1 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,440 Public Arts Commission. Uh we will just 2 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,279 have uh I'll call this meeting to order 3 00:15:53,279 --> 00:15:54,800 and we'll just have everybody go around 4 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,480 quickly and just briefly introduce 5 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,680 themselves. We can start. Yeah. 6 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,759 >> Elias Gwyn. 7 00:16:01,759 --> 00:16:04,800 >> Yep, that's fine. Emma Rider, 8 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,199 >> Sophia Gutierrez, 9 00:16:07,199 --> 00:16:10,560 >> Emmanuel Carter, 10 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,240 >> Deanna Roboti, 11 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,199 >> Sisha Bur, Commissioner Parks. 12 00:16:15,199 --> 00:16:19,040 >> All right. Um, so yes, we will review 13 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,000 the minutes from last week's meeting. 14 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,360 Um, there isn't a whole lot on there. We 15 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,040 didn't have quorum, but just again, just 16 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,120 to kind of review, make sure everybody 17 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,600 reviews it. Um, yeah, we'll just look at 18 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:37,430 that. 19 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,199 I move to approve. 20 00:16:39,199 --> 00:16:40,160 >> Second. 21 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:44,240 >> All right. So, all in favor? 22 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,000 Perfect. 23 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:52,470 Motion passes with all. Perfect. 24 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,480 All right. Uh, so we'll move on to our 25 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:58,240 main motions. Uh we have Spack 2519, 26 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,920 Jump Shot and Skyline by Alli Walker. Uh 27 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,360 if you would like to come up. Uh and 28 00:17:05,360 --> 00:17:06,559 yeah, if you want to tell us a little 29 00:17:06,559 --> 00:17:09,760 bit about uh your proposal. 30 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,400 >> Uh yes, I'm looking to uh paint a mural 31 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,120 on the side of the CNC Mini Mart over on 32 00:17:15,120 --> 00:17:17,919 um North Saline Street. Uh the owner 33 00:17:17,919 --> 00:17:21,199 would like to do uh the Syracuse City 34 00:17:21,199 --> 00:17:23,600 skyline at dusk on both sides of the 35 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:28,559 entryway. Um and then on the corner uh 36 00:17:28,559 --> 00:17:31,120 entitled jump shot, he uh would just 37 00:17:31,120 --> 00:17:34,160 like a ve very generic character um 38 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:38,160 reaching up for a jump shot um with just 39 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,720 a nice orange blue palette to just match 40 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,470 our lovely city. 41 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,360 » Yeah. Awesome. Uh Shisha, because I know 42 00:17:47,360 --> 00:17:49,760 we don't have in color. Do you have an 43 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:50,960 image in color? 44 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,360 >> Oh, yep. I do, I think. Sorry. I don't 45 00:17:53,360 --> 00:17:54,320 know if I didn't come 46 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:55,360 >> just so that we can look over. 47 00:17:55,360 --> 00:18:01,029 >> You know what? I don't know if I do. 48 00:18:01,039 --> 00:18:01,600 » You have one. 49 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,440 >> I don't. Nope. Let's say Ally, do you 50 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:04,960 have an image and color portrait just so 51 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,160 that we can just a quick look at it? 52 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,799 >> And Ally, these uh Coca-Cola logos, 53 00:18:10,799 --> 00:18:12,320 they're advertisements that are 54 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:13,520 currently on the building or 55 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:14,799 >> they're already currently on the 56 00:18:14,799 --> 00:18:17,760 building and they are for 57 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:18,320 >> um 58 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,679 >> the business itself. 59 00:18:21,679 --> 00:18:24,160 Coca-Cola. 60 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,000 >> Gotcha. 61 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:30,230 >> And then um 62 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,480 » because I'm kind of in the logo mindset, 63 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,799 this this basketball form in the 64 00:18:34,799 --> 00:18:37,360 background does have the feeling of a 65 00:18:37,360 --> 00:18:40,240 logo to me. Oh, no. Seeing it in color 66 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:41,840 changes it completely. Okay. Because 67 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:43,840 there is one there's like a national 68 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,280 basketball league with a blue tone. No, 69 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,200 I try to stay away from anything that 70 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:50,960 would have to do, but I wanted to at 71 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:52,160 least capture the 72 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:53,919 >> This is why it being in color matters. 73 00:18:53,919 --> 00:18:56,400 It's like my brain went to that other 74 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,799 recogn 75 00:18:58,799 --> 00:19:02,080 uh you know encapsulated basketball with 76 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:03,760 the gentleman jumping up there in case 77 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,280 you missed that right there. 78 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:08,559 >> Okay. 79 00:19:08,559 --> 00:19:13,350 >> Very literal. 80 00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:14,960 Yeah, we can open up to any other 81 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,679 questions. 82 00:19:17,679 --> 00:19:19,360 >> What's the condition of the wall right 83 00:19:19,360 --> 00:19:20,000 now? 84 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,720 >> Uh they repaired the bottom. So if uh 85 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:24,320 unfortunately your black and whites 86 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:25,520 don't probably show it, but they 87 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,120 repaired the bottom of the wall too as 88 00:19:27,120 --> 00:19:29,919 well. Um and the sidewalk, it was just 89 00:19:29,919 --> 00:19:31,520 uh 90 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,720 over time period had worn down. Uh so 91 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,840 they've uh over the summer they've got 92 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,400 all new um bottom exterior repaired the 93 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,160 wall and then they repaired the sidewalk 94 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:46,880 too as well. Uh it looks like um 95 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:48,960 between switching owners there was a 96 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,360 sidewalk that was put in. Um so there 97 00:19:51,360 --> 00:19:54,400 were some uh parking stoppers there that 98 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:55,919 they also moved to as well. And then 99 00:19:55,919 --> 00:19:58,000 he's in the process of also repairing 100 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,679 the back portion of the wall that nobody 101 00:19:59,679 --> 00:20:02,240 can see but he just wants it done. It's 102 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:03,919 a brand new owner that has just taken 103 00:20:03,919 --> 00:20:07,840 over this uh building and business. 104 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,520 >> Is there a maintenance plan? Because I 105 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,440 can imagine if it's if it's had issues 106 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:12,240 before. 107 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:13,200 >> Um it could 108 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,840 >> is maintenance plan as far as I mean 109 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,200 most of the murals that I've painted 110 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,200 here around Syracuse. Uh we put a UV 111 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,080 coating over it. Um I make sure that 112 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,640 there's a nice uh uh the building's 113 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,720 primed, ready to go, so there's a nice 114 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,720 backdrop. And usually they last up to 115 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,640 about seven, eight years. And I take a 116 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,480 lot of pride in my art. So, if there's 117 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,880 any defacing, it's usually gone within a 118 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,039 week. Um, the owners and I usually just 119 00:20:37,039 --> 00:20:38,960 have a a small agreement where they'll 120 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,960 just call me back and I just make sure 121 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:47,190 everything looks great. 122 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:48,960 » Uh, I just have a quick question on time 123 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,200 frame. Uh, because I miss Yeah, right 124 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:52,400 now it's very difficult. 125 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,159 >> Uh, it took me a little while to find 126 00:20:54,159 --> 00:20:56,640 the right person. So, um, it was 127 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,799 scheduled for uh, 128 00:20:58,799 --> 00:21:01,200 >> the summer. Um, we've now pushed it back 129 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,480 and uh we're just going to uh hope for 130 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,200 spring as soon as we get a nice piece of 131 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:07,600 weather. 132 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:08,880 >> That's fair. Okay. 133 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,240 >> Um, looks like we'll start with the 134 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:11,840 front and then we'll go to the back side 135 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:12,640 as well. 136 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:17,669 >> Okay, perfect. 137 00:21:17,679 --> 00:21:24,230 Any other questions? 138 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:25,679 » Can I get a motion? 139 00:21:25,679 --> 00:21:28,240 >> Let's go. A motion to approve. 140 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,799 >> Second. All right. So, we have Deanna 141 00:21:30,799 --> 00:21:35,760 and Elias. All right. All in favor? 142 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:36,320 >> Awesome. 143 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:36,960 >> Beautiful. 144 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:37,280 >> Great. 145 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:38,240 >> Thank you very much. 146 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,720 >> So, motion passes. Thanks, Ally. And 147 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,880 yeah, um just keep us posted on when 148 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:43,919 you're completed. 149 00:21:43,919 --> 00:21:44,880 >> Absolutely. 150 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,480 >> I will add that I live in that 151 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,400 neighborhood and look at that store 152 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,080 every single day, so it'll be nice to 153 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,320 have some color. 154 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,440 >> A little more color over on that side. 155 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,640 >> Welcome. Come on in. 156 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,080 or you can Yeah, either way. 157 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,400 All right. So, yes, I know that that was 158 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,960 the primary motion 159 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,760 uh up for consideration. 160 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,640 Um now we will just move into some 161 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,320 discussion. I know that there were some 162 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,440 things that we discussed last week. Uh 163 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,400 but Commissioner Bird, is there anything 164 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:26,080 else that we need to discuss tonight? 165 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,400 Um, I don't think so. The only thing I 166 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,559 would mention is as we have a new mayor 167 00:22:30,559 --> 00:22:32,960 coming in in January, 168 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,240 um, some I would recommend and and she 169 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,960 as well that we wait on terms have been 170 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,799 extended to the end of the month. I know 171 00:22:40,799 --> 00:22:42,960 some there's three people on the 172 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,640 committee now that currently have termed 173 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,159 out. Um, so those um, letters will come 174 00:22:48,159 --> 00:22:50,320 out from the mayor's office in January 175 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,159 and you will be able to choose if you, know, stay on the committee or not. 176 00:22:54,159 --> 00:22:55,840 the com, excuse me, the commission or 177 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,159 not. Um, 178 00:22:58,159 --> 00:23:00,159 other than that, there were questions 179 00:23:00,159 --> 00:23:02,240 posed at the last meeting. I am still 180 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,799 working through some of those. Um, I did 181 00:23:06,799 --> 00:23:08,559 bring some of the ordinance with me 182 00:23:08,559 --> 00:23:10,240 because I've been studying and reading 183 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,320 through them. And I think what we 184 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,000 recommend, what was recommended last 185 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,400 meeting to host like a art commission 186 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,679 101 to revisit some of this. We just 187 00:23:19,679 --> 00:23:21,280 have to talk about when that could take 188 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,000 place, what your schedules look like. We 189 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,159 said starting I I recommend we start 190 00:23:26,159 --> 00:23:28,240 with the commission and then even do a 191 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,480 public yes meeting about thi you know 192 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,720 this is what the application is this is 193 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,799 how you go through the process this is 194 00:23:34,799 --> 00:23:36,480 who we are this is what public art our 195 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:37,600 coordinator is 196 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,919 >> can can we do an annual public info 197 00:23:39,919 --> 00:23:41,600 session um 198 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,919 >> I think during the winter is a great 199 00:23:43,919 --> 00:23:46,960 time um because people are usually 200 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,360 planning around that time 201 00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:52,960 >> um or yeah and it's not like the 202 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,480 summers, everyone's traveling and that 203 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:55,919 gets difficult or they're working on 204 00:23:55,919 --> 00:23:56,559 stuff. 205 00:23:56,559 --> 00:23:59,520 >> But if we do a yearly um info session, 206 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,000 that gives, you know, a lot of community 207 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,320 members opportunity to come in, people 208 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,799 who've never done murals before. 209 00:24:06,799 --> 00:24:07,360 >> Um 210 00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:09,039 >> I agree. And new artists that may be 211 00:24:09,039 --> 00:24:10,880 afraid of the process because they just 212 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:11,520 don't know. 213 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,520 >> Yeah. And it also is an opportunity to 214 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,200 orient any new commission members 215 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,760 because we do change off and often it's 216 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:18,720 just like here's 217 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,480 >> the packet's great. I'm really glad Tina 218 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:21,360 did that. But 219 00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:22,960 >> usually we're like welcome. Okay, now 220 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:23,760 let's get started. 221 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:24,720 >> Yes, no pressure. 222 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:25,200 >> Okay, 223 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,480 >> agreed. 224 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:27,840 >> I think it might also be helpful to have 225 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,520 that hybrid like if we could do that 226 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,840 somehow on Zoom. I know that it's live 227 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:32,720 streamed, but 228 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,960 >> the info session I believe we could. I'm 229 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,240 still um trying to dig deep and figure 230 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,600 out if we can do meetings virtually. I'm 231 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,600 not I I'm still reading through the 232 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:44,159 literature. 233 00:24:44,159 --> 00:24:47,360 >> From what I've heard uh cuz I checked in 234 00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:50,480 with Tina too um to see about this. I 235 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,640 don't think we can for open meeting law 236 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,880 reasons that they have to be public like 237 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,679 that. Um because essentially like we 238 00:24:57,679 --> 00:24:59,760 can't have an public open meeting on 239 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,039 Zoom. 240 00:25:01,039 --> 00:25:01,919 >> Yeah, 241 00:25:01,919 --> 00:25:05,120 >> it can be it can be WebEx though because 242 00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:08,799 that's what um the state uses and that's 243 00:25:08,799 --> 00:25:12,000 what we did um during CO. 244 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,360 >> See, but I think that was a special 245 00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:15,520 circumstances. I think they've dropped 246 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,520 all those things because 247 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,440 >> I mean they set it all up for co so that 248 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:20,960 yes people can do that but I think they 249 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,120 dropped a lot of that unless maybe we 250 00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:26,240 can try to add that back in. I don't 251 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,240 know based on the open meeting law and 252 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:29,440 maybe that's something we need to just 253 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,200 review as well open meeting laws and 254 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,559 what we need to do for these meetings. 255 00:25:34,559 --> 00:25:37,840 Um cuz yeah cuz we could do some Zoom 256 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,240 things that would be very helpful. Um 257 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,480 but I don't know if realistically that 258 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,080 is something that we can do. 259 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,679 >> Um yeah. Um just a quick uh refresher 260 00:25:49,679 --> 00:25:50,960 too for some of the stuff we talked 261 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:55,039 about last week. Um we talked about um 262 00:25:55,039 --> 00:25:56,960 uh commissioner terms. So making sure 263 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,120 that we're um again so kind of checking 264 00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:00,960 whose terms are up. How do we kind of 265 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,200 talk about the process of uh having 266 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,279 people step down or step up? Uh 267 00:26:05,279 --> 00:26:07,039 especially because we this is a 268 00:26:07,039 --> 00:26:09,039 volunteer commission so everybody has a 269 00:26:09,039 --> 00:26:11,200 day job and because most of us work in 270 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,200 the arts world, we also have a day job 271 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,360 and a side job and another like hobby 272 00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:18,159 thing. Like that's just that's real like 273 00:26:18,159 --> 00:26:21,360 um so talking about what does that look 274 00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:24,400 like in terms of um how many sessions 275 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:25,760 and meetings you can actually attend 276 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,720 versus not. um what does the process 277 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,960 look like if someone has extended and 278 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,279 not attended and essentially is holding 279 00:26:33,279 --> 00:26:35,360 a position hostage because that means 280 00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:36,799 that all of us have to be at every 281 00:26:36,799 --> 00:26:39,520 single meeting because if not then we 282 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:40,880 don't have quorum and we can't do 283 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,159 business um 284 00:26:44,159 --> 00:26:45,919 uh something else too was talking about 285 00:26:45,919 --> 00:26:48,799 a vice chair um cuz currently we don't 286 00:26:48,799 --> 00:26:50,240 have a vice chair I think we can 287 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,400 probably hold off on that until January 288 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,120 when we get back to make sure that again 289 00:26:55,120 --> 00:26:57,039 because if people's terms are up if you 290 00:26:57,039 --> 00:26:59,679 want to step down then that would be I 291 00:26:59,679 --> 00:27:01,039 mean if all three I don't know who those 292 00:27:01,039 --> 00:27:03,039 people are and we don't have to say that 293 00:27:03,039 --> 00:27:06,400 here and now but um essentially if all 294 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,320 three of those people then step down we 295 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,240 need four people to step up and that 296 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,279 would literally mean that everybody 297 00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:12,720 who's still on the commission has to be 298 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,880 at every single meeting um which is 299 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,720 going to be a hassle um 300 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,159 >> that's kind of how it is 301 00:27:18,159 --> 00:27:20,720 >> yeah no it's a problem currently so 302 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,600 we're going to do our best to kind of uh 303 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,240 start just navigate that in general I 304 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,120 too. Luckily, it's coming at a decent 305 00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:30,720 time where not a lot of public art is 306 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,960 coming in. Uh, but we should definitely 307 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,799 try to resolve this at least by March 308 00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:35,919 because that's when people are really 309 00:27:35,919 --> 00:27:39,279 going to start proposing stuff again. 310 00:27:39,279 --> 00:27:40,240 Um, 311 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,080 >> I would also like to add that um for us 312 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,200 to even look in on um how to help people 313 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,679 find funding towards it as a commission 314 00:27:49,679 --> 00:27:52,400 really pushed that. Right now TNT is 315 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,480 looking for applications 316 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,320 start there. We're changing it a little 317 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,559 bit, but it's starting now like for 318 00:27:58,559 --> 00:27:59,919 December. 319 00:27:59,919 --> 00:28:02,080 >> If you guys, anyone who wants to do a 320 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,399 piece of artwork or interest, start 321 00:28:04,399 --> 00:28:05,919 getting your information and getting out 322 00:28:05,919 --> 00:28:08,080 there and getting approvals because 323 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,520 remember you need all that process done. 324 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,080 So there is funding out there, but I 325 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,559 think we should also have a way to help 326 00:28:16,559 --> 00:28:19,200 direct artists towards those things. 327 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,480 >> And those funds are also for performance 328 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:23,919 art, 329 00:28:23,919 --> 00:28:25,679 >> musical things. if you want in your 330 00:28:25,679 --> 00:28:29,440 neighborhoods and stuff. All the TNTs 331 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,279 are looking for people to be members of 332 00:28:31,279 --> 00:28:32,960 TNT board too 333 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,159 >> and that helps to um do the funds in 334 00:28:36,159 --> 00:28:38,640 your neighborhoods. So if anyone's 335 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,159 interested I like here 336 00:28:42,159 --> 00:28:44,640 >> they're short people 337 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,320 but it's a great funding and it's not 338 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,080 that hard to do. 339 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,640 >> Can we circle back to the new member new 340 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,399 commissioner that's the process for 341 00:28:52,399 --> 00:28:54,480 that? What what's the takeaway on that? 342 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,070 So do 343 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:58,799 » so uh 344 00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:00,640 >> you sent me an email with a you 345 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,039 recommend I I found it so I know the 346 00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:04,559 recommendation. Okay. Sorry. 347 00:29:04,559 --> 00:29:06,320 >> Yes. So um 348 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,320 >> from what I understand and it it 349 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,080 actually so that's also why we need to 350 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,480 go into which commissioners because from 351 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,039 what I understand the 352 00:29:15,039 --> 00:29:16,559 >> so on the commission there's supposed to 353 00:29:16,559 --> 00:29:19,679 be I believe six artist spots and five 354 00:29:19,679 --> 00:29:22,000 non-art spots. So, those are positions 355 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,000 that are I mean, we all are kind of in 356 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,960 both. I feel like many of us are. Um, 357 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,720 >> but I think it's based on how it's 358 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,399 categorized. 359 00:29:30,399 --> 00:29:32,480 >> I don't know which is which, but one is 360 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,320 appointed by the mayor, the other is 361 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,520 appointed by common council. So, what we 362 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,799 are what I'm going to say for now is 363 00:29:40,799 --> 00:29:41,919 definitely we are looking for 364 00:29:41,919 --> 00:29:44,720 recommendations. Um, again, I know we 365 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,279 have officially one spot open. 366 00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:49,360 Potentially, just given again the kind 367 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,279 of information we've discussed tonight, 368 00:29:51,279 --> 00:29:54,080 there may be four to five spots open. 369 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,600 >> The one that's currently open, is that a 370 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,360 mayor position or a common 371 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,279 >> position? I'm not 100% sure. So, that's 372 00:29:59,279 --> 00:30:00,720 something that again we can kind of come 373 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,880 back in January to confirm and say this 374 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,919 is that, but again, that doesn't um 375 00:30:05,919 --> 00:30:08,720 >> if you have someone in to recommend, I 376 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,480 think recommend them regardless. Um, 377 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:11,760 >> okay. I would like to make a 378 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,360 recommendation. 379 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,279 >> Uh I have a very good friend named 380 00:30:15,279 --> 00:30:17,840 Rebecca Patterson who is an artist, an 381 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,360 art teacher, and a small business owner 382 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,679 in Syracuse. And she happens to be right 383 00:30:23,679 --> 00:30:24,320 here. 384 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:25,200 >> Hi, Rebecca. 385 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,440 >> And I do think that the non-art 386 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,760 position, there were artists in those 387 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:30,559 positions. 388 00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:32,000 >> Oh, probably. I have I have it right 389 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,600 here. I can read the ordinance. 390 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,159 >> Yeah. So, I I don't think it's like you 391 00:30:36,159 --> 00:30:37,840 cannot be an artist, 392 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,679 >> right? No, for sure. And again like I 393 00:30:39,679 --> 00:30:42,240 said many of us like what is an artist? 394 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,840 What's an arts administrator? What is 395 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,440 that? Because many artists do 396 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,679 administrative work for themselves and 397 00:30:47,679 --> 00:30:50,159 many administrators have been in some 398 00:30:50,159 --> 00:30:52,559 way involved in the arts in some way. So 399 00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:54,960 >> I think the spirit of the rule was to 400 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,039 make sure there were at least this many 401 00:30:57,039 --> 00:30:57,360 artists. 402 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,919 >> Yes. Yes. I think the the the idea of it 403 00:30:59,919 --> 00:31:01,840 is to ensure that again it's well again 404 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:02,960 also that it's not just 405 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,320 >> on them. We're all artists. 406 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,520 >> Well um yeah. Um, Rebecca, if you would 407 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:08,960 want to maybe introduce yourself and say 408 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,240 a little something. Yeah. 409 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,200 >> Um, hi, I'm Rebecca Patterson. I have 410 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,520 been an eighth and nth grade art teacher 411 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,600 for 18 years. Um, I have run a mural 412 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,039 club for my students for I want to say 413 00:31:23,039 --> 00:31:24,880 three years. We stepped back from it 414 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,960 this year just as a temporary pause cuz 415 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,520 life got a little overwhelming. But um I 416 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,120 am familiar with the process of trying 417 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,919 to walk young people through what that 418 00:31:33,919 --> 00:31:36,320 looks like and what is a mural versus 419 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,120 just a normal work of art. Um have very 420 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,039 strong ties to the area. I was born and 421 00:31:41,039 --> 00:31:44,880 raised here. I live a mile up the road. 422 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,440 Um we own a local business and are just 423 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,760 very invested in the community as a 424 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,080 whole obviously with it being where we 425 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,360 live. So, I'm very interested in uh just 426 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,080 hearing already it's already so 427 00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,760 interesting and hearing things that I 428 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,000 hadn't even like considered as a part of 429 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,760 what goes into putting a mural on the 430 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,919 side of a building. So, um it sounds 431 00:32:05,919 --> 00:32:08,159 like something that is a great um 432 00:32:08,159 --> 00:32:09,919 learning experience and a good 433 00:32:09,919 --> 00:32:12,240 opportunity to work with and meet new 434 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,799 artists and just be a bigger part of the 435 00:32:14,799 --> 00:32:16,240 art community. 436 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,600 >> So, I can tell you this. I've been on 437 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,320 just starting on this. I've been using 438 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,000 so much in my classroom. 439 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,399 >> Oh, I will tell you, we did the walk to 440 00:32:26,399 --> 00:32:28,480 the city and we went and saw the I saw 441 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,480 the boxes and one of the boxes was a 442 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,200 monster book one. It was cute as can be 443 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,919 and the kids loved it and then we saw a 444 00:32:35,919 --> 00:32:37,679 plain box and I said, "Which one would 445 00:32:37,679 --> 00:32:39,679 you like better?" 446 00:32:39,679 --> 00:32:43,120 >> Not needless to say, the kids are all 447 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,480 four more boxes. 448 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,480 >> Yeah. Yeah. And you know, I'm in contact 449 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,799 with hundreds of young artists every 450 00:32:48,799 --> 00:32:50,080 single day. So, 451 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,279 >> and that's what I'm saying. 452 00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:51,679 >> Yeah. 453 00:32:51,679 --> 00:32:54,159 >> I had my students actually look up. 454 00:32:54,159 --> 00:32:55,760 >> That was part of their goal was to look 455 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,120 up because there's so much beautiful 456 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:57,760 things around. 457 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:58,960 >> Yeah, for sure. 458 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,640 >> Rebecca, can you repeat your last name, 459 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:01,039 please? 460 00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:03,760 >> Patterson. P A T E R S O N. 461 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:04,720 >> I missed it. 462 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,880 >> That's nor Syracuse Junior High. 463 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,880 >> I mean, in the past, the recommendations 464 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,000 were just sent to Kate or Ann. 465 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:14,799 >> Yeah. 466 00:33:14,799 --> 00:33:15,440 >> Okay. 467 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,600 >> So, I'll I have it I have the email from 468 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:17,840 you. 469 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:18,080 >> Yeah. 470 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,679 >> Okay. So, we're good on that. 471 00:33:19,679 --> 00:33:20,480 >> Yeah. 472 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:21,360 >> Okay, cool. 473 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,320 >> Also to Thank you, Rick. 474 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,720 >> Stand before I 475 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:27,120 um 476 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,960 >> stand 477 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,080 >> on that. Any updates on the public art 478 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,679 coordinator position? 479 00:33:33,679 --> 00:33:36,320 >> So, we're re we had to rebenchmark the 480 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,120 position because the job description 481 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,640 wasn't clear. 482 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:41,120 >> Okay. 483 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,360 >> We talked about last meeting defining 484 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,360 the role of the commission versus the 485 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,240 public art coordinator. So HR, it's in 486 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,799 HR's hands to benchmark and then we'll 487 00:33:50,799 --> 00:33:51,760 post it. 488 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,480 >> Do you have a rough timeline of when 489 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:55,360 that might be or 490 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,440 >> I'm hoping soon. I I don't know, but 491 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,360 I'll I'll confirm with HR, 492 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:00,640 >> but it's something it's one of the 493 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,159 things at the top of my list. So 494 00:34:02,159 --> 00:34:02,799 >> Okay. Awesome. 495 00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:03,120 >> Yep. 496 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,240 >> And will you send it to all the 497 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,200 commissioners when it's live? 498 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:05,679 >> I will. 499 00:34:05,679 --> 00:34:06,080 >> Thank you. 500 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:06,799 >> I will. Thank you. 501 00:34:06,799 --> 00:34:07,919 >> Yes. 502 00:34:07,919 --> 00:34:08,960 >> Awesome. Um 503 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,240 >> yeah, 504 00:34:10,240 --> 00:34:13,359 >> but I I will just just so we know for 505 00:34:13,359 --> 00:34:14,960 the um 506 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,280 >> section 51.8 507 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,720 public art commission defines the 11 508 00:34:20,720 --> 00:34:23,679 voted members um how many are appointed 509 00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:28,560 by um council. My I guess right now my 510 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,560 issue is I don't know who's appointed by 511 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,480 who. So that's what I'm working with the 512 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,240 mayor's office to figure out. Once I 513 00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:36,960 have that, I'll know what positions are 514 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,879 open for council. 515 00:34:38,879 --> 00:34:40,560 >> Yeah, go for it. 516 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,159 >> Don't do you guys know who? 517 00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:44,399 >> I personally don't. Mayor, 518 00:34:44,399 --> 00:34:47,440 >> mayor. Mayor, 519 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,720 >> Sophie, hold on. Hold on. Sophie, 520 00:34:50,720 --> 00:34:52,480 >> you're too fast. 521 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:53,599 >> Three are mayor. 522 00:34:53,599 --> 00:34:55,359 >> Can the Yeah. Can the mayor folks raise 523 00:34:55,359 --> 00:34:56,639 hands? 524 00:34:56,639 --> 00:34:57,440 >> Us. 525 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,200 >> I believe I'm also mayor. 526 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:00,720 >> Okay. 527 00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:02,640 There's all your five mayors and then 528 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,880 your council m 529 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:05,760 >> browser 530 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,200 >> looking at my email. I'm trying to 531 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,200 figure out probably 532 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,720 >> I mean I can easily get it from the 533 00:35:10,720 --> 00:35:13,119 mayor's office. I'm working with them on 534 00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:14,160 this now. 535 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:14,480 >> Yeah. 536 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,720 >> That way we know when someone comes in 537 00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:18,480 who has to appoint. So do I 538 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,359 >> I should I should say that 539 00:35:21,359 --> 00:35:24,240 >> I got a letter from the mayor. I don't 540 00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:27,200 Does that mean it was the mayor? Okay. 541 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,599 >> We all got letters from the mayor. I got 542 00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:32,160 a mayor, but I know m uh you were 543 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,240 recommended by the council. So, I'll 544 00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:35,359 check into yours 545 00:35:35,359 --> 00:35:36,720 >> cuz we all get letters. 546 00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:38,480 >> Yeah, mine also says from the office of 547 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:39,119 the mayor. 548 00:35:39,119 --> 00:35:42,400 >> Yeah. So, that's why I put a aster cuz I 549 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,640 really don't know. I guess I was 550 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,320 supposed to go get sworn in by the 551 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:47,839 mayor, but it was during co so they're 552 00:35:47,839 --> 00:35:49,200 like, "You're not going to do that." 553 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:49,760 >> Yeah. I don't 554 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:50,720 >> That's all I remember. 555 00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:53,520 >> I was sworn in by the city clerk. 556 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,359 >> The city clerk. 557 00:35:55,359 --> 00:35:57,680 >> Yeah. Is that that's who you Okay. Yeah, 558 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,839 I was also surrounded by the mayor mayor 559 00:35:59,839 --> 00:36:01,440 office. 560 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,280 >> So again, I think this is something 561 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,440 where we can figure we can go into that 562 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:06,640 because someone has these records 563 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:07,520 somewhere. 564 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,079 >> So they exist. We will figure it out and 565 00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:13,520 we can maybe reassess again. That's why 566 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,119 >> I think what's h what's going to happen 567 00:36:15,119 --> 00:36:16,880 realistically is again we're in 568 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,960 December. Um the holidays are coming up. 569 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,040 It's snowing outside. We're probably not 570 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,079 going to be a lot of people are not 571 00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:23,280 going to be doing a lot of work. I 572 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,359 understand that. So, I think in January 573 00:36:25,359 --> 00:36:27,359 we can kind of reassess, relook at some 574 00:36:27,359 --> 00:36:30,160 of these things um and start putting 575 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,640 some action plans in motion to keep them 576 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,160 going forward. Um cuz even to something 577 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,320 I would like us to start again, this is 578 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,839 just a brainstorming. Um the I know that 579 00:36:41,839 --> 00:36:43,280 last meeting we talked a little bit 580 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,800 about the master plan and some of the 581 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,480 task force that we have in relation to 582 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,960 that master plan. Um that master plan is 583 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,440 now probably over 10 years old, if not 584 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,440 10 years old. Um, so it probably needs 585 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,079 some re-evaluation. Um, and even the 586 00:36:56,079 --> 00:36:59,280 task force that we initially set up, um, 587 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,280 probably should be re-evaluated on what 588 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:02,480 they're actually doing, what their 589 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,880 purpose is, um, what are the things that 590 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,119 we're going to be doing moving forward. 591 00:37:07,119 --> 00:37:08,720 Um, 592 00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:11,040 so yeah, so those are I think what I 593 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,560 need just to say, I think what I'm 594 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,320 getting at is that I think there's a lot 595 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,800 that's we have to do, but we don't have 596 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,079 to do it right this second. I think 597 00:37:18,079 --> 00:37:19,440 there I think that's the truth. Like 598 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:20,160 there's a lot. 599 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,800 >> I think we really are new. 600 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:23,200 >> Yeah. 601 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,320 >> And that's 602 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,480 >> be able to do this all together 603 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,680 >> for sure. Um yeah, 604 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,920 >> for the dates, I know last meeting you 605 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,920 all talked about whether Tuesday is a 606 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,359 good date. I don't know the common 607 00:37:35,359 --> 00:37:39,119 council chamber schedule. I did propose 608 00:37:39,119 --> 00:37:40,800 for the next meeting. We'll put out 609 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,359 we're working on or the calendar. We 610 00:37:43,359 --> 00:37:45,359 like to put it out a year so that 611 00:37:45,359 --> 00:37:47,119 everybody knows when the meetings are. 612 00:37:47,119 --> 00:37:48,960 So, the next proposed one, if it's the 613 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,960 second Tuesday of the month, is January 614 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:55,599 13th. Tuesday, January 13th at 5:30. 615 00:37:55,599 --> 00:37:56,880 >> We talking about potentially changing 616 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:57,839 the day of the week. 617 00:37:57,839 --> 00:38:00,079 >> No, it's always the second Tuesday. 618 00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:00,960 >> Okay. 619 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,720 >> But, but I mean, I know that's a 620 00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:04,400 question that came up. Is this not a 621 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,040 convenient time or day and that's why 622 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,160 folks aren't showing up? 623 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,760 >> I would love it to be not Tuesday. I 624 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,599 would love it to be Mondays, but I don't 625 00:38:11,599 --> 00:38:12,720 know if that's possible. 626 00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:15,520 >> CPC sometimes 627 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,359 is a problem. 628 00:38:17,359 --> 00:38:19,839 So I think 629 00:38:19,839 --> 00:38:22,160 I don't know I mean Tuesday I also don't 630 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,400 know the chamber schedule the calendar. 631 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:29,680 So um but I just put on there tenatively 632 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,680 I guess January 13th would be the next 633 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:32,160 meeting. 634 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,960 >> Should we send out some doodle polls? 635 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,480 >> That's what 636 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:37,599 >> I think 637 00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:40,960 >> with some I I I would happily create as 638 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,400 many doodle polls as you guys would like 639 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,800 for January. I think that would be fine. 640 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,720 Yeah. Well, I think we just The thing 641 00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:51,280 with January is we need it to be a month 642 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,480 in advance. So, we would need to 643 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:53,920 confirm. I think maybe 644 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,960 >> No, I'm talking about Well, 645 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,480 we should probably hold the meeting in 646 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,720 January. Yeah. And because we'll have a 647 00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:02,720 lot of new information by then and 648 00:39:02,720 --> 00:39:03,599 whatever. 649 00:39:03,599 --> 00:39:06,000 >> Um, but as far as like 650 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,800 >> having a yearly, you know, session where 651 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,520 we have an educational thing, you know, 652 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,599 >> or changing the date after that, I'm 653 00:39:13,599 --> 00:39:16,000 happy to do those incentives out. So, 654 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,000 >> I'll just have that in my mind on my 655 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,839 to-do list and we'll talk about it again 656 00:39:19,839 --> 00:39:20,400 in January. 657 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,520 >> I think that's perfect. Yeah. So, let's 658 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,680 keep the January 13th and then maybe by 659 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,119 that day we can maybe you and I can 660 00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:28,400 maybe look and see 661 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,240 >> you can see when the chamber is free if 662 00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:32,000 you are looking at dates 663 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,520 >> so that way we 664 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,760 >> and then we can possibly decide like a 665 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,040 different day if that works better for 666 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,560 people because again too we might have a 667 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,200 bunch of new commissioners. We'll uh 668 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:42,400 commissioners. Yes. Yeah, 669 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,079 >> we won't have any commissioners by then, 670 00:39:44,079 --> 00:39:44,880 but hopefully. 671 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,400 >> No, but we we'll know we'll have a 672 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:47,760 better sense of kind of what we're 673 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,000 playing with because then we can kind of 674 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,760 reassess from there. Again, I think 675 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,119 there's just too many things like in 676 00:39:53,119 --> 00:39:55,599 flux to pin things down right now is a 677 00:39:55,599 --> 00:39:58,480 little difficult. Um, but I do like that 678 00:39:58,480 --> 00:39:59,680 idea of like sending out I'll do the 679 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,680 poll and also looking to see like what 680 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,839 the general calendar looks like. 681 00:40:03,839 --> 00:40:09,200 >> So, last month we talked about um 682 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,800 Maggie. Maggie. 683 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,160 >> Yes. 684 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,400 asked. We we talked about communication 685 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:15,599 about these meetings. 686 00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:16,240 >> Yes. 687 00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:19,599 >> And so I recommended and I did send out 688 00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:22,880 a meeting a calendar invite. Is that 689 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,520 more helpful than 10 emails asking are 690 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:26,560 you available? 691 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:27,680 >> So good. 692 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:28,880 >> Much better. Yeah. 693 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,119 >> I mean I got immediate responses when I 694 00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:33,760 sent it out. So moving forward when we 695 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,440 bring on a public until the public 696 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,520 coordinator comes on that's what I will 697 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,599 do and I will have them do that as well. 698 00:40:39,599 --> 00:40:41,200 I think that's perfect. 699 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:41,520 >> That's 700 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:42,960 >> okay. 701 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,240 >> Just wanted to check in and see if it 702 00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:45,200 worked. 703 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:50,790 >> That was great. Thank you. 704 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:51,599 » All right. 705 00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:52,960 >> I have a quick question. 706 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:53,280 >> Yes. 707 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,319 >> So, for new 708 00:40:56,319 --> 00:40:58,880 applicants to be commissioners, they 709 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,040 still have to fill out the online form. 710 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:02,319 I assume 711 00:41:02,319 --> 00:41:05,680 >> it I don't see it very clearly on the 712 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,839 website. What I would recommend, Emma, 713 00:41:07,839 --> 00:41:11,119 for now is just send me a letter, a 714 00:41:11,119 --> 00:41:13,520 recommendation. You sent an email, 715 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,920 right? Eli sent an uh email. Yeah, a 716 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,800 quick email saying, "Hey, I have someone 717 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,560 >> um I want to recommend. How do I go 718 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,000 about doing that?" Just send an email. 719 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,520 If I need more information, I'll follow 720 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:24,319 up with you. 721 00:41:24,319 --> 00:41:25,760 >> Okay. I don't have anybody in mind, but 722 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,079 I was just if we wanted to to be there 723 00:41:28,079 --> 00:41:30,240 >> in the city of Yes. president of the 724 00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:31,040 city 725 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,359 >> and not super important but like the 726 00:41:33,359 --> 00:41:35,359 commission members are not accurate on 727 00:41:35,359 --> 00:41:37,280 the website but I don't know who's in 728 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:38,480 charge of updating that 729 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,240 >> so they're not updated I noted that 730 00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:43,599 today um I've I have someone helping 731 00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:46,640 with the website the we are still in 732 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,280 pause with the new website but I I 733 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,680 recognize that Tina's name is still the 734 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,160 um president or the chair and so I 735 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:55,839 already reached out to get that changed 736 00:41:55,839 --> 00:41:56,960 >> okay so 737 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,560 >> all good and you all added 738 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,680 >> the parks or just things on the website 739 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,520 sometimes take a while to 740 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,520 >> get updated. Like the volleyball 741 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,839 schedule wasn't posted, but that's a whole other 742 00:42:07,839 --> 00:42:08,880 >> It wasn't posted. 743 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,480 >> It was emailed out to us, but it's not 744 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,560 like on the website for parks. 745 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,400 >> It's on reces. 746 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:15,760 >> Oh, okay. 747 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:16,240 >> Yeah. 748 00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:17,680 >> All the check there. 749 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,440 >> Check all the different fields out on 750 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:20,960 >> Instead, it's just I send like three 751 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,400 emails to Trevor going, "What's 752 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:23,040 happening?" 753 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,839 >> Yeah. He posts all those schedules off 754 00:42:25,839 --> 00:42:28,000 top. Sorry, this is not our commission 755 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,520 conversation is on 756 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,040 >> it's on recess. 757 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:31,760 >> Okay. 758 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,040 >> Yes. All right. Anything else from 759 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,000 commissioners? 760 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,560 >> Do you know if they're going to the 761 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,160 highway department going to talk to like 762 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,079 the TNTs about the artwork that they 763 00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:46,079 were going to put on? 764 00:42:46,079 --> 00:42:48,720 >> Um they visited us once already. I'm not 765 00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:51,839 sure. I mean I can if I know they came I 766 00:42:51,839 --> 00:42:53,760 mean they talked about it here. Are they 767 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,000 going to Southside or any of those 768 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:56,560 neighborhood? 769 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,000 >> I don't know. That would be a DOT 770 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:02,160 question. I'm not sure. 771 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:02,960 >> I think 772 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,319 >> that's a great question that we've been 773 00:43:04,319 --> 00:43:07,359 also asking. I've emailed Joe Driscoll, 774 00:43:07,359 --> 00:43:09,520 but um curious 775 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,280 >> artwork has been selected. 776 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,440 >> I've heard 777 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,040 and it's 778 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,240 >> it's digital. 779 00:43:16,240 --> 00:43:17,839 >> You should look at the meeting when they 780 00:43:17,839 --> 00:43:20,319 were here. Um, I want to say that was 781 00:43:20,319 --> 00:43:21,520 >> I don't want to put words in their 782 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,640 mouth, but they they used in-house 783 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,920 graphic designers to produce samp 784 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:28,560 samples 785 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:29,520 >> samples. Bam. 786 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,680 >> And then that have themes and then those 787 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,280 themes which are, you know, 788 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,200 >> the anodogation one was gone. 789 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:35,599 >> Yeah. 790 00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:37,680 And then uh people are there 791 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,920 there's a there's going to be a public 792 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,520 commentary 793 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,839 >> on those themes, but then what gets put 794 00:43:43,839 --> 00:43:47,520 on the building is just going to be the 795 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,359 artwork by those graphic designers. From 796 00:43:49,359 --> 00:43:50,960 what I tried to nail them down, 797 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,040 >> computerized um 798 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,680 >> if you look, they're just like carved in 799 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,640 >> designs. So they use the things. But 800 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,040 what I was concerning is about what 801 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,359 images are they choosing to put up there 802 00:44:03,359 --> 00:44:05,839 cuz some of the neighborhood people were 803 00:44:05,839 --> 00:44:08,160 asking, you know, who's going to be able 804 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:08,960 to choose. 805 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,520 >> I saw a lot of the themes for the Canal 806 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,200 um kind of what they have over at the 807 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:14,160 Inner Harbor 808 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,319 >> and that's what they did. 809 00:44:16,319 --> 00:44:18,720 >> When we asked them on that, it was a 810 00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:20,319 pretty like 811 00:44:20,319 --> 00:44:22,480 >> we're going to do what we're going to 812 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:22,800 do. 813 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,119 >> Yeah. And I said, "Well, can we for the 814 00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:27,119 future have conversations about how this 815 00:44:27,119 --> 00:44:29,119 commission could recommend 816 00:44:29,119 --> 00:44:31,359 >> local artists and how that could then 817 00:44:31,359 --> 00:44:34,960 get worked into like I know that um in 818 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,839 Arizona artists, 2D artists can submit 819 00:44:37,839 --> 00:44:40,240 work and it can get transformed into 820 00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:43,440 bias relief. That's a thing that happens 821 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:44,880 regularly 822 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,839 >> um in many other public commissions with 823 00:44:47,839 --> 00:44:51,760 federal highways. Um, but 824 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:52,240 >> yes, 825 00:44:52,240 --> 00:44:53,839 >> we were smiled at and 826 00:44:53,839 --> 00:44:57,200 >> yeah, I I would say the what you did of 827 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,160 emailing Joe is probably the best and 828 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,520 most effective way. Um, and I would just 829 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,520 say email him again and keep bugging 830 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:06,079 him. 831 00:45:06,079 --> 00:45:06,480 >> Okay. 832 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:07,440 >> Yeah. 833 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,200 >> And if you have friends, tell them to 834 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:09,839 bug them, too. 835 00:45:09,839 --> 00:45:10,720 >> Yeah. 836 00:45:10,720 --> 00:45:12,240 >> All right. Yep. 837 00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:13,920 >> Okay. Any 838 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,359 >> can I was a 839 00:45:15,359 --> 00:45:17,200 >> I am happy that there will be something 840 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,040 though. 841 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,359 I don't want to to the people recording. 842 00:45:21,359 --> 00:45:22,800 I don't want to sound ungrateful for any 843 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,200 amount of art that's getting up. I just 844 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:26,800 >> think that there are 845 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,119 >> ways 846 00:45:29,119 --> 00:45:32,160 to get involved. So, I love painting. 847 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:33,760 So, 848 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,240 >> I guess and we want to 849 00:45:36,240 --> 00:45:39,920 >> help get our artist in there some 850 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:40,640 transparency. 851 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,680 >> I do think that they would that the DOT 852 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,319 team would come back and talk to us. 853 00:45:46,319 --> 00:45:46,800 Yeah. 854 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,040 >> Um, so I don't think that 855 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,119 >> I don't think that what's anything is a 856 00:45:51,119 --> 00:45:53,839 done deal yet and they said the 857 00:45:53,839 --> 00:45:56,000 anodation one was done. 858 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:56,560 >> Sorry. 859 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,599 >> The anodation one was done. Their design 860 00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:01,359 was they said that one was 861 00:46:01,359 --> 00:46:01,839 >> okay. 862 00:46:01,839 --> 00:46:03,520 >> I'll just add when they presented at the 863 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,280 north side. They presented recently at 864 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,640 the north side. I I facilitate TNT 865 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,400 meetings on the north side. 866 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,079 >> They did listen to what the art 867 00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:13,680 commission said and they are trying. 868 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,560 They don't have a mechanism to 869 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:17,920 >> they've never really worked with 870 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,280 artists, right? They don't have that 871 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:20,800 mechanism. So, they're they're really 872 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,400 looking into it. 873 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:23,599 >> That would be a great thing for us to 874 00:46:23,599 --> 00:46:25,440 talk about it. 875 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:26,960 >> Like what Saiia said, they're really 876 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,880 nice. They have the right intent. I just 877 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,359 they don't have the ability to to 878 00:46:31,359 --> 00:46:33,200 facilitate. And I think 879 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,359 >> I think this project is going to roll on 880 00:46:35,359 --> 00:46:38,079 at a pace that they're going to have to 881 00:46:38,079 --> 00:46:40,880 build as they go. And that might mean 882 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:41,599 making some 883 00:46:41,599 --> 00:46:44,240 >> well and I and I think realistically too 884 00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:46,480 this project is what a 10 year in 885 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,480 advance project like this is something 886 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,640 that will not be this will be the 887 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,000 commission we probably may not even all 888 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,280 be commissioners by the time these 889 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:54,960 projects are done and by the time that 890 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,200 those inks happen. So I think it's just 891 00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,839 about being patient being open being 892 00:46:59,839 --> 00:47:01,200 transparent and that's what we're trying 893 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,920 our best to do. And again, I think 894 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,240 something that at least myself, but I'm 895 00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:07,680 assuming most commissioners, like we 896 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,040 want to connect artists to these 897 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,720 opportunities. And I think what we're 898 00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:12,800 also trying to do is what are some other 899 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,640 opportunities specifically with parks as 900 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,160 well. Um, I know that's something that 901 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:17,920 Sha and I have talked about is like how 902 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,240 can we since we're with parks now, how 903 00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:21,920 do we make that more solid of a 904 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,400 connection? What does that look like? um 905 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,960 into even less permanent things because 906 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,560 again these projects that we're talking 907 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,560 about are probably going to be there for 908 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,520 at least 20 years at least that's what 909 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:37,040 I'm assuming and hoping um so how can we 910 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,880 kind of continue to do the other things 911 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,480 um so yeah 912 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,720 >> the other question is do we even have 913 00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:50,000 purview over like a federal highway or when it becomes the 81 business loop 914 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,720 does it cease being right it cease cease 915 00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:54,160 being federal ederal property and become 916 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:55,839 city property. 917 00:47:55,839 --> 00:47:58,960 >> I think some sort of jurisdiction like I 918 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,000 keep applying down to Manhattan um and 919 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,119 working with some of them. Um I get 920 00:48:05,119 --> 00:48:06,880 considered I just haven't done anything 921 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,119 yet but um I usually make it to the 922 00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:10,720 finalists and 923 00:48:10,720 --> 00:48:12,800 >> uh they go somebody else but uh it's for 924 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,960 asphalt art and it's also for game 925 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,119 ballards all along the highways and 926 00:48:17,119 --> 00:48:20,000 freeways. Um, and it seems to be all 927 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,119 driven through NY. That's where I apply 928 00:48:23,119 --> 00:48:23,839 to the future. 929 00:48:23,839 --> 00:48:24,400 >> Yeah. 930 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,640 >> Unless it's taken over by a different 931 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,040 burrow. Um, I've worked with a few 932 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,280 different burrows down there and 933 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,559 different people, but it all seems 934 00:48:34,559 --> 00:48:36,319 >> Yeah, I think that's something we need 935 00:48:36,319 --> 00:48:37,359 to understand. 936 00:48:37,359 --> 00:48:39,920 >> The boulevard will be state 937 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,520 >> owned. 938 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,800 But if the city wants art or trees in 939 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,079 the boulevard, 940 00:48:46,079 --> 00:48:48,160 >> the city will do the maintenance. 941 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,240 >> Yeah. 942 00:48:50,240 --> 00:48:50,880 >> New York. There's 943 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,400 >> opportunities there. 944 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,400 >> I believe so. And again, too, I think 945 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:55,040 >> sculpture 946 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,720 >> what we're what we're again we're in a I 947 00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:01,200 think Syracuse in general is at a weird 948 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,440 like growth period for a lot of 949 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:04,800 different things for businesses, but 950 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,920 also for the arts. I think uh I started 951 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,000 in 2022 with the commission and how much 952 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,160 we've done since then and how much it's 953 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:13,599 just going to continue to grow 954 00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:15,520 especially in this new position. So 955 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,160 again I think and also thinking about 956 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,000 kind of when we come back in January as 957 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,359 well of like what are some of those 958 00:49:21,359 --> 00:49:23,040 things that we want to maybe push for. 959 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,119 Um obviously like we're not going to 960 00:49:25,119 --> 00:49:28,400 paint all of 81 in like a year. Um and 961 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:29,839 we may not even have a proposal or an 962 00:49:29,839 --> 00:49:31,760 artist in mind for a year. Um, but what 963 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,520 are maybe some of those long-term, 964 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,359 short-term ideas that we can kind of 965 00:49:35,359 --> 00:49:37,599 start putting planting the seeds for 966 00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:38,559 moving forward with 967 00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:41,280 >> and them putting any artwork on, even 968 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,559 the digital stuff, they had nothing 969 00:49:44,559 --> 00:49:47,359 planned for the city at all. They had it 970 00:49:47,359 --> 00:49:49,680 for DWIT and everything else and if you 971 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,839 went to the previous hearings, they had 972 00:49:51,839 --> 00:49:54,079 nothing budgeted for the city to get any 973 00:49:54,079 --> 00:49:56,480 of that. It was in Dwitz part of their 974 00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,319 deal that they got the art on it ahead 975 00:49:58,319 --> 00:50:01,280 of time. The city had nothing and 976 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,720 through those community meetings people 977 00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:06,720 complained and said why aren't we 978 00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:09,839 getting art as well and they said it has 979 00:50:09,839 --> 00:50:11,599 to you also have to watch in the traffic 980 00:50:11,599 --> 00:50:13,359 and when they can put it up and what 981 00:50:13,359 --> 00:50:15,520 pieces based on traffic flow and 982 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,480 dangerous because if people's eyes go to 983 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,640 >> looking at the beautiful stuff 984 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,400 >> I would go back to the best person to 985 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,400 talk to about all this is Joe 986 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,960 >> Joe Driscoll this kind of goes out of 987 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,760 our purview as a a volunteer commission 988 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,599 as well. And again, we're here to kind 989 00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:34,160 of support and assist artists in these 990 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:35,280 initiatives, make sure that they're in 991 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,200 the best public interest, but again, 992 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:38,800 some of these bigger things kind of are 993 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,720 out of our purview. 994 00:50:40,720 --> 00:50:43,280 >> But the good news is it's still good 995 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,079 time to get involved. It's not like done 996 00:50:46,079 --> 00:50:48,319 yet. And because we're having this kind 997 00:50:48,319 --> 00:50:50,160 of weird explosive growth and there 998 00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:51,839 isn't 999 00:50:51,839 --> 00:50:53,760 sometimes it is good to not have the 1000 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,200 rules yet because they're looking to 1001 00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:58,960 grab people. So 1002 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,520 >> emailing and try to attend some of the 1003 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,400 community meetings and speak up so that 1004 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,040 and tell anyone else any local artists 1005 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,720 you know to be doing that because I 1006 00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:10,319 think that's going to create the 1007 00:51:10,319 --> 00:51:12,160 momentum and we're going to continue and 1008 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:13,839 maybe have more meetings with the 81 1009 00:51:13,839 --> 00:51:16,800 people. Um and then they'll that'll 1010 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,559 they'll understand that this is what the 1011 00:51:18,559 --> 00:51:21,280 community wants. Um 1012 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:22,559 >> right. 1013 00:51:22,559 --> 00:51:25,359 >> Thank you very Thank you. 1014 00:51:25,359 --> 00:51:29,920 Do I hear a motion to adjurnn? 1015 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:30,480 >> Sure. 1016 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:31,920 >> Yeah. I'll motion to adjurnn. 1017 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,520 >> Motion, Sophia. Second. 1018 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:37,760 >> Second, Lisa. All in favor? Yay. We're 1019 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,040 out. 1020 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,960 >> Thank you all for being here. 1021 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:47,990 >> Uh 610. Yeah. 1022 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,480 » Each budget has two. 1023 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,240 >> Yes. I see your 1024 00:51:52,240 --> 00:51:53,040 >> message on Facebook. 1025 00:51:53,040 --> 00:52:03,750 >> Yes. Um, would anybody like 1026 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,839 Yeah.