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Hello and welcome to the regular

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business meeting for the District of

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Squamish for Tuesday, March 17th.

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Holland squalan Squamish. As always,

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we're gathered to do our work today on

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the traditional unseated territory of

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the Squamish nation. Please be advised

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this council meeting is being

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livereamed, recorded, and will be

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available to the public to view on the

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District of Squamish website following

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the meeting. If you have concerns,

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please notify the corporate officer

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present at the meeting. In this case,

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that would be Miss Vlon Budau. Um, could

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I have someone move adoption of the

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agenda, please? Moved by councelor

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French, second by councelor Stoner. All

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in favor? Any opposed? Motion carries.

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Thank you. So, our first order of

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business uh is item 31. uh the BC

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Epilepsy Society. Um

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and I believe we have we'll be receiving

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our presentation. Roly. Oh, there you

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are. Hello. Thank you for joining us.

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>> Hello.

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» Hello.

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Good evening, council. I am with the I'm

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the administrative coordinator with the

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BC Epilepsy Society. Unfortunately, our

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executive director, Dietra, was unable

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to speak today with illness. So, I'm

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still grateful for the opportunity to be

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here to rep represent our organization.

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Um, and I just like to thank you guys

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again for the opportunity to speak and

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for the support of epilepsy awareness in

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our community. We truly appreciate the

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leadership and the com commitment to

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help build a more informed and

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supportive um community in Squamish.

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Epilepsy is one of the most common

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neurological conditions affecting

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approximately one in a 100 people. This

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means that here in Squamish, many

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individuals and family are living with

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epilepsy and contribute contributing to

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the strength and diversity of this

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community every day. with greater

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awareness and understanding. Um we're

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hoping we can create um an environment

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where people living with epilepsy feel

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supported and empowered and simple

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actions like learning about epilepsy and

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recognizing the uh epilepsy awareness

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day on March 26th will help encourage

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more open conversations making a

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meaningful and lasting impact. Your

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support helps us to build that community

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where people feel confident and safe.

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We're grateful for the partnership and

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the role to help us bring awareness.

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Thank you again for your time and

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support. If anyone has any questions,

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please let me know.

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>> Thank you very much for the

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» Thank you very much for the

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presentation. Council, do we have any

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questions for our guests? We also have

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the proclamation request as it appears

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in the agenda. Um, if we're ready for if

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there's no questions, I'd entertain a

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motion.

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Are you moving uh the recommendation?

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Councelor Pettingill. A second by

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Councelor French. Would you like to

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speak to it, Council Pettingill?

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>> Um, just to say uh thank you for coming

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» Um, just to say uh thank you for coming

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and presenting uh and reminding us about

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this. I think it's always good to keep

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um these things top of mind and uh it's

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a a simple and small gesture we can do

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to help with that. Thank you.

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Thank you. Any other comments on this?

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Um, happy to support this um this uh

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proclamation. I I do think it's as

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councilor Pending said, it's really

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important that we uh even through a

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small gesture like this um uh

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ensure that these these types of things

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uh and particularly EP epilepsy here

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receives the recognition um that it that

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it deserves. there are people living in

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our community and uh with that uh that

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have epilepsy and we may not unless we

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exp are nearby and we experience then

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they experience an an episode it's it's

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unlikely that we would necessarily be

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aware of that. So this is an opportunity

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for us to um uh to show our our support.

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I'm happy to do so. So thank you very

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much and with that I'll call the

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question. All in favor? Motion carries

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unanimously. Thank you so much. Enjoy

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the rest of your evening.

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>> Thank you for your time.

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Thank you. So, next we have the uh

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unscheduled public attendance. This is

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if anyone has a matter they'd like to uh

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have considered by council prior to our

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next meeting. Uh this would be

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opportunity to

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put that forward.

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No takers this evening. So, we'll move

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on. Um we do not have any um public

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hearings, so we're on to the consent

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agenda. Would anyone like to pull

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anything that is in the consent agenda

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or move the consent agenda is the

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alternative? Councelor Stoner,

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the appropriate time. Um, is there

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anyone that would like to remove the

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remainder of the consent agenda? There's

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not much left for those that aren't

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reading the moving council French second

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by councelor Hamilton. All in favor?

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Motion carries. And we'll deal with

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those at the appropriate time later in

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the uh in our agenda. Uh so now we have

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uh consideration of first, second, and

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third reading for the District of

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Squamish in indemnification bylaw number

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3224 2026. And we have our corporate

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officer or director of corporate

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administration uh to present to us.

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Okay. Um, happy to take a quick timeout

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if or a medium length time out if that's

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what's needed. It's coming. Okay.

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So just to buy some time without taking

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a timeout, I'm going to propose we move

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forward to we have a couple adoptions on

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the on the agenda. Uh so that's 7B1 and

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two. Um and as is our common practice,

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we don't have presentation on these.

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These are just these are ready to be

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adopted. All the uh tees have been

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crossed and eyes have been dotted. So um

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could I So the first one is District of

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Squamish zoning bylaw number 22 or 2200

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2011 amendment bylaw and this is uh

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regarding local and liquor primary

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commercial. Moved by councelor French

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second by councelor Hamilton. All in

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favor? Motion carries. Thank you. And

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the the next is District of Commerce

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zoning bylaw number 2200 2011 amendment

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bylaw regarding indoor recreation.

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councelor Hamilton. All in favor. Any

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opposed? Motion carries.

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I hope that we may have bought at least

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some time. We'll come back to There we

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go. Look at that.

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The floor is yours when you're ready.

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Uh good evening council. My name is

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Melissa Bambbleo. I'm the director of

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corporate administration. Uh today I am

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presenting on District of Squamish

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indemnification bylaw number 3224

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2026.

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Uh there were changes made to the bylaw

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this morning, including the correction

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of two typos, including a reference to

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the a specific section in the local

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government act and replacing guilty with

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uh convicted in section 5.1G of the

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bylaw to more to align more closely with

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the local government act language. Uh

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the bylaw has been replaced online and

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is and the current copy is in blue in

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front of council this evening.

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Uh the bylaw in front of council this

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evening uh if it is adopted at a future

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meeting will repeal the current

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indemnification bylaw which was adopted

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in 1998

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and be replaced with the bylaw before

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council right now. Uh the purpose of an

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indemn in of an indemnification bylaw is

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to establish parameters for when the

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district will pay for and defend

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municipal officials, which is defined in

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the bylaw, from legal claims that may

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arise out of the performance of their

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duties or functions on behalf of the

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district. This could include paying for

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legal defense costs, settlements, or

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judgments, or certain penalties related

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to official duties. It does not allow

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for the district to pay for a fine that

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results from a conviction where the

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official was it at fault or had intent

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knowing knowingly violating legislation.

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expectations as to when the district

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must be notified that a legal matter has

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arisen which can be found in section 4.2

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municipal officials will not be

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indemnified under section five of the

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bylaw which include if there is a

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conviction where there is a finding of

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negligence or willful misconduct.

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alignment. The content of the bylaw has

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been drafted to align with language in

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indemnity. The definition of municipal

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official, limits on indemnification for

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the following. When a finding has been

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made related to dishonesty, gross

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negligence, malicious or willful

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misconduct has been made against a

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municipal official. And this is section

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convicted of an offense that is not a

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strict or absolute liability offense.

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the definition of indemnity.

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community charter including in the

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limits of indemnification section

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including breach of confidentiality

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under section 117 and this is section

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5.1E of the bylaw and disqualification

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from holding office under section 111

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section 1.5F of the bylaw.

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And that includes my presentation this

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evening. Thank you.

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presentation. Council questions

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>> Go ahead, Councelor Penning.

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>> So, how does this work with insurance

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companies who would I believe typically

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be the ultimate payers? Were there a a

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judgment against someone who is

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I I presume covered by this? uh like

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does the fact that we have this bylaw

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then obligate the insurance companies to

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provide that to anyone in our an

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organization they're insuring or is it

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still ultimately up to an insurance

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how things proceed or what happens or

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>> uh through the mayor u the so the

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» uh through the mayor u the so the

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district's municipal insurance company

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is the municipal insurance association

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of BC and they handle very specific

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claims for us. And when a claim is

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passed to MIABC,

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they handle every aspect of that claim.

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So, prior to accepting a claim, they

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make a determination whether it fits

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within the scope of our municipal

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coverage.

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If a situation was to arise where there

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may be a conflict with our bylaw, I'm

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sure they would be flagging that in

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advance of accepting the um accepting

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the claim or uh representing the

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district. Uh but I have not seen a

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specific example like the one you've

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referenced.

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» Thank you. You have a followup. Yeah,

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just sort of big picture wine because I

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I had been I had the impression that as

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elected officials we in particular had

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very little protection against even our

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own mistakes. Um uh this implies there's

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something more. Uh, am I correct though

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in thinking that um this doesn't really

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I I guess maybe can you just speak a

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little more to sort of where there is

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some protection available if if some

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like it's clear if you do something

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willfully wrong you're not protected but

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if you're sort of doing things with the

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best intent best of intentions on what

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are the still the limitations in this

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» uh through the mayor, I actually brought

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a couple of examples that I can speak to

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and hopefully that will help frame it a

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little bit because it to be honest, the

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language in the legislation isn't always

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clear and it is confusing and I had to

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do a fair bit of research to wrap my

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head around this. So, uh if you'll be

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patient with me, I'll find a few

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examples here and read them out.

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Uh the first example is a municipal

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official is convicted of knowingly

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falsifying records. So in this situation

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uh this is a is uh the municipality

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cannot pay the fine. So if they were

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convicted and there was a fine issued

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the municipality could not pay the fine.

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However,

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it could the council does or council and

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the district does have discretion to pay

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some of the legal fees that may be

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associated in the determination of

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whether there was a conviction.

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Does that makes some clarity? Okay, I'll

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go into the next one. Uh, a counselor is

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fined under an environmental statute for

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an inadvertent regulatory breach despite

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acting responsibly. So, there's another

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fine issued in this case. Uh, there was

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uh there wasn't intent, so the

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municipality may pay the fine.

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Does that provide some clarity? Is it

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more confusing?

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>> Like any good example, it may have

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» Like any good example, it may have

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triggered a few questions. So we'll I'll

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go back to councelor Pettingill.

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>> Yeah, that one is a little confusing in

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» Yeah, that one is a little confusing in

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that we have no individual ability to do

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an environmental action or whatever

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direct one. So the the word a counselor

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like is implicit and this is actually

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the council and their majority vote and

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and it's the the group that's protected

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or is there some case where an

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individual is is somehow

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which seems like an impossible

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situation? You could replace counselor

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with municipal official as defined by

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the bylaw,

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>> but you're right. No individual

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» but you're right. No individual

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counselor has a specific authority to

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take an individual action. So that would

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likely be the counselors in that would

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likely be a multiple. I share your

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assessment with that. Um

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I was curious I thank you for the

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examples. Those were help. Yeah. Well, I

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know I know it's a it's it is a

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challenging

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topic. I think it's just got a lot of

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new a lot of whatifs is to it. But I was

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wondering you sorry in your presentation

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it spoke to how it relates to community

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charter and and legislation broadly. Um

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how does where does the code of conduct

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sit in this? Like I understand there's

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these, you know, if there's a fine paid

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or a guilty or someone, you know, in

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other jurisdictions, but was there a

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lens to do we rely on those

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uh mechanisms for this or does the code

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of conduct bump into it feels like we're

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starting to that there's some overlap

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potentially? How are we thinking about

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that or or can you add some can you

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orient me on that?

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>> That's a good question. Um the

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» That's a good question. Um the

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indemnification bylaw is specifically if

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there's a legal claim against the

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district. So it's moved past the point

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where

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uh council in the district is dealing

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with um a breach of

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conduct in house and it's moved into the

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legal fear sphere. So it there is a

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fairly clear line between them I would

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say.

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>> Okay. Thank you. That's helpful.

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» Okay. Thank you. That's helpful.

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Um, councelor Hamilton. Yeah, go ahead.

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>> Yeah, thanks very much. It's interesting

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» Yeah, thanks very much. It's interesting

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that the the this bylaw has an

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interesting combination of council that

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the municipal officer includes council

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and employees of the municipality.

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Um and in terms of municipal employees,

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uh I can certainly I see the logic uh

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for in part three

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um

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the determination of payment of the

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indemnification amounts

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um is determined by the chief

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administrative officer, the CIO um and

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the CIO being the head of the district.

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That makes sense in terms of the

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municipal officers. Does that make sense

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as well in terms of council?

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Does that is there um

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are there other instances where the CAO

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has determination

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over council? When I think of the code

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of conduct bylaw, for example, council

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regulates, council's

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um within that bylaw, council makes

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decisions. So I guess the question is

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within other indemnification

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bylaws,

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is it common practice to have the CEO uh

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be a deciding uh uh determinated

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determinating body on damages, awards,

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fines, penalties, and what reasonable

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costs will be paid um for council.

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Many of the other bylaws that we looked

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at when we were doing the research for

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this left that more open-ended. It ended

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at as uh out of pockets out of pocket

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costs and uh

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some included

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the word reasonable. However, there we

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didn't find any that specified a

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specific individual that would determine

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that. I will say though that we do have

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in the code of conduct bylaw, the CEO is

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the person that makes determinations

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about um legal fees. If council needs to

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uh seek legal advice, it needs to go

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through the CEO. So, we do have a little

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bit of a precedent there for that.

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Okay.

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So what role

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um

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what role does council play if any in

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determining

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whether council

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pursues or

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um determines the level of

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indemnification

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that another counselor will be

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um awarded and awarded isn't the right

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word here, but what determining that

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reasonable level of cost because at some

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point in time somebody might get into a

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legal dispute and

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more and more money might need to go

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down that road.

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Does council play any role in that or

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does that sit purely with the CEO?

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uh can if there is a legal claim that

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fits the parameters of the bylaw if it

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is adopted uh all the costs associated

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with that in within reason would be

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covered because of the indemnification

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bylaw. So there isn't a

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threshold for when a legal claim needs

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to come to council for approval. I will

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say that if a legal claim doesn't fit

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the parameters of this bylaw,

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council has the discretion through the

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local government act to um direct direct

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that the legal claim is indemnified

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through council resolution.

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» Okay. Thanks. I didn't realize that

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overarching piece of the local

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government act. That's good to know. And

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yeah, the my my question my my point

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here is that discussion of what's

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reasonable and the determination of what

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is reasonable when the C when a CEO and

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this is not about our CEO. This is about

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power dynamics that get set up within

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councils and between the CEO because the

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CEO can be um

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either um they can be put in a position

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where

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they are undermined by their council and

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a CIO can undermine their council. That

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power dynamic can happen. Um, and I'm

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reflecting here on whether this can

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contribute to that power dynamic in a

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potential sticky sticky situation. Um,

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but I don't think I have a better

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solution. Um, and with the coverage of

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the local government act that the

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council can step in and indemnify, I'm

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comfortable with the CIO being in this

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role here.

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>> Would you like to comment on that, Miss

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» Would you like to comment on that, Miss

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Gundy or?

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>> Sure. Yeah. And just before we do that,

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» Sure. Yeah. And just before we do that,

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we'll take a there's been a an ask for a

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quick timeout. I just um in that section

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where it does say reasonable. I I've

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always ch I know the language is there

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to provide some flexibility and I just

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but for

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all the for all the reasons I I just

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wondered about the use of reasonable

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because it doesn't imply that everyone

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involved in it is is that. So, I'm just

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curious on if that's the best the best

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um language for that. Although, I

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understand why you'd want to put some

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reasonable limits on it. It's just hard

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to see it framed that way. So, um I'll

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wait for a reply till after after this,

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but maybe I'll just flush council, see

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if there's any other questions just to

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make sure that we're um we don't require

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another timeout on this matter. Go

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ahead, councelor Penning. Yeah, just

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sort of thinking of um I guess my

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understanding of conflict of interest is

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it's on us individually to decide and

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declare if we have a conflict. If we're

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unsure, it's on us to individually seek

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and and pay for legal counsel to get

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that advice if we feel we're we're

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unsure. Um, and whether we do or not,

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uh, if we proceed in good faith and

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believing we're doing the right thing,

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but then it turns out we were actually

548
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offside. I had previously understood, we

549
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:12,799
would bear all the consequences

550
00:26:12,799 --> 00:26:15,440
individually of that. When I see this,

551
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,080
this makes it seems like, you know, you

552
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,159
could sort of, well, I'm doing the best

553
00:26:20,159 --> 00:26:22,400
I can. I don't have money to to have a

554
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,720
lawyer, and I'll be indemnified at the

555
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,960
end of the day if it doesn't work out. I

556
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,159
don't think that's what this is trying

557
00:26:28,159 --> 00:26:29,840
to say, but that's what it seems to say.

558
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,760
I'm just I'm looking for a way to

559
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,919
understand why that case would be

560
00:26:35,919 --> 00:26:38,159
excluded from indemnification if you

561
00:26:38,159 --> 00:26:42,159
were acting in the best, you know, with

562
00:26:42,159 --> 00:26:45,120
the best of intents, but it went south.

563
00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:47,120
Why would this like I don't in the

564
00:26:47,120 --> 00:26:49,200
exclusions, it's not clear or the limits

565
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:58,310
why that would not be covered.

566
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,559
Sorry, I I I'm not following the

567
00:27:00,559 --> 00:27:02,960
question. Could you provide the specific

568
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,120
section or

569
00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:07,669
>> Well, I guess sort of say, you know,

570
00:27:07,669 --> 00:27:07,679
» Well, I guess sort of say, you know,

571
00:27:07,679 --> 00:27:11,200
there's an issue comes up. I decided to

572
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,360
vote on it or do whatever. I I thought I

573
00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:14,880
didn't have a conflict of interest, so I

574
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,279
was proceeding what I thought was

575
00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:19,120
correctly. Turns out at the end of the

576
00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:21,919
day, uh someone some court or whatever

577
00:27:21,919 --> 00:27:24,080
body decides I was wrong. there's some

578
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,600
liability coming to me. I had thought I

579
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,120
was stuck with that liability before

580
00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:34,720
today. Um reading hearing the discussion

581
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,360
like when I look at the the limits this

582
00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:39,200
seems to say I would be covered. I would

583
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,279
be indemnified in that case but I don't

584
00:27:41,279 --> 00:27:43,919
think that's what this is saying. So I'm

585
00:27:43,919 --> 00:27:46,320
trying to understand why is that case

586
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:47,909
>> Could you point to the side of this

587
00:27:47,909 --> 00:27:47,919
» Could you point to the side of this

588
00:27:47,919 --> 00:27:49,830
>> sorry could you just point to the

589
00:27:49,830 --> 00:27:49,840
» sorry could you just point to the

590
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,080
section that you've is that just sort of

591
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,679
a general takeaway or is there a

592
00:27:53,679 --> 00:27:55,360
specific section

593
00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:57,110
>> the limits on indemnification there's

594
00:27:57,110 --> 00:27:57,120
» the limits on indemnification there's

595
00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:59,919
nothing that says a counselor uh found

596
00:27:59,919 --> 00:28:02,880
offside on conflict of interest is not

597
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,480
indemn or does not qualify for

598
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,559
indemnification there's nothing along

599
00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:09,600
that sense so I'm trying to understand

600
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,919
um why again it's my understanding

601
00:28:13,919 --> 00:28:15,440
this case would not be covered by this,

602
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:16,720
but I don't.

603
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,310
>> Okay. So, we have a question around

604
00:28:18,310 --> 00:28:18,320
» Okay. So, we have a question around

605
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:19,760
conflict of interest. We can put this in

606
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,520
the after timeout. I don't know if that

607
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,159
or do you have a reply for the for how

608
00:28:24,159 --> 00:28:26,960
that fits or would you like to group

609
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,240
that with the timeout matters?

610
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,830
>> Group that with the timeout matters and

611
00:28:31,830 --> 00:28:31,840
» Group that with the timeout matters and

612
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,360
I'll have a crafted answer.

613
00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:34,710
>> Okay. No, that's fine. And then I've got

614
00:28:34,710 --> 00:28:34,720
» Okay. No, that's fine. And then I've got

615
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,720
Councelor Stoner and then I'd like then

616
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,640
we'll we'll go to the staff timeout.

617
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,399
We'll come back for another pass at

618
00:28:40,399 --> 00:28:42,720
this. Councelor Stoner, go ahead. Yeah,

619
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,399
thanks to the chair. I think just I

620
00:28:44,399 --> 00:28:46,880
wanted to add some reflections on the

621
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,880
word reasonable which I appreciate is

622
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,880
not defined um and is really difficult

623
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,200
to define especially in this context. I

624
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,480
think um from a process in a procedure

625
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,480
perspective I think reasonable is often

626
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,080
defined when you go out and seek

627
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,440
um like quotes for a legal cost for

628
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,039
example. And so I think adding some

629
00:29:07,039 --> 00:29:08,799
discretion there by using the word

630
00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:11,360
reasonable I think is fine. I think in

631
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,279
our procurement processes, we have ways

632
00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:15,120
to guard rail against what is

633
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,159
reasonable. Um, and I just think it like

634
00:29:18,159 --> 00:29:20,880
taking out that word makes this bylaw

635
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,159
really challenging to me and trying to

636
00:29:22,159 --> 00:29:23,679
define it, I think, is near impossible.

637
00:29:23,679 --> 00:29:25,200
So, I think there's other components of

638
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,039
our process in our system that help

639
00:29:27,039 --> 00:29:30,640
guardrail the definition of reasonable.

640
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,269
>> Thank you for that. Um, and the last one

641
00:29:33,269 --> 00:29:33,279
» Thank you for that. Um, and the last one

642
00:29:33,279 --> 00:29:34,880
of the other pieces that I have is just

643
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,640
I I I do want to ask a question around

644
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,559
the uh in section 5.2F to F is it says

645
00:29:40,559 --> 00:29:42,399
the provisions of this bylaw shall not

646
00:29:42,399 --> 00:29:44,480
apply to a motion of center by the

647
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:45,760
district of Squamish Council. So I'm

648
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,679
just curious on how that interplays here

649
00:29:47,679 --> 00:29:49,840
and to I was expecting that as part of

650
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,919
the answer from the code of conduct

651
00:29:51,919 --> 00:29:55,919
piece maybe. So I you know because uh

652
00:29:55,919 --> 00:29:57,919
censure is something that could flow

653
00:29:57,919 --> 00:29:59,760
from the code of conduct. So that's sort

654
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,200
of where I was one of the things I was

655
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,480
trying to get at with that question but

656
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,640
I'll leave that till after the time the

657
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,320
timeout. Anything else before we go?

658
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,559
Councelor Hamilton, go ahead.

659
00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:10,870
>> Maybe just confirming. So I read through

660
00:30:10,870 --> 00:30:10,880
» Maybe just confirming. So I read through

661
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,760
the LGA and I think uh Miss Vonlutoo,

662
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,919
the section you were referring to was

663
00:30:15,919 --> 00:30:18,960
section uh 742

664
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,880
A2,

665
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,880
the municipal officials ability. If you

666
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,240
could just confirm that on the timeout

667
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,279
and then we'll be on the same page.

668
00:30:27,279 --> 00:30:33,510
>> That's 5.3 in the uh B.

669
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,120
We're going to grant the timeout and

670
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,960
then we will uh we'll address that

671
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,159
because there's an easy answer for that

672
00:30:38,159 --> 00:30:41,600
one. So, um I feel like five minutes is

673
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,080
the minimum for for for this. Would you

674
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,000
like 10?

675
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,440
10. Let's take 10. We'll take a

676
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,720
10-minute break and we'll reconvene at

677
00:30:50,720 --> 00:40:03,030
uh 6:42.

678
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,960
All right, welcome back. We're back from

679
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,800
a quick um timeout for staff. So, I will

680
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:13,920
go to to to CEO Glendy.

681
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,430
>> Thank you. through the mayor. Uh I will

682
00:40:15,430 --> 00:40:15,440
» Thank you. through the mayor. Uh I will

683
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,160
answer the question about the CEO um

684
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,839
being

685
00:40:19,839 --> 00:40:21,760
uh the determiner of the reasonable

686
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,160
costs in section 3. Uh it's a great

687
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,560
question. Um

688
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,400
the purpose of that is financial

689
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,520
control. And so the suggestion is to

690
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,920
prevent it being a one-on-one with CEO

691
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,200
and council is to include uh or amend

692
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,520
this bylaw first three readings of the

693
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,079
amendment to include with and CFO and

694
00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:44,160
chief financial officer and then that

695
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:45,920
way there's the a financial control with

696
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,400
a second signature or the second person

697
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,960
vetting the costs that then get approved

698
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,839
by MIBC or not. So that is a solution

699
00:40:53,839 --> 00:40:57,119
for that and that's the answer for that

700
00:40:57,119 --> 00:40:59,839
one and I will do the chair pass it back

701
00:40:59,839 --> 00:41:01,839
to Miss Vonto for the other answers.

702
00:41:01,839 --> 00:41:05,430
>> Okay. So just um on that one does anyone

703
00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:05,440
» Okay. So just um on that one does anyone

704
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,599
have questions about that response and

705
00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:09,280
thank you for the for a suggestion that

706
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:10,960
addresses the concern. I'll just go to

707
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,160
councelor Hamilton. I think it was your

708
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,079
question that sort of took us down this

709
00:41:14,079 --> 00:41:16,800
path.

710
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,630
>> Yeah thanks. Um

711
00:41:20,630 --> 00:41:20,640
» Yeah thanks. Um

712
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,960
I think my concern was in in many ways

713
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,200
addressed by the

714
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,920
clearer understanding of section uh 5.3.

715
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,359
Uh but I do think that uh adding a

716
00:41:33,359 --> 00:41:36,000
signature here or adding a a partner in

717
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,960
the determination uh I think makes the

718
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,640
whole bylaw stronger and makes our

719
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,280
policies and procedures stronger. Uh so

720
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,560
yeah, I would certainly u I'll make a

721
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,000
motion to add that if if needed.

722
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,589
>> Okay, we'll deal with that when we we

723
00:41:51,589 --> 00:41:51,599
» Okay, we'll deal with that when we we

724
00:41:51,599 --> 00:41:54,160
get there. Um thank you for that. Um

725
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,240
anyone else on this particular piece,

726
00:41:56,240 --> 00:41:59,119
Councelor Penning? So does this imply

727
00:41:59,119 --> 00:42:01,839
that as part of our budget uh that

728
00:42:01,839 --> 00:42:05,040
somewhere there's a legal envelope there

729
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,640
going forward we might be a bit more

730
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,960
explicit of like this is the bucket we

731
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,240
have for the CFO and CIO to possibly

732
00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:13,520
address these things for the coming year

733
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:17,040
and so council sort of uh approves an

734
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,319
envelope annually and and then sort of

735
00:42:20,319 --> 00:42:22,720
within that envelope would apply this

736
00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:26,550
bylaw

737
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,680
Oh yeah, whoever would like to speak to

738
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,880
uh I guess how we allocate legal into

739
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,400
our budgeting.

740
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,630
>> Uh

741
00:42:36,630 --> 00:42:36,640
» Uh

742
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,119
corporate uh administration has a

743
00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:42,319
general legal bucket that we uh set

744
00:42:42,319 --> 00:42:44,480
aside annually to cover all legal costs

745
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,720
that are associated with the dis or most

746
00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:48,319
of the legal claims that are associated

747
00:42:48,319 --> 00:42:51,359
with the district. And at the moment

748
00:42:51,359 --> 00:42:54,960
we've never had an issue with uh

749
00:42:54,960 --> 00:43:00,470
overruns from that budget

750
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,400
» and any expenditure even under this

751
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,800
would need to be inside of the budgeted

752
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,760
amount just to state the

753
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,839
further that point. Um any other

754
00:43:09,839 --> 00:43:11,440
questions on on this before we go back

755
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,040
for the answer on the second question

756
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,160
which I'm forgetting what it was at this

757
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,720
point. Oh go ahead councelor son. Uh,

758
00:43:16,720 --> 00:43:18,240
can I just seek some clarity on the

759
00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:19,839
proposed amendment and how that would

760
00:43:19,839 --> 00:43:21,440
intersect with our general procurement

761
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,160
policies and so like there's a threshold

762
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,000
like I don't want to make this an overly

763
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,800
cumbersome process and we already

764
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,200
require multiple signatures on larger

765
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:32,640
expenses. So I'm just curious if this

766
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,400
just feels like a redundancy to an

767
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,760
existing parallel process that would be

768
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,119
highlighted or initiated anyways out of

769
00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:44,150
this.

770
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,280
the current um I'm trying to think of

771
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,839
the bylaw is is it the delegation bylaw

772
00:43:49,839 --> 00:43:53,200
that refers to spending authority

773
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,920
indicates that um all general managers

774
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,440
have a certain threshold which includes

775
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,400
the CFO after which the CEO has

776
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,200
discretion up to basically the budget.

777
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,119
Um, I think if we're talking about

778
00:44:07,119 --> 00:44:09,440
like part of this is essentially what is

779
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,200
reasonable to be indemnified by MIAC or

780
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,640
indemnified by the district. Um, if

781
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,319
there's a concern about a power

782
00:44:18,319 --> 00:44:21,040
discrepancy with the

783
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,839
one person agreeing to the amount, then

784
00:44:23,839 --> 00:44:26,240
adding a second signature provides that

785
00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:28,640
financial control and eliminates that

786
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,800
power discrepancy which with this

787
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,880
particular bylaw doesn't exist in a

788
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,880
process in our procurement policy.

789
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,829
>> Thank you for that context. Um I will go

790
00:44:39,829 --> 00:44:39,839
» Thank you for that context. Um I will go

791
00:44:39,839 --> 00:44:41,599
to staff now to answer on the second

792
00:44:41,599 --> 00:44:43,040
question which I've forgotten what it

793
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,599
was but I'll go to you.

794
00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:47,589
>> Uh the second question I believe was

795
00:44:47,589 --> 00:44:47,599
» Uh the second question I believe was

796
00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:51,760
around conflict of interest and if a

797
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,480
council member would be indemnified if

798
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,560
they inadvertently

799
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,280
have a legal claim arising from a

800
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,319
conflict of interest scenario. Is that

801
00:45:04,319 --> 00:45:07,040
my understand? Is that correct? Uh, I

802
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:08,400
believe councelor Penning, does that

803
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,400
capture your your concern? You're asking

804
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,280
about the about this piece around

805
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,359
conflict.

806
00:45:15,359 --> 00:45:16,390
>> Well, let's take the answer and we'll

807
00:45:16,390 --> 00:45:16,400
» Well, let's take the answer and we'll

808
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:17,920
see if it addresses your concern. Does

809
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,030
that

810
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:21,440
» Okay.

811
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,309
>> Okay. Uh, the first thing I'd like to

812
00:45:24,309 --> 00:45:24,319
» Okay. Uh, the first thing I'd like to

813
00:45:24,319 --> 00:45:26,400
state is that the purpose of the

814
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,720
indemnification bylaw is to protect

815
00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:30,480
officials,

816
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,560
you included, that who are acting in

817
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,520
good faith while doing their jobs.

818
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,680
uh it's to prevent and then some of the

819
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,560
restrictions in the bylaw are to prevent

820
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,640
the use of public money for shielding

821
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:46,640
personal misconduct. So it's I think the

822
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,640
key word around this is acting in good

823
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,880
faith.

824
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,800
Um and then in terms of the conflict of

825
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,839
interest component

826
00:45:55,839 --> 00:45:58,480
the limits on indemnification.

827
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:02,319
So this is what uh the district will not

828
00:46:02,319 --> 00:46:04,400
cover in terms of legal claims and

829
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,800
conflict of interest is not included in

830
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,119
here and it's important to note that

831
00:46:09,119 --> 00:46:11,599
most of these elements except for a

832
00:46:11,599 --> 00:46:14,640
couple are u directly from the

833
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,040
legislation. So council has the

834
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,079
discretion to be more restrictive and

835
00:46:20,079 --> 00:46:22,240
limit more

836
00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:24,079
limit the number of things that will be

837
00:46:24,079 --> 00:46:25,760
covered through the indemnification

838
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,000
bylaw. So, right now, the way it's

839
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,520
written,

840
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,400
conflict of interest claims would likely

841
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,319
be covered. Unless there's a conviction

842
00:46:34,319 --> 00:46:36,880
and there's a fine issued, then the

843
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:41,760
district couldn't pay the fine. Um,

844
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,240
council has the discretion though to

845
00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:47,040
totally eliminate covering conflict of

846
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,359
interest claims that may arise by

847
00:46:49,359 --> 00:46:52,319
including that in this section. Is that

848
00:46:52,319 --> 00:46:53,760
clear?

849
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,069
>> I think so. So I think one of the risks

850
00:46:56,069 --> 00:46:56,079
» I think so. So I think one of the risks

851
00:46:56,079 --> 00:46:59,599
that happens in the in can one of the

852
00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:01,200
risks that exists in these roles is

853
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,520
someone could bring at any point in time

854
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,359
a conflict of interest um matter forward

855
00:47:07,359 --> 00:47:09,040
uh even if it was frivolous I would need

856
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,359
to go through a a legal process and I

857
00:47:11,359 --> 00:47:14,720
think there's a difference between um h

858
00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:19,040
being um having that happen and it

859
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,000
ultimately being not coming to uh being

860
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,599
dismissed or coming to some other

861
00:47:23,599 --> 00:47:25,359
conclusion. usion versus oh yeah there

862
00:47:25,359 --> 00:47:26,319
was a conflict here and there's a

863
00:47:26,319 --> 00:47:27,680
penalty and if there's a penalty then

864
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,520
our indemnification wouldn't apply. Is

865
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,560
that correct?

866
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,150
>> That's my understanding. Yes. So that's

867
00:47:36,150 --> 00:47:36,160
» That's my understanding. Yes. So that's

868
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,599
the sa the safety the safety net here

869
00:47:39,599 --> 00:47:41,680
and I think it's

870
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,800
I think that's reasonable and I think

871
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,400
without that sitting in these seats

872
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,280
becomes even harder than it than it is

873
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:55,359
because we're open to um um to this to

874
00:47:55,359 --> 00:47:59,270
this risk that could just

875
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:00,800
you know I don't know how else to it's

876
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,040
it's it's not appropriate I think to be

877
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,040
exposed to that to that risk unless you

878
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,240
did something that was ultimately found

879
00:48:08,240 --> 00:48:10,480
guilty for and and there's a penalty and

880
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,319
I think that this addresses addresses

881
00:48:12,319 --> 00:48:13,440
that. I'll go to you councelor Penning

882
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,440
then I've got councelor Stoner.

883
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,510
>> Yeah, maybe not a topic of discussion

884
00:48:17,510 --> 00:48:17,520
» Yeah, maybe not a topic of discussion

885
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,520
for tonight but it seems to me it might

886
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,000
make more sense for us to set aside a

887
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:26,319
bit of a funds where if you are unsure

888
00:48:26,319 --> 00:48:29,119
there's some support to get that uh as a

889
00:48:29,119 --> 00:48:31,839
counselor a clear legal advice on

890
00:48:31,839 --> 00:48:33,920
conflict. So you're, you know, you're

891
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,359
not sort of saying, "Oh, maybe I can

892
00:48:35,359 --> 00:48:37,040
take a risk and try and do my best

893
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,200
without a lawyer, which seems to be sort

894
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,480
of where this is pushing us and

895
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,240
hopefully we'll catch it on the back end

896
00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:44,400
as opposed to like actually have a very

897
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,400
high standard and maybe less

898
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,400
indemnification if you're offsite on

899
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,319
conflict because you would have had the

900
00:48:50,319 --> 00:48:52,720
ability to check in with legal at the

901
00:48:52,720 --> 00:48:54,800
start before doing anything wrong." But

902
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,359
I think um yeah, thank you for that. I I

903
00:48:57,359 --> 00:48:59,520
have seen some uh renumeration bylaws

904
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,800
that that include the ability to to use

905
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,359
some discretionary funds for or some

906
00:49:05,359 --> 00:49:10,160
funds for um uh a conflict conflict of

907
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,880
interest consult legal consult or

908
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:13,920
something like that up to a certain

909
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,000
amount. So I think that's where that I

910
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,240
like that suggestion but I think that is

911
00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:20,800
um is is important but is outside of

912
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,720
this obviously it'll interact with this.

913
00:49:22,720 --> 00:49:24,160
Do you have thoughts on this?

914
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,270
>> I do. So, I I don't have the language in

915
00:49:27,270 --> 00:49:27,280
» I do. So, I I don't have the language in

916
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:28,800
front of me exactly, but the code of

917
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,359
conduct bylaw does allow for counselors

918
00:49:31,359 --> 00:49:34,240
to seek approval from the CAO for a

919
00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:35,839
legal opinion if it's related to

920
00:49:35,839 --> 00:49:38,480
conflict of interest. So, that language

921
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,240
is written into the code of conduct by

922
00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:46,150
law and the intention isn't to

923
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,640
have all matters, you know, if they're

924
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,079
if they're tangent tangential,

925
00:49:52,079 --> 00:49:53,760
uh, go for a legal opinion. But if

926
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,520
someone is truly concerned, there is an

927
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,520
avenue through the code of conduct bylaw

928
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,160
to seek a legal opinion that is covered

929
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,319
by the district.

930
00:50:04,319 --> 00:50:07,430
>> Okay. Um, councelor Stoner, I I think

931
00:50:07,430 --> 00:50:07,440
» Okay. Um, councelor Stoner, I I think

932
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,440
you're next to my speaker's list.

933
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,750
>> Yeah. Just trying to consider this

934
00:50:11,750 --> 00:50:11,760
» Yeah. Just trying to consider this

935
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,160
component around conflict of interest on

936
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,760
the limitations list 5.1b

937
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,280
specifically says willfully acted

938
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:20,559
contrary to the terms of their

939
00:50:20,559 --> 00:50:23,119
employment. Um, and I had originally

940
00:50:23,119 --> 00:50:25,280
flagged that because that's employment

941
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,559
is generally a difficult word for those

942
00:50:28,559 --> 00:50:30,079
on this side of the table because we're

943
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:32,240
not technically employees.

944
00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:36,480
Um, and so I wonder if it's worth adding

945
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,880
in a bullet around like willfully acted

946
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:40,640
contrary to the terms of their oath of

947
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,920
office or in contrary to the community

948
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,119
charter or the code of conduct to kind

949
00:50:47,119 --> 00:50:48,880
of capture

950
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,359
that component. And I I don't know if

951
00:50:51,359 --> 00:50:53,760
I'm ready to propose that today off the

952
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,119
fly because I haven't thought through

953
00:50:55,119 --> 00:50:56,960
the potential negative implications

954
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:58,480
thereof.

955
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,599
Um but I wonder if there's if staff have

956
00:51:01,599 --> 00:51:03,119
any thoughts around that like weighing

957
00:51:03,119 --> 00:51:06,559
of contrary or like willfully acted

958
00:51:06,559 --> 00:51:07,599
contrary to the terms of their

959
00:51:07,599 --> 00:51:10,880
employment and how that can be reflected

960
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,280
or if it is already reflected in the

961
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,240
other language there for council members

962
00:51:16,240 --> 00:51:23,990
who are not employees.

963
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:32,069
Uh the number was 5.1B.

964
00:51:32,079 --> 00:51:32,559
» I don't know.

965
00:51:32,559 --> 00:51:34,790
>> I mean I do think that 5.1A maybe just

966
00:51:34,790 --> 00:51:34,800
» I mean I do think that 5.1A maybe just

967
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,280
does it like been guilty of dishonesty,

968
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,119
gross negligence, malicious or willful

969
00:51:39,119 --> 00:51:42,480
misconduct is maybe sufficient.

970
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:47,109
Um,

971
00:51:47,119 --> 00:51:48,640
but that's maybe more for my council

972
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,359
colleagues to consider if they feel like

973
00:51:51,359 --> 00:51:53,119
that is sufficient and strong enough

974
00:51:53,119 --> 00:51:55,119
given the other avenues that we have as

975
00:51:55,119 --> 00:51:57,119
well with code of conduct.

976
00:51:57,119 --> 00:51:57,750
>> Oh,

977
00:51:57,750 --> 00:51:57,760
» Oh,

978
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,510
>> layered in here.

979
00:51:59,510 --> 00:51:59,520
» layered in here.

980
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,990
>> Uh, yeah, when I was reading that that

981
00:52:01,990 --> 00:52:02,000
» Uh, yeah, when I was reading that that

982
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,480
this document that piece felt like it

983
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,400
didn't apply to me. it applied to the

984
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,599
the employee piece, but there's also

985
00:52:09,599 --> 00:52:11,359
nothing that really separates out those

986
00:52:11,359 --> 00:52:14,400
categories in the document itself. So,

987
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,559
is that sort of the in the intent there?

988
00:52:16,559 --> 00:52:18,800
It's not meant to cover

989
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,559
I know I agree with the spirit of it,

990
00:52:20,559 --> 00:52:22,800
but just the letter of it really seems

991
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,880
to speak more towards employees than um

992
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,200
elected officials.

993
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,630
>> Through the mayor, I would agree that it

994
00:52:28,630 --> 00:52:28,640
» Through the mayor, I would agree that it

995
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,160
speaks more towards employees than

996
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:31,920
elected officials and there is a

997
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,599
differentiation there.

998
00:52:35,599 --> 00:52:38,640
Okay. And I don't think that this is a

999
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:42,160
these matters are large enough uh

1000
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:43,920
or or that we need two separate like we

1001
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,680
don't need two separate versions of this

1002
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,079
to cover like to parse that out. I think

1003
00:52:48,079 --> 00:52:50,319
this makes good sense to me that some

1004
00:52:50,319 --> 00:52:52,319
pieces the wording is just not for us.

1005
00:52:52,319 --> 00:52:54,880
The wordings for staff. Um any other

1006
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,440
questions

1007
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,400
on this?

1008
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:01,920
Um

1009
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:03,359
I'm going to look to councelor Hamilton.

1010
00:53:03,359 --> 00:53:06,000
I think we might be ready for a motion

1011
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,480
that may

1012
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,910
>> amendment. So I will um move the staff

1013
00:53:11,910 --> 00:53:11,920
» amendment. So I will um move the staff

1014
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,440
recommendation that the district of

1015
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,480
Squamish identification bylaw be given

1016
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,000
first,

1017
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,160
second and third readings with the

1018
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,880
addition of

1019
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,559
uh

1020
00:53:24,559 --> 00:53:29,119
and CFO or and chief financial officer

1021
00:53:29,119 --> 00:53:31,520
after chief administrative officer in

1022
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:43,270
section three.

1023
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,520
Okay. Um, are you seconding that that

1024
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,720
motion? And um I like to minute taker.

1025
00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:51,119
Does that was that clear? Okay. Uh, go

1026
00:53:51,119 --> 00:53:53,200
ahead, counselor.

1027
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,990
>> Thanks very much. Um,

1028
00:53:55,990 --> 00:53:56,000
» Thanks very much. Um,

1029
00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:00,240
this the indemnification bylaw. Uh, I

1030
00:54:00,240 --> 00:54:02,160
think this is a really important piece

1031
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,119
of our municipal framework. Uh, and like

1032
00:54:05,119 --> 00:54:07,520
so many things in my first term here on

1033
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,319
council, um, you didn't really didn't

1034
00:54:10,319 --> 00:54:11,920
really reflect on how important these

1035
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,160
things are until you read it in the

1036
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,480
bylaw and think about all of the ways

1037
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:22,079
that things can go, um, uh, sideways for

1038
00:54:22,079 --> 00:54:24,800
for all kinds of various reasons. And I

1039
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,920
think it's important that we have um a

1040
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,839
bylaw that helps us and supports

1041
00:54:31,839 --> 00:54:34,559
employees and counselors in the event

1042
00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:39,280
that there is some under the honest and

1043
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,760
um in under the honest carrying out of

1044
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:45,920
their duties uh happen to fall into uh

1045
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,480
some kind of legal dispute. Um and then

1046
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,119
if they are guilty of those uh offenses

1047
00:54:51,119 --> 00:54:53,520
that they are held uh to account. I

1048
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:54,880
think it's important that we have that

1049
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,640
and I absolutely recognize it's

1050
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:58,480
difficult to define those things and

1051
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,480
that's why we're here tonight and I

1052
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,480
think this bylaw does a pretty good job

1053
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:06,960
of defining them as best we can. Thanks.

1054
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,470
>> Thank you. Other comment I'll go to the

1055
00:55:08,470 --> 00:55:08,480
» Thank you. Other comment I'll go to the

1056
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,000
secondary and then I'll go around. Go

1057
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,160
ahead.

1058
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,119
Uh it's important that bylaws like this

1059
00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:19,839
get regular review and um I'm happy that

1060
00:55:19,839 --> 00:55:22,880
uh this one is in front of us getting

1061
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,440
the modernization that um it's being

1062
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:29,680
given and a little bit of um extra

1063
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,800
spice. Thank you um councelor Hamilton

1064
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,800
and and the rest of council for the

1065
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,040
discussion to um to get us to the place

1066
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,280
we're recognizing adding the CFO in

1067
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,800
section 3 is um a prudent thing to do.

1068
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,000
Um and um thank you staff for the good

1069
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,319
work to get this in front of us.

1070
00:55:48,319 --> 00:55:50,150
>> Thank you councelor Steart.

1071
00:55:50,150 --> 00:55:50,160
» Thank you councelor Steart.

1072
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:51,670
>> Yeah, thank you the chair. Happy to

1073
00:55:51,670 --> 00:55:51,680
» Yeah, thank you the chair. Happy to

1074
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,599
support the motion on the floor uh and

1075
00:55:53,599 --> 00:55:56,079
the updated bylaw in front of us. I

1076
00:55:56,079 --> 00:55:57,359
think it's important to note that this

1077
00:55:57,359 --> 00:55:59,440
is not necessarily new identification

1078
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,599
that we're providing to council and

1079
00:56:01,599 --> 00:56:04,240
staff. It's an update to a bylaw that is

1080
00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:06,480
was originally written in 1998 and

1081
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,079
brings it, as councelor French said, up

1082
00:56:08,079 --> 00:56:09,839
to more modern standards and reflects

1083
00:56:09,839 --> 00:56:11,200
the current wording in the local

1084
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:12,319
government act and the community

1085
00:56:12,319 --> 00:56:15,119
charter. Um, so I think this is just

1086
00:56:15,119 --> 00:56:17,200
good prudence on our part to make sure

1087
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,520
that our bylaws are up to date and

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00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,160
reflective of current practices.

1089
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,230
>> Thank you for that, Councelor Penning.

1090
00:56:24,230 --> 00:56:24,240
» Thank you for that, Councelor Penning.

1091
00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:25,839
Yeah, I think I'm going to support this.

1092
00:56:25,839 --> 00:56:27,599
I think I'm I'm a bit intrigued by my

1093
00:56:27,599 --> 00:56:29,520
colleagues comment, you know, whether or

1094
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,480
not we would limit indemnification for

1095
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,160
when there's a code of conduct or oath

1096
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:35,920
of office violation, those two in

1097
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:39,680
particular. Um, and I guess, you know,

1098
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,680
part of me is like, yes, if you've

1099
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,760
willfully violated those things, I don't

1100
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,799
think we should be indemnifying you, but

1101
00:56:46,799 --> 00:56:48,960
I'm not sure there's a case where you

1102
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,119
only violated those where you would need

1103
00:56:51,119 --> 00:56:53,280
indemnifica. like it may be a

1104
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,240
non-existent use case. And so that's why

1105
00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:57,680
I'm not sure if that's one to push on,

1106
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,240
but um I'll just sort of flag and maybe

1107
00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:02,640
if staff has a moment to sort of see is

1108
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,119
this even a real thing because I I do

1109
00:57:05,119 --> 00:57:06,960
feel a bit uncomfortable with the idea

1110
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,359
of I guess I'm looking for some

1111
00:57:09,359 --> 00:57:11,440
alignment like if you've acted contrary

1112
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,599
to the terms of your employment or your

1113
00:57:13,599 --> 00:57:17,040
oath of office or your code of conduct

1114
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:20,160
maybe makes a little more sense. Um, I

1115
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:21,680
guess I'll leave it there for now, but

1116
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,359
that's the one piece I'm struggling with

1117
00:57:23,359 --> 00:57:25,119
a little bit.

1118
00:57:25,119 --> 00:57:28,069
>> Thank you. Any other comments? Um, just

1119
00:57:28,069 --> 00:57:28,079
» Thank you. Any other comments? Um, just

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00:57:28,079 --> 00:57:31,359
in in reply, I think the um uh the

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00:57:31,359 --> 00:57:33,760
answers I I for for me personally, the

1122
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,520
the answers that I received from staff

1123
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,040
were this is really that external thing.

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00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,359
So, when it goes past a code of conduct

1125
00:57:39,359 --> 00:57:41,119
and I think if you violate your oath of

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00:57:41,119 --> 00:57:42,799
office, it's these other processes that

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00:57:42,799 --> 00:57:45,440
would do that would determine that. So,

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00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,920
um I'm I'm comfortable with where we

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00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,440
are. I do think that um as councelor

1130
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:55,440
Stoner um stated uh this is a an update

1131
00:57:55,440 --> 00:58:00,880
to a very old uh bylaw and the um the

1132
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,119
legislation that it relates to has has

1133
00:58:03,119 --> 00:58:04,640
changed in that time and this is a

1134
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:08,000
modernization. I think it's important to

1135
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,040
um for folks to to understand that this

1136
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:15,760
isn't this isn't about creating a a

1137
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,599
shield for elected officials that have

1138
00:58:17,599 --> 00:58:19,920
done something that is off that is

1139
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:24,480
offside or in this case illegal. Uh by

1140
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,680
um uh it's about ensuring that we uh

1141
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:31,359
that these seats are and these roles are

1142
00:58:31,359 --> 00:58:32,720
reasonable things that people could be

1143
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,319
expected to participate in. And I think

1144
00:58:34,319 --> 00:58:36,160
without the reasonable protections that

1145
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,160
this provides, I would have a very hard

1146
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,920
time um sitting in these in these seats

1147
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,400
uh without these these protections. But

1148
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,799
again, this does not provide uh

1149
00:58:46,799 --> 00:58:49,760
protections um uh where folks have

1150
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:54,240
clearly gone into the uh um uh clearly

1151
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,599
offside. Uh so happy to to support this

1152
00:58:57,599 --> 00:59:02,160
and um I do think that after uh if this

1153
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:05,200
when this gets used I would expect to

1154
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,119
I'm happy that it sat for so long in so

1155
00:59:07,119 --> 00:59:08,400
much as it doesn't feel like it's been

1156
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,480
used very often. So, I'd imagine that

1157
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,319
going forward if this does get used that

1158
00:59:12,319 --> 00:59:15,680
that um it continues to be to be refined

1159
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,680
uh to ensure that it's not that it's

1160
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:21,040
performing its duty and um and not more

1161
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,200
than it's intended to, which is the

1162
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:24,960
which I think is really important. With

1163
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:26,160
that, I'll call the question. All in

1164
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:27,680
favor?

1165
00:59:27,680 --> 01:00:15,109
Motion carries unanimously. Thank you.

1166
01:00:15,119 --> 01:00:16,960
So, our next order of business is

1167
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,920
section uh 8A1

1168
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:21,920
uh landback task force terms of

1169
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,119
reference and appointments. So, staff

1170
01:00:25,119 --> 01:00:26,640
are just getting set up for the

1171
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,880
presentation and we'll get underway when

1172
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:50,309
they're ready to do so.

1173
01:00:50,319 --> 01:00:52,880
The floor is yours when you're ready.

1174
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:54,549
>> Uh, thank you very much to the chair.

1175
01:00:54,549 --> 01:00:54,559
» Uh, thank you very much to the chair.

1176
01:00:54,559 --> 01:00:57,599
Good evening, council public who uh are

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01:00:57,599 --> 01:00:59,760
watching online and in the audience. My

1178
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:01,440
name is Linda Glende. I'm the chief

1179
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:02,960
administrative officer here at the

1180
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:06,400
district. Uh I am joined by Ms. Asia

1181
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,319
Peterson who will introduce herself in a

1182
01:01:08,319 --> 01:01:11,040
moment and we are presenting about the

1183
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,599
landback task force which is a priority

1184
01:01:13,599 --> 01:01:15,359
activity in the memorandum of

1185
01:01:15,359 --> 01:01:19,520
understanding with Squamish Nation.

1186
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,680
Hello um mayor and council. My name is

1187
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:23,440
Asia Peterson and I'm the projects and

1188
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,640
research coordinator. privileged to be

1189
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:28,559
here tonight and honored to be working

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01:01:28,559 --> 01:01:30,319
on the traditional unseated territory of

1191
01:01:30,319 --> 01:01:33,990
the Squamish people.

1192
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,720
Thank you. So, as Linda mentioned, we

1193
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:38,880
are here tonight to present on the

1194
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,359
proposed terms of reference and to seek

1195
01:01:41,359 --> 01:01:42,960
three appointments to the landback task

1196
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:46,000
force. On March 4th, Squamish Netian

1197
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:47,680
Council approved the terms of reference

1198
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:49,760
that you'll see and appointed three of

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01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:51,200
their own council members to join the

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01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:55,359
task force as well. Next, Uh just a bit

1201
01:01:55,359 --> 01:01:56,799
of background on this report that I'll

1202
01:01:56,799 --> 01:01:59,920
highlight. In 2018, council formally

1203
01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:02,559
recognized the United N um nations

1204
01:02:02,559 --> 01:02:04,799
declaration on the rights of indigenous

1205
01:02:04,799 --> 01:02:07,200
people, otherwise known as UNRIP. And in

1206
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:08,799
building on our own relationship with

1207
01:02:08,799 --> 01:02:12,079
Squamish Nation in 2023, council signed

1208
01:02:12,079 --> 01:02:15,280
the Wima Squomish Protocol Agreement,

1209
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,200
which led to the development and signing

1210
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:18,880
of the memorandum of understanding

1211
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,839
between the two governments in 2025. So

1212
01:02:21,839 --> 01:02:24,160
this built on a long um history between

1213
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:25,920
the partnership of the partnership with

1214
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,160
Squamish Nation and was a significant

1215
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,240
step forward in our rec reconciliation

1216
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,880
journey. The establishment of a landback

1217
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,359
task force was identified as a priority

1218
01:02:35,359 --> 01:02:40,630
activity in theou.

1219
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,520
In both the protocol agreement and theou

1220
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:45,280
principles are outlined to help guide

1221
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,200
this work in an intentional way. So I

1222
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:48,559
just wanted to highlight them here

1223
01:02:48,559 --> 01:02:51,760
before we begin. Listen and engage.

1224
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,079
Follow the ways of the Skomish.

1225
01:02:54,079 --> 01:02:56,319
Genuinely care. Learn the advice of the

1226
01:02:56,319 --> 01:02:58,480
Skomeish. The people go through it

1227
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,000
together.

1228
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:01,599
And protect the rights and title of the

1229
01:03:01,599 --> 01:03:04,400
Skomeish.

1230
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,160
So before we review the details of the

1231
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,079
terms of reference, I wanted to take a

1232
01:03:08,079 --> 01:03:09,520
minute to highlight the concept of

1233
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,160
landback. This is an intentional term

1234
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,240
that we use. Landback is a

1235
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,400
reconciliationdriven initiative that

1236
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,400
acknowledges the impacts of colonization

1237
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,359
on indigenous people. It aims to restore

1238
01:03:21,359 --> 01:03:23,920
governance, stewardship, and cultural

1239
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,960
connections to land. So in this context,

1240
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,839
landback is referenced in theou and it

1241
01:03:29,839 --> 01:03:31,760
means exploring possibilities for the

1242
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,240
return or the co-management of public

1243
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,880
lands in a way in a way that respects

1244
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:38,880
Squamish nation rights and title.

1245
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:40,480
Landback is not a threat to private

1246
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:42,960
property. It's about reconciliation and

1247
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:44,960
moving forward together. It's not about

1248
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:48,870
exclusion.

1249
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:50,480
Um, so in turning to the terms of

1250
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:52,559
reference, as I mentioned earlier, the

1251
01:03:52,559 --> 01:03:53,680
task force will have three

1252
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,680
representatives from each government.

1253
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:57,440
Squamish Nation appointed all three of

1254
01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,280
the Squamish Valley counselors earlier

1255
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:02,160
this month. Diana Lewis, Anthony Joseph,

1256
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:04,640
and Johnny Williams. The terms of

1257
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:06,319
reference outlines that this is a

1258
01:04:06,319 --> 01:04:08,480
timelmited task force. It will exist

1259
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,359
until 2028 or until project deliverables

1260
01:04:11,359 --> 01:04:13,520
have been met and the task force will

1261
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:17,119
meet on a quarterly basis.

1262
01:04:17,119 --> 01:04:19,920
So now I just wanted to highlight um the

1263
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,520
structure of the task force. This um

1264
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:25,280
graphic is an overview of what the

1265
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,359
structure will look like. Staff from

1266
01:04:27,359 --> 01:04:29,039
both organizations will provide the

1267
01:04:29,039 --> 01:04:31,119
research, administrative and technical

1268
01:04:31,119 --> 01:04:33,280
support and will develop work plans for

1269
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,000
task force approval. The task force will

1270
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,480
inform, advise and engage the community

1271
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,240
on this work and then all

1272
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,000
recommendations will go to both

1273
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,000
respective councils for final

1274
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:49,430
independent deliberation and decision-m

1275
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:50,960
I now wanted to highlight some of the

1276
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:52,480
roles and responsibilities of the task

1277
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:55,520
force. Really the function of the task

1278
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,359
force is to serve as a coordinated

1279
01:04:57,359 --> 01:04:59,119
research and engagement mechanism

1280
01:04:59,119 --> 01:05:01,280
between the two governments. It's to

1281
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:03,200
coordinate research efforts looking into

1282
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,599
landback opportunities.

1283
01:05:05,599 --> 01:05:07,760
So once the task force is established,

1284
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,599
they'll approve work plans and a

1285
01:05:09,599 --> 01:05:11,839
communications and engagement plan. The

1286
01:05:11,839 --> 01:05:13,760
task force will review and analyze the

1287
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,240
research that staff produces. They'll

1288
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,000
provide guidance on community engagement

1289
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,480
and dialogue opportunities. And then

1290
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,160
based on the on this research and

1291
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,079
community engagement process, the task

1292
01:05:24,079 --> 01:05:25,760
force will make recommendations on a

1293
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:27,920
framework. Those recommendations would

1294
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:29,839
go up to each council independently for

1295
01:05:29,839 --> 01:05:32,880
consideration and decision-m. The task

1296
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:34,559
force itself does not have

1297
01:05:34,559 --> 01:05:37,599
decision-making authority.

1298
01:05:37,599 --> 01:05:40,400
Next slide.

1299
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,720
So in terms of the scope at this time,

1300
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:44,720
the scope of the task force is limited

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01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,280
to exploring, researching and engaging

1302
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,520
district residents and Squamish people

1303
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,079
on the topic of landback. Some of the

1304
01:05:52,079 --> 01:05:54,240
areas areas that the task force could

1305
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,960
explore include the nation's historic

1306
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,520
continued connection to their to their

1307
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,240
traditional territory, reestablishing

1308
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:04,000
cultural and linguistic connections to

1309
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,000
the land,

1310
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,319
um ways to enable shared decision-m or

1311
01:06:08,319 --> 01:06:11,039
co-management of lands, potential policy

1312
01:06:11,039 --> 01:06:12,640
updates,

1313
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:14,880
ways to support or advocate for Squamish

1314
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,520
Nation as it relates to crown land, and

1315
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:19,039
any other initiatives that might be

1316
01:06:19,039 --> 01:06:20,960
identified. One thing that we should

1317
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,039
emphasize is that private property is

1318
01:06:23,039 --> 01:06:24,559
not involved with the scope of this task

1319
01:06:24,559 --> 01:06:28,150
force.

1320
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:29,920
So, some of the examples that the task

1321
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:31,200
force could consider making

1322
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,680
recommendations related to are things

1323
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,760
like co-management of parks and

1324
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,400
protected areas, restoring original

1325
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,280
place names, granting exclusive access

1326
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:44,319
to cultural sites for Scoomish people,

1327
01:06:44,319 --> 01:06:46,319
facilitating access to traditional

1328
01:06:46,319 --> 01:06:48,880
harvesting sites,

1329
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:50,720
um exploring opportunities to recommend

1330
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:52,480
policy updates for district land

1331
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,039
dispositions or leases. Again, these are

1332
01:06:55,039 --> 01:06:56,960
just some examples. There'll be other

1333
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:58,400
opportunities that haven't been

1334
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,829
identified yet.

1335
01:07:01,839 --> 01:07:04,319
So, finally, um, community learning and

1336
01:07:04,319 --> 01:07:06,240
dialogue opportunities are central to

1337
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,480
this work. We know that these topics are

1338
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:10,960
complex and nuanced. So, as a first

1339
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:12,640
step, we're focused on providing

1340
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:14,880
community learning opportunities. We'll

1341
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:16,559
be providing a ton of resources on our

1342
01:07:16,559 --> 01:07:18,319
website and leveraging our library's

1343
01:07:18,319 --> 01:07:20,240
capacity to support residents in better

1344
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,559
understanding these topics. A

1345
01:07:22,559 --> 01:07:24,400
comprehensive trauma-informed committee

1346
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:26,319
engagement plan will also be shared and

1347
01:07:26,319 --> 01:07:29,599
approved by the task force.

1348
01:07:29,599 --> 01:07:31,680
So, in returning to the recommendations

1349
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,079
for consideration, we'll leave it here.

1350
01:07:34,079 --> 01:07:35,760
Thank you for your time and we're happy

1351
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:39,920
to answer any questions you have.

1352
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,789
>> Thank you very much. Council, do you

1353
01:07:42,789 --> 01:07:42,799
» Thank you very much. Council, do you

1354
01:07:42,799 --> 01:07:45,200
have questions for our staff at this

1355
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:48,079
time?

1356
01:07:48,079 --> 01:07:51,589
>> Councelor French.

1357
01:07:51,599 --> 01:07:54,559
U thanks Mayor Herford. Um think that

1358
01:07:54,559 --> 01:07:56,720
this is a a bit of a housekeeping

1359
01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:01,680
question. Um with the meetings that are

1360
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:04,559
expected to be ahead of us um held in

1361
01:08:04,559 --> 01:08:07,520
spaces provided by each organization as

1362
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:08,960
we see in the report, I'm I'm guessing

1363
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:10,960
the district space will likely be this

1364
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,920
chamber or within u municipal hall. And

1365
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:15,359
I'm wondering has the Squamish Nation

1366
01:08:15,359 --> 01:08:17,679
indicated their space of choice? Is it

1367
01:08:17,679 --> 01:08:22,480
Totem Hall or another location? is is is

1368
01:08:22,480 --> 01:08:25,920
there um maybe an indication that the

1369
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:27,440
Squamish Nation would like meetings to

1370
01:08:27,440 --> 01:08:29,359
be held in North Vancouver? Can you give

1371
01:08:29,359 --> 01:08:32,000
us any insight into that?

1372
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,309
>> Oh, sorry. Thank you. Through the chair.

1373
01:08:34,309 --> 01:08:34,319
» Oh, sorry. Thank you. Through the chair.

1374
01:08:34,319 --> 01:08:37,520
Um I think since all of the um appointed

1375
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,279
members from Squamish Nation are from

1376
01:08:39,279 --> 01:08:42,640
Squamish Valley, Totem Hall would likely

1377
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:47,269
be the space to convene.

1378
01:08:47,279 --> 01:08:49,359
Thank you for that very practical

1379
01:08:49,359 --> 01:08:52,799
consideration. Uh councelor Stoner,

1380
01:08:52,799 --> 01:08:54,950
>> thank you chair uh and thanks to staff

1381
01:08:54,950 --> 01:08:54,960
» thank you chair uh and thanks to staff

1382
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:57,120
for the very clear presentation and

1383
01:08:57,120 --> 01:09:00,880
report in our package this evening. Um

1384
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:02,640
you mentioned that it's a time limited

1385
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:06,480
task force to 2028 or until such time

1386
01:09:06,480 --> 01:09:09,679
that the task force has completed its

1387
01:09:09,679 --> 01:09:12,560
outcomes. Um I'm just wondering if you

1388
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,279
can speak to why 2028 was selected as

1389
01:09:15,279 --> 01:09:17,520
kind of the end date.

1390
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:20,470
>> Yeah, through the chair. Um the 2028

1391
01:09:20,470 --> 01:09:20,480
» Yeah, through the chair. Um the 2028

1392
01:09:20,480 --> 01:09:22,640
deadline was selected because that's

1393
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:24,239
where we've identified priorities in

1394
01:09:24,239 --> 01:09:28,159
theou. It was from 25 2025 to 2028. So

1395
01:09:28,159 --> 01:09:30,560
we put that timeline on it to align with

1396
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:35,430
theou.

1397
01:09:35,440 --> 01:09:38,080
» Thank you councelor Penning. Yeah, just

1398
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:40,080
curious if you can remind us because

1399
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,799
we've also committed to meet council to

1400
01:09:42,799 --> 01:09:44,719
council with Squamish Nation more

1401
01:09:44,719 --> 01:09:47,759
frequently if if we know um sort of how

1402
01:09:47,759 --> 01:09:50,640
that um intersects with this and would

1403
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:54,080
this task force uh sort of report when

1404
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:55,920
the broader council council meetings or

1405
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,320
does it more come to our individual sort

1406
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:00,080
of staff and councils and sort of

1407
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,960
separate from the the more the broaderou

1408
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:07,750
council council meetings.

1409
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:09,120
Thank you for the question through the

1410
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:12,880
chair. Um I would say it's it's both and

1411
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:15,760
um that there will be times when staff

1412
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:17,520
come to council and council needs to

1413
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:19,440
make their own decision in district

1414
01:10:19,440 --> 01:10:21,120
chambers as an example and same with

1415
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,520
Squamish Nation Council and the

1416
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:25,280
opportunity for the Lambback task force

1417
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:28,159
themselves to present to both councils

1418
01:10:28,159 --> 01:10:30,400
at the same time would likely prove

1419
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:34,149
fruitful.

1420
01:10:34,159 --> 01:10:36,800
» Okay. Um any other questions for staff?

1421
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:38,960
Councelor Stoner.

1422
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:41,350
>> Yeah, thank you through the chair. Uh

1423
01:10:41,350 --> 01:10:41,360
» Yeah, thank you through the chair. Uh

1424
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,280
also appreciate the clarity on the focus

1425
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:46,560
here on public lands. Um I'm curious if

1426
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:48,800
there's been any dialogue amongst staff

1427
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:50,239
in the development of the terms of

1428
01:10:50,239 --> 01:10:53,760
reference of inviting other orders of

1429
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:55,520
government in. Much of the public land

1430
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:57,280
that exists within the boundaries of the

1431
01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:00,080
District of Squamish are crown lands. Um

1432
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,159
and so how do we start to address this

1433
01:11:02,159 --> 01:11:04,480
conversation or is that a topic for the

1434
01:11:04,480 --> 01:11:07,600
task force to do um of what that looks

1435
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:09,360
like?

1436
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:10,790
>> Thank you. Through the chair, I would

1437
01:11:10,790 --> 01:11:10,800
» Thank you. Through the chair, I would

1438
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,280
say it's the latter. So at this point,

1439
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,199
staff are bringing terms of reference

1440
01:11:15,199 --> 01:11:18,000
for each council to approve. Following

1441
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,000
that, the task force themselves would

1442
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:23,040
would commence that work.

1443
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:25,440
Um and just and

1444
01:11:25,440 --> 01:11:28,480
I think that point is is is very

1445
01:11:28,480 --> 01:11:31,040
important and in the in the terms of

1446
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:35,280
reference and scope uh the second bullet

1447
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:36,800
point from the bottom I guess is the way

1448
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:38,400
to describe that it's not numbered

1449
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:39,840
support or advocate for scholar nation

1450
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:42,159
as it relates to crown land dispositions

1451
01:11:42,159 --> 01:11:43,840
that doesn't quite cover the the

1452
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,719
totality of the interacting with the uh

1453
01:11:46,719 --> 01:11:48,800
crown more broadly but there's um

1454
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:50,400
definitely sort of recognition of that

1455
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:52,159
there but I do think much of the terms

1456
01:11:52,159 --> 01:11:56,159
of reference um uh I would expect the

1457
01:11:56,159 --> 01:11:58,239
group jointly to look at this together

1458
01:11:58,239 --> 01:11:59,760
and see if there's room to move at this

1459
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:04,159
point. Any changes to the to the um to

1460
01:12:04,159 --> 01:12:06,320
the terms of reference uh would need to

1461
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,320
be negotiated with the Squamish Nation.

1462
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:11,040
I do think this the task force is the

1463
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:12,719
best mechanism to sort recommend

1464
01:12:12,719 --> 01:12:14,880
whatever those changes would be back to

1465
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:18,640
their joint to their their own um board

1466
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:20,960
or governance structure.

1467
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:22,880
Um,

1468
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:26,480
I'm not seeing any further hands for

1469
01:12:26,480 --> 01:12:29,600
questions. So, I would like to I will

1470
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:32,000
move uh that council approve the terms

1471
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:33,840
of reference for the landback task force

1472
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:35,679
and appoint three members of council to

1473
01:12:35,679 --> 01:12:37,679
serve on the landback task force as

1474
01:12:37,679 --> 01:12:39,760
follows. Mayor Hurford, councelor

1475
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:41,760
Stoner, and councelor Anderson. And I'll

1476
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:43,920
speak to it if it's seconded. Second by

1477
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:47,440
councelor French. Thank you. I think um

1478
01:12:47,440 --> 01:12:51,920
this is incredibly um important work. Um

1479
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:55,199
and I'm going to read directly from the

1480
01:12:55,199 --> 01:12:57,440
um from the terms of reference. The

1481
01:12:57,440 --> 01:12:59,520
Lambach task force exists to research,

1482
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:01,040
learn, and engage both District of

1483
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:04,560
Squamish residents and Squamish people

1484
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:06,640
on the concept of landback. Its primary

1485
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:08,480
goal is to develop a framework for land

1486
01:13:08,480 --> 01:13:10,239
back in the District of Squamish,

1487
01:13:10,239 --> 01:13:11,840
including policy considerations for

1488
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:13,600
future public land dispositions by the

1489
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:15,760
District of Squamish and joint use of

1490
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:19,199
district lands. I think this is in um

1491
01:13:19,199 --> 01:13:23,520
incredibly important that we um

1492
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:26,400
that we have this dialogue with uh the

1493
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:28,880
Squam with the Squamish Nation directly

1494
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:33,520
and with our community around what um

1495
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:35,280
what this is and what it isn't. We've

1496
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:36,480
heard a little bit in the presentation

1497
01:13:36,480 --> 01:13:39,760
around what this what this uh isn't in

1498
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,560
it is not something that's um and we do

1499
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:45,679
not have the juris the the entity itself

1500
01:13:45,679 --> 01:13:47,600
the task force does not have jur does

1501
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:51,440
not have decision making uh um in power

1502
01:13:51,440 --> 01:13:54,560
in and of itself and neither does this

1503
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:56,880
group have decision-making power around

1504
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,360
uh private private land. This is not

1505
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:01,360
what it's what it's about. But there are

1506
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:05,199
some very um uh meaningful conversations

1507
01:14:05,199 --> 01:14:07,280
to be had and in a good way and those

1508
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:08,719
need to be shared with the community and

1509
01:14:08,719 --> 01:14:12,080
that is a lot of uh of what this is in

1510
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:14,159
in my mind and I've heard some fear in

1511
01:14:14,159 --> 01:14:16,960
the in the community um and around the

1512
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,120
the province and country around around

1513
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:22,880
this and I really uh my expectation is

1514
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:26,239
this can be a vehicle to fill those um

1515
01:14:26,239 --> 01:14:28,640
uh to fill those gaps uh in

1516
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,840
understanding that uh folks have uh

1517
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,159
often filled themselves with with fear.

1518
01:14:34,159 --> 01:14:37,840
So, this is um a really important piece

1519
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:40,640
uh of work and and I really think back

1520
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:42,960
to the protocol agreement where we

1521
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,679
committed to as a as a group in this

1522
01:14:45,679 --> 01:14:47,360
room and as a community to listen and

1523
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:49,120
engage to follow the ways of the

1524
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,920
Squamish, to genuinely care, to learn

1525
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:54,159
the advice of the Squamish. And I love

1526
01:14:54,159 --> 01:14:55,520
this one, the people go through it

1527
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:57,520
together. We are all going through this

1528
01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,600
together as a community. the residents

1529
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:03,679
of Squamish and the and uh the Squamish

1530
01:15:03,679 --> 01:15:05,760
Okme. We're going through this together

1531
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:08,080
and I think it's this is a together part

1532
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:09,920
of that as well as protecting the rights

1533
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:11,600
and title of the Squamish. So, I look

1534
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:16,159
forward to um to um working uh with

1535
01:15:16,159 --> 01:15:17,760
Squamish Nation and my colleagues on

1536
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:20,080
this and um thank you to everybody

1537
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:24,400
involved to get us to this point. Um I

1538
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:28,880
I um I do think that having a table to

1539
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,840
sit at to discuss these matters with our

1540
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:33,679
uh neighbors at this at the Squamish

1541
01:15:33,679 --> 01:15:36,080
Nation um is incredibly important and

1542
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:37,360
likely at any point in time, but

1543
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:38,960
particularly at this point in time. So

1544
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:40,560
I'm thankful for the creation of this

1545
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:42,800
initiative and look forward to doing the

1546
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,920
work. I will other comments on this.

1547
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:47,440
Councelor French.

1548
01:15:47,440 --> 01:15:49,189
>> Thanks, Mayor Herford. Um this is

1549
01:15:49,189 --> 01:15:49,199
» Thanks, Mayor Herford. Um this is

1550
01:15:49,199 --> 01:15:51,679
exciting tonight. Uh the task force has

1551
01:15:51,679 --> 01:15:54,239
an important historical mission ahead

1552
01:15:54,239 --> 01:15:56,080
and coming into this meeting tonight

1553
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:58,640
I've had some mixed feedback on this

1554
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:01,440
task force from many people and

1555
01:16:01,440 --> 01:16:04,000
surprisingly to me a little bit people

1556
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:07,760
from all over the province. Um, many

1557
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:10,400
eyes are on Squamish tonight with this

1558
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,440
decision and uh and this recommendation

1559
01:16:13,440 --> 01:16:15,600
and this motion.

1560
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,520
And what I've discovered over the last

1561
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:19,520
couple of days in going through the

1562
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:22,239
feedback that I've seen is uh those who

1563
01:16:22,239 --> 01:16:25,199
get what we're up to, they truly get it.

1564
01:16:25,199 --> 01:16:27,360
Those who don't, in my opinion, are

1565
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:29,360
mainly driven by fear, feelings of

1566
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,600
superiority, and a belief that there's

1567
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,880
no historical wrongs to be reconciled. I

1568
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:37,440
fully disagree with that. There are

1569
01:16:37,440 --> 01:16:40,400
wrongs to be corrected. And part of what

1570
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:42,719
we're doing tonight is taking that on.

1571
01:16:42,719 --> 01:16:44,400
The path that we're continuing on with

1572
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,400
the Squamish nation feels minimal. When

1573
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:49,280
I think about my white European

1574
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:52,320
ancestors who came here, claimed these

1575
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:54,239
lands, and introduced the human

1576
01:16:54,239 --> 01:16:56,960
construct that we call private property.

1577
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:58,719
And the newcomers to this place then

1578
01:16:58,719 --> 01:17:00,719
tried to assimilate the Skoish people

1579
01:17:00,719 --> 01:17:04,159
into European ways using what I think

1580
01:17:04,159 --> 01:17:07,040
are cruel tactics. And many people agree

1581
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:09,679
with me on that. With no ability to undo

1582
01:17:09,679 --> 01:17:11,440
the historical hurt brought to the

1583
01:17:11,440 --> 01:17:13,520
people who lived here for thousands of

1584
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,960
years before my ancestors arrived, I see

1585
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,600
this task force as a small step along a

1586
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:22,640
path that we're meant to be on until we

1587
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:24,960
can all collectively agree that true

1588
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:27,520
reconciliation has been achieved with

1589
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:30,560
the Squamish people. Councelor Lewis

1590
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:33,760
told me a few days ago that she's stoked

1591
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:37,040
about the work of this task force and

1592
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:39,760
she's keen to learn who's appointed to

1593
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:41,760
the task force to represent the District

1594
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:43,840
of Squamish. We've achieved that I I

1595
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:46,239
think or we're about to confirm that

1596
01:17:46,239 --> 01:17:49,040
tonight. And I want to add that

1597
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:51,360
transparency through this process is

1598
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:53,760
important to me individually. And I've

1599
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:55,440
heard from many in our community that

1600
01:17:55,440 --> 01:17:57,600
transparency with this process is vital

1601
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:01,040
to them as well. I pledge to do all that

1602
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:03,440
I can to promote public education

1603
01:18:03,440 --> 01:18:05,600
through this process and to keep the

1604
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:08,080
work of the task force as transparent as

1605
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:11,280
it possibly um can.

1606
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:14,480
And when my time in this seat comes to

1607
01:18:14,480 --> 01:18:16,719
an end, I expect that I will point to

1608
01:18:16,719 --> 01:18:19,199
the work of this task force as a high

1609
01:18:19,199 --> 01:18:21,760
point in my political experience. I

1610
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:24,480
support the recommended appointments and

1611
01:18:24,480 --> 01:18:26,960
um any one of the elected officials I

1612
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:28,320
believe in this room tonight would

1613
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:29,760
suitably represent the District of

1614
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:32,400
Squamish on this task force. I'm happy

1615
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:33,920
that we've selected the three that we

1616
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:35,600
have. I support the motion in front of

1617
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:36,880
us.

1618
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:38,229
>> Thank you very much, Councelor French.

1619
01:18:38,229 --> 01:18:38,239
» Thank you very much, Councelor French.

1620
01:18:38,239 --> 01:18:40,480
Councelor Sto.

1621
01:18:40,480 --> 01:18:42,640
Yeah, thank you to the chair. Uh, happy

1622
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:46,560
to support this motion this evening. Um,

1623
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:48,320
and I think back to even when we just

1624
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:52,080
signed theou in mid July, the context

1625
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:54,320
was very different. Um, it was before

1626
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:56,719
the Kawashan tribes decision court case

1627
01:18:56,719 --> 01:18:59,360
came forward. Um, and there was a real

1628
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:01,600
pivot in the provincial, let alone the

1629
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:04,080
national narrative around the path of

1630
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:05,760
reconciliation.

1631
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:08,400
Um, I think as I continue to reflect and

1632
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:13,440
and hear the concerns uh that are

1633
01:19:13,440 --> 01:19:18,159
emerging and I think um some of them are

1634
01:19:18,159 --> 01:19:20,080
they're definitely they feel like valid

1635
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:22,000
concerns for many folks because there's

1636
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,239
a lot of uncertainty. I actually think

1637
01:19:24,239 --> 01:19:26,000
what this task force does and our

1638
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:27,360
continued commitment to recon

1639
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:30,560
reconciliation does is actually

1640
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:33,199
open up the opportunity for dialogue,

1641
01:19:33,199 --> 01:19:35,520
for understanding, for education,

1642
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:38,080
learning, and sharing. And that is what

1643
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:41,199
our community does best across both

1644
01:19:41,199 --> 01:19:43,679
Squamish residents as well as the Scoish

1645
01:19:43,679 --> 01:19:46,880
people. Um, as Mayor Hurford reiterated,

1646
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:48,400
I think one of the most appropriate

1647
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:51,760
components of the principles of theou

1648
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:53,440
that applies here is that the people go

1649
01:19:53,440 --> 01:19:55,679
through it together. We are all in this

1650
01:19:55,679 --> 01:19:57,520
together and we're trying to find our

1651
01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:59,760
way through it. I'd be lying if I said

1652
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:01,920
we all knew the answers. But to

1653
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:04,320
councelor French's point, I think our

1654
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:07,360
council, our staff, our community, and

1655
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:08,560
I've heard this from the Squamish

1656
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:11,840
Nation, this task force is committed to

1657
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:14,480
transparency, to engagement, to

1658
01:20:14,480 --> 01:20:16,480
research, and shared learning,

1659
01:20:16,480 --> 01:20:18,239
developing a framework that we can all

1660
01:20:18,239 --> 01:20:20,320
feel comfortable with to move us forward

1661
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:24,239
on a stronger foundation. Um, because we

1662
01:20:24,239 --> 01:20:25,840
are all going to be here together no

1663
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:27,679
matter what. we can either battle it out

1664
01:20:27,679 --> 01:20:30,480
in court or we can build strong working

1665
01:20:30,480 --> 01:20:32,960
relationships and move forward together,

1666
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,040
show up represented to the province

1667
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:37,440
together as opposed to apart. And I

1668
01:20:37,440 --> 01:20:38,480
think that's the piece that we're

1669
01:20:38,480 --> 01:20:41,120
looking for in this work. Um, and I'm

1670
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:42,800
honored to take it on on behalf of

1671
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:44,800
council of community and with community

1672
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:48,239
and with council and our staff.

1673
01:20:48,239 --> 01:20:49,430
>> Thank you for that, Councelor S.

1674
01:20:49,430 --> 01:20:49,440
» Thank you for that, Councelor S.

1675
01:20:49,440 --> 01:20:51,760
Councelor Anderson.

1676
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:54,390
>> Thank you, Mayor Herford. Uh it will be

1677
01:20:54,390 --> 01:20:54,400
» Thank you, Mayor Herford. Uh it will be

1678
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:56,960
a great privilege and responsibility to

1679
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:59,199
be serving on this task force. I am

1680
01:20:59,199 --> 01:21:02,400
looking forward to to fulfill the

1681
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:04,080
principle that's outlined in the snap

1682
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:05,360
presentation tonight. One of those

1683
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:07,679
principles, listen and engage. And I'm

1684
01:21:07,679 --> 01:21:09,040
going to be learning how to pronounce

1685
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:10,960
that in the Squamish language. But

1686
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:13,760
that's one that leaps out for me. Uh we

1687
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:16,000
need in response to community interest

1688
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:17,920
as well. Of course, I see this I'm

1689
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:19,280
looking forward to a process of

1690
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:21,920
exploration as well as an educational

1691
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:26,159
process. Um I councelor French has so

1692
01:21:26,159 --> 01:21:28,640
eloquently uh reminded us that or

1693
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:31,040
pointed out that many eyes will be on

1694
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:35,280
Squamish. So uh it will be important for

1695
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:37,520
a learning process

1696
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:39,600
important for other communities and

1697
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:42,239
agencies well beyond Squamish. So this

1698
01:21:42,239 --> 01:21:45,280
is an added responsibility that uh I

1699
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:47,600
look forward to facing. Thank you very

1700
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:48,960
much.

1701
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:50,709
>> Thank you, Councelor Penning.

1702
01:21:50,709 --> 01:21:50,719
» Thank you, Councelor Penning.

1703
01:21:50,719 --> 01:21:52,709
>> Yeah, thank you. Uh happy to support the

1704
01:21:52,709 --> 01:21:52,719
» Yeah, thank you. Uh happy to support the

1705
01:21:52,719 --> 01:21:55,679
motion. Um just reflecting on a few

1706
01:21:55,679 --> 01:21:58,320
things. I was never really a a huge fan

1707
01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:00,400
of the the Harper government, but in

1708
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:03,679
2008 uh that government uh apologized

1709
01:22:03,679 --> 01:22:06,000
for the residential school system and

1710
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:08,719
later a couple years later adopted uh

1711
01:22:08,719 --> 01:22:10,080
United Nation Declaration on the Rights

1712
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:11,600
of Indigenous Peoples with with a small

1713
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:14,239
caveat. But then in 2016, the Liberal

1714
01:22:14,239 --> 01:22:15,360
government, I guess the other side of

1715
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:17,280
the aisle, you might say, uh fully

1716
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:21,840
endorsed it. Um and so you know

1717
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:23,920
colonialism and our history and how we

1718
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:26,000
move forward is something that Canada

1719
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:28,320
has been grappling with for a long time.

1720
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:31,600
Um our democratically elected national

1721
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:33,679
governments from both sides of the aisle

1722
01:22:33,679 --> 01:22:36,560
seem to support when you sort of read um

1723
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:38,639
the text of of what they were doing and

1724
01:22:38,639 --> 01:22:40,159
why they were doing it. It is, I think,

1725
01:22:40,159 --> 01:22:42,080
as my colleague pointed out,

1726
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:43,600
understanding, there's a more

1727
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:45,040
constructive way than battling things

1728
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:46,719
out in court. When we try and understand

1729
01:22:46,719 --> 01:22:48,880
and see each other's each others as

1730
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:50,800
human beings and trying to understand

1731
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:52,320
what we all need and how we can best

1732
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:54,159
move forward together, that's kind of

1733
01:22:54,159 --> 01:22:55,760
the path to success. And that's what I

1734
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:57,679
really see is sort of the common element

1735
01:22:57,679 --> 01:22:59,040
between these different governments and

1736
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,199
these different documents that we're all

1737
01:23:01,199 --> 01:23:02,800
trying to work towards. And I I think

1738
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:05,600
that applies here, too. I'm really proud

1739
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:07,199
of our community every day on the

1740
01:23:07,199 --> 01:23:08,719
National Day for Truth and

1741
01:23:08,719 --> 01:23:10,480
Reconciliation. I see all the the orange

1742
01:23:10,480 --> 01:23:13,520
shirts uh uh walking down the street

1743
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:15,760
together. And I think this is just sort

1744
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:18,159
of that next step. There is a whole lot

1745
01:23:18,159 --> 01:23:20,480
of fear I think born out of a whole lot

1746
01:23:20,480 --> 01:23:22,880
of information uh misinformation and

1747
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:25,520
political opportunism uh which is really

1748
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:27,040
quite frustrating. But I think this is a

1749
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:29,040
fantastic opportunity to have some

1750
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:31,360
really great conversation that I think

1751
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:33,840
uh should make things better for for

1752
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:35,199
everyone at the end of the day. I think

1753
01:23:35,199 --> 01:23:37,760
this is a path of and it is the

1754
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:39,520
underlying goal of how do we make this a

1755
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:40,880
better place for everybody and I think

1756
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:42,800
that's really what this is all about.

1757
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:45,280
Um, and so I know this is something that

1758
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:46,960
our our whole council has felt

1759
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:48,960
passionate about and it's pretty hard to

1760
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,040
to I think we all sort of would would

1761
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:52,800
have liked to be in the room, but even

1762
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:55,760
if we're not in the room, um, we'll be

1763
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:57,920
finding other ways to support these

1764
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:00,880
absolutely critical efforts. Um, with

1765
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:02,320
that out of the way, just one small

1766
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:04,320
thing. I I do see that the budget for

1767
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:07,120
this is part of our broader memorandum

1768
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:10,080
of understanding uh, budget. I I do sort

1769
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:11,679
of wonder and maybe the task force needs

1770
01:24:11,679 --> 01:24:13,280
to ask for this, but if if there's a bit

1771
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:15,679
of a a clear number that this task force

1772
01:24:15,679 --> 01:24:17,600
sort of had to sort of scope like how

1773
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:19,280
far they can go in terms of having these

1774
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:21,520
community conversations and so on. Just

1775
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:23,040
a small thought as I read through the

1776
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:25,440
report, but otherwise um very happy to

1777
01:24:25,440 --> 01:24:27,360
support this and uh thank you to the

1778
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:29,760
colleagues that will be leading this.

1779
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:32,790
>> Thank you, Councelor Hamilton.

1780
01:24:32,790 --> 01:24:32,800
» Thank you, Councelor Hamilton.

1781
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:34,550
>> Yeah, thanks very much. I'm very happy

1782
01:24:34,550 --> 01:24:34,560
» Yeah, thanks very much. I'm very happy

1783
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:37,120
to be supporting this motion. This is

1784
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:40,000
extraordinarily important work. Um, and

1785
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:41,600
I am extraordinarily grateful to my

1786
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:43,520
colleagues who are willing to take it on

1787
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:46,560
as members of the task force. Um, and

1788
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:49,840
I'm really grateful to staff for helping

1789
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:53,199
get the councils uh to this point. I

1790
01:24:53,199 --> 01:24:55,760
think staff play a vital and pivotal

1791
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:59,520
role um in having our councils be uh

1792
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:03,440
able to have uh constructive, careful

1793
01:25:03,440 --> 01:25:05,280
conversations, delicate and challenging

1794
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:07,520
conversations with each other. Um and so

1795
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:10,000
I think this task force is really a

1796
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:12,400
culmination of a lot of staff work um to

1797
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:13,600
be able to have challenging and

1798
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:15,520
difficult conversations uh with each

1799
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:19,440
other in uh open and um receptive ways.

1800
01:25:19,440 --> 01:25:20,880
So, thank you to my colleagues for

1801
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:24,000
taking this on. Um, and I certainly

1802
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,400
would look forward to hearing uh as the

1803
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:29,360
task force progresses.

1804
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:32,229
>> Thank you very much. Um, and thank you

1805
01:25:32,229 --> 01:25:32,239
» Thank you very much. Um, and thank you

1806
01:25:32,239 --> 01:25:33,760
uh council for all the thoughtful

1807
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:35,920
comments. I I would love to riff on each

1808
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:38,320
of of the the themes that have emerged

1809
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:41,120
here. Um, and I do think that uh really

1810
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:44,560
highlights the uh importance of this uh

1811
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:48,159
of this work. So um we will this this is

1812
01:25:48,159 --> 01:25:50,960
uh clearly not the but uh not the last

1813
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:52,560
touch point for the for this. So we'll

1814
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:55,199
save uh my comments for the next time

1815
01:25:55,199 --> 01:25:57,120
these matters are before us. I'll call

1816
01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:59,679
the question. All in favor?

1817
01:25:59,679 --> 01:26:01,600
Motion carries unanimously. Thank you

1818
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:06,080
very much. Thank you for all your work.

1819
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:09,520
Um, so next, uh, we don't have any late

1820
01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:12,639
agenda items or, uh, but or

1821
01:26:12,639 --> 01:26:14,800
correspondence action requested, but we

1822
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:16,560
do have items referred from the consent

1823
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:19,760
agenda. So, we're on to 11

1824
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:23,520
uh C, I think, is what both of those

1825
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:26,880
are. So, Councelor Stoner, um, you

1826
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:30,159
pulled 6D1. So, this is the five-year

1827
01:26:30,159 --> 01:26:33,520
the STR review. And just to orient

1828
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:36,480
everyone, I know council knows this. Uh

1829
01:26:36,480 --> 01:26:39,120
for the most part, we don't um with

1830
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:41,360
these pieces where we have a a memo from

1831
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:44,400
staff uh come through. We don't have the

1832
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:47,760
staff uh available to answer answer

1833
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:49,440
questions. So if we have questions that

1834
01:26:49,440 --> 01:26:51,920
are more uh involved, we could refer

1835
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:53,360
these to a future meeting to dig into

1836
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:56,320
them further. Um but uh just with that

1837
01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:58,560
caveat, I will I will turn over to you

1838
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:00,960
to get us started, councelor Soner.

1839
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:03,199
Yeah, thank you uh through the chair. I

1840
01:27:03,199 --> 01:27:04,880
was going to refer this to a future

1841
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:06,800
committee the whole for future for

1842
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:08,320
further discussion and if that's

1843
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:09,679
seconded I'll speak to it.

1844
01:27:09,679 --> 01:27:11,110
>> I'll second it and do you want to go

1845
01:27:11,110 --> 01:27:11,120
» I'll second it and do you want to go

1846
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:12,400
ahead?

1847
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:14,390
>> Yeah. Uh and thanks for supporting

1848
01:27:14,390 --> 01:27:14,400
» Yeah. Uh and thanks for supporting

1849
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:15,600
seconding it before I actually

1850
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:17,360
articulated why I would like to discuss

1851
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:19,840
it further. Um but there are some

1852
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:23,199
components in the report uh that were

1853
01:27:23,199 --> 01:27:25,040
that flagged me that I think are just

1854
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:26,320
worthy of some further council

1855
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:28,880
deliberation. in particular, um it is

1856
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:31,360
the suggestion that we continue to

1857
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:34,400
encourage folks to reapply

1858
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:36,719
for temporary use permits after their

1859
01:27:36,719 --> 01:27:40,560
six years. Um so under the legislation,

1860
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:44,320
uh you technically can um reapply for a

1861
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:47,040
TUP under a new application.

1862
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:49,040
It's not generally our practice to do

1863
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:51,760
so. Um and I it I think that that's

1864
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:53,520
worthy of some council deliberation as

1865
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:55,280
to whether that is that is practice that

1866
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:57,600
we want to um address. And then we also

1867
01:27:57,600 --> 01:27:59,600
got some late correspondences today from

1868
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:03,440
tourism Squamish uh that would also

1869
01:28:03,440 --> 01:28:05,760
amplify um I think a further dialogue

1870
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,719
around our short-term rental regulation

1871
01:28:08,719 --> 01:28:11,040
policy.

1872
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:14,950
>> Thank you. Um yeah, the thank you for

1873
01:28:14,950 --> 01:28:14,960
» Thank you. Um yeah, the thank you for

1874
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:18,159
that. the the broader the TU issue here

1875
01:28:18,159 --> 01:28:20,320
is is broader I think than obviously

1876
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:23,679
than just this use of t of t and I think

1877
01:28:23,679 --> 01:28:26,480
that with that in mind just whether this

1878
01:28:26,480 --> 01:28:30,080
is the um the preferred mechanism and I

1879
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:31,840
get that that's likely a future action

1880
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:33,280
thing that's not something that we have

1881
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:35,280
in our work plans but I'd really like to

1882
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:38,480
have a discussion around um around that

1883
01:28:38,480 --> 01:28:40,400
and I think this is such an impactful

1884
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:42,080
piece for the community that it does

1885
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:45,040
deserve more space than uh and I know

1886
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:46,880
it's going to take more those sort of

1887
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:49,199
future action items piece make make good

1888
01:28:49,199 --> 01:28:50,480
sense, but I do think we should spend a

1889
01:28:50,480 --> 01:28:52,480
little bit more um time with this and

1890
01:28:52,480 --> 01:28:54,400
address some of those or discuss some of

1891
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:56,480
those issues. I'll go to you c did I see

1892
01:28:56,480 --> 01:28:58,480
a hand? No, you don't have to. You

1893
01:28:58,480 --> 01:29:01,199
can't. Councelor Penn is that your hand?

1894
01:29:01,199 --> 01:29:02,950
>> Yeah, I appreciate this coming back and

1895
01:29:02,950 --> 01:29:02,960
» Yeah, I appreciate this coming back and

1896
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:06,000
just one thought maybe to uh for staff

1897
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:08,080
to think about or for us to think about

1898
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:09,679
when it comes back. I know there's been

1899
01:29:09,679 --> 01:29:12,719
some question or concern about uh has

1900
01:29:12,719 --> 01:29:14,800
this policy how many units has it

1901
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:17,920
returned to the long-term rental market.

1902
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:20,320
Um I think that is one aspect or in my

1903
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:22,159
mind one aspect or one goal. The other

1904
01:29:22,159 --> 01:29:24,080
piece of it at least one other piece of

1905
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:28,960
it for me was um you know if if a a home

1906
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:32,560
can be a revenue generator um does that

1907
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:34,400
then raise the price and sort of force

1908
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:37,199
everyone to either do that or pay a very

1909
01:29:37,199 --> 01:29:39,120
high price for a home? And so it's it's

1910
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:43,280
not just about returning uh units to the

1911
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:45,440
long-term market, but what it does to

1912
01:29:45,440 --> 01:29:47,360
affordability. And we have many things

1913
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:48,639
pushing affordability in different

1914
01:29:48,639 --> 01:29:51,440
directions. So not thinking that's, you

1915
01:29:51,440 --> 01:29:53,440
know, there's one magic solution here,

1916
01:29:53,440 --> 01:29:56,239
but um if there are any additional

1917
01:29:56,239 --> 01:29:59,040
thoughts or new information about uh the

1918
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:01,600
push and pull there in terms of the

1919
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:04,560
affordability of a home, um that may be

1920
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:08,000
useful for our next discussion.

1921
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:11,120
Thank you. Um just another piece of this

1922
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:14,400
is the um the fees are meant uh I'm

1923
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:15,920
curious to dig into the fees a little

1924
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:20,080
bit. the um the fees revenue were uh

1925
01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:22,400
generally 156,800

1926
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:26,560
and the annual um expenses to administer

1927
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:29,199
the program were at 145,000 and it did

1928
01:30:29,199 --> 01:30:30,560
say that the third party monitoring

1929
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:32,159
services dropped out of that and I just

1930
01:30:32,159 --> 01:30:35,440
I want to understand that better and if

1931
01:30:35,440 --> 01:30:37,520
inside of that cost recovery piece and

1932
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:39,520
that's pretty close to the line with the

1933
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:41,600
numbers that are there um just how we're

1934
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:44,960
distributing those uh those uh fees

1935
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:46,800
inside of that I I think are is worth

1936
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:48,080
some. So, I'd like to dig into that

1937
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:50,400
little piece a little bit as well, but

1938
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:52,880
that is for a future meeting, which is

1939
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:54,480
exactly what the resolution is. So, with

1940
01:30:54,480 --> 01:30:55,520
that, I'm going to call the question.

1941
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:57,280
All in favor? Motion carries

1942
01:30:57,280 --> 01:30:59,760
unanimously. Thank you. And then back to

1943
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:03,600
you, Councelor Stoner. Item 62.

1944
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:05,910
>> Um, and I'm going to move receipt of

1945
01:31:05,910 --> 01:31:05,920
» Um, and I'm going to move receipt of

1946
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:08,639
this memo uh because I just want to

1947
01:31:08,639 --> 01:31:10,320
speak to it and highlight it.

1948
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:11,510
>> Is there a second for the motion?

1949
01:31:11,510 --> 01:31:11,520
» Is there a second for the motion?

1950
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:14,159
Councelor French. Go ahead, Councelor S.

1951
01:31:14,159 --> 01:31:16,390
>> Uh, yeah. Thanks. I couldn't help myself

1952
01:31:16,390 --> 01:31:16,400
» Uh, yeah. Thanks. I couldn't help myself

1953
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:17,840
but to pull this one because I think

1954
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:19,280
that there's some really great numbers

1955
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:22,880
in this memo which speaks to uh the uh

1956
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:24,880
expansion of the evolve eBike share

1957
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:27,199
program which we launched last summer.

1958
01:31:27,199 --> 01:31:30,400
So in just 166 days of its first year of

1959
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:32,719
operation, there were across 54 bikes

1960
01:31:32,719 --> 01:31:36,400
were deployed from 18 locations that saw

1961
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:38,400
1,318

1962
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:41,840
unique riders for a total trip of total

1963
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:44,480
number of trips of 3,96

1964
01:31:44,480 --> 01:31:49,360
over those 166 days. Um so BCAA who runs

1965
01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:52,239
the evolve program is looking to expand

1966
01:31:52,239 --> 01:31:54,560
uh to an additional basic almost

1967
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:56,400
doubling their locations to 33 new

1968
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:58,000
locations extending into Gabali

1969
01:31:58,000 --> 01:31:59,679
Highlands, Oceanfront, Brackendale and

1970
01:31:59,679 --> 01:32:01,920
Mammqu uh and providing a new

1971
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:03,920
opportunity for folks not just ride on

1972
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:05,920
ebikes but also on e- scooters. And I

1973
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:07,840
think that this is a fantastic

1974
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:09,280
opportunity for our community to have

1975
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:11,840
different forms of transportation um and

1976
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:15,040
micro transportation across our

1977
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:19,199
very spread out community.

1978
01:32:19,199 --> 01:32:22,790
>> Other comments on this council penning?

1979
01:32:22,790 --> 01:32:22,800
» Other comments on this council penning?

1980
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:24,870
>> Yeah, I was very happy to see this. I

1981
01:32:24,870 --> 01:32:24,880
» Yeah, I was very happy to see this. I

1982
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:26,400
think it was in the first week or two

1983
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:29,040
after launch uh which was not meant to

1984
01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:32,159
go past the mamquam. I saw uh folks at

1985
01:32:32,159 --> 01:32:34,000
the bag with a you know a pile of bikes

1986
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:35,600
cuz they they'd ridden the bikes to the

1987
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:37,120
bag and then they I guess rode them back

1988
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:39,760
downtown or wherever. Uh so having this

1989
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:41,520
uh available stops available in the

1990
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:44,480
whole community I think is uh is a great

1991
01:32:44,480 --> 01:32:48,480
thing. Um uh sort of curious and ex

1992
01:32:48,480 --> 01:32:50,159
really curious to see how the the

1993
01:32:50,159 --> 01:32:53,760
scooters go. U I'm sort of wondering if

1994
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:55,920
those stay more localized. That's just a

1995
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:59,679
curiosity. Uh just a slight tangent. I I

1996
01:32:59,679 --> 01:33:02,560
saw I think an email that the um the on

1997
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:05,040
demand transit service is starting to

1998
01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:07,679
and and so there's a lot of really uh

1999
01:33:07,679 --> 01:33:09,520
exciting things uh and I have people

2000
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:11,679
asking for for more already for the on

2001
01:33:11,679 --> 01:33:14,320
demand. So it's great to see these

2002
01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:17,040
things uh moving forward.

2003
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:19,830
>> Thank you. Any other comments on this?

2004
01:33:19,830 --> 01:33:19,840
» Thank you. Any other comments on this?

2005
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:23,350
>> Um I'm going to say yes to those

2006
01:33:23,350 --> 01:33:23,360
» Um I'm going to say yes to those

2007
01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:24,960
comments that I've heard already around

2008
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:26,800
the table. This really remarkable

2009
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:32,400
success here. I think um Squamish um in

2010
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:34,239
various initiatives hasn't quite been

2011
01:33:34,239 --> 01:33:36,639
the right size to support some other

2012
01:33:36,639 --> 01:33:39,760
initiatives around asomely like car

2013
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:42,400
share as a you know we all know the the

2014
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:45,440
challenges but to see something um

2015
01:33:45,440 --> 01:33:47,360
really be such a good fit for our

2016
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:50,239
community is really is really great and

2017
01:33:50,239 --> 01:33:52,639
uh it shows when there is a there when

2018
01:33:52,639 --> 01:33:54,320
there is a fit that works for people

2019
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:57,840
people will use it. those uh 1,318

2020
01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:00,880
unique riders uh is that's a lot of

2021
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:03,679
people. That's impressive. And that is

2022
01:34:03,679 --> 01:34:07,120
with only uh 54 ebikes in 18 locations.

2023
01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:10,800
So, I'm really looking forward to uh

2024
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:13,040
seeing and and feeling how the community

2025
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:17,360
feels when there's um far more uh both

2026
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:20,080
locations and and bikes available. And

2027
01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:22,239
one of the pieces that uh should jump

2028
01:34:22,239 --> 01:34:25,440
out to everyone that reads this report

2029
01:34:25,440 --> 01:34:27,440
uh not that there may be a line up for

2030
01:34:27,440 --> 01:34:29,280
people to read this report is under the

2031
01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:30,960
budget section. I'm going to read the

2032
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:33,360
very first section. The partnership does

2033
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:38,149
not cost the district money.

2034
01:34:38,159 --> 01:34:41,679
Remarkable. So happy to support. Of

2035
01:34:41,679 --> 01:34:44,960
course, we have uh folks uh do need to

2036
01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:47,360
uh on our team that do need to do some

2037
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:48,560
what have been described as sort of

2038
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:51,280
light touches around uh some some

2039
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:54,000
planning uh for these, but essentially

2040
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:56,800
the operations of these um do not cost

2041
01:34:56,800 --> 01:34:58,960
the district money and that's really

2042
01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:02,560
remarkable. Um,

2043
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:04,800
oh, and a little side note that there

2044
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:07,199
are uh the bikes and the scooters both

2045
01:35:07,199 --> 01:35:10,400
have uh GPS enabled and any that go

2046
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:14,000
astray are found and returned to so uh

2047
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:16,159
there has not been a a lost piece. Thank

2048
01:35:16,159 --> 01:35:18,320
you for that. Um I'll call the question.

2049
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:21,600
All in favor? Motion carries. Thank you.

2050
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:24,560
I think those were the two pieces

2051
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:27,440
um left. So now uh we don't have any

2052
01:35:27,440 --> 01:35:29,679
business arising from the minutes. We

2053
01:35:29,679 --> 01:35:32,320
have no notice of motion. Open question

2054
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:34,080
period. Clarification related to agenda

2055
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:36,159
items. Is there anybody in the audience

2056
01:35:36,159 --> 01:35:37,679
this evening that has a question of

2057
01:35:37,679 --> 01:35:42,239
clarity for council? Um seeing none, uh

2058
01:35:42,239 --> 01:35:44,560
council or staff announcements. Go

2059
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:46,000
ahead.

2060
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:47,430
>> Uh thanks Mayor Herford. I wanted to

2061
01:35:47,430 --> 01:35:47,440
» Uh thanks Mayor Herford. I wanted to

2062
01:35:47,440 --> 01:35:49,040
share that on Wednesday, March 4th, I

2063
01:35:49,040 --> 01:35:51,120
attended a youth council event at House

2064
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:53,520
Sound Secondary. Some of my colleagues

2065
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:55,120
might want to pick up where I leave off

2066
01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:57,120
on this. Uh thank you to councelor

2067
01:35:57,120 --> 01:36:00,000
Stoner, Petting Gill, and Greenlaw for

2068
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:02,719
uh the work that um you did to prepare

2069
01:36:02,719 --> 01:36:05,120
for the night and just generally your

2070
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:07,440
work with youth youth council. Uh there

2071
01:36:07,440 --> 01:36:11,920
were uh no Squamish has some very bright

2072
01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:14,800
young people who are engaged and

2073
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:16,719
actively working to make Squamish more

2074
01:36:16,719 --> 01:36:20,480
inclusive and uh offer a wider range of

2075
01:36:20,480 --> 01:36:22,960
things for all young people to do. I was

2076
01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:25,360
impressed. the future is definitely

2077
01:36:25,360 --> 01:36:27,360
bright.

2078
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:28,790
>> Thank you for that. I would agree with

2079
01:36:28,790 --> 01:36:28,800
» Thank you for that. I would agree with

2080
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:32,960
that assessment. Uh councelor Anderson,

2081
01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:36,390
>> thank you. Um the Railway Museum of BC

2082
01:36:36,390 --> 01:36:36,400
» thank you. Um the Railway Museum of BC

2083
01:36:36,400 --> 01:36:39,920
is hosting a seat to sky model train and

2084
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:42,159
hobby show. It's an annual affair and

2085
01:36:42,159 --> 01:36:44,080
I've been to a few of them already.

2086
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:46,159
It'll be taking place this weekend,

2087
01:36:46,159 --> 01:36:48,080
Saturday and Sunday, March 21st and

2088
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:50,639
22nd. Fun for the whole family, says the

2089
01:36:50,639 --> 01:36:53,520
ad. And that is certainly true. uh model

2090
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:56,159
train layouts of all scales, opportunity

2091
01:36:56,159 --> 01:36:58,480
to climb onto the Royal Hudson or engine

2092
01:36:58,480 --> 01:37:00,480
number two and other artifacts in the

2093
01:37:00,480 --> 01:37:02,800
railway park. People can ride the

2094
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:05,760
museum's Bud Rail passenger car, be

2095
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:08,480
going up and down the track. Railway is

2096
01:37:08,480 --> 01:37:11,280
topical these days and certainly in

2097
01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:13,920
Squamish. And railway modelers are not

2098
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:17,119
only enthusiasts, rail fans, they are

2099
01:37:17,119 --> 01:37:19,040
experts with broad knowledge of the

2100
01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:21,920
history, technology and possibilities of

2101
01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:24,400
railway transportation. So anybody's

2102
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:27,199
curiosity will be satisfied at this uh

2103
01:37:27,199 --> 01:37:29,280
train and hobby model train and hobby

2104
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:31,199
show taking place this weekend. Thank

2105
01:37:31,199 --> 01:37:33,440
you.

2106
01:37:33,440 --> 01:37:36,550
>> Thank you for that. Um other go ahead

2107
01:37:36,550 --> 01:37:36,560
» Thank you for that. Um other go ahead

2108
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:38,000
councelor Penniguel.

2109
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:41,510
>> Yeah, two things. one uh just we have an

2110
01:37:41,510 --> 01:37:41,520
» Yeah, two things. one uh just we have an

2111
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:44,159
endocrinologist now in town uh

2112
01:37:44,159 --> 01:37:47,440
regularly. So as a diabetic um I always

2113
01:37:47,440 --> 01:37:49,520
had to do my calls remotely or sometimes

2114
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:51,679
they come to the drop-in center. I I

2115
01:37:51,679 --> 01:37:54,159
think I think I was the first patient on

2116
01:37:54,159 --> 01:37:57,040
their first day. So it is a

2117
01:37:57,040 --> 01:37:59,760
endocrinologist that uh is typically in

2118
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:01,440
the city but they they have an office

2119
01:38:01,440 --> 01:38:03,760
here now. And so for anyone uh

2120
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:06,000
struggling with diabetes and so on, um I

2121
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:08,560
I think it's sort of I know there's a

2122
01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:10,159
lot of challenges that comes come with

2123
01:38:10,159 --> 01:38:12,480
growth uh but but seeing more services

2124
01:38:12,480 --> 01:38:14,239
like this I I think uh make the

2125
01:38:14,239 --> 01:38:15,840
community a lot better. So that was

2126
01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:18,239
great to see. Um and then I also just

2127
01:38:18,239 --> 01:38:20,159
wanted to had an opportunity with my

2128
01:38:20,159 --> 01:38:22,960
partner to go to the uh the fashion show

2129
01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:26,080
at House Sound. It was a fundraiser for

2130
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:30,320
uh prom and uh a really great show. Um,

2131
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:32,159
it it hurt a little bit to hear some of

2132
01:38:32,159 --> 01:38:33,520
the giggles and laughs at some of the

2133
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:35,600
outfits that, you know, I think we wore

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01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:39,440
and we thought were cool, but it was uh

2135
01:38:39,440 --> 01:38:41,520
it was a really great event. So, thank

2136
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:46,629
you to everyone who uh put that on.

2137
01:38:46,639 --> 01:38:48,480
» You have to submit some photos to

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01:38:48,480 --> 01:38:52,159
document this. Um, councelor Stoner.

2139
01:38:52,159 --> 01:38:53,669
>> Yeah, thanks to the chair. I'm going to

2140
01:38:53,669 --> 01:38:53,679
» Yeah, thanks to the chair. I'm going to

2141
01:38:53,679 --> 01:38:55,600
look forward a little bit uh later this

2142
01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:57,679
week. We will be welcoming welcoming a

2143
01:38:57,679 --> 01:39:00,400
delegation um of local government

2144
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:03,119
officials from Zambia here in Squamish

2145
01:39:03,119 --> 01:39:04,880
as part of the partnership and municipal

2146
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:06,719
innovation women in local leadership

2147
01:39:06,719 --> 01:39:08,000
program that we've been involved with

2148
01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:09,199
through the federation of Canadian

2149
01:39:09,199 --> 01:39:12,080
municies and global affairs Canada. I'm

2150
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:13,360
actually not sure how many folks we'll

2151
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:15,199
be welcoming from Zambia but there'll be

2152
01:39:15,199 --> 01:39:17,440
a group of folks uh who have traveled

2153
01:39:17,440 --> 01:39:20,480
this way. Um and the PMI will project is

2154
01:39:20,480 --> 01:39:22,080
really focused on achieving gender

2155
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:23,920
parity in local councils and ensuring

2156
01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:26,719
inclusive approaches to service delivery

2157
01:39:26,719 --> 01:39:30,080
um uh in in all the work that we do. And

2158
01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:31,679
so we have been partnered with the local

2159
01:39:31,679 --> 01:39:34,239
government association of Zambia um and

2160
01:39:34,239 --> 01:39:35,840
we've had the opportunity for some

2161
01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:38,239
myself and some staff members to go down

2162
01:39:38,239 --> 01:39:39,760
um and work with the folks on the ground

2163
01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:41,440
in Zambia and this is a chance for them

2164
01:39:41,440 --> 01:39:43,840
to come here uh and share some of the

2165
01:39:43,840 --> 01:39:46,000
learnings in both directions. So, uh,

2166
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:48,960
really excited to welcome them. Uh, and

2167
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:51,679
then also another

2168
01:39:51,679 --> 01:39:54,080
component for youth council to flag and

2169
01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:55,840
mark on your calendars at the end of

2170
01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:58,239
April, Squamish Youth Council will be

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01:39:58,239 --> 01:40:01,440
putting on a one-day event called Rise,

2172
01:40:01,440 --> 01:40:03,119
uh, which the description says, "The

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01:40:03,119 --> 01:40:04,639
Rise Youth Summit is an Inerson event

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01:40:04,639 --> 01:40:06,000
where young people come together to

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01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:07,920
share ideas, learn new skills, and

2176
01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:09,840
ignite their passion for making a dis a

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01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:11,440
difference. expect awesome speakers,

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01:40:11,440 --> 01:40:12,960
interactive workshops, and tons of

2179
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:15,119
opportunities to network with peers who

2180
01:40:15,119 --> 01:40:17,119
are just as driven as you are. And

2181
01:40:17,119 --> 01:40:18,880
there's currently a call out for

2182
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:23,679
speakers, um either uh keynote speakers

2183
01:40:23,679 --> 01:40:25,600
or folks who might want to deliver some

2184
01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:28,560
workshops at this event. Um, and they

2185
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:30,560
are looking for folks who have skills or

2186
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:32,960
experiences to share that fit the areas

2187
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:34,880
of health and wellness, real life skills

2188
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:36,560
such as budgeting, cooking, mending,

2189
01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:38,639
navigating taxes, leases, and other

2190
01:40:38,639 --> 01:40:41,600
adultting basics as well as business and

2191
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:43,840
career basics. So, if anybody has any

2192
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:45,600
ideas on who would be a great speaker

2193
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:48,080
for youth council uh in their youth

2194
01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:50,400
summit um who would like to share some

2195
01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:52,719
tips and tricks on how to be an

2196
01:40:52,719 --> 01:40:55,119
effective adult, I could sit in on a few

2197
01:40:55,119 --> 01:40:57,199
of those. Um but uh there's an

2198
01:40:57,199 --> 01:40:58,960
application form so um happy to share

2199
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:00,400
that with council if you feel like you

2200
01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:01,679
would like to pass it on to someone.

2201
01:41:01,679 --> 01:41:04,400
Thanks.

2202
01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:08,709
>> Okay. Any other comments? Um

2203
01:41:08,709 --> 01:41:08,719
» Okay. Any other comments? Um

2204
01:41:08,719 --> 01:41:10,880
so um

2205
01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:13,760
also attended the uh the youth council

2206
01:41:13,760 --> 01:41:16,800
uh event uh and making the case for

2207
01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:20,639
local businesses to uh I would say cater

2208
01:41:20,639 --> 01:41:24,239
to uh youth and the benefits of doing

2209
01:41:24,239 --> 01:41:25,840
that including suggestions around hours

2210
01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:27,440
of operation and so on. It was great to

2211
01:41:27,440 --> 01:41:31,600
sort of see them really um uh um

2212
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:33,520
articulating what they'd like to see and

2213
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:37,840
not and and being brave to uh really ask

2214
01:41:37,840 --> 01:41:39,280
for it directly from the business

2215
01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:42,000
community. So, um it was great. Uh and

2216
01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:44,639
I'd like to thank both the the youth

2217
01:41:44,639 --> 01:41:47,119
council members for their continued work

2218
01:41:47,119 --> 01:41:49,520
and advocating for

2219
01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:50,960
um the things they'd like to see in the

2220
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:52,800
community and to our business community

2221
01:41:52,800 --> 01:41:54,719
for responding. It was really

2222
01:41:54,719 --> 01:41:58,560
remarkable. We know that uh um just

2223
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:01,040
running a business is

2224
01:42:01,040 --> 01:42:02,800
is very demanding and it's very

2225
01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:05,280
challenging times to be in business and

2226
01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:08,159
there was a big chunk of the business

2227
01:42:08,159 --> 01:42:11,280
community came out to um to be part of

2228
01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:14,239
the part of the event and um I think

2229
01:42:14,239 --> 01:42:16,960
that's a great response to the to the

2230
01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:18,639
youth in the community uh asking for

2231
01:42:18,639 --> 01:42:21,679
that. So, um, and we've already heard

2232
01:42:21,679 --> 01:42:23,040
some foreshadowing of what's coming

2233
01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:25,440
ahead, uh, with with youth council. So,

2234
01:42:25,440 --> 01:42:28,560
I look forward to, um, to seeing that.

2235
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:32,960
Um, since we were last here, um, I, uh,

2236
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:36,800
had opportunity to, um, we have a, I'm

2237
01:42:36,800 --> 01:42:38,639
going to use air quotes, a monthly

2238
01:42:38,639 --> 01:42:41,199
meeting with, uh, the mayors and chairs

2239
01:42:41,199 --> 01:42:44,560
in the Cedr

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01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:47,199
um, that seems to happen every couple

2241
01:42:47,199 --> 01:42:48,800
months with everyone's with everyone's

2242
01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:53,520
schedule. Um, so, uh, was this the week

2243
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:56,000
week before last? Um

2244
01:42:56,000 --> 01:42:59,679
we got together in Whistler uh with um

2245
01:42:59,679 --> 01:43:04,080
we had um uh Mike Richmond, mayor of

2246
01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:06,000
Peton, Jack Crompson, Mayor Whistler,

2247
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:08,400
myself, we had uh Patrick Wiler joined

2248
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:10,239
us for the conversation and he brought

2249
01:43:10,239 --> 01:43:14,639
with him um uh Gregor Robertson uh who

2250
01:43:14,639 --> 01:43:18,080
is the um go through his portfolio here

2251
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:19,360
is the Minister of Housing and

2252
01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:21,119
Infrastructure and Minister responsible

2253
01:43:21,119 --> 01:43:23,600
for Pacific Economic Development Canada.

2254
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:27,360
So when I think about um the needs and

2255
01:43:27,360 --> 01:43:30,159
uh concerns of CD sky, he's a critical

2256
01:43:30,159 --> 01:43:32,800
uh player here and it was great to um

2257
01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:35,040
very thankful for um our MP Patrick

2258
01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:38,000
Wiler who does uh this is one of many

2259
01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:39,760
examples of him bringing folks together

2260
01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:42,719
and bringing the uh important um

2261
01:43:42,719 --> 01:43:44,560
ministers from his uh from his

2262
01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:49,520
government to community. And um and I

2263
01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:52,320
was I um

2264
01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:55,440
Mr. Robinson was very uh engaged and

2265
01:43:55,440 --> 01:43:56,880
very knowledgeable about the moving

2266
01:43:56,880 --> 01:43:58,560
pieces down to like a surprising level

2267
01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:00,400
of detail happening in the ca in the

2268
01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:03,360
ceda sky. So um many of the concerns

2269
01:44:03,360 --> 01:44:05,840
that we uh we have a lot of things that

2270
01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:07,920
are in our direct control uh in this

2271
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:10,800
room but a lot of things the community

2272
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:14,080
comes to us for require this um this

2273
01:44:14,080 --> 01:44:17,679
advocacy piece and um it's hard to sort

2274
01:44:17,679 --> 01:44:20,080
of highlight those places and times it's

2275
01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:21,679
happening outside of direct letters and

2276
01:44:21,679 --> 01:44:23,920
so on but uh this is a great opportunity

2277
01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:27,920
and um I think we uh also showed great

2278
01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:29,679
unity in the in the seed of sky around

2279
01:44:29,679 --> 01:44:31,199
what the concerns

2280
01:44:31,199 --> 01:44:34,639
uh are so um thankful for that for that

2281
01:44:34,639 --> 01:44:38,719
opportunity and um and for Minister

2282
01:44:38,719 --> 01:44:42,639
Robertson's time and um so of course the

2283
01:44:42,639 --> 01:44:44,320
the devil's in the detail. I didn't

2284
01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:45,840
leave there with a giant check or you

2285
01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:47,280
know all the any of those matters

2286
01:44:47,280 --> 01:44:50,480
resolved but um we are on the uh and

2287
01:44:50,480 --> 01:44:52,960
will continue to be on the uh federal

2288
01:44:52,960 --> 01:44:59,440
radar. Um I um last week I spent um a

2289
01:44:59,440 --> 01:45:01,040
few days with my elected official

2290
01:45:01,040 --> 01:45:03,199
colleagues at the at the local

2291
01:45:03,199 --> 01:45:06,159
government leadership academy uh which

2292
01:45:06,159 --> 01:45:09,520
is um an important initiative supported

2293
01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:12,320
by the province to really make us be

2294
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:15,040
effective in these roles or uh aspires

2295
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:18,400
to at any rate. And it was great to I

2296
01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:19,600
always enjoy spending time with my

2297
01:45:19,600 --> 01:45:21,360
colleagues from around the the province.

2298
01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:23,520
There was a lot of given where we are in

2299
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:25,760
the term, there was a lot of reflection

2300
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:28,480
and I I was really struck by how open

2301
01:45:28,480 --> 01:45:31,360
everyone was to share their uh you know

2302
01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:34,000
the strikes and gutters of this of this

2303
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:38,480
work um and um and lessons learned and

2304
01:45:38,480 --> 01:45:43,600
um and uh and so on. So um excellent

2305
01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:45,840
opportunity and just um again I'd like

2306
01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:47,360
to really thank everyone that was

2307
01:45:47,360 --> 01:45:49,840
involved. There was also um I think a

2308
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:52,000
highlight for us maybe locally would be

2309
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:54,880
there was a presentation but from the

2310
01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:59,840
SLRD. Uh so Chair Ford was there uh RCAO

2311
01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:04,880
uh was there um uh and um and the there

2312
01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:07,199
was also um one of the staff members

2313
01:46:07,199 --> 01:46:10,000
working on the um the guide book to

2314
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:13,280
reconciliation was uh was the the topic

2315
01:46:13,280 --> 01:46:14,560
and it was great to share that with

2316
01:46:14,560 --> 01:46:17,600
folks from around the the province. Um

2317
01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:21,760
and um yeah, it was it was quite surreal

2318
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:23,600
to sort of be sitting in in the in the

2319
01:46:23,600 --> 01:46:25,199
audience as someone that sits at the

2320
01:46:25,199 --> 01:46:27,760
table that that um was there and just

2321
01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:29,520
listening to the discussion and the

2322
01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:31,520
context is just so varied for this work

2323
01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:33,440
around around the province. We've had

2324
01:46:33,440 --> 01:46:35,040
some discussion around on this topic

2325
01:46:35,040 --> 01:46:36,960
already in this in this room today and

2326
01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:40,159
it's it's different uh everywhere you

2327
01:46:40,159 --> 01:46:42,639
go. So I thought um yeah that was a

2328
01:46:42,639 --> 01:46:44,800
great a great session and um it was good

2329
01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:46,320
to see that work sort of highlighted in

2330
01:46:46,320 --> 01:46:50,000
that way. Um, I could go on, but I am

2331
01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:53,360
very excited about um uh the Zambia

2332
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:56,480
delegation uh this week and um look

2333
01:46:56,480 --> 01:46:58,560
forward to spending some time uh some

2334
01:46:58,560 --> 01:47:01,440
time with them and uh I enjoy showing

2335
01:47:01,440 --> 01:47:03,920
off uh our community and the more I get

2336
01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:07,600
in the more time I spend in this role uh

2337
01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:10,480
I enjoy showing uh folks from around the

2338
01:47:10,480 --> 01:47:15,199
world in uh local government um not just

2339
01:47:15,199 --> 01:47:16,560
the beautiful bits that you show your

2340
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:17,920
friend when you're when they come to

2341
01:47:17,920 --> 01:47:19,199
your community, you're like, "Oh, we

2342
01:47:19,199 --> 01:47:20,719
also have this and this." Like this is

2343
01:47:20,719 --> 01:47:23,040
the totality of it and also our where

2344
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:25,040
our challenges are. So, look forward to

2345
01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:27,119
having those honest conversations um

2346
01:47:27,119 --> 01:47:31,440
going forward. Um and that's I see no

2347
01:47:31,440 --> 01:47:34,960
other hands for this piece. So, um we

2348
01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:36,800
don't have a motion to close. We don't

2349
01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:38,239
have any in camera announcements. I'll

2350
01:47:38,239 --> 01:47:39,679
be looking for Yes. Councelor Stoner,

2351
01:47:39,679 --> 01:47:41,280
can I help you?

2352
01:47:41,280 --> 01:47:43,990
>> I would move uh that the meeting be

2353
01:47:43,990 --> 01:47:44,000
» I would move uh that the meeting be

2354
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:46,000
terminated. Uh, councelor French, I

2355
01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:47,600
believe you're seconding that. Uh, I

2356
01:47:47,600 --> 01:47:50,159
think I always feel funny calling the

2357
01:47:50,159 --> 01:47:51,280
question even on this one. I think we'd

2358
01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:52,800
all like to terminate the meeting. So,

2359
01:47:52,800 --> 01:47:56,080
all in favor, motion carries. Now,

2360
01:47:56,080 --> 01:47:57,600
council, if you were keeping score,

2361
01:47:57,600 --> 01:47:59,119
we're actually not done our work today.

2362
01:47:59,119 --> 01:48:01,199
We did not make it through the totality

2363
01:48:01,199 --> 01:48:04,080
of our closed meeting that we had uh

2364
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:05,840
scheduled to conclude prior to this

2365
01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:08,400
meeting. So, we'll take a we'll

2366
01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:12,800
reconvene that meeting in um 15 minutes.

2367
01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:14,719
uh will reconvene our special close

2368
01:48:14,719 --> 01:48:17,440
meeting. So stretch your legs, but

2369
01:48:17,440 --> 01:48:20,960
you're not done yet.