1 00:11:12,900 --> 00:11:15,260 Well, we only have one after it's necessary anyway. 2 00:11:27,450 --> 00:11:29,550 Everybody put those mics like this. 3 00:11:29,550 --> 00:11:30,490 Tell details. 4 00:11:34,190 --> 00:11:35,990 Okay, I will repeat myself. 5 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:39,960 Good evening, everybody. This is meeting of the 6 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:45,560 TNIC. It's only Board of Adjustment. It's June 4th, 26. We are in Council of Chambers. 7 00:11:46,380 --> 00:11:52,680 And we are also on Zoom. If you happen to be on Zoom, you cannot participate, but you can 8 00:11:52,680 --> 00:12:00,320 reserve, so let's begin with the Pledge of Allegiance and I will ask the Council for the 9 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:00,580 Years. 10 00:12:03,500 --> 00:12:15,600 Pledge of Allegiance and the Pledge of Allegiance and the Pledge of Allegiance and the 11 00:12:20,330 --> 00:12:23,850 There's uh, Tacitons, some, Ma'am, clerk. 12 00:12:26,090 --> 00:12:27,930 Uh, I'll probably probably do the first. 13 00:12:31,500 --> 00:12:36,740 At a quick notice of this meeting has been provided by adoption of the appropriate resolutions, 14 00:12:37,740 --> 00:12:44,420 listing the 2026 meeting dates by adoption of supplemental resolutions by emailing a copy of set 15 00:12:44,420 --> 00:12:47,280 resolutions to the record and the Jewish standard. 16 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:56,140 And by filing a copy with the township's clerk's office and by posting it on the municipal bulletin board and this statement is to be included in the minutes. 17 00:12:56,820 --> 00:12:58,460 So where, thank you, Mr. Marblestein. 18 00:13:00,020 --> 00:13:02,660 Now, I will ask Mr. Green, please call a roll. 19 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:03,440 Chair Rosen. 20 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:05,360 Vice Chair, Marblestein. 21 00:13:05,860 --> 00:13:06,780 Yeah. Mr. Brown. 22 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:09,020 Mr. Williams. 23 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:10,660 Here. Mr. Shake. 24 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:12,780 Mr. Cohen. 25 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:14,120 Good evening, here. 26 00:13:14,500 --> 00:13:15,420 Mr. Claskey. 27 00:13:16,100 --> 00:13:19,400 Mr. Gilles, Mr. Ramsey, 28 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:21,680 Mr. Cobb. 29 00:13:21,680 --> 00:13:22,500 Mr. Gilles. 30 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:25,020 Thank you. 31 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,980 I thank members of the board for being here tonight as a very light agenda. 32 00:13:31,300 --> 00:13:33,180 Sometimes people find the reason not to come. 33 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:34,620 So I'm glad you're here. 34 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,260 We have a very short agenda today, 35 00:13:39,300 --> 00:13:41,600 but we do have some managed to take care of. 36 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,060 First of all, there is the acceptance of the meeting. 37 00:13:45,060 --> 00:13:54,720 of the meetings of January 8th, 26, February 5th, 26, March 5th, 26 April, 16th, 26 and 38 00:13:54,720 --> 00:14:01,640 May 7th, 26. I would imagine what you've got members of the board. You've got a chance to read 39 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,760 them. Anybody have any changes or additions? 40 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,920 This topic gave me changes in a meet those. Oh, thank you. 41 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:16,240 All right, seeing none, all the favor of accepting those minutes. 42 00:14:16,620 --> 00:14:19,920 I will note that we are caught up. 43 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:21,560 So. 44 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:22,580 One more, one more, one more. 45 00:14:22,900 --> 00:14:24,220 But this is a very short one. 46 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:25,100 Okay. 47 00:14:25,180 --> 00:14:26,440 I absolutely work on walls. 48 00:14:26,700 --> 00:14:26,980 Yes. 49 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:27,760 Thank you. 50 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,700 We are impressed. 51 00:14:33,540 --> 00:14:36,440 We have to memorialize three resolutions. 52 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:49,380 First one, ZB-2025-38, Charlie Rochester's 650 palaces Avenue, second one is ZB-2026-05-2-Via, 53 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,540 backwreck, and a Rachel Beaman. 54 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:53,540 That's great. 55 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:59,820 And then third is ZB-2026-070, the Shiva High School girl. 56 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:07,960 The Chief of High School for Girls. So, I will ask that someone make a motion to accept those resolutions. 57 00:15:08,540 --> 00:15:09,760 I'll make that motion, Mr. Chairman. 58 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,180 So, order, Mr. Chairman, second. 59 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:14,260 All in favour? 60 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:15,240 Aye. 61 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:15,620 Aye. 62 00:15:15,620 --> 00:15:16,440 Thank you. 63 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:17,920 Mr. Chairman. 64 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:23,280 Yes. 65 00:15:25,870 --> 00:15:26,130 Okay. 66 00:15:27,350 --> 00:15:33,090 So, on the record, we'll note that those two gentlemen did not vote on that particular resolution. 67 00:15:33,090 --> 00:15:43,210 Thank you, and we have some old business that has to be continued, and that is 31 East 68 00:15:43,210 --> 00:15:52,510 Walnut LLC, ZB-2025-27, and I understand that the applications are not completing 69 00:15:52,510 --> 00:15:58,030 there for will be carried to July 9th and I can correct you in that. 70 00:15:58,030 --> 00:16:01,270 All right, so do we need a motion to carry that? 71 00:16:01,350 --> 00:16:03,470 Are we going to just order that? 72 00:16:03,710 --> 00:16:06,310 Oh, no, I'm like a motion to carry that on the favor. 73 00:16:06,390 --> 00:16:06,750 Hi. 74 00:16:07,490 --> 00:16:08,330 Thank you. 75 00:16:09,370 --> 00:16:14,610 And then we have an extension on the ZB2024-24. 76 00:16:15,790 --> 00:16:23,330 It's using Matthew and Maya Angler and the applicants architect has requested a one-year extension 77 00:16:23,330 --> 00:16:29,990 from the application which was granted July 10th, 25, anybody know the background on that, 78 00:16:30,430 --> 00:16:34,330 because someone is not ready to go for it, but at this time. 79 00:16:35,770 --> 00:16:43,290 Okay, I think that an extension is an order or unfair for that. 80 00:16:43,530 --> 00:16:43,630 Hi. 81 00:16:44,610 --> 00:16:45,930 So thank you. 82 00:16:46,470 --> 00:16:54,020 So that leaves us with the only application that's before us at tonight. 83 00:16:54,020 --> 00:17:05,920 And that is for a sign, that is DB2026-1019, IN Laser Center, are that applicant here, please come up to the mic, 84 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:13,660 and who is the applicant, and you are architect sir. 85 00:17:13,780 --> 00:17:14,860 I'm a sign of the company. 86 00:17:15,140 --> 00:17:15,420 You know what? 87 00:17:15,580 --> 00:17:16,520 I'm a majestic sign. 88 00:17:16,620 --> 00:17:17,380 Sign because it's okay. 89 00:17:17,420 --> 00:17:19,340 So let's get you both sworn in. 90 00:17:19,340 --> 00:17:22,500 I think if you don't want to fold raise your hand, 91 00:17:22,820 --> 00:17:26,280 you solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony will offer 92 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:27,540 this evening is the truth. 93 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,320 The whole truth is nothing but the truth. 94 00:17:29,620 --> 00:17:29,920 I do. 95 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,920 And first, so that I know who everyone is. 96 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:38,360 I state your name and then spell your last and just be really clear 97 00:17:38,360 --> 00:17:40,820 because we take everything down and we don't want to miss it. 98 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,100 My legal name is Lawrence. 99 00:17:43,820 --> 00:17:44,320 With the W. 100 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:55,740 Nigerian, Columbia Larry. The last name is N. Lake and Nancy. A. J. A. R. I. A. N. 101 00:17:55,980 --> 00:18:05,200 All right. And Mr. Nigerian, what is your relationship to CCG 3639 LLC on the developer and owner? 102 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,980 Okay. And your name, sir. Robert Hamburg and spell your last. 103 00:18:14,980 --> 00:18:17,320 H-A-M-B-U-R-G. 104 00:18:18,020 --> 00:18:20,980 And Robert, you are affiliated with Majestic Science? 105 00:18:20,980 --> 00:18:21,420 Correct. 106 00:18:23,060 --> 00:18:24,960 OK, so you're the sign dying? 107 00:18:27,570 --> 00:18:27,930 OK. 108 00:18:28,610 --> 00:18:29,330 Thank you. 109 00:18:29,830 --> 00:18:32,330 So Mr. Najarian tells about your sign. 110 00:18:32,870 --> 00:18:34,770 And what you want to do, do you have 111 00:18:34,770 --> 00:18:36,450 like a good advocate? 112 00:18:36,750 --> 00:18:39,570 You have the photos of the building. 113 00:18:40,270 --> 00:18:42,010 When we look at the sign, it's nice to see it 114 00:18:42,010 --> 00:18:43,510 in the context of the project. 115 00:18:44,170 --> 00:18:45,830 If you don't mind, I can give these to you. 116 00:18:45,910 --> 00:18:46,130 Sure. 117 00:18:46,130 --> 00:18:56,470 would be great. So we have Mr. Hamburg's sign drawing. We're going to call that A1 and it 118 00:18:56,470 --> 00:19:02,070 looks like Mr. Nigerian just handed up some other dots. We'll take a look at these and 119 00:19:02,070 --> 00:19:09,830 call them A2. This is the building that was almost, I'm going to say, taking down, but maybe 120 00:19:09,830 --> 00:19:14,070 not really taking down, but Dr. Bobarium's all building. 121 00:19:20,030 --> 00:19:22,290 So would you call that one A2? 122 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,480 Tell us about the sign and what you want to do. 123 00:19:29,940 --> 00:19:31,720 If I'm going to interrupt just one second before, 124 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,580 I'd like to also show you something else. 125 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:39,220 The existing file you have that shows the proposed and the existing sign. 126 00:19:39,540 --> 00:19:41,800 It shows a very miniscule image of it. 127 00:19:42,460 --> 00:19:45,540 And I'd like to make enough copies for all of you. 128 00:19:45,540 --> 00:19:47,440 I didn't think the cup is at the bow of it. 129 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:51,740 It is going to look like so you can see the aesthetics of the sign and the beauty of the sign. 130 00:19:52,100 --> 00:19:56,660 Much more clearly than you can on the building department files that we proposed. 131 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,620 So we're going to call this one a three. 132 00:20:01,120 --> 00:20:02,640 And you said something. 133 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:04,000 Good. 134 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,620 Can I have to do some sharing? 135 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:07,080 Yes. 136 00:20:07,360 --> 00:20:08,440 I did make enough. 137 00:20:09,820 --> 00:20:14,700 I'm going to, I'll just pass one of the, I can pass a couple down and we can work with it. 138 00:20:14,700 --> 00:20:18,980 Okay. So A3, what do we want to call that, Mr. Hammer? 139 00:20:20,900 --> 00:20:25,600 I guess in the large minutes of how the sign is going to be looked at here. 140 00:20:26,300 --> 00:20:28,700 Okay, so we're going to call that a sign enlargement. 141 00:20:29,820 --> 00:20:33,660 Before you go much further, there's an existing sign now, right? 142 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:34,240 Yes. 143 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,580 How big is the existing sign compared to this? 144 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:39,520 It's a little bit smaller. 145 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:41,100 I don't have a script. 146 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:49,340 If you can see it's proportioned on this plan, so it is a bit smaller than what the 147 00:20:49,340 --> 00:20:51,140 the cosine is. 148 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:53,940 And you can see what type of sine looks like. 149 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:55,360 What type of sine it is. 150 00:20:55,680 --> 00:21:00,880 Adam does this permit monument signs or monument signs, not like what's he here for? 151 00:21:02,340 --> 00:21:09,800 They are not zone regulated or regulated by where you can put like the rule is weird. 152 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,780 So, generally, my human science are there for buildings 153 00:21:12,780 --> 00:21:14,260 that are not visible from the street, 154 00:21:14,780 --> 00:21:16,040 which is almost nowhere in TNIC. 155 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:17,200 So, it's a weird room. 156 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:18,120 Okay. 157 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,300 If you can see the building from the street, 158 00:21:20,380 --> 00:21:21,820 you'll be able to see a sign and vice versa. 159 00:21:22,380 --> 00:21:25,220 Even places like the L.I.s own, like Alfred Avenue, 160 00:21:25,860 --> 00:21:28,040 you would see the building if you were to see the sign. 161 00:21:28,820 --> 00:21:29,920 So, the regulation is strange 162 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,860 and it affects almost every ground sign. 163 00:21:32,660 --> 00:21:36,300 This is also almost a exact replacement. 164 00:21:36,380 --> 00:21:37,780 It's going the same spot. 165 00:21:37,780 --> 00:21:41,760 It's square footages different, but the other sign is elevated. 166 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,200 So like when you look at it, 167 00:21:44,300 --> 00:21:45,820 spatially on the hole for a yard, 168 00:21:46,300 --> 00:21:49,860 it kind of, it is kind of going pretty much where the old sign was. 169 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,780 Except it's going to have a nicer masonry base rather than being on two boats. 170 00:21:55,140 --> 00:21:55,160 Okay. 171 00:21:55,820 --> 00:21:58,120 So same place, same look. 172 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:00,700 And although it's a little bigger, 173 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,420 it's on a masonry base instead of the post. 174 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:10,420 Is there anything else about this sign that it's not in compliance set back? 175 00:22:11,140 --> 00:22:14,160 That back what about colors colors are fine 176 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:22,160 What what should the set back be and what is the set back is five and a half roughly it needs to be 20 177 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,960 But it's that's existing. Yes, 178 00:22:28,100 --> 00:22:29,760 is the sign gonna be lit? 179 00:22:30,430 --> 00:22:35,090 It will be ground lit. Ground lit, not back lit. Not internally that no. 180 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,590 And it is being installed exactly where the existing sign is. 181 00:22:42,540 --> 00:22:48,200 And what we see, that's merit, that's both sides look exactly the same. 182 00:22:48,860 --> 00:22:49,980 Yes, identical. 183 00:22:51,380 --> 00:22:51,960 Okay. Yes. 184 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:59,760 And are there any four tenants to be in this building or you're on your public building? 185 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,500 That's a good question. 186 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,260 So we will have the score floors. 187 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,340 Ideally we'll have four tenants. 188 00:23:06,660 --> 00:23:10,200 I take one floor and hopefully we'll have three other tenants. 189 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,080 But with the marketing leaders we don't know. 190 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,080 So hopefully we'll have four but we could have a few more tenants as well. 191 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,380 We might be able to divide half the floor. 192 00:23:21,780 --> 00:23:29,100 And we'll each have their business for their practice. 193 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:36,840 It's possible to be the same font in the same size, but it will be the same or there will be a unique unique for that to get the best. 194 00:23:37,100 --> 00:23:41,280 Yeah, it's a good question. Ideally, each one would get one line. 195 00:23:42,380 --> 00:23:48,420 But again, we may have to, because we can't put a billboard up, unfortunately we can't put a billboard up. 196 00:23:49,100 --> 00:23:53,100 We may have to split each line to accommodate two tenants per four. 197 00:23:54,700 --> 00:24:06,600 I guess my question is more of in terms of pictures or a trademark or something about the business 198 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:07,760 sold I think. 199 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:12,960 If I could answer that, the text of the tenants will be the exact same text, all three 200 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,120 of them might be the same text. 201 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,500 And it's just usually going to say the name is not going to, it is not much room to say much 202 00:24:17,500 --> 00:24:20,960 more than the name of the tenant, so that's what's planned to be there. 203 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:28,800 So it'll be uniformed tax, no logos, and the tenant, 204 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,260 it's say you wound up with five tenants or six tenants. 205 00:24:34,500 --> 00:24:37,280 You may have to put two in one strip. 206 00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:40,360 In one strip, but there would be no matter what, 207 00:24:40,460 --> 00:24:41,940 there would be only four strip. 208 00:24:43,780 --> 00:24:46,120 And your business, the TNIC, I believe, 209 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,880 since it will have up billing and will be 210 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:49,900 exactly as illustrated. 211 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:51,240 Yes. 212 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:52,100 Okay. 213 00:24:52,180 --> 00:24:52,820 It will be. 214 00:24:54,860 --> 00:24:55,240 Okay. 215 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:56,420 I don't have any other questions. 216 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,160 I remember the board of any questions. 217 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:00,940 Anything else you'd like to say about this? 218 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:01,280 Yeah. 219 00:25:01,460 --> 00:25:03,260 First, thank you for your volunteer time. 220 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:04,580 It's a thank-less job. 221 00:25:05,020 --> 00:25:06,500 To thank you for your past support. 222 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,660 The building has been very special to me. 223 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,780 I've looked at a lot of medical space and teenagers. 224 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:17,100 A lot of buildings, including the building that we had taken the top two floors off. 225 00:25:17,340 --> 00:25:18,720 We're in major disrepair. 226 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:24,260 So, this is going to be, it's a tremendous personal investment of time and money. 227 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,220 It's something that I do with love. 228 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,860 I've come to T-necks and so I was a child going to the Bishroff Ice Cream Poller. 229 00:25:30,340 --> 00:25:34,820 And my troop was based here in T-necks when we went to the U.S. 230 00:25:34,820 --> 00:25:35,600 Scouting, Jambore. 231 00:25:36,140 --> 00:25:37,680 So, there's a lot of relationships in T-necks. 232 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,100 I feel very comfortable with this considerable investment. 233 00:25:41,020 --> 00:25:44,740 This sign, we're looking to really compliment the building. 234 00:25:45,300 --> 00:25:50,180 You know what, Yokees have very set about snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory? 235 00:25:51,860 --> 00:25:53,320 Do you, would you like a vote? 236 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:53,860 Yes. 237 00:25:55,020 --> 00:25:56,660 What do you want to talk more about visual? 238 00:25:58,100 --> 00:25:58,920 I would say a vote. 239 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:00,260 I appreciate you as well. 240 00:26:01,740 --> 00:26:01,860 Okay. 241 00:26:03,700 --> 00:26:06,780 Mr. Chairman, we didn't open to the public, but so the record is clear. 242 00:26:06,900 --> 00:26:08,220 There is no public here. 243 00:26:08,740 --> 00:26:11,440 So I guess Mr. Jerry has completed a statement in the director. 244 00:26:12,820 --> 00:26:13,200 Okay. 245 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:21,380 Okay, we will proceed to the second session and you want to wish to make a comment or a 246 00:26:21,380 --> 00:26:22,420 motion on this application. 247 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:28,400 If nobody has any comments or any discussion, I'd like to make a motion to accept this 248 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,420 application as presented. 249 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,020 I should do a proof by Mr. Ramjatin as a second. 250 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,380 I'll second that. 251 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:35,920 Thank you, Mr. Tom. 252 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:36,800 Please. 253 00:26:37,180 --> 00:26:37,800 Hold roll. 254 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:39,940 Here. 255 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:41,140 Yes. 256 00:26:41,380 --> 00:26:41,860 Chair Rosen. 257 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:58,420 Nice to hear from you, Mr. Brown, Mr. Williams, Mr. Cohen, Mr. Klaski, Mr. Elias, Mr. Ramsat, Mr. Comb, Mr. Leon. 258 00:27:00,580 --> 00:27:00,960 Good luck. 259 00:27:01,780 --> 00:27:01,900 Thank you. 260 00:27:01,900 --> 00:27:02,200 Thank you. 261 00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:03,960 I appreciate your help. 262 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,480 I believe that concludes the business for tonight. 263 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,840 As much as we'd like to stay a couple more hours. 264 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:20,540 Should we open this for the right good morning we can open this. Thank you for reminding me that and also by the way those of you who are on the bylaws 265 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:23,280 subcommittee 266 00:27:23,980 --> 00:27:24,420 I 267 00:27:25,180 --> 00:27:29,340 Have not been able to find a time on my count that we'll commit, but I will send out as soon 268 00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:36,180 In that zoom a bit a doodle poll soon. I hope we wouldn't get a meeting in June or early July 269 00:27:37,980 --> 00:27:46,180 So that does conclude, this is the board, thank you all for coming out tonight, and we'll see you all on July 9th. 270 00:27:56,410 --> 00:27:58,190 Are you rooting for the next?