1 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:09,440 uh good good evening everyone I am recording this so that those that cannot 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:14,639 attend will be able to watch the copy of the video when it gets posted online um 3 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:18,880 my name is Ben seiden I'm the vice president here at Le Burge group and 4 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:22,760 we're holding an informal public meeting this evening it's really a public 5 00:00:20,519 --> 00:00:28,080 information meeting about the uh Village dissolution study and plan if you recall 6 00:00:26,119 --> 00:00:32,599 at our initial meeting we had discussed having two meetings during the process 7 00:00:30,439 --> 00:00:37,160 one at the beginning and one at the end uh in order to afford a more opportunity 8 00:00:34,719 --> 00:00:40,960 to discuss the project and answer questions that may have Arisen during 9 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:44,760 the process we have offered to have and Host this additional meeting this 10 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:48,920 evening this is not an official village board meeting it's a project information 11 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:54,359 meeting I'm going to ask that you all mute yourselves for now and there's a 12 00:00:52,039 --> 00:00:59,680 few things we'll go over as we go along again my name is Ben siden and with me 13 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:04,280 tonight is Kathleen Rooney and Lucy stes from 14 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:08,720 team so what I'm going to do is share my screen so you all can see a copy of a 15 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:13,479 PowerPoint presentation uh we'll go through the PowerPoint it'll take some 16 00:01:10,439 --> 00:01:17,920 time so those of you that are standing at Village Hall please find a seat and 17 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:21,960 get relaxed uh those of you that are home at your home computer or in your 18 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:24,400 living room uh thank you for inviting us into your 19 00:01:26,119 --> 00:01:31,600 house as I mentioned you may you may have met us before back at the village 20 00:01:29,960 --> 00:01:36,000 call my name is Ben siden Kathleen Rooney is here uh we have been working 21 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:40,360 diligently with the village and the town uh to develop a study and plan so that 22 00:01:38,399 --> 00:01:44,799 you all have as much information as possible uh should a referendum come 23 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:49,159 forward to make your decision how to move forward what we're going to be 24 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:52,360 going over this evening is a little bit about the meeting we're going to thank 25 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:56,759 the village board and town board but we're really going to spend time talking 26 00:01:53,920 --> 00:02:01,719 about what a a board initiative process is uh how disolution may affect you as 27 00:01:59,960 --> 00:02:06,159 residents both in governance and services answer questions on the fiscal 28 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:11,319 side as to what happens to your village assets and liabilities uh discuss what 29 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:14,840 may happen to your village laws and understand for you all what the fiscal 30 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:19,360 impact of potential dissolution is with you at that point we're going to open up 31 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:24,239 uh to public comments questions and answers and along that line because we 32 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:29,120 are doing a meeting uh online and in person we're going to ask questions to 33 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:32,480 be put into the chat box uh as you go through the as to go through the evening 34 00:02:30,959 --> 00:02:37,519 and we're going to answer those as well as those in public at the Village Hall 35 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:42,000 back and forth uh should you be at the village hall or on in person we're going 36 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:46,200 to try to limit those questions to new questions so listen carefully to both 37 00:02:44,519 --> 00:02:50,200 the presentation and to the people before you to make sure or to see if 38 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:54,239 your questions already been answered I do want to give a shout out to the 39 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:57,640 community and thank you all you provided numerous questions already on our 40 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:02,200 website through the public comment section uh we did our best to respond 41 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:07,280 respond to as many as we can I do want to point out that we've developed a very 42 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:10,640 thorough presentation which is different than what we had thought about when we 43 00:03:08,599 --> 00:03:15,560 envisioned today's meeting I had originally envisioned today simply being 44 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:21,040 a Q&A process uh but by developing this presentation we believe we've answered 45 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:25,400 probably 75 to 80% of your questions so far uh so at the completion or the end 46 00:03:23,599 --> 00:03:30,319 of the presentation should you still have questions again please use the chat 47 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:35,760 box and or if you're in public sign up with Robin and we'll go through 48 00:03:32,599 --> 00:03:38,920 the process oneon-one uh I do want to let you know that as I'm giving the 49 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:43,480 presentation I won't be looking at the chat box uh Lucy will be with us for 50 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:48,439 about 20 more minutes half hour so she may be able to uh but we will go through 51 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:52,959 those chat questions at the end of the presentation if we run out of time 52 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:57,599 during uh the next two hours if there are additional questions please feel 53 00:03:54,840 --> 00:04:02,000 free to continue to use the uh question and comment online I do get the 54 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,519 and I respond to as many as I can throughout the 55 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:13,680 week so to begin with we always want to thank uh the village of Tannersville and 56 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:17,239 the town Hunter boards uh as well as all your staff that have worked with us over 57 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:22,320 the last four months to provide Insight information and data so we can do what 58 00:04:19,840 --> 00:04:26,320 we do which is provide an unbiased uh informational guideline and dissolution 59 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:29,960 plan so that you have that information to make your decisions it's a daunting 60 00:04:28,479 --> 00:04:34,240 process I do want to give that that thank you to all the elected officials 61 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:37,919 and the staff because they have to do this work on top of their everyday work 62 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:41,759 and I understand that time commitment that it takes for you and I want to let 63 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:46,000 you know that we appreciate your efforts on behalf of the 64 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:49,400 residents so some of you may not have been or some of you may have been at the 65 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:54,759 first meeting but everyone that's joined us so far already knows that there is 66 00:04:52,039 --> 00:04:59,199 effort underway um a village board initiative process to begin discussing a 67 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:04,240 dissolution plan but what is a dissolution plan and disolution plan 68 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:09,759 addresses all the legal requirements outlined in article 17A of the New York 69 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:17,280 state general Municipal law uh back in 2010 Governor CUO created a new New York 70 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:22,880 law and that lays out what has to occur both in a citizen initiated process and 71 00:05:20,039 --> 00:05:27,880 in a board initiated process but in this process here uh prior to the referendum 72 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:32,960 a dissolution plan will provide you the residents with information how affect 73 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:36,720 you it discusses and lays out the impact on governance and representation the 74 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:41,080 future condition and provision of services what could be the potential 75 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:45,080 estimated impact on your taxes at the end of the day what we're going to do 76 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:48,800 with not we but what the village is going to do with their assets and 77 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:53,440 liabilities and how that'll be carried on post dis solution uh there's has to 78 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:57,680 be a section in the document that reviews the impact of existing Village 79 00:05:55,560 --> 00:06:02,000 local laws and the codes that are on the books today and what's going to happen 80 00:05:59,639 --> 00:06:05,840 into those laws over the next two years post dissolution it's also going to 81 00:06:04,039 --> 00:06:10,520 discuss the potential transfer or elimination of positions and finally has 82 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:14,520 to have both the date of dissolution as proposed and the cost of that 83 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:18,639 dissolution now we pointed this out before but it is part of the process 84 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:22,319 that while this plan is The Village's plan and it would be voted on by the 85 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:27,599 village board and potentially a referendum the post dissolution plan is 86 00:06:24,840 --> 00:06:31,960 not binding on the town so the town participates throughout the process 87 00:06:29,599 --> 00:06:36,800 they're not required to do anything in that plan post dis solution but this 88 00:06:34,919 --> 00:06:41,120 plan does lay out The Village's wishes what's going to happen to its assets 89 00:06:38,479 --> 00:06:45,720 liabilities laws and governance and because the town was part of the process 90 00:06:42,840 --> 00:06:49,440 we hope that should this go forward that the plan as voted on will be enacted 91 00:06:48,199 --> 00:06:54,560 going forward we mentioned before and I want 92 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:59,960 to mention again because article 17A does lay out uh two different uh types 93 00:06:57,759 --> 00:07:05,360 of government reorganizations one is a village dissolution and the 94 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:10,240 other is a consolidation in a dissolution you only the village 95 00:07:07,639 --> 00:07:14,479 residents vote uh it terminates the village and the plan is developed by the 96 00:07:12,599 --> 00:07:19,199 village the town government again does not have to adhere to it and the town 97 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:23,879 government makes all decisions in the consolidation both a village and the 98 00:07:21,319 --> 00:07:27,479 town vote meaning that residents in the village vote and residents in the town 99 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:32,360 vote again if you recall in a dissolution only Village voters vote 100 00:07:30,039 --> 00:07:37,160 but a consolidation both vote in addition it is not a plan that's created 101 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:42,039 in in consolidation it's a negotiated consolidation agreement that both boards 102 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:46,560 adhere to as well going forward and the end result of a consolidation is still 103 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:51,360 uh the ending of a village but it's a different process we want to we just 104 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:54,800 point that out for you to know as anyone that's going to go back and look at 105 00:07:52,479 --> 00:07:58,919 article 17A will see is both a dissolution and a consolidation often 106 00:07:56,639 --> 00:08:02,879 there are questions as to what is one or the other 107 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:07,240 in a board initiated dissolution planning process uh it's a little bit 108 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:12,080 different than a citizen initiated process in the citizen initiative 109 00:08:09,479 --> 00:08:16,840 process you lock into a timeline that is 10 days to certify the petition 30 days 110 00:08:14,879 --> 00:08:21,960 to call a meeting to have the vote and the vote is 60 to 90 days and you're not 111 00:08:19,639 --> 00:08:27,680 required to have a plan before you vote in a board initia process there's not a 112 00:08:24,159 --> 00:08:32,479 timeline it allows you to do the uh data analysis and preparation of important 113 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:37,839 plan and you required to have a plan before you vote it's a it's a very 114 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:42,519 critical difference between the two one is a quick requirement that requires to 115 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:46,600 vote without a plan and one requires a vote with a plan so a board initiated 116 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:50,399 process which which is the way the village has decided to go provides the 117 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:54,320 village residents and the town government Village government 118 00:08:51,560 --> 00:08:58,279 opportunity to clearly and cooperatively and collaboratively develop a plan and 119 00:08:56,680 --> 00:09:03,320 then get that information out to you the residents in a non Rush format and then 120 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:07,760 allows you to have time to digest that information prior to a potential vote so 121 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:13,120 the process that we are where we are right now is we already developed and 122 00:09:10,079 --> 00:09:16,399 collected the the data we've interviewed and developed and worked with your 123 00:09:14,519 --> 00:09:20,079 stakeholder groups we've studied the impact of dissolution and we've 124 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:25,600 developed a draft study document and provided our work product to the village 125 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:29,880 board uh over the next week that report will be provided out to the public for 126 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:34,720 your digestion and we do it this way so we can explain the process the data 127 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,680 everything that we're doing to develop the plan and then you're able to read 128 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:41,720 the plan with that knowledge as to how it was 129 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:45,760 created uh once we uh release the plan and after tonight uh the village board 130 00:09:43,680 --> 00:09:51,160 will have time uh to review that document and then they will then endorse 131 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:54,839 the plan if they want to uh then hold a public hearing on the plan which is 132 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:59,000 required and then they'll revise the plan as necessary and then they have the 133 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:02,920 decision at that point to stop the process 134 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:08,839 or to amend the plan adopted as final and set a referendum date on a timeline 135 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:13,160 here's your timeline it began back in February February 12th when the village 136 00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:18,519 board voted to explore the process of dissolution uh in April uh 14th they 137 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:21,920 held their first informational meeting a and then now in August we're having a 138 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:27,240 second informational meeting between April 14th and August now it's August 139 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:31,560 20th we developed a draft plan collaboratively uh with the village 140 00:10:28,959 --> 00:10:36,279 board with the town board with the state Co and those that are actually providing 141 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:41,440 those services on a day-to-day basis um September 12th is is the date uh the 142 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:46,760 village board will potentially endorse or review that proposed plan uh should 143 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:50,120 they endorse the plan the earliest day that they can have a public presentation 144 00:10:48,639 --> 00:10:54,600 and a public hearing the plan will be November 145 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:59,680 4th um November 12th then uh they will either vote to stop the process uh or 146 00:10:57,519 --> 00:11:04,480 continue the process forward towards referendum because the village elections 147 00:11:01,959 --> 00:11:10,079 are conducted by the county uh the county will be impounding their U voting 148 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:15,320 booths after the general election the county has given us a date of January 149 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:20,320 14th as a preliminary date should the village choose to go forward with the 150 00:11:17,560 --> 00:11:25,120 referendum and in our plan and in our discussion back in April we pick 151 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:28,720 December 31st as the proposed date should there be a dissolution that it 152 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:33,240 goes through and we chose that date to give the vill and the town an 153 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:37,120 opportunity to actually close down a village government ramp up town 154 00:11:35,079 --> 00:11:43,560 government create the districts that are required do the transfer of the accounts 155 00:11:40,399 --> 00:11:48,040 um develop those executing executor uh documents that were transferring all the 156 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:53,399 grants from the village to the town uh the close out the separation of the 157 00:11:50,560 --> 00:11:58,639 assets meaning the sale of those assets or the transfer those assets and the 158 00:11:55,079 --> 00:12:03,440 covering those liabilities um often uh people forget how difficult Village 159 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:08,200 government is to actually do and we always choose as long as you can to be 160 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:12,000 in to be in the process of that implementation so you're not slamming it 161 00:12:10,279 --> 00:12:16,959 in three months that being said uh this was a 162 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:20,000 locally driven planning process we had oversight from the mayor the deputy 163 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:25,600 mayor and and Village Clerk and Treasurer uh we had two separate work 164 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:30,480 groups one was a public works work Group which covered water Wastewater and DPW 165 00:12:28,639 --> 00:12:34,720 and the like and one was land Ed to cover the planning zoning and codes uh 166 00:12:32,959 --> 00:12:38,480 we had representation both the village and the town on both of those work 167 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:44,000 groups because we really had to understand what they do today and how it 168 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:48,240 can be provided tomorrow uh the process of a village dissolution as you know 169 00:12:46,079 --> 00:12:51,880 focuses on the services that you have today the people that are doing those 170 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:57,639 Services The Village identity Village laws codes planning so the question 171 00:12:55,000 --> 00:13:01,279 isn't so much just simply know what happens with this solution it's happens 172 00:12:59,560 --> 00:13:05,839 post this solution how that can be provided and how those Services can be 173 00:13:03,560 --> 00:13:10,360 provided uh we provided the opportunity for Community stakeholder input 174 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:15,320 throughout uh via the website uh and public engagement input and feedback and 175 00:13:13,079 --> 00:13:20,120 we were trying to use the website as the methodology uh for providing feedback so 176 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:24,880 everyone has an opportunity to ask questions and to review those questions 177 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:29,360 and provide the same answer to everyone the planning process again 178 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:34,920 during the work groups I'll review the data and provide analysis we proposed a 179 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:38,760 a preferred post dissolution framework for those Services discussed those 180 00:13:36,560 --> 00:13:42,720 different models for providing Services once the town has to provide those 181 00:13:40,680 --> 00:13:46,839 services in other words who would be providing them how would they provide 182 00:13:44,959 --> 00:13:52,560 them what would the organization look like uh the work groups didn't provide 183 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:57,199 input on Staffing and resources needed uh we strategize together on approaches 184 00:13:54,680 --> 00:14:02,959 for integration of local laws and uh land use how we're going to create those 185 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:08,639 boards and de develop those equipment processes we also looked at framing the 186 00:14:05,639 --> 00:14:12,440 options to support the transition we also spoke to key 187 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:16,079 stakeholders and figured out the provision of data and information they 188 00:14:14,519 --> 00:14:20,360 participated in many interviews and provided ongoing input and feedback and 189 00:14:17,959 --> 00:14:26,120 support and identifi the key issues that we needed to understand as we develop 190 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:30,560 this process uh finally the report that will be provided and discussed today 191 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:35,920 does provide what look like this is not a uh a dissolution plan in this process 192 00:14:33,279 --> 00:14:41,399 in a board initiative process is not a should we or shouldn't we dissolve it is 193 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:44,560 if you dissolve what's the plan for that dissolution and if the village decides 194 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:48,040 to go forward with the vote so vote on that plan and a vote on 195 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:53,880 dissolution uh we work closely with the uh with the process in the community so 196 00:14:52,399 --> 00:14:57,680 we want to make sure that we proactively address concerns there are many concerns 197 00:14:56,040 --> 00:15:02,160 you know from the first public meeting we want to share the facts and spell 198 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:05,839 misconceptions about a a government takeover uh we want to answer questions 199 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:09,880 and we want to make sure that that was the first step towards building 200 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:14,040 consensus and finding common ground and we was it really a learning process for 201 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:19,120 us as the Consultants to understand what was happening in the community uh why 202 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:23,959 this process was becoming and discuss from there uh any solutions that occur 203 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:28,519 the website was was available to everyone to ask 204 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:32,880 questions it was provided and updated regularly as we could primarily every 205 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:37,240 other week on Fridays so there are a number of key 206 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:42,000 issues and touch points that came up uh during the questions and answers uh 207 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:45,920 during the initial meeting uh and during the comment section most of it was sent 208 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:49,519 around representation and voice in government a village versus a town it 209 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:53,319 was also discussed that we had to make sure that should the village dissolve 210 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:59,160 into the town that the village identity was still secured and protected a lot of 211 00:15:56,639 --> 00:16:03,199 questions came up during and surrounding critical services and what's going to 212 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:08,800 happen to our water what's going to happen to our water rates what's going 213 00:16:05,199 --> 00:16:12,319 to happen to our DPW sorry not DPW D sewer services will it still be 214 00:16:10,639 --> 00:16:16,319 continued with the city honor its current agreement with the village and 215 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:20,199 the town who's going to take care of the snow plowing of roads and sidewalks 216 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:24,279 there's all there's also a number of questions during the process on the 217 00:16:22,959 --> 00:16:27,680 community development of Grants that's already been undertaken by the village 218 00:16:26,399 --> 00:16:32,199 and what's going to happen to the downtown revitalization initiative and 219 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:35,199 all the different uh Department of State parks and recreation grants you 220 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:40,160 currently have on lakefront and Beach Improvement projects who's going to 221 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:44,199 maintain our village Parks uh who's going to continue to invest in our water 222 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:48,440 system and what kind of commitment would there be by the town to continue to seek 223 00:16:46,639 --> 00:16:52,639 grants that the villain was doing already for the people and folks within 224 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:57,560 its boundaries there are questions and comments about Village zoning and 225 00:16:54,920 --> 00:17:01,759 quality of life and the laws and there's a very big push on how going to protect 226 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:06,319 the village assets from vill residents and taxpayers uh so we hope that 227 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:10,439 throughout this process of the next of the rest of the presentation we'll be 228 00:17:07,799 --> 00:17:15,880 able to answer most most of those questions and comments as we go 229 00:17:13,120 --> 00:17:22,760 forward so at the beginning we have to understand how will this solution impact 230 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,760 our services our governance and our 231 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:33,160 processes uh number one is governance how will the proposed this solution 232 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:37,559 impact who and how decisions are made related to The Village services and we 233 00:17:35,360 --> 00:17:41,840 want to look at a couple things here I think I missed a slide let me go back no 234 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:45,880 I did so when we talk about Village dissolution we talk to community 235 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:49,840 residents we talk to you about what this all means to you you may have heard me 236 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:56,880 say at the first meeting you have to make a decision for yourself as to does 237 00:17:53,880 --> 00:18:02,200 this solution make sense or sense does this solution make sense with an s 238 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:07,000 because it f it makes sense governance wise and doesn't make sense fiscally 239 00:18:04,799 --> 00:18:10,880 will I save money and if I save money how much is that and is what's that 240 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:15,360 Worth to me you know what's the balancing uh between sense or sense so 241 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:20,520 on governance you individually every voter has to decide you how will a 242 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:25,480 dissolution impact you individually how will decisions be made according to or 243 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:29,520 related to your services and codes fiscally you want to understand will 244 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:35,400 this reduce my costs now or in the future and with Services uh will the 245 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:39,760 services continue to be Prov to be provided to me who will be doing will 246 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:43,919 they be improved will they not be improved will they be more effective and 247 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:47,440 efficient who's going to take care of my zoning Town doesn't have zoning right 248 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:52,520 now how what's going to happen in my zoning and will they maintain or change 249 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:57,720 my quality of life that that's all part of uh the this your discussion and your 250 00:18:55,440 --> 00:19:02,760 internalization of disolution as you learn about the information that we're 251 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:07,520 providing tonight um we're not voting as the Consultants it's not our decision 252 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:11,280 whether or not you dissolve or stay a community all we're supposed to be doing 253 00:19:09,679 --> 00:19:15,320 is giving you the information so that you can make an informed decision uh 254 00:19:14,039 --> 00:19:20,080 whether or not you want to vote for disolution as you go 255 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:26,000 forward with representation and governance post this solution uh it 256 00:19:23,360 --> 00:19:29,240 would would eliminate the village board if you dissolve The Village mayor and 257 00:19:27,919 --> 00:19:34,520 board of trustee who are right now elected just by you 258 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:39,320 and for you and represent you and set policy for the village will no longer be 259 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:44,200 there post this solution the town board will be responsible for all decisions 260 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:48,400 made townwide including the area forly known as the village and that's a key 261 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:51,880 point for you all to understand that should you vote to dissolve the 262 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:56,679 government you're dissolving the governance that's the village board 263 00:19:54,440 --> 00:20:02,039 that's uh the laws and that make up the community uh right now you have a sole 264 00:19:59,919 --> 00:20:08,280 input on your village your village decisions um your village board makes up 265 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:12,799 100% of decisions and your village electorate is who puts them into 266 00:20:10,679 --> 00:20:17,360 Power if you dissolve you have to recognize that Village voters only make 267 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:24,640 up 20% the townwide elector meaning that you're now only 20% of the U voice in 268 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:28,159 government versus 100% in the village there are 269 00:20:25,559 --> 00:20:34,080 395 registered voters in the village and a little over 2,000 uh in the town so 270 00:20:30,679 --> 00:20:39,480 your voice may be smaller in a town government whereas right now again you 271 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:43,360 elect solely for your own governance a village board however it's important to 272 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:47,760 understand that there's a long-term sustainability issue with small 273 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:52,000 governments in New York Cate it is not a KN it is not a prop we're not saying 274 00:20:49,919 --> 00:20:55,679 good or bad but we have to let people know that in smaller governments there 275 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:59,640 are some challenges for capacity building are there's challenges getting 276 00:20:57,799 --> 00:21:03,360 people to run for office there's challenge in getting people to work in 277 00:21:01,159 --> 00:21:08,120 the government whereas in a larger government in a town of your size it may 278 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:12,640 be easier to get more volunteers or staff or those willing to take on the 279 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:17,039 role of an elected official the town Hunter has a larger population larger 280 00:21:14,679 --> 00:21:21,120 tax base and and more resources and combining governments could result in a 281 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:26,200 stronger organizational structure but I can't say yes or no all we can let you 282 00:21:23,360 --> 00:21:30,640 know is that uh individually you control your governance as a village 283 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:34,919 collectively The Village Voice goes down but there are challenges with smaller 284 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:40,520 governments which is one reasons why uh villages do uh Embark Upon A A 285 00:21:38,279 --> 00:21:44,000 investigation if you may of whether or not this solution is good for them or 286 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:48,679 bad for them we also want to talk a little bit 287 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:52,880 here about the current state of your Public Works you currently your Village 288 00:21:51,159 --> 00:21:58,000 Public Works has one supervisor and three laborers they may they do a whole 289 00:21:55,720 --> 00:22:02,760 lot of work for the amount of staff that they have right now and regardless of 290 00:22:00,360 --> 00:22:07,120 the outcome of this process uh regardless of whether or not the village 291 00:22:05,039 --> 00:22:12,760 board endorses the process and wants to go towards a vote uh or even if you do 292 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:17,200 choose to dissolve I think that everyone when they see your Workforce in the 293 00:22:15,039 --> 00:22:20,760 roads or on the sidewalks or in your homes in the restaurants you should 294 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:24,960 really take the step to slap them on the back in a positive way not pushing them 295 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:28,600 out the door but actually congratulating them for the work they do because they 296 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:32,880 maintain all of your streets and streets capes Parks recreational facilities all 297 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:36,679 your public spaces they take care of your storm system uh they're working 298 00:22:34,919 --> 00:22:41,559 with the D buyout properties and beautification and they do support your 299 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:45,559 public events they do a heck of a job with the parking lot sidewalks and 300 00:22:44,039 --> 00:22:50,159 Street and Road snow plowing in the winter makees to make sure that the 301 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:54,159 roads are safe not only for uh Travelers but really early in the morning for the 302 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:58,720 school district they also maintain all of your water systems and for those of 303 00:22:56,279 --> 00:23:03,159 you that don't know you have two plants reservoirs towers and lagoons they all 304 00:23:01,159 --> 00:23:07,640 take care of the dam the distribution system and metering systems uh they also 305 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:11,559 fulfill all the obligations of the water system sewer plant school districts 306 00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:15,679 related to rights and ways and easements and agreements so they do a lot of work 307 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:19,200 um it's always interesting to me and Kathleen as we go through these 308 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:26,080 processes and we've done two dozen or so of these uh how much work Villages do 309 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:31,279 with so little personnel and people but if you do choose to dissolve 310 00:23:29,559 --> 00:23:35,080 uh the town model would be that the working supervisor would be assigned 311 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:38,840 fulltime to the water department and Report directly to the town board the 312 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:43,360 laborers would go to the highway department report the highway 313 00:23:40,799 --> 00:23:47,320 superintendent and the laborers of the Village today and the new high the new 314 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:51,039 and larg Highway Department would assist the water department as needed with 315 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:55,640 water breakes or valve change whatever has to occur in in the water system as 316 00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:59,919 you go forward uh the town would continue the village uh process of 317 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:04,279 Contracting with a water treatment operator to provide that 318 00:24:01,559 --> 00:24:08,000 247 required emergency response services and oversee the operations and the water 319 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:12,480 testing that's required by the Department of 320 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:16,200 Health in a chart format uh we can show you here and again no one has to take 321 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:21,360 notes the entire presentation is going to be available online tomorrow so you 322 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:26,240 can download read it again and then ask more questions online there's a lot of 323 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:31,320 information here and I recognize that I'm sorry for that I have to go through 324 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:35,440 all of it like this but it'll all be available to you both in uh online and 325 00:24:33,279 --> 00:24:39,640 you can recap by looking at the video currently again the vid the uh 326 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:43,039 public works department is all snow plowing and the town officials indicate 327 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:46,960 that they'll provide the same response and resources as the village the again 328 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:51,159 the folks that currently work in the village will be be Prov the opportunity 329 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:54,200 to move over to the town uh the town knows that they will need additional 330 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:58,840 staff to do this work and they're committed to Staffing uh the required 331 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:02,480 level necessary for both the snow plowing the water system the Street 332 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:05,399 Maintenance and the like on the streets they're going to maintain the build of 333 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:09,559 streets and streetscape and drainage as is on the Water Treatment Plant and the 334 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,919 wastewater treatment plant they're going to provide the necessary services to 335 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:19,679 abide by the agreements and the obligations uh we've already contacted 336 00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:22,360 with uh D and they've already re committed I'll will go over it later in 337 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:26,399 the PowerPoint and presentation but they've already recommitted to the uh 338 00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:30,120 folks here in the village and town that the agreement for the waste water 339 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:34,159 treatment plant stands uh the agreement itself does have that successor clause 340 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:38,880 in it and they've also provided documentation they'll continue so that's 341 00:25:36,279 --> 00:25:43,000 not an issue so the town will continue uh the obligations of the water and 342 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:46,679 wastewater they're also going to assume responsibility of the parks and public 343 00:25:45,159 --> 00:25:51,039 spaces they're going to upkeep the parks trails and public spaces they're going 344 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:54,919 to uh continue uh the grant opportunities and implementation of the 345 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:58,039 grants that the uh that the village has already received and they're going to 346 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:03,440 make sure that that the parks and public space continue to be maintained and used 347 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:08,159 the way they are today on street lights currently the village has 10 decorative 348 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:11,640 fixtures and maintains their own street lights uh the town's going to create a 349 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:15,679 lighting District the bound is the same as the former Village and they're going 350 00:26:13,399 --> 00:26:19,840 to maintain your fixures and then on the beautification 351 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:25,559 program and special events the town will continue uh the programs going 352 00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:29,799 forward also along the lines of the public works and services you know post 353 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:35,120 this solution as it relates to equipment and vehicles the water system parks and 354 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:41,039 recreation equipment would transfer to the town to provide those Services uh 355 00:26:38,279 --> 00:26:44,799 those additional equipment or services or sorry equipment and machinery would 356 00:26:42,360 --> 00:26:48,720 be auctioned uh if the town doesn't need them the village would offer the town 357 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:51,440 the right of first refusal to purchase uh vehicles and Equipment through 358 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:57,080 negotiated sales uh the town could assume 359 00:26:55,240 --> 00:27:03,000 operations 3 to six months prior to the DAT of dissolution we've done this 360 00:26:59,919 --> 00:27:07,640 before uh normally uh if the village chooses to dissolve uh we work with the 361 00:27:05,679 --> 00:27:12,760 village in town to do what's called an IMA an intermunicipal agreement uh 3 to 362 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:18,279 six months prior to that date so that uh the transition of services can occur the 363 00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:23,600 staff can move over uh the realignment and reorganizations can occur uh any 364 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:27,919 potential uh transfer of equipment can also happen during that time frame and 365 00:27:25,679 --> 00:27:32,399 then any additional equipment or assets that's no longer needed by the town or 366 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:35,200 is not in a negotiated sale from the village to the town when they get 367 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:41,960 auctioned off and it provides the village opportunity uh to work and get 368 00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:47,039 rid of or dispose of its unnecessary assets uh in a timely P fashion without 369 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:51,360 disrupting any Services post this solution with the 370 00:27:49,039 --> 00:27:55,320 highway garage the plan of the town is to continue to work with the village in 371 00:27:52,760 --> 00:28:00,159 the county uh and the New York City D buyout program uh with a with a 372 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:05,159 dedication by agreement that any net proceeds will go to offset the village 373 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:09,720 liabilities and then chips that you get directly from the state which is the 374 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:12,799 Consolidated how Improvement program those dollars will continue to come to 375 00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:17,480 the community but be transferred to the town on an ongoing basis The Village 376 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:21,240 does not lose that well the village government won't 377 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:25,640 be there but the residents will still get that money there's always a fear 378 00:28:22,679 --> 00:28:29,840 that if I if I dissolve my community I lose that state and that state aid and 379 00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:34,840 that's not true uh the town Aid gets increased the both the town and what the 380 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,840 village had 381 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:42,279 before post dis solution with the water services that came up during uh the 382 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:47,000 initial meeting and it's a key part of the of the overall plan the town would 383 00:28:44,679 --> 00:28:50,039 create the Tannersville water district the boundaries would be the V those are 384 00:28:48,679 --> 00:28:54,919 equal to what you have today as the village boundary they're going to 385 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:59,240 continue to service all the users inside and the few that are outside uh after 386 00:28:57,279 --> 00:29:02,600 dissolution after the water district is created they would then extend the 387 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:06,640 district to the additional Town users that are out of District users right now 388 00:29:04,559 --> 00:29:10,919 to en to encapsulate everybody that is currently served by the Water District 389 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:14,480 uh the town would then assume ownership and responsibility the operations the 390 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:19,000 Capital Improvements the maintenance of the assets uh they're also going to 391 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:22,679 continue uh to be the executive of any of the properties and agreement 392 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:26,600 obligations The Village currently has as I mentioned before the village sorry the 393 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:30,200 town will continue to contract for a Wastewater or in this case a water 394 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:34,760 treatment plan operator to provide the ongoing system maintenance and will'll 395 00:29:32,279 --> 00:29:38,159 provide the 24/7 emergency response through that operator they're going to 396 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:42,399 assign the working supervisor that currently works in the village to to the 397 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:47,240 water department U directly responsible to the supervisor and town board and 398 00:29:44,519 --> 00:29:52,240 town Highway will provide staff support you know water is not a typical Town 399 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:55,039 Highway function many towns have both the water department and the highway 400 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:58,559 department and that's how would work here uh the laborers will go to the town 401 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:02,440 Highway Department department and the working supervisor right now in the 402 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:08,039 village will will staff the water department of the town over a 5-year 403 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:12,080 period uh the town will remove the inside outside Village rate 404 00:30:09,679 --> 00:30:17,120 differentials between the village and the few people that are outside right 405 00:30:13,519 --> 00:30:22,640 now in the town so that would change uh the overall usage of the five years of 406 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:26,919 the cost of the village residence right now you have about $500 a year for the 407 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:33,519 single family residential user and over the five years it would move up and and 408 00:30:29,679 --> 00:30:37,960 even out to $575 give or take uh the commercial base rates also result in an 409 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:41,760 increase in the village I should you do that through the equalization because 410 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:46,279 there'll no longer be a a village and an outside Village rate it'll shift to a 411 00:30:44,399 --> 00:30:52,760 uniform rate but it happen over five years won't happen on day 412 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,760 one excuse me for a 413 00:30:52,840 --> 00:31:01,279 second a major major concern of folks online and at the initial 414 00:30:59,039 --> 00:31:07,559 meeting was what's going to happen to the Sue and there was a uh I I guess a 415 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:14,519 fear of the big bad wolf of New York City reneging on its contract uh when 416 00:31:10,919 --> 00:31:19,440 you review the initial 1924 agreement uh which is both the village and town of 417 00:31:16,559 --> 00:31:23,720 part of uh it states that the D will own operate and maintain the sewer treatment 418 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:27,919 plant The Village owns the land and rways and the village is obligated to 419 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:34,600 provide the services as outlined in the eement R right RightWay agreements but 420 00:31:31,399 --> 00:31:40,399 the system is completely funded by D when you review that agreement there 421 00:31:37,639 --> 00:31:46,559 is a successor Clause that clearly states that the uh that the system will 422 00:31:43,519 --> 00:31:50,799 continue to be paid for by D but we did take a lot of effort The Village The 423 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:56,760 Village attorney and our team to reach out to the uh New York City D and I'll 424 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:59,760 read this to you just so you have it uh but the entity that assumed the 425 00:31:58,039 --> 00:32:04,600 villagers Powers related to the SE system which is the successor entity 426 00:32:01,919 --> 00:32:09,120 will also assume the Villager rights and obligations paragraph 10 says that if a 427 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:12,799 party of the agreement transfers his powers to another entity then that 428 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:16,440 entity shall assume all powers rights and duties and the successor enemy's 429 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:20,320 rights and obligations on the agreement will be identical to The Village's 430 00:32:17,799 --> 00:32:25,000 current rights and obligations and because a city do not 431 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:30,200 currently charged system users pursuer it will a village dissolution will not 432 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:35,000 alter that Arrangement at all that's a letter from the general councel uh dated 433 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:38,760 July 8th so that confirms our interpretation in the and the village 434 00:32:36,679 --> 00:32:44,679 attorney's interpretation of the agreement in place so the if you choose 435 00:32:41,639 --> 00:32:48,960 to dissolve one less question is what happens to your waste water it'll 436 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:53,519 continue to go as is post this solution is going to impact 437 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:57,480 your entral Administration in the village currently the village clerk 438 00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:01,919 Treasurer should coordinates all the operation ation with the village board 439 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:06,159 trustees staff and public uh the village M Village clerk maintains all the 440 00:33:03,399 --> 00:33:10,880 records she's also the fil officer birth death certificate um individual Human 441 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:14,600 Resources prepares all the board agendas board meetings and Public Notices she 442 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:19,159 also handles all of the accounts receivable budget development Billings 443 00:33:16,679 --> 00:33:22,320 meter readings long-term debt everything that happens in that Village on a 444 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:26,600 day-to-day basis pretty much goes through the village Clerk and treasury 445 00:33:24,399 --> 00:33:29,960 but she also somehow has time to prepare and administer the grants you currently 446 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:34,399 have and that's about half her time right now since the village have been so 447 00:33:31,799 --> 00:33:38,200 successful with their grants and the clerk treasure also serves as secretary 448 00:33:36,399 --> 00:33:42,960 to the planning board and support for the zba so what's going to happen post 449 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:46,960 this solution with the town's input is they recognize the need for the 450 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:50,880 equivalent Staffing they're going to create a full-time administrative 451 00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:54,440 position for Grants uh that's also going to include the water department work 452 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:58,360 fiscal work planning board and Zoning Board support special events they're 453 00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:03,000 going to add a part-time FIS admin person to support the extended budget 454 00:34:00,559 --> 00:34:07,039 and fiscal workload for the process and add additional hours to town clerk's 455 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:12,359 function to handle the expanded foil requests recen requests permanent 456 00:34:09,240 --> 00:34:16,399 issuance and collection functions um so the position will have to transfer over 457 00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:21,200 to the town and then be shifted amongst the way the town provides uh the 458 00:34:18,359 --> 00:34:26,520 services uh to the residents uh justice court uh if you all 459 00:34:24,399 --> 00:34:31,480 recall you have both a village justice court and a town justice Court The 460 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:35,679 Village Court right now has about 397 cases last year in 461 00:34:33,079 --> 00:34:40,399 2023 The Village has a part-time Justice and a part-time Clerk and they generate 462 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:44,119 local revenues that do offset the majority of his expenses in other words 463 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:49,440 while government is not supposed to be self-funding it's not supposed to raise 464 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:55,240 enough money through fees or through fines in this case with the court you 465 00:34:52,599 --> 00:34:58,359 pretty much cover the cost of the Court uh with with the retained revenues that 466 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:05,680 come through uh the town court handled about 1177 467 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:10,920 cases and has two part-time justices and two part-time clerks post disolution the 468 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:15,960 town and Village courts will have the same same categories of offenses The 469 00:35:13,720 --> 00:35:22,000 Village Justice Court be eliminated uh the cases have been discussed with the 470 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:27,359 town and and the town justice feel they have enough capacity at town court that 471 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:32,520 they can handle the additional 400 K or so 397 from The Village Court they would 472 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:37,079 though consider increasing the part-time court clerk hours to handle the 473 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:42,440 additional case load land use planning zoning and code 474 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:46,000 enforcement uh we had a very in-depth discussion with land use work group and 475 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:50,119 it was agreed that's important to protect the natural uh unique nature of 476 00:35:48,359 --> 00:35:53,520 the village it's also important to protect the the town outside the village 477 00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:58,200 as far as land use and development where the village is more dense than the town 478 00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:02,520 uh they each have a comprehens plan the village has a zoning law and the town 479 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:07,280 does not yet have a zoning law uh the town was successful in securing a grant 480 00:36:04,839 --> 00:36:12,599 this year uh to update its comprehensive plan and is considering zoning as part 481 00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:15,440 of that process uh going forward U as I mentioned the first meeting and I'll 482 00:36:13,839 --> 00:36:21,200 mention it again today all Village laws stay on the books 483 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:26,760 post disolution for up to two years meaning that in that two-year period uh 484 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:31,119 the town could will be administrating The Village laws as is or they can 485 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:34,960 either amend them or get rid of Village laws uh but after the two-year period 486 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:39,400 they all go away if they haven't been incorporated into the town The Village 487 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:42,200 zoning laws and town officials they indicate they're going to continue the 488 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:46,680 village laws post dissolution makes sense to continue to protect that Unique 489 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:51,400 fabric that is the Village today with density land use and Zoning even though 490 00:36:49,079 --> 00:36:56,160 they don't have zoning right now they would administer The Villages zoning so 491 00:36:53,119 --> 00:37:00,640 to do that they' have to establish a zba uh on a planning board side the town 492 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:04,280 Hunter planning board would assume the responsibilities of the planning board 493 00:37:02,319 --> 00:37:08,920 of the village right now the village board trustees acts as the village 494 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:13,160 planning board and they right now review site plans special permits and they 495 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:16,960 provide other planning functions so the town would have to create or 496 00:37:15,079 --> 00:37:21,040 reconstitute its planning board to include representatives of the village 497 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:27,520 and I said they have to they have a planning board right now they don't have 498 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:32,720 to reconstitute we recommend that they redevelop that town planning board to 499 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:37,079 include members of the that are repres that are familiar with the village 500 00:37:34,599 --> 00:37:40,760 zoning today and the village planning today so that's more inclusive and more 501 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:45,440 knowledgeable the issues affecting the village as you go forward on Code 502 00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:49,160 Enforcement the town also recognizes that it's going to have an increased 503 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:54,040 work they have a part-time code enforcer right now but it has to be expanded so 504 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:58,960 they're they're talking with us about uh including expanded hours in zoning 505 00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:02,480 enforcement code enforcement and talking about how to deal with their short-term 506 00:38:00,839 --> 00:38:06,160 rentals and the like so they recognize that there's going to be additional 507 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:09,400 hours and effort that's going to be included in their part-time code 508 00:38:07,839 --> 00:38:12,200 enforcement hours to handle the additional Village 509 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:20,680 work I mentioned a few moments ago but I want to restate that all Village laws 510 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:25,640 ordinances are affect up to two years so the carton Village zoning will be in 511 00:38:22,839 --> 00:38:30,599 place until a town incorporates into their own uh if the town does a new 512 00:38:28,599 --> 00:38:35,400 zoning ordinance they can either incorporate the entire Village code into 513 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:38,760 their new or they can change or augment or make it hybrid but they're going 514 00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:44,079 they've already committed to continuing zoning going forward they want to 515 00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:49,240 integrate your your zoning into theirs so as they're doing this that two-year 516 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:54,480 process provides time for the town to complete its comprehensive plan and 517 00:38:51,720 --> 00:39:00,400 either create a new zoning ore townwide or to incl incorporate the villages into 518 00:38:57,119 --> 00:39:04,520 a special type of zoning in in the town they're going to evaluate the current 519 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:10,119 zoning law uh the look at the districts the look at the uses and see how that 520 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:12,920 would relate to a new town zoning law or they could if they don't have zoning 521 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:17,680 coming into place during those Town those two years they can just simply 522 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:21,040 adopt The Village's law into theirs uh they want to make sure that their 523 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:25,560 definitions and their codes and their regulations U mesh with yours so that 524 00:39:23,359 --> 00:39:30,560 two-year process allows that meshing that integration going forward 525 00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:34,839 um if the town already had zoning then there'd be sort of a hybrid approach but 526 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:39,000 that's not the case here uh right now they don't have zoning districts so all 527 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:42,319 your additions can easily transfer into the town as you go 528 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:55,880 forward so Village quality of life local laws uh you have a a lot of local 529 00:39:53,400 --> 00:40:00,359 ordinances and laws in the village uh examples are your water ordinance Park 530 00:39:57,720 --> 00:40:04,680 regulations or your motorized vehicles on the bike path or the prohibit 531 00:40:02,119 --> 00:40:10,640 prohibit you're prohibiting Mo motorized vehicles on the bike path uh those codes 532 00:40:07,319 --> 00:40:15,400 will all go through a process of review and they'll either be incorporated into 533 00:40:12,319 --> 00:40:20,480 town law they'll be repealed or amended over the two during those two years if 534 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:25,800 nothing happens in the two years then they're all automatically repeal so 535 00:40:23,119 --> 00:40:30,400 those two-year process allows the town attorneys the town board look at each 536 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:33,839 law individually and see how it was created and why it was created or the 537 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:39,160 existence of the village and then incorporate them into theirs if they're 538 00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:44,920 similar or um remove them repeal them if they're no longer needed that process 539 00:40:41,599 --> 00:40:44,920 again occurs over those two 540 00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:54,599 years uh this an interesting little Wrinkle In This is that the town opted 541 00:40:52,880 --> 00:41:03,800 out of the New York State cannabis program but the village opted in uh 542 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:08,240 so you have a few at least one uh application for E Canabis dispensary in 543 00:41:06,319 --> 00:41:16,119 the village currently under review by the state if the state provides a 544 00:41:12,119 --> 00:41:21,480 license to that uh dispensary that'll continue going forward um so there may 545 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:27,319 be a potential impact because the town is not though participating in the 546 00:41:24,359 --> 00:41:31,480 program the tax benefit that would that would have come to the Village should 547 00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:35,880 there actually be an improved dispensary will not be recognized because they 548 00:41:32,839 --> 00:41:40,160 cannot share in that tax benefit uh that's a complication a little Wrinkle 549 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:46,480 in the process but the village right now has has opted in if there was a license 550 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:51,200 dispensary provided uh they can share in the tax benefit from the state to the 551 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:57,160 county and the county to them the town will not be able to do that because 552 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:57,160 they're not they did not opt in 553 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:04,560 uh at this point I'm going to ask Kath Kathleen to talk about the plan for 554 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:08,920 disposition of Village assets liabilities uh Kathleen I'm not sure 555 00:42:06,599 --> 00:42:12,680 whether or not you're still muted or not but if not can you start with this 556 00:42:15,839 --> 00:42:18,839 Pro 557 00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:25,599 Kathleen let me see where Kathleen is 558 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,200 cath are you are you 559 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:44,720 muted let me try to find her yeah Kathleen you're still 560 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:53,720 muted are you there then you you have to take the first Initiative for the video 561 00:42:50,440 --> 00:43:01,160 as well I can't I can't do it myself you can't do what yourself 562 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:05,160 I cannot put the video on for myself 563 00:43:03,079 --> 00:43:10,920 oh and that that's why I couldn't I didn't have the audio as well so thank 564 00:43:07,240 --> 00:43:10,920 let me look at you 565 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:21,960 and you co-host you should be able to video put your your 566 00:43:19,240 --> 00:43:26,440 video oh now you're off again you're on again 567 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:42,000 um good evening everyone um before we get started I I just noticed a number of 568 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:47,720 um chat box comments that this process is a done deal um we are still in draft 569 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:53,400 mode and one of the main purposes of tonight is to get feedback on some of 570 00:43:50,520 --> 00:44:00,200 the the thoughts and processes on the on the preliminary preferred options um so 571 00:43:56,839 --> 00:44:06,680 that the um village board can hear them and we can make those changes that um 572 00:44:04,119 --> 00:44:10,640 that the village board uh may consider based on what they hear from you this 573 00:44:08,319 --> 00:44:15,240 evening so I think your comments and your thoughts are going to be very very 574 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:20,440 important um to the overall process so I just wanted to Quick say that and just 575 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:26,040 make sure we were um I could clarify that so what we're start what I wanted 576 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:32,200 to just talk about first is what what what will happen with the assets and 577 00:44:28,319 --> 00:44:39,480 liabilities um and we kind of looked at them side by side and together um and we 578 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:44,480 wanted to see generally what would be the theme as to how the assets and 579 00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:50,680 liabilities would be would be disposed of and I think the general thought was 580 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:58,119 that the village assets should really to the extent possible go to the um benefit 581 00:44:54,839 --> 00:45:04,160 of the of the village taxpayers so the pro the thought process we used was to 582 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:09,280 really focus it as to use assets and to liquidate a number of the Assets in 583 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:16,480 order to um pay off liabilities that the village 584 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:20,640 has because if with liabilities that would remain on the books post 585 00:45:18,839 --> 00:45:25,240 dissolution those would be the responsibility of the village taxpayers 586 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:31,440 so we wanted to we wanted to get rid of as many of those as we possibly 587 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:37,079 could so just taking first look at the um Villages infrastructure and 588 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:43,359 properties um the water infrastructure parks recreation bike trail and public 589 00:45:40,119 --> 00:45:50,040 spaces um the thought process was that that those properties um would transfer 590 00:45:46,319 --> 00:45:53,880 to the village for continued use for the water district for the water 591 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:58,359 infrastructure and Parks and Recreation the bike trail and other public spaces 592 00:45:56,119 --> 00:46:04,880 to be used for the the public as it is right now um th those are Community 593 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:11,040 assets that um I think the town felt would are essential to the overall the 594 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:14,640 greater town community as well as to the um village community The Village um Hall 595 00:46:13,839 --> 00:46:21,200 and Firehouse uh the the the thought process 596 00:46:17,720 --> 00:46:27,760 is here is to is to sell those assets eventually um in order to um pay off 597 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:34,160 Village liabilities um however we know that um the timetable 598 00:46:32,119 --> 00:46:39,599 for this would would put a strain on both uh the fire district the tanal fire 599 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:47,599 district as their a tenant in the building and the um and also the um 600 00:46:43,559 --> 00:46:53,640 Town's uh short-term space needs uh issues would would would uh create 601 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:59,040 stress if um we were to try to sell those immediately so um we're looking at 602 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:05,720 a um a uh a staged process for those those 603 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:11,920 uh pieces and then the Public's Works garage it is anticipated that um they 604 00:47:09,319 --> 00:47:16,559 would uh continue to be placed in the uh flood buyout 605 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:24,240 program um and that 55 Spruce Street which is your other property um is is 606 00:47:20,319 --> 00:47:30,440 planned for sale prior to um the dissolution and then the existing 607 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:36,240 D buyout properties with the uh long-term conservation easements those 608 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:40,040 would transfer to the town for ongoing property stewardship and the sewer 609 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:43,720 property would be a transfer to the town pursuant to the Sewer 610 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,920 agreement then if we could go to the next 611 00:47:46,640 --> 00:48:00,160 slide so um the equipment um pieces of the water 612 00:47:57,119 --> 00:48:06,559 equipment and the recreation parks and recreation equipment um which would 613 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:13,480 include the um stage the mobile stage and trailer uh were envisioned to uh to 614 00:48:09,839 --> 00:48:19,319 transfer to to the town similar to the um properties for the um continued 615 00:48:16,559 --> 00:48:26,119 Community use the other pieces of equipment as been 616 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:31,480 indicated um would be sold however the um 617 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:37,040 Village and uh Town discussed a possibility of the Town needing some of 618 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:42,079 that equipment and that um there that there would be a negotiated sale prior 619 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:51,240 to the public sale if in fact they came to an agreement and um you can see here 620 00:48:45,839 --> 00:48:57,359 the estimated values of those next slide please the um other um asset of the 621 00:48:54,640 --> 00:49:02,319 village has is will be whatever it's balances um at post 622 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:10,119 dissolution um we don't know what that will be the really L latest data we had 623 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:17,440 um kind of closed out by your uh the uh Village's uh um accountant was 53123 so 624 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:22,359 just to give you a feel um the general fund at the end of 625 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:28,799 53123 that was not encumbered meaning that it wasn't tagged for um a 626 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:33,240 particular project s um and it wasn't appropriated in in the following Year's 627 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:39,640 budget was around 421,000 that whatever that level is at 628 00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:46,160 the time of dissolution is part of that um package of 629 00:49:41,359 --> 00:49:50,720 assets the water fund assets uh the um the the preliminary plan would be for 630 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:57,599 those to follow the um uh F the water service and go to the 631 00:49:54,599 --> 00:50:04,599 new tannerville water district which the water district would have the same 632 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:04,599 boundaries as as the current um district 633 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:16,760 is so then on the flip side The Village has uh outstanding bonds as 634 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:24,720 liabilities um there's a compensated balances uh which are the 635 00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:31,119 um um payments owed to Village employees for um vacation ACR rols that they have 636 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:35,119 not um at as of the um time of dissolution used and then there are 637 00:50:59,599 --> 00:51:08,040 so and then the the the largest of the of the liabilities obviously is the 638 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:16,440 village bonds the snowplow Bond and the water tower Bond are will will are come 639 00:51:11,839 --> 00:51:25,160 to fairly fairly close to the time of um dissolution um and so it is recommended 640 00:51:20,319 --> 00:51:33,000 that they be sort of the first um of the long-term liabilities uh after payment 641 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:39,400 of the short term to to get to um to um draw down using um village assets the 642 00:51:36,079 --> 00:51:44,520 water treatment plant um upgrades as of uh 643 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:51,599 53124 still had um $2.1 million um uh left to be paid uh and 644 00:51:49,319 --> 00:51:59,240 just as a note The Village um does have short-term Bond anticipation notes um 645 00:51:55,520 --> 00:52:05,680 that um relative to uh its uh grants that it has um the two major grants that 646 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:09,799 the village has are uh reimbursement of expense after the expense is made and 647 00:52:07,799 --> 00:52:14,640 then you have to claim so they need a revenue stream during the project 648 00:52:12,119 --> 00:52:22,480 development and project Clos out with with the grant the granes so uh those 649 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:27,839 have a mechanism for um uh repayment and that is the actual grants 650 00:52:25,119 --> 00:52:35,720 themselves next slide so this this slide takes the 651 00:52:32,319 --> 00:52:41,520 estimated uh asset values which is the top and then it also has the estimated 652 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:48,200 values of the potential liabilities on the bottom and we we broke it into like 653 00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:53,880 a phase one and a phase two phase one are those assets 654 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:59,720 that the village could probably get liquidated in a relatively short period 655 00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:04,599 of time whereas the part two would be um assets that may take a little bit longer 656 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:12,040 to sell and and get the funding for so we looked at um phase one assets 657 00:53:09,240 --> 00:53:15,880 being used to offset the shortest term liabilities obviously the V the village 658 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:20,599 is going to have to pay out all of its accounts payable then it it's 659 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:24,240 compensated balances uh it has its retiree 660 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:28,240 liabilities um and then we do believe there would be enough for this note to 661 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:33,920 pay off the snowplow outstanding debt service and the water tower as well what 662 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:41,599 what still is remaining is the water treatment plant outstanding debt and 663 00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:46,440 that is paid currently as um as debt Ser annual Debt Service out of the water 664 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:54,079 fund paid by uh fees We There is a strong potential that 665 00:53:50,319 --> 00:53:59,559 there would be assets uh sufficient enough to to partially pay down part of 666 00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:07,200 that remaining outstanding debt not all of it but part of it um and um given 667 00:54:04,839 --> 00:54:14,160 that the way the bonds are written it would be it would be paying them off in 668 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:19,359 reverse order so right now the bonds um payments end in 669 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:27,079 2051 this would bring the bond payments would end them probably 15 years 15 or 670 00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:32,359 16 years um earlier than that um which would then enable um the water 671 00:54:29,839 --> 00:54:35,920 fund to then have the resources you know for its any other next large project 672 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:39,119 that it may have next 673 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:51,480 slide next slide thank you so the assets and liabilities piece has its own set of 674 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:55,720 issues and it will also flow into what is the fiscal impact I know this is the 675 00:54:53,640 --> 00:55:00,000 part that just watching People's comments this is this is really the the 676 00:54:58,119 --> 00:55:05,599 um piece that you're interested in so there the village of tville 677 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:13,400 taxpayer will see a reduction and their combined property tax and water 678 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:18,640 bills it the the the primary driver of that reduction in property tax is the 679 00:55:16,119 --> 00:55:22,599 shift of Village costs to town outside Village 680 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:29,039 taxpayers you have a very significant differential in taxable assets value on 681 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:34,480 a townwide basis relative to um The Village so that's going to drive the 682 00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:41,559 that drives the biggest piece and to to put it in simple terms if there were no 683 00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:46,720 cost savings found there would still be a reduction in the village cost because 684 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:51,240 of the way you're going to tax for it the next biggest piece is the citizen 685 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:56,440 empowerment tax credit which Ben talked about earlier and we'll get into that in 686 00:55:53,559 --> 00:56:03,400 a little bit more detail as well the reduction in costs um is fairly 687 00:56:00,039 --> 00:56:08,760 minimal in in in the entire process uh your community has a pretty pretty 688 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:12,559 strong division of labor in a history of shared 689 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:19,680 services um so there's not a lot of opportunity to eliminate um duplication 690 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:24,319 or find economies of scale so we were able to see find some small things 691 00:56:21,839 --> 00:56:29,359 around the margin but as you can see that is not what is driving 692 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:35,039 um what what what we'll see in a minute um and what I mean by the 693 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:40,520 division of labor is you have the town already provides townwide police 694 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:45,799 townwide ambulance townwide assessment dog 695 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:50,920 control um The Village delivers a lot of the Parks and Recreation services and 696 00:56:48,799 --> 00:56:55,240 Water Services those are not things that the town has so there aren't any 697 00:56:52,960 --> 00:57:01,240 duplication in any of those materially large large program areas and then the 698 00:56:58,559 --> 00:57:08,400 last piece that does impact is the last discussion we had on use of Village 699 00:57:04,359 --> 00:57:14,440 assets um to pay down liabilities does impact the long-term implication for um 700 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:21,760 Village um taxpayers so just to just to give you a 701 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:26,200 feel we're shifting right right now the town Le or Village Levy is about 702 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,200 $447,000 703 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:39,920 the plan the the the model that we put together uh shifts 371,000 of that 314 704 00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:44,839 is going to the town tax base if you look at the chart you can see the 705 00:57:41,599 --> 00:57:50,000 material difference in the size of the village taxable assess value at 68 706 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:55,440 million versus townwide taxable assess value at 394 million and there is a 707 00:57:53,160 --> 00:58:00,559 piece that's going to go to the new town outside Village taxable assess value 708 00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:04,240 which would be approximately 304,000 so you can see you're shifting it from a 709 00:58:02,039 --> 00:58:06,520 much smaller tax base to a much larger tax 710 00:58:08,359 --> 00:58:19,960 base um just quickly I know we've we've talked about this before um but the um 711 00:58:16,119 --> 00:58:25,400 tax credit is equivalent to 15% of the combined Village and town tax levies in 712 00:58:22,599 --> 00:58:31,000 the year prior diss solution this model was based on the 713 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:37,119 2324 uh Village tax levy and the town's 24 Levy um and then you it's the 714 00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:41,960 combined levies just the and in the town it is not anything to do with Special 715 00:58:38,839 --> 00:58:49,720 Districts it's just general fund and um uh town outside highway or town outside 716 00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:54,000 Village um and the um and then it's it's equivalent to 15% of that combined Levy 717 00:58:52,720 --> 00:59:03,319 and as you can see um 100 % of uh the CC represents 718 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:08,640 $480,000 that's that's larger than the town or 719 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:14,000 the village Levy is right now so you can see how that is materially impacting the 720 00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:22,039 fiscal model that you're going to see in a minute um the town would be mandated 721 00:59:18,039 --> 00:59:29,920 to uh apply 70% of that tax credit to offset property taxes each year uh the 722 00:59:26,119 --> 00:59:38,039 cc is in law uh written as in imp perpetuity um and so that it's ongoing 723 00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:42,000 um however uh it is subject to State uh appro Appropriations and since its 724 00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:47,920 Inception in 2010 uh there was only one year which 725 00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:52,960 was relative um to the fiscal crisis where uh all but 5% was was paid 726 00:59:54,640 --> 01:00:05,520 out so here is what we uh modeled what happened to uh we're looking at a single 727 01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:12,240 family home um with an assessed value of 728 01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:17,680 81,000 we're using 81,000 for this particular uh presentation because it 729 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:22,440 represents the media it's half of the assessed values for single family homes 730 01:00:19,599 --> 01:00:28,760 is below that and half is above and so what you'll see is that we 731 01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:35,559 are recognizing two things going on we're recognizing the current tax bill 732 01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:38,520 and then we're also Rec or the tax bill from 733 01:00:36,359 --> 01:00:47,319 2324 and if you look you'll see the village tax payment goes from 734 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:53,119 529 to Zer the tax the tax payment would go from 735 01:00:48,599 --> 01:00:59,640 452 to 703 and the Water fee would go from 500 to 575 736 01:00:56,079 --> 01:01:07,039 so for this home with that value if there were no CC applied there would be 737 01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:12,480 a savings of approximately $200 $200 if 70% of the CC were applied it 738 01:01:11,079 --> 01:01:19,200 would be 272 and if 100% of the CTC were applied 739 01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,200 it would be 740 01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:28,720 $32 so what we did I'm not going to go through this chart but we put it in here 741 01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:35,039 so that uh we did a range um in some of the in some of the um uh FAQs coming in 742 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:39,559 from folks over the last month or so excuse me there was an ask for can you 743 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:44,720 show us a range so I put this slide in here to give you folks a feel at 744 01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:49,200 different at different um assess values what might be the impact so we won't go 745 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:55,160 through this now in detail but know that it's there and you can look at it um 746 01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:55,160 when it gets posted tomorrow 747 01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:05,760 so the the this this chart is about the taxpayers outside the 748 01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:10,039 Village um the town of Hunter outside the village of 749 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:17,880 Tannersville uh property taxpayer I am going to just make a distinction that um 750 01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:23,720 the chart the summary chart here would be for everyone outside the village of 751 01:02:20,799 --> 01:02:28,960 Hunter as well um their impact is slightly different than the townwide 752 01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:37,160 so if you're in the town outside Village uh and there were no CTC applied 753 01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:45,400 there would be a an incre a a potential increase of around four 754 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:51,520 4.7% once that c cc is applied you you would you would see a reduction of 755 01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:58,000 around 6% and if the entire CC were applied you'd see a reduction of 10% and 756 01:02:55,319 --> 01:03:05,160 this is one of the primary reasons that New York State put the CC in place 757 01:03:02,039 --> 01:03:11,000 because they recognized that it it could potentially negatively impact people 758 01:03:08,279 --> 01:03:16,079 outside the village that is dissolving and this was part of the incentive to 759 01:03:13,559 --> 01:03:21,319 not have that negative implication to people outside um at the bottom for 760 01:03:19,599 --> 01:03:26,520 those folks that would be in the village of Hunter um the impact is only if you 761 01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:32,760 look at the chart above it's only going to be on the um townwide line so we just 762 01:03:29,799 --> 01:03:39,200 broke that out and put that down below um and so they'd see a 763 01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:48,319 14.3% increase on just the townwide um and Highway fund if in fact uh there was 764 01:03:43,119 --> 01:03:53,480 no application of CC with the CC at 70% they're back to break even and if there 765 01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:58,880 100% is applied they too would likely see um a decrease so I know this is a 766 01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:04,039 lot of information um that's why we added in a couple of extra slides just 767 01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:09,599 so you could take a look at it um you know tomorrow uh and figure out uh what 768 01:04:07,599 --> 01:04:15,000 you what additional information you may want or need um and with that I'm going 769 01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:23,039 to turn it back to Ben thank you Kathleen I know that uh this cc is still 770 01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:26,440 an issue of concern for people and it happens in every single one of our 771 01:04:24,799 --> 01:04:30,359 studies is a question is this imp perpetuity how does it get done I know 772 01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:34,559 you covered it but I want to repeat it another time for those that are that 773 01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:40,559 either didn't get it first second or third time or I still have the question 774 01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:46,000 the law states that the CC is good in perp is is in perpetuity however it is 775 01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:51,119 budgeted annually just like your school runs are just like your chips Aid is 776 01:04:48,799 --> 01:04:56,599 just like your 8 municipality is in the budget so every year it gets included in 777 01:04:53,680 --> 01:05:01,400 the budget uh and if you do dissolve that 778 01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:08,720 $480,000 or so what was that number up 48,4 125 as of today will be in the 779 01:05:05,039 --> 01:05:12,520 state budget it does get uh real re annually allocated like all other state 780 01:05:10,839 --> 01:05:17,039 aid but it is in perpetuity uh according to state law I 781 01:05:15,039 --> 01:05:24,480 just want to restate that for those that going to have that question 782 01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:24,480 again uh next steps 783 01:05:26,799 --> 01:05:32,039 The Next Step so the village board has to 784 01:05:29,039 --> 01:05:32,039 review 785 01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:40,720 please The Village trustees has to review this draft plan they're going to 786 01:05:39,599 --> 01:05:44,319 have this over the next month and they're going to deliberate internally 787 01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:49,400 they'll discuss it uh they'll Listen to More comments from the public uh but if 788 01:05:47,079 --> 01:05:53,160 they choose to move forward at all they have to endorse the proposed plan and 789 01:05:52,039 --> 01:05:56,359 the date that they have for the next village board meeting of September is 790 01:05:54,520 --> 01:06:00,200 September 12 at that time once they endorse it they 791 01:05:58,279 --> 01:06:04,440 have to set a public hearing by state law the state law will give them a date 792 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:10,520 and a certain number of days they have to have and that tentative date will be 793 01:06:06,319 --> 01:06:14,599 November 4th by the calendar we have uh at that point after the public hearing 794 01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:19,760 the village board will then either vote to stop the process and say this doesn't 795 01:06:17,039 --> 01:06:26,559 make sense or sense or they'll adopt the final plan and that's November 796 01:06:23,079 --> 01:06:30,799 12 if they adopt the plan and want to give the public the the vote 797 01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:35,640 and the Board of Trustees will set the date and again in consultation with the 798 01:06:33,839 --> 01:06:41,079 uh County Board of Elections who runs the village elections the anticipated 799 01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:45,920 date for the referendum would be January 14th I want to go back again and 800 01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:50,359 reiterate there is no predestined or predetermined process when a village 801 01:06:48,599 --> 01:06:55,039 board initiates the development of a dissolution plan it has that plan is set 802 01:06:53,079 --> 01:06:58,960 forth in state law for what has to be put into to that plan and that's what we 803 01:06:57,839 --> 01:07:05,279 have developed and that's what we went over today uh if they accept it endorse 804 01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:10,359 it then it goes to another presentation where we review the facts again uh and 805 01:07:08,039 --> 01:07:15,559 it's a public hearing at that point where it's a a condensed uh presentation 806 01:07:14,079 --> 01:07:20,680 and it's a hearing for you all to give your comments on the record at that 807 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:25,599 point uh then they will either vote to continue the process or not continue the 808 01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:29,640 process if they continue the process process then they have to set the date 809 01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:36,799 of the referendum and then you vote and that vote is a simple yes or no shall 810 01:07:32,039 --> 01:07:41,359 the village of Tannersville dissolve yes or 811 01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:46,200 no if the vote is no this solution will not take effect and nothing further will 812 01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:51,760 occur it cannot be brought up again for four more years uh the village town can 813 01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:56,359 continue to discuss enhanced shared services they can still look at reducing 814 01:07:54,359 --> 01:08:00,240 things the villains provide the town can provide uh they can decide that they 815 01:07:58,799 --> 01:08:04,279 want to get rid of the Village Court or keep the Village Court or anything like 816 01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:08,880 that uh the village town can still though pursue consolidation if that's an 817 01:08:06,599 --> 01:08:12,200 issue that they want to do and the third or fourth slide at the beginning I went 818 01:08:10,599 --> 01:08:17,199 over the difference between a village dissolution and a consolidation the 819 01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:23,560 primary uh distinction is that in a dissolution while it affects Town 820 01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:28,759 residents only Village residents vote in a consolidation both vote but it's very 821 01:08:26,319 --> 01:08:33,000 rare that if the village dissolution goes down that a consolidation begins in 822 01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:38,319 fact it hasn't happened and I'm aware of in the last 14 823 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:43,600 years if the vote is yes well then dissolution will occur on the date set 824 01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:48,440 in the dissolution plan uh we put in a date of December 31st but the village 825 01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:55,120 board can change that uh when the new new New York law was 826 01:08:50,719 --> 01:08:58,719 created excuse me sorry uh there was a lang anguage that allows the uh 827 01:08:57,440 --> 01:09:04,159 communities to pick the date of dissolution or consolidation again we 828 01:09:01,279 --> 01:09:10,679 pick and we suggest the end of the uh fiscal year of a town not of a 829 01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:14,560 village uh so the town can proactively budget appropriately for the new 830 01:09:12,440 --> 01:09:20,359 services in the upcoming budget year starting January 1st that being said uh 831 01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:25,920 a village can pick any date to dissolve in a year some like to pick uh the end 832 01:09:23,199 --> 01:09:35,239 of a village fiscal year and some pick end of a talent the key point with that 833 01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:40,199 is if you pick a date uh post April 1st you lose the CC in that first year the 834 01:09:38,679 --> 01:09:45,600 law states that cc is you're eligible for it if you 835 01:09:43,719 --> 01:09:50,120 dissolve prior to the end of that state fiscal year State fiscal year is March 836 01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:54,800 31st so if you dissolve before March 31st the following September you'll get 837 01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:58,040 your first check and it's really a wire transfer but it's not to say you get 838 01:09:56,679 --> 01:10:03,080 your first check if the vote is yes the bills will 839 01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:07,520 line down operations over that year again as we mentioned before we laid out 840 01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:11,080 in our asset disposition plan uh they'll sell transfer the properties they'll 841 01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:15,480 sell and liquidate the assets as as stated in the plan the town will take 842 01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:19,640 steps to ramp up operations and their budget and the Staffing uh they'll 843 01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:25,000 arrange for Staffing new equipment um they'll create the Special 844 01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:29,000 Districts and the town and Village will continue coordination to assure that 845 01:10:26,679 --> 01:10:29,000 smooth 846 01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:38,280 transition so what we want to do here is I know I asked most of you to refrain 847 01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:41,960 from asking questions during the presentation because most of the 848 01:10:39,719 --> 01:10:48,320 questions were answered uh but I see there's a good number of questions slash 849 01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:52,080 comments in the chat box um we also know that the village all has folks there at 850 01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:56,480 the Village Hall uh that are available and want to 851 01:10:54,880 --> 01:11:02,880 ask question question I just lost where my presentation went there it 852 01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:07,800 went sorry I was trying to get my questions and answers up I'm going to 853 01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:11,400 try to move screens if I'm not going to be able to uh so you're going to see a 854 01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:16,560 lot of the side of my head as I read questions I 855 01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:22,360 apologize can the Village Hall uh unmute so you can ask the first question 856 01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:22,360 the Village Hall 857 01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:33,960 well as you're unmuting I'll go through some of these is it possible to record 858 01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:37,199 for those that canot attend I believe I turned on the recording so it should be 859 01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:41,080 recording at the beginning uh again someone's talking 860 01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:47,280 about being a done deal this is not a done deal at all uh the village I I 861 01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:53,920 can't speak for the village Board of Trustees uh but it's my understanding 862 01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:56,920 that due to the pending petition uh to dissolve 863 01:11:57,320 --> 01:12:04,440 the village board chose to do a board initiated process to afford themselves 864 01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:08,120 and the village residents the time to do a thorough analysis and a plan and I 865 01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:13,560 mentioned the time frame but I'll mention it again if it was a publicly or 866 01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:18,480 a citizen initiated process the village clerk has 10 days to certify that 867 01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:22,679 petition from that you have 30 days to set a datea of a referendum and you have 868 01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:27,320 a vote between 60 and 90 days from that time period there's no requirement for 869 01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:31,880 app plan or a study to be developed so Village residents you don't have a plan 870 01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:36,960 will be voting on their heartstrings or their Pur strings of no real information 871 01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:40,560 just innuendo and Facebook uh they felt that that's too short of a time to 872 01:12:38,719 --> 01:12:45,040 actively and caber and thoroughly do a plan so they initiated the process that 873 01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:48,800 we're going right now with that process we then have to create a dissolution 874 01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:53,360 plan for what governance would look like post this solution and is not their 875 01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:56,840 endorsement it is not their saying You must do this they're not saying I want 876 01:12:54,920 --> 01:13:01,560 this they giving you the ability to study review analyze and then vote on or 877 01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:08,480 should you get to that point but it's not a done deal could you tell us who 878 01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:14,280 asked that question it's up there excuse me can you tell us who ask that question 879 01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:18,840 just now it's not a question it's a comment on the 880 01:13:16,199 --> 01:13:22,040 chat okay there's no there's no name on the comment well there's someone named 881 01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:29,080 Barbara Berton okay name that's all okay 882 01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:34,280 I'm going to just so everyone knows I am horrible at announcing or pronouncing 883 01:13:31,679 --> 01:13:37,520 people's names so I apologize in advance for my 884 01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:39,760 butchering of people's names as we go through 885 01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:50,679 this um all right Gil my friend Gil has a lot of questions so we'll go through a 886 01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:54,760 couple of them just so you know Gil the majority of the questions you have are 887 01:13:52,199 --> 01:14:00,000 already answered in the FAQ so I'm not sure if you're asking the questions for 888 01:13:56,679 --> 01:14:04,159 the public to hear again now or if you if they not answer already on the 889 01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:07,639 FAQ um I'll do the first one and then I'll turn over the village hall for one 890 01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:10,480 is how many different departments and government entities did you have to 891 01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:16,520 contact in order to put the report together I'm not sure the uh purpose for 892 01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:21,440 that question uh but we spoke to the department heads of both the village and 893 01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:25,760 the town and the representatives of the Town board supervisor Deputy supervisor 894 01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:29,719 and the village mayor and the village deputy mayor was representing both 895 01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:35,120 communities and we reviewed the services that are being provided uh by the courts 896 01:14:32,239 --> 01:14:39,360 by the DPW by the Water by the sewer and by the uh appointed and elected 897 01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:43,239 officials that you have in the community and we use that information coupled with 898 01:14:41,159 --> 01:14:47,199 the information provided by uh the budgets and the services and the state 899 01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:52,480 state reports to develop the report that we that we have uh Village Hall do you 900 01:14:50,239 --> 01:14:52,480 have a 901 01:14:52,600 --> 01:15:02,400 question Village Hall live got to those first okay I just have a few comments I 902 01:14:59,239 --> 01:15:08,280 uh did ask multiple questions I formally submitted them there were kind of some 903 01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:14,159 vaguely posted today answers uh I'm Dr Le mcal I was a former mayor for 25 904 01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:19,040 years uh I am concerned that if this dissolution was to happen uh how would 905 01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:23,520 it be Equitable for the T Village taxpayers that have built the 906 01:15:21,239 --> 01:15:27,760 infrastructure the water system and that to be just given away in your 907 01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:31,960 preliminary study I see today that you're giving away the stage to the to 908 01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:36,400 the town of Hunter rather than auctioning that off that asset and that 909 01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:41,960 has been projected to take some of the village assets walk to them or sell them 910 01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:47,600 to reduce water debt uh the current water debt on the new uh upgrades to the 911 01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:53,520 water plants is at 0% Finance so it's primarily basically just an expense on 912 01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:58,159 the Water District or future water district so why would you want to pay 913 01:15:55,639 --> 01:16:01,800 that down there's really no gain and Village residents that built that system 914 01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:06,840 and paid that through the general fund not through their water fees the decades 915 01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:10,719 and decades purchase of the system the reservoirs and all the updates uh 916 01:16:09,159 --> 01:16:14,719 they're basically going to get nothing in return for everything that they have 917 01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:19,400 built over decades and I've been a resident here for over 40 years had the 918 01:16:17,159 --> 01:16:24,320 largest business was the highest taxpayer have my home here plan on 919 01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:27,760 staying here but all those resources that have been given to the Village 920 01:16:25,679 --> 01:16:32,120 through tax dollars in the general fund not on the water side are not going to 921 01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:37,920 be recouped by any Village taxpayer and uh and it seems awfully 922 01:16:35,440 --> 01:16:42,120 quick to try to liquidate some of these re uh assets especially the Village Hall 923 01:16:40,440 --> 01:16:47,600 given the fire department currently has a lease how are they going to get find 924 01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:52,760 new locations for the fire trucks this is an incorporated Village and I 925 01:16:49,719 --> 01:16:57,600 consider it a business that has assets and resources and giving them to the 926 01:16:54,520 --> 01:17:02,040 town or not getting reimbursed of them uh doesn't seem Equitable uh and I think 927 01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:08,600 you did a lot of good diligence and I see some of the numbers just to disagree 928 01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:15,000 with some of them and uh would like more substantiation of the $83,000 for future 929 01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:20,280 debt uh for the requirements of the village taxpayers for retirement and 930 01:17:17,480 --> 01:17:24,120 health for the few retirees uh that would be moving forward so maybe that 931 01:17:22,679 --> 01:17:27,840 number could get broken down a little more specifically 932 01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:31,280 well well thank you you had you hit a number of of comments in that one 933 01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:36,560 comment so I'll hit a couple and Kathleen will jump in and uh add to it 934 01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:40,360 or correct me if I say it wrong uh tomorrow or when when the report becomes 935 01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:44,560 available shortly I can't say tomorrow it's up to the village board when they 936 01:17:41,639 --> 01:17:48,440 release it on draft format uh there is more discussion of what happens to the 937 01:17:46,199 --> 01:17:52,639 fire uh and the other buildings and Kathleen mentioned it but we'll go you 938 01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:57,840 can go over it again uh there will be a transfer to the town uh of that property 939 01:17:56,000 --> 01:18:02,639 with the agreement with the fire department can use it until they either 940 01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:07,760 buy it or they can move someplace else but it's not g to be kicking out the The 941 01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:13,080 Village Fire Department in a year as far could I just add a little 942 01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:17,560 clarification um in we we brought in the village attorney to help us think 943 01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:22,440 through models that would would help us for a legal process that could extend 944 01:18:20,440 --> 01:18:28,520 beyond the date of dissolution because we did recognize that um how important 945 01:18:26,159 --> 01:18:36,320 the fire district is to the community to community safety so the concept is to 946 01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:42,960 um in in the short term for some designated period of time enable the 947 01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:48,920 fire district as well as um the town to be able to use the Village Hall asset 948 01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:56,120 giving both the district and the town time to deal with their space their 949 01:18:52,040 --> 01:19:02,920 space need issues upon that time then the assets could be sold uh and those 950 01:18:59,440 --> 01:19:06,840 assets then be used to um offset the liabilities and that's when we were 951 01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:12,719 talking about that there were some assets that would be you could have 952 01:19:10,199 --> 01:19:18,080 liquidated in a shorter period of time and some that we felt uh particularly 953 01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:21,960 The Village Hall maybe a longer period of time 954 01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:25,400 recognizing the the other important Community needs 955 01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:32,239 uh I I do want to mention and and you are 956 01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:37,280 absolutely um correct that Village taxpayers paid for the Village Water 957 01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:41,480 System you're not transfering while you're transferring it in theory to the 958 01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:46,639 town in practicality you're transferring the cost of the uh water system to the 959 01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:52,560 new water district which is still right now the Village um if you were to sell 960 01:19:50,440 --> 01:19:57,360 the put a number an Actuarial number on it and sell it to the town it's only 961 01:19:54,800 --> 01:20:01,719 going to be paid back by that water district so you're going to sell it and 962 01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:06,639 then pay it back with the same people that it already had so there's there's 963 01:20:04,440 --> 01:20:10,960 not a situation that that's occurred in the past and that's not a general 964 01:20:08,639 --> 01:20:15,920 practice of of how you do a government reorganization but you're are right the 965 01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:19,120 village taxpayers paid for that system uh but so of the town taxpayers that are 966 01:20:17,679 --> 01:20:23,840 in the water district or actually are out of District users they pay that and 967 01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:27,360 their share of that in their rate the only difference is going to be and 968 01:20:25,719 --> 01:20:31,920 somebody else had a question on it later on is you know why is there a town 969 01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:35,480 outside Village rate and a village rate well the town outside villain rate is 970 01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:40,280 higher than the villain rate and that difference is is their share of the cost 971 01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:44,360 uh that the villains already paid for into the system and that's going to 972 01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:47,360 change over time uh when a town takes over and I can't say takeover The 973 01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:52,239 Village dissolves town now has to provide the services uh so the town will 974 01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:56,159 have a village uh number one will be Tannersville water district that is as 975 01:20:54,120 --> 01:21:01,080 of right once you vote if you vote to dissolve that district will get created 976 01:20:59,440 --> 01:21:05,920 then they're going to create one for the users outside of the village uh so that 977 01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:10,120 they're separate and over time the rates will be adjusted and it just be the same 978 01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:15,639 vill the both water districts will be the same as you go on your question 979 01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:19,760 though about the sale of assets why it goes and pay down a 0% loan that'll be 980 01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:24,040 up to the village board how they decide to do this in the final version of the 981 01:21:21,239 --> 01:21:27,600 plan and the draft plan as we do in our communities we always try to use the 982 01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:31,840 sale of assets to pay down any outstanding debts that you have because 983 01:21:29,639 --> 01:21:35,920 the debts are still going to be with you and once you dissolve the debt you 984 01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:41,840 create that Legacy District your debt is still your debt so we as the Consultants 985 01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:48,120 always suggest in our draft that you use any assets to pay down any of the 986 01:21:44,480 --> 01:21:51,920 debts however uh it's well within the Villager right to change that part uh as 987 01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:56,199 they go through the process of the plan as you saw in the timeline and St that 988 01:21:54,040 --> 01:22:00,199 they rather any leftover money after everything's paid out instead of paying 989 01:21:58,159 --> 01:22:04,920 down a 0% debt they have the right to say in in the final plan we can cut a 990 01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:09,679 check to everybody that's up to that's up to the village board as they move 991 01:22:06,159 --> 01:22:14,760 forward from a draft plan to a final plan um as you go through some more of 992 01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:19,040 these questions and comments you know if the resolution passes they local 993 01:22:16,440 --> 01:22:22,840 conflict in law for example Airbnb what isn't and isn't grandfathered in 994 01:22:20,480 --> 01:22:30,000 nothing's grandfathered in uh you have two years for the town to either adopt 995 01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:34,679 the village laws um mingle or hybrid or amend their laws to include the villages 996 01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:38,679 or to get rid of the village laws the only thing that's still grandfathered in 997 01:22:36,440 --> 01:22:44,520 would be a license from a larger entity in this case if that cannabis uh entity 998 01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:51,120 was licensed as a dispensary by New York state it would still continue to be a 999 01:22:47,239 --> 01:22:56,600 licensed uh dispensary The Village zoning law uh the town said is going to 1000 01:22:54,000 --> 01:23:01,679 be pulled into the town either as they create theirs and pulled in or it'll be 1001 01:23:00,159 --> 01:23:06,239 a standalone if the town doesn't have zoning at end that two-year period um 1002 01:23:04,440 --> 01:23:09,520 and then any non-conforming uses will still be non-conforming legal 1003 01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:18,000 uses a question was why would the town from an organizational standpoint have 1004 01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:21,800 water report to Highway they're not having water report to the highway and 1005 01:23:20,159 --> 01:23:25,920 having water report to the town board and the supervisor the laborers will go 1006 01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:29,600 into the Highway Department is DPW laborers or in this case Highway 1007 01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:36,320 laborers I'm not sure what the next question means is this an automatic 1008 01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:42,199 transfer or only the town agrees to do so the town has to provide water and 1009 01:23:39,480 --> 01:23:46,560 sewer they have to staff whether they have to they don't have to take the 1010 01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:51,000 staff but they're going to have to staff it makes sense to take the staff that's 1011 01:23:48,480 --> 01:23:55,719 currently knowledgeable how the water and wastewater and DPW and storm water 1012 01:23:53,040 --> 01:24:02,840 systems work uh but as evidenced in the last you know 24 of these um they towns 1013 01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:06,159 have their own hiring practices and uh they don't have to take the village 1014 01:24:04,239 --> 01:24:10,880 employees but all indications so far in our discussions are that they'll be uh 1015 01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:14,239 transferred over to the town uh Village Hall do you have a question before I 1016 01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:24,159 continue are you done Le uh I I just want to clarify and thank you that I 1017 01:24:21,480 --> 01:24:29,199 just didn't feel it was Equitable to mix what I would call general fund assets be 1018 01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:35,080 auctioned off to reduce water debt which would affect 106 uses outside uh the 1019 01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:40,960 current Village boundaries that our water uses and that those assets or 1020 01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:45,600 proceeds after the debt is paid off which isn't extensive in for the general 1021 01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:48,760 side that then yeah maybe the village taxpayers would get a check in the mail 1022 01:24:47,119 --> 01:24:52,679 that would say here here's your refund for the assets that the town didn't buy 1023 01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:57,360 or didn't need and weren't part of the water system so that you know we we 1024 01:24:55,800 --> 01:25:01,159 would get the money return to the taxpayers of Village of town rather than 1025 01:24:59,719 --> 01:25:06,800 giving to the town a very it's a good idea U and just 1026 01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:12,719 so you know sir it's a great idea and it's absolutely doable I don't normally 1027 01:25:09,440 --> 01:25:17,360 recommend that in the in a draft plan uh because when I do recommend that then 1028 01:25:15,719 --> 01:25:22,760 the N people that are against the process say that I'm trying to uh coer 1029 01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:28,320 individuals with a with a a tax rebate check to vote Yes or no so I I normally 1030 01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:33,159 do a dissolution plan like this with you use it to cut down your current debt uh 1031 01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:35,880 for two reasons one I mentioned already is it's your debt and two because I 1032 01:25:34,679 --> 01:25:42,119 don't want to look as I'm trying to buy anybody's vote with a tax rebate but 1033 01:25:38,480 --> 01:25:46,199 your your comment is absolutely on point uh that there's a hundred and so outer 1034 01:25:44,159 --> 01:25:49,639 District users they may get some benefit from that uh and that's the village 1035 01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:54,920 board to take that into consideration as they deliberate uh between the draft and 1036 01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:59,560 the final plan in the village of Mastic Beach in town 1037 01:25:57,320 --> 01:26:04,800 of Brook Haven it's the only dissolution that we had where at when all dust 1038 01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:11,000 cleared there was about $150 per tax pay per property left over and the town of 1039 01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:11,000 Brook Haven gave that back a year 1040 01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:19,400 later just so you're aware it's only one we had like that uh did I answer all the 1041 01:26:17,639 --> 01:26:25,719 other one questions you had sir uh just just lastly uh the village 1042 01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:30,320 is in no FIS distress because you you alluded to the fact that it's difficult 1043 01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:35,040 for small municipalities to kind of survive given a small tax base their 1044 01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:40,280 area what their resources are but currently the village of Tannersville is 1045 01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:44,000 in no fiscal distress last night correct and it is not struggling to survive on 1046 01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:49,000 any level other than the point that you said perhaps it has difficulty finding 1047 01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:53,600 elected officials or people to volunteer given population and every village want 1048 01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:58,800 the public to know that we're not the village is not in fiscal distress that's 1049 01:26:55,960 --> 01:27:04,719 not what precipitated this act no the village is is is in fine fiscal 1050 01:27:02,639 --> 01:27:08,080 State there there is no debt there's very little debt I can't say there's no 1051 01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:12,080 debt there's very little debt uh comparably speaking uh you don't have 1052 01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:15,920 any audits or findings from o OCS that I'm aware of uh in the village 1053 01:27:14,159 --> 01:27:20,320 Tannersville other villagers do have those uh we had worked with villages in 1054 01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:25,760 the past that have a challenge in recruiting elected officials appointed 1055 01:27:22,199 --> 01:27:30,920 officials and even uh folks that uh just serve as you know Village Clerk or DPW 1056 01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:35,320 and the like and be employees of of a community I did give you an example at 1057 01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:40,159 the first meeting of a community that was pretty much ended up being a village 1058 01:27:38,159 --> 01:27:43,760 run business in which the the mayor wanted to retire but no one wanted to be 1059 01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:47,679 mayor his mother-in-law was the village Clerk and wanted to retire his 1060 01:27:45,239 --> 01:27:51,440 father-in-law was the DPW and trustee he wanted to retire and when my trustee 1061 01:27:50,119 --> 01:27:55,119 moved out of the village no one wanted to service we had to appoint his wife so 1062 01:27:53,080 --> 01:28:00,280 he had a full board uh so they had a challenge at a small community of just 1063 01:27:56,960 --> 01:28:04,159 serving themselves um so when they they decided to dissolve and ended up very 1064 01:28:02,480 --> 01:28:07,880 good for them tax-wise because the town didn't have a tax uh they used their 1065 01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:12,199 assets they had left over to pay off their sewer debt and went into the new 1066 01:28:10,159 --> 01:28:16,360 town with a clean slate so to speak uh so that's just that Community 1067 01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:19,400 every Community is different for every single one you have a question I I have 1068 01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:23,320 a different community did it differently so there's no cookie cutter approach to 1069 01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:27,800 it we do have to though respond to the state uh outline of what has to go into 1070 01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:31,360 dissolution plan 1071 01:28:29,480 --> 01:28:35,760 um I'm going through some of the questions on the chat box I would like 1072 01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:41,360 zoning to be decided before dissolution I'm not really sure what that means um 1073 01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:46,320 the town doesn't have zoning uh they're going to administer The Villages Zoning 1074 01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:49,400 for those two years and that during those two years if they don't have 1075 01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:53,679 zoning after that they'll adopt the village zoning as is uh if they do have 1076 01:28:52,199 --> 01:28:56,040 zoning they will bring it into their new zoning 1077 01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:59,800 um but they're not getting rid of Village zoning at the first meeting I 1078 01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:04,960 let you know that there are three things that a a town can do you can get rid of 1079 01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:07,920 zoning it can create zoning only for that area that's formly known as The 1080 01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:12,480 Village make the rest the rural agricultural or residential or uh they 1081 01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:15,520 can create townwide zoning and incorporate yours into theirs and 1082 01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:19,239 they're looking to they don't have zoning right now but they've committed 1083 01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:24,080 to continuing the village Zone I've already covered uh the 1084 01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:27,639 question about what precipitate the decision to start the investigation it's 1085 01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:31,920 not an investigation the development of a dissolution plan that've covered the 1086 01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:36,760 liabilities and assets already um Gil had another question he 1087 01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:42,119 mentioned over five years the village resident would go from paying on average 1088 01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:46,360 $500 annually for a single home to 575 why is Town paying higher water 1089 01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:51,600 rates in the village we all Source the same order we cover that as well that's 1090 01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:54,920 with the differential between the town and the village Village paid it with 1091 01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:58,719 their assets they Norm there's a lower cost for Village residents than town 1092 01:29:56,800 --> 01:30:03,639 outside Village some some Villages charge two or three times that amount 1093 01:30:01,119 --> 01:30:09,719 town outside Village The Village tville has decided that a Equitable rate for 1094 01:30:05,719 --> 01:30:09,719 the town outside the village users is 1095 01:30:10,239 --> 01:30:20,840 575 is there another Village uh hall question before I keep going I Margaret 1096 01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:24,679 did you w to No George you're next yes can I ask a question involving the 1097 01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:30,360 village election I believe it's called Article 15 can 1098 01:30:27,119 --> 01:30:35,600 abil actually won its own election instead of having a corrupt Green County 1099 01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:41,080 party running down to 41 Main Street and I emphasize corrupt we can run our own 1100 01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:45,960 election if that's true with a regra and we can do it inh house if we do it 1101 01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:50,760 properly am I correct or am I dead wrong with the corruption I'm not well I'm I'm 1102 01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:57,159 not here to pass judgment on your on your utilization word corruption uh but 1103 01:30:53,639 --> 01:31:00,960 if Villages can host their own uh Village election they like they do 1104 01:30:58,719 --> 01:31:04,440 throughout the state um right now Village elections are run by the county 1105 01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:07,880 uh the village is requesting the county to run that that's up to the Village 1106 01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:14,400 that's not a decision that I make 15 right I've had some uh most of 1107 01:31:11,440 --> 01:31:18,480 my Villages are done uh not my Villages both most of the villages that we work 1108 01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:22,400 with hold their own village election because they hold all their elections on 1109 01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:25,920 their own you answer thank you very much any more 1110 01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:36,360 cou no I don't think you're good I'll talk for DOL 1111 01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:43,080 okay do let D go first yeah um when the presentation was done earlier um you ran 1112 01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:49,080 the numbers um with the with the different items put into the spreadsheet 1113 01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:56,280 and showed that the village residence on a $62,000 home if that was the number 1114 01:31:52,239 --> 01:32:01,320 was going to have a Savings of um a dollar a day or something along those 1115 01:31:57,719 --> 01:32:06,199 lines then you moved on to the out of village and ran those numbers but you 1116 01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:10,119 only ran the percentages and showed those you didn't actually give a number 1117 01:32:08,440 --> 01:32:15,000 is there a number that you could share with us on what the dollar is for those 1118 01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:18,639 uh out of Village do you know what I'm talking 1119 01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:22,239 about yeah but we we didn't run that number honestly sir we didn't run that 1120 01:32:20,719 --> 01:32:27,440 number because it's inconsequential it's the village resident uh we did have a 1121 01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:31,960 percentage there based upon the CC but I'm sure if the village board wants us 1122 01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:36,440 to we can uh do the number analysis just to add it but it's not required uh it's 1123 01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:42,440 a village plan not a town plan understood I just just quick 1124 01:32:39,119 --> 01:32:49,040 Clarity on that Sean um so how did you determine the increase 1125 01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:55,840 to the town outside because I assume it must have been on a 1126 01:32:51,600 --> 01:33:01,719 median and what and then the the part B to that is that at the with the 1127 01:32:59,159 --> 01:33:08,960 increased overhead of the village or is it at the 1128 01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:15,080 current townwide tax leing so we have a chart Sean it's a very detailed chart 1129 01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:20,080 and I didn't want to have to go through this chart because it's a it'll take you 1130 01:33:17,119 --> 01:33:26,000 probably 15 minutes uh but it's in the plan so since you asked I'll pull I just 1131 01:33:23,239 --> 01:33:30,119 pull it up can you all see this chart absolutely okay Kathleen you want to 1132 01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:36,080 walk people through the crosswalk for how we came up with the rates so the 1133 01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:41,320 approach that we took was we we took every line item of the village budget 1134 01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:47,400 and we said what will happen post dissolution will it continue will it 1135 01:33:44,159 --> 01:33:53,239 increase will it decrease we made those assumptions and then we took those costs 1136 01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:59,239 and we applied them to one of the multiple 1137 01:33:54,719 --> 01:34:07,280 Town funds either the a fund the B fund the uh BD fund or the B fund and so what 1138 01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:15,520 you can see if you look at this chart is if you look at where it's the town we've 1139 01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:21,480 got the current Town um Levy um then uh and then the next column 1140 01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:27,440 is how much are we bringing over from the village by fund 1141 01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:34,119 and then we say okay we had three different scenarios no C no CC 70% CC 1142 01:34:33,159 --> 01:34:41,080 and 100% And then we're coming up with a 1143 01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:48,880 post dissolution estimated Town tax levy so that's carrying everything that we 1144 01:34:45,119 --> 01:34:56,480 believe would be include um the overhead the services so that we're bringing over 1145 01:34:52,239 --> 01:35:02,440 $371,000 of increased tax levy in this in this model we then um there is 1146 01:34:59,960 --> 01:35:09,239 another Nuance if you look at the B and the BD fund you if you look at your 1147 01:35:05,480 --> 01:35:13,400 current um taxable assess value for that it's 1148 01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:19,400 $236,000 but because the town or the village of Tannersville will now become 1149 01:35:16,400 --> 01:35:24,639 part of that town outside Village that tax base goes up so we're going to take 1150 01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:31,400 the the existing Town tax levy plus what we 1151 01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:38,280 believe is in each of those funds and we apply it to your um taxable assess value 1152 01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:45,159 and we came up with new rates and we did the same thing for each 1153 01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:52,239 of the funds um the one the one cost that will remain in this model on the 1154 01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:58,080 village tax base is the lighting District um that you know we had 1155 01:35:54,679 --> 01:36:03,119 discussed that that the um the town would continue to um illuminate all the 1156 01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:08,080 lights that the village currently has illuminated however that there would be 1157 01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:13,639 a tax District lighting tax District just as the town has in other areas of 1158 01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:18,480 the town outside um Villages um and that would be a charge back to um The Village 1159 01:36:16,119 --> 01:36:18,480 property 1160 01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:26,639 taxpayer is there anything in more in particular that you you had want want to 1161 01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:26,639 ask on 1162 01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:34,239 this uh no thank you I think you know we're going to have to spend some time 1163 01:36:31,639 --> 01:36:38,000 with that spreadsheet and just sort of take a look at it a little bit more and 1164 01:36:36,159 --> 01:36:40,840 digest it but I appreciate you explaining it to me and and it's great 1165 01:36:39,719 --> 01:36:45,239 to see the numbers yeah and there's more DET there 1166 01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:49,520 there's there is more detail in the plan as well I think it would it would it 1167 01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:54,040 would give you I think what you're what you're looking for my only concern is 1168 01:36:52,719 --> 01:36:58,080 the village let Le current Levy is 1169 01:36:55,800 --> 01:37:05,119 447 and you're saying the town's only going to go up 314 no 37 1170 01:37:02,440 --> 01:37:09,159 371 you have to look at all of the funds together so you're looking at 314 plus 1171 01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:13,119 the 31 plus the 1172 01:37:11,480 --> 01:37:18,040 26 right and that's in the 447 you're 1173 01:37:16,159 --> 01:37:21,960 breaking down the so you're there it's going to be a 1174 01:37:19,639 --> 01:37:26,880 $70,000 savings yeah and and and again what is 1175 01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:34,520 really driving the the savings to the Village 1176 01:37:31,159 --> 01:37:39,119 property taxpayer is not that $70,000 that $70,000 represents a little 1177 01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:45,400 bit more than 10% the big piece is that it's we're 1178 01:37:41,719 --> 01:37:51,400 shifting it from the village tax base to the to the townwide and the town outside 1179 01:37:48,480 --> 01:37:56,719 the the um the new town outside Village those tax bases are so much larger 1180 01:37:53,960 --> 01:38:04,840 that it's spreading it across a much larger base that's what's driving um the 1181 01:38:00,119 --> 01:38:12,599 tax um the the U tax bill reduction in combination with the CC those two items 1182 01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:16,119 represent almost 90 85 to 90% of the whole 1183 01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:22,639 impact the line the line items are important but they are not 1184 01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:27,880 driving Kathy can ask your question I'm sorry to interrupt I think there's a 1185 01:38:24,400 --> 01:38:34,520 Momi here Mr Mahoney Mr kby or anybody else in this group this dissolution is 1186 01:38:31,679 --> 01:38:39,199 with the village of Tannersville correct we decide what we want to do they're 1187 01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:44,560 allowed to ask questions but the bottom line is if they don't like the numbers 1188 01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:49,520 and we vote Yes or no it's our vote not the town of Hunter 1189 01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:54,239 correct um if they don't words it's up to us to vote the 1190 01:38:52,159 --> 01:38:58,960 town of Hunter or any body else for that matter they can have a say in transition 1191 01:38:57,199 --> 01:39:03,560 but when it comes to me as a village wrer I'm very proud to be in Tanis well 1192 01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:08,440 whether I want to dissolv or not I have the say not anybody in Hunter not 1193 01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:13,960 anybody in haes Falls we have the say as a village trustees Endor voters am I 1194 01:39:11,480 --> 01:39:21,239 correct we need to reiterate that so the answer is 1195 01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:27,320 is is is not so you have you have the say and the only say the only vote in 1196 01:39:25,080 --> 01:39:32,719 dissolution thank you but once you vote to dissolve it's up to the town how to 1197 01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:38,360 implement it oh that's that's up to them we have the say so that's what I mean by 1198 01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:43,480 Ish you have the say today and if there's a vote you the only one that has 1199 01:39:40,440 --> 01:39:48,760 a say at The Ballot Box but upon dissolution the town board decides how 1200 01:39:46,639 --> 01:39:54,280 the services will be provided and governed uh and moving forward so they 1201 01:39:51,239 --> 01:39:59,119 will ultimately have the control over all the programs and they have already 1202 01:39:57,560 --> 01:40:03,119 they've been very active involved in this and I appreciate the town board 1203 01:40:00,760 --> 01:40:07,560 because you can't develop a good snapshot of what a future governance 1204 01:40:05,239 --> 01:40:12,599 structure looks like without the open honest discussions with the town board 1205 01:40:09,679 --> 01:40:16,800 and their departments uh so I'm very appreciative to that because we're 1206 01:40:14,119 --> 01:40:21,480 giving you as much detail as we can to make that informed decision but at the 1207 01:40:19,639 --> 01:40:25,119 end they will be the ones in charge and they're going to be the ones with the 1208 01:40:23,440 --> 01:40:27,679 the power to agree or disagree with what we have in the 1209 01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:36,040 plan hence why I said ish uh can I just make one more quick 1210 01:40:33,480 --> 01:40:40,719 comment about the lighting District uh the village is currently uh has a half a 1211 01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:47,040 million dollar Grant to do solar for the village uh which was intended to offset 1212 01:40:43,719 --> 01:40:53,920 all the electric usage uh by The Village including uh water treatment plant uh 1213 01:40:50,599 --> 01:40:59,000 Street lighting Town Hall village hall actually everything was engineered to 1214 01:40:55,960 --> 01:41:05,199 offset that so in the future uh I'm assuming that's going to get implemented 1215 01:41:01,199 --> 01:41:10,719 uh that project so therefore the current Village will actually be generating 1216 01:41:07,880 --> 01:41:16,239 electricity to offset the expenses of the water plant which of course could be 1217 01:41:12,760 --> 01:41:21,760 utilized to uh uh decrease water rents or water fees in the future but also 1218 01:41:19,159 --> 01:41:27,159 there will be plenty of excess to offset the street lights so uh during this plan 1219 01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:33,480 or during this transition will those benefits that the village 1220 01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:38,159 acquired uh stay with the village uh taxpayers going in the future to offset 1221 01:41:36,280 --> 01:41:43,000 that electric bill or that lighting District saying hey they have solar it 1222 01:41:40,280 --> 01:41:46,719 offsets plenty of that and uh and it also should be reflected in the water 1223 01:41:44,719 --> 01:41:50,760 treatment plans because they won't be using electricity they'll be producing 1224 01:41:48,360 --> 01:41:55,239 their own electricity is that possible or is this it's it's complicated but 1225 01:41:55,960 --> 01:42:06,239 and if I could respond please we um we did spend um some time thinking through 1226 01:42:01,719 --> 01:42:15,320 that and we we did not include the impact um in the fiscal because 1227 01:42:11,159 --> 01:42:22,480 everything will have to do with wh which town t What which town utility bills 1228 01:42:19,440 --> 01:42:27,280 will be used as the mechanism for offset just just as you were saying so we took 1229 01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:33,800 a conservative approach and we we we have spoken to it in the draft um and we 1230 01:42:30,599 --> 01:42:40,960 have shown that if it were all to go towards Village um utility Village 1231 01:42:38,199 --> 01:42:46,920 specific utility bills uh it would have one impact but if it doesn't uh that 1232 01:42:44,440 --> 01:42:54,400 that the value of that could get spread over a greater the greater tax base so 1233 01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:58,679 we we spoke to it um but since it wasn't in it wasn't in the fiscal base because 1234 01:42:56,639 --> 01:43:04,880 it doesn't exist we just spoke to exactly what you said that it's going to 1235 01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:10,520 be it's it is a it it does have a potential fiscal 1236 01:43:07,599 --> 01:43:16,880 impact um so I want to go back to the top of the questions but the chat box 1237 01:43:12,679 --> 01:43:22,119 just exploded with chatter on who votes so I because you have about six or seven 1238 01:43:19,239 --> 01:43:25,639 comments on this I'll hit that first a village election you know a village 1239 01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:31,440 referendum is the same as any Village election only registered voters can vote 1240 01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:36,880 doesn't matter if you're a taxpayer and you live somewhere else if you're not a 1241 01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:39,440 registered voter you cannot vote and then whether you're a property owner if 1242 01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:45,199 you're registered if you're a renter and you registered great only registered 1243 01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:50,199 voters can vote that's the uh whether or not you deem that to be fair or not is 1244 01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:54,199 not part of the process uh the law is that the referendum is held like any 1245 01:43:52,119 --> 01:43:59,760 other Village uh vote and only registered voters can vote not Town 1246 01:43:56,800 --> 01:44:04,119 residents only Village in Tannersville registered 1247 01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:10,080 voters and I'm not here to argue the law that's the way it is um let's go through 1248 01:44:07,480 --> 01:44:13,719 some more questions that you have here uh Barbara again asked about the dollar 1249 01:44:11,960 --> 01:44:20,840 amount the liabilities that's been covered Gil we covered that 1250 01:44:17,000 --> 01:44:27,199 question uh residents of Voters again only residents can vote I'm not a 1251 01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:31,320 comment on the village of Hunter and as you go through the vill in 1252 01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:37,440 town what should that's not here um we already 1253 01:44:35,119 --> 01:44:37,440 covered 1254 01:44:38,199 --> 01:44:50,800 CC I have one more person at the Village Hall have a okay Sean 1255 01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:56,599 one um so relating to the Legacy debt District uh based on what I saw 1256 01:44:53,880 --> 01:45:02,960 it looks like you know arguably there would be no debt with the village the 1257 01:44:59,960 --> 01:45:10,719 only debt would remain with the water district correct so so that Legacy 1258 01:45:06,560 --> 01:45:18,800 district is that the same district as the water district or is that a separate 1259 01:45:13,679 --> 01:45:24,679 Legacy District that has no debt so only a legacy is only created to 1260 01:45:22,480 --> 01:45:28,400 cover outstanding debts the analysis so far shows that your assets will cover 1261 01:45:26,719 --> 01:45:32,840 your outstanding debts besides the water district so you may not need to create a 1262 01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:37,159 legacy District however if during dissolution implantation is determined 1263 01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:41,239 that there are additional debts that were not accounted for or not paid off 1264 01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:46,440 with the assets then you would create the actual Legacy District that was my 1265 01:45:43,320 --> 01:45:53,119 sort of question is that you know should unforeseen liabilities 1266 01:45:49,040 --> 01:46:00,280 occur um post dissolution um and should there be a legacy District 1267 01:45:56,599 --> 01:46:05,480 created even with no debt then that would be the appropriate way to go about 1268 01:46:02,040 --> 01:46:13,639 it is just sort of that District handles those debt obligations in your yes 1269 01:46:09,480 --> 01:46:17,880 uh I I'll give an example um right again Kathleen's analysis was detailed and 1270 01:46:15,560 --> 01:46:23,719 it's in the plan uh that assets will cover outstanding liabilities outside of 1271 01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:29,480 the um water plant the Water District if someone falls in the next 18 months 1272 01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:34,880 trips over a sidewalk and sues the village and wins a a lawsuit $1.5 1273 01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:40,199 million and it's above and beyond what the payouts are that's still going to be 1274 01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:44,040 charge back to the former Village residents that would go into Legacy 1275 01:46:41,719 --> 01:46:48,360 District if all of a sudden there are other bills uncovered there's debts 1276 01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:53,239 uncovered or things that occur that have a cost to it that are not accounted for 1277 01:46:50,599 --> 01:46:55,960 in the plan that will go to a legacy but if there's no need for one you don't 1278 01:46:54,280 --> 01:47:02,360 have to create one thank you and then finally last 1279 01:46:58,840 --> 01:47:07,119 question um the writer first refusal of the town to buy equipment at a 1280 01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:12,000 negotiated price uh it should the village choose which is well within 1281 01:47:08,679 --> 01:47:20,080 their right to sell desired equipment prior to dissolution right to to satisfy 1282 01:47:16,920 --> 01:47:27,719 debt or or not um now that is outside of you know the 1283 01:47:24,119 --> 01:47:32,760 the discussion that we we would want but that would be the standard Surplus 1284 01:47:29,719 --> 01:47:36,800 procedure that all the inali have to follow I assume this doesn't bring them 1285 01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:41,040 out of that no they still they still they still have to follow the Surplus 1286 01:47:38,159 --> 01:47:45,320 and then auction um but what that does if they sell everything which is well 1287 01:47:43,239 --> 01:47:48,560 within their right uh then the town would have to purchase the equipment 1288 01:47:46,920 --> 01:47:52,960 necessary to provide the services that's not a legacy District cost that's a 1289 01:47:50,599 --> 01:47:57,719 townwide cost right so it is in both parties best 1290 01:47:56,159 --> 01:48:04,400 interest to negotiate the sale of equipment that 1291 01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:10,880 would be required to continue servicing the former boundaries of the 1292 01:48:07,360 --> 01:48:14,599 village I guess it's Point yeah it's always best for everyone to work 1293 01:48:12,239 --> 01:48:18,760 together on a seamless transition uh there are some cases where there's 1294 01:48:16,280 --> 01:48:23,159 deep-seated Hatfields and McCoy situations that it gets very nasty we 1295 01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:26,119 don't see that here and we don't recommend that because the end of the 1296 01:48:24,320 --> 01:48:29,920 day you're all one I said this from day one you're all neighbors regardless if 1297 01:48:28,760 --> 01:48:34,360 you're in the boundary or out of the boundary you're all neighbors uh the 1298 01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:38,119 animosity and I'm happy to say has not bubbled to the top here but it has 1299 01:48:36,360 --> 01:48:45,280 bubbled to the top in other communities thank 1300 01:48:40,119 --> 01:48:49,520 you is Alexa still here do you yeah my my thing is I guess more of statement 1301 01:48:48,119 --> 01:48:54,159 than questions the tone of this meeting makes 1302 01:48:52,239 --> 01:48:58,320 it sound like this is a done deal and this is not I've already covered that 1303 01:48:56,159 --> 01:49:04,960 three times ma'am yes I know but this came out of like uh for lack of a better 1304 01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:09,480 word rumor or town gossip that someone was circulating a petition to dissolve 1305 01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:15,400 the village of Tannersville so the the board decided to meet it head on and 1306 01:49:12,639 --> 01:49:20,400 examine it itself the people of the village of tville who are here and are 1307 01:49:17,880 --> 01:49:25,639 registered voters have the right to vote this for or against and I I don't think 1308 01:49:23,480 --> 01:49:30,520 that's being emphasized enough everything seems to be gearing it 1309 01:49:28,040 --> 01:49:35,800 towards this is a done deal I'm not really sure why people keep 1310 01:49:33,199 --> 01:49:44,239 saying this is a done deal our charge is to the Village has to in this in this 1311 01:49:40,280 --> 01:49:48,119 presentation and the questions no I'm gonna say it one more time and then I'm 1312 01:49:45,639 --> 01:49:52,119 not going to address it again yeah this is not a done deal the plan that we've 1313 01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:56,360 created is with the plan is set forth by New York State law when a village board 1314 01:49:54,280 --> 01:50:00,360 goes through a bill a board initiated process then from here they have a 1315 01:49:58,480 --> 01:50:06,440 decision to make whether to continue it or not our task which we did very well 1316 01:50:03,719 --> 01:50:09,880 if I may say is to identify and understand what a future governance 1317 01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:14,080 would look like per state law what goes into a dissolution plan from here it's 1318 01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:18,520 up to the village board if they want to continue the process I'll go to public 1319 01:50:16,679 --> 01:50:23,880 hearing and if they want to go to referendum or 1320 01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:28,199 not okay I understand that but but if you do you have a question 1321 01:50:27,119 --> 01:50:31,440 because if you have a question I'll be happy to answer it you have a comment 1322 01:50:30,159 --> 01:50:35,880 I'll I'll ask should hold it to the public 1323 01:50:33,440 --> 01:50:38,800 hearing okay well I I think for the small amount of money that people are 1324 01:50:37,480 --> 01:50:42,960 going to save they're going to lose a lot if they're absorbed into the town 1325 01:50:40,760 --> 01:50:47,599 because then thank you that that's a that that's considered a comment and at 1326 01:50:45,320 --> 01:50:51,560 the public hearing uh it's all comments not questions so I want to get to the I 1327 01:50:49,719 --> 01:50:54,480 only have we're we're supposed to go to eight I'll go a little longer I want to 1328 01:50:53,040 --> 01:50:59,119 make sure I answer as many questions as I can and if not any questions are in 1329 01:50:56,800 --> 01:51:01,560 the chat I will be answered on the FAQ page by 1330 01:51:01,840 --> 01:51:09,400 Friday um will is had Hunter take position on 1331 01:51:06,480 --> 01:51:14,040 dissolution or consolidation uh the town no town that I've been involved with 1332 01:51:11,480 --> 01:51:18,639 except for one uh has taken a formal opinion because it's not their vote uh 1333 01:51:16,440 --> 01:51:22,639 it's not their decision they didn't push this and they didn't request it the town 1334 01:51:20,440 --> 01:51:27,599 Hunter should the village choose to dissolve stands ready to provide the 1335 01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:31,480 services as as discussed already will the slides be publicly 1336 01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:35,679 available yes they'll be up on on the website 1337 01:51:32,760 --> 01:51:40,719 tomorrow um someone asked me to State six positive reasons to approve an adop 1338 01:51:38,360 --> 01:51:45,320 this plan that's not that's not my role uh that's up to you individually in 1339 01:51:43,480 --> 01:51:49,079 the actual plan there's an executive summary which gives each resident the 1340 01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:54,520 opportunity to check a box for themselves as to whether or not uh the 1341 01:51:51,480 --> 01:51:59,760 item is a pro or to help them decide whether or not they want to vote yeah 1342 01:51:55,920 --> 01:52:04,239 yay or nay but that's not our role here uh where can we go if we have 1343 01:52:02,079 --> 01:52:09,639 questions after this meeting uh as stated before you go to the the project 1344 01:52:06,719 --> 01:52:15,040 website under FAQs you can read all the other 30 questions so far and you can 1345 01:52:12,119 --> 01:52:19,079 submit questions to be answered uh weekly as we add 1346 01:52:17,159 --> 01:52:24,679 up uh Steve you had a comment about about 1347 01:52:23,239 --> 01:52:28,040 Michigan in the lottery I'm not going to get involved in a discussion a 1348 01:52:26,199 --> 01:52:32,599 commentary uh but it's been said that town will comply with drri upon dis 1349 01:52:30,599 --> 01:52:36,560 solution the town automatically becomes the new executive of all grants uh and 1350 01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:41,280 they're going to move forward with implementation as the Sip has been 1351 01:52:39,079 --> 01:52:47,840 approved if you if those of you that have been following what drri is uh the 1352 01:52:44,920 --> 01:52:52,000 village was recipient of $10 million award uh they developed a Strategic 1353 01:52:50,159 --> 01:52:57,760 investment plan that was adopted by the state uh the governor announced where 1354 01:52:54,360 --> 01:53:01,599 that money will be uh given to with both the private projects and the public 1355 01:52:59,320 --> 01:53:05,480 projects and the town will move forward on the few public projects that they 1356 01:53:03,199 --> 01:53:05,480 have to 1357 01:53:08,679 --> 01:53:14,239 administer uh commentary there's a lot of comments about voting no and voting 1358 01:53:12,440 --> 01:53:17,840 yes that's not for me to answer again there's a lot of comments 1359 01:53:16,320 --> 01:53:24,440 about why the village shows knew that I've already covered 1360 01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:28,280 that um this is there I just like you're you mentioned that it was a we were 1361 01:53:26,239 --> 01:53:32,639 actually shown the petition they had over they had enough signatures so if we 1362 01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:38,320 allowed it to become as a petition we would have had no time this wouldn't be 1363 01:53:34,520 --> 01:53:44,000 going on okay so just so everybody knows that it wasn't like a rumor or anything 1364 01:53:40,480 --> 01:53:48,960 like that we had we had make choice and we felt this is a better choice in 1365 01:53:46,639 --> 01:53:54,199 board I'm I mean I I say this and I know people are 1366 01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:59,880 going to say I have have a personal uh agenda here I don't um but I always 1367 01:53:57,560 --> 01:54:03,719 recommend that a board take the initiative should there be a petition 1368 01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:09,639 coming to undertake the process because it gives you the village the ability to 1369 01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:15,199 take time to do the fiscal analysis well we've done since basically April um and 1370 01:54:13,400 --> 01:54:20,000 this goes through the actual vote should you choose to vote in January that's a 1371 01:54:17,079 --> 01:54:23,920 9month process that if you if you did the petition way it slammed into three 1372 01:54:22,119 --> 01:54:29,560 months so I I applaud communities I take that 1373 01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:32,719 leap it's not an easy decision to do but it's something that gives the residents 1374 01:54:31,159 --> 01:54:39,320 here the opportunity now to have three meetings review the plan and make an 1375 01:54:35,719 --> 01:54:42,840 informed decision which way to go so I'm just happy that you chose to do that 1376 01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:49,880 because you're giving your residents the opportunity to read analyze digest and 1377 01:54:46,159 --> 01:54:49,880 make an informed decision 1378 01:54:53,400 --> 01:54:58,840 it's not and I I want to reiterate I don't want to speak for you mayor but 1379 01:54:57,159 --> 01:55:03,520 this is not this by no means says that the village board supports or endorses 1380 01:55:01,280 --> 01:55:06,079 the concept but you're doing what's right as government leaders and 1381 01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:11,040 providing the village residents the opportunity to move 1382 01:55:08,360 --> 01:55:19,480 forward sir can I interrupt you does that say 70 people on chat right 1383 01:55:14,239 --> 01:55:23,760 now comments 70 comments there there are quite a number of comments Andor 1384 01:55:21,560 --> 01:55:28,400 questions so our mailing evently hit home the 1385 01:55:26,239 --> 01:55:36,199 mailing that we requested defitely hit home people got out the home thank you I 1386 01:55:31,679 --> 01:55:41,360 have a curiosity question uh if the voters of the village in Townville 1387 01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:46,800 decide for this to go through can the village still be identified in signage 1388 01:55:44,480 --> 01:55:51,840 upon its boundaries Village of Tannersville no like it will not be the 1389 01:55:49,840 --> 01:55:54,840 village of T Tannersville be the Hamlet of tan 1390 01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:59,760 you can call Historic it won't be a village so the 1391 01:55:56,920 --> 01:56:05,560 term Village is unique in New York state over other community other states in the 1392 01:56:01,400 --> 01:56:10,880 in the Union uh Village is a municipal identity uh it's also sometimes equated 1393 01:56:08,520 --> 01:56:15,520 to a dense area they call the Village but in New York state the village is a 1394 01:56:13,480 --> 01:56:19,320 municipal governance structure you're Incorporated and the differences that 1395 01:56:17,480 --> 01:56:23,880 you control and you're a political subdivision to yourself a village can 1396 01:56:21,800 --> 01:56:28,520 only exist within a town in New York state if you choose to dissolve you're 1397 01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:33,560 no longer a village so your government structur ceases to exist and therefore 1398 01:56:31,360 --> 01:56:38,960 you're no longer The Village you will be a hamlet a place you could have a sign 1399 01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:42,679 saying welcome to Historic tannerville you can have a sign saying welcome to 1400 01:56:40,679 --> 01:56:49,520 the Hamlet of Tannersville but you're no longer a village in other states the 1401 01:56:46,040 --> 01:56:55,960 term Village is used anecdotally to to reference a hamlet or an area of d it 1402 01:56:53,000 --> 01:57:00,679 that is Village like butk State the term Village is a governance 1403 01:56:57,719 --> 01:57:05,160 structure thank you I sound like a teacher there I sound 1404 01:57:03,239 --> 01:57:08,220 like my father I [Music] 1405 01:57:09,920 --> 01:57:18,520 apologize so we're close to8 o'clock uh Lucy has told me that all the meeting 1406 01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:22,880 chat has been is recorded uh through Zoom so we can go through them and when 1407 01:57:21,239 --> 01:57:28,239 there are questions that we are able to respond to we'll put 1408 01:57:25,360 --> 01:57:33,960 them on the FAQ uh but again we're not here to decide for you I have no horse 1409 01:57:31,199 --> 01:57:39,560 in the game uh Kathleen has no horse in the in in the game or in the run in the 1410 01:57:36,320 --> 01:57:43,119 race so to speak uh but we strove to come up with unbiased information so 1411 01:57:41,840 --> 01:57:48,360 that you're able to make your own informed decision as the pros and cons 1412 01:57:53,520 --> 01:57:59,760 Gil you added a number of comments um none of them are questions 1413 01:57:58,320 --> 01:58:04,760 that that I have to answer they're just commentary here um one of them is who's 1414 01:58:03,159 --> 01:58:08,719 going to bid on Village assets Town doesn't want it goes to auction uh once 1415 01:58:07,159 --> 01:58:13,320 they go through the Surplus process it goes to 1416 01:58:10,400 --> 01:58:20,000 auction quite frankly we've had some communities um one I I call it a fire 1417 01:58:17,000 --> 01:58:23,960 sale uh it was at the fire department uh but they auctioned off their gazebo they 1418 01:58:22,320 --> 01:58:29,320 auctioned off their chairs they auction off their tables and the file cabinets 1419 01:58:26,599 --> 01:58:33,639 so that's there other other comments you have in there are commentary that's not 1420 01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:33,639 questions for me to 1421 01:58:37,880 --> 01:58:45,639 answer um will there be an option for absentee voting yes but you have to 1422 01:58:43,960 --> 01:58:51,119 follow the normal absentee voting process of uh requesting absentee ballot 1423 01:58:57,360 --> 01:59:06,960 okay um there was a question in here that I want to share that I SC that I 1424 01:59:03,400 --> 01:59:10,239 scrolled over uh CC it goes to all of the Town 1425 01:59:07,960 --> 01:59:13,840 residents it doesn't go to just the area formly known as The Village everyone 1426 01:59:12,119 --> 01:59:18,880 will benefit because the village is gone so what happens is the new town budget 1427 01:59:16,360 --> 01:59:22,920 if anyone looks online at a town budget at the bottom of the analysis it says 1428 01:59:20,719 --> 01:59:28,320 amount can be raised by tax or a tax levy that will then be reduced by a 1429 01:59:25,840 --> 01:59:32,800 minimum of the 70% with a maximum of 100% or somewhere in between there and 1430 01:59:30,520 --> 01:59:36,880 that'll be the new town amount to be to be raised by the tax levy so every one 1431 01:59:35,000 --> 01:59:42,199 of the Town benefits if you go back to Kathleen's uh discussion on the fiscal 1432 01:59:39,480 --> 01:59:49,719 model of the post dissolution impacts it shows uh that amount by no no CC 70% 1433 01:59:46,960 --> 01:59:54,719 100% to Village and the town residents the purpose one of the purposes uh that 1434 01:59:52,679 --> 02:00:00,280 the New York state had When developing the CC was they acknowledged uh that in 1435 01:59:58,079 --> 02:00:06,079 dissolution normally Village taxes go down town taxes go up uh from the reason 1436 02:00:03,079 --> 02:00:10,159 exactly why Kathleen uh discussed uh going from a smaller tax base to a 1437 02:00:08,199 --> 02:00:15,480 larger tax base and an addition of the costs the CC goes to everyone in the 1438 02:00:13,000 --> 02:00:20,040 town you will see it if you choose to dissolve the seen on your tax bill your 1439 02:00:17,800 --> 02:00:25,880 tax bill according to the law says that you have to show what the tax would have 1440 02:00:22,360 --> 02:00:29,440 been and what is now saved by the CC as provided by New York State and your 1441 02:00:27,679 --> 02:00:32,320 final amount your tax bill will have two additional lines on 1442 02:00:36,880 --> 02:00:46,079 it uh with that is anyone left of the village had a 1443 02:00:41,480 --> 02:00:46,079 question in the Village Hall 1444 02:00:56,280 --> 02:01:01,239 okay so what we're going to do is we're going to close this for now uh this 1445 02:01:00,000 --> 02:01:05,480 public meeting it's not a public hearing so it's not really closing it so we'll 1446 02:01:02,679 --> 02:01:10,440 end this uh public information meeting uh we're going to post tomorrow the 1447 02:01:07,760 --> 02:01:14,920 PowerPoint in its entirety uh we'll take this extra slide that we just went over 1448 02:01:12,480 --> 02:01:20,920 that we had uh on hand and put it into the slide deck uh so you'll all have 1449 02:01:17,639 --> 02:01:25,760 that information uh when the village uh board approved the draft plan we'll get 1450 02:01:23,280 --> 02:01:30,560 that up online you'll see again in there an executive summary that that goes into 1451 02:01:28,320 --> 02:01:35,480 each of the items we spoke about today and provides that checklist for you all 1452 02:01:32,320 --> 02:01:39,239 as Village residents uh for pro and con uh the village then will go through its 1453 02:01:36,960 --> 02:01:43,960 process of of the agenda and timeline that we set forth of endorsing uh the 1454 02:01:42,440 --> 02:01:48,760 plan and then having a public hearing and then can also during either before 1455 02:01:46,320 --> 02:01:53,079 then or after then we can amend the plan uh and then move forward with the 1456 02:01:50,079 --> 02:01:53,079 process 1457 02:01:53,920 --> 02:02:00,239 there was one more question was the dissolution affect government grants or 1458 02:01:56,920 --> 02:02:04,400 Awards on drri money it doesn't AFF current ones except the town will take 1459 02:02:01,800 --> 02:02:08,800 over as the administrator of them the drri money is given to the Village which 1460 02:02:06,520 --> 02:02:13,320 then will go to the town to administer uh it's a misnomer that is given to the 1461 02:02:11,360 --> 02:02:17,800 Village when the vast majority of that of those funds are are slotted for 1462 02:02:15,880 --> 02:02:22,239 private investment projects and again it's all a reimbursement program so for 1463 02:02:20,679 --> 02:02:25,480 those private projects the have the commercial development the rehab they 1464 02:02:24,040 --> 02:02:31,719 have to do the work to get the money back from the state uh and if you recall 1465 02:02:28,440 --> 02:02:35,960 in our transition of uh Personnel uh the town has already identified a need for a 1466 02:02:33,679 --> 02:02:38,920 grant administrative position uh so they're intending to be able to 1467 02:02:37,360 --> 02:02:43,560 administer the grants should they be charged with doing so going 1468 02:02:41,440 --> 02:02:48,199 forward with that I want to thank you all for participating staying on so long 1469 02:02:46,119 --> 02:02:53,199 we started with about 65 people we have still about 56 plus ones in Village Hall 1470 02:02:51,719 --> 02:02:58,360 uh I always want to thank you for taking time to participate in the process to 1471 02:02:55,560 --> 02:03:02,400 listen to what we had to share I hope you take time to read it again when it's 1472 02:03:00,280 --> 02:03:07,000 online and I hope you take time to read the draft plan when it's available and 1473 02:03:04,400 --> 02:03:12,560 continue to Avail yourselves of the uh Q&A portion of the website um and we 1474 02:03:10,079 --> 02:03:16,440 hope to see you all again soon uh thank you and have a good night