1 00:00:20,780 --> 00:00:28,720 Councilwoman on your ice? Here. Councilman Chorts. Councilman Sone? Here. Deputy Mayor 2 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:35,100 Pruitt? Yes. Deputy Mayor Katz. Here. Mayor Humidideen. Out of quick notice of this meeting has been provided by 3 00:00:35,100 --> 00:00:41,980 resolution number 2-7-2017, sending a copy to newspapers, officially designated for 2018, by a 4 00:00:41,980 --> 00:00:47,260 So we have Resolution No. 238-2017 following the copy in touch with Court's Office. 5 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,360 I'm porting on the Miss Bull Building Bolton Board and the Mayor here by directs to the statement. 6 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:52,080 We couldn't ask. 7 00:00:52,580 --> 00:00:58,140 Thank you very much and good evening and welcome to this regular Council meeting, May 29th. 8 00:00:58,140 --> 00:01:04,220 Also for the record, on my left is our Township Manager, William Brown, on my right. 9 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:10,240 The gentleman with the beard at the table is our Deputy Township Manager, Dean Kaczynski. 10 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:20,800 We just heard from Esa Basi and with, okay, and we have with Esa sitting at the table with him is Omar Stavall. 11 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:33,480 And for the first time ever, here publicly at Council Meeting, we have one of our newest additions to the clerk's office, the famous, the one and only, Doug Russione, welcome. 12 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:45,460 Doug, we've been hearing some wonderful things about you, I know it's only been 57 days. 13 00:01:45,460 --> 00:01:48,900 but the words have gone out there already. 14 00:01:49,500 --> 00:01:50,580 So keep up the great work. 15 00:01:51,300 --> 00:01:53,120 All right, this is where all the funding magic happens. 16 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,880 And we have Jennifer Jackson outside it. 17 00:01:58,100 --> 00:02:00,580 All right, Jennifer Jackson, our senior clerk, 18 00:02:00,580 --> 00:02:02,940 she's actually the one setting up all the cake for you 19 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:04,460 that we brought you. 20 00:02:05,420 --> 00:02:08,060 So, all right, also the person keeping this building 21 00:02:08,060 --> 00:02:10,400 so beautiful and sparkly clean, Clarence Barnes, 22 00:02:10,660 --> 00:02:12,640 he's in the hallway, so please thank him when you see him. 23 00:02:12,640 --> 00:02:15,680 Oh, glad! Great work. 24 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:22,220 Ron Goodman behind the TV, the one who's helping us get our message 25 00:02:22,220 --> 00:02:27,300 out to the whole community, our volunteer cablecaster. Thank you, Ron. And I 26 00:02:30,630 --> 00:02:30,990 like this. 27 00:02:31,110 --> 00:02:34,550 Is there a little sign of applause down there? Is I like it? I'm having an... 28 00:02:34,550 --> 00:02:38,590 All right. And on my right, you have to give them the same applause, even though he's an attorney, 29 00:02:38,590 --> 00:02:44,150 please. On my right we have from the law firm of Chodanian, Chazen, Laperello, 30 00:02:44,150 --> 00:02:47,550 I'm alone in Capuzzo. We have the famous John Shedanian. 31 00:02:47,910 --> 00:02:48,810 All right. 32 00:02:52,490 --> 00:02:55,110 Okay. Upcoming events. Counselor me. Next 33 00:02:55,110 --> 00:02:59,170 hella vice. Counselor me will take place on Tuesday, June 19th, with public input at 34 00:02:59,170 --> 00:03:04,130 APM. The primary election market calendars will be held on Tuesday, June 5th. 35 00:03:04,190 --> 00:03:09,370 Poles will open 6 a.m. and close at 8 p.m. Council met in closed session to discuss personnel, 36 00:03:09,710 --> 00:03:14,070 legal representation, legal issues concerning any open agenda items and litigation 37 00:03:14,070 --> 00:03:20,430 updates. I see that we have in the audience, Janice Prishal, who is also the volunteer director 38 00:03:20,430 --> 00:03:24,970 for the Tinaq Food Pantry, and myself and Council Member Rice went and took a look 39 00:03:24,970 --> 00:03:31,990 at your new location downstairs. You're doing a great job at the Food Pantry helping 40 00:03:31,990 --> 00:03:33,730 the whole community, and now you're over here. 41 00:03:39,250 --> 00:03:42,050 And one more applause is tonight is also Jason 42 00:03:42,050 --> 00:03:45,830 and Castle Knight, Jason just graduated from law school last week. 43 00:03:49,190 --> 00:03:54,590 So there is no negative about Jason Castle during good and welfare that is forbidden 44 00:03:54,590 --> 00:03:56,290 tonight, save it for the last meeting. 45 00:03:57,410 --> 00:03:57,710 Okay. 46 00:03:58,210 --> 00:04:06,130 Let's go for the first presentation, which is the 2018 Matthew Feldman Award from, and I'd 47 00:04:06,130 --> 00:04:10,550 like to ask Councilman Sond to join me down below as we give the Matthew Feldman 48 00:04:10,550 --> 00:04:10,810 Award. 49 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:42,540 All right. 50 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,060 Councilman Sond, wow. 51 00:04:44,060 --> 00:04:47,100 You really came back and with a lot of, a lot of goodies. 52 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,980 All right, you want to come on up and make the presentation? 53 00:04:51,780 --> 00:04:52,300 Sure. 54 00:04:53,780 --> 00:04:57,980 I'd like to ask the other advisory board members to come up. 55 00:04:58,620 --> 00:05:00,440 Pat, Mickey, Lilian, 56 00:05:06,580 --> 00:05:07,140 good evening. 57 00:05:09,470 --> 00:05:11,910 My name is Wendy Weinberg-Dizanti. 58 00:05:12,290 --> 00:05:15,550 I'm co-chair along with David Langford, who is here 59 00:05:15,550 --> 00:05:18,230 for the T-neck advisory board on community relations. 60 00:05:18,230 --> 00:05:24,450 The advisory board is one of many boards appointed by the town council comprised of resident 61 00:05:24,450 --> 00:05:25,530 volunteers. 62 00:05:26,370 --> 00:05:32,190 This is a great group of people who share varied ideas and thoughts and serve as the 63 00:05:32,190 --> 00:05:37,810 eyes and ears of the community to encourage positive relations across diverse groups, 64 00:05:38,870 --> 00:05:41,810 which is so dearly needed in our current times. 65 00:05:41,810 --> 00:05:43,210 I think we all can agree on that. 66 00:05:43,210 --> 00:05:49,430 We are responsible for initiatives such as racial, cultural and religious dialogue sessions 67 00:05:49,430 --> 00:05:55,890 in the community, opportunities to collaborate with other town advisory boards, and the 68 00:05:55,890 --> 00:06:00,470 occasion we are celebrating tonight, the Matthew Feldman Community Award. 69 00:06:01,390 --> 00:06:08,010 The annual award is named and memory-intribute to former State Senator and Tineck Mayer, Matthew 70 00:06:08,010 --> 00:06:13,290 New Feldman, who was mayor during the 60s and did so much to help further integration 71 00:06:13,290 --> 00:06:17,170 in our town, which is truly a hallmark of our great town. 72 00:06:17,890 --> 00:06:23,350 With the assistance of the town clerk's office, the award is publicized online and in 73 00:06:23,350 --> 00:06:24,370 local publications. 74 00:06:25,010 --> 00:06:31,550 The criteria for the award include, Musliver Work and Tineck, has worked to improve intergroup 75 00:06:31,550 --> 00:06:38,450 and community relations and has promoted a spirit of community and exemplifies the spirit 76 00:06:38,450 --> 00:06:44,750 of volunteerism. This year, the individual who meets all requirements and embodies 77 00:06:44,750 --> 00:06:48,510 these qualities is Haley and Wanamaker. It's 78 00:07:12,130 --> 00:07:14,190 one of the longest of clauses we've had 79 00:07:14,190 --> 00:07:15,250 in this chamber. 80 00:07:18,010 --> 00:07:22,150 Haley has provided an invaluable instruction in guidance to our children and 81 00:07:22,150 --> 00:07:26,170 and to their parents as an educator and as a volunteer. 82 00:07:26,830 --> 00:07:30,210 She joined the Tnex School System as an alternate root teacher. 83 00:07:30,650 --> 00:07:35,890 She was a pre-K teacher for over six years in the even start literacy program for 84 00:07:35,890 --> 00:07:40,370 children and their mothers who needed to learn English since they weren't native speakers. 85 00:07:41,190 --> 00:07:45,910 She then became a kindergarten teacher and after that a gifted and talented teacher. 86 00:07:45,910 --> 00:07:52,730 She created and implemented a fourth grade curriculum, which taught students TNIC's unique 87 00:07:52,730 --> 00:07:56,150 and courageous fight to voluntarily and segregation. 88 00:07:57,130 --> 00:08:01,950 Too many of our students, and my guess is even people in our community, do not know the 89 00:08:01,950 --> 00:08:03,490 amazing history of TNIC. 90 00:08:03,990 --> 00:08:06,330 How wonderful, Halley communicated this. 91 00:08:07,570 --> 00:08:11,810 Another important contribution Halley has made to our community to encourage acceptance 92 00:08:11,810 --> 00:08:25,110 and appreciation of our diversity was the building bridges project for middle school students which I'm smiling about because I personally had the opportunity to work with Halley and other parents and volunteers. 93 00:08:25,770 --> 00:08:38,290 It was quite moving to witness our students of different backgrounds walk with one another from one house of worship to another and share in that experience something I will never forget or my daughter. 94 00:08:39,250 --> 00:08:44,010 Additionally, Halle has been very involved in civic life, including voter registration 95 00:08:44,010 --> 00:08:48,410 drives and issues regarding the education and well-being of our students. 96 00:08:48,630 --> 00:08:54,430 It is my pleasure, at the behalf of the Advisory Board and Community Relations, to present 97 00:08:54,430 --> 00:08:59,110 the 2018 Matthew Felman Award to Halle Ann Wanamink. 98 00:09:28,700 --> 00:09:30,820 Congratulations and wait, we have more. 99 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:32,820 You brought some crowd with you tonight. 100 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:35,380 Are they available every Tuesday? 101 00:09:37,900 --> 00:09:42,680 We have Councilman Sone would like to redo this special clock that we got you. 102 00:09:43,340 --> 00:09:46,980 This is, again, our Honorary Clock battery included. 103 00:09:47,100 --> 00:09:48,700 I want to thank the clerk for his work on that. 104 00:09:49,420 --> 00:09:53,620 The Matthew Feldman, by the way, a lot of community relations award is presented to 105 00:09:53,620 --> 00:09:58,020 Halley Ann Wanda-Maker, who has demonstrated an ongoing commitment to intergroup 106 00:09:58,020 --> 00:10:01,700 of community relations, fosters the spirit of the community, and exemplifies 107 00:10:01,700 --> 00:10:02,500 volunteerism. 108 00:10:02,500 --> 00:10:08,260 By the TNIC Advisory Board on Community Relations, this May 29, 2018 against my pleasure to 109 00:10:08,260 --> 00:10:09,280 bestow this upon you. 110 00:10:16,020 --> 00:10:21,060 And there's more, we have a proclamation from our state senator, 111 00:10:23,140 --> 00:10:24,640 good 112 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:27,280 evening. 113 00:10:28,060 --> 00:10:33,840 On behalf of Senator Weinberg, who regrettably cannot be with us this evening, ask that I present 114 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:38,460 this proclamation to you on behalf of the Senate and general assembly. 115 00:10:38,460 --> 00:10:46,640 Joint Legislative Resolution by Senator Weinberg, Assemblyman Johnson, and Assemblywoman Valerie Huddl. 116 00:10:47,260 --> 00:10:53,380 Whereas the Senate and General Assembly of the State of New Jersey are pleased to acknowledge 117 00:10:53,940 --> 00:11:04,800 Kelly and Wanamaka, a highly esteemed member of her garden state community who will be honored by the township of TNAC as the recipient of the Matthew 118 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:14,460 new film and community relations award, and whereas within all the spheres of her life and work, 119 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:21,340 Halle and Wanamaker has established a model to emulate and has set a standard of excellence 120 00:11:21,680 --> 00:11:23,560 toward which others might strive. 121 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:29,020 Now, therefore, be it resolved by the State and General Assembly of the State of New Jersey 122 00:11:29,020 --> 00:11:34,660 that this legislator held hereby joins in saluting Halle and Wanna Maker, 123 00:11:35,220 --> 00:11:40,760 pays tribute to her notorious record of service, leadership, and commitment, 124 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:46,720 and extends sincere best wishes and continued success in all her future endeavors. 125 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:53,880 And be it further resolve that a duly authenticated copy of this resolution signed by the Senate President 126 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:59,980 and assembly speaker and attested by the State Secretary and the Assembly clerk 127 00:11:59,980 --> 00:12:05,580 by transmitting to Halley and Wanda. Make a sign, Steven Sweeney, and Craig 128 00:12:05,580 --> 00:12:08,500 Kaumlin. Halley, Wanda, make a congratulations. 129 00:12:21,390 --> 00:12:28,550 Furthermore, this you do not get to keep, but again, you are the last on this plaque 130 00:12:28,550 --> 00:12:32,590 and again, it's always a pleasure privilege to look back at all those honorees who 131 00:12:32,590 --> 00:12:37,010 you join and again follow in that legacy. This has been put up on the wall here, and 132 00:12:37,010 --> 00:12:40,670 again, I look forward to seeing a second, a third, a fourth, a fifth plaque filled 133 00:12:40,670 --> 00:12:45,630 up with other honorees, and again, congratulate you. This is a perpetual, those stay at home. 134 00:12:46,010 --> 00:12:50,050 This you can come and visit with your crowd and any council meeting you so desire. 135 00:12:50,270 --> 00:12:51,050 Congratulations again. 136 00:13:01,610 --> 00:13:09,730 So, let me see, woo, I'll go this way. Okay. First of all, thank all of you for coming. 137 00:13:09,730 --> 00:13:14,570 I so appreciate you being here, and I just want to say a few words. 138 00:13:15,990 --> 00:13:20,230 When I got the phone call from Pat White that I was being chosen to receive the 2018 139 00:13:20,230 --> 00:13:25,870 Matthew Feldman Community Award, I was deeply humbled and honored, actually was speechless, 140 00:13:26,190 --> 00:13:29,270 and I had to call her back, and apologize for being in articulate. 141 00:13:30,130 --> 00:13:31,110 I said I'm sorry. 142 00:13:33,050 --> 00:13:38,310 When I resourced the other individuals and organizations that are on that plaque that 143 00:13:38,310 --> 00:13:40,750 I have received this award I was even more humbled and honored. 144 00:13:41,430 --> 00:13:45,850 And when I researched the history of Matthew Feldman and his role in the T-NEX Voluntary 145 00:13:45,850 --> 00:13:50,130 Decegregation of the Public School System, I was humbled and honored beyond words. 146 00:13:51,430 --> 00:13:54,230 Receiving this award has a deep personal meaning for me. 147 00:13:54,830 --> 00:13:58,970 Though I was raised in liberal Minnesota, I'm the daughter of parents from the South. 148 00:13:59,430 --> 00:14:04,290 I spent my whole childhood visiting the small home towns of my parents, where I witnessed 149 00:14:04,290 --> 00:14:06,990 ugly division, racism, and oppression. 150 00:14:07,610 --> 00:14:13,450 Even as a small child, I knew this was deeply wrong and I made a vow to myself to try 151 00:14:13,450 --> 00:14:16,050 to create a different kind of community when I grew up. 152 00:14:16,790 --> 00:14:22,550 When my husband was here and I married in 1990 and we're looking for a town in which 153 00:14:22,550 --> 00:14:25,710 to settle, we knew Tineck was the right place for us. 154 00:14:26,530 --> 00:14:32,170 Its emphasis on multiculturalism, diversity and activism was where we could start our family 155 00:14:32,910 --> 00:14:35,070 and live the values we hold dear. 156 00:14:35,070 --> 00:14:39,930 And indeed, Tina gave us this wonderful environment in which to raise our two daughters, 157 00:14:40,190 --> 00:14:44,470 Halliama and Anna, who are sitting there, so proud of them. 158 00:14:45,730 --> 00:14:49,970 Tina also gave me the opportunity to lead projects such as Building Bridges and the 159 00:14:49,970 --> 00:14:54,930 Even Start Family Literacy Program, by the way of which there are some of my wonderful 160 00:14:54,930 --> 00:14:56,890 moms and children that are here. 161 00:15:02,670 --> 00:15:32,570 It also gave me a chance to teach in my kindergarten and other classes the unique history of TNX role in the fight for equity and education. It gave me the chance to meet and learn from other dedicated community activists who encouraged me to be involved in many aspects of TNX civic life, including voter registration drives election campaigns and other issues. I'm thankful to have spent 28 years in this unique and wonderful community. I'm honored to receive this award, the 2018 Matthew Feldman 162 00:15:32,570 --> 00:15:38,370 community award, and I'm very thankful to the township, the TNEC Advisory Board, community 163 00:15:38,370 --> 00:15:45,590 relations, my friends, my family, my students who are here tonight, and who have supported 164 00:15:45,590 --> 00:15:45,850 me. 165 00:15:46,150 --> 00:15:49,150 Thank you for giving me the opportunity to come full circle. 166 00:15:49,730 --> 00:15:54,930 I hope to continue serving TNEC as a volunteer and giving back to the town that has given me 167 00:15:54,930 --> 00:15:55,650 so much. 168 00:15:55,910 --> 00:15:57,970 Thank you so much everybody for coming. 169 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:32,840 Haley certainly a very well-deserved award, they can hang out, because we have a lot more 170 00:16:33,460 --> 00:16:34,700 cloppin' map to do tonight. 171 00:16:35,860 --> 00:16:37,320 We have to work for our cake. 172 00:16:39,700 --> 00:16:44,120 I don't know if you remember the first time that I had got the opportunity to meet you. 173 00:16:45,020 --> 00:16:49,900 There was about 200 students that used to walk on West Anglewood Avenue and cross three 174 00:16:49,900 --> 00:16:51,400 bridges to go to school. 175 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,540 And they do that on the way back as well. 176 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,720 And you came in front of the council and you said, this is crazy. 177 00:16:57,940 --> 00:17:02,780 This is an accident waiting to happen to have 200 students every single day going this way 178 00:17:02,780 --> 00:17:08,280 in that way over the railroad tracks, and sometimes the trains were there so they go under the train or through the train. 179 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:13,340 And it was a very, very dangerous situation and we were able to get a fence put in. 180 00:17:13,980 --> 00:17:14,460 Remember that? 181 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:19,120 And because of that fence, so we were told, why are we wasting our money on a fence? 182 00:17:19,120 --> 00:17:23,900 It was going to get ripped down. I think we're 15 years later. The fence is still there. Lots of ivy 183 00:17:23,900 --> 00:17:29,980 But the students are not going down the tunnel. So that was a major contribution that you that you had towards 184 00:17:29,980 --> 00:17:32,520 Tinack and to the youth and 185 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:39,760 Honestly to the safety of our of our young ones. So thank you. That was my my first introduction to you. All right 186 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,360 Councilman castle. It's your night 187 00:17:43,420 --> 00:17:44,440 After Hayley leaves 188 00:17:46,740 --> 00:17:58,640 I want to first say congratulations, but also thank you, because the Matthew Feldman award 189 00:17:59,290 --> 00:18:03,300 is presented to the individual or group who best exemplifies the efforts to improve community 190 00:18:03,300 --> 00:18:11,580 relations in T-nec, and I view that as being T-nec's own Nobel Peace Prize, that we live in 191 00:18:11,580 --> 00:18:37,860 You know, polarizing time and, you know, elections often show how polarizing our community can get, but you, in this award, remind us of the unity, and that there are people who are working behind the cameras who are working, you know, behind the poles who are working within the communities and not the outdoors and meeting their neighbors and making this community a place that is a shining star in not just the state but the country. So I want to, I want to thank you. 192 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:44,720 And, you know, there are no other words I can say other than congratulations to thank you so thank you for everything you've done. 193 00:18:47,220 --> 00:18:47,660 Absolutely. 194 00:18:52,310 --> 00:18:55,350 I'm so excited for this for you. 195 00:18:55,950 --> 00:19:05,970 And because you're so with unassuming and because you do, what you do, just because you just think that everybody should do that, is why you are the person to receive such an award. 196 00:19:07,390 --> 00:19:12,250 Halley, I met Halley when my youngest was three, who's now 20, and that was 197 00:19:12,250 --> 00:19:16,250 assuming grace for me at the time because I had two kids 18 months apart, my 198 00:19:16,250 --> 00:19:21,150 youngest having special needs, and even start was a place of refuge and sanity 199 00:19:21,150 --> 00:19:26,630 for me. And so I see some of the moms back there from even start and reunions at 200 00:19:26,630 --> 00:19:30,310 Halley would still open her home and have the families come back. And that was just 201 00:19:30,310 --> 00:19:34,930 such a safe place for so many families and welcoming and the languages and 202 00:19:34,930 --> 00:19:39,950 And what a great play start to have an even opportunity here in TNAC. 203 00:19:41,530 --> 00:19:47,750 First, so many times of being in your home of Christmas, we just have open house, open in and out. 204 00:19:47,930 --> 00:19:53,110 I'm sure many of you have seen it, Halle's Christmas, where we had guest appearances by Santa. 205 00:19:55,190 --> 00:20:02,550 So just always the community person opening up her home, the witnessing President Obama becoming our president, 206 00:20:02,550 --> 00:20:07,230 being in your home and just screaming and just hugging and laughing with so many of you, I'm sure. 207 00:20:07,770 --> 00:20:10,390 Just exemplifies to me the type of person that you are. 208 00:20:10,930 --> 00:20:15,350 Get out the vote working with myself, my campaigns, always just opening your home. 209 00:20:15,350 --> 00:20:16,970 Here's the keys, whatever you need. 210 00:20:17,390 --> 00:20:20,370 Just a model representative to our community. 211 00:20:20,570 --> 00:20:21,410 I love you so much. 212 00:20:21,450 --> 00:20:22,270 You and your family. 213 00:20:22,430 --> 00:20:23,350 You're amazing daughters. 214 00:20:23,350 --> 00:20:29,330 So as you said, it's so proud and just wonderful students, representatives of you and your husband. 215 00:20:30,370 --> 00:20:34,650 So, yes, you're so unassuming, but this is so well-deserved for such a person as you. 216 00:20:35,030 --> 00:20:36,550 Thank you. 217 00:20:36,750 --> 00:20:37,210 Thank you. 218 00:20:37,210 --> 00:20:37,910 Thank you very much. 219 00:20:41,360 --> 00:20:41,820 Okay. 220 00:20:44,550 --> 00:20:50,610 There's so many wonderful people in TNAC, and to be selected for this award in this community 221 00:20:50,610 --> 00:20:53,230 is indeed a great tribute. 222 00:20:53,790 --> 00:20:57,510 I also want to mention the fact that the rumors follow people. 223 00:20:58,110 --> 00:20:58,850 That's fantastic. 224 00:20:59,670 --> 00:21:03,250 I really appreciate the fact that all of you have come out, she must be a great lady. 225 00:21:03,250 --> 00:21:16,010 And of course, she is, but what I'm most impressed about is whenever a teacher gets an award, I have a special warm spot in my heart for that. 226 00:21:16,510 --> 00:21:17,630 Let's give her a round of applause. 227 00:21:23,270 --> 00:21:23,970 Councilman Schwarz. 228 00:21:24,390 --> 00:21:29,930 I'll make a brief congratulations, and maybe you can answer this one question about TNIC, I have not found the answer to. 229 00:21:30,350 --> 00:21:33,950 In that tunnel, there is a room that doors locked. 230 00:21:33,950 --> 00:21:35,850 Does anyone know what is in that room? 231 00:21:37,330 --> 00:21:38,470 It's a sum pump. 232 00:21:39,130 --> 00:21:39,290 God. 233 00:21:39,890 --> 00:21:42,110 I thought this could have gotten a lot better. 234 00:21:42,430 --> 00:21:43,250 All right. 235 00:21:46,380 --> 00:21:46,800 All right. 236 00:21:46,940 --> 00:21:47,760 Let's have some cake. 237 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:49,340 Oh, I'm sorry. 238 00:21:49,620 --> 00:21:49,980 I don't know. 239 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:56,660 In my, for more than ten years, I have served as a member of the advisory board of community relations for the past four years. 240 00:21:56,660 --> 00:21:59,400 I've been proud to serve as liaison from the council. 241 00:21:59,900 --> 00:22:05,400 For the past ten years, as an advisory board, we have sat down and tried to figure out 242 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,680 How can we get TNX residents together? 243 00:22:08,900 --> 00:22:11,740 How can we take advantage of our diversity 244 00:22:11,740 --> 00:22:13,420 and turn it into our greatest asset 245 00:22:13,820 --> 00:22:15,120 rather than our greatest challenge? 246 00:22:15,780 --> 00:22:18,400 And there are a few people who personify that effort 247 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,280 to do that in person, indeed, 248 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,340 by through building bridges, 249 00:22:22,980 --> 00:22:25,840 through even start, through your efforts as a teacher, 250 00:22:26,100 --> 00:22:28,360 and again, in inculcating those issues 251 00:22:28,360 --> 00:22:30,960 and inculcating those ideals into our children 252 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,500 who grow up in this township, 253 00:22:32,500 --> 00:22:35,300 You truly personify that goal and objective. 254 00:22:35,300 --> 00:22:38,100 It is an honor and a privilege to be here this evening 255 00:22:38,660 --> 00:22:42,140 as my final act as liaison sharing that with the community 256 00:22:42,140 --> 00:22:43,700 and sharing that with you and your family. 257 00:22:43,860 --> 00:22:45,800 Again, it's a pleasure and a privilege. 258 00:22:48,870 --> 00:22:54,420 Now, LGFK, well said, Councilman, so all right, let's see. 259 00:23:52,190 --> 00:23:53,550 Okay. Do 260 00:24:17,940 --> 00:24:27,110 you know how to work for the library 261 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:36,120 for Mayor Lizette Parker, myself, Council Member 262 00:24:36,120 --> 00:24:44,080 Rice, and Dr. Pruitt, correct? And we want to just run this by you. 263 00:24:46,750 --> 00:24:48,570 Okay. Mayor Lizette, 264 00:24:48,570 --> 00:25:04,890 P. Phillips, Parker, a passionate trailblazer dedicated, whose dedicated leadership and service left the lasting impression on the heart of our Tina community gone, but never forgotten, and then it will be signed by the manager and the council members. 265 00:25:05,790 --> 00:25:07,030 That's okay with everyone? 266 00:25:07,690 --> 00:25:09,070 Yes, any objection? 267 00:25:11,550 --> 00:25:14,990 Okay, let the record reflect, sit there until he comes. 268 00:25:15,750 --> 00:25:16,610 It was just a presentation. 269 00:25:16,830 --> 00:25:20,650 Let the record reflect that all council members are in favor of that. 270 00:25:23,350 --> 00:25:26,710 Okay, the next is we're going to have a budget presentation. 271 00:25:26,890 --> 00:25:30,070 Can you do the budget presentation without the clerk or you need the clerk for that one? 272 00:25:30,130 --> 00:25:32,130 Yeah, we're just going to get it started. 273 00:25:33,430 --> 00:25:34,770 Old-wise outside help. 274 00:25:36,250 --> 00:25:37,450 Can you give me that community? 275 00:25:37,710 --> 00:25:38,650 I'm not going to be able to start that. 276 00:25:40,190 --> 00:25:43,130 Doug, you can bonus points for this one. 277 00:25:44,270 --> 00:25:44,730 Overhead. 278 00:25:47,290 --> 00:25:47,750 Communication. 279 00:25:49,450 --> 00:25:49,910 Yeah. 280 00:25:51,550 --> 00:25:54,670 Yeah, you want to just do the communication, is there a new business? 281 00:25:58,090 --> 00:25:59,470 We were going to do the water line. 282 00:25:59,470 --> 00:26:06,510 I was just going to wait till after the presentation by the manager. 283 00:26:09,870 --> 00:26:13,950 While Doug warms up the presentation, do we not turn it on? 284 00:26:14,470 --> 00:26:16,110 Here's some remotes somewhere there. 285 00:26:16,450 --> 00:26:17,810 Right, behind your hands, go. 286 00:26:22,030 --> 00:26:22,430 Thank you. 287 00:26:22,510 --> 00:26:23,230 You got to go on to them. 288 00:26:41,950 --> 00:26:46,350 Councilman Kassel, are you familiar with this gun violence awareness where orange 289 00:26:46,350 --> 00:26:48,530 date requests, oh, you request it? 290 00:26:48,950 --> 00:26:49,330 Okay. 291 00:26:50,070 --> 00:26:50,570 Go ahead. 292 00:26:50,710 --> 00:26:54,970 Councilmember Rice, you want to just mention it while we warmen up the projectors? 293 00:26:55,230 --> 00:26:55,410 Sure. 294 00:26:55,410 --> 00:26:55,610 do it. 295 00:26:57,250 --> 00:27:03,970 Obviously, the correspondence from Robin Platismore and with the request, it was actually her 296 00:27:03,970 --> 00:27:05,090 and David Hersfield. 297 00:27:06,010 --> 00:27:09,670 The wear-arrange movement was started by friends of 15-year-old Chicago High School student 298 00:27:09,670 --> 00:27:14,210 Heidi Pendleton, who was shot and killed in a neighborhood playground, weeks after returning 299 00:27:14,210 --> 00:27:20,130 from marching at President Obama's second inaugural parade. 300 00:27:21,050 --> 00:27:34,530 So since 2015, the movement has become a national and landmark buildings and monuments across the nation turn orange to commemorate gun violence awareness, including the Empire State Building Niagara Falls and the Superdome in New Orleans to name a few. 301 00:27:34,530 --> 00:27:40,430 Last year, we had 14 municipalities in Bergen County, passive resolution, and 302 00:27:40,430 --> 00:27:44,290 inclinations, decorating their townholds, libraries, and police stations and orange 303 00:27:44,290 --> 00:27:44,750 ribbons. 304 00:27:44,990 --> 00:27:50,570 This year, the gun violence awareness day is Friday, June 1st, and we are hoping to 305 00:27:50,570 --> 00:27:54,910 cover Bergen County in orange, and this is especially because Robin played us more 306 00:27:54,910 --> 00:27:56,310 from mom's demand action. 307 00:27:56,510 --> 00:27:59,970 So, your action that you're looking for counsel is just a pot for inclination request? 308 00:28:00,170 --> 00:28:00,430 Correct. 309 00:28:00,670 --> 00:28:01,770 Any objection from counsel? 310 00:28:02,090 --> 00:28:02,210 No. 311 00:28:02,210 --> 00:28:05,110 Let the record show no objection, yes, Councilman Castle. 312 00:28:05,410 --> 00:28:13,590 I just think it's important to read the resolution and to know that the reason that the color orange was selected is because that is the safety color that hunters use, that is true. 313 00:28:13,930 --> 00:28:18,650 So, and that's actually written in the resolution as well, but that's the reason for the color orange. 314 00:28:18,810 --> 00:28:18,970 Yes. 315 00:28:19,310 --> 00:28:19,790 Sounds good. 316 00:28:20,130 --> 00:28:31,230 And I think especially in this timely, the timely portion of current events is why I think it's also important for us to join 317 00:28:31,230 --> 00:28:36,010 and be a part of this resolution and I actually am going to forward this information 318 00:28:36,010 --> 00:28:41,130 over to our superintendent of schools and I know it's short notice because it is this Friday 319 00:28:41,130 --> 00:28:47,070 but to see if they could also join us in commemorating Friday June 1st as National Gun Violence Awareness Day. 320 00:28:47,390 --> 00:28:47,730 Excellent. 321 00:28:50,510 --> 00:28:50,810 Okay. 322 00:28:53,650 --> 00:28:58,590 Next is we're going to go over the summary of actions for the proposed budget. 323 00:28:58,590 --> 00:29:01,590 We'll turn the meeting over to the manager. 324 00:29:04,810 --> 00:29:05,610 Okay. 325 00:29:06,070 --> 00:29:07,050 You ready? 326 00:29:07,810 --> 00:29:09,410 Council may discuss it. 327 00:29:10,030 --> 00:29:10,070 Yeah. 328 00:29:10,710 --> 00:29:11,930 Okay, first slide. 329 00:29:13,350 --> 00:29:27,250 Because this is the summary of actions on the budget that I initially proposed, and the budget that was introduced on May 15th. 330 00:29:27,250 --> 00:29:39,230 on May 15th. The original budget that I proposed, the total budget was $70,296,000. 331 00:29:39,230 --> 00:29:52,350 The original proposed levy was $56,729,000. The original proposed levy increase was 3.41%, 332 00:29:52,350 --> 00:29:58,910 which would make an average increase of $128.25. 333 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:20,080 Annually, to a homeowner assessed at 382,295. I met with the Budget Subcommittee after my initial proposal to council. And we worked on bringing that number down significantly. 334 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,880 Okay, next slide. 335 00:30:29,180 --> 00:30:30,080 Oh, was that the next slide? 336 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:31,640 I go back, I go back. 337 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:42,400 All right, so the current proposed budget is 70,579 and change. 338 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:53,340 The current proposed levy is approximately 55 million, is actually 55,955 and change. 339 00:30:53,340 --> 00:31:12,160 The levy increase is 1.99%, which would mean a $67.43 annual increase on property valued assessed at $382,295. 340 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:22,720 And these are the various items we adjusted to bring the budget down. 341 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:28,320 So parentheses, when you see something in parentheses, it's a subtraction, it brought it down. 342 00:31:28,700 --> 00:31:32,400 If it's not in parentheses, it's an addition. 343 00:31:33,460 --> 00:31:39,440 So one of the things we did was we took out the police cars, $220,000 for police cars, 344 00:31:39,860 --> 00:31:46,320 and we put the police cars in the capital budget, since we're going to be buying SUVs. 345 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:55,940 tree planting, we took out the tree planting and tree trimming of $125,000. 346 00:31:56,860 --> 00:32:06,900 In my initial proposal, we had proposed going into permanent financing so that we would 347 00:32:06,900 --> 00:32:14,500 not have to make a payment on debt of $506,228. 348 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:20,340 After reviewing that with the bond council and the auditor, 349 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:25,160 we decided against that, and we didn't move forward with that. 350 00:32:25,900 --> 00:32:32,520 However, we are working on a plan to evaluate the township's debt 351 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:39,000 That the same way we did in 2012 so that we can properly ladder the debt so that it could 352 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:45,960 be paid off in a manner that does not spike our debt service capital improvement fund. 353 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:58,180 We added $213,161 to capital improvement fund and my original proposal, that number was 354 00:32:58,180 --> 00:33:07,570 was kind of unsettled because we didn't know exactly how much was left in the capital 355 00:33:07,570 --> 00:33:13,310 improvement fund that would be available for capital improvement fund down payment. 356 00:33:13,490 --> 00:33:17,050 So that number was a little unsettled and now it's firm. 357 00:33:18,390 --> 00:33:24,530 Court salary and wages were removed $50,000 from court salary and wages. 358 00:33:25,630 --> 00:33:27,430 Public works, other expenses. 359 00:33:27,430 --> 00:33:39,610 We removed $50,000, there were three positions that we had a full year salary in. 360 00:33:39,950 --> 00:33:46,850 We had one police officer position, firefighter position, executive assistant position. 361 00:33:47,610 --> 00:33:52,770 We figured that we wouldn't be hiring or doing any hiring before June. 362 00:33:52,770 --> 00:33:58,690 So we took out half of their salary, which was a reduction of 75,000. 363 00:33:59,430 --> 00:34:05,290 Social security contributions, the amount of town has to pay towards Social Security. 364 00:34:05,630 --> 00:34:09,250 We had to increase that number, but we had a 10,500. 365 00:34:10,450 --> 00:34:21,210 The reserve for uncollected taxes, we were able to bring that down a little bit more as a result of the adjustments made within the budget. 366 00:34:21,210 --> 00:34:26,710 That was a reduction of 117,312 in change. 367 00:34:27,630 --> 00:34:35,830 We added the grants, the known grants that we would be receiving, which the grants really don't have any impact on the budget. 368 00:34:35,910 --> 00:34:44,030 The grants are in the budget and they go out the exact same amount, so they really don't have any impact on the budget. 369 00:34:44,730 --> 00:34:49,870 Mr. Manager, just for the benefit of the public, there was some confusion as to why the tax, 370 00:34:49,870 --> 00:34:57,190 The budget went up while the tax levy was going down, and again, I know that that's related to the grants being added in, 371 00:34:57,270 --> 00:35:00,470 even though there are pass-through, but just to explain that for the benefit of the public. 372 00:35:01,390 --> 00:35:09,630 So I have to say that, again, I'm sorry, when you looked at the data, the total budget amount increased. 373 00:35:09,810 --> 00:35:10,310 Yes, okay. 374 00:35:10,590 --> 00:35:13,930 And there was some confusion about how that quarter would happen. 375 00:35:14,730 --> 00:35:18,070 I know, and I understand that that was due to the grants that you were describing, 376 00:35:18,070 --> 00:35:22,510 These are a pass through the money comes in, so it has to be counted as revenue and spent. 377 00:35:22,950 --> 00:35:26,210 And that's why we're going to see that two sides of this, and we're going to see it on the next slide as well. 378 00:35:26,710 --> 00:35:33,430 But that's one of the things that was added to the budget, even though it was really not an increase in our expenditures. 379 00:35:33,750 --> 00:35:37,890 Right, so there's really two different things that we're looking at. 380 00:35:38,670 --> 00:35:44,070 One is we're looking at the total budget, which is approximately $7 million. 381 00:35:44,070 --> 00:35:50,150 dollars and another we're looking at the levy, the amount that we're actually getting 382 00:35:50,150 --> 00:35:57,870 from taxpayers. So there's other sources of revenue that we may have that don't come 383 00:35:57,870 --> 00:36:05,230 from taxpayers that would have no impact on the levy. So you might see the total amount 384 00:36:05,230 --> 00:36:12,050 increase but the levy not increase and that's what you've seen here with the grants, the 385 00:36:12,050 --> 00:36:18,350 the total amount of spending increased, and the levy didn't increase as a result of the grants. 386 00:36:20,750 --> 00:36:30,490 Well, the second item down is tree planting, and I know that we have adopted a policy in the town that we are replacing trees that are being cut down or so on and so forth. 387 00:36:31,150 --> 00:36:40,350 Why is in tree planting, since we're simply replacing part of our community, why couldn't that number be shifted into the capital budget? 388 00:36:40,350 --> 00:36:45,480 I guess we could shift it into the capital budget. 389 00:36:46,140 --> 00:36:50,360 We could shift it into capital, we may be able to shift it into open space. 390 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,540 I would say both of those things are possible, yes. 391 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,040 Because I know that last year's budget, we had 75,000 set aside. 392 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:11,760 If this is something that is part of our tree city, right, the underlying community, that seems like it would be an obvious fit for to go with police cars under the capital. 393 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:18,260 And then we just replenish that every and let me just add I mean police cars isn't something that I want to do 394 00:37:18,260 --> 00:37:22,840 I mean I don't really I think we have a point that we're trying to get to I 395 00:37:23,900 --> 00:37:28,160 Don't want to put police cars in capital. I think police cars should be in our operating budget 396 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:34,600 Whether they're able to be capitalized legally or not. They should be in our operating budget 397 00:37:35,180 --> 00:37:37,160 tree planting I 398 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:55,480 I have no issue with taking the tree planting funds out of open space if, after I review that with the attorney, we have over $1.2 million there, if we want to use $75,000 or $100,000 on trees, I think that's perfect. 399 00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:01,220 I would have checked to make them take trees out of capital. 400 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,840 If it could be in most grade for capital, I'd rather say that for more capital-related projects. 401 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:12,560 We've got a major, I understand we're at Trees City, USA, but we're at Trees collapsing and causing damage all over the town city, USA. 402 00:38:13,020 --> 00:38:15,600 And I think we really need to get a better idea of where we're putting trees. 403 00:38:16,100 --> 00:38:20,300 You know, we take down trees and it's very nice people cold, they want a nice tree put on the front yard. 404 00:38:20,620 --> 00:38:24,220 Flash for 50 years, that tree's falling down and our sidewalks are crumbling. 405 00:38:24,220 --> 00:38:27,380 And I think we need to have a bigger plan on our long-term trees. 406 00:38:27,380 --> 00:38:34,160 Trees are real estate in the units, multi-generational, and we just had some major tree damage occurred two weeks ago, I believe. 407 00:38:34,580 --> 00:38:40,280 So if it's put in most, and that's fine, but from a capital point of view, I think we have other stuff on that we need to do. 408 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:45,740 One offer, they're not too suggestions that we don't have to trim trees. 409 00:38:48,500 --> 00:38:51,620 Okay, we can move to the next slide. 410 00:38:51,620 --> 00:38:52,540 So 411 00:38:55,680 --> 00:39:09,380 we had, we also canceled, we had cancellation of improvement authorizations which added 739,000 to the budget, this is, this is an addition. 412 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:21,780 We went back and we looked at completed projects and open contracts and anything that was there, we were able to cancel it. 413 00:39:21,780 --> 00:39:28,500 And this really is, you know, adding a revenue to the budget of $739,000. 414 00:39:29,340 --> 00:39:40,140 We anticipated additional construction revenue since there's a couple things that we know are going to occur in 2018 at a positive. 415 00:39:40,940 --> 00:39:46,480 We're okay with anticipating just a little bit more in revenue. 416 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:57,700 So we anticipated additional delinquent taxes, we increased that number to 487, and as I said in the past, we added the grants. 417 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:17,820 So that makes the total budget at this point, $70 million, $579, and change the levy, which is what the tax payers are going to pay for municipal services and 418 00:40:17,820 --> 00:40:23,800 in the library is included in that $55,955 in change. 419 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,660 It's a 1.99% increase on the levy. 420 00:40:29,580 --> 00:40:34,160 When you calculate that increase, it's on the levy, not on the total $70 million. 421 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:42,620 And it's $67,043 on the average home assessed at $382.95. 422 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,820 That's $67,43 annually. 423 00:40:48,180 --> 00:40:49,380 And next one. 424 00:40:50,020 --> 00:40:50,900 And that's it. 425 00:40:51,540 --> 00:40:52,760 I have two questions. 426 00:40:53,260 --> 00:40:56,480 First of all, how much is in the reserve for the uncollected taxes? 427 00:40:56,900 --> 00:40:59,180 I see that you took out 117. 428 00:41:01,580 --> 00:41:07,600 So it is the reserve for uncollected taxes is an amount that we have to budget. 429 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:09,340 But how much do we budget? 430 00:41:11,790 --> 00:41:16,180 The new number, I think it's somewhere around a million five possibly. 431 00:41:16,180 --> 00:41:26,300 My question is, why do we have to budget so much when we had a surge this year of pre-pay taxes which we've never had and where does that show up? 432 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:27,580 Okay. The two things. 433 00:41:30,450 --> 00:41:44,550 The reserve is a formula that the state has for calculating a reserve. You can use a three-year average of the amounts that you've been reserving. 434 00:41:44,550 --> 00:41:52,690 It's really, I mean, really, it's a number that we have to reserve for people who don't pay their taxes. 435 00:41:53,150 --> 00:42:00,950 Right, but what happened in the past I was told that we have this reserve because we need to make our pay roll, right? 436 00:42:01,290 --> 00:42:08,090 No, no, this is a reserve that we have every single year required by the state. 437 00:42:11,490 --> 00:42:17,910 And sometimes it's used, like in years where we had to make the refunds. 438 00:42:18,450 --> 00:42:27,090 We had to go into that reserve in order to cover the refunds on the tax appeals. 439 00:42:27,310 --> 00:42:30,250 This money goes into our surplus if it's not used. 440 00:42:30,550 --> 00:42:33,670 Then there was a second, I just want to answer this, second question that you asked. 441 00:42:33,670 --> 00:42:38,270 I don't know if it looks like Councilor Son has something to add to that one, and then I'll come back to it, yeah. 442 00:42:38,490 --> 00:42:43,050 I think there are two separate issues, and I just want to get a clarification from the manager. 443 00:42:44,910 --> 00:42:47,770 We have 155 million in assessed taxes. 444 00:42:48,310 --> 00:42:51,510 We know that we don't collect 155 million in taxes. 445 00:42:51,830 --> 00:42:54,790 If we did, we'd have 100% and there would be zero in that reserve. 446 00:42:55,310 --> 00:43:01,150 The reason we have a reserve on collect taxes is because we know that year after year after year, there is some percentage. 447 00:43:01,150 --> 00:43:05,910 So we take the percentages from three previous years, we calculate that reserve. 448 00:43:06,290 --> 00:43:12,330 One of the reasons that this has gone down is because of the shift on the date of the tax sale. 449 00:43:12,810 --> 00:43:15,010 So that caused the spike in payments. 450 00:43:15,470 --> 00:43:19,310 And again, those payments were made for prior years so that we had that spike and 451 00:43:19,310 --> 00:43:20,130 we could lower that amount. 452 00:43:21,030 --> 00:43:27,870 The, any payments that were made for 2018 that were made in 2017, those pre-paid taxes. 453 00:43:27,870 --> 00:43:33,390 is in it, we have to set that aside because that's not 2017 revenue, that's 18 revenue. 454 00:43:34,030 --> 00:43:40,270 We got that a little bit earlier, we got a few million dollars earlier in 17, but we had to set that aside for 18 tax. 455 00:43:40,450 --> 00:43:47,870 So if we take into consideration number one that we have a reserve now, number two, is that we should be accruing some type of interest on that. 456 00:43:48,090 --> 00:43:51,810 So we actually don't have a reserve. 457 00:43:51,810 --> 00:43:58,050 reserve, the reserve that we're talking about in the budget, it is a amount that you have 458 00:43:58,050 --> 00:44:01,970 to budget to reserve, not an actual reserve. 459 00:44:02,210 --> 00:44:09,810 And the second thing that you ask, the prepaid taxes go on our books as a liability. 460 00:44:11,070 --> 00:44:12,090 They are a liability. 461 00:44:12,350 --> 00:44:13,930 That money cannot be used. 462 00:44:14,250 --> 00:44:17,590 It is money that the taxpayers have given us. 463 00:44:17,590 --> 00:44:27,570 We hold it as a liability to be paid to their tax bills, so it can't be used for anything else. 464 00:44:27,690 --> 00:44:33,010 It's a liability that we assume it's used to pay our pranks, isn't it? 465 00:44:33,110 --> 00:44:33,910 No, no, no, no. 466 00:44:33,910 --> 00:44:36,290 There's a bill out there. 467 00:44:36,650 --> 00:44:39,730 There's a bill that the taxpayer has, okay? 468 00:44:40,170 --> 00:44:42,430 And they sent us the money early, right? 469 00:44:42,430 --> 00:44:50,430 So we have a it's our liability to use that money to pay their bill to get interest on that advance money. Yeah 470 00:44:51,230 --> 00:44:53,450 It's small. It's what is it? 471 00:44:53,450 --> 00:44:55,370 What is that? How much do you get? 472 00:44:55,750 --> 00:44:58,430 I don't know. That's $200,000. 473 00:44:58,450 --> 00:44:58,770 No. 474 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,820 No, nothing. Do you know how much we've collected in advance? It's about $5,000 a month. Over $14,000 million. I know we collected in advance. The last number that I had checked was $14,000 a month. It's $12,000 a month. It's $12,000 a month. It's $12,000 a month. So can we take that in consideration and take off more money from the budget based on that additional revenue? It's about three months of the pre- pre-payment. So it's about $30,000 a month. Why not? That's interest. I'm not saying talk to that. 475 00:45:29,820 --> 00:45:30,400 That's the principle. 476 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:36,500 And remember, we had to credit that, and as February 1st was the first tax belt. 477 00:45:36,740 --> 00:45:40,420 Somebody paid this December 31st, and we basically had to credit that to our account. 478 00:45:40,580 --> 00:45:42,100 We would have gotten it in February anyway. 479 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,280 So it's not like it's 14 million that's going to be sitting here at Infinitom. 480 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:52,900 All right, and the other question I have is the anticipated construction revenue. 481 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:58,560 You only listed as $30,000 shouldn't it be? 482 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,240 We had initially proposed, so- 483 00:46:01,240 --> 00:46:09,780 Does that take into consideration the permits that were paid in the last 90 days, like Avalon Bay, et cetera, since the budget was originally put up? 484 00:46:10,140 --> 00:46:18,640 Yes, so what we did is you're allowed to budget up to what you received in the previous year. 485 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:25,260 So we received about $1.1 million in 2017, so we could budget up. 486 00:46:25,260 --> 00:46:28,680 We could anticipate up to 1.1 million. 487 00:46:29,180 --> 00:46:31,460 We don't recommend it and we don't do that. 488 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:40,420 That is what got us into a budget issue because we anticipated 1.7 and a year where we had 489 00:46:40,420 --> 00:46:48,500 received a lot of construction revenue and it didn't materialize in 2017 the way we thought 490 00:46:48,500 --> 00:46:50,060 it would materialize. 491 00:46:50,060 --> 00:46:52,940 So, Avalon Bay didn't come on until 2018. 492 00:46:53,580 --> 00:46:59,620 We thought it was coming on in 2017, 1500 TNAC Road didn't come on at all. 493 00:47:00,100 --> 00:47:05,260 So we received basically less revenue and construction revenue. 494 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:14,640 So from what we initially proposed, we added additional 30,000 to that number, okay? 495 00:47:14,820 --> 00:47:18,280 And that included the Avalon Bay anticipated because you said you anticipated? 496 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:26,260 No. So, no, it did not. We can't, so is it fair to say because I think Avalon Bay was what about 300, 400 grand? 497 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,800 No, I think it was, I think it was 300,000. 498 00:47:30,140 --> 00:47:31,540 I think it was 700,000. 499 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:39,240 On the other hand, was it fair to say that maybe we can up that number from 30,000 to 100,000? 500 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:45,100 Well, no, you're saying can we update 70,000 dollars more? 501 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:45,520 Right. 502 00:47:46,620 --> 00:47:50,260 Well, can I actually, did we get 1,500 Tne Grotto, we didn't get that yet? 503 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,700 No, we did not give 1,500 in the road. 504 00:47:53,140 --> 00:47:55,880 But it wasn't anticipated and it's that N18, it was anticipated. 505 00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:04,680 So, I mean, I've discussed this with the auditor and I think that we are trying to find 506 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:09,280 a bunch of little pockets in order to try to get to this gap that we have from 0 to 1.99. 507 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:15,740 So, there's a couple of dollars that are around from the interest for the 14 million. 508 00:48:15,780 --> 00:48:21,880 There's a couple of dollars that we didn't anticipate for the permits, you know. 509 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,840 Yeah, but I think that, I think that, I think maybe our reserve front collected, maybe 510 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,940 you're talking about the formula, but what if we break the formula? 511 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:29,960 Maybe you don't know the answer. 512 00:48:30,380 --> 00:48:32,160 What if you can't break the formula? 513 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:37,020 But I think that there's other things that we need to be concerned about. 514 00:48:37,020 --> 00:48:45,480 we need to try to leave the budget the way it is when you talk about some legal expenses 515 00:48:46,020 --> 00:48:52,360 that we've seen this year that are higher and we're going to probably need transfers 516 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:59,720 at the end of the year when you talk about overtime there's a lot of issues coming up that 517 00:49:01,100 --> 00:49:06,020 we really need to be concerned about this budget. I mean this isn't, I mean I don't even recommend 518 00:49:06,020 --> 00:49:12,320 that we go to 1.9 million. We should be at 3.41, huh? Either do I. I'm not recommend 519 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:17,320 we go to 1.99. Councilman so and then deputy mayor. So again, I just want to get an explanation 520 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:21,320 was we'd we'd always been told this is something that Councilman Castle and I had discussed 521 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:26,380 as that is that the Reserve for Uncollected Taxes was a rigidly defined formula that was 522 00:49:26,380 --> 00:49:30,120 inviolable that we couldn't touch it. It could never be changed. It was no way we could 523 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:35,540 we could get anything out of it. So while I'm glad to see 117,000 that we can take out of 524 00:49:35,540 --> 00:49:38,780 In the budget, again, I'm not saying that we can bust that. 525 00:49:38,860 --> 00:49:41,760 I just want to understand how, number one, how we were able to do that. 526 00:49:42,260 --> 00:49:47,040 The second just for clarification, in terms of building permit fees. 527 00:49:47,220 --> 00:49:52,120 In 16, we budgeted 900,000 and we received 1.7 million. 528 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:58,280 That was an extra 800,000, which we were able to put into surplus, which covered other expenditures. 529 00:49:58,900 --> 00:50:04,460 In 17, we budgeted that same revenue from 16 of 1.7 million. 530 00:50:04,460 --> 00:50:15,880 And we came in short by 1.1 million, and that's a double whammy, because not only we were 600,000 short but we're taking out of surplus rather than putting back in. 531 00:50:16,460 --> 00:50:24,000 We can't budget more than 1.1 million, because that's what we received last year, even if we know we're going to receive it. 532 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:30,400 what we could possibly do is possibly, is they look, if we know, if the actual receipts 533 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,400 are higher, we can, we can't go any higher than the 1.1 million, again, other than 534 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:38,460 that adjustment, but just say, look, you know, if we know or are confident that we're 535 00:50:38,460 --> 00:50:41,880 going to have that much more of a question, maybe we can go after the question. 536 00:50:42,340 --> 00:50:46,720 And again, the question is whether that's the, so what we could do, but we would need 537 00:50:46,720 --> 00:50:51,160 to know what the estimate and what the target would be for that revenue. 538 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:57,460 Those projects, as you said, in this mostly 1500-tonic road, and the Verizon Building 539 00:50:57,460 --> 00:51:00,400 and 7075 World of Wings, what is that revenue? 540 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:01,840 Where will we be for this year? 541 00:51:02,260 --> 00:51:07,360 We heard from the manager in terms of the 1-inch lines that there is a plethora of activity. 542 00:51:07,580 --> 00:51:10,620 I'm doing project during the winter time. 543 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:15,280 I'm doing the project where I know I will be hit with an added assessment. 544 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:16,900 There is added money coming in. 545 00:51:16,900 --> 00:51:20,800 and can we dip into that? Should we dip into that? How much is available? 546 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:27,140 There's no way we should dip into it. I think we've got to be careful because if we say 547 00:51:27,140 --> 00:51:30,240 this too loud about dipping in, the mayor is going to come and shootin' through the window. 548 00:51:32,460 --> 00:51:37,840 So just when we're ready to vote, we'll mention it. All right, Devin Mayor for it. 549 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:45,280 We had a zero tax increase for three years, 550 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:53,480 but we didn't have a zero spending decrease 551 00:51:54,340 --> 00:51:55,360 for three years. 552 00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:06,480 We found out money in surplus, so it looked like a zero tax increase, but we still had 553 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,000 to spend money to fill the gap. 554 00:52:09,420 --> 00:52:12,180 And when we take the surplus down to a certain level, 555 00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,520 the AA-2 rating the Moody's has is threatened. 556 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:22,040 So we had a couple of good years and we got by. 557 00:52:22,900 --> 00:52:27,620 We don't have that money right now to plan that way. 558 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:34,600 The other way is we starved the capital. 559 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:42,820 So the road center had rain inside last month because we didn't fix the roof. 560 00:52:43,860 --> 00:52:51,140 This building is falling down because we have an allocated capital necessary to repair 561 00:52:51,140 --> 00:52:51,480 it. 562 00:52:51,900 --> 00:52:54,520 Don't even begin to talk about BVW. 563 00:52:55,120 --> 00:53:00,760 We need to provide the money necessary to run the town. 564 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:10,860 And I'm not advocating for spending a dollar more than necessary, but to land on zero because it sounds good. 565 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:12,820 It's just every possible. 566 00:53:14,020 --> 00:53:15,800 I want to land on zero because it looks good. 567 00:53:16,660 --> 00:53:18,640 Okay. Well, that just sounds good, and it is good. 568 00:53:19,740 --> 00:53:20,840 Any other council members? 569 00:53:21,720 --> 00:53:21,800 No? 570 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:23,140 All right, yes, council members. 571 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:29,760 If I just, just again, we have kept our spending the same. 572 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,260 Again, the spending has been pretty consistent. 573 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:32,940 We have not gone over 71 million. 574 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:34,280 We have kept it consistent. 575 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:39,140 The question is that one of the things that we can count as revenue is the money that 576 00:53:39,140 --> 00:53:39,800 we take from surplus. 577 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:44,180 We started 2017 with a little bit over 8 million in surplus. 578 00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:49,660 We were able to use 80% of that, so we put in 6.4 million into our budget, and we count 579 00:53:49,660 --> 00:53:51,320 that as revenue. 580 00:53:51,820 --> 00:53:52,580 It's not revenue. 581 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,100 It's money that we took from ourselves from our bank account. 582 00:53:55,100 --> 00:54:00,440 Now, when we put back less than that, and we started this year, Mr. 583 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:05,020 Magitz would be of 6.3 million, just a little bit over 6 million. 584 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:10,120 So we could only, based on the order of guidance, use 80% of that, that's 4.8 million. 585 00:54:10,340 --> 00:54:11,660 That's where that big change is. 586 00:54:12,300 --> 00:54:21,900 It's some of the increases in, as you said, the loss of revenue, because we lost $600,000 in building permit fees, that's 1%. 587 00:54:22,580 --> 00:54:28,340 If we had kept that $1.7 million, we would have been able to budget the $1.7 million again, 588 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:33,620 and we would have had $600,000 in surplus, which meant we could have used $480,000 of that money. 589 00:54:34,420 --> 00:54:36,200 So, again, it's a double whammy. 590 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:41,140 We have been able to keep spending pretty level, which I think is pretty remarkable, 591 00:54:41,620 --> 00:54:44,200 but the question is, are we dipping into surplus? 592 00:54:44,980 --> 00:54:50,400 And one of the things that I always wanted to see, it is one of my failures over these past four years, 593 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:55,880 is that as we go along to hear the manager saying, okay, if the year ends based on 594 00:54:55,880 --> 00:55:01,260 my projections, if the year ends now, surplus will be up a million, down a million, 595 00:55:01,420 --> 00:55:07,800 down 500,000, and unless we start, unless this new council starts actively managing 596 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,840 that surplus number, we really don't know where we are. 597 00:55:11,500 --> 00:55:15,420 And you're right, Mr. Deputy Mayor, that in previous years, and Councilman Counselor 598 00:55:15,420 --> 00:55:19,020 said this before, you know, we've heard these dire projections that if we go down, 599 00:55:19,020 --> 00:55:22,480 that the sky is going to collapse, and it hasn't. 600 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:23,860 So why can't we go down lower? 601 00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:29,520 The question is, we are eating into surplus, and we either need to make changes in 602 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:34,840 what we spend, not what we budget, what we spend, or, you know, we're going to keep 603 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,140 on dipping into that surplus. 604 00:55:36,460 --> 00:55:41,400 And I, you know, the question is, what, what spending items can we, can we dip into? 605 00:55:41,700 --> 00:55:43,560 You know, are we going to cut over time? 606 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,300 We've used a lot of it as the manager has indicated. 607 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,340 Are we going to put money back in? 608 00:55:48,340 --> 00:55:56,840 I would love, I would love to tell our tree, shade tree advisory board members that we're putting that money back in because it really is a shame that we're not doing it. 609 00:55:57,260 --> 00:56:10,240 It's a, you know, we really can't capitalize that, but you can capitalize trees, even though they do last more than three years, but again, we should find mechanisms to do that, but should it be done in the budget, and that's a question of how to do that. 610 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:16,560 I would love to eliminate things, again, for four years, we've spoken about council paid health care. I would love to eliminate that. 611 00:56:17,140 --> 00:56:25,120 We've discussed and I would have been happy to make it on April 24th when there was still a prayer maybe that it would be here on July 1st to eliminate council pay salaries. 612 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,540 Maybe now is the time to take that back. 613 00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:35,020 Those are things that would be real reductions in spending and we have to ask ourselves are we willing to do that? 614 00:56:35,940 --> 00:56:39,760 Where is our surplus target now and what changes are we willing to make? 615 00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:49,560 because if we don't make changes tonight, if we don't have a budget in place that could be passed on June 19th, we're passing on 1.99% budget because it will be the only thing that we will have as an option. 616 00:56:49,980 --> 00:56:57,620 If you don't have a budget that's in state format that can be put in for adoption, we can't possibly pass it. 617 00:56:58,580 --> 00:57:04,340 I just want to add, I mean, I agree with a lot of what Councilman Sones said. 618 00:57:04,820 --> 00:57:10,300 My only concern is this issue of Council managing the surplus and what the target should 619 00:57:10,300 --> 00:57:10,520 be. 620 00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:12,920 I would be very concerned about that. 621 00:57:12,980 --> 00:57:17,120 I think that Council has professionals here. 622 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:21,040 We usually have a CFO to manage that process of surplus. 623 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:26,020 I think our surplus target should be zero. 624 00:57:26,020 --> 00:57:30,160 So, our target should be to get off of surplus. 625 00:57:30,820 --> 00:57:35,960 When I first started here, we were using $3 million a year of surplus. 626 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:37,640 Surplus is our savings. 627 00:57:38,940 --> 00:57:43,360 Now we're using 4.7, 4.8. 628 00:57:44,060 --> 00:57:49,140 Last year, we used 5.7, we're going the wrong way. 629 00:57:49,340 --> 00:57:53,680 We should be trying to get ourselves off of using surplus. 630 00:57:54,380 --> 00:57:58,040 I'm just going to quote Councilman Castell, you're using the wrong pronoun. 631 00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:05,480 It's not ours, it's the taxpayers, so by using it now, which we precollected for, 632 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:09,740 I believe that's the term that the Councilman Castell used, by precollecting for it. 633 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:16,760 Now we want to return it back as a payment towards that levy that we're now reducing because of the surplus. 634 00:58:17,060 --> 00:58:23,660 So I understand we want to keep something, but we have other venues available if you're 635 00:58:23,660 --> 00:58:52,200 In case we need money, now I'm not saying we're going to have to zero, but I think we're still at a healthy number, especially with all our additional new one offs coming in, the three and a 30, 40 houses under construction, I have on Bay 1500, I thought they submitted it, but they should be submitting it soon, and of course we have our hotel coming online in August and our 127 unit building coming online, hopefully the next few weeks, so I'm very comfortable with this, but we should use all of these things we have coming online, 636 00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:57,580 or the things we should use to get us into a better financial solution. 637 00:58:57,580 --> 00:59:01,400 But no, absolutely, zero percent next year, and sockaway surplus. 638 00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:05,000 You know, looking at some rough back in African myth, we're heading to a very, 639 00:59:05,060 --> 00:59:09,300 very good position in TNIC, and the only reason to, you know, what Councilman 640 00:59:09,300 --> 00:59:11,780 Sonlay out there, one of the really reasons we're only here right now at this 641 00:59:11,780 --> 00:59:16,100 number, is because that missed with Avalon 1500 that we thought were coming in 642 00:59:16,100 --> 00:59:21,380 last year, and we had that, that number, we'd be at 1.4 at a most, if not zero, 643 00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,760 So I think we're doing, I think we're doing really good, and I also think, and 644 00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:30,260 I made this comment earlier on, on social media, if we have to go to our taxpayers 645 00:59:30,260 --> 00:59:35,380 after three years of zero and say, I need $67 after four, and by the fourth year, 646 00:59:35,500 --> 00:59:37,940 I need $67, I'm proud of that number. 647 00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:39,120 And I think you should be as well. 648 00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:43,410 Sotomayor, you should be 100%. 649 00:59:43,410 --> 00:59:47,730 So, you know, I'll make it $101, so I think the average tax bill of $15,000, that comes 650 00:59:47,730 --> 00:59:51,090 out to about 110 after four years, also fine with that. 651 00:59:51,090 --> 00:59:56,750 No, no, no, I'm saying I'm saying we're we're the three to number average assessed value I think come up with a number 652 00:59:56,750 --> 00:59:59,970 I'm sure there's a formula for it, but again, again, make that an 653 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:07,520 The average bill of $15,000, and it's $100,000. What are we going to do tonight? Do we have suggested cuts? 654 01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,260 So I do wait till next meeting to do the suggested cuts. 655 01:00:11,380 --> 01:00:12,680 We can't. Okay. 656 01:00:13,220 --> 01:00:20,980 But I did want to just a quick question from our attorney because we're budgeting about a quarter million dollars for negotiations. 657 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:29,940 And I know that we've been doing negotiations, but I'd kind of like to have a forecast of what negotiations are going to put us at that number of a quarter million dollars. 658 01:00:29,940 --> 01:00:31,160 We really can't tell. 659 01:00:31,820 --> 01:00:36,340 We're budgeting a total amount for legal of a million twenty. 660 01:00:36,740 --> 01:00:37,300 No, no. 661 01:00:37,900 --> 01:00:41,340 Okay, so that's the question I really wanted to ask, but I was going to piecemeal it. 662 01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:47,120 But since you brought the big number, we sent, you know, we took measures years ago, 663 01:00:47,500 --> 01:00:53,440 a couple of years ago, to try to curtail our legal budget, but it doesn't seem to be curtailing. 664 01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:55,020 I think it's curtailing. 665 01:00:55,020 --> 01:01:00,840 I think we use last year we spent something like 980 or something like that. 666 01:01:01,020 --> 01:01:13,440 I mean, for a town of this size, we have a million, 20, and we only have $40,000 left in legal, I mean, to me, that's cutting it very, very close. 667 01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:23,040 My question was just, we've been in closed session and even in open session talking about some of the negotiations that we are expecting to incur, you know, 668 01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:28,440 expenses for, it was my understanding at this point, particularly based on what we're 669 01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:32,860 building out, or what we're being charged $175,000 an hour, that we were really, really 670 01:01:32,860 --> 01:01:33,220 close. 671 01:01:33,860 --> 01:01:37,360 I'm just asking what negotiations are in the pipeline that are going to get us to that 672 01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:41,800 quarter-million-dollar number that we've allocated specifically and explicitly in our budget 673 01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:42,880 for negotiations. 674 01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:48,180 I'd have to say what the attorney had talked about that if we were to come up with a target 675 01:01:48,180 --> 01:01:48,580 number. 676 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,340 What other contracts are we negotiating with them asking? 677 01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:58,460 I know that we are pretty close to ending police negotiation contract for the police department. 678 01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:00,860 Do we have fire, do we have- 679 01:02:00,860 --> 01:02:03,540 Yes, we have police, fire, and DPW? 680 01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,460 Yeah, DPW, right, and file. 681 01:02:06,980 --> 01:02:07,140 Okay. 682 01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:15,040 And as we've been having these conversations and discussing these, we've exhausted very few hours in these negotiations. 683 01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:18,680 So I'm trying to understand how we get to the quarter million dollar number. 684 01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:24,480 If we're only meeting with these unions and these groups for, you know, two hours at most years. 685 01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:31,740 Right, that is, so the quarter million dollar number is just a number we break out on. 686 01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:39,800 Labor expenses for legal work period when it comes to labor, okay? 687 01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:48,680 Okay, the whole million-twenty is really one budget of money that we're using for various items. 688 01:02:48,700 --> 01:02:55,780 Even some settlements come out of the million-twenty as well, so no, no, okay. 689 01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,160 Here's my, this is very specific to me. 690 01:02:58,500 --> 01:03:00,280 We have a million-twenty for legal. 691 01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:05,380 We have in our budget allocated a quarter million dollars for negotiations. 692 01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:07,840 We arrived at that number somehow. 693 01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:29,620 So when we, and the reason I asked this question, and the reason it's so important to me is because when we decide that we want to tell our rank and file that we're going to hold them to a certain percentage, and then that $250,000 that we budgeted for negotiations can exceed the amount that they're asking for for, you know, one provision or another. 694 01:03:29,620 --> 01:03:34,700 I'd like to know what negotiations we're budgeting for, because it would seem 695 01:03:34,700 --> 01:03:40,700 odd to spend more on negotiations than to spend what they're asking for. 696 01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:46,280 So my question very specifically is, if we're spending the $1,000,000 negotiations, 697 01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:52,120 what negotiations are we anticipating that are going to cost us a $1,000,000? 698 01:03:52,120 --> 01:04:00,920 I'm going to address that because Dr. Probe, Deputy Mayor Probe, before you jump in if I could just address Councilman Castell's question. 699 01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:07,840 It's not, it's probably misnamed negotiations, that's a holdover from years before I was here. 700 01:04:07,980 --> 01:04:14,240 It really should be designated as labor council, not negotiations because that number is inclusive of negotiations, 701 01:04:14,980 --> 01:04:20,640 disciplinary matters, agreements as consultations, workers compensation. 702 01:04:21,780 --> 01:04:24,900 There's a whole list of items that go into that budget item. 703 01:04:25,660 --> 01:04:30,140 All right, so I guess the question is, let's just wrap it this up and see if we're 704 01:04:30,140 --> 01:04:31,600 as consensus here. 705 01:04:32,140 --> 01:04:38,580 Well, I just got one follow-up because I've got to go, just on labor, because Mr. 706 01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:42,900 Schedini used to be our labor counsel, so if that's our labor number, how does that 707 01:04:42,900 --> 01:04:45,220 number compare to our previous labor contract? 708 01:04:46,620 --> 01:04:52,980 I believe the budgeted number is the same number, but we definitely have spent less last year. 709 01:04:53,420 --> 01:04:59,060 The calculation was close to $100,000 less on labor than we spent in the year before our firm became labor counsel. 710 01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:00,400 Okay. 711 01:05:00,980 --> 01:05:01,960 Okay, I have a question. 712 01:05:02,020 --> 01:05:02,720 Yes, Deputy Mayor. 713 01:05:05,740 --> 01:05:07,200 I'm a maintenance person. 714 01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:15,680 It bothers me to go upstairs and have the wall covered with a four by eight foot piece 715 01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:22,020 of plywood, unbothered by going down the hallway and having the door blocked to downstairs 716 01:05:22,020 --> 01:05:29,500 with a board, unbothered going down to the ramp and having a sixty foot crack in the wall, 717 01:05:30,060 --> 01:05:36,200 unbothered by looking at the windows around the base of the building when they're held 718 01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:45,300 up by 4x8s or 2x4s if you pull those out the wall falls down. We're so focused on not 719 01:05:45,300 --> 01:05:52,520 spending any money that we're adding to a possibility of having to spend more money. 720 01:05:53,340 --> 01:06:01,240 So my question is, how do we get a capital discussion where we can maintain the facilities 721 01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:08,160 is that we have, I'm not even talking about DPW, that's a separate issue. But the facilities 722 01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:17,800 here is mold downstairs, that's not satisfactory to me. This building is in bad shape. The 723 01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:22,780 rotors center roof has been needed to be repaired for a long time and people who had to use 724 01:06:22,780 --> 01:06:31,760 their umbrellas when one of the rainstorms recently we cannot run the township and not spend 725 01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:38,700 money. So I want to know where are we with the capital for things that we need to do and 726 01:06:38,700 --> 01:06:44,060 I know we spend some money on roads because that's politically popular. But we need to spend 727 01:06:44,060 --> 01:06:48,800 some money on some other things so that nobody gets hit in the head by a falling ceiling 728 01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:50,920 And, and, and, and walls come in down. 729 01:06:51,180 --> 01:06:51,640 Councilor Smith. 730 01:06:51,660 --> 01:06:52,880 Anybody can answer that they like? 731 01:06:54,100 --> 01:06:58,720 There are no houses at 382, 295 because we round to the nearest 100. 732 01:06:58,940 --> 01:07:03,800 But there are two houses, and I can give the exact addresses that are exactly at 382, 300. 733 01:07:04,780 --> 01:07:11,420 The majority of houses, there are 76, 86 houses out of about 11,000 that are below that number. 734 01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:16,000 Again, because we have, that's 382, 295 is the average value. 735 01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:19,920 the more houses far above that number than far below that number. 736 01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:25,540 Going back, and again, this is just an essence to reiterate what the Councilman 737 01:07:25,540 --> 01:07:30,940 Schwartz was indicating, by following Schwartz 600,000 in revenue from permits, 738 01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:33,140 we were Schwartz 600,000. 739 01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:38,400 We also decreased surplus by 600,000, and we would have used 80% of that of 480. 740 01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:39,620 That's a million 80. 741 01:07:40,020 --> 01:07:42,200 That is almost exactly two points on the rate. 742 01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:47,480 It is that shortfall that basically is why we're here. 743 01:07:48,620 --> 01:07:52,580 I would like to see if we can have some further suggestions, but I don't think we're going 744 01:07:52,580 --> 01:07:53,340 to resolve this. 745 01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:59,040 What I'd like to suggest is that we do have some additional meetings of the Budget Subcommittee 746 01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:05,900 that we do sit down with the manager that perhaps we can come up with an alternative budget 747 01:08:05,900 --> 01:08:11,760 other than the 1.99, and again, I already see that you're looking at the clock and let's 748 01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:14,000 Let's hear what the residents have to say. 749 01:08:14,340 --> 01:08:21,120 Let's see if anyone wants to run down what we should add in or take out, again, if we have any other discussion and then open good and welfare and take the soft line. 750 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:32,980 I just wanted to add one point is that, especially in terms of revenue, why it's important to look at this more than just one year because of the fact that that one year difference that Mr. 751 01:08:32,980 --> 01:08:39,920 to councilman's own just mentioned, I think we were to look at this even out of five year analysis, 752 01:08:40,220 --> 01:08:44,540 especially over these next few years where we're anticipating new income which we haven't in the past received. 753 01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,760 I think that would help us in terms of moving forward. 754 01:08:47,900 --> 01:08:49,660 I was, we look at this instead of just year over year. 755 01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:50,940 I just wanted to make that comment. 756 01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:56,480 And also to second councilman's own, if the subcommittee would be interested, 757 01:08:56,620 --> 01:09:01,880 but I also want to appreciate and appreciate the manager for at least demonstrating 758 01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:23,840 where we went from the three point initially, down to the one nine nine, and thank you very much for just, you know, sharpening the pencil and looking at opportunities for additional savings, but I also want to reiterate Dr. Pruitt's point of in terms of capital and infrastructure, we really can't afford to short change our residents and create hazardous conditions. 759 01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,320 Okay. Okay. Just, once I can count some of the first. 760 01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:27,600 So first. 761 01:09:27,620 --> 01:09:29,940 He's just very quickly, I agree 100 percent. 762 01:09:30,100 --> 01:09:34,260 I also want to emphasize that, again, the manager didn't start at 3.41. 763 01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,920 What he started with was closer to 6. 764 01:09:37,660 --> 01:09:41,580 Again, I think we were all benefit from seeing what was changed in that from going 765 01:09:41,580 --> 01:09:42,660 6 to 3.41. 766 01:09:43,100 --> 01:09:47,380 The 3.41 was what was first presented to us, that this was not the first budget that he 767 01:09:47,380 --> 01:09:50,640 started with, but I think we would benefit from seeing that as well. 768 01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:55,800 I just want to add, Dr. Pruitt raised some questions about capital. 769 01:09:56,620 --> 01:10:09,020 We have a 2018 capital budget that we need to, council needs to approve or authorize spending for those capital projects. 770 01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:11,620 That needs to be done like yesterday. 771 01:10:12,300 --> 01:10:14,800 One of the items in there is the road ascent of roof. 772 01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:27,340 So, if I was to bring counsel the capital ordinance on June 19th, and counsel introduced 773 01:10:27,340 --> 01:10:35,060 it on June 19th, then the next meeting, at least 10 days has to go by, then counsel 774 01:10:35,060 --> 01:10:42,820 can adopt it, then 20 days have to go by, the Estoppel period, then it becomes law. 775 01:10:42,820 --> 01:10:51,920 So you're talking about August for the capital ordinances to be in place where we could spend on them. 776 01:10:52,440 --> 01:10:58,980 If we don't get that in place, we're not going to be able to fix the roof on the road of Santa, and we're going to go through another year. 777 01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:07,160 Does anyone on council have any objection to councilman's son's suggestion that they meet once again and see if they can sharpen? 778 01:11:08,220 --> 01:11:09,380 Are we good? Everyone's a yes? 779 01:11:09,380 --> 01:11:22,140 Yes, but I do have one request and I want to, I want to end this term in the same way I started it and that like for the budget subcommittee to also meet with our legal team to look at that budget as well. 780 01:11:22,860 --> 01:11:28,020 Because last year we budgeted a quarter million dollars for labor and we spent 14,000, right? 781 01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:32,840 We budgeted 1,000,000, 20,000 and we spent 936. 782 01:11:36,440 --> 01:11:43,920 I just want to better understand where we're allocating certain dollars and since when it comes to our legal bills. 783 01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:51,840 Because one of the very first things that we did, if not the first thing that we did after being elected before being sworn in was sat with legal. 784 01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:58,000 Because that number was hovering around a million and we expanded the retainer agreement and we did all these different things. 785 01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:01,800 But now we have, we're talking about large expenditures that we want to cut. 786 01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:06,040 If we budgeted a quarter million for labor negotiations last year in labor council, 787 01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:09,940 and we spent 14,000, and when I go back and I look at 2017 was 20, 788 01:12:11,260 --> 01:12:17,760 2050, 2016 was 300,000, 2014, or 2015 was 200,000, and then 2014 was 300. 789 01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:22,180 There are fluctuations there that mean that we're either not. 790 01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:25,420 All right, so I think you can't cut from there. 791 01:12:25,420 --> 01:12:29,520 I'm going to end this part because we're going to start good amount for in seven minutes. 792 01:12:29,660 --> 01:12:33,500 I just want to go into the one-inch line quickly, and that's it. 793 01:12:33,620 --> 01:12:35,880 But would I just say that one's on tiny thing? 794 01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:40,240 Tiny, like to go along with the budget subcommittee. 795 01:12:40,440 --> 01:12:47,820 Is it okay if we come back with the capital items that need to, to, to, to, to me, 796 01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:51,020 to be able to go, I'm going to go to the bank and come back with as long as it's a zero. 797 01:12:51,180 --> 01:12:55,360 I mean, you know, and again, my only question is, again, I would love to 798 01:12:55,360 --> 01:13:03,220 I'm happy to go into details on any budget line, again, with Councilman Castle, but if any other council member has any suggestion, what we should be looking into, absolutely, would be my right. 799 01:13:03,440 --> 01:13:03,900 I think it's okay. 800 01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:05,780 I'll find next another guy, Mayber. 801 01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:07,880 I have to go to Bill Muffler in seven minutes. 802 01:13:08,420 --> 01:13:09,440 All right, one inch water line. 803 01:13:09,940 --> 01:13:15,900 I saw the report as everyone knows from seeing my frustration. 804 01:13:16,100 --> 01:13:21,880 This is the first time in 20 years that I've gotten so many complaints about this one inch water line. 805 01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:30,260 I understand that the law might have been changed a few years ago, but still this bulk of the complaints have been in the last few months. 806 01:13:31,300 --> 01:13:36,920 So what I would like to request is that I'm not going to try to fight City Hall on this. 807 01:13:37,380 --> 01:13:43,760 I would like to say that especially when someone's not building a house, when they're adding a toilet, and it throws them over, 808 01:13:43,820 --> 01:13:51,160 it adds a sink and it throws them over, that they're given the ability to sign a waiver that will be 809 01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:57,380 They stored with the fire department so that when they sell their house, that waiver is presented 810 01:13:57,380 --> 01:14:00,620 with the fire certificate that they're given. 811 01:14:01,060 --> 01:14:06,660 But this way, it is known to whoever buys it, that this is what the story is with, 812 01:14:06,860 --> 01:14:13,640 that the waiver was signed, and whoever's living there will know that they, you know, 813 01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:15,600 absolve the township of any responsibility. 814 01:14:16,300 --> 01:14:17,400 That is my request. 815 01:14:18,340 --> 01:14:19,100 Yes, jump on. 816 01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:23,200 Well, no, no. 817 01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:32,400 Okay, me on the same thing that when a new person buys a house, they're not responsible for a one-inch war line either. 818 01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:40,240 The answer is the new person may or may not buy the house because the old person who's selling it has to give them a fire certificate 819 01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:44,960 and the certificate stating that they signed a waiver that it's not a one-inch line. 820 01:14:45,540 --> 01:14:52,540 I don't know. I'm trying to understand it. You're giving a waiver for not having a one-inch line to the people who live in the house. 821 01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:57,680 Correct. And that waiver will be placed in a permanent place with the fire department. 822 01:14:58,440 --> 01:14:59,980 Are you saying you give a... 823 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:27,980 The next set of people also? If the next set of people choose to buy the house, knowing that this waiver has been signed, then yes, it's on them. But the bottom line is that the counter is not now no longer responsible, no longer liable, a waiver has been signed, and buyer beware for the next person so that it's not, oh, I didn't know about it, because they're regiven it when they get the fire certificate. Can we get the way in on that? Mr. Manager. 824 01:15:27,980 --> 01:15:48,300 I mean, I understand your frustration and concern about this issue but unfortunately it's state law and the construction official would not be able to issue a certificate of occupancy if he does not follow the state law. 825 01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:53,800 I mean, I don't know of any way that you can get around estates. 826 01:15:54,800 --> 01:16:05,660 Somehow out of 70 towns in Bergen County, we are the glaring example in Suez of the ones who enforce the state law. 827 01:16:05,900 --> 01:16:10,260 And I'm sure there's, or maybe I'm not looking for anyone not to enforce the law, but 828 01:16:10,260 --> 01:16:17,500 I'm saying is that we have gone a waiver that were protected as a town. 829 01:16:17,500 --> 01:16:22,500 And the homeowner decides if they want to run two sinks, two dishwashers, three bathrooms, 830 01:16:23,020 --> 01:16:28,980 an outside garden hose in their grass sprinkles all at the same time. 831 01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:32,240 Mr. Epidemiara, I fully support your change. 832 01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:36,200 I understand the manager's concerns, and can we ask now that the attorney is fully 833 01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:42,720 caffeinated, that we get him working on this and see if there are any avenues that are available 834 01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:44,040 as options to- 835 01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:48,280 And the other thing can add, if other municipalities aren't bound by this could be also 836 01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:51,400 inquired with other municipalities, how they're getting around it, if we're the only 837 01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:54,480 ones that are holding the law, there's going to be some, perhaps, some other option. 838 01:16:54,480 --> 01:16:58,800 Well, I mean, our construction official is check what anger would, is check what hack and 839 01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:01,760 sack, and they're enforcing the law. 840 01:17:02,180 --> 01:17:05,820 If I can just comment on that, I just want to let you know the way all contractors talk is what 841 01:17:05,820 --> 01:17:07,180 they, I mean, they speak to you in TNIC. 842 01:17:07,500 --> 01:17:11,040 TNIC is, is the worst, no, I don't take jobs in TNIC, it's still a worse town. 843 01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:13,180 Now, then you go to Bergerfield, the Bergerfield is awful. 844 01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:15,000 I don't want to work in Bergerfield for the worst. 845 01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:20,160 And I've caught the same guy saying it, like, it's just, that's what they all say a lot of that's why. 846 01:17:20,620 --> 01:17:24,520 So, just so I can make sure I'm fully understanding this argument. 847 01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:28,960 So, let's say you have a, and just sort of take the public as well. 848 01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:34,600 So let's say I've got a master bathroom, and it has one basin with one sink. 849 01:17:35,440 --> 01:17:39,900 And my wife and I say, you know what, you need yours, I need mine, and we expand it. 850 01:17:39,900 --> 01:17:46,340 And then we find out that we need this one-inch water pipe, and that one-inch water pipe adds $16,000 in cost. 851 01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:54,720 This one basin that we've decided to add is going to inflate the cost by thousands of dollars. 852 01:17:54,820 --> 01:17:57,600 That's exactly what's happening. You can decide that you don't want the basin. 853 01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:03,100 But my question, and I think this kind of dovetails what the Deputy Mayor is asking is, 854 01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:11,320 If I simply decide that the minuscule decrease in water pressure is going to occur 855 01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:14,500 by having those two faucet on at the same time is something I can live with. 856 01:18:14,540 --> 01:18:16,000 Broshes their teeth with their spouse. 857 01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:18,260 That's your little thing. 858 01:18:19,180 --> 01:18:19,960 Let's take real life. 859 01:18:20,260 --> 01:18:26,960 No, I don't think it is that, actually, if you read it, it's complicated. 860 01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:33,960 It involves user groups, and it involves the total number of fixtures and the types 861 01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:35,120 of fixtures. 862 01:18:35,300 --> 01:18:39,740 It involves the type of service delivery pipe. 863 01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:46,140 If you have a copper pipe versus that plastic answer question, is it the equation? 864 01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:49,180 If you look at the amount numbers, that could possibly throw you over. 865 01:18:50,740 --> 01:18:55,180 So what you're suggesting is a change that would allow them to sign a waiver that's 866 01:18:55,180 --> 01:18:57,780 that they are okay with the reduction in water pressure, 867 01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:00,280 so they don't incur that additional thousands of them. 868 01:19:00,300 --> 01:19:02,220 And what the argument's going to be, well, 869 01:19:02,440 --> 01:19:04,720 we have a responsibility to the next homeowner 870 01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:07,820 to alert them to make sure that it's done right 871 01:19:07,820 --> 01:19:11,660 that we respect, yes, and the next homeowner will be alerted, 872 01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:13,080 and they may lose the deal. 873 01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:15,520 Listen, I may lose the sale of my house 874 01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:17,800 because the next person sees that I signed a waiver, 875 01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:19,900 and then they say, you know what, I don't want to buy the house. 876 01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:23,000 Or I may have to take the $10,000 decrease on my house 877 01:19:24,460 --> 01:19:28,100 to the next buyer, so that they can increase the line, you know, because that's, 878 01:19:28,620 --> 01:19:29,380 but that's my option. 879 01:19:29,700 --> 01:19:31,260 But couldn't we just draw the rational conclusion? 880 01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:32,900 And there's high-priced lawyer in the room. 881 01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:36,500 And their house, they wouldn't be able to get a legal opinion on whether Elie Katz could write 882 01:19:36,500 --> 01:19:37,880 legislation or not. 883 01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:40,360 Well, again, just get counsel and castle. 884 01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:42,940 I was exact, I could have been exactly in that vote. 885 01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:46,080 I convert, we're in the process of converting a half-bath to a full-bath. 886 01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:50,820 And that calculation could have turned out that it just put us over the edge because if 887 01:19:50,820 --> 01:19:55,720 If we run all of our showers simultaneously and all of our sinks and flush all of our toilets and 888 01:19:56,250 --> 01:20:00,660 wash all of our dishes and run the washing machine, we might not have enough capacity. 889 01:20:01,260 --> 01:20:03,440 Now, I think the suggestion makes sense. 890 01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:09,080 If it put me over and I said, look, I understand that I might not be able to have that capacity. 891 01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:16,140 I'm willing to live with that and I will let the next buyer know that there may not be adequate water pressure and water capacity. 892 01:20:16,140 --> 01:20:20,920 I think that's appropriate. I understand the manager's concerns, and I think that's why I think 893 01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:23,300 asking the attorney, so I know to investigate it as well. 894 01:20:23,300 --> 01:20:24,200 I'll come back with the next meeting. 895 01:20:24,820 --> 01:20:28,140 You want to come back with it will be billed under negotiation. 896 01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:33,580 All right. Now, ladies and gentlemen, we've come to the best part of the council meeting. 897 01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:38,300 This is a good and welfare proportion. First of all, can I get a motion from the council 898 01:20:38,300 --> 01:20:39,220 to move to welfare? 899 01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:40,540 Second. 900 01:20:40,900 --> 01:20:41,380 All in favor? 901 01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:41,860 Aye. 902 01:20:41,860 --> 01:20:47,200 Okay, there's an opportunity for any residents to come, state your name, you have three minutes. 903 01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:51,940 If Council responds to you, it's not going to be till after everybody speaks. 904 01:20:52,700 --> 01:20:55,660 If you do not get the response that you want at tonight, don't worry. 905 01:20:56,060 --> 01:21:02,400 All of our emails and phone numbers are on the website, as well as you can take the manager of the clerk's card. 906 01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:06,760 Or maybe Doug has cards, he can give them out tonight also. 907 01:21:07,420 --> 01:21:11,240 All right, so I now open up a good and welfare, come on up. 908 01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:32,420 Good evening, I'm Sandy Silverberg-Teneck, a quick court of appreciation to all those who ran for council this year, congratulations to the winners, and many thanks to Jason and Allen for their service you have made a difference. 909 01:21:33,220 --> 01:21:45,680 I'm here tonight in the capacity of President of the Friends of the Library with an invitation to all of you and to the entire township of Teneck to attend a brief celebration this coming Sunday June 4th. 910 01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:49,560 at 1 p.m. in the library honoring the service of Elizabeth 911 01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:53,140 Sure, longtime member and president of the Friends. 912 01:21:54,060 --> 01:21:55,880 Last Thursday, I attended the meeting 913 01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:57,960 about the Garden of Human Understanding. 914 01:21:58,500 --> 01:22:02,060 It was striking that this important project did not include 915 01:22:02,060 --> 01:22:05,900 any input from the Friends, who, while the community 916 01:22:05,900 --> 01:22:08,920 waits perhaps years for the project to be realized, 917 01:22:09,780 --> 01:22:12,380 already served the community in precisely 918 01:22:12,380 --> 01:22:15,180 Nicely, the spirit of the proposed monuments. 919 01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:21,760 The Friends was formed almost 40 years ago by a few folks in some bibliophiles house, 920 01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:29,560 and now it is a federally recognized 501c3 charity of close to 500 members and sponsors. 921 01:22:30,060 --> 01:22:36,140 The purpose of the Friends is to promote and enhance the offerings of the library, which we 922 01:22:36,140 --> 01:22:39,620 all acknowledge is the jewel in the crown of Tineck. 923 01:22:39,620 --> 01:22:53,460 As the mission of libraries evolves into cultural and intellectual centers, serving diverse populations by providing service that only begin with books, the friends raise money to expand this evolution. 924 01:22:54,200 --> 01:23:02,100 One of the highlights of the years are annual book DVD and CD sale. Sadly, I did not see any of you there. 925 01:23:02,100 --> 01:23:09,380 The money's raised allow us to sponsor activities such as monthly concerts, films, and discussions 926 01:23:09,380 --> 01:23:15,080 from the four corners of the earth in every language, museum passes, internet access to 927 01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:21,620 learning and testing software, children's programs, reading programs, yoga, and a TNAC 928 01:23:21,620 --> 01:23:24,420 merchant share program among other initiatives. 929 01:23:25,140 --> 01:23:29,580 Our annual membership drive in the fall completes our fundraising cycle. 930 01:23:29,580 --> 01:23:33,760 How many members of the council are friends of the library? 931 01:23:34,540 --> 01:23:38,860 How many members of the library board of trustees are friends? 932 01:23:39,700 --> 01:23:42,840 How many members of the monuments committee are friends? 933 01:23:43,420 --> 01:23:48,900 I can tell you, but I don't want to embarrass some of you tonight. 934 01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:52,220 We should all be supporting each other. 935 01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:55,040 We are natural allies. 936 01:23:55,040 --> 01:24:02,980 The friends give back to the library without putting any strain on the town budget. 937 01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:09,340 The friends is an all-volunteer organization funded exclusively by donation. 938 01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:11,780 But we need your support. 939 01:24:12,620 --> 01:24:14,900 Help us increase our visibility. 940 01:24:15,620 --> 01:24:21,420 We hope that you will recognize the friends contribution to the library and to the intersectional 941 01:24:21,420 --> 01:24:28,580 communities we serve, by joining the friends and by attending and promoting our events where everybody wins. 942 01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:32,980 I look forward to seeing you when you drop by the library with your chat. 943 01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:33,780 Thank you, Sandy. 944 01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:36,700 And here is your personal invitation. 945 01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:37,520 Give it to our clerk. 946 01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:39,260 To our- 947 01:24:39,260 --> 01:24:40,200 I'll give it to Doug. 948 01:24:40,780 --> 01:24:42,680 Our personal invitation to our event. 949 01:24:43,260 --> 01:24:43,840 And thank you. 950 01:24:44,220 --> 01:24:48,080 Sandy, thanks for all the great work you and your entire committee does for our library. 951 01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:49,560 Yes? 952 01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:49,680 Yes. 953 01:24:50,260 --> 01:24:51,500 I'll get you next, ma'am. 954 01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:56,740 Good evening. 955 01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:57,380 Council. 956 01:24:58,460 --> 01:25:06,060 Mr. Broughton, I just came to stay this evening to say thank you to the clerk's office for 957 01:25:06,060 --> 01:25:12,160 your assistance, for your level of professionalism, and for your efficiency. 958 01:25:12,700 --> 01:25:15,040 And I just want to say thank you for all that you do. 959 01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:19,740 And on behalf of the community, I say thank you, and we appreciate you. 960 01:25:20,340 --> 01:25:21,340 Thank you very much. 961 01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:23,680 Yes, 962 01:25:30,620 --> 01:25:33,100 if you can come to the mic, just state your name. 963 01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:34,740 The Shoddy Experiment, T-neck. 964 01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:36,280 You got that? 965 01:25:37,460 --> 01:25:37,540 Yeah. 966 01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:40,300 So I recently went to... 967 01:25:40,300 --> 01:25:41,000 Can you just raise a mic? 968 01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:41,440 I'm sorry. 969 01:25:41,620 --> 01:25:42,140 The rotors. 970 01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:45,080 And my daughter was in dance class. 971 01:25:45,380 --> 01:25:46,840 There's no dance class for her now. 972 01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:49,060 So I thought maybe her and a group of her, 973 01:25:49,300 --> 01:25:50,800 three-year-old friends, maybe five, 974 01:25:50,940 --> 01:25:53,680 could use the theater. 975 01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:57,860 And it's $80 for two hours each time. 976 01:25:57,860 --> 01:26:05,080 And I think that's kind of outrageous because when I haven't a party or a charge and anything and I feel that we should be able to use it 977 01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:10,280 even if we have to go into the rotors center and sign up each maybe Wednesday after school. 978 01:26:11,300 --> 01:26:23,540 So I'm asking for a review on those fees so that kids can enjoy the partner and not just the one section that we're kind of stuck to at the school and that's like the playground area. 979 01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:25,240 So that's on here. 980 01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:28,160 Thank you very much, and we'll respond after we close the program. 981 01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:31,200 Oh yeah, and I'd like to know who to get in contact with, like personal. 982 01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:32,580 You can take the manager's card. 983 01:26:32,900 --> 01:26:34,660 Thank you. 984 01:26:34,860 --> 01:26:35,040 Perfect. 985 01:26:35,700 --> 01:26:36,020 Yes, sir. 986 01:26:36,980 --> 01:26:37,780 And you'll go next. 987 01:26:37,980 --> 01:26:39,060 Let me just come up. 988 01:26:40,780 --> 01:26:41,960 I would have to, I have to. 989 01:26:51,010 --> 01:26:51,810 I'm sorry. 990 01:26:52,290 --> 01:26:54,030 Oh Richardson of TNIC. 991 01:26:54,230 --> 01:26:55,090 Can you hear me alright? 992 01:26:55,350 --> 01:26:56,210 Yes, Mr. Richardson. 993 01:26:58,590 --> 01:27:00,150 My timing couldn't be better. 994 01:27:00,150 --> 01:27:01,690 I can see that right now. 995 01:27:01,950 --> 01:27:08,310 I'm here as the Chair of the Social Services Advisory Board that our recent meeting came 996 01:27:08,310 --> 01:27:13,590 to our attention that there is a need at the rotissette for a social worker. 997 01:27:14,050 --> 01:27:18,250 Apparently, there used to be one there a full time and there no longer is. 998 01:27:19,110 --> 01:27:23,990 I did send an email out for distribution to all of you. 999 01:27:24,330 --> 01:27:25,090 It was short notice. 1000 01:27:25,570 --> 01:27:27,010 You may not have gotten it, I don't know. 1001 01:27:27,010 --> 01:27:35,370 But the question is whether there's, whether this request can be considered since the budget is still not yet frozen, 1002 01:27:35,790 --> 01:27:37,810 but it's pretty darn close to being frozen. 1003 01:27:38,370 --> 01:27:38,990 I hear it. 1004 01:27:39,870 --> 01:27:40,650 Thank you, Mr. Richardson. 1005 01:27:41,250 --> 01:27:41,890 All right, come on up. 1006 01:27:45,490 --> 01:27:46,630 I'm ma'am, you'll be next, okay? 1007 01:27:47,870 --> 01:27:49,230 The one with the beautiful yellow shirt. 1008 01:27:50,690 --> 01:27:51,470 That's not me. 1009 01:27:51,930 --> 01:27:53,670 Art Vatsky, Teneck. 1010 01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:59,780 I wanted to talk about a potentially serious problem. 1011 01:27:59,780 --> 01:28:01,900 It's been more than 10 years. 1012 01:28:02,180 --> 01:28:04,860 It's a came forward to talk about this. 1013 01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:07,220 It has to do with the CSX line. 1014 01:28:07,620 --> 01:28:10,840 At the beginning of July, it will be five years. 1015 01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:14,660 It's the terrible disaster at McGantic, 1016 01:28:15,060 --> 01:28:20,120 Black McGantic in Quebec, Canada, 1017 01:28:20,900 --> 01:28:24,540 and which 47 people were incinerated. 1018 01:28:25,940 --> 01:28:27,920 And I've been looking at pictures 1019 01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:31,520 and I've been in contact with people who went through that experience. 1020 01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:40,320 TNEC can do more to prepare for this possible, regrettable event. 1021 01:28:40,980 --> 01:28:47,740 All the towns along the CSX line in Bergen County should do the same. 1022 01:28:48,620 --> 01:28:55,240 So what I'd like to ask, I don't want to burden our council and our town extra. 1023 01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:57,820 I would like to have a 1024 01:28:59,870 --> 01:29:10,770 drill and evacuation drill to see how citizens and police could work together to get people out of the neighborhoods adjacent to the rail line. 1025 01:29:11,010 --> 01:29:18,690 You know there's a half mile radius evacuation zone. I'm in the zone. I think a lot of you are in the zone. 1026 01:29:18,690 --> 01:29:27,890 So it would be a good exercise, it won't require a lot of money, but as an option of TNAF not doing it, 1027 01:29:28,210 --> 01:29:35,230 can we ask the county executive to get all the towns together and work this through? 1028 01:29:35,390 --> 01:29:37,770 They're just as likely to have a problem as we are. 1029 01:29:39,470 --> 01:29:42,450 I'll send you some material on it at a future date. 1030 01:29:44,250 --> 01:29:52,150 Regarding the road center, which I will begin to use more frequently, it's regrettable 1031 01:29:52,730 --> 01:29:56,110 that we talk about leaks in the roof and then replacing the roof. 1032 01:29:57,570 --> 01:29:59,970 Engineers should have been looking at that building, I guess. 1033 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:29,900 That was built when I first moved to town. Its life was over. It should have been looked at in anticipation of this problem. So it could have been in this. And we've seen this over. I don't remember the exact things, but TNAC doesn't anticipate buildings falling into this repair, including this one. I thought the money for this old building was included in the budget for the extended TNAC municipal 1034 01:30:30,900 --> 01:30:37,140 We are, you know, we're running around on, we have a car on milk crates here. 1035 01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:44,240 We need to anticipate maintenance problems because, of course, more, as Dr. Prue 1036 01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:48,520 would say, of course, more to wait until it's too late to 1037 01:30:50,890 --> 01:30:51,630 get the repairs. 1038 01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:57,780 The perfect timing, yes, ma'am. 1039 01:30:58,840 --> 01:30:59,980 How are we going to go next? 1040 01:30:59,980 --> 01:31:01,000 I'm 1041 01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:13,000 Ellen Schwartz, I'm a member of the GeneXe A. Tree Advisory Board, and I speak as a member of the board. 1042 01:31:14,820 --> 01:31:20,560 There is no way that I can adequately express my disappointment and yes, 1043 01:31:20,900 --> 01:31:27,660 discussed with your decision to cut money, the promise money from the budget for tree planting and maintenance. 1044 01:31:28,700 --> 01:31:34,640 You already know how much trees add to the beauty and house value of the community. 1045 01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:40,600 their importance in flood and climate control and the role they play in the overall health 1046 01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:45,520 of the citizens of our community and yet you have chosen to ignore all of these facts. 1047 01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:51,180 Perhaps even more egregious is the cut of tree maintenance from the budget. 1048 01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:54,600 This directly impacts on the safety of our residents. 1049 01:31:55,260 --> 01:32:02,260 If the trees are not maintained and there is little or no budget for pruning people are 1050 01:32:02,260 --> 01:32:09,920 placed at a terrible risk. This week, I happened to have been in Turhun Park, a huge bow from a tree 1051 01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:18,220 fell just inches from the children's playground. A very, very heavy branch. Are you prepared to offer 1052 01:32:18,220 --> 01:32:27,820 condolences to a family of a child killed by a branch falling on them? How much is a human life 1053 01:32:27,820 --> 01:32:38,520 forth to you. I could offer many, many, many examples as I am in the parks of trees that 1054 01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:46,360 need pruning and are very dangerous to all of our citizens. We are losing our gorgeous 1055 01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:51,920 London plain trees because they are covered with ivy which stops the trees from photosynthesizing 1056 01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:59,440 and leads to the death of the tree, a totally avoidable situation if a proper tree maintenance program was in place. 1057 01:33:00,060 --> 01:33:07,120 The beautiful canopy these trees provide takes years and years, and with your short-sighted 1058 01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:13,200 counterproductive lack of leadership, these trees will absolutely be lost to our community. 1059 01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:16,400 I say shame on you. 1060 01:33:17,440 --> 01:33:20,000 Thank you, Mr. Schwartz, and thank you for your hard work as well. 1061 01:33:20,100 --> 01:33:24,640 And I think you heard tonight that Council was looking to find the funds in a different 1062 01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:27,300 area, different form of funding. 1063 01:33:28,940 --> 01:33:31,340 How are rows, I'm sorry, I can't have back on for dialogue. 1064 01:33:33,570 --> 01:33:34,870 Janice, I have good news for you. 1065 01:33:35,010 --> 01:33:38,410 Tonight, you get the coveted Alex Rushing last speaker role. 1066 01:33:39,450 --> 01:33:40,690 All right, go ahead. 1067 01:33:41,170 --> 01:33:42,350 Good evening, how it rows. 1068 01:33:42,810 --> 01:33:45,910 I'm not speaking as a member of the Board of Education, but as a resident of TNEC. 1069 01:33:45,910 --> 01:33:50,010 And I'm a little confused, maybe I haven't been paying enough attention these last couple 1070 01:33:50,010 --> 01:33:50,310 of years. 1071 01:33:50,910 --> 01:33:55,090 I think I'm here all the time, and I think I do listen, but what ever happened to the 1072 01:33:55,090 --> 01:33:59,250 statement I used to hear of, let's get this budget done in the fall, in the late fall, 1073 01:33:59,410 --> 01:34:01,530 and get all of this done, and be ahead of the game. 1074 01:34:02,170 --> 01:34:06,690 And here we are today at the very tail end of May discussing budget. 1075 01:34:07,490 --> 01:34:09,810 And it sounds as if it's going into June as well. 1076 01:34:10,350 --> 01:34:15,010 I can't believe anyone's happy with this, and I don't understand how it can happen year 1077 01:34:15,010 --> 01:34:22,170 year after year on such a delayed basis debt. If you're bad to pay down option, how much 1078 01:34:22,170 --> 01:34:29,390 money does it cost the township in additional cost incurred for that debt as a consequence 1079 01:34:29,390 --> 01:34:34,530 over how many years, as soon as you have a couple of thousand a year and extra twenty thousand 1080 01:34:34,530 --> 01:34:40,830 a year, there's a cost to delaying, and I don't know if that's the best situation. A half-year 1081 01:34:40,830 --> 01:34:48,190 salary $75,000? Well, if you're not funding that salary for a half year, are you going 1082 01:34:48,190 --> 01:34:53,230 to be utilizing over time to fill the responsibilities that that position would have covered? Or is 1083 01:34:53,230 --> 01:34:56,930 it really something we don't need to do because that position isn't necessary in the first 1084 01:34:56,930 --> 01:35:00,530 place? I would think if it's necessary, we have to cover it. And what's the expense? 1085 01:35:03,780 --> 01:35:04,320 I can't 1086 01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:09,780 agree more with Henry with Henry Pruitt as saying regarding infrastructure and use. We all 1087 01:35:09,780 --> 01:35:13,840 I don't know that on a house, if you don't maintain it, it costs more to replace it. 1088 01:35:16,380 --> 01:35:22,900 The best example I can think of is a capola of the township, where it deteriorated over 1089 01:35:22,900 --> 01:35:27,460 decades so badly that it had to replace with a piece of plastic, unfortunately. 1090 01:35:28,020 --> 01:35:33,660 I mean, that's just, what poor maintenance practice and how do we get around doing that? 1091 01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:37,540 I mean, it just, something has to be done, and it's within your capability, you're the 1092 01:35:37,540 --> 01:35:37,920 council. 1093 01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:39,120 get something done. 1094 01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:45,700 CSX, I hate to say this, but you know when it comes to a catastrophic 1095 01:35:45,700 --> 01:35:54,220 situation, I think this evacuation drills is nonsense. You don't need evacuation. You 1096 01:35:54,220 --> 01:35:59,220 need rescue. And that's what we should be thinking about because when something happens, 1097 01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:03,820 that gas is all around immediately. The problem with, there's a fireball that's around 1098 01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:11,000 You're not escaping that, but you have to respond and react to it, and that's what my concern is. 1099 01:36:13,810 --> 01:36:16,090 Last storm we had in this test, we do a three maintenance. 1100 01:36:16,410 --> 01:36:18,170 Across the street, limb fell down. 1101 01:36:18,290 --> 01:36:19,850 We lost our electricity for several hours. 1102 01:36:20,230 --> 01:36:23,150 It hit the exact spot where my wife parked her car. 1103 01:36:23,570 --> 01:36:29,170 Thank goodness she parked it on a driveway in anticipation of his storm, just so that street cleaning of the test area could be done. 1104 01:36:30,250 --> 01:36:32,970 And let me give a plug to everyone here, including the audience. 1105 01:36:32,970 --> 01:36:35,790 We have a newly formed TNIC historic society. 1106 01:36:36,670 --> 01:36:38,770 It is a fledgling organization. 1107 01:36:39,210 --> 01:36:42,970 They had a discussion, I had a board meeting for the board of ed that I couldn't attend, 1108 01:36:43,430 --> 01:36:45,530 about the streets of TNIC that I understand what's very important. 1109 01:36:45,530 --> 01:36:45,730 Thank you. 1110 01:36:46,410 --> 01:36:48,190 And I urge all of you to join. 1111 01:36:48,630 --> 01:36:49,330 Thank you very much. 1112 01:36:49,370 --> 01:36:49,830 A short number. 1113 01:36:51,550 --> 01:36:51,910 Yes. 1114 01:36:52,510 --> 01:36:53,590 And then Louis, you'll go after. 1115 01:36:54,330 --> 01:36:55,790 And then by show of hands, anyone else? 1116 01:36:57,230 --> 01:36:57,470 Okay. 1117 01:36:58,410 --> 01:37:03,270 We'll go to Dr. Coffler, and then we'll have Janice go to your good. 1118 01:37:05,660 --> 01:37:08,360 Nancy Cochran, Shay, to advisory board member. 1119 01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:14,540 I'm here to speak about the cut in the tree budget. 1120 01:37:15,060 --> 01:37:20,320 And mainly our concern is not just planting the trees, replanting trees, but the maintenance of it. 1121 01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:26,760 And once again, that tree planting line seems to be one of the first areas where you go and you cut. 1122 01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:29,460 And this has happened year after year after year. 1123 01:37:29,780 --> 01:37:34,400 But I'm also here to speak about the fact that we weren't even aware of what was going 1124 01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:41,420 on and part of our problem is we have not had an active council liaison person for probably 1125 01:37:41,420 --> 01:37:43,260 the last 15 years. 1126 01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:45,780 And that's really unacceptable. 1127 01:37:46,660 --> 01:37:51,960 There is so much that we want to do as a board but we don't know what's going on. 1128 01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:56,260 I sit here at meeting sometimes and I'll stay to the end and I hear committee reports 1129 01:37:56,260 --> 01:38:00,320 liaison reports, and there's never anything for the Shatri Advice report. 1130 01:38:00,820 --> 01:38:06,640 We feel like we're just being, we're there just to serve to be a tree city, U.S.A. to 1131 01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:09,760 do your Arbor Day celebration and things of that nature. 1132 01:38:09,940 --> 01:38:14,500 So we're hoping with the reorganization that you, that becomes, you know, July 1st, that 1133 01:38:14,500 --> 01:38:19,820 we will finally get somebody who is interested in it and who can keep us up to date as to what's 1134 01:38:19,820 --> 01:38:22,000 going on, what can we do, what we can't do. 1135 01:38:22,220 --> 01:38:23,700 We have a lot of good ideas here. 1136 01:38:23,700 --> 01:38:27,580 and we have people who really want to do a lot, 1137 01:38:27,820 --> 01:38:29,400 we don't even know when our terms end. 1138 01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:32,000 We haven't been able to get that information. 1139 01:38:32,620 --> 01:38:33,720 We've asked for that. 1140 01:38:34,340 --> 01:38:35,820 And you know, we have people that want my term ends. 1141 01:38:35,860 --> 01:38:38,740 I'm not going to continue, but I don't know when that is. 1142 01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:40,580 Maybe it's this year, maybe it's next year. 1143 01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:43,980 So I hope that you realize that we really want to be 1144 01:38:43,980 --> 01:38:48,340 an active advisory board, but we also need your help to do this. 1145 01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:51,160 And on May 16th, we had our burden. 1146 01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:56,000 This is a good example of our disappointment in our council members. 1147 01:38:56,140 --> 01:39:03,920 Everyone received an invitation to it, nobody responded, nobody RSVP, yes, no, whatever. 1148 01:39:04,540 --> 01:39:10,280 So we had nobody from council, no mayor representation at the ceremony. 1149 01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:13,360 Yes, it was pouring rain, but we can live with that. 1150 01:39:14,140 --> 01:39:19,100 We can trees need the water to grow, so we were really upset about that. 1151 01:39:19,100 --> 01:39:21,780 And that was just something else that made us very frustrated. 1152 01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:24,900 And we hope that this will change in the future. 1153 01:39:25,300 --> 01:39:27,540 I have pictures from Arbor Day, if anybody's interested. 1154 01:39:27,880 --> 01:39:28,320 I'll give it to Doug. 1155 01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:31,420 In seeing what you missed. 1156 01:39:31,780 --> 01:39:34,360 And we hope that going forward, that we can work together, 1157 01:39:34,700 --> 01:39:39,500 so that we could do better ways of helping you look for the grants, 1158 01:39:39,740 --> 01:39:42,700 looking for things like that to help the budget process. 1159 01:39:43,220 --> 01:39:45,280 I don't want to see my taxes go up. 1160 01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:51,280 But we still need our trees, you know, despite what some of you think yet is. 1161 01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:56,420 So hopefully July 1st we have a liaison that will come to our meetings. 1162 01:39:57,080 --> 01:39:57,400 Thank you. 1163 01:39:57,420 --> 01:39:59,000 Thank you for all your hard work and dedication. 1164 01:39:59,440 --> 01:40:02,760 And by the way, dedicated volunteers like you, your term doesn't end or you're on forever. 1165 01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:06,860 I feel like I've been on for that so I have been 23 years. 1166 01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:07,720 Lillian, 1167 01:40:10,980 --> 01:40:11,880 and by the way, we didn't cut. 1168 01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:15,040 We re-aligned, we're reviewing. 1169 01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:15,940 Good 1170 01:40:26,180 --> 01:40:27,420 evening, Liliana Lewis, Tina. 1171 01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:30,220 I'm just here to invite the entire community 1172 01:40:30,220 --> 01:40:31,620 to our Juneteenth celebration, 1173 01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:34,840 which will be June 16th at Overpec Park, 1174 01:40:35,200 --> 01:40:36,760 from 10 a.m. to 8 p.m. 1175 01:40:37,820 --> 01:40:39,560 If you're not familiar with Juneteenth, 1176 01:40:39,700 --> 01:40:43,400 it's the celebration from the enslavement 1177 01:40:43,400 --> 01:40:45,500 that took place in this country for 400 years 1178 01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:49,780 where the enslave, the Africans were in bondage. 1179 01:40:50,300 --> 01:40:52,240 So as a kin to the revolution of war, 1180 01:40:52,420 --> 01:40:54,400 would you like for, would you celebrate that? 1181 01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:58,040 So we celebrate June 10th and just being celebrated now all across the nation. 1182 01:40:58,820 --> 01:41:04,520 And this year, we are honoring all our African-American soldiers in Bergen County. 1183 01:41:04,940 --> 01:41:10,980 So if anyone out there listening audience is African-American soldier as a veteran or 1184 01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:18,740 currently serving, we are honoring you on June 16th. 1185 01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:23,380 And you can contact me and I'll give my email address which is Lillian Lewis 1186 01:41:23,380 --> 01:41:26,860 is 740 at gmail.com. 1187 01:41:27,060 --> 01:41:29,800 We want all the African-American veterans 1188 01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:33,020 and currently serving soldiers. 1189 01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:34,920 Overpacked park. 1190 01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:38,580 OK, if you live in Tina, can go straight down Tina's road. 1191 01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:41,120 And you make that left way, it says overpacked park. 1192 01:41:41,780 --> 01:41:42,560 All right, you'll see tents. 1193 01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:45,480 You'll see musaments for the children. 1194 01:41:45,860 --> 01:41:49,280 We have historical tents, giving a lot of history. 1195 01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:51,480 And it's going to be an excellent program. 1196 01:41:51,540 --> 01:41:52,560 We always have excellent program. 1197 01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:57,940 And then at 6 p.m. from 6 to 8, we have jazz under the stars. 1198 01:41:58,240 --> 01:42:01,220 So you can come out in a joy and even if your time is over, 1199 01:42:01,340 --> 01:42:03,900 or for your Sabbath, I don't know when it ends, 1200 01:42:04,020 --> 01:42:07,940 but if it ends, we have from 6 to 8 jazz under the stars. 1201 01:42:08,280 --> 01:42:09,580 Okay, so everyone is invited. 1202 01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:10,860 We have a great time every year. 1203 01:42:11,420 --> 01:42:12,360 So let's see all of you. 1204 01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:13,580 Sounds like a great event. 1205 01:42:13,740 --> 01:42:14,560 Thank you for letting us know. 1206 01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:16,220 If you can send us a flyer also, that'd be great. 1207 01:42:17,080 --> 01:42:19,800 Dr. Toffler and then Mickey, you'll, I think Mickey, 1208 01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:20,940 you get clean up tonight. 1209 01:42:20,940 --> 01:42:24,560 Let's see, get that coveted position, it doesn't look like. 1210 01:42:28,740 --> 01:42:40,360 Barbara Laytoffler, TNEC, good evening, despite every candidate signing a pledge to uphold fair campaign practices 1211 01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:51,560 and to repudiate those who do not, some candidates in the 2018 TNEC municipal campaign, as they have 1212 01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:55,660 have in the past resorted to lies to deceive the voters, 1213 01:42:56,380 --> 01:43:01,400 to slander, libel, and to cause harm to other candidates 1214 01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:03,780 and to town residents. 1215 01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:09,860 Since issues of religion have been tossed into this toxic mix, 1216 01:43:10,500 --> 01:43:15,780 I wish to use my time here to quote from religious leaders 1217 01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:17,860 about truth. 1218 01:43:17,860 --> 01:43:27,820 The first set of comments that I will read are adapted from a new, really quite new effort 1219 01:43:27,820 --> 01:43:32,620 called Reclaiming Jesus, a confession of faith in a time of crisis. 1220 01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:41,580 And the second set, from a book, The Jewish Religion, A Companion, Truth and Lies in the 1221 01:43:41,580 --> 01:43:46,800 Jewish Tradition by Rabbi Lewis Jacobs, from the first set. 1222 01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:54,180 It is our duty as leaders to speak truth in humility and love, but when politics undermine 1223 01:43:54,180 --> 01:43:58,000 our theology, we must examine those politics. 1224 01:43:58,840 --> 01:44:02,500 We believe that truth is morally central to our lives. 1225 01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:09,720 Therefore we reject the lies that have invaded our political and civil lives. 1226 01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:17,080 The normalization of lying presents a profound moral danger to the fabric of society. 1227 01:44:17,660 --> 01:44:27,120 We reject any move toward autocratic political leadership and authoritarian rule with which, 1228 01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:31,900 with the lies that support them, threaten democracy and the common good. 1229 01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:39,080 these next comments come from the chapter truth and lies in the Jewish tradition 1230 01:44:39,080 --> 01:44:47,680 by Rabbi Jacobs deceiving others is strictly forbidden quote the holy one 1231 01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:55,020 blessed be he hates a person which says one thing with his mouth and another within 1232 01:44:55,020 --> 01:44:59,860 in his heart." There are other matters which 1233 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:27,860 All under the heading of falsehood. For example, when a man praises himself for having virtues, he does not really possess. It sometimes happens that a man may persuade his friend into believing that he has spoken well of him or done him a good turn when, in fact, he's done nothing of the kind. In this connection, our rabbis teach that it is forbidden to mislead others. 1234 01:45:29,420 --> 01:45:34,960 Even when nothing iniquitous is involved, they shall not have a deceitful tongue in 1235 01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:38,120 their mouths, but all their words should be truthful. 1236 01:45:38,980 --> 01:45:43,760 Other liars have their eyes on future benefits and tell lies and orders to pay their 1237 01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:44,000 name. 1238 01:45:45,100 --> 01:45:46,580 No, I will finish. 1239 01:45:47,080 --> 01:45:48,240 I'm sorry, Dr. Hopper. 1240 01:45:48,480 --> 01:45:51,580 Is the seal of the Court on Blessed Be Be Be Be? 1241 01:45:51,580 --> 01:46:05,080 And finally, from the original reclaiming Jesus, we believe we are one body and we reject the silence of those who know the sins and thus allow them to endure. 1242 01:46:05,180 --> 01:46:06,200 Thank you, Dr. Kaufland. 1243 01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:12,940 Thank you. All right, Mickey, come on up, close us up, close us down with the batting cleanup. 1244 01:46:14,480 --> 01:46:19,820 You get to bring the batter's home, or the, I don't know, a sports person, so someone has to help me with that one. 1245 01:46:20,860 --> 01:46:22,640 Bring the runners home. 1246 01:46:23,100 --> 01:46:24,300 Thank you, Shiland Teneck. 1247 01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:30,340 Just in case there's no more council meetings before the installation. 1248 01:46:30,980 --> 01:46:37,740 I would just really like to thank Councilman Sone and Councilman Castle for the last four years 1249 01:46:37,740 --> 01:46:42,020 that they put their time and energy into helping Teneck. 1250 01:46:42,660 --> 01:46:45,460 I've worked many hours with Councilman Sone. 1251 01:46:45,460 --> 01:46:49,620 I'm on a few boards, but he's on all of them, I believe. 1252 01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:56,800 And he's worked so hard, I think he puts tremendous time and energy and making TNIC into 1253 01:46:56,800 --> 01:46:58,200 a better town. 1254 01:46:58,920 --> 01:47:03,560 And I'm very proud to be working with him. 1255 01:47:03,880 --> 01:47:09,220 And I know that Jason, you also put in your time, but I wasn't with you that much. 1256 01:47:09,220 --> 01:47:20,200 So, I just want to say that I will be sorry when you leave and I'm happy to be sitting here 1257 01:47:20,200 --> 01:47:25,880 and then to many council meetings and just looking up at you and seeing how hard you 1258 01:47:25,880 --> 01:47:30,720 work for this town, both of you, and that's all I have to say tonight. 1259 01:47:31,160 --> 01:47:31,760 Thank you, Mickey. 1260 01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:32,260 Well said. 1261 01:47:33,260 --> 01:47:34,100 Motion to close. 1262 01:47:34,260 --> 01:47:34,800 Good and well, fair. 1263 01:47:35,180 --> 01:47:35,560 Second. 1264 01:47:36,780 --> 01:47:37,260 Roll call. 1265 01:47:37,420 --> 01:47:37,900 All favor? 1266 01:47:37,900 --> 01:47:38,780 Aye. 1267 01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:39,760 Are you opposed? 1268 01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:41,520 Motion is carried. 1269 01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:42,080 All right. 1270 01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:44,880 Councilman Schwartz. 1271 01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:47,160 I'll be opening more. 1272 01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:47,840 I'll be opening now. 1273 01:47:47,960 --> 01:47:48,520 I'll make it quick. 1274 01:47:49,000 --> 01:47:54,820 Mr. Rose, in the last three years, we've been successful in passing the budgets because there are zero. 1275 01:47:55,120 --> 01:47:57,140 So when we get down to zero, we pass it. 1276 01:47:57,600 --> 01:48:02,340 As much as I understand your frustration with the delay in the budget, it's only because we're deliberating, 1277 01:48:02,500 --> 01:48:03,700 trying to get to that best number. 1278 01:48:03,700 --> 01:48:07,160 You know, we could easily said 3.41 was a manager's proposal. 1279 01:48:07,680 --> 01:48:09,020 Heck, Englewood did seven in change. 1280 01:48:09,460 --> 01:48:12,840 We could have had this done months ago, but we're really taking the time to make sure 1281 01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:14,940 that we get to the best possible number. 1282 01:48:15,220 --> 01:48:17,140 There really isn't a prize for racing to the first. 1283 01:48:17,420 --> 01:48:19,440 Englewood proposed it again months ago. 1284 01:48:20,020 --> 01:48:23,400 I'll go through December 31st so I can get this to the best number possible. 1285 01:48:23,720 --> 01:48:26,140 So that's really the consideration for everyone's dollars. 1286 01:48:26,620 --> 01:48:26,880 Thank you. 1287 01:48:27,820 --> 01:48:29,320 Councillor Kassel, it's your night. 1288 01:48:32,620 --> 01:48:34,060 A couple of things. 1289 01:48:34,060 --> 01:48:42,600 One, I thank you, Ms. Lewis, for the announcement about, as it relates to June 10th, I hope that the full complement of council will be there. 1290 01:48:43,360 --> 01:48:48,200 As it relates to Arbor Day, I was so sad that I missed Arbor Day this year. 1291 01:48:49,700 --> 01:48:58,100 I was at the one previous to this year, and I'm so sorry I couldn't be there, but I'm even more sad to hear that no one was there. 1292 01:48:59,380 --> 01:49:02,040 So, there is a liaison. 1293 01:49:03,140 --> 01:49:04,100 Can I have my time back? 1294 01:49:04,280 --> 01:49:04,540 Sorry. 1295 01:49:05,640 --> 01:49:06,980 We were just looking for the pictures. 1296 01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:08,660 John, I get that time back. 1297 01:49:09,340 --> 01:49:10,040 Yeah, that's positive. 1298 01:49:10,140 --> 01:49:10,360 All right. 1299 01:49:11,020 --> 01:49:17,080 I know that you do have a liaison, if I'm correct, it is Mayor Medidine. 1300 01:49:18,480 --> 01:49:20,460 Well, I'm sorry, I can't have back on board. 1301 01:49:21,300 --> 01:49:23,320 But your message is heard loud and clear. 1302 01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:25,640 I'm sorry, I couldn't be there myself this year. 1303 01:49:26,140 --> 01:49:32,540 As it relates to, Tina can do more to prevent tragedies as it relates to CSX. 1304 01:49:33,300 --> 01:49:40,380 Mr. Vatsky, we can, we can stop putting residential buildings next to the tracks. 1305 01:49:40,940 --> 01:49:48,660 And that was something that we attempted, at least the minority that was tried to attempt to do, but, you know, that's not a fight that we want. 1306 01:49:49,320 --> 01:49:53,720 And we have less control over CSX than we'd like to have if any at all. 1307 01:49:54,260 --> 01:49:57,660 But it is a fight that I'm confident that Council will continue to fight. 1308 01:49:57,780 --> 01:50:01,640 But I think one of the places that we can start is not putting additional 1309 01:50:01,640 --> 01:50:05,840 residences near the tracks so that we're not creating a potential harm. 1310 01:50:07,140 --> 01:50:11,400 Lastly, and this was something that was not brought up, well actually before I get to that, 1311 01:50:11,580 --> 01:50:12,900 breakage from retired employees. 1312 01:50:13,360 --> 01:50:19,180 Just this year alone, we have discussed hiring new employees because other employees were retiring. 1313 01:50:19,180 --> 01:50:23,680 And I'd like to make sure that the breakage from those retired employees is 1314 01:50:23,680 --> 01:50:28,900 This factored into this year's budget, if it hasn't already been, because I know that we were budgeting four people who were retiring. 1315 01:50:29,460 --> 01:50:36,080 But since we have agreed to hire people at, you know, a fraction of the salary that we make those calculations in the budget. 1316 01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:42,380 And lastly, he wasn't brought up, but at 227 T-neck road, there's a new construction that's going up. 1317 01:50:42,800 --> 01:50:44,140 And I would be remiss if I didn't say this. 1318 01:50:44,260 --> 01:50:50,120 I've gone through the construction sites of all of our developments, particularly the ones where there are parking structures below. 1319 01:50:50,120 --> 01:50:54,760 And they all have these massively wide columns that are holding up the building. 1320 01:50:55,060 --> 01:51:01,540 And every day I drive by what the structure and the columns look like stilts. 1321 01:51:02,200 --> 01:51:06,780 And my nine year old said, daddy, that when they build that, isn't going to topple over it out by nine year old, 1322 01:51:06,780 --> 01:51:08,140 it's after the buttons, not an engineer. 1323 01:51:08,660 --> 01:51:12,600 Is it possible that we can just get someone to 227 to inspect that? 1324 01:51:12,980 --> 01:51:18,300 Because those columns that are holding up this structure that is going to be condos are so 1325 01:51:18,300 --> 01:51:24,540 So much narrower than all the other developments, and I just want to make sure that that isn't something that a, you know, good stiff 1326 01:51:24,540 --> 01:51:27,560 wind comes by and doesn't topple it over onto the residents of Ohio. 1327 01:51:27,680 --> 01:51:31,140 So we can just get an inspection of that site. Peace of mind, please. 1328 01:51:32,100 --> 01:51:32,400 Thank you. 1329 01:51:32,500 --> 01:51:33,760 Mr. Reconnaissance, question about that comment? 1330 01:51:34,040 --> 01:51:34,120 Yeah. 1331 01:51:34,220 --> 01:51:36,840 You're nine-year-old that made that question a future engineer. 1332 01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:37,840 Where did she go to school? 1333 01:51:38,440 --> 01:51:39,880 I said she is not an engineer. 1334 01:51:40,060 --> 01:51:40,980 Sorry, where did she go to school? 1335 01:51:41,100 --> 01:51:41,380 Uh-huh. 1336 01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:42,920 She goes to the Tina community charter school. 1337 01:51:43,080 --> 01:51:43,620 Where is that located? 1338 01:51:44,060 --> 01:51:45,880 Unfortunately, it's right next to the tracks. 1339 01:51:45,880 --> 01:51:49,320 Where did you put forth a motion to expand the enrollment there? 1340 01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:50,480 I definitely did. 1341 01:51:50,820 --> 01:51:51,300 Right on the tracks. 1342 01:51:51,620 --> 01:51:53,280 No, expand the enrollment of the school. 1343 01:51:53,560 --> 01:51:53,940 All right, 1344 01:51:56,000 --> 01:51:57,080 so please go ahead. 1345 01:51:57,080 --> 01:51:58,980 I wasn't sure where the Trotters Councilman's on. 1346 01:51:59,880 --> 01:52:00,700 Adversarial, always. 1347 01:52:00,760 --> 01:52:02,260 You get the next one, Councilman's on. 1348 01:52:02,600 --> 01:52:07,660 If there is anybody here who's ever traveled on an airplane, you know you go through 1349 01:52:07,660 --> 01:52:12,040 a instruction, a series of safety instructions, or you're told that in the event 1350 01:52:12,040 --> 01:52:17,580 of loss of cabin pressure, take the mask, put it over your mouth and know. 1351 01:52:17,580 --> 01:52:28,160 There was an explosive decompression on flight southwest 1380 a few months ago and there was a photograph where almost none of the people had that mask over their nose, they had it over their mouth. 1352 01:52:29,260 --> 01:52:32,620 Every single person who has ever been on an airplane has heard that safety drill. 1353 01:52:33,280 --> 01:52:36,800 No one in this township has ever gone through a CSX safety drill. 1354 01:52:37,020 --> 01:52:38,700 No one has any idea what to do. 1355 01:52:39,100 --> 01:52:41,840 Even the people who have read the book would have no idea what to do. 1356 01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:46,860 I don't think that in the event of an emergency that we're going to have all of our emergency 1357 01:52:46,860 --> 01:52:50,500 services personnel going from door to door to door to door, telling people that they 1358 01:52:50,500 --> 01:52:51,960 should evacuate or where they should go. 1359 01:52:52,420 --> 01:52:56,720 The least we should do is to make sure that residents know what to do in case of emergency. 1360 01:52:57,460 --> 01:53:01,560 Mr. Rose, where I do agree with you, I don't know that it's even possible to start working 1361 01:53:01,560 --> 01:53:08,900 on a budget in October, November, December, but when we came on board in 2014, we were presented 1362 01:53:08,900 --> 01:53:12,320 did in July with the process of introducing the budget. 1363 01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:17,020 You can, meaningfully, craft a budget when half the year is over. 1364 01:53:17,500 --> 01:53:20,720 I've asked for, we're supposed to get monthly budget reports. 1365 01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:22,440 We're supposed to get quarterly budget reports. 1366 01:53:22,820 --> 01:53:23,880 I still haven't seen those. 1367 01:53:24,360 --> 01:53:25,680 I don't know where we are. 1368 01:53:26,020 --> 01:53:27,560 Should Council be managing surplus? 1369 01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:29,380 Maybe, maybe not. 1370 01:53:29,800 --> 01:53:31,740 But we don't have any idea where we are. 1371 01:53:31,900 --> 01:53:33,060 Are we overspending? 1372 01:53:33,260 --> 01:53:34,260 Are we underspending? 1373 01:53:34,420 --> 01:53:36,680 Is income higher than expected or lower expected? 1374 01:53:37,200 --> 01:53:38,040 I don't know. 1375 01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:42,600 And I don't know how I can responsibly craft a budget without having that information. 1376 01:53:43,440 --> 01:53:48,740 In terms of a capital budget, we asked you, as a member of the planning board, to go 1377 01:53:48,740 --> 01:53:51,780 through that capital budget and to provide us with advice and guidance. 1378 01:53:52,220 --> 01:53:56,720 I think it would help us tremendously to have that input and to be able to see, are we 1379 01:53:56,720 --> 01:54:01,020 meaning our capital budget needs because we don't have those resources we need? 1380 01:54:01,560 --> 01:54:06,660 One of the things that I was proud of stuff that I did on council was to inadvertently, 1381 01:54:06,660 --> 01:54:11,640 in March 2016, walk into a meeting with the Shatree Advisory Board, and see the board 1382 01:54:11,640 --> 01:54:14,360 sitting there in consternation, not knowing what to do. 1383 01:54:14,960 --> 01:54:20,500 We lost a tremendous number of trees in those preceding years, and I said, my advice, 1384 01:54:21,460 --> 01:54:26,500 advocate on behalf, come to a budget meeting, make a specific request, let's keep it in this budget, 1385 01:54:26,600 --> 01:54:31,500 let's not have it whipsaw from year to year to year, because then it becomes hard to put it back in. 1386 01:54:31,500 --> 01:54:35,300 $50,000 is nowhere near enough to maintain our trees. 1387 01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:39,940 It covers probably maybe five, maybe 10% of what should be spent. 1388 01:54:40,340 --> 01:54:45,320 And the average tree will grow and fall about a dozen times before we maintain it. 1389 01:54:45,460 --> 01:54:46,480 We're nowhere near enough. 1390 01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:51,920 Maybe we can get some money from open space, but I think that that should be put back in. 1391 01:54:52,620 --> 01:54:57,460 Ms. Silverberg, I have been perhaps, I've lapsed as a member of the Friends of the Library, 1392 01:54:57,560 --> 01:54:59,020 but I have been a consistent friend. 1393 01:54:59,640 --> 01:55:01,000 I've been a consistent supporter. 1394 01:55:01,000 --> 01:55:06,560 I appreciate all the work that's being done, I hope, and I wish that you pushed us a little bit harder and 1395 01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:15,800 shamed us into becoming friends of the library, other than I have pretty much two rules for my wife, never, ever, ever again run for council, and you've already bought too many books. 1396 01:55:16,360 --> 01:55:19,580 So I don't know if there is any particular order in either of those. 1397 01:55:20,360 --> 01:55:23,180 Dr. Toffler, I will certainly be addressing your issues a little bit later. 1398 01:55:23,440 --> 01:55:24,220 Thank you, Councilman. 1399 01:55:24,560 --> 01:55:27,360 And we're all friends, by the way, just sometimes we don't call each other. 1400 01:55:27,560 --> 01:55:28,100 It's not painful. 1401 01:55:28,100 --> 01:55:31,320 You know, all right, got some member rice. 1402 01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:40,400 Thank you so much, and I was happy to see you guys on Cedar Lane on Monday so that I was happy to see that you guys were 1403 01:55:40,400 --> 01:55:45,020 out there active in the community and hopefully other residents so I will continue to participate. 1404 01:55:45,760 --> 01:55:50,560 That being my first job, I will always be a friend of the library but I need to make sure I become more active. 1405 01:55:51,980 --> 01:55:56,040 I want to know if there's anything we can do to address the woman's question about the amphitheater 1406 01:55:56,040 --> 01:56:00,580 I guess hopefully maybe we didn't get her, I don't know if she took your card or anything 1407 01:56:00,580 --> 01:56:00,820 way in place. 1408 01:56:01,760 --> 01:56:02,120 Okay, great. 1409 01:56:02,280 --> 01:56:05,760 Just in terms of it, it's not in use, if there's anything we can do to address her concerns. 1410 01:56:06,320 --> 01:56:11,460 I thought that Mr. Vasky's idea would be a great, in terms of collaborating with other 1411 01:56:11,460 --> 01:56:15,620 communities, in terms of doing some type of drill, I think that that would be, you know, a 1412 01:56:15,620 --> 01:56:20,500 great exercise just to ensure that everyone is at least available to the information. 1413 01:56:20,500 --> 01:56:21,560 I know that it's on our website. 1414 01:56:21,740 --> 01:56:25,080 I know it's in our Township Guide that we get. 1415 01:56:25,080 --> 01:56:31,440 I reviewed it, and if God forbid anything happened, I wouldn't really know what to do myself, so I appreciate that. 1416 01:56:33,160 --> 01:56:43,680 I appreciate the trade trees mention of, you know, trying to look for grants and other opportunities because perhaps that would be a way to meet that gap. 1417 01:56:44,200 --> 01:56:54,980 And also, we did discuss at some point in time having a better relationship with not just the shade tree but other advisory boards so that we do have, that they are given better direction as well as the 1418 01:56:54,980 --> 01:57:00,820 fact that we have indeed ensure that there is liaison to each of the advisory boards and 1419 01:57:00,820 --> 01:57:04,020 to ensure that they don't feel that their labor is in vain, but they are indeed being heard 1420 01:57:04,020 --> 01:57:07,120 and given direction, specific direction from us as a council. 1421 01:57:08,360 --> 01:57:13,420 Ms. Lewis, thank you very much for mentioning June 10th, the celebration, and I did be 1422 01:57:13,420 --> 01:57:14,080 seeing flyers. 1423 01:57:14,200 --> 01:57:17,360 I know you guys were out in the community giving out flyers yesterday, so thanks for that. 1424 01:57:17,360 --> 01:57:22,200 But Mr. Doppler has mentioned, I think that's one of agenda fair housing. 1425 01:57:22,640 --> 01:57:24,480 I'm sorry, fair campaign practices. 1426 01:57:25,600 --> 01:57:27,080 I think that's everyone, thanks. 1427 01:57:27,520 --> 01:57:29,300 Dr. Pruitt, that'd be mayor. 1428 01:57:33,630 --> 01:57:43,170 Before we're still using money that hasn't been allocated for 2018, Mr. Manager. 1429 01:57:43,890 --> 01:57:46,190 Would you have somebody look at that tree on the green? 1430 01:57:46,750 --> 01:57:50,970 There's a great big tree that needs to be trimmed before branches begin to fall down, 1431 01:57:50,970 --> 01:57:53,010 so let's look at that as a priority. 1432 01:57:53,790 --> 01:57:57,790 I understand that the other trees are needed, but since we play on the green, 1433 01:57:58,010 --> 01:58:00,790 let's make sure that that one does become a nightmare. 1434 01:58:02,510 --> 01:58:06,610 I'm disappointed in the election process tonight. 1435 01:58:07,490 --> 01:58:11,350 I think that we have a lot of things in our town that we are very proud of, 1436 01:58:11,350 --> 01:58:19,730 But the last many elections, we could not represent the township. 1437 01:58:20,030 --> 01:58:24,370 We are not representing the township that we try to be in the election process. 1438 01:58:24,850 --> 01:58:26,670 All kinds of wild things happen. 1439 01:58:27,630 --> 01:58:31,910 And we ought to be embarrassed about it enough to cut it out. 1440 01:58:32,990 --> 01:58:38,450 The objective of the election, I believe, is for candidate to tell everybody how great 1441 01:58:38,450 --> 01:58:38,930 they are. 1442 01:58:38,930 --> 01:58:44,270 And why they should elect that person, not to criticize other people. 1443 01:58:44,870 --> 01:58:55,070 I hope that soon, with the next election or so, we figure out how to cut out that misbehavior. 1444 01:58:55,530 --> 01:59:00,370 It's childish and it's also destructive, and I'm very embarrassed by it. 1445 01:59:01,810 --> 01:59:02,570 Thank you, Dr. Brewer. 1446 01:59:02,710 --> 01:59:05,190 Okay, committee reports, anyway, committee reports. 1447 01:59:05,190 --> 01:59:09,990 No? Council listed items. A affordable housing page on website. Councilman Schwartz. 1448 01:59:10,170 --> 01:59:13,750 Yes, I'm just, I'm just coming about from our affordable housing seminar, which was great. 1449 01:59:14,090 --> 01:59:18,490 I'll be working with the clerk just to kind of general idea of how we can upload information 1450 01:59:18,490 --> 01:59:19,530 on our upcoming projects. 1451 01:59:19,530 --> 01:59:21,090 Your objection? We're good? 1452 01:59:21,430 --> 01:59:22,950 No, I just wanted to add to that. 1453 01:59:22,970 --> 01:59:23,470 Yes, Councilman. 1454 01:59:23,470 --> 01:59:26,850 Thank you very much to Dean, who's here, and I think it was well attended by the community. 1455 01:59:27,230 --> 01:59:31,230 And I appreciate Mark mentioning that because clearly by the attendance, residents are very 1456 01:59:31,230 --> 01:59:38,510 interested in knowing more about it, and I had asked Dean if we could put the presentation on the website, I think that that would be very, very helpful to the community. 1457 01:59:38,990 --> 01:59:41,490 Perfect. Preservation of Route 4 Greenbell, Councilman Sone. 1458 01:59:42,810 --> 01:59:52,530 Mr. Attorney, you can, we, we, your first day as a township attorney, we passed Resolution 162-017, we passed another resolution. 1459 01:59:53,110 --> 01:59:59,870 It's one of the things that I would love to see addressed before, before I leave office, it's one of the things that I think that there is strong community. 1460 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:29,760 Any consensus that we should be doing? I have had an opportunity to take a look through the closed session minutes. We've taken no action, no formal action by resolution, by motion to undermine or subvert or overturn the terms of those resolutions other than in the limited context of whatever litigation may be related to all vision. What steps are we going to be taking place to ensure that we are putting the appropriate properties on the recreation 1461 02:00:29,760 --> 02:00:33,680 open space inventory, what steps are going to be taken to ensure that the room for 1462 02:00:33,680 --> 02:00:38,700 green belt is protected in keeping with both of those resolutions which dictate both to 1463 02:00:38,700 --> 02:00:41,860 you and to the manager to take action towards that goal. 1464 02:00:45,540 --> 02:00:52,440 As we've said at multiple meetings because of the threat of litigation that's out there 1465 02:00:52,440 --> 02:00:59,740 right now by all vision and the potential negotiations that are going on between all vision 1466 02:00:59,740 --> 02:01:29,460 or that have happened already, and are continuing to happen between all patient and the township to try to resolve the situation, it's not, it's my counsel, it's been my guidance that we should not take action on those resolutions until such time as you heard me say at more than one meeting that we should not do that until it's resolved because I don't want to do anything that would injure our opportunity to resolve that potential litigation 1467 02:01:29,460 --> 02:01:30,140 That's out there. 1468 02:01:31,100 --> 02:01:38,400 You have indicated that you felt that a township ordinance was as good or better than any of 1469 02:01:38,400 --> 02:01:39,780 the alternatives proposed in there. 1470 02:01:39,920 --> 02:01:45,280 Have you moved forward in crafting an ordinance for the township to protect the move forward 1471 02:01:45,280 --> 02:01:45,600 rainbow? 1472 02:01:46,940 --> 02:01:49,920 We have not submitted it to the council yet. 1473 02:01:50,220 --> 02:01:50,300 No. 1474 02:01:51,620 --> 02:01:52,820 Have we moved forward with it? 1475 02:01:53,380 --> 02:01:54,560 We have drafted an ordinance. 1476 02:01:54,720 --> 02:01:55,980 We have not submitted it to the council yet. 1477 02:01:55,980 --> 02:02:01,580 Okay, next steps to prevent continuing violation of the fair campaign practice 1478 02:02:01,580 --> 02:02:03,860 pledge and hold perpetrators responsible. 1479 02:02:04,200 --> 02:02:04,800 Councilman Sullivan. 1480 02:02:05,260 --> 02:02:18,180 I really would be hard pressed to either add to Dr. Toffler the statements that you made the issue of the slander, 1481 02:02:18,340 --> 02:02:21,240 the efforts to trash people, the efforts to destroy people. 1482 02:02:21,240 --> 02:02:29,940 I really couldn't add to the statements that Dr. Pruitt made, you know, this has to end, it's enough. 1483 02:02:31,060 --> 02:02:39,440 I still owe, and I'm still apologizing to my wife for putting her through this process, and again what she's had to endure. 1484 02:02:40,020 --> 02:02:45,700 Either I or people that I know have reached out to all the individuals who have been involved. 1485 02:02:45,700 --> 02:02:52,960 And none of whom feel any sense that there was something wrong. 1486 02:02:53,400 --> 02:02:59,140 I spoke with one member who's sitting up here who rang for a election who said he 1487 02:02:59,140 --> 02:03:02,660 thought it was justified because of who was running for office. 1488 02:03:03,200 --> 02:03:07,680 Someone signed a fair campaign pledge saying that he felt that he was entitled to retaliate 1489 02:03:07,680 --> 02:03:11,540 if there was anything against him. 1490 02:03:12,020 --> 02:03:14,300 I still haven't seen what's appropriate. 1491 02:03:14,760 --> 02:03:20,340 Someone spoke to one of the folks who's not here this evening who said if you think that's bad, 1492 02:03:20,440 --> 02:03:25,540 I have even more trash that I could have or might still dish out. 1493 02:03:26,160 --> 02:03:30,780 I have reached out to the chairs of the advisory board and community relations. 1494 02:03:31,320 --> 02:03:35,760 I will be working with those chairs to come up with a resolution for the June 19th meeting. 1495 02:03:36,500 --> 02:03:41,060 And I invite any council member who's interested, Dr. Pruitt, if you'd like to join me to work with them, 1496 02:03:41,060 --> 02:03:45,300 to draft a resolution, Councilman Romney Rice, anyone else would like to join me? 1497 02:03:45,460 --> 02:03:50,460 I'd like to move ahead with them and to be able, on June 19th, to be able to put in, 1498 02:03:50,560 --> 02:03:54,760 to put forth yet another resolution that says, let's put an end to this. 1499 02:03:54,900 --> 02:03:59,180 I think that we lose what we lose is not only our innocence. 1500 02:03:59,740 --> 02:04:06,420 It's not only, we're not just harming the truth, and I wish that was merely the only problem that we had. 1501 02:04:06,980 --> 02:04:10,520 We're losing huge numbers of people who say, I'm not running for office. 1502 02:04:10,520 --> 02:04:16,200 I think I could serve, but I would not endure that, I would not put myself, I would not put my family through that. 1503 02:04:16,660 --> 02:04:22,620 And I think that we only harm ourselves as a township if we don't put this to an end, once and for all. 1504 02:04:22,780 --> 02:04:27,960 I don't know that a resolution is going to stop it, but again, I think it puts us on the record. 1505 02:04:28,360 --> 02:04:33,400 It puts those who have been involved on the record are saying, are we going to stop this, are we not going to? 1506 02:04:35,740 --> 02:04:37,960 Yes, Councilmember Rice, and then I'll get. 1507 02:04:40,280 --> 02:04:45,940 Say thank you to Alan for bringing that issue up, putting it on the agenda and also for Dr. Toffler's statement. 1508 02:04:46,720 --> 02:04:52,700 And I think to the point that Alan mentioned that, you know, that we have so many qualified, 1509 02:04:53,060 --> 02:04:59,220 capable, such a rich wealth of human capital in our community that would not dare to engage simply 1510 02:04:59,220 --> 02:05:01,100 because of the negative campaigning. 1511 02:05:01,100 --> 02:05:07,040 And I think that that is a travesty and a loss to us of active community members by that demonstration. 1512 02:05:07,240 --> 02:05:13,900 Having just gone through that process, I know that I spoke to many of my colleagues on a number of occasions about trying to make sure that we kept it positive. 1513 02:05:14,780 --> 02:05:19,840 I know that that was my mission, I know I did repudiate and have conversations to try to keep it positive. 1514 02:05:20,440 --> 02:05:31,040 I know that it's challenging to do so, but I think that it speaks to the fact that the caliber of people that running that there's so many good qualities and so much positive energy that could be used. 1515 02:05:31,040 --> 02:05:36,940 to the betterment of this community, that it's not necessary to stoop to the levels I believe that some of us did. 1516 02:05:37,180 --> 02:05:43,340 Because there's so many positive things to focus on, and I know that that's something that we tried I did with my campaign. 1517 02:05:43,820 --> 02:05:52,200 And I just think that again, Alan Stone's point that it doesn't set a good precedent, you know, moving forward. 1518 02:05:52,400 --> 02:05:54,140 It causes us to have less engaged community. 1519 02:05:54,240 --> 02:05:59,100 I think the voter turnout was an indication of the fact that so many people are disengaged, 1520 02:05:59,100 --> 02:06:01,740 because they don't like what they see. 1521 02:06:02,280 --> 02:06:13,480 And I think that there's so much more that we could be doing to engage our community by being held accountable to the facts, stick to the issues, and not the personalities and tear apart the personalities. 1522 02:06:13,900 --> 02:06:20,800 And I would just like to personally express my, in my sorrow, to what Mr. 1523 02:06:20,960 --> 02:06:23,300 Sohn endured, Chuck Powers endured. 1524 02:06:23,300 --> 02:06:28,720 And I know that it was back and forth, some things that Ellie endured in terms of, you know, just back and forth 1525 02:06:28,720 --> 02:06:34,040 mudsling that was so unnecessary and not addressing the facts. 1526 02:06:35,300 --> 02:06:42,040 I saw pages of campaign literature dedicated to other people, instead of spending that money 1527 02:06:42,040 --> 02:06:46,240 touting the positives, it was used to degrade another candidate. 1528 02:06:46,620 --> 02:06:49,460 And I did see that on both sides, I still have those pieces of literature. 1529 02:06:49,460 --> 02:06:54,420 So I'm just speaking to the fact that if everyone could stick to the issues, I think we 1530 02:06:54,420 --> 02:06:55,360 would all be better served. 1531 02:06:55,620 --> 02:06:56,740 Thank you, Council Member Rice. 1532 02:06:57,020 --> 02:07:00,500 And by the way, there was a piece about me negative how to great picture of me. 1533 02:07:00,580 --> 02:07:02,300 I was very impressed with the author of that. 1534 02:07:02,500 --> 02:07:04,180 So, unfortunately, it was anonymous. 1535 02:07:05,980 --> 02:07:06,700 Councilman Castle. 1536 02:07:08,080 --> 02:07:14,670 So I just on this issue, every day I send out a motivational quote in it. 1537 02:07:14,830 --> 02:07:17,590 I think that the one I sent out this morning is a bit of an opportunity. 1538 02:07:17,590 --> 02:07:20,690 It says, on good teams, coaches hold players accountable. 1539 02:07:20,890 --> 02:07:23,190 On great teams, players hold players accountable. 1540 02:07:23,750 --> 02:07:26,530 However, the reality is that you can't hold another player accountable 1541 02:07:26,530 --> 02:07:28,330 if you haven't held yourself accountable first. 1542 02:07:29,590 --> 02:07:35,930 I think that's relevant because everyone has a degree of accountability 1543 02:07:35,930 --> 02:07:40,710 for their own actions to speak the truth, to have truthful actions. 1544 02:07:42,050 --> 02:07:44,410 And I really, I watched this campaign from the sideline 1545 02:07:44,410 --> 02:07:46,230 and I saw some really despicable things. 1546 02:07:47,410 --> 02:07:49,850 And it was shameful, it really, really was. 1547 02:07:51,110 --> 02:07:56,630 The concern I have as it relates to moving forward is, you know, 1548 02:07:56,970 --> 02:08:02,270 in holding individuals accountable, there's no ordinance that requires someone to sign the campaign pledge. 1549 02:08:03,570 --> 02:08:09,870 There's also no consequence if you violate the pledge, and I don't even think that you could, you know, 1550 02:08:10,150 --> 02:08:14,450 force someone to sign something as it relates to running for publicly elected office, 1551 02:08:15,310 --> 02:08:19,610 that would infringe upon their right to do so otherwise, because I don't think that the 1552 02:08:19,610 --> 02:08:22,430 municipality would have that power, and maybe they do, but I don't think they would. 1553 02:08:24,330 --> 02:08:29,170 But if we endorse a resolution, it is merely a feel good resolution. 1554 02:08:29,330 --> 02:08:32,210 As I said, the classic bag resolution was a feel good resolution. 1555 02:08:32,310 --> 02:08:33,230 It doesn't really do anything. 1556 02:08:34,030 --> 02:08:35,830 It just makes us feel good for passing it. 1557 02:08:36,150 --> 02:08:39,590 Then it becomes one more thing that doesn't actually solve the problem. 1558 02:08:39,990 --> 02:08:43,510 It just makes us all feel good as if we've taken a step in the right direction. 1559 02:08:43,510 --> 02:08:45,830 when people were just going to turn their backs on it anyway. 1560 02:08:46,870 --> 02:08:54,570 I think Dr. Toffler for coming up, because what she reminded me of were two other quotes. 1561 02:08:54,590 --> 02:08:58,570 One is that by Martin Luther King, the Ark of the Morrow University's long, and it 1562 02:08:58,570 --> 02:09:03,790 has been towards justice, and for those who have spoken so negatively and so deplorable about 1563 02:09:03,790 --> 02:09:10,670 others, there's a force called Karma, there's another force called Prayer, and both seem to 1564 02:09:10,670 --> 02:09:14,790 work, maybe not in the timing that we want them, but they do work. 1565 02:09:15,350 --> 02:09:18,910 And the other thing is this, it's won by President Obama. 1566 02:09:19,070 --> 02:09:22,990 And he said that people make big elections about small issues. 1567 02:09:24,190 --> 02:09:29,330 And I saw a lot of small issues being hurled back and forth in this election. 1568 02:09:29,530 --> 02:09:35,490 Personal, petty, small issues, and some of the much larger issues didn't get the air time that they should have. 1569 02:09:35,950 --> 02:09:49,630 So, if maybe people aren't talking about the big issues because they don't have big issues to stand behind and the people who are sitting on anonymous messages don't have anything to stand upon. 1570 02:09:49,830 --> 02:09:59,530 So, I think that the change really has to come from the candidates and I think that we need to recruit younger, older, middle-aged, 1571 02:09:59,530 --> 02:10:06,590 Just individuals who want to change and somehow find the way to insulate them from the negativity and maybe that is 1572 02:10:06,590 --> 02:10:09,950 You know putting a cap on the amount of money that you could spend on can I don't know what it is 1573 02:10:09,950 --> 02:10:16,830 But whatever it is, this has got to change because this this really fractured and polarized some people in the community and 1574 02:10:17,730 --> 02:10:23,550 I'm sorry to see something in nastiness. I am thankful to have watched this from the sidelines, but 1575 02:10:24,530 --> 02:10:26,170 We can do much better than that 1576 02:10:26,170 --> 02:10:32,330 Okay, subcommittee for prosecutor and clerk interviews, including council elect. 1577 02:10:33,050 --> 02:10:35,250 This is by Deputy Mayor Lee Whitecats. 1578 02:10:36,680 --> 02:10:47,550 We have a swearing in July second, and that that opportunity we want to swear in our prosecutors. 1579 02:10:48,230 --> 02:10:51,250 In addition, we started looking for a new clerk. 1580 02:10:51,250 --> 02:10:58,530 What I would like to request is we have a subcommittee for the prosecutor from the past, 1581 02:10:58,710 --> 02:11:03,010 which I believe was myself, the mayor, and Deputy Mayor Pruitt. 1582 02:11:03,610 --> 02:11:09,210 I would like to ask the council to continue that subcommittee, and if we need a formal vote. 1583 02:11:09,730 --> 02:11:17,150 And to also do the clerk interviews as well, but since we have the opportunity to have the 1584 02:11:17,990 --> 02:11:23,010 We can invite both the lex to participate since ultimately it's going to be their vote as well. 1585 02:11:23,570 --> 02:11:28,090 But this way we can have, this way A, we can go through the process properly. 1586 02:11:28,410 --> 02:11:36,510 And B, we can, at the right time, swear in the prosecutor and so is any objection to myself, 1587 02:11:37,090 --> 02:11:40,570 Deputy Mayor Pruitt and the mayor, the mayor, Mohamed. 1588 02:11:40,890 --> 02:11:41,190 Yes. 1589 02:11:41,190 --> 02:11:51,410 I would actually, I'd like to sit on that subcommittee for the prosecutor since the prosecutor is going to be named on July 1st. 1590 02:11:51,910 --> 02:11:53,730 I'd very much like to sit on that subcommittee. 1591 02:11:55,270 --> 02:11:57,410 There's a little piece of information right now. 1592 02:11:58,530 --> 02:12:06,250 We have three prosecutors functioned somehow to cover that particular activity. 1593 02:12:06,250 --> 02:12:08,910 So it's not a prosecutor. 1594 02:12:09,390 --> 02:12:13,590 We have had three prosecutors that have functioned fairly well. 1595 02:12:14,290 --> 02:12:15,710 I'm not sure we're clear about that. 1596 02:12:15,970 --> 02:12:18,090 So let me explain why I'd like to tell in the committee. 1597 02:12:18,170 --> 02:12:19,590 And I want to be really, really frank about this. 1598 02:12:20,110 --> 02:12:22,230 We had three, but we started out with four. 1599 02:12:22,810 --> 02:12:25,710 Our fourth is now the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State. 1600 02:12:26,210 --> 02:12:29,390 And that was a prosecutor that was never utilized. 1601 02:12:29,390 --> 02:12:37,690 So it is – it was absolutely absurd to me to have – to have heard a conversation 1602 02:12:37,690 --> 02:12:44,170 that ensued between the now deputy assistant secretary of state and the reason why she 1603 02:12:44,170 --> 02:12:45,390 was not added to the rotation. 1604 02:12:45,830 --> 02:12:50,290 And the reason I want to sit in on that subcommittee is because I'd like to have an opportunity 1605 02:12:50,290 --> 02:12:58,090 to discuss with the lead prosecutor who makes the schedule why we had such a valuable asset 1606 02:12:58,090 --> 02:13:02,690 that in someone who was also a former administrative law judge who was never utilized in her time 1607 02:13:02,690 --> 02:13:03,650 in serving for T-nec. 1608 02:13:04,170 --> 02:13:09,790 Because that in and of itself, Deputy Mayor Dr. Pruitt in my opinion was a travesty. 1609 02:13:10,170 --> 02:13:14,730 And having had the exit interview with the now Deputy Assistant Secretary of State who 1610 02:13:14,730 --> 02:13:18,890 worked for T-nec and was never utilized, I think that we need to get to the bottom of that 1611 02:13:18,890 --> 02:13:23,550 because there are some messages that were sent in that particular individual never being utilized. 1612 02:13:24,270 --> 02:13:27,530 That might reverberate for years to come. 1613 02:13:27,530 --> 02:13:36,270 So I'm going to say, and I know it's Jason Castle Knight, I'm okay with myself, Councilman Castle and 1614 02:13:36,270 --> 02:13:42,990 Deputy Mayor Pruitt, and adding the two elects as well as long as, as long as my colleagues that are going 1615 02:13:42,990 --> 02:13:49,530 to continue are okay with that concept, if it's just a matter of trying to get clarification, 1616 02:13:50,230 --> 02:13:54,090 maybe that's not the meeting, but maybe it is the meeting, you know, to the, you can- 1617 02:13:54,090 --> 02:13:58,130 Well, no, no. The ultimately the ones that are going to vote in the new prosecutors, 1618 02:13:58,470 --> 02:14:01,450 they're just going to be have to be a recommendation from the subcommittee, 1619 02:14:01,770 --> 02:14:05,390 and obviously you're going to have to go to the full council. 1620 02:14:05,990 --> 02:14:08,510 So is council okay with myself? 1621 02:14:09,150 --> 02:14:18,590 Deputy Mayor Pruitt, Councilman Castle, and inviting the two elects for both the interviews. 1622 02:14:19,150 --> 02:14:20,490 Once again, it's just the interviews. 1623 02:14:20,490 --> 02:14:26,630 It's just interviews and not even no formal election, no formal action, so I have no problem with this. 1624 02:14:26,730 --> 02:14:27,910 Okay, so can I get a formal vote? 1625 02:14:28,130 --> 02:14:30,430 And since they're not elected, it's not a quorum issue. 1626 02:14:32,590 --> 02:14:36,450 Can I get a formal vote on that Mr. Clerk? 1627 02:14:37,190 --> 02:14:37,610 I'll make a motion. 1628 02:14:38,110 --> 02:14:38,610 I'll ask a second. 1629 02:14:39,230 --> 02:14:40,290 Okay, so who's going to be the motion? 1630 02:14:41,150 --> 02:14:41,750 Councilman Castle. 1631 02:14:41,870 --> 02:14:42,270 It's his night. 1632 02:14:43,110 --> 02:14:44,030 Second is yourself? 1633 02:14:44,230 --> 02:14:44,650 Death in your cat? 1634 02:14:45,210 --> 02:14:45,610 Yes. 1635 02:14:46,030 --> 02:14:46,270 Okay. 1636 02:14:46,770 --> 02:14:48,290 Rule call, Councilman Castle. 1637 02:14:48,490 --> 02:14:48,630 Yes. 1638 02:14:49,410 --> 02:14:55,710 Councilwoman Ramirez. Yes. Councilman Schwartz. Yes. Councilman Tau. Yes. 1639 02:14:55,710 --> 02:14:57,310 Yes, definitely remember it. 1640 02:14:57,530 --> 02:14:57,770 Yes. 1641 02:14:58,110 --> 02:14:58,790 Definitely the cats. 1642 02:14:59,050 --> 02:14:59,190 Yes. 1643 02:14:59,470 --> 02:14:59,850 Ocean pass. 1644 02:15:00,080 --> 02:15:31,560 Okay. Yes. We don't have work now. So now, now we have the subcommittee in place. Now, the next 45 days, we're going to be aggressive. Or maybe it's 30 something days. Be aggressive to try to focus on both of these items. Unveiling a mayor. Can I just say one thing? When it comes to the prosecutor, it was two main prosecutors and others potentially rotating when they 1645 02:15:31,560 --> 02:15:32,580 They were not available. 1646 02:15:33,360 --> 02:15:40,320 It was never meant to be three or any, it was two main prosecutors and others rotating 1647 02:15:40,320 --> 02:15:41,600 fully in when they were absent. 1648 02:15:42,200 --> 02:15:43,300 So, thank you. 1649 02:15:43,820 --> 02:15:44,180 That's clear. 1650 02:15:44,380 --> 02:15:44,500 Okay. 1651 02:15:45,380 --> 02:15:48,300 Unveiling of Maryland, is that P. Parker photo and council chambers? 1652 02:15:48,440 --> 02:15:56,200 This is different from what we did earlier, which is a plaque in the library, which I gave the plaque 1653 02:15:56,200 --> 02:15:58,800 information to the clerk. 1654 02:15:59,500 --> 02:16:00,020 Okay. 1655 02:16:00,020 --> 02:16:03,200 Okay, so this is a council member, Romney Rice. 1656 02:16:03,540 --> 02:16:03,680 Yes. 1657 02:16:04,560 --> 02:16:05,040 Thank you, Mayor. 1658 02:16:05,560 --> 02:16:28,060 Deputy Mayor, I wanted to say thank you to Issa for his diligence and hard work in making sure that we were able to obtain a picture that was approved by the family, and that we will be able to post and unveil that picture at our next meeting, 619, and really excited to be able to mention that I remember my the first night I took office here or the first time seating. 1659 02:16:28,640 --> 02:16:35,100 the council chambers from this purview and noticing the absence of Lizette's picture at that time. 1660 02:16:35,100 --> 02:16:39,700 So I'm really happy that we'll be able to do that at our next meeting on the 19th. 1661 02:16:39,800 --> 02:16:46,280 And hopefully, I know that we discussed this that we could invite the family and then just give notice to the community 1662 02:16:46,280 --> 02:16:49,000 to have that as a commemorative night. Thanks. 1663 02:16:49,520 --> 02:16:50,460 Okay, excellent. 1664 02:16:57,660 --> 02:16:58,820 I have 1665 02:17:04,490 --> 02:17:05,850 a copy if you want. 1666 02:17:06,830 --> 02:17:09,630 Mr. Madden, there's a copy if you want. 1667 02:17:10,290 --> 02:17:12,110 You could just give me that. That would be good. 1668 02:17:13,330 --> 02:17:14,390 Thank you. 1669 02:17:15,250 --> 02:17:16,850 Just a couple items. 1670 02:17:18,930 --> 02:17:22,390 I prepared some flyers for council. 1671 02:17:23,110 --> 02:17:28,470 We've been having serious issues and receiving a lot of complaints about grass cutting, 1672 02:17:28,470 --> 02:17:37,450 especially in the parks. Today I went to with DPW and visited Amman Park. The grass was probably 1673 02:17:38,370 --> 02:17:46,130 eight inches high. Someone had went out with their lawn mower and cut themselves, cut a path. 1674 02:17:46,730 --> 02:17:53,950 It's really difficult. It's been very challenging for DPW staff to keep up with the grass cutting 1675 02:17:54,810 --> 02:17:57,350 and to hire seasonal workers. 1676 02:17:58,190 --> 02:18:01,210 We used to have over, we used to have about 30 1677 02:18:02,250 --> 02:18:04,990 seasonals and we have the funding for about 30 1678 02:18:04,990 --> 02:18:07,990 seasonals and we, I think we only have about eight. 1679 02:18:09,350 --> 02:18:10,630 We only have about eight. 1680 02:18:11,530 --> 02:18:15,030 So in order to get the grass cuts on the parks 1681 02:18:15,030 --> 02:18:18,750 are usable, we're going to have to expand 1682 02:18:19,510 --> 02:18:23,070 and try to go a different round, try to get some younger kids 1683 02:18:23,710 --> 02:18:27,310 out there to help cut lawn and help cut grass. 1684 02:18:27,570 --> 02:18:32,150 Counseling castles, nine-year-old, are intact and grass cutter. 1685 02:18:33,730 --> 02:18:39,670 As long as there are 18 years old, I just want to get that early. 1686 02:18:39,910 --> 02:18:40,790 Do you have to have a flyer? 1687 02:18:40,870 --> 02:18:41,830 Oh, I got the flyer. 1688 02:18:42,610 --> 02:18:48,290 If you could circulate the flyer, and I'll try to promote it as well, but I'll circulate the flyer. 1689 02:18:48,510 --> 02:18:49,330 Can you email us? 1690 02:18:49,830 --> 02:18:50,030 Yes. 1691 02:18:50,570 --> 02:18:50,970 We can email. 1692 02:18:50,970 --> 02:18:53,370 We looked into the high school, is that informative to us? 1693 02:18:53,370 --> 02:18:57,130 We're going to, we just did it today, and we just came up with this today, so we'll be 1694 02:18:57,130 --> 02:18:58,050 contacted, Mr. Williams. 1695 02:18:58,050 --> 02:18:59,830 What else do we got on the list, Mr. Manager? 1696 02:18:59,970 --> 02:19:01,790 So we have that, that's going out. 1697 02:19:05,150 --> 02:19:14,850 The other item I have is items that came from May 15th meeting, traffic calming on 1698 02:19:14,850 --> 02:19:26,110 Garrison Avenue, right now we're doing a study on Garrison Avenue to determine what the extent of the issue, if there actually is a speeding problem there. 1699 02:19:26,290 --> 02:19:38,490 So working on that issue, the issue of the dog park and the owner of the company that comes to visit with 20 dogs. 1700 02:19:38,490 --> 02:19:43,070 And so I'm working with the attorney on that to come up with some sort of way to 1701 02:19:44,130 --> 02:19:47,470 possibly license the use of the park when working on that issue. 1702 02:19:47,710 --> 02:19:49,650 Can I imagine, can I add something to that? 1703 02:19:49,830 --> 02:19:57,290 Okay, I have the opportunity to visit the park recently on two occasions and met Bob. 1704 02:19:57,650 --> 02:20:02,250 I met Bobby and the residents there actually took my dog there to the park. 1705 02:20:02,710 --> 02:20:04,570 And he really does have a great operation. 1706 02:20:04,570 --> 02:20:09,350 And he knows a lot about dogs, and first upon hearing about it, 1707 02:20:09,570 --> 02:20:12,030 it sounded awfully strange, so I went to investigate myself, 1708 02:20:12,310 --> 02:20:16,030 and it really is an improvement and an asset. 1709 02:20:16,270 --> 02:20:19,050 So I hope that we can find some measure to include him. 1710 02:20:19,410 --> 02:20:22,470 The residents really love him, and it seems like the dogs do too. 1711 02:20:23,130 --> 02:20:23,590 Yeah, I agree. 1712 02:20:23,790 --> 02:20:24,950 It's a real asset to the park. 1713 02:20:25,070 --> 02:20:27,350 It's almost like the kids going swimming, swimming, 1714 02:20:27,470 --> 02:20:28,870 or bringing a professional life card. 1715 02:20:29,370 --> 02:20:30,850 And that's what's being done here. 1716 02:20:30,850 --> 02:20:35,690 You've got residents, dogs, bringing this professional to oversee and to help. 1717 02:20:36,230 --> 02:20:39,750 So I think the attorney and the manager came up with that one just now. 1718 02:20:40,330 --> 02:20:46,410 So you've got the attorney and the manager working on a resolution and we're going to try to speak to Bobby. 1719 02:20:46,530 --> 02:20:52,450 Maybe we even want to think about maybe widening that door walk a little bit. 1720 02:20:53,050 --> 02:20:53,890 So we have some discussion. 1721 02:20:54,070 --> 02:20:57,170 That by step, I don't think it's, I don't think it would be expensive to do with that. 1722 02:20:58,290 --> 02:21:04,870 If I may, that when I went and there were about 20, 25 dogs there, there is a lot of room in there. 1723 02:21:05,130 --> 02:21:12,350 Also, they tend to use the larger area and leave the smaller area closer to the parking lot unused. 1724 02:21:13,050 --> 02:21:19,790 Again, I think it is a benefit, but I think let's, you know, let's go, let's go, we have working right before we're done. 1725 02:21:23,310 --> 02:21:26,330 I'm sorry, I can't attend, I'm sorry. 1726 02:21:26,630 --> 02:21:28,650 Can we just let the manager finish the work? 1727 02:21:29,970 --> 02:21:36,150 Also, we're working on, I'm working with the attorney on a resolution for the FDU alliance, 1728 02:21:37,390 --> 02:21:44,430 so that they're able to become an official township organization where they 1729 02:21:44,430 --> 02:21:49,530 We'd be covered on our insurance when they offer programs at F.D.U. 1730 02:21:52,430 --> 02:21:58,610 There was an issue about the signs on Maple Street and the DPW looking at that. 1731 02:21:59,070 --> 02:21:59,890 Thank you. 1732 02:22:01,010 --> 02:22:05,740 The budget action summary is on the website. 1733 02:22:06,440 --> 02:22:15,920 We canceled the workshop meeting and we put the presentation for affordable housing, the PowerPoint that's on the website. 1734 02:22:15,920 --> 02:22:16,620 Thank you. 1735 02:22:16,760 --> 02:22:16,980 Perfect. 1736 02:22:17,960 --> 02:22:18,960 But we're very good. 1737 02:22:19,140 --> 02:22:19,720 Something to ask. 1738 02:22:19,840 --> 02:22:20,000 Yeah. 1739 02:22:20,180 --> 02:22:26,760 I'm going to add an item that we had a councilman castles leaving. 1740 02:22:27,360 --> 02:22:29,360 Enjoy the rest of your councilman castles tonight. 1741 02:22:29,520 --> 02:22:31,360 If you get pulled over, somebody's in a tiniq. 1742 02:22:31,700 --> 02:22:33,800 Just let them know it's councilman castles tonight tonight. 1743 02:22:35,440 --> 02:22:40,560 I have someone complained about a store on C-Lane. 1744 02:22:40,560 --> 02:22:50,300 The story is kind of, it has an open window with nothing showing and pallets for material 1745 02:22:50,300 --> 02:22:54,900 to be brought in left outside the store. 1746 02:22:56,420 --> 02:23:02,640 And I inquired as to what it was that was going on inside the store and they told me 1747 02:23:02,640 --> 02:23:11,740 that was a a a a a you an appliance store. It's got you know wash machines. It's got 1748 02:23:11,740 --> 02:23:20,060 a wash I mean refrigerators and stoves and so I went and I spoke to them yesterday and 1749 02:23:20,060 --> 02:23:24,820 I spoke to them again today. And since you don't have a compliance officer. I want to 1750 02:23:24,820 --> 02:23:30,700 install Mr. Cats is the local appliance officer to check on them the next couple of days and 1751 02:23:30,700 --> 02:23:32,880 make sure they move the pallets off the front of the bill. 1752 02:23:33,160 --> 02:23:35,400 Did you see a client's officer or a kind of client's officer? 1753 02:23:35,520 --> 02:23:39,500 So Mr. Manager, can you just have the department send a letter? 1754 02:23:39,920 --> 02:23:43,320 I will have to tell you, I really like their sign in the window. 1755 02:23:44,000 --> 02:23:46,600 But I went there today, very decorative. 1756 02:23:46,900 --> 02:23:48,220 But they do, but it is a nice sign. 1757 02:23:48,400 --> 02:23:49,820 So I went there today. 1758 02:23:50,180 --> 02:23:54,800 I met with one of the workers inside. 1759 02:23:55,380 --> 02:23:58,180 They really have nice appliances too, really nice stuff. 1760 02:23:58,180 --> 02:24:13,600 So I met with, I met with them, I talked to them about the palace in front and he said he'd have them out of there by tomorrow, so we'll follow up to make sure that we addressed that because I too was there at Cedar Lane, you know, yesterday it was a major 1761 02:24:14,560 --> 02:24:23,880 great event thanks to all involved and promoting that but I thought it was a hazard, you know, in the fact that that's a liability for the township and hopefully tomorrow they will be removed. 1762 02:24:23,880 --> 02:24:30,960 And I think it was some other concerns about signage and other things when we're talking about trying to attract our businesses. 1763 02:24:31,420 --> 02:24:36,500 And I know that our senator and resident made a complaint in butter to our attention. 1764 02:24:36,740 --> 02:24:41,240 That we want to make sure that we are ensuring, especially if they're new to the community, 1765 02:24:41,820 --> 02:24:45,980 that they're in compliance and upholding the standard that we would expect for 1766 02:24:45,980 --> 02:24:48,580 a store on a seat of lane in any other business district. 1767 02:24:48,580 --> 02:24:53,120 All right, and let me just have one last thing to my report, the loose watch room. 1768 02:24:54,000 --> 02:24:55,820 I'm having a plaque designed. 1769 02:24:57,100 --> 02:24:58,720 Could we see the proof of council friends? 1770 02:24:59,060 --> 02:24:59,160 Yes. 1771 02:24:59,540 --> 02:24:59,740 Okay. 1772 02:25:00,020 --> 02:25:05,600 So once I get that done and council approves it, you know, we'll get the water to plaque, 1773 02:25:05,880 --> 02:25:11,780 water on a real nice plaque, and then we'll schedule that date once I get that done. 1774 02:25:12,340 --> 02:25:12,600 We're good. 1775 02:25:12,740 --> 02:25:12,980 Okay. 1776 02:25:13,120 --> 02:25:14,740 Public hearing and adoption of ordinances. 1777 02:25:18,370 --> 02:25:18,910 What do we see? 1778 02:25:18,910 --> 02:25:23,830 There's a public hearing on Burden County Open Space Recreation Flood Plant Protection 1779 02:25:23,830 --> 02:25:28,630 Farmland and Historic Preservation Trust for a municipal parking improvement program 1780 02:25:28,630 --> 02:25:31,350 for resurfacing of tennis courts at Hawthorne Park. 1781 02:25:31,810 --> 02:25:36,850 So this is a public hearing and it's in connection with resolution number. 1782 02:25:39,150 --> 02:25:41,010 So do I have to open up this? 1783 02:25:41,390 --> 02:25:46,410 Yes, that's me on public, is resolution number 88-2018. 1784 02:25:46,410 --> 02:25:51,130 Okay, this is the public here on what he said, if anyone wishes to comment, please raise your hand. 1785 02:25:51,210 --> 02:25:53,430 Wait to recognize Dr. Powers. 1786 02:25:53,930 --> 02:25:54,190 It 1787 02:26:00,460 --> 02:26:10,820 is a good idea to get the Hawthorne courts finally, finally addressed that they've been waiting for a very long time. 1788 02:26:11,940 --> 02:26:19,440 And the fact that we're putting forth such a sort of small piddly piece of request from the county, 1789 02:26:19,440 --> 02:26:30,940 That entire capability has been quadrupled in the last year and the amount of money to 1790 02:26:30,940 --> 02:26:36,400 be available through green acres for a wide range of things we should know because we 1791 02:26:36,400 --> 02:26:38,420 got $750,000 for the sportsplex. 1792 02:26:39,300 --> 02:26:46,300 It's crazy for this township to be sending as much money to the county and to the state 1793 02:26:46,300 --> 02:26:51,700 as we are and getting back, I believe, something like about a 10th of what it is that we 1794 02:26:51,700 --> 02:26:58,640 said. Something has to be done for the township to figure out how to get access to what 1795 02:26:58,640 --> 02:27:03,840 it should be getting just on a fair, fair basis, not just not taking to count anything else 1796 02:27:03,840 --> 02:27:08,380 about the demographics of this town. It's obviously we should go ahead and do it. It's 1797 02:27:08,380 --> 02:27:11,740 so light and it's so tiny we've got to do better. 1798 02:27:11,740 --> 02:27:12,920 Thank you, Dr. Powers. 1799 02:27:13,480 --> 02:27:14,360 Hearing is now closed. 1800 02:27:15,200 --> 02:27:16,400 Do we take a roll call on this? 1801 02:27:16,940 --> 02:27:19,600 Mr. Deputy Mayor, just to elaborate on that. 1802 02:27:20,340 --> 02:27:22,160 Do we do a roll call before we, do we? 1803 02:27:22,320 --> 02:27:23,360 No, it's part of the concept of that. 1804 02:27:23,480 --> 02:27:23,700 Yeah. 1805 02:27:23,860 --> 02:27:24,180 Okay, fine. 1806 02:27:24,340 --> 02:27:24,420 Good. 1807 02:27:24,660 --> 02:27:30,140 A Congressman Gottheimer speaks about mooture states, states that are, you know, we send money 1808 02:27:30,140 --> 02:27:33,520 to the federal government, they get money back and we get nothing in return. 1809 02:27:34,560 --> 02:27:35,660 Dr. Powers is right. 1810 02:27:35,660 --> 02:27:42,940 We, the county passed its own open space trust fund, which quite loopled from a quarter 1811 02:27:42,940 --> 02:27:48,360 of a cent to match the same one cent that we collect for our open space trust fund. 1812 02:27:48,640 --> 02:27:51,800 We contribute $500,000 a year. 1813 02:27:52,120 --> 02:27:56,460 We get back a fraction of that, as Dr. Powell said, and I've seen the same numbers. 1814 02:27:56,680 --> 02:27:58,820 We get back about ten cents on the dollar. 1815 02:27:59,160 --> 02:28:02,800 If there are any county employees here, we should be yelling and screaming at them saying, 1816 02:28:02,800 --> 02:28:07,960 And why aren't you making sure that we get our fair share of county aid? 1817 02:28:08,300 --> 02:28:10,020 And we should be lobbying on our behalf. 1818 02:28:10,140 --> 02:28:14,020 We should be pushing to ensure that we get that open space money. 1819 02:28:14,120 --> 02:28:18,340 And one of the things that we are systematically short-changed on is acquiring open space. 1820 02:28:18,480 --> 02:28:21,920 Not just its recreation where we get a tiny, everybody gets a little bit. 1821 02:28:22,520 --> 02:28:25,420 It's open space, because we're not acquiring open space. 1822 02:28:25,540 --> 02:28:28,080 Because it's places like Franklin Lakes and Alpine and 1823 02:28:28,080 --> 02:28:30,800 who knows what, that have lots of open land to acquire. 1824 02:28:31,580 --> 02:28:35,620 We don't have that, we're not using that, we don't have historic sites, we're not getting historic money. 1825 02:28:36,060 --> 02:28:43,860 We need to be lobbying far, far far more effectively to make sure that we are seeing a fair share return on our tax dollars and 1826 02:28:43,860 --> 02:28:45,660 what goes into the county that we get it back. 1827 02:28:46,320 --> 02:28:53,340 I just want to address what was said at the mic, we don't just put in one item, okay. 1828 02:28:53,340 --> 02:29:06,800 We put in three items, they called us back and told us choose one of the three items that you would, you know, like to potentially receive an award on. 1829 02:29:07,720 --> 02:29:17,340 So they know how much they have to divide amongst the municipalities and we prioritize the projects and that's the one that we submitted. 1830 02:29:17,340 --> 02:29:26,300 But we initially submitted more than that and we always do, we always try to submit as much as we can. 1831 02:29:27,480 --> 02:29:33,740 But there's, I guess there's a formula they used to split up the money between everyone in our region. 1832 02:29:34,180 --> 02:29:36,260 Public area and adoption on order says. 1833 02:29:36,260 --> 02:29:37,620 ordinance 1834 02:29:40,410 --> 02:29:59,970 number 12-2018 and ordinance amending section 36-11.2 of the Vision 1 of Article 2 of Chapter 36 entitled Traffic of a touch of code deleting restricted on street parking spaces for handicapped from 315 Beach Street and ordinance 13-2018 and ordinance amending appendix 4 1835 02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:14,260 Section 2-24, Article 3 of Chapter 2, the code of the township of Tineck to provide for the mandatory direct deposit of net pay for all employees of the township of Tineck and its board, commissions, bureaus, departments, or other public agencies thereof. 1836 02:30:15,360 --> 02:30:23,340 Can we ask and we discuss this, can we ask the manager to explain because 132018 I think people are very, very confused by this. 1837 02:30:23,820 --> 02:30:26,100 122018 is an ordinance that adds handicap 13. 1838 02:30:26,500 --> 02:30:29,240 I'm going to say both, so we have an mandate in elaborate. 1839 02:30:30,780 --> 02:30:35,080 122018 is the ordinance adds handicap restrictive parking along a portion of beach street. 1840 02:30:35,780 --> 02:30:36,600 place away. 1841 02:30:37,040 --> 02:30:37,960 Where's that one spot? 1842 02:30:38,060 --> 02:30:38,980 Oh, you know what? 1843 02:30:39,300 --> 02:30:42,460 My scripts has ads, but Dileets. 1844 02:30:44,240 --> 02:30:51,600 Ordnance 132018 is an ordinance that amends appendix to Section 224.3 of Chapter 2 of 1845 02:30:51,600 --> 02:30:55,860 the Township Code to provide for mandatory direct deposit of net pay for all employees 1846 02:30:55,860 --> 02:31:01,700 of the Township of Tnec, which will mean that the Tnec taxpayers will save how much money 1847 02:31:01,700 --> 02:31:02,020 count. 1848 02:31:02,020 --> 02:31:04,860 That's about 30,000, but I'm sorry, about 30,000. 1849 02:31:05,140 --> 02:31:08,320 30,000 for a direct deposit. 1850 02:31:09,140 --> 02:31:11,540 Okay, do I have to open the hearing? 1851 02:31:11,720 --> 02:31:14,740 Yes, here is now open and which comment please raise your hand. 1852 02:31:14,840 --> 02:31:17,680 We recognize most close clearing. 1853 02:31:18,180 --> 02:31:19,560 Do I have a second? 1854 02:31:20,140 --> 02:31:20,520 Second. 1855 02:31:20,780 --> 02:31:21,200 On a favor? 1856 02:31:22,060 --> 02:31:22,580 Okay. 1857 02:31:23,140 --> 02:31:25,840 Motion on the adoption of ordinances 12 and 13? 1858 02:31:26,560 --> 02:31:26,760 Yes. 1859 02:31:27,980 --> 02:31:28,500 Second. 1860 02:31:29,120 --> 02:31:29,260 Yeah. 1861 02:31:30,540 --> 02:31:31,600 Councillor Omanami-Rais? 1862 02:31:31,860 --> 02:31:32,060 Yes. 1863 02:31:32,880 --> 02:31:33,840 Councillor Schorch? 1864 02:31:34,080 --> 02:31:34,240 Yes. 1865 02:31:34,700 --> 02:31:35,400 Councillor Ossohn? 1866 02:31:35,540 --> 02:31:35,840 Yes. 1867 02:31:36,500 --> 02:31:37,440 Definitely approve it? 1868 02:31:37,620 --> 02:31:37,800 Yeah. 1869 02:31:38,180 --> 02:31:38,900 Definitely merit counts. 1870 02:31:39,340 --> 02:31:39,540 Yes. 1871 02:31:39,780 --> 02:31:40,400 Orances are adopted. 1872 02:31:40,780 --> 02:31:41,060 Okay. 1873 02:31:41,680 --> 02:31:43,400 Can I have someone move the consent agenda? 1874 02:31:43,980 --> 02:31:46,360 There's a motion to move the consent agenda in the bill amount of. 1875 02:31:47,300 --> 02:31:54,460 The bill is the amount of $5,662,335 and 39 cents. 1876 02:31:54,720 --> 02:31:55,060 So moved. 1877 02:31:55,720 --> 02:31:56,080 Second. 1878 02:31:57,180 --> 02:32:05,880 Mr. Clerk, may I pull the minutes and resolution is 85, 2018, 87. 1879 02:32:09,640 --> 02:32:13,200 And I'm just going to ask for an explanation of 107, but I'll pull that as well. 1880 02:32:14,240 --> 02:32:15,240 I was just going to ask. 1881 02:32:15,640 --> 02:32:20,900 I was going to ask for a further elaboration of 286 as well, just for which one? 1882 02:32:22,360 --> 02:32:23,240 86, 2018. 1883 02:32:25,500 --> 02:32:28,640 Just explanation, because I think it's something great in terms of shifts. 1884 02:32:28,640 --> 02:32:32,340 The services will pass everything, vote on everything else. 1885 02:32:32,340 --> 02:32:33,900 I think it should be, just discuss it. 1886 02:32:34,580 --> 02:32:34,900 I mentioned 1887 02:32:37,780 --> 02:32:47,980 motion 8407, with the exception of 85, 86, 87, and 107. 1888 02:32:48,720 --> 02:32:54,580 And as you had mentioned, Deputy Mayor Katz, the resolution to confirm the start and date, 1889 02:32:54,780 --> 02:32:59,120 start time and date of the organization meeting is listed as resolution 104. 1890 02:33:00,100 --> 02:33:07,360 I think we know what the choreography isn't what this is going to mean, but again, just to explain for the benefit of the public. 1891 02:33:07,700 --> 02:33:09,340 There's only 104 as well. 1892 02:33:09,620 --> 02:33:09,680 Yes. 1893 02:33:10,220 --> 02:33:10,400 Okay. 1894 02:33:10,660 --> 02:33:12,000 One other quick council member. 1895 02:33:12,280 --> 02:33:13,560 Exponation 106. 1896 02:33:14,040 --> 02:33:15,400 Pulling 106 as well. 1897 02:33:17,600 --> 02:33:18,080 Okay. 1898 02:33:19,700 --> 02:33:26,460 So we have the motion in a second with the exception of 85, 86, 87, 104, 106, and 107. 1899 02:33:28,730 --> 02:33:37,650 roll call. Okay. Council, I'm your ice. Yes. Council, whose words? Yes. Council, I'm sorry. I know on the bill list. Yes, I'm everything else. 1900 02:33:40,730 --> 02:33:42,250 Let me approve it. Yes. 1901 02:33:42,990 --> 02:33:56,250 Let me recap. I'm saying on the bill list and I'm saying on 91 to 102 and 105 and 106. I want to six people. Okay. Well, I'll be 1902 02:33:56,250 --> 02:33:57,250 of standing on that one week. 1903 02:33:57,690 --> 02:33:58,650 Everything else passes? 1904 02:34:00,150 --> 02:34:00,930 Okay, next. 1905 02:34:01,830 --> 02:34:03,590 Councilmember Sohn, you did 85? 1906 02:34:03,830 --> 02:34:06,590 Yeah, well, again, just going to ask the manager again. 1907 02:34:07,090 --> 02:34:09,590 Mr. Manager, Deputy Mayor, I know that this is a concern, 1908 02:34:09,830 --> 02:34:12,410 but whether we do want to fill or not for these positions, 1909 02:34:13,010 --> 02:34:14,790 an issue, the issue was raised. 1910 02:34:15,770 --> 02:34:18,710 Mr. Rose spoke about, you know, if we haven't filled it, 1911 02:34:18,830 --> 02:34:20,550 should we fill it, maybe we don't need to fill it? 1912 02:34:20,890 --> 02:34:22,450 Or as we discussed at the last minute, 1913 02:34:22,650 --> 02:34:23,390 if it was your circumstances. 1914 02:34:23,390 --> 02:34:28,010 Whether it's right or wrong, you guys are about to go to in more intense negotiations and conversations 1915 02:34:28,010 --> 02:34:29,030 regarding the budget. 1916 02:34:29,450 --> 02:34:29,870 Why? 1917 02:34:30,250 --> 02:34:35,150 Well, correct, although, for example, I think, you know, a circumstance that Mr. 1918 02:34:35,290 --> 02:34:41,390 Rose described that we might be hiring someone that keeps us from using over time that saves us money 1919 02:34:41,390 --> 02:34:46,250 as I think we argued with the police officer we hired, where there was significant breakage. 1920 02:34:46,370 --> 02:34:50,950 It might be justified to do with now, even without the budget, but I do think it is appropriate. 1921 02:34:54,190 --> 02:34:58,530 The first item on 85 is technical assistant. 1922 02:34:59,490 --> 02:35:06,770 We have a technical assistant who's resigning to take another position close to this. 1923 02:35:07,050 --> 02:35:10,790 This is building department, this is building department. 1924 02:35:11,010 --> 02:35:17,710 So we have, we normally would have three technical assistants, this will bring us down to two. 1925 02:35:17,710 --> 02:35:26,130 And these are very, very important positions in processing of paperwork, scheduling, inspections, 1926 02:35:26,730 --> 02:35:33,770 and that's a position that you have to fill in order for building the department to run appropriately. 1927 02:35:34,490 --> 02:35:38,470 Is there savings with hiring a new person over what the old person made? 1928 02:35:38,970 --> 02:35:40,150 It should be a savings. 1929 02:35:40,370 --> 02:35:46,670 The other person who's resigning their final salary, where you'll be about 55,000, 1930 02:35:46,670 --> 02:35:57,470 The salary range for the new person begins at $41, so it's all determined by that person's experience. 1931 02:35:57,970 --> 02:36:01,110 But you've got to have those positions. We don't really have two. 1932 02:36:02,030 --> 02:36:03,890 Okay, Councillor Neill, are you? 1933 02:36:04,170 --> 02:36:05,290 Oh, did you want the last one? 1934 02:36:05,650 --> 02:36:07,730 Yeah, the second one is the police officer. 1935 02:36:08,230 --> 02:36:15,510 We have a police officer who's resigning and the person's moving to another state. 1936 02:36:17,450 --> 02:36:30,310 And his salary at resignation is 1.13 and the new salary will be 33, 4.46, that'll be significant. 1937 02:36:30,630 --> 02:36:38,050 Also, we should fill this position because of the time it's going to take to get another officer in place. 1938 02:36:38,450 --> 02:36:42,650 Is okay if we get some more explanations and then we'll do votes on all of them at the same time. 1939 02:36:42,830 --> 02:36:43,410 Is that okay, council? 1940 02:36:43,410 --> 02:36:48,050 86, 86, 1941 02:36:50,290 --> 02:36:57,670 the shared services agreement, Tina Kingwood Hackensack, is a piece of 1942 02:36:57,670 --> 02:37:07,570 swathware that's used to program their gear for receiving oxygen. 1943 02:37:07,570 --> 02:37:09,310 I forgot the name of it, I can't. 1944 02:37:11,630 --> 02:37:34,670 Scott Pax, to program that, there's Scott Pax, the TNAC is going to serve as the lead agency, they're going to purchase it, we're going to purchase it, and then the other towns are going to reimburse a portion of that, and we'll all get to use the software, because they use the same work with it. 1945 02:37:34,670 --> 02:37:40,350 7. My question, Mr. Manager, is, you know, can I see what it is, but is this an increase 1946 02:37:40,350 --> 02:37:44,910 a decrease? What will the, what will the impact be on the township role in this two years? 1947 02:37:49,880 --> 02:37:58,520 I believe that the disposal costs are about the same. I don't have the exact number. 1948 02:37:58,720 --> 02:38:03,720 I didn't, I just didn't, I don't remember what the number is exactly on the amount 1949 02:38:03,720 --> 02:38:10,780 of disposal, of course, but the impact should be the same locations that will be going 1950 02:38:10,780 --> 02:38:18,480 to travel to, you know, trucks will be traveling to to dispose of the material. 1951 02:38:18,720 --> 02:38:21,360 So there's not going to be any material impact. 1952 02:38:22,220 --> 02:38:24,280 Councillor Minnish Horace and the volunteer firefighter. 1953 02:38:24,740 --> 02:38:25,900 Yes, well, I'm sorry. 1954 02:38:26,140 --> 02:38:27,460 I'm back to the BCU, sorry. 1955 02:38:27,820 --> 02:38:28,600 I can't wait. 1956 02:38:28,860 --> 02:38:30,600 We thought you were giving up some insight on this. 1957 02:38:30,600 --> 02:38:35,780 I'm sure you would just, you're sure you could, you just say that you're talking about me, see you in the way. 1958 02:38:36,180 --> 02:38:37,240 Craig, sorry, 87. 1959 02:38:37,800 --> 02:38:38,560 That's what I want to talk about. 1960 02:38:38,900 --> 02:38:45,140 The B.C.A., is it, do we have options here, are there other, anything, I mean, why would we discuss it as options? 1961 02:38:45,400 --> 02:38:48,020 I'm not going to have, no, we don't really have options. 1962 02:38:48,580 --> 02:38:49,280 We don't really have. 1963 02:38:49,780 --> 02:38:52,740 So whatever price they say, we just say bring it, right? 1964 02:38:53,660 --> 02:38:54,620 Yeah, this is not the day. 1965 02:38:55,140 --> 02:39:00,440 Yeah, I mean, I don't think we have a, you know, a tremendous amount of stuff that would 1966 02:39:00,440 --> 02:39:10,860 dealing with, I mean, we're not the town that is, you know, doing trash disposal for the whole town, you know, empty and garbage cans. 1967 02:39:11,480 --> 02:39:12,180 How much are we talking about? 1968 02:39:12,220 --> 02:39:12,920 How much are we talking about? 1969 02:39:13,860 --> 02:39:14,760 That's my question. 1970 02:39:15,280 --> 02:39:19,660 I don't remember this specific budget number, but it's not a significant amount of money. 1971 02:39:19,720 --> 02:39:20,180 But you'll get it. 1972 02:39:20,200 --> 02:39:21,400 I have to just circulate that. 1973 02:39:21,560 --> 02:39:22,760 Shocking my budget for here. 1974 02:39:23,080 --> 02:39:23,320 Okay. 1975 02:39:23,720 --> 02:39:25,500 1-0-4-201-8. 1976 02:39:26,160 --> 02:39:36,920 So I'm happy to say it looks like I get another day in office, but Mr. Attorney, if you could just explain for the benefit of the public what the choreography is and why it's shifted from the first to the second and how this is going to work. 1977 02:39:38,600 --> 02:39:46,080 Well, there are, there were a number of religious issues with the, we're talking about the reorganization meeting. 1978 02:39:47,180 --> 02:39:52,140 So the reorganization meeting, which by statute is supposed to be on July 1st, 1979 02:39:52,140 --> 02:39:54,420 It falls on a Sunday. 1980 02:39:55,180 --> 02:39:58,220 It's my understanding from certain members of the council 1981 02:39:58,220 --> 02:40:00,980 and some incoming members, that's a fast day for them. 1982 02:40:01,580 --> 02:40:04,380 Other members, it's a religious day, observant's day. 1983 02:40:05,800 --> 02:40:13,080 And in order to in order to effectuate the statute, 1984 02:40:13,600 --> 02:40:15,040 all the council members who were, 1985 02:40:15,280 --> 02:40:17,800 do we elect it, it will be sworn in, 1986 02:40:18,200 --> 02:40:19,900 will sign the Roth of Office cards on the first, 1987 02:40:19,900 --> 02:40:22,580 so they will formally take office on the first, 1988 02:40:23,100 --> 02:40:25,360 but the reorganization meeting will take place on the second. 1989 02:40:26,600 --> 02:40:29,240 There are any number of statues out there 1990 02:40:29,240 --> 02:40:32,640 that say with a number of cases, 1991 02:40:32,640 --> 02:40:36,380 they say that when something falls on a Sunday 1992 02:40:36,380 --> 02:40:39,760 or a holiday that you're allowed to move to the next day, 1993 02:40:40,140 --> 02:40:42,500 and there's no detriment to the township 1994 02:40:42,500 --> 02:40:44,760 by moving the meeting to the first. 1995 02:40:44,820 --> 02:40:45,740 I think actually it's a benefit 1996 02:40:45,740 --> 02:40:48,100 because it's gonna allow probably more members 1997 02:40:48,100 --> 02:40:53,100 of the public to be present because of the non-religious conflicts and other conflicts 1998 02:40:53,100 --> 02:40:54,640 that will occur on that Sunday. 1999 02:40:55,040 --> 02:40:56,360 So I don't get an extra day in office. 2000 02:40:56,900 --> 02:40:57,540 No, okay. 2001 02:40:57,720 --> 02:40:58,420 So it's 630. 2002 02:40:59,380 --> 02:41:04,340 106-201-8, Mr. Mandra, can you, it just, I think I'll tell him the right thing. 2003 02:41:04,380 --> 02:41:05,320 Yeah, I just asked the question. 2004 02:41:05,500 --> 02:41:09,680 I'm like, care, one needs a liquor license, but I just want to know what that would refer to. 2005 02:41:10,480 --> 02:41:14,820 No, when it was inward manner, when it was inward manner, there was a liquor license. 2006 02:41:14,960 --> 02:41:16,320 This was called a pocket license. 2007 02:41:16,320 --> 02:41:21,660 So they own the license, they just don't use it, but it has to be renewed otherwise otherwise. 2008 02:41:21,900 --> 02:41:24,400 I mean, it's an incredibly valuable asset that they have. 2009 02:41:25,240 --> 02:41:28,420 I think they do use it actually for seniors during the holidays season. 2010 02:41:28,460 --> 02:41:29,260 Oh, oh, correct. 2011 02:41:29,440 --> 02:41:31,340 But it's not on a regular basis, they're not. 2012 02:41:32,180 --> 02:41:38,500 It allows the premises to sell license to serve you. 2013 02:41:39,000 --> 02:41:40,980 You know, alcohol and glass are open containers. 2014 02:41:41,420 --> 02:41:43,460 But they're not like a wine depot or anything like that. 2015 02:41:43,460 --> 02:41:47,080 I'll instruct my care health care provider, send me there, that's what you're saying. 2016 02:41:47,480 --> 02:41:51,060 Okay, 107-2018, Mr. Manager. 2017 02:41:52,680 --> 02:41:54,760 Honours, is there a particular question? 2018 02:41:54,980 --> 02:41:59,700 We just have one item, we just have to explain what that one item is for the amended budget. 2019 02:42:02,020 --> 02:42:04,160 You've got to give me a second, I guess, sorry. 2020 02:42:04,620 --> 02:42:10,160 It's a page of $137, an edition of $150,000 to self-insurance. 2021 02:42:13,400 --> 02:42:14,820 Is this workers' count? 2022 02:42:15,500 --> 02:42:15,760 Yes. 2023 02:42:15,760 --> 02:42:15,880 Yes. 2024 02:42:16,740 --> 02:42:17,180 Okay. 2025 02:42:17,420 --> 02:42:18,180 You can explain it again. 2026 02:42:18,240 --> 02:42:22,040 So there is, when I checked with the manager today and the accountant, there was a little bit 2027 02:42:22,040 --> 02:42:27,800 of an overage and this fund it's made for paying a claim for self-insurance purposes. 2028 02:42:28,400 --> 02:42:33,940 And this money needs to be put into the temporary budget to get us back out of the red and into 2029 02:42:33,940 --> 02:42:38,640 the black and give us a little bit of cushion and the event that claims to be paid before the 2030 02:42:38,640 --> 02:42:39,540 budget's adopted. 2031 02:42:39,540 --> 02:42:45,600 whenever that may be, hopefully on June 19th and you know that should resolve the matter. 2032 02:42:45,740 --> 02:42:46,780 This is an underage. 2033 02:42:46,940 --> 02:42:48,960 This is an underage in the right not overage. 2034 02:42:49,100 --> 02:42:49,160 Yes. 2035 02:42:49,640 --> 02:42:49,740 Okay. 2036 02:42:49,920 --> 02:42:58,460 It is, we usually budget around $800,000 to pay those claims and we've been you know 2037 02:42:58,460 --> 02:43:03,240 putting money in there slowly and we just want to make sure not only to bring up that 2038 02:43:05,480 --> 02:43:10,080 amount in the account, we want to make sure there's enough in that account to plan 2039 02:43:10,080 --> 02:43:12,000 and he claims that that may come up as well. 2040 02:43:12,100 --> 02:43:14,300 Leave your also like 60,000 in the red right now. 2041 02:43:14,440 --> 02:43:15,280 Last check, so. 2042 02:43:15,740 --> 02:43:21,500 Okay, roll call in 104, 106, 107, 85, 86, and 87. 2043 02:43:22,000 --> 02:43:23,760 I think there's also minutes and councilments on that. 2044 02:43:23,960 --> 02:43:26,380 If we leave the minutes separately. 2045 02:43:27,540 --> 02:43:27,720 Okay. 2046 02:43:28,280 --> 02:43:30,320 All right, so motion with Ellie, the mayor, council. 2047 02:43:30,320 --> 02:43:30,800 I'll second. 2048 02:43:31,220 --> 02:43:32,540 Second, council, council. 2049 02:43:32,660 --> 02:43:33,120 Councilman, on your rights? 2050 02:43:33,580 --> 02:43:33,720 Yes. 2051 02:43:34,560 --> 02:43:35,200 Councilman Schwartz? 2052 02:43:35,480 --> 02:43:35,660 Yes. 2053 02:43:36,240 --> 02:43:36,740 Councilman, so. 2054 02:43:36,980 --> 02:43:37,180 Yes. 2055 02:43:37,840 --> 02:43:38,560 Do you approve it? 2056 02:43:38,740 --> 02:43:38,880 Yep. 2057 02:43:38,880 --> 02:43:43,600 Yes, with an abstention on 106-201-8. 2058 02:43:44,680 --> 02:43:47,040 Okay, move the minutes. 2059 02:43:49,740 --> 02:43:53,540 The minutes, so let's say the missing move, just for discussion. 2060 02:43:54,520 --> 02:44:07,740 The January 11th minutes is the only meeting that is on for the entire 2018 that is on the website. 2061 02:44:07,740 --> 02:44:09,280 And again, we haven't even approved that yet. 2062 02:44:10,020 --> 02:44:19,960 So we've also had meetings on January 19th, 30th, February 13th, 15th, 22nd, 27th, March 1st, 18th, 13th, April 10th, and May 15th already. 2063 02:44:20,460 --> 02:44:23,820 That's 11 meetings where we don't have minutes. 2064 02:44:25,180 --> 02:44:30,160 For those of budget meetings where we don't know what we agreed upon and what we discussed or what happened there. 2065 02:44:30,800 --> 02:44:34,920 And there were seven closed sessions where we are in danger. 2066 02:44:34,920 --> 02:44:44,160 Again, the open session, I'll be able to see what those minutes are, and I'll be able to tell you in July or August, you know what, you know, Mr. Abbasi, you made a mistake. 2067 02:44:44,560 --> 02:44:57,620 But there's a significant likelihood that if we don't get those closed session minutes before the next meeting, that I will not have an opportunity to councilman castle not have an opportunity to review those minutes and confirm their accuracy. 2068 02:44:57,620 --> 02:44:59,980 And I think that there is a real 2069 02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:25,680 I mean, it's not just that the ten days is not just, you know, let's whip a number out of the hat. It really is important that we should be walking into, you know, meeting X and having the minutes from meeting X minus one. And I know, you know, I raised the issue. Do you have the resources, you know, is this, you know, we are not getting catching up and that we're not approving them. We just don't seem to have the minutes. And I just want to express my concern about this issue. 2070 02:45:25,680 --> 02:45:32,020 For my benefit and for the benefit of all those in the public who actually look forward to reading the minutes of our meetings sure 2071 02:45:32,020 --> 02:45:39,260 So there are three sets of closed session minutes. I've gotten approved by the attorney. They'll be circulated tomorrow and then we put on the next 2072 02:45:40,700 --> 02:45:41,100 Next 2073 02:45:41,960 --> 02:45:51,060 Meeting for the 19th I was going to circulate them on Thursday, but because there's a holiday you don't have three days to curate so I figured let's just get them out this week 2074 02:45:51,060 --> 02:45:55,920 And those cover, I believe it's the March meeting, the April meeting and the last meeting of May. 2075 02:45:56,360 --> 02:45:58,940 So you'd be caught up essentially by the next meeting on closed session. 2076 02:45:59,280 --> 02:46:03,040 For open session, we are endeavoring, you know, as fast as we can to get those going. 2077 02:46:03,440 --> 02:46:07,000 We have election next Tuesday, we have 308 opres, that's 308 opres. 2078 02:46:07,360 --> 02:46:11,140 When we were caught up with the minutes back in September of 2016, we had four opres. 2079 02:46:11,800 --> 02:46:15,320 So, you know, it waxes and it wanes, and we're doing our level best. 2080 02:46:15,560 --> 02:46:16,760 Can I just add something to that? 2081 02:46:16,760 --> 02:46:29,080 The reason he said is behind the reason that the minutes are late, the reason items aren't on the website and things like that, we don't have the staff. 2082 02:46:30,040 --> 02:46:45,740 I mean, it is so glaring, some of the things that are being complained about, we just don't have to say he cannot do 308 operas and sit in the room for eight hours or six. 2083 02:46:45,740 --> 02:46:48,240 We have four-hour meetings, four-five-hour meetings. 2084 02:46:48,580 --> 02:46:51,200 He has to watch the entire meeting and do the minutes. 2085 02:46:51,660 --> 02:46:54,460 That's one of his most important responsibilities 2086 02:46:55,020 --> 02:46:58,400 that to me, he shouldn't delegate, he should do it. 2087 02:46:59,160 --> 02:47:01,520 So if he's tied up in the room doing that, 2088 02:47:02,080 --> 02:47:04,640 there's not enough staff to do the opus. 2089 02:47:04,980 --> 02:47:06,260 He needs more people. 2090 02:47:06,980 --> 02:47:10,220 And the only way for him to get more people is more money 2091 02:47:10,700 --> 02:47:12,600 so that we could hire those people. 2092 02:47:12,600 --> 02:47:18,780 Well, if we want a website that's robust and has all the information on that website 2093 02:47:18,780 --> 02:47:26,040 for the public to see that we need to dedicate someone to that and say that that's important 2094 02:47:26,040 --> 02:47:31,720 and we have to fund it and hire somebody if we think that that's very important, that's 2095 02:47:31,720 --> 02:47:32,480 what's occurring here. 2096 02:47:32,720 --> 02:47:37,740 We're talking about the parks, the grass isn't being cut, the number of complaints we're 2097 02:47:37,740 --> 02:47:38,260 receiving. 2098 02:47:39,220 --> 02:47:42,760 It's because we don't have enough people to cut the grass. 2099 02:47:44,040 --> 02:47:47,000 Those are the issues that we're facing. 2100 02:47:47,340 --> 02:47:49,700 Councilman Schwartz, do you have a motion to do that? 2101 02:47:49,700 --> 02:47:52,980 We always have the video available, so I think we're fine. 2102 02:47:53,140 --> 02:47:54,380 I think I'll survive. 2103 02:47:55,100 --> 02:47:57,760 We also know that if we get caught up on the minutes next week, 2104 02:47:58,060 --> 02:48:00,780 you can have 150 more opus followed by noon tomorrow. 2105 02:48:01,080 --> 02:48:02,560 So this over game's not going to go. 2106 02:48:02,840 --> 02:48:04,880 If you got an issue, you want to know what happened to me 2107 02:48:04,880 --> 02:48:07,400 and watch on the video because you're not going to get caught 2108 02:48:07,400 --> 02:48:11,200 up these minutes. There are forces that are working against you, so if you think you're 2109 02:48:11,200 --> 02:48:14,020 going to get, you can get 48 more hours in a day, they're just going to file more 2110 02:48:14,020 --> 02:48:20,160 opus. Okay, and about 99.99% of every opa that's filed is absolutely meaningless, 2111 02:48:20,400 --> 02:48:24,720 and no action has ever been taken in the six, in the six years, almost of the day 2112 02:48:24,720 --> 02:48:28,700 that I've been up here. I think about four times something was used to say, look what 2113 02:48:28,700 --> 02:48:34,020 I found. I found thousands of opaers in six years. So, you know, you're doing a great 2114 02:48:34,020 --> 02:48:38,180 It's a great job, and Mr. Manager, as it relates to the progress, the township 2115 02:48:38,920 --> 02:48:40,520 residents will want to see that zero. 2116 02:48:40,960 --> 02:48:44,900 We had some progress issues that were cut, they were behind because of the rain. 2117 02:48:45,280 --> 02:48:47,340 They're doing a great job, everyone's doing a great job. 2118 02:48:47,580 --> 02:48:51,820 I understand we can throw money at this problem and just hire out the wazoo, but I think 2119 02:48:51,820 --> 02:48:53,440 we're doing a great job. 2120 02:48:53,640 --> 02:48:55,360 But I just, let me just say one last thing. 2121 02:48:56,020 --> 02:48:58,480 Let me just extend the meeting to 1110, any questions? 2122 02:48:58,480 --> 02:49:00,280 I'll make a motion to extend the meeting to 1110. 2123 02:49:00,280 --> 02:49:12,320 So all of this does not obviate ESA's responsibility as the clerk to respond to the 2124 02:49:12,320 --> 02:49:18,960 opus. Even if we believe their frivolous, nothing's been done, he still has a 2125 02:49:18,960 --> 02:49:23,840 responsibility and he's falling short in that responsibility because he didn't 2126 02:49:23,840 --> 02:49:26,140 have the staff to do it. 2127 02:49:26,140 --> 02:49:27,600 He's in a race for it. 2128 02:49:27,600 --> 02:49:31,560 Don't you see, this is a trial, I will, I will stop responding to all of them. 2129 02:49:31,620 --> 02:49:34,240 You don't want to hear that, but I'm going to stop responding to all of them. 2130 02:49:34,240 --> 02:49:37,080 I have two of them in there said, I'll respond to all of them. 2131 02:49:37,080 --> 02:49:43,020 No, no, I agree with what you said, but he still has a legal responsibility. 2132 02:49:44,060 --> 02:49:48,440 We're not able to just say, let me, let me, let me have a moment. 2133 02:49:48,440 --> 02:50:01,160 I think that what can happen is Mr. Issa could create a template with the 2134 02:50:01,160 --> 02:50:06,900 components that we have in every meeting and as he's sitting there filling 2135 02:50:06,900 --> 02:50:11,780 the template in the meeting and be done at the end of the meeting without 2136 02:50:11,780 --> 02:50:13,380 having to go through all this nonsense. 2137 02:50:16,180 --> 02:50:20,060 I think there's a possibility of doing that if you get really creative. 2138 02:50:20,320 --> 02:50:26,300 When you fill in the template, we had ordnance number 2000, whatever it is, 2139 02:50:26,820 --> 02:50:29,060 5.4 or 5.3. 2140 02:50:29,820 --> 02:50:34,500 And move on, because we try to do too good a job, and it's impossible. 2141 02:50:35,000 --> 02:50:39,080 If you want to watch the meeting, somebody can give you a tape, you can go watch it. 2142 02:50:39,080 --> 02:50:45,680 But as far as the minutes are concerned, I think that there's a way to do it that doesn't overwhelm anybody. 2143 02:50:45,820 --> 02:50:51,540 If you sit there and fill in the answers to the question and move on to the next thing at the end of the meeting, you're done. 2144 02:50:51,920 --> 02:50:54,980 Or just call Doug. He'll jump into the seat and take care of business. 2145 02:50:55,240 --> 02:50:56,720 You should have seen what he did while you were out. 2146 02:50:56,900 --> 02:51:01,820 I mean, I don't know if we've been recording for the last three hours, but he did a great job improvising. 2147 02:51:02,320 --> 02:51:03,640 Council is so quick as to go with. 2148 02:51:03,640 --> 02:51:04,300 Yeah, very good. 2149 02:51:04,460 --> 02:51:11,380 Just so with with lawn mowing, we have in the budget, as the manager said, enough to fill 30 positions. 2150 02:51:11,680 --> 02:51:15,440 We have been able to fill them, but we do have the resources built into the budget. 2151 02:51:16,960 --> 02:51:19,880 Section 231, which covers the duties of the clerk. 2152 02:51:20,400 --> 02:51:25,380 A, the first item in there says that you have a responsibility to prepare minutes. 2153 02:51:26,000 --> 02:51:30,060 And these minutes are required to be prepared detailed written minutes and made them available 2154 02:51:30,060 --> 02:51:31,820 to the council within 10 business days. 2155 02:51:31,820 --> 02:51:39,220 Now, there is a catch-all penalty with, I think, it's $500 per day per incident. 2156 02:51:39,660 --> 02:51:41,360 I don't know that we use it too often. 2157 02:51:41,740 --> 02:51:44,240 So there is an obligation to produce those minutes. 2158 02:51:44,640 --> 02:51:48,860 And I think the one question I have, again, to the manager's issue is, I dig raise 2159 02:51:48,860 --> 02:51:49,300 that issue. 2160 02:51:49,420 --> 02:51:54,340 I said, Mr. Clerk, if this is the new normal, if you are getting the same number of open 2161 02:51:54,340 --> 02:51:58,920 requests and you're not catching up on those minutes, do you have the resources you need? 2162 02:51:58,920 --> 02:52:02,500 You do not have the resources you need to be able to do this. 2163 02:52:02,920 --> 02:52:07,020 And I think the question that I have at this point is, is, again, if you need that, 2164 02:52:07,640 --> 02:52:11,240 you know, this is the time to ask for it, because my concern is that we're going to keep 2165 02:52:11,240 --> 02:52:13,200 on falling further and further and further behind. 2166 02:52:13,620 --> 02:52:18,180 The only consolation is that meetings are front-loaded in the first half of the year. 2167 02:52:18,280 --> 02:52:22,020 There are a lot fewer, you have a, hopefully, a quiet summer, and then you have fewer 2168 02:52:22,020 --> 02:52:25,440 meetings in the second half of the year, but, you know, again, will you be able to catch 2169 02:52:25,440 --> 02:52:27,660 up? And that's my question, and that's my concern. 2170 02:52:27,660 --> 02:52:30,260 And I'm not doing this because this is a gotcha. 2171 02:52:30,360 --> 02:52:35,200 I just think this is something that we should have, that we should be able, every meeting that a new council 2172 02:52:35,200 --> 02:52:40,960 walks in and says, ah, the meeting, the minutes from the previous session are up there for review and 2173 02:52:40,960 --> 02:52:44,640 discussion. And you know, what happened? You know, and it's not a question. Wait a second. 2174 02:52:44,780 --> 02:52:48,840 Is that what happened in January? Did we do that? Did we discuss that? Did we miss something? 2175 02:52:48,940 --> 02:52:54,260 And I hope that we can catch up with this. And this is not a gotcha. This is what we should be doing. 2176 02:52:54,260 --> 02:52:57,780 And there's a reason for it, and I hope that we can resolve the session going forward. 2177 02:52:58,040 --> 02:52:59,580 And I thank you, and I thank you again. 2178 02:52:59,700 --> 02:53:03,820 I didn't know that there were progress on that, and I look forward to seeing this resolved. 2179 02:53:04,200 --> 02:53:04,800 For all call. 2180 02:53:05,660 --> 02:53:06,440 I need a motion to second. 2181 02:53:07,180 --> 02:53:07,580 Motion. 2182 02:53:08,560 --> 02:53:08,960 Second. 2183 02:53:10,340 --> 02:53:11,960 Dr. Prue, are you going to second the minutes? 2184 02:53:12,880 --> 02:53:13,280 Absolutely. 2185 02:53:13,580 --> 02:53:13,740 Yep. 2186 02:53:14,060 --> 02:53:14,280 We got. 2187 02:53:14,720 --> 02:53:15,000 Okay. 2188 02:53:15,620 --> 02:53:16,360 Councilwoman Ramirez. 2189 02:53:16,640 --> 02:53:16,780 Yes. 2190 02:53:17,700 --> 02:53:18,320 Councilman Schwartz. 2191 02:53:18,800 --> 02:53:19,000 Yes. 2192 02:53:20,020 --> 02:53:20,700 Councilman Salton. 2193 02:53:20,840 --> 02:53:21,020 No. 2194 02:53:21,920 --> 02:53:22,900 Definitely approve it. 2195 02:53:22,900 --> 02:53:24,640 Yeah, that may recount. 2196 02:53:24,940 --> 02:53:25,080 No. 2197 02:53:25,600 --> 02:53:26,180 Minute pass. 2198 02:53:26,660 --> 02:53:26,920 Okay. 2199 02:53:27,100 --> 02:53:30,280 Next, we have introduction of ordinances. 2200 02:53:32,840 --> 02:53:33,320 Yes. 2201 02:53:33,480 --> 02:53:36,900 These are all ordinances that the public might have seen before. 2202 02:53:37,320 --> 02:53:38,460 They were all passed. 2203 02:53:38,980 --> 02:53:42,900 But because of a technical glitch of some sort, 2204 02:53:43,460 --> 02:53:48,220 we have to reintroduce and just finalize the process as it goes to the planning board, 2205 02:53:48,380 --> 02:53:50,100 then as it goes to the county, then as it comes back to us. 2206 02:53:50,100 --> 02:54:20,080 So, so ordinance 14-2018 formerly and still ordinance 25-2017 and ordinance amending section 33-28 of Article 5 of chapter 33 of the code of the touch of a tineck, respecting driveway width within the RS residential single family attached district ordinance 15-2018, also known as ordinance 26-2017 and ordinance amending section 33-24 of Article 5 of chapter 33 of the code of the touch with tineck, respecting side yard paving within the 2207 02:54:20,080 --> 02:54:22,400 in the R.S. residential single-family tax district, 2208 02:54:22,940 --> 02:54:27,340 ordained 16-2018, also ordained 27-2017, 2209 02:54:27,900 --> 02:54:30,800 an ordinance amending section 33-24 of Article 5 2210 02:54:30,800 --> 02:54:33,140 of Chapter 33 of the Code of Tantra and Tena, 2211 02:54:33,140 --> 02:54:34,860 respecting accessory temporary tents 2212 02:54:34,860 --> 02:54:37,620 within the R.S. residential single-family tax district, 2213 02:54:38,080 --> 02:54:42,320 and ordained 17-2018, also known as ordained 33-2017, 2214 02:54:43,160 --> 02:54:46,780 an ordinance to amend the provisions of subsection C5E.6 2215 02:54:46,780 --> 02:54:51,400 of Section 33-18 of Article 3 of Chapter 33 of the Code attached to Petitek, 2216 02:54:51,700 --> 02:54:53,980 the leading of the uniformity requirement for business science. 2217 02:54:54,720 --> 02:54:58,840 Could I just get an explanation of this technical difficulties and what this, 2218 02:54:59,160 --> 02:55:03,560 and what is the status, I mean, were they passed or the effect of what is used to be? 2219 02:55:03,640 --> 02:55:10,000 Well, they were all passed, but in order to make sure that it's 100% bulletproof, 2220 02:55:10,360 --> 02:55:15,100 we want to make sure that it goes to the planning board and goes to the county and 2221 02:55:15,100 --> 02:55:19,200 And then comes back to us, and there was one or two of them that might not have had 2222 02:55:19,200 --> 02:55:20,640 that process completed. 2223 02:55:21,160 --> 02:55:26,640 So, therefore, we're putting them all forward again, introduce them and adopt them 2224 02:55:26,640 --> 02:55:26,860 on that. 2225 02:55:27,340 --> 02:55:33,980 So, for example, there, I've seen applications in front of the Board of Adjustment 2226 02:55:33,980 --> 02:55:40,060 that refer to some of these ordinances, or they are they in effect, they are live, 2227 02:55:40,200 --> 02:55:44,380 they are live, this is suspenders in the belt, they've passed, and they're valid, 2228 02:55:45,400 --> 02:55:49,440 It's like anything else, if they're live, they've been working under the premise 2229 02:55:49,440 --> 02:55:53,440 that they're live, but if they're challenged, like I said, you know, that's what's 2230 02:55:53,440 --> 02:55:54,580 why it makes something bulletproof. 2231 02:55:54,740 --> 02:55:58,220 They want to make sure that every single INT with dotted and crossed is spendered and 2232 02:55:58,220 --> 02:55:59,380 belted and whatever it is. 2233 02:55:59,900 --> 02:56:01,500 But that is the process here. 2234 02:56:03,710 --> 02:56:06,990 Mr. Attorney, you had that, that meets your arrest standard. 2235 02:56:10,580 --> 02:56:15,940 Sorry, the process has, that the Americans indicated had some flaws in it in terms of 2236 02:56:15,940 --> 02:56:19,320 the post passage by the Mayor's Council. 2237 02:56:19,820 --> 02:56:22,300 Nothing at the Mayor's Council did that was done improperly. 2238 02:56:22,660 --> 02:56:26,300 There was nothing that was done at this level that was done improperly. 2239 02:56:26,520 --> 02:56:31,300 It was when after any ordinances passed related to a zoning change, 2240 02:56:31,420 --> 02:56:36,620 it's supposed to go to the planning board and the county deputy mayor has indicated for approval. 2241 02:56:37,220 --> 02:56:40,980 And then come back after the re-first reading for adoption here. 2242 02:56:41,980 --> 02:56:44,120 This is built in suspenders is a good term. 2243 02:56:45,100 --> 02:56:57,340 It's more, it's almost like a ratification of sorts, if they're challenged, they're going to be challenged and will be, you know, the planning board will deal with that at the time that that happens. 2244 02:56:58,600 --> 02:57:03,580 You know, this is, this needs to be done for these ordinances to be enforceable in my opinion. 2245 02:57:03,580 --> 02:57:05,000 All right. 2246 02:57:05,140 --> 02:57:05,720 Rule call. 2247 02:57:06,560 --> 02:57:07,080 Motion. 2248 02:57:07,560 --> 02:57:08,080 Motion. 2249 02:57:08,080 --> 02:57:08,700 I'll make the motion. 2250 02:57:08,820 --> 02:57:08,980 All right. 2251 02:57:09,020 --> 02:57:09,400 Why cats? 2252 02:57:10,120 --> 02:57:11,480 Did it be Mayor Pruitt's second? 2253 02:57:13,480 --> 02:57:14,340 Councilman Arminaris? 2254 02:57:15,240 --> 02:57:15,520 Yes. 2255 02:57:16,220 --> 02:57:16,980 Councilman Schwartz? 2256 02:57:17,240 --> 02:57:17,400 Yes. 2257 02:57:18,240 --> 02:57:18,700 Councilman Sone? 2258 02:57:19,020 --> 02:57:19,220 Yes. 2259 02:57:20,280 --> 02:57:20,960 Deputy Mayor Pruitt? 2260 02:57:21,220 --> 02:57:21,380 Yes. 2261 02:57:21,800 --> 02:57:22,540 Deputy Mayor Katz? 2262 02:57:22,760 --> 02:57:22,960 Yes. 2263 02:57:23,740 --> 02:57:24,780 Orders are doing to introduce. 2264 02:57:25,080 --> 02:57:25,340 All right. 2265 02:57:25,440 --> 02:57:31,060 I just want to thank the TNIC police for being here and taking watching over us and thank Doug for coming. 2266 02:57:31,060 --> 02:57:33,900 I hope you're ever going to come back motion to adjourn