1 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:19,439 Okay, I will uh now call this meeting to order. Uh we will begin tonight with an 2 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:23,279 invocation. Jordan, would you mind with that? And then we'll be followed by a 3 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:26,439 pledge. Paul, would you lead us in the pledge after 4 00:00:24,519 --> 00:00:30,760 that? Our father in heaven, we are truly 5 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:36,440 graciously gathered together today to review the the issues before the 6 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:44,320 city. Please bless us as we consider each of these items that we 7 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:48,320 can be sympathetic to those that this will affect. And please bless us that we 8 00:00:46,079 --> 00:00:51,760 can know the best path forward that we can have wisdom granted from thee. and 9 00:00:50,239 --> 00:00:56,120 we are truly grateful for thy guidance in these things and ask a blessing upon 10 00:00:53,920 --> 00:01:03,920 all us the citizens of Syracuse that they can feel peace and understanding 11 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:09,119 and through these difficult times as we navigate economic troubles and continue 12 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:12,640 to bless us we can know the path forward and see the light at the end of the 13 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:16,880 tunnel these things we pray in Jesus name 14 00:01:13,479 --> 00:01:16,880 amen please rise 15 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:29,799 To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it 16 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:35,479 stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice 17 00:01:32,320 --> 00:01:35,479 for all. 18 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:47,439 Council, can I get a motion to adopt our agenda? Motion to adopt. Second. Uh, all 19 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:52,720 in favor? I I. Any opposed? Okay. With our agenda going forward, item number 20 00:01:49,759 --> 00:01:57,920 two is recognition and presentation of the Utah Administrative Fire Officer 21 00:01:55,119 --> 00:02:02,399 Designation to our Fire Marshal, Golden Barrett. And for any public in the 22 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:06,079 audience, let me just note that we have more people who have done the 23 00:02:03,759 --> 00:02:10,479 certifications in Utah than any other department. And I'm very proud of that. 24 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:13,760 Yes. Thanks, Mayor Council, for letting me have a little bit of time this 25 00:02:11,920 --> 00:02:17,080 evening. I'd like to invite Fire Marshall Golden Barrett up and then read 26 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:23,120 you a little statement here. So nearly 15 years ago, the Utah 27 00:02:20,319 --> 00:02:28,319 State Fire Chiefs Association supported by the Utah Fire and Rescue Academy and 28 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:33,080 the Utah State Fire Marshals Office established the Utah Commission on Fire 29 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:37,040 Officer Designation. It's a lot of Utah's. Since then, the commission has 30 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:43,120 developed a three- tier designation system for fire officers in Utah. The 31 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:47,040 first level is supervisory fire officer. The second level is managing fire 32 00:02:44,879 --> 00:02:53,200 officer. And the third and highest level is administrative fire officer. I'm 33 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:59,280 proud to report that of the 175 supervisory fire officers statewide, 13 34 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:04,640 are from Syracuse Fire. There are 15 managing fire officers statewide with 35 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:08,879 five of them being from Syracuse Fire. Tonight, we're here to recognize an 36 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:12,400 extraordinary achievement. Golden Barrett has earned the title of 37 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:15,680 administrative fire officer to the highest designation the highest 38 00:03:13,920 --> 00:03:20,319 designation and is only the second person in the state of Utah to do so. 39 00:03:18,319 --> 00:03:23,760 This accomplishment reflects thousands of hours of dedic dedicated to 40 00:03:22,640 --> 00:03:28,560 leadership development through education, hands-on experience, 41 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:32,400 certifications, and training across all three designation levels. 42 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:36,239 Golden's achievement demonstrates not only his personal commitment to 43 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:41,000 professional excellence, but also his deep dedication to serving the Syracuse 44 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:44,000 community and supporting his fellow firefighters. Please join me in 45 00:03:42,799 --> 00:03:47,480 congratulating Golden on this outstanding accomplishment. 46 00:03:55,200 --> 00:04:01,120 They sent us with a nice little plaque and a pin that he will have for his 47 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:04,120 uniform and uh like to give that to you. Congratulations. 48 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,799 Thank you. Thank you. 49 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:19,519 The next item on our agenda is public comment. And this is a chance for you to 50 00:04:17,840 --> 00:04:23,600 bring forward something that uh you'd like the council to be aware of either 51 00:04:20,959 --> 00:04:27,360 on tonight's agenda or something that uh you'd like us to consider in the future. 52 00:04:25,199 --> 00:04:32,440 It is not an open discussion, but is there anyone here that would like to 53 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,440 make public comment? 54 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:45,600 You'd please state your name for the record. Yeah, my name is Matt Swain. Um, 55 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:50,639 I'm one of the owners of the Shadowpoint Shopping Center and just wanted to take 56 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:55,280 a quick minute during the public uh uh comment session here to to discuss an 57 00:04:52,560 --> 00:05:02,080 item that's later on in the RDA agenda tonight. Um, just wanted to speak uh 58 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:05,680 quickly about uh the situation there and also offer up my time to answer any 59 00:05:03,840 --> 00:05:11,840 questions during during that time when the RDA is is hearing uh that item on 60 00:05:08,639 --> 00:05:17,320 the agenda to amend the current RDA agreement with uh relation to the EOS 61 00:05:15,280 --> 00:05:23,039 construction. Um, recognizing that there were two 62 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:28,160 technical non-compliance issues within the RDA agreement, I'm here tonight to 63 00:05:24,919 --> 00:05:34,080 just talk through uh the position of of the owner and hopefully uh talk through 64 00:05:31,840 --> 00:05:39,280 any concerns uh that you might have relating to our performance on actually 65 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:43,360 delivering the EOS building to the s city of Syracuse. As you can see, as you 66 00:05:41,919 --> 00:05:48,240 drive down analopee drive, you can see that all the building is moving forward. 67 00:05:45,840 --> 00:05:53,280 the walls are up and it's it's obviously moving forward toward completion. Uh 68 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:58,479 we've made a very significant investment in the in the city and have tried really 69 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:02,240 hard over the years to try to entice an anchor into the Shadow Point Shopping 70 00:06:00,479 --> 00:06:06,960 Center which is kind of at the gateway of Syracuse City and finally got one and 71 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:12,479 then it took years to actually get it built based upon COVID hitting which uh 72 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:17,360 dismantled the healthc care industry and also created chaos and construction 73 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:23,520 costs and capital markets etc which delayed the project for years. the RDA 74 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:28,520 as it was outlined in the agreement was um instrumental and really the catalyst 75 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:33,919 that allowed us to move forward on that project and we we wouldn't have moved 76 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:39,919 forward without that agreement and and the the joint cooperation with the city 77 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:44,720 and the RDA. And so my hope tonight is that we can have a discussion and and 78 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:49,919 work through any concerns relating to those two technicalities. One of which 79 00:06:47,280 --> 00:06:54,560 was the fact that the 100% of the foundation wasn't in by a certain date. 80 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:58,400 That obviously has been rectified and we're we're showing good faith is moving 81 00:06:56,319 --> 00:07:03,120 forward in building the building. The second was the size and dimensions of 82 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:08,400 the swimming pool. Uh there was some changes during CO with the EOS prototype 83 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:15,039 and the prototypical building. So, it is slightly smaller by only a couple of 84 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:19,280 feet, but the the um the intent of the structure is in place, and I feel like 85 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:24,960 we've we've put millions of dollars in good faith into the project uh in 86 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:31,360 participation with the RDA, and would hope that we can agree to a simple 87 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:37,919 amendment that would allow that RDA to perform as it was outlined to do uh 88 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:42,639 initially. Again, we're here as long-term partners with the city. We've 89 00:07:40,319 --> 00:07:46,400 made a very significant investment uh based upon that agreement with the RDA, 90 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:52,080 and I think the end result is going to be very positive. Uh the city's going to 91 00:07:48,319 --> 00:07:57,840 get what they wanted, which is a uh a full service gym and swimming pool and 92 00:07:54,879 --> 00:08:01,759 we're willing to perform. Thank you. Is there anyone else that would like to 93 00:07:59,479 --> 00:08:04,759 address council with public comment tonight? 94 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:13,840 Seeing none, I will close public comment. Item number four, we have uh 95 00:08:10,879 --> 00:08:18,960 five items of uh common consent agenda. The first is proposed resolution 96 00:08:16,039 --> 00:08:22,520 R25-17 authorizing the mayor to inter to execute an interlocal agreement with 97 00:08:20,479 --> 00:08:26,440 Davis County for third-party building inspections. The second is proposed uh 98 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:32,240 resolution R25-18 establishing a temporary free 99 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:38,959 speech zone at Kentterbury Park North. Uh the third is proposed ordinance 100 00:08:36,039 --> 00:08:43,680 2514 amending Syracuse Municipal Code Chapter 101 00:08:40,680 --> 00:08:47,040 4.50.30 pertaining to hardship waiverss for monthly charges for collection of 102 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:53,279 solid waste, green waste and/or recyclable materials. Uh the fourth one 103 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:57,200 is proposed ordinance R25-15 uh amending the Syracuse city code title 104 00:08:55,279 --> 00:09:02,640 7 chapter 25 pertaining to the regulation of fireworks and other 105 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:06,600 ignition sources. And the last one tonight on our common consent agenda is 106 00:09:04,560 --> 00:09:14,720 proposed ordinance 25-16 adopting Syracuse Municipal Code 107 00:09:11,399 --> 00:09:18,720 4.35.225 regarding the new Happy Tales Dog Park. These have all been discussed 108 00:09:16,959 --> 00:09:23,200 in work sessions at great length and found to be uh unanimous support. Is 109 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:30,560 there any that anyone would like to take pull off common consent before we move 110 00:09:27,560 --> 00:09:36,399 forward? Seeing none, I would accept a motion to adopt these five items. 111 00:09:34,399 --> 00:09:42,959 Mr. Mayor, I move that we accept the items on the consent agenda as outlined 112 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:49,680 in on the agenda. Second. Moved and seconded. All in favor? I I any opposed? 113 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:54,399 That passes unanimously as expected. And item number five is consideration of 114 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:59,320 possible action to authorize execution of a proposed development agreement 115 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:04,320 between Syracuse City and Costco Wholesale Corporation. Uh this has been 116 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:08,720 uh something that's gone on for a great deal of time and we just finally have 117 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:13,120 the last uh version of that development agreement. Uh, I will open it up to 118 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:18,000 council if you have any discussion before we consider a possible action 119 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,000 here 120 00:10:21,079 --> 00:10:26,320 tonight. If uh there's no discussion, could I get a 121 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:34,720 motion? Mr. Mr. Mayor, I move that we go ahead and um authorize execution of the 122 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:40,320 proposed development agreement between Syracuse City and Costco Wholesale as 123 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:47,680 listed in the packet. Second. Moved and seconded. All in favor? I. Any opposed? 124 00:10:43,839 --> 00:10:52,800 I. Okay, that passes 4 to one. We'll move on to number six. Authorize 125 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:57,200 administration to award contract to West Averick's corridor aesthetic 126 00:10:54,480 --> 00:11:01,680 improvements project. Uh Steve, thank you for coming forward. This is a 127 00:10:58,959 --> 00:11:06,480 project we've had uh on the books for some time and uh just barely getting 128 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:10,640 through the the holdup's really been uh UD do folks and I just want to be clear 129 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:15,680 about that. the people that we've worked with other outside of UD do have been 130 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:23,120 great to keep on top of this but as you can see we have some budgetary issues 131 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:28,800 and so uh with that um we have to decide uh which options within this bid you 132 00:11:26,079 --> 00:11:31,839 would like to move forward with who would like to start the 133 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:40,640 discussion I will if no one else will and I will say that uh I think it's 134 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:46,160 important that this project was always planned to use UT betterment money that 135 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:52,079 was uh from the West Davis project and to do that we are not going to be able 136 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:59,200 to get the full uh measure of the possible bid. Um I am comfortable 137 00:11:56,079 --> 00:12:04,120 uh cutting the bison not because I don't love them but because they go over 138 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:11,040 budget. I I feel like I feel like with the sod Yeah. I Why aren't we just using 139 00:12:08,959 --> 00:12:15,519 natural? I'm okay with that, too. Yeah. Like, instead of using sod that we have 140 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:20,399 to maintain, why can't I mean, we It's out there with bison. Why would we get I 141 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:24,399 agree with you. What falls under budget is the signs, including the bison and 142 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:30,000 the and the Syracuse side. That is totally in in budget. And I'm I feel 143 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:34,079 like all this extra like it's going to take a lot more extra effort just to 144 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:37,519 keep it maintained rather than just use like natural native plants and wild 145 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:41,360 flowers and things like that which is free from the state if no if you don't 146 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:46,160 know that. Well, and for that reason I would agree entirely with you that the 147 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:52,160 boulders and sod could be cut as well. Um the the real issue is the extra bison 148 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:57,279 uh that would be on the uh left hand side of the exits. So there would still 149 00:12:54,560 --> 00:13:03,519 be the bison by the sign. Yes. The bison by the sign would still continue, but 150 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:08,720 the uh bison on the hillside go over. So if we get rid of the sod, can we get the 151 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:13,120 other bison? Not entirely in budget. If you look at the budget, the outline 152 00:13:10,399 --> 00:13:18,680 would still go over a little bit and the rocks, the boulders, 153 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:23,200 nix. Yeah, that's what I'm suggesting is I agree with that. I think I don't 154 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:26,320 think the sod boulders is necessary. And those the sod would be hard to add 155 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:31,440 later, but the the boulders and the bison could be added at a later date. It 156 00:13:28,079 --> 00:13:36,079 could. It's so pointless that sod it's going to it takes so much to maintain in 157 00:13:33,279 --> 00:13:39,200 that area. And it it the manpower alone that you're going to have to use from 158 00:13:37,279 --> 00:13:42,720 now until we rip it out because everybody's going to get tired of it 159 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:47,360 probably. Look at Roy and Riverdale. They did they pulled theirs out. This 160 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:52,399 the sign and the area around the sign, I think, is the critical part. And I would 161 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:57,040 I would lean towards uh making sure we have the sign at both exits as opposed 162 00:13:54,240 --> 00:14:00,720 to having the bison at the one exit. That's just my Sorry. Which option is 163 00:13:59,199 --> 00:14:05,560 that? Can we pull that up? I like the bison. I think they mean I like that as 164 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:10,399 well. You got behind the bison everywhere. We love them. I 165 00:14:08,399 --> 00:14:14,320 agree with you. It's a matter of what's in budget. We need more bison. Could we 166 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:18,000 pull this up from the packet so that we can look at the And they eat of grass. 167 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:21,279 Agree. so that we can get the actual numbers 168 00:14:19,839 --> 00:14:26,720 because I did not write them down outside of the packet. I can Oh, I got 169 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:31,199 them here, but Okay, you want to talk to that? 170 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:36,240 Yeah, Cassie's pulling it up here. Meadow grass irrigation and including 171 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:43,440 filter control. It's grass. Oh, goodness. So, we would be uh 172 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:49,839 over Yeah. I don't think either of them say like what this so we can afford with 173 00:14:47,199 --> 00:14:56,040 the betterment money the signs without the bison the change is if 174 00:14:53,240 --> 00:15:02,560 you have the 410 bison without the holders we would need 175 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:07,680 76,000 to make up the difference to me that's as far as I would that's without 176 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:12,320 the holders and without saw but keeping the vice keeping the vice I'm and I'm So 177 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:18,399 where are we where are we pulling those funds from then? And if we don't pull 178 00:15:15,839 --> 00:15:23,440 any funds, we eliminate the bison. So because we do have some 179 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:30,560 I do not believe we can use impact fees on this because this would be a freeway. 180 00:15:27,399 --> 00:15:33,040 Yeah, that wouldn't work. This is one of those questionable moments when you know 181 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:36,399 you got to make the right decision because you're like it could be but 182 00:15:34,399 --> 00:15:41,760 we're like no. Well, also you need to do it. Go ahead. Chances are you won't come 183 00:15:39,199 --> 00:15:47,440 back to it. So I think it needs to be done right the first time. I agree. I I 184 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:52,160 agree with that. But I I don't think something that you're promoting like 185 00:15:49,519 --> 00:15:55,839 Analopee Island is a nature reserve. I I feel like the sod and the things it's 186 00:15:54,399 --> 00:16:00,160 just excessive. It's like let's get bougie was our nature reserve. Why? 187 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:05,279 Okay. So can we agree that the sod and boulders are unnecessary? Yes. Okay. I 188 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:11,320 get a sense that that's that's decided. But but even if we just go with the the 189 00:16:07,759 --> 00:16:11,320 extra bison, 190 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:16,240 it's still an additional 70,000. So we have that would be the question. We'd 191 00:16:14,959 --> 00:16:21,360 have to know where we're getting those funds from. Why need boulders? We don't. 192 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:25,519 Well, and isn't that something that could be brought in later? Easier 193 00:16:23,759 --> 00:16:29,680 spaces. There's got to be boulders. We can just have them reload. The boulders 194 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:33,360 can be easier brought in than sculpture. I agree with that. Yeah, Mr. Mayor, I do 195 00:16:32,079 --> 00:16:38,800 have some information about the boulders if you'd like me to share. Yeah, go 196 00:16:35,279 --> 00:16:43,120 ahead, Noah. So, uh, the boulders were a significant amount if you look at the 197 00:16:40,959 --> 00:16:46,240 details of it, but we have been talking with Analope Island. They have a 198 00:16:44,399 --> 00:16:50,240 construction project with their visitor center. There's a possibility that we 199 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:57,040 might be able to get them for free to get some for free. Yes, please. But uh 200 00:16:53,199 --> 00:17:00,800 that would, you know, that might include some creative thinking to be able to 201 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:04,319 save that money since we don't have equipment to transport it. But it's 202 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:07,760 something that could be done after is my point. And we may be able to get them 203 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:13,120 for free. They they actually offered their timbers for the a museum project 204 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:17,120 because they're uh age relevant for what they were doing. So they're really great 205 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:20,880 about reusing stuff and not They've been awesome. Yeah. Really kind. Yeah. I 206 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:26,400 think I like the idea of authentic boulders because as opposed to what? 207 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:33,039 Nonauthentic ones. You're going to mold it out of crepe paper an authentic 208 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:38,640 antelope island boulder. We only use local boulders. Local locally sourced 209 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:43,280 localally locally relevant. So with our natural grass. Let me bring this back. I 210 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:49,120 believe the only real discussion point is whether we do the additional C10 211 00:17:45,679 --> 00:17:53,039 steel bison as were originally designed or not. We do. I feel like we should. 212 00:17:51,039 --> 00:17:56,640 Yes, I feel like we should as well. Where is the money? Where's the money 213 00:17:54,480 --> 00:18:00,480 coming? There they Sorry, just to be clear, you're you're talking about 214 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:06,000 option four or you talking about three without boulders? 215 00:18:03,679 --> 00:18:10,160 Three without boulders. Four sides. Three without boulders and then we find 216 00:18:07,679 --> 00:18:15,360 boulders. Well, three without boulders for now. But but three without boulders 217 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:19,200 still we have to come up with $76,000. That's correct. Where are we getting? So 218 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:24,559 that would be the second part. Question of the hour. Will we take a motion? 219 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:28,400 76,000. Yeah, 220 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:32,320 but they're like these signs are going to be there. That's correct. They are 221 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:37,840 very nice and they have been a theme of our city. Again, we need to have that 222 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:43,039 our welcome signs. So, so the one place I know of was we approved uh 50,000 for 223 00:18:41,039 --> 00:18:47,200 art in the roundabout in front of the fire station if you wanted to make a 224 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:51,760 trade and do this one now and that one later. I feel like that's good 225 00:18:49,679 --> 00:18:58,480 suggestion. It's going to take them a while to put that roundabout in. No, 226 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:03,280 it's really want to put art in there while they're building things or we 227 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:07,600 after. I just wanted to open with it because if we Well, we put it in this 228 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:12,160 budget side. I doubt we'll use it before. Do we have Okay, so let me point 229 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:18,240 of clarification because I know we have money from the bid. Do we actually have 230 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:21,600 money in our budget for that? You're talking about the roundabout, 231 00:19:19,679 --> 00:19:27,679 Steve. Do we actually have money in the city budget? Uh for the pit or for the 232 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:32,880 No, for the city budget. City budget. I don't think we do. um not without all 233 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:37,919 reallocating money. The the probably the best you best source would be our 234 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:42,320 capital projects fund. So it' be use postponing or changing priorities in 235 00:19:39,919 --> 00:19:47,919 that to do my money for the artwork comes from the PID which is not eligible 236 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:53,039 to be moved because that is specific to that property. Yeah, mayor. For the for 237 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:57,440 the roundabout project, um whether the city fronts some of the 238 00:19:55,360 --> 00:20:03,280 money for for design and that sort of thing, um should be reimbursed by the 239 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:08,160 CRA, right? From the from the organization of the PID. So, that would 240 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:13,760 not be eligible to be moved. Different color of money. Yes. you you did 241 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:19,600 previously talk about uh to help you out with the $76,000, you did previous talk 242 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:27,039 about maybe making amendments to um the irrigated meadow grass. Um that 243 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:30,440 would be an option. I feel like that's probably reason you're saying in this 244 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:35,919 bid this right? Mhm. So you're saying option 245 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:42,480 three without boulders and then also take off the irrigation around the signs 246 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:47,679 themselves which we don't know exactly how much that will take off if that will 247 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:52,960 be equal to 76. So if you I mean if we end up using natural prairie grass like 248 00:20:50,799 --> 00:20:57,200 they like that's out on analopee island just 249 00:20:54,480 --> 00:21:01,840 uh that won't that takes care of itself. You don't need to water maintain it. 250 00:20:59,360 --> 00:21:05,120 Yeah. Uh, no. I think we're I think we're talking mainly the grass. Wasn't 251 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:10,000 there going to be grass around the bison? 252 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:13,960 Yes. The the plan includes grass around the bison on the side slope and then it 253 00:21:13,039 --> 00:21:20,240 also includes grass and landscaping around 254 00:21:17,039 --> 00:21:24,960 the sign itself. Sod or it's called biionative sod. It's a native grass. 255 00:21:23,120 --> 00:21:29,120 It's not like Kentucky blue grass that you have to mow. It's it's like 256 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:33,600 wildflower stuff. Okay, you got me there. Awesome. And I think but you lay 257 00:21:30,559 --> 00:21:41,880 it down and you have to fine. It has to be irrigated. Okay. So, let's 258 00:21:38,159 --> 00:21:49,960 let me be clear on option number two. That takes out the sign 259 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:56,200 from that takes the signs off of 2000. But in option three, they're in. 260 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,200 Correct. 261 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:05,600 That That's correct. Okay. because that's I'm feeling like the signs at 262 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:11,080 2000 are more important than the bison because that's another entrance to the 263 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,080 city 264 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:22,480 that No, I don't think so because I I I understand why you say that but we're 265 00:22:18,799 --> 00:22:27,120 kind of catering around this area of of you prefer to have So I feel like if 266 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:32,960 people are coming off of that highway to come in to write in here Costco i.e. 267 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:38,000 Costco um it wants to be welcoming. Okay. So if I understand correctly then 268 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:46,039 let me just be clear then there is an option that we don't do signs at the 269 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:52,760 2000 exit only signs at the antelope interchange without the boulders and the 270 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,760 difference is only $642.50. 271 00:22:53,280 --> 00:23:00,799 Okay. I support that. That's that's close to our budget on the 2000 because 272 00:22:58,559 --> 00:23:04,720 we can always add those later. They could be added later. 273 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,840 They're a little bit smaller than the ones that are going to be at the the 274 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:13,200 Analopee exit to begin with. That's why there's less money. So, but they could 275 00:23:09,919 --> 00:23:19,280 be added later. If we did the Analopee exit in its entirety first and then the 276 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:24,799 2000 exit later to add those signs. If we vote for that now, the difference is 277 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:29,840 $642, which is not that much to find somewhere. 278 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:35,440 Is that what I I support that? Then we just put the the 2,000 on the five-year 279 00:23:33,039 --> 00:23:39,039 plan. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I'd rather do that because we don't have a clear 280 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:42,960 answer on when where we'd come up with six. That makes sense to me. I'm good 281 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:48,480 with that. And then as long as we actually put it on the plan, I I think 282 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:54,960 2000 is going to be changing a lot over the next few years that area get a 283 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:58,559 a see that develop a little bit more before we start putting stuff in. And we 284 00:23:57,120 --> 00:24:04,720 still have a freeway exit that goes right onto 2000 as well. Yeah. Okay. So 285 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:10,559 I guess I'll take a motion to that effect. How are we how Okay. It would be 286 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:15,880 option two without boulders. Okay. I move that we approve Wait a second. 287 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:27,440 Where's the number for it? Uh, this would be just West Davis aesthetic 288 00:24:24,559 --> 00:24:30,240 improvements option two. Okay. Without boulders. That we authorize 289 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:37,279 administration to award contract for West David course corridor aesthetics 290 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:43,200 option two without the boulders. Okay. Without paying for the boulders. 291 00:24:41,039 --> 00:24:46,880 Side note, so that would be a separate project if we could get holders. Is that 292 00:24:45,039 --> 00:24:51,679 correct? Asterric is what you without including in this project bid. Okay. Do 293 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:58,799 I have a second? Second. All right. All in favor? I. Any opposed? Okay, that one 294 00:24:55,760 --> 00:25:02,400 is decided and I am excited to have that go forward. That's I'm excited for the 295 00:25:00,159 --> 00:25:06,720 bison. It'll be nice to have one whole exit area completed. Okay, instead of 296 00:25:05,039 --> 00:25:12,240 little here, a little there. Item number seven is proposed ordinance 25-17 297 00:25:09,919 --> 00:25:19,679 amending the Syracuse city zoning map to approve 1.7 acres of real property 298 00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:25,080 located at 3281 West 700 South. It's currently res or uh zoned as A1 and they 299 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:31,760 would like to move it to R3. Uh this is that uh odd little piece 300 00:25:28,559 --> 00:25:35,600 of property that was a U dot remnant and um this has been discussed before. Is 301 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:38,080 there any further discussion on this particular 302 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:50,159 property? If not, I'll take a motion. I motion that we accept the proposed 303 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:56,600 ordinances 25-17 amending the Syracuse city zoning map for approximately 1.7 304 00:25:52,799 --> 00:26:04,400 acres of real property located at 320 3281 West 700 South Agriculture A1 to 305 00:26:01,279 --> 00:26:09,440 residential R-3 applicant Land and Costley 306 00:26:07,039 --> 00:26:16,159 and do I have a second? Second. All in favor? I I Any opposed? Okay, that 307 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:21,279 motion passes unanimous. Item number eight is part of the shoreline 308 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:27,440 development agreement part 5A and this is in two parts which I believe we can 309 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:31,600 take an action together. Correct? Okay. So this is in two parts and let me 310 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:36,480 explain the two parts. Part A would be taking this one parcel out of the 311 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:43,159 development agreement from the shoreline development phase 5A. Part B would be a 312 00:26:40,799 --> 00:26:49,200 proposed ordinance 25.18 amending the zoning map for 313 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:55,840 approximately 1.5 acres of real property to make that take it out of the RPC zone 314 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:59,919 and move it to A1. This would be a down zone. 315 00:26:57,919 --> 00:27:03,120 This is so nice to finally see this on here. Oh my goodness, this property. 316 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:06,960 We've been waiting for this for a minute and this is this is turning this back 317 00:27:05,039 --> 00:27:12,240 into a horse property. if you if the rest of folks to my left don't know 318 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:16,400 that. Yeah, it's but it's zoning it back too so they can legally have horses on 319 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:20,000 the property and it's correct. Wonderful to see this on here. Fine. Would you 320 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:24,480 like to make a motion then? I would if if nobody else has anything they would 321 00:27:21,279 --> 00:27:28,919 like to Yeah, go ahead. Um, I would like to move that we approve the proposed 322 00:27:26,559 --> 00:27:38,000 amendment to the shoreline da reszone from PR from RPC to A1 and as well as uh 323 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:41,919 the part B to that uh part A was the development came out of the development 324 00:27:39,679 --> 00:27:48,080 agreement and part B is the resone. That's what I said. Okay, then in that 325 00:27:44,559 --> 00:27:54,399 case I'll second. Second. All in favor? I. Any opposed? Okay, that passes 326 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:59,520 unanimously. That property is now A1. Congratulations applicant in the 327 00:27:55,840 --> 00:28:04,080 audience. Good luck to you. Um item number nine, proposed ordinance 25-9 328 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:09,039 amending the Syracuse municipal code chapter 329 00:28:05,559 --> 00:28:09,039 10.75.30 and 330 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:18,159 1030.20e pertaining to planned residential development PD zoning. Noah, 331 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:21,200 can you give us a quick recap of this one? 332 00:28:19,279 --> 00:28:26,559 Uh yeah, the proposal is to be able to put ADUs, accessory dwelling units in 333 00:28:23,919 --> 00:28:33,640 the PRD zone. Planning Commission reviewed it. They're recommending no. Uh 334 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:39,039 we've reviewed it in our work session. Um the applicant is Mike 335 00:28:36,919 --> 00:28:42,559 Bastion. Um but yeah, I don't know if you have any other questions. I'd be 336 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:46,559 happy to answer them. Nope. Um, I'll just begin by saying I think this is a 337 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:52,240 horrible idea and I I hope that we do not make this adjustment. 338 00:28:50,399 --> 00:29:01,039 I do have a couple of questions. What what is the difference between 339 00:28:55,240 --> 00:29:04,399 uh the RPC zone and this zone? Why why is there a difference? 340 00:29:03,279 --> 00:29:10,559 So, one of the biggest difference between the RPC and the PRD zone is the 341 00:29:06,799 --> 00:29:16,559 PRD allows town homes. RPC doesn't. But the uh the RPC does allow a similar 342 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:20,679 housing type than what you're seeing in some of the PRD developments, especially 343 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:27,679 the single family portions of the PRD developments where uh an RPC might have 344 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:32,559 a lot as small as 3500 square ft. And if you read through um the RPC, they do 345 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:37,520 allow ADUs, but the lot has to be bigger than that's in the reports, 5,400 square 346 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:43,440 feet, I think. 52. Thank you. Um, so that's that's part 347 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:49,200 of the logic that the applicants is is asking. You know, I think he's willing 348 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:51,880 to limit the PRD allow if they were if it were allowed into the PRD. I think 349 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:58,640 he's willing to have some qualifi qualifiers on there 350 00:29:55,679 --> 00:30:02,799 like lot size or something like that. But the thing we have to consider as a 351 00:30:00,399 --> 00:30:07,559 city is whether or not there's going to be room for parking and the added people 352 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:12,720 and the overall density of a development. There's some give and take 353 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:16,640 there. The parking is uh set to a threecar garage though based on the 354 00:30:14,399 --> 00:30:21,120 ordinance. Is that right? Yeah, that could be a qualifier or a minimum lot 355 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:26,000 size or both. So I I still don't understand the 356 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:29,919 distinction between property that's quarter mile away or half a mile away. 357 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:33,440 Yeah. Most people when they drive through a development, they don't know 358 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:37,919 what zone it is. And if you're looking at a single family home in an RPC zone 359 00:30:35,679 --> 00:30:42,399 with the third car garage in the ADU that's 5200 ft² or if you're driving 360 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:48,399 through a neighborhood that's zone PRD with the threecar garage on a 5200 foot 361 00:30:46,399 --> 00:30:54,880 that there's no difference in the actual end. But the the difference in a PRD 362 00:30:51,840 --> 00:31:00,720 area, you may have town homes nearby and the overall density may be slightly 363 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:06,399 higher, but the density is simply people. It's not actual structure. I 364 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:11,200 mean, so an accessory dwelling unit is not considered a unit of density per se. 365 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:15,559 There they do add people, but the principal structure is still the unit of 366 00:31:13,799 --> 00:31:22,320 density. Um, if that makes sense. It's a little 367 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:28,840 bit confusing, but um it does add more people. And when we count number of 368 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:34,399 units per acre uh for an overall development, like for example, village 369 00:31:31,919 --> 00:31:37,240 at the bluff, it has town homes and also on the south end, it has some single 370 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:45,039 family lots. The the overall density um is 371 00:31:42,159 --> 00:31:48,399 probably only four or five, which is very similar to RPC. It's just the 372 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:54,320 housing types a little bit different. And then sometimes the town home areas 373 00:31:50,399 --> 00:31:59,519 have more people. And obviously if you were to look just at the density of the 374 00:31:56,399 --> 00:32:05,039 town home area, it's probably closer to, you know, 10 or 12 maybe units per acre, 375 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:09,279 but because of the southern part of it is single family, it lowers the and they 376 00:32:07,679 --> 00:32:14,799 have some open space and stuff, so it lowers the overall units per acre down. 377 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:19,279 So it's all all relative. Most people when they drive through a neighborhood 378 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:23,679 don't look at a neighborhood as a whole what's on the platted subdivision and 379 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:28,320 what zone it is. They usually just kind of determine what they're seeing right 380 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:32,679 in front of them. Is there an inconsistency with the 5200 square feet 381 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:41,200 from the ordinance? And is it 5600 in the RPC? Is 382 00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:47,360 that right? Uh, I'd have to let me I can pull up the 383 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:50,799 I'm just looking at the packet. Yeah. What does it say in the packet? I 384 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:55,080 forget. Agenda item number nine in the summary says ADUs are allowed in an RPC 385 00:32:54,080 --> 00:33:01,440 at 5600 and the ordinances proposed is 386 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:04,720 5200. Oh, okay. Yeah, I would I mean if we were interested in looking at this, I 387 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:10,799 would recommend making them the same just for administrative purposes. 388 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:15,120 I my thinking behind this is I I don't like the inconsistency that's there. So, 389 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:21,200 if they were not changed, I would not go for this. Uh I do think that there is 390 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:29,120 some reasoning behind this. Uh allowing an ADU to a property like this could 391 00:33:24,039 --> 00:33:34,000 allow a family to come in and purchase a property that they would not otherwise 392 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:40,880 be able to purchase. uh that would allow people to come into 393 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:46,240 Syracuse that may not otherwise be uh it may not be open to that and would also 394 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:49,519 provide an additional dwelling unit which would be different from an 395 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:55,360 apartment but a similar kind of arrangement uh without the the issues 396 00:33:52,399 --> 00:34:02,159 that have arisen from the apartments that have come in. you have a a family 397 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:07,600 that owns a a property with potential other people that are there that would 398 00:34:04,159 --> 00:34:15,119 be under the un the oversight of those uh property owners. Uh I don't see how 399 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:21,119 this adds to physical density very much. It may add a person or two to a location 400 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:27,200 which may be there anyway. Uh, I see this as an alternative to apartments. 401 00:34:24,240 --> 00:34:32,960 Uh, that is, at least the reasoning makes sense to me. If the reasoning does 402 00:34:29,599 --> 00:34:36,560 not make sense, I'd like to hear why. I I'll chime in there. Uh, Brett, I I 403 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:41,200 appreciate your reasoning and I understand the logic. Um, I will 404 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:48,000 respectfully disagree on a couple of points. Uh number one, when we have a 405 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:52,320 interioronly access ADU, then that's very hard for any form of deliveries. 406 00:34:50,240 --> 00:34:56,960 They don't have a front door. The second pro property, nobody knows where that 407 00:34:54,480 --> 00:35:01,359 is. It doesn't bear a second address. So that's always a challenge. The other 408 00:34:59,119 --> 00:35:06,880 thing is that in this particular case, the property in question that where the 409 00:35:03,839 --> 00:35:12,880 applicant is referring to uh already gained additional density um that is 410 00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:19,599 already built on the basis that he would not have qualified for that density had 411 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:25,920 this been factored into the equation. So we're giving him additional density 412 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:30,160 after the fact by allowing ADUs. Now the other thing that I would like to point 413 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:37,359 out is while there is a technical allowance for uh the 5600 size lot or 414 00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:42,720 larger in RPCs, we do not have any that were designed uh from the inst or from 415 00:35:39,839 --> 00:35:47,920 the onset as ADUs. It was an allowance that after the fact 416 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:54,400 if somebody wanted to modify a property to have a mother-in-law type apartment 417 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:58,720 within the same dwelling, it would be allowable only if the lot was large 418 00:35:56,240 --> 00:36:04,720 enough for that. Uh I it's never been used and I'm against that option, but it 419 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:08,720 was there. So, I think that more consistency would be to make sure that 420 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:12,800 that never happens in the city because effectively what we're doing is we're 421 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:18,960 creating illegal duplexes. We're creating a duplex apartment for a house 422 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:24,560 for two where they are not authorized because they weren't proposed in the 423 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:29,920 original. Um, this was proposed. This is also the one project where I get the 424 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:35,680 most complaints for dense lots because it has more dense uh buffer zones 425 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:42,400 between houses than we have ever allowed in this city. So, we're already at a 426 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:47,040 higher density. Um and and I feel like we're doubling that with the remaining 427 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:51,520 lots because they've had a hard time selling the lots. I don't think that's 428 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:56,160 the reason to allow an ADU because they struggled to sell the lot at the price 429 00:36:53,359 --> 00:37:01,040 they proposed. Well, and and and I think that it does 430 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:06,880 even though even though you may initially have someone that you know 431 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:10,960 maybe rents out the accessory dwelling unit 432 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:14,240 uh and is the primary occupant when they sell that if it's ever sold to an 433 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:19,680 investor or anything like that like Dave said, it's going to create illegal 434 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:24,160 duplexes and the the already dense PRD, especially with town homes and adding a 435 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:28,480 PRD to a town home is definitely going to is definitely going to cause parking 436 00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:32,480 challenges because if you've got one family unit or, you know, renting the 437 00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:38,240 main unit and then another family unit renting the ADU, you're going to have 438 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:44,560 the potential for more cars that can that can fit on on the property. So, I I 439 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:49,119 mean, I I'm concerned with with the density. We've had an we've had an 440 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:54,720 outcry from citizen citizens that they they want less less density, not more. 441 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:59,599 And so I I I don't see any benefit for us adding more density to a PRD zone. 442 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:04,560 And that may be the case, but I still don't understand the reasoning with a 443 00:38:01,359 --> 00:38:09,560 with a threecar garage. Uh there should be parking that's there. And if we're 444 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:14,720 dealing with ADUs, uh we keep talking about illegal ADUs. 445 00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:19,440 Well, then outlaw them totally because why is that not creating a duplex on any 446 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:24,079 lot where that's allowed? because it's permissible as long as the primary 447 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:28,560 occupant is is in part of the the building. I don't think the ADU gets a 448 00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:32,560 threeU threec car garage also. No, it gets it gets. So, I'm going to I'm going 449 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:37,680 to be Captain Obvious because that's what I'm known for. Have any of you 450 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:44,599 driven through there? Yes. Yes. Okay. So, the thought of allowing any any more 451 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:50,720 vehicles to be piled up in that neighborhood is insane. It is so hard to 452 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:55,119 get through there already at any point of the day, let alone after work when 453 00:38:53,119 --> 00:39:01,200 everybody's coming home or on weekends. It's it's it's a nightmare. It's a 454 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:04,560 nightmare. It I think you you'll see that especially apparent when we get 455 00:39:03,119 --> 00:39:09,000 into snow season. We're telling them none of them can park. Exactly. And it's 456 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:13,480 so dangerous for those kids and at summertimes darting between those cars 457 00:39:11,359 --> 00:39:18,320 and people driving like jerks down those roads. It's a nightmare. And my point, 458 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:24,079 my comment is that I just feel like Syracuse has turned a corner here and we 459 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:30,119 don't want to continue that trend of identity overload. We don't want to keep 460 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:34,599 doing that. Well, I think for me it's I think there will come a day when we'll 461 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:39,280 be looking for more places to put people. I don't think that day is today. 462 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:42,800 Well, and it's not tomorrow either. And remembering what we have coming in the 463 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:46,880 next five years, you know, we're far from that. So, okay. I feel like 464 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:52,640 everybody's had a chance to weigh in. Do I have anyone willing to make a motion? 465 00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:57,200 Yes. Okay. I move that we decline proposed ordinance 25-9 amending 466 00:39:55,200 --> 00:40:00,200 Syracuse Municipal Code Chapter 10.75.030 467 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:08,480 uh pertaining to the planned residential development PRD zone. Second. Moved and 468 00:40:05,119 --> 00:40:14,560 seconded. All in favor? I. Any opposed? Nay. Okay. That will pass or is declined 469 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:20,400 four to one. Item number 10 is proposed ordinance 25-20 repealing and reenacting 470 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:25,520 the Syracuse Municipal Code Title 4 Chapter 30 pertaining to cemetery 471 00:40:23,240 --> 00:40:33,119 regulations. This has been a great deal of discussion on this. Um the logical uh 472 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:37,599 option here is that we totally uh reenact the code uh because there are 473 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:41,599 some significant changes. Uh, do we need to go over those at this time or are we 474 00:40:39,839 --> 00:40:45,920 okay with what we did in the last work session? I mean, are we saying it's the 475 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:49,920 same? I It just wasn't in the packet. All we had was a factual summary. Yeah, 476 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:53,520 we haven't changed from the what was in the work session. There there were two 477 00:40:51,359 --> 00:40:58,880 issues raised in the work session. One was increasing the penalties for second 478 00:40:56,079 --> 00:41:03,280 offenses. That's in there. The other one was that uh Jordan wants to be buried 479 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:07,760 with his clothes on. That's now in there as well. What about me under the tree? 480 00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:12,240 Rude. No. No, Jennifer under the tree. Sorry, I meant this just so you know. 481 00:41:09,599 --> 00:41:17,599 Okay, so I guess my only issue is I didn't get to see it, but I wasn't Okay, 482 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:26,000 I think I would like to actually look at it before I approve it. 483 00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:30,520 Um um I mean I I would I would fully support that. You know that we do have I 484 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:35,599 have a summary of a couple of people considerably uh upset about the 485 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:40,640 management without the Penins. Could we just have somebody read that to those 486 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:43,520 changes to us? Yes. Could I Colin will do that for us? If we could bring those 487 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:48,640 up, I would appreciate just so I can see the changes. 488 00:41:45,839 --> 00:41:53,760 You will agree, Jordan. And I I hope I will. I'm happy to do that. I try not to 489 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:59,200 approve. Go ahead. All right. The the original language on the interament of 490 00:41:56,079 --> 00:42:02,319 human bodies only was to the effect that nothing other than a human body can be 491 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:07,760 buried in the cemetery. Human remains only. Yes. The revised version is only 492 00:42:05,119 --> 00:42:13,440 the remains of human bodies together with burial clothing and accutrants may 493 00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:17,119 be interred in the cemetery. Okay, that was for you. So you can keep your 494 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:21,440 clothes. I appreciate that cuz the other one and what's the violate? What's the 495 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:26,520 what's up in the fee? What's the fee? The increased penalty. The original 496 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:31,280 paragraph said up to $500 for per violation. Now, there is additional 497 00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:36,079 language that says, "For any second or subsequent violation, persons or 498 00:42:33,599 --> 00:42:41,680 companies that violate any provision of this chapter shall be subject to a civil 499 00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:46,720 penalty not to exceed $1,000 per violation, plus the actual costs 500 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:52,160 incurred to by the city to remedy the situation or violation." So, my petty 501 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:56,319 self, okay, just hear me out. I feel like anything that happens to any 502 00:42:54,640 --> 00:43:00,079 headstones by a company should automatically warrant a cleaning bill. 503 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:03,440 Like if you leave any marks on a headstone, 504 00:43:02,079 --> 00:43:06,560 it should automatically warrant a cleaning bill. Well, doesn't it already 505 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:10,079 address that? Because they're responsible for correcting any damage 506 00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:13,040 they caused. Wow. So, we just said there's no surprises. We just said 507 00:43:11,359 --> 00:43:16,400 remediation was only on the second and third offense. 508 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:22,720 That's what I just heard. The first one was 500. 500, but without remediation. 509 00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:27,680 Yeah. up up to 500 for a first violation or a second or subsequent violation up 510 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:32,079 to a thousand. But do they both include any things that have to be fixed? They 511 00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:35,839 both include repairing the damage or paying the cemetery personnel to repair 512 00:43:34,240 --> 00:43:40,960 the damage. Yes. Okay. As long as that isn't both of those. It is because um we 513 00:43:39,359 --> 00:43:46,480 have some damage over there that needs to be repaired. I I have received more 514 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:50,319 pictures yesterday of a different one uh that is damaged. Turns out it was my 515 00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:55,920 uncle also is driven over. Do I have anyone 516 00:43:53,200 --> 00:44:00,319 who's ready to make a motion? Me. Go. I move that we approve proposed ordinance 517 00:43:58,119 --> 00:44:04,400 25-20 repealing and reenacting the Syracuse Municipal Code, Title 4, 518 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:10,960 Chapter 30, Cemetery Regulations and its changes. Do I have a second? Second. All 519 00:44:07,119 --> 00:44:15,280 in favor? Any opposed? That post or that passes unanimously. We now have our 520 00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:18,319 second period of public comment. If anyone would like to bring to our 521 00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:22,280 attention something maybe for a future agenda. Okay. If not, we can uh move 522 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:27,599 into our I don't have the other agenda for 523 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,599 our RDA 524 00:44:27,720 --> 00:44:31,839 meeting. Do I have any public 525 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:43,359 comment? Okay, I will close public comment. And can I get uh Cassie, will 526 00:44:40,319 --> 00:44:48,880 you pull up the agenda for the Thank you. Okay, so we will now move 527 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:54,480 temporarily into our RDA meeting. Uh this is I call this meeting to order. 528 00:44:51,200 --> 00:45:00,400 Can I get uh motion to adopt the agenda? So moved. Second. Second. All in favor? 529 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:05,440 I. Any opposed? Item number two is consideration of a possible action to 530 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:12,240 authorize execution of the proposed interlocal tax sharing agreement between 531 00:45:07,839 --> 00:45:15,760 Syracuse City RDA and the Gateway uh public infrastructure district. PID 532 00:45:14,079 --> 00:45:20,079 number one. uh this would uh this has already been 533 00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:26,680 talked about and in place but it is a formal uh agreement that the RDA will uh 534 00:45:24,240 --> 00:45:32,319 repay the PID. So I I have so many problems with this 535 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:36,640 right now. Um first of all there was no where was this two like where was the 536 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:41,839 conversation two weeks ago when we were discussing this and there wasn't really 537 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:45,760 anybody here with us. Um if you wouldn't have moved forward with this we did our 538 00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:53,280 part. We did our part. You guys moved forward with it because we agreed to 539 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:58,319 terms and the pool having chang this one isn't the pool. This is this one is this 540 00:45:55,520 --> 00:46:02,160 is the P. This is the CRA that we created a few months ago. So this isn't 541 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:05,200 the one we were talking about earlier. Yeah, that that's Oh, you don't want to 542 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:10,400 hear my side of the story. This one. You guys go ahead. Thank you. Mayor, 543 00:46:07,839 --> 00:46:14,319 can I give you a quick update? Yes. The version of the agreement that was in the 544 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:18,160 packet had some bracketed areas. is they were highlighted in yellow. Yes, those 545 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:23,440 have all been resolved. The only two remaining issues are the effective date 546 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:27,920 on the cover page which cannot be determined until the market study is 547 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:32,319 complete and that same date in the text of the agreement. So all of the issues 548 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:35,440 have been resolved. It's now as you saw it but the yellow brackets are missing 549 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:39,760 except for those two things. So this agreement has to be in play council. 550 00:46:37,599 --> 00:46:44,880 this agreement has to be in place so that we can allow that bond to go to 551 00:46:41,839 --> 00:46:50,480 market so that we can proceed. So I would ask that we take a motion to uh to 552 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:56,640 authorize this execution of this agreement that we have been working on 553 00:46:52,079 --> 00:47:05,119 for uh quite some time. So moved. Second. All in favor? I. Any 554 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:10,960 opposed? Okay, that m motion passes 4 to one. Now, the second item on our RDA 555 00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:16,240 agenda is request from Matthew Swain of Perry Commercial to amend the first 556 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:21,920 amendment to the agreement of the tax increment rebate for the EOS gym. And 557 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:26,640 Jen, if you'd like, I'll continue now. Thanks. 558 00:47:23,240 --> 00:47:32,560 Um, talking about how this pool was offbalanced in CO. I was not on the city 559 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:39,119 council when CO hit and we discussed this since I was on the city council. So 560 00:47:35,599 --> 00:47:44,079 co had nothing to do with the pool size. I understand at the last our last 561 00:47:41,599 --> 00:47:49,680 meeting we discussed how there was something brought up that um the 562 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:55,280 developer building the pool said that the other ones were this size and it was 563 00:47:51,839 --> 00:48:00,240 okay there. Well, those other EOS gyms didn't have an agreement with our city 564 00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:05,440 and our city agreed to certain stipulations under a legal binding 565 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:09,200 contract. Nobody showed up beforehand to say, "Hey, there's a little bit of a 566 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:12,640 hold up." It's only after the deadline does anybody care to come forward and 567 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:16,240 say, "Hey, by the way, we didn't make it, but we want you to make an exception 568 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:22,880 for us." And I feel like this is what developers do all the time. And I'm so 569 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:26,319 frustrated over this. It's not hard to communicate. It's not. It isn't. You 570 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:31,200 just pick up a phone, send an email. It's super simple. But the fact that 571 00:48:28,319 --> 00:48:36,559 none of this was communicated until well after it was supposed to be done for me 572 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:40,559 that's ridiculous. And it's and then holding it to us telling us that well we 573 00:48:38,559 --> 00:48:43,359 set up a thing with the city so we are doing great business with the city. I 574 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:48,400 love some of the little shops you have in there. I I patron them frequently but 575 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:53,440 coming to us with this that there's a problem on your end and then trying to 576 00:48:51,359 --> 00:48:58,640 make us seem like it's we're responsible for it. It's a no for me. 577 00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:05,280 Hey, would anyone else like to comment on this? 578 00:49:01,839 --> 00:49:11,040 So I so I'll I'll comment a little bit. So I I understand that there were delays 579 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:16,720 in moving forward and I think that is the portion that probably was impacted 580 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:21,040 by CO because gyms were not allowed to be open and things like that. So there 581 00:49:18,079 --> 00:49:27,839 there was a delay but we addressed that by extending the agreement. We extended 582 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:32,800 it. We set new deadlines. We increased the 583 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:38,640 incentive and then the new deadline was not met and the stipulation of the pool 584 00:49:35,359 --> 00:49:43,920 size was not met as well. And so yeah, I I while again I think Shadow uh 585 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:50,079 Shadowpoint Shopping Center is great. I think it's it's great to have good good 586 00:49:47,119 --> 00:49:55,599 partners in the city, but I also think that we both have to be up we we both 587 00:49:53,440 --> 00:50:01,200 have to uphold our end of the agreement. And I I just don't see that that that 588 00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:06,400 was done in this case. Okay. Anyone else? I mean, I I think they've 589 00:50:04,079 --> 00:50:12,559 largely said it is at the end of the day, contracts matter and words matter. 590 00:50:09,359 --> 00:50:21,000 Um this was reviewed by both parties. It was signed by both parties. I agree that 591 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:25,760 the uh it the part that is as far as building that has largely been 592 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:32,359 remediated. I mean they are definitely out of the ground now and and I love 593 00:50:28,359 --> 00:50:37,680 that. But if I do not see where they have fixed the pool size. I 594 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:43,520 mean, the reason why we kind of went into that was to allow 595 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:47,520 um hopefully some of our student athletes, we don't have a pool for them 596 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:53,040 in the city. This what we are trying to get at least somewhat of a a regulation 597 00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:57,000 size pool in there to to fulfill a public need for which we are spending 598 00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:00,760 public dollars to 599 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:06,319 to incentivize and that need was not met 600 00:51:04,319 --> 00:51:12,559 and and it is I've never even heard someone make an offer to change it. It's 601 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:17,359 probably too late at this point. Um, we've tried to be upfront, but at the 602 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:24,400 end of the day, the agreement was not upheld by the end of the recipient. I I 603 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:28,160 I guess I I I wish I could go back and say, well, I didn't really look at this 604 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:31,040 part of the agreement or I didn't like this part of the agreement, so I just 605 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:37,040 didn't do it. That that would not hold up in any court of law that I know of. 606 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:43,359 And so, I'm just going to say at the end of the day, words matter. And in this 607 00:51:39,839 --> 00:51:48,000 case, the words were the the the stipulations and the other words were 608 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:51,599 the signatures. It's just a great disappointment. I feel 609 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:54,960 like the reduction in the pool size has to do with wear and tear on the pool and 610 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:59,440 to discourage the high schoolers from using the pool. I think it's a it's it's 611 00:51:57,599 --> 00:52:03,400 sad for our city that that that didn't happen. It was promised. 612 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:09,760 Any thoughts, Brit? I I guess I have two concerns. one it's already been raised 613 00:52:07,359 --> 00:52:14,240 is the notice issue. Um this is something that may have been able to be 614 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:19,040 addressed had we known beforehand. The second one which is even more 615 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:22,800 challenging for me is is that if we go back after the fact and and make 616 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:26,240 adjustments that sets a course of dealing from the for the city in my 617 00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:33,200 opinion where it would be hard for somebody else had they had somebody come 618 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:39,599 in in the future and uh if a similar situation arose where uh different terms 619 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:43,359 had been reached or different um performance had been done, they could 620 00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:48,240 point to another situation and say, "Well, you did it here or you did it 621 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:53,040 here. Um I feel a bit constrained even though some of this may be minor, some 622 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:57,440 of it may not. I don't like the the precedent that is being set moving 623 00:52:54,880 --> 00:53:01,960 forward. So that's my opinion. Uh having heard from all the council, can I get a 624 00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,960 motion? 625 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:12,240 I move um that we deny the request for the first amendment to uh 626 00:53:10,240 --> 00:53:17,200 agreement for tax increment rebate for the EOS gym facility. 627 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:24,880 Second. Moved and seconded. All in favor? I. Any opposed? That passes 628 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:31,040 unanimously. No. Well, it's denied. It was the motion. So that Okay. Uh item uh 629 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:35,599 number four is to adjourn from the RDA meeting. I will now adjourn us from that 630 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:42,079 meeting and resume with our regular business meeting. At this time we have 631 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:45,680 uh mayor and council announcements. Um I'll start with you Brett. Do you have 632 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:51,520 anything for us tonight? Nothing for me. Thank you. Okay. Gosh, I don't have my 633 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:56,480 We've been doing great work with the CTC and um addiction recovery and 634 00:53:54,400 --> 00:54:02,000 prevention. Yeah. Okay. Well, nothing from me, 635 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:11,280 Jordan. Yes, I have something. Go ahead. Finally. Um, so coming up in April on 636 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:18,960 the 26th, we will be having our annual disaster preparedness exercise at 8:00 637 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:22,400 a.m. We are asking. You already laughed. Well, because you schedule a disaster 638 00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:25,839 and I really think that's a little funny. I I sleep through stuff like 639 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:33,040 that. I'm sleeping through this. So anyway, so we will be having a a um 640 00:54:30,079 --> 00:54:39,760 disaster scenario where we are going to have uh red envelopes strategically 641 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:44,800 placed throughout the the city. Every district will have a red envelope with 642 00:54:42,319 --> 00:54:50,000 some puzzle pieces in it and we are going to see which districts can find 643 00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:54,880 all the red envelopes in their district areas and put the puzzle together. Uh 644 00:54:53,280 --> 00:55:00,480 what we are hoping to do by this assessment is first of all practice uh 645 00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:05,599 the rapid disaster assessment program uh also known as ARDAP. We are also trying 646 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:10,720 to work on the communications so that in the event of a real disaster and instead 647 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:15,920 of red envelopes we have you know fires or injured persons. We want to be able 648 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:19,839 to assess those areas get that data get them to the people who can communicate 649 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:24,480 it to city so in a disaster we know how to allocate our resources. Um, that's 650 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:28,880 really the critical part here. So, super excited. We ask everyone please 651 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:32,359 participate. We will also be testing out our Everbridge program, also known as 652 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:37,760 reverse 911. Uh, a call out will be going out 653 00:55:35,359 --> 00:55:42,319 the night before. So, uh, listen for that. If you don't get that call out, it 654 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:45,680 means either you're not registered or your information is incorrect. So, if 655 00:55:44,319 --> 00:55:49,280 you don't get that call out, please double check that information to make 656 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:55,359 sure that the next one we do, well, hopefully not a disaster. um you will 657 00:55:52,640 --> 00:56:01,040 get and have the information necessary. Uh there is also a post online as part 658 00:55:58,240 --> 00:56:04,720 of the city newsletter uh for all this information. Go ahead and take a look at 659 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:09,440 that. It is there as well. So super excited to do this and as a city we we 660 00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:13,280 are always trying to plan for the future and this is part of that. Make sure we 661 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:20,160 have one. Great. Thank you. Thank you. Um I got a 662 00:56:17,119 --> 00:56:24,400 couple things. So, the CTC had a they were invited to the police department to 663 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:28,160 do a mental health class there for the police officers and some of Clarefield's 664 00:56:26,559 --> 00:56:32,640 people came and I got to attend that and it was wonderful and amazing and they do 665 00:56:30,559 --> 00:56:36,400 great things and I love that our police are starting to f like they're putting a 666 00:56:34,559 --> 00:56:40,920 lot more focus on their mental health. Um, so your mental health has improved 667 00:56:38,559 --> 00:56:47,440 as well. No, but that's that's irrelevant. Um but um 668 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:51,839 and the other thing was I have been stopping in some of our cute little new 669 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:55,839 stores here in Syracuse. And before I offended you, sir, like I said, there is 670 00:56:54,000 --> 00:57:00,000 many adorable little places that I frequent in that parking lot. And 671 00:56:57,839 --> 00:57:04,079 there's a cute little solstice store. So if your wife's like tea tasting, they do 672 00:57:02,720 --> 00:57:07,920 that there. And that's the only place in Syracuse that really does it. So send 673 00:57:06,319 --> 00:57:11,599 your wife on a little ladies night. They do that there. It's so wonderful. Um and 674 00:57:10,240 --> 00:57:15,440 there's a couple other And I went to Morty's just recently. If you haven't 675 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:20,799 been there, go there. It's delicious. Thood crearyy is always on point. Yep. 676 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:23,920 Um Oh, in Old School, they have some great stuff going on there. Those are 677 00:57:22,079 --> 00:57:28,640 just the places I frequented lately. The only issue I have with Thood Crearyy is 678 00:57:25,839 --> 00:57:32,640 it's on my regular walking route and I'm not losing weight anymore. So, just so 679 00:57:30,319 --> 00:57:37,920 you guys know, I I set up a thing. So, if you are ever around on Thursdays, 680 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:41,680 stop by Thood Goods at 3 and I'll be there. You can come hang out, have a 681 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:46,079 conversation, and an ice cream. So, yeah. that. And um the dog park, the I 682 00:57:44,799 --> 00:57:51,520 keep getting questions about that. The grass is still not rooted in, folks. So, 683 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:55,040 you can't go there yet. Um but when it does open, again, my apologies to the 684 00:57:53,200 --> 00:58:00,319 police department. Good luck on that. Uh that's all I got, though. Okay. Uh I 685 00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:06,160 will draw your attention to the fact that I sent an email today after I uh 686 00:58:03,839 --> 00:58:10,240 attended a meeting with Wasatch Front Regional Council. Uh a couple of details 687 00:58:08,559 --> 00:58:16,720 from that meeting. I'll just let you read the real details, but it addressed 688 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:22,319 the Analopee uh bike trail and in that meeting. So, that's an update and uh 689 00:58:19,359 --> 00:58:25,680 also a note in there regarding uh possible alternative funding for parks 690 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:30,720 that I've been working on for about a year now and got some real traction with 691 00:58:28,319 --> 00:58:36,119 that committee. So, still working on other ways that we can improve the city 692 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:41,520 without uh using our own funds in every opportunity. 693 00:58:38,839 --> 00:58:46,000 Um, I want to draw your attention to the fact that we will have our budget 694 00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:52,799 meeting on Friday. So, hope you're all going to be there. It be overly 695 00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:57,280 exciting. And um, other than that, I will take a motion to adjurnn. So, 696 00:58:54,799 --> 00:59:03,680 moved. Second. Second. Moved and seconded. All in favor? I. Any opposed? 697 00:59:00,799 --> 00:59:07,920 We are adjourned right before 7. That's awesome. So, our budget meeting will 698 00:59:05,359 --> 00:59:13,280 start at 9. 9:30. It was 8:30. Huh? The appointment at 699 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:17,200 8:30. My agenda said 9:30. You know, I was 700 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:21,440 wondering where all of our city managers were at, all of our department heads, 701 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:30,119 and then you guys all popped in at once. It is 9:30. Okay. 702 00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:30,119 All right. I know. 703 00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:42,920 So, I looked in the says 8:30. The agenda says 9:30. They 704 00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:42,920 need to Yeah. Yeah. 705 00:59:46,799 --> 00:59:50,200 So, it's 9:30. 706 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,319 You 707 00:59:59,079 --> 01:00:02,799 guys need some