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I'd like to call to order the Morgan Town City Council special meeting of February 28, 2017.

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and clerk would please call the roll.

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No one doing deputy mayor, Kawikki.

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Here.

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Where's Nugent?

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Yeah.

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Jenny Samine.

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Here.

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Jay Redmond.

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Here.

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Here.

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Mayor Schambover.

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Here.

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Our first item is unfinished business.

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Item A that proposed 2017 paving list.

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I wonder if you wanted to kind of open up and give a summary.

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Absolutely.

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I'm happy to do that.

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Thank you, Madam Mayor.

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So what you have included in the packet is a revised paving list based on the

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In last week's discussion some of the other locations that have been identified previously and are included in this particular list.

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So there will be some when Mr. Davis speaks to the particulars about those additional streets that are identified.

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There will be a recommendation to remove some because of mob conducting some projects later on.

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And perhaps a few others that could be delayed into the next cycle at that time.

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Additionally, we look at the concept that we had discussed before breaking the project into two concurrent contracts.

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that would be potentially handled by two different contractors.

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And the concern that was expressed is having adequate enough inspection staff because we do have to have someone out the entire time while construction is undergoing, whether it be laying the cement or applying the asphalt.

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So I work with Mr. Davis on about that to compile an estimate of using an outside engineering firm that can do that type of work.

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I understand the, I guess, a little bit of reluctance that he had mentioned last year, apparently an outside firm was used.

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But many times that was fulfilling gaps when we had absences, say if an employee had a sketch on a Catholic or called in sick or whatever, and so to him an engineering firm, a scramble and send someone at the last minute, it may not be the best qualified person, not to diminish the ability of the firm, whereas if we know this from the beginning of the paving project and we segregate out the work and have the private sector firm handle, you know, the specific

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the area or the element of the paving project, I think can produce as high quality level as

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if it's our own employees.

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So I think by having a good understanding with that firm of what our expectations are,

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I think for any private sector firm, even in the short time that I worked in the private

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sector, you always look for opportunities where you can do more work.

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So that's kind of a foot in the door for them, if you will.

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And so I think this is an opportunity and not guaranteeing anything, but nevertheless,

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we have to have that utmost quality, because if there's something that's missed in the inspections,

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then it's on the inspector for missing that.

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So here's a identified cost.

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This is a very ambitious program, we're taking on a lot of different areas concurrently,

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and there was some discussion of having this completed by a time certain.

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I don't feel comfortable to say that this will be completed by July 1st, that was a date

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that was thrown out there and sure we want to set a high bar, but I don't want to set

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an expectation that we cannot live up to.

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At the same time, I believe it's worthwhile to have contact with the residents and information

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that we can provide where we are at with the project.

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Because, of course, unfortunately, the person that's less than less will keep asking when

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it's my street going to be done.

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And I think we need to provide fairly regular updates.

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And so we're talking about some ideas of how we can do that and we'll roll out the particular

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sonnet.

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But I think of having good communication with the residents so they understand what exactly

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is going on.

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So we have the project list before you, and can talk about the particulars, but like I said, this

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Damien will specify four streets that

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both he and I feel comfortable of removing because of the work being done or that can be delayed

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just until the next paving cycle. So hopefully this will bring some resolution and that we can move

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forward and more importantly that we can bid this out and we can schedule the project as

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quickly as possible so we can get going and when the students leave for the summer and

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there's less congestion that this can be completed on a timely basis.

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So I appreciate the opportunity to give some overview and may it may defer to our director

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of engineering.

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Sure.

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Mr. Can we suspend the rules and have Mr. Davis come up?

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Yes.

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By consensus.

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Sure.

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Uh, the last meeting, I guess, you tasked me involved with looking at the, the, what,

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what adding those additional streets says 11 additional streets that weren't included on

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the table list.

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Frontline additional.

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The original list of 70 free streets.

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Uh, there's 11 of them on there.

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Uh, uh, what that amounts to is a lot of number two miles of streets.

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$340, $324,000 for the additional cost, looked at cost inspectors, two inspectors,

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this is between $15,000, $70,000 based on time frame.

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The price would go up or down whether depending on how fast or slow the contract went.

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The four streets that Paul, Mr. Break, was talking about are small streets as two, one is

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Pine Street, and one is Cypher, Cambridge Alley, those two can go off the list and be done

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by our public work department.

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I think the last meeting council approved them buying some paving equipment, and so those

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of the streets that they did public works could handle other small, tiny streets.

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Cypress Street, the street that was on the list, we're going to be trying to get it done,

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but we had some issues with the ownership of the actual road, one of the joining neighbors

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claim ownership of half of the road, and so we can't, we still have resolved that issue,

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so Cypress Street would come off there.

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And then the other one's number 47 is Bradley Street.

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Mother's currently working on a project and putting together,

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don't have a time for anyone, but there's,

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they had some flooding issues on Bradley Street.

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There's a couple of callers they want to upgrade.

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So we would probably remove that until they actually did their upgrades.

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We will pay for them to come back to their own care right back.

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So Bradley would leave.

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Mr. Memphis, can I ask you where that street is?

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is over. You know, or Hoffman Street? Oh, like a Hoffman to Amherst and then Bradley.

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Okay. It's right on the edge of the city. Kind of, you know, Stuart, Tom Road and Hoffman

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Street. Thank you. So it's worth more. Third. Third. Where is it on the, pardon, where is

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on our list. Number 47 is Bradley in the priority conflict.

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Oh, up here. So that would be

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number 47, number 54, number 55, and number 60 that I would remove. So that would be an

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additional set of streets with these. Well, it's still these streets are small, so it doesn't

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We're moving much mileage, so you're still looking at a little under two miles of streets,

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cost is roughly 200, with those streets about $40,000, so you're looking at an additional

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$290,000, with those additional 7 streets, with the removal of the floor.

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Councilor King?

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I had sent a question about Windsor.

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My Mac show Windsor Avenue, although it's in my warden, it would be great if it was

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pay. My maps show that it's a state street. It is. It's a county route. It's county

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route with the five over two. The city is trying to take it over from the state. We requested

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the state to give it back. Give it to us. Because the state doesn't maintain it. Right.

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Windsor, Munsey, Drummond, those three streets are in that little neighborhood there that

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their county route with the five over two. The state doesn't maintain them. So we're in

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the process of asking the state for them back. So we won't pay it until we get it back

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from the state. We could, we could move forward paving it or we could not. I don't see any

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reason why we could move forward paving it.

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We have to talk to the state, but I don't

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see why we could pave it in the meantime just to get it up to better condition.

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Pardon us, drummond on the list.

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It's just as attached to, it's in really bad condition

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and it's attached, it's just the last little piece of Windsor.

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I don't think Drummond is here.

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But I think Drummond is not a state route.

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It's a little loop there.

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Maybe it's Coons.

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That's a Drummond's Coons, Coons, Monzy, and Windsor,

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right the state routes.

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Yeah, Drummond's in between those though.

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But Drummond lives there.

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Maybe you could pencil it in for a consideration for next year.

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Councilor Rettlin?

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We'll be like now as the next year is going to be a completely different assessment of

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the roadway.

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So next year's this list is going to be whatever streets aren't paved on here this year we're

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going to be throwing the pool with the residents' streets and fight for their lives based on their

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rankings and condition.

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Councillor Rettlin?

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Well, I have another question based on what you just said, but you're saying it's the

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for the year or the six I guess or six or the ones that you're taking off they'll just go back into the pool for next

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they'll go back in the pool yeah Windsor I'm here not Windsor but um Brandon we might make an exception for us and sits

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a mob project they're going to be carrying it up we may come in and restore it and we can make that exception

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probably for that street since it's going to be tore up to help mob so they don't have to put the full cost of

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restoration on that street we could work with them to where they cared up fix the problems that it has

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and then we come and restore it.

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You know, that'd be a good way to share and help them all out.

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Okay, my question relates come off of the list

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from the inspector issue.

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If I'm reading this right,

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this is essentially two full-time inspectors

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for the entirety of the project.

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Yes, correct?

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Does that cover all the inspection needed on this project

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or is in other words, will your department also be doing some

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of the inspection, or does this encompass the contractor?

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This would be if we split the contract into two, I would have my staff on one contract

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and I would have to hire additional staff for the other contract.

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So two inspectors per contractor, yes.

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We'll ask what it up as one of my contractors or one of my inspectors would be dealing entirely

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with the concrete aspects of the Paving Project, the AD ramp upgrades, any sidewalk stuff

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like that.

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And the other one is deal with the asphalt placement and say with the other one has a one conquering one asphalt.

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So if we were to not do two contractors, which I'm not suggesting, then this cost would be half of this cost will go away because my cost will go away in my budget.

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My salary budget.

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Let's see, okay.

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Yeah, this is just if I split into two higher additional spectrum to cover that second contract.

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Thank you.

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Just two comments, actually.

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One is I'm happy to see the list as presented in that the people who were on the waiting list are back on.

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That's good to see.

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My concern was in the past was not for who you had chosen or for the reasons that you chose them.

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It's just that we had created an expectation.

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people would queue up, would give them a number, and they were picking, waiting patiently,

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and then we turned around and we added people who hadn't queued up before.

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So, I'm pleased to see that we do that. Now, having said that, I do have the concern,

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and I think we all do, and I think you do too, in that we want to do this job properly.

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I'm hoping that we're not fighting off more than we can chew and that when we do this that we do this in a manner that will be perceived as being worth the weight.

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But other than that, thank you. Thank you for the compromise and thank you for bringing this forward.

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We made a lot of people happy and hopefully when this is completed, they will continue to be happy.

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Thank you.

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Councillor Neill, did you have a question?

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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I do have a question.

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I'm concerned.

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The person street, the fortney to East End, that is on the side of the road around Woodburn Elementary School.

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and I mean that is a building that we own is a city and we have tenants there and I just wondered if

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the priority for that could be moved up. I mean it's down at number 51 but as we speak we have

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the grapple parking lots and grapple all over the reds and in that you know

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Once we approve, once you approve this list, you know, this is the list, priority doesn't matter anymore. This is the list that we're already paving.

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So whether it's paving the beginnings, season, middle, season, or end, season, I'm going to leave that to the contractor to, you know, what their schedule is, where, how they want to tack the project. So, I mean, once it's approved on this list, the priority number kind of goes away, and this is the paving list. There's no, you know, priority anymore. It's, you know, this is the list that we're going to do.

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It's like whatever sign they're working on.

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Yes, that's what you're saying.

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And if they do split this contract into two,

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I'll probably split it, you know,

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north side and south side of town.

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One contract will be working north, one will be south.

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I do appreciate, um,

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op a detail that's been put into this.

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It certainly is a better understanding of,

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you know, the whole scoring issue

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and the evaluation criteria.

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I think that's very important.

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I would support the hiring of

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to inspectors. I think that's certainly a need that, you know, that's something that

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I think that we learned from last year in trying to achieve this. We didn't have enough

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personnel. And so I think that's a positive that's coming out of that.

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And like Mr. Brick was saying, that last year we did have an adjunct for our one handout providing

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the specter in case one of our specters was sick for the day or they had something. And

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So we probably will have actually a third aspect of something like that that would be on a floor that you know in case one of the

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My my staff would be able to make it that day or some reason that we'd be able to call to me on

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To get something out there to

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Myself would be out there too. Okay

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Councilor Sully

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So my question is

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The additional paving that you're looking at was

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roughly

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We $325,000?

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Yes.

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And does that include the cost of these additional?

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That is those 11 streets and highlighted in yellow that $324,000 is just those costs.

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If you were to lose the four streets, I was talking about it's roughly $40,000, little $140,000.

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So minus that from?

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So the additional inspectors is not within that?

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No, no.

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So the cost of the street to be the 324 minus the 45 support street from the move plus the roughly 70 grand to our digital cutters.

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And then so we're going to be at $300 or almost $400,000 increased in cost to the contract.

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So I appreciate looking at the asphalt components and the concrete components of the contract because I think that that's really important

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And to think about that, because I know that in the Evansdale portion of the Paving

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contract, there was some concern about curbs and so on.

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So that would be the concrete work that would be required.

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How are curbs handled, I guess, is that right?

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We do not do curbs, we're not fixing curbs as we're paving.

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Curbs, depending on, sometimes curbs are the problem, which is possibly because they're

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part of the sidewalk.

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Sometimes they're part of the roadway and then there are a responsibility.

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But if they are part of the sidewalk, you know, when the property is a precarious sidewalk there.

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If there's a planting strip, then it's not, is that correct?

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It's a little iffy, I guess.

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We'll let you handle that.

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And then the other question is, Dorsi's knob, once the slip is repaired,

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apparently the road in is called folly grain.

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and how does that fit in with the Paving Budget this year?

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I don't have anything in there for that.

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I mean, I don't know if when we pay for that cost,

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or the city pay for that cost of payment.

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But I recommend potentially doing it next year

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since they are already doing a slip project.

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They're going to be hauling in and out a lot of stone

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in the care of the road.

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I've talked to Mel previously about the road

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that from our Paving Project,

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We will be milling the streets, we'll have an excess amount of millings that we could use

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up there to put on the road to keep it for one season and then pay the next year as part

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of the payment project.

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This current right now is locked, that doesn't fit into this one on there.

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So at the end of the slip project the road could be made at least level because I think that

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was part of what you talked to Mel about was that the road be made level, even if it was

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more gravel than paving that it would be made level, so it was usable until next year's

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paving season.

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And then maybe could it next year under consideration to be earlier in the season just

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because that's a paid, that's a place where people want to come to the lodge and have a

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nice atmosphere.

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There would be coordination on that one just because there are events scheduled and we didn't

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work with them.

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Okay.

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This is the date.

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We said that, you know, they did this in this one contractor.

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Okay, thank you.

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How's her being?

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Yes.

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Damien, I so appreciate this.

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As you know, we've worked hard to get this extra funding and I appreciate your hard work to do this.

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Several of the issues that keep recurring are with cement streets but also with drainage.

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There's particular areas where as soon as the cement streets were put in,

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And the drainage wasn't right in the cement when Caddy want this and then there's several

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streets that don't have curbs and the drainage causes them to be cut up.

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So I'm very concerned about the dressing of that and some particular streets.

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I guess we all know all these streets and there's no doubt they all need to be paved there

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in bad condition.

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But the I'm very concerned about the drainage element in the coordination with a mug.

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For example, particularly this one series of streets, I watch the cement go like this

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while I'm wondering how it can be milled and-

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Is it Alicin Street?

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Alicin and actually South Point Circle.

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I'm concerned because it's never been quite done right.

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And so the street that was not done right, that I used it as an example in our community, was a cooperative effort with MOBA.

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It was the Oakfield subdivision. All those, several of those roads had to be dug up in MOBA, replaced the pipes underneath.

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I don't know what you call it. We did the original ballast or whatever it's called.

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And then put the asphalt on. I'm very concerned about putting good money after bad.

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What we'll do is, once this is list, we'll get with mob, we've got to provide this list of mobs and mobs currently out there looking at these streets and seeing what they need to do.

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We'll also work with public works to public works usually goes out beforehand.

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It takes care of issues like the houses repatch that needs replaced. They'll fix those.

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Any base repair, they'll get those fixed and they'll have them and they'll give us reports saying these streets are ready, these streets are ready.

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these streets are ready to go. And so in the time that when we put this out the bid, public

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works in Moberg are we out there working on their issues at the end of the deal?

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Great.

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Getting the streets ready for pay rate.

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Great. And then the second question is a little off the subject, but it's kind of a budget

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topic that's related to paving and so forth is this year he did like 230 great curb cuts

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and so forth, but as I walked in, there was a virtual pothole in their own sidewalk.

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How are we going to address the sidewalk issues this year like that?

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Is that going to be concurrent or separate?

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With the ADA, I said, not the ADA part, I know you need more ADA, but our sidewalk conditions.

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The sidewalk in front of City Hall put money into my budget this year to redo the sidewalk

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out there. Public works is going to page in the meantime. What are issues out there is

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there's a election involved underneath that sidewalk. So I've requested money in my

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budget to address that. So that one that's one I just thought of today but there's

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several other city sidewalks. So at the same time you're going to be working on

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the city sidewalks. If there's a city-owned sidewalk then yes we can work with public

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works to do those. If it's a private residence property then we try to send out

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letters ahead of time. With the project this side is a little hard to send out

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to get people to fix their so that's what's going to go for next years that we'll

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have a five-year tenure list that will be able to send out letters and people have

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you know two years notice that hey I need to fix my sidewalk because you're

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paying me here two years. So people have that notice you know years ahead of time

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that they need to start thinking about their sidewall vehicles are planning, whereas now

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we put together our paving list in December, and to get people out there. Last year we

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did send out letters and we had several people on Kingwood Street.

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We had about 15 people

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fix their sidewalks as part of a paving project last year, residents. But hopefully moving

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forward next year, we'll be able to plan a little more and have residents have a little

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notice and they'll be able to plan and, you know, make that good to big investment.

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You know, you four to five thousand dollars of picture sidewalk where you're

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asking, you know, I'll take your sidewalk isn't not to be able to, you know,

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30 minutes to slide that $4,000 down and get a contractor. So hopefully we move

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forward next year that people have that ability to start planning that.

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Okay, and then also moving forward next year you're considering some sort of

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program so that we could either bond it or work with people to have an

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an economy of scale for them to do this,

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so it's all even and done the same time.

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And that's something that, yeah, we have to find out

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what we want to do with sidewalks.

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It's been talked about for a while now

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with pedestrian safety board.

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How do we want to address sidewalks?

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Do we want to, as the city takes responsibility for them

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in charge of fee?

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Do we want to have an incentive program

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where we pay for half of it?

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There's been several things to wrap up

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but there's never anything, you know, a policy brought forth thing.

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This is how we're going to move forward sidewalks.

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And maybe, you know, I know Jeff was working on it for a while,

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but it never came through.

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And, you know, Glenn, you know, just busy keeping his head

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with the water with the amount of stuff he had to do.

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So I know he didn't have it as part of the priority.

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And so, you know, that might be something for Mr. Break, you know.

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You know, before I ask him.

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Do you have any questions?

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Just a couple of questions, so I understand this list and someone will hold on to this

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obviously.

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When I see ramp cost here, that's the ADA ramps we're talking about at dot com, okay.

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I noticed that Alonstreet is split into the two different blocks.

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Is that because the ramps were only required in the one block and not in the others, that

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why you wanted it?

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What happens?

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Call Creek Street?

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What happens?

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That's all paid.

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So we have to be milling on one side and once that we don't do it, we're addressing it to the problem.

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I said, okay, yeah, that's it, thank you.

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Any other questions or comments, Councillor Summings?

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So to follow up on the concrete streets, so will all concrete streets, once they've been milled, have the fiber in the asphalt?

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That will happen to all the concrete ones.

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That's really good issue.

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We'll try that.

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I'll see how it works.

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Sure.

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Thanks.

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Madam Mayor.

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One last clarification.

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The estimate of cost that you're estimate is opposed to what's the likelihood that we can get

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a lesser bid price.

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Last year was a, you know, it keep it really low, lower than expected because of the prevailing

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waves this year.

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The stores are prevailing.

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So, you know, I tried asking them on the high side, so I'm not, you know, a shock, but

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so I, you know, I think Vids will come in and probably lower than what I'm anticipating.

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I'm hoping.

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But, you know, we've had progress where we've thought things were going to come in and

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it's coming a lot higher.

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But I think there's going to be a lot of competition this year, both with the asphalt.

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I've been told that there's another asphalt plant that's wanting to get on this project,

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whereas in past we don't agree.

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So now there's another company's open up an asphalt plant and they want to be on this.

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So they actually have some competition with the asphalt.

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I know there's been several other contractors that have, or interested in this project,

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that traditionally haven't done paving, but they're trying to get into that market.

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So I think they're going to be paving or bidding on it.

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So, you know, I think there's going to be a lot of competition for this project.

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So, there might, it might not be that pretty, pretty good.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Councillor Kahn.

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So, last but not least, thank you so much.

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Some of the issues that have come up with the paving projects this year are signs, and

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I sent you this email to, signs, stop bars, and then hump markings.

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I don't really see that in this budget, but that'll be done by public works or another contractor.

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The speedhouse will be done by the contractor, it's part of there, but public works has,

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I spoke with public works director about that, if he wouldn't be included in the project and he said no, he would rather have his guys taken care of it.

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So, he's ordered material to take care of that and the stock bar should be in the house.

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stop bars, crosswalks.

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And so his guys, we've taken care of that.

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Once we pay, they'll be following behind us,

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putting those down.

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But when we do speed up, see, call in traffic

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responsible for those.

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Thanks.

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So that's part of the bid process.

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Yes.

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As there will be a bid on speed up,

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and that'll be all inclusive of the asphalt,

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the pavement markings, the labor.

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And so they'll give us a little some item for our speed up.

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Super, thanks.

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One thing I feel like we're still a little bit gray on here

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is the contract date.

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So...

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But all depends on what you guys, you know, approve this tonight,

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and I can get moving on it.

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And we'll start putting together a schedule

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and whether it's two contracts, one contract,

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it changes the schedule.

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So this contract doesn't start until July 1,

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or does it start now?

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We have to bid this out.

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And that's what we're going to do with the bidding process, which is about a month process.

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We'll have to advertise, advertise twice, we'll have a pre-construction meeting.

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We have a pretty good meeting and then we'll open bids, and that's usually about a month, three weeks to a month process. Once we do open bids, we'll have to come back to the city council for council to approve that, and depending on where that bid opening falls, we may have to wait a week to get on council meeting or two weeks depending on where it falls at because we have to meet the Thursday before the meeting deadline to get on that agenda. And so that's usually, you know, four to six weeks to get approval from council.

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Council, from, you know, advertising day one to approval to move forward.

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Once that will meet with the contractor, usually within that week of approval of the

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Council, we usually, that, you know, sometimes we meet with the contractor, kind of go forward,

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you know, get them the contract documents sign all that stuff.

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And then we'll start talking about start date.

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And then from that start date, they'll have, depending on, you know, what we do, whether

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it's, you know, two contracts, one contract, you know, anywhere between, you know, 120 days

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to, you know, 180 days to do the project. We'll set a deadline.

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But this contract could start in this fiscal year.

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Yes.

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It'll start in this fiscal year, but we completed in the next fiscal year.

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is there a reason this was a question asked in me last year? Is there a reason if they don't finish a street that they couldn't come back like in May of the following year and finish the rest of the street?

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Our goal is to finish. There were a project where we haven't finished. We finished this year past the deadline by two weeks but we finished.

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So, my goal is to, if this is the list that we're doing, this is the list we're doing.

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You know, my goal isn't to get halfway through where to come back the next year or

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do it.

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It's to get this whole thing done.

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Okay.

450
00:32:02,660 --> 00:32:03,160
Thank you.

451
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:04,620
Any other questions?

452
00:32:06,580 --> 00:32:07,980
So, do we need a motion?

453
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:08,680
I'm sorry.

454
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,680
To follow up on what the mayor just said.

455
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:21,820
But so what I'm not getting this vibe that you don't believe that we still might not

456
00:32:21,820 --> 00:32:22,860
have two contractors.

457
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,940
It's just a great investment that's what we have.

458
00:32:26,780 --> 00:32:32,220
And then, you know, again, are we just going to go with the Einstein theory and continue

459
00:32:32,220 --> 00:32:34,660
the fact that we're heading for all of them, that's for a different result.

460
00:32:35,300 --> 00:32:41,020
Because here we are, people in this town have always been putting up with us every year

461
00:32:41,020 --> 00:32:46,240
that we have construction going into when the students get back and one of the

462
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,360
requests from almost every person who lives in this town is not to have that

463
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:56,480
problem where the students come back and it sounds to me like that's not the

464
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:01,380
buyer here that's not something that you don't believe it's possible. I don't

465
00:33:01,380 --> 00:33:04,860
believe it's possible to get this stuff before July 1. So what we do is we break it

466
00:33:04,860 --> 00:33:10,020
I feel like how I have it on this thing is award streets or college area streets.

467
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:10,700
Okay.

468
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,720
We'll have two deadlines in our contract.

469
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:18,560
One is for the majority of the lawyers, the other ones for the student areas.

470
00:33:18,940 --> 00:33:24,360
They'll have to have those student areas done by August 1st or whatever, you know, two

471
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,240
weeks use of music, say two weeks of course school starts.

472
00:33:28,620 --> 00:33:29,940
They have those streets done.

473
00:33:29,940 --> 00:33:32,460
If they don't, then there's a look at the image associated with that.

474
00:33:34,900 --> 00:33:39,640
That means that when they start, once students leave, they can have those streets that are

475
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:40,260
working on them.

476
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:41,620
They have that time to be done.

477
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,160
If they're focused on that, once that's done, then they can move on to the outside streets.

478
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:52,340
The streets that are in the college areas of the city.

479
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:59,020
But I mean, we're looking at 12 miles of roadway that if you're on a highway,

480
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:10,940
You know, they can pay 12 miles pretty easily because they just put it off and they just lay out and they don't have to worry about driveways, they don't worry about traffic, they don't have to worry about anything, just they're like an asshole.

481
00:34:11,140 --> 00:34:21,820
But in the city, you know, you have to set up traffic control, you have to maintain that traffic control, you have to look at, you know, a deal with, there's a lot of things you have to deal with when you're out there,

482
00:34:21,820 --> 00:34:26,500
they're paving a city street versus, you know, in a highway and it takes time.

483
00:34:27,060 --> 00:34:28,760
So your best case scenario on this?

484
00:34:30,020 --> 00:34:32,120
Let's say everything wins with us.

485
00:34:32,540 --> 00:34:35,720
And Mr. Break allows you to take, have two contractors.

486
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,980
What is, in your opinion, what's the best date we could shoot for you?

487
00:34:43,020 --> 00:34:45,820
Well, I have to look at how we break it down.

488
00:34:46,220 --> 00:34:47,280
What's the north one side?

489
00:34:47,380 --> 00:34:50,240
Because we may have to say this contract is, you know,

490
00:34:50,240 --> 00:34:53,040
So, a certain time this contract has a little more time because they may have more streets

491
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:53,620
or less streets.

492
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,580
On call, then we can get to college streets done by the time the college students get

493
00:34:58,580 --> 00:34:58,780
back.

494
00:34:59,020 --> 00:35:03,300
I'm not confident that we can get the remaining streets done by the time the college gets

495
00:35:03,300 --> 00:35:03,640
to get back.

496
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:11,120
There may be construction to August with those streets.

497
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:12,920
September, October.

498
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:13,980
Not that far.

499
00:35:14,100 --> 00:35:14,720
I don't think that far.

500
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:19,300
I mean, with this year, we did eight miles of streets and I'd say we could have cut a

501
00:35:19,300 --> 00:35:23,640
But we could have cut a month and a half off of that contract and got a month and a half

502
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:23,880
sooner.

503
00:35:25,140 --> 00:35:31,560
So we're adding four more miles to the contract and I still think we could have get this

504
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:32,580
done in the same amount of time.

505
00:35:35,060 --> 00:35:43,840
So I think we finished, I'd never, never refurbished, yeah, so I think we could have cut a month

506
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:44,880
and a half off of that contract.

507
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:51,960
So, I still think, if there's two contracts, I think we can cut more time off, but we just

508
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,780
have to sit down and look that and schedule it, and I want you, so you'll give counsel

509
00:35:55,780 --> 00:35:57,480
the expectations once you're in.

510
00:35:57,940 --> 00:36:02,920
And as part of the big process, two, we're going to request when they're sending their bids to submit

511
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:03,560
a schedule, too.

512
00:36:07,860 --> 00:36:12,980
We'll go through an exercise to see what we can, what we think is a reasonable time to

513
00:36:12,980 --> 00:36:17,660
get this contract done and then we'll have the contract date and contract as that you know that date.

514
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:19,260
Thank you.

515
00:36:19,380 --> 00:36:19,560
Okay.

516
00:36:20,460 --> 00:36:24,320
So, do we need a motion to accept this proposed list?

517
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:25,600
You for proof.

518
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:26,420
Second.

519
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:27,480
Second.

520
00:36:27,860 --> 00:36:29,060
Any further discussion?

521
00:36:29,820 --> 00:36:30,840
Your questions or comments?

522
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:32,940
Hearing none?

523
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:33,800
I'll call the roll.

524
00:36:34,060 --> 00:36:34,400
My name?

525
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:34,900
Yes.

526
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:35,980
50 Miracle Wreckies?

527
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:36,240
Yes.

528
00:36:36,460 --> 00:36:36,920
Miss New Jersey?

529
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:37,180
Yes.

530
00:36:37,180 --> 00:36:42,780
Jimmy Serene. Yes, J. Redman. Yes, Nancy Gamm. Yes, and that passes 7-0.

531
00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:45,000
So, a motion to adjourn? So moved.

532
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,160
Second. Second.

533
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,100
It's out of the jacks.

534
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:49,240
Thank

535
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:51,960
you.

536
00:36:53,180 --> 00:36:54,460
Yes.

537
00:57:51,060 --> 00:58:00,120
The working town city, the city council committee of the whole meeting for Tuesday, February 28th.

538
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:15,180
The committee of the whole meetings, the working density council are intended to provide an opportunity for council to receive information, ask questions, and identify policy options in an informal setting.

539
00:58:15,180 --> 00:58:18,440
No official action is taken at these meetings.

540
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:26,520
At this time, I will ask you to sell and sell it to your cell phones, and we'll begin

541
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,860
this meeting with presentations.

542
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:34,080
Our first presentation is the Botanical Garden presentation.

543
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,520
Bill Mills, executive director.

544
00:58:40,830 --> 00:58:45,770
Actually, I'm Bill Johnson, the president of the board, and I'll introduce Bill in a second

545
00:58:45,770 --> 00:58:45,990
here.

546
00:58:46,850 --> 00:58:51,130
So thank you all for the opportunity to be here tonight.

547
00:58:51,310 --> 00:58:59,710
I had the opportunity to address council a couple of months ago in regard to the execution

548
00:58:59,710 --> 00:59:06,030
at that time of a new 50 year lease for the property and would just like to express

549
00:59:06,730 --> 00:59:10,810
thanks on behalf of the board to council for approving that.

550
00:59:11,410 --> 00:59:15,350
That's really going to put up great opportunities at the garden.

551
00:59:15,750 --> 00:59:22,310
One thing I mentioned at the time that I was here previously was that we have over the

552
00:59:22,310 --> 00:59:27,550
past year been engaged in a master planning process that we think is going to lead to

553
00:59:27,550 --> 00:59:36,210
tremendous investment in new infrastructure, new facilities and new opportunities for activities

554
00:59:36,210 --> 00:59:36,930
and events.

555
00:59:36,930 --> 00:59:44,510
at the garden. So we wanted to take this opportunity to just bring you up to date on what those plans actually look like.

556
00:59:45,030 --> 00:59:55,490
And also very excited to introduce to those of you who haven't met him. Bill Mills, who's executive director who's been with us now for 11 months.

557
00:59:55,490 --> 00:59:59,990
At the beginning of this year, we were able to bring Bill on at the...

558
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,980
Actually full time, thanks to a grant we received from the Stanley Smith horticultural trust. So just another step in making the botanical garden a real institution and contributed to the community. So with that, I'll introduce Bill. Talk about the master one. Good evening. And thank you for this opportunity. And thanks for your support all this time. And we

559
01:00:29,980 --> 01:00:32,060
we hope to have your support in the future.

560
01:00:33,940 --> 01:00:37,020
I'm gonna just walk you through our master plan

561
01:00:37,900 --> 01:00:39,720
and if you wanna go to the next.

562
01:00:50,820 --> 01:00:53,440
The master plan for the Tannic Garden

563
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,800
was a collaborative effort with the community

564
01:00:57,460 --> 01:01:00,020
and our board members and lots of other people,

565
01:01:00,180 --> 01:01:02,380
we had the held surets to kind of figure out

566
01:01:02,380 --> 01:01:04,620
where the garden needed to move in the future.

567
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:10,760
This is just a little diagram. That area there is our lower parking lot which currently

568
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:18,720
exists and these are the conceptual renderings for that area. You can move to the next slide please.

569
01:01:19,940 --> 01:01:26,760
This is our entire campus. We currently enter here off of Tyrone Road and the proposed entrance

570
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:31,980
will shift over here and the little cottage which the garden bought with a couple acres

571
01:01:31,980 --> 01:01:36,600
of land which is certainly there is probably going to be the home for an 8,000 square foot

572
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:42,700
welcome center which we are very lucky to have a foundation that's very interested in building

573
01:01:42,700 --> 01:01:50,620
that for us. A large event lawn will be created down here in what is currently woods and we see a

574
01:01:50,620 --> 01:01:56,160
strong connection between this event lawn say for a wedding or for a concert and for receptions to be

575
01:01:56,160 --> 01:02:01,960
held up there afterwards and we look forward to this building being a serious stream of revenue

576
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,180
before the garden, so that we've become sustaining.

577
01:02:06,780 --> 01:02:09,560
And this, for those of, you know, this is Imperial East

578
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:10,840
over this area here.

579
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:15,400
And we will be reflecting part of the basin.

580
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:17,760
So what used to be the Morgantown reservoir,

581
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,420
will once again become the body of water.

582
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:21,860
And we've been working with the Army Corps

583
01:02:21,860 --> 01:02:23,220
of Engineers on that.

584
01:02:23,820 --> 01:02:25,120
The next slide, please.

585
01:02:26,980 --> 01:02:28,440
So this is up in Tyro mode.

586
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:35,300
We're going to move the entrance over parking for those if you've ever come to a big event

587
01:02:35,300 --> 01:02:41,020
is a major issue which is why our request to the city is for working on more parking

588
01:02:41,020 --> 01:02:43,880
on which I'll show you that where that's going to be going in.

589
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:48,900
It's not exactly sure whether the building is going to be here or over here

590
01:02:48,900 --> 01:02:52,360
but we're working with architects on that process there.

591
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:55,320
Next slide, please.

592
01:02:55,320 --> 01:03:01,220
So this is the event lawn, which will be right on the edge of the expanded reservoir.

593
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:08,080
And it will be a great place to hold concerts, theater performances, community events,

594
01:03:08,380 --> 01:03:10,600
and weddings and receptions.

595
01:03:11,140 --> 01:03:15,340
We're creating parking in a series of pods so that we don't look like Walmart.

596
01:03:16,900 --> 01:03:20,540
And we want the place to be as wouldsy as possible.

597
01:03:20,540 --> 01:03:27,560
So you can see there'll be, there's a pod there and there are other pods further on a slide please.

598
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:34,860
So this is the current lower parking lot. There'll be a series of terraces and walls.

599
01:03:35,540 --> 01:03:39,160
And they may not look like this. This is kind of just more about use of space.

600
01:03:39,420 --> 01:03:44,920
These walls might be curved and we're talking about what that will all look like.

601
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:51,360
But the main access of this garden will be a long view shed that will look down upon the water

602
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:57,600
And these lawns will also be able to be used for different kinds of events small concerts and things like that

603
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:02,200
And then there'll be a series of different kinds of theme gardens throughout that

604
01:04:03,780 --> 01:04:09,760
And over here we're going to take water from the rise of war this is a it kind of an

605
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:14,560
an intermittent stream right now it's running strongly but it dries up in the summer time

606
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:19,500
but we want to keep that running partly to create white sound for the event one which can

607
01:04:19,500 --> 01:04:24,840
help buffer the sound of the rifle range that we share the neighborhood with.

608
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:26,740
The next slide please.

609
01:04:28,620 --> 01:04:30,260
This is our current home.

610
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:35,680
This is the welcome center that used to be the WVU solar house that was shipped to California

611
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:40,760
ship back to campus and then gifted to us which we put back together at great

612
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:46,040
banks and great cost but it has created a really a wonderful soul for this

613
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:51,160
garden. It's where we host all kinds of events, Thunder Hazard events, Classroom

614
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:58,200
events, summer camp for kids on and on. It's been a real in fact we had a meeting

615
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:02,400
right before we came here in that facility and next week we're going to be putting

616
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:07,660
down a beautiful hickory floors and it will be quite a wonderful place for small events.

617
01:05:09,300 --> 01:05:16,060
We are looking at, we have an outdoor space and an indoor space that complement one

618
01:05:16,060 --> 01:05:16,440
another.

619
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:21,700
So, eventually, we are going to have a number of venues, so on one given day, we might

620
01:05:21,700 --> 01:05:24,760
have four different events happening in this garden.

621
01:05:26,260 --> 01:05:27,000
Next slide please.

622
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:30,460
This is kind of an overview.

623
01:05:30,460 --> 01:05:37,340
you, the welcome center would be right up here, the expanded basin, water will come in

624
01:05:37,340 --> 01:05:42,620
from Jones Run into a new pool here, and this pool really acts like a reservoir.

625
01:05:42,900 --> 01:05:48,060
So in the summertime, say in August and September when we are incredibly warm, that will be

626
01:05:48,060 --> 01:05:53,180
able to pull water down and run up through a series of wetlands here so that this doesn't

627
01:05:53,180 --> 01:05:54,420
become a stagnant pool.

628
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:59,720
That was a real concern, and we've done some studies on making sure that we do have enough

629
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:04,200
water and that we didn't need to use water from tibs room, which would be a much more

630
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:05,000
heroic event.

631
01:06:05,380 --> 01:06:10,060
There'll be a new boardwalk here and there'll be boardwalks that go out through the

632
01:06:10,060 --> 01:06:14,400
wetlands and a boardwalk here, which will be right at water level so children will be

633
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:20,440
able to touch the water and have kind of wonderful experiential times there.

634
01:06:22,140 --> 01:06:23,600
The next slide please.

635
01:06:25,340 --> 01:06:27,980
This is obviously a side view.

636
01:06:27,980 --> 01:06:33,460
this is the the major event on this

637
01:06:36,820 --> 01:06:40,760
is

638
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:57,840
the pavilion which will be really important architecturally

639
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:03,460
as and once again you can kind of see the just the gradual lay in the land we're trying to

640
01:07:03,460 --> 01:07:11,260
save as many trees as possible and use the natural angles of the property and when you walk out

641
01:07:11,260 --> 01:07:16,300
the woods. You can just see where that really plays nicely there. And this, as you can see here,

642
01:07:16,420 --> 01:07:21,420
these are the gardens in the core of the garden, and you can see the series of terraces that will

643
01:07:21,420 --> 01:07:27,740
take place. And once again, the long, long that will open up the access for a view of the pool.

644
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:30,260
The next slide, please.

645
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:37,640
These are more side views, just to show you the wetland uses and the different

646
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:44,280
expanded ponds down in this area here. The big pond will, when you drive down

647
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:49,920
into the garden, it will really become a very significant reflecting pool, so

648
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,200
when you're looking down from the back of the visitor center, you'll see the

649
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:57,100
sky reflecting in that night. You'll see lights in there as well.

650
01:08:05,780 --> 01:08:07,600
The next slide

651
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:13,460
There are two. There's also a membership form. I think it brought you into the member of the bar, and you love that.

652
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:21,700
But there's also the list of classes so you know what kind of events we have happening in there.

653
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:26,860
And we have a new employee who will be starting.

654
01:08:26,860 --> 01:08:33,900
So we'll be using the 60% education programs to master

655
01:08:50,990 --> 01:08:54,310
plan is about a $15 million investment.

656
01:08:56,050 --> 01:09:00,330
We have the funder for the law and for the building.

657
01:09:01,210 --> 01:09:05,650
We're talking many millions of dollars that they're talking to us about contributing.

658
01:09:05,990 --> 01:09:12,050
So if it's a major economic investment in the city of Washington and we find that we have

659
01:09:12,050 --> 01:09:16,210
a tremendous number of people who are coming from out of state, sometimes surprisingly because

660
01:09:16,210 --> 01:09:20,670
they're like, well, we're the garden. We say, well, they're conceptual at this point.

661
01:09:21,270 --> 01:09:24,950
But we said, we have incredibly beautiful trails that you can come and see.

662
01:09:26,990 --> 01:09:33,290
Obviously, one additional question for me is, is there a timeline on this? It's a very attractive

663
01:09:33,790 --> 01:09:38,350
presentation. Thank you. There is a time. I'm hoping this is reals

664
01:09:39,290 --> 01:09:43,930
in the sky, but I'm hoping in two years we might think about breaking ground for the

665
01:09:43,930 --> 01:09:44,690
visitor center.

666
01:09:45,510 --> 01:09:51,110
The parking, the expansion of the parking is going to start probably this summer.

667
01:09:52,130 --> 01:09:56,510
We are renovating the upper parking lot to make it more aesthetically pleasing.

668
01:09:57,010 --> 01:09:58,950
We're expanding the gardens there.

669
01:09:59,690 --> 01:10:06,310
We have a couple that gave us a very significant amount of money to put a nice garden next to

670
01:10:06,310 --> 01:10:10,210
the welcome centers will be actually do have some some landscape there too.

671
01:10:10,710 --> 01:10:16,590
So I would say overall it's a ten-year project because we have we have to go out and seek

672
01:10:16,590 --> 01:10:22,510
where obviously these findings and we're looking at it not as a Morgan town centric.

673
01:10:23,030 --> 01:10:26,690
They were looking at it as the state but kind of part of it.

674
01:10:27,290 --> 01:10:28,070
They're ambitious.

675
01:10:28,850 --> 01:10:29,310
It is.

676
01:10:29,590 --> 01:10:30,250
That's what we're selling.

677
01:10:31,050 --> 01:10:36,150
Part of why I think this is important is if you speak with the Convention Visitors Bureau

678
01:10:36,150 --> 01:10:42,030
So they talk about all of the sites that are in Preston County, which I love, and it's very nice that we have them.

679
01:10:42,430 --> 01:10:48,190
But I think it's very important that we look at sites near Morgantown.

680
01:10:48,670 --> 01:10:52,770
We have a lot of visitors and it's nice if there are things for them to do before and

681
01:10:52,770 --> 01:10:56,570
after they come here for other events, it helps with people staying overnight in hotels.

682
01:10:57,170 --> 01:11:03,570
It helps with residents' quality of life, if they can come there and come to some of the activities.

683
01:11:03,570 --> 01:11:13,070
There are also putting grass turf on the event lawn so that will be in a nicer shape and able to be used now.

684
01:11:13,930 --> 01:11:14,050
Correct.

685
01:11:14,230 --> 01:11:15,690
Is that within the next year or something?

686
01:11:15,690 --> 01:11:18,890
The smaller the two event lawns we have to have complete by fall.

687
01:11:19,470 --> 01:11:26,610
So it's becoming more operational with more things that are available now to then be able to head into this plan.

688
01:11:26,610 --> 01:11:33,010
And so this is not kind of, from me looking at it as coming to some of the events into the board meetings,

689
01:11:33,350 --> 01:11:37,470
I can see that they're doing the steps to get there, which is wonderful.

690
01:11:37,850 --> 01:11:43,370
When you see a presentation and then you see that it's being operationalized, it's very, very important.

691
01:11:43,450 --> 01:11:49,170
And we were talking beforehand about this multiplier of, you know, they have the city property,

692
01:11:49,170 --> 01:11:54,290
and then they're working so hard at finding their own funding to improve it.

693
01:11:54,290 --> 01:11:59,450
So, it's a wonderful model for us if we have other opportunities like this to have a

694
01:11:59,450 --> 01:12:02,390
nonprofit that works so hard at putting it together.

695
01:12:05,270 --> 01:12:11,910
I just wanted to say thank you so much, I always believe that the Botanic Garden was just

696
01:12:11,910 --> 01:12:18,550
a magical place and so many people, including my own family, that's the first place you want

697
01:12:18,550 --> 01:12:19,770
to go when they come to town.

698
01:12:19,990 --> 01:12:20,450
We like that.

699
01:12:21,830 --> 01:12:27,090
And even I was just thinking our when we did our city managers search our

700
01:12:27,090 --> 01:12:32,570
consultant that was one of the first places she went to coax. I thought that

701
01:12:32,570 --> 01:12:36,110
was was really interesting. So thank you for your vision for the future.

702
01:12:36,230 --> 01:12:40,690
You're welcome. And I just wanted to say last year when we had our fundraiser which

703
01:12:40,690 --> 01:12:46,090
is a thick down dinner for 240 people in that environment was pretty special

704
01:12:46,090 --> 01:12:49,790
thing. So when you see that advertised for this coming year you should come

705
01:12:49,790 --> 01:12:51,690
and I'm enjoying the rockest crowd.

706
01:12:52,590 --> 01:12:53,610
Thank you, have a good evening.

707
01:12:54,270 --> 01:12:54,570
Thank you.

708
01:12:54,590 --> 01:12:55,510
Thank you very much.

709
01:12:57,850 --> 01:13:00,390
Our next presentation is Dr. Smith,

710
01:13:00,990 --> 01:13:02,150
one county health department,

711
01:13:02,730 --> 01:13:05,950
clean interior data updates.

712
01:13:10,020 --> 01:13:11,820
Heaving, thank you for having me.

713
01:13:11,940 --> 01:13:16,120
And I want to say that with health department,

714
01:13:16,340 --> 01:13:18,760
certainly appreciate the continued financial support

715
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:20,220
that you'll have given us through the years.

716
01:13:20,940 --> 01:13:25,420
I have the one public service announcement to make.

717
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:28,000
Influenza is here in the county,

718
01:13:28,060 --> 01:13:30,300
coming pretty hard in a lot of places.

719
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:32,920
So it's still not too late to get a flu shot.

720
01:13:33,480 --> 01:13:35,040
CDC recommends that you can get one

721
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:36,600
all the way up through flu seasons.

722
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:39,260
So if you have it, give us a call, get you hooked up.

723
01:13:41,660 --> 01:13:45,960
My predecessors informed me that the clean-endor regulation

724
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:47,980
that we adopted for the county,

725
01:13:47,980 --> 01:13:54,640
we live really stole from the city and so the foundation should be something

726
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:59,660
that you all are quite familiar with. I have, I didn't bring enough for everybody

727
01:13:59,660 --> 01:14:06,780
but if you want to go to our website which is www.monmo and chd for

728
01:14:06,780 --> 01:14:12,920
county health department.org you can go to environmental and download one of

729
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:29,700
This is the sign copy that I would point out to you that on the very back page of that

730
01:14:29,700 --> 01:14:39,320
one, it started in 1992, so this February marked the 25th year, and so Michael, congratulations

731
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:45,880
to Morty Town for having the foresight and the ability to move forward with that.

732
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:51,120
West Virginia, unfortunately, as our Governor points out, we are 50th and so many categories.

733
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:52,980
And smoking is one of them.

734
01:14:53,140 --> 01:14:58,480
The rest of the nation continues to decrease its smoky rates, West Virginia goes up.

735
01:14:58,480 --> 01:14:59,720
we have about 26

736
01:15:10,580 --> 01:15:28,360
So, we looked at this clean indoor air regulation this year, and a couple of things had come up. When it was first started, as mentioned, it was lifted and put into a document. And then it was revisited.

737
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:43,240
I'm from 92 to 99 in the 99 to 2012 and at that last revision the basically there was

738
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:49,960
no smoking indoors but a couple of exceptions were noted and that was because the members

739
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:55,660
of the Board of Health did not want to disrupt any existing businesses and so there were

740
01:15:55,660 --> 01:16:03,640
So at that time, hook a lounge and some cigar bars in the bingo hall, places where smoking

741
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:04,500
was allowed.

742
01:16:05,420 --> 01:16:11,740
Our environmental services folks who visit each and every public building in the county

743
01:16:11,740 --> 01:16:16,680
say that the bingo is, you know, there's really not a lot of smoking and then you had to have

744
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:17,740
a hundred cards.

745
01:16:18,380 --> 01:16:25,640
There were no existing cigar bars because in order to have that you couldn't serve

746
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:31,260
food. Sir food you couldn't smoke, so that sort of that all. And the existing hook-a-bar

747
01:16:31,260 --> 01:16:39,000
in Oregon Town Club. So there was no reason to have those exceptions open. The other

748
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:46,600
thing that has occurred since the last draft in 2012 is now the creation of vaping or

749
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:54,260
the electronic cigarette. And we see that the most growing population of that are hospital

750
01:16:54,260 --> 01:17:00,040
kids and there's a body of evidence that's growing that inhaling the metallic fragments

751
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:03,540
and all the chemicals in that certainly not going to be good for you as well.

752
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:12,160
So we took the opportunity to add some language that was not in here before about the vaping

753
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:12,760
type of thing.

754
01:17:13,060 --> 01:17:18,180
So we enclosed the electronic cigarette parts in there with a little bit of language about

755
01:17:18,180 --> 01:17:24,400
how that the FDA has thought so seriously about that they now control all of the electronic

756
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:24,900
cigarettes.

757
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:32,760
We struck the language of the cigar bar and the hooker bar and then added a little bit

758
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:38,740
of additional language about electronic cigarettes because you know anything we're saying, we're

759
01:17:38,740 --> 01:17:43,400
saying several times, and then finally the bingo operations were removed.

760
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:52,140
So, as it stands, our rules and regulations make us post anything that we discuss at the

761
01:17:52,140 --> 01:17:58,500
Board of Health has to go before the, be posted in the courthouse for 30 days for comment.

762
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:06,240
I'm pleased to announce that despite previous years where here it was pretty raucous at

763
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:12,980
times during that, we only had two comments that were made on the Clean Endor air regulations

764
01:18:12,980 --> 01:18:15,900
and they were both very positive in support.

765
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:21,260
So it ended its posting at the county

766
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:27,280
was voted on and took effect February 1st.

767
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:29,160
Am I a good calling here for the newspaper,

768
01:18:29,180 --> 01:18:31,620
got one of the hovel presses last time

769
01:18:31,620 --> 01:18:33,400
and announced it in the newspaper.

770
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:37,160
So we are open for questions.

771
01:18:37,380 --> 01:18:38,280
Any questions about them?

772
01:18:38,380 --> 01:18:39,100
I'm happy to entertain.

773
01:18:40,300 --> 01:18:41,420
Are there any questions?

774
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:46,580
And I'll pass this around that has the changes in there.

775
01:18:46,940 --> 01:18:50,220
Some are struck out and some are just added, but they're all yellow now.

776
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:55,340
So just to be clear, no vaping and indoors?

777
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:56,240
Correct.

778
01:18:57,900 --> 01:19:04,600
Yeah, if it's indoors, and it's a public, I should say, you certainly can do what you want

779
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:06,220
to do when you're hungry, perhaps you're hungry.

780
01:19:09,820 --> 01:19:17,660
My question follows that line so I just don't remember and it's not in my package.

781
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:25,080
I was put in the necessary terrain we had to add in the clauses to our ordinance to reflect this.

782
01:19:25,440 --> 01:19:28,580
This is now different to our existing ordinance.

783
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:31,420
We could certainly bring back the ordinance to update our code.

784
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:37,920
So kind of what you're asking here is for us to possibly bring back our ordinance and

785
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:40,360
that data code to match the county code.

786
01:19:40,780 --> 01:19:42,000
I would not be so bold.

787
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:45,620
But I am.

788
01:19:45,780 --> 01:19:46,120
But I am.

789
01:19:46,480 --> 01:19:47,800
It's not in the middle of it.

790
01:19:48,900 --> 01:19:49,340
Okay.

791
01:19:50,260 --> 01:19:50,980
So what would he like?

792
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:59,420
I think what you would like is for us to ask the city attorney, thinking, to bring back

793
01:19:59,420 --> 01:20:06,820
ordinance and adjusted to match. I think it would be uniform. Well, thank you very much

794
01:20:06,820 --> 01:20:10,840
for taking the time to do the chance to talk to you the other day and I just really appreciate

795
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:18,380
your work on behalf of our city and their county. Councillor Sillink. So apparently turn

796
01:20:18,380 --> 01:20:28,080
about a spare play if you have matched us for now. You can take my dress. You can take my dress.

797
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:34,220
That's wonderful, and then will there be some sort of public education component?

798
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:41,500
Something to let people know that because I have seen people inside venues here, such

799
01:20:41,500 --> 01:20:48,100
as our met theater they for, I mean, you definitely see that, and I think sometimes people

800
01:20:48,100 --> 01:20:52,140
just don't know that that's equivalent to smoking, and now we're making it explicit.

801
01:20:52,140 --> 01:21:02,620
So it would be nice in a friendly way to coach people that, number one, there's a reason that it's dangerous, and then number two, that it's not allowed.

802
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:05,420
Your points are spot on.

803
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:12,820
We don't, unfortunately, in the health department under existing regulations have any way of enforcing anything.

804
01:21:14,020 --> 01:21:21,060
Our environmental folks will go out at night to bars where people will still, you know.

805
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:25,400
smoke and try to, you know, enlighten folks.

806
01:21:25,980 --> 01:21:27,760
It's been in the newspaper, it's been posted.

807
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:30,780
It's an uphill battle to try and get people not to,

808
01:21:30,940 --> 01:21:32,900
but the education will continue.

809
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:40,420
So it might be nice to see if there's some sort of

810
01:21:40,420 --> 01:21:42,900
partnership that could be made, say, with the University

811
01:21:42,900 --> 01:21:49,100
or some other entity to make posters or, I know,

812
01:21:49,100 --> 01:21:54,960
posters are old fashioned, but to make posters or to put something online or to make short

813
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:59,460
public announcements, something that would have a little creativity to it that could

814
01:21:59,460 --> 01:22:02,060
bolster whatever efforts the health department would normally.

815
01:22:03,020 --> 01:22:06,240
I don't know how we could make those contacts, but we could maybe help with that.

816
01:22:07,060 --> 01:22:10,120
I'd be happy to entertain any of those thoughts.

817
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:12,360
We work pretty closely with the School of Public Health.

818
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:14,280
Perfect.

819
01:22:14,740 --> 01:22:14,840
Yeah.

820
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:20,700
They're often looking for internships and projects, so maybe we could have that for a semester

821
01:22:20,700 --> 01:22:21,020
too.

822
01:22:21,300 --> 01:22:31,480
Actually, what we find is fairly enticing to those leadership roles and to their students

823
01:22:31,480 --> 01:22:39,480
are the little YouTube videos, and we've been housing those on our website and we even

824
01:22:39,480 --> 01:22:40,720
have a phone app in the alley.

825
01:22:41,460 --> 01:22:46,780
So we have a public information officer that you could send things to so we could also put them up on the city website

826
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:48,120
Absolutely

827
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:53,940
Oh, I'm sorry

828
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:56,720
Thanks for being here, Dr. Smith

829
01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:02,860
Always a pleasure to work with you. I work with you for a long time at the hospital and nice to see you again

830
01:23:02,860 --> 01:23:09,720
I think this body is ready and willing to support what you got here and we'll make the changes

831
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:11,000
Thanks.

832
01:23:11,740 --> 01:23:12,420
There you go.

833
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:14,260
Thank you again for your presentation.

834
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:14,800
All right.

835
01:23:14,940 --> 01:23:15,360
Appreciate it.

836
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:15,600
Good night.

837
01:23:16,480 --> 01:23:17,360
Thank you.

838
01:23:17,620 --> 01:23:18,080
Thank you.

839
01:23:19,100 --> 01:23:19,840
No, I'm OK.

840
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:20,380
Thank you.

841
01:23:20,940 --> 01:23:21,860
All right.

842
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:26,180
Next, we have a presentation from Clear Fibre.

843
01:23:26,460 --> 01:23:29,120
A proposed Fibre Internet service.

844
01:23:39,550 --> 01:23:40,290
You're going to have to move again.

845
01:23:40,950 --> 01:23:42,790
He's going to just have a project manager.

846
01:23:43,170 --> 01:23:44,130
He's going to pass these around.

847
01:23:44,230 --> 01:23:44,910
Oh, OK.

848
01:23:45,910 --> 01:23:46,990
He's just going to have to have it a PowerPoint.

849
01:23:47,510 --> 01:23:48,230
Basically, this printout.

850
01:23:48,230 --> 01:23:52,710
Yeah, this gives me a little bit of a little bit of the weather as well, but I originally

851
01:23:52,710 --> 01:24:00,810
started to come here and talk with the city engineer, Damian, about the things too in

852
01:24:00,810 --> 01:24:04,130
that meeting, just about building fiber optics in Morgantown.

853
01:24:05,010 --> 01:24:08,410
And fiber optics is your best kind of internet connection areas.

854
01:24:09,210 --> 01:24:12,450
And so as everyone, as you can see, it all passed out, we're going to go through all this.

855
01:24:12,450 --> 01:24:19,810
but our model is building by demand and what that means is that we don't just build

856
01:24:19,810 --> 01:24:24,530
everywhere and expect people to come. We actually building and construct our

857
01:24:24,530 --> 01:24:29,410
internet service to areas where people want the most and I'll highlight those

858
01:24:29,410 --> 01:24:36,210
also in this presentation as well but as you guys know probably have currently

859
01:24:36,210 --> 01:24:40,250
there's really only two main service providers for residential which is where our

860
01:24:40,250 --> 01:24:45,670
He is in Morgantown. One is Comcast, or it's been any of the other is Frontier.

861
01:24:47,290 --> 01:24:52,190
You know, in a lot of areas, Frontier is somewhat slower in the other areas.

862
01:24:52,790 --> 01:24:55,410
Spinnie does have the speed, but does have some price points.

863
01:24:56,090 --> 01:25:01,590
There are sometimes higher. And you know, what we're trying to do here is bring both the speed

864
01:25:01,590 --> 01:25:05,230
and not in reliability, but also the cost.

865
01:25:06,190 --> 01:25:12,810
and just flip into the second page of this, kind of gives a little bit of an overview about the company,

866
01:25:14,710 --> 01:25:20,470
and I myself moved here, I have a baby on the way and the wife that lives here as well,

867
01:25:20,730 --> 01:25:26,030
and we really wanted to start something in, work in town, and we actually have started,

868
01:25:26,530 --> 01:25:30,950
not in more of a time, we've started in Star City, constructing underground biorethropics.

869
01:25:30,950 --> 01:25:36,070
So this whole proposal you'll see here today is for us to get an agreement together and

870
01:25:37,010 --> 01:25:42,710
With the city market down to the permits to do underground fully 100% underground fiber optics

871
01:25:42,710 --> 01:25:49,030
So we won't be adding new poles or attaching to new poles or anything like that. I mean, there's a big reason for it

872
01:25:49,030 --> 01:25:54,650
Also on the slide too, you'll see that you know the people that we have on board such as project manager

873
01:25:55,270 --> 01:25:59,210
Has been doing this a very long time for them water lines sewer lines

874
01:25:59,210 --> 01:26:04,190
We have people in the team that work for notable companies such as Google Fiber, you've

875
01:26:04,190 --> 01:26:05,070
never heard of that company.

876
01:26:07,510 --> 01:26:09,370
And everyone has 100% here local.

877
01:26:10,390 --> 01:26:12,090
So there's not like outsourced anything.

878
01:26:13,350 --> 01:26:15,970
But for the next page, well, why is Fiber so important?

879
01:26:16,630 --> 01:26:20,090
If you don't know if Fiber is the best kind of connection you can get, there's another

880
01:26:20,090 --> 01:26:21,530
better kind of connection right now.

881
01:26:22,370 --> 01:26:26,550
The other companies are either using old phone lines or they have their coax cable system,

882
01:26:26,930 --> 01:26:28,330
which has been around for years as well.

883
01:26:28,330 --> 01:26:33,090
So it just doesn't quite have the throughput and the capacity

884
01:26:33,090 --> 01:26:34,610
that a fiber connection can have.

885
01:26:35,190 --> 01:26:39,470
And so, as it says here, you can download an HD movie

886
01:26:39,470 --> 01:26:40,310
in seven seconds.

887
01:26:40,310 --> 01:26:43,530
You can turn on Netflix within a second pops up.

888
01:26:43,710 --> 01:26:45,690
I mean, these are things that people want in the area,

889
01:26:46,210 --> 01:26:48,450
and you'll see here at the bottom of the slide

890
01:26:48,450 --> 01:26:51,150
that there's over 1,000 customers in Washington alone

891
01:26:51,150 --> 01:26:52,870
that have already signed up for our service.

892
01:26:53,530 --> 01:26:55,970
And they're just, I would say, patiently waiting.

893
01:26:55,970 --> 01:27:02,030
that might not be the correct card, but they are eagerly waiting for us to get a permit

894
01:27:02,030 --> 01:27:07,330
together and agreement together with the City of Mortgantown to start this construction.

895
01:27:08,770 --> 01:27:13,030
And you'll see, like I said, we've already started this in Star City and are building all

896
01:27:13,030 --> 01:27:17,030
underground platforms to the home, many are loving it currently as well.

897
01:27:19,810 --> 01:27:23,450
The construction part, which is probably the biggest part and most questions that arise

898
01:27:23,450 --> 01:27:30,390
is what does that consist of? Just like any other utility company, we would go along the right

899
01:27:30,390 --> 01:27:37,290
of ways of the city streets, whether that's 25% or 15% or wherever that consist of, and we would

900
01:27:37,290 --> 01:27:43,170
call on the locates, take one one before you dig, you know, dominion, water companies, everyone else

901
01:27:43,170 --> 01:27:48,790
comes, they mark their lines, and we then navigate around those lines, not hitting them. Now that could

902
01:27:48,790 --> 01:27:55,430
be anywhere from, as it mentions, two feet to seven feet in the ground. Obviously, we don't

903
01:27:55,430 --> 01:27:58,570
want to hit a line and they don't want to hit a line, so it's very important that we get those

904
01:27:58,570 --> 01:28:04,130
low-pays. And by the way, you have to do it anyway, as you probably know. Being that everything is

905
01:28:04,130 --> 01:28:11,850
underground, that means there's not an aesthetic issue in the area where we put up another telephone

906
01:28:11,850 --> 01:28:17,610
pole, such as like South Park and Whitburn, which we would be starting in the Morgantown area,

907
01:28:17,610 --> 01:28:20,890
is that there's already a bunch of polls and you want to keep that history there.

908
01:28:21,670 --> 01:28:25,590
So putting everything on the ground is kind of, but in my opinion, a way to go.

909
01:28:26,550 --> 01:28:28,370
And the guy has a little picture there too.

910
01:28:28,590 --> 01:28:29,490
You can kind of see the crew working.

911
01:28:30,890 --> 01:28:32,230
And they've had that a sidewalk.

912
01:28:32,230 --> 01:28:34,470
When he broken up, there were several sidewalks.

913
01:28:34,910 --> 01:28:40,130
We would obviously our expense placed that sidewalk and decode to city code.

914
01:28:42,010 --> 01:28:45,910
We don't tend to have to do that a lot, but there are times we have to locate services.

915
01:28:48,730 --> 01:28:52,390
You'll see handholds of pedestals, we've got a scene around town, we'll have one in

916
01:28:52,390 --> 01:28:57,530
your yard, the basic premise is that when we run the lines on the ground, we have to bring

917
01:28:57,530 --> 01:29:01,610
them up to a pedestal as you see our handhold, and then from there, that's how we service

918
01:29:01,610 --> 01:29:02,190
the customers.

919
01:29:03,010 --> 01:29:08,690
So we'll bear in line, similar to Out Dominion with a gas company or our company with our underground

920
01:29:09,110 --> 01:29:13,530
to their house, and that's how we service the internet to them.

921
01:29:14,150 --> 01:29:20,010
you'll see kind of a map here of the South Park and First Ward areas. It's

922
01:29:20,010 --> 01:29:23,790
kind of hard to see on here and we can get bigger pictures of images of leaf

923
01:29:23,790 --> 01:29:29,930
name because as well. Because the orange line proposing where we want to go. Same

924
01:29:29,930 --> 01:29:35,530
thing with the next one where it's proposed five routes for Woodburn and then

925
01:29:35,530 --> 01:29:41,470
Suncrest as well. Like I mentioned we're done by demand so the South Park

926
01:29:41,470 --> 01:29:46,250
Woodburn and the two main areas first that we could fill the two and that'll take us several weeks about if

927
01:29:46,250 --> 01:29:53,270
he wants to deliver that and then we'd be working at places like Sun Press to you know we're still trying to qualify for that

928
01:29:54,190 --> 01:29:56,230
And then it's moving out from there

929
01:29:58,270 --> 01:29:59,510
The last thing I touched on

930
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:05,660
But a little bit was firemen to the home itself. So, from those pedestals that you saw, we would

931
01:30:05,660 --> 01:30:11,600
pour, or, this is a vibrating plow, so it doesn't disrupt the yard, but we would go this

932
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:16,460
from, for some of your signs up for our service, we would then use one of these methods to

933
01:30:16,460 --> 01:30:22,780
get to their house. In that way, it's truly 100% underground for them as well. And there's

934
01:30:22,780 --> 01:30:27,320
a lot of benefits to that from weather and other things, but most of the people just want

935
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:30,540
the internet would rely on the connection to release another option.

936
01:30:33,210 --> 01:30:39,410
You know what kind of what that pretty quickly, but I've never did any questions with some

937
01:30:39,410 --> 01:30:39,950
of my hands.

938
01:30:42,870 --> 01:30:45,890
Thank you so much.

939
01:30:46,030 --> 01:30:50,070
I was watching your projects actually take place and start city the other day.

940
01:30:50,870 --> 01:30:53,970
And so that made me think of all these questions.

941
01:30:54,590 --> 01:31:04,770
So, if I live in the Suncrest, they would, if one person on my road wanted it, they'd

942
01:31:04,770 --> 01:31:10,990
really kind of have to put the cable all along the road for people to access it.

943
01:31:11,330 --> 01:31:11,510
Right.

944
01:31:11,830 --> 01:31:16,930
So, what we would do is similar to other utility companies where they have theirs already

945
01:31:16,930 --> 01:31:17,350
in the ground.

946
01:31:17,650 --> 01:31:20,630
We would just do it on the city right away.

947
01:31:20,630 --> 01:31:26,650
So usually it's like if we like it serves a 20-foot from center, so we would stay within 20

948
01:31:26,650 --> 01:31:29,790
foot from the center of the road and we bury our underground.

949
01:31:30,370 --> 01:31:35,170
Usually we try to put our pedestals or hand holes which fit flush with the ground by

950
01:31:35,170 --> 01:31:39,730
a tough existing telephone pole, because that way is not like a sore thumb type of

951
01:31:39,730 --> 01:31:40,570
mythology.

952
01:31:41,590 --> 01:31:48,570
You hit my next question, yeah, and with that question, let's suppose the telephone pole

953
01:31:48,570 --> 01:31:55,050
is between two properties which they frequently are here in the person who gets

954
01:31:55,050 --> 01:32:02,650
the pedestal is the one with the service. I assume in terms of aesthetics. So

955
01:32:02,650 --> 01:32:09,530
in other words there could be the person who has the pedestal. I don't know if

956
01:32:09,530 --> 01:32:14,330
I'm explaining this right. What I saw in Star City is they're you're digging all

957
01:32:14,330 --> 01:32:19,930
along. And then I did not see the pedestal put in. But I could say if I had the telephone

958
01:32:19,930 --> 01:32:27,470
pole, let's say, and I didn't want the service, I assume that the person next to me, they

959
01:32:27,930 --> 01:32:32,030
would get the pedestal. Yeah, I mean, we're going to, I mean, our

960
01:32:32,030 --> 01:32:36,530
goiers are not to make anyone angry or do anything or go as seriously as to get it to people

961
01:32:36,530 --> 01:32:40,610
that want it. Just like anything, I guess it's sitting right

962
01:32:40,610 --> 01:32:44,330
by the way, is there are times where there's pedestals or even telephone poles right now?

963
01:32:44,770 --> 01:32:45,250
Yeah, they're massive.

964
01:32:45,690 --> 01:32:46,150
Yeah, yeah.

965
01:32:46,410 --> 01:32:48,310
But we're going to do, we would do everything in our power.

966
01:32:49,070 --> 01:32:50,810
And it's not, you know, it's not an overnight process.

967
01:32:51,410 --> 01:32:52,350
It's not an overnight process.

968
01:32:53,170 --> 01:32:55,050
We only do roughly 500 feet a day.

969
01:32:55,530 --> 01:32:59,950
So, I mean, Woodburn and South Park alone is like 80,000 feet of fire.

970
01:33:00,090 --> 01:33:01,070
If you do all the side streets.

971
01:33:01,810 --> 01:33:04,250
So, you know, you're talking several months of doing this.

972
01:33:04,330 --> 01:33:06,550
But we're going to go to the areas where they want it first.

973
01:33:08,450 --> 01:33:12,830
And the nice thing about the, if there is sidewalks is that our handles are flush,

974
01:33:13,090 --> 01:33:14,370
as you probably see all the time.

975
01:33:14,630 --> 01:33:19,110
So that's kind of an easy way to get around that, but the bit that we do have to do that,

976
01:33:19,230 --> 01:33:25,490
we're going to, I mean, we'll ask to see, like we're going to put a closer to the person

977
01:33:25,490 --> 01:33:28,870
who wants a service, if that helps answer your question.

978
01:33:29,130 --> 01:33:34,730
Yes. And then, so what would happen is, if we voted on this, you could see us,

979
01:33:34,730 --> 01:33:37,530
then the residents would have three choices.

980
01:33:38,530 --> 01:33:43,050
Oh, does the PSC allow for three choices on the data system?

981
01:33:43,250 --> 01:33:46,190
So the attorney, I know that in the case of taxi services

982
01:33:46,190 --> 01:33:49,250
and so forth, we had to go through the state PSC.

983
01:33:50,290 --> 01:33:52,490
These types of services won't require the same

984
01:33:52,490 --> 01:33:54,630
certificate of convenience and necessity.

985
01:33:55,270 --> 01:33:58,730
We have a few different, non-exclusive,

986
01:33:58,950 --> 01:34:01,590
excuse me, franchise agreements with telecom providers.

987
01:34:02,430 --> 01:34:03,070
Thank you.

988
01:34:05,890 --> 01:34:08,750
I just have two questions. I missed your name.

989
01:34:09,070 --> 01:34:10,150
Oh, my name is Chad. I'm sorry.

990
01:34:10,330 --> 01:34:10,590
Chad.

991
01:34:10,710 --> 01:34:11,250
And this is Jesse.

992
01:34:12,070 --> 01:34:13,150
Chad, it's your last name.

993
01:34:13,150 --> 01:34:14,030
Oh, it's a huge announcement.

994
01:34:14,610 --> 01:34:14,990
Okay.

995
01:34:15,390 --> 01:34:15,610
Okay.

996
01:34:16,610 --> 01:34:17,270
Thank you.

997
01:34:17,550 --> 01:34:20,030
Well, I think this is an exciting endeavor.

998
01:34:22,110 --> 01:34:26,050
Is this something that you would do in our downtown also?

999
01:34:26,610 --> 01:34:29,810
Yes, we would pull the connection.

1000
01:34:30,050 --> 01:34:31,570
So we would start over on Wagner Street

1001
01:34:33,230 --> 01:34:39,790
and for South Park and Woodburn and we do have plans as long as it qualifies

1002
01:34:39,790 --> 01:34:43,630
to like I said the as long as enough people sign up in the downtown zone

1003
01:34:43,630 --> 01:34:48,410
what we call it that we would come down down the challenge of the downtown is

1004
01:34:48,410 --> 01:34:54,530
the obviously a lot more and more but it's something we can navigate for

1005
01:34:55,450 --> 01:35:00,050
sure the qualifies will definitely do it we follow the material everything's

1006
01:35:00,050 --> 01:35:06,470
ready. It's kind of just this next step. And I had there is agreement. I don't know.

1007
01:35:08,670 --> 01:35:14,310
I think we have. You got it. Okay. So it's and that proposal. I mean, it's like any franchise agreement,

1008
01:35:14,310 --> 01:35:20,530
there's usually two normal ways of doing it. One is doing it by a percentage of revenue or sales,

1009
01:35:20,530 --> 01:35:28,570
a profit. And then the other one being this proposal one is her foot. So we on every quarter,

1010
01:35:28,570 --> 01:35:33,710
every month, every year, you know, they would beam, we would pay a per foot. And there it says

1011
01:35:33,710 --> 01:35:39,970
five cents per foot. Where do you guys obviously beam is acceptable? And so it's kind of a way

1012
01:35:39,970 --> 01:35:46,650
to give back to City of Morgan Town and to you for us having these lines of our ground. We also

1013
01:35:46,650 --> 01:35:51,950
have in there a small retainer for any attorney fees or anything that you might have to draft or

1014
01:35:54,130 --> 01:35:55,670
We're going to, you know, the people

1015
01:35:55,670 --> 01:35:59,510
working on what this is and we're willing to pay for it.

1016
01:36:03,480 --> 01:36:07,700
I know just one of the connections looks like goes across the

1017
01:36:07,700 --> 01:36:11,720
South High Street Bridge. Yeah, there's,

1018
01:36:11,820 --> 01:36:15,240
um, yeah, so that would be the,

1019
01:36:15,460 --> 01:36:17,540
that's what I was talking about. We need to go to downtown.

1020
01:36:18,220 --> 01:36:19,620
That would be the last.

1021
01:36:20,100 --> 01:36:21,200
Okay, that would be the last.

1022
01:36:21,340 --> 01:36:21,940
That would be the last.

1023
01:36:21,940 --> 01:36:27,080
And I guess my question I guess condo would be run on the side or underneath the bridge,

1024
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:29,940
but however I'm not saying it's the bridge is not ours, right?

1025
01:36:32,300 --> 01:36:36,880
I don't know. I mean, in general, the State Route City still has a right-of-way.

1026
01:36:37,020 --> 01:36:39,680
That may not be the same case with some extreme British.

1027
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:45,040
Okay. I don't know that. Yeah. Just that was the one connection that I looked and I said,

1028
01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:46,800
are we going to need to include other people?

1029
01:36:47,500 --> 01:36:50,420
Yeah, so all these. And I've checked with the right-of-the-state right-of-the-party

1030
01:36:50,420 --> 01:36:55,140
It's obviously like the, you'll know you probably can't tell in here, but your South

1031
01:36:55,140 --> 01:36:58,720
High Street, it doesn't come down South High Street, so for that part, we're going to do that

1032
01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:04,420
probably much later on, that'd be the Department of Highways route, and so they're required

1033
01:37:04,420 --> 01:37:04,980
to permit.

1034
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:11,000
So all the routes that are listed here are within your guys' city of Morgan Towns, jurisdiction.

1035
01:37:11,480 --> 01:37:11,980
Thank you very much.

1036
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:12,500
Clarification.

1037
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:14,340
Constellin.

1038
01:37:17,940 --> 01:37:20,280
So, how does this, what does this connect?

1039
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:24,120
Act 2, what's the provider that brings fiber here?

1040
01:37:24,620 --> 01:37:26,180
So we, great question.

1041
01:37:26,480 --> 01:37:31,380
So we buy a wholesale from some work providers, I'm not sure

1042
01:37:31,380 --> 01:37:33,800
by any of the a's of them I'll have to say, but one of them is local.

1043
01:37:35,020 --> 01:37:37,560
So there are brokers that are.

1044
01:37:37,780 --> 01:37:39,420
Yeah, there's like, and then you buy that bandwidth.

1045
01:37:40,280 --> 01:37:43,460
And you can resize, I don't know if resize is a correct word,

1046
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:47,060
but you wholesale it from the, and then.

1047
01:37:47,580 --> 01:37:52,340
But you would clarify what would bill the customer install the customer service

1048
01:37:53,140 --> 01:37:56,600
So but this will all be this will be a network. This will be a network. Yeah

1049
01:37:56,600 --> 01:38:02,560
And so instead of those cables on telephone poles are going to be five-room. I think I

1050
01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:05,360
Think that's great under the ground

1051
01:38:07,100 --> 01:38:08,320
One of the dimensions

1052
01:38:09,420 --> 01:38:13,360
the hand holes hand holes and pedestals

1053
01:38:14,040 --> 01:38:19,320
about how large are those? So there are rains, the pedestals, about two and a half feet tall.

1054
01:38:20,100 --> 01:38:21,300
Yeah, they just got this high.

1055
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:26,100
That's the green pedestals.

1056
01:38:26,340 --> 01:38:28,580
And they had those rains from...

1057
01:38:29,580 --> 01:38:33,260
Two and a half, one and a half, two and a half, two and a half, two and a half, two and a half.

1058
01:38:33,380 --> 01:38:35,160
But they're set in the ground?

1059
01:38:35,540 --> 01:38:37,520
Yes, they're completely set flush with the ground.

1060
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:44,500
So blend this on, treat upwards, and it's a nice, and even if it was said, the path is not

1061
01:38:44,500 --> 01:38:44,780
wrong.

1062
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:48,320
You know, I don't have a trip in the answer or a follow-up answer.

1063
01:38:49,060 --> 01:38:51,720
Those sound more desirable than the pedestals.

1064
01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:53,660
Do you have to do pedestals?

1065
01:38:53,780 --> 01:38:54,200
We do not.

1066
01:38:54,500 --> 01:38:54,620
No.

1067
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:56,100
We can do all.

1068
01:38:56,740 --> 01:38:58,780
Actually, we have a surplus of these other handholds.

1069
01:38:59,340 --> 01:38:59,440
Oh.

1070
01:38:59,900 --> 01:39:00,820
Thank you so much.

1071
01:39:00,820 --> 01:39:01,040
Wow.

1072
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:02,880
Maybe we could take advantage of that.

1073
01:39:03,020 --> 01:39:07,680
The pedestals are sort of a white beigey color.

1074
01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:08,460
Other green.

1075
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:09,640
Well they're green.

1076
01:39:10,680 --> 01:39:12,900
This one might be faded a little bit, but the other actually green.

1077
01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:15,080
Okay, I was wondering if they could be green.

1078
01:39:15,460 --> 01:39:15,540
Yeah.

1079
01:39:15,620 --> 01:39:19,480
Because then they might, or even like a green brown or something.

1080
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:22,440
But yeah, so that would be better than a whiteish color.

1081
01:39:23,140 --> 01:39:23,420
Yeah.

1082
01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:25,820
Just for the landscape a little.

1083
01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:27,340
Not until they get.

1084
01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:28,740
Yeah, they're the other green they get.

1085
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:29,360
Good.

1086
01:39:33,900 --> 01:39:42,800
We have a lot of church apartments that are needed in ladies who are living here.

1087
01:39:43,540 --> 01:39:49,920
There are some inconsistencies, some typos minor, but some inconsistencies where you

1088
01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:55,960
were asking either for 15 or 10 years, bracketed 10 years, but the word 15 in front of it.

1089
01:39:55,960 --> 01:40:01,480
I was definitely a draft of what are you requesting ten years ten years of

1090
01:40:01,480 --> 01:40:05,920
being preferable ten years all right and then I have a rather

1091
01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:15,760
ninety question having put this into the ground and saying bypassing five

1092
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:21,820
homes that didn't want it to the one home that did and then sometime in the

1093
01:40:21,820 --> 01:40:29,160
future, someone buys a house under those five. How do you grow about getting that to them?

1094
01:40:29,620 --> 01:40:32,180
Do you have to re-bore? Do you have to go out?

1095
01:40:32,820 --> 01:40:36,420
Yeah, it's a great question. So every time we set up what we call a splice point or a

1096
01:40:36,420 --> 01:40:41,700
handhold or a pedestal, they're all home runs to the home. And what that means is we run a

1097
01:40:41,700 --> 01:40:47,560
small little cable to flat from that box or from that handhold to the home in your situation.

1098
01:40:47,560 --> 01:40:50,760
Like you said, if someone buys a home or went on, what's the sign of six months or

1099
01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:50,920
half?

1100
01:40:51,540 --> 01:40:56,400
We would just have to run a line from our box to them.

1101
01:40:56,800 --> 01:41:01,620
Now, a lot of times what that can, what that consists of is running it through our conduit

1102
01:41:01,620 --> 01:41:02,220
that we put in.

1103
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:05,540
It's that orange conduit that you might have seen inside the rows and whatnot.

1104
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:10,920
And so, let's say it's a four-hundred-foot block, and they're smack dab and middle, we have

1105
01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:12,540
two pedestals on each side or handles.

1106
01:41:13,340 --> 01:41:17,780
We would just pick one of those pedestals, run it down our farm to their house,

1107
01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:21,360
you know, dead center, their house, or to the right or left of their house and then run it to their house

1108
01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:25,960
that way. So we would come out of our farm to it. But you have to tie in the original,

1109
01:41:26,180 --> 01:41:30,420
you have to tie in the original farm, so we don't have to disrupt, disrupt it again.

1110
01:41:30,820 --> 01:41:37,240
Okay. And I saw from your sign sometime back that you are recruiting, you don't have it currently

1111
01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:41,360
installed, but you are advertising in, for example, the South Park area.

1112
01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:48,200
Yeah, so a little bit about how we did the on the by-demand is that we use a

1113
01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:53,640
software that we have and we call it surveys. Basically we said we did a bunch

1114
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:57,820
of marketing to say okay hey people at Moria Town who wants this internet? Do you

1115
01:41:57,820 --> 01:42:01,540
want it at all? And we got an unbelievable amount of people that came in and they

1116
01:42:01,540 --> 01:42:05,920
took the surveys and that allows us to gauge like for example woodburn being

1117
01:42:05,920 --> 01:42:10,400
a really strong area, a South Park being a really strong area. And so they

1118
01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:17,440
actually still out the surveys and it now allows us to take it to like the area of government.

1119
01:42:18,180 --> 01:42:21,380
Star City, you know, be in the first one. So we went there first and we got the permits

1120
01:42:21,380 --> 01:42:28,120
for them and that's why they got it first. But there's been a lot more people after

1121
01:42:28,120 --> 01:42:29,820
that that sign up in more detail.

1122
01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:38,160
And to continue on in case your physical location, you are right. So we're right now we have

1123
01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:42,120
We have an office there in the right on the high street in the system bank building.

1124
01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:47,140
And with all of our stuff, we have multiple trucks and crew.

1125
01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:51,980
And really right now, everyone's hands on deck, building the Fiber and Star City.

1126
01:42:53,600 --> 01:43:00,120
We will be contracting out a lot of this in the Morning Town area, with a very reputable company.

1127
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:06,060
A few repal corporation, and we'll be doing a lot of work ourselves.

1128
01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:14,680
that we'll be getting a big, we're looking for office space once we get the agreement in place.

1129
01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:17,780
This is really where we're wanting to be here, more attempt.

1130
01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:22,740
So once we actually get established agreement, once you get a physical retail location

1131
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:27,520
and people could come in and test the internet, you know, things like that, pay their bill.

1132
01:43:29,930 --> 01:43:33,390
And all of us that didn't mention here, all of our stuff is free installation in their contract.

1133
01:43:34,010 --> 01:43:39,170
So we don't, you know, lock in the contract, you know, charge the installation and we don't

1134
01:43:39,170 --> 01:43:41,130
like the service and the storage of the cancel.

1135
01:43:43,210 --> 01:43:48,030
But being at a gig of its speed, it's like 20 times faster than what is currently in

1136
01:43:48,030 --> 01:43:48,310
the area.

1137
01:43:52,680 --> 01:43:53,600
So that's the red.

1138
01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:58,900
You just hit on something I wanted to ask you about being, I'm just trying to look at

1139
01:43:58,900 --> 01:44:03,180
this from a business standpoint and I know from a technological standpoint, I'm limited

1140
01:44:03,180 --> 01:44:10,620
it in my knowledge. Yes, I see free installation where your largest competitors charging a hundred

1141
01:44:10,620 --> 01:44:19,820
dollars. I see ten times the speed of basically half the price and no contract. I don't understand

1142
01:44:19,820 --> 01:44:23,900
how are you able to, and this is again, I'm not questioning you. I'm just like how are

1143
01:44:23,900 --> 01:44:29,980
you able to deliver? How are you able to do this and why is Comcast not running down this?

1144
01:44:29,980 --> 01:44:31,460
That's a great question.

1145
01:44:31,540 --> 01:44:32,440
I actually get asked this a bit.

1146
01:44:34,160 --> 01:44:37,600
So, the first thing is that just from a business standpoint,

1147
01:44:38,300 --> 01:44:40,260
you know, I can't obviously don't know for sure,

1148
01:44:40,660 --> 01:44:42,600
because I'm, you know, don't operate Comcast or just gonna,

1149
01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:44,780
but they already got the original infrastructure

1150
01:44:44,780 --> 01:44:46,760
in place with no competition.

1151
01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:48,900
There's no real reason for them to upgrade.

1152
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:51,020
That would be one initial thought.

1153
01:44:52,440 --> 01:44:56,900
The second thought would be that, you know,

1154
01:44:56,980 --> 01:44:58,100
it takes a lot, it does take a lot.

1155
01:44:58,240 --> 01:44:59,460
I mean, they obviously have a lot of money.

1156
01:44:59,460 --> 01:44:59,960
Thank you.

1157
01:45:00,270 --> 01:45:06,590
Just be looking at the public stocks, but I've always sensed that they're not really, they're

1158
01:45:06,590 --> 01:45:10,990
made home bases really in Pittsburgh and more in town done seem to be a real big thing for

1159
01:45:10,990 --> 01:45:16,730
them. Once again, I'm not trying to step on this, but just what it seems like. And, you

1160
01:45:16,730 --> 01:45:19,650
know, here's the thing, we're not going to take, we're not going to get every single customer

1161
01:45:19,650 --> 01:45:24,210
in order. I want to, I just want the customers to go in our service. We want a different, something

1162
01:45:24,210 --> 01:45:30,910
different something faster. They've been needed at cost savings at their home, so they probably

1163
01:45:30,910 --> 01:45:37,270
could do it if they really wanted to. I don't know if they would ever do that in the future.

1164
01:45:37,610 --> 01:45:45,210
And how we're able to do it so competitively is just the nature of fiber optics is that you can

1165
01:45:46,730 --> 01:45:50,930
a lot of times in a cable network or other networks is that you have your different nodes and

1166
01:45:50,930 --> 01:45:53,130
when you split off, you know, at times it bogs down.

1167
01:45:54,150 --> 01:45:56,250
I know there's times when all the students are on it,

1168
01:45:56,330 --> 01:45:57,490
you kind of bogs down with ours.

1169
01:45:57,990 --> 01:45:59,950
We can use the same lines, it doesn't do that.

1170
01:46:00,250 --> 01:46:02,710
Because it's fiber optic, so that allows us to buy

1171
01:46:03,210 --> 01:46:06,110
at our head end, which you run up to.

1172
01:46:06,290 --> 01:46:08,570
You know, you buy from multiple providers and resell that.

1173
01:46:09,450 --> 01:46:10,550
You know, I'm on a whole cell level,

1174
01:46:11,050 --> 01:46:13,170
is that we buy it, you know, a very, very cheap,

1175
01:46:13,710 --> 01:46:15,750
and then we can distribute that out to all these people

1176
01:46:16,290 --> 01:46:18,750
without it, it'll be integrated along the way.

1177
01:46:18,750 --> 01:46:27,270
So it's just a, I guess it's the business, it just makes sense, which is all paper, I guess

1178
01:46:27,270 --> 01:46:28,250
it comes out too.

1179
01:46:29,870 --> 01:46:31,110
I don't know if I helped answer your question.

1180
01:46:31,250 --> 01:46:34,330
Well, I did, it just, it looks too good to be true.

1181
01:46:34,530 --> 01:46:36,850
Right, yeah, it's not the case, but yeah.

1182
01:46:36,850 --> 01:46:41,190
From a customer, I mean, when I just look at this and I know what I'm writing my checks

1183
01:46:41,190 --> 01:46:48,410
to Comcast for now, I just, I don't know, I'm, well, you certainly

1184
01:46:48,410 --> 01:46:50,770
and trade, I can tell you that.

1185
01:46:51,310 --> 01:46:53,050
Usually the second question that comes up is,

1186
01:46:53,110 --> 01:46:54,090
is there any price hikes?

1187
01:46:55,250 --> 01:46:56,490
Are you going to give me a promotional price?

1188
01:46:57,190 --> 01:46:58,570
So I mean, our theory now is we're

1189
01:46:58,570 --> 01:47:00,450
going to keep this unless inflation goes way high.

1190
01:47:00,630 --> 01:47:01,570
You know, we're going to go with inflation.

1191
01:47:01,770 --> 01:47:03,650
So two to three, four years down the road.

1192
01:47:04,490 --> 01:47:06,330
As long as, you know, I think it's the same.

1193
01:47:06,430 --> 01:47:08,230
We're still planning on doing 49.95.

1194
01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:15,420
Now, you're a, this is obviously internet service.

1195
01:47:15,420 --> 01:47:16,320
We're talking about that.

1196
01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:18,500
Now, we can also do phone as well, both services.

1197
01:47:18,500 --> 01:47:19,920
OK, that was my next question.

1198
01:47:21,380 --> 01:47:24,360
And then TV service, we were partnered with Direct TV.

1199
01:47:25,440 --> 01:47:30,320
It's not something that has been a real great demand is having put a TV down our service.

1200
01:47:31,200 --> 01:47:34,300
It also requires a lot of different regulations and a million different things.

1201
01:47:34,620 --> 01:47:40,080
But the answer to that is that if someone wants TV service,

1202
01:47:40,300 --> 01:47:44,720
then you obviously have the option to go directly with Comcast or Dish or Director,

1203
01:47:44,940 --> 01:47:46,620
or we can install Direct TV on their behalf.

1204
01:47:47,220 --> 01:47:50,140
or they can do 80% of our customers are doing

1205
01:47:50,820 --> 01:47:52,400
using a slaying place, they should view

1206
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:54,300
a group who would, you know,

1207
01:47:54,580 --> 01:47:55,340
the million different things.

1208
01:47:56,280 --> 01:47:57,520
Say, they want a bunch of money.

1209
01:47:57,640 --> 01:47:58,300
Say they want a bunch of money.

1210
01:47:58,780 --> 01:47:59,380
That's probably what,

1211
01:47:59,420 --> 01:48:01,300
89% of our customers do.

1212
01:48:03,620 --> 01:48:04,900
So, what's, I'm sorry.

1213
01:48:05,120 --> 01:48:06,820
I was gonna say we got one here.

1214
01:48:07,360 --> 01:48:07,600
We do.

1215
01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:10,140
So, is this the way to the future?

1216
01:48:11,120 --> 01:48:13,440
No, five optics, the way all this is gonna go and

1217
01:48:27,780 --> 01:48:37,680
Yeah, I was just wondering now you've started in the star city has there been like any kind of maintenance issues that you've encountered.

1218
01:48:38,200 --> 01:48:45,780
So that's the, originally I met with the city attorney and the city engineer and our

1219
01:48:45,780 --> 01:48:47,420
original proposal was to put telephone poles.

1220
01:48:48,220 --> 01:48:53,200
And so telephone poles is a lot easier because you can just put a man, you can hang it and

1221
01:48:53,840 --> 01:48:58,240
we try to go on the existing telephone poles that are there and we've not had any luck

1222
01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:03,340
doing that as well and so we thought well why not just let's do it right the first time

1223
01:49:03,920 --> 01:49:08,720
Unless a backhoe or something hits our line and they're digging, you know, whether it

1224
01:49:08,720 --> 01:49:13,360
doesn't really affect it, it's got to be some pretty catastrophic that.

1225
01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:18,360
And so when we decide that we're going underground, we'll take the extra time to do it, but also

1226
01:49:18,760 --> 01:49:21,520
it looks better and it's going to be more reliable.

1227
01:49:22,300 --> 01:49:26,080
The thing that's not on here is that we don't obviously, you know, the business wants it, we

1228
01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:26,880
also do it for businesses.

1229
01:49:28,200 --> 01:49:32,920
Our business can really use a thousand megs of internet, gigabitternet, more than anyone

1230
01:49:32,920 --> 01:49:37,780
resolution does, but our focus right now is residential. Of course, we would definitely

1231
01:49:37,780 --> 01:49:44,800
sign up for business. But his a little bit more money is not good. Thank you. Well,

1232
01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:48,460
I have learned a hot seat. The first one, I mean, extracts just a little bit of information

1233
01:49:48,460 --> 01:49:54,040
for my own purposes. Cost per foot, putting things underground. What's that? You've got to have

1234
01:49:54,040 --> 01:49:59,400
some sort of estimate as to what that costs. Our cost per foot. Construction costs per foot.

1235
01:50:01,120 --> 01:50:03,540
It costs us, and we're from $5 to $10 a month.

1236
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:05,760
Okay, that's good information.

1237
01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:06,340
Thank you.

1238
01:50:06,820 --> 01:50:08,520
I'll use that in some other circumstance.

1239
01:50:11,040 --> 01:50:13,740
Now, and I don't mean to make you uncomfortable,

1240
01:50:13,740 --> 01:50:15,420
but you've told us about your business,

1241
01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:17,000
and you've told us about your proposal.

1242
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:19,320
Now, tell me about, you were background,

1243
01:50:19,820 --> 01:50:21,760
why we should believe what you're telling you.

1244
01:50:22,940 --> 01:50:23,500
Are you telling us?

1245
01:50:23,680 --> 01:50:27,500
Yeah, so I've been doing this for 11 years.

1246
01:50:27,500 --> 01:50:33,700
years, I'll just even know the point, the point plus years, we have people on our team

1247
01:50:33,700 --> 01:50:38,040
that have been doing it even longer, so really surround myself with it.

1248
01:50:38,060 --> 01:50:42,120
Well, no, no, when you tell me you've been doing it, how have you been doing it?

1249
01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:43,320
This is the interview.

1250
01:50:49,260 --> 01:50:55,240
I started 11 years ago myself, actually 12 years ago this year, just a few months from

1251
01:50:55,240 --> 01:51:02,040
now. And I started just basically doing voice services. It's kind of where I started and

1252
01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:06,800
when I say voice, I mean, pho service. It sounds like my thing was pho service. And I

1253
01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:16,580
grew, I grew my, I helped grow a company. And they sold it. And we revenue about 3.2 million,

1254
01:51:17,180 --> 01:51:23,940
a bit about billion months a month in voice service. And what that all means is that I really

1255
01:51:23,940 --> 01:51:29,840
used that to jumpstart into the fiber world, into the internet world, and I really did a lot

1256
01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:34,860
of networking, meaning behind the same stuff, not so much like running the lines underground,

1257
01:51:35,340 --> 01:51:42,180
and physically doing the work. We always contracted that out a lot. And so, when I got to

1258
01:51:42,180 --> 01:51:51,860
Morgantown in January of last year, 2016, I really wanted to, I wasn't sure exactly how I wanted to,

1259
01:51:51,860 --> 01:51:56,300
I knew I really wanted to make a difference here at Morgan Town, but also create a lively

1260
01:51:56,300 --> 01:51:57,320
business for my own.

1261
01:51:58,960 --> 01:52:00,360
What needs you pick, Morgan Town?

1262
01:52:01,620 --> 01:52:09,080
Well, one being my wife lives here for several years, and so I chose Morgan Town, moved

1263
01:52:09,080 --> 01:52:09,580
here for that.

1264
01:52:10,580 --> 01:52:14,620
So we got married, and I really liked the area I saw that.

1265
01:52:15,260 --> 01:52:20,480
And as any entrepreneur probably would say, I saw the opportunity, and still see the opportunity.

1266
01:52:21,080 --> 01:52:31,360
And so with some lines of credit that I have and some assignment investor, it was obviously

1267
01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:36,040
a cost of good amount of money to do the math and I'm able to provide the service.

1268
01:52:36,860 --> 01:52:42,080
So everything has been bought, it's all in warehouse and right now, and so we're just now

1269
01:52:44,680 --> 01:52:47,780
really needing, I guess, this permit or anything to put together.

1270
01:52:48,620 --> 01:52:52,880
Maybe jump the gun on that a little bit, but there's definitely to the man who's there.

1271
01:52:53,840 --> 01:53:00,980
The people we have working for us will follow every step to the code, and if that helps,

1272
01:53:01,400 --> 01:53:02,880
answer some of your questions.

1273
01:53:03,740 --> 01:53:04,440
Some of them.

1274
01:53:06,180 --> 01:53:12,980
And I don't mean to make you feel uncomfortable, and certainly, I just want to make sure that

1275
01:53:12,980 --> 01:53:15,200
what we're dealing with is reputable and qualified.

1276
01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:15,880
I understand.

1277
01:53:18,800 --> 01:53:21,360
Any additional questions? Councilor Gas?

1278
01:53:21,740 --> 01:53:26,660
Well, that brings up a point I was reading over the contract. And one of the concerns

1279
01:53:26,660 --> 01:53:31,880
would be, by the way, thank you very much for choosing work in town. I think it'd be

1280
01:53:31,880 --> 01:53:38,680
nice to try an innovative thing. But of course, we always have that caution, parental caution

1281
01:53:38,680 --> 01:53:45,660
of our turf or something. But my concerns would be related to bonding and programming.

1282
01:53:46,280 --> 01:53:53,200
In other words, one of the things we found with construction concerns is that often I

1283
01:53:53,200 --> 01:53:58,700
create a little more damage than plan. And so one of the things we've been a little weak

1284
01:53:58,700 --> 01:54:06,660
on is bonding groups to make sure that they can fix whatever's hurt or broken. And so

1285
01:54:06,660 --> 01:54:09,260
So I couldn't quite follow that in the contract,

1286
01:54:09,300 --> 01:54:10,280
but I'm not the attorney.

1287
01:54:11,340 --> 01:54:12,920
And so can you address that a little bit?

1288
01:54:13,440 --> 01:54:14,480
Yeah, I'm personal foremost.

1289
01:54:14,820 --> 01:54:17,280
Our insurance policy with the city of Morgan Tanner,

1290
01:54:17,280 --> 01:54:18,860
however you want to put it with,

1291
01:54:19,080 --> 01:54:20,400
they would be an additional insurer of it,

1292
01:54:20,660 --> 01:54:22,820
in case something like catastrophic align with it,

1293
01:54:22,960 --> 01:54:23,600
something like that.

1294
01:54:24,180 --> 01:54:26,120
That also goes for the other utility companies

1295
01:54:26,120 --> 01:54:26,600
that are there.

1296
01:54:27,420 --> 01:54:31,940
So that's all of the insurance as far as the agreement goes,

1297
01:54:32,220 --> 01:54:35,460
you know, as you said, like there's some typos and things.

1298
01:54:35,460 --> 01:54:39,200
It is just a raw draft of just some language put together.

1299
01:54:40,300 --> 01:54:44,660
David just asked me to kind of drop it off, and you guys might have one already, that

1300
01:54:44,660 --> 01:54:44,920
matter.

1301
01:54:46,300 --> 01:54:52,380
But, you know, we can strictly stay in that contract to things like, you know, there's

1302
01:54:52,380 --> 01:54:56,460
a repair that needs done, you need to outline what that is, what the cure time period is for

1303
01:54:56,460 --> 01:54:56,640
that.

1304
01:54:57,780 --> 01:54:59,640
I'll be totally, we'll be totally for that.

1305
01:54:59,640 --> 01:55:04,400
that whatever it might be, broken concrete sidewalks

1306
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:07,540
lad, you know, yeah, X amount of money to secure it,

1307
01:55:07,540 --> 01:55:08,300
road repair.

1308
01:55:08,460 --> 01:55:09,220
Gaslight and break.

1309
01:55:09,760 --> 01:55:09,880
Yeah.

1310
01:55:11,180 --> 01:55:13,920
I'm not trying to be weird, but I feel like I'm the mother

1311
01:55:13,920 --> 01:55:14,760
of my lawn, you know.

1312
01:55:15,120 --> 01:55:15,940
No problem.

1313
01:55:16,920 --> 01:55:21,100
And side note, you know, Dominion and Star City, their policy

1314
01:55:21,100 --> 01:55:24,440
is they, you know, obviously we call and get the

1315
01:55:24,440 --> 01:55:27,020
locates from love and like that, they actually stay on

1316
01:55:27,020 --> 01:55:27,700
site while we dig.

1317
01:55:27,700 --> 01:55:34,540
So the whole time they're, they have a truck sit in there and so and that's what made me ask about like

1318
01:55:34,540 --> 01:55:38,740
Gas line breakers. Yeah, yeah, and then they obviously would be sure

1319
01:55:41,880 --> 01:55:44,560
You know, the instruments we use are very precise

1320
01:55:44,560 --> 01:55:48,940
That's the reason because it's you know, it can be dangerous being a gas line house

1321
01:55:49,960 --> 01:55:51,860
Good will that answers that question?

1322
01:55:52,140 --> 01:55:52,580
well

1323
01:55:52,580 --> 01:55:57,820
except for attorney review but then also one of the issues that's been with

1324
01:55:57,820 --> 01:56:04,000
concast lately and I'm not knowledgeable enough about this streaming and

1325
01:56:04,000 --> 01:56:09,380
computers and that is knowledgeable as the mayor's family is about Roku and all

1326
01:56:09,380 --> 01:56:15,020
that jazz but so I'm assuming there'll be some education that will come along

1327
01:56:15,020 --> 01:56:19,240
or possibility of education that will come along with the people who don't

1328
01:56:19,240 --> 01:56:22,180
and understand that stuff, or how would that all work?

1329
01:56:22,260 --> 01:56:22,560
Correct, yeah.

1330
01:56:22,660 --> 01:56:26,020
So we go a little bit beyond what everyone else does.

1331
01:56:27,080 --> 01:56:27,980
We install the service.

1332
01:56:28,760 --> 01:56:30,280
We get them hooked up, meeting them.

1333
01:56:30,400 --> 01:56:31,360
We install our motor router.

1334
01:56:32,260 --> 01:56:34,040
And then we get the next step we usually do

1335
01:56:34,040 --> 01:56:36,800
is we'll connect with their computer,

1336
01:56:36,940 --> 01:56:40,200
their tablet, their iPad, their TV.

1337
01:56:41,720 --> 01:56:43,860
We typically, you know, spend a little bit of an extra time

1338
01:56:43,860 --> 01:56:45,320
than when everyone else would connect with them

1339
01:56:45,320 --> 01:56:46,140
and kind of showing them.

1340
01:56:47,140 --> 01:56:55,900
So, it's not just like another customer number, it really does sign up especially at the beginning and going forward is really means a lot to us.

1341
01:56:56,760 --> 01:57:00,660
You don't have 60,000 customers and we'll have what we sign up in the area.

1342
01:57:00,960 --> 01:57:04,520
So you will be able to educate people and that's great.

1343
01:57:04,760 --> 01:57:13,640
And then along that line, one of the issues that we're having with Comcast, and this is very timely because of it, is there a drop there putting us in the Pittsburgh.

1344
01:57:19,400 --> 01:57:28,560
I'm just looking for that word and so how do we work streaming on the West Virginia

1345
01:57:28,560 --> 01:57:29,200
stations?

1346
01:57:29,200 --> 01:57:33,300
Is there an option to stream West Virginia news in West Virginia?

1347
01:57:33,820 --> 01:57:37,840
So ours, just thinking about us, it's just a pipe to the internet, so since we're not

1348
01:57:37,840 --> 01:57:43,420
doing TV directly, when we're using direct TV, it'll be kind of up to their programming,

1349
01:57:43,920 --> 01:57:44,740
but as far as-

1350
01:57:44,740 --> 01:57:45,640
I hope to direct TV.

1351
01:57:45,680 --> 01:57:46,440
I hope to direct TV.

1352
01:57:46,680 --> 01:57:50,840
It's a direct TV program and also puts us in the Pittsburgh viewing area, which is

1353
01:57:51,200 --> 01:57:52,360
a big issue.

1354
01:57:52,520 --> 01:57:55,220
I didn't know if there was a way to resolve this issue for us.

1355
01:57:55,440 --> 01:58:00,100
I mean, just off the top of my head, there is a way to, you know, stream it to a rope, your

1356
01:58:00,100 --> 01:58:04,280
device, and do locals, we'd have to get in touch with local stations, and do that.

1357
01:58:04,560 --> 01:58:05,680
It's something that could be done.

1358
01:58:07,020 --> 01:58:11,360
Because that's a solution that we're looking for right now, in fact, in fact, it's on the

1359
01:58:11,360 --> 01:58:11,660
agenda.

1360
01:58:11,980 --> 01:58:12,100
I believe.

1361
01:58:12,980 --> 01:58:13,340
Yes.

1362
01:58:13,340 --> 01:58:14,940
that's on the agenda today, you may see.

1363
01:58:16,640 --> 01:58:18,880
So that would be an enticement.

1364
01:58:19,600 --> 01:58:20,200
It would be great.

1365
01:58:21,720 --> 01:58:26,000
I know it could be done, because I've

1366
01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:27,980
worked with teams that have done it before,

1367
01:58:28,120 --> 01:58:30,660
and they've done TV over fiber.

1368
01:58:32,080 --> 01:58:33,520
It just wasn't original business plan,

1369
01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:35,180
but something like that wouldn't take much more

1370
01:58:35,180 --> 01:58:36,360
to do, like police service.

1371
01:58:36,580 --> 01:58:38,400
Because as you may see, I don't know.

1372
01:58:39,520 --> 01:58:41,500
I've read it somewhere in my packet,

1373
01:58:41,500 --> 01:58:48,380
But when there's an issue here with customers wanting to drop a Comcast now, so you're

1374
01:58:48,380 --> 01:58:52,680
kind of hitting the market if this was the right thing, which I'm not sure, at the

1375
01:58:52,680 --> 01:58:58,100
right time, if you could take care of that glitch that they can't seem to handle, just

1376
01:58:58,100 --> 01:58:58,380
a minute.

1377
01:58:59,440 --> 01:59:00,060
Thank you.

1378
01:59:03,440 --> 01:59:04,400
I'm sorry.

1379
01:59:06,260 --> 01:59:09,980
I noticed, I mean, you're seeking a franchise agreement with us essentially is what we're

1380
01:59:10,580 --> 01:59:11,200
talking about.

1381
01:59:11,680 --> 01:59:21,670
But I see that you already have what about 500 customers in Morgantown already or sign-ups, I guess, right?

1382
01:59:22,230 --> 01:59:25,350
Yeah, so this graph right here that shows the thousand nineteen customers.

1383
01:59:25,710 --> 01:59:25,830
Yeah.

1384
01:59:26,050 --> 01:59:27,030
These are all surveys.

1385
01:59:27,430 --> 01:59:32,970
These are all people that have signed up and said, I want the service once you come to my street.

1386
01:59:33,070 --> 01:59:33,390
I see.

1387
01:59:33,590 --> 01:59:33,770
Okay.

1388
01:59:34,110 --> 01:59:34,490
I understand.

1389
01:59:34,650 --> 01:59:35,650
Just making sure.

1390
01:59:35,810 --> 01:59:37,130
So you have not delivered any service?

1391
01:59:37,290 --> 01:59:37,410
No.

1392
01:59:37,410 --> 01:59:42,850
Yeah, because I basically going down the channels would be the franchise agreement from getting the permit for right away.

1393
01:59:46,130 --> 01:59:46,930
Thank you.

1394
01:59:48,090 --> 01:59:50,150
Just one last question, let you go.

1395
01:59:50,890 --> 01:59:56,970
Assuming you get to franchise, when do you anticipate construction, distribution?

1396
01:59:57,670 --> 01:59:59,670
Theoretically, you sign it tomorrow, we'd start the next day.

1397
02:00:00,180 --> 02:00:19,980
We're basically got everyone ready, queued up. We got all the signups ready too. So I mean that's that's the driving force is from a pure business standpoint. We got to make money. So we got that, but from an economic standpoint and everything else, you know, it makes sense as well. So we can start as soon as possible. Okay. Got insurance and everything ready.

1398
02:00:22,020 --> 02:00:31,160
Additional questions? No? Yes. Thank you very much. Enjoy your presentation. If I just may, what's the, is there like a timeline?

1399
02:00:32,340 --> 02:00:34,820
Let's begin it back because I get calls early every day.

1400
02:00:34,980 --> 02:00:36,480
I don't have to push it.

1401
02:00:38,120 --> 02:00:43,840
We'll have a discussion on this and it may be moved to the agenda for our next meeting.

1402
02:00:44,100 --> 02:00:46,320
I would be the first opportunity for consideration.

1403
02:00:47,320 --> 02:00:47,680
Appreciate it.

1404
02:00:47,880 --> 02:00:48,340
You're welcome.

1405
02:00:50,990 --> 02:00:52,730
Well, it's clear about presentations.

1406
02:00:55,710 --> 02:00:57,670
We're going to open the public portion.

1407
02:00:58,390 --> 02:01:02,850
If you wish to speak during the public question, please come to the microphone, state your name,

1408
02:01:03,090 --> 02:01:06,170
and address for the record and minute your comments to four minutes.

1409
02:01:07,210 --> 02:01:09,130
The declarative public question is open.

1410
02:01:09,910 --> 02:01:11,210
Is there anyone wishing to speak?

1411
02:01:11,590 --> 02:01:11,890
No

1412
02:01:14,360 --> 02:01:16,660
one wishing to speak during the public question.

1413
02:01:19,320 --> 02:01:21,780
Now, saying that, I declare the public question closed.

1414
02:01:24,640 --> 02:01:25,900
Item for discussion.

1415
02:01:27,340 --> 02:01:29,460
First on our list is the botanical garden.

1416
02:01:29,460 --> 02:01:32,140
I mean, is there anything that we need to discuss

1417
02:01:32,140 --> 02:01:36,140
and we feel there's no, you know, behind the presentation?

1418
02:01:38,640 --> 02:01:39,300
I'm sorry.

1419
02:01:39,340 --> 02:01:40,720
I have a minor matter.

1420
02:01:41,800 --> 02:01:45,880
We should be referring to it as a botanic garden, I believe.

1421
02:01:46,120 --> 02:01:47,380
You're right. Don't say.

1422
02:01:47,780 --> 02:01:52,300
No, it's written in here, and I made the mistake myself

1423
02:01:52,300 --> 02:01:54,660
because it just sort of flows off that way,

1424
02:01:54,700 --> 02:01:58,240
but just for accuracy, it should just be botanic garden.

1425
02:01:58,240 --> 02:02:10,940
All right next on the list for the discussion is the mine county health department presentation

1426
02:02:10,940 --> 02:02:20,440
cleaned into our air updates is that something that we want to move to the agenda for consideration

1427
02:02:20,440 --> 02:02:26,120
to update our current ordinance and move it to the end.

1428
02:02:28,120 --> 02:02:31,040
Do I have consensus on that?

1429
02:02:33,310 --> 02:02:35,830
So then we should move that to some future agenda.

1430
02:02:37,310 --> 02:02:39,330
As soon as it could be made ready.

1431
02:02:40,970 --> 02:02:41,970
Very good. Thank you.

1432
02:02:42,990 --> 02:02:49,390
The next is the clear fiber and the proposed fiber internet service.

1433
02:02:50,890 --> 02:02:52,490
Let's counsel's pleasure,

1434
02:02:55,000 --> 02:02:55,920
counsel Gents.

1435
02:02:56,660 --> 02:03:02,100
Prior to moving it to the agenda, I was hoping the City Manager would evaluate this

1436
02:03:02,100 --> 02:03:07,320
and the course of the conversation about the Comcast issue, he seemed to have some knowledge

1437
02:03:07,320 --> 02:03:14,020
about these kinds of franchise agreements and I would like for him and the City Attorney

1438
02:03:14,020 --> 02:03:22,680
just sort of for elimination and correct me if I'm wrong, but we're in the Pittsburgh market

1439
02:03:22,680 --> 02:03:28,900
because the federal government put us there. So we can't change that. But we can't change

1440
02:03:28,900 --> 02:03:35,680
us, and the only thing we can ask for is we can request a particular service we provided

1441
02:03:35,680 --> 02:03:45,560
to us and my understanding is that we can't demand that. So where I was around it he's

1442
02:03:45,560 --> 02:03:51,060
indicated that you can't stream this information. Yes, but I really don't think that's an

1443
02:03:51,060 --> 02:03:57,460
issue in terms of this particular franchise request.

1444
02:03:57,460 --> 02:04:05,200
Just lack knowledge here, isn't the city, can I ask the city manager to comment?

1445
02:04:07,020 --> 02:04:12,780
Certainly, so again, we're talking, providing a franchise for internet service net television.

1446
02:04:13,240 --> 02:04:15,340
So it's a different issue.

1447
02:04:16,510 --> 02:04:23,100
What's been indicated, at least for the local news portion, you can go to the particular television

1448
02:04:23,100 --> 02:04:26,180
station, you can see the local programming only.

1449
02:04:26,180 --> 02:04:30,040
So that is a means of obtaining that information.

1450
02:04:30,300 --> 02:04:35,100
But as far as leveraging a solution, it's an entirely different topic.

1451
02:04:35,900 --> 02:04:38,500
So since we are talking about internet and that television.

1452
02:04:39,280 --> 02:04:43,760
But nevertheless, it's work expeditiously with the city attorney and

1453
02:04:43,760 --> 02:04:49,560
bring up franchise agreement and a state of the time frame.

1454
02:04:49,860 --> 02:04:55,980
But depending on which your interests we will move it along as quickly as we can.

1455
02:04:55,980 --> 02:04:56,440
So,

1456
02:04:59,540 --> 02:05:04,480
and I don't mean to stop discussion, but that is an item that will come to you again.

1457
02:05:04,980 --> 02:05:08,160
A little further down. So, is there any additional discussion?

1458
02:05:08,480 --> 02:05:12,560
No, I wasn't meaning to compare it to the Comcast thing. I just thought he'd know something that I don't know.

1459
02:05:12,580 --> 02:05:12,660
Oh,

1460
02:05:15,290 --> 02:05:16,390
because of sling.

1461
02:05:16,530 --> 02:05:26,230
Do we have four franchise agreement? Do we have templates or protocol, for instance,

1462
02:05:26,230 --> 02:05:36,570
If there does need to be a repair, or that type of thing so that we're not just sort of leaving things open.

1463
02:05:37,370 --> 02:05:42,770
Because I know we have a lot of difficulty, for instance, with just changing light bulbs and

1464
02:05:42,770 --> 02:05:45,410
getting the power company to work with us on changing light bulbs.

1465
02:05:45,630 --> 02:05:51,770
So I think it would be smart to look at whatever the appropriate means are to make sure that

1466
02:05:51,770 --> 02:05:56,690
But if similar to what the discussion was, that if there are repairs to be made, that

1467
02:05:56,690 --> 02:06:02,930
they'd be made timely and that we make use of their insurance or whatever the appropriate

1468
02:06:02,930 --> 02:06:07,990
method is as a franchise agreement, which you all would probably know better than many

1469
02:06:07,990 --> 02:06:08,370
of us.

1470
02:06:08,750 --> 02:06:13,990
But if we could just be sure that we're covering ourselves that way, it sounds great.

1471
02:06:15,310 --> 02:06:20,690
We do, and we have some existing franchise agreements for this type of service.

1472
02:06:20,690 --> 02:06:25,970
there are also, in substance and good provisions in the proposed agreement, I wouldn't anticipate

1473
02:06:25,970 --> 02:06:30,850
any difficulties working through coordinating what needs to be done from that proposed

1474
02:06:30,850 --> 02:06:35,650
agreement to what we need to do together in place. There are some notification requirements

1475
02:06:35,650 --> 02:06:41,190
in state code before we grant a franchise, but as far as getting the agreement together,

1476
02:06:48,160 --> 02:06:53,640
I'm sorry. I was just I was just going to suggest that's moved it forward by

1477
02:06:55,750 --> 02:06:56,190
consensus.

1478
02:06:56,670 --> 02:06:57,070
Yes, please.

1479
02:06:57,670 --> 02:06:59,270
Very good. We'll move on.

1480
02:06:59,670 --> 02:07:05,270
Excuse me. We have a couple items that seem to be related and I see that we have a city

1481
02:07:05,270 --> 02:07:06,210
planet joining us.

1482
02:07:07,230 --> 02:07:09,150
Accessory structures and uses.

1483
02:07:10,630 --> 02:07:12,370
Are you going to give us some sort of background on this?

1484
02:07:12,470 --> 02:07:15,050
No. I'll defer to the director.

1485
02:07:15,050 --> 02:07:16,290
Thank you.

1486
02:07:17,290 --> 02:07:17,910
Good evening.

1487
02:07:18,310 --> 02:07:19,770
Thank you for the opportunity to be here this evening.

1488
02:07:20,090 --> 02:07:20,850
We have four.

1489
02:07:21,110 --> 02:07:21,750
Let me say this.

1490
02:07:21,890 --> 02:07:22,550
Introduce yourself.

1491
02:07:22,750 --> 02:07:23,110
I'm sorry.

1492
02:07:24,010 --> 02:07:24,790
Chris Fletcher.

1493
02:07:25,530 --> 02:07:27,430
Director of Development Services, City of Morgantown.

1494
02:07:27,850 --> 02:07:28,130
Thank you.

1495
02:07:28,310 --> 02:07:28,610
Yes sir.

1496
02:07:29,810 --> 02:07:31,250
We have four planes.

1497
02:07:31,390 --> 02:07:31,650
Any good.

1498
02:07:31,750 --> 02:07:32,230
Text amendments.

1499
02:07:32,810 --> 02:07:33,550
This evening.

1500
02:07:33,950 --> 02:07:39,350
Do you want me to go through all four of them or go through one and then at discussion of

1501
02:07:39,350 --> 02:07:40,970
questions and then move on to the next one?

1502
02:07:41,110 --> 02:07:41,890
What is your pleasure?

1503
02:07:41,890 --> 02:07:47,750
Why don't we do the incident and have their own particular requirement?

1504
02:07:48,010 --> 02:07:49,390
Why don't you just run down through them?

1505
02:07:49,650 --> 02:07:49,870
Okay.

1506
02:07:51,910 --> 02:07:57,910
We'll personally begin by saying that a multi-year effort to comprehensively redraft the

1507
02:07:57,910 --> 02:08:01,730
city's zoning regulations was completed in January 2006.

1508
02:08:02,850 --> 02:08:07,330
This project was followed by the first time codification of the city's subdivision

1509
02:08:07,330 --> 02:08:10,690
ordinance and zoning ordinance into the planning and zoning code.

1510
02:08:11,110 --> 02:08:17,930
After a decade of administration and monitoring floorlares, staff will be presenting several

1511
02:08:17,930 --> 02:08:24,450
zoning text amendments in 2017, intended to address frequently requested and approved

1512
02:08:24,450 --> 02:08:31,970
variances, clarify regulatory intentions, and remedy potentially confusing or inconsistent

1513
02:08:31,970 --> 02:08:33,810
provisions within the code itself.

1514
02:08:33,810 --> 02:08:38,510
many of these recommended revisions will continue to advance comprehensive plan

1515
02:08:38,510 --> 02:08:42,550
objective number seven which provides for monitoring and improving the

1516
02:08:42,550 --> 02:08:46,810
effectiveness of the development regulations and the development process. So

1517
02:08:46,810 --> 02:08:50,490
the first ordinance before you deals with accessory structures and accessory uses

1518
02:08:50,490 --> 02:08:54,310
and I'll just go through some of the the bulleted points that it's in the staff

1519
02:08:54,310 --> 02:09:01,270
report and I'm on page 45 of your packet. First the ordinance amendment will

1520
02:09:01,270 --> 02:09:06,430
We will clarify the intended parallel between the concepts of accessory structures and

1521
02:09:06,430 --> 02:09:07,250
accessory uses.

1522
02:09:08,110 --> 02:09:12,530
The ordinance will recognize and permit the likelihood of utility connections between

1523
02:09:12,530 --> 02:09:20,230
a detached accessory structure and its principal structure, connections including wires for electricity

1524
02:09:20,230 --> 02:09:21,750
service or pipes requirement.

1525
02:09:22,910 --> 02:09:27,570
This ordinance will remedy the fact that currently listed examples of accessory structures in

1526
02:09:27,570 --> 02:09:34,650
the code relate more to residential principal uses, particularly single family dwellings, and

1527
02:09:34,650 --> 02:09:42,050
do not include examples of or recognize accessory structures common to commercial office or industrial

1528
02:09:42,050 --> 02:09:48,010
principal uses. And lastly, this particular ordinance will establish separate supplemental

1529
02:09:48,010 --> 02:09:53,950
regulations for accessory structures and uses in non-residential districts to clarify

1530
02:09:53,950 --> 02:09:58,210
they are allowed were prevented. So that's the first one that's on your agenda.

1531
02:09:58,810 --> 02:10:01,890
Should I pause are there any questions on this particular?

1532
02:10:03,110 --> 02:10:03,970
And then, yeah,

1533
02:10:06,580 --> 02:10:07,640
Councillor Neugin.

1534
02:10:08,400 --> 02:10:15,980
I noticed that you said that these are frequently brought before planning commission

1535
02:10:15,980 --> 02:10:20,040
and these are requested and approved variances before the Board of Zone ideals.

1536
02:10:20,820 --> 02:10:24,500
Can you give me an idea for a point of reference how frequently I would like

1537
02:10:24,500 --> 02:10:31,160
the past ten years. Accessory uses in the manner that we're seeking to change it have been addressed.

1538
02:10:31,480 --> 02:10:37,140
I would say the one that's more frequent and I would probably say a couple times a year maybe on average.

1539
02:10:37,600 --> 02:10:53,800
I guess we'll take a guess at, but the one that's more frequent is the one that requires in non-residential districts all your accessory structures to be 50% or less than the area of the first floor

1540
02:10:53,800 --> 02:10:57,540
or ground floor of your house, okay, for instance.

1541
02:10:58,660 --> 02:11:01,340
We have a lot of small homes in Morty Town because they're older.

1542
02:11:02,640 --> 02:11:07,260
The standard size for a detached garage is 24 feet by 24 feet.

1543
02:11:08,160 --> 02:11:14,980
A lot of times that exceeds the 50% of the footprint or that first floor area of the house itself.

1544
02:11:16,000 --> 02:11:19,060
If it doesn't, if you can build the detached two-part garage,

1545
02:11:19,300 --> 02:11:21,700
then often you don't have the ability to put up a tool shed.

1546
02:11:21,700 --> 02:11:26,560
So, there have been several variances requested for that, and I think all of them have been

1547
02:11:26,560 --> 02:11:32,100
granted, and the merits on the request is, well, the house is what it is, and it doesn't

1548
02:11:32,100 --> 02:11:33,700
have a garage, and it's small.

1549
02:11:34,500 --> 02:11:37,640
And it's really in all neighborhoods, in your neighborhood, I mean, there's a lot of

1550
02:11:37,640 --> 02:11:44,540
gunnison homes in Suncrest, some of the homes in Foesward, or have a smaller footprint,

1551
02:11:45,140 --> 02:11:49,900
that really that 24 by 24 detached, two-car garage exceeds that standard.

1552
02:11:49,900 --> 02:11:55,460
So, if I were to identify one, that would be one that's probably more commonly requested

1553
02:11:55,460 --> 02:11:59,660
and I think all the time granted by the Board as any of those.

1554
02:12:01,040 --> 02:12:05,520
And I guess I asked that because I noticed that we're looking like we're going to add

1555
02:12:05,520 --> 02:12:11,680
in the lift stations, and I know that speaks to the more industrial commercial purposes.

1556
02:12:12,100 --> 02:12:14,160
We haven't had many of those, only what one.

1557
02:12:15,120 --> 02:12:19,260
One lift station, usually they're underground, we've had one that was partially out of

1558
02:12:19,260 --> 02:12:30,320
ground. Yes. And just the state allow us in our code to define those structures as items for the

1559
02:12:30,320 --> 02:12:37,240
code. I mean, or do they have to be defined for accessory or principle or usage. The state

1560
02:12:37,240 --> 02:12:40,940
code allows us to determine what we consider to be a principle use and what's an accessory use.

1561
02:12:41,440 --> 02:12:46,300
Okay. But if you want to look at the definition for accessory use, that's actually part of the ordinance

1562
02:12:46,300 --> 02:12:49,360
and there's just a couple of terms that are being proposed to be changed there.

1563
02:12:50,140 --> 02:12:57,560
It is common zoning terminology, common practice for an accessory used to contribute to

1564
02:12:57,560 --> 02:13:01,360
the comfort, convenience, or necessity of the principal use.

1565
02:13:03,640 --> 02:13:08,620
And right now, our accessory structures, the only examples that are included in the definition

1566
02:13:08,620 --> 02:13:12,520
are your detached barrage's car port sheds, greenhouses, playhouses, and the like.

1567
02:13:12,520 --> 02:13:16,460
So, if you were to have a commercial building or a manufacturing industrial building which

1568
02:13:16,460 --> 02:13:22,500
has lots of accessory structures, it's really not even contemplated that that in fact could be,

1569
02:13:22,660 --> 02:13:24,280
it should be an accessory structure.

1570
02:13:24,800 --> 02:13:30,360
I know it's broadening, if you will, it's broadening the use, the intended use of that for really

1571
02:13:30,360 --> 02:13:32,420
any principal use, where it's from it.

1572
02:13:33,420 --> 02:13:38,140
The only reason I asked that is because when I recall that conversation about the lift station,

1573
02:13:38,140 --> 02:13:47,840
And I have to agree that I think a list station there, that's going to be an integral component of the building and so me to me an accessory seems something that is secondary or optional.

1574
02:13:48,440 --> 02:14:00,080
And even if it is for the necessity of the principal use, so I just didn't know if that should perhaps be defined elsewhere or by doing this.

1575
02:14:00,080 --> 02:14:05,800
Yes, I know we were addressing that, but your recommendation for this is based off of

1576
02:14:05,800 --> 02:14:09,280
the garage situation that is more commonly requested.

1577
02:14:09,800 --> 02:14:12,500
Well, I was providing you the very examples of the variance.

1578
02:14:12,900 --> 02:14:16,280
I mean, we're doing lots of things with this particular ordinance, not just addressing one

1579
02:14:16,280 --> 02:14:16,520
thing.

1580
02:14:16,700 --> 02:14:16,820
Okay.

1581
02:14:18,120 --> 02:14:18,520
Okay.

1582
02:14:18,740 --> 02:14:20,960
I wanted to make sure we weren't changing it for that one instance.

1583
02:14:21,360 --> 02:14:21,640
Yes, sir.

1584
02:14:22,960 --> 02:14:23,880
Any additional comments?

1585
02:14:24,700 --> 02:14:25,100
Two things.

1586
02:14:25,300 --> 02:14:25,700
Continue on.

1587
02:14:27,100 --> 02:14:27,640
Thank you.

1588
02:14:27,640 --> 02:14:28,280
Okay.

1589
02:14:28,380 --> 02:14:31,140
The next staff report begins on page 53 of your packet.

1590
02:14:31,360 --> 02:14:33,440
This one deals with principal uses and premises.

1591
02:14:35,120 --> 02:14:39,480
This particular ordinance will provide a definition for the term mixed use building, which

1592
02:14:39,480 --> 02:14:44,920
is currently appears twice in the planning and zoning code, and is also used in the proposed

1593
02:14:44,920 --> 02:14:46,720
modified definition for principal use.

1594
02:14:47,460 --> 02:14:52,160
This ordinance also provides a definition for premises, which currently appears approximately

1595
02:14:52,160 --> 02:14:55,400
60 times in the planning and zoning code, but there is no definition for premises.

1596
02:14:55,400 --> 02:14:59,720
And lastly, this particular ordinance recognizes an industrial manufacturer's

1597
02:15:17,200 --> 02:15:29,980
And in the staff report, we will see an arrow photograph of the Petito mine equipment site on east for highway avenue, where clearly there are multiple, multiple, multiple principal buildings where they have different, different lines or different buildings.

1598
02:15:29,980 --> 02:15:32,440
different operations in the several different buildings.

1599
02:15:35,180 --> 02:15:38,720
Again, this ordinance is attempting to do multiple things.

1600
02:15:40,800 --> 02:15:43,860
Any questions for the one at this particular issue?

1601
02:15:46,070 --> 02:15:47,260
Thank you, continue on.

1602
02:15:47,920 --> 02:15:52,260
Okay, the next one, Stafford Fort begins on page 58 of your packet.

1603
02:15:52,440 --> 02:15:53,760
This address is maximum parking.

1604
02:15:54,780 --> 02:15:59,020
Maximum parking standards promote balanced land use management practices

1605
02:15:59,020 --> 02:16:05,660
processes and can promote desired transportation demand management strategies. However, how

1606
02:16:05,660 --> 02:16:10,220
much maximum parking standards often relate to the development of surface parking lots

1607
02:16:10,590 --> 02:16:16,200
to discourage the over development or over supply commonly associated with big box development

1608
02:16:16,200 --> 02:16:21,820
patterns and result in adverse impacts on both the built and natural environment. This particular

1609
02:16:21,820 --> 02:16:29,240
elements will exempt parking structures, parking garages, parking structures from the

1610
02:16:29,240 --> 02:16:34,000
maximum parking standards, which advances desired vertical development and integrated

1611
02:16:34,000 --> 02:16:39,480
land use patterns while inducing developers to better plan for costs associated with

1612
02:16:39,480 --> 02:16:46,760
parking construction operations and maintenance. In general terms, it's easier, if you will,

1613
02:16:46,760 --> 02:16:50,540
So it's cost-efficient, if you will, to pay more

1614
02:16:51,680 --> 02:16:53,160
service to provide parking.

1615
02:16:53,660 --> 02:16:55,920
Where, if you're going to propose a structured parking

1616
02:16:55,920 --> 02:16:57,820
garage, you're going to sharpen your pencil.

1617
02:16:58,120 --> 02:16:59,740
You're going to know what that's going to cost to construct

1618
02:16:59,740 --> 02:17:00,740
and operate and maintain.

1619
02:17:01,200 --> 02:17:03,560
So we don't want to discourage or we

1620
02:17:03,560 --> 02:17:05,700
don't want to penalize, if you will,

1621
02:17:05,820 --> 02:17:07,400
someone that wants to get vertical with their parking.

1622
02:17:08,320 --> 02:17:09,360
And that's what that ordinance does.

1623
02:17:11,040 --> 02:17:14,740
Do we have any questions for the planner on this one?

1624
02:17:14,740 --> 02:17:21,000
I think that could have a real impact in our downtown if it's great.

1625
02:17:23,300 --> 02:17:24,740
Potentially, or anywhere.

1626
02:17:25,220 --> 02:17:25,800
Well, anywhere.

1627
02:17:25,860 --> 02:17:26,900
Parking structures are permitted.

1628
02:17:27,040 --> 02:17:35,760
But many times we've gone back and forth on parking numbers and the numbers that someone

1629
02:17:35,760 --> 02:17:43,400
wanted to make and the numbers that just seems as though that makes a lot of sense because

1630
02:17:43,400 --> 02:17:46,360
the purpose for limiting parking is to limit the service lots.

1631
02:17:46,360 --> 02:17:51,040
So this just makes it just makes good it just makes good logical sense to not

1632
02:17:52,220 --> 02:17:56,460
To exempt the parking structures. Well over the last 10 years there have been several

1633
02:17:56,460 --> 02:18:01,340
I don't know I thought my head but there have been several variants requests to exceed the maximum parking requirement

1634
02:18:01,340 --> 02:18:05,940
And almost every time that conversation there's an error in the room of BZ at white

1635
02:18:05,940 --> 02:18:11,140
This is more in town parking is like one of the biggest problems that we have or proceed to real problems depending on where you're at

1636
02:18:11,740 --> 02:18:16,060
And there's a purpose for it, you know, but the applicant that stands here and I'm sitting

1637
02:18:16,060 --> 02:18:21,200
there, BZM, I was here, why do we have, what it's important, you know, but this is trying

1638
02:18:21,200 --> 02:18:26,280
to keep that on the surface lots, but not discourage, or not, again, not penalize someone

1639
02:18:26,280 --> 02:18:26,800
who's comparable.

1640
02:18:30,550 --> 02:18:31,450
Do you have a comment on this?

1641
02:18:31,630 --> 02:18:31,950
Questions?

1642
02:18:33,890 --> 02:18:34,310
Okay.

1643
02:18:34,330 --> 02:18:37,230
The last one is on page 63 of your packet.

1644
02:18:38,110 --> 02:18:40,430
This relates to gas station mini-marts.

1645
02:18:40,430 --> 02:18:44,770
The types and extent of product lines retailed at gas station

1646
02:18:44,770 --> 02:18:46,610
minimart uses continue to evolve.

1647
02:18:47,230 --> 02:18:51,670
Many locations now offer fast food, fair, and eating areas as

1648
02:18:51,670 --> 02:18:54,370
evidence locally by BFS and sheet establishments.

1649
02:18:54,510 --> 02:18:56,270
And you'll see this anywhere you travel.

1650
02:18:56,530 --> 02:18:58,910
And this has become the norm in the industry.

1651
02:18:59,510 --> 02:19:02,270
The current definition for gas station minimart does not appear

1652
02:19:02,270 --> 02:19:05,910
to fully recognize this evolving business model and should be

1653
02:19:05,910 --> 02:19:08,090
updated to reflect changes in the land use.

1654
02:19:08,830 --> 02:19:15,450
This ordinance will modify the definition for gas station minimart, also will address the

1655
02:19:15,450 --> 02:19:16,190
parking requirement.

1656
02:19:16,370 --> 02:19:20,570
The current minimal parking requirement for gas station minimart may not include sufficient

1657
02:19:20,570 --> 02:19:25,290
parking provisions for establishments, gas station minimart establishments, that are also

1658
02:19:25,290 --> 02:19:27,470
offering fast food, fare, and dining areas.

1659
02:19:28,030 --> 02:19:33,170
Although parking congestion has not been observed at recently developed gas station minimart locations,

1660
02:19:33,170 --> 02:19:40,230
some sites have sought and been granted variance relief to exceed the 115% maximum partner requirement.

1661
02:19:40,870 --> 02:19:44,970
As such, a slight increase in the minimum partner requirement for gas station many more uses,

1662
02:19:45,570 --> 02:19:47,730
offering dining areas appears proven.

1663
02:19:52,880 --> 02:19:54,620
Questions on this? No?

1664
02:19:56,750 --> 02:19:57,290
Very good.

1665
02:19:58,490 --> 02:20:04,010
Now, just for the record, this has gone through the planning commission

1666
02:20:04,010 --> 02:20:07,550
and it comes with the planning commission's recommendations for acceptance.

1667
02:20:07,550 --> 02:20:08,190
Yes sir.

1668
02:20:08,390 --> 02:20:08,770
Okay.

1669
02:20:08,850 --> 02:20:09,190
All four.

1670
02:20:10,270 --> 02:20:10,630
Very good.

1671
02:20:10,990 --> 02:20:15,430
And they were presented in four separate because they're almost in cylinders and, you know,

1672
02:20:15,450 --> 02:20:16,710
they don't necessarily relate.

1673
02:20:16,890 --> 02:20:19,330
And it's proper prior to call us to separate these ordinances.

1674
02:20:20,770 --> 02:20:21,430
Very good.

1675
02:20:21,970 --> 02:20:23,170
May the to the agenda?

1676
02:20:23,930 --> 02:20:24,410
Each item?

1677
02:20:25,990 --> 02:20:26,750
By acclamation.

1678
02:20:27,470 --> 02:20:28,090
By acclamation.

1679
02:20:29,290 --> 02:20:29,570
Very good.

1680
02:20:29,710 --> 02:20:30,890
Thank you very much for your presentation.

1681
02:20:34,140 --> 02:20:34,440
Okay.

1682
02:20:35,400 --> 02:20:35,960
Number eight.

1683
02:20:35,960 --> 02:20:43,160
I think here we come to the concast issue and it's a parenthesis here with the hand out of the meeting.

1684
02:20:44,260 --> 02:20:46,200
I'm not quite sure I understand what that means.

1685
02:20:51,800 --> 02:20:53,120
It's done, but it's not here.

1686
02:20:53,380 --> 02:20:55,920
So, if you compare with us.

1687
02:20:56,140 --> 02:20:57,500
Just send it to us.

1688
02:20:59,540 --> 02:20:59,700
Okay.

1689
02:21:00,000 --> 02:21:00,340
Discussion.

1690
02:21:01,360 --> 02:21:02,580
Tell us what's in it.

1691
02:21:02,860 --> 02:21:03,280
Yeah.

1692
02:21:03,460 --> 02:21:03,860
There you go.

1693
02:21:04,020 --> 02:21:04,560
Thank you.

1694
02:21:05,360 --> 02:21:05,860
It's all right.

1695
02:21:06,080 --> 02:21:06,880
Have a good one.

1696
02:21:07,460 --> 02:21:07,900
Yeah.

1697
02:21:09,720 --> 02:21:16,480
Well, we acknowledge the dispute that's going on and really encouraging the parties, because

1698
02:21:16,480 --> 02:21:23,580
this is three separate letters that's sent to Comcast and to Nexstar, which owns WBOY,

1699
02:21:24,460 --> 02:21:34,540
as well as the TV station, and that we acknowledge the receipt of the notice from Comcast and

1700
02:21:34,540 --> 02:21:36,240
and encouraging really the parties

1701
02:21:36,240 --> 02:21:38,700
to reach an amicable solution

1702
02:21:38,700 --> 02:21:41,840
that it's really the best interest in the citizenry.

1703
02:21:42,440 --> 02:21:45,020
So as the city attorney has pointed out,

1704
02:21:45,680 --> 02:21:48,080
of from an enforcement perspective,

1705
02:21:49,140 --> 02:21:50,480
we don't have that ability,

1706
02:21:50,660 --> 02:21:51,860
based on the FCC,

1707
02:21:52,300 --> 02:21:54,860
this is considered what they call an out-of-market.

1708
02:21:55,340 --> 02:21:58,440
So there's already one other MVC affiliate

1709
02:21:58,440 --> 02:22:03,840
that is in their eyes that of course we all disagree with.

1710
02:22:04,540 --> 02:22:07,120
comes from Pittsburgh, but since this comes from Clarksburg,

1711
02:22:07,120 --> 02:22:09,820
it's considered that additional station

1712
02:22:09,820 --> 02:22:12,620
and there's not an obligation to carry that.

1713
02:22:13,020 --> 02:22:16,600
So, in essence, that's what the letter is,

1714
02:22:18,060 --> 02:22:22,180
depending on who you speak to and the particular parties,

1715
02:22:22,520 --> 02:22:27,600
they have a, would prefer a different description

1716
02:22:27,600 --> 02:22:32,280
and with this, that's an essence of business dispute

1717
02:22:32,280 --> 02:22:33,180
between these parties.

1718
02:22:33,180 --> 02:22:40,020
And so they may describe it differently, the face that they present from a public relations

1719
02:22:40,020 --> 02:22:40,980
point of view.

1720
02:22:41,620 --> 02:22:46,680
But we do have a letter prepared and wanted to make sure that you were comfortable with

1721
02:22:46,680 --> 02:22:51,280
that before releasing that to the entities and have direct conversations, particularly,

1722
02:22:51,280 --> 02:22:59,600
with the person that handles the local government relations on behalf of the cable provider

1723
02:22:59,600 --> 02:23:03,580
and urge them to come up with a solution.

1724
02:23:04,040 --> 02:23:05,780
So there's not an interruption come,

1725
02:23:06,520 --> 02:23:10,080
I believe March 14th is the cutoff date.

1726
02:23:10,360 --> 02:23:14,220
So if I may defer to the city attorney,

1727
02:23:14,400 --> 02:23:16,440
if there's any other pertinent information

1728
02:23:16,440 --> 02:23:17,260
that I've overlooked.

1729
02:23:17,640 --> 02:23:21,560
So I think that's a good description.

1730
02:23:21,740 --> 02:23:24,900
I'm not sure I can add a whole lot specifically

1731
02:23:24,900 --> 02:23:28,140
we're restricted as the franchise and authority

1732
02:23:28,140 --> 02:23:55,440
from dictating the programming decisions for commercial stations, the designated market areas which mentioned are established based on the annual Nielsen report that's released and the same regulations that adopt that have some provisions for petition to the federal communications commission to alter those, but they appear directed only to cable operator or a station provider rather than a local franchising authority like the city.

1733
02:24:02,540 --> 02:24:14,500
So what you're saying is we don't have a, we don't have standing to petition to the federal government to change our market area.

1734
02:24:15,500 --> 02:24:23,580
Not that I've seen, it's something I could look into further if the city is interested, but really I think the city manager

1735
02:24:23,580 --> 02:24:26,780
you're accurately described this as a business

1736
02:24:26,780 --> 02:24:30,580
decision between the two parties in our real role

1737
02:24:30,580 --> 02:24:33,620
to play is to encourage them to work it out

1738
02:24:33,620 --> 02:24:35,660
in the expressed interest of the citizens.

1739
02:24:38,020 --> 02:24:40,300
I would send that letter as soon as we can

1740
02:24:40,300 --> 02:24:45,200
since the time is, we've often asked our manager

1741
02:24:46,320 --> 02:24:52,480
to send something of this nature just to send it.

1742
02:24:52,480 --> 02:24:53,240
Oh, sure.

1743
02:24:53,960 --> 02:24:58,880
What's different this time around, so our discussion last week was centered around responding

1744
02:24:58,880 --> 02:25:00,400
to the cable provider.

1745
02:25:01,200 --> 02:25:06,900
And so upon looking at this and realizing that there's other parties, we wanted to make

1746
02:25:06,900 --> 02:25:13,440
you aware that we're sending out this correspondence to two other entities that really weren't mentioned

1747
02:25:13,440 --> 02:25:14,560
in the meeting.

1748
02:25:14,860 --> 02:25:21,780
So it's just more of a freer information, but there's nothing that's substantive that would

1749
02:25:21,780 --> 02:25:26,760
to diminish our public policy perspective in this deliberation.

1750
02:25:27,140 --> 02:25:30,320
So this is clearly consistent of what your intent is.

1751
02:25:30,520 --> 02:25:34,320
And so we'll send it up to my own and we'll provide you an

1752
02:25:34,320 --> 02:25:35,480
electronic copy of this.

1753
02:25:36,200 --> 02:25:38,880
So if there's any questions that come up from the residents.

1754
02:25:39,200 --> 02:25:43,400
Is that, I mean, that would, I just want to say, I appreciate your due

1755
02:25:43,400 --> 02:25:46,380
diligence on that because you're absolutely right.

1756
02:25:46,540 --> 02:25:49,160
There is more than one party involved in this.

1757
02:25:49,160 --> 02:25:54,680
So I certainly support go going ahead and sending it out and sending us a copy.

1758
02:25:54,680 --> 02:25:56,780
Okay, all right, we will do that.

1759
02:25:58,120 --> 02:25:59,580
Is that the will of the council?

1760
02:26:02,940 --> 02:26:10,100
Just one thing to add, you know, a Morgan town has been part of the Pittsburgh DMA for decades.

1761
02:26:10,520 --> 02:26:14,220
That was something the FCC decided I'm not sure how long the City of Trent probably knows.

1762
02:26:14,220 --> 02:26:15,740
I mean, decades and decades ago.

1763
02:26:15,740 --> 02:26:20,500
I mean, trying to read between the lines on this, I think might lead to the answer.

1764
02:26:21,200 --> 02:26:28,000
And that is, over the course of time, B-O-Y has always had some sort of agreement with

1765
02:26:28,000 --> 02:26:33,160
the cable provider to offer their service into this market, and I don't know what that

1766
02:26:33,160 --> 02:26:39,680
agreement was, but I'm guessing when B-O-Y was sold or when next star bought that group

1767
02:26:39,680 --> 02:26:45,340
of stations that somehow next star decided they didn't want to, and it's probably their

1768
02:26:45,340 --> 02:26:48,820
paying the cable provider to the broadcaster station.

1769
02:26:51,080 --> 02:26:54,140
Next star probably made some corporate

1770
02:26:54,140 --> 02:27:00,300
decision they weren't going to pay to have that happen again. However, I can't see how

1771
02:27:00,300 --> 02:27:06,660
that will continue in that Morgan town is probably the primary market for WBOY and not

1772
02:27:06,660 --> 02:27:14,720
Clarksburg. So I'm pretty confident that the two parties will work it out in some way.

1773
02:27:14,720 --> 02:27:18,760
And now if we did want to pursue changing the DMA designation from working time, I mean

1774
02:27:18,760 --> 02:27:29,580
that would be something we could pursue through our federal level, through our congressman

1775
02:27:29,580 --> 02:27:30,560
or senators.

1776
02:27:30,800 --> 02:27:37,180
I mean that's where it would have to be pursued, so that would be an issue for congressman

1777
02:27:37,180 --> 02:27:44,080
McKinley or Senator Manchin or I don't know that there's you know any real

1778
02:27:44,080 --> 02:27:47,800
possibility but that that would be the avenue to go but it's always been a

1779
02:27:47,800 --> 02:27:51,360
perplexing I've always been perplexed while Morgan Town was in the Pittsburgh

1780
02:27:51,360 --> 02:27:58,520
DMA but that's the way it's always been so hopefully they'll just work it out

1781
02:27:58,520 --> 02:28:02,240
amongst themselves and I feel pretty sure they will since a lot of B.O.Y.s

1782
02:28:02,240 --> 02:28:06,580
advertisers are here in this area and that's he's paying their their bills so

1783
02:28:10,210 --> 02:28:33,190
Let me just reiterate, we're telling our city manager to go forth, we'll express our desires, we'll leave it to him to phrase that correctly in a letter to the various entities, and we don't need to see it, we'll bring it back to deliberation.

1784
02:28:33,190 --> 02:28:37,610
They're beyond the fact that they're going to send us the copy when they send us the copy.

1785
02:28:37,830 --> 02:28:39,010
The current was sent out, which is great.

1786
02:28:39,910 --> 02:28:46,650
Prior to, for comments, we're just simply, I think they know our intent.

1787
02:28:47,330 --> 02:28:47,750
There you go.

1788
02:28:48,090 --> 02:28:48,330
All right.

1789
02:28:48,570 --> 02:28:49,050
That's good.

1790
02:28:49,490 --> 02:28:49,850
Thank you.

1791
02:28:51,310 --> 02:28:52,130
One other thing.

1792
02:28:52,410 --> 02:28:58,270
I mean, we could do, you know, to our constituents and the people in the city is to encourage

1793
02:28:58,270 --> 02:29:06,470
them to contact next star and encourage them to work out whatever, because Comcast lose

1794
02:29:06,470 --> 02:29:12,630
is nothing in this, so again, I kind of read between the lines I think, so I think it's

1795
02:29:12,630 --> 02:29:21,850
next star that has to come to the table with the cable provider, and so if people want

1796
02:29:21,850 --> 02:29:25,590
to complain, I guess is what I'm saying, is people want individuals want to complain,

1797
02:29:26,850 --> 02:29:32,550
Collin Comcast is the waste your time because they got no skin in the game they couldn't care less doesn't matter to them

1798
02:29:33,610 --> 02:29:38,670
It's next star. It's B.O.Y. that stands to lose if they're not in this marketplace

1799
02:29:40,530 --> 02:29:47,430
To me that's where the that's where we should direct people's complaints to go is to I don't need to be argumentative, but

1800
02:29:50,170 --> 02:29:55,510
I had people approach me at empty balls and tell me that they were so discouraged with this

1801
02:29:55,590 --> 02:29:59,410
that they were actually going to drop their contrast.

1802
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:01,920
So, it can't cast us, it has something to lose.

1803
02:30:04,320 --> 02:30:07,580
Perhaps not as much, but they do.

1804
02:30:10,980 --> 02:30:11,940
What we need

1805
02:30:12,480 --> 02:30:17,620
the thing to do is to make a better one, our website, the various entities that are

1806
02:30:17,620 --> 02:30:22,460
players in this. I think that's a rule. If someone, once they're at a complaint letter,

1807
02:30:22,460 --> 02:30:25,460
that they have the appropriate people to complain to.

1808
02:30:26,360 --> 02:30:31,040
And in this point in time, it's quite easy to carve and copy

1809
02:30:31,040 --> 02:30:31,440
everybody.

1810
02:30:31,980 --> 02:30:33,580
So by all means, OK.

1811
02:30:35,560 --> 02:30:36,740
Thank you, Julie.

1812
02:30:37,660 --> 02:30:38,400
Completely agree.

1813
02:30:38,700 --> 02:30:40,600
And I think we do need to hit up all the parties,

1814
02:30:40,820 --> 02:30:46,000
because many people are talking about dropping their compass.

1815
02:30:46,120 --> 02:30:48,880
I don't know if they will, but maybe they'll

1816
02:30:48,880 --> 02:30:50,040
be signing up for something else.

1817
02:30:50,200 --> 02:30:51,700
But I think that it's.

1818
02:30:51,700 --> 02:30:52,360
There's the Rob.

1819
02:30:52,700 --> 02:30:52,880
Smart.

1820
02:30:53,140 --> 02:30:58,580
Even though Comcast is large and probably not paying attention, it would be smart to fire

1821
02:30:58,580 --> 02:30:59,380
it off to all of them.

1822
02:31:02,640 --> 02:31:03,820
No more discussion on this.

1823
02:31:04,380 --> 02:31:07,280
We have a course of action.

1824
02:31:07,440 --> 02:31:07,560
Good.

1825
02:31:08,100 --> 02:31:08,280
Very good.

1826
02:31:09,480 --> 02:31:15,620
Next on our list for discussion is a regulation to support the work of Project West Virginia

1827
02:31:16,260 --> 02:31:20,360
and preserve our community and our future of our citizens.

1828
02:31:20,960 --> 02:31:21,400
I

1829
02:31:23,930 --> 02:31:30,810
think we have the resolution included in our packet is there some discussion, some explanation of what this might be?

1830
02:31:31,610 --> 02:31:34,150
Can you provide that or the

1831
02:31:37,410 --> 02:31:38,530
best person to?

1832
02:31:41,130 --> 02:31:44,850
Constellin, I think you may have some information on this. You want to show that with us?

1833
02:31:46,190 --> 02:31:48,210
I wish that I had brought more information on this.

1834
02:31:48,790 --> 02:31:54,210
I think that our mayor may have looked up a little bit more information about this.

1835
02:31:55,190 --> 02:32:02,170
I became aware of this a couple different directions and I know that it's something that has been taken to other communities.

1836
02:32:02,750 --> 02:32:16,510
And that it's just voicing concerns that as we go through this budgetary process at the particularly at the state level that they look to making sure that citizens.

1837
02:32:18,210 --> 02:32:28,530
needs are met that we're not making huge cuts and that we're taking care of education, public safety, roads,

1838
02:32:29,790 --> 02:32:40,650
some of the issues that we all talk about every day and that just asking our legislators to work together and

1839
02:32:40,650 --> 02:32:46,170
come up with real solutions and do it in a timely fashion and it's something that we've all talked about and

1840
02:32:46,170 --> 02:32:47,910
and this is a resolution supporting it

1841
02:32:47,910 --> 02:32:50,710
and I would be in favor of it.

1842
02:32:50,850 --> 02:32:53,570
And I don't know what else the mayor may have,

1843
02:32:53,890 --> 02:32:57,310
but I didn't, I mean, that really sums it up.

1844
02:32:58,720 --> 02:33:00,870
I went to the website and it's basically

1845
02:33:01,220 --> 02:33:04,770
a grassroots group, West Virginia based

1846
02:33:05,330 --> 02:33:11,650
that wants us to support these different items

1847
02:33:11,650 --> 02:33:13,810
and I think really looking at the quality of life

1848
02:33:13,810 --> 02:33:15,570
and looking at the future of West Virginia.

1849
02:33:18,740 --> 02:33:20,980
And the lady that brought it to us,

1850
02:33:21,260 --> 02:33:25,020
I just thought when we have people bring resolutions to us,

1851
02:33:25,340 --> 02:33:26,640
we usually discuss them.

1852
02:33:33,620 --> 02:33:35,340
Any other discussion on this?

1853
02:33:38,720 --> 02:33:41,360
So it's certainly nothing here to object to.

1854
02:33:41,540 --> 02:33:45,520
I mean, we all want the best that we could possibly have.

1855
02:33:47,850 --> 02:33:56,870
And I think perhaps after I visit to Charleston recently and talking with some of our legislators,

1856
02:33:56,870 --> 02:34:08,410
we understand that West Virginia's got a pretty difficult course or road ahead of it to navigate.

1857
02:34:08,410 --> 02:34:16,990
I don't know whether this helps or hinders and there's nothing that I can find objectionable

1858
02:34:17,420 --> 02:34:22,070
to what the request is, other than finding

1859
02:34:24,470 --> 02:34:27,850
the where we're called to implement the request.

1860
02:34:29,110 --> 02:34:36,890
In other words, do we have enough money to do it, but serving in principle, you know, this

1861
02:34:36,890 --> 02:34:37,490
is a good thing.

1862
02:34:39,270 --> 02:34:40,670
What's the Rillow for Council?

1863
02:34:44,150 --> 02:34:45,190
To me, but to the agenda.

1864
02:34:47,530 --> 02:34:49,050
Yeah, to the agenda.

1865
02:34:49,350 --> 02:34:49,670
The resolution.

1866
02:34:52,360 --> 02:34:52,660
Comments?

1867
02:34:55,530 --> 02:34:56,050
Mr. Chairman.

1868
02:34:57,690 --> 02:35:00,110
Again, do we know what communities have signed on?

1869
02:35:00,410 --> 02:35:02,650
It sounds like some research was done on this resolution.

1870
02:35:03,230 --> 02:35:05,250
What other municipalities do we have?

1871
02:35:06,090 --> 02:35:06,530
I don't.

1872
02:35:06,710 --> 02:35:07,250
I don't know.

1873
02:35:07,610 --> 02:35:08,050
I don't know.

1874
02:35:08,150 --> 02:35:10,810
And who's funding that the organization said it was grassroots?

1875
02:35:12,050 --> 02:35:13,410
Do we know who's funding?

1876
02:35:13,410 --> 02:35:14,290
I have no idea.

1877
02:35:15,410 --> 02:35:17,930
I know that they were doing a lot of budget analysis,

1878
02:35:18,370 --> 02:35:19,510
and I have,

1879
02:35:22,240 --> 02:35:24,580
once again, this was brought to us by a citizen

1880
02:35:24,580 --> 02:35:27,240
who wanted to know the process for bringing something forward.

1881
02:35:27,480 --> 02:35:30,160
And so it was done.

1882
02:35:30,480 --> 02:35:33,960
So now it's our choice of whether this is something

1883
02:35:33,960 --> 02:35:35,280
that we'd like to sign on to.

1884
02:35:35,460 --> 02:35:37,540
And are there other efforts that are out there?

1885
02:35:37,660 --> 02:35:39,620
It sounds like, again, we're joining this.

1886
02:35:41,260 --> 02:35:51,800
when shouldn't we just be supporting the work of all groups who seek to find responsible solutions to the budgetary challenges facing the state?

1887
02:35:53,480 --> 02:35:59,380
I think that it's a coalition type of project, so it has three or four different partners.

1888
02:36:00,600 --> 02:36:06,940
And we certainly, I didn't, I assumed that we would have someone here that would describe more about it than what we know.

1889
02:36:06,940 --> 02:36:10,320
And we just didn't happen to do that, and that's something that we certainly could

1890
02:36:11,760 --> 02:36:16,580
for willing to take a little bit of a presentation when it comes to their council meeting.

1891
02:36:16,740 --> 02:36:17,660
We certainly could do that.

1892
02:36:18,640 --> 02:36:22,660
But I don't know a lot more information than what's on this page, except for, I believe,

1893
02:36:22,680 --> 02:36:27,880
there were three, at least three partners that were coming together to put this together.

1894
02:36:28,320 --> 02:36:29,940
And, obviously, it's just a resolution.

1895
02:36:29,940 --> 02:36:31,560
It's a resolution.

1896
02:36:31,920 --> 02:36:33,960
However, it's making our decision.

1897
02:36:33,960 --> 02:36:37,780
Be assured of what we're signed on to.

1898
02:36:38,140 --> 02:36:38,800
I think it'd be helpful.

1899
02:36:43,190 --> 02:36:48,710
I guess my concern is it's very generic.

1900
02:36:52,170 --> 02:36:56,910
And I find it interesting that they are asking or demanding

1901
02:36:56,910 --> 02:36:58,550
real budget solutions.

1902
02:36:58,550 --> 02:37:04,030
questions. I don't know what Protect West Virginia is offering. I don't know what they're

1903
02:37:04,030 --> 02:37:05,350
about or they're from.

1904
02:37:08,310 --> 02:37:12,670
And also too I was in Charleston and talked to one of the

1905
02:37:12,670 --> 02:37:20,190
legislative people that we're talking about getting rid of the income tax. And I was an

1906
02:37:20,190 --> 02:37:30,950
interesting discussion and actually it does make sense but I think throwing it out here it's

1907
02:37:30,950 --> 02:37:37,030
very interesting it's almost saying that whatever this has an over time that whatever's happening

1908
02:37:37,030 --> 02:37:43,850
in Charleston's wrong and we're going to send a resolution down there to say you're wrong that's

1909
02:37:43,850 --> 02:37:50,790
the overtime and that's what I get from it because obviously what they've seen so far

1910
02:37:50,790 --> 02:37:54,610
they don't like and that's fine there's a lot of people don't like what's going on

1911
02:37:54,610 --> 02:38:00,330
down there but you know there's a lot of people that are also saying people are tired

1912
02:38:00,330 --> 02:38:06,030
of being 50th in the United States in a lot of ways so there's a lot of hard decisions made

1913
02:38:06,030 --> 02:38:12,110
down there and it would be tough to be a legislative person down there but we should have to be

1914
02:38:12,110 --> 02:38:18,430
care for when we put something like this that is very generic, and it uses terms that

1915
02:38:20,690 --> 02:38:28,170
they're doing budget cuts, slashing this, that, and the other thing, and the risk of

1916
02:38:28,170 --> 02:38:32,670
hurting families. They haven't even passed a budget yet. They've just made discussions.

1917
02:38:32,670 --> 02:38:39,070
questions. And it's almost like this is like poking a dog.

1918
02:38:41,930 --> 02:38:43,530
Just have to be careful because

1919
02:38:43,530 --> 02:38:48,350
here we just had my colleague just beside and he said she doesn't know anything about

1920
02:38:48,350 --> 02:38:53,590
him. And further, we have a resolution from this, going to say that we're going to join

1921
02:38:53,590 --> 02:38:57,490
him. I think I'm concerned about that.

1922
02:38:59,530 --> 02:39:02,450
He's what you just said. So I'm done.

1923
02:39:05,970 --> 02:39:06,670
Councilor Gates.

1924
02:39:11,770 --> 02:39:16,690
Our state, our country is, guess, facing some budget. In our city, we're

1925
02:39:16,690 --> 02:39:26,370
facing some budget issues. In terms of resolutions, we read resolutions day of that and so forth.

1926
02:39:26,850 --> 02:39:32,470
To me, resolutions are just saying that we respect the day of this, the day of that. And this

1927
02:39:32,470 --> 02:39:40,030
This group to me just says that it's public, that education, public safety and roads are important.

1928
02:39:40,510 --> 02:39:44,090
So to me, this is just saying those are important.

1929
02:39:44,370 --> 02:39:47,070
I wasn't looking at any overtones or undertones.

1930
02:39:47,410 --> 02:39:51,710
I agree that we are enrolled in safe communities.

1931
02:39:52,050 --> 02:39:54,250
We've passed a safe community fee.

1932
02:39:54,950 --> 02:39:59,630
That's one of our core values here under this City Council.

1933
02:39:59,630 --> 02:40:24,450
So education is a core value for all of us sitting here, and roads we pass with the safe community feed the roads of funding, and certainly every council, every word in this room has is benefiting from passing that budget, which increased our budget almost 25%.

1934
02:40:24,450 --> 02:40:28,510
So it's just, to me, it's just saying these are our core values.

1935
02:40:29,290 --> 02:40:31,250
I didn't see any other valence in it.

1936
02:40:31,830 --> 02:40:32,550
I don't know.

1937
02:40:34,980 --> 02:40:35,620
Councilor Whitman.

1938
02:40:36,080 --> 02:40:39,840
Well, I have to say I'm also concerned with sort of the vagaries of it,

1939
02:40:39,980 --> 02:40:45,880
and not only the resolution, but again, I don't know really anything about this particular organization,

1940
02:40:45,880 --> 02:40:47,480
which I would like to know a lot more.

1941
02:40:48,240 --> 02:40:50,580
I just, when I read it into a towel, I just,

1942
02:40:54,410 --> 02:40:56,790
well, even just looking through it and looking at the words,

1943
02:40:56,790 --> 02:41:04,730
You know, I see the word budget cut three times in here, and then I see where it's demanding real budget solutions.

1944
02:41:04,770 --> 02:41:11,450
Well, sometimes, you know, when you run a business, a real budget solution is a cut.

1945
02:41:12,170 --> 02:41:15,650
So I don't know that I could, and I don't think there's any way.

1946
02:41:15,810 --> 02:41:24,030
I mean, I'm not privy to the entirety of the budgetary process in West Virginia, but I'm watching it like everyone else is from where I am.

1947
02:41:24,030 --> 02:41:33,250
And I frankly don't see anybody offering a solution that does not include some cuts.

1948
02:41:34,430 --> 02:41:42,370
I just don't see that's, I don't think West Virginia is going to get out of the mess we're in without some cuts.

1949
02:41:42,910 --> 02:41:47,050
And so when I read this resolution, this seems to be endorsing no cuts.

1950
02:41:48,450 --> 02:41:57,060
And so I would not be able to support it as it's written, but I still would like to hear

1951
02:41:57,060 --> 02:42:02,520
more from the organization and learn a little more about what they're thinking.

1952
02:42:05,480 --> 02:42:10,600
You know, I could reconsider that, but as I said, sometimes real budget solutions are

1953
02:42:10,600 --> 02:42:10,940
cuts.

1954
02:42:11,300 --> 02:42:16,660
I mean, real budget solutions are not always tax increases, sometimes they're cuts.

1955
02:42:16,660 --> 02:42:24,700
and I think that's where West Virginia is right now, so I support the thought behind it.

1956
02:42:25,080 --> 02:42:34,660
I don't want to damage our state any further either, but sometimes you have to make hard decisions.

1957
02:42:35,080 --> 02:42:39,540
And I think that's where we are and I just again don't know enough about this to support it.

1958
02:42:41,400 --> 02:42:45,560
I would like to suggest that this come back to the March committee of the whole

1959
02:42:45,560 --> 02:42:58,220
and that the maybe invite the resident that presented this to us and the

1960
02:42:58,220 --> 02:43:03,660
organization to come and give a presentation about it if people would like

1961
02:43:03,660 --> 02:43:08,700
more information and I'd also suggest that you know when we have things on the

1962
02:43:08,700 --> 02:43:14,240
agenda like this that you know we all try to look up more information ourselves

1963
02:43:14,240 --> 02:43:15,240
So

1964
02:43:20,200 --> 02:43:23,660
bring it back to the meeting of the law next month.

1965
02:43:25,240 --> 02:43:30,360
I don't want to make a modification to that suggestion.

1966
02:43:31,060 --> 02:43:37,380
I would suggest that we'll get to the end of the legislative session, which is what

1967
02:43:37,380 --> 02:43:38,460
this is trying to influence.

1968
02:43:38,900 --> 02:43:45,260
And if we wait a month to do this, that it becomes less useful.

1969
02:43:45,260 --> 02:44:13,160
And so I would suggest that if we're wanting to do anything with it, that we bring it to the next meeting where representative is available and have them speak in the public portion before this comes up so that we would be better informed before we considered it with you be willing to modify that that be because it's a resolution.

1970
02:44:13,160 --> 02:44:21,820
We don't need what I'm hearing here is that there's some language here that some of our

1971
02:44:21,820 --> 02:44:29,760
counselors find uncomfortable and to bring it forth to the next meeting and even with an

1972
02:44:29,760 --> 02:44:33,380
explanation doesn't change the language.

1973
02:44:35,420 --> 02:44:40,560
Then maybe for this year we should just drop it because

1974
02:44:40,560 --> 02:44:47,400
because I don't know the legislative session will be about how well living more than half

1975
02:44:47,400 --> 02:44:47,680
over.

1976
02:44:50,500 --> 02:44:52,300
Yeah because it started a month later.

1977
02:44:53,280 --> 02:44:53,440
Right.

1978
02:44:53,760 --> 02:44:54,400
It started in February.

1979
02:44:54,860 --> 02:44:56,020
It ends in April.

1980
02:44:57,960 --> 02:44:59,960
So I just think the decisions are.

1981
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:08,960
They're being made, some of the decisions are being made over the next one. So, for it to be effective for citizens, I'm not sure that if we wait a month, that that will,

1982
02:45:18,020 --> 02:45:19,080
we

1983
02:45:23,780 --> 02:45:32,340
could get someone to speak during the public portion of our next meeting. Then we could decide at that point what we wanted to do with it is that a legitimate,

1984
02:45:38,360 --> 02:45:45,960
I mean, this is a legislative process. So I'm just trying to think of a way that we could, if we, it's a proclamation, I mean, it's not a proclamation, it's one step different, it's a resolution.

1985
02:45:52,630 --> 02:46:08,090
I would be glad to leave it as coming up again at the March committee of the whole and maybe ask that if somebody were to speak at the next meeting in the public portion and were to change people's minds that we potentially could consider at the next meeting.

1986
02:46:08,090 --> 02:46:15,710
My understanding is to have something, and perhaps somebody can correct me, maybe our

1987
02:46:15,710 --> 02:46:21,570
council can correct me on this, that to have a resolution we don't necessarily have

1988
02:46:21,570 --> 02:46:27,570
to bring the resolution first to the committee of the whole before we put the resolution on

1989
02:46:28,270 --> 02:46:28,970
the agenda.

1990
02:46:29,310 --> 02:46:29,750
Is that correct?

1991
02:46:30,210 --> 02:46:30,510
That's correct.

1992
02:46:34,750 --> 02:46:36,210
So, let's do it this way.

1993
02:46:36,470 --> 02:46:40,210
If you can get somebody that come and talk during the public portion next time around

1994
02:46:40,210 --> 02:46:45,910
and we can have a better understanding and perhaps maybe even have them reconsider

1995
02:46:45,910 --> 02:46:51,470
what you're asking here in terms of a resolution, we may be able to bring it forth more quickly.

1996
02:46:53,010 --> 02:46:53,730
Is that help?

1997
02:46:54,130 --> 02:46:54,230
Yep.

1998
02:46:56,390 --> 02:46:57,050
Is that acceptable?

1999
02:46:57,150 --> 02:46:57,510
Is that all right?

2000
02:46:57,730 --> 02:46:59,930
If once you have a compromise?

2001
02:47:00,590 --> 02:47:00,730
Mm-hmm.

2002
02:47:00,730 --> 02:47:01,830
I have consensus.

2003
02:47:02,690 --> 02:47:03,630
Good, then we'll move on.

2004
02:47:03,770 --> 02:47:04,250
Thank you.

2005
02:47:05,370 --> 02:47:12,930
All right, last for discussion is fiscal year 2017-2018

2006
02:47:12,930 --> 02:47:14,590
budget discussion.

2007
02:47:18,320 --> 02:47:18,720
Go ahead.

2008
02:47:18,800 --> 02:47:20,660
Chairman, if I can start with the introduction,

2009
02:47:21,120 --> 02:47:25,320
then I have Scott provided additional details.

2010
02:47:25,800 --> 02:47:27,300
I want to talk about process-wise.

2011
02:47:28,060 --> 02:47:31,780
So last week, you received this draft document,

2012
02:47:31,780 --> 02:47:38,140
that includes the general fund, coal severance fund, and the capital escrow funds budgets.

2013
02:47:38,980 --> 02:47:46,820
So for purposes of this evening, we are holding a workshop to discuss some of the particular elements and

2014
02:47:46,820 --> 02:47:53,660
questions that you have and perhaps additional research that the staff can do and provide additional clarity.

2015
02:47:53,660 --> 02:48:04,600
At the following meeting, the regular meeting on March 7th, that will be included as part of the agenda.

2016
02:48:05,160 --> 02:48:10,820
So the first reading of the budget ordinance will be done at the council meeting.

2017
02:48:11,400 --> 02:48:16,160
The following meeting in March on the 21st will be the second reading of the ordinance.

2018
02:48:16,160 --> 02:48:31,500
And ultimately what we're up against the requirement that we provide the two budgets, the general fund and the coal severance fund, those are required to go to the state auditor's office on or before March 28th.

2019
02:48:31,800 --> 02:48:39,700
So just a review of the looming deadline and what we're required to incompliance the state law.

2020
02:48:39,700 --> 02:48:51,620
So, to go over to this very briefly and kind of highlight the letter that it presented that gives you an overview of the upcoming spending plan.

2021
02:48:52,380 --> 02:49:04,800
This grant budget has $33.4 million that includes a projected $980,000 carryover and a contingency of $281,000.

2022
02:49:05,600 --> 02:49:07,300
It's a slight decrease.

2023
02:49:07,900 --> 02:49:12,940
We've had this different variation depending on the activity of the B&O and

2024
02:49:12,940 --> 02:49:16,960
that's adjusted the overall dollar amount that we need to look at.

2025
02:49:17,860 --> 02:49:24,100
But you, in comparison to this time last year, my predecessor,

2026
02:49:24,580 --> 02:49:27,480
the budget that he presented is a slight decrease.

2027
02:49:28,300 --> 02:49:32,320
So of course, since we're in the service providing business,

2028
02:49:32,320 --> 02:49:40,400
the salaries and taxes and benefits account for over 55% of the budget.

2029
02:49:40,840 --> 02:49:43,540
So, meaning translate into our workforce.

2030
02:49:44,460 --> 02:49:52,940
So, what we are able to do through the municipal service fee is that this includes five police

2031
02:49:52,940 --> 02:50:00,580
hires, four road officers and a support staff person at a cost of over 302,000.

2032
02:50:00,580 --> 02:50:08,800
and there's an additional public works employees at the cost of $53,000, including salary and benefits.

2033
02:50:09,120 --> 02:50:15,880
So for the last two years, we've increased our workforce through adjustment and

2034
02:50:15,880 --> 02:50:22,840
re-enlightment of 10 new police officers and five additional staff in the streets department.

2035
02:50:24,140 --> 02:50:29,540
Including the budget plan, but as in that funded by the municipal service fee is two budget maintenance.

2036
02:50:30,860 --> 02:50:39,400
staffers at a total cost of 120,000 and just based on the number of facilities that we have and the amount of maintenance that's required.

2037
02:50:40,620 --> 02:50:48,980
We do include a retention plan for the firefighters that mirrors what was done in the police department.

2038
02:50:48,980 --> 02:50:58,180
So that's included in here, it's an increase of $1.75 per hour and that's for a more senior

2039
02:50:58,180 --> 02:51:02,980
firefighter and the overall cost is $130,000.

2040
02:51:03,980 --> 02:51:10,760
Speaking of adjustments for the entire workforce, there's calculated out a cost of living

2041
02:51:10,760 --> 02:51:30,520
increase or otherwise referred to as COLAG, that's based on the consumer price index CPI for 12 months looking at the information from the federal Department of Labor through the end of the calendar year of 2016 is at 2.1%.

2042
02:51:30,520 --> 02:51:41,060
So that's included in calculated that cost is $275,000 and that adjusts the base pay of all employees.

2043
02:51:42,020 --> 02:51:49,720
Health insurance does, for the workforce, there's an increase based on the cost of healthcare going up and

2044
02:51:49,720 --> 02:51:58,000
participated in the renewal in January of 2018 and so that's approximately $520,000.

2045
02:51:58,610 --> 02:52:07,900
And part of that cost that's a large amount of over half a million is attributable to the new employees.

2046
02:52:08,280 --> 02:52:16,480
So just for the base workforce it's about $300,000 and then an additional $200,000 because we're adding on new employees.

2047
02:52:16,480 --> 02:52:18,240
So just be aware of that.

2048
02:52:19,000 --> 02:52:29,480
Again, as I mentioned, the municipal service fee, there's equipment associated with that where we purchased a little less than $900,000 for the street's department.

2049
02:52:29,880 --> 02:52:46,260
That includes replacing five cruisers per year, and as we were called last week, we approved the purchasing of the paving equipment and the new pickup trucks, plows and spreaders, and so again, that was included because of the fee.

2050
02:52:46,260 --> 02:52:49,300
that we're able to provide those additional services.

2051
02:52:50,220 --> 02:52:55,740
So the budget does include a quarter million dollar contribution to the fund's stabilization

2052
02:52:56,240 --> 02:53:03,380
or excuse me, the financial stabilization fund, and to continue the city's effort

2053
02:53:03,380 --> 02:53:04,800
of a rainy day fund.

2054
02:53:05,640 --> 02:53:11,900
With this increase, the fund balance will exceed the 1.5 million, up from less than just

2055
02:53:11,900 --> 02:53:16,280
is to half a million at the end of fiscal year 2016.

2056
02:53:17,240 --> 02:53:19,760
So post state law, the maximum that we can set aside

2057
02:53:19,760 --> 02:53:22,520
in this arrangement would be 30% of the general fund,

2058
02:53:22,580 --> 02:53:23,620
which would be $11 million.

2059
02:53:24,340 --> 02:53:27,260
So this, the broad brush overview,

2060
02:53:29,260 --> 02:53:32,640
if I may, Mr. Chairman, defer to Dr. Goffen

2061
02:53:32,640 --> 02:53:36,500
and indulge you in additional particulars

2062
02:53:36,500 --> 02:53:39,060
that pertains to the budget plan.

2063
02:53:39,060 --> 02:53:45,860
But I did want to acknowledge, I would be remiss for all the work that Jim and Glenn Kelly

2064
02:53:46,900 --> 02:53:50,660
really were instrumental. I wish I could take credit for only being three weeks on

2065
02:53:51,380 --> 02:53:55,580
putting this thing together. So I got the privilege of writing the cover letter then

2066
02:53:55,580 --> 02:54:01,780
then Carol Allen is part of my staff that's really, and of course all the department directors that

2067
02:54:02,420 --> 02:54:08,760
tirelessly put together, there's some metals in the agencies and so it's truly a team effort

2068
02:54:08,760 --> 02:54:19,640
But I get to be the lead the parade if you will and so, but I really should acknowledge the work that was done prior to my arrival here. So, thank you.

2069
02:54:22,740 --> 02:54:26,640
Just whatever is complicated, whatever is comfortable.

2070
02:54:29,640 --> 02:54:34,680
Do you feel that you just tap on that microphone to make sure that it's on?

2071
02:54:34,680 --> 02:54:42,000
Okay, very good. Do you have any questions? Discussions?

2072
02:54:45,150 --> 02:54:45,670
Representation?

2073
02:54:47,090 --> 02:54:49,090
We're going to get a budget without any questions.

2074
02:54:50,530 --> 02:54:50,730
Wow.

2075
02:54:51,230 --> 02:54:51,710
Definitely not.

2076
02:54:51,710 --> 02:54:52,510
Okay, let's go.

2077
02:54:57,670 --> 02:54:59,310
Last but not least.

2078
02:55:01,470 --> 02:55:01,990
Not

2079
02:55:05,800 --> 02:55:06,400
so yet.

2080
02:55:06,880 --> 02:55:07,140
Go ahead.

2081
02:55:07,300 --> 02:55:09,260
But I just wanted to make a comment.

2082
02:55:09,260 --> 02:55:14,460
And I do appreciate how you laid this out, Carol or Jim, who ever did.

2083
02:55:15,000 --> 02:55:21,180
I noticed that the budgets by service and I appreciate you noting that it's a service industry we're in.

2084
02:55:21,460 --> 02:55:25,060
And that 70% is police, fire and public works.

2085
02:55:25,860 --> 02:55:35,440
And so I was just saying that for the public, you can probably view this online, is it available on our city website?

2086
02:55:35,440 --> 02:55:39,560
It's a small, I don't believe it is, but that's easy enough.

2087
02:55:39,740 --> 02:55:40,460
We'll put it in another place.

2088
02:55:40,480 --> 02:55:46,700
I appreciate that because I think the simplest part would be nice to be online and that

2089
02:55:46,700 --> 02:55:52,420
would be the pie sheet that's budget by service type people often ask me especially since

2090
02:55:52,420 --> 02:55:59,260
we've increased the, we have the user fee or the safe community fee and so forth with Pupin.

2091
02:55:59,420 --> 02:56:02,560
Then of course the fire fees were raised the other year and then we had a fire loved

2092
02:56:02,560 --> 02:56:03,420
And so forth and so on.

2093
02:56:03,600 --> 02:56:07,920
People always asking me about basically what's on this pie chart.

2094
02:56:08,180 --> 02:56:09,120
So this is just a comment.

2095
02:56:09,260 --> 02:56:10,000
It's not a question.

2096
02:56:10,320 --> 02:56:12,180
I'm just asking you to post that, please.

2097
02:56:12,540 --> 02:56:15,060
And the explanation, I think, is really good.

2098
02:56:15,760 --> 02:56:20,380
I'd like your cover couple pages if that could be just so people

2099
02:56:20,380 --> 02:56:22,240
could, that would just really help my residents.

2100
02:56:22,740 --> 02:56:24,820
So thank you for such an excellent presentation.

2101
02:56:25,680 --> 02:56:26,040
Thank you.

2102
02:56:27,420 --> 02:56:29,420
Very well written, easily understood.

2103
02:56:29,820 --> 02:56:30,480
Thank you for that.

2104
02:56:30,700 --> 02:56:31,680
I need that help.

2105
02:56:39,480 --> 02:56:45,200
So, as you get down through, you did the coal, you did the, and that's, that will be

2106
02:56:45,200 --> 02:56:55,720
a permanent level to the base wage, but also a new insurance, which is another 500,000,

2107
02:56:55,720 --> 02:57:00,320
so roughly, all the other, that's $800,000, roughly.

2108
02:57:02,680 --> 02:57:08,300
also the wages that went up for the adjustment for the fire department that's

2109
02:57:08,300 --> 02:57:16,200
120,000 that's about 920,000 and then I think there was another one in there so

2110
02:57:16,200 --> 02:57:23,140
what we've added to the base is approximately about a million dollars give it

2111
02:57:23,140 --> 02:57:23,600
Sure.

2112
02:57:23,980 --> 02:57:24,080
Okay.

2113
02:57:24,980 --> 02:57:33,820
So when we look at the user fee, we roughly get about $4.2 million, move it off.

2114
02:57:35,080 --> 02:57:41,820
Roughly about $4.5, $4.5, $4.5, so that's your estimate.

2115
02:57:42,660 --> 02:57:51,400
So right now for this coming year, we will, from now on, get roughly $3.5 because you've

2116
02:57:51,400 --> 02:57:55,800
added a million to the base, because those are hard operations numbers.

2117
02:57:56,540 --> 02:57:59,080
When you look at insurance, you look at COLA as you look at

2118
02:58:00,080 --> 02:58:01,240
adjustments to the salaries.

2119
02:58:02,560 --> 02:58:03,660
My concern is,

2120
02:58:05,740 --> 02:58:07,880
if you look at in long term,

2121
02:58:09,160 --> 02:58:11,020
then it would get down to 3.5.

2122
02:58:12,040 --> 02:58:15,580
And then when we look at hard numbers again and add to the

2123
02:58:16,820 --> 02:58:20,220
budget, another COLA, another adjustment

2124
02:58:21,920 --> 02:58:24,580
for the following year, it may be another million dollars.

2125
02:58:25,420 --> 02:58:28,040
Then, if you use a fee, it goes to $2.5 million.

2126
02:58:29,480 --> 02:58:33,660
I'm just concerned we've got, you know,

2127
02:58:34,700 --> 02:58:36,640
I know we have to take care of our employees,

2128
02:58:36,800 --> 02:58:39,580
and that's like, that's a number one thing for all of us.

2129
02:58:40,320 --> 02:58:43,380
But also to it, we have smart about how we're doing this

2130
02:58:43,380 --> 02:58:47,220
because if you look at this in a short period of time,

2131
02:58:47,220 --> 02:58:54,500
it would be approximately three years you'd roughly be back in here asking for that

2132
02:58:54,500 --> 02:58:59,480
thrill or fee to go up because you're adding to the hard numbers to the base.

2133
02:59:01,480 --> 02:59:06,960
I understand retention is very, very important and it's something we wanted to do and adding

2134
02:59:06,960 --> 02:59:16,420
police officers was the will of this council and but I'm just concerned I mean I think it's

2135
02:59:16,420 --> 02:59:22,860
It's great that we have the money right now, but we're not looking at business development

2136
02:59:23,580 --> 02:59:30,860
to help the base so that the user fee actually does what it's supposed to be doing, because

2137
02:59:30,860 --> 02:59:37,020
sooner or later it's going to get to the payment budget because that 4.5 is for a lot of

2138
02:59:37,020 --> 02:59:42,640
different things, paying, equipment, all the things that are executed through that.

2139
02:59:42,640 --> 02:59:50,240
The retention was one of the places of it, of course, but retention was from military operations.

2140
02:59:51,900 --> 02:59:58,420
So, I hear thoughts on that and concerns, and I can pull it off the place here.

2141
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:29,620
Well, if I may, I would have jumped into this first off. To suggest, I don't think this is your words, but to suggest that the user fee is surplanting the funding. Because, keep in mind, there's been carryover that's been brought into this budget. We've gone as an organization long time with not having filled positions. So, it's really offset by our normal operating costs that are paying for that. So, so it's number one. And anticipation in the future,

2142
03:00:29,620 --> 03:00:43,960
Since this is first school around, I can tell you this year's budget next year and I don't mean this is critical, but I'm going to show you projections and we're going to look at things in the long term and making sure that we're right size in the organization.

2143
03:00:44,620 --> 03:00:52,200
But based on the service demands and the department directors, they know where we need to have the staffing in place.

2144
03:00:52,200 --> 03:00:58,120
At the same time, I'm concerned about, we have competing employers in this area.

2145
03:00:58,960 --> 03:01:02,040
And, you know, what I don't want to continually,

2146
03:01:02,620 --> 03:01:05,520
I mean to recruit new employees because we lose someone.

2147
03:01:05,840 --> 03:01:13,340
And I realize it's acknowledged that it's for retention purposes that we remain competitive as an employer in that regard.

2148
03:01:13,820 --> 03:01:20,260
So, I think being the good stories of the public money.

2149
03:01:20,260 --> 03:01:27,120
So it's, you know, asking the right questions, and I think for future purposes, when we add to the base,

2150
03:01:27,940 --> 03:01:33,760
keep in mind that the workforce, they went in several years where there were no increases at all.

2151
03:01:33,980 --> 03:01:39,180
You know, granted those were lean years, and so we were living with intervenes, and I get that.

2152
03:01:40,080 --> 03:01:47,340
But now that we do have the ability with the ebbs and flows, and particularly with the additional collection with the B&O,

2153
03:01:47,340 --> 03:01:52,380
which had nothing to do with the municipal service fee, we do have the ability of making those

2154
03:01:52,380 --> 03:01:58,800
sort of adjustments. So I feel pretty, I feel very confident in the spending plan that

2155
03:01:58,800 --> 03:02:04,880
we put forward, but periodically as there's adjustments in the economy, we'll have to adjust

2156
03:02:04,880 --> 03:02:12,320
accordingly. We'll have to either look at being a better deploy of technology that we can

2157
03:02:12,320 --> 03:02:17,080
make better use of our workforce. We may have to look at partnering with other organizations

2158
03:02:17,540 --> 03:02:24,280
and look at where there may be duplication of services. We may have to look at making

2159
03:02:24,280 --> 03:02:31,480
reductions and or using perhaps the private sector to help supplement the services.

2160
03:02:32,060 --> 03:02:37,420
So there's many different options that we can adjust the organization as we move forward.

2161
03:02:37,420 --> 03:02:48,020
But where we're at right now is taking care of our people infrastructure within the organization and so as we look at adding to the workforce

2162
03:02:49,740 --> 03:02:59,480
that retention part that is very critical because again, being in the recruiting mode of, you know, recruiting both in the public and the private sector

2163
03:02:59,480 --> 03:03:02,760
right now it's an employee market, not employer.

2164
03:03:03,720 --> 03:03:10,900
And so from that respect, we do have a very dedicated work force and one to keep those individuals.

2165
03:03:11,360 --> 03:03:14,900
If someone chooses to improve themselves professionally, I won't hold anyone back.

2166
03:03:15,460 --> 03:03:23,180
But for the individuals that we have that institutional knowledge and, you know, it pains me when I see, you know,

2167
03:03:23,180 --> 03:03:26,560
and coming months, even within the police and fire,

2168
03:03:26,980 --> 03:03:30,500
they're eligible to retire, but there's institutional knowledge

2169
03:03:30,500 --> 03:03:31,960
that is walking out the door.

2170
03:03:32,560 --> 03:03:37,720
And so I think we talked about that during my interview process

2171
03:03:37,720 --> 03:03:39,940
of succession planning.

2172
03:03:40,720 --> 03:03:44,580
And I want to be able to train the employees within the workforce

2173
03:03:44,580 --> 03:03:47,400
so when those retirements naturally occur

2174
03:03:47,960 --> 03:03:51,280
and the employees have that desire to move up within the organization

2175
03:03:51,280 --> 03:03:56,640
that we have equipped them with the ability to promote them and so we can retain as much

2176
03:03:56,640 --> 03:03:58,640
of that institutional memory as possible.

2177
03:03:59,160 --> 03:04:03,680
So that's kind of a, I'm giving you much, much broader philosophical than what you asked

2178
03:04:03,680 --> 03:04:08,240
for, but giving you a lot of careful thought to this, you know, I'm coming in in the middle

2179
03:04:08,240 --> 03:04:14,300
of the conversation, but what you have going on here is not that unique.

2180
03:04:14,980 --> 03:04:16,960
But I think you do ask some good questions.

2181
03:04:16,960 --> 03:04:23,820
I think we need to do some pretty hard projections, and my plan is to give you that three or five

2182
03:04:23,820 --> 03:04:29,340
year outlook because the economists can give us kind of an indicator of where the, you know,

2183
03:04:29,440 --> 03:04:34,920
north central part of West Virginia is heading, and we can extrapolate that information.

2184
03:04:35,660 --> 03:04:42,380
I think with the university, with future building plans, you know, there we're getting a little

2185
03:04:42,380 --> 03:04:46,280
bit of a lot on the construction, but, you know, we're anticipating there's the possibility of

2186
03:04:46,280 --> 03:04:52,120
Rebecca Bump back up, and so, I think we do need to be conservative, we don't need

2187
03:04:52,120 --> 03:04:59,240
to live beyond our means, and I get that, and I can tell you that coming from the state

2188
03:04:59,240 --> 03:05:05,860
of Michigan, we've had a decade of recession, and so I'm used to reduction, reduction, reduction,

2189
03:05:06,140 --> 03:05:11,460
but it's also at the same time it's challenged us to be very innovative and to look at different

2190
03:05:11,460 --> 03:05:16,740
practices and how we can best utilize, but at the same time, you know, keep a good

2191
03:05:16,740 --> 03:05:23,420
people that we have within the workforce. So I'm sure Jim can add to that if

2192
03:05:23,420 --> 03:05:27,860
there's anything else that I didn't cover in that regard. So if I may, Mr. Chair,

2193
03:05:28,060 --> 03:05:31,120
to allow him to expound further, please.

2194
03:05:33,160 --> 03:05:39,680
Well, the layers that you speak of, the user fee, as you know, is broken down into

2195
03:05:39,680 --> 03:05:45,500
to the different categories, police personnel, street personnel, equipment, and then payment.

2196
03:05:46,740 --> 03:05:53,240
So what, you know, with the retention pay that we've built in for our police department,

2197
03:05:54,900 --> 03:05:59,800
that is for retention and that's because the cost of training new officers and bringing

2198
03:05:59,800 --> 03:06:02,840
new officers on board is significant, as you know.

2199
03:06:02,840 --> 03:06:14,620
But that cost, yes, it does take away from the user fee, the $4.5 million, but that's

2200
03:06:14,620 --> 03:06:18,560
what it's intended to be used for that.

2201
03:06:18,800 --> 03:06:26,060
So those retention pay increases for the police force amounted to approximately $500,000.

2202
03:06:26,060 --> 03:06:35,080
dollars. So that's a piece of the user fee that people are paying for. Additionally,

2203
03:06:35,480 --> 03:06:48,000
the new staffing that we've built into the plan, approximately $720,000 of that is

2204
03:06:48,000 --> 03:06:51,800
police, that 10 additional officers that are going to be on the street.

2205
03:06:54,420 --> 03:06:55,560
Right now,

2206
03:06:55,560 --> 03:07:18,960
While that's all I anticipate as we're able to add at this point, unless our user fee does go up over time and the employers move in and we get additional funding available there, but the point was to staff up to a level that utilized what the public was expecting.

2207
03:07:19,920 --> 03:07:22,900
We've done the same on the street department side.

2208
03:07:23,300 --> 03:07:33,260
We've added five additional user fee related positions to maintain our streets, to do paving, repairs,

2209
03:07:33,800 --> 03:07:36,260
different plowing, different things of that nature.

2210
03:07:38,740 --> 03:07:48,160
So likewise, the equipment we're trying to utilize the amounts of money, which are significant $468,000 for

2211
03:07:48,160 --> 03:07:51,180
of a police department to buy cruisers,

2212
03:07:52,620 --> 03:07:56,220
equip the new officers, different things like that,

2213
03:07:56,480 --> 03:07:58,460
and buy equipment for our street department.

2214
03:07:59,200 --> 03:08:02,700
So the 44% that goes to paving,

2215
03:08:02,700 --> 03:08:05,260
which is a little over $2 million a year,

2216
03:08:06,260 --> 03:08:09,940
that automatically goes to paving.

2217
03:08:10,820 --> 03:08:14,720
I mean, in my mind, those funds are already spoken for.

2218
03:08:20,370 --> 03:08:31,730
I mean, there are some layers here, we did a budget in a fire retention pay, and that's something that gave me disgust.

2219
03:08:32,130 --> 03:08:39,690
I mean, it definitely does not come from the user fee, but it's based on a comparable increase for

2220
03:08:39,690 --> 03:08:46,690
our firefighters that the police force, the 10 year employees received.

2221
03:08:46,690 --> 03:08:47,410
Any

2222
03:08:50,770 --> 03:08:52,190
additional questions or comments?

2223
03:08:57,440 --> 03:08:57,520
Good.

2224
03:08:57,860 --> 03:08:57,940
Go ahead.

2225
03:08:58,600 --> 03:08:59,540
Let your finger up first.

2226
03:09:00,580 --> 03:09:00,820
You can go.

2227
03:09:01,760 --> 03:09:06,000
I mean, I had specific questions, you know, looking through the, looking through some

2228
03:09:06,000 --> 03:09:11,860
of the general fund, for example, on page two, IRP trucks, the, that seems like an outlier

2229
03:09:11,860 --> 03:09:17,260
and our revenues this year can you help provide some understanding why that number is up?

2230
03:09:21,910 --> 03:09:25,150
I, I don't have a whole lot of information on the IRP truck.

2231
03:09:25,150 --> 03:09:31,750
That's based on, that's a check that we received from the State of West Virginia,

2232
03:09:32,230 --> 03:09:33,290
the auditor's office.

2233
03:09:33,770 --> 03:09:43,510
It's based on registrations of trucks and I think based on the truck traffic that

2234
03:09:43,510 --> 03:09:48,970
fee has gone up and is trending up.

2235
03:09:48,970 --> 03:09:49,890
However,

2236
03:09:52,170 --> 03:09:58,430
we have it proposed in the budget as $90,000 when this actual 2015-16 was $156.

2237
03:10:01,260 --> 03:10:03,240
So I guess we're just expecting to go back down.

2238
03:10:03,880 --> 03:10:04,480
It's not a problem.

2239
03:10:04,580 --> 03:10:05,200
It comes in high.

2240
03:10:06,080 --> 03:10:13,840
I mean, you want a budget conservative with your revenues because we don't want a budget

2241
03:10:13,840 --> 03:10:17,740
high on our expense side and then revenues not come in to support it.

2242
03:10:17,740 --> 03:10:28,960
But I mean, trending-wise, tracking for the year 2016-17, we are tracking towards

2243
03:10:28,960 --> 03:10:32,260
about $100,000 halfway through the year.

2244
03:10:32,860 --> 03:10:43,380
So $90,000 is a little bit down from that, I know, gas and things like that are off-sum,

2245
03:10:43,380 --> 03:10:49,280
So, I can get additional information on the RP fees.

2246
03:10:50,760 --> 03:10:58,000
And then, remind me on the utility taxes, are those fixed or the variables that

2247
03:11:00,120 --> 03:11:01,860
are based on the revenues?

2248
03:11:02,520 --> 03:11:07,820
It's like an excise tax, based on usage, that would consume them.

2249
03:11:08,760 --> 03:11:11,720
So, but it's on the amount that the add consumers overall pay.

2250
03:11:12,580 --> 03:11:20,960
So, you know, for example, we've had our utilities, we've seen those increase and however

2251
03:11:20,960 --> 03:11:26,180
the, I'll say you there, then I'm looking at the projected for this year is 172, like

2252
03:11:26,180 --> 03:11:35,460
I'm just using the Mub utility tax, actual 2015-16, so it looks like we've adjusted that

2253
03:11:35,460 --> 03:11:35,740
upwards.

2254
03:11:35,940 --> 03:11:36,080
Okay.

2255
03:11:37,200 --> 03:11:40,360
Yeah, that's based on their increase fee.

2256
03:11:40,760 --> 03:11:40,880
Right.

2257
03:11:40,880 --> 03:11:44,960
Okay, so this definitely takes into fact all those increases.

2258
03:11:45,480 --> 03:11:53,380
Yes, and gas utilities are down this year, so we're trending below budget there.

2259
03:11:53,840 --> 03:11:59,200
However, we're trending above budget on the electric side because the electric had a 9% increase last year.

2260
03:12:01,580 --> 03:12:01,920
That's helpful.

2261
03:12:02,720 --> 03:12:06,580
I don't want to use dropping off as well, so you can see that it's been trending over.

2262
03:12:06,680 --> 03:12:10,760
Well, that's, yeah, I know that that's something that has been discussed at the county level as well.

2263
03:12:10,760 --> 03:12:13,640
So that's an interesting one to look at.

2264
03:12:14,180 --> 03:12:18,600
On the expenditures we can maybe switch over into there.

2265
03:12:18,780 --> 03:12:24,000
I see that we're adding cell phone expenditures, some departments.

2266
03:12:25,420 --> 03:12:28,680
Is there a standard amount that's being offered per employee?

2267
03:12:28,980 --> 03:12:32,440
How's that can offer any information on that?

2268
03:12:32,440 --> 03:12:32,500
Yeah.

2269
03:12:32,840 --> 03:12:38,220
At the director level, it's a $60 a month stipend.

2270
03:12:38,980 --> 03:12:46,360
And for lower levels that are determined to be needed, it's a $30.

2271
03:12:46,640 --> 03:12:46,740
Yeah.

2272
03:12:48,000 --> 03:12:48,600
That's helpful enough.

2273
03:12:49,780 --> 03:12:52,780
If you want to switch over to us, see which page is police,

2274
03:12:56,880 --> 03:12:58,820
the 20 page.

2275
03:12:59,780 --> 03:13:03,160
I'm sorry, but are we going to go through this step by step or just everybody just asked

2276
03:13:03,160 --> 03:13:03,820
a question?

2277
03:13:04,540 --> 03:13:06,540
It's just that it can be done.

2278
03:13:07,640 --> 03:13:16,340
Over time, I see we're projecting page 20, or 19, I'm sorry, I thought it was 20,

2279
03:13:16,460 --> 03:13:16,820
it's 19,

2280
03:13:21,960 --> 03:13:27,500
we're keeping the over time about the same as it stands for that, I mean,

2281
03:13:27,580 --> 03:13:29,880
that's a major, that department has the large over time.

2282
03:13:30,500 --> 03:13:37,520
I was just wondering what point might be anticipated if possible, unless the new way

2283
03:13:37,520 --> 03:13:41,360
that the new zones will be handled, will we see, can we expect that that number will come

2284
03:13:41,360 --> 03:13:42,040
down at some point?

2285
03:13:42,320 --> 03:13:42,460
Yes.

2286
03:13:43,420 --> 03:13:49,860
I've spoken with Chief Preston, and as we get the ten officers on the street, he'll

2287
03:13:49,860 --> 03:13:56,360
be able to do some things with scheduling to avoid these super long shifts where guys are

2288
03:13:56,360 --> 03:14:00,300
doing the bar duty and different things like that on the weekends.

2289
03:14:00,680 --> 03:14:04,940
So yes, he anticipates that number, we'll definitely come down.

2290
03:14:04,940 --> 03:14:16,520
We're looking probably 2018 because the staffing that we're talking about adding now, by the time we get these July 1, we'll be the budget here.

2291
03:14:17,100 --> 03:14:21,640
At the time we get those staff on board, sent to the academy, trained.

2292
03:14:22,100 --> 03:14:28,820
We're looking into 2018, middle of 2018, towards the end, before we're fully staffed.

2293
03:14:29,200 --> 03:14:29,460
Okay.

2294
03:14:30,080 --> 03:14:34,120
It's helpful. And the coal severance, yes.

2295
03:14:34,540 --> 03:14:39,560
Yeah, that's not listed. It's a pink page in between the as per such.

2296
03:14:40,800 --> 03:14:46,720
I see we're keeping the coal severance tax. It's just, and this is obviously just an estimate, $60,000.

2297
03:14:46,820 --> 03:14:51,680
Is the rationale for that? Perhaps what is that?

2298
03:14:52,620 --> 03:14:56,260
Why are we keeping that number as it is? Is that related to the airport?

2299
03:14:58,080 --> 03:14:59,880
No, that's that's that's based on.

2300
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:29,860
On call, severance, tax for the county. So we're named. Oh, I know that, but that's, yeah, we're proposed. Depending on getting balances 5490, and we're, you know, just seeing where it's trending, it doesn't seem like realistic to expect that we're going to have $60,000 coming back. Does it? I think we've, we've kind of hit bottom or 2015, 16. We were at 68,000. And this year we are trending.

2301
03:15:29,860 --> 03:15:42,320
being towards at 60 or low 60s, so based on that that's how I determine being comfortable with projecting 60,000 for next year.

2302
03:15:43,600 --> 03:15:44,660
Thank you.

2303
03:15:47,740 --> 03:15:59,540
So I'm in agreement with on being that we do need to be careful with adding new employees and I think it's part of the sort of how

2304
03:15:59,540 --> 03:16:02,960
about a weather long term as a city.

2305
03:16:03,440 --> 03:16:07,420
And so we have done a nice job of adding some employees.

2306
03:16:10,340 --> 03:16:13,560
And they're well within our needs and they have been a good idea.

2307
03:16:14,260 --> 03:16:19,040
And just that we need to be careful because we do have this piano tax that goes up and down.

2308
03:16:19,220 --> 03:16:29,880
And for many years, so part of the history is that some of the, some years we're relying on one time

2309
03:16:29,880 --> 03:16:33,000
money to help pay salaries, which is not a good idea.

2310
03:16:33,240 --> 03:16:39,760
So, we've worked very hard to get to a point where we're not doing that and we don't want

2311
03:16:39,760 --> 03:16:43,180
to go back to it again, so that's why the cautionary too.

2312
03:16:44,940 --> 03:16:52,540
But meanwhile, I think we need to really look at how we do bring businesses in, how we have

2313
03:16:53,120 --> 03:16:58,980
a lot of work that's been done by the Brownfields group to try to analyze properties and try to

2314
03:16:58,980 --> 03:17:28,960
properties back into reuse, we obviously have properties that are right for development that just haven't come in and so if we could focus both on developing a comprehensive plan and working on our economy generally but also work on specific development plans and concept plans wherever that wherever that can be a priority that would help us in many ways to provide jobs that would help us to increase our tax base.

2315
03:17:29,820 --> 03:17:34,800
that's just what Morgan Town at this point needs to work on.

2316
03:17:42,320 --> 03:17:57,960
We also have in the past, when we're talking about this, we do have someone in the tax office that works on tax collection and hard to collect areas and just making sure that people aren't compliance with their tax collection.

2317
03:17:58,360 --> 03:18:00,660
Is that something that continues?

2318
03:18:00,660 --> 03:18:01,400
Yes.

2319
03:18:02,080 --> 03:18:18,060
And so what is that person if you don't mind in the middle of a budget discussion if you wouldn't mind just refreshing us kind of what they're working on now and what they might be working on in the next year and you may not that's deciding the budget conversation but it certainly is part of the budget conversation.

2320
03:18:18,060 --> 03:18:26,160
Yeah, we have Denise Stephan Easy that is our B&O construction.

2321
03:18:26,420 --> 03:18:34,540
She follows the large projects very closely and I attribute a lot of our stronger collections

2322
03:18:34,540 --> 03:18:41,740
over the past two years, over the last year specifically to her efforts.

2323
03:18:41,740 --> 03:18:50,940
She's developed some key relationships with the purchasing department at WVU, which as you know has a lot of the major projects going on.

2324
03:18:51,980 --> 03:18:58,480
She gets contracts for these projects, follows up with the subs.

2325
03:18:59,060 --> 03:19:08,400
She's developed relationships with the contractors who then do work for her collecting from subcontractors.

2326
03:19:08,400 --> 03:19:11,980
So, she's done an excellent job on the B&O construction side.

2327
03:19:13,940 --> 03:19:23,360
As you know, from my memo recently, we had our tax auditor that resigned and took a job

2328
03:19:23,360 --> 03:19:25,320
at a local bank.

2329
03:19:26,500 --> 03:19:36,000
What Denise has approached me, we're actually going to start utilizing her in those to

2330
03:19:36,000 --> 03:19:42,580
take on some of that tax compliance auditing function for us and sort of

2331
03:19:42,580 --> 03:19:48,540
restructure the department based on what I'm seeing and what my staff is

2332
03:19:48,540 --> 03:19:54,480
capable of right now. I think she's an excellent person for the role and have

2333
03:19:54,480 --> 03:19:59,220
a lot of confidence in what she's doing for us down there. Great.

2334
03:20:01,540 --> 03:20:03,160
Then we

2335
03:20:03,160 --> 03:20:10,500
We haven't the past worked on grants in grant writing, but we haven't done it to a consistent level.

2336
03:20:10,680 --> 03:20:17,700
And that's maybe something else that we could do as far as enhancing our revenue side is and would

2337
03:20:17,700 --> 03:20:22,000
be a way that I would see would be appropriate to spend city funds on developing.

2338
03:20:22,280 --> 03:20:26,700
We were trying to hire grant writer and I don't know where that is right now, but-

2339
03:20:26,700 --> 03:20:27,660
It's included in the budget.

2340
03:20:27,660 --> 03:20:34,500
And so it's been included in the budget, but we have to figure out how to get it, get it in operation.

2341
03:20:34,740 --> 03:20:40,580
And since you've only been here for a short time, this is not necessary to approve, I mean, to have a person in place tomorrow,

2342
03:20:40,580 --> 03:20:44,460
but it seems as though that would really help our revenue side, as if we had.

2343
03:20:44,980 --> 03:20:52,160
And we have people that have even kind of complained that we have not applied for grants, you know, funders that have said, where are your grants?

2344
03:20:52,580 --> 03:20:56,000
So that's a good problem to have.

2345
03:20:56,640 --> 03:21:01,560
Well, particularly in light of, you know, speaking of recent retirements with the community

2346
03:21:01,560 --> 03:21:08,140
development director, Mr. Bat, who's since left and so that's going to be a gradual transition.

2347
03:21:08,140 --> 03:21:13,420
You know, you'll hear about the CDBG program, you know, in the coming months, but what our

2348
03:21:13,420 --> 03:21:22,220
hope is is that we could combine that the whole process of administering the CDBG and then

2349
03:21:22,220 --> 03:21:29,260
lump that in with the grant writer because they truly are interrelated so you may not see that

2350
03:21:29,260 --> 03:21:35,040
immediately but I think over reasonable amount of time and you know the conversation with Mr.

2351
03:21:35,180 --> 03:21:41,260
Fletcher about that earlier today's matter fact and so but it's you know we have a number of

2352
03:21:41,260 --> 03:21:49,580
positions that we're recruiting but definitely a priority and you know you know yes this question

2353
03:21:49,580 --> 03:21:54,660
But, you know, another one that's right up there is the HR function that's very, very

2354
03:21:54,660 --> 03:21:57,540
critical because I need to recruit the recruiter.

2355
03:21:58,100 --> 03:21:59,780
So, you know, we can get into the positions.

2356
03:21:59,780 --> 03:22:01,260
Yes, we can get into the positions.

2357
03:22:01,520 --> 03:22:02,760
We absolutely do.

2358
03:22:03,160 --> 03:22:03,780
Yeah, so.

2359
03:22:04,020 --> 03:22:07,980
And we have some retired people that are, well, more people that will be retiring that.

2360
03:22:08,700 --> 03:22:09,620
Oh, for sure.

2361
03:22:09,840 --> 03:22:15,200
So, that's, you know, if you want to talk about the things that keep me up at night, that's

2362
03:22:15,200 --> 03:22:26,020
That's what's weighed on my mind of knowing that, you know, what the projection is of individuals leaving and being able to keep up with, I mean, that's a significant amount of our workforce.

2363
03:22:26,300 --> 03:22:32,640
And so for our HR manager, they'll be ramping up in high recruitment mode, so.

2364
03:22:34,200 --> 03:23:02,220
And then opportunities for sharing equipment, I know, I think Bow Park was talking about not having a stump grinder and the city may be lent to stump grinder and some different examples of sharing of equipment and as we acquire more equipment, there may be possibility of doing more sharing with other organizations that might have some equipment that we need that doesn't get used every day.

2365
03:23:02,220 --> 03:23:04,840
but could be shared.

2366
03:23:06,360 --> 03:23:08,580
And then I really appreciate the idea of projections.

2367
03:23:09,420 --> 03:23:13,680
I think that it would be very nice to be looking.

2368
03:23:14,400 --> 03:23:16,860
We have all of the years prior, but it would be nice

2369
03:23:16,860 --> 03:23:20,500
to be looking out at some of the expectations.

2370
03:23:20,840 --> 03:23:21,220
Oh, exactly.

2371
03:23:21,940 --> 03:23:24,720
So based on the indicators and things like that,

2372
03:23:26,980 --> 03:23:30,020
projections that frequently, the kind

2373
03:23:30,020 --> 03:23:36,200
of a certain, you know, from an overall business perspective, but we can put that into context

2374
03:23:36,200 --> 03:23:40,800
and be able to, you know, say what direction that we're heading.

2375
03:23:41,100 --> 03:23:44,540
So, you know, what we want to avoid is being in a reaction mode.

2376
03:23:44,800 --> 03:23:49,380
So if we see something that's coming, then we need to get our house in order to be able

2377
03:23:49,380 --> 03:23:56,060
to prepare for that, whether it be changing our business practices or, you know, as we realize

2378
03:23:56,060 --> 03:24:00,180
that there's in that case, if we have to go through a reduction of force,

2379
03:24:00,480 --> 03:24:05,040
that if we anticipate there's retirements, then we just do that through attrition.

2380
03:24:05,300 --> 03:24:10,240
And so, you know, kind of gradually bring the work force down, but, yes,

2381
03:24:10,500 --> 03:24:14,460
we need to be looking at least minimum two, three years out.

2382
03:24:16,400 --> 03:24:20,200
So then as you're thinking and this may or may not be related to budget,

2383
03:24:20,420 --> 03:24:22,540
but as you're, it is related to budget, perhaps.

2384
03:24:22,540 --> 03:24:29,220
But thinking about who the primary contact is at the city when somebody wants to develop a business.

2385
03:24:30,240 --> 03:24:36,920
And how that works through city government would be, we've had some models before and

2386
03:24:36,920 --> 03:24:41,820
discussion before about how to get your permits and whether we have a one stop shop or not.

2387
03:24:41,920 --> 03:24:48,300
And I know that there's some talk about efficiencies, but I think if we could highlight that path as it's being developed.

2388
03:24:48,300 --> 03:24:56,900
and figure out ways to, without violating our own ethics,

2389
03:24:57,700 --> 03:25:02,780
making sure that you're working through how business comes

2390
03:25:02,780 --> 03:25:04,780
to Morgan Towne and being very friendly about that.

2391
03:25:04,920 --> 03:25:05,700
Oh, absolutely.

2392
03:25:05,960 --> 03:25:07,660
That's a strong interest of mine.

2393
03:25:09,140 --> 03:25:11,060
Well, we're right for that right now.

2394
03:25:11,460 --> 03:25:12,680
So we've got lots of empty lots.

2395
03:25:13,160 --> 03:25:14,280
So all right, that's it.

2396
03:25:14,600 --> 03:25:14,900
Thank you.

2397
03:25:15,880 --> 03:25:17,440
Anything else from anybody else?

2398
03:25:18,980 --> 03:25:19,400
No?

2399
03:25:21,380 --> 03:25:23,280
I was just waiting.

2400
03:25:23,660 --> 03:25:23,900
Thanks.

2401
03:25:24,540 --> 03:25:28,020
I had several questions, but you're asking some of them already, so it's good.

2402
03:25:30,140 --> 03:25:32,840
Constable Gatz, do you have a question?

2403
03:25:33,100 --> 03:25:33,560
Oh, yes.

2404
03:25:33,700 --> 03:25:33,860
Pacific?

2405
03:25:34,200 --> 03:25:37,960
Oh, I did have some specific questions, but I thought we'd get to them anyway.

2406
03:25:38,480 --> 03:25:43,400
We have all these agency requests, and I wondered how that was going to be handled.

2407
03:25:43,400 --> 03:25:44,360
The

2408
03:25:47,240 --> 03:25:56,320
way the budget is billed, currently, I looked at past the past few years what we've

2409
03:25:56,320 --> 03:26:05,520
done as a city and basically applied the same amount, realizing that we're going into

2410
03:26:05,520 --> 03:26:12,640
a tighter year for sure with regard to capital escrow funding available because the projects

2411
03:26:12,640 --> 03:26:15,220
index aren't anticipated.

2412
03:26:16,460 --> 03:26:24,360
So keeping agencies that have been there steady at their past rate, knowing

2413
03:26:24,360 --> 03:26:30,820
prices and no additional agency requests were added to the preliminary budget.

2414
03:26:31,780 --> 03:26:33,980
Can I ask more questions along that line?

2415
03:26:34,220 --> 03:26:34,360
Yes.

2416
03:26:36,160 --> 03:26:42,080
There's some things that are part of our function.

2417
03:26:42,080 --> 03:26:46,780
part of our charter, part of our ordinances, such as

2418
03:26:46,780 --> 03:26:53,080
tree board, we need the tree board provides the urban

2419
03:26:53,080 --> 03:26:58,760
forest or position with their work, and so a case like

2420
03:26:58,760 --> 03:27:03,880
that, using that, the urban landscape commission, the

2421
03:27:04,680 --> 03:27:08,660
groups like that are part of our function, and so those

2422
03:27:08,660 --> 03:27:11,900
groups that are part of our historic landmark commission

2423
03:27:11,900 --> 03:27:15,340
They fulfill a mandate that's from the state.

2424
03:27:15,820 --> 03:27:17,980
I'm just off the top of my head.

2425
03:27:18,160 --> 03:27:24,780
These are groups that are part of our function where volunteers perform a role that's mandated

2426
03:27:24,780 --> 03:27:29,420
either by our state, our ordinances or something outside of our employees.

2427
03:27:29,760 --> 03:27:35,800
But in addition to their volunteer labor, which is very valuable, they need equipment, supplies,

2428
03:27:36,400 --> 03:27:37,520
other kinds of things.

2429
03:27:37,520 --> 03:27:45,900
and I would like to see those maintained prior to the agency request because these are part of our mandate.

2430
03:27:47,280 --> 03:27:54,000
And so I'd like to see those sometimes increased to maximize, because in a way it's like a grant.

2431
03:27:54,740 --> 03:28:00,520
These people provide free services and we just provide the equipment as the match.

2432
03:28:00,520 --> 03:28:10,560
And the match is very miniscule in most of these cases to the amount of labor savings are huge.

2433
03:28:11,300 --> 03:28:14,480
And so I'd like to see them put ahead of the agency requests.

2434
03:28:15,080 --> 03:28:26,400
Also some of the agency requests I noted were from groups we gave seed money to expecting them to move on and acquire their own funding.

2435
03:28:26,400 --> 03:28:36,480
So I just have some questions about that, and also the agency and then there's some agencies in there that are outside our central mission.

2436
03:28:36,840 --> 03:28:42,420
Our central mission is to provide inside the city limits for the people of Morgantown.

2437
03:28:43,260 --> 03:28:52,360
And so I would like to look at these things in these contacts if possible, and I don't know how to do that.

2438
03:28:52,360 --> 03:29:05,780
Well, I would offer this as a response, if there's a consensus among you all that you would like from the staff perspective for us to take a closer look, we can come back with a recommendation.

2439
03:29:07,680 --> 03:29:12,780
This is one area that I wish that I had the lecture a little bit more time.

2440
03:29:12,780 --> 03:29:13,300
I know.

2441
03:29:13,760 --> 03:29:23,640
And so, Jim, I concur with his methodology the way that he went about that, you know, it makes sense.

2442
03:29:23,880 --> 03:29:30,540
However, with that being said, if there's something that we need to fine tune where there's general parameters,

2443
03:29:30,820 --> 03:29:39,620
I don't have a problem of where we sharpen our pencil and take a look at and bring back, you know, an amendment to that area.

2444
03:29:39,620 --> 03:29:44,560
Because as far as I know, these agencies, they have not been notified what has been recommended.

2445
03:29:44,940 --> 03:29:48,940
So at this point, it's not dollars that they're counting on.

2446
03:29:49,200 --> 03:29:54,040
And they put this request in a good faith effort that we will do the best that we can.

2447
03:29:54,160 --> 03:29:57,560
But there's no promises in that regard.

2448
03:29:58,620 --> 03:29:59,920
So that's-

2449
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:05,260
That would not surprise me if we do do some tweaking that will probably be in that area.

2450
03:30:05,640 --> 03:30:29,400
So what do you think about those agency requests are between ¼ and ¼ million, and we're talking about a, decreasing circumstance from 38 to 33. So how do we do this? That would be one area. I'm not disagreeing with you at all. I'm just saying. And so, but on the other hand, we wouldn't want to be decreasing.

2451
03:30:29,400 --> 03:30:45,820
In the tree board budget, for example, their budget would include the facts that all these trees were affected by the animal ash for, for example, and they need to be replaced and so that's the, and that's part of our mandate.

2452
03:30:46,200 --> 03:30:55,260
So I'm not disagreeing, I just would like to encourage you to sharpen your pencils in these areas, and I'm sure that there's counselors who would know more about it.

2453
03:30:55,260 --> 03:30:59,800
But I only know about the four, five or six boards that I'm involved with.

2454
03:31:00,960 --> 03:31:02,420
So I just want to mention that.

2455
03:31:05,330 --> 03:31:06,410
Additional comments?

2456
03:31:08,190 --> 03:31:09,010
I'm there.

2457
03:31:10,010 --> 03:31:17,830
A couple of years ago, we increased the fire service fee, two and a half percent.

2458
03:31:18,270 --> 03:31:19,690
I think that was correct.

2459
03:31:19,690 --> 03:31:31,300
And at that time, I think that brought us up to maybe 70% of where we should be.

2460
03:31:33,420 --> 03:31:46,060
And I guess my concern is are we keeping up with inflation or are we keeping up with that fee?

2461
03:31:46,060 --> 03:31:49,560
Is it something that we should think about?

2462
03:31:50,200 --> 03:31:58,000
I know there was a levy past county levy past for fire departments which the city of

2463
03:31:58,000 --> 03:32:05,260
Morgantown, I don't believe gets any of that money and I'm just concerned about our fire

2464
03:32:05,260 --> 03:32:10,560
department that we're keeping the funding, they are keeping the base going up.

2465
03:32:10,560 --> 03:32:17,620
So, I didn't know if there was any thought into that or any comments on that or I don't

2466
03:32:17,620 --> 03:32:24,240
know how other Councillors feel about, you know, maybe increasing that a little bit this

2467
03:32:24,240 --> 03:32:26,900
year, too, or increasing the fire fee.

2468
03:32:29,970 --> 03:32:32,690
I didn't give any consideration to that.

2469
03:32:32,690 --> 03:32:42,820
I will tell you specifically with the fire fee for tax exempt organizations with the

2470
03:32:42,820 --> 03:32:49,160
alpha-john being from the fire department we've been able to do a lot of

2471
03:32:49,160 --> 03:33:01,120
measurements and there's been significant square footage finding in that

2472
03:33:01,120 --> 03:33:07,940
category and you can see from the chart that we are seeing growth there. We budgeted an

2473
03:33:07,940 --> 03:33:16,160
additional $200,000 in fire fees for next year. Okay. That's a conservative number based on

2474
03:33:16,160 --> 03:33:28,800
what what the fire cheapest is sharing with me but we're we're basing it taking steps. Right. And

2475
03:33:28,800 --> 03:33:31,760
and that process is going to continue.

2476
03:33:32,780 --> 03:33:35,060
He's going to be measuring.

2477
03:33:35,560 --> 03:33:36,360
He's going to continue.

2478
03:33:36,500 --> 03:33:36,860
That's good.

2479
03:33:37,680 --> 03:33:40,580
I just have a lot of large buildings being built in the city.

2480
03:33:41,400 --> 03:33:41,960
Absolutely.

2481
03:33:42,980 --> 03:33:45,440
Well, I'm just kind of looking there in the future

2482
03:33:45,440 --> 03:33:47,880
to make sure we have ourselves covered.

2483
03:33:49,010 --> 03:33:53,060
If I'm not mistaken, the high price is

2484
03:33:53,490 --> 03:33:56,440
covered at 60% of our cost, approximately.

2485
03:33:58,730 --> 03:33:59,050
Yes.

2486
03:33:59,050 --> 03:33:59,230
Yes.

2487
03:33:59,670 --> 03:33:59,910
Okay.

2488
03:34:00,410 --> 03:34:00,550
Yes.

2489
03:34:05,510 --> 03:34:14,430
On those lines that you mentioned, the levy is paid for by the residents or entities

2490
03:34:14,430 --> 03:34:22,210
in the city and those funds go to the county fire fee or the county fire department.

2491
03:34:22,210 --> 03:34:32,830
Is there a provision in the levy to request like fees for our departments or are various?

2492
03:34:34,730 --> 03:34:39,950
And I noticed that too that the library fee is the same in a library levy was passed

2493
03:34:39,950 --> 03:34:46,050
or we receiving any funds from the library levy or I know that previously we had been helping

2494
03:34:46,050 --> 03:34:47,650
aren't it still in other libraries?

2495
03:34:48,070 --> 03:34:51,050
How does all this levy money play into this budget?

2496
03:34:52,070 --> 03:34:54,850
Where is there any, or how does that work?

2497
03:34:56,250 --> 03:35:02,110
We are not receiving any fire related money from the levy.

2498
03:35:04,550 --> 03:35:05,170
The

2499
03:35:08,400 --> 03:35:15,920
library, the Morgan dump up with the library is receiving money from that, that's we support them.

2500
03:35:15,920 --> 03:35:25,380
And so we're not receiving that tax money, the actual library, which we received in those funds.

2501
03:35:26,340 --> 03:35:31,640
And then both are related, they're receiving the special heavy funds for the ice arena.

2502
03:35:36,160 --> 03:35:44,720
I just had one other question that I know that there was a meeting with the Hazel Rebe McQueen Foundation about the ample theater.

2503
03:35:44,720 --> 03:35:54,240
So, I just wondered if the $73,000 about Hazel Ruby McQueen Park, is that the amphitheater?

2504
03:35:55,100 --> 03:36:01,420
That's the study and correct the erosion issue that's taken place down there.

2505
03:36:01,840 --> 03:36:02,740
Okay, along the river?

2506
03:36:03,120 --> 03:36:03,240
Yes.

2507
03:36:04,440 --> 03:36:05,760
The erosion?

2508
03:36:06,260 --> 03:36:06,420
Oh.

2509
03:36:07,860 --> 03:36:12,520
So, it was erosion not revamping the area or anything.

2510
03:36:12,520 --> 03:36:17,860
it was a revision. It was a engineering study. It's an engineering study and work associated

2511
03:36:17,860 --> 03:36:28,520
with that area. So as far as the page, page, page 2 of capital S curve. So as far as

2512
03:36:28,520 --> 03:36:36,360
like the amphitheater repair that was talked about, is there anything in the budget, I couldn't

2513
03:36:36,360 --> 03:36:38,940
find anything. Maybe I missed it.

2514
03:36:41,420 --> 03:36:52,000
I think they're not working on fixing it right now. I think they're

2515
03:36:52,840 --> 03:36:54,520
because I'd asked about that also.

2516
03:36:57,820 --> 03:37:02,640
It might be part of a request. It is not in the budget.

2517
03:37:02,640 --> 03:37:08,840
Okay. Okay. Confirm that. That's, tons like that. Along that line, that's part of the ongoing

2518
03:37:10,300 --> 03:37:16,900
situation with Bow Park is what is city, what is Bow Park, and then the ongoing thing with the

2519
03:37:21,020 --> 03:37:29,320
commission, I think, with WVU, the county, the city, Bow Park as to the programming. It seems as though

2520
03:37:29,320 --> 03:37:36,200
the city and Bow Parker paying a lion share of that and that's part of the negotiations

2521
03:37:36,200 --> 03:37:43,080
that we might need to address with Bow Parker and the new city manager. I don't, I just

2522
03:37:43,080 --> 03:37:43,920
know that it exists.

2523
03:37:47,280 --> 03:37:49,600
Any more budget information? Question?

2524
03:37:52,140 --> 03:37:52,660
Discussion?

2525
03:37:55,190 --> 03:37:55,770
Well thank you very

2526
03:37:55,770 --> 03:37:56,110
much.

2527
03:38:02,320 --> 03:38:15,650
I am not necessarily in favor of taking a sharp pencil to some of these

2528
03:38:15,650 --> 03:38:22,770
nonprofits. They're generally groups as our budget director explained that we

2529
03:38:22,770 --> 03:38:27,390
have promoted for many years. They're serving some of them are serving

2530
03:38:27,390 --> 03:38:36,470
functions that are almost quasi-governmental because they're providing for instance housing

2531
03:38:36,470 --> 03:38:45,400
for low income people in an area where we have very high housing costs. I think that

2532
03:38:45,400 --> 03:38:50,900
we've paired it, we've paired down the list over the years of who we give to at other points

2533
03:38:50,900 --> 03:38:57,700
when we had trouble with our budget. And since we haven't added anyone at this point

2534
03:38:57,700 --> 03:39:07,260
And I just didn't know what the consensus was for looking at the relatively short list and

2535
03:39:09,880 --> 03:39:12,580
not funding groups that we have normally funded.

2536
03:39:13,500 --> 03:39:18,560
If there was a specific group that somebody was concerned about and they wanted to mention

2537
03:39:18,560 --> 03:39:22,000
it to the manager, that would be fine with me.

2538
03:39:22,000 --> 03:39:31,900
But in general, most of those are in place for a reason that it's a strong community

2539
03:39:31,900 --> 03:39:37,000
need and it's serving some sort of almost quasi-governmental function, even though

2540
03:39:37,000 --> 03:39:41,100
it is not closely related and would be if we had poorer economic times that would

2541
03:39:41,100 --> 03:39:44,560
be where we would make a cut, but I'm not in favor of that at this point, so I'm just

2542
03:39:44,560 --> 03:39:48,280
I don't know what the consensus is before we send it back.

2543
03:39:48,280 --> 03:39:53,380
I think you find it, and I'll speak for all of us, that we're all in agreement with

2544
03:39:53,380 --> 03:39:58,440
that, that these are, they have proven to be very worthwhile organizations, but let me

2545
03:39:58,440 --> 03:39:59,360
call upon it too.

2546
03:39:59,520 --> 03:40:04,520
It never hurts to look to see perhaps where we're doing what we should do and what we might

2547
03:40:04,520 --> 03:40:11,540
do more, or what we might do differently, so I don't mean let's give a chance to our new

2548
03:40:11,540 --> 03:40:12,120
city magnitude.

2549
03:40:12,120 --> 03:40:30,060
But if council members who are familiar with an organization or two that they would like to see their budget modified and they could just convey that to the manager, that might help him in an early years, new here and has not has not become familiar with the organization.

2550
03:40:30,300 --> 03:40:39,500
So I would just say that if people have them to please pass them along so we're not just sort of sharpening to sharpen, but that we, if you have suggestions, you make them to him.

2551
03:40:42,280 --> 03:40:42,940
Madam Mayor.

2552
03:40:43,140 --> 03:40:48,560
I just want to say one last thing, how much I appreciate all your hard work and your

2553
03:40:48,560 --> 03:40:52,360
staff's work and the department heads and putting this document together.

2554
03:40:52,560 --> 03:40:53,080
It's well done.

2555
03:40:53,700 --> 03:40:53,860
Thank you.

2556
03:40:53,860 --> 03:40:54,120
Yes it is.

2557
03:40:55,820 --> 03:40:57,160
Thank you very much.

2558
03:40:57,420 --> 03:40:57,500
Okay.

2559
03:40:59,420 --> 03:41:02,020
Do I have a motion to adjourn?

2560
03:41:04,000 --> 03:41:04,260
Second.

2561
03:41:04,260 --> 03:41:04,780
Thank you.

2562
03:41:05,700 --> 03:41:06,420
You ready to jump?

2563
03:41:06,600 --> 03:41:06,780
All right.