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Okay. What was that? Hold. Well, I adjusted it up a little bit. My phone is back. Yep, so phones.

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All right. Will aggressor will join us as soon as he finishes his other meetings.

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So we're going to start without him.

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I'm going to open the September 2nd Planning Board meeting.

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The first item on the agenda grant, excuse me, grant road LLCs

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is going to be carried over to the October meeting.

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The second item that we put up on the agenda Watson at 10 Cottage Lane

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they asked to be taken off the agenda and carried over to the next meeting.

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You have static, let me see if I put it back.

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Because you have to remember what direction you're trying to do in the case of this.

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All right.

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So we'll go on two piers at three cottage lane.

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And who do we have with us tonight to take the microphone?

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All right, so could you adjust the microphone up

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And do your best to talk into the microphones.

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It'll get almost up.

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The whole bar will move up.

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Great.

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There you go.

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OK.

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I did get a copy of another memorandum from MDRA.

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and

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from James J. Han and I really have an up time to adjust them since I only got

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them yesterday.

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Do you want to give us a quick overview of any modifications since the first

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time you were here?

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It's just adding more wording to the plans, essentially,

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and the only, I mean, I do have a question

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because I had made copies of two of the survey sheets, which might get labeled as seven

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and I ate, but then I'll part of my set.

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And then usually they're filed as just separate survey sheets.

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And I want to know what I should do because...

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Well, put the planning board, you file it all as one packet.

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I like it.

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If you're going for a building permit, so.

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Yeah, but I don't put a seven on an engineering sheet that's signed and sealed by someone else.

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That's not what I usually do.

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Well, we're not asking you to put your signature on it, we're just asking you to make it part of the set.

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Oh, yes. Well, it was part of the set, it was supposed to be.

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But it was labeled, by hand, I used seven and I ate, there's only six sheets.

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So the two survey sheets, I mean, I don't usually put a number from my side of drawings on those sheets.

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separate sheets out and in the back.

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I don't see the issue. Let me reread his thing.

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Well, I don't, but it's in the letter.

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On the top of page two, see.

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Yeah, I mean, we just, we needed to be part of the packet.

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Well, it is part of the packet, but I don't put an architectural number on those two sheets.

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No, you're just going to put it as sheet A7 and sheet A8 and call them what they are.

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They're not, you're not making them your personal sheets, you're making them part of our packet.

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And we need our sheets numbered.

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So if you want to come up with a different numbering system, I mean.

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I mean, I don't normally number someone else's drawings.

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That's really what?

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I'm particularly surprised drawings.

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All right, when will comes on, we'll run it by him again, but I don't see the issue here. We're not seriously

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We're not asking you to sign off on them. We're just asking you to make them part of the path

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I think that's all of that. Yeah, I'd rather not put, you know, I'd just say what it is on the list of drawings.

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Yeah, it's the survey sheet. That's fine. That's a problem. Yeah, through that. Okay, and the rest of

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I just want to add a small amount of

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text to the drawings essentially. That's what I, I didn't completely review these, but that's

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my brief. Yeah the purpose tonight I mean the way our timing goes certainly don't expect any

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turnaround we just want to make sure that you read the memo and whether or not you have any

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questions of what's being asked of you so that you could make the next submission and hopefully it'll

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be complete. We're going to need to refer you over to the Board of Appeals for the variances.

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And when Will comes on I want to see if he's comfortable with us doing that tonight.

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or if some additional information should be in front of us.

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It's quite, the Han memo is quite lacking in detail.

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So do you have any issues with what's being asked from Han memo?

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Quite honestly, all of this was brought up before

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and was still not seeing it on the sheets.

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So I put it, excuse me, I put everything on the sheets.

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It was asked by the previous memorandums, and now they're asking for some additional.

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No, well, actually one through six, he says, as previously mentioned.

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Where?

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The Han River.

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The Han River.

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Previously mentioned.

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Well, one of these was a floodplain development permit.

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Well, there's, and I'm not sure if that's a town permit or a state permit, so I had

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asked in my letter and to let me know who's, which permit, it's a building inspector.

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It's the building inspector, okay,

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okay number two, the survey plan, the overall survey plan

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and showed the wetland boundary, and I didn't know,

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did add a note on my drawing that showed that,

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but that comes from the overall survey.

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If you want me to add a note saying that on my drawings,

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I'm happy to do that.

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Well, he's saying that the survey plan should show

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the wetland boundary.

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It does, but it's not labeled.

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Let's bring it up.

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It's shown on my plans.

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on the survey plan.

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There's a line on the survey plan.

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They don't identify it on their plan.

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And you have to instruct them that we need it identified.

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OK.

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All right.

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I did.

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There was a survey on the lot, which I gave you as well as the overall survey,

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which has spot heights on it.

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that there aren't any contours because the variation in height is less than two feet.

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So I've got spot heights and that was on the survey sheet of the lot.

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So, you know, on a little, don't quite know what to do.

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Are we talking about your sheet or the survey sheet now?

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Survey sheet has spot heights on it.

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Let me see if I can bring them up.

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And on Hans comment number two, it does say,

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I think it implies you can indicate the existing conditions on your sheet.

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Or the survey plan. So if it's not, I can, yes, it's not, I can add those to my side mark. That's fine. Yeah. Okay. I'll do that.

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I can clarify the rest of these

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things. Yeah.

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do you see manual, which one are you talking about that now, which one.

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So that's number four, number four.

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Thank you.

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And I've used that before in the same neighborhood.

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Because that's about the youngest device that actually works on these lots.

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Because they're so small.

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Watch out location and detail.

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You know, there's no location on the site to do that, so I don't think it's good I did a wash out on the parking area.

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So the only alternative is to have a remote wash out for the concrete trucks.

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I hadn't added that to my letter,

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so I don't know how to deal with that either, but maybe we will do that.

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Number six, I did change the hatching patterns, but I'll check my drawings.

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Unfortunately, I was out of town for the last month, so I didn't get to look at the drawing

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before they went out.

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Okay, so that's really it.

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The best thing for me to do is to go through them and then if I have questions, email and

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up and get clarification that way.

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So, if you need clarification, do it through the planning office, please.

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And if necessary, we can set up a conference call, but...

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No, that's fine.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Well, at what point do you think this would be ready for referral to the Board of Appeals for Variances?

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We still have a lot of outstanding items.

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Is it premature now?

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This is three.

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This is three.

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This is three.

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This is three.

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Pierce.

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I mean, if you decide that I am a substance,

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if you still have a little question.

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Ask the board as far as what this is just for the variances to refer them to the board of appeals to consider it.

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And as far as the storm order goes, it's a matter of satisfying the storm order practices

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which I don't think will interfere with what.

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I mean, some of the variances are about these extended horses and overhangs.

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The footprint is considerably more.

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Do you want to hear the results of the engineering review, again, or are you satisfied

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that we can send them over for the variances.

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I mean,

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I'm concerned that there are too many outstanding matters.

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I just don't know how material they are to the question of the variant.

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So the process, if we refer it to zoning to the variances,

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granted from back here, we're not, these still have to be resolved.

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Yes, all of these.

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I guess the weapons.

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The question is if the variants, I mean, the risk that they have is if somehow the variance

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It doesn't satisfy these conditions because they're in the first, right, and then the difficult

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I can get a different sort of...

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No, if anything, things would be pulled in, so the variance is good to stay, but they just

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wouldn't build out the full variance, and we're not bound by what the variance is.

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This is our, but if you're not comfortable that we have a complete application, we should wait until more information comes in.

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I mean, we don't have the top, you know, some of the survey details. If you're comfortable that you can read all of this and see how the engineering is going to fit on the property, let me bring it back up.

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I'm just trying to get caught up on the order of operations.

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Did you submit a building permit package initially,

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and the building department sent everything

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to the planning board?

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No, it was a wetland.

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When they went into talk to the building department,

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it was clear that there was wetlands involved.

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So the wetland of permit takes precedent.

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So there hasn't been a building permit yet.

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No, no, denial and no sinning.

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Oh, unlike Hewitt, which was very confusing the last meeting, right?

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Right. So the wetlands go first in an idea world. We review on that. This is a lot where there was a house and it was completely taken down. In fact, one of the answers we weren't even sure where the tank was, which seems odd. No one has figured that out.

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have a good did you try to talk to the previous owners I mean for your own

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sack to know where it was a previous

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owner and didn't show up at the clothes and

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they just

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and no one in the co-op had any previous information on it when they

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put in the sewer systems they were told that all of the holding times the

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or when they're full, or taking care of by either emptying and building with sand, or they were completely removed based on, but they didn't keep records from what we understand.

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Well, people had them pumped out, so some of the local either bates or whoever, you know, they know.

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And there is nothing in the building department records.

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something, I think the Department records are as Indian skeletalism, but imagine there.

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You know, if you're on sake, you might want to call around to a few of the local companies

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and see, because as a property owner, I wouldn't want to know where that was, to avoid it.

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According to the co-op, the chairman of the board, he said that all of the tanks were taken

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in the way and then expected at the time of the sewer going in.

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But they were pumped out, they were filled up, they were removed.

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But you would figure the call-off would have had some records of that.

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But the individual tanks are pumped out by the property owners, right?

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So I'm saying some company locally has a record for that address.

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You know, actually I have access to the Westchester County pump outs.

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maybe I'll take a look.

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That's the boss that was created.

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It doesn't go back pre the sewer district, but I'll ask the county.

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The county has pump out.

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No, no, it's 2010.

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When did that state law go into effect on recording the pump outs?

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I'll ask.

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You see, this is a problem.

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Because this goes back to 2010 or 12 that the system went in.

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This property had a previous owner that had gone through years of

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permits, got their building permit, and then let it sit for over two years.

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And then at that point, they became frustrated that they were told they had to start all over again.

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That's when the property went up for sale.

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I've been in that collop on cottage lanes since 2012.

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I've been a resident there.

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I know everyone on the street, everyone's working with me and says, yeah, you can park contractor cars.

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and so on and so on, but I've always looked at that lot.

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And like I said, yep, it's time we're getting older,

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and the property is too big right now.

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We can handle it, we're getting older,

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we like to downsize, so she pushed me to doing this.

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And, all right, well, hopefully next time the application

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will be complete, we can make the referral and move on.

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Next time, I think from what I just heard about number 10, that they've put it off until next meeting,

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because we just get these reports with the day or two to review them, but not enough time to address them.

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The next time we'll get the reports first.

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No, no.

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The reports are not expected to be addressed prior to our meeting.

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We would have to...

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Back up everything, when we receive it, get it reviewed, you need the, we need to be part of this process. So the reports are all brought in front of us and you with the same time, we discuss them together. And now you go away and complete and get it in within two weeks so that you can be on the next agenda. So that's the way the cycle works.

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But you know, all those as previously mentioned, we keep reminding people, we try to be 100% complete with our first report.

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And rarely do I see any issue come up that's not part of that first one. You got to get your consultants to answer all the questions from the get go.

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And I think one of the goals, we know that you only get this a day or so before this meeting,

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you can't answer everything, but hopefully you read it and just ask any questions if there's

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a, if you don't understand something or if there's an issue.

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So that's, that's what we're, our goal is.

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And sometimes people, it's really difficult to do that in one day because that would have

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review all the drawings as well. And I just don't keep normal and keep paper

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copies in the office anymore. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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We just want to make sure you understand what's being asked of you. And quite

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honestly, everyone this is as previously mentioned. You had an opportunity the

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last time to let us know if you understood what was being asked for. So let's try

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to get this complete. Why? Responded to everything and I thought I was clear,

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The next item on the agenda is read road group.

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We have two reports and the board is ready with a consider a draft resolution.

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But let's go over the reports and any outstanding items.

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You can bring us up to date on where you are with the outside agencies,

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agencies and including our highway department and fire commissioners.

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Good evening.

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I'm Jack McManus, I'm with Insight Engineering.

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As you know, we're before you for the re-approval of a black line up, a black line change application.

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And during last month's meeting, we were told to address as many of the outstanding technical

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comments as we could. And in the time that we had, I believe that we have, we took 20 plus

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comments down to three or four. With regard to the highway superintendents office in part

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apartment, as our understanding of that was previously submitted, but we've reached out recently

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and will provide written confirmation of their acceptance from both offices.

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So verbally you everything's okay and that's what we were told with the last approval

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but we'll make sure that this, you know, a recent set of plans is for you.

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Look at it.

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With regards to the remaining outstanding comments,

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the fear that these are similar if not the same from our conditions, from the previous approval.

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Have they drafted the declaration of common driveway, the utility easement, the grading, they're all in?

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Yes.

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The draft agreements have been cemented.

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So, we see, you'll have to look and see.

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Do you have the common driveway easement, utility easement, grading easement and maintenance?

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We should check and see if they came in and we're referred to U.N. Rollins.

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They were included in a previous submission, not the most recent.

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I will ask for all of them.

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Right.

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So, Board, we do have a draft resolution of approval and we'll did highlight.

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Right.

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That's so that those addressed.

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Let's highlight it.

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Let's take a look at that.

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Have all of the swift conditions been addressed by now?

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We are still working through the technical comments with DEP.

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When we receive their approval, we'll coordinate that with Will and Joy.

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Okay.

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So we don't know if Hans is going to have any revisions standing,

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so this would have to be a condition of approval again.

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You did have conversations more recently with Highway Superintendent, the fire department and the DOT, so and as far as you know that are not asking for any changes, they're just, you're just waiting for their written approvals.

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Okay.

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So is the board comfortable going ahead with the resolution of approval?

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Yes.

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Okay. Yes. I'm not going to certainly not going to read the whole thing. This is a board

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have any questions comments on the way it's drafted.

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Let's just take a look at the outstanding

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items. Right, so that's the items on page three. The conditions before I sign.

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Now the

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whip, the NOI, the final approval legal instruments, which we'll check on the status of those.

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So I think we're good.

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The August 27th, Han memo has two items, right?

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Two items that they say the applicant requests the item be a condition for approval.

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And that is contained within the, okay, yeah, I mean it's.

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That's what I'm double checking.

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Well, those are contained, I believe.

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The outstanding items.

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Looks like it.

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Which is hard to hear.

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I'm sorry. The Han memo mentions outstanding items that the applicant wants as a condition of approval and I believe that you incorporated them.

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The stormwater facilities maintenance in the driveway basically, right?

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They are generally the same as they were originally, but they now

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are new and have a lot of points of it,

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so I have to record some of that and then go with the draft.

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OK,

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and I don't have a problem with that.

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Those two would be part of the conditions of approval.

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Because we can't sign until that's all in.

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So that's our safe safety net there.

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OK.

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All right.

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With that, I'll make a motion that the planning board

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approve the final subdivision-plat-lock line adjustment and stormwater management permit for

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the read road group LLC 1 and 2, I believe. Yes. And read road group 2. As drafted, September

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2, 2026. I made that motion. Do I have a second? Second. Thank you, Ed. All in favour?

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You're doing

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it as drafted.

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No, I'm sorry, as is.

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No, as drafted, as drafted, because you said you're

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going to make a minor adjustment.

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You're going to just cross-check it against the Han memo.

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I'm sorry, I can't hear you will.

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We just lost your sound.

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Great.

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Oh, there you are.

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You're back.

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We still can't hear you.

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Oh, yeah.

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Oh, a bog is 27.

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I'm sorry, will.

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We just got the sound back, would you repeat?

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The motion should be something like,

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with amendments to record signs.

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The draft would be August 27th, on May 20th, August 20th, on May 20th, on May 20th.

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Yes, exactly. Thank you. Will for that correction.

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So I've made the motion on the draft resolution with a reconciliation for the August 27th,

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on memo, and Ed 2nd.

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I will still sign.

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All in favor?

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All right.

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And the chair votes aye.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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All set.

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All right.

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The third item is

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AT&T.

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One of these days, we'll get as builds from these companies.

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In the meantime, we're doing an additional extension.

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Resolve at the North Senate Planning Board hereby grants AT&T Mobility Cooperation,

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a fourth extension of their alteration, exemption, resolution approval of conditional use

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permit and site development plan procedures for modifications to the existing communication

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facility at Forty Sun Valley Drive from September 7 to October 7, 2026 for advice from

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town attorney, Roland Barroni.

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I will make that motion. Do I have a second? Second?

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Oh, in favor? All right. Yeah, we're still trying to get the plan sheets resolved. And by the way, I haven't gone up to take a look, but I understand the county tower may be under construction up there at that site.

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Remember that? Yeah, it's another tower going up right next to this one.

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Thanks to the county.

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All right.

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Financial report.

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I'll make a motion to approve the financial report for August, 2026.

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Do I have a second?

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Second.

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Thank you, Chris.

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On the favor.

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All right.

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On the chair votes aye.

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And the minutes of August 12.

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I'll make a motion to accept as written with one minor type of.

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Do I have a second?

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Second.

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On the favor?

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All right.

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We should do a site visit to the Hulits. I don't know if you're prepared to do it sooner rather than later.

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I'll make a suggestion of a week from Saturday. Our Saturdays, good for everybody.

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Do you want to do it during the week early evening?

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So that would be the 12th.

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I'm a wait on the 12th.

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You're away.

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Sorry, this is for what I can't do with 12th.

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Okay, it is a holiday, oh, that's a holiday later that evening, is there a holiday?

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Okay, so are there any days during the week that works for people?

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The weekdays work for me, I'm saying.

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Okay, we still have decent daylight, Chris, how soon can you get up for it?

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All over the place depends, that's in the day.

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Okay, and add.

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I'm generally okay in the late afternoon.

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All right.

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So I'm going to be a way not this coming week with the following week.

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So we're going to do this by email with Dawn.

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She and I will come up with some suggestion suggested dates.

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We'll send it around by email.

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And that would be for the Hewlett property.

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me. While we're there, I know some of you did never saw Cottage Lane. We could just do

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a quick drive by because three of their applicants are on Cottage Lane. I think it gives

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you a good perspective. So we would post it as a stop at the Hewlett and a drive by of the

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Cottage Lane three sites.

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Sounds good.

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And we'll do it by email.

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Can we pick a date where it's not raining?

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Yes.

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Absolutely.

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All right.

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While it would be ideal to have a work session on the 16th, I'm going to be an Omaha.

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And I could do it by Zoom.

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But Chris has to be primarily for the land-conservancy work that we're doing, and so we wouldn't be able to act on anything, but we could certainly try to wrap it up.

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But I think there's so few items left that it's fine by me to just do it all on October 7. Is that work for everybody?

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It does.

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And everybody pretty relatively comfortable with where we are with us.

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All right.

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I know there was a confusion with, we have a new director of the Open Land Foundation,

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and both the chair, and she contacted me, and I gave them a little more background

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that we're not writing this from scratch that we're modeling it from what's already in the code.

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And I sent them all the, I reminded Pam Pooley that that's what we're doing.

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We're not, a lot of the things that they asked about at the last time are not new.

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It's already there.

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So let'll give him time to read that and catch up on that.

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So we'll do it on October 7th.

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Hopefully to conclude it and get it over to the town board.

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And speaking of getting things over to the town board this week,

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I, this week, what's left of this week,

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I will get the tree ordinance amendments over to the town board with the request that they put it on their second meeting of September for discussion.

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So if any of you want to be there, keep your eye out on the town board.

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Agendas, that's the date I'll be asking for for the tree ordinance, and we'll of course let the CIC know as well.

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And I think both of you came in on the tail end of that, right?

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That's what we're giving preliminary permits for,

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to be issued by the building inspector.

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And that's all I have. And we only have what one applicant so far for, and

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that.

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Right, 509 route 22, may come in for a few modifications they want to do. It's not about the use of the building. It's about getting it.

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Spruising it up and doing a few improvements, but they have to come to us and we have to refer them to the architecture review board.

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So that's so far, that's the only applicant we have for our October.

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Of course, we're hoping that some of these kind of lane ones will come in.

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Yeah. Okay. That's all I have.

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Will, did you have anything for us?

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You're good for wrapping up land conservancy for October 7th. Yes.

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Yeah, I got

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this.

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You know, we're not hearing you.

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Hold on.

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I apologize, we're not hearing you.

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Let me see if I can switch microphones.

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Can you hear us will?

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All right, you're just coming through my computer, but at least

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If you talk loudly we'll at least be able to hear your answer. You're all set for October 7th

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Lancet's urgency.

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Okay. We'll go over them and get it set.

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Okay.

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Is there? Can you hear me now? Yes.

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It sounds like horizon.

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Is there any way this microphone system can get

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Better because I can't hear anybody at the podium.

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I will send one more memo to the whole town board, filing another complaint about the

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microphone system.

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Yeah, I mean, it's ridiculous.

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I had the, I think our last meeting I was on Zoom and it was a terrible experience.

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I don't usually, I'm not usually subjected to that and will, I don't know how you can handle it.

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It's hard.

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It's also hard to be at home.

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Yeah.

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Okay, I will, at a minimum, maybe they can get Jessica back over here, if not, they just have to buy new microphones.

460
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I don't know what the problem is.

461
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I mean, I think you take it out of my planning budget.

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You've been a little bit of money and actually put in a real system where everything's integrated.

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And it's insane that you have this, and that it's in forranicus and it's just...

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We do have an owl, and Marie and I got the owl going, but we didn't test it for Zoom yet.

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But I don't think that's going to change.

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I mean, everything will go through the owls instead of the microphone, and we could pick up

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people seated out there with the owl. So maybe that's an interim solution. I'll see if

468
00:38:33,220 --> 00:38:37,640
Maria and I can get Jessica over and we'll get the owl going. Otherwise, I will file a file.

469
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:43,920
I can't. I can't tell you. I can't tell you that when you listen to the tape,

470
00:38:46,220 --> 00:38:47,100
it's you can hear

471
00:38:47,100 --> 00:38:52,500
that. So that somehow the tape recording is picking up all the sound.

472
00:38:53,460 --> 00:38:59,340
We have a tablet or a laptop connected to the podium that they're speaking into.

473
00:39:00,060 --> 00:39:03,800
Yeah, we could, but why can't they just get us better microphones?

474
00:39:05,820 --> 00:39:09,860
Yeah, and even one hanging down from the ceiling for the audience.

475
00:39:10,340 --> 00:39:15,300
All right. Thank you, Will, for bringing that up. I will file another complaint and see what I can do.

476
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,100
I'm going to use your name.

477
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:25,780
Maybe that'll, uh, the frustration trying to advise us.

478
00:39:26,740 --> 00:39:27,040
All right.

479
00:39:27,460 --> 00:39:28,200
Thank you, everyone.

480
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:29,000
Good night.

481
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:30,620
Good night.

482
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:31,100
Good night.

483
00:39:32,340 --> 00:39:32,980
We're adjourned.