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I could have turned this over to Mr. Cowell to go through our work agenda.

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Thank you. Mayor council, first, if there are any regular agenda items that you would all like us

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to provide additional information as we're going through the work session, I'd be happy to hear what those may be.

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I just would have just a question on the consent agenda. During the purchasing, I just want to look through the list of

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purchasing trucks. Let's see that we don't have a lot of people bidding. Things are maybe one.

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I'm just curious how the bidding process really works and how people understand it and know when it goes out.

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Sure, and if you want to pull it out, and we're going to have Trent Davis, our purchasing agent, come up and talk about that.

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And certainly Glenn this year as well. They can talk specifically about the trucks, so we can do it in one of those.

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Just as an infant. It's a good informational topic. So we'll do that one.

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Sure. Okay, thank you.

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If there are no other items, make sure I don't skip anything.

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The next item deals with your CIP, and I'm going to actually have to move down there for this item, so a couple of seconds.

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And I apologize, because I have a cold, someone's trying not to sneeze too many times as we go through this, so.

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Just stay down there. Would you stay down there for the rest of the day?

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That's why I moved down here, so I wouldn't spread the cold, so.

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Yeah, which hat do I have on right now? That's right.

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I'm going to walk you through this presentation and then hopefully save some time for you to be able to ask questions.

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At your place, you have a couple of different documents, and it's a fairly thick packet of capital information, which I think on top of it is a spreadsheet that's going to green and yellow.

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That's that's part of what we're talking about.

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And what we're doing is, of course, a couple of meetings ago, we had a discussion with you all about the first year of the five year CIP,

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specifically the proposition projects, the bond funded projects.

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And today, what we're going to do is go through actually the full five year plan.

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So what you have in front of you is the draft spreadsheet for the full five years for the CIP.

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And you'll see, and I'll cover this in a minute, but you'll see it represents about $418 million worth of investments over the next five years.

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And we'll go through those in detail as we progress through this.

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The other items that you have, the big thick packet, those are actually the individual project sheets.

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So all of the projects that are on that spreadsheet have a similar information sheet that provides a little bit more information about each of those projects.

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And certainly Floyd Hartman as well as other members of the staff can delve in deeper on anyone of those that you might want to talk about as we go through.

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And just as a reminder, the process that we've been using throughout the development of the CIP is one that starts with really citizen engagement.

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And we went through that all through the last year as well as you were, you're identified priorities.

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Those are most represented through the blueprint frame of real, but certainly there are other means that we've used to try to actually gain it those priorities as well.

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Additionally, many of those priorities will make their way into a full blown strategic plan, taking the blueprint and kind of making it a little more robust.

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Many of those priorities should then make it into either master plans for like water and wastewater.

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We currently have a wastewater master plan and we're getting ready to start a water master plan.

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We're a neighborhood district corridor plans and of course, you all just recently adopted the North Heights neighborhood plan or assessments and evaluations.

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And we've done a few of those. So for example, last year we completed an evaluation of a component of the solid waste operations for efficiency.

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And you all know one of the ones we'll be doing this year, one of the assessments is of our pavement quality.

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So all of those kind of take your priorities and what we've heard from you and from the citizens, work them through those plans and documents.

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And that ultimately, the end comes out in either your operating budget or your capital budget for four expenditures. So that's the model, if you will, that we've been using and kind of attached to that is work that Floyd has been doing, which will enhance our ability to deliver on those projects.

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And we touched on that lightly last time about some of the steps we're taking to shorten the time it takes for us to secure designers and surveyors and engineers, those types of things.

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As we go through the project, and I'll talk on that again as we move through. But that essentially is the model that we've been using to get us to this point.

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And of course, it's a continually evolving model and we'll never actually end. We'll continue to add to those different products as we proceed through.

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I want to sort of highlight what the, you know, you heard me throughout that number sort of nonchalantly the $418 million.

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And we're going to talk about that in a few minutes. But I want to show you actually what the city has spent over the last five years on capital or community investment or capital improvements.

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Counting this year, this budget year 2016, 2017, the city has spent just a little over 300 million over the past five years or the four years plus what we anticipate spending this year.

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And the graphic that you have in front of you sort of lays out where that funding comes from or came from.

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And you'll see an adjustment. And this is the adjustment we've been talking about as we've worked through the last year in terms of budget and those types of things.

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And in particular, you want to pay attention to the dark blue and the light blue. And what you'll see is a gradual shift as we move forward.

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As a matter of fact, you can see it in the 2016, 2017, if you recall, as we continually have trimmed away at our operating budget.

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That dark blue is really our left over revenue from year to year that we relied on for a lot of pays you go type projects.

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And then, of course, the light blue are our debt proceeds. And so this, of course, this first year shows the debt proceeds that were approved by the voters and corporate into this.

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And I'll talk more about that as well. You'll see that again even more dramatically when we move into the next five years.

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Because again, we're not relying. We're unable to rely on that surplus cash to pay for most of the improvements that we're going to talk about.

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And we're relying predominantly on other vehicles that to get us through that.

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Those funding sources are generally include voter authorized general obligation debt.

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They also will include that that light blue bar that you just also includes revenue bonds. And those are associated with our utility rates.

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So when we actually increase utility rates for water and wastewater, we may at times borrow money from TWDB.

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We may actually issue bonds associated with that.

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And others, and we likely will be doing that. We'll be proposing to do more of that with drainage. And again, I'll talk about that in just a few moments.

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Certificates of obligation, tax notes, tax notes. We've used occasionally. And those are for where we try to match the debt up with the life expectancy of the asset that we're purchasing.

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So if you're purchasing a vehicle that has a seven year asset, you're not going to obviously enter into 20 year debt on the tax notes.

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Allow us to do that in a different way. And then, of course, we still do pay as you go.

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There's cash from tax revenues. That's really that surplus cash that we may have left over. There are rate revenues.

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So there's a certain amount of our rate that we currently collect for utilities and drainage that we use to pay for ongoing operating expenses.

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But there's also a certain amount of that that we continue to apply to capital projects.

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There are also fee revenues. You'll recall we passed, you all passed recently. A technology fee that will be added to the permits, which help us offset some of the ongoing operating expenses with software that we're actually putting in place for a development review process.

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There are internal service charges. So these are things like fleet. So when we purchase those heavy trucks, the departments that they go to pay an annual lease payment for that.

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That lease payment allows those vehicles to be maintained. And we build up a surplus. And on a surplus, we build up an account if you will with those that allows us to replace them.

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So that we don't take those hits every couple of few years. We actually budget for that throughout the year.

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And then grants. And most of our grants only come in the form of grants that are coming through our community development program, our airport program, or our transit program.

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There are very, very few capital kinds of grants that come for anything other than that any longer. You all know we've competed a couple times for like the tiger grants.

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Those are few and far between. There just aren't that many of those any longer. You really can't rely on those to fund that much in the way a capital investments.

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It will be nice if we're able to do that and we'll continue to pursue those. But historically those have really fallen off.

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On the five years and now this is taking, whereas I showed you before kind of historical the graph that was the funding source. This is now taking you from the approved budget year this year and moving you forward through the five years of the proposed capital.

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So obviously you see the debt portion changed dramatically from what was in the past five years and you see that general fund portion that cash on hand go down to almost almost nothing.

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We are, but for, and I'll talk again about this as we go through but we're anticipating very little surplus dollars to be available as we go through this five years CIP.

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If obviously we actually get more surplus will be able to use that and rely less on some of these other tools but we're not, we're not budging or we're not planning for that for that purpose.

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Inside that debt line what's inside there again is the voter approved or voter authorized general obligation bonds.

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So the hundred and ten million dollars across the the four five years is included in that in those and then as we discussed in budget.

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The other thing that is included in that is the is debt issued to tied to our project rate increases on water and wastewater and drainage.

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If you recall you implemented the first of what is anticipated to be five utility rate increases for water and wastewater and then next year of course we're scheduled to begin the same four year roll out of drainage fee increases and those rates will use the proceeds from those rates to actually issue debt to be able to do the projects that are identified in the in the capital plan.

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And again I'm going to come back and talk about that in just a few moments but this kind of shows you how that's to roll out over those five years.

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We have attempted to ensure we have attempted to try to keep both the rate increases and the tax increases associated with the debt issue and its level.

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That's one of your policies is that we try to do that rather than an effect try to implement it all at one time.

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And so that's why you'll see and we saw this at the last update you'll see a piece of debt issued for year one and then you'll see another piece of debt issued for year two and the rate will adjust and so on.

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And frankly there's a pragmatic component to that as well which is our ability to actually complete those projects we need really that full five to seven years to be able to complete these projects it would be completely and practical to try to do them all in one year.

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On the expenditure side so that that slide was where's the money coming from to actually be able to do the investments that are proposed this actually lays out where is the money going.

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So when you look at this graphic on the right hand side and you can follow down if you can't quite make out all the colors.

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The bars are arranged in the way in which the text is arranged so you just follow your way down the text so the first the first line is IT which is almost hidden in some of those and there's a reason for that because there's not a lot of money dedicated to that because again.

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That was one of the ballot propositions that did not pass so there's not a great deal of funding that's being able to be allocated to that.

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All the way down to to the very bottom ones which actually get into some of the other categories that are listed in there.

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The five or total again as I mentioned is a $418 million expenditure and again this includes funds that will come from all of those sources that I spoke to as we went through and it includes all the projects that we've we've talked about previously.

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I will say I do want to say that the the CIP that we prepared is physically constrained but it's constrained with certain assumptions in place so what you will not see in the past what you might have seen in our capital program is.

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We would have said okay this budget year we can afford twelve million dollars and so we put twelve million dollars in the budget next year we put a hundred eighty million dollars.

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Well of course we're not going to have a hundred eighty million dollars we just put it in there as kind of a placeholder.

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You will not see that in this case the dollars the projects and the dollars that are here either can be covered by funds that we already have in place.

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Again the general obligation bonds are an example that we know we're going to have that hundred and ten million dollars available.

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So they're covered by that or they're covered by grants that we anticipate in receiving transit grants airport grants those types of things which roughly will remain the same as what we currently have.

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Or and this is the these are where those assumptions come in or they're funded by continuation of those rating creases that we had talked about at budget.

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And and again obviously if those rates are not increased then the amount of projects we can do declined dramatically as we move as we move forward with the project.

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And then the last assumption that's tied to that is we assume no more than about one point nine million dollars of new one time dollars being made available every year.

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But one point two million of that is already dedicated by your policy to go to street overlays so there's really only about five to seven hundred thousand dollars anticipated and program in here of new one time money again.

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We may have a great year in sales tax and that number goes up but we're not planning on that because based on the trends we've seen that's not likely to occur.

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The same would be true on the utility side we may have a year in which we sell a lot of water and so the money that becomes available from those sales or dollars on cash on hand that we can use to fund some of these utility projects that would reduce the amount of debt that we actually need to issue through those.

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That's one of the advantages.

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If I can just jump clarify one thing so yeah before you said if we get more surplus and that and the assumption that is greater sales tax increase.

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And then you just said if for example we sell more water so if we have greater sales tax increase that goes to the bottom line general fund.

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But if we sell more water that goes directly to utilities.

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Correct it goes into our enterprise funds so that would be used for that and and that's how we've used that surplus in the past if we had a surplus year we would use it to make advances on our capital program.

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Just because you can't rely on on it being there in the future so you don't want to put it into your operating budget on utility side.

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Same is true really on the general fund side until you start seeing a trend of that.

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So we try to spend those on one time, one time.

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And the reason I just asked that is because I talked to a lot of people who don't understand that we really have restrictions on the money that we spend in different areas.

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Same thing goes with, even down to the red light cameras, for example.

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So I just, you know, so I thank you for kind of clarifying that. So we can understand if we have a buffer or something, it is dedicated.

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You'll see, you'll see other things kind of, you won't see them, but they're embedded in those numbers as well.

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The red light cameras are good example. There are, there's revenue that come off the red light cameras that can be used for a very specific function in terms of like traffic improvements for example.

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So those dollars are included in these projections of dollars that we have available. It's not all just general fund cash that we have available.

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Bob on that, of course, I was looking at the graph for 1819 and 2021. Big spike both years in drainage utility.

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Again, are you just trying to wait till that money is collected and you can spend it because you've got big projects both here.

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Well, we anticipate what this program lays out is in those years.

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Remember that what we talked about in the budget is next year with the approval of the budget will be seeking an increase in the drainage rate for the first of four years.

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We'll collect it that probably that first year, then you'll see actually us coming forward to issue debt based off of that increase.

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So those spikes in those two years anticipate actually issuing debt covered by that new rate increase.

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You have a large list of projects to be covered by those.

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And if you remember that's partly because when we talked about what that drainage fee is so small, if you will.

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That when you raise it by a percent or two, it doesn't generate a tremendous amount of of cash when you're talking about projects that are one to two million dollars.

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And so we're going to have to use that to service debt as we go forward, which we've done in the past week.

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Remember the the drainage utility by actually issuing some debt so we could do projects like Martin Road Lake and a couple of the other ones.

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We just can't do those based on cash on hand, but that's why you see that spike.

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Okay. Now again, if the rate increase doesn't happen, those spikes don't happen.

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Then you end up having that.

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That's right, you end up having 1.9 million dollars each year to do projects that again, you know, we've used this example that basically a mile of new arterial.

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Takes about a million two in drainage improvements.

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So I mean that gives you a sense of what what the magnitude is of those projects as we as we move forward.

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Okay, you've got 11 million one, you're in 10 million and another year or so.

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Yeah, and those are so we can we anticipate we try to program this to align with either.

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Projects that we know have already gone through the approval process, private development projects that we are by ordinance responsible for providing those and trying to sync that up.

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Timing wise or that we know there's some major improvement that we're going to need to put in place either for development and or to replace something that needs replacement.

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The other advantage, this is also one of the advantages of this document ultimately is a, I mean it's a living document.

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Only really the first year is an effect set in stone because that's what you've approved in your budget and you'll do that each year.

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So each year you'll come back, look at the five year plan, refine the first year, adopt it and add another a new five year, a new fifth year.

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And you'll keep you keep that rolling now what you'll see in this upcoming budget year is you will see dramatically a different number in your new fifth year because of course in your new fifth year.

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You don't have we don't anticipate new deductions is tied with any voter authorization or rate increases, so you'll actually see that.

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Drop considerably as you move into that new fifth year going out as you move forward.

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I want to touch just briefly on impact on the operating budget when we went through the wise investments discussion prior to the election.

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You'll remember that we we highlighted kind of what we anticipated that there might be there will be an impact on the operating budget as these investments are made.

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In some cases the investments actually lower our operating costs, which is a good thing.

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So for example, if you take a pipe that is leaking constantly and requiring us to constantly go in and work on it.

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And you replace it with a new pipe, we actually lower the O&M costs associated with that pipe, same as true with a street or parking lot or whatever it may be.

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And those instances what we'll do is we'll reprogram any savings we have with that to go into those areas that we still have have needs.

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You'll have some of you have been around when we talked about the two inch cast iron line pipes that we're trying to replace for water and we said we went from the 100 year plan to the 60 year plan at some point.

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So obviously if we actually save manpower and equipment by making some of these investments will move them to those kinds of areas.

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However, some of the most of these investments are new, so it's an extension of a street, it's an extension of a storm sewer, it's the construction of a new parking lot or a new building.

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Those obviously will have new expenses, some of them are hard costs, you build a new building, it has new electric charges.

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Some of them are soft costs in that over time that building will need to be repaired or replaced or what have you are that parking lot or any of those.

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Many of the cases these are incremental and cumulative, so by that what I mean is you build a mile of our material and that may be 30,000 dollars of new labor costs to maintain that out into the future.

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30,000 dollars worth of equipment and 30,000 dollars worth of material for example.

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Well it would make any sense you just built that you're not going to budget 90,000 dollars for that new extension.

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You get five years into it and you've got enough of those you probably do need to start looking at doing need to start adding forces doing need to start buying more equipment.

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Those kinds of things as you progress forward.

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So most of them fall into that category.

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There are a few exceptions that that's not the case and the most notable is when we build fire station number five that project includes the addition of a new ladder company.

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So that is a that is basically a non optional if you will in the sense that you have to obviously increase the operating budget if you're going to make that investment in personnel is predominately what it is.

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As we go forward now working with the chief you'll see in the five year CIP we've pushed that investment out to really to year four and your five and that gives the council the opportunity to start working their way up to up to that expenditure.

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The one thing I'll say is if those cumulative and kind of incremental purchases aren't made are the expansions of the operating budget are not made.

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Typically what will happen is you'll see a reduction in level of service across the whole system.

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So for example we had nine or ten miles of streets but we don't put any more manpower into the system we don't buy any more materials.

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That just means that what we have gets spread out across even more areas and you start to see that level of service to grade.

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If you remember looking back at the previous five years and you look at that three hundred million dollar investment we made.

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And then go look at what our operating budget and you know last year our operating budget went down seven or eight million dollars.

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I mean it should be going obviously if you're going to try to keep up it should be going the other direction in order to keep pace with it.

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So in a lot of areas you'll lose the level of service but it's not as.

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Again mandatory as when you're talking about people like the fire the fire department as you move in and again this is one of the advantages of doing the multi year CIP.

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The multi year CIP is each year means right now are kind of our projections but when we come in to actually propose for the next year's budget.

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These items in the CIP we should have much better refined and cost and you can decide at that point council can decide at that point.

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Do they go ahead and increase the operating budget to match whatever those are or do they just kind of note that you have we understand that's the first year and maybe three years in we have to make that adjustment as you go in.

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In horror story that I encountered going through this in another community where we we constructed a new fire station full knowledge that was going to be an entire new company.

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That was necessary I think was 12 to 15 people plus equipment that we're in that was in there.

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Council of the time went in fully understanding that it was going to take I think for us it was going to take a three cent tax increase to pay for for that.

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And again they programmed it out so there was three four years away when we got to that point the council at that moment said we're not going to raise taxes three cents to cover that expense.

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The firemen it actually they were ready to be to be hired actually started that case and we ended up laying off over 20 employees to cover that that cost.

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You don't want to get yourself in that situation unless that's ultimately what you want to do I mean there is obviously the option to come in and reduce services somewhere else to pay for it rather than trying to increase the tax revenue but that was.

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That was not a pleasant experience to have gone through and it was kind of a foreseeable train wreck that wasn't avoided it as we went in we tried to structure.

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Those kinds of major expenditures in O and M so that you've got some time to adjust for them you're not going to see anything sprung in year one that suddenly says we got to raise the operating budget by a million dollars you're just not going to see that.

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Let me turn to the I guess let me ask first if there are any questions about any of that information and then I'd like to turn to just some of the project details.

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Any any questions about any of that.

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Yes Bob for those of us that are visually challenged who like to look at the.

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At your charts.

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The second slide the second bar chart.

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I noticed that first of all hopefully you will have one that kind of expands on the would you go back to the second.

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You're going to have a blurry on me.

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I've been put on my glasses and got this close to the screen and it stills.

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Let's see was that was at the first one.

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I was looking at well.

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First I would like to see a slide that would show yeah maybe that's it.

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I want to look at wastewater for the years FY 1670.

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This is the one.

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It wasn't there another slide.

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It looked like this one.

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It looked like that.

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Well, let me just look like a solid waste goes away in FY 1920.

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But 1670 if I just kind of looked at that.

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It looked like it was 5 million and then 1718 it went down to less than a million and then.

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1819 it went back up to 3 million.

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So Tim about the revenue side of the house.

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How does that?

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For solid waste the solid waste actually for these these projects and these are projects at your landfill.

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And so you have a fund where you actually make transfers from the general fund into that improvement fund.

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And that's true with streets as well as the landfill and a couple of other categories.

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The revenue actually ultimately comes from the folks that actually purchase sanitation services and landfill services.

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Unlike your utilities though we don't operate our sanitation operation as an enterprise.

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So what happens is you collect all the revenue from the landfill and you collect all the revenue from your collection system.

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And it actually goes into your general fund and then money is transferred.

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Well, one it covers the operating expenses of the operation in your budget and money is transferred into that improvement fund.

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So that for example that first year which is inclusive of that 5 million dollar project.

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And if you look on the spreadsheet it's actually the landfill gas collection and control system if you recall that we talked about.

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That was that money was already in that improvement fund and so we just withdrew from that improvement fund to pay for that improvement.

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That's also one of the reasons why you see a couple of years as you point it out that have no investment being made in the landfill.

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And it's because the improvement fund will have no money in it because we'll have drawn from that as we go forward.

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That's not the case necessarily with streets because you always have right now you've sending the budget say solid.

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You've always got that 1.5 or so million that you transfer into that improvement fund every year.

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So you'll never get to a zero and that street improvement fund and I shouldn't say zero.

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You don't get to zero in the landfill improvement fund either because you have some reserves built into it, but you may not have enough money in there to actually make one of the capital purchases.

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Is that is that answer that question.

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Revenue comes from the users of the system goes in the general fund and then you all reallocate a portion of that into that improvement fund that we use for projects like this.

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And I guess that.

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To follow up on that because a good question is the same thing.

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Work with when you mentioned when we have trucks and they're least back.

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Is that a transfer from a departmental fund into the general fund?

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So what you'll do is that the general fund basically so I'll take streets department.

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So the streets department has their general operating budget that you all approve.

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And inside that you'll see that there is a line that deals with with rental charges.

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And so it's coming out of the general fund it's going to pay for their years cost of all of their vehicles that they have.

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That goes into the fleet account basically the money that's being set aside both to cover the fleet's operating costs to take care of the vehicles.

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As well as to if you will kind of put away savings that ultimately will go to pay for the replacement of those vehicles.

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And as that budget this is what we see we see transfer funds that we see different things like that.

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And that is a and you all know this I think but that's a system that actually was pioneered here in Amrillo back 40 years ago.

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No one else did it that way and Amrillo actually.

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In Texas created that that system and now pretty much everyone does and again the reason you do it is because it avoided somebody standing up here and trying to make an argument this year.

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I need a million dollars so I can buy.

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You know some type of equipment out of the landfill now occasionally you'll still get that if we need to add to the fleet.

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When we have to expand the fleet but we no longer have to do that for our 1200 plus pieces of equipment that we already have we've got that built in so we're going to address that.

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Because we absolutely know those are going to wear out on a predictable time period.

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If we get any more life we just use it but we know they're going to be gone.

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Yeah and that's why glindas is glind manages that fleet it's not a you know we have by policy of replacement schedule we anticipate replacing certain things at five years and seven years.

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But if the vehicle is actually low on mileage and actually is running perfectly fine glind's not going to replace that vehicle yet he'll extended for another year or two.

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And we just continue to collect those dollars so that we're ready to actually and most of the time that absorbs kind of inflation costs that go with those new models as you move forward.

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And that's how we manage that we do the same thing although not nearly as well with information technology.

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So IT's built the same way basically there's a charge back to the departments that IT then uses.

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To replace all of the IT equipment that we have, that has largely not been as well funded.

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And you see that when you go through this community investment, we just don't have that much money to actually apply toward IT, and that's going to be an issue going forward.

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It really has lengthened our replacement schedules, and as licensees get more expensive.

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It's been a struggle with us, but that's how we fund that piece as well.

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If it's okay, if you all would turn to the spreadsheet, I just want to explain what that spreadsheet is.

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So what we've done very similar to what you had at the last presentation, where last time it was just one year, what we've identified by a category.

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So you'll see things, facilities, streets and transportation, police, animal management, so on.

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You'll see by year what we propose to spend for what project year by year, as you go forward, and of course, ultimately that's how you arrive at $418 million.

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The lines that are green are the ones that are the voter authorized projects.

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So, and then off to the very right, it has what proposition that was associated with, proposition one or proposition two.

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So you can actually see, as you get further into the spreadsheet, the vast majority of projects are having to be funded, predominantly by utility rates.

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The ones we talked about, or some sort of grant like again with airport or transit.

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You know, out of that $418 million worth of investment over five years, only about 110 million is actually coming off of the increase tied to the voter authorized approvals as you go forward.

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The idea of this spreadsheet is really to kind of help you be able to look and say, well, in relative terms, how much are we spending on streets and transportation.

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So out of that $418 million, I'll use this one example.

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Out of that $418 million, 91 million is going to streets and transportation.

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Likewise, if you turn the biggest item, obviously, always will be your utilities.

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Out of that $418 million, there's $189 million over those five years going to utilities.

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And then you can likewise go into the body of the spreadsheet and identify some of those projects.

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If you go, for example, in the utility section, and you see there's a project that is identified that is a single $11 million project.

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That's the Northwest Interceptor line.

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That line is necessary so that the medical district can continue to expand.

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And so development can occur out in Northwest part of the city.

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Without it, we can't accommodate that expansion.

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And that includes there's some additional costs for lift stations and those kinds of things.

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So that's how you would use the spreadsheet just to get an idea of how you actually can kind of dig into it.

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We've tried again to program it when it comes to development-related things.

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We've tried to link that up with the approved preliminary plans that the developers have submitted.

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But if you already call when we went to kind of the one-stop shop and we revised our development procedure,

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this was sort of the deal we made effectively with the developers, which was if you show us officially what you proposed to do on your property,

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which may be a full square mile, over the next 15 to 20 years, we can then program our improvements ahead of time.

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Rather than you show up kind of out of the blue and say, well, I need a street and I need drainage.

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Well, that's nice, but we don't have it budgeted.

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That we're now able to do that with those approved preliminary plans.

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So that's why you see development projects linked to the pinnacle because it has a approved preliminary.

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You see it linked to redstone because it has an approved preliminary.

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You see it linked to the vineyards because they have an approved preliminary.

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So that's how we're using those documents, those approved plans as we move forward.

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Now again, because you refine this each year for some reason those projects don't happen.

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Maybe they decide we're going to put them off.

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Well, then you won't make those expenditures. You'll adjust that investment to another, another line item as you move forward.

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Tides to this spreadsheet. Again, as I mentioned, is the big thick document that you have.

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So every one of these projects is identified on one of the information sheets like you see on the screen.

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And it gives some very basic information about the project.

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Just to help you and ultimately the public understand what this is.

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So for example, if I look at the martin road, the gene how park and martin road lake.

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What's included in it is some information that we need to be able to track the project.

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It tells you it's in the northeast portion of the city in case you know where it was and then it has a scope of what the project is.

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So just a brief explanation of what this project is and what the estimated expenditure on the capital side is to accomplish that project.

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The idea is we've used these information sheets for a couple of years now to build to get to this point.

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The idea is that ultimately we'll use those information sheets out on the web to update folks on the progress of each of these projects.

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So we'll say hey on this year we've planned it on starting this project and we're in design and here's the timeline for design and we're going to start construction.

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That's the other thing you'll note in this spreadsheet is a number of these projects are spread out over two or three years.

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That's typically because we've got some design element that needs to go on the first year.

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Occasionally land acquisition like for our fire stations and then construction.

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So we've also tried to be a little more realistic instead of saying you know we can get a $13 million project done in one year.

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Well no we can't you know it's going to take us two to three years to design and construct a $13 million northwest interceptor line.

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And so that's tried to reflect in here and again that allows us to equalize those expenditures.

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So I'm not going to go through obviously that nice thick pile of projects but I do want to come back to that in just a second if that's okay.

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The last slide I have is really kind of the next next steps in this process just so you know and so the public knows what to anticipate.

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So what we'll do now is we're actually starting.

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This is this is the CIP I mean this is the draft CIP so what we will by the end of this week we will have a completed document which is the five year CIP the proposed five year CIP.

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That will be made available to the public and it certainly will be made available to you all with the idea being that it's your next meeting next Tuesday.

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You'll conduct a public hearing on the proposed five year CIP and the first reading of the ordinance to adopt it.

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And then on the February 14 meeting you'll have the second reading which time then hopefully the CIP will be adopted.

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The adoption basically lets everybody know this is what we plan on doing for the next year for the next five years.

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The only piece again that ultimately is fixed in stone is what's already been approved for year one.

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Now I would hope that you could look at if it's not fixed in stone it's at least fixed in wood.

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That means pretty fixed I mean we don't want to what you don't want to do is go in and radically alter because again then you lose the advantage of any type of planning that you've put into injured but things change and we understand that it'll have to be adjustable as we move forward.

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I mentioned at the last meeting that we've already taken steps.

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Floyd has already taken steps to begin to pre qualify designers and consultants.

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Thirty firms who submitted their qualifications to provide a variety of different services for the city.

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The advantage that does for us is we can immediately start negotiating scope and price with them rather than spending the next 90 days seeking qualifications because we pre qualified them or we're in the process of qualifying them.

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So every one of our projects will realize a time savings of at least 90 days as we start to roll out with that.

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None of our projects though are locked in so we find that we can't get to a good price or we just don't have someone totally qualified to do the project we can go through that process it doesn't lock us in but it certainly sets the stage to be able to let us do that.

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Within the next two weeks that work will be done so we're ready to actually start negotiating with the consultants for those those services.

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We anticipate within 90 days we will be ready to actually issue debt just as you did in the last meeting you completed the issuance of the debt tied to the emergency radio program.

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What we will be coming forward within 90 days is the proposal to issue the voter authorized debt for year one of those projects that are identified in the capital as well as any revenue debt that we need to issue tied to the already approved rate increase of the first year for water and wastewater.

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So again that will be within the next 90 days it will be able to do that and of course that allows us to begin work on those projects.

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Now we'll start design on those projects as soon as we can because we have money to be able to actually manage that but we can't actually start construction on many of those projects until the debts actually issued.

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So that gives you a sense of how we'll go through that you all know I've been tried to be careful as I present at these projects to say the year they're identified as the year will start them in.

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We will continue doing projects probably two years maybe three years after the five year life of this because we will start some projects in year five and it will take us two or three years to finish some of those projects.

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And you just need to build in that kind of flex especially because we really don't know you don't know how the market's going to react in terms of push out for bids for construction.

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And what those dollars will look like or even what the responsiveness will be like as we push out some of these projects moving forward so we need to be adaptable with those as much as we can.

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Bob, what we put in a new street what kind of warranty do we get from the.

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Paving company there's a fairly short term warranty associated with it and I want to say it's a year one year and it's really it's pretty limited even in what that one year is and we keep we do regular inspections on those and we keep kind of a punch list.

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What we've hidden miss and success with is we worked with the contractors where the past practice used to be an effect monitor for a year and then the end of the year sort of spring on them here all the things you got to fix.

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And instead we switched more to where we're kind of monitoring along the way and if we see something significant come up will approach the contractor with trying to do that warranty work to get it fixed at that time rather than waiting until the end which makes it a lot more challenging to do.

342
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This may help miss Scott would you explain acceptance of a street because that doesn't always take place.

343
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Yeah, there's there is obviously they're constructing the street and usually this is tied to our private development streets so more so than our capital projects but.

344
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So they're constructing the streets over some period of time and using those streets in many instances especially in private development to get to the home sites that are under construction.

345
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We will not accept those streets as ours and therefore begin the warranty until they've gone basically the street has to meet all of our requirements and standards at that moment in time and then we accept it and then the warranty period starts.

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So there's always leading up to that point already a punch list of some given take kinds of things so we can get the street up to the level that's required as we go through and that again that is probably a bigger issue with our private streets.

347
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The streets they get constructed in the development and our private streets are our streets in the development they get constructed privately more so than our capital streets as we build our materials.

348
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My concern is are we no longer doing our own core samples on these streets as we go along or we put it all up on the contract.

349
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I'm going to defer to Floyd on that because we're Kyle the city in.

350
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Kyle's there too.

351
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Don't necessarily know the answer to that.

352
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Good question. This is all kind of changed over the last few years.

353
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So.

354
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Yes sir. Thank you.

355
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Kyle's leader John.

356
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Basically on our new technical specifications for the for paving.

357
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The contractor is doing the testing and the city of America.

358
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They do quality control testing and the city does quality assurance testing.

359
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So for example the initial core samples that they take on hot mix.

360
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Specifically hot mix. They do their own quality control.

361
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And then the obligation for acceptance is quality assurance where and that technically just reduces the number of samples that the city has to take for acceptance purposes.

362
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But when that comes down to is the is the road being constructed as they go in a quality manner.

363
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That does fall on the contractor in their response.

364
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My concern is not I've had it more than one.

365
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A asphalt company tell me that if they're responsible for doing the sampling.

366
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They pull 10 samples in their bad.

367
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They're going to throw those in a dumpster and keep pull until they have 10 good ones and they bring them to you and they pass.

368
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If we were doing our own testing we would be assured that we're going to have a 15 20 year road because we only got a one year warranty with some exceptions.

369
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So that's concerning.

370
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So how we cover that and how you're exactly correct.

371
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And so what we do require is that that is that that testing is performed by a third party certified laboratory.

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And not only the laboratory certified meeting either state standards, ASTM standards.

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But then likewise is represented by a further licensed engineer a civil engineer who carries a professional license and professional liability.

374
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That does certifies a third party the the validity and the accuracy of those tests as they go along.

375
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Well are we getting reports on every one they pull.

376
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I mean if they pull seven bad ones and they get it tested their bad and they throw them away and then they get some good ones.

377
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I mean there's a ring way to stop that.

378
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Well the contractor requires that that all samples are submitted.

379
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The contract does require that if they take a sample then that is is a public record quality control sample.

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Their choice to comply with that is tied to their own professional license and their own ethics but those those ethics being regulated through.

381
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Again professional Los Angeles and and certifications not only of their labs but of their personnel.

382
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Sir is that similar to what I know textile requires they install a lab on site and do those so they can get immediate response.

383
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How close to that are we.

384
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Well so there are a few firms that we contract with that do utilize a lab on site.

385
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But for the most part the scale and size that we're dealing with our contractors are hiring.

386
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So there's a third party laboratories to do those testing not on site.

387
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Dyspeederson laboratories apex laboratory.

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Emerald testing.

389
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Those local those local engineers and local testing firm.

390
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The city of Lubbock has their own testing facility up in toll.

391
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Yes sir.

392
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Yes sir.

393
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And we just go I mean is it cost prohibitive or.

394
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We had a testing lab in the past.

395
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And over the long term and and since I've in a part we we did not.

396
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I don't really know what the what the background was to that demise but in general.

397
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This is the this is the method that again follows very closely to text out another consulting methods.

398
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Around the state that you secure third party.

399
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On the contrary, that's kind of the outside source that are bound by their own licenses and professional conduct to utilize as an outside source.

400
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And some of those even can be employed regularly by that contractor, don't get me wrong, there is absolutely a relationship there.

401
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But those last engineers and certifications are what we're really relying on.

402
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But what we're relying on the contractor to bring in a bad sample, we're expecting him to bring in a bad sample if it's bad.

403
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Every sample.

404
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They don't typically, again, hiring that third party to take the samples with the contractor doesn't do the sampling.

405
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But in effect, you're correct.

406
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I just want to make sure the streets, we get good streets when we don't have another hillside or you know.

407
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Okay, thank you. I think they're great questions, but Kyle, I'd just to be sure, so the contractor in his bid has to cover the cost of that.

408
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But we're allowed to inspect that and enter.

409
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Yeah, absolutely, and absolutely, the quality assurance is at our, we can do as much quality assurance as we, as we choose.

410
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And in the situation where we have suspect or we feel like we need to do additional, that is absolutely at our power and we have that ability to do.

411
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And we do so.

412
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We have generally a set standard that they are that they bid as far as how many tests are going to be required over whatever portion we're doing.

413
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And that's outlined for both the quality control to be performed by and paid for under the contractor's contract.

414
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And then what the typical would be for quality assurance.

415
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But quality assurance is not tied to a minimum.

416
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We can do as much testing as we absolutely want.

417
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Lloyd.

418
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Mayor Council, if I could add to that, that's a good question.

419
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In the multi discipline RFQ that we have out, we are selecting testing firms as part of that professional procurement, which allows us to review the contracts to make flexible.

420
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How much we test and what we do to address that specific issue.

421
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:24,000
If we see issues like that, we can add that testing because we already have them procured under that pre qualified list.

422
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We're also going to conduct review of our contracts through the legal review to determine if improvements need to be made in those processes.

423
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And testing specifically targeted timely for the bond issue.

424
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Okay.

425
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So I, but the labs not required to tell us every test that's been taken.

426
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The labs is going to test and give it back to the contractor to provide to you.

427
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So the bad test could still go on the dumps.

428
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We can change that model to where they are our own test.

429
00:47:53,000 --> 00:48:00,000
We own those and we hire that lab ourselves and there's no contact with the contractor if that's how we choose to do it.

430
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So as we move forward in the review, I'm not saying we're doing that but we'll have the option if we look at those contracts and issue those contracts to do exactly that.

431
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:16,000
The city own higher the tester and own those and they will be required to deliver all of those to us.

432
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If that's what we choose to do.

433
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And that's why we've moved to that avenue to give us that option easily and timely.

434
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,000
Does that help?

435
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,000
Okay.

436
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But I want to make a statement with the whole council Floyd Kyle.

437
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We have not in the past always given you I think the support to do this sort of thing.

438
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,000
All of us.

439
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,000
I was part of that.

440
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,000
We didn't really know the technique.

441
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But I don't think a one of us wants to see us spend 80 million dollars on streets that have any concerns throughout this or at the end or in the middle.

442
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So I think you're seeing from this council support that those things are done in a very professional way.

443
00:48:54,000 --> 00:49:06,000
With reports and I think that's what really saying is we support you being very fiduciary responsible about those works and that they're done correctly the first time.

444
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:11,000
And you will see some of those costs you are talking about will be incorporated into each of these projects.

445
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Everything from bringing in other project managers to assist us because again we're just not our staff is not large enough to actually accommodate some of these two inspectors to some of these testing methods and I know we've been talking about.

446
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:36,000
But remember we're testing all of our all of our investments whether it's a building or whether it's a utility they're all going through some form of testing for that quality assurance and then ultimately a contractor for that quality control element.

447
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,000
Great question.

448
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,000
I just I just want to follow up on that.

449
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Has anything in our recent experience about some roads some issues we've had changed the process that you guys and this is really deployed.

450
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:56,000
And if so just in general what is that change so we can make sure that there's some kind of.

451
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I think the first change frankly had a lot to do with what the mayor alluded to which is budget those tests cost money and we were not allowed to pass those costs on to the developers that was why we shifted the model now the model that we shifted to is as Kyle said it's very common that's the more typical model where.

452
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It's the responsibility of a third party engineer to actually collect those however and an effort to try to increase the assurance.

453
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That we're getting what it is that we need to get that's why Floyd actually took the steps he did to include those engineering are those testing firms in that prequalification so that we can indeed move into that if need be.

454
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Because you know in the past we've had some issues now we haven't I don't think we've had necessarily the issues that are being talked about here meaning somebody hasn't necessarily an engineer is not honored there their license your requirements.

455
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But I think the potentials there and so we want to try to close that gap where it makes sense and again there's a cost with it.

456
00:50:53,000 --> 00:51:01,000
I mean I you'd much rather put money into asphalt but at the same time you want to make sure the asphalt you're building or the pipe you're putting in place is going to last.

457
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:05,000
That's right I mean just as simplified as a whole lot of money and I don't we don't need any bumpy roads.

458
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,000
That's right.

459
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:11,000
So I just want to make sure that the process has reflected that inside of what we've learned in the past.

460
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:20,000
And that you know that last in that model that I had that last line in the arrow that said changing practices and contracts goes exactly to this point.

461
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:29,000
And Floyd talked about the contract piece too is looking at our contracts to see if we have the in some instances our contracts are too weak for us to be able to actually enforce some of the provisions.

462
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:34,000
And we're going to change those so that we can actually move to where we can correct problems easier than perhaps.

463
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:43,000
And I understand as you do the RFPs or RFQs that you're going to inform those people and it's going to be a much more stringent process and to consider that is our bidding it.

464
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And if we get an eighth of a mile less for a dollar we aren't back repeating the work in three years rather than.

465
00:51:51,000 --> 00:52:01,000
Obviously the challenge with all of it is trying to strike a balance between assuring the quality of what we're getting and not pricing ourselves unnecessarily out of what we can afford to do.

466
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:05,000
So it's that that balance because it all comes in the same pot of money.

467
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So are these questions satisfied in the interest of time we have about five minutes.

468
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:21,000
And I think the only other thing I wanted to say was again what our plan in your packet that you'll get for your meeting coming next week will basically be essentially the same version of maybe some minor tweaks from what you have at your at your desk.

469
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But if you take the time to look at the spreadsheet also look at any of the projects any questions that you have certainly will be ready to answer those because I'd like us to move the next two meetings to a point where we're saying this this is what we're going to do in order to start moving forward with these projects.

470
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,000
So you'd job lots of work well well presented.

471
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:46,000
And the last thing I want to say to you is that I would not have gone to this point without Floyd's help obviously in Ronda Ferguson and Stephanie Coggins because.

472
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I get to stand up here and present this stuff they actually get to put these lists together and the spreadsheets and all that kind of stuff.

473
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,000
You would not want me doing that so I appreciate their help as we go through this so.

474
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,000
And we'll talk a lot more of the next couple meetings on this.

475
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,000
Like Bob we echo your support of their efforts.

476
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,000
Thank you.

477
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,000
Okay Bob is that it for the work session.

478
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:07,000
Okay we're going to adjourn the work session and we'll come back at 5 p.m. for the meeting.

479
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,000
Thank you all.

480
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There's Bob Schroeder with Hillside Christian Church.

481
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Faster would you give her any of the case.

482
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Father and heaven we pause right now just to remember who you are.

483
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Your love your grace.

484
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Your blessings on us as people end upon this community.

485
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And we thank you that we can meet like this to take care of affairs of.

486
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What this community is about and what it needs and we pray you're blessing upon each one each word spoken.

487
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Pray for wisdom and discernment that you bring to us.

488
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In Christ's name we pray.

489
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Amen.

490
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,000
Thank you pastor would you join me for the pledge of allegiance.

491
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:59,000
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.

492
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And to the Republic for which it stands.

493
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,000
One nation under God.

494
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:05,000
Indivisible.

495
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,000
We've delivered to you.

496
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,000
And justice for all.

497
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,000
Thank you please be seated.

498
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We have a special introduction.

499
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We'll have right after we call the meeting to order.

500
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:25,000
Good evening.

501
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Welcome to the regularly scheduled meeting of the Ameral of City Council held on the third floor of City Hall this Tuesday at 3 p.m.

502
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We would like to not go over the agenda in the minutes at this moment but first have an introduction.

503
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So I'm going to call in Brian Brector head of the Ameral Economic Development board to give us an introduction.

504
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,000
And Brian before you begin.

505
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If you're here for a moment for recognition, we don't mind if you stand but normally we'd ask everyone to please find a seat as long as there's empty seats and a room.

506
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,000
Please find a seat.

507
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,000
Thank you so much.

508
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,000
Brian.

509
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,000
Thank you for being here.

510
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,000
Thank you.

511
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:07,000
My pleasure to be here today to do the introduction of our new President and CEO.

512
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:13,000
I'm Brian Brector the current board chair for the Ameral Economic Development Corporation.

513
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:20,000
And when our previous President and CEO retired earlier last year, we began a diligent search.

514
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:24,000
We were tamed Jordan Synosoships, a national firm.

515
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:31,000
And their principal top, Jordan Syn, to search across the country for a replacement.

516
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:38,000
We felt very good about the process that we went through and looked at candidates from across the country.

517
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And feel like that we've selected the gentleman as the right fit at the right time for the Ameral Attacks.

518
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:46,000
So I am.

519
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:53,000
I'm pleased to introduce Barry Albreck, our new President and CEO of the Ameral Economic Development Corporation.

520
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Thank you.

521
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:07,000
Mayor of City Council members, it's a true honor and a privilege to serve an organization like this and serve you.

522
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,000
It's important that I tell you that I will be serving you.

523
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,000
I visualize the city as a customer.

524
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:17,000
But the organization we're going to serve the entire community.

525
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,000
Business leaders as well as citizens.

526
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:24,000
I have already reached out and started meeting with individual council members.

527
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,000
Mayor.

528
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,000
But I haven't reached everyone yet.

529
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,000
This is my sixth day on the job.

530
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,000
But I will be calling on you.

531
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,000
I will be interviewing you, sharing my philosophies.

532
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,000
But in the future, I will let me reassure you.

533
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:42,000
I will be reaching out engaging you as city council members.

534
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:50,000
There's nothing more rewarding as an elected official than seeing the results of economic development come into your community.

535
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:59,000
So I'm going to be engaging that for you because it's become very clear meeting with the citizens, elected officials, business leaders,

536
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:11,000
the Board of Directors, the Chamber, the Arts Groups that the community of Emerllo insist on better paying jobs that feeds our quality of life.

537
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,000
So if you have any questions, feel free.

538
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,000
I will be calling you if I have it met with you yet.

539
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,000
Some way or fashion, we have met.

540
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:24,000
And I just want to thank you that in reassure you that it is an honor and a privilege to have this position.

541
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,000
Thank you.

542
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Thank you.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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Thank you.

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Thank you for being here and we wish you the best success.

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It means success for our city and I'm sure you'll be a great leader for that group.

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As with your board, we're conclosive with your board.

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So thank you all for your efforts.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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That next item then is the minutes.

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We'll consider approval of the minutes.

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I'm sorry.

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Excuse me.

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We have a recognition of Excel energy.

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Mayor, we wanted to take the opportunity to recognize the work that Excel energy did over the most recent storm,

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I storm throughout the Panhandle as well.

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It's also an opportunity to acknowledge the many businesses and individuals who actually donated food,

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donated time, all kinds of other things for those guys that we're working.

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And so that's what the purpose of this.

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Thank you very much.

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Welcome.

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Thank you, Mayor, City Council.

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I'm running Walker with Excel energy.

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I'm the regional manager of Community Service for the Texas Panhandle region.

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I've also have a couple of guests with me today.

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I've got Brad Maldridge.

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Brad is the Senior Director of Distribution Operations for Excel organization.

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And Drew Chettister, Drew's the Community Service Manager for Canadian Texas.

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And he also covers Perry to the Panhandle and the surrounding smaller cities in the northeastern Texas Panhandle.

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So thanks for having us.

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We do have a short little presentation.

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Powerful presentation about the restoration efforts and a lot about the Panhandle spirit that came shining through in response to this winter storm.

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Jupiter that came through.

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Let's give one.

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There it is.

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Winter storm, Jupiter, in our area, in our service territory.

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Excel energy on the evening of Friday the 13th.

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That's always a bad day for us.

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And largely produce significant weather, winter weather all the way through Sunday evening of the,

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January the 15th.

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Weather conditions during the storm,

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including significant rainfall.

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We had anywhere from 3 to 3.5 to 5 inches of rain.

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In the panel here in Emmerillo, thunderstorms, all day Saturday, Sunday, we had that throughout the northeastern Texas

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fan panel. Also, we had significant freezing rain that hit further, further northeastern as the

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temperatures got colder. The further we went north, the bigger they asked gotten and the more

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the ice accumulated on the trees, power lines and anything that was standing, actually any structure

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that was standing. The most heavily impacted area in our territory was, some mentioned the northeast Texas

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fan panel where the temperatures were a little colder. We were still let you know and we've got a lot

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of good pictures here, but just to let you know, we were about two degrees off here from having a major

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major catastrophe in Emmerillo, Texas. It was that bad and you'll see from some of the pictures,

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I know you've seen them some of them, but the significant damage that we received in the northeastern

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Texas fan panel. We knew this storm was coming. It started getting worse and worse. We've

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got the emergency management sends us weather reports and so does the National Weather Service. So we began

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pre-staging a few days before this thing hit, because we knew it was coming. And so we had crews,

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we had crews on standby, and Brad's going to get into a little bit of that when he comes up and talks

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about the restoration efforts, but those efforts started that weekend and actually went through

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the 20th of January, which is at Friday and actually at Saturday also, next week. We had over 58,000

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excellent energy customers that were affected by the storm. This picture right here, this was the picture

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that we received from the National Weather Service. This was just a few days before kind of outlining

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the storm and the path of the storm, which was going to go and I mean, you know, the weather guys usually

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are a little bit off. They pretty much nailed this one exactly. You can see where it says,

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damaging and crippling. Actually, it was a little bit further into the panhandle. It was the crippling

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but we received it in the storm coming in and followed this path just about precisely there.

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Brad's going to come up now, Brad Baldridge, who's a senior director of operations. He's going to

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talk about the restoration efforts, the crews, and what it took to get our facilities back,

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back in work in order. Brad. Now, thank you, Ronnie. I appreciate that. As Ronnie was saying,

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we began to get this kind of information earlier in the week. We staged crews up in the northeast

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panhandle, all down into Emerllo as well. Had them on standby, Saturday morning, as the storm became

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to come in. We also reached out to our contract resources, letting them know that we may be calling upon

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them Sunday or Monday to come in and assist. And then we reached out to our sister company, PSCO,

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there in Colorado out of Denver, and they ready a group of 59 employees to come down in case we

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would call upon them in that aspect of it. So, total restoration efforts that took place. As Ronnie mentioned

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is 58,000 employees. This was the largest storm that has impacted our territory since the 99

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last storm that occurred over Super Bowl weekend. If you recall that, it took out to the largest

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damage was done up there in the Lipscom area. It's a 73 mile line, radio line that goes out of Booker

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serves all the way down into Higgins, Texas. That entire line at some portion of every mile of that line

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was down. So, it goes and serves Higgins, Fallet, Lipscom, and Derisette, and just totally destroyed

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that line. Also, we impacted several of our communities, Panther, Borgher, mentioned Derisette already,

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Spearman, Perryton, and even in the northeast part of Emerllo. So, it reached deep into our territory

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from the northeast point. It damaged over 7,500 structures, 1300 power poles, 26, 2300 cross-arms,

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so it touched a great deal of our territory up there. As you notice here, this is a map that indicates

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the territory that we have up in the northeast panhandle. The red hash marks shows where the ice came in,

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and it was significant. We were at reports of ice on our lines up to a coffee can size. So,

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significant damage, significant portion of our territory, and in doing so, we had to reach out and

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get some support from our contractors as well as our sister companies. We had over 977 full-time

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resources that includes employees, contractors, assisting with that again with 59 of them coming from

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our PSCO company. We had resources internally from SPS, over 300 full-time employees from SPS alone working

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on this storm that came as far as Carl's bad into Mexico, and our contractors came as far away

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as Chad knew to Tennessee. So, we had to reach out quite a ways to bring in, but we had some of the best

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working on the storm. So, we'll talk a little bit real quick about why ice is really damaging for

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a electric utility. As you can see, I'll ask it's up on the lines, and it's just the sheer amount of

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weight that it puts on the lines. It adds thousands of pounds to our structures, and doing that.

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Again, we had reports of coffee cancels, coffee cancels, ice on the line. The other thing that you get,

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we got Sunday morning, Sunday evening, into Monday morning, we had a little bit of breeze,

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and even the slot breeze that we had to into 15 mile an hour presented a situation what we call

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galloping. It starts to flow across that ice, and the lines will begin to buck and move up and down.

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That puts a lot of weight, a lot of tension on our structures, on our cross storms, and you start seeing

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damage as this. The other thing that you might not realize is the damage that comes when the ice starts to

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release. So, as that weight starts to release, it again causes the line to buck. Sometimes,

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it'll cause the phases to go into each other, and we'll actually burn phases down, and in doing so,

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you create a cascading effect. Once you lose one, it will start cascading in each direction.

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It causes a hazardous situation for our employees, an employee may go up on the line. You may have that

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ice built up on the line, and when you start breaking away that ice, it causes the structures on each

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side up to collapse. We had that. We had employees reporting as they went up, but the lines busted

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us off the lines, you would have a mile and two in each direction start to cascading fall over.

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So, the very hazardous conditions for our employees, the other thing you get when you have an

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icing event of this kind is the damage that it causes to trees. The trees, as we know, gets the

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weight on them, and they start to collapse. That starts to bring down primary lines, but probably more importantly,

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in this particular situation, in this storm, it starts to bring down service lines. So,

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not only do you have the wide-scale damage on the large feeder, so that you have the individual

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service lines going to the houses, pulls those lines down, it will pull the customers mass off the house,

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so you have lots of damage to the customer's equipment that has to be repaired by electrician.

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So, a very tough situation for our customers. You can just see the amount of ice that was built

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up on the trees in those areas. Again, here's a picture of a gate, it shows some pictures of

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the ice buildup that we saw out there. And then this is a picture of the Perikton service center.

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You can see the lines coming in and out of the substation of this outside of the service center there

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in the lights, the amount of ice that was on the Sunday night. So, lots of opportunity for us to have

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damage, wide-scale damage, when the wind picked up Sunday evening into Monday morning.

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And then the next thing you start, as our crew started to work on the lines, that ice starts to melt,

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and it now prevents a muddy situation force. And with this terrain up there, especially at some

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of the most rough terrain that we have in the SPS territory, it's up and down, it's very rugged,

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it's very rural, and in doing so, you have lots of mud. And what that requires us is you just

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can't drive a truck in there at that point. We had to have dozers, farmers came in, volunteered their

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time, gave us their tractor to drag our equipment through from pole to pole, and it's truly just

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pole to pole, and there's a lot of effort. Here's some pictures that indicate the amount of trucks that

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we had in the air. At some points of the restoration, we had trucks in the air for two miles of

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the time. So a truck at Everpole for two miles straight, it's just a great restoration effort by our

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crews, and the efforts they put out there. An additional poles there, the other thing that we had, it's

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specifically up there on Highway 15 is the traffic control. A lot of folks wanted to get out and look,

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see the damage, and we had that. And so presented an additional hazard for us, but all in all, the

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customers up there did a good job about staying out and staying out of the damage areas.

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We'll quick before I turn over to Drew, just talk a little bit about our employees. We did have,

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we believe we've got extraordinary employees, and they did an outstanding effort in this. Not only did they

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they worked 16 hour days for just over a week, they did it safely, and we were able to provide

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restoration services to our customers without any kind of serious injury to our employees.

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And then just to comment about the 58,000 customers that were impacted at that. They're the most

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gracious that I've ever seen. One thing about being in this job, we have the opportunity to assist

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other utilities across the company. We've been to Florida, we've been to the Gulf of Mexico,

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we've been even Hurricane Sandy up in New York several years back. I've never seen the people like

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we have in this area, and Drew Machaudester is going to talk to us about the people that we have in

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this room. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Drew. Before you go, could I ask the folks in back that came in

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late, we asked you to please take a seat. We know the first responders are here. We ask everyone to

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else to please take a seat. Thank you very much. Go ahead, Drew. Thank you all for having me. Well,

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like I said, I work in communications and you can imagine how nervous I was going to be when

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a storm like this hits. They kind of phone calls. I'm going to receive, but I just want to say that

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I did receive a lot of phone calls, but I never received one negative phone call. All the phone calls were

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for support. They wanted me to point out how appreciate the lime and were and that they thank them for coming,

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you know, far and wide to come and serve their community. So I never received one negative feedback and that

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was great. It made me much of a busy one of the tasks that I was tasked with was I had to provide

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a place where we could feed 700 lime and also a storage facility where we can

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cover material, store trucks, we had hundreds and hundreds of trucks. So I called them the county and the

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county came out and allowed us to use their expo building. And their expo buildings are pretty

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good sized buildings. We were able to get the lime and in the evenings pretty much out of the weather,

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tables and chairs and sit down and relax and a place they can just sort of hang out to finish the

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evening off. And then the county also allowed us to use the parking lot as a material storey area

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where the trucks could pull up and get the material and then also a place overnight to house all the

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equipment and everything. So it really worked out really good and it was a great partnership with the

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county to be able to do them. But trying to get a catering company to be able to serve 700 lime and

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some of the expressions I got when I called them was pretty overwhelming. The local catering companies

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are really couldn't use for the first two days because they have to order all the supplies. They

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really just cannot do anything to that magnitude. I think I hit that. I'm sorry.

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A little bag. I guess I was sitting and clicking. I didn't even know what I'm sorry. That's the one

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I want to do. Okay. First of all, I want to say thank you. We use a couple local catering companies.

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We use our young bloods cafe in the Plaza. When I first tried to go local, it was just too overwhelming.

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They couldn't do it. So I contacted the Plaza. Plaza put emerala, border and pampered together,

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and they were able to come out and cater to the nights. And young bloods later on was able to take

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over the breakfast in the lunches, which made a lot easier for me to sit and run around trying to

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get all the local ones. But the ones I really want to say thank you to is United supermarket.

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I don't know what I would do without them. I called on United and it was overwhelming for United,

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but their employees came in about four or four o'clock in the morning and it made about 900

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breakfast burritos each morning on the first two mornings and served it to the linemen as they took off.

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They also provided the lunches. The first day they came out and made cheeseburger sack lunches

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over about 900 of them and delivered it to the employees. The second day we're running out of supplies.

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And I mean with that many people in town with a lot of people being out of power,

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supermarket was pretty getting drained with their materials and their supplies and everything.

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So we were really running the issues there. They said they could make pulled pork sandwiches,

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but they just didn't have buns to put the pulled pork on. So so I had to run all the way to border

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and pick up 600 buns that come back to make pull pork sandwiches to deliver to the crews.

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And so, but United would never tell me no. And money can arts the general manager up there.

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And he's really involved in the community so I just really want to give him some recognition

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because he really deserves it. Okay, the thing that there's a lot of great stories that came out of this

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and I'm on the PR side. You know, the red cross went up there and delivered

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01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:38,240
MRE's and waters. They went to Higgins. They went to Darzett and hand them out to the other community.

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But the thing that really caught my attention was the community of Perikton. I had several ladies

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01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:50,880
call asking what they can do. How can they help? Can we make dinner? Can we sandwich his coax? What can we do for

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01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:56,960
the law? Can we make desserts? And I told him that we're pretty much providing dinners that dessert might be a

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01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,920
great idea. And so the first night.

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That the ladies just communicated through Facebook, and it took off. I have people all day long,

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01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:14,000
bringing desserts, pies, cakes, pumpkin rolls out here. And you can see, this is where the linemen, I'll get to a dessert.

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Well, there's a dessert, there's a middle one, the bottom one. That's pretty much the dessert table.

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That first night, it goes about six tables and it's plump full. We had that amount, double that in the kitchen.

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The next night, the radio station started broadcasting in, come out, show your support for the linemen.

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They're there at 630, bring desserts, come out. And so the rest of the four nights we had eight tables of desserts,

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and what to see is a full table. We had four times that in the kitchen, each night.

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Lime and were taken pies and pumpkin rolls and everything back to the room.

739
01:15:50,000 --> 01:16:00,000
But they were really thankful. And what was great about this is that about 40 or 50 people in the community came out and delivered this dessert to the linemen.

740
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:06,000
Personally, they wanted to serve them. They wanted to mingle with them. They went through the crowd, talked with them.

741
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:11,000
Some local pastors actually came out, got them in a group and prayed for their safety.

742
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:17,000
They just really wanted to be involved and show them how to push it and they really were.

743
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:21,000
Some other things that took place is that they had high school kids coming out.

744
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:25,000
High school kids came out and worked shifts. They would serve the linemen and work the serving lines.

745
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:35,000
They'd also go around and serve them. And then you can see the bottom left picture that is one little girl scout that came out and gave girl scout cookies to the guys.

746
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:39,000
And I'm trying to find that little girl because I'm going to give some kind of recognition to her.

747
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:43,000
But she gave them out. She gave them out a whole box at a time.

748
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:49,000
I don't know who funded that, but we're going to try to take care of that little girl.

749
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:55,000
But here's just a serving line. So you can see we had two lines going both ways.

750
01:16:55,000 --> 01:17:03,000
And this is the dessert line. These are some of the volunteer workers in the community. Those two ladies right there were there all four nights.

751
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:07,000
And they stayed there, helped me clean up, even helped me put up the thousand plus chairs and tables.

752
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:11,000
I finally had to stop and make them go home. And I told my come back the next morning.

753
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:15,000
But they just, if we're just real appreciative and they just really wanted to show.

754
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:21,000
They really, but here's the great thing about this. Most of the people there were there were out of power still.

755
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:25,000
So they weren't upset. They didn't have any power at home. So they had nothing better to do.

756
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:29,000
But they come up and serve the guys preparing their facilities.

757
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:35,000
This is, the elementary schools in Peritin was really great because what they did,

758
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:39,000
all the classes made little posters and signs like this.

759
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:43,000
And then they came up, the teachers did. They posted them all around the expo building.

760
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,000
They actually put them on all the tables.

761
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:49,000
To where, as alumni meet, and they could sit there and be reading them. So we thought that was really neat.

762
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:53,000
And then this right here is a thank you sign on the back of a pizza box.

763
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:57,000
We found this in Spiriman near some of our down power lines and we just take two offends.

764
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,000
We don't know who put it up there.

765
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:03,000
But you saw little things like this all over the place and thank you.

766
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:05,000
And we really appreciate you guys coming out.

767
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,000
And then they'd be on the side of the road.

768
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:11,000
I remember when we finally closed it on Higgins and got power restored.

769
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,000
As the crews were leaving town, porch lights are on now.

770
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:15,000
Because they went out at night.

771
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:19,000
And so they're all in the front porch, waving it all the lime.

772
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,000
It was a great moment. It really was.

773
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:29,000
And finally, the great thing about this was we had lime and come from all over.

774
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,000
We had lime and come from Tennessee.

775
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,000
They travel all over the states.

776
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:35,000
And we had one lime and it came up.

777
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:37,000
And he said he's been doing this 30 plus years.

778
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:39,000
He's traveled all over the United States doing storm breaks.

779
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:43,000
And he said, I've never received the recognition.

780
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:47,000
And thank you like this, like I received from Perry Den.

781
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,000
And we thought that was pretty good. He said he's been doing it for a while.

782
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:53,000
And so I just want to say the community Perry didn't really win above and beyond.

783
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:57,000
And represent the Texas State and I know really well.

784
01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:59,000
And that is it.

785
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:01,000
Got any questions?

786
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,000
Well, I want to say it.

787
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,000
And I hope other council members are joining me.

788
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:15,000
Thank you. The partnership, even though you are a utility and your monopoly,

789
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,000
I couldn't ask.

790
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,000
We want to recognize that.

791
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,000
They know that and we know that.

792
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:29,000
But they could not be a better partner for our whole community for our citizens.

793
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:39,000
If we took the volunteer F hours out of United Way and Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts and everything else that those employees provide,

794
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:41,000
we wouldn't get anything done around this town.

795
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:43,000
So I want to say more than just the power you supply.

796
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:47,000
It's the people that make the difference in this town and in their community.

797
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:49,000
Thank you.

798
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:51,000
Thank you very much.

799
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,000
Thank you.

800
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,000
Well done. Thank you.

801
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,000
So we don't West Rees. How come you don't get introduced?

802
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:05,000
Everybody knows you.

803
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,000
Everybody knows West Rees.

804
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:09,000
So wait a second.

805
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,000
Everybody that was involved in this process.

806
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:13,000
Would you please stand?

807
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,000
Employees of Excel.

808
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,000
Retired employees of Excel.

809
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:18,000
Come on.

810
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:19,000
I'm seeing them.

811
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:21,000
So you're going to be back.

812
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:23,000
Thank you.

813
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:25,000
Thank you all very much.

814
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:26,000
Thank you.

815
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:27,000
Thank you.

816
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:42,000
Well, we will then go to the meeting business and the first item of business is the approval

817
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:47,000
of the City Council minutes from the regularly held meeting on January 24th, 2017.

818
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:51,000
Are there any additions or corrections to the minutes is presented?

819
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:53,000
Not an entertainer motion.

820
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:57,000
We approve the minutes is written.

821
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:58,000
Second.

822
01:20:58,000 --> 01:20:59,000
We have a motion.

823
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:01,000
The second for the minutes is written.

824
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:03,000
All those in favor please signify by saying aye.

825
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:04,000
Aye.

826
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:05,000
Opposed.

827
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:06,000
Abstention.

828
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,000
That passes with a 50 vote.

829
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:13,000
The next item is presentation and consideration of ordinance number 7650.

830
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:15,000
This is the first reading of an ordinance.

831
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:17,000
Resoning of a lot.

832
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:22,000
The third of that.

833
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:25,000
This is a.

834
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:27,000
Seven.

835
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:28,000
Block.

836
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:31,000
One forty one, garden and sandborn addition.

837
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:33,000
Section 169.

838
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:35,000
Block.

839
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:38,000
2.

840
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:41,000
ABINEM Survey Powder County.

841
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:42,000
Texas.

842
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:45,000
Plus 1.5 of our Founding streets all these in public ways to change from Light.

843
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,000
would we get a presentation?

844
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:48,000
Good evening.

845
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:49,000
Thanks, AJ.

846
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:55,320
So as required by State Law, we notified everyone within 200 feet of the subject request

847
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:57,520
according to the appraisal district records.

848
01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,520
That was a total 13 notices.

849
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:05,080
We did not receive any responses either in favor or in opposition to this request.

850
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:09,640
Here's a photo of the property as it exists within our current zoning map.

851
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:13,360
Again, the current zoning is industrial one zoning.

852
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:15,360
This is located in Central San Angelo.

853
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:16,360
I'm sorry.

854
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:17,360
Amarillo.

855
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:19,360
I knew that was going to happen at some point.

856
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:20,360
Forgive me.

857
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:22,360
This is within the North Heights neighborhood.

858
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:29,360
So we'll talk about how this relates to the North Heights neighborhood plan in just a moment.

859
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:32,360
A few photographs of the property that were included in your background packet.

860
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:35,360
This is looking north on Madison Street.

861
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:39,360
As you can tell by the photograph, it has developed as a residential area,

862
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:42,360
although the underlying zoning is industrial in nature.

863
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:46,360
The industrial zoning actually dates back to when the subdivision was originally platted

864
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:50,360
and predates most of the development within this area.

865
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:56,360
Same as true if you're looking west from that intersection of Madison with third avenue.

866
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:58,360
Again, this is all industrial zoning.

867
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:01,360
Although again, it has developed with some residential uses.

868
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:03,360
There's a park there as well.

869
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,360
This is looking from Madison in fourth.

870
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:11,360
This is where the manufactured, I'm sorry, the multi-family zoning district actually begins.

871
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:17,360
And continues to move into the background of this photograph as well as looking the other direction,

872
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:18,360
looking west.

873
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:23,360
If you look down the photo, the street in this photo to the left.

874
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:27,360
That's the same industrial zoning into the right side of the street.

875
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:31,360
Again, is the border of that multi-family district.

876
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:35,360
So this is an excerpt from the city's comprehensive plan.

877
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:39,360
This is the future land use and character map component that we talk about at every meeting.

878
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:43,360
And this is a consistent request with the future land use plan,

879
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:48,360
which calls for this entire area to be zoned in a general residential type of character,

880
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:51,360
which is consistent again with the development that's occurred there.

881
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:55,360
So I'm looking at this, we looked at the compliance with the existing zoning ordinance,

882
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:58,360
which you all have adopted in early 2000s.

883
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:02,360
It does talk about transitions in this zoning district document.

884
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:08,360
As we have seen through the historic development of this area,

885
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:13,360
the transitions are somewhat at odds with what the future land use plan calls for.

886
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:16,360
Again, it's calling for a very industrial type of character,

887
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:21,360
but has developed as anything bad and is a very residential and major.

888
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:25,360
So because there are no reasonable transitions that we would like to see in place,

889
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:32,360
this doesn't exacerbate the issue, it's really addressing an issue that has existed for quite some time.

890
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:37,360
It is consistent, of course, with that idea of having residential development near a park.

891
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:41,360
And it is, of course, consistent with the plating configuration of this area,

892
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:45,360
which, as I mentioned, has been in place for quite some time,

893
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:51,360
and is plated in a way that is, especially conducive to residential development.

894
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:54,360
I mentioned the North Heights plan, just a moment ago,

895
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:58,360
and again, that was adopted by you all as a group just last month.

896
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:04,360
And you might recall that there was a page in that document that talked about future guiding principles for land use.

897
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:09,360
And so as this is, the first is on change we've had come into us in this area.

898
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:14,360
The first thing we did is a staff was to sit down and evaluate it as it pertain to those guiding principles,

899
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:18,360
which you now have adopted and we will carry out and looking at each and every application.

900
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:25,360
So not all are applicable, but there are a few key principles in there that are applicable and do support this application.

901
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:29,360
One is making sure that we plan for an adequate and adverse supply of housing.

902
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:33,360
This, of course, opens that up and allows for some additional housing in the area.

903
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:37,360
The discouraging of intense uses adjacent to residential areas.

904
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:40,360
Again, although the area is developed, residential is not zone to such.

905
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:44,360
And so the starts is down the road of really making sure that the zoning in the area.

906
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:47,360
And the development of the area are in sync.

907
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:49,360
So again, supports the application.

908
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:54,360
And then lastly, it talks about the importance of trying to encourage and fill development in this neighborhood.

909
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:58,360
And this zoning application would again take us down that road.

910
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:05,360
As I mentioned, just a moment ago, it is in keeping with the general residential land use that the future land use.

911
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:12,360
Plain calls for and it is also something that is in keeping with the residential area character of this area.

912
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:16,360
And as I mentioned, also creating in fill possibilities.

913
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:24,360
So if that, the city staff recommends approval of the request of the plain and zoning commission unanimously recommended approval as well at their most recent hearing.

914
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:27,360
And if you have any questions, we can address those now.

915
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:28,360
Absolutely have any questions.

916
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:32,360
I just have one about just a little bit about process on this one.

917
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:36,360
So I know that we've asked in the past for the minutes of the planning and zoning commission.

918
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:43,360
And we have the minutes, but there are minutes from earlier meeting in January, not the minutes to talk about this.

919
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:47,360
Is it because the time is too compressed to get the minutes.

920
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:48,360
Yes.

921
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:53,360
And we're actually trying to change our internal processes in a way that we'll better accommodate that.

922
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:58,360
Also, exert those minutes for you that are relevant to the case and you're not having to shift through all of them to finally you're looking for.

923
01:26:58,360 --> 01:26:59,360
Oh, that would be correct.

924
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:01,360
So it's a known issue that we're currently working on that.

925
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:02,360
So my apologies.

926
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:08,360
I can tell you at the planning and zoning commission level because you may have been looking for what the conversation essentially was.

927
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:13,360
There was some conversation about it being and keeping with the North Heights plan.

928
01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:21,360
That seemed to be from our observations the biggest focus for the commissioners and we didn't have any public comment.

929
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:25,360
We didn't really have any discussion amongst the folks on the dias.

930
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:29,360
It was really is this in keeping with what we just went through what we just approved.

931
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:30,360
Okay.

932
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:33,360
And those would be draft minutes not approved by that group yet.

933
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:34,360
That is true.

934
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:37,360
Yeah, because they hadn't haven't met to approve those minutes.

935
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:40,360
They could be presenting draft minutes but not approved yet.

936
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:45,360
AJ, it's zone blight industrial and it looks like it's mainly housing.

937
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:51,360
It's somebody still come in there and operate under a light industrial zoning and build a shop or things that are qualified.

938
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:57,360
Absolutely true and and so a large part of that North Heights plan focuses on us being more proactive.

939
01:27:57,360 --> 01:28:00,360
And trying to make sure that we give the protections to that area.

940
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:04,360
That means because it developed in a way that was out of context.

941
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:05,360
Mr. Mr. Mayan.

942
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:06,360
Yes.

943
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:09,360
The council I would like to speak to this just before.

944
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:12,360
Giving a wholesale endorsement of this.

945
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:15,360
Could you go back a couple of pictures because I want to show the council something.

946
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:18,360
It's an opportunity for us to go back to the picture.

947
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:20,360
Yes, there.

948
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:27,360
This is really important because it gives us an opportunity to to thank the building safety.

949
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:35,360
And and and the tremendous job that Bob Cowell has has introduced.

950
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:39,360
If you wanted to see that house where the.

951
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:41,360
Put on my glasses.

952
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:43,360
Where the.

953
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:45,360
What colors that car.

954
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:48,360
Where the burgundy car is.

955
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:53,360
That is a that is a resident where last summer.

956
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:55,360
Uh.

957
01:28:55,360 --> 01:29:01,360
Bill and safety was here and there was an initial discussion about tearing that house down.

958
01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:08,360
The young man I believe that's the house came and ask to work with building safety building safety.

959
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:11,360
Worked with him and that is the results today.

960
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:16,360
So that is a great partnership where the city worked with a.

961
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:21,360
An individual in a low income area.

962
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:24,360
And was able to salvage that house.

963
01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:28,360
Secondly, I want to say that I think that this is a tremendous job.

964
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:29,360
Thank you.

965
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:36,360
AJ because property values over here lots are about 300 dollars per lot.

966
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:40,360
And so pro councils have useful just right.

967
01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:45,360
Council member Berke because pro councils have been less.

968
01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:47,360
Vigilant.

969
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:48,360
Where this.

970
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:52,360
But's up against what at one time was a a.

971
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:56,360
The building neighborhood industrial.

972
01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:59,360
Businesses have now come in and infiltrated.

973
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:23,000
That area because it's cheap land. And so it's not uncommon if you were to go to this area of our community to see industrial buildings, including paint, paint shops, right next to a residential structure. So this begins that process.

974
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:37,000
And I want to thank the both the staff and this council in taking a long range plan to approach and trying to increase now the viability of nature.

975
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:42,000
And Mr. Mayor, if you would, I would like to offer a motion if that's in order at this time.

976
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:48,000
That we would approve this ordinance number 7650.

977
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,000
We have a second. Second.

978
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:57,000
Postion of a second, any discussion from the council? Other than what we've heard, any discussion from the audience?

979
01:30:57,000 --> 01:31:00,000
All those in favor, please signify by saying aye.

980
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:01,000
Aye.

981
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:03,000
Opposed.

982
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:06,000
Abstensions that passes with a 50 vote.

983
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:13,000
The next item is presentation, consideration, ordinance number 7651. This is the first reading of an ordinance,

984
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:21,000
which is rezoning of a lot five block eight fair view town site unit number one, section 123 block two.

985
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:36,000
A being in serve a Potter County Texas plus one half of all bounding streets, alleys and public ways to change from residential district three to residential district three with a specific use permit for the placement of a type B manufactured home.

986
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:41,000
A city of South East, sixth Avenue and South Dallas Street.

987
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:43,000
AJ, would you present this please.

988
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:44,000
Thank you.

989
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:50,000
As this typical, you've seen many of these, this year, these specific use permits for manufactured homes.

990
01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:54,000
Just a reminder that we do have various classifications of the types.

991
01:31:54,000 --> 01:32:00,000
And in this particular case, there was some, I think, confusion if you just skimmed through the reports.

992
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:06,000
I just want to clarify our type B manufactured homes are no older than 1976.

993
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:11,000
They're required to be manufactured at least six years prior to the year of installation.

994
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:17,000
In this zoning district, a type C manufactured home, which is a brand new manufactured home is allowed by right.

995
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:20,000
However, there is a minimum width to which that applies.

996
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:23,000
And this particular home is not a double wide width.

997
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:26,000
So the specific use permit is required even though it is brand air.

998
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:27,000
Okay, thank you.

999
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:28,000
I'd like to question your ass off.

1000
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:29,000
Thank you.

1001
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:30,000
Okay.

1002
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:33,000
So in accordance with this, we sent out 20 different notices.

1003
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:36,000
We did not receive any responses in favor or in opposition.

1004
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:41,000
And again, this was recommended unanimously for approval by the planning and zoning commission at their meeting.

1005
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:43,000
This is a subject property.

1006
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:45,000
This is just east of central Amirlo.

1007
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:49,000
It is located in a quite large residential three district.

1008
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:51,000
As you can see, the brown area there.

1009
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:53,000
It's pretty close to the center.

1010
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:57,000
And there are a number of these specific use permits which have been approved in this area.

1011
01:32:57,000 --> 01:33:01,000
And we'll go through those in just a moment after we look at some photographs.

1012
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:08,000
So this is actually the subject property that we're looking at here facing the property from South Dallas Street.

1013
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:10,000
And these are some pictures of the surrounding area.

1014
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:13,000
So this is looking turning and looking north up Dallas.

1015
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:19,000
You can see again some residences in that area as well as some manufactured in mobile homes in the area.

1016
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:25,000
As we turn and look west down South Dallas, this is actually looking just across the street from the subject property.

1017
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:31,000
And again, you do see some continuation of that residential character and looking south more of the same.

1018
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:34,000
So it is quite a large established neighborhood.

1019
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:38,000
There are a few specific use permits that you've approved in the past.

1020
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:40,000
This is number 161.

1021
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:44,000
And this is just north of that subject property on the same street.

1022
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:49,000
This is looking just south, that's a specific use permit 171.

1023
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:54,000
And then one street over on spring street, a specific use permit 179.

1024
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:59,000
So there is quite precedent for this type of development in the area.

1025
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:09,000
This again is the excerpt from the future land use in character map, which calls for this area to be general residential, which is quite consistent with how it originally developed and how it exists today.

1026
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:12,000
And this would not compromise that in any way.

1027
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:17,000
I mentioned the differences between the types of manufactured homes at the beginning of the presentation.

1028
01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:21,000
There are some specific standards, which are required for these types.

1029
01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:30,000
And that is verified through the submission of a site plan as part of this application, which we reviewed and it does mean all of the acquired standards.

1030
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:35,000
It is consistent with other approvals that you and previous councils have made in the vicinity of the area.

1031
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:45,000
And it is also consistent with that neighborhood unit concept that we talk about often as well as with this concept of having a variety in various types of housing within the neighborhood.

1032
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:52,000
So based on all of these factors, this is staff does recommend approval as well as the planning and zoning commission.

1033
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:57,000
And if you have any questions, we can address those.

1034
01:34:57,000 --> 01:35:00,000
Questions from council. Well presented.

1035
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:01,000
Thank you.

1036
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:03,000
I entertain a motion.

1037
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:07,000
May I move the approval ordinance numbers 7651.

1038
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:08,000
Second.

1039
01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:11,000
The motion and the second discussion from the council.

1040
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:14,000
From the audience.

1041
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:17,000
All those in favor, please signify by saying aye.

1042
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:18,000
Aye.

1043
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:19,000
Opposed.

1044
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:20,000
Abstentions.

1045
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:22,000
That passes with a 50 vote.

1046
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:23,000
Thank you, AJ.

1047
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:27,000
The next item is a resolution support of canyons.

1048
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:32,000
T.C.L.L.C. application for housing tax credit.

1049
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:34,000
Oh, I missed one.

1050
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:35,000
Excuse me.

1051
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:36,000
Presentation.

1052
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:37,000
Don't go away.

1053
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:38,000
AJ.

1054
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:39,000
I know you're trying to get rid of it.

1055
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:40,000
I'm sorry.

1056
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:42,000
I apologize for using.

1057
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:47,000
Presentation and consideration of ordinance number 7652.

1058
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:50,000
This is the first reading of an ordinance rezoning of lots.

1059
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:51,000
Five.

1060
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:52,000
Five.

1061
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:53,000
Dash.

1062
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:54,000
Eight.

1063
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:55,000
Block.

1064
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:56,000
Four.

1065
01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:57,000
Nine.

1066
01:35:57,000 --> 01:35:59,000
Four.

1067
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:00,000
Mirror.

1068
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:01,000
Addition.

1069
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:02,000
Unit number.

1070
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:05,000
One.

1071
01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:06,000
Section.

1072
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:07,000
Five.

1073
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:09,000
Block.

1074
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:11,000
Two.

1075
01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:12,000
A.B.N.M. survey.

1076
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:13,000
Potter County.

1077
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:14,000
Texas.

1078
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:15,000
Plus.

1079
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:16,000
One.

1080
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:17,000
Half of all.

1081
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:18,000
Bounding.

1082
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:22,000
So, in this request, we were required to send out 10 notices.

1083
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:28,000
We did receive one call once we went through the process and answer the questions that

1084
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:31,000
Individual that called in had no opposition to the request.

1085
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:36,000
At the planning zoning hearing, there were three folks that came in spoke one in favor.

1086
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:42,000
And then we had two speakers that stated that they were not opposed to it, but had some questions and concerns.

1087
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:45,000
And so those were answered throughout the course of the meeting as well.

1088
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:48,000
So, this is the subject property.

1089
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:51,000
Again, this is very close proximity to the other areas.

1090
01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:55,000
We've looked at already today in central Amirillo.

1091
01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:58,000
And this is actually located just north of the interstate.

1092
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:05,000
So, as you can see, it's on the border between a very large heavy commercial zoning district, which we've researched.

1093
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:09,000
And that has actually existed as far back as the 1940s.

1094
01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:13,000
And the next to it is a residential three zoning districts.

1095
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:22,000
Again, probably not an ideal situation, but nonetheless, the situation that we face today as the current zoning has been in place for quite some time.

1096
01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:26,000
So, a few photographs, this is looking at the subject property.

1097
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:31,000
This is looking from the right of way for Houston street and so you can see the interstate there to the left.

1098
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:36,000
And just behind the subject property, you can see a metal building in a sign.

1099
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:42,000
Those are on properties that are already zoned the heavy commercial for which the applicant is seeking today on his property.

1100
01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:50,000
If you turn in look east from Houston street, this is nearby church, and there again is the access road for the interstate.

1101
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:56,000
Looking north, again from Houston street in the intersection with the interstate.

1102
01:37:56,000 --> 01:38:01,000
This is the section of the area that is zoned for our three residential zoning.

1103
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:08,000
And you can see that there is a park there on the right hand side of this street, and there are some houses there to the left.

1104
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:12,000
And then this is looking southwest and again you're seeing the interstate there in place.

1105
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:24,000
So the future land use and character map for this area does call for these lots that we're seeking consideration of today to be zoned in a way that is consistent with the general commercial character.

1106
01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:28,000
And so that does support the application as it was filed.

1107
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:33,000
Of course, we also again looked at this in compliance with the zoning ordinance.

1108
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:43,000
It is a logical continuation of the pattern that is there in place. Again, there is a very large heavy commercial zoning district there, and this would be a small extension of that zoning district.

1109
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:54,000
Does not provide an ideal transition. However, this lack of transition is very similar with the first case that we heard today really isn't present even at this time.

1110
01:38:55,000 --> 01:39:04,000
The city's comprehensive plan talks about this general commercial character and it advises that that type of heavier intensity.

1111
01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:12,000
Can't be broken up by using things such as landscaping and landscaping requirements would in fact apply to these lots so that will be addressed.

1112
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:18,000
There are some changing conditions in the area, although they don't seem quite recent in the history of the area.

1113
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:26,000
They are fairly recent and that is the incorporation of the interstate all of the zoning which is in place in this area predates that.

1114
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:32,000
And many of the lots as well as the development of those lots also predates this.

1115
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:40,000
The traffic in this area again with the proximity of the access road is already very commercial in nature.

1116
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:48,000
I mentioned the compliance with the comprehensive plan. We also, again, mentioned future menus component in your report.

1117
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:54,000
We elaborate a little bit more about the general commercial land use, but it does support the application.

1118
01:39:54,000 --> 01:40:04,000
And so based on all of these factors, both the staff as well as the unanimous vote of the planning and zoning commission are to recommend approval as presented.

1119
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:06,000
Yes, please.

1120
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:12,000
The single family residences that are located just north of there are lots one two three and four.

1121
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:14,000
They didn't have a problem with it.

1122
01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:24,000
We did not receive anything in writing and we just had those three comments that we had one that was very much in favor and two that we would just classify as neutral because it was more fact findings.

1123
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:27,000
So we didn't have anyone indicate that they were in opposition.

1124
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:29,000
Okay, thank you.

1125
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:31,000
Any other questions?

1126
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:33,000
Very good.

1127
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:34,000
Thank you.

1128
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:35,000
I'd entertain a motion.

1129
01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:41,000
May I move we approve ordinance number 7652.

1130
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:46,000
Second, the motion in a second, you just touched him from the council.

1131
01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:49,000
You just touched him from the audience.

1132
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:53,000
All those in favor please signify by saying aye aye.

1133
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:55,000
Opposed.

1134
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:56,000
Abstensions.

1135
01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:58,000
That passes with a five o vote.

1136
01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:01,000
Now we move on to the resolution.

1137
01:41:01,000 --> 01:41:07,000
Resolution supporting of canyons TCLLC application for housing tax credit.

1138
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:20,000
This resolution is support for an application for affordable housing from the Texas Department of Housing Community Affairs Housing tax credit program by canyons TCLLC.

1139
01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:33,000
Canyons at 40 at canyons at 45th West, a development of affordable rental property located at 4101 Southwest 45th Avenue.

1140
01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:39,000
Mayor and council just to kind of refresh everyone's memory about this time last year.

1141
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:49,000
You recall we had several presentations from folks that were seeking the same resolution or resolution like this to pursue these tax credits at the state level at that time.

1142
01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:59,000
We ultimately were asking them to come in and make the presentation to you all and our recommendation was that you need forward unless you had opposition to it.

1143
01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:03,000
The support for all of those projects we are intending the same here.

1144
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:18,000
There are there are there are three projects here two different applicants and I'd like if it's all right I'd like to have James Allen explain kind of the difference between the two different types because in this case actually they're not competing with the same.

1145
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:23,000
And then we'll hand it off to the applicants.

1146
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:26,000
Mayor council.

1147
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:36,000
We have you have before you three different projects but the first one is something that we have not had an emerald before.

1148
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:42,000
It's utilizing 4% tax credits from the Texas Department of Housing Community Affairs.

1149
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:57,000
In this is for rehabilitation not new constructs or rehabilitation of an existing property here in emerald an apartment complex that consists of 328 units currently to make that entire complex affordable housing.

1150
01:42:57,000 --> 01:43:08,000
This project not only meets the Texas Department of Housing and Community Affairs standards it also aligns very well with the emerald blueprint for strategies.

1151
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:16,000
As well as HUD's requirements through our five year consolidated plan for the city of emerald to advance affordable housing.

1152
01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:33,000
So based upon those strategies we would recommend funding and I can certainly answer any questions but Scott Pickett from post investment group is here to make a presentation for you considering this particular project then I'll come back and talk to you about the other two.

1153
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:35,000
Please.

1154
01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:40,000
Welcome sir.

1155
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:48,000
Thank you James. Mayor and council I greatly appreciate you guys taking the time to entertain this project we are putting forth.

1156
01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:54,000
I've worked with James and he and his team have been phenomenal and extremely helpful.

1157
01:43:54,000 --> 01:44:00,000
We are seeking a resolution of no objection to convert a market rate property to affordable housing.

1158
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:06,000
Canons at 40 fifths west is currently does not have any restrictions in place.

1159
01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:20,000
The properties 80% occupied is owned by a group of investors who we previously sold a property to and have been unable to maintain the capital need to the property and keep it up to date.

1160
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:34,000
So what we are proposing and have negotiated with him is to purchase the property and renovate the property with federal tax credits and as a result we will need to put rental restrictions.

1161
01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:40,000
So the benefits to emerald is one it increases the affordable housing stock.

1162
01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:50,000
Two utilizes and I think maximizes the existing use of a property so we're not coming in and developing a whole new property we're taking an existing property.

1163
01:44:50,000 --> 01:45:00,000
Putting about 35 thousand dollars a unit in it to renovate it and in the hopes create a safe quality affordable housing property.

1164
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:13,000
In addition, the total projects, I apologize for the small font.

1165
01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:18,000
So a summary of the project is, it's currently 328 units, and we'll stay that way. It was built

1166
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:28,000
in 1974 and 1980, and has not received major capital upgrades since then. By obtaining federal tax credits,

1167
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:35,000
we'll be able to fully renovate this property. We anticipate the conversion to take approximately 18 months

1168
01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:39,000
for the construction to be completed, and subsequent lease up.

1169
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:46,000
One of the phenomenal assets with this project is, we have done a preliminary review

1170
01:45:46,000 --> 01:45:53,000
and approximately 75% of the existing tenants will qualify for affordable housing.

1171
01:45:53,000 --> 01:46:02,000
So 75% of these tenants will be able to get a relatively brand new unit that now has new roofs, new windows, new doors,

1172
01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:07,000
new interiors, flooring cabinets at a reduced rent.

1173
01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:17,000
The total cost of this project, hard cost for construction will be approximately $13 million.

1174
01:46:17,000 --> 01:46:23,000
And while you can't read my font, you can see, hopefully, those two photos.

1175
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:28,000
On the bottom left, you have an existing photo of Canis at 45th West.

1176
01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:33,000
And on the right, you have property that posts investment groups owns in Austin, Texas,

1177
01:46:33,000 --> 01:46:36,000
that is a loan-com housing tax credit for what property.

1178
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:39,000
And it is our goal to make that picture on the left.

1179
01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:45,000
Look like that picture on the right.

1180
01:46:45,000 --> 01:46:51,000
Quick summary of the renovation we will, as I said, we will be doing a full renovation.

1181
01:46:51,000 --> 01:47:01,000
Replacing the parking lot, new landscaping, new fencing, new roofs, new windows, new doors, new sighting, aesthetic upgrades.

1182
01:47:01,000 --> 01:47:08,000
So it kind of stone facade to upgrade the property and make it a bit more contemporary.

1183
01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:11,000
Full interior upgrades, new appliances.

1184
01:47:11,000 --> 01:47:19,000
And again, on the bottom, you can see, on the left, a photo of the existing kitchen at Canis at 45th.

1185
01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:27,000
And on the right, a representative photo of what we plan on converting it to.

1186
01:47:27,000 --> 01:47:32,000
More importantly, too, there will be a lot of efficiency upgrades to the property.

1187
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:37,000
So with the new appliances, these are all going to be energy star rated appliances.

1188
01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:42,000
All of the roofing and paint materials will be environmentally friendly materials.

1189
01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:50,000
You'll have low flow toilets installed, new water heaters and boilers that are infinitely more efficient,

1190
01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:57,000
as well as upgraded lighting systems that will be more energy efficient as well.

1191
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:02,000
Post investment group has done a number of projects like this.

1192
01:48:02,000 --> 01:48:11,000
We've done four ground up developments across the country, one in Little Rock, Arkansas, two in Colorado and one in Los Angeles.

1193
01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:20,000
We are based out of Los Angeles, but we also have a asset management and construction management team is headquartered in Dallas.

1194
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:24,000
And I know how much Texans enjoy listening to Californians.

1195
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:30,000
So I assure you that the majority of this was written by our Dallas employees.

1196
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:34,000
We own about 10,000 units across the country.

1197
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:37,000
A significant portion of those are affordable deals.

1198
01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:45,000
We have owned and operated 14 affordable housing projects and continue to look at ways to expand that.

1199
01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:50,000
Personally, I think there is a huge wage gap in this country.

1200
01:48:50,000 --> 01:49:06,000
And it's a common topic in the news and I think affordable housing creating safe affordable options is a phenomenal way to bridge that, you know, at any improvement is a good improvement.

1201
01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:13,000
On the last page, I have just a few more photos of some of the projects we have done.

1202
01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:19,000
On the top left, there's a photo of the HUD Finance project we did in Little Rock, Arkansas that we built from the ground up.

1203
01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:32,000
On the top right is a photo of our section 42 loan-gam housing tax credit property in Austin, Texas, which will have very similar has very similar restrictions as to what Kenyan's has.

1204
01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:47,000
Bottom left, a ground up development that we did in Denver, Colorado and then on the bottom right another section 42 loan-gam housing tax credit deal in Austin, Texas.

1205
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:56,000
Again, I truly think that renovating and existing asset is going to be a substantial boom to the surrounding area.

1206
01:49:56,000 --> 01:50:05,000
It should encourage additional apartment landlords to improve their property is a healthy competition.

1207
01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:15,000
I think we'll benefit all and we plan to keep disruption in the surrounding area minimized by renovating and existing asset.

1208
01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:20,000
So it shouldn't be too much of a change except for the tenants there.

1209
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:29,000
It will be a dramatic change and as you drive by, I think you'll notice a significant improvement.

1210
01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:31,000
That's my presentation.

1211
01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:39,000
So just not to disaffect my support of this one-hour order.

1212
01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:42,000
So you have 325 units.

1213
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:43,000
28.

1214
01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:44,000
328.

1215
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:45,000
Yes, sir.

1216
01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:47,000
My math was better at 325.

1217
01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:51,000
So 80% of the 80% occupied.

1218
01:50:51,000 --> 01:50:55,000
So 260 residents, that's currently there.

1219
01:50:55,000 --> 01:51:00,000
So you've done this before, will they all be required to move out?

1220
01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:02,000
No, no.

1221
01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:10,000
What we will plan on doing is with the units that are currently unoccupied, currently vacant.

1222
01:51:10,000 --> 01:51:13,000
We will renovate those first and move tenants.

1223
01:51:13,000 --> 01:51:18,000
The existing tenants that qualify from their unit to that property.

1224
01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:21,000
As we go through the construction or excuse me to those buildings.

1225
01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:28,000
Another alternative and we'll, as we're going through this, will be able to better gauge what we can do.

1226
01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:35,000
As you all the exterior renovations, and then a majority of the interior renovations,

1227
01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:43,000
and we'll need to have the tenants leave for a day and try to complete those units in one day.

1228
01:51:43,000 --> 01:51:47,000
But I think the more feasible is to move tenants.

1229
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:50,000
Finish three buildings that are vacant.

1230
01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:54,000
Move tenants from existing three buildings that are occupied into those.

1231
01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:55,000
Then start.

1232
01:51:55,000 --> 01:51:57,000
So there's, there will be some shuffling.

1233
01:51:57,000 --> 01:51:59,000
There's no doubt about that.

1234
01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:00,000
Shuffling, I don't mind.

1235
01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:02,000
But displace and focus.

1236
01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:03,000
No, yeah.

1237
01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:04,000
We will not be sorry.

1238
01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:05,000
Okay.

1239
01:52:05,000 --> 01:52:06,000
Okay.

1240
01:52:07,000 --> 01:52:12,000
How, you obviously rotate units every month anyway with people moving in and out.

1241
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:13,000
Tracts.

1242
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:14,000
Yeah.

1243
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:15,000
Okay.

1244
01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:18,000
Any other questions from the council?

1245
01:52:18,000 --> 01:52:19,000
I appreciate that question.

1246
01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:22,000
I was trying to figure out the map on that and see how many days it would take and you shuffle people.

1247
01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:25,000
And then what you do and how that affects your timeline.

1248
01:52:25,000 --> 01:52:26,000
But I got the just of it.

1249
01:52:26,000 --> 01:52:27,000
Okay.

1250
01:52:27,000 --> 01:52:29,000
And minimal disruption is really important.

1251
01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:33,000
I think that applied both to the tenants and the surrounding area, which you clarified at the end.

1252
01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:35,000
Because it's a busy road.

1253
01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:36,000
Yeah.

1254
01:52:36,000 --> 01:52:37,000
I'm out there.

1255
01:52:37,000 --> 01:52:38,000
So, great.

1256
01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:39,000
It looks beautiful.

1257
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:40,000
Fantastic.

1258
01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:41,000
Thank you.

1259
01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:43,000
And also, yes, James and the team are quite great.

1260
01:52:43,000 --> 01:52:44,000
They are.

1261
01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:45,000
They've been a pleasure to work with.

1262
01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:47,000
So the people would, that might have to move out.

1263
01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:49,000
But they just didn't qualify for them.

1264
01:52:49,000 --> 01:52:50,000
Correct.

1265
01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:51,000
Okay.

1266
01:52:51,000 --> 01:52:55,000
So we've looked at income qualifications in about 75%.

1267
01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:58,000
Based on their reported income.

1268
01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:04,000
And most of the time, people do not lie that their income is lower.

1269
01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:06,000
So there's a possibility that there may be more.

1270
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:08,000
No, I like everything except the font.

1271
01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:09,000
Yeah.

1272
01:53:09,000 --> 01:53:10,000
I apologize.

1273
01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:13,000
It's even with our handouts a little difficult.

1274
01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:16,000
So we're right in here, Western and 45.

1275
01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:18,000
But a little bit east of that.

1276
01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:20,000
And we're on the south side of the street.

1277
01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:21,000
Yes.

1278
01:53:21,000 --> 01:53:22,000
Okay.

1279
01:53:22,000 --> 01:53:23,000
Thank you.

1280
01:53:23,000 --> 01:53:25,000
So just so you hear it from me.

1281
01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:29,000
Because these amorello values are, we value people.

1282
01:53:29,000 --> 01:53:36,000
And so at the end of the day, you know, my hope and my expectation is that you will keep your promise

1283
01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:38,000
that folk are not going to be displaced.

1284
01:53:38,000 --> 01:53:42,000
And inhumane, inhumane manner.

1285
01:53:42,000 --> 01:53:45,000
But that there will be this effort.

1286
01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:47,000
You know, I know it's about the dollars.

1287
01:53:47,000 --> 01:53:50,000
But for me, it's about the people.

1288
01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:51,000
Okay.

1289
01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:52,000
Absolutely.

1290
01:53:52,000 --> 01:53:53,000
100%.

1291
01:53:53,000 --> 01:53:54,000
Couldn't, couldn't agree more.

1292
01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:58,000
Well, and I think you also honoring those things that you've promised.

1293
01:53:58,000 --> 01:54:00,000
Really improved the lives of a lot of those folks.

1294
01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:06,000
If this has been updated since 74 to 80, it's obviously a need.

1295
01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:07,000
It needs a little love.

1296
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:09,000
There is doubt about that.

1297
01:54:09,000 --> 01:54:10,000
So good.

1298
01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:11,000
Good.

1299
01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:12,000
Thank you for the presentation.

1300
01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:13,000
Any other comments from council?

1301
01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:16,000
Any questions from the audience?

1302
01:54:16,000 --> 01:54:18,000
Is there any of the part of this presentation?

1303
01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:19,000
Very well.

1304
01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:20,000
One question.

1305
01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:24,000
I mean, my name is Melody Malay.

1306
01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:26,000
I live in emeralone.

1307
01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:28,000
Post office box five out of two.

1308
01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:31,000
Sir, if you, or ma'am, if you'd give us a straight address, please.

1309
01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:33,000
79 11 thinly drop.

1310
01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:34,000
Thank you very much.

1311
01:54:34,000 --> 01:54:39,000
I don't know if I misunderstood you, but you said 75% are qualified.

1312
01:54:39,000 --> 01:54:42,000
What about the other 25% that aren't qualified?

1313
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:44,000
Or they could be allowed to stay?

1314
01:54:44,000 --> 01:54:46,000
Or will they be asked to leave?

1315
01:54:46,000 --> 01:54:47,000
No.

1316
01:54:47,000 --> 01:54:52,000
They will be asked to leave, but we will have to compensate them.

1317
01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:56,000
And help them assist them with finding new units.

1318
01:54:56,000 --> 01:54:59,000
And help them with the rest.

1319
01:54:59,000 --> 01:55:00,000
Time in.

1320
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:03,000
So any tenants that do not qualify?

1321
01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:09,000
We have a budget in place to assist them with any moving needs.

1322
01:55:09,000 --> 01:55:15,000
Moving them to new units, and we will obviously have to help them find new housing options.

1323
01:55:15,000 --> 01:55:20,000
Well, we kind of begs a question if we're already low on low rental housing.

1324
01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:28,000
How they're going to be able to place their current unit with a equitable rent that's at that same price,

1325
01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:32,000
or well, or it seems like temporarily that might be funded.

1326
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:35,000
But it still puts them out in a higher, in my opinion.

1327
01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:39,000
It pits them out to look for it to try to match the current rent they're paying.

1328
01:55:39,000 --> 01:55:40,000
We have to clarify.

1329
01:55:40,000 --> 01:55:43,000
These are not affordable housing units today.

1330
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:46,000
That may help you with your question.

1331
01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:47,000
Understand.

1332
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:56,000
But I'm still concerned about the people that are currently paying low rent that are going to be put out on the market to try to match that 25%.

1333
01:55:56,000 --> 01:55:57,000
Yeah.

1334
01:55:57,000 --> 01:55:59,000
It's quite a few people.

1335
01:55:59,000 --> 01:56:02,000
And that concerns me.

1336
01:56:02,000 --> 01:56:05,000
So in response to that's a good question.

1337
01:56:05,000 --> 01:56:09,000
If you don't mind taking a seat while he's speaking.

1338
01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:14,000
We do have a large number in our budget.

1339
01:56:14,000 --> 01:56:18,000
And the TTHCA, the Texas Department of Housing and Community Affairs,

1340
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:21,000
who oversees tax credit developments,

1341
01:56:21,000 --> 01:56:28,000
enforces that you assist any tenants you're displacing in a situation like this financially.

1342
01:56:28,000 --> 01:56:37,000
So we are forced and must assist them in finding new apartments.

1343
01:56:37,000 --> 01:56:43,000
There are, you know, I think the vacancy rate in Amarillo is approximately 90%.

1344
01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:49,000
So I do think there are options that we will be able to assist them with.

1345
01:56:49,000 --> 01:56:52,000
But yeah, that is, that too is a concern of ours.

1346
01:56:52,000 --> 01:56:56,000
And something we will absolutely monitor and assist the tenants with.

1347
01:56:56,000 --> 01:56:57,000
Thank you.

1348
01:56:57,000 --> 01:57:00,000
Any other questions?

1349
01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:08,000
So James Gank, 62, 16 games, rural.

1350
01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:11,000
If you serve, you get that Scott, take your seat or take a seat.

1351
01:57:11,000 --> 01:57:13,000
Then we'll talk.

1352
01:57:13,000 --> 01:57:14,000
Okay.

1353
01:57:14,000 --> 01:57:17,000
Because my question is for him, the support.

1354
01:57:17,000 --> 01:57:18,000
What are we doing?

1355
01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:20,000
What does the city do?

1356
01:57:20,000 --> 01:57:23,000
This is a resolution for support of this.

1357
01:57:23,000 --> 01:57:26,000
It's helps with their application for the money.

1358
01:57:26,000 --> 01:57:32,000
Yeah, they get things that get points for several different things to be accomplished.

1359
01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:34,000
And one of those, and that makes them competitive.

1360
01:57:34,000 --> 01:57:38,000
And one of those points is a support and resolution support from the city.

1361
01:57:38,000 --> 01:57:42,000
That's why I literally know,

1362
01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:43,000
No, no, no, no.

1363
01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:44,000
There are a couple years of money.

1364
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:45,000
But no longer.

1365
01:57:45,000 --> 01:57:49,000
In tell two years ago, there was a requirement for monetary support.

1366
01:57:49,000 --> 01:57:53,000
No, you're still in the next two that there is a mononomenal,

1367
01:57:53,000 --> 01:57:59,000
nominal I mean I think we talked about like $50 kind of financial support as to meet check one of the other boxes

1368
01:57:59,000 --> 01:58:04,000
I don't know if that applies in this case with this that is not applying in this case with that program

1369
01:58:04,000 --> 01:58:06,000
So no, it's really just a resolution of support

1370
01:58:07,000 --> 01:58:10,000
The air conditioner is working in here. It's good

1371
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:19,000
Now that we're going through some changes because you know I mean I think even bin Carson is fixing to be in charge of this HUD

1372
01:58:20,000 --> 01:58:31,000
We realize there's some pullback on some of these in and these affordable housing which we've been bit by before

1373
01:58:32,000 --> 01:58:40,000
In some I'm not saying this is but there's situations there that get out of hand real quick

1374
01:58:40,000 --> 01:58:44,000
I think you want to be responsible about the accusations or statement you make sir

1375
01:58:44,000 --> 01:58:46,000
I am responsible

1376
01:58:46,000 --> 01:58:54,000
Because I've experienced it and we still experienced it here in town with some of the houses that have not been taken care of

1377
01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:59,000
And that's the reason those sorts of questions happen

1378
01:58:59,000 --> 01:59:03,000
Thank you. Thanks, Jeremy. Anyone else would like to comment

1379
01:59:03,000 --> 01:59:17,000
Jim Louter 6723 Emerald Court. My question is do we have any

1380
01:59:18,000 --> 01:59:23,000
There are a few good dress us please do not address the audience. Thank you.

1381
01:59:23,000 --> 01:59:27,000
We have testimonials from this vendor from the 25

1382
01:59:27,000 --> 01:59:34,000
From other people who've been ejected from previous projects that they were treated fairly and that they

1383
01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:36,000
If you take your seat we'll ask for an answer

1384
01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:46,000
So to clarify, tenants will not be ejected from our property

1385
01:59:46,000 --> 01:59:50,000
All tenants have a contractual lease that they have signed

1386
01:59:50,000 --> 01:59:55,000
Many of the tenants are on month to month leases many of the tenants are on one year leases

1387
01:59:55,000 --> 02:00:00,000
And all of those tenants are paying market rate rents

1388
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:18,000
The property is not in affordable property. So we will not be kicking out people that do not qualify. We will not be removing them from an affordable housing project. They will not be allowed to live in what in the future will be in affordable housing. They don't qualify.

1389
02:00:18,000 --> 02:00:30,000
So any tenants getting displaced currently pay market rent and will just have to go to another unit or property that charges market rents.

1390
02:00:30,000 --> 02:00:46,000
So we will not be kicking people out, but when their contractual lease ends, it may not be renewed. In regards to oversight of the property and maintaining it,

1391
02:00:46,000 --> 02:00:57,000
we have 30 years of restrictions that we need to comply with with the IRS and also the Texas Department of Housing and Community Affairs.

1392
02:00:57,000 --> 02:01:14,000
If, at any time, we do not abide by those. We could be liable to pay penalties and recaptures, which I assure you are CEO who personally guarantees those will make sure that does not occur.

1393
02:01:14,000 --> 02:01:27,000
But, but yes, I just, I do want to clarify that this is not currently in affordable property. So we will not be kicking out or removing any tenants who are currently in an affordable property.

1394
02:01:27,000 --> 02:01:36,000
They will once their, once their lease is up, it will just not be renewed and they will, we will assist them in finding housing elsewhere.

1395
02:01:36,000 --> 02:01:42,000
I want to clarification there, James, we are short of affordable housing, are we not?

1396
02:01:42,000 --> 02:01:51,000
Yes, we are extremely short. We've, through our department, we've grown about a third issue. We've had almost 400 assisted units this year.

1397
02:01:51,000 --> 02:02:03,000
And in fact, HUD is, they're strongly encouraging communities like ourselves to increase our affordable housing inventory and also meet the needs.

1398
02:02:03,000 --> 02:02:21,000
So at this point, not knowing what the future is, we still see the need tremendously for new affordable housing. So this would be possibly 300 units that our clients would be eligible to rent.

1399
02:02:21,000 --> 02:02:32,000
So that meets that need through the Texas Department of Housing Community Affairs. One of their goals is to increase opportunities for low-income persons to live throughout the entire community.

1400
02:02:32,000 --> 02:02:42,000
They would, they classify this as a high opportunity zone because it's near retail, it's near things that aren't traditionally in the low-to-moderate income neighborhood.

1401
02:02:42,000 --> 02:02:48,000
So it has benefits for the Texas Department of Housing Community Affairs as well as for our clients.

1402
02:02:48,000 --> 02:02:53,000
And there's no one else that's tried to revamp or redo this without any incentives.

1403
02:02:53,000 --> 02:02:57,000
Not on this major level. We've done much smaller rehabs, but nothing else.

1404
02:02:57,000 --> 02:03:05,000
Let me just say that I'm pleased with the presentation. I'm glad someone wants to invest in our community to help raise the standard of living for people that are in these houses.

1405
02:03:05,000 --> 02:03:10,000
I think it is incredibly good for the community. I know there's been good questions asked.

1406
02:03:10,000 --> 02:03:14,000
But my conclusion is this is very good for the community.

1407
02:03:14,000 --> 02:03:19,000
Is there any other questions?

1408
02:03:25,000 --> 02:03:30,000
Good afternoon. My name is Deb Bunsen, 3409 South-Rusk.

1409
02:03:30,000 --> 02:03:31,000
Thank you.

1410
02:03:31,000 --> 02:03:33,000
Just to get some clarification.

1411
02:03:33,000 --> 02:03:35,000
If you could please address us.

1412
02:03:35,000 --> 02:03:38,000
I know it's hard. You aren't here everyday. You need to learn.

1413
02:03:38,000 --> 02:03:39,000
This is a second time.

1414
02:03:39,000 --> 02:03:41,000
You need to take action. Thank you.

1415
02:03:42,000 --> 02:03:45,000
I have a question or some clarification.

1416
02:03:45,000 --> 02:03:53,000
One is my question about relocation of the residents that do not qualify for the slow income housing.

1417
02:03:53,000 --> 02:03:55,000
Are we going to monitor?

1418
02:03:55,000 --> 02:04:04,000
And I know this, but are we going to find out that this company is actually helping those that are being displaced?

1419
02:04:04,000 --> 02:04:08,000
And this company is going to pay for the relocation services.

1420
02:04:08,000 --> 02:04:13,000
Because at this point, it doesn't seem that these people are wanting to move.

1421
02:04:13,000 --> 02:04:16,000
We're going to pay for their utilities, any fees.

1422
02:04:16,000 --> 02:04:23,000
And then as a veteran, is this company or the council going to help out with the veterans that have no housing?

1423
02:04:23,000 --> 02:04:24,000
Thank you.

1424
02:04:24,000 --> 02:04:27,000
Well, I will answer the last part. This council.

1425
02:04:27,000 --> 02:04:30,000
This city has helped tremendously with the help of the VA.

1426
02:04:30,000 --> 02:04:32,000
And we have less.

1427
02:04:32,000 --> 02:04:36,000
We have about a hundred veterans that were homeless now in housing.

1428
02:04:36,000 --> 02:04:39,000
Because of efforts in combination with VA groups.

1429
02:04:39,000 --> 02:04:44,000
The VA itself and the work of our city staff to put these veterans in home.

1430
02:04:44,000 --> 02:04:46,000
So I'm very proud of what's happened.

1431
02:04:46,000 --> 02:04:48,000
There has been more help for this.

1432
02:04:48,000 --> 02:04:49,000
More recognition of it.

1433
02:04:49,000 --> 02:04:52,000
And it certainly raises a standard of a lot of veterans lives.

1434
02:04:52,000 --> 02:04:54,000
Some of it has come through another chance house.

1435
02:04:54,000 --> 02:04:56,000
Some have come through other agencies.

1436
02:04:56,000 --> 02:04:58,000
But we are well aware of that.

1437
02:04:58,000 --> 02:05:00,000
And would be well aware of this.

1438
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:04,000
Mr. Allen, would you just remark quickly.

1439
02:05:04,000 --> 02:05:05,000
We need to move on.

1440
02:05:05,000 --> 02:05:09,000
Would you remark quickly about how will monitor this to be sure that they do as they promised?

1441
02:05:09,000 --> 02:05:12,000
This is not actually an obligation of the city ram roll to monitor.

1442
02:05:12,000 --> 02:05:15,000
It would be for the Texas Department of Housing and the Community of the House.

1443
02:05:15,000 --> 02:05:16,000
Okay.

1444
02:05:16,000 --> 02:05:18,000
So they will be monitoring those requirements.

1445
02:05:18,000 --> 02:05:21,000
Because that's a very requirement for that assistance.

1446
02:05:21,000 --> 02:05:22,000
Right.

1447
02:05:22,000 --> 02:05:23,000
In the order.

1448
02:05:23,000 --> 02:05:24,000
Man, that answered your question.

1449
02:05:24,000 --> 02:05:25,000
Right.

1450
02:05:25,000 --> 02:05:26,000
Thank you.

1451
02:05:26,000 --> 02:05:28,000
Is there anyone else that would like to comment?

1452
02:05:28,000 --> 02:05:30,000
I call the question.

1453
02:05:30,000 --> 02:05:34,000
May I move that we approve the resolution and the support of King and TCLLC.

1454
02:05:34,000 --> 02:05:36,000
The application for the housing tax credits.

1455
02:05:36,000 --> 02:05:37,000
Second.

1456
02:05:37,000 --> 02:05:38,000
We have a motion.

1457
02:05:38,000 --> 02:05:39,000
And a second.

1458
02:05:39,000 --> 02:05:40,000
We've had discussion.

1459
02:05:40,000 --> 02:05:44,000
All those in favor please signify by saying aye.

1460
02:05:44,000 --> 02:05:45,000
Aye.

1461
02:05:45,000 --> 02:05:46,000
Any opposed?

1462
02:05:47,000 --> 02:05:48,000
Abstentions.

1463
02:05:48,000 --> 02:05:50,000
That passes with the five of them.

1464
02:05:50,000 --> 02:05:52,000
Thank you for your work on behalf of our city and our citizens.

1465
02:05:52,000 --> 02:05:54,000
Good presentation.

1466
02:05:54,000 --> 02:05:58,000
If it would be possible if we could introduce the next two items together.

1467
02:05:58,000 --> 02:06:00,000
They're actually kind of right next to one another.

1468
02:06:00,000 --> 02:06:01,000
Absolutely.

1469
02:06:01,000 --> 02:06:03,000
We'll still need two separate actions on them.

1470
02:06:03,000 --> 02:06:05,000
But that way one presentation can kind of cover both.

1471
02:06:05,000 --> 02:06:06,000
I'll read them both.

1472
02:06:06,000 --> 02:06:08,000
We'll get them and we'll act on them separately.

1473
02:06:08,000 --> 02:06:12,000
So resolution number six on the agenda support of S.H.

1474
02:06:12,000 --> 02:06:16,000
Amerala Boulevard LP application for housing tax credit.

1475
02:06:16,000 --> 02:06:20,000
This resolution is support for an application for affordable housing

1476
02:06:20,000 --> 02:06:24,000
to the Texas Department of Housing and Community Affairs.

1477
02:06:24,000 --> 02:06:27,000
Housing tax credit programs by S.H.

1478
02:06:27,000 --> 02:06:30,000
Amerala Boulevard LP, a private entity,

1479
02:06:30,000 --> 02:06:35,000
Marabella, a development for affordable rental property,

1480
02:06:35,000 --> 02:06:40,000
located at plus or minus 2.96 acres near the southeast corner of

1481
02:06:40,000 --> 02:06:43,000
Emerald Boulevard in Jim Lake Road.

1482
02:06:43,000 --> 02:06:47,000
Second item is a resolution support of S.H.

1483
02:06:47,000 --> 02:06:52,000
Amerala Jim Lake LP application for housing tax credits.

1484
02:06:52,000 --> 02:06:55,000
This resolution is support of an application for affordable housing

1485
02:06:55,000 --> 02:06:58,000
to the Texas Department of Housing and Community Affairs.

1486
02:06:58,000 --> 02:07:02,000
Housing tax credit program by S.H.

1487
02:07:02,000 --> 02:07:06,000
Amerala Jim Lake LP, a private entity.

1488
02:07:06,000 --> 02:07:10,000
The attendance of Jim Lake, a development for affordable rental property,

1489
02:07:10,000 --> 02:07:16,000
located at plus or minus 2.00 acres near the southeast corner

1490
02:07:16,000 --> 02:07:19,000
of Emerald Boulevard in Jim Lake Road.

1491
02:07:19,000 --> 02:07:21,000
And could we hear this?

1492
02:07:21,000 --> 02:07:24,000
I think if Mr. Allen wouldn't mind just again,

1493
02:07:24,000 --> 02:07:27,000
this is though it's going in a similar application

1494
02:07:27,000 --> 02:07:30,000
is actually competing for a different program.

1495
02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:33,000
If he could just explain that and then we'll turn over the presentation.

1496
02:07:33,000 --> 02:07:36,000
The resolution that you see before you are from the same developer,

1497
02:07:36,000 --> 02:07:39,000
but this is through the 9% tax credit project.

1498
02:07:39,000 --> 02:07:41,000
So these are competitive.

1499
02:07:41,000 --> 02:07:44,000
The last one that you saw is not a competitive grant.

1500
02:07:44,000 --> 02:07:48,000
Emerald's district consists of Emerald's love and friendships.

1501
02:07:48,000 --> 02:07:50,000
So we're considering an urban district.

1502
02:07:50,000 --> 02:07:52,000
So we would be competing.

1503
02:07:52,000 --> 02:07:54,000
This project will compete potentially against projects

1504
02:07:54,000 --> 02:07:56,000
in those other two cities.

1505
02:07:56,000 --> 02:08:01,000
Emerald's not had a 9% project approved in the past few years.

1506
02:08:01,000 --> 02:08:06,000
So one of the criteria is how many you've had proximity.

1507
02:08:06,000 --> 02:08:12,000
So this project probably has a good chance of being accepted by TTHCA.

1508
02:08:12,000 --> 02:08:17,000
The developer, the stellar family properties,

1509
02:08:17,000 --> 02:08:20,000
is actually submitting too.

1510
02:08:20,000 --> 02:08:23,000
Only one would be approved for our region.

1511
02:08:23,000 --> 02:08:25,000
They're both adjacent to each other.

1512
02:08:25,000 --> 02:08:27,000
One is almost a three acre track.

1513
02:08:27,000 --> 02:08:29,000
There's a two acre track.

1514
02:08:29,000 --> 02:08:32,000
Just off of Emerald, a boulevard west.

1515
02:08:32,000 --> 02:08:34,000
Any questions?

1516
02:08:34,000 --> 02:08:36,000
Just one, Mayor May.

1517
02:08:36,000 --> 02:08:40,000
Is there a way that we can get an update regardless of what happens,

1518
02:08:40,000 --> 02:08:43,000
whether if we approve the resolution site,

1519
02:08:43,000 --> 02:08:46,000
if we can get an update later about what has happened,

1520
02:08:46,000 --> 02:08:48,000
if this has gone through a process and approved.

1521
02:08:48,000 --> 02:08:50,000
Certainly, hopefully if they're approved,

1522
02:08:50,000 --> 02:08:52,000
you'll get some updates on construction,

1523
02:08:52,000 --> 02:08:55,000
but unfortunately I'll give you the update if they're not approved.

1524
02:08:56,000 --> 02:08:58,000
This is a good question because last year,

1525
02:08:58,000 --> 02:09:01,000
some of those things didn't get further through the legislative process

1526
02:09:01,000 --> 02:09:03,000
that happens after we give these resolution.

1527
02:09:03,000 --> 02:09:06,000
So we're in support of the letters.

1528
02:09:06,000 --> 02:09:09,000
We're asking our representatives to give letters of support.

1529
02:09:09,000 --> 02:09:12,000
People doing these projects have covered those bases.

1530
02:09:12,000 --> 02:09:16,000
We're simply adding our voice to this is an absolute need in our community.

1531
02:09:16,000 --> 02:09:20,000
And the fact is they're investing in other communities because we haven't had the ability.

1532
02:09:20,000 --> 02:09:23,000
Now that they've reduced the monetary obligation,

1533
02:09:23,000 --> 02:09:26,000
I believe we should take action to support these kinds of things

1534
02:09:26,000 --> 02:09:30,000
that help develop our community for people that absolutely need this help

1535
02:09:30,000 --> 02:09:31,000
in developing the community.

1536
02:09:31,000 --> 02:09:34,000
So we're having this as a senior project.

1537
02:09:34,000 --> 02:09:37,000
Where's the last one was a multifamily unit.

1538
02:09:37,000 --> 02:09:41,000
So we have needs for affordable housing for seniors as well.

1539
02:09:41,000 --> 02:09:44,000
So the need is there.

1540
02:09:44,000 --> 02:09:46,000
We just need more affordable housing than that.

1541
02:09:46,000 --> 02:09:51,000
We are way, we've seen thousands of units go in in sister cities

1542
02:09:51,000 --> 02:09:56,000
as sister cities like Pampa and Peritain and Dumas and the Lubbock.

1543
02:09:56,000 --> 02:10:00,000
And we have not gotten any, but now the stars are aligned that we might do this.

1544
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:02,000
It's still all we're giving is a resolution.

1545
02:10:02,000 --> 02:10:04,000
They still have to perform.

1546
02:10:04,000 --> 02:10:06,000
They have to do a lot of the things to get this done.

1547
02:10:06,000 --> 02:10:09,000
But the fact is there's a dire need for this in our community.

1548
02:10:09,000 --> 02:10:14,000
So you know, a lot of these seniors could be senior veterans that could be in there too.

1549
02:10:14,000 --> 02:10:15,000
Okay?

1550
02:10:16,000 --> 02:10:21,000
About well, seniors, we have 95 vouchers for the City of Emerald and they're all fully utilized.

1551
02:10:21,000 --> 02:10:25,000
In fact, we need more vast vouchers to help the veterans.

1552
02:10:25,000 --> 02:10:27,000
There are any other part of the presentation.

1553
02:10:27,000 --> 02:10:28,000
The applicant is here.

1554
02:10:28,000 --> 02:10:30,000
Please, we'd like to hear from them.

1555
02:10:35,000 --> 02:10:36,000
Good evening Mayor.

1556
02:10:36,000 --> 02:10:37,000
Members of the council.

1557
02:10:37,000 --> 02:10:38,000
Welcome City staff.

1558
02:10:38,000 --> 02:10:39,000
My name is Paul Stel.

1559
02:10:39,000 --> 02:10:42,000
Thank you for allowing me to come before you talk to you tonight.

1560
02:10:42,000 --> 02:10:44,000
And tell you a little bit about what we want to do.

1561
02:10:44,000 --> 02:10:49,000
I'm here tonight to ask is they've said for a resolution of support.

1562
02:10:49,000 --> 02:10:55,000
And in addition to that for a commitment for a 100 or you can make a $50.

1563
02:10:55,000 --> 02:10:58,000
It could even be $10. I think.

1564
02:10:58,000 --> 02:11:04,000
The waiver that will also allow us to check one of the boxes and get an extra point,

1565
02:11:04,000 --> 02:11:09,000
which is very, very important to me and I'll walk you through why and what we're doing.

1566
02:11:09,000 --> 02:11:16,000
The stellar family companies is a love-up-based company where a faith-based mission-driven organization

1567
02:11:16,000 --> 02:11:23,000
that focuses on trying to enrich the lives of people that live in our residences and people who work into

1568
02:11:23,000 --> 02:11:25,000
company and our associates and our owners.

1569
02:11:25,000 --> 02:11:27,000
We have four subsidiaries.

1570
02:11:27,000 --> 02:11:31,000
We have Stellar Capital Partners, which is an investment firm, which we recently acquired

1571
02:11:31,000 --> 02:11:33,000
a proper here in Emerllo.

1572
02:11:33,000 --> 02:11:35,000
We've owned several before and passed.

1573
02:11:35,000 --> 02:11:38,000
And we're in a process of remodeling that community.

1574
02:11:38,000 --> 02:11:43,000
We have a development arm that does market rate and affordable, which I'm talking about tonight

1575
02:11:43,000 --> 02:11:47,000
about and we have a construction arm in a management arm as well.

1576
02:11:47,000 --> 02:11:52,000
The company collectively has about 102 years of experience across 95 projects,

1577
02:11:52,000 --> 02:11:55,000
located in 41 markets in five states.

1578
02:11:55,000 --> 02:12:02,000
So we have a pretty rich experience and practice in this area.

1579
02:12:02,000 --> 02:12:08,000
The tax credit program, I like to talk about a couple, some of the major components about it in an effort

1580
02:12:08,000 --> 02:12:11,000
to at the risk of maybe being repetitive.

1581
02:12:11,000 --> 02:12:17,000
If you would indulge me and give me a couple minutes to educate you about a couple components about it.

1582
02:12:17,000 --> 02:12:22,000
First of all, it's federal tax credits issued by the Treasury Department through the IRS.

1583
02:12:22,000 --> 02:12:25,000
And they're administered through the state level.

1584
02:12:25,000 --> 02:12:28,000
So you hear the TDA or the Texas Department housing community affairs.

1585
02:12:28,000 --> 02:12:32,000
Each state is charged with taking the credits.

1586
02:12:32,000 --> 02:12:36,000
They get at the federal level and awarding those developers.

1587
02:12:36,000 --> 02:12:37,000
They set up an apartment.

1588
02:12:37,000 --> 02:12:42,000
They create rules in a competitive environment for developers to pursue.

1589
02:12:42,000 --> 02:12:44,000
And so it's an annual cycle.

1590
02:12:44,000 --> 02:12:47,000
They issue these tax credits once a year.

1591
02:12:47,000 --> 02:12:49,000
And it's a competitive process.

1592
02:12:49,000 --> 02:12:51,000
In Texas they have a point system set up.

1593
02:12:51,000 --> 02:12:54,000
And they have all kinds of funny little rules.

1594
02:12:54,000 --> 02:12:56,000
Some of them I think are very valid.

1595
02:12:56,000 --> 02:12:58,000
Some of them I think are obviously a bit silly.

1596
02:12:58,000 --> 02:13:00,000
But you get points for them.

1597
02:13:00,000 --> 02:13:07,000
And I can tell you that oftentimes the projects go down to final application they are tied.

1598
02:13:07,000 --> 02:13:09,000
And they have tie breakers.

1599
02:13:09,000 --> 02:13:12,000
And in based on tie breakers, there is a winner.

1600
02:13:12,000 --> 02:13:16,000
But one single point is a difference between winning and losing.

1601
02:13:16,000 --> 02:13:21,000
And so for example, if a city will give financial support and what they

1602
02:13:21,000 --> 02:13:26,000
think that deemed as a diminimous amount, which can be $10 or in this case,

1603
02:13:26,000 --> 02:13:31,000
100, I said 50, whatever you want to make it, they deemed that as financial support.

1604
02:13:31,000 --> 02:13:33,000
I think that's a little silly.

1605
02:13:33,000 --> 02:13:34,000
But you get a point.

1606
02:13:34,000 --> 02:13:36,000
And with that point, emerala will lose.

1607
02:13:36,000 --> 02:13:37,000
No doubt about it.

1608
02:13:37,000 --> 02:13:41,000
And so it's very important to win every point you can.

1609
02:13:41,000 --> 02:13:47,000
So the developers across the state are trying to find sites that are able to meet the

1610
02:13:47,000 --> 02:13:52,000
criteria set forth by the state to earn points to be competitive and win and award.

1611
02:13:52,000 --> 02:13:56,000
The market rate quality of these projects is important to note.

1612
02:13:56,000 --> 02:14:01,000
The state requires that these projects have the same level of materials used.

1613
02:14:01,000 --> 02:14:05,000
The same level of interior features in the units.

1614
02:14:05,000 --> 02:14:10,000
And the same level of common area amenities that you would find in any market rate community.

1615
02:14:11,000 --> 02:14:13,000
There are 100% masonry products there.

1616
02:14:13,000 --> 02:14:20,000
A brick stone, stucco, or if it's siding, it's a cementous type product called fiberboard or

1617
02:14:20,000 --> 02:14:21,000
hearty plank.

1618
02:14:21,000 --> 02:14:23,000
And so the projects are built.

1619
02:14:23,000 --> 02:14:26,000
Most of the times you'll drive by and there are some here in M.

1620
02:14:26,000 --> 02:14:27,000
Rillo from the past.

1621
02:14:27,000 --> 02:14:30,000
I bet you drive by and I mean, don't even realize your tax credits.

1622
02:14:30,000 --> 02:14:34,000
Because there are very high quality in this mandate by the state.

1623
02:14:34,000 --> 02:14:39,000
The difference between tax credits in federal or market rate communities is that

1624
02:14:39,000 --> 02:14:41,000
they're very low leverage.

1625
02:14:41,000 --> 02:14:46,000
As opposed to typically having a 75% loan to cost on a market rate project,

1626
02:14:46,000 --> 02:14:50,000
you only have about a 25% of the cost in debt.

1627
02:14:50,000 --> 02:14:53,000
And so they're very financially stable.

1628
02:14:53,000 --> 02:15:00,000
But because the debt is less the state forces you to lower your rents so that they're at a more affordable rate.

1629
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:10,000
Knowing that you can make profit still because the note payments is less, and so they're forcing us to lower the rents to be appealing to a affordable resident.

1630
02:15:10,000 --> 02:15:20,000
These rents are set to serve what would be called 60% of the area median income of the market, which are really working families.

1631
02:15:20,000 --> 02:15:32,000
The resident profiles are workers, and the residents pay 100% of the rent. This is not hud housing, and that's perhaps the most important point I want to make.

1632
02:15:32,000 --> 02:15:42,000
You have across the income spectrum, you have the task code that helps the middle class and up to the wealthy. You have hud that helps the poor.

1633
02:15:42,000 --> 02:15:54,000
And oftentimes what is lost is people in the middle. And let me explain, people who are truly very poor, oftentimes may not have but a hundred dollars they can apply towards rent.

1634
02:15:54,000 --> 02:16:00,000
Hud comes along, and if the rent is $700 or $800, hud will pay the difference, the other $700.

1635
02:16:00,000 --> 02:16:12,000
And so the resident moves in, they're only paying $100, and that's a hud type of project. A tax credit project, however, is intended for a working person who is making about 60% of the area median income.

1636
02:16:12,000 --> 02:16:26,000
Those type of people make up to $36,000 a year, oftentimes they're single mothers with children, it may be a teacher who has two children at home, it may be a public servant, a policeman, fireman, some administrative assistance in your back office.

1637
02:16:26,000 --> 02:16:37,000
These people oftentimes, they can't apply for hud, and the task code in helping them much and are struggling to make ends meet. Sometimes we hear them referred to as a working poor.

1638
02:16:37,000 --> 02:16:50,000
And so this project, the tax credit system, takes your rent that may be $800 and it makes or $1,000 for a two-better, let's say, for example, and the rent gets pushed down about $800.

1639
02:16:50,000 --> 02:16:57,000
And $200 a month may not make a lot of difference to some people in a room, but to others it's a lot of difference.

1640
02:16:57,000 --> 02:17:07,000
And so that person, though, pays 100% of that $800 rent. So they're paying a substantial amount of money still for the rent, but at a price they can afford.

1641
02:17:07,000 --> 02:17:12,000
Whether it's $800 for a two-better, or six-hundred for a one-better, and so on and so forth.

1642
02:17:12,000 --> 02:17:17,000
But I want to pay in a picture of the type of people that live in a tax credit community.

1643
02:17:18,000 --> 02:17:25,000
Moving on, we have a long-term investor. When you get the tax credit, you monetize them by selling them in a market.

1644
02:17:25,000 --> 02:17:31,000
And so you'll sell them to people like Wells Fargo, Bank of America, Google buys, tax credits.

1645
02:17:31,000 --> 02:17:37,000
A recent one we did, we sold to the Royal Bank of Canada. They buy $13 million worth of credits, or whatever the amount is.

1646
02:17:37,000 --> 02:17:42,000
They put a substantial amount of money into it, and they receive the benefits of the tax credits.

1647
02:17:42,000 --> 02:17:52,000
What happens, though, is over the next 30 years, if you don't take care of the project and you don't continue to meet the requirements of the state, there is something called tax recapture.

1648
02:17:52,000 --> 02:17:57,000
And they would have to pay all the back taxes they should have paid, plus all these penalties.

1649
02:17:57,000 --> 02:18:01,000
So because of that, we don't have just the government watching over the property.

1650
02:18:01,000 --> 02:18:09,000
We have a bank, and we have a huge investor that puts their thumb on us every day, every month, every year, to make sure that property is maintained.

1651
02:18:09,000 --> 02:18:17,000
That's why you never see a tax credit project in disrepair as opposed to kind of what people come to know as HUD housing.

1652
02:18:17,000 --> 02:18:25,000
The tax credit projects, if you, as the gentleman referred to earlier, if you have a tax credit recapture, you are bankrupt.

1653
02:18:25,000 --> 02:18:31,000
It is a big deal, then you got city bank, or you got Wells Fargo, or you got Google on you to make sure it doesn't happen.

1654
02:18:31,000 --> 02:18:35,000
So the properties are very well maintained over the long term.

1655
02:18:35,000 --> 02:18:39,000
And so it creates a long term viability.

1656
02:18:39,000 --> 02:18:43,000
So the property amenities, I mentioned earlier, are significant.

1657
02:18:43,000 --> 02:18:50,000
The common area amenities, oftentimes you have clubhouses, fitness centers, business centers, media rooms, you'll have garages.

1658
02:18:50,000 --> 02:18:54,000
You'll have a number of amenities that you can kind of scan through and see there.

1659
02:18:54,000 --> 02:18:57,000
In terms of the interior of the unit, this is a picture of a interior unit.

1660
02:18:57,000 --> 02:19:04,000
You have everything you would see in any market rate community that may be built out on a son's seat that you might drive in and look at.

1661
02:19:04,000 --> 02:19:10,000
The quality of cabinets, the appliances had to be energy efficient, so on and so forth, very nice.

1662
02:19:10,000 --> 02:19:13,000
They are the exact same unit.

1663
02:19:13,000 --> 02:19:18,000
The two sites that we have are located in reflected on this area.

1664
02:19:18,000 --> 02:19:20,000
Let me explain why we have two.

1665
02:19:20,000 --> 02:19:22,000
Oftentimes there are some unknowns.

1666
02:19:22,000 --> 02:19:28,000
The state requires us to make a pre-application in January, and then the final application is due in March,

1667
02:19:28,000 --> 02:19:31,000
and then they award or make their decision in July.

1668
02:19:31,000 --> 02:19:36,000
But oftentimes the rules are not finished until around November.

1669
02:19:36,000 --> 02:19:42,000
So it gives us a very short window to find our site and a short window to do all of our due diligence.

1670
02:19:42,000 --> 02:19:46,000
Sometimes we have a site that there are still some questions unknown.

1671
02:19:46,000 --> 02:19:54,000
And so we may have more than one site that we make the initial application on while we're still looking at our numbers to see which site works better.

1672
02:19:54,000 --> 02:20:05,000
It may have to do with access, the heck of a access, it may have to do with access to utilities, how much drainage or grading is needed, cost to associate things such as that.

1673
02:20:05,000 --> 02:20:08,000
And so in this case we have two sites.

1674
02:20:08,000 --> 02:20:12,000
We will only move forward, ultimately only one will get done.

1675
02:20:12,000 --> 02:20:22,000
We may still even present both while we're still trying to figure out all the final details of our due diligence, but only one of these will be built.

1676
02:20:23,000 --> 02:20:26,000
It will be a senior project.

1677
02:20:26,000 --> 02:20:30,000
And this is an example of one that we are constructing right now.

1678
02:20:30,000 --> 02:20:35,000
This would be the type of prototype that we would build on this site.

1679
02:20:35,000 --> 02:20:37,000
It would be a multi-story product.

1680
02:20:37,000 --> 02:20:40,000
It's senior in orientations, so it's one in two bedrooms.

1681
02:20:40,000 --> 02:20:44,000
And the hallways are located interior to the corridor of the building.

1682
02:20:44,000 --> 02:20:47,000
There are no exterior breezeways, stairs or anything like that.

1683
02:20:47,000 --> 02:20:52,000
You have interior hallways, and you have elevators, so that the elderly do not have to go out in the elements.

1684
02:20:52,000 --> 02:20:56,000
It's much safer and secure that way.

1685
02:20:56,000 --> 02:20:57,000
Here's another picture.

1686
02:20:57,000 --> 02:21:00,000
Oftentimes I have a port of code that comes out front.

1687
02:21:00,000 --> 02:21:09,000
You've seen them a lot of assisted living facilities, so you can drop grant them off or you can get into a car and out of the weather.

1688
02:21:09,000 --> 02:21:14,000
The building is typically in a U-shaped configuration, so it creates a courtyard in the center,

1689
02:21:14,000 --> 02:21:18,000
and this is a rendering of the project and how the courtyard is created.

1690
02:21:18,000 --> 02:21:22,000
So at the end of the day, our focus is about quality.

1691
02:21:22,000 --> 02:21:31,000
It's about working to collaborative approach with the city and all the constituents involved.

1692
02:21:31,000 --> 02:21:33,000
This is our backyard.

1693
02:21:33,000 --> 02:21:40,000
West Texas has so proud to hear the story about Excel and how the people of our community behaved.

1694
02:21:40,000 --> 02:21:44,000
It's representative of who West Texas is, as a West Texas company.

1695
02:21:44,000 --> 02:21:47,000
This is our backyard and we're very committed to it.

1696
02:21:47,000 --> 02:21:53,000
So we're excited for this opportunity, and we appreciate your consideration on this matter.

1697
02:21:53,000 --> 02:21:56,000
I'm happy answering questions you might have.

1698
02:21:56,000 --> 02:21:58,000
Sorry.

1699
02:21:58,000 --> 02:21:59,000
This is another question.

1700
02:21:59,000 --> 02:22:03,000
It's learned about the content more about what we have to do tonight.

1701
02:22:03,000 --> 02:22:07,000
So you talked about a day minimum of some out, and making sure we check off that box.

1702
02:22:07,000 --> 02:22:09,000
Is that something I don't see in the resolution?

1703
02:22:09,000 --> 02:22:15,000
It can be a letter that's signed and sent to us by the city manager.

1704
02:22:15,000 --> 02:22:18,000
And that's what we did, I think, last year in the certifications.

1705
02:22:18,000 --> 02:22:19,000
Okay.

1706
02:22:19,000 --> 02:22:23,000
We made it a part of the motion, so you'd authorize that letter to be written.

1707
02:22:23,000 --> 02:22:24,000
Okay.

1708
02:22:24,000 --> 02:22:27,000
But it does not have to be done as part of this resolution tonight.

1709
02:22:27,000 --> 02:22:30,000
But it will be done if we further the application.

1710
02:22:30,000 --> 02:22:31,000
Got it.

1711
02:22:31,000 --> 02:22:32,000
Okay.

1712
02:22:32,000 --> 02:22:36,000
I just want to make sure that we didn't mess up and you lose that one valuable point that you need.

1713
02:22:36,000 --> 02:22:38,000
So it's nice when it's pocket change.

1714
02:22:38,000 --> 02:22:40,000
Not what they required before.

1715
02:22:40,000 --> 02:22:41,000
You get the same point.

1716
02:22:41,000 --> 02:22:44,000
You get the same one point for 10 bucks or a hundred bucks.

1717
02:22:44,000 --> 02:22:45,000
Yes.

1718
02:22:45,000 --> 02:22:49,000
That's when he was referring to the silly things that go on with the requirement.

1719
02:22:49,000 --> 02:22:50,000
Okay.

1720
02:22:50,000 --> 02:22:51,000
It's a great presentation.

1721
02:22:51,000 --> 02:22:52,000
It was.

1722
02:22:52,000 --> 02:22:53,000
Very good.

1723
02:22:53,000 --> 02:22:54,000
Any questions for council?

1724
02:22:54,000 --> 02:22:56,000
Any questions from the audience?

1725
02:22:56,000 --> 02:22:58,000
I'd entertain a motion.

1726
02:22:58,000 --> 02:23:02,000
And we'll do the item six first resolutions.

1727
02:23:02,000 --> 02:23:07,000
Supporting the SH Emerald Boulevard LP application for housing tax credit.

1728
02:23:07,000 --> 02:23:08,000
Do I hear a motion?

1729
02:23:08,000 --> 02:23:10,000
Mayor, I move.

1730
02:23:10,000 --> 02:23:17,000
We approve the resolution support of SH Emerald Boulevard LP application for housing tax credit.

1731
02:23:17,000 --> 02:23:18,000
Second.

1732
02:23:18,000 --> 02:23:20,000
We have a motion in a second.

1733
02:23:20,000 --> 02:23:21,000
All those in favor.

1734
02:23:21,000 --> 02:23:22,000
Please signify by saying aye.

1735
02:23:22,000 --> 02:23:23,000
Aye.

1736
02:23:23,000 --> 02:23:24,000
Opposed.

1737
02:23:24,000 --> 02:23:25,000
Abstentions.

1738
02:23:25,000 --> 02:23:27,000
That passes with a five o vote.

1739
02:23:27,000 --> 02:23:30,000
The next item is the resolution supporting SH.

1740
02:23:30,000 --> 02:23:35,000
Emerald Jim Lake LP application for housing tax credits.

1741
02:23:35,000 --> 02:23:36,000
I entertain a motion.

1742
02:23:36,000 --> 02:23:41,000
Mayor, if I could just clarify the reason to that included the the authorization to.

1743
02:23:41,000 --> 02:23:44,000
I guess this question to send the letter.

1744
02:23:44,000 --> 02:23:45,000
Yes.

1745
02:23:45,000 --> 02:23:46,000
Okay.

1746
02:23:46,000 --> 02:23:47,000
Pardon me.

1747
02:23:47,000 --> 02:23:48,000
Thank you.

1748
02:23:48,000 --> 02:23:49,000
Mr. Mayor.

1749
02:23:49,000 --> 02:23:53,000
I would so move approval with the noted authorization for the letter.

1750
02:23:53,000 --> 02:23:54,000
Yes.

1751
02:23:54,000 --> 02:23:55,000
For the second.

1752
02:23:55,000 --> 02:23:56,000
Second.

1753
02:23:56,000 --> 02:23:57,000
We've got a motion in a second.

1754
02:23:57,000 --> 02:23:58,000
All those in favor.

1755
02:23:58,000 --> 02:23:59,000
Please signify by saying aye.

1756
02:23:59,000 --> 02:24:00,000
Aye.

1757
02:24:00,000 --> 02:24:01,000
Aye.

1758
02:24:01,000 --> 02:24:02,000
Opposed.

1759
02:24:02,000 --> 02:24:03,000
Abstentions.

1760
02:24:03,000 --> 02:24:04,000
Thank you.

1761
02:24:04,000 --> 02:24:05,000
Thank you for your work in our city.

1762
02:24:05,000 --> 02:24:06,000
Thank you all.

1763
02:24:06,000 --> 02:24:07,000
We should good luck.

1764
02:24:07,000 --> 02:24:08,000
I know you got a lot of work left to do.

1765
02:24:08,000 --> 02:24:09,000
Thank you.

1766
02:24:09,000 --> 02:24:11,000
Thank you.

1767
02:24:11,000 --> 02:24:14,000
The next item is resolution calling for municipal election.

1768
02:24:14,000 --> 02:24:19,000
This resolution calls a regular municipal election to be held on May 6, 2017.

1769
02:24:19,000 --> 02:24:28,000
The election will be for the offices of Mayor, Councilmember Place 1, Councilmember Place 2, Councilmember Place 3 and Councilmember Place 4.

1770
02:24:28,000 --> 02:24:30,000
We're fulfilling a requirement.

1771
02:24:30,000 --> 02:24:32,000
The secretary state, the AG get together.

1772
02:24:32,000 --> 02:24:35,000
Send us a list of when these dates have to be accomplished.

1773
02:24:35,000 --> 02:24:39,000
We are, of course, required by our charter to hold these elections.

1774
02:24:39,000 --> 02:24:43,000
And so we act on this today and then set the ballot next week.

1775
02:24:43,000 --> 02:24:44,000
Correct?

1776
02:24:44,000 --> 02:24:45,000
Yes.

1777
02:24:45,000 --> 02:24:48,000
Is there any question about this item from the council?

1778
02:24:48,000 --> 02:24:50,000
The audience?

1779
02:24:50,000 --> 02:24:52,000
I'd entertain a motion.

1780
02:24:52,000 --> 02:24:56,000
Mayor, I'm moving to approve the resolution calling for the municipal election.

1781
02:24:56,000 --> 02:24:57,000
Second.

1782
02:24:57,000 --> 02:25:02,000
The motion of the second calling for resolution calling for municipal election.

1783
02:25:02,000 --> 02:25:05,000
All those in favor please signify by saying aye.

1784
02:25:05,000 --> 02:25:06,000
Aye.

1785
02:25:06,000 --> 02:25:07,000
Opposed.

1786
02:25:07,000 --> 02:25:09,000
Extensions.

1787
02:25:09,000 --> 02:25:12,000
That passes with a 50 vote.

1788
02:25:12,000 --> 02:25:13,000
Okay.

1789
02:25:13,000 --> 02:25:17,000
The next item is consideration of appointments of boards and commissions.

1790
02:25:17,000 --> 02:25:21,000
This item is for discussion and consideration of appointments to vacant.

1791
02:25:21,000 --> 02:25:24,000
Expiring positions and boards and commissions.

1792
02:25:24,000 --> 02:25:25,000
And there's a whole list.

1793
02:25:25,000 --> 02:25:28,000
But I'll go through those with the council's understanding.

1794
02:25:28,000 --> 02:25:30,000
There's been Councilmember Demerson.

1795
02:25:30,000 --> 02:25:34,000
I finished this task and happily passed it to councilmember.

1796
02:25:34,000 --> 02:25:35,000
They haven't worked it.

1797
02:25:35,000 --> 02:25:37,000
They have done a lot of effort to try and get this.

1798
02:25:37,000 --> 02:25:42,000
But staff has done a tremendous effort to make sure we have the corresponding applications and other things.

1799
02:25:42,000 --> 02:25:44,000
I have done a summary.

1800
02:25:44,000 --> 02:25:46,000
And if you'll bear with me.

1801
02:25:46,000 --> 02:25:48,000
I think it's very important.

1802
02:25:48,000 --> 02:25:49,000
We get some of these appointed.

1803
02:25:49,000 --> 02:25:51,000
There's some that I think you'll all agree.

1804
02:25:51,000 --> 02:25:53,000
They need a little work for instance.

1805
02:25:53,000 --> 02:25:57,000
A little work being that we have suggested by our group.

1806
02:25:57,000 --> 02:25:59,000
And I support that.

1807
02:25:59,000 --> 02:26:02,000
That we that we interview the candidates.

1808
02:26:02,000 --> 02:26:07,000
And we'll name for hopefully tonight candidates for the ADC.

1809
02:26:07,000 --> 02:26:09,000
But let's go back to that.

1810
02:26:09,000 --> 02:26:15,000
I'd like to take some of the low hanging fruit that I think we'll get pretty quick resolution of and move on.

1811
02:26:15,000 --> 02:26:17,000
If you'll bear with me.

1812
02:26:17,000 --> 02:26:19,000
We have on this list.

1813
02:26:19,000 --> 02:26:22,000
The MPO policy committee.

1814
02:26:22,000 --> 02:26:25,000
And Mr. City Attorney, I'm an ask clarification.

1815
02:26:25,000 --> 02:26:27,000
We of course we're going to point Bob to that.

1816
02:26:27,000 --> 02:26:29,000
It's a legal deal.

1817
02:26:29,000 --> 02:26:31,000
Be suggested that we need to really change that.

1818
02:26:31,000 --> 02:26:36,000
I'm not sure what it takes place to say the city manager would be the person serving there.

1819
02:26:36,000 --> 02:26:37,000
Whoever it is.

1820
02:26:37,000 --> 02:26:39,000
But I think that would take some more effort.

1821
02:26:39,000 --> 02:26:42,000
I don't know if it's premature to just a point.

1822
02:26:42,000 --> 02:26:44,000
Jared Miller to that.

1823
02:26:44,000 --> 02:26:46,000
And obviously if he's not available.

1824
02:26:46,000 --> 02:26:48,000
His subordinate would be there.

1825
02:26:48,000 --> 02:26:49,000
Is it appropriate tonight?

1826
02:26:49,000 --> 02:26:50,000
This is just Jared Miller.

1827
02:26:50,000 --> 02:26:51,000
That's your city attorney.

1828
02:26:51,000 --> 02:26:52,000
Okay.

1829
02:26:52,000 --> 02:26:53,000
You can do that.

1830
02:26:53,000 --> 02:26:59,000
And in fact, the way it actually works on this particular committee is if the city manager is unavailable.

1831
02:26:59,000 --> 02:27:01,000
He does have his design E attend.

1832
02:27:01,000 --> 02:27:02,000
So that's him.

1833
02:27:02,000 --> 02:27:03,000
There it has been in the past.

1834
02:27:03,000 --> 02:27:04,000
That's okay.

1835
02:27:04,000 --> 02:27:06,000
The other advantage they only meet quarterly.

1836
02:27:06,000 --> 02:27:09,000
So there's there's some time for him to get it.

1837
02:27:09,000 --> 02:27:11,000
Or him to be here.

1838
02:27:11,000 --> 02:27:13,000
So I would let's knock that one off if we can.

1839
02:27:13,000 --> 02:27:16,000
I'd entertain a motion for that item.

1840
02:27:17,000 --> 02:27:24,000
Mr. Mayor, movie appoint Jared Miller to replace Terry Childers on the MPO policy committee.

1841
02:27:24,000 --> 02:27:25,000
Second.

1842
02:27:25,000 --> 02:27:26,000
We have a motion to second.

1843
02:27:26,000 --> 02:27:28,000
Any discussion from the council?

1844
02:27:28,000 --> 02:27:31,000
Any discussion from the audience?

1845
02:27:31,000 --> 02:27:34,000
All those in favor please signify by saying aye.

1846
02:27:34,000 --> 02:27:35,000
Aye.

1847
02:27:35,000 --> 02:27:36,000
Opposed.

1848
02:27:36,000 --> 02:27:37,000
Abstentions.

1849
02:27:37,000 --> 02:27:38,000
Okay.

1850
02:27:38,000 --> 02:27:39,000
We finally got one off this list.

1851
02:27:39,000 --> 02:27:40,000
Councilmember Demoson.

1852
02:27:40,000 --> 02:27:41,000
I think we were part of this.

1853
02:27:41,000 --> 02:27:43,000
Now we're carrying it on.

1854
02:27:43,000 --> 02:27:44,000
That's an easier.

1855
02:27:44,000 --> 02:27:45,000
There we go.

1856
02:27:45,000 --> 02:27:49,000
So the next one that I hope we can do something similar with.

1857
02:27:49,000 --> 02:27:53,000
There's just some really good people that are vying for these positions.

1858
02:27:53,000 --> 02:28:01,000
And I certainly would tell you that one of those that was suggested by our group was for animal animal management and welfare.

1859
02:28:01,000 --> 02:28:03,000
We had a past chairman.

1860
02:28:03,000 --> 02:28:05,000
Vice chairman.

1861
02:28:05,000 --> 02:28:06,000
Retire from that.

1862
02:28:06,000 --> 02:28:10,000
And it is suggested by many of the people in that board that Melanie.

1863
02:28:10,000 --> 02:28:14,000
Davidson would be an excellent substitute.

1864
02:28:14,000 --> 02:28:15,000
New person.

1865
02:28:15,000 --> 02:28:17,000
And we've received an application.

1866
02:28:17,000 --> 02:28:18,000
And it is stellar.

1867
02:28:18,000 --> 02:28:21,000
And I would suggest we take action on this.

1868
02:28:21,000 --> 02:28:23,000
I would like to ask a question.

1869
02:28:23,000 --> 02:28:24,000
Please act on this.

1870
02:28:24,000 --> 02:28:28,000
I had also offered a name prior to.

1871
02:28:28,000 --> 02:28:29,000
Melodies.

1872
02:28:29,000 --> 02:28:31,000
Davidson's name being submitted.

1873
02:28:31,000 --> 02:28:33,000
Was that considered by the subcommittee?

1874
02:28:33,000 --> 02:28:35,000
Let me look at that list.

1875
02:28:35,000 --> 02:28:37,000
Do you remember the name sir?

1876
02:28:37,000 --> 02:28:38,000
Please.

1877
02:28:38,000 --> 02:28:39,000
It was.

1878
02:28:39,000 --> 02:28:40,000
Melodies.

1879
02:28:40,000 --> 02:28:41,000
Melodies.

1880
02:28:41,000 --> 02:28:42,000
Melodies.

1881
02:28:42,000 --> 02:28:43,000
Yes.

1882
02:28:43,000 --> 02:28:44,000
So what we.

1883
02:28:44,000 --> 02:28:46,000
What we did was we just took.

1884
02:28:46,000 --> 02:28:47,000
To the list.

1885
02:28:47,000 --> 02:28:48,000
Just a recommendation.

1886
02:28:48,000 --> 02:28:50,000
That we had from.

1887
02:28:50,000 --> 02:28:52,000
Outgoing and current people on the board.

1888
02:28:52,000 --> 02:28:53,000
That's.

1889
02:28:53,000 --> 02:28:54,000
That came up.

1890
02:28:54,000 --> 02:28:57,000
One of the things to note on this is we had applications.

1891
02:28:57,000 --> 02:29:01,000
That they looked at and passed on to us for three people.

1892
02:29:01,000 --> 02:29:05,000
We have had inquiries from another 10 that haven't put an applicant.

1893
02:29:05,000 --> 02:29:06,000
10.

1894
02:29:06,000 --> 02:29:07,000
Maybe seven that haven't put an application.

1895
02:29:07,000 --> 02:29:16,000
We did have applications from Melanie Maloof from Melanie Davidson and from Matthew.

1896
02:29:16,000 --> 02:29:17,000
Actually.

1897
02:29:17,000 --> 02:29:20,000
So we may need to have further discussion about this.

1898
02:29:20,000 --> 02:29:23,000
But Councilmember Demerson.

1899
02:29:23,000 --> 02:29:25,000
And to the committee.

1900
02:29:25,000 --> 02:29:26,000
Melody.

1901
02:29:26,000 --> 02:29:27,000
Melody.

1902
02:29:27,000 --> 02:29:28,000
She's.

1903
02:29:28,000 --> 02:29:29,000
Good candidate.

1904
02:29:29,000 --> 02:29:30,000
No question.

1905
02:29:30,000 --> 02:29:31,000
It's.

1906
02:29:31,000 --> 02:29:32,000
What are we all.

1907
02:29:32,000 --> 02:29:34,000
You say a couple words so in the process.

1908
02:29:34,000 --> 02:29:35,000
So I don't understand.

1909
02:29:35,000 --> 02:29:36,000
We we made this subcommittee.

1910
02:29:36,000 --> 02:29:39,000
So we can optimize our time so we can get some names.

1911
02:29:39,000 --> 02:29:43,000
And then the point was that then we would offer names that we kind of cooked up.

1912
02:29:43,000 --> 02:29:47,000
And then we have a couple weeks that all of us could take a look at the names.

1913
02:29:47,000 --> 02:29:48,000
And then we come back tonight.

1914
02:29:48,000 --> 02:29:50,000
We can kind of evaluate it.

1915
02:29:50,000 --> 02:29:51,000
And so in the spirit of that.

1916
02:29:51,000 --> 02:29:53,000
I mean, I have a name that I would like to add.

1917
02:29:53,000 --> 02:29:56,000
For what we did with the recommendation before.

1918
02:29:56,000 --> 02:29:57,000
If I have some.

1919
02:29:57,000 --> 02:29:58,000
Phone calls.

1920
02:29:58,000 --> 02:29:59,000
And so I think.

1921
02:29:59,000 --> 02:30:00,000
So I think.

1922
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:05,000
All of this is this really great, great, cooperative way of coming up with the best board members.

1923
02:30:05,000 --> 02:30:10,000
The other thing of man or app, because one of the things that we weren't always able to do is get enough.

1924
02:30:10,000 --> 02:30:15,000
We've gotten a lot more applications to, I don't even encourage anybody that wants to serve on a board.

1925
02:30:15,000 --> 02:30:23,000
There's over 200 people that serve on these boards to get your name in, go online, fill in the application for a specific board or general.

1926
02:30:23,000 --> 02:30:33,000
But Mark, you are considering somebody else and this is board, just another seat for another board.

1927
02:30:33,000 --> 02:30:40,000
Okay, so I'm taking a little time to explain the process and what we did, but not anything was said in stone, right?

1928
02:30:40,000 --> 02:30:49,000
But we also said we hoped we'd have more than one name for this board to consider and we haven't achieved that. Now we're achieving that, so let's carry on the discussion.

1929
02:30:49,000 --> 02:30:54,000
What's your all's preference on this item?

1930
02:30:54,000 --> 02:30:58,000
Is there a preference from this committee on the choices that are presented?

1931
02:30:58,000 --> 02:31:07,000
So I think what we've gotten now is consideration of Melanie Maloof, and we also have consideration of.

1932
02:31:07,000 --> 02:31:10,000
So in the discussion of the committee, we did a couple of things.

1933
02:31:10,000 --> 02:31:16,000
We looked at our policy that we created up here of somebody staying on a board for two terms.

1934
02:31:16,000 --> 02:31:23,000
So we said if you're on two terms, the policy we've created is okay, let somebody else take that spot with certain exceptions.

1935
02:31:23,000 --> 02:31:27,000
Sure, and those exceptions will talk about here in a little bit, I think.

1936
02:31:27,000 --> 02:31:33,000
Then the next was we have recommendations from people that are currently in there, or people who are leaving the board.

1937
02:31:33,000 --> 02:31:36,000
And then we looked at time on the queue.

1938
02:31:36,000 --> 02:31:44,000
So if people have been waiting, we take people who've been waiting longer than people who just applied, just out of equity and fairness.

1939
02:31:44,000 --> 02:31:48,000
Again, a really important one is that somebody have an application.

1940
02:31:48,000 --> 02:31:53,000
So we really tried in this past two weeks to make sure that it has the application, because it's not a valid name if we don't.

1941
02:31:53,000 --> 02:31:56,000
So those are the kind of rules that we established ahead of time.

1942
02:31:56,000 --> 02:32:00,000
Now inside of those rules is where we have the discussions, and here's the best fit.

1943
02:32:00,000 --> 02:32:05,000
We'll try to really hard to follow the policy of what we had gotten, and start with the council.

1944
02:32:05,000 --> 02:32:11,000
But we all recognize, as councilmember Demoson, I experienced that policy has to be varied for practicality,

1945
02:32:11,000 --> 02:32:13,000
and he's keeping these boards moving.

1946
02:32:13,000 --> 02:32:18,000
Right, so that's my whole point, is we tried to fit into this, but now we have to figure out who is right.

1947
02:32:18,000 --> 02:32:20,000
Councilmember Demoson, do you have a comment?

1948
02:32:20,000 --> 02:32:22,000
I know, I have no comment.

1949
02:32:22,000 --> 02:32:25,000
Okay.

1950
02:32:25,000 --> 02:32:26,000
All right.

1951
02:32:26,000 --> 02:32:35,000
So do you want to consider this over a period of time or do you want to have a nomination for one of these people tonight?

1952
02:32:35,000 --> 02:32:37,000
And we see if it passes.

1953
02:32:37,000 --> 02:32:39,000
We're not trying to hurt anybody's feelings.

1954
02:32:39,000 --> 02:32:43,000
We've got some great candidates that have popped up for a lot of different boards.

1955
02:32:43,000 --> 02:32:48,000
But we simply need to make a choice, and it's timely that we make a choice.

1956
02:32:48,000 --> 02:32:51,000
This said in one of the boards, we can talk about an executive session.

1957
02:32:51,000 --> 02:32:52,000
It is not.

1958
02:32:52,000 --> 02:32:54,000
It's the ones that count.

1959
02:32:54,000 --> 02:32:57,000
Mr. City Attorney, would you explain which ones those are?

1960
02:32:57,000 --> 02:32:59,000
So everybody knows.

1961
02:32:59,000 --> 02:33:04,000
Under the Texas Open Meeting Act, there's a limitation on the type of officers and employees you can discuss.

1962
02:33:04,000 --> 02:33:06,000
An executive session.

1963
02:33:06,000 --> 02:33:10,000
That is their duties and responsibilities and qualifications.

1964
02:33:10,000 --> 02:33:20,000
In general, the act requires that in order for you to discuss them in executive session that their duties include final decision making.

1965
02:33:20,000 --> 02:33:22,000
That's the general test.

1966
02:33:22,000 --> 02:33:28,000
And you have several boards like that, such as the AEDC, the Hospital District Board, and some others.

1967
02:33:28,000 --> 02:33:34,000
It's a particular board animal management and welfare is an advisory board only.

1968
02:33:34,000 --> 02:33:38,000
So that discussion has to happen in Open Meeting.

1969
02:33:38,000 --> 02:33:41,000
They did substantial work in the last three years.

1970
02:33:41,000 --> 02:33:44,000
We don't want to dismiss that at all, but it's not illegally.

1971
02:33:44,000 --> 02:33:47,000
It doesn't have legal dick.

1972
02:33:47,000 --> 02:33:50,000
I would like to just offer.

1973
02:33:50,000 --> 02:33:54,000
And if you tell me, I don't, I don't, I didn't have any.

1974
02:33:54,000 --> 02:33:57,000
We didn't have any information at the time that we would.

1975
02:33:57,000 --> 02:33:59,000
We could meet correct regarding.

1976
02:33:59,000 --> 02:34:01,000
Melody Davidson.

1977
02:34:01,000 --> 02:34:05,000
And we did have an application from Melody Malloo.

1978
02:34:05,000 --> 02:34:09,000
At the time, the reason that her name was brought forth is because.

1979
02:34:09,000 --> 02:34:11,000
Andrea Gully.

1980
02:34:11,000 --> 02:34:13,000
Isn't attorney going off.

1981
02:34:13,000 --> 02:34:15,000
And there were.

1982
02:34:15,000 --> 02:34:19,000
Issues that that I thought that animal.

1983
02:34:19,000 --> 02:34:22,000
Management welfare had had been.

1984
02:34:22,000 --> 02:34:25,000
Looking at that were more.

1985
02:34:25,000 --> 02:34:29,000
I had to have some specific expertise.

1986
02:34:29,000 --> 02:34:31,000
If you tell me though that.

1987
02:34:31,000 --> 02:34:33,000
Andrea Gully.

1988
02:34:33,000 --> 02:34:35,000
Going off.

1989
02:34:35,000 --> 02:34:37,000
Person also recommended.

1990
02:34:37,000 --> 02:34:40,000
Her, you know, I think either one would be a great.

1991
02:34:40,000 --> 02:34:42,000
As said to this board.

1992
02:34:42,000 --> 02:34:43,000
I don't know.

1993
02:34:43,000 --> 02:34:44,000
I just need to.

1994
02:34:44,000 --> 02:34:46,000
Because I just got.

1995
02:34:46,000 --> 02:34:49,000
Well, let's, I would recommend we delay this on this board.

1996
02:34:49,000 --> 02:34:50,000
So we can have another week.

1997
02:34:50,000 --> 02:34:51,000
That's fine.

1998
02:34:51,000 --> 02:34:54,000
We have Melanie Davidson who.

1999
02:34:54,000 --> 02:34:59,000
Just we do have her application now and we did not have it when you and I were discussing exactly.

2000
02:34:59,000 --> 02:35:03,000
And she shows as a member of the community cat committee established by the current.

2001
02:35:03,000 --> 02:35:05,000
Emerald.

2002
02:35:05,000 --> 02:35:07,000
Management and welfare board.

2003
02:35:07,000 --> 02:35:12,000
And she's been working for animal rescues for the last year and a half.

2004
02:35:12,000 --> 02:35:14,000
Specifically with our shelters.

2005
02:35:14,000 --> 02:35:17,000
I believe she was here and presented the team.

2006
02:35:17,000 --> 02:35:21,000
She was and she did a good job and was very interested.

2007
02:35:21,000 --> 02:35:28,000
The other one has obvious credentials and has a lot of agree and with something in our considerations.

2008
02:35:28,000 --> 02:35:31,000
We have an attorney going off that board.

2009
02:35:31,000 --> 02:35:36,000
This, this board has some really technical things that they give their expertise on.

2010
02:35:36,000 --> 02:35:38,000
So let's put this off till next week.

2011
02:35:38,000 --> 02:35:40,000
But let's try and get a decision next week.

2012
02:35:40,000 --> 02:35:41,000
Okay.

2013
02:35:41,000 --> 02:35:42,000
All right.

2014
02:35:42,000 --> 02:35:44,000
Next item is.

2015
02:35:44,000 --> 02:35:46,000
The.

2016
02:35:46,000 --> 02:35:47,000
Okay.

2017
02:35:47,000 --> 02:35:51,000
There was a suggestion for the library board for Thomas Warren the third.

2018
02:35:51,000 --> 02:35:54,000
There's no better or other.

2019
02:35:54,000 --> 02:35:57,000
And I would suggest we take action on that.

2020
02:35:57,000 --> 02:35:58,000
Mayor, I move.

2021
02:35:58,000 --> 02:36:00,000
We.

2022
02:36:00,000 --> 02:36:01,000
Nominate are we.

2023
02:36:01,000 --> 02:36:03,000
Put Thomas Warren the third in place of.

2024
02:36:03,000 --> 02:36:06,000
Mori Rom and Jordan.

2025
02:36:06,000 --> 02:36:07,000
Second.

2026
02:36:07,000 --> 02:36:10,000
We have a motion a second in discussion by the council.

2027
02:36:10,000 --> 02:36:13,000
Any discussion by the audience.

2028
02:36:14,000 --> 02:36:18,000
All those in favor please signify by saying aye aye opposed.

2029
02:36:18,000 --> 02:36:19,000
Abstentions.

2030
02:36:19,000 --> 02:36:21,000
That passes with the 50 vote.

2031
02:36:21,000 --> 02:36:26,000
And I think in the history of the city this may be the first person because now the voting age is now 18.

2032
02:36:26,000 --> 02:36:27,000
He voted.

2033
02:36:27,000 --> 02:36:28,000
I know in the last election.

2034
02:36:28,000 --> 02:36:33,000
And I think he's the first high school student appointed to a committee.

2035
02:36:33,000 --> 02:36:35,000
Congratulations Mr. Warren.

2036
02:36:36,000 --> 02:36:40,000
So learn a lot more hard.

2037
02:36:40,000 --> 02:36:41,000
Okay.

2038
02:36:41,000 --> 02:36:43,000
The next item.

2039
02:36:43,000 --> 02:36:47,000
The next item is the landmarks.

2040
02:36:47,000 --> 02:36:50,000
And this one may not get through with landmarks and historic districts.

2041
02:36:50,000 --> 02:36:55,000
The suggestion was made that Jason Boyet be recommended by the committee.

2042
02:36:55,000 --> 02:37:00,000
You know the name I saw in here that I would like us to discuss is Greg Bynam.

2043
02:37:00,000 --> 02:37:02,000
Greg was involved in the.

2044
02:37:02,000 --> 02:37:05,000
The same board.

2045
02:37:05,000 --> 02:37:06,000
With the chamber.

2046
02:37:06,000 --> 02:37:08,000
Convention of visitors.

2047
02:37:08,000 --> 02:37:11,000
He operates he's the president of the education credit.

2048
02:37:11,000 --> 02:37:14,000
He and his family has a long history here in and border.

2049
02:37:14,000 --> 02:37:20,000
He's very interested in those old buildings and downtown and other parts of town too.

2050
02:37:20,000 --> 02:37:21,000
But.

2051
02:37:21,000 --> 02:37:23,000
And I would somebody speak for Jason Boyet.

2052
02:37:23,000 --> 02:37:24,000
I don't know him.

2053
02:37:24,000 --> 02:37:25,000
He has a good application.

2054
02:37:25,000 --> 02:37:28,000
But I simply don't know him.

2055
02:37:28,000 --> 02:37:35,000
But obviously when you're doing these, you're trying to get a number of names out in your

2056
02:37:35,000 --> 02:37:36,000
Picking from a list.

2057
02:37:36,000 --> 02:37:39,000
So did you guys have anything else specific?

2058
02:37:39,000 --> 02:37:40,000
And he's a professional writer.

2059
02:37:40,000 --> 02:37:44,000
More than a dozen books with religious history.

2060
02:37:44,000 --> 02:37:47,000
He did the columns in the Emerllo magazine.

2061
02:37:47,000 --> 02:37:49,000
And he's interested in local history.

2062
02:37:49,000 --> 02:37:51,000
And his father was an architect.

2063
02:37:51,000 --> 02:37:56,000
Father's an architect and designed many of the church's built in the

2064
02:37:56,000 --> 02:37:57,000
Emerllo in the 1980s.

2065
02:37:57,000 --> 02:37:58,000
Good pick to.

2066
02:37:58,000 --> 02:38:01,000
Does anybody want to make a motion?

2067
02:38:01,000 --> 02:38:06,000
Mayor Will.

2068
02:38:06,000 --> 02:38:07,000
Yeah.

2069
02:38:07,000 --> 02:38:12,000
I'll make a motion that we approve Jason Boyet in replaceable independent for the board of review.

2070
02:38:12,000 --> 02:38:14,000
Len Marx and historic district.

2071
02:38:14,000 --> 02:38:15,000
Second.

2072
02:38:15,000 --> 02:38:16,000
We have a motion to second.

2073
02:38:16,000 --> 02:38:18,000
Any discussion from the council?

2074
02:38:18,000 --> 02:38:24,000
I just want to say I know I thought I saw Lyndon here.

2075
02:38:24,000 --> 02:38:25,000
So.

2076
02:38:25,000 --> 02:38:27,000
So thank you for serving on the board.

2077
02:38:27,000 --> 02:38:30,000
Lynd is now in with the mothership at the city.

2078
02:38:30,000 --> 02:38:32,000
So she can't be on the board anymore.

2079
02:38:32,000 --> 02:38:34,000
But I appreciate your time on it.

2080
02:38:34,000 --> 02:38:35,000
We've put her to more work.

2081
02:38:35,000 --> 02:38:39,000
Is there any any discussion from the audience?

2082
02:38:39,000 --> 02:38:41,000
We have a motion to second.

2083
02:38:41,000 --> 02:38:43,000
All those in favor please signify by saying aye.

2084
02:38:43,000 --> 02:38:44,000
Aye.

2085
02:38:44,000 --> 02:38:45,000
Opposed.

2086
02:38:45,000 --> 02:38:46,000
Negquent.

2087
02:38:46,000 --> 02:38:48,000
Opposed .

2088
02:38:48,000 --> 02:38:49,000
Oppbest things that passes.

2089
02:38:49,000 --> 02:38:51,000
Okay.

2090
02:38:51,000 --> 02:38:54,000
The other one that I saw in-

2091
02:38:54,000 --> 02:38:56,000
Wait a second?

2092
02:38:56,000 --> 02:38:58,000
Construction it.

2093
02:38:58,000 --> 02:38:59,000
Yes.

2094
02:38:59,000 --> 02:39:00,000
Yes.

2095
02:39:00,000 --> 02:39:01,000
It is.

2096
02:39:01,000 --> 02:39:03,000
Let me Yeah.

2097
02:39:03,000 --> 02:39:04,000
Okay.

2098
02:39:04,000 --> 02:39:06,000
Construction Advisory.

2099
02:39:06,000 --> 02:39:07,000
Let me sitama.

2100
02:39:07,000 --> 02:39:08,000
The city.

2101
02:39:08,000 --> 02:39:10,000
The committee suggests a real point.

2102
02:39:10,000 --> 02:39:11,000
Je brain.

2103
02:39:11,000 --> 02:39:13,000
I strongly recommend we do that.

2104
02:39:13,000 --> 02:39:17,920
I'm not sure if y'all saw this, but Richard Constancio was appointed to fill in air.

2105
02:39:17,920 --> 02:39:19,720
He's only been on the boards since 15.

2106
02:39:19,720 --> 02:39:21,280
Yes, that's an error.

2107
02:39:21,280 --> 02:39:22,280
I thought it might be.

2108
02:39:22,280 --> 02:39:23,280
Yes.

2109
02:39:23,280 --> 02:39:24,800
So I hope you'll consider him for re-appointment.

2110
02:39:24,800 --> 02:39:25,800
He's done a great job.

2111
02:39:25,800 --> 02:39:26,800
He's just getting settled in.

2112
02:39:26,800 --> 02:39:27,800
Right.

2113
02:39:27,800 --> 02:39:28,800
That was just some of you guys.

2114
02:39:28,800 --> 02:39:29,800
Yeah.

2115
02:39:29,800 --> 02:39:31,280
Francis helped me clarify that.

2116
02:39:31,280 --> 02:39:32,280
Okay.

2117
02:39:32,280 --> 02:39:33,840
Then the other one that was suggested is Ron Johnson.

2118
02:39:33,840 --> 02:39:38,280
I think that would replace Frank who's served admirably and done a huge amount of work

2119
02:39:38,280 --> 02:39:40,080
on that board.

2120
02:39:40,080 --> 02:39:45,680
Ron Johnson also fits right in that those foot prints he's a plumber has extensive history

2121
02:39:45,680 --> 02:39:48,440
here and has offered his services.

2122
02:39:48,440 --> 02:39:54,520
The board with the subcommittee suggested Jeff Bryant, Ron Johnson.

2123
02:39:54,520 --> 02:39:59,000
I'm just asking you, consider Richard Constancio also an executive motion.

2124
02:39:59,000 --> 02:40:03,800
I'd also like to ask that we make these motions individually for people.

2125
02:40:03,800 --> 02:40:04,800
Okay.

2126
02:40:04,800 --> 02:40:09,600
Mayor, I think that though, with Ron, I think there's an issue on with the City Secretary

2127
02:40:09,600 --> 02:40:13,680
and I think he might not be, I would draw right now.

2128
02:40:13,680 --> 02:40:14,680
Okay.

2129
02:40:14,680 --> 02:40:19,160
So can we take action on the two and we'll consider that last appointment later.

2130
02:40:19,160 --> 02:40:20,480
Do you all mind if we do?

2131
02:40:20,480 --> 02:40:21,480
What about Eddie?

2132
02:40:21,480 --> 02:40:24,040
What about Eddie Barron now?

2133
02:40:24,040 --> 02:40:26,720
Eddie Barron is a very qualified person.

2134
02:40:26,720 --> 02:40:29,280
Has a huge amount of experience subcommittee.

2135
02:40:29,280 --> 02:40:30,280
What?

2136
02:40:30,280 --> 02:40:31,280
Was he the engineer?

2137
02:40:31,280 --> 02:40:32,280
Yes.

2138
02:40:32,280 --> 02:40:36,920
42 years experience as an engineer has had a lot of projects obviously well qualified.

2139
02:40:36,920 --> 02:40:38,280
Yeah, that's why we popped them in there.

2140
02:40:38,280 --> 02:40:39,280
Yeah, that's why we had.

2141
02:40:39,320 --> 02:40:40,280
Okay, with that.

2142
02:40:40,280 --> 02:40:41,280
I'm good with it.

2143
02:40:41,280 --> 02:40:42,960
I just want to make sure we still have a plumber.

2144
02:40:42,960 --> 02:40:47,240
As a consensus, well, we really don't then have a plumber.

2145
02:40:47,240 --> 02:40:48,240
I don't believe.

2146
02:40:48,240 --> 02:40:49,240
Do we?

2147
02:40:49,240 --> 02:40:52,520
Well, that's been what we've tried to do is get one from each trade area, but he doesn't.

2148
02:40:52,520 --> 02:40:53,520
He doesn't.

2149
02:40:53,520 --> 02:40:54,520
Eddie Barron's solid.

2150
02:40:54,520 --> 02:40:55,520
I mean, I'm good with him.

2151
02:40:55,520 --> 02:40:56,520
Okay.

2152
02:40:56,520 --> 02:41:01,080
Do we, we can also consider, yes, we want to do these individually.

2153
02:41:01,080 --> 02:41:08,200
So could I hear a motion, the suggestions have been Jeff Bryant reappointment, Richard Constancio reappointment.

2154
02:41:08,200 --> 02:41:13,200
He's been in a short term and possibly Ron Johnson, but could I hear a motion for them individually?

2155
02:41:13,200 --> 02:41:17,440
Mary, I'm going to read a point, Jeff Bryant.

2156
02:41:17,440 --> 02:41:18,440
Exactly.

2157
02:41:18,440 --> 02:41:19,440
We have a second.

2158
02:41:19,440 --> 02:41:21,440
Any discussion from the council?

2159
02:41:21,440 --> 02:41:24,240
Any discussion from the audience?

2160
02:41:24,240 --> 02:41:26,520
All those in favor please signify by saying aye.

2161
02:41:26,520 --> 02:41:27,520
Aye.

2162
02:41:27,520 --> 02:41:28,520
Opposed?

2163
02:41:28,520 --> 02:41:30,280
That passes with a five-o vote.

2164
02:41:30,280 --> 02:41:32,880
The next one, any other nominations.

2165
02:41:32,880 --> 02:41:33,680
Mary, I'm going to move it.

2166
02:41:33,680 --> 02:41:35,680
We reappoint Richard Constancio.

2167
02:41:35,680 --> 02:41:36,680
We have a motion.

2168
02:41:36,680 --> 02:41:37,680
We have a second.

2169
02:41:37,680 --> 02:41:38,680
We have a motion in the second.

2170
02:41:38,680 --> 02:41:41,680
Any discussion from the council?

2171
02:41:41,680 --> 02:41:43,680
Any discussion from the audience?

2172
02:41:43,680 --> 02:41:46,680
All those in favor please signify by saying aye.

2173
02:41:46,680 --> 02:41:47,680
Aye.

2174
02:41:47,680 --> 02:41:48,680
Aye.

2175
02:41:48,680 --> 02:41:49,680
Opposed?

2176
02:41:49,680 --> 02:41:51,680
That passes with a five-o vote.

2177
02:41:51,680 --> 02:41:55,680
The other name that was mentioned, do we have any motion for Ron Johnson?

2178
02:41:55,680 --> 02:41:56,680
Well, I'm sorry.

2179
02:41:56,680 --> 02:41:57,680
Eddie Barron.

2180
02:41:57,680 --> 02:41:58,680
Yes.

2181
02:41:58,680 --> 02:41:59,680
Yes.

2182
02:41:59,680 --> 02:42:00,680
Eric Barron.

2183
02:42:00,680 --> 02:42:03,680
Mr. Miami, I just asked for a point of clarification.

2184
02:42:03,680 --> 02:42:04,680
Please.

2185
02:42:05,680 --> 02:42:16,680
Is there any prohibition in the ballaus or rules that would preclude this Eric, Eddie Barron from serving in the third?

2186
02:42:16,680 --> 02:42:23,680
Is there, would that hurt you talk about Frank Wilbur and I guess was a farmer?

2187
02:42:23,680 --> 02:42:24,680
I do not believe so.

2188
02:42:24,680 --> 02:42:28,680
I think we are just trying to get a cross section of expertise.

2189
02:42:28,680 --> 02:42:29,680
No.

2190
02:42:29,680 --> 02:42:37,680
It's unlike the community development committee where we have to have people in different sections of the town.

2191
02:42:37,680 --> 02:42:41,680
We've had great experiences with some of these people.

2192
02:42:41,680 --> 02:42:50,680
There is no one, and I can ask staff to comment, but I heard unbelievably good comments about our current plumber that's on there.

2193
02:42:50,680 --> 02:42:58,680
He's done extraordinary work to help us stay up with things and I think he's learned as he's gone through this process more about what the requirements are in the state requirements.

2194
02:42:58,680 --> 02:43:00,680
And federal requirements and all that.

2195
02:43:00,680 --> 02:43:11,680
So, it's done a youngman's effort to keep that thing moving and to talk to other people in his peer group that are out doing this work every day in the field.

2196
02:43:11,680 --> 02:43:14,680
But I'm the council member, I'm not really sure you're question about it.

2197
02:43:14,680 --> 02:43:15,680
I'm very.

2198
02:43:15,680 --> 02:43:16,680
Frank's plumbing.

2199
02:43:16,680 --> 02:43:18,680
He's been at more meetings with.

2200
02:43:18,680 --> 02:43:22,680
I think the other reason we suggested replacing him, he's been on air since 2000.

2201
02:43:22,680 --> 02:43:23,680
I don't disagree.

2202
02:43:23,680 --> 02:43:25,680
I just want to ask one clarification.

2203
02:43:25,680 --> 02:43:28,680
This may know this does this board.

2204
02:43:28,680 --> 02:43:31,680
Some of our boards have trade specific spots.

2205
02:43:31,680 --> 02:43:33,680
Is this one of them?

2206
02:43:33,680 --> 02:43:34,680
I'm sorry.

2207
02:43:34,680 --> 02:43:35,680
Okay.

2208
02:43:35,680 --> 02:43:37,680
Well, I think if you.

2209
02:43:37,680 --> 02:43:39,680
It does have.

2210
02:43:39,680 --> 02:43:43,680
Can we can we get clarification out while we go to the next one or Scott?

2211
02:43:43,680 --> 02:43:45,680
Do you know off top of your head?

2212
02:43:45,680 --> 02:43:46,680
The requirements.

2213
02:43:46,680 --> 02:43:50,680
This is Scott McDonald building safety and various other things.

2214
02:43:50,680 --> 02:43:52,680
Animal men go off air.

2215
02:43:52,680 --> 02:43:53,680
Go ahead Scott.

2216
02:43:53,680 --> 02:43:54,680
Yes, Mayor.

2217
02:43:54,680 --> 02:43:58,680
The board is aligned with each of the trades so that the plumber.

2218
02:43:58,680 --> 02:44:02,680
The board specifically states if you're taking a plumber off or putting a plumber on.

2219
02:44:02,680 --> 02:44:03,680
So you need a plumber.

2220
02:44:03,680 --> 02:44:07,680
An electrician heating cooling and an engineer.

2221
02:44:07,680 --> 02:44:10,680
An electrical contractor architect.

2222
02:44:10,680 --> 02:44:12,680
And then you have an individual at large.

2223
02:44:12,680 --> 02:44:13,680
Okay.

2224
02:44:13,680 --> 02:44:14,680
I'd be interested.

2225
02:44:14,680 --> 02:44:16,680
Will Warren's going to come off and you need to replace him with a plumber.

2226
02:44:16,680 --> 02:44:19,680
Or he'll be in at least in the position until it's replaced.

2227
02:44:19,680 --> 02:44:23,680
We've taken action on Jeff Bryant and Richard Constantio agreed.

2228
02:44:23,680 --> 02:44:26,680
Yeah, we suggest we wait and do a little more homework.

2229
02:44:26,680 --> 02:44:27,680
I agree.

2230
02:44:27,680 --> 02:44:28,680
You guys go back to work.

2231
02:44:28,680 --> 02:44:29,680
Okay, Scott.

2232
02:44:29,680 --> 02:44:30,680
Thank you.

2233
02:44:30,680 --> 02:44:31,680
You got it.

2234
02:44:31,680 --> 02:44:32,680
Okay.

2235
02:44:32,680 --> 02:44:34,680
Next item is.

2236
02:44:34,680 --> 02:44:35,680
Well, so.

2237
02:44:35,680 --> 02:44:36,680
Go ahead.

2238
02:44:36,680 --> 02:44:37,680
Do you want to do a coil creek pad?

2239
02:44:37,680 --> 02:44:39,680
Please, absolutely.

2240
02:44:39,680 --> 02:44:42,680
I take a nomination for a coil creek grid.

2241
02:44:42,680 --> 02:44:45,680
Obviously, we all know that they are suggested by the pad.

2242
02:44:45,680 --> 02:44:47,680
They fit their qualifications.

2243
02:44:47,680 --> 02:44:49,680
We're pretty much giving a approval of that.

2244
02:44:49,680 --> 02:44:52,680
Well, Mr. I think we need to delay this one for.

2245
02:44:52,680 --> 02:44:55,680
Similar reason that he may not be eligible.

2246
02:44:55,680 --> 02:44:56,680
All right.

2247
02:44:56,680 --> 02:44:57,680
It's very good.

2248
02:44:57,680 --> 02:44:58,680
Okay.

2249
02:44:58,680 --> 02:44:59,680
Okay. Now we.

2250
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:08,000
We have one that I hope we can get through tonight, but we may not be able to, but let me give you some rundown on this and I'll give you some history and then you see.

2251
02:45:08,000 --> 02:45:19,000
So, and I may actually ask, because we have a person, a staff person that serves with these people to make sure they're spending the money right, and she does a really good job, but Potter County event center.

2252
02:45:19,000 --> 02:45:31,000
The chairman, Glenn McManamy, has asked, we have day au Williams, who would be a reappointment. He was asked to serve in 16 to fill out a job. So, he under our policy.

2253
02:45:31,000 --> 02:45:37,000
Mayor Harpole and Dell Williams is actually appointed by Potter County. You're two that are up for reappointment.

2254
02:45:37,000 --> 02:45:40,000
We only have two. Well, I had three yellowed on my sheet. That's fine.

2255
02:45:40,000 --> 02:45:44,000
Would be Mr. Bivance and Mr. Ruffer.

2256
02:45:44,000 --> 02:45:50,000
Okay, now we understand these people have long served on these committees. Mr. McManamy has two.

2257
02:45:50,000 --> 02:45:57,000
This, we are not the only group that serves on this committee. There are people from other venues that do.

2258
02:45:57,000 --> 02:46:04,000
And in those cases like on the Canadian water authority, we don't want to lose our stature and our tenure when there's a group of people meeting.

2259
02:46:04,000 --> 02:46:16,000
So, the only argument that I have about let's consider possible reappointments. You may not wish to do that, but.

2260
02:46:16,000 --> 02:46:31,000
Well, again, you know, the only reason that we have this is to follow the term limit kind of policy, but that said when there are exceptional cases, especially when people are in the middle of something or have you unique.

2261
02:46:31,000 --> 02:46:40,000
The point of, you need to point of unique information to help these boards function. I think that's completely us to wave that and determine who the right person is.

2262
02:46:40,000 --> 02:46:48,000
It is and it's wise and actually the chairman is that they both be reappointed. That's Mr. Glenn McManamy who served a long time too, but knows what to do.

2263
02:46:48,000 --> 02:46:58,000
And let me tell you that this isn't just a fluff board. These guys get out and do a lot of work in the community, but they do physical work at the events and other things.

2264
02:46:58,000 --> 02:47:10,000
So it's a hard working board. I don't have that in my packet as far as I'm sorry. Let me look and see the venue district, right? Yes, sir.

2265
02:47:10,000 --> 02:47:13,000
I got it in mind, but you may not have it.

2266
02:47:13,000 --> 02:47:21,000
Mr. Mayer, if it, if it, if the council would, and it holds me, I would like for us to pass on this to see you.

2267
02:47:21,000 --> 02:47:24,000
I agree. Okay, let's pass.

2268
02:47:24,000 --> 02:47:29,000
I was just going to give it to that, but if we're going to pass, let me get my sheet.

2269
02:47:29,000 --> 02:47:34,000
Let's pass and we'll have more discussion about that. So subcommittee, would you go back to work on this one?

2270
02:47:34,000 --> 02:47:38,000
Do you have some homework? Yes, that's good.

2271
02:47:38,000 --> 02:47:43,000
Okay, let's see if there's any others and then what we want to do with these last ones.

2272
02:47:43,000 --> 02:47:47,000
Okay, so, let's try to show you what it was.

2273
02:47:47,000 --> 02:47:52,000
Michelle, our assistant city manager that also monitors this.

2274
02:47:52,000 --> 02:48:00,000
I would like you to tell us what you've heard because the Emerald Hospital District Board of Managers was recommended by the subcommittee.

2275
02:48:00,000 --> 02:48:05,000
And we did today get Dr. Biggs application.

2276
02:48:05,000 --> 02:48:12,000
I personally think he's an excellent candidate for this. We also got a few days ago or a while ago.

2277
02:48:13,000 --> 02:48:21,000
Medea, lace and more parameter. And her application is also stellar. And my view, I don't know either of those.

2278
02:48:21,000 --> 02:48:28,000
I had a lengthy conversation with her. She's very, she's well qualified and she's very excited about being on the board.

2279
02:48:28,000 --> 02:48:38,000
I would personally like to re-appoint Smith Ellis and then do Mindy Lou and play some Mark Lawxton and then do Richard Biggs in place because we had three seats.

2280
02:48:38,000 --> 02:48:39,000
Is that correct?

2281
02:48:39,000 --> 02:48:43,000
I think that's a wise choice from my standpoint.

2282
02:48:43,000 --> 02:48:46,000
Is there any discussion from the council about those items?

2283
02:48:46,000 --> 02:48:53,000
Mr. Mayor, if council member, Berkett would make that in a form of emotion, I'd be glad to second day.

2284
02:48:53,000 --> 02:48:56,000
So let's do an individual if we could.

2285
02:48:56,000 --> 02:48:58,000
I don't have that.

2286
02:48:58,000 --> 02:49:00,000
Okay, so, yeah.

2287
02:49:00,000 --> 02:49:03,000
I know, but who are they replacing here?

2288
02:49:03,000 --> 02:49:05,000
Well, Biggs is coming down here.

2289
02:49:05,000 --> 02:49:07,000
Well, let's do the reappointment first.

2290
02:49:07,000 --> 02:49:10,000
We could.

2291
02:49:10,000 --> 02:49:13,000
Mayor, I wouldn't believe the list we have up here.

2292
02:49:13,000 --> 02:49:15,000
A small force, the paper.

2293
02:49:15,000 --> 02:49:19,000
The reappointment of someone that was just elected as chairman.

2294
02:49:19,000 --> 02:49:21,000
I'll, I'll make the motion.

2295
02:49:21,000 --> 02:49:26,000
Mr. Mayor, I move that we appoint Smith Ellis to the hospital district board of managers.

2296
02:49:26,000 --> 02:49:30,000
And would you like to second that, Mr. Berkett?

2297
02:49:30,000 --> 02:49:31,000
Yes, second.

2298
02:49:31,000 --> 02:49:32,000
He'd like to second that.

2299
02:49:32,000 --> 02:49:34,000
So any discussion from the council?

2300
02:49:35,000 --> 02:49:38,000
You guys get to watch us make sausage today.

2301
02:49:38,000 --> 02:49:40,000
Any discussion from the council?

2302
02:49:40,000 --> 02:49:43,000
Any discussion from the audience?

2303
02:49:43,000 --> 02:49:45,000
Calling the vote all those in favor.

2304
02:49:45,000 --> 02:49:47,000
Please signify by saying aye.

2305
02:49:47,000 --> 02:49:48,000
Aye.

2306
02:49:48,000 --> 02:49:49,000
Opposed.

2307
02:49:49,000 --> 02:49:52,000
Abstensions that passes with a five-o vote.

2308
02:49:52,000 --> 02:49:53,000
With that?

2309
02:49:53,000 --> 02:49:56,000
Mayor, I would also like to suggest,

2310
02:49:56,000 --> 02:50:00,000
Mindy-Lose, see more parameter and replace a marklockstone.

2311
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:01,000
Thank you.

2312
02:50:01,000 --> 02:50:02,000
Do we have a second?

2313
02:50:02,000 --> 02:50:03,000
Second.

2314
02:50:03,000 --> 02:50:04,000
Second.

2315
02:50:04,000 --> 02:50:06,000
We have a discussion from the council.

2316
02:50:06,000 --> 02:50:08,000
Or from the audience.

2317
02:50:08,000 --> 02:50:10,000
I'd entertain a motion.

2318
02:50:10,000 --> 02:50:11,000
Or we have a motion.

2319
02:50:11,000 --> 02:50:12,000
Excuse me.

2320
02:50:12,000 --> 02:50:13,000
We have a second.

2321
02:50:13,000 --> 02:50:15,000
All those in favor, please signify by saying aye.

2322
02:50:15,000 --> 02:50:16,000
Aye.

2323
02:50:16,000 --> 02:50:17,000
Opposed.

2324
02:50:17,000 --> 02:50:20,000
Abstensions that passes with a five-o vote.

2325
02:50:20,000 --> 02:50:22,000
We have one last spot open.

2326
02:50:22,000 --> 02:50:24,000
Anybody want to make an nomination?

2327
02:50:24,000 --> 02:50:25,000
Would you please.

2328
02:50:25,000 --> 02:50:26,000
Would you please.

2329
02:50:26,000 --> 02:50:31,000
Mayor, I move that we appoint Richard Diggs to replace.

2330
02:50:31,000 --> 02:50:35,000
No, I'm just speaking.

2331
02:50:35,000 --> 02:50:36,000
It's just being.

2332
02:50:36,000 --> 02:50:37,000
Abstual.

2333
02:50:37,000 --> 02:50:38,000
Abstual.

2334
02:50:38,000 --> 02:50:39,000
I'm just speaking.

2335
02:50:39,000 --> 02:50:40,000
Abstual.

2336
02:50:40,000 --> 02:50:41,000
Abstual.

2337
02:50:41,000 --> 02:50:42,000
Abstual.

2338
02:50:42,000 --> 02:50:46,000
We appoint Richard Diggs to replace Chuck's feet.

2339
02:50:46,000 --> 02:50:47,000
And we have a second.

2340
02:50:47,000 --> 02:50:48,000
Second.

2341
02:50:48,000 --> 02:50:49,000
Second.

2342
02:50:49,000 --> 02:50:50,000
Any discussion from the council?

2343
02:50:50,000 --> 02:50:52,000
Any discussion from the audience?

2344
02:50:52,000 --> 02:50:54,000
Does anybody out there know what we're doing?

2345
02:50:54,000 --> 02:50:55,000
Okay.

2346
02:50:55,000 --> 02:50:56,000
Believe it or not.

2347
02:50:56,000 --> 02:50:57,000
We spent hours on it.

2348
02:50:57,000 --> 02:50:59,000
And there's a poll packet on the stuff.

2349
02:50:59,000 --> 02:51:00,000
And I know you don't believe us, but that's okay.

2350
02:51:00,000 --> 02:51:01,000
Okay.

2351
02:51:01,000 --> 02:51:02,000
Okay.

2352
02:51:02,000 --> 02:51:04,000
So we have a motion in a second.

2353
02:51:04,000 --> 02:51:06,000
And I believe it's for Dr. Richard Biggs.

2354
02:51:06,000 --> 02:51:12,000
Now I want to clarify for council that it happens that his son is an attorney.

2355
02:51:12,000 --> 02:51:15,000
And he has another son that serves on another board.

2356
02:51:15,000 --> 02:51:22,000
This is a well qualified person that would give great support to that group.

2357
02:51:22,000 --> 02:51:26,000
So all those in favor please signify by saying aye.

2358
02:51:27,000 --> 02:51:28,000
Opposed.

2359
02:51:28,000 --> 02:51:29,000
Abstensions.

2360
02:51:29,000 --> 02:51:31,000
That passes with a five o'clock.

2361
02:51:31,000 --> 02:51:32,000
All right.

2362
02:51:32,000 --> 02:51:34,000
Let me take account of where we are.

2363
02:51:34,000 --> 02:51:35,000
All right.

2364
02:51:35,000 --> 02:51:39,000
So here's another one that we have.

2365
02:51:39,000 --> 02:51:40,000
Let me go back and recap this.

2366
02:51:40,000 --> 02:51:44,000
And I'm asking somebody to picture that I'm saying this correctly.

2367
02:51:44,000 --> 02:51:53,000
You know the council has quietly been working with a group of citizens around the town for a period of over two years to develop a senior center.

2368
02:51:53,000 --> 02:51:54,000
We hired somebody to run that.

2369
02:51:54,000 --> 02:51:57,000
We're now placing that board in place.

2370
02:51:57,000 --> 02:52:00,000
And we've had suggestions.

2371
02:52:00,000 --> 02:52:07,000
And I would like to read some of those and tell you that I hope we get act on some of these.

2372
02:52:07,000 --> 02:52:09,000
Some of these appointments are not ours.

2373
02:52:09,000 --> 02:52:10,000
They're product counties.

2374
02:52:10,000 --> 02:52:11,000
Others.

2375
02:52:11,000 --> 02:52:14,000
But we have the ability to point four positions on this board.

2376
02:52:14,000 --> 02:52:17,000
I think out of ten open positions.

2377
02:52:17,000 --> 02:52:18,000
Is that?

2378
02:52:18,000 --> 02:52:20,000
Linda, do you know if that's correct?

2379
02:52:20,000 --> 02:52:21,000
Okay.

2380
02:52:21,000 --> 02:52:38,000
So we have 11 of them that are prescribed by how we set this up.

2381
02:52:38,000 --> 02:52:40,000
But we aren't trying.

2382
02:52:40,000 --> 02:52:42,000
And we're trying to do the four at large.

2383
02:52:42,000 --> 02:52:45,000
Do I don't even have the list of the others here?

2384
02:52:45,000 --> 02:52:46,000
Are we going to?

2385
02:52:46,000 --> 02:52:47,000
Are we dealing with those tonight?

2386
02:52:48,000 --> 02:52:50,000
I thought just the at large.

2387
02:52:50,000 --> 02:52:55,000
I think our group was catching on to all this.

2388
02:52:55,000 --> 02:52:57,000
Malarkey we passed on to them.

2389
02:52:57,000 --> 02:52:59,000
So they probably just looked at those four.

2390
02:52:59,000 --> 02:53:01,000
We just did the four at large.

2391
02:53:01,000 --> 02:53:03,000
And so if you.

2392
02:53:03,000 --> 02:53:05,000
You have the other list.

2393
02:53:05,000 --> 02:53:10,000
If you would and those are really prescribed and they fit that prescriptions.

2394
02:53:10,000 --> 02:53:12,000
So I hope you'll consider those.

2395
02:53:12,000 --> 02:53:13,000
Do you have any mayor?

2396
02:53:13,000 --> 02:53:15,000
How many positions are we for?

2397
02:53:15,000 --> 02:53:18,000
And there's four large out of those 15 and the four at large.

2398
02:53:18,000 --> 02:53:21,000
You're given a suggestion on is what I think we need to talk about.

2399
02:53:21,000 --> 02:53:23,000
Oh, if we're going to see 10 more.

2400
02:53:23,000 --> 02:53:24,000
11 new applications.

2401
02:53:24,000 --> 02:53:29,000
Can we just do the at largest tonight and look at the other if we certainly could.

2402
02:53:29,000 --> 02:53:30,000
I think.

2403
02:53:30,000 --> 02:53:32,000
I mean, Francis, do we know if we've received that question?

2404
02:53:32,000 --> 02:53:33,000
I'll go ahead.

2405
02:53:33,000 --> 02:53:34,000
I'll go ahead.

2406
02:53:34,000 --> 02:53:35,000
Please.

2407
02:53:35,000 --> 02:53:36,000
I can tell you who the.

2408
02:53:36,000 --> 02:53:39,000
The organizations are the Emerald Senior Citizens Association.

2409
02:53:39,000 --> 02:53:42,000
And that board would like for you to appoint Charlene Cole.

2410
02:53:42,000 --> 02:53:44,000
They held top senior center.

2411
02:53:44,000 --> 02:53:48,000
And that group would like for you to appoint 10 Williams.

2412
02:53:48,000 --> 02:53:53,000
The Wesley Community Center and that group would like for you to appoint.

2413
02:53:53,000 --> 02:53:54,000
Liz.

2414
02:53:54,000 --> 02:53:55,000
Um, alongside.

2415
02:53:55,000 --> 02:53:59,000
A panel area agency on aging is Melissa Carter.

2416
02:53:59,000 --> 02:54:03,000
The Mary E. Biven Foundation is Judy day.

2417
02:54:03,000 --> 02:54:07,000
I should be reading you that the the their positions as well.

2418
02:54:07,000 --> 02:54:10,000
Judy days the president of the Biven Foundation.

2419
02:54:10,000 --> 02:54:12,000
The Emerald area foundation.

2420
02:54:12,000 --> 02:54:16,000
Um, Clay Sterling, who's president of the area foundation.

2421
02:54:16,000 --> 02:54:21,000
Baptist Community Services, which is Steve Dowrempel, who is president of BCS.

2422
02:54:21,000 --> 02:54:25,000
United Way of Emerald King and would like for you to.

2423
02:54:25,000 --> 02:54:29,000
Uh, to appoint Mary Coin, who's a board member for United Way.

2424
02:54:29,000 --> 02:54:32,000
This is your ambassador's coalition.

2425
02:54:32,000 --> 02:54:38,000
Would prefer that you appoint Jilline workman, who is president of the Senior Ambassador's coalition.

2426
02:54:39,000 --> 02:54:42,000
Emerald College has asked that you appoint Tony Gray.

2427
02:54:42,000 --> 02:54:49,000
Who's the dean of continuing the education and is in charge of the downtown Emerald campus.

2428
02:54:49,000 --> 02:54:53,000
Uh, and then, um, the city of Emerald representative.

2429
02:54:53,000 --> 02:54:56,000
The, um, the ass there is that you appoint Terry Price.

2430
02:54:56,000 --> 02:54:59,000
Who is a member of the Parks and Recreation Board.

2431
02:54:59,000 --> 02:55:02,000
And I think I was trying to get Terry Price to stand up as an employee of exile.

2432
02:55:02,000 --> 02:55:04,000
I think she left with them.

2433
02:55:04,000 --> 02:55:06,000
Oh, there she is. Okay.

2434
02:55:06,000 --> 02:55:07,000
All right.

2435
02:55:07,000 --> 02:55:11,000
So folks, let me kind of go back and explain how this explain how this happened.

2436
02:55:11,000 --> 02:55:15,000
We very much wanted the individual senior groups to suggest somebody.

2437
02:55:15,000 --> 02:55:19,000
And I think that's where we got those first three.

2438
02:55:19,000 --> 02:55:23,000
Panel area and agency, of course, a part of PRPC.

2439
02:55:23,000 --> 02:55:26,000
They have somebody who works in this every day and that's Melissa Carter.

2440
02:55:26,000 --> 02:55:29,000
The other foundations are funding this.

2441
02:55:29,000 --> 02:55:31,000
They deserve a seat at the table.

2442
02:55:31,000 --> 02:55:34,000
I hope they have, I'm sure they've made good at poems.

2443
02:55:34,000 --> 02:55:37,000
I hope, uh, will honor what they've asked for.

2444
02:55:37,000 --> 02:55:42,000
Obviously, United Way, Senior Ambassadors Coalition, Emerald College.

2445
02:55:42,000 --> 02:55:46,000
Everybody, hopefully, knows Tony Graham where she's done at that college.

2446
02:55:46,000 --> 02:55:48,000
Uh, for people that are in need.

2447
02:55:48,000 --> 02:55:53,000
And, um, so, I'm going to ask that we,

2448
02:55:53,000 --> 02:55:58,000
Well, I'm going to break the rule and ask if we can consider these first.

2449
02:55:58,000 --> 02:56:03,000
Uh, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11.

2450
02:56:03,000 --> 02:56:04,000
11.

2451
02:56:04,000 --> 02:56:05,000
11.

2452
02:56:05,000 --> 02:56:06,000
11.

2453
02:56:06,000 --> 02:56:07,000
They're suggested.

2454
02:56:07,000 --> 02:56:10,000
And then we go back and deal with their at large, which the committee discussed.

2455
02:56:10,000 --> 02:56:12,000
So I'd entertain a motion for those 11.

2456
02:56:12,000 --> 02:56:14,000
Suggested us by the agencies.

2457
02:56:14,000 --> 02:56:15,000
They're going to operate this.

2458
02:56:15,000 --> 02:56:16,000
Yes.

2459
02:56:16,000 --> 02:56:17,000
I mean, if that we approve.

2460
02:56:17,000 --> 02:56:18,000
Those.

2461
02:56:18,000 --> 02:56:20,000
Those 11 that we're just regular.

2462
02:56:20,000 --> 02:56:21,000
Okay.

2463
02:56:21,000 --> 02:56:22,000
And we have the sheet on them.

2464
02:56:22,000 --> 02:56:23,000
We do have.

2465
02:56:23,000 --> 02:56:24,000
Yeah.

2466
02:56:24,000 --> 02:56:25,000
We got a motion.

2467
02:56:25,000 --> 02:56:26,000
We have a motion.

2468
02:56:26,000 --> 02:56:27,000
She knows them all.

2469
02:56:27,000 --> 02:56:28,000
They have a motion.

2470
02:56:28,000 --> 02:56:29,000
And they're all great appointees.

2471
02:56:29,000 --> 02:56:30,000
There.

2472
02:56:30,000 --> 02:56:31,000
We have it.

2473
02:56:31,000 --> 02:56:32,000
Yeah.

2474
02:56:32,000 --> 02:56:34,000
We've all found it now with all our other stuff.

2475
02:56:34,000 --> 02:56:36,000
So we have a motion.

2476
02:56:36,000 --> 02:56:37,000
And we have a second.

2477
02:56:37,000 --> 02:56:41,000
And it was there any discussion further than what we've already done from the council.

2478
02:56:41,000 --> 02:56:43,000
Or from the floor.

2479
02:56:43,000 --> 02:56:44,000
I'd enter.

2480
02:56:44,000 --> 02:56:45,000
We will vote.

2481
02:56:45,000 --> 02:56:46,000
Vote.

2482
02:56:46,000 --> 02:56:47,000
And all those in favor.

2483
02:56:47,000 --> 02:56:49,000
Please signify by saying aye.

2484
02:56:49,000 --> 02:56:50,000
Aye.

2485
02:56:50,000 --> 02:56:51,000
Aye.

2486
02:56:51,000 --> 02:56:52,000
Opposed.

2487
02:56:52,000 --> 02:56:53,000
Extensions.

2488
02:56:53,000 --> 02:56:54,000
That passes the 50 vote.

2489
02:56:54,000 --> 02:56:56,000
Now let's go to those four suggested ones.

2490
02:56:56,000 --> 02:56:57,000
Mr. Mayor, if you would.

2491
02:56:57,000 --> 02:57:00,000
I would like to offer a name for the consideration.

2492
02:57:00,000 --> 02:57:05,000
Because here you have Mr. Lane workman who you just approved.

2493
02:57:05,000 --> 02:57:10,000
Up here as a representative from the senior and.

2494
02:57:10,000 --> 02:57:12,000
Ambassador's coalition.

2495
02:57:12,000 --> 02:57:15,000
So she made it under our list for opt for.

2496
02:57:15,000 --> 02:57:16,000
At large also.

2497
02:57:16,000 --> 02:57:17,000
Yeah.

2498
02:57:17,000 --> 02:57:18,000
Okay.

2499
02:57:18,000 --> 02:57:19,000
What do you have a lot of.

2500
02:57:19,000 --> 02:57:22,000
Mr. Shirley heard.

2501
02:57:22,000 --> 02:57:24,000
Have you been able to talk to her?

2502
02:57:24,000 --> 02:57:25,000
Yes.

2503
02:57:25,000 --> 02:57:26,000
Do we have to talk to her?

2504
02:57:26,000 --> 02:57:27,000
Yes.

2505
02:57:27,000 --> 02:57:28,000
We don't.

2506
02:57:28,000 --> 02:57:29,000
She's there is a.

2507
02:57:29,000 --> 02:57:31,000
Her name is previously.

2508
02:57:31,000 --> 02:57:32,000
It's just mentioned.

2509
02:57:32,000 --> 02:57:33,000
It's on the.

2510
02:57:33,000 --> 02:57:34,000
If you look on the bottom.

2511
02:57:34,000 --> 02:57:35,000
Yes.

2512
02:57:35,000 --> 02:57:36,000
I got it.

2513
02:57:36,000 --> 02:57:37,000
And we've talked about her.

2514
02:57:37,000 --> 02:57:38,000
Yes.

2515
02:57:38,000 --> 02:57:39,000
For other things too.

2516
02:57:39,000 --> 02:57:41,000
So you know that we're.

2517
02:57:41,000 --> 02:57:42,000
Council.

2518
02:57:42,000 --> 02:57:45,000
I certainly entertained that as a substitute for.

2519
02:57:45,000 --> 02:57:46,000
Jelene workman who we.

2520
02:57:46,000 --> 02:57:50,000
The subcommittee simply duplicated that not knowing the other names.

2521
02:57:50,000 --> 02:57:51,000
She's.

2522
02:57:51,000 --> 02:57:52,000
Jelene workman's excellent.

2523
02:57:52,000 --> 02:57:53,000
But so would.

2524
02:57:54,000 --> 02:57:56,000
I would also like to even though we made.

2525
02:57:56,000 --> 02:57:57,000
The series of names are recommendation.

2526
02:57:57,000 --> 02:58:00,000
I had a really great conversation with Steve Hoyl today.

2527
02:58:00,000 --> 02:58:03,000
And I cannot dispute his passion for.

2528
02:58:03,000 --> 02:58:05,000
This mission.

2529
02:58:05,000 --> 02:58:06,000
In the committee.

2530
02:58:06,000 --> 02:58:07,000
So.

2531
02:58:07,000 --> 02:58:09,000
I know we recommended a few names.

2532
02:58:09,000 --> 02:58:10,000
And here I go.

2533
02:58:10,000 --> 02:58:11,000
Recommending a new one.

2534
02:58:11,000 --> 02:58:12,000
The 11.

2535
02:58:12,000 --> 02:58:14,000
But there's a great conversation.

2536
02:58:14,000 --> 02:58:16,000
And that's the kind of passion we need.

2537
02:58:16,000 --> 02:58:19,000
The only other one that's come up in this as we reviewed these.

2538
02:58:19,000 --> 02:58:22,000
And you had a huge task to go through all these boards.

2539
02:58:22,000 --> 02:58:23,000
Council member.

2540
02:58:23,000 --> 02:58:25,000
And I acknowledge because we did it.

2541
02:58:25,000 --> 02:58:26,000
Try to do it before.

2542
02:58:26,000 --> 02:58:30,000
We've had Deborah Cummings readings be suggested.

2543
02:58:30,000 --> 02:58:32,000
And she is on the list.

2544
02:58:32,000 --> 02:58:34,000
She lives in North.

2545
02:58:34,000 --> 02:58:35,000
West.

2546
02:58:35,000 --> 02:58:37,000
And she's been a resident 59 years.

2547
02:58:37,000 --> 02:58:38,000
I just don't want.

2548
02:58:38,000 --> 02:58:40,000
And I know Steve Hoyl.

2549
02:58:40,000 --> 02:58:41,000
I know he.

2550
02:58:41,000 --> 02:58:43,000
He worked very hard.

2551
02:58:43,000 --> 02:58:45,000
But.

2552
02:58:45,000 --> 02:58:46,000
Okay.

2553
02:58:46,000 --> 02:58:47,000
So let me.

2554
02:58:47,000 --> 02:58:48,000
Let me do this.

2555
02:58:48,000 --> 02:58:50,000
Do we mind going back.

2556
02:58:50,000 --> 02:58:53,000
I know that we have some that.

2557
02:58:53,000 --> 02:58:56,000
Pretty generally agreed on by.

2558
02:58:56,000 --> 02:59:00,000
You know, your suggestions and nobody's raised any concern.

2559
02:59:00,000 --> 02:59:03,000
Chris Bell and Wayne Woodward.

2560
02:59:03,000 --> 02:59:06,000
Janet buyers was there too.

2561
02:59:06,000 --> 02:59:07,000
And.

2562
02:59:07,000 --> 02:59:09,000
And Deborah Cummings.

2563
02:59:09,000 --> 02:59:10,000
Bob Goodrich.

2564
02:59:10,000 --> 02:59:12,000
And.

2565
02:59:12,000 --> 02:59:14,000
Steve Hoyl.

2566
02:59:14,000 --> 02:59:16,000
But we have three more appointments left.

2567
02:59:16,000 --> 02:59:18,000
And I really think that.

2568
02:59:19,000 --> 02:59:23,000
I would like you to consider Chris Bell and Wayne Woodward.

2569
02:59:23,000 --> 02:59:28,000
Well, can I I would like to nominate Wayne Woodward Chris Bell and Bob Goodrich.

2570
02:59:28,000 --> 02:59:31,000
Well, I think we'd like to take these individually.

2571
02:59:31,000 --> 02:59:32,000
Okay.

2572
02:59:32,000 --> 02:59:34,000
Well, I'll start with Bob Goodrich.

2573
02:59:34,000 --> 02:59:36,000
Is there a second for Bob Goodrich?

2574
02:59:36,000 --> 02:59:38,000
Second.

2575
02:59:38,000 --> 02:59:41,000
Any discussion about Bob Goodrich?

2576
02:59:41,000 --> 02:59:43,000
I think he has a third.

2577
02:59:43,000 --> 02:59:45,000
Great education.

2578
02:59:45,000 --> 02:59:46,000
Third.

2579
02:59:46,000 --> 02:59:48,000
That's what he tries to convince us.

2580
02:59:48,000 --> 02:59:49,000
He tries to push off on.

2581
02:59:49,000 --> 02:59:50,000
That's what he's worth.

2582
02:59:50,000 --> 02:59:52,000
Mr. Goodrich is worth.

2583
02:59:52,000 --> 02:59:54,000
They're underrepresented in.

2584
02:59:54,000 --> 02:59:55,000
As a statement,

2585
02:59:55,000 --> 02:59:56,000
In fact, that's his own joke.

2586
02:59:56,000 --> 02:59:59,000
We're making sausage without you.

2587
02:59:59,000 --> 03:00:00,000
Would you respond?

2588
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:24,000
We have a motion, now are we taking that individual first? Okay, we have a motion, a second, a discussion. I just simply would say that while Bob comes here often, I want these committee meetings to move along, and I would challenge if we approve that to make sure these don't get bogged down.

2589
03:00:24,000 --> 03:00:34,000
I'm not going to make any more comment than that other than we have a lot of people that want to serve on this board. We have a lot of people that would definitely move that board forward.

2590
03:00:34,000 --> 03:00:39,000
I might be one of those two. Any other comments? No.

2591
03:00:39,000 --> 03:00:46,000
With that, I'll just need any discussion further by the council or by the audience.

2592
03:00:46,000 --> 03:01:01,000
All those in favor please signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed aye. abstentions. That passes with a four one vote. The next person.

2593
03:01:01,000 --> 03:01:04,000
We could possibly appoint. We have.

2594
03:01:04,000 --> 03:01:08,000
I think I'm right. We got three other positions to deal with there.

2595
03:01:09,000 --> 03:01:16,000
I'd nominate Chris Bale. She's worked Texas Department of Aging and Disabilities, knowledge of senior programs.

2596
03:01:16,000 --> 03:01:21,000
Second, we have a motion and a separate Chris Bell. Any other discussion about Chris Bell?

2597
03:01:21,000 --> 03:01:27,000
Christine Chris Bell any discussion from the audience. All those in favor please signify by saying aye.

2598
03:01:27,000 --> 03:01:37,000
Opposed. abstentions. That passes with a five-o vote. We have one more position and the names that still were served on the table.

2599
03:01:37,000 --> 03:01:42,000
We have two more. I believe you're right. We've taken action. I think we're right. You're wrong this time.

2600
03:01:42,000 --> 03:01:49,000
You get one mistake a year. That's it. Okay. So Wayne Woodward, Janet Buyers, Deborah Cummings,

2601
03:01:49,000 --> 03:01:55,000
Reddings, and Steve Hoyle. And we have two positions to fill. Did you see another one that I missed?

2602
03:01:55,000 --> 03:02:00,000
Mr. Deemers. Oh, she really heard. You know, she was willing to serve.

2603
03:02:01,000 --> 03:02:13,000
Let's just take her. You know, I met met her. She has a passion for, you know, the downtown senior citizen.

2604
03:02:13,000 --> 03:02:21,000
But you know, if we have several great people. I'd like to know more about Steve Hoyle.

2605
03:02:21,000 --> 03:02:28,000
If that's Mark, would you fill him in on Steve Hoyle? Would you have an application for me?

2606
03:02:28,000 --> 03:02:39,000
Yeah. I'll just be in your packet. Instead of what I know, I mean, you know, like I said, the conversation I have today was very positive and very passionate guy.

2607
03:02:39,000 --> 03:02:44,000
And I'll just read here from his application. He's been a financial planner for 28 years.

2608
03:02:44,000 --> 03:02:51,000
It's passionate about seniors and feel we have to have a paradigm shift to strengthen programming to make seniors an integral part of our society.

2609
03:02:51,000 --> 03:02:59,000
So he really wants to be involved in the whole community development with the senior population.

2610
03:02:59,000 --> 03:03:03,000
I'm going to Steve for years. And I would second that recommendation.

2611
03:03:03,000 --> 03:03:09,000
Did we have a motion on this? Well, I'll make the motion. I have a motion. We have a second discussion from the council.

2612
03:03:10,000 --> 03:03:13,000
discussion from the audience.

2613
03:03:13,000 --> 03:03:19,000
All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed. Aye.

2614
03:03:19,000 --> 03:03:26,000
Abstentions. That passes with a four one vote. So I believe we have one left.

2615
03:03:26,000 --> 03:03:31,000
I would like to nominate Wayne Woodward. He's a retired nurse practitioner.

2616
03:03:31,000 --> 03:03:38,000
Todd, she instructor, dammer. We'll see in your citizen center. So he can keep order.

2617
03:03:38,000 --> 03:03:41,000
Okay. You have a second. You know, a title is like a gavel.

2618
03:03:41,000 --> 03:03:46,000
We have a motion in a second. Any of these guys from the council? Yes, sir. Please.

2619
03:03:46,000 --> 03:03:51,000
You know, my concern is.

2620
03:03:51,000 --> 03:03:56,000
And perhaps I need to maybe I'll abstain on this because I'm a I'm a senior.

2621
03:03:56,000 --> 03:04:05,000
I mean, I know I don't look at, but I'm a bona fide senior citizen.

2622
03:04:05,000 --> 03:04:12,000
I understand when we have professionals being a part of planning.

2623
03:04:12,000 --> 03:04:17,000
But there's also a need for regular seniors.

2624
03:04:17,000 --> 03:04:26,000
They get there. They get their social security. They get there.

2625
03:04:26,000 --> 03:04:32,000
And they get their Medicare and they get they pay their 140 dollars a month.

2626
03:04:32,000 --> 03:04:45,000
I don't know how I know that for you know, for Medicare B. Who do we have here that represents that person?

2627
03:04:45,000 --> 03:04:54,000
Let me let me tell you something that I've learned about. Charlene Cole absolutely represents that. She was the head of the Senior Center for a few years.

2628
03:04:54,000 --> 03:04:59,000
She's the one that really presented the idea that they were not going to survive as they were.

2629
03:04:59,000 --> 03:05:02,000
And she worked with this group quietly for a couple years.

2630
03:05:02,000 --> 03:05:08,000
Helped in list to help of every one of those agencies that are now giving hundreds of thousands of dollars to support this ever.

2631
03:05:08,000 --> 03:05:13,000
City obviously is in this too with her employee and with managing this.

2632
03:05:13,000 --> 03:05:17,000
But Charlene Cole certainly fits those qualifications you had.

2633
03:05:17,000 --> 03:05:23,000
Liz Raskon runs the Wesley deal and she is a hidden talent in my view.

2634
03:05:23,000 --> 03:05:27,000
And I think she absolutely represents the entire community.

2635
03:05:27,000 --> 03:05:34,000
I would like to say if the larger Mr. Demerson wants to nominate surely heard I will second it.

2636
03:05:34,000 --> 03:05:38,000
Well we have a motion on the floor so we need to take care of that motion.

2637
03:05:38,000 --> 03:05:41,000
We have a motion we have a second.

2638
03:05:41,000 --> 03:05:44,000
Do we do we not have we get a second.

2639
03:05:44,000 --> 03:05:45,000
I don't think we have a second.

2640
03:05:45,000 --> 03:05:50,000
It's loses for lack of a second and you'd like to make an additional.

2641
03:05:50,000 --> 03:05:53,000
You've made an motion now the floor is open.

2642
03:05:53,000 --> 03:06:00,000
Yes thank you council member. I would I would make a motion for Mr. Shirley heard second.

2643
03:06:00,000 --> 03:06:02,000
We have a motion for Shirley heard.

2644
03:06:02,000 --> 03:06:04,000
Any discussion from the council.

2645
03:06:04,000 --> 03:06:06,000
Any discussion from the audience.

2646
03:06:06,000 --> 03:06:09,000
All those in favor of signify by saying aye aye aye aye.

2647
03:06:09,000 --> 03:06:13,000
Opposed abstentions that passes with a five o vote.

2648
03:06:13,000 --> 03:06:15,000
I think we filled your board.

2649
03:06:15,000 --> 03:06:16,000
You better get to work now.

2650
03:06:16,000 --> 03:06:18,000
We keep saying that tonight.

2651
03:06:18,000 --> 03:06:22,000
We've got this community development advisory committee is the only one left that.

2652
03:06:22,000 --> 03:06:27,000
Yes and we have I would like staff to give us an update Mr.

2653
03:06:27,000 --> 03:06:29,000
James Allen.

2654
03:06:29,000 --> 03:06:33,000
We do have requirements and from the list you guys gave us.

2655
03:06:33,000 --> 03:06:35,000
There's a couple.

2656
03:06:35,000 --> 03:06:37,000
Miss steps maybe there because one of those.

2657
03:06:37,000 --> 03:06:40,000
There's people that are required to serve from different quadrants.

2658
03:06:40,000 --> 03:06:48,000
I might just start the discussion by saying that.

2659
03:06:48,000 --> 03:06:49,000
Wait a second.

2660
03:06:49,000 --> 03:06:51,000
Everybody get out your list for this.

2661
03:06:51,000 --> 03:06:52,000
Yes.

2662
03:06:52,000 --> 03:06:57,000
Mayor that that's exactly right and what we tried to do is look at zip code and see who is in what area.

2663
03:06:57,000 --> 03:07:00,000
And I think that we attributed a person to the wrong area.

2664
03:07:00,000 --> 03:07:01,000
I think so.

2665
03:07:01,000 --> 03:07:02,000
But we're not sure that.

2666
03:07:02,000 --> 03:07:05,000
Let's double check it because there was I think council member.

2667
03:07:05,000 --> 03:07:07,000
We can't have a big question about that.

2668
03:07:07,000 --> 03:07:09,000
Well I had a line.

2669
03:07:09,000 --> 03:07:13,000
I had nominated Mariah strong woods but tonight support that.

2670
03:07:13,000 --> 03:07:17,000
But we're told that she could still fit because she's either in.

2671
03:07:17,000 --> 03:07:19,000
She is in southwest.

2672
03:07:19,000 --> 03:07:21,000
Are you in southwest?

2673
03:07:21,000 --> 03:07:22,000
Okay.

2674
03:07:22,000 --> 03:07:23,000
Good.

2675
03:07:23,000 --> 03:07:24,000
So was Jerry Glover.

2676
03:07:24,000 --> 03:07:26,000
I thought one of them was in southeast.

2677
03:07:26,000 --> 03:07:27,000
Well I.

2678
03:07:27,000 --> 03:07:29,000
I let's take action on that.

2679
03:07:29,000 --> 03:07:30,000
She was kind of applying for board.

2680
03:07:30,000 --> 03:07:31,000
She's worked hard.

2681
03:07:31,000 --> 03:07:32,000
Yes.

2682
03:07:32,000 --> 03:07:34,000
Can we get a.

2683
03:07:34,000 --> 03:07:36,000
I would make a motion if that's.

2684
03:07:36,000 --> 03:07:37,000
If that's.

2685
03:07:37,000 --> 03:07:38,000
It is a trouble.

2686
03:07:38,000 --> 03:07:39,000
Second steps.

2687
03:07:39,000 --> 03:07:40,000
We got a motion in a second.

2688
03:07:40,000 --> 03:07:41,000
The discussion from the council.

2689
03:07:41,000 --> 03:07:43,000
In the discussion from the audience.

2690
03:07:43,000 --> 03:07:44,000
All of them favor.

2691
03:07:44,000 --> 03:07:46,000
Please signify by saying aye.

2692
03:07:46,000 --> 03:07:47,000
Opposed.

2693
03:07:47,000 --> 03:07:48,000
Extensions.

2694
03:07:48,000 --> 03:07:50,000
That passes with the five of.

2695
03:07:50,000 --> 03:07:52,000
Thank you for your work.

2696
03:07:52,000 --> 03:07:53,000
Okay.

2697
03:07:53,000 --> 03:07:55,000
Now we have other areas that we got to cover.

2698
03:07:55,000 --> 03:07:57,000
You just still have northeast of southeast.

2699
03:07:57,000 --> 03:07:58,000
I'm going to suggest.

2700
03:07:58,000 --> 03:07:59,000
I think you guys may miss this.

2701
03:07:59,000 --> 03:08:00,000
I'm not sure.

2702
03:08:00,000 --> 03:08:02,000
I'm not going to get any accusations.

2703
03:08:02,000 --> 03:08:05,000
But Gilbert Gusman was just appointed to tell the term.

2704
03:08:05,000 --> 03:08:06,000
He was appointed to five.

2705
03:08:06,000 --> 03:08:07,000
Fifteen.

2706
03:08:07,000 --> 03:08:08,000
He's had.

2707
03:08:08,000 --> 03:08:09,000
He's had.

2708
03:08:09,000 --> 03:08:10,000
Poked.

2709
03:08:10,000 --> 03:08:11,000
Printing forever.

2710
03:08:11,000 --> 03:08:12,000
He lives in northwest.

2711
03:08:12,000 --> 03:08:14,000
He is a solid citizen involved in.

2712
03:08:14,000 --> 03:08:15,000
Quinas and other things.

2713
03:08:15,000 --> 03:08:16,000
He is.

2714
03:08:16,000 --> 03:08:17,000
I'm not.

2715
03:08:17,000 --> 03:08:18,000
Okay.

2716
03:08:18,000 --> 03:08:19,000
I don't want to make the nomination.

2717
03:08:19,000 --> 03:08:20,000
But it's a reappointment.

2718
03:08:20,000 --> 03:08:21,000
All.

2719
03:08:21,000 --> 03:08:22,000
Do you want to make the nomination?

2720
03:08:22,000 --> 03:08:23,000
That's a lot.

2721
03:08:23,000 --> 03:08:24,000
Thank you.

2722
03:08:24,000 --> 03:08:25,000
Excuse me.

2723
03:08:25,000 --> 03:08:26,000
I'm moving.

2724
03:08:26,000 --> 03:08:28,000
We reappoint Gilbert Gusman.

2725
03:08:28,000 --> 03:08:29,000
Second.

2726
03:08:29,000 --> 03:08:30,000
We have a motion in a second.

2727
03:08:30,000 --> 03:08:31,000
Gilbert Gusman.

2728
03:08:31,000 --> 03:08:32,000
Can you discuss from the council?

2729
03:08:32,000 --> 03:08:34,000
Can you discuss from the audience?

2730
03:08:34,000 --> 03:08:35,000
All those in favor.

2731
03:08:35,000 --> 03:08:36,000
Please signify by saying aye.

2732
03:08:36,000 --> 03:08:37,000
Aye.

2733
03:08:37,000 --> 03:08:38,000
Opposed.

2734
03:08:38,000 --> 03:08:39,000
Abstensions.

2735
03:08:39,000 --> 03:08:40,000
That passes with the five of.

2736
03:08:40,000 --> 03:08:42,000
I do believe he was on our initial list.

2737
03:08:42,000 --> 03:08:43,000
I don't know.

2738
03:08:43,000 --> 03:08:44,000
I don't know where to drop.

2739
03:08:44,000 --> 03:08:45,000
Yes.

2740
03:08:45,000 --> 03:08:46,000
Something happened.

2741
03:08:46,000 --> 03:08:47,000
You guys didn't dig a secretary with you.

2742
03:08:47,000 --> 03:08:48,000
Next time.

2743
03:08:48,000 --> 03:08:49,000
Take a dig.

2744
03:08:49,000 --> 03:08:50,000
I know.

2745
03:08:50,000 --> 03:08:51,000
All we had is a burger.

2746
03:08:51,000 --> 03:08:52,000
Would you tell us what else we have?

2747
03:08:52,000 --> 03:08:55,000
Example.

2748
03:08:55,000 --> 03:08:56,000
Great.

2749
03:08:56,000 --> 03:08:57,000
So you got this too.

2750
03:08:57,000 --> 03:08:58,000
Thank you.

2751
03:08:58,000 --> 03:09:00,000
All right.

2752
03:09:00,000 --> 03:09:01,000
Thanks.

2753
03:09:01,000 --> 03:09:02,000
Listen up here.

2754
03:09:02,000 --> 03:09:04,000
We're still with us yesterday.

2755
03:09:04,000 --> 03:09:06,000
We're still reviewing south east.

2756
03:09:06,000 --> 03:09:11,000
We really don't.

2757
03:09:11,000 --> 03:09:12,000
Okay.

2758
03:09:12,000 --> 03:09:13,000
We go to tonight.

2759
03:09:13,000 --> 03:09:14,000
Yeah.

2760
03:09:14,000 --> 03:09:16,000
Forget everybody.

2761
03:09:16,000 --> 03:09:18,000
For everybody out there listening.

2762
03:09:18,000 --> 03:09:20,480
at some of the most difficult decisions,

2763
03:09:20,480 --> 03:09:22,960
never as enough money to do everything they need

2764
03:09:22,960 --> 03:09:24,960
and want and should do,

2765
03:09:24,960 --> 03:09:27,840
they really discern, they go visit, they go look,

2766
03:09:27,840 --> 03:09:30,120
but we need a person from which quadrant?

2767
03:09:30,120 --> 03:09:31,440
North East to southeast.

2768
03:09:31,440 --> 03:09:33,560
And we need a southeast and a northeast,

2769
03:09:33,560 --> 03:09:36,800
and you can go online, press boards and commissions,

2770
03:09:36,800 --> 03:09:39,040
see that application fill it out,

2771
03:09:39,040 --> 03:09:40,320
or you certainly can come in,

2772
03:09:40,320 --> 03:09:41,880
we'll give you a handwritten one,

2773
03:09:41,880 --> 03:09:44,120
you can handwrite and give to us, okay?

2774
03:09:44,120 --> 03:09:46,800
Any one of the council members or the city secretary.

2775
03:09:46,800 --> 03:09:49,920
So we need people to sign up for that one.

2776
03:09:49,920 --> 03:09:51,360
I guarantee you're going to work,

2777
03:09:51,360 --> 03:09:53,040
and you're going to learn stuff about cities,

2778
03:09:53,040 --> 03:09:56,000
extraordinary, and not simple, tough stuff.

2779
03:09:56,000 --> 03:09:57,800
So it's a good board.

2780
03:09:57,800 --> 03:09:58,640
What else?

2781
03:09:58,640 --> 03:10:00,760
I think we got most of them.

2782
03:10:00,760 --> 03:10:02,680
I would like to just suggest that we start

2783
03:10:02,680 --> 03:10:05,640
the interview process on economic development,

2784
03:10:05,640 --> 03:10:08,120
or set a date to where everybody can be there.

2785
03:10:08,120 --> 03:10:12,920
I think that's great, so let's review,

2786
03:10:12,920 --> 03:10:17,680
we have actually 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 people

2787
03:10:17,680 --> 03:10:19,160
who have expressed interest.

2788
03:10:19,160 --> 03:10:23,520
We have applications on all 10 of them from what I can tell,

2789
03:10:23,520 --> 03:10:29,320
and you were able to pick four, and we have a great group,

2790
03:10:29,320 --> 03:10:31,120
and I certainly think we want to narrow down

2791
03:10:31,120 --> 03:10:32,760
and interview four.

2792
03:10:32,760 --> 03:10:36,520
Could you all tell us how you picked those four out of these?

2793
03:10:36,520 --> 03:10:38,680
It's a great number of people.

2794
03:10:39,680 --> 03:10:42,840
I picked Paul Christie, I was one of them.

2795
03:10:42,840 --> 03:10:45,320
Paul's just kind of a real success story,

2796
03:10:45,320 --> 03:10:48,120
and kind of started on his own, and he's built

2797
03:10:48,120 --> 03:10:51,840
a nice, real estate empire for lack of a better word,

2798
03:10:51,840 --> 03:10:55,640
apartment, and a complex, he's a real savvy businessman,

2799
03:10:55,640 --> 03:10:57,760
okay, highly respecting.

2800
03:10:57,760 --> 03:11:00,280
And then the other ones, I think we're suggest

2801
03:11:00,280 --> 03:11:03,080
that it was Joshua Rave, who has the franchise

2802
03:11:03,080 --> 03:11:05,480
for Chick-fil-A on Georgia, that's great.

2803
03:11:05,480 --> 03:11:08,200
And he has been, I think it took him two times

2804
03:11:08,200 --> 03:11:09,560
to get through Emerald at 101,

2805
03:11:09,560 --> 03:11:12,000
because he's busy devil with kids,

2806
03:11:12,000 --> 03:11:14,800
and he is expressed interest in it.

2807
03:11:14,800 --> 03:11:17,080
He's turned in an application.

2808
03:11:17,080 --> 03:11:19,440
One of the other ones, you suggested, was Laura Strutho.

2809
03:11:19,440 --> 03:11:21,560
I really think we should interview,

2810
03:11:21,560 --> 03:11:24,720
and the last one, you suggested was Bill Summaford,

2811
03:11:24,720 --> 03:11:28,200
who you're suggesting interviewing.

2812
03:11:28,200 --> 03:11:33,800
The only other ones I saw, and if I'm just going through this,

2813
03:11:33,800 --> 03:11:36,800
Rob Parker has a significant job,

2814
03:11:36,800 --> 03:11:40,320
development type things, and the only other person I saw

2815
03:11:40,320 --> 03:11:43,200
was David, her was Brian Hudson,

2816
03:11:43,200 --> 03:11:45,840
who's grew up here, went to school,

2817
03:11:45,840 --> 03:11:47,440
left, went to Denver, came back,

2818
03:11:47,440 --> 03:11:49,360
and worked for Excel, and is interested.

2819
03:11:49,360 --> 03:11:53,040
So, my only concern with Brian, he's a fine young man,

2820
03:11:53,040 --> 03:11:56,160
I just think this particular board is,

2821
03:11:56,160 --> 03:11:58,880
it's really, you know, I think when he's some season veterans

2822
03:11:58,880 --> 03:12:01,440
on it personally, I would argue that,

2823
03:12:01,440 --> 03:12:04,200
I just also want to give a chance to find young people.

2824
03:12:04,200 --> 03:12:05,040
He's a great guy.

2825
03:12:05,040 --> 03:12:06,240
And I know you do too, so.

2826
03:12:06,240 --> 03:12:07,640
I think a lot of him and his father.

2827
03:12:07,640 --> 03:12:09,760
All right, so let's set it, if you don't mind,

2828
03:12:09,760 --> 03:12:15,480
let's pull up our calendars, and I know one of these candidates

2829
03:12:15,480 --> 03:12:17,640
will be back in town on the eighth,

2830
03:12:17,640 --> 03:12:19,840
and I think that leaves us where we interview

2831
03:12:19,840 --> 03:12:21,080
sometime next week.

2832
03:12:21,080 --> 03:12:24,280
Council is that okay, if we try and set interviews on the eighth,

2833
03:12:24,280 --> 03:12:25,120
what is?

2834
03:12:25,120 --> 03:12:28,040
Well, the eighth or after, we're gonna have to get them and make sure.

2835
03:12:28,040 --> 03:12:30,720
How do you all, and then we take action,

2836
03:12:30,720 --> 03:12:32,120
hopefully the next week.

2837
03:12:33,080 --> 03:12:36,680
So we've got, we can do it from the eighth on,

2838
03:12:36,680 --> 03:12:39,160
and I think get a hold of every one of these from what I'm hearing,

2839
03:12:39,160 --> 03:12:40,800
just doing a little scouting.

2840
03:12:40,800 --> 03:12:42,360
Is that okay with you all?

2841
03:12:42,360 --> 03:12:44,640
Eight to nine through ten, we set up interviews.

2842
03:12:44,640 --> 03:12:48,200
And may I, I will be in my team leadership class.

2843
03:12:48,200 --> 03:12:51,360
So let's do at the ninth or tenth or the 13th or 14th.

2844
03:12:51,360 --> 03:12:53,760
But now, let's say the ninth to the 10th, I agree.

2845
03:12:53,760 --> 03:12:55,160
I don't want, I absolutely agree.

2846
03:12:55,160 --> 03:12:58,400
So ninth or 10th, everybody can, what's the day of the week of the ninth?

2847
03:12:58,400 --> 03:13:00,600
That's the Thursday and then Friday.

2848
03:13:00,600 --> 03:13:01,840
So let's try Thursday.

2849
03:13:01,840 --> 03:13:03,120
Let's do the ninth.

2850
03:13:03,120 --> 03:13:03,640
Okay.

2851
03:13:03,640 --> 03:13:08,000
The days away from the weekend, let's staff, would you get a hold of,

2852
03:13:08,000 --> 03:13:10,920
and I think we're, let's be sure we agree on this.

2853
03:13:10,920 --> 03:13:14,000
We're gonna ask Bill, some of her, Paul Christie, Laura Street,

2854
03:13:14,000 --> 03:13:15,880
and Joshua Rift, to come in and interview.

2855
03:13:15,880 --> 03:13:17,640
Is that the consensus of the council?

2856
03:13:17,640 --> 03:13:18,800
Yes.

2857
03:13:18,800 --> 03:13:23,080
Any, any, what do you want to challenge that consensus?

2858
03:13:23,080 --> 03:13:26,280
Council member Demerson, you look like you got a question.

2859
03:13:26,280 --> 03:13:30,560
You know, hour, when is our new city manager?

2860
03:13:30,560 --> 03:13:41,160
We think Monday is Monday the 13th or the 13th, but he'll be here by the year, by the next one of you.

2861
03:13:41,160 --> 03:13:43,320
Right now, he's enjoying moving.

2862
03:13:43,320 --> 03:13:48,480
The reason I ask is because I know that we have, you know, with all of the economic development

2863
03:13:48,480 --> 03:13:55,920
that we're talking about now and the partnership with AEDC and other entities,

2864
03:13:55,920 --> 03:13:57,920
do we want him on board?

2865
03:13:57,920 --> 03:13:58,920
May not hurt.

2866
03:13:58,920 --> 03:14:02,440
I don't want to delay this long, but here's the other thing to consider that you're wise

2867
03:14:02,440 --> 03:14:03,440
to bring up.

2868
03:14:03,440 --> 03:14:10,600
We're in the middle of a approximately $175,000 study, broadly encompassing all types of economic

2869
03:14:10,600 --> 03:14:16,920
development in our city, whether it be the job type or expansion of sales tax effort or

2870
03:14:16,920 --> 03:14:21,880
reviving older areas of town, which I know is an important thing to everybody on this council.

2871
03:14:21,880 --> 03:14:28,880
I do not want to delay this very long, but I'd say, well, no, the new city managers, he wants

2872
03:14:28,880 --> 03:14:34,160
to be involved over the AEDC and I think Barry and him are kind of on the same page, so I certainly

2873
03:14:34,160 --> 03:14:37,720
don't have a problem if we want to postpone it until he gets here.

2874
03:14:37,720 --> 03:14:41,000
If we are not far as that council is consensus, I think that's a good idea.

2875
03:14:41,000 --> 03:14:42,000
It's a consensus.

2876
03:14:42,000 --> 03:14:46,800
We'll move that to, well, we're going to move it to, if he gets here to the 13th, we'll try and

2877
03:14:46,800 --> 03:14:47,800
set it up.

2878
03:14:47,800 --> 03:14:52,560
So let's preliminarily talk to those people, see if they can do it late in the week of the 13th,

2879
03:14:52,560 --> 03:14:59,040
which would be the 16th, or if we want to go, or if we want to go to...

2880
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:07,000
That's Thursday, so I'm emimicking that date. Or if we want to go to the following week, would you be the 23rd?

2881
03:15:07,000 --> 03:15:13,000
I think on the 5th week, may have LGC, I think you're trying to schedule it.

2882
03:15:13,000 --> 03:15:16,000
Yeah, the 6th, that's what I was going to say. You said 5th, does do 16th.

2883
03:15:16,000 --> 03:15:22,000
Well, let's try 16th or 23rd, let's work it out. Certainly don't want to go to the 23rd.

2884
03:15:22,000 --> 03:15:32,000
Okay, so we're going to do those then. All right, was there any others of these appointments that we missed the boat on?

2885
03:15:32,000 --> 03:15:33,000
We covered it.

2886
03:15:33,000 --> 03:15:34,000
Yeah.

2887
03:15:34,000 --> 03:15:40,000
Just for clarification, the ones that you're still looking to act on, do you want those posted at your next meeting for action?

2888
03:15:40,000 --> 03:15:44,000
Let's go back and see, we are, which ones are we still working on.

2889
03:15:44,000 --> 03:15:46,000
The venue district?

2890
03:15:46,000 --> 03:15:48,000
And the, you've got the instruction.

2891
03:15:49,000 --> 03:15:53,000
How quick are your 7th committee get that work done?

2892
03:15:53,000 --> 03:15:59,000
Well, we've got animal welfare, we need the point, and we need the venue construction of those.

2893
03:15:59,000 --> 03:16:01,000
And a construction advisory.

2894
03:16:01,000 --> 03:16:08,000
You know, I don't think the 7th committee on that animal welfare, could we each try and call those people and see what we think?

2895
03:16:08,000 --> 03:16:09,000
Yeah, that's fine.

2896
03:16:09,000 --> 03:16:14,000
Can we do that? We've only got two people really talking about, let's see what we think, and then we'll come back and deal with that one.

2897
03:16:14,000 --> 03:16:19,000
So let's post the animal control for next week. We're, it's our job to get those done before then.

2898
03:16:19,000 --> 03:16:21,000
What are the other ones?

2899
03:16:21,000 --> 03:16:24,000
Well, we could post the venue too, and just if we don't move on it, we don't move on it.

2900
03:16:24,000 --> 03:16:25,000
It's on there.

2901
03:16:25,000 --> 03:16:26,000
Let's.

2902
03:16:26,000 --> 03:16:27,000
Let's.

2903
03:16:27,000 --> 03:16:28,000
We don't.

2904
03:16:28,000 --> 03:16:29,000
Quill Creek as well.

2905
03:16:29,000 --> 03:16:30,000
Let's put it up in Quill Creek as well.

2906
03:16:30,000 --> 03:16:31,000
Let's put those up.

2907
03:16:31,000 --> 03:16:32,000
And we're then.

2908
03:16:32,000 --> 03:16:34,000
You get the community development committee.

2909
03:16:34,000 --> 03:16:36,000
Construction advisory.

2910
03:16:36,000 --> 03:16:37,000
The community development.

2911
03:16:37,000 --> 03:16:41,000
James, if you can find anybody quickly and get them to us, we'll, this guy.

2912
03:16:41,000 --> 03:16:42,000
Okay.

2913
03:16:43,000 --> 03:16:47,000
At some point, I'd like to have another just quick conversation.

2914
03:16:47,000 --> 03:16:50,000
If this process is still working for us, if it's broken.

2915
03:16:50,000 --> 03:16:52,000
We do a lot of horses tonight.

2916
03:16:52,000 --> 03:16:55,000
We can't have a better description of pointing these boards on.

2917
03:16:55,000 --> 03:16:58,000
I think Councilmember Demosil would agree, then it's like making sausage.

2918
03:16:58,000 --> 03:17:00,000
So we get now that we've got these great applications.

2919
03:17:00,000 --> 03:17:01,000
It's not simple.

2920
03:17:01,000 --> 03:17:02,000
Right.

2921
03:17:02,000 --> 03:17:03,000
Well, I don't think we're going to say that.

2922
03:17:03,000 --> 03:17:04,000
Thank you.

2923
03:17:04,000 --> 03:17:05,000
For your work.

2924
03:17:05,000 --> 03:17:06,000
Yeah.

2925
03:17:06,000 --> 03:17:07,000
Absolutely.

2926
03:17:07,000 --> 03:17:08,000
Yeah.

2927
03:17:08,000 --> 03:17:09,000
We're glad you took it.

2928
03:17:09,000 --> 03:17:10,000
Thank you.

2929
03:17:11,000 --> 03:17:12,000
I appreciate it.

2930
03:17:12,000 --> 03:17:13,000
Okay.

2931
03:17:13,000 --> 03:17:14,000
We're getting done patting ourselves on the back.

2932
03:17:14,000 --> 03:17:15,000
Yeah.

2933
03:17:15,000 --> 03:17:17,000
I think we're to the consent agenda.

2934
03:17:17,000 --> 03:17:18,000
I think we're close.

2935
03:17:18,000 --> 03:17:21,000
Let me get back to my gang to agenda here.

2936
03:17:21,000 --> 03:17:23,000
Mayor, just to recall.

2937
03:17:23,000 --> 03:17:26,000
Councilmember Nair asked when you go through the consent agenda.

2938
03:17:26,000 --> 03:17:27,000
If you.

2939
03:17:27,000 --> 03:17:29,000
We'll pull the sign of a brief.

2940
03:17:29,000 --> 03:17:32,000
A brief report on the purchase for heavy trucks.

2941
03:17:32,000 --> 03:17:33,000
Yeah.

2942
03:17:33,000 --> 03:17:34,000
Kind of regretting that one.

2943
03:17:34,000 --> 03:17:35,000
Yeah.

2944
03:17:35,000 --> 03:17:37,000
Trent and Glen have been waiting here.

2945
03:17:37,000 --> 03:17:39,000
I'm going to hit the gavel if you guys don't settle down.

2946
03:17:39,000 --> 03:17:40,000
The consent agenda.

2947
03:17:40,000 --> 03:17:43,000
It's recommended that following on is be approved that the city manager be authorized.

2948
03:17:43,000 --> 03:17:46,000
Execute all documents necessary for each transaction.

2949
03:17:46,000 --> 03:17:47,000
I'll read them.

2950
03:17:47,000 --> 03:17:50,000
Then I'll ask if anybody wants to remove one for separate consideration.

2951
03:17:50,000 --> 03:17:52,000
A is the purchase of heavy truck.

2952
03:17:52,000 --> 03:17:55,000
B is the approval of water tower lease agreement.

2953
03:17:55,000 --> 03:18:00,000
C is the approval of authorized two year extension of ambulance service permit grant.

2954
03:18:00,000 --> 03:18:03,000
To emerala medical response.

2955
03:18:03,000 --> 03:18:04,000
Incorporated.

2956
03:18:04,000 --> 03:18:06,000
A M R.

2957
03:18:06,000 --> 03:18:10,000
And the number B is the approval of emerala medical response.

2958
03:18:10,000 --> 03:18:14,000
Extraordinary rate increase of 2.935 percent.

2959
03:18:14,000 --> 03:18:17,000
The any items that need to be removed for separate consideration.

2960
03:18:17,000 --> 03:18:18,000
Councilmember Nair.

2961
03:18:18,000 --> 03:18:22,000
Mr. Mayor, I appreciate if we can remove A just to have a little conversation.

2962
03:18:22,000 --> 03:18:23,000
A quick one.

2963
03:18:23,000 --> 03:18:24,000
Absolutely.

2964
03:18:24,000 --> 03:18:25,000
Any other.

2965
03:18:25,000 --> 03:18:28,000
Any other discussion needed about the other items.

2966
03:18:28,000 --> 03:18:31,000
Mayor, the only point of clarification to make on the AMR.

2967
03:18:31,000 --> 03:18:33,000
You all will recall that you asked for.

2968
03:18:33,000 --> 03:18:36,000
Since it includes the removal of the advisory board.

2969
03:18:36,000 --> 03:18:39,000
We have staff has talked with all the members of the advisory board.

2970
03:18:39,000 --> 03:18:42,000
And there are no objections to that being removed.

2971
03:18:42,000 --> 03:18:45,000
And the medical director of course will still remain a part of that board.

2972
03:18:45,000 --> 03:18:50,000
And there's a copy in your packet of the kind of report that would provide it to you all

2973
03:18:50,000 --> 03:18:52,000
Quarterly because that was one of the things you'd asked about as well.

2974
03:18:52,000 --> 03:18:53,000
Thank you.

2975
03:18:53,000 --> 03:18:54,000
Thank you.

2976
03:18:54,000 --> 03:18:55,000
Okay.

2977
03:18:55,000 --> 03:18:58,000
So let's take those items left.

2978
03:18:58,000 --> 03:19:01,000
We're moving item A for separate discussion.

2979
03:19:01,000 --> 03:19:04,000
We're going to have a motion for item B C and D.

2980
03:19:04,000 --> 03:19:09,000
Mr. Mayor, move that we approve consent agenda items B C and D.

2981
03:19:09,000 --> 03:19:10,000
Second.

2982
03:19:10,000 --> 03:19:13,000
Motion to second for B C and D in the consent agenda.

2983
03:19:13,000 --> 03:19:17,000
I'll any discussion from the council from the audience.

2984
03:19:17,000 --> 03:19:19,000
All those in favor please signify by saying aye.

2985
03:19:19,000 --> 03:19:20,000
Aye.

2986
03:19:20,000 --> 03:19:21,000
Opposed.

2987
03:19:21,000 --> 03:19:22,000
Abstensions.

2988
03:19:22,000 --> 03:19:24,000
That passes with a five vote vote.

2989
03:19:24,000 --> 03:19:26,000
Now let's go back to item A.

2990
03:19:26,000 --> 03:19:27,000
Mr.

2991
03:19:27,000 --> 03:19:29,000
Interim city manager.

2992
03:19:29,000 --> 03:19:32,000
If Trent and Glen both wouldn't mind coming up, they can kind of give you a.

2993
03:19:32,000 --> 03:19:34,000
I believe the word was quick.

2994
03:19:34,000 --> 03:19:35,000
Yes.

2995
03:19:35,000 --> 03:19:36,000
Right.

2996
03:19:36,000 --> 03:19:37,000
References to the process.

2997
03:19:37,000 --> 03:19:39,000
It's your through.

2998
03:19:39,000 --> 03:19:41,000
Mayor council.

2999
03:19:41,000 --> 03:19:43,000
If I understand your question.

3000
03:19:43,000 --> 03:19:44,000
Drag me.

3001
03:19:44,000 --> 03:19:50,000
You wanted to know about policies or procedures for purchasing related to why we don't get more vendors.

3002
03:19:50,000 --> 03:19:51,000
Yes.

3003
03:19:51,000 --> 03:19:52,000
On this.

3004
03:19:52,000 --> 03:19:54,000
Sir, do you mind coming up closer to that, Mike?

3005
03:19:54,000 --> 03:19:55,000
That devil is.

3006
03:19:55,000 --> 03:19:56,000
Thank you.

3007
03:19:56,000 --> 03:19:57,000
On this particular truck.

3008
03:19:57,000 --> 03:19:59,000
I'll be purchasing.

3009
03:19:59,000 --> 03:20:03,000
Has 98 registered vendors that have told us.

3010
03:20:03,000 --> 03:20:05,000
They want to sell trucks to us.

3011
03:20:05,000 --> 03:20:08,000
So the buyers will create the list.

3012
03:20:08,000 --> 03:20:11,000
We mail that 98 letters to vendors.

3013
03:20:11,000 --> 03:20:15,000
An interest letter that said go to publicpurchase.com.

3014
03:20:15,000 --> 03:20:17,000
Download the bid.

3015
03:20:17,000 --> 03:20:20,000
Of the 98 letters we sent out.

3016
03:20:20,000 --> 03:20:22,000
34 vendors.

3017
03:20:22,000 --> 03:20:24,000
Downloaded the actual bid.

3018
03:20:24,000 --> 03:20:25,000
Of that.

3019
03:20:25,000 --> 03:20:29,000
We got five bids or 14 bids to five vendors.

3020
03:20:29,000 --> 03:20:34,000
A lot of our truck manufacturers will sell more than one product line.

3021
03:20:34,000 --> 03:20:40,000
So we request that each individual bid being its own envelope.

3022
03:20:40,000 --> 03:20:43,000
So we sent out 98.

3023
03:20:43,000 --> 03:20:46,000
34 downloaded it and we got five.

3024
03:20:46,000 --> 03:20:54,000
I think most of our truck dealers and Glenn and I know that weight black from premier truck is in the audience.

3025
03:20:54,000 --> 03:21:02,000
But you would have to go a considerable distance to not get premier or summit or rush or

3026
03:21:02,000 --> 03:21:05,000
Brutner's because they're surrounded the area.

3027
03:21:05,000 --> 03:21:10,000
I know like for summit I was working with transit earlier in the year on a bid.

3028
03:21:10,000 --> 03:21:16,000
And they would have had to gone to Denver to find the nearest truck beer that wasn't a summit truck.

3029
03:21:16,000 --> 03:21:17,000
Okay.

3030
03:21:17,000 --> 03:21:20,000
So we're consolidated within this area with these guys.

3031
03:21:20,000 --> 03:21:22,000
That's true.

3032
03:21:22,000 --> 03:21:23,000
Okay.

3033
03:21:23,000 --> 03:21:27,000
It's just that it had been meaning to ask us for a while every time I look at the bid results.

3034
03:21:27,000 --> 03:21:31,000
But then when I see that we have one bid and we have an awful lot.

3035
03:21:31,000 --> 03:21:34,000
You know, so that answers the question about.

3036
03:21:34,000 --> 03:21:39,000
Because I didn't know how the process worked from sending out from the city.

3037
03:21:39,000 --> 03:21:43,000
So it's a letter that goes out and they actively engage to download the bid.

3038
03:21:43,000 --> 03:21:44,000
I got it.

3039
03:21:44,000 --> 03:21:45,000
Okay.

3040
03:21:45,000 --> 03:21:46,000
That's it for me.

3041
03:21:46,000 --> 03:21:47,000
I'm good.

3042
03:21:47,000 --> 03:21:49,000
Any other discussion from the council?

3043
03:21:49,000 --> 03:21:50,000
Thank you very much.

3044
03:21:50,000 --> 03:21:51,000
I'd entertain a motion.

3045
03:21:51,000 --> 03:21:54,000
Mr. Mayor, I move will we approve consent agenda item A.

3046
03:21:54,000 --> 03:21:55,000
Second.

3047
03:21:55,000 --> 03:21:58,000
The motion of the second for consent agenda item A.

3048
03:21:58,000 --> 03:22:00,000
Any discussion from the council?

3049
03:22:00,000 --> 03:22:02,000
From the audience?

3050
03:22:02,000 --> 03:22:05,000
All those favor please signify by saying aye.

3051
03:22:05,000 --> 03:22:06,000
Aye.

3052
03:22:06,000 --> 03:22:07,000
Aye.

3053
03:22:07,000 --> 03:22:08,000
Opposed.

3054
03:22:08,000 --> 03:22:09,000
Abstentions.

3055
03:22:09,000 --> 03:22:11,000
That passes with a 50 go.

3056
03:22:11,000 --> 03:22:14,000
Okay.

3057
03:22:14,000 --> 03:22:18,000
Well, that concludes the regularly scheduled agenda of the number of city council.

3058
03:22:18,000 --> 03:22:20,000
And I want to be sure that everybody.

3059
03:22:20,000 --> 03:22:32,000
I'm going to ask everybody please take their seat.

3060
03:22:32,000 --> 03:22:33,000
Sir, you in the back.

3061
03:22:33,000 --> 03:22:35,000
Would you please take a seat?

3062
03:22:35,000 --> 03:22:36,000
Thank you.

3063
03:22:36,000 --> 03:22:39,000
I'm going to ask that everybody.

3064
03:22:39,000 --> 03:22:45,000
Listen to this statement very clearly.

3065
03:22:45,000 --> 03:22:49,000
It's customary at this time to allow citizens of this community.

3066
03:22:49,000 --> 03:22:56,000
With matters not on the agenda pertaining to cities, policies, programs, and services, speak to the council.

3067
03:22:56,000 --> 03:22:58,000
The floor is not open for any other comment.

3068
03:22:58,000 --> 03:23:02,000
I don't like using this so gavel, but if I need to, I need to.

3069
03:23:02,000 --> 03:23:05,000
And our council, our council cannot respond to these.

3070
03:23:05,000 --> 03:23:10,000
I know many of you that I see faces out here today have never been here before.

3071
03:23:10,000 --> 03:23:12,000
Understand the rules.

3072
03:23:12,000 --> 03:23:14,000
We cannot respond to this.

3073
03:23:14,000 --> 03:23:18,000
We can't let you discuss an item that was on the agenda.

3074
03:23:18,000 --> 03:23:22,000
And we will accept no personal attacks at all.

3075
03:23:22,000 --> 03:23:27,000
And we will ask you to make comments that have to do a city policy program to the services.

3076
03:23:27,000 --> 03:23:32,000
If you are up here to do anything else, I'm going to ask you to explain at the beginning.

3077
03:23:32,000 --> 03:23:35,000
How it has to do with policy program and services.

3078
03:23:35,000 --> 03:23:36,000
It doesn't.

3079
03:23:36,000 --> 03:23:39,000
I'm only going to ask you to not comment in this arena.

3080
03:23:39,000 --> 03:23:41,000
This is not what this is for.

3081
03:23:41,000 --> 03:23:45,000
You had the luxury and pleasure of seeing.

3082
03:23:45,000 --> 03:23:47,000
The council at work.

3083
03:23:47,000 --> 03:23:49,000
I've seen councils at work for 12 years.

3084
03:23:49,000 --> 03:23:51,000
We are here to do the business of the city.

3085
03:23:51,000 --> 03:23:53,000
We're not here for other things.

3086
03:23:53,000 --> 03:23:57,000
Now, I will tell you, some people get up week after week after week.

3087
03:23:57,000 --> 03:24:01,000
And if you'll notice their comments always have to do with policy programs or services.

3088
03:24:01,000 --> 03:24:06,000
And they always have to do with items when they're on the agenda and we speak to agenda items.

3089
03:24:06,000 --> 03:24:09,000
The thing I'll caution you is, if you do come to that podium,

3090
03:24:09,000 --> 03:24:11,000
you're not here to speak to the audience.

3091
03:24:11,000 --> 03:24:13,000
We're here to do our job and learn.

3092
03:24:13,000 --> 03:24:16,000
We have a requirement to do this and we're trying to do it.

3093
03:24:16,000 --> 03:24:19,000
So, I'm going to ask that we maintain order in that way.

3094
03:24:19,000 --> 03:24:21,000
When we see a crowd, we're concerned.

3095
03:24:21,000 --> 03:24:27,000
Mr. City Attorney, I'd like you to add to the reasons that we're so restrictive and why yet we're so generous.

3096
03:24:27,000 --> 03:24:32,000
And in this city, not us, but this city has been generous about these public comments.

3097
03:24:32,000 --> 03:24:34,000
I'd be happy to hear.

3098
03:24:34,000 --> 03:24:38,000
As we've discussed before, and I think you'll see on the screen in a minute.

3099
03:24:38,000 --> 03:24:46,000
The Attorney General of the State of Texas and actually the express language of the Texas Open meetings act provides that

3100
03:24:46,000 --> 03:24:52,000
at a public forum or citizen comment section, such as the one that's provided by the Emerald City Council here,

3101
03:24:52,000 --> 03:25:00,000
is to allow you to speak about items such as related to in the policy the mayor mentioned earlier.

3102
03:25:00,000 --> 03:25:03,000
But the City Council cannot respond.

3103
03:25:03,000 --> 03:25:09,000
The elected officials cannot respond except to ask that an item be placed on the future agenda,

3104
03:25:09,000 --> 03:25:16,000
make a statement of fact, or a declaration of established existing city policy.

3105
03:25:16,000 --> 03:25:24,000
The reason for that is the item that you may raise at this public forum is not posted on the agenda for other citizens to comment about.

3106
03:25:25,000 --> 03:25:27,000
Are to hear.

3107
03:25:27,000 --> 03:25:34,000
So it is a very strict requirement and this council has adhered to that requirement as well.

3108
03:25:34,000 --> 03:25:39,000
I would also like to add mayor something I don't believe I've mentioned in this city council meeting before.

3109
03:25:39,000 --> 03:25:46,000
When you stand at the podium, you do not have the protections against libel and slander that a public official does.

3110
03:25:46,000 --> 03:25:48,000
You're just standing at a podium.

3111
03:25:48,000 --> 03:25:58,000
So keep that in mind that's one reason we do not allow public comment typically on board on particular individuals who are nominated for boards and commissions because.

3112
03:25:58,000 --> 03:26:02,000
Some you may not be aware of what you're saying about them in public.

3113
03:26:02,000 --> 03:26:10,000
But keep in mind that you do have those restrictions that apply and it's a very strict requirement of the Texas Open meetings act.

3114
03:26:10,000 --> 03:26:13,000
May you're about your your response and non response.

3115
03:26:13,000 --> 03:26:17,000
So I would ask anyone that has a public comment to come forward.

3116
03:26:17,000 --> 03:26:24,000
We ask you to begin with your name and your address keeping those in mind and to keep your comments under three minutes.

3117
03:26:24,000 --> 03:26:29,000
Thank you.

3118
03:26:29,000 --> 03:26:30,000
Good evening, Mayor.

3119
03:26:30,000 --> 03:26:34,000
Jim Lauder, 6723, Emerald Court, Emeril.

3120
03:26:34,000 --> 03:26:45,000
42 years ago, I left the Panhandle area where I grew up in the T. Barty Ranch and Beaver County up in Oklahoma to go to college and serve our country.

3121
03:26:45,000 --> 03:26:54,000
And after 38 years of garnering skills, knowledge, abilities.

3122
03:26:54,000 --> 03:26:57,000
Mostly paid for by taxpayers and taxes elsewhere.

3123
03:26:57,000 --> 03:27:08,000
I've come home to Texas six years ago and I'm here tonight to announce that I want to give back some of that knowledge skills and abilities to the citizens of Emeril.

3124
03:27:08,000 --> 03:27:16,000
Because I've filed a candidate treasure report to run for the Office of Mayor.

3125
03:27:16,000 --> 03:27:23,000
This is a copy. I mailed the original, but I brought a copy for the city secretary if she would like it.

3126
03:27:23,000 --> 03:27:30,000
And I'd like to say that if I can measure up to Elijah Demerson's concern for listening to people.

3127
03:27:30,000 --> 03:27:38,000
And Lisa Blake's ability to be civil and Paul Harpole's deep knowledge of the city.

3128
03:27:38,000 --> 03:27:46,000
And Randy, like James Bond, even though he may be a crude instrument, if I can live up to his courage to speak truth to power.

3129
03:27:46,000 --> 03:27:50,000
And Mark Knayer's hard work, intellect, imagination.

3130
03:27:50,000 --> 03:27:59,000
If I can live up to half way, then we, in the next city council, can do a fantastic job.

3131
03:27:59,000 --> 03:28:00,000
Thank you.

3132
03:28:00,000 --> 03:28:01,000
Thank you.

3133
03:28:01,000 --> 03:28:02,000
Good luck.

3134
03:28:02,000 --> 03:28:19,000
My name is Edith Deach Moss of 1613, B. Bowie Street, Emeril.

3135
03:28:19,000 --> 03:28:25,000
Mayor, Mayor, City Council members and guests.

3136
03:28:25,000 --> 03:28:37,000
I'm a woman of very strong, Christian faith. I've come to ask you for protection for our immigrants, specifically our Muslim population population.

3137
03:28:37,000 --> 03:28:48,000
I'm extremely grieved by our current President's executive order that effectively bans all Muslims from the seven Middle Eastern countries.

3138
03:28:48,000 --> 03:28:55,000
Of those seven countries, we have people from Iraq, Somalia, and Sudan in Amarillo.

3139
03:28:55,000 --> 03:29:10,000
I'm reminded of the person that I serve, of a man that I serve very greatly, who was a refugee, and he was a refugee from Herod, because he was trying to kill him.

3140
03:29:10,000 --> 03:29:27,000
I'm also reminded in Leviticus 19 that God commanded the Israelites to be to take care of the residents, aliens in their communities, and to treat them as a citizen and to love them in themselves.

3141
03:29:27,000 --> 03:29:39,000
I'm also reminded in Micah that says, Oh, mortal, what is it that God requires of you, but to do justice to love kindness and to walk humbly before your God?

3142
03:29:39,000 --> 03:29:49,000
And I'm also reminded that Jesus told us in great care and image that we are to love our neighbors as ourselves, and we are to love one another as he loved us.

3143
03:29:49,000 --> 03:29:59,000
I'm afraid for our Muslim brothers and sisters, especially those of our refugees. I'm afraid for their safety.

3144
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:09,000
For the right to worship as they believe, and I know that there are elements in this community that strongly oppose them.

3145
03:30:09,000 --> 03:30:21,000
From 2012 to 2016, Emma Rillo took in 569 refugees.

3146
03:30:21,000 --> 03:30:28,000
Of that, that is a small amount in a city of approximately 200,000.

3147
03:30:29,000 --> 03:30:37,000
We educate them in our schools. They work in our businesses. They own businesses. They fight for our country.

3148
03:30:37,000 --> 03:30:43,000
And they contribute to our community and make our lives much richer and more diverse.

3149
03:30:43,000 --> 03:30:49,000
I feel this very personally, because I am the proud first generation.

3150
03:30:49,000 --> 03:30:56,000
My grandparents came from Scotland. And so I feel very deeply.

3151
03:30:56,000 --> 03:31:06,000
I am asking that you search each of your hearts and ask yourself what Emma Rillo Texas can do to ensure the safety of our Muslim brothers and sisters.

3152
03:31:06,000 --> 03:31:12,000
What can we do to be a more welcoming community to our immigrants and refugees?

3153
03:31:12,000 --> 03:31:20,000
And I don't expect any answer today, but I would like you to search your hearts and your minds on that question.

3154
03:31:20,000 --> 03:31:22,000
I have a resolution.

3155
03:31:22,000 --> 03:31:24,000
I'm sorry, but your three minutes is okay.

3156
03:31:24,000 --> 03:31:27,000
If you would like to leave something with us, that would be great.

3157
03:31:27,000 --> 03:31:29,000
Can I give it to the officer?

3158
03:31:29,000 --> 03:31:40,000
Certainly give it to the officer and they'll present it. Thank you.

3159
03:31:40,000 --> 03:31:47,000
Good evening. My name is Gus Corey, and I live on 2004 South Bonham Street.

3160
03:31:47,000 --> 03:31:51,000
I want to say something along the lines that other lady had said.

3161
03:31:51,000 --> 03:31:53,000
Sir, I can't hear you.

3162
03:31:53,000 --> 03:31:59,000
Emma Rillo has one of the largest refugee populations in the country, which adds to its diversity.

3163
03:31:59,000 --> 03:32:04,000
Now I love the spirit of the city and the kindness and generosity of its people.

3164
03:32:04,000 --> 03:32:10,000
Earlier, the Honorable Councilman said that in Emma Rillo we value people.

3165
03:32:10,000 --> 03:32:16,000
Some things in the news right now, and I've been had me concerned.

3166
03:32:16,000 --> 03:32:22,000
I feel there's a great need for dialogue in this town for understanding.

3167
03:32:22,000 --> 03:32:25,000
Mr. Burkett.

3168
03:32:25,000 --> 03:32:30,000
Sir, if you are going to make a personal reference, I'd caution you.

3169
03:32:30,000 --> 03:32:31,000
Yes, sir.

3170
03:32:31,000 --> 03:32:35,000
Not to venue for any personal concerns.

3171
03:32:35,000 --> 03:32:45,000
I hope that we find ways to speak with our local Islamic leaders and working class Muslims and refugees in town.

3172
03:32:45,000 --> 03:32:53,000
People who represent.

3173
03:32:53,000 --> 03:32:57,000
Meet some of the Emerilins who are affected by this negative rhetoric.

3174
03:32:57,000 --> 03:32:59,000
Learn about them in their stories.

3175
03:32:59,000 --> 03:33:03,000
They're not afraid to you. They're not afraid to this country.

3176
03:33:03,000 --> 03:33:05,000
They're not. They are this country.

3177
03:33:05,000 --> 03:33:13,000
Many of them have run away from their hometown, shattered by war and hate to come here for safety and liberty.

3178
03:33:14,000 --> 03:33:19,000
I'm worried. I don't want to see this city become Victoria Texas or Quebec.

3179
03:33:19,000 --> 03:33:22,000
We need to talk. We need to understand one another.

3180
03:33:22,000 --> 03:33:31,000
I hope that you all would join me learn more about those difference from you who share the love for Emarello, the love for this country.

3181
03:33:31,000 --> 03:33:32,000
Thank you for your comments.

3182
03:33:32,000 --> 03:33:35,000
Thank you.

3183
03:33:36,000 --> 03:33:40,000
Welcome, sir.

3184
03:33:40,000 --> 03:33:41,000
Thank you.

3185
03:33:41,000 --> 03:33:44,000
Mark Gold 517 Southwest 770.

3186
03:33:44,000 --> 03:33:48,000
Thank you, Mr. Mayor, council.

3187
03:33:48,000 --> 03:33:50,000
For your time today, I appreciate everything you do.

3188
03:33:50,000 --> 03:33:53,000
That said, I am here to discuss Mr. Berkett's comments on social media.

3189
03:33:53,000 --> 03:33:55,000
I will be careful, sir.

3190
03:33:55,000 --> 03:34:00,000
In exchange with the name of the resident, the council member say the following.

3191
03:34:00,000 --> 03:34:03,000
You are a Muslim and it's no secret how you feel about all Jewish people.

3192
03:34:03,000 --> 03:34:07,000
Kyle Bell's is merely a product for environment being homeschooled and brainwashed.

3193
03:34:07,000 --> 03:34:10,000
Sir, I'm going to ask you what this has to do with our city's policies.

3194
03:34:10,000 --> 03:34:11,000
Yes, sir.

3195
03:34:11,000 --> 03:34:13,000
Excuse me. Let me finish.

3196
03:34:13,000 --> 03:34:19,000
I want to ask you if you can define how this applies to our city's policies, programs or services.

3197
03:34:19,000 --> 03:34:27,000
And also before you go, I'd like our city attorney to remind us how unusual it is to have this comment time at the end of meetings.

3198
03:34:27,000 --> 03:34:31,000
We'll give you your time, your help, your clock is held.

3199
03:34:31,000 --> 03:34:35,000
Well, Mayor, I guess you're asking me about my experience with other cities.

3200
03:34:35,000 --> 03:34:36,000
Yes, I am.

3201
03:34:36,000 --> 03:34:38,000
Yes, it is.

3202
03:34:38,000 --> 03:34:41,000
An usual for this type of a form at the end of meetings.

3203
03:34:41,000 --> 03:34:46,000
Typically, they're held at the start of meetings or not at all.

3204
03:34:46,000 --> 03:34:53,000
So, I think Emerilow is in the minority as far as end of meeting public forums.

3205
03:34:53,000 --> 03:34:59,000
Like this, often cities at point council member and rotation are a staff member to meet with members of the public.

3206
03:34:59,000 --> 03:35:03,000
After meetings and then there can be an interchange, but you don't have that here.

3207
03:35:03,000 --> 03:35:08,000
See, the problem I have and I have since I served on this council is we can't respond.

3208
03:35:08,000 --> 03:35:10,000
I can't tell you it's in my heart.

3209
03:35:10,000 --> 03:35:12,000
You can pour your heart out to us.

3210
03:35:12,000 --> 03:35:14,000
We cannot respond either way.

3211
03:35:14,000 --> 03:35:16,000
It's illegal for us too.

3212
03:35:16,000 --> 03:35:18,000
And so, it's illegal.

3213
03:35:18,000 --> 03:35:20,000
If I request a response?

3214
03:35:20,000 --> 03:35:21,000
Yes.

3215
03:35:21,000 --> 03:35:22,000
We cannot.

3216
03:35:22,000 --> 03:35:24,000
And so, I had somebody present.

3217
03:35:24,000 --> 03:35:26,000
Well, they thought it was in my heart earlier today.

3218
03:35:26,000 --> 03:35:29,000
It's a 180 degrees out from what's in my heart.

3219
03:35:29,000 --> 03:35:31,000
And so, I cannot respond to that.

3220
03:35:31,000 --> 03:35:36,000
So, I want everybody to understand that he has to hold our hands and say,

3221
03:35:36,000 --> 03:35:38,000
You cannot do that.

3222
03:35:38,000 --> 03:35:43,000
And I want to ask you if this is the best forum for a message that somebody has.

3223
03:35:43,000 --> 03:35:46,000
Our businesses do the city's business.

3224
03:35:46,000 --> 03:35:47,000
Fortunately, you were here to see.

3225
03:35:47,000 --> 03:35:50,000
This was a pretty complex meeting today.

3226
03:35:50,000 --> 03:35:52,000
And we are here to do that.

3227
03:35:52,000 --> 03:35:55,000
We're here to understand your issues and a lesson.

3228
03:35:55,000 --> 03:35:59,000
But at this point, it is very frustrating that we can't respond.

3229
03:35:59,000 --> 03:36:02,000
And so, I'm happy to talk to you afterwards.

3230
03:36:02,000 --> 03:36:04,000
The media is here too.

3231
03:36:04,000 --> 03:36:10,000
But I would just ask you and ask others that is this the best venue for those comments.

3232
03:36:10,000 --> 03:36:12,000
I don't know what's in your heart either.

3233
03:36:12,000 --> 03:36:16,000
But I won't get to it because we won't have an exchange today.

3234
03:36:16,000 --> 03:36:17,000
Thank you.

3235
03:36:17,000 --> 03:36:22,000
You believe it is an appropriate venue on account of the fact that Mr. Berkett is a representative.

3236
03:36:22,000 --> 03:36:27,000
And I do have a section here that I'd like to get to quickly all jump ahead to the end of it.

3237
03:36:27,000 --> 03:36:29,000
And I do think it is relevant.

3238
03:36:29,000 --> 03:36:31,000
Was it city business?

3239
03:36:31,000 --> 03:36:33,000
Potentially?

3240
03:36:33,000 --> 03:36:35,000
Was it city business?

3241
03:36:35,000 --> 03:36:37,000
You heard our business today.

3242
03:36:37,000 --> 03:36:39,000
You heard what we had to deal with.

3243
03:36:39,000 --> 03:36:42,000
Tell me how it's city business.

3244
03:36:42,000 --> 03:36:47,000
Well, sir.

3245
03:36:47,000 --> 03:36:51,000
The gentleman earlier referenced Victoria Texas in South Texas.

3246
03:36:51,000 --> 03:36:55,000
There was a mosque that was burned down just Saturday evening.

3247
03:36:55,000 --> 03:37:04,000
I believe it is city business if there is a aggressive dialogue coming from the city council towards a particular group.

3248
03:37:04,000 --> 03:37:11,000
That kind of dialogue can lead to things like what happened in South Texas or I just like to address that briefly.

3249
03:37:11,000 --> 03:37:14,000
Understanding that you won't know our answer.

3250
03:37:14,000 --> 03:37:15,000
We can't respond.

3251
03:37:15,000 --> 03:37:17,000
Please stop the clock for a minute.

3252
03:37:17,000 --> 03:37:18,000
We cannot respond.

3253
03:37:18,000 --> 03:37:25,000
You won't know what is any of our hearts unless you speak to us after we're allowed legally to visit about it.

3254
03:37:25,000 --> 03:37:27,000
But we simply can't respond.

3255
03:37:27,000 --> 03:37:31,000
And I do not personally like being judged because I don't respond.

3256
03:37:31,000 --> 03:37:34,000
And someone earlier tried to judge my viewpoint.

3257
03:37:34,000 --> 03:37:36,000
And they added 180 degrees out.

3258
03:37:36,000 --> 03:37:39,000
So I will tell you, I don't appreciate that.

3259
03:37:39,000 --> 03:37:43,000
And I don't want somebody trying to set the stage for judging anyone up here.

3260
03:37:43,000 --> 03:37:45,000
When you don't know our hearts.

3261
03:37:45,000 --> 03:37:46,000
Go ahead.

3262
03:37:46,000 --> 03:37:48,000
I was a minute and 13 second.

3263
03:37:48,000 --> 03:37:50,000
Yes, sir. I'm simply quoting what Mr. Berkett said.

3264
03:37:50,000 --> 03:37:51,000
I'm not making any judgments.

3265
03:37:51,000 --> 03:37:52,000
You're a minute.

3266
03:37:52,000 --> 03:37:53,000
10 seconds.

3267
03:37:53,000 --> 03:37:54,000
Yes, sir.

3268
03:37:54,000 --> 03:37:59,000
I would urge all of you who feel the USA is treating you poorly to simply move to the middle east where you can live under Sri Allah and quote.

3269
03:37:59,000 --> 03:38:08,000
This type of statement is disturbing because it suggests the council member might not be open to complaints of potentially marginalized community in this city.

3270
03:38:08,000 --> 03:38:11,000
Like I said, a mosque in South Texas was set on fire early Saturday morning.

3271
03:38:11,000 --> 03:38:16,000
This place of worship has been targeted with the aggressive and divisive language from every level of the government that represents it.

3272
03:38:16,000 --> 03:38:18,000
Municipal State and Federal.

3273
03:38:18,000 --> 03:38:23,000
Chapter two of the Texas Municipal League Handbook for Mayor Mayors and Council members says quote.

3274
03:38:23,000 --> 03:38:33,000
The real task of a city council member is providing leadership and direction for the city in deciding what needs to be done and helping plan what the city will be for future generations.

3275
03:38:33,000 --> 03:38:36,000
Since you can't respond, I wasn't aware of that.

3276
03:38:36,000 --> 03:38:39,000
I was going to ask what the council's opinion is.

3277
03:38:39,000 --> 03:38:41,000
But I'll jump ahead and just say.

3278
03:38:41,000 --> 03:38:47,000
Council member Kett, the newly 700-damerola women and children who marched on January 21st, sir.

3279
03:38:47,000 --> 03:38:52,000
They do not appreciate being referred to as Turkey's when they're marching to get their elected officials attention.

3280
03:38:52,000 --> 03:38:55,000
I would ask all of you.

3281
03:38:55,000 --> 03:39:04,000
I'm sure that you have to visit the local Islamic Community Center and talk to them instead of just making generalizations about over 5,000-year-old residents.

3282
03:39:04,000 --> 03:39:05,000
Thank you for your time.

3283
03:39:05,000 --> 03:39:07,000
Thank you.

3284
03:39:07,000 --> 03:39:12,000
Thank you.

3285
03:39:21,000 --> 03:39:22,000
Welcome.

3286
03:39:22,000 --> 03:39:25,000
Thank you, Mr. Mayor, and Council people.

3287
03:39:25,000 --> 03:39:26,000
That's good.

3288
03:39:26,000 --> 03:39:28,000
My name is Kathleen Fairweather.

3289
03:39:28,000 --> 03:39:33,000
My address is five, three, zero, six, south, faint.

3290
03:39:33,000 --> 03:39:41,000
And I want to direct this towards the city policy of external communications of the elected officials and city employees.

3291
03:39:41,000 --> 03:39:43,000
Madam, do you mind staying close to that mic?

3292
03:39:43,000 --> 03:39:45,000
Because I missed part of what you just said.

3293
03:39:45,000 --> 03:39:46,000
Okay.

3294
03:39:46,000 --> 03:39:47,000
It's hard to do that.

3295
03:39:47,000 --> 03:39:48,000
I know, but please.

3296
03:39:48,000 --> 03:39:59,000
This is just to address the city policy on external communications with elected officials and with city employees.

3297
03:39:59,000 --> 03:40:06,000
So, elected officials answer to all of the people, not just some of the people.

3298
03:40:06,000 --> 03:40:15,000
Making hate, hateful comments and dismissing those who don't agree with you is not what our officials are elected to do.

3299
03:40:15,000 --> 03:40:23,000
As Americans, we have the right to have our own opinions and remain in our own homes.

3300
03:40:23,000 --> 03:40:24,000
Thank you.

3301
03:40:24,000 --> 03:40:25,000
Thank you.

3302
03:40:25,000 --> 03:40:35,000
Welcome.

3303
03:40:35,000 --> 03:40:41,000
That mic's.

3304
03:40:41,000 --> 03:40:42,000
Hi.

3305
03:40:42,000 --> 03:40:44,000
I'm Virginia Williams.

3306
03:40:44,000 --> 03:40:47,000
I'm tri-154 Bowie Street.

3307
03:40:47,000 --> 03:40:54,000
I was here today just like I've been on other occasions to talk to you guys about.

3308
03:40:54,000 --> 03:40:59,000
Individuals experiencing homelessness in our city.

3309
03:40:59,000 --> 03:41:05,000
It's been a year since the ad hoc committee subcommittee that you'll put me on.

3310
03:41:05,000 --> 03:41:12,000
Since the council, a listing of five gaps in services.

3311
03:41:12,000 --> 03:41:16,000
The top one was needing a low barrier shelter.

3312
03:41:16,000 --> 03:41:22,000
I guess it was presented to you guys actually formally on the second of February last year.

3313
03:41:22,000 --> 03:41:27,000
So it hasn't been exactly a year yet, but nothing has happened.

3314
03:41:27,000 --> 03:41:30,000
Under the y'all investigated the cost of one.

3315
03:41:30,000 --> 03:41:36,000
That was a request that I think one of the councilman had made a few meetings ago.

3316
03:41:36,000 --> 03:41:42,000
And I think at the working session last week, it was supposed to be put on to the agenda for this week.

3317
03:41:42,000 --> 03:41:46,000
But as far as I can tell, it didn't get discussed today.

3318
03:41:46,000 --> 03:41:51,000
I know y'all have been emailed by some concerned people in the community because we have a.

3319
03:41:51,000 --> 03:41:55,000
The person in our community who is so.

3320
03:41:55,000 --> 03:42:02,000
Dead set on they're being a low barrier shelter built that he's been hunger striking for over.

3321
03:42:02,000 --> 03:42:07,000
Because it's 31 days today is not consumed any food.

3322
03:42:07,000 --> 03:42:10,000
That is of great concern to me.

3323
03:42:10,000 --> 03:42:17,000
I know that plenty of people have criticized that action because people have died and still there has not been any action.

3324
03:42:17,000 --> 03:42:21,000
That's as far as the city goes as building the low barrier shelter.

3325
03:42:21,000 --> 03:42:25,000
But we have another person that's in the process of endangering them.

3326
03:42:25,000 --> 03:42:29,000
They're trying to get y'all's attention to at least.

3327
03:42:29,000 --> 03:42:31,000
Talk about it if you're not going to do it.

3328
03:42:31,000 --> 03:42:36,000
Say you're not going to do it so that the community can come together even more than it has.

3329
03:42:36,000 --> 03:42:42,000
We've been providing emergency low barrier shelters through two to organizations.

3330
03:42:42,000 --> 03:42:44,000
The past.

3331
03:42:44,000 --> 03:42:46,000
Cold season.

3332
03:42:46,000 --> 03:42:48,000
Yellow city can y'all reach.

3333
03:42:48,000 --> 03:42:57,000
And we're all housing first of both and providing those temporary shelters for when the temperature gets extremely extremely cold because we don't want anyone else to freeze it.

3334
03:42:57,000 --> 03:43:02,000
But we really need to have a year round low barrier shelter for the city.

3335
03:43:02,000 --> 03:43:06,000
The ad hoc committee came up with it as a solution.

3336
03:43:06,000 --> 03:43:08,000
We have a meeting with care.

3337
03:43:08,000 --> 03:43:10,000
If I talk to them they all agree.

3338
03:43:10,000 --> 03:43:12,000
No one seems to object to the idea to do it.

3339
03:43:12,000 --> 03:43:14,000
But it's not moving forward.

3340
03:43:14,000 --> 03:43:20,000
So anyway, I just wanted to bring that to y'all's attention again since it's we're at the year anniversary.

3341
03:43:20,000 --> 03:43:22,000
That.

3342
03:43:22,000 --> 03:43:24,000
Mysteries.

3343
03:43:24,000 --> 03:43:26,000
Statement of fact.

3344
03:43:26,000 --> 03:43:30,000
There was an absolute disagreement from that subcommittee that came back to us.

3345
03:43:30,000 --> 03:43:32,000
There were various views.

3346
03:43:32,000 --> 03:43:34,000
And so I would not on that one point.

3347
03:43:34,000 --> 03:43:35,000
Excuse me, ma'am.

3348
03:43:35,000 --> 03:43:40,000
I would ask you to get with us afterwards because there was widespread disagreement.

3349
03:43:40,000 --> 03:43:43,000
There were people that quit the committee because it couldn't be resolved.

3350
03:43:43,000 --> 03:43:44,000
They spoke to me.

3351
03:43:44,000 --> 03:43:46,000
I'd be happy to talk to you about it.

3352
03:43:46,000 --> 03:43:49,000
I personally would be happy to talk to you about it afterwards.

3353
03:43:49,000 --> 03:43:51,000
I went to all the continue of care meetings.

3354
03:43:51,000 --> 03:43:53,000
I've gone to all the ad hoc committee meetings.

3355
03:43:53,000 --> 03:43:54,000
Subcommittee meetings.

3356
03:43:54,000 --> 03:43:57,000
Not one person disagreed on the low barrier shelter point.

3357
03:43:57,000 --> 03:43:59,000
There were other points of disagreement.

3358
03:43:59,000 --> 03:44:01,000
Feed a proposed feeding ordinance which was.

3359
03:44:01,000 --> 03:44:04,000
I'll give you a list to disagree after the meeting.

3360
03:44:04,000 --> 03:44:05,000
Thank you.

3361
03:44:05,000 --> 03:44:06,000
Mr. City manager.

3362
03:44:06,000 --> 03:44:09,000
Could you just look into the approximate cost.

3363
03:44:09,000 --> 03:44:13,000
What do we cost to maintain one annually or in the cost build one?

3364
03:44:13,000 --> 03:44:19,000
And for clarification on the comment that was made regarding the requests for.

3365
03:44:19,000 --> 03:44:24,000
You know, and every one of our meetings, we ask is there a request for a written report or a presentation.

3366
03:44:24,000 --> 03:44:25,000
A council member.

3367
03:44:25,000 --> 03:44:29,000
Nare requested that that one of those be taking up with this particular issue.

3368
03:44:29,000 --> 03:44:31,000
I have spoken with council member.

3369
03:44:31,000 --> 03:44:41,000
Thank you.

3370
03:44:41,000 --> 03:44:50,000
Thank you.

3371
03:44:50,000 --> 03:45:00,000
Thank you.

3372
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:06,000
You know, I'm really concerned how I really appreciate you controlling the situation that could possibly come up here.

3373
03:45:06,000 --> 03:45:19,000
And one of the things that concern me, though, is your discussion of the public form, which I believe is probably one of the most critical areas where citizens can come and do it in the proper way.

3374
03:45:19,000 --> 03:45:29,000
And I've tried to over the times, even though, well, I've got Gabbled and, you know, I've sort of spoken up and, you know, and, you know, my plan is to sit up there.

3375
03:45:30,000 --> 03:45:40,000
And, you know, with that reality, I would like to hear from citizens not only from here, but on other forms and things.

3376
03:45:40,000 --> 03:45:59,000
And as that citizen, I think I have the right to have my feelings about different things that, even now, I see, I've sort of curbed my passion for our country and for our lives.

3377
03:45:59,000 --> 03:46:10,000
Would you help defend and many did, you know? And so, I have a passion about speaking to the government and, you know, and that's what we're at.

3378
03:46:10,000 --> 03:46:18,000
So, please, I don't know what the other cities are doing, but if they're not letting people step up and speak.

3379
03:46:18,000 --> 03:46:23,000
Now, you can't get into all the other things, and I appreciate you all controlling that, though. Thanks.

3380
03:46:23,000 --> 03:46:36,000
Mr. City Manager, I would like, in reference to this, and agenda item next week, in the work session, to talk about alternatives, that I would suggest could be more productive, and I hope the citizens would agree.

3381
03:46:36,000 --> 03:46:39,000
As anyone else on the Council want to hear this discussion?

3382
03:46:39,000 --> 03:46:42,000
I would. Okay.

3383
03:46:42,000 --> 03:46:50,000
Okay. We have three people to want to hear that discussion. It's a discussion. It's not a decision.

3384
03:46:51,000 --> 03:46:54,000
Thank you. Anyone else, please?

3385
03:46:54,000 --> 03:47:01,000
No, someone left their pan here. I'm Melody Malif, and I live in, I live in Finland.

3386
03:47:01,000 --> 03:47:10,000
I wanted to say how grateful I am that some of our bonds passed, especially those for street improvements in for our animal welfare department.

3387
03:47:10,000 --> 03:47:19,000
We have desperately needed improvements at our city pound, and we've made great improvements in the last few years, but there's still a lot to be done.

3388
03:47:19,000 --> 03:47:25,000
Those bonds are now out and ready to buy because I've looked at them, and I'm getting ready to purchase them.

3389
03:47:25,000 --> 03:47:32,000
They're triple I write it insured, and so I would ask all my fellow citizens to look at those.

3390
03:47:33,000 --> 03:47:38,000
In that lot, some of those bonds are allocated for street improvements.

3391
03:47:38,000 --> 03:47:47,000
I live in a neighborhood that, in Pucket West, we are boxed in from the north. We don't have anybody to get out in the north because of the mall.

3392
03:47:47,000 --> 03:47:57,000
On the west side, we have the terror of Sonsi Drive, which the highway department cut off our right turn lane a few years ago.

3393
03:47:57,000 --> 03:48:04,000
We have one other way we can get out if we go back south, then we're boxed in on the south by 34th the east on culture.

3394
03:48:04,000 --> 03:48:14,000
We don't have a school, we don't have a park, and all those, there's no place if you want to have a picnic, play ball, watch your dog, there's really no place to do that.

3395
03:48:14,000 --> 03:48:21,000
So when you're considering all the growth in the community, please remember there are some of us that have been in neighborhoods over 30 years.

3396
03:48:21,000 --> 03:48:28,000
We don't have any place to enjoy a lot of these basic things, and would like us citizens for you to consider that.

3397
03:48:28,000 --> 03:48:39,000
On that note, we had some street improvements several years ago, and would like to see some of the funds that you're allocating for improvement to go back and sweep up all those rocks.

3398
03:48:39,000 --> 03:48:48,000
There's still there. I was walking my dogs last year on a sidewalk, cross an alley, and literally my left foot went forward.

3399
03:48:48,000 --> 03:48:53,000
Like I was on roller skates, my right foot went back behind me, and I broke my ankle.

3400
03:48:53,000 --> 03:49:03,000
So there's still dangers there. I know the rocks move around, but we really need to allocate some of that money to go back and clean up from the old project,

3401
03:49:03,000 --> 03:49:13,000
especially in those entrances to the alleys where those rocks pull. It's a hazard to the young and the old and to people who ride bicycles.

3402
03:49:13,000 --> 03:49:18,000
But again, we appreciate your hard work and getting those bonds passed and approved.

3403
03:49:18,000 --> 03:49:29,000
I think our city will do good with those improvements and asking the citizens to support those bonds and reap the benefits.

3404
03:49:29,000 --> 03:49:32,000
Please, Mr. Luf.

3405
03:49:32,000 --> 03:49:38,000
If Kyle, you raise your hand. If you would give Kyle the address, we'll do better because we don't need the extra money.

3406
03:49:38,000 --> 03:49:44,000
We already have street sweepers that are already sweep, so we just need to know the street address, and we'll see the entire bucket was.

3407
03:49:44,000 --> 03:49:46,000
And we'll relay that onto the streets department.

3408
03:49:46,000 --> 03:49:58,000
Mr. Interim City Manager, I would request that we have a roving patrol for a period of time, just like we go through every alley and pick up the with a grapple hook.

3409
03:49:58,000 --> 03:50:06,000
That we look at all the streets because we know that that has been a certain and a complaint for many years.

3410
03:50:06,000 --> 03:50:10,000
And we sometimes not been able to do that adequately because of weather or whatever.

3411
03:50:10,000 --> 03:50:12,000
So I wish we'd review the whole city.

3412
03:50:12,000 --> 03:50:16,000
And the focus will be on the streets that had done the seal coating because those are the loose rocks.

3413
03:50:16,000 --> 03:50:21,000
We actually, we actually, as a practice, don't sweep residential streets, but those that have gone through seal coating certainly.

3414
03:50:21,000 --> 03:50:27,000
And you do, I think, two times if we watch the video, there is a video online telling how that process works.

3415
03:50:27,000 --> 03:50:31,000
It's a crummy process, but it's the best one we know of to fix those streets.

3416
03:50:31,000 --> 03:50:36,000
I mean, I've literally, when I've walked my dogs pretty regularly, I literally, one day was walking.

3417
03:50:36,000 --> 03:50:45,000
There was a man that had a shovel and a trash can and was in the gutter shoveling the rocks out just so he could get him, so he could park there.

3418
03:50:45,000 --> 03:50:48,000
Don't question anything you're saying, man, thank you.

3419
03:50:48,000 --> 03:50:50,000
Anyone else?

3420
03:50:50,000 --> 03:50:52,000
Yeah, I don't know if you're going to go through a quick.

3421
03:50:52,000 --> 03:50:54,000
Get rid of 6850 growing down.

3422
03:50:54,000 --> 03:50:57,000
I'm going to have to talk real fast because I have a whole lot of things to say.

3423
03:50:57,000 --> 03:51:04,000
First off, I want to take off my YCCO hat and put on my Randy Birkett hat.

3424
03:51:04,000 --> 03:51:05,000
You're my friend.

3425
03:51:05,000 --> 03:51:09,000
I've got your back in any situation, anytime, anywhere.

3426
03:51:09,000 --> 03:51:10,000
I just want you to know that.

3427
03:51:10,000 --> 03:51:11,000
Thank you.

3428
03:51:11,000 --> 03:51:13,000
Now, back on to YCCO.

3429
03:51:13,000 --> 03:51:16,000
You're just talking about cleaning up the end of the alleys and stuff like this.

3430
03:51:16,000 --> 03:51:19,000
I have a few people that come to me in the past week.

3431
03:51:19,000 --> 03:51:27,000
They're so impressed with the generosity of our city and our community that they're wanting to give a little back.

3432
03:51:27,000 --> 03:51:33,000
So they're asking me, hey, can we go out and do something for the city?

3433
03:51:33,000 --> 03:51:38,000
I told them, I said, I'm sure we can, because everywhere you look, you see trash.

3434
03:51:38,000 --> 03:51:42,000
So I've got a crew that's willing to get up.

3435
03:51:42,000 --> 03:51:44,000
They're volunteering their time.

3436
03:51:44,000 --> 03:51:48,000
I'm going to volunteer my truck and my time and my fuel.

3437
03:51:48,000 --> 03:51:53,000
We just want to talk to, I've been talking with James and I've been talking with Kevin.

3438
03:51:53,000 --> 03:51:56,000
And we haven't got the details, worked out or anything yet.

3439
03:51:56,000 --> 03:51:58,000
But we're going to make this work.

3440
03:51:58,000 --> 03:52:03,000
I kind of want to try to get rid of the stigma that people say about the homeless.

3441
03:52:03,000 --> 03:52:04,000
They're lazy.

3442
03:52:04,000 --> 03:52:07,000
They just don't want to work or they wouldn't be there.

3443
03:52:07,000 --> 03:52:08,000
This isn't true.

3444
03:52:08,000 --> 03:52:10,000
It is for some of me.

3445
03:52:10,000 --> 03:52:13,000
But it's not true as a general rule.

3446
03:52:13,000 --> 03:52:17,000
So we're trying to put a little bit of a work program together with the homeless here.

3447
03:52:17,000 --> 03:52:21,000
And we're trying to clean our city up, make it look pretty.

3448
03:52:21,000 --> 03:52:29,000
These people are just trying to give back a little bit of what they've received from the generosity of all the people in this city.

3449
03:52:29,000 --> 03:52:32,000
Our low barrier shelter.

3450
03:52:32,000 --> 03:52:39,000
There's no way it would work without the help of the citizens of this city and the surrounding towns.

3451
03:52:39,000 --> 03:52:42,000
So, you know, it's, it's what's been making it work.

3452
03:52:42,000 --> 03:52:46,000
But these people just want to give a little back.

3453
03:52:46,000 --> 03:52:50,000
And so as soon as we can get the details worked out,

3454
03:52:50,000 --> 03:52:54,000
I'm asking for y'all support on this program.

3455
03:52:54,000 --> 03:52:57,000
I know y'all have a work program already established.

3456
03:52:57,000 --> 03:53:01,000
And to me, the success of that work program is so important.

3457
03:53:01,000 --> 03:53:06,000
And I will do anything I can to help ensure the success of that program.

3458
03:53:06,000 --> 03:53:11,000
But these people, we're just going to do this on our own.

3459
03:53:11,000 --> 03:53:14,000
They're just wanting to give back a little bit.

3460
03:53:14,000 --> 03:53:17,000
It's not so much that they need to hand out.

3461
03:53:17,000 --> 03:53:21,000
They just need to hand up and the hand out that y'all are giving them.

3462
03:53:21,000 --> 03:53:24,000
They want to give a little bit back.

3463
03:53:24,000 --> 03:53:28,000
So, I'm going to ask for it when we do get the details worked out and stuff.

3464
03:53:28,000 --> 03:53:32,000
I am going to ask for y'all support on this in any way we can.

3465
03:53:33,000 --> 03:53:35,000
The way I've got it worked out.

3466
03:53:35,000 --> 03:53:37,000
I don't think it's going to cost the city anything,

3467
03:53:37,000 --> 03:53:41,000
except possibly if we could get y'all to wave the dump fees.

3468
03:53:41,000 --> 03:53:45,000
You know, we picked up tires, we'll pick up trash.

3469
03:53:45,000 --> 03:53:49,000
We'll scoop up gravel at the end of the alleys.

3470
03:53:49,000 --> 03:53:52,000
You just let us know what needs to be done.

3471
03:53:52,000 --> 03:53:53,000
We've got it.

3472
03:53:53,000 --> 03:53:54,000
Thank you very much.

3473
03:53:54,000 --> 03:53:59,000
You can continue the conversation with our staff that have been talking to them.

3474
03:53:59,000 --> 03:54:03,000
Thank you.

3475
03:54:03,000 --> 03:54:04,000
Thank you.

3476
03:54:04,000 --> 03:54:05,000
Anyone else?

3477
03:54:05,000 --> 03:54:14,000
Mr. Firmler, 5723, South Malam, I did want to let you down.

3478
03:54:14,000 --> 03:54:17,000
I came to apologize to the city commission.

3479
03:54:17,000 --> 03:54:19,000
My comments have last week.

3480
03:54:19,000 --> 03:54:23,000
I was a little bit out of hand because I wasn't aware of what you were trying to do with the

3481
03:54:23,000 --> 03:54:24,000
ADC efforts.

3482
03:54:24,000 --> 03:54:26,000
I apologize for that.

3483
03:54:26,000 --> 03:54:28,000
I brought up some information from,

3484
03:54:28,000 --> 03:54:32,000
Mr. Kyle last week that I was not well informed to know that you guys were all

3485
03:54:32,000 --> 03:54:33,000
a polluted.

3486
03:54:33,000 --> 03:54:36,000
Thank you for being here.

3487
03:54:36,000 --> 03:54:40,000
I do have a comment about Excel, because Excel did a great job along Georgia and 58th

3488
03:54:40,000 --> 03:54:45,000
Street and put it up there, putting up there post, post.

3489
03:54:45,000 --> 03:54:47,000
They changed it on that.

3490
03:54:47,000 --> 03:54:53,000
They also took the uh, they made a location along Washington and 58th Street and

3491
03:54:53,000 --> 03:55:02,200
street and have fence that end. They also built a drive that this has large rock that they are

3492
03:55:02,200 --> 03:55:09,000
crossing the sidewalk with to get into that lot and they're leaving these large rocks on that

3493
03:55:09,000 --> 03:55:15,960
sidewalk as they drive across the sidewalk. There's not a proper entry for, and that's at 58th and

3494
03:55:15,960 --> 03:55:22,520
Washington they put up against the railroad tracks or for instance. It's on the west side of the

3495
03:55:22,520 --> 03:55:29,800
Washington and where that is. They've taken that facility for putting some of their supplies in there

3496
03:55:29,800 --> 03:55:36,120
and fence at all in but they have made a driveway but they're crossing the sidewalk and when they do

3497
03:55:36,120 --> 03:55:41,640
they pick up their large rocks that they put in for the driveway and they're leaving it on the sidewalk.

3498
03:55:41,640 --> 03:55:47,320
We'll get the message back to them. I appreciate that. I'm not complaining about Excel. They do a great job. Thank you.

3499
03:55:47,320 --> 03:56:04,360
We believe you're right. Any other comments? Thank you for being, excuse me. Please come up. Please come up.

3500
03:56:12,440 --> 03:56:20,200
Okay. My name is Alexis Roberts. I live at 1924 South Seminole Street. Thank you for letting me take time to speak in

3501
03:56:20,200 --> 03:56:24,360
front of the council and sitting in on this meeting. I've heard some really great comments. Things like

3502
03:56:24,920 --> 03:56:32,360
we value people and it's the people in the community that make the difference. These statements are so valid and

3503
03:56:32,360 --> 03:56:37,720
Amarillo's community is comprised of varying ethnicities, races, religions, socioeconomic,

3504
03:56:37,720 --> 03:56:43,400
statuses, sexual orientations, and political belief systems. I'm a second generation Mexican American.

3505
03:56:43,960 --> 03:56:52,120
I'm a founder and facilitator of an LGBT QA support group in Pampa starting a rainbow for the record.

3506
03:56:52,120 --> 03:56:59,240
I'm a member of PWPJS and currently a social work student at WT. I'm a proud voter of Potter County.

3507
03:56:59,240 --> 03:57:04,680
I'm preparing to be a policymaker. I'm preparing to change the world. So that's why I'm here.

3508
03:57:05,480 --> 03:57:11,480
I'm dedicated to building bridges. I'm dedicated to the ideas of social justice and equality. I'm also a firm believer

3509
03:57:11,480 --> 03:57:16,280
that our city boards and councils should be a representation of the best of what Amarillo has to offer.

3510
03:57:17,160 --> 03:57:21,400
It is imperative that the behaviors demonstrated by the leaders of Amarillo including those

3511
03:57:21,400 --> 03:57:27,400
executed on social media be held at the standard that perpetuates the overall professional and all inclusive

3512
03:57:27,640 --> 03:57:34,440
representation that Amarillo deserves. Even in the most diversified cultures,

3513
03:57:34,440 --> 03:57:39,640
we experience our own biases concerning individuals who are assuming to be outside of our personal comfort zones.

3514
03:57:40,200 --> 03:57:46,120
My response to these types of behaviors is that these people subject to our biases and prejudice

3515
03:57:46,120 --> 03:57:52,360
and even sometimes reverse discrimination are the bridges between our cultures. We cannot lessen the gaps

3516
03:57:52,360 --> 03:57:56,040
between any two differentiating cultures whether the people who walk between them.

3517
03:57:57,080 --> 03:58:01,480
And I find this to be consistent in every case where there is a culture gap, a lack of understanding,

3518
03:58:01,480 --> 03:58:06,840
and a fear that when we realize that we are in fact ignorant, making connections between cultures,

3519
03:58:06,840 --> 03:58:11,560
educating ourselves admitting and confronting our biases, these are the tools that we've been given

3520
03:58:11,560 --> 03:58:17,800
to defeat the monster known as prejudice. Thank you. May love find you an acceptance, you'll you.

3521
03:58:22,360 --> 03:58:30,200
We're adjourned. Thank you for being here.