1 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:14,960 Morning everyone. Bright and early. I'd like to call the special meeting for the 2 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:25,039 city council of Temple City to order on August 26, 2026 at 7 a.m. 3 00:00:21,039 --> 00:00:26,800 May we have a roll call, please? >> Council member Chavez 4 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,920 » here. >> Council member Sternquist 5 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:34,480 » here. Council member Yu >> here. 6 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:42,800 » Mayor Proench Chen is absent. Mayor man >> here. 7 00:00:36,480 --> 00:00:45,040 » Move to excuse Mayor Prom Chen for cost. >> We have a second. 8 00:00:44,239 --> 00:00:48,960 » Second. >> Okay. All right. If there are no 9 00:00:46,559 --> 00:00:54,320 objections, Mayor Promchen is excused. Next, we move to public comments. 10 00:00:51,760 --> 00:01:01,239 Anyone who wishes to address the council at this time? Yes, Mr. Jambasian. Good 11 00:00:58,239 --> 00:01:01,239 morning. 12 00:01:02,225 --> 00:01:04,245 [snorts] 13 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:16,479 » Morning, Jerry Jambasian. Good morning, mayor, council members, and staff and 14 00:01:13,119 --> 00:01:25,600 deputies. When I was here probably four weeks ago, I did mention the uh radar 15 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:32,360 indicator on uh Longden near Longd. And I'm wondering is there any update on 16 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:32,360 it when it's going to be operational? 17 00:01:32,479 --> 00:01:40,240 Okay. I know you can't give answers but after 18 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:43,520 a month it seems like something should happen. 19 00:01:41,439 --> 00:01:47,200 » Fair. We we will we will ask during the meeting. Thank you for Thank you. 20 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:49,040 » There's a radar in there's a radar thing. 21 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,680 » There's two two of them. >> It's like a speed. You're talking about 22 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,159 the speed. >> Yeah. East and west there. 23 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,360 » How fast you're going, right? >> Exactly. 24 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,719 » Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. And with school starting, it kind 25 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:04,079 of be a help. >> Thank you, Jerry. Does anyone else wish 26 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:10,200 to address council at this time? >> Okay. Uh, madame city clerk, are there 27 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,200 any virtual speakers? 28 00:02:10,879 --> 00:02:15,680 » There are none, mayor. >> Okay. Thank you. With that, we will 29 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:20,720 close public comment and we will go right into item four, communications. 30 00:02:18,959 --> 00:02:23,920 So, Mr. City Manager, do you want to say 31 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,800 anything before we start or should I turn it right over to 32 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:30,080 » Thank you, Mayor Man. If you could turn it right over to Deputy Schwarz, then we 33 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:33,599 can we can begin our normal presentation. Thank you, sir. 34 00:02:31,599 --> 00:02:39,440 » Morning, Deputy Schwarz. Floor is yours. >> Good morning, everyone. Uh, today we're 35 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:44,800 going to be going over um for July. Um, I think there was kind of a mishap with 36 00:02:42,640 --> 00:02:49,440 changing everything uh going back and forth. So, I do apologize. Um, I don't 37 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:53,640 know where the August came from, but we're going to be going over July. 38 00:02:53,680 --> 00:03:00,800 Um, of course, uh, we have the volunteers on patrol. If you do want to 39 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:05,200 volunteer, um, all the information is right there. You can reach out to Deputy 40 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:09,040 Johnson if you want to volunteer, uh, to do control checks. Um, still it's the 41 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:14,319 same, the quality of life. Um, always checking up on the register, the police 42 00:03:11,920 --> 00:03:20,159 and the probationers in the city along with talking to the progentation 43 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:26,640 officers. Um, the crime trends are still uh getting the burglaries um the the 44 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:32,080 petty testies uh and we're just doing um constant patrol checks burglary 45 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:36,720 operations throughout the city. Um right here for a notable arrest 46 00:03:34,959 --> 00:03:40,239 deputies uh deputies doing a patrol check notice 47 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:45,440 person laying on the ground upon contacting him they recovered a 48 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:48,879 controlled substance. Can you hear me? >> Yeah. 49 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:54,560 » Okay. Sorry. um department resources showed that um uh the person um had 50 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:57,519 prior convictions of being in possession of a controlled substance and this is 51 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:01,200 one of the new laws that passed the 11395B1. 52 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:05,319 So he was arrested for a felony. Other than that it would would have been a 53 00:04:02,319 --> 00:04:05,319 misdemeanor. 54 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:11,920 Um also uh this one I know you guys might have heard deputies responded to 55 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:15,599 an assault with a deadly weapon call where there was a gun pointed at the 56 00:04:13,439 --> 00:04:21,440 victims using department resources. All suspects uh were arrested uh that night 57 00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:27,160 and later that day. Um just using uh interview and department resources that 58 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,160 throughout the city. 59 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:35,199 Um right here, this one is a good notable arrest. A deputy doing a patrol 60 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:39,840 check was flagged down that the victim had just had jewelry uh stolen from her 61 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:44,639 person. During the investigation, the deputy was able to get a license plate. 62 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:48,639 Right. Uh earlier in that day, these suspects had committed a robbery inside 63 00:04:46,639 --> 00:04:53,520 Roseme. So they were able to tie them together. Later that evening, both 64 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:59,360 suspects were arrested. These suspects were also related to two prior uh 65 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:03,440 robberies in the city and they were also uh wanted in Lakewood for also uh 66 00:05:01,280 --> 00:05:11,720 committing a robbery. So uh with that arrest uh was able to close a lot of 67 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:11,720 cases and um uh arrest them. 68 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:22,720 But are they just part of a figure gang or two individual? 69 00:05:17,840 --> 00:05:26,320 » Uh two two individuals. Yes. Mhm. >> Uh so right here we're going to be going 70 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:28,880 down uh the the crime stats. >> Deputy Schwarz, just sorry to interrupt. 71 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:33,120 Yes. >> In your previous slide at the bottom 72 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:36,720 when you said there's a notation that says the suspects were arrested for the 73 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:41,199 following. Could you help us understand what those 74 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:44,720 » Yes, sir. Uh the 211 PC is robbery. Oh, >> um and then they were also arrested for 75 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:49,199 grand theft. >> That's 487A. 76 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:53,840 » Yes, sir. 211 is robbery and the 487 APC is grand theft. Thank you. 77 00:05:50,560 --> 00:06:00,320 » Um and then prior to that, uh they were um suspects for committing a grand theft 78 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:04,479 earlier and a robbery also in the city. >> Just as one quick reminder too for the 79 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:09,600 council, the team actually looks at every single report that comes in. So, 80 00:06:07,840 --> 00:06:14,160 not only are the crime analysts doing activity, but Deputy Buoie, Deputy 81 00:06:11,840 --> 00:06:17,680 Felix, and Deputy Schwarz are looking at all the crimes in the city and then 82 00:06:15,759 --> 00:06:20,479 reporting to and it dictates some of their 83 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:24,560 operations, but also too, they're pushing that up the chain as well. So, 84 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:27,120 they have a good handle on what is happening in the community and I 85 00:06:25,919 --> 00:06:31,840 appreciate all their work. So, that's why you can hear from anyone, Deputy 86 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:35,600 Felix, Deputy Buoie, Deputy Schwarz, they have this very intimate knowledge 87 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:39,840 of each of these crimes every single time. 88 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:45,600 Thank you, sir. Uh so now we're going to be going down the um uh the stats from 89 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:50,160 uh January to July as well. Uh so for the month of July, zero homicides, um 90 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:54,000 zero rapes. Uh the one robbery was actually at a business where the victim 91 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:57,840 confronted the suspects and that's how the elements were were meant for a 92 00:06:55,680 --> 00:07:01,039 robbery. So it just wasn't a person uh out and about. Uh the victim actually 93 00:06:59,919 --> 00:07:05,840 approached these people and they were stealing copper wire. Um the assault 94 00:07:03,759 --> 00:07:10,160 it's actually not five, it should be three. Sorry, is it not on the screen? 95 00:07:07,759 --> 00:07:15,280 It should be three. Um out of the three, two are arrested. Uh the other one is a 96 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:19,759 uh named suspect and hopefully by uh next meeting uh that person will be will 97 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:25,199 be arrested. Um the residential burglary should be uh 98 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:29,599 at 10. Um one of them wasn't attempted. Uh and there is some uh information that 99 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:33,759 is ongoing with the detectives and hopefully we'll have an answer for you 100 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:38,720 uh next meeting regarding some arrests. Um vehicle burglaries were at zero. The 101 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:42,479 one grand theft uh is what we just talked about for the notable arrest 102 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:47,680 where that person had jewelry taken from them and they were arrested behind that. 103 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:54,080 Um the petty thefts uh one was a late reported from an unlocked vehicle 104 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:59,280 and uh the other one I believe is from a business. Um I know the Grand Theft 105 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:03,520 Autos uh it was up to four but out of the four three of them were unlocked and 106 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:07,919 one of them actually had their keys inside. So this is one of the things 107 00:08:05,759 --> 00:08:12,000 that we talk about in the area uh watch meeting of trying not to be a victim of 108 00:08:09,759 --> 00:08:18,240 a crime. preventing don't don't leave purses visible inside your car. Um lock 109 00:08:15,919 --> 00:08:21,879 your car. So out of the four uh the three were unlocked. 110 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:30,240 Uh and this just breaks down um all the stats again from year to date. So from 111 00:08:28,319 --> 00:08:36,320 year to date from last year we're at 100 burglaries. Uh currently right now uh we 112 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:40,240 are at uh 61. And sorry I did skip through one the one commercial burglary. 113 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:45,279 Sorry about that. The person we did arrest um commercial burglary uh was a 114 00:08:42,959 --> 00:08:49,839 sight out but using department resources we noticed that this individual had uh 115 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:56,160 prior convictions for theft. So we did arrest for that new law the 66.1 PC. So 116 00:08:53,519 --> 00:09:00,080 that person was held. Um but just to let you know I thought it was a felony. Um 117 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:03,519 they actually charged that individual as a misdemeanor. So I know talking to a 118 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:07,680 few people we all just thought it was a straight felony but it could be charged 119 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:11,279 as a misdemeanor. And if I can add one thing, one thing on the civilian side 120 00:09:09,680 --> 00:09:15,279 that we've done that you've done as well is that you've really we've really 121 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:22,800 strengthened the behavioral issues related to uh use of public spaces and 122 00:09:18,959 --> 00:09:27,600 and um activity and behavior in the public right away. So, I know the team 123 00:09:25,279 --> 00:09:31,920 does a really good job of coupling those two together using what the new laws 124 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:36,480 allow them from a criminal justice standpoint, but also to our laws that we 125 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:41,600 have that you passed almost a year and a half ago now. They are a they're a 126 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:46,399 little bit more quant qualitative rather than quantitative in their in what you 127 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:51,120 see in the numbers, but they are having effect. And I know talking to the team 128 00:09:48,959 --> 00:09:55,519 and u getting the captain acquainted as well and captain May said that that was 129 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:58,959 something that he felt was really important and it's working. So I want to 130 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:02,640 thank the council for that. I know it can be a little more stringent for some 131 00:10:00,399 --> 00:10:07,680 folks in in some communities feel a little bit more um 132 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:13,240 maybe not at ease with those types of those types of ordinances. But it it is 133 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,240 helping 134 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:24,800 Uh so this just breaks down exactly what we just went over um year-to- date from 135 00:10:21,839 --> 00:10:29,360 2023. Um all the stats that uh we just went over. 136 00:10:27,519 --> 00:10:36,320 Um so these are our response times uh for the month of July. The routine was 137 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:41,120 uh 49.3 uh minutes uh priority uh 12 and emergent call uh was three. Um the total 138 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:45,680 arrest for felony was six. uh misdemeanor was 40 for a total of 46 139 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:50,000 arrests and one of them was the prox P prop 36 arrest which was that um prior 140 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:53,240 conviction with a controlled substance the 11395B1. 141 00:10:54,800 --> 00:11:00,880 Uh the traffic issues um are still especially with school picking up right 142 00:10:58,399 --> 00:11:05,279 now the speeding uh failure to stop at uh red lights and the ebikes. I know 143 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:09,200 Deputy Felix and Deputy Buouie this past week uh were at Temple City High School 144 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:12,200 uh regarding ebikes and talking to everyone. 145 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:17,600 » Could you explain what high visibility patrols are? 146 00:11:15,839 --> 00:11:21,839 » Yeah, so that's just us uh driving around doing patrol checks in the cities 147 00:11:19,519 --> 00:11:25,760 just how Mr. Cook said, we know by reading the reports, we kind of know the 148 00:11:23,680 --> 00:11:29,360 certain areas in the city that we're getting complaints regarding speeding. 149 00:11:27,680 --> 00:11:32,399 If there's a certain crime trend going on, that's where we'll start doing 150 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:37,560 patrol checks in that certain area. just for high visibility to try to deter it. 151 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:48,480 Um these are the um the traffic stats um from January to July and then also uh 152 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:53,440 July. Uh we had two traffic crashes uh that unfortunately had an injury. 11 153 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:59,760 were property damage uh for a total of 13. Uh for traffic citations, 101 154 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:03,440 hazardous citations were giving out um and six non-hazardous. The difference 155 00:12:01,519 --> 00:12:08,000 between hazardous and non-hazardous is running a stop sign, running a red light 156 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:11,440 is a hazardous citation. Somebody having uh expired registration, a brake light 157 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:17,519 out, uh that is considered a nonhazardous citation uh for a total of 158 00:12:14,560 --> 00:12:23,040 107. And two, in this situation, I want to thank our not only our we we do our 159 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:28,399 motors, but I appreciate our our team and our traffic deputies who are out who 160 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:34,320 are really trying their best uh their best to um enforce but also be a 161 00:12:32,399 --> 00:12:38,160 presence out in the community, too. So, we've seen that especially in the last 162 00:12:36,560 --> 00:12:44,600 last I would say about the last three months. Um and and you can see it in 163 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,600 some of the statistics as well. 164 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:52,959 Um right here for the special assignment uh the activities uh the city meetings 165 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:57,920 uh the transportation and public safety commission meetings um a few weeks uh 166 00:12:55,360 --> 00:13:02,160 every night um traffic enforcement detail uh meetings with the captain if 167 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:05,760 we have any uh trends and we're also currently doing burglary suppression 168 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:10,079 operations throughout the city and just how Mr. Cook said, uh, always doing 169 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:14,079 follow-up on active cases, uh, assisting with DB and what we can do, um, to try 170 00:13:12,639 --> 00:13:18,639 to solve some of these reports and cases. 171 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:24,639 Uh, September events, uh, that we have coming up is the high autumn festival. 172 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:29,040 Um, and then just, uh, contacting some uh, regarding residential burglaries 173 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:32,720 with some other uh, agencies. And that's where I said hopefully next month we can 174 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:36,000 uh talk to you a little bit more about um some arrests where we're talking to 175 00:13:34,399 --> 00:13:40,279 some local agencies and even some agencies that aren't so close. 176 00:13:40,560 --> 00:13:47,600 Um public outreach um uh constantly uh going to businesses for a letter of 177 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:53,680 agencies uh doing the neighborhood watch meeting which we just had um a week ago. 178 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:59,600 And uh doing the ebike and burglary uh suppression. I know ebikes right now 179 00:13:55,040 --> 00:14:03,440 with school starting uh is a big issue. And that'll conclude uh for the month of 180 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:08,800 July. So, >> and with that, Council uh Mayor Man, um 181 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:13,600 uh I know we're moving a little fast today, but I'd like uh only two and a 182 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:18,399 half weeks on the job. Sir, I'd like to I think several of you met uh Captain 183 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:23,320 Sheriff Morsey, who is the new captain of the Temple Station. I'll allow him to 184 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,320 introduce himself. 185 00:14:23,839 --> 00:14:29,600 » Good morning. First of all, I apologize for uh for my late arrival. Uh pleasure 186 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:33,760 to be here. I'm glad to be back at Temple Station. Um as you know, I I was 187 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:38,240 previously assigned here approximately 10 years ago. Um very happy to be back. 188 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:42,320 I have a great team here at at the station. You have a great team at the 189 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:45,920 Temple City in particular, our SEO team are doing a phenomenal job. And I thank 190 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:50,760 you for the opportunity to be here. >> Okay. Well, welcome Kathy. 191 00:14:50,959 --> 00:14:57,120 And yeah, we we look forward to having you being part of the Temple City 192 00:14:55,600 --> 00:15:02,639 community. I know you're familiar with it and you're absolutely right. We have 193 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:07,199 a phenomenal team here and the proof is in the not just the numbers but in the 194 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:10,160 way that they interact with our community, not just at neighborhood 195 00:15:08,639 --> 00:15:14,720 watch meetings, but at so many different events. So, um, just like Brian said 196 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:19,440 earlier, their intimate knowledge of our crimes helps us better understand what 197 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:24,480 we as a council need to do to help and support our partners in law enforcement, 198 00:15:22,079 --> 00:15:28,320 especially our amazing Temple Station team. So, thank you for being here with 199 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:33,920 us. >> Um, so we and thank you, Deputy Schwarz, 200 00:15:31,279 --> 00:15:38,399 for the presentation. Um, I do want to allow council for any questions or 201 00:15:36,399 --> 00:15:43,760 comments. Um, council member Sturquist, >> I don't have any questions. Just thanks 202 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:46,399 again for the work that you all do. >> No questions. 203 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:51,040 » No. >> No further questions the mayor, but I 204 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:57,120 would really want to welcome the captain uh back to Temple Temple City and Temple 205 00:15:54,480 --> 00:16:04,079 Station and uh and like the mayor said, we have a phenomenal team. You know how 206 00:15:59,279 --> 00:16:08,959 the city works and um and um and I think you also understand the sentiment of our 207 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:15,199 residents that their expectations. So looking forward to working with you. 208 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:20,560 » So I I do have a couple questions just uh one to try to follow up on Mr. 209 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:26,320 Jambasian's question. The the Longden the speeding limit sign that's on 210 00:16:23,759 --> 00:16:30,560 Longden is that's under the purview of the city, right? We we maintain that. 211 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:34,800 » It is Mayor Man. And I'm sorry for the delay on that. We've been we've been 212 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:39,279 replacing several of the batteries for a lot of those locations throughout. I 213 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:43,279 will double check on that one. Um that that may have I I will double check on 214 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,199 where we are with that. I apologize. >> Okay. 215 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,680 » So I I will report back to the council and I'll I'll get back to the community 216 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:52,000 as well. >> Yeah. If if you can at least report back 217 00:16:49,839 --> 00:16:54,720 at our next regular council meeting, perhaps in your city manager's report on 218 00:16:53,839 --> 00:16:58,399 an ETA on that. >> Good idea, sir. We'll do. 219 00:16:55,839 --> 00:17:04,240 » Okay. Thank you. Um and then another thing to follow up on, I know during our 220 00:17:00,639 --> 00:17:10,319 last meeting we had some students from Temple City High School 221 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:16,400 bring some ideas to us in in terms of how that's being rolled out or or if 222 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:22,160 it's being rolled out. Is there anything that you can update us on? 223 00:17:19,679 --> 00:17:27,439 » Sure. Um especially on the ebike front, we're trying um we've been working very 224 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:30,400 aggressively and I know Deputy Felix was was it this Saturday or last Saturday? 225 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:35,440 » Saturday. myself and Deputy Buy >> and Deputy Buouie. Uh Saturday, we're 226 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:39,679 actually out in at the school doing an active level of education. I know that 227 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:45,360 um the Temple City Unified School District has asked us to do what we can. 228 00:17:42,799 --> 00:17:49,360 Um we're trying to balance between educating and enforcement. [laughter] I 229 00:17:47,679 --> 00:17:53,600 think that's that's that's really that's really the the challenge. um outright 230 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:59,280 bans and stuff like that. That's a little bit um more difficult in terms of 231 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:05,840 what's allowed under the law, but really um the dedicated team has been out in 232 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:10,160 force with the schools and I think um Deputy Felix and Deputy Buy spent the 233 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:14,400 weekend and then they've been to several of their assemblies too. Um in terms of 234 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:19,200 some of the other particular aspects of what the um students brought forward 235 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:23,360 with a little bit more detail beyond the enforcement and education, we'll take a 236 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:28,400 deeper dive into that as well and see what is uh what's feasible as well. 237 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:34,320 » Yeah, I I think that that I would appreciate if we we did consider that 238 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:40,160 and at least provide a a response even even if we believed some of them may not 239 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:45,760 be feasible for whatever reason it may be. I think we at least deserve to take 240 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:48,640 a look at it and review it and determine what what makes sense for us. 241 00:18:47,039 --> 00:18:53,600 » Yeah, absolutely. And we can talk and some of those uh some of those young uh 242 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:58,160 folks are, you know, part of a lot of the leadership activities with it with 243 00:18:55,760 --> 00:19:00,640 that work with us. So, we're in contact with them. So, and we'll we'll get back 244 00:18:59,679 --> 00:19:05,280 to them. Um, I know that we had mentioned to Greg 245 00:19:03,360 --> 00:19:11,120 some time ago when I believe there were some cities in San Diego that had 246 00:19:08,799 --> 00:19:19,360 actually put ordinances in place that banned ebikes uh ebikes and um I know of 247 00:19:17,039 --> 00:19:25,840 some other cities that are looking at banning them at a certain time which is 248 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:30,320 early morning and then again in the early afternoon when kids are coming and 249 00:19:27,919 --> 00:19:35,919 going because that seems to the time that [clears throat] of course they're 250 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:42,880 using them. You know, I I only live one block um east of Temple City Boulevard 251 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:48,400 and I am going to say in the last two weeks 252 00:19:45,360 --> 00:19:59,200 I have seen an uptake in kids on ebikes, 90% of them without 253 00:19:52,400 --> 00:20:06,000 helmets. So, I'm wondering at what point will we decide that we're just not going 254 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:10,400 to allow them or make it so difficult that these kids 255 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:16,640 can't use them? Maybe. [clears throat] I I don't know what the answer is, but I 256 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:23,200 am just afraid that every day on, you know, whether it's Facebook pages or 257 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:30,640 um you know, the news, somebody's in the hospital, someone's having a GoFundMe 258 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:37,039 um fundraiser for someone who was injured critically with brain injuries 259 00:20:34,159 --> 00:20:43,200 on, you know, the news. I I I just don't know. I mean, if if one city was able to 260 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:47,600 do it and it was legally okay. We've been talking about education of of 261 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:54,640 ebikes for how long? You know, your hands are tied. And I think we really 262 00:20:50,559 --> 00:20:59,600 need to think about this and maybe have a special meeting in with Greg, our city 263 00:20:57,360 --> 00:21:05,039 attorney, looking and our sheriff's department looking at what's the maximum 264 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:10,720 enforcement we can allow in our city that's legal. It's just my thought, but 265 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:15,919 I know Tom, you have been so vocal about this also. And I just think there comes 266 00:21:12,559 --> 00:21:21,200 a point in time where education is not working anymore. 267 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:24,880 It it just doesn't seem to be enough. So just my thoughts on that. 268 00:21:23,039 --> 00:21:29,360 » Mayor, may I just take on comments? >> Yes, please. 269 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:34,640 » So yeah, not only ebikes. Um just uh just last week I was driving Huntington 270 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:40,720 Boulevard and there was a kid in East Scooter not bike and he was going 271 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:46,640 between 30 and 40 miles because I could tell cuz that's by speed and I could 272 00:21:43,919 --> 00:21:50,320 barely caught up with him uh on I don't it was it was crazy. So, so my question 273 00:21:49,039 --> 00:21:53,919 is really while we're talking about ebikes, but there are e scooters out 274 00:21:52,080 --> 00:22:00,000 there that are probably even faster because they're light, smaller, lighter. 275 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:04,080 And and I must say as a former cyclist, it's harder to control a 276 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:07,360 scooter than a bike. Bike you can control it just with your legs, but 277 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:12,159 there are no legs, you know, because you're standing on the scooter. So, so I 278 00:22:10,159 --> 00:22:20,159 just want to take on what to council member Sternest uh response. So, um, at 279 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:24,640 what point and and what should we do about these things? 280 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:30,640 » Okay. Yeah. So, I think our city manager hears us loud and clear. I think there 281 00:22:27,360 --> 00:22:35,360 there's a lot of uh information that we would need to have a substantive 282 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:39,919 discussion on this matter that of course includes our city attorney's input. And 283 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:44,320 we do know there's a lot going on in neighboring cities. And uh I I will the 284 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:49,280 only thing I will say at this point is not all cities are created equal. So in 285 00:22:47,360 --> 00:22:53,679 terms of what they're dealing with, what we're dealing with uh maybe not exactly 286 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:58,880 an applesto apples comparison, but nevertheless I think it warrants a a 287 00:22:55,760 --> 00:23:04,320 substantive discussion to see if there's anything again on the policy end that 288 00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:09,440 would help with this issue. Right. Um, one thing I I want us to be cognizant of 289 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:13,280 is that if we're limiting accessibility for transportation, that could also have 290 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:17,039 a another effect. So, there's always going to be pros and cons to what we do. 291 00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:20,080 And and I think that's that's why it necessitates a a discussion at the 292 00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:23,360 policy level. >> You know, I I'm sorry. I 293 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:29,760 » Sorry. >> I think that 294 00:23:26,159 --> 00:23:36,240 accessibility, yes, can be an issue, but we did without ebikes for many years. 295 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:41,280 And most children who go to school are either dropped off by 296 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:44,880 their parents and or you know um maybe they walk maybe some parents don't feel 297 00:23:43,679 --> 00:23:51,280 safe with that but they make arrangements and I think that 298 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:57,039 you know at some point we are the policy makers and we take a note to do the best 299 00:23:54,159 --> 00:24:03,039 that we can and and protect the people that we represent. And I just think that 300 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:07,600 anything that's within the law, whether it's making you get a license or 301 00:24:04,799 --> 00:24:13,120 whatever that might look like, I think that we should should do that. And, you 302 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:17,120 know, parents can get up 5 minutes earlier. How how long does it take to 303 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:21,360 get from, you know, where I live to the high school? It's just a matter of more 304 00:24:19,679 --> 00:24:25,760 convenience provided. It's like we live in a fast food, you know, world. then I 305 00:24:23,919 --> 00:24:29,360 I just can't be more adamant about it that I think we're going to sit here one 306 00:24:27,360 --> 00:24:32,880 day and we're going to feel sorry for the family of someone that got either 307 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:38,720 killed or critically injured. And I think Tom and I see the possibilities 308 00:24:35,679 --> 00:24:44,799 daily that can happen with serving on CJPIA. I do from a transportation issue 309 00:24:42,159 --> 00:24:50,000 because I serve on Foothill Transit. So, you know, accessibility is people make 310 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:54,960 it happen. I mean, I drove my kids to school far out of Temple City and I made 311 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:59,520 sure they got there on time. I mean, because I chose to send my kids to a 312 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:04,559 religious school, but so I think parents have the ability to enforce it, but it 313 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:08,960 doesn't seem like enforcement is is happening from the parental standpoint. 314 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:12,159 So, get up 10 minutes earlier and take your kids to school. 315 00:25:09,679 --> 00:25:18,400 » And if I may, um, I think there's a huge difference between bicycle and ebikes. I 316 00:25:15,279 --> 00:25:22,159 mean I mean we have bicycles for ages, right? We never had accessibility 317 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:25,360 problem. So we're really not talking about banning regular bicycles. 318 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:29,760 » No. >> Right. Or or or um making ordinance 319 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:32,640 against uh regular bicycles. We're talking about ebikes. The ones that that 320 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:36,240 goes fast. >> The children with that are on bicycles 321 00:25:34,799 --> 00:25:38,480 are wearing helmets, >> right? 322 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:42,880 » They have the helmets on. I see them with helmets, but I don't see the ebike 323 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:45,039 kids with helmets or scooters. >> Yeah. 324 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:51,200 » Yeah. So, so what what I would suggest is that of you, our city manager will 325 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:57,120 tell us when an agenda item can be prepared for this discussion matter. I 326 00:25:53,679 --> 00:26:00,640 would also suggest that considering the substantive nature of the discussion, it 327 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:05,679 probably wouldn't fit in this current meetings format. It would be part of our 328 00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:10,159 regular council meeting discussion. Um, I would also suggest that as part of the 329 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:14,240 standing committee with the school district that council member Chavez and 330 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:19,120 I are part of that before that gets placed on our agenda, we get a chance to 331 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:23,039 give them a heads up that this is part of that discussion and we should invite 332 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:27,440 them to be a part of that input as well since they are our partners um, in that 333 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:32,320 and I would go as far as saying that this extends to Elmani Unified even 334 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:37,679 though we don't hear as much of maybe we don't hear as many issues from Clemenson 335 00:26:34,799 --> 00:26:43,039 But nevertheless, they are part of the the city limits as well as any kind of 336 00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:45,120 impacts related to the Arcadia school district side of the city. 337 00:26:44,559 --> 00:26:49,440 » We'll do >> Yeah, I know. 338 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:53,520 » St. Gabriel, we have the the school right behind the police station. 339 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,480 » Oh, the the St. Gabriel Academy. >> Yes. 340 00:26:53,919 --> 00:26:57,600 » On Broadway, >> the Elks Club, isn't there a school 341 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:02,080 right across the street? >> Oh, yes. Yes. I forgot about that. Yes. 342 00:26:59,919 --> 00:27:06,400 Yeah. So [clears throat] definitely that partnership with the districts needs to 343 00:27:04,159 --> 00:27:09,600 be included as part of this discussion. >> Understood sir. 344 00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:15,120 » Okay. And and I do want to just on that note and end on a a rel somewhat high 345 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:19,360 note on that. Um I will say that anecdotally for the uh the Temple City 346 00:27:17,679 --> 00:27:24,080 Unified School District even at the elementary school level in back to 347 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:28,960 school nights for my kids the teachers have actually addressed the ebike issue 348 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:33,919 in the back to school night. They don't go into a lot of details obviously, but 349 00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:37,360 they do note that well they first they mention that well it's not as prevalent 350 00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:42,159 of a problem at the elementary school level but they do tell parents they says 351 00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:46,720 hey if you if your kids are coming to school on ebikes know that there are 352 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:52,960 laws and regulations governing safety the types of bikes the speed etc and so 353 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:57,120 they said you need to be informed um but when I asked the teachers they says yeah 354 00:27:54,559 --> 00:28:02,399 we we don't see that as as much at Longden Cloverly elementary. So, it's 355 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:08,799 probably a more of a high school or middle school issue. 356 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:14,320 All right, with that, um, if are there any final final comments before we 357 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:19,679 adjourn? Um, oh, actually, no, we have one last public comment item. So, I will 358 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:22,640 open the public comment for the final part of our meeting. Is there anyone who 359 00:28:21,039 --> 00:28:26,320 would like to address council at this time? 360 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:29,120 Okay, madame city clerk, are there any virtual speakers on this part of the 361 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,320 item? >> Mayor, we do not have a request. Oh, 362 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,760 excuse me. >> Do we have one? 363 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:38,000 » We do have a public uh we do have a participant, but they're not requesting 364 00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:43,039 to speak. >> Got it. Okay. Thank you. Then uh with 365 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:48,880 that, I will close the public comment and we are adjourned for this session. 366 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:54,640 Um but council does have a close session following this meeting. So um we will 367 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:57,440 follow and open the close session right afterwards. 368 00:28:55,440 --> 00:29:02,000 » Uh close session is threat of litigation facts unknown to the potential plaintiff 369 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:05,399 one potential case under government code section 54956.9 370 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:16,559 subsection D I have four. Thank you. Where are we? 371 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:23,840 » Okay. Good good morning. Um >> council has concluded close session. We 372 00:29:19,679 --> 00:29:29,919 were briefed by our city attorney on the item listed on 6A of close session item 373 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:37,960 and there is no reportable action at this time. So with that we will adjourn 374 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,960 the close session.