1 00:00:06,900 --> 00:00:18,940 So did with any technology that I knew, I mean, of all the things you can ask me to do, that's the least of the idea of notice would be sufficient. 2 00:00:18,940 --> 00:00:19,640 Okay. 3 00:00:21,140 --> 00:00:22,560 Like you might as well. 4 00:00:22,860 --> 00:00:24,560 So, I have this meeting. 5 00:00:24,820 --> 00:00:26,460 Thompson's back to advisory committee. 6 00:00:26,860 --> 00:00:27,320 Two more. 7 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,460 And, does everyone have a copy of your agenda? 8 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:34,160 Yes. 9 00:00:36,480 --> 00:00:36,740 I do. 10 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:37,600 I do. 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:38,280 You can. 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,540 There you go. 13 00:00:40,820 --> 00:00:41,300 There you go. 14 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,400 Looking easier for you in the end. 15 00:00:50,580 --> 00:00:51,300 Thank you. 16 00:00:53,470 --> 00:00:54,250 Thank you. 17 00:00:54,570 --> 00:00:54,970 Okay. 18 00:00:54,970 --> 00:01:07,250 Okay, pretty business, as you know, the Ericsson time, and I just want to accept his resignation 19 00:01:07,250 --> 00:01:08,250 with regrets. 20 00:01:08,870 --> 00:01:14,190 He was, you know, a founding member, and he certainly held my hand to withdrawing his 21 00:01:15,150 --> 00:01:16,090 committee out. 22 00:01:16,810 --> 00:01:21,350 He served a lot of committees, had a lot of knowledge of procedures and what needs to be 23 00:01:21,350 --> 00:01:21,610 done. 24 00:01:22,110 --> 00:01:28,350 and I'm very sorry, he quit, but he has streamlined his life. 25 00:01:28,470 --> 00:01:31,430 He's down to one committee, and we're on the other side of that. 26 00:01:32,190 --> 00:01:33,190 His page is different. 27 00:01:33,350 --> 00:01:33,470 Yes. 28 00:01:34,110 --> 00:01:40,590 The next thing we need to talk about is, 29 00:01:41,890 --> 00:01:44,790 and I guess we need to change our firewalls for this one, 30 00:01:44,870 --> 00:01:48,230 that's going to help, but to just have a rotating secretary. 31 00:01:48,230 --> 00:01:55,690 on a meeting by a meeting basis where it will volunteer. 32 00:02:00,250 --> 00:02:04,210 Do you need to do need to sell proof on that? 33 00:02:06,090 --> 00:02:12,250 I would mention that in order to move this work away, it's supposed to work with the town regulations. 34 00:02:13,370 --> 00:02:15,930 You're going to be the Secretary for this meeting tonight. 35 00:02:16,490 --> 00:02:18,310 You need to draft up the minutes. 36 00:02:18,990 --> 00:02:19,810 You can get them to Richard. 37 00:02:20,190 --> 00:02:21,330 Richard can check them over. 38 00:02:21,890 --> 00:02:26,490 And then we need to spot on them at the next regular meeting and then they go to the town 39 00:02:26,490 --> 00:02:27,230 to be posted. 40 00:02:27,630 --> 00:02:27,730 Right. 41 00:02:28,050 --> 00:02:32,990 So we don't post them before everybody has agreed that we brought up at the next meeting for 42 00:02:32,990 --> 00:02:33,370 consideration. 43 00:02:34,570 --> 00:02:39,630 Oh, when I should mention the passing, it's not on the agenda, but we have no meetings. 44 00:02:39,630 --> 00:02:52,190 We had known that from our last meeting which was about the stop signs on Water Street because there were exactly two members there so we didn't have a core. 45 00:02:54,360 --> 00:03:03,690 But all we did was go over that with the very few people that showed up and they voted to accept that. 46 00:03:03,690 --> 00:03:09,850 That and so we have like, traffic activated flashing stop signs at where and green. 47 00:03:10,350 --> 00:03:10,550 Green. 48 00:03:10,750 --> 00:03:11,370 Yeah, green. 49 00:03:11,370 --> 00:03:11,870 Or green. 50 00:03:12,070 --> 00:03:13,090 I think we're on that side. 51 00:03:13,330 --> 00:03:14,290 Can you see from my deck? 52 00:03:14,750 --> 00:03:14,870 Yeah. 53 00:03:15,210 --> 00:03:18,010 And it's definitely, I haven't very close with it. 54 00:03:18,550 --> 00:03:18,750 Okay. 55 00:03:19,170 --> 00:03:26,370 Well, I have seen the words of the local constabulary talking to people in Patrick Street, and I assume 56 00:03:26,370 --> 00:03:28,690 it's because they would go to the stop signs. 57 00:03:30,450 --> 00:03:30,970 Yeah. 58 00:03:30,970 --> 00:03:37,070 Yeah, they, it's kind of like shooting fish in a barrel if they come on in street because, 59 00:03:37,330 --> 00:03:45,750 yeah, they, but they've been really good. And, and people are, they're slowing down, 60 00:03:46,070 --> 00:03:53,070 even the ones who don't stop. They're being more cautious there. We're going to see if 61 00:04:07,970 --> 00:04:12,230 I don't know, when was the last meeting? 62 00:04:12,710 --> 00:04:18,450 It was in, well, John never talked about it, when I was sure it was in April, May. 63 00:04:19,170 --> 00:04:20,130 It was in April. 64 00:04:20,330 --> 00:04:20,690 It was in April. 65 00:04:20,770 --> 00:04:21,590 It was in April. 66 00:04:21,590 --> 00:04:26,890 that voice we were hoping that we're going to be people to come and yes yes 67 00:04:26,890 --> 00:04:34,170 I'm pretty sure it was in April it was in April and this is our business efforts to 68 00:04:34,170 --> 00:04:44,390 recruit public interest to this or see what it is we try and even take it 69 00:04:44,390 --> 00:04:49,150 The query there, because our audience is going to be there. 70 00:04:49,650 --> 00:04:53,830 And we try to, and if your buddy has come back and coined about the signs. 71 00:04:55,390 --> 00:05:00,450 Oh, I see him every day and I know. 72 00:05:00,870 --> 00:05:06,230 And plus the least interest has, you know, is much more regular now. 73 00:05:06,230 --> 00:05:15,590 So, well, Chief Guantrana said that the main reason for doing that is that people who run 74 00:05:15,590 --> 00:05:18,990 the stop sign and then tell them to get caught and tell the officer what I didn't see it. 75 00:05:19,630 --> 00:05:21,470 So, the flashing lights sign and move that. 76 00:05:22,310 --> 00:05:23,510 Yeah, excuse me. 77 00:05:23,570 --> 00:05:30,930 And I think you intended to walk away to be more clear across the two, so no. 78 00:05:34,370 --> 00:05:43,970 Okay, so we talked about Secretary leadership, membership. 79 00:05:45,370 --> 00:05:52,010 We have any member, you are authorized about seven members in this committee and we 80 00:05:52,010 --> 00:05:58,130 only have four at the moment, we only have five, have you submitted a request to be on 81 00:05:58,130 --> 00:05:58,590 the committee? 82 00:05:59,610 --> 00:06:01,250 Yeah, not this one yet. 83 00:06:01,930 --> 00:06:02,390 Okay. 84 00:06:02,410 --> 00:06:04,190 I've already torn in. 85 00:06:04,470 --> 00:06:06,250 It's too late to go on the... 86 00:06:06,250 --> 00:06:08,050 So what meeting for next Monday night? 87 00:06:08,470 --> 00:06:08,990 Oh, right. 88 00:06:09,450 --> 00:06:10,730 Because the agenda's already done. 89 00:06:10,950 --> 00:06:13,530 And the time managers and their guest stuff 90 00:06:13,530 --> 00:06:14,250 for the next few days. 91 00:06:14,390 --> 00:06:14,650 Okay. 92 00:06:15,110 --> 00:06:18,370 But there'll be another meeting on... 93 00:06:18,370 --> 00:06:19,690 I forget the date. 94 00:06:20,550 --> 00:06:21,210 17th or something. 95 00:06:21,570 --> 00:06:23,510 We'll put you on the agenda for that. 96 00:06:23,730 --> 00:06:24,970 So you'll be official after that. 97 00:06:25,970 --> 00:06:28,390 17th, the office tries to make a decision. 98 00:06:29,250 --> 00:06:31,570 Oh, you're talking about the office? 99 00:06:31,970 --> 00:06:33,270 Yeah, the office wants to do that. 100 00:06:33,390 --> 00:06:33,550 Right. 101 00:06:34,150 --> 00:06:35,990 So the application? 102 00:06:36,330 --> 00:06:36,590 Yes. 103 00:06:38,350 --> 00:06:41,790 Yeah, if you could get that done sometime in the next week, 104 00:06:41,910 --> 00:06:43,170 it would be very well. 105 00:06:43,630 --> 00:06:45,230 It's that thing's really good. 106 00:06:45,610 --> 00:06:46,430 You'll do a contentment. 107 00:06:48,910 --> 00:06:51,810 Next item, you have before you 108 00:06:51,810 --> 00:07:02,010 the traffic on policy. And there's an item in red item in 6.1. 109 00:07:04,260 --> 00:07:05,700 And it's just to change 110 00:07:05,700 --> 00:07:13,680 our meeting schedule so that we meet on as needed basis instead of monthly, because we 111 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,540 haven't met since April, because we haven't had any business. 112 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:23,480 And I'm very concerned 113 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:32,300 that our survey program that we came up with is a little, little response. 114 00:07:34,380 --> 00:07:36,160 No commentary 115 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:42,220 I've seen or been priced up. It is that people are very, very disappointed that when we 116 00:07:42,220 --> 00:07:47,940 set up the black cat, they don't get the numbers that their eyes are telling you, telling 117 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:59,580 I don't know how to change that, but you aren't even responding to the petition. 118 00:08:02,500 --> 00:08:03,940 So, is there a petition? 119 00:08:04,340 --> 00:08:12,480 There is a petition, you know, processing place to have the residents of the street ask the police 120 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:18,340 Do you put the black cat up and want to record the traffic, do you? 121 00:08:18,380 --> 00:08:21,240 So have they been using the black cat? 122 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,640 I don't know, I haven't seen it. 123 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:25,600 I have used it. 124 00:08:25,780 --> 00:08:27,580 I don't know how regular it was. 125 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,200 It was used on Water Street. 126 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,140 That was part of the study that was done there. 127 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:32,540 Yeah. 128 00:08:33,300 --> 00:08:33,460 Okay. 129 00:08:35,540 --> 00:08:39,660 And I know it's used on Badger Street, and I was on the whole across from my house. 130 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:40,760 Oh, 131 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:48,500 and I suggested a terrific tree across the street that David Harris housed. 132 00:08:48,780 --> 00:08:53,420 And he would be more than happy to have done. 133 00:08:53,620 --> 00:08:54,660 I've done dinner in person. 134 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,320 He's right on the corner. 135 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:24,320 I had 63 green and he must be 16 or 16 or maybe you know I asked him if he would be on the board and he said that he would if well actually he's just because when I asked him he said because he travels and it was job. 136 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:39,900 I don't know if he was going to retire, but the business sold, so I can see that he'll 137 00:09:39,900 --> 00:09:41,240 be rich out to the business. 138 00:09:41,660 --> 00:09:41,920 Great. 139 00:09:47,610 --> 00:09:56,570 So we digress what we need to, if everybody's in agreement, we need to move ahead with this 140 00:09:56,570 --> 00:09:59,450 change to policy and 141 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,180 further discussion on that. 142 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,420 But you're doing number six. 143 00:10:05,820 --> 00:10:08,300 You know, having the meeting only will be there. 144 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:09,580 I'll leave you up. 145 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,840 Track the timing when it's slightly different. 146 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,900 You need to be ready to move the phone. 147 00:10:16,780 --> 00:10:17,320 Okay. 148 00:10:18,860 --> 00:10:21,920 You have copies of this traffic change policy. 149 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:26,280 And if you go to page, I think it's five. 150 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:32,460 in the community engagement, and we had a four-step program 151 00:10:33,180 --> 00:10:38,640 to inform people and have a goal, and go back, and go again, and talk about it. 152 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,880 And what we've done, and we've been doing through the warm water state, 153 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,060 that took to be a little cumbersome and a difficult and unconsuming, 154 00:10:46,540 --> 00:10:47,940 and we didn't get a great response. 155 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,700 We expected people to come out twice and do things. 156 00:10:52,260 --> 00:10:58,820 So I narrowed us down to one which is in a red or a page 4 at the top. 157 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:04,160 That's page 3, it starts on, excuse me, but my glasses on, I can tell that. 158 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:10,500 But it would simplify the whole process, you know, you'd ask people just once to appear, 159 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,640 and they could vote while we were here, we would have one public hearing instead of two. 160 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:20,540 And I think that would give everything a chance to work way through, but it would simplify 161 00:11:20,540 --> 00:11:26,420 this committee to work with. So that's the change. If you were, if I agree with what they 162 00:11:26,420 --> 00:11:31,840 are in red, I would be ready to take it to the select board and get them to pull it. 163 00:11:33,860 --> 00:11:43,780 Okay. I assume move. Second. I should ask, there's any further discussion before we move 164 00:11:43,780 --> 00:11:45,880 I'm sorry, my order. 165 00:11:46,660 --> 00:11:50,140 Well, I think in one of the early meetings, 166 00:11:50,560 --> 00:11:52,880 I said I would be happy to do that, 167 00:11:52,980 --> 00:11:56,020 but then I didn't hear anymore about it. 168 00:11:56,380 --> 00:12:00,360 Maybe we did meet in that mini-eating area. 169 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:06,520 But I think waiting until September should go door to door 170 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,880 is probably a better idea than the middle of August. 171 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:15,560 But I'm happy to be involved in that, but I said 172 00:12:21,230 --> 00:12:25,150 you're going to have a written, but I'm 173 00:12:25,150 --> 00:12:28,230 having trouble conceptualizing. 174 00:12:28,650 --> 00:12:37,530 Oh, when you're changing the process, this is not a particular item that we're petitioning 175 00:12:37,530 --> 00:12:40,170 on, we're changing the process of what the petition's made. 176 00:12:41,170 --> 00:12:41,490 Okay. 177 00:12:43,550 --> 00:12:49,270 Because currently you said it's, yeah, there would have to be two meetings to discuss that. 178 00:12:49,330 --> 00:12:51,730 Before it was, now we can all read in one meeting. 179 00:12:51,890 --> 00:12:56,930 It seemed like that word was trying out for us, so this just makes it easier for the committee. 180 00:12:57,250 --> 00:13:01,330 It's easier for the citizens who were on the street to talk to you all. 181 00:13:01,870 --> 00:13:02,270 It 182 00:13:04,670 --> 00:13:10,650 was unfortunate to turn out for our street, it was really technical, it was a lot of learning 183 00:13:10,650 --> 00:13:13,090 involved in getting those made up to every single 184 00:13:13,090 --> 00:13:16,890 resident on the street, and so this is a string line. 185 00:13:16,950 --> 00:13:20,770 I just do a public hearing, and go from there. 186 00:13:21,890 --> 00:13:25,310 And you would expect the person to come in person. 187 00:13:26,090 --> 00:13:32,650 If you don't know the public meeting would go out 188 00:13:32,650 --> 00:13:39,370 through the town's announcement, not as a letter to the resident. 189 00:13:39,370 --> 00:13:40,010 Okay, 190 00:13:49,620 --> 00:13:54,320 and there would still be another chance if anybody wanted to because after we 191 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,320 approved this committee it goes to the Select Board. So they would have another 192 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:03,420 hearing so it's actually still going to be two instead of 30. So it just makes 193 00:14:03,420 --> 00:14:07,420 it a little more that is just that streamlined and easier to work with. 194 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:13,540 So by the petition itself that is being changed? 195 00:14:13,540 --> 00:14:21,960 No, no, not the petition from the public, from the person, but the policy of how we handle that petition would be 196 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:24,040 extremely, 197 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,400 hopefully it will be quicker, easier, and... 198 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:29,740 Yeah, get it done. 199 00:14:30,060 --> 00:14:31,660 Yes, get it done, get it done, get it done. 200 00:14:32,420 --> 00:14:33,840 Instead of trying to get out. 201 00:14:34,260 --> 00:14:37,920 I think that one stream won't work out well, that seems to have been a success. 202 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,860 So we can make it easier to do it, maybe we can do more of it. 203 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,280 So any further discussion? 204 00:14:57,090 --> 00:14:57,810 So moved. 205 00:14:58,410 --> 00:14:59,210 So I think I did. 206 00:15:00,340 --> 00:15:01,800 All in favor? Aye. 207 00:15:04,500 --> 00:15:04,980 Okay. 208 00:15:10,940 --> 00:15:29,000 Now, I had a number six on the agenda, but I don't have to get to it. Is that any of the lessons? Because I was like, okay, I'm reading, I have one glass. That doesn't matter. So, and that's just the change way we operate to have meetings. 209 00:15:35,380 --> 00:15:53,970 We would have to make a change to the policy, right, to the committee's policy, how the committee is drawn on, yes, so we need to make that a formal proposal or just vote on it and agree to meet ad hoc. 210 00:15:53,970 --> 00:16:02,230 I think just to read a meat as needed, and if we need to change it, I'll just take it to the side board and then change it. 211 00:16:02,530 --> 00:16:08,470 Okay, I think if there's a reason agreement with that, to meet when you're needed, or when you have a request. 212 00:16:10,930 --> 00:16:15,850 Okay, so I so move, a second. 213 00:16:16,450 --> 00:16:17,890 I will second. 214 00:16:17,890 --> 00:16:19,050 I've got a vote on, right? 215 00:16:19,310 --> 00:16:19,730 Hi. 216 00:16:20,290 --> 00:16:20,430 Hi. 217 00:16:21,170 --> 00:16:21,450 Okay. 218 00:16:22,330 --> 00:16:22,870 You're early, right? 219 00:16:22,950 --> 00:16:23,230 Long. 220 00:16:24,530 --> 00:16:25,410 You named us. 221 00:16:25,430 --> 00:16:26,490 That was very good. 222 00:16:27,770 --> 00:16:28,890 All right. 223 00:16:30,070 --> 00:16:31,950 The reds, reds be one of the signs. 224 00:16:32,290 --> 00:16:38,970 Just all the email and the article that I sent you about that work, who's not here at 225 00:16:38,970 --> 00:16:39,090 the night. 226 00:16:39,170 --> 00:16:39,910 He's in California. 227 00:16:40,630 --> 00:16:43,830 He's been in touch with State Highway Department. 228 00:16:43,830 --> 00:16:48,450 There's no formal policy in being about doing this. 229 00:16:49,330 --> 00:16:57,570 They expressed a hint of interest if we were to do that as a pilot project to help them get a data on it. 230 00:16:58,580 --> 00:17:05,370 There is one over in Camden on Route 52 Mountain. 231 00:17:05,890 --> 00:17:15,370 As you turn to go out of town on Mountain Street, there's a big speed limit sign with a red border around it. 232 00:17:16,810 --> 00:17:24,510 And it immediately gets your attention. When I read the article, I thought, maybe this is something we can do. 233 00:17:27,030 --> 00:17:33,930 What we would have to do, we would have to come up with a proposal, take it to the... 234 00:17:33,930 --> 00:17:35,490 I want to see the varieties. 235 00:17:37,250 --> 00:17:39,810 If we can throw, I think we're throwing things, 236 00:17:40,450 --> 00:17:42,370 John and I are talking about this before me, 237 00:17:42,630 --> 00:17:45,730 and you're saying we can get the state's attention with this. 238 00:17:46,910 --> 00:17:49,390 We're not going to get money from the state for it. 239 00:17:49,850 --> 00:17:52,590 And you know, the speed of the status cost of 100, 240 00:17:52,750 --> 00:17:54,010 you know, about $1,000. 241 00:17:55,350 --> 00:17:55,830 And 242 00:17:57,910 --> 00:17:59,250 then play back and play back. 243 00:17:59,690 --> 00:17:59,710 The things. 244 00:18:05,540 --> 00:18:09,120 The signs will be bigger than the existing speed of the sign, 245 00:18:09,120 --> 00:18:24,680 because the area that sign is skimping and what's being written is prescribed as we sort of sign so we have to make a clear sign which also is tension to his hair. 246 00:18:27,300 --> 00:18:35,620 So we have to come up with a proposal to ask you to air it now and write something about it. 247 00:18:35,780 --> 00:18:40,080 We're going to take it for a single request and we'll listen to their help. 248 00:18:42,800 --> 00:19:01,280 My idea was every street at coming in town, where it reaches this similar town, Beachwood, 249 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:16,420 and visually streets are kind of off-rood one, and lots of other fish street between main 250 00:19:16,420 --> 00:19:17,240 feeder streets. 251 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:31,260 You mean in town, you know, Route 1 is a different story of course because that state, I don't 252 00:19:31,260 --> 00:19:34,080 We can get to a change in the speed of the science-based area. 253 00:19:35,260 --> 00:19:37,940 We can get a change to it as well. 254 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:43,960 And we can have a police department run in Black Hat, 255 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:49,480 a baseline for both speeds, with counts of speed, 256 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,600 and the average speed is used for the streets before. 257 00:19:52,540 --> 00:19:54,560 And then we run it again after the science-based area. 258 00:19:56,910 --> 00:19:59,710 We run it six weeks later, and see if it's any effect. 259 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:23,860 I think the beard, more of you, street to be the one that's in war with traffic. 260 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:40,700 Yeah, we can't do anything within the OG Street, that's not our problem, but we can do our streets, so we think we'll see to which street has a lot of traffic on it, water street has a lot of traffic on it, water street has a lot of traffic on it. 261 00:20:41,220 --> 00:20:46,440 Those are the streets that are probably the benefit of having this kind of sign on it. 262 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,100 Yeah, I think that we don't have to worry about it. 263 00:20:48,100 --> 00:20:54,600 We've been asked to suggest we want to do a session of lots of work and work. 264 00:20:55,900 --> 00:20:59,360 We've just tried to turn us into a rocker family. 265 00:20:59,900 --> 00:21:00,380 It's very convenient. 266 00:21:02,340 --> 00:21:02,920 Probably. 267 00:21:03,620 --> 00:21:11,660 Well, what I've observed is that many offenders are coming in from lots of work, 268 00:21:11,660 --> 00:21:18,400 two water streams and they kind of buzz went along and then that surprised that there's 269 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:26,600 a stop sign if they don't do it at all. But at that last meeting, I think Lizman talking 270 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:34,080 about the fact that if the water stream is not speed, I know one of the other speeds is, 271 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:52,180 It's not as much speed because it's a point you go like, and so, and then, and then, and then, and then, and the way people take off from their sound sign is not as comfortable. 272 00:21:52,180 --> 00:21:57,300 But that's about 20% of the time. 273 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:05,060 I say 15% that really is not just people's work. 274 00:22:07,180 --> 00:22:11,100 Well, the sidewalk that was the other way around. 275 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,680 The sidewalk that was serious about this, 276 00:22:15,460 --> 00:22:23,140 That's the message. That's why we will try this. It's, uh, it's no word to come. 277 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,160 That's the great idea. 278 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,060 We're not going to put that sign that says 70 miles an hour. 279 00:22:53,220 --> 00:22:57,780 I don't know what happened, there was a collision with the recession with the hatchery 280 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:11,940 I don't know what happened, it could be the truck coming up in the box, it's going straight, 281 00:23:12,820 --> 00:23:17,100 the truck on Badger, the bodies didn't last night's dreams back home. 282 00:23:27,460 --> 00:23:34,920 I think that you're this correct, the approach on putting this kind of signs in is for this 283 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:40,640 committee to make a recommendation to the select board to try and to investigate 284 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:46,080 whether they will work or not, then the select board can ask the police to work in order 285 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:52,060 the public and actually look in the way this committee can't say let's do it but the committee can 286 00:23:52,060 --> 00:23:57,380 write them down to the slide board and they'll investigate it and see if it'll work and then it 287 00:23:57,380 --> 00:24:03,260 becomes a project not just stick this in and it comes out the program and the select board will be a lot 288 00:24:03,260 --> 00:24:04,540 I don't know what happened to move out of here. 289 00:24:04,900 --> 00:24:05,860 Yeah, yeah. 290 00:24:06,340 --> 00:24:08,180 And make a resolution. 291 00:24:09,500 --> 00:24:09,720 Yeah. 292 00:24:10,260 --> 00:24:10,360 Yeah. 293 00:24:11,180 --> 00:24:12,400 And I think that's true. 294 00:24:12,580 --> 00:24:13,980 And I'm going to have water stream there. 295 00:24:14,100 --> 00:24:16,500 I'd be turning it over. 296 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:17,280 Yeah. 297 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:18,080 Let's see. 298 00:24:18,360 --> 00:24:19,260 And you're going to say no. 299 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:21,180 What was it? 300 00:24:21,420 --> 00:24:21,740 What was it? 301 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:23,160 Yeah. 302 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:23,740 What was it? 303 00:24:23,740 --> 00:24:24,600 It's very easy. 304 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:25,640 Yeah. 305 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:30,280 I mean, I've wanted it to stop at the sea. 306 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,900 And if you want it, you want it. 307 00:24:41,820 --> 00:24:59,500 I'm going to go to the pubic camp and I'm going out of town through Brooklyn and this black pickup truck is coming towards me and I'm just going to take a long walk down the road and I don't know if they're not watching my speed 308 00:24:59,500 --> 00:25:04,680 And the truck flashes his blue light and I'm like, oh, this is what I'm going to do. 309 00:25:09,580 --> 00:25:16,380 He just gave me that warning, you know, in passing, I'm like, oh my God. 310 00:25:17,060 --> 00:25:21,220 I think I confessed shortly after joining. 311 00:25:22,300 --> 00:25:28,540 And I still, I know that I stopped, but then, and I think he came as I was going around 312 00:25:28,540 --> 00:25:33,920 and so I stopped on a Sunday morning and I said, you know, just tell me what to pay 313 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:42,720 you because I'm on the track, he was very sweet and I talked to the policemen occasionally 314 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:49,300 when they parked on Green Street and because I think they've done a very effective job 315 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:09,040 So we're going to one number seven, sorry, I haven't done this, it's a separate period 316 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:17,560 of things, but I can easily say decades, but you want me to say that there's a possibility 317 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:25,740 is a pilot program which we'd like to submit to the Select Line to try out this new idea 318 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,240 on a couple of different forms of history. 319 00:26:29,660 --> 00:26:34,060 I don't think you need to make the motion air how to start it. 320 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:34,620 Come up with that. 321 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:34,980 Yeah. 322 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:36,480 Okay. 323 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,940 And do you want to have anything else? 324 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:42,780 Yes. 325 00:26:42,780 --> 00:26:50,640 That's on, as you all may know, Thomas and his journeyed in with Warren Rockland Rockboard 326 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:56,960 and Camden in a five-town project to try to look at traffic calming on Route 1. 327 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:05,740 And this is a program that is being headed up by the Mid Coast Council of Governments, of course, 328 00:27:05,740 --> 00:27:07,460 which were one of the two. 329 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:14,600 And the plan is to hire a consultant to view the room one 330 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,160 traffic fall through here as part of this also. 331 00:27:18,540 --> 00:27:20,800 There's a separate part of the funding 332 00:27:21,530 --> 00:27:23,720 that will pay for the consultants 333 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,780 to look at some of the side streets in Charleston, 334 00:27:26,180 --> 00:27:26,980 just in Charleston. 335 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,380 And the other times, the other four towns 336 00:27:30,380 --> 00:27:32,860 also have things that are being done individually for them. 337 00:27:32,860 --> 00:27:39,320 But all five of us are working on the calming program for calming and safety. 338 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,140 How do you get calming and safety through on Route 1? 339 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,880 And I started drawing up a list of the things that I would like to have them consider 340 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:48,820 in this town. 341 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:57,060 This goes everywhere from some sort of an improvement at where 131 North joins into Route 1. 342 00:27:57,060 --> 00:28:02,120 how do we make the out of bed that would help to slow down traffic coming into town? 343 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,360 How do we look at areas just like yours? 344 00:28:05,580 --> 00:28:08,440 That's one of the other ones into the bad spot, how do we correct that? 345 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:15,780 Is there any way that we can come up with another route from 131 south going across and tying 346 00:28:15,780 --> 00:28:23,920 on to Batmer Road or on to Dexter Street, or some way that would eliminate some of that traffic 347 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:31,560 coming up 131 and being into Rockland without going on a road one. Similarly, is there a way that we 348 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:38,280 could go from all county road over by Dragon Mountain across to Beechwood Street and eliminate 349 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:44,460 people who are trying to get to Rockland the back way, could go there on a road one, people coming 350 00:28:44,460 --> 00:28:52,880 across to instead of driving through the terrible intersection in Mill Creek could bypass that and go 351 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,580 more around and go up Beachwood Street, 352 00:28:54,740 --> 00:28:56,680 with this health current traffic down, 353 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,940 and could we look at putting a sidewalk on new one, 354 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,100 continue we get through the walk-in, 355 00:29:04,340 --> 00:29:06,280 maybe things are changing in there, 356 00:29:06,540 --> 00:29:10,140 with Dragon having been closed down in that land. 357 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,340 Some of that land is now for sale. 358 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,560 So does this mean that there will be development occurring 359 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:16,820 in that area in the future? 360 00:29:17,420 --> 00:29:20,120 Couldn't we be providing a better way to get people to walk? 361 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,460 So if you have any ideas of things 362 00:29:22,460 --> 00:29:29,000 you would like to think about on Route 1 calming. Let me know because this program is 363 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,940 installed at the moment because the federal government is holding it up until they have 364 00:29:32,940 --> 00:29:37,700 more money, I guess. But as soon as we get it going, we're going to have a consultant who 365 00:29:37,700 --> 00:29:41,640 will look into all these for the different times. So I want to be able to represent Thomas 366 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:48,640 then with concrete ideas that should be explored. So if you have any thoughts, don't hesitate 367 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:55,460 to email me, or yell at me, or whatever, and let me know what you're thinking. 368 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,700 Because I'd like to put together something that we can give to a consultant. 369 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:07,100 And say, these are the things we'd like to think about in Thomason to help one, the safer, cover, 370 00:30:07,780 --> 00:30:17,160 way to get through talent. So, and that's a terrible intersection at 131 South and Route 1, because a major 371 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:25,320 accident there, the only way to get around is just to go to Route 90. And that's a terrible. We need a better arrangement there. 372 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,800 Yeah, but someone I have one question because I have seen 373 00:30:30,540 --> 00:30:35,660 Probably very old maps that show a really used to run behind 374 00:30:37,460 --> 00:30:44,440 Good news. Yeah, we still on the right away of that month. Okay. There we go number one. However 375 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:52,880 Yeah, over the years there have been those I call mountains those blotch piles of debris behind dragon 376 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,780 and I read on top of that, they used to burn, burn, burn, burn. 377 00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:02,700 We do all the right-of-way, and my feeling is, if we ever wanted to, we could negotiate 378 00:31:02,700 --> 00:31:06,400 with those people, they would either have to give us a right-of-way around the town, 379 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,040 or they'd have to move the fire. 380 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:15,660 So I think we hold the upper hand on that one there, but that's a possibility for us, 381 00:31:15,820 --> 00:31:18,080 solving the whole problem, because we already hold the right-of-way. 382 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:24,180 right? Well, I would take care of everybody coming up from from Jamont Tower and South 383 00:31:24,180 --> 00:31:31,600 Thomas, maybe South Thomas, as well. I noticed the other day when I was coming 384 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:39,660 through way off and go down the street, you know, and people are very 385 00:31:39,660 --> 00:31:45,620 polite there and they're very generous about asking to go ahead and giving 386 00:31:45,620 --> 00:31:52,900 I mean, the space by a car was coming on the right hand side of the right hand car. 387 00:31:53,940 --> 00:31:58,500 And there was an ear and going fast, too. 388 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:06,920 And I realized then there's no paint or anything that says, you know, this or that. 389 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,920 But whatever happened to the bypass project? 390 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,220 Oh, I've been one of the people who lived in the area north of here where we wanted to 391 00:32:26,220 --> 00:32:27,540 put a bypass, don't want one. 392 00:32:28,100 --> 00:32:35,980 But if we put a road from Dragon Mountain over to Beatrice Street, and we somehow connected 393 00:32:35,980 --> 00:32:41,440 some of the roads like Elm Street and Stony Brook Lane that are dead end on order one, we 394 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:46,040 We can connect them on the inside there and really make a big improvement in that whole 395 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:46,760 theory of them. 396 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:51,980 Without building a bike fast, just connecting roads together and we've got a problem here. 397 00:32:52,100 --> 00:32:54,080 We don't even own this road out here. 398 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:55,140 That's the schools. 399 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:57,520 The town doesn't own that. 400 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:04,540 So there is really, we've got the whole Sawyerville with only Booker Street to get our own one. 401 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:09,360 Really better if we have room to come across the Sawyerville over here at Beechwood Street 402 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:15,900 They could probably run the light on Beachwood Street, so there were a number of things we could be looking at that would be better official at the time. 403 00:33:18,060 --> 00:33:19,580 I'm with you on the bypass. 404 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:28,680 If I were a landowner and the back of my property would back me up to it, I wouldn't like that. 405 00:33:28,860 --> 00:33:30,380 I totally sent that as well. 406 00:33:30,380 --> 00:33:33,560 But it's good. 407 00:33:33,940 --> 00:33:34,080 True. 408 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,040 Well, you know, I mean times have changed. 409 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:42,800 I work in a booth bay and I've watched what's got to debate whether an amitation can 410 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:43,240 bypass. 411 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,140 I guess it's getting on to 70 years now. 412 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:57,960 I used to say 60 but I don't know how you can go into the warehouse and not see how helpful 413 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:07,060 Yes, yes, now maybe the population has changed enough, when did we spend 15 years in all that it was? 414 00:34:07,060 --> 00:34:08,680 10 or 15 years ago. 415 00:34:09,700 --> 00:34:15,200 So maybe there are more to present town and you have more to sit on. 416 00:34:15,720 --> 00:34:20,420 And maybe something that came from the whole county road across the beachwood street 417 00:34:20,420 --> 00:34:23,840 and then you had to go up or down the beachwood street to go to the next part 418 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:30,860 It wouldn't be reviewed as a bypass, but it would be viewed as the local roads that it's 419 00:34:30,860 --> 00:34:31,340 sold out. 420 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,220 So, the maybe ways that we can work with that now, I believe. 421 00:34:35,500 --> 00:34:40,500 You know, I don't think we should, you know, build an idea of how I'm all about for it. 422 00:34:40,820 --> 00:34:49,220 I mean, if you have any good idea, any ideas, period, about how we could make things better 423 00:34:49,220 --> 00:34:55,160 one. This is something that I expect by next winter we're going to be working on. 424 00:34:55,660 --> 00:35:00,360 Good. And I would love to have something that a consultant would be able to recommend, 425 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,240 because that's going to help sell it to DOT. 426 00:35:03,700 --> 00:35:09,680 Yeah. Okay. Can I ask Tommy a question? What brought you here? 427 00:35:12,180 --> 00:35:18,000 I have been putting up the dog waste bins and doing much other things. 428 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,420 But in doing the thoughtless things, I've been spending a lot of time walking the routes 429 00:35:22,420 --> 00:35:23,140 there. 430 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:33,020 If you put them on with my dog and noticing things, just pay any attention. 431 00:35:33,780 --> 00:35:37,260 I wanted to see what you all were up to. 432 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:39,720 I love his ideas. 433 00:35:40,140 --> 00:35:45,800 I've been thinking about a lot of that stuff before, and you can tell him about helping out 434 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:46,440 the volunteers. 435 00:35:46,820 --> 00:35:46,980 Yeah. 436 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:57,300 Well, I mean, I initially came here because of the corner of the green and the water 437 00:35:57,300 --> 00:35:57,660 street. 438 00:35:58,340 --> 00:36:04,160 I mean, I have all my, you know, a secret places and ways of getting without going to rock 439 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:11,200 when, you know, getting around, but that's a big challenge, but it's badly needed. 440 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:21,020 I mean, the woman's restaurant, I mean, dominant ice cream, dangerous, I mean, any number 441 00:36:21,020 --> 00:36:25,760 of those places, so I'll be thinking about it. 442 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:26,780 Good. 443 00:36:27,700 --> 00:36:29,800 And I love that idea. 444 00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:39,860 I went to the place where you take metal instead of the dump and saw that that road continued 445 00:36:39,860 --> 00:36:42,940 or it seemed to, so I don't know about it. 446 00:36:43,060 --> 00:36:44,100 You see how far that goes. 447 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,980 And then that's what we can work to get in. 448 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:48,660 Yeah. 449 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:50,520 But I think that's a great thing. 450 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:51,680 There's a great thing. 451 00:36:52,700 --> 00:36:54,020 And then, yeah. 452 00:36:54,780 --> 00:36:56,440 That is a sketchy place. 453 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,180 That is a sketchy place. 454 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:00,720 That is a sketchy place. 455 00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:02,420 That is a sketchy place. 456 00:37:03,740 --> 00:37:09,320 That is a sketchy place. 457 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:20,000 If I hear more about the, it's called the SS4A, Safe Streets for All Program, I'd like 458 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:20,900 to get more information. 459 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,660 I'll ask Richard to have a committee meeting so we can talk a lot. 460 00:37:25,140 --> 00:37:33,300 So I think at the last meeting you mentioned that when Knox Street is finished, are you really 461 00:37:33,300 --> 00:37:34,080 going to work on? 462 00:37:34,900 --> 00:37:36,480 Because I'm going to try to figure out. 463 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:45,760 I have submitted a request for money around $75,000 to design the street from the railroad 464 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:52,940 crossing at North Street where we stop around the corner and cross the water street to 465 00:37:52,940 --> 00:37:54,400 mark two or one street. 466 00:37:55,140 --> 00:37:57,800 So I'm forced to find out this month whether we get the grand or not. 467 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:02,880 But if we get the grand, I want to design, have that design, have the engineers work on that, 468 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:09,140 And then I can start looking for funding to do it, so that's my next project is I really would like to get that 469 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:16,160 Lot of street badly needs to be rebuilt and it needs to be raised up a little bit on the other end because it's gonna flood if we don't 470 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:39,620 We can continue more of that kind of work, it's really worthwhile, and we didn't pay our 471 00:38:44,380 --> 00:38:44,940 I yes 472 00:38:44,940 --> 00:38:45,280 I 473 00:38:48,620 --> 00:38:52,720 am I supposed to make the list of who is this meeting? 474 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,420 I mean, your name was Barbar. 475 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:56,280 I mean, yes. 476 00:38:56,500 --> 00:38:57,960 Do I need the last name? 477 00:38:59,160 --> 00:38:59,860 I can write it. 478 00:39:00,220 --> 00:39:00,660 Oh, okay. 479 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,240 Oh, there it is. 480 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:08,080 Motion detector. 481 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:08,940 Yeah. 482 00:39:10,220 --> 00:39:11,180 We're snoozing. 483 00:39:11,540 --> 00:39:11,640 Hello. 484 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,820 Has Aunt Daisy had any room? 485 00:39:17,780 --> 00:39:19,880 Anyone old on maternity leave? 486 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,480 And I don't think she's come back. 487 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,860 And I actually doubt her she's going to come back. 488 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:24,220 OK. 489 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,400 So she's basically the aunt of Georgia. 490 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:26,780 Go on. 491 00:39:28,700 --> 00:39:31,900 The head of the Rincos Council of government is retiring 492 00:39:31,900 --> 00:39:32,980 in the end of this month. 493 00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:36,020 They don't know what they're doing for staffing. 494 00:39:42,940 --> 00:39:47,440 She's a very nice, very nice person, and she's not that bad. 495 00:39:48,940 --> 00:39:52,160 And can I email you this? 496 00:39:52,420 --> 00:39:52,940 Yes, certainly. 497 00:39:53,460 --> 00:39:53,860 Okay. 498 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:55,880 I'll work on it tonight. 499 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:09,420 Okay. 500 00:40:09,820 --> 00:40:12,960 Well, I think it's really kind of exciting. 501 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:22,620 I'm going to say that in terms of safety aspect of everything. 502 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,300 Okay, any other business 503 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,220 here in motion? 504 00:40:30,660 --> 00:40:31,700 Thank 505 00:40:34,990 --> 00:40:35,210 you. 506 00:40:37,190 --> 00:40:37,710 Great. 507 00:40:39,090 --> 00:40:42,330 I will pass this agenda on.