Good morning and welcome to the June 11th, NOTE Confidence: 0.962116034285714
2024 meeting of the Board NOTE Confidence: 0.962116034285714
of County Commissioners. NOTE Confidence: 0.962116034285714
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Eric from IT department will explain NOTE Confidence: 0.962116034285714
that process here in just a minute. NOTE Confidence: 0.962116034285714
And to kick off our meeting, NOTE Confidence: 0.962116034285714
I would like to welcome Miss Pastor NOTE Confidence: 0.962116034285714
James Maury from Union Congressional NOTE Confidence: 0.962116034285714
Church for the invocation and NOTE Confidence: 0.962116034285714
the Pledge of Allegiance. NOTE Confidence: 0.953373142857143
Thank you for this opportunity to come NOTE Confidence: 0.953373142857143
and pray with you for your meeting. NOTE Confidence: 0.953373142857143
But I do want to correct one thing, NOTE Confidence: 0.953373142857143
it's Union, Union Congregational Church. NOTE Confidence: 0.953373142857143
We don't want to be confused NOTE Confidence: 0.953373142857143
with congressional if that's OK. NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
Creator and sustainer of all life, NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
in whose image and likeness NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
we are all created and whose NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
holy breath gives life to all. NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
We lift the members of this NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
Commission to you this morning. NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
Give them wisdom and understanding NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
and the decisions they make so NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
that all those in our community NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
may flourish and experience the NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
abundance of your life and grace. NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
Help them to be mindful of your NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
cherished children under their NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
care who experience challenges NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
of life and struggle with health, NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
lack of financial resources and NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
shelter from the extreme heat, NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
especially the elderly in our communities. NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
Bless our commissioners and NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
their families who support them, NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
their staff, NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
and all who enable them to NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
perform their duties. NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
Watch over our first responders, NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
our firefighters and law enforcement NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
officers and keep them safe as NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
they serve our communities. NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
And embrace their families NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
who in faith and love, NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
send them to their task to NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
keep all of us safe. NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
May we all be mindful of our NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
connectedness as your children, NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
and may we ever strive to lift NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
each other in ways that realize NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
your Kingdom of love for all. NOTE Confidence: 0.864818128333333
In your blessed name we pray, Amen. NOTE Confidence: 0.777453878333333
I pledge the allegiance to that NOTE Confidence: 0.777453878333333
the United States of America and to NOTE Confidence: 0.777453878333333
the Republic for which it stands, NOTE Confidence: 0.777453878333333
one nation under God, indivisible, NOTE Confidence: 0.777453878333333
with liberty and justice for all. NOTE Confidence: 0.925995794
OK, Thank you very much. NOTE Confidence: 0.856222458
All right, moving on down to our NOTE Confidence: 0.856222458
virtual meeting instructions, Eric. NOTE Confidence: 0.856222458
Commissioners, this meeting is being NOTE Confidence: 0.856222458
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member following the meeting. Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.866695083333333
OK, thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.866695083333333
Moving on down to our agenda update, NOTE Confidence: 0.866695083333333
Jennifer. Yes, good morning, Mr. NOTE Confidence: 0.866695083333333
Chair, Tab 27 was added as an addendum NOTE Confidence: 0.866695083333333
since the agenda was first published. NOTE Confidence: 0.866695083333333
That is down at the bottom of the NOTE Confidence: 0.866695083333333
agenda under Commissioner Parks's NOTE Confidence: 0.866695083333333
items and I believe he would like NOTE Confidence: 0.866695083333333
to also move that up in the agenda NOTE Confidence: 0.866695083333333
if it's so pleases the chairman. NOTE Confidence: 0.866695083333333
Yeah. Why don't we move that above? NOTE Confidence: 0.866695083333333
Won't we move that just below consent agenda? NOTE Confidence: 0.866695083333333
Thank you. OK, I will do that. NOTE Confidence: 0.866695083333333
Thank you. Appreciate NOTE Confidence: 0.59124518
it. OK, NOTE Confidence: 0.93602403875
now for the exciting part of our meeting, NOTE Confidence: 0.93602403875
Miss Janine Nelson with the employee Awards. NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
Good morning, Mr. NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
Chair and Commissioners. NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
My name is Janine Nelson. NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
I'm with Human Resources and Risk Management. NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
This morning you are recognizing employees NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
who have reached significant milestones NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
in their careers with with Lake County. NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
And additionally, we have two retirees, NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
one of whom is with us today. NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
So we're going to start NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
with five years of service. NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
After I read the names of the NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
individuals in that group, NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
if we could give a joint round of applause NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
in for that particular year group, right? NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
We're going to start with five years. NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
Misty Spawn. NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
She began her career with Lake NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
County on May the 6th, 2019. NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
She's an agenda coordinator with NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
the County Manager's Office. NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
Sarah Afatado began her career with NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
Lake County on May 13th, 2019. NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
She's an EMT with the Office of Fire Rescue. NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
Next we have John Patterson, NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
he began his career with Lake NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
County on May the 28th, 2019. NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
He's a traffic signal technician NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
with the Office of Public Works. NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
Ryan Mitchun began his career with NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
Lake County on April 1st, 2019. NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
He serves as the Chief Code Enforcement NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
officer with the Office of Code Enforcement. NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
Perry Collins is next. NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
He began his career with Lake NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
County on April the 1st, 2019. NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
Also, he's a senior building inspector NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
with the Office of Building Services. NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
Miranda Leno began her career with NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
Lake County on April the 1st, 2019. NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
She serves as a senior budget coordinator NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
with the Office of Management and Budget. NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
Craig Rawls began his career with NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
Lake County on April the 1st, NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
2019. NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
He's a paramedic with the Office of Fire NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
Rescue and Eric Clark began his career NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
with Lake County on April the 15th, NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
2019. NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
He's an Enterprise Technology NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
architect with IT. NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
Stephanie Klein began her career with NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
Lake County on April the 29th, 2019. NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
She's a program associate for 4H with NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
the Office of Extension Services. NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
And then Marissa Walters began her career NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
with Lake County on April the 29th, NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
2019. NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
Firefighter, NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
Paramedic with the Office of Fire Rescue. NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
With those individuals who are here with NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
us today who are celebrating five years, NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
please stand up so we can recognize you. NOTE Confidence: 0.844881596666667
Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.938595534285714
Ten years, We just have one individual. NOTE Confidence: 0.938595534285714
David Bezrock began his career with NOTE Confidence: 0.938595534285714
Lake County on April the 21st, 2014. NOTE Confidence: 0.938595534285714
He's a spray truck operator NOTE Confidence: 0.938595534285714
with mosquito management, NOTE Confidence: 0.938595534285714
Parks and water Resources. NOTE Confidence: 0.938595534285714
He was not able to be with us today, right? NOTE Confidence: 0.938595534285714
So let's give him a round of applause. NOTE Confidence: 0.873548261111111
Next, we're jumping all the way to 25 years. NOTE Confidence: 0.873548261111111
Scott Alker began his career with NOTE Confidence: 0.873548261111111
Lake County in May the 24th, 1999. NOTE Confidence: 0.873548261111111
He serves as a chief maintenance NOTE Confidence: 0.873548261111111
supervisor with Facilities Management. NOTE Confidence: 0.873548261111111
Then Anthony Cuellar began his career NOTE Confidence: 0.873548261111111
with Lake County on May the 26th, 1999. NOTE Confidence: 0.873548261111111
He's Deputy Chief of Operations NOTE Confidence: 0.873548261111111
with the Office of Fire Rescue. NOTE Confidence: 0.873548261111111
And then Phil Aldrich began his career NOTE Confidence: 0.873548261111111
with Lake County on April the 3rd, 1999. NOTE Confidence: 0.873548261111111
He's a fire Lieutenant EMT NOTE Confidence: 0.873548261111111
with the Office of Fire Rescue. NOTE Confidence: 0.873548261111111
With those individuals here NOTE Confidence: 0.873548261111111
celebrating 25 years, NOTE Confidence: 0.873548261111111
please stand to be recognized. NOTE Confidence: 0.885637784
Next, we have two retirements. NOTE Confidence: 0.885637784
I'm going to start first with Troy Braley. NOTE Confidence: 0.885637784
Troy Braley was not able to be with us today. NOTE Confidence: 0.885637784
He began his career with Lake NOTE Confidence: 0.885637784
County on June the 1st, 1999. NOTE Confidence: 0.885637784
He served as a fire captain NOTE Confidence: 0.885637784
with the Office of Fire Rescue. NOTE Confidence: 0.885637784
Let's give a round of applause for Troy. NOTE Confidence: 0.808363531428571
Virginia Morehead is with us this morning. NOTE Confidence: 0.808363531428571
She began her career with Lake NOTE Confidence: 0.808363531428571
County on May the 30th, 2006. NOTE Confidence: 0.808363531428571
She's a right of way agent too, NOTE Confidence: 0.808363531428571
with the Office of Engineering Public Works. NOTE Confidence: 0.808363531428571
And Jeff Earhart is here this NOTE Confidence: 0.808363531428571
morning to speak a little bit NOTE Confidence: 0.808363531428571
more about Virginia. Jeff, NOTE Confidence: 0.89702402
good morning. Thank you for the honor. NOTE Confidence: 0.89702402
Should we make, should we make NOTE Confidence: 0.89702402
her stand up and be embarrassed? NOTE Confidence: 0.89702402
I think I I think we should NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
if you want to look there or NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
here or anywhere, you guys know, NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
you never know what I'm going to say. NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
Sorry, Jennifer. NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
So Virginia team Morehead NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
affectionately known as Jenny, NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
like from Forrest Gump. NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
So I can remember how to say it started NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
in Lake County in 2618 years ago. NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
As a point of reference, NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
2006 is when Netflix began streaming, NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
NASA landed a spacecraft on Mars, NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
Steve Jobs introduced the first iPhone NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
and Tesla unveiled the first Roadster. NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
Jenny was in the middle of her Myspace craze, NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
which incidentally was valued 65 NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
times Facebook at that point in time. NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
We spend most of our waking hours with NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
our Co workers and do life together. NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
We were there when Jenny was NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
battling cancer beside her, NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
raising her daughter Stephanie, NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
admiring her dedication to NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
volunteering with the Red Cross, NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
and participating while she made NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
military care packages throughout NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
Jenny's career with public works NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
as part of the Right of Way Family, NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
We are family, she assisted, NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
inquiring thousands of acres of NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
right away and millions of dollars NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
worth of property for Lake County. NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
These efforts have paved the way, NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
both literally and figuratively, NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
for such projects as Wellness Way, NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
Schofield Rd. NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
County Road 465, Citrus Grove Rd. NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
Hancock Rd. NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
and many others. NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
She is and will ever be part NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
of the original Right of Way NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
team which included Patty, NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
Becky and Cindy. NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
For those of you that have NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
been here that long, NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
Jenny's goal of improving the quality NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
of life for all the residents NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
through transportation initiatives, NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
development review, NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
real estate transactions and legal NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
knowledge is second to none. NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
But even more important that Jenny's NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
technical knowledge is I will NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
remember her Mashed potato lunches, NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
her quick wit, NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
her catering prowess and how she NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
experienced lost and how she NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
cares for people. NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
Jenny enjoyed caring for others NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
and being an unsung hero, NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
always volunteering for tasks and NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
events that need done but don't NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
get much praise. NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
She loves her daughter and her friends. NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
She hopes to relax a bit and eventually NOTE Confidence: 0.595842677
travel to see your cousins up north. NOTE Confidence: 0.86696406875
That's where I want to go right now, NOTE Confidence: 0.86696406875
up north where it's cool. NOTE Confidence: 0.914862059166667
As a small token of our appreciation for NOTE Confidence: 0.914862059166667
Jenny and as a constant reminder of the NOTE Confidence: 0.914862059166667
great time she had here at Lake County, NOTE Confidence: 0.914862059166667
the entire Lake County family NOTE Confidence: 0.914862059166667
would like to present you with NOTE Confidence: 0.914862059166667
this represent your often tranquil NOTE Confidence: 0.914862059166667
but hopefully exciting retirement. NOTE Confidence: 0.914862059166667
Congratulations, Jane. NOTE Confidence: 0.950200846666667
Thank you so much. NOTE Confidence: 0.950200846666667
This concludes our presentation today. NOTE Confidence: 0.950200846666667
Would you like to say a few words? NOTE Confidence: 0.950200846666667
Want to say anything, Jenny? NOTE Confidence: 0.5574897
OK, thank you, everyone. NOTE Confidence: 0.5574897
All right, thank you and congratulations. NOTE Confidence: 0.5574897
All right, moving on down to our NOTE Confidence: 0.5574897
minutes approval, Mr. Cooney. NOTE Confidence: 0.5574897
Good morning, Mr. Chairman. NOTE Confidence: 0.5574897
Members of the Commission, NOTE Confidence: 0.5574897
I have one set of minutes, NOTE Confidence: 0.5574897
minutes for your approval this morning. NOTE Confidence: 0.5574897
Move for approval. Second. NOTE Confidence: 0.5574897
All right, we have a motion. NOTE Confidence: 0.5574897
And 2nd, all those in favor say aye, NOTE Confidence: 0.5574897
aye, opposed. NOTE Confidence: 0.5574897
Motion carries 50. Just NOTE Confidence: 0.340334325
bring any more cards, NOTE Confidence: 0.787158546363636
OK? We're moving into our citizens NOTE Confidence: 0.787158546363636
public comment and questions period. NOTE Confidence: 0.787158546363636
At this time we can speak about NOTE Confidence: 0.787158546363636
anything that is not on the agenda. NOTE Confidence: 0.94970846
If something is on the on the agenda. NOTE Confidence: 0.94970846
I was just trying to help you get organized NOTE Confidence: 0.94970846
here because you got a lot of them. NOTE Confidence: 0.94970846
Yeah, sorry. It's like 10 piles up here. NOTE Confidence: 0.956288155
So anything that is not on the agenda, NOTE Confidence: 0.956288155
you'll Please wait for your tab. NOTE Confidence: 0.956288155
There are a couple on here that say NOTE Confidence: 0.94916068
public comment, but I'm NOTE Confidence: 0.94916068
thinking they are for a tab. And NOTE Confidence: 0.894275061111111
Mr. Williamson, Clifford Williamson, NOTE Confidence: 0.894275061111111
you're talking about the annexation. Yeah. NOTE Confidence: 0.894275061111111
So that's Tab 17. We'll wait for that. NOTE Confidence: 0.81762786
Chris Creech, same thing, Tab 17. OK. NOTE Confidence: 0.859869492222222
And Mr. Clifford, NOTE Confidence: 0.859869492222222
you got two cards up here. NOTE Confidence: 0.859869492222222
Do you want to read twice? NOTE Confidence: 0.859869492222222
Just one? OK. All right. NOTE Confidence: 0.859869492222222
With that, then we'll move on down to NOTE Confidence: 0.859869492222222
our public comment and question period. NOTE Confidence: 0.859869492222222
Mr. Mike Stanley or Stevens? Mike NOTE Confidence: 0.506093286666667
Stevens. Stevens. NOTE Confidence: 0.506093286666667
That's probably over there. NOTE Confidence: 0.506093286666667
That's probably over the referendum. NOTE Confidence: 0.506093286666667
Holy moly. Oh, NOTE Confidence: 0.506093286666667
that's going to be on the agenda. NOTE Confidence: 0.506093286666667
That's probably the referendum. NOTE Confidence: 0.506093286666667
Is this, is this the referendum? NOTE Confidence: 0.506093286666667
No. No. Oh, NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
OK, no. I come to you today for NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
the Florida Greenways and Trails NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
Council as the chairman of Florida NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
Greenways and Trails Council. NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
What I've given her to give to you NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
is the new Florida Greenways and NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
Trails System plan for 2024 to 2028, NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
which details all the priority NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
trails for the state of Florida, NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
all the priority greenways NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
for the state of Florida, NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
as well as the regional trails throughout NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
the state of Florida and their ranking. NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
As you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
we have 4 regional trails now and in NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
Lake County we were successful in getting NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
two added during this five year plan. NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
The plan runs from 2024 to 2028 NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
and once you're in this plan, NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
it's the system plan for NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
the entire state of Florida, NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
then you become eligible NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
for Sun Trail funding. NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
So we now have 4 trails within the NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
state of within Lake County that NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
are eligible for that funding. NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
So the coast to coast, NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
which is 100% funded in program NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
does not completely built, NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
it's about 90% built that may remaining NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
gap is in Sumter in Lake County. NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
The Wekiva Trail, NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
we were successful in getting that NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
added this past planning period. NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
So that's in there now. NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
The North Lake Riverdale Hills NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
Trail is also in there. NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
We were successful in getting NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
that added this year. NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
And then the Heart of Florida loop, NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
which runs around the top of Florida or NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
top of Lake County in northern Lake County. NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
So I just wanted to give you that. NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
I've sent you links to it before digitally, NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
but I wanted to give you the hard copy NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
in case you wanted to see the hard copy. NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
And if you have any questions on, NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
I'll be glad to answer any questions NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
you can question me later, NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
that kind of thing. NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
But I just wanted to deliver that NOTE Confidence: 0.767510963913043
today so you have that information. NOTE Confidence: 0.833554915
The only question I have is is where NOTE Confidence: 0.833554915
can the general public pick this up at? NOTE Confidence: 0.833554915
You can go to, you can search Florida NOTE Confidence: 0.833554915
Greenways and Trail system plan. NOTE Confidence: 0.833554915
That should come up digitally. NOTE Confidence: 0.833554915
You there's three links. NOTE Confidence: 0.833554915
I had to split it in three links so NOTE Confidence: 0.833554915
you can click on each link. Yes. NOTE Confidence: 0.833554915
Department of Environmental Protection, NOTE Confidence: 0.833554915
Office of Greenways and NOTE Confidence: 0.833554915
Trails is where it's located. NOTE Confidence: 0.833554915
If they want to e-mail me or contact me, NOTE Confidence: 0.833554915
I'll be glad to get them copies as well. NOTE Confidence: 0.833554915
We have our next meeting at the end of NOTE Confidence: 0.833554915
this month on the 25th in Brooksville, NOTE Confidence: 0.833554915
and I'm going to get a box of the hard copy. NOTE Confidence: 0.833554915
So we have those available for NOTE Confidence: 0.833554915
folks in Lake County as well. NOTE Confidence: 0.833554915
So OK, thank you, Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.833554915
I apologize, NOTE Confidence: 0.833554915
I won't be here for the referendum. NOTE Confidence: 0.833554915
I've got to go back to work NOTE Confidence: 0.833554915
and change shirts. NOTE Confidence: 0.833554915
So, NOTE Confidence: 0.760193876666667
all right, moving on down to NOTE Confidence: 0.760193876666667
mental health, Mr. Banks. NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
Banks Helfrich Farmer Banks Candidate NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
State House District 259100 Sands Lake Rd. NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
Claremont The Clay Rd. District Chairman NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
Commissioners distinguished guests. NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
In our community there are those of NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
us who are dealing with aloneness, NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
loneliness, depression and anxiety. NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
Or that person is US1 year NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
ago I was in that situation. NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
I was dealing with depression, NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
anxiety, aloneness and loneliness NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
because of two losses in my life. NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
What did I do? First and foremost, NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
the first thing you can do is talk about it. NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
Talk about mental health to distinguish or to NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
eliminate the the stigma of mental health. NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
Another thing you can do is NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
turn to community. NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
Community is the first defense NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
in fighting mental health. NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
I did that in South Lake County NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
a couple of ways. NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
First and foremost, NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
I joined the pickleball club NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
down in Claremont. NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
It is community based, NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
it is people based and it's a chance NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
to take out your stress and anxiety. NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
Actually, I was asked to join that club. NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
There's also Tai Chi of Claremont, NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
Sonia Dumas. NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
She is in charge of that organization. NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
It helps it is a community based NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
organization and also it allows us to NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
come together and to practice Tai chi. NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
Another one is yoga with Jamie van der Meer, NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
live life and living yoga. NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
Both of these Tai chi and yoga NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
are free and they're they're given NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
up or given by Blue of Florida, NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
Florida Blue also I explored NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
into talk therapy Doctor Ruth, NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
not that Doctor Ruth, NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
another one from Orlando help NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
me out with that with insomnia. NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
I also went with breathwork. NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
Amanda Nichols helped with NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
eliminating any issues of past issues. NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
These organizations, these groups, NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
these things that help and mental NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
health were were a great help for me. NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
However, NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
I always found myself coming back to nature. NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
Nature gave me balance and it's NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
good because I am a farmer. NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
I teach sustainability. NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
I teach people how to to grow, NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
show them that they do have a green thumb. NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
Once a month I open up my farm NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
to a farm tour. NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
It is a second Sunday of every month. NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
It is open for anybody and everybody, NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
all ages. NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
This past weekend we had 16 show up, NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
16 survive. NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
It was a little warm out there. NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
Also, NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
three harvest is per year, NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
sugar cane harvest, NOTE Confidence: 0.689908635
a NOTE Confidence: 0.74411698625
sweet potato harvest and also a yuca harvest. NOTE Confidence: 0.74411698625
Commissioner, Chairman, thank you NOTE Confidence: 0.74411698625
so much for allowing me to speak. NOTE Confidence: 0.74411698625
My name is Banks Helfrich Farmer. NOTE Confidence: 0.74411698625
Banks, may you all be blessed. NOTE Confidence: 0.74411698625
Thank you. All right, Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.811742181666667
OK, Next up, Mr. Ray Powers. NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
Morning commissioners. NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
I'm here on behalf of the Lake County NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
Historical Society and Museum. NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
I also have my vice president with me. NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
He made sure he wants everybody NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
know that's his job today, NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
not the other one. NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
No questions today. NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
This week is Flag Day on Friday and NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
normally we have a presentation over the NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
museum that's pretty well impossible. NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
On with it how it's happening this week. NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
So one of our big supporters is Addie NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
Owens of Touchstone Real Estate and NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
Addie bought us a bunch of small flags NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
that we wanted to bring in for you guys. NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
And with permission I can probably put NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
them out on the table and let everybody NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
that comes in the admin building NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
at least get a flag for this week. NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
You know, it's awfully important. NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
It's amazing the history of Flag Day. NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
It used to be parades and everything. NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
And we just, NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
it would be nice to get back to that. NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
But next year we'll try to have another. NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
We'll have something over at the museum. NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
Mr. Baker, Kerry Baker, NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
my vice president's here. NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
And he'd like take a few minutes NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
and just tell you guys a little bit NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
about how important our flag is. NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
And with that, NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
I'll let him come up and give you guys NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
a little presentation, if that's OK. NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
Hold on a second. Got some questions for you. NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
OK, so, so on the flags you have, NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
are they they're American flags. NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
Yes, Sir. That's a good start. NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
Yes, NOTE Confidence: 0.80879058375
Sir. NOTE Confidence: 0.7874058725
They'll the the flag that I'm proud of. NOTE Confidence: 0.7874058725
OK, OK. Yes, Sir. NOTE Confidence: 0.7874058725
Thank you and I'm OK with you. NOTE Confidence: 0.7874058725
First of all, thank you for the NOTE Confidence: 0.7874058725
Historical Society for doing this. NOTE Confidence: 0.7874058725
Second of all, I'm OK for you to put NOTE Confidence: 0.7874058725
them out on the outside for the public. NOTE Confidence: 0.7874058725
If it's OK for Jennifer, NOTE Confidence: 0.7874058725
the rest of the commissioners, NOTE Confidence: 0.7874058725
OK, And whatever is leftover, NOTE Confidence: 0.7874058725
we can do something. NOTE Confidence: 0.7874058725
I mean, we got the rest of the week, NOTE Confidence: 0.7874058725
like I had to get them out. NOTE Confidence: 0.7874058725
We have some over at the museum, too. NOTE Confidence: 0.7874058725
How many flags do you have in there? NOTE Confidence: 0.7874058725
There's probably at least NOTE Confidence: 0.7874058725
two or three hundred. NOTE Confidence: 0.7874058725
All right, So hopefully we can have 300 NOTE Confidence: 0.7874058725
American flags here in Lake County flying. NOTE Confidence: 0.7874058725
That would be wonderful. Yes, Sir. NOTE Confidence: 0.7874058725
Yes, Sir, It sure would be. NOTE Confidence: 0.7874058725
Yeah. Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.7874058725
That I'll get Carrie for you guys. NOTE Confidence: 0.7874058725
OK. NOTE Confidence: 0.7874058725
Up next, Mr. NOTE Confidence: 0.7874058725
Carrie Baker. NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
thanks for letting me share a few thoughts. NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
Hold on a second. Honorable Carrie Baker. NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
Thank you, Honorable. Mr. NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
Chairman. Commissioner, NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
just want to share a few thoughts and one is, NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
you know, you ever wonder why Americans NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
hold the flag in such high regard, NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
especially compared to maybe NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
folks in other nations? NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
And, and I would, NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
I would tell you that's one of the reasons I NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
believe is because the price that we paid, NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
you know, it's human nature when NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
you pay a lot for something, NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
when you sacrifice for something NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
that you value it more. NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
And conversely, when you don't pay much, NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
you don't sacrifice for something, NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
typically you don't hold NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
it in as greater regard. NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
The American flag was purchased NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
at a great price by Americans, NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
originally a Revolutionary War, NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
Soldiers stood up and they NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
sacrificed property. NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
They sacrificed their lives. NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
They fought for the flag and the NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
values that represented in the nation. NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
It became both the Constitution NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
and the rights we enjoy and, NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
and as a consequence, NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
we value that because we recognize NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
not only those original sacrifices, NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
but in the last 250 years, NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
we've had troops carry that flag in NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
defense of freedom across the world. NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
Once again making sacrifice after NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
sacrifice that we recognize and NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
we feel when we look in that, NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
at that flag and that. NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
And not to pick on our Canadian friends, NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
I told this story before, NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
you know, Canada, NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
no Canadian ever picked up a musket NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
and face cannonballs in defense NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
of the establishment of Canada. NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
The British Empire collapsed and NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
they gained their freedom and, NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
and that was it. NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
And, NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
and I mentioned that because I NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
had a Canadian talk to me a couple NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
weeks ago and they're very nice NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
people and nicer than me probably. NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
And, NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
and he didn't quite understand our fervor, NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
our patriotic fervor for our flag and our, NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
and our rights. NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
And, and I was thinking that's because, NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
and I didn't tell this to him because NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
I didn't want to hurt his feelings. NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
And, NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
and it's because they didn't have to fight. NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
They didn't have to sacrifice or wasn't NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
Canadian bloodshed for their flag. NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
They just, NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
the British Empire collapsed and they said, NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
here you go, Canada, NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
you can have your freedom. NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
Matter of fact, they, NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
they literally kept the monarch NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
on their money up until recently. NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
Maybe it's still there. NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
And so with with that, NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
I'd like to just say that this Friday, NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
we should all just strive to remember NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
and be mindful and thankful for NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
the all the sacrifices that were NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
made so this flag can fly proudly, NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
bravely across this nation and represent NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
the ideas this country was founded on. NOTE Confidence: 0.818352584545455
Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.895105283333333
Thank you, Sir. NOTE Confidence: 0.848825275
OK, That's all the cards we have in. NOTE Confidence: 0.848825275
I have anybody else in the NOTE Confidence: 0.848825275
audience would like to say NOTE Confidence: 0.848825275
anything that's not on the agenda? NOTE Confidence: 0.740600314
Seeing none, anybody online? No. NOTE Confidence: 0.740600314
So I would like to make just one request. NOTE Confidence: 0.740600314
If you're looking at this video and NOTE Confidence: 0.740600314
you would like an American flag, NOTE Confidence: 0.740600314
please come down to the county administration NOTE Confidence: 0.740600314
building and pick up your flag. NOTE Confidence: 0.740600314
And they are little flags, NOTE Confidence: 0.740600314
just in case somebody's watching online NOTE Confidence: 0.740600314
and they didn't realize that they NOTE Confidence: 0.740600314
might come down asking for a big flag. NOTE Confidence: 0.925133854
OK, we are moving on down NOTE Confidence: 0.925133854
to our consent agenda. NOTE Confidence: 0.925133854
Is there anybody in the NOTE Confidence: 0.925133854
audience that disagrees with NOTE Confidence: 0.925133854
anything on the consent agenda? NOTE Confidence: 0.60298274
Seeing none. Anybody online? NOTE Confidence: 0.60298274
No. OK, Commissioners. Mr. NOTE Confidence: 0.60298274
Chairman, I have my consent agenda. NOTE Confidence: 0.60298274
At first, I believe with your approval, NOTE Confidence: 0.60298274
I would like you to adopt NOTE Confidence: 0.60298274
my consent agenda today, NOTE Confidence: 0.60298274
which consists of eight items. So moved. NOTE Confidence: 0.60298274
Second, All right, we have a motion. NOTE Confidence: 0.60298274
And 2nd for your clerk or court consent NOTE Confidence: 0.60298274
agenda, all those in favor say aye, NOTE Confidence: 0.60298274
aye, opposed motion carries 50. NOTE Confidence: 0.60298274
All right, moving down to our regular NOTE Confidence: 0.60298274
consent agenda, Commissioners, NOTE Confidence: 0.60298274
I make a motion for approval. NOTE Confidence: 0.60298274
I'll second that. NOTE Confidence: 0.60298274
All right, we have a motion and a NOTE Confidence: 0.60298274
second to approve tabs three to 10. NOTE Confidence: 0.60298274
All those in favor say aye, aye. NOTE Confidence: 0.60298274
Opposed motion carries 50. NOTE Confidence: 0.60298274
All right, so we are moving up to tab 27. NOTE Confidence: 0.60298274
I believe it is. NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
Yes, Commissioner Parks, thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
Thank you, Chair. NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
Thanks for moving this up Ford. NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
We do have some guests that NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
are here this morning to, NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
to speak on the issue. NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
So we do, I think we have 4 out NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
of the five council members, NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
so I'll introduce them first, NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
if you don't mind. NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
Mayor Joe Winecoop, Council Member Jim Lay, NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
Councilwoman Carol Womack, NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
and Councilman Jim Peacock, NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
they are all here this morning NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
for this very important issue. NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
In just a moment, I'll, NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
I guess I'll respectfully ask Melanie and NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
Jennifer to provide their input and analysis. NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
But essentially what you have in NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
front of you today is where we are. NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
We'd like the town of Mont Verde, NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
the residents of Ferndale. NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
To be clear, it's not just Mont Verde. NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
It's many, many, NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
many of the residents of Ferndale as well. NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
And now I can say with certainty that NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
the council members from Claremont, NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
council members from Mineola NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
as well as Bella Colina, NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
who are all members of this ISBA have, NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
are in support of that. NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
I don't, I can't speak for them individually. NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
To be clear, NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
there might be council members, NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
they have not officially voted on NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
that with I think the exception of NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
Mont Verde has unanimously at their NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
council to request that we extend this NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
interlocal service boundary agreement. NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
But what I can tell you is that NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
there's great support for this NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
among all the signing agencies, NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
entities of the interlocal service NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
boundary agreement for Ferndale. NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
The request being to extend it to NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
protect that rural protection area. NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
It's the only one that's left in, NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
in my district, It's in South Lake County. NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
There's the Ferndale rural protection NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
area and then there's the Green NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
Swamp as well on the other side. NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
This is obviously on the, the, NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
the east side towards Lake Apopka, NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
as you know. NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
And so simply the request is, NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
is to extend that interlocal NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
service boundary agreement. NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
We're about to, it's either about, NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
we got about six or seven NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
years before it's renewed, NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
but they would like to extend NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
it an additional 13 years. NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
The thought is to extend it another NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
to make it another 20 years. NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
And it's, it's, it's pretty simple. NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
It's, it's essentially just to protect the, NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
the rural area of Ferndale. NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
I will give you my little bit of NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
history having been part of the, NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
the comp plan, good or bad back in, NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
back in the day, back in 2005 or 6 maybe. NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
And then, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
subsequent years after that NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
where we kind of looked at the, NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
the comprehensive plan for Lake County. NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
Ferndale always, NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
always has always been planned NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
to be a rural area. NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
Those people came out back then. NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
They've come out recently NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
at a meeting that I was at, NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
was able to attend the, NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
the mayor had put the meeting on it, NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
orchestrated, NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
kind of conducted it and we NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
had a packed house. NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
I think there may be some pictures NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
we'll show you of people very adamant, NOTE Confidence: 0.734498856666667
very respectful and professional, NOTE Confidence: 0.896094240909091
of course, but very sincere and NOTE Confidence: 0.896094240909091
requesting that this be extended NOTE Confidence: 0.896094240909091
out to protect that rural area. NOTE Confidence: 0.896094240909091
So I think there's great support for it. NOTE Confidence: 0.896094240909091
We're basically the last, NOTE Confidence: 0.896094240909091
we could be the last entity to sign NOTE Confidence: 0.896094240909091
it because it requires all four or NOTE Confidence: 0.896094240909091
five of us to, to agree to do it. NOTE Confidence: 0.896094240909091
And then it would be, NOTE Confidence: 0.896094240909091
it would be enacted or or NOTE Confidence: 0.896094240909091
extended another 13 years. NOTE Confidence: 0.896094240909091
There's some, there's some language, NOTE Confidence: 0.896094240909091
I think Melanie will go over this. NOTE Confidence: 0.896094240909091
There's some language about making sure NOTE Confidence: 0.896094240909091
that density is making it clear that that NOTE Confidence: 0.896094240909091
density of one unit per five acre is, NOTE Confidence: 0.896094240909091
is maintained and was with NOTE Confidence: 0.896094240909091
is within that ISBA. NOTE Confidence: 0.896094240909091
And of course, I'm supportive of NOTE Confidence: 0.896094240909091
that as best as we can to do that. NOTE Confidence: 0.896094240909091
Obviously, NOTE Confidence: 0.896094240909091
anybody's always has their constitutional NOTE Confidence: 0.896094240909091
right to make a request in the future. NOTE Confidence: 0.896094240909091
And there may not be anything NOTE Confidence: 0.896094240909091
we can do about that. NOTE Confidence: 0.896094240909091
But we can put these assurances NOTE Confidence: 0.896094240909091
in place to be consistent NOTE Confidence: 0.896094240909091
with our comprehensive plan, NOTE Confidence: 0.896094240909091
the way it has always been NOTE Confidence: 0.896094240909091
envisioned and I think the way NOTE Confidence: 0.896094240909091
people want it envisioned. NOTE Confidence: 0.896094240909091
Now, NOTE Confidence: 0.8980851175
Melanie and Jennifer, OK, NOTE Confidence: 0.8980851175
before we get started, NOTE Confidence: 0.8980851175
Melanie, have you, I'm, NOTE Confidence: 0.8980851175
I'm sure you read all of this, NOTE Confidence: 0.8980851175
all this meets all the legalities. NOTE Confidence: 0.950633015714286
So you're not actually NOTE Confidence: 0.950633015714286
approving anything today. NOTE Confidence: 0.950633015714286
This is only discussion and direction. NOTE Confidence: 0.950633015714286
I've been working with the NOTE Confidence: 0.950633015714286
city attorneys for Mineola, NOTE Confidence: 0.950633015714286
Claremont and Mont Verde on wording NOTE Confidence: 0.950633015714286
for this particular document. NOTE Confidence: 0.950633015714286
The extension itself is not an issue. NOTE Confidence: 0.950633015714286
I mean, obviously the parties can NOTE Confidence: 0.950633015714286
agree to extend it for 13 years, NOTE Confidence: 0.950633015714286
an additional 13 years. NOTE Confidence: 0.950633015714286
So that would make its NOTE Confidence: 0.950633015714286
termination date in 2043. NOTE Confidence: 0.950633015714286
What we are working on is language NOTE Confidence: 0.950633015714286
regarding the densities out there. NOTE Confidence: 0.950633015714286
Some of the city attorneys are NOTE Confidence: 0.950633015714286
concerned that the ISPA statute does NOTE Confidence: 0.950633015714286
not allow you to lock in densities. NOTE Confidence: 0.950633015714286
There is some legitimate concerns there. NOTE Confidence: 0.950633015714286
So I will be meeting with them next week, NOTE Confidence: 0.950633015714286
the city attorneys and we're going NOTE Confidence: 0.950633015714286
to discuss if there's another NOTE Confidence: 0.950633015714286
way that we can offer protection NOTE Confidence: 0.950633015714286
without locking in densities. NOTE Confidence: 0.950633015714286
As you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.950633015714286
with the Burt Harris Act and NOTE Confidence: 0.950633015714286
and other things of that nature, NOTE Confidence: 0.950633015714286
we need to be very careful about NOTE Confidence: 0.950633015714286
how we would word such a document. NOTE Confidence: 0.6933111
OK, All right, thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.6933111
I have a few speaker cards that NOTE Confidence: 0.6933111
would like to speak on this. NOTE Confidence: 0.6933111
I will call the people in the audience NOTE Confidence: 0.6933111
to hear and then we'll go online. NOTE Confidence: 0.6933111
So we'll start off with Mr. NOTE Confidence: 0.6933111
Tom Bust. Bust NOTE Confidence: 0.871602218
Good morning Mr. Chairman Council, NOTE Confidence: 0.871602218
my name is Tom Brust, NOTE Confidence: 0.871602218
my address is 19132 bridges Glen Lane NOTE Confidence: 0.871602218
and the only comment I wanted to make on NOTE Confidence: 0.871602218
on the ISBA is it couple 2-3 years ago. NOTE Confidence: 0.871602218
I forget the exact date. NOTE Confidence: 0.871602218
I, I'm on the e-mail list for Lake NOTE Confidence: 0.871602218
County and I got a real nice e-mail NOTE Confidence: 0.871602218
explaining how the county Commission NOTE Confidence: 0.871602218
met with the 12 or 14 largest NOTE Confidence: 0.871602218
cities and towns within Lake County NOTE Confidence: 0.871602218
to discuss how to control growth, NOTE Confidence: 0.871602218
how to develop growth into, NOTE Confidence: 0.871602218
to the extent that it, NOTE Confidence: 0.871602218
it shares with our common NOTE Confidence: 0.871602218
values of the rural community, NOTE Confidence: 0.871602218
the the country feel of Lake County, NOTE Confidence: 0.871602218
how to maintain that, NOTE Confidence: 0.871602218
that feel for the growth coming that, NOTE Confidence: 0.871602218
that we're approaching and growing into. NOTE Confidence: 0.871602218
It's a very important topic. NOTE Confidence: 0.871602218
I don't know what the outcome of NOTE Confidence: 0.871602218
that meeting was what what steps were NOTE Confidence: 0.871602218
taken between the 14 communities, NOTE Confidence: 0.871602218
but it's clear that some of the NOTE Confidence: 0.871602218
communities maybe not listen quite as well. NOTE Confidence: 0.771268711428572
Our area is very is becoming encroached NOTE Confidence: 0.771268711428572
upon by massive development and that's NOTE Confidence: 0.771268711428572
the only thing the ISBA is trying to, NOTE Confidence: 0.771268711428572
as you know, trying to curtail if we can. NOTE Confidence: 0.771268711428572
The density is one of our biggest issues. NOTE Confidence: 0.771268711428572
I think that's the most important NOTE Confidence: 0.771268711428572
part of this whole ISBA, NOTE Confidence: 0.771268711428572
how to control the density. NOTE Confidence: 0.771268711428572
It's it's really very dense, but any help NOTE Confidence: 0.771268711428572
on that would be greatly appreciated. NOTE Confidence: 0.771268711428572
By knowing myself, NOTE Confidence: 0.771268711428572
but everybody else within the Mineola, NOTE Confidence: 0.771268711428572
I mean the Ferndale isba, NOTE Confidence: 0.771268711428572
we like to keep it a rule, community rule NOTE Confidence: 0.771268711428572
flavor that Lake County wants to enact. NOTE Confidence: 0.771268711428572
I appreciate your time. NOTE Confidence: 0.771268711428572
All right, thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.771268711428572
Rebecca Rd. NOTE Confidence: 0.771268711428572
Good morning, NOTE Confidence: 0.698947181666667
commissioners. My name is Rebecca Rude. NOTE Confidence: 0.698947181666667
I'm actually here on behalf NOTE Confidence: 0.698947181666667
of my husband and myself. NOTE Confidence: 0.698947181666667
He had to work today and NOTE Confidence: 0.698947181666667
many of our neighbors, NOTE Confidence: 0.698947181666667
but I'm a Ferndale resident. NOTE Confidence: 0.698947181666667
And just a quick little background, NOTE Confidence: 0.698947181666667
I'm a native of Florida, NOTE Confidence: 0.698947181666667
born and raised in Orlando, NOTE Confidence: 0.698947181666667
so I love this state. NOTE Confidence: 0.698947181666667
My husband's a native as well. NOTE Confidence: 0.698947181666667
We moved out to Ferndale back in 2008. NOTE Confidence: 0.698947181666667
So we've been here quite a while and NOTE Confidence: 0.698947181666667
we've been very fortunate to be able NOTE Confidence: 0.698947181666667
to purchase some land around our NOTE Confidence: 0.698947181666667
property or the years and conserve it. NOTE Confidence: 0.698947181666667
We have been able to leave NOTE Confidence: 0.698947181666667
it natural for the wildlife, NOTE Confidence: 0.698947181666667
for our neighbors and friends to enjoy. NOTE Confidence: 0.698947181666667
And I'm here in 100% support of NOTE Confidence: 0.698947181666667
the signing of the extension of NOTE Confidence: 0.762444975
ISBAI think it's absolutely NOTE Confidence: 0.762444975
necessary for our small community. NOTE Confidence: 0.762444975
It's absolutely beautiful. NOTE Confidence: 0.762444975
If you haven't seen it, NOTE Confidence: 0.762444975
I invite you to come out and look at it. NOTE Confidence: 0.762444975
Take a drive. NOTE Confidence: 0.762444975
It's just there's nothing else like it. NOTE Confidence: 0.762444975
And once it's gone, it's gone forever. NOTE Confidence: 0.762444975
So thank you for your time. NOTE Confidence: 0.762444975
OK, Thank you, NOTE Confidence: 0.42785997
Paul Loreno. NOTE Confidence: 0.816077211111111
Morning Commissioners. Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.816077211111111
My name is Paul Loreno, NOTE Confidence: 0.816077211111111
the town manager for Town of Mont Verde, NOTE Confidence: 0.816077211111111
and I thank you for considering this. NOTE Confidence: 0.816077211111111
I'm here on behalf of the Town NOTE Confidence: 0.816077211111111
Council of Mont Verde and the NOTE Confidence: 0.816077211111111
residents of Mont Verde area and NOTE Confidence: 0.816077211111111
supported extending this for 13 years. NOTE Confidence: 0.816077211111111
This agreement is really a collaborative NOTE Confidence: 0.816077211111111
effort between Lake County, NOTE Confidence: 0.816077211111111
the town of Mont Verde, town of Claremont, NOTE Confidence: 0.816077211111111
and the town of Mineola and Bella Colina CDD. NOTE Confidence: 0.816077211111111
Unlike typical ISBAS, NOTE Confidence: 0.816077211111111
you see that really say this NOTE Confidence: 0.816077211111111
city can annex this, NOTE Confidence: 0.816077211111111
this city can annex that. NOTE Confidence: 0.816077211111111
This one really says cities don't touch, NOTE Confidence: 0.816077211111111
let's leave this area of rule in Lake County. NOTE Confidence: 0.816077211111111
And rule's not a bad word. NOTE Confidence: 0.816077211111111
It's what makes parts of great NOTE Confidence: 0.816077211111111
Crown Lake County great. NOTE Confidence: 0.816077211111111
It sets us apart from driving through NOTE Confidence: 0.816077211111111
Orlando when you get to go through some NOTE Confidence: 0.816077211111111
rural areas in between your cities, NOTE Confidence: 0.816077211111111
unlike driving down 50 going toward Orlando. NOTE Confidence: 0.899440501666667
I want to say one thing. NOTE Confidence: 0.899440501666667
This development agree or NOTE Confidence: 0.899440501666667
this ISBA does not take away NOTE Confidence: 0.899440501666667
any owner's property rights. NOTE Confidence: 0.899440501666667
It does not take away any NOTE Confidence: 0.899440501666667
of their entitlements. NOTE Confidence: 0.899440501666667
The entitlements and property rights NOTE Confidence: 0.899440501666667
they have now are the same ones NOTE Confidence: 0.899440501666667
they had ten years ago and the same NOTE Confidence: 0.899440501666667
ones they all have moving forward. NOTE Confidence: 0.899440501666667
So it preserves the existing NOTE Confidence: 0.899440501666667
entitlement rights that they have. NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
We really support this because NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
it's just healthy for the area. NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
It's it's healthy for the NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
community to have green space. NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
The area is abundant with wildlife. NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
In this area you can find bears and otters, NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
Eagles, osprey, tortoises, NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
obviously everywhere, NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
and over 180 species of birds. NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
And if you think about the development NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
that's going on in South Lake County, NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
from the Grove, NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
from Mineola to Groveland to Claremont, NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
where's all this wildlife go? NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
Everything has gotten concreted NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
and we have this little patch of NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
area that stands between the cities NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
and Lake Apopka in this area not NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
only includes the wildlife and NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
includes several wetland areas, NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
several low lying areas, NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
huge historic large oak trees. NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
And it is a buffer from that density NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
before you get to Lake Apopka, NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
which we obviously are all working NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
trying to clean that waterway up because NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
it is the head water to everything NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
that flows through Lake County. NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
So I encourage your support of NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
this it it's a good agreement, NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
it's a collaborative agreement NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
and we we need to support some NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
areas that have lower density, NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
especially in South Lake because NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
it's getting rarer and rarer. NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
So thank you very much. NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
Appreciate your consideration. NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
OK, NOTE Confidence: 0.880202045454546
Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.7664792
Anita Carver. NOTE Confidence: 0.933083883846154
Good morning, Commissioners. NOTE Confidence: 0.933083883846154
Thank you for allowing us NOTE Confidence: 0.933083883846154
to speak on this issue. NOTE Confidence: 0.933083883846154
Want to thank the county Attorney's office NOTE Confidence: 0.933083883846154
for working on the language with us. NOTE Confidence: 0.933083883846154
The town of council in Montford NOTE Confidence: 0.933083883846154
really does want to protect the NOTE Confidence: 0.933083883846154
Ferndale Preserve and it's set forth NOTE Confidence: 0.933083883846154
in the current version of the ISBA, NOTE Confidence: 0.933083883846154
and we're looking to extend that. NOTE Confidence: 0.933083883846154
The statute does say that unincorporated NOTE Confidence: 0.933083883846154
areas that are identified in the ISBA NOTE Confidence: 0.933083883846154
fall under the county's comprehensive NOTE Confidence: 0.933083883846154
plan and land development regulations. NOTE Confidence: 0.933083883846154
And that's what we're asking NOTE Confidence: 0.933083883846154
to make clear to everyone. NOTE Confidence: 0.933083883846154
It already provides that utilities NOTE Confidence: 0.933083883846154
could not be extended into that area NOTE Confidence: 0.933083883846154
without the party's agreement in NOTE Confidence: 0.933083883846154
the county's consent to utilities. NOTE Confidence: 0.933083883846154
So there's language in there. NOTE Confidence: 0.933083883846154
We are just asking that it be NOTE Confidence: 0.933083883846154
made clear that your comprehensive NOTE Confidence: 0.933083883846154
plan as it currently exists, NOTE Confidence: 0.933083883846154
would govern the Ferndale Preserve, NOTE Confidence: 0.933083883846154
preserve that area. NOTE Confidence: 0.933083883846154
And as Mr. NOTE Confidence: 0.933083883846154
Loreno said, the council has no intention of NOTE Confidence: 0.933083883846154
depriving anybody of their property rights. NOTE Confidence: 0.933083883846154
We would just want to ensure that NOTE Confidence: 0.933083883846154
your comp plan governs that area. NOTE Confidence: 0.933083883846154
Thank you very much. NOTE Confidence: 0.933083883846154
OK. NOTE Confidence: 0.933083883846154
Thank you, NOTE Confidence: 0.933083883846154
Miss Jane Hepting. NOTE Confidence: 0.95088561
Good morning, Mr. Chairman. NOTE Confidence: 0.95088561
Commissioners, my name is Jane Hepting. NOTE Confidence: 0.95088561
I live in Lake County and I am president NOTE Confidence: 0.95088561
of the Lake County Conservation Council, NOTE Confidence: 0.95088561
which was founded in 1987 to protect NOTE Confidence: 0.95088561
Lake County's natural resources. NOTE Confidence: 0.95088561
One of our major goals is protecting our NOTE Confidence: 0.95088561
rural protection areas from urban sprawl. NOTE Confidence: 0.95088561
So we hope you will extend the NOTE Confidence: 0.95088561
ISBA agreement to protect the NOTE Confidence: 0.95088561
rural character of Ferndale. NOTE Confidence: 0.95088561
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. NOTE Confidence: 0.95088561
Greg Gingermeyer. NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
Good morning, Commissioners. NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
Every time I hear a a pause and a name, NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
I know it's it's my name that's coming up. NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
15 years ago, Green Mountain Scenic Byway NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
and Friends of Ferndale got together NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
and we're really concerned that the NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
Ferndale area not qualifying as a, NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
as a town or a city are not able to NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
qualify as a town or a city municipality. NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
They, they were really worried that NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
they were just going to be disappearing. NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
And so we worked with the names I remember NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
were Fred and Wendy and Vaughn and Ed. NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
I don't know if any of those NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
are still around here now, NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
but that concern was there and NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
the concern is still there today. NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
I think I'm going to approach this NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
from a little bit different way and NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
that the concern is that the people in NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
Ferndale within this particular issue, NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
they don't have representation. NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
They have friends. They have. NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
And I know Mont Verde is fully, NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
fully behind it, NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
but they don't really have any friends. NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
And I think the only support that NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
they can truly gain, NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
and that support is by by way of voting NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
for the representatives is your counsel. NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
And they can't, NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
can't necessarily trust Mont Verde, NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
although I know Mont Verde's behind them. NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
They can't trust Claremont. NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
They can't trust Mineola and you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
the CDD doesn't really have any effect. NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
They can't vote for any of those people. NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
And so because you, NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
because they are your constituents, NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
I think the idea of protecting those NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
people in Ferndale is really important. NOTE Confidence: 0.771274171538461
Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.526107728
Thank you, Mayor Wine Coop. NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
Hello. Thank you for having me here today. NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
I just wanted to make sure I've NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
told everybody that I'm very, NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
very in favor of this ISPA. NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
We put it together back in 2010 NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
and just recently noticed it was NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
going to expire in six years. NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
So we wanted to bring it forward NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
right now and I think it'll do a lot NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
of good for the a lot of people. NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
What I'm handing to you right now NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
is pictures of our meetings that we NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
had so you can understand who was NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
there and also the paperwork that NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
everybody signed saying that they're NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
in favor of it that were there. NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
There's about 154 people there total NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
come and gone and they at that NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
represented a pretty big chunk of Ferndale, NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
probably 8085% of them. NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
We also got letter in there from NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
the Guy family who's one of the NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
bigger property owners there. NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
He owns 235 and one one 235 acres, NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
and then he also they own like NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
40 or fifty others, NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
but he wanted to make a statement that NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
their family's never going to sell NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
that land and they're pretty much NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
settled in there for a long time. NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
So anyway, that's about it. NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
Everybody that's got up and talked NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
to you all is pretty much said, NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
but I was going to say I just want NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
to make sure you know that I we are NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
our council is in all favor of this. NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
ISPAI also want to add that Jennifer NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
and Fred doing an awesome job for us NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
when we asked him to help for help. NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
They do a great job and I appreciate them. NOTE Confidence: 0.83383225
All right. Thank you, Miss Cindy Newton. NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
Good morning, Cindy Newton. NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
District Four. Well, NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
the Ferndale ISBA is in effect of 20-30. NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
It is coming up for and 2025 NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
for a periodical review. NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
So it's a good time to be looking NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
at this for extension development NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
pressures high in all of our rural NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
protection areas as well as our rural NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
areas designated for very precise NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
controlled growth and intended to keep NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
these rural areas of rural character. NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
Protect our water supply with recharge, NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
protect our water quality with NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
less nutrient loading and protect NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
our vital environmental resources, NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
including our unique farmland soil NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
for a sustainable local food source. NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
Developments rapidly changing NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
the character of our countryside, NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
negatively affecting our rural communities, NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
diminishing the wildlife habitat, NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
increasing traffic, NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
negatively affecting established NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
communities in small towns, NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
and a host of other issues related NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
to this encroachment. NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
Extending this ISBA is a step that NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
can be taken to greatly show needed NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
support for all rural citizens of NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
Lake County, Not just burned out. NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
Being in nature reduces our stress, NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
anger, fear, increases pleasant feelings. NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
Exposure to these open natural areas not NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
only makes us feel better emotionally, NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
it also contributes to our NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
physical well-being, NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
reproduces blood pressure, NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
heart rate, muscle tension, NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
and the production of stress hormones. NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
While all ISBA should be reviewed as written, NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
it is our hope that this one will NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
not only be extended as written, NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
but it will be held up as a NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
template for incorporating more NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
protective language in the other NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
Isbas and comprehension plan, NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
which include the rural protection areas. NOTE Confidence: 0.852553133333333
Thank you for your time. NOTE Confidence: 0.764279108
OK, Thank you, Miss Newton. NOTE Confidence: 0.764279108
Mr. Marty Proctor. NOTE Confidence: 0.847763461428572
Good morning, Marty Proctor, 18225 Rose St., NOTE Confidence: 0.847763461428572
Groveland, FL, my address only, NOTE Confidence: 0.847763461428572
and here's a private citizen. NOTE Confidence: 0.847763461428572
I also live in rural Lake County. NOTE Confidence: 0.847763461428572
I do not live in the city of Groveland. NOTE Confidence: 0.847763461428572
And I really do appreciate the fact NOTE Confidence: 0.847763461428572
that we have an outstanding sitting NOTE Confidence: 0.847763461428572
commissioners and council right now NOTE Confidence: 0.847763461428572
that are proactively going after NOTE Confidence: 0.847763461428572
these kinds of agreements and getting NOTE Confidence: 0.847763461428572
ahead of the curve on this. NOTE Confidence: 0.847763461428572
It makes me proud to be a citizen. NOTE Confidence: 0.847763461428572
It makes me proud to be NOTE Confidence: 0.847763461428572
represented by the five of you. NOTE Confidence: 0.847763461428572
So thank you very much for that. NOTE Confidence: 0.847763461428572
And ultimately what we need NOTE Confidence: 0.847763461428572
here is we need more Ferndales, NOTE Confidence: 0.847763461428572
we need more Umatillas, NOTE Confidence: 0.847763461428572
we need more Yolahas. NOTE Confidence: 0.847763461428572
We do not need another Mineola. NOTE Confidence: 0.847763461428572
We have one of those now. NOTE Confidence: 0.847763461428572
So that would be my suggestion would be to NOTE Confidence: 0.847763461428572
keep them the way they are as much as we can. NOTE Confidence: 0.847763461428572
Thank you very much for NOTE Confidence: 0.847763461428572
representing us so well. NOTE Confidence: 0.847763461428572
OK, thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.847763461428572
That's all the cards I have. NOTE Confidence: 0.847763461428572
Anybody else in the I just NOTE Confidence: 0.847763461428572
want to speak on this issue. NOTE Confidence: 0.847763461428572
Come on up. NOTE Confidence: 0.847763461428572
Please state your name and NOTE Confidence: 0.847763461428572
address for the record. NOTE Confidence: 0.712679777142857
I apologize. I turned in a card, NOTE Confidence: 0.712679777142857
so maybe it'll show up later on in NOTE Confidence: 0.712679777142857
the and it's somewhere around here. NOTE Confidence: 0.712679777142857
Nathan Fosch, most of you know me. NOTE Confidence: 0.712679777142857
Chairman, commissioners, staff. NOTE Confidence: 0.712679777142857
Thank you for giving me a moment. NOTE Confidence: 0.712679777142857
I've been to several of these meetings. NOTE Confidence: 0.712679777142857
I can tell you that the NOTE Confidence: 0.712679777142857
people that own this property. NOTE Confidence: 0.712679777142857
Oh, there we go. NOTE Confidence: 0.712679777142857
See, I wasn't lying. NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
Mr. Nathan, please come up. Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
So I've been to several of these NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
meetings and the residents clearly NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
do not want the growth. You know, NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
Mineola started this growth in the 90s. NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
This is not new. All of you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
these developers take many years. NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
They think in decades, NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
not in months and years, decades, NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
multiple decades. So some say, NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
why are we looking at renewing this now? NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
We still have six years, NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
seven years, whatever it is. NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
But the developers that's now, NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
they're looking now to buy this land. NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
They're looking now to see NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
who they can get to sell, NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
to move and develop that land. NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
So you need to do this now to let NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
them know this is not for development, NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
that this is rural. NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
So it's a today issue, not a tomorrow issue. NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
Mineola, as he stated, right? NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
We are growing faster than NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
I think most of us want. NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
We're dealing with sins of the past. NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
But we are literally NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
wrapping around Ferndale. NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
Pretty soon you will not be able to NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
get to Ferndale unless you do it by NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
boat and without going through Mineola. NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
So we've got to make sure NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
we put that defense up. NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
We've got to extend this. NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
I encourage you all to be in favor of this. NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
I can tell you at the Ferndale meeting, NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
a lot of my ex residents NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
from Sugarloaf are there. NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
They would like an ISBA right there NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
staring down the barrel of this NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
development as well and trying NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
to figure out how to protect it. NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
The last thing I want to say, NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
I've told those that are here NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
speaking at at the Ferndale meeting, NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
and I'll say it here publicly, NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
the best way to keep development from NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
growing into rural is don't sell your rural. NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
They don't steal your land, NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
they buy it. NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
If you don't want development in your area, NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
come up with plans on how not NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
to sell your land to developers. NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
I sold my acreage to a family that NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
at least told me they intend to stay NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
there and make it a family place. NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
I did not sell the developers and that NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
and your defense and extending the NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
ISBA will help us keep this world. NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
Thank you very much. NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
OK, thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
All right. NOTE Confidence: 0.906397052
Anybody else in the audience NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
seeing none? I'm closing the NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
public comments to the audience. NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
Anybody online that like NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
to speak on this issue? NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
Really. OK, Nobody online. NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
Commissioner Parks, yeah, NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
just thank you and I appreciate NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
everybody that showed up today. NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
And I'm just to recap a couple NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
of great points that were NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
bought up by various speakers. NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
Want to first point out sort NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
of the big picture here. NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
And if you look on the screen, NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
this is the Ferndale Rural NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
Protection area and its entirety. NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
And you see up in the, NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
in the in my left hand corner, NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
you see where the development is, NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
that's Mineola and look how close it is. NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
So you will also see on this map that NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
is the current entitlement you see. NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
What do you see there? NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
You see one unit per five acres. NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
You don't see PU DS that may have NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
some uncertainty as to, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
some kind of entitlement from way, NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
way back in the day. NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
There's no, NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
there's it's pretty clear NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
this is one unit per 5 acres. NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
Many of the land owners were there, NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
including the largest landowner, NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
the Guy family. NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
You have the letter, a copy of that. NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
Where can you point out NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
where the Guy property is? NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
Yeah. NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
So if you look on the the left more, NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
this is a little sideways here, NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
but you see the the Ferndale NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
Conservation area here, NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
Ferndale Preserve, NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
you go towards what would be my left, NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
the where the Green Mountain NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
Scenic Conway comes through. NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
There's some larger tracts of land look NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
like little 40 acre blocks that are all NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
kind of pieced together through here. NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
That is, NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
that is. NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
So when you're like driving that NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
and you look over and you can kind NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
of see what's happening in Mineola, NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
you see a little bit like that's it, NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
That's it goes all the way up to to the back. NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
And at one time there was a, NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
there was supposed to be a 300 NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
foot buffer or, or 100 foot out, NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
to be clear, could be 100, could be 300. NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
But there was a much larger buffer NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
planned between Mineola and that area. NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
This part of Ferndale that had sensed it's, NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
it's 25 feet now. NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
So you have that density, NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
4-5 units per acre from Mineola NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
literally on the line of the NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
Ferndale Preserve or the NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
Ferndale Rural Protection area. NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
And this has come up to Mont NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
Verts Credit very concerned, NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
obviously about what happens NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
as they eloquently stated. NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
And Nathan just said it sort of too, NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
because there's been interest, NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
there's sincere like real interest NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
from development within these NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
within these parts of Ferndale. NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
That's why all this has come up NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
and the desire to go ahead and, NOTE Confidence: 0.835491373
you know, extend the extend the ISBA. NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
So you'll see that the NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
turn out from the meeting. NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
I thought it was well attended. NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
As a side sort of a side note, NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
I would love for the county to go NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
out to Ferndale at some point. NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
Can you pull that picture up of the meeting? NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
I believe it was here online that I saw it. NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
It's definitely in our packet. NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
It's in our, it's in our, NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
it's in our packet. Yeah. NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
So you see, you know, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
you see a good crowd there. NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
They were. NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
They were all extremely NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
supportive of extending this NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
and they're all property owners. NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
There was some, NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
there was some people from Sugarloaf NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
Mountain that were there as well, NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
but they're all property owners NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
that were part of this meeting. NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
So I'm not sure. NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
I don't think I quite understand exactly how NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
this would affect somebody's proper right, NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
the proper rights. NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
I do appreciate attorneys perspective. NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
They're trying to protect us. NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
I'm not sure I understand it fully. NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
If it's you're just declaring that it is NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
what it is and you're extending the ISBA, NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
but you're making it clear that NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
it's one unit for five acres. NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
If there's if there's some rewarding NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
we have to do for that, I understand. NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
I think it's I think it's more NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
from the other attorneys. NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
But yeah, so just a couple of things. NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
This map is labeled the NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
Ferndale Rural Protection Area. NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
Just to clarify for the record, NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
Ferndale is not a rural protection NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
area as defined in our comp plan. NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
Ferndale is a special community. NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
There are different policies that NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
apply to rural protection areas NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
that do not apply to Ferndale. NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
So going forward when you get NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
ready to redo your comp plan, NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
which we know is coming in NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
the next year or so, NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
if you want to designate it NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
as a world protection area, NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
you need to do that at that time. NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
So it is a special community, not an RPA. NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
So all of those policies in the NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
RPA that we have for Wekiva, NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
Ocala and those areas do not NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
apply because this is not an RPA. NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
So just I just want to clarify NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
that because we have had a lot of NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
confusion over the past year with NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
people wanting to know what's our pay RPA, NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
what's not. NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
This is not as far as the issue NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
with property rights. NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
So the current ISBA doesn't lock the density. NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
It says that cities cannot annex NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
into Ferndale and Ferndale. NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
And the area defined on the map NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
is governed under Lake County's NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
comprehensive plan, NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
which is the world designation of NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
one to five and a conservation, NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
of course, which is the county park. NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
So we have to be careful when we go NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
forward that we don't incorporate NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
something into the ISBA that then NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
ties your hands when you are trying NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
to redo your comprehensive plan. NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
So you don't want to lock densities. NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
That's also where you may end NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
up with people making claims. NOTE Confidence: 0.949400346
Whether they have valid claims or not, NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
it's a different story. NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
It is still very costly to defend NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
when people file claims when NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
they're claiming either at taking NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
a property or the lesser taking NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
concept of the Burt Harris Act. NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
You still have to spend money NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
to defend against those claims. NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
So that's what I have to work NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
out with the city attorneys. NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
We have to find a wording that's going NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
to balance what you want to accomplish NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
with not impacting property rights. NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
Because currently anybody in this NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
area can come into the county and NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
they can submit an application NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
to amend the comprehensive plan. NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
If you say in your ISBA that this NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
must always be rural at 1:00 to 5:00, NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
then you potentially impact NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
somebody's property rights, NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
the right to come in and apply and present NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
to you a case to do something different. NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
So you are then governing your NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
comp plan by an external document. NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
So those are the things that we have NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
to work through before we bring this NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
back for any type of formal action. NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
Can can we do something similar NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
to the Groveland JPA? NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
So it's annexation I think is the issue, NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
right. NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
So, so if, if, if, NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
if you're a landowner and you NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
want to annex into Groveland, NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
the Groveland JPA and gets published finally, NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
it's going to say you have to NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
follow the county comp plan, NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
right? NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
So, NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
so, NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
so there's no point to annex into NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
the city of Groveland if you're in NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
the Green Swamp because you're not NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
going to get any more entitlements NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
in the county would have gotten you. NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
Doesn't that solve it? NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
Possibly that actual language. NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
I don't recall being in the Groveland JPA, NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
but we've got to go back and look at it. NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
I believe right now I'm, NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
I'm waiting on Groveland to NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
submit a revised draft. NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
So it may be something they've added NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
and I just haven't seen it yet. NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
I with the with the city decides to do, NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
if we agree in a JPA that the city NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
is going to set their comp plan to NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
some particular requirement and NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
somebody annexes in and they can, NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
they're only available for those categories. NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
You can do that, NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
but it's not the county comp plan is NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
not going to govern in a city boundary. NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
So if we agree with Groveland or any NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
other city that our densities will NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
apply whether somebody's annexed or not, NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
they have to adjust their NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
comprehensive plan to create those NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
categories to recognize those uses. NOTE Confidence: 0.866354103846154
The NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
I appreciate you pointing out NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
and changing the name is fine. NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
And I think if you look at the map, NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
the Frontier Rd. NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
protection area in the comp plan, NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
there's some confusion because they reference NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
it as a rural area in the special area. NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
So if we had to get that cleared up, NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
that's fine. I'm not proposing NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
to be clear to change the map. NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
The rural, the rural, NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
whether you call it a special area, NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
rural protection area, that's fine. NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
So I wanted to make that clear too. NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
It's not a that area. Yeah. NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
And, and my clarification is more NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
for the public because there are NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
some folks that are very attuned NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
into when you say the word RPA, NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
it means something very, NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
very specific. NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
So this is not an RPA under our plan, NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
doesn't say it can't be, NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
it doesn't say that it's not protected. NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
It's just that has a very specific meaning NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
to some groups out in the community NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
that follow these types of issues. NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
We might want to look at the NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
comp plan because I think they, NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
and some of the rural areas, NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
they do reference the rural, NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
they, they reference the mountain, NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
the Ferndale rural protection, NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
a rural special area as a, NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
as a rural area, the, NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
the Ferndale special area NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
as a rural protection area. NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
So, yeah, so we have lots of inconsistencies. NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
Yeah. NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
So that I mean, that's how that map was made. NOTE Confidence: 0.860275161818182
But yeah, NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
OK. And yeah, All right. NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
I think that's my my question now. NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
I got a question for the attorney NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
though on the Bert Harris issue. NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
If we were to let's just say we NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
don't wait for the comp plan, NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
all the changes that we're going NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
to be working on in the future, NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
we go ahead and let's just go NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
ahead and make this a rural NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
protection area and put those added, NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
you know that added language in there. NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
Is that a trigger for somebody then NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
to challenge us on Burt Harris? NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
Anytime you're changing your NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
comp plan or your LD Rs, NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
you could certainly trigger a claim. NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
The nice thing though is that we're NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
hearing that a lot of the people NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
that came to the meetings and NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
particularly the large land owners, NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
they seem to be on board. NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
So it could be that we work with them NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
and we do it more as a joint change, NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
not coming from the county, NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
but more as a grassroots application. NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
Yeah. NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
And again, NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
I'm not sure because as long as we NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
have a comp plan that is always, NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
somebody will always have the ability NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
to walk in with an AT and have submit NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
an application to get a land use change, NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
whether it's in a city or the county. NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
I mean, none of us up here, NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
ostensibly the answer is going to be no, NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
sorry. NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
You can put your application in, NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
but there's no chance we're NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
ever going to consider it. NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
I think that's where the rub comes NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
like if we actually have something NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
an official says this always has NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
to be one unit of five acres, NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
somebody puts an application in and we say, NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
no, NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
we have this rule that says it can NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
always has to be one unit, 5 acres. NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
I think that's might might be NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
what the concern is that that NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
triggers the Burt Harris, NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
you know that aren't we saying that NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
anyway with the rural protection areas? NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
Well, yes and no. NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
I mean, NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
the rural protection areas NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
don't necessarily set density NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
because that's an overlay. NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
You still have underlying comp plan. NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
Some of them have rural one to five, NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
some are have rural transition, NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
which gives you some flexibility NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
that the RPA is an overlay. NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
But I, NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
I think ultimately I and the city NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
attorneys are going to work towards NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
some language that will get you NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
hopefully where you would like to NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
be and protect the county and the NOTE Confidence: 0.617928954
cities from any type of future claim. NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
So the purpose for this meeting is NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
just to give you direction on what we, NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
the board want you to go after, correct. NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
I, we anticipate bringing something NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
back in July for board approval. NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
And just to reiterate though, NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
if there's any chance you can get NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
property owners on board and you can NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
actually designate it in such a way, NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
I mean, maybe that's something NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
to look at in the future. NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
But there's no question when you make this NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
drive and you drive through this area, NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
it is like a breath of fresh air. NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
It's just gorgeous. NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
And that property in particular we NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
were talking about where you kind of NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
look over the horizon and you see NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
that and you just think to yourself, NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
I hope that never changes because it's, NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
it's just, it's beautiful. NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
And we have the Ferndale or the NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
scenic overlook there, which is being, NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
you know, it's, NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
it's being enlarged and it's NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
going to be higher. NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
It's going to be that's NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
going to be incredible. NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
So this is definitely long NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
after we are all gone. NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
This potentially can be one of NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
those places that people in Lake NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
County and people from all over NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
will talk about if we do this right. NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
So I definitely want to say thank NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
you to the town of Mont Verde and as NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
well as many on Claremont and for NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
the residents for getting on board. NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
And it's exciting and maybe maybe some NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
of the other cities that see this, NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
that have some of these same types NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
of attributes, we'll, NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
we'll look at this as an opportunity NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
to actually use an ISBA for a NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
alternative purpose than than what it NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
has typically been used for in the past. NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
So thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
OK, Commissioner Blake, yeah. NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
I mean, NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
so we're just supposed to provide direction. NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
I don't feel like I have enough of a grasp NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
on the implications to provide direction. NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
I'm, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
I'll have to sit down with Melanie NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
and talk about some things. NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
Why the 20 years? NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
Why the 13 years that that's the furthest NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
out it can go as a 20 year extension, NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
I believe so. NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
I believe the statute only allows 20 years. NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
So if there's six years left, NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
is the idea just every year NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
extended out to the maximum 20? NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
You see what I'm saying? NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
Six years is a long time. NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
So I'm just wondering why, NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
why at this moment to do that? NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
It's a signal to developers that might NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
be looking at the property to go, NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
Oh no, NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
these three governments have NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
decided that this is really the NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
direction we want this to go. NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
But is that a signal that's going NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
to be sent out every year that NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
we're going to extend this 20 years, NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
20 years, 20 years? NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
I just, I don't, I don't think so. NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
I mean, I guess that in theory could happen. NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
But no, I think they just, NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
I think it's just to extend it NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
20 years to as well said. NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
I mean, NOTE Confidence: 0.924827416
it's just sort of a NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
it's the four of us entities saying, NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
you know, the people we represent, NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
this is the vision for this area and NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
we want to continue with that vision. NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
Yeah, I'll just say this. NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
And I'm not comfortable providing NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
direction because it's something I NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
feel like I need to understand better. NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
But I've said this before and I just caution NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
everyone that I love rural, beautiful, NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
scenic property as much as anybody. NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
But the assumption seems to become that you, NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
there's this, there's this right, NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
this fundamental right to a NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
view of someone else's property. NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
And that's, that doesn't exist. NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
That right does not exist. NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
And so I want to be very careful NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
that we're protecting the individual NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
property rights and completely agreed NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
with your comments that you can, NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
you're free to sell it to somebody NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
that that's going to do what NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
you want to do with it. NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
That's that's a private transaction. NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
But you have to be really careful NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
to try to lock in because, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
if you think it's beautiful at 1:00 to 5:00, NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
imagine how beautiful it was at zero to five, NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
right? NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
But everybody still built a NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
house and developed out there. NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
And so you just have to be very careful NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
about the property rights aspect of it, NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
which is which is my concern why I'm not NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
comfortable saying yay or nay today. NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
Can I just mention, though, NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
that I think that's why it's so NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
important for it to be a collaboration, NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
because I think then it addresses NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
those issues of property rights. NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
And, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
if everybody decides this is what we're NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
going to try to do together, that's the key. NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
Yeah. NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
And and there was some, most of those people, NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
there were property owners and very, NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
very clear message. NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
They're involved, right. NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
But there were property owners NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
who owned it before then, NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
right? NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
And at some point they developed the NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
property and I'm sure there were NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
tons of people not happy about that. NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
So my point is just that you can't NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
just you can't just think this is a NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
snapshot in time. And that's great. NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
And I completely agree. NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
It's beautiful drive through the but NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
you have to think of future property NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
owners in the impact on them as well. NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
I agree. NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
But they, you know, they, NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
they bought with a one to five entitlement. NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
They knew what they were, NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
they were getting into and that's NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
what they wanted. NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
And that's it would continue that way. NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
Wouldn't prohibit somebody from NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
selling it for to 1:00 to 5:00 or some NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
special exception to come in in the future. NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
And, you know, to be clear, again, NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
nobody's, none of us want to die. NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
Anybody's constitutional rights on that. NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
That's to be clear. NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
They'll be, they'll be due process NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
and and a system to do that. NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
Yeah. NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
And like I said, NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
I just want to make sure I fully understand NOTE Confidence: 0.830734744285714
the implications before I weigh in. NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
OK. So I don't have a problem NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
given direction of where we want NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
to go because Melanie's going NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
to bring them back to us anyway. NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
You're talking about property rights. NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
The person that currently owns NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
the land currently has all the NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
property rights to that land. NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
If that person wants to make NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
it 1 to 20 or 1:00 to 5:00, NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
then he should be able to. NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
He or she should be able to do that NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
as they currently own the land today. NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
So I like your idea of maybe encouraging NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
all the property owners out there NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
to come to a collaborative agreement NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
to what you want and then let the NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
attorney and the state attorney NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
and Ferndale come to an agreement. NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
So how would you like to move? NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
Yeah, I think the, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
if I were to make a motion, NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
if that's even needed, NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
but it would be to direct, NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
direct staff to bring us, NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
bring us something to advertise in NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
ordinance to advertise to extend NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
the ISBA for another 13 years. NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
And then also, NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
assuming that you're going to work, NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
Melanie's going to work with the NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
other attorneys to craft the language NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
to make it clear that the intent NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
is to protect that that density, NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
but also protect the property NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
rights there as well. That's OK. NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
We have a motion and a second. NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
The only thing I would like to ask in NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
that motion is she's going to bring NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
it back to us, correct? Correct. NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
Yeah. OK. Was that in your motion? NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
That's my motion. OK, All right. NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
We have a motion to need to NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
2nd any further discussion. NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
All those in favor say aye, aye, opposed aye. NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
Motion carries 41. NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
OK, thank you all. NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
We're going to we're going to take, NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
I'm assuming some of y'all are y'all NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
going to stay for the wonderful NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
presentations we have today? NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
You could stay for the land acquisition NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
referendum in the comp plan. NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
We'll give a 5 minute break and then NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
we'll come back and well, I won't leave, NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
but in 5 minutes, we'll be coming back. NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.910545632857143
Appreciate it. NOTE Confidence: 0.656867536666667
Thanks. Recording stopped. NOTE Confidence: 0.87998067
OK. We're back in session. NOTE Confidence: 0.87998067
We're coming down to our presentations. NOTE Confidence: 0.87998067
And what a fantastic segue from NOTE Confidence: 0.87998067
my last tab to this tab Mr. NOTE Confidence: 0.87998067
Mike Fitzgerald, NOTE Confidence: 0.87998067
Director of Planning and Zoning. NOTE Confidence: 0.878407704
Good morning. Thank you, Chairman. NOTE Confidence: 0.878407704
Commissioners for the record, NOTE Confidence: 0.878407704
Mike Fitzgerald, NOTE Confidence: 0.878407704
Office of Planning and Zoning Director, NOTE Confidence: 0.878407704
as an introduction to this item, NOTE Confidence: 0.878407704
the Lake County Comprehensive Plan NOTE Confidence: 0.878407704
became effective on September 22nd, 2011. NOTE Confidence: 0.878407704
Florida Statutes requires that at NOTE Confidence: 0.878407704
least once every seven years that NOTE Confidence: 0.878407704
each local government evaluate its NOTE Confidence: 0.878407704
comprehensive plan to determine if the, NOTE Confidence: 0.878407704
if any amendments are necessary. NOTE Confidence: 0.878407704
On June 15th, 2022, NOTE Confidence: 0.878407704
the county awarded a contract NOTE Confidence: 0.878407704
to Kanan and Associates, NOTE Confidence: 0.878407704
which subsequently became Kim Lee NOTE Confidence: 0.878407704
Horn and Associates to evaluate our NOTE Confidence: 0.878407704
comprehensive plan and they have NOTE Confidence: 0.878407704
done so and determined that there NOTE Confidence: 0.878407704
are certain amendments that are NOTE Confidence: 0.878407704
necessary and they have some other NOTE Confidence: 0.878407704
recommendations to be made as well. NOTE Confidence: 0.878407704
With that, NOTE Confidence: 0.878407704
I will introduce Nathan Milch NOTE Confidence: 0.878407704
and Eliza Giuliano. NOTE Confidence: 0.878407704
And with the Board's permission, NOTE Confidence: 0.878407704
I'll turn the presentation over to them. NOTE Confidence: 0.856531006
Good morning, chair and Commissioners. NOTE Confidence: 0.856531006
Thank you for having me here today. NOTE Confidence: 0.856531006
I'm Eliza Harris Juliano. NOTE Confidence: 0.856531006
I'm joined by Nathan Milt, NOTE Confidence: 0.856531006
who's I may call on during Q&A NOTE Confidence: 0.856531006
depending on what the questions are. NOTE Confidence: 0.856531006
I apologize. NOTE Confidence: 0.856531006
Is there a slide remote here? NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
And indeed what a what a great NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
segue for this presentation. NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
As was mentioned, we are here NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
to talk about the comprehensive NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
plan and basically two tranches. NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
There is the required updates as NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
part of the evaluation and appraisal NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
process and then additional NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
recommendations that start to address NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
some of the the bigger picture NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
questions that Lake County is going NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
to be facing over the coming years. NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
As Mike mentioned, NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
the evaluation and appraisal NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
process is a required state process. NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
It happens every seven years. NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
Not everyone is significant. NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
Sometimes it's just kind of a box NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
checking exercise to deal with changes NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
that have happened in the Florida Statutes. NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
But it always requires taking a NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
a good look at the comprehensive NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
plan and making sure that it's NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
dealing with the issues that are NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
current for the community today. NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
And one other important point, NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
the the letter which essentially NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
said there are needed updates NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
because the state requires certain NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
updates was sent on May 1st. NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
We are the county is required to NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
make amendments to deal with those NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
core updates within one year. NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
And then there's the ability to make NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
other updates to respond to local conditions. NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
So currently the county has a population NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
of a little over 400,000 by 2030 NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
that's anticipated to be just under NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
480,000 and ultimately by 20 fifty 566,000. NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
And of course not all of that is in NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
the unincorporated area which the NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
which the comp plan primarily governs, NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
but about 1/3 of it is in NOTE Confidence: 0.814419005454545
the unincorporated area. NOTE Confidence: 0.959414073333333
So we took a little bit of a NOTE Confidence: 0.959414073333333
snapshot of local conditions. NOTE Confidence: 0.959414073333333
We know that economic development NOTE Confidence: 0.959414073333333
is a concern for the county, NOTE Confidence: 0.959414073333333
so we looked at the top industries NOTE Confidence: 0.959414073333333
today which are healthcare, NOTE Confidence: 0.959414073333333
social assistance, NOTE Confidence: 0.959414073333333
retail, and food service. NOTE Confidence: 0.959414073333333
One thing I want to key on in on NOTE Confidence: 0.959414073333333
here is the median sales price NOTE Confidence: 0.959414073333333
for single family homes. That's NOTE Confidence: 0.91716635
$363,000. What does that actually mean? NOTE Confidence: 0.91716635
For some people that might sound like a lot. NOTE Confidence: 0.91716635
For some people it might not NOTE Confidence: 0.91716635
sound like not that much. NOTE Confidence: 0.91716635
But what it means from a practical NOTE Confidence: 0.91716635
standpoint for the citizens of Lake NOTE Confidence: 0.91716635
County is about 30% of homeowners NOTE Confidence: 0.91716635
are considered cost burdened. NOTE Confidence: 0.91716635
That means they spend more than NOTE Confidence: 0.91716635
30% of their income on housing. NOTE Confidence: 0.91716635
When you start to look at renters, NOTE Confidence: 0.91716635
it's even higher. NOTE Confidence: 0.91716635
Over 50% of renters are NOTE Confidence: 0.91716635
considered cost burden. NOTE Confidence: 0.91716635
So Lake County is starting NOTE Confidence: 0.91716635
to see the impacts of growth NOTE Confidence: 0.91716635
in terms of housing cost. NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
I mentioned there are state required NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
amendments based on updates NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
with with the florist statutes. NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
Most of those are fairly straightforward. NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
The Department of Health is going NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
to be monitoring has is handing NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
over the monitoring of septic NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
tank systems to the Department of NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
Environmental Protection and that NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
requires changes to several elements. NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
There's also amendments required NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
because the county is trying to enable NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
solar facilities both in agricultural NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
areas as well as floating solar. NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
So the amendments you see on this slide NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
are also dealing again with that septic NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
tank change and those solar facilities NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
as well as other updates to definitions. NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
And I, I should note I'm going to NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
be moving pretty quickly here. NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
You have the full report in your packet NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
if you want to review that in detail as NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
well as the slide deck available to you. NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
But I know you, NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
you have a tight schedule. NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
So we're going to keep to that NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
at least on my end. NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
So we did a review of every single NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
element of the comprehensive plan, NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
which I'm going to go through pretty quickly. NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
And then we go are going to rewind a NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
little bit and focus on the future NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
land use element in particular, NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
because that's one of the the biggest NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
elements in terms of the discussion NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
with the community about what growth NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
is going to look like going forward. NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
So ultimately we heard, NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
we heard today about the the importance NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
of maintaining rural character NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
and that of course is balanced by NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
where's the growth going to go if NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
we're maintaining these rural areas. NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
So the the flip side of that is NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
encouraging info and redevelopment, NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
whether it be within the cities or NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
within areas of unincorporated Lake County. NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
And then there's also some practical NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
updates in terms of organization. NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
We heard mentioned earlier that there's NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
some inconsistencies in the comp plan, NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
Certainly want to clear those up NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
as well as inconsistencies between NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
the comp plan and the code capital NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
improvement elements. NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
This is again some clean up tasks NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
in terms of making sure we're NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
removing redundancy, NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
making sure we're up to NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
date with other lists, NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
including the prioritized list of projects NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
and updating outdated references. NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
The conservation element, NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
we identified opportunities here. NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
And again, NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
there's there's more detail in your NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
packet on how to strengthen and clarify NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
some of those Environmental Protection NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
standards to think about wetlands and NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
their impact on the regional system, NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
as well as making sure that all the NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
important conservation areas are NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
recognized within the comprehensive plan NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
in terms of the economic development element. NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
So historically Lake County was, NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
was one of these communities that was NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
considered to be more of a bedroom community. NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
And we know that that's changing NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
that there's an interest from this NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
Commission and from the community NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
to be a full service county, NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
to have more of a jobs housing balance. NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
And that's reflected in the NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
economic action plan, NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
which the comp plan should be NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
updated to be consistent with. NOTE Confidence: 0.869413364545455
And that means attracting more employers and NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
and that workforce that will NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
serve those those employers. NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
And with workers also comes housing. NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
So switching to the housing element, NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
we talked a little bit earlier about NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
how housing attainability is starting NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
to become an issue in Lake County and NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
if economic development is successful NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
that will become more of an issue. NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
So moving forward thinking about how NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
to diversify the county's housing NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
stop then stock becomes important NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
again from a clean up standpoint, NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
streamlining the cross references and NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
the inter governmental coordination NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
element as well as updating that to be NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
consistent with the the water supply NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
plan which is being currently updated NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
and coordinated with regional efforts. NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
Parks and Recreation, NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
we identified opportunities here to NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
really create measurable goals that we NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
can look to identify the performance NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
of that system as well as aligning with NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
budgeting and funding opportunities. NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
Transportation, as we know, NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
is always very closely aligned with growth. NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
And our entire region is thinking much NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
more seriously about how to be holistic NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
in that approach to transportation NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
and think not just about how people NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
travel via personal motor vehicle, NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
but also how people are traveling when NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
they're outside of a motor vehicle, NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
whether walking, biking, NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
taking public transit, NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
as well as we know that industrial NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
is significant in Lake County. NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
And so how freight movement happens NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
is an important part of that NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
transportation element. NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
So making sure that there's connectivity NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
for all modes as growth happens to NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
keep people's access and mobility NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
good and to improve quality of life. NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
Public facilities element, NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
we're getting close to the end NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
here of this section. NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
Again, NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
this is a lot of opportunities for clean up. NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
One thing that I, I, NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
we didn't touch on earlier is that, NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
and this is true of several elements, NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
that there's language that really NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
would be best served by being in NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
the land development code that NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
right now sits in the comp plan. NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
So that's a clean up opportunity NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
throughout the comp plan to make sure NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
that those things that are really NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
specific standards that are more NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
typically found in a code move out of NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
the comp plan into the code and that NOTE Confidence: 0.894786996666667
the comp plan is a policy level document. NOTE Confidence: 0.872875422857143
So that's our view of the elements. NOTE Confidence: 0.872875422857143
Again, more detail in the NOTE Confidence: 0.872875422857143
packet on each one of those. NOTE Confidence: 0.872875422857143
One of the requirements of the state NOTE Confidence: 0.872875422857143
is to look at the comprehensive NOTE Confidence: 0.872875422857143
plan to look at the future land use NOTE Confidence: 0.872875422857143
map and determine whether it can NOTE Confidence: 0.872875422857143
accommodate the growth that's expected. NOTE Confidence: 0.872875422857143
We went over those Bieber numbers earlier NOTE Confidence: 0.872875422857143
in terms of what level of growth is NOTE Confidence: 0.872875422857143
expected in in population, the county. NOTE Confidence: 0.872875422857143
We also did a kind of quick analysis. NOTE Confidence: 0.872875422857143
A more detailed analysis would appropriately NOTE Confidence: 0.872875422857143
be part of the actual comp plan update, NOTE Confidence: 0.872875422857143
but we did a quick analysis to just NOTE Confidence: 0.872875422857143
kind of get a sense of whether or not NOTE Confidence: 0.872875422857143
the current comp plan creates that NOTE Confidence: 0.872875422857143
opportunity to to accommodate growth. NOTE Confidence: 0.872875422857143
So by the numbers, essentially it does. NOTE Confidence: 0.872875422857143
There is theoretically enough NOTE Confidence: 0.872875422857143
love capacity in the comp plan to NOTE Confidence: 0.872875422857143
accommodate the growth that's expected. NOTE Confidence: 0.872875422857143
There's still a need to look and make NOTE Confidence: 0.872875422857143
sure that that growth is still where NOTE Confidence: 0.872875422857143
the community wants to see it happen, NOTE Confidence: 0.872875422857143
where it's meeting the community's NOTE Confidence: 0.872875422857143
values and that it's designed in such NOTE Confidence: 0.872875422857143
a way that it it improves the quality NOTE Confidence: 0.872875422857143
of life within the county going forward NOTE Confidence: 0.872875422857143
rather than denigrating the quality NOTE Confidence: 0.872875422857143
of life that the citizens now enjoy. NOTE Confidence: 0.8471942025
So with that, I said I'm going to NOTE Confidence: 0.8471942025
delve a little bit more into that NOTE Confidence: 0.8471942025
future land use element piece. NOTE Confidence: 0.8471942025
So we started out this process by NOTE Confidence: 0.8471942025
taking what we call a synoptic Dr. NOTE Confidence: 0.8471942025
of the county. NOTE Confidence: 0.8471942025
This is really looking at character NOTE Confidence: 0.8471942025
and we know the county has a NOTE Confidence: 0.8471942025
really diverse character from NOTE Confidence: 0.8471942025
small towns to rural areas and NOTE Confidence: 0.8471942025
rapidly growing suburban areas. NOTE Confidence: 0.8471942025
And just a few samples of what what NOTE Confidence: 0.8471942025
that looks like from our perspective. NOTE Confidence: 0.8471942025
Some of these beautiful rural NOTE Confidence: 0.8471942025
areas that people were talking NOTE Confidence: 0.8471942025
about earlier and those views, NOTE Confidence: 0.8471942025
as well as some great little small NOTE Confidence: 0.8471942025
towns like the one we sit in today. NOTE Confidence: 0.852222605
So as we talk about growth, NOTE Confidence: 0.852222605
one of the tools we use is this idea, NOTE Confidence: 0.852222605
economic idea of favored quarters and NOTE Confidence: 0.852222605
it starts to tell us why Lake County NOTE Confidence: 0.852222605
is starting to see an uptick in growth. NOTE Confidence: 0.852222605
Now, of course, the growth started in NOTE Confidence: 0.852222605
what's the regional core in Orange County, NOTE Confidence: 0.852222605
kind of followed I4 N into Seminole County, NOTE Confidence: 0.852222605
then went started to go NOTE Confidence: 0.852222605
South into Osceola County. NOTE Confidence: 0.852222605
And as those areas get higher priced NOTE Confidence: 0.852222605
and see less and less available land, NOTE Confidence: 0.852222605
we're seeing more of a push into Lake NOTE Confidence: 0.852222605
County's quadrant here to the West. NOTE Confidence: 0.93414343
So as we look at the county, NOTE Confidence: 0.93414343
we see again that diversity and NOTE Confidence: 0.93414343
we've tried to visualize that by NOTE Confidence: 0.93414343
looking at four different sectors. NOTE Confidence: 0.93414343
There's the more natural and rural sectors NOTE Confidence: 0.93414343
on the North and South end with the Green NOTE Confidence: 0.93414343
Swamp and the Wekiva protection area. NOTE Confidence: 0.93414343
There's those areas that are NOTE Confidence: 0.93414343
adjacent to the Turnpike, NOTE Confidence: 0.93414343
which we're calling the NOTE Confidence: 0.93414343
economic development sector. NOTE Confidence: 0.93414343
And then finally the lake sector, NOTE Confidence: 0.93414343
which again is where we are today, NOTE Confidence: 0.93414343
where you see the all of the small NOTE Confidence: 0.93414343
towns and historic communities NOTE Confidence: 0.93414343
that are that historically were NOTE Confidence: 0.93414343
more urban within Lake County at NOTE Confidence: 0.93414343
the time that they were built. NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
We had the opportunity to sit down with NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
each of the commissioners and talk about NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
what you see going forward in terms of NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
key issues and concerns for the county. NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
And when we after we came out of those NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
meetings, we we came up with four key NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
issues that we saw as being kind of NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
a consensus among most of the group. NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
Those were preserving and maintaining NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
role character, protecting and NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
sensitive environmental lands, NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
promoting economic development and growth, NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
and supporting attainable housing. NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
And I'm going to talk briefly about each of NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
those and some of the strategies that we NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
might use going forward to address those. NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
So of course, when we talk about NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
maintaining rural character, NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
one of the strategies is to preserve NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
and conserve land through all the NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
means that are available to the county NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
and to the citizens of the county. NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
As we talked about earlier, NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
that's there's also balancing that. NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
One of the ways to protect the rural NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
areas is to be very clear on where NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
growth is encouraged and to continue NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
to encourage it in those areas, NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
the county, where it's appropriate. NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
But there's also ways to look at NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
those rural areas and say if growth NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
is going to happen, NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
how do we assure that it is consistent NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
with the character and maintain some NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
of the things that people like through NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
things like rural design guidelines. NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
We also know that you've recently NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
passed the Conservation Subdivision NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
ordinance and there's probably more NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
opportunities to look at the strategies NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
like that that would help to create NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
any development that does happen in NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
or near the rural areas to be continue NOTE Confidence: 0.930724516
that character that people enjoy NOTE Confidence: 0.867937772692308
preserving environmental areas. NOTE Confidence: 0.867937772692308
We know that one of the main strategies NOTE Confidence: 0.867937772692308
the county is using now to do this is the NOTE Confidence: 0.867937772692308
transfer of development rights program. NOTE Confidence: 0.867937772692308
Transfer of development rights NOTE Confidence: 0.867937772692308
programs are around the country. NOTE Confidence: 0.867937772692308
They there you find them, NOTE Confidence: 0.867937772692308
they can be pretty difficult. NOTE Confidence: 0.867937772692308
And we know that right now Stetson NOTE Confidence: 0.867937772692308
and the Regional Planning Council is NOTE Confidence: 0.867937772692308
evaluating your TDR program to make sure NOTE Confidence: 0.867937772692308
that it's working as well as it can. NOTE Confidence: 0.867937772692308
From looking at our recommendations, NOTE Confidence: 0.867937772692308
one of our recommendations NOTE Confidence: 0.867937772692308
was to think about, NOTE Confidence: 0.867937772692308
particularly on larger properties, NOTE Confidence: 0.867937772692308
the ability to consolidate those rights NOTE Confidence: 0.867937772692308
within a larger property is a lot easier NOTE Confidence: 0.867937772692308
to do than when you start having to NOTE Confidence: 0.867937772692308
do trading between different property owners. NOTE Confidence: 0.867937772692308
So that's just, NOTE Confidence: 0.867937772692308
that's just a reality. NOTE Confidence: 0.867937772692308
Now both can work and we want to NOTE Confidence: 0.867937772692308
encourage wherever it's possible to, NOTE Confidence: 0.867937772692308
to support those preservation goals, NOTE Confidence: 0.867937772692308
but recognizing that some of the paths are NOTE Confidence: 0.867937772692308
going to be more difficult than others. NOTE Confidence: 0.898389021666667
We mentioned that economic development NOTE Confidence: 0.898389021666667
sector. We also know that the county has NOTE Confidence: 0.898389021666667
significant efforts like the Wellness Way NOTE Confidence: 0.898389021666667
and the Wolf Branch Innovation District to NOTE Confidence: 0.898389021666667
start to support economic development and NOTE Confidence: 0.898389021666667
bring those jobs into the county. Again, NOTE Confidence: 0.898389021666667
looking at some some of the national models, NOTE Confidence: 0.898389021666667
we introduced this concept of economic NOTE Confidence: 0.898389021666667
development course and recognizing NOTE Confidence: 0.898389021666667
where those could be within the county. NOTE Confidence: 0.898389021666667
Essentially what that is, NOTE Confidence: 0.898389021666667
is looking at is where really robust NOTE Confidence: 0.898389021666667
job centers can be and a lot of times NOTE Confidence: 0.898389021666667
they're found around interchanges. NOTE Confidence: 0.898389021666667
Those interchanges can typically support NOTE Confidence: 0.898389021666667
in the area of 25,000 to 30,000 jobs. NOTE Confidence: 0.898389021666667
And then once you hit that, NOTE Confidence: 0.898389021666667
typically they'll start to move NOTE Confidence: 0.898389021666667
up the road to a different center. NOTE Confidence: 0.898389021666667
So that's what we're looking at NOTE Confidence: 0.898389021666667
here and starting to identify where NOTE Confidence: 0.898389021666667
those things might be happening. NOTE Confidence: 0.898389021666667
And in fact we know that the Mineola NOTE Confidence: 0.898389021666667
Interchange is a place that already NOTE Confidence: 0.898389021666667
has a lot of entitled development NOTE Confidence: 0.898389021666667
including over 3,000,000 square NOTE Confidence: 0.898389021666667
feet of non residential development. NOTE Confidence: 0.898389021666667
Significant amount of the residential NOTE Confidence: 0.898389021666667
development that's happening there is NOTE Confidence: 0.898389021666667
still in the form of single family. NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
And all of that starts to get NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
Lake County closer to having NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
more of a jobs housing balance. NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
And we know in fact there's a jobs housing NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
balance requirement within Wellness way. NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
So finally, our last key issue NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
being attainable housing. NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
Again, if you have those jobs, NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
we need to make sure that there's enough NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
housing within the county to accommodate NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
the the people that come with them. NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
Certainly some of those people NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
will already live here, NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
but some of them won't. NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
Historically, Lake County has been more NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
of a a single family driven community. NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
And we know that people value that lifestyle. NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
But as we see more people moving in, NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
the more low, NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
the lower density those people are living at, NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
the more of the land within the NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
county that's going to impact. NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
And there also creates affordability NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
issues if the only options are the NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
single family are the larger lot homes. NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
So we we identified the need to NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
explore different sizes of housing, NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
different types of housing that would NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
start to diversify that obviously the the NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
first go to for if it's not single family, NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
then it's apartment buildings. NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
But the reality is there's a lot of other NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
options in between a 250 to 300 unit NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
apartment complex and a single family home. NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
And exploring what those options might NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
be and how the county can enable those NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
to happen while keeping more of a fine NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
grained community character is one NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
opportunity to look at as this new NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
comprehensive plan update comes along. NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
So just to wrap up, NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
this is a an area that is going NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
to evolve pretty quickly because NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
it's going to see more of a wave NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
of growth coming this direction. NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
And as such, NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
it's a great time to be looking at NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
the comprehensive plan and making NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
sure that it's guided by a powerful NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
vision for what the future of NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
the community could look like. NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
We think that this sector based NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
approach is part of that. NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
There's also practical needs to NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
update inconsistencies both within NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
the comprehensive plan and between NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
the comp plan and the LDC and address NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
some of those functional concerns. NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
But ultimately, NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
as the county starts to have NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
more robust job base, NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
thinking about how both preservation NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
will happen of the rural and the NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
environmentally sensitive areas NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
and how that will be balanced with NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
having attainable housing for NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
the people that live here and the NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
people that serve businesses here NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
is going to become really important. NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
One other thing, I call this the fun thing. NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
We've, NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
we call this A50 year opportunity because it, NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
it's, it's a hard thing to do. NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
But I know there's been talk that NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
I've been party to for at least over NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
a decade about trying to create a NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
connection into Orange County via the NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
existing rail connection that exists NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
all the way almost to Umatilla through NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
to varies and down into Orlando. NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
So we took a little bit of time NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
to to talk to some of our rail NOTE Confidence: 0.969841141666667
experts about what that NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
might look like and how, NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
what would be required to to attain NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
federal funding for an effort like that. NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
But it's a, it's a real opportunity NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
for the long term that's important NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
and potentially impacting, of course, NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
the cities that it goes through, NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
but also unincorporated NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
areas within the county. NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
And what would that look like? NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
So to wrap up here, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
so far what we've done is NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
meet the state requirements. NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
We've also done an evaluation of NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
the existing comprehensive plan NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
in some in in some level of detail NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
to identify what the needs would NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
be for a more robust comprehensive NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
plan update going forward. NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
The recommended next steps would be NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
to really have a community engaged NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
county wide vision that can start to NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
guide those comprehensive plan updates NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
and ultimately those roll down into NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
a land development code updates. NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
And with that, I defer to the chair NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
on questions or or next steps. NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
OK, any questions? NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
Commissioner Parks, NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
thank you for the presentation. NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
Maybe just a couple of questions and NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
a comment the if you can go back you NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
started to touch on I think with NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
like a total number of entitlements. NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
I don't remember which slide that was, NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
but we'd, NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
we'd ask this question on the board. NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
I don't know, maybe over a year ago it came, NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
I think it came up during the NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
joint planning agreement meetings. NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
What and I'm not sure I we have NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
ever gotten that number. NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
What is the total entitlement NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
cities included for Lake County? NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
Because you know the and it could NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
go to my point. NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
My comment would be. NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
Preferably I like to focus on NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
redevelopment and infill. NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
So what is what is that number? NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
That's a good number for everybody NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
to have as a good starting point NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
as we go into the visioning. NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
Sure. NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
So these the slide that I have up now NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
is the the numbers that we calculated, NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
we estimated there's a capacity of NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
a little over 80,000 dwelling units NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
and that's just in the unincorporated area. NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
So it gets to be a much more NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
complicated effort when you start NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
to include the cities because you NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
have to deal with 13 different comp NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
plans and and all of those entitlements. NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
But essentially what that means is NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
that the county could theoretically NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
accommodate all of the growth that's NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
expected through the Bieber 2045 NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
projection just in the unincorporated area. NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
Now I don't know that that's going NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
to have an outcome that everyone NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
is comfortable with in terms of NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
how that would look and function, NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
but it's theoretically possible. NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
Yeah. NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
But the cities I think is going NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
to be important too to get that. NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
And I know a couple of the cities NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
I think have provided that data, NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
but I, NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
I think that'll be important to go NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
and going into visioning for us for NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
the comp plan is what is the total and, NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
and have you drilled down to some NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
of some of those are not realistic, NOTE Confidence: 0.9432342864
You know, the site suitability, NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
they might all be wetlands NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
deep in a floodplain. NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
Did you do some of that? NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
We did some basic, I believe, NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
let me just Nathan unit we took out, NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
I believe we took out wetlands. NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
So we would typically do that, NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
but it's, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
at a regional scale. NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
We also know that that assumes NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
everyone maxes out their entitlements. NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
And very often developers actually don't Max NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
out their entitlements in certain areas, NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
particularly where those NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
entitlements are higher. NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
So this is what I would definitely call NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
this a quick and dirty analysis and a NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
deeper analysis would be appropriate. NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
But it starts to give us a sense that NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
we don't have a big problem in terms NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
of satisfying the state requirements. NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
Yeah, there's so there's you're it's NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
showing just from this rough cut NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
that there's plenty of capacity. NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
I mean it also might help with NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
when we go into the TDR program, NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
I think the intent is find something NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
that's feasible that we're comfortable with. NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
I was point this out, NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
it's voluntary, NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
but it and respects free market. NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
But I think that for that to work, NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
we have to know the we have to know NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
the total entitlements because that's NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
how you're going to move the density NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
around and get it out of the areas. NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
Some of those sectors that you defined NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
into the if this is just my vision, NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
if it, NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
if we were going to focus on NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
the redevelopment in the infill, NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
that's going to be a critical NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
component to it. NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
So I think that data would be, NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
it's going to be pretty important NOTE Confidence: 0.92512798
to get it specific. NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
I think that's it for now. NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
But I appreciate the work NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
and I this is just the year. NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
So the next step is the visioning NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
and then afterwards we've had some NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
discussion with this on the board, NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
but I would I'm really interested NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
in a in a sort of our own hybrid NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
version of form based codes. NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
But you do have to do the NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
visioning for that first. NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
I understand that completely, NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
but but I would like to see that. NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
I know that you didn't put any, NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
I don't know if you could put that NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
timeline up, but there's no dates on that. NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
So I mean, NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
I'm I'm one that would you were going to ask. NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
OK, yeah, yeah, yeah. NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
Because I'd like to do it sooner than later. NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
I mean, I hear years of I hear like 2028. NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
That's just for me, NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
that's just way out there. NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
I don't know if I could be getting NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
that wrong or misinterpreting that. NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
But that is that's extremely important NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
for us now because I think some NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
of us had questions about the comp NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
plan and it is time to change it. NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
And then if we are going to NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
do form based codes, NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
it has to you have to base it off a vision. NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
So I know there's no dates. NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
That's pretty smart on your NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
part not to put them on there, NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
but that's not in our scope. NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
So yeah, yeah, exactly. That's true. NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
County's discretion. Yeah, OK. NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
Well, even even smarter. NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
So that's that's the big question NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
mark is how can we do this sooner NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
than later to to to get that done? NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
Because what were we the fat? NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
We're the fastest. NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
We had the highest, NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
fastest growth this past past year from NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
from growth of just new development. NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
So it's not it, NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
it it's the next year is probably going NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
to be the same way here in Lake County. NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
So I think the sooner that NOTE Confidence: 0.925215861666667
we address this the better. NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
Just a follow up on that question NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
about entitlements in relation to what NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
Stetson and the East the regional NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
planning agency are working on. NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
Are they not diving into that question and NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
actually trying to look in order to determine NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
feasibility for TDRS in Lake County? NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
I thought that would be something NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
that they would have to to do. NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
Yeah, I don't, I don't know. I know. NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
I just know that we asked for it at that NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
meeting and I think part of it was with NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
the joint planning agreement process. NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
Another question I had was, NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
I was going to bring it up in my comments, NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
but what is the status of the joint planning NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
agreements with some of these cities? NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
But I, I, I, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
it just seems like, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
that needs to be, you can't, NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
we, we can't make a decision or NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
formulate a policy about it unless NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
we know if it's feasible, right? NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
You can't figure out if it's feasible NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
if you don't really look at what NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
entitlements are out there and NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
how you might be able to actually NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
create some sort of a banking system NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
to move densities around. NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
I mean, I, I like the concept. NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
It's just, NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
I've always been skeptical that NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
it's that it's doable or practical, NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
but but I like the concept. NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
It is intriguing though, NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
that if you just looked at our NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
urban land uses and that's really NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
what you were looking at, NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
is the urban land uses in NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
the unincorporated area, NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
that we could actually keep up with NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
the projected population growth NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
just in the unincorporated area. NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
In the unincorporated area, yeah. NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
Which is crazy. NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
I mean, because, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
most of the growth should be NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
happening in the in the cities. NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
So I think this gives us a little NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
snapshot of some real opportunities NOTE Confidence: 0.8584433125
we have to work on things that NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
in coordination with the cities. NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
And again, that's going to NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
be the key in a lot of ways. NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
And I know you've been trying to NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
do that with the JP as I just, I, NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
I feel like if we're going to go in NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
the direction of maybe looking at form NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
based code or hybrid in the county, NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
then it's going to be critical NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
that we have that conversation NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
with the cities because that would NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
seem to make the most sense. NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
And like we actually target the areas NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
where growth makes the most sense and try NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
to shift it away from the places where we're, NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
we're trying to and the community is NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
wanting to see more of a rural feel. NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
And it doesn't mean that those properties NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
in those rural areas aren't going to be very, NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
very valuable people for people, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
without selling to a development company, NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
they become that much more desirable NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
if you're looking for that rural, NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
you know, character to live in. NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
So I think, you know, what happens NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
is a lot of times with the cities, NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
the developers come in and they basically NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
say, this is the only way you can do it. NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
This is the only way you can NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
make this development happen. NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
It's got to be this way. NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
And I think we have to keep NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
that discussion going that no, NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
that's not the only way. NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
It doesn't have to be, NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
especially in these fringe areas, NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
in the areas that you get outside of NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
the urban the the incorporated areas, NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
that doesn't have to be that way NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
that we have to go in that direction NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
because we've got enough inventory NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
if we stay inside the municipalities. NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
Yeah, I agree. NOTE Confidence: 0.8256324
Yeah, NOTE Confidence: 0.94726236875
OK. I just have a couple of questions. NOTE Confidence: 0.94726236875
According to your slides here, NOTE Confidence: 0.94726236875
we currently have 414,000 NOTE Confidence: 0.94726236875
people in Lake County. NOTE Confidence: 0.94726236875
The projection in 21 years is another NOTE Confidence: 0.94726236875
158,000 for a total population of 672,000. NOTE Confidence: 0.94726236875
Is that right? NOTE Confidence: 0.94726236875
I will go to the number slide rather NOTE Confidence: 0.94726236875
than working from memory here. Quick NOTE Confidence: 0.6361332
math, NOTE Confidence: 0.864578071428571
there's an earlier slide, NOTE Confidence: 0.864578071428571
I thought that well the bears meeting NOTE Confidence: 0.864578071428571
and projection report is 158,000. NOTE Confidence: 0.864578071428571
So that and you will see a NOTE Confidence: 0.864578071428571
difference of 11 place we have NOTE Confidence: 0.864578071428571
2045 and one place we have 2050. NOTE Confidence: 0.821469293529412
So that's the difference you see NOTE Confidence: 0.821469293529412
between the the later slide in NOTE Confidence: 0.821469293529412
this slide is five years, OK, NOTE Confidence: 0.821469293529412
because the state requirement NOTE Confidence: 0.821469293529412
is 2020 year horizon. NOTE Confidence: 0.821469293529412
All right, thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.821469293529412
And can you move to your last slide please? NOTE Confidence: 0.96002378
Are you telling me that the last NOTE Confidence: 0.96002378
three bullets on here where it NOTE Confidence: 0.96002378
says future is up to the county? NOTE Confidence: 0.96002378
Yes, Sir. Mr. Fitzgerald, NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
so we have been working on NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
this for at least three years. NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
You've been working on it for a NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
year and a half or or a year about. NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
Do you have an anticipated date NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
for the county visioning as we NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
enter the next fiscal year? NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
We've budgeted for the NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
comprehensive plan rewrite. NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
Under normal circumstances, NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
the visioning sessions are a part of NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
an evaluation and appraisal report. NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
Our evaluation appraisal report NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
is compressed right up against NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
our comprehensive plan rewrite. NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
So the visioning sessions are NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
going to take place as part of the NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
comprehensive plan rewrite will hold NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
host a multitude of of workshops for NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
the public and for commissioners. NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
We'll do that in each district and NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
we will get a handle on where the NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
citizens want to go in the next 20 NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
years and how this comp plan is written, NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
how our LDC code is written, NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
will it be form based code, NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
will it be some hybrid including NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
some Euclidian zoning. NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
So we we are right at the forefront NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
of that next bullet point and NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
that will be taking place very NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
shortly in this next fiscal year. NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
OK, thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
All right, any other questions? NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
OK, NOTE Confidence: 0.93021624
thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.951523512
Any questions from the audience, NOTE Confidence: 0.951523512
Anybody online? Nobody online. NOTE Confidence: 0.951523512
OK, moving on down to our NOTE Confidence: 0.951523512
next presentation, Allison. NOTE Confidence: 0.714011722
Good morning, commissioners. NOTE Confidence: 0.714011722
Allison Teslia, NOTE Confidence: 0.714011722
the Director of Management and Budget. NOTE Confidence: 0.714011722
We're here today to present NOTE Confidence: 0.714011722
the fire assessment study. NOTE Confidence: 0.714011722
Here's a quick little outline NOTE Confidence: 0.714011722
of the presentation and we'll go NOTE Confidence: 0.714011722
over the background and purpose, NOTE Confidence: 0.714011722
the technical study and then the next steps. NOTE Confidence: 0.940832584615385
As you know, the fire assessment NOTE Confidence: 0.940832584615385
is used to fund Fire Protection NOTE Confidence: 0.940832584615385
services such as fire suppression, NOTE Confidence: 0.940832584615385
prevention, building inspections and NOTE Confidence: 0.940832584615385
first response medical services, NOTE Confidence: 0.940832584615385
which are considered to be LS. NOTE Confidence: 0.940832584615385
It cannot fund advanced life support NOTE Confidence: 0.940832584615385
which is considered ALS services. NOTE Confidence: 0.940832584615385
We've performed this study annually for NOTE Confidence: 0.940832584615385
the last 20 plus years by a consultant. NOTE Confidence: 0.940832584615385
It examines the utilization of fire NOTE Confidence: 0.940832584615385
services and the land use categories NOTE Confidence: 0.940832584615385
and the assessment rates are calculated NOTE Confidence: 0.940832584615385
annually based on the allocation NOTE Confidence: 0.940832584615385
of resources and the assessable NOTE Confidence: 0.940832584615385
portion of the proposed budget. NOTE Confidence: 0.7668515
OK. This year, Benesh was tasked NOTE Confidence: 0.7668515
to provide the methodology options NOTE Confidence: 0.7668515
and update the assessment rates. NOTE Confidence: 0.934970981875
And we're here today to provide NOTE Confidence: 0.934970981875
the board with the results NOTE Confidence: 0.934970981875
of the fire assessment study. NOTE Confidence: 0.934970981875
And I'm going to turn it NOTE Confidence: 0.934970981875
over to Milgan from Bennish. NOTE Confidence: 0.65274213875
Good morning, commissioners. NOTE Confidence: 0.65274213875
I'm Megan Camp with Bennish. NOTE Confidence: 0.794408389090909
As you are. You know the calculation NOTE Confidence: 0.794408389090909
components include four items, NOTE Confidence: 0.794408389090909
the assessable budget, NOTE Confidence: 0.794408389090909
incident data, property units and NOTE Confidence: 0.794408389090909
finally the calculated rates. NOTE Confidence: 0.794408389090909
This year's assessment study NOTE Confidence: 0.794408389090909
included some changes to the NOTE Confidence: 0.794408389090909
methodology that the county NOTE Confidence: 0.794408389090909
has been using for a long time. NOTE Confidence: 0.794408389090909
So I'll go over them, NOTE Confidence: 0.794408389090909
but they are really affecting how NOTE Confidence: 0.794408389090909
we determine the ALS portion of the NOTE Confidence: 0.794408389090909
budget as well as how we distribute NOTE Confidence: 0.794408389090909
that budget among the land uses. NOTE Confidence: 0.794408389090909
So the current update includes NOTE Confidence: 0.794408389090909
incident data from the past 10 years, NOTE Confidence: 0.794408389090909
updated property units, NOTE Confidence: 0.794408389090909
and then starts with the requested NOTE Confidence: 0.794408389090909
budget for fiscal year 25, NOTE Confidence: 0.794408389090909
subtracts expenses related to ALS, NOTE Confidence: 0.794408389090909
Any dedicated revenues are NOTE Confidence: 0.794408389090909
subtracted and then the program NOTE Confidence: 0.794408389090909
related expenses are added. NOTE Confidence: 0.813911607857143
So historically, the Lake County's NOTE Confidence: 0.813911607857143
program determined the ALS NOTE Confidence: 0.813911607857143
budget based on incident data. NOTE Confidence: 0.813911607857143
So if for example, NOTE Confidence: 0.813911607857143
about 60% of or 40% of resources NOTE Confidence: 0.813911607857143
were being used by ALS related NOTE Confidence: 0.813911607857143
incidents that was subtracted. NOTE Confidence: 0.813911607857143
This study looked at actual NOTE Confidence: 0.813911607857143
costs related to ALS. NOTE Confidence: 0.813911607857143
So we basically asked the fire department NOTE Confidence: 0.813911607857143
if they stop providing ALS service, NOTE Confidence: 0.813911607857143
what would the savings be? NOTE Confidence: 0.813911607857143
They still need all the stations, NOTE Confidence: 0.813911607857143
they still need all the most of NOTE Confidence: 0.813911607857143
the equipment, most of the staff. NOTE Confidence: 0.813911607857143
So they provided that estimate. NOTE Confidence: 0.92967036
So then compared to the budget NOTE Confidence: 0.92967036
that's basis of the current rates, NOTE Confidence: 0.92967036
the requested budget is increasing about 30%, NOTE Confidence: 0.92967036
but assessable budget is increasing 90%. NOTE Confidence: 0.92967036
That's just because we are able to NOTE Confidence: 0.92967036
capture a larger portion of the budget NOTE Confidence: 0.92967036
under the assessable calculations NOTE Confidence: 0.92967036
like basically we are subtracting NOTE Confidence: 0.92967036
only the purely ALS related expenses NOTE Confidence: 0.91370306
and that in turn gives the county NOTE Confidence: 0.91370306
the ability to reduce the MSTU rates. NOTE Confidence: 0.91370306
So that's the change. NOTE Confidence: 0.91370306
And then resource allocation is NOTE Confidence: 0.91370306
basically looking at again the NOTE Confidence: 0.91370306
incidents over the past 10 years, NOTE Confidence: 0.91370306
number of incidents by residential land uses, NOTE Confidence: 0.91370306
how long those incidents were NOTE Confidence: 0.91370306
and how many vehicles and staff NOTE Confidence: 0.91370306
were used for each incident. NOTE Confidence: 0.91370306
So we are really looking at total NOTE Confidence: 0.91370306
resources needed for each incident. NOTE Confidence: 0.91370306
And you can see that the NOTE Confidence: 0.91370306
distribution is relatively stable. NOTE Confidence: 0.91370306
There's a increase in NOTE Confidence: 0.91370306
institutional from 10% to 11%, NOTE Confidence: 0.91370306
but that one percentage NOTE Confidence: 0.91370306
ends up being about 10%. NOTE Confidence: 0.897066026923077
And then the other thing I want to NOTE Confidence: 0.897066026923077
point out here is that's going to NOTE Confidence: 0.897066026923077
become more important later when we NOTE Confidence: 0.897066026923077
get into our revised distribution. NOTE Confidence: 0.897066026923077
Industrial warehouse is only .8%. NOTE Confidence: 0.897066026923077
As you can see, commercials about 5%, NOTE Confidence: 0.897066026923077
institutions about 11% of the resources. NOTE Confidence: 0.897066026923077
That's something to keep in mind. NOTE Confidence: 0.754170471111111
We then take the accessible budget and NOTE Confidence: 0.754170471111111
distribute them online users using those NOTE Confidence: 0.754170471111111
percentages as our starting point. NOTE Confidence: 0.754170471111111
And again, the total accessible NOTE Confidence: 0.754170471111111
budget increase about 90%. NOTE Confidence: 0.754170471111111
Anything different from that is NOTE Confidence: 0.754170471111111
because of the resource allocation NOTE Confidence: 0.754170471111111
changes in the resource allocation. NOTE Confidence: 0.851743090666667
Finally, we update the property units NOTE Confidence: 0.851743090666667
and again you can see there are some NOTE Confidence: 0.851743090666667
minor increases as a percentage and NOTE Confidence: 0.851743090666667
now some decrease in the case of NOTE Confidence: 0.851743090666667
vacant land as it gets developed. NOTE Confidence: 0.9265161965
So the residential, hotel, NOTE Confidence: 0.9265161965
motel and vacant land are determined NOTE Confidence: 0.9265161965
by basically taking the portion NOTE Confidence: 0.9265161965
of the budget assigned to those NOTE Confidence: 0.9265161965
land uses and dividing by units. NOTE Confidence: 0.9265161965
So residential would increase NOTE Confidence: 0.9265161965
from $225 per unit to 415, NOTE Confidence: 0.9265161965
hotel motel from 65 to 124 NOTE Confidence: 0.9265161965
and they can land 68 to 140. NOTE Confidence: 0.9265161965
And it's really mostly driven NOTE Confidence: 0.9265161965
by the budget increase. NOTE Confidence: 0.9265161965
These changes NOTE Confidence: 0.892190916666667
in the case of non residential, NOTE Confidence: 0.892190916666667
we use the two tier system and NOTE Confidence: 0.892190916666667
we wanted to recognize that NOTE Confidence: 0.892190916666667
even if a property doesn't use, NOTE Confidence: 0.857094867272727
doesn't use the fire department NOTE Confidence: 0.857094867272727
services that never makes a call, NOTE Confidence: 0.857094867272727
it still benefits from the availability NOTE Confidence: 0.857094867272727
of the fire department and that's NOTE Confidence: 0.857094867272727
through the insurance premiums, NOTE Confidence: 0.857094867272727
property values, availability NOTE Confidence: 0.857094867272727
of safety options and so forth. NOTE Confidence: 0.857094867272727
And so we allocated 70% of the NOTE Confidence: 0.857094867272727
budget equally among total all, NOTE Confidence: 0.857094867272727
all of the non residential square footage NOTE Confidence: 0.857094867272727
and 30% based on their actual use of it. NOTE Confidence: 0.857094867272727
And the 30 and 70 are determined NOTE Confidence: 0.857094867272727
based off industry research that NOTE Confidence: 0.857094867272727
says that any station that's active NOTE Confidence: 0.857094867272727
more than 30% of the time starts NOTE Confidence: 0.857094867272727
experiencing inefficiencies, fatigue, NOTE Confidence: 0.857094867272727
inability to address concurrent events, NOTE Confidence: 0.857094867272727
lack of training and so forth. NOTE Confidence: 0.857094867272727
And again when we say 30% of the time NOTE Confidence: 0.857094867272727
they're of course operating 24 hours a day. NOTE Confidence: 0.857094867272727
So, NOTE Confidence: 0.936150872
so we take the 70% of the budget, NOTE Confidence: 0.936150872
divide by the square footage. NOTE Confidence: 0.936150872
So that generates the charge of about NOTE Confidence: 0.936150872
$0.32 before each type of property NOTE Confidence: 0.936150872
and then distribute remaining budget NOTE Confidence: 0.936150872
based on their actual utilization NOTE Confidence: 0.936150872
and then add those two components NOTE Confidence: 0.936150872
to come up with the final rates. NOTE Confidence: 0.714774232
So here is like as you know your non NOTE Confidence: 0.714774232
residential schedule is tiered and NOTE Confidence: 0.714774232
this is just showing you some example NOTE Confidence: 0.714774232
tiers for 15,000 square foot facility. NOTE Confidence: 0.714774232
So commercial would increase from 3100 to NOTE Confidence: 0.714774232
5400 the son of per building charge and NOTE Confidence: 0.714774232
that's less than the budget increase of 90%. NOTE Confidence: 0.714774232
Industrial would increase about NOTE Confidence: 0.714774232
400 to 4000 and institutional would NOTE Confidence: 0.714774232
increase from 7900 to 8400. NOTE Confidence: 0.714774232
So basically what this methodology is doing, NOTE Confidence: 0.714774232
instead of using strictly utilization, NOTE Confidence: 0.714774232
where the industrial NOTE Confidence: 0.714774232
utilization was pretty small, NOTE Confidence: 0.714774232
but those properties were still NOTE Confidence: 0.714774232
benefiting from the availability NOTE Confidence: 0.714774232
of the fire department again NOTE Confidence: 0.714774232
through their insurance savings, NOTE Confidence: 0.714774232
property values and so forth. NOTE Confidence: 0.714774232
It's kind of creating a NOTE Confidence: 0.714774232
more balanced distribution. NOTE Confidence: 0.714774232
It's recognizing that benefit as well. NOTE Confidence: 0.714774232
So it's industrial is NOTE Confidence: 0.714774232
still the lowest category, NOTE Confidence: 0.714774232
but it's not as much lower NOTE Confidence: 0.714774232
under this methodology. NOTE Confidence: 0.803750844375
And this chart kind of shows all NOTE Confidence: 0.803750844375
the rates with the examples on NOTE Confidence: 0.803750844375
the non essential for comparison. NOTE Confidence: 0.8753586
And then I think Allison will take over that. NOTE Confidence: 0.73596321
And then as Milken noted before, NOTE Confidence: 0.73596321
we're proposing a decrease in the MSTU. NOTE Confidence: 0.73596321
The MSTU is what we used to fund the NOTE Confidence: 0.73596321
ALS services that are provided by the NOTE Confidence: 0.73596321
fire department and the portion that NOTE Confidence: 0.73596321
cannot be funded by the fire assessment. NOTE Confidence: 0.94034981
OK. And then the next steps NOTE Confidence: 0.934843827272727
today you're considering the NOTE Confidence: 0.934843827272727
interim fire assessment study NOTE Confidence: 0.934843827272727
that was presented in July. NOTE Confidence: 0.934843827272727
We will adopt the initial fire NOTE Confidence: 0.934843827272727
assessment resolution with NOTE Confidence: 0.934843827272727
the updated assessment rates. NOTE Confidence: 0.934843827272727
And then in September, NOTE Confidence: 0.934843827272727
we'll hold our public hearings. NOTE Confidence: 0.887299343529412
OK. So today's requested action NOTE Confidence: 0.887299343529412
is to accept the fire assessment NOTE Confidence: 0.887299343529412
study that was presented by Banesh. NOTE Confidence: 0.887299343529412
OK, Commissioners, NOTE Confidence: 0.85347901
this might be for future discussion, NOTE Confidence: 0.85347901
but do we have the the net if you? NOTE Confidence: 0.85347901
You know if you add both the rates NOTE Confidence: 0.85347901
together, what the impact would be, NOTE Confidence: 0.927090036
You're talking about the net NOTE Confidence: 0.927090036
tax impact on an individual. NOTE Confidence: 0.927090036
So if you looked at just one NOTE Confidence: 0.927090036
example of a property with NOTE Confidence: 0.927090036
about $150,000 assessable, NOTE Confidence: 0.927090036
which is typically our average NOTE Confidence: 0.927090036
countrywide or accessible value, NOTE Confidence: 0.927090036
it's about 185 to $190.00 increase net. NOTE Confidence: 0.927090036
So that would include a decrease NOTE Confidence: 0.927090036
in your MSTU and the increase NOTE Confidence: 0.927090036
in the fire assessment. NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
Any further questions? All right. NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
I think we have to have a NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
motion to accept the I just, NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
I did want to follow up though on the, NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
the, the shift and how we've done it NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
before versus how we're doing it now. NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
And just to, for mainly for NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
public to understand why we NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
would make a change like this. NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
And my understanding is that we've, NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
we've been doing it in a way that was, NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
it was acceptable, NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
but it wasn't like preferable from, NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
from the industry's standpoint, NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
because you're actually looking at what NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
it cost to run that fire station and NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
then how much of it is being used for NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
advanced life support services cost wise NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
versus what you've got to have there anyway. NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
24/7 because you've got to NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
be there no matter what. NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
24/7. NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
Yes, the county's program has NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
been established many years ago. NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
I I don't think the methodology NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
has been changed since then, NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
but we think that this way of approaching, NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
but the budget is more NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
realistic because again, NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
there's a sunk cost that it NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
has to be there no matter what. NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
And basically what they are doing is NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
using that to respond to ALS services, NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
but they don't need it. NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
I mean, NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
if they stop doing the ALS, NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
they are not going to be able to NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
get rid of 40% of the budget or NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
whatever the incident data shows. NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
So this feels to us a more accurate way NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
of measuring the portion of the ALS. NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
OK, Yeah. NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
I just wanted to make make NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
it clear that I mean, NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
this is, NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
this is a real shift in how it's NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
been done historically, NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
but from everything that I've NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
heard and read about this, NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
this is really the way that it should, NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
this is how it should be done. NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
If you're going to balance between NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
what you've got to have there no NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
matter what for Fire Rescue purposes NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
and for everybody's homeowners NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
insurance and Fire Protection, NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
we have to have those fire NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
stations and those fire assets, NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
fire prevention and, NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
the ability to to address structure NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
fires and safety and all of that. NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
We've got to have that no matter what. NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
We're running our LS out of those NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
locations in in concert with our NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
cities and in different models we use NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
for having our ambulances available. NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
But but this reflects what those NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
actual costs are to have those NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
stations there and have that manpower NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
there like like three men on a NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
truck and some of these other needs, NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
right. NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
Well, NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
I mean, NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
it all goes hand in hand with NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
whatever category you're putting NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
those particular services. NOTE Confidence: 0.941793346666667
And NOTE Confidence: 0.693700084166667
so and that and, and to add on to NOTE Confidence: 0.693700084166667
Commissioner Campion's comment, NOTE Confidence: 0.693700084166667
that is part of our public safety system NOTE Confidence: 0.693700084166667
is first responders, the firefighters NOTE Confidence: 0.693700084166667
are typically going to arrive 1st. NOTE Confidence: 0.693700084166667
And so the ALS services are important NOTE Confidence: 0.693700084166667
that we have those available NOTE Confidence: 0.693700084166667
on the on the big red trucks. NOTE Confidence: 0.693700084166667
However, those big red trucks are NOTE Confidence: 0.693700084166667
going to be there no matter what, NOTE Confidence: 0.693700084166667
even if they weren't providing the NOTE Confidence: 0.693700084166667
paramedic advanced life support services. NOTE Confidence: 0.693700084166667
So the cost don't go away if they're NOTE Confidence: 0.693700084166667
not providing those services. NOTE Confidence: 0.693700084166667
So they really need to be allocated NOTE Confidence: 0.693700084166667
to all land use categories. NOTE Confidence: 0.852922258333333
OK, I'm looking for a motion. NOTE Confidence: 0.742857718333333
I'll move to accept the study. NOTE Confidence: 0.742857718333333
I'll second. All right, NOTE Confidence: 0.742857718333333
we have a motion and a second. NOTE Confidence: 0.742857718333333
Any further discussion? NOTE Confidence: 0.742857718333333
I only have one thing. NOTE Confidence: 0.742857718333333
Did Vinci take into consideration NOTE Confidence: 0.742857718333333
to tier their amount? NOTE Confidence: 0.742857718333333
We're talking commercial, NOTE Confidence: 0.742857718333333
institutional and industrial now NOTE Confidence: 0.742857718333333
to tier their amount of money NOTE Confidence: 0.742857718333333
assessed by the fire assessment NOTE Confidence: 0.88764616375
for newer buildings because newer NOTE Confidence: 0.88764616375
buildings require different types of NOTE Confidence: 0.88764616375
fire suppression that makes them a NOTE Confidence: 0.88764616375
lot safer than the older building. NOTE Confidence: 0.88764616375
So is that taken into consideration? NOTE Confidence: 0.88764616375
So we are using their actual utilization. NOTE Confidence: 0.88764616375
So with those buildings that land NOTE Confidence: 0.88764616375
use is still calling X number. NOTE Confidence: 0.88764616375
So that's one thing. NOTE Confidence: 0.88764616375
The other thing is 80% or more of the NOTE Confidence: 0.88764616375
services health related medical calls, NOTE Confidence: 0.88764616375
it's not very many fire calls NOTE Confidence: 0.88764616375
that they are responding. NOTE Confidence: 0.88764616375
So a chief can give you the better numbers, NOTE Confidence: 0.88764616375
but for the most part like seventy, NOTE Confidence: 0.88764616375
8090% of fire department services are NOTE Confidence: 0.88764616375
basic life support, advanced life, NOTE Confidence: 0.88764616375
sports, just medical calls. NOTE Confidence: 0.88764616375
OK, we have a motion to 2nd NOTE Confidence: 0.88764616375
any further discussion. NOTE Confidence: 0.88764616375
All those in favor to approve the NOTE Confidence: 0.88764616375
presentation say aye, aye, opposed. NOTE Confidence: 0.88764616375
Motion carries 50. NOTE Confidence: 0.88764616375
All right, moving on down to Mr. NOTE Confidence: 0.88764616375
Fred Schneider. NOTE Confidence: 0.729409245
Morning Commissioners. NOTE Confidence: 0.729409245
Fred Schneider, Assistant County Manager. NOTE Confidence: 0.729409245
This is the Wellness way. NOTE Confidence: 0.729409245
MSTU study outlines give background purpose. NOTE Confidence: 0.729409245
The technical study will be provided NOTE Confidence: 0.729409245
by Negan Camp and then we'll discuss NOTE Confidence: 0.729409245
next steps which would be the NOTE Confidence: 0.729409245
recommended or desired assessment NOTE Confidence: 0.729409245
rate that would go on the trim NOTE Confidence: 0.729409245
notices for the Wellness Way MSTU. NOTE Confidence: 0.729409245
So a little background. In 2016, NOTE Confidence: 0.729409245
the Wellness Way area plan was adopted NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
2023. This is after the Wellness NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
Way design guidelines were adopted. NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
We went a little further to define NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
what the collector roads would look NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
like as far as design standards. NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
And so those are the four NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
main collector roads. NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
They're they're four lane roadways. NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
Schofield part is 2 lane right now. NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
It could be 4 lane in the future. NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
But what would those look like NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
as far as there's upscale and NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
enhancements on aesthetics, NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
landscaping and those kind of NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
things that go along with this, NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
which is above and beyond NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
our normal roadways. NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
So the Wellness way, NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
MSTU was established to help NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
fund the maintenance of those NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
enhanced areas of aesthetics. NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
And so then Banesh has been tasked to NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
calculate what those levels would be. NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
And they've projected out 20 years and NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
looking at over the number of years looking. NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
And she'll get into this NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
when developments come in, NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
when roads get, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
built and upgraded and those kind of things. NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
So the general area is in NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
southeast Lake County, NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
as you see on the left map. NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
And then on the on the right map, NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
what you see is the MSTU NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
area outlined in yellow, NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
but it Wellness way area itself NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
is a little bit larger than that NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
and you can see to the South and NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
the north and those colored areas. NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
And the reason the MSTU doesn't yet NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
reach those areas is if we had a MSTU today, NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
those folks would have to try out NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
quite a number of miles out of the NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
way to even get into the MSTU area. NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
So they're not, NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
they're not benefiting at this NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
point in time from any kind of NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
aesthetics or things that would NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
be in that put on those roads. NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
So that's why the board, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
adopted the Wellness way and NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
Stu as a little bit, NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
a little bit zoned a little NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
bit small than the, NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
the actual area plan. NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
And so the, NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
the purpose of this is again to provide NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
the board the results of the MSTU study. NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
And so I'm going to introduce NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
Negan camp with Banesh and she'll NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
she'll go over the study itself. NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
And then if the board would discuss NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
what the preferred rate would NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
go on the trim notice in August. NOTE Confidence: 0.909355595454545
So Negan, NOTE Confidence: 0.4611414875
Negan camp with Banish. NOTE Confidence: 0.91494217625
So the methodology to determine NOTE Confidence: 0.91494217625
the rates included starting NOTE Confidence: 0.91494217625
with the maintenance cost, NOTE Confidence: 0.91494217625
estimation of maintenance cost NOTE Confidence: 0.91494217625
and then estimating the timing NOTE Confidence: 0.91494217625
of upcoming developments by land NOTE Confidence: 0.91494217625
use and then the estimating tax NOTE Confidence: 0.91494217625
value and developing the rates. NOTE Confidence: 0.870162218571429
So the maintenance costs were estimated NOTE Confidence: 0.870162218571429
by the county and and these costs NOTE Confidence: 0.870162218571429
include things like the mowing, NOTE Confidence: 0.870162218571429
maintenance of sidewalks, curb, NOTE Confidence: 0.870162218571429
gutter, landscapes and so on. NOTE Confidence: 0.870162218571429
And they range anywhere from 850,000 NOTE Confidence: 0.870162218571429
in 2025 to all the way to two and a NOTE Confidence: 0.870162218571429
half million in 2040 and incorporates NOTE Confidence: 0.870162218571429
the three 3% inflation rate. NOTE Confidence: 0.79414019
Residential units have two components. NOTE Confidence: 0.79414019
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online and a total of almost 14,000 NOTE Confidence: 0.79414019
units are estimated to be built NOTE Confidence: 0.79414019
between 2025 and 2040 and that's NOTE Confidence: 0.79414019
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Housing prices were estimated at 470,000 for NOTE Confidence: 0.894875234
single family and 235,000 for multifamily. NOTE Confidence: 0.894875234
This information was provided by the ongoing NOTE Confidence: 0.894875234
development and then we also checked it NOTE Confidence: 0.894875234
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non homesteaded homes like how much NOTE Confidence: 0.894875234
they are increasing primarily. NOTE Confidence: 0.894875234
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family homes are in in Lake County NOTE Confidence: 0.894875234
right now are homesteaded and that NOTE Confidence: 0.894875234
that was assumed to be the case NOTE Confidence: 0.894875234
in the Wellness way area as well. NOTE Confidence: 0.894875234
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is homesteaded NOTE Confidence: 0.87572592
non residential right now. NOTE Confidence: 0.87572592
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implementation plans estimates NOTE Confidence: 0.87572592
and that would be about more NOTE Confidence: 0.87572592
than half of it is commercial, NOTE Confidence: 0.87572592
34% industrial and about 10% NOTE Confidence: 0.87572592
is institutional. Can NOTE Confidence: 0.524717323333333
I skip? OK. NOTE Confidence: 0.79334912
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about 54% of the existing tax base NOTE Confidence: 0.79334912
is vacant and over time the value NOTE Confidence: 0.79334912
of existing vacant would increase, NOTE Confidence: 0.79334912
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determining the portion of the tax base NOTE Confidence: 0.79334912
that will come from vacant property. NOTE Confidence: 0.868324444
And so we had that for this NOTE Confidence: 0.868324444
base scenario, three options. NOTE Confidence: 0.868324444
If the board wanted to keep NOTE Confidence: 0.868324444
the first five years fixed, NOTE Confidence: 0.868324444
what would it calculate if it's first NOTE Confidence: 0.868324444
ten years fixed and 15 year fixed? NOTE Confidence: 0.868324444
So if it's first five years, NOTE Confidence: 0.868324444
it will be about .9 mills. NOTE Confidence: 0.868324444
If it's 1010 years is .4 NOTE Confidence: 0.868324444
and then 15 years .25. NOTE Confidence: 0.868324444
Basically what would happen is early NOTE Confidence: 0.868324444
years would not generate enough revenues NOTE Confidence: 0.868324444
because there's not much tax base yet, NOTE Confidence: 0.868324444
but then the later years NOTE Confidence: 0.868324444
would make up for it. NOTE Confidence: 0.868324444
So meanwhile, NOTE Confidence: 0.868324444
general fund would land to this account. NOTE Confidence: 0.868324444
And again, all these, NOTE Confidence: 0.868324444
obviously this is crystal ball, NOTE Confidence: 0.868324444
all these projections should be NOTE Confidence: 0.868324444
evaluated every few years to see NOTE Confidence: 0.868324444
and if we have a great another Great NOTE Confidence: 0.868324444
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these will all change. NOTE Confidence: 0.868324444
But the study is based on what the NOTE Confidence: 0.868324444
trends we are seeing right now. NOTE Confidence: 0.868324444
If these continue, what would it be? NOTE Confidence: 0.868324444
And NOTE Confidence: 0.777196973333333
then we did 2 alternative scenarios, NOTE Confidence: 0.777196973333333
low growth just to show you some NOTE Confidence: 0.777196973333333
sensitivity how the rates are changing. NOTE Confidence: 0.777196973333333
Low growth is just assumes only 2/3 NOTE Confidence: 0.777196973333333
of these developments will take will NOTE Confidence: 0.777196973333333
come online during that time period. NOTE Confidence: 0.777196973333333
And then the high growth is NOTE Confidence: 0.777196973333333
they will be developed faster. NOTE Confidence: 0.777196973333333
So with that for with for example, NOTE Confidence: 0.777196973333333
the first five years instead of being .917, NOTE Confidence: 0.777196973333333
if it's, if there's low growth, NOTE Confidence: 0.777196973333333
it's .94 almost if it's a high growth is .8. NOTE Confidence: 0.777196973333333
So that's just how fast the NOTE Confidence: 0.777196973333333
tax base is growing to be able NOTE Confidence: 0.777196973333333
to pay for these improvements. NOTE Confidence: 0.789644082222222
Next steps, I'll turn it back over to Fred. NOTE Confidence: 0.771895346666667
So the next steps would be discussion NOTE Confidence: 0.771895346666667
July 9th at the budget workshop. NOTE Confidence: 0.771895346666667
July 15th maximum mileage rates NOTE Confidence: 0.771895346666667
submittal dot September budget NOTE Confidence: 0.771895346666667
mileage rates in September 24th NOTE Confidence: 0.771895346666667
adopt the final 2025 mileage rates. NOTE Confidence: 0.771895346666667
So that would be the the next steps. NOTE Confidence: 0.771895346666667
OK, Commissioners, NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
Commissioner parks, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
I had some questions. NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
So obviously I always like to NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
make this clear to this is it the NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
discussion is for that area that's NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
on the map for Wellness way only. NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
This is if you live in any NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
other part of Lake County. NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
This is not you at all, NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
but it's important because this NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
is this is put in place and NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
I appreciate the board doing NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
this because it it's it helps. NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
They will be paying for Wellness NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
way will be paying for these NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
improvements in the maintenance where NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
in lots of places typically it's NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
spread across the entire county. NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
So this is our growth paying NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
for itself discussion. NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
My question is, NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
is that if you go to slide 14 just NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
so I heard this correct that the NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
if you the lower you go with it, NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
the more I think you mentioned this NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
that it has to be lent or provided NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
by the current general fund. NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
So that if you go with that NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
lower mileage rate more is going NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
to have to come out early on. NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
So when when we if we didn't create NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
a fixed rate for any length of NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
time like the first year would NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
be 1.6 mill and then it would NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
go down as the tax base comes. NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
So what I was trying to say that NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
first five years if you adopted .9 NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
year one general fund would have to NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
land to this MSTU account to make NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
it whole and then maybe that will NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
pay back the general fund year five. NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
I see. OK. NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
But your recommendation is that last slide. NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
It's the base is that did I pick that up? NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
Base seems to be the to us right NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
now most likely scenario, Yes. NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
OK. NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
Can you go back to that slide that's 16? NOTE Confidence: 0.442548185
Is that NOTE Confidence: 0.874172156666667
so that's your that's your recommendation. NOTE Confidence: 0.874172156666667
The five year at 0.917 then. NOTE Confidence: 0.874172156666667
OK. All right. Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.874172156666667
Could you go back to the slide of NOTE Confidence: 0.874172156666667
the uses for the for the money? NOTE Confidence: 0.7073060625
Which one? Oh, you're back NOTE Confidence: 0.7073060625
at the beginning. I think NOTE Confidence: 0.757419748
that actually. Oh, the map. Yeah. NOTE Confidence: 0.757419748
There you go. Nope. Too far. NOTE Confidence: 0.757419748
You went, you didn't get it went too far. NOTE Confidence: 0.757419748
You want the uses, right? Yeah. NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
All right. So the, the, NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
so some of these are ongoing costs, right? NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
Some of it you're not NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
maintenance of sidewalks. NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
Hopefully you don't have to do that for, NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
I mean, you don't have to have to redo NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
the sidewalk hopefully for right, 15 years. NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
But it looks like a lot of the NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
other stuff is, you know, going to, NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
we're going to need the money to spend it. NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
We're going to need the money, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
sooner rather than later for a lot of it. NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
Because normally when I was NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
thinking about this, it's, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
in 20 years we got to go and repave and, NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
you know, do all these different things. NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
But it looks like there's just, NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
there's way more to it NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
than what I was thinking. NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
And we haven't included resurfacing in this NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
and it's not reserving is not in there. NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
It's not. Yeah. NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
And that's because there are external NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
traffic that passes through this area. NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
Uses these roads that are more NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
sort of a regional kind of road NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
and not just to the area. NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
So yeah, so a lot of this stuff is what NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
that like an HOA would normally do, right? NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
This this is enhanced. NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
So this is above and beyond what we typically NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
do in an unincorporated development. NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
And we we take the batwing mowers NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
out and we just cut everything down. NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
So this is actually beautiful landscaping, NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
you know, enhanced lighting, NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
things that you typically don't NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
see outside of a a city setting. NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
So that's what this funding would pay for. NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
But this is this is maintenance cost. NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
So there are there are some uses that NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
are that for capital though, correct? NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
It could be used for capital, NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
but primarily, yeah, NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
it it's part of the ordinance. NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
It could be used that way. NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
But for the most part, NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
for planning purposes, NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
it would be for the ongoing NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
maintenance because that's where NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
the major cost come in annually. NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
Yeah, NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
but but it won't happen anytime soon because NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
it's everything's going to be brand new. NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
But there could be a time where you NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
need money to redo something or a turn NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
lane or or some other capital improvement. NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
And the beauty of that is it allows, NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
it's some future Commission to be NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
able to do that without charging NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
everybody else in the county for it. NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
But you, you stress the maintenance cost, NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
which is important because that's a that's NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
a big part of when you build something. NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
It's not just building it, NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
it's maintaining it. NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
So, yeah, exactly. NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
And outer years, NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
you've got things that need repaired, NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
replaced, you know. NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
Right. NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
Yeah. NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
But I just I mean, NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
I know that you I to your question, NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
it's not that most of it is the NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
maintenance right now up front, NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
but it could include other capital costs, NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
right. NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
Do we have a rough idea of the NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
numbers that we if we did the NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
not the 15 year solid rate, NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
but you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.531712362
did it the other way NOTE Confidence: 0.83880633
we did the 15 years, NOTE Confidence: 0.83880633
how much money would we have to NOTE Confidence: 0.83880633
pull out of the general fund that NOTE Confidence: 0.83880633
that we wouldn't have otherwise? NOTE Confidence: 0.83880633
If we if we do that, NOTE Confidence: 0.83880633
the column on the right, right, NOTE Confidence: 0.83880633
you said we're going to have to borrow NOTE Confidence: 0.83880633
from the general fund versus on the left. NOTE Confidence: 0.83880633
How much would that be? NOTE Confidence: 0.83880633
So the first few years it starts NOTE Confidence: 0.83880633
the cost starts with 850,000 NOTE Confidence: 0.83880633
and it moves up to 1.2 million. NOTE Confidence: 0.83880633
I think first five years and right NOTE Confidence: 0.83880633
around there is stable and the 15 NOTE Confidence: 0.83880633
years would only almost generate almost NOTE Confidence: 0.83880633
like a third of the five years rate. NOTE Confidence: 0.83880633
So you would have to NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
and even the 15 year first few years NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
is not going to generate enough. NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
But basically you probably have to NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
contribute about if it's like a 851 NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
third of it 300 four 100,000 more NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
than what you would normally wanted NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
a rough idea on that. Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
But you're getting paid back, right? NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
Just OK, I'm I'm confused a little bit NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
about like these areas in Wellness way. NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
Could they still have a homeowners NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
association, property owners association, NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
that kind of thing. NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
They're still going to have fees that NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
they're potentially paying for the things NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
that are related to their plat, correct. NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
Those would be within NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
their subdivisions though. NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
These this is the roads, the road NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
system that's not in their subdivision. NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
So these are all these these are only NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
the roads that are outside of the right. NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
Yeah. Because normally. NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
In a typical scenario, NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
it would the HOA might handle the, NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
the sort of the nice stuff within the, NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
the neighborhood. NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
But yeah, NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
that's going to be totally they'll be, NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
they'll be separate to that. NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
Back to I guess Jennifer's analogy. NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
It's like along County Road 44A or you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
561. You just take the mowers NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
out there every so often. NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
You do, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
the basic litter pick up all that. NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
This is more of a manicured, NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
manicured type situation. NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
We're going to have contractors. NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
It is next to Disney. NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
So I guess the and, and again, NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
so that looks like Disney. NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
Everybody else in the county NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
doesn't pay for it, right? NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
Well, that's, NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
that's a really, NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
really important point to make. NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
But this is just strictly Wellness NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
way and this is a way to take care of NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
maintenance at an enhanced level so NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
that the only the property owners there NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
and businesses are are paying for it. NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
Yeah. NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
And it fits the vision of we know you're NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
trying to there's the I know the percentages, NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
the ratios are off Now that it is you NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
always start with a lot of the residential. NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
But but to to have that area planned, NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
there's a certain, NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
look that helps with the economic NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
development side as well. NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
That's how quickly would we get paid back, NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
though, NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
with the county get paid back from NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
putting money from the general fund, NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
loaning money from the general fund NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
is is have you looked at that? NOTE Confidence: 0.844414654285714
So if you NOTE Confidence: 0.749051534
adopt A five year schedule, NOTE Confidence: 0.749051534
it would be within that five year NOTE Confidence: 0.749051534
that that you would start to NOTE Confidence: 0.749051534
get the money back. Get it back. NOTE Confidence: 0.749051534
Yeah, I if there is AI don't know NOTE Confidence: 0.749051534
if you have the report in the NOTE Confidence: 0.890068242608696
nearby, but there's a chart that shows NOTE Confidence: 0.890068242608696
what it would be the mileage year by NOTE Confidence: 0.890068242608696
year if we didn't average it at all. NOTE Confidence: 0.890068242608696
So you can't see that this .9 NOTE Confidence: 0.890068242608696
is becoming higher than what NOTE Confidence: 0.890068242608696
it would be and around 2028. NOTE Confidence: 0.890068242608696
So first three years general NOTE Confidence: 0.890068242608696
fund is loaning and then NOTE Confidence: 0.716980633333333
the MSTU is paying back year four and five, NOTE Confidence: 0.716980633333333
for example on that example. NOTE Confidence: 0.716980633333333
And again, I mean, NOTE Confidence: 0.716980633333333
I think you said something now that NOTE Confidence: 0.716980633333333
seems reasonable and then visit, NOTE Confidence: 0.716980633333333
revisit that every 2-3 years kind NOTE Confidence: 0.716980633333333
of just see how everything is going. NOTE Confidence: 0.7512248875
OK, any further questions? All right, NOTE Confidence: 0.7512248875
thank you very much. Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.870056691428571
Did did you get a recommendation NOTE Confidence: 0.870056691428571
of which one you would prefer? NOTE Confidence: 0.870056691428571
You need a motion on that. NOTE Confidence: 0.870056691428571
We just need direction to bring NOTE Confidence: 0.870056691428571
back because this will be part NOTE Confidence: 0.870056691428571
of the approval of the mileage NOTE Confidence: 0.870056691428571
rates for the trim notice in July. NOTE Confidence: 0.870056691428571
So if the board has a province between NOTE Confidence: 0.870056691428571
the five year, 10 year, 15 year, NOTE Confidence: 0.870056691428571
I mean, I'm if you want a motion, NOTE Confidence: 0.870056691428571
I'll make a motion to go with NOTE Confidence: 0.870056691428571
the recommendation of the base, NOTE Confidence: 0.870056691428571
which you see on the screen here. NOTE Confidence: 0.870056691428571
Five year point, the five year scenario, NOTE Confidence: 0.870056691428571
five year scenario. NOTE Confidence: 0.816509840769231
Could I just ask, do we know what NOTE Confidence: 0.816509840769231
the property owner's preference is? NOTE Confidence: 0.816509840769231
Is there a second before discussion? Second. NOTE Confidence: 0.816509840769231
OK, now we can do we know if there's NOTE Confidence: 0.816509840769231
a property owner preference on that? NOTE Confidence: 0.816509840769231
Well, all the property owners NOTE Confidence: 0.816509840769231
from over a year ago when we, NOTE Confidence: 0.816509840769231
you know, brought this forward, NOTE Confidence: 0.816509840769231
we're all major, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.816509840769231
there's only they all supported it. NOTE Confidence: 0.816509840769231
I mean, of the options that you're, NOTE Confidence: 0.816509840769231
oh, oh, oh, OK. NOTE Confidence: 0.816509840769231
I, I don't know to be, I don't, NOTE Confidence: 0.816509840769231
I don't know if they've all been asked, but NOTE Confidence: 0.891732446666667
you know, we haven't had NOTE Confidence: 0.891732446666667
the Wellness way meetings. NOTE Confidence: 0.891732446666667
We've had, we have those monthly and NOTE Confidence: 0.891732446666667
the last two have been cancelled. NOTE Confidence: 0.891732446666667
But there'll be time, NOTE Confidence: 0.891732446666667
there'll be a July meeting. NOTE Confidence: 0.891732446666667
So we, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.891732446666667
I could certainly bring this up. NOTE Confidence: 0.891732446666667
And if there was some issue, NOTE Confidence: 0.891732446666667
they could always. Yeah. NOTE Confidence: 0.891732446666667
I was just curious since they're the NOTE Confidence: 0.891732446666667
ones that'll be, you know, affected. NOTE Confidence: 0.891732446666667
Yeah, there would be time. NOTE Confidence: 0.891732446666667
There'd be plenty of time between NOTE Confidence: 0.891732446666667
now and the the final vote on it. NOTE Confidence: 0.891732446666667
If you want, we can do that. NOTE Confidence: 0.959416257
And this is not a situation NOTE Confidence: 0.959416257
where you can't change. NOTE Confidence: 0.959416257
I mean, if you wait, NOTE Confidence: 0.959416257
it would it would follow the same NOTE Confidence: 0.959416257
process as every other mileage rate. NOTE Confidence: 0.959416257
So if you set the higher rate even in NOTE Confidence: 0.959416257
July for the trim notice in September, NOTE Confidence: 0.959416257
you can always lower it. NOTE Confidence: 0.959416257
So if you got more information from NOTE Confidence: 0.959416257
the land owners and you saw there NOTE Confidence: 0.959416257
was a preference to you know go NOTE Confidence: 0.959416257
a different route with the board, NOTE Confidence: 0.959416257
that's fine. NOTE Confidence: 0.959416257
We can always lower it. NOTE Confidence: 0.830058155
OK, we have a motion and a second. NOTE Confidence: 0.830058155
The recommendation to go with NOTE Confidence: 0.830058155
A5 year base rate of .917 under NOTE Confidence: 0.830058155
the technical study for the MST NOTE Confidence: 0.830058155
mileage rate for Wellness way. NOTE Confidence: 0.830058155
All those in favor say aye, aye. NOTE Confidence: 0.830058155
Opposed Motion carries 41. Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.88985521
OK. I'm almost scared to NOTE Confidence: 0.88985521
call this next person up. NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
Megan, don't come up. NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
Be kind to us. NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
This year, no hurricanes. NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
I apologize in advance. NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
Good morning, Megan Milanese, NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
director of the Lake County NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
Office of Emergency Management. NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
I am going to give you an update NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
on what we are expecting for NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
this hurricane season this year. NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
As a quick outline of what NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
we'll be presenting today. NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
It will be an overview of NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
hurricane terminology, NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
just a reminder of what we're talking about, NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
a review of our past hurricane seasons, NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
as well as a review of our upcoming NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
2024 hurricane season and an NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
overview and review of what we can NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
do to prepare for the season that NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
we're expecting to see this year. NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
So quickly, weather terminology. NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
First thing that a system might develop into, NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
depending on the wind speeds NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
that we see develop, NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
is a tropical depression, NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
and that is an organized weather NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
system with winds of 38 mph or less. NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
If it gets any stronger, NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
it will develop into a tropical storm, NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
which is when it will get its NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
name from 39 to 73 mph. NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
Hurricane is anything with NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
winds of 75 mph or higher. NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
And then we would consider a system NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
that reaches a category three or NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
higher to be a major hurricane and NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
that's something that has 100 to NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
11 mile per hour winds or higher. NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
So we break that into categories NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
once it reaches that hurricane level. NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
So category one is anything NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
between 74 to 95 mph, NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
Category two is 96 to 110. NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
And then again, NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
those major hurricane categories NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
that category 3 is that 111 to 129, NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
four is 1:30 to 1:56, NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
and then five would be 157 mph or higher. NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
So those are our major concerns NOTE Confidence: 0.7135888
that we're worried about. NOTE Confidence: 0.872949443333333
In terms of past hurricane seasons, NOTE Confidence: 0.872949443333333
the Lake County EOC has responded to seven NOTE Confidence: 0.872949443333333
different storms within the last eight years, NOTE Confidence: 0.872949443333333
and that includes going all the way NOTE Confidence: 0.872949443333333
back to Matthew in 2016, Irma and 17. NOTE Confidence: 0.872949443333333
And then of course, we had Ian and Nicole. NOTE Confidence: 0.872949443333333
We got 2 for one in 2022 NOTE Confidence: 0.872949443333333
and then Adalia last year. NOTE Confidence: 0.872949443333333
We were very fortunate and that we NOTE Confidence: 0.872949443333333
didn't really have a whole lot of NOTE Confidence: 0.872949443333333
major damage from Hurricane Adalia. NOTE Confidence: 0.872949443333333
And we'll talk a little bit about NOTE Confidence: 0.872949443333333
what that EOC response looked like NOTE Confidence: 0.872949443333333
in the next couple of slides as well. NOTE Confidence: 0.872949443333333
So last year's names, NOTE Confidence: 0.872949443333333
we had a list of 21 names and we went NOTE Confidence: 0.872949443333333
through 19 of them on this slide. NOTE Confidence: 0.872949443333333
You can see they're color-coded NOTE Confidence: 0.872949443333333
as to what developed into what. NOTE Confidence: 0.872949443333333
So we had quite a few storms develop, NOTE Confidence: 0.872949443333333
but we only saw one come our way. NOTE Confidence: 0.936418150714286
So the forecast that we expected NOTE Confidence: 0.936418150714286
last year was 12 to 17 named storms. NOTE Confidence: 0.936418150714286
We did end up seeing NOTE Confidence: 0.936418150714286
nineteen of those develop. NOTE Confidence: 0.936418150714286
In terms of hurricanes, NOTE Confidence: 0.936418150714286
we saw a forecast of five to nine expected. NOTE Confidence: 0.936418150714286
They were right in the middle with NOTE Confidence: 0.936418150714286
six and then major hurricanes. NOTE Confidence: 0.936418150714286
We were expecting one to four and NOTE Confidence: 0.936418150714286
three ended up developing last year NOTE Confidence: 0.841925822222222
for the services that we NOTE Confidence: 0.841925822222222
provided for Hurricane Adalia. NOTE Confidence: 0.841925822222222
When we got that unexpected visit, NOTE Confidence: 0.841925822222222
there were two shelters that we opened NOTE Confidence: 0.841925822222222
for a total of 179 total evacuees, NOTE Confidence: 0.841925822222222
not including pets. NOTE Confidence: 0.841925822222222
We did have 20 pets as well because NOTE Confidence: 0.841925822222222
we do have multiple pet friendly NOTE Confidence: 0.841925822222222
shelters throughout the county. NOTE Confidence: 0.841925822222222
We handled 187 calls to our NOTE Confidence: 0.841925822222222
citizens information line, NOTE Confidence: 0.841925822222222
the line that we activate to NOTE Confidence: 0.841925822222222
provide information to folks when NOTE Confidence: 0.841925822222222
we have any kind of emergency or NOTE Confidence: 0.841925822222222
incident going on in the community. NOTE Confidence: 0.841925822222222
And then we also in partnership NOTE Confidence: 0.841925822222222
with our other county offices of NOTE Confidence: 0.841925822222222
the distributed 16,055 sandbags. NOTE Confidence: 0.851648587
So here's where we get into this NOTE Confidence: 0.851648587
upcoming year's expectations. NOTE Confidence: 0.851648587
Take it easy on us. What was that? NOTE Confidence: 0.851648587
Take it easy on us. I'm so sorry. NOTE Confidence: 0.851648587
So these are the names going NOTE Confidence: 0.851648587
to start with the names. NOTE Confidence: 0.851648587
So we'll start easy with the names. NOTE Confidence: 0.851648587
So this is what we're expecting to see. NOTE Confidence: 0.851648587
I am going to quickly mention for NOTE Confidence: 0.851648587
no reason whatsoever that there NOTE Confidence: 0.851648587
is a secondary list of names NOTE Confidence: 0.851648587
that can be activated if we go NOTE Confidence: 0.851648587
through all 21 of the first list. NOTE Confidence: 0.851648587
And that list will be, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.851648587
put out once we get to that point. NOTE Confidence: 0.851648587
If we do, if we do watch NOTE Confidence: 0.851648587
that Hurricane Leslie there. NOTE Confidence: 0.892454845833333
So what we are expecting this NOTE Confidence: 0.892454845833333
season is an above normal season. NOTE Confidence: 0.892454845833333
We do look at two different predictions. NOTE Confidence: 0.892454845833333
We look at one from the NOTE Confidence: 0.892454845833333
Colorado State University. NOTE Confidence: 0.892454845833333
They are predicting to see 23 named storms, NOTE Confidence: 0.892454845833333
hence why I mentioned if we go NOTE Confidence: 0.892454845833333
through that first list of 21, NOTE Confidence: 0.892454845833333
there's a secondary list NOTE Confidence: 0.892454845833333
that will get activated. NOTE Confidence: 0.892454845833333
Of those 23 named storms, NOTE Confidence: 0.892454845833333
Colorado State is predicting that eleven NOTE Confidence: 0.892454845833333
of those will be hurricanes and then NOTE Confidence: 0.892454845833333
five of those will be major hurricanes. NOTE Confidence: 0.892454845833333
So that category three or above NOTE Confidence: 0.892454845833333
the National Hurricane Center NOTE Confidence: 0.892454845833333
releases a range of what they are NOTE Confidence: 0.892454845833333
expecting and they released an NOTE Confidence: 0.892454845833333
expectation of 17 to 25 named storms, NOTE Confidence: 0.892454845833333
8 to 13 hurricanes and four NOTE Confidence: 0.892454845833333
to seven major hurricanes. NOTE Confidence: 0.892454845833333
So this is the highest prediction NOTE Confidence: 0.892454845833333
that the National Hurricane NOTE Confidence: 0.892454845833333
Center has ever released. NOTE Confidence: 0.892454845833333
So again, I apologize, NOTE Confidence: 0.892454845833333
it's the National Hurricane Center. NOTE Confidence: 0.856393080555556
It is an 85% chance that we will NOTE Confidence: 0.856393080555556
see that above normal season and NOTE Confidence: 0.856393080555556
the forecasters are 70% confident NOTE Confidence: 0.856393080555556
in this prediction for this year. NOTE Confidence: 0.856393080555556
So that being said, NOTE Confidence: 0.856393080555556
we're going to talk about how to NOTE Confidence: 0.856393080555556
prepare for hurricane season. NOTE Confidence: 0.856393080555556
As the county, we do preparations year round, NOTE Confidence: 0.856393080555556
so we provide communication and NOTE Confidence: 0.856393080555556
coordination with stakeholders across NOTE Confidence: 0.856393080555556
the entire Lake County community. NOTE Confidence: 0.856393080555556
We provide educational opportunities NOTE Confidence: 0.856393080555556
for our residents as often as we can. NOTE Confidence: 0.856393080555556
We'd actually just did our hurricane NOTE Confidence: 0.856393080555556
Expo last month where residents were NOTE Confidence: 0.856393080555556
able to come out and see all our NOTE Confidence: 0.856393080555556
different partners and learn about NOTE Confidence: 0.856393080555556
how they can prepare for hurricanes. NOTE Confidence: 0.856393080555556
We just did our hurricane season kickoff NOTE Confidence: 0.856393080555556
meeting with all of our stakeholders NOTE Confidence: 0.856393080555556
to kind of set expectations for what NOTE Confidence: 0.856393080555556
we can see for this hurricane season. NOTE Confidence: 0.856393080555556
They've gotten these predictions NOTE Confidence: 0.856393080555556
and we're all aware of what NOTE Confidence: 0.856393080555556
the expectation is this year NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
for our residents. NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
The number one thing that I can tell NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
folks is to make a plan ahead of time. NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
Make sure that you know what you're NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
going to do if you're going to evacuate, NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
when you're going to evacuate, NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
and communicate that plan to NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
your loved ones, your friends. NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
Make sure that they know where you're NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
going and make sure that you're NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
planning for your entire family, NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
so that includes your pets and just NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
determine where you're going to take shelter. NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
If we are seeing a hurricane NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
affecting our community, NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
stay informed, get involved, NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
and we'll go over some NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
ways that you can do that. NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
But if you are planning on evacuating, NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
we do have a list of primary NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
shelters that we activate when we NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
see a storm threatening the county. NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
Not all of these may be activated at once. NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
We usually base that on conditions, NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
but these are the different NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
primary locations that we have. NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
The ones that are highlighted NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
are special needs. NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
So those are locations that will NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
accommodate folks who have dependency NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
on electricity for whatever reason NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
or they may need assistance NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
with activities of daily living. NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
And then any of the locations NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
that have an asterisk by their NOTE Confidence: 0.927688171
name are pet friendly as well. NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
So if folks are not going to be evacuating NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
to a shelter and they are going to NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
stay in their home during a storm, NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
the best thing they can do is identify NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
where their safe room is going to be. NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
So that's going to be that NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
innermost location within their NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
home that is far away from windows, NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
doors, those kinds of things. NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
Keep in mind that the home environment NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
may be very loud and frightening, NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
staying away from those doors and windows, NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
skylights, even if it's interesting NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
to watch the storm go by. NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
Open the refrigerator only when necessary and NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
stay informed with local news and weather. NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
One of the ways to do that is by NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
purchasing or receiving from our NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
office a NOAA Weather radio which NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
can be programmed to your area, NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
which will give you the updates NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
that you need. NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
If there's, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
a hurricane watch or warning coming through, NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
tornado watch and warning, NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
it will alert residents to those situations. NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
And it does have battery backup as well. NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
alertlake.com will allow residents NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
to sign up for our direct alerts NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
that go directly to their phones. NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
And then if folks want to speak to a NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
real human, if they have questions, NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
concerns, NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
anything while the situation is ongoing, NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
they can call our citizens NOTE Confidence: 0.922858340416667
information line at NOTE Confidence: 0.88753791826087
352-253-9999. And of course, NOTE Confidence: 0.88753791826087
paying attention to the local media NOTE Confidence: 0.88753791826087
outlets where we'll be working to get NOTE Confidence: 0.88753791826087
information out to residents as well. NOTE Confidence: 0.967441378333333
And then quickly after the hurricane, NOTE Confidence: 0.967441378333333
just, you know, folks need to just NOTE Confidence: 0.967441378333333
make sure they're being careful. NOTE Confidence: 0.967441378333333
Some of the injuries and, NOTE Confidence: 0.967441378333333
and worse that we've seen NOTE Confidence: 0.967441378333333
happen after the hurricane. NOTE Confidence: 0.967441378333333
So I just want to urge our residents to NOTE Confidence: 0.967441378333333
stay safe even after the storm has passed NOTE Confidence: 0.967441378333333
and stay informed of the latest information. NOTE Confidence: 0.967441378333333
Stay away from the down, loose, NOTE Confidence: 0.967441378333333
dangling power lines, floodwaters, NOTE Confidence: 0.967441378333333
anything like that. NOTE Confidence: 0.967441378333333
Take photos of the damages to your NOTE Confidence: 0.967441378333333
house and drive only when necessary. NOTE Confidence: 0.967441378333333
And the main thing is if you see a NOTE Confidence: 0.967441378333333
traffic light that's out treated NOTE Confidence: 0.967441378333333
as a four way stop because one of NOTE Confidence: 0.967441378333333
the major things that we see is NOTE Confidence: 0.967441378333333
traffic accidents after the storms. NOTE Confidence: 0.967441378333333
And that is all I have. NOTE Confidence: 0.967441378333333
So I can take any questions NOTE Confidence: 0.967441378333333
if there are any NOTE Confidence: 0.94439415
any questions. OK, well, NOTE Confidence: 0.94439415
I just know that with your leadership NOTE Confidence: 0.94439415
and your team's dedication that Lake NOTE Confidence: 0.94439415
County is going to be well prepared. NOTE Confidence: 0.94439415
Thank you so much. Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.69170733
OK, Allison, NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
good morning again. NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
For the record, Allison Teslia, NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
Director of the Office of Management Budget, NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
today I'm here to provide an NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
update for the fiscal year 2025 NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
proposed budget development. NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
Here's an outline of some of NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
the items we'll touch today. NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
We'll talk about where we NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
are in the budget process. NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
We'll talk about the estimated NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
property values. NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
We'll do an overview of the general fund, NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
an overview of the department NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
budget request from their workshops. NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
We'll talk about the constitutional NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
budgets and some of the NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
considerations in the next steps. NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
OK, so here's an overview of where NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
we are in the budget process. NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
In February, we had budget, NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
the budget strategies workshop and NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
then throughout the month of May, NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
the departments presented their budgets. NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
We received the preliminary taxable NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
values on June 1st and then today NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
we are going over the summary, NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
OK, here's the best estimate NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
property values as of June 1st. NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
The Avalorum revenues are based on the NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
best estimate property values provided, NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
which indicated a 14.8% NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
growth in property values. NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
That reflects about a 5.1 billion NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
increase and about half of NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
that was for new construction NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
which was about 2.4 billion. NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
And on July 1st, NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
we will receive the best or the NOTE Confidence: 0.9678419
the estimated taxable values. NOTE Confidence: 0.922722781
OK. So in the general fund NOTE Confidence: 0.922722781
that I'll be presenting, NOTE Confidence: 0.922722781
we're using the Avalorum revenues NOTE Confidence: 0.922722781
based on the property values NOTE Confidence: 0.922722781
that we received June 1st. NOTE Confidence: 0.922722781
We're using a status quo NOTE Confidence: 0.922722781
mileage rate of Five Point O364. NOTE Confidence: 0.922722781
It does not include the Lake NOTE Confidence: 0.922722781
County Water Authority updates. NOTE Confidence: 0.922722781
You'll be getting a presentation NOTE Confidence: 0.922722781
at the next meeting for the water NOTE Confidence: 0.922722781
authority and it does not include NOTE Confidence: 0.922722781
the tax collectors budget request. NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
OK, so here's a summary of the NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
general fund using the current NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
mileage rate of Five Point O364. NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
The Avalorum increase is based on the NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
the taxable values we were provided. NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
The sheriff's revenue is for the contracted NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
services that his office provides. NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
The fund balance for fiscal year 2025 NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
does not include the PO carry forward NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
amounts and reflects the fund reflects NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
funds available based on estimated NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
cost savings for the fiscal year 2024. NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
As for the expenditures, NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
we have the most control over the blue. NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
The blue lines, NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
the county departments and offices as a NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
whole increase by about 4.3 million and NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
it includes proposed wage adjustments and NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
increases for insurance contributions. NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
The CRA payments are estimates based NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
on the property values we received. NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
The judicial support reflects anticipated NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
increases for IT supplies and software, NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
utility costs and repairs and maintenance. NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
The medical examiner is an estimate NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
based on contracted increases and a NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
reallocation for the population estimates. NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
I'll be talking about the NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
constitutional budgets in a few sides. NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
The proposed budget fully funds NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
all of the requests. NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
It also includes an additional NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
$3,000,000 reserve for Rd. NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
resurfacing and with the the total, NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
the reserves will increase NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
to about 49.5 million, NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
which is about 20% of the NOTE Confidence: 0.859702311176471
general fund expenditures. NOTE Confidence: 0.811460371666667
OK, here's a recap of the request NOTE Confidence: 0.811460371666667
that were presented during the NOTE Confidence: 0.811460371666667
department's budget workshops. NOTE Confidence: 0.811460371666667
The majority of the departments NOTE Confidence: 0.811460371666667
are seeing increases related to NOTE Confidence: 0.811460371666667
the proposed wage adjustment, NOTE Confidence: 0.811460371666667
increases in insurance premiums, NOTE Confidence: 0.811460371666667
and anticipated increases NOTE Confidence: 0.811460371666667
for supplies, contracts, NOTE Confidence: 0.811460371666667
fuel costs and repairs and maintenance. NOTE Confidence: 0.811460371666667
Some of the major departmental NOTE Confidence: 0.811460371666667
items on the first one for HR NOTE Confidence: 0.811460371666667
and risk management reflects NOTE Confidence: 0.811460371666667
increases for the health insurance NOTE Confidence: 0.811460371666667
risk claims and related costs. NOTE Confidence: 0.811460371666667
For information technology, NOTE Confidence: 0.811460371666667
it reflects software cost increases NOTE Confidence: 0.811460371666667
and scheduled computer replacements. NOTE Confidence: 0.811460371666667
Parks and trails reflects increases NOTE Confidence: 0.811460371666667
in operating costs and includes NOTE Confidence: 0.811460371666667
the Lake Norris Conservation Area. NOTE Confidence: 0.811460371666667
Library Services reflects an additional NOTE Confidence: 0.811460371666667
$5000 per member library to increase NOTE Confidence: 0.811460371666667
the total appropriations to about NOTE Confidence: 0.811460371666667
$50,000 and it includes an estimated NOTE Confidence: 0.811460371666667
increase for state aid funding. NOTE Confidence: 0.811460371666667
Housing and Community services NOTE Confidence: 0.811460371666667
reflects available grant funding that NOTE Confidence: 0.811460371666667
is expected to be available for the NOTE Confidence: 0.811460371666667
next fiscal year and the facilities NOTE Confidence: 0.811460371666667
includes it reflects a decrease NOTE Confidence: 0.811460371666667
because we're expecting to complete NOTE Confidence: 0.811460371666667
capital projects in fiscal year 2024. NOTE Confidence: 0.8406114
OK Building Services includes the NOTE Confidence: 0.8406114
implementation for the software NOTE Confidence: 0.8406114
replacement project and additional NOTE Confidence: 0.8406114
contracted and professional services. NOTE Confidence: 0.8406114
Planning and Zoning reflects a restructuring NOTE Confidence: 0.8406114
of the department cost related to NOTE Confidence: 0.8406114
the Regional Planning Council study, NOTE Confidence: 0.8406114
the comp plan update and includes NOTE Confidence: 0.8406114
their share of cost related to NOTE Confidence: 0.8406114
the software replacement project. NOTE Confidence: 0.8406114
Fire Rescue and EMS includes NOTE Confidence: 0.8406114
anticipated wage adjustments, NOTE Confidence: 0.8406114
increases for FRS and insurance. NOTE Confidence: 0.8406114
There's two fire inspectors included NOTE Confidence: 0.8406114
in there and there's an increase NOTE Confidence: 0.8406114
for the EMS managed care program, NOTE Confidence: 0.8406114
and they also include additional training. NOTE Confidence: 0.8406114
Public safety support reflects a NOTE Confidence: 0.8406114
decrease for completed grant projects NOTE Confidence: 0.8406114
that are expected in fiscal year 2024. NOTE Confidence: 0.8406114
Transit reflects a decrease for NOTE Confidence: 0.8406114
grant funded capital that's expected NOTE Confidence: 0.8406114
to be completed in 2024. NOTE Confidence: 0.8406114
Solid waste reflects anticipated NOTE Confidence: 0.8406114
increases for their contracts, NOTE Confidence: 0.8406114
fleet repairs and fuel costs. NOTE Confidence: 0.8406114
And then engineering and road operations NOTE Confidence: 0.8406114
reflects a decrease for also the NOTE Confidence: 0.8406114
anticipated completion of projects in 2024. NOTE Confidence: 0.755362782
Here's the Constitutional budget request. NOTE Confidence: 0.755362782
The Clerk of Courts budget request NOTE Confidence: 0.755362782
includes increases for wage adjustments, NOTE Confidence: 0.755362782
insurance, and FRS rates. NOTE Confidence: 0.755362782
The Property Appraisers request NOTE Confidence: 0.755362782
also includes wage adjustments, NOTE Confidence: 0.755362782
insurance and FRS rates, NOTE Confidence: 0.755362782
but also includes new NOTE Confidence: 0.755362782
technology and software costs. NOTE Confidence: 0.755362782
The Supervisor of Elections request NOTE Confidence: 0.755362782
has an anticipated reduction related to NOTE Confidence: 0.755362782
the holding 2 less elections then they NOTE Confidence: 0.755362782
then will be held in fiscal year 2024. NOTE Confidence: 0.755362782
The sheriff's request includes NOTE Confidence: 0.755362782
sworn step plan and COLA increases, NOTE Confidence: 0.755362782
increases for insurance and FRS rates, NOTE Confidence: 0.755362782
additional personnel to accommodate growth, NOTE Confidence: 0.755362782
anticipated increases for the inmate NOTE Confidence: 0.755362782
medical contract and increases for NOTE Confidence: 0.755362782
fuel and other operating costs. NOTE Confidence: 0.755362782
And then as mentioned before, NOTE Confidence: 0.755362782
the tax collectors budget is NOTE Confidence: 0.755362782
not due until August 1st. NOTE Confidence: 0.755362782
So this is an approximation based NOTE Confidence: 0.755362782
on the increase in property values. NOTE Confidence: 0.81196535
OK, here's a breakdown of the NOTE Confidence: 0.81196535
most recent fire assessment study NOTE Confidence: 0.81196535
which was presented earlier today. NOTE Confidence: 0.81196535
The recommended the recommendation NOTE Confidence: 0.81196535
is an increase to the fire NOTE Confidence: 0.81196535
assessment based on the study, NOTE Confidence: 0.81196535
which will be offset by a NOTE Confidence: 0.81196535
reduction to the MSTU. NOTE Confidence: 0.9586259
Here's the proposed solid waste NOTE Confidence: 0.9586259
assessment rates, which reflect NOTE Confidence: 0.9586259
no change from the prior year. NOTE Confidence: 0.9586259
These rates are based on the service level. NOTE Confidence: 0.9586259
The rates on the left are one NOTE Confidence: 0.9586259
time a week pick up and then NOTE Confidence: 0.9586259
on the right are twice a week. NOTE Confidence: 0.937587094615384
OK, As you know, the voters approved NOTE Confidence: 0.937587094615384
an increase in the minimum wage. NOTE Confidence: 0.937587094615384
Currently it is $12.00 an hour and it'll NOTE Confidence: 0.937587094615384
go into effect to 13 on 930 of this year. NOTE Confidence: 0.937587094615384
It will increase $1.00 each year NOTE Confidence: 0.937587094615384
until it reaches $15.00 an hour. NOTE Confidence: 0.937587094615384
Currently the county wide minimum wage NOTE Confidence: 0.937587094615384
is $14.00 an hour and we're proposing NOTE Confidence: 0.937587094615384
to adjust the minimum wage to $15.00 NOTE Confidence: 0.937587094615384
an hour for all BCC employees plus NOTE Confidence: 0.937587094615384
any adjustments for compression. NOTE Confidence: 0.938109202727273
OK. And then here's the next steps NOTE Confidence: 0.938109202727273
in the budget process. In July, NOTE Confidence: 0.938109202727273
will receive the certified taxable values, NOTE Confidence: 0.938109202727273
will present the recommended budget. NOTE Confidence: 0.938109202727273
We'll set maximum mileage rates and NOTE Confidence: 0.938109202727273
adopt the assessment resolutions. NOTE Confidence: 0.938109202727273
In August, we'll receive NOTE Confidence: 0.938109202727273
the tax collectors budget. NOTE Confidence: 0.938109202727273
We'll hold our infrastructure sales tax NOTE Confidence: 0.938109202727273
budget workshops and public hearing. NOTE Confidence: 0.938109202727273
And then in September we will hold our NOTE Confidence: 0.938109202727273
public hearings to adopt the budget, NOTE Confidence: 0.938109202727273
mileage and assessment rates. NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
Answer any questions. NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
We have some OK, any questions. NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
Commissioner Parks, NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
could you go back to Slide 10, please? NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
A question and then a comment NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
just so I can confirm the county NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
support for constitutional officers, NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
that's in addition to what their request is, NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
that's some of the smaller constitutional NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
officer departments as well, right? NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
So that's actually funding that we NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
provide on behalf of the constitutional NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
officers out of the general fund directly. NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
So it could be things like utility, NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
it could be lease leases for NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
their they're off site facilities, NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
it could be insurance, what have you. NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
But that's an addition to the IT is NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
an addition to the transfer, correct. NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
And just again refresh my memory. NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
So there are some functions that NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
we basically have to provide, NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
we have to fund per state statute for NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
the constitutional officers, correct? NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
We have to provide facilities, we correct. NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
Yes. All right. NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
And there has there ever been any NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
discussion about what the state, NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
about the state stepping in and NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
providing more of that or is that NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
that maybe that's for a different day, NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
but I haven't heard of anything NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
being discussed, NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
but I could certainly look into it. NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
I don't know if they've NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
had those conversations. NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
I wouldn't hold my breath. NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
I know, NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
I know Commissioner Blake had brought NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
up at one point tearing or line iteming NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
each saying that the the public pays for. NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
I think you wanted to have each NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
constitutional officer down NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
there and then the general fund. NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
Is that right? Going to the state NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
legislature on your trim notice? NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
Yeah, yeah, yeah. NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
You're looking at me blank and I'm like, NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
you're right, you're right. NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
Yeah. OK. NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
Yeah. NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
To show, are we still working on that? NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
So it is my understanding that that we NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
cannot separate them out on the trim NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
notice unless it is a separate MSTU. NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
So I cannot break down the general NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
fund mileage by function so to speak. NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
Yeah. NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
And I so we couldn't, NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
we couldn't put something like this NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
in our trim notice so that the public NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
knows exactly where their money's going. NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
No, NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
that's why we try to provide the NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
documents like a dollar of your NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
taxes where that goes and as much as. NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
But we cannot put it in the trim notice. NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
Now could could we not ask the NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
property appraiser to have like NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
a little sublet flyer put in the NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
trim notice so people he might be NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
permitted by law specifically to do. NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
He could be I don't know the I NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
don't know the galleries. NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
I mean we all have seen it before. NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
Where inserts. The inserts. NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
Yeah, I can ask about an insert, right. NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
That's what I'm talking about at NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
least it's better than nothing. NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
Yeah, well, we had talked about an Ms. NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
to use as well, but that's right, NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
specifically the notice is a good right. NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
OK. All right. Thank you, Allison. NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
Oh, just real quick, sorry, hold on. NOTE Confidence: 0.782570311666667
So the the how much is was set NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
aside for the roads, NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
it's only three million, right. NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
So in the general fund it's 3 NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
million and then with the other NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
sources we're almost at 5 million. NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
But other sources, NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
what infrastructure sales tax. NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
Oh, gotcha. Yeah, All right. NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
What what percentage just of the NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
general fund budget that I'm just NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
trying to keep track of our what we NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
have talked about as policy that we NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
would spend out of general fund for risk. NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
So look it up. NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
I'm not 100%. NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
We don't have a policy. NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
We should be up at 4:00. NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
We do not have a policy and it's not 4%. NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
I know we're not at 4 percent, NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
4% of the total revenue. NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
So what is the total revenue for Avalorum? NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
Total revenue is two O 1, two O 1. NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
So 20,000 is 10%, five percent is 10,000. NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
So you're looking at about 8:00 or a million, NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
sorry, about 8,000,000 for 4%. NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
With that we would need for about 4%, NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
correct? Yeah. NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
And we're only at three and NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
we're only at three, right. NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
But we're doing other things. NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
We increase the impact fee, Rd. NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
impact fee. NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
I mean we've done some things NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
offset for resurfacing, NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
that is true. NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
But but everything that we do for NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
resurfacing can everything we save on NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
resurfacing can go toward building. NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
Yeah, I just, NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
I, NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
I agree with Commissioner Park so NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
that the there was a target that we NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
were working towards and I think that NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
we need to keep that at the forefront. NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
So we're currently at 19%. NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
We could take down the reserve to 17% NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
which I think has been an unspoken kind NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
of agreed upon percentage of general NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
fund if you would like to do that. NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
And that would provide an additional maybe NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
million and a half or so possibly two. NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
And then the next question is NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
if we had $30 million could, NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
could our could we even do that in a year? NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
Well, I mean that's that's NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
the question 3:00 to 4:00. NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
So it's not we're not even at that question. NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
I mean, if we, that would, NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
that would be a great problem to have, right? NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
So, and, and that's the thing, NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
it just, NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
it depends on the availability of NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
vendors to be able to spend the funding. NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
Some years we're able to spend it quickly, NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
some years we can't. NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
But I, I on that point, NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
though, I imagine I'm not a, NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
I'm not a road contractor, NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
but I imagine if you lock NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
down contracts with them, NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
they would do it. NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
And it may take, NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
it may stray into the next budget year. NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
But if you, NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
if we had the additional say we're up to 5 NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
million and you could lock down another Rd. NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
project with that, NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
that we can certainly lock it down. NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
Here's the balance we have to make. NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
When you lock it down and it NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
takes two years to complete, NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
that funding is unavailable for NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
other shovel ready projects. NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
So you may have two years NOTE Confidence: 0.778753493571429
of it sitting on NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
APO while we're in line with a vendor. NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
So you have to find that sweet spot NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
to make sure that you're not tying up NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
funding for two years that could be NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
used on other things because there's NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
a lot of needs within the county. NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
So that's what we're trying to determine. NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
Where's that? Where's that sweet spot? NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
You know, if we could come up NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
with 20 million a year, NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
but if we could only spend 5, NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
then you've got 15 locked up for a year or NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
two that could be used on other things. NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
Yeah. I just think that, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
there's some roads that are fours and NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
fives that with another year or so, NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
then the cost is triple to redo it a four. NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
Absolutely. NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
So and that's and that's why I say NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
we're trying to make sure that we have NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
as much available funding as we can NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
get done in one year without tying up NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
funding for other things over multiple years. NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
Well, NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
I think that would be a good problem to have. NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
Like you said, I would test it. NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
But yes, NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
the I only just ask that because the the NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
more that we can dedicate towards roads, NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
this is not a frivolous thing. NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
This is just taking the reserve, NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
taking the excess from the growth and putting NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
it towards what truly would make sense. NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
It's like #1 complaint we get NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
is about the road resurfacing. NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
So I think that we've got to try to NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
get back on that target and make NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
that our goal so that we can do a NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
better job of keeping up with it. NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
And I think that there's going to be NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
the public will be more receptive NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
to this question of whether you NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
roll back or not. NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
I mean, NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
if we're not rolling back mileage rate, NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
then what are what is the NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
public getting in return? NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
And keeping up with the roads is going to be, NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
I think a key part of that argument. NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
The other part of the argument will be NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
hearing from the sheriff about exactly NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
where this 16.9% increase will be going. NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
And I think we, I guess we will NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
get that presentation from him. NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
Yeah, NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
we got a meeting scheduled NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
for sometime this month. NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
You're you're going to meet with him. NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
Will you come in July then perhaps and NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
then I'll let you know after the meeting. NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
Yeah, NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
I think it's really important NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
for him and he usually does come NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
and goes over everything with us. NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
But I think it's really important for NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
us to be able to point particularly NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
to the things that would be he would NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
be able to address with this increase. NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
Because I people want to know because NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
if you're not going to roll back, NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
then what are you using the NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
additional funding for? NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
And you've got to be able to, NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
we've got to be able to provide details. NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
I think I agree. NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
And that's why that's how the Ms. NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
one of the reasons the MSTU NOTE Confidence: 0.931875116363636
conversation came up in NOTE Confidence: 0.8730476175
the Lake 100 requested that we NOTE Confidence: 0.8730476175
at least do a study on that was, NOTE Confidence: 0.8730476175
was to make sure there was NOTE Confidence: 0.8730476175
some transparency there and NOTE Confidence: 0.8730476175
that and that the political, NOTE Confidence: 0.88090194
say the political weight of that NOTE Confidence: 0.88090194
decision is properly attributed. All NOTE Confidence: 0.86990872
right, thank you. Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.8018866
OK. We're going to move on NOTE Confidence: 0.8018866
down to our public hearings. NOTE Confidence: 0.8018866
I'm at least going to get NOTE Confidence: 0.8018866
through Tab 17 because we've NOTE Confidence: 0.8018866
got people here for Tab 17, NOTE Confidence: 0.8018866
and we'll see how it goes from there. NOTE Confidence: 0.8018866
All right, this is a public hearing. NOTE Confidence: 0.8018866
You don't need to fill out a card to speak. NOTE Confidence: 0.8018866
You don't have to. NOTE Confidence: 0.804569101111111
But you do have to admit ex parte contact. NOTE Confidence: 0.804569101111111
Is there any ex parte contact on here? NOTE Confidence: 0.804569101111111
No, there's not. NOTE Confidence: 0.804569101111111
All right, so we'll move on down to Melanie. NOTE Confidence: 0.804569101111111
OK, so it'll be TAP 16 first. NOTE Confidence: 0.804569101111111
This is an ordinance to the Board of NOTE Confidence: 0.804569101111111
County Commissioners of Lake County, NOTE Confidence: 0.804569101111111
Florida, amending the following sections NOTE Confidence: 0.804569101111111
of Lake County Code Appendix C, NOTE Confidence: 0.804569101111111
Land Development Regulations, NOTE Confidence: 0.804569101111111
Chapter 2 entitled Definitions and NOTE Confidence: 0.804569101111111
section 3O1O3 entitled Schedule NOTE Confidence: 0.804569101111111
of Permitted and Conditional Uses, NOTE Confidence: 0.804569101111111
defining and permitting floating solar NOTE Confidence: 0.804569101111111
facilities and all zoning districts, NOTE Confidence: 0.804569101111111
providing for severability, NOTE Confidence: 0.804569101111111
providing for inclusion and code, NOTE Confidence: 0.804569101111111
providing for filing with Department of NOTE Confidence: 0.804569101111111
State and providing for an effective date. NOTE Confidence: 0.804569101111111
This is first hearing today, NOTE Confidence: 0.804569101111111
so we're looking for a vote for the NOTE Confidence: 0.804569101111111
board to move it to the second hearing, NOTE Confidence: 0.804569101111111
which will be on June 25th. NOTE Confidence: 0.804569101111111
And this is a change to our code that's NOTE Confidence: 0.804569101111111
required by a 2022 legislative bill. NOTE Confidence: 0.728030065
Motion to approve public NOTE Confidence: 0.817082796666667
hearing. Is there anybody in the NOTE Confidence: 0.817082796666667
audience that would like to speak? NOTE Confidence: 0.817082796666667
Anybody online? NOTE Confidence: 0.817082796666667
We have a motion for approval. NOTE Confidence: 0.817082796666667
We have a motion to 2nd. NOTE Confidence: 0.817082796666667
Any further discussion? NOTE Confidence: 0.817082796666667
All those in favor say aye, aye. NOTE Confidence: 0.817082796666667
Opposed. Motion carries 50. NOTE Confidence: 0.817082796666667
OK, moving on down to Tab 17. NOTE Confidence: 0.817082796666667
I do have speaker cards on this, NOTE Confidence: 0.817082796666667
so we'll let Melanie go first and NOTE Confidence: 0.817082796666667
then we'll bring it up to the public. NOTE Confidence: 0.817082796666667
This will be an ordinance to the Board NOTE Confidence: 0.817082796666667
of County Commissioners of Lake County, NOTE Confidence: 0.817082796666667
Florida, adopting a Second Amendment NOTE Confidence: 0.817082796666667
to the Interlocal Service Boundary NOTE Confidence: 0.817082796666667
Agreement between the City of Umatilla NOTE Confidence: 0.817082796666667
and Lake County dated April 5th, 2011. NOTE Confidence: 0.817082796666667
Providing for severability. NOTE Confidence: 0.817082796666667
Providing for effective date. NOTE Confidence: 0.817082796666667
Providing for filing with NOTE Confidence: 0.817082796666667
Department of State. NOTE Confidence: 0.817082796666667
If you choose to approve this today, NOTE Confidence: 0.817082796666667
it will come Ordinance 2024-15. NOTE Confidence: 0.905793494615385
OK. Is there any questions before I bring NOTE Confidence: 0.905793494615385
it open to the public? See you none. NOTE Confidence: 0.905793494615385
I'll have them. Chris Creech, NOTE Confidence: 0.957371842
Hello, good morning, NOTE Confidence: 0.957371842
almost afternoon. Thank you Mr. NOTE Confidence: 0.957371842
Chairman and other commissioners for NOTE Confidence: 0.957371842
bringing this ordinance in front of you guys. NOTE Confidence: 0.957371842
So I'm Chris Creech. NOTE Confidence: 0.957371842
I live in Lake County, NOTE Confidence: 0.957371842
41620 Silver Drive. NOTE Confidence: 0.957371842
It's my residence, my personal residence. NOTE Confidence: 0.957371842
This ordinance effects we're looking NOTE Confidence: 0.957371842
to expand the ISBA interlocal agreement NOTE Confidence: 0.957371842
between the county and and Umatilla. NOTE Confidence: 0.957371842
We believe it's a it's a logical move NOTE Confidence: 0.957371842
properties already served by even NOTE Confidence: 0.957371842
till in certain factors being water. NOTE Confidence: 0.957371842
And I'm here for any questions NOTE Confidence: 0.957371842
you guys might have, NOTE Confidence: 0.957371842
but looking for a a good favorable NOTE Confidence: 0.957371842
vote today from you guys and and if NOTE Confidence: 0.957371842
you guys have any questions about it. NOTE Confidence: 0.957371842
OK, thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.742665318
All right. Mr. Clifford Williamson, NOTE Confidence: 0.818917862
good morning, everyone. NOTE Confidence: 0.818917862
This is my first time to a meeting like this. NOTE Confidence: 0.818917862
I'll apologize if I get things wrong, NOTE Confidence: 0.818917862
but I'm a bit concerned about Mr. NOTE Confidence: 0.818917862
Creech's application for voluntary NOTE Confidence: 0.818917862
annexation of his property. NOTE Confidence: 0.818917862
Is it going to be a NOTE Confidence: 0.818917862
domicile residency or not? NOTE Confidence: 0.818917862
If it is and he's the mayor of Umatilla, NOTE Confidence: 0.818917862
he's leaving the city limits, NOTE Confidence: 0.818917862
but by this application is bringing NOTE Confidence: 0.818917862
the city limits to his property, NOTE Confidence: 0.818917862
including it. NOTE Confidence: 0.818917862
This makes me feel very uncomfortable NOTE Confidence: 0.818917862
of somebody in the position like NOTE Confidence: 0.818917862
this to apply for annexation to city NOTE Confidence: 0.818917862
limit when the mayor has to be in NOTE Confidence: 0.818917862
the city limits to keep his job. NOTE Confidence: 0.818917862
That's my understanding of it and it NOTE Confidence: 0.818917862
brings a few things of concern to do this. NOTE Confidence: 0.818917862
Is this going to set a precedence for NOTE Confidence: 0.818917862
anybody who wants to annex to the city? NOTE Confidence: 0.8380686325
They don't have to live in NOTE Confidence: 0.8380686325
the city. You just annex it. NOTE Confidence: 0.8380686325
I don't agree with that and NOTE Confidence: 0.80019389
I'm sorry. It's just that there's NOTE Confidence: 0.80019389
so many things going through. NOTE Confidence: 0.80019389
I only just learned about this recently so NOTE Confidence: 0.80019389
I've not had all the legal updates on it, NOTE Confidence: 0.80019389
but the fact that the the mayor has NOTE Confidence: 0.80019389
this underground business RCM and NOTE Confidence: 0.80019389
he's doing stuff around my city. NOTE Confidence: 0.80019389
In fact my street, I live at 85 Whitcomb Ave. NOTE Confidence: 0.80019389
I've lived there for 22 years in New Matilla. NOTE Confidence: 0.80019389
And how did this firm get the job? NOTE Confidence: 0.80019389
I believe they're doing this. NOTE Confidence: 0.80019389
What? I may be wrong but from what NOTE Confidence: 0.80019389
I've found out up to now, I'm not. NOTE Confidence: 0.80019389
So how is this applicable? NOTE Confidence: 0.80019389
Annexation into the city? NOTE Confidence: 0.80019389
The way this is perceived at the moment NOTE Confidence: 0.80019389
is wrong, and that's all I have to say. NOTE Confidence: 0.80019389
Any questions? NOTE Confidence: 0.80019389
Thank you. All right. NOTE Confidence: 0.80019389
Thank you, NOTE Confidence: 0.7889849625
Miss Barbara Johnson. Good NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
morning. It's been a long morning. NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
I am Barbara Johnson and I am from Muratella. NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
I live in Silver Beach Heights NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
and built a home there in 85. NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
It's a great place. It's in the county. NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
We bought it because we NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
wanted to be in a closed area. NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
We are in the county. NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
Lots of trees, very little traffic. NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
We I was a realtor in Yumatella for 32 years, NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
so I like Yumatella. NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
My husband born and raised in Yumatella. NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
We live where we live in Silver Beach NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
because we want to be in the county. NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
I was very impressed by the early part NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
of the meeting for the enthusiasm NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
for the ISBA that the other parts NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
of our county are enthralled with. NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
They are undeveloped properties. NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
Through the last few weeks and months we NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
have had discussions with our City Council. NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
They are wanting to make an NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
agreement with the county. NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
This is the city of Umatella that NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
they want to become part of ISBA. NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
So and I from this morning's I can see NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
how other areas would be very inclined NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
to enjoy this and benefit by it. NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
When that first came up, NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
the ISBA and we were instructed that NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
our city had talked to the county, NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
that that was the city's idea and it NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
was really good idea for our area. NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
Well, NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
we live on a lake and we're still in NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
the county. Now, if indeed we have Mr. NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
Creech, I wasn't going to say his name, NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
but he already started. NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
He has been in Yumatel, NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
the city of Yumatel, the mayor, NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
but he chose to move to our subdivision, NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
which we love. NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
It's a beautiful home he bought NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
and now he wants to be in the city. NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
Now you see, NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
we understand that when the city NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
is right next to us, NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
we can be absorbed if we agree. NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
But we aren't going to agree and we NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
don't think we deserve the burden NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
of being pressured into that. NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
Our subdivision is is developed out. NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
It's best for people that don't have NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
it developed out. We are there. NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
We are full. I, I thought you we were given. NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
I have worked on petitions for NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
weeks in our subdivision. NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
You were given those copies. NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
We do not want to be in the county. NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
I can see where it's good for other areas. NOTE Confidence: 0.880454498333333
We are developed out where we live. NOTE Confidence: 0.870948641666667
That's all I want to say. NOTE Confidence: 0.966722975
Thank you, Mr. Tom Rose. NOTE Confidence: 0.906067643571428
We were, we had some people from the NOTE Confidence: 0.906067643571428
Silver Beach community here last week NOTE Confidence: 0.906067643571428
presented you with a petition with the NOTE Confidence: 0.906067643571428
around 115 signatures of residents that NOTE Confidence: 0.906067643571428
are opposed to this annexation ispace NOTE Confidence: 0.906067643571428
or whatever it is and presented you NOTE Confidence: 0.906067643571428
with some detail of why we oppose it. NOTE Confidence: 0.906067643571428
So I'm not going to go any further into that. NOTE Confidence: 0.906067643571428
I'm going to kind of cut to the bottom line NOTE Confidence: 0.906067643571428
of what I think we're dealing with here. NOTE Confidence: 0.906067643571428
I don't think there's anything NOTE Confidence: 0.906067643571428
with this proposal that serves the NOTE Confidence: 0.906067643571428
citizens of Lake County, NOTE Confidence: 0.906067643571428
citizens of Umatilla or the residents NOTE Confidence: 0.906067643571428
of Silver Beach in any way whatsoever. NOTE Confidence: 0.906067643571428
I think all that this NOTE Confidence: 0.906067643571428
would accomplish if passed, NOTE Confidence: 0.906067643571428
it serves the self-interest of one individual NOTE Confidence: 0.948219203333333
and this is just plain wrong. NOTE Confidence: 0.948219203333333
So Commissioner Shields, Parks, NOTE Confidence: 0.948219203333333
Smith, Campion and Blake, do the NOTE Confidence: 0.948219203333333
right thing and vote No, Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.726651726666667
Thank you. All right. Jeffrey Preston. NOTE Confidence: 0.38120857
OK. NOTE Confidence: 0.76117310125
All right. It's all the cards I have. NOTE Confidence: 0.76117310125
Anybody else on in the audience NOTE Confidence: 0.76117310125
would like to speak. Anybody online? NOTE Confidence: 0.76117310125
OK. Bringing it back to the board, NOTE Confidence: 0.52032024875
I have questions, but I have a question. NOTE Confidence: 0.52032024875
You go ahead and start. NOTE Confidence: 0.52032024875
I have questions too. NOTE Confidence: 0.52032024875
My question is, again, NOTE Confidence: 0.52032024875
I'm just trying to understand this because NOTE Confidence: 0.52032024875
it seemed like a pretty simple request, NOTE Confidence: 0.52032024875
but somebody wants to voluntarily annex, NOTE Confidence: 0.52032024875
get annexed in and we have to change NOTE Confidence: 0.52032024875
the ISBA to allow that, right? NOTE Confidence: 0.52032024875
That's essentially what we're doing. NOTE Confidence: 0.52032024875
OK, yeah. NOTE Confidence: 0.52032024875
The the property is not contiguous to NOTE Confidence: 0.52032024875
the city limits and this particular NOTE Confidence: 0.52032024875
ISBA didn't give them blanket NOTE Confidence: 0.52032024875
authorization to do non contiguous. NOTE Confidence: 0.52032024875
So that's why they're here for an amendment. NOTE Confidence: 0.8336176315
I just want to make sure I understand NOTE Confidence: 0.8336176315
it's the first time I've had a NOTE Confidence: 0.8336176315
chance to ask these questions, NOTE Confidence: 0.8336176315
but it so is the purpose of NOTE Confidence: 0.8336176315
of this coming before us. NOTE Confidence: 0.8336176315
So can can I direct a question to NOTE Confidence: 0.8336176315
the the the folks who are here is the NOTE Confidence: 0.8336176315
person is the reason this is before NOTE Confidence: 0.8336176315
us so that you can remain mayor after NOTE Confidence: 0.8336176315
you've moved out of the city limits? NOTE Confidence: 0.92642995
Thank you. Commissioner Blake, NOTE Confidence: 0.92642995
I'll cut straight to the chase. NOTE Confidence: 0.92642995
And the answer that question is yes, NOTE Confidence: 0.92642995
I'm trying to do this the right way. NOTE Confidence: 0.92642995
I've lived in Umatilla my entire life. NOTE Confidence: 0.92642995
I serve the city of Umatilla, NOTE Confidence: 0.92642995
my constituents, NOTE Confidence: 0.92642995
the residents with my heart and soul NOTE Confidence: 0.92642995
trying to do this the proper way. NOTE Confidence: 0.92642995
Bought a piece of property, NOTE Confidence: 0.92642995
I knew it was annexable. NOTE Confidence: 0.92642995
The community had some concerns NOTE Confidence: 0.92642995
trying to address that, NOTE Confidence: 0.92642995
doing it with the ISBA and not NOTE Confidence: 0.92642995
shoving it through across the water NOTE Confidence: 0.92642995
body and things of that nature. NOTE Confidence: 0.92642995
So we thought this was the most logical path. NOTE Confidence: 0.92642995
Obviously there's some pushback on that, NOTE Confidence: 0.92642995
but for lack of a better term, I'm, NOTE Confidence: 0.92642995
I'm not a carpetbagger and I'm not NOTE Confidence: 0.92642995
going to go rent an apartment city NOTE Confidence: 0.92642995
in utility to keep my my mayorship. NOTE Confidence: 0.92642995
So trying to do it the correct way. NOTE Confidence: 0.92642995
So yes, Sir, thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.964225668
So if that's the case, NOTE Confidence: 0.964225668
of course, I love you, Matila. NOTE Confidence: 0.964225668
Love Scott seems like a nice guy. NOTE Confidence: 0.964225668
I, I, I don't feel comfortable NOTE Confidence: 0.964225668
using city time and county NOTE Confidence: 0.964225668
time and the legal process if NOTE Confidence: 0.964225668
you've chosen to leave the city. NOTE Confidence: 0.964225668
I totally understand that. NOTE Confidence: 0.964225668
And it's obviously it, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.964225668
it's a boundary that exists. NOTE Confidence: 0.964225668
I'm not comfortable doing this for NOTE Confidence: 0.964225668
political reasons that regardless NOTE Confidence: 0.964225668
of how much I might like an NOTE Confidence: 0.964225668
individual or or a municipality, NOTE Confidence: 0.964225668
I'm not comfortable using this NOTE Confidence: 0.964225668
process using county time, NOTE Confidence: 0.964225668
using city time just to allow NOTE Confidence: 0.964225668
someone to continue to be mayor. NOTE Confidence: 0.909422615
OK, well I'm of the same opinion NOTE Confidence: 0.909422615
we are tasked not to have. NOTE Confidence: 0.909422615
When we do annexation, we kind of look NOTE Confidence: 0.909422615
at trying not to create an enclave. NOTE Confidence: 0.909422615
This is certainly would be an enclave. NOTE Confidence: 0.949772854
And like you Commissioner Blake, NOTE Confidence: 0.949772854
you know the rules going into it. NOTE Confidence: 0.949772854
You know what's the expectations are. NOTE Confidence: 0.949772854
I'm sure Mr. NOTE Confidence: 0.949772854
Creech is a very dedicated, NOTE Confidence: 0.949772854
hard working guy for the NOTE Confidence: 0.949772854
citizens of Umatilla, NOTE Confidence: 0.949772854
but I am extremely uncomfortable with NOTE Confidence: 0.949772854
approving an annexation that's one NOTE Confidence: 0.949772854
property for one sole purpose only. NOTE Confidence: 0.943943606
And with that, how would NOTE Confidence: 0.943943606
the board like to move? NOTE Confidence: 0.943943606
I'll make the motion to deny approval. NOTE Confidence: 0.880972496
We have motion to deny. I'll pass the gavel NOTE Confidence: 0.6305132
2nd NOTE Confidence: 0.607692936
got a motion to 2nd. Any more discussion? NOTE Confidence: 0.607692936
Just a couple things I want to say NOTE Confidence: 0.607692936
because it's been kind of a hard NOTE Confidence: 0.607692936
situation knowing you've got one NOTE Confidence: 0.607692936
person on one hand that is asking to NOTE Confidence: 0.607692936
be annexed in into the city limits. NOTE Confidence: 0.607692936
And we get, we often times we NOTE Confidence: 0.607692936
have people coming before us, NOTE Confidence: 0.607692936
they're upset because of annexation NOTE Confidence: 0.607692936
is going to be like a big development. NOTE Confidence: 0.607692936
It's going to change the character of NOTE Confidence: 0.607692936
an unincorporated area by virtue of NOTE Confidence: 0.607692936
property next door being developed. NOTE Confidence: 0.607692936
You know, And so this is like NOTE Confidence: 0.607692936
really unique because you already NOTE Confidence: 0.607692936
have a house on the property. NOTE Confidence: 0.607692936
You have a, a neighborhood that's NOTE Confidence: 0.607692936
already completely built out. NOTE Confidence: 0.607692936
And it's just simply a request of NOTE Confidence: 0.607692936
a property owner saying I want NOTE Confidence: 0.607692936
to be inside the city limits. NOTE Confidence: 0.607692936
If you add on the part where I NOTE Confidence: 0.607692936
want to be on in the city limits NOTE Confidence: 0.607692936
because I want to serve as mayor, NOTE Confidence: 0.813636772857143
I can look at it both ways. NOTE Confidence: 0.813636772857143
I can look at it like, well, NOTE Confidence: 0.813636772857143
then you shouldn't move out NOTE Confidence: 0.813636772857143
side of the city limits. NOTE Confidence: 0.813636772857143
You should make sure that the NOTE Confidence: 0.813636772857143
annexation occurs and everything's NOTE Confidence: 0.813636772857143
in place before you make the move. NOTE Confidence: 0.813636772857143
Otherwise, it can be certainly looked at, NOTE Confidence: 0.813636772857143
I think the way that Commissioner NOTE Confidence: 0.813636772857143
Blake explained it and described it. NOTE Confidence: 0.813636772857143
And yet from a property rights standpoint, NOTE Confidence: 0.813636772857143
if somebody wants to make an application NOTE Confidence: 0.813636772857143
to annex and the city says yes, NOTE Confidence: 0.813636772857143
we're willing to annex you. NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
We've never gotten, NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
we've never intervened except in NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
those instances where it changed the NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
character of an area and we felt that we NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
were protecting unincorporated residents in, NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
in this particular situation, NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
the residents in Silver Beach Heights, NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
they this doesn't force them or NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
change their status. They don't, NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
they're not going to be forced to annex. NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
They can't be forced to annex unless there's NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
a referendum by the people in Silver NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
Beach Heights to want to want to annex. NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
So, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
just trying to call balls and strikes here. NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
And, and I get why on one NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
hand it looks questionable. NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
On the other hand, NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
it's like a property owner wants to annex. NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
What's it? It's but, but but in, NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
in, in the world of, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
equities and you're looking at appearances. NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
It it does create that sort of, NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
you know, sort of yucky feeling like, NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
well, if you're going to do this, get, NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
get all your ducks in a row first. NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
And I would say I, I, I'm like you. NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
I think there's, NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
you can look at it both ways and you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
as, as the, the mayor said, NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
who I, I know just happens to be a NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
very good mayor too, by the way. NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
But he's wanted to do it this way instead NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
of trying to go across some water body, NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
you know, to, NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
to get his annexation done that way, NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
which I guess he could still NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
do if we turned it down today. NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
But but I mean, NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
he was apparently trying to do it this NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
way to be on the up and up about it. NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
So, so I have a question though, NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
because I got the impression NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
that there was already hearing, NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
and maybe Scott can help us with this, NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
that there was already a first reading NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
on annexing and using the water body NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
to to jump over for the Florida Statutes. NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
Yes, ma'am. NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
Good afternoon. NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
I think commissioners, NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
if give me 30 seconds give you a quick story NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
on how this first started when, when Mr. NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
Creech was looking at house outside NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
the city limits for his family, NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
he came and talked to me. NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
He said, you know, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
if I move here, can I annex? NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
I said, yes. NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
I mean, across the we, NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
we think this with the statue, NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
with the water body, NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
you can still annex because it's NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
surrounded by this, by the city. NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
Matter of fact, NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
I think 25 homes in that area NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
right now can annex right now NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
because they're contiguous or, or, NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
you know, across the water body. NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
But I got a a meeting with one of NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
the residents who said I don't NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
like this because this is just NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
leading to forced annexation. NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
I said we will never force you to annex ever. NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
He said, put it in writing. NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
So I called my city attorney and said, Mr. NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
Stone, Attorney Stone, NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
will you put this in writing that NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
we will never forcefully annex NOTE Confidence: 0.865947271666667
anybody in Silver Beach Heights NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
because we don't really don't work like that. NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
We don't send a letter. NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
And you know, with that, that type of a deal, NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
because the best thing to do is NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
amend the ISBA and put that language NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
in there to protect them for any NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
forced annexation in the future. NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
So that's why we went down the NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
ISBA path originally. NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
You know, at first we weren't going to, NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
but I thought it was a logical answer for NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
him to say just put their concern in writing. NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
Everybody should be happy. NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
And it's changed a little bit now. NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
The thing since came through the county NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
went from the entire community of Silver NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
Beach Heights down to one resident. NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
So I'm not sure if I answered NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
your question on that. NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
So the reason we're here is the ISBA is NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
because we were kind of asked to do that, NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
try to give them some confidence that NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
we'll never force forcibly annex them. NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
But did you already have a a reading? NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
We, we already had the, NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
we already had the first meeting for NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
annexation the lake as the basis for yes, NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
ma'am, making it contiguous. NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
And so if we didn't approve this today, NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
I guess the second reading will move forward NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
based on the votes on the first meeting. NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
And so you would address annexing that? NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
Yes, ma'am. NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
But you know what, NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
we think that the, the, NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
the ISBA amendment is still a NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
logical process to go through. NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
We serve that entire area now NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
in a different point in time, NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
they would they would be in our NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
ISBA and with a, NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
probably 1/4 of the percent NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
of the of citizens live there NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
now are already contiguous. NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
But we have no intention NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
to forcibly annex anyone. NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
And we still like your support NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
with the ISBA and, you know, back, NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
you know, Commissioner Blake on NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
the the purpose of the annexation. NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
The mayor said this is primary objective. NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
It was that because that's what we've NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
been talking about for the last six months. NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
But really the reason is if NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
you want to annex, I mean, NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
I don't want to be flippant, NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
but what difference does it make? NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
The reason I want to, NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
maybe I want to run for office next time. NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
Maybe there's a whole lot of NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
reasons that I might want to annex. NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
But again, it's voluntary, NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
no force of the city for Mr. NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
Creech or anybody in that community. NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
Mr. NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
Chairman, NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
I just just wanted to say that I actually NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
agree with Commissioner Parks on this and I, NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
I appreciate you not renting a house. NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
I, it drives me nuts when people do that or, NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
live in a different county. NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
It happens. NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
And it's very unfortunate. NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
And if it were just kind of a blind request, NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
of course, NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
I probably wouldn't have an opinion on it. NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
But but the issue I'm having here is that NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
taxpayer resources are being expended, NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
have been expended for a political purpose. NOTE Confidence: 0.74481652875
He he moved away knowing that NOTE Confidence: 0.855367986666666
he was leaving the city. NOTE Confidence: 0.855367986666666
And I don't think that it's, NOTE Confidence: 0.855367986666666
it's everybody's job to kind of NOTE Confidence: 0.855367986666666
March in line to clean that up. NOTE Confidence: 0.83584206
I've got a a couple of question, NOTE Confidence: 0.83584206
who currently does your garbage NOTE Confidence: 0.83584206
service out there? GFL, Who is it? NOTE Confidence: 0.83584206
GFL does the garbage service NOTE Confidence: 0.83584206
for that subdivision. NOTE Confidence: 0.83584206
No, that'd be under under the county. NOTE Confidence: 0.83584206
I'm not sure who the yeah. NOTE Confidence: 0.83584206
So it's going to be FCC and and NOTE Confidence: 0.83584206
there's and there's so you're NOTE Confidence: 0.83584206
going to have one garbage can, NOTE Confidence: 0.83584206
maybe not for the city. Umatilla. NOTE Confidence: 0.83584206
Well, if you're in the city, NOTE Confidence: 0.83584206
they get city services. NOTE Confidence: 0.83584206
They get Umatilla police Umatilla fire water, NOTE Confidence: 0.83584206
which they are currently have and sewer. NOTE Confidence: 0.83584206
How far away is sewer? NOTE Confidence: 0.83584206
It's it's probably will not be NOTE Confidence: 0.83584206
out that way in many years. NOTE Confidence: 0.83584206
So, so really the the, the and it's, NOTE Confidence: 0.83584206
it's our duty not to create enclaves. NOTE Confidence: 0.83584206
And if this isn't an enclave, NOTE Confidence: 0.83584206
I don't know what is. NOTE Confidence: 0.83584206
I mean, NOTE Confidence: 0.83584206
you got one city parcel surrounded NOTE Confidence: 0.83584206
by a community of county residents NOTE Confidence: 0.83584206
using county services. NOTE Confidence: 0.83584206
I just, NOTE Confidence: 0.72167766
Mr. Chairman, may just make a NOTE Confidence: 0.72167766
comment that I had a conversation NOTE Confidence: 0.72167766
when we were meeting about this. NOTE Confidence: 0.72167766
Like throughout the city of Umatilla, NOTE Confidence: 0.72167766
it's an older city. NOTE Confidence: 0.72167766
We have county enclaves all in the city NOTE Confidence: 0.72167766
where they'll be 15 garbage, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.72167766
garbage picks up by the city and then the NOTE Confidence: 0.72167766
county will come drive all the way down, NOTE Confidence: 0.72167766
pick up one house and then, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.72167766
the next 10 gets picked up by the city again. NOTE Confidence: 0.72167766
But I think that's, that's the, NOTE Confidence: 0.72167766
the intent of the ISBA is to NOTE Confidence: 0.72167766
get more efficient services. NOTE Confidence: 0.72167766
So in this case, NOTE Confidence: 0.72167766
it might be more efficient NOTE Confidence: 0.72167766
and logical for the county to NOTE Confidence: 0.72167766
continue to pick up that garbage, NOTE Confidence: 0.72167766
as it might be logical for the city NOTE Confidence: 0.72167766
to pick up some garbage on enclaves NOTE Confidence: 0.72167766
that are inside the city now. NOTE Confidence: 0.72167766
I think that's part of that cooperation to NOTE Confidence: 0.72167766
work to reduce cost and get more efficient. NOTE Confidence: 0.72167766
I think, NOTE Confidence: 0.72167766
I think that this was more NOTE Confidence: 0.72167766
than just one parcel. NOTE Confidence: 0.72167766
I'd have a different opinion if this NOTE Confidence: 0.72167766
was like the whole neighborhood in agreement, NOTE Confidence: 0.72167766
but this is just one parcel for one NOTE Confidence: 0.72167766
subset for one reason and one reason only. NOTE Confidence: 0.72167766
And NOTE Confidence: 0.615305821111111
I'm absolutely I think is an NOTE Confidence: 0.615305821111111
important point though, again, NOTE Confidence: 0.615305821111111
is that the IS you went the ISBA NOTE Confidence: 0.615305821111111
route not only to be above board, NOTE Confidence: 0.615305821111111
but also because it actually protects NOTE Confidence: 0.615305821111111
it sounds like it's going to further NOTE Confidence: 0.615305821111111
protect something in writing. NOTE Confidence: 0.615305821111111
Yeah. So that that's a good, NOTE Confidence: 0.615305821111111
that's definitely good. Yeah. NOTE Confidence: 0.868827286
Any more questions for me? NOTE Confidence: 0.868827286
Any more board discussion? NOTE Confidence: 0.868827286
All right, so we have a motion and NOTE Confidence: 0.868827286
a second all those in favor say aye, NOTE Confidence: 0.868827286
aye, opposed, opposed NOTE Confidence: 0.7777368
motion fails. Right. Three. NOTE Confidence: 0.7777368
I I didn't get your vote. NOTE Confidence: 0.7777368
No, I thought you three NOTE Confidence: 0.7777368
voted for the motion to deny. NOTE Confidence: 0.7777368
Yes, I've, I have 3:00 to 2:00. NOTE Confidence: 0.7777368
So it denied for 3:00 to 2:00, Denied 32I NOTE Confidence: 0.765553015882353
think it was a little confusing NOTE Confidence: 0.765553015882353
because the motion was a negative NOTE Confidence: 0.765553015882353
as opposed to a positive. NOTE Confidence: 0.765553015882353
Yeah. OK, so the motion has NOTE Confidence: 0.765553015882353
been denied by the county. NOTE Confidence: 0.765553015882353
Moving on down to Tab 18. NOTE Confidence: 0.765553015882353
Melanie, we're going to see if NOTE Confidence: 0.765553015882353
we can't get through this now, NOTE Confidence: 0.765553015882353
maybe commissioners, NOTE Confidence: 0.765553015882353
you mind going another 2025 minutes NOTE Confidence: 0.765553015882353
to see if we can't get through NOTE Confidence: 0.765553015882353
this because I know we have Mr. NOTE Confidence: 0.765553015882353
Steve Smith waiting as well. NOTE Confidence: 0.765553015882353
Let's keep forging along if we can. NOTE Confidence: 0.765553015882353
OK, let's go. NOTE Confidence: 0.765553015882353
All right, NOTE Confidence: 0.765553015882353
this will be an ordinance to the Board NOTE Confidence: 0.765553015882353
of County Commissioners of Lake County, NOTE Confidence: 0.765553015882353
Florida, amending Chapter 2, NOTE Confidence: 0.765553015882353
Lake County Code Appendix C lane development NOTE Confidence: 0.765553015882353
regulations and title definitions NOTE Confidence: 0.765553015882353
regarding recreational vehicles, NOTE Confidence: 0.765553015882353
providing for severability, NOTE Confidence: 0.765553015882353
providing for inclusion the code, NOTE Confidence: 0.765553015882353
providing for filing with NOTE Confidence: 0.765553015882353
Department of State, NOTE Confidence: 0.765553015882353
and providing an effective date. NOTE Confidence: 0.765553015882353
If you choose to prove this today, NOTE Confidence: 0.765553015882353
become 2024-15. NOTE Confidence: 0.765553015882353
And this is to bring our code NOTE Confidence: 0.765553015882353
in line with Florida statute NOTE Confidence: 0.765553015882353
definitions for RV's. NOTE Confidence: 0.793758353333333
OK, this is a public hearing. NOTE Confidence: 0.793758353333333
Anybody in the audience want to NOTE Confidence: 0.793758353333333
speak on this issue? Seeing none. NOTE Confidence: 0.793758353333333
Anybody online seeing none, NOTE Confidence: 0.793758353333333
bring it back to the board NOTE Confidence: 0.697627620909091
new for approval. Second, NOTE Confidence: 0.697627620909091
we have a motion and a second. NOTE Confidence: 0.697627620909091
All those in favor say aye, aye. NOTE Confidence: 0.697627620909091
Opposed. Motion carries 50. All right, NOTE Confidence: 0.56303444
Tab 19. NOTE Confidence: 0.714922242857143
This will be an ordinance of the Board NOTE Confidence: 0.714922242857143
of County Commissioners of Lake County, NOTE Confidence: 0.714922242857143
Florida repealing Article 8, NOTE Confidence: 0.714922242857143
Chapter 13, Lake County Code entitled NOTE Confidence: 0.714922242857143
Bingo regulations providing for NOTE Confidence: 0.714922242857143
severability inclusion in the code, NOTE Confidence: 0.714922242857143
providing filing Department of State NOTE Confidence: 0.714922242857143
providing for an effective date. NOTE Confidence: 0.714922242857143
You choose to approve this today, NOTE Confidence: 0.714922242857143
become Ordinance 2024-16, NOTE Confidence: 0.714922242857143
and if the Board recalls, NOTE Confidence: 0.714922242857143
you had a unwritten policy that NOTE Confidence: 0.714922242857143
when you add a new regulation, NOTE Confidence: 0.714922242857143
you repeal an old regulation. NOTE Confidence: 0.714922242857143
So this is a repealer of bingo NOTE Confidence: 0.714922242857143
regulations which are governed by NOTE Confidence: 0.714922242857143
state law and it's tied to Tab 19, NOTE Confidence: 0.714922242857143
which will be imposing a new regulation. NOTE Confidence: 0.926355576666667
This is a public meeting NOTE Confidence: 0.926355576666667
or open to the public. NOTE Confidence: 0.926355576666667
Anybody in the room would NOTE Confidence: 0.926355576666667
like to speak on this issue. NOTE Confidence: 0.926355576666667
Anybody online seeing on them NOTE Confidence: 0.926355576666667
bringing it back to the board, I'd NOTE Confidence: 0.833702238
like the motion to approve. NOTE Confidence: 0.833702238
Second, we have motion to 2nd. NOTE Confidence: 0.833702238
Any further discussion? NOTE Confidence: 0.833702238
All those in favor say aye, aye. NOTE Confidence: 0.833702238
Opposed. Motion carries 50. NOTE Confidence: 0.833702238
Moving on down to Tab 20. All NOTE Confidence: 0.815718668
right. This will be an ordinance to the Board NOTE Confidence: 0.815718668
of County Commissioners of Lake County, NOTE Confidence: 0.815718668
Florida, amending Lake County Code NOTE Confidence: 0.815718668
Appendix E Lane Development Regulations NOTE Confidence: 0.815718668
subsection 9O4O2 entitled Planning, NOTE Confidence: 0.815718668
Design and Construction Requirements. NOTE Confidence: 0.815718668
Establishing the requirement that all NOTE Confidence: 0.815718668
gated communities have an approved NOTE Confidence: 0.815718668
emergency access gate opening NOTE Confidence: 0.815718668
system for public safety vehicles. NOTE Confidence: 0.815718668
Providing for severability inclusion the NOTE Confidence: 0.815718668
code, providing for filing Department of NOTE Confidence: 0.815718668
State and providing for an effective date. NOTE Confidence: 0.815718668
If you choose to approve this today, NOTE Confidence: 0.815718668
become Ordinance 2024-17. NOTE Confidence: 0.815718668
OK, this is a public hearing. NOTE Confidence: 0.815718668
Anybody in the audience would NOTE Confidence: 0.815718668
like to speak on this issue? NOTE Confidence: 0.815718668
Seeing none, anybody online seeing none, NOTE Confidence: 0.815718668
bringing it back to the board. NOTE Confidence: 0.815718668
Motion approve. NOTE Confidence: 0.815718668
Second, we have a motion and 2nd all NOTE Confidence: 0.815718668
those in favor say aye, aye, opposed. NOTE Confidence: 0.815718668
Motion carries 50. NOTE Confidence: 0.815718668
OK TAP is 21. NOTE Confidence: 0.7145301475
This will be an ordinance of Lake County, NOTE Confidence: 0.7145301475
Florida calling for a bond referendum NOTE Confidence: 0.7145301475
for the issuance of unlimited general NOTE Confidence: 0.7145301475
obligation bonds for the acquisition, NOTE Confidence: 0.7145301475
improvement of land for clean water NOTE Confidence: 0.7145301475
protection over development prevention, NOTE Confidence: 0.7145301475
natural area preservation, NOTE Confidence: 0.7145301475
the provision of parks and trails NOTE Confidence: 0.7145301475
and related support facilities. NOTE Confidence: 0.7145301475
Providing for ballot language. NOTE Confidence: 0.7145301475
Providing for notice of the election. NOTE Confidence: 0.7145301475
Providing for notification to the State NOTE Confidence: 0.7145301475
of Florida Department of Revenue creating NOTE Confidence: 0.7145301475
Division seven Chapter 2 Lake County NOTE Confidence: 0.7145301475
Code to be entitled Public Lands and NOTE Confidence: 0.7145301475
Trails Acquisition Advisory Committee. NOTE Confidence: 0.7145301475
Providing for severability. NOTE Confidence: 0.7145301475
Providing a conflict clause providing NOTE Confidence: 0.7145301475
for filing with Department of State NOTE Confidence: 0.7145301475
providing for an effective date. NOTE Confidence: 0.7145301475
If you choose to approve this NOTE Confidence: 0.7145301475
today it become 2024 dash 18. NOTE Confidence: 0.7145301475
All right, thank you very much Mr. NOTE Confidence: 0.7145301475
Marty Proctor NOTE Confidence: 0.668358976
Marty Proctor 18225 rose St. NOTE Confidence: 0.668358976
groveland, FL. I will be prompt. NOTE Confidence: 0.668358976
This is called a public NOTE Confidence: 0.668358976
lands acquisition program. NOTE Confidence: 0.772466030384615
I fully support the verbiage provided NOTE Confidence: 0.772466030384615
by the Land Trust for Public or Public NOTE Confidence: 0.772466030384615
or Trust for public Land and the NOTE Confidence: 0.772466030384615
cooperation with The Nature Conservancy. NOTE Confidence: 0.946792312
In this ordinance, NOTE Confidence: 0.946792312
you go through a process of defining NOTE Confidence: 0.946792312
and creating an advisory committee, NOTE Confidence: 0.946792312
very specific and then you guys ultimately NOTE Confidence: 0.946792312
appoint the people that meet those criteria. NOTE Confidence: 0.946792312
Then I it's my feeling, NOTE Confidence: 0.946792312
and it was the Audubon's feeling too, NOTE Confidence: 0.946792312
that you then basically hamstring. NOTE Confidence: 0.946792312
You're very specifically defined and NOTE Confidence: 0.946792312
very personally selected board by NOTE Confidence: 0.946792312
instructing them specifically how to and NOTE Confidence: 0.946792312
what to do with the land selections. NOTE Confidence: 0.946792312
I don't understand why it should be NOTE Confidence: 0.946792312
prescribed by the Parks and Trails NOTE Confidence: 0.946792312
Master plan Public lands acquisition. NOTE Confidence: 0.946792312
We discussed this at great length NOTE Confidence: 0.946792312
at the last meeting. NOTE Confidence: 0.946792312
It's not about parks and trails. NOTE Confidence: 0.946792312
It's about open space, NOTE Confidence: 0.946792312
water preservation. NOTE Confidence: 0.946792312
Yet in section 232 dot 31131 B NOTE Confidence: 0.946792312
very specifically says acquisition NOTE Confidence: 0.946792312
tasks prescribed by the parks NOTE Confidence: 0.946792312
and Trails management plan. NOTE Confidence: 0.946792312
Also then you create more interesting NOTE Confidence: 0.946792312
comments in section C of this, NOTE Confidence: 0.946792312
if you'll forgive me, NOTE Confidence: 0.946792312
I know you guys wrote this on purpose. NOTE Confidence: 0.946792312
The 5050 funding balance between natural NOTE Confidence: 0.946792312
and passive use for trails connectivity, NOTE Confidence: 0.946792312
it's NOTE Confidence: 0.909812692307692
going to be very difficult to take any NOTE Confidence: 0.909812692307692
specific project or land acquisition item NOTE Confidence: 0.909812692307692
and say this much of it is for trails NOTE Confidence: 0.909812692307692
or connectivity and this much of it is NOTE Confidence: 0.909812692307692
for open space and water preservation. NOTE Confidence: 0.909812692307692
I think it's going to, NOTE Confidence: 0.909812692307692
to try to generally achieve that. NOTE Confidence: 0.909812692307692
I, I really just don't understand. NOTE Confidence: 0.909812692307692
It's kind of vague and I would rather NOTE Confidence: 0.909812692307692
see this board that you're going to put NOTE Confidence: 0.909812692307692
together and very specifically select, NOTE Confidence: 0.909812692307692
be allowed to openly and create NOTE Confidence: 0.909812692307692
their own report card, NOTE Confidence: 0.909812692307692
use their own criterions, NOTE Confidence: 0.909812692307692
bring everything to you for NOTE Confidence: 0.909812692307692
your approval at the end. NOTE Confidence: 0.909812692307692
Let them do the job that you're defining NOTE Confidence: 0.909812692307692
for them and and also creating that NOTE Confidence: 0.909812692307692
committee specifically for them. NOTE Confidence: 0.909812692307692
Thank you. Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.909812692307692
All right, Miss Jane Hepting. NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
Good afternoon. My name is Jane Hepting NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
and I'm speaking on behalf of the NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
Lake County Conservation Council. NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
We're very pleased that this Commission NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
will be placing the public lands bond NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
referendum on the ballot this fall. NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
We suggest that none of the NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
funds be used for active parks, NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
and we also suggest that the advisory NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
committee not be required to split the NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
funds 5050 between natural passive use NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
lands and land use for trail connectivity. NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
Acquiring lands to complete the NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
wildlife corridor through Lake NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
County is an urgent matter. NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
Once the land is gone, it's gone forever. NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
Once the wildlife is gone, NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
it may be gone forever also. NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
So during the early years of the bond, NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
the committee may favor purchasing NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
conservation lands for good reason and NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
then focus more on land for trails. NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
Later. NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
Trail connectivity may occur NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
on the conservation land. NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
So just as Marty Proctor stated, NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
how do you kind of divide out NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
how much money is going to each? NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
And the funding needed for a particular NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
project will depend upon how much NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
money is available from other sources. NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
For these reasons, NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
we believe that the committee should NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
have the freedom to recommend NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
the best use of the funds. NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
I understand that the Aqua Valley NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
Audubon Society has also sent NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
you a letter expressing concerns NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
about the 5050 split. NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
The society correctly points out that NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
the ordinance list many allowable NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
uses for bond proceeds and nearly NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
all address ecosystem services. NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
The list includes protecting drinking water, NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
improving water quality of our rivers, NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
lakes and streams, NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
protecting open space, NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
providing connectivity between NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
habitat for wildlife, NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
and also preserving natural areas. NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
These are all really, NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
really important, NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
so we're asking that you let the NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
advisory committee have the leeway to NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
recommend the best use for the funds. NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
And thank you all for your NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
service to this county. NOTE Confidence: 0.922758121666667
All right, thank you, Miss Cindy Newton. NOTE Confidence: 0.87671018
Thank you again for the opportunity to speak. NOTE Confidence: 0.87671018
Cindy Newton, District 4. NOTE Confidence: 0.87671018
I agree with both of them, NOTE Confidence: 0.87671018
so I won't go over what they said. NOTE Confidence: 0.87671018
I am in support of the bond referendum. NOTE Confidence: 0.87671018
I did circulate the new language NOTE Confidence: 0.87671018
and it came back with a lot more NOTE Confidence: 0.87671018
opposition than the first language did. NOTE Confidence: 0.87671018
I think she should be aware of that. NOTE Confidence: 0.87671018
Generally the people are supporting more NOTE Confidence: 0.87671018
natural areas with fewer paved trails. NOTE Confidence: 0.87671018
They're in favor of the natural trails. NOTE Confidence: 0.87671018
Also very concerned about the 5050 split, NOTE Confidence: 0.87671018
which is actually being seen NOTE Confidence: 0.87671018
more as a 2520 five $0.50. NOTE Confidence: 0.87671018
The paths of the natural lands are NOTE Confidence: 0.87671018
on one side, trails on the other, NOTE Confidence: 0.87671018
and that was a big sticking NOTE Confidence: 0.87671018
point for most people on this. NOTE Confidence: 0.87671018
I just want to make sure this NOTE Confidence: 0.87671018
does get put on the ballot with a NOTE Confidence: 0.87671018
valid opportunity to be passed. NOTE Confidence: 0.87671018
And I see those as tripping points for a NOTE Confidence: 0.87671018
lot of the information I'm getting back. NOTE Confidence: 0.87671018
Thank you. Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.87671018
Mr. NOTE Confidence: 0.87671018
Greg Ginsmeyer NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
kind of feel like an outcast NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
sitting over on the one side, NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
but that was just because I was also NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
part of the the Ferndale issue again, NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
Greg Enseimer, unincorporated NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
lake and prior chairman of the NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
first line acquisition committee. NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
And I'm here talking about NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
the 5050 split too. NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
I'm I'm as much of an advocate for trails NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
as anybody else except for Mike Stevens. NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
I don't think anybody, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
equals his advocacy and and his work on NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
creating trails in our in our county. NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
I was originally concerned about that NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
5050 split just the same way that NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
everybody else was talking about. NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
But also I was concerned a little bit NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
because it's not just 50% of the land, NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
it's also include the improvements NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
and the cost of trails will NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
significantly eat up the paving the NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
trails of significant eat up the NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
amount of money that's available for, NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
for creating the trails. NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
But then when I actually read the ordinance, NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
I really like the idea of the NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
definition from Florida Greenways NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
and Trails because once and, NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
and if the committee is allowed to really NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
adhere to that definition of the trails, NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
it's not just paved trails. NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
And my advocacy for trails is probably NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
overwhelmed by my advocacy for NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
open spaces and also the advocacy NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
for trails for critters. NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
We have so many subdivisions in so NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
many ways that we've broken up the NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
the wild land so that our animals NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
can't move around, move around. NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
And I think if we stick with the Florida NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
Greenways and trails definition of trails, NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
we can automatically NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
include wildlife corridors. NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
We can also include blue way corridors. NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
So it's not just paved trails. NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
And I think that allows the advisory NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
committee to create the right NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
kind of scoring system so that you NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
can adequately compare a score to NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
a paved trail as you could to a NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
piece of land that's connecting, NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
you know, two different green spaces. NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
And one of the things too, when, NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
when the development that I see NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
around Sugarloaf and everywhere else, NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
one of the properties that we're NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
really losing very quickly is the NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
native land of the Lake Wales Ridge. NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
And so I, I think, NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
one of the things we really need NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
to do is is to, NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
to work on that and allowing the NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
advisory committee that ability to NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
create the scoring system to work on NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
all the properties is really good. NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
And then lastly, NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
whatever the advisory committee NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
suggests for properties, NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
you guys all have the idea to NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
either agree or disagree. NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
So you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
the scoring system I think is NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
primary and you still have the, NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
the authority to agree or disagree NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
with the property expenditures. NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
So I, I think this is a great idea. NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
I, NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
I loved being on that committee 20 years ago. NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
And actually I hope to be on the NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
committee again going forwards. NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
Thank you. All right, thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
Well, before I call you, NOTE Confidence: 0.888371615
I want to bring it to the phones, NOTE Confidence: 0.708656105
anybody online? Nobody online. So the NOTE Confidence: 0.708656105
last speaker I have is Mr. Will Avenger. NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
Thank you, Mr. Chair, NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
members of the Lake County Commission, NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
this is a great day in Lake NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
County in the state of Florida. NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
We strongly recommend approval. NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
The ordinance we have you NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
have before you today. NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
And I mainly just want to NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
thank you and thank your staff, NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
particularly Miss Miss Parker NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
and Miss Marsh for working NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
with the Trust Republic Land. NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
We started this back in October of NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
last year and just appreciate the NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
spirit of cooperation and we're NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
ready to get on to the campaign. NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
So thank you very much. NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
All right, thank you and thank you NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
for all your expertise and your help. NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
Commissioner Parks, NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
I was just going to say, NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
so I appreciate everybody coming out and NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
sticking with the long day so far today. NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
And it is, it is, I think will be a NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
big day for us assuming this moves forward. NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
I I will take responsibility NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
for putting in the 5050. NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
That was an amendment, NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
if you remember the 5050 split to put in NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
there and as well as the Greenway definition. NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
So I understand the concerns that NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
you're you're talking about. NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
I wanted to be clear, NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
just to reiterate, it was, NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
it's not the intent that it would NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
be used for construction of trails. NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
I totally agree. NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
One of the speaker. NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
Yeah, Greg, NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
you're going to run out of money NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
pretty quick because asphalt and NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
putting trails down is expensive. NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
It's the land, NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
it's a land acquisition referendum. NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
So it is the land that we're focused on here. NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
And it would, NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
it could include part of our trail system. NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
As you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
when we build trails, NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
there's kind of three phases. NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
There's APD and E and then there's NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
then there's the land acquisition NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
and then there's actual construction NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
of a trail that comes later on. NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
At some point. NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
This would facilitate, NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
could facilitate the the trail advocates NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
such as Greg and Mike Stevens for sure, NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
because it could include land NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
that would be used for a trail. NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
I just wanted to clarify that NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
that that that was not my intent. NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
I put that in there only because NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
I recognize the concerns about NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
none of it being used for trails. NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
And we did use it in trails NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
for trail for trail acquisition NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
from the 2004 referendum. NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
I think some people's concerns was, NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
is that we also bought properties NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
out in the middle of nowhere that NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
people potentially could never use. NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
But as just to recap the NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
discussion from 2 weeks ago, it, NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
it is the full intent. NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
I mean my full intent, NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
I think the board, but was too that NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
we're looking for the connectivity. NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
So lands that would connect lake with NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
with the serving all the ecological services, NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
but also for people too and NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
that would be the focus of it. NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
So I, I understand the concern. NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
I hear what you say. NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
I don't want to, NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
I would not want to do anything that NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
would jeopardize this getting on NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
the ballot because this is literally NOTE Confidence: 0.882037698
probably one of the last days that NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
we have to the opportunity that NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
we have to get it on the ballot. NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
So we we would not want to do something NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
that could jeopardize the beginning, NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
the language on the ballot. NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
I would hope today if we NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
need to change and pull out, NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
if we need to put a word in that says NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
that we will generally strive for 5050. NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
I mean, I'm OK with that or NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
I think it says that though. NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
Yeah, it does say that or or NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
we maybe we just add that it's NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
not construction of trail. NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
The intent is to not provide money. NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
We're having that discussion. NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
I think that makes it clear that the NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
idea being that it's the acquisition NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
of property and and the focus. NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
The reason I think it's important NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
to have that reference in the NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
ordinance to the distribution is to, NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
to show that it's a priority to NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
have connectivity to not just NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
buy standalone parcels only, NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
but to actually be looking at how NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
do we create a network across the NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
county where we connect people and we NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
connect places for critters to go. NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
So I think we achieve it with NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
this language and I, NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
I think we should stick with it. NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
I think it, NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
we've worked hard on it and I think, NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
you know, we, NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
we've been able to talk about it NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
enough that everybody understands NOTE Confidence: 0.921129876428571
what the intent is agreed. NOTE Confidence: 0.856671663333333
And, and again, I think if, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.856671663333333
if this needed to be tweaked in the future, NOTE Confidence: 0.856671663333333
it could be tweaked. So I, I mean, NOTE Confidence: 0.856671663333333
I, I recognize the concerns as well. NOTE Confidence: 0.956985885
You know, if it needs to be NOTE Confidence: 0.956985885
made more clear, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.956985885
we can certainly bring that up, NOTE Confidence: 0.956985885
but you're hearing it a lot of the NOTE Confidence: 0.956985885
advocates in the room or maybe NOTE Confidence: 0.956985885
some that have left or listening. NOTE Confidence: 0.956985885
That is, that is clearly the intent is, NOTE Confidence: 0.956985885
is the connectivity. NOTE Confidence: 0.956985885
It's not yes, again, NOTE Confidence: 0.956985885
it could include it would include NOTE Confidence: 0.956985885
lands that could be have a trail on it, NOTE Confidence: 0.956985885
but this is not to construct that trail. NOTE Confidence: 0.78978525875
OK, Commissioner Shields. NOTE Confidence: 0.78978525875
Well, the ballot language itself right. NOTE Confidence: 0.78978525875
You you feel will pass. NOTE Confidence: 0.78978525875
The ballot language is right where NOTE Confidence: 0.78978525875
it needs to be. OK, Thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.6983767
OK. NOTE Confidence: 0.680255134444445
Any further discussion? NOTE Confidence: 0.680255134444445
How do you like to move? NOTE Confidence: 0.680255134444445
I make a motion for approval. NOTE Confidence: 0.680255134444445
I'll 2nd. I have a motion to second. NOTE Confidence: 0.680255134444445
All those in favor say aye, NOTE Confidence: 0.680255134444445
aye opposed. Motion carries 50. NOTE Confidence: 0.680255134444445
Moving on down to Office of NOTE Confidence: 0.680255134444445
Housing Community Services. Maria, NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
good afternoon, Commissioners. NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
Carrie Christian, NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
Assistant County Manager The Office NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
of Housing and Community Services NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
is seeking approving approval for NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
the following approval of a local NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
government contribution in the amount NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
of $460,000 to Provident Housing NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
Solutions for the proposed development NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
of 81 affordable housing units for NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
seniors located at 13550 Hunt Trace Blvd. NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
Claremont. NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
Payment of which is contention upon NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
the developer receiving funding NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
through the Low Income Housing Tax NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
Credit Program offered through the NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
Florida Housing Finance Corporation. NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
Also, approval of funding NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
through the HUD Home Program, NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
providing that the project meets the NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
eligibility standards and then finally NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
authorizing the Chairman to execute NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
the Local Government Verification of NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
Contribution Loan form to be submitted NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
with the LIHTC program application. NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
So the funding of $460,000 NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
is fully funded by a grant. NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
Unfortunately, Mr. NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
Hank Dunn, Mr. NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
Steve Smith had to leave. NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
They had prior commitments, NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
but they wanted me to provide NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
a few speaking points for you. NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
Measure where I think it was about three NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
years ago they came to the board and NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
received approval to build about 70 units, NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
phase one for senior living, NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
that they are full, NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
completely full. NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
And right now they have 200 NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
seniors on waiting list. NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
So there's a great need and they just NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
wanted me to pass that information along. NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
OK, It's a public hearing. NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
Anybody in the audience NOTE Confidence: 0.7662461
want to speak on this? NOTE Confidence: 0.815748172857143
Yeah, I've got a card for Steve, NOTE Confidence: 0.815748172857143
but he he left right, NOTE Confidence: 0.815748172857143
So there's no card for him. NOTE Confidence: 0.815748172857143
Anybody online, NOTE Confidence: 0.815748172857143
anybody else in the audience NOTE Confidence: 0.815748172857143
would just speak on this issue. NOTE Confidence: 0.815748172857143
Bringing it back to the board, move NOTE Confidence: 0.787673643333333
for approval. Second, NOTE Confidence: 0.787673643333333
we have a motion to 2nd. NOTE Confidence: 0.787673643333333
Any further discussion? NOTE Confidence: 0.787673643333333
All those in favor say aye, aye. NOTE Confidence: 0.787673643333333
Opposed. Motion carries 50. NOTE Confidence: 0.787673643333333
Mr. Snyder. NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
Good afternoon. Fred Schneider. NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
This is a presentation on Internal NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
Subdivision Rd. Maintenance. NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
MSBU have a little bit of background NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
in the assessment discussion itself NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
and a recommendation. The background. NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
The Internal Subdivision, Rd. NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
Maintenance Municipal Services Benefit Unit, NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
or MSBU was adopted by the Lake NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
County Board of County Commissioners NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
on September 12th, 2023. NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
The purpose of the MSBU is to provide a NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
funding mechanism for the maintenance NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
of county maintained public roads NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
within newly approved subdivisions. NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
The MSBU will provide a good NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
state of repair for Rd. NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
surfacing, sidewalks, NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
curbs or motor systems, St. NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
trimming, St. NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
lighting, associated infrastructure. NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
For fiscal year 2025, NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
only one subdivision has been completed NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
and ready to add to the MSBU assessment. NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
Edgemont is located off Sawgrass Bay Blvd., NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
South of the City of Claremont. NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
The Edgemont PUD was approved by NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
the Board under Ordinance 2018, NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
Dash 56 on November 20th, NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
2018 and the plat of Edgemont NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
includes the acceptance of an NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
MSBU to be established for Rd. NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
maintenance so that specifically NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
mentioned on the plat. NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
The Edgemont subdivision is located NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
here off Sawgrass Bay Blvd. NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
92 plaited residential lots. NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
Typical lot size 50 by 110 the criteria NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
for calculation of the maintenance costs. NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
You know this is in general not NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
specific necessary to Edgemont NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
but length and width of Rd. NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
whether has curb and gutter NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
or swell drainage, NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
whether has sidewalks on one side, NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
both sides or none. NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
Whether it's got trees that are NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
planted that need to be trimmed, NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
stormwater drainage and other NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
infrastructure and that you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
as these go forward for NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
next year as any are added, NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
then those are the things that are looked at. NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
And each subdivision will be unique as far NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
as what the estimate is to maintain it. NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
You know, NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
lower lot density, NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
the number you know per lot will NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
be less than higher and whether NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
it's got higher lot density will NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
be more dependent on curbs and NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
sidewalks and those kind of things. NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
So this is what we looked at for Edgemont. NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
So what we want to what we want to NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
do with this new program with MSB US NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
is sort of is look at maintaining NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
the roadway pavement during its NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
lifetime and not just every 20 or NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
25 years waiting to it's in a really NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
bad condition and then looking for overlay. NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
So this is a pavement management NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
system and it's the first one NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
step that we're going into as we NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
go forward with this. NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
And and so, NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
So what we do is the first years of NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
three or six you pavements get, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
it's hot, it's a little brittle. NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
You put a pavement rejuvenator rejuvenator NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
on there and that keeps it from cracking, NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
you know, keeps it sealed years 10 to 14, NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
perhaps a fog seal, NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
which is a little bit more. NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
And between 15 and 20, NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
the Cape seal, NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
which is a not quite a full resurfacing, NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
but it but it adds a surface to it. NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
And then of course we want NOTE Confidence: 0.678832474285714
to re evaluate these NOTE Confidence: 0.749481584285714
on an annual basis. NOTE Confidence: 0.749481584285714
We looked at long term estimates, NOTE Confidence: 0.749481584285714
so assessment for years 1 to 20. NOTE Confidence: 0.749481584285714
So this doesn't take into account inflation NOTE Confidence: 0.749481584285714
or the the cost of improvements out 20 years. NOTE Confidence: 0.749481584285714
It's just based on current value of a dollar. NOTE Confidence: 0.749481584285714
So if this is the total assessment NOTE Confidence: 0.749481584285714
per lot that would just carry through. NOTE Confidence: 0.749481584285714
Of course you know we we have to keep an NOTE Confidence: 0.749481584285714
eye on those and look at them every year, NOTE Confidence: 0.749481584285714
every couple years and NOTE Confidence: 0.749481584285714
make sure we're on track. NOTE Confidence: 0.749481584285714
So that's where we are with that. NOTE Confidence: 0.749481584285714
So our recommendation then is NOTE Confidence: 0.749481584285714
approve the Edgemont MSB assessment NOTE Confidence: 0.749481584285714
at the annual rate of $230.72 and NOTE Confidence: 0.902127214615385
that corresponds to a consistent NOTE Confidence: 0.902127214615385
annual fee over a 20 year time frame. NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
OK. This is the public hearing. NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
Your body in the public want NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
to speak on this issue. NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
Anybody online seeing none NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
bringing it back to the board, NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
motion to approve. NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
Second, we have a motion to 2nd. NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
Any further discussion? NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
I just want to point out two, NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
this is the MSBU because it's in a NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
neighborhood and the other was the MSTU NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
outside outside of the neighborhood. NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
So this is like our first in Wellness way. NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
So I guess we'll be seeing South of NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
Wellness way or South of Wellness way NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
just S but have we have we had any NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
other neighborhoods come in under NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
to do this in new subdivision plats? NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
We have, I have a lit, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
we've, we started keeping track of NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
this about two years ago when the NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
board discussion was, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
putting this on the plats and making NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
a requirement of PUD approvals. NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
And I have of that list that NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
we've gone through, NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
we've got about 20 of them. NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
Some have been annexed into cities, NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
some were private roads, NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
some were say 5 lots and NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
existing County Road. NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
And a number of them were say phase three NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
or four of a multi phase subdivision. NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
So we didn't bring those forward NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
because it didn't seem we would want to NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
recommend only phase three and four. NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
Phase one and two aren't in the MSBU. NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
Kind of strange have only half NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
your subdivision in it. NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
So this was the first one that fully came NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
forward as a single phase subdivision. NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
But we are keeping track of others as NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
they come through and we don't we don't NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
get a lot of there's a lot of the, NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
a lot of the development is NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
occurring within the city limits. NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
So these are just unincorporated areas. NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
Now, NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
if it were an axed and we NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
had to establish it, NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
does it get absorbed into the NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
city mileage or does it stay? NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
So the only way we could continue NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
to levy the MSBU if it gets annexed NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
is if the city opts in and then NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
we collect the money and we would NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
essentially give it to the city. NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
But otherwise, by virtue of them annexing it, NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
they've accepted the plat and then NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
they're responsible then for the maintenance. NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
This one's in Four Corners. NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
So it's yeah. But to. Yeah, to your. NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
That's a good question, Art. NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
So, Art, NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
do you know whether most of the cities NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
are doing some kind of equivalent NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
version of that, an assessment? NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
Because this is like a fiscal thing NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
to make help it pay for itself. NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
So you would think that maybe they'd be. NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
I don't. NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
I don't believe the cities can levy and MSBU. NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
They have. I know they can't. NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
I know it. NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
But I mean, that's why I said equivalent. NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
They have equivalent methods of doing that. NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
I know if Mont Verds looked at it, NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
but through assessments I've not heard. NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
Yeah. NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
Could they could they do it, NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
though, NOTE Confidence: 0.658379976666667
if they did it with the county? NOTE Confidence: 0.728498064444444
Yeah. You said you, the county can do it. NOTE Confidence: 0.728498064444444
So if they opted in, correct, we, NOTE Confidence: 0.728498064444444
we could, they would have to opt NOTE Confidence: 0.728498064444444
in by ordinance and then we would NOTE Confidence: 0.728498064444444
bring that back kind of like what NOTE Confidence: 0.728498064444444
we've done with the fire with some of NOTE Confidence: 0.728498064444444
we've taken over some of the fire. NOTE Confidence: 0.728498064444444
I was just thinking about how this, NOTE Confidence: 0.728498064444444
you know, sort of goes hand in hand NOTE Confidence: 0.728498064444444
with the whole strong towns concept NOTE Confidence: 0.728498064444444
of we build these subdivisions, NOTE Confidence: 0.728498064444444
developers build them, and then we, NOTE Confidence: 0.728498064444444
the public take over taking care of NOTE Confidence: 0.728498064444444
them for the rest of all time, right. NOTE Confidence: 0.728498064444444
Whereas this provides that mechanism. NOTE Confidence: 0.728498064444444
So it's not coming out of the general NOTE Confidence: 0.728498064444444
fund or out of gas tax money, etcetera. NOTE Confidence: 0.728498064444444
Yeah, exactly. NOTE Confidence: 0.833992188571429
OK, now I'm sorry for that discussion. NOTE Confidence: 0.833992188571429
No, that's good. NOTE Confidence: 0.833992188571429
Because you would think the city would NOTE Confidence: 0.833992188571429
do either they would say, OK, keep, NOTE Confidence: 0.833992188571429
we'll keep the county MSBU and let NOTE Confidence: 0.833992188571429
them do it, or they would have some NOTE Confidence: 0.833992188571429
equivalent of assessing 200 and 3072. NOTE Confidence: 0.833992188571429
Yeah, but that's their choice. NOTE Confidence: 0.833992188571429
I guess they'll run into the math NOTE Confidence: 0.833992188571429
on that later. Seems like a lot, NOTE Confidence: 0.833992188571429
a lot of these get may get annexed NOTE Confidence: 0.833992188571429
prior to even come to the point where NOTE Confidence: 0.833992188571429
the board could even consider an MSPU. NOTE Confidence: 0.833992188571429
You know, they get approved and NOTE Confidence: 0.833992188571429
they get annexed, you know, So, NOTE Confidence: 0.833992188571429
yeah, that may happen also. OK, NOTE Confidence: 0.860306707272727
I'm done. Don't worry. NOTE Confidence: 0.860306707272727
I'm not going to say anything else. NOTE Confidence: 0.860306707272727
He's been thinking about lunch. NOTE Confidence: 0.860306707272727
He's thinking about MSP. NOTE Confidence: 0.860306707272727
I'm just thinking about NOTE Confidence: 0.860306707272727
someone making a motion. NOTE Confidence: 0.860306707272727
We already did. NOTE Confidence: 0.860306707272727
It's already been seconded. NOTE Confidence: 0.860306707272727
Motion, you seconded NOTE Confidence: 0.860306707272727
getting a little grind. NOTE Confidence: 0.860306707272727
We're already NOTE Confidence: 0.727903736666667
all those in favor Say aye, aye. NOTE Confidence: 0.727903736666667
Opposed. Motion carries 50. Thank you, NOTE Confidence: 0.68298392
Commissioner Parks. NOTE Confidence: 0.68298392
OK, Tab 24. Yes, Sir, we have. NOTE Confidence: 0.68298392
I'm not really active in Naco. NOTE Confidence: 0.68298392
I don't think any of us really are NOTE Confidence: 0.68298392
the National Association of Counties, NOTE Confidence: 0.68298392
but we do have a commissioner from NOTE Confidence: 0.68298392
Charlotte County, Bill Truex, NOTE Confidence: 0.68298392
who is a very solid viable candidate NOTE Confidence: 0.68298392
for leadership at the National NOTE Confidence: 0.68298392
Association of Counties level. NOTE Confidence: 0.68298392
So the request is that we just provide some NOTE Confidence: 0.68298392
kind of approval to give our proxy vote. NOTE Confidence: 0.68298392
I'm not going to go to the conference, NOTE Confidence: 0.68298392
but we just would give a proxy vote NOTE Confidence: 0.68298392
to the to the Florida Association NOTE Confidence: 0.68298392
of Counties to vote for Bill NOTE Confidence: 0.68298392
Truex from Charlotte County. NOTE Confidence: 0.68298392
And we would just need some kind of a NOTE Confidence: 0.68298392
approval and a motion on that or yeah, NOTE Confidence: 0.68298392
me and Jennifer will go over that and OK, NOTE Confidence: 0.68298392
yeah, do it however they want it. NOTE Confidence: 0.68298392
Yeah, exactly. NOTE Confidence: 0.68298392
So there's no, no questions on that. NOTE Confidence: 0.68298392
I'll just make a motion. NOTE Confidence: 0.68298392
I'll make a motion for that approval. NOTE Confidence: 0.68298392
Second, we have a motion. NOTE Confidence: 0.68298392
And 2nd, any further discussion? NOTE Confidence: 0.68298392
All those in favor say aye NOTE Confidence: 0.68298392
aye opposed Motion carries 50 NOTE Confidence: 0.703567529130435
OK other business to discuss to to NOTE Confidence: 0.703567529130435
appoint 2 county commissioners select NOTE Confidence: 0.703567529130435
a chairperson and an appointee 1 NOTE Confidence: 0.703567529130435
Civic member Value Adjustment Board. NOTE Confidence: 0.703567529130435
So we have got to do the NOTE Confidence: 0.703567529130435
value Adjustment board. NOTE Confidence: 0.703567529130435
Commissioner Blake and Commissioner NOTE Confidence: 0.703567529130435
Shields were served on the NOTE Confidence: 0.703567529130435
Value Adjustment Board in 2023. NOTE Confidence: 0.703567529130435
I'll make a motion for another year. NOTE Confidence: 0.703567529130435
That would. That would be nice, NOTE Confidence: 0.703567529130435
but we cannot include Commissioner NOTE Confidence: 0.703567529130435
Blake on that one. I'm just kidding. NOTE Confidence: 0.703567529130435
I know there would be a little problem NOTE Confidence: 0.703567529130435
with that. Yeah, there would be. NOTE Confidence: 0.703567529130435
So, Commissioner Shields, NOTE Confidence: 0.703567529130435
are you willing to continue on? Sure. NOTE Confidence: 0.703567529130435
Let me just throw this out there. I mean, NOTE Confidence: 0.703567529130435
he is up for election and I don't know. NOTE Confidence: 0.703567529130435
I'm looking at the clerk's office when NOTE Confidence: 0.703567529130435
Value Adjustment Board begins to meet. NOTE Confidence: 0.703567529130435
You guys know generally when that is? NOTE Confidence: 0.703567529130435
Would it be after election? NOTE Confidence: 0.703567529130435
Is it? NOTE Confidence: 0.703567529130435
I think it starts September. NOTE Confidence: 0.703567529130435
It's when you get your it's in September. NOTE Confidence: 0.703567529130435
They start sending notices NOTE Confidence: 0.594595893
like advertising things in July and then NOTE Confidence: 0.594595893
the meeting start, I think. Yeah, so, NOTE Confidence: 0.594595893
So in order to not have any confusion, NOTE Confidence: 0.594595893
there's three of us up here for re election. NOTE Confidence: 0.594595893
There's only two people up here and, NOTE Confidence: 0.594595893
oh, the number is 2 that we need. NOTE Confidence: 0.936299018181818
I was just testing it to see if you were on. NOTE Confidence: 0.936299018181818
But I, you know, I'm, NOTE Confidence: 0.936299018181818
I guess I'm prepared to be on it again. NOTE Confidence: 0.936299018181818
But Commissioner Parks, you know what? NOTE Confidence: 0.936299018181818
I certainly appreciate your dedication NOTE Confidence: 0.936299018181818
to be on the Value Adjustment Board. NOTE Confidence: 0.936299018181818
Commissioner Campion, NOTE Confidence: 0.936299018181818
I'm happy to serve and I'm glad NOTE Confidence: 0.936299018181818
to see that that my colleague, NOTE Confidence: 0.936299018181818
Commissioner Parks is too. NOTE Confidence: 0.936299018181818
So we'll have fun. Yeah, NOTE Confidence: 0.936299018181818
and we also need to designate one of you as NOTE Confidence: 0.936299018181818
the chairman for the Value Adjustment Board. NOTE Confidence: 0.936299018181818
I think I I'd make a recommendation. NOTE Confidence: 0.936299018181818
I was going to recommend NOTE Confidence: 0.936299018181818
Commissioner Gambion. NOTE Confidence: 0.936299018181818
I got to 1st. I would first. NOTE Confidence: 0.936299018181818
So all I have to do is pass the gavel like NOTE Confidence: 0.936299018181818
I learned that parliamentary procedure. NOTE Confidence: 0.936299018181818
Yeah, that's right. NOTE Confidence: 0.936299018181818
So do you want a motion to to name NOTE Confidence: 0.936299018181818
Commissioner Campion and Commissioner NOTE Confidence: 0.936299018181818
Parks to the Value Adjustment Board with NOTE Confidence: 0.936299018181818
Commissioner Parks serving as chairman, NOTE Confidence: 0.936299018181818
Commissioner Campion as chairman, NOTE Confidence: 0.936299018181818
second. NOTE Confidence: 0.936299018181818
OK, we have a motion and a NOTE Confidence: 0.936299018181818
second no further discussion. NOTE Confidence: 0.70551283
All those in favor say aye. NOTE Confidence: 0.70551283
Aye, we do have it looks like we need NOTE Confidence: 0.70551283
to do a citizen appointment, correct. NOTE Confidence: 0.70551283
We're we're going to do that next. NOTE Confidence: 0.70551283
All those opposed motion carries. NOTE Confidence: 0.70551283
Did you say aye on you? I said aye. NOTE Confidence: 0.70551283
OK, moving on down to the Value NOTE Confidence: 0.70551283
Adjustment Board for Citizens, NOTE Confidence: 0.718630301428571
I'll make a motion for Tanya Moore. NOTE Confidence: 0.718630301428571
Second. OK, we have a motion NOTE Confidence: 0.718630301428571
and a second for Tanya Moore. NOTE Confidence: 0.718630301428571
Any further discussion? NOTE Confidence: 0.718630301428571
All those in favor say aye, aye. NOTE Confidence: 0.718630301428571
Opposed Motion carries 50. NOTE Confidence: 0.718630301428571
Commissioner Campion on tap 26. NOTE Confidence: 0.718630301428571
I just want to confirm with NOTE Confidence: 0.718630301428571
staff though that this is, NOTE Confidence: 0.718630301428571
we have two appointments here. NOTE Confidence: 0.718630301428571
This is not an either or. NOTE Confidence: 0.718630301428571
That's correct. NOTE Confidence: 0.718630301428571
It's different categories. NOTE Confidence: 0.718630301428571
OK, perfect. That's what I thought. NOTE Confidence: 0.718630301428571
So I'll make a motion for approval of NOTE Confidence: 0.718630301428571
Marie Alberti and Anthony A Shu Tutu. NOTE Confidence: 0.718630301428571
It's not that easy, is it? NOTE Confidence: 0.718630301428571
I don't think you got one that hard today. NOTE Confidence: 0.718630301428571
I'll see a Tutu. NOTE Confidence: 0.718630301428571
I'll see a Tutu to serve on the NOTE Confidence: 0.718630301428571
Affordable Housing Advisory Committee NOTE Confidence: 0.718630301428571
and to approve their waivers. NOTE Confidence: 0.718630301428571
Second. All right. NOTE Confidence: 0.718630301428571
We have a motion to second. NOTE Confidence: 0.718630301428571
All those in favor say aye NOTE Confidence: 0.718630301428571
aye opposed motion carries NOTE Confidence: 0.718630301428571
50I want to say thank you for NOTE Confidence: 0.718630301428571
everybody to stuck around all NOTE Confidence: 0.540683016666667
three of you. NOTE Confidence: 0.540683016666667
Thank you Marty for sticking around. NOTE Confidence: 0.540683016666667
Appreciate it All right, NOTE Confidence: 0.540683016666667
moving on down to reports, NOTE Confidence: 0.540683016666667
Melanie, Jennifer, NOTE Confidence: 0.540683016666667
I don't have anything Commissioner NOTE Confidence: 0.540683016666667
Shields yesterday Lake Sumter State NOTE Confidence: 0.540683016666667
College had a sort of master planning NOTE Confidence: 0.540683016666667
exercise for what they're going to NOTE Confidence: 0.540683016666667
do with their Claremont campus. NOTE Confidence: 0.540683016666667
A lot of really good ideas. NOTE Confidence: 0.540683016666667
So if you if you want to NOTE Confidence: 0.540683016666667
get involved in that, NOTE Confidence: 0.540683016666667
it's going to be going on for a while. NOTE Confidence: 0.540683016666667
They got, I don't know 40 acres NOTE Confidence: 0.540683016666667
or something that they're trying NOTE Confidence: 0.540683016666667
to figure out what to do with. NOTE Confidence: 0.780630645
Went to a a Business Journal NOTE Confidence: 0.780630645
doing business in in Lake County. NOTE Confidence: 0.780630645
Commissioner Parks was NOTE Confidence: 0.780630645
there with me for that. NOTE Confidence: 0.780630645
Had an early learning Coalition NOTE Confidence: 0.780630645
meeting and then y'all got the e-mail NOTE Confidence: 0.780630645
or the article about the trucks on on NOTE Confidence: 0.780630645
Villa City and the residents trying NOTE Confidence: 0.780630645
to do something about it for safety. NOTE Confidence: 0.780630645
Had a big meeting there and I NOTE Confidence: 0.780630645
think we're going to get that on NOTE Confidence: 0.780630645
the agenda end of August. Yeah. NOTE Confidence: 0.780630645
So we'll we'll talk about that then. NOTE Confidence: 0.780630645
Thank you NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
Commissioner Parks. NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
Just also want to say that NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
doing doing business in Lake, NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
I thought was a great event NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
Mcclaremont last week. NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
So thanks for the staff and we NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
we supported that and sponsored NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
it and it went over very well. NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
It's good way to present the county. NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
So thank you. NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
And then just wanted to see if so off of the, NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
the comprehensive plan NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
discussion that we had earlier. NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
It would be a really good time, NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
I think for communications to let NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
everybody know that we're going NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
to be going into this visioning NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
process with the comp plan. NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
I think that's pretty big news. NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
I think the land acquisition NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
referendum was really big for today. NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
I know you're being careful NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
on how to advertise for that, NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
but I think you, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
you probably can't. NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
But I think for for the comp plan, NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
I think it is the residents, NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
the citizens would would be, NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
I think it'd be good for them to know NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
that we're going to be entering into NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
this process of making some big changes. NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
So with the comp plan, NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
as soon as we get through the RFP process, NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
then we will start notifying. NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
But we have to go through NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
that process 1st to get. NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
Yeah, NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
I'm just saying. NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
But you could generally you could start NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
talking about it now that there's NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
going to be workshops as Mike has NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
said that are going to be coming up. NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
I mean, you can never do that too much. NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
I don't think to get the word out NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
about it because that's a big deal. NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
I think it's a really big deal. NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
And I just, again, that's a big policy issue. NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
It's, it's outside of the budget. NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
It's one of the biggest NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
policy things that we do. NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
So I, NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
I think it'd be good to let NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
start people know now that that NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
we're going into that process. NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
And then we could be, NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
we could be getting into some form NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
based hybrid codes, who knows. NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
We don't have to mention that maybe no, NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
we don't want to mention any details yet. NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
Yeah, but you do want for that to be valid. NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
I think we want a lot of NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
people to participate, right. NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
So, so I, NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
I'd expect that it'll take NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
how long for the RFP process? NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
333 to six months, Yeah, NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
but 3-3 to six months. NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
Nobody's going to remember today, though. NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
Well, that's what I'm saying. NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
If we start advertising it today NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
and then it's going to be three NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
to six months before we even have NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
a date for a community meeting. NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
Think once we get a little NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
bit closer to naming the, NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
OR selecting the vendor to NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
do the comp plan rewrite, NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
we can start advertising well ahead of, NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
of meetings, NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
a month or more ahead of meetings and stuff. NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
I don't want it to get lost in the, NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
I understand that, NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
but also people are going to, NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
they'll be asking And so it's NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
easy for us when we get asked NOTE Confidence: 0.733685171538462
about it that we're going to be NOTE Confidence: 0.884595294090909
doing that. You point to NOTE Confidence: 0.884595294090909
some media that we've done. NOTE Confidence: 0.884595294090909
So I, I'm just one guy, NOTE Confidence: 0.884595294090909
but I think that would be NOTE Confidence: 0.884595294090909
something we, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.884595294090909
you'd want to start talking about. NOTE Confidence: 0.375532235
Commissioner can't be home. NOTE Confidence: 0.375532235
Let's see, just update yesterday I NOTE Confidence: 0.375532235
went to our transportation disadvantage NOTE Confidence: 0.375532235
coordinating board meeting and you NOTE Confidence: 0.375532235
know we meet there at the MPO office NOTE Confidence: 0.375532235
and our paratransit ridership is, NOTE Confidence: 0.375532235
is up significantly. NOTE Confidence: 0.375532235
Our life sustaining trips NOTE Confidence: 0.375532235
in particular are much, NOTE Confidence: 0.375532235
much higher this year NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
from the standpoint of being NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
able to provide the service. NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
I think they're down like NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
five or six drivers. NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
They've had some folks that they've NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
lost just because of serious illnesses NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
and things like that trying to, NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
but that's creating a deficiency. NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
You know, we're having some issues. NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
People are trying to get their rides NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
and they can't get their rides. NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
But one really great statistic we learned NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
about was the on time percentage is like 96%. NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
So that's a huge, huge improvement. NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
But it's, it's a, NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
it's a difficult thing to coordinate NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
those trips because they're by NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
appointment and you have a certain number NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
of people that sometimes they don't, NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
they make their appointment there, NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
they don't show or they make their NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
appointment bus drivers late. NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
They get to their appointment, NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
their doctor's appointment late and they NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
get charged if they're not there on time. NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
So we had a member of the public come NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
in and talk to us about wanting to add NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
a route to Ocala because of specialists NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
that are in Ocala that they don't have here. NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
So it's, NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
you'd be surprised just because I've NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
immersed in this and I'm aware of it, NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
but you'd be surprised how many people NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
in Lake County depend upon this, NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
the service to be able to get to NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
their doctor's appointments and to NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
get their groceries and so forth. NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
So, but we did this this past round, NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
our staff had put in for a grant NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
for on demand, NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
an on demand program that would, NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
we were really hoping that we would get it. NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
We did not get the grant, NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
but we are going to. NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
They were given the option of NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
taking half of being awarded half NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
the money and they decided we can't NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
run the program for half the money. NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
So they're, NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
they're reapplying and putting NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
together another grant, NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
but they shared someone that was NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
there from dot shared with us NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
and some of the other folks that NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
were there were aware of it. NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
Volusia County has put together using the NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
same grant and on demand system where NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
they actually bought all the vehicles. NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
They have the drivers, NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
they run the whole program. NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
And it's not just for paratransit. NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
You can use it for any resident in, NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
in Volusia County can use it. NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
They actually got rid of a couple of NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
their bus routes that were internal, NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
I think to the land itself in NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
order to come up with the funds NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
to be able to provide the service. NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
What they were looking at is people NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
have been taking shorter trips and NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
being able to have a way to get NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
there as opposed to having the, NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
they're circulating routes in two locations. NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
I think that's how they described NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
that they were able to make it work. NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
But it's fascinating because it NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
seems that that would be a much more NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
economical way to be able to get NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
people where they need to go and NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
do it more efficient, efficiently. NOTE Confidence: 0.91298282
So we're, we're, NOTE Confidence: 0.901449972307692
our staff is going to put in for NOTE Confidence: 0.901449972307692
that grant again and hopefully put NOTE Confidence: 0.901449972307692
something together that we can get NOTE Confidence: 0.901449972307692
it in in time and make it work. So NOTE Confidence: 0.956171176
maybe one of these days I'll NOTE Confidence: 0.956171176
work with staff to invite you NOTE Confidence: 0.956171176
all to maybe do a trip or do a, NOTE Confidence: 0.956171176
a bus route, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.956171176
on the paratransit and just get a feel for. NOTE Confidence: 0.956171176
How important this program NOTE Confidence: 0.956171176
is in in the county it NOTE Confidence: 0.462563015
is. OK. Thank you, Commissioner Blake. NOTE Confidence: 0.462563015
Yeah, I just want to mention one thing. NOTE Confidence: 0.462563015
Apparently this was printed in March, NOTE Confidence: 0.462563015
but I didn't really sit down and NOTE Confidence: 0.462563015
go through it till last week. NOTE Confidence: 0.462563015
But the visit Lake magazine that they NOTE Confidence: 0.462563015
put together Ryan Ritchie and his crew, NOTE Confidence: 0.462563015
whoever else was involved NOTE Confidence: 0.462563015
in that turned out great. NOTE Confidence: 0.462563015
It's a really well done polished NOTE Confidence: 0.462563015
piece of work and I just wanted to NOTE Confidence: 0.462563015
give them props for that because NOTE Confidence: 0.462563015
I I had a chance last week to look NOTE Confidence: 0.462563015
at it and I was very impressed. NOTE Confidence: 0.462563015
Took it home and showed it to my kids. NOTE Confidence: 0.462563015
They were impressed too. NOTE Confidence: 0.462563015
If you want to visit late, it does. NOTE Confidence: 0.462563015
It does. I thought it was great. NOTE Confidence: 0.462563015
That's it. All right. NOTE Confidence: 0.462563015
Speaking about Ryan Ritchie, NOTE Confidence: 0.462563015
I have a a luncheon do to do a NOTE Confidence: 0.462563015
send off for Star Athletic Group NOTE Confidence: 0.462563015
that we're sponsoring who is the NOTE Confidence: 0.462563015
track and field team going to the NOTE Confidence: 0.462563015
Olympic Trials in Oregon next week. NOTE Confidence: 0.462563015
So good luck to them. NOTE Confidence: 0.956203035714286
Jennifer and I had the opportunity to NOTE Confidence: 0.956203035714286
tour the Tavares Lake Tech Public Works NOTE Confidence: 0.956203035714286
technical diesel mechanic facility. NOTE Confidence: 0.956203035714286
It is quite impressive, NOTE Confidence: 0.956203035714286
is really quite impressive. NOTE Confidence: 0.956203035714286
The only thing about that is when we NOTE Confidence: 0.956203035714286
were walking in between the buildings, NOTE Confidence: 0.956203035714286
it was hot yesterday. NOTE Confidence: 0.956203035714286
Yeah, yesterday it was brutal. NOTE Confidence: 0.956203035714286
And it it brought reminders NOTE Confidence: 0.956203035714286
of me back when I was a kid NOTE Confidence: 0.58093095875
in Zellwood. Everybody remember NOTE Confidence: 0.58093095875
the Zellwood Corn Festival? NOTE Confidence: 0.58093095875
Yes, In July, though. NOTE Confidence: 0.58093095875
Yeah, that's in July. But. NOTE Confidence: 0.58093095875
But today is a special day, Corn day, NOTE Confidence: 0.58093095875
because today is National Corn on the cop NOTE Confidence: 0.58093095875
Day, and that's all we have for our meeting. NOTE Confidence: 0.58093095875
Oh. Oh, I asked a question real quick. NOTE Confidence: 0.58093095875
The bombing range, Pine Castle. NOTE Confidence: 0.58093095875
Those of you that have gone, NOTE Confidence: 0.58093095875
you just wear comfortable shoes. NOTE Confidence: 0.58093095875
I'm going tomorrow. Yeah. NOTE Confidence: 0.58093095875
Just tennis shoes are fine. NOTE Confidence: 0.58093095875
You, you won't be able to get on the range. NOTE Confidence: 0.58093095875
OK. All right. All right. NOTE Confidence: 0.58093095875
Nice. And airplanes bring some. NOTE Confidence: 0.58093095875
Well, I bet they give you some, but OK, NOTE Confidence: 0.58093095875
sorry to interrupt. And that's OK. NOTE Confidence: 0.58093095875
No, that's a good question. NOTE Confidence: 0.58093095875
Eat corn on the cob today. NOTE Confidence: 0.58093095875
And I'm glad you're going because that's NOTE Confidence: 0.58093095875
the phenomenal facility up there. NOTE Confidence: 0.58093095875
So good luck to Star Athletics. NOTE Confidence: 0.58093095875
Congratulations Ryan Ritchie on on your NOTE Confidence: 0.58093095875
magazine and everything you're doing NOTE Confidence: 0.58093095875
to help visit Lake and Elevate Lake. NOTE Confidence: 0.58093095875
It's truly making a difference with our NOTE Confidence: 0.58093095875
economy. I certainly appreciate it. NOTE Confidence: 0.58093095875
And today, NOTE Confidence: 0.58093095875
go out and have some corn on the cob. NOTE Confidence: 0.58093095875
Meeting adjourned, NOTE Confidence: 0.347909168
but you how much in his house when you were?