1 00:00:01,620 --> 00:00:09,700 All right, we're going to call this meeting to order at 609 p.m. on December 11, 2025, please stand for the pledge of allegiance. 2 00:00:09,700 --> 00:00:10,300 I 3 00:00:16,220 --> 00:00:17,020 think that's it. 4 00:00:17,020 --> 00:00:18,960 I'm going to do a public 5 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:23,140 to stand on the mission of the car in this 6 00:00:23,140 --> 00:00:23,660 world. 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,240 Like the 8 00:00:29,630 --> 00:00:31,010 minutes reflect that 9 00:00:31,630 --> 00:00:32,870 all council members are present 10 00:00:32,870 --> 00:00:35,450 and council member Mendeau has been 11 00:00:35,450 --> 00:00:36,130 excuse. 12 00:00:38,530 --> 00:00:40,390 We recognize that the city of the cross 13 00:00:40,390 --> 00:00:42,150 occupies the land of the Hachung people. 14 00:00:42,490 --> 00:00:44,350 Please take a moment to celebrate and honor the 15 00:00:44,350 --> 00:00:47,270 assessor of Hachung land and the sacred lands 16 00:00:47,270 --> 00:00:48,970 of all indigenous people. 17 00:00:54,180 --> 00:00:55,240 Thank you at this time. 18 00:00:55,240 --> 00:01:01,880 I will now take a motion to approve the minutes of November 13th regular meeting and November 17th 19 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:06,520 budget meeting. Motion made by council member of Bedford, second by council member Northwood, 20 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,500 any discussion or corrections. Seeing none, please vote. 21 00:01:18,970 --> 00:01:20,610 And that motion passes unanimously. 22 00:01:23,940 --> 00:01:30,920 Moving to reports, 251427 financial report from the director of finance for the month of October. 23 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:41,240 Motion to receive and file made by Council Member Kalo second by Council Member Stein. Any discussion or questions? 24 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:43,640 Seeing none please vote. 25 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:51,660 And that motion passes unanimously. 26 00:01:52,580 --> 00:01:55,000 Not opening up for notices and discussions. 27 00:01:58,060 --> 00:01:59,240 Council President Dickinson. 28 00:02:02,700 --> 00:02:06,100 I'll try not to cough a lot. I have a backup plan in case it's serious. 29 00:02:07,500 --> 00:02:12,680 But the first off I want to think J.D. Roberts from our airport. 30 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:18,740 He is our business manager and I want to give him accolades for our new 31 00:02:18,740 --> 00:02:23,160 allegiance services that will be twice a week starting in February, 32 00:02:23,420 --> 00:02:29,520 specifically February 6th. He has worked diligently over the last two years and 33 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:35,080 attended approximately 33 meetings with various airlines to make this come to 34 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:41,120 fruition. So I also think the support of staff that would be helping him to 35 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:47,140 accomplished this, but he really did an outstanding job getting something that's exciting to come. 36 00:02:47,700 --> 00:02:56,360 So, you haven't heard in February, we will have non-stop flights to Phoenix-Mesa, Arizona, 37 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:05,220 and then starting in May, we will have two time a week flights to Orlando, non-stop, with a legend. 38 00:03:05,220 --> 00:03:07,300 So I want to thank him. 39 00:03:07,900 --> 00:03:17,520 My second item that I would like to bring to everyone's attention is that District 1 has the second and third ADU of the city. 40 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:23,480 So I'm excited to see that continue to move forward through this meeting today. 41 00:03:24,740 --> 00:03:26,780 They're all within a couple of blocks of my house. 42 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:31,400 So I'm excited for that new option to be in District 1. 43 00:03:32,380 --> 00:03:33,580 Thank you. 44 00:03:34,420 --> 00:03:36,220 Thank you, Council Member Tros. 45 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:38,060 Thank you. 46 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:44,800 One of the things I've done over the last couple of December is a list of thank yous to various staff 47 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:45,860 who I've worked with. 48 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:47,200 So here's my list for this year. 49 00:03:47,300 --> 00:03:51,200 I'd like to thank surveyor Coleman for the Ally Repairs of My District. 50 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:56,000 I'd like to thank the Belieged Street crews who deal with the leaves and snow. 51 00:03:56,100 --> 00:04:00,780 I know they do the best they can, and they are always at the whim of the weather. 52 00:04:00,780 --> 00:04:07,260 assessors, Newman, Ben Roode, and Britain for following the law and having professionalism 53 00:04:07,260 --> 00:04:11,400 and personal discipline during the assessment objection hearings. 54 00:04:12,100 --> 00:04:17,960 Super-intending Griebond for planning the upgrades for our reservoir and giving me a 55 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,080 behind-the-scenes tour of our water facilities. 56 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:26,900 Compliance Manager for the Utilities Team Ericsson giving us a data-driven rate increase 57 00:04:26,900 --> 00:04:33,780 and advice to me for what to tell my constituents dealing with stormwater flooding. I'd like to thank 58 00:04:33,780 --> 00:04:38,440 the Department heads for their work and putting together next year's budget. I'd like to thank 59 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:43,340 council president Dickinson for being a council president who's fostering collegiality and 60 00:04:43,340 --> 00:04:50,440 professional growth for council members. I'd like to thank the M.T.U. drivers since I've been writing 61 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:58,020 bus and with the snow. I see that active transportation is actually social care. I see the way 62 00:04:58,020 --> 00:05:05,800 they help various riders off and on with their wheelchairs and the way they wait for buses for 63 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:13,920 a rider who needs the bus. I'd like to thank previous councils for ending off street parking 64 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:19,020 mandates last year at this very meeting. I'd like to thank this council and mayor for running 65 00:05:19,020 --> 00:05:28,920 And I'd also like to thank Library Archivist D'Rosher for using old sources to tell the truth to power about housing history and policy in this city. 66 00:05:30,910 --> 00:05:32,610 Thank you, Councilmember Gagan. 67 00:05:35,940 --> 00:05:46,520 Thank you, Mayor. I'd like to first thank Julie Hemsley, Jenny Dingman and Tim Mclin for bringing forward the opportunity to provide a vibrant space on the north side on Caledonia Street and District 2. 68 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:53,020 Again, it's a win for the North Side, and it's going to bring in businesses, it's going 69 00:05:53,020 --> 00:06:01,220 to bring in a collaborative effort to have food trucks and events and just a really great 70 00:06:01,220 --> 00:06:04,840 idea for a great space there, so I'm very excited to have that. 71 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:09,060 Secondly, I'd like to thank the police for helping out with the role-release parade. 72 00:06:09,780 --> 00:06:14,420 The route was coal and dark, and they were out there with very positive attitudes, keeping 73 00:06:14,420 --> 00:06:20,660 crowds back and keeping everybody safe. I just want to say great job. And then I want to thank 74 00:06:20,660 --> 00:06:28,080 a former Washburn member as she calls herself. Do I know for coming forward with the idea to 75 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:37,400 raise the permit fees for billboards? It's something that has been long overdue and we will continue 76 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:44,060 to research it and see what else we can do as we research other municipalities. And then the last thing 77 00:06:44,060 --> 00:06:51,300 I'd like to thank is the Park and Act Department for their work on just a torturous work 78 00:06:51,300 --> 00:06:57,620 on getting Badger Hickey Park to a bid stage that we're going to have new bathrooms there. 79 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:04,060 And it's as my little, my little friends, Phoebe and Charlotte call it, the Red and White 80 00:07:04,060 --> 00:07:08,520 Park and it'll be exciting to have bathrooms there and to be able to continue this experience 81 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:09,280 as we have there. 82 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:10,880 So thank you. 83 00:07:11,460 --> 00:07:21,020 Thank you, Councilmember Podeski. Thank you, your honor. I just want to say happy birthday to anybody who's watching online with blue eyes tonight. I love you. 84 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:22,400 Happy birthday. 85 00:07:23,060 --> 00:07:31,120 And also, there are some cupcakes left that I did see Mr. Flatmire noticed and so don't be shy. There's a few cupcakes left over here. 86 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:35,100 So come on over. Thank you, everybody. Thank you. 87 00:07:35,100 --> 00:07:37,320 and have you bring it to your wife? 88 00:07:37,700 --> 00:07:38,560 Councilmember Bedford. 89 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,300 Hello, I am in the head of the Disability Chair 90 00:07:42,300 --> 00:07:44,880 and today, one of the big things we talked about 91 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,700 was snow removal, as I think is a tradition, 92 00:07:49,620 --> 00:07:54,200 every winter and fall and quite a lot of our time. 93 00:07:54,940 --> 00:07:57,160 Being in the meeting today is a big reminder 94 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,800 of why we call snow emergencies, snow emergencies. 95 00:08:01,900 --> 00:08:04,180 I spoke to people that were forced into the street 96 00:08:04,180 --> 00:08:07,400 with their mobility devices that had trouble getting around 97 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:13,120 with their dogs and we've heard a lot of complaints 98 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,360 about various different things going on with the snow. 99 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,040 But the reason for that is because of the emergency 100 00:08:19,660 --> 00:08:23,180 that it is for people's day-to-day lives when it's not there. 101 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,520 And so the flip side of that is giving thanks 102 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,160 to the wonderful people that we do have out there 103 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,040 in our city that are applying the streets 104 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:38,180 that are doing the work out there in the cold and even the normal citizens that are out there 105 00:08:38,180 --> 00:08:43,200 going ahead and getting their sidewalk and their curves plowed. So I want to thank you 106 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:50,720 to everybody there and there was some praise given that is a little bit outside my area of expertise. 107 00:08:50,980 --> 00:08:57,400 But if there's any plow people watching this, that's swivel that you do in the intersections 108 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:02,440 is apparently a wonderful thing that deserves a call out of praise as well. 109 00:09:02,620 --> 00:09:03,740 So I wanted to add that into. 110 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:05,490 Thank you. 111 00:09:05,940 --> 00:09:06,560 Thank you. 112 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:07,320 Council Member Gaga. 113 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,400 Thanks again, Mary, for that one person. 114 00:09:12,060 --> 00:09:16,400 I have been contacted a lot about snow recently. 115 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,780 And I wanted to give a shout out to Ryan Restinson and his crew. 116 00:09:21,220 --> 00:09:25,460 The streets are pretended sent me a long and lengthy email about why they do what they do. 117 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:26,560 How they do it. 118 00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:34,100 So now when my constituents call me, I will have a firm and smart answer to give instead of the, I'm not sure about that. 119 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:45,740 So I just really appreciate Ryan when he is so busy taking this time to write me a very detailed message of why they do what they do and how they do it. 120 00:09:45,980 --> 00:09:51,600 So I can pass it along to my constituents and maybe make it a little bit easier to remove snow and a district too. 121 00:09:52,850 --> 00:09:55,030 Awesome. Thank you. 122 00:09:55,450 --> 00:09:59,870 Seeing other speakers, we'll move on to our council matters. 123 00:10:00,490 --> 00:10:02,810 Starting with 25, 1, 4, 2, 6. 124 00:10:02,810 --> 00:10:06,910 Resolution approval and 25 bills and energy engineering. 125 00:10:07,130 --> 00:10:09,990 Excuse me, estimates paid in December of 2025. 126 00:10:15,610 --> 00:10:19,110 Motion made by council member Northwood is their second. 127 00:10:19,570 --> 00:10:22,090 Second by council president Dickinson. 128 00:10:22,910 --> 00:10:23,870 Council member Gogh. 129 00:10:24,570 --> 00:10:36,730 Thank you, Mayor. You know, every month we just approve these and I thought, you know, it might be good for someone to explain to us what we're approving and what that chart that we get means every month. 130 00:10:37,070 --> 00:10:41,930 I've been doing a little research and I just thought maybe everybody else would like to hear about that too. 131 00:10:43,210 --> 00:10:46,810 A staff with that being directed out of there is that you, 132 00:10:51,560 --> 00:10:52,980 director of finance. 133 00:11:00,660 --> 00:11:04,500 Sir, a good question. I'm probably going to have to do a little bit more research on it, 134 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:11,440 to give you better answer for it. I was not prepared to discuss on the list of bills that we go 135 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,360 through every month. 136 00:11:15,850 --> 00:11:19,090 I mean, there are bills that we've paid over the course of the month. 137 00:11:19,090 --> 00:11:22,190 So by statute, you know, they have to be approved by council. 138 00:11:23,170 --> 00:11:24,630 So I have to look at that list again. 139 00:11:24,830 --> 00:11:26,050 I'm just going to give you better answer. 140 00:11:31,230 --> 00:11:32,210 Thank you. 141 00:11:36,100 --> 00:11:37,820 There's a motion on the floor. 142 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,740 You know, with the speakers, please vote. 143 00:11:49,470 --> 00:11:50,990 That motion passes unanimously. 144 00:11:51,630 --> 00:11:54,270 Now I'm moving to the appointments by the mayor. 145 00:11:54,990 --> 00:11:59,010 Item 251424, bicycle and predation advisory committee 146 00:11:59,010 --> 00:12:01,830 Kevin Hunt, Climate Action Plan and Stair Committee, 147 00:12:01,830 --> 00:12:06,210 Lauren Fortin, Housing Authority Christina Beckner, 148 00:12:06,950 --> 00:12:10,130 the Cross County Convention in Visitor Bureau, 149 00:12:10,410 --> 00:12:14,890 excuse me, Jane Birch, police and fire commission, 150 00:12:15,050 --> 00:12:16,930 Joan Park, redevelopment authority, 151 00:12:17,070 --> 00:12:21,410 Philip Ostrung, Roontax Commission, Maurice Gode, 152 00:12:22,130 --> 00:12:23,730 and Wayne Dilligrade. 153 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:27,940 Motion to adopt by a council member, 154 00:12:28,260 --> 00:12:30,360 trust second by a council member, new bearer. 155 00:12:31,680 --> 00:12:37,860 Councilmember Jensen. I'd like to move to divide and pull out the bicycle pedestrian advisory 156 00:12:37,860 --> 00:12:45,340 committee. There's a motion to pull out the bicycle and pedestrian advisory committee. 157 00:12:48,190 --> 00:12:54,910 Second, by Councilmember, no, sorry. Okay, here we go. Move by Councilmember Jensen, 158 00:12:55,010 --> 00:12:59,310 second by Councilmember Kalo. They need a discussion. 159 00:13:01,780 --> 00:13:03,760 All right, so we're going to vote to 160 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:09,860 separate or to pull out the bicycle in pedestrian committee. So please vote 161 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:23,240 or do we not vote on this? No, we just do that. Okay. All right. Help me out. Thank you. It's been a minute. No, okay. 162 00:13:23,940 --> 00:13:25,460 Customer emergency. You were going to speak. 163 00:13:31,650 --> 00:13:38,690 No, what's changed? So I guess I think this is worth discussing since this was voted on the last time. I don't see how anything has changed. 164 00:13:38,690 --> 00:13:39,410 so. 165 00:13:41,860 --> 00:13:42,060 Okay. 166 00:13:45,430 --> 00:13:47,450 Don't remember Kayla. Thank you, Mayor. 167 00:13:49,770 --> 00:13:52,570 Is it appropriate at this point since 168 00:13:52,570 --> 00:14:03,570 you have made this appointment for a second time to have you tell us your reasons or is that 169 00:14:04,170 --> 00:14:11,910 something we would have to talk about after we vote on this? I can say no. So I was able to talk 170 00:14:11,910 --> 00:14:20,110 to Mr. Hunt after the first vote and I still strongly believe that he would be a good candidate 171 00:14:20,110 --> 00:14:25,070 on the bicycle and pedestrian advisory committee with his knowledge of the city, both in 172 00:14:25,070 --> 00:14:29,590 bicycle infrastructure, as well as housing, although that has nothing to do with this, but 173 00:14:29,590 --> 00:14:36,150 he's very willing and wanted to serve on that committee and serve on serve the city. 174 00:14:36,390 --> 00:14:41,650 And I think that that's very important and recognizing that we with these committees don't always 175 00:14:41,650 --> 00:14:46,530 have a bunch of folks coming knocking on our doors to serve on committees. So what we do I think is 176 00:14:46,530 --> 00:14:51,410 important to acknowledge that they're across citizens that are willing and wanting in Thursday, 177 00:14:51,970 --> 00:14:59,110 so to speak, to serve. And so I would also say if the Council want Kevin is here and could speak. 178 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,740 I think that would be great to give Kevin an opportunity to speak. 179 00:15:17,740 --> 00:15:22,820 Do we need to vote to open discussion or can I just 180 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:26,280 know? 181 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:27,820 Okay. All right, Kevin. 182 00:15:32,580 --> 00:15:34,640 Can you state your name in municipality? 183 00:15:37,780 --> 00:15:38,200 Will it across? 184 00:15:41,970 --> 00:15:48,010 Do you have any questions? Can you just speak to why you would like to join this particular committee? 185 00:15:48,790 --> 00:15:49,110 Sure. 186 00:15:49,750 --> 00:15:58,310 I wasn't sure if I was going to be speaking, I would know, in June, there was, I heard 187 00:15:58,310 --> 00:16:03,030 a desire for me to speak, so I wish I had been there and I could have clarified some 188 00:16:03,030 --> 00:16:03,390 things. 189 00:16:04,250 --> 00:16:10,330 So I have been a, I haven't owned a car in 20 years, so I'm very familiar with what it's 190 00:16:10,330 --> 00:16:17,770 like to try to get around in lacrosse as a bicyclist, as a bus rider, I also have extensively 191 00:16:17,770 --> 00:16:23,010 researched the housing and transportation history of the cross over the past few decades. 192 00:16:24,310 --> 00:16:32,950 And what I've concluded is that cars are very expensive, both for individuals and for 193 00:16:32,950 --> 00:16:38,560 the municipality. They're dangerous, both in terms of accidents and pollutants that they produce 194 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:47,840 car culture, car oriented construction patterns, lead to low density construction that has 195 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:53,980 had a devastating effect on lacrosse tax base and municipal expenditures. We have our climate 196 00:16:53,980 --> 00:16:59,300 obligations. So I think there's many, many reasons why we need to dramatically reduce 197 00:16:59,300 --> 00:17:08,960 car use. I don't believe in, I think that education is a good step towards that, but I think 198 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:15,360 more important is infrastructure. We have infrastructure that is car oriented and it's relatively 199 00:17:15,360 --> 00:17:21,340 easy to get around by car. I know a lot of drivers don't see things that way, but in order 200 00:17:21,340 --> 00:17:29,060 to get here for my apartment less than about a mile away, I had to go into the street and then 201 00:17:29,060 --> 00:17:36,800 sidewalk that was barely plowed and then across intersection go, you know, all the way 202 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:41,940 out of my way to get to another sidewalk and then dodges through some traffic and it's 203 00:17:41,940 --> 00:17:46,660 just not easy to get around by bike. So we shouldn't be surprised when people don't do it. 204 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:52,800 My philosophy is based on what type of infrastructure are rebuilding. So that's the thing that's 205 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:59,560 neglected, I've tried to comment on it many times, and I've felt sideline, so I think that 206 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:04,060 being on the bicycle pedestrian committee is the thing that I can be doing to be advancing 207 00:18:04,060 --> 00:18:11,000 those goals. Specifically, I want to be looking at very specific infrastructure adjustments, 208 00:18:11,180 --> 00:18:17,920 I want to be looking at intersections, I want to be looking at connections, I want to be 209 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:22,260 looking at doesn't make sense to put this bike lane here, how does this fit in with the 210 00:18:22,260 --> 00:18:29,900 plan is their larger plan. I want to work with the M2 Committee, the M2 Board, to create a 211 00:18:29,900 --> 00:18:36,000 more comprehensive non-card transportation plan. So those are my goals as a member of the 212 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:42,980 bicycle pedestrian committee. And if I can answer three of them that I re-applied for the 213 00:18:42,980 --> 00:18:49,400 committee is that I think that there might have been some confusion or lack of familiarity with me. 214 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:55,700 know that I tend to be an abrasive person. That's fair. I'll own that accusation. I like to say, 215 00:18:55,700 --> 00:18:59,540 I like to think of myself as a kind person, but I'm definitely not a nice person. 216 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:01,820 And, you know, 217 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:09,020 that's just how it is. I can try to temper that. I understand the rules of conduct for committee 218 00:19:09,020 --> 00:19:15,440 members and people representing the city in that capacity. So I can definitely code switch and 219 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:22,520 it in and I also think that just some of the new council members might not have been so familiar with me 220 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:27,880 so I took that opportunity to introduce myself to a couple and I think that we had some good 221 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:32,510 conversations so I hope that does that answer the question. Yes that does. Thank you. 222 00:19:35,290 --> 00:19:41,750 Council member Klaw. Are we allowed to just ask a question? Is that will the chair allow me to ask 223 00:19:41,750 --> 00:19:52,710 question? Are you willing to answer questions? I appreciate everything you've said in your experience 224 00:19:53,990 --> 00:20:03,430 and on many of these issues we agree over the reason that I objected previously, it was 225 00:20:03,430 --> 00:20:11,690 your inflammatory conduct towards council members when you had a difference of opinion on 226 00:20:11,690 --> 00:20:19,130 policy and what we talked about is that we as elected officials and folks who are on those 227 00:20:19,130 --> 00:20:28,690 committees are held to a higher standard of conduct and that was my concern about conferring 228 00:20:28,690 --> 00:20:29,510 in that appointment. 229 00:20:30,350 --> 00:20:36,490 So my question is, you know, do you understand that and even though you said you're willing 230 00:20:36,490 --> 00:20:39,410 to act professionally on the committee, 231 00:20:40,250 --> 00:20:43,350 hopefully that will carry into other areas 232 00:20:43,350 --> 00:20:44,770 and not just on the committee. 233 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,940 So the question is, do you understand 234 00:20:50,940 --> 00:20:54,200 why council members vote it? 235 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:54,920 No, the last time. 236 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:55,420 Correct. 237 00:20:55,860 --> 00:20:57,540 And some of the reasons why, 238 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,780 it not because you may not be knowledgeable 239 00:21:02,580 --> 00:21:05,660 and you may not be a good fit, not as faced, 240 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,100 but some of the inflammatory things 241 00:21:08,100 --> 00:21:16,420 that were said and personal attacks came across as very threatening to many council members. 242 00:21:17,660 --> 00:21:24,300 So what I'm asking is, you know, do you understand that that is probably something that 243 00:21:24,300 --> 00:21:28,320 is not appreciated on city committees? 244 00:21:32,900 --> 00:21:33,500 Yes. 245 00:21:34,540 --> 00:21:35,520 Councilmember Podeski. 246 00:21:36,460 --> 00:21:37,160 Thank you, Your Honor. 247 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:52,160 I actually was one of the people coming and I reached out to and we had lunch and had a nice time that day and I told Kevin I find him to be very knowledgeable and intelligent young man and I appreciate it that. 248 00:21:52,820 --> 00:21:57,580 The only thing we did talk about what Councilmember Kalo just did as far as that stuff. 249 00:21:57,580 --> 00:22:05,380 And I asked him to, you know, not publicly, he doesn't have to apologize, but I say, you know, just think it over, maybe privately apologize. 250 00:22:07,180 --> 00:22:25,680 I don't know if he did or not. I will say that I do appreciate the fact now, Kevin, you see, you see my little bit more sorrowful about what you may have said, and you also just agree that you know that. 251 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:31,460 There's a lot of times that I'm a very emotional guy, you know, I can cry to drop a 252 00:22:31,460 --> 00:22:36,580 bit of a hat, but I can back in the day, I throw a fist at the drop of my hat, but I'll 253 00:22:36,580 --> 00:22:39,320 grow in that, not wait that, so it doesn't happen anymore, 254 00:22:41,700 --> 00:22:42,800 but I guess the big thing for 255 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:47,780 me coming is I just hope you understand your representing the city, and as much as we do have 256 00:22:47,780 --> 00:22:52,060 freedom of speech in this country, we have to be held to a higher standard when we're 257 00:22:52,060 --> 00:22:59,040 committees or in these roles of council. So I just got to thank you for a few seconds, but I 258 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:03,800 thank you for coming up and answering these questions. Thank you. Council Member Gagan. 259 00:23:05,770 --> 00:23:11,410 Hi, Mr Hunt. We, we have, you have disagreed with me and I'm, we've never had a personal interaction. We've 260 00:23:11,410 --> 00:23:15,470 never talked about any of my votes anything, but you've called me a murder. I should be shunned. Those 261 00:23:15,470 --> 00:23:21,770 things totally get it. Have a fixed skin, no problem. But what I want to make sure that you understand 262 00:23:21,770 --> 00:23:26,030 And now this to this date is that I've been in listening sessions with you. 263 00:23:26,450 --> 00:23:31,990 I've read some of your comments on public media and social media, excuse me. 264 00:23:32,250 --> 00:23:35,730 And I found them very nuanced and very well researched. 265 00:23:36,030 --> 00:23:39,050 And I really appreciate that voice because it's taught me things. 266 00:23:39,610 --> 00:23:45,270 So I want to just say that I'm encouraged and I look forward to actually being able to work 267 00:23:45,270 --> 00:23:46,230 with you. 268 00:23:46,430 --> 00:23:49,230 And when I have a question, maybe that I can use you as a resource. 269 00:23:49,230 --> 00:24:00,050 So, I just want you to know that I'm always open for you to talk to me about how I vote, why I vote, when I vote, because it is lacrosse first for me. 270 00:24:00,390 --> 00:24:01,670 Thank you. 271 00:24:01,910 --> 00:24:02,950 Council member Bedford. 272 00:24:04,490 --> 00:24:05,450 This will be a quick one. 273 00:24:05,530 --> 00:24:06,710 Do you have a history of violence? 274 00:24:08,070 --> 00:24:08,390 No. 275 00:24:08,990 --> 00:24:09,450 Thank you. 276 00:24:11,030 --> 00:24:11,470 All right. 277 00:24:12,770 --> 00:24:13,570 Let me say it, Kevin. 278 00:24:13,730 --> 00:24:15,830 Thank you very much for coming up. 279 00:24:15,830 --> 00:24:18,010 Sorry, Councilmember Weston, go ahead. 280 00:24:20,050 --> 00:24:24,570 Sorry, I, I, Mr. Anted, I do also just want to apologize. 281 00:24:24,970 --> 00:24:28,730 I think I think there's been an indictment on your character. 282 00:24:29,210 --> 00:24:34,990 And I do feel like we would all be at a loss if we were judged 283 00:24:34,990 --> 00:24:37,330 by some of the things that we have said and done. 284 00:24:38,130 --> 00:24:43,570 And I'm, to be honest, quite uncomfortable with the council's decision 285 00:24:44,270 --> 00:24:47,030 to pick out one person out of many when there are many, 286 00:24:47,030 --> 00:24:55,390 I don't know most of these people, and so I'm concerned that this is a trend that we will 287 00:24:55,390 --> 00:25:00,830 continue and I would like us to instead revisit the how we appoint people to these committees. 288 00:25:02,450 --> 00:25:04,870 Anyway, I will be supporting your candidacy. 289 00:25:06,950 --> 00:25:08,690 All right, thank you very much, Kevin. 290 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:13,100 Please vote. 291 00:25:16,980 --> 00:25:20,220 This is to approve Kevin Hunt serving on the 292 00:25:22,100 --> 00:25:30,860 this is to divide so the vote is to divide so I was 293 00:25:30,860 --> 00:25:35,960 going to write the first time thank you all right so this is the vote to 294 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,400 divide the question 295 00:25:48,470 --> 00:25:54,590 that most in passes so now we're going to vote on the 296 00:25:54,590 --> 00:25:59,850 bicycle pedestrian question correct we'll need to make a motion okay to confirm 297 00:25:59,850 --> 00:26:00,790 The bike pad. 298 00:26:01,110 --> 00:26:06,790 All right, emotionally by council member Benford, second by council member Northwood, any other discussion. 299 00:26:08,470 --> 00:26:11,390 Would I just like to council member Killa go first and then I'll go after you. 300 00:26:11,390 --> 00:26:12,290 Thank you, I'll be brief. 301 00:26:12,810 --> 00:26:19,550 I'm encouraged by Mr. Hunt being here and I'm always willing to give someone the benefit of the doubt. 302 00:26:19,890 --> 00:26:23,390 So I will this time be voting to confirm. 303 00:26:23,970 --> 00:26:25,250 All right, council member Johnson. 304 00:26:27,490 --> 00:26:47,490 I'm off for people changing their behavior, I don't think a few months necessarily meets my expectations after 12 years of seeing inappropriate behavior or consistent behavior that I don't think meets the standards of our committee selection. So I'll be voting no. 305 00:26:48,190 --> 00:26:49,490 All right, thank you. 306 00:26:50,630 --> 00:26:55,130 In this pretty unique situation, I just want to say thank you to Kevin for 307 00:26:55,130 --> 00:27:00,310 one showing up to council and also coming up to the front and being able to speak 308 00:27:00,310 --> 00:27:00,950 your piece. 309 00:27:01,170 --> 00:27:06,490 I know that that is not easy and can be uncomfortable, but without being said, please vote. 310 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:20,960 And that motion passes with one day, 11, yes, and zero abstentions. 311 00:27:22,650 --> 00:27:27,050 Now moving back to all of the remainder committee assignments 312 00:27:28,110 --> 00:27:31,290 We'll start with. Are there any questions or discussion? 313 00:27:32,630 --> 00:27:34,410 Seeing none, please vote 314 00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:48,580 and that motion passes unanimously. Thank you. 315 00:27:49,220 --> 00:27:52,800 All right, so mention of Council rule 15 for the following items 316 00:27:54,340 --> 00:27:57,160 251392 and 251406 317 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,960 Motion made by Councilmember Goggins second by Councilmember Sleznikov 318 00:28:05,590 --> 00:28:07,350 Please vote. 319 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,240 That motion passes unanimously. All right, report of bid is quote to 320 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:22,500 recommend it to be adopted. 25, 085, 0 report of bid in resolution awarding 321 00:28:22,500 --> 00:28:29,620 contract to T2 contracting LLC in the amount of 500,000, 500,622 dollars in 322 00:28:29,620 --> 00:28:35,440 $36 for the Badger Hickey Park Restrooms and Shelter Project. Motion made by 323 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,920 Council Member Badesk, he sent him by Council Member Gaga and Council Member, sorry Council 324 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:49,070 President Dickinson. I was wondering if Park Staff could come forward and explain the process that has happened 325 00:28:49,070 --> 00:28:55,490 over the last few years regarding the Badger Hikipark. Thank you. Mr. Jim Fletmire. 326 00:29:04,060 --> 00:29:08,140 Thank you and good evening. Gary thanks for the offer of a cupcake. I appreciate that. 327 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:15,000 Badger Hikipark we've been working on this for quite some time. The third time was the charm to get across 328 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:21,800 of finish line. The old shelter at Badger, Hitchie Park, FEMA ordered the city of La Crosse 329 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:29,040 to tear it down. So we tore it down a year and a half ago. We brought various 330 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:32,900 changes 331 00:29:32,900 --> 00:29:42,580 and such to the shelter to try and get it under budget. We get some COVID pricing so it kept going 332 00:29:42,580 --> 00:29:48,160 up but we got it we finally got it right it's coming across the finish line we 333 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:54,200 got the base bid for the bathroom so it'll start construction here in the 334 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,260 spring. Awesome thank you any other questions. 335 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,980 Thank you. Thank you. Seeing no other speakers, please hope. 336 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:33,620 And that motion passes unanimously. Next agenda item 251231 report of beds and resolution, awarding contract to 337 00:30:33,620 --> 00:30:41,710 100, excuse me, 2000 block on Prime Street in Cameroa Project. 338 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:51,420 Motion made by Councilmember Stein, second by Council President Dickinson, any discussion? 339 00:30:53,500 --> 00:30:54,700 Seeing none, please vote. 340 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,520 Motion passes unanimously. 341 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:09,700 Next is in Item 251347, Report of Bids in Resolution, Award in Contracts of BKC, Construction 342 00:31:09,700 --> 00:31:18,640 LLC in the amount of $2,471,634 in two cents for the highway 16 water transmission line, 343 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:19,640 North Project. 344 00:31:20,820 --> 00:31:25,740 Motion made by Council Member Goggins second by Council Member Podeski, any discussion? 345 00:31:27,060 --> 00:31:28,260 Seeing none, please vote. 346 00:31:35,140 --> 00:31:36,640 And that motion passes unanimously. 347 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:44,140 Next is item 25134A, Report of Bends and Resolution Award and Contracts of Gerkey, Excavating, 348 00:31:44,140 --> 00:31:53,200 Inc. and the amount of $5,174,219 dollars in 92 cents for the hotway 16 water transmission 349 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:58,900 9 South Project, motion to approve by Council Member Gaggan, second by Council Member 350 00:31:58,900 --> 00:32:02,580 Padeski, any discussion, CNU employees vote, 351 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:09,500 and that motion passes. 352 00:32:09,500 --> 00:32:17,140 Next is the item 251350 report of bids and resolution awarding contract to follow and hammer 353 00:32:17,140 --> 00:32:26,080 ink in the amount of $588,809 dollars in 23 cents for 2025 signal replacement at 354 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,100 more Macoolie Road and Losing Boulevard Project. 355 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:37,080 Most of the approved by Council Member Kalo's second by Council President Dickinson. 356 00:32:38,340 --> 00:32:39,200 Any discussion? 357 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,640 and see a non-pleasable, 358 00:32:46,140 --> 00:32:47,380 and then motion passes. 359 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:50,980 Moving on to items to be adapted, 360 00:32:51,660 --> 00:32:55,500 starting with agenda item 251352 resolution 361 00:32:55,500 --> 00:32:57,380 authorized in the mayor in the city clerk 362 00:32:57,380 --> 00:32:59,200 to sign the State Municipal Agreement 363 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,620 for the reconstruction of a cross street 364 00:33:01,620 --> 00:33:03,820 from South Street to 12 Street. 365 00:33:04,100 --> 00:33:06,660 Most of them are approved by council members, 366 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,080 Rose, second by council president Dickinson. 367 00:33:10,460 --> 00:33:11,500 Council member Kaylo. 368 00:33:11,500 --> 00:33:13,340 Thank you, Mayor. 369 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:20,160 This stretch is partially in my district and partially my colleague comes 370 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:30,180 member of Janssen and the design including the bike lane. 371 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:35,120 I'm not really happy with and I think we could have done better on it. 372 00:33:36,060 --> 00:33:37,260 It's a state highway. 373 00:33:37,260 --> 00:33:48,500 I would have preferred a somewhat of a separated and protected bike lane, and we weren't really given many options, so I will not be voting in favor of this. 374 00:33:51,180 --> 00:33:51,760 Got some emergency. 375 00:33:54,340 --> 00:34:01,640 Many of the business probably basically all of them showed up for the public works meeting to share their displeasure with the options. 376 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:08,240 And I think that we are doing a disservice to our businesses and the property owners on the 377 00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:11,740 cross street this section by choosing this design. 378 00:34:12,340 --> 00:34:14,940 So I'm going to be voting a note as well. 379 00:34:15,860 --> 00:34:22,460 It's just the continuation of a bad design from the other side of the cross street, which 380 00:34:22,460 --> 00:34:24,900 is currently filled with snow by the way. 381 00:34:29,490 --> 00:34:30,410 Any other discussion? 382 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,160 All right. 383 00:34:50,340 --> 00:35:05,920 Next is an item 25, 1, 3, 5, 8, a resolution and comforting and comforting, additional funds from previous allocations for the row street, streetscape and St. James Street reconstruction projects. 384 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:11,040 Most of you are approved by Council Member Gaga and second by Council Member Stein any discussion. 385 00:35:13,300 --> 00:35:14,540 See you now, please vote. 386 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:38,780 And that motion passes unanimously. 387 00:35:42,820 --> 00:35:44,800 Next is an item 251372. 388 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:50,420 Amanda Resolution authorized and the sanitary sewer utility to reallocate unused funds 389 00:35:50,420 --> 00:35:56,800 from closed capital projects and appropriate additional funds for capital projects and equipment needs. 390 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,080 needs. Motion to approve by constant number 391 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,080 trolls second by constant number northward any discussion. 392 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:05,760 Seeing none, please vote. 393 00:36:13,620 --> 00:36:15,940 And that motion passes 11 to 1. 394 00:36:18,220 --> 00:36:23,080 Next is an item 251373 resolution authorized in the water utility to 395 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:27,020 reallocate unused funds from closed capital projects and appropriate additional 396 00:36:27,020 --> 00:36:31,880 funds for capital project needs. Motion to approve or most of the 397 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,660 doubt by constant number northward second by constant number trolls. 398 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,100 Seeing a note discussion, please vote, 399 00:36:46,060 --> 00:36:48,260 and that motion passes 11 to 1. 400 00:36:50,300 --> 00:36:54,380 The Consident Jett of the following Consident Jett will be approved with a single voice vote 401 00:36:54,380 --> 00:37:00,640 based on the recommended actions, unless an item is removed at the request of the mayor 402 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:06,800 or a council member, so I will ask out this time, are there any items that you would like 403 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,880 to have removed from the consent agenda. 404 00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:13,620 We've got it. 405 00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:22,120 All right, CNN, we will vote as most of you to approve by Councilor McKaylow, say goodbye 406 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:26,080 Councilor President Dickinson, so everyone please vote. 407 00:37:35,340 --> 00:37:37,220 And that motion passes unanimously. 408 00:37:38,340 --> 00:37:42,720 All right, before we wrap up, I just want to say this is our last Councilman meeting of 409 00:37:43,420 --> 00:37:49,440 2025. I want to thank you all for serving your districts and serving the city of Lacrosse. 410 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:54,580 I want to say thank you to every one of our directors for all of the hard work that you all 411 00:37:54,580 --> 00:37:59,380 do and commit to the city every day and thank you to all of our city staff and all the work that they 412 00:37:59,380 --> 00:38:04,860 do to make this city a better place for everyone. That being said, this meeting is adjourned.