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[16:46] Is there something that as a community, we can do better to get that information out about the before and after, because people like to recreate? I mean, it is. Yeah. So we have a fairly robust website, but it's a government website and people are always hesitant to go there. But it shows pictures of before it talks about the science, the study by Florida Antic University to measure rates of erosion. And it has quite a lot of pictures about that.
[17:16] and we already have in development a couple of signs recognizing the contribution of the Florida and Land Navigation District that provided approximately half the funding to the project, that recognize them and also show the before and the after why the project was needed and we're working that message into other interpretive elements of the site.
[17:35] So we've got programs that look at the midden and talk about why protecting the midden and why the shoreline.
[17:41] But unfortunately we have yet to find a way to touch the people that still think we're building condos out there and let them know that there's no condos going in.
[17:52] And it's not through lack of opportunity to be educated about it. I think it's the old adage you can bring a host of water, you can't make it drink the information's there.
[18:05] And we've had some amazing influences pulled a bill with his aerial photography.
[18:11] He's interviewed me a number of times.
[18:13] We've had the county Benji stew come out and put together a video.
[18:18] So there's lots of information out there.
[18:20] I'm happy if the question has its own media outlets to provide images, photographs,
[18:28] interviews to talk about it, and maybe that's another way to get it.
[18:32] and we will continue to do programs that give tours
[18:36] and talk about the project.
[18:42] I guess about a week or two ago, I saw a video.
[18:47] It was like an aerial view taken from a drone.
[18:50] Maybe you produced it, I don't know,
[18:52] but I was very surprised at how much progress
[18:56] you had made at that point in time.
[19:01] And I did notice though that there were some comments
[19:04] from mostly local people that were lamenting the fact that their favorite hangout
[19:12] from when they were teenagers is like disappearing.
[19:16] But it seemed obvious to me they had no idea that you have lost about five acres of land
[19:22] over the years from I guess basically primarily human interaction with the site.
[19:30] But, no, I was very pleased to see that, I was actually surprised, but obviously you're
[19:38] aware that about the local people being concerned about their old hangout spot, but this
[19:47] is progress, and it's very important to preserve those lands, and five acres is a lot of land.
[19:53] The message that I remind people is, you know, 20 years ago, 30 years ago, our communities
[20:02] were significantly smaller. The number of registered boats in Florida was half of what it
[20:07] is today. The King Tides weren't as high, the storms weren't as powerful. There's so much
[20:14] change. And if we want the lighthouse to stay an iconic structure, we want the resources
[20:19] and want the opportunity to continue to exist. We've got to manage it in a sustainable fashion
[20:24] and that doesn't mean that their kids are going to have any less valuable memories. It just
[20:29] means that their memories aren't going to apply. I have stopped reading the comments,
[20:35] I've got to those videos. That has unfortunately not stopped the death threats that I get but
[20:40] but that's just part of being in public life.
[20:51] You noted that the ribbon cutting is on December 3, is that open to the public?
[20:56] So the formal ribbon cutting itself is a ceremony with a keynote speaker that the White House
[21:03] is orchestrating and so that bit will be by background check only and they have an invite list
[21:10] and there are representatives from sequester across the board, invited names on that list.
[21:16] Then the public event will be at 1pm and the tabling starts from 1 to 5 and that will include
[21:22] tours of the lighthouse and it's free to get into the lighthouse, climb the lighthouse that day,
[21:28] so there'll be food and error, all that kind of stuff.
[21:35] What was the date when you said that barrier was going to be removed?
[21:39] were boatskin? So it was actually removed earlier this week from three of the beaches, so the beaches
[21:47] that are in front of the retaining wall now no longer has the turbidity barrier in front of it.
[21:54] So those boats can come up there. They're still not supposed to leave the shoreline and climb
[22:00] into the RNA itself. It's still an active construction site, and there are signs that warn them of
[22:05] passing. Just this weekend, the local police managed to detain and return home a number of
[22:12] views who are on the construction barges trying to operate the equipment. We still get those
[22:18] kind of issues, but it will be formally open. We will be marketing it as open and letting everybody
[22:24] know from that December 3rd date to come and enjoy and use responsibly. So you can bring about
[22:33] there now. Just in those designated. Just in those pictures. Have you noticed what kind of boat traffic
[22:39] is coming? You said earlier this week. So one of the beaches has been open for a few weeks with
[22:44] no turbidity curtain. We've had quite a lot of paddleboarders. A few what I would consider medium-sized
[22:51] boats about 18 foot centre console come in and sort of sit fishing off the back or step into the
[22:58] water and swim along those beaches. With an 18-foot boat you can get two to three per beach,
[23:06] which gives you a total of about 16 along the entire shoreline, and a modification from the
[23:13] original plans. We originally had no dedicated pedestrian access, but we added two where there is
[23:20] a piling that stops anything larger than paddleboard or archaic coming in, and it's focused on making sure
[23:27] there's been space for those of us that aren't fortunate enough to have a boat.
[23:35] Peter, would you be okay with doing maybe a video interview with us about, you know,
[23:40] kind of a construction update, but also maybe sharing people about the beaches being open and how
[23:44] how they should use their boats and, you know, kind of use it as like a construction update,
[23:49] but also kind of a, hey, this is this is the new situation for boats. Something like that?
[23:54] Yep, absolutely.
[23:56] We're getting that quick WPTV reached out yesterday and wanted to schedule something
[23:59] next week.
[24:00] So to get the scoop, we've got to do it.
[24:02] Yeah, all right.
[24:02] We're on it.
[24:03] We're on it.
[24:06] All right.
[24:07] Is that it?
[24:08] Yeah.
[24:08] All right.
[24:09] Thank you so much for coming.
[24:10] And I appreciate it.
[24:11] Appreciate the opportunity.
[24:12] Thank you very much.
[24:12] And hopefully you'll come out and sit on December 3rd, if not before.
[24:16] All right.
[24:17] Thanks.
[24:17] Thank you.
[24:18] Thanks Peter.
[24:23] So the consent agenda, our next item on the agenda here, it says our EAC meetings.
[24:28] September 9th, 2026.
[24:32] Is that...
[24:32] Is that the...
[24:40] It's usually the minutes.
[24:41] Yeah, it's usually the minutes from
[24:43] our last meeting which was in August, right?
[24:46] Right.
[24:47] Alright, so that's the only change I would make to
[24:50] the consent agenda.
[24:55] I make a motion to pardon.
[24:58] The consent agenda, EIC, August, meeting minutes?
[25:02] But it says him, oh I'm sorry, oh I see, so there was a page break and it makes it appear
[25:13] anyway.
[25:16] Okay, strike that, my bad.
[25:20] Okay, so if anyone has any changes to the consent agenda, which are the EAC meeting minutes
[25:30] from our August meeting, if not, maybe a motion to approve the consent agenda.
[25:37] I'll make that motion.
[25:39] Second.
[25:40] All is in favor?
[25:41] Aye.
[25:42] Against?
[25:43] Motion carries.
[25:47] Regular agenda, old business.
[25:50] I did send out a kind of a rough bullet point list of items that I think we had discussed
[25:57] in our last meeting that could be potentially discussed in our joint meeting with the Jupiter
[26:03] Environmental Task Force next month. Right? Yeah, the end of next month.
[26:11] Okay, I've got them on a slide show here.
[26:14] No.
[26:14] Those are actually not chair freezes ideas.
[26:17] Those are the committee's ideas.
[26:18] Your suggestions.
[26:19] Okay.
[26:20] Okay, so let's just go down the list, review of the Cuesta AC activities, I mean I can
[26:30] certainly put together kind of a bullet point list of some of the things that we have
[26:37] done.
[26:37] I just included three here, I probably missed one and that was the vertical oyster garden.
[26:45] Is there anything else that we have, especially the committee members that have been here a little bit longer over the past year that I mean, these are the ones that came up. I sort of looked back at our agendas from previous months and just came up with a few if I'm missing something please.
[27:06] I kind of went through it in my usual way where I start out really general and get
[27:14] start going specifically and when I went through that process it led me to the main
[27:23] question of the two organizations would be if the way I already have or have the potential
[27:30] to do environmental projects and if they're done independently is there a benefit for us
[27:36] doing them cohesively instead of continuing independently and of course the first thing
[27:43] that popped up was the Dover ditch project which yes that was a joint project with benefits
[27:49] for our environment that affects both towns and has certainly done more effectively together
[27:58] and other things what other things do we have in common with Jupiter and the first one is
[28:06] the Laxahatchee River. That pertains to stormwater, groundwater flooding, habitat, and development
[28:12] impacts. And we already have an entity, an agency that was at their acronym, the LRPI,
[28:24] which was the Laxahatchee is the Laxahatchee River Preservation Initiative. That was used
[28:30] to bring the two municipalities together to do that Doverditch. I believe they were
[28:35] the ones if Jay correct me if they gave us the grant or gave Jupiter the grant I should say.
[28:40] And so we have that entity and the other entities there's South Florida Water Management,
[28:46] the FDEP and the locks out to the river district, the Jupiter inlet district on Beach County
[28:52] and Martin County.
[28:53] So we have these organizations that already exist in opportunities for collaborative projects.
[29:02] in the Laxahatchee River, Jupiter has their storm water and their flooding and water quality
[29:12] is the Laxahatchee River.
[29:14] To Cuesta has the Laxahatchee River, the Indian River Lagoon, and the Atlantic Ocean.
[29:19] So we affect three bodies, they're all connected, obviously.
[29:23] And so that led me to thinking, okay, maybe that's where we start off first, is looking
[29:33] at what our common, I'll call it, resources are, which is the bodies of water that is
[29:42] affected by the storm water, the water quality.
[29:46] Are we using the same standards for measurement between the two towns and municipalities?
[29:51] I'm not sure.
[29:54] What's the name of...
[30:00] Each town's annual plan, the comprehensive plans do we have a similarity between the two and how we look at our environmental. That's a good point. Do they survey? I know we surveyed. Is there anything in there that's common?
[30:19] And those do I have on their wastewater, groundwater, resiliency, development standards.
[30:27] What if one community builds, approves some type of development that actually ends up
[30:37] affecting, I'll just say, storm water in our area.
[30:44] The nutrient, actually this is a common one that I did find between the two of us.
[30:50] We have fertilizer bands, we both have those, but I think to question this is a bit more
[30:56] stringent with the nitrogen and phosphorus being specific, so the water quality obviously
[31:01] is affected.
[31:02] So it's a commonality.
[31:03] So finding those first and then kind of work out to what all the specifics projects that
[31:13] could be.
[31:14] And, of course, we don't want to create another layer of bureaucracy or another entity
[31:21] which just wants something that we can continue to work together to improve.
[31:26] What I see is our biggest commonality is the water, that's just what I agree with.
[31:34] And PFAS, obviously, that's one of the categories under water quality, so if we have, when we
[31:43] have this meeting with Jupiter I envision us identifying say three or four broad categories
[31:52] perhaps they are what I just mentioned or additions or whatever and then in those categories
[31:58] where do our little projects fit in that are common and then where do we go from there.
[32:04] And if I can just jump in for a minute we do have Utilities Director Alison Felsberg here
[32:08] and she has committed to attending the meeting, so she will be there to discuss the shared
[32:16] water issues and she's actually a former town of Jupiter employees, so she's got a little
[32:20] bit of pull over there.
[32:22] So yeah, just want to know, we will be prepared to address some of those commonalities with
[32:27] Jupiter at the meeting.
[32:28] Right,
[32:31] sounds.
[32:32] So did you type all this out or type?
[32:34] It's not a good organization, I won't be happy to do that and send it out.
[32:40] That'd be great.
[32:41] If I can make one suggestion, looking into, like, shared land development regulations is a massive undertaking.
[32:52] And I think probably goes a little bit beyond the scope that the council would want us digging into right now anyways.
[32:58] We can't even update our zoning code for a year because of state law.
[33:01] So I don't know that that will be the most beneficial, but I do, I like everything else.
[33:06] And that's a policy change, which I don't think we would be looking at, but can we share the information and have knowledge of it?
[33:14] If it's something that's very impactful, awesome one or the other.
[33:18] So there's a program in Palm Beach County called I-Park and it's all the different planning directors and we all get together monthly.
[33:28] And then every time Jupiter has a big project, we get notification of it every time and vice versa.
[33:34] So, and I have a good relationship with their planning department.
[33:38] So, yeah, so there's already intergovernmental coordination that goes on between us.
[33:43] Okay.
[33:44] So.
[33:44] Yeah, I'm not just familiar with those.
[33:47] So, what was that called?
[33:49] It's called iPark.
[33:50] I don't even know what it stands for.
[33:53] Development impact of some sort.
[33:54] It's essentially it's essentially it's a clearing house for projects that happen.
[34:00] and then it's also a group that gets together
[34:03] to discuss commonalities throughout Palm Beach County.
[34:06] I think it's IP ARCK.
[34:14] For instance, the county is doing their own county-wide
[34:18] transportation master plan,
[34:22] and I actually put to get pulled together
[34:24] all the planning directors from Northern Palm Beach County,
[34:27] and we all got together, and especially with town
[34:30] of Drupur, and we all put our heads together
[34:31] to provide north county specific impact for this county wide project.
[34:37] So there's already a lot of coordination that goes on at that level.
[34:40] Okay, that's good.
[34:43] At one point, was there already a joint meeting with the Jupiter Environmental Council in
[34:50] 2425?
[34:52] There was never, there has not been a joint meeting.
[34:54] There's been one.
[34:55] I think there was.
[34:56] We had one many years ago when the EAC first began.
[35:01] We went to them and shared what we were working on and they were actually very surprised at how much we were doing.
[35:11] They were not very active at that time.
[35:15] And to Tom's point, I'd put together a slide show here that shows their meeting history.
[35:20] They've only had two meetings this year so far.
[35:24] and last year they had four, and in 2024 they had three, so there, and then this is these are kind of the discussion points that they've had at their two meetings this year.
[35:36] So they did a kind of a trash cleanup at a property that Joe Chasen, who I know, spoke to us, so he's the Jupiter inlet district.
[35:44] And I'm assuming he was speaking to them about the kind of a sand bar issue with the Jupiter inlet, which is a concern, and that's in the town of Jupiter.
[35:52] and then they gave an update on the new Jupiter fire station that's over there kind of by
[35:58] harbour side and there's a dock that was going in there and that's really from it looks
[36:02] like the extent of what they've discussed so far this year so I don't know that there
[36:06] is as engaged as as our committee is at this point.
[36:09] These ideas that I find, that's why I was trying, yeah I was trying to maybe pull back just
[36:17] a little bit. Yeah, but it's it's it makes sense even beyond Jupiter, we talked about Jupiter in
[36:24] like colony and whoever's impacted in this whole waterway system that we're all responsible for
[36:30] on a environmental standpoint. So maybe this becomes us making them aware of some other things that
[36:43] they can be involved with, and certainly we will all benefit, the communities benefit
[36:47] from our water quality and knowing the storm water and how all those things impact all
[36:55] of us.
[36:56] We have jurisdiction lines, but we're all on the same.
[37:00] What?
[37:02] If I can jump into one suggestion, I had my own little list of ideas to add on to the committee.
[37:08] is, you know, when it comes to living shorelines, we really use Jupiter's code as a model.
[37:14] And I wonder if we can kind of share with them our green building code that we just created
[37:18] and see if they'd want to adopt that kind of similar to what we did.
[37:23] You guys have already touched on the water quality and mangrove issue.
[37:27] And then the other one is doing like a biannual or an annual joint update from people like
[37:33] like Joe and Peter Duid and Mang and all these groups that we have talked. I think a lot
[37:38] of them do talk to both groups, and it might make sense to just have it be a joint
[37:43] thing.
[37:45] And I think this is something we've talked about doing in the past where we do one night
[37:50] and we have three or four of them come speak and then we can get the residents excited.
[37:55] Like for instance today, if we put something on in social media and said, hey, we have
[38:00] Peter DeWitt coming, you know, we might have two people come, but if we said, hey, we
[38:03] have Peter DeWitt, Joe Chason, Mang, all these people come see what they're talking
[38:08] about.
[38:08] We might get 10 or 15 people.
[38:10] So, that's something that I would be interested if you guys are interested in exploring.
[38:16] No, I think that's sufficient, actually, and it's a communication education piece, isn't
[38:20] it?
[38:20] Because we can draw more people, that's great.
[38:25] So I don't want to be a Debbie Downer, but didn't we have an evening event one time and had multiple speakers that and it was attended by what like five?
[38:37] It was like eight to ten. You're selling us short, Brad.
[38:42] The staff and others. Yeah.
[38:45] And that one was specific to living shorelines.
[38:49] It wasn't necessarily local project updates, right?
[38:54] So I think a lot of people do want to hear what's going on Jupiter in the district, right?
[38:58] Boaters want to know what's going on with the sand bar issue out there.
[39:02] People might want updates from Peter to Whit, or from Sue Panella on the Jupiter Narrows project.
[39:08] Or for instance, we've been lucky to not have beach reneurishment issues in the past maybe two winners,
[39:14] but that winner we had maybe two or three ago that was really bad.
[39:17] maybe we have Andy Stewart from Palm Beach County talk about beach restoration. I think we could
[39:26] probably make it interesting. Put those topics at the head of the marketing piece and then their
[39:33] names and who they represent. But at minimum, they're not having to go speak to both committees.
[39:40] So I think
[39:41] I think that's probably the easiest selling point and then ideally residents will want
[39:47] to come as well.
[39:49] Oh, go ahead.
[39:56] Sorry, I just wanted to point out one thing.
[39:58] As it was stated, we are part of the Lockstatshe River Preservation Initiative, but there's also
[40:02] another organization called the Lockstatshe River Management Coordinating Council, Jupiter
[40:06] and the village on both of those organizations, and we meet both of those organizations meet
[40:13] quarterly amongst a lot of other groups. The LRMCC actually has a bigger board or committee
[40:23] whatever you want to call it. The DOT is represented there, South Ford Water Management District,
[40:29] DEP, Palm Beach County, Martin County, Joe Chason. His organization is part of both of those
[40:38] boards as well. So it's a really great time where we all come together and talk about our
[40:42] different projects whether they're funded by those organizations or not.
[40:46] LRPI is the organization that helped us get that funding for the Dover
[40:52] Ditch Living Shoreline. And so we have provided a couple of updates to them
[40:57] anytime we're doing work or we just had our warranty inspection. We're providing
[41:00] those updates to the LRPI board whenever we have those meetings. All of like both
[41:05] of those meetings are open to the public and so I can share those times with
[41:09] with Jay any time we're having those meetings, but they're typically on a Monday around
[41:14] the same time as this, so like 2 to 4, or LRPI's noon to 4, and LRMCC I think is 2 to 4.
[41:23] I can get the dates though in the times for you if you guys would like to attend because
[41:29] they're really great.
[41:29] We get presentations for DOT on some of their projects.
[41:33] Palm Beach County does a lot of projects, I think at the next LRPI meeting their archaeologist
[41:38] is coming to give an update on just different findings that they have.
[41:43] So we get a lot of updates through those programs and interact.
[41:47] But I do think the missing link is like obviously the public education of it.
[41:50] That's just within our organizations where we're sharing the information about the projects.
[41:54] But it doesn't necessarily come all the way to you all or to the public.
[41:58] Okay.
[41:58] So there's a lot of interagency communication.
[42:00] It's just more behind the scenes.
[42:02] I mostly need a road map of all the so many
[42:06] acronyms and all. Yeah, just to kind of kind of see what are they all. Yeah, it says on one piece of paper so that it's also the locks that you
[42:15] River District. Right. I mean, we all have those those coordinating council meetings. So the LRMCC we meet at the River Center
[42:25] in Jupiter, and then for the LRPI right now we're meeting at the Town of Jupiter's Utility
[42:32] Field Office which is back behind the fire station, oh I'm bad with directions.
[42:41] Is it the old bush wildlife area?
[42:42] No.
[42:43] If you're coming into Indian Town and you turn left where the fire station is and you go
[42:48] past it like Uncle Mix, go to the light, after the fire station light you turn left, you
[42:52] We follow that road all the way down and around and it's back tucked by the woods.
[42:56] My stone creek?
[42:57] Yes.
[42:57] Back in my stone creek, thank you.
[43:02] Alison, my recollection is that the state through FDEP created that as a way to improve
[43:14] the water quality in the locks as you river primarily and are you seeing any improvements that
[43:22] that are happening, that are reducing direct runoff into the river.
[43:30] Specifically into the river, the only one that I'm aware of right now is both what we
[43:35] did with the Doverditch Living Shoreline and then Jupiter has a couple of stormwater projects
[43:39] also that got LRPI funding that helped, yeah, Sims Creek and then they did like an industrial
[43:45] park stormwater improvement project.
[43:50] So there's a couple of projects that are reducing runoff or reducing nitrogen or phosphorus loading and that's how in general terms when we're going for projects, that's how we all measure our projects when it comes to storm water and the environment. It's nutrient load reduction.
[44:07] So our two municipalities aren't monitoring this individually. It's through these agencies. So we're using the same standard measurements.
[44:15] For the most part, there is BMPs that are passed down through DEP, and then there's
[44:20] of sorry best management practices from Florida Department of Environmental Protection
[44:25] that are used by a lot of municipalities, that's kind of like our standard.
[44:29] And then when it comes to flooding and rainfall, it's South Florida Water Management District
[44:33] and they're standards.
[44:35] That's typically what municipalities are using, and it can vary a little bit by different
[44:40] municipalities, but that's the general standard.
[44:42] So between our two we're we're using those universal standards for those agents. I believe so I'd have to double check
[44:49] But they're pretty similar. There might be a little difference here or there, but they're pretty similar. Yes
[44:54] And we all were a part of the MS4 program. So we're joined with them upon beach County
[45:00] For this whole program to reduce pollutants in the locks, hatchee, river, and locks, hatchee, river, and management, coordinating council did come from that as well. So that's the coordinating council that's responsible for improving the river's quality and they keep track of all of the different projects that are included in that. So there's a whole spreadsheet that we update annually with every municipality's projects and where we're at an estimated nutrient load reduction for each project and where the projects are at.
[45:29] So that's all compiled by the LRMCC and it's sent to DEP and then LRPI is kind of a funding
[45:39] bridge that helps get funding for some of those projects.
[45:51] So who's preparing the agenda for this meeting?
[45:55] It sounds like a bureaucrat.
[45:58] So Brad, myself and then I believe two members of staff at the town of Jupiter are having
[46:07] a meeting on October 1st to kind of map out the agenda.
[46:10] So I assume we'll get our list of discussion points to them in advance so they can review
[46:16] that and then we'll hopefully brainstorm and figure out what to kind of what to put on
[46:22] there to make it the most efficient meeting because we also don't want to throw the kitchen
[46:27] sink at everything and then have it become an unproductive meeting.
[46:31] So, um, maybe it's focused on a few. Yeah, you know, it's
[46:37] worries, but each category
[46:39] may have bullets. Bullets that you don't have to get into specifically, just get the broadest
[46:44] ones first.
[46:49] So I like the idea of the locks of Hatchee River being a focus, because we do
[46:54] share it physically with them. And there's, I mean, but there is a lot that goes into that
[47:00] with regard to stormwater, with regard to water quality, I mean there's a lot of it, but
[47:08] you know, if we were to just narrow it down to one area, I think that would be a good one,
[47:14] because there's plenty to pick from that. What about the other shared entity that's great as Jay
[47:21] Lona? You know, it sounds like Peter has in, you know, kind of an issue that he wants the spearhead,
[47:27] And maybe it's an opportunity to partner with them to help them find that sponsor or donors
[47:34] that would do the trail project he wants to do.
[47:39] Or it looks like they do clean-ups.
[47:41] Maybe there's an opportunity to do a joint town of Jupiter to quest a clean-up at J. Lona for Peter.
[47:47] That's a good talk.
[47:50] Is he going to get together with or get me some more information in regards to what that monetary
[47:59] I'm going to touch base with them about that.
[48:01] There's something else I wanted to pick as brain about too.
[48:07] So we've got two ideas for the meeting kind of broad.
[48:13] I think that one of a third one could possibly be the education piece.
[48:18] They have common videos,
[48:23] common pamphlets, common everything that we are,
[48:28] that we have available to our citizens in Jupiter and Equesta.
[48:32] I see us as supporting Peter because there is so much misinformation out there and disgruntled
[48:41] people.
[48:42] They don't understand.
[48:43] And I don't think they're going to go to a government website and sit and read all that
[48:47] stuff.
[48:47] I know I don't.
[48:48] I mean, let me back up.
[48:50] Before these meetings, I do research.
[48:52] But in general, if I was on this committee, I would not be doing that kind of research.
[48:56] So, I think if we put some materials together and we have it available and it's a cooperative
[49:01] effort and it's the same word that's getting out to all of our residents, I think it's
[49:08] consistent, I think it'd be very helpful and one of the pieces there can be gelona, another
[49:14] piece can be the loxahatchee river, you know we can focus on some key things that we have
[49:21] and common with Jupiter.
[49:24] Come up with innovative, creative ways to educate
[49:28] because we have to write something.
[49:30] They're not.
[49:30] I mean, the materials on the website,
[49:32] you could take stuff from there.
[49:34] I mean, we don't reinvent the wheel.
[49:37] But nobody's going to sit on a website
[49:39] and do that kind of research.
[49:41] You know, let's hear.
[49:43] I don't know.
[49:44] There are people.
[49:45] But yeah, it has to be entertaining.
[49:47] We have a lot of events.
[49:48] They have a lot of events.
[49:49] How can we get ready to present this at our various events?
[49:54] Well, we already have a captive audience.
[49:56] Like when you all did the oyster walls,
[50:00] you were at an event already
[50:02] and so people came around and got involved.
[50:05] You know, that wouldn't have happened
[50:07] if you were just inviting people to come here
[50:10] and create the little oyster.
[50:12] Exactly.
[50:12] It wouldn't have happened.
[50:14] So that's what I see as an important piece
[50:17] that as a group here we can do, we're kind of limited because we're just a small group.
[50:24] We meet only once a month. They only meet quarterly at best.
[50:30] So correct me if I'm wrong. You're saying so all events that happen from tequested to
[50:36] Jupiter, we invite each other to is that because I think it would be great.
[50:42] I think we do a great job of just the quest of events and like for instance the shredded event, you know, we're gonna be great.
[50:49] The U.S. is going to that or yeah, I will be there.
[50:53] And then we have a, I'm sorry, go ahead and I'll push you, go ahead and I'll push you.
[50:56] We have a quite a, quite an agenda of events coming up in the park.
[51:01] They started to publish what's gonna be happening when our seasonal residents come back.
[51:06] So now it's going to start picking up, and we have, you know, more opportunity to be present.
[51:14] I was just going to say that Jay is so good about incorporating the ideas of incorporating
[51:21] us into existing town events, because you're absolutely right about the oyster thing that
[51:27] arrives.
[51:28] Yeah, you capture when you're at an event that's not specifically for education of a specific
[51:34] big thing, but always being visible somehow at these events, which we've talked about.
[51:39] I'm just going to forget how we do it, but also with Jupiter. I like the piece of it,
[51:45] like Jelona, having the same information and verbiage go out so that it's consistent,
[51:51] yeah, common message.
[51:52] Yeah, so it doesn't get it.
[51:55] Jay, do you know whether or not the Jupiter environmental group do they have, like a page
[52:02] on the Jupiter website or anything like that? I looked on there and it didn't. I don't
[52:07] it's it's there. I mean I didn't see there wasn't much listed at beach cleanups. It was sparse.
[52:17] Yeah I see this I that's why yeah there's not a lot going on. Sparse for the reason. Yeah so maybe we
[52:23] become their energizer.
[52:27] Well they're gonna have to buy into it you know they're gonna say yeah well
[52:30] partner with you, and we're going to do this if not.
[52:34] I mean, I don't know, logically, it would seem they would have way more activity being
[52:40] such a larger community.
[52:43] But.
[52:45] Well, they do have two full-time staff members that are called natural resource coordinators.
[52:51] So I do think they, at the staff level, they probably do just do a lot more environmental
[52:57] work themselves.
[52:58] So
[53:03] what do they, what do they have the task force for then if staff is doing the mission of their task force is to provide information and recommendations that count council regarding matters pertaining to environmental enhancement protection and preservation.
[53:19] The task force shall review and offer professional inciting guidance relative to proposed environmentally focused town initiatives and projects including formulation of a comprehensive
[53:30] of talent sustainability plan. So it looks like they really use them more to kind of vet
[53:37] environmental projects that they're doing, like that doc that I referenced, or they do
[53:43] stuff at Solfish Bay Park, or any park projects, it looks like they kind of use them in that way.
[53:51] So it's an advisory? Yeah, an advisory event, okay.
[53:57] One further input I had to was maybe it's
[54:00] good opportunity to kind of share some of the cool things that are happening into Quest
[54:05] that they may not be aware of.
[54:06] So Jupyter Narrows, what Sue's doing there, they may not really be even aware of it because
[54:11] it's technically not in their area.
[54:14] And then the DoverDitch project, you know, because it's on this side of the locks of Hatchee,
[54:20] I think Jupyter is a little more hands-off with things that are over here, doesn't feel
[54:24] like Jupyter to them.
[54:26] And so they may not even be fully aware of the DoverDitch project and kind of how cool
[54:30] that one is. We request Annex, they don't want to pay attention to them.
[54:39] But I think if we could share those, and then maybe also they could share with us, you know,
[54:45] because there's probably some projects that they're doing in Jupiter that we're not aware of.
[54:50] When I was looking at all the genders, there were some projects referenced that I'm not even familiar with, and I live in Jupiter.
[54:55] So maybe you got opportunity for us to just kind of share these things and then get some ideas from each other as well.
[55:05] All right, so there's a lot of ideas here.
[55:11] Do you want me and Jay and myself to kind of narrose things down and make it more of an agenda item thing and send it back out to you guys for comment before October 1st.
[55:26] I mean, I've got a ton of ideas here from you guys.
[55:33] All right.
[55:34] But I think what Michelle said is important.
[55:36] You can have a broad subject title.
[55:42] And when we're at that meeting with them,
[55:45] we can't necessarily dive into every single thing.
[55:48] But if it's on their bullet point wise,
[55:50] it helps where the speaker, whether it's you or whoever,
[55:54] they can just say, OK, well, there's this.
[55:56] But if you find some common, you get a lot of comments and time to just think that thought into people's heads.
[56:07] Okay. Anything else on this particular agenda item?
[56:14] Okay. Next agenda item, the Shredded Event on October 10th.
[56:22] All right. Chair Fries, I just have a quick update on this one.
[56:28] So, here's a flyer showing our previous shredded event.
[56:33] It was held April 11th, from 9 to 11 in the request of parking lot.
[56:39] We used to have these with our police department.
[56:41] It was an opportunity where the police department would do a coffee with a cop program.
[56:46] And the police department is now actually doing that at local coffee shops.
[56:50] So they're still doing that, but they're kind of separating out from the shredded event.
[56:54] and because of that the Village Manager thought it'd be a great opportunity to bring the EAC in.
[57:01] The event is October 10th, from 9 to 11. It's in the ToQuest the parking lot.
[57:06] We have pup cups, so people, if they bring their dogs, we've got treats for them.
[57:12] We'll still have coffee for them, and I think doughnuts as well.
[57:17] And then we would advertise that to come meet the EAC
[57:21] and learn about some of the cool environmental initiatives
[57:24] that are happening in the village of Equestop.
[57:28] I also invited the Jupiter Narrows Conservation Alliance
[57:32] and the Echo Scouts to come and hand out materials
[57:37] just to share what they're doing.
[57:38] They've been such good partners with us
[57:40] and I figured it would be more entertaining
[57:42] for people to talk to them as well.
[57:46] And so we are able to provide educational information
[57:49] at the meeting. One thing that the EC members have asked for in the past is kind of a table cover
[57:55] that we can use at meetings to kind of show. So we have a design in place with our new logo,
[58:03] which by the way, look at this new logo that Meg has created.
[58:09] She did it by hand. No AI assistance at all.
[58:17] But here's two examples of the table that we can order.
[58:21] So if you just let us know which one you'd prefer, we'll order that.
[58:25] And so we'll be able to have a table there and then put some informational material on
[58:29] the table for you to share to people that are stopping.
[58:33] So I guess the last thing would be what type of information would you want us to pull together
[58:38] to have at that table as kind of handouts and flyers to residents. One thing I
[58:44] thought of is tree protection and tree removal. A lot of residents in the
[58:50] single-family homes have, you know, they just, they don't even realize that you've
[58:53] got to, you have requirements for tree protection. I didn't hear that Tom. But it
[59:03] might be good opportunities to share with people to reach out to us before you
[59:06] trying to take a tree out.
[59:08] You know, we could share them our new living shorelines code.
[59:11] Yeah, maybe share the DoverDitch project,
[59:14] our new group, bringing building code,
[59:16] give them some updates on the JLo and a project,
[59:19] vertical oyster gardens,
[59:20] just all the things that are kind of out there.
[59:22] So if you let us know what you'd like us to focus on
[59:26] for materials, we can pull some stuff together
[59:29] before the meeting.
[59:30] I think Jolanda is a big one.
[59:35] overditch because it's so new.
[59:40] Who is giving optisan jalan to the public?
[59:43] Is it really up to kind of us in the town of Jupiter,
[59:46] or is it one, no?
[59:49] I'm sorry, is that?
[59:50] Who is giving optisan jalan to the public?
[59:53] So they're putting them out there, I think,
[59:55] in their own channels.
[59:58] But I think they're really...
[1:00:00] I think, like you said, Paul, Paul, table, who puts all the drone videos out. So I think they're using some of those people to put things out in local media. But we're happy to give updates as well.
[1:00:20] It's twice a year. So this one will probably be the only one we have before spring. No, November. Wait.
[1:00:32] October, October and October, right.
[1:00:34] Yeah, the last one was April.
[1:00:38] So at some point, I think it might be a good idea because we're having, there's been
[1:00:43] some, I don't want to say controversy.
[1:00:46] There's been some things going on with residents and planting things in the swell and the runoff.
[1:00:52] So I have just wondering if we need to put that as part of our education package at some
[1:00:57] point. You know we all get busy in the spring home depots crowded and we all want to plant plant plant plant plant well you
[1:01:05] know maybe some information on what not to plant and how to do it you know it might be good. That's a great
[1:01:11] suggestion. Mr. Chambers you okay with us doing that so we would we'd put something out about the new
[1:01:16] right away standards and you know recommendations and what they can plan good with it.
[1:01:25] Perfect. It's a great
[1:01:30] Well, it will be available by October 10th, your educational materials.
[1:01:36] Okay.
[1:01:37] Or anything that you might already have.
[1:01:39] It doesn't necessarily have to be totally updated, but something that we can have.
[1:01:45] And if anyone's mad about it, you just direct them right there.
[1:01:48] Doug Chambers, public works director.
[1:01:51] Oh, he's had enough emails.
[1:01:57] Just for the record in case it matters.
[1:02:00] the probability is high that I will not be here on October 10th and even if I
[1:02:06] am here on October 10th to quest the pines is having their annual street
[1:02:10] party that day and I'm president of HOA so I probably will not be here on
[1:02:18] that day. I'll be here. Anyone else? What time do you need us to get here? Do we need
[1:02:24] What do we need to do?
[1:02:26] I'll send out a reminder.
[1:02:29] We haven't gotten any logistics out yet.
[1:02:31] But yeah, probably 845, 9ish.
[1:02:34] We'll get here early.
[1:02:35] I was maybe going to be out of town,
[1:02:36] but I'm going to try and change my plans around.
[1:02:38] I know Meg will be there.
[1:02:40] Minimum, we both might be there.
[1:02:42] And then our clerk's office will be here as well.
[1:02:44] They're the ones handling the shredding.
[1:02:46] And then I think they have professionals
[1:02:48] that handle the shredding that come out as well.
[1:02:51] so we have tables are going to be set up for these other guests that we're
[1:02:54] having coming as well. We'll give them an opportunity to have a table if they
[1:02:59] come.
[1:03:01] And can I also suggest that we cancel our
[1:03:05] regularly scheduled October meeting since we'll have the shredded event and the
[1:03:08] Tana Drupeter meeting is everybody good with that? Yes. Yes. Much appreciated.
[1:03:18] All right, Jay, you're back up. Jupiter Nero's Conservation Alliance
[1:03:20] construction update. All right. So I've got an update on the Druper Nero's
[1:03:29] construction project but I've got a couple of cool videos to share with you. I
[1:03:33] don't know if anyone has seen this on our social media but we just posted it
[1:03:37] yesterday. It is a three-minute video here from from Sue Panella and the
[1:03:43] Druper Nero's about their project.
[1:04:13] up. And just like us, he's made our violence,
[1:04:18] but he hasn't had any change in it.
[1:04:20] Are we really good at these eye
[1:04:29] -to-corneros conservation lines with the bulls or
[1:04:32] sword and youth made our violence through our grassroots community and our
[1:04:35] effort. But it didn't start that way. About five years ago, I was looking at old photos
[1:04:41] from the 1990s, but these made groups of industry areas. What I saw,
[1:04:46] contrasting with what's out there,
[1:04:50] I can't believe how much you lost.
[1:04:52] I expect for half a century, swimming extraordinarily if howling around these neighborhood islands.
[1:04:58] I remember as a young girl, these lush, expansive, healthy neighborhoods,
[1:05:02] hanging with birds, and surrounded by marine life.
[1:05:05] The excitement of seeing an auntie were spotted in the way and never goes away.
[1:05:11] But I realized that if you let these neighborhoods go away, the wildlife that depends on
[1:05:18] you.
[1:05:18] So an execute phone calls, and folks from FDAC need a homie tiny urm came out, they
[1:05:23] snorkel the islands and they agree that this is a downloadable system that has been saved.
[1:05:28] They offered advice, but couldn't take the project down themselves.
[1:05:33] So I remember thinking,
[1:05:39] I was interviewed Mr. J. U.E. for a promotion of conservancy.
[1:05:42] He is a director, conservation, here in Florida.
[1:05:46] He got excited to partner with me, and that was engaged in.
[1:05:49] As soon as the passion and drive to get a project of this magnitude done,
[1:05:53] what a seed brings is the scientific expertise and the advocacy experience
[1:05:58] that we're across from this.
[1:05:59] We've got the boat weights in this area from increasing boat traffic
[1:06:03] and larger boats is really disturbing the bottom, especially the same bottom
[1:06:08] that the home of the native seed grasses that are so important to the area.
[1:06:12] Seed grasses is really important to this type of habitat
[1:06:15] and it's a big leader intertwined with the role of Negro Houghton.
[1:06:19] We will do the solution simple.
[1:06:21] We want to say a lot of the area about placing lives of brickwalkers along 14 of each of these islands.
[1:06:27] And when we do that, we create conditions for sea grass to thrive.
[1:06:30] And the main roles that we're going to be playing can really flourish and bring wildlife back to the habitat.
[1:06:37] The main role for me only once is extending our reach.
[1:06:40] The entire chief executive community is to study up to fund and support this issue.
[1:06:46] I mean, in a sense, the community that's rooted here is the one that's paying for them in the next generation.
[1:06:53] James C.A. is a trailblazing example of the grassroots organization stepping in to make a real difference.
[1:07:00] This project is a model for other communities and private landowners to demonstrate how bottom-up efforts can really get us.
[1:07:28] So they are actually at the finish line now. So the project is going to happen. They are starting construction very soon. They had a kickoff event last month. It was really well attended.
[1:07:42] We had Mayor Young gave a great speech, they had Senator Harrell, a few other dignitaries
[1:07:51] there, a really great kickoff event.
[1:07:53] And so they are going to mobilize on September 16th.
[1:07:56] They're going to install their turbidity curtain on September 21st.
[1:07:59] And they're going to start rock placement on September 22nd.
[1:08:04] So imminent.
[1:08:05] and Sue is expecting them to move relatively fast
[1:08:09] and potentially be done by late to mid-Octo November.
[1:08:14] So this project's gonna happen quickly.
[1:08:16] It's very exciting.
[1:08:18] What's the date that Peter gave us on December 20th
[1:08:22] for the Jupiter Narrows begins?
[1:08:23] Is that another phase?
[1:08:26] I think he meant North of Cato's bridge.
[1:08:29] Yeah, I think the contractor is doing the current project
[1:08:34] Then they're going to do the Jupyter Narrows and then when they're going to Jupyter Narrows then they move across
[1:08:40] to the the project on the north side of Kato's bridge into Cuesta on the west side.
[1:08:49] So once they install the brake water, they're going to replenish the mangroves and that is a little areas.
[1:08:54] Then they'll replant the mangroves and I think I'm not positive. They're going to do Seagrass Restoration
[1:09:00] but I think they may be doing seagrass restoration as well or the hope is that the seagrass just,
[1:09:05] you know, comes back on its own. I think it did in gelona.
[1:09:12] It's hard to plant, but it comes back
[1:09:14] naturally. I think, yeah. I think good to show that video to the Jupiter task force because I think
[1:09:22] one of the comments we received from the board today, this board today was they may not even know
[1:09:28] about this project. Yeah that's great. It's really well done. It has their name on it.
[1:09:36] Yeah I'd be good on our social media. It was posted yesterday on our social media and
[1:09:41] has about 27 likes, which is like slightly above average. Yeah. So it's been it's being seen.
[1:09:47] So if you see if you are on our social media like it, share it. Yeah. Check it out. I did.
[1:09:53] I did want to tell the EAC the following that Sue and Tom Heller, I think his last name
[1:10:04] is, they reached out to me five, four years ago, I forgot exactly what, they needed help
[1:10:14] with the application that they had to submit and I spent hours with them helping them with
[1:10:23] the content that they needed relative to the sequester area. So the conservation element
[1:10:32] of the sequester comprehensive plan was all throughout the application to let them know,
[1:10:40] to let FDEP, wherever they made this decision, know that sequester's comprehensive plan would
[1:10:53] facilitate this sort of thing and so I just thought y'all should know that
[1:10:59] because it was a major undertaking and it ended up being successful to get
[1:11:05] the permit. Yeah and we did win a grant with them back in 2024 but when President
[1:11:13] Trump started his new election he put a freeze on all federal funding of
[1:11:16] project so our grant that we won with them got kind of nullified but but we put
[1:11:22] together a good grant and then we also just cut them a check for $5,000 as a
[1:11:28] support of the project which we could as a village give more money but we did
[1:11:33] contribute a little bit financially to it as well.
[1:11:40] Anything else on on this
[1:11:42] No. Okay. Alright, so a new business. So from time to time, as I read, I come across something
[1:11:51] I think would be of interest to the AC. And this was one of those. I hope everyone
[1:11:58] had an opportunity to read that memo. So they're looking, they mean the state looking to establish
[1:12:08] something similar to the wildlife corridor that they currently have, which I guess to a certain degree was very successful or continues to be very successful.
[1:12:20] And they're going to now model that into coastal areas as well as the ocean. So they're going to establish a coastal corridor.
[1:12:33] and it sounds like it's fairly new. I think the first year was in, I think it was last year,
[1:12:44] I could be wrong, the year after that. But if you scroll down to the part that I highlighted,
[1:12:50] that's the part that kind of caught my eye. Future plans include exploring coastal restoration
[1:12:57] projects to help address beach erosion. Lots of coastal mangroves that protect against storm surge
[1:13:03] during tropical events and the reduction in natural food stocks is sustained declining
[1:13:07] species such as seagrass or mantis.
[1:13:10] So I think initially they started this coastal corridor out in the ocean but now it looks
[1:13:18] like in this next few years they just say future plans.
[1:13:25] They may be doing some things in the coastal areas which I know that we have discussed quite
[1:13:32] a bit in the committee and I thought that would be of interest for everyone to see. I was not aware
[1:13:38] of the coastal corridor idea and so I this is a recent article and I thought you guys would be
[1:13:46] interested in seeing it as well. When they say corridor specific
[1:13:55] corridor or the entire
[1:14:00] So, yeah, well, the wildlife corridor project, I know just a little bit about it, they were
[1:14:05] trying to find very special habitats and connect them together so that, for instance, Florida
[1:14:13] Panthers would maybe have like a bridged area where they could, you could kind of connect
[1:14:20] all these things.
[1:14:20] So I believe the goal here is to connect special, you know, special parts of where there's
[1:14:27] coastal ecology that's unique, which we happen out of Coralcove.
[1:14:32] We've got J. Lona, so I assume they're going to try and link some of those things together.
[1:14:38] Could you be linking J. Lona with peanut island, I mean, and, you know, Phil Foster Bridge,
[1:14:45] So definitely some opportunities there.
[1:14:52] If you see what Lake, we could reach out to FWC or FWFF and try and get more information.
[1:15:00] And see if we can have a speaker come dig into it a little bit further. I think it'd be a great idea. Yeah. That's a great fine, Mr. Freeze. Thank you. That's it. That's what I wanted to bring it to your attention. It wasn't, it wasn't clear to me, though, in terms of what they want to do. Is it, is it designed to restore and protect habitat and or is it designed to
[1:15:29] to attract, let's call it environmental tourism,
[1:15:33] whatever you want to do.
[1:15:34] Both, I think.
[1:15:35] Or is it both?
[1:15:36] It is both.
[1:15:36] It says featuring projects, including habitat restoration,
[1:15:40] fisheries enhancement, and improved public access,
[1:15:44] and coastal resilience, so all of it basically.
[1:15:48] So it could be a conflict, right?
[1:15:52] You bring more people, is that create more damage to the environment?
[1:15:58] It's kind of what I'm getting yet, I don't know.
[1:16:01] Like Jolona had to go through, right?
[1:16:03] Yeah, same balance of providing both.
[1:16:06] But I'd love to have somebody come to me.
[1:16:09] Yeah, I think that's a great idea too.
[1:16:13] I don't know if we'll be able to get someone to speak,
[1:16:15] but we could certainly find more information about it
[1:16:19] and report that back to you.
[1:16:20] So we'll try to come on there.
[1:16:22] Yeah, well, I mean, we'll try.
[1:16:24] We'll try to try to, for sure.
[1:16:26] Now I get it, people are busy.
[1:16:30] All right, you know the discussion on this
[1:16:33] No, thank you for bringing it to our attention. So you're welcome. And by the way if anyone
[1:16:39] Comes across something of interest. Do you think the HC would you know send it?
[1:16:45] Included on the agenda and or just send it to all of our email addresses and it gives us a heads up
[1:16:53] All right, so that's it for our regular agenda any
[1:17:00] Comments from Kidmini members, future agenda items, anything else you want to discuss while we're here because we're we can only discuss together one time a month.
[1:17:08] The idea of the issue of artificial turf has that been addressed very much. I see more and more advertisements for artificial turf. I hear rumblings from neighbors and just people in the community that are putting artificial turf in and how much they can put in.
[1:17:30] And I'm very confused about that.
[1:17:33] And I don't know if it is an issue, or maybe it's not.
[1:17:36] We have an ordinance, right?
[1:17:38] This is a funky one.
[1:17:40] So we adopted an artificial turf ordinance a couple
[1:17:43] of years ago, and it limited the amount of artificial turf
[1:17:46] you can put in.
[1:17:47] Also, artificial turf is not allowed in the right way,
[1:17:50] and has not been allowed in the right way for some time.
[1:17:55] But the state in the most recent legislative session
[1:17:59] this past spring, made new laws that says that municipalities cannot prohibit artificial
[1:18:06] turf on single-family lots that are smaller than one acre.
[1:18:10] So we had to go back and essentially amend our code, our artificial turf code, to exempt
[1:18:19] properties that are under one acre.
[1:18:22] So you may see more artificial turf out there in the community.
[1:18:26] This, they did create some environmental standards in there, for instance, you can't have artificial
[1:18:33] turf within 10 feet of a water body or a seawall, so that the artificial turf isn't flowing
[1:18:39] right into water bodies, so they did a few things like that.
[1:18:43] They said that artificial turf can't have PFAS in it, don't they all come back to the
[1:18:51] I think there are some that are environmentally friendly and don't have, there's a very specific substance that they quoted that you're not allowed to have.
[1:19:03] So then from a regulatory perspective, the village just defaults to the state.
[1:19:11] Had legally have to, we'd get sued if we were in contradiction to it.
[1:19:15] If you'd like to, I can give you a more detailed update on that at the next meeting.
[1:19:21] I guess that'll be in November, but I can bring that forward to you.
[1:19:25] So you know the specifics, probably good to know, as environmental leaders in the community
[1:19:31] if people are asking you.
[1:19:38] Anything else?
[1:19:39] Anything else from anyone on?
[1:19:41] All right.
[1:19:43] And I looked this up after the last meeting.
[1:19:45] We don't need to vote to adjourn the meeting.
[1:19:47] I thought we did.
[1:19:48] you looked it up I looked it up Robert's Rules of Order so I can I can adjourn the meeting
[1:19:55] unless we don't complete all of our agenda and you want to leave early then it has to
[1:20:03] go to a majority vote okay so I'll adjourn the meeting.
[1:20:11] Oh
[1:20:15] yeah, which which one number one is that the one to the side with the logo of the
[1:20:24] That's number one.
[1:20:25] Yeah.
[1:20:25] One for that one is the two.
[1:20:27] I like this.