1 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,480 What is that? 2 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:27,600 What's that? 3 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:28,440 » Yeah. 4 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:29,120 » Okay. 5 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,200 » Uh 6 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:33,200 » 59 7 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,360 » Welcome everyone. Um 8 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,800 Uh 9 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,440 I guess we'll start with our call to 10 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:42,360 order and uh and attendance and roll 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:42,360 call. Uh my name is Dan, Dan Zackem. 12 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,360 » Oh, Dan DeSimone. 13 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,360 » Present. 14 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,480 » Chris White 15 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,800 » Mary Good 16 00:00:49,480 --> 00:00:52,760 » Andrew Glassman 17 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,680 » Kim Lacey 18 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:57,680 » Uh good afternoon everyone. 19 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:59,680 Um not aware of any announcements or 20 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,480 other news other than 21 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,560 uh our agenda items, but if anyone has 22 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,559 anything they'd like to raise at the 23 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,800 outset, feel free. Any announcements of 24 00:01:04,559 --> 00:01:07,640 any kind? 25 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,520 No? 26 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,080 Um 27 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,720 if we could move on to just approval of 28 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,280 our agenda, I'll make a motion that the 29 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,040 agenda be approved. 30 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,240 » Second. 31 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,520 » All in favor? 32 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:17,840 » I 33 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:18,320 » I 34 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,000 » I 35 00:01:18,320 --> 00:01:22,480 » The agenda is approved. 36 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,720 Uh we have two sets of minutes 37 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,880 um 38 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,280 both from our, I believe, April 26th 39 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,960 normal meeting and then our training 40 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:31,640 session uh 41 00:01:29,960 --> 00:01:34,000 now at the ferry terminal. 42 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:36,880 Uh with regard to each, uh I'll make a 43 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:39,480 motion that the minutes for each uh be 44 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,480 approved. 45 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,080 » Motion to approve minutes. 46 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,120 » Yes. 47 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,440 » Okay. 48 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,480 » I second. 49 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:46,720 » All in favor? 50 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:47,840 » I 51 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,000 » I 52 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,080 » They are um 53 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,200 our minutes are approved. 54 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,480 Um 55 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,400 before we get into business, I just 56 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,280 wanted 57 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,440 to 58 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,360 put a couple things on the record, if 59 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,560 me. First, I want to thank 60 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,240 uh 61 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:04,240 my fellow committee members for taking 62 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:06,680 time and fighting the traffic 63 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,880 uh to come on down for this for this 64 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,880 special meeting and take time out of 65 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,960 your schedule. And also a special thanks 66 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,280 to 67 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:15,560 uh our law enforcement members for This 68 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,880 is a busy time of year for you folks and 69 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,600 and we understand that your time is 70 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,760 valuable. So, thank you so much and 71 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,160 especially a special thanks to Chief 72 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,080 Banks and 73 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:27,080 uh Lieutenant Sweet and and all of your 74 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,760 staff for getting us the 75 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,040 uh the room and the logistics set up and 76 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,600 everything on pretty short notice. So, 77 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,240 we appreciate that. 78 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,520 I would also be remiss at the outset if 79 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:37,480 I didn't 80 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,840 uh mention that Reverend Eddie uh wanted 81 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,520 very much 82 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,160 uh to be here today. 83 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,800 Uh but, he had an unavoidable conflict 84 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:46,120 that took him to an out of out of town 85 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:48,959 meeting in Seaford. Um so, he won't be 86 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,640 with us today. Um 87 00:02:48,959 --> 00:02:54,440 I just want to mention at the outset 88 00:02:50,640 --> 00:02:56,840 that uh our primary purpose, at least uh 89 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:59,360 in this one person's view today, 90 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:02,880 uh is just to briefly assemble uh for a 91 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:05,120 short period of time uh to acknowledge 92 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:07,600 uh the May 19th takeover event in 93 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:10,920 Rehoboth and the fact that this 94 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:13,400 committee uh understands 95 00:03:10,920 --> 00:03:16,519 uh that it is an event that the 96 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:19,680 community has a sincere interest in and 97 00:03:16,519 --> 00:03:21,120 that there are uh individuals as well as 98 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:24,560 organizations 99 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:26,480 uh that are interested in that event and 100 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:29,480 law enforcement's response. 101 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:31,680 Um it has been gratifying uh to the 102 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:34,080 chair at least, and I'll share with my 103 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:36,600 uh fellow members if they're not aware, 104 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:39,200 um that there's already been a number of 105 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:41,000 face-to-face communications between 106 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,760 individuals and various groups and 107 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:46,959 citizens within uh the greater Rehoboth 108 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:48,720 community with with law enforcement and 109 00:03:46,959 --> 00:03:53,320 specifically with the Rehoboth Police 110 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:55,840 Department and and Chief Banks and with 111 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:57,520 an already open 112 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,840 and direct avenue of communication 113 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:02,200 already existing between the community 114 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,280 and the law and law enforcement, 115 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,520 um, 116 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:07,880 it may which is of course a great thing 117 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,440 and a good thing and one of the reasons 118 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,640 that we all love the community that 119 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:14,040 we're in, um, 120 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:17,000 it may be unnecessary for this committee 121 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:18,600 to act as a proactive conduit for a 122 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,560 productive dialogue. And that's a good 123 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:23,480 thing. 124 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:26,360 Um, nevertheless, we wanted to say to 125 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:30,600 the community that we're here, we 126 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:34,919 understand that we may have a role with 127 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:36,360 regard to acting as a conduit for the 128 00:04:34,919 --> 00:04:37,960 community to reach out to law 129 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,680 enforcement with any questions or 130 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:42,760 concerns that they may have with regard 131 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,720 to this particular event or any other 132 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,720 issue 133 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:49,000 that involves law enforcement in any of 134 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:51,480 our respective communities, whether it's 135 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:54,000 with Delaware River Bay Authority 136 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:56,800 police or the town of Lewis or here in 137 00:04:54,000 --> 00:05:00,000 Rehoboth. Um, and we understand that we 138 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:02,880 do have a role in fostering a productive 139 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:06,240 dialogue between the community and law 140 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:08,480 enforcement. And, if appropriate, to 141 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,880 offer helpful suggestions 142 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:13,200 should 143 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:14,240 such events arise again in the future. 144 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,320 Um, 145 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:20,000 so having said that, um, 146 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,880 I would like to suggest and open 147 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,200 the floor to discussion with my fellow 148 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:26,400 committee members that we dedicate our 149 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,640 third quarter meeting, 150 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,880 specifically during the month of 151 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,440 September, 152 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:33,200 to a substantive discussion of the May 153 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,080 takeover event and law enforcement's 154 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,600 response. 155 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,680 I'll start off by respectfully 156 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:42,320 suggesting, 157 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:44,040 mid to late September for two important 158 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:46,680 reasons. 159 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:49,400 First, it may be 160 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:52,000 that persons who 161 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:54,640 were arrested would like to come and 162 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:56,040 speak to the committee and and provide 163 00:05:54,640 --> 00:06:00,080 their views 164 00:05:56,040 --> 00:06:01,320 on on the event. Um if we give the 165 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,080 criminal 166 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:08,840 justice process more time to work itself 167 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:10,680 out, it may be that uh potential Fifth 168 00:06:08,840 --> 00:06:13,000 Amendment issues 169 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:15,000 um which might be an impediment to 170 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,760 someone coming and feeling free to speak 171 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,160 to us. It may be that those issues could 172 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,640 be resolved. 173 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:23,480 So if someone, for example, was arrested 174 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:27,160 and has a pending criminal case, uh it 175 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:28,840 may be that they would choose not to 176 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,000 to speak to us and make any public 177 00:06:28,840 --> 00:06:33,480 statements and that because that could 178 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:35,280 potentially redound to their detriment. 179 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,800 Um so if we give 180 00:06:35,280 --> 00:06:39,280 and the process, the criminal justice 181 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:41,400 process, more time to work out, um 182 00:06:39,280 --> 00:06:43,520 perhaps we could remove that as an 183 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,000 impediment to folks being willing to 184 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:47,240 come speak to us. 185 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:49,000 Um secondly, I I 186 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:52,800 and again, in this one person's view, I 187 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:55,720 believe it would be appropriate to take 188 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:58,280 a little bit more time uh before having 189 00:06:55,720 --> 00:07:01,440 a substantive dialogue about the event 190 00:06:58,280 --> 00:07:04,800 to allow um Mr. Walton, Mr. Max Walton, 191 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:07,240 who is retained uh by the city to 192 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:09,800 conduct their conduct an independent 193 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:12,840 investigation of the event, to allow him 194 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:14,760 time to and his staff to complete their 195 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,880 investigation and to make their findings 196 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:19,120 public. 197 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:23,640 So on the one hand, we are more well 198 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:25,720 informed and better informed, um which 199 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,760 at a minimum would make the process, I 200 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,360 think, a little bit more efficient, and 201 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:33,160 it just may also be the prudent thing to 202 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:35,760 do, um to wait till we have more facts 203 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:38,200 at our disposal to inform any inquiries 204 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:40,520 that we might have and questions that we 205 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,880 would like to pose perhaps uh to law 206 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,200 enforcement with regard to their 207 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,160 response. 208 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,240 Um, 209 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,800 so, with those preliminary remarks out 210 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,960 of the way, uh, I would open the floor 211 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,720 at this point to my fellow committee 212 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:53,720 members for any views they might have 213 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,960 uh, and may wish to express with regard 214 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,360 to the subject of when should we 215 00:07:55,960 --> 00:08:00,200 schedule, 216 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:02,680 uh, our next meeting generally 217 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:05,280 uh, and whether or not at that time we 218 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:07,840 should be discussing or devote time to 219 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,960 discussing the May 19th event. 220 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,200 And then of course there are other 221 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:14,080 issues that were raised uh, in the past. 222 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:16,240 I know both Chris and Mary and Kim have 223 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:18,000 raised uh, other issues that they'd like 224 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,560 to see placed on future agendas and 225 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,600 perhaps we could address those as well 226 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,800 and take care of all of that 227 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:25,400 administrative business here today. 228 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:27,480 Uh, so with that I will conclude my 229 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:29,240 remarks and open up the floor to my 230 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:32,000 fellow members for any remarks that they 231 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,000 care to make. 232 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:39,680 » Ladies first. Uh, I know my man 233 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:42,280 » Um, I I agree with everything you said 234 00:08:39,680 --> 00:08:45,520 Dan and um, 235 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:47,800 would like us to have our next meeting 236 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:50,160 hopefully after the independent 237 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:52,040 investigation is complete so that we can 238 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,560 have 239 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:56,640 a report 240 00:08:53,560 --> 00:08:56,640 a good discussion. 241 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:05,800 » Mr. Chairman, I concur as well. 242 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:08,080 I do think that it's a 243 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:10,400 I do think Mr. Chairman, I do concur as 244 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:14,920 well. I do think that this committee 245 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:17,280 serves multiple purposes and uh, I do 246 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:19,760 not see members of the public. So, 247 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:22,480 you're with the newspaper? 248 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:25,000 Yes. Recognizable. 249 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:27,800 But but the general and you represent 250 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:30,360 the public, absolutely do. But this 251 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:33,839 committee also serves as an opportunity 252 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:37,839 for I've seen people write into the Cape 253 00:09:33,839 --> 00:09:40,760 Gazette expressing their opinions etc. 254 00:09:37,839 --> 00:09:43,000 But this committee also serves a purpose 255 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:45,800 by allowing a forum to have those same 256 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:48,480 type of citizens come and address their 257 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:51,240 concerns or state their 258 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:53,200 positions or questions, and so on and so 259 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:58,520 forth. So, I think that that's a good 260 00:09:53,200 --> 00:10:00,440 idea and that we do allow these other 261 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:04,200 processes 262 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,200 to go forward as well. 263 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,960 » I agree with both of what Kim and Dan 264 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:13,720 said. Um my only question was I thought 265 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:15,840 that all the charges had been dismissed. 266 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:18,080 » Well, it's interesting because 267 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,080 that's 268 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,160 our lack of knowledge, 269 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,120 right? Because 270 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,240 » I I only know this from the press 271 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,840 reports. 272 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:30,920 » I mean, that's that's part of it's part 273 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:33,120 of the problem is we don't know. 274 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,520 I I believe 275 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,240 that 276 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:39,400 the four felony charges 277 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,880 were dismissed. And And while I don't 278 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:44,000 want to be to nerd out on the law too 279 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:46,160 much, um 280 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,800 but one of the questions that I would 281 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,680 have before we have any substantive 282 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,120 discussions, assuming for the sake of 283 00:10:49,680 --> 00:10:53,000 argument that any of these four young 284 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:55,360 men would like to speak to us, 285 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:57,160 um and we're open to it. And And I'm 286 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,240 sure we're all in agreement that if if 287 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,839 someone 288 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,680 uh would like to speak to us, that we're 289 00:10:59,839 --> 00:11:03,640 here to listen. That's what we want to 290 00:11:01,680 --> 00:11:05,320 do, and that's what we should do. 291 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,240 But, I don't know, for example, whether 292 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:09,320 the charges were dismissed with 293 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:11,200 prejudice or without prejudice. And 294 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,600 again, not to nerd out too much, if the 295 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,760 charges were dismissed without 296 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:18,800 prejudice, in theory they can be 297 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:21,880 rebrought by the state at any time. And 298 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:23,320 those young men would have an extant 299 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,480 Fifth Amendment privilege. Obviously, 300 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,560 they 301 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,960 They They can make their personal 302 00:11:25,560 --> 00:11:28,680 choices in consultation with their 303 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,320 counsel, obviously. 304 00:11:28,680 --> 00:11:34,720 But, I wouldn't want to see our 305 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:36,120 committee be a venue for young people 306 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,800 saying things that could come back to 307 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:42,480 hurt them later or be used against them. 308 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:44,320 Um, so it's a good it's a good point. 309 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,800 There are also other folks, if my 310 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,160 understanding is correct again just from 311 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,520 press reports, 312 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:53,040 that there were other arrests for 313 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:54,920 uh underage drinking, uh perhaps there 314 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,480 was a fight or some I don't know, but 315 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,880 there were other there were charges 316 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,560 other than 317 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:03,840 or in addition to the four prominent 318 00:12:00,560 --> 00:12:05,600 felony charges. Um, so with regard to 319 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,080 any of those folks, 320 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,400 on the one hand, would we love to hear 321 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,840 their perspective if they wanted to 322 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:13,040 share it? Of course. Would we want them 323 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,400 to risk harming themselves in the 324 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,080 process? 325 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:18,560 I think not. 326 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:20,920 So, if we give more of this time to work 327 00:12:18,560 --> 00:12:24,440 out and we can learn more, then we can 328 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:26,120 be more informed uh about how we proceed 329 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,240 in our questioning of anyone who appears 330 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,680 before us. But that's it's a great 331 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:32,560 question, Andrew, and it's something 332 00:12:29,680 --> 00:12:32,560 that we need to learn. 333 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,880 Any Anything else on that particular 334 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,960 topic? 335 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,920 Um [clears throat] 336 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:44,040 Chief? 337 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:46,160 » I think uh 338 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaking of talking about dates, we're 339 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:51,400 looking at September, if I heard you 340 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:53,560 correctly, maybe the latter. Um 341 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,320 keeping in mind Tuesdays I think worked 342 00:12:53,560 --> 00:12:57,280 the best for everybody. So far we've 343 00:12:55,320 --> 00:13:00,000 been doing it consistently. 344 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:02,839 Um the 2nd and 3rd we usually have state 345 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:05,760 meetings. Can I only say that if that's 346 00:13:02,839 --> 00:13:07,400 the case, that would say the 22nd or the 347 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,520 29th 348 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,960 um day. And then I would look over at 349 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:15,640 Marco and see if any of those dates are 350 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:19,240 available here or if um Tom knows if if 351 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:21,920 the room's available in Lewis. 352 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:23,039 » We're on one of the fine DRBA vessels as 353 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:23,520 well. That's always a possibility. 354 00:13:23,039 --> 00:13:25,360 [laughter] 355 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,400 » That's correct, too. 356 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,640 » There you go. 357 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,920 » But you got those dates works for 358 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,920 everyone. 359 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,640 » Okay. 360 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:37,960 » So, I heard both days are are really 361 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:40,400 available in here for 10:00. That's the 362 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:42,040 22nd and 29th. That's 363 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:45,200 last two 364 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:46,680 Tuesdays of the month of September. 365 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:50,360 If anybody has a preference. 366 00:13:46,680 --> 00:13:52,560 » Any preferences among my colleagues? 367 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,520 I I'd suggest that we 368 00:13:52,560 --> 00:13:56,720 go with the 29th just to make sure that 369 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,560 we've given it time. 370 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,560 » Great suggestion. It's a good point. 371 00:13:58,560 --> 00:14:02,339 » Think holding it here, given the 372 00:14:00,560 --> 00:14:04,800 majority of the topic will be about 373 00:14:02,339 --> 00:14:06,720 [clears throat] the takeover. 374 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,880 It might lend itself to more community 375 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,840 members. 376 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,560 » Also a good point. 377 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:14,440 » Coming and commenting. 378 00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:16,120 » So, Tuesday, September 29th, 10:00 a.m. 379 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,120 here. 380 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,880 » Correct. And I'll work with you, Mr. 381 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:22,760 Chairman, to get the agenda put together 382 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,240 and make sure that the city of Rehoboth 383 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,120 Beach gets that posted and put out to 384 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:28,440 everyone as it gets closer. 385 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:30,000 » Great. Now, I 386 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,200 So, just so we play by the rules, I 387 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,760 suppose make a formal motion that we 388 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,760 hold our next 389 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:38,760 quarterly meeting on Tuesday, September 390 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:41,440 29th at 10:00 a.m. here in Rehoboth. 391 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,920 Second it. Second. Favor say I. 392 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,080 » I. 393 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,520 » Okay. 394 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,520 Um 395 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,920 Should we 396 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,920 um 397 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:53,800 My notes reflect that 398 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,440 there were other issues. Should we also 399 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,640 include on the agenda Chris, for 400 00:14:55,440 --> 00:15:01,200 example, last time we were here 401 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:02,839 uh raised the issue of fraud and senior 402 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,880 citizen victims. 403 00:15:02,839 --> 00:15:06,720 Kim had raised uh wanting to have some 404 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:09,320 discussion about mental health crisis 405 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,720 responses and gang activity. 406 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,400 Um 407 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,400 Mary 408 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,839 » I have two two topics. 409 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,480 » Had had two different topics. 410 00:15:13,839 --> 00:15:18,720 » Yes. 411 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:20,600 » I I On the one hand, um I'll I'll 412 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,560 take judgment from you folks. On one 413 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,480 hand, I don't want to overload it if got 414 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:26,320 one big topic we want to deal with, but 415 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,640 also 416 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,880 how do you think 417 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:31,320 we should handle that with regard to our 418 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,200 other issues? 419 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:35,720 » I mean, it seems to me we need to see 420 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:38,680 how this plays out in terms of the 421 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:42,160 timing with the report from the 422 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:44,760 independent counsel completing that and 423 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:47,880 being ready for that timing. So, one 424 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:51,320 thought would be we could list out the 425 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:54,760 top the other topics, prioritize them. 426 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:56,680 If the takeover topic can be discussed, 427 00:15:54,760 --> 00:16:00,080 then we put that first cuz I think it is 428 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:02,320 on people's minds and and then based on 429 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,040 the list of priorities, we can time out 430 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:06,080 what else we have room for or what may 431 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,440 be more urgent. And then the the other 432 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,360 topics 433 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,920 still important, we could push to the 434 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,560 next meeting potentially. 435 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,800 » Fair enough. We get We get to what we 436 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:17,840 can get to. We start with the takeover 437 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:20,400 incident. However much time that takes, 438 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:22,160 get to as much else as we can. If not, 439 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,320 we push it to our 440 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,640 our next regularly scheduled meeting. 441 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:29,360 Does that make sense? 442 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:32,440 » Yeah, and as far as my topic is with uh 443 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:33,960 fraud with the seniors, um 444 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:36,400 I am working with the University of 445 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:38,880 Delaware Osher Lifelong Learning 446 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:41,560 Institute, and then we have a class that 447 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:45,120 is scheduled in September and October. 448 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:46,240 It's five sessions from 2:30 to 3:45 in 449 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:49,600 Lewis. 450 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:52,960 Um so, Lieutenant Locklear and then Dan 451 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:55,880 have um graciously um agreed to 452 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:57,800 volunteer to present at um two of those. 453 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,440 I'm going to be a presenter as well as 454 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:02,320 the um Better Business Bureau of 455 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:04,040 Delaware and then possibly AARP. So, I 456 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,760 don't think it's a topic we necessarily 457 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,800 need to discuss here. I was just 458 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,400 bringing it up something I was um 459 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,560 working on. 460 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:12,520 » That Well, that's that sounds great. 461 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,920 Talk about that. An issue that needs to 462 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,240 be addressed, so thanks for doing that, 463 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,959 Chris. Get that organized. 464 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:19,040 » Should I 465 00:17:16,959 --> 00:17:20,920 just briefly mention two topics so 466 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,319 everyone's aware? 467 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:25,520 So, um 468 00:17:22,319 --> 00:17:28,600 the first one came from a citizen who 469 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:30,960 was concerned about um 470 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:34,320 jurisdictions publishing via the 471 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:37,640 newspaper and social media mugshots of 472 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:39,840 arrestees, in particular juveniles, and 473 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,200 I I don't have any specifics as to 474 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:43,280 whether that's 475 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:46,600 uh a common practice or whether that's 476 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:49,880 not done, but I think it would be useful 477 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:52,280 for us to hear about the approach the 478 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:54,680 different jurisdictions take towards 479 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:58,480 that, the policies and procedures that 480 00:17:54,680 --> 00:18:00,960 govern it, and what happens after that 481 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:04,120 case is adjudicated, in particular if 482 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:06,040 the person is not found guilty, that 483 00:18:04,120 --> 00:18:09,600 material is still out in the public 484 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:11,440 domain. So, that's um my first question, 485 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:13,000 and it did come from a citizen of 486 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,720 Rehoboth Beach. 487 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:17,760 The second one came from uh my 488 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:20,720 ride-along that I did with Lieutenant 489 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:24,680 Lamore, which was extremely informative. 490 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:27,640 Uh we spent 6 hours together, um 491 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,920 and I learned through that visit and 492 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,080 tour 493 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:33,360 uh about a little bit more about the use 494 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:35,480 of tasers, and I know you participated 495 00:18:33,360 --> 00:18:37,360 with the the training on tasers, which I 496 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:39,760 was unable to do. 497 00:18:37,360 --> 00:18:42,200 Um I also learned that I believe the 498 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:45,520 city of Rehoboth and the city of Lewis 499 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:48,720 do use tasers as part of their protocol, 500 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:51,280 but um the Delaware um 501 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:54,520 uh River and Bay Authority does not have 502 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,760 tasers for some jurisdictional reasons, 503 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,720 and so, 504 00:18:55,760 --> 00:19:00,560 uh you know, when we were talking about 505 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:03,800 this with respect to, you might have 800 506 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:06,760 people on the ferry, and the choice is 507 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:09,880 you're either physically trying to 508 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:12,920 handle a situation, potentially 509 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:16,440 you know, injuring yourself or a um a 510 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:19,680 victim or a witness or a perpetrator 511 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:21,920 or you have the use of a firearm 512 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:24,200 it does seem like you know some 513 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:27,800 questions about whether or not tasers 514 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:29,760 should be more broadly used. So my my 515 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:33,200 reasoning in bringing this up is just to 516 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:36,360 help educate our committee about how the 517 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:39,920 use of tasers works and maybe the pros 518 00:19:36,360 --> 00:19:44,320 and cons of of that in terms of an 519 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:46,480 alternative to the use of deadly force. 520 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:48,400 » That's a great issue. Mayor and I spoke 521 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:50,880 offline about that briefly and it is 522 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:53,640 something that's worthy of of discussion 523 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:55,280 and and something that we 524 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,800 would benefit from educating ourselves 525 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,840 on that. So 526 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:01,080 if we get to it 527 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,840 that's something that we can we can talk 528 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:05,000 about. 529 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:07,520 » Yes Mr. Chairman I would add since that 530 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:10,920 topic comes up has come up 531 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:13,240 depend on our time frame and so when we 532 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:15,800 get to that maybe we can have a bigger 533 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:18,240 topic just on use of force in general to 534 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:20,920 how we sit there and 535 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:22,400 what tools are on our tool belt per se 536 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,880 and what we use for different 537 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,760 jurisdictions and 538 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:28,040 and reasons behind it. Most our 539 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,640 departments have people use of force I 540 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,480 want to say I'll call them specialists 541 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,200 there's you know they teach firearms 542 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:36,800 training or they teach taser training or 543 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:39,280 baton or or hands on handcuffing things 544 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:41,000 like that so we can think 21 our 545 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:44,400 departments we have some specialties 546 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:46,040 that we can talk about that more detail 547 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,600 or whatever. I think that's always 548 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,480 important and I think it's certainly 549 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:51,120 something this committee should be 550 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,320 talking about that's what the public's 551 00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:55,040 interested in use of force and as we 552 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:57,920 move forward so I think it's certainly 553 00:20:55,040 --> 00:21:00,120 appropriate and think um 554 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:02,120 that may almost be a day in it by itself 555 00:21:00,120 --> 00:21:04,160 if we had different people talking about 556 00:21:02,120 --> 00:21:06,680 use of force in their 557 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:08,120 the different tools that we have. 558 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,520 » Well, thanks, Chief. 559 00:21:08,120 --> 00:21:12,000 Um 560 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:14,200 So, I just to 561 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,800 uh to conclude on on that topic, um 562 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,440 again, I I just wanted to reiterate I 563 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,240 was I was gratified to hear, and I'm 564 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:21,560 sure my fellow committee members are 565 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,160 gratified to hear that there has been 566 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,480 uh 567 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:26,960 an open line of communication 568 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,840 uh between law enforcement and members 569 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:31,280 of the community and different groups 570 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:33,040 within the greater Rehoboth community. 571 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:37,240 Um but if we can add to that, if we can 572 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:39,280 help play a role uh in facilitating um 573 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,960 community involvement, uh that's what 574 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,680 we're here to do, and 575 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:45,840 uh we're willing and able and anxious to 576 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:48,600 listen, and if appropriate, pass on 577 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:51,000 suggestions that uh may come from 578 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:53,120 different community members in terms of 579 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,720 of how we may handle ourselves uh should 580 00:21:53,120 --> 00:21:56,040 si- similar situations arise in the 581 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,440 future. 582 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,320 So, with that, I thank everyone. 583 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,080 Um 584 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,880 Yes, sir. 585 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:05,120 » If I may not to belittle the same topic, 586 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:07,280 but um here in Rehoboth Beach is has 587 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:09,360 been uh mentioned that um the city has 588 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,480 retained outside counsel to be looking 589 00:22:09,360 --> 00:22:13,000 into this investigation. It is my 590 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,480 understanding, again, the mayor and 591 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:17,800 council or will decide, I guess, if they 592 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,640 want to, but I believe 593 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,520 that they'll they're going to do a 594 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,840 when this the investigation's done, open 595 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:26,160 forum to anyway and have people come in, 596 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,680 so this would be another opportunity. 597 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:30,360 So, um 598 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:32,600 which I think is great or whatever. Um 599 00:22:30,360 --> 00:22:35,800 so, it may have already be out there and 600 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:37,360 discussed ahead of time, but obviously 601 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,560 there's several different approaches 602 00:22:37,360 --> 00:22:39,440 maybe 603 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,240 » I'm sorry. So, you were saying that when 604 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,000 the 605 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,400 When the report's done 606 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:45,760 » My understanding is the city may elect 607 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:49,200 to decide to have a open house or a 608 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:50,600 community forum or something, too. So, 609 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,480 Um so, 610 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:55,120 the That's why it's good have maybe some 611 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:57,560 other topics ready there so we you guys 612 00:22:55,120 --> 00:22:59,400 obviously can hear it again hear again, 613 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:02,600 depending on how the conclusion of the 614 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:06,040 um investigation goes. I will just echo 615 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,680 um as um the chairperson said, is I have 616 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,160 um 617 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,560 been reaching out and speaking with some 618 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,440 different community members, some 619 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:14,320 outside citizens, some residents, just 620 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:16,440 talking to them one-on-one. Um not not 621 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:19,200 many. And then 622 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:21,640 a couple local groups have reached out 623 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:23,160 out and so I met with two of them. I 624 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,120 think there was a total five of us got 625 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:28,080 together last Thursday and spoke and it 626 00:23:25,120 --> 00:23:30,160 was productive or whatever. And still 627 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:32,360 not substantive cuz we still waiting for 628 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,480 an investigation and all, but I'm 629 00:23:32,360 --> 00:23:35,800 certainly have that dialogue and all 630 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:38,280 with beach since this is where it 631 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:40,880 occurred. Is I'm very fortunate. I have 632 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:43,320 a lot of different community members and 633 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:45,320 organizations such as Camp and Main 634 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,120 Street, Chamber of Commerce and all. And 635 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,280 I meet with them monthly. 636 00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:50,840 So at the same time we broke talked 637 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,960 about it and all. And all of them have 638 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,600 concerns rightly so and and they're 639 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,920 board members that they want to report 640 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,400 back to. So they'll be coming, you know, 641 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,680 in 642 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,520 ready to hear what's going to be 643 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,680 concluded or whatever, but everybody's 644 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,760 been very um 645 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,920 forthright and very professional. All 646 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,520 organizations say, "How can we help?" 647 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,480 You know, we know there's investigation. 648 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,680 Help out with training or anything like 649 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,440 that. So 650 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:17,240 I do want to say publicly thank you to 651 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:19,760 our community members and and for for 652 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,840 the support without taking sides. It's 653 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,440 just hey, let's wait for the the facts 654 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,000 to come out. So that's that's been 655 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:28,760 really good and I think that goes to 656 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:30,680 show a lot about this packs what why we 657 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,080 have this and why we have law 658 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,040 enforcement we get together with our 659 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:37,560 community members. So 660 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,560 we can have those um 661 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,600 partnerships already. So we sit there 662 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,960 and have that open line of communication 663 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,240 or whatever. But yes, everybody's 664 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:48,280 waiting for the facts just like this. So 665 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:49,440 are we. And you know, I'm sure though um 666 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,920 that will come out and there'll be some 667 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,360 things that we can 668 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:56,400 learn from that as every 669 00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:57,680 case anytime how we we improve on on it 670 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,640 and 671 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,120 work with our community. So, we're 672 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,000 certainly looking forward to that, but 673 00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:03,640 yes, 674 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,480 Decker, what you said, we are reaching 675 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,600 out as much as possible. I'm kind of 676 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,760 limited on what I can um 677 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:12,760 as far as the investigation stuff, I can 678 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:14,960 say um on Thursday and this past Monday 679 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:17,080 um majority of my 680 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:19,120 um officers that were being interviewed 681 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,400 have been interviewed. I'm not sure 682 00:25:19,120 --> 00:25:24,760 which else is how many more if any more 683 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:26,520 are on the list or not. Uh but I know um 684 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,200 the ones I saw and I know 685 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,600 um 686 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:32,000 meeting with the attorneys to further 687 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,760 investigation, so it is moving along. 688 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,080 » Right. 689 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:37,080 Thanks, Chief, for that update. 690 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:39,480 Appreciate it. Um 691 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:41,600 at this time open the floor to public 692 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,800 comment, but seeing that there are 693 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,720 no members of the public present. 694 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,000 Um 695 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,680 » Mr. Chairman, just two items before we 696 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,280 » Yes, sir. Yes, sir, Dan. 697 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:53,520 » Um Lieutenant, I read in the newspaper 698 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,800 that you have a new addition to your 699 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,560 staff the of the four-legged nature that 700 00:25:55,800 --> 00:26:00,120 is 701 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:02,192 assigned to Cape May. 702 00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:02,480 » That is correct. 703 00:26:02,192 --> 00:26:04,520 » [clears throat] 704 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,560 » K9 Joker is his name. 705 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,480 » Got you. Congratulations on that front. 706 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,640 » Thank you. 707 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,720 » And also to our law enforcement 708 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,520 leadership, fellow members, Mr. 709 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:16,680 Chairman, if I'm not mistaken, it was 710 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:19,280 June 1 year ago that we first met. 711 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:21,188 So, I don't see a cake, but hey, you 712 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,960 know what? Congratulations 713 00:26:21,188 --> 00:26:24,640 » [laughter] 714 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,800 » 1 year in the books and thank you for 715 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,800 having the confidence in all of us to be 716 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,000 on the committee. 717 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,680 » My pleasure. 718 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,040 » Thank you for stepping up and 719 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,240 volunteering. 720 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,040 » Well, if he really stepped up, he would 721 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,943 have brought the cake. 722 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,963 » That's true. 723 00:26:34,943 --> 00:26:36,963 » [laughter] 724 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:43,480 » Um Mr. Chair, I'm wondering, too, if we 725 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:45,360 can talk briefly about Mary's survey and 726 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:48,120 the work that's being done there as it 727 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:48,760 relates to potential new members. 728 00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:51,880 » Sure. 729 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:53,560 » And the other thing is I think 730 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,640 we're starting the clock on some 731 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,600 continued training. Is that right for 732 00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:00,040 this coming year? 733 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,840 Do we have more training? 734 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,960 » I I'd have to read that. I don't think 735 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:06,440 we have to is the your first year you 736 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:08,480 had to have 20 hours now. I certainly 737 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:11,520 think we should always be learning and I 738 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:14,080 will always open up any training we have 739 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:16,760 on like when we come back to taser again 740 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,960 on for that and our seasonal training 741 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:21,000 and things like that. So um 742 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,920 and I would encourage the board if you 743 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,840 have a topic of some training or 744 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,840 whatever to let us know. We might even 745 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,080 have instructors 746 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,240 to be able to sit down and talk about 747 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,920 it, you know, could we have detectives 748 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,040 um 749 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:35,840 when we talk about fraud or seniors or 750 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:39,360 people we can sit up 751 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:42,400 people to come in here, AG's office um 752 00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:44,120 FBI protection details, what whatever. I 753 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,800 think it's whatever this committee 754 00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:47,320 wants, but we certainly 755 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,640 can do additional training. 756 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:53,080 » I would welcome, you know, emails or 757 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:55,120 whatever about any upcoming trainings or 758 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,320 um education that would help us as a 759 00:27:55,120 --> 00:27:58,200 board. 760 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,960 » It's interesting cuz I I tried to 761 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,680 research whether there was any ongoing 762 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,520 requirement. It doesn't appear that 763 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:07,640 there is anything 764 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:10,560 listed. It's silent on that, but I would 765 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:12,760 concur with your recommendation that we 766 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:15,760 need to continuously 767 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:18,600 be keeping ourselves educated and I 768 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:22,640 think just learning helps us to be 769 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,640 better able to serve the community. 770 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:28,240 » In that regard maybe the discussion of 771 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:30,320 use of force would be better off as a 772 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:34,480 training session rather than a 773 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:36,720 using the minutes of a regular meeting. 774 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,920 It's a suggestion. 775 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,360 Perhaps 776 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,760 Perhaps 777 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,880 » Yeah, I think we certainly can do do 778 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,880 that and use as training hours even at 779 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,800 one of the regular meetings and um one 780 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,880 of us 781 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,760 would talk offline and um bring in 782 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,720 different people from our department and 783 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:55,000 our person in charge of taser and other 784 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:57,080 one can talk about overview of policies 785 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,480 and procedures we use it for us. Um 786 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,560 maybe have our one of our firearms 787 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,720 instructors to sit there and talk about 788 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:06,360 about that and what the requirements are 789 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:08,240 and all and um so yeah. 790 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,960 Yeah, so I think you could take a full 791 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,880 90 to hours up on that and use it as 792 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,280 training during one of our meetings. 793 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,120 » Okay. 794 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,280 » Yeah, I like the idea of doing it doing 795 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,760 it during a meeting because then the 796 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:22,120 public gets to hear 797 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:24,800 about the policies and procedures and 798 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:26,680 about the training that the officers 799 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,800 undergo and I think that would be of 800 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:31,040 benefit to the community. 801 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,880 » And and hopefully as we get this going 802 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,560 we'll have more community members um 803 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,520 come forward to these meetings and be 804 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,600 able to ask questions at the time while 805 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,520 we're all there. 806 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,640 » Okay. 807 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,200 » Sounds good. 808 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,640 Um Mary, if you want to take a moment to 809 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,400 » Sure. 810 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,160 » Discuss the 811 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,920 » Sure, so 812 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,160 » What you've been trying to do for us. 813 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:52,040 » So at our last meeting just to bring 814 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:55,280 everybody back to that we had an 815 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:57,600 applicant. We made the decision to put 816 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,640 on hold um 817 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:02,720 bringing anyone new onto the committee 818 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:05,680 until we were able to really assess 819 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:08,360 our own makeup with respect to are we 820 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,880 representative of the constituencies 821 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,200 that we serve. 822 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:14,640 So with our chair's help we have 823 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:17,645 developed a very brief 824 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,720 survey for each of our committee members 825 00:30:17,645 --> 00:30:20,040 » [clears throat] 826 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:22,600 » That is intended to just better 827 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:25,640 understand their experiences and 828 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:28,800 perspectives. It's an anonymous survey. 829 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:32,320 Uh there's no attribution of names. Uh 830 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:35,360 in fact it's simply a check the box. So 831 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:38,240 people won't be writing in any comments. 832 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:40,640 Um I will then take those results, 833 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,640 summarize those results 834 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:45,280 and at a future meeting when 835 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:47,600 appropriate, share that with 836 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:50,640 the committee and our officers and the 837 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:54,480 public so that we're better informed as 838 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:56,840 to as candidates present themselves, 839 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,720 what gaps we may have currently on the 840 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:02,000 committee and where we might be looking 841 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:03,960 to try to augment our own experiences 842 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:08,440 with other members of the community that 843 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:08,440 may bring unique perspectives. 844 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,360 » Great. Thank Thank you, Mary. Thank And 845 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,480 thanks for taking on the responsibility 846 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,840 of doing that. 847 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,840 Um 848 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,400 Okay. Um 849 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,920 Again, open the floor again to public 850 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:27,720 comment. 851 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:29,520 Hearing none, I'd make a motion to 852 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,160 adjourn. 853 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,840 » Before we adjourn, looks like we have 854 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:37,680 some folks that just showed up. Do they 855 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,680 have anything they'd like to engage on? 856 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,320 » Um 857 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,720 I Yeah. Coast City News. Hi. 858 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,480 » Okay. 859 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:48,000 » I have one one more thing. Um 860 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:51,320 Could we just get a little update or 861 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,800 whatever on the summer officers? 862 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,320 And how that's working for you? 863 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:57,520 » Thank you for for that, Andrew. Um 864 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:59,800 to to my from my perspective, 865 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,560 we they're doing a really good job. Um 866 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,640 so 867 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:06,400 we had four four returnees. 868 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,400 And um 869 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,640 you know, so with so many younger ones, 870 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,880 some first year, they're a little bit 871 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,280 hesitant. So we're out there they're 872 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,720 doing some ride-along with full-time 873 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,480 officers and walking with full-time 874 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,600 officers, but they're doing a nice job. 875 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,840 Um I've had no complaints. Um when I 876 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,720 speak with them one-on-one, they love 877 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,440 it. 878 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:27,200 And uh they really thought the training 879 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:30,680 went well. And uh and um quite honestly, 880 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:32,080 um I've seen them to be more um engaging 881 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:35,560 this year with the public. I have 882 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:38,360 received um letters already and emails 883 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:40,080 um about their engagement and um being 884 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,360 out front and being seen. So, that's 885 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:45,320 always positive early on because 886 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:47,040 sometimes it takes a a month or two 887 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,800 you know, for them to feel comfortable 888 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,800 in the uniform that they're wearing per 889 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:54,120 se. They 890 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:56,480 but so far it's been very positive. 891 00:32:54,120 --> 00:33:01,000 Our summer overall is 892 00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:02,480 been steady but nothing major. Um, 893 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,560 Mark, anything you want to add with 894 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,880 summer officers? 895 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,280 » I don't think so. I mean, I would I 896 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,320 would I think when we started I was 897 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,440 speaking with Kim that they seem to be a 898 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,480 lot more proactive this year than they 899 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,920 have in past years, which is good. It's 900 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,280 nice to see them go out and actually do 901 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,720 something. 902 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,520 » Yeah, and I think that gets goes back to 903 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:23,120 the training that we changed it up this 904 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,320 year and they had more time on scenario 905 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,920 based 906 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:29,720 and using the radio and get 907 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:32,280 body camera and things like that to just 908 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:35,040 get more comfortable with their tools 909 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:36,800 and with their selves in uniform. So, 910 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,560 like I said, I think that's been a big 911 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,520 help help 912 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,880 spend additional hours and more training 913 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,960 on us and this year we 914 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,560 as many of you may know, 915 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:49,920 we actually put in two TAC officers. So, 916 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,640 they're with them all four weeks and 917 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,080 also it's very consistent with those 918 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,600 individuals. So, they feel more 919 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:58,960 comfortable with them sharing things 920 00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:00,680 because not only do we talk about 921 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,320 what their jobs are and functions out 922 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,400 there, we talk about their health and 923 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:06,640 wellness. So, we've got those components 924 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:09,120 in there too. So, I think they feel more 925 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,960 comfortable even with us to to go out 926 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,679 there and in turn hopefully that 927 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,720 reflects out to our public. 928 00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:17,840 » Chief, free question. 929 00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:19,879 » I'd like to add that as I take my walks 930 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:22,360 on the boardwalk, I've met I would say 931 00:34:19,879 --> 00:34:24,560 four seasonal officers 932 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,800 and I try to engage them and let them 933 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,399 know I'm on the committee and ask them, 934 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,040 you know, is this your first year? Do 935 00:34:28,399 --> 00:34:31,560 you want a career in law enforcement? 936 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,399 Get to know them for, you know, two 937 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,720 three minutes and they've been very 938 00:34:33,399 --> 00:34:38,120 professional, very engaging and they all 939 00:34:35,720 --> 00:34:39,520 seem very happy to be here. So, I would 940 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,760 encourage you to do the same and you get 941 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,600 some exercise as well. 942 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,360 » It's it's actually I would agree with 943 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:48,000 you. I've been trying to do the same and 944 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:50,080 it's really encouraging to see how many 945 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:52,639 members of the community are approaching 946 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:56,879 them just to have a chat, you know, they 947 00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:59,200 they do seem more engaged this year. So, 948 00:34:56,879 --> 00:35:00,880 kudos. If that was part of the training, 949 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,840 that's really helping them to do better 950 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,120 outreach. That's seems to really be 951 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,640 working. 952 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,800 » It is but at the same time we're very 953 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,800 fortunate. It's 954 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:13,280 it's been a turnaround the last year and 955 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:15,520 a half with off more officers applying 956 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:17,440 for full-time and seasonal employment. 957 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:20,280 So, you have more opportunity to do more 958 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:22,440 interviews, testing and look for those 959 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:25,440 individuals cuz as we know at the beach 960 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:27,000 resorts and and with the ferry terminal, 961 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,800 it is about 962 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,800 the public serving. It's about 963 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:33,360 communication and so 964 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,480 that's what we need out of our officers 965 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,360 to be ambassadors and that's what we sit 966 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,240 down and teach them a lot as some of you 967 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,160 said in the training and you would hear 968 00:35:39,240 --> 00:35:44,120 that from the mayor, commissioners and 969 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:47,200 myself when I'm addressing them. 970 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:49,880 » Thank you, Chief. And Mary thankfully 971 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,400 pointed out that I was skipping over 972 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:54,040 one item agenda 973 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:56,440 one agenda item, excuse me. 974 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:58,200 If there was any additional reports or 975 00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:01,440 anything from 976 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:03,080 from our law enforcement members. 977 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,760 Lieutenant Lamore, is there any 978 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,760 » No. 979 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,480 » We'll go down the line. 980 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,420 » None. 981 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:07,480 » Not this time. 982 00:36:07,420 --> 00:36:09,040 » [clears throat] 983 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,800 » Next time I'll probably have a list of 984 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,600 different events that we've had 985 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,760 » Right. 986 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,600 » Up until September that I can report on. 987 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,880 » Right. Thank you. 988 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:19,080 » We had we did have the World Cup watch 989 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,480 party at the ferry. I can report on 990 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,400 that. There was I think over a thousand 991 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,200 people showed up. 992 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:22,600 » Really? 993 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,920 » Yeah. 994 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:27,800 » Yeah, I was going to do a kudos on that 995 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:29,920 because I attended and it was the police 996 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,920 presence was wonderful, the city of 997 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,200 Lewis, and the Delaware River Bay 998 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,240 Authority. 999 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:37,320 And [clears throat] 1000 00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:38,640 it was really nice to see families and 1001 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,400 kids 1002 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:43,000 all convening and 1003 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,400 cheering on a team. 1004 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,040 » Yeah. 1005 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,440 » Nice nice community event. 1006 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:50,240 » They were expecting around 500 and a bit 1007 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,640 more than double. So. 1008 00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:52,640 It was a lot. 1009 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,800 But it went well. 1010 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,760 » Great. Chief? 1011 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,840 » The only upcoming thing for Lewis uh our 1012 00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:01,160 June 10th celebration is this Saturday 1013 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:02,560 1:00 to 5:00 in Blockhouse Pond. 1014 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,760 And that's it. 1015 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,920 » Thanks. 1016 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,520 » I was just going to mention the summer 1017 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,680 races which we've already talked about 1018 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,440 out so that has going well and of course 1019 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,320 we're having a big event coming up the 1020 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,720 5th of July for our fireworks and 1021 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,920 celebration in 250 years. So it's going 1022 00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:18,960 to be an extended fireworks. So we're 1023 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:21,360 expecting big crowds and hoping for 1024 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:23,480 great weather and I just had So we're 1025 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,280 setting that up or have law enforcement 1026 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,360 agencies come in and help us out. The 1027 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,320 big lift is from the Delaware State 1028 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,720 Police and their special unit so they'll 1029 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,840 all be in place as well as live other 1030 00:37:31,720 --> 00:37:36,120 local municipalities and in turn will 1031 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:38,040 help them out with their events back and 1032 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,960 forth throughout the state up and down 1033 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:42,160 the state A for that. So it's a 1034 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,040 definitely a group effort. Just spoke 1035 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,920 with the lifeguards this morning. We'll 1036 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,840 have lifeguards on the beach as we do 1037 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,280 every year too. 1038 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:52,360 And for anything that happens extended 1039 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,400 hours so they'll they won't be guarding 1040 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,320 but they'll be helping us with the 1041 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,200 fireworks and crowd control and things 1042 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,080 like that on the beach and till it's 1043 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,240 over. 1044 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,120 » Right. Thanks, Chief. 1045 00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:03,400 » And one of Sorry, Lieutenant. 1046 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,760 » Sorry, I do have two more things since 1047 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:08,320 we won't be back till September. Um 1048 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:11,040 so grain concert series they call it 1049 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,720 rocking the docks. It's every Friday 1050 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,960 throughout the summer. So I think 1051 00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:16,000 there's like 1052 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:18,000 18 concerts 1053 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:21,480 on the ferry green. 1054 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:22,560 And it's they get anywhere from 3 to 700 1055 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,160 people. 1056 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,040 » Wow. 1057 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:27,000 » Depending on who's what 1058 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,320 who's playing in the concert. 1059 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,040 And then we also have Rock the Boat 1060 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,720 concerts, and that's every Thursday 1061 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,760 through the summer. 1062 00:38:31,720 --> 00:38:34,440 » Fireworks. 1063 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,920 » And the fireworks, July 2nd, 3rd, and 1064 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,600 4th events. 1065 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,280 » Wow. 1066 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,381 » Obviously, if they're plugging their 1067 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,400 fireworks, uh 1068 00:38:39,381 --> 00:38:42,720 » [laughter] 1069 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:45,520 » Lewes has quite a show on July 4th 1070 00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:47,640 itself at dusk on 1071 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:50,320 on Lewes Beach. So. 1072 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:52,160 » And sure as well, this body won't meet 1073 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,481 till September. 1074 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:52,640 Uh 1075 00:38:52,481 --> 00:38:54,880 » [clears throat] 1076 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,960 » I see on the calendar that August 4th is 1077 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,880 listed as the National Night Out for law 1078 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,280 enforcement. 1079 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,840 » Yep. 1080 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:03,160 » Could one of you maybe briefly explain 1081 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:05,960 for folks that may or may not know what 1082 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:07,280 that is, and do each of your agencies 1083 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,760 participate in that? 1084 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,160 » Sure, uh National Night Out is a is a 1085 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,120 just that. It's a National Night Out 1086 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,240 where 1087 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:16,640 municipal law enforcement agencies get 1088 00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:19,480 to connect with their communities. Uh 1089 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,120 Lewes, we do it on August 4th uh every 1090 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:23,440 year. 1091 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:25,560 » First Tuesday of the month, I think. Uh 1092 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:28,240 of August. And uh it's just it's a good 1093 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:30,600 event. We cook uh for our community. We 1094 00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:32,560 have a band. We have uh 1095 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,920 probably 30 different vendors there 1096 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,200 providing uh 1097 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:38,400 you know, free things from, you know, 1098 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:40,560 blood pressure screening to uh 1099 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:43,120 information about uh 1100 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,600 different services in the state uh that 1101 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,560 people can take advantage of. So, it's a 1102 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:49,760 really nice event for Lewes. It's a 1103 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:51,320 Blockhouse Pond. Uh 1104 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:54,160 5:00 to 8:00 1105 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,160 on August 4th. 1106 00:39:55,520 --> 00:40:01,120 » In Rehoboth, we unfortunately do not. I 1107 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:02,600 tried early on to have that, and we just 1108 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:05,440 the community most of it was rental 1109 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,840 property at the time. Um and we just 1110 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,600 didn't get the buy-in from community. 1111 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:11,040 So, it was a lot of just visitors or 1112 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,880 whatever, um which is great, but um we 1113 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:15,520 had so many other events going on at 1114 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:17,080 same time with bandstand concerts and 1115 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,920 and all of that. It was just kind of 1116 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,640 adding to some of the chaos and really 1117 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,280 wasn't taking the time to get our 1118 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,840 message out. So, people were coming out, 1119 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:26,440 maybe grabbing some free food or and 1120 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,640 all, which is fine in the product, but 1121 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,240 they really weren't engaging law 1122 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,640 enforcement where we really want to give 1123 00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:34,680 back to. So, we've been trying to other 1124 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,040 smaller events during fall months and 1125 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,640 springs, things like that with our 1126 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:40,800 community. And all and being involved in 1127 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,680 like Camp Rehoboth block parties and 1128 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:45,440 things like that, trying to get 1129 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:47,280 involved. That being said, we do 1130 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,440 recognize the importance of it. So, we 1131 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,680 send officers each year to Lewes, to 1132 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,840 Milton, other departments that are 1133 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,680 having that and help out and things down 1134 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,280 to Ocean View and Bethany, like we'll 1135 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,800 help out at different events. 1136 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,160 » Great. 1137 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,400 Thanks, gentlemen. 1138 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:05,040 Uh again, open the floor 1139 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,880 uh to public comment. 1140 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,760 Seeing no one present, 1141 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,760 I'll make a motion to adjourn. 1142 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,080 » Second. 1143 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,520 » All in favor? 1144 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,440 » I. 1145 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,840 » I. 1146 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,280 » Thank you all. Thanks, everyone for 1147 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:14,760 coming. 1148 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,520 » Thank you. 1149 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,520 » Thank you all. 1150 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,360 » Mhm.