01:23:47,440 recommend that the board answer this 1722 01:23:47,440 --> 01:23:51,120 question yes. Does the board agree? Yes. 1723 01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:53,600 The sub question A through G are seeking 1724 01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:55,840 about the depths to water tables, slope 1725 01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:58,560 of the site, exposed bar rocks, 1726 01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:01,199 excavation and removal of natural 1727 01:24:01,199 --> 01:24:03,920 materials, potential erosions, duration 1728 01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:06,320 of the construction and if the action is 1729 01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:10,639 in a coastal erosion hazard area. Based 1730 01:24:10,639 --> 01:24:12,800 on the information provided in part one 1731 01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:16,040 of the FEAF, the response letter and the 1732 01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:18,560 supplementary materials, the action 1733 01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:20,880 would not involve construction on land 1734 01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:24,239 with shallow water table, exposed or 1735 01:24:24,239 --> 01:24:28,480 shallow bars, steep slopes or within a 1736 01:24:28,480 --> 01:24:31,679 coastal erosion hazard area. and action 1737 01:24:31,679 --> 01:24:36,000 will involve development of a sweep and 1738 01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,400 um installation of an underground storm 1739 01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:40,400 water detention system to control the 1740 01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:43,440 on-site runoffs. Therefore, I recommend 1741 01:24:43,440 --> 01:24:45,920 you check no or small impact for the 1742 01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:50,159 subs question A, B, C, F, and G. Does 1743 01:24:50,159 --> 01:24:53,360 the board agree? Yes. 1744 01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:55,280 And then it comes to the subs question 1745 01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:58,159 D. This question indicates that the 1746 01:24:58,159 --> 01:25:00,239 project will involve the excavation and 1747 01:25:00,239 --> 01:25:02,960 removal of more than 1,000 tons of 1748 01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,520 natural material. This sub question 1749 01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:07,520 triggers concern about the potential 1750 01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:10,719 erosions, unstable land and disposal of 1751 01:25:10,719 --> 01:25:13,440 materials. For the response provided by 1752 01:25:13,440 --> 01:25:16,199 the applicant, the excavation will be 1753 01:25:16,199 --> 01:25:19,120 accomplished by standard mechanical 1754 01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:22,440 equipment in only one phase will not be 1755 01:25:22,440 --> 01:25:25,600 multifaces and will not involve blasting 1756 01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:29,120 or driving uh piles. The applicant will 1757 01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:32,080 use sheet piling and shoring to stab 1758 01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:34,639 stabilize the site and to mitigate 1759 01:25:34,639 --> 01:25:36,960 potential soil erosion caused by the 1760 01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:39,840 material removal. In addition, all the 1761 01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:42,080 excav exc es excavated soils will be 1762 01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:44,560 disposed offsite at the Hansen 1763 01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:47,239 Jamesville coral 1764 01:25:47,239 --> 01:25:49,440 facility. Therefore, I recommend you 1765 01:25:49,440 --> 01:25:51,520 check no or small impact for the sub 1766 01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:55,199 question D. Does the board agree? Yes. 1767 01:25:55,199 --> 01:25:57,199 Sub question E indicates that the 1768 01:25:57,199 --> 01:25:59,760 project is is expected to last for 1769 01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:02,280 approximately uh 24 1770 01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:06,080 months. Excuse me. 1771 01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:07,920 The long-term construction triggers 1772 01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:10,400 concern on the noise and dust impact on 1773 01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:12,880 nearby properties. Per the response 1774 01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:15,920 letter, all contractors will be obl 1775 01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:18,400 obligated to comply with the city of 1776 01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:21,600 Syracuse noise ordinance to mitigate the 1777 01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:24,800 noise impact. An applicant will apply 1778 01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:27,600 standard dust management practices such 1779 01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:30,239 as watering watering down the site, 1780 01:26:30,239 --> 01:26:32,800 stabilize stone construction entrance 1781 01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:34,960 and stone drive lanes around the 1782 01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:37,600 building to mitigate dust impact. 1783 01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:39,840 Therefore, I recommend you check no or 1784 01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:42,320 small impact for the sub question E. 1785 01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:45,920 Does the board agree? Yes. The second 1786 01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:47,920 question involves the impact on the 1787 01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:51,040 geological features. There are no unique 1788 01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:53,199 geological features within or near the 1789 01:26:53,199 --> 01:26:55,600 project site. Therefore, we we recommend 1790 01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:58,080 the board answer this question. No. Does 1791 01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:01,679 the board agree? Yes. The third question 1792 01:27:01,679 --> 01:27:04,760 involves the impact on the sub surface 1793 01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:08,080 waters. There are no water bodies close 1794 01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:10,400 to the project site and the project will 1795 01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:12,400 not withdraw water from nearby 1796 01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:15,360 subsurface water bodies. Rather, the 1797 01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:17,920 project will utilize and enhance the 1798 01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:20,080 existing water utility connections that 1799 01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:22,639 connect to the city water. Therefore, we 1800 01:27:22,639 --> 01:27:24,480 recommend that the board answer no to 1801 01:27:24,480 --> 01:27:26,159 this question. Does the board agree? 1802 01:27:26,159 --> 01:27:29,360 Yes. Yes. The fourth question following 1803 01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:32,199 u the fourth question involves impact on 1804 01:27:32,199 --> 01:27:34,320 groundwater. This project will be 1805 01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:36,480 connected to the existing city water and 1806 01:27:36,480 --> 01:27:39,840 sewer services. Also, it is it is not 1807 01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:42,480 located above any aquifers that are used 1808 01:27:42,480 --> 01:27:45,320 for drinking water and the usage of 1809 01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:47,920 pesticides will follow the integrated 1810 01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:51,040 pest management practices to minimize 1811 01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:53,199 the reliance on the chemical pesticides 1812 01:27:53,199 --> 01:27:56,080 and to mitigate the potential harm to 1813 01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:59,040 the humans the and environment. 1814 01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,120 Therefore, we we recommend that the 1815 01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:03,120 board answer no to this question. Does 1816 01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:05,760 the board agree? Yes. 1817 01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:07,679 The fifth question involves the impact 1818 01:28:07,679 --> 01:28:11,040 to flooding. The project is not located 1819 01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:14,480 on a designated floodway, floodway or 1820 01:28:14,480 --> 01:28:18,639 100year or 500year flood plane while a 1821 01:28:18,639 --> 01:28:21,040 um sweep contains construction of a 1822 01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:22,800 on-site underground storm water 1823 01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:25,679 detention system uh which also requires 1824 01:28:25,679 --> 01:28:28,880 the compliance to an approval from the 1825 01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:32,320 New York State DEC standards. this um 1826 01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:34,719 detention system will be provided prior 1827 01:28:34,719 --> 01:28:37,440 to building and site permit approval. 1828 01:28:37,440 --> 01:28:39,280 Therefore, we recommend the board answer 1829 01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:41,520 this question. No. Does the board agree? 1830 01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:43,520 Yes. 1831 01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:46,080 The sixth question involves impact on 1832 01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:48,480 air. This project does not require 1833 01:28:48,480 --> 01:28:51,440 federal or state air emission permits 1834 01:28:51,440 --> 01:28:53,560 and does not include air emission 1835 01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:55,840 sources. Therefore, we recommend that 1836 01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:57,679 the board answer no to this question. 1837 01:28:57,679 --> 01:29:01,199 Does the board agree? Yes. 1838 01:29:01,199 --> 01:29:03,440 The seventh question involves impact on 1839 01:29:03,440 --> 01:29:06,639 plants and uh animals. The property is a 1840 01:29:06,639 --> 01:29:09,440 developed lot and has been used as 1841 01:29:09,440 --> 01:29:12,080 surface parking lots for decades. Per 1842 01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:16,080 FEF part one, the property is uh not 1843 01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:18,719 situated in any habitat that contains 1844 01:29:18,719 --> 01:29:21,360 the threatened or endangered species as 1845 01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:23,199 listed by the New York State or the 1846 01:29:23,199 --> 01:29:25,520 federal government based on the New York 1847 01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:28,560 State DEEC database. There are no 1848 01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:31,600 registered national uh national natural 1849 01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:33,920 landmarks on the property and action 1850 01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:36,480 will not require conversion of more than 1851 01:29:36,480 --> 01:29:39,440 10 acres of the forest, grassland or any 1852 01:29:39,440 --> 01:29:42,199 other regionally or locally important 1853 01:29:42,199 --> 01:29:44,960 habitat. Therefore, we we recommend that 1854 01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:47,360 the board answer uh this question no. 1855 01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:50,639 Does the board agree? Yes. 1856 01:29:50,639 --> 01:29:52,320 The following question involves the 1857 01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:55,840 impact on uh agricultural resources. We 1858 01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:57,679 recommend that the board answer no to 1859 01:29:57,679 --> 01:29:59,679 this question because there are no 1860 01:29:59,679 --> 01:30:02,639 agricultural resources um on the project 1861 01:30:02,639 --> 01:30:06,239 area. Does the board agree? Yes. Yes. 1862 01:30:06,239 --> 01:30:08,480 The uh the next question involves the 1863 01:30:08,480 --> 01:30:11,600 impact to the estatic resources. We 1864 01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:14,080 recommend the board answer no to this 1865 01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:16,000 question because there's no estatic 1866 01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:18,639 resources recognized on or close to the 1867 01:30:18,639 --> 01:30:24,390 project site. Does the board agree? Yes. 1868 01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:26,800 The following question um involves the 1869 01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:29,280 impact um to the historic and 1870 01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:31,840 archaeological resources. The project 1871 01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:34,800 will not occur on any lands that have 1872 01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:37,360 been listed or deemed eligible for the 1873 01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:40,560 national or state register and will not 1874 01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:43,679 result in uh destruction or alteration 1875 01:30:43,679 --> 01:30:46,080 of any historic and archae 1876 01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:48,120 archaeological um 1877 01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:51,840 resources. But it the the project will 1878 01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:54,239 occur substantially contiguous to one 1879 01:30:54,239 --> 01:30:56,639 property which is eligible for listing 1880 01:30:56,639 --> 01:30:59,400 on the state register of historic 1881 01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:02,159 places. Therefore, we recommend that the 1882 01:31:02,159 --> 01:31:04,080 board answer yes to this question. Does 1883 01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:06,880 the board agree? Yes. 1884 01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:08,960 based on the information provided in the 1885 01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:12,639 part one FEAF and the response letter 1886 01:31:12,639 --> 01:31:14,520 and the 1887 01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:18,000 um the supp uh the materials like uh the 1888 01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:20,960 supple supplementary materials. action 1889 01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:25,199 will involve um constructions neither on 1890 01:31:25,199 --> 01:31:27,679 or nearby a sensitive archaeological 1891 01:31:27,679 --> 01:31:30,960 site nor on a archaeological site that 1892 01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:34,000 is not included on the New York uh ship 1893 01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:36,560 hole inventory. Therefore, I recommend 1894 01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:39,440 you check no or small impact for the sub 1895 01:31:39,440 --> 01:31:42,560 question B and C. Does the board agree? 1896 01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:43,679 Yes. 1897 01:31:43,679 --> 01:31:46,239 Um the sub question A indicates that the 1898 01:31:46,239 --> 01:31:48,639 project will occur substantially 1899 01:31:48,639 --> 01:31:51,280 contiguous to the hotel Skyler located 1900 01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:53,800 at 60 uh 1901 01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:57,080 601-15 Krauss Avenue South and Harrison 1902 01:31:57,080 --> 01:32:00,320 Street. Per the response and the 1903 01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:03,880 historic uh historic resources 1904 01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:06,239 assessment prepared by the King and King 1905 01:32:06,239 --> 01:32:08,480 architect. The hotel building is 1906 01:32:08,480 --> 01:32:10,719 designed in a way to match the heights 1907 01:32:10,719 --> 01:32:12,920 and characteristics of the surrounding 1908 01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:15,280 properties. The three-story parking 1909 01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:17,840 garage and twotory conference center 1910 01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:20,719 section will be in a step- down design 1911 01:32:20,719 --> 01:32:22,880 considering the story of the adjacent 1912 01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:26,080 hotel Skylar and the Skylar Commons. The 1913 01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:27,719 hotel building will follow a 1914 01:32:27,719 --> 01:32:31,040 classicbased middle top massing and the 1915 01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:34,000 ar um architectural design at street 1916 01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:35,760 level will be consistent with the 1917 01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:39,560 neighboring buildings. Also besides the 1918 01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:42,400 assessment report by Kenyan King 1919 01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:44,800 architect exams the historic properties 1920 01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:47,199 in the surrounding neighborhood and 1921 01:32:47,199 --> 01:32:48,639 points out that the surrounding 1922 01:32:48,639 --> 01:32:51,679 neighborhood is a mix of numerous styles 1923 01:32:51,679 --> 01:32:54,239 ranging from the neocclassical to the 1924 01:32:54,239 --> 01:32:58,000 contemporary styles and does not present 1925 01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:01,840 a co coherent or integrated historic 1926 01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:05,159 scene. It concludes that the location, 1927 01:33:05,159 --> 01:33:11,120 materials, scale and overall aesthetic of the hotels fits well with 1928 01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:13,920 many of the adjacent properties. Also, 1929 01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:16,719 in addition by imple implementing the 1930 01:33:16,719 --> 01:33:20,120 sweep dust and um noise control 1931 01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:22,960 practice, the sheep piling and shoring 1932 01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:26,320 during the excavation and um uh the 1933 01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:28,080 construction impact on the surrounding 1934 01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:30,560 historic properties and district will be 1935 01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:32,880 further mitigated. Therefore, I 1936 01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:34,800 recommend the board answer no or small 1937 01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:36,880 impact for the sub question A. Does the 1938 01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:40,480 board agree? Yes. The 11th question 1939 01:33:40,480 --> 01:33:42,679 involves the impact on open space and 1940 01:33:42,679 --> 01:33:45,840 recreation. There are no designated open 1941 01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:48,480 spaces or recreational resources that 1942 01:33:48,480 --> 01:33:50,719 will be affected by this project. 1943 01:33:50,719 --> 01:33:52,480 Therefore, we recommend that the board 1944 01:33:52,480 --> 01:33:54,639 answer this question no. Does the board 1945 01:33:54,639 --> 01:33:58,000 agree? Yes. The 12th question involves 1946 01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:00,480 the impact to critical environmental 1947 01:34:00,480 --> 01:34:02,800 areas. We recommend that the board 1948 01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:05,040 answer no to this question because this 1949 01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:07,679 project site does not contain or is 1950 01:34:07,679 --> 01:34:10,159 adjacent to a critical environmental 1951 01:34:10,159 --> 01:34:13,520 area. Does the board agree? Yes. Yes. 1952 01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:15,760 The 13 question involves the impact on 1953 01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:18,159 the transportation. The project will not 1954 01:34:18,159 --> 01:34:20,560 result in a significant adverse impact 1955 01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:23,120 on the existing transportation system or 1956 01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:25,760 traffic patterns. The proposed parking 1957 01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:28,719 garage of the hotel will contain 100 1958 01:34:28,719 --> 01:34:32,080 about 100 parking spaces representing a 1959 01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:33,960 reduction from the 1960 01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:37,440 existing 124 spaces currently provided 1961 01:34:37,440 --> 01:34:40,719 by the existing surface parking lots. 1962 01:34:40,719 --> 01:34:42,960 Per the trip generation and distribution 1963 01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:46,280 assessment prepared by the um traffic 1964 01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:49,440 engineering. It uh concludes that the 1965 01:34:49,440 --> 01:34:52,320 project will not result in significant 1966 01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:54,600 adverse impact on the local traffic 1967 01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:57,760 operations and the roadway capacity of 1968 01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:00,480 the both Harrison Street and University 1969 01:35:00,480 --> 01:35:03,600 Avenue is sufficient to accommodate the 1970 01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:06,120 anticipated traffic generated by the 1971 01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:08,880 projects. The project will not degrade 1972 01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:12,239 existing the transit access and existing 1973 01:35:12,239 --> 01:35:15,040 um pedestrian or bicycle accommodations. 1974 01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:17,760 Therefore, we we recommend that this 1975 01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:19,760 question be answered no. Does the board 1976 01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:23,360 agree? Yes. The 14th question involves 1977 01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:26,239 the impact on the energy. The project 1978 01:35:26,239 --> 01:35:28,239 will cause an increase in the use of 1979 01:35:28,239 --> 01:35:30,800 energy. Therefore, we recommend that the 1980 01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:32,880 board answer yes to this question. Does 1981 01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:35,760 the board agree? Yes. Based on the 1982 01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:38,000 information provided in the part one 1983 01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:41,280 FEAF and the response letter and all 1984 01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:43,760 these materials, the project will not 1985 01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:48,080 require a new or an upgrade to a um 1986 01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:52,320 existing substation or create or 1987 01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:55,280 extension of any energy transmission or 1988 01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:58,239 supply system to serve more than 50 1989 01:35:58,239 --> 01:36:01,280 single or two family residents or to 1990 01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:04,159 serve a commercial industrial use. Uh 1991 01:36:04,159 --> 01:36:06,320 use Therefore, we recommend the board 1992 01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:08,960 checks no or small impact may occur for 1993 01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:11,280 the sub question A and B. Does the board 1994 01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:14,639 agree? Yes. Sub question C indicates 1995 01:36:14,639 --> 01:36:17,199 that the project will will utilize more 1996 01:36:17,199 --> 01:36:18,440 than 1997 01:36:18,440 --> 01:36:22,520 2500 megawatt hours per year of the 1998 01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:25,280 electricity. Per the will serve letter 1999 01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:27,679 the existing electricity infrastructure 2000 01:36:27,679 --> 01:36:30,560 has sufficient capacity to accommodate 2001 01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:33,520 the increased demand by the projects. In 2002 01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:35,600 addition, the project will use the LED 2003 01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:37,960 lighting to reduce the electricity 2004 01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:40,480 demand. Therefore, we recommend that the 2005 01:36:40,480 --> 01:36:43,120 board check no or small impact may occur 2006 01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:46,080 for the sub question C. Does the board 2007 01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:49,840 agree? Yes. Um, the sub question D 2008 01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:51,840 indicates that the project will involve 2009 01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:55,760 heating or cooling of more than 100,000 2010 01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:58,800 square feet of the building area. Per 2011 01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:00,880 the response letter, the project will 2012 01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:03,480 use modern energy efficiency design and 2013 01:37:03,480 --> 01:37:07,080 equipment, including a uh energy 2014 01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:10,400 recovery ventilator type air handling 2015 01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:12,719 units which can recover energy between 2016 01:37:12,719 --> 01:37:15,440 the supply and exhaust air streams to 2017 01:37:15,440 --> 01:37:18,159 the air handling unit to in order to 2018 01:37:18,159 --> 01:37:20,560 reduce the heating and cooling loads. 2019 01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:22,320 Therefore, we recommend that the board 2020 01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:25,040 check no or small impact may occur for 2021 01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:26,960 the sub question D. Does the board 2022 01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:31,119 agree? Yes. Yes, the 15th questions uh 2023 01:37:31,119 --> 01:37:34,239 involves the impacts to the noise order 2024 01:37:34,239 --> 01:37:36,560 and the light. We recommend that the 2025 01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:38,080 board answer yes to this question 2026 01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:40,480 because the project will result in an 2027 01:37:40,480 --> 01:37:43,040 increase in noise and outdoor outdoor 2028 01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:46,400 lighting. Does the board agree? Yes. 2029 01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:49,520 Based on the information um provided um 2030 01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:52,199 the project will not involve blasting 2031 01:37:52,199 --> 01:37:55,360 activity, will not result in routine o 2032 01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:57,760 orders for more than one hour per day, 2033 01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:00,800 will not result in light shining onto a 2034 01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:03,440 drawing properties or creating like sky 2035 01:38:03,440 --> 01:38:06,119 glow brighter than existing aerial 2036 01:38:06,119 --> 01:38:08,719 conditions. Therefore, we recommend that 2037 01:38:08,719 --> 01:38:11,280 board check no or small impact may occur 2038 01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:13,840 for the sub question B through E. Does 2039 01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:17,440 the board agree? Yes. Yes, 2040 01:38:17,440 --> 01:38:19,600 the sub question A indicates that the 2041 01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:22,320 project will produce sound above noise 2042 01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:25,480 levels estim established by the local 2043 01:38:25,480 --> 01:38:28,000 regulations. Per the response letter, 2044 01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:30,480 all contractor will be obligated to 2045 01:38:30,480 --> 01:38:32,639 comply with the city of Syracuse noise 2046 01:38:32,639 --> 01:38:35,520 ordinance to mitigate noise impact. 2047 01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:37,360 Therefore, we recommend the board check 2048 01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:39,679 no or small impact may occur for the sub 2049 01:38:39,679 --> 01:38:43,600 question A. Does the board agree? Yes. 2050 01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:45,360 The following question involves the 2051 01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:48,639 impact on human health. The project site 2052 01:38:48,639 --> 01:38:50,239 does not have any history of 2053 01:38:50,239 --> 01:38:53,119 contamination or spills and is not in a 2054 01:38:53,119 --> 01:38:56,239 environmental site remediation database. 2055 01:38:56,239 --> 01:38:57,920 Additionally, the project will not 2056 01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:00,400 involve construction or modification of 2057 01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:04,080 a solid waste management facility and 2058 01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:06,080 the solid waste generated during the 2059 01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:08,400 construction will be removed and 2060 01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:12,000 disposed um in compliance with all 2061 01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:14,840 state, federal or local laws and 2062 01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:18,000 regulations. Thus, we recommend the 2063 01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:19,760 board answer no to this question. Does 2064 01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:23,679 the board agree? Yes. 2065 01:39:23,679 --> 01:39:26,320 The 17th question involves uh 2066 01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:29,280 consistency with community plans. We 2067 01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:30,960 recommend that the board answer no to 2068 01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:33,440 this question because the action is in 2069 01:39:33,440 --> 01:39:35,600 is consistent with the development 2070 01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:38,239 standards of the planned institutional 2071 01:39:38,239 --> 01:39:41,480 district of the zoning code and the 2072 01:39:41,480 --> 01:39:44,080 adopted district plan of the Syracuse 2073 01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:48,000 University subd district number 12. The 2074 01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:49,920 surrounding properties are occupied by 2075 01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:52,320 the institutional uses, hotel and 2076 01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:56,159 student housings. The proposed um the 2077 01:39:56,159 --> 01:39:59,000 proposed hotel building are not in sharp 2078 01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:01,840 contract contrast to surrounding land 2079 01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:04,760 use patterns. Does the board agree? 2080 01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:07,520 Yes. The uh the last question involves 2081 01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:10,119 the consistency with the community 2082 01:40:10,119 --> 01:40:12,960 character. The project will not replace 2083 01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:15,159 or eliminating existing facility 2084 01:40:15,159 --> 01:40:17,920 structures or areas of historic 2085 01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:20,639 importance to the community, will not 2086 01:40:20,639 --> 01:40:23,040 create a demand for additional community 2087 01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:26,000 service services and will not interfere 2088 01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:28,880 with the use of enjoyment of officially 2089 01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:31,400 recognized or designated public 2090 01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:34,880 resources and um is designed to be 2091 01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:36,480 consistent with the predominant 2092 01:40:36,480 --> 01:40:38,719 architectural scale and the character of 2093 01:40:38,719 --> 01:40:40,800 the surrounding properties. Therefore, 2094 01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:42,880 we recommend the board answer no to this 2095 01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:44,719 question. Does the board agree? Yes. 2096 01:40:44,719 --> 01:40:47,679 So, in conclusion, the commission 2097 01:40:47,679 --> 01:40:49,760 as lead agency in this coordinated 2098 01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:51,840 review under the state environmental 2099 01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:54,320 quality review act has thoroughly 2100 01:40:54,320 --> 01:40:57,040 reviewed all the relevant materials has 2101 01:40:57,040 --> 01:41:00,239 taken a hard look and analyzed all 2102 01:41:00,239 --> 01:41:02,719 aspects of the action. For all the 2103 01:41:02,719 --> 01:41:05,199 reasons set forth above, the commission 2104 01:41:05,199 --> 01:41:07,600 determines that action will not have any 2105 01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:10,199 significant adverse impacts on the 2106 01:41:10,199 --> 01:41:12,400 environment and therefore an 2107 01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:15,119 environmental impact uh statement needs 2108 01:41:15,119 --> 01:41:18,159 not to need not be prepared. 2109 01:41:18,159 --> 01:41:20,400 Accordingly, the commission issues a 2110 01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:23,280 negative declaration to be filled uh to 2111 01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:25,440 be filed sorry and notice of the 2112 01:41:25,440 --> 01:41:27,520 negative declaration will be provided 2113 01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:29,760 pursuant to all applicable laws and 2114 01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:33,350 regulations. 2115 01:41:33,360 --> 01:41:35,840 Thank you for taking us through that 2116 01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:42,109 detailed 2117 01:41:42,119 --> 01:41:45,600 review. Okay. And because we've done 2118 01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:47,960 that step by step, we don't require a 2119 01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:49,480 motion. 2120 01:41:49,480 --> 01:41:52,159 So, okay. Okay. And this will apply to 2121 01:41:52,159 --> 01:41:55,360 both the reubdivision and the associated 2122 01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:58,560 uh project plan review for the hotel 2123 01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:02,360 project that we just heard 2124 01:42:02,360 --> 01:42:05,159 about. That concludes our action on 2125 01:42:05,159 --> 01:42:38,229 these applications for this evening. 2126 01:42:38,239 --> 01:42:41,280 We normally don't take a vote once we've 2127 01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:43,360 walked through all of the part two 2128 01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:46,159 because they've already answered no. And 2129 01:42:46,159 --> 01:42:48,159 we'll have a resolution prepared 2130 01:42:48,159 --> 01:42:50,880 reflecting the board's action after this 2131 01:42:50,880 --> 01:43:00,550 for signature by Mr. 2132 01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:04,560 Um yeah, we prefer to hold this resub 2133 01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:06,560 yeah with the project plan review beyond 2134 01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:10,950 the next meeting. 2135 01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:19,510 We expect to see you back next month. 2136 01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:23,669 Yes. 2137 01:43:23,679 --> 01:43:26,320 And he will receive 2138 01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:31,030 and you'll be back 2139 01:43:31,040 --> 01:43:33,960 um soon next 2140 01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:37,840 month. Uh so I think that concludes the 2141 01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:40,239 totality of our action this evening on 2142 01:43:40,239 --> 01:43:43,119 these two projects. So we will now move 2143 01:43:43,119 --> 01:43:44,199 to the 2144 01:43:44,199 --> 01:43:49,000 next item actually related items 2145 01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:53,400 uh for action. The next three items are 2146 01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:57,320 related and the background or 2147 01:43:57,320 --> 01:43:59,600 presentation I think will cover all 2148 01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:01,520 three although we will certainly act 2149 01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:04,880 separately um on the three. 2150 01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:09,280 So the next uh items on the agenda is um 2151 01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:12,840 three zoning map amendments 2152 01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:14,840 Z-2A94 2153 01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:17,800 Z-2A96 and 2154 01:44:17,800 --> 01:44:22,000 Z-2A97. Um these projects happens at uh 2155 01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:26,239 9 uh 505 Prospect Avenue, 515 Prospect 2156 01:44:26,239 --> 01:44:30,239 Avenue and 525 Prospect Avenue. Um the 2157 01:44:30,239 --> 01:44:33,440 owner of the 505 Prospect Avenue is 526 2158 01:44:33,440 --> 01:44:37,000 North Salina Street LLC and the 2159 01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:41,199 um 526 North Salina Street LLC also owns 2160 01:44:41,199 --> 01:44:46,360 the 515 Prospect Avenue. the Syracuse 2161 01:44:46,360 --> 01:44:50,480 um flat flat uh flat taran LLC owns the 2162 01:44:50,480 --> 01:44:54,080 525 Prospect Avenue and um the city of 2163 01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:56,800 Syracuse zoning administrator are the 2164 01:44:56,800 --> 01:44:59,199 applicants for all the three zoning map 2165 01:44:59,199 --> 01:45:01,760 amendment pro uh application and 2166 01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:05,520 currently these um three properties are 2167 01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:08,320 in a pending zone district and pending 2168 01:45:08,320 --> 01:45:13,590 for assignment of the zone 2169 01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:16,480 Son, just a question. Uh, the owner of 2170 01:45:16,480 --> 01:45:19,040 the property you referred to and we have 2171 01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:22,960 it's uh 526 North LLC. Is that correct? 2172 01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:24,480 Yes. Okay. I'm sorry. I thought I heard 2173 01:45:24,480 --> 01:45:31,669 something else. 2174 01:45:31,679 --> 01:45:35,109 MX4. 2175 01:45:35,119 --> 01:45:38,080 All three. All three are MX4. Correct. 2176 01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:40,960 Yep. 2177 01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:42,880 Do you have any idea how how long they 2178 01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:44,639 have owned this property? I mean, is it 2179 01:45:44,639 --> 01:45:46,080 a recent purchase since it's not 2180 01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:48,239 considered it's not a right away or I'm 2181 01:45:48,239 --> 01:45:52,390 just kind of curious. 2182 01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:55,880 Um the property was created since uh 2183 01:45:55,880 --> 01:45:57,400 2023 2184 01:45:57,400 --> 01:46:05,910 and yes that that that time the 2185 01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:07,440 in the staff report the property became 2186 01:46:07,440 --> 01:46:09,840 a new tax parcel in 2023 following the 2187 01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:12,239 adoption of reszone right so there's a 2188 01:46:12,239 --> 01:46:16,560 backlog of these reszone of parcels so 2189 01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:19,119 um right understood that working so but 2190 01:46:19,119 --> 01:46:21,840 it was owned by by the person even 2191 01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:23,960 before 2192 01:46:23,960 --> 01:46:38,629 that. Okay. 2193 01:46:38,639 --> 01:46:41,280 Yeah. So, um as confirmed by the zoning 2194 01:46:41,280 --> 01:46:43,360 staff, the properties are previously 2195 01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:46,719 owned by the city and was also sold to 2196 01:46:46,719 --> 01:46:49,840 these u currently property owners in the 2197 01:46:49,840 --> 01:47:00,109 2023. Great. Great. 2198 01:47:00,119 --> 01:47:03,400 Further questions 2199 01:47:03,400 --> 01:47:08,590 on any one of these three zoning map 2200 01:47:08,600 --> 01:47:12,000 amendments for staff? If not, then are 2201 01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:15,080 there individuals who wish to speak in 2202 01:47:15,080 --> 01:47:19,280 favor of any one of these three zoning 2203 01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:22,480 map amendments? 2204 01:47:22,480 --> 01:47:24,400 Just provide your name, please, and 2205 01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:26,800 address and comments. My name is Jamie 2206 01:47:26,800 --> 01:47:30,639 Williams. I live at 729 Sumar Avenue in 2207 01:47:30,639 --> 01:47:33,280 the city. Um, I'm an associate partner 2208 01:47:33,280 --> 01:47:36,000 with Homeskin Cquest Architects and our 2209 01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:39,280 office is 575 North Salina Street across 2210 01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:42,400 the street from the Flat Iron Building. 2211 01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:44,880 Um, I'm speaking on behalf of the 2212 01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:48,639 ownership uh of the building. Uh, on 2213 01:47:48,639 --> 01:47:50,560 behalf of Twin Gables Holding Company, 2214 01:47:50,560 --> 01:47:53,360 the ownership entity of 575 North Salina 2215 01:47:53,360 --> 01:47:57,360 for over 35 years. We enthusiastically 2216 01:47:57,360 --> 01:48:00,320 support the revitalization of 53536 2217 01:48:00,320 --> 01:48:02,159 North Salina. 2218 01:48:02,159 --> 01:48:04,159 As the architects for that project, we 2219 01:48:04,159 --> 01:48:06,159 were kneedeep in our clients efforts to 2220 01:48:06,159 --> 01:48:08,320 secure ownership of the adjacent 2221 01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:10,960 Prospect Avenue property so that the 2222 01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:12,880 additional property could facilitate 2223 01:48:12,880 --> 01:48:14,920 building egress, handicapped 2224 01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:17,119 accessibility, and zoning required 2225 01:48:17,119 --> 01:48:19,600 parking. These efforts began with the 2226 01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:22,480 engineering engineering department, then 2227 01:48:22,480 --> 01:48:24,560 on to the planning commission and 2228 01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:26,800 ultimately to a successful appeal to the 2229 01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:29,520 common council. Changing the zone 2230 01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:31,360 district of the subject property to 2231 01:48:31,360 --> 01:48:34,239 urban core MX4 will allow both 2232 01:48:34,239 --> 01:48:35,880 properties to match zoning 2233 01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:38,000 classification and will make it easier 2234 01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:41,080 for this worthy project to proceed to 2235 01:48:41,080 --> 01:48:43,040 completion. Thanks for your 2236 01:48:43,040 --> 01:48:45,000 consideration. Carlton 2237 01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:48,880 Holmes partner homes can conquest. 2238 01:48:48,880 --> 01:48:51,149 Thank 2239 01:48:51,159 --> 01:48:53,760 you. Are there other individuals who 2240 01:48:53,760 --> 01:48:56,560 wish to speak in favor of any one of 2241 01:48:56,560 --> 01:48:57,960 these 2242 01:48:57,960 --> 01:49:00,920 three 2243 01:49:00,920 --> 01:49:03,119 applications? If not, is there anyone 2244 01:49:03,119 --> 01:49:05,040 wishing to speak in opposition to any 2245 01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:08,750 one of these three 2246 01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:10,880 applications? Don't appear to be any 2247 01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:13,480 additional speakers. We'll close public 2248 01:49:13,480 --> 01:49:16,719 comment and proceed with our seeker 2249 01:49:16,719 --> 01:49:19,280 review. We're going to do seeker for all 2250 01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:23,360 three. Um that's 2251 01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:26,560 I think because they're all related. Um 2252 01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:29,440 it is good similar. Keep them separate 2253 01:49:29,440 --> 01:49:31,760 in your head. 2254 01:49:31,760 --> 01:49:33,520 Has everyone had a chance to review the 2255 01:49:33,520 --> 01:49:36,320 EAF part one prepared by the applicant 2256 01:49:36,320 --> 01:49:38,159 and contained in your packet as to each 2257 01:49:38,159 --> 01:49:40,320 of these parcels, each of these um 2258 01:49:40,320 --> 01:49:41,679 resones? 2259 01:49:41,679 --> 01:49:46,480 Yes. Yes. Okay. Has everyone nice had a 2260 01:49:46,480 --> 01:49:48,400 chance to review the EAF part two 2261 01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:50,159 prepared by staff contained in your 2262 01:49:50,159 --> 01:49:52,400 packet as to each of these three 2263 01:49:52,400 --> 01:49:54,560 separate applications? 2264 01:49:54,560 --> 01:49:56,880 Yes. 2265 01:49:56,880 --> 01:50:00,320 Does anyone believe the proposed actions 2266 01:50:00,320 --> 01:50:03,119 any of the three reasons will have a 2267 01:50:03,119 --> 01:50:05,920 moderate to large impact under seeker? 2268 01:50:05,920 --> 01:50:07,280 No. 2269 01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:08,800 Having determined there will be no 2270 01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:10,719 moderate to large impacts for the 2271 01:50:10,719 --> 01:50:12,800 reszone of any of these three 2272 01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:15,400 applications, I recommend that the 2273 01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:18,239 commission make a negative declaration 2274 01:50:18,239 --> 01:50:22,000 as to each um project number separately 2275 01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:25,119 and um prepare a part three EAF 2276 01:50:25,119 --> 01:50:27,119 accordingly. 2277 01:50:27,119 --> 01:50:29,119 Thank you. So we'll proceed one by one 2278 01:50:29,119 --> 01:50:32,600 now through these proposed zoning uh map 2279 01:50:32,600 --> 01:50:36,679 amendments. First, uh, taking up 2280 01:50:36,679 --> 01:50:40,239 Z2895. Is there a secret motion for 2281 01:50:40,239 --> 01:50:41,840 this? 2282 01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:43,760 Yes, I'm prepared to make a motion to 2283 01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:45,239 approve 2284 01:50:45,239 --> 01:50:48,800 Z-2895 as presented. I'm sorry, we're 2285 01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:49,880 still on 2286 01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:52,560 seeker. Make a motion for issuing a 2287 01:50:52,560 --> 01:50:56,880 negative seeker declaration for Z-2895. 2288 01:50:56,880 --> 01:50:59,360 Thank you. Thank you. Discussion on this 2289 01:50:59,360 --> 01:51:01,440 seeker motion. 2290 01:51:01,440 --> 01:51:03,520 If not, all in favor, please indicate by 2291 01:51:03,520 --> 01:51:07,719 saying I. I. Those opposed, please say 2292 01:51:07,719 --> 01:51:10,639 nay. Any abstensions? The secret motion 2293 01:51:10,639 --> 01:51:14,520 is approved. We might as well act upon 2294 01:51:14,520 --> 01:51:18,000 Z28.995. Is there a motion for action 2295 01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:20,880 uh to the common council for final 2296 01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:23,280 disposition of the zoning map amendment? 2297 01:51:23,280 --> 01:51:25,199 Z2895. 2298 01:51:25,199 --> 01:51:27,400 I make motion for approval of 2299 01:51:27,400 --> 01:51:29,679 Z-2895 with a recommendation for 2300 01:51:29,679 --> 01:51:30,880 affirmative action to the common 2301 01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:32,719 council. 2302 01:51:32,719 --> 01:51:36,040 Thank you both. Mo uh discussion on the 2303 01:51:36,040 --> 01:51:38,320 motion. All in favor of the motion, 2304 01:51:38,320 --> 01:51:41,520 please indicate by saying I. I. Those 2305 01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:44,679 opposed, please say nay. Any 2306 01:51:44,679 --> 01:51:47,119 abstensions? That is approved. We'll go 2307 01:51:47,119 --> 01:51:50,960 on to the council Z2896. 2308 01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:53,760 Is there a seeker motion for this zoning 2309 01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:56,119 map amendment? Make a motion for a 2310 01:51:56,119 --> 01:51:58,840 minute. Affirmative issue an affirmative 2311 01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:00,960 recommendation. Sorry, an affirmative 2312 01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:04,560 negative decoration for decative ne 2313 01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:06,960 affirmative negative secret declaration. 2314 01:52:06,960 --> 01:52:08,599 Thank 2315 01:52:08,599 --> 01:52:12,400 you. Negative secret. Yes. Too too many 2316 01:52:12,400 --> 01:52:16,560 a negative declaration on Z 28. Let's 2317 01:52:16,560 --> 01:52:18,760 try this 2318 01:52:18,760 --> 01:52:21,599 again. And Is there discussion on this 2319 01:52:21,599 --> 01:52:25,280 motion for seeker? If not, all in favor, 2320 01:52:25,280 --> 01:52:28,159 please indicate by saying I. I. Those 2321 01:52:28,159 --> 01:52:30,960 opposed, please say nay. 2322 01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:33,560 Any abstensions? The seeker motion 2323 01:52:33,560 --> 01:52:36,960 carries. And is there now a motion for 2324 01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:38,960 recommendation to go to the council on 2325 01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:42,320 this amendment Z2896? 2326 01:52:42,320 --> 01:52:45,440 Yes. I make a motion uh for approval of 2327 01:52:45,440 --> 01:52:46,520 [Music] 2328 01:52:46,520 --> 01:52:48,719 Z-2896 with an affirmative 2329 01:52:48,719 --> 01:52:52,639 recommendation to the common council. 2330 01:52:52,639 --> 01:52:53,400 Thank 2331 01:52:53,400 --> 01:52:58,199 you. Is there discussion on this 2332 01:52:58,199 --> 01:53:00,960 motion? Not all in favor of the motion, 2333 01:53:00,960 --> 01:53:04,639 please indicate by saying I. I. Those 2334 01:53:04,639 --> 01:53:06,480 opposed, please say nay. Any 2335 01:53:06,480 --> 01:53:08,080 abstensions? 2336 01:53:08,080 --> 01:53:10,119 That recommendation for 2337 01:53:10,119 --> 01:53:12,360 Z2896 moves to the 2338 01:53:12,360 --> 01:53:16,199 council. Looking now at 2339 01:53:16,199 --> 01:53:19,599 Z2897. Is there a seeker motion on this 2340 01:53:19,599 --> 01:53:20,960 amendment? All right. Let's see if we 2341 01:53:20,960 --> 01:53:22,440 can do it right this 2342 01:53:22,440 --> 01:53:27,360 time. Um I make a motion for issuing a 2343 01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:32,310 negative seeker declaration for Z-2897. 2344 01:53:32,320 --> 01:53:33,719 Discussion on the 2345 01:53:33,719 --> 01:53:36,080 motion. All in favor of the motion, 2346 01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:39,199 please indicate by saying I. I. I. Those 2347 01:53:39,199 --> 01:53:42,520 opposed, please say nay. Any 2348 01:53:42,520 --> 01:53:46,000 abstensions? The secret motion carries. 2349 01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:49,360 Is there now a motion for action 2350 01:53:49,360 --> 01:53:51,119 uh by way of a recommendation to the 2351 01:53:51,119 --> 01:53:55,440 council for this amendment Z2897? 2352 01:53:55,440 --> 01:54:00,109 Yes. I make a motion for uh application 2353 01:54:00,119 --> 01:54:02,560 Z-2897 approved with an affirmative 2354 01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:04,400 recommendation for action by the city 2355 01:54:04,400 --> 01:54:07,360 council or common council. 2356 01:54:07,360 --> 01:54:10,080 Thank you. Second. Thank you. Discussion 2357 01:54:10,080 --> 01:54:11,960 on this 2358 01:54:11,960 --> 01:54:14,560 motion. If not, all in favor, please 2359 01:54:14,560 --> 01:54:17,920 indicate by saying I. I. I. Those 2360 01:54:17,920 --> 01:54:19,440 opposed, please say nay. Any 2361 01:54:19,440 --> 01:54:21,119 abstensions? 2362 01:54:21,119 --> 01:54:23,880 This recommendation will also go to the 2363 01:54:23,880 --> 01:54:27,840 council. And I think that completes our 2364 01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:30,080 hearings, but not quite our business 2365 01:54:30,080 --> 01:54:32,760 this evening. We have an other business 2366 01:54:32,760 --> 01:54:37,520 item. Yes, we have one um we have items 2367 01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:39,840 in the out of business. Um the first one 2368 01:54:39,840 --> 01:54:43,599 is the three mile limits subdivision 2369 01:54:43,599 --> 01:54:46,880 uh review. is in the town of Dwit and 2370 01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:50,719 it's for the lot line adjustment of the 2371 01:54:50,719 --> 01:54:54,880 A12 and A20 Franklin Park Drive. The 2372 01:54:54,880 --> 01:54:57,280 owner and applicant are the Stefan 2373 01:54:57,280 --> 01:54:58,760 Oliver 2374 01:54:58,760 --> 01:55:01,920 Jr. and this application has been 2375 01:55:01,920 --> 01:55:05,040 reviewed um by the city of Syracuse 2376 01:55:05,040 --> 01:55:08,159 Department of Engineering. 2377 01:55:08,159 --> 01:55:09,320 Thank 2378 01:55:09,320 --> 01:55:13,199 you. Is there are there any questions on 2379 01:55:13,199 --> 01:55:17,119 this? item. No questions. If not, is 2380 01:55:17,119 --> 01:55:20,119 there a motion for action on 2381 01:55:20,119 --> 01:55:23,280 3S2505 in DWIT? 2382 01:55:23,280 --> 01:55:26,599 Make a motion to approve uh 2383 01:55:26,599 --> 01:55:30,080 3S-25-05 as presented. Thank you. Thank 2384 01:55:30,080 --> 01:55:32,400 you both. All in favor of the motion, 2385 01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:35,920 please indicate by saying I. I. Those 2386 01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:38,239 opposed, please say nay. Any 2387 01:55:38,239 --> 01:55:39,760 abstensions? 2388 01:55:39,760 --> 01:55:42,360 That three mile limit in det is 2389 01:55:42,360 --> 01:55:44,960 approved. And I think our last item 2390 01:55:44,960 --> 01:55:47,560 before adjournment is 2391 01:55:47,560 --> 01:55:52,239 um uh election of officers for the 2392 01:55:52,239 --> 01:55:58,709 planning commission. 2393 01:55:58,719 --> 01:56:02,880 I move the nomination of Steve as chair 2394 01:56:02,880 --> 01:56:07,830 and Walter. 2395 01:56:07,840 --> 01:56:10,480 A second. 2396 01:56:10,480 --> 01:56:14,000 discussion on the motion. 2397 01:56:14,000 --> 01:56:16,110 What was that? 2398 01:56:16,110 --> 01:56:20,320 [Laughter] 2399 01:56:20,320 --> 01:56:23,599 It could happen. 2400 01:56:23,599 --> 01:56:27,880 Further discussion on the motion. 2401 01:56:27,880 --> 01:56:31,199 Uh rush this. Okay. So, but if there's 2402 01:56:31,199 --> 01:56:33,679 no but if there's no discussion, all in 2403 01:56:33,679 --> 01:56:36,320 favor, please indicate by saying I. I. 2404 01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:39,560 Those opposed, please say nay. Any 2405 01:56:39,560 --> 01:56:42,080 abstensions? Any hold outs? 2406 01:56:42,080 --> 01:56:44,800 Congratulations. Thank you. And thank 2407 01:56:44,800 --> 01:56:48,560 you. And uh we'll convey this 2408 01:56:48,560 --> 01:56:53,000 information to Walter. Yeah. Um in due 2409 01:56:53,000 --> 01:56:55,679 time for the additional responsibilities 2410 01:56:55,679 --> 01:56:57,800 that we added to the vice chair's 2411 01:56:57,800 --> 01:57:00,480 position. Uh all seven pages of those 2412 01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:02,400 duties we will convey to him. That's 2413 01:57:02,400 --> 01:57:06,280 right. Our new job description. Right. 2414 01:57:06,280 --> 01:57:08,880 And I think we're finished with our 2415 01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:10,400 official business. Is there a motion to 2416 01:57:10,400 --> 01:57:14,719 adjurnn? So move. Second. All in favor, 2417 01:57:14,719 --> 01:57:18,080 please say I. I. Those opposed, please 2418 01:57:18,080 --> 01:57:21,679 say nay. We adjourned and we will 2419 01:57:21,679 --> 01:57:25,119 reconvene June 2420 01:57:25,119 --> 01:57:27,360 16. 16. Okay. Thank you. Well, we have 2421 01:57:27,360 --> 01:57:28,800 our workshop. No, we have our workshop 2422 01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:35,199 before. So the pregnant question is when are we going to get the amendments? 2423 01:57:35,199 --> 01:57:39,430 very soon. 2424 01:57:39,440 --> 01:57:44,229 Does that mean this week? 2425 01:57:44,239 --> 01:57:48,119 The vice chair see