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It was mountainous.

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So I pull over toward
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toward the railroad bridge.

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I can only have
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Lindsay went out to
get my glasses for me.

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I went out and looked and
start or wait till she gets it.

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Yeah Lindsay went out to
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Good afternoon and
welcome to the August 19

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to very city council meeting.

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I'd like to remind everyone to
please put your phone on vibrate

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or silent.

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If you'd like an agenda
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you'll have the agendas.

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If you'd like the agenda and
there's some little cards you

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just fill out your name
and the agenda item

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you'd like to speak on
and give it there to Mr.

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Dykes at the end of the table.

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He'll get it up to me.

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And when we get to that
item, I'll call you up.

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And with that, I am going
to invite pastor Greg watts

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from the Leesburg
church in Tavares

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to come up and lead
us in our invocation

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and pledge of Allegiance.

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All right let's pray.

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Lord, thank you so
much for this day.

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Thank you for this city
that we all live in

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and do business with.

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And Lord, I just
pray that you'll

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just continue to bless it.

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Thank you for these leaders
in this room that stepped up

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to serve, and I just pray that
you'll just bless this meeting

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tonight and give the leaders
discernment and understanding

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and wisdom from you, Lord.

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And we ask this in Jesus' name.

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Amen amen.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag
of the United States of America,

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and to the Republic
for which it stands.

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One nation under
God, indivisible,

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with liberty and
justice for all.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Pastor what.

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You struck out.

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I guess I wasn't the
only one who missed then.

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Are they reading glasses.

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Yeah maybe I could do those.

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They're prescription.

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And so are these.

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It's just for you.

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Oh, yeah.

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Kind of.

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Kind of.

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All right.

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We're going to move on to
the approval of the agenda.

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Staff, do you have any changes.

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None from staff council.

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Move to approve.

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I'll second it.

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Motion and second.

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All those raise a hand.

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Motion passes 5 to 0.

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Proclamations and
presentations have two to

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various governmental advocacy.

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Representative update Mr. Drury,
previously the city council

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selected continental strategies
to represent and advocate

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on behalf of the city on matters
related to federal and state

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initiatives.

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Ashley spicola, managing partner
of continental strategies

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in Tallahassee, will
provide the council

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with an update on the state
legislative session that

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concluded in March, as
well as the special session

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that concluded in June.

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Come on up.

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I will be succinct so we
can get to the real star

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of the show that's behind me.

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So, as we last night was
the state primary elections.

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Byron Donalds will be
the Republican candidate.

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David jolly will be the
Democratic candidate.

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We'll be sending all of you.

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I think it goes out
maybe right as we speak.

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The elections update.

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So you guys will
get a full rundown

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of what's going on statewide.

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It will definitely
affect what happens here.

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I'll start with our
federal efforts.

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We had a really successful
fly in December,

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where we met with our
Florida delegation,

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including members outside of
just our local delegation.

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We met with Representative
Patronis, Senator Scott, Senator

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Moody's office as
a result of that,

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while we weren't on
the recommended list,

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we're still a project of merit,
which means we're still alive.

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And I have our office has
reached out to us as a result

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of the newest developments on
the rails to trails program,

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and we're going to be
looking to set up a meeting,

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I think, in
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based on the availability of
the folks to rebrief them,

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and they seemed very
excited about that.

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I think the biggest holdout
was the property acquisition.

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And since that piece looks
like it's kind of been handled,

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I think that it'll
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competitive on the next
round of the funding.

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So I look forward to
continuing to work on that.

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And then for the state
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it was another wild one.

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If this is your first one
you've been following.

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We didn't end on
time and we had two

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special sessions, one for
budget, one for property tax.

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I don't want to go into
the downer property tax,

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so I'll just go
on to the budget.

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This year's budget was 114.5
billion, which is 300 million

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than last year with
800 million in vetoes.

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I think as a result of our
successful fly in guys there

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to tell the story is impactful.

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And we saw that in the results.

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We had one budget veto that was
pretty small compared to what

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other people experienced.

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I think we were very successful.

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We got almost $1 million
for the city of Tavares,

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including the $600,000
for Golden Triangle

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and 350,000 for the culvert.

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We couldn't have done it
without our local delegation.

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Senator Trudeau, Senator
or representative Bukowski

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really came through for us.

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And then we follow through
with the governor's office.

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And they remember
talking to you guys.

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So it really does
make a difference.

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The return on
investment is there.

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Nobody speaks about
these projects

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better than the people that
live it every day except for me,

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who's from this area and loves
it so much and everyone knows.

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So I'm looking forward to
another successful year.

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I know that you guys have are
still discussing your budget,

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but I really I'm actually
will be down in Lake County

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for the next three weeks.

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So I talked to James about maybe
getting some time next Wednesday

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with you guys to hear about
what projects maybe we'd

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want to work with our delegation
to put forward as budget items.

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And I think we have a
good story to tell here.

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And every time I just got
to see James's new building.

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Amazing like the things
that are going on here

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are we're so lucky.

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And I'm lucky to get to tell
that story in Tallahassee.

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So I don't know if
you guys want me

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to throw it to the next person
or if anyone has questions.

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Well, just thank
you for your help

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because obviously
you were a big one.

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You did a great job of
getting us around when we were

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up there because I was lost.

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I had no idea where I was going.

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Walking through those buildings.

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So thank goodness we
had you to get us there.

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I appreciate getting
to represent a place

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that shaped me being from here.

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It's an honor to say great
things about Seabreeze and Lake

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County.

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So thank you guys
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look forward to keep working.

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And it's going to be great.

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We're going to have a
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meetings coming up.

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And I think a
really great I just

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thank you for our Uber driver.

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Yeah Yes Ubers everywhere.

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I can't walk in heels
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Yeah he was great.

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The guy that drove us
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us a good view of everything.

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Made sure we was on time.

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So appreciate it.

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Awesome well I thank
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the star of the show go next.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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Thank you so much.

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And we're going to
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the state appropriations
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by Representative Nan Cobb.

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Good afternoon, everyone.

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I just want to say this.

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And you all know this because
you were up in Tallahassee

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with Ashley.

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I represent seven cities and
not everybody has the funding,

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the opportunities, if you will,
that can afford a lobbyist.

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And you're very blessed
with continental strategies.

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We work very well together.

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We tag teamed well together
between the governor's

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office appropriations chairs.

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We work very, very
well together.

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And so you truly, I have
no idea what you're saying.

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And that's not my business.

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But I will tell you,
whatever you're paying them,

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it's well worth it.

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You've got great representation
in Tallahassee as well.

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So I am pleased to bring you.

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We would like to do
a check presentation

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tonight for and $50,000
to the city of Tavares.

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And as Ashley spoke before to
the Golden Triangle regional

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park, $600,000, and for
the ST Clair Abrams culvert

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replacement at $350,000.

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So any questions on that at all.

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Any questions.

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Thank you for all
the work you did.

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Yeah that was a heavy lift.

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And you did it.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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This session was
dicey, a little dicey,

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and we went back and forth.

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We had it in the
house, not the Senate.

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We had it in the
Senate, not the house.

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I can remember being
in between sessions

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and being in Miami texting
the appropriations chairs

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and saying, here we are.

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Please don't forget us.

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Please don't forget us.

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I mean, it was really
not a fun trip, right.

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It was a fun trip,
but it wasn't.

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So we were consistently
working for the city.

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And I just want to
thank you for allowing

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me to represent
you all, and I will

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continue to do the good work.

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I look forward to actually
meeting with you all next week.

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And then come to us and let's
talk about the appropriations

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and what we think we can
get bought, if you will.

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Make sure we have
skin in the game.

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And because in
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the Senate may be
a little different.

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But in the house
we've got our half.

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Where's your half.

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That's how we operate.

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And I don't see much changing
from this year to last year.

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So I look forward to seeing
what the projects are.

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All right.

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So without further
ado, if we could,

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would you like to
take a picture with us

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on the check presentation.

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Absolutely, Ashley,
I'd like to come up.

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And where would you all.

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You all want to stand up here.

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OK come with us.

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One, two three 1.

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Two three.

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One two.

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Three Brandon.

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Sorry Brandon.

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All right.

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Thank you very much.

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Very much.

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you.

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I was hoping.

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Would you please.

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Do that.

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That's pretty cool.

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OK thank you.

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You're welcome.

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Oh thank you.

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Nan thanks, Nan.

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Thank you.

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Yeah thank you,
Representative Cobb.

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And thank you also from
southeastern strategies.

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Continental strategy.

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Continental yeah.

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Thank you so much for all the
work that you put into this.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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We're going to move on to
tab 4 proclamation inaugural

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in a mi Lake County walk.

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Whereas mental health is
an essential component

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of overall health
and well-being,

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and millions of Americans,
along with their families

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and loved ones, are affected
by mental health conditions

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each year.

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And whereas the National
Alliance on Mental illness

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is the nation's largest
grassroots mental Health

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Organization
dedicated to improving

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the lives of individuals
and families affected

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by mental illness through
education, advocacy,

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support and public awareness.

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And whereas in Lake County
is launching a new chapter

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to provide free
educational programs,

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support groups and resources
for residents throughout Lake

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County, helping
to reduce stigma,

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foster understanding, and
encourage hope and recovery.

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And whereas the inaugural
Lake County walk,

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to be held on October 10,
2026, will bring together

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community members in support
of Mental Health Awareness

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while encouraging compassion,
acceptance, and access

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to resources for
individuals and families

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affected by mental illness.

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Now, therefore, be it proclaimed
by the city council of the city

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of Tavares, Florida, that they
proudly express their support

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for the Lake County
inaugural walk

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and commend the volunteers,
participants, sponsors

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and community partners
whose dedication helps

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promote mental health
awareness and support

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throughout Lake County.

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Past and duly adopted by
the city council on this

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19th day of August 2026.

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And they're here.

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So if y'all would like to come
up and we'll present you with

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this vote on how to vote on it.

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I would vote.

320
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OK yeah.

321
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Let's vote.

322
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Let's vote on it.

323
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Yeah, I'll make the motion.

324
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Yeah I moved we have
a motion and a second.

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All those in favor.

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Aye Motion passes 5 to 0.

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All right.

328
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329
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Yeah y'all want to.

330
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Y'all have someone you want
to take a picture or anything.

331
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OK, OK.

332
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You can present to them.

333
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OK, sure.

334
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335
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Close to the mirror.

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337
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Oh, no.

338
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339
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All right.

340
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341
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All right.

342
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And again.

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344
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You want to say a few
words about the event.

345
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Sure as was in the
proclamation on October 10,

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Tavares will be hosting
the inaugural Lake

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County Mental health walk.

348
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Because that's October
10 is mental Health Day.

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So NAMI is always
looking for sponsors.

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Anybody out there who would
like to sponsor tables or come

351
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out and walk because they
do everything for free,

352
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they need to raise money for
things so they do not charge

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families for any services
or all the things

354
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that they do to help people who
are dealing with mental illness.

355
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So whatever we can do in the
city, get out there and help,

356
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that would be really great.

357
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It's a great organization
and it's just

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long overdue coming here now.

359
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Luckily, we have people who are
doing a great job of putting it

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together and making
mental health

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a priority here in Lake County.

362
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Thank you.

363
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And thank you all for the
great job that you're doing.

364
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I'm excited to see
your organization grow.

365
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Thank you.

366
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All right.

367
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We're going to move
on to tab five.

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Rails to trails funding
program update Mr. Dillon.

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370
00:18:03,020 --> 00:18:04,260
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

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Vice mayor, members of council.

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I'm pleased to announce
that last Tuesday, the Board

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of County Commissioners
unanimously approved our $23.5

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million public lands and trails
application to acquire the 11

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mile CSX railroad corridor.

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A major milestone for the wekiva
trail regional and the city

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of Tavares.

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This decision affirms firms to
very long standing commitment

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and strengthening our
regional connectivity,

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supporting economic
growth, enhancing

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the quality of life for our
residents for generations

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to come.

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Those who attended the
BCC meeting last week

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witnessed to various
leadership standing

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United in support of this
transformational project.

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Mayor Mr. Vice mayor Bobby
Grenier, council member Walter

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price, city administrator John
Drury, recreation director Scott

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Aldridge, sports services
Director Mark O'Keefe were

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present to demonstrate the
city's commitment to a more

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connected, vibrant future.

391
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Although council member
Sandy gamble and town

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were unable to attend
scheduling conflicts,

393
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I wanted to acknowledge that
they were very much with us

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in spirit.

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Fully supportive and aligned
with the city's vision.

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I would also like to extend
a special recognition

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to John Drury, whose
leadership and advocacy

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were instrumental in
articulating the long term

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value of this acquisition is.

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Remarks from the dais
at the BCC meeting

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underscored that this
corridor represents

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a once in a generation
opportunity to advance safety,

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recreation, economic vitality
and regional mobility

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throughout our community.

405
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So what's next with the Board
of County commissioners.

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Approval of the full $50
million bond issuance

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anticipated in November.

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The project is positioned on
a strong financial foundation

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over the next six months.

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Lake County.

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The trust for Public
Land, Mount Dora Tavares,

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will begin with the
pre-acquisition due diligence

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work and closely work with
our government relations

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firm on the upcoming
build application

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to construct the trail.

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Congratulations, council!

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Your shared vision and
steadfast leadership

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continue to shape
Tavares into a stronger,

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more vibrant community.

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This achievement
reflects your dedication

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and contributes to a brighter
future for our residents.

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I'm happy to answer any
questions you may have.

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Back to you, Mayor.

424
00:20:25,490 --> 00:20:27,330
Thank you, Mr. Dhillon.

425
00:20:27,330 --> 00:20:30,010
Council, do you
have any questions.

426
00:20:30,010 --> 00:20:31,630
No, just a great job.

427
00:20:31,630 --> 00:20:34,370
Obviously, we've been
working at it for a while

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and the County was able
to help us out some so.

429
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But I know you have things
well in hand and what's next.

430
00:20:40,750 --> 00:20:45,070
So it's nice to see a staff that
just doesn't let go of a vision.

431
00:20:45,070 --> 00:20:48,930
No I love watching
it and witnessing

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00:20:48,930 --> 00:20:52,050
that great leadership.

433
00:20:52,050 --> 00:20:57,170
And Mr. Curry, could you tell us
are people in the audience who

434
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maybe would like to Could you
just touch on how long we've

435
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been working on this project.

436
00:21:02,610 --> 00:21:05,070
I would say we've
been working on.

437
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Well, it's been in
the works 20 years,

438
00:21:08,230 --> 00:21:11,410
but we've probably been working
very hard with the applications

439
00:21:11,410 --> 00:21:15,690
and the studies and the
appraisals and the trips

440
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to Washington, DC to get the
money and different places,

441
00:21:19,870 --> 00:21:21,590
probably for seven years.

442
00:21:21,590 --> 00:21:25,830
Yeah well, thank everyone
for a lot of work.

443
00:21:25,830 --> 00:21:28,270
Yeah I want to thank
everyone for their hard work

444
00:21:28,270 --> 00:21:32,450
and their due diligence and
not giving up on a project.

445
00:21:32,450 --> 00:21:33,730
That's something
that we're good at.

446
00:21:33,730 --> 00:21:36,250
We hang with it
until we get it done.

447
00:21:36,250 --> 00:21:39,550
So thank you, James,
for your hard work.

448
00:21:39,550 --> 00:21:40,930
You've been involved
with this project.

449
00:21:40,930 --> 00:21:41,450
Thank you.

450
00:21:41,450 --> 00:21:42,350
Thank you.

451
00:21:42,350 --> 00:21:50,250
Thanks OK.

452
00:21:50,250 --> 00:21:52,590
We're going to move on to
tab 6 to various chamber

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of Commerce update.

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455
00:21:58,670 --> 00:22:01,990
Hi Stephanie Hays from
the Chamber of Commerce.

456
00:22:01,990 --> 00:22:06,750
Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor
and members of the city council.

457
00:22:06,750 --> 00:22:10,850
So, so far this past month
coming in for our traffic,

458
00:22:10,850 --> 00:22:14,070
we had approximately between
100 and 36, 140 people

459
00:22:14,070 --> 00:22:16,570
come in as far as
our membership.

460
00:22:16,570 --> 00:22:19,190
We're approximately 310 now.

461
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So we are building.

462
00:22:20,780 --> 00:22:23,500
We actually have
a ribbon cutting.

463
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Ribbon cutting coming
up on the 27th.

464
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We have 17 businesses
doing a ribbon cutting.

465
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So it's going to be held
at the graceway church.

466
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We have our luncheon
there as well.

467
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Day before.

468
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But this is just the honor.

469
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17 businesses include
from Orlando Health

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all the way down to
small businesses.

471
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So we're all they're each going
to get to cut their ribbons

472
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and we'll have a luncheon.

473
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It's catered.

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So everybody would love to
have you all here and all come.

475
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Other than that, it's pretty
much our gala right now

476
00:22:52,780 --> 00:22:54,640
is on a to be determined list.

477
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:55,860
Just waiting.

478
00:22:55,860 --> 00:22:57,340
And so other than
that, we're just

479
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kind of doing our
lunches right now

480
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and our ribbon cuttings
and new memberships.

481
00:23:02,100 --> 00:23:04,380
So any questions.

482
00:23:04,380 --> 00:23:05,240
Yes question.

483
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,340
Sure on Saturdays,
how many people do you

484
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normally have come in to visit.

485
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Majority of the time one.

486
00:23:15,380 --> 00:23:17,040
OK yeah.

487
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And there's many times
that we had a girl.

488
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Our girl actually worked
there on Saturdays,

489
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and now my boards kind of were
taking switching Saturdays,

490
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but when they
haven't had anybody.

491
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So it's slower on Saturdays.

492
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I would say during
events would probably

493
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be the biggest when people
come, maybe try to use

494
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the bathroom sometimes too.

495
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And would the chamber be
interested in trying to do.

496
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As years passed, the chamber
did a lot of involvement with

497
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the special events
that we had, like

498
00:23:48,120 --> 00:23:51,780
4th of July and things of that
nature there, most definitely.

499
00:23:51,780 --> 00:23:54,580
As far as raising
the funding, sure.

500
00:23:54,580 --> 00:23:55,380
We would love to.

501
00:23:55,380 --> 00:23:58,480
We've been wanting to
partner, especially with you

502
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,720
have your Oktoberfest,
you have your trunk

503
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,320
or treating all those.

504
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,440
So I think it would be a more
beneficial for us to be together

505
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,040
doing it rather than
us just on the side

506
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,540
promoting it just for you guys.

507
00:24:11,540 --> 00:24:13,940
I think it would be
a better situation.

508
00:24:13,940 --> 00:24:15,200
OK yes.

509
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:15,860
You're welcome.

510
00:24:15,860 --> 00:24:18,740
You're welcome to come in
and ask, because I remember

511
00:24:18,740 --> 00:24:21,420
previously, the chamber
was very involved

512
00:24:21,420 --> 00:24:24,760
in the majority of our events
that we had, which was great.

513
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:25,960
So yeah, definitely.

514
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:30,260
Absolutely welcome y'all to
come in and take over some

515
00:24:30,260 --> 00:24:32,180
of the responsibilities for it.

516
00:24:32,180 --> 00:24:35,620
Definitely and let the
notoriety go to you.

517
00:24:35,620 --> 00:24:39,140
Hey we'd love to I even
besides participating

518
00:24:39,140 --> 00:24:40,800
I mean helping as far as that.

519
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,440
I mean we even wanted to do
a float and become involved.

520
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:44,700
I don't know why we never did.

521
00:24:44,700 --> 00:24:48,180
So we've been talking a
lot about that as well.

522
00:24:48,180 --> 00:24:52,340
So well, in my experience, in
the past year, the chamber was

523
00:24:52,340 --> 00:24:53,760
involved with the 4th of July.

524
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,820
The city only provided the
police and fire and things

525
00:24:56,820 --> 00:24:57,860
of that nature there.

526
00:24:57,860 --> 00:25:02,060
But the chamber did all the
fireworks and everything

527
00:25:02,060 --> 00:25:03,120
of that nature there.

528
00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:03,820
I gotcha.

529
00:25:03,820 --> 00:25:06,500
Also light up Tavares.

530
00:25:06,500 --> 00:25:07,780
That was done.

531
00:25:07,780 --> 00:25:10,980
Originally done by the
junior woman's club

532
00:25:10,980 --> 00:25:12,980
and the chamber got involved.

533
00:25:12,980 --> 00:25:16,130
But there's other
things as well.

534
00:25:16,130 --> 00:25:19,330
Over the past, I'd like to
see the chamber more involved.

535
00:25:19,330 --> 00:25:23,570
Yes, sir and help the city
alleviate some of the funding.

536
00:25:23,570 --> 00:25:24,810
On that.

537
00:25:24,810 --> 00:25:26,550
Definitely I think
it builds a better,

538
00:25:26,550 --> 00:25:28,410
stronger together partnership.

539
00:25:28,410 --> 00:25:30,730
So yeah.

540
00:25:30,730 --> 00:25:33,250
And we're all about
partnership, for sure.

541
00:25:33,250 --> 00:25:34,110
Well that's good.

542
00:25:34,110 --> 00:25:35,990
You're welcome to
jump in feet first.

543
00:25:35,990 --> 00:25:37,810
OK we're there.

544
00:25:37,810 --> 00:25:38,850
All right.

545
00:25:38,850 --> 00:25:39,350
All right.

546
00:25:39,350 --> 00:25:40,870
Thank you guys for having us.

547
00:25:40,870 --> 00:25:44,310
Thanks anytime.

548
00:25:44,310 --> 00:25:45,810
All right, we're going
to move on to swearing

549
00:25:45,810 --> 00:25:46,910
in by City attorney.

550
00:25:46,910 --> 00:25:49,410
Disclosure of ex
parte communications.

551
00:25:49,410 --> 00:25:50,990
Good afternoon,
Mayor and council.

552
00:25:50,990 --> 00:25:54,330
We do have quasi judicial
matters on the agenda today

553
00:25:54,330 --> 00:25:58,770
there at tabs 9 through 11,
as our quasi judicial nature

554
00:25:58,770 --> 00:26:01,450
of anyone wishing to be
heard on these matters

555
00:26:01,450 --> 00:26:03,690
to be considered competent,
testimony will need to be

556
00:26:03,690 --> 00:26:05,550
sworn, including city staff.

557
00:26:05,550 --> 00:26:07,730
We'll go ahead and
do that at this time.

558
00:26:07,730 --> 00:26:10,010
Please raise your right hand.

559
00:26:10,010 --> 00:26:12,850
Do you solemnly swear or affirm
that the testimony you will give

560
00:26:12,850 --> 00:26:14,210
will be the truth,
the whole truth,

561
00:26:14,210 --> 00:26:16,070
and nothing but the truth.

562
00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:16,810
Thank you.

563
00:26:16,810 --> 00:26:19,730
After city staff presents, if
you do come up to be heard,

564
00:26:19,730 --> 00:26:21,670
please make sure you state
your name and your address.

565
00:26:21,670 --> 00:26:25,210
The clerk can put it into
the minutes and council.

566
00:26:25,210 --> 00:26:27,590
At this time, it would
be proper to disclose

567
00:26:27,590 --> 00:26:31,210
any ex parte communications
regarding taps 9 through 11.

568
00:26:31,210 --> 00:26:35,470
Have there been any
by council members.

569
00:26:35,470 --> 00:26:36,050
Seeing none.

570
00:26:36,050 --> 00:26:37,270
Back to you, Mayor.

571
00:26:37,270 --> 00:26:38,590
All right.

572
00:26:38,590 --> 00:26:41,150
Rating of all ordinances
and resolutions

573
00:26:41,150 --> 00:26:44,030
into the record city
clerk, MS Novak.

574
00:26:44,030 --> 00:26:44,530
Thank you.

575
00:26:44,530 --> 00:26:48,270
Mayor we have three ordinances
for second reading ordinance

576
00:26:48,270 --> 00:26:52,030
2020 604, an ordinance amending
the boundaries of the city

577
00:26:52,030 --> 00:26:58,470
of Tavares by annexing
19.18 plus or minus acres

578
00:26:58,470 --> 00:27:01,310
of non-contiguous property
located East of County

579
00:27:01,310 --> 00:27:04,870
Road 561,
approximately 200 North

580
00:27:04,870 --> 00:27:07,090
of Frankie's road intersection.

581
00:27:07,090 --> 00:27:10,230
Under terms and conditions of
the interlocal service boundary

582
00:27:10,230 --> 00:27:13,130
agreement between the city
of Tavares and Lake County,

583
00:27:13,130 --> 00:27:15,450
rezoning the property
from Lake County MP

584
00:27:15,450 --> 00:27:20,730
planned industrial district
and heavy industrial to City PD

585
00:27:20,730 --> 00:27:23,710
planned development subject
to the rules, regulations,

586
00:27:23,710 --> 00:27:26,710
and obligations retained
by the city of council,

587
00:27:26,710 --> 00:27:28,410
providing for an effective date.

588
00:27:28,410 --> 00:27:33,430
Ordinance 20 2005 an ordinance
of the city of Tavares, Florida,

589
00:27:33,430 --> 00:27:36,730
amending the comprehensive
plan future land use

590
00:27:36,730 --> 00:27:39,870
map 2040 providing for a
change from Lake County.

591
00:27:39,870 --> 00:27:44,430
Future land use designation of
industrial I to City of Tavares.

592
00:27:44,430 --> 00:27:49,130
Industrial I for property
located at County Road 561,

593
00:27:49,130 --> 00:27:52,970
approximately 200 North of
Frankie's road intersection,

594
00:27:52,970 --> 00:27:56,930
providing for severability and
providing for an effective date

595
00:27:56,930 --> 00:27:58,870
in 2020 606.

596
00:27:58,870 --> 00:28:02,270
An ordinance of the city of
Tavares amending ordinance,

597
00:28:02,270 --> 00:28:08,390
2003 25 2013 21 of
the city of Tavares,

598
00:28:08,390 --> 00:28:11,000
generally known as
fisherman's Cove PD,

599
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,720
superseding all said ordinances
with a newly stated plan

600
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,340
development PD ordinance subject
to the rules, regulations,

601
00:28:18,340 --> 00:28:21,340
and obligations ordained by
the city of Tavares council,

602
00:28:21,340 --> 00:28:24,580
providing for severability and
providing for an effective date.

603
00:28:24,580 --> 00:28:27,000
Back to you, Mayor.

604
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,560
Thank you, MS Novak.

605
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:30,060
All right.

606
00:28:30,060 --> 00:28:33,260
We're moving on to the
consent agenda council.

607
00:28:33,260 --> 00:28:35,040
Would you like to move on that.

608
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,180
I'd like to move out of the
consent agenda for discussion.

609
00:28:38,180 --> 00:28:42,040


610
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,180
I hear a motion.

611
00:28:43,180 --> 00:28:43,860
Make a motion.

612
00:28:43,860 --> 00:28:46,680
We approve seven of
the consent agenda.

613
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:47,580
I'll second it.

614
00:28:47,580 --> 00:28:48,460
Motion and second.

615
00:28:48,460 --> 00:28:49,720
All those in favor.

616
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,640
Aye Motion passes 5 to 0.

617
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,200
OK we're going to move
on to tab 8 Mr. Price.

618
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,720
Yeah I just didn't know
for sure if we actually

619
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,280
needed to vote on this
voting delegate thing

620
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,900
because we needed to
get official approval.

621
00:29:04,900 --> 00:29:06,000
I just didn't know
if we actually

622
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,000
had to carry on a formal vote.

623
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,160
Yeah retroactive.

624
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:09,900
Thank you.

625
00:29:09,900 --> 00:29:12,780
Yeah Formal vote.

626
00:29:12,780 --> 00:29:13,480
Yeah OK.

627
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,580
So, do I hear a motion.

628
00:29:16,580 --> 00:29:19,660
I move that we had Mr. Price
being the official delegate

629
00:29:19,660 --> 00:29:22,020
for the League of cities.

630
00:29:22,020 --> 00:29:24,080
Second, second.

631
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,740
All those in favor,
raise a hand to also.

632
00:29:28,740 --> 00:29:30,860
Also, I just wanted
to let everyone know

633
00:29:30,860 --> 00:29:35,740
that city of Tavares
won the local action

634
00:29:35,740 --> 00:29:37,460
award at the Florida
league of cities

635
00:29:37,460 --> 00:29:40,540
conference for our
public works facility

636
00:29:40,540 --> 00:29:43,780
out on Captain Haynes road.

637
00:29:43,780 --> 00:29:48,820
The award was featured on the
marquee that ran the whole time

638
00:29:48,820 --> 00:29:50,500
of the conference.

639
00:29:50,500 --> 00:29:53,140
It was in the agenda program.

640
00:29:53,140 --> 00:29:56,420
It was on an easel board, and
it was on a video that was

641
00:29:56,420 --> 00:29:58,080
shown to the general session.

642
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:03,127
So everywhere I went
during that conference,

643
00:30:03,127 --> 00:30:04,160
people say, where are you from.

644
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:04,940
I'm from.

645
00:30:04,940 --> 00:30:07,120
Oh, I love to bury.

646
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,800
So you guys are doing
great things up there, so

647
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:11,960
gives you a big head.

648
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,020
When you're here.

649
00:30:13,020 --> 00:30:14,900
All these people
praising berries.

650
00:30:14,900 --> 00:30:17,140
But yes, we did win
the local action award.

651
00:30:17,140 --> 00:30:18,960
I just want everyone
to know that.

652
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,880
Yeah you figure there's
411 cities in Florida five

653
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:22,980
cities got awards.

654
00:30:22,980 --> 00:30:23,960
We were one.

655
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,060
Yeah mayor, just real quick.

656
00:30:26,060 --> 00:30:29,720
I appreciate Mr.
Price filling in.

657
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:34,140
I'm on call, and I didn't
see if I got there.

658
00:30:34,140 --> 00:30:35,480
I would have to leave.

659
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:40,080
So that's why contact with John.

660
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,600
I may be here today and
gone tomorrow because of

661
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,480
my sister-in-law situation, so.

662
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,060
But I appreciate Mr. Price doing
that and being there for us.

663
00:30:50,060 --> 00:30:52,440
And I had all intent
to be there because I'm

664
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,920
proud of what Tavares has done
and proud of that facility

665
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,000
out there.

666
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,260
And so I just wanted
to throw that in.

667
00:31:00,260 --> 00:31:03,080


668
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,870
Very understandable.

669
00:31:04,870 --> 00:31:06,410
Council Member
gamble, thank you.

670
00:31:06,410 --> 00:31:07,470
And thank you.

671
00:31:07,470 --> 00:31:10,510
Council Member price,
for standing in

672
00:31:10,510 --> 00:31:13,390
and being the one in charge
when I was unable to go

673
00:31:13,390 --> 00:31:14,250
at the last minute.

674
00:31:14,250 --> 00:31:16,510
So thank you so much.

675
00:31:16,510 --> 00:31:17,110
You're welcome.

676
00:31:17,110 --> 00:31:17,910
All right.

677
00:31:17,910 --> 00:31:20,610
We're going to move on
to resolutions or none.

678
00:31:20,610 --> 00:31:23,810
So we're going to
move to tab nine.

679
00:31:23,810 --> 00:31:38,190


680
00:31:38,190 --> 00:31:39,550
Thank you mayor.

681
00:31:39,550 --> 00:31:42,150
Good afternoon city
council members.

682
00:31:42,150 --> 00:31:44,270
For the record, my
name is Antonio.

683
00:31:44,270 --> 00:31:48,950
Everybody most
people the director,

684
00:31:48,950 --> 00:31:51,310
we're going to bring
over a couple of items

685
00:31:51,310 --> 00:31:53,190
that the city
clerk already read,

686
00:31:53,190 --> 00:31:57,710
which is ordinance 2020 604.

687
00:31:57,710 --> 00:32:01,250
It is approximately
19.18 acres of land.

688
00:32:01,250 --> 00:32:03,170
Non-contiguous
contiguous property

689
00:32:03,170 --> 00:32:08,290
located East of County Road
561 and approximately 200 North

690
00:32:08,290 --> 00:32:10,830
of Frankie's road intersection.

691
00:32:10,830 --> 00:32:15,770
Some people say
junction into Tavares

692
00:32:15,770 --> 00:32:20,130
and rezoning the property
from Lake County.

693
00:32:20,130 --> 00:32:23,990
Planned industrial and
heavy industrial zoning.

694
00:32:23,990 --> 00:32:25,890
We're going to put it
all into one, which

695
00:32:25,890 --> 00:32:29,490
is the planned development.

696
00:32:29,490 --> 00:32:31,890
In summary, the
land is presently

697
00:32:31,890 --> 00:32:36,250
used as light industrial,
warehousing, and vacant land.

698
00:32:36,250 --> 00:32:40,890
The subject property is located
within the interlocal service

699
00:32:40,890 --> 00:32:46,370
boundary agreement, which allows
for the city to annex land

700
00:32:46,370 --> 00:32:50,410
from Lake County, which
from non-contiguous

701
00:32:50,410 --> 00:32:54,270
into the city along a certain
conditions are being met.

702
00:32:54,270 --> 00:32:58,890


703
00:32:58,890 --> 00:33:01,550
Go to the next slide.

704
00:33:01,550 --> 00:33:03,210
With the PD plan.

705
00:33:03,210 --> 00:33:06,230
Development plan development
ordinance comes with a plan

706
00:33:06,230 --> 00:33:08,350
development or conceptual plan.

707
00:33:08,350 --> 00:33:12,590
The conceptual plan
shows the structures

708
00:33:12,590 --> 00:33:15,390
and some additional
structures that are

709
00:33:15,390 --> 00:33:17,390
being added along the frontage.

710
00:33:17,390 --> 00:33:19,750
So they have one or
two existing structures

711
00:33:19,750 --> 00:33:22,230
and they're going to be
expanding, one providing

712
00:33:22,230 --> 00:33:26,750
the parking and providing two
more structures in the front

713
00:33:26,750 --> 00:33:32,430
as a mixture of commercial and
of professional offices and some

714
00:33:32,430 --> 00:33:34,670
recreational commercial use.

715
00:33:34,670 --> 00:33:36,990
Can I have the
next slide, please.

716
00:33:36,990 --> 00:33:38,430
This is a little bit
better because it's

717
00:33:38,430 --> 00:33:40,390
overlaid over the aerial.

718
00:33:40,390 --> 00:33:43,750
You can see the changes
that are being proposed.

719
00:33:43,750 --> 00:33:48,710
Next slide, please.

720
00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:50,790
This is a rendering
of the elevations

721
00:33:50,790 --> 00:33:54,950
on the front buildings facades.

722
00:33:54,950 --> 00:33:56,830
And next one.

723
00:33:56,830 --> 00:34:00,460
All right.

724
00:34:00,460 --> 00:34:02,460
The proposed
annexation and rezoning

725
00:34:02,460 --> 00:34:04,640
is consistent with our
land development code.

726
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,060
It's also consistent with the
interlocal service boundary

727
00:34:07,060 --> 00:34:09,860
agreement and supports
the city's long term

728
00:34:09,860 --> 00:34:11,760
economic development objectives.

729
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:16,880
And our comprehensive
plan staff recommendation.

730
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,580
We always add what
happens in the planning

731
00:34:18,580 --> 00:34:19,679
and zoning department.

732
00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:22,020
Planning and zoning board
meeting that we have.

733
00:34:22,020 --> 00:34:26,500
So on July 16, 2026, the
planning and zoning board

734
00:34:26,500 --> 00:34:31,500
met and voted to recommend
approval of the ordinance

735
00:34:31,500 --> 00:34:32,780
as presented.

736
00:34:32,780 --> 00:34:34,900
There were some questions
from the planning board

737
00:34:34,900 --> 00:34:37,179
that was addressed
at the city council.

738
00:34:37,179 --> 00:34:39,699
I attached a draft
minutes of what

739
00:34:39,699 --> 00:34:42,820
happened in the proceedings,
but it was looked

740
00:34:42,820 --> 00:34:45,380
at pretty much favorably.

741
00:34:45,380 --> 00:34:47,900
Therefore, this
information staff

742
00:34:47,900 --> 00:34:49,699
is recommending that
the city council move

743
00:34:49,699 --> 00:34:54,860
to approve ordinance
2020 604, which includes

744
00:34:54,860 --> 00:34:57,840
the annexation and
rezoning of the property

745
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,160
to Planned development district.

746
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,000
This ordinance, of course, was
reviewed by the city attorney

747
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,780
and for legal sufficiency.

748
00:35:05,780 --> 00:35:10,200
The ordinance is included in
your packet with several maps,

749
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,060
including the traffic study.

750
00:35:13,060 --> 00:35:14,880
That's the accepted
traffic study

751
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:20,240
that we reviewed and approved,
and the environmental report.

752
00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:25,320
That pretty much concludes the
staff report presentation on it.

753
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,040
I'm happy to answer
any technical questions

754
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,280
on the review process
and how it meets

755
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,280
our land development regulations
and our comprehensive plan.

756
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:40,560
We also have the representatives
of the development

757
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,400
and the audience as well.

758
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:43,900
All right.

759
00:35:43,900 --> 00:35:48,560
Thank you Mr. council questions.

760
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:56,320
OK can you tell me what a
recreational commercial uses.

761
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,320
Yes, they want to build a yes.

762
00:35:58,320 --> 00:35:59,620
Actually you can.

763
00:35:59,620 --> 00:36:02,000
They want to build
a pickleball court,

764
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,280
and that's my understanding.

765
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:04,920
They'll be here.

766
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,820
They can elaborate
a little bit more,

767
00:36:06,820 --> 00:36:09,880
but it will be an indoor
pickleball facility.

768
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,300
That's what they envision that
could happen there as well.

769
00:36:13,300 --> 00:36:17,240
So it's not like a machine gun
range or anything like that.

770
00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:18,740
Not that I'm aware of.

771
00:36:18,740 --> 00:36:19,800
The applicant is here.

772
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,900
We can ask them.

773
00:36:21,900 --> 00:36:24,680
OK I was just curious
what that might entail.

774
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,100
I didn't know if it was
ziplines or who knows

775
00:36:27,100 --> 00:36:28,760
what pickleball for right now.

776
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,060
All right.

777
00:36:31,060 --> 00:36:35,300
I think I'd like to say
the applicant is here.

778
00:36:35,300 --> 00:36:38,500
Yeah, I'd like to just
hear, just touch on what

779
00:36:38,500 --> 00:36:42,180
they're planning on doing.

780
00:36:42,180 --> 00:36:45,520
If they'd like to come
up and just briefly,

781
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:50,000
just briefly touch on it so we
know what to get excited for.

782
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,040
Yes good afternoon, Mayor
and council members.

783
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,970
My name is Jennifer
stone and it's 4850

784
00:36:56,970 --> 00:36:59,730
North highway 19, a Mount Dora.

785
00:36:59,730 --> 00:37:01,470
I'm here on behalf of the owner.

786
00:37:01,470 --> 00:37:04,770
We appreciate staff's
work on these applications

787
00:37:04,770 --> 00:37:06,210
and the planning
and zoning board's

788
00:37:06,210 --> 00:37:09,010
recommendation of approval.

789
00:37:09,010 --> 00:37:11,510
We are in agreement with
the staff presentation,

790
00:37:11,510 --> 00:37:13,830
and we are here to
request these ordinances.

791
00:37:13,830 --> 00:37:15,310
And the next one
that's coming up,

792
00:37:15,310 --> 00:37:18,290
I do have the owner
here to explain

793
00:37:18,290 --> 00:37:19,870
what they would like to do.

794
00:37:19,870 --> 00:37:23,630
It is some light retail and
some recreational, commercial,

795
00:37:23,630 --> 00:37:25,310
and some industrial uses.

796
00:37:25,310 --> 00:37:27,570
And we also have our
engineer here if there's

797
00:37:27,570 --> 00:37:29,490
any technical questions.

798
00:37:29,490 --> 00:37:31,710
Yeah, I just want to
hear just the overview.

799
00:37:31,710 --> 00:37:34,530
Yeah just the
overview on overview

800
00:37:34,530 --> 00:37:36,950
of a couple of
minutes worth tell me,

801
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:40,690
tell me what it's all about.

802
00:37:40,690 --> 00:37:44,890
Hi, I'm Scott Brock, resident of
Lake County for about 36 years

803
00:37:44,890 --> 00:37:45,650
now.

804
00:37:45,650 --> 00:37:50,470
We believe I believe I've had
this property since 20 sorry,

805
00:37:50,470 --> 00:37:54,470
2000, in 2001, and
we've been using it

806
00:37:54,470 --> 00:37:58,510
for light industrial sort
of refurbishing equipment,

807
00:37:58,510 --> 00:38:03,710
machinery, as well as having
a little bit of manufacturing

808
00:38:03,710 --> 00:38:04,890
with my product as well.

809
00:38:04,890 --> 00:38:08,710
Accu cut for flooring,
cutting and rolling machines.

810
00:38:08,710 --> 00:38:11,790
And now seeing the
growth and seeing what's

811
00:38:11,790 --> 00:38:13,590
happening in this
area, we're getting

812
00:38:13,590 --> 00:38:17,870
a lot of requests for
warehouse space, some

813
00:38:17,870 --> 00:38:19,830
light industrial manufacturing.

814
00:38:19,830 --> 00:38:21,230
And I've also had
some experience

815
00:38:21,230 --> 00:38:23,350
where I built some
strip plazas before

816
00:38:23,350 --> 00:38:25,470
in the minneola Clermont area.

817
00:38:25,470 --> 00:38:29,710
So I kind of wanted to tie
that theme in the front highway

818
00:38:29,710 --> 00:38:32,350
frontage as well.

819
00:38:32,350 --> 00:38:34,790
OK council, do you
have any questions.

820
00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:35,730
Light commercial.

821
00:38:35,730 --> 00:38:39,770
Do you expect or
hope to be in there.

822
00:38:39,770 --> 00:38:42,350


823
00:38:42,350 --> 00:38:46,490
What particular light commercial
are you hoping to attract there.

824
00:38:46,490 --> 00:38:49,310
Yeah, I mean, I think the
days are gone where you have

825
00:38:49,310 --> 00:38:51,010
a lighting store and
these kind of things where

826
00:38:51,010 --> 00:38:52,550
everybody's buying online now.

827
00:38:52,550 --> 00:38:54,730
So it could be a lot
of specialty, maybe air

828
00:38:54,730 --> 00:38:57,650
conditioning, contract
type of businesses

829
00:38:57,650 --> 00:39:01,710
and professional offices, maybe
some medical, dental office,

830
00:39:01,710 --> 00:39:04,290
this type of thing.

831
00:39:04,290 --> 00:39:08,330
As far as the pickleball, we
had talked about maybe the theme

832
00:39:08,330 --> 00:39:11,810
of having a brewery microbrewery
in there as well as pickleball.

833
00:39:11,810 --> 00:39:17,210
I know there's other cities that
have done this quite successful.

834
00:39:17,210 --> 00:39:17,710
All right.

835
00:39:17,710 --> 00:39:20,210
Perfect Anyone else.

836
00:39:20,210 --> 00:39:21,950
Well, good luck
with your project.

837
00:39:21,950 --> 00:39:22,530
Thank you.

838
00:39:22,530 --> 00:39:23,030
Appreciate it.

839
00:39:23,030 --> 00:39:25,410
Council how would
you like to move.

840
00:39:25,410 --> 00:39:29,210
Move to accept the
ordinance as is.

841
00:39:29,210 --> 00:39:30,210
I'll second it.

842
00:39:30,210 --> 00:39:30,970
We have motion.

843
00:39:30,970 --> 00:39:31,470
And a second.

844
00:39:31,470 --> 00:39:32,930
Any more discussion.

845
00:39:32,930 --> 00:39:34,110
All those in favor.

846
00:39:34,110 --> 00:39:35,410
Raise a hand.

847
00:39:35,410 --> 00:39:37,230
Motion passes 5 to 0.

848
00:39:37,230 --> 00:39:43,610
Congratulations all
right, moving on to.

849
00:39:43,610 --> 00:39:44,910
This is the companion.

850
00:39:44,910 --> 00:39:47,920
Yep tab 10.

851
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,840
Exactly like the city
administrator pointed out

852
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,020
is the companion
ordinance to this item.

853
00:39:55,020 --> 00:39:57,840
It is changing the comprehensive
plan future land use

854
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:02,800
map from future land
use designation County

855
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,040
to the city's industrial.

856
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,720
There isn't really
much to that other

857
00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:10,480
than we have to do
this because the state

858
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,920
requires comprehensive
planning and we

859
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,800
have to change these things.

860
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,920
I think that's probably enough.

861
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:19,420
All right.

862
00:40:19,420 --> 00:40:19,920
Thank you.

863
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,680
Council, how would
you like to move.

864
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,720
I'll make a motion to
approve the ordinance.

865
00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:27,520
Second Motion, a
second discussion.

866
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,280
All those in favor,
raise your hand.

867
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,200
Motion passes 5 to 0.

868
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,840
Moving on to tab 11.

869
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,400
Ordinance 2020 606
fisherman's Cove.

870
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,000
Yes the next item
is Fisherman's Cove.

871
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,560
This is the
fisherman's Cove that's

872
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,820
out there in the RV center.

873
00:40:46,820 --> 00:40:50,100
There's different uses in there,
but in summary, the subject

874
00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:55,340
property is currently operating
as a recreational vehicle

875
00:40:55,340 --> 00:41:02,140
resort, with some supporting
recreational facilities, marinas

876
00:41:02,140 --> 00:41:04,380
and the dry bulk facility.

877
00:41:04,380 --> 00:41:10,100
The proposed development plan
allows for continued operation

878
00:41:10,100 --> 00:41:14,100
of the existing resort and
authorizes additional resort

879
00:41:14,100 --> 00:41:19,260
related amenities, including
expansion of the dry boat

880
00:41:19,260 --> 00:41:23,460
facility, storage facility,
construction of the resort

881
00:41:23,460 --> 00:41:27,720
cottages for short term
rental accommodation,

882
00:41:27,720 --> 00:41:30,860
expansion of
recreational facilities

883
00:41:30,860 --> 00:41:35,700
and additional RV accommodation.

884
00:41:35,700 --> 00:41:38,300
This is what you
see on the screen

885
00:41:38,300 --> 00:41:40,080
is the proposed development.

886
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:44,060
The ones that have color
area around the front, that's

887
00:41:44,060 --> 00:41:47,360
where they're proposing the
change, which is the expansion

888
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,040
of along State Road
19 as the dry dock

889
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,160
facility and some
cottages internal

890
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,220
and of course, the former
golf course that they have,

891
00:41:57,220 --> 00:41:59,480
they want to expand
it into the RV use

892
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,160
as well with some cottages.

893
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:03,300
Next slide, please.

894
00:42:03,300 --> 00:42:09,040
This is the sample of the
cottages and they're pre prefab

895
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,920
and there's just
very little there.

896
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,500
It's just not there.

897
00:42:13,500 --> 00:42:18,320
They're there for the recreation
of the intent of the short term

898
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,040
resort accommodations.

899
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,100
The PD OK.

900
00:42:23,100 --> 00:42:25,440
And then this one,
that's the one that's

901
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:26,620
along the frontage right now.

902
00:42:26,620 --> 00:42:27,560
State route 19.

903
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:28,960
A lot of people go by there.

904
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,160
They want to expand that.

905
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,760
The last PD that was
done prior to this

906
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,240
wouldn't allow them to do it.

907
00:42:37,240 --> 00:42:41,240
So we had to combine
this PD and the other PD

908
00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:44,730
and make sure that everything
is functioning accordingly.

909
00:42:44,730 --> 00:42:51,070


910
00:42:51,070 --> 00:42:55,430
On July 16, 2026, the
planning and zoning board

911
00:42:55,430 --> 00:42:58,350
met and voted to
recommend approval

912
00:42:58,350 --> 00:43:02,670
of the ordinance
2020 606 as presented

913
00:43:02,670 --> 00:43:05,190
during the public hearing.

914
00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:08,270
Neighboring property
owners and representatives

915
00:43:08,270 --> 00:43:11,750
expressed concerns
regarding setbacks

916
00:43:11,750 --> 00:43:15,290
and buffers issues,
open space, stormwater,

917
00:43:15,290 --> 00:43:17,550
and utility infrastructure.

918
00:43:17,550 --> 00:43:21,030
These issues were
discussed and addressed

919
00:43:21,030 --> 00:43:23,050
during the public meeting.

920
00:43:23,050 --> 00:43:25,690
I have attached
the draft minutes.

921
00:43:25,690 --> 00:43:27,190
You can go over that
a little bit more

922
00:43:27,190 --> 00:43:29,750
in details in your packet.

923
00:43:29,750 --> 00:43:33,750
In addition, the applicant
agreed to meet with city staff

924
00:43:33,750 --> 00:43:36,750
to review and confirm
the compliance with all

925
00:43:36,750 --> 00:43:40,230
the applicable setbacks and
landscape buffer requirements

926
00:43:40,230 --> 00:43:43,130
associated with the
proposed future development

927
00:43:43,130 --> 00:43:48,290
as depicted in the
master development plan.

928
00:43:48,290 --> 00:43:51,810
Because most of the questions
were related to that issue, what

929
00:43:51,810 --> 00:43:54,490
is the buffer between
the future development

930
00:43:54,490 --> 00:43:58,610
plan before the future
development and this.

931
00:43:58,610 --> 00:44:03,330
The PD already established that
we were going to the buffer

932
00:44:03,330 --> 00:44:05,770
requirements on the land
development regulation

933
00:44:05,770 --> 00:44:10,090
when it comes to site
planning, and we reviewed it.

934
00:44:10,090 --> 00:44:14,990
The applicant came to the
staff again on July 31, 2026,

935
00:44:14,990 --> 00:44:16,810
and we met and they
acknowledged that they're

936
00:44:16,810 --> 00:44:20,450
going to meet the landscape
buffers are there,

937
00:44:20,450 --> 00:44:23,350
codified in the land
development regulations,

938
00:44:23,350 --> 00:44:25,250
because there was a
question at the meeting

939
00:44:25,250 --> 00:44:30,630
that may have vested rights
for smaller landscape buffers.

940
00:44:30,630 --> 00:44:33,690
But we looked at it,
we looked at it twice.

941
00:44:33,690 --> 00:44:36,890
And the landscape
buffers, as I described

942
00:44:36,890 --> 00:44:43,150
on our recommendation part,
is what he's required to do.

943
00:44:43,150 --> 00:44:46,350
Staff therefore, staff
recommends that the city council

944
00:44:46,350 --> 00:44:51,390
approve the ordinance
2020 606 amending

945
00:44:51,390 --> 00:44:54,550
and adopting the proposed
master development plan

946
00:44:54,550 --> 00:44:56,830
as presented tonight.

947
00:44:56,830 --> 00:44:59,190
We also.

948
00:44:59,190 --> 00:45:01,430
The ordinance was,
of course, reviewed

949
00:45:01,430 --> 00:45:03,410
by the city attorney's office.

950
00:45:03,410 --> 00:45:05,470
It was included in your packet.

951
00:45:05,470 --> 00:45:10,230
I also noteworthy
attachments you have 10

952
00:45:10,230 --> 00:45:13,870
was the environmental
report, the traffic study.

953
00:45:13,870 --> 00:45:18,710
And I also included the abutting
residential opposing letter.

954
00:45:18,710 --> 00:45:20,870
And for your
information, I added

955
00:45:20,870 --> 00:45:24,790
the old ordinances
that are being replaced

956
00:45:24,790 --> 00:45:27,710
just for your edification.

957
00:45:27,710 --> 00:45:31,890
We also have the applicant
available on the audience.

958
00:45:31,890 --> 00:45:36,190
If you want to elaborate
on any of his proposal,

959
00:45:36,190 --> 00:45:41,780
and I'll be happy to answer any
questions in the review process.

960
00:45:41,780 --> 00:45:42,360
Thank you.

961
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,780
Council any questions.

962
00:45:44,780 --> 00:45:48,360
So this is not expanding
the land area at all.

963
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,040
They're all within current
land that they own.

964
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:57,380
Correct And of course
replacing a golf course

965
00:45:57,380 --> 00:45:59,560
probably makes no
money with RV sites.

966
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,260
Make money will improve the
commercial value and therefore

967
00:46:02,260 --> 00:46:04,620
the taxable value
of that property.

968
00:46:04,620 --> 00:46:06,880
Correct I would assume so.

969
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,640
And it's not
functioning right now.

970
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,060
So it'd be better than nothing.

971
00:46:12,060 --> 00:46:12,680
All right.

972
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,020
It's a very nice resort.

973
00:46:15,020 --> 00:46:17,380
It's not by my area over there.

974
00:46:17,380 --> 00:46:21,180
I go by it all the time.

975
00:46:21,180 --> 00:46:22,120
Any more questions.

976
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,580
How would you like to move.

977
00:46:24,580 --> 00:46:27,080
I'll move to approve
the ordinance.

978
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,020
2020 6-6, fisherman's Cove.

979
00:46:29,020 --> 00:46:31,600
Second Motion and a second.

980
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:32,980
Any more discussion.

981
00:46:32,980 --> 00:46:35,020
All those in favor,
raise a hand.

982
00:46:35,020 --> 00:46:36,740
Motion passes 5 to 0.

983
00:46:36,740 --> 00:46:38,480
Thank you.

984
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:38,980
All right.

985
00:46:38,980 --> 00:46:41,220
We're going to
move on to tab 12.

986
00:46:41,220 --> 00:46:43,160
Discussion and
direction regarding

987
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,560
the preferred approach
for addressing data

988
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,260
center development.

989
00:46:47,260 --> 00:46:49,640
I guess that's
still you, Antonio.

990
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,080
That is still me.

991
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:51,580
Thank you.

992
00:46:51,580 --> 00:46:53,980
Mayor this item.

993
00:46:53,980 --> 00:46:57,720
I did put a little information
about the data centers

994
00:46:57,720 --> 00:47:00,640
and how they're being treated,
and how they're currently being

995
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,560
approached by Lake County.

996
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,640
So it is for city
council to discuss.

997
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,660
However, I'll read this first
part of the staff report,

998
00:47:10,660 --> 00:47:16,000
I think is so it's
noteworthy as an interest

999
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,120
in data center development
and continues to increase.

1000
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,840
Staff is seeking
policy direction

1001
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,880
from city council
regarding how the city

1002
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,560
should address
future applications

1003
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,680
for these types of facility.

1004
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,560
While data center can
provide economic development

1005
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,740
and support critical
digital infrastructure.

1006
00:47:35,740 --> 00:47:40,860
They may also present unique
land land use consideration

1007
00:47:40,860 --> 00:47:45,660
related to building scale,
utility demand, backup power

1008
00:47:45,660 --> 00:47:49,420
generator, noise
aesthetics, compatibility

1009
00:47:49,420 --> 00:47:52,700
with the surrounding
development.

1010
00:47:52,700 --> 00:47:55,340
As a general thing
on data center

1011
00:47:55,340 --> 00:47:58,040
that people watch this
in the news all the time.

1012
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:02,900
But on June 23, 2026,
the Lake County board

1013
00:48:02,900 --> 00:48:07,060
of County Commissioners
discussed a temporary moratorium

1014
00:48:07,060 --> 00:48:11,300
on data centers facilities
within the unincorporated areas

1015
00:48:11,300 --> 00:48:12,500
of Lake County.

1016
00:48:12,500 --> 00:48:15,060
After discussing, the
board collectively

1017
00:48:15,060 --> 00:48:19,660
agreed to have the Lake
County attorney bring

1018
00:48:19,660 --> 00:48:23,300
back a proposed moratorium.

1019
00:48:23,300 --> 00:48:29,300
Ordinance on August 5, 2026.

1020
00:48:29,300 --> 00:48:31,380
The Lake County
planning and zoning

1021
00:48:31,380 --> 00:48:34,450
board were presented
the ordinance

1022
00:48:34,450 --> 00:48:36,410
that I just talked about.

1023
00:48:36,410 --> 00:48:38,690
So they did draft an
ordinance, and it was presented

1024
00:48:38,690 --> 00:48:42,530
to the planning and zoning
board on August 5, 2026

1025
00:48:42,530 --> 00:48:48,210
for a temporary moratorium,
a one year moratorium.

1026
00:48:48,210 --> 00:48:51,250
The proposed moratorium
was approved by Lake County

1027
00:48:51,250 --> 00:48:53,170
planning and zoning board.

1028
00:48:53,170 --> 00:48:57,010
The moratorium is going
to go next to back

1029
00:48:57,010 --> 00:49:01,810
to BCC on September 1, 2026.

1030
00:49:01,810 --> 00:49:04,850
At this time, the
city does not have

1031
00:49:04,850 --> 00:49:07,810
any land development
regulations specifically

1032
00:49:07,810 --> 00:49:09,610
addressing data centers.

1033
00:49:09,610 --> 00:49:12,770
As a result, staff requests
that the city council

1034
00:49:12,770 --> 00:49:17,250
discuss the appropriate
regulations or approach,

1035
00:49:17,250 --> 00:49:20,610
and provide directions
on whether the amendments

1036
00:49:20,610 --> 00:49:24,050
to the land development
regulations should be pursued.

1037
00:49:24,050 --> 00:49:26,630
I have incorporated
some options.

1038
00:49:26,630 --> 00:49:31,510
There are two potential options
to talk about talking points.

1039
00:49:31,510 --> 00:49:35,550
This one is adopting a temporary
moratorium on new data centers

1040
00:49:35,550 --> 00:49:37,870
applications by
the city evaluates

1041
00:49:37,870 --> 00:49:39,730
the appropriate regulations.

1042
00:49:39,730 --> 00:49:40,410
That's number one.

1043
00:49:40,410 --> 00:49:44,070
Number 2 is directing
staff to prepare amendments

1044
00:49:44,070 --> 00:49:46,590
to the land development
regulations, regulations

1045
00:49:46,590 --> 00:49:49,750
establishing objective
development standards

1046
00:49:49,750 --> 00:49:52,430
and for the data centers.

1047
00:49:52,430 --> 00:49:57,150
And the third one is maintaining
the existing regulations

1048
00:49:57,150 --> 00:50:01,070
and evaluating future proposals
on a case by case basis

1049
00:50:01,070 --> 00:50:04,950
through the city's
current development

1050
00:50:04,950 --> 00:50:08,810
review process right now.

1051
00:50:08,810 --> 00:50:14,470
I will open it back to city
council for discussion.

1052
00:50:14,470 --> 00:50:15,990
All right.

1053
00:50:15,990 --> 00:50:18,630
I have a question
in our city attorney

1054
00:50:18,630 --> 00:50:20,870
do the same thing that
the County did as far

1055
00:50:20,870 --> 00:50:22,450
as this temporary moratorium.

1056
00:50:22,450 --> 00:50:24,050
Bring it back to
us in ordinance.

1057
00:50:24,050 --> 00:50:27,590
Absolutely can we have
a permanent moratorium?

1058
00:50:27,590 --> 00:50:28,930
No, no, no.

1059
00:50:28,930 --> 00:50:30,450
How about three years.

1060
00:50:30,450 --> 00:50:35,050
Yeah One thing that we did go
when we were at the Florida

1061
00:50:35,050 --> 00:50:38,150
league of cities is they did a
presentation on data centers,

1062
00:50:38,150 --> 00:50:40,350
and there was a lot of
misinformation out there.

1063
00:50:40,350 --> 00:50:42,170
I think there were things
that people have heard

1064
00:50:42,170 --> 00:50:43,850
that are absolutely not true.

1065
00:50:43,850 --> 00:50:47,650
But I think what we need to do
is pretty much do the one year

1066
00:50:47,650 --> 00:50:50,450
kind of what Lake County did
to give us the opportunity

1067
00:50:50,450 --> 00:50:53,943
to investigate more because
again, what we were told

1068
00:50:53,943 --> 00:50:55,910
and what we had heard were
completely two different things.

1069
00:50:55,910 --> 00:50:58,490
And so I think to make sure that
we're fully aware of what we're

1070
00:50:58,490 --> 00:51:00,010
dealing with, we
need to do the one

1071
00:51:00,010 --> 00:51:02,610
year moratorium to
give time for the city

1072
00:51:02,610 --> 00:51:05,050
to look at these things.

1073
00:51:05,050 --> 00:51:09,210
Well, as Doug was saying,
a lot of misinformation

1074
00:51:09,210 --> 00:51:12,850
floating around about
data centers out there.

1075
00:51:12,850 --> 00:51:16,770
First off, they have what are
known as edge data centers,

1076
00:51:16,770 --> 00:51:20,930
which are only 1,000
to 10,000ft building

1077
00:51:20,930 --> 00:51:23,410
on a tenth to one acre in land.

1078
00:51:23,410 --> 00:51:26,510
They have enterprise
corporate data centers,

1079
00:51:26,510 --> 00:51:31,280
which are 10,000 to 50,000ft
only need one to five acres.

1080
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:35,080
They have locations that
have a different size go up

1081
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:36,360
to 40 acres.

1082
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:41,000
Once you start getting to cloud,
regional or hyperscale, which

1083
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,520
can take over 100
acres, I don't think

1084
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:48,840
that we have any land inside
the city limits of Tavares

1085
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,520
that would accommodate a
building these big anyhow.

1086
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,160
So another misconception
was that it was going

1087
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:56,960
to hurt our electrical power.

1088
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,340
But as it turns out, people
from Florida Power were there,

1089
00:52:00,340 --> 00:52:02,280
and they said that any
data center has to provide

1090
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:03,840
their own electrical
infrastructure

1091
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,720
and they have to pay
for it themselves,

1092
00:52:05,720 --> 00:52:07,660
and it's added to
what's already there.

1093
00:52:07,660 --> 00:52:10,560
So it doesn't take away
any capacity in the city.

1094
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:14,580
And as far as the water goes,
it's not constantly using water.

1095
00:52:14,580 --> 00:52:16,940
They fill up their
system one time.

1096
00:52:16,940 --> 00:52:20,220
It's a closed system and it
recycles that whole time.

1097
00:52:20,220 --> 00:52:21,780
So they only put
water in it one time.

1098
00:52:21,780 --> 00:52:24,560
It's not constant
sources of water.

1099
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:28,400
So being that there's all
different sizes and scales,

1100
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,700
we do want some commercial
or industrial type.

1101
00:52:32,700 --> 00:52:34,780
Business here in Tavares.

1102
00:52:34,780 --> 00:52:36,660
I don't think we need
to just absolutely

1103
00:52:36,660 --> 00:52:38,160
slap a moratorium on there.

1104
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,020
I think that would
be more appropriate

1105
00:52:40,020 --> 00:52:43,620
would be option number three,
maintaining the existing

1106
00:52:43,620 --> 00:52:46,220
regulations and evaluating
future proposals on a case

1107
00:52:46,220 --> 00:52:48,920
by case basis, I think would
be much more appropriate.

1108
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,660
Because we don't want to turn
away a 10,000 square foot

1109
00:52:52,660 --> 00:52:54,140
small data center
that might could

1110
00:52:54,140 --> 00:52:55,520
bring some jobs to the city.

1111
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,420
I don't think we should do that.

1112
00:52:58,420 --> 00:53:00,640
Just one point on your
closed water thing.

1113
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:04,180
There's no such thing as you
fill it up once, and it's done.

1114
00:53:04,180 --> 00:53:07,820
No, take it from somebody
who's dealt with closed

1115
00:53:07,820 --> 00:53:09,700
water systems his whole life.

1116
00:53:09,700 --> 00:53:11,360
Somewhere there
will be a breakage,

1117
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,340
somewhere there'll
be something that

1118
00:53:13,340 --> 00:53:16,080
will happen where that will end
up having to be refilled again.

1119
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,180
There'll always be
something that it's

1120
00:53:18,180 --> 00:53:20,520
not going to be one time
something's going to happen.

1121
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,640
And you will end up
having repair of that.

1122
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,960
Fill up the water again
and it could happen a lot.

1123
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,460
I've dealt with cold
water boilers, cold water,

1124
00:53:28,460 --> 00:53:30,000
chiller systems, cold water.

1125
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,420
And there's always repairs,
there's always refilling.

1126
00:53:32,420 --> 00:53:36,160
There's always something
that has to be done.

1127
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,440
So I just wanted to get
that point out there.

1128
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,760
So that is not a miss.

1129
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:46,000
I don't misnomer or something
that has to go off the table as

1130
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,320
far as it's a one time thing.

1131
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:49,820
No, I still want a moratorium.

1132
00:53:49,820 --> 00:53:53,260
I can get a moratorium
for the next four years.

1133
00:53:53,260 --> 00:53:56,400
That would be great.

1134
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,160
I can't see us going.

1135
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:03,000
No I think what we do if we do a
moratorium is we do it to allow

1136
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,680
our staff to be able to
come back and develop

1137
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,320
some regulations and
things of that nature that

1138
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,340
will go over for this.

1139
00:54:11,340 --> 00:54:16,420
Yeah I'm just being I'm
just being the one year.

1140
00:54:16,420 --> 00:54:18,640
Yeah I'm just being like.

1141
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,950
And the thing is, by us saying
one year doesn't mean that we

1142
00:54:21,950 --> 00:54:23,210
have to go the full year.

1143
00:54:23,210 --> 00:54:27,430
We could actually cancel it
at any time once the staff.

1144
00:54:27,430 --> 00:54:29,470
But this way it doesn't put
all the burden right now

1145
00:54:29,470 --> 00:54:31,230
on our staff to try to
come up with something

1146
00:54:31,230 --> 00:54:35,350
within two weeks or three weeks
and allows them to research it.

1147
00:54:35,350 --> 00:54:37,830
And, Mr. Price, I
appreciate the information

1148
00:54:37,830 --> 00:54:41,190
you brought, because that way
they would be able to have

1149
00:54:41,190 --> 00:54:43,190
more understanding as well.

1150
00:54:43,190 --> 00:54:44,410
That's what's out there.

1151
00:54:44,410 --> 00:54:48,850
But I would be in favor of a
moratorium, maybe not a year,

1152
00:54:48,850 --> 00:54:52,510
maybe six months, but at
least give our staff the time

1153
00:54:52,510 --> 00:54:57,030
and opportunity to be
able to do the homework

1154
00:54:57,030 --> 00:54:58,490
and bring back something to us.

1155
00:54:58,490 --> 00:55:00,270
And how long would it take us.

1156
00:55:00,270 --> 00:55:01,950
We could get it
done in six months.

1157
00:55:01,950 --> 00:55:03,690
But what I'm talking
about to get it approved,

1158
00:55:03,690 --> 00:55:06,310
though once they
bring it back to us,

1159
00:55:06,310 --> 00:55:07,690
it depends what
you decide to do.

1160
00:55:07,690 --> 00:55:11,890
If you decide to do it on a case
by case basis is council member,

1161
00:55:11,890 --> 00:55:13,270
price said, then you're done.

1162
00:55:13,270 --> 00:55:16,190
If you decide you want
an ordinance to advertise

1163
00:55:16,190 --> 00:55:20,470
and that takes about
maybe 3060 days.

1164
00:55:20,470 --> 00:55:21,770
Got to go to p and z.

1165
00:55:21,770 --> 00:55:22,670
They got to review it.

1166
00:55:22,670 --> 00:55:23,510
They have to approve it.

1167
00:55:23,510 --> 00:55:25,250
That's another 3060 days.

1168
00:55:25,250 --> 00:55:28,810
So you're probably talking.

1169
00:55:28,810 --> 00:55:31,650
1234, 5, six months
from the time

1170
00:55:31,650 --> 00:55:37,530
you say, we want to do this,
to get through the planning

1171
00:55:37,530 --> 00:55:41,770
and zoning board advertising
twice back to the city council

1172
00:55:41,770 --> 00:55:43,503
to amend your codes.

1173
00:55:43,503 --> 00:55:44,970
I mean, what all you're
probably going to do

1174
00:55:44,970 --> 00:55:51,450
is amend the codes for these
particular types of facilities.

1175
00:55:51,450 --> 00:55:54,890
I'd hate to see us pass up
an opportunity to not allow

1176
00:55:54,890 --> 00:55:58,850
a 10,000 square foot building
in an industrial park to not

1177
00:55:58,850 --> 00:56:03,490
come in here, because of all the
myths surrounding these places.

1178
00:56:03,490 --> 00:56:08,250
I just don't think we should
limit ourselves like that.

1179
00:56:08,250 --> 00:56:13,490
And I think that I don't really
know enough about data centers

1180
00:56:13,490 --> 00:56:15,490
and don't care to.

1181
00:56:15,490 --> 00:56:19,090
That's not the direction
I want our city to go.

1182
00:56:19,090 --> 00:56:22,110
And I think we're so
limited on property.

1183
00:56:22,110 --> 00:56:25,150
We're so limited on what
we can do commercially

1184
00:56:25,150 --> 00:56:27,730
or I know we have
industrial parks.

1185
00:56:27,730 --> 00:56:30,450
I don't even know how much
property is left in those.

1186
00:56:30,450 --> 00:56:32,150
I certainly don't
want them to start

1187
00:56:32,150 --> 00:56:36,590
encroaching on up
to Highway frontage

1188
00:56:36,590 --> 00:56:38,250
with these industrial parks.

1189
00:56:38,250 --> 00:56:40,850
And if we added
we're losing out.

1190
00:56:40,850 --> 00:56:44,790
We are so limited to what
we can do commercially.

1191
00:56:44,790 --> 00:56:48,530
I would rather let data
centers go to the other cities.

1192
00:56:48,530 --> 00:56:52,110
Let us keep our acquaintance,
acquaintance that we have

1193
00:56:52,110 --> 00:56:56,350
and keep going in the
direction that we're going.

1194
00:56:56,350 --> 00:56:58,430
I mean, how many
other cities have

1195
00:56:58,430 --> 00:57:00,090
a Publix on a two lane road.

1196
00:57:00,090 --> 00:57:01,730
I really haven't been to one.

1197
00:57:01,730 --> 00:57:04,530
I feel like we're really
fortunate to have.

1198
00:57:04,530 --> 00:57:09,110
I want to keep growing things
that are good for our residents

1199
00:57:09,110 --> 00:57:10,230
that we have.

1200
00:57:10,230 --> 00:57:13,470
I don't really I don't
see a data center

1201
00:57:13,470 --> 00:57:17,900
as something that would
enhance the quality of life

1202
00:57:17,900 --> 00:57:19,160
in the city of Tavares.

1203
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,620
To be honest with you, I see
visually encroaching on up

1204
00:57:22,620 --> 00:57:28,640
into our commercial space and
I just think we can do better.

1205
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,460
And I know the data center will
bring in all these tax dollars

1206
00:57:31,460 --> 00:57:33,520
and they're not going
to use any water in.

1207
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,220
They're not going to do
anything to our electric

1208
00:57:36,220 --> 00:57:37,640
and it'll be jobs.

1209
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:42,300
But, if you go different
places that I've traveled

1210
00:57:42,300 --> 00:57:45,700
and watch things
change like up in,

1211
00:57:45,700 --> 00:57:47,900
up in let's say Georgia
up there and they

1212
00:57:47,900 --> 00:57:50,720
started with one rug place.

1213
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,160
And then next thing when
you're driving up there,

1214
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:54,400
it's absolutely beautiful.

1215
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,100
And then all of a sudden, you
have all these buildings just

1216
00:57:57,100 --> 00:57:59,060
building after
building, after building

1217
00:57:59,060 --> 00:58:03,320
these huge, huge buildings
and that's all they have.

1218
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:04,760
That's what their town is now.

1219
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,380
They have nothing left.

1220
00:58:06,380 --> 00:58:08,340
If you go up there
in those areas,

1221
00:58:08,340 --> 00:58:12,400
there's just nothing left for
quality of life initiatives,

1222
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,600
quality of life
businesses that can

1223
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:18,600
still come into the community
and make a good living.

1224
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,140
I mean, that's really
what I'm looking for.

1225
00:58:21,140 --> 00:58:25,100
I don't want to be a
city of industrial parks.

1226
00:58:25,100 --> 00:58:27,960
I'd rather keep going in the
direction that we're going.

1227
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:29,560
Well, I'm saying not.

1228
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,200
We have existing
industrial parks,

1229
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,520
existing land now
that could accommodate

1230
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,060
one of these smaller things.

1231
00:58:36,060 --> 00:58:37,640
And these are high
paying, high tech

1232
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,440
jobs that you come to our area.

1233
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,160
And I just don't think we
should hamper ourselves.

1234
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:44,540
If you want to
put a limit, fine.

1235
00:58:44,540 --> 00:58:48,120
I mean, we limited the
amount of those gaming places

1236
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:49,180
that could be to various.

1237
00:58:49,180 --> 00:58:51,060
We had an ordinance that
limited the number of those.

1238
00:58:51,060 --> 00:58:52,960
I mean, you could always
limit it if you wanted to

1239
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:54,800
at some point,
but I really don't

1240
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:58,600
think we're going to be the
hotbed for data centers anyhow.

1241
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,180
They're out there looking
for 2000 5,000 acres.

1242
00:59:01,180 --> 00:59:03,260
They're not looking for
one acre and Tavari.

1243
00:59:03,260 --> 00:59:05,040
I don't really I
think it's all really

1244
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:08,880
going to be kind of a moot
point, which is why I'm just

1245
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:10,140
soon leave everything alone.

1246
00:59:10,140 --> 00:59:12,740
And if something comes up and we
can address it when it comes up.

1247
00:59:12,740 --> 00:59:15,040
I don't think we're going to
have much of a problem with it.

1248
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:16,660
Well, I mean, one
thing I would say

1249
00:59:16,660 --> 00:59:21,240
is that if this is off
subject but not off subject,

1250
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,980
if we lose on Amendment three
and we lose on property taxes

1251
00:59:24,980 --> 00:59:26,793
coming in, we need to make up.

1252
00:59:26,793 --> 00:59:28,160
If we're going to need
to make a revenue.

1253
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,000
Revenue is going to come from
businesses and places like that.

1254
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,780
So I think limiting our I
agree with Council price

1255
00:59:33,780 --> 00:59:37,020
that limiting us from
being absolutely out of it

1256
00:59:37,020 --> 00:59:38,240
is not a great idea.

1257
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,780
I support the
moratorium to make sure

1258
00:59:40,780 --> 00:59:42,700
that we do a thorough study.

1259
00:59:42,700 --> 00:59:45,740
But I don't think we
should just say no.

1260
00:59:45,740 --> 00:59:49,280
And I really don't even care
about having a moratorium,

1261
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:50,500
to honest with you.

1262
00:59:50,500 --> 00:59:53,960
If we're going to leave it open,
then let's just leave it open.

1263
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,600
And whoever suggested
case by case,

1264
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,600
I mean council member
price just a bit.

1265
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:01,420
I think that's a great idea.

1266
01:00:01,420 --> 01:00:03,400
I mean, I'm not so close minded.

1267
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,720
That's not the direction
I saw the city going.

1268
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,340
But as long as we keep
control, if it's just

1269
01:00:08,340 --> 01:00:11,370
not a runaway train,
just dropping buildings

1270
01:00:11,370 --> 01:00:13,010
everywhere within our city.

1271
01:00:13,010 --> 01:00:16,050
I just that that's
not what Tavares is.

1272
01:00:16,050 --> 01:00:16,830
I agree with you.

1273
01:00:16,830 --> 01:00:20,970
So I personally
would just say, let's

1274
01:00:20,970 --> 01:00:25,370
not waste any more time on this,
but that would be option three.

1275
01:00:25,370 --> 01:00:28,410
Yeah well, and
I'm going to ask I

1276
01:00:28,410 --> 01:00:31,230
know that no one
has turned anything,

1277
01:00:31,230 --> 01:00:32,570
but is there anyone
in the audience

1278
01:00:32,570 --> 01:00:38,090
that would like to speak
Mr. Santoro, come on up.

1279
01:00:38,090 --> 01:00:42,190
In my peripheral vision, I could
see you flailing back there,

1280
01:00:42,190 --> 01:00:43,670
so I thought, I better get.

1281
01:00:43,670 --> 01:00:45,230
Mayor members of
council, Mr. Drury,

1282
01:00:45,230 --> 01:00:49,350
city staff MS Holt, Gary's into
our royal harbor every weekend.

1283
01:00:49,350 --> 01:00:51,770
As part of my routine,
I go by a certain.

1284
01:00:51,770 --> 01:00:52,950
I drive-through the city.

1285
01:00:52,950 --> 01:00:56,130
There's one section
of town that continues

1286
01:00:56,130 --> 01:00:57,310
that I continue to watch.

1287
01:00:57,310 --> 01:01:00,210
A for sale sign goes up
and it comes back down.

1288
01:01:00,210 --> 01:01:05,770
It's a large, wide open section
off of 448 near Shirley shores.

1289
01:01:05,770 --> 01:01:08,590
A structure like this would
fit perfectly out there,

1290
01:01:08,590 --> 01:01:11,270
and it's adjacent to
that waterway lake

1291
01:01:11,270 --> 01:01:12,370
that's sitting out there.

1292
01:01:12,370 --> 01:01:17,050
So I. I don't know
when Phil was here,

1293
01:01:17,050 --> 01:01:19,770
a developer talked to him about
water and stuff like that.

1294
01:01:19,770 --> 01:01:20,930
And then they backed out.

1295
01:01:20,930 --> 01:01:25,670
So that's the one big,
large portion of property

1296
01:01:25,670 --> 01:01:28,670
that you have left
that someone's

1297
01:01:28,670 --> 01:01:30,950
going to grab to do something.

1298
01:01:30,950 --> 01:01:32,950
And it's large.

1299
01:01:32,950 --> 01:01:33,830
Thank you, Mayor.

1300
01:01:33,830 --> 01:01:36,430
Thank you, Mr. Santoro.

1301
01:01:36,430 --> 01:01:36,930
All right.

1302
01:01:36,930 --> 01:01:39,930
So any more discussion
or do we have a motion.

1303
01:01:39,930 --> 01:01:43,910
Well, do we want to put a limit,
as Mr. Price may be stipulated?

1304
01:01:43,910 --> 01:01:46,830
as far as how many
of those we allow.

1305
01:01:46,830 --> 01:01:49,230
No someone may come in,
and there's a perfect piece

1306
01:01:49,230 --> 01:01:50,950
of property on the
outside of town

1307
01:01:50,950 --> 01:01:55,310
that could bring in thousands,
hundreds of thousands of dollars

1308
01:01:55,310 --> 01:01:56,690
to the city of Tavares.

1309
01:01:56,690 --> 01:01:59,130
I'm willing to
listen, but I don't.

1310
01:01:59,130 --> 01:02:01,770
What I'm saying is I don't
want to structure wise.

1311
01:02:01,770 --> 01:02:05,670
Are we talking about
one, 2, 3, 4, 10, 20.

1312
01:02:05,670 --> 01:02:08,130
Let them come in and
make us an offer.

1313
01:02:08,130 --> 01:02:11,450
Yeah I mean, why close
the door when someone

1314
01:02:11,450 --> 01:02:12,710
might bring the perfect.

1315
01:02:12,710 --> 01:02:13,930
That's just my thought.

1316
01:02:13,930 --> 01:02:15,350
Someone may bring something.

1317
01:02:15,350 --> 01:02:18,890
I don't want them here, but if
it's on the outskirts of town

1318
01:02:18,890 --> 01:02:24,170
that hardly anyone sees unless
they're actually driving to it.

1319
01:02:24,170 --> 01:02:28,370
As long as it's not taking up
anything more or less in town

1320
01:02:28,370 --> 01:02:30,570
where we want our
commercial frontage

1321
01:02:30,570 --> 01:02:34,650
to remain commercial frontage
with commercial buildings.

1322
01:02:34,650 --> 01:02:35,470
That's my thought.

1323
01:02:35,470 --> 01:02:37,530
I don't want to close
the door on anything that

1324
01:02:37,530 --> 01:02:40,810
could produce good
money for the city,

1325
01:02:40,810 --> 01:02:43,690
but it has to be done our way.

1326
01:02:43,690 --> 01:02:46,510
Well, I'll make a motion
that we approve option three.

1327
01:02:46,510 --> 01:02:49,290
I'll second that.

1328
01:02:49,290 --> 01:02:51,890
Option 3 is the case by case.

1329
01:02:51,890 --> 01:02:54,310
Yes, and I'll agree to that.

1330
01:02:54,310 --> 01:02:57,910
I just want to say again out
loud, this is not Tavari vision.

1331
01:02:57,910 --> 01:03:00,170
This is not Tavari.

1332
01:03:00,170 --> 01:03:02,050
This is not what we want here.

1333
01:03:02,050 --> 01:03:06,460
It's just not with
respect to Mr. Santoro,

1334
01:03:06,460 --> 01:03:07,880
who I have a great
respect for I don't

1335
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:11,160
want Shirley sauce, a gigantic
piece of a gigantic building

1336
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:11,860
on this land.

1337
01:03:11,860 --> 01:03:14,360
I just don't want it.

1338
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:15,700
It's just not our vision.

1339
01:03:15,700 --> 01:03:19,260
These data centers are not
our vision here in Tavares.

1340
01:03:19,260 --> 01:03:20,320
This is not.

1341
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:21,580
That's Anytown, USA.

1342
01:03:21,580 --> 01:03:22,700
Again, I use that a lot.

1343
01:03:22,700 --> 01:03:24,260
This is not the quaintness.

1344
01:03:24,260 --> 01:03:25,180
The small town charm.

1345
01:03:25,180 --> 01:03:28,040
It's growing unwisely.

1346
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:29,760
I do not like this at all.

1347
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:33,460
I will, I'm going to vote with
KDKA so that as they come,

1348
01:03:33,460 --> 01:03:35,000
we'll review them and
see what they want.

1349
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:36,400
That is what we've always done.

1350
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,380
So I'm going to
continue with that.

1351
01:03:38,380 --> 01:03:41,900
I just wanted to be out here
saying I don't like them.

1352
01:03:41,900 --> 01:03:45,280
That's not Tavares
American seaplanes vision

1353
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,040
to have these things boom.

1354
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:51,800
Even again, there might
be a industrial park

1355
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:53,920
that some of these buildings
aren't even being used

1356
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:55,720
and the place wants to
come in and get rid of them

1357
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:57,200
and they'll put the building.

1358
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,760
That's why I agreed
to this, because maybe

1359
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:01,760
if it's an already an
established industrial park

1360
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:03,020
that's just dying.

1361
01:04:03,020 --> 01:04:04,940
Let's fix it up
with one of these.

1362
01:04:04,940 --> 01:04:11,420
But I just want you to
know that, two, 3, 4.

1363
01:04:11,420 --> 01:04:13,200
Nah, it's just not happening.

1364
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:13,880
It's not our vision.

1365
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:15,160
That's not where we want to go.

1366
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:18,060
No, we could limit these
to industrial zoning only.

1367
01:04:18,060 --> 01:04:18,560
We don't.

1368
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:19,780
We just say they're not.

1369
01:04:19,780 --> 01:04:21,120
They're not allowed
in commercial.

1370
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:24,380
Absolutely that's why
we'll go case by case.

1371
01:04:24,380 --> 01:04:26,300
That's what we've always
done, that this council

1372
01:04:26,300 --> 01:04:27,540
has always done that.

1373
01:04:27,540 --> 01:04:28,680
And I agree to that.

1374
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,880
That's what makes us work so
well together that we do that.

1375
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,780
So we have a motion
for option three.

1376
01:04:34,780 --> 01:04:36,880
But I didn't hear
the wording in it.

1377
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:40,660
We just said make a motion
to accept option three.

1378
01:04:40,660 --> 01:04:46,500
Are we're providing the staff
with an alternate direction of

1379
01:04:46,500 --> 01:04:48,240
we're going to do case by case.

1380
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,480
Correct is that
what the motion was.

1381
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:51,640
Yeah right.

1382
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:53,980
So we have a motion
and a second.

1383
01:04:53,980 --> 01:04:56,580
All those in favor.

1384
01:04:56,580 --> 01:05:01,480
Passes 5 to 0 for option
three case by case.

1385
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:07,240


1386
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,880
OK, now we're going
to have Mr. Bob

1387
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:18,200
tweedy, our economic development
King King of the kingdom.

1388
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,640
Let's hear all that you
got to tell us about.

1389
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:22,260
Good evening.

1390
01:05:22,260 --> 01:05:24,180
Mayor members of
council, for the record,

1391
01:05:24,180 --> 01:05:26,640
Bob tweedy, your economic
development director.

1392
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:30,640
The city council has prioritized
commercial and industrial growth

1393
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:34,500
within the city to enhance
employment opportunities,

1394
01:05:34,500 --> 01:05:38,220
the commercial tax base, and
overall economic, health,

1395
01:05:38,220 --> 01:05:41,160
well-being and prosperity
of our community.

1396
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,720
Although the city has
adopted and implemented

1397
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:47,080
a well thought out,
comprehensive and successful

1398
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:50,040
economic development
strategy and that is attached

1399
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:53,400
in your package, current
financial incentives

1400
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:56,920
are limited to a waiver
of city impact fees, which

1401
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,960
are applicable only to
large scale seaplane

1402
01:05:59,960 --> 01:06:01,670
plane related businesses.

1403
01:06:01,670 --> 01:06:06,190
And that's ordinance 2024 1511,
which is also in your packet

1404
01:06:06,190 --> 01:06:10,430
as a means of stimulating
further economic growth

1405
01:06:10,430 --> 01:06:13,550
in these areas, council
may wish to consider

1406
01:06:13,550 --> 01:06:18,770
enhancement of this incentive
with the following one.

1407
01:06:18,770 --> 01:06:22,430
Expanding current permanent
waiver of applicable city impact

1408
01:06:22,430 --> 01:06:27,310
fees under ordinance 2024
1511 and removing the seaplane

1409
01:06:27,310 --> 01:06:31,270
related only provisions,
including all manufacturers that

1410
01:06:31,270 --> 01:06:34,070
create 25 or more
full time employees

1411
01:06:34,070 --> 01:06:40,070
or 25 and/or 25 equivalent
residential units or eras.

1412
01:06:40,070 --> 01:06:43,010
Two development of an
additional new ordinance,

1413
01:06:43,010 --> 01:06:46,030
waiving all applicable
city impact fees,

1414
01:06:46,030 --> 01:06:49,110
and/or building permit fees
for new commercial development

1415
01:06:49,110 --> 01:06:53,150
within the city for a limited
period of time, for example, one

1416
01:06:53,150 --> 01:06:56,690
year or 18 months with
a phase in period,

1417
01:06:56,690 --> 01:07:00,810
perhaps of an additional
6 to 12 months at 50%

1418
01:07:00,810 --> 01:07:02,890
A similar program
was put into place

1419
01:07:02,890 --> 01:07:08,870
Citywide for all development
in the 2009 to 2011 time frame.

1420
01:07:08,870 --> 01:07:11,850
During a period of
economic downturn,

1421
01:07:11,850 --> 01:07:15,690
that program resulted in
significant private commercial

1422
01:07:15,690 --> 01:07:18,090
investment in the city
to include projects

1423
01:07:18,090 --> 01:07:22,590
such as the Downtown hotels, the
big house and the osprey lodge,

1424
01:07:22,590 --> 01:07:23,770
to name a few.

1425
01:07:23,770 --> 01:07:26,490
And that was in the tens
of millions of dollars

1426
01:07:26,490 --> 01:07:29,410
worth of investment overall.

1427
01:07:29,410 --> 01:07:32,470
If the city council approves
one or both options,

1428
01:07:32,470 --> 01:07:34,330
staff will work with
the city attorney

1429
01:07:34,330 --> 01:07:39,450
to develop formal ordinances for
presentation and consideration

1430
01:07:39,450 --> 01:07:42,810
by the Council, by the
Council at a future meeting.

1431
01:07:42,810 --> 01:07:46,250
And I'm happy to answer
any questions you may have.

1432
01:07:46,250 --> 01:07:47,290
Back to you, Mayor.

1433
01:07:47,290 --> 01:07:47,790
All right.

1434
01:07:47,790 --> 01:07:49,330
Thank you, Mr. Tweedie.

1435
01:07:49,330 --> 01:07:51,650
Council, do you
have any questions.

1436
01:07:51,650 --> 01:07:54,410
Do we have any seaplane
manufacturers still.

1437
01:07:54,410 --> 01:07:55,590
We do not.

1438
01:07:55,590 --> 01:07:59,910
We had, as you all are
aware, sea ray, which

1439
01:07:59,910 --> 01:08:04,070
was located out on 19 by Lake.

1440
01:08:04,070 --> 01:08:05,670
They went out of business.

1441
01:08:05,670 --> 01:08:10,750
They are in the process of a new
Owners have bought that company

1442
01:08:10,750 --> 01:08:14,630
the license to
produce that aircraft,

1443
01:08:14,630 --> 01:08:17,109
and they actually
are in the process

1444
01:08:17,109 --> 01:08:21,830
of working on a development
actually on the other side

1445
01:08:21,830 --> 01:08:22,729
of Lake Ida mirror.

1446
01:08:22,729 --> 01:08:24,290
They've talked to city staff.

1447
01:08:24,290 --> 01:08:26,790
Their engineers are
working on a site plan

1448
01:08:26,790 --> 01:08:30,750
and coming back with
a new development

1449
01:08:30,750 --> 01:08:34,550
of a new and improved sea ray
and a new and improved sea

1450
01:08:34,550 --> 01:08:41,630
ray manufacturing facility,
potentially on Lake Mirror.

1451
01:08:41,630 --> 01:08:44,310
Figure out is that
on the North side,

1452
01:08:44,310 --> 01:08:49,149
that would be on the East
side of Lake Ida mirror.

1453
01:08:49,149 --> 01:08:52,950
So Southeast Southeast
corner of the lake.

1454
01:08:52,950 --> 01:09:00,420
448 561 61 intersection area,
across from the County property

1455
01:09:00,420 --> 01:09:02,620
where the.

1456
01:09:02,620 --> 01:09:05,040
Yeah where the Renaissance
animal shelter.

1457
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:06,560
Yeah, exactly.

1458
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:13,779
And Mr. Drury, can you.

1459
01:09:13,779 --> 01:09:16,479
This is something
that's very dear to me.

1460
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:19,180
Is this.

1461
01:09:19,180 --> 01:09:20,500
These waivers.

1462
01:09:20,500 --> 01:09:22,300
And let me explain why.

1463
01:09:22,300 --> 01:09:25,899
20 years ago, when I
first got on the council

1464
01:09:25,899 --> 01:09:34,140
and Mr. Drury first began as our
city administrator, the taxes

1465
01:09:34,140 --> 01:09:41,580
for the city were 90,
10, 90% of the taxes

1466
01:09:41,580 --> 01:09:46,260
were on the back of the
residents, which is horrible.

1467
01:09:46,260 --> 01:09:49,660
And we went out and
when we first did this

1468
01:09:49,660 --> 01:09:52,100
and there was all this
housing, all this new housing

1469
01:09:52,100 --> 01:09:56,940
built and we just had different
things going on in Mr. Drury.

1470
01:09:56,940 --> 01:09:58,340
We got that down to.

1471
01:09:58,340 --> 01:10:00,440
Was it 60-40.

1472
01:10:00,440 --> 01:10:02,960
Very close to 60/40.

1473
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:09,240
And then we had all this
housing start and we had.

1474
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:13,840
We had housing developments
that had been approved,

1475
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:15,500
19 years before.

1476
01:10:15,500 --> 01:10:17,780
Which a lot of us
didn't even remember.

1477
01:10:17,780 --> 01:10:18,780
And all of a sudden.

1478
01:10:18,780 --> 01:10:19,700
So now we have all.

1479
01:10:19,700 --> 01:10:22,700
These different developments
built in all this housing.

1480
01:10:22,700 --> 01:10:25,180
And the same thing happened
has happened again.

1481
01:10:25,180 --> 01:10:31,160
We've crept back up to what I
think we're probably in the 70s.

1482
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,200
Yeah, somewhere around there.

1483
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,740
So I felt like we have
lost a lot of traction.

1484
01:10:35,740 --> 01:10:39,960
So to me doing this
for the commercial

1485
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:43,560
based building build
outs, I think it's

1486
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:45,200
going to help tremendously.

1487
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,600
I would love the thought
of this just filling up all

1488
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:51,500
the commercial highway
frontage that we have

1489
01:10:51,500 --> 01:10:53,140
when the word gets out.

1490
01:10:53,140 --> 01:10:57,260
And I like that they put in
here that we can readdress

1491
01:10:57,260 --> 01:11:01,120
it and find out, if we need.

1492
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:02,240
And we expanded it.

1493
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:04,800
I remember before
when we had it,

1494
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,360
we went a little bit
longer for whatever reason,

1495
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:10,660
because people were
not quite ready to come

1496
01:11:10,660 --> 01:11:12,920
in and get their approval,
and we had done that.

1497
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,000
But I think this is great.

1498
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:18,920
It absolutely worked before,
and I think it will work again,

1499
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:22,100
because I would love to
see us get those numbers

1500
01:11:22,100 --> 01:11:23,880
back to where we once had them.

1501
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:25,080
And we were so close.

1502
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:31,900
And I'm just excited to
see what can become of this

1503
01:11:31,900 --> 01:11:33,440
if we pass this.

1504
01:11:33,440 --> 01:11:36,340


1505
01:11:36,340 --> 01:11:38,940
I wasn't aware that we
back during that time

1506
01:11:38,940 --> 01:11:41,220
that we did the
building permit fees.

1507
01:11:41,220 --> 01:11:43,140
I know the impact fees
we did, but I wasn't

1508
01:11:43,140 --> 01:11:45,140
aware the building permit fees.

1509
01:11:45,140 --> 01:11:47,380
Well, we did just impact fees.

1510
01:11:47,380 --> 01:11:49,710
There was a revision.

1511
01:11:49,710 --> 01:11:51,730
So you initially started
you did a revision

1512
01:11:51,730 --> 01:11:53,410
to include for a
limited period, I

1513
01:11:53,410 --> 01:11:56,530
think the building
permit fees you could pay

1514
01:11:56,530 --> 01:12:00,810
after at a later date, I think.

1515
01:12:00,810 --> 01:12:02,730
Yeah, we did do
building permit fees.

1516
01:12:02,730 --> 01:12:05,370
I think you still
have to pay them.

1517
01:12:05,370 --> 01:12:08,670
But instead of paying them
at the time of applicant,

1518
01:12:08,670 --> 01:12:11,130
we moved it at the time of Ko.

1519
01:12:11,130 --> 01:12:14,290
There had to be paid
before, but they had to pay.

1520
01:12:14,290 --> 01:12:19,730
I just didn't remember that we
completely waived is a deferral.

1521
01:12:19,730 --> 01:12:21,030
I believe it was a deferral.

1522
01:12:21,030 --> 01:12:25,010
Yeah we could do that again.

1523
01:12:25,010 --> 01:12:32,410
I know someone put a $1 million
building on an out parcel.

1524
01:12:32,410 --> 01:12:35,410
How much money we would lose if
we weren't collecting the impact

1525
01:12:35,410 --> 01:12:38,330
fees or building fees.

1526
01:12:38,330 --> 01:12:43,190
I would punt over to I think,
community development director.

1527
01:12:43,190 --> 01:12:45,310
Yeah, I think we bring
back an ordinance to you.

1528
01:12:45,310 --> 01:12:46,470
We would answer that question.

1529
01:12:46,470 --> 01:12:49,550
We'd have if you want us
to head in this direction,

1530
01:12:49,550 --> 01:12:52,850
then we would have all of
that information for you.

1531
01:12:52,850 --> 01:12:57,310
Well, how is the
current commercial,

1532
01:12:57,310 --> 01:13:03,030
especially retail interests,
into areas going at the moment.

1533
01:13:03,030 --> 01:13:04,290
It's pretty good.

1534
01:13:04,290 --> 01:13:07,410
We as you're aware,
especially Mr. Price,

1535
01:13:07,410 --> 01:13:10,790
we engaged thanks to
council's appropriation

1536
01:13:10,790 --> 01:13:14,350
in last year's budget
for a retail consultant.

1537
01:13:14,350 --> 01:13:17,750
They've been working hard at
it, developed work with us

1538
01:13:17,750 --> 01:13:21,190
to develop a very well
thought out strategy and plan,

1539
01:13:21,190 --> 01:13:22,830
which they've been
implementing, and they're

1540
01:13:22,830 --> 01:13:24,910
gaining some great traction.

1541
01:13:24,910 --> 01:13:27,270
They've got a couple of
prospects in the hopper

1542
01:13:27,270 --> 01:13:31,190
right now for some
properties out on 19

1543
01:13:31,190 --> 01:13:36,370
that are in negotiation with
potential commercial developers.

1544
01:13:36,370 --> 01:13:39,790
So it's going along pretty well.

1545
01:13:39,790 --> 01:13:43,950
I spoke to them about this
last week in advance of this

1546
01:13:43,950 --> 01:13:45,370
and they're very excited.

1547
01:13:45,370 --> 01:13:48,090
They said it's a very
competitive market.

1548
01:13:48,090 --> 01:13:50,570
These retail
commercial developers

1549
01:13:50,570 --> 01:13:53,110
are looking at they're not
just looking at Tavari.

1550
01:13:53,110 --> 01:13:55,890
They're looking about
around the whole area.

1551
01:13:55,890 --> 01:13:59,250
And it could definitely
give us an edge

1552
01:13:59,250 --> 01:14:05,250
when it comes down to final
selection of those types

1553
01:14:05,250 --> 01:14:06,870
of commercial operations.

1554
01:14:06,870 --> 01:14:12,590
When potential retail
clients come to see you,

1555
01:14:12,590 --> 01:14:14,970
is this something that
they've expressed interest in

1556
01:14:14,970 --> 01:14:18,390
is some kind of a waiver of
impact fees to help them.

1557
01:14:18,390 --> 01:14:20,470
Is that something that would
push them over the top.

1558
01:14:20,470 --> 01:14:23,130
We have had
commercial developers

1559
01:14:23,130 --> 01:14:30,610
that have indicated that it
would be very, very helpful.

1560
01:14:30,610 --> 01:14:35,350
What do you think council.

1561
01:14:35,350 --> 01:14:36,390
How would you like to move.

1562
01:14:36,390 --> 01:14:38,970


1563
01:14:38,970 --> 01:14:40,690
I move to approve
the suggestions

1564
01:14:40,690 --> 01:14:46,120
from the economic department
both items one and 2.

1565
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:48,120
Are we talking about.

1566
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:49,780
I think so, yes.

1567
01:14:49,780 --> 01:14:52,780
Yeah this is all for commercial.

1568
01:14:52,780 --> 01:14:54,340
This isn't for residential.

1569
01:14:54,340 --> 01:14:55,760
No, this is commercial.

1570
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:59,180
Industrial I'll
second that motion.

1571
01:14:59,180 --> 01:15:00,760
And second, any more discussion.

1572
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:01,620
Just a question.

1573
01:15:01,620 --> 01:15:05,520
What was the motion
again to approve

1574
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:07,960
the above suggested
economic development,

1575
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,020
to remove the industrial plane.

1576
01:15:10,020 --> 01:15:18,680
Related and to whatever it said,
add a new Impact fee waivers

1577
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:20,880
for a limited time for
commercial development

1578
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:23,160
and bring that back
to you in ordinance

1579
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:27,160
form for your second
review and approval

1580
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:31,880
and just under discussion, if
you would as Mr. Price asked,

1581
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:35,280
if you could put that together,
a million, dollar, billion,

1582
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:38,600
million dollar building,
how much revenue would

1583
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:40,840
be lost from the impact fees.

1584
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,580
Nothing from the
building permit fees.

1585
01:15:43,580 --> 01:15:44,480
Because they're just.

1586
01:15:44,480 --> 01:15:47,380


1587
01:15:47,380 --> 01:15:48,920
Deferred deferred.

1588
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:53,880
Yeah I mean, if we're
going to lose 50 grand,

1589
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,940
but get a million
building on $1 million out

1590
01:15:56,940 --> 01:15:59,980
I think that's a
pretty good trade.

1591
01:15:59,980 --> 01:16:02,300
Yeah we'll give you
the tax revenues

1592
01:16:02,300 --> 01:16:04,940
and the future
contributions to the city.

1593
01:16:04,940 --> 01:16:07,040
Yeah, I'm looking
forward to. right, right.

1594
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:08,860
Well, and that's where
I think when this

1595
01:16:08,860 --> 01:16:12,140
was done back in that
period, because I

1596
01:16:12,140 --> 01:16:15,260
was here at that time, 2009 11.

1597
01:16:15,260 --> 01:16:20,260
That was the idea was,
yeah, you may lose upfront,

1598
01:16:20,260 --> 01:16:24,360
but you gain over a period
of years of what you lost,

1599
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:27,700
you're going to gain because
of having that building there.

1600
01:16:27,700 --> 01:16:30,860
So I think it's a
good idea what's

1601
01:16:30,860 --> 01:16:32,780
going to happen to
projects that are already

1602
01:16:32,780 --> 01:16:36,060
in the pipeline, such
as heritage square,

1603
01:16:36,060 --> 01:16:40,020
depends on when they submit,
when this ordinance passed

1604
01:16:40,020 --> 01:16:41,260
and when it's approved.

1605
01:16:41,260 --> 01:16:44,040
I know I've had a couple of
meetings with a couple of people

1606
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:47,480
and they're basically
well, we're not

1607
01:16:47,480 --> 01:16:50,240
quite ready to move forward.

1608
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:54,640
And we're looking at it closely.

1609
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:57,880
And what I like about
an ordinance that says

1610
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:02,260
got nine months to pull it
together or 12 all of a sudden.

1611
01:17:02,260 --> 01:17:03,940
I mean, that's what
happened in 08.

1612
01:17:03,940 --> 01:17:05,820
I mean, I had a lot of
people who said, yeah,

1613
01:17:05,820 --> 01:17:08,980
we're not quite ready to
move as soon as we pass it.

1614
01:17:08,980 --> 01:17:13,320
And I told the
owner of the hotels,

1615
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:15,640
12 months to pull the trigger.

1616
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:18,980
Within 30 days, he was like,
OK, I'm going to take the risk.

1617
01:17:18,980 --> 01:17:20,100
And it was a big risk.

1618
01:17:20,100 --> 01:17:21,220
And it's Roger Kooser.

1619
01:17:21,220 --> 01:17:24,600
Yeah Because the
economy was tanking.

1620
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:26,360
But I kept telling
him, you're going

1621
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:30,560
to get good pricing on your
lumber and your concrete

1622
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:34,320
and labor, and which they did.

1623
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:39,230
So it's a very powerful
economic incentive tool

1624
01:17:39,230 --> 01:17:42,910
to get people to not just
sit on property and talk

1625
01:17:42,910 --> 01:17:45,990
about doing projects,
but actually

1626
01:17:45,990 --> 01:17:50,150
do them because they only
have 12 months to get it done.

1627
01:17:50,150 --> 01:17:52,130
OK, yes.

1628
01:17:52,130 --> 01:17:55,970
And I remember the stimulation
the last time when we did.

1629
01:17:55,970 --> 01:17:58,370
I mean, we were the only
city we had people working,

1630
01:17:58,370 --> 01:17:59,850
people were going out
working every day.

1631
01:17:59,850 --> 01:18:01,170
All these houses
were being built.

1632
01:18:01,170 --> 01:18:04,350
I mean, it was when we had
done that back in the whenever

1633
01:18:04,350 --> 01:18:08,850
it was 2009, 8, 9, 10, whenever
it was when things were so bad.

1634
01:18:08,850 --> 01:18:11,850
And I mean, the
people in our city,

1635
01:18:11,850 --> 01:18:14,150
they were going to work every
day and had plenty of work

1636
01:18:14,150 --> 01:18:14,650
to do.

1637
01:18:14,650 --> 01:18:15,690
It was good.

1638
01:18:15,690 --> 01:18:18,830
It definitely was
obvious that it.

1639
01:18:18,830 --> 01:18:20,590
I have one other point.

1640
01:18:20,590 --> 01:18:23,130
I want a question
for clarification.

1641
01:18:23,130 --> 01:18:26,190
Sure we're talking
about commercial.

1642
01:18:26,190 --> 01:18:28,170
OK rental houses.

1643
01:18:28,170 --> 01:18:31,150


1644
01:18:31,150 --> 01:18:33,130
I House would be.

1645
01:18:33,130 --> 01:18:35,990
That'd be single
family home, right.

1646
01:18:35,990 --> 01:18:36,730
Commercially zoned.

1647
01:18:36,730 --> 01:18:38,950
You could have
commercial within, say,

1648
01:18:38,950 --> 01:18:44,090
a multifamily such as heritage
square, that sort of thing.

1649
01:18:44,090 --> 01:18:48,970
But yeah, I mean, apartment
buildings, if it's commercially

1650
01:18:48,970 --> 01:18:51,350
zoned, it would be eligible.

1651
01:18:51,350 --> 01:18:52,630
It's not commercially zoned.

1652
01:18:52,630 --> 01:18:53,790
It would not be eligible.

1653
01:18:53,790 --> 01:18:57,810
Because also what we ran
into with what's happening

1654
01:18:57,810 --> 01:19:00,290
on 19 there on that
corner, I don't

1655
01:19:00,290 --> 01:19:03,010
know where they went if
they've even went any further

1656
01:19:03,010 --> 01:19:04,310
where they're trying to build.

1657
01:19:04,310 --> 01:19:07,850
Even though we
turned low income,

1658
01:19:07,850 --> 01:19:10,370
it was where we
turned them down.

1659
01:19:10,370 --> 01:19:15,870
Actually, it was turned down,
but yet they came live, local,

1660
01:19:15,870 --> 01:19:19,450
and that is zoned
commercial industrial there.

1661
01:19:19,450 --> 01:19:25,890
So that would qualify even
though that's apartment if it

1662
01:19:25,890 --> 01:19:28,090
had a commercial component.

1663
01:19:28,090 --> 01:19:31,250
The commercial was going to
be on the frontage of 19.

1664
01:19:31,250 --> 01:19:36,590
The apartments were going to be
six story behind it as I recall.

1665
01:19:36,590 --> 01:19:43,910
Yes so let's make sure the right
commercial gets here, please.

1666
01:19:43,910 --> 01:19:45,310
That's a big thing.

1667
01:19:45,310 --> 01:19:47,410
This is a great board.

1668
01:19:47,410 --> 01:19:49,510
One of the best we've had.

1669
01:19:49,510 --> 01:19:52,270
You all got to remember
that I think of Tavares

1670
01:19:52,270 --> 01:19:54,670
as a blank Canvas,
or that we create

1671
01:19:54,670 --> 01:19:59,010
a Currier and Ives scenario
with the cemetery Arboretum.

1672
01:19:59,010 --> 01:20:00,210
What are we doing here.

1673
01:20:00,210 --> 01:20:03,890
Everything that we do has
to be visually wonderful.

1674
01:20:03,890 --> 01:20:06,470
Beautiful it has to be something
that if I can stand there

1675
01:20:06,470 --> 01:20:08,170
and I'd want to take
a picture of that,

1676
01:20:08,170 --> 01:20:10,610
that's how I visualize Tavares.

1677
01:20:10,610 --> 01:20:12,030
But what makes this
group really good

1678
01:20:12,030 --> 01:20:14,870
is that we can discuss
how we shall grow,

1679
01:20:14,870 --> 01:20:17,230
but at the same
time, let's just not

1680
01:20:17,230 --> 01:20:18,530
grow for the sake of growing.

1681
01:20:18,530 --> 01:20:22,617
Make sure what commercial comes
in here is really worthwhile.

1682
01:20:22,617 --> 01:20:23,950
There was a period
of time there that we

1683
01:20:23,950 --> 01:20:26,250
had some things going in here.

1684
01:20:26,250 --> 01:20:28,350
Like somebody mentioned.

1685
01:20:28,350 --> 01:20:28,850
We don't.

1686
01:20:28,850 --> 01:20:31,170
That's not what we want
when we talk commercial.

1687
01:20:31,170 --> 01:20:34,280
And to give these
incentives to these people.

1688
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:38,000
We want to make sure that the
right commercials coming in.

1689
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,000
I'm looking forward
down at Publix.

1690
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:41,420
I'm looking forward
to going down there

1691
01:20:41,420 --> 01:20:45,060
to go to a bonefish or
a Miller's ale house

1692
01:20:45,060 --> 01:20:47,660
or something like that,
going to fight for

1693
01:20:47,660 --> 01:20:50,260
the right commercial cheddars.

1694
01:20:50,260 --> 01:20:51,500
Yeah there you go.

1695
01:20:51,500 --> 01:20:52,160
There you go.

1696
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:53,360
Something like that.

1697
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:56,380
The one reason with
now we approved

1698
01:20:56,380 --> 01:21:00,100
that laundromat
there, that eyesore

1699
01:21:00,100 --> 01:21:01,400
has been there for so long.

1700
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:04,900
And at least the architecture
of that laundromat looked good

1701
01:21:04,900 --> 01:21:07,080
and we needed
something there again.

1702
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:09,260
But would I rather had
something else there.

1703
01:21:09,260 --> 01:21:11,420
Boy, I sure would have loved
to have something else there

1704
01:21:11,420 --> 01:21:13,500
besides a laundromat there.

1705
01:21:13,500 --> 01:21:16,280
But that the way
they've designed it,

1706
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:17,400
it's going to be nice looking.

1707
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:18,040
It's beautiful.

1708
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:19,240
It does enhance the landscape.

1709
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:22,500
And we don't have to
look at that eyesore

1710
01:21:22,500 --> 01:21:23,600
that's there anymore.

1711
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:26,180
But again, at the
same time, I really

1712
01:21:26,180 --> 01:21:31,200
want to watch for the proper
commercial that comes there.

1713
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:33,080
But we've got a
motion and a second.

1714
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:36,360
Yes, there was discussion.

1715
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:38,460
Sandy, when you brought
that up about that property,

1716
01:21:38,460 --> 01:21:41,760
that because of the Live
Local and the low income

1717
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:43,480
housing that was
going to go there

1718
01:21:43,480 --> 01:21:46,480
along with some commercial.

1719
01:21:46,480 --> 01:21:47,700
How do we stop that.

1720
01:21:47,700 --> 01:21:49,740
Because they're already
getting incentives.

1721
01:21:49,740 --> 01:21:51,460
Still live local, still exist.

1722
01:21:51,460 --> 01:21:52,840
It's still breathing.

1723
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:54,640
It could happen.

1724
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:56,020
You can't double dip.

1725
01:21:56,020 --> 01:22:00,120
I mean, they can't come in and
want to do the commercial aspect

1726
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:02,300
of it within the
low income housing,

1727
01:22:02,300 --> 01:22:03,960
because they're already
getting the break

1728
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:06,000
on the low income housing.

1729
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:07,140
They can't double dip.

1730
01:22:07,140 --> 01:22:08,720
Yeah we'll work with
the city attorney

1731
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:11,800
to have a carve out that
meets statutory requirements

1732
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:13,640
in the ordinance that
we bring back to you

1733
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:15,360
to address that,
to the two concerns

1734
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:16,500
you've just brought forward.

1735
01:22:16,500 --> 01:22:19,100
Yeah y'all understand
what I'm saying.

1736
01:22:19,100 --> 01:22:20,700
Yeah, that's a good point.

1737
01:22:20,700 --> 01:22:21,940
All right.

1738
01:22:21,940 --> 01:22:22,600
We'll do it.

1739
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:23,620
Have a motion and a second.

1740
01:22:23,620 --> 01:22:25,240
Any more discussion.

1741
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:27,240
All those in favor,
raise a hand.

1742
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:29,200
Motion passes 5 to 0.

1743
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:29,860
Thank you.

1744
01:22:29,860 --> 01:22:36,220
OK thank you for your hard
work there, Mr. tweedy.

1745
01:22:36,220 --> 01:22:36,720
All right.

1746
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:42,980
We're going to move on to
tab 14 budget workshop.

1747
01:22:42,980 --> 01:22:45,100
The general fund
budget was presented

1748
01:22:45,100 --> 01:22:48,560
to the city council on July
15, had a budget workshop.

1749
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:51,620
The enterprise and special
revenue fund budgets

1750
01:22:51,620 --> 01:22:56,060
were presented to the council
at the August 5 budget workshop.

1751
01:22:56,060 --> 01:23:00,220
The city council set the
maximum tentative millage rate

1752
01:23:00,220 --> 01:23:02,980
of 7.2 Mills, and
the maximum tentative

1753
01:23:02,980 --> 01:23:07,140
voted debt service
rate of 0.1335 Mills

1754
01:23:07,140 --> 01:23:09,540
at the July 15 budget workshop.

1755
01:23:09,540 --> 01:23:12,580
At this meeting, the five
year capital improvement

1756
01:23:12,580 --> 01:23:15,500
plan will be presented, after
which the council will have

1757
01:23:15,500 --> 01:23:20,980
an opportunity to discuss it
and then the proposed budget

1758
01:23:20,980 --> 01:23:24,340
at the next item, tab 15.

1759
01:23:24,340 --> 01:23:27,140
So with that, I'm going
to ask our finance

1760
01:23:27,140 --> 01:23:30,690
director to present
the five year

1761
01:23:30,690 --> 01:23:33,350
capital improvement program.

1762
01:23:33,350 --> 01:23:38,130


1763
01:23:38,130 --> 01:23:41,130
Council I'm here
to present to you

1764
01:23:41,130 --> 01:23:44,610
some highlights of the
capital improvement program.

1765
01:23:44,610 --> 01:23:47,330
Staff has prepared
some extra large copies

1766
01:23:47,330 --> 01:23:51,650
for easy reading of the complete
program at the dais for you.

1767
01:23:51,650 --> 01:23:54,010
Yes This thing if you want to.

1768
01:23:54,010 --> 01:23:56,030
So that should you
have questions,

1769
01:23:56,030 --> 01:24:00,250
it will be easier to read.

1770
01:24:00,250 --> 01:24:02,790
And if you don't mind,
I'm going to read it from.

1771
01:24:02,790 --> 01:24:05,490
I'm going to go through
the presentation from here.

1772
01:24:05,490 --> 01:24:07,170
It is going to be
short and we're just

1773
01:24:07,170 --> 01:24:09,190
going to hit the highlights.

1774
01:24:09,190 --> 01:24:12,350
That way it'll come back to
council for your discussion.

1775
01:24:12,350 --> 01:24:14,730
Sure all right.

1776
01:24:14,730 --> 01:24:18,090
First, let's go over what
does capital assets mean.

1777
01:24:18,090 --> 01:24:21,450
The government finance Officers
Association defines capital

1778
01:24:21,450 --> 01:24:25,170
assets as assets of
significant value

1779
01:24:25,170 --> 01:24:28,470
and having a useful
life of several years.

1780
01:24:28,470 --> 01:24:29,650
City of Tavares.

1781
01:24:29,650 --> 01:24:31,630
Anything with a
useful life of five

1782
01:24:31,630 --> 01:24:35,030
or more years is
capitalized, and our capital

1783
01:24:35,030 --> 01:24:37,170
threshold is $5,000.

1784
01:24:37,170 --> 01:24:41,390
If an item costs that much, it
goes through the capital plan

1785
01:24:41,390 --> 01:24:43,310
capital improvement program.

1786
01:24:43,310 --> 01:24:45,950
The capital improvement
program, or CIP,

1787
01:24:45,950 --> 01:24:48,430
is a plan for
capital expenditures

1788
01:24:48,430 --> 01:24:53,650
to be incurred each year over a
fixed period of several years,

1789
01:24:53,650 --> 01:24:57,590
usually five or six, setting
forth each capital project

1790
01:24:57,590 --> 01:25:00,790
and identifying the
expected beginning

1791
01:25:00,790 --> 01:25:03,210
and ending date
for each project,

1792
01:25:03,210 --> 01:25:05,570
the amount to be
expended in each year,

1793
01:25:05,570 --> 01:25:09,590
and the method for paying
for those expenditures.

1794
01:25:09,590 --> 01:25:13,910
As you know me, I love quotes
that are right on target

1795
01:25:13,910 --> 01:25:15,350
with what we're doing.

1796
01:25:15,350 --> 01:25:21,790
Louis Pasteur said chance
favors the prepared mind.

1797
01:25:21,790 --> 01:25:26,930
Our Ci plan SIP plan land
gives us that preparation

1798
01:25:26,930 --> 01:25:29,490
for a prepared mind.

1799
01:25:29,490 --> 01:25:35,730
Let's look at an overview of the
categories within the SIP plan.

1800
01:25:35,730 --> 01:25:41,990
The total amount is $99,655,806.

1801
01:25:41,990 --> 01:25:48,130
From fiscal year 2026
through fiscal year 2031.

1802
01:25:48,130 --> 01:25:50,870
As you can see, we
have beautification,

1803
01:25:50,870 --> 01:25:54,330
economic development, public
buildings and facilities,

1804
01:25:54,330 --> 01:25:58,370
parks and recreation,
transportation, water facilities

1805
01:25:58,370 --> 01:26:02,090
and improvements, wastewater
facilities and improvements,

1806
01:26:02,090 --> 01:26:07,450
water reuse and reclamation,
solid waste, stormwater

1807
01:26:07,450 --> 01:26:09,610
and general government.

1808
01:26:09,610 --> 01:26:14,010
And as you can see, some
of the largest categories

1809
01:26:14,010 --> 01:26:18,650
is the water, transportation
and wastewater

1810
01:26:18,650 --> 01:26:22,630
sectors, as well as the public
buildings and facilities.

1811
01:26:22,630 --> 01:26:29,480
Abilities OK, let's take
a look at the five year

1812
01:26:29,480 --> 01:26:32,920
CIP categories in a
graphical perspective.

1813
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:37,380
And as you can see, potable
water, public buildings,

1814
01:26:37,380 --> 01:26:42,360
wastewater, our parts of the
largest parts of our capital

1815
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:44,480
plan with
transportation and parks

1816
01:26:44,480 --> 01:26:47,160
and recreation and
general government

1817
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:48,660
coming in right behind.

1818
01:26:48,660 --> 01:26:53,000


1819
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:55,160
And then if you look
at the proposed funding

1820
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:58,880
on a graphical
pie chart, you can

1821
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:03,360
see that most of your funding is
going to come from general fund.

1822
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:07,480
This is the proposed funding,
state revolving loan funds

1823
01:27:07,480 --> 01:27:09,520
for those capital
projects for water

1824
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:12,640
and wastewater and stormwater.

1825
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:16,160
And then we have
wastewater impacts

1826
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:19,560
that are going to
fund and strategically

1827
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:22,880
offset some of the SRF funding.

1828
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:27,540
And we have water wastewater
operations, general fund

1829
01:27:27,540 --> 01:27:29,360
operations, operating revenue.

1830
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:30,960
27% is proposed.

1831
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:32,420
That's pay as you go.

1832
01:27:32,420 --> 01:27:35,220
There's 0 amount in
the proposed plan

1833
01:27:35,220 --> 01:27:37,080
for general government debt.

1834
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:40,220


1835
01:27:40,220 --> 01:27:44,740
Now this is a favorite
quote that Bret loves.

1836
01:27:44,740 --> 01:27:47,200
Give me six hours
to chop down a tree.

1837
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:49,260
And I will spend the
first four sharpening

1838
01:27:49,260 --> 01:27:51,560
the x Abraham Lincoln.

1839
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:54,340


1840
01:27:54,340 --> 01:27:56,900
Now let's look at
some of the highlights

1841
01:27:56,900 --> 01:27:59,780
for the general government CIP.

1842
01:27:59,780 --> 01:28:02,400
This does not include
all of the capital items,

1843
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:07,080
but it's just intended to
highlight those that are.

1844
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:14,620
In fiscal year 2027,
total $1,566,682.

1845
01:28:14,620 --> 01:28:17,500
As you can see, we've
got police vehicles.

1846
01:28:17,500 --> 01:28:20,740
We've got breathing apparatus
for the fire department.

1847
01:28:20,740 --> 01:28:23,760
We've got alleyway
improvements, road paving.

1848
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:27,080
We've got the West Main
Street streetscape.

1849
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:29,620
We've got signs to
define the waterfront,

1850
01:28:29,620 --> 01:28:33,380
we've got the Veterans
Memorial plan and columbarium,

1851
01:28:33,380 --> 01:28:36,640
and we've got cemetery,
laboratory, Arboretum

1852
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:38,320
and irrigation repair.

1853
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:42,880
And then we've got new vehicles
for parks and recreation,

1854
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:45,680
and then we've got
the Golden Triangle

1855
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:48,140
regional park, West
parking, restrooms,

1856
01:28:48,140 --> 01:28:49,620
and sidewalk construction.

1857
01:28:49,620 --> 01:28:53,160


1858
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:55,160
Now let's look at
some of the highlights

1859
01:28:55,160 --> 01:29:01,960
for the enterprise fund.
$22,655,000 you've got

1860
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:03,920
several projects here.

1861
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:05,880
The largest one I'll
draw your attention to

1862
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:08,920
is the Citywide improvements
to drinking water system design

1863
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:13,960
and construction
that is anticipated

1864
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:16,420
to be all loan forgiveness.

1865
01:29:16,420 --> 01:29:18,530
We will apply for an SRF loan.

1866
01:29:18,530 --> 01:29:22,170
We meet all the requirements
as we go through the process.

1867
01:29:22,170 --> 01:29:23,910
And then the loan is forgiven.

1868
01:29:23,910 --> 01:29:27,910
That is, we think that is
just absolutely awesome.

1869
01:29:27,910 --> 01:29:31,210
We have a base read phase 9.

1870
01:29:31,210 --> 01:29:34,070
That's our antenna
program for me to read.

1871
01:29:34,070 --> 01:29:36,410
Wastewater treatment
pump station.

1872
01:29:36,410 --> 01:29:38,130
Upgrade their lift station.

1873
01:29:38,130 --> 01:29:41,110
Install a bypass
for lift station 38.

1874
01:29:41,110 --> 01:29:45,010
Pipelining wastewater
upgrade panel for pumps.

1875
01:29:45,010 --> 01:29:48,350
Low pressure for
the sewer system.

1876
01:29:48,350 --> 01:29:51,510
Hundreds kilowatt portable
generator and then some storm

1877
01:29:51,510 --> 01:29:54,750
line repairs.

1878
01:29:54,750 --> 01:29:58,830
Now let's take a look forward
for some of our locked projects.

1879
01:29:58,830 --> 01:30:01,450
And if you look on
the screen above,

1880
01:30:01,450 --> 01:30:04,470
you can see some of the
largest ones of the pavilion AC

1881
01:30:04,470 --> 01:30:05,830
in design.

1882
01:30:05,830 --> 01:30:08,710
We've got a fire engine
replacement there.

1883
01:30:08,710 --> 01:30:11,430
We've got a senior
center on the long range

1884
01:30:11,430 --> 01:30:13,710
planning for 1,000,008 50.

1885
01:30:13,710 --> 01:30:17,930
We've got 9 million can plan
for SRF or wastewater treatment

1886
01:30:17,930 --> 01:30:21,250
plant expansions and upgrades.

1887
01:30:21,250 --> 01:30:24,610
We've got a million
725 on the plan

1888
01:30:24,610 --> 01:30:29,730
for reclaimed water in
2028, and then more in 2029.

1889
01:30:29,730 --> 01:30:33,370
And we have let's see.

1890
01:30:33,370 --> 01:30:38,130
We've got several
for the recreation.

1891
01:30:38,130 --> 01:30:39,850
We've got the dock pier.

1892
01:30:39,850 --> 01:30:41,710
Well I won't go there.

1893
01:30:41,710 --> 01:30:44,170
The ST Clair Abrams
project, which

1894
01:30:44,170 --> 01:30:46,690
should that we're
currently working on

1895
01:30:46,690 --> 01:30:49,770
should finish this year.

1896
01:30:49,770 --> 01:30:51,070
But there's several there.

1897
01:30:51,070 --> 01:30:53,230
And I encourage
you to take a look.

1898
01:30:53,230 --> 01:30:57,690
And as we go through the
budget process each year,

1899
01:30:57,690 --> 01:30:59,870
we take a look at all
of these projects,

1900
01:30:59,870 --> 01:31:03,190
look at the priority for
them, and they may move up.

1901
01:31:03,190 --> 01:31:06,770
They may move further out
into the future depending

1902
01:31:06,770 --> 01:31:11,330
on the expected
funding opportunity

1903
01:31:11,330 --> 01:31:15,670
to offset the needed projects.

1904
01:31:15,670 --> 01:31:20,750
And that pretty much is a high
level view of your CIP plan.

1905
01:31:20,750 --> 01:31:25,270
And we're here to answer any
questions that you may have.

1906
01:31:25,270 --> 01:31:26,750
Mayor, back to you.

1907
01:31:26,750 --> 01:31:28,790
Thank you.

1908
01:31:28,790 --> 01:31:29,290
All right.

1909
01:31:29,290 --> 01:31:31,230
Council, have any
questions for MS

1910
01:31:31,230 --> 01:31:36,710
Houghton or discussion questions
for Mr. Questions anywhere.

1911
01:31:36,710 --> 01:31:43,990
Comments hello.

1912
01:31:43,990 --> 01:31:50,030
No thank you on this.

1913
01:31:50,030 --> 01:31:53,390
Once again great job.

1914
01:31:53,390 --> 01:31:55,910
Thank you.

1915
01:31:55,910 --> 01:31:59,050
As you're reviewing it this
through the budget process.

1916
01:31:59,050 --> 01:32:00,670
Should you have any
questions Brett and I

1917
01:32:00,670 --> 01:32:02,410
will be happy to assist you.

1918
01:32:02,410 --> 01:32:05,390


1919
01:32:05,390 --> 01:32:06,050
All right.

1920
01:32:06,050 --> 01:32:08,590


1921
01:32:08,590 --> 01:32:09,810
How would you like to move.

1922
01:32:09,810 --> 01:32:13,180


1923
01:32:13,180 --> 01:32:20,080
I think the next item is I think
this was to receive the budget.

1924
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:22,620
I don't think there's a
vote required on this.

1925
01:32:22,620 --> 01:32:24,420
All right.

1926
01:32:24,420 --> 01:32:30,820
So we're moving on to continued
deliberations and updates Mr.

1927
01:32:30,820 --> 01:32:34,860
Drury, and opportunities
provided the council to resume

1928
01:32:34,860 --> 01:32:38,060
budget deliberations and
then finalize a draft budget

1929
01:32:38,060 --> 01:32:41,520
for the first public hearing,
which is on Thursday,

1930
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:46,900
September the 3, 2026, at 5:05
PM and the second and final

1931
01:32:46,900 --> 01:32:48,840
public hearing, which
is on Wednesday,

1932
01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:53,620
September 16, 2026 at 5:05 PM.

1933
01:32:53,620 --> 01:32:58,540
Based on discussions at
the last budget workshop,

1934
01:32:58,540 --> 01:33:01,260
the proposed budget has
been updated to include

1935
01:33:01,260 --> 01:33:03,820
two additional police officers.

1936
01:33:03,820 --> 01:33:07,280
Starting on 7, 127 and
two new police vehicles.

1937
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:09,180
Additionally, the
proposed budget

1938
01:33:09,180 --> 01:33:12,080
has been updated based on
current updates from the city's

1939
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:15,480
health and dental staff
vacancies, changes in health,

1940
01:33:15,480 --> 01:33:18,360
dental insurance
coverage, et cetera.

1941
01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:20,360
Exhibit A contains
the adjustments

1942
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:21,860
to the proposed budget.

1943
01:33:21,860 --> 01:33:24,360
Should be noted that the city is
still waiting on final revenue

1944
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:28,120
estimates from the state
for state shared revenues

1945
01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:29,840
and final costs for
general liability

1946
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:32,600
and workers' compensation
from the city's

1947
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:34,400
public entity insurer.

1948
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:36,240
It is anticipated
that these figures

1949
01:33:36,240 --> 01:33:41,360
should be available before
the first public hearing.

1950
01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:49,080
The original proposed budget
had in it 158,884, to be added

1951
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:52,000
into general fund reserves.

1952
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:56,880
The updated proposed budget,
reflecting the changes above,

1953
01:33:56,880 --> 01:34:04,720
resulted in a $245,242
more in expenditures

1954
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:06,720
than in budgeted revenues.

1955
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:10,340
The changes we
did have increased

1956
01:34:10,340 --> 01:34:13,080
what I recommended by 245.

1957
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:17,000
242 therefore, in order
to have a balanced budget,

1958
01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:20,180
it's recommended to reduce.

1959
01:34:20,180 --> 01:34:26,700
The amount provided for general
fund reserves from 158 894 down

1960
01:34:26,700 --> 01:34:28,060
to 0.

1961
01:34:28,060 --> 01:34:30,980
This still maintains three
months of general fund

1962
01:34:30,980 --> 01:34:33,500
reserves and the budget.

1963
01:34:33,500 --> 01:34:38,820
And results in a lowering
of the 7.2 tentative millage

1964
01:34:38,820 --> 01:34:45,140
rate down to a
millage rate of 6.992,

1965
01:34:45,140 --> 01:34:48,260
to have a balanced budget
based on the changes

1966
01:34:48,260 --> 01:34:52,020
you made at your last meeting.

1967
01:34:52,020 --> 01:34:54,780
After the council deliberates
and finalizes the budget millage

1968
01:34:54,780 --> 01:34:57,020
rates, they will be
brought back to the council

1969
01:34:57,020 --> 01:34:59,820
with any final adjustments
from the state,

1970
01:34:59,820 --> 01:35:03,820
along with supporting
resolutions for the two

1971
01:35:03,820 --> 01:35:10,930
public hearings in September
for further public input

1972
01:35:10,930 --> 01:35:13,330
on the council.

1973
01:35:13,330 --> 01:35:18,570
So at this point, you have an
opportunity to instruct staff

1974
01:35:18,570 --> 01:35:20,930
to move forward and bring
back the resolutions

1975
01:35:20,930 --> 01:35:27,130
for the public hearings, as
is to make further adjustments

1976
01:35:27,130 --> 01:35:32,310
to the budget and deliberate
anything you want pulled out,

1977
01:35:32,310 --> 01:35:34,290
put in.

1978
01:35:34,290 --> 01:35:37,330
We'll take notes and then we
would bring back any changes

1979
01:35:37,330 --> 01:35:42,890
you have in the final, at the
next, at the next meeting,

1980
01:35:42,890 --> 01:35:44,850
back to you.

1981
01:35:44,850 --> 01:35:45,890
I have a change.

1982
01:35:45,890 --> 01:35:54,410
So I know at the last meeting
we had discussed the opportunity

1983
01:35:54,410 --> 01:35:57,890
to give over 20
years, five years

1984
01:35:57,890 --> 01:36:01,570
health insurance going forward.

1985
01:36:01,570 --> 01:36:03,410
I thought about that.

1986
01:36:03,410 --> 01:36:08,670
I heard countless and I
mean countless responses

1987
01:36:08,670 --> 01:36:13,490
from constituents, and no
one was in favor of that.

1988
01:36:13,490 --> 01:36:16,470
I heard a lot of and I listened
to a lot of people's reasoning

1989
01:36:16,470 --> 01:36:21,370
wise on that, and I have come
to agree with what they told me,

1990
01:36:21,370 --> 01:36:24,850
so I am voting against that.

1991
01:36:24,850 --> 01:36:27,990


1992
01:36:27,990 --> 01:36:30,050
So you're saying you want
to pull that back out.

1993
01:36:30,050 --> 01:36:31,370
It's back in OK.

1994
01:36:31,370 --> 01:36:38,350
Correct all right.

1995
01:36:38,350 --> 01:36:42,470
I have and I could
not go with that

1996
01:36:42,470 --> 01:36:49,710
because to me that's telling our
staff that is not a director.

1997
01:36:49,710 --> 01:36:52,590
You really don't
mean anything to us

1998
01:36:52,590 --> 01:36:57,130
deal that we're only concerned
about the upper echelon.

1999
01:36:57,130 --> 01:37:01,590
And that's not I don't think
this council's viewpoint.

2000
01:37:01,590 --> 01:37:04,610
What I asked Mr.
Drury, was what could

2001
01:37:04,610 --> 01:37:08,210
we do similar to what Leesburg
did with their employees

2002
01:37:08,210 --> 01:37:11,210
over there to help out.

2003
01:37:11,210 --> 01:37:17,090
And they came up with a
longevity plan over 20 years

2004
01:37:17,090 --> 01:37:22,650
that we would contribute so much
money into that on our budget

2005
01:37:22,650 --> 01:37:24,550
hearing this year.

2006
01:37:24,550 --> 01:37:28,650


2007
01:37:28,650 --> 01:37:30,930
I would love to do it this year.

2008
01:37:30,930 --> 01:37:34,050
But if we did it this year, we
would have to go into reserves

2009
01:37:34,050 --> 01:37:35,230
to be able to do it.

2010
01:37:35,230 --> 01:37:37,170
And I'm not for going
into our reserves

2011
01:37:37,170 --> 01:37:39,970
until I know what
happens in November.

2012
01:37:39,970 --> 01:37:44,850
But if we were able to do
it, fund it, and the funding

2013
01:37:44,850 --> 01:37:50,810
to do this would be $66,658.

2014
01:37:50,810 --> 01:37:55,410
And they came up with a plan
that starts at five years

2015
01:37:55,410 --> 01:37:59,130
and goes all the
way up to 20 years.

2016
01:37:59,130 --> 01:38:02,980
But I would ask Mr. Drury
to share this with everyone,

2017
01:38:02,980 --> 01:38:03,740
but I just.

2018
01:38:03,740 --> 01:38:06,680
If you're interested in
something of this nature

2019
01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:08,940
that it allows gives
them an incentive.

2020
01:38:08,940 --> 01:38:10,100
It also what it does.

2021
01:38:10,100 --> 01:38:13,800
It puts money in and is
paid out each December.

2022
01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:15,140
But he can give that.

2023
01:38:15,140 --> 01:38:17,780
And you can get what
MS Lori about it.

2024
01:38:17,780 --> 01:38:19,620
Get more information that way.

2025
01:38:19,620 --> 01:38:24,600
I'm not giving second hand and
mixing it up, but to me this way

2026
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:28,080
it gives every
employee something.

2027
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:29,800
And technically
what it comes out to

2028
01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:33,600
is like a bonus at December,
that they could even keep it

2029
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:36,340
in there or roll it over
however they want to do,

2030
01:38:36,340 --> 01:38:38,240
or they could do
something else with it.

2031
01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:41,260
But it's something that
tells our employees.

2032
01:38:41,260 --> 01:38:43,840


2033
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:45,720
We care about you.

2034
01:38:45,720 --> 01:38:49,280
We may not be able to
give them a raise per se,

2035
01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:51,720
but if we could do
something like this,

2036
01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:54,960
it would be something there.

2037
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:56,840
But I talked to
another individual

2038
01:38:56,840 --> 01:39:00,540
and they said it sounded like
this is a great way to do it,

2039
01:39:00,540 --> 01:39:03,320
but I would prefer that you
gave the employees more money.

2040
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:05,940
If what you're telling me
their average salary is we

2041
01:39:05,940 --> 01:39:09,540
need to increase their pay.

2042
01:39:09,540 --> 01:39:11,740
And this would be an incentive.

2043
01:39:11,740 --> 01:39:13,420
But like I say,
this is something

2044
01:39:13,420 --> 01:39:15,580
that Mr. Drury can share
with you between now

2045
01:39:15,580 --> 01:39:16,900
and the next meeting.

2046
01:39:16,900 --> 01:39:18,740
And you can review it
and see and if you've

2047
01:39:18,740 --> 01:39:20,040
got any questions about it.

2048
01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:25,620
But this tells every employee
that you matter to us.

2049
01:39:25,620 --> 01:39:31,580
We care about you and I. I
just I can't just nail down

2050
01:39:31,580 --> 01:39:34,160
just one group of
people and say, OK,

2051
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:35,200
we're just going to do this.

2052
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:40,740
And I appreciate Mr. Collins
pulling back his vote on that

2053
01:39:40,740 --> 01:39:45,060
because it does set a precedent.

2054
01:39:45,060 --> 01:39:47,840
But if we could come
up with a 66,000,

2055
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:50,700
I have an idea for this
year, but I don't think Mr.

2056
01:39:50,700 --> 01:39:51,880
Bernier would like it.

2057
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:54,540


2058
01:39:54,540 --> 01:39:57,400
And that would be the $50,000
for that special event.

2059
01:39:57,400 --> 01:39:59,320
I have a question
about that too.

2060
01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:00,340
The 50,000.

2061
01:40:00,340 --> 01:40:03,600
What does that cover.

2062
01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:06,280
We would go out for proposals.

2063
01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:10,920
They would submit a
proposal to this council,

2064
01:40:10,920 --> 01:40:15,000
and then you would be given what
they're going to use it for.

2065
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:18,160
It would be various costs
associated with putting

2066
01:40:18,160 --> 01:40:21,480
on an event of this caliber.

2067
01:40:21,480 --> 01:40:25,800
So you'll get to see that in
the proposal process, probably

2068
01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:28,080
in the October,
November time frame.

2069
01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:31,200
They'll be making the
presentations to you

2070
01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:33,200
on what that money
would be spent on,

2071
01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:37,280
and it would be
legitimate event costs.

2072
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:43,280
Because that covers police
fire and clean up afterwards.

2073
01:40:43,280 --> 01:40:46,040
I would assume everything
would be included in there.

2074
01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:50,960
OK Mr. Mr. Grenier, the reason
I asked chamber what I did

2075
01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:52,760
was because of this.

2076
01:40:52,760 --> 01:40:54,800
If they would get on board
and they would come up

2077
01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:57,070
with the funding
for that themselves

2078
01:40:57,070 --> 01:41:00,230
because it benefits them and
the businesses around more than

2079
01:41:00,230 --> 01:41:02,870
it does the city of Tavares.

2080
01:41:02,870 --> 01:41:04,950
This is not a chamber
type of thing.

2081
01:41:04,950 --> 01:41:07,170
Well, I'm just saying
chamber type of thing.

2082
01:41:07,170 --> 01:41:11,670
It is an event that they
could do and promote and go,

2083
01:41:11,670 --> 01:41:15,270
but I would be more apt to put
that $50,000 toward helping

2084
01:41:15,270 --> 01:41:20,830
our employees on something there
that goes over a 20 year period.

2085
01:41:20,830 --> 01:41:25,770
I think his event will generate
a lot of income for our city.

2086
01:41:25,770 --> 01:41:27,890
A lot of income
for our businesses.

2087
01:41:27,890 --> 01:41:32,950
It's projected to fill every
hotel room that we have.

2088
01:41:32,950 --> 01:41:33,970
It's huge.

2089
01:41:33,970 --> 01:41:40,150
We have people coming nationwide
or coming to the city of Tavares

2090
01:41:40,150 --> 01:41:44,390
for this grand finale of
rival rails and history.

2091
01:41:44,390 --> 01:41:45,610
It surprised me.

2092
01:41:45,610 --> 01:41:49,710
I've never been interested
in it, but I'll be honest.

2093
01:41:49,710 --> 01:41:51,290
Every time they did it before.

2094
01:41:51,290 --> 01:41:51,790
What?

2095
01:41:51,790 --> 01:41:53,750
you did it a couple
of years before.

2096
01:41:53,750 --> 01:41:54,490
Five years.

2097
01:41:54,490 --> 01:41:55,590
However long it was.

2098
01:41:55,590 --> 01:41:58,250
And I just remember
it was very, very

2099
01:41:58,250 --> 01:42:00,150
lucrative to the businesses.

2100
01:42:00,150 --> 01:42:01,230
It truly was.

2101
01:42:01,230 --> 01:42:03,990
I think we have to
have things like this.

2102
01:42:03,990 --> 01:42:06,050
We have to promote
things like this

2103
01:42:06,050 --> 01:42:10,330
to make sure that our
businesses here in the city

2104
01:42:10,330 --> 01:42:14,490
remain and grow, which they
should be entitled to do.

2105
01:42:14,490 --> 01:42:18,090
I darn sure would not take
that $50,000 from that.

2106
01:42:18,090 --> 01:42:19,430
I love your idea.

2107
01:42:19,430 --> 01:42:23,250
I mean, if you feel
like we need to do

2108
01:42:23,250 --> 01:42:26,310
something more for the
employees, I understand that.

2109
01:42:26,310 --> 01:42:28,810
I mean, I like to do a
whole lot more than we're

2110
01:42:28,810 --> 01:42:30,270
doing for all of our employees.

2111
01:42:30,270 --> 01:42:31,090
It's just.

2112
01:42:31,090 --> 01:42:32,570
What can you do.

2113
01:42:32,570 --> 01:42:34,790
Well, my interest is
keeping them here.

2114
01:42:34,790 --> 01:42:35,750
That's what I want to do.

2115
01:42:35,750 --> 01:42:37,990
We invest in them, and
I want them to stay.

2116
01:42:37,990 --> 01:42:43,010
And I think something like
this would more likely

2117
01:42:43,010 --> 01:42:45,430
keep them here versus us.

2118
01:42:45,430 --> 01:42:47,590
Become a training ground,
and they go somewhere else.

2119
01:42:47,590 --> 01:42:48,530
That's what I'm saying.

2120
01:42:48,530 --> 01:42:53,670
Because years ago our thing was
with the police department when

2121
01:42:53,670 --> 01:42:59,030
Stoney was when I was on council
years ago and we were hiring

2122
01:42:59,030 --> 01:43:01,850
policemen, they were
here for maybe two years,

2123
01:43:01,850 --> 01:43:05,230
and then they went elsewhere
because they got two years

2124
01:43:05,230 --> 01:43:08,230
of training here and they
went elsewhere making maybe

2125
01:43:08,230 --> 01:43:10,270
$10,000 or $15,000
more a year than

2126
01:43:10,270 --> 01:43:12,030
what we could pay them here.

2127
01:43:12,030 --> 01:43:14,170
And so what we got
to do to correct it.

2128
01:43:14,170 --> 01:43:16,050
Well, we did over
a period of time,

2129
01:43:16,050 --> 01:43:19,030
the council approved,
we increased the pay

2130
01:43:19,030 --> 01:43:20,950
for the police officers,
and we did the same thing

2131
01:43:20,950 --> 01:43:22,190
with the fire department.

2132
01:43:22,190 --> 01:43:24,170
And we've tried to
do it with everybody.

2133
01:43:24,170 --> 01:43:27,230
So I think we're
on the right track

2134
01:43:27,230 --> 01:43:30,870
to try to create some type of
incentive to keep our employees

2135
01:43:30,870 --> 01:43:32,950
so that they don't go elsewhere.

2136
01:43:32,950 --> 01:43:36,650
Well, my thing on this,
what I wanted to do,

2137
01:43:36,650 --> 01:43:41,210
I definitely was not trying to
wipe out the other employees.

2138
01:43:41,210 --> 01:43:45,350
When you think about
it, general employees,

2139
01:43:45,350 --> 01:43:47,610
they provide daily
services every day.

2140
01:43:47,610 --> 01:43:50,190
Our general employees
are out there.

2141
01:43:50,190 --> 01:43:53,540
They provide services
for our residents

2142
01:43:53,540 --> 01:43:57,780
like police protection and fire
protection and parks and water

2143
01:43:57,780 --> 01:44:01,860
and sewer and roads and
they're paid by the taxes

2144
01:44:01,860 --> 01:44:04,060
that we bring in
the resident taxes.

2145
01:44:04,060 --> 01:44:06,480
And if they work extra,
all of our employees,

2146
01:44:06,480 --> 01:44:10,780
if they work extra, they get
paid time and a half overtime.

2147
01:44:10,780 --> 01:44:15,980
They have ways to make extra
money by volunteering to do this

2148
01:44:15,980 --> 01:44:20,380
where your department heads,
they manage the people

2149
01:44:20,380 --> 01:44:22,000
and of course,
they get paid more.

2150
01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:24,960
They're have much
more experience.

2151
01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:27,580
They have much more education.

2152
01:44:27,580 --> 01:44:32,480
They're out there they have
to be qualified to do this.

2153
01:44:32,480 --> 01:44:36,140
But they manage the people,
they manage the budgets.

2154
01:44:36,140 --> 01:44:40,020
They schedule the services,
daily services that we

2155
01:44:40,020 --> 01:44:42,540
provide for our residents.

2156
01:44:42,540 --> 01:44:44,940
They're also paid
by taxes and fees

2157
01:44:44,940 --> 01:44:50,120
that we get by the residents.

2158
01:44:50,120 --> 01:44:56,160
But they work extra to
they work extra applying

2159
01:44:56,160 --> 01:45:00,000
for grants, securing
grants, and they

2160
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,360
don't get anything for that.

2161
01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:03,540
They don't get anything.

2162
01:45:03,540 --> 01:45:06,440
Their day is spent
managing their employees

2163
01:45:06,440 --> 01:45:09,800
and their schedule and
doing logistics and getting

2164
01:45:09,800 --> 01:45:12,000
people where they belong.

2165
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:13,300
It's the night time.

2166
01:45:13,300 --> 01:45:14,800
It's the midnight
oil that they're

2167
01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:19,280
burning most of the time
trying to get these grants,

2168
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:20,860
and they get a Pat on the back.

2169
01:45:20,860 --> 01:45:22,560
I mean, that's all they get.

2170
01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:26,640
And the city manager
and all the Department

2171
01:45:26,640 --> 01:45:29,020
heads they have secured.

2172
01:45:29,020 --> 01:45:30,880
And I want you to
hear this number.

2173
01:45:30,880 --> 01:45:36,520
They have secured over
$100 million in grants.

2174
01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:40,320
Our department heads, Mr.
Drury, and our department heads,

2175
01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:46,740
have secured over $100 million
in grants for infrastructure

2176
01:45:46,740 --> 01:45:51,100
and for the
residents of Tavares.

2177
01:45:51,100 --> 01:45:59,060
So they get a Pat on the
back for all this extra work.

2178
01:45:59,060 --> 01:46:01,280
And we are huge with
what we're doing.

2179
01:46:01,280 --> 01:46:02,920
We have some of the best.

2180
01:46:02,920 --> 01:46:03,840
I tell them all the time.

2181
01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:06,000
Our department heads
are 1 in a million.

2182
01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:09,080
I mean, I don't want
them to go anywhere.

2183
01:46:09,080 --> 01:46:11,620
I don't feel like we're
not as competitive

2184
01:46:11,620 --> 01:46:13,460
as we could be with their pay.

2185
01:46:13,460 --> 01:46:17,960
So I'm back again wanting
to fight for this insurance.

2186
01:46:17,960 --> 01:46:19,920
And I've just learned
different things.

2187
01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:24,180
And to me, of all the things
that we could give them,

2188
01:46:24,180 --> 01:46:28,780
this was one of the most
economical but meaningful.

2189
01:46:28,780 --> 01:46:33,580
That would help a lot of
them in different situations.

2190
01:46:33,580 --> 01:46:36,580
I'm not sure of the
exact money, but how many

2191
01:46:36,580 --> 01:46:38,080
department heads do we have.

2192
01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:40,460
John, and how many department
heads do we have that

2193
01:46:40,460 --> 01:46:43,820
are even close to 20
years at this moment.

2194
01:46:43,820 --> 01:46:46,310
I think there are 10
department directors,

2195
01:46:46,310 --> 01:46:50,090
and we probably have
two or three that are.

2196
01:46:50,090 --> 01:46:52,150
Yeah so it's minimal.

2197
01:46:52,150 --> 01:46:53,750
It's absolutely minimal.

2198
01:46:53,750 --> 01:46:55,030
But it's meaningful.

2199
01:46:55,030 --> 01:46:56,410
So it's minimal.

2200
01:46:56,410 --> 01:46:59,810
It's minimal but
it's meaningful.

2201
01:46:59,810 --> 01:47:05,090
So I suggested it because
it's to provide health

2202
01:47:05,090 --> 01:47:07,450
and wellness longevity benefit.

2203
01:47:07,450 --> 01:47:10,770
That's what I want to
call it who have worked

2204
01:47:10,770 --> 01:47:13,410
here for over 20 years
securing the grants

2205
01:47:13,410 --> 01:47:15,450
and doing what they do.

2206
01:47:15,450 --> 01:47:20,810
So I really want y'all to think
a little bit more about this

2207
01:47:20,810 --> 01:47:24,010
and let's find out the cost.

2208
01:47:24,010 --> 01:47:27,450
It we'll get no cost this year.

2209
01:47:27,450 --> 01:47:28,150
Is that correct.

2210
01:47:28,150 --> 01:47:30,610
This won't affect
this budget this year.

2211
01:47:30,610 --> 01:47:34,930
No no it will not affect
the budget this year.

2212
01:47:34,930 --> 01:47:38,610
If for some reason things
change, you can always come back

2213
01:47:38,610 --> 01:47:39,510
and readdress this.

2214
01:47:39,510 --> 01:47:42,710
You hate to take things away,
but if the economy tanks,

2215
01:47:42,710 --> 01:47:44,990
then you have to do
what you have to do.

2216
01:47:44,990 --> 01:47:46,610
And then as far
as the employees,

2217
01:47:46,610 --> 01:47:48,870
and I'd be real excited
to hear what you

2218
01:47:48,870 --> 01:47:51,070
have to say of
something we could also

2219
01:47:51,070 --> 01:47:53,150
do for the general employees.

2220
01:47:53,150 --> 01:47:55,870
We have good people here.

2221
01:47:55,870 --> 01:47:57,370
I want to take care of them.

2222
01:47:57,370 --> 01:47:58,810
And you're right.

2223
01:47:58,810 --> 01:48:01,870
I was wrong to single out.

2224
01:48:01,870 --> 01:48:04,470
I was more or less thinking
about what our department heads

2225
01:48:04,470 --> 01:48:07,230
bring in, and that they
don't have the ability

2226
01:48:07,230 --> 01:48:08,490
to make extra money.

2227
01:48:08,490 --> 01:48:09,450
There is no time.

2228
01:48:09,450 --> 01:48:10,630
At the end of the day.

2229
01:48:10,630 --> 01:48:14,150
They've been here since some
of them o'clock this morning

2230
01:48:14,150 --> 01:48:15,550
and they're still here now.

2231
01:48:15,550 --> 01:48:16,530
This is what happens.

2232
01:48:16,530 --> 01:48:18,090
They don't get paid
any more for this.

2233
01:48:18,090 --> 01:48:20,830
They get paid X
amount of dollars.

2234
01:48:20,830 --> 01:48:22,170
That's the point
I'm trying to make.

2235
01:48:22,170 --> 01:48:24,190
I don't want to lose
them to another city

2236
01:48:24,190 --> 01:48:26,530
because they get more benefits.

2237
01:48:26,530 --> 01:48:27,270
I'm not.

2238
01:48:27,270 --> 01:48:30,310
And the residents, every
resident I've talked to that

2239
01:48:30,310 --> 01:48:32,030
has asked me about this.

2240
01:48:32,030 --> 01:48:35,270
They completely understand
as long as it doesn't

2241
01:48:35,270 --> 01:48:38,490
really affect them, they
understand and said,

2242
01:48:38,490 --> 01:48:39,810
well, that's nice.

2243
01:48:39,810 --> 01:48:41,290
I haven't had any.

2244
01:48:41,290 --> 01:48:44,650
I had one person who
told me, a person

2245
01:48:44,650 --> 01:48:47,030
who's not reasonable
to begin with told me,

2246
01:48:47,030 --> 01:48:51,630
oh, well, I still don't
like it, so I'm willing.

2247
01:48:51,630 --> 01:48:53,850
I mean, I really want
to keep this in here

2248
01:48:53,850 --> 01:48:55,690
for so many reasons.

2249
01:48:55,690 --> 01:49:00,690
Again, it's meaningful
but minimal cost.

2250
01:49:00,690 --> 01:49:05,450
So let's talk to see
what we can figure out.

2251
01:49:05,450 --> 01:49:06,830
Let's talk now, Sandy.

2252
01:49:06,830 --> 01:49:09,730
What you're thinking
for the employees.

2253
01:49:09,730 --> 01:49:11,310
What are you thinking
for the employees.

2254
01:49:11,310 --> 01:49:13,950
Is there a way that we can
work this out where again,

2255
01:49:13,950 --> 01:49:17,490
it's minimal to our budget.

2256
01:49:17,490 --> 01:49:21,010
Well, like I say, the total for
this year, if we were to do it

2257
01:49:21,010 --> 01:49:22,150
and go forward with it.

2258
01:49:22,150 --> 01:49:27,210
But I really don't think this is
the year to do it with November

2259
01:49:27,210 --> 01:49:28,590
hanging on us right now.

2260
01:49:28,590 --> 01:49:33,430
As much as I want to do it,
the total would be 66 5565.

2261
01:49:33,430 --> 01:49:33,950
I'm sorry.

2262
01:49:33,950 --> 01:49:36,890
Yeah, 66,006 58.

2263
01:49:36,890 --> 01:49:39,170
What this does is it
puts this in there

2264
01:49:39,170 --> 01:49:41,420
and it gives them like
I said in December,

2265
01:49:41,420 --> 01:49:46,720
it gives them like a bonus
and all it is deprived of $50

2266
01:49:46,720 --> 01:49:50,400
a month for everything.

2267
01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:52,860
Is that all employees or is it.

2268
01:49:52,860 --> 01:49:56,480
Yeah, that would be employees or
employees or department heads,

2269
01:49:56,480 --> 01:49:57,620
not Department heads.

2270
01:49:57,620 --> 01:50:00,080
Every employee.

2271
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:02,300
Everybody includes
department heads.

2272
01:50:02,300 --> 01:50:04,440
Every employee.

2273
01:50:04,440 --> 01:50:10,080
And what it does is
the first five years

2274
01:50:10,080 --> 01:50:12,760
would be a payment of $250.

2275
01:50:12,760 --> 01:50:15,160
They've been here.

2276
01:50:15,160 --> 01:50:18,400
Yeah the first five years
or after five years,

2277
01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:20,520
the employee with
five years of service

2278
01:50:20,520 --> 01:50:23,600
would receive $250 at December.

2279
01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:28,140
And then it goes each
year after that at $50,

2280
01:50:28,140 --> 01:50:30,560
all the way up to
20 years, where they

2281
01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:33,440
would be eligible for $1,000.

2282
01:50:33,440 --> 01:50:37,380
And this turns
out to be a bonus,

2283
01:50:37,380 --> 01:50:39,100
but it gives them an incentive.

2284
01:50:39,100 --> 01:50:43,280
What I can do is bring it
to you at your next meeting.

2285
01:50:43,280 --> 01:50:45,420
We're going to be
doing a budget,

2286
01:50:45,420 --> 01:50:49,240
and I can give you the effect on
if you want to do it this year,

2287
01:50:49,240 --> 01:50:51,980
I'll give you the effect
on this year's budget.

2288
01:50:51,980 --> 01:50:54,940
And then you can
at that meeting,

2289
01:50:54,940 --> 01:50:59,940
I'll give you the whole plan
that he's been working on

2290
01:50:59,940 --> 01:51:01,860
and present it to
you the next meeting

2291
01:51:01,860 --> 01:51:06,180
and show you what the impact
of the two things are.

2292
01:51:06,180 --> 01:51:12,060
Well, and I just see
right here in this email

2293
01:51:12,060 --> 01:51:15,860
that we got director's health
proposal isn't with no impact

2294
01:51:15,860 --> 01:51:19,020
on city administrator
recommended budget and no impact

2295
01:51:19,020 --> 01:51:21,640
on the millage
there for this year.

2296
01:51:21,640 --> 01:51:23,220
For this year.

2297
01:51:23,220 --> 01:51:25,520
We discuss it next year,
but it has to go away.

2298
01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:26,440
It goes away.

2299
01:51:26,440 --> 01:51:32,060
I mean, at the following year
and again, then we could also

2300
01:51:32,060 --> 01:51:35,860
talk about what you would like
for the rest of the city staff

2301
01:51:35,860 --> 01:51:36,360
there.

2302
01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:39,360
I think this is a great
incentive for directors who

2303
01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:41,640
are here for that
extra work that they do

2304
01:51:41,640 --> 01:51:44,640
that now keeps directors in
a nice, great administrative

2305
01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:45,260
position.

2306
01:51:45,260 --> 01:51:47,920
We continue to get all the
wonderful things they do

2307
01:51:47,920 --> 01:51:50,960
that these not JustGrants,
but a lot of things

2308
01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:52,120
that are done here.

2309
01:51:52,120 --> 01:51:53,520
But at the same
time, I'd still like

2310
01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:56,640
to come because we do give
raises to our staff members

2311
01:51:56,640 --> 01:51:57,920
each year.

2312
01:51:57,920 --> 01:51:59,600
But what other incentives.

2313
01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:01,560
Yeah, that's right,
that's right.

2314
01:52:01,560 --> 01:52:04,400
But it's usually pretty good.

2315
01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:09,120
And to see what we can do to
make it even better is Cola.

2316
01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:11,020
That's the cost of living.

2317
01:52:11,020 --> 01:52:12,180
I mean, it doesn't make sense.

2318
01:52:12,180 --> 01:52:14,220
Yeah, but I've had
others say, well,

2319
01:52:14,220 --> 01:52:16,040
you're giving your
staff that much where

2320
01:52:16,040 --> 01:52:18,120
others not even given the Cola.

2321
01:52:18,120 --> 01:52:18,773
So anyways.

2322
01:52:18,773 --> 01:52:19,740
But that's besides the point.

2323
01:52:19,740 --> 01:52:22,600
What I'm saying is
that we can come up

2324
01:52:22,600 --> 01:52:26,760
with something, some incentives
for the rest of the staff

2325
01:52:26,760 --> 01:52:27,800
as well.

2326
01:52:27,800 --> 01:52:30,940
Well, before y'all
say no to any of this,

2327
01:52:30,940 --> 01:52:33,520
I would really like
for John to bring

2328
01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:37,730
us back something to give us an
idea of what the cost will be.

2329
01:52:37,730 --> 01:52:39,130
I Sandy, you figured it out.

2330
01:52:39,130 --> 01:52:40,270
I want to hear from John.

2331
01:52:40,270 --> 01:52:41,470
We started it.

2332
01:52:41,470 --> 01:52:42,570
They figured it out.

2333
01:52:42,570 --> 01:52:44,810
OK, well, they
figured that much out,

2334
01:52:44,810 --> 01:52:46,910
but I want to know about this.

2335
01:52:46,910 --> 01:52:50,530
For the directors,
the insurance.

2336
01:52:50,530 --> 01:52:51,650
I still want to know about it.

2337
01:52:51,650 --> 01:52:53,370
I haven't seen
the exact figures.

2338
01:52:53,370 --> 01:52:55,190
I'd like to know
the expectations

2339
01:52:55,190 --> 01:52:56,730
of where it would take us.

2340
01:52:56,730 --> 01:52:58,490
And again, you can
always go back.

2341
01:52:58,490 --> 01:53:00,450
And if it has to go
away, it has to go away.

2342
01:53:00,450 --> 01:53:02,270
If you get in tight
times, I think

2343
01:53:02,270 --> 01:53:08,210
everyone, when you're in your
home and times get tight,

2344
01:53:08,210 --> 01:53:09,130
things go away.

2345
01:53:09,130 --> 01:53:13,850
You do away with Netflix
or do you make adjustments,

2346
01:53:13,850 --> 01:53:16,970
and I feel like and
I don't want to live.

2347
01:53:16,970 --> 01:53:19,230
I've never been one to live.

2348
01:53:19,230 --> 01:53:22,070
And this is because
I'm not like y'all.

2349
01:53:22,070 --> 01:53:24,990
I'm not going to oh, we better
not spend any money because we

2350
01:53:24,990 --> 01:53:28,790
might have a hurricane or we
better not spend any money

2351
01:53:28,790 --> 01:53:30,250
because we might get a flood.

2352
01:53:30,250 --> 01:53:32,150
I mean, I just
can't live that way.

2353
01:53:32,150 --> 01:53:35,290
We'll make the adjustment
if this happens and if this

2354
01:53:35,290 --> 01:53:37,250
happens, I don't
know how they think

2355
01:53:37,250 --> 01:53:39,790
we're supposed to figure it out,
but I guarantee you we will.

2356
01:53:39,790 --> 01:53:40,510
One way or another.

2357
01:53:40,510 --> 01:53:43,530
We've figured out
worse times than to me

2358
01:53:43,530 --> 01:53:46,830
than you saying about
the property taxes,

2359
01:53:46,830 --> 01:53:50,110
I mean, 2029 or when was that.

2360
01:53:50,110 --> 01:53:52,770
I mean, those were
horrible, horrible years.

2361
01:53:52,770 --> 01:53:55,230
Every other house was
being foreclosed on.

2362
01:53:55,230 --> 01:53:56,270
People were homeless.

2363
01:53:56,270 --> 01:53:57,870
I mean, it was really sad times.

2364
01:53:57,870 --> 01:53:59,830
And somehow the city
made it through.

2365
01:53:59,830 --> 01:54:04,430
And I have complete confidence
that we will see through again.

2366
01:54:04,430 --> 01:54:06,830
We have Walter, the
number cruncher here,

2367
01:54:06,830 --> 01:54:10,430
who will make sure that if
something needs to go away,

2368
01:54:10,430 --> 01:54:11,430
it will go away.

2369
01:54:11,430 --> 01:54:12,790
There's no doubt about that.

2370
01:54:12,790 --> 01:54:14,970
And I wouldn't vote
to keep something

2371
01:54:14,970 --> 01:54:17,730
that we couldn't make work.

2372
01:54:17,730 --> 01:54:21,450
I wouldn't but this
just seems so workable.

2373
01:54:21,450 --> 01:54:24,210
And, Sandy, even what you're
saying, that seems fair.

2374
01:54:24,210 --> 01:54:26,290
That seems very fair to do.

2375
01:54:26,290 --> 01:54:28,030
But I'm not so
sure I'd want that.

2376
01:54:28,030 --> 01:54:31,950
I mean, I don't think
the directors need both,

2377
01:54:31,950 --> 01:54:33,670
I would rather divide it up.

2378
01:54:33,670 --> 01:54:37,390
I'm more interested in trying
to keep my directors here for 20

2379
01:54:37,390 --> 01:54:39,330
years because they're good.

2380
01:54:39,330 --> 01:54:41,610
They bring in money,
they're familiar,

2381
01:54:41,610 --> 01:54:45,550
they get things done, they know
where not to waste their time,

2382
01:54:45,550 --> 01:54:46,930
where to put their efforts.

2383
01:54:46,930 --> 01:54:48,830
They find us money.

2384
01:54:48,830 --> 01:54:50,410
I don't think, but.

2385
01:54:50,410 --> 01:54:53,370
But the employees would
much more the employees,

2386
01:54:53,370 --> 01:54:54,370
not the directors.

2387
01:54:54,370 --> 01:54:55,370
Let's divide that up.

2388
01:54:55,370 --> 01:54:57,410
Now we have employees
and we have directors.

2389
01:54:57,410 --> 01:54:59,390
I know they're all
employees, but just

2390
01:54:59,390 --> 01:55:03,310
for the sake of conversation,
I would like to divide that up

2391
01:55:03,310 --> 01:55:05,710
and say our directors,
I think, would

2392
01:55:05,710 --> 01:55:11,530
appreciate more having
that insurance at the end,

2393
01:55:11,530 --> 01:55:13,150
I really do.

2394
01:55:13,150 --> 01:55:17,170
I'm finding with Meta, whatever
you call that stuff right now.

2395
01:55:17,170 --> 01:55:19,850
So I just told my age
and it's horrible.

2396
01:55:19,850 --> 01:55:21,570
I've never had so
many deductibles,

2397
01:55:21,570 --> 01:55:24,170
and I have all these different
parts that everybody said,

2398
01:55:24,170 --> 01:55:28,330
I pay more for insurance
than if I had a city policy.

2399
01:55:28,330 --> 01:55:31,160
I pay more this matter.

2400
01:55:31,160 --> 01:55:31,960
Something or other.

2401
01:55:31,960 --> 01:55:33,560
You gotta get one for pharmacy.

2402
01:55:33,560 --> 01:55:35,480
You have to get one
a different plan.

2403
01:55:35,480 --> 01:55:36,560
You need this plan you need.

2404
01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:38,320
That gives me a headache.

2405
01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:41,060
But anyway, can I make a couple.

2406
01:55:41,060 --> 01:55:43,980
You make.

2407
01:55:43,980 --> 01:55:50,060
OK let's see.

2408
01:55:50,060 --> 01:55:53,260
As far as Sandy's plan, I
don't think I'd want to look

2409
01:55:53,260 --> 01:55:55,320
at that this year again.

2410
01:55:55,320 --> 01:55:57,820
For the same reason.

2411
01:55:57,820 --> 01:55:59,700
We don't know what's
happening in November

2412
01:55:59,700 --> 01:56:01,340
with the property tax thing.

2413
01:56:01,340 --> 01:56:04,940
If it's fine and we still
have a budget next year,

2414
01:56:04,940 --> 01:56:06,780
let's take a look at it then.

2415
01:56:06,780 --> 01:56:10,900
As I was against the extending
the health insurance for

2416
01:56:10,900 --> 01:56:12,560
the directors for five years.

2417
01:56:12,560 --> 01:56:14,900
I was a no on that
from the beginning.

2418
01:56:14,900 --> 01:56:17,060
And I too have
received several phone

2419
01:56:17,060 --> 01:56:22,420
calls this week from Citizens
saying, no, no, no, no, no.

2420
01:56:22,420 --> 01:56:26,780
The problem is, if our
department heads were CEOs

2421
01:56:26,780 --> 01:56:28,480
of their own
corporations, and they

2422
01:56:28,480 --> 01:56:31,480
wanted to arrange for their
own golden parachutes.

2423
01:56:31,480 --> 01:56:33,280
For their retirement.

2424
01:56:33,280 --> 01:56:35,360
Great fantastic.

2425
01:56:35,360 --> 01:56:39,360
But as far as the taxpayers
paying for additional.

2426
01:56:39,360 --> 01:56:43,280
Health care for
insurance, for directors.

2427
01:56:43,280 --> 01:56:46,560
No, I don't think
that's a taxpayer thing.

2428
01:56:46,560 --> 01:56:48,880
So I would still be a
no on doing the five

2429
01:56:48,880 --> 01:56:50,340
year extended health care.

2430
01:56:50,340 --> 01:56:54,060
Plus, if they retire
before age 65,

2431
01:56:54,060 --> 01:56:56,840
they can still continue
to buy insurance

2432
01:56:56,840 --> 01:56:58,340
through the city at that rate.

2433
01:56:58,340 --> 01:56:59,480
Is that correct.

2434
01:56:59,480 --> 01:57:01,280
She's gone up.

2435
01:57:01,280 --> 01:57:04,100
Or they can switch to Medicare
once they're at that age.

2436
01:57:04,100 --> 01:57:05,660
But I can answer that.

2437
01:57:05,660 --> 01:57:07,860
I'm still the answer
is yes, but keep going.

2438
01:57:07,860 --> 01:57:12,480
So I'm still against that.

2439
01:57:12,480 --> 01:57:19,160
I do, though, after hearing
about the potential economic

2440
01:57:19,160 --> 01:57:24,200
impact of the rails
program that councilman

2441
01:57:24,200 --> 01:57:25,500
Bernier has brought up.

2442
01:57:25,500 --> 01:57:28,820
I'm still in favor of going
ahead with that event.

2443
01:57:28,820 --> 01:57:33,460
I think the benefit to the
hotels, the restaurants

2444
01:57:33,460 --> 01:57:36,300
and everything else
around here will way

2445
01:57:36,300 --> 01:57:38,340
come in way more than 50 grand.

2446
01:57:38,340 --> 01:57:39,940
I think it's a good
return on the investment

2447
01:57:39,940 --> 01:57:42,420
for that particular event.

2448
01:57:42,420 --> 01:57:44,260
You want to get the steam
train here for four days.

2449
01:57:44,260 --> 01:57:46,260
I think that's going to bring
a lot of people into town just

2450
01:57:46,260 --> 01:57:48,300
to want to see that,
if nothing else.

2451
01:57:48,300 --> 01:57:53,040
So I'm still a no on
the health insurance,

2452
01:57:53,040 --> 01:57:54,720
and I don't want to
start with either.

2453
01:57:54,720 --> 01:57:56,620
Any other new plans
right now, because I'm

2454
01:57:56,620 --> 01:58:01,000
very concerned about November 3
and the property tax Amendment.

2455
01:58:01,000 --> 01:58:03,940


2456
01:58:03,940 --> 01:58:05,740
Anyone else.

2457
01:58:05,740 --> 01:58:08,360
Just as a point of
clarification, Bob,

2458
01:58:08,360 --> 01:58:10,880
I am not against the
rails and rifles.

2459
01:58:10,880 --> 01:58:14,100
I'm just against the
way the funding is.

2460
01:58:14,100 --> 01:58:17,580
OK I still think the chamber
could get involved and help

2461
01:58:17,580 --> 01:58:21,580
with the funding,
but to youth for them

2462
01:58:21,580 --> 01:58:23,060
way out of their league.

2463
01:58:23,060 --> 01:58:26,030
Well, way hey, they used
to do more than that.

2464
01:58:26,030 --> 01:58:27,550
Way out of their league.

2465
01:58:27,550 --> 01:58:28,290
I'm sorry.

2466
01:58:28,290 --> 01:58:32,730
Yeah OK, well, can
we at least have

2467
01:58:32,730 --> 01:58:35,610
Mr. Drury bring
back the information

2468
01:58:35,610 --> 01:58:38,430
that I'd like to see or.

2469
01:58:38,430 --> 01:58:40,370
And I'd also like to
see the information

2470
01:58:40,370 --> 01:58:42,970
for the Department heads
if we brought them up

2471
01:58:42,970 --> 01:58:45,430
to a more competitive salary.

2472
01:58:45,430 --> 01:58:48,610
How much would that cost.

2473
01:58:48,610 --> 01:58:52,010
So I want to see
what comes out of.

2474
01:58:52,010 --> 01:59:00,330
The thing to understand is, I
think also is that the military.

2475
01:59:00,330 --> 01:59:05,810
Has to be approved by all
five, I think for four.

2476
01:59:05,810 --> 01:59:07,810
Yeah OK.

2477
01:59:07,810 --> 01:59:12,250
So the 6.95 was the original.

2478
01:59:12,250 --> 01:59:20,770
And from what I'm seeing now
it's Yes And so got to make sure

2479
01:59:20,770 --> 01:59:25,550
we can justify that difference.

2480
01:59:25,550 --> 01:59:28,190
Well, could still
go down a little

2481
01:59:28,190 --> 01:59:30,030
depending upon
when we get actual.

2482
01:59:30,030 --> 01:59:32,850
Yeah, our costs will be
in probably in two weeks.

2483
01:59:32,850 --> 01:59:34,610
Yeah we'll have the
updated numbers.

2484
01:59:34,610 --> 01:59:36,350
It could be worse.

2485
01:59:36,350 --> 01:59:37,810
Yeah, well, but it
could be better.

2486
01:59:37,810 --> 01:59:40,150
I like your positive attitude.

2487
01:59:40,150 --> 01:59:42,310
Yeah, it could be better.

2488
01:59:42,310 --> 01:59:43,710
Well, you're lowering
the tentative

2489
01:59:43,710 --> 01:59:45,970
from 7.2 down to 6.9 right now.

2490
01:59:45,970 --> 01:59:47,630
And if we can get
it lower, we will.

2491
01:59:47,630 --> 01:59:48,390
There you go.

2492
01:59:48,390 --> 01:59:51,570
All right.

2493
01:59:51,570 --> 01:59:53,630
That's all I got on that.

2494
01:59:53,630 --> 01:59:55,810
So what are we asking.

2495
01:59:55,810 --> 01:59:58,590
So I think what I'm going
to do, what I'm going to do

2496
01:59:58,590 --> 02:00:02,670
is leave the budget the way it
is with no under these changes

2497
02:00:02,670 --> 02:00:05,890
that we heard today, we're going
to bring it forward to you.

2498
02:00:05,890 --> 02:00:07,310
And in the meantime,
I'm going to put

2499
02:00:07,310 --> 02:00:10,830
together more information
on the two proposals

2500
02:00:10,830 --> 02:00:12,510
and the fiscal impact.

2501
02:00:12,510 --> 02:00:14,190
And I will get that all
to you, and you'll have

2502
02:00:14,190 --> 02:00:15,710
it before the next meeting.

2503
02:00:15,710 --> 02:00:17,430
And then you can either
say, we're putting it in

2504
02:00:17,430 --> 02:00:19,350
or we're not putting it in.

2505
02:00:19,350 --> 02:00:21,330
Is that fair with everyone.

2506
02:00:21,330 --> 02:00:25,010
Absolutely I don't mind
looking at actual numbers.

2507
02:00:25,010 --> 02:00:27,170
Yeah, I'll get it to you.

2508
02:00:27,170 --> 02:00:29,490
What was the thing that we said.

2509
02:00:29,490 --> 02:00:33,310
The data that those
data buildings.

2510
02:00:33,310 --> 02:00:36,430
So we're going to allow Mr.
Drury to put together the data.

2511
02:00:36,430 --> 02:00:39,570
Yes the data pull up.

2512
02:00:39,570 --> 02:00:40,710
You will have the data.

2513
02:00:40,710 --> 02:00:44,130


2514
02:00:44,130 --> 02:00:45,030
All right.

2515
02:00:45,030 --> 02:00:49,150
So what else do we
need to talk about.

2516
02:00:49,150 --> 02:00:50,150
Budget anything.

2517
02:00:50,150 --> 02:00:51,110
No, I think we're good.

2518
02:00:51,110 --> 02:00:56,370
We're going to put together
the resolutions, the budget.

2519
02:00:56,370 --> 02:00:59,970
I'll give you the
data and then you'll

2520
02:00:59,970 --> 02:01:04,050
make a final decision,
a semi-final decision

2521
02:01:04,050 --> 02:01:05,230
at your September meeting.

2522
02:01:05,230 --> 02:01:07,170
And then you'll make
a final decision

2523
02:01:07,170 --> 02:01:09,530
at your two September meeting.

2524
02:01:09,530 --> 02:01:10,690
And that's where it all.

2525
02:01:10,690 --> 02:01:12,390
That's where the rubber comes.

2526
02:01:12,390 --> 02:01:15,290
The rubber hits the road.

2527
02:01:15,290 --> 02:01:16,090
All right.

2528
02:01:16,090 --> 02:01:17,110
Perfect OK.

2529
02:01:17,110 --> 02:01:19,720
We're going to move on
to New business council.

2530
02:01:19,720 --> 02:01:25,040
Any new business about
any old business.

2531
02:01:25,040 --> 02:01:27,320
About new old business.

2532
02:01:27,320 --> 02:01:29,040
New old business in between.

2533
02:01:29,040 --> 02:01:31,960
Normally she has the
new old business.

2534
02:01:31,960 --> 02:01:35,620
But I just have been a
hard couple of weeks.

2535
02:01:35,620 --> 02:01:38,460
I have my thought process
has been elsewhere,

2536
02:01:38,460 --> 02:01:39,720
to be honest with you.

2537
02:01:39,720 --> 02:01:44,400
OK we're going to go to
audience to be heard.

2538
02:01:44,400 --> 02:01:47,360
I guess our only choice Mr.
Santoro, you and your wife

2539
02:01:47,360 --> 02:01:48,200
are it.

2540
02:01:48,200 --> 02:01:51,700
And we appreciate you
staying for all of this.

2541
02:01:51,700 --> 02:01:54,240
Yeah, right down to the end.

2542
02:01:54,240 --> 02:01:58,980
Mayor and members of
council Mr. Drury.

2543
02:01:58,980 --> 02:02:02,400
City staff MS Holt, Gary
Santoro, Royal harbor.

2544
02:02:02,400 --> 02:02:05,360
First and foremost,
I'm a proactive person.

2545
02:02:05,360 --> 02:02:08,060
When I brought to you
about the property on 448,

2546
02:02:08,060 --> 02:02:09,880
it was not because
I wanted to see

2547
02:02:09,880 --> 02:02:12,980
the data processes out there.

2548
02:02:12,980 --> 02:02:16,520
I'm concerned what's
going to happen out there.

2549
02:02:16,520 --> 02:02:18,360
We ought to be proactive
on what we're going to do.

2550
02:02:18,360 --> 02:02:21,320
If you go back into the minutes,
maybe three, four years ago,

2551
02:02:21,320 --> 02:02:24,060
I brought before this council,
the city ought to consider

2552
02:02:24,060 --> 02:02:26,300
buying a sliver of
property out there to put

2553
02:02:26,300 --> 02:02:28,900
a remote pumping
station, because the way

2554
02:02:28,900 --> 02:02:31,420
they're building out
there, and I don't want

2555
02:02:31,420 --> 02:02:33,940
to speak for his department,
it's got to reach

2556
02:02:33,940 --> 02:02:35,460
its maximum sooner or later.

2557
02:02:35,460 --> 02:02:36,780
And what's going to happen.

2558
02:02:36,780 --> 02:02:40,900
So that's my concern is what's
going to happen out there.

2559
02:02:40,900 --> 02:02:43,180
I agonize with you
on your discussion

2560
02:02:43,180 --> 02:02:45,280
on the salaries and
stuff like that.

2561
02:02:45,280 --> 02:02:48,180
God knows I've sat through
them and there's nothing

2562
02:02:48,180 --> 02:02:50,820
more demoralizing than sitting
in their seat listening

2563
02:02:50,820 --> 02:02:52,120
to what you have to say.

2564
02:02:52,120 --> 02:02:55,220
Whether they're worth it or not
has nothing to do with that's

2565
02:02:55,220 --> 02:02:56,060
what it is.

2566
02:02:56,060 --> 02:02:57,400
But that's the perception.

2567
02:02:57,400 --> 02:03:00,620
And I can say that because
I sat in their seat

2568
02:03:00,620 --> 02:03:02,520
and I went through
it for 25 years,

2569
02:03:02,520 --> 02:03:05,280
I listened to that
during budget season.

2570
02:03:05,280 --> 02:03:09,340
So I understand you have to
look out for the constituents.

2571
02:03:09,340 --> 02:03:10,820
But I can also
tell you, I've sat

2572
02:03:10,820 --> 02:03:13,200
in this audience where I've
heard people say, don't do this,

2573
02:03:13,200 --> 02:03:14,200
don't do that.

2574
02:03:14,200 --> 02:03:16,220
And those people have
moved out of Tavares.

2575
02:03:16,220 --> 02:03:17,480
Guess what.

2576
02:03:17,480 --> 02:03:20,940
I'm still here and I
still support this city.

2577
02:03:20,940 --> 02:03:23,400
And I'll pay whatever you
want because I understand

2578
02:03:23,400 --> 02:03:25,400
where it's coming from.

2579
02:03:25,400 --> 02:03:27,600
And the last thing I
want to leave you with

2580
02:03:27,600 --> 02:03:29,300
is I got something from this.

2581
02:03:29,300 --> 02:03:33,440
This from somebody in
this room many years ago.

2582
02:03:33,440 --> 02:03:36,240
Have a lot of admiration
for this person.

2583
02:03:36,240 --> 02:03:39,520
Vision without implementation
is an illusion.

2584
02:03:39,520 --> 02:03:41,600
Is that not right, Mr. drury?

2585
02:03:41,600 --> 02:03:46,020
Yep continue the vision that
the city has been going.

2586
02:03:46,020 --> 02:03:47,760
It's working.

2587
02:03:47,760 --> 02:03:50,080
Yeah it may cost us
a few more dollars,

2588
02:03:50,080 --> 02:03:52,200
but look at what it's got us.

2589
02:03:52,200 --> 02:03:54,240
Thank you very much.

2590
02:03:54,240 --> 02:03:57,220
Thank you, Mr.
Santoro MS Santoro.

2591
02:03:57,220 --> 02:03:59,760
Would you like to come up.

2592
02:03:59,760 --> 02:04:01,540
All right.

2593
02:04:01,540 --> 02:04:03,800
He's the spokesperson.

2594
02:04:03,800 --> 02:04:06,580
All right, so I guess
we're going to close.

2595
02:04:06,580 --> 02:04:09,280
Audience to be heard, Mr. Drury.

2596
02:04:09,280 --> 02:04:13,360
I guess I want to first of
all, congratulate the mayor

2597
02:04:13,360 --> 02:04:16,870
for being re-elected unopposed.

2598
02:04:16,870 --> 02:04:18,790
Congratulations on that.

2599
02:04:18,790 --> 02:04:21,790
Vice mayor re-elected unopposed.

2600
02:04:21,790 --> 02:04:24,430
Congratulations on that.

2601
02:04:24,430 --> 02:04:27,170
Walter price has qualified.

2602
02:04:27,170 --> 02:04:30,590
Congratulations on that.

2603
02:04:30,590 --> 02:04:36,430
And with that, I will just
ask that the clerk read

2604
02:04:36,430 --> 02:04:42,990
into the record the formal thing
that occurred in your office

2605
02:04:42,990 --> 02:04:44,070
recently.

2606
02:04:44,070 --> 02:04:46,150
Thank you, Mr. Drury.

2607
02:04:46,150 --> 02:04:52,030
Qualifying closed on
August 17 because the 15th

2608
02:04:52,030 --> 02:04:54,743
was on a Saturday
at o'clock o'clock

2609
02:04:54,743 --> 02:04:55,710
o'clock o'clock o'clock noon.

2610
02:04:55,710 --> 02:05:00,590
And the following people
are fully qualified.

2611
02:05:00,590 --> 02:05:01,370
Seat one.

2612
02:05:01,370 --> 02:05:04,510
Bob Grenier is a qualified
incumbent with no opposition

2613
02:05:04,510 --> 02:05:06,450
for Tavares city
council seat one,

2614
02:05:06,450 --> 02:05:08,670
and will not be
placed on the ballot

2615
02:05:08,670 --> 02:05:11,230
and is elected
without opposition.

2616
02:05:11,230 --> 02:05:12,530
Seat three.

2617
02:05:12,530 --> 02:05:16,450
Amir Asghar and Walter
price have qualified

2618
02:05:16,450 --> 02:05:19,550
and will be placed on
the ballot and seat five.

2619
02:05:19,550 --> 02:05:22,970
Lawrie foster is a qualified
incumbent with no opposition

2620
02:05:22,970 --> 02:05:24,310
for Tavares city council.

2621
02:05:24,310 --> 02:05:26,970
Seat 5 will not be
placed on the ballot

2622
02:05:26,970 --> 02:05:29,650
and is elected
without opposition.

2623
02:05:29,650 --> 02:05:33,590
Congratulations Thank
you, thank you, thank you.

2624
02:05:33,590 --> 02:05:37,390
Susie is that all
you have to say.

2625
02:05:37,390 --> 02:05:38,310
Sorry back to you.

2626
02:05:38,310 --> 02:05:41,330
OK, Chief.

2627
02:05:41,330 --> 02:05:42,710
I have nothing to report, Mayor.

2628
02:05:42,710 --> 02:05:45,330
Thank you, Mr. tweedy.

2629
02:05:45,330 --> 02:05:46,530
Nothing further this evening.

2630
02:05:46,530 --> 02:05:47,030
Thank you.

2631
02:05:47,030 --> 02:05:52,470
Mayor Mr. O'Keefe, as we look
outside and see the dark skies,

2632
02:05:52,470 --> 02:05:55,330
the National Weather Service
has just issued a severe weather

2633
02:05:55,330 --> 02:05:57,490
statement for Tavares.

2634
02:05:57,490 --> 02:06:02,490
So, are you telling
me to hurry up.

2635
02:06:02,490 --> 02:06:03,350
I think he is.

2636
02:06:03,350 --> 02:06:04,950
Hang on to your
hat as you leave.

2637
02:06:04,950 --> 02:06:07,650


2638
02:06:07,650 --> 02:06:08,550
Nothing further.

2639
02:06:08,550 --> 02:06:09,390
Mayor, thank you.

2640
02:06:09,390 --> 02:06:15,590


2641
02:06:15,590 --> 02:06:16,950
They're looking at the clouds.

2642
02:06:16,950 --> 02:06:18,590
I'm just looking at everybody.

2643
02:06:18,590 --> 02:06:22,470
Scott nothing to miss Houghton.

2644
02:06:22,470 --> 02:06:24,950
Thank you.

2645
02:06:24,950 --> 02:06:28,150
Antonio thank you.

2646
02:06:28,150 --> 02:06:28,730
No report.

2647
02:06:28,730 --> 02:06:30,990
Mayor, thank you.

2648
02:06:30,990 --> 02:06:33,270
Couple of things.

2649
02:06:33,270 --> 02:06:34,930
The retention pond.

2650
02:06:34,930 --> 02:06:36,090
The park going on.

2651
02:06:36,090 --> 02:06:38,030
ST Clair is moving along.

2652
02:06:38,030 --> 02:06:38,850
That's good.

2653
02:06:38,850 --> 02:06:41,310
And I've had contacts
with individuals

2654
02:06:41,310 --> 02:06:44,883
from Lake Francis there, and
they're asking questions.

2655
02:06:44,883 --> 02:06:46,250
And I've told them
and they're like, wow,

2656
02:06:46,250 --> 02:06:50,830
that'd be great to get rid of
some of that water over there.

2657
02:06:50,830 --> 02:06:54,430
Those that are into
sports, little League

2658
02:06:54,430 --> 02:06:58,830
World Series baseball is
going on as we speak now.

2659
02:06:58,830 --> 02:07:01,490
Alabama was playing whenever
I left to come here,

2660
02:07:01,490 --> 02:07:04,910
and I recorded it so I
could watch it later.

2661
02:07:04,910 --> 02:07:08,180
But also.

2662
02:07:08,180 --> 02:07:13,080
Arch of various police
department has been conducting.

2663
02:07:13,080 --> 02:07:15,660


2664
02:07:15,660 --> 02:07:17,140
What do you want to say.

2665
02:07:17,140 --> 02:07:22,560
Speed control on ST Clair Abrams
in the morning and afternoons.

2666
02:07:22,560 --> 02:07:26,780
And I appreciate
their attendance

2667
02:07:26,780 --> 02:07:31,900
as I was there speaking with one
of the officers. there he goes.

2668
02:07:31,900 --> 02:07:34,620
Because somebody going through
there about 25 miles an hour

2669
02:07:34,620 --> 02:07:36,260
and I'm like, oh, no.

2670
02:07:36,260 --> 02:07:38,480
But the thing that I
understand at the time,

2671
02:07:38,480 --> 02:07:41,500
they were just issuing
warnings to slow down

2672
02:07:41,500 --> 02:07:43,260
that school has started back.

2673
02:07:43,260 --> 02:07:45,940
And also we've
received, I'm sure you

2674
02:07:45,940 --> 02:07:48,740
have some emails
from some residents

2675
02:07:48,740 --> 02:07:51,340
about the traffic and things.

2676
02:07:51,340 --> 02:07:53,980
And as I was telling
our chief, this

2677
02:07:53,980 --> 02:07:56,100
is something that's been
going on since she was

2678
02:07:56,100 --> 02:08:04,400
in elementary school and that
we've had traffic every year,

2679
02:08:04,400 --> 02:08:06,520
the first two weeks of
school, and sometimes it

2680
02:08:06,520 --> 02:08:08,040
runs into the third.

2681
02:08:08,040 --> 02:08:09,920
But by the time the
parents get to the place

2682
02:08:09,920 --> 02:08:13,040
where they feel confident that
their children can ride the bus

2683
02:08:13,040 --> 02:08:15,660
or walk or something
of that nature there,

2684
02:08:15,660 --> 02:08:18,560
then the traffic dies down
and it's back to normal.

2685
02:08:18,560 --> 02:08:20,480
But our police
department has been

2686
02:08:20,480 --> 02:08:24,000
doing a great job there,
overseeing that and trying

2687
02:08:24,000 --> 02:08:25,760
to ensure the safety.

2688
02:08:25,760 --> 02:08:31,360
And as I mentioned
earlier, I'm maybe

2689
02:08:31,360 --> 02:08:33,180
here tonight and gone tomorrow.

2690
02:08:33,180 --> 02:08:37,360
I don't because of my situation
with my wife's oldest sister,

2691
02:08:37,360 --> 02:08:43,240
but if we have to go, I plan to
be back before the next council

2692
02:08:43,240 --> 02:08:44,000
meeting.

2693
02:08:44,000 --> 02:08:49,200
But just be in prayer
for us for safe journey,

2694
02:08:49,200 --> 02:08:52,440
because you never know what we
saw so many accidents happening

2695
02:08:52,440 --> 02:08:56,400
as we were coming back from
Tennessee a couple weeks ago,

2696
02:08:56,400 --> 02:08:58,700
and one was real severe.

2697
02:08:58,700 --> 02:09:02,320
It had the whole I-95
intersection, all four lanes

2698
02:09:02,320 --> 02:09:07,620
tied up, one car on the
side, so be safe out there

2699
02:09:07,620 --> 02:09:10,860
and please observe
the school zones.

2700
02:09:10,860 --> 02:09:12,760
Be safe there in
the school zones.

2701
02:09:12,760 --> 02:09:15,300
Thank you.

2702
02:09:15,300 --> 02:09:16,060
All right.

2703
02:09:16,060 --> 02:09:17,700
A couple quick things.

2704
02:09:17,700 --> 02:09:20,460
I think I know we kind of
touched on the Florida league

2705
02:09:20,460 --> 02:09:22,740
of cities, but I think there was
some good information put out

2706
02:09:22,740 --> 02:09:23,240
there.

2707
02:09:23,240 --> 02:09:25,787
I know I learned a lot of
things during that time.

2708
02:09:25,787 --> 02:09:27,020
So I appreciate the
opportunity to go

2709
02:09:27,020 --> 02:09:30,520
and hopefully I can bring some
of those back Mr. Santoli,

2710
02:09:30,520 --> 02:09:32,540
I appreciate what you said.

2711
02:09:32,540 --> 02:09:35,820
I see your perspective
without a doubt.

2712
02:09:35,820 --> 02:09:39,220
I think it's a tough situation.

2713
02:09:39,220 --> 02:09:42,900
I hate to think that
I would be a lower

2714
02:09:42,900 --> 02:09:44,700
morale for our directors.

2715
02:09:44,700 --> 02:09:48,360
I try to be as considerate
of them as possible.

2716
02:09:48,360 --> 02:09:50,320
But I can understand
what you were saying.

2717
02:09:50,320 --> 02:09:54,200
So I certainly see
that but I will.

2718
02:09:54,200 --> 02:09:57,580
I'm going to start doing
my whatever you want

2719
02:09:57,580 --> 02:10:00,640
to call open house Thursdays,
the third Thursday of the month,

2720
02:10:00,640 --> 02:10:01,440
from o'clock to o'clock.

2721
02:10:01,440 --> 02:10:04,250
That would be tomorrow, but
I just did one a week ago.

2722
02:10:04,250 --> 02:10:07,250
So I will start that next
month and not instead

2723
02:10:07,250 --> 02:10:10,010
of tomorrow, just because I've
already done one this month

2724
02:10:10,010 --> 02:10:11,670
and I have to take
the dog to the vet.

2725
02:10:11,670 --> 02:10:15,150
So I already had that kind
of dog, had to go to the vet.

2726
02:10:15,150 --> 02:10:19,790
And then the last thing I
had is just great job again.

2727
02:10:19,790 --> 02:10:21,970
Public works and us
getting that award

2728
02:10:21,970 --> 02:10:25,490
I think that was like I said,
Walter and I were beaming

2729
02:10:25,490 --> 02:10:29,810
as we were standing there and
one of the only names coming up

2730
02:10:29,810 --> 02:10:33,030
across the thing, I mean,
again, five names coming across,

2731
02:10:33,030 --> 02:10:35,610
and here's Tavari one of
them's like Tallahassee.

2732
02:10:35,610 --> 02:10:37,030
They were ones
everybody heard of.

2733
02:10:37,030 --> 02:10:39,770
Nobody had really heard
that much of us by the time

2734
02:10:39,770 --> 02:10:40,470
they were done.

2735
02:10:40,470 --> 02:10:41,350
They knew who we were.

2736
02:10:41,350 --> 02:10:42,590
So that's a great thing.

2737
02:10:42,590 --> 02:10:44,650
So good job.

2738
02:10:44,650 --> 02:10:46,770
Yeah, I mainly was just going
to talk about the Florida

2739
02:10:46,770 --> 02:10:49,250
league of cities
conference we went

2740
02:10:49,250 --> 02:10:51,530
and to various
winning the award.

2741
02:10:51,530 --> 02:10:54,410
Like I say, it's
very good for you

2742
02:10:54,410 --> 02:10:56,910
to hear when other people say,
oh, I know where Tavares is.

2743
02:10:56,910 --> 02:10:59,150
I love Tavares, I go
through there all the time.

2744
02:10:59,150 --> 02:11:01,670
You got a great thing
going on and I'd

2745
02:11:01,670 --> 02:11:05,430
just love to hear that and keep
up the good work, everybody.

2746
02:11:05,430 --> 02:11:06,290
It's great.

2747
02:11:06,290 --> 02:11:08,630
It really is great
to hear all of that.

2748
02:11:08,630 --> 02:11:14,630
God bless Tavares and happy
days and be careful out there.

2749
02:11:14,630 --> 02:11:15,490
Mayor oh.

2750
02:11:15,490 --> 02:11:19,930
It's me Mr. Santoro, you
talked about what John says,

2751
02:11:19,930 --> 02:11:22,810
and I love that statement
that he makes all the time.

2752
02:11:22,810 --> 02:11:23,910
It's a great one.

2753
02:11:23,910 --> 02:11:26,790
You said something
that resonated with me.

2754
02:11:26,790 --> 02:11:29,490
The very first email you
ever sent me at the bottom.

2755
02:11:29,490 --> 02:11:34,050
And I use it today when I
send letters out to people.

2756
02:11:34,050 --> 02:11:38,270
You said, when it's all over,
it's not who you were, it's

2757
02:11:38,270 --> 02:11:39,910
whether you made a difference.

2758
02:11:39,910 --> 02:11:43,570
And I have lived by that from
the day you sent it to me.

2759
02:11:43,570 --> 02:11:47,090
I always think about that when
I'm trying to make decisions.

2760
02:11:47,090 --> 02:11:49,930
The right decision.

2761
02:11:49,930 --> 02:11:53,410
But somehow now
you've changed it.

2762
02:11:53,410 --> 02:11:58,390
So now we have those that
fail to learn from history

2763
02:11:58,390 --> 02:12:01,610
are doomed to repeat it.

2764
02:12:01,610 --> 02:12:05,610
I hadn't really gotten into
that one yet, I like it.

2765
02:12:05,610 --> 02:12:07,070
I'm still stuck
on that other one.

2766
02:12:07,070 --> 02:12:09,210
But I want to tell you,
I really appreciate

2767
02:12:09,210 --> 02:12:11,770
you sending those out
to me because they

2768
02:12:11,770 --> 02:12:13,770
do make a difference to me.

2769
02:12:13,770 --> 02:12:15,410
But thank you.

2770
02:12:15,410 --> 02:12:17,930
And I really have
nothing else to say other

2771
02:12:17,930 --> 02:12:19,630
than it was a good meeting.

2772
02:12:19,630 --> 02:12:21,950
I love how we discuss things.

2773
02:12:21,950 --> 02:12:24,330
Other councils will be
screaming at each other

2774
02:12:24,330 --> 02:12:30,870
and throwing their budget
books and blowing up.

2775
02:12:30,870 --> 02:12:32,670
And we just always
seem to get through it.

2776
02:12:32,670 --> 02:12:35,930
And we still like each other
when we leave here, regardless

2777
02:12:35,930 --> 02:12:38,150
if we disagree or not.

2778
02:12:38,150 --> 02:12:41,610
And that's something we've
always been able to do.

2779
02:12:41,610 --> 02:12:47,410
And I'm going to have to just
give Mr. Drury a little promo

2780
02:12:47,410 --> 02:12:50,570
here, because of him.

2781
02:12:50,570 --> 02:12:52,670
Because I am a little out there.

2782
02:12:52,670 --> 02:12:56,490
I mean, I'd like to
jump into a conversation

2783
02:12:56,490 --> 02:12:58,580
and get loud and get my way.

2784
02:12:58,580 --> 02:13:03,300
But he's taught me how
to be better at this.

2785
02:13:03,300 --> 02:13:06,260
How to be respectful to
all the other members,

2786
02:13:06,260 --> 02:13:08,260
how to be respectful
to the audience.

2787
02:13:08,260 --> 02:13:11,160
And he's a great, great teacher.

2788
02:13:11,160 --> 02:13:13,340
That's why you've got
such a great council.

2789
02:13:13,340 --> 02:13:16,800
I would put our council
up against any council

2790
02:13:16,800 --> 02:13:18,720
in this whole state of Florida.

2791
02:13:18,720 --> 02:13:20,920
That's how good
that I think we are.

2792
02:13:20,920 --> 02:13:23,940
We're the best.

2793
02:13:23,940 --> 02:13:30,680
But, Mr. jury, thank you
for you've trained us

2794
02:13:30,680 --> 02:13:32,180
even though you
really didn't train,

2795
02:13:32,180 --> 02:13:35,840
but just the way
that you lead us it.

2796
02:13:35,840 --> 02:13:38,800
I think it makes us all want
to be as good as we can be.

2797
02:13:38,800 --> 02:13:44,600
And without further objection,
this meeting is adjourned.

2798
02:13:44,600 --> 02:13:46,590
Y'all be safe.

2799
02:13:46,590 --> 02:13:57,000