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For the 5,000 people who are watching us, we should be starting son and son as soon as we have a quorum. Thank you for joining us.

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Because we had what 39, you reviewed us last time?

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Well we have zero, we're no, no, no, zero, we're not 100 here.

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We

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have

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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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I say so much.

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15 pounds of people.

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I see that.

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I can't do not doubt you.

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I can't hear that.

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I guess I'm not in the mail.

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We can talk about it.

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When do you want to meet 2.99?

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We really, really don't.

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We want to do that.

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Well, I'm just not available tomorrow, but we just kind of agreed that we would do it.

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He's by case, right?

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Week two week.

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Not already on that.

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Yeah, it's a week from today.

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And I actually have to go post to because I haven't posted it yet.

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I just got the minute to go.

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So we'd be looking at Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday.

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We need the prep meeting for the 9-9

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Wednesdays the meeting.

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Yeah, we should really do it before, but...

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Yeah, Tuesday is part of the only date.

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What do you have? Do you have your calendar up?

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I think that you had Tuesday.

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I trust you, if I'm here waving you, I'll just show you

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there.

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It's government, and there's a public, anyways, that's the best time for that time.

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So if that people come to Delaware on Friday, I don't know why you're going to vote

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to be in back, if I can provide that by Tuesday.

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So, Tuesday, we should be able to fix that.

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Yes.

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Well, that one we have for some of the news.

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Please.

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Good point about the finance.

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Um...

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Yeah.

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Tuesday, it looks good.

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So, I'll tell you, if you're available when you're available.

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Should it be?

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You want to talk about it?

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I don't want to.

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You want to talk about it?

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Or you can make it wrong.

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There's a difference without me, you know.

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No, no, no, thanks.

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Well, no, it's good for you too.

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Doesn't seem to work well without you.

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No, nothing does.

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Wait, what's the difference?

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We work that into our conversation and we appreciate that.

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That knows this and much about everything.

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So we don't make it home.

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You know, when is it not a deal, but to a school or a before?

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We sit in the meeting and sit in the meeting now.

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Having posted yet, so I got to do that by 630.

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I'm going to be here.

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I'm going to be here.

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I'm going to be here.

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I'm going to be here.

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I'm going to be here.

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I'm going to be here.

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You can't.

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I said we could do that.

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Is this a house or a book?

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Let's go.

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That's my work number.

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I mean, I have to work so.

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Mr.

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Randall, I'd like one for his beautiful wife.

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We're

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back on,

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so a leading on the proof of posting, but we can call the meeting to order.

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roll number one for attendance counselor Smith president counselor cast counselor Sullivan

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president counselor Lappier president counselor Walzick

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counselor Duhame chair of Liberty

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and present that is at

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six o'clock so if all those that are able can stand for

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the

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So tonight's eating is a budget review, but we'll still, it's a public meeting so we

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have opportunity for public input.

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We want to start with

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budget overview.

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Thank you, Madam Chair. On to Garen, the autonomous creator. And instead of my past PowerPoint, a lot of the information that I'm going to be going over is contained within the program that we use to develop our budget. So, no need to go back and forth through anything, everything is contained right in this document.

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So, as far as the a comprehensive summary, the proposed budget is $22.6 million and

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expenditures, which is 1.24% over the 2627 default budget or budget of $22,22 million, $22.3 million.

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It is important to note that the roadway maintenance resurfacing roadpaving program within the Department of Public Work does not include the funding for the roadpaving.

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For those that might have been part of the board back in 2020, we had a contract with a company to do a analysis of all of our roadways in town.

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And based on our analysis, we found that our roads were being kept in a fair condition.

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I mean, they weren't poor, they weren't support, they were in a good condition.

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And therefore, there were choices that the council could have made.

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You can maintain the roads and an average level, which was below the good level that was established by the group

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or at a fair level, which was above the good level, and then there was the top level which was even more expensive to maintain beyond the level that we established.

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We chose the good level that good level had to cost about $900 a year in order to maintain our roadways in town in that same standard.

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So that's what was approved.

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We had included in the budget $300,000 for road paving.

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And then we established a Ruan article for $600,000 to match the $900,000

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needed to maintain a rose at the level that we chose.

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Obviously over the last several years with the full budget that has waned.

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and given that the concept of the action say the consequence, but the reductions that were made

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to meet the default budget cost us the roadway paving program.

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And what we are doing, I tell you to do this year is take that completely out of the budget

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and establish a war in article for our paving, and have the voters decide how they want

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to move forward with a paving program in town.

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So that's, so that would be a separate war notical.

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And I appreciate the thought of getting creative and having the voters decide about the roads.

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But we kind of have to, you know, fence to the voters, but it'll be a bigger problem if it doesn't pass because it's a war notical.

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So I'm not 100% on board with it.

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I think it's a good idea to be do something else.

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But I part of me also thinks that it should be part of our operating budget to maintain the roads.

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There's not much other function of the local government than maintaining the roads.

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So I'm on the fence.

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I would definitely concur that we do need to be really cautious how we move forward.

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I have a quick question on that though, would the Warren article be for the, like approximately 900,000?

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Or would it be for the shortfall of a 300,000?

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No, it'd be for the 900,000.

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Sure.

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A complete.

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Yes.

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Thank you.

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And by the way, we are updating that survey that roadway analysis survey as we speak this year.

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So we can also have the future funding levels

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as staffs for future budgets.

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Thank you, Chair.

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Are we talking about a one year, one year of funding

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for paving with that 900,000?

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No, looking at the five year like we did before, correct?

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So five years, it was a three years.

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Five years, what's five?

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So it would be 900,000 for each one would be

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at $900,000.

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Or nine times five, four point five. So it would be a four point five million dollar one article straight.

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And we will proceed like we have in the past, nine hundred thousand dollars. And what the ban in the DBW department is always done is identify the roads that are going to be done each and every year.

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I must like the drainage projects as well. I did identify where the money is going and those are the, that would be the plan for that particular year and every year thereafter would do the same thing.

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So, chairperson, so if we don't include in the budget, maybe at a different level in the one article fails, that will be, there'll be no paving done.

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If we know different than if the budget isn't past, unless the council chooses that when we have to make the reductions in the budget or to meet the default budget again for the fourth time.

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decisions we're going to be made as to where that money comes from, and, and, and the past

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years, the paving budget has, as suffered, so it would pretty much suffer the same fate

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if, if it's not proved by Warren article or it's not proved because the budget's not approved,

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we don't, we will continue not to do the, or the pavement program will suffer.

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It's just one follow-up, certainly you may be one of the way till we get to the individual

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budgets, but perhaps it seems like there's some trepidation of how we approach this, so

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maybe we can come up with a compromise, some within the operating budget, and then some to

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complement similar to the March 22nd meeting, which was 900, was 600,000, and that we had

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some in the operating budget, so, but maybe we should just go down that road a little bit further

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before we decide on how we're going to pay that, so, but yeah, so certainly an interesting

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approach that we can take in this maybe an option, but they could be another option.

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And keep in mind that we are going to be discussing public works tonight, so if there's

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more questions regarding the approach, again, we'll be here to discuss it further, it's

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I have one more, and it's really just based on the number so we're in a current default budget.

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2026, 2025, we're in the default budget, but we did have money for saving for this year, even in a default.

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So we've done this before. I didn't know if you said that.

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I'll go back to what I mentioned that we did a road analysis back in 2020.

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And the fair level that we chose had a price tag of $900,000.

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We had $300,000 in the budget.

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We had a war in article for $600,000 making the $900,000 that we moved for.

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Okay, and then that $600,000 was a five year

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born article, and would have been to say, this year's

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last year, this year's the last year.

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Yeah, I'll make the one up, yeah.

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So on the revenue side of the budget, we project an $8.1 million,

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a revenue, which is a 3.8% increase compared to the 7.8 million

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budgeted in the FY2627 budget, wastewater revenue was not included in the FY2627, or the FY2728

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budgets.

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Also, what we get to the revenue side, we were very conservative with the

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guard to the new revenue source that will be coming online when the solar rays come online

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next year, because although we do have some projections, and from the vendor that's putting

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up in this revision as to what the estimate would be, and we can modify, excuse me, we

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can modify that revenue projection before we conclude our budget process, which would be

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next two weeks from now. If we want, because I believe we use the figure of $25,000 in there

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for that particular projection, it would probably be more in the $100,000 plus range with the

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to the potential revenue projected.

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So that's something to keep in mind as we move forward.

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Thank you, Chair. That $8 million does not include wastewater revenues. That's correct. Is there a reason why?

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I believe that the, and Christine, you can correct me from wrong. I believe that the revenue that is generated and expenses that are generated by the wastewater are taken care by the use of charges.

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Okay, so it's something that we report in the past.

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And so when I look at the historical revenues by fund,

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I'm in the budget book, and I see 10 million, 9 million, 11 million, 11 million, 13 million.

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That was all include wastewater revenue, but the 8 million doesn't.

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Correct.

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And the real reason why I posed that is to Andre.

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But he was correct that that is the fact.

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But the wastewater doesn't report to this report.

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they go directly to the budget committee and we don't have any of their information with regards

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to their respective budget or to their respective revenue numbers,

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but historically their

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budget and the revenue numbers are equal so that we are not raising tax dollars for that

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purpose.

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They offset.

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So it's almost like it shouldn't be reported in previous year's revenues.

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Right.

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Right.

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Or yes.

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One way or the other.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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So moving on to more of an overview of

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the budget.

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So in general, if you can go down to the TA recommendations, there you go.

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And we will be going over these individually as each department comes up, but as an overview,

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with regard to the increases that make up that inherent in the default budget,

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that includes the Union raises that were approved by the voters,

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Please, that in 169, 479, a police union at that amount, mid-management union at 70,000,

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32, and the Department of Public Works at 70,786.

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So those were part of the default budget because they were approved by the voters.

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Full-time staffing remains unchanged at 127 positions, while part-time staff were recommending

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are my budget recommends two positions. The proposed budget is recommending adding one part-time

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code enforcement officer, one part-time assistant finance director. We had the last budget,

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we had requested a full-time position, which was of code enforcement, and fire prevention

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as one position, and one full-time position share between two departments. That was defeated

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And the one part, and we were moving forward with a request for a full-time assistant finance director.

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And that was defeated as a full-time.

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We are proposing a part-time.

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It's hard to be so insisted on these two positions, but the need is there.

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And that's why we keep on asking because the workload for the code enforcement officers,

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the one person doing two jobs and there's a lot of jobs out there to do.

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In the assistant finance director, again, there's a lot of information that needs to be

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processed and the request and the ask for the finance department, so you're increasing.

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Currently, you have two people working in that office and an apportion of the executive assistant

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administration project helps out with that office doing AP work. And obviously, if this part-time

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position were to be hired, they would take that duty back into the responsibility as well as others,

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you know, back into the finance office, but also it creates that good support system. So when

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And those times where the finance director is not in the office, the work that needs to be

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done within that office will continue to move forward, as opposed to if it's gone for

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a day or a week, that all that work is not just waiting for at the door because there's

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There's certain authorizations that she alone can do. Our current finance director, and if that shared amongst

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finance director, obviously it lights that low. So that is part of the reason why we are asking

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or persisting and asking for those for help in there. I know the question was asked by

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Councillor Sullivan is saying, you know, it would be hard to find people at a part-time level on

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positions. Absolutely. It will be hard. It's hard to find full-time positions. As you

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well know, we've been trying to hire a town engineer for the last year. And it's

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been difficult. assessors, well, we did. We were able to find a planner who, by the way, will

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starting September 21st, which is very happy about. But again, the answer to that question

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it will be tough, but we got to make the considerate effort. If this is a proof of

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other voters, to try to get help in there because it is needed.

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What we have done this

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year was a little bit different with regard to the health insurance premiums, is built into

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are proposed budget from the start, a 12% increase to our insurance.

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So each one of the health insurance lines in each one of the departments has been increased

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by 12%.

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If you remember, or you see in your budget book, that our experience in the past with regards

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to increases in health care has been 15.4% and 2026, 11.44% and 2025 and 11.40% and 2024.

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So if you all recall last year, we had a budget of about 2.5% increase, a 2.5% increase,

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But after the increases that were administered by the health trust of 15.4 percent, you know, that went to about 5 percent increase.

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And I think that aided in the budget not passing.

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you know, because that increase with healthcare was was was big. I got to come in our

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my department heads for taking that increase into their, I should say, including that increase

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into the budget, but also producing a budget that wasn't too far beyond reproach. I didn't have to

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make a whole lot of reductions in my meetings

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because the budgets that were presented were ones

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that were reflected the needs of the departments.

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So, that's what you'll find throughout the budget

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is that 12.12% is included.

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Now, come October, as we do.

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I'm sorry.

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No, you're gonna answer my question, go ahead.

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come October if we find that the insurance rates come back at say 6% that we have some discussions.

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Maybe we have some discussions with the guard to the budget at that point in time of us to what it comes down.

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What it means.

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If it comes back consistent with what has been done in the past, say 12 or if it comes back at 12% we're fine.

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We've already included that because back at, say, 15 again, then we don't have as much to make up as opposed to years past.

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Can we take a couple questions?

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Go ahead.

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Just before we get too far in it.

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Andre, definitely good information.

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But I have questions about the, at in the part-time code enforcement officer.

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But you'd also reference, when we, when you would ask for this position previously,

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it was a full time, but fire, what did you say fire prevention?

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Yeah.

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Fire inspector.

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If we have a fire prevention officer now, that's einto spary.

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And what we are looking to do is create one position that would aid both of them, both

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departments.

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One can do code enforcement officer and building, but given that some of their duties overlap,

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this would be a person that can also help out with the assembly space reviews.

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All right.

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So that's good information there, but I heard just the great fine, so it may not hold any water, but you can confirm it deny this or give me an explanation that you see fit.

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So something was said to the effect of if we were to ask for a part time employee, and it would be granted through a war.

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And that person wasn't hired for half a year, then you could literally hire a full-time employee in place of that. Is that applicable?

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I wouldn't, because we would have money in there for a part-time person, not a full-time person. And so I would.

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And I would say this last year we froze positions, as you remember, but we froze them at

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a full-time wage amount.

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At half the fiscal year went through, we were still able to, if we found financially we're

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able to move forward with that full-time position, because, you know, one, the budget look

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good and we can support it, but that was predicated on the full-time position.

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this is a part-time position. It's funny that a part-time level, therefore, I wouldn't

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hire anything more than a part-time person for that. Right, sure, but it's safe to say it wouldn't

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morph into something different because this is what we're projecting. No, no, because also a full-time

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position would have to come back before the council. If we were to move from a part-time to a full-time

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position. Okay. No, thank you. I do have one more. But I think this may be a fine answer question.

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I know we're looking at, it's showing the projected increase of 12% or 733,900, $9.00 for

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$27.28 and we put in its reference 1540 for 26. Do we know the figure for 26? Is it like

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748 or was it 8? 800,000. You don't remember?

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Because I mean, that's something to keep in mind

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I mean, if things go up $800,000 a year and you do that three years in a row, that's a lot of money.

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Sometimes percentages are easier to overlook than an actual dollar amount, but thank you.

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Sir, I'd be ready to do you have a question?

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No, I had a comment.

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That's all right.

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I just wanted to say, regardless of what else gets said by whomever in this room,

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to 0.88% increase over default with the 12% contingency for help benefits is remarkable work.

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Thank you.

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Yeah, I tried to look at everyone that was here.

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And all of you watching at home.

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Councillor Sullivan.

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Just two questions.

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I concur with Mr. Council Lappier on that statement he just made.

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Is there a point where it would make, at what point do you believe that it would reach

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an increase in insurance is that may prompt us to eat another search for another provider?

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Is there a threshold that would require that?

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I know when it went 27, so many years ago, it prompted us to do a insurance reach.

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Is that something that is being planned or is there something that would cause that to say,

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hey, we really need to do that because 27 or whatever the amount is too high?

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I think there's a question there somewhere.

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What would prompt us, what would prompt a outreach for another insurance vendor?

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And that, I know quite sure if I would recommend,

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as you see, if I were here for that.

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I don't know if I would recommend searching for another vendor.

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I would, maybe look at our plans.

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I know part of the plan in the future is to look at percentages as to, as to, as to,

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of the 100% paid plans, look at possibly looking at a co-payment for that. First, or

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work with our vendor to see whether their programs are out there that are maybe more

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cost-effective. So before I would jump to you because what I noticed when the risk pool issue

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was hot and heavy in last year or two year before.

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There weren't a whole lot of vendors out there.

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In fact, I think more in the shuddering their doors

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than opening up as a result of that whole episode there.

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So, but on the other hand, I found that our current provider,

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I think does a good job of being cautious about cost

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and how those caused our spread amongst them.

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There, there are constituents. Maybe I may be a jump to the extreme of a complete different vendor, but not necessarily a vendor, a revisiting of the plans that we optioned. Is there something that would maybe prompt us to say, hey, what we're having now would prompt us to maybe tweak the offer, offering things, is there something that would cause that to say, hey, we'll be on that point. We really need to start looking for another option.

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on the insurance is not the vendor.

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I guess that's a lot of factors that goes into that, you know, that we would have to take a look at first before we, we, we, we, we go to that extreme, you know, doesn't hurt, I mean it doesn't hurt to put it out the bed.

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Should we start looking, looking at the plants that we offer now to see if we can tweak it?

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Well, I know that that's part of what's being done.

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Okay, you know, so that's always being done. Okay, good. And then if something comes along that says, hey, this is something we should consider changing this type of plan versus

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X plan that you would bring for that from HR or from the administrator. Okay. All right. So you're doing that. I just in my mind, it's want to have that we confirm. So thank you.

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I'm still in the overview and again, one of the, so we just talked about health.

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the health care costs and what the 12% inclusion that we included in this year's budget.

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The employer, what actually went down by 8.2% is our share of the new hands-to-retirement.

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So there is a savings of approximately $173,000 as a result of that, which was good

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and that helped with the overall.

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So, a lot went into that 1.24% increase over last year's budget and this reduction is one of them.

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The budget does support requests for direct contribution for the hook tonight's council

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at following the council's lead from this year of re-instablishing that amount in our default budget.

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I put it in for next year's budget for the Council's consideration as well as some funding for our old home days and that up to the 11.5 percent.

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11,500 dollars in the past, but I believe there's 5,000 dollars in there to, you know, towards the old home day for 2028, 2027, I should say.

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The assessing additional funds to higher temporary office help using an agency and that

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will be shown in professional services.

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So if we, if we do get somebody as assessor, we just, that is this to help out the existing

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personnel there, the clerk and processing all the information. That is a two-person operation

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and there has been for a long time. At least for the last four years, I think, five years,

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it's been a two-person operation with assistance through agency help with the,

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maybe,

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our cyclicals that are done out in the field.

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The community development department

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includes update for the traffic impact rates.

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Currently we have the

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Parks and Recreation fee, the public safety fee, which includes

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police and fire.

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And traffic is the next one that is on tap to update.

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Again, the last update was done.

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I believe in 2000.

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and eight, I believe, for the traffic impact fee and therefore it's due.

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The town welfare line, as you'll see, and I believe that's the first department that is coming up.

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It has been reduced by $8,000.

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I think our director, family services director, has been doing a good job of managing the funds.

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There, and felt we felt confident that reducing that well for a line that 8,000 hours still live,

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left enough in there to provide the services that we need to provide for hook to it.

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But also includes new funds for the home health and hospice care and, and Patricia Kruzso will be able to talk a little bit more about.

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That when we meet with us on this particular department individually.

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Finance, the budget includes funds for a part-time system finance director, which I mentioned earlier.

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The new position will support the operation and ensure redundancy in the finance department.

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The fire department includes funding for a frozen firefighter.

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I should remember last year default budget.

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We froze those positions and this is to obviously bring it back to full staffing for next year.

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And that's staffing and includes PFAS free personal protection equipment and training exercise

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for the emergency operations center.

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The police department budget includes funds for the frozen officer as well, that we bring

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on the full staffing and additional funds for vehicle maintenance and fuel.

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We didn't go as high as we went in the past years, but we didn't given that the, actually,

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We originally were projecting using $3.25 for gas, but given that gas is spiked in the past

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future.

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Our near future, we use 360 as the SML4 for gas and 380 for diesel.

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So we had to accomplish that, especially for those agencies such as DPDF, fire, and police

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that obviously I have a reliance on vehicles.

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Obviously those fuel costs went up accordingly.

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One moment, do you want to wait for them to present there?

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I should do it.

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Yeah.

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It's a better year.

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Okay.

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They might answer more questions that we said.

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It is directed to them.

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Which means you have to go find them.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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And let's see, and I'll not wrap this up so the DPW Department division has funds for a frozen truck driver's position, bringing the full staffing as well, to strike lines and all the town rows, reduction of $600,000,000 sort of row paving we talked about that earlier into a separate warn article.

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The parks division, additional funds would be added to purchase a new zero-term moor to pave the end to pave the roads behind the head cemetery chapel.

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I should say funding was included to pave the roads behind the head cemetery chapel. Both items have been delayed for three years due to the default budget.

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And recycling and transfer the tipping fee line has increased by 4%

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to the long-term contract that we have for trash removal.

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And there's no funds to reimburse the condol association.

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We ended that program last year,

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basically at this time.

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The proposed budget does support

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transition being open every other Saturday,

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so we can continue with that program

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And under the library's trustee's budget, the restoring some of the hours that were reduced

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in 2016, 7 currently, the library opens at 10 a.m. and closes at 7.

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I'm going to use the Thursday, the proposed budget will allow the library to meet the demands

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of the public and open at 930 and each day and close at 730.

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additional funds for books and material, the backbone of the library, and the building

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maintenance has been increased by $3,500, bringing to budget amounts to $22,500.

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This remains the 11,800 and 2, below the average annual expenditure for the $34,032 over

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last five years. And so the TA recommended operating budget is $651,616 or $2.88 higher

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than the default budget. And again, 1.24% over last year's budget.

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And that, I'm Chair, the 2.8 is the 1.24 is what, within your jurisdiction, the 2.8

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would include the library.

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So if you add the library, it's 2.88 increase.

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Is that right?

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Over the default budget.

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Yeah, over the default.

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OK, thank you.

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And so the first item is family services.

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.

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We can go

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to the matrix itself. And in the way this is set up, we have the, obviously, the spreadsheet version of this, that you can see.

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can see the comparison to what's been, yeah,

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what's been approved for this year,

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what to be and put together for next year

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and how that compares.

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And on the second to the last column on your right-hand side,

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you'll see the difference between the last year's budget

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and this year's budget, the polls budget,

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and where the increases and decreases come.

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So for example, as I mentioned, the under the welfare line,

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And I know it's skipping down.

444
00:46:14,590 --> 00:46:17,390
We can go back to anything you want to go back to, but I

445
00:46:17,390 --> 00:46:18,230
can back to it.

446
00:46:18,230 --> 00:46:20,730
But on the welfare line, in my introduction,

447
00:46:21,130 --> 00:46:23,550
I said that that rose reduced by $8,000.

448
00:46:23,810 --> 00:46:25,810
That's where that is represented there.

449
00:46:26,770 --> 00:46:29,710
So the amount that was approved in this year's budget

450
00:46:29,710 --> 00:46:33,010
that we're operating now is $58,000.

451
00:46:33,070 --> 00:46:37,030
What we're proposing to move forward with that line is $50,000

452
00:46:37,030 --> 00:46:39,290
for $20, 28.

453
00:46:40,700 --> 00:46:42,560
And again,

454
00:46:51,030 --> 00:46:59,370
the overall increase to the family services budget is 0.81% over the 27 budget.

455
00:47:09,350 --> 00:47:18,050
And that is relatively minor adjustment on within, I think.

456
00:47:18,050 --> 00:47:22,050
I'm trying to think of it that XEV increased comfort.

457
00:47:23,150 --> 00:47:25,830
Because there was a reduction in the,

458
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,540
I actually that does include the increase in health care.

459
00:47:30,780 --> 00:47:32,260
Actually, no health care is not enough.

460
00:47:32,260 --> 00:47:33,080
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

461
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:34,540
From care and arts, right?

462
00:47:34,740 --> 00:47:34,860
Good work.

463
00:47:35,740 --> 00:47:36,020
Fine.

464
00:47:36,860 --> 00:47:37,380
Minds.

465
00:47:37,460 --> 00:47:41,280
I think it was, uh, salary in the home,

466
00:47:42,020 --> 00:47:43,520
help in hospice care.

467
00:47:43,780 --> 00:47:44,020
Thank you.

468
00:47:44,940 --> 00:47:46,440
So, $99.99.

469
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:54,740
Because we always budget $1 for that line, and that's increased by $1,000.

470
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,220
So with that, is there any questions?

471
00:48:01,860 --> 00:48:07,000
If you would have scroll down further on that budget, you'll see the individual breakdown

472
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:15,000
of the cost, if that's something you want to delve into.

473
00:48:16,500 --> 00:48:19,500
Yeah, Councillor Sullivan, have a.

474
00:48:20,300 --> 00:48:21,740
First of all, thank you.

475
00:48:22,380 --> 00:48:25,340
It's good to see that the budget's going down.

476
00:48:26,020 --> 00:48:32,040
I'm just looking at on page 77 in your summary.

477
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:38,620
It says, recent months, hook the family service that increase in older adult seeking services.

478
00:48:39,860 --> 00:48:48,360
So I'm just trying to inject suppose the decrease, which is good, with the rights in the

479
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:49,160
man's how are you?

480
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:50,060
How is that balance?

481
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:54,640
We're asking, we're getting more requests for services, but you're reducing the budget.

482
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,500
That's amazing, but how are you accomplishing that?

483
00:48:58,500 --> 00:49:02,980
It's not overall an increase in request for services.

484
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:10,100
Families are not coming in as often as they used to that.

485
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:14,380
That level of request has gone down a little bit.

486
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,600
So now the populations that we're seeing across the state

487
00:49:19,140 --> 00:49:21,740
that are increasing for a request of assistance

488
00:49:21,740 --> 00:49:24,160
are the elderly population.

489
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:33,200
And so, presents its own challenges in that their traditionally hasn't been a lot of focus

490
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:44,220
on benefits for seniors across the state, but those focuses are being considered by state

491
00:49:44,220 --> 00:49:50,360
and county welfare offices now, so we're finding more support there for them.

492
00:49:51,060 --> 00:49:55,080
And the other other question is, which I think you said isn't kind of new,

493
00:49:55,420 --> 00:49:59,980
or if not new, the home health and hospital care is that new in white.

494
00:50:00,050 --> 00:50:10,170
Is that new? So, why is it being added? At one time, hooks it did fund home health and hospital care.

495
00:50:11,390 --> 00:50:24,010
And I don't know historically why it got reduced that happened before I was in this position, but they have recently reached back out to us, requesting funding from the town.

496
00:50:24,010 --> 00:50:34,250
They have had reduction in funding from other sources and residents in the town that are getting their support.

497
00:50:34,290 --> 00:50:39,210
Don't always have insurance that will cover those expenses.

498
00:50:40,310 --> 00:50:49,640
So they're looking to see if the town will support for those residents that wouldn't have health insurance to come from that benefit.

499
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:58,520
It just went follow up and I'll stop on that, so home health care is not necessarily inexpensive.

500
00:51:00,260 --> 00:51:06,020
So a thousand dollars really doesn't go a long way to assist even.

501
00:51:06,700 --> 00:51:13,420
So a thousand dollars really is not a lot to ask with a request for assistance on home health care,

502
00:51:13,740 --> 00:51:18,380
because you could that they can run very expensive for a month monthly cost.

503
00:51:18,380 --> 00:51:30,160
So why a thousand they did ask for three I remember correctly and being conservative with the fact that the residents and voters here have been

504
00:51:30,980 --> 00:51:32,800
Voting as a default budget

505
00:51:33,340 --> 00:51:43,520
I'm trying to balance that you know, I have a fiduciary responsibility to taxpayers as well as responsibility to assist those people who need aid

506
00:51:44,580 --> 00:51:46,980
All right, thank you

507
00:51:46,980 --> 00:51:47,700
Appreciate it

508
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:57,200
Question is, you reference day multiple times. Is this, is that a state agency that you're saying they?

509
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:03,570
I'm not sure. Well, like you were saying, you know, I wanted to interject soon or so.

510
00:52:03,690 --> 00:52:09,130
I could, I could use the sentence. You said, but when you were referencing your numbers, you used the word day multiple times.

511
00:52:09,550 --> 00:52:13,470
I mean, is that something that you can actually review when you use it? No, you can.

512
00:52:13,470 --> 00:52:17,450
So like home health and off hospice when you refer to that is day.

513
00:52:17,810 --> 00:52:19,310
Yeah, is that our residents?

514
00:52:19,910 --> 00:52:20,350
Yeah.

515
00:52:20,590 --> 00:52:23,530
I just want to confirm that it's not like, you know, like a fed thing.

516
00:52:23,670 --> 00:52:26,710
We're there over viewing some of this stuff or, or.

517
00:52:26,710 --> 00:52:29,750
So if we were discussing home health and hospice care and I said,

518
00:52:30,030 --> 00:52:30,850
They, that's why men.

519
00:52:30,850 --> 00:52:33,810
Okay. So you're talking to people who are receiving it.

520
00:52:33,910 --> 00:52:34,130
Yes.

521
00:52:34,290 --> 00:52:35,590
The agency that would thank you.

522
00:52:35,710 --> 00:52:37,890
I was just, I assume that's what it was.

523
00:52:38,090 --> 00:52:39,610
But I know it was an outside forest.

524
00:52:40,010 --> 00:52:41,770
And I'm like, I got to understand it for some different.

525
00:52:41,770 --> 00:52:42,210
Thank you.

526
00:52:42,210 --> 00:52:45,170
Dan. Thank you. And I don't, and you can correct me for

527
00:52:45,170 --> 00:52:50,150
Ron. I don't think home, home, house, is care is a federal agency.

528
00:52:50,370 --> 00:52:55,270
I believe it's this the nonprofit agency for focused on helping.

529
00:52:56,390 --> 00:52:58,150
Yeah. Those in need. I'm something they get.

530
00:52:58,310 --> 00:53:00,890
They get various grant funding that comes and goes.

531
00:53:01,670 --> 00:53:03,210
And they also get a lot of donations.

532
00:53:04,010 --> 00:53:07,490
And that's right. So I don't want the council to think that

533
00:53:07,490 --> 00:53:10,650
of the $999 supporting everybody.

534
00:53:11,210 --> 00:53:13,630
It's this our share going to a gigapot

535
00:53:13,630 --> 00:53:15,510
that they can provide the service.

536
00:53:16,250 --> 00:53:18,730
I have to say after last year, you also

537
00:53:18,730 --> 00:53:22,070
cut quite a bit where you could.

538
00:53:23,130 --> 00:53:25,670
And for an increase of little over 1,000,

539
00:53:25,970 --> 00:53:29,410
that's pretty amazing to serve so many.

540
00:53:29,790 --> 00:53:31,950
So that's very reasonable.

541
00:53:32,050 --> 00:53:35,610
Hair to know what all the agencies in New Hampshire

542
00:53:35,610 --> 00:53:44,050
providing and have available to the residents in our town and really our office is meant to be

543
00:53:44,050 --> 00:53:49,770
temporary urgent care to get them to the point where they have whatever other resources are

544
00:53:49,770 --> 00:53:52,150
available to them long term.

545
00:53:52,430 --> 00:53:53,530
That's great.

546
00:53:54,170 --> 00:53:54,850
Thank you.

547
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,540
Any other questions or comments?

548
00:54:01,620 --> 00:54:04,200
Will we let her off the hook?

549
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:04,920
Good job.

550
00:54:05,380 --> 00:54:05,840
Thank you.

551
00:54:06,380 --> 00:54:06,760
All right.

552
00:54:08,020 --> 00:54:10,080
Thank you for your time.

553
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:11,980
Chair, just a question, procedurally.

554
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:19,700
I know it varies, but traditionally, after it's presented, we kind of make a motion

555
00:54:19,700 --> 00:54:25,200
to accept, at least, preliminary, the budget presented for this department.

556
00:54:25,620 --> 00:54:27,140
Is that what you would like to do again?

557
00:54:27,980 --> 00:54:28,520
Do you want to hold?

558
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,260
What do you want to do or do it?

559
00:54:30,700 --> 00:54:31,600
I want to.

560
00:54:31,780 --> 00:54:32,160
I will.

561
00:54:32,580 --> 00:54:32,820
I will.

562
00:54:32,820 --> 00:54:34,440
So how do you want to handle that?

563
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,500
Is the S suggestion I can do it either way, but I've been more than happy.

564
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:38,480
Did you come back before?

565
00:54:39,100 --> 00:54:40,020
Come back to us.

566
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,260
No, we're going to have our suggestions.

567
00:54:43,780 --> 00:54:49,420
And then if I remember correctly, we're still, this is a preliminary, like yes, okay.

568
00:54:49,740 --> 00:54:51,780
Or then we do.

569
00:54:52,060 --> 00:54:53,200
Then after that.

570
00:54:53,720 --> 00:54:53,860
Yeah.

571
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:59,880
After you hear everything, it doesn't prevent you from after our next meeting, which is two weeks from

572
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:07,280
Now, when we finish all the departments, nothing prevents you from opening up anything to say, now that I

573
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:12,100
seen the bottom line, maybe there are some areas that you want to revisit. Nothing

574
00:55:12,100 --> 00:55:16,560
per clues that, at least it just gives us an idea, let's do.

575
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:22,860
I guess I thought in the past, because we can do that at the end, it didn't make a whole lot of sense

576
00:55:22,860 --> 00:55:25,400
to me that we did it after each one.

577
00:55:27,820 --> 00:55:33,840
And the reason why I ask him times it's good to say, hey, the council feels very comfortable with this department.

578
00:55:34,940 --> 00:55:36,580
So the department doesn't have to be in.

579
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:37,820
Oh, are they going to?

580
00:55:37,820 --> 00:55:38,080
Okay.

581
00:55:38,500 --> 00:55:40,980
So you want to hold off until the end.

582
00:55:41,260 --> 00:55:44,660
And then each individual will make individual motion.

583
00:55:45,820 --> 00:55:46,380
Thank you.

584
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:47,420
Thank you.

585
00:55:47,740 --> 00:55:48,100
Thank you.

586
00:55:48,220 --> 00:55:49,400
I'm going to ask a question.

587
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:56,120
And I also was wondering, with that being the procedure that you're going to use, would

588
00:55:56,120 --> 00:56:02,760
there be opportunity that you might call somebody back up during the same meeting with

589
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:03,780
further questions.

590
00:56:04,940 --> 00:56:05,500
Yeah.

591
00:56:07,140 --> 00:56:07,180
Yeah.

592
00:56:07,180 --> 00:56:07,720
Like tonight?

593
00:56:07,900 --> 00:56:08,140
Yeah.

594
00:56:08,980 --> 00:56:09,340
I wouldn't.

595
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:09,980
You could go home.

596
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:11,440
Yeah.

597
00:56:12,140 --> 00:56:12,880
Thank you.

598
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,080
I think it's just good.

599
00:56:14,220 --> 00:56:18,660
Because we'll have time to think it over and in a future meeting.

600
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:19,720
Yeah.

601
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:30,180
And also there's questions that come up to and between say now in our next budget meeting that has to do with if you can get those to me

602
00:56:30,180 --> 00:56:36,600
I can get that to her and that way we can just come back and have those questions ready to be answered

603
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:44,760
Thank you for clarifying that process because we some years we do this and we as we do, but I just want to know what you what you thought was

604
00:56:45,180 --> 00:56:48,460
made sense and I certainly would agree with you

605
00:56:48,460 --> 00:56:53,820
request. Thank you again, thank you for the rest of the night.

606
00:56:58,190 --> 00:57:06,030
Yeah, you know. All right. I know we mentioned moving tax collector around, but she's here.

607
00:57:07,050 --> 00:57:07,430
Yeah.

608
00:57:07,830 --> 00:57:09,590
What's your?

609
00:57:09,790 --> 00:57:11,050
That'd be right.

610
00:57:12,350 --> 00:57:13,930
Get it while you're here.

611
00:57:14,370 --> 00:57:14,610
All right.

612
00:57:14,870 --> 00:57:16,210
That's a good idea.

613
00:57:16,810 --> 00:57:18,850
Thank you.

614
00:57:18,850 --> 00:57:20,130
Thank you.

615
00:57:20,230 --> 00:57:22,810
I wrote a couple down, but some room I don't see it.

616
00:57:23,050 --> 00:57:23,810
I can't see the situation.

617
00:57:24,490 --> 00:57:25,530
I'm just going to put that on.

618
00:57:25,770 --> 00:57:26,470
I'm just going to put it on.

619
00:57:27,510 --> 00:57:29,170
I'm just going to put it on.

620
00:57:32,430 --> 00:57:33,770
Figure it out.

621
00:57:34,890 --> 00:57:35,910
I'm going to leave me.

622
00:57:37,310 --> 00:57:37,810
All right.

623
00:57:38,270 --> 00:57:42,630
So before you know, is the tax collecting collectors office?

624
00:57:43,450 --> 00:57:54,530
have a budget of $382,277 dollars, which is $16,890 over last year's budget, or $4.62

625
00:57:54,530 --> 00:57:55,470
increase.

626
00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:01,080
You go to the spreadsheet.

627
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:07,820
You can see and the change aisle, which again, and I'll call them.

628
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:12,440
You can see 11,000 of that is due to employees.

629
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:19,920
A tool of the four employees in the task collector offices part of the union, and those union

630
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:24,180
increases are a factor then there as well.

631
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:32,840
And again, the health insurance was increased, so that's 72702,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

632
00:58:32,860 --> 00:58:38,020
and five dollars represents that 12% increase over the preceding year.

633
00:58:38,020 --> 00:58:50,860
And then the remaining, as you can see, there's some additions, but there are also some reductions along the way, as you work your way down towards the final total.

634
00:58:52,560 --> 00:59:06,320
So, this kind of want to hit those highlights and take on any questions that you may have. Also, too, as you can see under retirement, that was reduced and that reduction is reflected in her budget as well.

635
00:59:25,810 --> 00:59:27,110
return receipt.

636
00:59:33,470 --> 00:59:35,090
I don't look ups and enough.

637
00:59:35,090 --> 00:59:37,250
That's five. Go right ahead.

638
00:59:38,090 --> 00:59:38,590
All right, no fighting.

639
00:59:39,750 --> 00:59:40,550
Okay, I'll go ahead.

640
00:59:42,110 --> 00:59:50,890
I just was wondering if the feeling is that the tax office has the right number of staff.

641
00:59:52,650 --> 00:59:54,870
Meaning more than four or less than four.

642
00:59:55,030 --> 00:59:56,270
Do you have the right number?

643
00:59:56,450 --> 00:59:57,690
Yes, at four.

644
00:59:57,690 --> 00:59:58,610
I have four.

645
00:59:59,870 --> 00:59:59,970
Yeah.

646
01:00:01,260 --> 01:00:01,860
Okay.

647
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:16,120
On the two clerk's mid-management, is that figure both pay or is that a single pay? That's the two combined, the 99, 99, 86.

648
01:00:17,980 --> 01:00:22,080
I'm sorry, where are you looking at the 99? Full-time wages. Full-time wages?

649
01:00:23,020 --> 01:00:23,540
Yes.

650
01:00:23,540 --> 01:00:25,000
Yes, that would be the truth.

651
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:26,200
Let's do it in half.

652
01:00:27,100 --> 01:00:27,260
Yeah.

653
01:00:27,260 --> 01:00:28,540
I don't like that.

654
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,970
Do you want to take that?

655
01:00:32,530 --> 01:00:35,960
Thank you.

656
01:00:53,570 --> 01:00:55,050
Don't go inside some of them.

657
01:00:55,470 --> 01:00:56,870
Um, just a question.

658
01:00:58,030 --> 01:00:59,030
I'm going to health insurance.

659
01:00:59,690 --> 01:01:00,650
You said this for.

660
01:01:01,170 --> 01:01:03,290
But you confirmed is what you need.

661
01:01:03,610 --> 01:01:07,070
But it just has one single one family went off doubt.

662
01:01:07,430 --> 01:01:07,770
Correct.

663
01:01:08,150 --> 01:01:08,730
What is it?

664
01:01:08,790 --> 01:01:09,290
Fourth one.

665
01:01:09,290 --> 01:01:20,130
So, there's one employee who is on a stipend because of the arrangement they have, one has insurance through another employee in the town.

666
01:01:21,310 --> 01:01:23,190
And then there's two of us on insurance.

667
01:01:23,450 --> 01:01:23,850
All right.

668
01:01:24,230 --> 01:01:26,010
Okay, I can, oh, tell them.

669
01:01:26,510 --> 01:01:30,270
Can I make the assumption that that newest one is on the stipend plan?

670
01:01:30,370 --> 01:01:30,690
No.

671
01:01:31,050 --> 01:01:31,170
No.

672
01:01:31,370 --> 01:01:31,690
Okay.

673
01:01:31,690 --> 01:01:39,370
So, and it doesn't list the stipend for that fourth person where would that be worth it?

674
01:01:39,370 --> 01:01:42,350
It's listed it should be listed on there.

675
01:01:42,510 --> 01:01:44,670
Oh, okay

676
01:01:44,670 --> 01:01:46,810
All right, but there's no

677
01:01:46,810 --> 01:01:52,970
Yeah, I'm trying to catch up. Yeah, so the sink. There's a sink. All right. No, so there's a cause for the stipend for the

678
01:01:53,540 --> 01:02:01,670
In the single look. Okay, I see it there go I see it right down below. Sorry. No, no. No, I said to catch a real bait. I just didn't really

679
01:02:01,690 --> 01:02:02,530
it right.

680
01:02:12,820 --> 01:02:16,720
Okay. Okay. One is opt out and one is the stipend. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. There we go.

681
01:02:49,190 --> 01:02:53,210
Everybody. Any other questions or comments?

682
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:56,060
Good.

683
01:03:03,900 --> 01:03:04,600
All right.

684
01:03:06,500 --> 01:03:11,460
Thank you. Thank you guys for your time. I appreciate it. Have a good night.

685
01:03:12,180 --> 01:03:19,740
Thank you. Thank you. All right. Next up is Public Works.

686
01:03:35,510 --> 01:03:39,890
So with the five pages that again, one third, yeah, one third.

687
01:03:40,550 --> 01:03:41,450
Thank you.

688
01:03:41,590 --> 01:03:44,530
Or we can go in order highway parks and then we're cycling.

689
01:03:48,980 --> 01:03:53,040
I believe overall of the five million,

690
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:56,660
three hundred and seventy thousand,

691
01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:02,460
seventy-one dollars is a minus of 284,959

692
01:04:02,460 --> 01:04:12,080
or minus five percent reduction from the less than a 20, 20, 7 budget. As we

693
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:16,240
alluded to earlier, that's primarily due to the pavement program being

694
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:21,580
taking out of the budget and being proposed as a more and article.

695
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:25,960
And also this

696
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:30,940
budget, that's reflected, has been stated before and other budgets. A 12% increase in

697
01:04:30,940 --> 01:04:42,880
care cost was included and but other than that we can go through each one of the

698
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:46,500
departments the divisions and

699
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,380
you know have questions on the way I have the

700
01:04:52,380 --> 01:04:59,160
spreadsheet can we I'm sorry thank you I just want to really lay out

701
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:07,100
The resurfacing funding, because I feel like it's going to come up again. The way that we try to get to

702
01:05:07,100 --> 01:05:13,780
900,000 by putting 300,000 in the budget and putting 600,000 in a five-year, warn article, that

703
01:05:13,780 --> 01:05:21,140
600,000 per year passed for five years. And what we did during the default budgets is we got rid

704
01:05:21,140 --> 01:05:26,740
of the 300,000 that was in the budget by itself. So we still have been doing 600,000

705
01:05:27,620 --> 01:05:30,140
dollars of paving every year.

706
01:05:33,350 --> 01:05:36,650
And when the study that we originally did said we need to do

707
01:05:36,650 --> 01:05:41,610
$900,000 worth of paving. In order to get to, I don't know, at level, so you could eat dinner

708
01:05:41,610 --> 01:05:42,230
off the streets.

709
01:05:42,530 --> 01:05:43,070
I don't think I know.

710
01:05:43,110 --> 01:05:49,770
Well, actually, you know, Huxit had been doing a good job of maintaining the roads. And to maintain

711
01:05:49,770 --> 01:05:55,730
that good job, that the premier that you can eat off of, but you can maybe have a dessert off

712
01:05:55,730 --> 01:05:55,990
of it.

713
01:05:55,990 --> 01:06:03,310
Yeah, I'll tell you my street looks like spaghetti because of all the seal cracking on it. So if you want to put my street on the top of the list

714
01:06:05,580 --> 01:06:07,880
Don't put my street on the top of the list. I look really bad

715
01:06:09,140 --> 01:06:11,540
However, I think we should however

716
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:13,440
That approach

717
01:06:14,340 --> 01:06:15,220
Kind of

718
01:06:15,220 --> 01:06:21,280
Backstop this in the past because if the worn article failed we still had 300k of paving in the budget and

719
01:06:22,140 --> 01:06:27,220
When the worn article passed then we had that 300k buffer to deal with default

720
01:06:27,220 --> 01:06:34,480
budget. So we've been able to maintain the roads by taking an approach, a balanced approach

721
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:38,140
of budget versus worn article, and I just want to point that out, since we're on that line

722
01:06:38,140 --> 01:06:38,560
out of rare.

723
01:06:44,990 --> 01:06:53,370
So there's no money for a paving in the operating budget. No. Okay. And if we did

724
01:06:53,370 --> 01:06:59,490
the approach to about maybe doing as we did before 300 in the budget and 600 to complement

725
01:06:59,490 --> 01:07:04,590
that to get to the 900, which is that eating off a road that looks like spaghetti.

726
01:07:06,530 --> 01:07:14,330
What would, if we did add $300,000, is that a, instead of being $1.24, I don't know what

727
01:07:14,330 --> 01:07:17,190
that would increase the, that would still be under two percent.

728
01:07:17,370 --> 01:07:22,850
Well, I would, and just want to, and Ben can correct me if I'm wrong, but if you, right now,

729
01:07:22,850 --> 01:07:25,910
the overall budget

730
01:07:29,300 --> 01:07:37,980
is $284,959 less than the last year.

731
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:45,680
So if you add $300,000 to that, you'll be adding, I guess, $555,000, more.

732
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:51,920
Okay, so that would not look too bad for budget president aging.

733
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:59,100
if we added the renewables still only, not percent of the money, so the worst case scenario,

734
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:08,740
if we do not put the $300,000 in, and we do not get the $600,000, or $900,000, or whatever,

735
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:18,230
that may be what's the plan to address any road pavement or

736
01:08:20,310 --> 01:08:21,130
what would happen?

737
01:08:21,130 --> 01:08:36,130
We would maintain potholes, minor cotton repaves within the highway road maintenance budget line.

738
01:08:37,210 --> 01:08:41,490
So, certainly there would be less that could be done.

739
01:08:41,930 --> 01:08:46,450
I mean, no new road to be resurfaced, but potholes would be repaired.

740
01:08:46,450 --> 01:08:55,490
You know, certain areas that are cracking or, you know, those, those repairs could be done, but, you know, it'd be limited.

741
01:08:57,910 --> 01:08:58,910
Just one follow-up.

742
01:09:01,820 --> 01:09:08,540
What, collectively, between the administration, the administrative and you, the use of resurfacing.

743
01:09:09,100 --> 01:09:09,920
Are you comfortable?

744
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,720
Throwing that dice to see.

745
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:21,940
I mean you would you would go one year and clearly explain why that one article makes sense.

746
01:09:22,220 --> 01:09:23,880
Yes, versus that one.

747
01:09:24,060 --> 01:09:32,920
So I did want to touch on more is what Andre was stating when he did his introduction that we are assessing the roads currently.

748
01:09:33,060 --> 01:09:33,520
And then through.

749
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:42,640
So we have this technology that we've been driving around the roads all last week and a week before that is scanning all the roads that light our.

750
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,800
I don't know if you saw that instrument on the town vehicle,

751
01:09:45,440 --> 01:09:48,720
but we have driven every town roadway, collecting all that data.

752
01:09:50,380 --> 01:09:55,320
So that's gonna have a very good visual presentation

753
01:09:55,980 --> 01:09:57,700
that I will bring in two council

754
01:09:57,700 --> 01:09:59,960
when we talk about warm articles for paving.

755
01:10:00,270 --> 01:10:15,770
And that's a online web-based software program. It will give you a Google Street View and it will highlight every crack, pot hole, any type of issue that is with the roadway.

756
01:10:16,230 --> 01:10:25,710
It will summarize roadways, what ones are the worst, what ones are the best, and you can drill down and look where those areas that need to be worked on.

757
01:10:25,710 --> 01:10:34,270
And it's a very good visual aid and a presentation to the public to counsel and it will help

758
01:10:34,270 --> 01:10:38,110
to develop our budget for that war article for five years.

759
01:10:40,050 --> 01:10:46,190
So there will be more to present when we talk about the war article and I'll demonstrate

760
01:10:46,190 --> 01:10:52,190
this web-based program and show everybody the tools that we have and I think with that you

761
01:10:52,190 --> 01:10:59,350
can show the public and everybody, you know, the plan and approach to the next five years of

762
01:10:59,350 --> 01:11:05,950
how we want to spend the dollars and also exactly what we want to try to aim for a budget

763
01:11:05,950 --> 01:11:13,270
because I heard 900,000 being spoken earlier, you know, I don't know right now that's getting

764
01:11:13,270 --> 01:11:19,090
the information finalized yet. If that's truly where we want to be at, you know, as Andre mentioned,

765
01:11:19,090 --> 01:11:23,550
Do we want to maintain, are we going to not maintain with 900,000 years that could have

766
01:11:23,550 --> 01:11:27,110
still degrade our roads and our score ratings going to continue going down?

767
01:11:27,930 --> 01:11:32,890
So that information is going to be presented to kind of help us hone in on what we think

768
01:11:32,890 --> 01:11:34,770
the best budget is for forpaving.

769
01:11:35,770 --> 01:11:40,190
It should be noted to that you figure that that 900,000 dollars in maintaining our road at a

770
01:11:40,190 --> 01:11:43,070
good level was 20, 20, 20 figures.

771
01:11:43,750 --> 01:11:50,350
And the 2026-27 or 2027-28 figures are going to be, I'm guessing, going to be different.

772
01:11:51,330 --> 01:11:59,630
So ultimately comes down to whether we want to roll the dice with not having any in the operating budget or half and half.

773
01:12:00,530 --> 01:12:02,110
Well, thank you.

774
01:12:02,390 --> 01:12:02,710
Yes, yes.

775
01:12:02,870 --> 01:12:08,730
I mean, if you only have a couple hundred thousand dollars in the operating budget, can we do a lot of paving?

776
01:12:08,730 --> 01:12:15,750
no, we could focus on one or two roads or some other treatments that are kind of spread that

777
01:12:15,750 --> 01:12:21,690
dollars, the dollars out. But ultimately, that little bit of money, it'll help, but it

778
01:12:21,690 --> 01:12:23,970
won't certainly do a lot.

779
01:12:24,650 --> 01:12:31,330
So, and I think we've heard from, like, they like to know what they're spending that money

780
01:12:31,330 --> 01:12:38,090
on. And I think that they would like to see that that is a war and article that they can

781
01:12:38,090 --> 01:12:40,410
decide and do their research,

782
01:12:42,610 --> 01:12:49,050
and so versus just part of the budget, and then you don't really know.

783
01:12:49,390 --> 01:12:49,470
I see.

784
01:12:50,250 --> 01:12:53,790
And again, this is another thing that, again, bring correct me if I'm wrong.

785
01:12:53,950 --> 01:12:59,770
But I just remember back at the, actually, even the town before this, we did the same kind of analysis.

786
01:12:59,930 --> 01:13:03,130
But I think there's a hierarchy of roadway maintenance.

787
01:13:03,590 --> 01:13:05,890
You know, there's the crack ceiling that I think you spoke about earlier.

788
01:13:05,890 --> 01:13:11,010
the shim and overlay, and then there's a total reconstruction, you know, that the road to

789
01:13:11,010 --> 01:13:16,370
this at a level where you really got a strip of tape down to the base and work the way back up.

790
01:13:17,690 --> 01:13:19,770
I don't think there's another level if it's different.

791
01:13:20,530 --> 01:13:24,010
They have a newer thing called microcealing, fogcealing.

792
01:13:27,910 --> 01:13:34,310
There's various levels, but it's all about, you know, do you want to do more minor preventative maintenance,

793
01:13:34,310 --> 01:13:37,510
or do you want to wait till your road is to the point of full

794
01:13:37,510 --> 01:13:39,570
reclamation, like Andre just mentioned.

795
01:13:40,170 --> 01:13:44,670
If we can get on the path of doing a portion of our budget

796
01:13:44,670 --> 01:13:49,170
to in full road repairs, and then a lot of it is maintenance and

797
01:13:49,170 --> 01:13:52,510
trying to extend that life of the roadway, that is historically

798
01:13:52,510 --> 01:13:56,210
shown to make your budget go further into the future,

799
01:13:56,430 --> 01:14:00,690
because you're not doing the most costly correction to that road.

800
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:18,880
And it's not germane to the road paving, but I think road maintenance construction materials, I have a number, but it was 60,000, it's a 10,000 increase, I had just a question.

801
01:14:19,480 --> 01:14:22,180
Yeah, so like this year, that 10,000 increase.

802
01:14:22,580 --> 01:14:31,620
Yeah, it was previously at that. This year, this default, we lowered it to 10, 5, 10,000 to 15, just to get through this year's default.

803
01:14:31,620 --> 01:14:39,260
So the intent was to get that bump back up to where it was prior years. Okay, so it's not it's going back to what we we

804
01:14:39,260 --> 01:14:42,760
Quest in the past. All right, thank you. Thank you. Yeah

805
01:14:46,510 --> 01:14:58,310
So we covered the overall at about 5% less going into the highway division. You know that is about 13% less than the 2027 budget

806
01:15:00,940 --> 01:15:26,440
The $2,869, which is $428,826 less than the 27 budget and moving down to the spreadsheet again, taking into consideration the increase in the health care.

807
01:15:26,440 --> 01:15:55,520
It does support this DPW in general is has supported by two, yes, two unions, the DPW union and the middle management union and therefore those in the employee and the full ton of employees, you'll see reflected the approved budgets and what those are going to be.

808
01:15:55,520 --> 01:16:01,260
And there are, your executive staff is longing, I believe, correct.

809
01:16:10,110 --> 01:16:15,770
And again, healthcare costs were increased by 12% here, as well as all the other divisions.

810
01:16:16,590 --> 01:16:24,310
And the retirement was reduced in accordance with the savings that we derived this year as

811
01:16:24,310 --> 01:16:25,410
So

812
01:16:31,100 --> 01:16:39,940
obviously the first section of the employees and benefits and then you have the professional

813
01:16:39,940 --> 01:16:40,940
services.

814
01:16:41,820 --> 01:16:42,620
You

815
01:16:45,020 --> 01:16:53,540
see an increase under the road maintenance professional services of 33,000, 500 dollars.

816
01:16:54,540 --> 01:16:57,740
That was a put line striping in that year.

817
01:16:57,740 --> 01:17:00,460
So this current year, we don't have line striping in the budget.

818
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:04,280
We're going to go every other year for line striping.

819
01:17:06,440 --> 01:17:08,700
And this will be an obviously at all a year.

820
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:14,100
We, technically, we carried over last year.

821
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:17,640
We, in comfort last year's line striping to do it this summer.

822
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:21,020
So next summer, we won't do any line striping.

823
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:24,420
And then the following spring, we will do line striping.

824
01:17:24,420 --> 01:17:25,240
And

825
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:46,540
so that is the professional service area moving on to professional services and rental.

826
01:17:47,540 --> 01:17:49,940
Is there any questions?

827
01:17:51,620 --> 01:17:54,600
The $3,000 increase, that's under road maintenance.

828
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:58,560
The road maintenance, vehicle maintenance.

829
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:07,950
The increase of that is any questions on that increase or any other.

830
01:18:07,950 --> 01:18:10,270
did you see in that category?

831
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:27,360
Do you guys take time to re-throw highway division, but give us a nod if the questions

832
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:30,340
are point more explanations?

833
01:18:35,580 --> 01:18:44,060
And even though I pointed out some of the higher amounts, if you look at the total for that

834
01:18:44,060 --> 01:18:51,100
particular grouping, you know, it's a $5,150 increase, because when you factor in the decreases

835
01:18:51,100 --> 01:18:53,700
that were made as a result of the review,

836
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,060
you can see their end result of that.

837
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:05,120
If there's no questions on that, now we get to see the other category, which is telephones,

838
01:19:05,260 --> 01:19:13,060
advertising postage mileage, that is based on what we do have, but you know, for that,

839
01:19:13,060 --> 01:19:14,220
decrease by $100,

840
01:19:16,260 --> 01:19:20,280
and that's sector moving on supplies.

841
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:28,920
That has an increase of $12,128, which is the primary

842
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:31,900
factor there is the electrical, some

843
01:19:37,470 --> 01:19:38,250
of that back with the

844
01:19:38,250 --> 01:19:39,010
Ebola array.

845
01:19:41,250 --> 01:19:45,330
That electrical is that wiring up the contractors?

846
01:19:45,330 --> 01:19:53,670
No, that's this town building electric, so DPW pays all the electric bills for ever source, so it's all grouped in there.

847
01:19:56,740 --> 01:19:59,960
The rate is by the usage is what you...

848
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,160
We see reflected in that line.

849
01:20:07,550 --> 01:20:13,490
Moving on the property, do equipment resurfacing, construction materials. I think you're

850
01:20:13,490 --> 01:20:24,720
going to ask that question regarding that, but ending in time building, is that TV, time building? Yes.

851
01:20:31,740 --> 01:20:35,340
And again, the big reduction there is a resurfacing that we've been talking about.

852
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:40,540
So any other question

853
01:20:40,540 --> 01:20:43,480
that division before we move to Parks and Rec.

854
01:20:50,780 --> 01:20:55,540
If anyone has questions later on, you know, certainly we'll answer anything if you

855
01:20:55,540 --> 01:20:56,860
guys think of it later.

856
01:20:58,300 --> 01:20:59,360
How are the vehicles doing?

857
01:21:00,480 --> 01:21:07,960
Hold them up, yep, we got great mechanics, they do everything they can to keep everything

858
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:14,520
going, nothing goes out on the road if it has warning lights on it, you know, so we're doing

859
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:15,200
well.

860
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:16,440
All right,

861
01:21:22,850 --> 01:21:40,830
so the parking recreation and cemetery division that is up 10.31% from which is an increase with a budget of 819,426 dollars, which is 76,556 over the 27 budget,

862
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:50,060
moving down to

863
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:54,920
the payroll and benefits section.

864
01:21:54,920 --> 01:22:00,880
section that have an overall increase of $8,361.

865
01:22:01,540 --> 01:22:07,320
I believe, much like the last division, as still represents there are union members

866
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:14,320
part of this division, and those increases are reflected in that line.

867
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:23,440
Insurance, again, that 13,000 represents the overall insurance that 12% increase over the last year.

868
01:22:23,440 --> 01:22:23,960
amount,

869
01:22:30,230 --> 01:22:37,070
I think that takes up a line share, especially when you reduce by the amounts that

870
01:22:37,070 --> 01:22:43,830
were reduced one during the retirement, the other one for over time.

871
01:22:53,030 --> 01:22:59,010
All right, property service in rental isn't actually the software programs there, and there

872
01:22:59,010 --> 01:23:07,810
And this is a minor increase in that, and that's the software for that is covers for

873
01:23:07,810 --> 01:23:08,790
maybe one.

874
01:23:09,810 --> 01:23:14,590
That's the cemetery professional services, right?

875
01:23:16,070 --> 01:23:16,510
Yes.

876
01:23:16,910 --> 01:23:18,250
Professional services, yeah.

877
01:23:18,450 --> 01:23:19,930
Park your wreck, professional services.

878
01:23:22,330 --> 01:23:24,050
I apologize, guys.

879
01:23:24,090 --> 01:23:26,590
We get the program that we run for that particular one.

880
01:23:27,230 --> 01:23:29,950
So that is covering our GPS for the vehicles.

881
01:23:29,950 --> 01:23:36,150
have and as well as checkmate for our, that's right, you're sure to checkmate, and that's

882
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:38,300
our

883
01:23:38,300 --> 01:23:39,240
clock-in program.

884
01:23:44,140 --> 01:23:51,660
All right, property services and rental covers ground maintenance, water,

885
01:23:52,820 --> 01:23:56,160
equipment maintenance, vehicle maintenance, ground maintenance, and rental leases.

886
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:02,040
There was an increase in this particular area of $45,000, $89,

887
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:09,540
and that's primary we do to the

888
01:24:09,540 --> 01:24:19,400
Yeah, that was for that, the paving that we put in the budget at a request by Cemetery Commission for Head's Head Cemetery.

889
01:24:29,480 --> 01:24:41,940
I believe the plan is to put in more fences at Denati as part of that project that the project manager was working on.

890
01:24:41,940 --> 01:24:47,840
And I see that we've got Fence repairs to all parks for $5,000.

891
01:24:49,100 --> 01:24:56,580
So is that include the additional potential fencing that we might-

892
01:24:56,580 --> 01:24:59,720
Well, you're hope you're offering a new fencing, you're not repairing it.

893
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:01,140
Next year.

894
01:25:01,620 --> 01:25:11,720
But, you know, we do have limbs and trees that come down in storms. We had one that hit the dog park this spring and one of the storms. So we had to repair a section of fence there.

895
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:13,220
Thank you.

896
01:25:21,650 --> 01:25:39,200
Going down to the other category, which has telephone internet in all-home day. I believe there's funding in there for all three categories with a slight reduction in the phone service.

897
01:25:51,020 --> 01:26:02,560
Under Supplies we have marked office supplies our recreation supplies safety electrical and fuel again the fuel we

898
01:26:05,020 --> 01:26:06,060
We're using

899
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:11,860
360 for gas and 380 for diesel

900
01:26:11,860 --> 01:26:16,400
I believe you have a mostly gas in the p

901
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:23,060
parking right right mostly yes yes is in a highway division that you're mostly diesel as a

902
01:26:23,060 --> 01:26:26,700
host the highway and transfer mostly diesel

903
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:35,320
and then a new equipment parked in

904
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:46,730
wreck of 185 I believe that's what the zero turn yes so we've tried getting this

905
01:26:47,170 --> 01:26:51,910
on the operating budget the last three years and unfortunately operating budget

906
01:26:51,910 --> 01:26:58,510
doesn't get passed. So this is one of our last oldest moors to replace in the fleet for

907
01:26:58,510 --> 01:26:59,330
the department.

908
01:27:05,710 --> 01:27:09,070
And that is the last part of Parking Rack and Cemetery Division.

909
01:27:12,910 --> 01:27:20,150
On the Parking Rack, the school feels, is Parking Rack maintaining most of those?

910
01:27:20,150 --> 01:27:24,630
What's the mix? Yes. Okay, because I thought we do Moe, Kali.

911
01:27:27,070 --> 01:27:29,630
We do something at some memorial.

912
01:27:31,810 --> 01:27:36,270
We don't do as much as we would for denotty fields and Peter's broke.

913
01:27:37,390 --> 01:27:41,410
But there is maintenance there, but I think the big one is Kali that we do.

914
01:27:42,270 --> 01:27:46,450
We're going to talk about having him give us some other big budget.

915
01:27:47,430 --> 01:28:00,190
Yeah, I mean, it, you move it from ours, it goes to theirs, it still goes to the tax rate too, but I would, if we could get it off our, our crew, you know, it would certainly help them, but it's right now.

916
01:28:00,190 --> 01:28:07,430
Because you don't do the school around the school, because I pretty, pretty sure that's in house on all situations for schools. It's more the fields fields.

917
01:28:08,770 --> 01:28:09,650
All right. Thank you.

918
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:13,420
Okay, no questions.

919
01:28:14,260 --> 01:28:14,600
All right.

920
01:28:17,300 --> 01:28:19,460
Okay, recycling and transfer.

921
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:34,820
That has a budget of $1,688,367, which is the increase of 67,311 dollars, which represents

922
01:28:34,820 --> 01:28:37,640
1.1 percent more.

923
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:40,200
This year's budget down over last year's.

924
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:44,180
I mean, the proposed budget, and then this year, so I should say.

925
01:28:53,620 --> 01:29:05,040
And again, under on payroll, again, I believe this is mostly the DPW Union, I believe, and those

926
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:09,820
costs are cared for and they're in the projections for pay,

927
01:29:14,930 --> 01:29:18,230
holding fast and over time.

928
01:29:18,230 --> 01:29:27,410
And overall, there's a $20,000 one hundred and seventy-two dollar increase over last year in these categories.

929
01:29:30,990 --> 01:29:32,930
It's like reduction in over time.

930
01:29:33,610 --> 01:29:39,870
I believe we use the average over five years in that category.

931
01:29:43,860 --> 01:29:44,420
Benefits,

932
01:29:46,770 --> 01:29:53,290
again, factoring in the top of the Senate for health care cost, which represents the final line share,

933
01:29:53,290 --> 01:29:58,730
if not all of the $8,696 and the remainder.

934
01:30:03,890 --> 01:30:12,810
Thank you. There's health insurance twice. What is one for a rate? There's like insurance for admin and then recycling transfers.

935
01:30:12,870 --> 01:30:14,310
Yeah, you got three subdivisions.

936
01:30:15,470 --> 01:30:15,570
Okay.

937
01:30:17,810 --> 01:30:25,450
So each one of those have been the 12% had been applied for 4% of those categories, I should say.

938
01:30:28,700 --> 01:30:32,580
Well, a total increase of 20,000, 20,000, $23,821.

939
01:30:34,300 --> 01:30:34,860
Yes.

940
01:30:34,860 --> 01:30:43,280
Yes, just question about the recycled insurance for over time. Is that does that represent basically the cost of

941
01:30:43,940 --> 01:30:44,740
sat the Saturday?

942
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:48,920
Not just Saturday, but

943
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:52,480
This budget reflects carrying through the every other Saturday

944
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:59,120
There's recycled and transfer of advisory meetings that the crew chief goes to so that's over time

945
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:01,580
would it be safe to say

946
01:31:01,580 --> 01:31:18,360
If they were willing, and we wanted to open the transfer station every Saturday that this would be less than double, then it would be more, I think it's in the $15,000 range for over time.

947
01:31:18,540 --> 01:31:19,480
You did it out.

948
01:31:20,220 --> 01:31:20,400
Yes.

949
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:24,840
That's hard, you know, we've got three people at staff and on a Saturday.

950
01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:34,220
You have 52 Saturdays to staff, so that's 156 positions to fill, and it's a mix of

951
01:31:34,220 --> 01:31:38,980
you know, admin and collection drivers and disposal drivers at work this year.

952
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:43,820
Yeah, so the budget says 9,000, and you're saying that every Saturday it could be open for

953
01:31:43,820 --> 01:31:44,960
somewhere around 15.

954
01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:51,900
broken up between the admin collections and disposal over time lines so there's three

955
01:31:51,900 --> 01:31:57,360
overtime lines in that division because you have different classifications

956
01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:04,860
no Jesus so okay so it's 11,000, 11,000 and 9,000 is the total overtime right now

957
01:32:04,860 --> 01:32:10,040
our budget yes okay so it's not 9,000 it's 31,750

958
01:32:11,500 --> 01:32:13,920
I haven't added up, but I just did it in my head.

959
01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:15,920
Okay. I'll trust you.

960
01:32:16,480 --> 01:32:17,480
It's not a hard man.

961
01:32:19,860 --> 01:32:20,940
Okay, thank you.

962
01:32:29,010 --> 01:32:35,430
I just want to mention that when we went from every Saturday to every other Saturday,

963
01:32:35,950 --> 01:32:42,170
there wasn't actually a change in the revenue generated from the recycling and transfer.

964
01:32:42,170 --> 01:32:47,370
Actually, if you think about it saved money by doing every other week

965
01:32:48,630 --> 01:32:50,790
Yeah, it's a good person makes sense, but

966
01:32:52,410 --> 01:32:56,150
The revenue stayed the same, but the cost went down

967
01:32:57,190 --> 01:33:01,250
Mondays get crazier though. Oh, I was just gonna say yeah, yeah

968
01:33:01,250 --> 01:33:02,230
Yeah, he was still had trash

969
01:33:02,230 --> 01:33:05,970
The way the next day or wait until it was open. Yeah, but I mean point day

970
01:33:06,410 --> 01:33:11,310
Pulled a Starbucks on so they just instead of going Saturday that week that closed. They go Monday

971
01:33:11,310 --> 01:33:17,350
Yeah, you certainly see a bit of your Monday when the weekend they're closed, but

972
01:33:18,450 --> 01:33:24,730
yes, the recycling numbers and the total time it has come through are pretty much the

973
01:33:27,060 --> 01:33:28,460
same.

974
01:33:28,700 --> 01:33:34,540
What weekday are reminding that weekday hours we do it every other.

975
01:33:36,300 --> 01:33:41,580
So on a month that has five weekends, you know, it's not like the first and third

976
01:33:41,580 --> 01:34:03,340
It's just keeps consecutively going through what about during the week, what do you mean during the week, what do you mean during the week, oh, sorry, Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, 7 to 330, Wednesday, 7 to 430, Friday, 7 to noon,

977
01:34:11,630 --> 01:34:21,770
Well, I was just thinking, because we know that people like weekends, right? That's when everything's doing their clean outs and all of that.

978
01:34:23,570 --> 01:34:29,990
Have we looked at the numbers if we closed, maybe just completely closed one of the other days?

979
01:34:30,910 --> 01:34:31,850
So like every,

980
01:34:32,150 --> 01:34:33,170
What the month?

981
01:34:33,750 --> 01:34:35,810
No, like say every Thursday,

982
01:34:36,690 --> 01:34:40,930
transportation is closed, but then we go back to opening every weekend.

983
01:34:41,690 --> 01:34:49,640
Yeah, we looked at, we've talked all sorts of scenarios and options.

984
01:34:51,500 --> 01:34:59,960
The trouble I see with closing on a Thursday, for instance, is it puts a wrench in

985
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:06,940
Cash pickup, because that whole department, you know, you get two people going on the trucks Monday through Friday picking up kerbside trash.

986
01:35:08,060 --> 01:35:19,220
So you have to arrange that, which sure is certainly anything's doable, but, you know, the other aspect is the employees, right?

987
01:35:20,100 --> 01:35:29,500
Are they going to want to work at every second transition in the DPW where they have broken up days off versus the rest of the DPW?

988
01:35:30,380 --> 01:35:40,440
And I think right now one of the real benefits and attractions to this town are, you know, we've got weekends off.

989
01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:48,980
You know, we don't have many ways to attract employees because we're, you know, we're

990
01:35:48,980 --> 01:35:55,340
a public sector, we're fighting for private sector drivers and wages, certainly play a large

991
01:35:55,340 --> 01:35:55,680
partner.

992
01:35:57,300 --> 01:36:01,280
You know, we can't compete with a lot of the private sector for wages, but where we can

993
01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:04,740
is our benefits, weekends, family life, work balance.

994
01:36:05,900 --> 01:36:11,700
I think if you try to close on a Thursday and have people work Saturdays, you're going

995
01:36:11,700 --> 01:36:16,020
to have some people leave, it's my personal opinion. There we go.

996
01:36:21,360 --> 01:36:22,880
It was pretty much the same question I had.

997
01:36:23,460 --> 01:36:26,400
I just picked a Thursday, maybe the same one day.

998
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:31,860
There are some scenarios to think about.

999
01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:34,520
I think we can talk about it.

1000
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:43,340
I think the correct me from wrong, but I think the Saturday people are primarily

1001
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:45,600
park timers.

1002
01:36:45,980 --> 01:36:46,000
No.

1003
01:36:46,780 --> 01:36:47,020
No.

1004
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:50,220
Right now we don't have any park timers up there.

1005
01:36:50,360 --> 01:36:50,400
Okay.

1006
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:53,960
So it is all full-time work and overtime Saturdays.

1007
01:36:54,140 --> 01:36:55,460
Thank you.

1008
01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:55,660
All right.

1009
01:36:56,540 --> 01:36:58,400
Now, do you need park timers?

1010
01:36:58,680 --> 01:36:59,680
Are you short staff?

1011
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:04,440
We have park time positions, but you don't have many people that want to work on Saturday

1012
01:37:04,440 --> 01:37:05,180
at a dump.

1013
01:37:05,180 --> 01:37:07,520
It's hard. Hard minded people.

1014
01:37:09,730 --> 01:37:11,450
Sorry, I don't want to call it a dump. Transportation.

1015
01:37:12,630 --> 01:37:13,450
Do them a disservice.

1016
01:37:15,690 --> 01:37:19,450
But it has been historically hard to find part timers for that.

1017
01:37:19,530 --> 01:37:20,950
Maybe more kids will go to work.

1018
01:37:22,030 --> 01:37:23,710
Be good one for him.

1019
01:37:24,850 --> 01:37:25,570
Parents are funny.

1020
01:37:29,660 --> 01:37:31,400
I just had one question.

1021
01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:42,660
on the tipping fees that went up, I see on $191,5,000 at 108,000. What's the, what's the,

1022
01:37:42,660 --> 01:37:47,220
who's the guy? That's part of the wheel abrader contract. Yeah, so that goes up towards

1023
01:37:47,220 --> 01:37:54,640
conquered. And that's just part of that annual price increase. And what's the increase from last year?

1024
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:59,420
What was it last increase from? Your said four, but I think I believe it's 5% increase.

1025
01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:08,320
was what 5% of the $102.00 to $2.00 to $2.00.00.

1026
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:08,960
I think it was.

1027
01:38:09,440 --> 01:38:10,220
In 5,000,

1028
01:38:13,490 --> 01:38:15,110
that's, that's, okay.

1029
01:38:15,390 --> 01:38:16,090
20,000.

1030
01:38:16,770 --> 01:38:17,110
$1,000.000.

1031
01:38:17,230 --> 01:38:22,250
Okay, and the other question I see, you break it down on the other tipping fees for demolition,

1032
01:38:22,350 --> 01:38:25,910
that's how much it costs to get to dispose of it.

1033
01:38:26,350 --> 01:38:26,370
Yes.

1034
01:38:28,030 --> 01:38:33,330
Of some of those things, there is actually a small fee to drop those off

1035
01:38:33,330 --> 01:38:42,430
the recycling center correct. Yes, so that goes into that recycling transfer revenue. Okay, so we check the batteries

1036
01:38:43,850 --> 01:38:49,350
No, we don't charge for electronics. Oh, that's okay. That's free to drop off

1037
01:38:50,590 --> 01:38:56,630
That would be a revenue question. Oh, sorry. I think we charge for we charge for monitors things like that electronics

1038
01:38:56,630 --> 01:38:57,830
Sorry, all right,

1039
01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:08,620
so so a point so some of that is actually that hundred six hundred fifty-three is actually some of it comes back through revenue

1040
01:39:09,700 --> 01:39:10,860
on like

1041
01:39:13,310 --> 01:39:15,380
Sure monitors or appliance

1042
01:39:15,380 --> 01:39:20,720
We don't there's a small fee for that and I think you you in the committee look at

1043
01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:24,000
tweaking some of those fees not in the

1044
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:25,520
Yeah, they just did

1045
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:34,120
I think it was a brick and concrete to better reflect current costs, I think that was the only adjustment they made.

1046
01:39:34,460 --> 01:39:40,680
Not that I want you to increase prices for people who drop it off because if they charge them they'll drop it off somewhere else.

1047
01:39:41,460 --> 01:39:46,820
Yeah, that's the caveat, you know, you charge too much for a mattress and then you see them on the side of the road.

1048
01:39:46,980 --> 01:39:48,260
Right, and you need to pick it up on the floor.

1049
01:39:48,340 --> 01:39:54,840
And then we, yeah, depending on pick them up, definitely, you know, you will see, I don't know if you ever go to any other

1050
01:39:55,740 --> 01:39:59,960
Transvestations or ones that you pay as you go, hooks that are very reasonable.

1051
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:03,880
Local press, compared to a lot of the other locations.

1052
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:06,180
And the committee does look at that.

1053
01:40:07,340 --> 01:40:15,160
I think once a year, every six months to see if we're right on or over would adjust. Okay. So that would be something I would ask.

1054
01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:21,300
I'm going to just continue to monitor whether the cost had done things off certain things appropriate.

1055
01:40:22,220 --> 01:40:23,740
Yeah, I would be pleased to do it annually.

1056
01:40:24,240 --> 01:40:24,800
They review it.

1057
01:40:25,660 --> 01:40:26,700
Thank you.

1058
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:32,980
Last time I went, she was so nice. She apologized for taking my money.

1059
01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:39,560
Is that Carrie the new? Yeah, I didn't sure this isn't. Yeah, I think. I know. It's like, I'm so sorry.

1060
01:40:40,500 --> 01:40:41,860
It's like, nope. It has to be done.

1061
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:44,220
Pound the question. Yeah. All right.

1062
01:40:49,600 --> 01:40:53,360
Any other questions for tonight?

1063
01:40:53,900 --> 01:40:53,900
Well,

1064
01:40:56,450 --> 01:41:02,330
thank you. You, you have a big section. So I'm sure we'll come up with a more question.

1065
01:41:02,330 --> 01:41:07,550
see eventually. Let me know. Yeah. Okay. Thank you everyone. Thank you. Yeah, we're

1066
01:41:07,550 --> 01:41:15,140
going to. Thanks, man. All right. I believe administration is up next.

1067
01:41:16,420 --> 01:41:18,040
We'll get that guy.

1068
01:41:33,820 --> 01:41:37,500
So for administration. There we go.

1069
01:41:37,900 --> 01:41:43,240
Shit, you want him to go the administration. I have a couple of questions. I don't know if I

1070
01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:48,400
want to just write it through those now or why don't you want to wait just because we come up

1071
01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:49,520
But the same question.

1072
01:41:50,060 --> 01:41:50,160
Okay.

1073
01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:51,460
Picks 25?

1074
01:41:52,240 --> 01:41:52,380
Thank you.

1075
01:41:55,180 --> 01:42:04,860
So the administration budget is a 2 million is proposed to be 2 million 25,373 dollars,

1076
01:42:05,020 --> 01:42:13,280
which is 71,175 dollars or 3.64% more than the 2027 budget.

1077
01:42:13,280 --> 01:42:26,800
What you'll find in the budget is one objection for the next ten administrator in the salaries for that position.

1078
01:42:27,700 --> 01:42:37,280
Also, I'm looking to propose a reorganization of the admin department to elevate the

1079
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:45,580
target coordinator position to assist in TA, also addressing a concern or, I believe, a

1080
01:42:45,580 --> 01:42:51,820
past goal of the council to have some oversight over the community development department.

1081
01:42:53,020 --> 01:42:59,820
And so that has a two-prong benefit.

1082
01:42:59,820 --> 01:43:05,860
But one is that, as you search for a new town administrator,

1083
01:43:10,740 --> 01:43:12,800
I think it would be advantageous

1084
01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:18,580
to look to find a town administrator that can be just a town administrator as opposed

1085
01:43:18,580 --> 01:43:22,640
to a town administrator community and economic development director.

1086
01:43:25,000 --> 01:43:29,260
Just have to have those skill sets, but I think in the future, I think it goes well.

1087
01:43:29,260 --> 01:43:48,340
I think this reorganization will address those those issues and again, I'm going to get more in the detail about that reorganization in the next month to get us through the budget month, but I do want to address that more sooner than later with regard to that reorganization.

1088
01:43:53,440 --> 01:44:15,310
So, in the budgeting of this, there will be not only increases in the employee full-time line that would be reflected of, again, the re-org as well as the new GIA, but also there

1089
01:44:20,370 --> 01:44:23,270
is, I don't know what I'm saying, just lost my train of thought.

1090
01:44:30,180 --> 01:44:36,500
increases on the professional service, actually, you know, the training and

1091
01:44:36,500 --> 01:44:43,320
doves line in the best because of the, because of the default budget, we have,

1092
01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:48,200
there were some reductions to the training and doves, meaning that even though

1093
01:44:48,200 --> 01:44:56,000
conferences are part of my contract, I opted not to move forward with, without

1094
01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:59,980
was funding that effect I reduced it and two of the three default budget.

1095
01:45:00,370 --> 01:45:08,090
I'd add that money back in because I think that's going to be important to all for you to have when you're, again, in your search for a new TA.

1096
01:45:11,060 --> 01:45:11,580
And

1097
01:45:14,970 --> 01:45:23,230
under the computer lines, again, we will be in our last year, I believe.

1098
01:45:23,710 --> 01:45:26,350
The last year of our IT contract, correct?

1099
01:45:27,050 --> 01:45:32,070
Yeah. 227 would be the last year, so going into 28, we would need to...

1100
01:45:32,070 --> 01:45:32,670
Yeah.

1101
01:45:39,290 --> 01:45:47,210
So the amount shown in there are based on the, I believe, the last year of our contract.

1102
01:45:47,970 --> 01:45:47,970
Yes.

1103
01:45:51,380 --> 01:46:01,240
And the council, and obviously the council can decide whether or not you want to renew the current contract or go off a bit with the, for another contract.

1104
01:46:01,240 --> 01:46:02,260
I

1105
01:46:06,480 --> 01:46:13,120
got a question on the one admin employment testing,

1106
01:46:15,460 --> 01:46:17,600
there was a drug and alcohol testing

1107
01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:20,740
in a thousand per quarter, but the total is 7500.

1108
01:46:22,580 --> 01:46:27,620
Let me see, I'm going to tell you something I don't understand there.

1109
01:46:29,060 --> 01:46:30,580
I don't know.

1110
01:46:30,780 --> 01:46:31,180
I don't know.

1111
01:46:31,560 --> 01:46:31,900
I don't know.

1112
01:46:31,900 --> 01:46:33,320
I found it.

1113
01:46:33,320 --> 01:46:39,580
admin employment testing zero zero one one hundred forty one thirty two ninety

1114
01:46:39,580 --> 01:46:42,740
forty one thirty twenty eight

1115
01:46:42,740 --> 01:46:43,040
the

1116
01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:43,840
I

1117
01:46:48,160 --> 01:46:51,520
mean in the spreadsheet I have a play testing at

1118
01:46:51,520 --> 01:46:52,860
uh... funny at ninety five hundred

1119
01:46:53,320 --> 01:46:53,840
yeah

1120
01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:54,700
dollars

1121
01:46:54,700 --> 01:46:56,680
but it two lines above that

1122
01:47:00,820 --> 01:47:03,640
uh... two lines above the head retirement

1123
01:47:03,640 --> 01:47:04,720
I don't know sorry

1124
01:47:05,460 --> 01:47:07,320
our page thirty two

1125
01:47:07,320 --> 01:47:10,220
yeah i'm i'm not looking at the

1126
01:47:10,220 --> 01:47:14,220
let me scroll down and then get to you are.

1127
01:47:15,160 --> 01:47:15,180
Yeah.

1128
01:47:15,320 --> 01:47:16,800
Let me see.

1129
01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:18,080
I'm not.

1130
01:47:18,080 --> 01:47:19,360
I'm not simple to that.

1131
01:47:26,230 --> 01:47:28,930
So one's a drag-off drug and alcohol testing.

1132
01:47:30,210 --> 01:47:34,790
And the other one is a pre-employment testing, which does not include the fire and police department.

1133
01:47:37,130 --> 01:47:38,490
For a total of 9,500.

1134
01:47:39,430 --> 01:47:43,890
Is a question where I go regarding the thousand dollars per quarter?

1135
01:47:45,630 --> 01:47:46,150
Oh.

1136
01:47:46,150 --> 01:47:47,510
It's supposed to be removed.

1137
01:47:48,470 --> 01:47:51,230
This is just drug and alcohol testing for 7500.

1138
01:47:51,810 --> 01:47:52,070
Yeah.

1139
01:47:52,070 --> 01:47:53,830
They're all nothing, yes.

1140
01:47:54,010 --> 01:47:54,570
I think so.

1141
01:47:54,710 --> 01:47:56,110
I mean, if I find you should stay,

1142
01:47:56,410 --> 01:47:57,630
they thousands out of the court are in that

1143
01:47:57,630 --> 01:47:59,710
question where they came in.

1144
01:47:59,830 --> 01:48:00,050
Okay.

1145
01:48:00,890 --> 01:48:00,910
Okay.

1146
01:48:00,910 --> 01:48:01,210
Okay.

1147
01:48:01,450 --> 01:48:01,590
Okay.

1148
01:48:02,930 --> 01:48:03,610
Let's catch.

1149
01:48:04,170 --> 01:48:04,830
It's no off.

1150
01:48:05,330 --> 01:48:08,070
Matter of fact, I think the 7500 questions

1151
01:48:08,070 --> 01:48:10,750
is lower than our five year average

1152
01:48:10,750 --> 01:48:13,690
because we do have our peaks and valley

1153
01:48:13,690 --> 01:48:15,950
when it comes to new employees coming in

1154
01:48:15,950 --> 01:48:20,810
And in some years, we were, you see, like, we were going to bring in a lot of folks.

1155
01:48:20,930 --> 01:48:26,670
Therefore, I had to subject them to do a test thing, but we believe that the 75

1156
01:48:26,670 --> 01:48:32,250
100 is a conservative number to address our needs and I definitely don't make it for

1157
01:48:32,250 --> 01:48:32,430
that.

1158
01:48:33,190 --> 01:48:33,310
Yeah.

1159
01:48:34,450 --> 01:48:34,710
Okay.

1160
01:48:34,910 --> 01:48:35,450
Thank you.

1161
01:48:38,060 --> 01:48:41,660
I just have three quick questions, health insurance.

1162
01:48:41,720 --> 01:48:47,160
I know this for being covered, again, I don't know who has what you have three two

1163
01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:56,480
person in one family. My question was, uh, we, does that include the possibility of the

1164
01:48:56,480 --> 01:49:00,080
new administrative having a family plan, which is a little higher than the two

1165
01:49:01,220 --> 01:49:04,740
person? Well, I don't, I don't, again, I don't know what the new administrative

1166
01:49:04,740 --> 01:49:09,900
may seek. It may be a family plan versus a two. So I just want to make sure if, if

1167
01:49:09,900 --> 01:49:15,360
if that person opts for a family plan with that be a little bit more than, uh, so I just

1168
01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:20,100
make sure I don't know how much that is, but we may want to just have that just in case.

1169
01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:28,660
So for all the insurances, we didn't go back and update who was on what plan, right?

1170
01:49:29,680 --> 01:49:35,440
So when we do get the insurance numbers, we will re-look at all of those and make sure that we

1171
01:49:35,440 --> 01:49:43,680
have the current people enrolled. And so for the vacant positions, we normally find a two-person

1172
01:49:43,680 --> 01:49:47,560
position because we don't know. Are they going to take a family or are they going to take a family or are they going to take a family?

1173
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:49,160
I remember that. Okay. Thank you.

1174
01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:59,980
Just one other thing. Leases. I know it's only a difference of baked dollars but what's a difference between the upstairs of 93 dollars, least versus the downstairs one.

1175
01:50:03,380 --> 01:50:11,080
Okay, all right, that's minimal. And vote is guide. There's no plan for vote, guys.

1176
01:50:12,540 --> 01:50:25,800
Beautiful. And we've got into the computers and liability question. I won't down. Will you make an effort, reference to the bid going out in 2027?

1177
01:50:27,320 --> 01:50:33,080
would that be enough to cover the possibility of that liability insurance being a little higher than what you estimate.

1178
01:50:35,930 --> 01:50:39,190
Was it this one that we did go to bed and we're going to do it?

1179
01:50:39,270 --> 01:50:49,290
Yes, so if you remember last year for the 2026 we got a 34, I think, percent increase.

1180
01:50:49,450 --> 01:50:56,050
It was like $100,000 on property liability, so we did go out to bed and we got zero responses.

1181
01:50:56,050 --> 01:51:01,210
responses so we had to stay with the current provider. We are going to go through that same exercise

1182
01:51:01,210 --> 01:51:08,650
again. We don't know what our current provider will give us for renewal rates that does

1183
01:51:08,650 --> 01:51:17,770
come in Octoberish time frame. I'm certainly, I am hoping that it won't be near that

1184
01:51:17,770 --> 01:51:28,190
20 or 34% increase, but, you know, so that 419-419-thousand is included in possible increase.

1185
01:51:30,070 --> 01:51:30,330
Just wanted.

1186
01:51:30,730 --> 01:51:32,170
What we currently pay.

1187
01:51:32,570 --> 01:51:35,030
So I'm just wondering if that something you may want to adjust.

1188
01:51:35,710 --> 01:51:40,530
When we get the new rates, I would recommend coming back to the board and saying,

1189
01:51:40,590 --> 01:51:41,710
okay, these are the new rates.

1190
01:51:41,790 --> 01:51:44,410
Do we want to adjust that number at that point?

1191
01:51:44,410 --> 01:51:50,610
because it's such a crapshoot as what that number will be and so that maybe and that would be a

1192
01:51:50,610 --> 01:51:56,420
pass that will be something coming further in the budget process but not right now. Okay, thank you.

1193
01:51:57,310 --> 01:52:00,410
You said health benefit that's usually October as well.

1194
01:52:01,290 --> 01:52:06,510
You talk about the health benefits. Yeah, and we find out what that figure is in October.

1195
01:52:06,650 --> 01:52:14,150
Thank you. And hopefully if it follows the same trend that sometime late September they'll have a meeting.

1196
01:52:14,150 --> 01:52:22,430
to let us know that the process they use and already determine the new figures, but then they'll confirm it and October.

1197
01:52:23,110 --> 01:52:24,050
Thank you.

1198
01:52:24,090 --> 01:52:25,150
Thank you.

1199
01:52:28,490 --> 01:52:32,570
I mean, I missed it in another spot, but the 10 election signs.

1200
01:52:33,810 --> 01:52:41,930
Are we still able to use the ones that we put on the truck or trucks last year and remind people to go vote?

1201
01:52:42,610 --> 01:52:47,030
Yeah. I don't think we throw those out. I think got to two or

1202
01:52:47,030 --> 01:52:53,110
banners that we, um, that one we put at the entrance to the, um,

1203
01:52:53,970 --> 01:52:57,230
transfer station and the other one. I believe, uh,

1204
01:52:57,350 --> 01:53:00,310
at the entrance to out here actually. Yeah.

1205
01:53:00,670 --> 01:53:02,170
Yeah. Let me get two.

1206
01:53:03,150 --> 01:53:07,990
On the, uh, on the, uh,

1207
01:53:07,990 --> 01:53:14,510
So the ones that are referenced in the administration are the ones that like the political ones where you

1208
01:53:14,510 --> 01:53:25,110
Oh, like March for the March eights. Yes, yeah, the ones that you like around. Yeah, I think I think the I don't believe the banners are re-budgeted for

1209
01:53:26,170 --> 01:53:28,010
In this budget yeah

1210
01:53:29,210 --> 01:53:36,510
For years of I again those would be one that obviously the dates would have to be changed, you know, but the banners themselves

1211
01:53:36,510 --> 01:53:39,670
you know, we still have, you know, and you can make a decision

1212
01:53:39,670 --> 01:53:42,690
whether or not you want to be using my put them out of the date.

1213
01:53:42,850 --> 01:53:45,770
I think I think the signs, I think the signs and the

1214
01:53:45,770 --> 01:53:50,250
signs and the trucks are a good idea, and you should continue that.

1215
01:53:50,450 --> 01:53:54,790
And our front end as well as the transfer station, I mean.

1216
01:53:55,450 --> 01:53:58,830
Second Tuesday of March every year for the past 25 years,

1217
01:53:59,190 --> 01:54:01,970
we have to make sure we mind those people who forget all the time.

1218
01:54:01,970 --> 01:54:03,710
Other people got busy lives.

1219
01:54:03,770 --> 01:54:06,250
In the mind, where they go to a college school.

1220
01:54:06,950 --> 01:54:08,970
But, after I, yeah, that's sometimes,

1221
01:54:09,490 --> 01:54:12,030
the mind of that Christmas is on the 25th as well.

1222
01:54:12,090 --> 01:54:13,430
That's probably one that I've been getting.

1223
01:54:14,170 --> 01:54:15,010
Of what month?

1224
01:54:15,530 --> 01:54:15,870
Exactly.

1225
01:54:18,710 --> 01:54:22,390
That would be the same day that Michael Andrew

1226
01:54:22,390 --> 01:54:24,030
finished a 16th chapel.

1227
01:54:25,590 --> 01:54:25,770
Yeah.

1228
01:54:27,390 --> 01:54:28,570
Yeah, it was a 17th one.

1229
01:54:28,870 --> 01:54:29,550
He comes right on.

1230
01:54:32,290 --> 01:54:41,070
Thank you. So the admin budget also includes all the software, or to say the majority of the software for the community.

1231
01:54:44,670 --> 01:54:49,970
And those numbers that you see reflect the current cost of those.

1232
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:16,140
I should say I went up there under further up under equipment and put money in there for a new chair and some monitors for the, again, the next TA.

1233
01:55:18,240 --> 01:55:26,140
I know that the person will definitely need a new chair. That's the same chair I had five, seven years at all.

1234
01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:39,360
So, and all the software, again, leads and getting down to the computer, again, the computer

1235
01:55:39,360 --> 01:55:40,120
purchases.

1236
01:55:41,760 --> 01:55:47,640
We did refine that a bit, but we really wanted to focus on those pieces of equipment for

1237
01:55:47,640 --> 01:55:51,900
computer replacement that are in the need of replacing.

1238
01:55:51,900 --> 01:56:00,180
So, we have four employees, three in fire, and eight in the town, and then we do also include

1239
01:56:00,180 --> 01:56:05,040
laptops and iPads in there too for that $28,400.

1240
01:56:10,210 --> 01:56:18,030
For legal services, I believe I increased that by $5,000, I think last year was 120.

1241
01:56:18,030 --> 01:56:22,930
1-20, I increase the 5,000 to 1-25.

1242
01:56:24,190 --> 01:56:31,050
Again, you can see on that page, the 5-year average is about 1-23,951.

1243
01:56:31,910 --> 01:56:35,030
Historically, we have held to about 110,000,

1244
01:56:36,310 --> 01:56:41,390
but given the volume of stuff that we need,

1245
01:56:41,590 --> 01:56:44,730
our legal counsel for, then that has increased.

1246
01:56:44,730 --> 01:56:54,410
And I think that 125 is a, it is a conservative number, but I think we'll meet the needs of the community, and this is not just for admin, it's for the whole town.

1247
01:56:56,230 --> 01:57:05,570
So our department and all the other departments as well as all the boards that need legal services, it comes out of that line.

1248
01:57:05,570 --> 01:57:12,270
We try to use NHMA, which we remember of, which we'll see the cost of $15,000, $15,000.

1249
01:57:12,750 --> 01:57:18,450
And my budget, to be a member there, but they do have a legal inquiries line that we can utilize

1250
01:57:18,450 --> 01:57:25,590
for those procedure-out type of things, and we have encouraged our staff to utilize them

1251
01:57:25,590 --> 01:57:30,610
for those procedure-out type of questions that get a response, instead of just solely relying

1252
01:57:30,610 --> 01:57:34,950
on our legal counsel because it does cost money every time we do

1253
01:57:34,950 --> 01:57:41,630
car type. So we try to make that goes far as it can. And then under

1254
01:57:41,630 --> 01:57:45,010
miscellaneous activity and association, you'll see again the

1255
01:57:45,010 --> 01:57:50,470
restoration of money for hoaxedites as well as old home day. Those

1256
01:57:50,470 --> 01:57:58,130
have been removed due to the default budget. But again, it's a kind of

1257
01:57:58,130 --> 01:58:05,470
out is not at the level that was before nor of all the programs that the council has historically

1258
01:58:06,250 --> 01:58:12,930
supported such as the Heritage Commission and the and the memorial day parade are not

1259
01:58:12,930 --> 01:58:20,070
shown in there as we we did have an amount in there for those two groups but right now it's called

1260
01:58:20,070 --> 01:58:27,730
this is a slow rebuild so whether or not the council will agree to move forward with that

1261
01:58:27,730 --> 01:58:34,910
is this an attempt to get that back in there because such a popular opinion very big supporter

1262
01:58:34,910 --> 01:58:42,730
of the home home day I think is a well done event and well participated event is this

1263
01:58:42,730 --> 01:58:50,050
that when it comes to budget we really got to focus on those things that we need to do

1264
01:58:50,050 --> 01:58:53,850
And that's the primary focus, first and foremost.

1265
01:58:55,730 --> 01:58:56,330
So,

1266
01:58:58,530 --> 01:59:02,350
that is the administrator about the administration budget.

1267
01:59:07,100 --> 01:59:09,200
And also, economic development, membership,

1268
01:59:11,260 --> 01:59:14,060
and the past we have been participants, members

1269
01:59:14,660 --> 01:59:19,140
of the Manchester Chamber of Commerce, and the local Hooks of Chamber of Commerce, and

1270
01:59:19,140 --> 01:59:26,980
Again, I don't have money in there for that, but the town may opt to maybe be part of

1271
01:59:26,980 --> 01:59:32,680
the hooks at Chamber of Commerce, you know, it does cost money, but it's less expensive

1272
01:59:32,680 --> 01:59:34,460
than the amount just the one.

1273
01:59:34,720 --> 01:59:39,800
And the reason why I took Manchester first before I did the hooks at one is that I think we

1274
01:59:39,800 --> 01:59:46,460
get more, get more out of the hooks at Chamber of Commerce, and as far as participation

1275
01:59:46,460 --> 01:59:48,580
and the things that they've been involved with,

1276
01:59:48,580 --> 01:59:59,260
And when we did the Pavilion down at Peter Brook, they were very, very helpful and introducing

1277
01:59:59,260 --> 01:59:59,900
everybody.

1278
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:09,600
We involved in being an active participant in that and that's not the only place that they've been active, but they've been active in a lot of various things.

1279
02:00:10,340 --> 02:00:17,320
And so if there is a organization that, you know, you may choose the support, it probably be that one first.

1280
02:00:17,880 --> 02:00:23,720
Not that Manchester doesn't put on good programs that has a broad appeal to a various things.

1281
02:00:24,180 --> 02:00:29,240
Is this that I think the support word to be given to the local.

1282
02:00:30,740 --> 02:00:31,220
So

1283
02:00:36,760 --> 02:00:39,720
now that is the administration budget.

1284
02:00:49,000 --> 02:00:52,340
All right, there's no questions on that moving on to assessing.

1285
02:00:53,840 --> 02:00:58,160
And I'll be taking that as well, given that we're still looking for an assessor.

1286
02:01:00,910 --> 02:01:23,120
The recommended budget for assessing is $295,289, which is like $23,206 increase or $8.53 increase over the 2027 budget.

1287
02:01:30,470 --> 02:01:49,810
One of the increases to the full time employee line is increasing the amount of the salary of the assessor in hopes of generating some interest in the position.

1288
02:01:49,810 --> 02:02:01,870
And looking at other assessor positions recently advertised, we're not totally out of the ballpark,

1289
02:02:02,310 --> 02:02:10,910
but we are on the lower end of that ballpark with regard to an salaries for the assessor.

1290
02:02:10,910 --> 02:02:20,990
So what you'll see there in the amount of that line is my attempt to try to find that middle

1291
02:02:20,990 --> 02:02:29,470
round that of what I've been seeing with regard to salary ranges for that position.

1292
02:02:31,690 --> 02:02:37,890
We have the existing clerk as part of the middle management in that amount there is reflected

1293
02:02:37,890 --> 02:02:41,310
of that with the contract amount included.

1294
02:02:44,150 --> 02:02:49,430
Under professional services, I know I'm jumping in a little bit, but I did increase that

1295
02:02:49,430 --> 02:02:58,790
line to for help for that office, actually, I don't think I'd put that in part time.

1296
02:03:01,450 --> 02:03:07,370
Now I did not, that was in the professional service line, I increased that for help with

1297
02:03:07,370 --> 02:03:13,750
The existing clerk was the amount of transactions that take place in the assessment department

1298
02:03:14,610 --> 02:03:26,510
and talking with Elaine and there about the needs of the department and other than we're

1299
02:03:26,510 --> 02:03:28,190
trying to get some help in there.

1300
02:03:28,450 --> 02:03:32,050
Right now, Granny Hills is doing a good job.

1301
02:03:32,050 --> 02:03:37,210
The people that we contract with, they do the assessing work

1302
02:03:37,210 --> 02:03:42,370
and we're doing a fine job, and even at the limited time

1303
02:03:42,370 --> 02:03:45,170
they have in office, they're getting things done.

1304
02:03:45,630 --> 02:03:47,350
The cyclical work is being done.

1305
02:03:48,850 --> 02:03:53,090
The updates, the pickups have been done based on the sheets

1306
02:03:53,090 --> 02:03:56,930
that I sign off on based on the contract that we have with them.

1307
02:03:57,270 --> 02:04:01,570
But again, this budget is centered around a full-time

1308
02:04:01,570 --> 02:04:09,330
person, eventually coming on board and providing some help for the office through the professional

1309
02:04:09,330 --> 02:04:18,170
services line to supplement their office.

1310
02:04:26,540 --> 02:04:32,700
Other than the increase for healthcare that is germane to every line and every department,

1311
02:04:37,400 --> 02:04:44,940
There is nothing more to really detail with the guard to where the increases are other than

1312
02:04:44,940 --> 02:04:51,600
again, to try to provide some help and also to augment the salary and hopes of attracting.

1313
02:04:56,970 --> 02:04:59,970
Is the amount showing the augmentant or do you need to add?

1314
02:05:01,880 --> 02:05:08,120
So that is

1315
02:05:21,180 --> 02:05:28,860
the session. The next is community development, and I'll be taking this as well.

1316
02:05:34,100 --> 02:05:34,860
It's a one-pager.

1317
02:05:37,470 --> 02:05:41,730
And the community development does include the planning and zoning

1318
02:05:41,730 --> 02:05:44,370
division and then the building inspection division.

1319
02:05:47,800 --> 02:05:52,560
And the planning and zoning division,

1320
02:05:55,500 --> 02:06:03,760
is the, we're looking at a budget of $513,000, $450, which

1321
02:06:03,760 --> 02:06:09,720
is a $16,185 increase or $3.25 over the 20,000.

1322
02:06:09,720 --> 02:06:10,960
27 budget.

1323
02:06:13,110 --> 02:06:26,050
This supports two people in the planning side. I planner and a admin assistant.

1324
02:06:32,600 --> 02:06:41,660
And again, I just want to reiterate that, you know, for almost a year, actually a few months,

1325
02:06:41,660 --> 02:06:45,240
because our previous plan are left in the end of June.

1326
02:06:45,560 --> 02:06:48,000
But over the last three months, we advertised

1327
02:06:48,000 --> 02:06:50,840
and we were able to interview three planners

1328
02:06:50,840 --> 02:06:54,380
and out of those three, you know, one really stood out

1329
02:06:54,380 --> 02:06:56,740
and we made an offer in that person accepted.

1330
02:06:57,460 --> 02:06:59,700
So again, they're going to be starting.

1331
02:07:01,960 --> 02:07:05,040
And September 21st, that's awesome.

1332
02:07:06,480 --> 02:07:09,120
So in this budget, one of the things

1333
02:07:09,120 --> 02:07:18,300
that we, as mentioned in my highlight section was we did, I did put in $15,000 in that

1334
02:07:18,300 --> 02:07:31,400
which increased that line by $10,000 to revive update the traffic impact process.

1335
02:07:32,160 --> 02:07:38,580
Again, the last time that was done was back in, oh, eight, I believe, and

1336
02:07:44,390 --> 02:07:47,630
Other than the increase for health insurance,

1337
02:07:48,310 --> 02:07:53,390
those are the two areas where you see the most significant increases,

1338
02:07:54,090 --> 02:07:58,050
with regard to the community development budget.

1339
02:08:02,450 --> 02:08:07,290
The town engineer, again, we as part of the community development,

1340
02:08:07,690 --> 02:08:13,850
I think I said two, but it is a three person shop,

1341
02:08:13,850 --> 02:08:17,670
which includes the town engineer to town planner.

1342
02:08:19,130 --> 02:08:26,990
There's two admin positions, but one is for the works primarily with the building side and

1343
02:08:26,990 --> 02:08:27,490
code enforcement.

1344
02:08:28,010 --> 02:08:30,710
The other one works primarily with the planning and zoning.

1345
02:08:33,230 --> 02:08:39,410
So it's a four person office and I should say five person office.

1346
02:08:40,050 --> 02:08:42,170
We're just looking for engineer right now right now.

1347
02:08:42,170 --> 02:08:48,350
We do contract with Keats Northstrom, that provides the engineering services until we find

1348
02:08:48,350 --> 02:08:56,030
somebody full-time and that salary, again, that you see for the town engineer is, again,

1349
02:08:56,190 --> 02:09:04,750
has been improved to attract, is still within the range of a town engineer and there are

1350
02:09:04,750 --> 02:09:10,710
several towns looking for engineering services, not me in town engineers, and I think we

1351
02:09:10,710 --> 02:09:24,250
are in a competitive range. Some, we are not. Some are offering a higher range than we are,

1352
02:09:25,110 --> 02:09:29,210
but for the most ones that I've seen, it's still remains competitive.

1353
02:09:29,210 --> 02:09:30,450
Is there

1354
02:09:33,710 --> 02:09:34,390
a lot here?

1355
02:09:36,130 --> 02:09:49,490
I was just wondering if the vacancy of the town engineering position is why there is a zero dollars budgeted for engineering services revenue.

1356
02:09:54,920 --> 02:09:59,820
Because right now we are able to for for development.

1357
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:07,200
Review, we're able to pass that cost along to the developers as opposed to when we did have a full time.

1358
02:10:07,340 --> 02:10:13,320
The construction monitoring fees that we charged did come back as revenue for that service.

1359
02:10:25,430 --> 02:10:31,470
The other part of the department is the building inspection.

1360
02:10:31,850 --> 02:10:35,070
And again, as I mentioned in my, I'm sorry.

1361
02:10:35,070 --> 02:10:44,090
Thank you chair. Yeah, for I just had a question I know you're saying you'd like a part-time

1362
02:10:44,090 --> 02:10:51,570
code enforcement officer. All right, so we are in the building. Okay. Yeah, I was wondering if

1363
02:10:51,570 --> 02:10:57,170
there is a firm that provides that as a professional service.

1364
02:10:59,490 --> 02:11:02,330
The answer to that is I believe

1365
02:11:02,330 --> 02:11:11,370
Yes, there are firms out there that offer municipal help in a variety of services, assessing

1366
02:11:12,370 --> 02:11:18,930
building, haven't seen too many planning, but there are agencies out there that will provide

1367
02:11:18,930 --> 02:11:19,710
that service.

1368
02:11:20,870 --> 02:11:22,630
Just wondering if that was also an option?

1369
02:11:23,450 --> 02:11:24,630
That is an option.

1370
02:11:26,330 --> 02:11:31,810
Now, I haven't dealt them to the cost of that, whether or not they'll be comparable within the

1371
02:11:31,810 --> 02:11:37,550
cost of an engineer or within that we would have the increase that are possibly even decrease

1372
02:11:37,550 --> 02:11:39,350
it in order to meet the demands.

1373
02:11:39,750 --> 02:11:45,350
Yeah, I think as a whoever the town administrator that's operating this budget if they have

1374
02:11:46,110 --> 02:11:51,750
a $33,000 line item for a part-time employee and can't find an employee, I would imagine they

1375
02:11:51,750 --> 02:11:57,630
could use those funds to hire professional services up to that amount with pretty, you know,

1376
02:11:57,630 --> 02:12:00,070
I don't even know if we need to get involved in that.

1377
02:12:01,190 --> 02:12:02,390
But no good point.

1378
02:12:03,750 --> 02:12:04,490
Thank you.

1379
02:12:11,300 --> 02:12:12,980
But that's really easy.

1380
02:12:13,240 --> 02:12:26,720
The one LL element that is new to this side of the community development office, the rest, other than health insurance, which, again, increased throughout the whole budget.

1381
02:12:28,980 --> 02:12:36,920
I think we did our best to try to keep things level funded and put the resources for

1382
02:12:36,920 --> 02:12:45,760
wars needed such as the update of the impact fee and hopefully get support for this

1383
02:12:45,760 --> 02:12:52,160
part-time employee because I can't emphasize enough that one person doing a big job is

1384
02:12:52,160 --> 02:12:59,820
tough. And there's a lot of things between building and inspecting and code enforcement where

1385
02:12:59,820 --> 02:13:02,020
the help is definitely needed.

1386
02:13:04,840 --> 02:13:09,700
So, if we can hopefully, the voters are at the council,

1387
02:13:10,000 --> 02:13:14,180
obviously, supports this and pass that along to the budget committee. Hopefully, that can be supported

1388
02:13:15,160 --> 02:13:18,600
and give us some options that gets an help in that office.

1389
02:13:24,360 --> 02:13:29,120
So, again, other than, again, augmenting the fuel line,

1390
02:13:29,520 --> 02:13:37,280
which we did throughout all the departments that rely on that.

1391
02:13:37,280 --> 02:13:39,700
And of course, the code enforcement officer,

1392
02:13:39,920 --> 02:13:43,920
they're constantly out there and they use their vehicle a lot.

1393
02:13:45,020 --> 02:13:51,520
What the increased field costs, I'm going up again, we move from the 325 that we use

1394
02:13:51,520 --> 02:13:59,900
that 1.2 to 360 to better reflect what we project to be the cost next year as we

1395
02:13:59,900 --> 02:14:00,680
move forward.

1396
02:14:02,980 --> 02:14:05,460
So, any additional questions on that?

1397
02:14:09,990 --> 02:14:20,070
All right, I will move on to finance and I believe that maybe some men here that would

1398
02:14:20,070 --> 02:14:21,930
be an expert in that.

1399
02:14:41,400 --> 02:14:44,420
So we, what the finance department,

1400
02:14:46,790 --> 02:14:51,350
we're proposing a budget of $395,641,

1401
02:14:52,090 --> 02:14:59,970
which is $70,212 over the previous budget, or 21.58% more than the FYI.

1402
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:11,100
227 budget. The main driver of that is the proposed part-time assistant finance director,

1403
02:15:13,780 --> 02:15:14,640
proposed

1404
02:15:14,640 --> 02:15:22,780
for the next year's budgets. This particular budget not only supports that proposal, but it also

1405
02:15:22,780 --> 02:15:30,240
towards two full-time employees and the other treasurer, is that in your budget as well?

1406
02:15:30,600 --> 02:15:31,680
Yeah, and the treasurer.

1407
02:15:33,440 --> 02:15:34,060
Go ahead, love you.

1408
02:15:35,260 --> 02:15:35,960
Thank you, Chair.

1409
02:15:36,880 --> 02:15:42,460
I'm looking at the Assistant Finance Director 30 hours for 50 weeks budgeted at 60K.

1410
02:15:42,760 --> 02:15:44,560
Do we think we can find somebody for that amount?

1411
02:15:49,040 --> 02:15:50,220
I have no idea.

1412
02:15:51,120 --> 02:15:56,620
I'm thinking the interaction might be the 30 hours a week, so they could have, you know,

1413
02:15:56,620 --> 02:15:58,160
Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

1414
02:15:59,380 --> 02:16:00,300
So off,

1415
02:16:04,960 --> 02:16:06,700
I don't know, I don't know.

1416
02:16:06,720 --> 02:16:07,700
I think it worked at T.B.W.

1417
02:16:10,080 --> 02:16:14,540
But I must say that the proposed amount for the part-time one,

1418
02:16:14,760 --> 02:16:17,820
I hopefully would be attractive enough for somebody to

1419
02:16:17,820 --> 02:16:23,240
debate on that and say that as a part-time position,

1420
02:16:23,700 --> 02:16:27,340
it's a good pay, but on the other hand, the demands of the job

1421
02:16:27,340 --> 02:16:34,280
going to be warranted for them out that we're willing to pay. So, it does like, I mean, no

1422
02:16:34,280 --> 02:16:42,420
benefits. So, it's just $40 an hour. Take it really, but, well, I mean, when you say it like that,

1423
02:16:42,520 --> 02:16:49,060
it's not really good. I mean, it's like, possibly three days a week. Yeah, yeah. All right, I'm in.

1424
02:16:50,540 --> 02:16:55,580
I do feel there's a lot of companies that have gone to hiring 30 hours.

1425
02:16:57,780 --> 02:17:00,060
They don't have to provide the health insurance.

1426
02:17:00,400 --> 02:17:02,140
That's the tricky thing, right?

1427
02:17:02,360 --> 02:17:03,580
Well, people in the health insurance.

1428
02:17:04,260 --> 02:17:07,580
Everybody, especially, you know, it seems...

1429
02:17:08,140 --> 02:17:11,280
We might get somebody newer to the position,

1430
02:17:12,420 --> 02:17:16,300
but, you know, they very much want that word-like balance.

1431
02:17:17,180 --> 02:17:17,380
True.

1432
02:17:18,040 --> 02:17:18,300
Yeah, true.

1433
02:17:19,260 --> 02:17:20,760
And I just...

1434
02:17:20,760 --> 02:17:21,760
I'm not going to speak long on it,

1435
02:17:21,900 --> 02:17:25,100
because I feel like there is support for the position within the room.

1436
02:17:27,680 --> 02:17:33,220
But the position is very much needed to help reduce risks.

1437
02:17:33,540 --> 02:17:37,180
The risk in making sure that we are running our grant management

1438
02:17:37,180 --> 02:17:44,440
properly, the liability of our town, the risk in preventing fraud

1439
02:17:44,440 --> 02:17:47,740
with the transactions that come in and out of the town.

1440
02:17:48,080 --> 02:17:52,160
There's multiple union contracts that open up if there's a mistake

1441
02:17:52,160 --> 02:18:01,800
made because we're so thin, this is all risk that we're taking on because the staffing in the

1442
02:18:01,800 --> 02:18:11,420
department is not where it needs to be. So it's very much needed. It does create redundancy.

1443
02:18:11,800 --> 02:18:21,720
It will make the operations smoother. It allows for coverage of vacation time, preparing

1444
02:18:21,720 --> 02:18:28,140
for future leadership changes. I know it seems like I'll be here forever, and I probably will,

1445
02:18:29,180 --> 02:18:37,520
but someday my time will end. Yeah, just to, I think in further support of what you said,

1446
02:18:37,680 --> 02:18:42,100
my only concern with this budget line item is, is the big enough to get you the help you need.

1447
02:18:43,180 --> 02:18:47,440
And honestly, when I did the math, $40, it was pretty good. But like if you had someone that came in

1448
02:18:47,440 --> 02:18:53,040
that was looking for more, we could reduce the hours that they work and, you know, I would

1449
02:18:53,040 --> 02:18:55,420
I'd be willing to entertain that as well.

1450
02:18:56,040 --> 02:19:04,700
And the other thing about the position is that they would be required to have a bachelor's

1451
02:19:04,700 --> 02:19:12,640
degree in accounting, which is something in the town that I know of, I'm the only one

1452
02:19:12,640 --> 02:19:19,660
That really understands the whole financial system of the town's, the current staff, while

1453
02:19:19,660 --> 02:19:25,600
they do a wonderful job, they don't have that background of the accounting experience.

1454
02:19:26,320 --> 02:19:32,760
So that's really the key concept with introducing this particular position.

1455
02:19:33,900 --> 02:19:38,120
I've always been under the impression since the six or seven years I've been doing this

1456
02:19:38,120 --> 02:19:40,940
that you've constructed it as a labyrinth for job security?

1457
02:19:42,960 --> 02:19:43,040
No.

1458
02:19:45,580 --> 02:19:48,500
It's probably because of, yeah.

1459
02:19:49,420 --> 02:19:53,760
And also, conversely, the Claire Governor and Document,

1460
02:19:54,600 --> 02:19:59,800
I mean, when we first introduced it because it took us from this spreadsheet form.

1461
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:29,980
Of presenting the budget to something a little bit more cohesive, a little bit more elaborate with regard to the explanation, and I like it a lot, but I think we're kind of scratching the surface in a little bit more time, a lot to our finance director, you know, through this, this assistant finance director, the more I think we get out of this program, what, you know, and I think we'll be only a benefit as we, you know, because it's not only for the employee,

1462
02:20:30,000 --> 02:20:35,560
under department heads to plant the town council by the budget committee, and then this obviously

1463
02:20:35,560 --> 02:20:36,060
the voters.

1464
02:20:39,730 --> 02:20:46,530
I did want to mention something that we hadn't discussed is the rental and lease is

1465
02:20:46,530 --> 02:20:50,830
lying for most of the town hall departments.

1466
02:20:51,410 --> 02:21:02,350
We were all under a consolidated print management where we purchased new printers and

1467
02:21:02,350 --> 02:21:09,110
that ends in this contract so the printers are still for five years old still in good shape

1468
02:21:09,110 --> 02:21:14,090
but we no longer have to pay for the rental of that so you'll see like in mine that's

1469
02:21:14,090 --> 02:21:22,650
a reduction of $330 will that same reduction does happen in the majority of the town

1470
02:21:23,970 --> 02:21:32,070
hall departments in to one goes we do have the maintenance contract on it okay so

1471
02:21:32,070 --> 02:21:39,250
you know, if it does go, we're, I mean, it's contract, and then would that be a professional

1472
02:21:39,250 --> 02:21:44,430
serviceers or maintenance budget line item? It's under right above it, equipment maintenance.

1473
02:21:45,550 --> 02:21:51,430
So I pay 270 for the maintenance, which includes all the supplies, all the toners, all that

1474
02:21:51,430 --> 02:21:59,090
good stuff for the machine. It must like the last rotation. You get to a point where

1475
02:21:59,690 --> 02:22:00,890
We might need to.

1476
02:22:00,890 --> 02:22:03,610
I do my name get a refresh the whole stock again.

1477
02:22:03,810 --> 02:22:03,970
Right.

1478
02:22:04,970 --> 02:22:07,350
If it starts to get too cost prohibitive.

1479
02:22:10,400 --> 02:22:12,560
Maybe we can do it like police careers 2 at a time.

1480
02:22:12,580 --> 02:22:13,300
No, no no.

1481
02:22:16,710 --> 02:22:18,730
Most of the time yes.

1482
02:22:18,890 --> 02:22:20,650
So when we default them we're going down the one.

1483
02:22:25,480 --> 02:22:28,420
So uh, do you have a questions?

1484
02:22:31,450 --> 02:22:33,870
If you wouldn't mind taking the budget committee.

1485
02:22:34,270 --> 02:22:34,650
Yeah.

1486
02:22:35,370 --> 02:22:36,810
And I'll get that up here.

1487
02:22:36,990 --> 02:22:38,570
Do they have to run out?

1488
02:22:44,810 --> 02:22:52,790
So the budget committee is on page 2-21, I think.

1489
02:22:53,090 --> 02:22:54,370
I'm reading that right.

1490
02:22:59,920 --> 02:23:01,080
And so

1491
02:23:05,120 --> 02:23:09,080
the budget committee is $6,976,

1492
02:23:09,560 --> 02:23:13,840
which is a reduction of $265 from the prior year.

1493
02:23:14,440 --> 02:23:22,560
And that reduction is in the part-time employee line.

1494
02:23:22,560 --> 02:23:23,180
I

1495
02:23:29,320 --> 02:23:32,320
don't, so every adoption of 256.

1496
02:23:35,720 --> 02:23:41,620
256 is the, yeah, and the majority of that is in that part-time employee line in

1497
02:23:41,620 --> 02:23:45,860
238, yep, in 18th of Texas, and we,

1498
02:23:48,320 --> 02:23:53,540
so we budget 20 out, 20 meetings, 450 hours

1499
02:23:53,540 --> 02:23:58,650
that was historically what we've been using the last several years, and when we

1500
02:23:58,650 --> 02:23:59,470
the numbers,

1501
02:24:02,040 --> 02:24:08,860
that's how we got to that reduction. The budget committee generally will review this,

1502
02:24:08,920 --> 02:24:14,460
they haven't met for their organizational meeting, so they haven't met to discuss this budget,

1503
02:24:14,580 --> 02:24:17,240
but if they do, they'll make changes at their level.

1504
02:24:22,880 --> 02:24:25,120
Recall them ever making any major changes.

1505
02:24:25,120 --> 02:24:25,980
It's a small budget.

1506
02:24:32,150 --> 02:24:33,810
So that...

1507
02:24:33,810 --> 02:24:34,710
Oh, that's delicious.

1508
02:24:37,490 --> 02:24:38,650
Where's that sucker?

1509
02:24:40,130 --> 02:24:41,510
Two, two, eighteen?

1510
02:24:47,550 --> 02:24:48,990
So we have two notes.

1511
02:24:49,930 --> 02:24:51,530
One is the tiff district.

1512
02:24:54,030 --> 02:24:56,890
And that is paid from the tiff district funds.

1513
02:24:56,890 --> 02:24:59,970
But we have to show it as...

1514
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:02,500
An expense and is also offsetting revenue.

1515
02:25:11,040 --> 02:25:15,820
And then the other one is the safety center renovations in the fire engine.

1516
02:25:17,620 --> 02:25:24,440
And both of them have gone down because the number of years in the interest rate goes down as we pay it off.

1517
02:25:29,870 --> 02:25:34,590
Pretty sure I can't see it right here, but I'm pretty sure one of them,

1518
02:25:38,960 --> 02:25:45,560
I think the safety center is more in the third, you know, as three more payments.

1519
02:25:45,560 --> 02:25:51,980
And then the tip, the tip district has four more payments if I remember correctly.

1520
02:25:53,700 --> 02:25:55,700
But I had it here, but I don't see it.

1521
02:26:03,480 --> 02:26:04,640
I don't see it.

1522
02:26:05,860 --> 02:26:07,200
I'll make sure I add that.

1523
02:26:10,500 --> 02:26:10,980
Thank you, Chair.

1524
02:26:11,300 --> 02:26:19,300
Do we ever look at trying to pay these things off early if we have the funds to save on the interest?

1525
02:26:20,460 --> 02:26:29,440
So, the safety center and fire engine is both actually through the

1526
02:26:32,220 --> 02:26:34,680
bond, the bond bank.

1527
02:26:35,180 --> 02:26:40,200
And in order to pay them off early, we have to do the refinancing through them, so they don't

1528
02:26:40,200 --> 02:26:42,480
just allow us to pay them off thoroughly.

1529
02:26:42,820 --> 02:26:46,080
Yeah, I'm just going to say some have a provision that you can't prepay.

1530
02:26:47,920 --> 02:26:52,640
You could refinance them, I guess, zero, I'm not going to share it, but...

1531
02:26:52,640 --> 02:26:54,500
I'm just trying to find a loophole.

1532
02:26:54,520 --> 02:26:55,720
Hang off your mortgage early.

1533
02:26:59,130 --> 02:27:01,010
Which one do we have extra money for?

1534
02:27:01,290 --> 02:27:03,230
I was taking the tiff district room.

1535
02:27:04,430 --> 02:27:07,570
Honestly, the interest on the safety centers and...

1536
02:27:07,570 --> 02:27:07,930
No.

1537
02:27:08,270 --> 02:27:08,770
That's a man.

1538
02:27:08,770 --> 02:27:09,710
Why would you even bother?

1539
02:27:09,950 --> 02:27:11,990
But the tiff district, the...

1540
02:27:11,990 --> 02:27:13,950
I don't know, that interest is a little bit more hefty.

1541
02:27:14,090 --> 02:27:15,710
But it does look like it comes down fast.

1542
02:27:27,940 --> 02:27:28,060
So.

1543
02:27:28,060 --> 02:27:29,960
I got through two when I was gone.

1544
02:27:30,260 --> 02:27:30,460
Look at that.

1545
02:27:30,660 --> 02:27:30,840
That's not bad.

1546
02:27:30,840 --> 02:27:31,620
The last two.

1547
02:27:31,620 --> 02:27:38,940
Is there, did you, did you want to do the town clerk's budget? She was saying that you're doing such a great job?

1548
02:27:42,680 --> 02:27:44,660
I told her I would ask him.

1549
02:27:44,660 --> 02:27:48,660
I would not deprive her of the privilege of presenting her budget.

1550
02:27:49,420 --> 02:27:53,080
So was that, that was tonight?

1551
02:27:53,700 --> 02:27:54,620
That was it.

1552
02:27:55,520 --> 02:27:56,560
Other than public input.

1553
02:27:57,600 --> 02:27:57,660
Yeah.

1554
02:27:57,660 --> 02:28:00,440
And then I think it'll be good.

1555
02:28:00,440 --> 02:28:03,040
I think it's good that we have time to think about it.

1556
02:28:03,160 --> 02:28:08,760
And then especially with the physician movements changes

1557
02:28:08,760 --> 02:28:13,640
because I think that's really needed to put in our down.

1558
02:28:14,560 --> 02:28:16,920
So the plan is that in two weeks,

1559
02:28:17,080 --> 02:28:19,400
we'll reveal the remaining budgets.

1560
02:28:20,380 --> 02:28:22,180
And then at that point,

1561
02:28:26,080 --> 02:28:29,160
we'll make a motion to move

1562
02:28:29,160 --> 02:28:40,700
everything to the budget committee for the operating budget, yes, and then the in October

1563
02:28:40,700 --> 02:28:47,300
we'll start working on worn articles. We'll run down just I'll show you a list of all the

1564
02:28:47,300 --> 02:28:53,620
worn articles that are proposed many of them that you're very familiar with at the next meeting

1565
02:28:53,620 --> 02:28:56,960
just so you have a heads up of what what we're thinking about.

1566
02:29:00,070 --> 02:29:12,330
And Chair, just to let you know, so our next meeting, budget meeting, I should say, because we have a regular meeting next week, but our next budget meeting is September 16th, while Wednesday, September 16th.

1567
02:29:12,530 --> 02:29:21,370
And the items that we'll be covering there would be town clerk, Library, Conservation Commission, Cemetery Commission, Police and Fire.

1568
02:29:22,090 --> 02:29:24,650
And then now list the potential warn articles as well.

1569
02:29:24,650 --> 02:29:25,150
We have

1570
02:29:30,940 --> 02:29:34,880
no public, so I don't know if I can invite anybody to have anything else, where's the CD?

1571
02:29:36,580 --> 02:29:36,740
Okay.

1572
02:29:37,360 --> 02:29:40,480
I'd like to make a motion to adjourn chair, all right. Thank you for that time.

1573
02:29:41,160 --> 02:29:42,000
All in favour?

1574
02:29:42,720 --> 02:29:43,380
All right.

1575
02:29:45,720 --> 02:29:46,340
Anybody close?

1576
02:29:46,800 --> 02:29:47,360
Go in home.