1
00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:24,000
Missioner powers had some illness, it was in the hospital and I don't know if he may be able, maybe he may be able to, okay.

2
00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,000
Okay.

3
00:00:54,000 --> 00:01:20,000
Everybody online, if you can hear me, if you're here to speak it open mic, if you could raise the little hand icon and I'm going to try to do keep it in order.

4
00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:36,000
Okay, both commissions are here, we're going to call the meeting to order and it is December 8th and this is a regular commissioners meeting.

5
00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:41,000
If you would first stand and join me in the pledge of allegiance.

6
00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:39,000
Attention, item 13.1 has been postponed, item let's see 13.7, this was posted incorrectly, well not incorrectly, it was posted online as such it didn't make the written one that was posted.

7
00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:49,000
So because of that, so there's no confusion that we are going to not hear this today and move it to a following agenda.

8
00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,000
Likewise, on not likewise, but similar.

9
00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:03,000
Where is the hospital?

10
00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,000
Does that help? Okay, thank you.

11
00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,000
13.2.

12
00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:25,000
13.2 is an action item for an offspring landing subdivision final plot as we've looked through our records we haven't.

13
00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:34,000
We haven't seen that we've even heard that yet, so there is really no reason for a.

14
00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:59,000
Wait, I'm sorry, on this agenda, it says it's a action item for the final plot on another on another one, it says it's a request for an extension.

15
00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:15,000
So because of the confusion and because there's no terrible big rush on this, we're going to repost that one for a future meeting also I hope that doesn't inconvenience anybody too terribly bad, but.

16
00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:24,000
With history and everything when there's conflicts on the agenda, I want to be sure we're done things right so there's no ones.

17
00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,000
I've been missing.

18
00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,000
The last thing I want to change on the agenda is because there's so much.

19
00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,000
Interesting.

20
00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,000
The.

21
00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,000
Oh.

22
00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,000
There will be a person.

23
00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,000
The.

24
00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,000
Here, we want to hear.

25
00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,000
The thing from the sheriff's department and legal on the.

26
00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:02,000
Coffee in that we're going to move that up to the front of the agenda.

27
00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:10,000
Let the prosecution and the sheriff's department if they want to make their presentation.

28
00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:20,000
So you can understand it better and then we'll have the public comment and I think that's the wisest thing to do so with that said.

29
00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,000
Is there a motion to adopt the agenda.

30
00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:32,000
Okay, all second that if it's it's been moving second all in favor.

31
00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,000
I.

32
00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,000
Okay, motion carries.

33
00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:42,000
All right, then the next item will be right quickly is the consent agenda.

34
00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:47,000
There's a claim reports and payroll forms, certificates or residency.

35
00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:52,000
And liquor license approval for T Tom Valley balloon rally.

36
00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:57,000
If everyone's had a chance to look at these are there any questions.

37
00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,000
On the consent agenda.

38
00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,000
Okay.

39
00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:08,000
Commissioner James, just so you know you are muted right now.

40
00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,000
Okay.

41
00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,000
There is.

42
00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:24,000
If there's no questions on the consent agenda, I'll make a motion to approve the consent agenda.

43
00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:29,000
Okay, moving second any further discussion.

44
00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,000
No, I'm good.

45
00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,000
Okay, all in favor, aye.

46
00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,000
Aye.

47
00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,000
All right, so that's something.

48
00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,000
Okay.

49
00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,000
You're you're you're live.

50
00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,000
Okay, give me a minute.

51
00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,000
Commissioner powers on board.

52
00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,000
Yes. Okay.

53
00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,000
If you want out of battery, I think we're okay.

54
00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,000
Commissioner James.

55
00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,000
Okay.

56
00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,000
If you keep I will.

57
00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,000
Go charge your phone.

58
00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,000
All right.

59
00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,000
All right, where are we at?

60
00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:23,000
I can't find.

61
00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,000
No point one.

62
00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,000
Maybe.

63
00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,000
Yeah, 12 point one is the best.

64
00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,000
Thank you.

65
00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:39,000
So let's move to item 12.1, which is.

66
00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,000
The delinquents juvenile ordinance 25, 2025,

67
00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,000
1208 and asked either.

68
00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,000
Client and or.

69
00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,000
Bailey to.

70
00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,000
We are doing public.

71
00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,000
We're going to do it after they've had their presentation.

72
00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,000
So you can you can hear from them before you make your public comments.

73
00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,000
My.

74
00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,000
Okay, no, but we will, we will have public right after this.

75
00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:08,000
So.

76
00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,000
Go ahead, Bailey.

77
00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,000
We're both again.

78
00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,000
Yes, that's fine.

79
00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:23,000
I do want to say it's been brought to my attention.

80
00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,000
It's been brought to this is a Bailey Smith ordinance.

81
00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,000
Just just just just in fairness.

82
00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,000
This is.

83
00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,000
I'm just learning as much about it.

84
00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,000
I saw for the first time on Saturday.

85
00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:43,000
So this has been a collaborative thing between the sheriff's department and the prosecution.

86
00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,000
It wasn't one person who decided to write it.

87
00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,000
It was a need that came up.

88
00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:56,000
And so with that said, I'm going to give them the opportunity to explain where their where their basis came from.

89
00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,000
Thank you, Brad can get here.

90
00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,000
Yeah, barely.

91
00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,000
Is it.

92
00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,000
Hello.

93
00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,000
I'm picking up okay.

94
00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,000
I can just talk if it's picking up okay.

95
00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,000
I hear you, but I don't know if they online does.

96
00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,000
Yeah, I can hear you, but not great.

97
00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,000
Okay.

98
00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,000
Well, they're doing that.

99
00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,000
I will say that.

100
00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,000
Dan Ray is on vacation also.

101
00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:48,000
So we're we're living along and I apologize for the confusion of the agenda.

102
00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,000
And we have people doing it.

103
00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,000
We don't normally do it trying to collaborate and get it done.

104
00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,000
But we'll get through it and we'll do the best we can.

105
00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,000
Awesome.

106
00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,000
Well, feel free to stop me if anyone's having trouble hearing.

107
00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:08,000
But we're here today because this is the first real opportunity to discuss the proposed juvenile ordinances with you all.

108
00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,000
And we want to give you an overview of how they came about.

109
00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,000
Why why we think that they're needed.

110
00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,000
And how things would work if they are adopted.

111
00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,000
We actually already have a couple of proposed tweaks.

112
00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:30,000
And would encourage people including the the board to consider this an opportunity for discussion and input.

113
00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:35,000
Not, you know, this is the more more the beginning than the end of the process.

114
00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:43,000
And rather I just wanted to make clear that rather you might be wondering why I put this on your agenda for discussion rather than.

115
00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:48,000
Speaking with each of the commissioners individually before and is sometimes we do.

116
00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:56,000
And the reason for that is this is as I imagined is something that people might care greatly about.

117
00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:07,000
And we thought that it was important to be as transparent as possible and to do this in a public meeting so that the public in here, you know, kind of in real time when when you all are hearing.

118
00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,000
And it can be a very open process.

119
00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:22,000
So I'm sure that you the commissioners will have questions and we want to hear those and we want to allow you to allow you time to discuss and want to allow you time to take public comment.

120
00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:30,000
But we have prepared a brief overview of some things that I think are going to address a lot of your questions and concerns.

121
00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:39,000
And I know that they're going to address some of the confusion that I know has been circulating so let me just give you a quick roadmap of what I'd like to go over.

122
00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:45,000
I'd like to clarify a few misconceptions that I understand are circulating.

123
00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:50,000
I'd like to give a little bit of an explanation as to how the draft language came about.

124
00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:58,000
I'd like to go through a couple of examples of recurring situations that the ordinances are meant to address.

125
00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:06,000
I'll go into a little more depth on the curfew ordinance as opposed to the other two because that seems to be the source of most confusion and angst.

126
00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:16,000
And then after I'm done, I will pass the mic along this way to let Sheriff Flimo and deputy prosecutor Godbury Godbury say some things that are important.

127
00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:25,000
They're going to touch on things like law enforcement priorities and use of time, officer discretion, prosecutorial discretion and the ability to decline.

128
00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:38,000
Charges and what safeguards are in place to basically help people understand, you know, all the ways that we can be confident that this is going to be used in a good, helpful, proactive way rather than a detrimental to the community.

129
00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,000
Okay, so let me start with clarifying some of the misconceptions.

130
00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:50,000
Let me start with the elephant in the room that seems to be the biggest misconception of all.

131
00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:59,000
None of the three draft ordinances, the runaway, young control of parents or curfew provisions authorize arrest of any sort.

132
00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:11,000
I understand that that is not obvious to those of you who are not, you know, very well acquainted with the intricacies of juvenile law, so I will just repeat it again to be clear.

133
00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:24,000
None of the three ordinances authorize arrest, not as kids, not of parents and no one in law enforcement or the prosecutor's office has any desire or intent to make arrest based on these things.

134
00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:44,000
The curfew ordinance is not even criminal, it is civil, so even in a situation where a violation notice would be issued and we'll touch on this later, but we expect that they would be quite rare.

135
00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:51,000
The maximum possible or anification would be a ticket, not an arrest or jail or anything like that.

136
00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,000
So again, no arrests.

137
00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:02,000
Lastly, and I'll let the sheriff do most of the talking on this, but just know upfront that none of, you know,

138
00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:13,000
Enforcement and prosecution of these things is by no means a law enforcement or prosecution priority in the sense that officers aren't going to be sent out to looking for these things.

139
00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:22,000
There are tools that we expect would be used rarely to deal with rare but difficult and serious situations that occasionally come up from time to time.

140
00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:49,000
And to be clear, these kinds of situations, and I'll give you a couple of examples of their situations that law enforcement is already getting called out to deal with, so it's not like this is proposing them going out to address situations they haven't already been addressing it's quite the opposite is actually giving them a better tool to deal with the situation they're already out addressing and just not very well equipped to handle.

141
00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:59,000
So I'll go into the curfew ordinance and more depth, but one of the main.

142
00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:29,000
Benefits of it, is it gives officers the ability to address problematic situations that, you know, from their experience, they can see or quickly devolving into something that has the potential to be criminal that, you know, if something isn't done it, kids are going to be involved in a criminal offense, it gives them the ability to address that as an infraction and is sort of preventative manner before the situation develops into actual criminal conduct that they have to handle as such as crimes.

143
00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:34,000
If it do involve, you know, or can involve being taken into custody, et cetera.

144
00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:46,000
And lastly, I don't need to give you an encyclopedia on how juvenile matters work, but just for the sake of clarity, juvenile court is very different than adult court.

145
00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:58,000
It's not a big public proceeding. They are private, confidential. It's better thought of as, you know, almost a meeting between the judge, the prosecutor, the kid, and the parents.

146
00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:11,000
So just for reference, even the misdemeanor ordinances, the runaway and beyond the control of parent, don't result in kids getting hauled into adult criminal court or traffic court even or anything like that.

147
00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:26,000
So next, in terms of how the proposed language came about, the discussion first began because a couple of months ago this Supreme Court issued new guidance to the courts.

148
00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:36,000
The determined that the state statute regarding juvenile status offenses and for reference that's Idaho code 2516.

149
00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:49,000
That's the one that covers runaway, around the control of parent and curfew violations is merely an enabling statute that allows counties to pass their own ordinances.

150
00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:58,000
But that prosecutors can no longer charge directly under the state statute as had been a common practice historically.

151
00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:02,000
In many, many counties in Idaho, not just T-thon.

152
00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:14,000
But so as such, when that guidance came out, the prosecutors' office can no longer charge things that we have historically had the ability to charge directly under state code.

153
00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:24,000
And so that's where we started looking at, okay, well, it's real easy to just say let's duplicate what we had to maintain the status quo.

154
00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:39,000
And for reference, the runaway and beyond the control of parents, that's really what those two proposed ordinances do is they maintain the status quo, they maintain the law enforcement, the same law enforcement and prosecution capabilities that have long long existed.

155
00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:44,000
It's just now would now be codified under county code rather than a state code.

156
00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:51,000
And then, but when we were talking about it, well, while we're putting this in front of the commissioners, let's think critically about this.

157
00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:57,000
And there are some situations that are difficult that law enforcement doesn't have great capabilities to deal with.

158
00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:04,000
So let's let's put this all before the board at the same time, so they can consider, consider whether they want to do a curfew.

159
00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:11,000
And everyone can talk about the, here's the benefits, here's the drawbacks and let's discuss it all at the same time.

160
00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:19,000
So yeah, as I think you actually even already pointed out, this was a collaborative process between the prosecutor's office and law enforcement.

161
00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:24,000
And now what we want it to be a collaborative process, you know, involving the board and the public.

162
00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:29,000
So that's how we ended up here and that's where we are today.

163
00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:36,000
I'm not going to spend a great deal of time going over the first two, the runaway or beyond the control of parent ordinances.

164
00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:51,000
As I said, just before these are, these are things that are all historically had long been charged under state code, so that it's not really a change in terms of what law enforcement or prosecution would be doing.

165
00:18:51,000 --> 00:19:12,000
These things don't get used all that often, but I do want to be clear they do get used and when they get used it's almost always at the request of parents who will call in to law enforcement and ask for assistance with a situation with their kid.

166
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:19,000
Okay, so let me just jump into the curfew ordinance, I understand there's a good deal of confusion and concern about it.

167
00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:29,000
So as I said, this is the curfew ordinance is proposed as one way to deal with a couple of such situations.

168
00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:44,000
People may or may not be aware, but it's, it would be new to take on county, but it's not novel in the sense that many, many cities and a number of counties have curfew, so it's not something that we made up.

169
00:19:44,000 --> 00:20:13,000
And the draft language that we have, we actually arrived at by collecting, you know, the ordinances that are on the books and other jurisdictions and Idaho and looking at them and seeing, you know, what's clear, what's confusing, what's enforceable and basically combining the best versions of the language with some safeguard language into what's the proposed draft.

170
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:28,000
I know one of the concerns are, you know, how do we know that, you know, that isn't going to be abused, that it's, you know, law enforcement isn't going to write 300 curfew tickets a night, you know, if, I don't know, because the KN, if their situation arises.

171
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:33,000
And I mean, I think one of the, my first gut reactions is, well, I'll, I'll let's share talk about that.

172
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:45,000
That's my first reaction, but, but beyond that, it's important to point out that they're common in other cities and they're not a hot topic because they aren't being widely abused.

173
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:56,000
You don't, you know, you're not hearing people city goers up and arms because the bunch of kids are being ticketed and when their parents don't appreciate it. It's, it's not being widely abused and that's a good sign.

174
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:09,000
I think there's also some confusion because I think a lot of people have heard about the, the general proposal without actually seeing the language and the language itself.

175
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:23,000
Well, if you read past the first sentence or two anyways, clarifies that there's a whole lot of carve outs for behavior that no one has any interest in the curfew applying to carve outs for things that no one wants to meddle in basically.

176
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:33,000
So for example, if you read all the way through the language, the rule wouldn't be that, you know, kids are prohibited from being out after midnight.

177
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:45,000
The rule is, you know, that they are would be prohibited from being out without parental permission or supervision largely in situations that are going to be dangerous or harmful.

178
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:59,000
So, for example, the individual carve outs that are already in the proposed language are, you know, any juvenile accompanied by a parent or other adult, chaperone, you know, totally fine.

179
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:14,000
Kids on any private property, totally fine. Kids coming or going from any school event, totally fine. Kids going somewhere because their parents told them to or gave them permission to totally fine.

180
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:23,000
Kids going to and from work. These are all carve outs for things that would very clearly not be what this is intended to target.

181
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:38,000
And I actually have two additional safeguards that I'd like to pose now for your consideration. One is a carve out for any juvenile leaving a home to escape a abusive or in any way dangerous situation.

182
00:22:38,000 --> 00:23:05,000
Like, if you have a kid who, you know, smells a gas leak and runs out of their house and is in the street at 2 a.m., officers are obviously not going to cite them. The curfew violation and, you know, that would seem obvious to officers, but, and I haven't, you know, I'm hitting the sheriff without notice on this one, but I would be almost certain they're going to support a carve out for that and, you know, no officers going to cite a kid that's, you know, escaping an abusive situation at home.

183
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:10,000
You know, the officers are going to be the safe even providing help, not saying, here's your ticket.

184
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:31,000
And I also think that it would be worth considering a mandatory warning provision because, frankly, I don't let the sheriff talk about this later, I think that the most common, by and large use of the curfew ordinance would be, to issue warnings. It would give the officers the ability to say, you know, I see this situation getting out of hand. I think this is getting dangerous.

185
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:41,000
You need to go home and it's, it's not just a suggestion, it's just not, it's not my personal view, you need to go home or this could be considered a curfew violation.

186
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:53,000
But I think a mandatory warning provision and again, I haven't discussed that with the sheriff, but I, I would suggest it be considered and I would imagine they would fully or at least support that too.

187
00:23:53,000 --> 00:24:10,000
I said this before, but one key benefit of the curfew ordinance is that it gives law enforcement the ability to address a problematic situation before it becomes criminal, because, you know, of course officers can charge kids that they see committing crimes, that's obvious.

188
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:22,000
But they don't have a breed ability other than making polite suggestions to try to prevent situations that they clearly see going poorly before they actually turn criminal.

189
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:35,000
It also allows officers to tell parents who openly voiced that they don't care if their kids are in a dangerous or potentially criminal situation, which, you know, might strike people is like, what do you mean?

190
00:24:35,000 --> 00:25:00,000
That actually comes up and it's sad and surprising and frankly, I wouldn't have, I would have had a hard time believing that that happened, that happens in a recurring manner, but there are parents that say whether out of frustration or just giving up with a problem kid that, I don't know where my kid is, it's, I don't care throughout a night, I don't care who they're with and I don't care what they're doing.

191
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:15,000
And that is a really difficult situation for law enforcement to deal with, because at that point, they're not a runaway, they're not out of control if their parents are saying they don't care, they're just out unsupervised and in a really vulnerable position.

192
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:25,000
So the chair will probably have more to add to this, but let me just give you two common situations that we see recurring here.

193
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:38,000
One, I think probably the most common, is a situation whether there's a group of juveniles playing night aims, which, you know, when done in an appropriate safe manner is awesome and great, good clean fun.

194
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:56,000
But there can be situations where it starts to get out of hand, like, for example, what starts as a game of, you know, chase or tag on foot turns into tag via automobiles chasing each other, driving recklessly, you know, kids hanging out windows, what have you.

195
00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:14,000
Or, you know, running around and playing chase on private property or, like, one person's yard turns into spanning a whole neighborhood and you have kids hopping fences into neighboring properties, you know, scaring people, you know, homeowners that look out and don't know what's going on.

196
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:20,000
Occasionally damaging things, usually accidentally, but sometimes things get broken.

197
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:36,000
It's not hard to imagine a situation, you know, a homeowner doesn't know what's going on, sees people running around, wearing black and his backyard and comes out with a gun, you can see really quickly how it could become dangerous and unexpected and bad ways.

198
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:46,000
So, to be clear, the sheriff's office gets caught out frequently for things like that, but the problem is currently is they don't really have a great way to deal with it.

199
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:59,000
Like they show up in a neighborhood and see kids out and about in the street and they can encourage them to, you know, stay on one property, you know, go home would have you, but like they're just suggestions and kids know that kids are smart.

200
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,000
They, you know, thank you officer, but I'm going to continue doing whatever I was doing.

201
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:33,000
So, yeah, a lot of times in those situations the officers doesn't really have the ability to act until something criminal actually happens, so they will literally have to sit there and wait until there's, you know, they see kids trust passing, you know, they see the fence getting hopped or they see the cars driving recklessly and then you're in the criminal realm where kids are getting criminal charges.

202
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:48,000
And it would be beneficial from our perspective to give the officers a tool in situations such as that to tell kids, okay, this is getting out of hand, you need to go home and have a more than a suggestion.

203
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,000
The second situation.

204
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:59,000
And again, I think this is one that I would have had a hard time even realizing or believing exist before having a front row seat to see it happen.

205
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:10,000
Is it a 14, or 15 year old girl will leave home in the middle of the night to meet an older male for a romantic encounter, whether that beach.

206
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:19,000
She intends to have sex or she intends something less than that and the male might have other desires.

207
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,000
Sometimes it's the girls or sometimes it's a boy for that matter.

208
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:28,000
I'm just, I don't mean to generalize. I'm just giving, I had the medical sometimes.

209
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:38,000
Sometimes, you know, the the child that snuck out the parents don't know and you know if they knew would of course handle it.

210
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:55,000
But as I said before, sometimes the parents are aware and just for one reason or another don't deal with it.

211
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:59,000
So it's similarly to the officer that's, you know, encounters the group of kids.

212
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:12,000
If one of the provisions in the curfew ordinance authorizes, you know, at least if the extreme ends to issue a ticket to a parent who fails to, you know,

213
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,000
who permits basically who authorizes their kid to violate curfew.

214
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:22,000
And so this would give the officers the chief to have the conversation, the tough conversation with those parents to say,

215
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:28,000
you know, I know parenting's really tough and you might feel frustrated, but you can't just throw up your hands and say you're not going to try.

216
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:36,000
You have to care, you have to try because if not, there could be, you know, you could get a ticket for allowing your kid to, to violate curfew.

217
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:45,000
That way it's not just them pleading or suggesting to the parents that they try to help, you know, monitor where their kids are and keep them out of dangerous situations.

218
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:59,000
So I talked at you a lot. I think that covers most of the big pieces, but I'm going to pass them like this way on the table and let's share a speak and then deputy prosecutor Godfrey has a few things to say.

219
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:29,000
So then thank you. So thank you. The process here pretty much covered everything I was going to cover, but just a kind of reiterate, I could, when it came to us and asked us about this, the curfew, I was thinking about how it could be implemented. And the way I see it being most commonly used is one for night games. We get multiple calls every time they have them.

220
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:38,000
And as the night goes on, the behavior gets more reckless and we get calls of people running on top of cars in the beds of trucks, running stop signs, things like that.

221
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:51,000
And so as she said, we can shut that down before it gets to that point if it's past midnight and the kids are starting to get reckless. And it's not every time, but I would say almost every time we get calls that that happens when they do their night games.

222
00:30:51,000 --> 00:31:01,000
The other instance I think it would be helpful is in preventing, she talked about the young juveniles that are meeting with older adults.

223
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:13,000
Right now, we don't really have anything we can do, say we pull over a car for a traffic violation. And there's a young female in the passenger seat with an adult male who's not her family member.

224
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:27,000
Unless there's something pretty obvious we can't really dig further without delaying the stop. But now that there's a curfew violation in place, potentially it gives us a sound opportunity to start asking questions and make sure the parents know who their child is with and what they're doing.

225
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:37,000
So that's where I see it becoming most pretty useful as well as in on those encounters. It's not like deputies are going out and looking for juveniles that are violating curfew.

226
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:49,000
It's either we're already called there from a parent or from a neighbor for an issue that's going on or we come across them in the course of some of their performance of our duties.

227
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:54,000
That's where I see it being most helpful is preventing those things from going further.

228
00:31:55,000 --> 00:32:10,000
We have parents like she said that unfortunately don't don't care so much for whatever that reason is and if they're not reported this a runaway and they're not disobeying their parents or our hands are tied.

229
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:25,000
So we let them go knowing they're just going to keep going down and escalating their behavior potentially to where crimes can be committed and we're just letting it happen because there's nothing we can tell them like hey you need to go home or you'll receive a curfew violation.

230
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:35,000
So I don't think there's been people that have brought up that it could be abused and I guess potentially anything could be abused.

231
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:45,000
That's not what we see commonly in most of the apartments I've worked at they've had curfews for the cities there.

232
00:32:45,000 --> 00:33:01,000
We're shoulder in several other cities in the area and mostly if ever I think there's been warnings if even those so it's it's not something we look at we're going to be using often but it's a nice tool to have when we come across those situations so.

233
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:17,000
Hi my name's Ryan Gottfried I'm a newly hired prosecutor and Teton County but as probably tell by my gray hair this isn't my first rodeo.

234
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:26,000
I have been a prosecutor now for 17 years and just newly hired here in Teton County.

235
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:46,000
I think maybe I can emphasize even stronger than than Bailey did this up until two months ago was state code this was part of the state code this was something that has been charged for my entire 17 year careers prosecutor and other counties.

236
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:55,000
Up until two months ago in the Supreme Court I was Supreme Court told us that this was only an enabling statute that only allowed.

237
00:33:55,000 --> 00:34:12,000
Municipalities and counties to enact the statute did this become a problem that this become a concern because Teton County didn't have a statute didn't have a beyond parental control statute didn't have a runaway statute didn't have a curfew statute.

238
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:21,000
And so only two months ago has this become a concern we are no longer able to use state code.

239
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:39,000
And they make that clear we're no longer able to use state code for runaway beyond parental and curfew so there must and I'll say that as strong as I can there must be a county code for beyond parental control and runway.

240
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:45,000
Up to you whether you enforce or enact a curfew statute.

241
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,000
Let me also say that this is a tool that law enforcement needs.

242
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,000
They need to have this tool be effective here in Teton County.

243
00:34:53,000 --> 00:35:01,000
We have parents that want to have these tools we have parents that need these tools.

244
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,000
Let me portray a typical scenario.

245
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,000
Parent is having a huge discussion with their teenager.

246
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:18,000
Whether it's about their bad grades or whether about they play video games too much or in the scenario that Bailey gave it's a boyfriend and they don't approve of.

247
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,000
They argue they yell.

248
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:31,000
The child is very out of order beyond the parental control that the parent tells the child you will obey my rules while you live in my house.

249
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,000
I'm sure we all heard this arguing match we can all hear during our heads.

250
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:45,000
The child then takes them up on their offer and says all right I don't want to live in your house anymore and walks out the front door with a backpack full of things.

251
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,000
What do parents?

252
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,000
What tools do parents have at this point to combat this problem?

253
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,000
What do they do?

254
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,000
They call 911 they call law enforcement.

255
00:35:55,000 --> 00:36:00,000
Right now right today there is no tool that law enforcement can use.

256
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,000
Short of a criminal act that is done by the child.

257
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:10,000
Whether they trespass whether they break something you know maliciously destroyed property or something else.

258
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:14,000
There's no tool that law enforcement has right now today in Teton County.

259
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:19,000
For that child simply being beyond control of their parent and running away.

260
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,000
Nothing right now today.

261
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:25,000
Let's try and make that as clear as I can.

262
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:29,000
So what do the parent calls 911?

263
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,000
The law enforcement officer what can they do?

264
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:37,000
They can strongly encourage the child to return to their parent's home and be in the control of their parent.

265
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:41,000
The parent.

266
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,000
My child is running away from home.

267
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,000
They're beyond my control.

268
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,000
They're out at night in the dark.

269
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,000
I don't know where they are.

270
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,000
I don't know where they're going.

271
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:54,000
All of these things are happening here in our county.

272
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:59,000
And we need to have the tools to be able to address it.

273
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:04,000
This is not a tool that's going to be abused by law enforcement.

274
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,000
There's a lot of talk I've read online about.

275
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,000
Don't law enforcement have better things to do.

276
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:18,000
Well I hope that those same people are not saying that the safety of our children is not a priority.

277
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:23,000
I hope that they're not saying that because the safety of our children must be our highest priority.

278
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:28,000
And so this is the tool to be able to do that.

279
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:35,000
I've heard people online say why not make a statute to protect the 14-year-old girl that's going out with the adult male.

280
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,000
Well we can't make a statute that discriminates based on age.

281
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,000
Can't make a statute that discriminates based on gender.

282
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,000
So those statutes are prohibited.

283
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:49,000
We can make statutes that say you can't be out beyond your parental control.

284
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:56,000
We can't make statutes that say you can't be out after midnight.

285
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,000
And let's share with your parents or with your parents.

286
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,000
Or all the carbouts that are in the statute.

287
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:08,000
If you carefully read the statute, there are carbouts for public.

288
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,000
Okay? Public round.

289
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,000
A carbout can't be addressed.

290
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,000
If you're with your parents, with your coast custodian.

291
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,000
If you're on an air and drifted by your parents,

292
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:22,000
if you're working, if you're coming back from a sport event from a school activity,

293
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:30,000
all of those things are carbouts in this statute.

294
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,000
But let's go big if.

295
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,000
Big if law enforcement starts abusing this statute.

296
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,000
Not going to happen, but big if.

297
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:46,000
Me, as the juvenile prosecutor, I have juvenile, I have prosecutorial discretion over the juvenile,

298
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:52,000
and infraction. These case loads are my, my daily week.

299
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,000
If law enforcement is abusing this statute, it's going to get dismissed.

300
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,000
I'm not going to permit that to happen.

301
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,000
I've been doing this a long, long time.

302
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,000
And I'm not going to permit.

303
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,000
And Clint, I'm sure you're not being offended at this.

304
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,000
I'm not going to let that happen.

305
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,000
This was called prosecutorial discretion.

306
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:17,000
But on the flip side of that coin, I can't use this tool.

307
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:22,000
In situations where the parent is desperately needing something,

308
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,000
some tool to address their delinquent child.

309
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,000
We can, we have these programs that are called diversion program.

310
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:35,000
I'm sure the board has heard of these diversion programs that are available here in Teton County.

311
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,000
It's before the court system.

312
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,000
It's not involving the court system.

313
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:45,000
It's a diversion that allows us to get counseling, get programming, drug testing,

314
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:53,000
all of the things that these parents either can afford for themselves or don't know about.

315
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,000
And this is, this is a problem, and we can address it.

316
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:05,000
And we can use state and county funds to be able to address this for parents who can afford it or don't know about it.

317
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:11,000
If we use the statute appropriately, it can be benefit to our community.

318
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:17,000
It can be a benefit to even our minority communities who can afford to get their child counseling.

319
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,000
We can afford to get their child drug testing.

320
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:30,000
All of these things is a benefit to many parts of our community, all of which is paid by the state or the county.

321
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:34,000
Let me just repeat and I'll finish with this. This is a tool that parents need.

322
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,000
This is a tool that parents are asking for.

323
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:44,000
This is a tool that parents and law enforcement are asking for.

324
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,000
And I'll end with that. Thank you.

325
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,000
Thank you.

326
00:40:47,000 --> 00:41:01,000
So, that probably wraps up what we need to say.

327
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,000
I think there's only one other point.

328
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,000
I know it's been raised.

329
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:10,000
I think I guess if maybe it was generally raised.

330
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:16,000
Is this or any aspects of the proposed juvenile ordinance going to have a negative impact on

331
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:21,000
our undocumented community members?

332
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,000
I don't believe so.

333
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:29,000
I thought through this and I actually can't think of a way in which that it would.

334
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,000
I'm not going to be around the bush.

335
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,000
I mean, I don't know whether it's politically correct to say this.

336
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,000
But I'll just come out and say it because it's the truth.

337
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:40,000
A large number of the calls from parents that are asking for law enforcement to help.

338
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:44,000
Help find my runaway kid. Help me with my kid that I can't control.

339
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:49,000
That is coming from the undocumented community and law enforcement is trying their best to help them.

340
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,000
So, I want to be clear that I think that's an important tool.

341
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:58,000
And I'm worried about law enforcement not having that tool to help these families.

342
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:05,000
And in terms of the curfew ordinance, I think someone at least had concerns that, you know,

343
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,000
how does this interact with ICE?

344
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:12,000
Like, would a curfew in any way result and more, I don't know,

345
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:19,000
more reports or more documentation that could in some way result in our community members being, you know,

346
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,000
deported by ICE?

347
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:25,000
And I've thought about it and I really just, I don't think that that in any way.

348
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,000
I actually think it would have the opposite impact.

349
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:33,000
So, just to walk you through, kind of thinking off the cuff about the two common situations I mentioned about

350
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,000
the yard games like night games. Let's start there.

351
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:41,000
So, if you have the situation where the officer shows up and is, you know,

352
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,000
talking to a group of kids and a call to sack somewhere,

353
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:49,000
most likely, if, you know, what the officer is saying is, hey,

354
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:53,000
I see this spiraling into a dangerous situation, you need to go home.

355
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:58,000
Most likely that officer is not even taking down kids names and doesn't really care who the kids are.

356
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:02,000
Just wants the ability to say, this needs to come to an end.

357
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,000
You all, you know, all five of you wearing masks.

358
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,000
I don't even need to know who you are, but you need to go home.

359
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:13,000
That's going to result in, usually no report, correct me if I'm wrong.

360
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:20,000
And then, you know, but on the flip side, if the officer has to wait and wait for one of those,

361
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:24,000
you know, kids to commit a crime with trespass or commit reckless driving

362
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:28,000
and then get addressed in a criminal way, that absolutely does, you know,

363
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,000
of course it involves reports and a court case and all of these different things.

364
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:39,000
So, you know, the curfew as an infraction, not involving the criminal process,

365
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:46,000
is not going to trigger the same things that criminal cases and reporting would.

366
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:52,000
And again, it's very different between adults and juveniles, not the same thing,

367
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:58,000
but there's, I really just do not see any connection at all between the curfew ordinance

368
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,000
and increased interactions with ICE.

369
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:09,000
I already addressed that realistically, it's frequently undocumented individuals who are

370
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:15,000
calling asking for the sheriff's office to help them with runaways and out-of-control kids.

371
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:21,000
And then, I mean, just to address the situation where you've got a kid sneaking out for a romantic encounter,

372
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:27,000
let me tell you, we already spend a significant amount of time, you know,

373
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:32,000
I couldn't count a number of meetings I've had this month with various aspects of law enforcement and

374
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:38,000
social services trying to cobble together solutions to deal with highly problematic situations

375
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:44,000
where we are really concerned about a young individual that's in danger of being raped,

376
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:49,000
abused, kidnapped, trafficked, even lots of concerns out there.

377
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:56,000
So we're already trying to deal with those without real great mechanisms to do that.

378
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,000
And you better believe that there's ample reporting.

379
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:09,000
Officers, law enforcement, social services, everyone's already talking to those parents. Everyone's beyond aware who the parents are.

380
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:25,000
So in a city, you know, whether or not the group here, and it's really has no bearing on what reporting happens. The parents are going to get known. The kids are going to get known when we have these situations anyway, so it doesn't change anything and not regard.

381
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:38,000
I don't know whether or not if you can think of anything, but yeah, I mean, I think it's a good question. I'm glad we're asking these questions. We also, we want to be really cognate of these things, but I don't see it as a problem.

382
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:56,000
Okay. I, uh, this is an action item and I've given the situation more and I, for my chair today, I have no intention on making any motion right now.

383
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:05,000
I want to hear it from the public. I've heard from the public a lot. Unless one of the other commissioner's fields in need to make a motion.

384
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:14,000
And we could do that later in the agenda too, should they want to, that my, my feeling is that there is a need here for something.

385
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:28,000
It seems like there's a very small portion of the community that is affected by your needs and the whole community is affected by an ordinance.

386
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:43,000
And I, I hope we can find something that will satisfy everybody, but that's my goal. So anyway, I appreciate you taking your time to come and explain that I think it, she has a lot of light on the purpose of why you're here.

387
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:56,000
I did have a conversation and it was brought up to me that this is in no way a way to punish our children but to protect them and that, that hit home with me.

388
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:11,000
And I think we ought to consider that by the same time, but at the same time, I also realize that 99 or 95% of our county has no issue or fields they haven't need for this.

389
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:24,000
And so if we can find some way to enable law enforcement to do their job and do it to serve and protect and still make the community at large heavy, that's my goal.

390
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:34,000
So with that said, thank you and we'll move into the public comment version portion of the meeting today.

391
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:47,000
I would say an explanation. If you have sent an email, I've got that last count little over 50 emails from people and except for the ones I got this morning I read them all.

392
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:59,000
So if if you've sent an email and still feel you need to speak, it's okay, but I'd prefer because of the numbers if you, if you sent an email, rest assured it's been read.

393
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:09,000
And if you don't need to take time today, I'd appreciate that we are going to try to keep it to two minutes today.

394
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:17,000
Kim is going to your county clerk's going to call the people who have signed up to speak. If you want to speak and haven't signed up, be sure you do.

395
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:27,000
She'll call you and she'll give you a little heads up when your two minutes is up and if you can quickly wind it up after that, really appreciate it. Anything else?

396
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:31,000
Anybody who wants to speak and hasn't signed up, there's a sheet over there.

397
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:35,000
But I'll pick it up as we get to the end of the sheet I've got in front of me.

398
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:51,000
So first up, we'll be Brian and for everybody on mine, if you could raise your hand a little icon five in the room and then we'll do online people just to try to keep it.

399
00:48:51,000 --> 00:49:09,000
Hi, I'm Brian McDermott, 301 East 1,000 South former economic development chief for the county. Sorry to not have a comment on this important matter, the legal matter, but I'm commenting on item 11.2, the trestle proposed trestle settlement agreement with the developer.

400
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:19,000
I'm going to be really fast. You could table it right now because it has the wrong date has December 2024 on it, the one that they want you to sign.

401
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:25,000
I implore you on behalf of the citizens and in the interest of the citizens, don't sign it.

402
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:44,000
Table it, push it forward or reject it. The decision to reject that development application last year was well supported by the facts and the law and the documentation on that which is in the commissioner's package is absolutely bullet proof and it should withstand any legal challenge.

403
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:52,000
The developers in this valley love to use legal challenges to get their way when they are not complying with the law.

404
00:49:52,000 --> 00:50:06,000
Who benefits the developers who suffers the citizens? We have a reputation as a weak county where you can march in from Salt Lake City with a big bag of money and do what you want and that is not what the citizens want.

405
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:23,000
So I ask that you engage some legal counsel that, really look at this and I think the county should do its own settlement agreement and outline the interest of the citizens rather than the developer and work this thing out properly.

406
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,000
Thank you very much and sorry to interrupt.

407
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:30,000
You're not interrupting. Thank you. Okay.

408
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:36,000
Okay, the next is Monica Carrillo Carrillo and on deck Emily Vilder.

409
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:50,000
Hi, my name is Monica Carrillo and I'm here as a community member as a cultural director of client services of family safety network, a subherent and someone who works closely with family sentitom valley every single day.

410
00:50:50,000 --> 00:51:00,000
I want to speak today about the juvenile ordinance and why you will have a serious negative impact in the Latino community and many other families in our county.

411
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:04,000
First, I want to be clear, we want all the you to be safe.

412
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:19,000
But this ordinance does not make our community safer instead it increase the likelihood of an necessary police contact, especially for the Latino youth who already experienced more stops and questions and simply because of how they look.

413
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:29,000
Her views across the country had been shown to be enforced unevenly and this opens the door for racial profiling weather intended or not.

414
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:36,000
The ordinance also punished parents whether it's criminal or civil is still the same for our community.

415
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:47,000
In criminalizing families who are doing their best single parents, nice year of workers and newing their families who already carry a lot of stress and fear around enforcement.

416
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:54,000
Instead of supporting families, this ordinance adds another layer of fear and pressure in our community.

417
00:51:54,000 --> 00:52:04,000
Labeling you that's beyond parent control or issuing citations can push them into juvenile systems for issues that do not require a law enforcement.

418
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:14,000
Research shows UNL curfews do not reduce crime, but they do increase the negative impact or outcomes for minor youth.

419
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:23,000
We shall invest in prevention, mentorship, mental health support and community building, not criminalization.

420
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:30,000
I also want us to consider the youth who leave their homes because they do not feel safe.

421
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:36,000
Some teams run away from violence abuse or situations where their basic needs are not being met.

422
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:44,000
This youth people, these are protection and compassion, not citations or detainance or punishment for trying to escape from.

423
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:55,000
And I understand that that's one of, they won't do that, but I want you to think about the youth who already called them the problematic youth.

424
00:52:55,000 --> 00:53:02,000
And if somebody tells this to not enforcement is law enforcement going to believe this gets they believe their bad kids, probably not.

425
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:08,000
This ordinance is not reflect the reality of our culture rooms to our community.

426
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,000
Latino families often gather late night.

427
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:18,000
We are tanking cinemas, weddings, family reunions, church events and celebrations that go past midnight.

428
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:22,000
Those traditions shall not put our youth at risk to begin detain.

429
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,000
I already took a mission as to reconsider this ordinance.

430
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:32,000
Talk to the youth, talk to parents, talk to educators, and talk to the communities who will be most affected.

431
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:37,000
We all want safety, but this ordinance creates more harm than protection.

432
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:41,000
Our youth people deserve opportunities, not citations.

433
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,000
Our families deserve support, not civilians.

434
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:50,000
And our county, deserves policies, rooted in real solutions, not fear.

435
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:54,000
Thank you for your time and listen to the community concerns.

436
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,000
Thank you.

437
00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:00,000
Okay, up next, Emily Vilture, Auddeck, Anthony Wilcox.

438
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,000
Good morning.

439
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:09,000
My name is Emily Vilture, and I'm a parent here in Teton Valley, as well as the executive director of the family city network.

440
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,000
I'm here today, also regarding juvenile development.

441
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:20,000
As a parent, I worry both about the most vulnerable youth in our community and the kids who are already who do have support and structure at home.

442
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:26,000
A blanket curfew can feel controlling and alienating for teens who are simply growing into their autonomy.

443
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:30,000
If your base approaches rarely work with young people who are finding their voice,

444
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:36,000
I don't want my daughter who's worried about being stopped on her way home from babysitting at night.

445
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:44,000
And I understand that there are carve outs, but law enforcement doesn't know when they see a youth if that youth has a reason or where they're returning from.

446
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,000
And so they solve the ability to stop and confront that person.

447
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:54,000
I'm also an easy with passing an ordinance that creates broad authority for law enforcement while being told it won't be used that way.

448
00:54:54,000 --> 00:55:01,000
If an ordinance technically allows an officer to stop a minor driving home from work, we can't rely on assurances that that won't happen.

449
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:08,000
That signals that certain youth or certain types of youth are anticipated to be targeted while others are implicitly exempt.

450
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:19,000
It's critical to look not at the intentions behind the ordinance, but it would actually permit and how it can be used, especially against the kids who may already feel that they face a needful treatment.

451
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:27,000
From Ephesus perspective, I also need to name and it has been brought up today that some young people, they stay out late because home is not safe.

452
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,000
They're waiting for the house to be quiet until they go home.

453
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:34,000
For a parent to fall asleep before they can walk through their door.

454
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:39,000
For them, this ordinance does not provide protection, it creates new barriers to seeking help.

455
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:45,000
I appreciate Bailey's words about how law enforcement is supporting youth that they will support youth who are fleeing an abusive home,

456
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:51,000
but however impractice that looks very different and I don't trust that it will be possible.

457
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,000
It's very difficult for youth to report abuse.

458
00:55:54,000 --> 00:56:01,000
Just like any victim of abuse, if the youth cannot a physical proof, law enforcement is in a very difficult position.

459
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:07,000
And it is just as equally difficult as extreme verbal or emotional use that's taking place.

460
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,000
And parents have a lot of rights and have a lot of control.

461
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,000
So the kid is just staying out to wait for their parents to fall asleep.

462
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,000
It's quite understandable.

463
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:22,000
And then also regarding the 14-year-old girl leaving home to meet with an adult male, that is such a complex situation.

464
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:31,000
And I think it's so important to acknowledge that generally young youth and a physician like that have experienced vast amounts of trauma that have led them there.

465
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:35,000
And I don't think that this is a trauma informed response.

466
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:43,000
I think it is a much bigger issue that different stakeholders can help come together and think about how to navigate that and protect that young person.

467
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:51,000
I want to offer a constructive path forward every month, prosecution, law enforcement, family safety network, school counselors, health and welfare.

468
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:57,000
People from the hospital and child advocates meet as a multidisciplinary team focused on child safety.

469
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:08,000
I believe that from that group and others in our community, there are many people ready and willing to organize and talk through the concerns that led to the creation of this proposal.

470
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:17,000
And to work together to come up with creative solutions and supports that will actually support youth and families.

471
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:22,000
So I would encourage the commission to pause and engage that collaborative group.

472
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:29,000
And either work with that group or form a related community coordinated response moving forward to deal with these difficult issues.

473
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,000
Thank you for your time.

474
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:48,000
Good morning. I'm Anthony Wilcox from Tetoni Idaho. Commissioners. I see that you have some health issues you're facing. I wish you both this video recovery.

475
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:54,000
Regarding item 11.2 on the agenda. I know there's some concern about a day error aside from that.

476
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:58,000
I know there are people in the community who have some personal animists towards this project.

477
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:03,000
And the people involved in it. But the applicant felt that their rights and due process have been violated.

478
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,000
The applicant then brought a legal complaint against the county through an attorney.

479
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:11,000
The county's legal team must have agreed that there was fault from past county officials and their actions.

480
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,000
I've recommended this be settled amicably outside the courtroom.

481
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,000
And I've drafted an agreement between the interested parties.

482
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:23,000
This county has a history in recent times of ignoring legal advice or not seeking legal advice when it would be pertinent to do so.

483
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,000
And just winging it in the name of their active as a agenda.

484
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:30,000
Please spare us another expensive lawsuit. I'm asking you to sign the agreement.

485
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:36,000
And regarding this ordinance. I know there's a lot of interest in this and most of the criticism towards the proposed ordinance.

486
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:40,000
I'm asking that you approve it. I think in our almost one hour of presentation.

487
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,000
That all three individuals. They hit on all the points.

488
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,000
It concerns did a great job of dispelling any concerns.

489
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,000
And they say. Thank you.

490
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:48,000
Thank you.

491
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,000
Oops. Sorry. That's me.

492
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,000
Bruce, the rise on deck will be online.

493
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:58,000
Rebet the banker.

494
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,000
Tea Miller and Nikki Richards.

495
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,000
My name is Bruce Dorees. I'm here to speak about it.

496
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,000
Jen, I'm 13.7, which is not on the paper.

497
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:10,000
It's on the website.

498
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,000
Yeah. It's on the website.

499
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:13,000
And so we're going to.

500
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,000
We're not going to hear that today because of the conflict.

501
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,000
But we can listen to what your comments.

502
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,000
Well.

503
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,000
It's on the burden ranch.

504
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,000
And my property is a joining work ranch.

505
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:28,000
We're in the process of doing this up to business as well.

506
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:32,000
And my topic for conversation has to a silver star.

507
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:39,000
And being required are actually telling us we have to put it in silver star.

508
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,000
Which I want to agree with.

509
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:44,000
There's a got to be a freedom of choice.

510
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:50,000
Already the internet there is not very good as it is and being forced to use silver star.

511
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,000
We don't want to use it.

512
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,000
And my application is going to be held up because of that.

513
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,000
We can use Starlink.

514
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,000
Which is better.

515
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:00,000
And the offers.

516
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:09,000
Everybody, and I want you to do it. If they want to put so to start and let them do it, but to force us to do that, it's not right.

517
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:16,000
That's all I got. Okay, good. Thank you.

518
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:21,000
Okay, Rebecca Baker Online.

519
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:26,000
Good morning, temperatures. May I ask you a good question?

520
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:35,000
About 10 or 14 sets of closing lessons for example. I'm here to do comments about 2 items on the agenda.

521
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:46,000
The first item being, I want to point you to set up a minute, bring it to the wildfire and trussles.

522
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:52,000
I commented on this, something we bring at the first time, it was on the agenda.

523
01:00:52,000 --> 01:01:02,000
My comment still stands with regards to the lack of transparency as to how this agreement ended.

524
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:07,000
I'm just going to read a few names here on the Keller Investment properties.

525
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:20,000
I'll see Scott Keller, CEO, Kevin Keller, who's a welcome to CEO, Scott Keller, owns a joint ownership of wildfire,

526
01:01:50,000 --> 01:02:00,000
and a set selling agreement that is cross-precurrent or treatment could develop her who failed to submit an application to meet the standards

527
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:04,000
that we hold all other developers to in this county.

528
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:08,000
It's about work for the county that's valuable for board.

529
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:19,000
It's about work for the legal staff that, the legal staff that gave a great light for the decisions,

530
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:23,000
the way the decisions made by the World Bank Commissioners.

531
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:28,000
There's a comment on selling the agreement, I'm very much against it.

532
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:33,000
I think it is not a thing, it looks horrible.

533
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:48,000
Without a disclosure from the legal parties as the House of England came about and the guidance that is given from the county's perspective as to what it should be.

534
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:52,000
It should be soldering.

535
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:56,000
It's not significant.

536
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:59,000
It looks bad.

537
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:00,000
It looks bad.

538
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:01,000
It's real bad.

539
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,000
It's embarrassing.

540
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:06,000
So that's, those are my comments on the settlement agreement.

541
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:16,000
I also like to comment on agenda, how I'm 12-1, which is,

542
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:20,000
I'm going to comment on what this is the proposed language

543
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:27,000
and making it unlawful for a minor to leave the costly and adult without permission.

544
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:44,000
We are individually, the most marginalized youth in our community by not allowing them to have some independence and to escape potentially dangerous situations.

545
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:52,000
There's a clear case in this community that people are about to care about you and that don't want to see you become a criminal

546
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:59,000
because you are leading an unsafe home environment in which your identity is being challenged.

547
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,000
Those are my comments.

548
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:12,000
We don't need to be making kids criminals and I understand the difference between this leader and a psychiatrist.

549
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:17,000
And we don't need to be fighting children.

550
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,000
I know.

551
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:27,000
But kids are criminals for moving on to an environment.

552
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:35,000
And if anything, we should be proceeding to a date with a date in the adult such circumstances.

553
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:40,000
If you don't want to go and follow with a male dog who is not a family member,

554
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:48,000
make it a crime that adult can only be in a call with a minor who is not a family member.

555
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:52,000
Thank you for your time and consideration.

556
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:56,000
Okay, up next is Tom Miller.

557
01:04:56,000 --> 01:05:07,000
Then it will be Nikki Richards, I found, and you three, six, four, five, four, five, and then we'll go back to in person.

558
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,000
All right, this is Tom Miller.

559
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:20,000
I'll comment about 8.1, the temporary structures as long as you're in with the quarters.

560
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:33,000
One of the things that I think is a misunderstanding from previous comments that I've had is that we have different properties and differently.

561
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:40,000
And I'm not sure why we have this world across all property types.

562
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:45,000
You know, we talked about this being a world community and wanting to keep the farms active.

563
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:48,000
There should be a way for transient workers.

564
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:56,000
We're here for six or nine months to live on the property that they are farming.

565
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:59,000
It just doesn't make any sense to me.

566
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:11,000
I know there's a couple of mentions of supporting documentation about black water and grey water.

567
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:17,000
I agree that black tanks need to be handled properly.

568
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:29,000
A person I know in the valley uses a poor potty company that comes up, hooks up to the black water and just punch it right out.

569
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:36,000
And so there you have a lot done, so there are ways not traditional ways to solve that problem.

570
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:40,000
I'm not sure what's going on with grey water comments in those because

571
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:45,000
grey water 99% of it is soap and water.

572
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:48,000
People washing their dishes taking a shower.

573
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:56,000
And I don't see how that's any different than somebody who's spending washing their house to get the mold off of it.

574
01:06:56,000 --> 01:07:00,000
You're using soap and water, how about cars, trucks.

575
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,000
You know, is that going to be only able to do that?

576
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:14,000
And if it's not an actual live and we're going to talk about RVs and there's probably not more than three or four hundred of these in the county.

577
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:18,000
Grey water, get it on, found that.

578
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:28,000
And we have cows, you know, defecate it on the farmland, but yet we're okay with that, but you're going to worry about a little bit of grey water.

579
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:33,000
And if we want this community to say partially, far more, far more community.

580
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:41,000
We need to have a way for people who use the farmland for temporary housing during the season.

581
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:52,000
And you know, I'm just not sure what the problem is there, but I'm hoping it can sit or making some type of car about in the water.

582
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:56,000
And somebody who's like, has a family's own property.

583
01:07:56,000 --> 01:08:05,000
So they're really trying to farm that land that they can also park a RV on the farmland.

584
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:10,000
Thank you very much.

585
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:18,000
Okay, up next we'll be Nicky Miller on deck, iPhone.

586
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:26,000
Good morning, commissioners. I am Nicky Richards, Teton County resident. I'm the mom that I'm taking on agenda item 12.1.

587
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:35,000
I'm the mom of the Teton County team. If he's out between 12 and 5 am, I either know about it or he'll be grounded for the foreseeable future.

588
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:41,000
And I probably know about it because someone in the village that is our community would have seen him and we'll make sure I know.

589
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:44,000
Bottom line, I'm the parent and I'll handle it at home.

590
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:50,000
But I recognize all situations are different. The thought of an ordinance like this makes me wonder why.

591
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:56,000
What's going on in our community that prompted this? And what more can we do is a community to help these teams?

592
01:08:56,000 --> 01:09:00,000
Are there positive proactive approaches that we can take as a county?

593
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:07,000
I do know there are plenty of local nonprofits on that have spoken today and carrying community members who support our youth.

594
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:10,000
I for one should and we'll do more to help here.

595
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:18,000
As for night games, I think it's ticket for a kid writing on top of a car and a ticket for the driver would go a long way to stop other kids from doing that.

596
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:22,000
Maybe even a running for the first one on that.

597
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:28,000
I tell my son and his friends all the time to be respectful and not to ruin night games for the kids that will come after them.

598
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:36,000
I'm not a gambler, but before today I would have bet that if a child was in a car laid at night with a non-family adult that there would be more probing.

599
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:40,000
And at a minimum, the sheriff's department could call the parents of the juvenile.

600
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:46,000
I'm shocked that's not just procedure and I can imagine that that would be hard for the sheriff's department to work within.

601
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:50,000
I would love to see an ordinance where parent notification happens in those cases.

602
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:58,000
Arrests are not civil or criminal. I just don't want more kids in the system. I want to see kids be loved, supported, and parented at home.

603
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:02,000
Again, I think I can do more to help in our community on this front.

604
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:08,000
And I will seek ways to be more engaged part of the village that I believe it takes to raise our values youth.

605
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:14,000
Thank you for your time and service to our community.

606
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:26,000
Okay. I found on deck you three six four five five and please state your names.

607
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:30,000
Is that name by chance?

608
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,000
Yes.

609
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:36,000
Okay. This is Idaho Handsome from Tetonia.

610
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:42,000
And I want to also come up on item 11.2.

611
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:46,000
And I think that you need to get the date correct on the letter.

612
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:54,000
But also, I'm very concerned about, and I'm just going to know in a few, there's trust over, there's no other lines.

613
01:10:54,000 --> 01:11:00,000
And some of these subdivisions that are all over three years trying to get permits.

614
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:08,000
And I want to refer you back to the Supreme Court on the Teton Creek Resort.

615
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:16,000
And one of the big things that we'll see is that you cannot continue to move the gold post for these contractors.

616
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:24,000
And whether you like it or not, if they're following the RECDE that they started on,

617
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,000
that is all they have to do.

618
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:32,000
You cannot say all where your profit study was done three years ago as well when we're about that.

619
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:40,000
That is not a true statement. They're required to do a profit study when they did their preliminary hearing.

620
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:44,000
And because of that, you cannot change the gold post.

621
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:48,000
You cannot like them do traffic studies on today's profit.

622
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:58,000
All of these three year old applications shouldn't have been passed two years ago or two and a half years ago.

623
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:08,000
And I think that you also, the candy millions of dollars, if you get these all cleaned up.

624
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:20,000
Unfortunately, we have a regime in the commissioners and people about them that were trying to stop building.

625
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:24,000
And I would love to stop building, but I want to do it legally.

626
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,000
And this is not legally.

627
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:32,000
We're really poking the bar here. We have enough lawsuits against this.

628
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:38,000
We need to get there a great fixed on this and let ourselves continue on.

629
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:48,000
And my comment on 12.1 on this curfew, I think kids need to be able to be kids.

630
01:12:48,000 --> 01:13:00,000
I think that it is unfortunate that we want to put additional legal problems upon our children.

631
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:10,000
I think that nine to nine, I don't know what the percentage is of the kids and all of our good kids.

632
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:16,000
They do good things. They're told and draw life.

633
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:22,000
I think this ordinance leads to help those who need help.

634
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:26,000
But it shouldn't be just a blanket statement.

635
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:30,000
And they're about this out of state kids.

636
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:34,000
They are required to know that they have to be unbound midnight.

637
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:40,000
Because some families were camping up to the park and all of it, I had it.

638
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,000
Can you all kids that had under under?

639
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:46,000
Can you all kids go with them and they went through the park?

640
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:48,000
And they take that home over late.

641
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:54,000
I would hate for them to be pulled over and have a citation because they risk curfew.

642
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:58,000
Especially if they're out of state and they don't even know about the curfew.

643
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:04,000
So I do think that that needs to go back to the drawing table and I appreciate what Bob said.

644
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:12,000
And we would say that it affects those who need it, not the whole community.

645
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:16,000
That's all I got. Thank you.

646
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:22,000
Okay. You three six four five four five.

647
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:24,000
On deck will be curfew.

648
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:28,000
Hi. Thank you. My name is Dean Ivand and Berg.

649
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:32,000
I am a tricks resident. I live in the ironwood subdivision.

650
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:34,000
I'm commenting on 11.2.

651
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,000
The settlement agreement.

652
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,000
Not in favor of signing it.

653
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:42,000
I agree with all the other folks that have previously spoken.

654
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:46,000
Since 2023, it's been riddled with issues and errors.

655
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:52,000
And if we can't trust them to put through proper documentation through this

656
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:56,000
Comedy process, if you sign it, then how can we even trust that they're going to follow through

657
01:14:56,000 --> 01:15:00,000
and follow through the regulations when building these subdivision.

658
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:24,000
And then if they don't completely build it out, we're going to be stuck with them, rip it off our dricks, residents, just like in my subdivision where the out-of-state developer owns the majority of the lots. And we are being held hostage by them. Please don't sign this. Follow the rules, make them submit proper applications that are not riddled with errors. Thanks so much for your service. Thanks for your time.

659
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:31,000
Okay, up next, Kurt Bailey, on deck Sarah Johnston.

660
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:41,000
I think Kurt stepped out of there. Okay, Sarah. And on deck Sue O'Connor. Sarah Johnston, great side of hope.

661
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:51,000
Thank you for giving me the opportunity to share my concerns this morning. And thank you for all the work you do to take care of our community.

662
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:58,000
I'm here because I have very serious concerns and opposition to the juvenile delinquent ordinance.

663
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:10,000
I don't have time to go into all the details, but I have read this proposed law very carefully, and it does not say what our prosecutor described.

664
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:17,000
For those of you who don't know me, I am not a criminal. I have never been charged with any crime.

665
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:25,000
I am a local business owner, and I was recently elected to City Council. When I was a teen, I was not a trouble maker.

666
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:34,000
I got straight A's in high school. I went to college for engineering, and I was the valetorian of my graduating class.

667
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:45,000
My parents never contributed as single penny, or helped me with any university or financial aid application.

668
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:57,000
When I was 18, my mom died from cancer. When I was 17, she was in a wheelchair and disabled, and my dad was abusive.

669
01:16:57,000 --> 01:17:06,000
I moved out on my own at 17, as soon as I finished high school, supporting myself and saving money for college.

670
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:15,000
The ordinance you have in front of you would have made me the criminal. This ordinance defines a juvenile as a runaway.

671
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:25,000
It makes that action a crime. It makes it a crime before there's a crime. It defines it as a misdemeanor and says that children can be taken into police custody.

672
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:32,000
It labels them as delinquent. If they are all of these things, if they are away from their parents for 12 hours.

673
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:38,000
I lived on my own for over a month and a half before I turned 18.

674
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:47,000
When I was 16, and had just attained my driver's license, I went on a kayaking trip with kids from the Jackson Hook High Club and our coaches.

675
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:57,000
The coach was not my legal guardian. The carve out does not say parental permission, and it does not say parental shaperone or adult shaperone.

676
01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:04,000
It says parent or legal guardian. We left Jackson after school and after work on a Friday.

677
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:09,000
God groceries at 10 p.m. a friend Meyer and Idaho Falls and drove late into the night.

678
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:18,000
I would have been a criminal for being out after curfew for a recreational activity. Again, recreational activities are not a carve out in this ordinance.

679
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:22,000
Without my parents and without their explicit permission.

680
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:33,000
Driving after an admit night and camping on public land is not an errand or a duty. It was not sanctioned by my school. It is not a carve out.

681
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:48,000
If I had tried to stand up to my abusive dad, this ordinance with the beyond control of parents language would have enabled my dad to call the sheriff and say that I was being disruptive and get me into the criminal system as a trouble maker.

682
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:57,000
It is already very hard for victims of domestic abuse to get help and this ordinance would make it even harder.

683
01:18:57,000 --> 01:19:09,000
I understand there are real problems. This ordinance is trying to solve, but this ordinance is not the answer. This ordinance criminalizes activities that are not and should not be crimes.

684
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:20,000
If you're thinking, well, it won't be enforced like that. I caution you to vote no. It needs to be rewritten so that what it says lines up with how it will be used.

685
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:30,000
Any time a law is on the books that is not consistently enforced, it opens the door for to be used in a discriminatory and abusive way.

686
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:37,000
Our system does a dismal job of protecting minors who are victims of domestic abuse at the hands of their parents.

687
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:47,000
For kids like me, not only does this ordinance fail to protect me, it flips it around and makes me the criminal.

688
01:19:47,000 --> 01:20:01,000
When I find the courage to escape a bad situation, please focus on fighting real crimes and protecting victims. Please don't criminalize minors who are going about their lives.

689
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:11,000
Everyone, even minors deserve the freedom to pursue life, liberty and happiness.

690
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:23,000
Up next, you will honor on death, Garvin Ricks.

691
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:31,000
Hi, my name is Sue O'Connor. I live at 12, 20, Wendy Hallway in Dricks.

692
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:39,000
And I'd like to talk about item 11.2, the settlement agreement between for trestles and wildflower.

693
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:49,000
There are so many reasons why you should not approve this settlement agreement for wildflower and trestles.

694
01:20:49,000 --> 01:21:08,000
For me, the biggest one is that it does not right or fair to allow two old proposals that have been denied in previous years multiple times and for multiple valid reasons to be resurrected and eased through under the old land development code.

695
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:24,000
And at the taxpayer's expense, when they should be subject to the same process of redesigning reconfiguration under the new legal zoning codes as all other denied development proposals are.

696
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:32,000
If you approve this settlement, you are giving preferential treatment to one particular developer.

697
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:48,000
And I would say shame on you. This is not what I expect my county commissioners to do as a representation of me or of this community.

698
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:57,000
These two old and previously denied proposals. If approved in settlement will proceed to strain the water table with so many wells.

699
01:21:57,000 --> 01:22:04,000
Contaminate an important natural spring that is located on the proposed development land.

700
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:22,000
Conjust the junction of 2000 cells in highway 33 with even more traffic than it already has and no turning lanes and allow too many people and too many houses on land that cannot sustain it.

701
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:34,000
Also severely displaced the wildlife that used the open land.

702
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:39,000
And this is where it gets very emotional for me.

703
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:49,000
Because my husband and I have lived on this property are property adjacent to the proposed sub-tressal subdivision development.

704
01:22:49,000 --> 01:23:05,000
Full time for 25 years. And we have seen with our own eyes the vast amount of wildlife that used land, both to rest in and travel through.

705
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:13,000
There are so many and I have a list here, but I want to say I will just keep going.

706
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:29,000
Elk deer moves foxes, coyotes, snowshoe hair, canodegies, snow geese, cranes, variety of raptors. That is only a sum of what we have seen on a regular basis.

707
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:39,000
These animals and open space are what our community of Teton Valley have positively said they value keeping.

708
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:45,000
Dense housing on small lots are not what we need at the scenic gateway to drakes.

709
01:23:46,000 --> 01:24:01,000
These should be reserved for within the city limits and not on the outskirts. It is important to remember that these two proposals were denied application because they were missing lots of different required elements.

710
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:17,000
They should not get a second chance for that. They should start over under the new land development code. Please do not approve this or any settlement agreement with wildflower or tressals.

711
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:21,000
Thank you for your time.

712
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:27,000
It is curvy back.

713
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:29,000
It is curvy back.

714
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:39,000
Okay, so up next garden ricks on deck 1-4th.

715
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:46,000
My name is Garb and ricks. I am a resident of the north end of the valley by help by felt.

716
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:56,000
I want to speak to gender 6.1 which is a road vacation.

717
01:24:56,000 --> 01:25:01,000
I have used that road and I know other people have used that road.

718
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:10,000
It is a road that doesn't get a lot of maintenance and it is still usable.

719
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:28,000
From all the years I have been here in the valley. I continually see lack of things being well roads and access to places being closed.

720
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:33,000
I use as a child or a young guy.

721
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:38,000
Now they have got no trespassing signs and gates all over.

722
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:45,000
I just hate to see this happening with our valley. Everything is getting closed off.

723
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:52,000
This road is a county right away and I believe it should be left open.

724
01:25:52,000 --> 01:26:00,000
Thank you. Just so you know the applicant did withdraw.

725
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:05,000
1-4th is on deck MRA.

726
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:13,000
1-4th is on deck MRA.

727
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:21,000
Good morning. I am here as a representative in my community and I am also with the Hispanic Resource Center.

728
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:27,000
And I would like to urge you to vote no on the delinquent juveniles.

729
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:33,000
Curfuse have been prevent ineffective repealed elsewhere in a necessary draw.

730
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:37,000
Non-cranimal criminal juice into the justice system.

731
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:50,000
This ordinance would also criminalize normal and undermine parental, normal activities and undermine parental authority by enforcing a one-size-fits-all curfew.

732
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:58,000
Given events across our country, I am deeply concerned about increased risk of racial profiling.

733
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:04,000
Our immigrant community, regardless of legal status, is already leaving in fear.

734
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:06,000
What's next?

735
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:17,000
What should be next is a resilient, proactive and effective diversion program that focuses on healthy outcomes for our youth, not punitive.

736
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:36,000
Also, the creating of a record for a juvenile, my prevent them in the future advancing careers in high profile or clearances that are needed to join the military and other government agencies.

737
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:40,000
So please do not let this go. Don't pass it.

738
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:51,000
And maybe, like somebody else said, maybe we could talk about other ordinances that maybe just focuses on runaways.

739
01:27:51,000 --> 01:28:02,000
But not everybody in our communities and I am talking in general, our criminals and we should not create a record for them. Thank you.

740
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:07,000
Up next, Emma Rae, on deck David Tsiso.

741
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:17,000
Hi, I'm Emma Rae, 6263 SouthFest Street, Tetonia.

742
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:25,000
I am commenting on the juvenile ordinance that was proposed as well and I sent an email so I'm not going to repeat the email.

743
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:46,000
So I do want to comment on process a little bit. It didn't sound like you passed the amendment to the agenda as amended, as a motion. So someone who woke my toddler would have slept in to be here at 9 o'clock for open mic and then preempting public comment with the presentation is frustrating.

744
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:54,000
And then I also want to comment on something that the prosecutor attorney said, which you're right there and I'm talking about you.

745
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:58,000
What you said was contradictory.

746
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:06,000
We've read the ordinance as a community. We can see that there are very limited cases where the curvy would not apply.

747
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:13,000
Just not in your presentation verbally or saying that well, in parent permission, it's fine. That's not what we're going to say.

748
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:20,000
I'm talking about that and it's right there. So that's confusing and contradictory.

749
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:27,000
And so just like someone said earlier, you can't just say, well, here's what it says in black and white, but we're going to use it this way.

750
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:31,000
That's not how it works. It needs to be written the way that it's going to be used.

751
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:44,000
So just trying to understand which parents would be seen as having a given parent permission for there could be out late, and which parents will be seen as the ones who don't care.

752
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:50,000
That's where the bias comes in. There's no, to me, there's no difference. You have my permission or I don't care what you're doing.

753
01:29:50,000 --> 01:30:00,000
That's where the concern comes in with very valid concern of bias and how it will be enforced and which parents will be seen as during their right thing versus.

754
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:10,000
Thank you. David Sussan on deck, Mandy Bakke-Teller.

755
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:18,000
Aye aye, my name is David Sussan. I am 24, 10 Falcon Creek Drive and Driggs. And I want to thank the sheriff

756
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:26,000
and the prosecutor's office for kind of their fairly detailed explanation on the youth ordinance.

757
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:38,000
And you've clarified some a point for it, which are important. And I want to really emphasize the importance of the carve out for youth, if you'll threaten or endanger the home.

758
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:44,000
And I want to share just a couple. And he goes, with you about that.

759
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:54,000
When my daughter was seen here in high school, her best friend showed up by our door on a cold winter night in her bathroom and her slippers.

760
01:30:54,000 --> 01:31:02,000
There had been an altercation in her home where her younger brother and her stepdad, and she get free.

761
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:08,000
And so I think it's very important to get a big carve out for that.

762
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:21,000
Another thing, and again, you know, you say the statute will be rarely, you know, you really have to use it, and it's important to, you know, if you have a tool.

763
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:34,000
And I think that's understandable. But how that's important, how that works. And now with parent information, I mean, here's another example of my daughter, with our commission, with over at a friend's house, it turned into a party.

764
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:43,000
She became uncomfortable with that party. She came home after midnight. Therefore, we've been in violation of your perfume.

765
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:53,000
As a parent, I was very proud of her, that she actually had the ability to see that this was a situation that she didn't like, and was able to leave.

766
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:59,000
And yet, she could've got to take it for that, because she was out without our commission.

767
01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:02,000
And that's the show that she was supposed to be at her friend's house.

768
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:12,000
So I think there's some, you know, there's some subleties to the issue, and there's some very subleties that need to be worked into the ordinance before it actually moves forward.

769
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:24,000
And that's not easy to do, and I realize it's challenging, and from the law enforcement aspect, and especially you and you're never dealing with parents who don't care, and other issues.

770
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:33,000
But I think it's worth taking the time to carefully. It's carefully as carefully as we can craft the issue.

771
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:47,000
One of the things I might comment on in her presentation, it was interesting to me that we, you know, the state statutes changed, and so we no longer have ability to use these things would be really nice to know as you present this in the future.

772
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:59,000
How often you did use it, these tools, when we actually have the state statutes that we use, because I give us a perspective on how that actually has to be used in the county. Well, thank you.

773
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:08,000
Okay, up next is Mandy Rockefeller, on deck, we'll be currently, and I'll just remind everybody to address the board.

774
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:18,000
Thank you. Hi. I hope everyone can hear me. Thank you for the opportunity to speak. My name is Mandy Rockefeller. I live at 813 Drake or Trail in Drake's.

775
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:32,000
I'm here to strongly oppose the proposed juveniles ordinance. National research consistently shows the majority of runaways and usually home to escape abuse and neglect or unsafe family conflict, not because they're the link went or defiant.

776
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:43,000
Studies indicate that 40 to 60% of one way runaway youth report abuse or severe neglect and more than half site family conflict as the primary reason they fled.

777
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:56,000
Criminalizing these children punishes the most vulnerable. The ones already trying to survive unsafe situations a child fleeing harm should not face a misdemeanor or citation for trying to survive.

778
01:33:56,000 --> 01:34:12,000
Wank it ordinances are simply not the answer. This ordinance also opens up the door for unequal or discriminatory enforcement, especially for teens who already face higher rates of police contact like use of color, neurodivergent children and youth living in poverty.

779
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:20,000
These groups are statistically more likely to be labeled difficult, disruptive or defiant even when exhibiting normal adolescent behavior.

780
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:33,000
The proposed curfew is equally concerning. Many teens in Teton County work earlier late shifts help on family farms trained for sports or travel long distances between work, school and home.

781
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:39,000
Penalizing them for being in public during certain hours is not only impractical, it's unfair.

782
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:48,000
I would have fallen myself into the same category as I as a junior in high school worked in Jackson until 1130 p.m.

783
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:57,000
Every day. How can these, how are we going to determine who is falling subject to this?

784
01:34:57,000 --> 01:35:07,000
How are they going to be a roadside stop? In terms of practicality and how law enforcement is going to handle this, this ordinance seems very open and broad.

785
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:12,000
I'd also like to point out a personal note, as you might have noticed, I'm a small adult.

786
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:21,000
I'm routinely mistaken for a teenager behind the wheel. So if I understand correctly under this ordinance, I could feasibly be pulled over for my appearance alone.

787
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:26,000
Although I hope the gray hair that my own teens have given me would show otherwise.

788
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:37,000
However, I will say at 17, I actually was pulled over and the Idaho State Police Officer asked me if I was old enough to be driving this thing, which was my car.

789
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:47,000
Frankly, the county in my opinion doesn't have the enforcement capacity for the regulations we already have, adding the new layer of juvenile policing, which is a parent's responsibility.

790
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:55,000
Coupled with especially subjective enforcement is not realistic and could easily lead to discrimination and inconsistent or inequitable outcomes.

791
01:35:55,000 --> 01:36:12,000
There's no real limitation in my opinion to this ordinance. So while we are supposed to have this ordinance and simply trust that law enforcement will use it to whatever means they deemed necessary, I don't believe anything that's not in black and white.

792
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:25,000
If the county wants to help struggling youth, the answer is not criminalization. To echo what Emily said earlier, the answer is mental health support, crisis intervention and family resources, not penalties that deep in trauma and mistrust.

793
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:35,000
For these reasons and many more, I respectfully urge you to reject this ordinance. Please let me parent my children. Thank you.

794
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:39,000
Okay, up next, curvy on death, kill each or go.

795
01:36:48,000 --> 01:37:04,000
Hi, my name is Kurt Bailey. The entrance Idaho. I also want to comment on the juvenile proposal. I've had underage kids under 18 driving in the valley for last 70 years.

796
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:10,000
I can tell you with some of the things that the sheriff has mentioned.

797
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:19,000
It shocks me when my kids tell me what's gone on with these, these chased parties, whatever. They started the school, they ended up rulms and gone through people's yards.

798
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:27,000
Parties where they're drinking in Darby Canyon, whatever it might be. So there's a lot happening.

799
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:34,000
Unless we have children and care from what's happening, there's a lot of things that the sheriff's office is having to deal with.

800
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:50,000
And I think for my children, if they're out, not where they're supposed to be or during hours where we know sometimes not anything good happens at 2am for a 17 year old or a 16 year old or a 15 year old, especially if the parents aren't aware of it.

801
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:59,000
So I haven't gone through all the details of the proposal, but I think it's more can be if it's not already more of a protection for our children.

802
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:06,000
And when we talk about runaways and whatnot of my child ran away, I would want the police to get involved and to help.

803
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:18,000
If I can't find them, I don't know where they are, and I don't think for a minute with Clint staff that they would pull over a child who's in distress and dysregulated whether they're neuroditoring or whatever.

804
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:26,000
I don't feel that they would just throw them through a normal protocol from in the back seat and deal with it then.

805
01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:34,000
So I think it's very important that we understand really what's happening with a lot of these kids and like some of the antics that are happening.

806
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:39,000
They're different than what our generation and 10 years ago did or 30 years ago or 40 years ago.

807
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:46,000
So I think it's very important that these are true things that the sheriff's department's having to deal with taking out a lot of their time.

808
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:54,000
We have very few sheriff's at these hours to deal with drunk driving but can also take out our families and our children.

809
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:59,000
So I think it's important that we understand really what's happening out there and how we deal with it.

810
01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:06,000
But it is, I feel more of the protection of our youth than it is to penalize that.

811
01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:09,000
Thanks.

812
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:15,000
Kelly jerk up and on deck Janine Jolly.

813
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:20,000
Hello commissioners.

814
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:24,000
I would talk to you in quite some time in that time.

815
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:26,000
I'm resident Victor Idaho.

816
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:28,000
Kelly jerk up.

817
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:31,000
I've have now two teenage boys.

818
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:38,000
They are 16 and 14 and I have two step children teenage boys that are also all residents of the valley.

819
01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:44,000
And I'm here today to ask you to oppose the juvenile ordinance regarding curfew.

820
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:51,000
I can only speak to what I have witnessed raising teenagers and especially boys in the valley.

821
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:56,000
And I would ask you to also listen to all these personal stories from people that have stories.

822
01:39:56,000 --> 01:40:00,000
Family safety network, Sarah Johnson, old friend.

823
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:04,000
I asked you to listen to these stories with heavy heart.

824
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:06,000
Mine is not as heavy.

825
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:08,000
I have the ways that like to party.

826
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:09,000
It's horrible.

827
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:12,000
I do everything I could to keep them safe.

828
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:19,000
And I feel like this ordinance for kids that are very social, that are athletes, that are independent.

829
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:25,000
It will deter them from appreciating police, from collaborating with police.

830
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:27,000
And feeling like they are.

831
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:32,000
The criminal world keeps throwing out, but my kids don't want to get pulled over.

832
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:33,000
It's just a thing.

833
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:36,000
We were all there when we were younger.

834
01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:39,000
I feel like I have a safe home.

835
01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:42,000
I also think this ordinance will keep kids away from my safe home.

836
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:44,000
My kids stay out late.

837
01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:51,000
If there is a lot of kids drinking at a party, there is one kid usually that is taking multiple kids home.

838
01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:53,000
I want my kid home.

839
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:56,000
Whether they're the DD or the one that's intoxicated.

840
01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:59,000
I don't want them staying at a house where there's not guns that are taken care of.

841
01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:02,000
Where there are parents that are abusive.

842
01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:05,000
Where all kinds of things happen.

843
01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:08,000
When kids get stuck up in a place.

844
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:12,000
Even if there isn't going to be abuse, they're going to do something unsafe.

845
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:14,000
They're going to ride an ATV home.

846
01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:16,000
Across someone's property.

847
01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:20,000
They are going to, they're going to sleep in their car.

848
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:24,000
They're going to stay out camping and potentially start a fire because they're a bunch of idiots.

849
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:27,000
We need to get our kids home safe.

850
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:28,000
My home is safe.

851
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:31,000
I'm so sad for all the kids in this family that do not have a safe home.

852
01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:33,000
But my home is safe.

853
01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:34,000
I've made it safe.

854
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:37,000
I've tried for years to keep it safe.

855
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:40,000
I appreciate the police and I do not know how you do it.

856
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:42,000
My kids play night games.

857
01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:44,000
I played night games when I was little.

858
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:47,000
I've heard that there are kids getting pulled over.

859
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:49,000
The police are respectful.

860
01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:51,000
They have to manage it that way.

861
01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:54,000
This ordinance is not the right answer.

862
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:58,000
A bunch of the kids that I know.

863
01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:03,000
Okay, so if teens, if teens, I don't want these to our teens off the streets.

864
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:07,000
I think this curfew is going to be a complete deterrent to that.

865
01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:08,000
Our streets are safe.

866
01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:09,000
They're not perfect.

867
01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:14,000
But I want my kids to tell me the truth.

868
01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:16,000
They don't always tell me the truth.

869
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:17,000
They don't always tell me the truth.

870
01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:18,000
The gentlemen, the talks about earlier.

871
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:20,000
They're at parties that I don't know about because they went somewhere.

872
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:21,000
They went somewhere else.

873
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:24,000
If they're not going to be able to get home even though they're not.

874
01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:26,000
I don't know where they are.

875
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:27,000
I need them home.

876
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:28,000
We have a plan.

877
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:29,000
They have a curfew.

878
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:32,000
We have a plan.

879
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:34,000
Alcohol is obviously another issue.

880
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:36,000
I had a lot of these parties and out at Darby.

881
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:40,000
I don't own my kids staying there because they're afraid that they're going to get pulled over.

882
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:43,000
And their buddy has a weed pen in the car.

883
01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:45,000
And they're going to get a citation.

884
01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:47,000
I know all these things are illegal, but they're children.

885
01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:48,000
Their kids.

886
01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:50,000
They're independent and they're lovely.

887
01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:53,000
And I do think the village that is Teton Valley is doing a decent job.

888
01:42:53,000 --> 01:43:00,000
Let's see.

889
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:04,000
I feel that our kids and Teton Valley because of this independence are extremely special.

890
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:06,000
I think that they do incredibly well.

891
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:09,000
Watching a lot of teens leave here, go to college.

892
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:12,000
Have careers contribute to this world.

893
01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:20,000
I think a lot of their connection nature, their independence and the test that they face are invaluable.

894
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:23,000
I think this is going to keep a lot of kids.

895
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:30,000
It's eventually going to potentially put kids that shouldn't be in trouble, in trouble, and marginalize them.

896
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:32,000
And maybe put them on a path that they don't need to be on.

897
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:35,000
I just got to keep my teenage boys safe for as long as I can.

898
01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:37,000
And then they're going into the world.

899
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:39,000
I believe that's my job by all means.

900
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:48,000
But I also believe that this exact ordinance would deter me from doing that job well.

901
01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:50,000
That's all I got. Thank you for listening.

902
01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:52,000
Edwin, have a good day.

903
01:43:52,000 --> 01:44:03,000
Okay, Janine Jolly and on deck I apologize I can't read this name but the last name looks like Morrison.

904
01:44:03,000 --> 01:44:05,000
Hi, Janine Jolly and Victor.

905
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:11,000
I really appreciate the explanation given by our prosecuting team and our sheriff.

906
01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:14,000
And I feel like so much of this could have been avoided.

907
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:19,000
Had we had this down as a discussion item and not an action item.

908
01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:22,000
I think everybody got really excited me included.

909
01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:30,000
I mean, I wrote you a very pointed letter last night, which I am sure you read since you said you read them from last night.

910
01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:41,000
And after hearing this meeting, I feel better about particularly 4.8.1 and 4.8.2.

911
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:47,000
I think I agree with a lot of the people that said that the carve outs that Bailey talked about.

912
01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:49,000
They're not in writing.

913
01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:51,000
I want to see those in writing.

914
01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:53,000
I want those spelled out.

915
01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:54,000
I know we had three kids.

916
01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:56,000
We raised three kids in this valley.

917
01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:57,000
Love the valley.

918
01:44:57,000 --> 01:44:58,000
Love the opportunities.

919
01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:00,000
Love the night games that they.

920
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:18,000
We've got to play, but also, if my kid ever stepped across the line, I would totally want to know about it, and I would then not only would they get a punishment from the place, they would get a punishment at home, and they would not do that again.

921
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:42,000
Well, I think we need to see carveouts in writing. I really appreciate the stories that we've heard, and I think a lot of us, without going into our own stories, can identify with those, and appreciate what people have said about escaping abusive situations, and where do we go to fill safe.

922
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:56,000
That needs to be in writing, and we can't just say, well, the police will do that, because they're good people, which they are, and I would totally support any of them right now, but we don't know what's going to happen in the future.

923
01:45:56,000 --> 01:46:09,000
So that needs to be written down. I think just good communication, better communication, the difference between an action item and a discussion item would have totally fixed this whole thing.

924
01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:21,000
I think having the knowledge ahead of time about the state statute, having expired, and we need to put that back into place, I don't think any of us would have a really a lot of problem with that.

925
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:29,000
We've lived under it anyway, and we just didn't know what was gone. So now moving on to a different topic.

926
01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:42,000
This is completely different than what you've heard today, but I would suggest as the Board of County Commissioners, your job is to help safety and welfare of this citizens.

927
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:54,000
And that's it. We have so many other things that are coming into play in this county and you're getting pushed on by all sides. Your job helps safety welfare.

928
01:46:54,000 --> 01:47:07,000
I think the biggest problem that we have in this county is Highway 33, and people can talk about subdivisions all they want. I'm sorry, we're all living on land that once was this age-brush field. Everybody is.

929
01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:17,000
So you don't have any special rights, but on Highway 33 we do have the right to be safe, and that is your job.

930
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:34,000
And we do need to petition the state, ITD department and the state for more turn lanes, a bigger highway, whatever that solution is, that will make us safer, and that would also help I think with some of these other problems that we're having with development.

931
01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:39,000
So thank you, have a great day.

932
01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:46,000
Up next, this gentleman and on deck Anna trying to do.

933
01:47:47,000 --> 01:47:54,000
I'm Alex Morrison. I want to talk about the 8.1 living in RV stuff like that.

934
01:47:54,000 --> 01:48:05,000
It's over the past many years. That's how I've chosen to live is in an RV that way I'm not having to pay $3,500 a month in rent and just throw that money away.

935
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:14,000
I'm trying to build a business, trying to build my life to do better things, and just taking rent money and throwing it away.

936
01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:21,000
It doesn't seem feasible to me when I'm trying to save up to be able to pay by a piece of property and stuff like that.

937
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:30,000
But what I see wrong with this ordinance is also lease just shy of 100 acres of land in this valley.

938
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:41,000
And if it wasn't for me lease in that land, it'd be nothing but we'd invest it and everything else, but wasn't for me taking care of that land, which would be that many more problems for the county.

939
01:48:42,000 --> 01:48:48,000
But county ordinance says, I can't be there. I can't live in my fifth world there.

940
01:48:48,000 --> 01:48:53,000
But yet, in what I do, there's no RV of road in this valley, I don't drive down.

941
01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:58,000
And there's well over 100 RVs being lived in.

942
01:48:58,000 --> 01:49:06,000
And they've been there, wait past 180 day mark that the ordinance says.

943
01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:10,000
And the ordinance isn't being done black and white.

944
01:49:10,000 --> 01:49:12,000
So it's easy to got to be black and white.

945
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:19,000
And every single person in this county, this living in an RV, gets told they got to move every 180 days.

946
01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:30,000
Or there needs to be carve outs, wrote in that ordinance, such as, you own that property, so you can be able to do that.

947
01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:33,000
You lease that property, you can be able to do that.

948
01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:41,000
And I mean, most of what I've seen is there's supposedly some type of RV permit or something I can buy.

949
01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:50,000
Well, that just comes down to the county didn't get their dollar from me for me to be here working and living in this county.

950
01:49:50,000 --> 01:49:53,000
Something's got to change on that.

951
01:49:53,000 --> 01:49:59,000
The ordinance, I can understand it of in city and all that.

952
01:49:59,000 --> 01:50:02,000
You don't want an RV behind every business and all that.

953
01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:08,000
But the way that the rent is, the way that the housing situation is in this valley.

954
01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:15,000
It is very, very hard for your average blue color worker to afford to live here.

955
01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:23,000
And for the people that are living here, they're, and paying the high price rent that is what's called affordable right here.

956
01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:25,000
They're not putting anything in savings.

957
01:50:25,000 --> 01:50:28,000
They're not doing anything to better their lives.

958
01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:31,000
They're living barely paycheck to paycheck to paycheck to paycheck.

959
01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:38,000
And if they have any disaster in their family, they got nothing.

960
01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:44,000
I think that should be a major consideration of the border directors here.

961
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:48,000
Because our workforce still has to be here.

962
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:55,000
There's business owners here that can all verify of how hard it is to get decent employees here.

963
01:50:55,000 --> 01:50:58,000
Employees that will show up every day.

964
01:50:58,000 --> 01:51:03,000
If we can't live here, if we don't have a way of being here.

965
01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:09,000
I mean, look how often 33 shut down, 32 shut down, and all of that in the wintertime.

966
01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:12,000
Well, everybody that runs a business here.

967
01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:17,000
A business still has to run, either your employees are here or not, especially the service industries.

968
01:51:17,000 --> 01:51:23,000
That which makes it to where it's a domino effect that goes down the line.

969
01:51:23,000 --> 01:51:32,000
We need to make it to where being able to live in an RV and all that isn't something that's looked down on.

970
01:51:32,000 --> 01:51:39,000
It needs to be made easier, and it needs to not be discriminated on.

971
01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:44,000
Okay, up next, and in a trying to do on deck, Steve O'Connor.

972
01:51:44,000 --> 01:51:46,000
And I would remind anybody who's on Zoom.

973
01:51:46,000 --> 01:51:54,000
If you wish to speak of raise your hand and we'll get to you in just a few minutes.

974
01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:56,000
Good morning, commissioners.

975
01:51:56,000 --> 01:51:59,000
I'm here to talk about agenda item 11.2.

976
01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:01,000
I've been retained by Susan O'Connor.

977
01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:08,000
She is a Teton County taxpayer and an abutting property owner who's on a private domestic well.

978
01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:14,000
Who vigorously participated in the opposition to both the trestles and wildflower development proposals.

979
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:19,000
I'm here to urge you not to sign the settlement agreement that sits before you.

980
01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:24,000
It conveys an unconstitutional and unprecedented benefit to two private developers.

981
01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:28,000
It is a grant of preferential treatment at the cost of the public.

982
01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:33,000
You're basically allowing them through this agreement a second bite in the apple,

983
01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:38,000
where they'd be able to resurrect prior denials, which had already preceded two completion,

984
01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:40,000
the end of this board's authority.

985
01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:44,000
And the jurisdiction is now sitting with the district court.

986
01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:50,000
But the agreement will allow them to turn back the clock and utilize old development standards and zoning densities

987
01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:54,000
that have not been the law of the land for over 40 months now.

988
01:52:54,000 --> 01:52:59,000
The primary effect, the end result of this agreement, is to grant an economic advantage,

989
01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:06,000
and specially tailor-made process to two developers in a way that is totally unavailable to other developers.

990
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:12,000
Looking back, these two projects were denied recommended for denial by the Planning and Zoning Commission.

991
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:18,000
Wildflower was ultimately denied for six areas where it did not meet county code.

992
01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:22,000
Trestles had a disdusting nine areas where it did not meet county code.

993
01:53:22,000 --> 01:53:27,000
This is really unheard of that two projects were so incomplete and deemed to be lacking,

994
01:53:27,000 --> 01:53:33,000
necessary components, and as publicly stated by former Commissioner of Whitfield,

995
01:53:33,000 --> 01:53:37,000
legal counsel has advised you that these denials were defensible,

996
01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:43,000
and that there was minimal risk to allowing these two projects to just go through judicial review.

997
01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:49,000
I'm here to say that this settlement agreement violates Article 3, Section 19 of the Idaho Constitution.

998
01:53:49,000 --> 01:53:55,000
It creates a special tailor-made process that no other developers ever received before.

999
01:53:55,000 --> 01:54:02,000
It's the ability to go back four years in time and revive a concept of application that really no cost to the developer

1000
01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:06,000
that was ultimately already denied by final action through the borne.

1001
01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:14,000
It also violates Idaho's investing rule by taking two fully denied applications where there is no legal path forward

1002
01:54:14,000 --> 01:54:22,000
and no further authority within this board and going back and revesting them in a special process that allows these developers

1003
01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:26,000
to maximize their profit using now-resented densities.

1004
01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:29,000
This is an unconstitutional special privilege.

1005
01:54:29,000 --> 01:54:32,000
It violates the principles of equal protection and due process,

1006
01:54:32,000 --> 01:54:39,000
treating these two developers differently than all the others without a rational basis or legitimate public purpose.

1007
01:54:39,000 --> 01:54:45,000
The settlement agreement also violates the gift clause in the Idaho Constitution.

1008
01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:51,000
And what that means is this board has created a process that will allow the developer to significantly increase

1009
01:54:51,000 --> 01:55:01,000
their profits and land values using rescinded zoning densities without receiving any valid and commensurate public benefit and exchange.

1010
01:55:01,000 --> 01:55:05,000
This is an illegal gift and subsidy to these two developers.

1011
01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:13,000
Section 11 of the settlement agreement also sets the bar for attorney fees very low lower than what's allowed by law.

1012
01:55:13,000 --> 01:55:16,000
It says anyone who merely prevails gets attorney fees.

1013
01:55:16,000 --> 01:55:18,000
Again, this is an unequal bargain.

1014
01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:22,000
The county has not received any value or benefit and exchange.

1015
01:55:22,000 --> 01:55:27,000
If the board chooses to sign the settlement agreement, we will challenge it.

1016
01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:32,000
And we will raise all the issues of expertise, partake communications and open meeting law violations.

1017
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:38,000
Exchange between members of the Board of County Commissioners and representatives of Liberty LLC.

1018
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:40,000
So I would urge this board.

1019
01:55:40,000 --> 01:55:42,000
Please follow the process.

1020
01:55:42,000 --> 01:55:47,000
That has moved forward for every other developer who's chosen to seek judicial review.

1021
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:49,000
It proceeds through judicial review.

1022
01:55:49,000 --> 01:55:52,000
That is the path of least risk.

1023
01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:54,000
And honestly, it's the consistent path.

1024
01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:59,000
These two projects in all my years of practicing land use law in Teton County really,

1025
01:55:59,000 --> 01:56:06,000
really shined on their own for being uniquely incomplete and not complying with county law.

1026
01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:10,000
The safest path forward is to let them proceed through judicial review.

1027
01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:11,000
Thank you.

1028
01:56:11,000 --> 01:56:18,000
Okay, up next, Steve O'Connor on deck with Griffin.

1029
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:23,000
My name is Steve O'Connor.

1030
01:56:23,000 --> 01:56:25,000
I'm a little dricks.

1031
01:56:25,000 --> 01:56:33,000
And I oppose the settlement program for the Tressel and Wildflower Subdivision.

1032
01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:40,000
And mostly I oppose it because these developers seem to want to special treatment.

1033
01:56:40,000 --> 01:56:43,000
They don't want to adhere to any rules.

1034
01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:49,000
They've just missed their opportunity in the past.

1035
01:56:49,000 --> 01:56:55,000
And now they want to go into the new codes which I don't feel as fair.

1036
01:56:55,000 --> 01:57:08,000
And I also don't feel like I also feel that most of the taxpayers in this county would not appreciate paying for their

1037
01:57:09,000 --> 01:57:13,000
Researches that they need to do in the future.

1038
01:57:13,000 --> 01:57:16,000
Thank you for coming.

1039
01:57:16,000 --> 01:57:19,000
Okay, Griffin on deck.

1040
01:57:19,000 --> 01:57:22,000
Abby Miven.

1041
01:57:26,000 --> 01:57:28,000
Hi, my name is Whit Griffin.

1042
01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:30,000
I'm from Alta Wilding.

1043
01:57:30,000 --> 01:57:36,000
I'm a local high school student and I'm commenting on the juvenile curfew ordinance.

1044
01:57:36,000 --> 01:57:40,000
The main thing I wanted to bring up is...

1045
01:57:40,000 --> 01:57:45,000
They're...

1046
01:57:45,000 --> 01:57:50,000
Sorry, there's kids that are misbehaving in the valley.

1047
01:57:50,000 --> 01:57:53,000
And there's kids that are not doing the right thing.

1048
01:57:53,000 --> 01:57:58,000
But there's also a large number of people that are going to get groceries,

1049
01:57:58,000 --> 01:58:02,000
going out and out of the hangout with their friends, doing nothing wrong.

1050
01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:09,000
And I don't think that it is fair to shut down like all travel after 12 p.m.

1051
01:58:09,000 --> 01:58:12,000
for those kids that are doing the right thing.

1052
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:15,000
And like have the right to do that.

1053
01:58:15,000 --> 01:58:21,000
And especially in the summer when people are wanting to camp and be out.

1054
01:58:21,000 --> 01:58:27,000
And like, just enjoy the valley if it's not fair to everyone.

1055
01:58:28,000 --> 01:58:34,000
I also think that if a curfew was implemented,

1056
01:58:34,000 --> 01:58:40,000
I think it would be a wise decision to have either monthly or buy monthly regular meetings

1057
01:58:40,000 --> 01:58:43,000
to talk and discuss about how it's going.

1058
01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:52,000
Because I think that communication is valuable like not only in personal relationships,

1059
01:58:52,000 --> 01:58:54,000
but just like in a community like this too.

1060
01:58:54,000 --> 01:59:00,000
And if people were to be able to talk to each other and discuss how it's going

1061
01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:03,000
and things like the suggestions to change,

1062
01:59:03,000 --> 01:59:07,000
it could just help it go a lot better.

1063
01:59:07,000 --> 01:59:08,000
Thank you.

1064
01:59:08,000 --> 01:59:09,000
Thank you.

1065
01:59:09,000 --> 01:59:13,000
Appreciate that. That was great hearing from our youth.

1066
01:59:13,000 --> 01:59:17,000
Okay, Abby, Levin, and on deck, Toliet, Toliet.

1067
01:59:17,000 --> 01:59:29,000
Hi, my name is Abby Levin. I am a teen and student and a resident of Derrick's Idaho.

1068
01:59:29,000 --> 01:59:32,000
I would like to thank the commissioners for having me here today.

1069
01:59:32,000 --> 01:59:35,000
And I would like to comment on the juvenile curfew proposal.

1070
01:59:35,000 --> 01:59:40,000
So I feel like there are very little criminal issues in this town regarding teams.

1071
01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:43,000
I make this an appropriate ordinance to propose.

1072
01:59:43,000 --> 01:59:46,000
This ordinance doesn't feel in the spirit of the values I make our country great.

1073
01:59:46,000 --> 01:59:49,000
Our country was founded on the ideas of freedom.

1074
01:59:49,000 --> 01:59:53,000
How will this curfew give kids the chance to practice their freedom and learn?

1075
01:59:53,000 --> 01:59:57,000
Life experiences will also be taken away from many of these kids.

1076
01:59:57,000 --> 01:59:59,000
I believe it will create more conflict.

1077
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:04,040
Between minors and law enforcement, leaving a little room to come to a middle ground.

1078
02:00:04,040 --> 02:00:08,160
The teams will feel targeted, which will then lead to hatred and also the lack of collaboration

1079
02:00:08,160 --> 02:00:14,320
with law enforcement. This ordinance doesn't allow kids to be kids. I, from personal experiences,

1080
02:00:14,320 --> 02:00:19,600
I have very reliable friends. Of course, like if I'm going to be out in Jackson for whatever

1081
02:00:19,600 --> 02:00:23,520
reason past 12 in the morning, I'm not going to, my dad knows where I am, but I'm not going to call

1082
02:00:23,520 --> 02:00:28,880
him to wake him up and ask him to pick me up. I'm going to call a friend. So I feel like it's unreasonable

1083
02:00:28,960 --> 02:00:34,800
to punish my friend for being a reliable friend and a good person to not only me and my dad, making sure

1084
02:00:34,800 --> 02:00:40,880
I get home safe and themselves. So they should not be punished for that. Nor should I, maybe a little bit

1085
02:00:40,880 --> 02:00:48,080
more of you, but. And I would also like to address my huge concern with this. So with this

1086
02:00:48,080 --> 02:00:53,680
her few, I worry that a lot of kids, my age, will still want to break her few law and they will

1087
02:00:53,680 --> 02:00:59,840
want to go out and not in town because law enforcement mainly stays in town. So I believe that they

1088
02:00:59,840 --> 02:01:06,480
will go out to places such as felt and they will, like, they're around a lot of farm equipment and

1089
02:01:06,480 --> 02:01:12,320
a lot of kids like to drink. So if they're drinking out and felt and they're driving really fast

1090
02:01:12,320 --> 02:01:16,320
or they'll cough around, they're going to get in trouble. They're going to get her, they'll be further

1091
02:01:16,320 --> 02:01:22,880
from home and it'll just like, I feel like it'll create more destruction in those kind of areas.

1092
02:01:22,880 --> 02:01:30,720
I believe I would like to propose an idea of more maybe limits on certain places after hours,

1093
02:01:30,720 --> 02:01:36,320
like maybe a limit on the skate park. For example, not saying that that should be a thing, but just

1094
02:01:36,320 --> 02:01:42,240
instead of having a curfew, maybe limit places that teens can be and also not getting parents in

1095
02:01:42,240 --> 02:01:47,120
trouble for this, unless it is a serious situation where both parents and child could be harmed.

1096
02:01:47,120 --> 02:01:57,200
Thank you for your time. Thank you. Your parents know where you are. Okay, Tilea on deck, on Zoom,

1097
02:01:57,200 --> 02:02:04,640
James Weber and if anybody else in the room wants to speak and didn't, we'll just have you come up afterwards.

1098
02:02:05,600 --> 02:02:12,960
So Tilea, are you still here? Okay, James Weber on line.

1099
02:02:18,720 --> 02:02:29,840
Morning, I'm going to comment on action item 11.2 and there's still no details and it's still

1100
02:02:29,840 --> 02:02:35,040
completely lapsed any transparency and the biggest concern is that none of the previous

1101
02:02:35,040 --> 02:02:38,960
Mr. Weber, can you speak closer to your mic? It's a little hard to hear you.

1102
02:02:41,920 --> 02:02:48,160
Yeah, can you hear me now? Okay. Yes. Yes. My biggest concern is that none of the previous

1103
02:02:48,160 --> 02:02:52,480
public comments from last month have been addressed. There's still no staff report,

1104
02:02:53,360 --> 02:02:58,560
no background contact, and there's still no transparency or details as to why this is

1105
02:02:58,560 --> 02:03:05,360
the best interest of the county, as well as Tilea County taxpayers. To finish the settlement date

1106
02:03:05,360 --> 02:03:10,480
in the very first sentence of the agreement states December 8, 2024, so I'm assuming that's made an error

1107
02:03:11,680 --> 02:03:16,240
and if it's not, it'd be helpful to know why it's activated in 2024. Thank you for letting me comment.

1108
02:03:20,720 --> 02:03:26,080
Okay, so anybody else in the room, just be sure to stay your name.

1109
02:03:28,960 --> 02:03:36,240
Up at the mic, so we can all hear you. Hi back again. So my name is Despeederson. I used to live in

1110
02:03:36,240 --> 02:03:44,000
drinks, but unfortunately due to extenuating circumstances of not being able to live on the property,

1111
02:03:44,000 --> 02:03:51,840
we have to move on. This is in regards to 8.1, the temporary structures. More and more people are living

1112
02:03:51,840 --> 02:03:58,080
in their campers, because it's cheaper, it's easier, and because land is so expensive.

1113
02:03:59,040 --> 02:04:05,600
And I'm just trying to figure out why if somebody is renting property, why they can't live the way they

1114
02:04:05,600 --> 02:04:11,920
want to live. If they're not hurting anybody, they're not hurting the environment, they're doing nothing wrong,

1115
02:04:11,920 --> 02:04:20,560
other than working, and trying to save money to buy a property. Like, there's so many

1116
02:04:20,560 --> 02:04:25,840
campers that people are living in all over this county, all over the country, for that matter,

1117
02:04:25,840 --> 02:04:32,240
more and more people are doing it, because it's easier and it's cheaper. I just want to be able to live

1118
02:04:32,240 --> 02:04:40,640
and work here in the valley, and if I can't live on the property that I'm leasing, then I can't be here,

1119
02:04:41,360 --> 02:04:47,280
and I don't want to leave the valley, but it seems like more and more people are getting forced out,

1120
02:04:48,240 --> 02:04:54,320
and it's just not right. If I'm renting property, I should be allowed to live on it,

1121
02:04:54,320 --> 02:05:01,680
whether I live in a camp or not. And I like the way I live. It's easy, it's cheap. I'm fully self-contained.

1122
02:05:02,480 --> 02:05:09,120
We do, we have solar and generator for power. We haul in our water, because we have a water trailer,

1123
02:05:09,120 --> 02:05:15,040
we have a company that comes in from St. Anthony, and MJ's our black tank.

1124
02:05:15,760 --> 02:05:22,880
So, we're not hurting the land in any way, shape or form. And I'm just turned it. I would like to see it

1125
02:05:24,240 --> 02:05:32,800
see, I guess, the thing to change, so people can live, or if you're going to keep going after certain

1126
02:05:32,800 --> 02:05:38,640
people, it needs to be straight across the world, because I know other people that live the same way I do,

1127
02:05:38,640 --> 02:05:44,480
on somebody else's land, and they're not getting harassed. They're not being forced to move, but I am.

1128
02:05:45,760 --> 02:05:50,640
So, if there's going to be an ordinance, it needs either to be straight across the board, or not at all,

1129
02:05:50,640 --> 02:05:55,680
or change, so that way people can live, and work here in the valley.

1130
02:05:57,680 --> 02:05:58,160
Thank you.

1131
02:06:00,480 --> 02:06:01,600
Okay, anyone else?

1132
02:06:04,000 --> 02:06:09,520
And there, anybody else online? Raise your hand, turn your camera on.

1133
02:06:10,240 --> 02:06:21,280
Okay. Well, we appreciate everyone's participation. I think, I do want to say I apologize to

1134
02:06:21,280 --> 02:06:26,640
Emma for having her have to wake her daughter up, but as a point of order, the chair does have the

1135
02:06:28,000 --> 02:06:32,400
authority to move the gender around, and I did that for a reason, so that you could hear what the

1136
02:06:32,400 --> 02:06:37,280
prosecution could say, and just as importantly, so that they could hear what you had to say,

1137
02:06:37,360 --> 02:06:41,680
and I think it was the right thing to do, but I apologize for the convenience that made it

1138
02:06:41,680 --> 02:06:47,840
for anybody, and I apologize to our own staff for their times being pushed way back. We're kind of

1139
02:06:47,840 --> 02:06:54,400
too hour and behind now, but that's kind of a common denominator in this county's government.

1140
02:06:54,400 --> 02:06:57,440
But anyway, thank you for your time. Bailey, did you have anything you wanted to

1141
02:06:58,480 --> 02:07:01,520
add before I close this discussion?

1142
02:07:02,800 --> 02:07:06,880
I would just say, thank you, and I think this has been a really awesome discussion. I really appreciate

1143
02:07:06,960 --> 02:07:13,200
everyone who took the time to read these things and come in and offer ideas, and I actually

1144
02:07:13,200 --> 02:07:19,120
think they're taking notes. I think there have been some really awesome suggestions, and we're going to

1145
02:07:20,080 --> 02:07:26,080
back the office, and yeah, continue to think about some wording, and if anyone has any of

1146
02:07:26,080 --> 02:07:32,960
better ideas about specific language, by all means, send them our way. A lot of these things that

1147
02:07:33,600 --> 02:07:39,280
are very, very drafting legislation, very, very tough, because as kind of came up in the other

1148
02:07:39,280 --> 02:07:46,480
matter, you need to have things that apply equally, you can discriminate, you got constitutional, you know,

1149
02:07:46,480 --> 02:07:52,240
age-raised gender type things that you can include. It's very tough, so long story short, it's a work

1150
02:07:52,240 --> 02:07:58,720
in progress, and we tried hard to come up with good ideas, but there's still great ideas out there,

1151
02:07:58,720 --> 02:08:03,440
and keep them coming, if anyone has any other ideas that it would, they think should be considered.

1152
02:08:05,200 --> 02:08:11,840
Thank you. All right, commissioners, I don't know if commissioner James is on, commissioner

1153
02:08:13,440 --> 02:08:19,440
power did you have anything you wanted to comment on before we leave, not leave, but before not move on?

1154
02:08:20,720 --> 02:08:25,520
Yeah, I just wanted to thank everybody for, you know, a lot of very heartfelt comments,

1155
02:08:26,240 --> 02:08:33,440
it was pretty moving and powerful, and I think it was the Emily Billshire that brought up the

1156
02:08:33,440 --> 02:08:39,680
idea. We're pointing out that we already have a working group who gets together, monthly, working on

1157
02:08:39,680 --> 02:08:48,240
youth issues, so that might be a good vehicle for reviewing this and coming up with a good path forward.

1158
02:08:49,200 --> 02:08:56,080
Okay, all right, so with that, let's move on to item number six, there will be still a week.

1159
02:08:57,120 --> 02:09:00,720
Okay, six point one, public works upgrade.

1160
02:09:07,600 --> 02:09:09,840
Thank you for taking time to come in, Bailey, and

1161
02:09:19,120 --> 02:09:25,200
morning commissioner, sterile johnson public works director, I think we can be pretty quickly through my agenda.

1162
02:09:25,200 --> 02:09:30,080
I'm going to start with my public works report for some notables in there that I want to talk about.

1163
02:09:30,800 --> 02:09:37,920
Trial Creek Bridge update, Trial Creek Bridge, 9500 south between sea highway 33 and old Jackson highway.

1164
02:09:37,920 --> 02:09:43,200
We've been working on that, most of the summer. We've got all of the channel work done, the

1165
02:09:43,200 --> 02:09:47,520
abutments are done, we've got the bridge deck in place, they're working on putting

1166
02:09:48,080 --> 02:09:53,200
the guardrail on and then we're going to put a temporary wearing surface on that, the gravel wearing

1167
02:09:53,200 --> 02:09:59,600
surface will come back in the spring when the temps are back to where we can pave and we'll pave that

1168
02:09:59,600 --> 02:10:06,400
section from state highway 33 beyond the bridge. So you do foresee that being open and then

1169
02:10:06,400 --> 02:10:10,000
or if you should be open within the next two and three weeks. Yes, yes.

1170
02:10:12,400 --> 02:10:17,840
Talk a little bit about the search and rescue building update. This has been a piecemeal thing.

1171
02:10:17,840 --> 02:10:24,960
It's been frustrating for all parties involved. We started out with not enough money to do things

1172
02:10:24,960 --> 02:10:31,280
and we keep getting money, which is a good thing, but it just drags the contract on and it's been

1173
02:10:31,280 --> 02:10:38,000
drug out longer than it should have been. The good news is that we've identified funding to

1174
02:10:38,000 --> 02:10:43,440
pour a concrete floor. We're working on pouring that floor. It's going to be done in three pours.

1175
02:10:44,080 --> 02:10:50,640
Pour it one pour last week and we've got two this week and we should be done with the floor by the end of

1176
02:10:50,640 --> 02:10:58,080
this week and then we'll move on to installing the bathroom like we talked about, which gets search and

1177
02:10:58,080 --> 02:11:04,480
rescue in that building. Search and rescue has commented that they're not interested in

1178
02:11:04,480 --> 02:11:10,240
mobilizing or moving any of their equipment into the new building until everything's done. I

1179
02:11:12,560 --> 02:11:17,600
our road and bridge department has equipment that's outside and there's equipment from emergency

1180
02:11:17,600 --> 02:11:25,600
management that is occupying space at road and bridge that we could use to store equipment for the

1181
02:11:25,600 --> 02:11:31,520
winter so we may be moving some things around and asking emergency management to move equipment into

1182
02:11:31,520 --> 02:11:40,800
the building if that's okay with city building department in order for us to shuffle some things around and

1183
02:11:40,800 --> 02:11:50,080
get everything put away. I'm sure we'll talk more about that. The next item I have on here is the

1184
02:11:50,080 --> 02:11:56,960
snow plow request for 7,000 northwest west 7,000 north. We have a draft online and this draft was

1185
02:11:56,960 --> 02:12:05,280
created before I was even came on board with the county and it's a scoring system and it's it's

1186
02:12:05,280 --> 02:12:14,240
relies heavily on densities but it has some some some topics that include widths and shoulder

1187
02:12:14,240 --> 02:12:23,280
obstructions and a turnaround ability. Most of the folks that come in and ask us to add their road,

1188
02:12:23,280 --> 02:12:30,080
their county road to our county plow map don't don't meet the the minimum criteria showing on this

1189
02:12:30,080 --> 02:12:38,800
criteria rating sheet of 50. This one does. I don't know how to move forward. We've had conversations

1190
02:12:38,800 --> 02:12:44,800
with past commissioners. I've tried to move this thing forward. It's one of those things that gets

1191
02:12:44,800 --> 02:12:51,760
put on the back burner and then and then finally makes it way to the front. We get preoccupied. This

1192
02:12:51,760 --> 02:12:58,080
year it was with the road map and we're trying to clean up the road map before we address the county

1193
02:12:58,080 --> 02:13:10,320
plow map. Right now we're plowing as much as we can. We're plowing 250 miles. I think and in the county

1194
02:13:10,320 --> 02:13:17,360
map is put together and I've said this often. Our whole department is staffed around plowing efforts.

1195
02:13:17,360 --> 02:13:25,280
So if we add this this isn't an impossible ask but if we add this and there's going to be others

1196
02:13:25,280 --> 02:13:31,760
that are going to come in and there are others that are qualified in a scoring system to be plow.

1197
02:13:31,760 --> 02:13:41,600
So I hesitate to add this to the list but I don't know how else to proceed in getting others on the list

1198
02:13:41,600 --> 02:13:47,680
to where homes are developing in areas where they haven't been in the past.

1199
02:13:48,400 --> 02:13:58,560
Yeah, yeah. Maybe it's a I know the commissioner powers and James aren't here and maybe

1200
02:13:58,560 --> 02:14:03,200
it's a conversation to have it a later date when everybody's here and we can talk face to face.

1201
02:14:05,200 --> 02:14:12,560
Yeah, I think I think we need to know of what it would entail to do that and how it would impact

1202
02:14:12,560 --> 02:14:20,320
you guys and what the what the ramification would be so that we can make a logical decision and not only

1203
02:14:20,320 --> 02:14:26,400
I hear what you're saying about 7, 7, 7, 7, maybe there's other roads that actually score even higher than they do

1204
02:14:26,400 --> 02:14:31,680
that you're still not doing because they don't reach them anywhere you do with those. Right. It does create a props.

1205
02:14:34,240 --> 02:14:41,200
But I don't. I guess yeah, I can talk with Blaine. We can put something together

1206
02:14:41,200 --> 02:14:47,680
that shows the impacts in potential other areas that apply in the past where provide examples

1207
02:14:47,680 --> 02:14:54,640
of of asks that are similar to this that that that might create bigger issues than just this. Yeah.

1208
02:14:55,920 --> 02:14:59,760
Okay, we can we can we can try to put something on the next agenda for that.

1209
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:11,000
Okay. Commissioner powers, you agree with that? Yes. Yeah, that sounds good.

1210
02:15:11,000 --> 02:15:16,000
There's some action items coming up, so I won't go into these other two things, but solid waste.

1211
02:15:16,000 --> 02:15:25,000
A couple of notables are solid waste. Supervisor has prepared the fiscal year 2025 report.

1212
02:15:25,000 --> 02:15:41,000
Dan does a great job in putting together a summary of the previous fiscal year, and then rad is required to submit reports every quarter, and that is the report that they commonly submit.

1213
02:15:41,000 --> 02:16:01,000
In the annual report prepared by Dan, you'll see that our diversion is up from previous years, and it's a good thing, and I think he's crediting most of that to our sorting pad.

1214
02:16:01,000 --> 02:16:15,000
And the sorting pad building is a new addition, and it's been quite successful, and we expect even more success in the near future.

1215
02:16:15,000 --> 02:16:20,000
Questions about my report? Other items you'd like to talk about?

1216
02:16:20,000 --> 02:16:24,000
No, I assume you're leaving the last two, because there's actions, I don't want to.

1217
02:16:24,000 --> 02:16:29,000
Yes, there's action items. I don't have anything to do with commissioner powers.

1218
02:16:29,000 --> 02:16:37,000
No, I just want to thank Dan and Darel for continuing to work on that diversion rate. I think that saves a lot money.

1219
02:16:37,000 --> 02:16:43,000
So, good work there.

1220
02:16:43,000 --> 02:16:50,000
I may have deleted some things. What's next on?

1221
02:16:50,000 --> 02:16:58,000
So, I'll try to work my way through it, and not try to pull it up while I'm talking.

1222
02:16:58,000 --> 02:17:06,000
We have it in our fiscal year for this year to expire one of our cat, or not our cat, one of our motor graters.

1223
02:17:06,000 --> 02:17:19,000
We have a 2013 John Deer that we're proposing to turn in, and like I said, we budgeted for that in the fiscal year, 2026.

1224
02:17:19,000 --> 02:17:27,000
Budget session, it's in our road bridge, budget the first year of a five year standard five year lease.

1225
02:17:27,000 --> 02:17:35,000
What we're proposing is to trade the John Deer in lease this piece of equipment, at least for five years.

1226
02:17:35,000 --> 02:17:40,000
We've talked about this in the past and the lease agreement versus purchasing.

1227
02:17:40,000 --> 02:17:46,000
The lease agreement comes with maintenance and warranty for that five years.

1228
02:17:46,000 --> 02:17:51,000
We're required to keep the mileage or the hours down. We're confident that we'll keep that.

1229
02:17:51,000 --> 02:17:54,000
We've never had a problem keeping the hours down.

1230
02:17:54,000 --> 02:18:00,000
And what that gives us the opportunity to do at the end of the five years is purchase.

1231
02:18:00,000 --> 02:18:04,000
And we have done that in the past. We've just financed it for an additional five years.

1232
02:18:04,000 --> 02:18:09,000
Not something that's been common the last little while.

1233
02:18:09,000 --> 02:18:15,000
Lane can talk to you about death in his concerns about diesel engines.

1234
02:18:15,000 --> 02:18:24,000
And in the reasons more detail, the reasons why we have opted to go with leases in recent years.

1235
02:18:24,000 --> 02:18:40,000
But this action item is to trade and owned John Deer, 2013, motor grader in for a lease on a new 2025 catapult motor grader.

1236
02:18:40,000 --> 02:18:45,000
What's the estimated value of that 2013 that we owned?

1237
02:18:45,000 --> 02:18:50,000
The value they're giving us for is $60,000 trade and value.

1238
02:18:50,000 --> 02:18:55,000
I think that's a fair number.

1239
02:18:55,000 --> 02:18:57,000
You know where I'm going.

1240
02:18:57,000 --> 02:19:02,000
Does it make any kind of sense to figure out a way to keep that grader?

1241
02:19:02,000 --> 02:19:05,000
Or would we need another employee if we kept it?

1242
02:19:05,000 --> 02:19:12,000
We've kept motor graders in the past and like I said, we've migrated more towards leases than owning.

1243
02:19:12,000 --> 02:19:17,000
And even when we owned motor graders, we would lease them for the first five years.

1244
02:19:17,000 --> 02:19:20,000
Then we would take out a loan for another five years.

1245
02:19:20,000 --> 02:19:26,000
After about 10 years, the equipment gets extremely expensive to maintain.

1246
02:19:26,000 --> 02:19:34,000
Three or four years ago, we ran into some really heavy maintenance in Bois.

1247
02:19:34,000 --> 02:19:37,000
There's $40,000, $60,000.

1248
02:19:37,000 --> 02:19:40,000
We just don't feel like it's worth maintaining that once again.

1249
02:19:40,000 --> 02:19:41,000
That's my question.

1250
02:19:41,000 --> 02:19:43,000
Ask that 10 year mark.

1251
02:19:43,000 --> 02:19:51,000
Talking about snowing, we don't have an extra grader having, you know, don't just admit at some point that if it's not doesn't make monetary sense,

1252
02:19:51,000 --> 02:19:52,000
and it doesn't.

1253
02:19:52,000 --> 02:19:58,000
That's what we don't feel when we're done.

1254
02:19:58,000 --> 02:20:00,000
Questions?

1255
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:03,000
I don't think so.

1256
02:20:03,000 --> 02:20:06,000
Do you have any questions for we go to a motion?

1257
02:20:06,000 --> 02:20:07,000
Commissioner?

1258
02:20:07,000 --> 02:20:08,000
Powers?

1259
02:20:08,000 --> 02:20:10,000
No, no.

1260
02:20:10,000 --> 02:20:15,000
So I'd make a motion that we approved the 60-month lease of Western State's Calcutta

1261
02:20:15,000 --> 02:20:22,000
Pillar for the 2025 Cat 150 ADWD motor grader as presented.

1262
02:20:22,000 --> 02:20:35,000
The $60,000 year one payment to be paid from 202-00-8020.

1263
02:20:35,000 --> 02:20:37,000
I'll second that.

1264
02:20:37,000 --> 02:20:39,000
Move to the second.

1265
02:20:39,000 --> 02:20:41,000
All the favor?

1266
02:20:41,000 --> 02:20:42,000
Aye?

1267
02:20:42,000 --> 02:20:44,000
Okay.

1268
02:20:44,000 --> 02:20:46,000
Boating with unanimous for those of you.

1269
02:20:46,000 --> 02:20:47,000
Thank you.

1270
02:20:47,000 --> 02:20:49,000
Kim, what's the next one on the edge?

1271
02:20:49,000 --> 02:20:52,000
Waste collection, exclusive franchises agreement.

1272
02:20:52,000 --> 02:20:54,000
So this one should be pretty simple.

1273
02:20:54,000 --> 02:20:58,000
We've talked about this and we actually had a special meaning about the franchise agreement.

1274
02:20:58,000 --> 02:21:02,000
One of the first things we did was we eliminated sections,

1275
02:21:02,000 --> 02:21:06,000
section 20 of the original franchise agreement.

1276
02:21:06,000 --> 02:21:13,000
We talked about other things and we haven't had a chance to get with our waste collection

1277
02:21:13,000 --> 02:21:19,000
provider and hash out the details of the modifications to the agreement.

1278
02:21:19,000 --> 02:21:24,000
But what this does is it solidifies the conversation in the action item.

1279
02:21:24,000 --> 02:21:27,000
It memorializes the action item that was approved.

1280
02:21:27,000 --> 02:21:33,000
It's a simply a document that is an amendment or a men's, the original contract.

1281
02:21:33,000 --> 02:21:37,000
And all it does is it removes section 20 and it's entirety.

1282
02:21:37,000 --> 02:21:43,000
And we did talk about this and we all agree that this is the one part of the whole agreement.

1283
02:21:43,000 --> 02:21:46,000
We decided to move forward all right away.

1284
02:21:46,000 --> 02:21:47,000
Correct.

1285
02:21:47,000 --> 02:21:49,000
Questions on that one?

1286
02:21:49,000 --> 02:21:50,000
I don't.

1287
02:21:50,000 --> 02:21:51,000
No.

1288
02:21:51,000 --> 02:21:53,000
I don't either.

1289
02:21:53,000 --> 02:21:56,000
Okay, since I'm here, I'll make the motion again.

1290
02:21:56,000 --> 02:22:01,000
I'll make a motion to approve amendment A as presented.

1291
02:22:01,000 --> 02:22:06,000
We're removing section 20 from the original exclusive franchise agreement for collection and disposal

1292
02:22:06,000 --> 02:22:11,000
and materials in Teton County dated August 12, 2015.

1293
02:22:11,000 --> 02:22:15,000
Removal section 20 was discussed and approved on the September 23rd,

1294
02:22:15,000 --> 02:22:20,000
2025 special board meeting of the county commissioners.

1295
02:22:20,000 --> 02:22:21,000
I'll second that.

1296
02:22:21,000 --> 02:22:24,000
Moving to second any further discussion.

1297
02:22:24,000 --> 02:22:26,000
Commissioner James is still not back on.

1298
02:22:26,000 --> 02:22:27,000
Okay.

1299
02:22:27,000 --> 02:22:28,000
All in favor.

1300
02:22:28,000 --> 02:22:29,000
Aye.

1301
02:22:30,000 --> 02:22:31,000
Motion carries.

1302
02:22:31,000 --> 02:22:32,000
Thank you.

1303
02:22:32,000 --> 02:22:33,000
Thanks.

1304
02:22:33,000 --> 02:22:34,000
Thank you.

1305
02:22:34,000 --> 02:22:36,000
Law enforcement center heat system.

1306
02:22:36,000 --> 02:22:43,000
So the law enforcement center, we've talked about this and on the 24th of last month,

1307
02:22:43,000 --> 02:22:48,000
the Board of County commissioners declared this that the failed heating system at the law enforcement

1308
02:22:48,000 --> 02:22:50,000
center of state of emergency.

1309
02:22:50,000 --> 02:22:55,000
And what that provides me the benefit of doing is selecting a contractor,

1310
02:22:56,000 --> 02:22:59,000
exempt from public works bidding requirements.

1311
02:22:59,000 --> 02:23:05,000
Which would have drug this out or extended the selection process another three or four weeks.

1312
02:23:05,000 --> 02:23:10,000
So since that time we've been working or we've asked around the valley.

1313
02:23:10,000 --> 02:23:12,000
A really good source.

1314
02:23:12,000 --> 02:23:20,000
It turns out is is the school district maintenance supervisor.

1315
02:23:21,000 --> 02:23:31,000
He highly recommended premier engineer premier energy controls as.

1316
02:23:31,000 --> 02:23:41,000
HVAC company to work with to put a heating and cooling system together for the LEC and moving forward.

1317
02:23:41,000 --> 02:23:46,000
We've budgeted $250,000 for the replacement of that system.

1318
02:23:46,000 --> 02:23:51,000
We we suspected we were going to have to invest heavily in the HVAC system.

1319
02:23:51,000 --> 02:23:55,000
We didn't expect it to happen this soon.

1320
02:23:55,000 --> 02:24:05,000
The proposal that's in place is is installing eight individual heat pumps.

1321
02:24:05,000 --> 02:24:10,000
Commonly referred to as many split systems.

1322
02:24:11,000 --> 02:24:18,000
Each system has the ability to control four zones independent of each other.

1323
02:24:18,000 --> 02:24:23,000
So the installation of those eight units.

1324
02:24:23,000 --> 02:24:28,000
Purchase of the equipment installation of the system.

1325
02:24:28,000 --> 02:24:39,000
Renovating the air circulation so that it it works well with these many split or these heat pump units.

1326
02:24:39,000 --> 02:24:50,000
Electrical rewiring for the units and then we've talked to the roof company or the roof manufacturer and they.

1327
02:24:50,000 --> 02:24:59,000
We can preserve our warranty by going through them and this bid includes having them help us preserve that warranty.

1328
02:24:59,000 --> 02:25:08,000
So all in cost estimated for the system I've described is $257,430.

1329
02:25:08,000 --> 02:25:13,000
That's again $7,430 more than we've budgeted for.

1330
02:25:13,000 --> 02:25:19,000
I can find that even in this line item I think we may have enough in this line.

1331
02:25:19,000 --> 02:25:22,000
You said I've got $250,000 so you're in $250,000.

1332
02:25:22,000 --> 02:25:29,000
More at $250,000 or $257,440.

1333
02:25:29,000 --> 02:25:37,000
So there is $259 budgeted in that line item but none of that was designated towards new key cards.

1334
02:25:37,000 --> 02:25:42,000
And new key cards system.

1335
02:25:42,000 --> 02:25:44,000
This is more important.

1336
02:25:44,000 --> 02:25:50,000
I think we can find money to move around if we end up going if we end up going over this.

1337
02:25:50,000 --> 02:25:53,000
I don't know how I like to know where it's coming from.

1338
02:25:53,000 --> 02:25:57,000
So that extra $5,000 over the $250,000 here has to do with the roof.

1339
02:25:57,000 --> 02:26:02,000
And the warranty is that what you're saying or because what you had the breakdown I have is.

1340
02:26:02,000 --> 02:26:08,000
Mechanical to 11 make up area in 21 electrical 19 change for $252.

1341
02:26:08,000 --> 02:26:10,000
And then roof replacement.

1342
02:26:10,000 --> 02:26:13,000
Okay, so what's the roof that's what I did to see here.

1343
02:26:13,000 --> 02:26:14,000
Okay.

1344
02:26:14,000 --> 02:26:15,000
All right.

1345
02:26:15,000 --> 02:26:17,000
Oh, I should have kept going.

1346
02:26:23,000 --> 02:26:26,000
That seems good to me, Darrell.

1347
02:26:26,000 --> 02:26:29,000
Thanks for getting us done in short order.

1348
02:26:29,000 --> 02:26:31,000
Glad we got a pass forward.

1349
02:26:31,000 --> 02:26:34,000
I think I've heard a lot of good things about the mini split systems.

1350
02:26:34,000 --> 02:26:37,000
So hopefully that'll be a good, a good system for us.

1351
02:26:37,000 --> 02:26:41,000
Yeah, Darrell explained to me that one nice thing about this system.

1352
02:26:41,000 --> 02:26:45,000
Whereas when we lost part of this system in the last years,

1353
02:26:45,000 --> 02:26:48,000
it degraded the whole system.

1354
02:26:48,000 --> 02:26:53,000
And now if one of these goes out, it doesn't affect the rest of it.

1355
02:26:53,000 --> 02:26:56,000
And that is a good thing.

1356
02:26:57,000 --> 02:27:05,000
And the other positive to that is we can, we can, as we get each of the eight units online,

1357
02:27:05,000 --> 02:27:16,000
we can start flowing hot air into those zones in the building and not have to wait for it all to be done before we can start pumping warm air into the building.

1358
02:27:16,000 --> 02:27:19,000
Commissioner power, do you have that motion in front of you?

1359
02:27:19,000 --> 02:27:20,000
Do you want me to wait?

1360
02:27:20,000 --> 02:27:21,000
I do.

1361
02:27:22,000 --> 02:27:25,000
I want to say one thing before, Darrell, it might be a good idea.

1362
02:27:25,000 --> 02:27:35,000
Be good to track our, our lectures and usage before and after just to see if I think these things that they're pretty efficient.

1363
02:27:35,000 --> 02:27:39,000
So hopefully they'll save us some money on operating costs.

1364
02:27:39,000 --> 02:27:41,000
Right. Right.

1365
02:27:42,000 --> 02:27:48,000
I'll move to approve the purchase and installation of the wrong enforcement center,

1366
02:27:48,000 --> 02:27:53,000
eating and cooling system by premier energy controls as presented,

1367
02:27:53,000 --> 02:28:06,000
estimate what to exceed cost of 257,500 to be paid from 0,0001, 17,0005,000.

1368
02:28:06,000 --> 02:28:10,000
All second fat, all in favor?

1369
02:28:10,000 --> 02:28:12,000
Aye. Aye. Aye.

1370
02:28:12,000 --> 02:28:14,000
Okay. Motion carries. You're done.

1371
02:28:14,000 --> 02:28:16,000
It's been a while. One evening.

1372
02:28:16,000 --> 02:28:17,000
How?

1373
02:28:17,000 --> 02:28:19,000
Joe and bridge temporary housing next.

1374
02:28:19,000 --> 02:28:23,000
So we've talked about, this is another item we've talked about in the past.

1375
02:28:23,000 --> 02:28:32,000
Blaine has this year, our road bridge supervisor and road bridge department have more than ever folks that are

1376
02:28:32,000 --> 02:28:40,000
that are employed from the Rexburg area and having them up here on nights where we know that we're going to have to

1377
02:28:40,000 --> 02:28:48,000
plow the next morning instead of taking a chance that they can get back here from the Rexburg area in order to plow for us.

1378
02:28:48,000 --> 02:28:51,000
We've talked about securing some temporary housing.

1379
02:28:51,000 --> 02:28:55,000
We've had this conversation, I think, at the last meeting.

1380
02:28:55,000 --> 02:29:09,000
The most reasonable source we found is through reserving a room through the bond bronze buffalo temporary housing.

1381
02:29:09,000 --> 02:29:16,000
They have temporary housing in the summer and they offer that to employees and for employee housing.

1382
02:29:16,000 --> 02:29:23,000
They do it for the hospital and they do it for other companies in the wintertime.

1383
02:29:23,000 --> 02:29:34,000
What we're proposing is a two bath bunk that comes with a full, a two bed, a room with two bunks that comes with a full bath.

1384
02:29:34,000 --> 02:29:39,000
And then there's a common area for a kitchen.

1385
02:29:39,000 --> 02:29:42,000
Cost for this is 750 a month.

1386
02:29:42,000 --> 02:29:47,000
We're proposing to lease a room, December through April.

1387
02:29:47,000 --> 02:29:52,000
That puts us at $3,750.

1388
02:29:52,000 --> 02:29:57,000
And we have a contingency account in road bridge that is set at 5,000.

1389
02:29:57,000 --> 02:30:00,000
I'm just proposing we use that contingency.

1390
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:07,000
Insecure temporary housing for our employees so they can stay the night when we know that they're going to have to plow in one.

1391
02:30:07,000 --> 02:30:14,000
All right, we discussed this. I think this is a high priority for one or more months.

1392
02:30:14,000 --> 02:30:18,000
Commissioner power, any questions, comments?

1393
02:30:18,000 --> 02:30:20,000
No.

1394
02:30:20,000 --> 02:30:23,000
Well, yes. Let's get it done.

1395
02:30:23,000 --> 02:30:35,000
I would move to approve the road bridge temporary housing through the bronze buffalo from December through April at 750 a month as presented total cost of $3,750 to be paid from account $2,000.

1396
02:30:35,000 --> 02:30:43,000
Excuse me, $2,000, $2,000, dash 4, 2, 3, 2, 6.

1397
02:30:43,000 --> 02:30:45,000
I'll second that.

1398
02:30:45,000 --> 02:30:48,000
Move to second, all in favour? Aye. Aye.

1399
02:30:48,000 --> 02:30:50,000
Okay, motion carries.

1400
02:30:50,000 --> 02:30:52,000
My last action item?

1401
02:30:52,000 --> 02:30:54,000
Food compost, steady.

1402
02:30:54,000 --> 02:30:57,000
Oh, I've still got to go. I've got more.

1403
02:30:57,000 --> 02:31:01,000
Oh, that is. That's the tea time spring, so.

1404
02:31:01,000 --> 02:31:12,000
So we're required to come in front of the Board of County Commissioners every time we propose to apply for grant funding in, in, I think, in my opinion, the reason for this is,

1405
02:31:12,000 --> 02:31:21,000
so that the County Commissioners understand that any any fiscal impacts that's required of the county should we get these grants.

1406
02:31:21,000 --> 02:31:30,000
The tea time springs foundation, grant application is due on the 12th of this month, so it doesn't give them much time.

1407
02:31:30,000 --> 02:31:41,000
But TVCR has offered to write a grant or submit a grant on behalf of tea time county for a compost feasibility, a food compost,

1408
02:31:41,000 --> 02:31:53,000
feasibility study. They came to us last week, actually, they came to us a couple weeks ago and reminded me last week that I promised to put this on the agenda.

1409
02:31:53,000 --> 02:31:59,000
Our solid way supervisor Dan O'Donnell, hugely in support of this feasibility study.

1410
02:31:59,000 --> 02:32:06,000
The total amount that we're allowed to apply for through this grant opportunity is $20,000.

1411
02:32:06,000 --> 02:32:11,000
TVCR has estimated a study to cost $35,000.

1412
02:32:11,000 --> 02:32:16,000
They've committed to that that leaves us with a deficit of $15,000.

1413
02:32:16,000 --> 02:32:28,000
They've committed to matching what the county would match, so each entity, the TVCR in the county, would put up $15,000.

1414
02:32:28,000 --> 02:32:44,000
Each if we were to be awarded this grant and then we would have $35,000 for the food composting feasibility study.

1415
02:32:44,000 --> 02:32:53,000
I'm proposing that the $7,500 comes from our contractive professional services budget line item.

1416
02:32:53,000 --> 02:33:03,000
We have money in there right now in the road and bridge budget questions.

1417
02:33:03,000 --> 02:33:07,000
I'm going to leave this one up to you if you feel this is really a good idea.

1418
02:33:07,000 --> 02:33:09,000
I'm going to support you.

1419
02:33:09,000 --> 02:33:11,000
Yes, I think it is.

1420
02:33:11,000 --> 02:33:17,000
So it is a Dan hugely supports the idea of the feasibility study Dan O'Donnell.

1421
02:33:18,000 --> 02:33:22,000
Yeah, I think it's a great idea.

1422
02:33:22,000 --> 02:33:27,000
I was just wondering why our shared it would come out of road and bridge and not solid waste.

1423
02:33:27,000 --> 02:33:29,000
Is it say road and bridge?

1424
02:33:29,000 --> 02:33:31,000
It's solid waste.

1425
02:33:31,000 --> 02:33:32,000
Okay.

1426
02:33:32,000 --> 02:33:33,000
I'd like to ask.

1427
02:33:33,000 --> 02:33:35,000
Solid waste, commissioner, powers.

1428
02:33:35,000 --> 02:33:36,000
Okay.

1429
02:33:36,000 --> 02:33:37,000
All right.

1430
02:33:37,000 --> 02:33:39,000
I'll take it out of the room.

1431
02:33:39,000 --> 02:33:42,000
I can't remember it.

1432
02:33:42,000 --> 02:33:43,000
All right.

1433
02:33:43,000 --> 02:33:53,000
I'll make a motion to approve the Teton Springs grant application proposal for $20,000 to fund a food compost feasibility study as presented estimated

1434
02:33:53,000 --> 02:33:59,000
county match of $7,500 to be paid from account two to three to $0,000.

1435
02:33:59,000 --> 02:34:02,000
Yes, four, four, zero, zero, zero.

1436
02:34:02,000 --> 02:34:04,000
I'll second that.

1437
02:34:04,000 --> 02:34:06,000
Move in second it all in favor.

1438
02:34:06,000 --> 02:34:07,000
Aye.

1439
02:34:07,000 --> 02:34:08,000
Aye.

1440
02:34:08,000 --> 02:34:09,000
Motion carries.

1441
02:34:09,000 --> 02:34:10,000
That was quick.

1442
02:34:10,000 --> 02:34:11,000
That's all I have.

1443
02:34:11,000 --> 02:34:12,000
All right.

1444
02:34:12,000 --> 02:34:15,000
I'll thank you for me.

1445
02:34:15,000 --> 02:34:16,000
I don't think I do.

1446
02:34:16,000 --> 02:34:19,000
Commissioner, powers and equations of Darrell.

1447
02:34:19,000 --> 02:34:22,000
No, no, no, I'm good for now.

1448
02:34:22,000 --> 02:34:23,000
All right.

1449
02:34:23,000 --> 02:34:24,000
Thank you, Darrell.

1450
02:34:27,000 --> 02:34:29,000
All right.

1451
02:34:29,000 --> 02:34:32,000
Greg, you have 30 seconds.

1452
02:34:32,000 --> 02:34:33,000
Hello.

1453
02:34:33,000 --> 02:34:35,000
I thought we can pull that one off.

1454
02:34:35,000 --> 02:34:36,000
All right.

1455
02:34:36,000 --> 02:34:37,000
Good morning.

1456
02:34:37,000 --> 02:34:38,000
Good morning.

1457
02:34:38,000 --> 02:34:41,000
And a few items to go through eight exactly.

1458
02:34:41,000 --> 02:34:44,000
So, uh, start with the monthly report.

1459
02:34:44,000 --> 02:34:50,000
We interviewed 10 candidates for our IT intern and our state funded apprenticeship programs.

1460
02:34:50,000 --> 02:34:53,000
So that's a great response on interest on those.

1461
02:34:53,000 --> 02:34:56,000
Selected up for candidates and we're going to move forward.

1462
02:34:56,000 --> 02:34:59,000
The state one, uh, doesn't get approved by the board.

1463
02:34:59,000 --> 02:35:01,000
Because the state of prison, but that.

1464
02:35:01,000 --> 02:35:02,000
All right.

1465
02:35:02,000 --> 02:35:06,000
Local and intern one is being provided for later on in this meeting.

1466
02:35:06,000 --> 02:35:10,000
Regional hospitals have requested the regional emergency managers work with them to create an appendix

1467
02:35:10,000 --> 02:35:16,000
to our regional donation plan to include, um, handling mass casual incidents across the region.

1468
02:35:16,000 --> 02:35:21,000
So we are working to accomplish that with our hospital partners.

1469
02:35:21,000 --> 02:35:24,000
Um, Australian our first planning on January 8th.

1470
02:35:24,000 --> 02:35:27,000
There's no, for a answer on our is 2025.

1471
02:35:27,000 --> 02:35:30,000
Statement Security program grant money yet.

1472
02:35:30,000 --> 02:35:33,000
We are working on developing the projects.

1473
02:35:33,000 --> 02:35:35,000
The clock is ticking.

1474
02:35:35,000 --> 02:35:38,000
Um, so we have about nine months from now to get it all done.

1475
02:35:38,000 --> 02:35:40,000
Instead of the three years.

1476
02:35:40,000 --> 02:35:43,000
Um, so anyway, we're still kind of in the middle on that.

1477
02:35:43,000 --> 02:35:47,000
Um, because of our history with hosting several street classes,

1478
02:35:47,000 --> 02:35:50,000
we had, uh, the Norwich University of Playa,

1479
02:35:50,000 --> 02:35:55,000
Research Institute approaches to, uh, post one of their pilot programs for,

1480
02:35:55,000 --> 02:35:59,000
set of security and a resource constraint requirement for public utilities.

1481
02:35:59,000 --> 02:36:03,000
So, you hosting that in a genuine, adult falls.

1482
02:36:03,000 --> 02:36:06,000
Any questions on the report?

1483
02:36:06,000 --> 02:36:08,000
Back to the homeland grant.

1484
02:36:08,000 --> 02:36:11,000
Yeah, what is, what is that amount of grant?

1485
02:36:11,000 --> 02:36:14,000
What's it, what is it specifically for?

1486
02:36:14,000 --> 02:36:16,000
Yeah, there's a list of what you can.

1487
02:36:16,000 --> 02:36:17,000
Authorize equipment, nice.

1488
02:36:17,000 --> 02:36:18,000
Okay.

1489
02:36:18,000 --> 02:36:19,000
So.

1490
02:36:19,000 --> 02:36:20,000
Would it be mostly for equipment?

1491
02:36:20,000 --> 02:36:22,000
Yeah, this one, especially.

1492
02:36:22,000 --> 02:36:23,000
I just guess, just to short.

1493
02:36:23,000 --> 02:36:24,000
Turn around again.

1494
02:36:24,000 --> 02:36:27,000
It's like, we won't have time to do any kind of planning projects or anything like that.

1495
02:36:27,000 --> 02:36:30,000
We're just up in a by step and give the inverses faster.

1496
02:36:30,000 --> 02:36:31,000
We can't.

1497
02:36:31,000 --> 02:36:32,000
Good.

1498
02:36:33,000 --> 02:36:36,000
We're working with the first responder agencies on that.

1499
02:36:36,000 --> 02:36:37,000
Commissioner powers.

1500
02:36:37,000 --> 02:36:39,000
Any questions on the report?

1501
02:36:39,000 --> 02:36:40,000
No.

1502
02:36:40,000 --> 02:36:41,000
Okay.

1503
02:36:41,000 --> 02:36:42,000
All right.

1504
02:36:42,000 --> 02:36:44,000
Moving on to the first action item.

1505
02:36:44,000 --> 02:36:46,000
Email and online services renewal.

1506
02:36:46,000 --> 02:36:48,000
It's time to renew that.

1507
02:36:48,000 --> 02:36:52,000
Um, 37,000 budget funds.

1508
02:36:52,000 --> 02:36:55,000
It's actually a bit of a cost savings of what we thought it was going to be.

1509
02:36:55,000 --> 02:36:57,000
So, grateful for that.

1510
02:36:57,000 --> 02:37:00,000
Just donate the rest back to the journal fund if you would.

1511
02:37:00,000 --> 02:37:10,000
I don't have any questions on that.

1512
02:37:10,000 --> 02:37:11,000
Yeah.

1513
02:37:11,000 --> 02:37:12,000
I'm good.

1514
02:37:12,000 --> 02:37:17,000
I'll move to approve the renewal of our email and online services.

1515
02:37:17,000 --> 02:37:19,000
Or at 37,000 from account.

1516
02:37:19,000 --> 02:37:23,000
1-14-4-067.

1517
02:37:23,000 --> 02:37:24,000
All second fat.

1518
02:37:24,000 --> 02:37:25,000
All in favor?

1519
02:37:25,000 --> 02:37:26,000
I.

1520
02:37:26,000 --> 02:37:27,000
I.

1521
02:37:27,000 --> 02:37:28,000
Motion carries.

1522
02:37:28,000 --> 02:37:29,000
All right.

1523
02:37:29,000 --> 02:37:30,000
All right.

1524
02:37:30,000 --> 02:37:33,000
Next one is the T10 County AI policy.

1525
02:37:33,000 --> 02:37:37,000
Um, after careful research and consulting with the Idaho County's

1526
02:37:37,000 --> 02:37:40,000
Rest Management Program, our insurance provider.

1527
02:37:40,000 --> 02:37:42,000
And, uh, legal team.

1528
02:37:42,000 --> 02:37:47,000
We've come up with, uh, an AI policy to help our employees know how to navigate the

1529
02:37:47,000 --> 02:37:50,000
often murky waters of using AI in the workplace.

1530
02:37:50,000 --> 02:37:55,000
Uh, so we have that presented for the board for their, for your approval.

1531
02:37:55,000 --> 02:37:57,000
Um, you've tried to reach out.

1532
02:37:57,000 --> 02:37:59,000
You've actually talked about it in the Department of Meeting once as well.

1533
02:37:59,000 --> 02:38:01,000
Everybody had a chance to look at it.

1534
02:38:01,000 --> 02:38:03,000
Uh, I think we're ready to move forward.

1535
02:38:03,000 --> 02:38:04,000
That's all right.

1536
02:38:04,000 --> 02:38:06,000
I just skim through it.

1537
02:38:06,000 --> 02:38:08,000
It, it, it, it, it makes sense to you.

1538
02:38:08,000 --> 02:38:09,000
That's the important thing.

1539
02:38:09,000 --> 02:38:11,000
It looks, it looked, it looked fine to me.

1540
02:38:11,000 --> 02:38:13,000
But I, I don't really have any questions.

1541
02:38:13,000 --> 02:38:17,000
Um, I just know it's becoming more and more necessary.

1542
02:38:17,000 --> 02:38:19,000
I need to have the policy.

1543
02:38:19,000 --> 02:38:20,000
So.

1544
02:38:20,000 --> 02:38:22,000
I'm, I'm okay with it.

1545
02:38:22,000 --> 02:38:24,000
Commissioner powers.

1546
02:38:24,000 --> 02:38:25,000
Yeah.

1547
02:38:25,000 --> 02:38:27,000
I'm, I'm fine with that again.

1548
02:38:27,000 --> 02:38:29,000
I defer to Greg on this one.

1549
02:38:29,000 --> 02:38:30,000
Yeah.

1550
02:38:30,000 --> 02:38:31,000
Um.

1551
02:38:31,000 --> 02:38:33,000
That's all that I know anything about.

1552
02:38:33,000 --> 02:38:34,000
Okay.

1553
02:38:34,000 --> 02:38:37,000
I'll go ahead and make a motion to approve the T-time county.

1554
02:38:37,000 --> 02:38:40,000
AI policy dated December 2025.

1555
02:38:40,000 --> 02:38:42,000
As attached.

1556
02:38:42,000 --> 02:38:43,000
Okay.

1557
02:38:43,000 --> 02:38:44,000
Excellent.

1558
02:38:44,000 --> 02:38:45,000
I'll submit.

1559
02:38:45,000 --> 02:38:46,000
Okay.

1560
02:38:46,000 --> 02:38:47,000
All in favor.

1561
02:38:47,000 --> 02:38:48,000
Aye.

1562
02:38:48,000 --> 02:38:49,000
Okay.

1563
02:38:49,000 --> 02:38:50,000
Motion carries.

1564
02:38:50,000 --> 02:38:52,000
All right.

1565
02:38:52,000 --> 02:38:53,000
Next.

1566
02:38:53,000 --> 02:38:54,000
All right.

1567
02:38:54,000 --> 02:38:55,000
Uh.

1568
02:38:55,000 --> 02:38:56,000
Uh.

1569
02:38:56,000 --> 02:38:57,000
Uh.

1570
02:38:57,000 --> 02:38:58,000
Winner.

1571
02:38:58,000 --> 02:38:59,000
2026 semester.

1572
02:38:59,000 --> 02:39:00,000
IT.

1573
02:39:00,000 --> 02:39:02,000
Intern.

1574
02:39:02,000 --> 02:39:04,000
So you select your successful candidate.

1575
02:39:04,000 --> 02:39:05,000
There's a little time.

1576
02:39:05,000 --> 02:39:06,000
Handsome.

1577
02:39:06,000 --> 02:39:07,000
Uh.

1578
02:39:07,000 --> 02:39:08,000
Uh.

1579
02:39:08,000 --> 02:39:09,000
So 50 dollars an hour.

1580
02:39:09,000 --> 02:39:10,000
For 400 hours.

1581
02:39:10,000 --> 02:39:11,000
Um.

1582
02:39:11,000 --> 02:39:12,000
It's required for their degree program.

1583
02:39:12,000 --> 02:39:15,000
And it helps us out immensely in the IT department.

1584
02:39:15,000 --> 02:39:16,000
We're able to.

1585
02:39:16,000 --> 02:39:17,000
Uh.

1586
02:39:17,000 --> 02:39:18,000
Uh.

1587
02:39:18,000 --> 02:39:19,000
Transient top of all that issues.

1588
02:39:19,000 --> 02:39:21,000
That we get to face.

1589
02:39:21,000 --> 02:39:22,000
In the questions.

1590
02:39:22,000 --> 02:39:23,000
We did.

1591
02:39:23,000 --> 02:39:24,000
Yeah.

1592
02:39:24,000 --> 02:39:25,000
Yeah.

1593
02:39:25,000 --> 02:39:26,000
And we're pretty.

1594
02:39:26,000 --> 02:39:27,000
What do you have to do with the hiring?

1595
02:39:27,000 --> 02:39:28,000
I'm going to go to the job.

1596
02:39:28,000 --> 02:39:29,000
Gosh.

1597
02:39:29,000 --> 02:39:31,000
Power's in the questions.

1598
02:39:31,000 --> 02:39:32,000
Uh.

1599
02:39:32,000 --> 02:39:33,000
Nope.

1600
02:39:33,000 --> 02:39:34,000
Uh.

1601
02:39:34,000 --> 02:39:35,000
We'll move your approach.

1602
02:39:35,000 --> 02:39:36,000
Approach.

1603
02:39:36,000 --> 02:39:37,000
Approach.

1604
02:39:37,000 --> 02:39:38,000
Approach.

1605
02:39:38,000 --> 02:39:39,000
Approach.

1606
02:39:39,000 --> 02:39:40,000
Approach.

1607
02:39:40,000 --> 02:39:41,000
The.

1608
02:39:41,000 --> 02:39:42,000
The.

1609
02:39:42,000 --> 02:39:43,000
The.

1610
02:39:43,000 --> 02:39:45,000
The.

1611
02:39:45,000 --> 02:39:46,000
The.

1612
02:39:46,000 --> 02:39:47,000
The.

1613
02:39:47,000 --> 02:39:49,000
The.

1614
02:39:49,000 --> 02:39:50,000
The.

1615
02:39:50,000 --> 02:39:51,000
The.

1616
02:39:51,000 --> 02:39:52,000
You're.

1617
02:39:52,000 --> 02:39:53,000
This.

1618
02:39:53,000 --> 02:39:54,000
This.

1619
02:39:54,000 --> 02:39:55,000
This.

1620
02:39:55,000 --> 02:39:56,000
It's.

1621
02:39:56,000 --> 02:39:57,000
All the.

1622
02:39:57,000 --> 02:39:59,000
This.

1623
02:39:59,000 --> 02:40:00,000
That.

1624
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:03,000
All the.

1625
02:40:03,000 --> 02:40:05,000
I.

1626
02:40:05,000 --> 02:40:07,000
Okay.

1627
02:40:07,000 --> 02:40:09,000
Motion carries.

1628
02:40:09,000 --> 02:40:11,000
All right.

1629
02:40:11,000 --> 02:40:15,000
Uh.

1630
02:40:15,000 --> 02:40:17,000
Next action item.

1631
02:40:17,000 --> 02:40:18,000
Uh.

1632
02:40:18,000 --> 02:40:20,000
Uh.

1633
02:40:20,000 --> 02:40:25,840
group. There's going to be four or five IT related presentations for the commissioners and

1634
02:40:25,840 --> 02:40:31,680
folks. If you want to be there to help answer questions. This is just for you. Yeah. Okay.

1635
02:40:34,720 --> 02:40:40,400
Any questions on 18 minutes? All right. You have it in your travel budget. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to have an issue.

1636
02:40:40,400 --> 02:40:43,200
I think you're, especially if you're a charge of it. Yeah.

1637
02:40:43,200 --> 02:40:50,400
Yeah. Can you share your powers in your questions? Well, I was given a nice drink for

1638
02:40:50,400 --> 02:40:57,680
being such a, such a statewide leader. I'll move to approve Greg Adams to attend the IDOL

1639
02:40:57,680 --> 02:41:05,120
Association of Counties, meeting January 26th and 27th and Boise. I'll second that all in favor. I,

1640
02:41:06,080 --> 02:41:15,440
Aye. Motion carries. All right. Our next three action items are pretty special.

1641
02:41:17,040 --> 02:41:23,520
We have a chance to recognize some amazing people that work for the county that are moving on to the

1642
02:41:23,520 --> 02:41:29,040
next stage of their lives in retirement and have some resolutions recognizing them.

1643
02:41:35,200 --> 02:41:42,160
Okay. All right. All right. All right. You want to move. You want to go ahead to a different one. Start with Marine.

1644
02:41:42,160 --> 02:41:50,960
Okay. She's the longest serving person that we're recognizing today. And if it's okay with the board

1645
02:41:50,960 --> 02:41:56,480
if you could greet, I'd love to. As a solution and we'll shake their hands and you can high five until the

1646
02:41:56,480 --> 02:42:09,440
last minute. Let me just get to it here. Okay. Would you mind coming forward while we read this?

1647
02:42:09,440 --> 02:42:23,840
So we can recognize you. Thank you. Any of this was happening? We tried to

1648
02:42:24,800 --> 02:42:31,920
Greg tries to surprise everybody. Whereas Marine Green Chief Deputy Treasurer will retire

1649
02:42:31,920 --> 02:42:38,560
after more than 24 years about standing and Maritoria's Public Service to Teton County,

1650
02:42:38,560 --> 02:42:45,120
IDOL Treasury Treasurer Department and whereas Marine has begun her local career with key bank

1651
02:42:45,120 --> 02:42:51,840
formally value bank as a teller and whereas Marine further further her work experience as at the local

1652
02:42:51,840 --> 02:42:58,320
hospital and medical records then worked at American land title which become a lion's title

1653
02:42:58,320 --> 02:43:04,240
and the bank of commerce and whereas as a result of continued diligent work and demonstrated

1654
02:43:04,240 --> 02:43:10,400
ability she advanced her esteem career of increasing responsibility with her employment with Teton

1655
02:43:10,400 --> 02:43:17,280
County in 2001 in the Teton County clerk recorded department and whereas in recognition of her

1656
02:43:17,280 --> 02:43:24,560
excellent skills professionalism and commitment to hard work. Marine was hired and the

1657
02:43:24,560 --> 02:43:30,880
Treasurer Department in 2014 as a result of her diligent work concentrated customer focused and

1658
02:43:30,880 --> 02:43:37,600
perseverant she as continued her public service until now which is highly commendable. Teton

1659
02:43:37,600 --> 02:43:43,760
County is proud of her excellent dedication and her service in her tenure as Chief Deputy Treasurer

1660
02:43:43,760 --> 02:43:49,840
and whereas throughout her many years the public service. Marine has served Teton County and the

1661
02:43:49,840 --> 02:43:56,800
residence of Teton Valley with Fairness and Dedication whereas Marine has earned the admiration

1662
02:43:56,800 --> 02:44:02,480
respect of her co-workers and county leadership for her dedication and enthusiasm professionalism

1663
02:44:02,480 --> 02:44:07,360
since of humor and hard work. Therefore be it resolved that we the Board of County Commission

1664
02:44:07,360 --> 02:44:12,400
should hear by extent to more in-green. Our sincere and grateful appreciation for her dedicated

1665
02:44:12,400 --> 02:44:19,120
public service to Teton County and the residents of the Teton Valley. Our congratulations on her

1666
02:44:19,120 --> 02:44:24,960
well earned retirement and her best wishes to marine for continuous success happiness and good health

1667
02:44:24,960 --> 02:44:30,880
good health in the years to come. Board of Justice approved Board of Teton County Board of

1668
02:44:30,880 --> 02:44:36,400
County Commissioners. Thank you. Well let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's

1669
02:44:37,200 --> 02:44:43,280
I'd like to make a motion to

1670
02:44:44,320 --> 02:44:48,080
ratify this resolution as red for Marine Green

1671
02:44:51,520 --> 02:44:58,960
is there a second yeah second that and thank you so so much Marine really appreciate it. Thank you.

1672
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:15,000
Motion carries. Thank you. Now I'll shake your hand. Thank you very much for your work.

1673
02:45:15,000 --> 02:45:19,000
Next on a list is Kim Christianson.

1674
02:45:28,000 --> 02:45:34,000
Commissioner, would you like to do the honors on this one? Do you have it there?

1675
02:45:34,000 --> 02:45:43,000
So, whereas Kim Christianson will retire after more than 11 years of outstanding public service,

1676
02:45:43,000 --> 02:46:06,000
to take on county IDO, a censor department, and whereas Kim began her career with take on county in the Department of Motor Vehicles in 2014, and whereas, as a result of continued diligent work and demonstrated ability, she had thanks to career with the censor department as deputy assessors several years later.

1677
02:46:06,000 --> 02:46:26,000
And whereas, in reputation of her increasing responsibility, excellence, skills and professionalism, commitment to hard work, Kim transitioned to the position of senior deputy, as a result of her diligent work, she has continued her public service until now, which is highly commendable.

1678
02:46:26,000 --> 02:46:34,000
Deacon County is proud of her excellent dedication and public service in her tenure as senior deputy assessor.

1679
02:46:34,000 --> 02:46:48,000
And whereas, throughout her many years with Deacon County, Kim has served Deacon County in the residents, with her customer focus and dedicated public official public service.

1680
02:46:48,000 --> 02:47:04,000
And whereas, Kim has earned the admiration and respect of co-workers, the county leadership for dedication, enthusiasm, professionalism, sense of humor and hard work, therefore be it resolved that we, the Board of County Commissioners,

1681
02:47:04,000 --> 02:47:26,000
with your by extended Kim Christianson, our sincere and grateful appreciation of her dedicated public service to Deacon County, and the residents of Teacon Valley, our congratulations on her well-earned retirement, and our best wishes to Kim, or continue success, happiness and good help in the years to come.

1682
02:47:26,000 --> 02:47:37,000
Thank you. I'd like to move to ratify this resolution 2025-1208B for Kim Christianson.

1683
02:47:37,000 --> 02:47:39,000
I'll say that.

1684
02:47:39,000 --> 02:47:43,000
Okay, move in second and all in favor, aye.

1685
02:47:43,000 --> 02:47:44,000
Aye.

1686
02:47:44,000 --> 02:47:46,000
Motion carries.

1687
02:47:46,000 --> 02:47:47,000
Thank you very much, Kim.

1688
02:47:47,000 --> 02:47:55,000
Thank you.

1689
02:47:55,000 --> 02:48:09,000
All right, final one is Ron Krillard-Dini.

1690
02:48:09,000 --> 02:48:11,000
You've hiding back there.

1691
02:48:11,000 --> 02:48:15,000
Well, aye.

1692
02:48:15,000 --> 02:48:22,000
Okay, resolution 2025-1208C.

1693
02:48:22,000 --> 02:48:27,000
This is a resolution honoring Ron Krillard-Dini.

1694
02:48:27,000 --> 02:48:32,000
I don't know why I had a problem with that anyway.

1695
02:48:32,000 --> 02:48:40,000
Whereas Ron Krillard-Dini will retire after more than nine years of outstanding public service to Teacon County Idaho,

1696
02:48:40,000 --> 02:48:51,000
including his work in emergency management and with the Masido abatement district, and whereas Ron began his career at Teacon County in the engineering management department in 26th.

1697
02:48:51,000 --> 02:48:54,000
Thank you.

1698
02:48:54,000 --> 02:49:03,000
In the emergency management department, in 2016, bringing with him extensive experience from his work in California and Colorado,

1699
02:49:03,000 --> 02:49:11,000
and whereas Ron used his expertise to help protect the citizens and visitors of Teacon County from all hazards, including flooding wildfires,

1700
02:49:11,000 --> 02:49:23,000
a landslide, mosquito-borne disease, the impact of a solar eclipse, and global pandemic, and whereas Ron consistently demonstrated diligent diligence

1701
02:49:23,000 --> 02:49:32,000
and professionalism in preparing Teacon County for emergencies through managing homeland security grants, planning and mitigating mitigation projects,

1702
02:49:32,000 --> 02:49:44,000
disaster exercises and directing the Masido abatement district, and whereas Teacon County has proud of Ron's exceptional dedication and public service throughout his tenure as energy management,

1703
02:49:44,000 --> 02:49:49,000
emergency management technician and Masido abatement district director.

1704
02:49:49,000 --> 02:49:57,000
And whereas Ron has earned the admiration and respect of co-workers and county leadership for his knowledge, his policies, contracts,

1705
02:49:57,000 --> 02:50:03,000
resolution, exercise design, emergency operation, center management and hard work.

1706
02:50:03,000 --> 02:50:12,000
Therefore, be it resolved that we, the Board of County Commissioners, are here by extent to Ron Carl, thank you.

1707
02:50:12,000 --> 02:50:22,000
Sorry. Carl time, our sincere and grateful appreciation for the dedicated public service to Teacon County,

1708
02:50:22,000 --> 02:50:32,000
and the residents of Teacon Valley, and we offer our congratulations on his well-earned retirement along with our best wishes to Ron for continuous success,

1709
02:50:32,000 --> 02:50:44,000
happiness and good health in the years to come. I've always just known you as Ron.

1710
02:50:44,000 --> 02:51:01,000
I'll make a motion that we adopt or we adopt resolution 2025-128C, and we ratify the same for as as red

1711
02:51:01,000 --> 02:51:08,000
for Ron's retirement and recognition.

1712
02:51:08,000 --> 02:51:12,000
Yeah, I'll second that end. Thank Ron, very deeply.

1713
02:51:12,000 --> 02:51:16,000
All right, moved and seconded all in favor.

1714
02:51:16,000 --> 02:51:17,000
Hi.

1715
02:51:17,000 --> 02:51:19,000
Motion carries.

1716
02:51:19,000 --> 02:51:22,000
Thank you, Ron. We appreciate you, sir.

1717
02:51:22,000 --> 02:51:32,000
You've done anything else for me?

1718
02:51:32,000 --> 02:51:35,000
Not that I know of.

1719
02:51:35,000 --> 02:51:38,000
All right. Thank you very much.

1720
02:51:38,000 --> 02:51:39,000
Okay.

1721
02:51:39,000 --> 02:51:43,000
So, Commissioner, we got a little bit of eyes.

1722
02:51:43,000 --> 02:51:44,000
You think?

1723
02:51:44,000 --> 02:51:49,000
There are some items involved in it.

1724
02:51:49,000 --> 02:51:53,000
People who are here?

1725
02:51:53,000 --> 02:51:54,000
Yeah.

1726
02:51:54,000 --> 02:51:58,000
We have an executive session scheduled at 10.

1727
02:51:58,000 --> 02:52:03,000
We probably had to do that before we hear that.

1728
02:52:03,000 --> 02:52:16,000
We're going to say that we've got the appropriate to remind you that I don't know what to do.

1729
02:52:16,000 --> 02:52:19,000
There's a discussion about license drive.

1730
02:52:19,000 --> 02:52:22,000
There's a discussion about license drive in the agenda.

1731
02:52:22,000 --> 02:52:25,000
I understand the attorney for that party's president.

1732
02:52:25,000 --> 02:52:29,000
Okay.

1733
02:52:29,000 --> 02:52:32,000
Yeah, I think we probably should do that first.

1734
02:52:32,000 --> 02:52:35,000
Yeah, and then come back and try to get you up.

1735
02:52:35,000 --> 02:52:41,000
And then the other thing, we had a few years with just elected officials.

1736
02:52:41,000 --> 02:52:46,000
And we have one elected official, two elected officials out of town, one of those things.

1737
02:52:46,000 --> 02:52:48,000
Maybe we should just pass on that.

1738
02:52:48,000 --> 02:52:49,000
Yeah.

1739
02:52:49,000 --> 02:52:50,000
Okay.

1740
02:52:50,000 --> 02:52:51,000
Not postponed.

1741
02:52:51,000 --> 02:52:52,000
I'm not passed, but postponed.

1742
02:52:52,000 --> 02:52:53,000
Okay.

1743
02:52:53,000 --> 02:52:55,000
Thank you.

1744
02:52:55,000 --> 02:53:04,000
So let's go ahead and move to item 9.2, which is a discussion item on license drive.

1745
02:53:04,000 --> 02:53:16,000
And do we want to hear from you, Joshua, or do we want to hear from the applicant?

1746
02:53:16,000 --> 02:53:24,000
Or not applicant, but I could see it a little bit more.

1747
02:53:24,000 --> 02:53:29,000
I mean, is that should windy be here for this?

1748
02:53:29,000 --> 02:53:33,000
Okay.

1749
02:53:33,000 --> 02:53:56,000
I don't see it.

1750
02:53:56,000 --> 02:53:59,000
I'll apologize for us being behind.

1751
02:53:59,000 --> 02:54:00,000
I didn't.

1752
02:54:00,000 --> 02:54:02,000
I knew it the longest morning.

1753
02:54:02,000 --> 02:54:06,000
I didn't expect two hours that we'll get it done as best we can.

1754
02:54:06,000 --> 02:54:17,000
Try to accommodate everybody soon as soon as he's here.

1755
02:54:17,000 --> 02:54:19,000
So when they do we want to hear from you first.

1756
02:54:19,000 --> 02:54:29,000
Okay.

1757
02:54:29,000 --> 02:54:30,000
Okay.

1758
02:54:30,000 --> 02:54:37,000
Mr. Schultz is going to hear from you if you want first.

1759
02:54:37,000 --> 02:54:38,000
Okay.

1760
02:54:38,000 --> 02:54:39,000
Okay.

1761
02:54:39,000 --> 02:54:42,000
Here we go.

1762
02:54:42,000 --> 02:54:43,000
Okay.

1763
02:54:43,000 --> 02:54:44,000
Okay.

1764
02:54:44,000 --> 02:54:45,000
Yeah.

1765
02:54:45,000 --> 02:54:46,000
Okay.

1766
02:54:46,000 --> 02:54:48,000
Since you're behind all things, I'll definitely be conscious of time.

1767
02:54:48,000 --> 02:54:54,000
And and actually in the effort of I already sent a detailed timeline to the commissioners.

1768
02:54:54,000 --> 02:54:56,000
I never heard the county.

1769
02:54:56,000 --> 02:55:01,000
This field process starting back from May of 2024.

1770
02:55:01,000 --> 02:55:04,000
As well as, I think, you already noted policy.

1771
02:55:04,000 --> 02:55:07,000
My attorneys here and then fill one of my case.

1772
02:55:07,000 --> 02:55:10,000
And I'm not going to go through all that detail.

1773
02:55:10,000 --> 02:55:13,000
That's why I wanted to go ahead and send it to you.

1774
02:55:13,000 --> 02:55:14,000
So you can review it your time.

1775
02:55:14,000 --> 02:55:20,000
But what I wanted to do is just briefly cover just since we've had legal counsel and then look

1776
02:55:20,000 --> 02:55:23,000
or I think we do have a resolution here at the end.

1777
02:55:23,000 --> 02:55:27,000
But just so you can kind of get an idea of kind of the way the process been.

1778
02:55:27,000 --> 02:55:32,000
If that's acceptable about you.

1779
02:55:32,000 --> 02:55:33,000
Okay.

1780
02:55:33,000 --> 02:55:35,000
So I'm going to do is just start at July 3rd.

1781
02:55:35,000 --> 02:55:39,000
That's when Mr. Rollins has pulled in and he had contacted us.

1782
02:55:39,000 --> 02:55:43,000
So let us know you'll be the point of contact for the county going forward.

1783
02:55:43,000 --> 02:55:48,000
And then sorry about point we'd reached out for basically some options.

1784
02:55:48,000 --> 02:55:51,000
Because what we're doing is trying to get the C about process.

1785
02:55:51,000 --> 02:55:52,000
Here's a remedy.

1786
02:55:52,000 --> 02:55:54,000
Because we do know that we've had some errors in the past.

1787
02:55:54,000 --> 02:55:57,000
And we're just trying to repeat that to move forward.

1788
02:55:57,000 --> 02:56:02,000
But August 19th, we heard back from him and at that point it seemed like the county was open

1789
02:56:02,000 --> 02:56:04,000
to an infrared inspection.

1790
02:56:04,000 --> 02:56:08,000
And so we started working on that process of working with vendors for that.

1791
02:56:08,000 --> 02:56:15,000
But once we did that, the main concern for the county really has been the demise of all the firewall.

1792
02:56:15,000 --> 02:56:17,000
There wasn't enough temperature variance.

1793
02:56:17,000 --> 02:56:21,000
So the way that is we actually pivoted and did an X-ray inspection.

1794
02:56:21,000 --> 02:56:27,000
And we utilized the inspector out of Boise that was referred to as biogenaries.

1795
02:56:27,000 --> 02:56:36,000
And actually this inspector, this inspector actually done some work for fields on home's 30-time reserve.

1796
02:56:36,000 --> 02:56:38,000
So he's a known commodity.

1797
02:56:38,000 --> 02:56:41,000
So we were optimistic about that.

1798
02:56:41,000 --> 02:56:47,000
But we moved to August 20th, August 28th to what the county knew that we were setting that up for September 4th.

1799
02:56:47,000 --> 02:56:51,000
So they can attend a feedback and never heard anything back.

1800
02:56:51,000 --> 02:56:54,000
But we went ahead and proceeded with that inspection.

1801
02:56:54,000 --> 02:56:59,000
Just again, since he was a referral from the county, we thought we were safe with that.

1802
02:57:00,000 --> 02:57:07,000
911, we delivered that inspection to Andrew then on October 2nd.

1803
02:57:07,000 --> 02:57:11,000
We received a response back from Andrew and from Dan.

1804
02:57:11,000 --> 02:57:16,000
It seemed pretty optimistic at that point that we were able to list some information from it.

1805
02:57:16,000 --> 02:57:18,000
But still had some questions.

1806
02:57:18,000 --> 02:57:24,000
We might have to open up some walls, different things like that, which we are absolutely open to do.

1807
02:57:24,000 --> 02:57:32,000
However, October 9th, we got another response that nobody actually inspection would not be any benefit.

1808
02:57:32,000 --> 02:57:37,000
And we needed to work with our engineer to have them advise on how to inspect.

1809
02:57:37,000 --> 02:57:43,000
October 13th, we requested a commissioner meeting at that point.

1810
02:57:43,000 --> 02:57:46,000
But we never did get put on one.

1811
02:57:47,000 --> 02:57:55,000
Then we got to November 5th and still not time we really hadn't had any resolution on kind of that October 9th.

1812
02:57:55,000 --> 02:58:07,000
But I worked with our engineer and he actually did go ahead and put together an engineer letter of how to inspect the property to make sure the structural integrity of the property is met.

1813
02:58:07,000 --> 02:58:11,000
Then on 1110, we got feedback on that.

1814
02:58:11,000 --> 02:58:13,000
Just three main concerns.

1815
02:58:13,000 --> 02:58:16,000
One is didn't address the firewall.

1816
02:58:16,000 --> 02:58:22,000
Two, some concerns were on that he was taken into a section that it was built to plans inspects,

1817
02:58:22,000 --> 02:58:26,000
which we really didn't have a reason to say it wasn't at the real world.

1818
02:58:26,000 --> 02:58:33,000
In an engineer noted to open up a couple places within the property to validate a couple of things.

1819
02:58:33,000 --> 02:58:39,000
But there was concern because it was left open to the builder to determine where to open those up.

1820
02:58:39,000 --> 02:58:43,000
And that was mainly just so as minimally evasive to the property.

1821
02:58:43,000 --> 02:58:48,000
So 1117, the engineer took another stab at it.

1822
02:58:48,000 --> 02:58:52,000
And on December 1st, we got feedback on that.

1823
02:58:52,000 --> 02:58:57,000
There were still concerns that we didn't address the firewall.

1824
02:58:57,000 --> 02:59:04,000
And then Andrew mentioned that there were some photos he was expecting from the county, which I think I had all those,

1825
02:59:04,000 --> 02:59:10,000
because I'd set up a Google Drive for all of us and all the ones that were provided to us and I've given those to Andrew.

1826
02:59:10,000 --> 02:59:16,000
And then most recently, and actually this is what's just got a look at local address on time.

1827
02:59:16,000 --> 02:59:26,000
As of yesterday, I actually have a 30-10 from our engineer and he specifically addresses the firewall and where to address different points to address the,

1828
02:59:26,000 --> 02:59:29,000
you know, structural integrity of the property again.

1829
02:59:29,000 --> 02:59:35,000
And I delivered that to Andrew yesterday in which I think he was delivering it to the county today.

1830
02:59:35,000 --> 02:59:41,000
And so, so basically, the summation of all of us is we're just hoping to kind of give you this five months snapshot,

1831
02:59:41,000 --> 02:59:45,000
gives you a great snapshot of local last year and a half spent on this.

1832
02:59:45,000 --> 02:59:51,000
And all we're doing is just looking to hopefully have a resolute direction on how to remedy this.

1833
02:59:51,000 --> 02:59:55,000
And most importantly, that we're just able to work in it.

1834
02:59:55,000 --> 03:00:00,000
You know, timely or responsive manner because this has taken such a long time.

1835
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:20,000
But that engineer report also as well. I email that to you with the timeline. So if you want to review that later, again, being conscious of the time. So that was the main thing. I wanted to cover all or, or fill. Is there anything that you wanted to add or maybe I missed?

1836
03:00:20,000 --> 03:00:26,000
I don't know, maybe I need, maybe I was parlocked or, well.

1837
03:00:26,000 --> 03:00:32,000
I think you're on the other side, but I don't think we can't hear you very well.

1838
03:00:32,000 --> 03:00:36,000
Oh, yeah, I don't think it's underneath in a car.

1839
03:00:36,000 --> 03:00:38,000
Okay.

1840
03:00:38,000 --> 03:00:40,000
You're at the red dam.

1841
03:00:44,000 --> 03:00:46,000
Okay, finally let me hear.

1842
03:00:46,000 --> 03:00:55,000
So I'm mostly just here observing. I will let the commissioners know that I've been working closely with Mr. Rollings and it's been a pleasure to work with him.

1843
03:00:55,000 --> 03:01:03,000
I think at this point, I would reserve the right to say something that Mr. Schultz covered what we had to say.

1844
03:01:03,000 --> 03:01:09,000
So we're just really helpful. We can move this along. There are some real deadlines on our end.

1845
03:01:09,000 --> 03:01:15,000
And we just need to know what the hurdle is. We need to know how we can overcome it because there's some real damage that could occur to my client.

1846
03:01:15,000 --> 03:01:19,000
But that's all I have in this. You have specific questions for me.

1847
03:01:19,000 --> 03:01:26,000
I think Eric's better qualified. He's been on the ground. He knows exactly what's going on here.

1848
03:01:26,000 --> 03:01:30,000
Okay.

1849
03:01:30,000 --> 03:01:34,000
Wendy, do you have any comments there?

1850
03:01:34,000 --> 03:01:40,000
So, some specific direction.

1851
03:01:40,000 --> 03:01:50,000
Then I had not had a chance to look at the most recent correspondence the email. I know it's in my inbox that I'm working through.

1852
03:01:50,000 --> 03:01:54,000
Although this came in through the weekend before I get to that one.

1853
03:01:54,000 --> 03:02:03,000
I will look at it today and see what it has on it and then consult with Andrew and make sure we're all on the same page to get a response.

1854
03:02:03,000 --> 03:02:07,000
Okay.

1855
03:02:07,000 --> 03:02:22,000
Eric, I just want you to know as missioners, we're aware of this. I was in one of the first meetings with the contractor and building department, director and Dan Reyes.

1856
03:02:22,000 --> 03:02:24,000
Yeah.

1857
03:02:24,000 --> 03:02:29,000
There's no emphasis to see this come to a close better than I do. I just think,

1858
03:02:29,000 --> 03:02:31,000
Well, are we all going to read that right?

1859
03:02:31,000 --> 03:02:32,000
Yeah.

1860
03:02:32,000 --> 03:02:38,000
There are some specific requirements that have been there since the first, since we're in the very first meeting.

1861
03:02:38,000 --> 03:02:43,000
I think there was a question at one point as to, and frankly, if I'm wrong,

1862
03:02:43,000 --> 03:02:53,000
that we asked for an engineer to look at it and document that it was, in fact, safe and proper.

1863
03:02:53,000 --> 03:03:01,000
And I think he took another avenue and took pictures and then wanted us to verify from what he gave us.

1864
03:03:01,000 --> 03:03:14,000
And I think part of the problem has been it's, we didn't feel we were qualified or had the responsibility to look at those pictures and say,

1865
03:03:14,000 --> 03:03:20,000
Okay, it's okay. We were banking on a structural engineer to do that.

1866
03:03:21,000 --> 03:03:31,000
I'm a structural engineer and or an architect to help us verify what we should have been able to see during construction.

1867
03:03:31,000 --> 03:03:33,000
I think that's where the real hiccup is.

1868
03:03:33,000 --> 03:03:36,000
Yeah, that's right.

1869
03:03:36,000 --> 03:03:44,000
And having seen multiple locations in some of the photographs that we have that we can see construction was not done.

1870
03:03:44,000 --> 03:03:52,000
According to the plans that were approved leads us then to our concern about what other areas might have been done in similar fashion.

1871
03:03:52,000 --> 03:04:02,000
So hopefully the email today will have a little bit more information from the engineer and we can keep plugging away on it.

1872
03:04:02,000 --> 03:04:13,000
But from our standpoint, we will do our very best and you have us all backing you from the point of we want to get it done and we will move as rapidly as we possibly can.

1873
03:04:13,000 --> 03:04:17,000
That's all we can ask for. I do appreciate it.

1874
03:04:17,000 --> 03:04:18,000
Okay.

1875
03:04:18,000 --> 03:04:19,000
Thank you.

1876
03:04:19,000 --> 03:04:25,000
All right. Anything else before we leave, you ever want to say?

1877
03:04:25,000 --> 03:04:29,000
Okay.

1878
03:04:29,000 --> 03:04:31,000
Well, thank you.

1879
03:04:31,000 --> 03:04:33,000
Appreciate it.

1880
03:04:33,000 --> 03:04:34,000
Okay.

1881
03:04:34,000 --> 03:04:42,000
So, let's move, go ahead and move to executive section.

1882
03:04:42,000 --> 03:04:46,000
And then session.

1883
03:04:46,000 --> 03:04:50,000
For Idaho code.

1884
03:04:50,000 --> 03:04:52,000
Or is it here? Or yeah.

1885
03:04:52,000 --> 03:04:57,000
74 dash 206 dash 1 dash f for legal.

1886
03:04:57,000 --> 03:05:01,000
And if Ron's going to be in there, shall I have him come on.

1887
03:05:01,000 --> 03:05:08,000
Should we wait for him to vote or can he can we vote to move in?

1888
03:05:08,000 --> 03:05:11,000
Or could he be going in there?

1889
03:05:11,000 --> 03:05:16,000
Can Ron join us or do you need to be here for the vote to go into executive session?

1890
03:05:16,000 --> 03:05:20,000
No.

1891
03:05:20,000 --> 03:05:22,000
We can do this.

1892
03:05:22,000 --> 03:05:24,000
We have a whole more present.

1893
03:05:24,000 --> 03:05:26,000
We know that the more can do that to go into executive session.

1894
03:05:26,000 --> 03:05:27,000
All right.

1895
03:05:27,000 --> 03:05:31,000
Let's see if we can get him to move back online.

1896
03:05:31,000 --> 03:05:33,000
We're a quick.

1897
03:05:33,000 --> 03:05:39,000
And then we're going to have to have you zoom in and take your mouth out.

1898
03:05:39,000 --> 03:05:40,000
Okay.

1899
03:05:40,000 --> 03:06:01,000
Well, we can just go in.

1900
03:06:01,000 --> 03:06:03,000
We're out of here.

1901
03:06:03,000 --> 03:06:10,000
I'll get you one more, and we'll see what happens.

1902
03:06:10,000 --> 03:06:18,000
You could've been in his backstroke and else.

1903
03:06:18,000 --> 03:06:19,000
Okay.

1904
03:06:19,000 --> 03:06:21,000
I think we have to do what we've got to do.

1905
03:06:21,000 --> 03:06:26,000
So I've made a motion to move into executive session.

1906
03:06:26,000 --> 03:06:29,000
Is there a second?

1907
03:06:30,000 --> 03:06:31,000
I'll second that.

1908
03:06:31,000 --> 03:06:32,000
Okay.

1909
03:06:32,000 --> 03:06:33,000
Rook all vote.

1910
03:06:33,000 --> 03:06:34,000
Yes.

1911
03:06:34,000 --> 03:06:35,000
Yes.

1912
03:06:35,000 --> 03:06:36,000
Yes.

1913
03:06:36,000 --> 03:06:37,000
Yes.

1914
03:06:37,000 --> 03:06:38,000
Yes.

1915
03:06:38,000 --> 03:06:39,000
Yes.

1916
03:06:39,000 --> 03:06:40,000
Yes.

1917
03:06:40,000 --> 03:06:41,000
Okay.

1918
03:06:41,000 --> 03:06:42,000
So.

1919
03:06:42,000 --> 03:06:43,000
Let's.

1920
03:06:44,000 --> 03:06:47,000
So.

1921
03:06:47,000 --> 03:06:48,000
That.

1922
03:06:48,000 --> 03:06:49,000
That.

1923
03:06:49,000 --> 03:06:50,000
That.

1924
03:06:50,000 --> 03:06:51,000
That.

1925
03:06:51,000 --> 03:06:52,000
That.

1926
03:06:52,000 --> 03:06:53,000
That.

1927
03:06:53,000 --> 03:06:54,000
That.

1928
03:06:54,000 --> 03:06:55,000
That.

1929
03:06:55,000 --> 03:06:59,000
There.

1930
03:06:59,000 --> 03:07:00,000
Just under the.

1931
03:07:00,000 --> 03:07:04,000
I think we're going to have to eat in public today.

1932
03:07:04,000 --> 03:07:05,000
Yeah.

1933
03:07:05,000 --> 03:07:06,000
We are recording.

1934
03:07:06,000 --> 03:07:07,000
Yeah.

1935
03:07:08,000 --> 03:07:09,000
There.

1936
03:07:09,000 --> 03:07:10,000
There.

1937
03:07:10,000 --> 03:07:11,000
There.

1938
03:07:11,000 --> 03:07:13,000
We'll just get back here.

1939
03:07:17,000 --> 03:07:18,000
Okay.

1940
03:07:18,000 --> 03:07:19,000
So.

1941
03:07:19,000 --> 03:07:21,000
You have done.

1942
03:07:21,000 --> 03:07:23,000
That.

1943
03:07:23,000 --> 03:07:24,000
You like.

1944
03:07:24,000 --> 03:07:25,000
Right.

1945
03:07:25,000 --> 03:07:26,000
Right.

1946
03:07:34,000 --> 03:07:35,000
Oh.

1947
03:07:35,000 --> 03:07:45,000
All right.

1948
03:07:45,000 --> 03:07:46,000
We're back live.

1949
03:07:46,000 --> 03:07:47,000
We'll.

1950
03:07:47,000 --> 03:07:52,000
Make a motion to come out of executive session.

1951
03:07:52,000 --> 03:07:53,000
There.

1952
03:07:53,000 --> 03:07:54,000
Second.

1953
03:07:54,000 --> 03:07:55,000
Second.

1954
03:07:55,000 --> 03:07:56,000
Okay.

1955
03:07:56,000 --> 03:07:58,000
All in favor.

1956
03:07:58,000 --> 03:08:00,000
I.

1957
03:08:00,000 --> 03:08:01,000
All right.

1958
03:08:01,000 --> 03:08:02,000
Okay.

1959
03:08:02,000 --> 03:08:04,000
So we're now going to move.

1960
03:08:05,000 --> 03:08:16,000
I think because we're so late and I think everybody that is left here.

1961
03:08:16,000 --> 03:08:21,000
Is looking at.

1962
03:08:21,000 --> 03:08:23,000
11.2.

1963
03:08:23,000 --> 03:08:26,000
Let's go ahead and move to there.

1964
03:08:26,000 --> 03:08:29,000
So you don't have to sit and wait on as any longer.

1965
03:08:29,000 --> 03:08:32,000
And my apologies.

1966
03:08:32,000 --> 03:08:33,000
Okay.

1967
03:08:33,000 --> 03:08:37,000
So.

1968
03:08:37,000 --> 03:08:43,000
Item 11.2 is a settlement agreement with.

1969
03:08:43,000 --> 03:08:45,000
Liberty LLC.

1970
03:08:45,000 --> 03:08:47,000
And Derby development.

1971
03:08:47,000 --> 03:08:48,000
For stressors and wire.

1972
03:08:48,000 --> 03:08:49,000
Wild.

1973
03:08:49,000 --> 03:08:51,000
Wild flower subdivision.

1974
03:08:51,000 --> 03:08:52,000
Applications.

1975
03:08:52,000 --> 03:09:02,000
Do you want to hear from Joshua.

1976
03:09:03,000 --> 03:09:05,000
Commission powers.

1977
03:09:05,000 --> 03:09:07,000
On the settlement agreement?

1978
03:09:07,000 --> 03:09:08,000
Yeah.

1979
03:09:08,000 --> 03:09:09,000
On.

1980
03:09:09,000 --> 03:09:10,000
I'm.

1981
03:09:10,000 --> 03:09:11,000
I'm.

1982
03:09:11,000 --> 03:09:12,000
I'm good.

1983
03:09:12,000 --> 03:09:13,000
Okay.

1984
03:09:13,000 --> 03:09:14,000
Yeah.

1985
03:09:14,000 --> 03:09:16,000
Was he got something new to.

1986
03:09:16,000 --> 03:09:17,000
I can.

1987
03:09:17,000 --> 03:09:18,000
Add.

1988
03:09:20,000 --> 03:09:21,000
Okay.

1989
03:09:21,000 --> 03:09:22,000
I'll go ahead and.

1990
03:09:22,000 --> 03:09:24,000
Let's see if I can find.

1991
03:09:32,000 --> 03:10:01,000
I can't find that motion.

1992
03:10:01,000 --> 03:10:09,000
But I think I can make one.

1993
03:10:09,000 --> 03:10:13,000
With.

1994
03:10:13,000 --> 03:10:16,000
Consideration of item number 11.2.

1995
03:10:16,000 --> 03:10:21,000
I would like to make a motion to.

1996
03:10:21,000 --> 03:10:27,000
Continue this action until the December 22 meeting.

1997
03:10:27,000 --> 03:10:30,000
For for further.

1998
03:10:30,000 --> 03:10:32,000
Legal.

1999
03:10:32,000 --> 03:10:34,000
Consultation.

2000
03:10:34,000 --> 03:10:37,000
Does that cover it.

2001
03:10:37,000 --> 03:10:39,000
Is that.

2002
03:10:39,000 --> 03:10:40,000
Yeah.

2003
03:10:40,000 --> 03:10:41,000
I'll second that.

2004
03:10:41,000 --> 03:10:42,000
Okay.

2005
03:10:42,000 --> 03:10:44,000
We've been second it all in favor.

2006
03:10:44,000 --> 03:10:45,000
I.

2007
03:10:45,000 --> 03:10:46,000
I.

2008
03:10:46,000 --> 03:10:47,000
Thank you.

2009
03:10:47,000 --> 03:10:48,000
Motion carries.

2010
03:10:48,000 --> 03:10:49,000
Sorry for that guys.

2011
03:10:49,000 --> 03:10:50,000
I.

2012
03:10:50,000 --> 03:10:51,000
I just.

2013
03:10:51,000 --> 03:10:52,000
We.

2014
03:10:52,000 --> 03:10:53,000
We need to do it.

2015
03:10:53,000 --> 03:10:54,000
We need to.

2016
03:10:54,000 --> 03:10:55,000
So.

2017
03:10:55,000 --> 03:11:05,000
All right.

2018
03:11:05,000 --> 03:11:18,000
All right.

2019
03:11:18,000 --> 03:11:19,000
Mr. Paul.

2020
03:11:19,000 --> 03:11:20,000
What's.

2021
03:11:20,000 --> 03:11:23,000
What's.

2022
03:11:23,000 --> 03:11:33,000
Okay.

2023
03:11:33,000 --> 03:11:34,000
Okay.

2024
03:11:34,000 --> 03:11:37,000
We have a time on that one.

2025
03:11:37,000 --> 03:11:41,000
So we just go through and do the ones that everyone's waiting on and then go back and.

2026
03:11:41,000 --> 03:11:42,000
Kind of clean up the.

2027
03:11:42,000 --> 03:11:43,000
That's.

2028
03:11:43,000 --> 03:11:44,000
That's.

2029
03:11:44,000 --> 03:11:45,000
You can.

2030
03:11:45,000 --> 03:11:47,000
Sure.

2031
03:11:47,000 --> 03:11:49,000
I'm not sure.

2032
03:11:49,000 --> 03:11:50,000
I'm.

2033
03:11:50,000 --> 03:11:51,000
What's.

2034
03:11:52,000 --> 03:11:54,000
Mr. Paul, which one here for.

2035
03:11:54,000 --> 03:11:55,000
I.

2036
03:11:55,000 --> 03:11:56,000
Here.

2037
03:11:56,000 --> 03:11:57,000
For.

2038
03:11:57,000 --> 03:11:58,000
I thought so.

2039
03:11:58,000 --> 03:11:59,000
Okay.

2040
03:11:59,000 --> 03:12:00,000
All right.

2041
03:12:00,000 --> 03:12:01,000
So let's.

2042
03:12:01,000 --> 03:12:03,000
Let's go ahead and move to.

2043
03:12:03,000 --> 03:12:05,000
Northern lights.

2044
03:12:05,000 --> 03:12:07,000
Um.

2045
03:12:07,000 --> 03:12:11,000
Let's see if I had a 13.6.

2046
03:12:11,000 --> 03:12:12,000
Um.

2047
03:12:12,000 --> 03:12:14,000
Which is a final written decision.

2048
03:12:14,000 --> 03:12:16,000
Joshua.

2049
03:12:16,000 --> 03:12:21,000
Um.

2050
03:12:21,000 --> 03:12:22,000
Um.

2051
03:12:22,000 --> 03:12:24,000
Thank you commissioners.

2052
03:12:24,000 --> 03:12:25,000
Um.

2053
03:12:25,000 --> 03:12:30,000
We have prepared a final written decision or a written decision for the.

2054
03:12:30,000 --> 03:12:34,000
More than light subdivision final plan rather and.

2055
03:12:34,000 --> 03:12:35,000
Um.

2056
03:12:35,000 --> 03:12:39,000
First I would say that I apologize that I.

2057
03:12:39,000 --> 03:12:40,000
Wasn't.

2058
03:12:40,000 --> 03:12:44,000
Being very close attention when that motion was made.

2059
03:12:44,000 --> 03:12:45,000
Um.

2060
03:12:45,000 --> 03:12:56,000
I probably would have encouraged a little bit of further discussion or clarification on the conditions that were added.

2061
03:12:56,000 --> 03:12:58,000
Um.

2062
03:12:58,000 --> 03:12:59,000
Specifically.

2063
03:12:59,000 --> 03:13:01,000
Um.

2064
03:13:01,000 --> 03:13:05,000
The conditions include that the development agreement be updated to include a proportional share of improvements to.

2065
03:13:05,000 --> 03:13:15,000
1550 West and then that the board county commissioners would subsequently approve any changes to that updated development agreement.

2066
03:13:15,000 --> 03:13:20,000
I thought that was already specified as to what that was going to be.

2067
03:13:20,000 --> 03:13:32,000
So 7,000 North is already addressed in the development agreement that the county would supply materials and that because would make improvements.

2068
03:13:32,000 --> 03:13:49,000
1750 West was the road that had been sort of in question from my perspective as to whether the county wanted to try to require any additional improvements that road.

2069
03:13:50,000 --> 03:14:01,000
And I am not sure where this motion puts us exactly or where this condition puts us exactly it.

2070
03:14:02,000 --> 03:14:13,000
From my perspective, it suggests the applicant we want you to identify and contribute a proportion of proportion to share.

2071
03:14:13,000 --> 03:14:24,000
But that typically is determined by the traffic impact analysis saying here are the deficiencies.

2072
03:14:24,000 --> 03:14:36,000
The plan it costs to remedy that and here's what you know based on that cost and you're.

2073
03:14:36,000 --> 03:14:41,000
Expected you know level of traffic.

2074
03:14:41,000 --> 03:14:57,000
What yield this certain amount of money that would be contributed and so I don't know that we you know from the applicants perspective the county had made improvements to that road.

2075
03:14:57,000 --> 03:15:00,000
And hadn't identified here's a dollar amount.

2076
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:05,000
For additional improvements that we're planning to do in a specific time frame.

2077
03:15:05,000 --> 03:15:15,000
And talking to Darrell, the county does not have a specific plan for additional improvements to 1750 West currently.

2078
03:15:15,000 --> 03:15:26,000
And so, I don't know how we make that determination of, here's the cost to make improvements, here's what the proportion of the share would be.

2079
03:15:26,000 --> 03:15:37,000
So, I don't, I don't know how to give you any or the applicant any clarity as to what the intent and the expectation is for them to meet this specific.

2080
03:15:37,000 --> 03:15:42,000
It was my impression that we had this question during the last meeting.

2081
03:15:42,000 --> 03:15:48,000
And we called Darrell and we all asking the questions.

2082
03:15:48,000 --> 03:15:56,000
At this point, he gave us the determination that there was no requirement needed at this time.

2083
03:15:56,000 --> 03:16:02,000
And that's when we went ahead and voted on the final agreement.

2084
03:16:02,000 --> 03:16:09,000
So, I don't know that I guess I don't know your question, are you questioning at this point?

2085
03:16:09,000 --> 03:16:14,000
Do we need to go back and ask them to do something to 1750 or?

2086
03:16:14,000 --> 03:16:21,000
I would say that's the implication of the motion from my perspective.

2087
03:16:21,000 --> 03:16:27,000
And maybe Commissioner Powers can clarify as the motion maker.

2088
03:16:27,000 --> 03:16:36,000
One thought that I had, that I ran by Darrell, you know, just kind of spitballing ideas.

2089
03:16:36,000 --> 03:16:44,000
One of the things that continually was brought forth was a concern about the shoulder slopes.

2090
03:16:44,000 --> 03:16:55,000
And we've seen a lot of examples of projects that produce a lot of material that end up in berms.

2091
03:16:55,000 --> 03:16:58,000
They're not sure where we put this material.

2092
03:16:58,000 --> 03:17:02,000
It's not structural material that you use to build roads.

2093
03:17:02,000 --> 03:17:12,000
It's the soil that you move from that surface and where there's shoulders that need built up.

2094
03:17:12,000 --> 03:17:14,000
They don't necessarily need structural material.

2095
03:17:14,000 --> 03:17:21,000
They need to get the material and then need to be, you know, seated.

2096
03:17:22,000 --> 03:17:29,000
So they don't come all up in weeds and they need to get that vegetative cover to stabilize them.

2097
03:17:29,000 --> 03:17:39,000
But that was, you know, the only thought that I had was if there's extra material from road construction that was identified as a concern and need.

2098
03:17:39,000 --> 03:17:49,000
But I don't know, you know, I've prepared the written decision as it was, as it was made in that motion.

2099
03:17:49,000 --> 03:17:59,000
I, I'm kind of out of loss to give any recommendations either to the board or clarity of the applicant about what's intended here.

2100
03:17:59,000 --> 03:18:10,000
So that's the point that I wanted to make and you guys can discuss what you think about this written decision as it's been prepared.

2101
03:18:10,000 --> 03:18:17,000
If you'd like you need to make any clarifications to it or so.

2102
03:18:18,000 --> 03:18:21,000
That's all I've got. I guess are there questions for me?

2103
03:18:21,000 --> 03:18:26,000
I guess I'm looking for that where you, or you even put that in the written decision.

2104
03:18:26,000 --> 03:18:32,000
Yeah, so that would be conditions five and six on page five.

2105
03:18:32,000 --> 03:18:44,000
The first four conditions were ones that we had that the planning staff had prepared in advance and recommended its conditions.

2106
03:18:45,000 --> 03:18:50,000
And the last two were added at the time of the decision.

2107
03:18:50,000 --> 03:19:12,000
Yeah, I mean, I'm not opposed to doing anything that is is proper for both parties. I just want to be sure whatever decision we made in the last meeting, which was a approval of a final plat and that we aren't doing anything to change that in this agreement.

2108
03:19:12,000 --> 03:19:14,000
Yeah, so.

2109
03:19:14,000 --> 03:19:15,000
I.

2110
03:19:15,000 --> 03:19:16,000
Right, I guess.

2111
03:19:16,000 --> 03:19:20,000
It kind of does leave that open though when I read it here.

2112
03:19:20,000 --> 03:19:22,000
It says, well, we're going to.

2113
03:19:22,000 --> 03:19:24,000
But we're sure to take a second look.

2114
03:19:24,000 --> 03:19:27,000
But what does that mean? Does it just going to look at it?

2115
03:19:27,000 --> 03:19:30,000
Say, I looked at it or does it going to require something and require something?

2116
03:19:30,000 --> 03:19:33,000
I don't know if we have a mission or not.

2117
03:19:33,000 --> 03:19:41,000
Yeah, it's not clear to me what the expectation for the applicant is to do based on that specific condition.

2118
03:19:41,000 --> 03:19:45,000
I'm sure power spots.

2119
03:19:45,000 --> 03:19:48,000
I'm sure I really see what the problem is here.

2120
03:19:48,000 --> 03:19:55,000
I mean, we have a report out flying all the deficiencies in the road.

2121
03:19:55,000 --> 03:20:03,000
Can't we just get daryl to raise a cost estimate to fix those deficiencies and then look at the traffic.

2122
03:20:03,000 --> 03:20:08,000
We have a traffic impact study that tells us how many digital cars are going to be on it.

2123
03:20:09,000 --> 03:20:12,000
That ought to be a pretty straightforward thing to do.

2124
03:20:12,000 --> 03:20:14,000
I agree with that.

2125
03:20:14,000 --> 03:20:23,000
My question is, is we had him come in last meeting and he seemed to answer our questions as to the conditions of that road.

2126
03:20:23,000 --> 03:20:30,000
And he felt it was at that at this moment there was not an imminent issue.

2127
03:20:30,000 --> 03:20:33,000
And then we we voted based on his comments.

2128
03:20:33,000 --> 03:20:37,000
So I guess I'm trying to figure out what's changed.

2129
03:20:38,000 --> 03:20:51,000
And I don't see any changes based on this, except it does leave a little bit up to the discretion of the public.

2130
03:20:51,000 --> 03:20:53,000
Worst director now.

2131
03:20:53,000 --> 03:20:58,000
And without without the applicant saying, oh, yeah, I'm fine with that.

2132
03:20:58,000 --> 03:21:00,000
Right, I guess.

2133
03:21:00,000 --> 03:21:02,000
I'll make it up to you for you.

2134
03:21:02,000 --> 03:21:10,000
But I should have probably pushed the commissioners to further deliberate and say what's the intent of this.

2135
03:21:10,000 --> 03:21:12,000
You know, what does the county need to do?

2136
03:21:12,000 --> 03:21:17,000
And then what does the applicant need to do in response to this condition?

2137
03:21:17,000 --> 03:21:29,000
And so I, you know, so commissioner powers sort of outlined a path that he thinks would make sense to address this condition.

2138
03:21:29,000 --> 03:21:33,000
But there wasn't any previous directive.

2139
03:21:33,000 --> 03:21:40,000
I guess the public works to say, can you respond to this and bring us a number that would we would insert here.

2140
03:21:40,000 --> 03:21:48,000
But again, usually that's not been county's place to come up with the cost estimates.

2141
03:21:48,000 --> 03:21:51,000
And the proportionate share numbers.

2142
03:21:51,000 --> 03:21:56,000
Those have been things that the applicants have determined in their traffic impact analysis.

2143
03:21:56,000 --> 03:22:00,000
And then we've said, okay, we agree with that.

2144
03:22:00,000 --> 03:22:07,000
And that's what we will apply or require as part of this approval process.

2145
03:22:07,000 --> 03:22:11,000
So there's just kind of a missing information component here.

2146
03:22:11,000 --> 03:22:14,000
I guess my question might be to Andrew for legal.

2147
03:22:14,000 --> 03:22:25,000
I mean, can at this point when we're doing a written decision, can we make a more specific interpretation to the written decision.

2148
03:22:25,000 --> 03:22:30,000
Which, what does that do to us legally?

2149
03:22:30,000 --> 03:22:33,000
That's my, that's my question.

2150
03:22:33,000 --> 03:22:39,000
Andrew, can you help me there?

2151
03:22:39,000 --> 03:22:41,000
Yes, can you hear me?

2152
03:22:41,000 --> 03:22:42,000
Yes.

2153
03:22:42,000 --> 03:22:52,000
So best practice would always be to have a full and complete oral motion, right?

2154
03:22:52,000 --> 03:22:56,000
The lays all this out of all the conditions and all the details.

2155
03:22:56,000 --> 03:23:00,000
There's always some flushing out that the written decision does.

2156
03:23:00,000 --> 03:23:05,000
So you can't vary from your oral motion.

2157
03:23:05,000 --> 03:23:12,000
But if there are details that need clarification, that's a potential where you can.

2158
03:23:12,000 --> 03:23:15,000
You have to flush some things out, right?

2159
03:23:15,000 --> 03:23:19,000
So you don't state everything in a written decision in your verbal motion.

2160
03:23:19,000 --> 03:23:22,000
So there is somewhere in there to clarify.

2161
03:23:22,000 --> 03:23:23,000
Okay.

2162
03:23:23,000 --> 03:23:28,000
It definitely complicates things and is of course better to be clearer sooner.

2163
03:23:28,000 --> 03:23:30,000
But reality is reality too.

2164
03:23:30,000 --> 03:23:33,000
I think courts are going to recognize that as well.

2165
03:23:33,000 --> 03:23:34,000
All right.

2166
03:23:34,000 --> 03:23:37,000
I'm, I'm happy to do that.

2167
03:23:37,000 --> 03:23:41,000
I just want to make sure we're doing, you answer my question.

2168
03:23:41,000 --> 03:23:44,000
I want to, I don't want to do something that isn't correct.

2169
03:23:44,000 --> 03:23:47,000
So it sounds to me commissioner powers.

2170
03:23:47,000 --> 03:23:53,000
If you, if, if you wanted to make a motion and add what you just said to,

2171
03:23:53,000 --> 03:23:57,000
as an explanation to item six on the conditions,

2172
03:23:57,000 --> 03:24:01,000
I think that would be appropriate then.

2173
03:24:01,000 --> 03:24:09,000
And, and you, are you okay if we make a motion to prove the written decision with conditions?

2174
03:24:09,000 --> 03:24:11,000
Is that up air?

2175
03:24:11,000 --> 03:24:12,000
You have to rewrite it.

2176
03:24:12,000 --> 03:24:14,000
I thought he said that was.

2177
03:24:19,000 --> 03:24:21,000
Andrew?

2178
03:24:25,000 --> 03:24:26,000
Here we go.

2179
03:24:26,000 --> 03:24:30,000
You're so, you're so, you expect this to do everything for you.

2180
03:24:34,000 --> 03:24:36,000
So I think the question is,

2181
03:24:36,000 --> 03:24:39,000
does the board want to adopt this written decision

2182
03:24:39,000 --> 03:24:44,000
as accurately encapsulating the motion that was passed at the prior thing?

2183
03:24:44,000 --> 03:24:50,000
If there's something we need to change, if there's a major, you know, rewrite in there,

2184
03:24:50,000 --> 03:24:54,000
then yeah, we should, you know, continue that so that we can get it rewritten

2185
03:24:54,000 --> 03:24:57,000
and then bring it back for approval.

2186
03:24:57,000 --> 03:25:02,000
But then you said if you wanted to be, to just add clarity to one of the items

2187
03:25:02,000 --> 03:25:05,000
that that would be probably okay.

2188
03:25:05,000 --> 03:25:09,000
Sure, well, yeah. So I mean, if you want to add the word,

2189
03:25:09,000 --> 03:25:12,000
that's somewhere that's minor, if you want to add, you know,

2190
03:25:12,000 --> 03:25:19,000
sentence, let's read, read, do that and continue things and keep it moving in that way.

2191
03:25:19,000 --> 03:25:20,000
Okay.

2192
03:25:20,000 --> 03:25:21,000
Does that answer the question?

2193
03:25:21,000 --> 03:25:22,000
Yes.

2194
03:25:22,000 --> 03:25:23,000
So.

2195
03:25:23,000 --> 03:25:24,000
Okay.

2196
03:25:24,000 --> 03:25:25,000
Yeah.

2197
03:25:25,000 --> 03:25:31,000
I mean, I, I'm willing to make a motion to approve it as it is,

2198
03:25:32,000 --> 03:25:35,000
because I think it, it,

2199
03:25:35,000 --> 03:25:40,000
it is a fair synopsis of what we agreed to at the last thing,

2200
03:25:40,000 --> 03:25:44,000
but a commissioner powers feels that he needs to add something to it

2201
03:25:44,000 --> 03:25:47,000
that I think we do need to continue it.

2202
03:25:47,000 --> 03:25:49,000
Yeah.

2203
03:25:49,000 --> 03:25:51,000
I don't really feel like it needs it.

2204
03:25:51,000 --> 03:25:54,000
I mean, if you like Josh, Josh thinks it needs more clarity.

2205
03:25:54,000 --> 03:25:55,000
Okay.

2206
03:25:55,000 --> 03:25:58,000
Well, I,

2207
03:25:59,000 --> 03:26:02,000
I think it may be helpful to the applicants.

2208
03:26:02,000 --> 03:26:04,000
If you want to leave it as is, I think,

2209
03:26:04,000 --> 03:26:06,000
and it would just say,

2210
03:26:08,000 --> 03:26:10,000
make a, you know,

2211
03:26:10,000 --> 03:26:14,000
it's open-ended to the applicant how they want to address that condition

2212
03:26:14,000 --> 03:26:16,000
and if you want to see how that,

2213
03:26:16,000 --> 03:26:18,000
you know, precedes the word.

2214
03:26:18,000 --> 03:26:19,000
Yeah.

2215
03:26:19,000 --> 03:26:20,000
I think that's fine.

2216
03:26:20,000 --> 03:26:24,000
I think the applicant has been very willing to do pretty much whatever

2217
03:26:24,000 --> 03:26:27,000
that I'm asking within reason, and I, I don't,

2218
03:26:27,000 --> 03:26:29,000
I think that's something that the public work structure

2219
03:26:29,000 --> 03:26:32,000
could probably work out with them if we want to

2220
03:26:32,000 --> 03:26:36,000
ahead and approve the written decision in my mind.

2221
03:26:36,000 --> 03:26:38,000
So,

2222
03:26:38,000 --> 03:26:41,000
for that standpoint,

2223
03:26:41,000 --> 03:26:48,000
I think,

2224
03:26:49,000 --> 03:26:53,000
Yeah,

2225
03:26:53,000 --> 03:26:55,000
I think I could make a motion.

2226
03:26:55,000 --> 03:26:57,000
Unless you have further something further,

2227
03:26:57,000 --> 03:26:58,000
say Commissioner Powers.

2228
03:26:58,000 --> 03:27:01,000
Well, I don't.

2229
03:27:10,000 --> 03:27:13,000
I don't think for a motion.

2230
03:27:13,000 --> 03:27:14,000
I don't think so.

2231
03:27:14,000 --> 03:27:15,000
I don't think so.

2232
03:27:15,000 --> 03:27:16,000
I don't think so.

2233
03:27:16,000 --> 03:27:17,000
I don't think so.

2234
03:27:17,000 --> 03:27:18,000
I don't think so.

2235
03:27:18,000 --> 03:27:20,000
So,

2236
03:27:20,000 --> 03:27:21,000
let's see here.

2237
03:27:29,000 --> 03:27:34,000
I would like to make a motion to approve the written decision

2238
03:27:34,000 --> 03:27:41,000
for the Northern Lights subdivision final written decision

2239
03:27:41,000 --> 03:27:46,000
as stated as noted.

2240
03:27:46,000 --> 03:27:59,000
And with the conditions as noted on the written decision.

2241
03:27:59,000 --> 03:28:00,000
Second that.

2242
03:28:00,000 --> 03:28:01,000
Okay.

2243
03:28:01,000 --> 03:28:03,000
Then move in second it all in favor.

2244
03:28:03,000 --> 03:28:04,000
I.

2245
03:28:04,000 --> 03:28:05,000
Okay.

2246
03:28:05,000 --> 03:28:07,000
All right.

2247
03:28:07,000 --> 03:28:09,000
Motion carries.

2248
03:28:10,000 --> 03:28:11,000
All right.

2249
03:28:11,000 --> 03:28:13,000
See what your name works.

2250
03:28:13,000 --> 03:28:14,000
I'll give it up.

2251
03:28:20,000 --> 03:28:21,000
I mean,

2252
03:28:21,000 --> 03:28:23,000
I don't know if that was,

2253
03:28:23,000 --> 03:28:24,000
uh,

2254
03:28:24,000 --> 03:28:25,000
just like,

2255
03:28:25,000 --> 03:28:26,000
you know,

2256
03:28:26,000 --> 03:28:27,000
let's go back.

2257
03:28:27,000 --> 03:28:28,000
I think.

2258
03:28:28,000 --> 03:28:29,000
I think.

2259
03:28:29,000 --> 03:28:30,000
I think.

2260
03:28:30,000 --> 03:28:31,000
I think.

2261
03:28:31,000 --> 03:28:32,000
I think.

2262
03:28:32,000 --> 03:28:33,000
I think.

2263
03:28:33,000 --> 03:28:34,000
I think.

2264
03:28:34,000 --> 03:28:35,000
I think.

2265
03:28:35,000 --> 03:28:36,000
Uh.

2266
03:28:37,000 --> 03:28:38,000
I think.

2267
03:28:38,000 --> 03:28:39,000
So.

2268
03:28:39,000 --> 03:28:40,000
I think.

2269
03:28:41,000 --> 03:28:43,000
Absolutely.

2270
03:28:43,000 --> 03:28:45,000
Like what's item was that?

2271
03:28:45,000 --> 03:28:46,000
That was.

2272
03:28:46,000 --> 03:28:47,000
I did.

2273
03:28:47,000 --> 03:28:48,000
Okay.

2274
03:28:48,000 --> 03:28:49,000
Looks.

2275
03:28:49,000 --> 03:28:50,000
More.

2276
03:28:50,000 --> 03:28:51,000
Very.

2277
03:28:59,000 --> 03:29:00,000
I think.

2278
03:29:00,000 --> 03:29:02,000
The day's the.

2279
03:29:02,000 --> 03:29:03,000
Yes.

2280
03:29:06,000 --> 03:29:16,000
Okay, let's go back with here.

2281
03:29:16,000 --> 03:29:30,000
All right, clerk, we're going to, we're going to move to you.

2282
03:29:30,000 --> 03:29:51,000
This is an annual report that just covers where the money, what money was received,

2283
03:29:51,000 --> 03:29:58,000
and what money was spent and what the intent, what it's budgeted for in fiscal year 26.

2284
03:29:58,000 --> 03:30:00,000
Okay.

2285
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:15,000
Okay, 20,000, 20,000, I'll go towards 29,000 pay for ongoing meetings of votes.

2286
03:30:15,000 --> 03:30:21,000
Okay, looks good to make, Mr. Powers, any questions on that? Have you had chance to review it?

2287
03:30:21,000 --> 03:30:24,000
No, it's good to me.

2288
03:30:24,000 --> 03:30:27,000
So...

2289
03:30:40,000 --> 03:30:53,000
I would like to make a motion to accept the 2025 Vessel Fund report as stated as written.

2290
03:30:54,000 --> 03:31:00,000
Okay, move in second, all in favor, aye, aye, motion carries.

2291
03:31:00,000 --> 03:31:03,000
Okay, next, 10.2.

2292
03:31:03,000 --> 03:31:14,000
This is the engagement letter with our outside auditors for fiscal year 25 audit, which is actually going to start this week.

2293
03:31:14,000 --> 03:31:19,000
That sounded a little stress than that.

2294
03:31:19,000 --> 03:31:26,000
Oh, it's not too bad. They're good to work with. Any questions on this?

2295
03:31:26,000 --> 03:31:30,000
Is this a normal amount of, is there anything?

2296
03:31:30,000 --> 03:31:33,000
It's a good question.

2297
03:31:33,000 --> 03:31:40,000
The cost for the audit has increased quite a bit since I've been in office.

2298
03:31:40,000 --> 03:31:48,000
We did put it out to bid two years ago and actually had a hard time even getting anything to bid on it.

2299
03:31:48,000 --> 03:32:00,000
These guys have been really great to work with, helpful throughout the year, giving advice on tricky matters.

2300
03:32:00,000 --> 03:32:06,000
It seems expensive, but we were to look at every other county of a similar size.

2301
03:32:06,000 --> 03:32:07,000
It's the same.

2302
03:32:07,000 --> 03:32:08,000
Okay.

2303
03:32:08,000 --> 03:32:12,000
No matter who their audit is.

2304
03:32:12,000 --> 03:32:16,000
Okay, Commissioner Powers, any questions?

2305
03:32:16,000 --> 03:32:32,000
No, I would, I would move to approve the 2025 Teton County Wipflee engagement letter, or the audit of the audit.

2306
03:32:32,000 --> 03:32:34,000
I'll second that.

2307
03:32:34,000 --> 03:32:38,000
Move in second, all in favor, aye, aye.

2308
03:32:38,000 --> 03:32:41,000
Okay, motion carries.

2309
03:32:42,000 --> 03:32:46,000
Okay, moving right along, approval of the minutes.

2310
03:32:46,000 --> 03:32:56,000
So we've got September 8, which is, I had a question that, for the prosecutor on this, and they answered it.

2311
03:32:56,000 --> 03:33:04,000
It was regarding deliberating in a, on a item, and then abstaining from the vote.

2312
03:33:04,000 --> 03:33:07,000
They said there's no issue with that, just counts as a note.

2313
03:33:07,000 --> 03:33:10,000
Okay.

2314
03:33:10,000 --> 03:33:13,000
Any questions that you had, Commissioner?

2315
03:33:13,000 --> 03:33:15,000
Powers?

2316
03:33:15,000 --> 03:33:16,000
I do not.

2317
03:33:16,000 --> 03:33:18,000
Okay.

2318
03:33:18,000 --> 03:33:31,000
That being said, I'd make a motion to approve the minutes from the regular board meetings of September 8, October 15, and November 24th.

2319
03:33:31,000 --> 03:33:33,000
I'll set it up.

2320
03:33:33,000 --> 03:33:36,000
Okay, it's been moved in second and all in favor, aye.

2321
03:33:37,000 --> 03:33:38,000
Okay.

2322
03:33:38,000 --> 03:33:39,000
Thank you.

2323
03:33:39,000 --> 03:33:40,000
Motion carries.

2324
03:33:40,000 --> 03:33:43,000
Okay.

2325
03:33:43,000 --> 03:33:47,000
And the last is just a sort of a cleanup item.

2326
03:33:47,000 --> 03:33:52,000
We didn't get the dental that we approved in a fire meeting.

2327
03:33:52,000 --> 03:33:53,000
We needed to get it signed.

2328
03:33:53,000 --> 03:33:55,000
So I guess that.

2329
03:33:55,000 --> 03:33:57,000
That contract.

2330
03:33:57,000 --> 03:33:58,000
Okay.

2331
03:33:58,000 --> 03:34:00,000
So just approve the contract.

2332
03:34:00,000 --> 03:34:01,000
Yeah.

2333
03:34:01,000 --> 03:34:02,000
Okay.

2334
03:34:02,000 --> 03:34:15,000
I would like to make a motion to approve the met life dental contract for the.

2335
03:34:15,000 --> 03:34:18,000
Is that for the fiscal year 2026?

2336
03:34:18,000 --> 03:34:21,000
It's actually for the calendar year 2026.

2337
03:34:21,000 --> 03:34:22,000
Okay.

2338
03:34:22,000 --> 03:34:23,000
All right.

2339
03:34:23,000 --> 03:34:29,000
So I will make that motion to approve it for the calendar year of 2026.

2340
03:34:29,000 --> 03:34:36,000
As written.

2341
03:34:36,000 --> 03:34:38,000
You second it.

2342
03:34:38,000 --> 03:34:40,000
Can I say you second?

2343
03:34:40,000 --> 03:34:41,000
Okay.

2344
03:34:41,000 --> 03:34:43,000
Move the second all in favor.

2345
03:34:43,000 --> 03:34:44,000
Aye.

2346
03:34:44,000 --> 03:34:45,000
Okay.

2347
03:34:45,000 --> 03:34:46,000
Motion carries.

2348
03:34:46,000 --> 03:34:48,000
That's all I have.

2349
03:34:48,000 --> 03:34:49,000
You're good.

2350
03:34:49,000 --> 03:34:50,000
Okay.

2351
03:34:50,000 --> 03:34:53,000
So we are.

2352
03:34:53,000 --> 03:34:55,000
11.1s down.

2353
03:34:55,000 --> 03:34:56,000
11.2.

2354
03:34:56,000 --> 03:34:58,000
11.3.

2355
03:34:58,000 --> 03:34:59,000
We will hold off on.

2356
03:34:59,000 --> 03:35:05,000
We do have 8.1 which is the discussion of temporary structures as long term living quarters.

2357
03:35:05,000 --> 03:35:06,000
Okay.

2358
03:35:06,000 --> 03:35:07,000
Let's go back.

2359
03:35:07,000 --> 03:35:08,000
Let's go back.

2360
03:35:08,000 --> 03:35:09,000
Thank you for that.

2361
03:35:09,000 --> 03:35:10,000
Let's go back to that.

2362
03:35:10,000 --> 03:35:12,000
Probably need.

2363
03:35:12,000 --> 03:35:17,000
Yes.

2364
03:35:17,000 --> 03:35:18,000
While you're getting them.

2365
03:35:18,000 --> 03:35:25,000
Let's go ahead and do 11.4 which is an action item for pathology service agreement with

2366
03:35:25,000 --> 03:35:26,000
County.

2367
03:35:26,000 --> 03:35:27,000
Okay.

2368
03:35:27,000 --> 03:35:29,000
Do you have that information?

2369
03:35:29,000 --> 03:35:30,000
Yes.

2370
03:35:30,000 --> 03:35:31,000
Yes.

2371
03:35:31,000 --> 03:35:32,000
So this.

2372
03:35:32,000 --> 03:35:41,000
This is our annual contract agreement in a county to do.

2373
03:35:41,000 --> 03:35:44,000
I'm living in the.

2374
03:35:44,000 --> 03:35:45,000
Autopsies.

2375
03:35:45,000 --> 03:35:46,000
Polaries.

2376
03:35:46,000 --> 03:35:47,000
Autopsies.

2377
03:35:47,000 --> 03:35:49,000
It is the.

2378
03:35:49,000 --> 03:35:50,000
They are the.

2379
03:35:50,000 --> 03:35:51,000
Yeah.

2380
03:35:51,000 --> 03:35:54,000
They are the lab that can do them in the state of Idaho.

2381
03:35:54,000 --> 03:35:55,000
We don't do those ourselves.

2382
03:35:55,000 --> 03:35:56,000
No.

2383
03:35:56,000 --> 03:35:57,000
Oh, I thought we did.

2384
03:35:57,000 --> 03:35:58,000
No.

2385
03:35:58,000 --> 03:35:59,000
No.

2386
03:35:59,000 --> 03:36:00,000
I think every.

2387
03:36:00,000 --> 03:36:03,000
I think they only forensic lab in the state of Idaho is in the.

2388
03:36:03,000 --> 03:36:09,000
Okay.

2389
03:36:09,000 --> 03:36:10,000
Any questions on that?

2390
03:36:10,000 --> 03:36:13,000
I did read through this pretty in depth.

2391
03:36:13,000 --> 03:36:14,000
So.

2392
03:36:14,000 --> 03:36:16,000
I'm happy to make a motion.

2393
03:36:16,000 --> 03:36:19,000
When you're ready, commissioner powers.

2394
03:36:19,000 --> 03:36:20,000
Yeah.

2395
03:36:20,000 --> 03:36:23,000
I like to make a motion to approve the pathology.

2396
03:36:23,000 --> 03:36:29,000
This pathology service agreement with eight a county.

2397
03:36:29,000 --> 03:36:33,000
Is this an annual or fiscal year thing?

2398
03:36:33,000 --> 03:36:34,000
Is it matter?

2399
03:36:34,000 --> 03:36:36,000
I just put as presenting.

2400
03:36:36,000 --> 03:36:37,000
Okay.

2401
03:36:37,000 --> 03:36:38,000
As per.

2402
03:36:38,000 --> 03:36:40,000
Approved as presented.

2403
03:36:40,000 --> 03:36:42,000
Is there second.

2404
03:36:42,000 --> 03:36:43,000
Yes.

2405
03:36:43,000 --> 03:36:44,000
All second.

2406
03:36:44,000 --> 03:36:45,000
Okay.

2407
03:36:45,000 --> 03:36:46,000
Move in second.

2408
03:36:46,000 --> 03:36:47,000
All in favor.

2409
03:36:47,000 --> 03:36:48,000
I.

2410
03:36:48,000 --> 03:36:49,000
Okay.

2411
03:36:49,000 --> 03:36:50,000
Motion carries.

2412
03:36:50,000 --> 03:36:51,000
All right.

2413
03:36:51,000 --> 03:36:52,000
Let's go back to item 8.1.

2414
03:36:53,000 --> 03:36:56,000
Which is a diverse structures.

2415
03:36:56,000 --> 03:36:58,000
As long term living quarters.

2416
03:36:58,000 --> 03:36:59,000
Thank you.

2417
03:36:59,000 --> 03:37:00,000
How are you doing?

2418
03:37:00,000 --> 03:37:01,000
Thank you.

2419
03:37:01,000 --> 03:37:02,000
Hello.

2420
03:37:02,000 --> 03:37:03,000
Hey.

2421
03:37:03,000 --> 03:37:04,000
Well, I'm not.

2422
03:37:04,000 --> 03:37:05,000
You're not.

2423
03:37:05,000 --> 03:37:07,000
But I'm the only one to look at.

2424
03:37:07,000 --> 03:37:10,000
That means you get blamed for everything.

2425
03:37:10,000 --> 03:37:11,000
I don't.

2426
03:37:11,000 --> 03:37:16,000
On November 24th during that, just.

2427
03:37:16,000 --> 03:37:18,000
Oh, my name is Amber Pence.

2428
03:37:18,000 --> 03:37:20,000
I'm code compliance technician.

2429
03:37:20,000 --> 03:37:22,000
Here to discuss.

2430
03:37:22,000 --> 03:37:26,000
Teton County RV code compliance and state statute.

2431
03:37:26,000 --> 03:37:28,000
Background.

2432
03:37:28,000 --> 03:37:32,000
During the November 24th port of county commissioners meeting.

2433
03:37:32,000 --> 03:37:35,000
There is a request to talk about RVs.

2434
03:37:35,000 --> 03:37:37,000
It was.

2435
03:37:37,000 --> 03:37:38,000
Sort of open.

2436
03:37:38,000 --> 03:37:39,000
So.

2437
03:37:39,000 --> 03:37:42,000
All this is about as code and state statute.

2438
03:37:42,000 --> 03:37:44,000
It has nothing to do with.

2439
03:37:44,000 --> 03:37:48,000
Personal opinion if this if people should it or shouldn't be living in our

2440
03:37:48,000 --> 03:37:51,000
views, et cetera.

2441
03:37:51,000 --> 03:37:56,000
The Teton County land development code covers RVs.

2442
03:37:56,000 --> 03:37:59,000
That they are.

2443
03:37:59,000 --> 03:38:03,000
Not classified as well in units, but they are temporary.

2444
03:38:03,000 --> 03:38:06,000
Vehicles, essentially.

2445
03:38:06,000 --> 03:38:10,000
And property owners may have RVs on their property.

2446
03:38:10,000 --> 03:38:13,000
But living in them is different than having them on your property.

2447
03:38:13,000 --> 03:38:19,000
And HOA's and CCR rules may stay otherwise depending on where you live.

2448
03:38:19,000 --> 03:38:25,000
They may have those rules that know RVs are allowed even if they're livable or not on your property.

2449
03:38:25,000 --> 03:38:28,000
I'd host statute.

2450
03:38:28,000 --> 03:38:36,000
Has RVs classified as motor homes, travel trailers, fifth wills and truck campers.

2451
03:38:36,000 --> 03:38:42,000
They are recognized as temporary recreational units, not residential homes.

2452
03:38:43,000 --> 03:38:46,000
And I've included those Idaho statutes in that packet.

2453
03:38:46,000 --> 03:38:49,000
I just provided you commissioner.

2454
03:38:49,000 --> 03:38:53,000
Wolf and I'll have one in your.

2455
03:38:53,000 --> 03:38:56,000
File.

2456
03:38:56,000 --> 03:38:59,000
Holder commissioner hours for you and you.

2457
03:38:59,000 --> 03:39:01,000
And the thing.

2458
03:39:01,000 --> 03:39:04,000
I included those on this memo.

2459
03:39:04,000 --> 03:39:06,000
They also.

2460
03:39:06,000 --> 03:39:10,000
The Idaho Department of Transportation also.

2461
03:39:10,000 --> 03:39:14,000
Regulates them is if they are vehicles.

2462
03:39:14,000 --> 03:39:16,000
Not residential homes.

2463
03:39:16,000 --> 03:39:24,000
Not like a fifth, you know, not like a mobile or a modular home or a trailer home.

2464
03:39:24,000 --> 03:39:30,000
The Idaho or the international building code and the international residential code.

2465
03:39:30,000 --> 03:39:33,000
Also do not see them as.

2466
03:39:33,000 --> 03:39:38,000
Wellings they have them.

2467
03:39:38,000 --> 03:39:41,000
As.

2468
03:39:41,000 --> 03:39:48,000
I guess, you know, recreational vehicles as motor homes or travel trailers.

2469
03:39:48,000 --> 03:39:54,000
They aren't build up or RVs are built to standard of a regular.

2470
03:39:54,000 --> 03:39:55,000
Living structure.

2471
03:39:55,000 --> 03:39:58,000
They're not designed engineer or insulated for four season.

2472
03:39:58,000 --> 03:40:04,000
They don't need minimum requirements for dwelling unit.

2473
03:40:04,000 --> 03:40:09,000
And they are not permitted to substitute as a residential unit.

2474
03:40:09,000 --> 03:40:11,000
They also.

2475
03:40:11,000 --> 03:40:17,000
Don't have wastewater disposal systems in them as a residential unit does.

2476
03:40:17,000 --> 03:40:23,000
They have a small non permanent holding tank.

2477
03:40:23,000 --> 03:40:27,000
And they do not need standards for a septic.

2478
03:40:28,000 --> 03:40:31,000
System.

2479
03:40:31,000 --> 03:40:33,000
As co-compliance we have received.

2480
03:40:33,000 --> 03:40:36,000
We are we are complaint driven.

2481
03:40:36,000 --> 03:40:39,000
So we have seen some complaints about.

2482
03:40:39,000 --> 03:40:43,000
Folks living in year round RVs.

2483
03:40:43,000 --> 03:40:48,000
We do have an exception in the in the international building code where if you have a house.

2484
03:40:48,000 --> 03:40:50,000
A permit for building a house.

2485
03:40:50,000 --> 03:40:53,000
You can live in your RV on that property.

2486
03:40:53,000 --> 03:40:58,000
Essentially, you're paying, you know, you're going to be paying property taxes.

2487
03:40:58,000 --> 03:41:03,000
You may be paying them on that land, but at some point you'll be paying taxes on your home.

2488
03:41:03,000 --> 03:41:13,000
Or putting in septic system and you're following all of the regular residential rules.

2489
03:41:13,000 --> 03:41:20,000
I did look into if other counties in Idaho are allowing.

2490
03:41:20,000 --> 03:41:28,000
And I was not able to find anything except for city of catch them in city of Haley.

2491
03:41:28,000 --> 03:41:32,000
Which I put those in there in 2021 during COVID.

2492
03:41:32,000 --> 03:41:36,000
They allowed essential workers to live in RVs.

2493
03:41:36,000 --> 03:41:42,000
For one, you know, they had pretty dense site boards on those.

2494
03:41:42,000 --> 03:41:44,000
Which I included the ordinance in there.

2495
03:41:44,000 --> 03:41:47,000
So there are some entities that have.

2496
03:41:47,000 --> 03:41:51,000
But it kind of mimics our building permit.

2497
03:41:51,000 --> 03:41:55,000
Process to an extent where they only had six months.

2498
03:41:55,000 --> 03:41:58,000
They can't live in them during the winter.

2499
03:41:58,000 --> 03:42:00,000
Because of safety issues.

2500
03:42:00,000 --> 03:42:06,000
And I contacted them to see if that ordinance has been updated or if there is still doing it.

2501
03:42:06,000 --> 03:42:09,000
It was only during that year and I haven't heard back from them yet.

2502
03:42:09,000 --> 03:42:15,000
So that's what I found on RV code and state statute.

2503
03:42:15,000 --> 03:42:19,000
So from what you're saying, it's not.

2504
03:42:19,000 --> 03:42:24,000
In our ability to make a code to allow it because it's against state statute.

2505
03:42:24,000 --> 03:42:26,000
Is that what I'm understanding?

2506
03:42:26,000 --> 03:42:27,000
But I don't know.

2507
03:42:27,000 --> 03:42:29,000
Yes.

2508
03:42:29,000 --> 03:42:31,000
About.

2509
03:42:31,000 --> 03:42:37,000
So I think it's it's it's a gray area because there's not specifically something saying this is how you do it.

2510
03:42:37,000 --> 03:42:41,000
Or you cannot do it.

2511
03:42:41,000 --> 03:42:46,000
But recreational vehicles RVs are built to RV standards.

2512
03:42:46,000 --> 03:42:49,000
They'll have an RVA tag on them.

2513
03:42:49,000 --> 03:42:54,000
Whereas manufactured homes will have a HUD.

2514
03:42:54,000 --> 03:42:57,000
Saying that they've been built to the HUD standards.

2515
03:42:57,000 --> 03:43:00,000
Which are different than regular building codes.

2516
03:43:00,000 --> 03:43:04,000
But still intended for long-term year round use.

2517
03:43:04,000 --> 03:43:12,000
And then modular homes and obviously stick built on site are designed and built to international residential code.

2518
03:43:12,000 --> 03:43:18,000
Which is similar to HUD but more basically.

2519
03:43:18,000 --> 03:43:24,000
And the RVs are built to something much different than even the HUD homes are.

2520
03:43:24,000 --> 03:43:29,000
So safety being the first concern.

2521
03:43:29,000 --> 03:43:35,000
And very clearly they're not intended for year round adaptation.

2522
03:43:35,000 --> 03:43:44,000
I think that we would be hard for us to be able to find a way to permit them as permanent living structures.

2523
03:43:44,000 --> 03:43:54,000
And another extension of that is some tiny homes and other units that are described as park models.

2524
03:43:54,000 --> 03:44:02,000
They are very specifically built to the same RVA standards that a travel trailer or a good will.

2525
03:44:02,000 --> 03:44:03,000
Yep.

2526
03:44:03,000 --> 03:44:05,000
So that's the struggle.

2527
03:44:05,000 --> 03:44:10,000
At least from the building department perspective is that we don't have.

2528
03:44:10,000 --> 03:44:15,000
We don't have enough there to be able to permit it as a home.

2529
03:44:15,000 --> 03:44:22,000
For me I would love to find a way to do it because my part goes out to them and I think I think.

2530
03:44:22,000 --> 03:44:26,000
There's a need there, a definite need.

2531
03:44:26,000 --> 03:44:27,000
Yep.

2532
03:44:27,000 --> 03:44:31,000
But again we have to obey the laws.

2533
03:44:31,000 --> 03:44:33,000
And I don't think we're there yet.

2534
03:44:33,000 --> 03:44:40,000
You're very, very similar when we first started to see your coming into the valley several years ago.

2535
03:44:40,000 --> 03:44:51,000
And it took some time but we were eventually able to get to a point where we were getting snow loads and we were getting other energy ratings that we needed to be able to permit them.

2536
03:44:51,000 --> 03:44:53,000
And we can now.

2537
03:44:53,000 --> 03:44:58,000
So I'm hopeful that something similar will happen at least for park models.

2538
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:06,000
And tiny homes that we can allow them as dwellings.

2539
03:45:06,000 --> 03:45:12,000
So if a RV was in a RV park?

2540
03:45:12,000 --> 03:45:22,000
Potentially, because we would have them connected to power, we would have them connected to some kind of a wastewater system.

2541
03:45:22,000 --> 03:45:25,000
So the code doesn't apply to that as my question.

2542
03:45:25,000 --> 03:45:29,000
That's a really, I'm not 100% sure how those are done.

2543
03:45:29,000 --> 03:45:31,000
And unless there's a time limit issue there.

2544
03:45:31,000 --> 03:45:37,000
And unless there's a time limit, I think that for the most part we see a lot of those facilities in warmer climates.

2545
03:45:37,000 --> 03:45:45,000
Also, I think that we don't have much in our area or other areas that have a similar climate.

2546
03:45:45,000 --> 03:45:51,000
Climate just because of the extremists, you know, winter is long and it's hard.

2547
03:45:51,000 --> 03:45:54,000
So I don't know what the answer is.

2548
03:45:54,000 --> 03:45:59,000
Like I said, I'm hopeful that we'll have some progress, like we did with the years.

2549
03:45:59,000 --> 03:46:02,000
But time will tell.

2550
03:46:02,000 --> 03:46:17,000
And until they are upgraded as far as the building of them, and the fact that they're on the DMV tax roll instead of real property,

2551
03:46:17,000 --> 03:46:21,000
is telling up the fact that they're not, they're vehicles basically.

2552
03:46:21,000 --> 03:46:29,000
So one of the questions I had is, if by chance someone was willing to put in a septic system,

2553
03:46:29,000 --> 03:46:36,000
have water come to the unit, like it wouldn't be in an RV park.

2554
03:46:36,000 --> 03:46:43,000
We still have the issue of the safety and the standard state was built to it.

2555
03:46:43,000 --> 03:46:49,000
So it really isn't watered except because as much as the structure of the unit.

2556
03:46:49,000 --> 03:46:50,000
Right.

2557
03:46:50,000 --> 03:46:54,000
From my perspective, I wouldn't be able to permit as a dwelling.

2558
03:46:54,000 --> 03:47:03,000
And maybe that's the difference is that RV parks are approved for the individual units,

2559
03:47:03,000 --> 03:47:09,000
hookups and not necessarily the RV itself.

2560
03:47:09,000 --> 03:47:11,000
So that would be.

2561
03:47:11,000 --> 03:47:12,000
I'm searching here.

2562
03:47:12,000 --> 03:47:19,000
I'm just so, you have a possibility of issuing a permit for the homeowner to have a RV park on his.

2563
03:47:19,000 --> 03:47:20,000
No.

2564
03:47:20,000 --> 03:47:21,000
Because of the zoning.

2565
03:47:21,000 --> 03:47:22,000
It's in it.

2566
03:47:22,000 --> 03:47:23,000
Yeah.

2567
03:47:23,000 --> 03:47:24,000
The zoning.

2568
03:47:24,000 --> 03:47:25,000
And that would be more of a.

2569
03:47:25,000 --> 03:47:26,000
I'm just searching.

2570
03:47:26,000 --> 03:47:27,000
I'm trying to find a way to do that.

2571
03:47:27,000 --> 03:47:28,000
Yeah.

2572
03:47:28,000 --> 03:47:30,000
There's multiple layers.

2573
03:47:30,000 --> 03:47:35,000
There is something in the land development.

2574
03:47:35,000 --> 03:47:37,000
There is something in the land development.

2575
03:47:37,000 --> 03:47:39,000
Now RV parks.

2576
03:47:39,000 --> 03:47:45,000
We're camp parks and campsites and the criteria they have to follow to put one of those together.

2577
03:47:45,000 --> 03:47:47,000
And it's pretty quite extensive.

2578
03:47:47,000 --> 03:47:49,000
I do think, you know, RV.

2579
03:47:49,000 --> 03:47:55,000
RVs as someone mentioned earlier, they gave testimony as a transient living.

2580
03:47:55,000 --> 03:47:58,000
By choice or not by choice.

2581
03:47:58,000 --> 03:48:01,000
And that's why they have those RV parks.

2582
03:48:01,000 --> 03:48:07,000
But we do have a part in our land development code that covers campsites and creating them.

2583
03:48:07,000 --> 03:48:12,000
And the criteria around those in zoning and how to get, like, a special use permit.

2584
03:48:12,000 --> 03:48:16,000
But you don't have 40 acres at least to make an RV park.

2585
03:48:16,000 --> 03:48:17,000
Oh, to make it park.

2586
03:48:17,000 --> 03:48:18,000
Yeah.

2587
03:48:18,000 --> 03:48:22,000
So there is criteria to do an RV park.

2588
03:48:22,000 --> 03:48:27,000
But just to live in an RV as a residential dwelling.

2589
03:48:27,000 --> 03:48:29,000
We don't have anything.

2590
03:48:30,000 --> 03:48:34,000
There's your powers that have any questions or comments.

2591
03:48:34,000 --> 03:48:44,000
So I would just echo what Mr. Jay or Mr. Wolf said earlier about finding the way to permit this.

2592
03:48:44,000 --> 03:48:47,000
I mean, it's just such a need.

2593
03:48:47,000 --> 03:48:52,000
We're at AC last September.

2594
03:48:52,000 --> 03:48:54,000
We've got brought up in a county meeting.

2595
03:48:54,000 --> 03:48:57,000
Every county was struggling with this.

2596
03:48:57,000 --> 03:49:00,000
Every county seeing demand for it.

2597
03:49:00,000 --> 03:49:04,000
So we've got to address it somehow.

2598
03:49:04,000 --> 03:49:08,000
I mean, my question would be that we're going to approve it for 180 days.

2599
03:49:08,000 --> 03:49:11,000
Is there a time period that they're there 180 days.

2600
03:49:11,000 --> 03:49:14,000
A lead for two weeks that can come back for 180 days.

2601
03:49:14,000 --> 03:49:17,000
I mean, no, well, at least to the example I gave you.

2602
03:49:17,000 --> 03:49:21,000
They don't let allow them to live and I'm during November to March.

2603
03:49:21,000 --> 03:49:23,000
Okay, that's that specifically.

2604
03:49:23,000 --> 03:49:24,000
Yeah.

2605
03:49:24,000 --> 03:49:29,000
And that was in both of those because of the climate of Idaho.

2606
03:49:29,000 --> 03:49:34,000
California, they do let them live in RVs and some of the city.

2607
03:49:34,000 --> 03:49:35,000
Yeah.

2608
03:49:35,000 --> 03:49:40,000
And Portland and Seattle, they let them live in RVs on the side of the roads.

2609
03:49:40,000 --> 03:49:48,000
But we have, I guess, had that problem quite yet where we've extended that to that.

2610
03:49:48,000 --> 03:49:52,000
Well, I'd like to ask you to keep looking for anything that we could.

2611
03:49:52,000 --> 03:49:56,000
I don't disagree with the safety.

2612
03:49:56,000 --> 03:49:58,000
I mean, I think that's important.

2613
03:49:58,000 --> 03:50:02,000
But by the same token, if they're willing to do it.

2614
03:50:02,000 --> 03:50:05,000
And there's a way to do it.

2615
03:50:05,000 --> 03:50:07,000
I'd like to find it if we can't do it.

2616
03:50:07,000 --> 03:50:10,000
I mean, we can't go against law.

2617
03:50:10,000 --> 03:50:14,000
But if there's a loophole somewhere that allows it.

2618
03:50:14,000 --> 03:50:16,000
I'd love to find it or something changes.

2619
03:50:16,000 --> 03:50:18,000
I'd like to address it.

2620
03:50:18,000 --> 03:50:20,000
That's where I stand.

2621
03:50:20,000 --> 03:50:25,000
I will keep looking and perhaps contact IAC and see if they've.

2622
03:50:25,000 --> 03:50:28,000
If that was a big issue if they came up with.

2623
03:50:28,000 --> 03:50:31,000
Because there were people a lot of people that were concerned about.

2624
03:50:31,000 --> 03:50:32,000
Oh, I'm sure.

2625
03:50:32,000 --> 03:50:33,000
Yeah.

2626
03:50:33,000 --> 03:50:37,000
I mean, a few, I read some articles and with the short term.

2627
03:50:37,000 --> 03:50:39,000
Rentals, they've driven up.

2628
03:50:39,000 --> 03:50:43,000
Rentals, prices are gotten red or rentals a minutes for some of these issues.

2629
03:50:43,000 --> 03:50:44,000
Sure.

2630
03:50:44,000 --> 03:50:47,000
So I'll keep looking into it.

2631
03:50:47,000 --> 03:50:48,000
All right.

2632
03:50:48,000 --> 03:50:49,000
Well, thank you.

2633
03:50:50,000 --> 03:50:51,000
All right.

2634
03:50:51,000 --> 03:50:53,000
Joshua, do you have anything on that?

2635
03:50:57,000 --> 03:51:00,000
I would just say, yeah, certainly not the first time.

2636
03:51:00,000 --> 03:51:03,000
Conversations come up about it.

2637
03:51:03,000 --> 03:51:08,000
I wanted to thank Amber for the work she's done in looking into this.

2638
03:51:08,000 --> 03:51:09,000
Yeah.

2639
03:51:09,000 --> 03:51:11,000
I get some comparisons.

2640
03:51:11,000 --> 03:51:14,000
You know, if we were to make some changes, I think.

2641
03:51:14,000 --> 03:51:17,000
Probably moving more to the.

2642
03:51:17,000 --> 03:51:20,000
The specific months.

2643
03:51:20,000 --> 03:51:24,000
Maybe would be the right direction to go.

2644
03:51:24,000 --> 03:51:28,000
I think there's, you know, that's a sensible.

2645
03:51:28,000 --> 03:51:32,000
Position to take and makes things a lot simpler.

2646
03:51:32,000 --> 03:51:36,000
You know, we're, you know, not counting 90 days.

2647
03:51:36,000 --> 03:51:38,000
Or maybe things that we're looking for.

2648
03:51:38,000 --> 03:51:41,000
We know that there's a lot there.

2649
03:51:41,000 --> 03:51:45,000
And that might be a reason about reasonable balance to strike right now.

2650
03:51:45,000 --> 03:51:50,000
Just say, these are the months when it's not permitted.

2651
03:51:50,000 --> 03:51:56,000
And still deal with it on a kind of a complete basis, but.

2652
03:51:56,000 --> 03:52:03,000
Well, it was said some people are being passed over and some are being asked to leave.

2653
03:52:03,000 --> 03:52:05,000
And I think we do need to be.

2654
03:52:05,000 --> 03:52:08,000
Whatever we decide to be fair.

2655
03:52:08,000 --> 03:52:10,000
Whatever decides.

2656
03:52:10,000 --> 03:52:11,000
Yeah.

2657
03:52:11,000 --> 03:52:13,000
That puts that on you, Amber.

2658
03:52:14,000 --> 03:52:17,000
Right, and those are, I did speak to some someone about that.

2659
03:52:17,000 --> 03:52:19,000
But these are complaint driven.

2660
03:52:19,000 --> 03:52:20,000
I'm not driving around.

2661
03:52:20,000 --> 03:52:23,000
Look at other people living in our be sure then targeting them.

2662
03:52:23,000 --> 03:52:26,000
So if I get a complaint about anything.

2663
03:52:26,000 --> 03:52:28,000
I react to it.

2664
03:52:28,000 --> 03:52:33,000
But so it does, you know, I could, you could say lighting is an issue all over the county.

2665
03:52:33,000 --> 03:52:36,000
But I only respond to the complaints I get.

2666
03:52:36,000 --> 03:52:40,000
So it would be hard to contact 10,000 people at all.

2667
03:52:40,000 --> 03:52:42,000
They're lighting issues just because I haven't heard.

2668
03:52:42,000 --> 03:52:45,000
So I, it's definitely not targeted.

2669
03:52:45,000 --> 03:52:48,000
It's only it's complaint driven.

2670
03:52:48,000 --> 03:52:52,000
So if I hear about it, then I will reach out to those make sense.

2671
03:52:52,000 --> 03:52:56,000
So it's, it's, you could say that about any code compliance issue that there.

2672
03:52:56,000 --> 03:53:00,000
500 people are breaking it, but I only know about 1 person.

2673
03:53:00,000 --> 03:53:07,000
So it would be, you know, I can't, I guess if that's what it's, you're asking is that if I hear one replay.

2674
03:53:07,000 --> 03:53:12,000
I can't respond to it unless I go out and find the five other other people.

2675
03:53:12,000 --> 03:53:15,000
500 other people who are doing it, too.

2676
03:53:15,000 --> 03:53:21,000
It's sort of, that's kind of hard to, it's unfair for us to have you in your time.

2677
03:53:21,000 --> 03:53:29,000
At least less, we were a different county with more money to hire someone to drive around looking for people in violation.

2678
03:53:29,000 --> 03:53:30,000
Yeah.

2679
03:53:30,000 --> 03:53:33,000
And I, I get the complaint driven thing that makes sense to me.

2680
03:53:33,000 --> 03:53:36,000
And now, and it's not, and that way, it's not targeted.

2681
03:53:36,000 --> 03:53:43,000
I am just responding to because it would be hard to miss or it would be hard to find all of the code compliance ones.

2682
03:53:43,000 --> 03:53:48,000
But I did make that clear to some of you who did stop by.

2683
03:53:48,000 --> 03:53:55,000
And at this point, the other one, at the specific issue that brought this was there were two RVs on one property.

2684
03:53:55,000 --> 03:53:58,000
And then moved and I included the letters.

2685
03:53:58,000 --> 03:54:03,000
I have a seat, but obviously there are my public records request available to the public.

2686
03:54:03,000 --> 03:54:11,000
But for that specific issue, there was more, there were more details in it then.

2687
03:54:11,000 --> 03:54:13,000
Okay.

2688
03:54:13,000 --> 03:54:14,000
Thank you.

2689
03:54:14,000 --> 03:54:19,000
And the other thoughts, Commissioner Powers, are we on the right track?

2690
03:54:19,000 --> 03:54:20,000
All right.

2691
03:54:20,000 --> 03:54:22,000
All right.

2692
03:54:22,000 --> 03:54:26,000
Well, thank you for coming in and sharing.

2693
03:54:27,000 --> 03:54:32,000
All right. So I think we're down to 11,

2694
03:54:32,000 --> 03:54:35,000
3 or 5.

2695
03:54:35,000 --> 03:54:38,000
And we're not going to have the 115.

2696
03:54:38,000 --> 03:54:42,000
That's been postponed.

2697
03:54:42,000 --> 03:54:47,000
Is there anything in your commissioner's reports that you'd like to talk about commission powers?

2698
03:54:47,000 --> 03:54:49,000
I don't have anything.

2699
03:54:49,000 --> 03:54:50,000
Okay.

2700
03:54:50,000 --> 03:54:55,000
In view, I have nothing that's worth taking the time for right now.

2701
03:54:55,000 --> 03:55:02,000
So let's pass on that and go to now we're down to 13.1,

2702
03:55:02,000 --> 03:55:06,000
which has been postponed until December 22nd.

2703
03:55:06,000 --> 03:55:11,000
That is a public hearing for the Teton AI.

2704
03:55:11,000 --> 03:55:18,000
Was there, there was nothing we needed to discuss in this meeting for that?

2705
03:55:18,000 --> 03:55:19,000
Yeah.

2706
03:55:19,000 --> 03:55:22,000
So we postponed the public hearing.

2707
03:55:22,000 --> 03:55:25,000
I do have just a discussion item on Teton AI.

2708
03:55:25,000 --> 03:55:27,000
Oh, there it is.

2709
03:55:27,000 --> 03:55:28,000
I'm 13.3.

2710
03:55:28,000 --> 03:55:30,000
So let's go ahead and do that while you're standing there.

2711
03:55:30,000 --> 03:55:33,000
Maybe, could we just finish these other two decisions?

2712
03:55:33,000 --> 03:55:35,000
We'll come back to AI.

2713
03:55:35,000 --> 03:55:38,000
Discussion is the last point on planning.

2714
03:55:38,000 --> 03:55:39,000
Okay.

2715
03:55:39,000 --> 03:55:41,000
So,

2716
03:55:41,000 --> 03:55:44,000
13.2 has been postponed also.

2717
03:55:44,000 --> 03:55:47,000
Is that my correct on the Osprey landing?

2718
03:55:47,000 --> 03:55:48,000
Correct.

2719
03:55:48,000 --> 03:55:51,000
I apologize that.

2720
03:55:51,000 --> 03:55:54,000
We had a realization.

2721
03:55:54,000 --> 03:56:01,000
We were preparing to report on an extension request that we didn't have a final motion made for that.

2722
03:56:01,000 --> 03:56:04,000
I think it was a consequence of.

2723
03:56:04,000 --> 03:56:06,000
We wanted more information.

2724
03:56:06,000 --> 03:56:12,000
So we were waiting, but then maybe we assumed we'd made a decision when they brought that information back.

2725
03:56:12,000 --> 03:56:17,000
So I did let this applicant know that that was postponed.

2726
03:56:17,000 --> 03:56:23,000
They, you know, really, this accomplishes the extension bias making a later decision.

2727
03:56:23,000 --> 03:56:24,000
Okay.

2728
03:56:24,000 --> 03:56:26,000
So, yes.

2729
03:56:26,000 --> 03:56:27,000
All right.

2730
03:56:27,000 --> 03:56:35,000
So then let's go ahead and do go to 13.4, which is a written decision for the June 2 LLC special use permit.

2731
03:56:36,000 --> 03:56:38,000
Thank you, commissioners.

2732
03:56:38,000 --> 03:56:47,000
As you recall, this was a second special use permit for an additional structure on a site that already had a special use permit.

2733
03:56:47,000 --> 03:56:55,000
I don't think there was anything unique that I had questions about in preparing this, but any questions or concerns on this one.

2734
03:56:55,000 --> 03:56:58,000
Not for me, commissioner power.

2735
03:56:59,000 --> 03:57:00,000
Which one?

2736
03:57:00,000 --> 03:57:01,000
13.

2737
03:57:01,000 --> 03:57:07,000
This will be June 2 for a special use permit for a facility shelter.

2738
03:57:07,000 --> 03:57:08,000
Yeah.

2739
03:57:08,000 --> 03:57:09,000
For fiber optic.

2740
03:57:09,000 --> 03:57:13,000
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

2741
03:57:13,000 --> 03:57:14,000
All right.

2742
03:57:14,000 --> 03:57:27,000
So if there's no further discussion, I'd make a motion that we approve the written decision for the June 2 LLC special use permit as written.

2743
03:57:28,000 --> 03:57:29,000
I'll second.

2744
03:57:29,000 --> 03:57:31,000
I'll second all favor.

2745
03:57:31,000 --> 03:57:32,000
Aye.

2746
03:57:32,000 --> 03:57:33,000
Aye.

2747
03:57:33,000 --> 03:57:35,000
Motion carries.

2748
03:57:35,000 --> 03:57:40,000
13.5 is written decision that the T done springs minor platter amendment.

2749
03:57:40,000 --> 03:57:42,000
Thank you, commissioners.

2750
03:57:42,000 --> 03:57:46,000
This we had very little discussion of.

2751
03:57:46,000 --> 03:57:49,000
Fairly straightforward in terms of what the request was.

2752
03:57:49,000 --> 03:57:56,000
However, in preparing this report or this written decision, we identified that we had.

2753
03:57:57,000 --> 03:58:00,000
The lots.

2754
03:58:00,000 --> 03:58:02,000
That were of interest.

2755
03:58:02,000 --> 03:58:07,000
Specifically misidentified in application materials and that carried through.

2756
03:58:07,000 --> 03:58:09,000
We did correct.

2757
03:58:09,000 --> 03:58:10,000
The.

2758
03:58:10,000 --> 03:58:15,000
Lot numbers and parcels in play for this request in this written decision.

2759
03:58:15,000 --> 03:58:21,000
So it should represent what the applicant wanted and the intent of the burden.

2760
03:58:22,000 --> 03:58:23,000
It's not.

2761
03:58:23,000 --> 03:58:24,000
It's not that.

2762
03:58:24,000 --> 03:58:25,000
Okay.

2763
03:58:25,000 --> 03:58:27,000
I should powers any.

2764
03:58:27,000 --> 03:58:29,000
Then you have.

2765
03:58:29,000 --> 03:58:31,000
Um.

2766
03:58:31,000 --> 03:58:33,000
Question your comments.

2767
03:58:33,000 --> 03:58:36,000
Um.

2768
03:58:36,000 --> 03:58:38,000
Uh, I was just.

2769
03:58:38,000 --> 03:58:39,000
What we call.

2770
03:58:39,000 --> 03:58:42,000
Who's your James building name on.

2771
03:58:42,000 --> 03:58:44,000
Um.

2772
03:58:44,000 --> 03:58:46,000
You called.

2773
03:58:46,000 --> 03:58:47,000
The.

2774
03:58:47,000 --> 03:58:49,000
The reason why.

2775
03:58:50,000 --> 03:58:51,000
Was.

2776
03:58:51,000 --> 03:58:53,000
Did he vote near abstain.

2777
03:58:53,000 --> 03:58:56,000
Was that the day he abstained from everything.

2778
03:58:56,000 --> 03:58:58,000
I can't remember.

2779
03:58:58,000 --> 03:58:59,000
Yeah.

2780
03:58:59,000 --> 03:59:00,000
That's my understanding.

2781
03:59:00,000 --> 03:59:04,000
Is it was the day that he just didn't vote on.

2782
03:59:04,000 --> 03:59:05,000
Okay.

2783
03:59:05,000 --> 03:59:06,000
Yeah.

2784
03:59:06,000 --> 03:59:07,000
You're.

2785
03:59:07,000 --> 03:59:09,000
That's correct.

2786
03:59:09,000 --> 03:59:10,000
That we.

2787
03:59:10,000 --> 03:59:12,000
Miss identify that on the decision.

2788
03:59:12,000 --> 03:59:14,000
Yeah.

2789
03:59:14,000 --> 03:59:15,000
Well, it does say he voted.

2790
03:59:15,000 --> 03:59:17,000
May and to be a stain.

2791
03:59:17,000 --> 03:59:18,000
A layer.

2792
03:59:18,000 --> 03:59:19,000
Different.

2793
03:59:19,000 --> 03:59:20,000
Right.

2794
03:59:20,000 --> 03:59:21,000
I know that the same outcome.

2795
03:59:21,000 --> 03:59:22,000
But by my may are.

2796
03:59:22,000 --> 03:59:23,000
Okay.

2797
03:59:23,000 --> 03:59:24,000
So like we can make that change.

2798
03:59:24,000 --> 03:59:26,000
If you want to approve it with that change.

2799
03:59:26,000 --> 03:59:27,000
But can.

2800
03:59:27,000 --> 03:59:29,000
Can you verify that before we.

2801
03:59:29,000 --> 03:59:30,000
Change.

2802
03:59:30,000 --> 03:59:31,000
Okay.

2803
03:59:33,000 --> 03:59:34,000
See.

2804
03:59:34,000 --> 03:59:35,000
That's.

2805
03:59:35,000 --> 03:59:37,000
That's the last.

2806
03:59:37,000 --> 03:59:40,000
Is that November 10th.

2807
03:59:40,000 --> 03:59:43,000
That's the only date I see here.

2808
03:59:44,000 --> 03:59:53,000
I think it was.

2809
03:59:53,000 --> 03:59:54,000
Yeah.

2810
03:59:54,000 --> 03:59:56,000
For Dyke was.

2811
03:59:56,000 --> 03:59:58,000
I can check that real quick.

2812
03:59:58,000 --> 03:59:59,000
Okay.

2813
04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:10,000
関連駅は3,000円が出させる。

2814
04:00:30,000 --> 04:00:36,760
じゃあ、ちょっと同じだよ。

2815
04:00:41,520 --> 04:00:44,240
1億多くの時間の時間が、

2816
04:00:44,240 --> 04:00:46,240
これは……

2817
04:00:46,240 --> 04:00:46,600
絶対、

2818
04:00:46,600 --> 04:00:48,440
ここは本当に行わないです。

2819
04:00:48,440 --> 04:00:51,520
ああ、

2820
04:00:51,520 --> 04:00:52,440
2億多くの時間は違います。

2821
04:00:52,440 --> 04:00:56,680
これはもう絶対勝利です。

2822
04:00:56,680 --> 04:00:59,480
4億 appointed was the new one.

2823
04:00:59,480 --> 04:01:05,940
静かというやつを受けてから授業を受けることをすると

2824
04:01:05,940 --> 04:01:08,160
好きなのは無理です

2825
04:01:08,900 --> 04:01:11,480
イゼントの καうに

2826
04:01:12,480 --> 04:01:14,760
では外合の場所が進んでいる

2827
04:01:14,880 --> 04:01:17,360
と 回したい場所の上がりの

2828
04:01:17,460 --> 04:01:20,580
先に単位と簡単に

2829
04:01:21,040 --> 04:01:22,140
上がるなやつ

2830
04:01:22,140 --> 04:01:23,260
それを聴き止める

2831
04:01:23,380 --> 04:01:23,800
この好きです

2832
04:01:23,920 --> 04:01:25,740
加えていった

2833
04:01:25,800 --> 04:01:26,640
加えたら

2834
04:01:26,640 --> 04:01:35,840
あなたの上がりが抱えていてた

2835
04:01:35,840 --> 04:01:40,880
まったらありません

2836
04:01:40,880 --> 04:01:46,640
この中に伸びます

2837
04:01:46,680 --> 04:01:52,120
とてもそう

2838
04:01:52,120 --> 04:01:54,840
とても好き

2839
04:01:54,840 --> 04:01:58,840
ということになるかもしれません

2840
04:01:58,840 --> 04:02:03,840
この後はエアワーを決めておきます

2841
04:02:03,840 --> 04:02:06,840
このようにエアワーを決めておきます

2842
04:02:06,840 --> 04:02:12,840
エアワーを決めておきます

2843
04:02:12,840 --> 04:02:17,080
え、あ、手に入れてないんだ。

2844
04:02:17,080 --> 04:02:20,420
この構図は、お前のディエールの方が欠かれ違反ると思っています。

2845
04:02:20,420 --> 04:02:23,740
寄らかしい若干が、

2846
04:02:23,740 --> 04:02:26,380
その道具も取らなくて、

2847
04:02:26,380 --> 04:02:29,440
あの対応あったらそれがすごく緊張すんだと思うんだ。

2848
04:02:29,440 --> 04:02:33,040
だから寄壁が本当に思ってしまった。

2849
04:02:33,040 --> 04:02:35,940
4弾粘音は?

2850
04:02:37,040 --> 04:02:42,040
12弾粘音って、お前はクリスから

2851
04:02:44,040 --> 04:02:53,040
6弾粘音があったら1弾粘音を感じられた

2852
04:02:54,040 --> 04:02:56,040
1弾粘音を感じられた

2853
04:02:56,040 --> 04:03:03,040
スキューの隠り方が多いのに、

2854
04:03:03,040 --> 04:03:10,040
スキューは見上がっていたので、

2855
04:03:10,040 --> 04:03:15,040
スキューが集まったことがあるから、

2856
04:03:15,040 --> 04:03:19,040
スキューを使っているのに、

2857
04:03:19,040 --> 04:03:25,040
スキューを使っているのに、

2858
04:03:25,040 --> 04:03:29,040
スクッシャー

2859
04:03:35,040 --> 04:03:39,040
スクッシャー

2860
04:03:43,040 --> 04:03:49,040
スクッシャー

2861
04:03:55,040 --> 04:04:00,880
ぶちょっ

2862
04:04:02,880 --> 04:04:06,200
ああ

2863
04:04:08,560 --> 04:04:09,280
ああ

2864
04:04:09,280 --> 04:04:12,360
そう

2865
04:04:12,360 --> 04:04:13,280
あれ

2866
04:04:13,280 --> 04:04:14,040
はい

2867
04:04:14,040 --> 04:04:17,600
なたの

2868
04:04:17,600 --> 04:04:22,060
プロンスロー

2869
04:04:22,060 --> 04:04:26,060
スティー ケーキのエレベントをポイントを見ると色々に変わったので、

2870
04:04:26,060 --> 04:04:31,060
エレベントを使い、エレベンと能力していたら気持ちしているのです。

2871
04:04:31,060 --> 04:04:36,060
私は不思議にもとなってさらにしましょう。

2872
04:04:36,060 --> 04:04:40,060
合わせば 日本でティー バックコレートを試合したので、

2873
04:04:40,060 --> 04:04:43,060
育体に言っているが何かも楽しんでいるのが、

2874
04:04:43,060 --> 04:04:45,060
ブラックが、その役の秘討ないので、

2875
04:04:45,060 --> 04:04:46,060
順番を使っているために、

2876
04:04:46,060 --> 04:04:47,060
ニンスティー型のメイゲを買ったpurishで、

2877
04:04:47,060 --> 04:04:51,060
楽しみにことを取り付けたので、

2878
04:04:51,060 --> 04:04:55,080
このアイアイリアいオイを使うと

2879
04:04:56,340 --> 04:04:59,180
このような向かでも

2880
04:04:59,180 --> 04:05:01,040
どうすれば 今回は

2881
04:05:01,040 --> 04:05:06,160
AUIの自分の手を出る時に

2882
04:05:06,160 --> 04:05:07,900
この画像があってね

2883
04:05:07,900 --> 04:05:09,100
二回のライオンがある

2884
04:05:09,100 --> 04:05:10,180
シャンボーキさんが

2885
04:05:10,200 --> 04:05:12,180
これを見て

2886
04:05:12,980 --> 04:05:14,280
あなたが

2887
04:05:14,280 --> 04:05:15,000
どんな意味を

2888
04:05:15,000 --> 04:05:16,340
知ったら

2889
04:05:16,340 --> 04:05:18,020
アイアリア動画を

2890
04:05:18,920 --> 04:05:20,700
実際に

2891
04:05:20,700 --> 04:05:26,300
このスキャミ・チョコリベルのアイレーションで

2892
04:05:26,300 --> 04:05:29,700
実現したレシアがあるので、

2893
04:05:29,700 --> 04:05:34,700
ニュークセルでより流行っている

2894
04:05:34,700 --> 04:05:39,700
どのおのより、

2895
04:05:39,700 --> 04:05:42,040
カルチャパリニーのパリニーを

2896
04:05:42,040 --> 04:05:45,340
とまったら、

2897
04:05:45,340 --> 04:05:47,740
ポイントを作りました。

2898
04:05:47,740 --> 04:05:54,740
コメントにいるとなっていると、何かかわからずかりもなかったんででも、

2899
04:05:54,740 --> 04:05:58,040
なんか何かとなるのか聞こえたら、

2900
04:05:58,040 --> 04:06:03,640
この言葉を知らずに燃やすいですが、

2901
04:06:03,640 --> 04:06:06,100
その手が放負ったら起こないそのもちもったから

2902
04:06:06,100 --> 04:06:08,340
押した野獲にそーしてしまうと、

2903
04:06:08,340 --> 04:06:09,840
私は何かとなくなりますか?

2904
04:06:09,840 --> 04:06:14,660
私は初期の幸せがあったらもうダメージしたいもなかったか?

2905
04:06:14,660 --> 04:06:18,000
その確実は咲かれています。

2906
04:06:21,840 --> 04:06:25,220
こんなの字を 取り付け取り付け違えてしまう。

2907
04:06:25,280 --> 04:06:26,460
そしてそれにバイスにしました。

2908
04:06:27,960 --> 04:06:35,340
並bedingにび 画面を背中をしまげるだけは アップを作っていて 覚えてくれてます。

2909
04:06:36,560 --> 04:06:40,780
私何なという事にやってみても しました。

2910
04:06:40,780 --> 04:06:48,580
holinessがもりている人たちが好きな 自分の字を考えてみています

2911
04:06:48,580 --> 04:06:57,360
どうしようと考えてたかの字を考えています

2912
04:06:57,360 --> 04:07:03,580
この間のどこから選んだというのが あとも知らながら

2913
04:07:03,580 --> 04:07:05,700
後はこの隠った〜

2914
04:07:06,700 --> 04:07:16,200
今回から下地を見ると 歯ごたんだと 役立が出ると一番役立が出ていた

2915
04:07:16,200 --> 04:07:20,480
通りは行くと 何かに行くんだ

2916
04:07:20,480 --> 04:07:23,180
6月半で売り込んでいる

2917
04:07:23,180 --> 04:07:26,520
少しでも 男の舞台は3月半

2918
04:07:26,520 --> 04:07:28,580
役立が出ていた

2919
04:07:28,580 --> 04:07:31,460
子とは 妹とは 役立が出た

2920
04:07:31,460 --> 04:07:32,420
この子も 役立が出た

2921
04:07:32,420 --> 04:07:39,940
または、なかなか外国が閉じるかと、使い方もいいですか?

2922
04:07:39,940 --> 04:07:43,940
やはり、私はおいしい。

2923
04:07:43,940 --> 04:07:49,320
経験も私が言っている?

2924
04:07:49,320 --> 04:07:52,500
勝手がかかるなんで、私は海重東京のこちら 今日の環境であるんじゃないか。

2925
04:07:52,500 --> 04:08:02,500
この方は、当たりこのように数が30分かりある時は、

2926
04:08:02,500 --> 04:08:04,500
先ほどのある方がありませんでした。

2927
04:08:04,500 --> 04:08:06,500
私のように見えられるように、

2928
04:08:06,500 --> 04:08:09,500
それがとっても無理的な理由などと考えているというふうなど、

2929
04:08:09,500 --> 04:08:11,500
そのように、それに少し同じに言葉を使わせたら、

2930
04:08:11,500 --> 04:08:13,500
それを使わせたら、

2931
04:08:13,500 --> 04:08:15,500
そのようになどを行っているというふうなどに行っている

2932
04:08:15,500 --> 04:08:16,500
そして、そのように行くと、

2933
04:08:16,500 --> 04:08:18,500
それに全てのように隙間が見えます。

2934
04:08:18,500 --> 04:08:25,500
その 維持に 環境したら、 財値とスイートは?

2935
04:08:25,500 --> 04:08:30,040
安倍を取り取り取り取り取り取り取り取り取り取り取り取りを取り取り取り取り取り取り取り

2936
04:08:30,040 --> 04:08:38,500
自分に 向き方が見えて、0.5の意味を持っても 性格が スイートが分からないでしょ

2937
04:08:38,500 --> 04:08:44,260
これらを生きる ということを一緒に ズビーカーがあったらそして

2938
04:08:44,260 --> 04:08:46,700
そういう意味がありませんか?

2939
04:08:47,840 --> 04:08:51,740
日本の社会の交争をし、この大きさを買います。

2940
04:08:52,740 --> 04:08:57,880
この道歸で、このときの世界 世界に行きたいって 考えられるかもしれないですか?

2941
04:08:57,920 --> 04:09:04,480
でもこの道歸は、今の道歸は 考えられるかもしれないですか?

2942
04:09:04,480 --> 04:09:10,880
その道歸は、この道歸は、この道歸は、そこに行きたいかもしれないですか?

2943
04:09:10,880 --> 04:09:15,880
簡単などがいろいろな活動がありますが、

2944
04:09:15,880 --> 04:09:19,880
でも関係のような気分があるのは、

2945
04:09:19,880 --> 04:09:20,880
何かで今は、

2946
04:09:20,880 --> 04:09:23,880
今はどこでも、

2947
04:09:23,880 --> 04:09:28,320
もう一度の自分の活動とこの歳に同じものを

2948
04:09:28,320 --> 04:09:29,880
なぜもならないかもる?

2949
04:09:29,880 --> 04:09:31,880
なんですけど、

2950
04:09:31,880 --> 04:09:33,880
私は探してありますから、

2951
04:09:33,880 --> 04:09:37,880
私は徹底に貼るものを探しており、

2952
04:09:37,880 --> 04:09:48,260
その時は、動画を見ると聞かんないと考えています。

2953
04:09:48,260 --> 04:09:57,580
考えているのは、仲間コンプの野菜館の館さんが平衡でした。

2954
04:09:57,580 --> 04:10:17,260
という仲感が注意される本当かにご監睭じゃないのです ひれと

2955
04:10:17,260 --> 04:10:19,640
こういうことによります

2956
04:10:19,640 --> 04:10:26,740
わically,もういったらこれはここに

2957
04:10:26,740 --> 04:10:32,540
このようなアンボールスマックスの頂戴を見ると イーシングを気付き忍してます

2958
04:10:32,540 --> 04:10:35,940
これは壊れないと覚えを掛けてください

2959
04:10:35,940 --> 04:10:39,540
あなたの様子をするという意味の様子なんです

2960
04:10:39,540 --> 04:10:41,540
勝利です

2961
04:10:41,540 --> 04:10:43,940
あなたの名前を見せて イーシングを選んでいる

2962
04:10:43,940 --> 04:10:48,220
でもこの名前は今のフロクの考試を選ぶ

2963
04:10:48,220 --> 04:10:52,380
これがドライブに今の頂戴を値段してやる

2964
04:10:52,380 --> 04:10:53,140
このアンボールスマックスマックスの頂戴を選ぶ

2965
04:10:53,140 --> 04:10:56,100
そのために ハワーのメリカを選す

2966
04:10:56,100 --> 04:11:01,480
そのための可能性はそのまま現状疑があります。

2967
04:11:01,480 --> 04:11:04,380
だから、県のようになければなりたいと私は

2968
04:11:04,380 --> 04:11:08,540
いろいろなことがとっていたのが

2969
04:11:08,540 --> 04:11:10,100
それが多かったやはり、

2970
04:11:10,100 --> 04:11:12,140
一日アドゥースが下出したいのような

2971
04:11:12,140 --> 04:11:13,600
私は千万アドゥースが

2972
04:11:13,600 --> 04:11:15,940
あるんだけど 私が与えるんだすが

2973
04:11:15,940 --> 04:11:18,180
あまりのことが可能でなっていますが

2974
04:11:18,180 --> 04:11:20,740
あまりに伺いたおまーすが

2975
04:11:20,740 --> 04:11:23,880
まだ何か言葉を知っていたか

2976
04:11:23,880 --> 04:11:33,900
ハマリシナッツまでいてネットを考えることにしていると思 leider。

2977
04:11:33,900 --> 04:11:39,060
それを教えておもらおうかさは、

2978
04:11:39,060 --> 04:11:40,320
この人とわかりながら、

2979
04:11:40,320 --> 04:11:44,540
このように考えておもらえます。

2980
04:11:44,540 --> 04:11:45,900
慣れているのをご覧ください。

2981
04:11:45,900 --> 04:11:47,800
このように考えると、

2982
04:11:47,800 --> 04:11:50,320
このように考えますが、

2983
04:11:50,320 --> 04:11:52,000
彼がないのかもしれません。

2984
04:11:52,000 --> 04:11:54,200
ieving単状をあり、

2985
04:11:54,200 --> 04:11:57,540
彼は彼は止めてください。

2986
04:11:57,540 --> 04:12:02,600
活躍方向を知らないので、

2987
04:12:02,600 --> 04:12:06,600
しようなアイスとしたので、

2988
04:12:06,600 --> 04:12:10,020
これは例えばアイスをとてから

2989
04:12:10,020 --> 04:12:10,520
しているというアイスを

2990
04:12:10,520 --> 04:12:11,360
グラグラブ連絡し削った

2991
04:12:11,360 --> 04:12:14,760
とても東京のあるところです

2992
04:12:14,760 --> 04:12:17,640
年度は一つのアイスが

2993
04:12:17,640 --> 04:12:18,840
例の動画もありませんが

2994
04:12:18,840 --> 04:12:21,040
それも見えないと

2995
04:12:21,040 --> 04:12:22,440
知られているものが

2996
04:12:22,440 --> 04:12:24,080
何でもありませんが

2997
04:12:24,080 --> 04:12:27,880
今は、

2998
04:12:27,880 --> 04:12:31,880
ちょうど呼ばれていました。

2999
04:12:31,880 --> 04:12:35,880
まずは、会話を持って会話をもう行っていました。

3000
04:12:35,880 --> 04:12:39,880
とても良いんですか?

3001
04:12:39,880 --> 04:12:44,880
残って、女の仕事で県の長い間からの仕事を持っていました。

3002
04:12:44,880 --> 04:12:51,880
摆布樊の母が八ったら、何て思い出すがいいと思います。

3003
04:12:51,880 --> 04:12:57,720
音楽大きさで、清中したいとも3人の負子などがおよそ、

3004
04:12:58,200 --> 04:13:01,920
この平均日本の sec白姉部がありますが、

3005
04:13:01,920 --> 04:13:06,240
内側に新沢所を使ったことがあり、

3006
04:13:06,240 --> 04:13:10,020
同様に、

3007
04:13:10,020 --> 04:13:12,840
新沢所が高いのより、

3008
04:13:12,840 --> 04:13:15,720
昔は簡単だったら澄めて、

3009
04:13:15,720 --> 04:13:19,640
saunaの意味があるかもしれませんが、

3010
04:13:19,640 --> 04:13:23,760
どの様に達จ化してることがあるので、

3011
04:13:23,760 --> 04:13:27,200
アワインスターンを呼んでいますが、

3012
04:13:27,440 --> 04:13:31,240
カツスターンのためにお伝えようか

3013
04:13:31,240 --> 04:13:33,680
少なくなっているばらくて、

3014
04:13:33,680 --> 04:13:36,220
やり方が簡単に失礼することができるので

3015
04:13:36,220 --> 04:13:38,620
やり返しながら、

3016
04:13:38,620 --> 04:13:40,680
まだまだからの間に切るように

3017
04:13:40,680 --> 04:13:43,140
できるっているのは大きな事を

3018
04:13:43,140 --> 04:13:46,600
実際予定される方が決めて

3019
04:13:46,600 --> 04:13:50,600
私が失敗すると 私はそれからお取りを見つけます。

3020
04:13:50,600 --> 04:13:53,600
私は私の柄やすい済ら経ちにとって来る 私の知らしたらも同じようにした状態になってくると、

3021
04:13:53,600 --> 04:13:56,600
私は私にも同じにとても魅力なのにによって経過してないと、

3022
04:13:56,600 --> 04:13:58,220
私の知られたらよく aventになるから、

3023
04:13:58,220 --> 04:14:00,600
私は私の知られたような状態になるから経過にとってくるみたいなのです。

3024
04:14:00,600 --> 04:14:03,600
私は私は私の側面だって瞬間をより似てると、

3025
04:14:03,600 --> 04:14:05,600
私は私の私は知られば私が状態になると言わないと、

3026
04:14:05,600 --> 04:14:07,600
私は私は私は私は私は俺の知らやすいに。

3027
04:14:07,600 --> 04:14:09,080
に行きます。

3028
04:14:09,080 --> 04:14:10,580
見えないかが活かしたら、

3029
04:14:10,580 --> 04:14:11,780
実際に言われます。

3030
04:14:11,780 --> 04:14:13,500
ですね、

3031
04:14:13,500 --> 04:14:14,740
この所で行かないか、

3032
04:14:14,740 --> 04:14:15,420
でも、

3033
04:14:15,420 --> 04:14:16,760
無理したら、

3034
04:14:16,760 --> 04:14:17,020
全てに言い直す方が

3035
04:14:17,020 --> 04:14:18,460
ならない?

3036
04:14:18,460 --> 04:14:20,200
簡単に明日 regarding this.

3037
04:14:20,200 --> 04:14:21,820
頼り方に行くかか?

3038
04:14:21,820 --> 04:14:23,200
見てるよ。

3039
04:14:23,200 --> 04:14:24,720
今に、

3040
04:14:24,720 --> 04:14:25,580
知らなさいことが

3041
04:14:25,580 --> 04:14:27,660
必要すると

3042
04:14:27,660 --> 04:14:28,820
このようなコメントを

3043
04:14:28,820 --> 04:14:30,000
考えているのに

3044
04:14:30,000 --> 04:14:31,520
考えてるのか?

3045
04:14:31,520 --> 04:14:34,220
皆さんはもちろん

3046
04:14:34,220 --> 04:14:34,440
、

3047
04:14:34,440 --> 04:14:35,320
知らせているのか?

3048
04:14:35,320 --> 04:14:36,620
申し訳します。

3049
04:14:36,620 --> 04:14:46,620
このところは、大きなのに、対応な形からは、ママワールを考えたり。

3050
04:14:46,620 --> 04:14:52,620
彼のテーキは、自らのかもしれられていないことは、

3051
04:14:52,620 --> 04:14:59,620
それはまたずに乗っていることがありません。

3052
04:14:59,620 --> 04:15:02,620
デークの頑張った日々。

3053
04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:07,000
What do I want? If they want to go further north, I'm fine with that.

3054
04:15:07,000 --> 04:15:20,000
I think that they were okay with what's being proposed here. There's city council will meet tomorrow night and we'll try to have that.

3055
04:15:20,000 --> 04:15:29,000
A.O.I. code, you know, they'll for them to look at, but essentially moving forward, it's the county's decision.

3056
04:15:29,000 --> 04:15:33,000
The city can provide comment into that public hearing process.

3057
04:15:33,000 --> 04:15:35,000
That's how they participate.

3058
04:15:35,000 --> 04:15:41,000
If they've got concerns, but anyways, that's all I've got for you this time.

3059
04:15:41,000 --> 04:15:43,000
Okay.

3060
04:15:43,000 --> 04:15:45,000
I appreciate it. Yeah, I think.

3061
04:15:45,000 --> 04:15:49,000
It's commissioner powers that I think we're on the right track.

3062
04:15:49,000 --> 04:15:50,000
Yeah.

3063
04:15:50,000 --> 04:15:53,000
Okay. Well, thank you for your time.

3064
04:15:53,000 --> 04:15:56,000
Anything else, commissioner powers, you good?

3065
04:15:56,000 --> 04:15:58,000
No.

3066
04:15:58,000 --> 04:15:59,000
Okay.

3067
04:15:59,000 --> 04:16:00,000
I'll get that.

3068
04:16:00,000 --> 04:16:02,000
This is incorrect.

3069
04:16:02,000 --> 04:16:08,000
So just for the record, if anybody's online or didn't hear at the beginning of the meeting,

3070
04:16:08,000 --> 04:16:23,000
we have postponed action item or not postponed that continued at 13.7 because of a conflict and how it was on the agenda.

3071
04:16:23,000 --> 04:16:26,000
And we'll do that on December 22nd.

3072
04:16:26,000 --> 04:16:32,000
So that concludes it except for item.

3073
04:16:33,000 --> 04:16:35,000
I'm trying to find it.

3074
04:16:35,000 --> 04:16:38,000
9.1.

3075
04:16:38,000 --> 04:16:41,000
And she just texted me and said that she's on the way.

3076
04:16:41,000 --> 04:16:44,000
So we could take like a 5 or 10 minute break.

3077
04:16:44,000 --> 04:16:45,000
I love that.

3078
04:16:45,000 --> 04:16:46,000
Okay.

3079
04:16:46,000 --> 04:16:49,000
Let's go ahead and recess for about five minutes.

3080
04:16:49,000 --> 04:16:51,000
And we'll reconvene shortly.

3081
04:17:02,000 --> 04:17:04,000
Thank you.

3082
04:17:32,000 --> 04:17:34,000
Thank you.

3083
04:18:02,000 --> 04:18:03,000
Thank you.

3084
04:18:32,000 --> 04:18:33,000
Thank you.

3085
04:19:02,000 --> 04:19:03,000
Thank you.

3086
04:19:32,000 --> 04:19:33,000
Thank you.

3087
04:20:02,000 --> 04:20:03,000
Thank you.

3088
04:20:32,000 --> 04:20:33,000
Thank you.

3089
04:21:02,000 --> 04:21:03,000
Thank you.

3090
04:21:32,000 --> 04:21:33,000
Thank you.

3091
04:21:33,000 --> 04:21:34,000
Thank you.

3092
04:22:02,000 --> 04:22:03,000
Thank you.

3093
04:22:32,000 --> 04:22:33,000
Thank you.

3094
04:23:02,000 --> 04:23:03,000
Thank you.

3095
04:23:32,000 --> 04:23:33,000
Thank you.

3096
04:24:02,000 --> 04:24:03,000
Thank you.

3097
04:24:03,000 --> 04:24:04,000
Thank you.

3098
04:24:32,000 --> 04:24:33,000
Thank you.

3099
04:24:33,000 --> 04:24:34,000
Thank you.

3100
04:25:02,000 --> 04:25:03,000
Thank you.

3101
04:25:03,000 --> 04:25:04,000
Thank you.

3102
04:25:32,000 --> 04:25:33,000
Thank you.

3103
04:25:33,000 --> 04:25:34,000
Thank you.

3104
04:26:02,000 --> 04:26:03,000
Thank you.

3105
04:26:32,000 --> 04:26:33,000
Thank you.

3106
04:27:02,000 --> 04:27:03,000
Thank you.

3107
04:27:03,000 --> 04:27:04,000
Thank you.

3108
04:27:32,000 --> 04:27:33,000
Thank you.

3109
04:28:02,000 --> 04:28:03,000
Thank you.

3110
04:28:32,000 --> 04:28:33,000
Thank you.

3111
04:28:33,000 --> 04:28:34,000
Thank you.

3112
04:29:02,000 --> 04:29:03,000
Thank you.

3113
04:29:32,000 --> 04:29:33,000
Thank you.

3114
04:29:33,000 --> 04:29:34,000
Thank you.

3115
04:33:00,000 --> 04:33:24,000
Then go to ITD and say, okay, we know something about this stretch. This would be a good spot for signage and just do it as we go and that will get at least something starts.

3116
04:33:24,000 --> 04:33:36,000
Based on my vision, my findings, it seems to be from the top of the past down in the Bonneville County that were most of the accidents that I've seen have happened.

3117
04:33:36,000 --> 04:33:40,000
Not to say there aren't on this side, but it's much higher because we get down towards the river.

3118
04:33:40,000 --> 04:33:48,000
Oh, yeah, yeah. So I don't know, it's out of our area, it's still not out of ITDs.

3119
04:33:48,000 --> 04:33:49,000
Yeah, yeah.

3120
04:33:49,000 --> 04:33:56,000
We started going faster, too. Yeah, that lower there.

3121
04:33:56,000 --> 04:34:06,000
Okay, and then the only other, and it's not really an item, it's just a concept that in general,

3122
04:34:06,000 --> 04:34:22,000
the members of the committee would likely be keeping eyes out for anything on the horizon regarding wildlife that could either impact or benefit the county, and then we could do a framework for it and talk about it.

3123
04:34:22,000 --> 04:34:23,000
Sure.

3124
04:34:23,000 --> 04:34:25,000
That's reasonable, too.

3125
04:34:25,000 --> 04:34:33,000
Yeah, I think that, I mean, there's probably a lot of things we could do, but I think you're just getting started.

3126
04:34:33,000 --> 04:34:37,000
I think you take these and run with them and if something else comes up, bring it up to us.

3127
04:34:37,000 --> 04:34:39,000
Okay, okay, that sounds good.

3128
04:34:39,000 --> 04:34:42,000
What are we missing?

3129
04:34:42,000 --> 04:34:55,000
Kathy, you know, last meeting, we had an application from someone who wanted to move their belly in the loop into an area that was identified as a wildlife corridor,

3130
04:34:56,000 --> 04:35:03,000
and we postpone that decision, thinking it might be good to get advice from your view on that.

3131
04:35:03,000 --> 04:35:05,000
Oh, okay.

3132
04:35:05,000 --> 04:35:12,000
Can we utilize you up like a piece by case basis to look at stuff like that?

3133
04:35:12,000 --> 04:35:21,000
And you mean something that may be Joshua and Dan were a little uncertain about planning and to get another input on that?

3134
04:35:21,000 --> 04:35:35,000
Yeah, specifically, it was someone wanted to move the location of a structure which put it, I think, out of a wildlife habitat into wildlife corridors.

3135
04:35:35,000 --> 04:35:50,000
Am I remembering that correctly, commissioner powers in any way, if there was, if that, how, how if the house was moved there, how would it really affect the actual corridor or would it really affect it or would it not affect it?

3136
04:35:50,000 --> 04:35:57,000
And I think that's the kind of the question we all had, is this significant or is it not significant?

3137
04:35:57,000 --> 04:36:02,000
And I think commissioner powers, the same if you guys could lend a shed some light on that.

3138
04:36:02,000 --> 04:36:03,000
Yeah.

3139
04:36:03,000 --> 04:36:09,000
If it's here or if it's here, it's, does it really make a difference or is it okay?

3140
04:36:09,000 --> 04:36:10,000
Yeah.

3141
04:36:10,000 --> 04:36:22,000
And I think that's a perfectly good use of the committee's expertise in part because it gets back to even the habitat analysis policy.

3142
04:36:22,000 --> 04:36:26,000
Asking people to look at this, look at that, look at that.

3143
04:36:26,000 --> 04:36:34,000
Well, then if, if someone has a question there, we should be available to say, oh, well in this case,

3144
04:36:34,000 --> 04:36:37,000
yeah, we, it could do this or won't do that.

3145
04:36:37,000 --> 04:36:41,000
I mean, you could, maybe you could reach out to Joshua for the specifics.

3146
04:36:41,000 --> 04:36:42,000
Okay.

3147
04:36:42,000 --> 04:36:47,000
But we did postpone the decision because we wanted to find out more about that.

3148
04:36:47,000 --> 04:36:48,000
Okay.

3149
04:36:48,000 --> 04:36:53,000
Maybe I'll, I'll see if he can bring, because we're meeting on Wednesday and I can see if he could bring.

3150
04:36:53,000 --> 04:36:54,000
Okay.

3151
04:36:54,000 --> 04:36:58,000
I'm trying to remember the name of that project and I can't, but we can get that through.

3152
04:36:58,000 --> 04:36:59,000
That's it.

3153
04:36:59,000 --> 04:37:00,000
That's it.

3154
04:37:00,000 --> 04:37:02,000
That's it.

3155
04:37:02,000 --> 04:37:03,000
Okay.

3156
04:37:03,000 --> 04:37:04,000
I think you're right.

3157
04:37:04,000 --> 04:37:05,000
Yeah.

3158
04:37:05,000 --> 04:37:10,000
Great.

3159
04:37:10,000 --> 04:37:13,000
That, um, that good.

3160
04:37:13,000 --> 04:37:16,000
Looks like, looks like we have some things to work on.

3161
04:37:16,000 --> 04:37:17,000
No, I think.

3162
04:37:17,000 --> 04:37:18,000
Oh, yeah.

3163
04:37:18,000 --> 04:37:22,000
I think that's going to be good.

3164
04:37:22,000 --> 04:37:23,000
And yeah.

3165
04:37:23,000 --> 04:37:27,000
So, Ed, but when, when new things might come, I want to the radar.

3166
04:37:27,000 --> 04:37:30,000
We can, we'll, we can all talk about them again.

3167
04:37:30,000 --> 04:37:31,000
Things like that.

3168
04:37:31,000 --> 04:37:33,000
Do you hear your name?

3169
04:37:33,000 --> 04:37:34,000
Yes, he did.

3170
04:37:34,000 --> 04:37:35,000
I bet.

3171
04:37:35,000 --> 04:37:40,000
Reading to the corridors of the courthouse.

3172
04:37:40,000 --> 04:37:41,000
Yeah.

3173
04:37:41,000 --> 04:37:51,000
We just, we just mentioned Joshua that, in the last meeting, we had post or table or continued an item,

3174
04:37:51,000 --> 04:37:54,000
because we wanted to find out more about the actual corridor.

3175
04:37:54,000 --> 04:37:56,000
And I think that was the Badger Creek.

3176
04:37:56,000 --> 04:37:57,000
Right.

3177
04:37:57,000 --> 04:38:03,000
And we, we've directed them as a wildlife committee to maybe check with meet with you

3178
04:38:03,000 --> 04:38:11,000
and see if they could better identify the pros and cons of moving that place versus not.

3179
04:38:11,000 --> 04:38:12,000
So.

3180
04:38:12,000 --> 04:38:15,000
It's, I think it's still up in the air.

3181
04:38:15,000 --> 04:38:19,000
And, and then I was mentioning, we have a meeting Wednesday.

3182
04:38:19,000 --> 04:38:21,000
I don't know if you're planning to come.

3183
04:38:21,000 --> 04:38:24,000
And the, I think the agenda could incorporate that.

3184
04:38:24,000 --> 04:38:28,000
Because if the agenda was to go over everything we talked about here.

3185
04:38:28,000 --> 04:38:30,000
So.

3186
04:38:30,000 --> 04:38:36,000
It would probably need a quick look because I think we're probably going to hear that on the 22nd.

3187
04:38:36,000 --> 04:38:37,000
Oh, yeah.

3188
04:38:37,000 --> 04:38:38,000
Okay.

3189
04:38:38,000 --> 04:38:39,000
Okay.

3190
04:38:39,000 --> 04:38:40,000
Yeah.

3191
04:38:46,000 --> 04:38:47,000
Yeah.

3192
04:38:47,000 --> 04:38:51,000
I think it raises questions.

3193
04:38:51,000 --> 04:38:53,000
I'll see that whole.

3194
04:38:53,000 --> 04:38:54,000
Or.

3195
04:38:54,000 --> 04:38:56,000
Positive visual decisions.

3196
04:38:56,000 --> 04:39:00,000
We want to have this advisory.

3197
04:39:00,000 --> 04:39:01,000
To see.

3198
04:39:01,000 --> 04:39:02,000
So now.

3199
04:39:02,000 --> 04:39:03,000
It's.

3200
04:39:03,000 --> 04:39:04,000
I think.

3201
04:39:04,000 --> 04:39:05,000
I think.

3202
04:39:05,000 --> 04:39:06,000
Over.

3203
04:39:06,000 --> 04:39:07,000
All.

3204
04:39:07,000 --> 04:39:08,000
I think.

3205
04:39:08,000 --> 04:39:11,000
Even this to give us their recommendations.

3206
04:39:11,000 --> 04:39:12,000
I don't.

3207
04:39:12,000 --> 04:39:13,000
I think.

3208
04:39:13,000 --> 04:39:14,000
I think.

3209
04:39:14,000 --> 04:39:15,000
Okay.

3210
04:39:15,000 --> 04:39:16,000
But.

3211
04:39:16,000 --> 04:39:18,000
I think it's worth discussing.

3212
04:39:18,000 --> 04:39:19,000
Okay.

3213
04:39:19,000 --> 04:39:34,000
Well, I think.

3214
04:39:34,000 --> 04:39:35,000
I'm kind of in the middle.

3215
04:39:35,000 --> 04:39:40,000
I know we're commissioner James is is is probably more on the right of not wanting.

3216
04:39:40,000 --> 04:39:44,000
The wildlife community to be as.

3217
04:39:44,000 --> 04:39:45,000
I'm involved.

3218
04:39:45,000 --> 04:39:47,000
And I think that's a fair statement.

3219
04:39:47,000 --> 04:39:50,000
And commissioner powers is probably.

3220
04:39:50,000 --> 04:39:51,000
Really into it.

3221
04:39:51,000 --> 04:39:53,000
And I'm kind of on the fence.

3222
04:39:53,000 --> 04:39:55,000
But I do.

3223
04:39:55,000 --> 04:39:58,000
I think more information is always good.

3224
04:39:58,000 --> 04:40:01,000
It'll be our decision that for me having.

3225
04:40:01,000 --> 04:40:03,000
Having someone's.

3226
04:40:03,000 --> 04:40:09,000
Recommendations and and and thoughts that I may have not considered is always good.

3227
04:40:09,000 --> 04:40:11,000
And I.

3228
04:40:11,000 --> 04:40:14,000
I use it kind of meetings with my mind kind of made up that.

3229
04:40:14,000 --> 04:40:16,000
And I hear stuff and it.

3230
04:40:16,000 --> 04:40:18,000
I say, oh, didn't think about that.

3231
04:40:18,000 --> 04:40:22,000
And so that's why I think it's beneficial to me.

3232
04:40:22,000 --> 04:40:23,000
And if that.

3233
04:40:23,000 --> 04:40:25,000
If that means having to.

3234
04:40:25,000 --> 04:40:26,000
Change.

3235
04:40:26,000 --> 04:40:27,000
Something I.

3236
04:40:27,000 --> 04:40:28,000
I wouldn't.

3237
04:40:28,000 --> 04:40:29,000
Before.

3238
04:40:29,000 --> 04:40:32,000
Did I.

3239
04:40:32,000 --> 04:40:33,000
Did I.

3240
04:40:33,000 --> 04:40:35,000
Was that clear or was I.

3241
04:40:35,000 --> 04:40:37,000
Big.

3242
04:40:37,000 --> 04:40:38,000
Um.

3243
04:40:38,000 --> 04:40:39,000
I mean.

3244
04:40:39,000 --> 04:40:40,000
What I'm saying is for that.

3245
04:40:41,000 --> 04:40:44,000
It for them to give us a recommendation that we have to.

3246
04:40:44,000 --> 04:40:45,000
Change something.

3247
04:40:45,000 --> 04:40:46,000
I mean, I.

3248
04:40:46,000 --> 04:40:49,000
I still want to be the board to make the decision.

3249
04:40:49,000 --> 04:40:53,000
But I think their input as a committee would be.

3250
04:40:53,000 --> 04:40:57,000
Important and valuable.

3251
04:40:57,000 --> 04:40:58,000
Yeah.

3252
04:40:58,000 --> 04:41:01,000
Great.

3253
04:41:01,000 --> 04:41:06,000
Is that something then maybe to begin with a sounds like.

3254
04:41:06,000 --> 04:41:07,000
We'll get on our feet.

3255
04:41:07,000 --> 04:41:09,000
We may answer question here there.

3256
04:41:09,000 --> 04:41:12,000
Like when you have now.

3257
04:41:12,000 --> 04:41:14,000
And then see about.

3258
04:41:14,000 --> 04:41:22,000
We'll let Joshua explore the need to have the code read not code that the.

3259
04:41:22,000 --> 04:41:24,000
Where my mind policy.

3260
04:41:24,000 --> 04:41:25,000
Policy.

3261
04:41:25,000 --> 04:41:27,000
If we need to change that or.

3262
04:41:27,000 --> 04:41:28,000
And it.

3263
04:41:28,000 --> 04:41:29,000
So.

3264
04:41:29,000 --> 04:41:31,000
Okay.

3265
04:41:31,000 --> 04:41:33,000
So for now, we'll.

3266
04:41:33,000 --> 04:41:36,000
I won't really speak to that.

3267
04:41:36,000 --> 04:41:40,000
We would the committee except for this very one particular question.

3268
04:41:40,000 --> 04:41:41,000
There.

3269
04:41:41,000 --> 04:41:42,000
And then we can.

3270
04:41:42,000 --> 04:41:43,000
You can be.

3271
04:41:43,000 --> 04:41:44,000
Okay.

3272
04:41:44,000 --> 04:41:49,000
Um.

3273
04:41:49,000 --> 04:41:52,000
That was all I had.

3274
04:41:52,000 --> 04:41:53,000
Uh.

3275
04:41:53,000 --> 04:41:55,000
So unless I'm.

3276
04:41:55,000 --> 04:41:57,000
Listening something.

3277
04:41:57,000 --> 04:41:59,000
I think it gives us a lot of.

3278
04:41:59,000 --> 04:42:03,000
Very good and important things to start working on.

3279
04:42:04,000 --> 04:42:07,000
Anything else, committee?

3280
04:42:07,000 --> 04:42:08,000
First.

3281
04:42:08,000 --> 04:42:10,000
Thank you, Kathy.

3282
04:42:10,000 --> 04:42:11,000
Um, thank you.

3283
04:42:11,000 --> 04:42:12,000
Thank you.

3284
04:42:12,000 --> 04:42:13,000
Thank you, thank you.

3285
04:42:13,000 --> 04:42:17,000
So it's way appreciated.

3286
04:42:17,000 --> 04:42:18,000
Thanks for coming back at the I.

3287
04:42:18,000 --> 04:42:20,000
I get a apologize.

3288
04:42:20,000 --> 04:42:21,000
Well no, I'm sorry.

3289
04:42:21,000 --> 04:42:24,000
I did kind of get away from this real early in the morning.

3290
04:42:24,000 --> 04:42:25,000
Well, I did had to.

3291
04:42:25,000 --> 04:42:26,000
Yeah, no, I'm fine.

3292
04:42:26,000 --> 04:42:27,000
I was like a town ahead.

3293
04:42:27,000 --> 04:42:28,000
Another appointment and then.

3294
04:42:28,000 --> 04:42:30,000
So it worked out fine.

3295
04:42:30,000 --> 04:42:37,000
There you go. All right, well, thank you. All right, thank you. All right, if there's nothing we missed.

3296
04:42:37,000 --> 04:42:44,000
I think we got it. I would make a motion to adjourn. Second that.

3297
04:42:44,000 --> 04:42:48,000
Move the second of the favorite eye. Right.

3298
04:42:48,000 --> 04:42:54,000
Motion to adjourn is approved. Thanks for carrying the load there, Brad.

3299
04:42:54,000 --> 04:42:57,000
You should hope you feel better.

3300
04:42:57,000 --> 04:43:00,000
Yeah. Go to bed now.

3301
04:43:00,000 --> 04:43:02,000
Yeah.