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Call the meeting to order at 6.30 p.m., according to Apple's time. It brings us to item 2, which is the invocation. Please come forward.

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Most gracious father, we thank you today. We pray for all of the city council's business today that we'll be taking care on the behalf of our citizen. We pray for the mayor. We pray for the chairman.

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the chairman, pro-team, all the council members, and all other governing officials.

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We pray that your wisdom will provide in every business decision that is made on the behalf

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of the city.

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We pray for God's protection, for the board, for the city of Taylor, for every government,

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for facility and schools as they begin to open in session today.

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We pray for a covering of the Almighty under the shadow of His wing, and we thank you, and we ask all of these blessings and your son, Jesus' name, amen.

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Amen. Thank you.

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That brings us to the pledge of allegiance and, like, to ask Councilwoman Daniels to say the pledge.

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All right. Next is roll call, roll call please.

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Mr. Daniels, here, Ms. Rose, here, Mr. Johnson, here.

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Mrs. Brandana, here, Ms. Wynton, here.

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Mr. Guys, here, Mayor Woolie, here.

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Mrs. Bauer is excused.

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Mrs. Toco, here.

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All right, we have six members present.

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We have a quorum.

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I just shared a little bit of news with the mayor.

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We'll get some greater clarity and probably a resolution, but

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But my dad informed me that former mayor Dick Marshall passed away overnight, so we'll have an appropriate time when we get the details of that.

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Sad news.

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So with that, that'll bring us to the agenda.

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Item 5.1 is a motion to approve the agenda.

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Councilwoman.

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Will approve the agenda?

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Support.

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Motion by Councilwoman Brandana.

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supported by Councilwoman Witten? Is there any discussion?

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Hearing none, all is in favor say yes.

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Yes.

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All is opposed to no.

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The yeses have it motion carried. Item 5.2 is the motion to approve the acceptance of the minutes of the meeting held August 19th, 2025, and dispense with oral reading.

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Motion?

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Support.

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Motion by Councilwoman Witten, supported by Councilman Johnson.

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Is there any discussion?

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Hearing none, all is in favor say yes.

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Yes.

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All is opposed to no.

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So, yes, this had a motion carried, and that brings us to Mayor's communication, Mr. Mayor.

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Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and also, I'd like to send out my condolences to the Marshall family.

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Item 6.1 is a motion to approve the new appointment of Dalton Lee to the Historical Commission for a four-year term to expire on September 2nd, 2029.

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Make a motion.

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The board.

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Motion by Councilman Johnson, supported by Councilman Brandana.

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Is there any discussion?

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Here in none, all is in favor say yes.

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Yes.

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All is opposed say no.

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Yes, this have it, motion carried, is Mr. Lee here this evening?

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Not here, and we wouldn't have anyone to price wear them, so certainly you can get with the clerk and be sworn in.

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This may or any other open business.

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No, Mr. Chairman, that's all I have.

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I'm ready to keep it short and sweet.

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All right, that brings us to the regular agenda item 7.1 is the motion approved blanket purchase

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Just agreements for the 2026 Taylor Summer Festival.

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Her the attached schedule for an amount not to exceed $293,500.

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Funded through summer festival operating.

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Motion.

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So poor.

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Motion by Councilwoman Witt and supported by Councilman Johnson.

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Is there any discussion?

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Here, ma'am.

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Councilwoman.

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Is this kind of early that we're doing this year in, you know,

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is that to cost the man?

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So I believe, I'm sorry, go ahead.

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Yes, it is because we're going to try to start booking bans earlier so that we can try to secure we we have more

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The earlier we do it we have more access to more talent at this time, so that's one of the reasons we're doing this

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That's the main reason

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So by the time like usually by

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November, December's when we normally started it sometimes even into January a lot of times things are already booked and stuff

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So even talking to the promoter at our summer festival and talking to the bands they're already booking, they were already booking shows for next year.

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So this is something we had talked about already that we're going to try to get moving a little earlier this year to see what bands we can possibly get.

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I think you also mentioned that they have a non-compete within a certain geographical distance.

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So competing with the casinos and what's the place in Lein-Dot that actually,

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the person that used to book.

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Yeah, one, three, two, one, yeah.

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So, well maybe this is something for the next council.

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I think when we look at the budget performance, definitely this year,

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or normally we try to break even, so these acts are not cheap and maybe I don't want to say not book the national bands, but I think it's something that we've got to look at, because the revenues, it's $20 or $30 is cheap, but if you're not getting the people coming out to it for them.

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So I think we were all given the budget performance for this last year, so certainly the sponsorships, I think we're down as well.

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And so it's not any reflection on the partial rec staff, it's just, I think you've mentioned before if they've got one hit, they're asking for $30,000.

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And through the chair, you can see like, if you look at Friday night, we see more money on acts as opposed to Saturday, but Saturday, financially, we did a little better as far as beer sales with just the local, so it's definitely something we're looking at like, is it worth bringing in some of the bigger acts at the price that they're charging so we're dialing in, but at least at this point by getting in the game earlier, we can see what talent is out there.

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at the time that we are doing so. All right. Any further discussion?

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Chairman.

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House will.

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So, do we have any sponsorships yet for this?

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Through the Chair, not at this point, but we normally, well, I can say is that we usually have our staples,

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but to this point, we do not have any current on the books, but once this past will start

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going, hitting them, the usual, and then we'll get in the game because we did take

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a loss on our sponsorships this year.

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All right.

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Chairman.

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Councilwoman.

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So if we, when we vote on this tonight, if we vote, yes, are we obligated to pay this amount no matter

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what?

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I mean, it's a long time away, you know, I know I understand we want to secure acts and that

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is the bulk of it, like the acts are like 135 and the fireworks are 40.

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So the bulk of all of this is the fireworks and the local acts, but and then, of course,

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if we don't have to spend that, then it will be less because we've allocated for this.

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So I'm just worried that we're doing it so early, I understand why.

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But, to make ourselves be obligated to pay this amount is for a lot.

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Through the chair, this would be the budget anyway that we would bring forward, you know, months away.

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And so we're just trying to get in the game earlier to see what talent is out there, you know.

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So, through the chair, these are all not to exceed amounts.

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The goal is to always try to get better value and not exceed that amount, but spend less than that amount.

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That's always the goal that we try to achieve with getting what we would hope to achieve.

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And by talent measures, but not spend the full amount.

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I don't, obviously, these are not to exceed thresholds.

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Councilwoman?

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This is too, Mr. Wheeler.

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So I think last year, do we have two, like, rock bands on the different nights?

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Or, I mean, I think people liked it better when there was a country and I don't,

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I'm not a country person, but I think that it, people really liked the country one night and

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the rock the next night.

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Through the chair, that was the goal.

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That's why we brought this earlier.

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We were so locked out on country, starting in January last year.

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It became an impossibility in the bans of that what they were asking and us studying their ticket sales and local markets

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It would have just not been nowhere worth putting our efforts and

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financials towards that and what the return would have been so that's why we're trying to get in a little earlier to secure a country

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Act that could yield some fruit and people would want to see and listen to it here

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The chair we were even trying to get even though we had some of the rock bands on

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Saturday we were trying to like even family tradition ban who's been there before and they got a good following

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We try to get them, but they just couldn't make it work.

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They really wanted to play here, but we just couldn't get them here because they had already pre-booked.

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So that's why getting in the game helps us out tremendously.

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And we don't mind because some of these country acts, our borderline, you know, on the edge of rock and some rock,

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you know, so mixing it up on the same night is not unheard of.

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Thank you.

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All right, any further discussion?

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Hearing none, all in favor, say yes.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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I was a post-sino.

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Yes, the Senate motion carried item 7.2 as a motion to approve KAB enterprises, low bid, to install Pickleball courts at Heritage Park for an amount of $354,301.

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Let's say 3% contingency for a total amount not to exceed $364,931 funded through TBA capital outlay and Wayne County Park's Millage Funding.

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Thank you.

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Motion.

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Support.

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Motion by Councilman Johnson, supported by Councilwoman Daniels.

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Certainly.

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Councilman.

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Okay.

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So, how much is coming from the Millage Funding?

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Do we know that breakdown or?

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150,000?

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A little under that.

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Well, one, it's all totaled up.

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We do have to submit one more legal description, which I'll be bringing forward to you guys.

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Once it goes through Miss Weems at the county and her office.

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And if I need to, I'll reach out to our representative over there also.

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Mr. Garza, but I think that this will go through with no problem.

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We already have X amounts secured.

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We're going to try to put this year's allotment on it also, and it'll take us to about a hundred and forty-sixish.

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Okay, thank you, I just need some suspense of this.

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Mr. You and how many pickleball courts?

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This is three courts.

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We're going to have venting and all that stuff.

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This has absolutely has all the fencing, this is all to USA Pickleball standards.

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The goal is they're going to get the concrete in the drainage and all those items.

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Not sure if we're going to be able to strike it and paint it, due to weather conditions, because it has to have

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a X amount of time for curing and the weather has to cooperate.

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So if everything lines up, it would be done this fall, if not, everything will be done fencing-wise,

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cement-wise, but it will not be striked to the spring when weather permits.

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Okay, thank you.

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All right, and a related question, I'm going to give myself a leeway but question came up about the status of Lane Park and the dog park.

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So why I'm thinking of that, where this is something for a different recreational, what we're talking about,

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pick a ball for a different demographic, recreational, and certainly within the community those that are animal lovers are waiting patiently.

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So is that still in track for next spring?

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To the chair, count me as one of those animal lovers.

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Yeah, it's definitely, we met with the county team out there.

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Last week, Friday, I believe, where they came out and did a visit.

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They did a real nice media piece on it.

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It is plugging along, I encourage you guys to take a ride over there.

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Your eyes will be surprised that it is definitely starting to move at a very rapid pace,

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which is phenomenal to see.

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And the development is going to be second to none in this area.

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Great partnership with the county when two entities can get together and

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make things like this happen. All right. Any other questions on pick-a-ball?

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Chairman? Council?

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So since you brought up another event at the same park, the basketball court, the

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glass was broken and the balls, someone said they were still going out into the road.

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Did we fix that at all with the fencing? Can we move those?

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Through the chair, we currently do not have fencing. I'm at that park often very,

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I mean a lot, there is quite an easement there.

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I will look into some fencing options.

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I'm fearful to create more of a hazard than anything.

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The cars, I guess I've not seen the issue.

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I can look at the cameras.

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Also we have cameras to see, is it one ball every 300 shots?

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I mean, not, we won't get that deep into it,

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but I will look into that.

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The broken backboards have been ordered.

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They are in transit.

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They were shipping last week.

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So I should see them this week or early next week.

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You know, a couple unfortunate incidents.

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They were broken, and we have to replace them.

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So those are ordered and they're on their way, but there's no hazard all the glass

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and everything's been cleaned up.

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Yes, so I know the Fencing might be an eyesore as well, you know, and we don't want

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to block people's vision.

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Can you speak into the motion?

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Sure, we don't want black people's view when they're driving, but you know, I've, that's

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come up a few times already for me and just read something.

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So I was just curious if you had any suggestions.

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I'm going to have to figure out a plan.

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My fear is people, we took the curb out because of a trip hazard.

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I don't want people to, I don't want to create a hazard with the fence.

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And now we solve one smaller issue and possibly create a issue of people running into a fence.

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I will definitely look at options to see if there's like a screen or a mesh or something we can do to soften that a little bit.

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Thank you, thank you, Chair.

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Is that me?

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Yes?

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Welcome, any further discussion?

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Hearing none, all is in favor, say yes. All is opposed, say no. Yes, the Senate motion carried item 7.3 is a motion to approve,

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temperature services, incorporated, low bid to install two new RTU, HVAC units at Heritage Hall, located at Heritage Park for an amount of $58,888,

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Plus, a 4% contingency amount for a total amount, not to exceed $61,244 funded through TBA capital outlet.

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Make a motion.

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Supported.

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Motion by Councilman Johnson, supported by Councilman Witten.

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Is there any discussion?

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Hearing none, all is in favor say yes, yes, all is opposed, say no.

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That's the Senate motion carried, thank you, thank you, Mr. Yewlin.

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All right, that brings us to 7.4, which is a motion approved, the second reading to amend chapter 22,

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to fire protection and prevention, article two, fire code of the code of ordinances,

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city of Taylor to remove and replace the sections that adopt and reference the NFPA1

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fire code 2021 and replace them with and adopt the NFPA1 fire code 2024 addition.

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Motion to approve.

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Support.

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Motion by Councilman Brandon, supported by Councilman Johnson.

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Is there any discussion?

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Yes.

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Hearing none, all is in favor say yes.

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Yes.

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All is opposed to say no.

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Yes, the Savit Motion carried item 7.5 is a motion to approve setting the community development block grant program year 2024 consolidated annual performance and evaluation report.

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Capere public hearing for September 16th, 2025.

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Make the motion.

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Support.

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Motion by Councilman Johnson, supported by Councilman Brandan.

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Is there any discussion?

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I could ask if there are any conversations if you could take them out in the hallway, please.

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All right, any further discussion on item 7.5?

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Hearing none, all in favor say yes?

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Yes.

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All in favor say no.

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The yeses have it motion carried.

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Item 7.6 is a motion to approve, appendix A, city of Taylor, Michigan code of ordinances regulating the development and use of land to rezone 2-1.

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1-1-1, Van Boren, parcel number 60-002-99-0002-002, and the Westerly 600 feet of parcel number

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6-0-002-99-0001-701 of the Northwest Quarter Section 3, Township 3, South Route 10 East,

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East, City of Taylor, Wayne County, Michigan from I-1, Z-C, to I-1, light industrial.

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The property is located on the south side of Amborn between Monroe and Merrick.

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There are a motion to either approve or deny.

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Motion to deny.

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So for motion by Councilwoman Brandana, supported by Councilman Johnson, to deny.

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Is there any discussion?

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Please come forward.

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Good evening, I was here a couple weeks ago.

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My name is John Redschewy.

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I represent the owner of that property, which is the entity is Court, BKG, Van Boren, LLC.

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As mentioned previously, we have concerns that the underlying zoning, which is either B2 or

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for the gateway overlay district, depending upon what you're looking at, is not a viable use for

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that property moving forward, if and when for vacates, which we believe they will at some point in mid-2027.

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It's conditionally zoned I-1.

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It currently meets all of the setback standards for industrial.

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So the I-1 district, which we're requesting, is right in the ordinance states.

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It is a transitional district between residential and heavier industrial uses, which is precisely what we're asking for.

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It's got residential next door, we're in a transitional zone.

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There's already the required green belt buffer, which is 45 foot wide along Merrick Avenue, as well as Vamborne.

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And it actually exceeds the 75 foot setback.

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So the request is simply to continue that use on a piece of property that's already conditionally re-zoned there to I-1.

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I know that the previous vote was two to four with four being against.

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As a property owner, we don't want to vacant building here.

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We don't see any viability to be two.

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It was viable.

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K-Mark wouldn't have moved out and somebody else would be in there now doing retail.

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Further on the gateway overlay district, we strongly don't believe that's got any economic viability to build retail with lofts above it eight feet from the property line along Van Boren Road.

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It's extremely expensive, there's no market for that type of product almost anywhere other than a few downtown Birmingham or downtown Ann Arbor, something like that but certainly it's not a viable use for that property.

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In the, if in fact the Taylor, what is the Taylor Dearborn Heights gateway district is an effect that says right in it that when there's a reoccupancy of the Kmart building, we have to meet all the requirements of that district.

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So we effectively have no use for our property.

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So, that's why I'm here respectfully requesting just to continue the use as I-1 with the existing structure, we did submit a site plan that meets all the ordinance, which again, the ordinance, which is in place right now, says these are the requirements for separation between light industrial I-1 and residential.

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It meets all those requirements right now.

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If those are not adequate, setbacks and buffers change the ordinance.

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But it meets all those requirements today.

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So objectively we meet that, the letter, again, as I pointed out last time.

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This letter from your planner who wrote the overlay district makes no mention whatsoever of the overlay district in their letter.

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So it leaves us as a property owner, really confused as to what's going on, which is why we just requested the straight rezone to I-1.

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The findings of fact, which are the objective things that the planner supposed to mention has four things.

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In consistency with the master plan, which is done in 2014, again, I'll argue a lot changed in the last 11 years and we don't think that it's really a relevant master plan.

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Again, two incompatibility of large scale industrial operations permitted by the I-1 zoning with existing adjacent land uses.

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Again, the ordinance calls I-1 transitional, and we meet all the separation between industrial and residential today.

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And there's other instances of industrial up against residential throughout, particularly along Northline and

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Eureka, so this is not a unique circumstance, and we have an entire street between us.

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So we've got in it, you know, about double the setback of any other similarly zone residential to industrial site, particularly the line north line in Eureka.

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So that's two.

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Demand for industrial uses can be met by other sites currently zone die one.

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Again, the city rezoned property from, what was it, R1C, I believe it's called for the Ashley capital project.

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So that strongly argues that there's not adequate land in the township.

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the sites that are available, again, mostly along Northline and Eureka, are very isolated.

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There's a lot of wetlands and drainages and other things down in that part of town.

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And we're very close to the freeway here, obviously we got great access from both sides.

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So there's a lot of strong argument that this is a good industrial site.

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Again, it's being used for that now.

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The other thing, in the letter, the planner says they'll defer to the city's engineer

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here as to whether there's adequate capacity of utilities.

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But then they go on to state, capacity of infrastructure and services is not currently capable of accommodating large scale I1 manufacturing uses in this location.

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So why are they opining on that if the engineer's a person makes that determination and

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I can tell you that water and sewer services to that building are plenty big right now to accommodate what we have there.

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now and what we would in the future.

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So, objectively, these four findings of facts, other than the master plan, which is subjective, 11 years old.

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I would have-

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I could ask you to please grant officer, I've given you twice as much time as the last time.

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I guess I got a question on that.

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I've never been limited to argue my case in any municipality, so I guess the question is,

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is it the city's position that- and I'm not a member of the public.

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I've just allowed you, I've just allowed you to go twice as long as what the rules of the council were voted on.

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Which is, which is, which is for three minutes, and I think you've made, you've made your point actually in a number of cases,

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re-stated and re-stated and re-stated the same thing.

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So I believe I've given you, I've given you the opportunity, the public, sir, is there a discussion between those two or no?

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What I will say is you've been afforded your time on this.

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We've seen other former camards that have been redeveloped in Woodhaven, the exact same building, and it is the recommendation you had full time before the Zoning Board of Appeals, which is your right, not before the Zoning Board of Appeals, the Planning Commission.

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I mean, so you have gone through the process, I understand you don't like the outcome, but just because there are past either inconsistencies with zoning, and I'm certainly aware of the neighbors that have issues with concrete company within the city and other uses, so that's not allowable use in the I-1.

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Well, with that, is there any further person that would like to be recognized?

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Chairman.

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Council.

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I believe in the planning consultant letter, and I know we talked about it last time.

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It sounds like you still can request conditional rezoning if you have a project.

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I know in the planning consultant's letter, it says, a standard I1 rezoning allows for

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potential uses that are not envisioned in the location.

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However, conditional rezoning for use that is envisioned by the master plan could be one potential way to develop the site.

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So, I feel reading that that you still have an opportunity with the right project to bring that forward versus a blanket rezoning.

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By the way, I'm reading that and I'm talking with Ms. Fell.

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So, Ms. Fell, the planner said that that is not the case.

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If the overlay district is in place, then we cannot conditionally rezone the site.

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So effectively we have no use if came our moves out.

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Let's fill.

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It could be brought forth for a conditional rezoning, depending on the development,

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the same way that the former development brought it through because it was a B2 and it went to I1 conditional.

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And that was with a development that we looked at and that exact development was approved to go there with a lot of restrictions.

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So he does have the opportunity to bring forward a conditional rezoning.

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And that project did not go forward.

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Right.

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Okay.

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And that's why the conditional is no longer valid because it does not meet the specifications

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of what it was the conditionally resounding.

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To the chair, as long as Ford Motor Company is the tenant, the conditional rezoning stays.

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But when they're no longer the tenant, then it goes back to the B2,

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to revert back to the local regional business.

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Councilor.

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Yes, do we still have two industrial districts in the city?

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Are those, I think it's great.

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Are those all, are they different zoning there?

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Is there, seems like we have a lot of industrial.

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They're I-1 and mostly I-1, but there is some I-2,

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especially in the west.

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Is there a availability there still?

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That I don't know, we'd have to check with the assessor.

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I was just curious.

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Thank you.

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I know when we were looking at other changes driving through that area, there are a number of sites that were available for sale in Trawley West and other parcels.

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All right, any further discussion?

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Hearing none, all those in favor of denying the request, say yes, as opposed, say no.

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No. Yes, a seven-motion carried to deny.

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Item 7.7 is a motion to approve the amendment to article 13.00,

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used requirements, section 13.05, motor vehicle uses, subsection A, automobile,

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filling stations, of appendix A, of the Taylor-Mitchigan code of ordinances as attached.

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Motion?

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Support.

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Motion by Councilman Johnson, supported by Councilwoman Witten.

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Is there any discussion?

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Okay, so we talked about this at the last meeting, and so is it still 750 feet in between, and that doesn't seem like very much.

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So is that what the, what was it or the chair, that's what the proposal is, 750 feet distancing, and what are they now about, or is it making?

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There are some that want to go right next to each other and then basically on every corner

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and we have a lot of requests, we have at least four more coming that are requesting to

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come white.

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That's why we requested the moratorium to have time to study what we could do so that we

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We didn't have-

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All over abundance of these gas stations throughout the city. Council. Is 750 enough distance? It seems like we would need more distance than that. Or is that? I don't disagree with you, but what we're trying to do here is get something in place. We can always tweak it later or add more in it through the chair. It's up to the council if they wish to, you know, have more of a distance. But we felt that 750 feet was kind of in line.

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with current, what other cities are doing and keeping them off of every single corner that we have.

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Councillor Johnston. Could we absolutely, could we change that now to 1200?

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I believe you can. So through the truth, that was a question I was going

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to ask because if we, if they were to change it now, would we have to go through two readings again?

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Or can they just amend it now? Because I even would like a little

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Further of a distance, myself, to the judge.

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I think of it as just a matter of the distance requirement, the setback requirement.

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I think that can be changed tonight.

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Councillor, okay, so I don't want to do this, and then is there projects that if we went

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to the 1200 right now in place or that are applicants for that, that they'd be just

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qualified with it being 1200?

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I'd rather do two reading.

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I have not met with any of the new applicants yet.

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Okay, but-

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Okay, through the chair, all the applicants are already in, that are current.

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So this wouldn't affect any of them, but anybody coming in now would have to meet those standards.

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And I personally would almost like to see that doubled, but 1200 feet would personally be a good recommendation as well, or whatever you're thinking.

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But I think 750 was a little short myself.

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I was just thinking that so I was going to refer to Chairman and Miss Fallon, Mr. Plato, but I don't I would rather do it correctly right now if it does have to be changed it to the first and then do a second then do a second right now and then have a, you know, have them someone come up and say that we didn't do two readings or something I don't believe that we have that issue number one during the first

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public hearing, there was a discussion point specifically about the distance, that requests us to review it and actually make the distance longer.

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So that's the purpose of these public hearings, is not either simply, yes or no, it's to get feedback.

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back. And so I believe that we have the ability to make this very minor adjustment.

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We're not changing the substance of this. We're not trying to do something drastic.

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But as it stands, the maker of the motion and the supporter have not agreed to any change.

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So before we go any further down that discussion point, would you like to amend your motion to change the separation between stations from a minimum of 750 feet to some other number?

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Yes.

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And you would like that number to be?

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I mean, I was okay at 1,200.

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No, right.

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Okay.

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Well, I had so many people agreeing so I thought, okay, I'm just going to be doing a few more feet.

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Chairman.

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This is like the price is right.

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I know.

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About 1,201.

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Sorry.

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No, you're fine.

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I do agree now that I was going to bring that up as well based on the feedback.

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Question 1, even with us, people can bring forward requests for variances, correct?

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Yeah.

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So it, even if there was something, somebody maybe was closer distance, they do still have an opportunity to apply.

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The second would be,

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there's the station that closed at E-Course and Beach Dailing.

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I don't know if there's a plan for that.

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I certainly wouldn't want it, because I know that's close to the one, but I wouldn't want to see is that that just said.

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So through the chair, I think it's been for many years, and I don't know if it moves that.

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That would still be okay.

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Because it's, I mean, it's not open, but it's, okay, if it hasn't been vacant

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for over 12 months, they can continue the use as they had it before.

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Yeah, because I hate to see that just sitting there for many, many years.

433
00:34:52,510 --> 00:34:54,770
And I believe that's corporate owned, isn't it?

434
00:34:54,890 --> 00:34:55,870
Is that owned by Marathon?

435
00:34:56,110 --> 00:34:56,470
I believe so.

436
00:34:56,770 --> 00:35:03,750
So it was always interesting that Marathon granted their gas stations rich and then sold

437
00:35:03,750 --> 00:35:05,790
or had their name on,

438
00:35:08,150 --> 00:35:10,710
anyway, other folks that weren't that company.

439
00:35:12,050 --> 00:35:15,330
All right, so are you comfortable with it?

440
00:35:15,910 --> 00:35:18,830
1250, Mr. Plano, did you have any?

441
00:35:20,250 --> 00:35:21,750
No, you're just right, okay.

442
00:35:22,330 --> 00:35:23,710
We're good, okay.

443
00:35:24,330 --> 00:35:26,690
Any further discussion from the audience?

444
00:35:29,230 --> 00:35:32,110
One comment as

445
00:35:34,290 --> 00:35:38,670
was mentioned, we should be encouraging folks to reuse

446
00:35:38,670 --> 00:35:47,190
used, adapt, improve the existing stations, but also for those that are in operation.

447
00:35:48,370 --> 00:35:50,730
I mean, they're getting kind of long in the tooth.

448
00:35:51,210 --> 00:35:55,890
So anything that we can do within that, try to help them step up the game.

449
00:35:56,030 --> 00:36:05,650
I know, Romulus has mentioned that by sheets going in, it's caused some of the other businesses to really improve their businesses.

450
00:36:05,650 --> 00:36:14,730
And so Mr. Chairman, there has been, I know of one that has pulled, you know, that on telegraph is redoing a lot.

451
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,980
We're already seeing the effect of one of the least one.

452
00:36:21,740 --> 00:36:23,080
All right, any further discussion?

453
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,500
Hearing none, all those in favor say yes.

454
00:36:27,740 --> 00:36:27,980
Yes.

455
00:36:28,460 --> 00:36:29,380
All as opposed to say no,

456
00:36:32,110 --> 00:36:32,810
motion passes.

457
00:36:33,770 --> 00:36:38,130
Item 7.A is a motion to prove the second reading to amend the City of Taylor's Code of Ordnances,

458
00:36:38,130 --> 00:36:47,090
is chapter 50, utilities to add emergency, article seven, fats, oils, and grease, fog, control,

459
00:36:47,490 --> 00:36:49,390
dated July 25th, 2025.

460
00:36:49,870 --> 00:36:50,710
The motion.

461
00:36:51,530 --> 00:36:55,570
The motion by Councilman Johnson, supported by Councilwoman Whitton.

462
00:36:56,090 --> 00:36:56,850
Is there any discussion?

463
00:36:57,770 --> 00:36:58,130
Chairman.

464
00:36:58,590 --> 00:36:58,750
Oops.

465
00:36:59,510 --> 00:36:59,970
Councilwoman.

466
00:37:00,830 --> 00:37:07,830
I did speak with Mr. Gibbs, and it looks like obviously new businesses would have to

467
00:37:07,830 --> 00:37:13,610
We have this existing businesses if they pull, like, a permit to do improvements would then have to comply.

468
00:37:13,750 --> 00:37:14,670
I hope I'm saying all this right.

469
00:37:16,150 --> 00:37:22,250
And if we notice that they're offending and we write, then we can address it.

470
00:37:22,730 --> 00:37:26,830
I mean, obviously, no patient, you're not supposed to grease down your drain at home, nor a business.

471
00:37:26,990 --> 00:37:31,250
So if they're doing this, that's obviously an issue that we should address.

472
00:37:31,590 --> 00:37:37,770
And my concern last time as it related was just some of these really small businesses springing

473
00:37:37,770 --> 00:37:42,890
an unexpected expense on, you know, some of these Kony Islands and such are, it might

474
00:37:42,890 --> 00:37:45,370
operate a few minutes a day, so that's it.

475
00:37:45,830 --> 00:37:46,750
Did I say everything right?

476
00:37:46,930 --> 00:37:47,190
Yes, ma'am.

477
00:37:47,350 --> 00:37:47,490
Okay.

478
00:37:48,670 --> 00:37:48,850
Chairman.

479
00:37:49,250 --> 00:37:49,510
That's all.

480
00:37:52,190 --> 00:37:57,670
So, I'm wondering with the existing businesses that are, you know, that are under this, if

481
00:37:57,670 --> 00:38:03,470
they could have more time, or if there are any kind of a district to get alone to be paid back,

482
00:38:03,470 --> 00:38:08,750
Because I hate for our businesses, our small businesses to go out of business trying to fix this.

483
00:38:09,050 --> 00:38:13,610
So through the chair, just kind of like what Councilwoman went and touched on and Chris talked.

484
00:38:14,210 --> 00:38:18,170
We're not going to go in, we're not attacking anybody, we're going to work with everyone.

485
00:38:18,370 --> 00:38:25,130
It's more about existing businesses that are coming in and it's about our frequent flyer so to speak.

486
00:38:25,590 --> 00:38:30,890
We're going to some of the same businesses over and over, so those are the ones we're going to address right out of the gate.

487
00:38:30,890 --> 00:38:37,370
But we're definitely not walking into every business and saying you have three months to comply and stuff like that.

488
00:38:37,670 --> 00:38:43,250
So I think this is just getting something on the books that makes any new business that's coming in.

489
00:38:43,850 --> 00:38:48,950
And we're going to sit down and kind of come up with a game plan, but we don't want to put anybody out of business.

490
00:38:49,150 --> 00:38:56,210
We don't want to put any added expense on somebody or even maybe going to some sort of a plan of attack over a year,

491
00:38:56,290 --> 00:38:57,950
a couple of years or something like that.

492
00:38:57,950 --> 00:39:06,190
So it's really not our goal to put anybody out of business or a huge expense on anybody's business.

493
00:39:06,690 --> 00:39:11,610
But it does become a burden on the city and the taxpayer.

494
00:39:12,530 --> 00:39:18,250
When it's not just, literally it's grease off of plates that's going down the drain.

495
00:39:18,250 --> 00:39:23,570
Some of them even have it, but we're getting some of them that are just, they're constant problems.

496
00:39:23,570 --> 00:39:37,050
And a lot of that grease is going down the drains, and it's causing us to go over there, and we don't have anything that makes us, you know, anything forcible on us to hold them accountable.

497
00:39:38,030 --> 00:39:38,790
Councilman Johnson.

498
00:39:39,150 --> 00:39:44,910
Through the chair, the majority of the businesses in Taylor, I can go buy a grease trap tomorrow for 500 bucks.

499
00:39:45,310 --> 00:39:47,710
So more than the majority of them are small.

500
00:39:48,870 --> 00:39:53,410
Yeah, it's going to be a couple thousand, but it's something that should happen as they go.

501
00:39:53,790 --> 00:40:00,350
I mean, it's, you're going to have a few big places, but it's really, it's relatively a little

502
00:40:00,350 --> 00:40:05,170
expense. I know nobody wants to pay any extra, but it's better for them, too.

503
00:40:06,970 --> 00:40:11,610
So they'll, they'll save on maintenance on clean and drains, because we're not cheap.

504
00:40:12,490 --> 00:40:14,670
All right, is there any further discussion?

505
00:40:16,430 --> 00:40:18,990
Hearing none, all those in favor say yes.

506
00:40:19,330 --> 00:40:19,550
Yes.

507
00:40:19,930 --> 00:40:20,710
All is opposed to say no.

508
00:40:21,250 --> 00:40:35,610
Yes, the Senate motion carried item 7.9 is a motion to approve Alta, current vendor, to pay for invoice to repair Windrow Turner for an amount not to exceed $8,028 through Act 179 equipment and repair maintenance.

509
00:40:36,350 --> 00:40:36,910
Motion?

510
00:40:37,250 --> 00:40:41,470
Motion by Councilwoman Witten, supported by Councilwoman Rose.

511
00:40:41,470 --> 00:40:42,830
Is there any discussion?

512
00:40:43,330 --> 00:40:43,730
Chairman.

513
00:40:44,050 --> 00:40:44,550
Councilwoman.

514
00:40:47,930 --> 00:40:50,270
This, maybe it's not this one.

515
00:40:50,350 --> 00:40:58,010
I saw one invoice that was like June, but it's probably the next item, so I have to remind.

516
00:40:58,250 --> 00:41:00,910
Okay. Any further discussion?

517
00:41:05,300 --> 00:41:05,420
None.

518
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:06,560
All in favor say yes.

519
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:07,040
Yes.

520
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:08,260
All as opposed to say no.

521
00:41:09,020 --> 00:41:10,380
Yes, the Savit Motion carried.

522
00:41:11,220 --> 00:41:14,840
Item 7.10 is motion to approve Granger emergency purchase.

523
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:25,660
Just for a portable air container units at the Taylor Police Department for an amount not to exceed $23,000, $26 funded through TBA capital outlay accounts.

524
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,240
Motion, report.

525
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:34,540
Motion by Councilwoman Whitton, supported by Councilwoman Daniels, or any discussion?

526
00:41:37,220 --> 00:41:38,600
Hearing none, all of them favour say yes?

527
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:39,100
Yes.

528
00:41:39,420 --> 00:41:40,180
All is opposed to say no.

529
00:41:40,180 --> 00:42:04,740
Yes, the 7th motion carried item 7.11's motion approved night watch, sole source for the purchase of 37 security cameras for the animal shelter for an amount not to exceed $127,744 funded through act 179 animal shelter capital outlay motion support motion by council will win supported by councilman Johnson or any discussion.

530
00:42:06,100 --> 00:42:13,720
I think this was a five-year license on the Vercada, which I think covers the entire expense.

531
00:42:13,980 --> 00:42:17,500
Like we don't have ongoing, I think the way Vercada is done, is that correct?

532
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,940
That's a five-year expense, okay.

533
00:42:21,240 --> 00:42:21,500
Thank you.

534
00:42:23,410 --> 00:42:24,890
All right, any further discussion?

535
00:42:25,750 --> 00:42:27,930
Mr. Chairman, everybody should have gotten their invitation.

536
00:42:28,410 --> 00:42:30,310
Is there a grand opening?

537
00:42:30,710 --> 00:42:32,950
Is that on the 17th, September 17th?

538
00:42:33,090 --> 00:42:33,290
All right.

539
00:42:33,290 --> 00:42:35,170
All right,

540
00:42:37,390 --> 00:42:39,650
any further discussion?

541
00:42:41,010 --> 00:42:44,490
Hearing none, all is in favor say yes, all is opposed to say no.

542
00:42:45,370 --> 00:42:46,730
Yes, motion carried.

543
00:42:47,830 --> 00:42:54,790
Item 7.12 is the motion to approve the administration to enter into contract negotiations with the SNA software.

544
00:42:55,230 --> 00:43:03,850
For the implementation of ERP software for an amount of $380,455 in year one and

545
00:43:03,850 --> 00:43:12,670
In 90,370 dollars annually for five years funded through Billing Department, Water Department, General Fund Administration.

546
00:43:13,530 --> 00:43:14,090
Motion?

547
00:43:14,450 --> 00:43:15,010
Support.

548
00:43:15,610 --> 00:43:18,290
Motion by Councilwoman Witt and supported by Councilman Johnson.

549
00:43:18,690 --> 00:43:19,670
Is there any discussion?

550
00:43:22,990 --> 00:43:23,450
Very none.

551
00:43:23,950 --> 00:43:24,850
All those in favor say yes?

552
00:43:25,070 --> 00:43:25,310
Yes.

553
00:43:25,630 --> 00:43:26,370
I was opposed to no.

554
00:43:27,610 --> 00:43:29,030
Yes, the motion carried.

555
00:43:29,250 --> 00:43:35,010
Item 7.13 is a motion to approve, rico, slow source for paper cut, yearly renewal,

556
00:43:35,010 --> 00:43:41,210
in the amount not to exceed $4,847 funded through general fund IT contractual services.

557
00:43:42,330 --> 00:43:43,410
Motion, support?

558
00:43:43,730 --> 00:43:46,450
Motion by Councilwoman Witton, support by Councilwoman Brandana.

559
00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:48,550
Is there any discussion?

560
00:43:51,340 --> 00:43:52,840
Hearing none, all is in favor say yes.

561
00:43:53,100 --> 00:43:53,240
Yes.

562
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:54,820
All is opposed to no.

563
00:43:55,940 --> 00:44:03,960
The yes is how it motion carried item 7.14 is a motion to approve CBTS sole source for

564
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:14,880
the yearly renewal of Red Sky E9-11 for an amount of $7,427 funded through general fund IT contractual services.

565
00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:16,320
Motion?

566
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:18,160
Support.

567
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,500
Motion by Councilwoman Witton, supported by Councilwoman Brandana, is there any discussion?

568
00:44:25,190 --> 00:44:26,750
Hearing none, all in favor say yes.

569
00:44:27,010 --> 00:44:27,270
Yes.

570
00:44:27,710 --> 00:44:28,470
All opposed to no.

571
00:44:29,310 --> 00:44:35,110
Yes, the Senate motion carried item 7.15 is motion approved, secure off, sole source for

572
00:44:35,110 --> 00:44:46,150
The renewal of secure authentication software for an amount of $6,947 funded through general fund IT contractual services.

573
00:44:46,750 --> 00:44:48,570
Motion to approve, support.

574
00:44:49,210 --> 00:44:53,810
Motion by Councilwoman Brandana, supported by Councilwoman Daniels, is there any discussion?

575
00:44:56,410 --> 00:44:59,810
Hearing none, all is in favor say yes, all is opposed say no.

576
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:30,540
Yes, the senate motion carried item 7.16. It's a motion to approve amending city council resolution 8.360-25 for GHA. Technology is low quote for the purchase of 400 UB, UB key, multi-factor authentication fobs for an amount of $31,000 funded through general fund IT contractual services. Motion, support. Motion by councilwoman Witt and supported by councilwoman Rose. Is there any discussion?

577
00:45:30,540 --> 00:45:31,120
Chairman.

578
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:31,880
Councilwoman.

579
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:37,200
So can we just get some explanation on why it's being amended just for public?

580
00:45:38,980 --> 00:45:40,700
Is it on the- I don't have the sheet.

581
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:41,800
I think he-

582
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:42,720
Do we have-

583
00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:43,920
I think he sent an email.

584
00:45:44,300 --> 00:45:44,400
Okay.

585
00:45:44,900 --> 00:45:45,360
One second.

586
00:45:47,430 --> 00:45:50,530
I think he had sent an email of something with-

587
00:45:50,530 --> 00:45:51,390
Mr. Moore here?

588
00:45:51,850 --> 00:45:52,530
I don't hear the chair.

589
00:45:52,650 --> 00:45:53,630
I don't see the

590
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:56,580
honest with you.

591
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,080
I'm not sure why it was being amendment.

592
00:45:58,220 --> 00:45:59,280
I don't remember seeing that email.

593
00:46:04,660 --> 00:46:06,260
Mr. Bazzura, come on down.

594
00:46:16,330 --> 00:46:22,590
So this is item 7.16, and this is the same one we had to think the question on before or whether or not.

595
00:46:22,630 --> 00:46:28,510
The first change was there some backup attached, like $600, like tax was wrongly calculated or something.

596
00:46:28,870 --> 00:46:29,830
Is that part of the attachment?

597
00:46:30,270 --> 00:46:34,410
I think the approval is changing by $600 or $632.

598
00:46:35,330 --> 00:46:37,830
I don't have the whole package in front of me, so I apologize.

599
00:46:39,390 --> 00:46:40,050
That was cool.

600
00:46:40,050 --> 00:46:42,450
So was it, it's a different company, correct?

601
00:46:42,850 --> 00:46:47,550
Is what I, it was, they weren't the lowest bidder, the original one, after they removed the taxes,

602
00:46:48,190 --> 00:46:50,730
the other company came in as the lowest bidder?

603
00:46:51,730 --> 00:46:53,350
Is that what's my understanding?

604
00:46:53,670 --> 00:46:54,350
Sounds right.

605
00:46:54,770 --> 00:46:56,730
I read that somewhere, that's not correct.

606
00:46:56,730 --> 00:47:01,370
There was a difference of $644, and it was discovered that GHA.

607
00:47:01,370 --> 00:47:09,870
Yes, a difference of $644, it was discovered that GHA included tax, which when we were made them lower than CDWG.

608
00:47:11,530 --> 00:47:13,530
So, right, we don't pay the tax.

609
00:47:15,310 --> 00:47:22,810
So, it was an attempt to save the money and recognize who was low bed once the tax is excluded from the transaction.

610
00:47:23,050 --> 00:47:25,870
Because one company included the tax, the other one did not.

611
00:47:26,150 --> 00:47:29,010
And when they removed it, they came in under the other company.

612
00:47:29,250 --> 00:47:33,970
So they were, I believe, changing from one company to the other because they were now the lowest bidder.

613
00:47:34,670 --> 00:47:34,970
Great.

614
00:47:35,810 --> 00:47:36,270
Thank you.

615
00:47:37,190 --> 00:47:43,890
I think you're ready, these are little fobs that change the authentication code at a random time.

616
00:47:44,130 --> 00:47:50,900
And certainly another thing to try to keep folks from getting into our IT systems.

617
00:47:51,780 --> 00:47:53,360
All right, any other discussion?

618
00:47:55,700 --> 00:47:59,300
Hearing none, all of the favour say yes, all of the posts say no.

619
00:48:00,100 --> 00:48:05,180
Yes, the standard motion carried item 7.17 is motion approved, data national, soul, source.

620
00:48:05,180 --> 00:48:14,080
for a purchase agreement in the amount of $30,000 for AS-400 programming support funded through general fund IT contractual services.

621
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:15,620
Motion?

622
00:48:18,730 --> 00:48:21,370
Motion by Councilwoman Witt and supported by Councilman Johnson.

623
00:48:22,070 --> 00:48:22,790
Is there any discussion?

624
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,200
Hearing none, all in favor say yes.

625
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:27,740
Yes.

626
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:28,920
I was supposed to say no.

627
00:48:29,660 --> 00:48:31,000
Yes, this have it, motion carried.

628
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:39,300
Item 7.18 is motion approved, Plant Moramp, PELC, to provide audit of federal award services for fiscal years ending.

629
00:48:39,300 --> 00:48:50,260
in 2025 and 2026, for an amount not to exceed $15,500 and $16,000 respectively plus $10,350 per additional

630
00:48:50,260 --> 00:48:57,780
major program, if applicable, amount to be funded through budget and finance contractual services and

631
00:48:57,780 --> 00:48:59,360
corresponding grant funds.

632
00:48:59,720 --> 00:49:00,760
Motion to approve.

633
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:02,120
Support.

634
00:49:02,780 --> 00:49:05,760
Motion by Councilwoman Brandan, supported by Councilman Johnson.

635
00:49:06,580 --> 00:49:07,340
Is there any discussion?

636
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:16,100
Here are none. All's in favour? Say yes. Yes. All's opposed? Say no. The yes is that motion

637
00:49:16,100 --> 00:49:22,680
carried. That brings us to item 7.19, the motion nominated and the point blank to fill the vacant

638
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:29,220
position on the Taylor City Council per section 4.5 of the City Charter. Chairman. Council.

639
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:34,080
I like to motion and nominate and appoint Keith Lehman to fill the vacant position of the Taylor City

640
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,200
Council for section 4.5 of the City Charter.

641
00:49:39,420 --> 00:49:42,440
motion by Councilwoman Whitton, supported by Councilman Johnson.

642
00:49:44,710 --> 00:49:45,950
Is there any discussion?

643
00:49:46,670 --> 00:49:46,910
Chairman.

644
00:49:47,330 --> 00:49:47,790
Councilwoman.

645
00:49:48,050 --> 00:49:48,530
Thank you.

646
00:49:48,670 --> 00:49:48,910
Keith Lehman.

647
00:49:49,570 --> 00:49:50,790
I did send his resume over.

648
00:49:51,010 --> 00:49:53,150
He's very experienced individual.

649
00:49:53,410 --> 00:49:58,590
He's very community-oriented doing a lot of work with rotary, a lot of work with, you know,

650
00:49:58,710 --> 00:50:05,370
the police charity softball event that's coming up soon, he owns a business.

651
00:50:05,370 --> 00:50:08,370
Yes, I think he'd be a good addition.

652
00:50:11,470 --> 00:50:12,890
Is there any further discussion?

653
00:50:14,650 --> 00:50:15,130
Chairman.

654
00:50:15,530 --> 00:50:15,930
Councilwoman.

655
00:50:16,310 --> 00:50:17,290
I couldn't open mine.

656
00:50:17,630 --> 00:50:20,910
I could open all the other things that might in my email, but I just couldn't open that one.

657
00:50:21,010 --> 00:50:29,170
But I did go through Facebook and try to look up in all the candidates have been qualified in their own respects.

658
00:50:31,170 --> 00:50:33,990
But thank you.

659
00:50:35,390 --> 00:50:37,110
All right, is there any further discussion?

660
00:50:40,130 --> 00:50:48,270
Just know what I'm going to abstain on this one, and from time to time there's been different names and I don't want to be on record.

661
00:50:48,790 --> 00:50:57,470
If I don't know the person, well enough, it certainly saw the resume, great credentials, respect that the person put their name forward.

662
00:50:58,190 --> 00:51:07,390
But I got your information, and I just don't feel comfortable in it, so I don't want to vote against them, I don't want to vote for them.

663
00:51:07,390 --> 00:51:14,070
So I will be abstain that's been consistent in terms of some of the folks that I just I don't know

664
00:51:15,690 --> 00:51:16,990
Any further discussion

665
00:51:19,830 --> 00:51:29,770
Hearing none all is in favor of appointing Keith Lehman vote. Yes. Yes. Yes. I was opposed to vote. No. No roll call please

666
00:51:30,430 --> 00:51:31,470
Miss Daniels.

667
00:51:39,190 --> 00:51:39,670
No

668
00:51:39,670 --> 00:51:40,590
Mr. Geith.

669
00:51:40,710 --> 00:51:41,190
Abstain.

670
00:51:43,500 --> 00:51:47,380
Motion fails two to three to one.

671
00:51:47,780 --> 00:51:47,980
Chairman.

672
00:51:48,340 --> 00:51:48,680
Councilor.

673
00:51:49,240 --> 00:51:55,280
I wanted to nominate again a couple of the people that have come up before, or maybe just

674
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:59,100
one is, and I have resumes here.

675
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:05,880
I think they were submitted to us before, but I'm not positive, but one is I'd like to nominate

676
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:20,600
And Justin Murgrowski, and I have his copy of his letter to us dated December 21, 2023, if anybody wanted a copy.

677
00:52:21,100 --> 00:52:21,980
Is there a support?

678
00:52:22,980 --> 00:52:23,380
Support.

679
00:52:24,100 --> 00:52:30,120
Motion by Councilman Brandana, supported by Councilwoman Daniels, is there any discussion?

680
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:30,760
Chairman?

681
00:52:31,540 --> 00:52:31,940
Yes.

682
00:52:31,940 --> 00:52:42,800
Yes, so I know that some of the council people wanted next in line, and we brought that person forward a couple

683
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:52,580
of times, the next person that did run for office, and we're not elected, so that would be like 9th and 10th.

684
00:52:52,640 --> 00:53:01,140
I think I'm not sure the numbers, so this person was the next next in line, I believe, so that's why I brought it forward.

685
00:53:05,140 --> 00:53:10,300
So the next in line did not want to be nominated any longer, is that correct?

686
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:16,460
Correct. I called and she did not want to be nominated again.

687
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,280
And so he was the very next one in line.

688
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:18,520
Correct.

689
00:53:20,720 --> 00:53:21,140
Chairman.

690
00:53:21,780 --> 00:53:27,300
I'm just curious with this stance, do we go to 14, do we go next next next next next next next

691
00:53:27,300 --> 00:53:31,780
next is that is that the desire of the people who are bringing that forward?

692
00:53:31,780 --> 00:53:36,800
because again, I think filling it with a qualified individual, not just because again

693
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,860
someone ran and got votes, does it mean that's who the voters chose?

694
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:41,660
Through the chair.

695
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:42,860
Councilor.

696
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,780
I'm just curious if you've reached out and spoken to him to see if he's qualified?

697
00:53:47,140 --> 00:53:48,520
I'm familiar with this individual.

698
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:49,860
So you spoke to him?

699
00:53:49,900 --> 00:53:51,140
I'm familiar with this individual.

700
00:53:52,180 --> 00:53:53,180
I'll take that as a thank you.

701
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:55,340
I'm familiar with the individual.

702
00:53:56,660 --> 00:53:57,060
Councilor.

703
00:53:57,220 --> 00:54:01,340
I just want to say that through the years, through the 12 years that I've been on council,

704
00:54:01,340 --> 00:54:04,420
this has come up many times, many times.

705
00:54:04,820 --> 00:54:08,660
And sometimes the next person is voted in, sometimes they're not.

706
00:54:08,860 --> 00:54:11,000
Sometimes the next person isn't voted in.

707
00:54:11,580 --> 00:54:15,140
And then the next person after that is voted in, I can think of a couple of times

708
00:54:15,140 --> 00:54:20,260
where Mr. Salars was voted in in this way.

709
00:54:20,620 --> 00:54:26,800
And I think that in Mr. Stapleton didn't get the vote, so they went to the next one.

710
00:54:26,980 --> 00:54:31,220
But I'm not sure of, but I know that it's come up in almost every term.

711
00:54:31,220 --> 00:54:36,260
that I've been in, that people talk about the next in line.

712
00:54:36,820 --> 00:54:42,480
So I'm not really for next in line, but I'm trying to, for this not to be so

713
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:52,340
one sided, to be just the same people bringing forward people and you don't have to say no.

714
00:54:53,420 --> 00:54:53,980
Through the chair.

715
00:54:56,130 --> 00:54:57,030
Through the chair.

716
00:54:57,450 --> 00:54:57,930
Councilor.

717
00:54:57,930 --> 00:55:05,190
So, I was, I would just like to say that, you know, I've always been for next in line.

718
00:55:05,390 --> 00:55:06,890
I think that's the way the residents voted.

719
00:55:07,310 --> 00:55:09,790
I think their votes should count, that should matter.

720
00:55:10,850 --> 00:55:15,110
There were several thousand residents that came out to vote for this person.

721
00:55:16,370 --> 00:55:19,590
And, you know, as far as being next in line,

722
00:55:19,950 --> 00:55:26,430
Ms. Rose had put it forward to the council to put it as a ballot proposal on the next election

723
00:55:26,430 --> 00:55:31,770
for residents to vote for, and half of this counsel voted not to put it to the resident.

724
00:55:32,150 --> 00:55:37,470
So I would just like to state that because, you know, they should have been given a choice

725
00:55:37,470 --> 00:55:37,690
to.

726
00:55:38,030 --> 00:55:38,330
Chairman.

727
00:55:38,950 --> 00:55:39,210
Councillor.

728
00:55:39,430 --> 00:55:44,670
Because half this counsel disagrees with that stance, because, again, unless you're going

729
00:55:44,670 --> 00:55:49,710
to apply it equally amongst all the elected official positions, that stance makes no sense

730
00:55:49,710 --> 00:55:53,250
to me, in my opinion, voters voted for seven.

731
00:55:53,250 --> 00:55:58,330
They voted for us to follow this, which says the council points if they can see.

732
00:55:58,470 --> 00:55:59,710
It doesn't say next in line.

733
00:56:00,110 --> 00:56:04,030
And again, the reason why not putting it forward to the voters is that doesn't make sense,

734
00:56:04,030 --> 00:56:06,970
unless you're going to do it for the mayor, the treasurer, and the clerk.

735
00:56:06,970 --> 00:56:09,690
In my opinion, that stance doesn't make sense.

736
00:56:09,810 --> 00:56:13,690
They did not choose 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, and 14.

737
00:56:14,350 --> 00:56:15,190
They chose 7.

738
00:56:15,810 --> 00:56:18,330
It's worked fine all the other times.

739
00:56:18,330 --> 00:56:23,130
It's only this council, and you want to put forward people who are going out to stop.

740
00:56:23,130 --> 00:56:24,830
there. I mean, I'll do the chair.

741
00:56:25,470 --> 00:56:25,810
Hold on.

742
00:56:26,250 --> 00:56:27,330
There are proponents of them.

743
00:56:27,870 --> 00:56:30,090
We do have some residents that have been waiting to speak.

744
00:56:30,730 --> 00:56:37,470
And so, and we talked about this, that the, you know, the Robert's Rules of Order,

745
00:56:37,470 --> 00:56:40,430
and I want to have more back and forth between the council members.

746
00:56:40,850 --> 00:56:42,190
You need to get to speak twice.

747
00:56:42,490 --> 00:56:49,990
You have spoken, I think, you know, at least once, at least twice, on, you know,

748
00:56:50,150 --> 00:56:51,910
why you think that it should be this person.

749
00:56:51,910 --> 00:56:58,710
We don't need to rehash the differences of opinion, recognize Mrs. Susa?

750
00:57:00,090 --> 00:57:00,530
Oh.

751
00:57:05,670 --> 00:57:12,150
Carolina Pat, 60, at 60 Jackson, I understand some of you want the next in line or the next next in line or whatever.

752
00:57:12,630 --> 00:57:16,370
It's not that I have a problem with that, but that's irrelevant to what I want to say.

753
00:57:16,750 --> 00:57:22,270
I don't believe someone who is running for city council right now should be in the position to be appointed.

754
00:57:22,270 --> 00:57:32,590
We had that came up when I was on it one time too, and they said we are not going to interview anyone that is being a candidate that is a candidate running out for the election coming up in November.

755
00:57:33,010 --> 00:57:34,170
That's the problem I have.

756
00:57:36,950 --> 00:57:37,770
Please come forward.

757
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:48,020
So I guess my question would be where in line is Justin?

758
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:57,680
What? Because we had someone else that was nominated who was also on that ballot. And

759
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:04,140
y'all didn't vote for him. You voted no. So I don't understand why all of a sudden,

760
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:10,760
you know, you're picking someone that was on that ballot because the next person in line

761
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,100
when you talk to him said, no, it has been what?

762
00:58:15,620 --> 00:58:18,520
20 months that we've been doing this?

763
00:58:20,100 --> 00:58:22,460
And now you're just calling people?

764
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:24,280
What a waste.

765
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,360
You realize, you know, we want to move forward

766
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:28,340
when we have to do stuff?

767
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,460
But if you wait 20 months,

768
00:58:32,820 --> 00:58:34,620
that makes no sense to me at all.

769
00:58:35,300 --> 00:58:37,960
This should have been done 20 months before.

770
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:43,040
Any further discussion?

771
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:51,160
I recognize it will recognize the members one more time and this please go forward please come forward

772
00:58:56,020 --> 00:59:06,460
I was just curious which list I'll be going off of the last general election or the last primary election

773
00:59:06,460 --> 00:59:12,640
because we just had an election and we're going next in line presumably that's the most recent election

774
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,280
So that's what we're going to go off of.

775
00:59:15,060 --> 00:59:17,220
In reality, I don't think we're going off that at all.

776
00:59:17,580 --> 00:59:20,420
I mean, we're going off of who's going to vote which way

777
00:59:20,420 --> 00:59:21,260
and the tone contracts.

778
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:23,700
No, that's really it.

779
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,160
I mean, everything else is just pretense.

780
00:59:27,540 --> 00:59:31,100
I mean, it's not even that controversial of a thing.

781
00:59:31,660 --> 00:59:32,940
Like, if we are in Democrat government,

782
00:59:33,140 --> 00:59:34,780
or a Republican government, they're heading to a point,

783
00:59:34,900 --> 00:59:35,640
someone to replace us.

784
00:59:36,260 --> 00:59:38,600
We wouldn't expect them to appoint someone from a different party.

785
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,100
It's all taking a whole new position to say,

786
00:59:41,100 --> 00:59:46,740
I don't want to support them because they should have the balance of power, but nobody wants to say that.

787
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:49,340
But that's obviously what it is.

788
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:54,100
So can we end the pretense and just say what you're actually doing?

789
00:59:54,820 --> 00:59:55,320
Thank you.

790
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,140
All right, is there any further discussion?

791
00:59:58,440 --> 00:59:58,520
Yes.

792
01:00:00,660 --> 01:00:04,100
I forgot what I was going to say. I apologize.

793
01:00:06,260 --> 01:00:09,420
All right, anybody else wants to be recognized?

794
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:20,220
Small lady. Hearing none. All is in favor of appointing Justin Modarski. Say yes. All is opposed to vote no? No. Roll call, please.

795
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:29,420
Miss Daniels? Yes. Mrs. Brandana? Yes. Ms. Rose? Yes. Ms. Winton? No.

796
01:00:29,420 --> 01:00:30,860
Thank you. Mr. Johnson?

797
01:00:31,220 --> 01:00:31,380
No.

798
01:00:31,820 --> 01:00:32,600
Mr. Geist.

799
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:32,900
No.

800
01:00:34,810 --> 01:00:36,710
Motion fails, three to three.

801
01:00:37,490 --> 01:00:37,870
Chairman?

802
01:00:39,030 --> 01:00:39,470
Councilwoman.

803
01:00:40,350 --> 01:00:44,610
Yes, so I thought that those two might go that way.

804
01:00:45,330 --> 01:00:51,790
So I also would like to nominate, again, Jack Hayden.

805
01:00:52,510 --> 01:00:55,510
He is on the zoning board.

806
01:00:56,150 --> 01:01:00,230
He's his family has been here his entire life.

807
01:01:00,810 --> 01:01:07,590
His father was our treasureer for many years, so I think he would be an excellent candidate.

808
01:01:08,270 --> 01:01:13,710
We did pass out his resume before I have it here if anybody wants to see it.

809
01:01:14,090 --> 01:01:21,650
But I would like to appoint, nominate and appoint Jack Hayden to the vacant position on the Taylor City Council.

810
01:01:22,250 --> 01:01:23,590
Have you spoken with Mr. Hayden?

811
01:01:23,590 --> 01:01:24,750
I called today, yes.

812
01:01:24,950 --> 01:01:25,130
Okay.

813
01:01:26,130 --> 01:01:27,250
Any further discussion?

814
01:01:28,530 --> 01:01:29,750
I need a second.

815
01:01:29,930 --> 01:01:32,190
Motion by Councilman Brandana, is there a second?

816
01:01:34,740 --> 01:01:35,540
I'll second it.

817
01:01:38,970 --> 01:01:40,070
Any further discussion?

818
01:01:40,550 --> 01:01:40,630
Does

819
01:01:44,310 --> 01:01:45,030
any favor say yes?

820
01:01:45,390 --> 01:01:45,570
Yes.

821
01:01:46,290 --> 01:01:47,070
I was opposed to no.

822
01:01:47,270 --> 01:01:47,430
No.

823
01:01:47,830 --> 01:01:48,470
Roll call, please.

824
01:01:49,190 --> 01:01:49,990
Miss Daniels?

825
01:01:50,130 --> 01:01:50,250
No.

826
01:01:51,090 --> 01:01:51,970
Mrs. Brandana?

827
01:01:52,430 --> 01:01:52,570
Yes.

828
01:01:53,250 --> 01:01:53,710
Ms. Rose?

829
01:01:54,130 --> 01:01:54,310
No.

830
01:01:54,930 --> 01:01:55,450
Ms. Winton?

831
01:01:55,890 --> 01:01:56,030
No.

832
01:01:56,570 --> 01:01:57,170
Mr. Johnson?

833
01:01:57,630 --> 01:01:57,770
No.

834
01:01:58,250 --> 01:01:58,710
Mr. Grace?

835
01:01:59,010 --> 01:01:59,150
Yes.

836
01:02:00,190 --> 01:02:01,990
I think that was the same vote as last time.

837
01:02:01,990 --> 01:02:02,930
I think it was, too.

838
01:02:04,410 --> 01:02:05,130
Thank you.

839
01:02:06,410 --> 01:02:08,470
All right. Is there any further discussion?

840
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:16,360
All right. That does bring us to open business before we go to the audience.

841
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:21,160
Is there any open business from the council or elected officials?

842
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:21,840
Chairman.

843
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:23,440
Yes.

844
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,960
I had brought, I brought today a resolution.

845
01:02:28,740 --> 01:02:30,580
Let me see, I wrote down my words here.

846
01:02:31,820 --> 01:02:38,640
So I would like to make a motion to approve City Council independent legal representation

847
01:02:39,900 --> 01:02:43,300
for a special purpose or a deposition.

848
01:02:44,500 --> 01:02:49,720
Her the attached resolution, would you like me to read the resolution or is it good enough

849
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:50,820
just to say that, Chairman?

850
01:02:50,820 --> 01:02:52,560
I think it's fair enough the,

851
01:02:55,040 --> 01:03:02,900
so make a motion to approve resolution as presented

852
01:03:02,900 --> 01:03:05,560
or for

853
01:03:10,610 --> 01:03:11,970
Council representation?

854
01:03:12,530 --> 01:03:19,490
Any, any Council that wanted a representation for a deposition on any upcoming legal matters?

855
01:03:19,850 --> 01:03:25,190
Let me get the, adopt the resolution, let's try to keep this succinct, adopt the resolution

856
01:03:25,190 --> 01:03:31,520
for council representation.

857
01:03:33,980 --> 01:03:34,580
Chairman.

858
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:35,540
As attached.

859
01:03:38,020 --> 01:03:41,400
Hello and corporate, corporate, approved, all your words.

860
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:46,920
Anybody who wanted it, would not just me, but I did, requested and wanted it.

861
01:03:47,620 --> 01:03:53,180
And also I would, I had written in there the Pentiac law firm because they served as

862
01:03:53,180 --> 01:03:59,660
corporation council a few times ago and their office is a municipal office.

863
01:03:59,660 --> 01:04:12,380
I think the city has used them in the past, so I think that all of us have know that person and I had suggested for the same hourly rate as the Corporation Council.

864
01:04:13,180 --> 01:04:21,140
And it's just for a limited purpose because we're not defendants in the other case anymore, so it's just for that deposition or a deposition.

865
01:04:21,140 --> 01:04:30,240
Well, yeah, in the last council meeting, I did put an appropriation on, so there is none of the appropriation right now for this.

866
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:36,760
In the last council meeting, if you look to your original resolution, which I don't think you made,

867
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:48,560
we didn't take it to a vote, and then right after that, I had put a budget amendment to move funds into the city council budget.

868
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:56,840
So if one pass, you need a corresponding budget amendment, so right now, even if this

869
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,580
passed, there isn't, I believe, a funding mechanism.

870
01:05:00,260 --> 01:05:05,160
And we don't know how much that might cost, what, you know, what the anticipated

871
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,600
amount of billable hours and what not.

872
01:05:07,820 --> 01:05:13,880
So if this does pass, then I think there needs to be a separate resolution, maybe

873
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:17,500
not tonight, but to appropriately budget.

874
01:05:17,500 --> 01:05:18,800
That's an excellent point.

875
01:05:19,460 --> 01:05:23,720
I didn't remember to add the corresponding amount,

876
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:27,480
but I think it's just a one-time event.

877
01:05:27,820 --> 01:05:29,800
A couple of council people were subpoenaed,

878
01:05:31,260 --> 01:05:32,740
but I can only speak for myself

879
01:05:32,740 --> 01:05:37,660
and the Corporation Council,

880
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:43,000
and I disagree on this in my opinion on this topic.

881
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,620
So I think there's a clear conflict of interest

882
01:05:46,620 --> 01:05:48,940
and I would really appreciate and vote today.

883
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:50,180
Chairman, do we have a second?

884
01:05:50,700 --> 01:05:51,220
I know there.

885
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:53,760
Motion by Council on Brandanas, their support.

886
01:05:54,060 --> 01:05:54,280
Okay.

887
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:55,940
I'll support it.

888
01:05:59,830 --> 01:06:01,210
Motion by Council on Brandanas,

889
01:06:01,390 --> 01:06:02,390
supported by Council on Whitten.

890
01:06:03,070 --> 01:06:04,010
Is there any further discussion?

891
01:06:04,410 --> 01:06:04,590
Chairman.

892
01:06:04,970 --> 01:06:05,330
Council on.

893
01:06:05,510 --> 01:06:08,230
One, I think it's important to read the resolutions.

894
01:06:08,450 --> 01:06:10,570
I mean, I don't know if there's a bandana wants to read it,

895
01:06:10,670 --> 01:06:11,670
or I can.

896
01:06:12,130 --> 01:06:12,770
Would you like to?

897
01:06:13,270 --> 01:06:13,530
Yes.

898
01:06:13,850 --> 01:06:13,990
Okay.

899
01:06:14,550 --> 01:06:17,970
So the resolution says, where as the city and members of council,

900
01:06:17,970 --> 01:06:25,650
So, well, this resolution, this, this doesn't work now because the first, yeah, the first sentence, because we, Mr.

901
01:06:25,770 --> 01:06:35,330
Plato got us, just missed, yeah, I got to just miss from, for the first time that I brought this forward.

902
01:06:35,950 --> 01:06:38,270
We were all separate defendants.

903
01:06:38,630 --> 01:06:40,870
And so, Mr. Plato had that dismissed.

904
01:06:41,650 --> 01:06:47,490
So now, the only thing that remains for me is that I have been subpoenaed for deposition.

905
01:06:47,490 --> 01:06:54,670
and I think that it's important to have counsel if you're being deposed to represent you.

906
01:06:56,250 --> 01:07:06,340
So it would be, whereas the city and members of the council, okay, so the first part doesn't work.

907
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:14,800
Okay, so I'm going to cross off the first paragraph and say, whereas there exist urgent views and

908
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:19,040
positions among council members in

909
01:07:22,180 --> 01:07:31,420
a lawsuit outside of the area towing J.T. Krova lawsuit.

910
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:37,720
This is a different lawsuit against a resident and J.T. Krova.

911
01:07:38,260 --> 01:07:45,060
So I've been subpoenaed in that case, whereas the mayor and administration advocates

912
01:07:45,060 --> 01:07:50,760
It's positions in the Towing Country Act in this litigation that are in conflict with some of the council

913
01:07:52,740 --> 01:07:53,420
members

914
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:56,760
making singular representation

915
01:07:56,760 --> 01:08:02,900
impracticable and creating a conflict of interest for the office of corporation council.

916
01:08:04,180 --> 01:08:08,020
Now therefore be it resolved that City Council authorize any

917
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:15,160
The council person to retain the Pentiac law firm as a separate legal representation

918
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:20,780
for the aforementioned lawsuit for deposition purposes only.

919
01:08:24,450 --> 01:08:28,130
All right, so we have a motion by Councilor Brandon, supported by Councilor Wooden.

920
01:08:28,870 --> 01:08:34,130
It will still be the motion would be adopt, the resolution for council representation has

921
01:08:34,130 --> 01:08:37,590
I was attached with a lot of more of them.

922
01:08:37,630 --> 01:08:39,010
I know I changed a lot of them.

923
01:08:40,770 --> 01:08:41,570
Councilwoman Witton.

924
01:08:41,870 --> 01:08:42,190
Thank you.

925
01:08:42,950 --> 01:08:44,230
I did just for the record.

926
01:08:44,410 --> 01:08:48,990
I did support this only for matters of discussion, but I have a couple points.

927
01:08:48,990 --> 01:08:53,230
What I made last time was I think our Charters clear again on the role of Corporation

928
01:08:53,230 --> 01:08:55,310
Council, so I'm in disagreement with this.

929
01:08:55,370 --> 01:09:01,070
I think our Corporation Council represents the city in this matter and can represent

930
01:09:01,070 --> 01:09:02,830
any of us in a deposition.

931
01:09:03,510 --> 01:09:20,210
We were removed as defendants, which again, to me, that was, in my opinion, was a legal tactic and our council, we should have never been named in that similar to many of the lawsuits that have been filed against the city, and I don't recall us ever being named as individuals.

932
01:09:22,570 --> 01:09:31,110
I know Chairman Geiss already brought up the budgetary implications that these lawsuits have already cost us tens of thousands of dollars and we're spending more money.

933
01:09:32,830 --> 01:09:43,410
And then my curiosity is I've read, you know, our city legal arguments on what are the divergent views on.

934
01:09:43,670 --> 01:09:44,530
Thank you for asking that.

935
01:09:44,770 --> 01:09:44,910
Yes.

936
01:09:45,390 --> 01:09:45,710
Chairman.

937
01:09:46,010 --> 01:09:46,390
Councilor.

938
01:09:46,950 --> 01:09:56,810
First of all, this isn't the area towing in JT Crova lawsuit against the city anymore that I'm talking about now because we were dismissed as defendants.

939
01:09:56,810 --> 01:10:06,290
I'm talking about a resident being sued by J.T. Crova, and I've been subpoenaed in that case, so that, um, that's number one.

940
01:10:06,710 --> 01:10:16,850
Number two, the court, you know, when I asked the very beginning of this term, um, to perhaps be, um, you know, to get

941
01:10:16,850 --> 01:10:26,410
corporation counsel, if there was an issue that came up because, and I have history from many, over many years, um, and I was told

942
01:10:26,410 --> 01:10:30,170
that it would be the majority of the council that would have to vote on that.

943
01:10:30,690 --> 01:10:39,410
So, I can only speak for myself, but I think that the majority of council does not agree with the documents

944
01:10:39,410 --> 01:10:43,850
that are filed in my opinion, so everyone can speak for their selves.

945
01:10:44,410 --> 01:10:48,910
But mainly for me, and you can stop me if you need to, Mr. Plato.

946
01:10:49,470 --> 01:10:53,390
But for me, the divergent issue is that it's not about towing.

947
01:10:53,570 --> 01:10:55,310
It's never been about towing in my opinion.

948
01:10:55,310 --> 01:11:00,130
And this is about the balance of power, okay?

949
01:11:00,550 --> 01:11:07,290
Within their motion, for within their briefs and answer to this lawsuit,

950
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:13,370
it talks about how City Council, that the administration doesn't have to go through

951
01:11:13,370 --> 01:11:15,410
City Council to sign contracts.

952
01:11:16,050 --> 01:11:17,830
And I think that's absolutely wrong.

953
01:11:18,030 --> 01:11:22,850
And if you think of the ramifications that that could cause, even if you like the

954
01:11:22,850 --> 01:11:39,670
the current mayor and agree with him, this would, if you, if we got an order that says City Council doesn't have to approve contracts, that's problematic, because if the City can't support the contracts that are being entered into, then it would go directly to the tax pairs.

955
01:11:40,270 --> 01:11:48,010
So the City Council's checks and balances, so absolutely, you need City Council to approve all contracts, because that's tax dollars.

956
01:11:48,010 --> 01:12:03,290
Number one, number two, number two, if we didn't have those checks and balances in place, you know, and we had this, it would be, it could be catastrophic for tax payers.

957
01:12:03,850 --> 01:12:16,170
So I think that the motion, I mean, the appeal talks about, this matter was appealed, there was an order entered, the judge ordered for

958
01:12:16,170 --> 01:12:23,550
For that part of it, the part that I'm concerned about, the judge ordered that the council does have the power to do that.

959
01:12:24,530 --> 01:12:35,470
So JT Crowva, I'm not sure, they appealed it, and the Corporation Council, or, yes, the Corporation Council filed a,

960
01:12:35,470 --> 01:12:40,630
what would it be, the city filed a jointer, or what would it be?

961
01:12:40,630 --> 01:12:47,990
So, they joined in their appeal, which, which at the time that it was done, it said all of our names

962
01:12:47,990 --> 01:12:55,690
and that I agreed that the council doesn't have to sign off on contracts or that they have to come

963
01:12:55,690 --> 01:13:02,470
before council. So, I do not agree with that. I think documents have been filed that say that I do

964
01:13:02,470 --> 01:13:09,430
agree with that stance, and I certainly do not. And it would be, if that were allowed,

965
01:13:09,430 --> 01:13:14,970
If that were allowed, they wouldn't even need that resolution years ago because Mayor

966
01:13:14,970 --> 01:13:19,070
Salars would have been able to just do the contract himself, but he couldn't.

967
01:13:19,690 --> 01:13:24,210
They had the City Council then had to do a resolution to stop it.

968
01:13:24,710 --> 01:13:28,870
So all of a sudden now the City Council doesn't have to sign off on contracts.

969
01:13:29,910 --> 01:13:30,510
I-

970
01:13:31,710 --> 01:13:32,490
Through the chair.

971
01:13:32,490 --> 01:13:42,390
Councilwoman, I believe I think you've made that point and I want to just, we have made these points, I think, on both sides.

972
01:13:43,610 --> 01:13:48,010
And y'all want to be here till 9 o'clock, we're going to go back through this for another hour.

973
01:13:48,790 --> 01:14:00,190
I think let's keep it to the resolution at hand, with the motion by Councilwoman Brandan, supported by Councilwoman Whitten to adopt the resolution for council representation as attached.

974
01:14:00,190 --> 01:14:02,810
Any discussion on the resolution?

975
01:14:03,430 --> 01:14:04,450
Through the chair, if I may.

976
01:14:05,330 --> 01:14:12,510
The resolution I ask for, separate counsel for the pending area towing lawsuit.

977
01:14:13,670 --> 01:14:16,550
None of the council members are defendants in that lawsuit.

978
01:14:17,350 --> 01:14:24,490
The deposition that have been subpoenaed by three of the council women are entirely

979
01:14:24,490 --> 01:14:29,070
different to have nothing really to do with the issues in the area towing lawsuit.

980
01:14:29,070 --> 01:14:34,850
There are nothing is going to come out in those depositions that has anything to do with

981
01:14:34,850 --> 01:14:38,430
the issues that have been briefed back and forth in the area towing lawsuit.

982
01:14:39,150 --> 01:14:45,150
I certainly, I will be there to represent those three individuals to make objections on

983
01:14:45,150 --> 01:14:45,510
the record.

984
01:14:45,590 --> 01:14:49,690
I'm not going to ask them any questions because I wouldn't do that anyway, but I will be there

985
01:14:49,690 --> 01:14:56,530
to protect their interests as members of this council, as council members of the City of Taylor.

986
01:14:57,570 --> 01:14:59,970
and there is nothing going to come out in the open.

987
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:20,840
Council's depositions that's going to be in conflict with anything having to do with our position in the area. All right. Any? Did you want to be record? Mr. Mayor? Mr. Chairman. I just want to point out because something that was said. Yes, it's an argument, but it was brought to you.

988
01:15:24,540 --> 01:15:25,080
Please come forward.

989
01:15:29,850 --> 01:15:34,190
Mary, I want to try to get this straight because it's kind of.

990
01:15:35,690 --> 01:15:47,730
So the City, Corporate Council, and whatever else is in the package takes care of the Council

991
01:15:47,730 --> 01:15:54,730
members. Is that correct when you're for depositions or anything like that? And the reason

992
01:15:54,730 --> 01:16:01,010
that you want the Council and Brandana wants, other Council is because she disagrees with

993
01:16:01,010 --> 01:16:05,810
the council that the city pays for? Is that correct? Yes or no?

994
01:16:08,700 --> 01:16:09,700
Not for me to answer that.

995
01:16:09,740 --> 01:16:16,560
Is that correct? You disagree with the Calc corporate council who will take care of you

996
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:23,060
at this deposition, but you disagree with him. Therefore, you want us to pay for an attorney

997
01:16:23,060 --> 01:16:29,640
for you. Even though the city already pays an attorney to take care of you, is that correct?

998
01:16:31,140 --> 01:16:32,660
Yes or no?

999
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:32,840
No.

1000
01:16:33,700 --> 01:16:42,100
The issue is, Mr. Plato would be paid, whoever was going to be next to me, to represent me, or this deposition, would get paid.

1001
01:16:42,660 --> 01:16:46,460
So if Mr. Plato is not representing me, he would not be getting paid to do that.

1002
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,320
So it's not a double dipping in that situation.

1003
01:16:49,980 --> 01:16:58,980
Okay, so but Mr. Plato just stated that he would be with you at this deposition, and he would take care of you,

1004
01:16:58,980 --> 01:17:06,240
at this deposition, but because you disagree with him on other issues in this one, you don't

1005
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:15,360
want him there. So you want us to pay for an attorney for you personally to go and

1006
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:20,560
do this deposition. But we already have one who's paid. Why should

1007
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:25,820
we pay for you to have another one? If you disagree, and this is going to sound harsh,

1008
01:17:25,820 --> 01:17:43,680
I'm sure if you disagree with corporate counsel, and he's here as a city to take care of you, then you need to go out and get your own attorney because we're already paying this man right here to take care of you through the chair.

1009
01:17:47,740 --> 01:17:55,620
I'm going to summarize you believe that we already have an attorney, right?

1010
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:56,320
That's your statement?

1011
01:17:56,820 --> 01:17:57,140
Yes.

1012
01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:03,020
And he stated that he was going to take care of these people who are going for the deposition.

1013
01:18:03,020 --> 01:18:04,580
So I think they need to get there.

1014
01:18:04,580 --> 01:18:06,680
I'm just going to stop the back and forth.

1015
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:07,700
You're okay.

1016
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:11,920
I just wanted to make sure I understood what was being said because it was confusing.

1017
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:18,320
And I believe Councilwoman, well, since you have already been recognized a number of times on this topic,

1018
01:18:18,340 --> 01:18:20,620
I will recognize Councilwoman Daniel.

1019
01:18:20,900 --> 01:18:26,960
So I just want to clarify, because it's not saying that you want a second attorney, right?

1020
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:32,640
So during the deposition, it would either be Mr. Plato that would be there to represent,

1021
01:18:32,860 --> 01:18:37,440
and he would be paid a specific amount for doing so, or there would be another

1022
01:18:37,440 --> 01:18:41,140
other attorney in his place that would be paid the same amount?

1023
01:18:41,140 --> 01:18:41,780
I don't know for a second.

1024
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:48,680
Mr. Plato, I'm sorry, just so you understand, if there's an employee of the city

1025
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:53,860
or a council member of the city, any officer of the city was giving a deposition,

1026
01:18:54,060 --> 01:18:57,520
I will be there to protect the city's interest and that witness's interest.

1027
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:02,080
Whether Mr. Penteach or any other attorney is there, I'm going to be there to protect

1028
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:02,560
the city.

1029
01:19:03,940 --> 01:19:08,300
Or someone from Yara's law firm, because last time we had a deposition, you weren't there.

1030
01:19:09,860 --> 01:19:10,920
I'm just asking.

1031
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:12,920
Councilor.

1032
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:19,060
Yes, so yes, since I wasn't finished, if I could finish, I spoke out a term.

1033
01:19:19,580 --> 01:19:25,800
So part of what I'm understanding the concern is that, you know, there have been statements,

1034
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:31,160
there have been legal documents filed that were stated that it was on behalf of the members

1035
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:35,800
of this council, and there were statements that were quoted saying they were coming

1036
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:41,260
from this council that we were in agreement with certain things. And, you know, I can only

1037
01:19:41,260 --> 01:19:47,660
speak for myself, but when that statement was made and that was put out in the documents,

1038
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:52,520
I hadn't even been talked to in regards to it. I haven't even been asked my opinion.

1039
01:19:52,700 --> 01:19:57,540
And it's something that I didn't agree with either. So I understand where Ms. Brandenna is

1040
01:19:57,540 --> 01:20:02,040
she's saying that there are statements that are being made on our behalf, and we're not

1041
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:04,360
even consulted before those statements are made.

1042
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:07,460
So I understand where she's coming from.

1043
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:17,800
All right, I believe that we have covered this topic at last six, a whole bunch of council

1044
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:18,100
meetings.

1045
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:21,820
So I don't believe there's any new information here.

1046
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:23,720
The councilwoman has made a resolution.

1047
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:28,380
Motion, I would like to take it to a roll call vote.

1048
01:20:28,580 --> 01:20:32,400
Motion by Councilwoman Brindana, supported by Councilwoman Whitton.

1049
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:33,540
All those in favor say yes?

1050
01:20:33,980 --> 01:20:34,440
Yes.

1051
01:20:34,900 --> 01:20:35,900
All as opposed to say no?

1052
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:36,300
No.

1053
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:37,440
Roll call, please.

1054
01:20:37,980 --> 01:20:38,840
Ms. Daniels?

1055
01:20:38,980 --> 01:20:39,120
Yes.

1056
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:40,700
Mrs. Brindana?

1057
01:20:41,060 --> 01:20:41,180
Yes.

1058
01:20:41,700 --> 01:20:42,100
Ms. Rose?

1059
01:20:42,460 --> 01:20:42,600
Yes.

1060
01:20:43,820 --> 01:20:44,600
Ms. Winton?

1061
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:45,040
No.

1062
01:20:45,580 --> 01:20:46,240
Mr. Johnson?

1063
01:20:46,660 --> 01:20:46,840
No.

1064
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:48,080
Mr. Geist?

1065
01:20:48,380 --> 01:20:48,660
No.

1066
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:51,760
Motion fails three to three.

1067
01:20:52,480 --> 01:20:55,900
All right, just to thank you, Councilwoman.

1068
01:20:57,620 --> 01:21:06,760
Mr. Plato, I don't want to read this and it's an entirety, but do I have, do I have your permission to

1069
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:12,760
generally or do you want to stay without mentioning the person's name?

1070
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:15,540
Or would you love to register?

1071
01:21:15,540 --> 01:21:19,660
I was just not going to acknowledge the comment whatsoever.

1072
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:22,960
I'm sure we'll hear from that individual and we can address them at that time.

1073
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:23,480
Okay.

1074
01:21:23,540 --> 01:21:23,940
My position.

1075
01:21:25,890 --> 01:21:26,890
And we do have a letter.

1076
01:21:28,870 --> 01:21:44,390
Just one, in terms of my own opinion, statements, either we're getting, you know, where people have made the

1077
01:21:45,510 --> 01:21:58,170
And it's my opinion that defamation either here in public setting, or be in email, is out of order.

1078
01:21:58,610 --> 01:22:15,860
And therefore there was one online public submittal that I believe holds actual malice, which does not make it protected by the Freemones.

1079
01:22:15,860 --> 01:22:19,520
speech. So with that, here's

1080
01:22:21,790 --> 01:22:26,570
a letter to the Council Secretary, please read this letter

1081
01:22:26,570 --> 01:22:30,930
at the next council meeting to the Taylor City Council. How can we improve our city

1082
01:22:30,930 --> 01:22:35,210
parks? Chuck Kines, address as listed.

1083
01:22:35,970 --> 01:22:43,430
But in Pickleball courts. And that's, I was going to say, Pickleball courts, you look at the

1084
01:22:43,430 --> 01:22:59,130
The lighting, you know, really makes a big difference over at Heritage Park, all the solar lights, various improvements, certainly within the dollar amounts that we have, Mr. Mayor.

1085
01:22:59,410 --> 01:23:06,870
Mr. Chairman, we're, I mean, we don't set down earlier last week and we're going to probably start doing the entire pathways throughout Heritage.

1086
01:23:09,430 --> 01:23:15,480
Some of them are getting pretty bad, especially around the pond and the parking lots.

1087
01:23:15,480 --> 01:23:25,200
Well, those are 20 years old, 20, 22, 23 parking lot over by a sweet shop.

1088
01:23:29,650 --> 01:23:41,030
You take a look at the sign at Chelsea Park, right there at the signage there, I think that park is now, right around that 20, 22 years needs a little touch up.

1089
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:49,100
Councilwoman's neighborhood, and when you're sitting at that stop, stop sign there, so we're in,

1090
01:23:52,710 --> 01:23:54,390
kind of that'll be a continental one.

1091
01:24:02,130 --> 01:24:05,090
Can you give us an update on that?

1092
01:24:05,630 --> 01:24:07,710
Through the chair, you took the algae bloom.

1093
01:24:08,250 --> 01:24:08,850
Not too long ago.

1094
01:24:09,090 --> 01:24:12,610
So what happened was every year when we got that real hot streak

1095
01:24:12,610 --> 01:24:15,870
there in August, early August, that creates the algae bloom.

1096
01:24:16,150 --> 01:24:20,680
And then we put in another type of algae that attacks the algae.

1097
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:21,260
Is your mic on?

1098
01:24:21,820 --> 01:24:21,980
Yes.

1099
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:23,120
Is your mic on?

1100
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:23,960
Oh, yeah.

1101
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:25,380
Oh, sorry, I'll put it closer.

1102
01:24:26,460 --> 01:24:30,780
So we put in a chemical, it's actually another type of algae, it's all natural.

1103
01:24:31,460 --> 01:24:37,640
And that creates an even bigger bloom, but then as the water stirs up, it kind of calms

1104
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:38,820
it down and stuff like that.

1105
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:45,000
So I haven't been over there in probably a week or two, so by the pond, but I think it's

1106
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:45,840
calmed down a little bit.

1107
01:24:45,860 --> 01:24:49,320
But when we first do that, that does create a little bit of a smell, but it's usually

1108
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:55,960
something we have to do in mid-August, somewhere around there, depending on the heat and stuff, but it usually gets it going.

1109
01:24:56,080 --> 01:25:01,860
The problem is, you know, the heat, and we have a lot of geese and duck over there, which causes a lot of that as well.

1110
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:06,140
So, at the bottom of it is, um, councilor.

1111
01:25:06,420 --> 01:25:08,320
So, was that working, that just was done?

1112
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:09,600
Yes, I believe so.

1113
01:25:10,180 --> 01:25:13,100
Yeah, once the water is stirred up, it really helps.

1114
01:25:13,420 --> 01:25:19,020
So, we've actually, we're trying to come up with some ideas to maybe, we're able to stir that water

1115
01:25:19,020 --> 01:25:25,800
up a little bit when we add that stuff. So, you know, what we talked about, like, getting

1116
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:31,320
some, like, maybe some motors, just, or something, paddle boats. We talked about as well,

1117
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:36,260
yeah. Yeah. So, just to help circulate it, when we add that.

1118
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:41,700
All right. Is there any further open business from the council or elected officials?

1119
01:26:01,390 --> 01:26:08,650
I don't know if it's a rollerblading thing that's right outside of the Open Poe

1120
01:26:08,650 --> 01:26:13,550
million? Is that what that is? So we use that? I mean, do we use that?

1121
01:26:13,610 --> 01:26:18,050
Sorry, through the chair. So there's a, like, you're talking about on the other side,

1122
01:26:18,250 --> 01:26:21,110
the roller hockey rink. Yeah, the roller hockey rink. Yeah.

1123
01:26:21,490 --> 01:26:22,990
They do use that? Yeah, absolutely.

1124
01:26:23,130 --> 01:26:28,370
I've not seen any any advertisement on it or anybody using it or every time I'm over there,

1125
01:26:28,470 --> 01:26:32,110
I usually see kids in there. I mean, not on the time. Maybe they could use it for ice skating,

1126
01:26:32,110 --> 01:26:36,790
maybe in a winter time or something. We could fill it, but it would probably affect the asphalt in

1127
01:26:36,790 --> 01:26:43,150
there, so you're going to get more of it in the summertime, but I've seen people in there

1128
01:26:43,150 --> 01:26:43,990
quite a bit, actually.

1129
01:26:45,430 --> 01:26:49,910
There were a lot of geese today when I was over at Heritage Park, there were a lot

1130
01:26:49,910 --> 01:26:54,930
of geese, and so I know they leave their droppings everywhere, so we were clean up the museum

1131
01:26:54,930 --> 01:26:57,850
today and did a lot of sweeping and goose stuff.

1132
01:26:58,510 --> 01:27:06,610
We need more border callies, so I'm sure it's a hot topic, but they started to last

1133
01:27:06,610 --> 01:27:12,410
The last year, let me anticipate, but then they quickly changed it, so.

1134
01:27:12,870 --> 01:27:14,290
So it's the same problem with the golf course.

1135
01:27:14,450 --> 01:27:15,370
Yeah, it's the same thing.

1136
01:27:15,410 --> 01:27:17,330
It's the same thing, you've got to dance around.

1137
01:27:18,350 --> 01:27:24,270
There's a huge abundance of Canadian geese, and it's really becoming an issue.

1138
01:27:24,730 --> 01:27:30,210
The other thing is, as I went over and visited the Golden Ridge Cemetery, and the fencing looks wonderful.

1139
01:27:30,790 --> 01:27:35,310
They did replace the gates that were there that I didn't even know we had gates on the outside ends.

1140
01:27:35,310 --> 01:27:39,850
So it does really look nice if you get a chance to get over there and look at it with the black

1141
01:27:40,430 --> 01:27:41,010
fencing there.

1142
01:27:41,690 --> 01:27:42,870
Is it the one on telegraph?

1143
01:27:43,370 --> 01:27:44,410
No, the one on McKinley.

1144
01:27:44,430 --> 01:27:47,010
Okay, because I'm, yeah, they were starting to work.

1145
01:27:47,130 --> 01:27:50,310
When I talked to them when I was there, they were going to start on telegraph, so I don't know.

1146
01:27:50,370 --> 01:27:53,070
Okay, because I saw those stacked over there, and I was wondering why that.

1147
01:27:53,110 --> 01:27:56,590
That's the next one, and then the other one off of Bamborne, so thank you.

1148
01:27:56,990 --> 01:27:57,190
Chairman.

1149
01:27:58,030 --> 01:27:58,350
Councilor.

1150
01:27:58,830 --> 01:28:01,870
Speaking of the geese, do we do anything about the geese?

1151
01:28:01,870 --> 01:28:07,110
I know on some of the roads they cross and they just stand there, you know, for a long time.

1152
01:28:07,330 --> 01:28:13,350
So I don't know if we're doing anything to curb their path or there's things like that or nothing we can do.

1153
01:28:13,350 --> 01:28:14,970
Really, there's nothing we can do.

1154
01:28:15,230 --> 01:28:18,830
We can put a no-geese crossing something like this.

1155
01:28:19,130 --> 01:28:30,650
Yeah, so like I said, this year the DNR changed it for like a brief second and there was a huge eye and they changed it back real quick.

1156
01:28:30,650 --> 01:28:40,570
So yeah, it's just you have a lot you know, there's hunting numbers have gone down and there's just a huge abundance of them.

1157
01:28:40,870 --> 01:28:46,990
And you know, I know the airport is very concerned as well, because we're very close to an airport and there's more and more decent.

1158
01:28:47,750 --> 01:28:52,630
All right, Mr. Chairman is way to patiently to be recognized, please come forward, good

1159
01:29:00,820 --> 01:29:01,780
evening.

1160
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:08,260
Good evening, Chairman, Councilman, Councilman, and women of Taylor, even though I'm not a resident of City of Taylor,

1161
01:29:08,260 --> 01:29:09,800
I'm deeply honored to be in front of you today.

1162
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:15,620
I am here to address the Council regarding a major conflict of interest between Far

1163
01:29:15,620 --> 01:29:18,820
Chief Hal Young and his position and his standards.

1164
01:29:20,460 --> 01:29:31,780
On August 28, 3PM, Far One, showed on the side of the large of Taylor to transfer my 72-year-old

1165
01:29:31,780 --> 01:29:37,300
father to corbal health for a possible stroke during the transfer from the

1166
01:29:37,300 --> 01:29:42,680
bed to the stretcher, the paramedic, which should have a higher

1167
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:46,280
strand of care, draw my dad and heat his head to the metal bed.

1168
01:29:50,140 --> 01:29:53,620
He screamed out of pain at that for a couple minutes at the time he was holding

1169
01:29:53,620 --> 01:29:58,520
his head and at that time I asked my dad where was going on, how much his

1170
01:29:58,520 --> 01:29:59,960
pain was, and you taught me.

1171
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:12,300
Call me then. You like the paramedics to take their hands off of him and stop all handling all treatment. And I conveyed that information to both of them and they refused to do so.

1172
01:30:15,750 --> 01:30:32,510
At the time of the injury, the two medics complete neglecting assessing his injury. And I think the refusal of stepping away from him stepped into the idea of physical assault. My mom was also witness at the time. I and even

1173
01:30:32,510 --> 01:30:36,010
to the day, I still have a part of attorney and my mom would have been the next of Quen.

1174
01:30:40,010 --> 01:30:44,390
At the end of last week, when this didn't happen, I tried to contact the police chief,

1175
01:30:44,730 --> 01:30:48,150
the fractured, sorry, multiple times, without no avail.

1176
01:30:48,390 --> 01:30:53,770
I understand there was a holiday in a weekend, but no one was at the building.

1177
01:30:54,110 --> 01:30:57,870
And it became the idea of lock, just to get in contact with someone.

1178
01:30:59,030 --> 01:31:04,810
This morning, I received a phone call from a lieutenant and he insisted to have a phone conversation

1179
01:31:04,810 --> 01:31:07,490
which I thought it was not enough for the incident.

1180
01:31:08,250 --> 01:31:11,930
And I asked if we could have an appointment with the chief into his office.

1181
01:31:12,950 --> 01:31:20,350
As we walked in the door, but me and my mom were attacked by the chief with false litigation

1182
01:31:20,350 --> 01:31:30,590
about being trespassed and, literally, from both Coral Health and the Lodge of Taylor, which are natural.

1183
01:31:34,870 --> 01:31:43,450
And part of the nine-minute conversation that we have with the Chief, all he vouched was to engage in obstruction of justice and

1184
01:31:43,450 --> 01:31:46,290
conceal that individual's name no matter what the cost.

1185
01:31:47,430 --> 01:31:56,450
Does the council approve of such on professionalism from a fire chief, and would the council support accountability and transparency on this situation?

1186
01:31:57,130 --> 01:31:58,710
God is good and God is great for all.

1187
01:31:59,290 --> 01:32:04,110
At some point in life, we all are going to walk the path of a 70-year-old person.

1188
01:32:05,010 --> 01:32:11,370
And I don't want to wish upon anyone to endure what my father endured.

1189
01:32:12,510 --> 01:32:17,450
Since the nation, this nation, not first justice for all, with the council can be to some justice for my father.

1190
01:32:19,390 --> 01:32:21,570
First of all, is your father okay now?

1191
01:32:22,010 --> 01:32:31,870
He is okay, but he has a history of ABCs and a hit, a major hit blowing the head can carry something down in six months to a year.

1192
01:32:32,430 --> 01:32:37,150
And I'm not, I wasn't trying to litigate with the city and I'm still not trying to do that.

1193
01:32:37,270 --> 01:32:41,250
I was in, all I was trying, I did the job a long time ago, I was in AMT.

1194
01:32:41,250 --> 01:32:47,170
And I feel like the fact of the paramedic, step solo, he lied into the report.

1195
01:32:47,350 --> 01:32:51,390
He had no accountability, he lied to the hospital, he lied into the report.

1196
01:32:51,590 --> 01:32:53,530
I think he warned for him to step down.

1197
01:32:54,030 --> 01:32:54,530
And that's all I ask.

1198
01:32:54,530 --> 01:32:58,950
Sir, sir, I did allow you actually to go close to four minutes.

1199
01:32:59,250 --> 01:33:08,350
I do want, I cut off the corporation council because this is certainly something

1200
01:33:08,350 --> 01:33:13,170
I mean, difficult to speak about in, we've just talked a lot about lawyers.

1201
01:33:13,610 --> 01:33:13,630
Yes.

1202
01:33:13,990 --> 01:33:18,530
And certainly with that, that's why I wanted to make certain that your father is okay.

1203
01:33:20,010 --> 01:33:21,370
But not because the lawyers.

1204
01:33:21,550 --> 01:33:22,730
I want your father to be okay.

1205
01:33:24,230 --> 01:33:27,030
Mr. Plato, would you like to weigh in here?

1206
01:33:27,650 --> 01:33:28,790
Just thank you.

1207
01:33:29,230 --> 01:33:33,550
I have a view of this matter with the deputy fire chief.

1208
01:33:33,550 --> 01:33:39,050
My understanding of the situation, my understanding was your dad's head struck

1209
01:33:39,050 --> 01:33:40,910
one of the rails when he was being transported.

1210
01:33:42,970 --> 01:33:46,450
The Fire Department did report that to Corwell Hospital.

1211
01:33:47,370 --> 01:33:48,490
They checked him over.

1212
01:33:48,630 --> 01:33:51,090
They found no evidence of any injury, no bruising.

1213
01:33:51,810 --> 01:33:56,910
They all went to the extent of giving him a CT scan of his head and reported back

1214
01:33:56,910 --> 01:33:58,570
that there was absolutely no injury to him.

1215
01:33:58,950 --> 01:34:02,710
So I think they went above and beyond the hospital, went above and beyond what was

1216
01:34:02,710 --> 01:34:04,090
even necessary for the situation.

1217
01:34:05,460 --> 01:34:06,300
I understand.

1218
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:07,540
All right.

1219
01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:09,420
Thank you.

1220
01:34:09,820 --> 01:34:12,100
Any further open business from the audience?

1221
01:34:14,340 --> 01:34:14,980
Please come forward.

1222
01:34:20,500 --> 01:34:21,000
Simple, simple.

1223
01:34:21,300 --> 01:34:21,800
That makes sense.

1224
01:34:23,140 --> 01:34:32,520
It's now been four months since the Chief Anterna thing to the 27G agreement with ICE.

1225
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:39,940
I was very happy to hear the member and councilman Diana saying that it's very important that the council

1226
01:34:39,940 --> 01:34:45,440
approved contracts in session with the impact taxpayer, and this is a contract that remains

1227
01:34:45,440 --> 01:34:51,340
to this day unapproved, now rejecting just completely siren line.

1228
01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:53,940
It's known that there aren't costs.

1229
01:34:54,600 --> 01:35:00,360
You can work directly at section 10 of the memorandum, where it serves very explicitly.

1230
01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:05,820
Now, if I'm anticipating real, we'll carry out yesterday's functions, and we're at the

1231
01:35:42,310 --> 01:35:47,770
known states and violation of the law, and is likely to escape before it went to the

1232
01:35:47,770 --> 01:35:53,750
end. Now, of course, because I'm telling you that more than any foreign countries, no

1233
01:35:53,750 --> 01:35:58,050
officers are going to see someone cross the border. So ultimately, it's just some

1234
01:35:58,050 --> 01:36:03,050
down to an officer, just saying that somebody, let me look at, there's nothing wrong here.

1235
01:36:03,850 --> 01:36:12,130
And then without more, without going to any judge, most simply hanging off to many

1236
01:36:12,130 --> 01:36:15,010
in mass, who will take them who knows where,

1237
01:36:17,290 --> 01:36:20,230
this needs to come to an end, and it's not

1238
01:36:20,230 --> 01:36:26,330
for when our chief has aligned the same tailor with the new central district movement here

1239
01:36:26,330 --> 01:36:31,230
nationally, which now is escalating to the point where he shoots on our feet.

1240
01:36:32,930 --> 01:36:35,150
And you'll think Detroit is coming soon than that with.

1241
01:36:36,450 --> 01:36:37,470
It's coming soon.

1242
01:36:38,750 --> 01:36:42,350
Elaine's having, he seems having, in terms of international Chicago.

1243
01:36:42,350 --> 01:36:49,150
So I'm curious how do you feel about soldiers in the streets of Australia, so maybe

1244
01:36:49,150 --> 01:36:50,770
if I'm going to decide Wayne Telly,

1245
01:36:53,130 --> 01:36:55,490
is there any opinion, is there any accountant known

1246
01:36:55,490 --> 01:37:00,650
you from the chiefs, is there any willingness to sit in the principal on being willing to

1247
01:37:00,650 --> 01:37:03,710
improve contracts that directly affect the city?

1248
01:37:04,550 --> 01:37:08,930
I ask again for a vote to repudiate this agreement.

1249
01:37:09,610 --> 01:37:09,890
Thank you.

1250
01:37:10,790 --> 01:37:12,350
Is there any further open business?

1251
01:37:12,350 --> 01:37:14,690
I commend the council for not listening to anything.

1252
01:37:15,130 --> 01:37:15,570
All

1253
01:37:18,930 --> 01:37:21,530
right, folks, I think a motion to adjourn is in order.

1254
01:37:21,730 --> 01:37:21,970
Chairman?

1255
01:37:22,310 --> 01:37:22,710
Councilwoman?

1256
01:37:22,770 --> 01:37:24,290
Motion to adjourn, support.

1257
01:37:25,010 --> 01:37:27,970
Motion by councilwoman Brandanna, supported by councilwoman Witten.

1258
01:37:28,130 --> 01:37:29,190
All those in favor say yes.

1259
01:37:29,450 --> 01:37:29,570
Yes.

1260
01:37:30,050 --> 01:37:30,910
All those opposed say no.

1261
01:37:31,610 --> 01:37:33,150
The yeses have it, motion carried.

1262
01:37:33,350 --> 01:37:36,290
We are adjourned at 8.07 p.m.