1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:37,300 2 00:02:37,300 --> 00:02:42,250 Where was that do not disturb sign. 3 00:02:42,250 --> 00:02:56,910 4 00:02:56,910 --> 00:03:01,270 Yeah he was on your left side. 5 00:03:01,270 --> 00:03:12,570 6 00:03:12,570 --> 00:03:13,520 I learned something new. 7 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,340 Learn you can't teach an old dog new tricks. 8 00:03:16,340 --> 00:03:22,080 9 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,810 Happy days. 10 00:03:24,810 --> 00:03:26,020 Call to order. 11 00:03:26,020 --> 00:03:33,210 The city council meeting for February 7th, 2024. 12 00:03:33,210 --> 00:03:35,550 Mr Joseph Richardson. 13 00:03:35,550 --> 00:03:43,415 Here so. 14 00:03:43,415 --> 00:03:56,460 15 00:03:56,460 --> 00:03:59,970 Our Thanks today to Mayor Grenier, the commissioners 16 00:03:59,970 --> 00:04:02,670 and the city staff for this invitation 17 00:04:02,670 --> 00:04:05,190 to do the invocation today. 18 00:04:05,190 --> 00:04:07,590 In this chamber of governance. 19 00:04:07,590 --> 00:04:11,280 Let us unite in the spirit of reason, compassion, 20 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,040 and the pursuit of Justice. 21 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:18,899 As we gather, may our hearts be open to the diversity 22 00:04:18,899 --> 00:04:21,940 that defines our community. 23 00:04:21,940 --> 00:04:22,700 This morning. 24 00:04:22,700 --> 00:04:26,440 Let us draw inspiration from the Universal Declaration of Human 25 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:32,200 Rights signed more than 75 years ago, serving as a guidepost, 26 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:36,730 illuminating the path to equality, dignity and liberty 27 00:04:36,730 --> 00:04:38,920 for all. 28 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:43,510 May today's meetings decisions reflect the wisdom of reason 29 00:04:43,510 --> 00:04:48,240 and the empathy that binds us as fellow human beings. 30 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:52,060 In the pursuit of goodwill to all in our County. 31 00:04:52,060 --> 00:04:55,050 May our actions be guided by the principles 32 00:04:55,050 --> 00:04:58,800 of inclusivity, fairness and respect 33 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:03,060 for the autonomy of every individual. 34 00:05:03,060 --> 00:05:06,150 Let this assembly today be a testament 35 00:05:06,150 --> 00:05:08,520 to the shared values that transcend 36 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,920 creed, culture and conviction. 37 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,950 At the same time, may we be grateful for the progress 38 00:05:15,950 --> 00:05:18,740 we have made in the past 75 years 39 00:05:18,740 --> 00:05:24,200 and the many accomplishments that surely lie ahead. 40 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,680 In closing, let us remember this work is a reflection 41 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,920 of a commitment to the city and that these efforts 42 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:36,260 will have a lasting impact on the lives of those you serve. 43 00:05:36,260 --> 00:05:36,960 Thank you. 44 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,170 45 00:05:40,170 --> 00:05:41,810 Mr clerk, if you would, please. 46 00:05:41,810 --> 00:05:46,470 47 00:05:46,470 --> 00:05:48,480 Good afternoon. 48 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,700 Thank you for the privilege of allowing 49 00:05:50,700 --> 00:05:52,060 me to work with you all. 50 00:05:52,060 --> 00:05:55,660 And Thank you for the honor of allowing me to pray. 51 00:05:55,660 --> 00:05:59,120 Heavenly father, Thank you for this blessed and glorious day. 52 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,100 Thank you for the folks we work for. 53 00:06:01,100 --> 00:06:02,900 Thank you for the folks we work with. 54 00:06:02,900 --> 00:06:05,570 Thank you for the glorious city that we live in. 55 00:06:05,570 --> 00:06:08,150 Thank you for all the blessings you bestow on us. 56 00:06:08,150 --> 00:06:10,280 Please keep us on a righteous path. 57 00:06:10,280 --> 00:06:13,350 Please forgive us for our sins and bless those less fortunate. 58 00:06:13,350 --> 00:06:14,650 In Jesus Christ's name. 59 00:06:14,650 --> 00:06:17,030 Amen Amen. 60 00:06:17,030 --> 00:06:20,360 Pledge of Allegiance to the flag of the United States 61 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,440 of America to the Republic for which it stands. 62 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,480 One nation under God. 63 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,700 Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 64 00:06:29,700 --> 00:06:37,110 65 00:06:37,110 --> 00:06:42,220 OK let me go. 66 00:06:42,220 --> 00:06:43,750 All right. 67 00:06:43,750 --> 00:06:49,720 If anybody has anything to say regarding one of the agenda 68 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,210 items today, please fill out one of the forms there 69 00:06:52,210 --> 00:06:53,740 and bring it to Mr Clark over there 70 00:06:53,740 --> 00:06:56,230 on the corner to remind you there 71 00:06:56,230 --> 00:06:58,420 was not going to be any there's never 72 00:06:58,420 --> 00:07:03,700 any discussion on first readings, which is tabs 5 and 6 73 00:07:03,700 --> 00:07:04,310 today. 74 00:07:04,310 --> 00:07:07,780 So if you want to still stick around, 75 00:07:07,780 --> 00:07:09,820 there will be read into the records. 76 00:07:09,820 --> 00:07:11,320 If you still want to stick around and enjoy 77 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,890 the rest of the city council meeting and what we do here, 78 00:07:14,890 --> 00:07:18,010 we'd love to have you to stick around and talk about 79 00:07:18,010 --> 00:07:20,950 and listen to what we have, what we do here in the city 80 00:07:20,950 --> 00:07:23,350 for various American city. 81 00:07:23,350 --> 00:07:27,570 Um, with that, just for clarity. 82 00:07:27,570 --> 00:07:31,890 Heb 5 and 6 is related to the idumaea crossing 83 00:07:31,890 --> 00:07:37,140 rezoning of 19.46 acres. 84 00:07:37,140 --> 00:07:40,020 So what the mayor has said is if you're here 85 00:07:40,020 --> 00:07:44,310 to speak on the item you're crossing rezoning, 86 00:07:44,310 --> 00:07:47,950 there will be no discussion today on that item. 87 00:07:47,950 --> 00:07:49,620 It is first reading. 88 00:07:49,620 --> 00:07:55,920 The next meeting, which is February 21st, full meeting 89 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,390 with the developer. 90 00:07:58,390 --> 00:08:00,900 You want to speak things of that nature. 91 00:08:00,900 --> 00:08:03,670 However, as you said, feel free to stay in the meeting. 92 00:08:03,670 --> 00:08:05,760 There's a lot of exciting things coming 93 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,500 up on budgets and things. 94 00:08:08,500 --> 00:08:10,680 Thank you, Mr Drury, for clarifying 95 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:11,950 and adding on to that. 96 00:08:11,950 --> 00:08:15,280 Yes tabs 5 and 6 and animal crossings. 97 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,120 Um, is there any changes or any additions? 98 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:19,050 Mr drury? 99 00:08:19,050 --> 00:08:22,200 None very good. 100 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:23,210 Changes or additions. 101 00:08:23,210 --> 00:08:25,050 Council anything. 102 00:08:25,050 --> 00:08:26,760 I'll make a motion to approve the agenda. 103 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,570 We got a motion to approve. 104 00:08:28,570 --> 00:08:31,280 Second got a motion and a second. 105 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:32,360 All in favor? 106 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,480 Aye opposed. 107 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,299 Passes Oh. 108 00:08:37,299 --> 00:08:39,120 Uh, proclamations and presentations. 109 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:39,620 I see. 110 00:08:39,620 --> 00:08:43,990 None swearing in by city attorney and disclosure of ex 111 00:08:43,990 --> 00:08:45,710 parte communications, Ms Lindsay. 112 00:08:45,710 --> 00:08:46,550 Yes Thank you, mayor. 113 00:08:46,550 --> 00:08:49,400 There are no quasi judicial matters on the agenda today. 114 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:50,030 Very good. 115 00:08:50,030 --> 00:08:53,180 And reading of all ordinances, resolutions into record. 116 00:08:53,180 --> 00:08:53,980 Miss Susie. 117 00:08:53,980 --> 00:08:54,720 Thank you, mayor. 118 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,340 We have two resolutions and three ordinances. 119 00:08:57,340 --> 00:09:02,290 Resolution 2020 401, a resolution by the city council 120 00:09:02,290 --> 00:09:05,260 of the city of Tavares, Florida, to vacate a portion 121 00:09:05,260 --> 00:09:09,670 of a 16 foot wide alley right of way located at 120 North 122 00:09:09,670 --> 00:09:14,710 Bloxham Avenue to Berry's Florida 32778 line lying 123 00:09:14,710 --> 00:09:18,790 East of lots a, B and C 52. 124 00:09:18,790 --> 00:09:21,850 The Tavares improvement companies subdivision 125 00:09:21,850 --> 00:09:26,290 is recorded in plat book four, page 39 of the public records 126 00:09:26,290 --> 00:09:27,530 of Lake county, Florida. 127 00:09:27,530 --> 00:09:29,920 Subject to the rules and regulations 128 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:34,540 ordained by the city of Tavares council providing for a date. 129 00:09:34,540 --> 00:09:37,220 Resolution 2020 403. 130 00:09:37,220 --> 00:09:39,790 A resolution of the city of Florida amending 131 00:09:39,790 --> 00:09:44,410 2024 fiscal year adopted budget for the fairies 132 00:09:44,410 --> 00:09:47,440 representing the First Amendment to the adopted budget, 133 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,200 providing for severability and an effective date. 134 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:56,320 Ordinance 20 2020 4-01 first reading ordinance 135 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:01,390 of the Florida rezoning approximately 19.46 acres 136 00:10:01,390 --> 00:10:04,570 of land located at the Southeast corner of the intersection 137 00:10:04,570 --> 00:10:08,500 of State Road 19 and lane park cut off from Highway commercial 138 00:10:08,500 --> 00:10:12,610 c-2 to Planned development pd, subject to the rules, 139 00:10:12,610 --> 00:10:14,500 regulations and obligations ordained 140 00:10:14,500 --> 00:10:18,370 by the city of Tavares council providing effective date 141 00:10:18,370 --> 00:10:23,350 ordinance 2020 402 first reading an ordinance of the city 142 00:10:23,350 --> 00:10:26,560 of tiberias, Florida amending the Tavares comprehensive plan 143 00:10:26,560 --> 00:10:29,320 future land use map 2040 providing 144 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,720 for a change of future land use designation 145 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,920 approximately 19.46 acres of land located 146 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,140 at the Southeast corner of the intersection 147 00:10:38,140 --> 00:10:39,920 of State Road 19 and lane park. 148 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,540 Cutoff from commercial to mixed use 149 00:10:43,540 --> 00:10:46,690 mu providing for severability and conflicts 150 00:10:46,690 --> 00:10:49,040 in providing for an effective date. 151 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:53,020 An ordinance 2020 4-03 first reading 152 00:10:53,020 --> 00:10:57,550 and transmittal pursuant to chapter 163 of the Florida 153 00:10:57,550 --> 00:11:00,310 statutes amending the public facilities element 154 00:11:00,310 --> 00:11:03,730 and conservation element of the city of the Tavares 155 00:11:03,730 --> 00:11:05,690 comprehensive plan 2040. 156 00:11:05,690 --> 00:11:08,320 In order for consistency with the city's work 157 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,560 plan and regional water supply planning initiatives 158 00:11:11,560 --> 00:11:14,080 by providing for severability and conflicts, 159 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,740 providing for an effective date and bacteremia. 160 00:11:17,740 --> 00:11:19,330 Thank you, miss Susie. 161 00:11:19,330 --> 00:11:21,850 Take, Council the consent agenda. 162 00:11:21,850 --> 00:11:23,500 Looks like just our city council meeting 163 00:11:23,500 --> 00:11:25,480 minutes from the last meeting. 164 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,200 I'll make a motion to approve. 165 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,830 Second I've got a motion to approve and seconded. 166 00:11:30,830 --> 00:11:31,830 All in favor? 167 00:11:31,830 --> 00:11:32,955 Aye all opposed. 168 00:11:32,955 --> 00:11:35,500 169 00:11:35,500 --> 00:11:41,120 Resolution tab three community development. 170 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:42,920 Thank you, mayor. 171 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,590 This resolution the Community Development Department 172 00:11:45,590 --> 00:11:48,170 is bringing forward is a resolution 173 00:11:48,170 --> 00:11:50,780 to vacate a certain property. 174 00:11:50,780 --> 00:11:52,300 That was. 175 00:11:52,300 --> 00:11:55,660 Allocated as an alleyway. 176 00:11:55,660 --> 00:12:02,140 The property is located in 120 North block Tavares. 177 00:12:02,140 --> 00:12:03,880 The adjacent property owner, which 178 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,790 is Saint John's independent free Methodist church, 179 00:12:06,790 --> 00:12:10,220 has requested to vacate it. 180 00:12:10,220 --> 00:12:12,920 It's undeveloped and it's not practical 181 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,160 for any future alleyway. 182 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,560 If you can see in the location map, 183 00:12:18,560 --> 00:12:23,360 if you can go a little bit more, it kind of ends 184 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,310 right at the South portion. 185 00:12:25,310 --> 00:12:31,310 So there is no plans to further that any. 186 00:12:31,310 --> 00:12:32,880 City staff has reviewed it. 187 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:37,700 Other departments like public works and utilities reviewed it 188 00:12:37,700 --> 00:12:42,320 and all of them confirmed that it should be vacated. 189 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,780 There was no conflicts and making the right of way 190 00:12:44,780 --> 00:12:47,070 for drainage, utilities, health, safety, 191 00:12:47,070 --> 00:12:48,840 and welfare of the public. 192 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,640 As a result, the official vacation will remove the city's 193 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,190 public interest in this land. 194 00:12:56,190 --> 00:12:59,870 Our recommendations to approve it. 195 00:12:59,870 --> 00:13:03,800 The planning and zoning board voters 196 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,490 voted unanimously to recommend approval of resolution 197 00:13:07,490 --> 00:13:09,830 24 1 as presented. 198 00:13:09,830 --> 00:13:14,900 And you have our official staff recommendation in the packet. 199 00:13:14,900 --> 00:13:19,430 The resolution has a better picture with the zoning, 200 00:13:19,430 --> 00:13:21,140 with the actual legal description 201 00:13:21,140 --> 00:13:23,240 and sketch description of the property 202 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:28,230 as legalized by approval. 203 00:13:28,230 --> 00:13:29,570 Have any questions for staff? 204 00:13:29,570 --> 00:13:30,410 I'm here. 205 00:13:30,410 --> 00:13:33,080 I believe the applicant might be here 206 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,770 if he wants to say anything. 207 00:13:36,770 --> 00:13:38,275 you don't have to, but. 208 00:13:38,275 --> 00:13:41,230 209 00:13:41,230 --> 00:13:44,020 Thank you, counsel. 210 00:13:44,020 --> 00:13:45,430 Have a question, Miss Bray. 211 00:13:45,430 --> 00:13:48,910 Is this alleyway is currently named? 212 00:13:48,910 --> 00:13:49,795 No, sir. 213 00:13:49,795 --> 00:13:50,295 No named. 214 00:13:50,295 --> 00:13:52,860 215 00:13:52,860 --> 00:13:56,070 Does the property on the west, the property on the east, 216 00:13:56,070 --> 00:13:59,460 are they owned by the same person? 217 00:13:59,460 --> 00:14:00,220 Yes, they are. 218 00:14:00,220 --> 00:14:03,530 219 00:14:03,530 --> 00:14:05,310 Anyone else. 220 00:14:05,310 --> 00:14:06,200 Would you like to move on? 221 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:07,670 I'll make a motion to approve. 222 00:14:07,670 --> 00:14:10,320 Second we have a motion to approve in the second. 223 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:11,750 All in favor? 224 00:14:11,750 --> 00:14:13,490 Opposed? 225 00:14:13,490 --> 00:14:14,970 very good. 226 00:14:14,970 --> 00:14:18,690 Passes on a tab for. 227 00:14:18,690 --> 00:14:20,730 First budget Amendment for fiscal year 228 00:14:20,730 --> 00:14:24,920 2020 for finance department. 229 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:25,890 Thank you, mayor. 230 00:14:25,890 --> 00:14:27,180 Members of council. 231 00:14:27,180 --> 00:14:30,230 This is a ministerial administrative function 232 00:14:30,230 --> 00:14:32,600 that we do every year, bringing prior year 233 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,520 into the current year. 234 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,300 Resolution 2020 403 amends fiscal year 235 00:14:38,300 --> 00:14:43,580 2023 2024 city of Tavares annual operating budget. 236 00:14:43,580 --> 00:14:46,250 The attached resolution represents increases 237 00:14:46,250 --> 00:14:51,270 and/or decreases to the adopted budget for fiscal year 2024. 238 00:14:51,270 --> 00:14:53,750 Appropriation increases represent 239 00:14:53,750 --> 00:14:57,500 capital projects, ARPA expenditures and prior year 240 00:14:57,500 --> 00:14:59,120 encumbrance rollovers. 241 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,510 In addition, the resolution includes transfers 242 00:15:02,510 --> 00:15:05,570 between individual accounts within the adopted budgets 243 00:15:05,570 --> 00:15:07,970 for all departments. 244 00:15:07,970 --> 00:15:11,540 The options for council is to approve resolution 2020 245 00:15:11,540 --> 00:15:18,380 403 amending 2324 annual operating budget 246 00:15:18,380 --> 00:15:21,570 or not to approve and. 247 00:15:21,570 --> 00:15:25,020 Fiscal impact is bringing things forward from prior year. 248 00:15:25,020 --> 00:15:27,160 So, mayor, back to you. 249 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:28,040 Thank you. 250 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:28,780 Thank you. 251 00:15:28,780 --> 00:15:29,440 Very good. 252 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,530 Council I'll make a motion to approve the resolution. 253 00:15:33,530 --> 00:15:35,800 Second we have a motion to approve. 254 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:36,300 And second. 255 00:15:36,300 --> 00:15:37,400 All in favor? 256 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:38,200 Aye opposed? 257 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,550 258 00:15:41,550 --> 00:15:46,890 OK once again, tab 5 one item crossing crossings 259 00:15:46,890 --> 00:15:48,360 is only in the first ring, so we'll 260 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:53,460 move on to tab seven transmittal hearing community development. 261 00:15:53,460 --> 00:15:54,920 Thank you, mayor. 262 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:56,410 Um, this is. 263 00:15:56,410 --> 00:15:59,880 This is a transmittal ordinance, and that's why it's being read. 264 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,160 Um, it's open to the public as well 265 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:06,300 because it's a text Amendment to the, to our comprehensive plan. 266 00:16:06,300 --> 00:16:10,560 There's two elements that were changed or added 267 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,690 was the public facilities element 268 00:16:12,690 --> 00:16:15,300 and the conservation element. 269 00:16:15,300 --> 00:16:18,700 And they were all pursuant to the city's 10 year water 270 00:16:18,700 --> 00:16:21,720 supply facility work plan. 271 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:26,560 And regional water supply planning initiatives. 272 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:31,020 So it was the basis of two Florida statute conditions 273 00:16:31,020 --> 00:16:34,050 that we had to make some minor changes 274 00:16:34,050 --> 00:16:36,600 to the comprehensive plan. 275 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,990 Um, most notably your packet. 276 00:16:39,990 --> 00:16:42,210 It should have been highlighted the changes 277 00:16:42,210 --> 00:16:45,900 and underlying most notably, most notably 278 00:16:45,900 --> 00:16:50,010 is the actual plan is being adopted 279 00:16:50,010 --> 00:16:52,320 in the comprehensive plan. 280 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:58,290 We also caveated that if changes there is or as 281 00:16:58,290 --> 00:17:00,630 amended because sometimes there's scrivener's errors 282 00:17:00,630 --> 00:17:03,060 and stuff in situations like that, 283 00:17:03,060 --> 00:17:05,280 it is still going to be valid and this 284 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,050 is what we're going to follow. 285 00:17:07,050 --> 00:17:10,270 The other ones are kind of straightforward on that. 286 00:17:10,270 --> 00:17:13,560 We're mandated by the regional Planning Council 287 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:17,430 and in your packet also was the whole 10 year 288 00:17:17,430 --> 00:17:20,940 water supply facility work plan for your review 289 00:17:20,940 --> 00:17:24,810 and consideration. 290 00:17:24,810 --> 00:17:30,390 US and on January 18th, 2024, the planning and zoning 291 00:17:30,390 --> 00:17:33,150 board voted unanimously to recommend 292 00:17:33,150 --> 00:17:35,490 approval of the ordinance. 293 00:17:35,490 --> 00:17:39,450 2020 403 as presented. 294 00:17:39,450 --> 00:17:42,030 Staff is recommending the city moves 295 00:17:42,030 --> 00:17:46,440 to approve the transmittal to the state for review of 20 296 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:50,130 of 2020 403 comprehensive plan 2040 297 00:17:50,130 --> 00:17:54,850 text Amendment to the future facilities element. 298 00:17:54,850 --> 00:17:58,110 The conservation element pursuant to the city's 10 year 299 00:17:58,110 --> 00:18:04,130 water supply facility, work plan and regional water supply plan. 300 00:18:04,130 --> 00:18:09,770 301 00:18:09,770 --> 00:18:11,560 You have any questions on it? 302 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:17,230 It's in the packet or on the staff report. 303 00:18:17,230 --> 00:18:18,000 Thank you, Antonio. 304 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:22,910 Any questions or comments regarding. 305 00:18:22,910 --> 00:18:26,300 2403 I'll make a motion then that we 306 00:18:26,300 --> 00:18:30,000 approve ordinance 2020 403. 307 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:30,930 I'll second it. 308 00:18:30,930 --> 00:18:33,700 Here we have a motion and a second to approve. 309 00:18:33,700 --> 00:18:34,860 All in favor? 310 00:18:34,860 --> 00:18:37,570 Aye all opposed. 311 00:18:37,570 --> 00:18:38,290 All right. 312 00:18:38,290 --> 00:18:39,670 So move. 313 00:18:39,670 --> 00:18:40,340 There we go. 314 00:18:40,340 --> 00:18:42,200 Tab a broad budget. 315 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:47,260 Priorities Mr Drury, as provided for in the prior city council 316 00:18:47,260 --> 00:18:49,540 meeting, an opportunity is provided this council meeting 317 00:18:49,540 --> 00:18:54,970 to city council develop its 25th October 1 2024 318 00:18:54,970 --> 00:18:59,980 to September 30th, 2025 budget goals which the city manager 319 00:18:59,980 --> 00:19:03,490 will use as guiding principles and a starting point 320 00:19:03,490 --> 00:19:08,050 to build the annual city budget over the next several months. 321 00:19:08,050 --> 00:19:10,960 Budget will then be presented back to the city council 322 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,880 this summer. 323 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,350 Thereafter the council will continue 324 00:19:14,350 --> 00:19:17,170 to refine it through July and August 325 00:19:17,170 --> 00:19:21,040 and finally finalize it in September 326 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:25,720 with public commentary and input along the way. 327 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,950 I've provided prior year budget goals. 328 00:19:29,950 --> 00:19:32,560 The current list of projects and initiatives that 329 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:38,860 are underway and then a draft of your council goals 330 00:19:38,860 --> 00:19:42,260 for the ensuing year. 331 00:19:42,260 --> 00:19:47,990 What I would recommend is we. 332 00:19:47,990 --> 00:19:53,060 Go look at the goals and the order 333 00:19:53,060 --> 00:19:55,680 and see if anybody has any issue with any of those goals. 334 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,030 If you do and three of you do, then they'll be removed. 335 00:19:59,030 --> 00:20:01,700 If you don't, then they'll stay. 336 00:20:01,700 --> 00:20:06,620 And whatever the collective goals are from all five of you 337 00:20:06,620 --> 00:20:10,910 will then be incorporated into the budgeting process. 338 00:20:10,910 --> 00:20:14,510 And I think that is the first attachment. 339 00:20:14,510 --> 00:20:15,950 Agenda item. 340 00:20:15,950 --> 00:20:17,610 Back to you, mayor. 341 00:20:17,610 --> 00:20:19,700 Thank you. 342 00:20:19,700 --> 00:20:23,370 Um, through the first 5 and see if anyone has any objections. 343 00:20:23,370 --> 00:20:26,580 344 00:20:26,580 --> 00:20:28,420 And like can. 345 00:20:28,420 --> 00:20:33,520 I'm going to read you like so Bobby Grenier playing the New 346 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:40,270 to various frontier along State Road 19 561 448 corridor with 347 00:20:40,270 --> 00:20:42,970 no sprawl and be mindful of economic residential 348 00:20:42,970 --> 00:20:49,070 development, land conservation and possible convention center. 349 00:20:49,070 --> 00:20:51,230 Any issues with that. 350 00:20:51,230 --> 00:20:53,870 Seeing none continue to make sure that the various History 351 00:20:53,870 --> 00:20:55,430 Museum and the various library have 352 00:20:55,430 --> 00:21:01,280 the resources needed to maintain the high level of service. 353 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,800 They purchase the home of the major Saint 354 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:08,370 Clair Abrams, the founder of the and Lake County. 355 00:21:08,370 --> 00:21:10,920 Well, we've already met on that, haven't we? 356 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,830 It's already been defeated. 357 00:21:12,830 --> 00:21:16,650 OK so that's. 358 00:21:16,650 --> 00:21:21,230 Out keep streets, alleyways, stormwater improvements going 359 00:21:21,230 --> 00:21:23,900 and at a high level of service. 360 00:21:23,900 --> 00:21:27,770 Provide for the resources police and fire department 361 00:21:27,770 --> 00:21:31,300 need to ensure they maintain their high level of service. 362 00:21:31,300 --> 00:21:33,820 363 00:21:33,820 --> 00:21:37,180 Vice mayor Sandy gamble deliver budget at rollback, 364 00:21:37,180 --> 00:21:39,880 then allow council to make additions 365 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:45,650 as necessary for the final budget clarification. 366 00:21:45,650 --> 00:21:47,320 I talked about this. 367 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:51,490 What my desire that is we keep hearing take us to rollback, 368 00:21:51,490 --> 00:21:54,430 take us to rollback would like and I've asked him 369 00:21:54,430 --> 00:21:55,780 and he said he could do it. 370 00:21:55,780 --> 00:21:57,920 It's not so much that we have a budget. 371 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,030 That's right at rollback but that we show if we 372 00:22:01,030 --> 00:22:03,220 were to go back to rollback. 373 00:22:03,220 --> 00:22:05,180 This is what would have to be cut. 374 00:22:05,180 --> 00:22:08,420 Services would have to be cut, employees manpower. 375 00:22:08,420 --> 00:22:09,670 And I don't think that's something 376 00:22:09,670 --> 00:22:12,340 we want to do when we're increasing manpower, especially 377 00:22:12,340 --> 00:22:13,630 in the fire department. 378 00:22:13,630 --> 00:22:15,800 But I just want to point this out. 379 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,730 So the citizens know if they keep, you 380 00:22:18,730 --> 00:22:20,630 know, take us back to rollback. 381 00:22:20,630 --> 00:22:22,880 Well, this is what it would lose if we did that. 382 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,900 So that's my intent, that it's not so much that I'm saying 383 00:22:25,900 --> 00:22:27,790 I want to go to the rollback just 384 00:22:27,790 --> 00:22:30,820 to show the public what it would take to do that. 385 00:22:30,820 --> 00:22:34,020 Isn't that double work for the staff? 386 00:22:34,020 --> 00:22:39,150 I mean, if you're going I don't have an issue with identifying 387 00:22:39,150 --> 00:22:42,150 rollback rate and the dollar associated with it 388 00:22:42,150 --> 00:22:45,920 and correlating that to. 389 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,170 How it correlates to all the services. 390 00:22:49,170 --> 00:22:50,690 I think we can do that. 391 00:22:50,690 --> 00:22:54,260 You'll have that and I don't have a problem with that. 392 00:22:54,260 --> 00:22:55,260 We can add it to our. 393 00:22:55,260 --> 00:22:58,820 394 00:22:58,820 --> 00:23:02,940 Maintain the level of service. 395 00:23:02,940 --> 00:23:06,510 Continue and finish capital projects. 396 00:23:06,510 --> 00:23:08,860 Sidewalk replacement where needed. 397 00:23:08,860 --> 00:23:11,750 Adopt new impact fees for residential housing. 398 00:23:11,750 --> 00:23:14,810 399 00:23:14,810 --> 00:23:16,740 You know, and that one, what we're 400 00:23:16,740 --> 00:23:22,870 going to need to do is probably, Agendize 401 00:23:22,870 --> 00:23:25,750 that to get an understanding what the collective wisdom 402 00:23:25,750 --> 00:23:27,020 of the board is. 403 00:23:27,020 --> 00:23:29,740 Is it increase or decrease? 404 00:23:29,740 --> 00:23:33,310 Is it to increase revenues, decrease things of that nature? 405 00:23:33,310 --> 00:23:37,150 I would agendize that first to discuss 406 00:23:37,150 --> 00:23:38,860 what it is you're looking for. 407 00:23:38,860 --> 00:23:42,670 Once you vote on that, then I'll either reduce the budget 408 00:23:42,670 --> 00:23:45,490 or increase the budget based on your final vote. 409 00:23:45,490 --> 00:23:49,840 Would that also include the parks impact fees? 410 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:50,930 It include all? 411 00:23:50,930 --> 00:23:54,970 Yeah in other words, the residential housing, 412 00:23:54,970 --> 00:23:57,830 the impact fees are involved with that. 413 00:23:57,830 --> 00:24:00,590 Our impact fees haven't been touched in years 414 00:24:00,590 --> 00:24:03,060 and we're losing financing. 415 00:24:03,060 --> 00:24:06,350 And what is happening is in a lot of new development, 416 00:24:06,350 --> 00:24:08,330 because the impact fees that we're getting 417 00:24:08,330 --> 00:24:11,210 is not enough to take care of everything that we need. 418 00:24:11,210 --> 00:24:13,580 The people that have been here 30, 40, 50 years 419 00:24:13,580 --> 00:24:15,260 are having to make up the difference 420 00:24:15,260 --> 00:24:16,710 because we have to get loans. 421 00:24:16,710 --> 00:24:21,620 So when we do that agenda, we can discuss that a little bit 422 00:24:21,620 --> 00:24:22,745 further. 423 00:24:22,745 --> 00:24:23,245 I agree. 424 00:24:23,245 --> 00:24:27,760 425 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,630 Finalize the Stover complex. 426 00:24:31,630 --> 00:24:36,920 Transfer to the Lake County school board, which that is. 427 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:41,430 Uh, we're in the middle of doing that, so I think that'll be, 428 00:24:41,430 --> 00:24:44,490 In time with this budget, continue to lower debt 429 00:24:44,490 --> 00:24:46,240 and not go into further debt. 430 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,530 And as you know, that's a board decision. 431 00:24:49,530 --> 00:24:53,640 When that comes before you. 432 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,340 Councilmember Pfister continue improvements and renovations of 433 00:24:56,340 --> 00:24:58,350 the Regional Park East Campus. 434 00:24:58,350 --> 00:24:59,590 We continue to do that. 435 00:24:59,590 --> 00:25:03,760 We're working with the County and we'll incorporate that. 436 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,150 Restructure impact fees. 437 00:25:05,150 --> 00:25:08,260 Again, we just talked about incentives 438 00:25:08,260 --> 00:25:11,360 for economic development. 439 00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:16,600 Continue efforts for golf cart crossing at the hospital. 440 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,020 Downtown lighting improvements for safety. 441 00:25:20,020 --> 00:25:21,460 Improvements and explore possible 442 00:25:21,460 --> 00:25:26,670 commercial participation at pontoon promenade. 443 00:25:26,670 --> 00:25:28,620 Lobby local lawmakers to legislate 444 00:25:28,620 --> 00:25:30,200 the closing of gaming rooms. 445 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,810 446 00:25:32,810 --> 00:25:38,060 Increase their family oriented small events and activities. 447 00:25:38,060 --> 00:25:40,730 Assure that employee pay and benefits are competitive 448 00:25:40,730 --> 00:25:42,925 to attract and retain the best. 449 00:25:42,925 --> 00:25:46,280 450 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,040 Council member price try to get to the rollback rate. 451 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,375 And if not, continue to lower millage rate. 452 00:25:52,375 --> 00:25:55,050 453 00:25:55,050 --> 00:25:57,870 Accelerate city debt repayments. 454 00:25:57,870 --> 00:26:02,060 Although current interest rates might postpone this. 455 00:26:02,060 --> 00:26:04,790 Continue to pursue grants, provide the same level 456 00:26:04,790 --> 00:26:07,760 of service to our residents, increase 457 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:12,010 reserves, accomplish the waste the West Main Street gateway. 458 00:26:12,010 --> 00:26:14,960 459 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:21,000 Convert existing public works facility to surface parking. 460 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,930 Repaving our roads. 461 00:26:23,930 --> 00:26:26,480 Question about number seven. 462 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,070 There Vert two surface parking. 463 00:26:30,070 --> 00:26:32,310 Thought we were looking at. 464 00:26:32,310 --> 00:26:33,460 Putting it in garage. 465 00:26:33,460 --> 00:26:36,960 Yes, I think it'll be in phases. 466 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:37,990 We will not. 467 00:26:37,990 --> 00:26:41,940 Have you got a goal not to take any loans out? 468 00:26:41,940 --> 00:26:44,850 And obviously putting a multi-million dollar parking 469 00:26:44,850 --> 00:26:47,560 garage, you have to take a loan out. 470 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:52,150 You've got a goal to create parking over there. 471 00:26:52,150 --> 00:26:54,310 Surface parking. 472 00:26:54,310 --> 00:27:00,920 You might be able to get done without the lone garage. 473 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,020 You will never get that alone. 474 00:27:03,020 --> 00:27:06,100 So this will be phase one. 475 00:27:06,100 --> 00:27:08,000 Surface parking. 476 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,130 Then in the future. 477 00:27:11,130 --> 00:27:12,720 The council. 478 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,500 Go ahead and do the garage. 479 00:27:14,500 --> 00:27:17,840 Yeah, the my intent there was. 480 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,850 To make that surface parking as an interim. 481 00:27:21,850 --> 00:27:26,590 Thing Uh, if we see that it's constantly full, 482 00:27:26,590 --> 00:27:29,650 constantly overfilled and start looking 483 00:27:29,650 --> 00:27:31,630 at the next phase of that. 484 00:27:31,630 --> 00:27:35,830 But you said that we may not even have to do that 485 00:27:35,830 --> 00:27:38,410 without any debt or anything. 486 00:27:38,410 --> 00:27:39,970 Uh, as I recall, our mayor said he 487 00:27:39,970 --> 00:27:41,710 was willing to get a bulldozer and start 488 00:27:41,710 --> 00:27:43,040 knocking buildings down. 489 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,190 So that should ought help, because that 490 00:27:45,190 --> 00:27:46,200 will reduce the cost. 491 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,510 492 00:27:49,510 --> 00:27:53,170 Hey Councilmember singer continue 493 00:27:53,170 --> 00:27:55,900 lowering the millage rate. 494 00:27:55,900 --> 00:27:58,470 Maintain recommended reserve levels. 495 00:27:58,470 --> 00:28:03,930 Continue to invest in road repaving and infrastructure. 496 00:28:03,930 --> 00:28:06,750 Continue to go after grants. 497 00:28:06,750 --> 00:28:10,050 Be sure that all departments are properly staffed 498 00:28:10,050 --> 00:28:14,320 and every employee is fairly compensated. 499 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,130 Look for ways to clean the On gateway 500 00:28:18,130 --> 00:28:20,390 drive and North Duncan drive. 501 00:28:20,390 --> 00:28:23,080 502 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:23,910 All righty. 503 00:28:23,910 --> 00:28:29,470 So I've got the collective goals for the city council 504 00:28:29,470 --> 00:28:32,790 for FY 25 budget department directors, 505 00:28:32,790 --> 00:28:35,880 and I will be meeting next week to incorporate those 506 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,470 into their work plans and budget plans. 507 00:28:38,470 --> 00:28:41,790 Then we will come back with you with a balanced budget 508 00:28:41,790 --> 00:28:45,660 this summer for your deliberation and tweaking 509 00:28:45,660 --> 00:28:49,680 and adding and doing what you do with public input 510 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:50,880 along the way. 511 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:51,990 Back to you, mayor. 512 00:28:51,990 --> 00:28:52,980 Thank you. 513 00:28:52,980 --> 00:29:01,050 Something about this on, um, on Mayor Grenier, on number three 514 00:29:01,050 --> 00:29:02,170 the purchase of the home. 515 00:29:02,170 --> 00:29:03,970 And I know we've already been there. 516 00:29:03,970 --> 00:29:06,090 We've already voted no, but I don't 517 00:29:06,090 --> 00:29:08,880 think it's fair to say it won't be discussed again 518 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,550 because there's a lot of different ways 519 00:29:11,550 --> 00:29:13,480 that maybe the money can be found. 520 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,760 I, I don't think the mayor was as prepared as he should have 521 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,380 been when he presented this. 522 00:29:19,380 --> 00:29:22,090 There is a whole lot of different ways to find money. 523 00:29:22,090 --> 00:29:24,430 So I don't want us just to close our eyes 524 00:29:24,430 --> 00:29:27,110 and say it can't be done or we won't hear it again. 525 00:29:27,110 --> 00:29:30,340 This kind of reminds me years and years and years ago, 526 00:29:30,340 --> 00:29:33,340 back when we were in one of our worst economic times, 527 00:29:33,340 --> 00:29:35,440 I wanted to build a dog park. 528 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,600 Tabriz didn't have a dog park, and nobody 529 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:38,720 y'all wouldn't spend money. 530 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,720 And I remember the mayor at the time 531 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,810 when I brought it back like the third time, and the mayor said, 532 00:29:43,810 --> 00:29:45,500 you're not going to have a dog park. 533 00:29:45,500 --> 00:29:47,830 And I said, well, if I find the money 534 00:29:47,830 --> 00:29:51,040 and I have a dog park any right here on record and said, 535 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,070 if you find the money, you can have a dog park. 536 00:29:54,070 --> 00:29:57,250 Well, I already had that ammunition in my back pocket 537 00:29:57,250 --> 00:29:58,490 and we have a dog park. 538 00:29:58,490 --> 00:30:02,500 So I'm just saying that I hate to do that to the mayor 539 00:30:02,500 --> 00:30:04,780 when something is near and dear to your heart, 540 00:30:04,780 --> 00:30:06,580 give him the opportunity to go out 541 00:30:06,580 --> 00:30:10,030 and try to find the funding without the city. 542 00:30:10,030 --> 00:30:11,060 That's all I'm asking. 543 00:30:11,060 --> 00:30:15,580 If we could do that without saying no. 544 00:30:15,580 --> 00:30:16,820 What do y'all think about that? 545 00:30:16,820 --> 00:30:20,540 I mean, I'm OK with that, but. 546 00:30:20,540 --> 00:30:24,850 I've already talked to some individuals and they. 547 00:30:24,850 --> 00:30:27,760 Like we don't need to be in that business. 548 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,110 I understand that, too. 549 00:30:29,110 --> 00:30:32,240 And one of them was one that. 550 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,145 A breakfast with. 551 00:30:33,145 --> 00:30:35,920 552 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:40,460 On this case, he kind of changed his mind on that statement. 553 00:30:40,460 --> 00:30:44,090 But like I say, no, I'm open minded. 554 00:30:44,090 --> 00:30:47,150 OK that's all I was asking for. 555 00:30:47,150 --> 00:30:48,770 That's all I'm asking, because let's just 556 00:30:48,770 --> 00:30:51,800 be open minded and fair here and at least 557 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:52,980 give him the opportunity. 558 00:30:52,980 --> 00:30:55,280 I mean, not to come back and ask us for the money, 559 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,920 but to come back and say, I found the money. 560 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,930 Right absolutely. 561 00:30:59,930 --> 00:31:01,310 I mean, that's vision. 562 00:31:01,310 --> 00:31:04,520 That's looking forward to the future, 563 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,130 seeing what can be done using your imagination. 564 00:31:08,130 --> 00:31:09,610 Way of getting things done. 565 00:31:09,610 --> 00:31:12,430 Absolutely just don't Chuck it off to the side. 566 00:31:12,430 --> 00:31:13,850 Appreciate those thoughts. 567 00:31:13,850 --> 00:31:14,350 Thank you. 568 00:31:14,350 --> 00:31:16,740 And I easily can find a lot of people 569 00:31:16,740 --> 00:31:20,020 as well who would say, why don't we get something like that? 570 00:31:20,020 --> 00:31:21,370 Why can't we have something like that? 571 00:31:21,370 --> 00:31:22,920 So anyways, yeah, give me the opportunity 572 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,350 to see what I can do. 573 00:31:25,350 --> 00:31:28,890 Financial impact any of the budget at all, 574 00:31:28,890 --> 00:31:31,660 and I appreciate you all allowing me to do that. 575 00:31:31,660 --> 00:31:32,530 Thank you very much. 576 00:31:32,530 --> 00:31:33,760 Have somebody here. 577 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,780 So just to be clear here, three people 578 00:31:36,780 --> 00:31:42,090 approving that in the budget to be funded by others 579 00:31:42,090 --> 00:31:43,810 if it's funded by others. 580 00:31:43,810 --> 00:31:45,270 OK Thank you. 581 00:31:45,270 --> 00:31:46,150 Thank you. 582 00:31:46,150 --> 00:31:47,310 Thank you. 583 00:31:47,310 --> 00:31:52,440 Bear in mind that also means that in the years beyond, 584 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,550 we have to staff it and maintain it. 585 00:31:54,550 --> 00:31:56,120 So where is that finance? 586 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,090 Well, we can discuss that when we get to it. 587 00:31:58,090 --> 00:31:58,950 That's fine. 588 00:31:58,950 --> 00:32:01,450 Talking about that hadn't spilled yet. 589 00:32:01,450 --> 00:32:07,670 So just putting it out there and there's and Thank 590 00:32:07,670 --> 00:32:08,780 you for putting it out there. 591 00:32:08,780 --> 00:32:11,750 But there's a lot of things everywhere 592 00:32:11,750 --> 00:32:13,590 of how to stay up there. 593 00:32:13,590 --> 00:32:15,390 We need staffing for so many things. 594 00:32:15,390 --> 00:32:18,240 So that's something we'll discuss as we go along there. 595 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,300 But I appreciate you mentioning that. 596 00:32:20,300 --> 00:32:21,420 So that is a concern. 597 00:32:21,420 --> 00:32:25,190 And that's something we'll talk about. 598 00:32:25,190 --> 00:32:28,870 this is tab eight, isn't it? 599 00:32:28,870 --> 00:32:29,750 Uh, tab eight. 600 00:32:29,750 --> 00:32:31,940 Yeah, because somebody here wants to speak 601 00:32:31,940 --> 00:32:34,900 on tab Vance Vance Yoakam. 602 00:32:34,900 --> 00:32:40,060 603 00:32:40,060 --> 00:32:41,300 Good afternoon. 604 00:32:41,300 --> 00:32:46,260 Tavares is Vance Yoakam 1261 Waukee Avenue Tavares. 605 00:32:46,260 --> 00:32:47,470 It's been a while. 606 00:32:47,470 --> 00:32:51,430 Yeah, just but, you know, I look at the budget, I mean, 607 00:32:51,430 --> 00:32:53,330 the agenda budget. 608 00:32:53,330 --> 00:32:56,320 And I didn't say, I got to say something. 609 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:57,830 I missed the last one. 610 00:32:57,830 --> 00:33:01,160 So and I have not had a chance to look at that. 611 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,070 So the comments are going to make are kind of broad brush. 612 00:33:04,070 --> 00:33:07,340 You may actually maybe you approved it and it's in there. 613 00:33:07,340 --> 00:33:07,960 I don't know. 614 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:14,080 But I will follow up on that as one is that I would like 615 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,350 to reiterate the discussion that you had about going 616 00:33:17,350 --> 00:33:18,960 to the rollback rate. 617 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:23,530 I really believe that in this economy and the uncertainties 618 00:33:23,530 --> 00:33:27,820 that the cap is spending at the rollback rate period, 619 00:33:27,820 --> 00:33:29,950 just that, that we're going to live within, 620 00:33:29,950 --> 00:33:33,880 that there's a lot of economic indicators 621 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,870 that you probably should have a report on. 622 00:33:37,870 --> 00:33:40,670 Maybe Mr Murray knows somebody in the industry that 623 00:33:40,670 --> 00:33:42,860 can come up with those to show you 624 00:33:42,860 --> 00:33:45,560 how good or bad the economy is. 625 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,780 For instance, a lot of the press is saying 626 00:33:47,780 --> 00:33:49,620 there's all this job growth. 627 00:33:49,620 --> 00:33:51,690 Biden is saying it and everything else. 628 00:33:51,690 --> 00:33:53,090 Well, there's also a report out that 629 00:33:53,090 --> 00:33:56,690 says they studied the last four years of growth and all of it 630 00:33:56,690 --> 00:33:58,800 was foreign born people. 631 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:03,020 Nobody no Americans actually got more jobs. 632 00:34:03,020 --> 00:34:06,030 So I think you should be aware of that. 633 00:34:06,030 --> 00:34:10,639 So that you can assess your decisions in light of how it's 634 00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:12,560 going to impact your local residents, 635 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,380 whether it's foreclosures and other leading 636 00:34:15,380 --> 00:34:21,259 indicators on economics going up or down next is that. 637 00:34:21,259 --> 00:34:23,889 638 00:34:23,889 --> 00:34:26,800 I would ask that you set measurable performance 639 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,920 benchmarks by department and be included 640 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,199 within the budget statistics. 641 00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:36,670 I think you still get the kind of benchmark consortium report, 642 00:34:36,670 --> 00:34:38,360 but you don't make it public. 643 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,440 And I think that we ought to have public benchmarks 644 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,100 showing a goal for improvement in operating 645 00:34:45,100 --> 00:34:47,150 ratios by department. 646 00:34:47,150 --> 00:34:52,570 And then the actual is that probably at least quarterly. 647 00:34:52,570 --> 00:34:57,310 Let's, you know, set some goals that show that you're 648 00:34:57,310 --> 00:35:02,750 trying to contain cost growth. 649 00:35:02,750 --> 00:35:10,230 He to various nature park. 650 00:35:10,230 --> 00:35:11,870 Didn't hear discussion of that. 651 00:35:11,870 --> 00:35:15,110 I'll have more details during the regular input section, 652 00:35:15,110 --> 00:35:19,790 but I think you really need to start planning for rebuilding 653 00:35:19,790 --> 00:35:22,910 that fishing dock out there and the boardwalk that's been 654 00:35:22,910 --> 00:35:24,990 neglected and not maintained. 655 00:35:24,990 --> 00:35:27,830 The County is just entertained and approved 656 00:35:27,830 --> 00:35:33,560 a study of citizens to float a $5,050 million 657 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,730 bond issue on new public lands because the old one 658 00:35:37,730 --> 00:35:42,180 they had for $30 million is expiring in a year or two. 659 00:35:42,180 --> 00:35:45,580 And so, of course, the bond salesman is already pushing it. 660 00:35:45,580 --> 00:35:47,620 Thank you and great to see you again. 661 00:35:47,620 --> 00:35:50,330 Thank you. 662 00:35:50,330 --> 00:35:54,450 OK all right. 663 00:35:54,450 --> 00:35:55,230 How are we? 664 00:35:55,230 --> 00:35:59,590 Any more discussion on tab eight there? 665 00:35:59,590 --> 00:36:01,690 We know how to proceed. 666 00:36:01,690 --> 00:36:03,090 So good. 667 00:36:03,090 --> 00:36:03,590 All righty. 668 00:36:03,590 --> 00:36:05,680 Any more discussion on this? 669 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,240 No OK. 670 00:36:07,240 --> 00:36:11,620 Um, go to Tabnine medical marijuana dispensary. 671 00:36:11,620 --> 00:36:12,650 Current city ordinance. 672 00:36:12,650 --> 00:36:16,050 Community development. 673 00:36:16,050 --> 00:36:18,540 Thank you, Mr Mayor. 674 00:36:18,540 --> 00:36:21,570 This is a discussing item at the last council 675 00:36:21,570 --> 00:36:24,730 meeting requested by council member Laurie Pfister. 676 00:36:24,730 --> 00:36:28,110 The city council voted to discuss the current medical 677 00:36:28,110 --> 00:36:30,570 marijuana dispensary ordinance. 678 00:36:30,570 --> 00:36:35,790 So I made a report on how it was adopted and a timeline, 679 00:36:35,790 --> 00:36:37,710 and I can go over that. 680 00:36:37,710 --> 00:36:42,330 On August 20th, 2014, the city of Tavares 681 00:36:42,330 --> 00:36:47,880 passed ordinance 20 1412, which added the city regulations 682 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,210 and definitions of medical marijuana dispensaries 683 00:36:51,210 --> 00:36:54,510 and amended the chapter 8 and table 8 684 00:36:54,510 --> 00:36:57,390 to permitted and special uses, allowing 685 00:36:57,390 --> 00:37:02,700 medical marijuana dispensaries in the c-2 highway 686 00:37:02,700 --> 00:37:06,660 commercial district only. 687 00:37:06,660 --> 00:37:11,250 However, what happened was on June 23rd, 2017, 688 00:37:11,250 --> 00:37:17,370 the Florida legislature passed Senate Bill eight, a amending 689 00:37:17,370 --> 00:37:23,220 Florida statute 381986, requiring that local government 690 00:37:23,220 --> 00:37:27,510 agencies either ban medical marijuana dispensaries 691 00:37:27,510 --> 00:37:32,820 within their boundaries or allow dispensaries to operate 692 00:37:32,820 --> 00:37:36,450 within the same zoning districts that would allow 693 00:37:36,450 --> 00:37:41,680 pharmacies to be to operate. 694 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:47,120 So on December 20th, 2017. 695 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:51,710 Aveiro city council adopted ordinance 20 1721, 696 00:37:51,710 --> 00:37:56,080 which restricted medical marijuana dispensaries. 697 00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:00,010 Two only located on the commercial downtown, 698 00:38:00,010 --> 00:38:06,440 which is Main Street and some of the zero 19 general commercial. 699 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,120 See one again? 700 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,640 See that's stable 19 and commercial use. 701 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,390 Those are the zonings are. 702 00:38:14,390 --> 00:38:17,620 And we already adopted highway commercial two 703 00:38:17,620 --> 00:38:20,290 zoning districts. 704 00:38:20,290 --> 00:38:24,190 I attach in the report, all the ordinances 705 00:38:24,190 --> 00:38:30,930 and the Florida Senate Bill that was approved and full time. 706 00:38:30,930 --> 00:38:33,280 So I'm here to just answer questions. 707 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:38,580 Or just to be clear, they adopted an ordinance that was 708 00:38:38,580 --> 00:38:40,810 consistent with the statute. 709 00:38:40,810 --> 00:38:44,280 Yes, it's as of this date, the city regulations 710 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,710 are consistent with state law as they 711 00:38:46,710 --> 00:38:50,850 pertain to permitting locations for medical marijuana. 712 00:38:50,850 --> 00:38:54,910 They're only permitted where a pharmacy is permitted. 713 00:38:54,910 --> 00:38:57,860 Yes Thank you. 714 00:38:57,860 --> 00:39:01,580 So the pharmacy permitted in our downtown? 715 00:39:01,580 --> 00:39:05,030 Yes so that's what I wanted to clarify, 716 00:39:05,030 --> 00:39:09,690 because things have changed since I remember. 717 00:39:09,690 --> 00:39:11,450 I was the one that brought this up originally 718 00:39:11,450 --> 00:39:14,120 when we first did this back in 2014, 719 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,450 I was the one the very concerned about medical marijuana 720 00:39:17,450 --> 00:39:18,720 or whatever was going on. 721 00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:20,560 Didn't want it in our city. 722 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,060 Well, things have changed a whole lot since then, 723 00:39:23,060 --> 00:39:27,290 and I think we're losing out on quite a lot of revenue. 724 00:39:27,290 --> 00:39:28,690 We are. 725 00:39:28,690 --> 00:39:31,090 Probably one of the few cities that don't allow 726 00:39:31,090 --> 00:39:34,000 a medical marijuana dispensary. 727 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,870 So and. 728 00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:39,390 I just think it's important that we 729 00:39:39,390 --> 00:39:42,570 discuss this and make a decision on whether or not 730 00:39:42,570 --> 00:39:43,650 we want that revenue. 731 00:39:43,650 --> 00:39:46,170 If we don't take it, someone else is going to get it. 732 00:39:46,170 --> 00:39:50,370 And we've been working so hard to balance our security, 733 00:39:50,370 --> 00:39:54,000 we do allow it well, but we haven't allowed it downtown. 734 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:58,280 We do allow it if anyone wants to have it. 735 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,730 Then why are we came to y'all with this and thought 736 00:40:01,730 --> 00:40:03,230 that's why we were having the discussion 737 00:40:03,230 --> 00:40:06,590 because of the ordinance that we had, they couldn't have 738 00:40:06,590 --> 00:40:08,400 it in our downtown. 739 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,820 That's how I remember it last meeting. 740 00:40:10,820 --> 00:40:11,990 It they can. 741 00:40:11,990 --> 00:40:14,690 They can have it downtown, have a Main Street 742 00:40:14,690 --> 00:40:16,080 miscommunication on my part. 743 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,930 I thought you were talking about manufacturing 744 00:40:17,930 --> 00:40:19,920 and industrial parks or things of that nature. 745 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,820 No, you're talking about the. 746 00:40:22,820 --> 00:40:24,780 Yes, we can have one downtown. 747 00:40:24,780 --> 00:40:25,550 We can have one on. 748 00:40:25,550 --> 00:40:27,470 This is a mute point. 749 00:40:27,470 --> 00:40:32,030 Over I apologize. 750 00:40:32,030 --> 00:40:33,210 Very good. 751 00:40:33,210 --> 00:40:33,840 Strike down. 752 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,000 Up as a win. 753 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,030 Yeah, absolutely. 754 00:40:38,030 --> 00:40:39,170 Got a couple questions. 755 00:40:39,170 --> 00:40:43,520 We have any medical marijuana dispensaries in tavaris now? 756 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,380 We don't have it in our jurisdiction. 757 00:40:47,380 --> 00:40:51,260 OK, so the ordinance is either ban them outright or let 758 00:40:51,260 --> 00:40:53,400 them be in a specific zoning. 759 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:54,750 There's no in between. 760 00:40:54,750 --> 00:40:58,370 Like saying we can only have three like we do with gangs. 761 00:40:58,370 --> 00:40:58,950 No, no. 762 00:40:58,950 --> 00:41:05,000 763 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,560 Happy days. 764 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:07,500 Wonderful all right. 765 00:41:07,500 --> 00:41:09,420 No more discussion on Tabnine. 766 00:41:09,420 --> 00:41:10,820 Very good. 767 00:41:10,820 --> 00:41:13,790 New business. 768 00:41:13,790 --> 00:41:18,260 So go ahead. 769 00:41:18,260 --> 00:41:18,930 Oh, OK. 770 00:41:18,930 --> 00:41:19,790 Oh, no. 771 00:41:19,790 --> 00:41:21,230 Old business. 772 00:41:21,230 --> 00:41:23,690 And y'all remember about the lighting issue and it 773 00:41:23,690 --> 00:41:25,770 was on I've got it on mine. 774 00:41:25,770 --> 00:41:27,480 And I believe someone else had it. 775 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,240 So the other morning it. 776 00:41:31,240 --> 00:41:36,560 At 445, I was coming through downtown. 777 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,020 I was heading up to North Carolina 778 00:41:38,020 --> 00:41:39,920 and I was at the roundabout. 779 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,530 4:45 AM. 780 00:41:42,530 --> 00:41:44,300 There were some people in the ground 781 00:41:44,300 --> 00:41:48,120 down there by the freedom flag. 782 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,000 You can't see him. 783 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,850 Don't under don't know what the lighting 784 00:41:50,850 --> 00:41:52,090 problem is that we have. 785 00:41:52,090 --> 00:41:53,580 Because I told you about other people 786 00:41:53,580 --> 00:41:55,990 that have complained downtown here. 787 00:41:55,990 --> 00:41:58,350 Um, that's the second time it's happened to me now 788 00:41:58,350 --> 00:42:00,030 that just all of a sudden there's people 789 00:42:00,030 --> 00:42:01,840 and you just don't see them. 790 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,200 And I'm. 791 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,820 Alert so that's real important. 792 00:42:05,820 --> 00:42:07,860 Guys, we have got to get on this lighting. 793 00:42:07,860 --> 00:42:10,620 And I think we've issued a contract. 794 00:42:10,620 --> 00:42:13,310 Yes, we did issue a contract and Duke is currently 795 00:42:13,310 --> 00:42:15,380 adding additional well, there's eight 796 00:42:15,380 --> 00:42:18,350 additional lights for existing and they're adding 8 additional 797 00:42:18,350 --> 00:42:19,310 to that area. 798 00:42:19,310 --> 00:42:22,610 Isn't that odd how one spots down here? 799 00:42:22,610 --> 00:42:25,350 And when you look at it, you feel like it's well lit. 800 00:42:25,350 --> 00:42:28,760 But when you're driving, I mean, they just appeared, 801 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,380 you know, from the. 802 00:42:32,380 --> 00:42:36,660 803 00:42:36,660 --> 00:42:40,260 you know, up there, that was who was their engineer 804 00:42:40,260 --> 00:42:41,970 that did this, you know. 805 00:42:41,970 --> 00:42:45,210 But that's been a nightmare. 806 00:42:45,210 --> 00:42:46,120 It was scary. 807 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:52,560 Yeah but what happens, I think, is when you're driving, 808 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,340 it's very, very dark. 809 00:42:54,340 --> 00:42:55,750 And then there's light. 810 00:42:55,750 --> 00:42:57,040 We have down there. 811 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,470 You'll see everything. 812 00:42:58,470 --> 00:43:00,930 But when you're driving in a downtown with bright lights 813 00:43:00,930 --> 00:43:04,050 everywhere and your pupils change, and then 814 00:43:04,050 --> 00:43:06,480 all of a sudden you get a dark spot. 815 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,530 Your pupils do not catch up with that change. 816 00:43:08,530 --> 00:43:14,010 So you have great lighting on 441 and in the Downtown 817 00:43:14,010 --> 00:43:17,400 and all of a sudden dark spots you authorize 818 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,850 a study which we did to identify all 819 00:43:20,850 --> 00:43:23,640 the dark spots which we have. 820 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:28,380 When your pupil adjusts to bright lights. 821 00:43:28,380 --> 00:43:30,390 Those dark spots, which you cannot 822 00:43:30,390 --> 00:43:34,950 adjust quickly, will be lit up and your pupils 823 00:43:34,950 --> 00:43:35,950 don't have to go. 824 00:43:35,950 --> 00:43:36,660 Large small. 825 00:43:36,660 --> 00:43:37,490 Large small. 826 00:43:37,490 --> 00:43:39,050 Along the way. 827 00:43:39,050 --> 00:43:39,550 Thank you. 828 00:43:39,550 --> 00:43:41,200 I just wanted to reiterate. 829 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:42,480 How important was that? 830 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:43,770 Thank you all. 831 00:43:43,770 --> 00:43:48,770 Yes any other old business council? 832 00:43:48,770 --> 00:43:52,770 OK, so we got the audience to be heard and the reminder. 833 00:43:52,770 --> 00:43:55,340 Um, there's no discussion on 5 and 6 834 00:43:55,340 --> 00:43:57,440 item air crossing rezoning. 835 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,510 So if there's anyone audience to be heard 836 00:43:59,510 --> 00:44:02,660 outside of that opportunity now to come up, 837 00:44:02,660 --> 00:44:04,315 you have three minutes, come up to the podium. 838 00:44:04,315 --> 00:44:11,990 839 00:44:11,990 --> 00:44:13,170 Thank you, Mr Mayor. 840 00:44:13,170 --> 00:44:15,380 And council. 841 00:44:15,380 --> 00:44:18,530 Name and address or main address for the record. 842 00:44:18,530 --> 00:44:19,190 I'm sorry. 843 00:44:19,190 --> 00:44:20,550 My name is Donald Kerr. 844 00:44:20,550 --> 00:44:23,020 I'm 16833 Deer Island Road. 845 00:44:23,020 --> 00:44:24,710 Thanks for the reminder. 846 00:44:24,710 --> 00:44:27,720 Um, and I'm very conscious of your Warning. 847 00:44:27,720 --> 00:44:29,810 I'm not here to talk about a specific project, 848 00:44:29,810 --> 00:44:33,020 but I do want to make some general comments about what 849 00:44:33,020 --> 00:44:35,710 I'm observing in our community. 850 00:44:35,710 --> 00:44:39,140 Um, you just discussed your budget, and what I heard was 851 00:44:39,140 --> 00:44:40,460 we have problems. 852 00:44:40,460 --> 00:44:43,980 We don't have enough income, we can't buy firemen, et cetera. 853 00:44:43,980 --> 00:44:44,720 What do we do? 854 00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:50,520 I think it was Mr Gamble who said 30 to 40 to 50 years, 855 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,130 people have been here and they are 856 00:44:52,130 --> 00:44:55,040 now having to make up the differences for the losses 857 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,270 that we have. 858 00:44:56,270 --> 00:44:59,220 So I want to talk for a minute about population growth. 859 00:44:59,220 --> 00:45:01,880 Florida is the number one state in the country 860 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:06,450 for growth in population, far outpacing everyone else. 861 00:45:06,450 --> 00:45:09,390 People are moving here from New York, Chicago, California. 862 00:45:09,390 --> 00:45:11,670 California had a problem a few months ago where 863 00:45:11,670 --> 00:45:15,320 U-Haul ran out of equipment. 864 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,440 Well, if you follow that, I believe that land 865 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,520 is a finite commodity. 866 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:21,650 There's only so much. 867 00:45:21,650 --> 00:45:23,120 How many times have you heard that they're 868 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:24,370 not making any more of it? 869 00:45:24,370 --> 00:45:27,830 So multiple studies and I can bring that information 870 00:45:27,830 --> 00:45:31,940 to the council have shown over time that you lose money 871 00:45:31,940 --> 00:45:35,000 every time you approve a residential project, 872 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,450 whether it's multifamily, single family, high rise. 873 00:45:37,450 --> 00:45:38,250 You lose money. 874 00:45:38,250 --> 00:45:39,500 It's a fact. 875 00:45:39,500 --> 00:45:42,920 So I'm going to tell you a short story. 876 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,090 Um, I've done a fair amount of development. 877 00:45:45,090 --> 00:45:47,390 Some of it was in St. Louis in a historic district, 878 00:45:47,390 --> 00:45:49,280 and I bought a 100-year-old building 879 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,140 and wanted to renovate it, and I made 880 00:45:51,140 --> 00:45:53,060 it into a banquet facility. 881 00:45:53,060 --> 00:45:54,600 I also had a liquor license. 882 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,460 I could be open six days of the year. 883 00:45:56,460 --> 00:45:57,960 My first day was Mardi Gras. 884 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,740 Saturday we were open all day, but we'd 885 00:46:00,740 --> 00:46:02,570 announce some pretty major bands we're 886 00:46:02,570 --> 00:46:05,330 going to play at night, including Chuck 887 00:46:05,330 --> 00:46:06,600 Berry was going to be there. 888 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,590 So we had people coming in and out of the facility all day 889 00:46:09,590 --> 00:46:10,090 long. 890 00:46:10,090 --> 00:46:12,570 Got to be 6:00, 7:00. 891 00:46:12,570 --> 00:46:15,610 And I had a doorman, I had a police officer. 892 00:46:15,610 --> 00:46:17,790 We had to put a cover charge on the door 893 00:46:17,790 --> 00:46:19,230 to slow down the people coming in 894 00:46:19,230 --> 00:46:20,640 because the fire Marshal had said 895 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,650 300 people is your maximum. 896 00:46:22,650 --> 00:46:28,720 As we got that became $2 and $3 and $5 when we got to 11:00. 897 00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:30,710 The major bands playing. 898 00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:35,090 There were people out the driveway and we were full 899 00:46:35,090 --> 00:46:38,870 and we had to stop letting people in the building. 900 00:46:38,870 --> 00:46:42,380 And what we had to do was go to one person comes out, 901 00:46:42,380 --> 00:46:44,630 one person goes in. 902 00:46:44,630 --> 00:46:45,990 It's an easy concept. 903 00:46:45,990 --> 00:46:46,970 It worked very well. 904 00:46:46,970 --> 00:46:50,870 I'm suggesting to you that most people that I talk 905 00:46:50,870 --> 00:46:53,690 to suggest that we're full. 906 00:46:53,690 --> 00:46:55,140 We've had enough housing. 907 00:46:55,140 --> 00:46:57,680 I did a study in 2017, suggested we 908 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,160 had 1,200% of what we had forecast 909 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:02,970 for housing into various. 910 00:47:02,970 --> 00:47:04,730 Thank you. 911 00:47:04,730 --> 00:47:05,630 Anyone else? 912 00:47:05,630 --> 00:47:17,080 Vance Yoakam 12619 Milwaukee Avenue. 913 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,270 Tavares just quickly want to talk 914 00:47:20,270 --> 00:47:22,370 about the Tavares nature park. 915 00:47:22,370 --> 00:47:26,960 Not budget issues, but just the condition of the park, 916 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:32,660 that there is no park map on any of the sign posts 917 00:47:32,660 --> 00:47:33,930 that they've got there. 918 00:47:33,930 --> 00:47:36,860 And there's a really good one that is in the park 919 00:47:36,860 --> 00:47:38,780 that's up in Eustis. 920 00:47:38,780 --> 00:47:41,180 And I really think that you need a trail 921 00:47:41,180 --> 00:47:43,070 map because a lot of people, I talk 922 00:47:43,070 --> 00:47:44,780 to them as I walk down there. 923 00:47:44,780 --> 00:47:47,360 I go in there about three times a week. 924 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:48,360 Have you ever been in there? 925 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:49,280 No, I don't. 926 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:50,660 I don't even know what's in there. 927 00:47:50,660 --> 00:47:54,050 There's no trail maps that show that there's that center 928 00:47:54,050 --> 00:47:55,730 with the picnic table. 929 00:47:55,730 --> 00:47:58,850 There's a pond that the trails go all over the place, 930 00:47:58,850 --> 00:48:01,400 and it's a very nice walk. 931 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:07,520 The and then all the signs that indicate what the tree is 932 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:11,670 or the plants are, probably 80% of them are gone. 933 00:48:11,670 --> 00:48:13,070 They've been destroyed or removed. 934 00:48:13,070 --> 00:48:16,410 The others have never, ever been cleaned or maintained. 935 00:48:16,410 --> 00:48:20,120 The same for the boardwalk that goes down to the fishing pier 936 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,280 has not been maintained with any kind of preservative 937 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:24,490 or anything else. 938 00:48:24,490 --> 00:48:28,500 And I think that you need to set some guidelines 939 00:48:28,500 --> 00:48:30,640 to start maintaining the park. 940 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,450 Those things that staff does, I see them 941 00:48:33,450 --> 00:48:34,780 every day going down there. 942 00:48:34,780 --> 00:48:37,380 They maintain the toilet building there. 943 00:48:37,380 --> 00:48:42,000 They mow the lawns and most of the areas on the paths. 944 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,930 But beyond that, the condition of a lot of these extra things 945 00:48:45,930 --> 00:48:49,380 that were installed when the park was built 946 00:48:49,380 --> 00:48:52,210 are really run down. 947 00:48:52,210 --> 00:48:55,260 I would suggest that I think a comment was made earlier 948 00:48:55,260 --> 00:48:59,100 about engagement and there is nationally 949 00:48:59,100 --> 00:49:01,890 and maybe worldwide, there's a movement in cities 950 00:49:01,890 --> 00:49:06,360 to have engagement activities rather than a passive thing 951 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,030 where you just go to a park and walk around, 952 00:49:09,030 --> 00:49:13,500 but you have tours of the park, you schedule them 953 00:49:13,500 --> 00:49:17,210 and I've talked a bit to one of the people 954 00:49:17,210 --> 00:49:21,830 from Trout lake who can identify all those plants correctly, 955 00:49:21,830 --> 00:49:26,780 she says a lot of them were signs that indicated what 956 00:49:26,780 --> 00:49:30,380 the plants were, and they have an engagement 957 00:49:30,380 --> 00:49:34,050 where you organize some events in there, family events. 958 00:49:34,050 --> 00:49:39,080 You're talking earlier, and to go for walks in there, 959 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:43,460 I may try and do that on my own, but I don't know. 960 00:49:43,460 --> 00:49:45,560 You know, an old guy with a walking cane 961 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,250 is going to attract a crowd versus get, 962 00:49:49,250 --> 00:49:53,120 you know, Walter price or Bob garner near Toledo 963 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,190 walk out all of the things that are in. 964 00:49:56,190 --> 00:49:58,730 965 00:49:58,730 --> 00:50:02,240 I would suggest you add benches along some of the paths. 966 00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:04,430 There's no place at all to sit down. 967 00:50:04,430 --> 00:50:05,300 There's nothing. 968 00:50:05,300 --> 00:50:08,180 And for people that go in there, they get part way in 969 00:50:08,180 --> 00:50:11,480 and then they kind of lose the oomph 970 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:12,660 and they need to sit down. 971 00:50:12,660 --> 00:50:14,440 And so I would suggest that. 972 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:15,690 Thank you. 973 00:50:15,690 --> 00:50:17,430 Thank you. 974 00:50:17,430 --> 00:50:18,870 Serious nature park. 975 00:50:18,870 --> 00:50:19,470 All righty. 976 00:50:19,470 --> 00:50:23,360 Anyone else in the audience? 977 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:23,860 Thank you. 978 00:50:23,860 --> 00:50:27,010 We'll close the audience to be heard and we'll go to Reports. 979 00:50:27,010 --> 00:50:29,190 Mr Drury just a reminder, our next meeting 980 00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:33,000 is February 21st, 4:00 PM here. 981 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,130 You folks were interested in. 982 00:50:36,130 --> 00:50:40,260 And then great event this past weekend and the weekend 983 00:50:40,260 --> 00:50:43,110 before, and that's all I have. 984 00:50:43,110 --> 00:50:45,050 Thank you, mayor. 985 00:50:45,050 --> 00:50:45,550 Thank you. 986 00:50:45,550 --> 00:50:47,435 OK, we'll go down the line. 987 00:50:47,435 --> 00:50:50,180 988 00:50:50,180 --> 00:50:51,870 Your chief was busy today. 989 00:50:51,870 --> 00:50:53,660 He had a busy day. 990 00:50:53,660 --> 00:50:55,250 Anything from the tree? 991 00:50:55,250 --> 00:50:56,210 Nothing from the tree. 992 00:50:56,210 --> 00:50:59,200 OK no report today. 993 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:00,990 Thank you, Mr Dylan. 994 00:51:00,990 --> 00:51:01,830 Nothing to report. 995 00:51:01,830 --> 00:51:03,650 Thank you. 996 00:51:03,650 --> 00:51:07,300 OK on the line, mayor. 997 00:51:07,300 --> 00:51:07,930 Thank you. 998 00:51:07,930 --> 00:51:09,000 Good evening, council. 999 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,690 I do have one thing, and I'm going to purposely keep 1000 00:51:11,690 --> 00:51:14,750 this vague and void of details, and you'll understand why 1001 00:51:14,750 --> 00:51:16,730 we have a retirement coming up. 1002 00:51:16,730 --> 00:51:19,100 The fire department and we just inviting 1003 00:51:19,100 --> 00:51:23,490 you all to come by and give your best wishes to that employee. 1004 00:51:23,490 --> 00:51:27,740 It's a 12, 12.5 year employee and we're 1005 00:51:27,740 --> 00:51:28,860 going to miss that person. 1006 00:51:28,860 --> 00:51:31,320 So if you need details, by all means, 1007 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:32,760 call me or just see me after the meeting. 1008 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,010 Thank you very much. 1009 00:51:34,010 --> 00:51:35,460 Thank you. 1010 00:51:35,460 --> 00:51:37,120 That's tomorrow. 1011 00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,700 Exclusive to 0. 1012 00:51:39,700 --> 00:51:46,690 I'll nothing. 1013 00:51:46,690 --> 00:51:47,370 No report, mayor. 1014 00:51:47,370 --> 00:51:49,920 1015 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,885 OK Happy Valentine's Day. 1016 00:51:53,885 --> 00:51:56,610 1017 00:51:56,610 --> 00:51:57,850 Just a couple of quick things. 1018 00:51:57,850 --> 00:52:00,990 We had some great events in the Downtown area, 1019 00:52:00,990 --> 00:52:04,990 the community out, one of which was the Arbor Day festivities. 1020 00:52:04,990 --> 00:52:07,240 Mr Dylan, you and your team did a great job. 1021 00:52:07,240 --> 00:52:09,660 It was nice to see everybody out there getting their free trees 1022 00:52:09,660 --> 00:52:12,040 and getting an education on Arbor day. 1023 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:12,940 So thank you. 1024 00:52:12,940 --> 00:52:15,190 And everybody that had a hand in putting that together. 1025 00:52:15,190 --> 00:52:17,590 And then we had a rhythm on Ruby. 1026 00:52:17,590 --> 00:52:20,290 Mr tweedy, your staff did an amazing job. 1027 00:52:20,290 --> 00:52:21,450 As always. 1028 00:52:21,450 --> 00:52:24,560 It's great to see what an economic driver that event is. 1029 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,500 It brings a lot of people to our downtown area. 1030 00:52:26,500 --> 00:52:29,070 And I just want to Thank everybody that, you know, 1031 00:52:29,070 --> 00:52:30,540 was there to support that and everybody 1032 00:52:30,540 --> 00:52:32,490 that didn't put that together. 1033 00:52:32,490 --> 00:52:34,530 And then also we had the African-American 1034 00:52:34,530 --> 00:52:35,410 Heritage Festival. 1035 00:52:35,410 --> 00:52:38,640 I think Pastor Mike Watkins, who's in the audience today, 1036 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,740 had a hand in putting that together. 1037 00:52:40,740 --> 00:52:43,800 Very nice to see the attendance there as well. 1038 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,770 And on that note, we had our better meeting 1039 00:52:46,770 --> 00:52:48,990 weeks ago and that was in the Civic Center 1040 00:52:48,990 --> 00:52:51,240 and it was very nice to see the refurbishment 1041 00:52:51,240 --> 00:52:52,470 of the Civic Center. 1042 00:52:52,470 --> 00:52:57,790 First thing I noticed when we drove up was painting outside 1043 00:52:57,790 --> 00:53:00,190 and the inside was very nice as well. 1044 00:53:00,190 --> 00:53:03,160 So Mr Dylan, Thank you and your team handled that. 1045 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:08,380 1046 00:53:08,380 --> 00:53:09,380 It looks great. 1047 00:53:09,380 --> 00:53:12,000 So thank you all very much for everything you do. 1048 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,020 And last but not least, just want to wish everybody 1049 00:53:14,020 --> 00:53:15,760 a Happy Valentine's Day. 1050 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,580 I think we have, Mr Vice mayor. 1051 00:53:18,580 --> 00:53:22,690 Yes, we had the better meeting also last week. 1052 00:53:22,690 --> 00:53:26,150 And I urge you. 1053 00:53:26,150 --> 00:53:28,310 Uh, because I was educated on something 1054 00:53:28,310 --> 00:53:32,210 that I never thought about in that fashion, 1055 00:53:32,210 --> 00:53:33,600 I guess you might say. 1056 00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:38,960 But look up what grandfather clause where it originated. 1057 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:40,550 And it was brought out in that meeting 1058 00:53:40,550 --> 00:53:43,520 and it was very, very educational to find out 1059 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,870 how it all initiated from that. 1060 00:53:45,870 --> 00:53:48,030 We utilize that phrase a lot. 1061 00:53:48,030 --> 00:53:50,010 Well, I'm under the grandfather clause. 1062 00:53:50,010 --> 00:53:53,360 Well, do you really know what it is and where it started from? 1063 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:54,750 Maybe you need to look at it. 1064 00:53:54,750 --> 00:53:58,030 So it was very interesting how it was brought out. 1065 00:53:58,030 --> 00:54:00,380 Also, we were at the League of cities meeting 1066 00:54:00,380 --> 00:54:04,390 here a couple Fridays ago and. 1067 00:54:04,390 --> 00:54:06,510 And this next one I won't be able to go to. 1068 00:54:06,510 --> 00:54:08,520 No the League of cities I can go to as the 1069 00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:12,090 MPO I can't go to because I'm a conflict that day. 1070 00:54:12,090 --> 00:54:16,980 But there's a lot happening. 1071 00:54:16,980 --> 00:54:20,540 And we're going forward every day. 1072 00:54:20,540 --> 00:54:23,880 And where are we on Babe Ruth signups. 1073 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:24,740 They're doing that now. 1074 00:54:24,740 --> 00:54:30,240 1075 00:54:30,240 --> 00:54:31,600 The signups are. 1076 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:32,800 We formed all the teams. 1077 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,720 Everything is all signed up. 1078 00:54:34,720 --> 00:54:36,160 So we're doing good. 1079 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:37,470 We're doing pretty well. 1080 00:54:37,470 --> 00:54:39,680 have an increase. 1081 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,660 Be that's great. 1082 00:54:42,660 --> 00:54:45,400 So we're getting back into where we used to be. 1083 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:46,490 We'll get up to 400. 1084 00:54:46,490 --> 00:54:48,220 I'll be real happy. 1085 00:54:48,220 --> 00:54:51,580 Yeah so but no, this is something 1086 00:54:51,580 --> 00:54:53,770 that we provide here at the city for our youth 1087 00:54:53,770 --> 00:54:55,940 and we want to continue as the y. 1088 00:54:55,940 --> 00:55:02,170 So once again, as others have said, Happy Valentine's Day. 1089 00:55:02,170 --> 00:55:03,020 It's not tomorrow. 1090 00:55:03,020 --> 00:55:06,690 1091 00:55:06,690 --> 00:55:07,470 Go ahead. 1092 00:55:07,470 --> 00:55:10,860 Happy Valentine's day, everyone. 1093 00:55:10,860 --> 00:55:12,550 God bless us, everyone. 1094 00:55:12,550 --> 00:55:14,660 Meeting adjourned. 1095 00:55:14,660 --> 00:55:49,000