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Stability, beautification, committee hearing,

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call mifes. Jones, here. Driscoll, here. Cramer, here. McPherson, here. Five present, also present, gattest and seron too.

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Thanks, everybody, it's here from the administration, as well as the public. We really are looking forward to hearing from all of you and what is going to happen.

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So a few housekeeping moments before we really get started.

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There is a sign-up sheet that is on the podium.

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It will move its way over to the side table over here.

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If you intend to speak and make public comments, please sign up on that sheet.

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So we can get to everybody in order.

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We generally keep about a three minute per person rule.

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So we can make sure we hear from everybody.

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I just have some discretion on that.

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So we will see how that goes.

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And we will first hear from the administration once we get rolling here and then council will be able to ask questions that they would like to ask and then we will open it to public comments.

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Here we go.

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teams at the environmental services who were onsite and providing air quality testing before

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the EPA even arrived.

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All of these responders put themselves in harm's way to protect our residents and save lives

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and we're, I don't want to speak for all Council, but I would imagine all deeply grateful

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for their courage, professionals, and committed.

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I also want to thank the governmental agencies that responded, those responsible for emergency

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management, public health, environmental monitoring, and more.

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They're coordinated efforts where essential protecting residents during immediate crisis in its

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afternoon.

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But gratitude for the response cannot substitute for accountability about what happens

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and I believe that we need answers.

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Brent Industries is operating in a community where residents have a reasonable expectation

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that industrial facilities will operate safely and responsibly.

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When there is a major explosion and fire, the public deserves to know what happens.

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What failed, whether all applicable safety requirements were being followed, and whether

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warning signs existed before this incident even occurred.

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There are also serious questions about the company's obligations to the community.

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It's my understanding that threat industry is currently $861,000 in the rears on its water bill,

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and nearly $20,000 in property taxes.

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That is an extraordinary amount of money, and it raises legitimate questions about the company's financial conditions.

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It's obligations to the city and whether there are broader compliance or oversight issues that this committee needs to understand.

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The public should not be left wondering whether financial difficulties, operational decisions, maintenance compliance or other factors play any role in the conditions at this facility.

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And while we investigate those questions, we cannot lose sight of the people who live nearby.

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I'm particularly concerned by residents who continue to tell us that they're experiencing symptoms through following the fire.

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those residents deserve more than assurances, they deserve answers, access to

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We need to know what was released during the explosion in the fire. We need to know what environmental testing is found, and we need to know what monitoring was conducted, and I'm looking forward to hearing all of that today.

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And I think it will beg the question whether additional testing is necessary, but I think that everybody will have a better understanding of what all has been done after today's presentation.

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The people living in this neighborhood should not have to become their own investigators to determine whether they're safe.

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This hearing should, therefore, be about facts transparency and accountability.

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If bread industries fail to meet its responsibilities, we need to know.

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Affregulations were not followed, we need to know.

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If inspections, permitting, and fortunately communication broke down, we need to know these things.

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Our obligation is not simply to respond when something goes wrong.

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Our obligation is to do everything within our authority to prevent these incidents.

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So I identify risks before they become emerge disease and to make sure that companies operating in our community meet their responsibilities to the public.

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So today I anticipate hearing difficult questions, not because this committee wants to pre-judge the outcome of any investigation, but because the people we represent deserve real answers.

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So without that or with that, we'll keep it over to the administration.

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So I understand what I'm talking to you there.

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Good afternoon, Mr. Chair, Members of Council,

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I'm Abby Arnold Deputy Mayor.

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I'm joined today by Deputy Chief Pasadne of

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Toledo Fire and Rescue and Abbott Salmon Commissioner

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of Environmental Services.

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On August 18th, we suffered a tragedy when a

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second alarm fire claimed the lives of two members

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of our community.

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On behalf of Mayor Kebsickavage and the City of Toledo,

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we offer our sincere condolences to the families,

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friends, and co-workers of the victims.

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Deputy Chief Pasadne served as incident commander during the response and environmental services

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was the first environmental agency on scene working alongside Slido Fire and Rescue to help

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ensure the health and safety of the surrounding neighborhood.

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This was a significant and complex response involving six fire and rescue bureaus, more than

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a hundred Slido fire fighters, employees representing six city departments and 15 local state

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and federal agencies and partner organizations.

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that coordinated response has continued beyond the immediate

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emergency as work at the site is progressed.

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We also recognize that residents who live near the site have

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questions and concerns about the potential impact of this

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incident on their neighborhood, particularly as it relates to

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air and water quality. Those concerns are understandable

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and residents deserve clear information about what has been

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done, what the testing has shown, and what we will continue

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to be monitoring going forward.

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And that is why today's conversation is important.

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We're here to provide council and the public with an overview of the response.

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Deputy Chief Pasadne will walk through Toledo Fire and Rescue's response to the fire and

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commissioner Saman will discuss the environmental response, including the city's coordination

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with our state and federal partners.

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The environmental testing and monitoring that has occurred in the ongoing work at the site.

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Unfortunately, representatives from the U.S. and Ohio EPA were unable to join us today.

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However, Commissioner Saman will be able to speak to their role in the response and the

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continued environmental monitoring and oversight moving forward.

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I want to thank the city employees and our local state and federal partners who responded

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to an extraordinarily difficult incident and who continue to be engaged in the work

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that has followed.

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Most importantly, we want the residents who have questions about this incident to have access

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to the facts and an understanding of the work that has been and continues to be done

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protect their health and safety.

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We appreciate the opportunity to provide that information today and answer council's questions.

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With that, I will turn it over to Deputy Chief Pasadne.

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Good afternoon.

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My name is Mike Pasadne.

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I am the Deputy Chief of Operations and Special Operations for the City of Toledo.

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Fire Department.

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Our alarm came in around 450 in the morning.

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They were sent to Bren Industries on a possible explosion.

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They're getting multiple calls on this.

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I was alerted at home, so I immediately got in and left work for early before they even dispatched us.

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They could see by the text, what was coming in, that was something significant.

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While I started going route, dispatched, I was listening to the channel.

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The incident commander, Battalion II, Chief Dana Williams, was first on scene.

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He was given a size up what he had in front of him.

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off of this size up, I start a contact in our dispatch to get a hold to little environmental

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how EPA, because I knew we had more than what we could handle.

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We had active rescue, the way in place, we had 12 people that were missing, and that's

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what they were focusing on at first, they originally because of the devastation.

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We have a 42,000 square foot building that was heavily damaged from the explosions, multiple explosions.

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The concerns were more explosions. We had 40,000 gallons of get starter, solid on the back side and the tanks.

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So that was one of the concerns.

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So they went to a defense of operation while they were still setting up.

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having water issues, also when I was in rout, it's called dispatch, start getting on the water

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Atlas with the explosions. Most of the time, you'll have infrastructure damage and also the building,

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a sprinkler. So when the building is heavily damaged, they're losing water, so we're able to tell

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them, tell them members shut down the post indicator valves and shut down that increase the water

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So going that I arrived on the scene, started establishin' safety zones,

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then we started, so some of the people they came out of it, started trying to get a head count,

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I kept asking for a roster to this day, I still didn't have a roster of the members that were in the building.

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So we're trying to piece together. How many people are still in there? So we went from 12, down to 4, down to 3, 2, and then in our search efforts.

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We had different descriptions of missing people and missing workers. So our numbers are starting to climb back up because the descriptions weren't matching.

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So we had a lot of stuff going on at the time, I made a call for the NRC, National Response

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Once you contact that, they'll hit all the federal agencies because we were tasked to

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saturate it, we were focused on rescue.

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At the time, we still had 12 people.

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We did not confirm until we started confirm.

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We still haven't confirmed.

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So we got video evidence that we could start going through and doing head counts on

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that everybody was a count of four.

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So that took hours into it to get everything out because we had to pull a stop out of the building.

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The building, so it's up 42,000 is collapsed.

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Down had heavy fire conditions, but we had our hazmat teams there.

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I had to use them, and our technical rescue team, to start searching these buildings.

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There was, we would call pancakes.

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They would completely drop down, but our members are trained.

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So there have searchable weights, even though we had heavy fire conditions.

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I switched it from a defensive to an offensive, and we started doing rescue searches.

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They were able to take saws and we caught tunneling through the pile and when as far as they

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could, based on our last known information of several of the people, we went on a testimony

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of people that were on the scene, and we started focusing in those areas.

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There was one that was a discrepancy where there was someone further under the building, so we started getting excavators coming in case we had to dig in further.

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And our team was able to search for where they encountered heavy fire and then they had to start making their way back.

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During the search process, they were able to locate two deceased employees through the search and then we went from a rescue to a recovery.

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Because at that time, the building was completely engulfed in flames, and then we could not

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handle it.

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We were able to search some of the front offices to make sure there was no one in there.

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It's always still got a official head count.

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I said, when I got hold of the U.S. EPA, the first thing they contacted me, I was asking

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do we need shelter in place, or start sudden plume modeling, and also do we need to evacuate

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When they did their Eval, they were saying, no, not at the time, so that's where we went from there.

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So the environmental agencies were handling the air monitoring.

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That's what I request that we could not handle it.

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We had too many other things going on.

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So not sit there and wait and start to get the agencies coming here quickly.

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And that's pretty much it for us as a technical rescue team.

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So as they put it out there in the line, very good.

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No one else are going to build it, but they did.

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Okay, I think I'll have Abbott Suman talk through the environmental response.

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Good afternoon.

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I'd like to say that this tragedy is not even begins to describe what happened.

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Especially the loss of life.

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our hearts co-opt to those who lost loved ones and that read and brings it more real to

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how important our role is and that just is a city but also as environmental services.

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The Division of Environmental Services was notified about 5.2530 in the morning by 6.45.

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We had the responder on the scene that reported to insidic command, it becomes the unified command for the incident, and upon our arrival, we estimated the facility was roughly about 85% destroyed from the initial explosion.

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TFRD was providing a massive fire and searching for employees, what our role was, we started

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by the way, surveyed the area and became conducting air monitoring by when we arrived

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at the scene.

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Unified command and notified National Response Center, which is alerted the U.S. EPA and

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EPA of the incident, but also environmental services, we contacted our local representatives

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of the U.S. EPA and the highly EPA to make sure that they are there to a class.

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So we know that we do not want to take any chances.

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We want to make sure we talk to someone.

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The National Response Center, which referred to as NRC, is the primary federal point of contact

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for reporting all oil spills, chemical releases,

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reological discharges,

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unbiological contamination incidents within the United States.

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They are operated by the US Coast Guard,

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while they do not deploy responders.

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Their role is to notify and emergency

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dispatch of all correct federal, state, and local agencies.

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I thought that is important to know this well.

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So when we got there by nine o'clock,

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we have deployed two more teams to perform air monitoring

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around the area in the neighborhood

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or with the surrounding neighborhood.

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And after starting this, we contacted Lucas County

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local emergency planning committee, which I'm sure

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certificate for to have LEPC and their role is they are the designated local county board

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responsible for managing chemical inventory and the surrounding Toledo area in the Luke's County

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and collect tier two hazard reports. And what they do they maintain a comprehensive hazardous

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inventory of facilities that are supposed to report to them, and also they help in modeling

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based on the known materials that are there, where our efforts need to be, and that was about

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in mind around the industries. And that's where we deploy our teams to make sure that they

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get the readings, hair monitoring, and that area. We did not have any readings on the devices

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that we have on the meters. And it's good to note here that these meters that we use give

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a broad spectrum what could be in the air. We refer to them as CGM sort of common.

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designed to tell the person carrying the meter if there is an immediate danger where they are

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out aiming this around here. That's why we use them when we survey the area and visit the

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neighborhood. But the only reading we got that morning was 5.3 ppm parts from a real

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seas directly next to the fence line of the property. But when our staff moved away from

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friends flying to South Avenue to the street, the entrance, it was zero.

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And those were also the readings of zero throughout the neighborhood and the locations that we

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revisited.

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At approximately 10 a.m., U.S. EPA arrived from the scene, and by 10-30, they began

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but even though they had their own air monitoring,

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our staff continued to monitor the air in the neighborhood

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within that mild radius.

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And specifically, we visited each and every

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what decided or recommended by LAPC as sensitive areas

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or sensitive locations.

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It could be a school, it could be a day-to-day,

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it could be a nursing home of the identify these, so we make sure that we visit it.

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And every location. So even though U.S. EPA contractor began monitoring, we continued to monitors throughout the neighborhood.

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And to this day and for the foreseeable future, we are continuing to have environmental services to monitor the air daily.

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And so far, we have no readings indicating its right to help based on the equipment that we have.

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Based on the regular back to the incident,

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based on the available information at that time,

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U.S. EPA on the scene coordinator mobilized their contractors

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to conduct 24-hour community air monitoring in the affected neighborhood.

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The contractor monitor for VOC's of all global organic compounds, PM-10 in micrometers and PM-2.5,

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these are the size of particles, and they did not have any alarming meetings, there were

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three days that indicate any threat from these sort of elements.

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According to the data, they collected the SEPA indicated that they detected no readings of a concern to the public.

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Also, the SEPA contacted the agency for toxic substances in disease registry, who referred to as ATSDR,

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which is a federal public health agency in the United States that works to protect people from

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harmful exposure of hazardous substances of long modeling, so they do the full modeling.

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According to that agency and their modeling, assuming the worst case scenario of 40,000 gallons

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of kerosene because we did not know that point in what was in those tanks but also take

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the worst case scenario according to U.S. EPA, the SDDR, considered worst case scenario

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would be 40,000 gallons of kerosene. The full modeling showed that the hazard was isolated

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to the area immediately surrounding the four tanks located at the property.

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That's the report we got back from a STDR and USP.

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As I mentioned though, TES continued, environmental service continued to monitor and remain

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on the scene in a supportive role in taking the lead and making sure that we do our due

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and collecting data that would help us give some advice or act in a certain way.

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Turning now to the water quality, the Huston Ditch is immediately to the north of the property

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and flows as tributary into the Ottawa River.

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During the height of the fire, solvent and oil mixed with firefighting one-off began flowing into the ditch.

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So to protect our waterways, contaminant booms were placed.

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Environmental services staff identified the ditch behind the facility.

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Identified the locations where the booms need to be put.

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should be placed and confirmed their proper deployment.

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The U.S. EPA contractor are the ones that deployed the containment

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drones at the three strategic locations that we determine and we

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mentioned that the U.S. EPA and that was right where the ditch passes under the

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I don't get familiar with the area.

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There's a rail road service road.

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That's what we installed at North East of the facility.

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One at the dead end of Westwood Avenue and near Scott Park.

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Now, there are two types of wounds deployed.

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Absorbent wounds.

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That absorbed, obviously from the name,

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and capture any material, and there are hard dunes which both were deployed, and hard dunes prevent the passing through of the material.

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So any product or origin visible would be absorbed or contained for future collection.

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Keeping in mind at the depth point we were functioning under emergency response and containing what we are.

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Additionally, once the U.S. EPA contract to receive approval to access the site from APF and the DFRD and Unified Command,

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and the person burned to contain the firewater runoff was placed directly behind the building as a temporary measure to prevent firewater runoff from continuing to enter into the hot stream ditch.

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We did perform water quality sampling in Hudson ditch downstream from the location at the first boom location

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We sampled for cyanide, total petroleum hydrocarbons, oil and grease,

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metals, total toxic organics, BTX, which we refer to as benzene, tollene, ethyl benzene and silene.

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The only thing we detected was mercury that was detected in the sample, which is, in most cases, is normal to a fire that's being extinguished, because it could be from fluorescent light bulbs to be from other things within the facility.

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It's also important to note that this area is an industrial, historical industrial area.

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So we do not have it based on that area.

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Therefore, it's likely the code.

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So it's sampling, we would expect possibly finding things, metals, maybe in there.

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I just want to make sure I mention that because of the location of the area.

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The current status, the multi-agency response has transitioned now from emergency response to

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containment and mitigation until long-term remediation of the area.

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U.S. EPA formally transitioned the lead role to Ohio EPA, and that is the Ohio EPA

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Northwest District Office, and that happened on August 28th, so Ohio EPA will continue

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to oversee the long-term soil waste and structural cleanup of this site.

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So again, OEPA is now overseeing the work done by the cleanup contractor, along with our support.

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We make sure that when work is taking place, that we visit the site, regularly to make sure that we are informed and we are in support of all of the cleanup efforts.

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The cleanup contractor has been performing air monitoring three times a day, so far.

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It's my understanding for I came here that might stop today, but that by the contract, but that would not stop us as environmental services continuing to do air monitoring daily and also checking on the rooms to make sure they need to be replaced, removed and the status of the water in the Hudson Bridge.

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The earthen berms and trenches remain in place and last we saw they are still in good condition.

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Product removal and tank purging are actively underway that tanks are being replaced.

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I'm sorry, cleaned and emptied for removal.

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And that effort is also taking place today.

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My understanding, the last four before I came here that two of them have been cleaned up before and two, they are in the process of cleaning and emptying and so far they recovered 200 gallons from those tanks.

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Also additional birth and birth has been placed around the tanks to ensure that while they're removing them nothing gets into the ditch as well.

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In closing, the development of environmental services continues and when I'm precise that continues daily air monitoring, reading at the home locations, and so far all of our readings have been no readings.

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We have not recorded anything. We will continue to check that. We're doing it and not just during very days. We do that on weekends and also we have in place.

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If we get a rainy event, we will send a responder, even if it isn't at night after hours,

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to make sure that they check the bulls and the air.

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We will continue to do this. We will provide our services to you to take care of how after you hear reading, roll, monitoring, including.

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That concludes our presentation. So happy to take any questions.

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Thank you so much.

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You might just want to mention that Brent industries, I just want to make sure those

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manufacturers, because they are operation, you do visit them for care, to make sure

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they are compliance with the air division and air pollution control regulation.

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And that's why we're looking at the number of August 7, and we find you a violation.

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They also, because of the operation,

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we are part of a free treatment, for basically they can have

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with anything or source system without testing it

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and sometimes we go out because they have to send you records to us

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and we do a really good unfortunately this year

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with a schedule to one but now we can't have the last one we did

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to like one fourth time and five

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And you mentioned that there's a tier 2 report as well, and they were compliant with turning

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in there, tier 2 report, and listed all of the chemicals that they had on site.

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That's why that's what we got back from how you can see when they did try to force.

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I don't really know that I didn't look at the entire report.

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What people are interested in is the list of these chemicals.

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Because we have to provide that for, you know, by demand of the U.S. EPA.

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But basically, the tier 2, what it indicated in the tier 2 of the tier 2 report, and that is self-work assets, which is contained in

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problems, conflicts, patterns.

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And, started solving.

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Sorry, it's solving the right piece.

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I guess, again, it's disciplines derived, clean and liquid, similar to mental

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experience that is commonly used in pace in her recovery.

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Just also the clarifying.

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One, you still don't have a full list of roster of the people in there, but may have a presence from there, and the truth.

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I do not, and they haven't arrived. I've seen them on our several times, and said he was going to get it to us, gave me a minute now, and I saw him receive it.

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I can't account for all the people that may have that inside.

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At this point, not a hundred percent. I mean, we haven't had any calls coming in for missing loved ones, but unfortunately, they have not provided the information.

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Thank you, very concerned that they're having fun with that.

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We were going to have a couple of regards.

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Thank you.

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And thank you for your presentation.

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Deputy Chief, thank you for your staff that came.

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And we're able to help.

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I can only imagine what that was like.

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I heard for many of the neighbors,

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but it was like, but I kind of imagined what.

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Our fire staff had seen and experienced in their heroes.

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for going in and helping and thank you for environmental services.

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As a district council, I see a very different perspective from you guys.

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And I think that I appreciate everything you've done this step in.

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And this has been a great report.

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But unfortunately, this is the most important thing that I've gotten.

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And that's really alarming to me when I have people calling and reaching out

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I'm trying to get answers.

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I think that there was a communication breakdown.

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I think you guys have all the answers,

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but the residents don't realize this.

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And I've been out five times now since the accident.

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And the residents just don't have all the answers.

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They've got in cards from the EPA saying,

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call if you have any questions.

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But I really think that it's our duty as a city

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and especially with the use of social media

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to put out a little report every day, like this is, I mean, this was so helpful that we are in.

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And we went from emergency to the contamination and mitigation. Next step is remediation. That would be so helpful so that people know what to do last night. They were cleaning and there was smells and there was smoke. And people, that stuff scares them because they don't all have this thing answers. There are so many amazing people in the community that have formed phone trees.

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And I have, I mean, we've walked and fired people, like you have people that are willing

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to stop up and support you, but you guys have to build that engine for us to support

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you.

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I fear can take over, right?

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And when you're a woken, so early in the morning by two explosions back to back, people

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are told me they ran out of their house, the sky is orange, like that's terrifying.

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And then, you know, there's an influx of people fighting the fire, being there.

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The police were great protecting things.

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The EPA was out there, but then it stopped.

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But there's still questions.

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And I really think it's our job as a city to step up and make sure that, you know,

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they know that we're testing one today, seven days a week, and after every rain event.

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That the the booms in the ditch are doing this and you're going to see this like I just

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As an educator it's so important for us to say this is what we've learned. This is where we are

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This is what we've learned. This is what you're going to see those three things. What's happened?

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What's currently happening and what's happening in the future. That means so much to people and if you can get that out to

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Me, to social media. There are so many people and they're in the audience and I see them. They will help us get that message out into the neighborhood

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but

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to have these horrible

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incidents happen and they don't they don't happen often

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That has to be part of our plan. That has to be part of our plan. We didn't forward

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Regardless of if it's

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Solfer burning in East Toledo, which happened on the same day,

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thank God it didn't get into the neighborhood,

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or an explosion in that bread industry.

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There needs to be a communication plan.

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And it would really be nice for the districts that are either touching it,

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or in it, for us to get the same reports daily,

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because I am more than willing to go above and beyond

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to get that information out for you,

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but I need to have that information first.

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So, with that, I really appreciate your report, but I will yield my time for other council members.

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Thank you.

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Thanks so much.

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And I feel like perhaps a comment about what I'm doing in communications from this point forward.

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I'll look like and what the residents can expect from the city.

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Yes.

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Thank you.

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I'll take that.

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I think we are exploring, you know, sort of,

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I think we can promise going forward to have

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that more regular update communication I can promise that I think we're we are trying to ask

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that the cleanup contractor be responsible in some way for that communication we think that

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rent industry should be responsible in some way for that. I don't know that we're going to be

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successful in that just yet but but we can commit to if they are not able to do it or can't come

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through on that we can commit to that.

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Thank you and later the current commitments to us I think

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shown that they might not be the most communicative reliable. Thank you. So I think it's important

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that we do. I do know that EPA has created a website with updates that are going forward

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and that wonder if there's a component where we can provide communication updates through there

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or something similar. Yes, and we have the link to that that we can share.

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I believe from the

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Thank you so much, Chair, and thank you so much for this presentation.

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I really appreciate it.

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And for all you did that day, I can't imagine going into a burning building and I always appreciate

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our men and women who do that.

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I did want to ask about Brent Industries.

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Have they been cooperative at all?

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I know we've kind of talked about they haven't been the best neighbor.

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Have they cooperated in the investigation?

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are they cooperating with the cleanup, how's that working?

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Yeah, I can speak about the cleanup.

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They have been very cooperative.

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The contractor has been on point.

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They're doing a really good job.

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They give us daily updates.

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Hopefully they do.

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In addition to us.

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Being there, observing, and especially when Ohio EPA is there, because they are responsible for the site in the cleanup. But as far as it, we can tell at this point, they hired a good company to do the cleanup and they are cooperating.

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Okay. I just can't speak on that, sir.

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Okay. Thank you. Also, I've seen a list of the chemicals that were in the building.

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do we have a cause, a definitive cause if we don't, when will we have that?

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Good afternoon, members of Council and the public.

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Assistant Chief John Kaminski, after checking in with the Arson Investigative Team today,

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they have told me that working in conjunction with the ATF in this investigation,

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that they'll continue to go through what they described as copious volumes of evidence,

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that there are 15 through still, that includes video, electronic, and of course, interviews.

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There is no timeline when they're going to have the final results in the investigation.

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Obviously, I think it would service all of the investigation to be thorough and correct.

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It has not been told to me that Brad industry has been uncooperative with that investigation.

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But we do not have a timeline when they'll have a definitive answer as to the cause.

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Okay. Thank you.

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Yeah, appreciate it.

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That's all I have.

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Thank you.

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Absolutely.

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Consumant surrounds you.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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First of all, I'd like to express my deep appreciation to our first responders, including

440
00:41:38,610 --> 00:41:42,790
all of our city employees that responded in the state and federal people.

441
00:41:43,150 --> 00:41:46,710
Because it was a truly a tragedy that happened.

442
00:41:47,590 --> 00:41:54,690
And obviously we were very touched by the loss of life and injuries that may have occurred

443
00:41:54,690 --> 00:41:55,770
very tragic.

444
00:41:56,510 --> 00:42:04,090
My question is was the call made about 445 in the morning or was that before to the fire

445
00:42:04,890 --> 00:42:06,470
at 4.50, okay?

446
00:42:07,450 --> 00:42:13,550
And then do you have a deputy chief, do you have any idea what time the deceased, the two deceased

447
00:42:13,550 --> 00:42:14,730
persons were discovered?

448
00:42:14,730 --> 00:42:15,810
And

449
00:42:27,490 --> 00:42:33,210
I guess I'm just wondering if a contractor commissioner has been hired and is working

450
00:42:34,110 --> 00:42:39,310
that, aren't they going to interfere with the investigation in terms of being able to look

451
00:42:39,310 --> 00:42:42,990
at various materials at the site if they're cleaning up everything?

452
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:53,540
The investigation is ongoing, but I mean we also have a contractor that's they're cleaning

453
00:42:53,540 --> 00:42:54,480
up the site.

454
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:59,480
So I guess I'm wondering if there's going to be a very difficult

455
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,380
to get further evidence if it's missing.

456
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:08,120
I don't know, can fire speak to, or maybe,

457
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,440
if this is a chief commensky, to what I require.

458
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,120
Yep, I guess good evening as I was in correct

459
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:14,960
earlier, sir, good afternoon.

460
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,860
Good evening again, John commensky, assistant chief.

461
00:43:18,420 --> 00:43:19,640
From where we are with the investigation,

462
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,180
as they completed their onsite investigation, sir,

463
00:43:22,180 --> 00:43:27,080
is that they believe that both RFIU and the HIF have completed their onsite

464
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:31,040
investigation and collected every evidence that they need to, for their

465
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,100
investigation. Okay. So they turned it over to the property owner. And when they

466
00:43:34,100 --> 00:43:37,720
do that, that means they have gathered everything that they think to make the

467
00:43:37,720 --> 00:43:41,060
determination if that answers your question. You understand my concern. Of course,

468
00:43:41,540 --> 00:43:46,600
probably our contractors are cleaning up and if there was any reason that they

469
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,040
would still think that they needed to gather things, we would not have turned it back

470
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,180
over to the property owner, we'd still be on sites here.

471
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,920
Okay, and OSHA also has been involved in my correct.

472
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:55,960
That is to my understanding.

473
00:43:56,540 --> 00:43:57,860
Okay, thank you, thank you all.

474
00:43:58,180 --> 00:44:00,420
Thank you, Mr. Chair, absolutely.

475
00:44:01,380 --> 00:44:02,300
Councilwoman McPherson.

476
00:44:04,020 --> 00:44:04,600
Thank you,

477
00:44:07,730 --> 00:44:10,870
thank you for the work that you have done thus far

478
00:44:10,870 --> 00:44:12,450
in this tragedy.

479
00:44:13,070 --> 00:44:16,810
Thank you to lead a fire in police and everyone

480
00:44:16,810 --> 00:44:20,990
that has worked so diligently in this.

481
00:44:20,990 --> 00:44:32,850
My concern to along with Council Member Gattis is the dissemination of information to the citizens.

482
00:44:34,790 --> 00:44:41,050
That has to be our concern because we serve the citizens of Toledo.

483
00:44:42,030 --> 00:44:51,910
And speaking with the few that I spoke with and at our press conference is the not knowing and living in that area.

484
00:44:51,910 --> 00:44:59,950
And then it was right there close to school starting and all of that and I I always say

485
00:45:01,710 --> 00:45:12,950
One of our weakest links is communicating to the citizens of Toledo. What's really going on? And when fear is involved,

486
00:45:15,150 --> 00:45:25,070
it doubles. Because they don't know. They're concerned on whether or not they should continue living there.

487
00:45:25,070 --> 00:45:33,090
their health issues, their children's safety, there were some that had swimming pools and

488
00:45:33,090 --> 00:45:43,910
the yards, all of this could have been, I think, a little easier to deal with a administration

489
00:45:43,910 --> 00:45:57,280
been forthcoming with conversations to that community, to say, Ohio EPA is doing this.

490
00:45:57,940 --> 00:46:06,540
We have done this, we are continuing to do this, just what you just told us, every step

491
00:46:06,540 --> 00:46:09,780
of the way, after that explosion,

492
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,980
I would have made the lives of those people that are living

493
00:46:14,980 --> 00:46:17,640
in that community a whole lot easier.

494
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,980
When we went to, we had depressed conference.

495
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:25,200
No, we didn't have answers, but we were there saying,

496
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,340
we support you, and we want to get the answers.

497
00:46:28,700 --> 00:46:29,700
What are the questions?

498
00:46:30,460 --> 00:46:32,260
And we are here for you.

499
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,460
And that's the missing piece when it comes

500
00:46:36,860 --> 00:46:39,940
to connecting the dots with the administration.

501
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,720
That's my biggest problem.

502
00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:53,300
And that's a concern for the citizens, because we should know so that we can share it with them.

503
00:46:55,430 --> 00:46:58,190
Or administration could have went on and talked to the citizens.

504
00:47:00,380 --> 00:47:01,020
Several times.

505
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:08,240
Or we could have had a community meeting over in that area at Burrell School to say,

506
00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:15,880
This is where we are. This is what's happening. This is what we're doing. We want to make sure that you are safe.

507
00:47:16,420 --> 00:47:22,440
We are concerned and we're going to keep you abreast. We've got to do better.

508
00:47:24,300 --> 00:47:26,140
And this is laid in the game.

509
00:47:26,140 --> 00:47:31,260
As far as I'm concerned, I appreciate you having the meeting,

510
00:47:31,780 --> 00:47:32,660
Councilmen, co-mise.

511
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,560
This is late in the game for our citizens,

512
00:47:37,100 --> 00:47:41,280
because they've been dealing with this every single day since that explosion.

513
00:47:42,940 --> 00:47:46,740
Wondering, do I stay, do I leave?

514
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:48,960
How are my children doing?

515
00:47:49,700 --> 00:47:53,120
The kids over there at Burl School, is the air safe?

516
00:47:53,820 --> 00:48:01,880
When we were at the press conference of a constituency, they were doing something with the water.

517
00:48:02,740 --> 00:48:05,580
Do you all know what they were doing? Is the water safe?

518
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,520
These are answers that we should have been able to give them,

519
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,280
because administration should have given it to us,

520
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,040
and we should have been communicating with our citizens.

521
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,460
We had two employees to lose their life,

522
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,440
And we're not talking about this to our citizens.

523
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,060
Are we keeping it on the download?

524
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:29,000
No.

525
00:48:31,530 --> 00:48:36,910
When we have a tragedy in our city, everybody is affected by it.

526
00:48:37,170 --> 00:48:41,750
Not just those in that neighborhood, but every citizen in the city or Toledo.

527
00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:44,490
Because it could happen in another place.

528
00:48:45,150 --> 00:48:46,610
What are we doing to be proactive?

529
00:48:46,610 --> 00:48:51,170
What is the game plan and we need to tell our citizens?

530
00:48:52,990 --> 00:48:54,610
We've got to do better.

531
00:48:55,650 --> 00:48:56,390
I'm done.

532
00:48:56,470 --> 00:48:58,910
Thank you so very much.

533
00:48:59,090 --> 00:48:59,530
Fire department.

534
00:48:59,670 --> 00:49:01,130
Thank you for your report.

535
00:49:01,910 --> 00:49:05,310
Thank you for what you do for us each and every day.

536
00:49:05,530 --> 00:49:08,990
And thank you for coming and sharing with us on today.

537
00:49:09,870 --> 00:49:12,430
I want you to know I do appreciate that.

538
00:49:12,450 --> 00:49:13,230
I really do.

539
00:49:13,230 --> 00:49:20,850
But I'm just feeling it for my constituents because we're just now having a conversation about

540
00:49:20,850 --> 00:49:25,550
an explosion that has happened what two weeks ago, three weeks ago,

541
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:28,640
and we're just having

542
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:36,540
a conversation about it to let the citizens of Toledo know what we're doing, that's unacceptable.

543
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,640
Mr. Chair, may I respond?

544
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,560
Thank you, Councilwoman.

545
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:47,500
I hear what you're saying.

546
00:49:47,980 --> 00:49:50,880
I think that the ongoing communication needs to be better.

547
00:49:51,300 --> 00:49:53,960
We did communicate pretty extensively in the beginning.

548
00:49:55,660 --> 00:49:59,280
So, I agree that the ongoing communication needs to be better and we'll fix that.

549
00:49:59,360 --> 00:49:59,960
But I just want to make-

550
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:09,840
We did do a lot of communication in the early aftermath of the incident. So I just wanted to mention that. We'll do better going forward.

551
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,760
Okay, thank you. That's woman Jones.

552
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:26,520
Thank you chair. First just echoing the remarks from my colleagues as far as just the hard work, the response just taking care of this situation.

553
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:34,060
And however it had happened because also we have to think about there were other incidences,

554
00:50:34,340 --> 00:50:36,540
like the Army source fire, the tanker on the east side.

555
00:50:36,700 --> 00:50:42,520
So there was a lot of stuff going on at that time, which prompts my question as far as our

556
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:50,820
disaster response when it comes to residents who are dealing with the after effects.

557
00:50:51,240 --> 00:50:55,280
So considering what the environmental services has done as far as air monitoring, water,

558
00:50:55,280 --> 00:51:02,980
monitoring. Is there a system in place to where residents can call and report in any health concerns?

559
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:08,580
I'm actually, we should probably look into the health department, you know, just to see how their response

560
00:51:08,580 --> 00:51:15,880
or how they would fit in this because symptoms may be immediate, immediate, but later on developing,

561
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:21,840
especially as things are being cleaned up, they could arise again. So is there some sort of

562
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:30,000
call-in number or reporting, tracking that we're doing for residents around these disaster areas,

563
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:34,620
particularly since we're talking about brain industries, what are we doing with those residents there?

564
00:51:36,900 --> 00:51:41,620
Thank you. I would say, you know, we always have engaged to lead out to take in information.

565
00:51:41,820 --> 00:51:47,180
I don't know that we necessarily have a formal category for something like this.

566
00:51:47,180 --> 00:51:58,100
I would love for either assistant chief or deputy chief to address, like, sort of our, our disaster planning and efforts that we go through to be prepared for these types of situations.

567
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,100
I think that was kind of an a question to know.

568
00:52:03,910 --> 00:52:08,810
So these are probably I once in a career type incident.

569
00:52:11,230 --> 00:52:17,490
The one thing that we do as a department along with a lot of the agencies that were actually involved in this scene,

570
00:52:17,490 --> 00:52:22,570
We do tabletop exercises with both skill exercises and we get prepared.

571
00:52:24,550 --> 00:52:28,310
So they always tell you you get a prepare for the preparation for eight hours on your own.

572
00:52:28,550 --> 00:52:32,250
We're able to actually get a lot of the stuff done within four hours half of that.

573
00:52:32,410 --> 00:52:37,010
And still maintain and still provide for the citizens, along with having a hundred firefighters

574
00:52:37,010 --> 00:52:39,090
and backfilling with other departments.

575
00:52:40,150 --> 00:52:44,850
And then on top of that we also had an additional hazmat scene over on the inside.

576
00:52:44,850 --> 00:52:52,210
So, we had two has magazines going out one time, it shows the might of their team, but it

577
00:52:52,210 --> 00:52:57,250
also shows that our resources are stretched, but we do have other access or other agencies

578
00:52:57,250 --> 00:53:01,850
that we can call in, and we have mutual aid agreements with that if we need to pull in

579
00:53:01,850 --> 00:53:02,570
those we can.

580
00:53:02,950 --> 00:53:11,170
We were running short, unmembers, they were, let alone they had that fire, they had the hazmat

581
00:53:11,170 --> 00:53:15,570
run, there's a fire on Palmer, and then there's another fire at St.

582
00:53:15,910 --> 00:53:20,170
Anthony's, the same day, and there was a lot of the same crew, so they put it out there

583
00:53:20,170 --> 00:53:20,690
that day.

584
00:53:21,190 --> 00:53:23,490
They worked extremely hard all of them in the women.

585
00:53:25,890 --> 00:53:35,890
So that's why we emphasized the attending these exercises, all these parties come together, that's

586
00:53:35,890 --> 00:53:41,150
a practice, and then it was a real world, so a lot of us had seen where familiar faces,

587
00:53:44,070 --> 00:53:47,110
As we're saying, I'm already calling on the phone.

588
00:53:47,130 --> 00:53:51,070
I'm calling Ohio EPA, US EPA, on the phone can we have that personal contact.

589
00:53:51,350 --> 00:53:57,130
Tell them what exactly we need to help us out because our resources are strapped.

590
00:53:57,290 --> 00:54:01,210
There's no way we can possibly do the air monitoring, what a little quite the fire,

591
00:54:01,410 --> 00:54:04,010
and most importantly locate missing civilians.

592
00:54:05,450 --> 00:54:09,450
That's what we do preparation-wise, and we'll continue to practice,

593
00:54:09,450 --> 00:54:12,930
and stay involved in those community events?

594
00:54:14,130 --> 00:54:22,290
So on the day that this happened, when it came to those who may have been affected by the

595
00:54:22,290 --> 00:54:27,550
smoke chemicals and things of that nature, do you keep a list of those who were going to

596
00:54:27,550 --> 00:54:35,050
the hospitals if there were hospitalizations or the surrounding residences around that property?

597
00:54:35,050 --> 00:54:40,510
do we have contact information because basically what I'm trying to say is when disasters like

598
00:54:40,510 --> 00:54:47,950
this happen and there's chemicals contamination symptoms don't show up immediate. So further

599
00:54:47,950 --> 00:54:52,850
down the line we may have some issues with asthma, may have some issues with just other health

600
00:54:52,850 --> 00:54:57,570
issues. So is there a way for people to reach out to either the city, the health department,

601
00:54:57,570 --> 00:54:59,770
fire department and environmental services.

602
00:55:00,020 --> 00:55:29,120
When it comes to their health, just the tracking aspect of it, because we want to make sure that if somebody does get sick, because of this, I don't know if there are some legalities to it or anything of that nature, but this is something that happens, it's just, we just don't see it immediately, but probably down the line. So kind of like how we did during the pandemic, if you got contact tracing. So in this same essence, do we have that for disasters such as this?

603
00:55:30,020 --> 00:55:35,560
The first little fire we do our own exposure forms for our members, that we keep track of who

604
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:41,680
was involved to what degree, what they call personal protective equipment they were wearing,

605
00:55:42,340 --> 00:55:46,740
our biggest thing was to stay out of any of the water because we weren't 100% sure exactly.

606
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:52,060
Even though we had the Tier 2's, what chemicals in there, those are reporting chemicals.

607
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:57,180
They could have other chemicals in there that are non-reportable.

608
00:55:57,180 --> 00:56:02,180
So that will be, that's why they're doing different sampling to find other things out.

609
00:56:03,700 --> 00:56:05,580
It's just like the overall trucks.

610
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,980
They'll have a sheet that will tell you exactly what chemicals they have.

611
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:16,340
But they can have a bunch of them in a smaller quantity that will make something pretty dangerous.

612
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:24,500
So that's why we always try and get all the data that we can from the owners and the property and the truck drivers are.

613
00:56:24,500 --> 00:56:30,620
And so like on Brent, they had their own safety plan, along we had our Tier 2s, they were

614
00:56:30,620 --> 00:56:31,180
not matching.

615
00:56:32,220 --> 00:56:38,580
So then we had, that's why I had all the environmental agencies they could handle that portion

616
00:56:38,580 --> 00:56:42,140
of it until they could figure out exactly what it was, and the Tier 2 was correct.

617
00:56:42,700 --> 00:56:48,180
It was just an old manual that didn't have the updates, but the Tier 2 that came from

618
00:56:48,180 --> 00:56:49,840
the LAPC was correct.

619
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:58,600
And I believe U.S. EPA is not here, but they said there was a health breach.

620
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:00,880
Somebody could reach out for a health good name.

621
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:05,620
I couldn't remember what, but they have a link right now, don't they?

622
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:10,680
For the people who want to go on to their website and report their cases.

623
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,500
So residents are to go to the EPA website.

624
00:57:15,140 --> 00:57:22,700
It was a U.S. EPA, so it went to little environmental high, the U.S. EPA was running it.

625
00:57:22,700 --> 00:57:24,600
It went into the back down, Ohio has it right now.

626
00:57:24,820 --> 00:57:28,920
So, Ohio EPA is kind of the lead along with the little environmental level.

627
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,740
Keep monitoring it and handling it and watching it clean up.

628
00:57:32,860 --> 00:57:38,880
We can confirm that to make certain that that's clear how that would happen.

629
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:53,120
Because I think that's what's missing because I'm recalling what you say is no formalized process so people can't call in per se and describe their symptoms or anything like that.

630
00:57:53,520 --> 00:58:02,620
So I think that it's definitely important to as far as the city side is concerned to really understand that we need a kind of like a formalized process.

631
00:58:02,620 --> 00:58:04,600
I know the fire department has it and pretty sure

632
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,740
police has that environmental services.

633
00:58:07,020 --> 00:58:10,160
You already have that, but as far as us as the city,

634
00:58:10,420 --> 00:58:12,240
we need to have some sort of disaster planning,

635
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:14,220
checklist, something like that.

636
00:58:14,580 --> 00:58:16,280
Because it was unusual time.

637
00:58:16,380 --> 00:58:18,000
It was a lot of stuff happening environmentally.

638
00:58:19,620 --> 00:58:22,620
And I wouldn't say that it won't happen again,

639
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,280
but at least we can be proactive when it comes to things

640
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,800
like that, because again, it was within a neighborhood

641
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:35,700
and what, you know, just what Councilwoman McPherson was saying, that is contaminating.

642
00:58:36,020 --> 00:58:39,820
Especially with the air, I know that you had the measurements, but things can travel.

643
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:45,140
We just had rain, we had wind, and, you know, the stuff can happen later on.

644
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:50,580
So I think that we have to have some sort of system or process to where residents can call in

645
00:58:50,580 --> 00:58:55,460
to talk about or just describe their symptoms, and then they can,

646
00:58:58,780 --> 00:58:58,780
you know,

647
00:58:58,780 --> 00:59:04,700
to certain hospitals because this will have to go into their medical record as a way to

648
00:59:04,700 --> 00:59:09,620
kind of document on our side as well as document just their history when it comes to their

649
00:59:09,620 --> 00:59:14,420
interaction with Brent Industries at this point because this was pretty big and considering the

650
00:59:14,420 --> 00:59:20,580
nature of the business this is something that we have to kind of get ahead of because I don't

651
00:59:20,580 --> 00:59:25,500
even know how many of these types of businesses we have in the city that will be something that

652
00:59:25,500 --> 00:59:32,500
need to look into and probably just similar industries because, again, we have agent infrastructure.

653
00:59:33,020 --> 00:59:37,140
I'm not sure how the maintenance is, I know environmental services are very good with keeping

654
00:59:37,140 --> 00:59:44,500
up and checking, just making sure they are in compliance, but as far as our sort of due diligence

655
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:46,220
that should be set up.

656
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:51,200
So I really want to see how the health department can play in all of this.

657
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:59,380
Just as some sort of tracing, just to ensure that health around that those areas aren't getting worse, per se.

658
01:00:00,620 --> 01:00:07,540
We can follow up with Council on that particular item. We have a couple of conversations. Thank you.

659
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:16,020
Thank you. Thank you. I just want to thank Councilman, Dr. Jones for that.

660
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:24,220
And I know I've said this on the record, but there was a, because of the explosion that were pieces of the plant in people's yards.

661
01:00:24,220 --> 01:00:26,880
There was a layer of suffering, everything.

662
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:35,660
When I spoke to residents, they complained about asthma attacks, respiratory issues, burning

663
01:00:35,660 --> 01:00:42,100
sinuses, headaches, swollen eyes, and you could taste the chemicals in the air.

664
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:43,100
I was out there.

665
01:00:43,100 --> 01:00:46,960
It left a sweet taste in your mouth.

666
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,960
While it might be safe, there was definitely some kind of residue.

667
01:00:51,960 --> 01:01:01,880
and I appreciate Dr. Jones focus on the health department. By way of referral, I see

668
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:11,680
that can we get sent the disaster planning that you guys do and then any and all communication

669
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:15,340
records around this disaster to the community.

670
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,640
And then I list of all the chemicals if we

671
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,720
have that that would be really helpful for me.

672
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:26,040
Thank you so much.

673
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:26,900
Thank you, Chair.

674
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:33,520
Let's see no further questions from Councilmember.

675
01:01:33,540 --> 01:01:36,200
So I'm going to open it to public comment.

676
01:01:37,380 --> 01:01:40,280
I only have four signed up so far.

677
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,100
There is still a sheet out if you are interested

678
01:01:44,100 --> 01:01:47,040
and would like to address the committee you may,

679
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:47,760
please sign up.

680
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,860
But we will start with Chris Ramstone.

681
01:02:00,180 --> 01:02:02,360
If you could just get one name and your address

682
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:02,980
Oh, the record.

683
01:02:03,700 --> 01:02:10,380
Chris Ramso, 516, Shade Street, obviously Toledo, and I just want to add my name to the list

684
01:02:10,380 --> 01:02:13,900
of the condolences of the two people that perished.

685
01:02:14,700 --> 01:02:18,020
I think about them every night before I go to bed, it haunts me.

686
01:02:18,220 --> 01:02:23,960
I've not seen any pictures of Mr. Garcia peruz, but that picture of Ms. Marianne, I don't

687
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:24,800
think I'll ever forget it.

688
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:30,780
I cannot imagine any worse way to pass away, so I want to put that out there and I think

689
01:02:30,780 --> 01:02:34,140
also something needs to be said about the first responders. They didn't even question

690
01:02:34,140 --> 01:02:37,720
that they just went and it could have been a heck of a lot worse.

691
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:38,480
Had they not

692
01:02:40,590 --> 01:02:44,650
do a lot of actions, they do diligence, but what they did. So as a resident,

693
01:02:44,790 --> 01:02:50,450
I'm forever grateful to all of you for doing that. So I guess one thing I would say is

694
01:02:50,450 --> 01:02:54,870
for industries does not sound like based on their past history on X. They're being

695
01:02:54,870 --> 01:02:59,430
100% transparent. If they're not paying their taxes and they're water bill, how can we rely

696
01:02:59,430 --> 01:03:06,850
on them to keep records of the chemicals that they had on site, you know, that I think there

697
01:03:06,850 --> 01:03:07,550
was two chemicals.

698
01:03:07,830 --> 01:03:12,830
I mean, I've got at least three or four in my laundry area in the basin and they only

699
01:03:12,830 --> 01:03:15,290
had two and they're processing toxic laundry.

700
01:03:15,590 --> 01:03:16,570
I find that hard to believe.

701
01:03:17,670 --> 01:03:21,510
So I also feel that the owner should be out in prison.

702
01:03:21,570 --> 01:03:24,330
He should be facing all of us, the community.

703
01:03:26,350 --> 01:03:33,150
So, I will tell you the other thing too is I don't think it's a coincidence that folks in the area are getting sick.

704
01:03:34,230 --> 01:03:43,030
I'm as healthy as can be. I'm very fortunate for excellent genes and I'll tell you I have not been feeling well since two weeks ago.

705
01:03:43,390 --> 01:03:46,430
That one says when I start having symptoms and I don't think it's a coincidence.

706
01:03:46,430 --> 01:03:51,250
And now while my symptoms are minor and I can proceed forth my day-to-day activities,

707
01:03:52,070 --> 01:03:53,430
it's a new sense.

708
01:03:53,770 --> 01:03:57,190
I know one family they had to leave their house last night because the fire reeknited.

709
01:03:58,210 --> 01:03:59,130
They can't stay there.

710
01:03:59,750 --> 01:04:02,830
My cousins who live two walks away, they're really sick.

711
01:04:04,310 --> 01:04:10,430
So I think it was Dr. Jones or Dr. Williams, brought up a really good point about

712
01:04:11,010 --> 01:04:18,030
involving the health and right thing that would be really beneficial, but again I want to thank

713
01:04:18,030 --> 01:04:24,110
you all for hosting this and for being so connected with us, Councilwoman Gattas and

714
01:04:24,110 --> 01:04:29,570
Colmerized for being really good conversations and Councilwoman McPherson, you brought up

715
01:04:29,570 --> 01:04:30,150
some excellent points.

716
01:04:30,150 --> 01:04:34,210
In fact, all the points that I had written down, each one of you, my check them all off

717
01:04:34,210 --> 01:04:38,850
my list, so I just want to reinforce my support of those, so thank you so much.

718
01:04:38,850 --> 01:04:41,370
So thank you so much for your testimony.

719
01:04:43,170 --> 01:04:45,330
Next I have Sherry Straub.

720
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,060
I need my name is Sherry Straub.

721
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:59,960
I resided 1825 Rainer Drive to Little High.

722
01:05:00,620 --> 01:05:08,000
I just wanted to thank you all for hosting this community conversation today and bringing everybody

723
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:16,660
and making us aware. It was this had tragedy. And at the loss of life and everything else that is going on,

724
01:05:17,940 --> 01:05:28,700
the people of our community and human answers, we weren't getting them. And so, when you don't get them, you look from yourself, we hired independent

725
01:05:28,700 --> 01:05:36,720
testers because we don't think we're getting the truth. We want answers and we wanted them

726
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:44,840
two weeks ago, not standing here today. I brought in the big dogs with me. I have a couple

727
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:51,180
teenage kids because that's how concerned they were. These are the kids that play in this neighborhood.

728
01:05:51,940 --> 01:05:58,280
These are the kids that are going to be in your seat someday. So just remember that and I

729
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:04,820
going, not to go on about myself, because this isn't about me. I don't live in that community.

730
01:06:05,460 --> 01:06:10,660
But I'm an organizer here with the people of that community, and I won't back down.

731
01:06:11,300 --> 01:06:17,140
But I do speak for Sarah Lacker, and I'd like to read what she had wrote, because these meetings

732
01:06:17,140 --> 01:06:21,400
are set up to where people can't come.

733
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:30,180
Our community isn't able to be here, so with that said, if you could just give me a few moments.

734
01:06:31,580 --> 01:06:37,840
It says, my name is Sarah Locker, and unfortunately I could not physically be present today for this meeting.

735
01:06:38,340 --> 01:06:44,140
I come to you straight from my heart on behalf of my family and my fellow neighbors.

736
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:48,380
August 18th was supposed to be a day like any other day.

737
01:06:48,380 --> 01:06:54,980
Wake up, have coffee with my husband on the front porch, and wave at the neighbors as they walk their dogs.

738
01:06:55,540 --> 01:06:59,600
What other plants, and greet our children, as we do every single morning.

739
01:07:00,260 --> 01:07:01,820
We are a family of routine.

740
01:07:02,380 --> 01:07:05,280
Little did we know that morning would be far from routine.

741
01:07:05,860 --> 01:07:08,680
I got home from work at 12.15 a.m.

742
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:12,960
That morning, and like a lot of people, she couldn't go to bed right away.

743
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:16,760
She laid in bed and watched some TV until she started to get and sleep.

744
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:21,040
before the clock set up with 4.15 a.m.

745
01:07:21,580 --> 01:07:23,780
She reached for the remote, shut the TV off,

746
01:07:23,940 --> 01:07:26,600
and dosed off only to be a welcome 30 minutes later

747
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:30,260
by what she thought was someone hitting a transformer.

748
01:07:31,420 --> 01:07:33,100
She started to go back to sleep,

749
01:07:33,540 --> 01:07:36,720
and then even a louder boom shook their entire home.

750
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,620
Caused her husband to leap out of bed in a state of panic,

751
01:07:40,940 --> 01:07:43,360
running out the front door to investigate

752
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:50,620
what the madness was, also terrified and ripped them from their sleep.

753
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:53,340
I don't know if you guys seen the videos online,

754
01:07:53,820 --> 01:07:56,340
but it also scared the heck out of their cats.

755
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:03,020
Following hours will forever be burned to under our memories,

756
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:07,520
flames of smoke, barreling through the sky and the air.

757
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:12,460
People running from all directions, fire trucks, ambulance, police.

758
01:08:12,460 --> 01:08:19,560
It was almost like a scene from a movie we had a lady pull into our driveway that was supposed

759
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:26,540
to be reporting to work for her 5 a.m. shift at Bren industry. She was horrified. Family members

760
01:08:26,540 --> 01:08:31,640
of those inside scrambling everywhere. Neighbors and their pajamas flocking to see what

761
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:37,620
was happening. Then the smells of chemicals burning the air. The smoke so thick there was

762
01:08:37,620 --> 01:08:41,020
little to know visibility at all,

763
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:43,220
ass dropping from the sky like snow.

764
01:08:43,660 --> 01:08:46,100
As the days go on, we all start to ponder,

765
01:08:46,580 --> 01:08:48,020
what caused this to happen.

766
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:51,940
The scent of chemicals burning in our noses,

767
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:54,700
cause headaches among other symptoms,

768
01:08:55,180 --> 01:08:57,320
residents till this day, experience.

769
01:08:58,260 --> 01:08:59,960
Two people lost their lives that day,

770
01:09:00,420 --> 01:09:02,840
and the community that surrounds bread industries

771
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:05,400
are suffering the loss as well.

772
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:12,320
We, as regents live with the smell of what we've been told, isn't toxic, toxic, and the

773
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:16,660
headaches, sore throats, stomach cramping, etc, continue.

774
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:23,440
You can't tell me that a chemical plant explodes and there's no toxins in the air or the soil

775
01:09:23,440 --> 01:09:24,160
of the water.

776
01:09:24,780 --> 01:09:31,100
People that don't live there where we live are seeing what we saw can tell me or my neighbors

777
01:09:31,100 --> 01:09:32,340
that it's safe.

778
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,540
Respectfully, I don't believe that one bit.

779
01:09:36,220 --> 01:09:38,560
I personally have experienced several symptoms

780
01:09:39,220 --> 01:09:41,680
that are the very same as my neighbors.

781
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:43,580
I have spoke to.

782
01:09:43,820 --> 01:09:46,080
My kids are feeling them as well.

783
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:48,560
September 1st, while at work,

784
01:09:48,700 --> 01:09:50,420
I got a text from my husband saying,

785
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,180
there was smoke coming from the same stack

786
01:09:53,180 --> 01:09:54,760
at Brent Industries again.

787
01:09:55,260 --> 01:09:58,000
And the smell was much worse than yet before.

788
01:09:58,000 --> 01:09:59,960
yet again we're still being told.

789
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:06,820
There's no dark sins. And again, I don't believe that. None of the people here today do.

790
01:10:11,310 --> 01:10:33,570
Today, my 16-year-old son, Evan and his friend Damian, are standing with me to represent their family, because her husband and she could not be here in person. They wanted to be present to show the council members that his generation truly cares about what's happening, five doors down from where they live.

791
01:10:33,570 --> 01:10:37,970
to show you all that he wants answers as well too.

792
01:10:40,180 --> 01:10:45,060
We want justice for those of us who continue to see ground zero sight.

793
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:50,280
Small those chemicals and deal with the headaches, the sore throats, the stomach cramps.

794
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:56,060
To show everyone that because of this we had to leave our safe place we call home.

795
01:10:56,220 --> 01:11:04,400
Just stay in a hotel for the night because we were worried about going home and having to deal with it over and over.

796
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:12,740
We got no help so no answers just left in the dark shoved under a rug if you will.

797
01:11:13,340 --> 01:11:18,880
What it is that the city plans to do is the city going to relocate those of us close

798
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:25,460
to Bren Industries temporarily until it's cleaned up to be honest I doubt it because

799
01:11:25,460 --> 01:11:32,980
like so many other issues the city faces we feel it will get forgotten after a while and

800
01:11:32,980 --> 01:11:39,160
residents will be forced to just deal with it. On behalf of my family, we continue to pray

801
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:44,920
for the families who lost the loved ones and we continue to fight for what we feel is right

802
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:51,100
and respectfully, this isn't right. She thanks you for taking the time to listen.

803
01:11:53,680 --> 01:12:00,460
But Dr. Jones, it made a point and I think what you're looking for is an ICD-10 form

804
01:12:00,460 --> 01:12:05,840
from the health department because they can document that at the hospital.

805
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:12,720
I know that when I was working on the cyanobacteria, they didn't have that at the time.

806
01:12:13,060 --> 01:12:17,640
So it was something that we helped the health department implement and create.

807
01:12:18,460 --> 01:12:21,340
Keeping data of everybody that has been sick.

808
01:12:21,700 --> 01:12:28,020
It is important because what happens today, it may not be just today.

809
01:12:28,020 --> 01:12:33,840
like this gentleman from the EPA said, or the fire chief, you know, what is in the air?

810
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:41,640
What was in that plume, just because it wasn't in your area, that plume went over your house.

811
01:12:42,380 --> 01:12:52,500
My nephew works for DOT and was standing on I280 in the turnpike and seen the plume go over

812
01:12:52,500 --> 01:13:00,720
of him. So you can't tell me that that stayed in that backyard. And that's all. You guys

813
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:04,360
have a nice day. Thank you for taking the time to listen to me.

814
01:13:04,900 --> 01:13:08,020
Thank you, I'm next I have Sue Terrell.

815
01:13:17,250 --> 01:13:24,390
My name is Sue Terrell. I live at 1844 Lindbrook, but I had a home at 5.5.1. That, a couple

816
01:13:24,390 --> 01:13:30,830
blocks away for several years, or my kids went to school in that area. I went to the press

817
01:13:30,830 --> 01:13:40,370
conference because I was very concerned about city council really meeting with its citizens in person and really knowing issues that their citizens are facing.

818
01:13:41,250 --> 01:13:51,250
So it was really important to me that as it's been, I think, exemplified by a previous speaker that this meeting should be held over in the area,

819
01:13:51,250 --> 01:13:58,350
school or whatever rather than here. The person that testified with the letter from, you know,

820
01:13:58,350 --> 01:14:03,970
someone who couldn't make it, how many other people couldn't make it. Or just think,

821
01:14:04,110 --> 01:14:09,830
when you say, make it, you know, driving here, you have to, you know, having access to

822
01:14:09,830 --> 01:14:14,910
getting to the building, paying for parking, coming down to city council before council members.

823
01:14:15,330 --> 01:14:20,690
I think there should have been some kind of emergency vehicle in the neighborhood parked in the

824
01:14:20,690 --> 01:14:25,830
questions from the neighbors, you know, for a period of time, just park there, so that people

825
01:14:25,830 --> 01:14:32,550
were getting information right away. And I've brought this subject up before, in many cases,

826
01:14:32,890 --> 01:14:38,270
before city council, I think there should be satellite offices, Cindy council in the districts.

827
01:14:38,770 --> 01:14:44,070
There has to be a closer relationship with city council with its members, not necessarily

828
01:14:44,070 --> 01:14:50,630
through some of these organizations that supposedly represent us. And I also want to point

829
01:14:50,630 --> 01:14:55,730
that I noticed that at what's the, who is the official contractor, the name was

830
01:14:55,730 --> 01:14:59,590
in state it? Anyway, I'll put that out there, the name was in state it.

831
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,860
In any event, I recognized too that they set out the measurement was done within a mile. My God, are we testing a plume or wherever, you know, how far did it actually go and have we tested the soil, the pools, the plants, the, you know, and the care of the animals. So, has that been tested? I don't know. I haven't heard that related. So, I think the idea of residue is a very important issue.

832
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:34,480
and I don't know if it was explored, but I certainly think it should have been.

833
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:40,520
And just so that you know, after I attended your press conference, I made signs for the

834
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:46,220
neighborhood, I placed on Facebook, information about it, I announced it at the Universal

835
01:15:46,220 --> 01:15:54,240
Unitary at Church, so they could announce it over their media TV program, so you know, the

836
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:54,960
work got out.

837
01:15:55,220 --> 01:15:59,240
But I'm very concerned how the word really does get out in this stage.

838
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:02,820
There has to be a better way of communicating with the public.

839
01:16:03,100 --> 01:16:04,240
Thank you.

840
01:16:05,380 --> 01:16:05,720
Thank you.

841
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:06,300
Thank you, too.

842
01:16:07,060 --> 01:16:07,140
Yes.

843
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:10,260
The company is GHD.

844
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:11,520
That is doing the cleanup.

845
01:16:12,100 --> 01:16:13,080
I'm sorry, I didn't hear you.

846
01:16:13,180 --> 01:16:16,220
The company doing the cleanup is GHD.

847
01:16:17,940 --> 01:16:19,120
What does that stand for?

848
01:16:19,420 --> 01:16:21,100
I think it's just the name of their company.

849
01:16:21,420 --> 01:16:22,480
Is it from Toledo?

850
01:16:22,740 --> 01:16:23,540
Is it a Toledo company?

851
01:16:26,660 --> 01:16:27,640
Do you know the answer to the question?

852
01:16:29,060 --> 01:16:32,700
There are listed address is Rosemont Illinois.

853
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:37,960
I'm sorry I didn't hear him. Rosemont Illinois is their address, that's listed.

854
01:16:38,860 --> 01:16:43,960
And the company, Brent Industries, the company that hired this cleanup company.

855
01:16:44,300 --> 01:16:47,840
Okay, so there wasn't another, you didn't have your own.

856
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:51,360
When you first got the company, it wasn't, it was always bread.

857
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:55,160
The responsibility is on Brent to clean up their own mess, yes.

858
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:55,400
Okay.

859
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:57,540
And I thought that was included to me.

860
01:16:57,800 --> 01:16:57,860
Yep.

861
01:16:58,060 --> 01:17:00,740
And the Ohio EPA is overseeing that cleanup effort.

862
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:04,800
They're the governmental agency that is going to be holding them accountable.

863
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:11,380
See, all this information is already been, you know, as witnesses are telling you, how

864
01:17:11,380 --> 01:17:15,600
do people get this information, how they know where things stand is, you know, it's still

865
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:16,240
being fearful.

866
01:17:16,700 --> 01:17:20,500
I mean, anytime being fearful that any loud noise or the smell is something burning.

867
01:17:21,420 --> 01:17:21,840
Thank you.

868
01:17:21,900 --> 01:17:22,340
Thank you.

869
01:17:22,340 --> 01:17:22,960
Thanks for your testimony.

870
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:34,800
I have one more person on this list, and there is a sheet that's out, I think we might have another there too, but up next is Leonard Chandler.

871
01:17:38,420 --> 01:17:39,180
Good evening, everybody.

872
01:17:40,480 --> 01:17:44,680
I'm really at the list and this is my first council meeting coming to.

873
01:17:44,900 --> 01:17:48,960
And I'm kind of impressed because I didn't know this kind of stuff was happening in Toledo.

874
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:51,880
I don't really want to address the problem.

875
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:57,000
I came here because these people was going through some way more than what I came to talk about.

876
01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:02,060
So I got a letter here, my name, I lived in 1435 from my commercial street.

877
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:03,320
My name is Leonard Chandler.

878
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:10,160
My issue was trying to get my street paved for over 20 years, and I keep getting the run around

879
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:11,300
about when it's going to get paved.

880
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:16,360
It was posted, been on the list, two years ago, when I called, in case the leader of

881
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:22,700
finally got to me through the website to see what has actually been done, where I went from

882
01:18:22,700 --> 01:18:26,820
my whole street being paved to just one block. So when I'm not going like I say I'm not

883
01:18:26,820 --> 01:18:30,920
going to go deeper to my cause this issue is just way more than what I got. I got letters

884
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:38,220
from Hale's Crosse performance. There are on the end of Alabama and Matt Comber. I moved

885
01:18:38,220 --> 01:18:44,760
in my house in February 1989. I've been living there a whole older since then, paying taxes.

886
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:50,080
And I've been trying to get this street paved back when Tyrone Roddy was around.

887
01:18:50,220 --> 01:18:51,860
I had the mayor come over there.

888
01:18:52,100 --> 01:18:52,860
I was a city council.

889
01:18:52,940 --> 01:18:55,540
I was the chairman for our call, Neighborhood Coalition,

890
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:57,080
which we never got under.

891
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:01,760
So once I've seen that you guys only did one block of my company

892
01:19:02,480 --> 01:19:06,560
between Upton and that first street and just left everybody else hanging,

893
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,900
I got tired of calling and won't, they're not getting away.

894
01:19:09,980 --> 01:19:11,960
I want to come and speak to you guys in person.

895
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:20,340
So the president of Hell's Corps letters for all of y'all, so I want to give maybe you can pass these out to them because I don't have my glasses to read it.

896
01:19:20,780 --> 01:19:29,140
But my issue is nowhere near what these people are going to, so I'm not going to waste you guys tired when they got bigger issues than I got.

897
01:19:29,940 --> 01:19:31,260
We're grateful that you came down.

898
01:19:31,980 --> 01:19:34,980
I have a number listed here that you put down.

899
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:36,160
It's okay, we call you with you.

900
01:19:36,180 --> 01:19:37,340
Yes, I appreciate it.

901
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:37,820
Yeah, of course.

902
01:19:37,820 --> 01:19:42,260
We will try to get your answers and communicate that to you.

903
01:19:42,660 --> 01:19:43,080
Thank you.

904
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:44,460
Thank you.

905
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:48,580
Up next, Cindy Krauser.

906
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:04,780
Good evening. Thank you for the time this evening. I live at 5, 5, 4,

907
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:08,840
Shay, which is at the opposite end of where Chris lives.

908
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:17,040
When I first saw that Chris was saying he was having breathing issues, my husband and I both said,

909
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:27,000
well, we don't notice anything down here. Last night, I went out for a walk and met Chris for the first

910
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:30,840
So, tragedies do introduce you to your neighbors,

911
01:20:31,380 --> 01:20:33,060
unfortunately or unfortunately,

912
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:37,400
the smell was horrendous last night.

913
01:20:37,620 --> 01:20:40,940
You could taste it, you could smell it.

914
01:20:41,060 --> 01:20:44,640
I had to turn around and finish my walk.

915
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:46,320
But because of that walk,

916
01:20:46,620 --> 01:20:49,140
I got to know about what was happening tonight.

917
01:20:50,260 --> 01:20:53,980
So, my biggest point that I want to talk about

918
01:20:53,980 --> 01:20:55,300
is the communication.

919
01:20:55,300 --> 01:21:02,960
We've heard nothing from anybody, so the only way I knew about this was from meeting Chris.

920
01:21:03,660 --> 01:21:13,340
There's not been a door hanger, a piece of mail that came to tell us this is what we are doing.

921
01:21:14,500 --> 01:21:18,680
Should you experience seeing any of these issues, this is who you should call?

922
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:22,040
Some people know all that.

923
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:30,720
a lot of people don't, and so I just think that we need to be better about that.

924
01:21:31,340 --> 01:21:38,640
I think our little neighborhood there in South Toledo is we're experiencing ongoing issues

925
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:43,520
now this, and I think we just need to be paid attention.