1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:06,799 The regular meeting of the Texa County, Arkansas Planning Commission is called 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:11,120 to order. Agendas are available on the rails, so make so help yourself. We will 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:16,400 take the items as they are listed on the agenda. I will read each item and ask 4 00:00:13,679 --> 00:00:21,199 the person representing the request to come forward to the podium. Please state 5 00:00:19,039 --> 00:00:25,760 your name and address for the recording secretary. 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:30,960 Present any information you and make any comments you have about your request. be 7 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:36,239 prepared to respond to any questions that members of the planning commission 8 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:40,320 may have of you. Thank you. Item number one, roll call. 9 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:44,559 » Anita Picket, >> present. 10 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:48,640 » Jason Depri is absent. Uh Boots Thomas is absent. Dr. Hickerson 11 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,160 » here. >> Chris Owens 12 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,840 » here. >> Cory Mobs 13 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:55,920 » here. >> And Chairman Neil 14 00:00:53,440 --> 00:01:00,079 » here. We have a quorum and we can conduct business. 15 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:03,440 Second item, adoption of the summarized minutes. 16 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:10,880 Have each commissioner had an opportunity to review the the minutes. 17 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:14,799 If you need any more time, if all are satisfied, the chair would 18 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:18,640 entertain a motion. >> I move we approve the minutes as 19 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:23,280 presented. >> Have a motion and a second to approve 20 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:31,320 the minutes. All in favor? I. >> Any oppose? Minutes are passed. 21 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,320 Item number three, 22 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:40,320 ordinance revision, request by Texas County, Arkansas Police Department to 23 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:43,520 revise the draft truck stop ordinance to include a requirement for security 24 00:01:42,079 --> 00:01:47,840 cameras. >> Um, well, first of all, we're at a bit 25 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:51,759 of a disadvantage tonight because our internet has been out all day, so we 26 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:55,680 don't have our PowerPoint. So, I'm going to need you to rely on your packets. 27 00:01:54,626 --> 00:02:00,079 [laughter] Um, 28 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:04,079 TAP, as you remember, we passed, we passed the truck stop ordinance. It has 29 00:02:01,759 --> 00:02:09,039 not gone to the board of directors yet. Um, we're trying to push as much as we 30 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:14,800 can into next year because of the budget that they're fighting with right now. 31 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:20,720 Um, but TAPD has asked us to add a requirement for security cameras. 32 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:26,959 So, in the ordinance that we drafted, there is a 33 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:31,120 section entitled administrative requirements 34 00:02:28,879 --> 00:02:36,400 and that says all requests for a truck stop shall be accompanied by the 35 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:42,319 following items. A site plan, a traffic impact study, a water runoff and 36 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:46,000 drainage study, a lighting plan, and I have added in there a security camera 37 00:02:44,319 --> 00:02:48,959 plan. That make sense? 38 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:53,519 Yeah. And I think they'll have security cameras anyway, but tap this is 39 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,840 » better safe than sorry. >> Cover all the bases. 40 00:02:54,879 --> 00:03:01,120 » Yeah. >> All right. 41 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,480 » Is that all that's necessary to appeal that requirement? 42 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:08,440 » Mhm. >> Okay. All right. Any questions from 43 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,440 commissioners? 44 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:16,879 The chair would entertain a motion. >> I move that we approve the item number 45 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:21,120 three. Second. 46 00:03:18,239 --> 00:03:26,959 » We chair has a a motion and second to approve the ordinance revision for truck 47 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:29,040 stops. >> Roll call. 48 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,879 » Anita Picket. >> Yes. 49 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,319 » Dr. Hickerson, >> yes. 50 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,599 » Chris Owens, >> yes. 51 00:03:32,799 --> 00:03:35,519 » Cory Mobs, >> yes. 52 00:03:33,920 --> 00:03:40,599 » And Chairman Neil, >> yes. 53 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,599 » Item number three passes. 54 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:49,920 Okay. Item number four, reszoning request. 55 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:54,239 Request by coart that investments to reszone the property located at 3411 56 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:59,360 east from C3 open display commercial to a 57 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:05,680 planned unit development for the purpose of building duplexes. property is 58 00:04:02,239 --> 00:04:12,799 legally described as park southeast southwest section 4 township 16 south 59 00:04:09,599 --> 00:04:19,840 range 28 west of Miller County Arkansas containing 5 acres more or less water 60 00:04:16,639 --> 00:04:25,520 » okay this property on this map in your packet this property is located on East 61 00:04:22,639 --> 00:04:30,320 Street located east of old Blackman Ferry Road if you've ever driven down 62 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:37,759 there's an old abandoned building that says Bucks and ducks on it. That's the 63 00:04:33,280 --> 00:04:41,080 property that we're talking about. Um there is 64 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:50,320 find on my maps. >> Looks like there's two buildings on it 65 00:04:49,840 --> 00:04:53,199 already. >> Those two buildings are going to be 66 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:57,520 demolished. >> So they'll be demolishing those 67 00:04:54,720 --> 00:05:03,520 buildings. On your zoning map, the property is currently zoned C3. 68 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:08,000 It does butt up to R1 residential property, but they would be reszoning it 69 00:05:05,919 --> 00:05:14,240 to a PUD, which means that that's all they can build on there. Um, are the 70 00:05:11,039 --> 00:05:20,800 duplexes that they're requesting. There is a 6-in water line on the north 71 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:25,120 side of 71. They're pulling a permit from the Arkansas Department of 72 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:30,720 Transportation to bore under 71 to connect to that water line. They have 73 00:05:27,840 --> 00:05:36,800 had perk tests done by the Department of Health. And you should have in your 74 00:05:32,479 --> 00:05:43,000 packet a site plan that has the U septic fields on it. It's the one that has the 75 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:43,000 red squares on it. 76 00:05:43,280 --> 00:05:49,440 Now, they are required to submit a preliminary plat. They don't have that 77 00:05:47,199 --> 00:05:53,360 plat tonight. So tonight we're just approving the site plan. They'll have to 78 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:59,039 come back in January with the preliminary plat and they're looking at 79 00:05:56,479 --> 00:06:03,280 doing five duplexes. Um 80 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:08,960 I have had a phone call about inquiries about what they were going to put there, 81 00:06:04,639 --> 00:06:12,759 but I've not had anyone formally complain about it. 82 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:19,199 » Do we know the square footage on each duplex? Um, 83 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:23,919 » I'm trying to spin it and see. >> It's I don't know if I gave 84 00:06:22,479 --> 00:06:29,880 » Okay. >> And yes, calling the developer is here. 85 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,880 » Oh, 86 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:44,400 and the culde-sac is okay. >> The culde-sac they are the site plan you 87 00:06:42,479 --> 00:06:48,319 have has been revised. They sent it to me today. Of course, I could not print 88 00:06:45,759 --> 00:06:54,160 it because I have no internet. Um, they had to increase the culde-sac by 8 feet 89 00:06:51,840 --> 00:06:55,919 because you have to have 98 feet width for the fire department 90 00:06:55,199 --> 00:07:03,280 » fire trucks. >> I'm sorry, not 98, 96. So, that has been 91 00:06:59,599 --> 00:07:10,560 um revised on the new site plan. We had a meeting with all the uh utility 92 00:07:06,639 --> 00:07:15,280 companies, uh the fire department, um 93 00:07:12,639 --> 00:07:19,479 building official, and everybody went over the site plan there. 94 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:28,639 » Any uh how many notices went out to 95 00:07:27,919 --> 00:07:33,840 » 16? >> 16. And I ended up calling Terry today 96 00:07:31,919 --> 00:07:39,080 just to get his opinion since it's his board and he said this would be an asset 97 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,080 to the area. 98 00:07:39,199 --> 00:07:45,919 » Good deal. All right. Anything else? Sh. >> I don't have anything else. Like I said, 99 00:07:44,479 --> 00:07:49,360 the developers here. If you have any questions. 100 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:53,199 » All right. Is there if there's someone here that wants to speak for the 101 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:57,800 project, >> just come forward. State your name. 102 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,879 step up here. >> Yes, 103 00:07:59,759 --> 00:08:06,479 » that's great. >> Um, my name is Tracy Harris. Uh, I'm 104 00:08:03,599 --> 00:08:10,800 actually the my wife actually is now co-owner with the heirs of the property 105 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:16,400 immediately to the south. Uh, was formerly JW Lingo 3417 East Street. I 106 00:08:14,639 --> 00:08:20,639 don't think the family, the whole family is not opposed to certainly increasing 107 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:24,960 the area, proper development in the area, all of those things. We've just 108 00:08:23,199 --> 00:08:30,479 been through estate planning, just had an estate sale. I do know that the roads 109 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:33,680 across the street are present here and I have not conversed with them. I don't 110 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:37,680 know about their feelings and certainly want to let the developers know we're 111 00:08:35,839 --> 00:08:41,839 not here to like oppose or say hey absolutely not. We can't reszone it. The 112 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:45,920 only the only thing I would request because I don't feel like that the 113 00:08:43,680 --> 00:08:52,720 family feels we have sufficient information to say yes we're fully in 114 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:57,120 favor. Yes, we oppose it because we don't really have the ramifications. We 115 00:08:54,560 --> 00:09:01,360 had the house up for sale and we actually had a contract on the house uh 116 00:08:59,839 --> 00:09:05,360 that the individuals I think were concerned about. Uhoh, you know, now 117 00:09:03,519 --> 00:09:09,680 we're reszoning this. We don't know whether we need to go forward or not. It 118 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:13,920 certainly that aspect of the delay negatively affected the family. Of 119 00:09:11,519 --> 00:09:18,240 course, in that regard of what our potential future was, it has nothing to 120 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:22,800 do with being for or against the property. In fact, anything will look 121 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:26,080 better than a burned out hole of a house and what's developed there there. So, 122 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:30,080 we're not at all opposed to that the improvement of the property. I think 123 00:09:27,839 --> 00:09:33,839 it's just important to know what the future does hold for the residential 124 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:38,880 homes in the area. I'm very familiar with the PUD. I know that that is 125 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:42,399 restrictive to exactly what they are saying they're going to build. They have 126 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:45,519 to build whatever the PU So, that's not a problem. I don't I'm not concerned 127 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:49,519 about it being wide open on development and all that. I think my biggest concern 128 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:53,279 would be we don't have the internet up. I don't have a printed plat in front of 129 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:56,959 me as far as what actually that's going to look like or 130 00:09:54,880 --> 00:10:01,279 » I don't have a plat. I have >> But that's what I heard you say. And so 131 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:04,880 I'm wondering about the plat if I'm just wondering about that. I know if I'm 132 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:08,320 them, I want to get this approved right now for the first of the year. So I'm in 133 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:12,320 no way trying to be antagonistic and saying, "Hey, you guys got to wait 134 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:16,000 another month." But the thing that does concern me is don't have the platform. 135 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:20,160 And would love to have a conversation with you guys about kind of what that 136 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:25,839 looks like. be thrilled to do that. Um, but really I'm respectfully going to ask 137 00:10:23,519 --> 00:10:30,320 that you consider a yay or nay vote on it to approve it as 138 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:35,120 far as the reasoning until we have the plaid in front of us and can properly 139 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:40,480 respond to what that actually looks like on access and egress and since the 140 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:46,480 borderland absolutely specifically borders to the south the 4 acres that 141 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:52,880 you know is now in the estate. It would it would def defin definitely 142 00:10:49,839 --> 00:10:55,600 impact I guess the access egress of a a person that's buying a single family 143 00:10:54,320 --> 00:11:00,640 dwelling and what does all that look like? So I just respectfully ask not 144 00:10:57,839 --> 00:11:03,839 that you deny or you know approve it either way. I mean I don't know that 145 00:11:01,839 --> 00:11:08,399 we're even opposed to it. It's just that I don't think without the plat we have 146 00:11:05,680 --> 00:11:12,480 the information to say we can properly speak to 147 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:15,279 whether or not we would be opposed at the impact on the personal residence. So 148 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:20,760 anyway, >> thank you for your 149 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,760 back. 150 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:28,800 » They'll have to come back in January preliminary class and then [snorts] once 151 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:31,800 the board of directors approves the resim, 152 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:40,000 they have to bring back a final. Now if the final does not have any significant 153 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:44,720 changes to it, then we can just approve it in house. 154 00:11:41,519 --> 00:11:46,720 » But if it changes significantly [snorts] It has to come back, 155 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,720 » right? >> But they do they will have to come back 156 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:53,440 in January. >> Yeah. 157 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:56,440 » Either way, >> right? 158 00:11:56,959 --> 00:12:02,399 » Let me ask you this just maybe I just want to make sure I'm tracking with that 159 00:12:00,079 --> 00:12:07,760 information. So if if it's reszoned tonight though, that's set in motion. 160 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:11,519 Whereas that reszoning could wait until January for the plat. 161 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:14,639 It's not significantly going to hinder it. Exactly. 162 00:12:12,560 --> 00:12:17,760 » In other words, if we tabled it and didn't vote on the reasonzoning until 163 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:20,880 January, it wouldn't significantly hinder them from submitting the plat. I 164 00:12:19,519 --> 00:12:24,560 I don't want to delay them. That's not my purpose to oppose them. It's just 165 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:28,399 that it would be really helpful to us to get past the first of the year and see 166 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:31,360 the plat and see exactly how it impacts the property in the area. You know, 167 00:12:30,399 --> 00:12:37,600 we're for anything that's going to improve the area for sure. But 168 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:40,600 that's just our our >> problem 169 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:48,760 in January. >> Thank you. That's that was all my 170 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,760 request. Okay. 171 00:12:54,320 --> 00:13:01,680 » All right. Is there anyone else here to speak for the project? 172 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:04,480 If there was if there were some things that were to be said, would they would 173 00:13:03,839 --> 00:13:07,920 they be >> Will you step to the microphone 174 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:13,120 » and state your name and address? >> My name is Doug Roads. Um lot kind of on 175 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:15,760 the other side of the highway there. What's your address? 176 00:13:13,839 --> 00:13:17,600 » If there were some things >> state your address and state your 177 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:22,320 address. >> Oh, well I'm actually here with my 178 00:13:19,519 --> 00:13:26,880 mother who is there at 3500 East Street. >> Okay. Um would it be better to state any 179 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:30,399 things that when you sit since these decisions will be being made at the next 180 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:33,279 meeting would that be more appropriate to come and say it then? 181 00:13:31,519 --> 00:13:38,000 » Well, you feel free to share whatever you want to right now and 182 00:13:34,639 --> 00:13:43,440 » Okay. Um the concerns that I have is is just the inconsistency with the the 183 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:48,720 disharmony of the the two zonings. The the R1 being single family uh budded 184 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:52,639 right up next to the PED um you know effectively multif family. I just I 185 00:13:50,959 --> 00:13:57,600 don't want to make this a those people these people kind of thing, but um just 186 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:01,839 in essence, you know, the people that live there now or are interested in 187 00:14:00,079 --> 00:14:06,079 their property values selling in the future, just as just as Mr. Harris said, 188 00:14:04,079 --> 00:14:10,639 the sale being held up because of this possibility. Um the people in the area 189 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:17,440 there do have some concerns. I've spoken with several of them about the way that 190 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:23,120 may affect things. Um, now I'm a landlord and I have single family home 191 00:14:19,519 --> 00:14:28,560 and multif family as well, both. And so, like I say, there's nothing to say that 192 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:33,440 inherently this is worse than that. But there, you know, if you're the homeowner 193 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:37,279 and the resident, you're going to you're going to take care of a property better. 194 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:41,440 If you're a landlord and not living there, you're you have a financial 195 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:44,240 vested interest in taking care of the property, but you're still not going to 196 00:14:42,959 --> 00:14:48,639 take care of it as good as you do your house. And if you are not the owner and 197 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:53,760 you live there, you have a very temporary uh connection to that 198 00:14:51,279 --> 00:14:58,800 property. Um I have a great relationship with many of my tenants. Um it's not 199 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:04,320 about the it's not about the situation uh that but it just in general that has 200 00:15:01,839 --> 00:15:08,399 been my experience for 20 years as I've been doing it for 20 years. So I kind of 201 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:12,160 have onhand experience about this. I got a call just on the way here tonight. As 202 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:19,279 a matter of fact, one one of the tenants and one of my f multifamilies was 203 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:23,519 yelling at a tenant from two doors down and they were having a big fight about 204 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:27,920 whatever it was going on. got a third tenant involved and those kind of 205 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:31,440 things, you know, they don't happen because it's multif family, but when you 206 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:36,399 have people close together, they can have it. And so when people have been 207 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:41,360 living in a single family or one for years and years, you can see how this 208 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:45,680 would concern the neighborhood. I mean, I I hope you could at least see that 209 00:15:43,279 --> 00:15:48,480 possibility. Um, it's not about what it looks like now. Probably be beautiful 210 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:53,920 once they build it. I don't know what their plans are. Like I say, I'd like to 211 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:56,639 see it as well. Uh but you know if it changes hands, how will the next 212 00:15:55,360 --> 00:16:01,199 landlord take care of it? What's it going to look like in 20 years? Those 213 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:04,079 things will affect the neighborhood. If the wrong landlord comes in and doesn't 214 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:08,959 take care of the property, it will definitely affect those homes. And so 215 00:16:06,399 --> 00:16:13,199 there is a concern there. A resident owner will always take care of a 216 00:16:10,959 --> 00:16:17,519 property better than any any of the either two situations. So that's kind of 217 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:22,839 what I have to say. There may be some others as well, but thank you very much. 218 00:16:19,519 --> 00:16:22,839 » Thanks, sir. 219 00:16:24,639 --> 00:16:33,759 Do we have anyone else that'd like to come forward and express their opinion 220 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:38,959 for the property, for the project, the ANA, the developers? Anything you 221 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:43,800 want to share that might address anything that you've heard thus far? 222 00:16:45,759 --> 00:16:49,880 Nope. Not this. All right. 223 00:16:50,959 --> 00:17:00,800 I think concern also I think we should table it consider both January meeting 224 00:16:58,959 --> 00:17:03,800 you know resigning then make our decision 225 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:10,319 » all right motion have a motion to table it do we 226 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:13,360 have a second >> second 227 00:17:11,199 --> 00:17:18,959 » have a motion and second to table the the reszoning request to the January 228 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:21,600 meeting roll call >> I need Pick it. 229 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:24,240 » Yes. >> Dr. Hickerson. 230 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,679 » Chris Owens. >> Yes. 231 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,760 » Cory Mobs. >> Yes. 232 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,760 » And Chairman Neil. >> Yes. 233 00:17:31,120 --> 00:17:38,760 » Re the resulting request is Ben Table. >> Item number five. 234 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:46,400 » Ordinance revision. request by planning and zoning to approve an accessory 235 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:50,480 dwelling ordinance to reflect rules and regulations recently adopted by the 236 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:56,160 state of Arkansas. >> So 237 00:17:52,559 --> 00:18:02,240 in an attempt to solve the affordable housing issue, the state 238 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:09,039 senate or state legislature has passed a law that basically says we have to allow 239 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:12,559 it only it's only addressing accessory dwelling units. We're not talking about 240 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:16,640 garages. We're not talking about shops. We're not talking about workshops. We're 241 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:24,080 talking about what we've always called mother-in-law's quarters or um guest 242 00:18:20,799 --> 00:18:30,320 houses. And so the new law basically says that we have to allow at least one 243 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:35,039 by right on every piece of property that has a single family home. Now, we have 244 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:39,200 always required a conditional use permit. 245 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:45,200 Um, so this ordinance is simply to bring us 246 00:18:41,919 --> 00:18:50,000 into compliance with Arkansas's new law. Um, 247 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:55,280 and I've given you a copy of the actual law. 248 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:58,280 There's several things we cannot do. Um, 249 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:06,640 we cannot require that a member of their family live there. We cannot require any 250 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:10,320 kind of family relationship with the person that lives in the main house. We 251 00:19:08,559 --> 00:19:18,559 cannot require that the accessory dwelling unit match the house in design 252 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:23,360 if it's an unattached. So the accessory dwelling unit can be either external 253 00:19:21,679 --> 00:19:28,720 attached to it like an attached apartment or it can be internal. 254 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:33,600 » Internal. >> That's what it says. 255 00:19:30,799 --> 00:19:40,640 So if it is external or attached, it can't be more than 75% of the foot space 256 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:46,120 or the space of the primary home. We cannot require that it have its own 257 00:19:42,559 --> 00:19:46,120 utility meters. 258 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:55,440 » We cannot regulate it as a um rental unit. They can rent it out if 259 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:59,600 they want to, >> but it can be only up to a,000 square 260 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:04,559 feet. It has to be the lesser amount. So the This is a thousand, right? The way I 261 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:07,679 read it because I was mathing at my house before I came up here. 262 00:20:05,919 --> 00:20:15,360 » Probably it says that somewhere. >> Design number three. A 263 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:18,240 » not more than 75% or a,000 square feet. Whichever is less. 264 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:23,000 » Yes. Whichever is less. >> So you got a 2,000 square foot house. 265 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:38,159 That's 1500 square feet. So it still would be smaller. It would still only be 266 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:43,320 a thousand. >> We cannot require that it has additional 267 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,320 parking. 268 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:51,919 We cannot require that the single family dwelling or the accessory dwelling unit 269 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:56,159 is occupied by the owner. So, somebody could have a single family home and 270 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:59,280 they're renting it out and that's and they can still put an accessory dwelling 271 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:03,760 unit in their backyard >> and rent that one out too. 272 00:21:00,559 --> 00:21:05,840 » And rent that one out too. >> Um, 273 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:08,559 » what's the rule for parking on the street? 274 00:21:07,120 --> 00:21:13,159 » Do we have an ordinance for that? They are not required to have additional 275 00:21:10,159 --> 00:21:13,159 parking. 276 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:23,559 » What about a single family home with an accessory? 277 00:21:26,559 --> 00:21:35,120 » Make no mistake, we're not happy about this law. And another another hiccup 278 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:41,520 that we've run into with this law is this applies to historic districts, too. 279 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:46,559 So where we have typically been able to regulate 280 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:50,120 structures in historic districts, we now cannot do that. 281 00:21:55,039 --> 00:22:04,880 » Okay. What's an A1 zone? >> A1 is the mixed use zone. It's the only 282 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:09,840 zone. So several years ago, we realized that we had people with large pieces of 283 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:14,720 land that wanted to like build an additional home on it or build a shop on 284 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:19,360 it. And there was really no reason that they couldn't except it was our 285 00:22:16,159 --> 00:22:23,120 ordinance. So we created the A1 zone. It's the only or zone where you can 286 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,640 build a shop before you build your primary home. 287 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:29,280 » That's right. Okay. >> Yeah. And you can have two houses on 288 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:31,919 there. So the 289 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:37,919 » now we have >> so that's excluding A1 zone. So that's 290 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:42,720 the only caveat is that you can do this. >> Yeah. But if you build an accessory 291 00:22:40,559 --> 00:22:46,799 dwelling unit in A1 and you have no primary house there then basically your 292 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:50,000 accessory dwelling unit is your primary house. 293 00:22:47,919 --> 00:22:52,640 » Now we have confirmed that you cannot use an RV or a single 294 00:22:52,159 --> 00:22:56,000 » trailer >> single single wide trailer as an 295 00:22:54,480 --> 00:23:00,640 accessory dwelling unit. We have confirmed that. We have put it in here 296 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:06,080 that it cannot be in the side yard or the front yard. So, it has to be behind 297 00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:08,000 the rear build line, which is how far back? 298 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:11,945 » Depends on the zone. >> Okay. 299 00:23:09,925 --> 00:23:11,945 [snorts] 300 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:18,799 And I mean, I'm happy if y'all want to read over this and table it and read 301 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:23,280 over it if you haven't had a chance to read over it. We're supposed to have it 302 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:26,880 enacted by January the 1st. We're not going to have that done anyway because 303 00:23:25,039 --> 00:23:32,400 it won't go to the board until the first meeting in January. So, if you want to 304 00:23:29,679 --> 00:23:37,280 table it till you have chance to look over it, that's up to you. 305 00:23:35,471 --> 00:23:44,200 [snorts] I mean, it's not it's not something anyone's overly happy about. 306 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:44,200 But it is the state law. 307 00:23:45,039 --> 00:23:49,919 » No, there's not anything we can do about it. 308 00:23:47,679 --> 00:23:52,720 » What does it mean by the covenants? The ordinance does not prohibit restrictive 309 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:57,039 covenants. >> So if you have a homeowners association 310 00:23:55,200 --> 00:24:00,799 and they have a covenant that says you cannot have 311 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:03,200 » guest houses, this doesn't preclude that. 312 00:24:02,799 --> 00:24:09,679 » Okay? >> So you can if if two private parties 313 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:13,520 » if your homeowners association and the homeowner if they have a covenant that 314 00:24:11,919 --> 00:24:18,320 says you cannot have an accessory dwelling unit in your backyard, then 315 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:23,200 then you can't. This doesn't preclude a covenant. HOA stand. 316 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:27,440 » We can't require a covenant. We can't we can't say you have to have a covenant. 317 00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:32,000 But if the homeowners association on their own goes in with their homeowners 318 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:35,400 and they agree to that, this doesn't preclude that. 319 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:52,120 » This law been challenged by anybody. I have not seen that and I read all my 320 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:52,120 municipal league notices. 321 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:57,520 » This came in in effect for the last legislative session. 322 00:24:55,600 --> 00:25:01,987 » Yes, >> several challenged. Yeah, 323 00:24:59,967 --> 00:25:01,987 [clears throat] 324 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:09,200 there are there are several that I'm working on that we need to come into 325 00:25:07,039 --> 00:25:13,120 compliance with, but I'm trying not to bombard everybody with 600 ordinance 326 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:17,360 changes at once. >> But at the present time, we have to go 327 00:25:16,559 --> 00:25:22,799 by the state law. >> We have to go by the state law. I mean, 328 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:26,960 the rule is if ours is in conflict with the state law, we have to go by the 329 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:31,520 state law. But in the ordinance it says we have 330 00:25:28,559 --> 00:25:34,480 till January the 1. Um somewhere in here 331 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:37,480 » it looks like they introduced it in February. 332 00:25:53,760 --> 00:26:03,200 » That's the Anyone else? just have a question. If we say, 333 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:06,080 » you know, go ahead and act on it. We don't I don't see a choice if it's a 334 00:26:05,039 --> 00:26:09,600 state law. >> We don't have a choice. 335 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:13,600 » But I want y'all to feel comfortable that you've read it. I want y'all to 336 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:17,679 feel comfortable that you've read both of them. And if you haven't read it, I 337 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:21,039 mean, like I said, it's not going to be enacted by January the 1st anyway 338 00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:27,360 because it's not going to The soonest I can get it to the board is the 5th. And 339 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,360 it will probably actually be the 340 00:26:27,919 --> 00:26:32,960 19th because I think they're slammed on the 341 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,799 fifth already. >> This was off [clears throat] northern 342 00:26:34,159 --> 00:26:40,720 Arkansas. >> Now, you do we do know that if they 343 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:44,559 build something, it does still have it has to meet all the codes. So, they 344 00:26:43,039 --> 00:26:47,279 can't just throw something back there. They can't throw small building back 345 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:51,120 there or something like that. It's got to meet all the codes. 346 00:26:49,039 --> 00:26:55,039 » So, if they build if they build an accessory dwelling unit, it still has to 347 00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:58,080 meet all of our current codes. And it looked like it had to say like it had to 348 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:02,880 have cooking, it had to have restroom, it had to have like all the things. It 349 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:05,360 had to be completely independent. >> But the 350 00:27:03,679 --> 00:27:08,480 » but they're not required to have their own utility meters, 351 00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:11,919 » right? So you would you could potentially share utilities with the 352 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:15,360 main homeowner's house. >> Yes. 353 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:18,559 » But that's in the state law, right? That's specifically called out the state 354 00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:23,200 law. >> My thoughts are I don't know how to word 355 00:27:20,799 --> 00:27:26,080 it, but I think we need to adopt whatever it is. 356 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:34,720 goes into effect. It'll be honestly with these things it's 357 00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:39,520 going to be a work in progress as everybody works out the kinks and 358 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:46,159 figures out exactly what I mean Roger called one of our state representatives 359 00:27:41,279 --> 00:27:51,039 and he provided no input into so um you know it's gonna it's going to 360 00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:58,120 be a work in progress as everybody figures out what they really intended to 361 00:27:52,799 --> 00:27:58,120 do but we do need to enact it 362 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:05,360 » yeah I was googling and reading all the things at the house and mapping and unit 363 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:12,000 motion. >> Have a chair. Chair has a motion to 364 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:15,200 approve the planning and zoning accessory dwelling ordinance. Do I have 365 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:19,360 a second? >> Have a second. Roll call. 366 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,720 » Anita Picket. >> Yes. 367 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,159 » Dr. Hickerson, >> yes. 368 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,600 » Chris Owens, >> yes. 369 00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:25,120 » Cory Mobs, >> yes. 370 00:28:24,159 --> 00:28:30,720 » Chairman Neil, >> yes. 371 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,720 » Ordinance revision passes. 372 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:38,799 Item [clears throat] number six, entertainment district revisions. 373 00:28:35,919 --> 00:28:43,440 Request by city manager and Tex County, Arkansas Police Department to enact 374 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:51,080 revisions to the entertainment district for the sake of public safety or two. 375 00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:51,080 » Okay. [clears throat] So, 376 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:57,840 we um had a workshop, a joint workshop with the board of directors on November 377 00:28:55,760 --> 00:29:03,279 the 12th. I think most of y'all were there. Um, it was heavily attended by 378 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:07,679 the downtown business owners. And while there was much discussion back 379 00:29:05,279 --> 00:29:13,279 and forth, in the end, we did agree on three things that we felt needed to be 380 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:18,640 changed in the entertainment um, district ordinance. Um, and those are 381 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:22,960 the only three things that I have added to this ordinance. Actually, I've added 382 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:30,080 four. The other one is administrative. But um the three things were banning the 383 00:29:27,279 --> 00:29:35,200 consumption of alcohol purchased outside the entertainment district because 384 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:40,320 beforehand we had people bringing in their own alcohol. Businesses were 385 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:47,360 losing money. Um so banning the consumption of alcohol purchased outside 386 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:50,880 the entertainment district. So, if Bobby has been fishing and he has a 387 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:56,080 cooler full of beer in the back of his truck and he's not drinking it, that's 388 00:29:53,200 --> 00:30:02,159 fine. But you can't bring in alcohol from outside and drink it. The second 389 00:29:59,279 --> 00:30:06,880 thing was to remove the block containing the Rock liquor store. remove that block 390 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:11,600 from the entertainment district because it was in the entertainment district 391 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:14,960 which meant you could buy alcohol there and still be buying it in the 392 00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:21,679 entertainment district and walk out the door and drink it. So to remove that 393 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:27,200 block from the entertainment district >> the third thing was to restrict the 394 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:33,039 hours for open drinking from 11:00 a.m. to 12:00 a.m. 11:00 a.m. to midnight. It 395 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:36,960 was previously two o'clock in the morning. 396 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:41,360 And the only other thing we added um which Boots brought up is we're supposed 397 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:46,799 to review the entertainment district every year as needed, but no one had the 398 00:30:44,159 --> 00:30:51,600 responsibility of doing that. So we have put that responsibility on my position 399 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:55,440 to make sure that it gets reviewed every six months. 400 00:30:53,279 --> 00:31:01,360 » Every six months instead of every year. >> Well, every year. Right now we're 401 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:06,240 reviewing it in January again. So um those are the only three changes that I 402 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:10,720 have put in there. Those are the three that we agreed on at that workshop. 403 00:31:09,279 --> 00:31:16,559 Okay. >> Um 404 00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:22,679 this is in my opinion a starting place. Um we will review that again in January 405 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,679 and see where we are. 406 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,960 » Okay. Any other questions? 407 00:31:32,559 --> 00:31:38,120 Yes. Do we have anybody that wants to make a comment? Come forward. 408 00:31:39,919 --> 00:31:47,919 » Oh, yeah. >> Colin 6211 Tennessee Road. Um, we 409 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:53,679 are a property owner. Um, within that block of the Rock House, I think is 410 00:31:51,679 --> 00:32:00,320 where that is. Uh, we have we own a corner lot across from Commercial Bank. 411 00:31:56,799 --> 00:32:05,120 Um, We we have that currently for sale right now. Um if we take that out of the 412 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:10,799 entertainment district, that may hurt the sale possibly of that. So I don't 413 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:18,200 know if there's a way to restrict that to just that lo that lot or if there's a 414 00:32:13,919 --> 00:32:18,200 different way to divide that up. 415 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:26,120 » And we have no internet >> and we have no internet to look at the 416 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,120 flat. No. 417 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:31,679 » Do you have somebody trying to buy it right now that wants to add something? 418 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:36,320 » We're in We're in negotiations, but I don't know how how much further that's 419 00:32:33,039 --> 00:32:40,399 going to go um with their um with their plans. They would like to be able to 420 00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:42,640 utilize that. Um >> they want to do entertainment district 421 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:49,399 things. >> Correct. So, that's just something to 422 00:32:46,399 --> 00:32:49,399 consider. 423 00:32:52,799 --> 00:33:02,200 Well, our problem I mean our problem with that block is liquor house liquor 424 00:32:57,519 --> 00:33:02,200 is in that block. And 425 00:33:02,399 --> 00:33:07,880 » even if you ban >> even if you ban 426 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:13,880 consumption of alcohol outside 427 00:33:15,519 --> 00:33:19,240 you can buy it there. 428 00:33:20,399 --> 00:33:25,200 not solving the problem. It's just a matter of where you're buying the 429 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:29,919 liquor. >> Did they see an uptick? I don't remember 430 00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:31,760 them talking at that workshop. >> Oh, okay. That's why I didn't hear 431 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:36,480 something. >> Okay. 432 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:42,080 » The problem is being able to buy at liquor and walk out the door and drink 433 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:44,880 it rather than buying it. >> Okay. 434 00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:48,080 » And those businesses are saying that it is impacting 435 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:53,159 » it is impacting people in their own. >> Okay. because they're buying it or 436 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,159 bringing it in. 437 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:12,560 » It is. >> It's on the corner of Wood Street and 438 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:16,000 East Fourth Street. >> East Fourth. 439 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:20,800 » Okay. Velvet pulled it up on her phone and that is a platted subdivision. So, 440 00:34:18,720 --> 00:34:23,520 it's possible we can just take out the lot that Rock 441 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:29,200 » Okay, >> we can take it out by legal description. 442 00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:32,720 Maybe a fraction of a lot, but >> it may be a fraction of a lot. I know 443 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:37,440 the one that he's talking about is like the south 1.9 ft of a lot and some other 444 00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:41,720 lots, but it should be fairly easy to revise the ordinance to 445 00:34:41,919 --> 00:34:52,480 account for just the rock house liquor. >> Yeah, 446 00:34:48,240 --> 00:34:55,800 if you want to do that or or you can pass it, 447 00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,800 » we can verbally say that. >> Yeah. Okay. 448 00:34:59,119 --> 00:35:03,760 » That's more restrictive than what >> then less restrictive. We can do more. 449 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,839 We can't do less. >> Okay. 450 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:10,640 » Thank you. >> That be that'd be satisfactory. 451 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:15,839 » Yes. >> Chair would entertain a motion. 452 00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:20,720 » I move we approve the revisions to the entertainment district for the sake of 453 00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:26,240 public safety editing and only removing Rockhouse liquor from 454 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:29,720 the entertainment district. We have a second 455 00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:35,359 » roll call. >> Anita Picket. 456 00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:38,800 » Yes. >> Uh Dr. Hickerson, 457 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,079 » Chris Owens, >> yes. 458 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,920 » Cory Mobs, >> yes. 459 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:50,320 » And Chairman Ne. >> Yes. The entertainment uh district 460 00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:57,119 revisions with the edit is approved. >> All right. 461 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:57,119 Last comments. Anything? 462 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,320 You have children or grandchildren? 463 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:09,520 » Children parks department's breakfast with Santa 464 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:12,520 from 9 to noon. Santa 465 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,040 All right. 466 00:36:28,079 --> 00:36:34,240 » All right. Chair would entertain a motion to adjurnn. 467 00:36:31,119 --> 00:36:38,920 » I move we adjourn. >> All right. All in favor? 468 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,920 » I