1 00:01:08,500 --> 00:01:14,500 Good afternoon everyone. I'm called this meeting to order. It is now 5 p.m., 2 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:28,020 Profit is Jennifer Beesley with stay free wear matters. We'll give the invocation and I will give them 3 00:01:28,540 --> 00:01:31,820 Pleasure you do not pledge at least let us say and please let 4 00:01:45,320 --> 00:01:46,220 us bow ahead 5 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,520 Press just while we thank you for this day 6 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:59,780 This is truly the day you made and we thank you for this meeting. We ask for your wisdom your guidance 7 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:14,860 And we ask that, we thank you for the great city of Colleen, we thank you for our military, we pray, your protection, your blessings upon our military family, and all of the residents of this great city of Colleen. 8 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:20,380 We ask for your guidance again in this meeting, and you just need me pray, Amen. 9 00:02:41,820 --> 00:02:45,080 Council, you know, motion to approve the agenda. 10 00:02:46,580 --> 00:02:47,200 Council member Brown. 11 00:02:48,100 --> 00:02:49,400 Move to approve the agenda. 12 00:02:50,300 --> 00:02:53,460 Move by Council member Brown. Council member Williams. 13 00:02:54,460 --> 00:02:55,040 I seconded. 14 00:02:56,060 --> 00:02:57,940 The second by Council member Williams. 15 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,240 Any discussion? No discussion. 16 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,980 all in favour of signify by saying yes, all opposed no 17 00:03:17,940 --> 00:03:19,240 motion passed 70. 18 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:23,900 Madam Secretary. 19 00:03:30,210 --> 00:03:35,290 Presentations item 1, PR-26-018. 20 00:03:36,370 --> 00:03:40,370 Present Proclamation for National Preparednessment. 21 00:03:41,210 --> 00:03:44,630 Mr. Mayor Sarah Williams, our director of emergency management will meet you at the front. 22 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:07,600 Before I read this population, I want to say we are recognizing the national preparedness 23 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:15,760 month of September, and it's so important for all of us to prepare for situations that may 24 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:22,420 arrive, whether it's fire, whether it's severe weather, we want to be prepared. So this is a 25 00:04:22,420 --> 00:04:28,820 good time to start in terms of planning, making sure that we have all of the items that we need 26 00:04:28,820 --> 00:04:34,960 to be ready for any given situation. And I want to say thank you to our first responders 27 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:43,020 and our emergency professionals, emergency management professionals, they do a great job in keeping 28 00:04:43,020 --> 00:04:50,960 on safe and preparing us. And what that said, it's an honor to read this population, 29 00:04:57,070 --> 00:04:59,910 where as for more than 22 years, nation. 30 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:21,040 The preparedness month has been observed. Each September, as a nation, as a nation-wide effort to raise awareness about emergency preparedness, and encourage individual, families, businesses, and communities to take proactive steps to protect lives, property, and the places we call home, and where as. 31 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:28,380 Preparedness begins with each of us and includes creating an emergency plan, building an emergency 32 00:05:28,380 --> 00:05:34,760 supply kit, staying informed through trusted emergency alerts, and taking steps to ensure 33 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:42,320 our families, neighborhoods, and communities can respond effectively when emergencies arrive. 34 00:05:44,550 --> 00:05:49,050 Whereas the City of Colleen is committed to strengthening community resilience through emergency 35 00:05:49,050 --> 00:05:55,570 planning, public education, and collaboration with British responders, emergency management 36 00:05:55,570 --> 00:06:02,290 professionals, volunteers and community partners who work year-round to safeguard our residents 37 00:06:02,810 --> 00:06:10,810 and whereas as a central Texas community, cleaning recognizes the importance of preparing 38 00:06:10,810 --> 00:06:16,910 has it, such as severe storms, flooding, tornadoes, extreme heat, and other emergencies, 39 00:06:18,390 --> 00:06:24,250 and encourages residents to take action today to help protect themselves, their families, 40 00:06:25,330 --> 00:06:31,610 and their neighbors. And whereas the city of Colleen believes, preparedness must include 41 00:06:31,610 --> 00:06:37,870 all members of our community and continue to promote accessibility, inclusion, 42 00:06:37,870 --> 00:06:47,670 a global access to emergency information, resources, services, and support for all residents. 43 00:06:51,500 --> 00:06:56,560 Now therefore, I Joseph Solomon, by virtue of the authority, vested in me as mayor of the 44 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:03,820 city of clean, do here by our proclaim the month of September 2026 as National Preparedness 45 00:07:03,820 --> 00:07:04,260 Month. 46 00:07:04,260 --> 00:07:07,020 fine Joseph Solomon. Mayor. 47 00:07:12,940 --> 00:07:13,180 Thank you. 48 00:08:04,090 --> 00:08:13,210 Okay, we will begin our work session discussions of item 7 through the pin for the September 49 00:08:14,250 --> 00:08:20,270 first 2026 regular session. No final action will be taken until regular session. 50 00:08:21,790 --> 00:08:24,190 Madam Secretary, the first item please. 51 00:08:26,010 --> 00:08:35,530 Resolutions. Item number 7, RS-26-132, consider a memorandum resolution, appointing commissioners 52 00:08:35,530 --> 00:08:38,770 to the Youth Advisory Commission for FY27. 53 00:08:42,300 --> 00:08:44,400 Good afternoon, Mayor and Council. 54 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:50,760 So today we'll be going over appointments for commissioners to the Youth Advisory Commission 55 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:51,840 for FY27. 56 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:59,000 So a little background, the Youth Advisory Commission was created in 1993 57 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,020 to serve as the liaison to the City of Colleen City Council. 58 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:07,300 The bylaws were amended and approved by City Council August 4th, which changed the number 59 00:09:07,300 --> 00:09:13,320 of commissioners that YAC is comprised of, up to 15 commissioners and unlimited resource 60 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,160 members and junior members. 61 00:09:16,900 --> 00:09:22,020 The mission statement here is to provide the youth of our community opportunities through 62 00:09:22,020 --> 00:09:27,100 volunteerism and service by taking initiatives that are directed toward effective change. 63 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:34,100 FY2027 interviews were conducted by Councilmember Bass and Parks and Recreation staff on August 1st 64 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:41,220 and 13 students are recommended to serve as commissioners for the FY27 based on their leadership 65 00:09:41,220 --> 00:09:42,980 ability and community involvement. 66 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,160 So this list will all be student representatives. 67 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:59,980 Analisa Emocho, Alamea Rivera Roman, Giuliana Lewis, Reina Cumbi, Osvaldo, Camacho, Burgos, Jackson. 68 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:12,100 Constance Stovall, Sarah Sanchez, Emiliano Quintero, Eva McQuade, Destiny Wilson, Gazelle Issa, Chelsea, 69 00:10:12,460 --> 00:10:20,480 Niewes Ortiz, and Gina Issa. Staff recommends city council appoint the recommended nominations 70 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,280 as Youth Advisory Commission for FY27. 71 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:24,220 Council, 72 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,320 is there any questions or comments? 73 00:10:33,060 --> 00:10:33,880 I do not. 74 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:45,240 Item 8, RS-26-133, consider a memorandum resolution, 75 00:10:45,620 --> 00:10:48,560 approving an amendment to the professional service 76 00:10:48,560 --> 00:10:51,500 agreement with the Schluter Group for state 77 00:10:51,500 --> 00:10:52,880 legislative representation. 78 00:10:53,540 --> 00:10:54,820 Good evening, ma'am. 79 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:57,500 Good evening, Mayor of City Council. 80 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,440 This is your item regarding amendment to the 81 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,620 and professional services agreement with the Schlitter Group. 82 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,980 The city's actively engaged with state-led 83 00:11:07,980 --> 00:11:10,300 slated process as directed by Councils State 84 00:11:10,300 --> 00:11:12,000 Legislative Priorities and Principles. 85 00:11:12,580 --> 00:11:15,100 As part of its strategy, the city has engaged 86 00:11:15,100 --> 00:11:16,740 Schlitter Group since 2002. 87 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:21,140 The term for the current contract is from August 19th, 2025. 88 00:11:21,700 --> 00:11:23,960 Through August 19th, of 2028, 89 00:11:24,460 --> 00:11:26,780 and it does renew for one successive two-year term, 90 00:11:26,860 --> 00:11:28,260 so goes through 2030. 91 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,780 The proposed amendment today, tonight, 92 00:11:30,780 --> 00:11:35,880 would reduce the $100,000 annual fee to $1 for year two of the agreement. That's year 93 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,600 two that began August this year. 94 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,360 Staff recommends that Council authorized the city manager to execute a amendment number one 95 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:47,380 to the agreement wish leader groups to reduce the annual fee of $100,000 to $1 for 96 00:11:47,380 --> 00:11:48,640 year two of this agreement. 97 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:58,080 Okay, Council, is there any questions on it? You can raise your hand because I do not see 98 00:11:58,080 --> 00:11:58,240 you. 99 00:12:00,660 --> 00:12:03,780 Okay? There are no questions. Thank you, City Secretary. 100 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,140 I'm sorry. My City Attorney. 101 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,520 Now, in City, Madam City Secretary. 102 00:12:20,500 --> 00:12:31,240 Ordinances, item number nine, OR-26-015, consider a city initiated ordinance, case Z-26-11, 103 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:39,180 One, to resound approximately 0.16 of an acre, being part of lots 1 and 5, block 6, 104 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:45,560 north-side addition from B3, local business district to R1, single-family residential 105 00:12:45,560 --> 00:12:46,180 district. 106 00:12:46,660 --> 00:12:52,940 The subject property is locally addressed as 312, East Texas Avenue, Kilaine, Texas. 107 00:12:53,580 --> 00:12:54,460 Good evening, ma'am. 108 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:55,440 Good evening. 109 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,100 Thank you. 110 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,520 Good evening, Ma'am. 111 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:06,000 of an item that was tabled at your last meeting to 112 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,140 rezone the property at 312 that used Texas Avenue. 113 00:13:12,370 --> 00:13:17,110 As you know, on May 14th of 2024, the Council directed staff to begin 114 00:13:17,110 --> 00:13:21,290 processing city-initiated rezoning cases for non-conforming 115 00:13:21,290 --> 00:13:26,730 uses. Since then, staff has processed 15 city-initiated rezoning 116 00:13:26,730 --> 00:13:34,050 cases including 123 individual parcels. All property owners within those areas that were 117 00:13:34,050 --> 00:13:37,610 rezoned were sent a letter informing them of this initiative as well as a form to consent 118 00:13:37,610 --> 00:13:42,790 or opt out of the rezoning process. So this is a summary of the city initiative cases 119 00:13:42,790 --> 00:13:49,770 process to date. So in 2024 we did seven city initiative cases including 89 parcels of those 120 00:13:49,770 --> 00:13:56,470 where you received 12 consent forms and one property owner declined to be rezoned. In 2024 121 00:13:56,470 --> 00:14:15,770 We did four city-initiated cases, which included a total of 20 parcels, and we received five consent forms, and in 2026 we've had four cases, including a total of 14 parcels, and we received only, when this was prepared we received one consent form since then I think we received total of four. 122 00:14:17,050 --> 00:14:22,530 So, of the 123 consent forms that were sent out, you received only 19 responses. 123 00:14:23,250 --> 00:14:27,210 Again, we received three cents and so it's 22 responses. 124 00:14:29,410 --> 00:14:34,870 And so based on those numbers, the overall response rate is relatively low at 15%. 125 00:14:35,510 --> 00:14:42,130 With that regard to 312 East Texas Avenue, this is the red star indicates the location of that property. 126 00:14:42,130 --> 00:14:47,970 And this is the zoning of the subject property in the surrounding area. 127 00:14:48,150 --> 00:14:50,850 This is an aerial of that personal. 128 00:14:52,250 --> 00:14:57,670 This is a view of the subject property and view of the property across the street. 129 00:14:58,810 --> 00:14:59,810 Facing east. 130 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:06,340 And facing west. Located within the infill in enhanced area on the gross sector map and designated 131 00:15:06,340 --> 00:15:11,160 traditional neighborhood on the future land use map. We noticed that the notified 63 surrounding 132 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:18,160 property owners, and we did receive the signed consent form from the property owner on August 28th. 133 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:23,500 This is the notification boundary. With that staff is recommending approval, the city initiated 134 00:15:23,500 --> 00:15:28,880 requests to rezone the property of 312 east Texas Avenue from B3 to R1 is presented, planning 135 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:30,800 Insounding Commission also recommended a proof when you'd 136 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,680 anonymously and have the answer any questions. 137 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,040 Councils, any questions? 138 00:15:35,100 --> 00:15:35,540 Comments? 139 00:15:36,980 --> 00:15:38,060 Council member Brown. 140 00:15:40,190 --> 00:15:41,210 Was this the owner occupied? 141 00:15:42,130 --> 00:15:42,730 No, ma'am. 142 00:15:43,770 --> 00:15:45,770 I think I'm looking at the right ones. 143 00:15:46,030 --> 00:15:47,930 The attachment we had on our package 144 00:15:47,930 --> 00:15:50,190 is that you had not been able to get it. 145 00:15:50,350 --> 00:15:50,590 It did. 146 00:15:50,730 --> 00:15:54,430 We received, as I said, the signed consent form on August 28th. 147 00:15:56,010 --> 00:15:57,430 And we did that by making contact. 148 00:15:57,430 --> 00:15:58,970 Well, first, we made contact with the tenant. 149 00:15:58,970 --> 00:16:00,870 Well, we attempted to make contact with the tenant. 150 00:16:01,450 --> 00:16:05,730 It was subsequently determined to the property on her was, and so we were able to make contact with him that way. 151 00:16:06,210 --> 00:16:06,990 You wrecked my mind. 152 00:16:07,230 --> 00:16:07,950 Thank you. 153 00:16:08,190 --> 00:16:09,030 Yes, ma'am. 154 00:16:09,330 --> 00:16:09,430 Good. 155 00:16:09,510 --> 00:16:10,450 Councilmember Beth. 156 00:16:14,770 --> 00:16:15,250 Why? 157 00:16:16,110 --> 00:16:18,090 The staff recommends disapproval. 158 00:16:18,990 --> 00:16:21,790 No, so the staff is recommending approval because we've received the consent form. 159 00:16:21,810 --> 00:16:22,810 Okay, got it. 160 00:16:22,810 --> 00:16:25,510 The consent form was received after the gender was posted. 161 00:16:26,150 --> 00:16:27,770 So now we've updated our recommendation. 162 00:16:28,010 --> 00:16:29,250 Now it's recommended approval. 163 00:16:29,250 --> 00:16:29,630 Yes, sir. 164 00:16:33,060 --> 00:16:33,880 Councilmember Brown? 165 00:16:34,860 --> 00:16:37,040 I'm sorry, one more question, Ms. Clemens. 166 00:16:37,700 --> 00:16:38,400 I may, ma 167 00:16:43,140 --> 00:16:43,820 'am. 168 00:16:43,980 --> 00:16:44,320 Yes, ma'am. 169 00:16:44,500 --> 00:16:45,100 Okay, thank you. 170 00:16:45,340 --> 00:16:49,900 So, our presentation clearly was not able to be updated in time. 171 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,380 When we make the motion on this one, 172 00:16:55,340 --> 00:16:58,860 ignore me, because I looked at it as if it was part of consent. 173 00:16:59,420 --> 00:17:01,140 And my question is now going to be irrelevant. 174 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,020 I have a migraine to everybody. 175 00:17:03,580 --> 00:17:04,120 I apologize. 176 00:17:07,340 --> 00:17:08,320 Thank you, ma'am. 177 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,280 uh... there's no other question so you have the next item 178 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,860 ma'am accounts madam uh... seconder 179 00:17:14,860 --> 00:17:16,420 item ten 180 00:17:16,420 --> 00:17:17,420 item ten 181 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:26,260 pH-26-027 consider a city initiated ordinance case z-26-12 182 00:17:26,260 --> 00:17:29,320 to reason approximately 0.144 183 00:17:29,900 --> 00:17:32,400 of an acre out of the age-oneel survey 184 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,400 abstract six forty five 185 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:41,200 From B3 local business district to R2, two family residential district, and lot one block, one 186 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:47,340 moleford edition, from B3 local business district to R1, single family residential district. 187 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:53,880 The subject properties are locally addressed as 1401 in 1411, moleford street, killing Texas. 188 00:17:56,210 --> 00:17:57,410 Mayor and Council, thank you. 189 00:17:57,590 --> 00:18:00,290 This item is for 1401 and 1411, moleford street. 190 00:18:01,450 --> 00:18:08,230 1401 is an existing detached single-family home in 1411 is an existing two-family home. 191 00:18:09,690 --> 00:18:13,490 As you know, both are considered legal non-conforming because they're currently zone B3, 192 00:18:13,590 --> 00:18:17,350 and if approved, this request will bring them into conformance with the zoning ordinance. 193 00:18:17,490 --> 00:18:19,830 Red star indicates location of the subject properties. 194 00:18:20,710 --> 00:18:24,870 This is the zoning of the property as well as the zoning of the surrounding properties, 195 00:18:25,990 --> 00:18:26,810 and to the area. 196 00:18:27,970 --> 00:18:30,810 This is the property at 1401 Mulfurred. 197 00:18:31,550 --> 00:18:33,810 View Facing 1401 Mulfurred. 198 00:18:35,710 --> 00:18:36,830 1411 Mulfurred. 199 00:18:37,170 --> 00:18:39,070 And facing east across the street from 1411. 200 00:18:39,890 --> 00:18:42,790 And of you facing south on Mulfurred towards Dean Avenue. 201 00:18:44,150 --> 00:18:45,450 And of you facing north. 202 00:18:46,830 --> 00:18:50,050 Subject properties are located within the infill and enhanced area on the growth sector map 203 00:18:50,050 --> 00:18:52,730 and designated traditional neighborhood on the future land use map. 204 00:18:53,270 --> 00:18:55,250 We notified 70 surrounding property owners. 205 00:18:55,250 --> 00:18:58,750 And both property owners were provided with a consent form. 206 00:18:59,270 --> 00:19:04,490 We have received the written consent form from 1411 moleford, 207 00:19:04,770 --> 00:19:10,350 but not from the property owner, 1401, the notification boundary. 208 00:19:11,250 --> 00:19:13,970 With that staff is recommending approval of the request to 209 00:19:13,970 --> 00:19:18,150 rezone 1411 moleford street from B3 to R2. 210 00:19:18,190 --> 00:19:21,490 But since we have not received the written consent form for 1401, 211 00:19:21,490 --> 00:19:26,350 we are recommending disapproval of rezoning that particular parcel. 212 00:19:26,350 --> 00:19:30,430 I'm planning and zoning recommended approval of both on July 13th unanimously. 213 00:19:31,750 --> 00:19:32,790 Council, is there any questions? 214 00:19:33,430 --> 00:19:34,770 Council member Brown. 215 00:19:39,220 --> 00:19:40,820 Council member Kimball. 216 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:42,500 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 217 00:19:42,540 --> 00:19:48,360 Based on our last meeting on this, if you don't get the written consent, do we? 218 00:19:48,420 --> 00:19:49,560 Do we have to move forward eventually? 219 00:19:50,020 --> 00:19:51,400 Or are we just going to wait for it? 220 00:19:53,300 --> 00:19:56,240 So without the written consent from that's a council's discretion. 221 00:19:56,420 --> 00:19:58,880 There's nothing prohibiting you from from rezoning the property. 222 00:19:58,880 --> 00:19:59,800 without the written concept. 223 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:14,760 We've made several attempts to contact the property owner and receive that written consent form. It is not our own or occupied either. We made contact with the tenant who indicated that he would let the property management company know. 224 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:27,000 I'm not aware if that happened or not. We don't know who the property management company is. So we've not been able to obtain the written consent at this time. So in the absence of that. 225 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,720 Um, unless Council directs otherwise, we wouldn't bring it back. 226 00:20:32,100 --> 00:20:37,540 You, do we have a, do we have options to move forward to, can we recommend to move forward with it tonight? 227 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,300 If we wanted to, you can move forward with rezoning this property. 228 00:20:41,580 --> 00:20:43,440 I've sent all required notices. 229 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:48,700 Um, where consent is not required, but I know was something that Council was concerned about. 230 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:49,980 Okay. Thank you. 231 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:53,720 Council move, bro. 232 00:20:55,380 --> 00:21:25,360 In staff's defense, this was a kind of lengthy discussion at the last meeting after the presentation where we came to, I suppose a consensus on the fact that, since there was no written proof that they were okay with the rezoning that the council would decline anything right now that came through without that consent form and moving forward staff wouldn't even take those hours to go through the process. 233 00:21:25,360 --> 00:21:32,540 process until the consent form returns to them, since then I am aware that we have at least 234 00:21:32,540 --> 00:21:38,780 one property that is going through a zoning process now that had we not done the city 235 00:21:38,780 --> 00:21:46,700 initiated prior to, then that would be properly zoned for what the intention of it is right 236 00:21:46,700 --> 00:21:47,520 now. 237 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:54,500 Um, so I'll be sticking with my recommendation to, uh, in with staff's recommendation to, uh, 238 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,700 discipline of anything where we don't have written consent just to avoid any liabilities 239 00:21:58,700 --> 00:21:59,860 in the city in future. 240 00:22:05,620 --> 00:22:09,540 Well, the discussion, okay, there is no more discussion. 241 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:11,020 Thank you, ma'am. 242 00:22:11,180 --> 00:22:11,420 Yes, sir. 243 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:12,360 Thank you so much. 244 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:16,720 Okay. 245 00:22:17,180 --> 00:22:20,680 It takes us to citizen's comments on agenda items. 246 00:22:22,180 --> 00:22:26,200 Uh, now on the time for sitting comments, citizens will have three minutes to 247 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:31,400 speak with one minute time-allotted for council for city council to be spawned with a 248 00:22:31,740 --> 00:22:34,560 statement or explanation without engaging in dialogue. 249 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:40,940 City Attorney, you call. 250 00:22:42,260 --> 00:22:43,700 And I believe this city secretary has this. 251 00:22:43,700 --> 00:22:44,160 City secretary. 252 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:44,820 Okay. 253 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,980 First speaker is Naseera Zachary. 254 00:22:56,780 --> 00:22:57,380 Good evening. 255 00:22:59,260 --> 00:23:00,020 Good evening, man. 256 00:23:00,140 --> 00:23:00,520 How are you doing? 257 00:23:00,620 --> 00:23:01,340 I'm doing well. 258 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:01,920 How much is that? 259 00:23:02,120 --> 00:23:02,440 Great. 260 00:23:03,060 --> 00:23:03,100 Thank you. 261 00:23:03,220 --> 00:23:03,640 All right. 262 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,140 My name is Naseera Zachary. 263 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,280 I'm a resident of Colleen and a social worker. 264 00:23:07,940 --> 00:23:16,440 I was looking through the proposed FY2027 budget and there's really one thing that stood out to me that is that 265 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:22,040 Colleen in the budget is that the Colleen is the growing continuing to grow and as a city grows the demand for city's 266 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:27,460 services grows with it. More people will be more demand on public safety, our streets, parks, 267 00:23:27,820 --> 00:23:32,240 developmental services, infrastructure into the departments responsible for keeping this city running. 268 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,480 But while reviewing the budget, I also looked at the city's unfunded request. 269 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:42,260 General Fund Department submitted 70 unfunded request total in over 6 million. 270 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,820 These requests included 44 and a half positions and just over 3 million in personnel 271 00:23:46,820 --> 00:23:47,480 cost. 272 00:23:48,580 --> 00:23:50,300 And those were all minor requests. 273 00:23:50,580 --> 00:23:55,460 They included staff needs involving police, fire, mental health response, animal services, 274 00:23:55,700 --> 00:23:59,660 code enforcement, parks, emergency management, and other city services. 275 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,200 Now, I'm not saying that just because the Department asked for a position, Council should 276 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:14,580 automatically funded. I understand that there's a budget, and choices must be made, but my question is how do we determine that the city can meet the needs of a growing population without those positions? 277 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:27,720 Are our own departments identified these needs, so I want to understand what criteria was used, which positions were unnecessary, which ones could wait and what happens to all the workload of those positions that aren't funded? 278 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:32,780 because Colleen is growing, naturally the work load is growing for the city as well. 279 00:24:33,220 --> 00:24:37,480 And if residents are being asked to contribute more to support that growth, which I think is fair. 280 00:24:38,860 --> 00:24:47,020 And I think it's fair to ask whether we're also making sure that the people who actually provide our city services have enough staff and resources to do their jobs. 281 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:52,680 And that leads to a bigger question about the budget, where should residents expect to see Colleen improve? 282 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:59,840 If we come back a year from now what should be different what should be better and most importantly how are we going to measure? 283 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,760 Whether the money approved in this budget actually made a difference for the people that live here. 284 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,200 I'm not asking the city to spend money just for the sake of spending it. 285 00:25:08,620 --> 00:25:14,100 I'm asking how the money we are spending connects to what residents actually experience every day. 286 00:25:14,420 --> 00:25:22,000 If Colleen is growing, I want to make sure that the city is growing with us, not just in population, but in its ability to serve the people that live here. 287 00:25:23,420 --> 00:25:24,300 Thank you. 288 00:25:24,300 --> 00:25:26,620 Thank you, ma'am. Thank you. 289 00:25:28,740 --> 00:25:29,240 Madam Secretary? 290 00:25:30,940 --> 00:25:32,500 Next speaker is Michael Fernino. 291 00:25:42,980 --> 00:25:43,560 Good evening, sir. 292 00:25:52,740 --> 00:25:55,360 Five-year capital improvement program, five-year plan. 293 00:25:55,700 --> 00:25:56,680 That's what communist do. 294 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,840 We need to do something a little bit better than that. 295 00:26:00,590 --> 00:26:01,350 We're going to tax rate. 296 00:26:02,630 --> 00:26:05,410 If you're going to vote on, I seem to recall the mayor 297 00:26:05,410 --> 00:26:10,330 that I can't paint stump speech on St. Schloer earlier this year. 298 00:26:11,030 --> 00:26:13,730 Complaining about taxes, telling us it's too high. 299 00:26:13,730 --> 00:26:19,010 we need to do something about it. And what did you do? You propose the exact same thing you did last 300 00:26:19,010 --> 00:26:26,030 year. One point shy of having to go to the voters. You cannot tax people into prosperity. 301 00:26:27,210 --> 00:26:31,770 We'll disappointed that there's not more citizens in the gallery tonight. You raise taxes, 302 00:26:31,910 --> 00:26:36,530 that's going to raise mortgage rates. And for those who say, I don't worry about taxes, I rent. 303 00:26:36,530 --> 00:26:45,010 Their rents are going to go up. Where does it stop? Where are the jobs that can support 304 00:26:45,010 --> 00:26:51,090 these constant and continual tax rates? Fiscal responsibility in this town just does 305 00:26:51,090 --> 00:26:56,330 not exist. We cannot pick a new city manager fast enough, and if there's any true fiscal 306 00:26:56,330 --> 00:27:01,830 responsibility to be had with this year's budget, we should get a tax lowering next year. 307 00:27:04,130 --> 00:27:06,430 with regard to 308 00:27:09,950 --> 00:27:16,750 annual budget. Again, when we look at it, I said earlier today at the special meeting. 309 00:27:17,090 --> 00:27:19,130 This is for the benefit of those who weren't here. 310 00:27:19,910 --> 00:27:23,550 We spent $28,000 on the search for a new city manager, Wagi. 311 00:27:24,250 --> 00:27:28,910 We have an HR director, an HR department, and we have an entire communications department. 312 00:27:29,350 --> 00:27:34,410 Why are we paying to do what we have people already on staff to do? 313 00:27:34,410 --> 00:27:40,510 I keep hearing from this council for the last decade about how we love the staff. 314 00:27:40,670 --> 00:27:41,390 We trust the staff. 315 00:27:41,550 --> 00:27:46,230 We're doing really good stuff, but for some reason, the staff is not allowed to do their job. 316 00:27:46,550 --> 00:27:50,390 So we just keep throwing good money after bad on things that we don't need to do. 317 00:27:50,710 --> 00:27:54,950 Why don't we have our staff actually go out and look for key personnel? 318 00:27:55,530 --> 00:27:57,370 They would have a stake in the game. 319 00:27:58,070 --> 00:28:00,950 Not some foreign entity that's just happy to take our money. 320 00:28:00,950 --> 00:28:06,470 I said it's even bet 50-50 is whether you've got presented the best candidates or the worst candidates. 321 00:28:06,730 --> 00:28:07,350 I don't know. 322 00:28:08,170 --> 00:28:13,370 But I think if we had our staff, our city, our money, and we've already spent concentrating 323 00:28:13,370 --> 00:28:14,170 on that effort. 324 00:28:14,890 --> 00:28:17,310 In the end, we would have a better result. 325 00:28:19,490 --> 00:28:24,350 And when it comes to budget accountability, and we start asking for stuff, the data breach, 326 00:28:26,350 --> 00:28:28,450 boil water notices in this next year. 327 00:28:28,630 --> 00:28:29,550 If we don't get answers, 328 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,740 there is an election coming up and all of you are up against 329 00:28:35,740 --> 00:28:44,500 it. One way or the other. Consider your votes wisely tonight. This tax increase, this is 330 00:28:44,500 --> 00:28:50,700 untenable. This is probably the last straw for a lot of people. Take a look at the survey. 331 00:28:51,900 --> 00:28:53,980 If I can have just 30 seconds more. 332 00:28:56,140 --> 00:29:00,060 Thank you. I'll end with this. 333 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,880 There's city survey as opposed to what you folks are concentrating your efforts on. 334 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:06,900 I've said this before. 335 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,520 This is not to anybody specifically. 336 00:29:11,460 --> 00:29:15,140 The town that you preside over or think that you presider is not the one that many of us 337 00:29:15,140 --> 00:29:16,780 live in. 338 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,300 Take a look at the citizen survey. 339 00:29:18,580 --> 00:29:23,280 See what we care about, what we want accomplished, that there's not a disconnect once you get 340 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,920 on the other side of that strap there. 341 00:29:25,420 --> 00:29:26,280 You get to do your own thing. 342 00:29:26,420 --> 00:29:29,220 You're supposed to be representing us, listen to the people. 343 00:29:29,220 --> 00:29:32,660 This is our money. Listen to what our concerns are. 344 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:33,960 Thank you, sir. 345 00:29:35,930 --> 00:29:36,610 Fifty-sixth, sir. 346 00:29:39,700 --> 00:29:41,280 Dr. Sue Nisecroft. 347 00:29:49,170 --> 00:29:50,110 Good evening, ma'am. 348 00:29:52,940 --> 00:29:53,820 Good evening, Mayor. 349 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,320 Councilman and City Manager. 350 00:29:55,540 --> 00:29:59,440 I'm speaking specifically to the proposed five-year 351 00:29:59,440 --> 00:29:59,880 I can't sleep. 352 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:12,720 Improvement Program for fiscal year of 2027 through 2031. On page 32, project 925004 North Colleen Gross Resight remains 353 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:20,200 listed as a project approved in a prior year schedule and underway with a project to date budget 354 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:28,080 of $2,250,000. I have confirmed that no expenditures have been occurred against this project. 355 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:34,000 North Colleen has waited for approximately 15 years for a grocery store solution. 356 00:30:34,580 --> 00:30:39,280 So before this council adopts another five-year capital improvement program, I believe 357 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,120 residents deserve to understand what happens next. 358 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:48,980 What is the current implementation plan for Project 925004? 359 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:54,700 Is there currently a site perspective grocery operator development agreement, timeline or 360 00:30:54,700 --> 00:31:00,380 but active strategy is associated with this $250,000 project. 361 00:31:01,300 --> 00:31:08,500 I also want to draw a council's attention to project 92503 strategic land acquisition 362 00:31:08,500 --> 00:31:09,740 on page 70. 363 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:18,040 That project has $500,000 in project to date funding for strategic land acquisition with 364 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:33,160 T-I-R-Z number two is discretion, specifically a mention that RAN-Zer project, but it also provides for other land purchases within T-I-R-Z number two that would further economic development. 365 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:39,040 I understand that no expenditures have been incurred against that project either. 366 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:48,000 Therefore, my second question is, has the city evaluated whether these projects can strategically work together? 367 00:31:48,660 --> 00:32:06,900 Project 9292503 for eligible eligible land acquisition and project 92504 for the North Colleen Girls Recyte objective to finally move with longstanding priority towards implementation. 368 00:32:06,900 --> 00:32:12,000 And if they cannot be used together, I would like to understand what restrictions prevent 369 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,440 these that coordination. 370 00:32:14,220 --> 00:32:17,020 This is not a request to create a new priority. 371 00:32:17,740 --> 00:32:22,640 The North Colleen Grocery Store Project is already in the Capital Improvement Program. 372 00:32:23,060 --> 00:32:25,440 The funding is already accounted for. 373 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:31,880 The question is, what is the city's plan to turn an existing capital project into an operating 374 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,960 grocery store for North Colleen? 375 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,880 Thank you and the 494. Thank you for listening. 376 00:32:38,340 --> 00:32:40,140 Thank you, ma'am. 377 00:32:40,140 --> 00:32:41,060 Madam City Secretary. 378 00:32:43,820 --> 00:32:45,820 Next speaker is Christian Bishop. 379 00:32:57,380 --> 00:32:58,080 Good evening, sir. 380 00:32:58,760 --> 00:32:59,100 Good evening. 381 00:33:00,940 --> 00:33:01,560 I'm here. 382 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,120 I'm here to speak about DS26-0079. 383 00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:10,400 City Council retreat and team building workshop. 384 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,340 While we'll not be in the chambers after citizens' comments, 385 00:33:13,580 --> 00:33:15,040 my questions are not rhetorical. 386 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,360 I'm not in favor of the agenda item for the following reasons. 387 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,960 My first question is, where is the funding for this coming from? 388 00:33:24,180 --> 00:33:27,160 I think it's rational for the public to assume this comes from tax revenue. 389 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,460 If it's not, where is it coming from? 390 00:33:30,740 --> 00:33:34,100 Assuming this comes from tax revenue, I think it's reasonable to request 391 00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:36,640 if not require transparency and public spending. 392 00:33:37,660 --> 00:33:40,080 What is the budget and itinerary for this trip? 393 00:33:40,540 --> 00:33:43,680 We'll receipts for this trip, be made public and easily accessible. 394 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:49,100 If there are excess funds after the trip is completed, how will they be allocated, 395 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:52,720 assuming alternate funding? 396 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:59,580 I also think it's reasonable for taxpayers to know who else has financial equity or influence on the sitting administration. 397 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:05,020 What entity, group, her institution, et cetera, is funding this trip. 398 00:34:06,140 --> 00:34:10,380 What does what does said entity get out of the transaction? 399 00:34:11,580 --> 00:34:13,760 What is the itinerary for this trip? 400 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:21,720 What purpose does this retreat serve, the agenda mentions team building, but I feel this would be better served in clean, 401 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:29,400 where the city administration can aim, inject some money back into the local economy, be engaged with local perspectives, 402 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:38,980 and see promote some more trust in clean government. To conclude, I think that the timing and perception around this retreat is poorly thought out. 403 00:34:39,780 --> 00:34:46,260 In the most charitable case, I see an ill advised attempt to regroup and in the least charitable case. 404 00:34:46,580 --> 00:34:53,980 I see an administration that knows most of them won't be returning next year and figured they might as well give themselves a vacation on the way out. 405 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,960 I am personally frustrated that a couple weeks ago we were discussing shutting down the only homeless shelter. 406 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:07,060 And today, we're talking about sending the city sitting council on a retreat. 407 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,200 I yield my time. 408 00:35:10,540 --> 00:35:13,240 Thank you, sir. Madam City Secretary. 409 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,980 Next speaker is Jamie Carroll. 410 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:29,740 Good evening. 411 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:36,880 I'm going to actually speak in favor of what he spoke out against, except instead of going away on a retreat. 412 00:35:37,540 --> 00:35:41,720 What I'd like to see, as I'd like to see you guys get together in one of our city parks, 413 00:35:41,720 --> 00:35:48,940 Live streaming. I want to see sack races. I want to see I'm not kidding. The egg in the spoon some truss falls 414 00:35:48,940 --> 00:35:51,640 It's not gonna cost the citizens it ain't extra money and 415 00:35:52,740 --> 00:35:56,380 That's also additional community engagement. You guys want to be better team members 416 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,160 be a team with the city because you guys aren't just 417 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:06,780 This special group that is you guys versus us. It's all of us. You're representing all of us 418 00:36:06,780 --> 00:36:10,160 So let's do some, what is it, the three-legged race? 419 00:36:10,780 --> 00:36:12,760 I'd love to see some of the people on this side, 420 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,720 do some of the race with some people on this side. 421 00:36:15,100 --> 00:36:15,960 I think it would be funny. 422 00:36:16,660 --> 00:36:20,240 And also, I mean, we're in here every week talking 423 00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:21,880 about super serious stuff. 424 00:36:22,020 --> 00:36:23,600 None of us are agreeing on anything. 425 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:29,520 So why don't you get out and do some real cheap 426 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,080 on the fly team building? 427 00:36:31,620 --> 00:36:32,940 It's our classics, right? 428 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,440 It's our classics as America. 429 00:36:34,860 --> 00:36:36,220 We've all done these goofy things. 430 00:36:36,220 --> 00:36:38,140 And they're not going to cost in anything. 431 00:36:38,540 --> 00:36:41,020 You don't need to leave the city to build a better team. 432 00:36:41,140 --> 00:36:47,780 You can do it right here, set it on the calendar, pop it on the live stream, and let it rip. 433 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,900 You know, we've already been in here 10 plus times talking about the budget. 434 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:57,020 So I'm not going to hound you on the budget and what we've wasted any more than that. 435 00:36:57,340 --> 00:37:02,480 But, you know, if you are going to go forward with this, let's keep it cheap, let's keep it local. 436 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:11,460 And let's let the lid off of it a little bit so that we can all kind of enjoy it and maybe actually have some lives and get on the same ground with one another. 437 00:37:11,860 --> 00:37:12,720 Thank you. 438 00:37:12,780 --> 00:37:13,660 Thank you, ma'am. 439 00:37:13,660 --> 00:37:14,880 Thank you. 440 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:15,900 Madam City Secretary. 441 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,480 Next speaker is Leo Gucason. 442 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:24,840 Leo Gucason. 443 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:26,460 I apologize. 444 00:37:31,670 --> 00:37:32,570 Good evening, sir. 445 00:37:33,990 --> 00:37:35,630 Good evening, Mr. Mayor. 446 00:37:35,630 --> 00:37:44,950 at a mayor-protein council members city manager first I'd say that this would be my last 447 00:37:44,950 --> 00:37:51,110 time here for a while since football season started I'd be busy on Tuesday, Thursdays, 448 00:37:51,170 --> 00:37:58,150 Friday, Saturdays and Sundays but I just wanted to come up today to talk about a quote 449 00:37:58,150 --> 00:38:01,810 As I always do, starts off with nuts. 450 00:38:03,410 --> 00:38:08,150 It was a reply from the Acting Department, 451 00:38:08,610 --> 00:38:10,610 the Division Commander 101st Airborne Division 452 00:38:10,610 --> 00:38:13,610 on December 22nd, 1944 at best 453 00:38:13,610 --> 00:38:15,030 going during the Battle of the Bulge, 454 00:38:15,350 --> 00:38:17,330 to the German Commander who demanded their 455 00:38:17,330 --> 00:38:19,090 unconditional surrender. 456 00:38:20,310 --> 00:38:22,090 I'm here to talk about the retreat. 457 00:38:24,660 --> 00:38:27,610 I concur with the last two speakers 458 00:38:27,610 --> 00:38:28,130 who said, 459 00:38:30,750 --> 00:38:36,710 but taking it at face value, I think it's a bad time to be talking about going 460 00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:44,190 away, holding hands and singing, Kumbaya. For the last few months now, 4 or 5, 6, whatever 461 00:38:44,190 --> 00:38:51,770 it has been. This body is stated that we are short on funds. And all of a sudden, when 462 00:38:51,770 --> 00:38:55,970 we're about to, when you are about to vote on the tax rate, which will be increased, 463 00:38:55,970 --> 00:39:00,050 just right below, as another resident said, 464 00:39:00,310 --> 00:39:02,410 but the other voter approval rate. 465 00:39:04,590 --> 00:39:05,050 Here you are. 466 00:39:05,130 --> 00:39:07,170 I'm going to talk about one discuss of retreat 467 00:39:07,950 --> 00:39:11,990 and I work group session thing that could be done 468 00:39:11,990 --> 00:39:14,050 as his second person said. 469 00:39:14,170 --> 00:39:16,650 Here in Colleen, very cheap. 470 00:39:17,570 --> 00:39:20,070 Fun, people come out and watch you and have fun, whatever. 471 00:39:21,010 --> 00:39:24,030 But to be coming up now speaking of going out of town, 472 00:39:24,030 --> 00:39:32,490 possibly going downtown, excuse me, and spending an extra excess amount of excess funds on 473 00:39:32,490 --> 00:39:40,790 something that is not needed. In the time that we're struggling to keep our streets up. Yes, 474 00:39:40,790 --> 00:39:44,310 we have a plan for that I understand that, but there are a lot of potholes out there in clean, 475 00:39:44,450 --> 00:39:51,190 I don't know if you all wrote over or not, but I have, you know, we need more firefighters, more police, 476 00:39:51,190 --> 00:39:59,970 more EMT people that we could be using that money for instead of going out on a session. 477 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:08,940 The whole hands and seeing cum by yye. This county, I'm sorry, this body did that once before I think it was Mr. 478 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:25,620 Cosper was a mayor, or I think it was Cosper was a mayor. And there was a lot of flag brought on to that about that. I don't know if you're familiar with it. I think Mr. Cosper was a mayor about expanding money on things that should not have been spent on. 479 00:40:25,620 --> 00:40:31,260 Not to say that if you do go do this, that you will do that, but that was the last one that came out. 480 00:40:31,820 --> 00:40:39,780 Everything, if there was anything good about it, it was buried because of that particular scandal about spending money on stuff that wasn't. 481 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:45,240 I think if you do think your time is up, I have one moment, I'll be closing up. Yes sir, you can. 482 00:40:46,180 --> 00:40:54,900 If you do decide to do it, I, the second person that addressed this issue, doing it here in clean would be cheaper, would be beneficial for the city. 483 00:40:54,900 --> 00:41:03,160 because you can go out and buy lunch at a local restaurant or whatever, but I'm going out of town for it. 484 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:09,840 I don't think that is very wise now because you're possibly going to raise the taxes on people. 485 00:41:11,060 --> 00:41:12,820 And every penny nowadays counts. 486 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,060 If you've got people talking about better on a fixed budget, 487 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,200 in the long run, it might not seem a lot of a couple pennies, but for them it does. 488 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:22,180 Thank you for your time. 489 00:41:22,620 --> 00:41:23,440 Thank you, sir. 490 00:41:24,780 --> 00:41:26,960 City men, City Secretary. 491 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,560 Your number speakers are on her. 492 00:41:34,940 --> 00:41:36,220 I'm sorry, one more. 493 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:37,480 Anca Nega. 494 00:41:39,530 --> 00:41:40,590 That's your gem dot. 495 00:41:41,950 --> 00:41:43,250 Good evening, ma'am. 496 00:41:44,290 --> 00:41:45,310 You're good. 497 00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:46,990 Thank you, Council Mayor. 498 00:41:47,850 --> 00:41:50,090 I want to speak on the CIP budget, 499 00:41:50,430 --> 00:41:53,970 regarding animal adoption center remodels. 500 00:41:54,770 --> 00:41:58,250 So, the Council is being asked. 501 00:41:58,350 --> 00:42:00,370 Well, first of all, thank you this Council 502 00:42:00,370 --> 00:42:07,430 for having a special meeting discussing that particular item. That was very important and 503 00:42:07,430 --> 00:42:11,990 gave us a lot of information. So thank you for that. You're being asked to spend $1.7 504 00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:19,950 million to remodel this building because, quote, the building was not prepared for heavy water, 505 00:42:20,210 --> 00:42:26,050 use and interior layout was not configured for safe and efficient animals housing, potentially 506 00:42:26,050 --> 00:42:34,050 posing health risks to staff and animals. Let's see what the City Council was stolen in 507 00:42:34,050 --> 00:42:40,050 2023. One the City Council was asked to approve 1.7 million dollars to buy this building. 508 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:50,270 That this is the presentation from 2023. The facility offers improved canals, 509 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:58,020 enhanced amenities, and accommodations that would enhance our customer service. 510 00:42:58,020 --> 00:43:01,520 Well, directly contradicts what you're being told today. 511 00:43:04,420 --> 00:43:09,740 They wanted to convince you to spend $1.7 million, so they made everything sound great. 512 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:15,160 They also, at that meeting, they failed to inform the council that there was a conflict 513 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:16,040 of interest. 514 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,980 It is concerning to me that it's so easy for some staff to lie to see the council. 515 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:28,240 Maybe now that we have a formal police chief on the council, maybe it's less likely for 516 00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:36,260 the city council to be lied to, that building is in a bad location, which means that even 517 00:43:36,260 --> 00:43:41,980 if you spend what, that's a terrible idea, but even if you spend $1.7 million, you're 518 00:43:41,980 --> 00:43:48,120 still not going to have a proper building as an animal shelter because there's no room to 519 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:55,120 build proper dog kennels. And they knew that in 2023, but there was a conflict of interest. 520 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,720 and unfortunately, we're here. 521 00:43:59,340 --> 00:44:01,060 As far as a tax rate is concerned, 522 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,840 I do not agree with raising the tax rate. 523 00:44:04,860 --> 00:44:06,200 There are no revenue taxes, 524 00:44:06,740 --> 00:44:10,200 what I want citizens should not be forced to pay 525 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:15,180 for mistakes that were made by staff or council, 526 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,340 like the purchase of that building, 527 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:18,480 there was not adequate. 528 00:44:19,460 --> 00:44:21,180 And these are my comments, thank you. 529 00:44:21,180 --> 00:44:29,120 Thank you, ma'am. I want to say Madam City Secretary. That's the last one. That was the last one. 530 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:34,440 Thank you. Let me just say this and I'll see Council Member Brown and Council Member Natchee. 531 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:43,520 This is for in reference to the retreat team building. 532 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:54,480 It's not planned to be nowhere out of town, out of state, it's right here, it's proposed 533 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:59,960 to be right here, so I don't know where everybody's getting it out of town, but it's... 534 00:45:00,270 --> 00:45:07,430 No, not a town. The proposal was not out of town. I agree with you. It should be right here. 535 00:45:08,210 --> 00:45:16,750 And if the council decides, it will be right here. And so, at minimum cost, and you'll hear more about that. 536 00:45:16,750 --> 00:45:25,910 But I just wanted to give you a spoiler that it's not out of town. We're not catching any planes. We're not flying off to Hawaii somewhere for retreat. 537 00:45:30,030 --> 00:45:30,550 I'm 538 00:45:36,730 --> 00:45:44,170 trying to decide if I want to do this now or when the budget comes up but I want to reiterate under that CIP. 539 00:45:44,470 --> 00:45:53,130 You'll see some items there that we do not have future funding for but we have spent money on and that's why they're there. 540 00:45:53,130 --> 00:46:04,330 So for example, the grocery store, the city has spent money on the grocery store, both on studies and on primarily on studies. 541 00:46:06,630 --> 00:46:13,510 You see that there because we are still required to list prior year spending up to a couple years back. 542 00:46:13,870 --> 00:46:16,790 That is one of the requirements that we have. 543 00:46:18,610 --> 00:46:25,370 The city isn't putting money into that fund for becoming here because this council just unanimously 544 00:46:25,370 --> 00:46:32,290 told KDC that that is one of their top priorities and we're putting money into KDC and so 545 00:46:32,290 --> 00:46:36,890 we're not going to duplicate efforts and we're not going to double the money that we're spending 546 00:46:36,890 --> 00:46:38,990 for a particular project. 547 00:46:42,250 --> 00:46:44,990 Thank you, Mayor and Council. 548 00:46:45,650 --> 00:46:51,350 When it comes to the budget, I'm not sure how far staff will go into the budget, but 60% 549 00:46:51,350 --> 00:46:55,430 And it could be more, but the last time I checked 60% of our budget. 550 00:46:56,150 --> 00:46:59,170 One budget, 60% go to our first responders. 551 00:46:59,930 --> 00:47:02,830 60% taken out of the consideration. 552 00:47:03,150 --> 00:47:10,630 We have other departments are just as important and valued by this council and by our city 553 00:47:10,630 --> 00:47:11,150 managers. 554 00:47:11,990 --> 00:47:18,370 So, when they decide on the budget, every director, the police fire, chief, police chief, 555 00:47:18,370 --> 00:47:23,470 every director meets with the city manager and they go through this list and they decide what 556 00:47:23,470 --> 00:47:25,070 is their top priority. 557 00:47:26,070 --> 00:47:31,690 So if you see things that were not in the budget, you could believe that the police chief 558 00:47:31,690 --> 00:47:38,890 fire chief and every director had a executive director had to say in what they wanted and what 559 00:47:38,890 --> 00:47:39,810 they did not want. 560 00:47:40,230 --> 00:47:46,790 But we also have a response to ability with taxpayer dollars to take your student infrastructure, 561 00:47:46,790 --> 00:47:51,650 to take care of our airport, take care of our waste management, and most important, take care 562 00:47:51,650 --> 00:47:58,410 of all of our employees through benefits, through their salaries so they can be competitive 563 00:47:58,410 --> 00:48:03,350 and we can keep down and not constantly have to retrying and then hire new people. 564 00:48:03,930 --> 00:48:10,690 So the budget is bound to set the best of our ability, our input, but what's important 565 00:48:10,690 --> 00:48:17,090 that the police fired each chief in the executive directors have the say and what they want to see in their budget. 566 00:48:17,730 --> 00:48:18,330 Thank you. 567 00:48:19,210 --> 00:48:20,310 Councilmember Kimball. 568 00:48:22,500 --> 00:48:23,160 Thank you Mr. Mayor. 569 00:48:23,500 --> 00:48:26,680 There's been a lot of talk about the retreat. 570 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,160 So, item that, 571 00:48:33,660 --> 00:48:39,920 I guess, when we, or, when we guess when the agenda is made, and when 572 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,800 you approve the agenda, you have gotten some input from council members. 573 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:52,260 I, again, it has been, it's been put on each end of, I don't think a whole lot of this, 574 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:58,420 I think it's been put on a agenda with discussion to be had, but I just want to, the citizens 575 00:48:58,420 --> 00:49:00,540 know that 576 00:49:03,010 --> 00:49:11,870 I agree with them that it looks bad, and the timing is not the most ideal, and I don't, 577 00:49:11,870 --> 00:49:15,990 I don't even know what the plans are, I'm waiting to hear what they are, but I think, 578 00:49:15,990 --> 00:49:24,310 That as people as members can put stuff on the agenda and then we as council members can decline it. If so, but that's all I have to say. 579 00:49:31,220 --> 00:49:32,580 The other discussion. Everybody. 580 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:33,840 Okay. Great. 581 00:49:35,460 --> 00:49:35,740 Okay. 582 00:49:38,110 --> 00:49:45,650 We will now go into our regular session in the madam's secretary consent agenda, please. 583 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:54,480 Item number two. 584 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:59,960 mn-26-024 consider minutes of special city council. 585 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:23,960 Council meeting of June 16th, 2026. Item 3, mn-26-025, consider minutes of city council special meeting of June 22nd, 2026. Item 4, mn-26-026, consider special open house, meeting minutes from June 23rd, 2026. 586 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:35,060 Item 5, RS-26-130, Consider Resolution, Entering a Memorandum of Agreement with Fort Hood, 587 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:40,960 Garrison, Command to provide mutual aid for police services and information sharing. 588 00:50:41,860 --> 00:50:49,760 Item 6, RS-26-131, Consider a Memorandum Resolution, Authorizing the Rejection, 589 00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:59,360 of all received submissions for bid number 27-022, FY27, Annual Street Construction Materials. 590 00:51:01,490 --> 00:51:05,830 Council, I would take a motion on the consent agenda items. Council Member Naskin? 591 00:51:06,410 --> 00:51:10,310 Mr. Mayor Council, I'm moved to approve the consent agenda items. 592 00:51:10,790 --> 00:51:15,090 Motion by Council Member Naskin. Second, Council Member Brown. 593 00:51:15,510 --> 00:51:19,650 Second. Second by Council Member Brown, you need a discussion? 594 00:51:19,650 --> 00:51:26,850 I want to question all in favour of seeing a five by yes all opposed no 595 00:51:31,720 --> 00:51:32,720 motion carries 596 00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:41,310 seven is zero thank you council now we will go into our regular session and resolution 597 00:51:41,310 --> 00:51:44,250 for individual consideration madam secretary 598 00:51:50,810 --> 00:51:55,230 resolutions item number seven R s dash to 599 00:51:55,230 --> 00:52:02,530 six dash one three two consider a memorandum resolution appointing commissioners to the 600 00:52:02,530 --> 00:52:02,970 27. 601 00:52:09,730 --> 00:52:09,850 Council. 602 00:52:10,250 --> 00:52:14,050 Mr. Roberts review this, which I would like for her to go over again. 603 00:52:16,630 --> 00:52:16,670 Okay. 604 00:52:16,770 --> 00:52:17,790 Did I take a motion? 605 00:52:18,710 --> 00:52:19,890 Council member Brown. 606 00:52:21,090 --> 00:52:26,170 With great congratulations to all of our new and returning commissioners. 607 00:52:26,210 --> 00:52:31,550 I move to approve RS-26-132. 608 00:52:32,010 --> 00:52:32,430 Okay. 609 00:52:32,910 --> 00:52:33,590 By zero second? 610 00:52:34,170 --> 00:52:34,930 Council member Kimble? 611 00:52:35,790 --> 00:52:36,430 I happenly. 612 00:52:36,470 --> 00:52:37,330 Happily second. 613 00:52:37,330 --> 00:52:40,450 Okay, is there any discussion? 614 00:52:42,510 --> 00:52:49,870 I'm just going to share your hand, I'm sorry, I'm having trouble here, Councilmember Bess. 615 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:59,800 I just want to say how much I enjoyed sitting on that selection committee. 616 00:53:01,020 --> 00:53:05,720 These young people are the best of the best of clean, and they're going to do a great job. 617 00:53:06,020 --> 00:53:06,740 Thank you. 618 00:53:10,110 --> 00:53:15,830 Councilmember Brown, Councilmember Kimball, Councilmember Williams, okay. 619 00:53:15,830 --> 00:53:23,990 All right. My apologies. Okay. If there's no other discussion, we'll take it to the boat. 620 00:53:24,610 --> 00:53:28,770 I'll only be able to signify by saying yes. All opposed no. 621 00:53:38,290 --> 00:53:39,170 Did everyone vote? 622 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:48,920 I'd like to recommend to show that council member Nash King. It's not here. The motion pass. 623 00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:48,920 to 624 00:53:51,100 --> 00:53:51,960 0. 625 00:53:54,940 --> 00:53:55,940 Okay, Madam City Secretary. 626 00:54:02,020 --> 00:54:07,760 Item 8, RS-26-133, consider a memorandum resolution 627 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:12,700 approving an amendment to the professional services agreement with the Schluter Group for 628 00:54:12,700 --> 00:54:14,420 state legislative representation. 629 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,920 Council City Secretary has did a presentation, which I 630 00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:27,820 would like to do it again. Okay, I would take a motion. Mayor Pope Tim. I make a motion 631 00:54:27,820 --> 00:54:34,360 to approve RS-26-133 Councilman Mowkindrix for a second. 632 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:35,400 Any discussion? 633 00:54:39,100 --> 00:54:40,100 I'm seeing names. 634 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,620 Councilmember Kimball. 635 00:54:44,550 --> 00:54:45,130 Thank you Mr. May. 636 00:54:45,130 --> 00:54:47,950 I'll be I will be voting for this. 637 00:54:48,270 --> 00:54:51,370 But I do say that I will say this for the record. 638 00:54:51,610 --> 00:54:53,630 I appreciate what the student group has done. 639 00:54:54,150 --> 00:54:58,470 I believe that we should pay people what they're worth. 640 00:54:59,230 --> 00:54:59,890 And there's services. 641 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:06,660 Our $100,000 dollars. They voluntarily dropped that price. I appreciate that. I want to say a foot of record, but I also 642 00:55:06,660 --> 00:55:13,300 say that we should pay people for and pay for our services when to the city. I want to, again, thank 643 00:55:13,300 --> 00:55:18,480 them, but we should be paying for what their worth for the services that they do for the city. Thank 644 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:25,140 you, Mr. Mayor. Any other discussion? All in favour, signify by saying yes, all opposed? 645 00:55:25,140 --> 00:55:25,280 No, 646 00:55:33,930 --> 00:55:35,010 everyone vote. 647 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:48,500 Okay. Motion pass of six through zero. Okay. Madam City Secretary. 648 00:55:53,630 --> 00:56:02,330 Item number nine. O-R-2-6-015. Consider a city initiated ordinance. Case number 649 00:56:02,330 --> 00:56:10,570 Z-2-6-1-1 to reason approximately 0.16 of an acre, being part of lots one and five, 650 00:56:10,570 --> 00:56:18,150 block six north side addition from B3 local business district to R1, single family residential 651 00:56:18,150 --> 00:56:25,830 district. The subject property is locally addressed as 312 East Texas Avenue, 652 00:56:25,990 --> 00:56:32,870 Colleen Texas. The ordinance caption reads, and ordinance amending the city of 653 00:56:32,870 --> 00:56:38,830 Colleen's zoning ordinance by changing the zoning of approximately 0.16 of an acre 654 00:56:38,830 --> 00:56:54,870 being part of lots one in five blocks six north side edition from B3 local business district to R1 single family residential district providing a savings clause providing for the repeal of conflicting provisions and providing for an effective date. 655 00:56:56,470 --> 00:57:01,850 Okay, Council, Ms. Messier has reviewed this presentation, would you like for her to go over 656 00:57:01,850 --> 00:57:08,550 it again? If not, I will entertain a motion. Council member Williams. 657 00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:11,780 Okay, Council member 658 00:57:11,780 --> 00:57:12,380 Kimball. 659 00:57:15,930 --> 00:57:18,670 Okay, Council member Brown. 660 00:57:21,010 --> 00:57:27,510 Move to approve or dash 26-015. Okay, there's a second 661 00:57:27,510 --> 00:57:33,910 Mayor Pope Tim. A second. Okay, is there any discussion? There is no discussion or 662 00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:41,020 in favour of signify by yes. All opposed and no. 663 00:57:52,110 --> 00:57:53,390 And be one but it. 664 00:57:56,180 --> 00:58:01,520 Okay, motion pass six is it roll. Madam Secretary, excited. Police. 665 00:58:08,420 --> 00:58:10,460 Public hearing. Item number 10. 666 00:58:10,460 --> 00:58:18,360 P-h-2-6-0-2-7. Consider a city initiated ordinance case number 667 00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:26,500 Z-2-6-1-2 to rezone approximately 0.144 of an anchor out of the H-O-Neal Survey. 668 00:58:27,180 --> 00:58:32,720 Abstract 645 from B-3 local business district to R-2 to family residential 669 00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,220 district and law 1, block 1, 670 00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:37,960 mold for addition from B3, 671 00:58:38,700 --> 00:58:40,620 local business district are one single 672 00:58:40,620 --> 00:58:42,000 family residential district. 673 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:44,560 The subject properties are locally addressed 674 00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,280 as 1401 and 1411, 675 00:58:47,940 --> 00:58:48,660 mold for street, 676 00:58:48,660 --> 00:58:51,760 clean Texas and the ordinance caption reads 677 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:52,900 an ordinance, 678 00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:54,540 amending the city of 679 00:58:54,540 --> 00:58:55,960 clean, zoning ordinance 680 00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:57,580 by changing the zoning of 681 00:58:57,580 --> 00:59:00,600 approximately 0.144 of an anchor 682 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,240 out of H. O'Neill survey, 683 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:09,900 Abstract 645 from B3 local business district to R2, two family residential district and 684 00:59:09,900 --> 00:59:16,220 lot one block one mall for addition from B3 local business district to R1 single family 685 00:59:16,220 --> 00:59:21,500 residential district, providing savings clause, providing for the repeal of conflicting 686 00:59:21,500 --> 00:59:24,060 provisions and providing an effective date. 687 00:59:25,890 --> 00:59:29,010 Council Ms. Monsieur has went over this, would you want her to go over it again? 688 00:59:29,010 --> 00:59:31,970 If not, I would entertain a motion. 689 00:59:34,790 --> 00:59:36,070 Council member Grown. 690 00:59:37,410 --> 00:59:40,670 I just need to verify something real quick with the attorney, please. 691 00:59:41,030 --> 00:59:42,450 This one for real this time. 692 00:59:43,810 --> 00:59:48,310 A motion to approve as presented with approve 1411 and disapproved 693 00:59:48,310 --> 00:59:49,930 1401 correct. 694 00:59:51,130 --> 00:59:52,950 As presented, that's correct. 695 00:59:53,650 --> 00:59:57,610 You may want to be clear since there was a presentation included initially 696 00:59:57,610 --> 00:59:59,970 that change from the presentation, so on this one. 697 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,580 I would actually recommend to be clear as presented to approve 1411 and disapproved 414. 698 01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:09,860 Okay. And it would still be proper to make that as a single motion since it's a single item. Yes. 699 01:00:10,580 --> 01:00:25,100 Okay. With that, I move to approve the zoning request for 1411, moleford street and disapproved the zoning for 1411, moleford street. 700 01:00:26,570 --> 01:00:31,710 Okay, the motion's been made there a second Council member Williams. 701 01:00:31,710 --> 01:00:32,630 Yes, sir. 702 01:00:32,630 --> 01:00:33,910 I second that motion. 703 01:00:36,430 --> 01:00:37,050 And your discussion. 704 01:00:38,310 --> 01:00:39,830 Council member Kimball. 705 01:00:40,710 --> 01:00:40,850 Yeah. 706 01:00:41,190 --> 01:00:41,770 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 707 01:00:42,950 --> 01:00:44,990 I say my piece on this. 708 01:00:44,990 --> 01:00:47,750 I don't know how long we know we're trying to move forward. 709 01:00:48,070 --> 01:00:49,530 There are enduring feel. 710 01:00:49,530 --> 01:00:51,590 I don't know how long we wait for the owner. 711 01:00:51,830 --> 01:00:55,610 I will be voting with the council on this, but I just hope staff can come up with a plan 712 01:00:55,610 --> 01:00:57,050 if the owner never responds. 713 01:00:57,730 --> 01:00:59,490 That's just my concern. 714 01:00:59,850 --> 01:01:00,490 Thank you. 715 01:01:02,810 --> 01:01:03,530 Any further discussion? 716 01:01:04,130 --> 01:01:05,070 Just no further discussion? 717 01:01:05,250 --> 01:01:08,450 All in favor of signify by saying, yes, I'll oppose no. 718 01:01:16,420 --> 01:01:16,460 Okay. 719 01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:18,740 Emotion passed six to zero. 720 01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:21,560 Thank you, council. 721 01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:25,860 Okay. 722 01:01:27,580 --> 01:01:27,740 Item. 723 01:01:28,340 --> 01:01:37,480 Item 11, pH-26-028, hold a public hearing and consider an ordinance, amending the code of ordinances 724 01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:44,100 Chapter 24, Solid Waste Collection and Disposal Services, the Ordnance Caption Reads, and 725 01:01:44,100 --> 01:01:49,120 Ordnance, a Mending Chapter 24, Solid Waste, at the Code of Court ordinances of the 726 01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:55,420 City of Killing, Texas by establishing a fee for curbside, brush, collection services, and 727 01:01:55,420 --> 01:02:00,460 adopting disposal regulations for non-collectable items placed at curbside. 728 01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:05,400 Providing for the repeal of conflicting provisions, providing for a severability clause, 729 01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,140 providing a savings clause and providing 730 01:02:08,140 --> 01:02:10,400 for publication and an effective date. 731 01:02:12,220 --> 01:02:14,060 Okay, good evening, sir, Mr. Dudley. 732 01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,760 Are you doing Council Mayor, City Manager? 733 01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:21,100 The item I have for you today is 734 01:02:21,100 --> 01:02:22,360 the Solid Waste Ordnance Amendment. 735 01:02:24,710 --> 01:02:27,030 Live at a background in FY26 736 01:02:27,030 --> 01:02:29,370 that was a new fees added to the fee schedule 737 01:02:29,370 --> 01:02:32,150 to assist with offsetting the cost of disposal 738 01:02:32,150 --> 01:02:34,530 and transportation of these items. 739 01:02:34,530 --> 01:02:39,650 We have a addition of Section 24-32 non-collection material, 740 01:02:40,930 --> 01:02:43,730 addition of Section 24-50 brush collection, 741 01:02:44,510 --> 01:02:48,530 and amendment of Section 24-16 commercial rates, 742 01:02:48,890 --> 01:02:50,210 a dating code of ordinance. 743 01:02:51,030 --> 01:02:53,330 Chapter 24, Solid Waste Collation Services, 744 01:02:53,870 --> 01:02:57,070 is necessary to provide details of these additional fees, 745 01:02:57,490 --> 01:03:00,950 as well as make, as well as making various grammatical edits 746 01:03:00,950 --> 01:03:04,170 throughout the ordinance to ensure clarity and provide a document. 747 01:03:04,170 --> 01:03:06,990 for the citizens of Colleen that is third law and concise. 748 01:03:09,970 --> 01:03:13,750 Here we have a section 24-32 non-collection material. 749 01:03:13,990 --> 01:03:16,090 This is a solid waste why. 750 01:03:16,790 --> 01:03:19,130 It is to establish a cost recovery process 751 01:03:19,130 --> 01:03:21,570 for the removal of non-collectable materials 752 01:03:21,570 --> 01:03:24,790 placed at court, non-collectable materials 753 01:03:24,790 --> 01:03:27,790 or not part of the routine curbside collection, 754 01:03:28,530 --> 01:03:30,950 but may be accepted at the transfer station. 755 01:03:32,030 --> 01:03:34,210 Construction and demolition material, 756 01:03:34,210 --> 01:03:41,190 such as drywall, lumber, concrete, brick, tile, the all required disposal methods and equipment 757 01:03:41,190 --> 01:03:47,910 appropriate for those materials. And also, it provides a process for addressing a material that 758 01:03:47,910 --> 01:03:50,610 remains in the public right away after notice. 759 01:03:53,460 --> 01:03:55,600 There's a bit more background for 2432, 760 01:03:55,900 --> 01:04:02,680 that's 32 non-collection material. This is another waste process. We have a property on this wheel 761 01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:07,740 receive written notice, and afforded our opportunity to volunteer, remove the material at 762 01:04:07,740 --> 01:04:08,440 no charge. 763 01:04:09,060 --> 01:04:14,760 If the material is not removed within a lot of time, the city may remove it and assess an applicable 764 01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:16,880 fee. 765 01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:22,620 It's worth noting that non-collectable a curve side does not mean non-acceptable at the transfer 766 01:04:22,620 --> 01:04:23,260 station. 767 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:30,540 There will be more background here for a section 24 dash 50 to brush collection. 768 01:04:30,540 --> 01:04:36,280 It's to establish a user-based fee structure that aligns the cost of brush collection services 769 01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:38,820 with the customers utilizing the service. 770 01:04:39,180 --> 01:04:44,460 The proposed fee will recover a portion of the cost of providing brush collection and promote 771 01:04:44,460 --> 01:04:49,940 a more equitable distribution of expenses among customers and support the long-term sustainability 772 01:04:49,940 --> 01:04:52,880 of the city's residential brush collection program. 773 01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:59,380 Here we have a section 24-Dash 116. 774 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:12,500 Commercial rates, the proposed adjustment is intended to move the commercial roll off services towards cost recovery, while providing a phased increase that is more manageable for customers. 775 01:05:12,500 --> 01:05:21,460 The 25% for FY2027 increase reflects the rate studies direction to establish a more manageable 776 01:05:21,460 --> 01:05:22,760 initial adjustment. 777 01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:31,060 The 15% annual increase thereafter through FY2031 followed the phase rate path identified 778 01:05:31,060 --> 01:05:34,560 in the cost of the cost of a service study. 779 01:05:34,580 --> 01:05:40,840 This was approved by Council, following the public hearing held June 16, 2016. 780 01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:42,840 I mean, 2026, I'm sorry. 781 01:05:46,220 --> 01:05:49,800 Recommendation at Council approved the Ordnance Amendment in Chapter 24. 782 01:05:50,460 --> 01:05:53,980 Solid Waste of Code of Ordnance to clarify our residential and commercial services 783 01:05:53,980 --> 01:05:59,840 and establish costs, recovery provisions, and incorporate the adopted commercial rolloff rate 784 01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:00,400 adjustments. 785 01:06:00,740 --> 01:06:02,800 And I'm here to take any questions that you may have. 786 01:06:04,810 --> 01:06:05,090 Thank you, Council. 787 01:06:08,530 --> 01:06:10,010 You also remember Kimball? 788 01:06:13,060 --> 01:06:13,640 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 789 01:06:15,220 --> 01:06:16,180 So, thank you for the presentation. 790 01:06:16,180 --> 01:06:22,180 So what customers enjoy now versus if this ordinance is adopted 791 01:06:22,780 --> 01:06:26,900 For example, let's go to brush so right now you guys come by some might 792 01:06:27,460 --> 01:06:32,300 Cut the stuff down put the brush power in front of the house. You come by pick it up right now 793 01:06:32,300 --> 01:06:34,660 That's what no what happens 794 01:06:34,660 --> 01:06:40,440 We pick it up depends on the size. Yeah, it's been on the size. Yeah, yeah, if you're six cubic it right now if you're six cubic it 795 01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:42,660 Or less it's free 796 01:06:42,660 --> 01:06:46,760 If it's in your being in your opinion, there's a lot of the cities do that for free. 797 01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:53,440 Seller Sun City's they kind of incorporated in the rate. 798 01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:55,780 The resident's a rate from what I'm understanding. 799 01:06:55,940 --> 01:07:02,040 There's a call that it is is this is this put inside the rate for whatever that city rate may be. 800 01:07:02,420 --> 01:07:05,500 But it is a lot of cities that don't pick up brush exactly. 801 01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:12,000 They do have drop off points and do not drop off points, but they have to drop off a place for them to bring a brush. 802 01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:15,540 So when this ordinance in past, what does this look like when that same brush is out in front 803 01:07:15,540 --> 01:07:19,940 house, ordinance in past, what there's a, now there's a fee associated with, yes sir. 804 01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:25,640 So what happens is that we're going to come over there, do the service verification, and we're 805 01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:30,500 going to service the stop, we're going to assess the size of it, and then we go to charge 806 01:07:30,500 --> 01:07:30,900 accordingly. 807 01:07:31,580 --> 01:07:36,420 Do you, I know there's cameras on the trucks, is there some kind of photographic evidence or 808 01:07:36,420 --> 01:07:38,680 a size of service verification through our work? 809 01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:48,340 I'm just trying to make a plan for those that, because it's going to be for many, for a lot of, for many years, we've been to many cities that have enjoyed this service without payment. 810 01:07:48,860 --> 01:07:55,480 Now there's going to be a change of service and we might just have to do a little education to talk or wait through that. 811 01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:56,480 Yeah, that's part of the education. 812 01:07:56,600 --> 01:08:01,800 Absolutely. We have our team, we actually out there for the most part. 813 01:08:01,900 --> 01:08:04,720 We're going to be out there trying to explain things as we see people. 814 01:08:06,420 --> 01:08:11,120 And, and the city that I'm making people who say, hey, you're, city's charging and making money. 815 01:08:11,420 --> 01:08:18,540 We're just trying to get close to a hundred, but at least in my opinion, it looks like we're just trying to get to a close to a hundred percent cost recovery. 816 01:08:19,020 --> 01:08:25,380 Instead of losing money on this operation, we're just trying to get some back and it looks like you staggered that over. 817 01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:27,840 I don't think it's going to be a hundred percent. 818 01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:36,620 But you still over a amount of time trying to recover some of the cost that it cost it to do business to do this for the citizens to enjoy. 819 01:08:37,220 --> 01:08:40,920 So they don't have to actually go down to themselves and do it. 820 01:08:41,100 --> 01:08:41,920 Is that correct statement? 821 01:08:42,540 --> 01:08:43,640 Yes, that's correct. 822 01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:45,160 And again, 823 01:08:48,100 --> 01:08:50,500 I would be happy if we just hit a pick up the brush. 824 01:08:50,500 --> 01:08:54,120 and whatever would not, when I try to charge people, 825 01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:58,260 absorbent charges, I think this is a fair fee, 826 01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:02,460 and I think it will recover a portion of the cost 827 01:09:02,460 --> 01:09:04,600 which still helps overall. 828 01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:06,700 Because those costs, in turn, 829 01:09:06,860 --> 01:09:09,320 you still have to buy trucks and do maintenance 830 01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:12,480 and a pair equipment, all those things that go with that, 831 01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:14,640 and there's a cost associated with that. 832 01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,520 So I think I congratulate you and your staff 833 01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:25,080 for, you know, do this presentation, trying to explain to everyone that it may not be 834 01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:30,160 across a concert, and not just really free, but for many years we have, in citizens 835 01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:34,240 I've enjoyed the city picking it up without costs, and we're just trying to get something 836 01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:34,800 to call us back. 837 01:09:34,860 --> 01:09:35,680 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 838 01:09:36,060 --> 01:09:37,300 Thank you. 839 01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:38,660 Councilmember McKindex. 840 01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:41,240 Good afternoon, Mr. David. 841 01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:49,100 me Utah intensively about this here at Councilmember Kimber actually hit all of the points 842 01:09:49,100 --> 01:09:53,820 that mean you talked about when we talked about this so I'm not going to go over all 843 01:09:53,820 --> 01:09:59,960 of those points again but I will just like Councilmember Kimber's. 844 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:29,260 Senate to the citizens. For years, we've been able to get this service without charging. And now we're trying to get, like he said, as close to cost recovery as we can. We're now never going to get 100% because we're still below the earmark of any other city. We're still doing more than any other city, the size of Colleen. 845 01:10:29,260 --> 01:10:40,180 And we just want the citizens to know when citizens say we don't care, we do care because you're actually getting something a lot cheaper than those other cities. 846 01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:41,120 Is that correct? 847 01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:42,060 That's correct. 848 01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:50,260 Especially the service that we provide because we do provide additional services that other cities in municipalities don't. 849 01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:52,100 That's all I have Mr. Chairman. 850 01:10:52,140 --> 01:10:53,140 Councilmember Brown. 851 01:10:56,790 --> 01:10:57,450 Mr. Nothing. 852 01:10:57,770 --> 01:10:58,770 How you doing now? 853 01:10:59,270 --> 01:11:03,470 I don't know if you heard me. I have migraines to please bear with me. When did we get 854 01:11:03,470 --> 01:11:08,130 route wear on breast trucks? Because I was only aware we had them on the residential and 855 01:11:08,130 --> 01:11:16,190 some of the commercial trucks for routes like that. We've always had route wear on the 856 01:11:16,190 --> 01:11:23,150 breast trucks. Okay. All of them are equipped and operating that. Yes, all of them are equipped. 857 01:11:23,150 --> 01:11:28,210 We all get an extra cameras for the trucks preparing ourselves for October 1. 858 01:11:28,650 --> 01:11:32,410 Some of the trucks have one camera on them, but we want them to have two cameras on the side. 859 01:11:32,850 --> 01:11:39,410 But even if they don't, they do have the right where it's happens, where they can take them out and do a service verification when they actually take the picture at the stop. 860 01:11:40,270 --> 01:11:45,350 And you said currently up to six yards, cubic yards of brush can be collected. 861 01:11:45,710 --> 01:11:47,290 Yes ma'am, that'd be at $10. 862 01:11:48,670 --> 01:11:49,030 Currently? 863 01:11:49,310 --> 01:11:52,550 Yeah, well, currently no up to six cubic yards is free right now. 864 01:11:53,070 --> 01:11:55,550 How do we measure that six cubic yard? 865 01:11:58,370 --> 01:12:02,050 I don't have the dimensions right here front of me right now, but 866 01:12:02,050 --> 01:12:06,850 Well, we do measure no we do measure okay, because I just don't want to 867 01:12:06,850 --> 01:12:11,750 My concern is we start sending out the bills for this and then we start getting the complaints 868 01:12:11,750 --> 01:12:19,550 We how do you know that's how much we had and then can you remind me how much do we set if you go over six cubic yards because I didn't 869 01:12:19,550 --> 01:12:25,790 We're calling that number. Okay, you over six keyboards each addition key because one would be seven dollars and 50 cents 870 01:12:26,310 --> 01:12:29,050 When did we was that in the chart? 871 01:12:29,670 --> 01:12:40,920 Yes, ma'am. It was in the chart. Okay, seven and 50. Are we going to have a great period after our October one like hey, you know 872 01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:42,520 we picked up 873 01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:44,080 five and a half 874 01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:46,060 cubic yards of 875 01:12:46,060 --> 01:12:55,360 brush. And so you would have been paying as much. I don't understand a lot, of course you 876 01:12:55,360 --> 01:13:01,200 could be the thing. Well, because I believe that we're already behind the curveball to put it 877 01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:07,380 any notice out in September. We couldn't officially put notice of any feet increases until the 878 01:13:07,380 --> 01:13:13,960 council votes to approve them. So we don't have a way to put it in utility bills for the month of 879 01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:19,760 September. And then in October, you know, hey, we've started this, but by the time they get 880 01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:24,040 the notice, we're already charging them and it's already on their November bill. 881 01:13:24,420 --> 01:13:30,480 Understandable. And that's doable. We can be flexible of the city managers found that we can 882 01:13:30,480 --> 01:13:35,140 wait until November. That's the case. And that gives somebody 30 more days to get prepared for that. 883 01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:46,780 Sure, we can do that. Thank you. And then what's the difference between a roll-off 884 01:13:46,780 --> 01:13:50,800 container and the dumpsters that we see at businesses and apartment complexes? 885 01:13:52,820 --> 01:13:59,320 The dumpsters in the world, the difference between them is more sort of size and the 886 01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:04,120 ability to like the role loss of like for construction, demolition and type of things like 887 01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:09,900 that really heavy material, you big materials while the dumpsters is more suited for household 888 01:14:09,900 --> 01:14:13,620 trash, just like the 96 gallons that we put at a curve side. 889 01:14:13,620 --> 01:14:20,060 And where I'm going with that one is I don't want residents of apartment, so anything above. 890 01:14:21,540 --> 01:14:28,700 If I remember correctly when I was told at finance, anything above fourplex becomes a commercial 891 01:14:28,700 --> 01:14:29,180 account. 892 01:14:29,420 --> 01:14:34,600 So I don't want those individuals to feel like because they're in an apartment complex and there's 893 01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:39,120 a dumpster that solid wastery is going to go up and then they're paying more toward their rent bill. 894 01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:39,640 I 895 01:14:43,190 --> 01:14:45,950 don't know how to ask it a question to be honest with you right now. 896 01:14:47,010 --> 01:14:49,530 It rolls off so I'm not used in apartments. 897 01:14:49,890 --> 01:14:52,750 That is where I was really getting it. 898 01:14:52,770 --> 01:14:54,590 It's making sure that's why I asked what the difference. 899 01:14:55,090 --> 01:14:59,970 Because I want to make sure there's a difference between the roll off and the dump service you would have in it. 900 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,460 Department complex, or a business would be using, because I don't want to see our small businesses 901 01:15:04,460 --> 01:15:10,260 coming up and struggling more, because their utility bills are increasing, because of this fee increase. 902 01:15:10,980 --> 01:15:16,040 Okay. And just to add, the, the, the, the rolloffs are a lot, the large rectangular containers, 903 01:15:16,260 --> 01:15:23,100 it, the only, only one per truck. There's, there's so large. And that is actually the one area of 904 01:15:23,100 --> 01:15:29,780 garbage service that's competitive. There are private contractors that do this. And we are, by many 905 01:15:29,780 --> 01:15:34,200 factors far under the going rates of the province. In fact, we're so far 906 01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:40,240 around how they have any business. But it's mostly construction. And when we 907 01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:44,840 do the collections around town, sometimes those are the big rectangular boxes 908 01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:49,660 you see, those are the roll-offs. And I recall seeing them out at the transfer 909 01:15:49,660 --> 01:15:53,720 station with Mr. Dudley when we went out there to look. And I actually believe it 910 01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:58,480 or not one or two of our competitors were out there, but I appreciate it. Thank you. 911 01:15:58,480 --> 01:15:59,500 Thank you. 912 01:15:59,580 --> 01:16:00,740 Council member Williams. 913 01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:05,520 How are you doing? 914 01:16:05,540 --> 01:16:12,360 A lot of this you explained during our tour that we've had now appreciate that. 915 01:16:12,460 --> 01:16:17,940 And my question for you would be, does this ordinance provide reasonable accommodation 916 01:16:17,940 --> 01:16:24,020 for elderly, the disabled, otherwise vulnerable residents who may have difficulty complying 917 01:16:24,020 --> 01:16:25,580 with collections requirements? 918 01:16:26,620 --> 01:16:35,480 It depends on what, which one you're talking about, like, brush collection, I mean, if they put it 919 01:16:35,480 --> 01:16:40,400 out at the road, we're going to pick it up, it's not our, you know, we can't bring it to the 920 01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:45,040 road for them, and in that situation, but they can bring it to the road, we'll, again, 921 01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:49,700 we'll service them, like, we service everybody else, now when it comes to the non-collectable 922 01:16:49,700 --> 01:16:55,060 materials, that's the same thing, you know, if it's at the road, we'll take care of it, 923 01:16:55,060 --> 01:17:00,280 that I have no way of accommodating them to get it to the road other than just picking it up 924 01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:03,260 and servicing it when my trucks come through. 925 01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:05,520 Thank 926 01:17:08,330 --> 01:17:08,770 you. 927 01:17:08,770 --> 01:17:08,990 Okay. 928 01:17:09,270 --> 01:17:10,930 There's no other Mr. 929 01:17:13,050 --> 01:17:13,490 Mayor. 930 01:17:13,530 --> 01:17:14,030 Mr. Mayor. 931 01:17:14,830 --> 01:17:14,970 You know what? 932 01:17:15,290 --> 01:17:16,210 I just might add. 933 01:17:16,310 --> 01:17:17,070 Go ahead sir. 934 01:17:17,410 --> 01:17:18,070 Part of this. 935 01:17:18,210 --> 01:17:19,470 Part of the concept behind this. 936 01:17:19,630 --> 01:17:24,550 If you just have the regular residential container that you roll out of the street once a week 937 01:17:24,550 --> 01:17:26,130 and that's all you ever do. 938 01:17:27,230 --> 01:17:33,850 For many years you've been subsidizing all the people that put out lots of stuff at the curve and rather than raise the rate for everybody. 939 01:17:34,990 --> 01:17:38,670 We were trying to put the charge on the people actually creating the cost. 940 01:17:38,950 --> 01:17:40,550 That's sort of the concept behind this. 941 01:17:41,370 --> 01:17:47,450 And hopefully it will keep us what we've had the same rate, the weekly garbage collection rate for a long time. 942 01:17:48,150 --> 01:17:56,070 And if this works as planned, we should be able to go a little bit longer without raising that basic rate on everybody. 943 01:17:56,070 --> 01:17:57,190 It's great. 944 01:17:58,830 --> 01:18:00,190 Thank you sir. 945 01:18:02,330 --> 01:18:03,210 Coach Luma Brown. 946 01:18:05,750 --> 01:18:06,350 Very Mr. Dudley. 947 01:18:06,410 --> 01:18:08,150 Just when you thought you were scapes. 948 01:18:09,290 --> 01:18:13,590 Can you remind me what the FES for a non-collectable items? 949 01:18:14,930 --> 01:18:16,030 The non-collectable FES. 950 01:18:16,610 --> 01:18:20,010 That's gonna be $150 and $10 per cubic yard. 951 01:18:21,850 --> 01:18:23,570 $150, that's base rate, right? 952 01:18:23,650 --> 01:18:24,370 Yes ma'am. 953 01:18:26,940 --> 01:18:27,860 Per cubic yard? 954 01:18:28,180 --> 01:18:29,900 Yeah, $10 per cubic yard. 955 01:18:29,900 --> 01:18:38,380 Okay. And so, how does that affect us because in the past, currently, let me, let me 956 01:18:38,380 --> 01:18:45,880 rephrase that. Currently, if a person or an entity puts something near their garbage 957 01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:53,660 collection that is non-collectable, it just sits there until code enforcement comes to 958 01:18:53,660 --> 01:18:55,740 the way it currently works. 959 01:18:56,380 --> 01:18:57,700 Kind of that's what it's been doing. 960 01:18:58,100 --> 01:19:00,400 You know, we get calls from code enforcement about 961 01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:02,920 new sense calls about C&D, 962 01:19:03,060 --> 01:19:05,120 and not collectables at curbside. 963 01:19:05,300 --> 01:19:07,500 The only thing that we've been doing now 964 01:19:07,500 --> 01:19:09,180 is trying to make contact with the customer 965 01:19:09,180 --> 01:19:11,480 and the customer know they have to remove it. 966 01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:12,500 And if they don't remove it, 967 01:19:12,580 --> 01:19:13,900 it would end up happening code enforcement 968 01:19:13,900 --> 01:19:14,980 and end up getting involved. 969 01:19:15,380 --> 01:19:16,880 By us putting this in place here, 970 01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:18,380 this is going to help code enforcement 971 01:19:18,380 --> 01:19:20,080 as well as give us opportunity 972 01:19:20,660 --> 01:19:22,780 to provide that information to the customer 973 01:19:22,780 --> 01:19:24,780 and let them know kind of how you look. 974 01:19:25,060 --> 01:19:26,960 You have to remove this off the side of the road 975 01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:29,440 if you don't, then this is what's gonna happen. 976 01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:31,400 And then we let them know that you can take it 977 01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:32,420 to the transfer station. 978 01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:34,760 And we accept it as a transfer station, 979 01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:37,200 and they can use the utility bill too as well. 980 01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:39,440 I have a house over here on the left side 981 01:19:39,440 --> 01:19:42,060 that I can guarantee the property owners 982 01:19:42,060 --> 01:19:45,600 are gonna love that because they have had a role of carpet 983 01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:48,000 setting outside for a couple of years 984 01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:50,800 that we haven't had a way to pick up 985 01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:52,200 or a way to get through that. 986 01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:59,140 code is but all credit to code enforcement they've opened the case they've done what they can with it but you know 987 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:29,800 So, for a couple of years, that's just been sitting out there. I will go back to my previous question though, no, this one may be not so much leeway on typing, but how are we going to put the word out there about the specific items that, because if I leave a can of paint sitting on the ground next to my garbage can, I would prefer you just leave it there. I don't feel like spending a hundred and sixty dollars for you to take that one can of paint 988 01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:35,100 away. So how do we get that word out and make it so it's equitable? Because if there's two 989 01:20:35,100 --> 01:20:40,520 three things that we can clearly see, I can't see charging them that much money for it. 990 01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:46,920 Okay. And I get it. I understand what we're going to do. We're going to knock it every door. 991 01:20:47,260 --> 01:20:51,980 We're going to leave pamphlets. We're going to also leave information on material that's not 992 01:20:51,980 --> 01:20:57,200 supposed to be there along with the supervisors card or the specialist card. And we're going to follow 993 01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:01,240 up with that customer. We're going to get that customer opportunity after we let them know, 994 01:21:01,300 --> 01:21:05,530 hey, these things have to be removed. And when it comes to paint, we'll let them know. 995 01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:10,680 Certain paints, you know, you put a key to litter in them and solidify. You can solidify them 996 01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:15,320 that way and you can actually throw them away once they dry it out. So we'll take it that way. 997 01:21:15,480 --> 01:21:20,840 So you won't have to worry about having that curve side that way. So I didn't know that, 998 01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:27,100 but that is great information to have. I'll just say to save a little bit of the budget 999 01:21:27,100 --> 01:21:33,380 for your department instead of going out, creating all of these. I know Stick Cog has all the forms they use for 1000 01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:40,340 the household hazardous waste collections. Most of the items that are on that are the items that we can 1001 01:21:40,340 --> 01:21:46,800 had deemed non-collectable anyway. And so perhaps we could work with Stick Coggets. Some of those 1002 01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:54,980 stick it cleanly upon them and say, hey look, put these out. Pay this much. Okay. Just a few minutes. That's 1003 01:21:54,980 --> 01:21:59,100 you want to use your budget go ahead but I'm trying to help you out. I get you. I appreciate that. 1004 01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:06,520 Okay, council council member best. Mayor, I was going to make a motion but I see a couple 1005 01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:09,920 of other people want to speak so should I like or after that. 1006 01:22:12,330 --> 01:22:15,970 You what's a public hearing. So we've 1007 01:22:15,970 --> 01:22:18,650 got to do public hearing. Yes sir. Yeah. 1008 01:22:21,440 --> 01:22:23,180 Council member Hendrix? 1009 01:22:25,260 --> 01:22:27,680 All right first first I don't want to 1010 01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:32,260 I don't know shade, but we actually did those shade on our code enforcement. 1011 01:22:34,100 --> 01:22:41,160 But there I know I'm out, and I go through the neighborhoods and anything that I see out 1012 01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:48,340 of place, I take a snapshot, and I send this to code enforcement, or I use what is called 1013 01:22:48,340 --> 01:22:49,940 the Colleen Connect app. 1014 01:22:50,620 --> 01:22:53,360 And the citizens can use this app. 1015 01:22:53,360 --> 01:23:05,240 If you see your neighbors got something out there that don't belong, you can assist code enforcement assist this city and in helping out with removing these items. 1016 01:23:05,900 --> 01:23:17,580 But I also know on a site itself on the city site. They have a lot of people say they kind of crazy little commercial light deals with they also talk about this. 1017 01:23:17,580 --> 01:23:23,820 things that shouldn't be put out on the curve and our citizens were put in stuff out 1018 01:23:25,300 --> 01:23:33,860 on our site to inform citizens and it comes to a point where a law officer told me this 1019 01:23:33,860 --> 01:23:41,600 one time ignorance to the law is no excuse if it is put out there and there's ample amount of 1020 01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:47,560 time for you to make your adjustments then it is what it is and we're not here to 1021 01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:53,320 hold anybody's hand. We're going to put the notices out when the notices need to be put out, 1022 01:23:53,800 --> 01:24:00,120 but also we need the citizens to read and get on the city website because a lot of this information 1023 01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:04,420 is already out there. And that's all I have, Mr. Mayor. 1024 01:24:04,660 --> 01:24:05,160 Councillor interjecting. 1025 01:24:09,580 --> 01:24:09,640 Councillor interjecting. 1026 01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:09,740 Councillor interjecting. 1027 01:24:09,740 --> 01:24:12,060 Councillor interjecting. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. To be the last time I speak on this, my second time. 1028 01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:18,840 But I do want to just confirm with the Councillor interjecting. When we go around the city and our districts 1029 01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:21,760 And talking to the citizens, one of the things we always hear, 1030 01:24:22,020 --> 01:24:26,620 speeding, we hear code enforcement, and we hear beautification. 1031 01:24:27,100 --> 01:24:31,800 And this is just, obviously, this is an effort to improve that beautification. 1032 01:24:32,020 --> 01:24:37,240 I think it was on our surveys and everything we do, people say the city looks bad. 1033 01:24:37,500 --> 01:24:43,880 And this is just part of a plan that we keep building upon the ads or our beautification of the cities. 1034 01:24:43,980 --> 01:24:45,000 Thank you for your efforts, sir. 1035 01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:47,500 Absolutely. I agree with you. 100%. 1036 01:24:47,500 --> 01:24:49,080 Thank you, sir. 1037 01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:49,700 Thank you. 1038 01:24:49,740 --> 01:24:50,120 I love you. 1039 01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:51,160 You said it with that said. 1040 01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:55,180 I'm going to call for public hearing. 1041 01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:57,660 Public hearing is now open. 1042 01:24:58,520 --> 01:24:59,920 Madam City Secretary, please. 1043 01:25:00,020 --> 01:25:08,940 Call, first, proceed. There are no speakers signed up for public hearing 26, 028. 1044 01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:14,360 Okay, thank you, ma'am. The case above the hearing is now closed. 1045 01:25:17,620 --> 01:25:18,440 Hey, Texas, 1046 01:25:21,050 --> 01:25:27,070 I want to, we can take a, I need a motion on this, um, consideration of the ordinance. 1047 01:25:27,070 --> 01:25:29,070 May I vote him? 1048 01:25:30,930 --> 01:25:33,730 Yes sir, I make a motion to approve. 1049 01:25:33,730 --> 01:25:34,910 I make 1050 01:25:38,500 --> 01:25:40,200 a motion to approve. 1051 01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:44,780 pH 26.029. 1052 01:25:49,140 --> 01:25:49,560 That's up to you. 1053 01:25:49,860 --> 01:25:49,960 Two. 1054 01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:51,300 Two eight. 1055 01:25:51,300 --> 01:25:51,680 I'm sorry. 1056 01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:52,000 Two eight. 1057 01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:54,840 26.028. 1058 01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:58,360 Is there a second? 1059 01:25:58,800 --> 01:25:59,600 Council member of Bess? 1060 01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:01,420 I second the motion mayor. 1061 01:26:02,020 --> 01:26:03,320 Is there any discussion? 1062 01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:06,320 Council member? 1063 01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:07,860 All right. 1064 01:26:07,940 --> 01:26:09,780 There's no discussion signifier. 1065 01:26:10,580 --> 01:26:11,220 Yes, 1066 01:26:13,870 --> 01:26:17,910 I feel, you four, signify by yes, all opposed, 1067 01:26:31,390 --> 01:26:31,550 no. 1068 01:26:31,630 --> 01:26:36,950 It's in past five to one with council member Brown opposing. 1069 01:26:39,650 --> 01:26:40,350 Thank you council. 1070 01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:43,500 Madam City Secretary. 1071 01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:49,080 Next item. 1072 01:26:49,100 --> 01:26:50,080 Item 12. 1073 01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:53,960 PH-26-029. 1074 01:26:54,580 --> 01:26:56,820 Hold a public hearing and consider an ordinance, 1075 01:26:56,820 --> 01:27:03,220 amending the code of ordinances, chapter 30, water, sewers, and sewage disposal to amend 1076 01:27:03,220 --> 01:27:07,360 residential and commercial water rates and residential sewer rates. 1077 01:27:08,740 --> 01:27:15,420 Ordnance caption reads and ordinance amending chapter 30, article 4, of the code of ordinances 1078 01:27:15,420 --> 01:27:20,640 of the city of Killing by amending commercial and residential water rates and residential sewer 1079 01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:29,680 providing for the repeal of conflicting provisions, providing for a savings clause, providing for a publication and an effective date. 1080 01:27:30,440 --> 01:27:36,720 And you're on, we do have one virtual commenter, and she is waiting for the public hearing to start. 1081 01:27:38,260 --> 01:27:38,660 Thank you. 1082 01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:41,080 Good evening, Ms. Sengar. 1083 01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:42,740 Good evening. Thank you, Mayor. 1084 01:27:43,060 --> 01:27:44,040 Thank you, council members. 1085 01:27:44,700 --> 01:27:47,980 This item is for doctor to the ordinance rate of amendments. 1086 01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:56,080 A background on July 7, 2020, the city council received the resource of the 2020 water 1087 01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:57,640 and sewer rate study. 1088 01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:03,380 The study indicated that water revenues were insufficient to fully fund projected expenses 1089 01:28:03,380 --> 01:28:05,200 to include infrastructure replacement. 1090 01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:11,180 Recommended a five year phase approach to increase the base charge for commercial meters 1091 01:28:11,180 --> 01:28:15,540 based on the American water work association standards for meter size capacities. 1092 01:28:15,540 --> 01:28:25,060 Phase 1 was implemented in 2023, 2, 24, 3, and 25, phase 4 and 26, and we're doing phase 5 and 27. 1093 01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:30,600 All of these should are revenue created by the increases that are proposed in the fiscal year to year 27. 1094 01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:39,500 But the phase 5 of the five-year commercial water rating increase, that will create 141,752 revenue. 1095 01:28:39,500 --> 01:28:46,580 a 5% increase to residential water base rate or meter sizes that will increase revenues by 1096 01:28:46,580 --> 01:28:54,640 523,726 in a 65 cents increased to residential sewer base rate that will increase revenue 1097 01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:57,040 by 425,360. 1098 01:28:58,700 --> 01:29:04,000 This is the water raise residential proposed increases as you can see as 5% increase across 1099 01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:13,120 for volumetric rate will be 5% for 2,000 to 15,000, another 5% for 15 to 20,000 and 2,000 1100 01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:15,940 gals and other will be 10%. 1101 01:29:18,370 --> 01:29:21,930 This is the proposed increase for a water race commercial that 1102 01:29:21,930 --> 01:29:29,790 is the phase 505 that we started in 2022 and then the amount will match in a slide that I have 1103 01:29:29,790 --> 01:29:38,390 next, that it will be the 5-meter equivalent space in for commerce of the 2021-2020 race 1104 01:29:38,390 --> 01:29:39,010 study. 1105 01:29:39,630 --> 01:29:45,190 So these are the increases in 2022-22-22-24, and this is the increases for this fiscal year. 1106 01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:54,440 For the civil race, you'll use 65 cents change for the minimum for first-degree thousand 1107 01:29:54,440 --> 01:29:57,360 call it as the base rate for a percent ratio. 1108 01:30:00,020 --> 01:30:08,400 And this will be a utility bill change at our residential customer that spends 5,600 gallons of water per month. 1109 01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:15,020 We'll see a $2 increase to $0.5 increase from the current bill to the recommended rate. 1110 01:30:16,340 --> 01:30:18,020 Increased to 0.16%. 1111 01:30:21,370 --> 01:30:31,450 Recommendations at the city council approved the ordinance amendment in chapter 2, water stewards and sewer disposed of the code of ordinance to amend residential and commercial water and residential sewer rates. 1112 01:30:31,450 --> 01:30:36,910 I would be happy to answer any questions you may have. 1113 01:30:37,150 --> 01:30:38,290 Councilmember Brown. 1114 01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:41,860 Miss Tengun. 1115 01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:50,220 The council of previously previously, a couple months ago, approved an increase on the lateral line insurance 1116 01:30:50,220 --> 01:30:51,200 correct. 1117 01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:52,560 Yes, ma'am. 1118 01:30:52,700 --> 01:30:54,520 That was another $1.50. 1119 01:30:55,380 --> 01:30:56,540 For the warranty? 1120 01:30:58,300 --> 01:31:02,760 That was last year. 1121 01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:09,700 we didn't increase the issue okay I remember seeing the presentation come up 1122 01:31:09,700 --> 01:31:17,760 though so in this 9680 is the the sewer water and sewer line warranty is 1123 01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:21,020 that included in that 96 dollars and 80 cents 1124 01:31:30,970 --> 01:31:32,610 does anybody missurcagal do 1125 01:31:32,610 --> 01:31:38,030 you up and remember what that is per account now I can look it up real quick 1126 01:31:38,030 --> 01:31:40,630 Well, someone else talks if I need to. 1127 01:31:40,650 --> 01:31:41,870 I don't have it off the top of my head. 1128 01:31:41,990 --> 01:31:43,430 We can look, we can look it up to you. 1129 01:31:44,570 --> 01:31:48,150 I was just we're getting like so close to having a minimum 1130 01:31:48,150 --> 01:31:52,610 of average, but essentially a minimum $100 bill 1131 01:31:53,230 --> 01:31:58,490 coming into mail into people where my presumption 1132 01:31:58,490 --> 01:32:02,550 is that this council is about to increase the tax rate 1133 01:32:02,550 --> 01:32:05,970 And most definitely, the tax levy, 1134 01:32:08,570 --> 01:32:12,570 we just increase another blind item on the utility 1135 01:32:12,570 --> 01:32:21,550 bill with, will potentially, if someone has brush out there, that increases a blind item 1136 01:32:21,550 --> 01:32:27,350 on the utility bill not automatically puts them up over $100 for that month, I'm just 1137 01:32:27,350 --> 01:32:34,850 Service about how much we push in a single year, where we're not, nobody has that opportunity 1138 01:32:34,850 --> 01:32:37,650 to adjust to small incremental changes. 1139 01:32:38,530 --> 01:32:39,110 Thank you. 1140 01:32:41,380 --> 01:32:41,780 Thank you. 1141 01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:45,080 Is there any other questions or concerns, Council Member Kimball? 1142 01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:46,980 Thank you, Mr. Smith. 1143 01:32:47,020 --> 01:32:47,960 I'm just tangy on it. 1144 01:32:47,980 --> 01:32:55,460 Are we, what percentage of meters are we have the new meters on them where we feel that, 1145 01:32:55,460 --> 01:32:58,900 that the water is being, you know. 1146 01:32:58,900 --> 01:33:01,100 meter at the right rate. 1147 01:33:01,160 --> 01:33:05,080 I believe we have 15 out of 50, 15,000 out of 50,000. 1148 01:33:06,460 --> 01:33:08,220 They're actually working. 1149 01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:10,060 We're a pace three right now. 1150 01:33:11,440 --> 01:33:15,400 Yeah, I do have the same concerns, council member Brown. 1151 01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:18,960 You keep picking, you keep hitting. 1152 01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:23,680 It's, and as we know, things are tough. 1153 01:33:24,660 --> 01:33:26,780 And when it comes to operations and maintenance, 1154 01:33:28,660 --> 01:33:40,920 Those prices are continually increasing and we know that the future when it comes to water and electric use in a state of Texas, I mean, there's no relief in sight. 1155 01:33:41,540 --> 01:33:44,960 So whatever that we can do, whether it be with the new meters, 1156 01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:53,720 the conservation, we have to find a way to help taxpayers and users. 1157 01:33:54,380 --> 01:34:22,560 And whatever we can do with that, you know, through your office, the manager's office, but, you know, we started looking at people on, you know, this is, you know, say this is a retirement community, but it's a whole lot of retirement, it's a retired people on this diet and out there in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, it's the hall. And those who are listening and those who are going to read about this, but we, we have to find a way. 1158 01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:37,600 to give them some relief and as council members, we're not the do our part, but we have to have water, we know that, but we still need to find a way long-term to help people out. 1159 01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:46,520 Thank you for being up front and honest about this, but we're going to have to find a way to help people save money. Thank you, man. 1160 01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:59,960 I completely understand if I'm a water and sewer fund, just when you guys are where it's really tight, this year for 27, we decrease the transfer for the water. 1161 01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:08,580 So if we don't increase the rates, we won't be able to do it in our maintenance and water infrastructure. 1162 01:35:14,340 --> 01:35:15,640 Don't you remember Williams? 1163 01:35:17,910 --> 01:35:26,770 Yes, I'm just echo what the council member was saying here and about how hard it is now even to put it pay your bills. 1164 01:35:26,770 --> 01:35:31,810 And so my question would be, what would this rate change mean for households that are already struggling 1165 01:35:31,810 --> 01:35:34,290 to pay their utility bills? 1166 01:35:34,410 --> 01:35:41,490 And do you all have some type of plan for them to pay their bills that they can't make it? 1167 01:35:41,970 --> 01:35:51,830 We do have a senior citizens' plans on the utility collection building that they can apply for help for citizens 1168 01:35:51,830 --> 01:36:00,630 and depending on the income, so we have a program right now running for them. Also, you did a collection manager. 1169 01:36:01,050 --> 01:36:06,830 She is really flexible if a customer called and I want to try to do payment plan. 1170 01:36:07,450 --> 01:36:08,890 We try to work with customers. 1171 01:36:09,730 --> 01:36:13,190 Okay, so there is a plan for them, if they are struggling to pay the bill. 1172 01:36:13,690 --> 01:36:15,630 The city already have a plan for them. 1173 01:36:15,930 --> 01:36:20,550 We do payment plans. They just have to call and communicate. They will definitely help them. 1174 01:36:20,550 --> 01:36:22,550 Okay. Thank you. Appreciate it. 1175 01:36:23,390 --> 01:36:24,070 May I vote too? 1176 01:36:24,570 --> 01:36:25,350 Thank you. 1177 01:36:25,490 --> 01:36:27,170 I'm a single in your system, that's very important. 1178 01:36:27,570 --> 01:36:29,790 I think that I just need a little clarity for the constituents. 1179 01:36:30,990 --> 01:36:34,610 So I understand to my colleagues' point about it being tough. 1180 01:36:35,010 --> 01:36:36,590 I totally get it. 1181 01:36:37,030 --> 01:36:39,670 However, you mentioned that because the fund was tight, 1182 01:36:40,050 --> 01:36:42,410 that we'd be unable to complete maintenance services, 1183 01:36:42,510 --> 01:36:44,470 can you explain exactly what that looks like? 1184 01:36:44,470 --> 01:36:48,430 Can you pay the picture for our constituents as to what that means to them specifically? 1185 01:36:51,690 --> 01:36:56,470 I'll please think about what she was trying to say. We had started a few years ago, 1186 01:36:56,610 --> 01:37:01,670 transferring about 2 million to the CIP for waterline replacement. It's not in there anymore. 1187 01:37:03,110 --> 01:37:11,390 This 2% you see, I think everybody understands that's well below CIP, but the CIP is a basket of 1188 01:37:11,390 --> 01:37:17,230 goods and services that are consumer-wise. We're not a normal consumer. We buy lots of things 1189 01:37:17,230 --> 01:37:25,450 that aren't reflected in the CIP and so a municipal CIP is going to be a lot higher than 2.16. 1190 01:37:27,470 --> 01:37:32,670 And so we balance this budget by no more money for there might be a couple hundred thousand 1191 01:37:32,670 --> 01:37:40,230 I forget exactly what it is for water line replacement. And so we were we were very far behind 1192 01:37:40,230 --> 01:37:46,110 we made a little progress but now we're not making progress anymore. And I just want you to remember 1193 01:37:46,110 --> 01:37:53,890 We made this presentation. Remember the chart of all of our competitive cities and our rates worth the bottom our water is cheap 1194 01:37:56,090 --> 01:37:56,610 In 1195 01:37:56,610 --> 01:37:59,850 Almost you can look at larger cities smaller cities 1196 01:37:59,850 --> 01:38:05,650 We have one of the best bargains going and not just that but the fact that we have plenty of supplies well 1197 01:38:07,110 --> 01:38:07,630 So 1198 01:38:09,210 --> 01:38:16,090 It's also tough to watch line breaks and watch water pour on the ground that we pulled out of the lake over in Belt and Spino 1199 01:38:16,110 --> 01:38:21,130 the money to treat, to transfer it all the way over here, use the electricity to put it up and 1200 01:38:21,130 --> 01:38:24,770 in the elevated storage tanks, pressurized the system, and then see it go out on the ground. 1201 01:38:25,710 --> 01:38:29,730 So, I guess it just depends on how you want to look at it. 1202 01:38:29,970 --> 01:38:30,390 Thank you. 1203 01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:33,820 Don't remember Brown. 1204 01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:47,620 July 23, 2025, the council voted to approve an increase or renew the contract with SLWA, which then 1205 01:38:47,620 --> 01:38:56,860 put a few of increase from 50 cents per account to $1.33 per account on the utility bills. 1206 01:38:56,860 --> 01:39:02,680 That's the insurance for the lateral water and sewer lines that go through the public right 1207 01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:03,880 of way. 1208 01:39:04,100 --> 01:39:08,300 I just wanted to say when I hadn't looked that part up. 1209 01:39:09,540 --> 01:39:25,200 That is tough news, Nistangling and Mr. Kagel, that without increasing water rates, we may not be at a point where we can do any of our maintenance for the coming fiscal year. 1210 01:39:27,700 --> 01:39:29,540 Not maintenance, water line replacement. 1211 01:39:29,540 --> 01:39:36,840 a group of police. Thank you. Replacement. And that kind of brings me to where I guess I wanted 1212 01:39:36,840 --> 01:39:44,660 to go with this is to Mr. Cagle's point every time we have a waterline break. That's not a couple 1213 01:39:44,660 --> 01:39:53,220 gallons of water that we end up just discharging out into our drainage system. That's tens of thousands 1214 01:39:53,220 --> 01:39:59,980 and depending on how large that break is that can be hundreds of thousands of gallons of water. 1215 01:40:00,860 --> 01:40:16,620 Depending on the severity, how large that maintenance, how long it takes anybody to report it in because it's not like we have a magic ball that sees the whole city where we can tell there's a waterline break and where it is. 1216 01:40:17,340 --> 01:40:22,920 I do think there are things that as a city we can do to cut back on that. 1217 01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:30,940 water, our yardless, water, the parks, and in my personal pet peeve is this city 1218 01:40:30,940 --> 01:40:38,420 pain put in street trees that we are, they also need water. All that foliage that we 1219 01:40:38,420 --> 01:40:41,920 put to make the sides of the street is pretty, we are going to have to decide really 1220 01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:48,140 quick. So we want the aesthetic where it's pretty or do we want to save money. And it's up 1221 01:40:48,140 --> 01:40:51,300 to y'all to tell us which one you prefer moving forward. 1222 01:40:51,300 --> 01:41:03,500 If you want the sides of the street, so look nicer to have those trees to have those flowers and you need to let us know that but understand that that comes with a cost and an increase in the water rates. 1223 01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:14,780 The only way that we can afford to continue doing that if you were to prefer that we don't use that and that is the decision the council has to make every time a project comes up. 1224 01:41:14,780 --> 01:41:25,480 But we have to be told that to you because our 2040 plan does call for street steeping, so if we're going to not abide by that thing, it has to come from the citizens. 1225 01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:26,660 Thank you. 1226 01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:27,780 Thank you. 1227 01:41:29,750 --> 01:41:31,490 Tell us a member of Kindex. 1228 01:41:38,370 --> 01:41:45,270 I understand everybody's concern, but I'm kind of also with the Mayor Pro Temp. 1229 01:41:45,270 --> 01:41:52,890 We have to understand when there comes a time when we have to replace those water lines or a main or something like that. 1230 01:41:52,890 --> 01:42:03,450 that the do maintenance, we are still below the earmark of other cities our size. 1231 01:42:03,810 --> 01:42:13,070 And I think on the slide that we had back in June of July, we still was about $10 under 1232 01:42:13,070 --> 01:42:14,030 that. 1233 01:42:14,030 --> 01:42:17,390 And I think we are doing good. 1234 01:42:17,390 --> 01:42:24,290 It really isn't the city's fault that prices are going up on every time. 1235 01:42:25,810 --> 01:42:28,630 The repair things, the prices are going up. 1236 01:42:29,230 --> 01:42:35,290 And so we have to be prepared to be able to repair things, 1237 01:42:35,430 --> 01:42:39,250 because we are not prepared to repair things. 1238 01:42:39,790 --> 01:42:44,010 And when it happened, the first thing is going to be said you had the opportunity 1239 01:42:44,010 --> 01:42:48,410 to make sure you had the money to do these things. 1240 01:42:49,670 --> 01:42:54,270 And so it's a tough decision that you have to make, 1241 01:42:54,270 --> 01:42:59,970 but it is a decision that would better for our citizens. 1242 01:43:00,630 --> 01:43:03,390 It's tough decisions in everything that we make, 1243 01:43:03,470 --> 01:43:08,230 but the decision is to prepare for the worst case scenario 1244 01:43:08,570 --> 01:43:10,850 if we don't have money in there. 1245 01:43:10,850 --> 01:43:20,850 So, that is what I want to say to my colleagues, I understand prices are going up, but we still have to prepare. 1246 01:43:21,310 --> 01:43:34,350 We have to prepare. It does us. No justice. It does the citizens, no justice. If we are not prepared for a major incident or something that happens with our water lines. Thank you. 1247 01:43:39,630 --> 01:43:41,950 Okay, with this no further discussion. Thank you, ma'am. 1248 01:43:41,950 --> 01:43:42,690 Thank you. 1249 01:43:42,810 --> 01:43:49,990 I'm going to open up the curie now, but the curie is now open to the secretary. 1250 01:43:52,960 --> 01:43:57,160 Our virtual speaker is Heather McMillan. 1251 01:44:00,420 --> 01:44:00,740 Good evening. 1252 01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:02,200 Good evening. 1253 01:44:05,340 --> 01:44:10,000 I strongly oppose the great increase for the water and sewage services. 1254 01:44:10,520 --> 01:44:16,680 First and foremost, my opposition comes from the fact that there's possibly misappropriate 1255 01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:22,860 usage of these funds, such as $40,000 for the drainage fund, for plants to look pretty near 1256 01:44:22,860 --> 01:44:23,560 them all. 1257 01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:32,140 Over $360,000 of the utility funds are allocated to KEDC for who knows what? 1258 01:44:32,440 --> 01:44:40,020 And by the way, that doesn't include that the same nonprofit receives $80,000, $800,000 1259 01:44:40,020 --> 01:44:45,680 from the general fund, and as also, let's not forget the money that has been given to 1260 01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:49,020 all coervers the past few years out of these funds. 1261 01:44:49,420 --> 01:44:54,840 If funds from the utilities were not allocated to just a few of these items, water revenue 1262 01:44:54,840 --> 01:44:59,780 would not be insufficient and there could be maintenance this year and any other year. 1263 01:45:00,270 --> 01:45:07,390 Or, my question is, were these types of items budgeted all along with the increases in mind? 1264 01:45:08,130 --> 01:45:14,370 If so, be honest with the citizens of Colleen, because the examples I gave are just one drainage 1265 01:45:14,370 --> 01:45:21,890 product project and one nonprofit using fees that you now want to increase. How many other projects 1266 01:45:21,890 --> 01:45:28,570 and non-profits are funded the same way with these fees? You as a council of asked for accounting 1267 01:45:28,570 --> 01:45:39,570 and accountability from some of our community partners, like FIC and IBCC, but not all community partners, you have requested this type of information from. 1268 01:45:40,130 --> 01:45:48,710 You should be required in the same accountability and accounting from all community partners and also include city departments like water and sewer. 1269 01:45:48,710 --> 01:45:52,870 These funds should not be used as a slush fund for whatever. 1270 01:45:53,910 --> 01:45:59,170 As those few examples I've given you are a prime example of why you should be asking 1271 01:45:59,170 --> 01:46:05,470 those questions starting today by asking the questions and giving citizens true transparency. 1272 01:46:06,850 --> 01:46:11,730 Second, increasing rates on water and sewage for these types of slush funds is just wrong 1273 01:46:11,730 --> 01:46:14,870 when not all services are even available to all residents. 1274 01:46:14,870 --> 01:46:20,610 Now, if you want to increase rates to bring strange ditches like an onion road where a 1275 01:46:20,610 --> 01:46:25,870 man-able died on July 4th this year and was in a coma from this injuries from unsafe 1276 01:46:25,870 --> 01:46:33,490 conditions of a drainage area or road and streetlights at an unsafe valley road drainage area 1277 01:46:33,490 --> 01:46:40,570 or a sys galvanized line replacements for 1300 homes to have safe drinking water or possibly 1278 01:46:40,570 --> 01:46:47,010 set to take removal system program, or even a FEMA flood zone map to update the drainage plan 1279 01:46:47,010 --> 01:46:51,870 to prevent many of these drainage water and sewage issues in the futures. I would not be 1280 01:46:51,870 --> 01:46:57,730 opposed to the increase rates, because that's helping our citizens and our cities in the long run. 1281 01:46:58,430 --> 01:47:05,770 So again, be real with me. Please tell me how does pretty plants may I have one more minute please? 1282 01:47:07,950 --> 01:47:16,230 Yes you may. So again be real with me please. Tell me how does pretty plants by the mall and the 1283 01:47:16,230 --> 01:47:23,250 EDC and nonprofit and a golf course help me the average citizen. Because I believe most citizens 1284 01:47:23,250 --> 01:47:29,050 want their money to go to the don't want to go to those things either. Do not increase these rates 1285 01:47:29,050 --> 01:47:35,570 so you all continue to have a slush fund for unnecessary items when we have real issues where those funds 1286 01:47:35,570 --> 01:47:41,550 and fees can be used for. Thank you. I would like a quiet, I would like the answer on why we are 1287 01:47:41,550 --> 01:47:52,370 giving EDC $360,000 extra money as a nonprofit as somebody likes to quote, they don't like to 1288 01:47:52,370 --> 01:47:58,510 give money to nonprofits on that council. So we're giving them now over a million dollars a year. 1289 01:47:59,270 --> 01:48:04,510 I do have a question, 360,000 extra dollars out of that. 1290 01:48:04,750 --> 01:48:05,530 I would like an answer. 1291 01:48:05,950 --> 01:48:06,910 Thank you. 1292 01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:09,320 Thank you, man. 1293 01:48:09,380 --> 01:48:09,980 Put your comments. 1294 01:48:11,580 --> 01:48:12,320 Madam, city secretary. 1295 01:48:14,420 --> 01:48:16,800 There are no other speakers for this public hearing. 1296 01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:19,000 Yes, no other. 1297 01:48:19,620 --> 01:48:19,940 Okay. 1298 01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:22,740 With that said. 1299 01:48:23,780 --> 01:48:25,720 But the hearing is close. 1300 01:48:27,060 --> 01:48:30,340 Council, I would entertain a motion to consider the ordinance. 1301 01:48:31,640 --> 01:48:33,120 Councilmember Bess. 1302 01:48:37,610 --> 01:48:40,730 I make a motion that the City Council approved the ordinance 1303 01:48:40,730 --> 01:48:47,110 demanding chapter 30 water sewers and sewer disposal disposal of the code of 1304 01:48:47,110 --> 01:48:51,470 ordinances to amend residential and commercial water and residential sewer 1305 01:48:51,470 --> 01:48:57,550 rates as presented. Is there a second Councilmember Williams? 1306 01:48:57,550 --> 01:48:58,410 that 1307 01:49:00,590 --> 01:49:03,430 second. Is there any discussion? 1308 01:49:05,660 --> 01:49:06,660 Councilmember Brown. 1309 01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:17,820 Mr. Cable, can you explain why we take funds from the water department and give them to KEDC please? 1310 01:49:18,260 --> 01:49:23,140 Well, I can answer that, but there was a lot of mathematical problems in the statements that were made. 1311 01:49:23,380 --> 01:49:32,560 But that was accurate about 360,000 comes out of the water and sewer fund. And when this was started, I don't know how long ago that gates ago. 1312 01:49:33,460 --> 01:49:41,120 The idea was the general fund and the water fund were the two largest funds in the city and both benefit from economic development so they both shared. 1313 01:49:41,340 --> 01:49:46,180 There's more that comes out of the general fund than the water and sewer fund, but that's the basic concept. 1314 01:49:49,580 --> 01:49:54,100 What benefit does the economic development bring to the water fund? 1315 01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:55,720 More customers. 1316 01:49:58,420 --> 01:49:59,660 I mean, very respectfully. 1317 01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:03,700 I say more customers and more revenue but also more expense. 1318 01:50:03,820 --> 01:50:09,180 Sure. Yeah. You asked me where I thought this came from. It's been done for decades. I gave you 1319 01:50:09,180 --> 01:50:18,460 the best answer I've got. Realistically, there's a different place that we can get KDC money from 1320 01:50:18,460 --> 01:50:28,240 rather than, well, let me back that up. How is it that we're allows even see money from an enterprise 1321 01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:31,820 fund and put it into a non-governmental use? 1322 01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:35,700 Well, it is a governmental use. 1323 01:50:35,940 --> 01:50:37,540 KADC is the city of Kaly. 1324 01:50:38,320 --> 01:50:39,800 I'm sorry, a non-operational. 1325 01:50:41,540 --> 01:50:46,580 Well, I would argue that it is operational, as opposed to, if you're talking about operations 1326 01:50:46,580 --> 01:50:49,140 in capital, that's operations, economic development. 1327 01:50:49,800 --> 01:50:55,980 Just as if we had, if KADC didn't exist, and we had an economic development, apartment 1328 01:50:55,980 --> 01:51:00,040 in the city, it would be fun to be funded out of the general fund and the utility fund. 1329 01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:05,690 could be. And I promise I'm not trying to 1330 01:51:05,690 --> 01:51:13,310 talk to you. I just don't see how KDC is an operation of water and sewer within the city. 1331 01:51:13,710 --> 01:51:18,510 And in the budget, it's listed under the non-operational breakdown of costs. 1332 01:51:20,200 --> 01:51:22,620 I understand what you're saying, but I was looking at it differently, 1333 01:51:22,860 --> 01:51:24,220 operations in capital. 1334 01:51:25,900 --> 01:51:28,340 No, it can all come from the general fund if that's what you want. 1335 01:51:29,620 --> 01:51:36,780 Okay, I just wanted to give our citizen an answer as to the money coming out of the water fund. 1336 01:51:38,300 --> 01:51:42,360 And money is not going to buy pretty plants by the mall from the water fund. 1337 01:51:42,680 --> 01:51:44,900 Money is not going to the golf course from the water fund. 1338 01:51:45,820 --> 01:51:52,420 No, but to a point, she did say that the foliage or the plants came out of the drainage fund. 1339 01:51:52,840 --> 01:51:54,620 Yeah, we're talking about the water and sewer fund. 1340 01:51:54,700 --> 01:51:57,340 Correct, but she did specify out of the drainage fund. 1341 01:51:57,340 --> 01:51:59,200 Thank you. 1342 01:52:01,340 --> 01:52:11,840 Okay, if there's no other discussion on all in favor of the emotion and signify by saying yes those opposed no 1343 01:52:18,950 --> 01:52:22,050 motion pass five to 1344 01:52:23,250 --> 01:52:26,810 One with the council member Brown opposing 1345 01:52:27,790 --> 01:52:29,350 Thank you 1346 01:52:29,350 --> 01:52:30,270 We're going to take a 1347 01:52:32,270 --> 01:52:32,870 We 1348 01:52:58,790 --> 01:53:00,970 call the meeting back to order, 1349 01:53:03,720 --> 01:53:15,380 Madam City Secretary, the next item budget, we will now go into items that related to our budget and tax rate. 1350 01:53:17,210 --> 01:53:22,030 It is a public hearing and only on the tax rate. 1351 01:53:22,030 --> 01:53:34,210 I had a 13-P-H-2-6-030 hold a public hearing on proposed tax rate for the fiscal year beginning October 1, 1352 01:53:34,450 --> 01:53:38,090 2026 and ending September 30th, 2027. 1353 01:53:41,160 --> 01:53:42,020 Oh, again, Mr. Kabel. 1354 01:53:42,380 --> 01:53:43,420 Mayor, Council. 1355 01:53:43,940 --> 01:53:48,960 So I get the pleasure of standing up and talking about everybody's favorite topic, taxes. 1356 01:53:50,920 --> 01:53:57,380 And just a little bit, a little bit of commentary, there are no good taxes, nobody likes 1357 01:53:57,380 --> 01:53:57,980 taxes. 1358 01:54:00,960 --> 01:54:06,540 But we're funded basically by the property tax, and where there's property or whatever it 1359 01:54:06,540 --> 01:54:10,800 is, the best tax is one that's a very low rate that everybody pays. 1360 01:54:13,190 --> 01:54:17,470 And that way you get good compliance when it's a low rate, most people pay. 1361 01:54:17,470 --> 01:54:26,170 But what we've done in Texas is state and local governments funded really three ways income taxes property taxes sales taxes. 1362 01:54:26,350 --> 01:54:28,850 We don't have any income tax, nothing wrong with that. 1363 01:54:29,070 --> 01:54:34,370 Typically means your property and your sales taxes are going to be a little higher. 1364 01:54:35,990 --> 01:54:44,310 But then we've taken that another step forward and given many, many exemptions and I'm not just talking about the veterans exemption, 1365 01:54:44,310 --> 01:54:49,010 not even going to talk about that tonight, but there are lots of other exemptions that 1366 01:54:49,010 --> 01:54:56,270 the state gives out, that state doesn't let me a property tax, but they give out lots 1367 01:54:56,270 --> 01:54:57,450 of tax abatements. 1368 01:54:57,650 --> 01:54:59,970 So that means the group of people that actually... 1369 01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:24,680 Pay taxes are getting smaller and smaller and smaller. And so I like to complain about taxes too, but that's one of the big reasons that that's such a big topic in Texas is because what we're doing to people is, we have decided that the wealthiest segment of our society, those over 65, you can go to the census, dad and see it. 1370 01:55:24,680 --> 01:55:29,400 that they can't pay their taxes so we got a freeze and we're exempted and the state's 1371 01:55:29,400 --> 01:55:35,120 bragging today about how many people now pay zero property taxes. But when you've got so many 1372 01:55:35,120 --> 01:55:40,340 people that are frozen the wealthiest segment that does Jerry Jones really need a property tax 1373 01:55:40,340 --> 01:55:46,560 price on his house in Holland Park. That means there's a certain segment of society that's going to 1374 01:55:46,560 --> 01:55:51,760 be paying a lot. Now we're talking about our taxes so we got to talk about that all that other 1375 01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:56,860 enough to give, and that was just my frustration and commentary with the way we're doing things. 1376 01:56:00,630 --> 01:56:04,690 We don't provide, and we'll talk about the budget in a minute, but regards the tax rate, 1377 01:56:05,050 --> 01:56:05,930 which funds that budget. 1378 01:56:06,010 --> 01:56:10,130 We don't provide a lot of extravagant services, we're not into social services. 1379 01:56:10,970 --> 01:56:11,690 Very, very small. 1380 01:56:11,970 --> 01:56:17,970 We've talked a whole lot about homeless services, but that's about all we do as far as social 1381 01:56:17,970 --> 01:56:18,410 services. 1382 01:56:18,410 --> 01:56:26,030 we're the basics. We fund police, and fire, and streets, and then to a much lesser extent 1383 01:56:26,030 --> 01:56:32,030 parks and wreck and libraries, and that's pretty much our general fund. And it's funded 1384 01:56:32,030 --> 01:56:38,430 primarily by property tax and sales tax. And so we're now to this calendar. It says the budget 1385 01:56:38,430 --> 01:56:43,510 calendar. It's also the tax rate calendar. And you see we started back in February and now we're 1386 01:56:43,510 --> 01:56:49,350 September 1st and we're having this public hearing on the proposed tax rate. 1387 01:56:49,890 --> 01:56:53,130 You know, our current rate is here. 1388 01:56:53,670 --> 01:56:56,370 It's set 0.7014. 1389 01:56:58,210 --> 01:57:00,650 Now, the state has a lot of laws and regulations. 1390 01:57:01,330 --> 01:57:11,070 And they've determined what a no new revenue rate is the rate that generates the same tax revenue as the prior year from properties taxed in both years. 1391 01:57:11,070 --> 01:57:16,850 And that's a very sliding increase at 0.7048. 1392 01:57:18,070 --> 01:57:21,330 Our proposed rate is 0.7215. 1393 01:57:21,650 --> 01:57:26,030 That's the rate we've used to develop this budget. 1394 01:57:26,930 --> 01:57:27,990 And then it was amended. 1395 01:57:28,770 --> 01:57:32,010 And then the voter approval rate is 7302. 1396 01:57:32,110 --> 01:57:35,550 If we go above that, it triggers an automatic election. 1397 01:57:36,890 --> 01:57:41,950 The tax rate that I'm recommending tonight is 0.7301. 1398 01:57:42,730 --> 01:57:47,730 You can adopt the tax rate that's lower than that, but you can't go higher without 1399 01:57:47,730 --> 01:57:51,550 starting a new process and that would take us to the end of September. 1400 01:57:54,090 --> 01:57:59,450 From our certified role that you see the similar numbers, what's being proposed? 1401 01:58:00,070 --> 01:58:10,070 the 0.7301 is an increase of 0.0287 and what does that mean? Well, let me look at historically. 1402 01:58:12,830 --> 01:58:21,750 You can see in 2021, 2022, 23, 24 when property rates property values really started going up. 1403 01:58:21,850 --> 01:58:27,290 We did reduce the rate and we were under some of those state mandated rates for quite a while. 1404 01:58:29,310 --> 01:58:38,270 We're still not up to the 20 high, but as has been said before, property values are a lot higher now. 1405 01:58:38,770 --> 01:58:46,730 I just think this shows we've tried to do the best we can with the tax rate in the past since 2019. 1406 01:58:50,030 --> 01:58:58,150 So the recommended preliminary rate of 73.01 generates a levy. 1407 01:58:58,150 --> 01:59:08,070 of $78,207,959, which would provide a balanced, which would meet the requirements of the budget. 1408 01:59:08,670 --> 01:59:14,310 If we adopt a tax rate that's lower than that, we're going to have to make some budget reductions. 1409 01:59:15,830 --> 01:59:45,750 tax payer impact. So in 26, these are the these are the current numbers and the proposed numbers for fiscal year 2027. And that would be a difference on the median homestead value. Now, the state uses two different terms in two different ways. I'll show you that. Number one is the median. That's if you list all the values. 1410 01:59:45,750 --> 01:59:47,910 from the lowest of the highest, the one right in the middle. 1411 01:59:48,090 --> 01:59:50,650 No, I'm sorry, that is the median. 1412 01:59:51,170 --> 01:59:53,250 That's the median, it's the one that's right in the middle. 1413 01:59:53,970 --> 01:59:57,410 And so that is would be an increase of $237. 1414 01:59:58,090 --> 01:59:59,310 I'm sorry, on the value. 1415 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:10,780 We back up the estimated city tax bill would be an increase of $68.48 or $5.71 a month. 1416 02:00:12,300 --> 02:00:17,760 The reason I talked about this number is because when we do an advertisement, I'll show you here 1417 02:00:17,760 --> 02:00:24,220 in a minute, they say use the mean, which is the average. Sometimes those two are close and sometimes 1418 02:00:24,220 --> 02:00:29,240 they can be very far apart. I don't think that was done intentionally. It just happened and 1419 02:00:31,710 --> 02:00:32,030 so 1420 02:00:33,810 --> 02:00:40,330 on our notice, when we had to put the notice in the paper, I can't enlarge this, but if you 1421 02:00:40,330 --> 02:00:48,370 can see it down here, you can see right there, right there, it says average. That's me. That's the 1422 02:00:48,370 --> 02:00:52,330 average. You take all the values and you average them up and you get some slightly different 1423 02:00:52,330 --> 02:00:57,670 numbers. So I just want everybody to know, we're doing what the state tells us to. It just 1424 02:00:57,670 --> 02:00:59,770 sometimes doesn't make a lot of sense. 1425 02:01:04,080 --> 02:01:05,080 Let me go back. 1426 02:01:05,700 --> 02:01:07,120 And so, 1427 02:01:09,360 --> 02:01:10,640 that's the proposed tax rate, 1428 02:01:11,100 --> 02:01:12,660 and we have a public hearing tonight, 1429 02:01:12,760 --> 02:01:14,200 but I'd be happy to answer any questions 1430 02:01:14,200 --> 02:01:15,960 before the hearing that you might have. 1431 02:01:18,890 --> 02:01:21,510 Big council, council member Brown. 1432 02:01:23,620 --> 02:01:26,220 Just to make sure I have a correct, 1433 02:01:26,240 --> 02:01:29,620 you said I approximately one cent on the tax rate 1434 02:01:29,620 --> 02:01:31,680 is a million dollars in revenue to the city. 1435 02:01:31,880 --> 02:01:32,720 Yes, man, it's a tiny bit, 1436 02:01:32,740 --> 02:01:33,980 I don't have the exact number, but yes, 1437 02:01:34,220 --> 02:01:35,280 that I would say that, yes. 1438 02:01:35,420 --> 02:01:36,160 Thank you. 1439 02:01:40,760 --> 02:01:43,360 Nice king. What's the record show there? 1440 02:01:43,480 --> 02:01:44,380 Can I have some over there, excuse me? 1441 02:01:45,160 --> 02:01:47,920 Yes, sir. I was there. 1442 02:01:49,480 --> 02:01:51,060 Mr. Cagle, thank you. 1443 02:01:51,540 --> 02:01:54,580 And the finance team for your hard work and council. 1444 02:01:55,060 --> 02:01:59,500 We have gone over this a lot and gave a lot of input on it. 1445 02:02:00,580 --> 02:02:04,080 There is a need and I can understand the residents, 1446 02:02:04,760 --> 02:02:07,580 concerned and reference to and reality. 1447 02:02:07,980 --> 02:02:09,580 No one wants their taxes. 1448 02:02:09,580 --> 02:02:17,640 right. But I don't know how we can get around to continue to provide the services that are 1449 02:02:17,640 --> 02:02:24,160 necessary to keep our city afloat. Some of the biggest things I know the council was 1450 02:02:24,160 --> 02:02:29,580 concerned about. The incentives to pay, thank insurance. We want to ensure that our employees 1451 02:02:29,580 --> 02:02:34,620 are taking care of because they work extremely hard. And the things that I really care about 1452 02:02:34,620 --> 02:02:48,160 We'll save the first correct, save the sheer comfort, but it's also the quality of life when it comes to the basic services that we provide that I noticed that some cities do not even provide those services. 1453 02:02:48,500 --> 02:02:58,640 We go beyond like if we give the brush on the streets stuff like that, we try to go and pick it up and try to help out move big furniture, even though there's a fee to that now. 1454 02:02:58,640 --> 02:03:05,400 Why is that? Because it has to be in order for us to continue to operate and the maintenance 1455 02:03:05,400 --> 02:03:11,780 on our vehicles, our employees. They want more employees. Yes, we all want more. We need more 1456 02:03:11,780 --> 02:03:18,500 employees, but it comes with a price. So I'm just grateful that we are the council, we the council 1457 02:03:18,500 --> 02:03:24,780 have really have this deep discussion and that and to listen to the residents. And I know 1458 02:03:24,780 --> 02:03:31,940 the residents still have some concerns, but if there is a magic wand that we can have to come up with a 1459 02:03:31,940 --> 02:03:39,060 solution that is function or for everyone, I think we would have used that wand by now. So with the best 1460 02:03:39,060 --> 02:03:47,320 we could do with the resources we have, thank you all. And I picked on Jerry Jones, but I turned 65 this year, 1461 02:03:47,320 --> 02:03:51,140 So, I don't know why my taxes are frozen either. 1462 02:03:53,480 --> 02:03:57,690 Go to member of Kimball, Mr. Mayor. 1463 02:03:58,030 --> 02:04:05,850 Hey, Mr. Kayg, if you could, can you give me an explanation, you tell me why the average 1464 02:04:05,850 --> 02:04:15,110 in the mean is different, but the total tax level that that's different from, sure, at 1465 02:04:15,110 --> 02:04:16,310 numbers should be the same, right? 1466 02:04:17,530 --> 02:04:23,270 No, but because we're going to have the tax rate on the total taxable base. 1467 02:04:23,610 --> 02:04:25,370 That's, that's going to be the same. 1468 02:04:25,910 --> 02:04:33,370 But what the state has said is, how does that impact an average homeowner? 1469 02:04:33,770 --> 02:04:35,270 But they use two different terms. 1470 02:04:35,630 --> 02:04:40,270 One, they said use the average and one, they said use the median. 1471 02:04:40,270 --> 02:04:52,010 So, for instance, the estimated city tax bill using the median home-stead value is $1699. 1472 02:04:53,050 --> 02:04:59,970 And if I go over here to the ad, where we used the average, it is... 1473 02:05:01,600 --> 02:05:15,140 1681, that would have been fine. I can barely see it. 1,770. So using the mean, the numbers 1,770, and using the median, 1474 02:05:15,500 --> 02:05:22,780 it's 1,699. Not a huge difference, but I just want people to know these are not mistakes. We're following the law. 1475 02:05:22,780 --> 02:05:27,440 But the total tax levy is $4 million, do you understand? 1476 02:05:28,760 --> 02:05:30,020 No, sir, let me go back. 1477 02:05:30,380 --> 02:05:43,000 Our total levy is 78 million, 207,959. 1478 02:05:43,720 --> 02:05:45,580 That's the taxes. 1479 02:05:45,660 --> 02:05:48,040 When you add up all the commercial, all the residential, 1480 02:05:48,040 --> 02:05:57,980 multi-family, everything on the tax rate. This number is, is, is, what's 1481 02:05:57,980 --> 02:06:01,240 advertised in the papers as 74 million, 74, 1482 02:06:03,700 --> 02:06:05,210 6. Let me go back to that. 1483 02:06:05,660 --> 02:06:06,680 It's going the wrong way. 1484 02:06:15,470 --> 02:06:16,770 It is. So, 1485 02:06:24,090 --> 02:06:29,190 we don't get to do this calculation, it's the 1486 02:06:29,190 --> 02:06:33,390 a praise on the district that does that but 1487 02:06:36,080 --> 02:06:39,040 this is ours that's for me now 1488 02:06:41,310 --> 02:06:45,320 well we know 1489 02:06:45,320 --> 02:06:53,200 what our taxable value is and we know what the rate is I'll just say there've been a lot 1490 02:06:53,200 --> 02:06:55,780 of issues over there this year 1491 02:07:00,040 --> 02:07:04,240 so for the sake of this conversation we're going off we'll 1492 02:07:04,240 --> 02:07:14,540 Yes, sir. This is doing the proposed 2027 number with a total levy of 78 to 70 million. Yes, sir. 1493 02:07:16,810 --> 02:07:18,610 That's all right. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 1494 02:07:19,570 --> 02:07:19,870 Come on. 1495 02:07:20,510 --> 02:07:20,510 Mr. 1496 02:07:25,730 --> 02:07:28,710 Google, just for clarity, say, on this again. 1497 02:07:29,030 --> 02:07:31,230 So when you're looking at these two different numbers, are we saying? 1498 02:07:31,690 --> 02:07:39,430 I know you said the appraisal district gives you no choice there to calculate that way on the average versus the median. 1499 02:07:39,430 --> 02:07:44,630 And so would this average then be considered the worst case scenario based on the formula 1500 02:07:44,630 --> 02:07:49,330 and then what we're looking at with the median as our actual, based on what we know our 1501 02:07:49,330 --> 02:07:51,090 average home prices are? 1502 02:07:52,390 --> 02:08:03,430 Well, the numbers we're talking about are what an average or the median that the what they would 1503 02:08:03,430 --> 02:08:03,870 pay. 1504 02:08:03,870 --> 02:08:05,230 So, 1505 02:08:08,170 --> 02:08:23,040 I believe the numbers that we have here are correct on the estimated tax bill, as well 1506 02:08:24,000 --> 02:08:33,340 as these numbers, the average homestead tax on the, I can't get the line right, but the tax 1507 02:08:33,340 --> 02:08:37,380 on the average homestead, that's, I believe that is correct too. 1508 02:08:38,340 --> 02:08:43,480 And so to the folks that are listening at home, if the council does approve the 1509 02:08:45,200 --> 02:08:52,720 .7301 recommended rate, they are on average looking at approximately $5.71 1510 02:08:53,280 --> 02:08:58,660 monthly as an increase, $5.71 on their tax bill. 1511 02:08:58,760 --> 02:08:59,220 Yes, ma'am. 1512 02:08:59,840 --> 02:09:00,400 Thank you. 1513 02:09:00,400 --> 02:09:01,820 You're welcome. Thank you. 1514 02:09:07,180 --> 02:09:08,060 Council member, bro. 1515 02:09:08,660 --> 02:09:10,900 I was trying to get the microphone to come up. 1516 02:09:11,320 --> 02:09:11,640 OK. 1517 02:09:12,940 --> 02:09:15,340 I apologize for circling back to this one more time. 1518 02:09:17,790 --> 02:09:23,010 On the one we're saying right now, that doesn't account for 1519 02:09:23,010 --> 02:09:28,290 if we have twice as many homes that cost a half a million dollars 1520 02:09:28,850 --> 02:09:32,870 than we do that costs $50,000. 1521 02:09:32,870 --> 02:09:40,250 So it just says this is the exact middle point in your housing market correct the median 1522 02:09:42,010 --> 02:09:48,770 Yes, okay, and then on the other one where it's our average home price that takes 1523 02:09:49,350 --> 02:09:52,310 Every single property adds it together 1524 02:09:52,310 --> 02:09:59,970 devise it by that total number and that on average each person pays that now some people if you're how 1525 02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:24,480 House is only valued at $100,000, you're going to pay a lot less than this. If your house is valued at $600,000, you're going to pay a lot more than that. Right. Right. And then when we do the budget, correct me if I'm wrong, you take that tax rate and you multiply it out by the certified tax rules to come up with how much revenue goes into the budget. 1526 02:10:24,480 --> 02:10:31,620 Correct. I just hope that helps to clarify some of our citizens who are watching. Thank you. 1527 02:10:36,220 --> 02:10:40,680 There's any other discussion. There's no other discussion. 1528 02:10:41,820 --> 02:10:42,900 Yes, sir. 1529 02:10:44,440 --> 02:10:51,200 We said that I'm going to open up public hearing now is open. 1530 02:10:51,940 --> 02:10:52,980 Madam City Secretary. 1531 02:10:57,530 --> 02:10:59,830 Yes, sir. The first speaker is Michael Fernino. 1532 02:10:59,830 --> 02:11:00,610 comment 1533 02:11:14,850 --> 02:11:20,410 was made, don't know how to cut back things. We're words to that effect. 1534 02:11:21,970 --> 02:11:27,690 How many things in this city, all this last two years, as I mentioned before, we've 1535 02:11:27,690 --> 02:11:32,290 got road projects that are languishing. How much money did we spend on that and how much 1536 02:11:32,290 --> 02:11:37,810 money are we spending further on projects that are behind schedule and over budget? We don't 1537 02:11:37,810 --> 02:11:43,750 need to send people to AUSA every year. Little things like that in the aggregate, it all adds up. 1538 02:11:45,100 --> 02:11:52,100 We're no danger, but as Mr. Kagels said about sales tax, alright. People can't spend what they don't earn. 1539 02:11:52,560 --> 02:11:56,140 I've used this example time and time again. 1540 02:11:56,900 --> 02:11:59,900 What's the most expensive watch you can buy in Kaleen? 1541 02:12:00,920 --> 02:12:03,800 What's the most expensive the nicest car you can buy in Kaleen? 1542 02:12:05,240 --> 02:12:10,360 We're no danger of having Ethan Allen open up a store in this town. Why? 1543 02:12:10,360 --> 02:12:10,620 Why? 1544 02:12:10,820 --> 02:12:15,140 Because that's a reflection of our buying power, our buying power is tied to our earning 1545 02:12:15,140 --> 02:12:15,760 power. 1546 02:12:17,220 --> 02:12:22,740 If we could have a decent wage where our tax money keeps going to places like the EDC, 1547 02:12:23,440 --> 02:12:27,600 that we never see any benefit of, we never get a choice as people, where there's almost 1548 02:12:27,600 --> 02:12:32,740 million dollars a year, year over, year goes, we don't have any say in it, what to develop. 1549 02:12:33,680 --> 02:12:35,240 We're just taking their word for it. 1550 02:12:37,850 --> 02:12:38,890 That's all of our money. 1551 02:12:38,990 --> 02:12:41,350 We have nothing to show from the EDC. 1552 02:12:41,350 --> 02:12:46,490 Where'd it be? The grocery store? Think back. I realized it's going back in history, but 1553 02:12:46,490 --> 02:12:51,810 Imagine what this town would have looked like if we had had the Dell headquarters and Toyota building pick up trucks here 1554 02:12:53,170 --> 02:12:58,630 Imagine the economic power and that triad right there the fort Toyota and Dell 1555 02:12:58,630 --> 02:13:00,530 Imagine what this town would look like now 1556 02:13:01,570 --> 02:13:05,430 Time after time I say this council this body 1557 02:13:06,030 --> 02:13:08,030 Lacks over the horizon thinking. 1558 02:13:08,610 --> 02:13:09,570 Get correct that. 1559 02:13:09,650 --> 02:13:12,730 We're never going to get a Dell or Toyota. 1560 02:13:13,350 --> 02:13:15,850 Everybody's worried about their own little piece of the pie around here. 1561 02:13:16,010 --> 02:13:19,670 When it comes to taxation, we need to get a break. 1562 02:13:20,190 --> 02:13:21,530 We have to adjust our budget. 1563 02:13:22,050 --> 02:13:25,610 Every time the taxes and the fees go up, the street maintenance fee, 1564 02:13:25,790 --> 02:13:29,050 which is a tax by a different name, street maintenance. 1565 02:13:29,470 --> 02:13:31,890 Yeah, I get the street sweeper down my street from time to time. 1566 02:13:31,890 --> 02:13:41,710 But I get to see anybody actually repaving it, resurfacing it, main painting it, maintenance around here seems to be less weight until the road falls apart, and then we get to spend 1567 02:13:41,710 --> 02:13:46,790 18, 20, 25 million dollars to rebuild the road. And then we do that. 1568 02:13:47,550 --> 02:13:53,970 It takes forever, it goes over cost, over schedule, tighten your budgets, not ours. 1569 02:13:54,830 --> 02:13:59,190 that's that's just common sense I don't have to be Milton Friedman or Thomas 1570 02:13:59,190 --> 02:14:04,210 soul or a bit any big economic theorist to know this there's too many 1571 02:14:04,210 --> 02:14:08,610 projects too many things are being spent furvelously tighten up the city's 1572 02:14:08,610 --> 02:14:14,110 budget not ours I'm sick of it I mean look around I mean if we were such a 1573 02:14:14,110 --> 02:14:17,890 powerhouse tax money went to that museum that was promised millions upon millions 1574 02:14:17,890 --> 02:14:22,150 of people are going to come here where they are not spending money here 1575 02:14:24,420 --> 02:14:24,820 madam 1576 02:14:26,120 --> 02:14:28,820 Second speaker is Dr. Sue Nisecroft. 1577 02:14:43,140 --> 02:14:45,200 I'm standing at this podium tonight 1578 02:14:45,200 --> 02:14:49,180 because our city is trapped in a destructive financial loop. 1579 02:14:49,740 --> 02:14:52,120 From multiple physical cycles, 1580 02:14:52,120 --> 02:14:54,200 we have watts, a repetitive pattern, 1581 02:14:54,760 --> 02:14:57,720 play out early warnings about structural deficits 1582 02:14:57,720 --> 02:14:59,960 I present it, but instead of time. 1583 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:13,500 In our operational belt, we paper over the cracks we shuffle funds, expand long-term debt liabilities, and pass late night budget amendments that add millions in permanent payroll costs. 1584 02:15:14,080 --> 02:15:21,540 Then we turn around and ask our homeowners of the city to pick up the tap through higher property taxes. 1585 02:15:21,540 --> 02:15:31,200 We are told that our hands are tied because the state mandated veterans exemptions the drain that drain over 13 million annually from our taxpayer. 1586 02:15:31,720 --> 02:15:40,400 That revenue loss is a real significant hurdle, but the state shortfall does not use our own lack of internal spending discipline. 1587 02:15:40,400 --> 02:15:48,120 During past visex cycles, our city manager explicitly warned this body that the journal fund was stretched to 1588 02:15:48,120 --> 02:15:55,900 his absolute limit with zero room for extra spending. Yet the council still voted to tack on millions and late amendments. 1589 02:15:56,580 --> 02:16:08,320 Adding that extra 1% cola creating multiple unbudgeted administrative roles in prioritizing non-essential static projects like the million dollar bridge painting. 1590 02:16:08,320 --> 02:16:16,320 We cannot keep treating a permanent structural spending crisis as a temporary revenue problem. 1591 02:16:18,420 --> 02:16:25,580 Passing a budget that relies on squeezing local families up to a higher tax rate is unsustainable and unfair. 1592 02:16:26,680 --> 02:16:32,340 Fortunately, you have the immediate power to fix this without waiting for an lengthy charter election. 1593 02:16:32,340 --> 02:16:39,300 election. You can take the easy way by voting tonight to amend our act to financial governance policies. 1594 02:16:40,000 --> 02:16:45,020 I'm accessing this council to introduce the resolution to add to critical binding 1595 02:16:45,020 --> 02:16:52,820 safe guard rails to section V of our budget rules. First implement a strict pay as you go offset mandate. 1596 02:16:53,060 --> 02:17:00,380 If any council member wants to oppose a late stage budget addition or create a new municipal position, 1597 02:17:00,380 --> 02:17:07,140 They must legally identify and equally recurrent spending cut from a non-essential department 1598 02:17:07,140 --> 02:17:08,860 in the exact same vote. 1599 02:17:09,220 --> 02:17:13,180 No more adding unbutited costs out of the thin air. 1600 02:17:14,060 --> 02:17:19,280 Second, establish a automatic, unassigned, fun, balanced stabilizer. 1601 02:17:19,360 --> 02:17:26,540 If our emergency cast reserves drop below our mandated 18% floor and automatic physical freeze, 1602 02:17:26,540 --> 02:17:32,300 must trigger instantly. This will remove political discretion and immediately halt non-essential 1603 02:17:32,300 --> 02:17:40,500 city hiring out of state travel and discretionary civic contracts until our safety net is naturally 1604 02:17:40,500 --> 02:17:47,880 restored to 22%. With local elections approaching the city of Colleen are watching closely to 1605 02:17:47,880 --> 02:17:50,900 Who may have an additional minute, 1606 02:17:53,600 --> 02:17:53,960 please? 1607 02:17:54,000 --> 02:17:55,140 Yes, you may. 1608 02:17:55,540 --> 02:18:00,020 Watching closely, who will champion true taxpayer transparency? 1609 02:18:00,580 --> 02:18:06,420 Do not pass the buck to the voters or face a force us to use petition drive 1610 02:18:06,420 --> 02:18:08,920 to strip away your spending authority. 1611 02:18:09,500 --> 02:18:13,500 Use your legislative power right now to enforce structural balance. 1612 02:18:13,500 --> 02:18:26,460 And then our physical governance policy absorb our revenue shortfalls through internal administrative discipline and protect cling home on from future property tax heights. 1613 02:18:27,200 --> 02:18:42,500 I have attached through this thingy right here that I spoke with you about language that you can automatically insert or modify into our financial governance standards and the city secretary. 1614 02:18:42,500 --> 02:18:47,780 secretary has a copy of that. The 494. Thank you for your listening. 1615 02:18:52,460 --> 02:18:54,080 Thank you Madam City's Secretary. 1616 02:18:56,540 --> 02:18:59,680 There are no more speakers. Okay. 1617 02:19:03,130 --> 02:19:06,830 There's no more speakers than we will put the hearing 1618 02:19:06,830 --> 02:19:07,670 is closed. 1619 02:19:10,570 --> 02:19:13,930 All right. Madam City's Secretary, the next item, please. 1620 02:19:16,490 --> 02:19:18,090 Next item number 14. 1621 02:19:18,090 --> 02:19:28,850 O-R-2-6-016, consider an ordinance adopting the annual budget for the City of Killing for the fiscal year beginning October 1, 1622 02:19:28,930 --> 02:19:44,030 2026, an ending September 30, 2027, the ordinance caption reads, an ordinance approving an adopting a budget for the operating of the municipal government of the City of Killing for the fiscal year beginning on October 1, 1623 02:19:44,030 --> 02:19:51,770 2026, and ending on September 30, 2027, appropriating money for the various funds and purposes 1624 02:19:52,170 --> 02:19:58,470 of such budget, including appropriations of money to pay interest and principles, seeking 1625 02:19:59,330 --> 02:19:59,970 thinking fine. 1626 02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:06,640 Requirements on all indebtedness, providing a savings and civility clause, repealing all ordinances 1627 02:20:06,640 --> 02:20:11,860 and appropriations and conflict with the provisions of this ordinance and establishing an effective 1628 02:20:12,960 --> 02:20:13,600 date. 1629 02:20:15,440 --> 02:20:22,140 Thank you. Thank you, Councillor. Thank you, Mayor. This presentation is kind of brief, 1630 02:20:22,880 --> 02:20:29,900 straightforward. It's just to work you guys to to voting to the budget and tax rate. So as 1631 02:20:29,900 --> 02:20:34,880 You see the budget calendar, Mr. Kegu already are present here for the proposed tax rate. 1632 02:20:35,380 --> 02:20:39,780 Now, we're going to go to the ordinance to adopt the fiscal year 2017 budget 1633 02:20:39,780 --> 02:20:44,560 to identify the appropriate tax revenue increase and to set the tax rate. 1634 02:20:45,820 --> 02:20:48,420 And after that, we're going to look at the CIP. 1635 02:20:49,600 --> 02:20:53,160 The required order will be we're going to record both on budget first, 1636 02:20:53,240 --> 02:20:57,740 then we're going to ask you guys to verify the appropriate tax increase. 1637 02:20:57,740 --> 02:21:01,400 And then we're going to record the vote on certain tax rate. 1638 02:21:02,400 --> 02:21:09,660 This is the fiscal year 2017 proposed by just summary that includes the changes that we did in the prior meetings. 1639 02:21:11,680 --> 02:21:17,060 And this is just to record the vote on your budget for fiscal year 2017. 1640 02:21:22,490 --> 02:21:22,650 Questions? 1641 02:21:24,990 --> 02:21:25,910 Yes, Council. 1642 02:21:26,330 --> 02:21:27,050 May my best. 1643 02:21:31,960 --> 02:21:32,640 Thank you, Mayor. 1644 02:21:32,640 --> 02:21:38,100 As I have stated previously, I favor the no new revenue rate, however. 1645 02:21:39,060 --> 02:21:44,780 This budget presented by Mr. Cagel is a solid budget that will deliver the services our 1646 02:21:44,780 --> 02:21:46,820 residents expect and need. 1647 02:21:47,500 --> 02:21:54,560 I disagree with a few line items, but the budget itself is very professional, well-constructed 1648 02:21:54,560 --> 02:21:55,120 budget. 1649 02:21:55,400 --> 02:21:59,080 I will be voting yes on this really great product. 1650 02:21:59,520 --> 02:21:59,980 Thank you. 1651 02:21:59,980 --> 02:22:00,340 the 1652 02:22:06,220 --> 02:22:12,060 comments. Okay. On that case I will take a motion to consider the ordinance. 1653 02:22:15,120 --> 02:22:16,000 I'm sorry. 1654 02:22:22,970 --> 02:22:28,730 There's not a public hearing on the ordn on this ordinance, correct? There's a public hearing on the tax rate. 1655 02:22:31,070 --> 02:22:37,950 Which we already had? Tell some member. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Mayor Council. I'm moved to approval. 1656 02:22:39,200 --> 02:22:43,180 There are second. Council member Kentrix. 1657 02:22:44,560 --> 02:22:45,280 I second. 1658 02:22:46,020 --> 02:22:47,600 Okay. Is there any discussion? 1659 02:22:51,140 --> 02:22:53,700 We're in discussion council member Williams. 1660 02:22:56,200 --> 02:22:56,920 Okay. 1661 02:22:57,360 --> 02:23:01,720 There's no discussion all in favor of seeing the five by saying yes. 1662 02:23:02,420 --> 02:23:03,500 All opposed no. 1663 02:23:15,450 --> 02:23:17,090 The motion pass six. 1664 02:23:18,330 --> 02:23:20,530 We need to take a roll call vote on this. 1665 02:23:20,530 --> 02:23:30,200 So you're secretary. Yes, I can read that from from this if you'd prefer that instead of me calling the names 1666 02:23:30,450 --> 02:23:35,210 I think historically people if we can just go ahead and and to roll out with the we call the 1667 02:23:38,380 --> 02:23:39,780 David Bass 1668 02:23:41,860 --> 02:23:42,560 Yes 1669 02:23:42,560 --> 02:23:44,280 Melissa Brown 1670 02:23:45,200 --> 02:23:52,520 No, Jessica Gonzalez yes Anthony Kendrick yes Charles Kimball. Yes 1671 02:23:52,520 --> 02:23:56,740 Debbie Nash King and Beverly Ann Williams. 1672 02:23:57,360 --> 02:23:59,400 Yes. Thank you. 1673 02:24:06,100 --> 02:24:10,970 It has a six to zero. 1674 02:24:11,410 --> 02:24:13,210 Council member. 1675 02:24:14,210 --> 02:24:16,130 I mean, six to one. 1676 02:24:16,890 --> 02:24:20,190 Council member Brown opposing. 1677 02:24:21,530 --> 02:24:23,470 Okay. Is this thing a word? 1678 02:24:25,330 --> 02:24:31,130 Okay. The next item will be to verify the appropriate tax increase for local government code. 1679 02:24:31,130 --> 02:24:39,070 I wanted 2.007C, a separate boat is required to modify any property tax revenue increase over the prior year. 1680 02:24:39,570 --> 02:24:44,310 The total tax revenue increase is 1.70042,897. 1681 02:24:44,930 --> 02:24:49,610 And you can see the emino and INS are very down in here. 1682 02:24:50,030 --> 02:24:54,350 And now we wait for both to modify property tax increase. 1683 02:24:55,750 --> 02:24:59,970 Okay, I'm Council, I would take a motion. 1684 02:25:00,270 --> 02:25:18,060 Council member Kimber. Mr. Mayor, I move that the property tax rate being increased by the adoption of the tax rate of 0.7301, which is effectively at 3.5, 9% increase in the tax rate. 1685 02:25:19,690 --> 02:25:20,950 Can you say a second? 1686 02:25:21,330 --> 02:25:22,190 Council member Williams? 1687 02:25:22,790 --> 02:25:23,570 I seconded. 1688 02:25:24,830 --> 02:25:25,790 I will be in put discussion. 1689 02:25:28,150 --> 02:25:29,310 Council member Brown? 1690 02:25:33,020 --> 02:25:33,160 Yeah. 1691 02:25:34,000 --> 02:25:35,320 If there is no discussion, 1692 02:25:36,400 --> 02:25:38,720 Secretary Secretary will call please. 1693 02:25:50,000 --> 02:25:51,200 Council member Bass? 1694 02:25:51,860 --> 02:25:52,080 No. 1695 02:25:55,930 --> 02:25:56,750 Council member Brown? 1696 02:25:57,330 --> 02:25:57,370 No. 1697 02:26:00,180 --> 02:26:00,960 Council member Gonzalez? 1698 02:26:07,800 --> 02:26:08,880 Yes, thank you. 1699 02:26:10,670 --> 02:26:11,410 Council member Kendrick? 1700 02:26:11,890 --> 02:26:12,250 Yes. 1701 02:26:14,310 --> 02:26:15,110 Council member Kimble? 1702 02:26:15,430 --> 02:26:15,890 Yes. 1703 02:26:16,930 --> 02:26:18,470 Councilmember Nash King. 1704 02:26:20,010 --> 02:26:20,930 Councilmember Williams. 1705 02:26:27,410 --> 02:26:27,610 Okay. 1706 02:26:28,690 --> 02:26:29,730 Five to two. 1707 02:26:30,090 --> 02:26:31,630 Oh, she passed five to two. 1708 02:26:31,850 --> 02:26:32,470 Thank you, council. 1709 02:26:33,830 --> 02:26:34,050 Okay. 1710 02:26:34,250 --> 02:26:34,430 Is that 1711 02:26:39,300 --> 02:26:42,720 what's the right if I think we separate tax rate? 1712 02:26:43,120 --> 02:26:44,240 Now, this is detected. 1713 02:26:44,760 --> 02:26:45,640 That's tax rate. 1714 02:26:46,200 --> 02:26:46,200 Uh, 1715 02:26:48,260 --> 02:26:51,260 yes, ma'am. 1716 02:26:51,260 --> 02:26:51,660 I'm sorry. 1717 02:26:51,780 --> 02:26:52,280 Madam Secretary. 1718 02:26:52,820 --> 02:26:53,440 That's okay. 1719 02:26:53,860 --> 02:26:54,800 I was asked enough. 1720 02:26:55,100 --> 02:26:55,700 My apologies. 1721 02:26:56,220 --> 02:26:57,320 Item 16. 1722 02:26:57,320 --> 02:27:08,800 R-26-017, consider an ordinance, setting a tax rate of 0.7301 per $100 valuation, comprised 1723 02:27:08,800 --> 02:27:17,820 of 0.5562 for maintenance and operations, and 0.1739 for debt service for fiscal year 1724 02:27:17,820 --> 02:27:25,160 2027, tax year 2026 with ordinance caption reading and ordinance, setting the tax rate 1725 02:27:25,160 --> 02:27:28,900 and levying attacks upon all property, subject to taxation 1726 02:27:28,900 --> 02:27:37,800 within city limits of the city of Killing for the 2026 tax year 1727 02:27:37,800 --> 02:27:40,320 and for the use and support of the municipal government 1728 02:27:40,320 --> 02:27:44,780 of the city of Killing for the fiscal year beginning October 1, 2026 1729 02:27:44,780 --> 02:27:47,700 and ending September 30, 2027, 1730 02:27:48,320 --> 02:27:51,340 a portioning said levying among the various funds and items 1731 02:27:51,340 --> 02:27:53,460 for which the revenue must be raised, 1732 02:27:53,460 --> 02:28:01,780 including providing a sinking fund for the retirement of the bonded debt of the city and establishing an effect ever date. 1733 02:28:01,780 --> 02:28:02,540 Is anyone? 1734 02:28:03,240 --> 02:28:03,660 Yes. 1735 02:28:03,660 --> 02:28:04,460 Thank you. 1736 02:28:05,240 --> 02:28:06,960 This has to set the tax rate. 1737 02:28:06,960 --> 02:28:09,460 The total tax rate is 73.01. 1738 02:28:10,060 --> 02:28:14,740 That it will do a budget of revenue of 78.2 million. 1739 02:28:17,780 --> 02:28:21,660 You guys saw this as fly in the previous presentation. 1740 02:28:22,540 --> 02:28:29,860 This is an increase of 68, 48 dollars a year for a medium homestead value of 202, 1741 02:28:31,400 --> 02:28:32,040 1822. 1742 02:28:33,220 --> 02:28:39,360 This is in the tax rate for tax code 206.5B, if the tax rate exceeds, then on your revenue rate, 1743 02:28:39,680 --> 02:28:41,060 I record about as required. 1744 02:28:41,640 --> 02:28:51,460 I provide at least 60% of council by members and the motions last state and we have the 1745 02:28:51,460 --> 02:28:56,700 I'm going to come back to it and now I'll wait to record both on tax rate. 1746 02:28:59,680 --> 02:29:02,720 Okay, I'm here for a term. I'll take the motion to consider the ordinance. 1747 02:29:08,050 --> 02:29:16,030 I make a motion to approve. I'm sorry. I move that the property tax rate be increased by the adoption 1748 02:29:16,030 --> 02:29:26,350 of a tax rate of .7301 which is effectively a 3.59% increase in the tax rate. 1749 02:29:27,860 --> 02:29:32,580 was it can a council member Williamson? 1750 02:29:33,180 --> 02:29:34,460 That's second it. 1751 02:29:37,540 --> 02:29:40,340 Madam's second to I could take a roll call please. 1752 02:29:48,460 --> 02:29:49,340 Councilmember Bass. 1753 02:29:50,120 --> 02:29:50,280 No. 1754 02:29:51,860 --> 02:29:52,680 Councilmember Brown. 1755 02:29:54,180 --> 02:29:55,960 Councilmember Mayor Pro Tim Gonzalez. 1756 02:29:58,120 --> 02:29:59,000 Councilmember Kendrick. 1757 02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:11,460 Yes. Council member Kimble. Yes. Council member Nash King. Yes. Council member Williams. Yes. Motion passes five to two. 1758 02:30:13,280 --> 02:30:15,140 Thank you, council. Is that going? 1759 02:30:29,070 --> 02:30:42,930 Item 17. So I met him, secretary. 17? Item 17. R S-26-135. Consider a memorandum resolution to adopt the five year capital 1760 02:30:42,930 --> 02:30:47,870 program for fiscal year 2027 through 2031. 1761 02:30:50,080 --> 02:30:50,840 Yes, ma'am. 1762 02:30:51,060 --> 02:30:51,580 Thank you again. 1763 02:30:51,760 --> 02:30:55,340 This is this item is for fiscal year 2027 proposed CIP, 1764 02:30:56,100 --> 02:31:01,420 adoption of the fire capital improvement program for fiscal year 2027 to 2021. 1765 02:31:01,920 --> 02:31:05,600 This is our last item for the budget for 2027. 1766 02:31:08,250 --> 02:31:12,990 The background, the annual five years CIP required a capital project policies 1767 02:31:12,990 --> 02:31:19,730 It's based on master plans and departmental needs, new projects and additional funding for ongoing projects. 1768 02:31:20,850 --> 02:31:28,910 It has equipment vehicles, facilities, and infrastructures of our 100,000 and the projects summarized by type and fund asserts. 1769 02:31:29,030 --> 02:31:30,630 This is the CIP summary by type. 1770 02:31:30,890 --> 02:31:38,630 We have a total of 97 approaches that include vehicles and equipments with a total amount of 47.5 million. 1771 02:31:40,620 --> 02:31:45,940 This is the CIP summary. By funding source, we have government of CIP, CBDG, 1772 02:31:46,160 --> 02:31:52,000 bone funds, ABS and CIP in ground funds, water and sewer CIP, bone impact feed funds, 1773 02:31:52,260 --> 02:31:56,220 solid waste CIP fund, tiered fund, and drainage CIP fund. 1774 02:31:58,610 --> 02:32:00,290 This is the project funding by sources. 1775 02:32:01,030 --> 02:32:04,690 You can see we use in fund balance, grant reimbursement programs and bones. 1776 02:32:05,770 --> 02:32:09,390 In a recommendation, the city comes from a doctor, fire, capital improvement program 1777 02:32:09,390 --> 02:32:11,370 for fiscal year 2020, 2020, 2021. 1778 02:32:11,670 --> 02:32:14,110 I would be happy to answer any questions that may have. 1779 02:32:14,790 --> 02:32:15,230 Any questions? 1780 02:32:15,650 --> 02:32:16,530 Tell some member Kimball. 1781 02:32:20,840 --> 02:32:21,800 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 1782 02:32:22,400 --> 02:32:25,940 Mr. Tang, what are the projects for water 1783 02:32:25,940 --> 02:32:27,200 and sewer entrainage? 1784 02:32:27,200 --> 02:32:28,000 There's nine of them. 1785 02:32:28,020 --> 02:32:28,780 Do you know what they are? 1786 02:32:29,360 --> 02:32:32,960 We have the book posted and online. 1787 02:32:33,520 --> 02:32:36,300 I don't have the book right now with me. 1788 02:32:40,260 --> 02:32:41,040 Tell some member Kim Jong-un. 1789 02:32:46,810 --> 02:32:49,610 Mayor, I don't have a, for a say, question. 1790 02:32:49,610 --> 02:32:52,530 and I have a statement, can I make a statement? 1791 02:32:53,350 --> 02:32:53,950 You may? 1792 02:32:54,690 --> 02:32:58,870 OK, I want to say this, and I wanted to be on the record. 1793 02:33:01,090 --> 02:33:05,690 We talk about the things that we are trying to do for the citizens 1794 02:33:05,690 --> 02:33:11,270 and for the betterment of the citizens of Colleen. 1795 02:33:11,870 --> 02:33:17,210 And I find it very disheartening to sit here 1796 02:33:17,210 --> 02:33:25,870 we talk about the betterment of the city and I'm not complaining about which way you voted, 1797 02:33:27,110 --> 02:33:38,690 but some of these things we're talking about the citizens and honestly it's just me speaking 1798 02:33:40,210 --> 02:33:51,410 When people are planning on people's emotions and doing other things besides what is better for the betterment of the city. 1799 02:33:51,950 --> 02:34:00,670 And I feel I must make this statement for the simple fact that anything that I vote on I look at it and I make this statement. 1800 02:34:00,670 --> 02:34:10,370 I make the decision put a bit of the citizens not a political statement on one side of the other. 1801 02:34:10,830 --> 02:34:13,950 And I feel like some things were made that way tonight. 1802 02:34:14,770 --> 02:34:21,390 And it's very disheartening that we're not thinking about the citizens and the things that we need to do as a council 1803 02:34:21,390 --> 02:34:28,470 to ensure all of our citizens, not just the ones that think one way, but all of the citizens. 1804 02:34:28,470 --> 02:34:30,570 And that's all I have there. 1805 02:34:32,880 --> 02:34:33,100 Okay. 1806 02:34:34,880 --> 02:34:36,300 Council member Brown. 1807 02:34:37,820 --> 02:34:39,520 I'm going to bring us back to the agenda. 1808 02:34:39,760 --> 02:34:41,440 This is not a public hearing correct. 1809 02:34:43,650 --> 02:34:49,050 But that I moved to approve RS-26-135. 1810 02:34:51,720 --> 02:34:52,060 Okay. 1811 02:34:53,860 --> 02:34:55,080 We had a procedure for COVID. 1812 02:34:57,110 --> 02:34:57,310 Okay. 1813 02:34:57,830 --> 02:34:58,350 I apologize. 1814 02:34:58,390 --> 02:34:59,510 I'll send it to them. 1815 02:35:02,600 --> 02:35:11,120 Go ahead, motion is in and point, yes. So I moved to approve RS-26-135. 1816 02:35:14,000 --> 02:35:21,820 Is there a second council member Nash King? Is there a new discussion? Council member Kimble. 1817 02:35:22,140 --> 02:35:29,100 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I found the five eyes that I did look at. I just, just for the records, I know based on what council member 1818 02:35:29,100 --> 02:35:34,800 can't fix it. They were the, um, particularly when it comes to the long branch part improvements 1819 02:35:34,800 --> 02:35:39,820 things that we have talked about the low water crossing. Uh, we talked about water, the water, 1820 02:35:39,860 --> 02:35:44,400 uh, be the replacement that I brought up earlier, the 195. Those are all things that, again, 1821 02:35:44,520 --> 02:35:51,260 that all citizens could take advantage. I'm glad that when we look at, um, our five year, uh, 1822 02:35:52,360 --> 02:35:58,160 project and plans that we're looking at things that's really going to hopefully improve our water 1823 02:35:58,160 --> 02:36:01,080 So we're so, I found it. Thank you. 1824 02:36:03,060 --> 02:36:04,280 Is there any other discussion? 1825 02:36:05,660 --> 02:36:06,520 There's no other discussion. 1826 02:36:09,740 --> 02:36:10,540 Tell some of them about. 1827 02:36:13,110 --> 02:36:21,610 One point of clarification is the IP funds are not coming out of the FY27 tax dollars that we bring it in correct? 1828 02:36:22,530 --> 02:36:22,610 No. 1829 02:36:22,910 --> 02:36:26,710 The CIP funds are already in there for excess fund balance. 1830 02:36:26,710 --> 02:36:34,130 And then we have any leg vehicle replacement that is included in the budget already. 1831 02:36:34,730 --> 02:36:35,530 Thank you. 1832 02:36:35,530 --> 02:36:36,650 That's all I wanted to clarify. 1833 02:36:37,270 --> 02:36:37,910 Yes, ma'am. 1834 02:36:42,750 --> 02:36:43,010 Okay. 1835 02:36:43,350 --> 02:36:45,330 Councilor Mayor, approve, too. 1836 02:36:45,650 --> 02:36:46,610 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 1837 02:36:46,690 --> 02:36:49,350 It looks like we have a motion in a second on the floor to vote. 1838 02:36:49,630 --> 02:36:56,810 And consider the ordinance per tax code 26.050B. 1839 02:36:58,470 --> 02:37:03,770 If the tax rate exceeds the no new revenue rate, a record vote is required. 1840 02:37:04,570 --> 02:37:10,470 Approval, by at least 60% of the council, five members must state required wording. 1841 02:37:11,070 --> 02:37:15,670 That is, I move that property tax rate being increased by the adoption of the tax rate. 1842 02:37:16,290 --> 02:37:16,670 Oh, we heard it. 1843 02:37:17,110 --> 02:37:18,490 That's it. Thank you. 1844 02:37:19,450 --> 02:37:19,670 Council. 1845 02:37:21,250 --> 02:37:24,750 What would you like to do? 1846 02:37:24,750 --> 02:37:34,050 Okay, so all in papers tell some members asking yes, thank you Mr. Mayor I just have a quick question 1847 02:37:34,050 --> 02:37:40,180 When you said that the excess funds for this project I thought we had more than that 1848 02:37:41,410 --> 02:37:45,280 Well, what I'm trying to say was if you see 1849 02:37:46,560 --> 02:37:48,320 Let's see if I can make this work. 1850 02:37:48,640 --> 02:37:49,060 Thank you. 1851 02:37:49,380 --> 02:37:49,900 Let's see. 1852 02:37:50,660 --> 02:37:55,300 When you look at the CIP summary of our funding source, 1853 02:37:55,620 --> 02:37:59,660 we have more of a CIP there in the aviation CIP. 1854 02:37:59,780 --> 02:38:00,660 What is the CIP? 1855 02:38:01,080 --> 02:38:03,800 All those funds are funded by Exles Fund Balance. 1856 02:38:04,500 --> 02:38:07,340 So all the projects that are in there is Exles Fund Balance 1857 02:38:07,340 --> 02:38:08,680 on this fund. 1858 02:38:09,780 --> 02:38:12,480 But we do have all the projects like the replacement vehicles 1859 02:38:12,480 --> 02:38:16,700 where we brought for money in there for public safety. 1860 02:38:17,340 --> 02:38:18,460 Yes, ma'am. 1861 02:38:18,500 --> 02:38:19,440 Thank you. That's the part. 1862 02:38:19,620 --> 02:38:20,380 Okay. Thank you. 1863 02:38:25,550 --> 02:38:25,790 Yes. 1864 02:38:25,790 --> 02:38:29,970 There's no other discussion. All in favor of signify bus and yes, all opposed. 1865 02:38:37,590 --> 02:38:38,530 Motion passed 70. 1866 02:38:40,150 --> 02:38:41,270 Okay. Thank you. 1867 02:38:42,470 --> 02:38:43,590 Madam Secretary. 1868 02:38:45,730 --> 02:38:46,490 Discussion item. 1869 02:38:46,490 --> 02:38:56,310 Number 18, DS-26-07079, Discuss and Consider Scheduling a City Council retreat and team building workshop. 1870 02:38:59,090 --> 02:39:04,630 And thank you, Ms. Tenglin. Thank you for that presentation. Mr. Kagele? 1871 02:39:05,150 --> 02:39:14,930 Yes, our Mayor Council. The Mayor asked me about this to look into what it would take to have a council workshop team building. 1872 02:39:14,930 --> 02:39:19,070 and there was never any discussion from the mayor back going out of town. In fact, he had 1873 02:39:19,070 --> 02:39:26,990 already lined up some free space at CTC. What I did, I went back and looked back in 2021. 1874 02:39:27,710 --> 02:39:33,510 We had a proposal from Coleman and Associates to do the same thing and roughly stay 1875 02:39:33,510 --> 02:39:40,970 in town as well. No money going outside of town. What the mayor had discussed was a day or 1876 02:39:40,970 --> 02:39:46,390 a little less than a day. What we had back then was a day and a half plus additional time 1877 02:39:46,390 --> 02:39:51,370 from the moderator spending individual time with all the council members and so it was 1878 02:39:51,370 --> 02:39:57,510 much more involved and then that was about $12,000. If you want a moderator you could probably 1879 02:39:57,510 --> 02:39:59,970 do it for half or less. 1880 02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:07,340 Less than that. And I think in order to do what you probably need, and if you're going to do this, you need an outside moderator. 1881 02:40:08,160 --> 02:40:24,960 And I think one way to look at this is your board of directors of a company that has about 300 million in revenue every year, about 1400 employees, and you're responsible for the value of the private properties, about 15 or more billion. 1882 02:40:24,960 --> 02:40:33,540 And then another than hundreds of millions in public property, it's a very significant operation. 1883 02:40:34,040 --> 02:40:41,520 And I don't think there's anything wrong with trying to come together as a board to find out how you can work together to achieve goals. 1884 02:40:41,880 --> 02:40:51,920 If you do that, if you're more effective as a board and the organization is more effective, I think it's money very well spent, just my opinion. 1885 02:40:51,920 --> 02:41:00,260 But nothing was decided the mayor just wanted to put it out there to see what the council would like to do this and what I'm telling you as I think 1886 02:41:00,260 --> 02:41:02,820 That's about the cost and 1887 02:41:03,380 --> 02:41:05,960 Where the money would come from there there 1888 02:41:07,380 --> 02:41:12,000 If you do it in this year, we're under budget in the council's budget on 1889 02:41:15,060 --> 02:41:21,220 The hearing services we haven't been using that for quite some time probably the same thing next year 1890 02:41:21,220 --> 02:41:26,020 that would be my guess that I guess the first question would come where does that five or 1891 02:41:26,020 --> 02:41:32,100 six thousand dollars come from? Any case, Mayor, that's- 1892 02:41:32,100 --> 02:41:37,760 Yes, thank you. Thank you, Mr. Kegu, and I'd like to add to that again, it wasn't a one 1893 02:41:37,760 --> 02:41:44,400 of emphasize that it wasn't to be out of town or it wasn't supposed to be out of town 1894 02:41:44,400 --> 02:41:51,200 at all. It's just a day or half a day that Council that we can come together and 1895 02:41:51,980 --> 02:42:01,600 and we just allow us to, to, to, to team bill, you know, and to, um, we call it a retreat, and I guess when 1896 02:42:01,600 --> 02:42:08,300 you say retreat, you know, people want to make things that you're going out of town, um, it's, 1897 02:42:08,300 --> 02:42:14,620 um, something that can work, if we, if you wanted that, I just wanted to bring it up to you, 1898 02:42:14,620 --> 02:42:22,640 Council. If you want it, that's fine. If you don't, it's just fine. I just thought that would be a good idea. 1899 02:42:22,880 --> 02:42:31,840 Since we are pretty much new and we can just just get together and just team, though. 1900 02:42:32,200 --> 02:42:37,820 So I'm just hoping for a discussion on that. Council member Nash King. 1901 02:42:38,840 --> 02:42:41,400 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Council, I have several questions. 1902 02:42:41,400 --> 02:42:46,500 One of them is for Mr. Cago, and we bring all the council together. 1903 02:42:46,660 --> 02:42:50,840 Are we talking about a special meeting or is it open to the public? 1904 02:42:51,280 --> 02:42:54,840 It would be open to the public if you had it at CTC. 1905 02:42:54,980 --> 02:42:59,520 You would have a agenda that says the council retreat and team building activities, 1906 02:43:00,340 --> 02:43:01,380 and the public would be invited. 1907 02:43:02,560 --> 02:43:08,720 Yes, sir. And within my time, I do understand the purpose of having a retreat 1908 02:43:08,720 --> 02:43:16,440 trying to get us to do a team build and we did a lot of that in the military and there's not anything wrong with that 1909 02:43:16,440 --> 02:43:22,800 but from my perspective that we was elected by the people and we should conduct ourselves 1910 02:43:22,800 --> 02:43:28,500 what that happened to be told how to treat each other, respect each other and talk to each other 1911 02:43:29,300 --> 02:43:38,620 that's my stance on that because we represent the people so rather the council have a retreat or not 1912 02:43:38,720 --> 02:43:44,860 that's fine but I just think these are some things that we should do without another adult trying 1913 02:43:44,860 --> 02:43:53,220 to tell us how to conduct ourselves professionally in a municipality environment. Thank you. 1914 02:43:53,500 --> 02:43:54,500 Councilmember Brown. 1915 02:43:58,490 --> 02:44:03,530 I'm going to say that I loved the recommendation that came from or 1916 02:44:03,530 --> 02:44:11,050 citizen during comments of doing what sounds to me more like a field day in our local 1917 02:44:11,050 --> 02:44:17,990 park which could still be used for that team building and not bonding situation. I believe in the 1918 02:44:17,990 --> 02:44:21,670 military that would be called a mandatory fund day. 1919 02:44:25,110 --> 02:44:28,650 I really think it would be good for us. We 1920 02:44:28,650 --> 02:44:35,770 used it up here. We work, we argue, we go back and forth on a lot of this stuff. If we were 1921 02:44:35,770 --> 02:44:41,790 to do a field day with some family-friendly activities. I think it would be a great idea there, 1922 02:44:42,490 --> 02:44:47,270 but I like to do it a little bit bigger, so I would like to bring in some of our staff members 1923 02:44:47,270 --> 02:44:54,170 that want to participate. We have to work with the staff every day also, so why not have an 1924 02:44:54,170 --> 02:44:58,110 to need its team build with the staff as a council. 1925 02:44:59,650 --> 02:44:59,970 New Fits. 1926 02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:28,200 Clearly we would not make this mandatory. I don't think any of us up here are talking about mandating anything on to a fellow council members. But I will say this, that I would volunteer to be one of a member of a committee of council members that would plan this and even go out and talk to some of our local businesses to get sponsorships. 1927 02:45:28,200 --> 02:45:31,760 So that the net expense to the city would be none. 1928 02:45:32,620 --> 02:45:33,420 Thank you. 1929 02:45:35,190 --> 02:45:35,830 Thank you. 1930 02:45:36,190 --> 02:45:37,150 Councilmember Bess. 1931 02:45:39,390 --> 02:45:40,210 Thank you, Mayor. 1932 02:45:40,970 --> 02:45:49,490 My personal experience with these types of events were in the army and in the army, it was 1933 02:45:49,490 --> 02:45:52,290 just the unit, just the team. 1934 02:45:52,970 --> 02:45:57,670 And my experience with this serving on nonprofit boards. 1935 02:45:57,670 --> 02:46:01,970 Again, it was just the board, just the team. 1936 02:46:03,130 --> 02:46:08,650 I just don't see how we can do what I perceive as a retreat 1937 02:46:08,650 --> 02:46:11,890 under the open meetings at. 1938 02:46:13,670 --> 02:46:21,270 I just don't see how we can do that because it's more than just the team. 1939 02:46:21,270 --> 02:46:41,670 And my experience, the value was being able to speak very frankly to each other, being able to learn from each other and having observers, nothing against anybody who might show up, kind of changes the vibe of the event. 1940 02:46:42,370 --> 02:46:45,950 So I just don't see how we can do it. 1941 02:46:46,230 --> 02:46:50,770 As I perceive these retreats are intended to be. 1942 02:46:50,770 --> 02:46:52,010 Thank you. 1943 02:46:52,010 --> 02:46:52,890 Thank you, sir. 1944 02:46:53,710 --> 02:46:54,670 Councilmember Kimball. 1945 02:46:57,960 --> 02:46:59,060 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 1946 02:46:59,360 --> 02:47:02,300 Thank you, Mr. Kago, for your insight. 1947 02:47:03,720 --> 02:47:08,030 I got a problem with team building exercise, 1948 02:47:08,770 --> 02:47:14,190 but when you look at how this item even came about, 1949 02:47:14,810 --> 02:47:16,950 I didn't know we were going to be discussing this. 1950 02:47:17,430 --> 02:47:19,170 You know, this decision is kind of made in the vacuum, 1951 02:47:19,750 --> 02:47:21,910 kind of wish we had a little bit of head up about. 1952 02:47:22,350 --> 02:47:24,430 So we wouldn't even take any necessary criticism. 1953 02:47:24,430 --> 02:47:27,790 Are you going out of town? Are you going to Vegas? Are you going wherever whatever? 1954 02:47:27,990 --> 02:47:34,570 I mean, a lot of that could have been headed out tonight by a little communication and I 1955 02:47:35,670 --> 02:47:38,190 I just my personal opinion that 1956 02:47:41,510 --> 02:47:47,570 items that need the business of the city these that come first we have mechanisms to do that 1957 02:47:47,990 --> 02:47:52,570 I don't mean some fellow council members, you know, we went down to round rock, you know, disson things 1958 02:47:52,570 --> 02:47:56,410 Learned a lot. We learned off of each other. It's another profession. There are 1959 02:47:56,410 --> 02:48:02,810 mechanisms out there that's already in place, I plan on taking advantage of those so I can better 1960 02:48:02,810 --> 02:48:08,410 serve the citizens, you know, my relationship with my colleagues, I think that's going to 1961 02:48:08,410 --> 02:48:13,470 happen naturally and organically, I don't necessarily think a team build an exercise to go 1962 02:48:13,470 --> 02:48:18,950 with Councilman Bass, necessarily going to fulfill that. But I do, you know, looking to the senior 1963 02:48:18,950 --> 02:48:27,170 members up here in the Mayor Pro Tem, the Mayor, Councilwoman Nash King, and learn from the staff. 1964 02:48:27,850 --> 02:48:35,710 Those are my touch points, and I look forward to enjoying those things that are already offered. 1965 02:48:36,290 --> 02:48:38,890 But again, this decision was made in a vacuum, not without a team. 1966 02:48:39,390 --> 02:48:41,210 So just kind of ironic, we're talking about team building. 1967 02:48:41,930 --> 02:48:46,510 And we get the land bastard by the citizens today, because there was no input from us. 1968 02:48:47,210 --> 02:48:49,210 That's where I stand on it. I don't think it's necessary. 1969 02:48:50,510 --> 02:48:55,310 Okay, let me see this. This was not made in a vacuum for a 1970 02:48:55,310 --> 02:48:58,710 past money decision. Actually, I went to some of y'all. He 1971 02:48:58,710 --> 02:49:05,430 will afford some of you afford. So, it's okay. I really, it's okay. 1972 02:49:05,530 --> 02:49:11,490 I just wanted to bring it to the council. It's nothing secret about it. 1973 02:49:11,490 --> 02:49:18,890 just thought that we could for us to get together and and gel together talk find out about 1974 02:49:18,890 --> 02:49:25,750 one another we've done it up done it before in the council and it worked it worked and so it's 1975 02:49:25,750 --> 02:49:32,370 a different it's okay I just wanted to bring that to you appreciate your thoughts but I just wanted 1976 02:49:32,370 --> 02:49:41,470 to bring it for discussion in the future consensus so obviously the council does not want that 1977 02:49:41,470 --> 02:49:46,790 And I do understand, and I respect that, but Council, I just wanted to bring that to you. 1978 02:49:46,950 --> 02:49:52,170 That's all, to make it the fine ways that we can come together as a Council. 1979 02:49:53,110 --> 02:49:57,910 And I mean, we're doing good, but I just thought that would be, that would add to it. 1980 02:49:57,950 --> 02:49:59,970 Council, Council Mayor Potech. 1981 02:50:00,900 --> 02:50:29,720 Thank you. I do think it's important on different levels to have these sorts of conversations. I think that, to a couple of points, I love the idea of the community involvement in the field-day type activities, but I also believe that there's a need for strategic visioning. There's things that regarding our city, our direction of our city, our comprehensive plan, ensuring that new council members are understanding the vision and the goal overall of the city. 1982 02:50:30,000 --> 02:50:32,080 and also has it relates to us as district members, 1983 02:50:32,460 --> 02:50:33,640 and it's at large members. 1984 02:50:34,260 --> 02:50:36,480 We did away with the Group Town Hall 1985 02:50:36,480 --> 02:50:39,600 at the end of the New Election cycle. 1986 02:50:40,080 --> 02:50:42,040 So unfortunately for our community members, 1987 02:50:42,560 --> 02:50:44,560 it doesn't give them the opportunity to hear 1988 02:50:44,560 --> 02:50:46,340 where we're coming from, what our vision is, 1989 02:50:46,400 --> 02:50:49,460 for the city, for our districts, or for the city overall. 1990 02:50:49,860 --> 02:50:51,560 So I think that for strategic visioning, 1991 02:50:51,620 --> 02:50:52,520 it could be important. 1992 02:50:53,000 --> 02:50:54,780 I guess Mr. Kagle, we've never done this before. 1993 02:50:55,400 --> 02:50:56,540 So I've never done this before. 1994 02:50:56,820 --> 02:50:59,020 So if it were to happen, what does that look like 1995 02:50:59,020 --> 02:51:07,020 Council members pass this point, especially if it's an open meeting and you're trying to actually have a structured dialogue. 1996 02:51:07,860 --> 02:51:12,060 It would be an open meeting. Lots of cities do it. You do have to have an agenda. 1997 02:51:12,940 --> 02:51:17,460 But it would be fairly broad. You'd talk about goals and objectives for the city. 1998 02:51:17,760 --> 02:51:23,120 It would talk about team building the ways to communicate better the ways to work with each other better. 1999 02:51:23,580 --> 02:51:27,920 There would have to be an agenda, but this is done fairly regularly. 2000 02:51:27,920 --> 02:51:32,660 It's done regularly and as the comments are open to the public and then they provide people like just like a regular 2001 02:51:32,660 --> 02:51:36,660 Yes, man. I regular meeting. Okay. All right. I appreciate it. Thank you 2002 02:51:39,030 --> 02:51:41,070 Tell some member Brown 2003 02:51:42,920 --> 02:51:44,220 Just a second term. 2004 02:51:46,400 --> 02:51:48,760 I'm formulating to make sure I say this 2005 02:51:50,240 --> 02:51:55,180 As non offensively as possible and I do mean it with the utmost respect 2006 02:51:56,040 --> 02:51:56,520 but 2007 02:51:57,300 --> 02:52:02,160 If we're talking about planning and strategic planning and the team 2008 02:52:02,160 --> 02:52:09,640 There's nothing that we should be saying behind closed doors that we're not willing to say in public and front of everybody. 2009 02:52:12,540 --> 02:52:21,780 We shouldn't act one way just because nobody's eyes are on us and act another way because we're sitting on the dias and everyone can see us. 2010 02:52:22,420 --> 02:52:40,860 I'm not concerned about what happens if the public sees a team building because I think that it would be great for the public to see that each and every one of us is willing to extend our olive branches, put our hands out and say, 2011 02:52:40,860 --> 02:52:47,680 I'm ready to work together with you for the benefit of the future of the city of 2012 02:52:47,680 --> 02:52:51,880 Colleen that we've all been selected and elected to represent. 2013 02:52:53,240 --> 02:52:56,400 That's why I don't mind doing team building. 2014 02:52:58,200 --> 02:53:04,960 Really, if we went along with the concepts of doing team building exercises, you don't 2015 02:53:04,960 --> 02:53:07,220 do a whole lot of talking if you trust falling. 2016 02:53:07,220 --> 02:53:18,200 You don't do a whole lot of strategic talking if you're doing a three-legged race, which I will tell you I am at a severe disadvantage for us, so that's it isn't. 2017 02:53:18,300 --> 02:53:21,380 Wasn't thinking about me being on the council in my height difference. 2018 02:53:24,140 --> 02:53:26,540 Again, it's an opportunity to relax. 2019 02:53:26,800 --> 02:53:38,020 I think sometimes some of the tension that people might feel in the public is because all we're ever doing is having these very deep tense conversations. 2020 02:53:39,200 --> 02:53:44,280 people once they start having fun together and start relaxing you start seeing where people 2021 02:53:44,280 --> 02:53:49,860 have more in common. That's why I'm still supportive of the idea as long as we can do it 2022 02:53:49,860 --> 02:53:54,120 with sponsorships on city property not cost the citizens anything. 2023 02:53:56,850 --> 02:53:57,890 Councilmember Kinjigs. 2024 02:54:01,220 --> 02:54:04,280 Well, in my burning max for voice, I don't know if you already 2025 02:54:04,280 --> 02:54:09,260 it else. Hey, I'm okay with team building. 2026 02:54:12,600 --> 02:54:15,060 I could just say if I just 2027 02:54:15,060 --> 02:54:18,960 think sometimes if you team building, it would just say if you're going to have fun, 2028 02:54:19,040 --> 02:54:22,720 you're going to have fun with it. All right, well, I'm going to have fun with it a little bit 2029 02:54:22,720 --> 02:54:28,000 right now. I would love to do a team building so we could talk and kind of figure out 2030 02:54:28,000 --> 02:54:30,260 people talk too much. 2031 02:54:35,160 --> 02:54:44,800 So I'm all about the team building that way can find out what it is that 2032 02:54:44,800 --> 02:54:51,200 the other person may dislike about you or whatever. That's part of team building and to get the 2033 02:54:51,200 --> 02:54:56,560 get those things out. That's how you get them out. I told you I'm going to have a look fun with 2034 02:54:56,560 --> 02:54:59,980 to those that know me off the diet. 2035 02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:19,700 I'm a joke, I like to have fun and I talk smack. But on the same token, I can be serious about it. And I can understand where you come from. You can understand where I'm coming from. And maybe we can meet halfway and everything works out perfect. That's all I'm saying. 2036 02:55:23,030 --> 02:55:24,950 So we're going to go somewhere. 2037 02:55:31,990 --> 02:55:34,140 I'm on for retreats. 2038 02:55:35,110 --> 02:55:38,490 I've gone to a lot of retreats in the past. 2039 02:55:38,810 --> 02:55:42,250 And retreats are for to bring us together. 2040 02:55:42,330 --> 02:55:45,490 And we are to share any type of this 2041 02:55:45,490 --> 02:55:47,930 prepency of whatever that we have with each other. 2042 02:55:48,190 --> 02:55:50,030 But here is my issue here. 2043 02:55:50,750 --> 02:55:54,570 The very ones who's talking on the very ones who has the issues. 2044 02:55:55,690 --> 02:55:58,790 So my question would be when we have the retreat 2045 02:55:58,790 --> 02:56:03,330 What we really come together and that's my thing is that we need to come together 2046 02:56:03,330 --> 02:56:10,750 We need to come together. So we could make sound decisions for our city and community and for our citizens 2047 02:56:11,810 --> 02:56:20,110 And the hostile environment. Yes, it's here. It's a hostile environment because it goes deeper than what we say in up here 2048 02:56:20,110 --> 02:56:23,570 Some of the wounds are deeper. I don't have the getting to 2049 02:56:24,930 --> 02:56:31,730 what they are or how deep they are but they are deep. And so I think that we are 2050 02:56:31,730 --> 02:56:37,730 grown enough or mature enough to say, to not to be selfish and say, okay, I'll 2051 02:56:37,730 --> 02:56:42,810 lay those down. I mean, is that too much to ask that you just can lay down 2052 02:56:42,810 --> 02:56:47,010 yourself as ways and the way that you feel about each other, for the best of the 2053 02:56:47,010 --> 02:56:52,030 community, it breaks my heart. And I'm being real at night, it breaks my heart, to 2054 02:56:52,030 --> 02:56:57,170 We are growing and we are adults and we cannot get along even for the city 2055 02:56:59,380 --> 02:57:01,440 and make sound decisions for the city 2056 02:57:01,440 --> 02:57:05,740 So if we're going to have a retreat let's have a real retreat 2057 02:57:06,240 --> 02:57:09,820 Let's have a retreat to where for real we're going to come together 2058 02:57:09,820 --> 02:57:12,180 We're going to lay down our animosity 2059 02:57:13,040 --> 02:57:19,240 We're going to lay down all of the problems and the issues that we have against each other because they go deep 2060 02:57:20,060 --> 02:57:27,400 and get along. So that we can be effective as a council. That's my part. 2061 02:57:30,060 --> 02:57:34,480 Councilmember Nushkin. Thank you, Mr. Murders. This is my second time. 2062 02:57:35,120 --> 02:57:43,400 As I stated earlier, a retreat is fine. However, an individual has to make a choice. 2063 02:57:43,840 --> 02:57:51,620 Councilwoman Brown and I extended all of branches to each other with that happen to go to a retreat. 2064 02:57:51,620 --> 02:57:58,220 with that happen to have someone to come in and tell us and this happened because we made a 2065 02:57:58,220 --> 02:58:04,760 choice that we are wanted to work together. Matter of fact we have a project that we're working 2066 02:58:04,760 --> 02:58:11,980 on now that you were here about in the future. So if I got to have an adult to tell me right 2067 02:58:11,980 --> 02:58:17,180 from wrong and when we should be telling our kids right from wrong and our grandkids right from 2068 02:58:17,180 --> 02:58:23,220 a retreat is not going to change your character, the person, that's an individual who they are. 2069 02:58:23,560 --> 02:58:25,880 You have to have a wheel to want to change. 2070 02:58:26,660 --> 02:58:30,680 So trying to dig in why you like me, you don't like me, that's child's play. 2071 02:58:31,120 --> 02:58:34,540 What you need to do is separate that when you get on the diet. 2072 02:58:34,900 --> 02:58:36,160 One, don't end the ruptured. 2073 02:58:36,780 --> 02:58:39,640 Two, don't make flour and marks about each other. 2074 02:58:39,880 --> 02:58:45,200 It's just simple, petty stuff that we can do, set our own self reflection. 2075 02:58:45,200 --> 02:58:52,120 And once we realized that we can work together on our own and try to test it to see if it works, 2076 02:58:52,400 --> 02:58:58,480 taking account of building for our self and our action, we won't be having to discourage our retreat. 2077 02:58:58,920 --> 02:59:04,380 But it's an individual choice, and that's what we have free wheel that was given to everyone 2078 02:59:04,380 --> 02:59:11,360 to do right, respect, and love each other. And if you choose not to do it, a retreat is not going to change your character overnight. 2079 02:59:11,980 --> 02:59:18,240 I can honestly say I look forward to working with Council Member Brian on the project that is 2080 02:59:18,240 --> 02:59:23,160 of the good of the residents that we serve and you will be here from us. 2081 02:59:23,740 --> 02:59:24,460 Thank you. 2082 02:59:27,100 --> 02:59:29,700 Thank you. 2083 02:59:30,680 --> 02:59:34,880 And what we're experiencing right now is actually the purpose of what I feel is the purpose 2084 02:59:34,880 --> 02:59:40,120 of retreat, which would be against strategic visioning and, again, understanding or communication 2085 02:59:40,120 --> 02:59:40,760 styles. 2086 02:59:40,760 --> 02:59:44,940 that causes a lot of what the discord is that's been referenced across the aisle. 2087 02:59:44,980 --> 02:59:48,720 So I do think it is important. It's not about changing character, but it's about learning 2088 02:59:48,720 --> 02:59:54,160 communication styles and how to best communicate effectively. Mr. Cagle, should we decide to do 2089 02:59:54,160 --> 02:59:59,980 something like this? Who sets the agenda for that? And do we set the agenda and then that topics that we 2090 03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:09,740 Would you like to have moderate it? Sure, a couple of ways you can do it. The mayor could set it. You could have an agenda item in a future council meeting where you set your agenda. 2091 03:00:10,980 --> 03:00:11,820 Thank you. 2092 03:00:16,320 --> 03:00:27,420 Okay. Well, council, I thank you for the discussion. I appreciate that. We will move on to citizens comments, non agenda items. 2093 03:00:27,420 --> 03:00:33,440 It's time for citizen comments on items that are not listed on the agenda. 2094 03:00:34,240 --> 03:00:38,600 For the meeting tonight, citizens will have three minutes to speak. 2095 03:00:39,180 --> 03:00:44,860 Comments on the dissection are limited to the first 10 members of the public to sign 2096 03:00:44,860 --> 03:00:46,600 a sign of the speak. 2097 03:00:47,960 --> 03:00:53,380 Mayor and Council will not discuss items that are not on the agenda. 2098 03:00:53,380 --> 03:01:01,960 nor respond other than response, but then possible offer a brief statement or Pacific 2099 03:01:01,960 --> 03:01:10,260 factual information or proposed to place an item on the agenda for a future meeting. 2100 03:01:10,640 --> 03:01:12,820 Madam City Secretary, please call them. 2101 03:01:14,420 --> 03:01:15,760 We have four speakers. 2102 03:01:17,260 --> 03:01:19,280 Our speaker is Michael Furnino. 2103 03:01:19,280 --> 03:01:20,160 This 2104 03:01:35,260 --> 03:01:36,380 is kind of... 2105 03:01:37,520 --> 03:01:43,880 DevTails off of what the mayor was just talking about earlier and several of you about communication, which I didn't know was going to come up. 2106 03:01:44,020 --> 03:01:47,680 And I put that on on my form to speak for this topic. 2107 03:01:49,120 --> 03:01:54,560 First off, when it comes to communication, I'm noticing a switch to a different email account. 2108 03:01:54,940 --> 03:02:01,860 I put read receipts, and I'm astounded as to how many of you, especially you, Mr. Mayor, don't actually read my emails. 2109 03:02:01,860 --> 03:02:04,800 nor do any of you respond to my emails? 2110 03:02:08,290 --> 03:02:09,470 Well, the exception of you. 2111 03:02:09,770 --> 03:02:13,770 I've got one response, but there again, 2112 03:02:14,110 --> 03:02:15,990 when it comes to transparency and accountability, 2113 03:02:16,830 --> 03:02:18,890 you just voted to spend a lot of our money. 2114 03:02:21,010 --> 03:02:24,750 And my general theme on accountability on this is, 2115 03:02:24,890 --> 03:02:26,370 where I said, tighten up your budgets, 2116 03:02:26,610 --> 03:02:29,630 you voted to grab our money, so now you have our money 2117 03:02:29,630 --> 03:02:31,730 hostage for the next fiscal year, 2118 03:02:31,730 --> 03:02:41,490 in the word as fiscal, not physical, as you have that all the choices from here forward is a reflection 2119 03:02:41,490 --> 03:02:47,650 of what you've committed to. I would suggest I many others have had this conversation from time 2120 03:02:47,650 --> 03:02:54,210 to time over the years we've noticed that members of staff present all of these things are about 2121 03:02:54,210 --> 03:02:58,790 80% done and then they're looking for funding to get it done and approve and all that and we the 2122 03:02:58,790 --> 03:03:06,230 people, never got any heads up on what it was, and I'm getting tired of that. I really am. 2123 03:03:06,670 --> 03:03:11,730 I mean, I'm not saying that the staff shouldn't be doing any work, but how about we get a list 2124 03:03:11,730 --> 03:03:18,290 of what do the people want spent? What projects do we prioritize? Maybe meet somewhere in the middle 2125 03:03:18,290 --> 03:03:25,030 on that. But this, oh, well, the staff work really hard and the job's 90% done, and they just need 2126 03:03:25,030 --> 03:03:30,570 final approval from you, or I'm from, I'm going to ask, who asked you to start this job 2127 03:03:30,570 --> 03:03:35,590 meaninglessly, anyway? I mean, you should be driving the staff's task, not the other way around. 2128 03:03:36,130 --> 03:03:37,150 Who works for whom? 2129 03:03:39,380 --> 03:03:45,340 You boss, they employ. That's that's relationship that is long since 2130 03:03:45,340 --> 03:03:50,580 been forgotten around here. You drive the agenda, you drive the priorities. I mean, you gear it 2131 03:03:50,580 --> 03:03:54,280 for us, one where the other, what we see in the streets, 2132 03:03:54,740 --> 03:03:58,160 not getting repaved, projects not getting done. 2133 03:03:58,440 --> 03:04:01,120 But again, you need to be driving the agenda. 2134 03:04:02,320 --> 03:04:03,560 You need to be setting the priorities. 2135 03:04:06,400 --> 03:04:08,860 Dial the clock back, the grocery store issue. 2136 03:04:09,260 --> 03:04:10,820 You're supposed to be driving EDC. 2137 03:04:10,980 --> 03:04:12,720 We just kept throwing money at them. 2138 03:04:13,040 --> 03:04:14,400 Don't worry, you've bothered to follow up, 2139 03:04:14,520 --> 03:04:15,260 took it on faith. 2140 03:04:16,040 --> 03:04:16,980 Where are we with that? 2141 03:04:19,270 --> 03:04:23,210 I've had conversation with council member 2142 03:04:23,210 --> 03:04:27,470 about the grocery store even prior to all of that, but think about what you're going to do with 2143 03:04:27,470 --> 03:04:31,650 our money that if you have it, be responsible, be fiscally responsible. 2144 03:04:36,140 --> 03:04:36,920 Madam City Secretary. 2145 03:04:39,020 --> 03:04:41,760 Next speaker is Dr. Sue Nisey Croft. 2146 03:04:54,210 --> 03:04:59,970 Council Member City Manager, KDC, and Fellow Citizens, for years we have 2147 03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:05,900 We have talked about the need for the grocery store on the north side of Colleen. The city council has already 2148 03:05:05,900 --> 03:05:12,920 getting KDC directive to prioritize bringing that grocery store to North Colleen. Today, something different 2149 03:05:12,920 --> 03:05:22,180 is happening. The citizens aren't waiting, we are organizing. On Saturday, September 5th from 1 to 3 p.m., North Colleen residents will 2150 03:05:22,180 --> 03:05:27,940 the first official steering committee meeting for the North Side Cooperative Market, a community 2151 03:05:27,940 --> 03:05:33,260 different effort to explore building a sustainable grocery solution for North Colleen. 2152 03:05:34,000 --> 03:05:40,580 More than 2,500 people viewed our initial announcement and 25 plus clean residents have already 2153 03:05:40,580 --> 03:05:47,120 volunteered to help do the work. Tonight I would like to publicly invite KDC City staff members 2154 03:05:47,120 --> 03:05:53,260 and this council of community organization and business leaders, potential partners and 2155 03:05:53,260 --> 03:05:56,920 interested residents to attend our September to 5th meeting. 2156 03:05:57,380 --> 03:05:59,840 This is not about competing with KADC. 2157 03:06:00,160 --> 03:06:01,380 It's about collaboration. 2158 03:06:02,620 --> 03:06:08,580 KADC has given a direct, has been given a directive to help bring a grocery store to 2159 03:06:08,580 --> 03:06:09,740 Northside Colleen. 2160 03:06:10,260 --> 03:06:15,940 The citizens have independently organized around that same objective, so perhaps it's time 2161 03:06:15,940 --> 03:06:20,400 with those two efforts to meet instead of KDC working on one side 2162 03:06:20,400 --> 03:06:22,720 and the citizens working on the other. 2163 03:06:23,140 --> 03:06:25,240 Let's sit at the same table and ask. 2164 03:06:25,480 --> 03:06:28,500 One can KEDC, the city, the business community, 2165 03:06:28,740 --> 03:06:31,620 and the people of North Colleen accomplish together 2166 03:06:31,620 --> 03:06:34,680 that none of us have been able to accomplish separately. 2167 03:06:35,680 --> 03:06:38,980 Our first steering committee meeting will be held Saturday, 2168 03:06:39,080 --> 03:06:41,620 October to fifth from 1 to 3 p.m. 2169 03:06:41,620 --> 03:06:47,140 at the New Life Village Suite B. Thank you Mayor for putting together that 2170 03:06:47,740 --> 03:06:51,300 faith event I did connect with them during that time. 2171 03:06:52,520 --> 03:06:59,280 At 704, the East Vet Trans Memorial Boulevard in Colleen, we aren't coming to that meeting 2172 03:06:59,280 --> 03:07:05,540 claiming to have all the answers. We're coming prepared to work and we're inviting everyone who has 2173 03:07:05,540 --> 03:07:14,280 a legitimate interest in finally solving North-Cling grocery access problem to come work with us. 2174 03:07:14,280 --> 03:07:19,020 And I hope to see interest parties there so that we can move this forward. 2175 03:07:19,640 --> 03:07:20,700 I thank you. 2176 03:07:25,990 --> 03:07:27,350 Councilmember Nushkin. 2177 03:07:28,110 --> 03:07:29,570 Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Council. 2178 03:07:30,010 --> 03:07:38,490 I just wanted to add to that Dr. Fallima Brown Minister Fallima Brown started a co-op working 2179 03:07:38,490 --> 03:07:45,510 with the city council and also with Mr. Cago and he has already laid the foundation for 2180 03:07:45,510 --> 03:07:52,450 co-op. He acts for people too and I think maybe this was a year ago and I know I spoke 2181 03:07:52,450 --> 03:07:57,950 to him recently when this came up maybe last month and he stated that there are continued 2182 03:07:57,950 --> 03:08:02,810 looking for people to join. So one of the recommendations was 2183 03:08:02,810 --> 03:08:09,170 good. I think that's all. So I just want to remind this is a 2184 03:08:09,530 --> 03:08:13,410 consistent comments on non agenda items and so any statement should 2185 03:08:13,410 --> 03:08:16,910 be a very brief factual in response to a question, but not a 2186 03:08:16,910 --> 03:08:23,850 discussion or anything. I'm just giving a recommendation. Let me cut 2187 03:08:23,850 --> 03:08:30,090 It's short, then. Mr. Fallen Brown started it and I would reach out to him to see how far he's 2188 03:08:30,090 --> 03:08:34,150 gotten. Thank you. Madam City Secretary. 2189 03:08:35,090 --> 03:08:36,770 Next speaker is Anka Nega. 2190 03:08:42,260 --> 03:08:42,880 Thank you, Council. 2191 03:08:45,000 --> 03:08:52,200 I'm here on behalf of several citizens that reach out to me for help. One of them is the owner, 2192 03:08:52,200 --> 03:09:02,420 Gizmo and I pull out open records and I saw the email from Mr. Cagel that he sent to you in response to that article 2193 03:09:03,260 --> 03:09:15,540 And Mr. Cagel says that for owners that cannot afford the impound and boarding fees, we work out payment arrangements through municipal court. That's excellent except 2194 03:09:15,540 --> 03:09:22,980 They don't do that. Mr. Kagels telling you that they do that. They don't. Gizmo was not. 2195 03:09:23,900 --> 03:09:27,620 He's most owner was not off for that. They flat out refused. 2196 03:09:28,360 --> 03:09:32,060 She had no idea they were going to charge her that high of a fee. 2197 03:09:32,320 --> 03:09:34,740 They flat out refused to give the dog back. 2198 03:09:35,080 --> 03:09:37,920 And then they gave her the wrong information and of course. 2199 03:09:38,600 --> 03:09:44,360 And so they kept the dogs several days longer and then they gave it for free to rescue. 2200 03:09:44,360 --> 03:09:51,300 So they didn't even collect a fee. Just a day I was contacted by the owners of some 2201 03:09:51,300 --> 03:09:59,360 pets that they were saved by the help of the police department from a house fire at 2202 03:09:59,360 --> 03:09:59,960 on Brando. 2203 03:10:01,560 --> 03:10:19,540 And if you can find out who the police officer is, they were very grateful for the help they got. Brando Lane, lot 194. The police make sure that the animals are, well, one pet didn't make it, but the others made it, they were taking to the shelter. 2204 03:10:20,680 --> 03:10:27,700 and several days later the shelter made them pay six hundred six hundred sixty dollars 2205 03:10:27,700 --> 03:10:34,600 which they didn't have. They're extremely desperate. Again they were not offered payment 2206 03:10:34,600 --> 03:10:42,260 arrangements. They were going to keep the pets. So I'm not sure what Mr. Cagle is saying 2207 03:10:42,260 --> 03:10:46,880 when he's telling you, and someone's great, except it's not true. 2208 03:10:50,900 --> 03:10:56,520 So in the first case, okay, Gizmo got out, it's the owner's fault, I understand. 2209 03:10:56,920 --> 03:11:04,660 In this case, the house burned down how cruel do you have to be to say, look, do 2210 03:11:04,660 --> 03:11:12,040 bad, you give us money, or you lose your pets, and after the police were so kind and 2211 03:11:12,040 --> 03:11:20,400 So nice to these people, and then they go to the shelter and boom, their desperate, desperate, 2212 03:11:20,440 --> 03:11:25,940 even now they just can't believe that the shelter would do that to them. 2213 03:11:26,260 --> 03:11:33,120 And the same with Gizmo, they had so many opportunities to give that animal back to the owner. 2214 03:11:33,740 --> 03:11:34,620 Very easy. 2215 03:11:34,900 --> 03:11:37,080 And they knew that they wanted the dog back. 2216 03:11:37,080 --> 03:11:43,220 I understand they did something you're you're correct, but doesn't mean you confiscate the animal 2217 03:11:44,020 --> 03:11:49,200 Just find them, but not like flat out confiscate. Thank you 2218 03:11:54,300 --> 03:12:02,520 Mr. Mayor the next speaker is our online speaker. Excuse me just for a minute. Council member Kimball 2219 03:12:03,940 --> 03:12:05,620 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Mr. 2220 03:12:07,560 --> 03:12:21,310 As a matter of fact, to stay within the guidelines, can you find out how often the court provides owners of dogs that are taken to pay the fees as part of the court finds? 2221 03:12:22,350 --> 03:12:22,550 Thank you, 2222 03:12:25,530 --> 03:12:25,530 sir. 2223 03:12:25,810 --> 03:12:26,550 Madam Chair, Secretary. 2224 03:12:28,270 --> 03:12:32,550 Mr. Mayor, the next speaker is Heather McMillan. 2225 03:12:36,730 --> 03:12:37,650 Good evening, Congressman. 2226 03:12:38,270 --> 03:12:38,710 Thank you. 2227 03:12:39,590 --> 03:12:45,170 good evening council. So I really had no intentions to speak again this 2228 03:12:45,170 --> 03:12:50,570 evening, but something was brought up about code enforcement and the 2229 03:12:50,570 --> 03:12:55,710 connect app. So I feel this would be a good time to address the issue and I 2230 03:12:55,710 --> 03:13:01,010 want to thank you allow for me to do so via Zoom. The corporate role, the 2231 03:13:01,010 --> 03:13:05,650 councilwoman spoke of in my name is in my neighborhood and the councilman 2232 03:13:05,650 --> 03:13:12,670 said we have an app, you are current. And yes, I've used it and reported that 2233 03:13:12,670 --> 03:13:17,710 Carport role that the councilwoman spoke of along with a trailer on the street 2234 03:13:17,710 --> 03:13:25,310 debris in a yard and broken sidewalks many times on that and guess what? That 2235 03:13:25,310 --> 03:13:29,570 carpet is still there on that sidewalk two years later after being recorded 2236 03:13:29,570 --> 03:13:36,610 repeatedly. So I'm flowing, quote enforcement under the bus. I have spoken to 2237 03:13:36,610 --> 03:13:40,250 code enforcement about this situation when they came out to a different home 2238 03:13:40,250 --> 03:13:44,710 in my neighborhood and he said the cart pretty well is of his department. I 2239 03:13:44,710 --> 03:13:49,150 needed a contact solid waste apartment. The trailer is the police departments 2240 03:13:49,150 --> 03:13:54,530 issue. The broken sidewalk is public works department. So I needed to contact 2241 03:13:54,530 --> 03:14:01,730 them. So, now that I just said that, I now need to contact four different departments. 2242 03:14:03,750 --> 03:14:09,650 Why are these departments communicating with each other? The app isn't working and now it's 2243 03:14:09,650 --> 03:14:16,570 the citizens' responsibility to be doing all of that, contacting four departments under one 2244 03:14:16,570 --> 03:14:23,210 complaint at one location. What is the point of code enforcement and this app for? If it's not being 2245 03:14:23,210 --> 03:14:28,130 utilize properly. Please look into the workings of the app and the cross 2246 03:14:28,130 --> 03:14:32,230 communication of departments instead of passing it on to citizens to tackle it and 2247 03:14:32,230 --> 03:14:37,190 have to reach out to everybody. Also, I must note, it was reported through a 2248 03:14:37,190 --> 03:14:41,450 councilwoman's city email on that app and it was finally partially addressed 2249 03:14:41,450 --> 03:14:46,610 yet that corporate role is still there today. So how does it look to me as a 2250 03:14:46,610 --> 03:14:50,970 citizen that I can also remember gets action before a citizen on the same 2251 03:14:50,970 --> 03:14:59,970 complaint that I've been filing for over two years. I would like you all to consider this item on the agenda for future meetings to find some 2252 03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:12,140 Pollutions on the communication disconnections between departments and the apps. And the use of the distribution of this information to the departments and how it effectively could make things better for the staff and citizens. 2253 03:15:13,120 --> 03:15:19,440 We should not be having to be contacting every department and there's no direction for us to do so. 2254 03:15:19,440 --> 03:15:26,420 Also, I'll point out that code enforcement officer has only been in my neighborhood in three times in two years. 2255 03:15:27,340 --> 03:15:34,040 And there is violations they never drive around, especially when we're paying extra money to have them there. 2256 03:15:34,560 --> 03:15:38,420 So again, please put this on your agenda features. 2257 03:15:39,240 --> 03:15:39,620 Thank you. 2258 03:15:42,360 --> 03:15:42,700 Thank you. 2259 03:15:45,520 --> 03:15:46,720 City Secretary. 2260 03:15:49,550 --> 03:15:52,690 The final speaker is Leo Gugaisen. 2261 03:16:00,830 --> 03:16:03,250 Good evening again, Mr. Mayor. Madam Mayor. 2262 03:16:03,550 --> 03:16:05,630 Council Member City Manager. 2263 03:16:06,770 --> 03:16:10,410 I wasn't really going to speak this evening about anything on this matter, 2264 03:16:11,170 --> 03:16:16,870 but after the last item on the agenda and the discussion that was made 2265 03:16:16,870 --> 03:16:21,350 by all parties, I have to admit that was pretty darn good. 2266 03:16:23,850 --> 03:16:29,470 Every spoke to a piece about this retreat, or whatever it was going to be called, work 2267 03:16:29,470 --> 03:16:30,470 shop, whatever. 2268 03:16:31,530 --> 03:16:36,290 Because I remember in the late days back when we were across the street over there at the 2269 03:16:36,290 --> 03:16:44,190 utility collection office, two sitting council members stand up, and we're going to fight each 2270 03:16:44,190 --> 03:16:49,530 other right there in front of them, God hadn't country there, you know, and he talked about 2271 03:16:49,530 --> 03:16:54,930 embarrassment and actually another thing is going on but I have to admit and I might be getting 2272 03:16:54,930 --> 03:17:03,730 soft to my old age but please don't repeat that. What I saw just that one little discussion, 2273 03:17:04,870 --> 03:17:12,970 you know that is what we need more of open discussion and I have to agree with one part of the 2274 03:17:12,970 --> 03:17:18,170 body that we don't need a dog. We're adults. We don't need another adult to tell us how to do things. 2275 03:17:18,170 --> 03:17:25,170 we should know that by now, we're all up there, we've all retired from one of two jobs already. 2276 03:17:26,290 --> 03:17:34,510 We have the experience. It's just getting together and willing to talk about openly on what's going on. 2277 03:17:34,970 --> 03:17:41,130 And I think that I really surprised at that last item of discussion where it was open. 2278 03:17:41,130 --> 03:17:52,090 Everybody spoke through mine, no one got their feelings hurt, there was no repeat of that one incident where two council members wanted to fight back there in front of everybody. 2279 03:17:53,750 --> 03:18:04,970 One party admitted that they have extended an olive branch to another party and they are working together on a project, which is good, that's the way it should be. 2280 03:18:04,970 --> 03:18:11,430 That's what we need. That's what we, the people want to see. We don't want to see a pair of 2281 03:18:11,430 --> 03:18:18,870 our representatives arguing with each other. That's not the image we want to see, and that's what 2282 03:18:18,870 --> 03:18:24,190 sets a bad tone to people who have said in the past, they don't come to these meetings because 2283 03:18:24,190 --> 03:18:30,150 everybody argues amongst themselves. But I just want to say congratulations and if I was wearing 2284 03:18:30,150 --> 03:18:36,290 had I would take it off to y'all for that last item there. How y'all handled that and what y'all said. 2285 03:18:37,310 --> 03:18:41,550 I think that was that was real good and that's what I would like to see more of and I'm sure 2286 03:18:41,550 --> 03:18:46,790 other residents would like to see more of that too. And again thank you for your time and y'all have a good 2287 03:18:46,790 --> 03:18:48,390 evening. Thank you sir. 2288 03:18:50,830 --> 03:18:55,290 There are no more speakers. Thank you City Secretary thank you for your help. 2289 03:18:55,870 --> 03:19:03,290 Council member Nash King. Mr. Mayor, there's no more discussion. I like to make a motion to adjourn. 2290 03:19:04,370 --> 03:19:05,390 Is there a second? 2291 03:19:08,310 --> 03:19:08,550 Is there a second? 2292 03:19:11,050 --> 03:19:13,370 Okay, second by mapo Jim, may I all in favour? 2293 03:19:14,010 --> 03:19:14,490 Aye. 2294 03:19:16,700 --> 03:19:18,840 Okay. Yes, ma'am. I'm coming.