1 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:14,600 Call the meeting of the Red Wing housing and redevelopment Authority. 2 00:00:17,020 --> 00:00:25,040 The mission of the Red Wing HRA is to provide quality, affordable, sustainable housing and community redevelopment programs. 3 00:00:26,020 --> 00:00:27,720 Could we stand for the pledge of allegiance? 4 00:00:56,220 --> 00:01:02,400 So, there are no absent commissioners, and we actually, with the new format, do a roll call. 5 00:01:05,580 --> 00:01:07,780 From my understanding, yes, we do. 6 00:01:09,410 --> 00:01:10,970 Do you want to call that green? 7 00:01:10,970 --> 00:01:16,070 I will. Yep. Yep. Alan Calhoun. I hear. Here. 8 00:01:18,410 --> 00:01:20,070 Here. Here. Look at. Here. 9 00:01:21,550 --> 00:01:27,550 Praso. Here. Jack. Here. Horsha. Here. 10 00:01:28,890 --> 00:01:29,790 Opponent. Here. 11 00:01:32,900 --> 00:01:37,780 Okay. Everybody's present. Can I have a motion to approve the agenda please. 12 00:01:37,780 --> 00:01:41,300 I can't think you could have a second. 13 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:42,540 I'll second. 14 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,640 Jackie, all in favor of CI. 15 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:46,600 Aye. 16 00:01:46,980 --> 00:01:47,380 Opposed? 17 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,440 This brings us to item five, which is public comments. 18 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,780 Are there any public comments? 19 00:01:59,220 --> 00:02:01,160 Are there any public comments? 20 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:03,580 Apparently not. 21 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,020 Okay, then we will move along to item 6. 22 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:09,920 And this is a consent agenda. 23 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,720 There is a roll call required. 24 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:19,200 Are there any council members that want to pull any item from the consent agenda? 25 00:02:22,900 --> 00:02:23,160 All right. 26 00:02:23,640 --> 00:02:27,820 Can I have a roll call for item 6 consent, please? 27 00:02:27,820 --> 00:02:33,460 Ellen Calhoun, I, with them. 28 00:02:34,660 --> 00:02:40,040 Zooker, I, Grasso, I, check. 29 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:42,560 Four shots? 30 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:43,480 Hi. 31 00:02:44,500 --> 00:02:48,010 Often, doesn't I? 32 00:02:48,730 --> 00:02:57,930 Two motions are passed, that brings us two items seven, and now it is resolution number 33 00:02:59,430 --> 00:03:06,130 2424-22, the 2023 COOLA, and I'll turn it over to Kurt to start the 34 00:03:06,130 --> 00:03:06,650 help please. 35 00:03:07,630 --> 00:03:13,590 Thank you Glenn, what you have in front of you is work that 36 00:03:13,590 --> 00:03:19,110 Korean has done on looking at what factor we should be using in our 2023 37 00:03:19,110 --> 00:03:25,890 budget as our cost of living adjustment abbreviated as COOLA. The report 38 00:03:25,890 --> 00:03:32,170 lines out for you, the methodology we use, the analysis that we went through, and then it 39 00:03:32,170 --> 00:03:37,690 also gives you a look at what past year's colonists have been, and you see they've 40 00:03:37,690 --> 00:03:43,390 range somewhere between two and three percent, and this year we're recommending and took 41 00:03:43,390 --> 00:03:49,430 to both the personnel and finance committee who both advanced these, the recommendation is a 42 00:03:49,430 --> 00:03:58,450 3% call for the 2023 budget and create an all let you add anything you wish to. 43 00:03:58,870 --> 00:04:03,870 Yeah, so we kind of talked with the city and the county. 44 00:04:04,370 --> 00:04:09,110 They are in contract negotiations so they didn't have anything at this time. 45 00:04:09,650 --> 00:04:18,310 They thought the 3% that we were considering at that time was probably reasonable and what they were looking at. 46 00:04:18,310 --> 00:04:25,470 Obviously, the union contracts are probably looking for a little bit more, but I don't know, I don't know the details, but other 47 00:04:25,470 --> 00:04:28,210 injuries that we've been in contact with. 48 00:04:28,870 --> 00:04:30,970 They're doing around about the same. 49 00:04:32,490 --> 00:04:34,850 There are some, you know what I said. 50 00:04:34,910 --> 00:04:41,490 We're all the work that we were told to kind of look into what we did the wage study. 51 00:04:41,490 --> 00:04:51,870 They're looking at over 4% for some, so I think the 3% is adequate considering the performance 52 00:04:51,870 --> 00:04:54,730 to brazos that we get through fear as well. 53 00:04:57,490 --> 00:04:58,690 Let's put all I have. 54 00:04:59,350 --> 00:04:59,790 All right. 55 00:05:00,980 --> 00:05:05,740 Is there any discussion amongst council members regarding this? 56 00:05:08,260 --> 00:05:08,780 Any questions? 57 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:17,100 Okay. Then I'd like to make motion to accept the resolution please. 58 00:05:17,100 --> 00:05:20,160 As you move, I'll second. 59 00:05:20,380 --> 00:05:21,580 Very good. 60 00:05:21,860 --> 00:05:24,460 Can we get a roll call please, Corinne? 61 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:25,420 Ellen, you all move? 62 00:05:25,840 --> 00:05:26,020 Aye. 63 00:05:26,980 --> 00:05:27,660 With them? 64 00:05:28,100 --> 00:05:28,300 Aye. 65 00:05:29,500 --> 00:05:29,920 Lucar? 66 00:05:30,620 --> 00:05:30,780 Aye. 67 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:32,420 Cross-o. 68 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:34,340 Jack? 69 00:05:34,980 --> 00:05:35,220 Aye. 70 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:36,880 Four shots? 71 00:05:37,500 --> 00:05:37,840 Aye. 72 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:39,220 Hoffman? 73 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:40,220 Aye. 74 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:42,460 I'm a nice motion carries. 75 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:44,140 Thank you. 76 00:05:44,420 --> 00:05:45,440 The resolution passed. 77 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:56,140 that brings us to item 7b resolution number 1425-22, approving the 2022 amended operating budget. 78 00:05:56,420 --> 00:05:59,180 Again, I'll hand this off the current if you can start us off. 79 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:00,340 Sure, thank you, Glenn. 80 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:08,180 Commissioners, what this is, is this is our current 2022 operating budget that we're still operating under. 81 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,300 It goes all the way through the end of December 2022. 82 00:06:12,060 --> 00:06:18,440 We do three things with the budget. We set a preliminary budget early on, bring that to you. 83 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,920 We then finalize that budget, bring it to you for your approval. 84 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,900 And then at this time in the year, we look at how we're doing against that budget, 85 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:31,860 and we make any adjustments that are needed. So this is an amendment to the final budget 86 00:06:31,860 --> 00:06:34,300 that has already been approved by you. 87 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,220 You know, would we absolutely need to do this? 88 00:06:38,220 --> 00:06:43,180 there's no HUD requirement to do this. We just think it's good business practice to share 89 00:06:43,180 --> 00:06:48,540 with you where we think the year is going to end up compared to where we thought it was going 90 00:06:48,540 --> 00:06:54,300 to be 18 months ago when we started this. We do share with you each month the financial so each 91 00:06:54,300 --> 00:06:59,960 month you're able to see what's happening and in this case, Carina's use seven of those reports 92 00:06:59,960 --> 00:07:06,100 of through July to make adjustments where we think adjustments are needed. I think primarily 93 00:07:06,100 --> 00:07:11,260 there are two headlines that I would call your attention to in the Malac carene fill in the details. 94 00:07:11,940 --> 00:07:18,180 But we've had a significant number of staff turnover recently during this fiscal year and so we've had unfilled 95 00:07:18,180 --> 00:07:25,360 positions so you'll see salaries and benefits a little lower simply because people haven't been in the positions. 96 00:07:27,100 --> 00:07:33,640 And then the other thing you'll see is that the cost of natural gas was significantly higher than we had anticipated. 97 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,220 that our usage hasn't really changed so much, 98 00:07:36,380 --> 00:07:38,220 so it's not a usage issue, it's a rate issue. 99 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,660 But those are the two biggest headlines. 100 00:07:41,860 --> 00:07:43,980 There are a myriad number of smaller adjustments 101 00:07:43,980 --> 00:07:47,480 made throughout, but Korean can share any of the details 102 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,640 that she thinks are germaning with us. 103 00:07:51,020 --> 00:07:54,980 So what I did as opposed to the, 104 00:07:54,980 --> 00:07:57,600 when you did the final or when you saw the final 105 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,800 and when we did the preliminary, 106 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:07,200 is I have a CFP combined in with public housing recently. I've kind of pulled that off so it's 107 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:13,820 separate so you can see the amount of funds that were awarded for our capital funds program separate 108 00:08:13,820 --> 00:08:20,660 from a Jordan tower one in the family units. So that's one of the big changes that is different 109 00:08:20,660 --> 00:08:29,780 on this one. Like Kurt said, the big issues are most definitely the salaries and benefits 110 00:08:29,780 --> 00:08:36,660 and the natural gas. There are some little things throughout the year like higher extermination 111 00:08:36,660 --> 00:08:46,450 costs due to bed bugs that we had over bats in one of our units. Little things like that. 112 00:08:49,560 --> 00:08:54,160 There's turnovers. The unit turnover that we did. You'll see that's a little bit different. 113 00:08:54,160 --> 00:09:02,160 That's just from staff assisting since we were so short and in maintenance, doing some additional work. 114 00:09:04,380 --> 00:09:11,080 App with the low utilization that they've had for some of the year. 115 00:09:11,900 --> 00:09:19,220 The app amount is reduced because of that, but now we're on an uptick and we are over, 116 00:09:19,220 --> 00:09:35,840 I wouldn't say, over utilizing, but we are higher utilizing some of it is higher than what is actually being dispersed to us, but we do have a pretty high HUD helm reserve, which is good that we're actually using that that is is to our benefit. 117 00:09:35,860 --> 00:09:47,600 Well, kind of keep an eye and make sure that we don't ease too much where we, you know, put ourselves in shortfall or anything, but it's good that we're getting people housed in the in the voucher programs. 118 00:09:49,220 --> 00:09:57,400 And then there is more detail now on the impact in the Women's Center that's pointed out 119 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,120 in brought more prominent. 120 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:10,460 Within general re-evalment and the women's shelter as well. Some of the other ones were ill-street, since we had some 121 00:10:10,460 --> 00:10:19,060 vacancy in that unit, and then also the twin homes since we're in the debate. How we're going to do that program, 122 00:10:19,300 --> 00:10:29,980 going slower, but for the most part things were pretty much on target. Besides a few little outliers here in 123 00:10:29,980 --> 00:10:31,800 Thank you, Chris. Questions? 124 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:38,600 Any comments or discussion from board members regarding this matter? 125 00:10:44,130 --> 00:10:47,630 I reviewed the documents that I got from the financial meeting. 126 00:10:47,830 --> 00:10:49,690 The adjustments are really minimal. 127 00:10:51,330 --> 00:10:54,730 And that'll all be reviewed with the annual audit again. 128 00:10:55,490 --> 00:10:57,850 I don't personally have any problems with it. 129 00:10:59,550 --> 00:11:02,050 And if there's no further discussion or questions, 130 00:11:02,050 --> 00:11:08,310 Then can I get a motion to accept the resolution, please? 131 00:11:08,350 --> 00:11:08,930 Thank you. 132 00:11:09,010 --> 00:11:10,030 Here I'll thank you. 133 00:11:10,250 --> 00:11:10,830 A second. 134 00:11:11,030 --> 00:11:11,730 A second. 135 00:11:12,510 --> 00:11:13,110 All right. 136 00:11:13,530 --> 00:11:15,150 Creen, could I get a roll call, please? 137 00:11:16,290 --> 00:11:17,110 Felling Kelvin. 138 00:11:17,610 --> 00:11:17,690 Aye. 139 00:11:18,750 --> 00:11:19,270 With him. 140 00:11:19,430 --> 00:11:19,770 Aye. 141 00:11:20,810 --> 00:11:21,350 Luke Hart. 142 00:11:23,290 --> 00:11:23,410 Rosa. 143 00:11:23,990 --> 00:11:24,170 Aye. 144 00:11:25,390 --> 00:11:25,590 Jack. 145 00:11:26,050 --> 00:11:26,370 Aye. 146 00:11:27,550 --> 00:11:28,050 Or Jack? 147 00:11:28,530 --> 00:11:28,790 Aye. 148 00:11:29,930 --> 00:11:30,210 Coffee. 149 00:11:32,230 --> 00:11:34,030 That's a nice motion carries. 150 00:11:34,230 --> 00:11:34,630 Okay. 151 00:11:34,670 --> 00:11:36,290 I'm here as a solution passed. 152 00:11:37,010 --> 00:11:42,110 That brings us to item eight, which is our communication items. 153 00:11:42,250 --> 00:11:45,590 And we'll start off with the Executive Directors report. 154 00:11:46,170 --> 00:11:47,850 Can you bring us up speed on that? 155 00:11:48,250 --> 00:11:48,670 Thank you. 156 00:11:49,490 --> 00:11:54,510 If you looked at my report, you know that the biggest area in the first area is staffing. 157 00:11:56,010 --> 00:11:59,030 And Eric Johnson, our new maintenance manager, is trying to 158 00:11:59,030 --> 00:12:05,250 as well, and Eric, maybe we could have you come to the podium and just say a few words and introduce yourself to the commission. 159 00:12:07,170 --> 00:12:15,950 Hello everyone, I'm Eric Johnson, and I'm the new maintenance supervisor, so I'm very happy to be here and say to see what we can get done. 160 00:12:21,190 --> 00:12:23,590 Welcome. Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome. 161 00:12:24,750 --> 00:12:28,110 Kurt is pretty good at mowing, so keep using him in that way. 162 00:12:29,950 --> 00:12:30,230 Right. 163 00:12:31,670 --> 00:12:32,770 It's a done quick. 164 00:12:33,350 --> 00:12:35,690 And I'm the one they usually call trouble. 165 00:12:36,050 --> 00:12:39,850 I take care of all the garden beds and everything outside. 166 00:12:40,250 --> 00:12:43,930 And if you need to know anything, you come to me first. 167 00:12:45,130 --> 00:12:45,970 The theme is Jackie. 168 00:12:46,730 --> 00:12:47,610 Jackie, okay. 169 00:12:47,610 --> 00:12:49,610 It sounds good. 170 00:12:49,970 --> 00:12:51,290 I'd have you part of the team. 171 00:12:52,010 --> 00:12:54,830 I think that new blood's always a good thing. 172 00:12:55,290 --> 00:12:56,530 Paul did an excellent job. 173 00:12:57,370 --> 00:13:01,390 But a new perspective and a new way of doing things is always welcome. 174 00:13:02,210 --> 00:13:05,970 And I wish you the best with your new job. 175 00:13:06,390 --> 00:13:07,330 Thank you very much. 176 00:13:07,710 --> 00:13:07,850 Welcome. 177 00:13:08,070 --> 00:13:08,790 Nice meeting everyone. 178 00:13:09,210 --> 00:13:09,230 Thank you. 179 00:13:10,750 --> 00:13:12,330 So in addition to Eric, 180 00:13:12,330 --> 00:13:18,770 we have on a bass is started her position with us back in mid September just after our last meeting. 181 00:13:19,010 --> 00:13:26,830 She's our section eight housing managers. She's there with us now in training in and part of the team. 182 00:13:27,610 --> 00:13:35,690 Eric started a couple weeks ago and then Steven Gregory another maintenance technician started with us just yesterday. 183 00:13:35,690 --> 00:13:45,750 So, we are now back to three people in maintenance looking for a fourth person that has yet to be found and stuff, but we're 184 00:13:45,750 --> 00:13:51,590 you know much better place in terms of redundancy and capacity in maintenance right now. 185 00:13:52,090 --> 00:13:59,990 And then finally, Ryan Schultz will join us next Monday in the role as finance assistant or the new Kim. 186 00:13:59,990 --> 00:14:10,030 She starts next week and joins us from Good Hewan Olmsted County where she did financial assistance programs and things like that. 187 00:14:10,750 --> 00:14:15,990 So we're getting people back in the seats and now it's really incumbent on us to onboard them. 188 00:14:16,870 --> 00:14:22,110 Welcome them into our work area in the culture and train them up on what they need to know. 189 00:14:22,110 --> 00:14:28,770 that will continue for many months, you know, a lot of our programs, it's beneficial to 190 00:14:28,770 --> 00:14:33,010 have a year cycle go by so that you're exposed to all the things that are cyclical, 191 00:14:34,270 --> 00:14:37,350 and obviously you can't rush that, it just comes as it comes. 192 00:14:37,970 --> 00:14:46,230 But we're making progress, and it's really hard to see good people choose to join us 193 00:14:46,230 --> 00:14:49,350 and bring their time and talents to us at the HRA. 194 00:14:50,490 --> 00:14:53,430 I also attended a Southeast Housing Bus Tour. 195 00:14:53,630 --> 00:14:57,070 This was during the Jordan Tower Open House, 196 00:14:57,310 --> 00:14:59,970 and it was a bit of a conflict, but I really wanted to see. 197 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:10,440 What others in our area are doing to sort of tackle the same issue that we've got, which is a lack of supply of just about every kind of housing, and then especially affordable housing. 198 00:15:11,180 --> 00:15:17,760 So we convened in Rochester and got on our coach bus and we toured Pine Island, Northfield and Kassen. 199 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:34,180 And all the communities are looking to add housing of all types, they've added some home ownership units and affordable rental units with a variety of partners and three rivers and Leah was involved in all three communities. 200 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:41,760 So I'm just reaffirmed for me the great partner that we have in three rivers and the good work they do. 201 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:50,300 You know, it was interesting that there really is no magic bullet, towns that are working on keeping new ownership units affordable. 202 00:15:51,340 --> 00:15:57,960 They're doing it with smaller lots, narrower lots, they're doing it with houses that don't have a basement. 203 00:15:58,860 --> 00:16:07,260 And what they're finding in all three communities that are doing that, they're getting snapped up as soon as they're even begun by seniors. 204 00:16:07,260 --> 00:16:13,680 are looking to come out of a house and shed all the extra room and responsibility and upkeep 205 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:19,760 and yard care and they really just they can't build them fast enough so it's sort of interesting. 206 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:26,060 Along that line, I went to a separate event up in New Brighton. 207 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:31,700 It's put on by the St. Paul area of realtors and this was focused more on accessory dwelling units 208 00:16:31,700 --> 00:16:36,920 are tiny homes and the idea is, you know, these can be added to an existing lot where 209 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:41,120 permitted and they provide a housing option, you know, sometimes referred to as mother 210 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:47,760 and lost weeds or or what have you. But it was a chance to see where they're made and see 211 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:53,720 three of their models and talk to the builder, see how they're being deployed. It was pretty 212 00:16:53,720 --> 00:17:04,620 interesting. I was intrigued by the notion of four of these units, put in common and connected with a 213 00:17:04,620 --> 00:17:10,180 common area, another structure that what house things like laundry and storage and some shared 214 00:17:10,180 --> 00:17:16,680 community types of things, and then they put four of these in a group and then they group these 215 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:23,440 groups together. And they're doing it a lot with housing for veterans. And so I was talking with 216 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,800 the fellow who runs the factory there, 217 00:17:25,820 --> 00:17:28,800 and I was curious about price and things like that. 218 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,060 And right now, they're producing their units 219 00:17:33,060 --> 00:17:36,000 at a cost of about $160,000. 220 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,120 That's exclusive of land and things like that. 221 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,740 So even small structures are expensive, right? 222 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:43,900 Is that a monogular home? 223 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:49,280 It's a 16 by 24 unit that has a separate bathroom, 224 00:17:49,660 --> 00:17:52,460 a kitchen area, and then kind of a combined living, 225 00:17:52,460 --> 00:17:57,820 dining area. It's a square footage, do you know what it would be? 226 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:02,960 Hard square footage. I want to say, I would like to do math quickly, 227 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:09,500 60 by 24. I don't know. I can't do that fast in my head. 228 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:14,780 I'm kind of like 400 square feet. I mean, they're both kind of like 20. Yeah, yeah. 229 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:19,940 And so the intriguing thing to me was that the Veterans Administration is 230 00:18:19,940 --> 00:18:26,160 purchasing these and deploying them in locations where they have a shortage of housing for veterans, 231 00:18:26,420 --> 00:18:31,060 particularly homeless veterans. And it was interesting to see the construction techniques. 232 00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:36,640 It's all built to Minnesota weather standards. It's all insulated panel construction, 233 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:43,920 very energy efficient, very airtight, all that sort of stuff. There's less than 500 234 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:53,100 it's quite a fee. Yeah. Yeah. It's 60,000. Yeah. No, we should get used to the fact that even 235 00:18:53,100 --> 00:19:00,040 small stuff costs that much to produce. So there's, you know, there's no 40 or 50,000 236 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:08,080 unit out there, really, to address it. But it's interesting to see the different things people 237 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:13,160 are trying and the ideas. I really, at first time, I even considered this concept of 238 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:19,820 them and then connecting them physically and giving, you know, some shared space in addition 239 00:19:19,820 --> 00:19:25,260 to your own dedicated space, there's space where you could, you know, wash your clothes, 240 00:19:25,340 --> 00:19:28,780 store your bike, right? Because that's one of the things that's like, where do I put all my stuff? 241 00:19:29,740 --> 00:19:34,020 And they buy the house. It's not a rental. I don't know that if they're buying them, 242 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:40,080 or if that's just an organization that's purchasing them. But that was the cost of the unit. 243 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:46,720 you get a yard. You get a common shared area, you know, kind of like a common interest community, 244 00:19:47,100 --> 00:19:53,340 kind of, you know, there's a lot of creative things being thought about and tried to tackle 245 00:19:53,340 --> 00:19:59,980 this notion of how do we provide, you know, what had used to call modest but adequate shelter to people, right? 246 00:20:00,210 --> 00:20:09,370 It's not large, it's not luxurious, but it's adequate, right? It's better than the streets, or it's better than a shelter, and it gives you some autonomy and things like that. 247 00:20:09,830 --> 00:20:25,670 So, it was interesting, you know, I'm just always sort of curious as to what other communities and what other places are doing, because, you know, you've got to have an open mind and, you know, sometimes you see stuff that you just don't think will work in your community and then other times you take nuggets away, where you go. 248 00:20:25,670 --> 00:20:29,130 Well, I got to remember that because that one's a good one, so that way. 249 00:20:29,130 --> 00:20:35,130 I see a lot that they have to take those storage containers and make them into. 250 00:20:36,550 --> 00:20:36,690 Yep. 251 00:20:36,950 --> 00:20:38,670 You see that as well. 252 00:20:39,030 --> 00:20:43,550 I would say that what I saw on New Brighton was a lot more attractive in the storage container. 253 00:20:44,350 --> 00:20:49,650 You know, it used residential materials and, you know, she holds them with sighting and windows and things like that. 254 00:20:49,650 --> 00:20:51,210 So a little bit better than that. 255 00:20:51,210 --> 00:20:55,750 But every community needs a spectrum of housing 256 00:20:55,750 --> 00:20:58,910 from a affordable to high end and everything 257 00:20:58,910 --> 00:21:00,890 between big, small. 258 00:21:01,790 --> 00:21:04,150 It was interesting in Cassin, where 259 00:21:04,150 --> 00:21:06,930 the city opened up this new subdivision 260 00:21:06,930 --> 00:21:08,570 and they did 50 foot lots. 261 00:21:09,910 --> 00:21:12,870 And the tortoise around, and of course, 262 00:21:12,870 --> 00:21:14,870 in every community, including Redway, 263 00:21:14,930 --> 00:21:16,450 there are whole sections of town 264 00:21:16,450 --> 00:21:19,130 that used to have 40 and 50 foot lots. 265 00:21:19,130 --> 00:21:26,510 and houses built on them, and families, large families raised in them, right, and we all came out okay. 266 00:21:27,130 --> 00:21:32,670 So the notion of getting smart with your land, because that's a high cost thing, getting smart with 267 00:21:32,670 --> 00:21:38,050 your density of utility connections and things like that, anything you can do to bring that 268 00:21:38,050 --> 00:21:44,670 cost down, helps it get built, and then helps it be sustainable and a lot more. Just reporting back 269 00:21:44,670 --> 00:21:51,010 on some of those. And then I'll close with two other things. Our twin home update. Good 270 00:21:51,010 --> 00:21:56,110 who habitat is interested in working with us. They have reached out to the family. The 271 00:21:56,110 --> 00:22:03,170 family is interested in working with them on becoming owners of their side of the twin home. 272 00:22:03,370 --> 00:22:08,030 They've made application and at this point they're waiting to hear from the selection committee 273 00:22:08,030 --> 00:22:13,470 because they open their application process I think October 1st. So they're waiting to hear 274 00:22:13,470 --> 00:22:17,570 from the committee whether they've been a proof for the program or not, it looks promising 275 00:22:17,570 --> 00:22:23,150 but we won't know until the final end, but I just had a conversation with Bob Hawley 276 00:22:23,150 --> 00:22:28,490 today that you know, if the family qualifies and wants to pursue forward, then we were talking 277 00:22:28,490 --> 00:22:32,670 about next steps and I said, you know, that's things like they would like an inspection of the 278 00:22:32,670 --> 00:22:40,610 property, which is prudent. We would have to talk about a sales price and a timeline and things 279 00:22:40,610 --> 00:22:46,230 like that. But so far it's moving forward. I was pleased to know that the family was interested 280 00:22:46,230 --> 00:22:53,030 in learning more about habitat when over met with Bob and he explained the program and they're 281 00:22:53,030 --> 00:23:00,210 fairly enthusiastic that, you know, wow, this could happen for us. That was good. And then 282 00:23:00,210 --> 00:23:06,790 our long talked about joint meeting with support authority. We've sort of zeroed in on a date 283 00:23:06,790 --> 00:23:10,170 in December, and I'd like to know your preference. 284 00:23:11,630 --> 00:23:13,690 December six is when the port would meet, 285 00:23:14,110 --> 00:23:15,530 and so we have a couple of options. 286 00:23:15,910 --> 00:23:19,830 We could move our regular December meeting to the sixth, 287 00:23:20,250 --> 00:23:22,030 meet from 330 to say 430, 288 00:23:22,210 --> 00:23:24,110 which is usually adequate for our business. 289 00:23:24,990 --> 00:23:28,930 Meet combined with the port from 430 to 530-ish, 290 00:23:29,030 --> 00:23:31,770 and then the port would convene their regular monthly meeting 291 00:23:31,770 --> 00:23:33,510 at 530, their normal time. 292 00:23:33,510 --> 00:23:45,270 So, we could move ours and do everything in one, or we could simply schedule an additional meeting for us on the 6th at 4th or 30th, that would be in combination with the court. 293 00:23:45,610 --> 00:23:49,810 And then we would have our regular meeting the week later on the 13th. 294 00:23:50,010 --> 00:23:51,290 What day of the week is the 6th? 295 00:23:51,390 --> 00:23:53,510 They're all Thursdays. 296 00:23:54,170 --> 00:23:54,730 Tuesdays. 297 00:23:55,110 --> 00:23:55,310 Okay. 298 00:23:58,650 --> 00:24:04,490 And so just looking for a little bit of feedback from you, would you prefer a separate 299 00:24:05,050 --> 00:24:05,570 meeting? 300 00:24:05,690 --> 00:24:11,430 Would you like to do a meeting on one Tuesday and come back and do the regular one on 13th 301 00:24:11,430 --> 00:24:16,770 or should we move it with enough time to notice everybody that we're moving ours to another 302 00:24:16,770 --> 00:24:17,610 date? 303 00:24:18,050 --> 00:24:23,070 So I don't think from a staff perspective, we have an opinion of whatever is most 304 00:24:23,070 --> 00:24:29,210 for all of you. What we're looking at for a time commitment to combine meeting. I think about 305 00:24:29,210 --> 00:24:35,690 an hour, give or take, you know, if it goes a little longer, and they're able to flex their 306 00:24:35,690 --> 00:24:44,150 starting time, you know, I think we go. What we're envisioning is, is, right, kind of a sharing 307 00:24:44,150 --> 00:24:49,370 of things that we're working on, things that we have on our horizon. They certainly are working 308 00:24:49,370 --> 00:24:55,110 not a lot of development things in and around town, we're working on some housing stuff with 309 00:24:55,110 --> 00:24:55,570 three brothers. 310 00:24:56,110 --> 00:24:59,790 It's just a matter of meeting everybody and kind of with their hearing. 311 00:25:00,270 --> 00:25:10,670 What the two bodies have in front of them, and then, you know, just kind of affirming our desire to continue to work together and move some of these things forward. 312 00:25:11,170 --> 00:25:12,050 The time is that meeting? 313 00:25:13,870 --> 00:25:24,170 They need their normal meeting time is 530, so we're thinking we need before that, say 430, or if we do a separate meeting, it could be 4. 314 00:25:24,870 --> 00:25:31,250 or we could do it, we could move our meeting up from 330 to 3 if that's agreeable to you. 315 00:25:31,490 --> 00:25:38,310 It really just depends on your appetite for or usually done by five o'clock game. 316 00:25:38,410 --> 00:25:41,030 We started at 330 and we were down at five o'clock, 317 00:25:41,030 --> 00:25:43,750 give us about a half hour window and then go into the next meeting. 318 00:25:44,370 --> 00:25:52,970 Well, I think the vision is we're either doing a combined meeting or that's sort of the topic. 319 00:25:52,970 --> 00:25:58,230 and then they, since they normally meet on the 6th and they would go into their regular meeting, 320 00:25:59,670 --> 00:26:05,470 it could work out if we stack them, we're typically 330 to 430, we can use to get through our 321 00:26:05,470 --> 00:26:14,130 stuff, hmm, quiet. And then 430 to 530, joint meeting, and then 530 to say 630, 322 00:26:14,450 --> 00:26:20,810 court meeting. So boom, boom, boom, if we're doing it that way, or if you don't mind having an 323 00:26:20,810 --> 00:26:32,310 additional meeting on the 6th and starting say at 4, go to 4 to 5, 30. That works. It just, it's really, works best for your sketches. 324 00:26:32,950 --> 00:26:42,810 I don't think so. I mean, I think you're certainly welcome to it. At that point, we would have had our joint discussion and 325 00:26:51,960 --> 00:27:05,440 We'll proceed with that basis then, and we'll notify everybody so that we get the public notified that we're meeting date to this date and time. 326 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:11,620 And then Korean and I will keep an eye on what's cooking on the December agenda, but the reason 327 00:27:11,620 --> 00:27:19,580 we didn't do it in November is we've got our 2023 budget for you at that point and we 328 00:27:19,580 --> 00:27:20,780 don't want that to be rushed. 329 00:27:22,420 --> 00:27:30,500 Okay, I will proceed to do the 6th and get our meeting scheduled before that. 330 00:27:30,500 --> 00:27:31,440 Thank you. 331 00:27:31,460 --> 00:27:32,580 It's all I have. 332 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,120 Any questions for Kurt? 333 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:36,580 I have one. 334 00:27:37,700 --> 00:27:44,280 So backing up to the tiny home deal, your last paragraph says that you understand the school 335 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,440 maybe that is that red wing? 336 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:47,740 That's red wing school. 337 00:27:48,300 --> 00:27:49,260 There's talk. 338 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:55,560 I haven't confirmed it with anyone at the school, but habitat is currently building a home 339 00:27:55,560 --> 00:28:00,480 out next to the high school and I think they got the land or purchased the land from 340 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:07,620 school. And as I understand that they want to sort of do a trade with habitat for another 341 00:28:07,620 --> 00:28:12,560 lot that they own out there because they'd like to have a couple of lots in their considering 342 00:28:15,660 --> 00:28:21,220 a number of tiny homes as a recruitment retention tool for new teachers. 343 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:29,140 Now whether or not that comes to fruition or not, I don't know. I think it'd be a 344 00:28:29,140 --> 00:28:33,620 wonderful opportunity because they think the idea is and the high schools trade 345 00:28:34,500 --> 00:28:39,920 classes and stuff would participate in the construction and you know it 346 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,380 could be a cool deal. 347 00:28:41,380 --> 00:28:42,020 Bill Bill. 348 00:28:42,580 --> 00:28:45,540 And when I have the high school students used to build up. 349 00:28:45,580 --> 00:28:46,940 Yep, did they still do that? 350 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,020 I don't know what they build a whole house. 351 00:28:49,020 --> 00:28:49,280 I don't know what they do. 352 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,900 That's where the college is today. 353 00:28:52,100 --> 00:28:52,480 Oh, so. 354 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:53,260 I've used to. 355 00:28:53,460 --> 00:28:55,500 College was our partner on the twin-oam. 356 00:28:56,900 --> 00:29:01,920 I don't think they have that program anymore, but I know the high school has, you know, 357 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,360 shop class and building trades and things like that. 358 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:11,200 So, you know, if that comes to fruition, I'm dying to see the first instance of it in red 359 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:16,680 wing and to see how it looks and how it's accepted by the community because if there's 360 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:26,640 good acceptance of it, you can imagine utilizing other pieces of land that are maybe challenging 361 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:31,580 for some other reason, but might be a perfect fit for two to three tiny holes. 362 00:29:33,500 --> 00:29:35,800 But somebody has to do it first, right? 363 00:29:35,980 --> 00:29:37,520 Somebody always has to be the first. 364 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,600 And if the school has a wherewithal to do it, 365 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,280 and they have a sort of a built-in audience to occupy these, 366 00:29:45,380 --> 00:29:46,760 I mean, when I first started teaching, 367 00:29:47,020 --> 00:29:48,620 I sure would have jumped at something like that. 368 00:29:49,380 --> 00:29:51,660 I had to find a roommate and double up in an apartment. 369 00:29:52,580 --> 00:29:53,660 All that sort of stuff. 370 00:29:54,740 --> 00:29:55,520 They're intriguing. 371 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:56,280 Yeah. 372 00:29:59,140 --> 00:29:59,960 Any other questions? 373 00:30:03,580 --> 00:30:15,060 So, a couple items of notes in the financial statements. You see the increase in public housing and that is due to the first payment that we received from the Ross grant. 374 00:30:15,500 --> 00:30:17,420 Social service grant. 375 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:28,040 Basically, I'm taking anything from there to kind of put in our vote of equal reserves for public housing just so we can kind of build them up. 376 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:33,500 So that it's sitting there, obviously, if I need to use it, I can pull it from there. 377 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:42,320 But kind of trying to build up reserve for public housing, so we don't find ourselves having any issues down the road with that. 378 00:30:43,500 --> 00:30:52,180 The decrease in the redevelopment is from allocating the $50,000 to the affordable housing trust fund. 379 00:30:52,180 --> 00:31:03,580 And then small cities is due to a loan pay off and the payable loan in the forgivable loan for a total of $42,000. 380 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,060 For other business, we're working well. 381 00:31:08,180 --> 00:31:12,920 I got answer back finally from Deed on the small cities. 382 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:22,160 I do not need to do any annual reporting of our small city funds just because we have figured it out that the funds that we have are all local funds. 383 00:31:23,900 --> 00:31:42,180 The program income funds from the grant that we did in 2014, there wasn't in excess of $35,000, so then it maintains as local funds for that as well for you to utilize those pretty quickly. 384 00:31:42,940 --> 00:31:49,140 Anyways, so I do not need to do any annual reporting on that and everything is all squared away. 385 00:31:49,140 --> 00:31:56,700 If, over the next two years, I end up getting $35,000 or more than I would need to do a report there. 386 00:31:57,940 --> 00:32:02,720 So, the annual report for the Ross Grant is due by the end of the month. 387 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:11,140 This did just start June 1st, but HUD's fiscal year ends September 30th. 388 00:32:11,860 --> 00:32:17,980 So, they're asking for everyone to do their annual report so that they can finalize everything. 389 00:32:18,540 --> 00:32:23,260 So we'll then again have to do it next May. 390 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,180 Another one to actually finish off our first full year. 391 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,740 So Jessica and I will be working on that. 392 00:32:29,900 --> 00:32:34,000 She'll have all the resident information that she'll need to submit. 393 00:32:34,540 --> 00:32:38,180 And then I will have to do the financial piece on what funds we did. 394 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:42,240 You will be between June 1st and September 30th. 395 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,320 Bridges will have some annual reporting do. 396 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:52,580 and then they'll be preparing to do a new grant cycle, I think by March, I think is when that's all 397 00:32:52,580 --> 00:32:58,380 due March of next year, so we'll have reporting for that that Jennifer and I will be working on. 398 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:04,920 And then as I mentioned last month, the home reporting that we did have an annual report is now 399 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:12,460 monthly. I've been working with someone from Minnesota Housing Finance Agency in 400 00:33:12,460 --> 00:33:18,520 it all squared away so as soon as I receive the financials from Hawkins Ash, then I'll input all the 401 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:25,580 information and send off to them at every month. Then busy onboarding new staff, getting them set up with 402 00:33:25,580 --> 00:33:32,280 benefits and in all the payroll selection so that's been obviously very time consuming all the new staff that 403 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:39,780 we have. And then I'm also working on the 2023 final budget that I'll be bringing to you next month. 404 00:33:40,500 --> 00:33:46,280 And then they have the personnel and finance committee summaries attached to my report as well. 405 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:47,740 And it's all I have. 406 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,040 Thank you. 407 00:33:51,660 --> 00:33:58,620 So, that brings us to housing and Jennifer's not here. 408 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:09,600 So the housing report for the month ending September, you can see our wait list is staying 409 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,960 a pretty steady and we're pulling people off, but people are applying so we're staying 410 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,720 more or less even a slight uptick. 411 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:24,840 Our occupancy rate in Jordan Tower 2 dipped a little bit, we had a number of moveouts in September 412 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:31,940 And so they're hitting us now. We've been a little delayed in turning those because that for a good portion of that time 413 00:34:31,940 --> 00:34:40,540 We had one maintenance person and so we've used more vendors to help with that and Korean alluded to that in the amended budget 414 00:34:41,180 --> 00:34:49,760 But we have folks lined up for most of those units, so I would expect that October you'll see an uptake there as well 415 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:56,260 and then on the family public housing units and market rate rentals that's one vacant unit that's a small number of 416 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:12,190 And so, even one vacant unit there, throws those down a little bit in the market rate unit is the other half of the twin arm that we're holding open at this point. 417 00:35:12,930 --> 00:35:20,190 Voucher program continues to re-play rewards of a lot of good work from Reagan and Lisa earlier in the year. 418 00:35:20,630 --> 00:35:28,790 We're utilizing almost all of our vouchers, we're spending all the half that HUD gives us and we're dipping into our HUD held reserves, which is great, 419 00:35:28,790 --> 00:35:32,830 because I don't like HUD to have too many of our reserves held in their hands. 420 00:35:33,390 --> 00:35:35,830 I would rather put them out on the street in our community. 421 00:35:36,670 --> 00:35:39,450 So we're going gangbusters there, and that's wonderful. 422 00:35:39,750 --> 00:35:45,090 We're having conversations with HUD on a monthly basis of how much we want to draw out of our HUD held reserves. 423 00:35:45,850 --> 00:35:48,230 And that's a positive thing in my opinion. 424 00:35:48,910 --> 00:35:52,870 And then the bridges program we're seeing a similar impact there. 425 00:35:52,870 --> 00:35:59,350 Utilization is up where, you know, we've got 14 of the 12 least so you say, how do you do that? 426 00:35:59,870 --> 00:36:04,370 Well, because for a long time we were underutilized there and so the grant money is available and we can 427 00:36:04,370 --> 00:36:11,190 least as many people as we can pay for and we have a fair amount of money available for their remainder of the grant period 428 00:36:11,190 --> 00:36:12,990 So we're flying there 429 00:36:12,990 --> 00:36:19,490 I will say some good news out of HUD recently is that you recall we asked you to 430 00:36:19,490 --> 00:36:27,170 to improve increasing our payment standard, going for a waiver from 110% to 120. 431 00:36:28,070 --> 00:36:34,210 That has played a big part of how our utilization is increased and we were a little worried 432 00:36:34,210 --> 00:36:38,750 because that was set to sunset at the end of this year but how does just announce that 433 00:36:38,750 --> 00:36:44,950 they're extending it for 2023 so we'll be applying for that again because that's money 434 00:36:44,950 --> 00:36:49,470 is what makes that program work and if you can pay a landlord what they're asking for 435 00:36:49,470 --> 00:36:55,330 market rent than people can find a place. If you can't pay them going right and you can't find a place. 436 00:36:56,430 --> 00:37:02,310 So that's positive news for us there. We're also seeing some progress on different 437 00:37:03,550 --> 00:37:09,990 projects. Our sidewalk project is near completion. The welders tell me that they might be out of 438 00:37:09,990 --> 00:37:19,450 there as soon as tomorrow, which would complete that portion of the project. They had a little bit of a 439 00:37:19,450 --> 00:37:21,850 And that's since sort of been worked out. 440 00:37:22,930 --> 00:37:25,770 The tunnel windows are all complete and in and look great. 441 00:37:25,770 --> 00:37:27,770 No more looking out through fog windows. 442 00:37:28,990 --> 00:37:31,670 That happened really quickly just a couple of weeks. 443 00:37:32,370 --> 00:37:35,170 We're almost done with our Jordan Tower one commentary updates. 444 00:37:35,370 --> 00:37:39,070 We just have some artwork and some nice cities to put up there. 445 00:37:39,210 --> 00:37:43,010 But our furniture arrived just in time for our open house. 446 00:37:43,450 --> 00:37:46,050 Our electrical project in Jordan Tower one 447 00:37:46,050 --> 00:37:54,210 we're working out a little bit of a snag with Minnesota housing back in 2019. I think the 448 00:37:54,210 --> 00:38:00,270 city gave us some small cities funds to do some ceiling of the exterior of Jordan Tower 1, 449 00:38:00,590 --> 00:38:07,590 which was wonderful. But at some point that got recorded instead of as a grant it got recorded 450 00:38:07,590 --> 00:38:13,670 as a loan and recorded against the property which is now entangling, closing on another pop loan 451 00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:17,530 from Minnesota housing they do not like to be in second position. 452 00:38:18,170 --> 00:38:22,710 So I had a chat with Kyle today in our meeting next week, we think it's a relatively 453 00:38:22,710 --> 00:38:27,950 simple fix on our end, it's an agreement between the city and us and there's no chance 454 00:38:27,950 --> 00:38:34,470 that we're foreclosing or selling the property, it's going to be owned and operated as affordable 455 00:38:34,470 --> 00:38:36,890 housing and perpetuity so that's fine. 456 00:38:37,290 --> 00:38:43,050 We had a great open house, I wish I could have attended but I was on the bus tour but Jennifer 457 00:38:43,050 --> 00:38:49,250 Jessica and others who attended said it went really well, very positive. The radio station 458 00:38:49,250 --> 00:38:56,030 had Jack called well there and I guess he was always quite good Evan and Glenn. Both spoke with him 459 00:38:56,670 --> 00:39:02,510 and as well as Rob, our maintenance guy who happens to be his neighbor. Rob walked into the room for 460 00:39:02,510 --> 00:39:09,850 some reason and said, hey, Rob, come on over here and so he sat down and they shot the breeze for a while. 461 00:39:09,850 --> 00:39:15,110 is quite entertaining. Luckily, last year I complained 462 00:39:15,110 --> 00:39:18,650 mightily at the increase of our property insurance from housing 463 00:39:18,650 --> 00:39:21,910 authority insurance, they may have 464 00:39:21,910 --> 00:39:25,650 modified us a little bit by giving us a $120,000 to fix 465 00:39:25,650 --> 00:39:29,390 some concrete at one of our public housing properties, so 466 00:39:29,390 --> 00:39:30,810 I like them a little better now. 467 00:39:31,130 --> 00:39:36,110 I don't think it's our rates, but 468 00:39:36,110 --> 00:39:39,610 essentially at Featherstone will be replacing some sidewalks 469 00:39:39,610 --> 00:39:44,730 steps that have heaved in our tripping hazards, and if possible, I'd like to redirect some 470 00:39:44,730 --> 00:39:49,630 of the funding from Featherstone and also see if we can accomplish some similar stuff 471 00:39:49,630 --> 00:39:54,490 at our dear run property. They're both public housing properties, both eligible, both need 472 00:39:54,490 --> 00:39:59,150 some sidewalk work to reduce tripping hazards and things like that. So that's positive. 473 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:05,580 And I've already spilled the beans on the payment standard waiver extension. So that's the housing report. 474 00:40:07,460 --> 00:40:17,420 Thank you. Quick question. In the past, we've done bus tours where we've gone around all the properties that the HR has. 475 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,920 That's something that we could look at doing again now that COVID's over. 476 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,500 Absolutely. Yeah. You know, 477 00:40:28,140 --> 00:40:30,900 what time frame have you typically done that spring summer? 478 00:40:30,900 --> 00:40:32,200 or is that a winter? 479 00:40:32,620 --> 00:40:32,980 I don't know. 480 00:40:33,060 --> 00:40:34,420 When was the last time we did that? 481 00:40:34,660 --> 00:40:35,080 Is it anyway? 482 00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:36,420 Clear, is that all I said? 483 00:40:36,700 --> 00:40:37,100 What's that? 484 00:40:37,240 --> 00:40:40,720 It was in 2019 and it was in the spring. 485 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:41,740 It was in the spring. 486 00:40:42,540 --> 00:40:44,380 It's just not been a while and unfortunately, 487 00:40:45,020 --> 00:40:47,020 the last time we did that, I couldn't attend 488 00:40:47,020 --> 00:40:49,680 for some reason and it's been a while for me 489 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,980 and it gives an opportunity to look at the projects 490 00:40:52,980 --> 00:40:55,300 that we discussed from month to month. 491 00:40:55,860 --> 00:40:58,740 And also, just give us a gentle view of everything 492 00:40:58,740 --> 00:41:00,880 that we've got on the table with our property. 493 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:07,240 I don't know, just thrown it out there, you mentioned you did a bus tour, and I thought they're kind of... 494 00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:09,920 Yeah, remind me, maybe we could look at it. 495 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:11,640 Absolutely, can. 496 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:19,840 It might be something, well, I don't know if January is very much for that. 497 00:41:21,220 --> 00:41:28,500 Probably more of a spring, summer thing, so that we can really disembark and spend some time outside and not be freezing or, you know, Russian. 498 00:41:29,820 --> 00:41:31,560 There's a lot to see, right? 499 00:41:31,660 --> 00:41:32,860 Some of our companies are in very different ways. 500 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,520 For first of all, they have snow on the ground, 501 00:41:34,660 --> 00:41:37,880 so we can actually see this amount or whatever that will happen. 502 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:38,460 Absolutely. 503 00:41:38,780 --> 00:41:40,740 Maybe something to just pencil in for the future. 504 00:41:40,980 --> 00:41:41,240 Yes. 505 00:41:41,900 --> 00:41:43,000 I think that's good idea. 506 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:43,780 Okay. 507 00:41:46,100 --> 00:41:49,020 All right, community redevelopment that brings us very 508 00:41:49,020 --> 00:41:50,000 back to Kurt Gumpier. 509 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:51,940 I'll be brief on this. 510 00:41:52,100 --> 00:41:53,960 Our small cities program funds. 511 00:41:55,260 --> 00:41:58,180 One of the people I was keen to meet on the bus tour 512 00:41:58,180 --> 00:42:04,320 was the new community development director for Sam Crow or southeast Minnesota Multicounning 513 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:11,320 HRA because they too are administrator of small cities funds in addition to Sita and there 514 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:17,900 is some capacity constraint at Sita so I was pleased to make a connection and meet the fellow 515 00:42:17,900 --> 00:42:27,520 he was the former city administrator from St. Charles. But we are soon to be in a position where 516 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:32,820 think we could submit a competitive application again now that we've clarified our program 517 00:42:32,820 --> 00:42:40,260 income versus local funds and have committed a great many of those we have three small 518 00:42:40,260 --> 00:42:46,740 cities loans yet to close. In a couple of cases they're being held up by the contractor being 519 00:42:46,740 --> 00:42:52,920 able to get the materials, but you know they're on their way that sort of thing. But our good work 520 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:59,740 there is going to position us to make an application sooner rather than later, so that's positive. 521 00:43:00,860 --> 00:43:06,000 Our formal housing trust fund, we in addition to what we awarded as part of the downtown 522 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:12,020 redevelopment challenge, there are still two people who own properties in our target area 523 00:43:12,020 --> 00:43:19,300 that are talking about coming forward. They'll get all warm and fuzzy and we'll have a conversation 524 00:43:19,300 --> 00:43:25,680 and they'll be up, yep, yep, I'll get that to you and then nothing for a while and so I remain in 525 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:32,040 contact with them both and just sort of say you know we have money and we're ready to consider 526 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:40,200 your application when you're ready to submit it so that's sitting out there. The reserves of course 527 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:47,860 will go down by $125,000 when we fund the Avanti project directly north of us here. 528 00:43:47,860 --> 00:44:02,340 If housing district number eight, if you've driven by out there, you notice that the last building is underway, they're digging and starting footings and that sort of stuff, so that will be the final phase of that tiff district. 529 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:11,880 That will be built out. We're still working with them to certify the last district and get us what we need so that we can enter and disperse their tiff payment to them. 530 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:19,620 But we figure since we've got about $100,000 of theirs that they'll soon or later pay attention to us and get us what we need. 531 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:26,700 And I can imagine that it's just chaotic and busy trying to get everything coordinated, but they will come around. 532 00:44:26,940 --> 00:44:28,180 We're going to check this out. 533 00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:32,640 It's the new senior building that's going just up there. 534 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,220 I don't know where in the park place. 535 00:44:35,060 --> 00:44:37,480 They've got to move like 13,000 took loads of dirt. 536 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,280 Yeah, it's a lot of stuff there. 537 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:47,560 three rivers in our tax credit development and will you project Leah has held I think at least one 538 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:54,400 and possibly two community information gathering meetings with different stakeholders in the community. 539 00:44:56,180 --> 00:44:59,720 I know she's still planning to get in front of the council yet this fall. 540 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:11,160 With an update and ask for some action perhaps so that they can be positioned to move forward on an application to image of a by July of next year. 541 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:24,140 And housing related meetings, I went to the neighborhood informational meeting that the stencil group, Nate stencil from the stencil group held at the library, concerning the former St. John site. 542 00:45:24,140 --> 00:45:31,640 they have that under contract and they previewed for the neighbors, what their intentions were. 543 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:39,580 Essentially, a four story, 90 to 100 issue unit apartment building, where the old hospital 544 00:45:39,580 --> 00:45:47,960 used to sit and then 16 count homes on more of the parking area that is closer to downtown. 545 00:45:49,300 --> 00:45:57,940 very mixed reactions, probably more negative than positive, which wasn't unanticipated, but I thought 546 00:45:57,940 --> 00:46:03,540 the Nate did a nice job of just, you know, being very transparent. This is what we're looking at. 547 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:11,200 This is what we're considering, want your feedback, won't always agree with your feedback, but still want to hear it, that sort of thing. 548 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:21,000 There's also a party that has the associated bank building under contract, which is a step forward from where we've been. 549 00:46:21,700 --> 00:46:35,220 I understand they're looking for limitarily at a concept that would be 28 to 30 rental units and then retail space on what's the former sort of lobby street level space there. 550 00:46:35,220 --> 00:46:41,800 Nothing firm, nothing, no hard to ask to the city or ourselves yet, but they do have it 551 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:46,960 under contract, which is step farther than we've been there as well. 552 00:46:47,900 --> 00:46:54,360 And then lastly, good Hugh County does a fall housing summit series and so Tammy Moyer from 553 00:46:54,360 --> 00:47:00,100 Semkran I did a presentation last week on the housing choice voucher program, just to sort 554 00:47:00,100 --> 00:47:05,140 of share information with smaller newer landlords about what the program is and the 555 00:47:05,140 --> 00:47:07,240 and if it's participate, things like that. 556 00:47:07,660 --> 00:47:10,020 And that's plus recorded and if you're interested, 557 00:47:11,060 --> 00:47:12,320 and knowing about Section 8, 558 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,940 you can listen to that on the County's EDA and say. 559 00:47:17,100 --> 00:47:19,720 This tensile group is at all market rate. 560 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,000 Stensile group would be all market rate. 561 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:26,960 Smaller units, studios, ones, twos, 562 00:47:27,780 --> 00:47:30,200 in the six to seven hundred square foot range 563 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:31,700 for the smaller units, 564 00:47:31,700 --> 00:47:37,500 I had about a $900 to $1,000 a month rent point. 565 00:47:38,100 --> 00:47:44,440 They've built similar buildings in communities around us, including Mancato and Rochester, 566 00:47:46,220 --> 00:47:53,120 and not only enough, the HRA and Hastings has given them, I think they're partnering with them 567 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:58,240 to enable a former lumber yard site in downtown Hastings and doing this neat thing. 568 00:47:58,240 --> 00:48:05,380 So, these regional development companies are waking up to Southeast Minnesota and some of these other communities besides 569 00:48:05,380 --> 00:48:12,140 the native and Rochester and sensing that there's opportunities that there's a pent-up demand for 570 00:48:12,140 --> 00:48:18,660 quality, affordable, or just market-rate housing, and which I think is encouraging, right? 571 00:48:18,700 --> 00:48:25,620 We always want to be able to ask about affordability and show them what we have in terms of resources. 572 00:48:25,620 --> 00:48:31,560 But, you know, even if we didn't get any, that's okay. Again, there's more housing. 573 00:48:32,540 --> 00:48:38,500 Every type makes more housing available for our section 8 holders and everybody else. 574 00:48:39,380 --> 00:48:43,320 So, freighter supply helps ease the imbalance between supply and demand. 575 00:48:44,300 --> 00:48:50,060 I have to say it since I've been on the HRA Board, I don't think I've ever seen more activity 576 00:48:50,060 --> 00:48:57,520 for housing than I have in the last year and currently it's pretty exciting and it's 577 00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:01,800 something that we've been hearing for a year. We need to tell them all of them. 578 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,040 And I'm getting answered. 579 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:11,040 I think the project at Caler Bartman did prove the market. 580 00:49:11,860 --> 00:49:15,900 I mean, it showed builders and developers and lenders 581 00:49:15,900 --> 00:49:18,640 that you can build that product in Red Wing. 582 00:49:18,980 --> 00:49:22,340 It's a viable financial, you know, it's worth the risk. 583 00:49:22,860 --> 00:49:26,240 And it's been received remarkably well. 584 00:49:27,220 --> 00:49:28,600 And so, you know, fingers crossed. 585 00:49:28,780 --> 00:49:32,040 I hope more good quality projects are covered directly. 586 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:37,980 We can work with them and feed in some affordability, yay, I know. 587 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:49,060 When I think too, when you have housing here, then you can get people coming in that want to have companies and stuff. 588 00:49:50,100 --> 00:49:50,240 Yeah. 589 00:49:51,460 --> 00:49:53,540 You have places to live then. 590 00:49:56,250 --> 00:49:59,970 All right, thank you, Kurt, and that brings us to Jeff. 591 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,560 Jackie for our favorite resident council report. 592 00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:06,540 Well, I'm honored. 593 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:08,320 Welcome. 594 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:16,700 Well, we had open house, and the council, of course, stepped right up there, and they sold high. 595 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:23,380 And, and the clerk forgot to tell you, but I talked on the radio too. 596 00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:29,420 But then I do every year, so it's no big deal. 597 00:50:30,780 --> 00:50:33,040 It's stopping me from talking. 598 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:41,820 And then I also was the hostess with the most. 599 00:50:42,740 --> 00:50:49,140 But now the council is getting ready for Halloween. 600 00:50:49,140 --> 00:50:59,700 So that's always really exciting in the outside, we'll be dressed up and know I'm not going to tell you as what, because it's a surprise. 601 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:10,920 But if you do happen to stop in, go out into the courtyard because we have witches and ghosts and old men, old men, 602 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:22,540 from kids that have monkey parks, but we always have good fun in Jordan Towers, so in the 603 00:51:22,540 --> 00:51:32,480 council is part of that. So stop in any time. Thank you. Jay, the coalition. Yeah, thank you. 604 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:41,340 I hope coalition met on September 15th, Thursday, and just to quick overview, 605 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:44,380 they have 606 00:51:44,380 --> 00:51:50,220 filled the remaining open positions in the staff, and they're only hiring for a relief 607 00:51:50,220 --> 00:51:53,520 staff at the shelter right now, so that's a good thing. 608 00:51:54,400 --> 00:52:02,300 They have relaunched their quarterly newsletter, and we'll be sent out July 22nd to any 609 00:52:02,300 --> 00:52:08,040 You're interested in receiving that, you can sign up at their website, 610 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:15,360 rescoeolition.org and programming, 611 00:52:17,380 --> 00:52:22,260 given a whole pad, a COVID-up break with their staff, 612 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,800 but that's all under control now. 613 00:52:27,540 --> 00:52:30,420 the transitional housing. 614 00:52:33,420 --> 00:52:37,780 We're having some talks about 615 00:52:41,140 --> 00:52:42,440 the lease and renewing it, 616 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,400 and that kind of thing, nothing decided yet. 617 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:55,520 They have an advocate splitting time as a, in the area of kids count, 618 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,420 which is their, it's advocacy. 619 00:52:58,420 --> 00:53:05,380 heart, splitting between red wing and cannon fall school districts and they're 620 00:53:05,380 --> 00:53:09,860 working to expand the time in other schools in the region just great 621 00:53:09,860 --> 00:53:14,020 thing to do, there are things, 622 00:53:17,900 --> 00:53:19,900 that's not up is it, you know, 623 00:53:19,980 --> 00:53:24,400 school chainers are new building, it said they were in a different building or they 624 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:28,640 are in a new building, that's in Mavashaw, not up here, no, not here yet, 625 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,100 We're still on all of us, man. 626 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,240 Right. And they're still. 627 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,800 I think they're still undertaking the whole. 628 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,480 Yeah. What do we want to do? 629 00:53:36,940 --> 00:53:37,620 Yeah. Okay. 630 00:53:38,100 --> 00:53:40,320 Build, find, whatever. 631 00:53:40,940 --> 00:53:42,660 So that's still. 632 00:53:45,460 --> 00:53:48,700 And then that brings us to Evan for a city council report. 633 00:53:50,140 --> 00:53:50,900 Thank you. 634 00:53:51,500 --> 00:53:52,920 Kurt, you kind of stole my thunder. 635 00:53:54,460 --> 00:53:57,760 Sorry, I want to follow up a little bit on this associated bank. 636 00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,440 I think that's a really big. 637 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:10,360 exciting deal. And again, what they've done has come in quickly, attracted to the city, just 638 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:15,820 kind of seeing the city in the vibrancy of it. And so I kind of want to stress that that 639 00:54:15,820 --> 00:54:21,980 what we are doing kind of generally is working and attracting developers here. And I really 640 00:54:21,980 --> 00:54:30,580 with Kurt that I think the Keller Bartman project which was really a catalyst for really saying 641 00:54:30,580 --> 00:54:37,360 that we have this huge pen up demand. As we know we look at just about every new development 642 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:43,800 and it's full nearly as soon as it's open. And so everything has waiting less a curve, you know, 643 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,340 just everything, and the vacancy rate is crazy low. 644 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,780 So I'm excited to see that come. 645 00:54:52,740 --> 00:54:54,180 That, you know, they move fast. 646 00:54:54,620 --> 00:54:57,240 We've been working with someone who was interested, 647 00:54:57,460 --> 00:54:59,880 but would never pull the trigger, even. 648 00:54:59,880 --> 00:54:59,980 Thanks. 649 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:12,820 Put the party under contract, I mean, so they are leading with their money, and they are really excited. You know, all this kind of, you know, activity in housing has done something really 650 00:55:13,580 --> 00:55:23,000 else. Interesting, and I think Jackie sort of alluded to it, but we do have a, we're in that importer of workers in the city, you know, more people come in to work, that 651 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:32,140 to go work out at places, and yet from 2010 to 2020, the city was, the population was 652 00:55:32,140 --> 00:55:37,540 essentially static. We didn't have a lot of new housing. Now that we're starting to 653 00:55:37,540 --> 00:55:43,520 see these housing units happen, you know, a community development analysis shows that we 654 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:52,160 have since 2020, and this includes some state analysis and also local analysis through our 655 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:59,840 community development, we're estimating right now through the end of this year, we're looking 656 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:03,600 at an increase in population of two and a half percent and two years. 657 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:11,860 That's significant and that's a trend that I think when we see all these new housing developments 658 00:56:11,860 --> 00:56:17,040 that are online, that are coming in, we are looking at hundreds and hundreds of new units, 659 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:24,120 we really do believe that will bring in further increase in our population. 660 00:56:24,720 --> 00:56:30,120 So that is a trend that helps us a lot, and so I really want to highlight that, you know, 661 00:56:30,460 --> 00:56:35,980 kind of, it is Roseanne said a few meetings ago earlier to me. 662 00:56:36,140 --> 00:56:40,940 She was like, you know, the idea that all these groups are kind of working within the kind of 663 00:56:40,940 --> 00:56:41,680 same roadmap. 664 00:56:41,980 --> 00:56:45,860 And we're all in the same, you know, we're all headed in the same direction is really 665 00:56:45,860 --> 00:56:48,860 part of the transformation I think that really helps. 666 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:55,240 I think when people work together things get done is finally, finally happening here. 667 00:56:55,240 --> 00:56:55,760 Exactly. 668 00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:57,800 So that's what I got to say. 669 00:56:58,040 --> 00:56:59,200 So I think it's exciting time. 670 00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:00,660 Thank you, Ellen. 671 00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:01,800 All right. 672 00:57:01,900 --> 00:57:04,560 Before we close, I do have a question. 673 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,860 I guess for Kurt, I was thinking about this as we're 674 00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,780 winding down with Paul Hall and moving in the winter. 675 00:57:12,820 --> 00:57:25,000 You know, when Regan was part of the organization, she represented us with the, and I'm not exactly sure the official name, the Red Wing homeless coalition, Red Wing homeless. 676 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:25,920 It was an event. 677 00:57:26,460 --> 00:57:33,060 And someone from the HRA actively involved with that currently, do you know, and who is that? 678 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,000 And would they be able to maybe give us some kind of an update? 679 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:43,560 meeting for that and if we can be of any help at all in that project. 680 00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:49,840 Yeah, Jennifer's tapped into about three different groups that are working on that, and that's 681 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:56,960 part of the it's a little bit of who's advancing what issue at any given time, but Jennifer 682 00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:03,120 that's her background. She comes out of working in homelessness and so she's maintained those connections 683 00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:08,780 and that involvement so she could absolutely put you at some point in the future about. 684 00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,200 Just haven't heard where things are out. 685 00:58:11,500 --> 00:58:19,780 Yeah, sure. Very good announcements. The next regular meeting is on November 8, 2022 held right 686 00:58:19,780 --> 00:58:22,300 here in the council chamber. 687 00:58:24,620 --> 00:58:27,140 Anyone else have any other announcements before we adjourn? 688 00:58:29,890 --> 00:58:31,350 Well then this meeting is adjourned.