[2:45] Good morning and welcome to the June 11th,
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[2:48] 2024 meeting of the Board
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[2:50] of County Commissioners.
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[2:51] This meeting is being streamed
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[2:52] live on the county website.
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[2:54] We are also broadcasting this
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[2:56] meeting via Zoom for those members
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[2:58] of the public who would like to
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[3:00] provide input during a meeting
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[3:02] but unable to be here in person.
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[3:04] Eric from IT department will explain
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[3:06] that process here in just a minute.
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[3:10] And to kick off our meeting,
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[3:12] I would like to welcome Miss Pastor
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[3:15] James Maury from Union Congressional
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[3:17] Church for the invocation and
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[3:19] the Pledge of Allegiance.
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[3:27] Thank you for this opportunity to come
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[3:29] and pray with you for your meeting.
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[3:31] But I do want to correct one thing,
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[3:32] it's Union, Union Congregational Church.
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[3:36] We don't want to be confused
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[3:38] with congressional if that's OK.
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[3:43] Creator and sustainer of all life,
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[3:45] in whose image and likeness
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[3:47] we are all created and whose
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[3:50] holy breath gives life to all.
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[3:52] We lift the members of this
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[3:54] Commission to you this morning.
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[3:56] Give them wisdom and understanding
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[3:59] and the decisions they make so
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[4:01] that all those in our community
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[4:04] may flourish and experience the
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[4:06] abundance of your life and grace.
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[4:09] Help them to be mindful of your
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[4:12] cherished children under their
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[4:13] care who experience challenges
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[4:15] of life and struggle with health,
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[4:18] lack of financial resources and
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[4:20] shelter from the extreme heat,
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[4:22] especially the elderly in our communities.
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[4:25] Bless our commissioners and
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[4:27] their families who support them,
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[4:29] their staff,
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[4:30] and all who enable them to
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[4:32] perform their duties.
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[4:33] Watch over our first responders,
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[4:36] our firefighters and law enforcement
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[4:38] officers and keep them safe as
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[4:41] they serve our communities.
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[4:42] And embrace their families
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[4:43] who in faith and love,
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[4:45] send them to their task to
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[4:47] keep all of us safe.
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[4:49] May we all be mindful of our
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[4:51] connectedness as your children,
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[4:52] and may we ever strive to lift
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[4:55] each other in ways that realize
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[4:57] your Kingdom of love for all.
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[4:59] In your blessed name we pray, Amen.
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[5:05] I pledge the allegiance to that
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[5:08] the United States of America and to
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[5:11] the Republic for which it stands,
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[5:13] one nation under God, indivisible,
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[5:17] with liberty and justice for all.
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[5:25] OK, Thank you very much.
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[5:29] All right, moving on down to our
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[5:31] virtual meeting instructions, Eric.
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[5:33] Commissioners, this meeting is being
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[5:35] streamed live on the county's website.
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[5:38] The meeting is also being made available
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[5:40] through Zoom webinar for members of the
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[5:42] public who wish to provide comments
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[5:44] during the citizen question and
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[5:46] comment period later in your agenda.
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[5:49] Anyone watching through the live stream
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[5:51] who wishes to participate in the meeting
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[5:53] can follow the directions broadcast
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[5:55] now through the stream during the
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[5:57] Citizen question and comment section.
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[5:59] Anyone who has joined the Zoom
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[6:01] webinar using their phone can press
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[6:07] Anyone participating online can
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[6:08] click the Raise Hand button to
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[6:11] let us know you wish to speak.
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[6:13] When it is time for public comment,
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[6:16] the meeting facilitator will read the
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[6:18] person's name or phone number and will
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[6:21] then unmute the appropriate line and the
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[6:23] speaker will be asked to provide comments.
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[6:26] Everyone will have 3 minutes to speak.
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[6:29] After three minutes,
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[6:30] an alarm will sound letting
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[6:32] them know their time is up.
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[6:34] We have previously notified the
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[6:36] public that comments could be emailed
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[6:38] up through 5:00 PM yesterday and
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[6:40] those comments were shared with
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[6:42] the board prior to the meeting.
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[6:44] Anyone wishing to provide written
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[6:45] comments during the meeting can visit
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[6:51] lakecountyfl.gov/commissionmeeting
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[6:51] thatslakecountyfl.gov/commission meeting.
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[6:58] Any written comments submitted during the
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[7:00] meeting will be shared with each board
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[7:02] member following the meeting. Thank you.
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[7:06] OK, thank you.
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[7:09] Moving on down to our agenda update,
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[7:10] Jennifer. Yes, good morning, Mr.
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[7:12] Chair, Tab 27 was added as an addendum
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[7:15] since the agenda was first published.
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[7:18] That is down at the bottom of the
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[7:20] agenda under Commissioner Parks's
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[7:22] items and I believe he would like
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[7:24] to also move that up in the agenda
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[7:26] if it's so pleases the chairman.
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[7:28] Yeah. Why don't we move that above?
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[7:29] Won't we move that just below consent agenda?
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[7:33] Thank you. OK, I will do that.
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[7:37] Thank you. Appreciate
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[7:43] it. OK,
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[7:54] now for the exciting part of our meeting,
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[7:59] Miss Janine Nelson with the employee Awards.
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[8:04] Good morning, Mr.
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[8:05] Chair and Commissioners.
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[8:06] My name is Janine Nelson.
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[8:08] I'm with Human Resources and Risk Management.
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[8:11] This morning you are recognizing employees
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[8:13] who have reached significant milestones
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[8:15] in their careers with with Lake County.
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[8:18] And additionally, we have two retirees,
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[8:20] one of whom is with us today.
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[8:23] So we're going to start
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[8:24] with five years of service.
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[8:25] After I read the names of the
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[8:26] individuals in that group,
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[8:27] if we could give a joint round of applause
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[8:29] in for that particular year group, right?
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[8:32] We're going to start with five years.
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[8:33] Misty Spawn.
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[8:34] She began her career with Lake
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[8:36] County on May the 6th, 2019.
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[8:38] She's an agenda coordinator with
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[8:41] the County Manager's Office.
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[8:43] Sarah Afatado began her career with
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[8:45] Lake County on May 13th, 2019.
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[8:48] She's an EMT with the Office of Fire Rescue.
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[8:52] Next we have John Patterson,
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[8:53] he began his career with Lake
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[8:55] County on May the 28th, 2019.
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[8:57] He's a traffic signal technician
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[8:59] with the Office of Public Works.
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[9:02] Ryan Mitchun began his career with
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[9:04] Lake County on April 1st, 2019.
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[9:06] He serves as the Chief Code Enforcement
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[9:09] officer with the Office of Code Enforcement.
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[9:12] Perry Collins is next.
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[9:13] He began his career with Lake
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[9:15] County on April the 1st, 2019.
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[9:17] Also, he's a senior building inspector
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[9:19] with the Office of Building Services.
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[9:22] Miranda Leno began her career with
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[9:24] Lake County on April the 1st, 2019.
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[9:27] She serves as a senior budget coordinator
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[9:29] with the Office of Management and Budget.
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[9:32] Craig Rawls began his career with
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[9:34] Lake County on April the 1st,
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[9:36] 2019.
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[9:36] He's a paramedic with the Office of Fire
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[9:39] Rescue and Eric Clark began his career
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[9:41] with Lake County on April the 15th,
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[9:44] 2019.
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[9:45] He's an Enterprise Technology
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[9:47] architect with IT.
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[9:49] Stephanie Klein began her career with
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[9:51] Lake County on April the 29th, 2019.
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[9:53] She's a program associate for 4H with
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[9:56] the Office of Extension Services.
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[9:59] And then Marissa Walters began her career
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[10:01] with Lake County on April the 29th,
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[10:03] 2019.
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[10:04] Firefighter,
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[10:04] Paramedic with the Office of Fire Rescue.
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[10:08] With those individuals who are here with
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[10:09] us today who are celebrating five years,
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[10:11] please stand up so we can recognize you.
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[10:13] Thank you.
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[10:23] Ten years, We just have one individual.
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[10:25] David Bezrock began his career with
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[10:27] Lake County on April the 21st, 2014.
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[10:29] He's a spray truck operator
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[10:31] with mosquito management,
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[10:33] Parks and water Resources.
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[10:34] He was not able to be with us today, right?
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[10:37] So let's give him a round of applause.
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[10:45] Next, we're jumping all the way to 25 years.
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[10:48] Scott Alker began his career with
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[10:50] Lake County in May the 24th, 1999.
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[10:53] He serves as a chief maintenance
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[10:56] supervisor with Facilities Management.
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[10:59] Then Anthony Cuellar began his career
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[11:01] with Lake County on May the 26th, 1999.
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[11:04] He's Deputy Chief of Operations
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[11:06] with the Office of Fire Rescue.
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[11:08] And then Phil Aldrich began his career
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[11:10] with Lake County on April the 3rd, 1999.
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[11:13] He's a fire Lieutenant EMT
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[11:14] with the Office of Fire Rescue.
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[11:17] With those individuals here
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[11:18] celebrating 25 years,
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[11:19] please stand to be recognized.
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[11:29] Next, we have two retirements.
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[11:31] I'm going to start first with Troy Braley.
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[11:33] Troy Braley was not able to be with us today.
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[11:35] He began his career with Lake
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[11:37] County on June the 1st, 1999.
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[11:39] He served as a fire captain
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[11:41] with the Office of Fire Rescue.
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[11:43] Let's give a round of applause for Troy.
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[11:50] Virginia Morehead is with us this morning.
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[11:52] She began her career with Lake
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[11:54] County on May the 30th, 2006.
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[11:55] She's a right of way agent too,
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[11:57] with the Office of Engineering Public Works.
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[12:00] And Jeff Earhart is here this
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[12:01] morning to speak a little bit
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[12:03] more about Virginia. Jeff,
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[12:08] good morning. Thank you for the honor.
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[12:10] Should we make, should we make
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[12:11] her stand up and be embarrassed?
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[12:12] I think I I think we should
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[12:19] if you want to look there or
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[12:21] here or anywhere, you guys know,
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[12:22] you never know what I'm going to say.
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[12:23] Sorry, Jennifer.
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[12:25] So Virginia team Morehead
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[12:28] affectionately known as Jenny,
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[12:29] like from Forrest Gump.
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[12:31] So I can remember how to say it started
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[12:33] in Lake County in 2618 years ago.
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[12:36] As a point of reference,
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[12:39] 2006 is when Netflix began streaming,
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[12:42] NASA landed a spacecraft on Mars,
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[12:45] Steve Jobs introduced the first iPhone
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[12:48] and Tesla unveiled the first Roadster.
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[12:52] Jenny was in the middle of her Myspace craze,
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[12:54] which incidentally was valued 65
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[12:57] times Facebook at that point in time.
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[13:01] We spend most of our waking hours with
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[13:03] our Co workers and do life together.
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[13:06] We were there when Jenny was
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[13:08] battling cancer beside her,
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[13:10] raising her daughter Stephanie,
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[13:11] admiring her dedication to
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[13:13] volunteering with the Red Cross,
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[13:15] and participating while she made
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[13:18] military care packages throughout
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[13:20] Jenny's career with public works
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[13:22] as part of the Right of Way Family,
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[13:25] We are family, she assisted,
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[13:27] inquiring thousands of acres of
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[13:29] right away and millions of dollars
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[13:31] worth of property for Lake County.
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[13:33] These efforts have paved the way,
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[13:36] both literally and figuratively,
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[13:38] for such projects as Wellness Way,
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[13:40] Schofield Rd.
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[13:42] County Road 465, Citrus Grove Rd.
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[13:44] Hancock Rd.
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[13:45] and many others.
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[13:46] She is and will ever be part
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[13:49] of the original Right of Way
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[13:51] team which included Patty,
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[13:53] Becky and Cindy.
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[13:54] For those of you that have
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[13:56] been here that long,
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[13:57] Jenny's goal of improving the quality
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[13:59] of life for all the residents
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[14:01] through transportation initiatives,
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[14:02] development review,
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[14:03] real estate transactions and legal
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[14:06] knowledge is second to none.
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[14:08] But even more important that Jenny's
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[14:11] technical knowledge is I will
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[14:14] remember her Mashed potato lunches,
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[14:17] her quick wit,
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[14:18] her catering prowess and how she
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[14:21] experienced lost and how she
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[14:23] cares for people.
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[14:24] Jenny enjoyed caring for others
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[14:26] and being an unsung hero,
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[14:28] always volunteering for tasks and
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[14:30] events that need done but don't
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[14:32] get much praise.
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[14:34] She loves her daughter and her friends.
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[14:36] She hopes to relax a bit and eventually
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[14:38] travel to see your cousins up north.
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[14:42] That's where I want to go right now,
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[14:43] up north where it's cool.
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[14:47] As a small token of our appreciation for
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[14:49] Jenny and as a constant reminder of the
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[14:51] great time she had here at Lake County,
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[14:53] the entire Lake County family
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[14:55] would like to present you with
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[14:58] this represent your often tranquil
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[15:01] but hopefully exciting retirement.
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[15:04] Congratulations, Jane.
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[15:23] Thank you so much.
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[15:25] This concludes our presentation today.
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[15:26] Would you like to say a few words?
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[15:28] Want to say anything, Jenny?
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[15:33] OK, thank you, everyone.
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[15:37] All right, thank you and congratulations.
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[15:41] All right, moving on down to our
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[15:44] minutes approval, Mr. Cooney.
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[15:46] Good morning, Mr. Chairman.
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[15:47] Members of the Commission,
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[15:48] I have one set of minutes,
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[15:49] minutes for your approval this morning.
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[15:52] Move for approval. Second.
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[15:53] All right, we have a motion.
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[15:55] And 2nd, all those in favor say aye,
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[15:57] aye, opposed.
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[15:58] Motion carries 50. Just
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[16:06] bring any more cards,
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[16:12] OK? We're moving into our citizens
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[16:15] public comment and questions period.
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[16:17] At this time we can speak about
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[16:20] anything that is not on the agenda.
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[16:25] If something is on the on the agenda.
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[16:29] I was just trying to help you get organized
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[16:32] here because you got a lot of them.
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[16:33] Yeah, sorry. It's like 10 piles up here.
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[16:37] So anything that is not on the agenda,
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[16:40] you'll Please wait for your tab.
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[16:42] There are a couple on here that say
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[16:47] public comment, but I'm
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[16:49] thinking they are for a tab. And
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[16:56] Mr. Williamson, Clifford Williamson,
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[16:59] you're talking about the annexation. Yeah.
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[17:02] So that's Tab 17. We'll wait for that.
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[17:08] Chris Creech, same thing, Tab 17. OK.
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[17:16] And Mr. Clifford,
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[17:17] you got two cards up here.
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[17:18] Do you want to read twice?
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[17:21] Just one? OK. All right.
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[17:24] With that, then we'll move on down to
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[17:26] our public comment and question period.
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[17:29] Mr. Mike Stanley or Stevens? Mike
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[17:35] Stevens. Stevens.
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[17:35] That's probably over there.
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[17:36] That's probably over the referendum.
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[17:37] Holy moly. Oh,
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[17:38] that's going to be on the agenda.
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[17:40] That's probably the referendum.
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[17:41] Is this, is this the referendum?
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[17:44] No. No. Oh,
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[17:54] OK, no. I come to you today for
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[17:55] the Florida Greenways and Trails
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[17:56] Council as the chairman of Florida
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[17:57] Greenways and Trails Council.
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[17:58] What I've given her to give to you
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[18:00] is the new Florida Greenways and
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[18:02] Trails System plan for 2024 to 2028,
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[18:05] which details all the priority
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[18:06] trails for the state of Florida,
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[18:08] all the priority greenways
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[18:09] for the state of Florida,
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[18:11] as well as the regional trails throughout
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[18:12] the state of Florida and their ranking.
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[18:14] As you know,
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[18:15] we have 4 regional trails now and in
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[18:17] Lake County we were successful in getting
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[18:19] two added during this five year plan.
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[18:21] The plan runs from 2024 to 2028
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[18:24] and once you're in this plan,
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[18:26] it's the system plan for
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[18:27] the entire state of Florida,
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[18:28] then you become eligible
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[18:29] for Sun Trail funding.
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[18:30] So we now have 4 trails within the
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[18:32] state of within Lake County that
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[18:34] are eligible for that funding.
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[18:35] So the coast to coast,
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[18:37] which is 100% funded in program
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[18:39] does not completely built,
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[18:40] it's about 90% built that may remaining
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[18:42] gap is in Sumter in Lake County.
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[18:44] The Wekiva Trail,
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[18:45] we were successful in getting that
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[18:48] added this past planning period.
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[18:50] So that's in there now.
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[18:51] The North Lake Riverdale Hills
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[18:52] Trail is also in there.
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[18:54] We were successful in getting
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[18:55] that added this year.
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[18:56] And then the Heart of Florida loop,
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[18:57] which runs around the top of Florida or
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[18:59] top of Lake County in northern Lake County.
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[19:01] So I just wanted to give you that.
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[19:02] I've sent you links to it before digitally,
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[19:05] but I wanted to give you the hard copy
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[19:07] in case you wanted to see the hard copy.
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[19:09] And if you have any questions on,
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[19:10] I'll be glad to answer any questions
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[19:11] you can question me later,
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[19:12] that kind of thing.
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[19:13] But I just wanted to deliver that
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[19:15] today so you have that information.
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[19:19] The only question I have is is where
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[19:21] can the general public pick this up at?
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[19:23] You can go to, you can search Florida
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[19:26] Greenways and Trail system plan.
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[19:28] That should come up digitally.
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[19:30] You there's three links.
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[19:31] I had to split it in three links so
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[19:33] you can click on each link. Yes.
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[19:35] Department of Environmental Protection,
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[19:36] Office of Greenways and
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[19:38] Trails is where it's located.
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[19:39] If they want to e-mail me or contact me,
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[19:41] I'll be glad to get them copies as well.
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[19:43] We have our next meeting at the end of
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[19:45] this month on the 25th in Brooksville,
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[19:47] and I'm going to get a box of the hard copy.
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[19:49] So we have those available for
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[19:50] folks in Lake County as well.
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[19:51] So OK, thank you, Thank you.
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[19:54] I apologize,
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[19:55] I won't be here for the referendum.
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[19:56] I've got to go back to work
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[19:57] and change shirts.
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[19:58] So,
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[20:01] all right, moving on down to
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[20:04] mental health, Mr. Banks.
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[20:12] Banks Helfrich Farmer Banks Candidate
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[20:16] State House District 259100 Sands Lake Rd.
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[20:19] Claremont The Clay Rd. District Chairman
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[20:23] Commissioners distinguished guests.
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[20:24] In our community there are those of
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[20:28] us who are dealing with aloneness,
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[20:30] loneliness, depression and anxiety.
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[20:32] Or that person is US1 year
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[20:36] ago I was in that situation.
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[20:38] I was dealing with depression,
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[20:40] anxiety, aloneness and loneliness
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[20:42] because of two losses in my life.
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[20:45] What did I do? First and foremost,
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[20:48] the first thing you can do is talk about it.
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[20:50] Talk about mental health to distinguish or to
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[20:55] eliminate the the stigma of mental health.
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[20:58] Another thing you can do is
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[21:00] turn to community.
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[21:01] Community is the first defense
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[21:03] in fighting mental health.
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[21:05] I did that in South Lake County
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[21:07] a couple of ways.
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[21:08] First and foremost,
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[21:10] I joined the pickleball club
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[21:13] down in Claremont.
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[21:14] It is community based,
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[21:15] it is people based and it's a chance
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[21:18] to take out your stress and anxiety.
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[21:21] Actually, I was asked to join that club.
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[21:23] There's also Tai Chi of Claremont,
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[21:26] Sonia Dumas.
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[21:26] She is in charge of that organization.
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[21:29] It helps it is a community based
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[21:32] organization and also it allows us to
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[21:35] come together and to practice Tai chi.
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[21:38] Another one is yoga with Jamie van der Meer,
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[21:41] live life and living yoga.
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[21:44] Both of these Tai chi and yoga
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[21:48] are free and they're they're given
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[21:51] up or given by Blue of Florida,
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[21:54] Florida Blue also I explored
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[21:59] into talk therapy Doctor Ruth,
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[22:02] not that Doctor Ruth,
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[22:03] another one from Orlando help
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[22:06] me out with that with insomnia.
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[22:09] I also went with breathwork.
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[22:12] Amanda Nichols helped with
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[22:15] eliminating any issues of past issues.
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[22:19] These organizations, these groups,
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[22:21] these things that help and mental
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[22:24] health were were a great help for me.
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[22:26] However,
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[22:27] I always found myself coming back to nature.
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[22:29] Nature gave me balance and it's
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[22:31] good because I am a farmer.
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[22:33] I teach sustainability.
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[22:34] I teach people how to to grow,
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[22:36] show them that they do have a green thumb.
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[22:38] Once a month I open up my farm
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[22:40] to a farm tour.
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[22:41] It is a second Sunday of every month.
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[22:43] It is open for anybody and everybody,
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[22:46] all ages.
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[22:47] This past weekend we had 16 show up,
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[22:50] 16 survive.
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[22:51] It was a little warm out there.
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[22:54] Also,
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[22:55] three harvest is per year,
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[22:57] sugar cane harvest,
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[22:58] a
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[23:01] sweet potato harvest and also a yuca harvest.
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[23:04] Commissioner, Chairman, thank you
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[23:05] so much for allowing me to speak.
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[23:07] My name is Banks Helfrich Farmer.
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[23:09] Banks, may you all be blessed.
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[23:11] Thank you. All right, Thank you.
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[23:16] OK, Next up, Mr. Ray Powers.
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[23:25] Morning commissioners.
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[23:26] I'm here on behalf of the Lake County
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[23:29] Historical Society and Museum.
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[23:31] I also have my vice president with me.
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[23:33] He made sure he wants everybody
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[23:35] know that's his job today,
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[23:36] not the other one.
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[23:39] No questions today.
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[23:40] This week is Flag Day on Friday and
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[23:43] normally we have a presentation over the
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[23:47] museum that's pretty well impossible.
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[23:49] On with it how it's happening this week.
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[23:52] So one of our big supporters is Addie
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[23:54] Owens of Touchstone Real Estate and
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[23:57] Addie bought us a bunch of small flags
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[24:00] that we wanted to bring in for you guys.
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[24:02] And with permission I can probably put
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[24:04] them out on the table and let everybody
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[24:07] that comes in the admin building
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[24:09] at least get a flag for this week.
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[24:11] You know, it's awfully important.
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[24:13] It's amazing the history of Flag Day.
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[24:15] It used to be parades and everything.
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[24:17] And we just,
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[24:20] it would be nice to get back to that.
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[24:21] But next year we'll try to have another.
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[24:23] We'll have something over at the museum.
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[24:27] Mr. Baker, Kerry Baker,
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[24:29] my vice president's here.
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[24:31] And he'd like take a few minutes
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[24:33] and just tell you guys a little bit
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[24:35] about how important our flag is.
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[24:36] And with that,
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[24:37] I'll let him come up and give you guys
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[24:39] a little presentation, if that's OK.
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[24:41] Hold on a second. Got some questions for you.
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[24:43] OK, so, so on the flags you have,
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[24:45] are they they're American flags.
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[24:48] Yes, Sir. That's a good start.
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[24:52] Yes,
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[24:52] Sir.
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[24:55] They'll the the flag that I'm proud of.
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[24:57] OK, OK. Yes, Sir.
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[25:00] Thank you and I'm OK with you.
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[25:03] First of all, thank you for the
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[25:06] Historical Society for doing this.
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[25:07] Second of all, I'm OK for you to put
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[25:11] them out on the outside for the public.
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[25:14] If it's OK for Jennifer,
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[25:15] the rest of the commissioners,
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[25:17] OK, And whatever is leftover,
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[25:19] we can do something.
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[25:20] I mean, we got the rest of the week,
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[25:23] like I had to get them out.
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[25:24] We have some over at the museum, too.
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[25:25] How many flags do you have in there?
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[25:27] There's probably at least
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[25:30] two or three hundred.
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[25:31] All right, So hopefully we can have 300
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[25:33] American flags here in Lake County flying.
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[25:36] That would be wonderful. Yes, Sir.
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[25:38] Yes, Sir, It sure would be.
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[25:39] Yeah. Thank you.
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[25:40] That I'll get Carrie for you guys.
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[25:43] OK.
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[25:43] Up next, Mr.
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[25:45] Carrie Baker.
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[25:49] Mr. Chairman, Commissioners,
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[25:50] thanks for letting me share a few thoughts.
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[25:52] Hold on a second. Honorable Carrie Baker.
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[25:56] Thank you, Honorable. Mr.
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[25:57] Chairman. Commissioner,
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[26:00] just want to share a few thoughts and one is,
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[26:03] you know, you ever wonder why Americans
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[26:05] hold the flag in such high regard,
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[26:08] especially compared to maybe
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[26:10] folks in other nations?
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[26:11] And, and I would,
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[26:12] I would tell you that's one of the reasons I
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[26:15] believe is because the price that we paid,
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[26:17] you know, it's human nature when
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[26:19] you pay a lot for something,
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[26:20] when you sacrifice for something
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[26:22] that you value it more.
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[26:24] And conversely, when you don't pay much,
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[26:27] you don't sacrifice for something,
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[26:29] typically you don't hold
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[26:31] it in as greater regard.
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[26:34] The American flag was purchased
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[26:37] at a great price by Americans,
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[26:39] originally a Revolutionary War,
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[26:41] Soldiers stood up and they
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[26:43] sacrificed property.
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[26:45] They sacrificed their lives.
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[26:46] They fought for the flag and the
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[26:48] values that represented in the nation.
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[26:50] It became both the Constitution
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[26:53] and the rights we enjoy and,
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[26:55] and as a consequence,
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[26:56] we value that because we recognize
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[26:59] not only those original sacrifices,
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[27:01] but in the last 250 years,
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[27:04] we've had troops carry that flag in
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[27:07] defense of freedom across the world.
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[27:10] Once again making sacrifice after
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[27:13] sacrifice that we recognize and
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[27:15] we feel when we look in that,
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[27:17] at that flag and that.
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[27:20] And not to pick on our Canadian friends,
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[27:22] I told this story before,
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[27:26] you know, Canada,
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[27:27] no Canadian ever picked up a musket
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[27:29] and face cannonballs in defense
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[27:31] of the establishment of Canada.
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[27:33] The British Empire collapsed and
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[27:36] they gained their freedom and,
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[27:38] and that was it.
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[27:40] And,
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[27:40] and I mentioned that because I
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[27:41] had a Canadian talk to me a couple
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[27:43] weeks ago and they're very nice
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[27:45] people and nicer than me probably.
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[27:48] And,
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[27:48] and he didn't quite understand our fervor,
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[27:51] our patriotic fervor for our flag and our,
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[27:54] and our rights.
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[27:55] And, and I was thinking that's because,
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[27:57] and I didn't tell this to him because
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[27:58] I didn't want to hurt his feelings.
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[28:00] And,
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[28:00] and it's because they didn't have to fight.
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[28:02] They didn't have to sacrifice or wasn't
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[28:05] Canadian bloodshed for their flag.
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[28:07] They just,
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[28:08] the British Empire collapsed and they said,
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[28:10] here you go, Canada,
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[28:11] you can have your freedom.
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[28:12] Matter of fact, they,
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[28:13] they literally kept the monarch
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[28:15] on their money up until recently.
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[28:17] Maybe it's still there.
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[28:18] And so with with that,
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[28:20] I'd like to just say that this Friday,
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[28:24] we should all just strive to remember
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[28:27] and be mindful and thankful for
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[28:30] the all the sacrifices that were
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[28:32] made so this flag can fly proudly,
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[28:36] bravely across this nation and represent
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[28:39] the ideas this country was founded on.
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[28:41] Thank you.
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[28:44] Thank you, Sir.
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[28:50] OK, That's all the cards we have in.
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[28:52] I have anybody else in the
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[28:54] audience would like to say
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[28:55] anything that's not on the agenda?
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[28:59] Seeing none, anybody online? No.
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[29:02] So I would like to make just one request.
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[29:05] If you're looking at this video and
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[29:07] you would like an American flag,
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[29:09] please come down to the county administration
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[29:12] building and pick up your flag.
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[29:13] And they are little flags,
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[29:16] just in case somebody's watching online
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[29:17] and they didn't realize that they
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[29:19] might come down asking for a big flag.
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[29:24] OK, we are moving on down
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[29:27] to our consent agenda.
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[29:29] Is there anybody in the
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[29:31] audience that disagrees with
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[29:32] anything on the consent agenda?
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[29:36] Seeing none. Anybody online?
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[29:39] No. OK, Commissioners. Mr.
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[29:41] Chairman, I have my consent agenda.
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[29:43] At first, I believe with your approval,
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[29:47] I would like you to adopt
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[29:48] my consent agenda today,
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[29:49] which consists of eight items. So moved.
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[29:53] Second, All right, we have a motion.
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[29:55] And 2nd for your clerk or court consent
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[29:57] agenda, all those in favor say aye,
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[29:59] aye, opposed motion carries 50.
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[30:04] All right, moving down to our regular
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[30:07] consent agenda, Commissioners,
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[30:10] I make a motion for approval.
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[30:12] I'll second that.
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[30:13] All right, we have a motion and a
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[30:16] second to approve tabs three to 10.
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[30:19] All those in favor say aye, aye.
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[30:22] Opposed motion carries 50.
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[30:26] All right, so we are moving up to tab 27.
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[30:32] I believe it is.
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[30:40] Yes, Commissioner Parks, thank you.
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[30:44] Thank you, Chair.
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[30:45] Thanks for moving this up Ford.
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[30:47] We do have some guests that
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[30:48] are here this morning to,
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[30:49] to speak on the issue.
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[30:52] So we do, I think we have 4 out
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[30:53] of the five council members,
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[30:55] so I'll introduce them first,
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[30:56] if you don't mind.
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[30:57] Mayor Joe Winecoop, Council Member Jim Lay,
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[31:00] Councilwoman Carol Womack,
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[31:02] and Councilman Jim Peacock,
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[31:05] they are all here this morning
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[31:07] for this very important issue.
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[31:09] In just a moment, I'll,
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[31:10] I guess I'll respectfully ask Melanie and
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[31:13] Jennifer to provide their input and analysis.
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[31:16] But essentially what you have in
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[31:18] front of you today is where we are.
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[31:21] We'd like the town of Mont Verde,
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[31:24] the residents of Ferndale.
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[31:25] To be clear, it's not just Mont Verde.
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[31:27] It's many, many,
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[31:28] many of the residents of Ferndale as well.
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[31:31] And now I can say with certainty that
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[31:36] the council members from Claremont,
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[31:39] council members from Mineola
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[31:42] as well as Bella Colina,
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[31:43] who are all members of this ISBA have,
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[31:46] are in support of that.
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[31:48] I don't, I can't speak for them individually.
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[31:50] To be clear,
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[31:50] there might be council members,
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[31:52] they have not officially voted on
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[31:54] that with I think the exception of
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[31:56] Mont Verde has unanimously at their
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[31:58] council to request that we extend this
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[32:00] interlocal service boundary agreement.
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[32:02] But what I can tell you is that
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[32:04] there's great support for this
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[32:05] among all the signing agencies,
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[32:08] entities of the interlocal service
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[32:11] boundary agreement for Ferndale.
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[32:12] The request being to extend it to
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[32:15] protect that rural protection area.
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[32:17] It's the only one that's left in,
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[32:20] in my district, It's in South Lake County.
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[32:23] There's the Ferndale rural protection
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[32:25] area and then there's the Green
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[32:26] Swamp as well on the other side.
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[32:28] This is obviously on the, the,
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[32:30] the east side towards Lake Apopka,
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[32:32] as you know.
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[32:33] And so simply the request is,
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[32:36] is to extend that interlocal
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[32:38] service boundary agreement.
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[32:40] We're about to, it's either about,
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[32:43] we got about six or seven
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[32:45] years before it's renewed,
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[32:46] but they would like to extend
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[32:47] it an additional 13 years.
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[32:49] The thought is to extend it another
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[32:51] to make it another 20 years.
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[32:54] And it's, it's, it's pretty simple.
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[32:55] It's, it's essentially just to protect the,
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[32:58] the rural area of Ferndale.
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[33:02] I will give you my little bit of
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[33:05] history having been part of the,
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[33:07] the comp plan, good or bad back in,
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[33:09] back in the day, back in 2005 or 6 maybe.
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[33:14] And then, you know,
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[33:16] subsequent years after that
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[33:18] where we kind of looked at the,
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[33:20] the comprehensive plan for Lake County.
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[33:22] Ferndale always,
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[33:23] always has always been planned
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[33:25] to be a rural area.
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[33:28] Those people came out back then.
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[33:30] They've come out recently
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[33:31] at a meeting that I was at,
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[33:33] was able to attend the,
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[33:34] the mayor had put the meeting on it,
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[33:35] orchestrated,
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[33:36] kind of conducted it and we
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[33:39] had a packed house.
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[33:40] I think there may be some pictures
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[33:42] we'll show you of people very adamant,
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[33:44] very respectful and professional,
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[33:45] of course, but very sincere and
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[33:48] requesting that this be extended
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[33:51] out to protect that rural area.
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[33:54] So I think there's great support for it.
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[33:57] We're basically the last,
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[33:58] we could be the last entity to sign
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[34:01] it because it requires all four or
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[34:03] five of us to, to agree to do it.
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[34:06] And then it would be,
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[34:07] it would be enacted or or
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[34:10] extended another 13 years.
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[34:13] There's some, there's some language,
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[34:15] I think Melanie will go over this.
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[34:17] There's some language about making sure
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[34:19] that density is making it clear that that
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[34:23] density of one unit per five acre is,
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[34:25] is maintained and was with
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[34:27] is within that ISBA.
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[34:29] And of course, I'm supportive of
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[34:31] that as best as we can to do that.
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[34:34] Obviously,
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[34:35] anybody's always has their constitutional
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[34:37] right to make a request in the future.
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[34:39] And there may not be anything
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[34:40] we can do about that.
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[34:41] But we can put these assurances
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[34:43] in place to be consistent
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[34:45] with our comprehensive plan,
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[34:46] the way it has always been
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[34:49] envisioned and I think the way
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[34:50] people want it envisioned.
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[34:51] Now,
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[34:53] Melanie and Jennifer, OK,
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[34:55] before we get started,
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[34:56] Melanie, have you, I'm,
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[34:57] I'm sure you read all of this,
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[34:59] all this meets all the legalities.
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[35:04] So you're not actually
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[35:05] approving anything today.
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[35:06] This is only discussion and direction.
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[35:08] I've been working with the
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[35:10] city attorneys for Mineola,
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[35:12] Claremont and Mont Verde on wording
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[35:14] for this particular document.
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[35:16] The extension itself is not an issue.
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[35:18] I mean, obviously the parties can
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[35:20] agree to extend it for 13 years,
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[35:22] an additional 13 years.
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[35:24] So that would make its
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[35:25] termination date in 2043.
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[35:26] What we are working on is language
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[35:30] regarding the densities out there.
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[35:32] Some of the city attorneys are
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[35:34] concerned that the ISPA statute does
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[35:36] not allow you to lock in densities.
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[35:38] There is some legitimate concerns there.
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[35:40] So I will be meeting with them next week,
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[35:42] the city attorneys and we're going
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[35:44] to discuss if there's another
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[35:46] way that we can offer protection
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[35:48] without locking in densities.
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[35:49] As you know,
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[35:50] with the Burt Harris Act and
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[35:51] and other things of that nature,
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[35:52] we need to be very careful about
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[35:54] how we would word such a document.
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[36:00] OK, All right, thank you.
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[36:03] I have a few speaker cards that
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[36:06] would like to speak on this.
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[36:09] I will call the people in the audience
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[36:11] to hear and then we'll go online.
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[36:13] So we'll start off with Mr.
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[36:15] Tom Bust. Bust
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[36:33] Good morning Mr. Chairman Council,
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[36:35] my name is Tom Brust,
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[36:37] my address is 19132 bridges Glen Lane
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[36:42] and the only comment I wanted to make on
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[36:45] on the ISBA is it couple 2-3 years ago.
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[36:48] I forget the exact date.
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[36:49] I, I'm on the e-mail list for Lake
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[36:53] County and I got a real nice e-mail
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[36:55] explaining how the county Commission
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[36:57] met with the 12 or 14 largest
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[37:00] cities and towns within Lake County
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[37:02] to discuss how to control growth,
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[37:04] how to develop growth into,
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[37:06] to the extent that it,
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[37:08] it shares with our common
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[37:09] values of the rural community,
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[37:11] the the country feel of Lake County,
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[37:14] how to maintain that,
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[37:15] that feel for the growth coming that,
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[37:17] that we're approaching and growing into.
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[37:21] It's a very important topic.
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[37:22] I don't know what the outcome of
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[37:24] that meeting was what what steps were
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[37:26] taken between the 14 communities,
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[37:28] but it's clear that some of the
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[37:30] communities maybe not listen quite as well.
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[37:35] Our area is very is becoming encroached
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[37:37] upon by massive development and that's
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[37:40] the only thing the ISBA is trying to,
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[37:42] as you know, trying to curtail if we can.
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[37:45] The density is one of our biggest issues.
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[37:48] I think that's the most important
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[37:50] part of this whole ISBA,
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[37:52] how to control the density.
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[37:54] It's it's really very dense, but any help
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[37:57] on that would be greatly appreciated.
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[38:00] By knowing myself,
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[38:01] but everybody else within the Mineola,
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[38:04] I mean the Ferndale isba,
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[38:07] we like to keep it a rule, community rule
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[38:11] flavor that Lake County wants to enact.
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[38:15] I appreciate your time.
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[38:16] All right, thank you.
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[38:19] Rebecca Rd.
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[38:20] Good morning,
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[38:27] commissioners. My name is Rebecca Rude.
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[38:29] I'm actually here on behalf
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[38:31] of my husband and myself.
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[38:32] He had to work today and
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[38:33] many of our neighbors,
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[38:34] but I'm a Ferndale resident.
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[38:35] And just a quick little background,
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[38:37] I'm a native of Florida,
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[38:38] born and raised in Orlando,
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[38:39] so I love this state.
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[38:41] My husband's a native as well.
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[38:43] We moved out to Ferndale back in 2008.
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[38:47] So we've been here quite a while and
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[38:49] we've been very fortunate to be able
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[38:51] to purchase some land around our
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[38:52] property or the years and conserve it.
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[38:54] We have been able to leave
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[38:56] it natural for the wildlife,
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[38:58] for our neighbors and friends to enjoy.
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[39:00] And I'm here in 100% support of
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[39:04] the signing of the extension of
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[39:07] ISBAI think it's absolutely
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[39:10] necessary for our small community.
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[39:13] It's absolutely beautiful.
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[39:14] If you haven't seen it,
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[39:15] I invite you to come out and look at it.
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[39:17] Take a drive.
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[39:19] It's just there's nothing else like it.
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[39:21] And once it's gone, it's gone forever.
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[39:22] So thank you for your time.
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[39:26] OK, Thank you,
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[39:32] Paul Loreno.
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[39:38] Morning Commissioners. Thank you.
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[39:39] My name is Paul Loreno,
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[39:41] the town manager for Town of Mont Verde,
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[39:42] and I thank you for considering this.
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[39:44] I'm here on behalf of the Town
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[39:46] Council of Mont Verde and the
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[39:48] residents of Mont Verde area and
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[39:50] supported extending this for 13 years.
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[39:53] This agreement is really a collaborative
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[39:55] effort between Lake County,
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[39:57] the town of Mont Verde, town of Claremont,
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[39:59] and the town of Mineola and Bella Colina CDD.
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[40:03] Unlike typical ISBAS,
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[40:04] you see that really say this
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[40:07] city can annex this,
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[40:09] this city can annex that.
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[40:11] This one really says cities don't touch,
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[40:15] let's leave this area of rule in Lake County.
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[40:18] And rule's not a bad word.
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[40:21] It's what makes parts of great
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[40:23] Crown Lake County great.
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[40:25] It sets us apart from driving through
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[40:27] Orlando when you get to go through some
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[40:29] rural areas in between your cities,
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[40:30] unlike driving down 50 going toward Orlando.
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[40:35] I want to say one thing.
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[40:37] This development agree or
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[40:38] this ISBA does not take away
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[40:41] any owner's property rights.
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[40:43] It does not take away any
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[40:45] of their entitlements.
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[40:46] The entitlements and property rights
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[40:47] they have now are the same ones
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[40:49] they had ten years ago and the same
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[40:51] ones they all have moving forward.
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[40:53] So it preserves the existing
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[40:55] entitlement rights that they have.
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[40:59] We really support this because
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[41:00] it's just healthy for the area.
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[41:02] It's it's healthy for the
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[41:04] community to have green space.
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[41:06] The area is abundant with wildlife.
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[41:08] In this area you can find bears and otters,
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[41:12] Eagles, osprey, tortoises,
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[41:14] obviously everywhere,
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[41:16] and over 180 species of birds.
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[41:19] And if you think about the development
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[41:21] that's going on in South Lake County,
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[41:23] from the Grove,
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[41:24] from Mineola to Groveland to Claremont,
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[41:26] where's all this wildlife go?
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[41:28] Everything has gotten concreted
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[41:29] and we have this little patch of
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[41:32] area that stands between the cities
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[41:34] and Lake Apopka in this area not
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[41:37] only includes the wildlife and
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[41:39] includes several wetland areas,
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[41:40] several low lying areas,
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[41:42] huge historic large oak trees.
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[41:45] And it is a buffer from that density
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[41:49] before you get to Lake Apopka,
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[41:51] which we obviously are all working
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[41:53] trying to clean that waterway up because
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[41:55] it is the head water to everything
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[41:56] that flows through Lake County.
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[41:58] So I encourage your support of
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[42:01] this it it's a good agreement,
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[42:02] it's a collaborative agreement
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[42:04] and we we need to support some
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[42:07] areas that have lower density,
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[42:09] especially in South Lake because
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[42:10] it's getting rarer and rarer.
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[42:12] So thank you very much.
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[42:14] Appreciate your consideration.
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[42:15] OK,
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[42:15] Thank you.
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[42:18] Anita Carver.
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[42:23] Good morning, Commissioners.
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[42:23] Thank you for allowing us
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[42:25] to speak on this issue.
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[42:26] Want to thank the county Attorney's office
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[42:28] for working on the language with us.
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[42:31] The town of council in Montford
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[42:33] really does want to protect the
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[42:35] Ferndale Preserve and it's set forth
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[42:37] in the current version of the ISBA,
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[42:39] and we're looking to extend that.
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[42:41] The statute does say that unincorporated
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[42:44] areas that are identified in the ISBA
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[42:47] fall under the county's comprehensive
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[42:49] plan and land development regulations.
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[42:50] And that's what we're asking
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[42:52] to make clear to everyone.
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[42:54] It already provides that utilities
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[42:56] could not be extended into that area
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[42:58] without the party's agreement in
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[43:00] the county's consent to utilities.
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[43:02] So there's language in there.
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[43:04] We are just asking that it be
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[43:07] made clear that your comprehensive
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[43:09] plan as it currently exists,
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[43:12] would govern the Ferndale Preserve,
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[43:14] preserve that area.
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[43:16] And as Mr.
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[43:17] Loreno said, the council has no intention of
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[43:21] depriving anybody of their property rights.
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[43:23] We would just want to ensure that
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[43:25] your comp plan governs that area.
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[43:27] Thank you very much.
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[43:29] OK.
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[43:30] Thank you,
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[43:31] Miss Jane Hepting.
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[43:42] Good morning, Mr. Chairman.
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[43:45] Commissioners, my name is Jane Hepting.
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[43:47] I live in Lake County and I am president
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[43:49] of the Lake County Conservation Council,
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[43:52] which was founded in 1987 to protect
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[43:55] Lake County's natural resources.
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[43:57] One of our major goals is protecting our
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[44:01] rural protection areas from urban sprawl.
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[44:03] So we hope you will extend the
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[44:06] ISBA agreement to protect the
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[44:08] rural character of Ferndale.
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[44:10] Thank you. Thank you, Mr.
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[44:15] Greg Gingermeyer.
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[44:24] Good morning, Commissioners.
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[44:25] Every time I hear a a pause and a name,
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[44:27] I know it's it's my name that's coming up.
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[44:30] 15 years ago, Green Mountain Scenic Byway
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[44:34] and Friends of Ferndale got together
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[44:37] and we're really concerned that the
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[44:40] Ferndale area not qualifying as a,
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[44:42] as a town or a city are not able to
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[44:45] qualify as a town or a city municipality.
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[44:48] They, they were really worried that
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[44:49] they were just going to be disappearing.
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[44:51] And so we worked with the names I remember
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[44:55] were Fred and Wendy and Vaughn and Ed.
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[44:58] I don't know if any of those
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[44:59] are still around here now,
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[45:00] but that concern was there and
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[45:02] the concern is still there today.
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[45:04] I think I'm going to approach this
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[45:06] from a little bit different way and
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[45:08] that the concern is that the people in
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[45:10] Ferndale within this particular issue,
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[45:13] they don't have representation.
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[45:15] They have friends. They have.
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[45:16] And I know Mont Verde is fully,
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[45:18] fully behind it,
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[45:19] but they don't really have any friends.
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[45:21] And I think the only support that
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[45:23] they can truly gain,
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[45:24] and that support is by by way of voting
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[45:28] for the representatives is your counsel.
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[45:31] And they can't,
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[45:33] can't necessarily trust Mont Verde,
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[45:35] although I know Mont Verde's behind them.
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[45:36] They can't trust Claremont.
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[45:37] They can't trust Mineola and you know,
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[45:39] the CDD doesn't really have any effect.
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[45:41] They can't vote for any of those people.
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[45:44] And so because you,
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[45:45] because they are your constituents,
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[45:48] I think the idea of protecting those
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[45:50] people in Ferndale is really important.
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[45:53] Thank you.
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[45:58] Thank you, Mayor Wine Coop.
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[46:12] Hello. Thank you for having me here today.
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[46:13] I just wanted to make sure I've
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[46:17] told everybody that I'm very,
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[46:18] very in favor of this ISPA.
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[46:20] We put it together back in 2010
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[46:22] and just recently noticed it was
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[46:24] going to expire in six years.
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[46:25] So we wanted to bring it forward
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[46:27] right now and I think it'll do a lot
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[46:30] of good for the a lot of people.
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[46:32] What I'm handing to you right now
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[46:34] is pictures of our meetings that we
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[46:37] had so you can understand who was
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[46:39] there and also the paperwork that
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[46:44] everybody signed saying that they're
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[46:45] in favor of it that were there.
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[46:47] There's about 154 people there total
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[46:49] come and gone and they at that
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[46:53] represented a pretty big chunk of Ferndale,
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[46:56] probably 8085% of them.
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[46:57] We also got letter in there from
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[47:00] the Guy family who's one of the
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[47:02] bigger property owners there.
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[47:04] He owns 235 and one one 235 acres,
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[47:08] and then he also they own like
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[47:10] 40 or fifty others,
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[47:12] but he wanted to make a statement that
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[47:13] their family's never going to sell
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[47:15] that land and they're pretty much
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[47:17] settled in there for a long time.
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[47:20] So anyway, that's about it.
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[47:21] Everybody that's got up and talked
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[47:22] to you all is pretty much said,
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[47:24] but I was going to say I just want
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[47:26] to make sure you know that I we are
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[47:29] our council is in all favor of this.
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[47:31] ISPAI also want to add that Jennifer
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[47:33] and Fred doing an awesome job for us
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[47:35] when we asked him to help for help.
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[47:37] They do a great job and I appreciate them.
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[47:40] All right. Thank you, Miss Cindy Newton.
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[47:51] Good morning, Cindy Newton.
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[47:54] District Four. Well,
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[47:55] the Ferndale ISBA is in effect of 20-30.
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[47:58] It is coming up for and 2025
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[48:01] for a periodical review.
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[48:04] So it's a good time to be looking
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[48:07] at this for extension development
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[48:08] pressures high in all of our rural
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[48:11] protection areas as well as our rural
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[48:13] areas designated for very precise
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[48:15] controlled growth and intended to keep
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[48:17] these rural areas of rural character.
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[48:19] Protect our water supply with recharge,
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[48:21] protect our water quality with
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[48:23] less nutrient loading and protect
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[48:26] our vital environmental resources,
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[48:28] including our unique farmland soil
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[48:30] for a sustainable local food source.
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[48:34] Developments rapidly changing
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[48:35] the character of our countryside,
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[48:38] negatively affecting our rural communities,
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[48:40] diminishing the wildlife habitat,
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[48:43] increasing traffic,
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[48:44] negatively affecting established
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[48:46] communities in small towns,
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[48:49] and a host of other issues related
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[48:52] to this encroachment.
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[48:53] Extending this ISBA is a step that
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[48:55] can be taken to greatly show needed
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[48:58] support for all rural citizens of
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[49:01] Lake County, Not just burned out.
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[49:04] Being in nature reduces our stress,
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[49:06] anger, fear, increases pleasant feelings.
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[49:09] Exposure to these open natural areas not
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[49:12] only makes us feel better emotionally,
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[49:15] it also contributes to our
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[49:17] physical well-being,
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[49:18] reproduces blood pressure,
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[49:20] heart rate, muscle tension,
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[49:21] and the production of stress hormones.
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[49:25] While all ISBA should be reviewed as written,
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[49:29] it is our hope that this one will
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[49:31] not only be extended as written,
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[49:33] but it will be held up as a
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[49:35] template for incorporating more
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[49:37] protective language in the other
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[49:39] Isbas and comprehension plan,
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[49:41] which include the rural protection areas.
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[49:44] Thank you for your time.
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[49:48] OK, Thank you, Miss Newton.
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[49:51] Mr. Marty Proctor.
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[50:01] Good morning, Marty Proctor, 18225 Rose St.,
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[50:04] Groveland, FL, my address only,
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[50:07] and here's a private citizen.
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[50:09] I also live in rural Lake County.
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[50:12] I do not live in the city of Groveland.
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[50:14] And I really do appreciate the fact
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[50:16] that we have an outstanding sitting
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[50:18] commissioners and council right now
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[50:20] that are proactively going after
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[50:22] these kinds of agreements and getting
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[50:24] ahead of the curve on this.
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[50:26] It makes me proud to be a citizen.
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[50:27] It makes me proud to be
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[50:28] represented by the five of you.
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[50:30] So thank you very much for that.
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[50:31] And ultimately what we need
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[50:34] here is we need more Ferndales,
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[50:36] we need more Umatillas,
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[50:38] we need more Yolahas.
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[50:40] We do not need another Mineola.
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[50:41] We have one of those now.
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[50:43] So that would be my suggestion would be to
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[50:46] keep them the way they are as much as we can.
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[50:48] Thank you very much for
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[50:49] representing us so well.
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[50:51] OK, thank you.
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[50:52] That's all the cards I have.
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[50:54] Anybody else in the I just
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[50:55] want to speak on this issue.
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[50:57] Come on up.
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[50:58] Please state your name and
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[51:00] address for the record.
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[51:05] I apologize. I turned in a card,
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[51:06] so maybe it'll show up later on in
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[51:08] the and it's somewhere around here.
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[51:11] Nathan Fosch, most of you know me.
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[51:13] Chairman, commissioners, staff.
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[51:14] Thank you for giving me a moment.
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[51:17] I've been to several of these meetings.
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[51:19] I can tell you that the
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[51:20] people that own this property.
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[51:22] Oh, there we go.
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[51:23] See, I wasn't lying.
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[51:26] Mr. Nathan, please come up. Thank you.
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[51:30] So I've been to several of these
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[51:32] meetings and the residents clearly
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[51:34] do not want the growth. You know,
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[51:36] Mineola started this growth in the 90s.
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[51:40] This is not new. All of you know,
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[51:42] these developers take many years.
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[51:44] They think in decades,
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[51:45] not in months and years, decades,
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[51:47] multiple decades. So some say,
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[51:50] why are we looking at renewing this now?
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[51:52] We still have six years,
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[51:53] seven years, whatever it is.
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[51:55] But the developers that's now,
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[51:58] they're looking now to buy this land.
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[52:00] They're looking now to see
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[52:01] who they can get to sell,
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[52:03] to move and develop that land.
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[52:05] So you need to do this now to let
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[52:08] them know this is not for development,
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[52:10] that this is rural.
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[52:11] So it's a today issue, not a tomorrow issue.
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[52:15] Mineola, as he stated, right?
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[52:17] We are growing faster than
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[52:18] I think most of us want.
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[52:20] We're dealing with sins of the past.
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[52:22] But we are literally
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[52:25] wrapping around Ferndale.
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[52:26] Pretty soon you will not be able to
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[52:28] get to Ferndale unless you do it by
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[52:30] boat and without going through Mineola.
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[52:32] So we've got to make sure
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[52:34] we put that defense up.
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[52:35] We've got to extend this.
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[52:37] I encourage you all to be in favor of this.
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[52:39] I can tell you at the Ferndale meeting,
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[52:41] a lot of my ex residents
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[52:43] from Sugarloaf are there.
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[52:45] They would like an ISBA right there
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[52:47] staring down the barrel of this
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[52:49] development as well and trying
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[52:51] to figure out how to protect it.
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[52:53] The last thing I want to say,
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[52:54] I've told those that are here
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[52:55] speaking at at the Ferndale meeting,
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[52:57] and I'll say it here publicly,
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[52:59] the best way to keep development from
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[53:01] growing into rural is don't sell your rural.
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[53:04] They don't steal your land,
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[53:06] they buy it.
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[53:07] If you don't want development in your area,
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[53:09] come up with plans on how not
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[53:11] to sell your land to developers.
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[53:13] I sold my acreage to a family that
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[53:15] at least told me they intend to stay
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[53:18] there and make it a family place.
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[53:20] I did not sell the developers and that
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[53:23] and your defense and extending the
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[53:24] ISBA will help us keep this world.
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[53:27] Thank you very much.
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[53:28] OK, thank you.
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[53:30] All right.
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[53:31] Anybody else in the audience
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[53:35] seeing none? I'm closing the
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[53:36] public comments to the audience.
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[53:38] Anybody online that like
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[53:39] to speak on this issue?
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[53:42] Really. OK, Nobody online.
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[53:44] Commissioner Parks, yeah,
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[53:46] just thank you and I appreciate
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[53:48] everybody that showed up today.
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[53:49] And I'm just to recap a couple
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[53:51] of great points that were
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[53:52] bought up by various speakers.
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[53:54] Want to first point out sort
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[53:56] of the big picture here.
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[53:57] And if you look on the screen,
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[53:59] this is the Ferndale Rural
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[54:01] Protection area and its entirety.
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[54:02] And you see up in the,
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[54:04] in the in my left hand corner,
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[54:06] you see where the development is,
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[54:07] that's Mineola and look how close it is.
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[54:11] So you will also see on this map that
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[54:16] is the current entitlement you see.
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[54:17] What do you see there?
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[54:18] You see one unit per five acres.
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[54:21] You don't see PU DS that may have
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[54:24] some uncertainty as to, you know,
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[54:26] some kind of entitlement from way,
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[54:27] way back in the day.
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[54:29] There's no,
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[54:30] there's it's pretty clear
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[54:31] this is one unit per 5 acres.
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[54:34] Many of the land owners were there,
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[54:35] including the largest landowner,
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[54:36] the Guy family.
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[54:37] You have the letter, a copy of that.
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[54:39] Where can you point out
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[54:40] where the Guy property is?
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[54:41] Yeah.
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[54:41] So if you look on the the left more,
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[54:44] this is a little sideways here,
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[54:46] but you see the the Ferndale
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[54:48] Conservation area here,
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[54:49] Ferndale Preserve,
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[54:49] you go towards what would be my left,
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[54:53] the where the Green Mountain
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[54:54] Scenic Conway comes through.
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[54:55] There's some larger tracts of land look
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[54:57] like little 40 acre blocks that are all
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[55:00] kind of pieced together through here.
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[55:01] That is,
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[55:02] that is.
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[55:02] So when you're like driving that
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[55:04] and you look over and you can kind
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[55:05] of see what's happening in Mineola,
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[55:07] you see a little bit like that's it,
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[55:10] That's it goes all the way up to to the back.
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[55:12] And at one time there was a,
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[55:14] there was supposed to be a 300
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[55:15] foot buffer or, or 100 foot out,
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[55:17] to be clear, could be 100, could be 300.
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[55:19] But there was a much larger buffer
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[55:22] planned between Mineola and that area.
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[55:25] This part of Ferndale that had sensed it's,
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[55:27] it's 25 feet now.
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[55:29] So you have that density,
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[55:31] 4-5 units per acre from Mineola
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[55:34] literally on the line of the
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[55:36] Ferndale Preserve or the
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[55:38] Ferndale Rural Protection area.
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[55:41] And this has come up to Mont
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[55:45] Verts Credit very concerned,
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[55:47] obviously about what happens
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[55:49] as they eloquently stated.
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[55:51] And Nathan just said it sort of too,
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[55:54] because there's been interest,
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[55:57] there's sincere like real interest
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[56:00] from development within these
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[56:02] within these parts of Ferndale.
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[56:04] That's why all this has come up
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[56:06] and the desire to go ahead and,
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[56:08] you know, extend the extend the ISBA.
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[56:14] So you'll see that the
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[56:16] turn out from the meeting.
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[56:18] I thought it was well attended.
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[56:19] As a side sort of a side note,
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[56:21] I would love for the county to go
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[56:22] out to Ferndale at some point.
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[56:24] Can you pull that picture up of the meeting?
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[56:27] I believe it was here online that I saw it.
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[56:30] It's definitely in our packet.
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[56:31] It's in our, it's in our,
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[56:31] it's in our packet. Yeah.
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[56:33] So you see, you know, you know,
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[56:36] you see a good crowd there.
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[56:38] They were.
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[56:38] They were all extremely
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[56:40] supportive of extending this
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[56:41] and they're all property owners.
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[56:43] There was some,
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[56:44] there was some people from Sugarloaf
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[56:46] Mountain that were there as well,
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[56:48] but they're all property owners
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[56:49] that were part of this meeting.
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[56:51] So I'm not sure.
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[56:52] I don't think I quite understand exactly how
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[56:56] this would affect somebody's proper right,
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[56:58] the proper rights.
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[56:59] I do appreciate attorneys perspective.
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[57:00] They're trying to protect us.
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[57:03] I'm not sure I understand it fully.
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[57:05] If it's you're just declaring that it is
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[57:06] what it is and you're extending the ISBA,
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[57:08] but you're making it clear that
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[57:11] it's one unit for five acres.
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[57:13] If there's if there's some rewarding
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[57:14] we have to do for that, I understand.
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[57:16] I think it's I think it's more
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[57:18] from the other attorneys.
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[57:20] But yeah, so just a couple of things.
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[57:23] This map is labeled the
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[57:24] Ferndale Rural Protection Area.
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[57:26] Just to clarify for the record,
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[57:28] Ferndale is not a rural protection
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[57:30] area as defined in our comp plan.
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[57:33] Ferndale is a special community.
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[57:35] There are different policies that
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[57:37] apply to rural protection areas
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[57:39] that do not apply to Ferndale.
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[57:41] So going forward when you get
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[57:42] ready to redo your comp plan,
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[57:44] which we know is coming in
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[57:46] the next year or so,
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[57:47] if you want to designate it
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[57:49] as a world protection area,
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[57:50] you need to do that at that time.
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[57:52] So it is a special community, not an RPA.
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[57:55] So all of those policies in the
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[57:57] RPA that we have for Wekiva,
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[57:59] Ocala and those areas do not
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[58:01] apply because this is not an RPA.
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[58:04] So just I just want to clarify
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[58:05] that because we have had a lot of
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[58:07] confusion over the past year with
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[58:08] people wanting to know what's our pay RPA,
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[58:10] what's not.
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[58:11] This is not as far as the issue
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[58:15] with property rights.
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[58:17] So the current ISBA doesn't lock the density.
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[58:21] It says that cities cannot annex
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[58:23] into Ferndale and Ferndale.
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[58:25] And the area defined on the map
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[58:27] is governed under Lake County's
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[58:29] comprehensive plan,
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[58:29] which is the world designation of
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[58:31] one to five and a conservation,
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[58:33] of course, which is the county park.
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[58:35] So we have to be careful when we go
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[58:38] forward that we don't incorporate
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[58:40] something into the ISBA that then
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[58:42] ties your hands when you are trying
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[58:44] to redo your comprehensive plan.
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[58:46] So you don't want to lock densities.
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[58:49] That's also where you may end
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[58:51] up with people making claims.
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[58:53] Whether they have valid claims or not,
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[58:55] it's a different story.
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[58:56] It is still very costly to defend
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[58:58] when people file claims when
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[59:00] they're claiming either at taking
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[59:02] a property or the lesser taking
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[59:04] concept of the Burt Harris Act.
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[59:06] You still have to spend money
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[59:08] to defend against those claims.
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[59:10] So that's what I have to work
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[59:11] out with the city attorneys.
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[59:13] We have to find a wording that's going
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[59:15] to balance what you want to accomplish
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[59:17] with not impacting property rights.
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[59:19] Because currently anybody in this
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[59:20] area can come into the county and
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[59:23] they can submit an application
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[59:24] to amend the comprehensive plan.
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[59:26] If you say in your ISBA that this
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[59:29] must always be rural at 1:00 to 5:00,
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[59:32] then you potentially impact
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[59:33] somebody's property rights,
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[59:35] the right to come in and apply and present
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[59:37] to you a case to do something different.
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[59:39] So you are then governing your
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[59:41] comp plan by an external document.
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[59:44] So those are the things that we have
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[59:46] to work through before we bring this
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[59:48] back for any type of formal action.
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[59:50] Can can we do something similar
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[59:53] to the Groveland JPA?
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[59:54] So it's annexation I think is the issue,
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[59:56] right.
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[59:57] So, so if, if, if,
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[59:59] if you're a landowner and you
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[1:00:01] want to annex into Groveland,
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[1:00:04] the Groveland JPA and gets published finally,
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[1:00:07] it's going to say you have to
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[1:00:10] follow the county comp plan,
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[1:00:12] right?
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[1:00:12] So,
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[1:00:13] so,
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[1:00:13] so there's no point to annex into
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[1:00:15] the city of Groveland if you're in
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[1:00:17] the Green Swamp because you're not
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[1:00:19] going to get any more entitlements
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[1:00:21] in the county would have gotten you.
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[1:00:23] Doesn't that solve it?
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[1:00:26] Possibly that actual language.
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[1:00:27] I don't recall being in the Groveland JPA,
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[1:00:31] but we've got to go back and look at it.
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[1:00:33] I believe right now I'm,
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[1:00:34] I'm waiting on Groveland to
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[1:00:35] submit a revised draft.
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[1:00:36] So it may be something they've added
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[1:00:38] and I just haven't seen it yet.
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[1:00:40] I with the with the city decides to do,
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[1:00:44] if we agree in a JPA that the city
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[1:00:46] is going to set their comp plan to
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[1:00:48] some particular requirement and
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[1:00:49] somebody annexes in and they can,
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[1:00:51] they're only available for those categories.
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[1:00:53] You can do that,
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[1:00:54] but it's not the county comp plan is
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[1:00:56] not going to govern in a city boundary.
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[1:00:58] So if we agree with Groveland or any
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[1:01:00] other city that our densities will
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[1:01:03] apply whether somebody's annexed or not,
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[1:01:05] they have to adjust their
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[1:01:07] comprehensive plan to create those
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[1:01:09] categories to recognize those uses.
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[1:01:12] The
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[1:01:14] I appreciate you pointing out
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[1:01:15] and changing the name is fine.
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[1:01:17] And I think if you look at the map,
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[1:01:18] the Frontier Rd.
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[1:01:19] protection area in the comp plan,
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[1:01:21] there's some confusion because they reference
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[1:01:23] it as a rural area in the special area.
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[1:01:25] So if we had to get that cleared up,
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[1:01:26] that's fine. I'm not proposing
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[1:01:28] to be clear to change the map.
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[1:01:30] The rural, the rural,
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[1:01:31] whether you call it a special area,
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[1:01:33] rural protection area, that's fine.
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[1:01:35] So I wanted to make that clear too.
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[1:01:37] It's not a that area. Yeah.
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[1:01:38] And, and my clarification is more
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[1:01:40] for the public because there are
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[1:01:42] some folks that are very attuned
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[1:01:44] into when you say the word RPA,
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[1:01:46] it means something very,
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[1:01:48] very specific.
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[1:01:49] So this is not an RPA under our plan,
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[1:01:52] doesn't say it can't be,
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[1:01:54] it doesn't say that it's not protected.
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[1:01:56] It's just that has a very specific meaning
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[1:01:58] to some groups out in the community
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[1:02:00] that follow these types of issues.
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[1:02:02] We might want to look at the
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[1:02:03] comp plan because I think they,
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[1:02:04] and some of the rural areas,
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[1:02:05] they do reference the rural,
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[1:02:06] they, they reference the mountain,
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[1:02:08] the Ferndale rural protection,
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[1:02:09] a rural special area as a,
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[1:02:11] as a rural area, the,
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[1:02:13] the Ferndale special area
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[1:02:14] as a rural protection area.
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[1:02:16] So, yeah, so we have lots of inconsistencies.
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[1:02:20] Yeah.
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[1:02:20] So that I mean, that's how that map was made.
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[1:02:22] But yeah,
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[1:02:25] OK. And yeah, All right.
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[1:02:27] I think that's my my question now.
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[1:02:29] I got a question for the attorney
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[1:02:31] though on the Bert Harris issue.
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[1:02:32] If we were to let's just say we
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[1:02:35] don't wait for the comp plan,
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[1:02:36] all the changes that we're going
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[1:02:38] to be working on in the future,
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[1:02:39] we go ahead and let's just go
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[1:02:41] ahead and make this a rural
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[1:02:43] protection area and put those added,
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[1:02:45] you know that added language in there.
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[1:02:48] Is that a trigger for somebody then
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[1:02:50] to challenge us on Burt Harris?
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[1:02:52] Anytime you're changing your
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[1:02:54] comp plan or your LD Rs,
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[1:02:56] you could certainly trigger a claim.
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[1:02:59] The nice thing though is that we're
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[1:03:00] hearing that a lot of the people
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[1:03:02] that came to the meetings and
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[1:03:03] particularly the large land owners,
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[1:03:05] they seem to be on board.
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[1:03:06] So it could be that we work with them
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[1:03:09] and we do it more as a joint change,
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[1:03:13] not coming from the county,
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[1:03:16] but more as a grassroots application.
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[1:03:19] Yeah.
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[1:03:19] And again,
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[1:03:20] I'm not sure because as long as we
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[1:03:23] have a comp plan that is always,
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[1:03:25] somebody will always have the ability
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[1:03:27] to walk in with an AT and have submit
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[1:03:29] an application to get a land use change,
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[1:03:31] whether it's in a city or the county.
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[1:03:35] I mean, none of us up here,
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[1:03:37] ostensibly the answer is going to be no,
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[1:03:38] sorry.
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[1:03:39] You can put your application in,
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[1:03:40] but there's no chance we're
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[1:03:41] ever going to consider it.
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[1:03:42] I think that's where the rub comes
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[1:03:43] like if we actually have something
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[1:03:45] an official says this always has
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[1:03:46] to be one unit of five acres,
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[1:03:48] somebody puts an application in and we say,
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[1:03:51] no,
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[1:03:51] we have this rule that says it can
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[1:03:52] always has to be one unit, 5 acres.
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[1:03:53] I think that's might might be
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[1:03:55] what the concern is that that
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[1:03:57] triggers the Burt Harris,
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[1:03:59] you know that aren't we saying that
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[1:04:01] anyway with the rural protection areas?
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[1:04:03] Well, yes and no.
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[1:04:06] I mean,
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[1:04:06] the rural protection areas
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[1:04:08] don't necessarily set density
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[1:04:11] because that's an overlay.
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[1:04:12] You still have underlying comp plan.
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[1:04:14] Some of them have rural one to five,
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[1:04:16] some are have rural transition,
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[1:04:19] which gives you some flexibility
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[1:04:20] that the RPA is an overlay.
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[1:04:22] But I,
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[1:04:23] I think ultimately I and the city
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[1:04:26] attorneys are going to work towards
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[1:04:28] some language that will get you
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[1:04:30] hopefully where you would like to
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[1:04:32] be and protect the county and the
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[1:04:33] cities from any type of future claim.
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[1:04:37] So the purpose for this meeting is
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[1:04:39] just to give you direction on what we,
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[1:04:42] the board want you to go after, correct.
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[1:04:46] I, we anticipate bringing something
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[1:04:48] back in July for board approval.
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[1:04:50] And just to reiterate though,
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[1:04:51] if there's any chance you can get
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[1:04:53] property owners on board and you can
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[1:04:55] actually designate it in such a way,
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[1:04:57] I mean, maybe that's something
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[1:04:58] to look at in the future.
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[1:05:00] But there's no question when you make this
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[1:05:02] drive and you drive through this area,
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[1:05:04] it is like a breath of fresh air.
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[1:05:06] It's just gorgeous.
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[1:05:07] And that property in particular we
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[1:05:09] were talking about where you kind of
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[1:05:10] look over the horizon and you see
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[1:05:12] that and you just think to yourself,
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[1:05:14] I hope that never changes because it's,
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[1:05:16] it's just, it's beautiful.
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[1:05:19] And we have the Ferndale or the
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[1:05:23] scenic overlook there, which is being,
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[1:05:27] you know, it's,
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[1:05:29] it's being enlarged and it's
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[1:05:30] going to be higher.
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[1:05:31] It's going to be that's
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[1:05:32] going to be incredible.
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[1:05:33] So this is definitely long
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[1:05:35] after we are all gone.
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[1:05:37] This potentially can be one of
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[1:05:39] those places that people in Lake
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[1:05:41] County and people from all over
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[1:05:42] will talk about if we do this right.
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[1:05:45] So I definitely want to say thank
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[1:05:47] you to the town of Mont Verde and as
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[1:05:49] well as many on Claremont and for
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[1:05:51] the residents for getting on board.
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[1:05:53] And it's exciting and maybe maybe some
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[1:05:56] of the other cities that see this,
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[1:05:59] that have some of these same types
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[1:06:02] of attributes, we'll,
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[1:06:03] we'll look at this as an opportunity
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[1:06:05] to actually use an ISBA for a
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[1:06:09] alternative purpose than than what it
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[1:06:11] has typically been used for in the past.
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[1:06:13] So thank you.
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[1:06:15] OK, Commissioner Blake, yeah.
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[1:06:17] I mean,
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[1:06:18] so we're just supposed to provide direction.
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[1:06:19] I don't feel like I have enough of a grasp
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[1:06:22] on the implications to provide direction.
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[1:06:24] I'm, you know,
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[1:06:25] I'll have to sit down with Melanie
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[1:06:26] and talk about some things.
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[1:06:28] Why the 20 years?
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[1:06:29] Why the 13 years that that's the furthest
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[1:06:31] out it can go as a 20 year extension,
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[1:06:33] I believe so.
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[1:06:34] I believe the statute only allows 20 years.
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[1:06:36] So if there's six years left,
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[1:06:37] is the idea just every year
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[1:06:39] extended out to the maximum 20?
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[1:06:41] You see what I'm saying?
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[1:06:41] Six years is a long time.
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[1:06:43] So I'm just wondering why,
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[1:06:44] why at this moment to do that?
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[1:06:46] It's a signal to developers that might
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[1:06:48] be looking at the property to go,
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[1:06:49] Oh no,
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[1:06:50] these three governments have
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[1:06:51] decided that this is really the
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[1:06:52] direction we want this to go.
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[1:06:54] But is that a signal that's going
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[1:06:55] to be sent out every year that
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[1:06:56] we're going to extend this 20 years,
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[1:06:57] 20 years, 20 years?
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[1:06:58] I just, I don't, I don't think so.
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[1:07:00] I mean, I guess that in theory could happen.
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[1:07:03] But no, I think they just,
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[1:07:04] I think it's just to extend it
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[1:07:06] 20 years to as well said.
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[1:07:07] I mean,
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[1:07:08] it's just sort of a
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[1:07:09] it's the four of us entities saying,
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[1:07:12] you know, the people we represent,
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[1:07:13] this is the vision for this area and
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[1:07:15] we want to continue with that vision.
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[1:07:18] Yeah, I'll just say this.
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[1:07:19] And I'm not comfortable providing
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[1:07:21] direction because it's something I
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[1:07:23] feel like I need to understand better.
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[1:07:25] But I've said this before and I just caution
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[1:07:28] everyone that I love rural, beautiful,
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[1:07:31] scenic property as much as anybody.
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[1:07:34] But the assumption seems to become that you,
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[1:07:37] there's this, there's this right,
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[1:07:39] this fundamental right to a
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[1:07:41] view of someone else's property.
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[1:07:43] And that's, that doesn't exist.
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[1:07:44] That right does not exist.
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[1:07:46] And so I want to be very careful
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[1:07:47] that we're protecting the individual
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[1:07:49] property rights and completely agreed
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[1:07:50] with your comments that you can,
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[1:07:52] you're free to sell it to somebody
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[1:07:53] that that's going to do what
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[1:07:54] you want to do with it.
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[1:07:55] That's that's a private transaction.
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[1:07:58] But you have to be really careful
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[1:08:00] to try to lock in because, you know,
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[1:08:02] if you think it's beautiful at 1:00 to 5:00,
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[1:08:04] imagine how beautiful it was at zero to five,
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[1:08:06] right?
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[1:08:06] But everybody still built a
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[1:08:07] house and developed out there.
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[1:08:09] And so you just have to be very careful
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[1:08:10] about the property rights aspect of it,
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[1:08:11] which is which is my concern why I'm not
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[1:08:14] comfortable saying yay or nay today.
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[1:08:18] Can I just mention, though,
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[1:08:19] that I think that's why it's so
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[1:08:20] important for it to be a collaboration,
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[1:08:21] because I think then it addresses
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[1:08:23] those issues of property rights.
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[1:08:25] And, you know,
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[1:08:26] if everybody decides this is what we're
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[1:08:27] going to try to do together, that's the key.
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[1:08:30] Yeah.
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[1:08:30] And and there was some, most of those people,
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[1:08:34] there were property owners and very,
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[1:08:36] very clear message.
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[1:08:38] They're involved, right.
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[1:08:39] But there were property owners
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[1:08:40] who owned it before then,
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[1:08:41] right?
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[1:08:42] And at some point they developed the
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[1:08:43] property and I'm sure there were
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[1:08:44] tons of people not happy about that.
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[1:08:46] So my point is just that you can't
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[1:08:48] just you can't just think this is a
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[1:08:50] snapshot in time. And that's great.
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[1:08:52] And I completely agree.
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[1:08:52] It's beautiful drive through the but
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[1:08:54] you have to think of future property
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[1:08:55] owners in the impact on them as well.
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[1:08:56] I agree.
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[1:08:57] But they, you know, they,
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[1:08:58] they bought with a one to five entitlement.
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[1:09:00] They knew what they were,
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[1:09:01] they were getting into and that's
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[1:09:02] what they wanted.
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[1:09:03] And that's it would continue that way.
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[1:09:04] Wouldn't prohibit somebody from
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[1:09:06] selling it for to 1:00 to 5:00 or some
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[1:09:09] special exception to come in in the future.
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[1:09:12] And, you know, to be clear, again,
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[1:09:13] nobody's, none of us want to die.
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[1:09:15] Anybody's constitutional rights on that.
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[1:09:17] That's to be clear.
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[1:09:18] They'll be, they'll be due process
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[1:09:19] and and a system to do that.
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[1:09:21] Yeah.
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[1:09:21] And like I said,
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[1:09:22] I just want to make sure I fully understand
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[1:09:24] the implications before I weigh in.
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[1:09:28] OK. So I don't have a problem
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[1:09:32] given direction of where we want
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[1:09:34] to go because Melanie's going
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[1:09:36] to bring them back to us anyway.
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[1:09:38] You're talking about property rights.
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[1:09:41] The person that currently owns
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[1:09:44] the land currently has all the
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[1:09:47] property rights to that land.
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[1:09:49] If that person wants to make
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[1:09:51] it 1 to 20 or 1:00 to 5:00,
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[1:09:53] then he should be able to.
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[1:09:55] He or she should be able to do that
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[1:09:58] as they currently own the land today.
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[1:10:01] So I like your idea of maybe encouraging
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[1:10:04] all the property owners out there
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[1:10:07] to come to a collaborative agreement
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[1:10:09] to what you want and then let the
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[1:10:12] attorney and the state attorney
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[1:10:14] and Ferndale come to an agreement.
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[1:10:18] So how would you like to move?
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[1:10:20] Yeah, I think the, you know,
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[1:10:22] if I were to make a motion,
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[1:10:23] if that's even needed,
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[1:10:24] but it would be to direct,
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[1:10:27] direct staff to bring us,
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[1:10:30] bring us something to advertise in
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[1:10:33] ordinance to advertise to extend
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[1:10:35] the ISBA for another 13 years.
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[1:10:38] And then also,
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[1:10:40] assuming that you're going to work,
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[1:10:41] Melanie's going to work with the
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[1:10:43] other attorneys to craft the language
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[1:10:45] to make it clear that the intent
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[1:10:47] is to protect that that density,
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[1:10:49] but also protect the property
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[1:10:51] rights there as well. That's OK.
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[1:10:55] We have a motion and a second.
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[1:10:56] The only thing I would like to ask in
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[1:11:00] that motion is she's going to bring
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[1:11:02] it back to us, correct? Correct.
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[1:11:04] Yeah. OK. Was that in your motion?
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[1:11:07] That's my motion. OK, All right.
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[1:11:10] We have a motion to need to
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[1:11:11] 2nd any further discussion.
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[1:11:13] All those in favor say aye, aye, opposed aye.
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[1:11:17] Motion carries 41.
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[1:11:20] OK, thank you all.
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[1:11:21] Thank you.
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[1:11:22] We're going to we're going to take,
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[1:11:24] I'm assuming some of y'all are y'all
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[1:11:26] going to stay for the wonderful
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[1:11:28] presentations we have today?
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[1:11:30] You could stay for the land acquisition
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[1:11:33] referendum in the comp plan.
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[1:11:34] We'll give a 5 minute break and then
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[1:11:36] we'll come back and well, I won't leave,
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[1:11:38] but in 5 minutes, we'll be coming back.
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[1:11:40] Thank you.
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[1:11:41] Appreciate it.
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[1:11:48] Thanks. Recording stopped.
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[1:20:33] OK. We're back in session.
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[1:20:37] We're coming down to our presentations.
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[1:20:40] And what a fantastic segue from
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[1:20:43] my last tab to this tab Mr.
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[1:20:45] Mike Fitzgerald,
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[1:20:46] Director of Planning and Zoning.
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[1:20:53] Good morning. Thank you, Chairman.
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[1:20:55] Commissioners for the record,
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[1:20:57] Mike Fitzgerald,
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[1:20:58] Office of Planning and Zoning Director,
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[1:21:00] as an introduction to this item,
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[1:21:02] the Lake County Comprehensive Plan
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[1:21:04] became effective on September 22nd, 2011.
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[1:21:08] Florida Statutes requires that at
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[1:21:10] least once every seven years that
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[1:21:13] each local government evaluate its
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[1:21:14] comprehensive plan to determine if the,
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[1:21:16] if any amendments are necessary.
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[1:21:19] On June 15th, 2022,
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[1:21:22] the county awarded a contract
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[1:21:24] to Kanan and Associates,
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[1:21:26] which subsequently became Kim Lee
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[1:21:28] Horn and Associates to evaluate our
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[1:21:31] comprehensive plan and they have
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[1:21:33] done so and determined that there
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[1:21:35] are certain amendments that are
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[1:21:36] necessary and they have some other
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[1:21:39] recommendations to be made as well.
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[1:21:41] With that,
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[1:21:42] I will introduce Nathan Milch
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[1:21:44] and Eliza Giuliano.
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[1:21:46] And with the Board's permission,
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[1:21:47] I'll turn the presentation over to them.
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[1:21:56] Good morning, chair and Commissioners.
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[1:21:58] Thank you for having me here today.
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[1:22:00] I'm Eliza Harris Juliano.
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[1:22:01] I'm joined by Nathan Milt,
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[1:22:03] who's I may call on during Q&A
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[1:22:06] depending on what the questions are.
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[1:22:08] I apologize.
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[1:22:09] Is there a slide remote here?
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[1:22:20] And indeed what a what a great
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[1:22:22] segue for this presentation.
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[1:22:23] As was mentioned, we are here
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[1:22:26] to talk about the comprehensive
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[1:22:27] plan and basically two tranches.
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[1:22:29] There is the required updates as
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[1:22:31] part of the evaluation and appraisal
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[1:22:33] process and then additional
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[1:22:35] recommendations that start to address
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[1:22:37] some of the the bigger picture
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[1:22:39] questions that Lake County is going
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[1:22:41] to be facing over the coming years.
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[1:22:43] As Mike mentioned,
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[1:22:44] the evaluation and appraisal
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[1:22:46] process is a required state process.
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[1:22:48] It happens every seven years.
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[1:22:50] Not everyone is significant.
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[1:22:52] Sometimes it's just kind of a box
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[1:22:55] checking exercise to deal with changes
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[1:22:57] that have happened in the Florida Statutes.
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[1:22:59] But it always requires taking a
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[1:23:00] a good look at the comprehensive
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[1:23:02] plan and making sure that it's
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[1:23:04] dealing with the issues that are
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[1:23:06] current for the community today.
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[1:23:07] And one other important point,
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[1:23:09] the the letter which essentially
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[1:23:11] said there are needed updates
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[1:23:13] because the state requires certain
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[1:23:15] updates was sent on May 1st.
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[1:23:17] We are the county is required to
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[1:23:19] make amendments to deal with those
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[1:23:21] core updates within one year.
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[1:23:23] And then there's the ability to make
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[1:23:25] other updates to respond to local conditions.
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[1:23:28] So currently the county has a population
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[1:23:31] of a little over 400,000 by 2030
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[1:23:34] that's anticipated to be just under
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[1:23:38] 480,000 and ultimately by 20 fifty 566,000.
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[1:23:42] And of course not all of that is in
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[1:23:45] the unincorporated area which the
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[1:23:46] which the comp plan primarily governs,
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[1:23:49] but about 1/3 of it is in
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[1:23:51] the unincorporated area.
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[1:23:54] So we took a little bit of a
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[1:23:56] snapshot of local conditions.
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[1:23:57] We know that economic development
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[1:23:59] is a concern for the county,
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[1:24:00] so we looked at the top industries
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[1:24:02] today which are healthcare,
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[1:24:03] social assistance,
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[1:24:04] retail, and food service.
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[1:24:06] One thing I want to key on in on
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[1:24:08] here is the median sales price
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[1:24:09] for single family homes. That's
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[1:24:13] $363,000. What does that actually mean?
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[1:24:16] For some people that might sound like a lot.
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[1:24:18] For some people it might not
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[1:24:19] sound like not that much.
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[1:24:20] But what it means from a practical
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[1:24:22] standpoint for the citizens of Lake
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[1:24:23] County is about 30% of homeowners
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[1:24:25] are considered cost burdened.
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[1:24:27] That means they spend more than
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[1:24:28] 30% of their income on housing.
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[1:24:30] When you start to look at renters,
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[1:24:32] it's even higher.
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[1:24:33] Over 50% of renters are
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[1:24:34] considered cost burden.
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[1:24:35] So Lake County is starting
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[1:24:37] to see the impacts of growth
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[1:24:39] in terms of housing cost.
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[1:24:43] I mentioned there are state required
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[1:24:45] amendments based on updates
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[1:24:46] with with the florist statutes.
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[1:24:48] Most of those are fairly straightforward.
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[1:24:49] The Department of Health is going
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[1:24:51] to be monitoring has is handing
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[1:24:53] over the monitoring of septic
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[1:24:54] tank systems to the Department of
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[1:24:56] Environmental Protection and that
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[1:24:57] requires changes to several elements.
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[1:25:00] There's also amendments required
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[1:25:02] because the county is trying to enable
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[1:25:06] solar facilities both in agricultural
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[1:25:08] areas as well as floating solar.
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[1:25:11] So the amendments you see on this slide
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[1:25:13] are also dealing again with that septic
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[1:25:16] tank change and those solar facilities
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[1:25:19] as well as other updates to definitions.
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[1:25:20] And I, I should note I'm going to
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[1:25:22] be moving pretty quickly here.
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[1:25:23] You have the full report in your packet
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[1:25:24] if you want to review that in detail as
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[1:25:26] well as the slide deck available to you.
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[1:25:28] But I know you,
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[1:25:29] you have a tight schedule.
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[1:25:30] So we're going to keep to that
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[1:25:32] at least on my end.
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[1:25:33] So we did a review of every single
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[1:25:35] element of the comprehensive plan,
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[1:25:37] which I'm going to go through pretty quickly.
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[1:25:39] And then we go are going to rewind a
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[1:25:41] little bit and focus on the future
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[1:25:42] land use element in particular,
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[1:25:44] because that's one of the the biggest
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[1:25:46] elements in terms of the discussion
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[1:25:48] with the community about what growth
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[1:25:50] is going to look like going forward.
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[1:25:52] So ultimately we heard,
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[1:25:53] we heard today about the the importance
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[1:25:56] of maintaining rural character
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[1:25:57] and that of course is balanced by
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[1:25:59] where's the growth going to go if
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[1:26:01] we're maintaining these rural areas.
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[1:26:03] So the the flip side of that is
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[1:26:06] encouraging info and redevelopment,
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[1:26:07] whether it be within the cities or
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[1:26:10] within areas of unincorporated Lake County.
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[1:26:13] And then there's also some practical
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[1:26:15] updates in terms of organization.
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[1:26:17] We heard mentioned earlier that there's
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[1:26:18] some inconsistencies in the comp plan,
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[1:26:20] Certainly want to clear those up
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[1:26:22] as well as inconsistencies between
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[1:26:45] there's there's more detail in your
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[1:26:47] packet on how to strengthen and clarify
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[1:26:55] as well as making sure that all the
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[1:26:57] important conservation areas are
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[1:26:59] recognized within the comprehensive plan
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[1:27:02] in terms of the economic development element.
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[1:27:08] was one of these communities that was
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[1:27:09] considered to be more of a bedroom community.
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[1:27:21] economic action plan,
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[1:27:22] which the comp plan should be
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[1:27:24] updated to be consistent with.
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[1:27:42] to become an issue in Lake County and
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[1:27:46] that will become more of an issue.
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[1:27:53] stop then stock becomes important
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[1:27:56] again from a clean up standpoint,
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[1:27:58] streamlining the cross references and
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[1:28:09] Parks and Recreation,
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[1:28:11] we identified opportunities here to
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[1:28:25] is always very closely aligned with growth.
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[1:28:28] And our entire region is thinking much
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[1:28:46] is significant in Lake County.
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[1:28:47] And so how freight movement happens
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[1:29:04] Public facilities element,
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[1:29:05] we're getting close to the end
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[1:29:07] here of this section.
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[1:29:08] Again,
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[1:29:08] this is a lot of opportunities for clean up.
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[1:29:11] One thing that I, I,
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[1:29:13] we didn't touch on earlier is that,
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[1:29:15] and this is true of several elements,
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[1:29:16] that there's language that really
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[1:29:18] would be best served by being in
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[1:29:20] the land development code that
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[1:29:21] right now sits in the comp plan.
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[1:29:24] throughout the comp plan to make sure
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[1:29:26] that those things that are really
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[1:29:28] specific standards that are more
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[1:29:33] the comp plan is a policy level document.
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[1:29:37] So that's our view of the elements.
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[1:29:38] Again, more detail in the
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[1:29:40] packet on each one of those.
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[1:29:42] One of the requirements of the state
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[1:29:43] is to look at the comprehensive
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[1:29:45] plan to look at the future land use
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[1:29:48] map and determine whether it can
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[1:29:49] accommodate the growth that's expected.
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[1:29:51] We went over those Bieber numbers earlier
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[1:29:53] in terms of what level of growth is
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[1:29:56] expected in in population, the county.
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[1:29:58] We also did a kind of quick analysis.
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[1:30:00] A more detailed analysis would appropriately
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[1:30:02] be part of the actual comp plan update,
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[1:30:04] but we did a quick analysis to just
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[1:30:06] kind of get a sense of whether or not
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[1:30:08] the current comp plan creates that
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[1:30:09] opportunity to to accommodate growth.
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[1:30:12] So by the numbers, essentially it does.
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[1:30:15] There is theoretically enough
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[1:30:16] love capacity in the comp plan to
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[1:30:19] accommodate the growth that's expected.
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[1:30:21] There's still a need to look and make
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[1:30:23] sure that that growth is still where
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[1:30:25] the community wants to see it happen,
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[1:30:27] where it's meeting the community's
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[1:30:28] values and that it's designed in such
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[1:30:30] a way that it it improves the quality
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[1:30:32] of life within the county going forward
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[1:30:35] rather than denigrating the quality
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[1:30:36] of life that the citizens now enjoy.
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[1:30:41] So with that, I said I'm going to
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[1:30:42] delve a little bit more into that
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[1:30:44] future land use element piece.
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[1:30:46] So we started out this process by
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[1:30:47] taking what we call a synoptic Dr.
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[1:30:49] of the county.
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[1:30:50] This is really looking at character
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[1:30:52] and we know the county has a
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[1:30:54] really diverse character from
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[1:30:56] small towns to rural areas and
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[1:30:59] rapidly growing suburban areas.
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[1:31:02] And just a few samples of what what
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[1:31:05] that looks like from our perspective.
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[1:31:07] Some of these beautiful rural
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[1:31:21] one of the tools we use is this idea,
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[1:31:26] it starts to tell us why Lake County
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[1:31:28] is starting to see an uptick in growth.
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[1:31:33] what's the regional core in Orange County,
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[1:31:35] kind of followed I4 N into Seminole County,
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[1:31:38] then went started to go
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[1:31:39] South into Osceola County.
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[1:31:40] And as those areas get higher priced
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[1:31:43] and see less and less available land,
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[1:31:46] we're seeing more of a push into Lake
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[1:31:48] County's quadrant here to the West.
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[1:31:53] So as we look at the county,
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[1:31:54] we see again that diversity and
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[1:31:57] we've tried to visualize that by
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[1:32:00] looking at four different sectors.
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[1:32:01] There's the more natural and rural sectors
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[1:32:03] on the North and South end with the Green
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[1:32:06] Swamp and the Wekiva protection area.
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[1:32:08] There's those areas that are
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[1:32:10] adjacent to the Turnpike,
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[1:32:12] which we're calling the
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[1:32:13] economic development sector.
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[1:32:14] And then finally the lake sector,
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[1:32:16] which again is where we are today,
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[1:32:18] where you see the all of the small
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[1:32:20] towns and historic communities
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[1:32:22] that are that historically were
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[1:32:23] more urban within Lake County at
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[1:32:25] the time that they were built.
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[1:32:28] We had the opportunity to sit down with
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[1:32:31] each of the commissioners and talk about
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[1:32:33] what you see going forward in terms of
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[1:32:36] key issues and concerns for the county.
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[1:32:38] And when we after we came out of those
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[1:32:40] meetings, we we came up with four key
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[1:32:42] issues that we saw as being kind of
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[1:32:44] a consensus among most of the group.
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[1:32:46] Those were preserving and maintaining
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[1:32:48] role character, protecting and
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[1:32:50] sensitive environmental lands,
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[1:32:51] promoting economic development and growth,
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[1:32:53] and supporting attainable housing.
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[1:32:54] And I'm going to talk briefly about each of
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[1:32:57] those and some of the strategies that we
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[1:32:59] might use going forward to address those.
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[1:33:01] So of course, when we talk about
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[1:33:03] maintaining rural character,
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[1:33:04] one of the strategies is to preserve
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[1:33:08] means that are available to the county
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[1:33:10] and to the citizens of the county.
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[1:33:11] As we talked about earlier,
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[1:33:13] that's there's also balancing that.
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[1:33:14] One of the ways to protect the rural
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[1:33:16] areas is to be very clear on where
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[1:33:18] growth is encouraged and to continue
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[1:33:20] to encourage it in those areas,
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[1:33:22] the county, where it's appropriate.
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[1:33:24] But there's also ways to look at
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[1:33:26] those rural areas and say if growth
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[1:33:28] is going to happen,
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[1:33:28] how do we assure that it is consistent
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[1:33:30] with the character and maintain some
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[1:33:32] of the things that people like through
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[1:33:34] things like rural design guidelines.
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[1:33:35] We also know that you've recently
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[1:33:38] passed the Conservation Subdivision
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[1:33:40] ordinance and there's probably more
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[1:33:41] opportunities to look at the strategies
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[1:33:44] like that that would help to create
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[1:33:48] or near the rural areas to be continue
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[1:33:50] that character that people enjoy
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[1:33:54] preserving environmental areas.
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[1:33:55] We know that one of the main strategies
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[1:33:57] the county is using now to do this is the
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[1:34:00] transfer of development rights program.
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[1:34:02] Transfer of development rights
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[1:34:04] programs are around the country.
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[1:34:06] They there you find them,
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[1:34:08] they can be pretty difficult.
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[1:34:09] And we know that right now Stetson
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[1:34:12] and the Regional Planning Council is
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[1:34:14] evaluating your TDR program to make sure
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[1:34:16] that it's working as well as it can.
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[1:34:19] From looking at our recommendations,
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[1:34:21] one of our recommendations
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[1:34:21] was to think about,
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[1:34:22] particularly on larger properties,
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[1:34:24] the ability to consolidate those rights
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[1:34:26] within a larger property is a lot easier
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[1:34:29] to do than when you start having to
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[1:34:31] do trading between different property owners.
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[1:34:33] So that's just,
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[1:34:34] that's just a reality.
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[1:34:35] Now both can work and we want to
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[1:34:38] encourage wherever it's possible to,
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[1:34:39] to support those preservation goals,
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[1:34:41] but recognizing that some of the paths are
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[1:34:43] going to be more difficult than others.
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[1:34:47] We mentioned that economic development
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[1:34:48] sector. We also know that the county has
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[1:34:51] significant efforts like the Wellness Way
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[1:34:52] and the Wolf Branch Innovation District to
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[1:34:54] start to support economic development and
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[1:34:56] bring those jobs into the county. Again,
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[1:34:59] looking at some some of the national models,
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[1:35:02] we introduced this concept of economic
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[1:35:05] development course and recognizing
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[1:35:06] where those could be within the county.
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[1:35:08] Essentially what that is,
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[1:35:10] is looking at is where really robust
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[1:35:12] job centers can be and a lot of times
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[1:35:15] they're found around interchanges.
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[1:35:17] Those interchanges can typically support
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[1:35:18] in the area of 25,000 to 30,000 jobs.
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[1:35:23] And then once you hit that,
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[1:35:24] typically they'll start to move
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[1:35:25] up the road to a different center.
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[1:35:27] So that's what we're looking at
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[1:35:29] here and starting to identify where
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[1:35:32] those things might be happening.
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[1:35:33] And in fact we know that the Mineola
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[1:35:35] Interchange is a place that already
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[1:35:37] has a lot of entitled development
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[1:35:39] including over 3,000,000 square
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[1:35:40] feet of non residential development.
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[1:35:42] Significant amount of the residential
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[1:35:44] development that's happening there is
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[1:35:45] still in the form of single family.
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[1:35:49] And all of that starts to get
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[1:35:51] Lake County closer to having
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[1:35:52] more of a jobs housing balance.
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[1:35:54] And we know in fact there's a jobs housing
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[1:35:57] balance requirement within Wellness way.
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[1:36:00] So finally, our last key issue
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[1:36:02] being attainable housing.
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[1:36:03] Again, if you have those jobs,
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[1:36:04] we need to make sure that there's enough
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[1:36:06] housing within the county to accommodate
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[1:36:07] the the people that come with them.
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[1:36:09] Certainly some of those people
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[1:36:10] will already live here,
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[1:36:11] but some of them won't.
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[1:36:13] Historically, Lake County has been more
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[1:36:15] of a a single family driven community.
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[1:36:17] And we know that people value that lifestyle.
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[1:36:19] But as we see more people moving in,
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[1:36:23] the more low,
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[1:36:24] the lower density those people are living at,
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[1:36:27] the more of the land within the
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[1:36:28] county that's going to impact.
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[1:36:30] And there also creates affordability
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[1:36:32] issues if the only options are the
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[1:36:35] single family are the larger lot homes.
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[1:36:37] So we we identified the need to
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[1:36:41] explore different sizes of housing,
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[1:36:44] different types of housing that would
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[1:36:46] start to diversify that obviously the the
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[1:36:49] first go to for if it's not single family,
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[1:36:51] then it's apartment buildings.
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[1:36:53] But the reality is there's a lot of other
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[1:36:56] options in between a 250 to 300 unit
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[1:36:59] apartment complex and a single family home.
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[1:37:01] And exploring what those options might
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[1:37:03] be and how the county can enable those
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[1:37:05] to happen while keeping more of a fine
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[1:37:07] grained community character is one
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[1:37:08] opportunity to look at as this new
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[1:37:11] comprehensive plan update comes along.
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[1:37:13] So just to wrap up,
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[1:37:15] this is a an area that is going
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[1:37:18] to evolve pretty quickly because
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[1:37:20] it's going to see more of a wave
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[1:37:22] of growth coming this direction.
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[1:37:23] And as such,
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[1:37:24] it's a great time to be looking at
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[1:37:26] the comprehensive plan and making
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[1:37:27] sure that it's guided by a powerful
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[1:37:29] vision for what the future of
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[1:37:30] the community could look like.
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[1:37:32] We think that this sector based
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[1:37:34] approach is part of that.
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[1:37:36] There's also practical needs to
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[1:37:38] update inconsistencies both within
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[1:37:39] the comprehensive plan and between
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[1:37:41] the comp plan and the LDC and address
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[1:37:44] some of those functional concerns.
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[1:37:45] But ultimately,
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[1:37:46] as the county starts to have
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[1:37:48] more robust job base,
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[1:37:49] thinking about how both preservation
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[1:37:51] will happen of the rural and the
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[1:37:53] environmentally sensitive areas
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[1:37:54] and how that will be balanced with
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[1:37:56] having attainable housing for
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[1:37:57] the people that live here and the
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[1:38:00] people that serve businesses here
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[1:38:01] is going to become really important.
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[1:38:03] One other thing, I call this the fun thing.
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[1:38:06] We've,
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[1:38:07] we call this A50 year opportunity because it,
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[1:38:09] it's, it's a hard thing to do.
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[1:38:10] But I know there's been talk that
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[1:38:13] I've been party to for at least over
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[1:38:15] a decade about trying to create a
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[1:38:18] connection into Orange County via the
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[1:38:20] existing rail connection that exists
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[1:38:23] all the way almost to Umatilla through
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[1:38:25] to varies and down into Orlando.
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[1:38:27] So we took a little bit of time
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[1:38:29] to to talk to some of our rail
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[1:38:32] experts about what that
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[1:38:34] might look like and how,
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[1:38:35] what would be required to to attain
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[1:38:38] federal funding for an effort like that.
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[1:38:40] But it's a, it's a real opportunity
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[1:38:43] for the long term that's important
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[1:38:45] and potentially impacting, of course,
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[1:38:47] the cities that it goes through,
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[1:38:49] but also unincorporated
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[1:38:49] areas within the county.
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[1:38:51] And what would that look like?
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[1:38:54] So to wrap up here, you know,
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[1:38:56] so far what we've done is
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[1:38:57] meet the state requirements.
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[1:38:59] We've also done an evaluation of
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[1:39:01] the existing comprehensive plan
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[1:39:02] in some in in some level of detail
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[1:39:05] to identify what the needs would
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[1:39:07] be for a more robust comprehensive
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[1:39:09] plan update going forward.
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[1:39:11] The recommended next steps would be
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[1:39:14] to really have a community engaged
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[1:39:16] county wide vision that can start to
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[1:39:18] guide those comprehensive plan updates
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[1:39:20] and ultimately those roll down into
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[1:39:22] a land development code updates.
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[1:39:25] And with that, I defer to the chair
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[1:39:28] on questions or or next steps.
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[1:39:30] OK, any questions?
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[1:39:32] Commissioner Parks,
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[1:39:34] thank you for the presentation.
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[1:39:35] Maybe just a couple of questions and
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[1:39:38] a comment the if you can go back you
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[1:39:40] started to touch on I think with
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[1:39:41] like a total number of entitlements.
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[1:39:43] I don't remember which slide that was,
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[1:39:44] but we'd,
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[1:39:45] we'd ask this question on the board.
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[1:39:48] I don't know, maybe over a year ago it came,
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[1:39:50] I think it came up during the
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[1:39:52] joint planning agreement meetings.
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[1:39:54] What and I'm not sure I we have
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[1:39:56] ever gotten that number.
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[1:39:58] What is the total entitlement
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[1:40:00] cities included for Lake County?
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[1:40:02] Because you know the and it could
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[1:40:04] go to my point.
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[1:40:05] My comment would be.
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[1:40:07] Preferably I like to focus on
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[1:40:09] redevelopment and infill.
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[1:40:11] So what is what is that number?
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[1:40:13] That's a good number for everybody
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[1:40:14] to have as a good starting point
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[1:40:16] as we go into the visioning.
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[1:40:17] Sure.
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[1:40:17] So these the slide that I have up now
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[1:40:20] is the the numbers that we calculated,
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[1:40:22] we estimated there's a capacity of
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[1:40:24] a little over 80,000 dwelling units
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[1:40:27] and that's just in the unincorporated area.
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[1:40:29] So it gets to be a much more
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[1:40:30] complicated effort when you start
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[1:40:32] to include the cities because you
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[1:40:33] have to deal with 13 different comp
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[1:40:34] plans and and all of those entitlements.
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[1:40:36] But essentially what that means is
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[1:40:39] that the county could theoretically
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[1:40:41] accommodate all of the growth that's
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[1:40:44] expected through the Bieber 2045
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[1:40:47] projection just in the unincorporated area.
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[1:40:49] Now I don't know that that's going
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[1:40:51] to have an outcome that everyone
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[1:40:53] is comfortable with in terms of
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[1:40:55] how that would look and function,
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[1:40:58] but it's theoretically possible.
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[1:41:01] Yeah.
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[1:41:01] But the cities I think is going
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[1:41:02] to be important too to get that.
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[1:41:04] And I know a couple of the cities
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[1:41:05] I think have provided that data,
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[1:41:07] but I,
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[1:41:08] I think that'll be important to go
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[1:41:10] and going into visioning for us for
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[1:41:12] the comp plan is what is the total and,
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[1:41:15] and have you drilled down to some
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[1:41:16] of some of those are not realistic,
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[1:41:19] You know, the site suitability,
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[1:41:21] they might all be wetlands
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[1:41:22] deep in a floodplain.
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[1:41:23] Did you do some of that?
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[1:41:24] We did some basic, I believe,
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[1:41:27] let me just Nathan unit we took out,
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[1:41:28] I believe we took out wetlands.
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[1:41:30] So we would typically do that,
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[1:41:30] but it's, you know,
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[1:41:31] at a regional scale.
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[1:41:32] We also know that that assumes
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[1:41:33] everyone maxes out their entitlements.
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[1:41:35] And very often developers actually don't Max
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[1:41:37] out their entitlements in certain areas,
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[1:41:39] particularly where those
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[1:41:40] entitlements are higher.
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[1:41:41] So this is what I would definitely call
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[1:41:43] this a quick and dirty analysis and a
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[1:41:45] deeper analysis would be appropriate.
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[1:41:47] But it starts to give us a sense that
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[1:41:50] we don't have a big problem in terms
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[1:41:52] of satisfying the state requirements.
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[1:41:54] Yeah, there's so there's you're it's
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[1:41:56] showing just from this rough cut
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[1:41:58] that there's plenty of capacity.
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[1:41:59] I mean it also might help with
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[1:42:01] when we go into the TDR program,
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[1:42:03] I think the intent is find something
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[1:42:05] that's feasible that we're comfortable with.
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[1:42:08] I was point this out,
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[1:42:09] it's voluntary,
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[1:42:09] but it and respects free market.
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[1:42:12] But I think that for that to work,
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[1:42:14] we have to know the we have to know
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[1:42:16] the total entitlements because that's
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[1:42:19] how you're going to move the density
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[1:42:20] around and get it out of the areas.
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[1:42:22] Some of those sectors that you defined
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[1:42:24] into the if this is just my vision,
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[1:42:27] you know,
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[1:42:27] if it,
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[1:42:27] if we were going to focus on
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[1:42:29] the redevelopment in the infill,
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[1:42:30] that's going to be a critical
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[1:42:31] component to it.
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[1:42:32] So I think that data would be,
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[1:42:33] it's going to be pretty important
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[1:42:35] to get it specific.
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[1:42:38] I think that's it for now.
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[1:42:39] But I appreciate the work
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[1:42:41] and I this is just the year.
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[1:42:43] So the next step is the visioning
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[1:42:45] and then afterwards we've had some
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[1:42:48] discussion with this on the board,
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[1:42:50] but I would I'm really interested
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[1:42:52] in a in a sort of our own hybrid
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[1:42:55] version of form based codes.
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[1:42:57] But you do have to do the
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[1:42:58] visioning for that first.
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[1:42:59] I understand that completely,
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[1:43:01] but but I would like to see that.
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[1:43:04] I know that you didn't put any,
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[1:43:05] I don't know if you could put that
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[1:43:06] timeline up, but there's no dates on that.
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[1:43:10] So I mean,
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[1:43:11] I'm I'm one that would you were going to ask.
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[1:43:14] OK, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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[1:43:16] Because I'd like to do it sooner than later.
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[1:43:18] I mean, I hear years of I hear like 2028.
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[1:43:21] That's just for me,
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[1:43:22] that's just way out there.
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[1:43:23] I don't know if I could be getting
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[1:43:24] that wrong or misinterpreting that.
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[1:43:25] But that is that's extremely important
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[1:43:27] for us now because I think some
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[1:43:29] of us had questions about the comp
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[1:43:31] plan and it is time to change it.
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[1:43:32] And then if we are going to
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[1:43:34] do form based codes,
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[1:43:35] it has to you have to base it off a vision.
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[1:43:37] So I know there's no dates.
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[1:43:39] That's pretty smart on your
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[1:43:41] part not to put them on there,
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[1:43:43] but that's not in our scope.
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[1:43:45] So yeah, yeah, exactly. That's true.
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[1:43:47] County's discretion. Yeah, OK.
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[1:43:48] Well, even even smarter.
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[1:43:51] So that's that's the big question
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[1:43:53] mark is how can we do this sooner
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[1:43:55] than later to to to get that done?
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[1:43:58] Because what were we the fat?
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[1:43:59] We're the fastest.
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[1:44:00] We had the highest,
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[1:44:01] fastest growth this past past year from
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[1:44:04] from growth of just new development.
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[1:44:07] So it's not it,
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[1:44:08] it it's the next year is probably going
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[1:44:09] to be the same way here in Lake County.
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[1:44:11] So I think the sooner that
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[1:44:12] we address this the better.
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[1:44:16] Just a follow up on that question
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[1:44:19] about entitlements in relation to what
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[1:44:25] Stetson and the East the regional
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[1:44:28] planning agency are working on.
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[1:44:29] Are they not diving into that question and
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[1:44:33] actually trying to look in order to determine
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[1:44:36] feasibility for TDRS in Lake County?
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[1:44:39] I thought that would be something
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[1:44:41] that they would have to to do.
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[1:44:43] Yeah, I don't, I don't know. I know.
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[1:44:45] I just know that we asked for it at that
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[1:44:48] meeting and I think part of it was with
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[1:44:50] the joint planning agreement process.
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[1:44:52] Another question I had was,
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[1:44:53] I was going to bring it up in my comments,
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[1:44:55] but what is the status of the joint planning
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[1:44:58] agreements with some of these cities?
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[1:45:00] But I, I, I, you know,
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[1:45:01] it just seems like, you know,
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[1:45:02] that needs to be, you can't,
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[1:45:05] we, we can't make a decision or
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[1:45:07] formulate a policy about it unless
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[1:45:08] we know if it's feasible, right?
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[1:45:10] You can't figure out if it's feasible
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[1:45:12] if you don't really look at what
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[1:45:14] entitlements are out there and
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[1:45:15] how you might be able to actually
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[1:45:17] create some sort of a banking system
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[1:45:21] to move densities around.
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[1:45:23] I mean, I, I like the concept.
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[1:45:25] It's just,
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[1:45:26] I've always been skeptical that
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[1:45:28] it's that it's doable or practical,
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[1:45:29] but but I like the concept.
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[1:45:32] It is intriguing though,
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[1:45:33] that if you just looked at our
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[1:45:35] urban land uses and that's really
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[1:45:36] what you were looking at,
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[1:45:37] is the urban land uses in
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[1:45:39] the unincorporated area,
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[1:45:40] that we could actually keep up with
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[1:45:42] the projected population growth
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[1:45:44] just in the unincorporated area.
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[1:45:46] In the unincorporated area, yeah.
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[1:45:47] Which is crazy.
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[1:45:49] I mean, because, you know,
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[1:45:51] most of the growth should be
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[1:45:53] happening in the in the cities.
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[1:45:56] So I think this gives us a little
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[1:45:58] snapshot of some real opportunities
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[1:46:00] we have to work on things that
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[1:46:06] in coordination with the cities.
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[1:46:07] And again, that's going to
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[1:46:08] be the key in a lot of ways.
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[1:46:11] And I know you've been trying to
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[1:46:12] do that with the JP as I just, I,
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[1:46:14] I feel like if we're going to go in
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[1:46:16] the direction of maybe looking at form
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[1:46:18] based code or hybrid in the county,
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[1:46:20] then it's going to be critical
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[1:46:22] that we have that conversation
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[1:46:23] with the cities because that would
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[1:46:26] seem to make the most sense.
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[1:46:27] And like we actually target the areas
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[1:46:29] where growth makes the most sense and try
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[1:46:32] to shift it away from the places where we're,
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[1:46:35] we're trying to and the community is
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[1:46:37] wanting to see more of a rural feel.
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[1:46:40] And it doesn't mean that those properties
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[1:46:42] in those rural areas aren't going to be very,
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[1:46:44] very valuable people for people, you know,
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[1:46:47] without selling to a development company,
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[1:46:50] they become that much more desirable
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[1:46:53] if you're looking for that rural,
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[1:46:57] you know, character to live in.
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[1:46:58] So I think, you know, what happens
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[1:47:01] is a lot of times with the cities,
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[1:47:02] the developers come in and they basically
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[1:47:04] say, this is the only way you can do it.
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[1:47:06] This is the only way you can
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[1:47:07] make this development happen.
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[1:47:07] It's got to be this way.
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[1:47:09] And I think we have to keep
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[1:47:11] that discussion going that no,
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[1:47:13] that's not the only way.
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[1:47:15] It doesn't have to be,
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[1:47:18] you know,
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[1:47:19] especially in these fringe areas,
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[1:47:20] in the areas that you get outside of
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[1:47:23] the urban the the incorporated areas,
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[1:47:25] that doesn't have to be that way
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[1:47:27] that we have to go in that direction
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[1:47:29] because we've got enough inventory
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[1:47:31] if we stay inside the municipalities.
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[1:47:33] Yeah, I agree.
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[1:47:34] Yeah,
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[1:47:38] OK. I just have a couple of questions.
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[1:47:41] According to your slides here,
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[1:47:42] we currently have 414,000
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[1:47:45] people in Lake County.
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[1:47:47] The projection in 21 years is another
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[1:47:51] 158,000 for a total population of 672,000.
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[1:47:55] Is that right?
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[1:47:58] I will go to the number slide rather
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[1:48:00] than working from memory here. Quick
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[1:48:06] math,
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[1:48:09] there's an earlier slide,
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[1:48:10] I thought that well the bears meeting
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[1:48:13] and projection report is 158,000.
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[1:48:15] So that and you will see a
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[1:48:17] difference of 11 place we have
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[1:48:20] 2045 and one place we have 2050.
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[1:48:27] So that's the difference you see
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[1:48:29] between the the later slide in
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[1:48:30] this slide is five years, OK,
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[1:48:34] because the state requirement
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[1:48:35] is 2020 year horizon.
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[1:48:37] All right, thank you.
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[1:48:39] And can you move to your last slide please?
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[1:48:48] Are you telling me that the last
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[1:48:51] three bullets on here where it
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[1:48:53] says future is up to the county?
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[1:48:55] Yes, Sir. Mr. Fitzgerald,
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[1:49:09] so we have been working on
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[1:49:11] this for at least three years.
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[1:49:13] You've been working on it for a
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[1:49:15] year and a half or or a year about.
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[1:49:17] Do you have an anticipated date
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[1:49:21] for the county visioning as we
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[1:49:24] enter the next fiscal year?
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[1:49:26] We've budgeted for the
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[1:49:28] comprehensive plan rewrite.
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[1:49:30] Under normal circumstances,
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[1:49:31] the visioning sessions are a part of
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[1:49:34] an evaluation and appraisal report.
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[1:49:37] Our evaluation appraisal report
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[1:49:39] is compressed right up against
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[1:49:41] our comprehensive plan rewrite.
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[1:49:44] So the visioning sessions are
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[1:49:45] going to take place as part of the
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[1:49:47] comprehensive plan rewrite will hold
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[1:49:50] host a multitude of of workshops for
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[1:49:54] the public and for commissioners.
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[1:49:57] We'll do that in each district and
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[1:49:59] we will get a handle on where the
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[1:50:02] citizens want to go in the next 20
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[1:50:05] years and how this comp plan is written,
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[1:50:08] how our LDC code is written,
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[1:50:11] will it be form based code,
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[1:50:12] will it be some hybrid including
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[1:50:15] some Euclidian zoning.
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[1:50:17] So we we are right at the forefront
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[1:50:19] of that next bullet point and
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[1:50:22] that will be taking place very
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[1:50:24] shortly in this next fiscal year.
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[1:50:26] OK, thank you.
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[1:50:29] All right, any other questions?
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[1:50:31] OK,
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[1:50:32] thank you.
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[1:50:36] Any questions from the audience,
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[1:50:38] Anybody online? Nobody online.
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[1:50:41] OK, moving on down to our
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[1:50:44] next presentation, Allison.
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[1:50:53] Good morning, commissioners.
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[1:50:55] Allison Teslia,
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[1:50:55] the Director of Management and Budget.
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[1:50:58] We're here today to present
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[1:51:01] the fire assessment study.
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[1:51:03] Here's a quick little outline
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[1:51:05] of the presentation and we'll go
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[1:51:07] over the background and purpose,
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[1:51:08] the technical study and then the next steps.
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[1:51:13] As you know, the fire assessment
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[1:51:14] is used to fund Fire Protection
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[1:51:17] services such as fire suppression,
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[1:51:19] prevention, building inspections and
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[1:51:22] first response medical services,
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[1:51:24] which are considered to be LS.
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[1:51:26] It cannot fund advanced life support
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[1:51:29] which is considered ALS services.
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[1:51:32] We've performed this study annually for
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[1:51:34] the last 20 plus years by a consultant.
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[1:51:37] It examines the utilization of fire
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[1:51:39] services and the land use categories
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[1:51:42] and the assessment rates are calculated
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[1:51:45] annually based on the allocation
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[1:51:47] of resources and the assessable
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[1:51:48] portion of the proposed budget.
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[1:51:53] OK. This year, Benesh was tasked
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[1:51:55] to provide the methodology options
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[1:51:57] and update the assessment rates.
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[1:52:02] And we're here today to provide
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[1:52:04] the board with the results
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[1:52:06] of the fire assessment study.
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[1:52:08] And I'm going to turn it
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[1:52:09] over to Milgan from Bennish.
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[1:52:14] Good morning, commissioners.
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[1:52:15] I'm Megan Camp with Bennish.
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[1:52:21] As you are. You know the calculation
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[1:52:24] components include four items,
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[1:52:26] the assessable budget,
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[1:52:27] incident data, property units and
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[1:52:30] finally the calculated rates.
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[1:52:33] This year's assessment study
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[1:52:34] included some changes to the
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[1:52:36] methodology that the county
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[1:52:37] has been using for a long time.
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[1:52:39] So I'll go over them,
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[1:52:41] but they are really affecting how
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[1:52:43] we determine the ALS portion of the
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[1:52:46] budget as well as how we distribute
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[1:52:48] that budget among the land uses.
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[1:52:52] So the current update includes
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[1:52:54] incident data from the past 10 years,
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[1:52:57] updated property units,
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[1:52:59] and then starts with the requested
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[1:53:02] budget for fiscal year 25,
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[1:53:04] subtracts expenses related to ALS,
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[1:53:07] Any dedicated revenues are
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[1:53:09] subtracted and then the program
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[1:53:11] related expenses are added.
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[1:53:15] So historically, the Lake County's
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[1:53:17] program determined the ALS
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[1:53:19] budget based on incident data.
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[1:53:22] So if for example,
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[1:53:23] about 60% of or 40% of resources
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[1:53:26] were being used by ALS related
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[1:53:28] incidents that was subtracted.
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[1:53:30] This study looked at actual
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[1:53:32] costs related to ALS.
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[1:53:34] So we basically asked the fire department
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[1:53:37] if they stop providing ALS service,
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[1:53:39] what would the savings be?
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[1:53:41] They still need all the stations,
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[1:53:43] they still need all the most of
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[1:53:45] the equipment, most of the staff.
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[1:53:47] So they provided that estimate.
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[1:53:53] So then compared to the budget
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[1:53:56] that's basis of the current rates,
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[1:53:58] the requested budget is increasing about 30%,
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[1:54:02] but assessable budget is increasing 90%.
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[1:54:04] That's just because we are able to
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[1:54:07] capture a larger portion of the budget
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[1:54:09] under the assessable calculations
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[1:54:11] like basically we are subtracting
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[1:54:13] only the purely ALS related expenses
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[1:54:19] and that in turn gives the county
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[1:54:22] the ability to reduce the MSTU rates.
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[1:54:25] So that's the change.
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[1:54:27] And then resource allocation is
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[1:54:29] basically looking at again the
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[1:54:32] incidents over the past 10 years,
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[1:54:34] number of incidents by residential land uses,
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[1:54:37] how long those incidents were
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[1:54:39] and how many vehicles and staff
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[1:54:41] were used for each incident.
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[1:54:43] So we are really looking at total
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[1:54:45] resources needed for each incident.
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[1:54:48] And you can see that the
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[1:54:50] distribution is relatively stable.
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[1:54:52] There's a increase in
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[1:54:54] institutional from 10% to 11%,
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[1:54:57] but that one percentage
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[1:54:59] ends up being about 10%.
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[1:55:04] And then the other thing I want to
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[1:55:06] point out here is that's going to
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[1:55:08] become more important later when we
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[1:55:10] get into our revised distribution.
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[1:55:12] Industrial warehouse is only .8%.
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[1:55:15] As you can see, commercials about 5%,
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[1:55:17] institutions about 11% of the resources.
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[1:55:20] That's something to keep in mind.
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[1:55:23] We then take the accessible budget and
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[1:55:25] distribute them online users using those
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[1:55:27] percentages as our starting point.
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[1:55:29] And again, the total accessible
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[1:55:31] budget increase about 90%.
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[1:55:33] Anything different from that is
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[1:55:35] because of the resource allocation
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[1:55:36] changes in the resource allocation.
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[1:55:41] Finally, we update the property units
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[1:55:43] and again you can see there are some
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[1:55:46] minor increases as a percentage and
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[1:55:48] now some decrease in the case of
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[1:55:50] vacant land as it gets developed.
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[1:55:54] So the residential, hotel,
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[1:55:56] motel and vacant land are determined
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[1:55:58] by basically taking the portion
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[1:56:00] of the budget assigned to those
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[1:56:03] land uses and dividing by units.
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[1:56:05] So residential would increase
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[1:56:08] from $225 per unit to 415,
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[1:56:11] hotel motel from 65 to 124
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[1:56:14] and they can land 68 to 140.
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[1:56:17] And it's really mostly driven
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[1:56:19] by the budget increase.
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[1:56:21] These changes
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[1:56:24] in the case of non residential,
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[1:56:26] we use the two tier system and
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[1:56:29] we wanted to recognize that
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[1:56:30] even if a property doesn't use,
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[1:56:35] doesn't use the fire department
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[1:56:37] services that never makes a call,
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[1:56:39] it still benefits from the availability
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[1:56:41] of the fire department and that's
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[1:56:44] through the insurance premiums,
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[1:56:45] property values, availability
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[1:56:47] of safety options and so forth.
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[1:56:51] And so we allocated 70% of the
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[1:56:53] budget equally among total all,
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[1:56:55] all of the non residential square footage
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[1:56:58] and 30% based on their actual use of it.
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[1:57:02] And the 30 and 70 are determined
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[1:57:04] based off industry research that
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[1:57:06] says that any station that's active
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[1:57:08] more than 30% of the time starts
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[1:57:12] experiencing inefficiencies, fatigue,
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[1:57:14] inability to address concurrent events,
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[1:57:16] lack of training and so forth.
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[1:57:18] And again when we say 30% of the time
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[1:57:20] they're of course operating 24 hours a day.
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[1:57:22] So,
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[1:57:26] so we take the 70% of the budget,
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[1:57:29] divide by the square footage.
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[1:57:30] So that generates the charge of about
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[1:57:33] $0.32 before each type of property
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[1:57:36] and then distribute remaining budget
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[1:57:38] based on their actual utilization
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[1:57:41] and then add those two components
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[1:57:43] to come up with the final rates.
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[1:57:47] So here is like as you know your non
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[1:57:50] residential schedule is tiered and
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[1:57:52] this is just showing you some example
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[1:57:54] tiers for 15,000 square foot facility.
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[1:57:57] So commercial would increase from 3100 to
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[1:58:00] 5400 the son of per building charge and
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[1:58:03] that's less than the budget increase of 90%.
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[1:58:07] Industrial would increase about
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[1:58:09] 400 to 4000 and institutional would
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[1:58:13] increase from 7900 to 8400.
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[1:58:16] So basically what this methodology is doing,
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[1:58:20] instead of using strictly utilization,
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[1:58:22] where the industrial
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[1:58:24] utilization was pretty small,
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[1:58:25] but those properties were still
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[1:58:27] benefiting from the availability
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[1:58:28] of the fire department again
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[1:58:30] through their insurance savings,
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[1:58:31] property values and so forth.
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[1:58:33] It's kind of creating a
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[1:58:35] more balanced distribution.
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[1:58:37] It's recognizing that benefit as well.
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[1:58:40] So it's industrial is
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[1:58:42] still the lowest category,
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[1:58:44] but it's not as much lower
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[1:58:47] under this methodology.
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[1:58:51] And this chart kind of shows all
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[1:58:53] the rates with the examples on
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[1:58:56] the non essential for comparison.
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[1:59:01] And then I think Allison will take over that.
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[1:59:10] And then as Milken noted before,
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[1:59:13] we're proposing a decrease in the MSTU.
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[1:59:16] The MSTU is what we used to fund the
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[1:59:18] ALS services that are provided by the
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[1:59:22] fire department and the portion that
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[1:59:24] cannot be funded by the fire assessment.
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[1:59:29] OK. And then the next steps
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[1:59:34] today you're considering the
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[1:59:35] interim fire assessment study
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[1:59:37] that was presented in July.
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[1:59:39] We will adopt the initial fire
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[1:59:41] assessment resolution with
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[1:59:43] the updated assessment rates.
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[1:59:44] And then in September,
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[1:59:45] we'll hold our public hearings.
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[1:59:49] OK. So today's requested action
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[1:59:51] is to accept the fire assessment
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[1:59:53] study that was presented by Banesh.
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[1:59:56] OK, Commissioners,
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[2:00:00] this might be for future discussion,
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[2:00:01] but do we have the the net if you?
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[2:00:05] You know if you add both the rates
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[2:00:07] together, what the impact would be,
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[2:00:11] You're talking about the net
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[2:00:12] tax impact on an individual.
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[2:00:14] So if you looked at just one
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[2:00:16] example of a property with
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[2:00:19] about $150,000 assessable,
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[2:00:21] which is typically our average
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[2:00:24] countrywide or accessible value,
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[2:00:26] it's about 185 to $190.00 increase net.
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[2:00:31] So that would include a decrease
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[2:00:33] in your MSTU and the increase
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[2:00:35] in the fire assessment.
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[2:00:40] Any further questions? All right.
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[2:00:43] I think we have to have a
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[2:00:45] motion to accept the I just,
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[2:00:46] I did want to follow up though on the,
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[2:00:48] the, the shift and how we've done it
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[2:00:50] before versus how we're doing it now.
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[2:00:52] And just to, for mainly for
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[2:00:56] public to understand why we
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[2:00:57] would make a change like this.
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[2:00:59] And my understanding is that we've,
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[2:01:01] we've been doing it in a way that was,
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[2:01:03] it was acceptable,
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[2:01:05] but it wasn't like preferable from,
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[2:01:08] from the industry's standpoint,
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[2:01:10] because you're actually looking at what
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[2:01:13] it cost to run that fire station and
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[2:01:16] then how much of it is being used for
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[2:01:19] advanced life support services cost wise
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[2:01:24] versus what you've got to have there anyway.
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[2:01:27] 24/7 because you've got to
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[2:01:28] be there no matter what.
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[2:01:30] 24/7.
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[2:01:31] Yes, the county's program has
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[2:01:34] been established many years ago.
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[2:01:36] I I don't think the methodology
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[2:01:38] has been changed since then,
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[2:01:40] but we think that this way of approaching,
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[2:01:43] but the budget is more
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[2:01:45] realistic because again,
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[2:01:46] there's a sunk cost that it
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[2:01:48] has to be there no matter what.
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[2:01:50] And basically what they are doing is
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[2:01:52] using that to respond to ALS services,
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[2:01:55] but they don't need it.
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[2:01:58] I mean,
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[2:01:58] if they stop doing the ALS,
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[2:02:00] they are not going to be able to
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[2:02:02] get rid of 40% of the budget or
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[2:02:05] whatever the incident data shows.
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[2:02:06] So this feels to us a more accurate way
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[2:02:10] of measuring the portion of the ALS.
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[2:02:12] OK, Yeah.
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[2:02:14] I just wanted to make make
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[2:02:16] it clear that I mean,
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[2:02:17] this is,
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[2:02:17] this is a real shift in how it's
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[2:02:19] been done historically,
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[2:02:21] but from everything that I've
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[2:02:23] heard and read about this,
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[2:02:25] this is really the way that it should,
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[2:02:28] this is how it should be done.
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[2:02:29] If you're going to balance between
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[2:02:31] what you've got to have there no
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[2:02:33] matter what for Fire Rescue purposes
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[2:02:35] and for everybody's homeowners
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[2:02:37] insurance and Fire Protection,
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[2:02:39] we have to have those fire
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[2:02:41] stations and those fire assets,
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[2:02:42] fire prevention and,
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[2:02:44] you know,
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[2:02:46] the ability to to address structure
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[2:02:48] fires and safety and all of that.
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[2:02:50] We've got to have that no matter what.
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[2:02:51] We're running our LS out of those
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[2:02:55] locations in in concert with our
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[2:02:58] cities and in different models we use
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[2:03:01] for having our ambulances available.
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[2:03:04] But but this reflects what those
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[2:03:06] actual costs are to have those
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[2:03:08] stations there and have that manpower
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[2:03:10] there like like three men on a
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[2:03:12] truck and some of these other needs,
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[2:03:14] right.
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[2:03:14] Well,
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[2:03:14] I mean,
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[2:03:15] it all goes hand in hand with
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[2:03:17] whatever category you're putting
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[2:03:19] those particular services.
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[2:03:20] And
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[2:03:23] so and that and, and to add on to
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[2:03:25] Commissioner Campion's comment,
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[2:03:27] that is part of our public safety system
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[2:03:29] is first responders, the firefighters
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[2:03:32] are typically going to arrive 1st.
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[2:03:34] And so the ALS services are important
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[2:03:37] that we have those available
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[2:03:39] on the on the big red trucks.
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[2:03:41] However, those big red trucks are
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[2:03:43] going to be there no matter what,
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[2:03:45] even if they weren't providing the
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[2:03:48] paramedic advanced life support services.
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[2:03:50] So the cost don't go away if they're
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[2:03:52] not providing those services.
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[2:03:54] So they really need to be allocated
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[2:03:56] to all land use categories.
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[2:04:05] OK, I'm looking for a motion.
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[2:04:11] I'll move to accept the study.
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[2:04:12] I'll second. All right,
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[2:04:14] we have a motion and a second.
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[2:04:16] Any further discussion?
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[2:04:18] I only have one thing.
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[2:04:20] Did Vinci take into consideration
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[2:04:24] to tier their amount?
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[2:04:28] We're talking commercial,
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[2:04:30] institutional and industrial now
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[2:04:34] to tier their amount of money
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[2:04:38] assessed by the fire assessment
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[2:04:42] for newer buildings because newer
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[2:04:45] buildings require different types of
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[2:04:47] fire suppression that makes them a
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[2:04:49] lot safer than the older building.
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[2:04:50] So is that taken into consideration?
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[2:04:54] So we are using their actual utilization.
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[2:04:56] So with those buildings that land
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[2:04:58] use is still calling X number.
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[2:05:00] So that's one thing.
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[2:05:02] The other thing is 80% or more of the
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[2:05:07] services health related medical calls,
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[2:05:09] it's not very many fire calls
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[2:05:12] that they are responding.
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[2:05:14] So a chief can give you the better numbers,
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[2:05:16] but for the most part like seventy,
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[2:05:20] 8090% of fire department services are
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[2:05:23] basic life support, advanced life,
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[2:05:25] sports, just medical calls.
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[2:05:27] OK, we have a motion to 2nd
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[2:05:31] any further discussion.
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[2:05:32] All those in favor to approve the
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[2:05:35] presentation say aye, aye, opposed.
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[2:05:38] Motion carries 50.
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[2:05:41] All right, moving on down to Mr.
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[2:05:42] Fred Schneider.
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[2:05:48] Morning Commissioners.
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[2:05:51] Fred Schneider, Assistant County Manager.
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[2:05:53] This is the Wellness way.
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[2:05:54] MSTU study outlines give background purpose.
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[2:05:59] The technical study will be provided
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[2:06:02] by Negan Camp and then we'll discuss
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[2:06:05] next steps which would be the
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[2:06:08] recommended or desired assessment
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[2:06:10] rate that would go on the trim
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[2:06:13] notices for the Wellness Way MSTU.
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[2:06:15] So a little background. In 2016,
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[2:06:18] the Wellness Way area plan was adopted
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[2:06:22] 2023. This is after the Wellness
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[2:06:24] Way design guidelines were adopted.
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[2:06:26] We went a little further to define
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[2:06:28] what the collector roads would look
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[2:06:31] like as far as design standards.
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[2:06:33] And so those are the four
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[2:06:34] main collector roads.
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[2:06:35] They're they're four lane roadways.
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[2:06:38] Schofield part is 2 lane right now.
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[2:06:41] It could be 4 lane in the future.
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[2:06:42] But what would those look like
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[2:06:44] as far as there's upscale and
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[2:06:46] enhancements on aesthetics,
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[2:06:47] landscaping and those kind of
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[2:06:49] things that go along with this,
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[2:06:50] which is above and beyond
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[2:06:52] our normal roadways.
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[2:06:53] So the Wellness way,
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[2:06:55] MSTU was established to help
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[2:06:58] fund the maintenance of those
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[2:07:01] enhanced areas of aesthetics.
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[2:07:03] And so then Banesh has been tasked to
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[2:07:06] calculate what those levels would be.
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[2:07:08] And they've projected out 20 years and
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[2:07:11] looking at over the number of years looking.
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[2:07:14] And she'll get into this
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[2:07:15] when developments come in,
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[2:07:16] when roads get, you know,
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[2:07:18] built and upgraded and those kind of things.
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[2:07:21] So the general area is in
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[2:07:24] southeast Lake County,
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[2:07:25] as you see on the left map.
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[2:07:26] And then on the on the right map,
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[2:07:31] what you see is the MSTU
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[2:07:34] area outlined in yellow,
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[2:07:36] but it Wellness way area itself
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[2:07:38] is a little bit larger than that
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[2:07:40] and you can see to the South and
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[2:07:44] And the reason the MSTU doesn't yet
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[2:07:47] reach those areas is if we had a MSTU today,
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[2:07:51] those folks would have to try out
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[2:07:58] So they're not,
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[2:07:59] they're not benefiting at this
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[2:08:00] point in time from any kind of
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[2:08:04] be in that put on those roads.
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[2:08:05] So that's why the board, you know,
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[2:08:08] adopted the Wellness way and
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[2:08:09] Stu as a little bit,
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[2:08:10] a little bit zoned a little
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[2:08:12] bit small than the,
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[2:08:13] the actual area plan.
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[2:08:16] And so the,
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[2:08:17] the purpose of this is again to provide
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[2:08:19] the board the results of the MSTU study.
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[2:08:23] And so I'm going to introduce
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[2:08:25] Negan camp with Banesh and she'll
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[2:08:27] she'll go over the study itself.
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[2:08:29] And then if the board would discuss
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[2:08:33] what the preferred rate would
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[2:08:35] go on the trim notice in August.
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[2:08:37] So Negan,
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[2:08:44] Negan camp with Banish.
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[2:08:48] So the methodology to determine
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[2:08:51] the rates included starting
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[2:09:03] value and developing the rates.
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[2:09:11] by the county and and these costs
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[2:09:14] include things like the mowing,
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[2:09:18] gutter, landscapes and so on.
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[2:09:21] And they range anywhere from 850,000
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[2:09:26] in 2025 to all the way to two and a
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[2:09:30] half million in 2040 and incorporates
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[2:09:45] online and a total of almost 14,000
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[2:09:48] units are estimated to be built
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[2:09:56] So that average is about 860 units per year.
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[2:10:02] Housing prices were estimated at 470,000 for
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[2:10:07] single family and 235,000 for multifamily.
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[2:10:11] This information was provided by the ongoing
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[2:10:17] against recently built homes to verify.
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[2:10:26] values over the past five, 6-7 years.
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[2:10:34] they are increasing primarily.
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[2:10:37] So approximately 75% of the single
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[2:10:39] family homes are in in Lake County
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[2:10:42] right now are homesteaded and that
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[2:10:44] that was assumed to be the case
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[2:10:46] in the Wellness way area as well.
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[2:10:48] And about 10% of the multifamily
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[2:10:58] So it's really development timeline
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[2:11:00] is estimated from maybe 20-30
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[2:11:08] and that would be about more
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[2:11:10] than half of it is commercial,
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[2:11:13] 34% industrial and about 10%
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[2:11:16] is institutional. Can
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[2:11:21] I skip? OK.
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[2:11:23] And then the vacant land right now
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[2:11:26] about 54% of the existing tax base
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[2:11:28] is vacant and over time the value
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[2:11:31] of existing vacant would increase,
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[2:11:32] but also the amount of vacant land will
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[2:11:35] decrease as the properties are built.
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[2:11:37] So those were taking account in
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[2:11:39] determining the portion of the tax base
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[2:11:41] that will come from vacant property.
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[2:11:47] And so we had that for this
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[2:11:51] base scenario, three options.
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[2:11:53] If the board wanted to keep
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[2:11:55] the first five years fixed,
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[2:11:57] what would it calculate if it's first
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[2:12:00] ten years fixed and 15 year fixed?
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[2:12:03] So if it's first five years,
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[2:12:05] it will be about .9 mills.
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[2:12:07] If it's 1010 years is .4
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[2:12:09] and then 15 years .25.
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[2:12:11] Basically what would happen is early
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[2:12:13] years would not generate enough revenues
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[2:12:18] but then the later years
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[2:12:19] would make up for it.
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[2:12:20] So meanwhile,
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[2:12:21] general fund would land to this account.
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[2:12:25] And again, all these,
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[2:12:27] obviously this is crystal ball,
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[2:12:29] all these projections should be
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[2:12:31] evaluated every few years to see
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[2:12:33] and if we have a great another Great
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[2:12:35] Recession and something happens,
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[2:12:36] these will all change.
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[2:12:38] But the study is based on what the
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[2:12:40] trends we are seeing right now.
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[2:12:42] If these continue, what would it be?
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[2:12:44] And
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[2:12:47] then we did 2 alternative scenarios,
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[2:12:49] low growth just to show you some
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[2:12:51] sensitivity how the rates are changing.
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[2:12:53] Low growth is just assumes only 2/3
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[2:12:55] of these developments will take will
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[2:12:58] come online during that time period.
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[2:13:00] And then the high growth is
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[2:13:02] they will be developed faster.
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[2:13:06] So with that for with for example,
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[2:13:09] the first five years instead of being .917,
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[2:13:13] if it's, if there's low growth,
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[2:13:15] it's .94 almost if it's a high growth is .8.
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[2:13:19] So that's just how fast the
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[2:13:21] tax base is growing to be able
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[2:13:23] to pay for these improvements.
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[2:13:27] Next steps, I'll turn it back over to Fred.
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[2:13:40] So the next steps would be discussion
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[2:13:44] July 9th at the budget workshop.
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[2:13:47] July 15th maximum mileage rates
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[2:13:50] submittal dot September budget
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[2:13:52] mileage rates in September 24th
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[2:13:55] adopt the final 2025 mileage rates.
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[2:13:58] So that would be the the next steps.
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[2:14:01] OK, Commissioners,
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[2:14:06] Commissioner parks, you know,
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[2:14:08] I had some questions.
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[2:14:10] So obviously I always like to
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[2:14:11] make this clear to this is it the
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[2:14:13] discussion is for that area that's
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[2:14:15] on the map for Wellness way only.
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[2:14:16] This is if you live in any
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[2:14:17] other part of Lake County.
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[2:14:19] This is not you at all,
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[2:14:21] but it's important because this
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[2:14:23] is this is put in place and
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[2:14:25] I appreciate the board doing
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[2:14:26] this because it it's it helps.
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[2:14:29] They will be paying for Wellness
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[2:14:31] way will be paying for these
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[2:14:33] improvements in the maintenance where
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[2:14:35] in lots of places typically it's
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[2:14:37] spread across the entire county.
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[2:14:39] So this is our growth paying
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[2:14:42] for itself discussion.
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[2:14:44] My question is,
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[2:14:45] is that if you go to slide 14 just
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[2:14:48] so I heard this correct that the
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[2:14:51] if you the lower you go with it,
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[2:14:53] the more I think you mentioned this
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[2:14:56] that it has to be lent or provided
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[2:14:59] by the current general fund.
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[2:15:01] So that if you go with that
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[2:15:02] lower mileage rate more is going
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[2:15:04] to have to come out early on.
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[2:15:05] So when when we if we didn't create
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[2:15:09] a fixed rate for any length of
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[2:15:11] time like the first year would
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[2:15:13] be 1.6 mill and then it would
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[2:15:14] go down as the tax base comes.
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[2:15:16] So what I was trying to say that
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[2:15:19] first five years if you adopted .9
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[2:15:21] year one general fund would have to
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[2:15:23] land to this MSTU account to make
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[2:15:26] it whole and then maybe that will
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[2:15:28] pay back the general fund year five.
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[2:15:31] I see. OK.
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[2:15:32] But your recommendation is that last slide.
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[2:15:34] It's the base is that did I pick that up?
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[2:15:36] Base seems to be the to us right
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[2:15:39] now most likely scenario, Yes.
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[2:15:40] OK.
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[2:15:41] Can you go back to that slide that's 16?
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[2:15:42] Is that
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[2:15:45] so that's your that's your recommendation.
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[2:15:47] The five year at 0.917 then.
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[2:15:50] OK. All right. Thank you.
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[2:15:53] Could you go back to the slide of
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[2:15:54] the uses for the for the money?
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[2:15:58] Which one? Oh, you're back
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[2:15:59] at the beginning. I think
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[2:16:02] that actually. Oh, the map. Yeah.
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[2:16:05] There you go. Nope. Too far.
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[2:16:06] You went, you didn't get it went too far.
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[2:16:09] You want the uses, right? Yeah.
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[2:16:13] All right. So the, the,
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[2:16:14] so some of these are ongoing costs, right?
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[2:16:16] Some of it you're not
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[2:16:18] maintenance of sidewalks.
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[2:16:19] Hopefully you don't have to do that for,
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[2:16:22] I mean, you don't have to have to redo
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[2:16:24] the sidewalk hopefully for right, 15 years.
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[2:16:27] But it looks like a lot of the
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[2:16:29] other stuff is, you know, going to,
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[2:16:31] we're going to need the money to spend it.
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[2:16:33] We're going to need the money, you know,
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[2:16:36] sooner rather than later for a lot of it.
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[2:16:38] Because normally when I was
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[2:16:39] thinking about this, it's, you know,
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[2:16:40] in 20 years we got to go and repave and,
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[2:16:44] you know, do all these different things.
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[2:16:45] But it looks like there's just,
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[2:16:47] there's way more to it
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[2:16:48] than what I was thinking.
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[2:16:49] And we haven't included resurfacing in this
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[2:16:52] and it's not reserving is not in there.
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[2:16:54] It's not. Yeah.
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[2:16:55] And that's because there are external
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[2:16:58] traffic that passes through this area.
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[2:17:00] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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[2:17:02] Uses these roads that are more
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[2:17:04] sort of a regional kind of road
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[2:17:06] and not just to the area.
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[2:17:08] So yeah, so a lot of this stuff is what
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[2:17:10] that like an HOA would normally do, right?
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[2:17:12] This this is enhanced.
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[2:17:14] So this is above and beyond what we typically
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[2:17:17] do in an unincorporated development.
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[2:17:19] And we we take the batwing mowers
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[2:17:21] out and we just cut everything down.
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[2:17:23] So this is actually beautiful landscaping,
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[2:17:26] you know, enhanced lighting,
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[2:17:28] things that you typically don't
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[2:17:30] see outside of a a city setting.
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[2:17:32] So that's what this funding would pay for.
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[2:17:35] But this is this is maintenance cost.
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[2:17:37] So there are there are some uses that
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[2:17:38] are that for capital though, correct?
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[2:17:42] It could be used for capital,
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[2:17:44] but primarily, yeah,
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[2:17:45] it it's part of the ordinance.
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[2:17:48] It could be used that way.
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[2:17:49] But for the most part,
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[2:17:51] for planning purposes,
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[2:17:51] it would be for the ongoing
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[2:17:53] maintenance because that's where
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[2:17:54] the major cost come in annually.
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[2:17:56] Yeah,
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[2:17:56] but but it won't happen anytime soon because
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[2:18:00] it's everything's going to be brand new.
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[2:18:01] But there could be a time where you
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[2:18:04] need money to redo something or a turn
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[2:18:07] lane or or some other capital improvement.
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[2:18:10] And the beauty of that is it allows,
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[2:18:12] it's some future Commission to be
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[2:18:14] able to do that without charging
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[2:18:15] everybody else in the county for it.
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[2:18:17] But you, you stress the maintenance cost,
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[2:18:20] which is important because that's a that's
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[2:18:22] a big part of when you build something.
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[2:18:24] It's not just building it,
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[2:18:25] it's maintaining it.
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[2:18:27] So, yeah, exactly.
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[2:18:28] And outer years,
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[2:18:29] you've got things that need repaired,
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[2:18:32] replaced, you know.
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[2:18:33] Right.
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[2:18:33] Yeah.
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[2:18:34] But I just I mean,
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[2:18:35] I know that you I to your question,
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[2:18:37] it's not that most of it is the
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[2:18:38] maintenance right now up front,
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[2:18:40] but it could include other capital costs,
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[2:18:42] right.
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[2:18:42] Do we have a rough idea of the
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[2:18:46] not the 15 year solid rate,
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[2:18:48] but you know,
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[2:18:49] did it the other way
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[2:18:51] we did the 15 years,
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[2:18:53] how much money would we have to
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[2:18:57] that we wouldn't have otherwise?
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[2:18:58] If we if we do that,
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[2:19:00] the column on the right, right,
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[2:19:02] you said we're going to have to borrow
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[2:19:03] from the general fund versus on the left.
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[2:19:05] How much would that be?
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[2:19:06] So the first few years it starts
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[2:19:09] the cost starts with 850,000
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[2:19:11] and it moves up to 1.2 million.
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[2:19:13] I think first five years and right
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[2:19:16] around there is stable and the 15
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[2:19:20] years would only almost generate almost
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[2:19:24] like a third of the five years rate.
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[2:19:28] So you would have to
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[2:19:31] and even the 15 year first few years
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[2:19:33] is not going to generate enough.
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[2:19:34] But basically you probably have to
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[2:19:41] contribute about if it's like a 851
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[2:19:45] third of it 300 four 100,000 more
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[2:19:47] than what you would normally wanted
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[2:19:49] a rough idea on that. Thank you.
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[2:19:51] But you're getting paid back, right?
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[2:19:53] Just OK, I'm I'm confused a little bit
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[2:19:57] about like these areas in Wellness way.
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[2:20:01] Could they still have a homeowners
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[2:20:04] association, property owners association,
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[2:20:06] that kind of thing.
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[2:20:07] They're still going to have fees that
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[2:20:09] they're potentially paying for the things
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[2:20:11] that are related to their plat, correct.
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[2:20:14] Those would be within
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[2:20:15] their subdivisions though.
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[2:20:17] These this is the roads, the road
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[2:20:19] system that's not in their subdivision.
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[2:20:21] So these are all these these are only
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[2:20:22] the roads that are outside of the right.
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[2:20:24] Yeah. Because normally.
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[2:20:25] In a typical scenario,
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[2:20:27] it would the HOA might handle the,
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[2:20:29] the sort of the nice stuff within the,
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[2:20:31] the neighborhood.
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[2:20:32] But yeah,
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[2:20:33] that's going to be totally they'll be,
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[2:20:35] they'll be separate to that.
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[2:20:37] Back to I guess Jennifer's analogy.
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[2:20:39] It's like along County Road 44A or you know,
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[2:20:44] 561. You just take the mowers
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[2:20:46] out there every so often.
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[2:20:47] You do, you know,
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[2:20:48] the basic litter pick up all that.
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[2:20:49] This is more of a manicured,
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[2:20:52] manicured type situation.
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[2:20:54] We're going to have contractors.
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[2:20:58] It is next to Disney.
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[2:20:59] So I guess the and, and again,
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[2:21:01] so that looks like Disney.
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[2:21:02] Everybody else in the county
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[2:21:03] doesn't pay for it, right?
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[2:21:04] Well, that's,
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[2:21:05] that's a really,
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[2:21:06] really important point to make.
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[2:21:08] But this is just strictly Wellness
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[2:21:10] way and this is a way to take care of
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[2:21:12] maintenance at an enhanced level so
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[2:21:14] that the only the property owners there
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[2:21:15] and businesses are are paying for it.
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[2:21:18] Yeah.
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[2:21:19] And it fits the vision of we know you're
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[2:21:21] trying to there's the I know the percentages,
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[2:21:23] the ratios are off Now that it is you
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[2:21:25] always start with a lot of the residential.
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[2:21:27] But but to to have that area planned,
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[2:21:30] there's a certain,
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[2:21:31] you know,
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[2:21:32] look that helps with the economic
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[2:21:33] development side as well.
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[2:21:34] That's how quickly would we get paid back,
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[2:21:37] though,
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[2:21:37] with the county get paid back from
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[2:21:40] putting money from the general fund,
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[2:21:42] loaning money from the general fund
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[2:21:44] is is have you looked at that?
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[2:21:47] So if you
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[2:21:49] adopt A five year schedule,
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[2:21:51] it would be within that five year
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[2:21:52] that that you would start to
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[2:21:53] get the money back. Get it back.
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[2:21:55] Yeah, I if there is AI don't know
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[2:21:57] if you have the report in the
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[2:22:01] nearby, but there's a chart that shows
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[2:22:03] what it would be the mileage year by
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[2:22:04] year if we didn't average it at all.
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[2:22:06] So you can't see that this .9
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[2:22:09] is becoming higher than what
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[2:22:11] it would be and around 2028.
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[2:22:14] So first three years general
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[2:22:16] fund is loaning and then
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[2:22:19] the MSTU is paying back year four and five,
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[2:22:22] for example on that example.
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[2:22:25] And again, I mean,
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[2:22:27] I think you said something now that
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[2:22:29] seems reasonable and then visit,
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[2:22:31] revisit that every 2-3 years kind
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[2:22:33] of just see how everything is going.
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[2:22:43] OK, any further questions? All right,
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[2:22:47] thank you very much. Thank you.
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[2:22:54] Did did you get a recommendation
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[2:22:56] of which one you would prefer?
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[2:22:58] You need a motion on that.
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[2:23:00] We just need direction to bring
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[2:23:02] back because this will be part
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[2:23:04] of the approval of the mileage
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[2:23:06] rates for the trim notice in July.
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[2:23:08] So if the board has a province between
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[2:23:11] the five year, 10 year, 15 year,
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[2:23:13] I mean, I'm if you want a motion,
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[2:23:15] I'll make a motion to go with
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[2:23:17] the recommendation of the base,
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[2:23:19] which you see on the screen here.
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[2:23:20] Five year point, the five year scenario,
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[2:23:23] five year scenario.
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[2:23:26] Could I just ask, do we know what
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[2:23:28] the property owner's preference is?
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[2:23:30] Is there a second before discussion? Second.
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[2:23:33] OK, now we can do we know if there's
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[2:23:36] a property owner preference on that?
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[2:23:38] Well, all the property owners
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[2:23:40] from over a year ago when we,
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[2:23:43] you know, brought this forward,
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[2:23:44] we're all major, you know,
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[2:23:45] there's only they all supported it.
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[2:23:47] I mean, of the options that you're,
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[2:23:49] oh, oh, oh, OK.
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[2:23:52] I, I don't know to be, I don't,
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[2:23:54] I don't know if they've all been asked, but
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[2:23:58] you know, we haven't had
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[2:24:00] the Wellness way meetings.
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[2:24:02] We've had, we have those monthly and
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[2:24:04] the last two have been cancelled.
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[2:24:06] But there'll be time,
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[2:24:08] there'll be a July meeting.
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[2:24:10] So we, you know,
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[2:24:10] I could certainly bring this up.
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[2:24:11] And if there was some issue,
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[2:24:12] they could always. Yeah.
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[2:24:13] I was just curious since they're the
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[2:24:15] ones that'll be, you know, affected.
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[2:24:17] Yeah, there would be time.
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[2:24:18] There'd be plenty of time between
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[2:24:20] now and the the final vote on it.
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[2:24:22] If you want, we can do that.
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[2:24:25] And this is not a situation
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[2:24:26] where you can't change.
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[2:24:27] I mean, if you wait,
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[2:24:29] it would it would follow the same
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[2:24:31] process as every other mileage rate.
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[2:24:32] So if you set the higher rate even in
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[2:24:34] July for the trim notice in September,
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[2:24:36] you can always lower it.
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[2:24:39] So if you got more information from
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[2:24:42] the land owners and you saw there
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[2:24:43] was a preference to you know go
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[2:24:45] a different route with the board,
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[2:24:47] that's fine.
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[2:24:48] We can always lower it.
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[2:24:53] OK, we have a motion and a second.
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[2:24:55] The recommendation to go with
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[2:24:58] A5 year base rate of .917 under
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[2:25:01] the technical study for the MST
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[2:25:04] mileage rate for Wellness way.
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[2:25:07] All those in favor say aye, aye.
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[2:25:09] Opposed Motion carries 41. Thank you.
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[2:25:15] OK. I'm almost scared to
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[2:25:17] call this next person up.
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[2:25:21] Megan, don't come up.
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[2:25:24] Be kind to us.
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[2:25:24] This year, no hurricanes.
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[2:25:28] I apologize in advance.
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[2:25:30] Good morning, Megan Milanese,
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[2:25:31] director of the Lake County
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[2:25:32] Office of Emergency Management.
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[2:25:34] I am going to give you an update
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[2:25:36] on what we are expecting for
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[2:25:38] this hurricane season this year.
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[2:25:40] As a quick outline of what
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[2:25:42] we'll be presenting today.
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[2:25:43] It will be an overview of
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[2:25:45] hurricane terminology,
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[2:25:45] just a reminder of what we're talking about,
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[2:25:48] a review of our past hurricane seasons,
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[2:25:50] as well as a review of our upcoming
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[2:25:53] 2024 hurricane season and an
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[2:25:55] overview and review of what we can
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[2:25:58] do to prepare for the season that
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[2:26:00] we're expecting to see this year.
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[2:26:02] So quickly, weather terminology.
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[2:26:04] First thing that a system might develop into,
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[2:26:08] depending on the wind speeds
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[2:26:10] that we see develop,
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[2:26:11] is a tropical depression,
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[2:26:13] and that is an organized weather
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[2:26:15] system with winds of 38 mph or less.
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[2:26:19] If it gets any stronger,
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[2:26:20] it will develop into a tropical storm,
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[2:26:22] which is when it will get its
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[2:26:24] name from 39 to 73 mph.
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[2:26:27] Hurricane is anything with
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[2:26:29] winds of 75 mph or higher.
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[2:26:32] And then we would consider a system
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[2:26:34] that reaches a category three or
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[2:26:37] higher to be a major hurricane and
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[2:26:40] that's something that has 100 to
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[2:26:42] 11 mile per hour winds or higher.
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[2:26:46] So we break that into categories
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[2:26:47] once it reaches that hurricane level.
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[2:26:50] So category one is anything
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[2:26:52] between 74 to 95 mph,
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[2:26:54] Category two is 96 to 110.
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[2:26:58] And then again,
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[2:26:59] those major hurricane categories
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[2:27:01] that category 3 is that 111 to 129,
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[2:27:03] four is 1:30 to 1:56,
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[2:27:06] and then five would be 157 mph or higher.
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[2:27:09] So those are our major concerns
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[2:27:10] that we're worried about.
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[2:27:14] In terms of past hurricane seasons,
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[2:27:16] the Lake County EOC has responded to seven
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[2:27:20] different storms within the last eight years,
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[2:27:23] and that includes going all the way
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[2:27:25] back to Matthew in 2016, Irma and 17.
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[2:27:27] And then of course, we had Ian and Nicole.
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[2:27:30] We got 2 for one in 2022
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[2:27:32] and then Adalia last year.
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[2:27:34] We were very fortunate and that we
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[2:27:36] didn't really have a whole lot of
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[2:27:38] major damage from Hurricane Adalia.
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[2:27:39] And we'll talk a little bit about
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[2:27:41] what that EOC response looked like
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[2:27:43] in the next couple of slides as well.
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[2:27:46] So last year's names,
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[2:27:48] we had a list of 21 names and we went
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[2:27:50] through 19 of them on this slide.
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[2:27:53] You can see they're color-coded
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[2:27:55] as to what developed into what.
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[2:27:57] So we had quite a few storms develop,
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[2:28:00] but we only saw one come our way.
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[2:28:05] So the forecast that we expected
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[2:28:07] last year was 12 to 17 named storms.
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[2:28:11] We did end up seeing
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[2:28:13] nineteen of those develop.
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[2:28:14] In terms of hurricanes,
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[2:28:16] we saw a forecast of five to nine expected.
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[2:28:19] They were right in the middle with
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[2:28:21] six and then major hurricanes.
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[2:28:23] We were expecting one to four and
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[2:28:25] three ended up developing last year
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[2:28:30] for the services that we
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[2:28:31] provided for Hurricane Adalia.
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[2:28:32] When we got that unexpected visit,
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[2:28:36] there were two shelters that we opened
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[2:28:39] for a total of 179 total evacuees,
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[2:28:42] not including pets.
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[2:28:43] We did have 20 pets as well because
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[2:28:45] we do have multiple pet friendly
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[2:28:47] shelters throughout the county.
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[2:28:49] We handled 187 calls to our
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[2:28:52] citizens information line,
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[2:28:53] the line that we activate to
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[2:28:55] provide information to folks when
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[2:28:57] we have any kind of emergency or
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[2:28:59] incident going on in the community.
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[2:29:01] And then we also in partnership
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[2:29:04] with our other county offices of
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[2:29:06] the distributed 16,055 sandbags.
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[2:29:11] So here's where we get into this
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[2:29:14] upcoming year's expectations.
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[2:29:15] Take it easy on us. What was that?
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[2:29:19] Take it easy on us. I'm so sorry.
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[2:29:22] So these are the names going
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[2:29:24] to start with the names.
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[2:29:26] So we'll start easy with the names.
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[2:29:27] So this is what we're expecting to see.
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[2:29:30] I am going to quickly mention for
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[2:29:33] no reason whatsoever that there
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[2:29:35] is a secondary list of names
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[2:29:36] that can be activated if we go
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[2:29:39] through all 21 of the first list.
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[2:29:41] And that list will be, you know,
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[2:29:44] put out once we get to that point.
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[2:29:46] If we do, if we do watch
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[2:29:50] that Hurricane Leslie there.
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[2:29:53] So what we are expecting this
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[2:29:55] season is an above normal season.
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[2:29:58] We do look at two different predictions.
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[2:30:00] We look at one from the
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[2:30:02] Colorado State University.
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[2:30:03] They are predicting to see 23 named storms,
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[2:30:06] hence why I mentioned if we go
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[2:30:07] through that first list of 21,
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[2:30:09] there's a secondary list
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[2:30:10] that will get activated.
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[2:30:12] Of those 23 named storms,
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[2:30:13] Colorado State is predicting that eleven
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[2:30:15] of those will be hurricanes and then
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[2:30:18] five of those will be major hurricanes.
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[2:30:20] So that category three or above
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[2:30:22] the National Hurricane Center
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[2:30:24] releases a range of what they are
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[2:30:27] expecting and they released an
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[2:30:29] expectation of 17 to 25 named storms,
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[2:30:32] 8 to 13 hurricanes and four
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[2:30:35] to seven major hurricanes.
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[2:30:38] So this is the highest prediction
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[2:30:39] that the National Hurricane
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[2:30:41] Center has ever released.
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[2:30:42] So again, I apologize,
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[2:30:45] it's the National Hurricane Center.
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[2:30:48] It is an 85% chance that we will
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[2:30:50] see that above normal season and
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[2:30:52] the forecasters are 70% confident
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[2:30:54] in this prediction for this year.
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[2:30:57] So that being said,
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[2:30:58] we're going to talk about how to
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[2:31:00] prepare for hurricane season.
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[2:31:01] As the county, we do preparations year round,
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[2:31:03] so we provide communication and
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[2:31:06] coordination with stakeholders across
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[2:31:07] the entire Lake County community.
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[2:31:10] We provide educational opportunities
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[2:31:11] for our residents as often as we can.
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[2:31:14] We'd actually just did our hurricane
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[2:31:16] Expo last month where residents were
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[2:31:18] able to come out and see all our
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[2:31:20] different partners and learn about
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[2:31:21] how they can prepare for hurricanes.
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[2:31:23] We just did our hurricane season kickoff
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[2:31:25] meeting with all of our stakeholders
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[2:31:27] to kind of set expectations for what
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[2:31:29] we can see for this hurricane season.
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[2:31:31] They've gotten these predictions
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[2:31:32] and we're all aware of what
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[2:31:34] the expectation is this year
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[2:31:38] for our residents.
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[2:31:39] The number one thing that I can tell
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[2:31:41] folks is to make a plan ahead of time.
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[2:31:43] Make sure that you know what you're
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[2:31:45] going to do if you're going to evacuate,
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[2:31:46] when you're going to evacuate,
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[2:31:48] and communicate that plan to
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[2:31:49] your loved ones, your friends.
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[2:31:51] Make sure that they know where you're
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[2:31:52] going and make sure that you're
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[2:31:54] planning for your entire family,
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[2:31:55] so that includes your pets and just
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[2:31:59] determine where you're going to take shelter.
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[2:32:00] If we are seeing a hurricane
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[2:32:02] affecting our community,
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[2:32:03] stay informed, get involved,
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[2:32:04] and we'll go over some
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[2:32:06] ways that you can do that.
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[2:32:07] But if you are planning on evacuating,
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[2:32:09] we do have a list of primary
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[2:32:11] shelters that we activate when we
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[2:32:13] see a storm threatening the county.
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[2:32:16] Not all of these may be activated at once.
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[2:32:18] We usually base that on conditions,
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[2:32:20] but these are the different
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[2:32:22] primary locations that we have.
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[2:32:24] The ones that are highlighted
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[2:32:25] are special needs.
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[2:32:26] So those are locations that will
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[2:32:29] accommodate folks who have dependency
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[2:32:31] on electricity for whatever reason
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[2:32:33] or they may need assistance
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[2:32:35] with activities of daily living.
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[2:32:37] And then any of the locations
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[2:32:38] that have an asterisk by their
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[2:32:40] name are pet friendly as well.
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[2:32:45] So if folks are not going to be evacuating
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[2:32:47] to a shelter and they are going to
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[2:32:49] stay in their home during a storm,
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[2:32:51] the best thing they can do is identify
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[2:32:53] where their safe room is going to be.
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[2:32:54] So that's going to be that
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[2:32:56] innermost location within their
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[2:32:58] home that is far away from windows,
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[2:33:00] doors, those kinds of things.
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[2:33:02] Keep in mind that the home environment
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[2:33:04] may be very loud and frightening,
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[2:33:06] staying away from those doors and windows,
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[2:33:08] skylights, even if it's interesting
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[2:33:10] to watch the storm go by.
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[2:33:12] Open the refrigerator only when necessary and
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[2:33:14] stay informed with local news and weather.
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[2:33:17] One of the ways to do that is by
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[2:33:20] purchasing or receiving from our
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[2:33:22] office a NOAA Weather radio which
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[2:33:25] can be programmed to your area,
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[2:33:27] which will give you the updates
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[2:33:28] that you need.
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[2:33:29] If there's, you know,
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[2:33:30] a hurricane watch or warning coming through,
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[2:33:33] tornado watch and warning,
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[2:33:34] it will alert residents to those situations.
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[2:33:37] And it does have battery backup as well.
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[2:33:41] alertlake.com will allow residents
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[2:33:42] to sign up for our direct alerts
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[2:33:44] that go directly to their phones.
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[2:33:46] And then if folks want to speak to a
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[2:33:48] real human, if they have questions,
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[2:33:50] concerns,
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[2:33:50] anything while the situation is ongoing,
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[2:33:53] they can call our citizens
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[2:33:54] information line at
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[2:33:58] 352-253-9999. And of course,
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[2:33:59] paying attention to the local media
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[2:34:00] outlets where we'll be working to get
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[2:34:02] information out to residents as well.
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[2:34:05] And then quickly after the hurricane,
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[2:34:08] just, you know, folks need to just
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[2:34:10] make sure they're being careful.
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[2:34:11] Some of the injuries and,
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[2:34:13] and worse that we've seen
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[2:34:14] happen after the hurricane.
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[2:34:16] So I just want to urge our residents to
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[2:34:18] stay safe even after the storm has passed
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[2:34:20] and stay informed of the latest information.
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[2:34:23] Stay away from the down, loose,
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[2:34:24] dangling power lines, floodwaters,
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[2:34:26] anything like that.
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[2:34:27] Take photos of the damages to your
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[2:34:29] house and drive only when necessary.
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[2:34:31] And the main thing is if you see a
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[2:34:33] traffic light that's out treated
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[2:34:34] as a four way stop because one of
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[2:34:36] the major things that we see is
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[2:34:37] traffic accidents after the storms.
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[2:34:41] And that is all I have.
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[2:34:43] So I can take any questions
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[2:34:44] if there are any
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[2:34:47] any questions. OK, well,
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[2:34:50] I just know that with your leadership
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[2:34:51] and your team's dedication that Lake
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[2:34:53] County is going to be well prepared.
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[2:34:56] Thank you so much. Thank you.
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[2:35:00] OK, Allison,
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[2:35:07] good morning again.
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[2:35:07] For the record, Allison Teslia,
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[2:35:09] Director of the Office of Management Budget,
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[2:35:12] today I'm here to provide an
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[2:35:14] update for the fiscal year 2025
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[2:35:16] proposed budget development.
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[2:35:19] Here's an outline of some of
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[2:35:21] the items we'll touch today.
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[2:35:23] We'll talk about where we
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[2:35:24] are in the budget process.
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[2:35:25] We'll talk about the estimated
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[2:35:27] property values.
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[2:35:28] We'll do an overview of the general fund,
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[2:35:30] an overview of the department
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[2:35:33] budget request from their workshops.
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[2:35:35] We'll talk about the constitutional
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[2:35:37] budgets and some of the
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[2:35:39] considerations in the next steps.
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[2:35:41] OK, so here's an overview of where
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[2:35:43] we are in the budget process.
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[2:35:45] In February, we had budget,
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[2:35:47] the budget strategies workshop and
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[2:35:48] then throughout the month of May,
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[2:35:50] the departments presented their budgets.
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[2:35:53] We received the preliminary taxable
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[2:35:56] values on June 1st and then today
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[2:35:59] we are going over the summary,
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[2:36:02] OK, here's the best estimate
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[2:36:04] property values as of June 1st.
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[2:36:06] The Avalorum revenues are based on the
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[2:36:09] best estimate property values provided,
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[2:36:11] which indicated a 14.8%
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[2:36:14] growth in property values.
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[2:36:17] That reflects about a 5.1 billion
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[2:36:20] increase and about half of
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[2:36:22] that was for new construction
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[2:36:24] which was about 2.4 billion.
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[2:36:25] And on July 1st,
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[2:36:27] we will receive the best or the
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[2:36:32] the estimated taxable values.
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[2:36:37] OK. So in the general fund
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[2:36:39] that I'll be presenting,
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[2:36:40] we're using the Avalorum revenues
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[2:36:42] based on the property values
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[2:36:44] that we received June 1st.
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[2:36:46] We're using a status quo
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[2:36:47] mileage rate of Five Point O364.
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[2:36:50] It does not include the Lake
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[2:36:51] County Water Authority updates.
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[2:36:53] You'll be getting a presentation
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[2:36:55] at the next meeting for the water
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[2:36:57] authority and it does not include
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[2:36:58] the tax collectors budget request.
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[2:37:03] OK, so here's a summary of the
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[2:37:06] general fund using the current
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[2:37:08] mileage rate of Five Point O364.
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[2:37:12] The Avalorum increase is based on the
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[2:37:14] the taxable values we were provided.
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[2:37:17] The sheriff's revenue is for the contracted
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[2:37:20] services that his office provides.
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[2:37:23] The fund balance for fiscal year 2025
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[2:37:25] does not include the PO carry forward
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[2:37:27] amounts and reflects the fund reflects
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[2:37:31] funds available based on estimated
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[2:37:34] cost savings for the fiscal year 2024.
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[2:37:38] As for the expenditures,
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[2:37:39] we have the most control over the blue.
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[2:37:41] The blue lines,
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[2:37:42] the county departments and offices as a
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[2:37:45] whole increase by about 4.3 million and
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[2:37:48] it includes proposed wage adjustments and
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[2:37:51] increases for insurance contributions.
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[2:37:53] The CRA payments are estimates based
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[2:37:56] on the property values we received.
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[2:37:58] The judicial support reflects anticipated
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[2:38:01] increases for IT supplies and software,
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[2:38:03] utility costs and repairs and maintenance.
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[2:38:07] The medical examiner is an estimate
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[2:38:10] based on contracted increases and a
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[2:38:13] reallocation for the population estimates.
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[2:38:15] I'll be talking about the
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[2:38:17] constitutional budgets in a few sides.
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[2:38:20] The proposed budget fully funds
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[2:38:22] all of the requests.
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[2:38:23] It also includes an additional
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[2:38:25] $3,000,000 reserve for Rd.
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[2:38:28] resurfacing and with the the total,
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[2:38:30] the reserves will increase
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[2:38:32] to about 49.5 million,
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[2:38:33] which is about 20% of the
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[2:38:35] general fund expenditures.
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[2:38:40] OK, here's a recap of the request
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[2:38:42] that were presented during the
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[2:38:44] department's budget workshops.
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[2:38:46] The majority of the departments
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[2:38:47] are seeing increases related to
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[2:38:49] the proposed wage adjustment,
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[2:38:51] increases in insurance premiums,
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[2:38:53] and anticipated increases
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[2:38:54] for supplies, contracts,
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[2:38:56] fuel costs and repairs and maintenance.
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[2:39:01] items on the first one for HR
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[2:39:11] For information technology,
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[2:39:18] Parks and trails reflects increases
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[2:39:25] Library Services reflects an additional
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[2:39:28] $5000 per member library to increase
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[2:39:31] the total appropriations to about
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[2:39:34] $50,000 and it includes an estimated
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[2:39:40] Housing and Community services
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[2:39:42] reflects available grant funding that
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[2:40:14] Planning and Zoning reflects a restructuring
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[2:40:20] the Regional Planning Council study,
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[2:40:22] the comp plan update and includes
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[2:40:28] the software replacement project.
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[2:40:30] Fire Rescue and EMS includes
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[2:40:49] Public safety support reflects a
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[2:40:53] that are expected in fiscal year 2024.
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[2:40:58] Transit reflects a decrease for
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[2:41:13] reflects a decrease for also the
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[2:41:22] Here's the Constitutional budget request.
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[2:41:25] The Clerk of Courts budget request
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[2:41:27] includes increases for wage adjustments,
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[2:41:29] insurance, and FRS rates.
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[2:41:31] The Property Appraisers request
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[2:41:33] also includes wage adjustments,
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[2:41:35] insurance and FRS rates,
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[2:41:37] but also includes new
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[2:41:38] technology and software costs.
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[2:41:40] The Supervisor of Elections request
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[2:41:44] has an anticipated reduction related to
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[2:41:46] the holding 2 less elections then they
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[2:41:49] then will be held in fiscal year 2024.
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[2:41:53] The sheriff's request includes
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[2:41:54] sworn step plan and COLA increases,
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[2:42:00] additional personnel to accommodate growth,
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[2:42:02] anticipated increases for the inmate
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[2:42:08] fuel and other operating costs.
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[2:42:10] And then as mentioned before,
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[2:42:11] the tax collectors budget is
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[2:42:13] not due until August 1st.
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[2:42:14] So this is an approximation based
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[2:42:23] OK, here's a breakdown of the
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[2:42:26] most recent fire assessment study
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[2:42:28] which was presented earlier today.
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[2:42:30] The recommended the recommendation
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[2:42:35] which will be offset by a
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[2:42:37] reduction to the MSTU.
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[2:42:42] Here's the proposed solid waste
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[2:42:44] assessment rates, which reflect
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[2:42:47] These rates are based on the service level.
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[2:42:51] The rates on the left are one
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[2:42:53] time a week pick up and then
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[2:42:54] on the right are twice a week.
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[2:43:00] OK, As you know, the voters approved
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[2:43:04] an increase in the minimum wage.
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[2:43:07] Currently it is $12.00 an hour and it'll
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[2:43:10] go into effect to 13 on 930 of this year.
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[2:43:16] It will increase $1.00 each year
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[2:43:18] until it reaches $15.00 an hour.
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[2:43:20] Currently the county wide minimum wage
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[2:43:24] is $14.00 an hour and we're proposing
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[2:43:26] to adjust the minimum wage to $15.00
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[2:43:29] an hour for all BCC employees plus
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[2:43:31] any adjustments for compression.
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[2:43:38] OK. And then here's the next steps
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[2:43:40] in the budget process. In July,
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[2:43:42] will receive the certified taxable values,
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[2:43:45] will present the recommended budget.
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[2:43:47] We'll set maximum mileage rates and
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[2:43:49] adopt the assessment resolutions.
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[2:43:51] In August, we'll receive
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[2:43:53] We'll hold our infrastructure sales tax
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[2:43:55] budget workshops and public hearing.
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[2:43:57] And then in September we will hold our
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[2:43:59] public hearings to adopt the budget,
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[2:44:01] mileage and assessment rates.
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[2:44:05] Answer any questions.
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[2:44:06] We have some OK, any questions.
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[2:44:08] Commissioner Parks,
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[2:44:10] could you go back to Slide 10, please?
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[2:44:13] A question and then a comment
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[2:44:15] just so I can confirm the county
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[2:44:17] support for constitutional officers,
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[2:44:19] that's in addition to what their request is,
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[2:44:22] that's some of the smaller constitutional
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[2:44:24] officer departments as well, right?
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[2:44:25] So that's actually funding that we
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[2:44:27] provide on behalf of the constitutional
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[2:44:30] officers out of the general fund directly.
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[2:44:32] So it could be things like utility,
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[2:44:42] But that's an addition to the IT is
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[2:44:44] an addition to the transfer, correct.
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[2:44:47] And just again refresh my memory.
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[2:44:51] So there are some functions that
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[2:44:54] we basically have to provide,
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[2:44:56] we have to fund per state statute for
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[2:44:59] the constitutional officers, correct?
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[2:45:01] We have to provide facilities, we correct.
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[2:45:04] Yes. All right.
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[2:45:06] And there has there ever been any
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[2:45:08] discussion about what the state,
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[2:45:09] about the state stepping in and
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[2:45:10] providing more of that or is that
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[2:45:12] that maybe that's for a different day,
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[2:45:13] but I haven't heard of anything
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[2:45:16] being discussed,
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[2:45:17] but I could certainly look into it.
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[2:45:19] I don't know if they've
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[2:45:21] had those conversations.
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[2:45:22] I wouldn't hold my breath.
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[2:45:24] I know,
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[2:45:25] I know Commissioner Blake had brought
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[2:45:28] up at one point tearing or line iteming
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[2:45:34] each saying that the the public pays for.
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[2:45:40] I think you wanted to have each
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[2:45:42] constitutional officer down
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[2:45:43] there and then the general fund.
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[2:45:45] Is that right? Going to the state
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[2:45:47] legislature on your trim notice?
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[2:45:50] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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[2:45:50] You're looking at me blank and I'm like,
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[2:45:52] you're right, you're right.
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[2:45:53] Yeah. OK.
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[2:45:53] Yeah.
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[2:45:54] To show, are we still working on that?
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[2:45:57] So it is my understanding that that we
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[2:46:00] cannot separate them out on the trim
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[2:46:02] notice unless it is a separate MSTU.
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[2:46:06] So I cannot break down the general
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[2:46:09] fund mileage by function so to speak.
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[2:46:12] Yeah.
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[2:46:12] And I so we couldn't,
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[2:46:15] we couldn't put something like this
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[2:46:17] in our trim notice so that the public
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[2:46:19] knows exactly where their money's going.
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[2:46:21] No,
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[2:46:23] that's why we try to provide the
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[2:46:26] documents like a dollar of your
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[2:46:28] taxes where that goes and as much as.
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[2:46:30] But we cannot put it in the trim notice.
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[2:46:32] Now could could we not ask the
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[2:46:35] property appraiser to have like
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[2:46:38] a little sublet flyer put in the
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[2:46:47] He could be I don't know the I
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[2:46:48] don't know the galleries.
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[2:46:49] I mean we all have seen it before.
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[2:46:51] Where inserts. The inserts.
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[2:46:53] Yeah, I can ask about an insert, right.
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[2:46:56] That's what I'm talking about at
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[2:46:57] least it's better than nothing.
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[2:46:58] Yeah, well, we had talked about an Ms.
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[2:47:01] to use as well, but that's right,
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[2:47:03] specifically the notice is a good right.
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[2:47:06] OK. All right. Thank you, Allison.
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[2:47:10] Oh, just real quick, sorry, hold on.
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[2:47:13] So the the how much is was set
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[2:47:15] aside for the roads,
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[2:47:17] it's only three million, right.
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[2:47:18] So in the general fund it's 3
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[2:47:20] million and then with the other
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[2:47:23] sources we're almost at 5 million.
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[2:47:25] But other sources,
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[2:47:26] what infrastructure sales tax.
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[2:47:28] Oh, gotcha. Yeah, All right.
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[2:47:30] What what percentage just of the
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[2:47:31] general fund budget that I'm just
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[2:47:33] trying to keep track of our what we
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[2:47:34] have talked about as policy that we
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[2:47:36] would spend out of general fund for risk.
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[2:47:38] So look it up.
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[2:47:39] I'm not 100%.
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[2:47:39] We don't have a policy.
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[2:47:40] We should be up at 4:00.
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[2:47:41] We do not have a policy and it's not 4%.
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[2:47:43] I know we're not at 4 percent,
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[2:47:45] 4% of the total revenue.
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[2:47:46] So what is the total revenue for Avalorum?
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[2:47:50] Total revenue is two O 1, two O 1.
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[2:47:56] So 20,000 is 10%, five percent is 10,000.
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[2:47:59] So you're looking at about 8:00 or a million,
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[2:48:01] sorry, about 8,000,000 for 4%.
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[2:48:05] With that we would need for about 4%,
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[2:48:07] correct? Yeah.
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[2:48:07] And we're only at three and
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[2:48:09] we're only at three, right.
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[2:48:10] But we're doing other things.
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[2:48:11] We increase the impact fee, Rd.
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[2:48:15] impact fee.
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[2:48:15] I mean we've done some things
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[2:48:17] offset for resurfacing,
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[2:48:18] that is true.
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[2:48:19] But but everything that we do for
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[2:48:22] resurfacing can everything we save on
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[2:48:25] resurfacing can go toward building.
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[2:48:28] Yeah, I just,
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[2:48:28] I,
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[2:48:29] I agree with Commissioner Park so
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[2:48:30] that the there was a target that we
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[2:48:33] were working towards and I think that
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[2:48:34] we need to keep that at the forefront.
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[2:48:37] So we're currently at 19%.
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[2:48:39] We could take down the reserve to 17%
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[2:48:43] which I think has been an unspoken kind
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[2:48:45] of agreed upon percentage of general
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[2:48:48] fund if you would like to do that.
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[2:48:50] And that would provide an additional maybe
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[2:48:52] million and a half or so possibly two.
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[2:48:57] And then the next question is
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[2:48:58] if we had $30 million could,
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[2:49:01] could our could we even do that in a year?
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[2:49:04] Well, I mean that's that's
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[2:49:06] the question 3:00 to 4:00.
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[2:49:08] So it's not we're not even at that question.
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[2:49:10] I mean, if we, that would,
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[2:49:12] that would be a great problem to have, right?
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[2:49:14] So, and, and that's the thing,
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[2:49:15] it just,
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[2:49:16] it depends on the availability of
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[2:49:19] vendors to be able to spend the funding.
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[2:49:21] Some years we're able to spend it quickly,
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[2:49:22] some years we can't.
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[2:49:24] But I, I on that point,
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[2:49:25] though, I imagine I'm not a,
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[2:49:27] I'm not a road contractor,
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[2:49:28] but I imagine if you lock
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[2:49:31] down contracts with them,
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[2:49:33] they would do it.
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[2:49:33] And it may take,
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[2:49:34] it may stray into the next budget year.
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[2:49:37] But if you,
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[2:49:38] if we had the additional say we're up to 5
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[2:49:40] million and you could lock down another Rd.
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[2:49:42] project with that,
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[2:49:43] that we can certainly lock it down.
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[2:49:45] Here's the balance we have to make.
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[2:49:47] When you lock it down and it
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[2:49:48] takes two years to complete,
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[2:49:50] that funding is unavailable for
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[2:49:52] other shovel ready projects.
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[2:49:54] So you may have two years
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[2:49:56] of it sitting on
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[2:49:57] APO while we're in line with a vendor.
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[2:49:59] So you have to find that sweet spot
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[2:50:01] to make sure that you're not tying up
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[2:50:03] funding for two years that could be
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[2:50:05] used on other things because there's
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[2:50:07] a lot of needs within the county.
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[2:50:09] So that's what we're trying to determine.
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[2:50:11] Where's that? Where's that sweet spot?
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[2:50:13] You know, if we could come up
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[2:50:15] with 20 million a year,
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[2:50:16] but if we could only spend 5,
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[2:50:18] then you've got 15 locked up for a year or
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[2:50:21] two that could be used on other things.
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[2:50:23] Yeah. I just think that, you know,
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[2:50:25] there's some roads that are fours and
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[2:50:27] fives that with another year or so,
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[2:50:29] then the cost is triple to redo it a four.
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[2:50:31] Absolutely.
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[2:50:31] Absolutely.
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[2:50:32] So and that's and that's why I say
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[2:50:35] we're trying to make sure that we have
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[2:50:37] as much available funding as we can
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[2:50:39] get done in one year without tying up
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[2:50:41] funding for other things over multiple years.
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[2:50:44] Well,
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[2:50:44] I think that would be a good problem to have.
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[2:50:46] Like you said, I would test it.
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[2:50:49] But yes,
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[2:50:49] the I only just ask that because the the
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[2:50:53] more that we can dedicate towards roads,
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[2:50:55] this is not a frivolous thing.
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[2:50:57] This is just taking the reserve,
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[2:50:59] taking the excess from the growth and putting
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[2:51:01] it towards what truly would make sense.
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[2:51:03] It's like #1 complaint we get
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[2:51:05] is about the road resurfacing.
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[2:51:07] So I think that we've got to try to
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[2:51:10] get back on that target and make
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[2:51:12] that our goal so that we can do a
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[2:51:14] better job of keeping up with it.
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[2:51:17] And I think that there's going to be
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[2:51:19] the public will be more receptive
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[2:51:20] to this question of whether you
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[2:51:22] roll back or not.
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[2:51:23] I mean,
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[2:51:23] if we're not rolling back mileage rate,
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[2:51:26] then what are what is the
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[2:51:27] public getting in return?
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[2:51:28] And keeping up with the roads is going to be,
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[2:51:31] I think a key part of that argument.
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[2:51:33] The other part of the argument will be
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[2:51:36] hearing from the sheriff about exactly
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[2:51:39] where this 16.9% increase will be going.
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[2:51:45] And I think we, I guess we will
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[2:51:48] get that presentation from him.
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[2:51:50] Yeah,
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[2:51:50] we got a meeting scheduled
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[2:51:52] for sometime this month.
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[2:51:53] You're you're going to meet with him.
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[2:51:55] Will you come in July then perhaps and
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[2:51:57] then I'll let you know after the meeting.
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[2:52:00] Yeah,
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[2:52:00] I think it's really important
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[2:52:01] for him and he usually does come
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[2:52:03] and goes over everything with us.
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[2:52:05] But I think it's really important for
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[2:52:06] us to be able to point particularly
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[2:52:08] to the things that would be he would
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[2:52:10] be able to address with this increase.
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[2:52:12] Because I people want to know because
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[2:52:14] if you're not going to roll back,
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[2:52:16] then what are you using the
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[2:52:18] additional funding for?
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[2:52:19] And you've got to be able to,
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[2:52:21] we've got to be able to provide details.
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[2:52:23] I think I agree.
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[2:52:26] And that's why that's how the Ms.
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[2:52:27] one of the reasons the MSTU
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[2:52:29] conversation came up in
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[2:52:30] the Lake 100 requested that we
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[2:52:31] at least do a study on that was,
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[2:52:33] was to make sure there was
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[2:52:35] some transparency there and
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[2:52:36] that and that the political,
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[2:52:40] say the political weight of that
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[2:52:42] decision is properly attributed. All
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[2:52:46] right, thank you. Thank you.
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[2:52:50] OK. We're going to move on
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[2:52:54] down to our public hearings.
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[2:52:55] I'm at least going to get
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[2:52:57] through Tab 17 because we've
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[2:52:59] got people here for Tab 17,
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[2:53:01] and we'll see how it goes from there.
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[2:53:03] All right, this is a public hearing.
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[2:53:06] You don't need to fill out a card to speak.
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[2:53:09] You don't have to.
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[2:53:11] But you do have to admit ex parte contact.
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[2:53:15] Is there any ex parte contact on here?
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[2:53:18] No, there's not.
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[2:53:19] All right, so we'll move on down to Melanie.
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[2:53:23] OK, so it'll be TAP 16 first.
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[2:53:25] This is an ordinance to the Board of
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[2:53:27] County Commissioners of Lake County,
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[2:53:28] Florida, amending the following sections
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[2:53:29] of Lake County Code Appendix C,
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[2:53:31] Land Development Regulations,
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[2:53:32] Chapter 2 entitled Definitions and
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[2:53:34] section 3O1O3 entitled Schedule
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[2:53:36] of Permitted and Conditional Uses,
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[2:53:38] defining and permitting floating solar
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[2:53:39] facilities and all zoning districts,
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[2:53:41] providing for severability,
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[2:53:41] providing for inclusion and code,
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[2:53:43] providing for filing with Department of
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[2:53:44] State and providing for an effective date.
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[2:53:46] This is first hearing today,
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[2:53:48] so we're looking for a vote for the
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[2:53:49] board to move it to the second hearing,
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[2:53:51] which will be on June 25th.
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[2:53:53] And this is a change to our code that's
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[2:53:56] required by a 2022 legislative bill.
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[2:54:00] Motion to approve public
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[2:54:04] hearing. Is there anybody in the
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[2:54:06] audience that would like to speak?
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[2:54:08] Anybody online?
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[2:54:09] We have a motion for approval.
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[2:54:12] We have a motion to 2nd.
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[2:54:13] Any further discussion?
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[2:54:16] All those in favor say aye, aye.
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[2:54:18] Opposed. Motion carries 50.
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[2:54:21] OK, moving on down to Tab 17.
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[2:54:24] I do have speaker cards on this,
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[2:54:25] so we'll let Melanie go first and
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[2:54:29] then we'll bring it up to the public.
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[2:54:32] This will be an ordinance to the Board
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[2:54:33] of County Commissioners of Lake County,
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[2:54:34] Florida, adopting a Second Amendment
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[2:54:36] to the Interlocal Service Boundary
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[2:54:37] Agreement between the City of Umatilla
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[2:54:39] and Lake County dated April 5th, 2011.
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[2:54:41] Providing for severability.
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[2:54:42] Providing for effective date.
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[2:54:44] Providing for filing with
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[2:54:45] Department of State.
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[2:54:46] If you choose to approve this today,
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[2:54:47] it will come Ordinance 2024-15.
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[2:54:52] OK. Is there any questions before I bring
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[2:54:55] it open to the public? See you none.
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[2:54:57] I'll have them. Chris Creech,
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[2:55:11] Hello, good morning,
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[2:55:12] almost afternoon. Thank you Mr.
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[2:55:15] Chairman and other commissioners for
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[2:55:17] bringing this ordinance in front of you guys.
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[2:55:19] So I'm Chris Creech.
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[2:55:21] I live in Lake County,
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[2:55:23] 41620 Silver Drive.
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[2:55:24] It's my residence, my personal residence.
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[2:55:27] This ordinance effects we're looking
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[2:55:30] to expand the ISBA interlocal agreement
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[2:55:34] between the county and and Umatilla.
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[2:55:37] We believe it's a it's a logical move
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[2:55:40] properties already served by even
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[2:55:42] till in certain factors being water.
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[2:55:45] And I'm here for any questions
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[2:55:47] you guys might have,
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[2:55:48] but looking for a a good favorable
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[2:55:50] vote today from you guys and and if
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[2:55:52] you guys have any questions about it.
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[2:55:55] OK, thank you.
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[2:56:02] All right. Mr. Clifford Williamson,
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[2:56:16] good morning, everyone.
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[2:56:17] This is my first time to a meeting like this.
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[2:56:20] I'll apologize if I get things wrong,
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[2:56:22] but I'm a bit concerned about Mr.
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[2:56:25] Creech's application for voluntary
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[2:56:27] annexation of his property.
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[2:56:29] Is it going to be a
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[2:56:32] domicile residency or not?
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[2:56:33] If it is and he's the mayor of Umatilla,
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[2:56:36] he's leaving the city limits,
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[2:56:38] but by this application is bringing
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[2:56:42] the city limits to his property,
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[2:56:45] including it.
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[2:56:46] This makes me feel very uncomfortable
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[2:56:49] of somebody in the position like
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[2:56:52] this to apply for annexation to city
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[2:56:55] limit when the mayor has to be in
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[2:56:58] the city limits to keep his job.
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[2:57:00] That's my understanding of it and it
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[2:57:02] brings a few things of concern to do this.
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[2:57:07] Is this going to set a precedence for
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[2:57:09] anybody who wants to annex to the city?
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[2:57:15] They don't have to live in
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[2:57:16] the city. You just annex it.
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[2:57:19] I don't agree with that and
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[2:57:27] I'm sorry. It's just that there's
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[2:57:28] so many things going through.
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[2:57:30] I only just learned about this recently so
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[2:57:32] I've not had all the legal updates on it,
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[2:57:35] but the fact that the the mayor has
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[2:57:38] this underground business RCM and
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[2:57:41] he's doing stuff around my city.
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[2:57:43] In fact my street, I live at 85 Whitcomb Ave.
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[2:57:45] I've lived there for 22 years in New Matilla.
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[2:57:50] And how did this firm get the job?
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[2:57:55] I believe they're doing this.
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[2:57:56] What? I may be wrong but from what
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[2:57:58] I've found out up to now, I'm not.
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[2:58:00] So how is this applicable?
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[2:58:03] Annexation into the city?
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[2:58:06] The way this is perceived at the moment
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[2:58:10] is wrong, and that's all I have to say.
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[2:58:12] Any questions?
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[2:58:16] Thank you. All right.
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[2:58:17] Thank you,
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[2:58:20] Miss Barbara Johnson. Good
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[2:58:32] morning. It's been a long morning.
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[2:58:36] I am Barbara Johnson and I am from Muratella.
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[2:58:39] I live in Silver Beach Heights
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[2:58:42] and built a home there in 85.
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[2:58:45] It's a great place. It's in the county.
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[2:58:48] We bought it because we
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[2:58:50] wanted to be in a closed area.
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[2:58:54] We are in the county.
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[2:58:57] Lots of trees, very little traffic.
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[2:59:01] We I was a realtor in Yumatella for 32 years,
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[2:59:06] so I like Yumatella.
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[2:59:08] My husband born and raised in Yumatella.
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[2:59:11] We live where we live in Silver Beach
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[2:59:14] because we want to be in the county.
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[2:59:17] I was very impressed by the early part
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[2:59:20] of the meeting for the enthusiasm
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[2:59:24] for the ISBA that the other parts
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[2:59:27] of our county are enthralled with.
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[2:59:31] They are undeveloped properties.
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[2:59:34] Through the last few weeks and months we
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[2:59:38] have had discussions with our City Council.
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[2:59:42] They are wanting to make an
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[2:59:44] agreement with the county.
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[2:59:46] This is the city of Umatella that
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[2:59:48] they want to become part of ISBA.
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[2:59:52] So and I from this morning's I can see
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[2:59:56] how other areas would be very inclined
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[2:59:59] to enjoy this and benefit by it.
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[3:00:03] When that first came up,
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[3:00:04] the ISBA and we were instructed that
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[3:00:08] our city had talked to the county,
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[3:00:10] that that was the city's idea and it
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[3:00:13] was really good idea for our area.
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[3:00:15] Well,
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[3:00:17] we live on a lake and we're still in
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[3:00:22] the county. Now, if indeed we have Mr.
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[3:00:27] Creech, I wasn't going to say his name,
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[3:00:29] but he already started.
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[3:00:32] He has been in Yumatel,
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[3:00:35] the city of Yumatel, the mayor,
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[3:00:37] but he chose to move to our subdivision,
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[3:00:39] which we love.
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[3:00:41] It's a beautiful home he bought
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[3:00:43] and now he wants to be in the city.
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[3:00:46] Now you see,
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[3:00:48] we understand that when the city
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[3:00:50] is right next to us,
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[3:00:52] we can be absorbed if we agree.
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[3:00:57] But we aren't going to agree and we
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[3:00:59] don't think we deserve the burden
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[3:01:01] of being pressured into that.
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[3:01:03] Our subdivision is is developed out.
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[3:01:07] It's best for people that don't have
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[3:01:09] it developed out. We are there.
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[3:01:11] We are full. I, I thought you we were given.
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[3:01:15] I have worked on petitions for
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[3:01:17] weeks in our subdivision.
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[3:01:19] You were given those copies.
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[3:01:21] We do not want to be in the county.
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[3:01:25] I can see where it's good for other areas.
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[3:01:27] We are developed out where we live.
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[3:01:31] That's all I want to say.
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[3:01:35] Thank you, Mr. Tom Rose.
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[3:02:05] We were, we had some people from the
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[3:02:08] Silver Beach community here last week
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[3:02:10] presented you with a petition with the
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[3:02:14] around 115 signatures of residents that
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[3:02:19] are opposed to this annexation ispace
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[3:02:23] or whatever it is and presented you
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[3:02:27] with some detail of why we oppose it.
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[3:02:31] So I'm not going to go any further into that.
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[3:02:34] I'm going to kind of cut to the bottom line
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[3:02:38] of what I think we're dealing with here.
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[3:02:40] I don't think there's anything
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[3:02:44] with this proposal that serves the
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[3:02:48] citizens of Lake County,
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[3:02:51] citizens of Umatilla or the residents
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[3:02:54] of Silver Beach in any way whatsoever.
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[3:02:57] I think all that this
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[3:03:00] would accomplish if passed,
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[3:03:02] it serves the self-interest of one individual
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[3:03:08] and this is just plain wrong.
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[3:03:14] So Commissioner Shields, Parks,
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[3:03:18] Smith, Campion and Blake, do the
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[3:03:24] right thing and vote No, Thank you.
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[3:03:32] Thank you. All right. Jeffrey Preston.
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[3:03:42] OK.
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[3:03:46] All right. It's all the cards I have.
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[3:03:48] Anybody else on in the audience
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[3:03:50] would like to speak. Anybody online?
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[3:03:54] OK. Bringing it back to the board,
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[3:04:00] I have questions, but I have a question.
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[3:04:02] You go ahead and start.
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[3:04:03] I have questions too.
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[3:04:03] My question is, again,
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[3:04:04] I'm just trying to understand this because
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[3:04:06] it seemed like a pretty simple request,
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[3:04:07] but somebody wants to voluntarily annex,
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[3:04:10] get annexed in and we have to change
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[3:04:14] the ISBA to allow that, right?
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[3:04:17] That's essentially what we're doing.
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[3:04:20] OK, yeah.
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[3:04:21] The the property is not contiguous to
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[3:04:23] the city limits and this particular
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[3:04:26] ISBA didn't give them blanket
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[3:04:28] authorization to do non contiguous.
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[3:04:30] So that's why they're here for an amendment.
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[3:04:34] I just want to make sure I understand
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[3:04:35] it's the first time I've had a
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[3:04:36] chance to ask these questions,
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[3:04:37] but it so is the purpose of
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[3:04:40] of this coming before us.
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[3:04:42] So can can I direct a question to
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[3:04:44] the the the folks who are here is the
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[3:04:47] person is the reason this is before
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[3:04:49] us so that you can remain mayor after
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[3:04:50] you've moved out of the city limits?
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[3:04:59] Thank you. Commissioner Blake,
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[3:05:01] I'll cut straight to the chase.
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[3:05:02] And the answer that question is yes,
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[3:05:05] I'm trying to do this the right way.
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[3:05:07] I've lived in Umatilla my entire life.
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[3:05:09] I serve the city of Umatilla,
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[3:05:12] my constituents,
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[3:05:13] the residents with my heart and soul
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[3:05:15] trying to do this the proper way.
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[3:05:18] Bought a piece of property,
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[3:05:19] I knew it was annexable.
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[3:05:22] The community had some concerns
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[3:05:23] trying to address that,
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[3:05:25] doing it with the ISBA and not
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[3:05:27] shoving it through across the water
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[3:05:29] body and things of that nature.
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[3:05:32] So we thought this was the most logical path.
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[3:05:34] Obviously there's some pushback on that,
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[3:05:36] but for lack of a better term, I'm,
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[3:05:39] I'm not a carpetbagger and I'm not
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[3:05:41] going to go rent an apartment city
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[3:05:42] in utility to keep my my mayorship.
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[3:05:44] So trying to do it the correct way.
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[3:05:47] So yes, Sir, thank you.
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[3:05:51] So if that's the case,
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[3:05:52] of course, I love you, Matila.
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[3:05:53] Love Scott seems like a nice guy.
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[3:05:55] I, I, I don't feel comfortable
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[3:05:58] using city time and county
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[3:06:01] time and the legal process if
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[3:06:04] you've chosen to leave the city.
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[3:06:06] I totally understand that.
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[3:06:08] And it's obviously it, you know,
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[3:06:10] it's a boundary that exists.
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[3:06:12] I'm not comfortable doing this for
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[3:06:15] political reasons that regardless
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[3:06:17] of how much I might like an
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[3:06:19] individual or or a municipality,
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[3:06:21] I'm not comfortable using this
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[3:06:22] process using county time,
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[3:06:24] using city time just to allow
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[3:06:27] someone to continue to be mayor.
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[3:06:35] OK, well I'm of the same opinion
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[3:06:41] we are tasked not to have.
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[3:06:45] When we do annexation, we kind of look
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[3:06:49] at trying not to create an enclave.
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[3:06:52] This is certainly would be an enclave.
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[3:06:57] And like you Commissioner Blake,
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[3:06:59] you know the rules going into it.
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[3:07:02] You know what's the expectations are.
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[3:07:05] I'm sure Mr.
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[3:07:07] Creech is a very dedicated,
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[3:07:08] hard working guy for the
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[3:07:11] citizens of Umatilla,
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[3:07:13] but I am extremely uncomfortable with
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[3:07:18] approving an annexation that's one
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[3:07:22] property for one sole purpose only.
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[3:07:29] And with that, how would
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[3:07:31] the board like to move?
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[3:07:32] I'll make the motion to deny approval.
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[3:07:38] We have motion to deny. I'll pass the gavel
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[3:07:45] 2nd
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[3:07:49] got a motion to 2nd. Any more discussion?
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[3:07:51] Just a couple things I want to say
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[3:07:54] because it's been kind of a hard
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[3:07:56] situation knowing you've got one
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[3:07:58] person on one hand that is asking to
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[3:08:00] be annexed in into the city limits.
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[3:08:02] And we get, we often times we
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[3:08:05] have people coming before us,
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[3:08:07] they're upset because of annexation
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[3:08:08] is going to be like a big development.
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[3:08:11] It's going to change the character of
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[3:08:13] an unincorporated area by virtue of
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[3:08:15] property next door being developed.
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[3:08:17] You know, And so this is like
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[3:08:18] really unique because you already
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[3:08:20] have a house on the property.
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[3:08:21] You have a, a neighborhood that's
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[3:08:23] already completely built out.
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[3:08:25] And it's just simply a request of
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[3:08:27] a property owner saying I want
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[3:08:29] to be inside the city limits.
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[3:08:31] If you add on the part where I
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[3:08:33] want to be on in the city limits
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[3:08:36] because I want to serve as mayor,
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[3:08:41] I can look at it both ways.
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[3:08:42] I can look at it like, well,
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[3:08:44] then you shouldn't move out
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[3:08:46] side of the city limits.
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[3:08:47] You should make sure that the
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[3:08:50] annexation occurs and everything's
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[3:08:53] in place before you make the move.
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[3:08:56] Otherwise, it can be certainly looked at,
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[3:09:00] I think the way that Commissioner
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[3:09:03] Blake explained it and described it.
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[3:09:08] And yet from a property rights standpoint,
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[3:09:10] if somebody wants to make an application
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[3:09:13] to annex and the city says yes,
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[3:09:15] we're willing to annex you.
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[3:09:19] We've never gotten,
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[3:09:21] we've never intervened except in
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[3:09:24] those instances where it changed the
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[3:09:26] character of an area and we felt that we
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[3:09:28] were protecting unincorporated residents in,
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[3:09:30] in this particular situation,
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[3:09:32] the residents in Silver Beach Heights,
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[3:09:35] they this doesn't force them or
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[3:09:38] change their status. They don't,
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[3:09:40] they're not going to be forced to annex.
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[3:09:42] They can't be forced to annex unless there's
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[3:09:44] a referendum by the people in Silver
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[3:09:47] Beach Heights to want to want to annex.
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[3:09:49] So, you know,
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[3:09:50] just trying to call balls and strikes here.
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[3:09:52] And, and I get why on one
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[3:09:54] hand it looks questionable.
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[3:09:56] On the other hand,
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[3:09:58] it's like a property owner wants to annex.
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[3:10:00] What's it? It's but, but but in,
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[3:10:04] in, in the world of, you know,
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[3:10:07] equities and you're looking at appearances.
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[3:10:11] It it does create that sort of,
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[3:10:15] you know, sort of yucky feeling like,
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[3:10:17] well, if you're going to do this, get,
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[3:10:19] get all your ducks in a row first.
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[3:10:22] And I would say I, I, I'm like you.
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[3:10:24] I think there's,
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[3:10:25] you can look at it both ways and you know,
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[3:10:28] as, as the, the mayor said,
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[3:10:30] who I, I know just happens to be a
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[3:10:32] very good mayor too, by the way.
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[3:10:34] But he's wanted to do it this way instead
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[3:10:37] of trying to go across some water body,
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[3:10:40] you know, to,
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[3:10:41] to get his annexation done that way,
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[3:10:42] which I guess he could still
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[3:10:43] do if we turned it down today.
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[3:10:45] But but I mean,
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[3:10:47] he was apparently trying to do it this
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[3:10:50] way to be on the up and up about it.
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[3:10:52] So, so I have a question though,
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[3:10:54] because I got the impression
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[3:10:55] that there was already hearing,
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[3:10:56] and maybe Scott can help us with this,
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[3:10:59] that there was already a first reading
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[3:11:01] on annexing and using the water body
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[3:11:04] to to jump over for the Florida Statutes.
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[3:11:07] Yes, ma'am.
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[3:11:09] Good afternoon.
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[3:11:10] I think commissioners,
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[3:11:13] if give me 30 seconds give you a quick story
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[3:11:16] on how this first started when, when Mr.
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[3:11:19] Creech was looking at house outside
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[3:11:21] the city limits for his family,
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[3:11:23] he came and talked to me.
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[3:11:24] He said, you know, you know,
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[3:11:26] if I move here, can I annex?
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[3:11:27] I said, yes.
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[3:11:28] I mean, across the we,
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[3:11:29] we think this with the statue,
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[3:11:31] with the water body,
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[3:11:32] you can still annex because it's
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[3:11:33] surrounded by this, by the city.
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[3:11:35] Matter of fact,
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[3:11:36] I think 25 homes in that area
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[3:11:39] right now can annex right now
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[3:11:42] because they're contiguous or, or,
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[3:11:45] you know, across the water body.
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[3:11:47] But I got a a meeting with one of
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[3:11:49] the residents who said I don't
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[3:11:52] like this because this is just
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[3:11:53] leading to forced annexation.
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[3:11:55] I said we will never force you to annex ever.
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[3:11:58] He said, put it in writing.
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[3:12:00] So I called my city attorney and said, Mr.
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[3:12:02] Stone, Attorney Stone,
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[3:12:03] will you put this in writing that
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[3:12:05] we will never forcefully annex
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[3:12:07] anybody in Silver Beach Heights
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[3:12:08] because we don't really don't work like that.
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[3:12:10] We don't send a letter.
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[3:12:11] And you know, with that, that type of a deal,
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[3:12:13] because the best thing to do is
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[3:12:16] amend the ISBA and put that language
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[3:12:18] in there to protect them for any
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[3:12:21] forced annexation in the future.
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[3:12:22] So that's why we went down the
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[3:12:25] ISBA path originally.
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[3:12:27] You know, at first we weren't going to,
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[3:12:28] but I thought it was a logical answer for
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[3:12:31] him to say just put their concern in writing.
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[3:12:34] Everybody should be happy.
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[3:12:36] And it's changed a little bit now.
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[3:12:37] The thing since came through the county
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[3:12:39] went from the entire community of Silver
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[3:12:42] Beach Heights down to one resident.
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[3:12:44] So I'm not sure if I answered
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[3:12:47] your question on that.
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[3:12:48] So the reason we're here is the ISBA is
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[3:12:51] because we were kind of asked to do that,
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[3:12:53] try to give them some confidence that
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[3:12:55] we'll never force forcibly annex them.
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[3:12:57] But did you already have a a reading?
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[3:12:58] We, we already had the,
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[3:13:00] we already had the first meeting for
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[3:13:02] annexation the lake as the basis for yes,
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[3:13:04] ma'am, making it contiguous.
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[3:13:06] And so if we didn't approve this today,
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[3:13:10] I guess the second reading will move forward
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[3:13:12] based on the votes on the first meeting.
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[3:13:16] And so you would address annexing that?
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[3:13:19] Yes, ma'am.
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[3:13:20] But you know what,
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[3:13:20] we think that the, the,
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[3:13:21] the ISBA amendment is still a
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[3:13:23] logical process to go through.
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[3:13:25] We serve that entire area now
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[3:13:27] in a different point in time,
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[3:13:28] they would they would be in our
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[3:13:30] ISBA and with a,
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[3:13:31] you know,
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[3:13:32] probably 1/4 of the percent
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[3:13:33] of the of citizens live there
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[3:13:35] now are already contiguous.
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[3:13:37] But we have no intention
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[3:13:38] to forcibly annex anyone.
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[3:13:40] And we still like your support
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[3:13:42] with the ISBA and, you know, back,
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[3:13:44] you know, Commissioner Blake on
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[3:13:46] the the purpose of the annexation.
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[3:13:48] The mayor said this is primary objective.
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[3:13:52] It was that because that's what we've
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[3:13:54] been talking about for the last six months.
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[3:13:56] But really the reason is if
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[3:13:58] you want to annex, I mean,
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[3:14:00] I don't want to be flippant,
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[3:14:02] but what difference does it make?
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[3:14:03] The reason I want to,
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[3:14:05] maybe I want to run for office next time.
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[3:14:07] Maybe there's a whole lot of
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[3:14:08] reasons that I might want to annex.
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[3:14:10] But again, it's voluntary,
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[3:14:12] no force of the city for Mr.
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[3:14:15] Creech or anybody in that community.
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[3:14:18] Mr.
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[3:14:19] Chairman,
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[3:14:20] I just just wanted to say that I actually
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[3:14:22] agree with Commissioner Parks on this and I,
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[3:14:24] I appreciate you not renting a house.
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[3:14:26] I, it drives me nuts when people do that or,
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[3:14:28] you know,
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[3:14:28] live in a different county.
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[3:14:29] It happens.
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[3:14:30] And it's very unfortunate.
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[3:14:32] And if it were just kind of a blind request,
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[3:14:35] of course,
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[3:14:35] I probably wouldn't have an opinion on it.
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[3:14:36] But but the issue I'm having here is that
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[3:14:39] taxpayer resources are being expended,
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[3:14:42] have been expended for a political purpose.
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[3:14:45] He he moved away knowing that
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[3:14:47] he was leaving the city.
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[3:14:49] And I don't think that it's,
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[3:14:50] it's everybody's job to kind of
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[3:14:52] March in line to clean that up.
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[3:14:58] I've got a a couple of question,
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[3:15:03] who currently does your garbage
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[3:15:06] service out there? GFL, Who is it?
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[3:15:10] GFL does the garbage service
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[3:15:13] for that subdivision.
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[3:15:15] No, that'd be under under the county.
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[3:15:16] I'm not sure who the yeah.
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[3:15:17] So it's going to be FCC and and
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[3:15:20] there's and there's so you're
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[3:15:21] going to have one garbage can,
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[3:15:23] maybe not for the city. Umatilla.
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[3:15:26] Well, if you're in the city,
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[3:15:28] they get city services.
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[3:15:30] They get Umatilla police Umatilla fire water,
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[3:15:37] which they are currently have and sewer.
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[3:15:41] How far away is sewer?
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[3:15:42] It's it's probably will not be
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[3:15:45] out that way in many years.
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[3:15:48] So, so really the the, the and it's,
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[3:15:52] it's our duty not to create enclaves.
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[3:15:55] And if this isn't an enclave,
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[3:15:57] I don't know what is.
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[3:15:59] I mean,
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[3:16:00] you got one city parcel surrounded
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[3:16:03] by a community of county residents
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[3:16:06] using county services.
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[3:16:08] I just,
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[3:16:10] Mr. Chairman, may just make a
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[3:16:12] comment that I had a conversation
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[3:16:15] when we were meeting about this.
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[3:16:17] Like throughout the city of Umatilla,
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[3:16:19] it's an older city.
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[3:16:21] We have county enclaves all in the city
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[3:16:24] where they'll be 15 garbage, you know,
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[3:16:27] garbage picks up by the city and then the
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[3:16:30] county will come drive all the way down,
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[3:16:31] pick up one house and then, you know,
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[3:16:34] the next 10 gets picked up by the city again.
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[3:16:37] But I think that's, that's the,
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[3:16:39] the intent of the ISBA is to
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[3:16:41] get more efficient services.
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[3:16:42] So in this case,
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[3:16:43] it might be more efficient
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[3:16:45] and logical for the county to
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[3:16:47] continue to pick up that garbage,
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[3:16:49] as it might be logical for the city
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[3:16:52] to pick up some garbage on enclaves
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[3:16:54] that are inside the city now.
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[3:16:56] I think that's part of that cooperation to
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[3:16:59] work to reduce cost and get more efficient.
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[3:17:02] I think,
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[3:17:03] I think that this was more
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[3:17:04] than just one parcel.
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[3:17:05] I'd have a different opinion if this
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[3:17:08] was like the whole neighborhood in agreement,
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[3:17:11] but this is just one parcel for one
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[3:17:14] subset for one reason and one reason only.
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[3:17:17] And
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[3:17:20] I'm absolutely I think is an
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[3:17:21] important point though, again,
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[3:17:22] is that the IS you went the ISBA
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[3:17:24] route not only to be above board,
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[3:17:26] but also because it actually protects
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[3:17:30] it sounds like it's going to further
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[3:17:32] protect something in writing.
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[3:17:33] Yeah. So that that's a good,
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[3:17:36] that's definitely good. Yeah.
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[3:17:41] Any more questions for me?
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[3:17:43] Any more board discussion?
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[3:17:46] All right, so we have a motion and
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[3:17:48] a second all those in favor say aye,
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[3:17:51] aye, opposed, opposed
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[3:17:56] motion fails. Right. Three.
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[3:17:58] I I didn't get your vote.
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[3:18:00] No, I thought you three
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[3:18:02] voted for the motion to deny.
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[3:18:04] Yes, I've, I have 3:00 to 2:00.
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[3:18:06] So it denied for 3:00 to 2:00, Denied 32I
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[3:18:11] think it was a little confusing
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[3:18:12] because the motion was a negative
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[3:18:14] as opposed to a positive.
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[3:18:15] Yeah. OK, so the motion has
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[3:18:20] been denied by the county.
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[3:18:21] Moving on down to Tab 18.
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[3:18:25] Melanie, we're going to see if
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[3:18:28] we can't get through this now,
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[3:18:31] maybe commissioners,
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[3:18:33] you mind going another 2025 minutes
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[3:18:36] to see if we can't get through
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[3:18:38] this because I know we have Mr.
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[3:18:39] Steve Smith waiting as well.
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[3:18:41] Let's keep forging along if we can.
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[3:18:43] OK, let's go.
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[3:18:44] All right,
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[3:18:45] this will be an ordinance to the Board
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[3:18:46] of County Commissioners of Lake County,
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[3:18:47] Florida, amending Chapter 2,
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[3:18:48] Lake County Code Appendix C lane development
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[3:18:50] regulations and title definitions
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[3:18:52] regarding recreational vehicles,
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[3:18:53] providing for severability,
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[3:18:54] providing for inclusion the code,
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[3:18:56] providing for filing with
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[3:18:56] Department of State,
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[3:18:57] and providing an effective date.
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[3:18:59] If you choose to prove this today,
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[3:19:00] become 2024-15.
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[3:19:02] And this is to bring our code
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[3:19:04] in line with Florida statute
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[3:19:06] definitions for RV's.
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[3:19:10] OK, this is a public hearing.
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[3:19:11] Anybody in the audience want to
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[3:19:12] speak on this issue? Seeing none.
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[3:19:14] Anybody online seeing none,
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[3:19:16] bring it back to the board
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[3:19:20] new for approval. Second,
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[3:19:21] we have a motion and a second.
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[3:19:24] All those in favor say aye, aye.
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[3:19:26] Opposed. Motion carries 50. All right,
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[3:19:41] Tab 19.
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[3:19:45] This will be an ordinance of the Board
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[3:19:46] of County Commissioners of Lake County,
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[3:19:47] Florida repealing Article 8,
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[3:19:49] Chapter 13, Lake County Code entitled
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[3:19:51] Bingo regulations providing for
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[3:19:52] severability inclusion in the code,
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[3:19:53] providing filing Department of State
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[3:19:55] providing for an effective date.
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[3:19:56] You choose to approve this today,
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[3:19:57] become Ordinance 2024-16,
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[3:19:59] and if the Board recalls,
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[3:20:01] you had a unwritten policy that
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[3:20:03] when you add a new regulation,
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[3:20:05] you repeal an old regulation.
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[3:20:07] So this is a repealer of bingo
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[3:20:09] regulations which are governed by
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[3:20:11] state law and it's tied to Tab 19,
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[3:20:13] which will be imposing a new regulation.
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[3:20:19] This is a public meeting
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[3:20:22] or open to the public.
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[3:20:24] Anybody in the room would
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[3:20:25] like to speak on this issue.
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[3:20:27] Anybody online seeing on them
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[3:20:28] bringing it back to the board, I'd
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[3:20:32] like the motion to approve.
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[3:20:33] Second, we have motion to 2nd.
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[3:20:35] Any further discussion?
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[3:20:38] All those in favor say aye, aye.
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[3:20:40] Opposed. Motion carries 50.
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[3:20:42] Moving on down to Tab 20. All
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[3:20:46] right. This will be an ordinance to the Board
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[3:20:47] of County Commissioners of Lake County,
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[3:20:49] Florida, amending Lake County Code
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[3:20:51] Appendix E Lane Development Regulations
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[3:20:53] subsection 9O4O2 entitled Planning,
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[3:20:55] Design and Construction Requirements.
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[3:20:56] Establishing the requirement that all
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[3:20:58] gated communities have an approved
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[3:21:00] emergency access gate opening
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[3:21:01] system for public safety vehicles.
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[3:21:02] Providing for severability inclusion the
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[3:21:04] code, providing for filing Department of
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[3:21:05] State and providing for an effective date.
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[3:21:07] If you choose to approve this today,
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[3:21:08] become Ordinance 2024-17.
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[3:21:09] OK, this is a public hearing.
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[3:21:12] Anybody in the audience would
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[3:21:13] like to speak on this issue?
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[3:21:16] Seeing none, anybody online seeing none,
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[3:21:18] bringing it back to the board.
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[3:21:19] Motion approve.
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[3:21:19] Second, we have a motion and 2nd all
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[3:21:22] those in favor say aye, aye, opposed.
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[3:21:25] Motion carries 50.
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[3:21:28] OK TAP is 21.
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[3:21:31] This will be an ordinance of Lake County,
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[3:21:32] Florida calling for a bond referendum
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[3:21:34] for the issuance of unlimited general
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[3:21:36] obligation bonds for the acquisition,
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[3:21:38] improvement of land for clean water
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[3:21:40] protection over development prevention,
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[3:21:41] natural area preservation,
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[3:21:42] the provision of parks and trails
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[3:21:44] and related support facilities.
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[3:21:46] Providing for ballot language.
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[3:21:47] Providing for notice of the election.
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[3:21:48] Providing for notification to the State
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[3:21:50] of Florida Department of Revenue creating
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[3:21:52] Division seven Chapter 2 Lake County
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[3:21:54] Code to be entitled Public Lands and
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[3:21:56] Trails Acquisition Advisory Committee.
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[3:21:57] Providing for severability.
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[3:21:58] Providing a conflict clause providing
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[3:22:00] for filing with Department of State
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[3:22:02] providing for an effective date.
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[3:22:03] If you choose to approve this
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[3:22:04] today it become 2024 dash 18.
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[3:22:06] All right, thank you very much Mr.
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[3:22:09] Marty Proctor
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[3:22:22] Marty Proctor 18225 rose St.
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[3:22:24] groveland, FL. I will be prompt.
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[3:22:28] This is called a public
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[3:22:30] lands acquisition program.
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[3:22:34] I fully support the verbiage provided
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[3:22:36] by the Land Trust for Public or Public
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[3:22:39] or Trust for public Land and the
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[3:22:41] cooperation with The Nature Conservancy.
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[3:22:45] In this ordinance,
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[3:22:47] you go through a process of defining
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[3:22:49] and creating an advisory committee,
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[3:22:52] very specific and then you guys ultimately
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[3:22:57] appoint the people that meet those criteria.
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[3:23:00] Then I it's my feeling,
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[3:23:04] and it was the Audubon's feeling too,
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[3:23:07] that you then basically hamstring.
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[3:23:11] You're very specifically defined and
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[3:23:14] very personally selected board by
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[3:23:18] instructing them specifically how to and
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[3:23:20] what to do with the land selections.
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[3:23:24] I don't understand why it should be
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[3:23:28] prescribed by the Parks and Trails
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[3:23:31] Master plan Public lands acquisition.
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[3:23:34] We discussed this at great length
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[3:23:36] at the last meeting.
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[3:23:38] It's not about parks and trails.
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[3:23:40] It's about open space,
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[3:23:42] water preservation.
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[3:23:43] Yet in section 232 dot 31131 B
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[3:23:49] very specifically says acquisition
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[3:23:51] tasks prescribed by the parks
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[3:23:53] and Trails management plan.
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[3:23:55] Also then you create more interesting
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[3:23:59] comments in section C of this,
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[3:24:02] if you'll forgive me,
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[3:24:03] I know you guys wrote this on purpose.
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[3:24:06] The 5050 funding balance between natural
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[3:24:09] and passive use for trails connectivity,
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[3:24:11] it's
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[3:24:13] going to be very difficult to take any
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[3:24:17] specific project or land acquisition item
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[3:24:20] and say this much of it is for trails
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[3:24:23] or connectivity and this much of it is
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[3:24:25] for open space and water preservation.
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[3:24:28] I think it's going to,
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[3:24:29] to try to generally achieve that.
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[3:24:31] I, I really just don't understand.
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[3:24:32] It's kind of vague and I would rather
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[3:24:35] see this board that you're going to put
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[3:24:38] together and very specifically select,
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[3:24:40] be allowed to openly and create
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[3:24:43] their own report card,
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[3:24:45] use their own criterions,
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[3:24:46] bring everything to you for
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[3:24:48] your approval at the end.
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[3:24:50] Let them do the job that you're defining
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[3:24:53] for them and and also creating that
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[3:24:57] committee specifically for them.
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[3:24:59] Thank you. Thank you.
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[3:25:02] All right, Miss Jane Hepting.
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[3:25:13] Good afternoon. My name is Jane Hepting
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[3:25:16] and I'm speaking on behalf of the
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[3:25:19] Lake County Conservation Council.
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[3:25:21] We're very pleased that this Commission
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[3:25:23] will be placing the public lands bond
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[3:25:26] referendum on the ballot this fall.
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[3:25:28] We suggest that none of the
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[3:25:30] funds be used for active parks,
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[3:25:32] and we also suggest that the advisory
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[3:25:35] committee not be required to split the
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[3:25:38] funds 5050 between natural passive use
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[3:25:41] lands and land use for trail connectivity.
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[3:25:44] Acquiring lands to complete the
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[3:25:46] wildlife corridor through Lake
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[3:25:48] County is an urgent matter.
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[3:25:50] Once the land is gone, it's gone forever.
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[3:25:53] Once the wildlife is gone,
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[3:25:55] it may be gone forever also.
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[3:25:58] So during the early years of the bond,
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[3:26:00] the committee may favor purchasing
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[3:26:02] conservation lands for good reason and
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[3:26:04] then focus more on land for trails.
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[3:26:07] Later.
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[3:26:08] Trail connectivity may occur
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[3:26:11] on the conservation land.
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[3:26:14] So just as Marty Proctor stated,
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[3:26:17] how do you kind of divide out
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[3:26:18] how much money is going to each?
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[3:26:20] And the funding needed for a particular
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[3:26:23] project will depend upon how much
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[3:26:25] money is available from other sources.
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[3:26:27] For these reasons,
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[3:26:28] we believe that the committee should
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[3:26:31] have the freedom to recommend
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[3:26:32] the best use of the funds.
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[3:26:35] I understand that the Aqua Valley
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[3:26:37] Audubon Society has also sent
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[3:26:40] you a letter expressing concerns
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[3:26:42] about the 5050 split.
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[3:26:44] The society correctly points out that
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[3:26:48] the ordinance list many allowable
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[3:26:50] uses for bond proceeds and nearly
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[3:26:54] all address ecosystem services.
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[3:26:59] The list includes protecting drinking water,
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[3:27:03] improving water quality of our rivers,
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[3:27:05] lakes and streams,
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[3:27:06] protecting open space,
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[3:27:08] providing connectivity between
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[3:27:10] habitat for wildlife,
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[3:27:14] and also preserving natural areas.
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[3:27:16] These are all really,
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[3:27:18] really important,
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[3:27:20] so we're asking that you let the
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[3:27:22] advisory committee have the leeway to
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[3:27:24] recommend the best use for the funds.
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[3:27:27] And thank you all for your
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[3:27:28] service to this county.
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[3:27:29] All right, thank you, Miss Cindy Newton.
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[3:27:40] Thank you again for the opportunity to speak.
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[3:27:42] Cindy Newton, District 4.
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[3:27:45] I agree with both of them,
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[3:27:47] so I won't go over what they said.
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[3:27:49] I am in support of the bond referendum.
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[3:27:53] I did circulate the new language
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[3:27:57] and it came back with a lot more
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[3:28:00] opposition than the first language did.
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[3:28:03] I think she should be aware of that.
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[3:28:07] Generally the people are supporting more
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[3:28:10] natural areas with fewer paved trails.
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[3:28:13] They're in favor of the natural trails.
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[3:28:16] Also very concerned about the 5050 split,
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[3:28:20] which is actually being seen
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[3:28:22] more as a 2520 five $0.50.
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[3:28:27] The paths of the natural lands are
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[3:28:29] on one side, trails on the other,
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[3:28:31] and that was a big sticking
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[3:28:34] point for most people on this.
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[3:28:36] I just want to make sure this
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[3:28:38] does get put on the ballot with a
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[3:28:41] valid opportunity to be passed.
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[3:28:43] And I see those as tripping points for a
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[3:28:47] lot of the information I'm getting back.
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[3:28:50] Thank you. Thank you.
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[3:28:53] Mr.
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[3:28:54] Greg Ginsmeyer
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[3:29:01] kind of feel like an outcast
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[3:29:02] sitting over on the one side,
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[3:29:03] but that was just because I was also
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[3:29:06] part of the the Ferndale issue again,
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[3:29:09] Greg Enseimer, unincorporated
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[3:29:11] lake and prior chairman of the
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[3:29:14] first line acquisition committee.
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[3:29:17] And I'm here talking about
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[3:29:19] the 5050 split too.
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[3:29:20] I'm I'm as much of an advocate for trails
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[3:29:23] as anybody else except for Mike Stevens.
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[3:29:25] I don't think anybody, you know,
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[3:29:27] equals his advocacy and and his work on
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[3:29:32] creating trails in our in our county.
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[3:29:35] I was originally concerned about that
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[3:29:37] 5050 split just the same way that
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[3:29:39] everybody else was talking about.
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[3:29:41] But also I was concerned a little bit
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[3:29:44] because it's not just 50% of the land,
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[3:29:47] it's also include the improvements
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[3:29:49] and the cost of trails will
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[3:29:52] significantly eat up the paving the
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[3:29:55] trails of significant eat up the
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[3:29:57] amount of money that's available for,
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[3:29:59] for creating the trails.
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[3:30:00] But then when I actually read the ordinance,
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[3:30:02] I really like the idea of the
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[3:30:04] definition from Florida Greenways
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[3:30:06] and Trails because once and,
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[3:30:08] and if the committee is allowed to really
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[3:30:11] adhere to that definition of the trails,
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[3:30:13] it's not just paved trails.
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[3:30:16] And my advocacy for trails is probably
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[3:30:19] overwhelmed by my advocacy for
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[3:30:22] open spaces and also the advocacy
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[3:30:25] for trails for critters.
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[3:30:27] We have so many subdivisions in so
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[3:30:29] many ways that we've broken up the
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[3:30:31] the wild land so that our animals
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[3:30:33] can't move around, move around.
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[3:30:35] And I think if we stick with the Florida
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[3:30:38] Greenways and trails definition of trails,
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[3:30:41] we can automatically
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[3:30:43] include wildlife corridors.
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[3:30:44] We can also include blue way corridors.
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[3:30:47] So it's not just paved trails.
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[3:30:49] And I think that allows the advisory
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[3:30:52] committee to create the right
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[3:30:54] kind of scoring system so that you
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[3:30:57] can adequately compare a score to
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[3:30:59] a paved trail as you could to a
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[3:31:02] piece of land that's connecting,
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[3:31:04] you know, two different green spaces.
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[3:31:06] And one of the things too, when,
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[3:31:08] when the development that I see
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[3:31:09] around Sugarloaf and everywhere else,
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[3:31:11] one of the properties that we're
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[3:31:13] really losing very quickly is the
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[3:31:15] native land of the Lake Wales Ridge.
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[3:31:18] And so I, I think,
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[3:31:19] you know,
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[3:31:20] one of the things we really need
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[3:31:21] to do is is to,
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[3:31:22] to work on that and allowing the
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[3:31:25] advisory committee that ability to
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[3:31:27] create the scoring system to work on
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[3:31:29] all the properties is really good.
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[3:31:31] And then lastly,
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[3:31:33] whatever the advisory committee
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[3:31:35] suggests for properties,
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[3:31:36] you guys all have the idea to
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[3:31:38] either agree or disagree.
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[3:31:41] So you know,
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[3:31:42] the scoring system I think is
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[3:31:43] primary and you still have the,
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[3:31:45] the authority to agree or disagree
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[3:31:47] with the property expenditures.
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[3:31:49] So I, I think this is a great idea.
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[3:31:51] I,
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[3:31:51] I loved being on that committee 20 years ago.
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[3:31:55] And actually I hope to be on the
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[3:31:57] committee again going forwards.
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[3:31:58] Thank you. All right, thank you.
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[3:32:02] Well, before I call you,
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[3:32:03] I want to bring it to the phones,
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[3:32:06] anybody online? Nobody online. So the
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[3:32:10] last speaker I have is Mr. Will Avenger.
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[3:32:16] Thank you, Mr. Chair,
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[3:32:17] members of the Lake County Commission,
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[3:32:18] this is a great day in Lake
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[3:32:20] County in the state of Florida.
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[3:32:22] We strongly recommend approval.
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[3:32:23] The ordinance we have you
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[3:32:25] have before you today.
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[3:32:26] And I mainly just want to
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[3:32:27] thank you and thank your staff,
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[3:32:29] particularly Miss Miss Parker
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[3:32:30] and Miss Marsh for working
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[3:32:31] with the Trust Republic Land.
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[3:32:33] We started this back in October of
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[3:32:35] last year and just appreciate the
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[3:32:37] spirit of cooperation and we're
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[3:32:39] ready to get on to the campaign.
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[3:32:41] So thank you very much.
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[3:32:43] All right, thank you and thank you
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[3:32:44] for all your expertise and your help.
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[3:32:45] Commissioner Parks,
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[3:32:46] I was just going to say,
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[3:32:49] so I appreciate everybody coming out and
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[3:32:51] sticking with the long day so far today.
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[3:32:54] And it is, it is, I think will be a
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[3:32:57] big day for us assuming this moves forward.
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[3:33:00] I I will take responsibility
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[3:33:02] for putting in the 5050.
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[3:33:03] That was an amendment,
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[3:33:05] if you remember the 5050 split to put in
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[3:33:09] there and as well as the Greenway definition.
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[3:33:12] So I understand the concerns that
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[3:33:13] you're you're talking about.
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[3:33:15] I wanted to be clear,
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[3:33:16] just to reiterate, it was,
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[3:33:17] it's not the intent that it would
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[3:33:19] be used for construction of trails.
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[3:33:21] I totally agree.
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[3:33:22] One of the speaker.
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[3:33:23] Yeah, Greg,
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[3:33:24] you're going to run out of money
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[3:33:26] pretty quick because asphalt and
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[3:33:28] putting trails down is expensive.
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[3:33:30] It's the land,
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[3:33:31] it's a land acquisition referendum.
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[3:33:32] So it is the land that we're focused on here.
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[3:33:35] And it would,
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[3:33:36] it could include part of our trail system.
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[3:33:40] As you know,
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[3:33:40] when we build trails,
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[3:33:41] there's kind of three phases.
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[3:33:42] There's APD and E and then there's
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[3:33:45] then there's the land acquisition
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[3:33:47] and then there's actual construction
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[3:33:48] of a trail that comes later on.
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[3:33:50] At some point.
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[3:33:51] This would facilitate,
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[3:33:53] could facilitate the the trail advocates
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[3:33:56] such as Greg and Mike Stevens for sure,
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[3:33:58] because it could include land
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[3:34:00] that would be used for a trail.
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[3:34:03] I just wanted to clarify that
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[3:34:04] that that that was not my intent.
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[3:34:06] I put that in there only because
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[3:34:08] I recognize the concerns about
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[3:34:10] none of it being used for trails.
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[3:34:13] And we did use it in trails
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[3:34:15] for trail for trail acquisition
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[3:34:17] from the 2004 referendum.
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[3:34:19] I think some people's concerns was,
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[3:34:21] is that we also bought properties
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[3:34:22] out in the middle of nowhere that
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[3:34:24] people potentially could never use.
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[3:34:26] But as just to recap the
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[3:34:28] discussion from 2 weeks ago, it,
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[3:34:31] it is the full intent.
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[3:34:32] I mean my full intent,
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[3:34:33] I think the board, but was too that
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[3:34:35] we're looking for the connectivity.
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[3:34:37] So lands that would connect lake with
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[3:34:41] with the serving all the ecological services,
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[3:34:44] but also for people too and
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[3:34:46] that would be the focus of it.
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[3:34:48] So I, I understand the concern.
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[3:34:50] I hear what you say.
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[3:34:51] I don't want to,
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[3:34:52] I would not want to do anything that
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[3:34:54] would jeopardize this getting on
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[3:34:55] the ballot because this is literally
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[3:34:56] probably one of the last days that
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[3:34:58] we have to the opportunity that
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[3:34:59] we have to get it on the ballot.
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[3:35:02] So we we would not want to do something
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[3:35:03] that could jeopardize the beginning,
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[3:35:05] the language on the ballot.
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[3:35:06] I would hope today if we
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[3:35:07] need to change and pull out,
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[3:35:09] if we need to put a word in that says
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[3:35:11] that we will generally strive for 5050.
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[3:35:13] I mean, I'm OK with that or
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[3:35:15] I think it says that though.
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[3:35:16] Yeah, it does say that or or
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[3:35:17] we maybe we just add that it's
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[3:35:18] not construction of trail.
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[3:35:19] The intent is to not provide money.
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[3:35:21] We're having that discussion.
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[3:35:22] I think that makes it clear that the
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[3:35:24] idea being that it's the acquisition
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[3:35:26] of property and and the focus.
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[3:35:28] The reason I think it's important
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[3:35:30] to have that reference in the
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[3:35:32] ordinance to the distribution is to,
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[3:35:35] to show that it's a priority to
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[3:35:38] have connectivity to not just
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[3:35:40] buy standalone parcels only,
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[3:35:42] but to actually be looking at how
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[3:35:43] do we create a network across the
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[3:35:45] county where we connect people and we
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[3:35:47] connect places for critters to go.
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[3:35:49] So I think we achieve it with
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[3:35:51] this language and I,
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[3:35:51] I think we should stick with it.
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[3:35:52] I think it,
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[3:35:53] we've worked hard on it and I think,
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[3:35:55] you know, we,
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[3:35:55] we've been able to talk about it
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[3:35:57] enough that everybody understands
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[3:35:59] what the intent is agreed.
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[3:36:03] And, and again, I think if, you know,
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[3:36:05] if this needed to be tweaked in the future,
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[3:36:08] it could be tweaked. So I, I mean,
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[3:36:10] I, I recognize the concerns as well.
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[3:36:14] You know, if it needs to be
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[3:36:16] made more clear, you know,
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[3:36:17] we can certainly bring that up,
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[3:36:18] but you're hearing it a lot of the
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[3:36:20] advocates in the room or maybe
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[3:36:21] some that have left or listening.
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[3:36:23] That is, that is clearly the intent is,
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[3:36:25] is the connectivity.
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[3:36:27] It's not yes, again,
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[3:36:29] it could include it would include
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[3:36:31] lands that could be have a trail on it,
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[3:36:33] but this is not to construct that trail.
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[3:36:39] OK, Commissioner Shields.
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[3:36:41] Well, the ballot language itself right.
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[3:36:44] You you feel will pass.
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[3:36:47] The ballot language is right where
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[3:36:48] it needs to be. OK, Thank you.
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[3:36:53] OK.
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[3:36:55] Any further discussion?
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[3:36:56] How do you like to move?
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[3:36:57] I make a motion for approval.
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[3:37:00] I'll 2nd. I have a motion to second.
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[3:37:02] All those in favor say aye,
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[3:37:03] aye opposed. Motion carries 50.
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[3:37:07] Moving on down to Office of
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[3:37:10] Housing Community Services. Maria,
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[3:37:18] good afternoon, Commissioners.
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[3:37:19] Carrie Christian,
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[3:37:20] Assistant County Manager The Office
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[3:37:23] of Housing and Community Services
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[3:37:25] is seeking approving approval for
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[3:37:27] the following approval of a local
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[3:37:30] government contribution in the amount
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[3:37:32] of $460,000 to Provident Housing
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[3:37:35] Solutions for the proposed development
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[3:37:38] of 81 affordable housing units for
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[3:37:41] seniors located at 13550 Hunt Trace Blvd.
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[3:37:44] Claremont.
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[3:37:45] Payment of which is contention upon
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[3:37:47] the developer receiving funding
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[3:37:48] through the Low Income Housing Tax
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[3:37:50] Credit Program offered through the
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[3:37:52] Florida Housing Finance Corporation.
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[3:37:54] Also, approval of funding
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[3:37:55] through the HUD Home Program,
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[3:37:57] providing that the project meets the
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[3:38:00] eligibility standards and then finally
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[3:38:02] authorizing the Chairman to execute
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[3:38:05] the Local Government Verification of
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[3:38:07] Contribution Loan form to be submitted
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[3:38:10] with the LIHTC program application.
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[3:38:13] So the funding of $460,000
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[3:38:16] is fully funded by a grant.
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[3:38:20] Unfortunately, Mr.
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[3:38:21] Hank Dunn, Mr.
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[3:38:22] Steve Smith had to leave.
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[3:38:24] They had prior commitments,
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[3:38:25] but they wanted me to provide
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[3:38:28] a few speaking points for you.
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[3:38:31] Measure where I think it was about three
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[3:38:34] years ago they came to the board and
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[3:38:37] received approval to build about 70 units,
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[3:38:40] phase one for senior living,
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[3:38:42] that they are full,
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[3:38:44] completely full.
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[3:38:45] And right now they have 200
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[3:38:48] seniors on waiting list.
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[3:38:49] So there's a great need and they just
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[3:38:52] wanted me to pass that information along.
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[3:38:56] OK, It's a public hearing.
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[3:38:58] Anybody in the audience
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[3:38:59] want to speak on this?
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[3:39:02] Yeah, I've got a card for Steve,
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[3:39:04] but he he left right,
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[3:39:06] So there's no card for him.
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[3:39:08] Anybody online,
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[3:39:09] anybody else in the audience
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[3:39:11] would just speak on this issue.
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[3:39:13] Bringing it back to the board, move
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[3:39:16] for approval. Second,
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[3:39:17] we have a motion to 2nd.
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[3:39:19] Any further discussion?
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[3:39:21] All those in favor say aye, aye.
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[3:39:23] Opposed. Motion carries 50.
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[3:39:26] Mr. Snyder.
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[3:39:32] Good afternoon. Fred Schneider.
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[3:39:33] This is a presentation on Internal
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[3:39:36] Subdivision Rd. Maintenance.
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[3:39:37] MSBU have a little bit of background
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[3:39:40] in the assessment discussion itself
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[3:39:42] and a recommendation. The background.
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[3:39:45] The Internal Subdivision, Rd.
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[3:39:47] Maintenance Municipal Services Benefit Unit,
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[3:39:49] or MSBU was adopted by the Lake
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[3:39:51] County Board of County Commissioners
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[3:39:53] on September 12th, 2023.
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[3:39:54] The purpose of the MSBU is to provide a
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[3:39:57] funding mechanism for the maintenance
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[3:39:59] of county maintained public roads
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[3:40:01] within newly approved subdivisions.
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[3:40:03] The MSBU will provide a good
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[3:40:05] state of repair for Rd.
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[3:40:06] surfacing, sidewalks,
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[3:40:07] curbs or motor systems, St.
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[3:40:09] trimming, St.
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[3:40:10] lighting, associated infrastructure.
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[3:40:12] For fiscal year 2025,
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[3:40:14] only one subdivision has been completed
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[3:40:17] and ready to add to the MSBU assessment.
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[3:40:20] Edgemont is located off Sawgrass Bay Blvd.,
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[3:40:22] South of the City of Claremont.
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[3:40:25] The Edgemont PUD was approved by
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[3:40:27] the Board under Ordinance 2018,
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[3:40:28] Dash 56 on November 20th,
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[3:40:30] 2018 and the plat of Edgemont
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[3:40:33] includes the acceptance of an
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[3:40:34] MSBU to be established for Rd.
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[3:40:36] maintenance so that specifically
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[3:40:38] mentioned on the plat.
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[3:40:39] The Edgemont subdivision is located
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[3:40:41] here off Sawgrass Bay Blvd.
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[3:40:43] 92 plaited residential lots.
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[3:40:45] Typical lot size 50 by 110 the criteria
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[3:40:50] for calculation of the maintenance costs.
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[3:40:52] You know this is in general not
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[3:40:54] specific necessary to Edgemont
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[3:40:55] but length and width of Rd.
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[3:40:57] whether has curb and gutter
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[3:40:59] or swell drainage,
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[3:41:00] whether has sidewalks on one side,
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[3:41:02] both sides or none.
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[3:41:03] Whether it's got trees that are
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[3:41:05] planted that need to be trimmed,
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[3:41:06] stormwater drainage and other
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[3:41:08] infrastructure and that you know,
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[3:41:10] as these go forward for
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[3:41:11] next year as any are added,
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[3:41:13] then those are the things that are looked at.
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[3:41:15] And each subdivision will be unique as far
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[3:41:18] as what the estimate is to maintain it.
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[3:41:21] You know,
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[3:41:21] lower lot density,
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[3:41:23] the number you know per lot will
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[3:41:25] be less than higher and whether
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[3:41:26] it's got higher lot density will
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[3:41:28] be more dependent on curbs and
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[3:41:30] sidewalks and those kind of things.
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[3:41:31] So this is what we looked at for Edgemont.
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[3:41:35] So what we want to what we want to
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[3:41:38] do with this new program with MSB US
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[3:41:41] is sort of is look at maintaining
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[3:41:44] the roadway pavement during its
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[3:41:46] lifetime and not just every 20 or
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[3:41:50] 25 years waiting to it's in a really
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[3:41:53] bad condition and then looking for overlay.
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[3:41:56] So this is a pavement management
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[3:41:58] system and it's the first one
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[3:42:00] step that we're going into as we
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[3:42:02] go forward with this.
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[3:42:03] And and so,
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[3:42:04] So what we do is the first years of
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[3:42:07] three or six you pavements get, you know,
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[3:42:09] it's hot, it's a little brittle.
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[3:42:11] You put a pavement rejuvenator rejuvenator
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[3:42:13] on there and that keeps it from cracking,
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[3:42:15] you know, keeps it sealed years 10 to 14,
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[3:42:18] perhaps a fog seal,
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[3:42:20] which is a little bit more.
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[3:42:22] And between 15 and 20,
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[3:42:24] the Cape seal,
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[3:42:25] which is a not quite a full resurfacing,
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[3:42:28] but it but it adds a surface to it.
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[3:42:30] And then of course we want
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[3:42:32] to re evaluate these
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[3:42:34] on an annual basis.
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[3:42:36] We looked at long term estimates,
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[3:42:38] so assessment for years 1 to 20.
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[3:42:40] So this doesn't take into account inflation
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[3:42:43] or the the cost of improvements out 20 years.
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[3:42:47] It's just based on current value of a dollar.
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[3:42:49] So if this is the total assessment
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[3:42:52] per lot that would just carry through.
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[3:42:55] Of course you know we we have to keep an
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[3:42:57] eye on those and look at them every year,
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[3:42:59] every couple years and
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[3:43:00] make sure we're on track.
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[3:43:02] So that's where we are with that.
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[3:43:04] So our recommendation then is
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[3:43:08] approve the Edgemont MSB assessment
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[3:43:11] at the annual rate of $230.72 and
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[3:43:15] that corresponds to a consistent
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[3:43:16] annual fee over a 20 year time frame.
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[3:43:21] OK. This is the public hearing.
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[3:43:22] Your body in the public want
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[3:43:24] to speak on this issue.
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[3:43:26] Anybody online seeing none
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[3:43:28] bringing it back to the board,
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[3:43:30] motion to approve.
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[3:43:31] Second, we have a motion to 2nd.
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[3:43:33] Any further discussion?
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[3:43:33] I just want to point out two,
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[3:43:35] this is the MSBU because it's in a
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[3:43:38] neighborhood and the other was the MSTU
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[3:43:40] outside outside of the neighborhood.
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[3:43:41] So this is like our first in Wellness way.
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[3:43:44] So I guess we'll be seeing South of
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[3:43:47] Wellness way or South of Wellness way
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[3:43:49] just S but have we have we had any
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[3:43:52] other neighborhoods come in under
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[3:43:54] to do this in new subdivision plats?
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[3:43:57] We have, I have a lit, you know,
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[3:43:59] we've, we started keeping track of
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[3:44:00] this about two years ago when the
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[3:44:02] board discussion was, you know,
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[3:44:04] putting this on the plats and making
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[3:44:05] a requirement of PUD approvals.
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[3:44:07] And I have of that list that
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[3:44:09] we've gone through,
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[3:44:09] we've got about 20 of them.
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[3:44:10] Some have been annexed into cities,
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[3:44:12] some were private roads,
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[3:44:14] some were say 5 lots and
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[3:44:16] existing County Road.
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[3:44:18] And a number of them were say phase three
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[3:44:20] or four of a multi phase subdivision.
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[3:44:23] So we didn't bring those forward
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[3:44:25] because it didn't seem we would want to
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[3:44:28] recommend only phase three and four.
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[3:44:31] Phase one and two aren't in the MSBU.
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[3:44:33] Kind of strange have only half
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[3:44:35] your subdivision in it.
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[3:44:36] So this was the first one that fully came
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[3:44:39] forward as a single phase subdivision.
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[3:44:42] But we are keeping track of others as
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[3:44:44] they come through and we don't we don't
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[3:44:45] get a lot of there's a lot of the,
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[3:44:47] a lot of the development is
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[3:44:49] occurring within the city limits.
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[3:44:51] So these are just unincorporated areas.
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[3:44:53] Now,
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[3:44:53] if it were an axed and we
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[3:44:55] had to establish it,
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[3:44:56] does it get absorbed into the
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[3:44:58] city mileage or does it stay?
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[3:45:00] So the only way we could continue
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[3:45:02] to levy the MSBU if it gets annexed
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[3:45:05] is if the city opts in and then
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[3:45:07] we collect the money and we would
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[3:45:09] essentially give it to the city.
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[3:45:10] But otherwise, by virtue of them annexing it,
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[3:45:12] they've accepted the plat and then
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[3:45:14] they're responsible then for the maintenance.
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[3:45:15] This one's in Four Corners.
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[3:45:16] So it's yeah. But to. Yeah, to your.
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[3:45:19] That's a good question, Art.
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[3:45:20] So, Art,
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[3:45:21] do you know whether most of the cities
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[3:45:24] are doing some kind of equivalent
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[3:45:26] version of that, an assessment?
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[3:45:28] Because this is like a fiscal thing
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[3:45:30] to make help it pay for itself.
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[3:45:32] So you would think that maybe they'd be.
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[3:45:34] I don't.
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[3:45:34] I don't believe the cities can levy and MSBU.
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[3:45:37] They have. I know they can't.
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[3:45:38] I know it.
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[3:45:38] But I mean, that's why I said equivalent.
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[3:45:39] They have equivalent methods of doing that.
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[3:45:41] I know if Mont Verds looked at it,
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[3:45:43] but through assessments I've not heard.
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[3:45:46] Yeah.
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[3:45:46] Could they could they do it,
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[3:45:48] though,
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[3:45:48] if they did it with the county?
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[3:45:51] Yeah. You said you, the county can do it.
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[3:45:53] So if they opted in, correct, we,
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[3:45:56] we could, they would have to opt
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[3:45:58] in by ordinance and then we would
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[3:45:59] bring that back kind of like what
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[3:46:01] we've done with the fire with some of
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[3:46:03] we've taken over some of the fire.
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[3:46:05] I was just thinking about how this,
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[3:46:06] you know, sort of goes hand in hand
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[3:46:08] with the whole strong towns concept
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[3:46:11] of we build these subdivisions,
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[3:46:13] developers build them, and then we,
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[3:46:15] the public take over taking care of
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[3:46:17] them for the rest of all time, right.
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[3:46:20] Whereas this provides that mechanism.
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[3:46:22] So it's not coming out of the general
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[3:46:24] fund or out of gas tax money, etcetera.
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[3:46:26] Yeah, exactly.
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[3:46:30] OK, now I'm sorry for that discussion.
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[3:46:31] No, that's good.
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[3:46:32] Because you would think the city would
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[3:46:34] do either they would say, OK, keep,
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[3:46:36] we'll keep the county MSBU and let
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[3:46:39] them do it, or they would have some
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[3:46:41] equivalent of assessing 200 and 3072.
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[3:46:44] Yeah, but that's their choice.
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[3:46:46] I guess they'll run into the math
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[3:46:48] on that later. Seems like a lot,
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[3:46:50] a lot of these get may get annexed
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[3:46:52] prior to even come to the point where
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[3:46:55] the board could even consider an MSPU.
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[3:46:56] You know, they get approved and
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[3:46:57] they get annexed, you know, So,
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[3:46:59] yeah, that may happen also. OK,
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[3:47:04] I'm done. Don't worry.
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[3:47:05] I'm not going to say anything else.
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[3:47:08] He's been thinking about lunch.
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[3:47:09] He's thinking about MSP.
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[3:47:12] I'm just thinking about
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[3:47:13] someone making a motion.
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[3:47:15] We already did.
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[3:47:16] It's already been seconded.
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[3:47:17] Motion, you seconded
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[3:47:18] getting a little grind.
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[3:47:20] We're already
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[3:47:24] all those in favor Say aye, aye.
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[3:47:26] Opposed. Motion carries 50. Thank you,
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[3:47:32] Commissioner Parks.
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[3:47:35] OK, Tab 24. Yes, Sir, we have.
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[3:47:42] I'm not really active in Naco.
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[3:47:44] I don't think any of us really are
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[3:47:46] the National Association of Counties,
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[3:47:48] but we do have a commissioner from
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[3:47:51] Charlotte County, Bill Truex,
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[3:47:53] who is a very solid viable candidate
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[3:47:55] for leadership at the National
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[3:47:57] Association of Counties level.
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[3:47:59] So the request is that we just provide some
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[3:48:02] kind of approval to give our proxy vote.
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[3:48:05] I'm not going to go to the conference,
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[3:48:06] but we just would give a proxy vote
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[3:48:09] to the to the Florida Association
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[3:48:11] of Counties to vote for Bill
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[3:48:13] Truex from Charlotte County.
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[3:48:15] And we would just need some kind of a
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[3:48:18] approval and a motion on that or yeah,
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[3:48:20] me and Jennifer will go over that and OK,
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[3:48:23] yeah, do it however they want it.
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[3:48:25] Yeah, exactly.
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[3:48:28] So there's no, no questions on that.
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[3:48:30] I'll just make a motion.
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[3:48:31] I'll make a motion for that approval.
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[3:48:33] Second, we have a motion.
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[3:48:34] And 2nd, any further discussion?
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[3:48:36] All those in favor say aye
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[3:48:38] aye opposed Motion carries 50
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[3:48:43] OK other business to discuss to to
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[3:48:47] appoint 2 county commissioners select
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[3:48:49] a chairperson and an appointee 1
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[3:48:53] Civic member Value Adjustment Board.
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[3:48:57] So we have got to do the
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[3:49:00] value Adjustment board.
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[3:49:02] Commissioner Blake and Commissioner
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[3:49:04] Shields were served on the
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[3:49:06] Value Adjustment Board in 2023.
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[3:49:08] I'll make a motion for another year.
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[3:49:12] That would. That would be nice,
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[3:49:13] but we cannot include Commissioner
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[3:49:14] Blake on that one. I'm just kidding.
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[3:49:17] I know there would be a little problem
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[3:49:19] with that. Yeah, there would be.
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[3:49:23] So, Commissioner Shields,
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[3:49:24] are you willing to continue on? Sure.
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[3:49:27] Let me just throw this out there. I mean,
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[3:49:30] he is up for election and I don't know.
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[3:49:32] I'm looking at the clerk's office when
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[3:49:34] Value Adjustment Board begins to meet.
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[3:49:36] You guys know generally when that is?
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[3:49:38] Would it be after election?
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[3:49:40] Is it?
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[3:49:41] I think it starts September.
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[3:49:43] It's when you get your it's in September.
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[3:49:46] They start sending notices
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[3:49:53] like advertising things in July and then
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[3:49:55] the meeting start, I think. Yeah, so,
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[3:49:57] So in order to not have any confusion,
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[3:49:59] there's three of us up here for re election.
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[3:50:02] There's only two people up here and,
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[3:50:04] oh, the number is 2 that we need.
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[3:50:10] I was just testing it to see if you were on.
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[3:50:13] But I, you know, I'm,
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[3:50:14] I guess I'm prepared to be on it again.
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[3:50:15] But Commissioner Parks, you know what?
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[3:50:17] I certainly appreciate your dedication
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[3:50:19] to be on the Value Adjustment Board.
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[3:50:21] Commissioner Campion,
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[3:50:22] I'm happy to serve and I'm glad
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[3:50:25] to see that that my colleague,
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[3:50:27] Commissioner Parks is too.
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[3:50:28] So we'll have fun. Yeah,
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[3:50:31] and we also need to designate one of you as
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[3:50:33] the chairman for the Value Adjustment Board.
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[3:50:35] I think I I'd make a recommendation.
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[3:50:37] I was going to recommend
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[3:50:39] Commissioner Gambion.
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[3:50:39] I got to 1st. I would first.
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[3:50:41] So all I have to do is pass the gavel like
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[3:50:44] I learned that parliamentary procedure.
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[3:50:46] Yeah, that's right.
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[3:50:47] So do you want a motion to to name
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[3:50:49] Commissioner Campion and Commissioner
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[3:50:50] Parks to the Value Adjustment Board with
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[3:50:53] Commissioner Parks serving as chairman,
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[3:50:54] Commissioner Campion as chairman,
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[3:50:58] second.
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[3:50:58] OK, we have a motion and a
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[3:51:00] second no further discussion.
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[3:51:04] All those in favor say aye.
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[3:51:06] Aye, we do have it looks like we need
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[3:51:09] to do a citizen appointment, correct.
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[3:51:11] We're we're going to do that next.
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[3:51:13] All those opposed motion carries.
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[3:51:17] Did you say aye on you? I said aye.
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[3:51:21] OK, moving on down to the Value
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[3:51:24] Adjustment Board for Citizens,
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[3:51:27] I'll make a motion for Tanya Moore.
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[3:51:30] Second. OK, we have a motion
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[3:51:33] and a second for Tanya Moore.
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[3:51:34] Any further discussion?
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[3:51:37] All those in favor say aye, aye.
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[3:51:39] Opposed Motion carries 50.
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[3:51:42] Commissioner Campion on tap 26.
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[3:51:44] I just want to confirm with
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[3:51:45] staff though that this is,
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[3:51:46] we have two appointments here.
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[3:51:49] This is not an either or.
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[3:51:52] That's correct.
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[3:51:53] It's different categories.
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[3:51:54] OK, perfect. That's what I thought.
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[3:51:56] So I'll make a motion for approval of
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[3:51:59] Marie Alberti and Anthony A Shu Tutu.
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[3:52:04] It's not that easy, is it?
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[3:52:06] I don't think you got one that hard today.
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[3:52:09] I'll see a Tutu.
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[3:52:10] I'll see a Tutu to serve on the
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[3:52:13] Affordable Housing Advisory Committee
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[3:52:15] and to approve their waivers.
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[3:52:18] Second. All right.
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[3:52:19] We have a motion to second.
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[3:52:20] All those in favor say aye
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[3:52:22] aye opposed motion carries
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[3:52:26] 50I want to say thank you for
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[3:52:29] everybody to stuck around all
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[3:52:33] three of you.
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[3:52:35] Thank you Marty for sticking around.
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[3:52:37] Appreciate it All right,
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[3:52:39] moving on down to reports,
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[3:52:41] Melanie, Jennifer,
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[3:52:42] I don't have anything Commissioner
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[3:52:46] Shields yesterday Lake Sumter State
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[3:52:50] College had a sort of master planning
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[3:52:52] exercise for what they're going to
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[3:52:54] do with their Claremont campus.
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[3:52:56] A lot of really good ideas.
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[3:52:57] So if you if you want to
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[3:52:58] get involved in that,
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[3:52:59] it's going to be going on for a while.
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[3:53:00] They got, I don't know 40 acres
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[3:53:01] or something that they're trying
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[3:53:02] to figure out what to do with.
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[3:53:06] Went to a a Business Journal
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[3:53:08] doing business in in Lake County.
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[3:53:11] Commissioner Parks was
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[3:53:11] there with me for that.
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[3:53:13] Had an early learning Coalition
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[3:53:16] meeting and then y'all got the e-mail
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[3:53:19] or the article about the trucks on on
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[3:53:22] Villa City and the residents trying
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[3:53:24] to do something about it for safety.
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[3:53:27] Had a big meeting there and I
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[3:53:29] think we're going to get that on
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[3:53:31] the agenda end of August. Yeah.
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[3:53:33] So we'll we'll talk about that then.
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[3:53:36] Thank you
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[3:53:39] Commissioner Parks.
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[3:53:40] Just also want to say that
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[3:53:42] doing doing business in Lake,
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[3:53:43] I thought was a great event
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[3:53:45] Mcclaremont last week.
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[3:53:46] So thanks for the staff and we
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[3:53:48] we supported that and sponsored
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[3:53:50] it and it went over very well.
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[3:53:52] It's good way to present the county.
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[3:53:54] So thank you.
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[3:53:56] And then just wanted to see if so off of the,
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[3:54:01] the comprehensive plan
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[3:54:02] discussion that we had earlier.
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[3:54:04] It would be a really good time,
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[3:54:05] I think for communications to let
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[3:54:09] everybody know that we're going
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[3:54:10] to be going into this visioning
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[3:54:11] process with the comp plan.
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[3:54:12] I think that's pretty big news.
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[3:54:14] I think the land acquisition
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[3:54:16] referendum was really big for today.
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[3:54:18] I know you're being careful
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[3:54:18] on how to advertise for that,
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[3:54:20] but I think you, you know,
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[3:54:22] you probably can't.
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[3:54:23] But I think for for the comp plan,
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[3:54:26] I think it is the residents,
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[3:54:28] the citizens would would be,
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[3:54:29] I think it'd be good for them to know
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[3:54:32] that we're going to be entering into
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[3:54:34] this process of making some big changes.
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[3:54:36] So with the comp plan,
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[3:54:38] as soon as we get through the RFP process,
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[3:54:40] then we will start notifying.
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[3:54:42] But we have to go through
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[3:54:43] that process 1st to get.
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[3:54:44] Yeah,
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[3:54:44] I'm just saying.
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[3:54:45] But you could generally you could start
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[3:54:48] talking about it now that there's
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[3:54:50] going to be workshops as Mike has
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[3:54:52] said that are going to be coming up.
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[3:54:54] I mean, you can never do that too much.
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[3:54:56] I don't think to get the word out
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[3:54:58] about it because that's a big deal.
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[3:55:00] I think it's a really big deal.
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[3:55:02] And I just, again, that's a big policy issue.
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[3:55:05] It's, it's outside of the budget.
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[3:55:06] It's one of the biggest
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[3:55:08] policy things that we do.
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[3:55:09] So I,
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[3:55:09] I think it'd be good to let
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[3:55:11] start people know now that that
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[3:55:13] we're going into that process.
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[3:55:14] And then we could be,
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[3:55:15] we could be getting into some form
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[3:55:17] based hybrid codes, who knows.
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[3:55:19] We don't have to mention that maybe no,
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[3:55:20] we don't want to mention any details yet.
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[3:55:22] Yeah, but you do want for that to be valid.
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[3:55:24] I think we want a lot of
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[3:55:26] people to participate, right.
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[3:55:27] So, so I,
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[3:55:28] I'd expect that it'll take
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[3:55:30] how long for the RFP process?
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[3:55:34] 333 to six months, Yeah,
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[3:55:36] but 3-3 to six months.
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[3:55:38] Nobody's going to remember today, though.
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[3:55:39] Well, that's what I'm saying.
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[3:55:40] If we start advertising it today
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[3:55:42] and then it's going to be three
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[3:55:43] to six months before we even have
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[3:55:45] a date for a community meeting.
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[3:55:46] Think once we get a little
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[3:55:48] bit closer to naming the,
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[3:55:50] OR selecting the vendor to
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[3:55:51] do the comp plan rewrite,
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[3:55:53] we can start advertising well ahead of,
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[3:55:55] of meetings,
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[3:55:56] a month or more ahead of meetings and stuff.
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[3:55:59] I don't want it to get lost in the,
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[3:56:01] I understand that,
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[3:56:02] but also people are going to,
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[3:56:03] they'll be asking And so it's
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[3:56:04] easy for us when we get asked
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[3:56:06] about it that we're going to be
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[3:56:07] doing that. You point to
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[3:56:09] some media that we've done.
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[3:56:11] So I, I'm just one guy,
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[3:56:14] but I think that would be
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[3:56:15] something we, you know,
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[3:56:16] you'd want to start talking about.
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[3:56:20] Commissioner can't be home.
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[3:56:23] Let's see, just update yesterday I
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[3:56:26] went to our transportation disadvantage
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[3:56:28] coordinating board meeting and you
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[3:56:31] know we meet there at the MPO office
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[3:56:34] and our paratransit ridership is,
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[3:56:37] is up significantly.
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[3:56:40] Our life sustaining trips
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[3:56:42] in particular are much,
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[3:56:44] much higher this year
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[3:56:49] from the standpoint of being
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[3:56:51] able to provide the service.
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[3:56:52] I think they're down like
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[3:56:54] five or six drivers.
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[3:56:56] They've had some folks that they've
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[3:57:00] lost just because of serious illnesses
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[3:57:03] and things like that trying to,
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[3:57:06] but that's creating a deficiency.
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[3:57:08] You know, we're having some issues.
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[3:57:11] People are trying to get their rides
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[3:57:13] and they can't get their rides.
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[3:57:14] But one really great statistic we learned
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[3:57:17] about was the on time percentage is like 96%.
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[3:57:21] So that's a huge, huge improvement.
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[3:57:23] But it's, it's a,
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[3:57:26] it's a difficult thing to coordinate
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[3:57:28] those trips because they're by
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[3:57:30] appointment and you have a certain number
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[3:57:32] of people that sometimes they don't,
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[3:57:34] they make their appointment there,
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[3:57:35] they don't show or they make their
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[3:57:38] appointment bus drivers late.
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[3:57:39] They get to their appointment,
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[3:57:40] their doctor's appointment late and they
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[3:57:42] get charged if they're not there on time.
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[3:57:44] So we had a member of the public come
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[3:57:47] in and talk to us about wanting to add
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[3:57:49] a route to Ocala because of specialists
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[3:57:52] that are in Ocala that they don't have here.
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[3:57:55] So it's,
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[3:57:56] you'd be surprised just because I've
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[3:57:59] immersed in this and I'm aware of it,
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[3:58:01] but you'd be surprised how many people
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[3:58:03] in Lake County depend upon this,
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[3:58:04] the service to be able to get to
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[3:58:06] their doctor's appointments and to
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[3:58:08] get their groceries and so forth.
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[3:58:11] So, but we did this this past round,
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[3:58:14] our staff had put in for a grant
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[3:58:16] for on demand,
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[3:58:17] an on demand program that would,
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[3:58:20] we were really hoping that we would get it.
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[3:58:21] We did not get the grant,
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[3:58:23] but we are going to.
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[3:58:25] They were given the option of
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[3:58:27] taking half of being awarded half
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[3:58:28] the money and they decided we can't
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[3:58:31] run the program for half the money.
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[3:58:33] So they're,
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[3:58:34] they're reapplying and putting
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[3:58:35] together another grant,
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[3:58:37] but they shared someone that was
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[3:58:39] there from dot shared with us
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[3:58:41] and some of the other folks that
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[3:58:42] were there were aware of it.
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[3:58:43] Volusia County has put together using the
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[3:58:45] same grant and on demand system where
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[3:58:48] they actually bought all the vehicles.
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[3:58:51] They have the drivers,
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[3:58:52] they run the whole program.
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[3:58:53] And it's not just for paratransit.
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[3:58:57] You can use it for any resident in,
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[3:59:00] in Volusia County can use it.
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[3:59:03] They actually got rid of a couple of
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[3:59:04] their bus routes that were internal,
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[3:59:05] I think to the land itself in
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[3:59:08] order to come up with the funds
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[3:59:09] to be able to provide the service.
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[3:59:11] What they were looking at is people
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[3:59:13] have been taking shorter trips and
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[3:59:14] being able to have a way to get
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[3:59:17] there as opposed to having the,
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[3:59:19] you know,
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[3:59:20] they're circulating routes in two locations.
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[3:59:22] I think that's how they described
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[3:59:23] that they were able to make it work.
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[3:59:25] But it's fascinating because it
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[3:59:27] seems that that would be a much more
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[3:59:31] economical way to be able to get
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[3:59:33] people where they need to go and
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[3:59:34] do it more efficient, efficiently.
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[3:59:36] So we're, we're,
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[3:59:38] our staff is going to put in for
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[3:59:40] that grant again and hopefully put
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[3:59:42] something together that we can get
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[3:59:44] it in in time and make it work. So
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[3:59:50] maybe one of these days I'll
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[3:59:52] work with staff to invite you
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[3:59:54] all to maybe do a trip or do a,
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[3:59:57] a bus route, you know,
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[3:59:58] on the paratransit and just get a feel for.
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[4:00:02] How important this program
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[4:00:02] is in in the county it
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[4:00:06] is. OK. Thank you, Commissioner Blake.
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[4:00:09] Yeah, I just want to mention one thing.
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[4:00:11] Apparently this was printed in March,
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[4:00:13] but I didn't really sit down and
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[4:00:14] go through it till last week.
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[4:00:15] But the visit Lake magazine that they
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[4:00:17] put together Ryan Ritchie and his crew,
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[4:00:19] whoever else was involved
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[4:00:20] in that turned out great.
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[4:00:22] It's a really well done polished
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[4:00:25] piece of work and I just wanted to
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[4:00:27] give them props for that because
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[4:00:28] I I had a chance last week to look
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[4:00:29] at it and I was very impressed.
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[4:00:31] Took it home and showed it to my kids.
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[4:00:32] They were impressed too.
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[4:00:33] If you want to visit late, it does.
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[4:00:34] It does. I thought it was great.
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[4:00:36] That's it. All right.
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[4:00:39] Speaking about Ryan Ritchie,
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[4:00:42] I have a a luncheon do to do a
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[4:00:47] send off for Star Athletic Group
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[4:00:50] that we're sponsoring who is the
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[4:00:53] track and field team going to the
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[4:00:56] Olympic Trials in Oregon next week.
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[4:00:58] So good luck to them.
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[4:01:03] Jennifer and I had the opportunity to
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[4:01:07] tour the Tavares Lake Tech Public Works
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[4:01:11] technical diesel mechanic facility.
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[4:01:15] It is quite impressive,
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[4:01:18] is really quite impressive.
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[4:01:19] The only thing about that is when we
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[4:01:22] were walking in between the buildings,
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[4:01:24] it was hot yesterday.
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[4:01:25] Yeah, yesterday it was brutal.
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[4:01:27] And it it brought reminders
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[4:01:29] of me back when I was a kid
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[4:01:33] in Zellwood. Everybody remember
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[4:01:35] the Zellwood Corn Festival?
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[4:01:36] Yes, In July, though.
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[4:01:38] Yeah, that's in July. But.
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[4:01:40] But today is a special day, Corn day,
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[4:01:42] because today is National Corn on the cop
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[4:01:46] Day, and that's all we have for our meeting.
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[4:01:48] Oh. Oh, I asked a question real quick.
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[4:01:51] The bombing range, Pine Castle.
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[4:01:53] Those of you that have gone,
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[4:01:55] you just wear comfortable shoes.
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[4:01:56] I'm going tomorrow. Yeah.
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[4:01:57] Just tennis shoes are fine.
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[4:01:59] You, you won't be able to get on the range.
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[4:02:01] OK. All right. All right.
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[4:02:02] Nice. And airplanes bring some.
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[4:02:04] Well, I bet they give you some, but OK,
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[4:02:07] sorry to interrupt. And that's OK.
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[4:02:10] No, that's a good question.
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[4:02:11] Eat corn on the cob today.
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[4:02:12] And I'm glad you're going because that's
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[4:02:15] the phenomenal facility up there.
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[4:02:17] So good luck to Star Athletics.
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[4:02:20] Congratulations Ryan Ritchie on on your
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[4:02:23] magazine and everything you're doing
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[4:02:25] to help visit Lake and Elevate Lake.
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[4:02:28] It's truly making a difference with our
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[4:02:31] economy. I certainly appreciate it.
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[4:02:33] And today,
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[4:02:34] go out and have some corn on the cob.
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[4:02:36] Meeting adjourned,
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[4:02:47] but you how much in his house when you were?